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	Mandela Effect.
	Mandela Effect.
	No, it's Mandela Effect.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	And Sunday, February 26, 2017, this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media assassination episode 907.
	This is no agenda.
	Fixing pipes and programs without a checklist and broadcasting live from the darkest corners of the internet from the Airstream of Consciousness in Fayette Nam, Arkansas.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, we're in sunny and dry.
	I'm John C. DeVore.
	It's Crackbot and Buzzkill in the morning.
	Yeah, sunny and dry and about, what is it now?
	It's about 40 degrees here in the Airstream of Consciousness.
	It's cold.
	Well, it's kind of cold.
	It's very cold here in Vietnam.
	I think so.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It went down to 25 last night.
	It's insane.
	And I don't know what's worse.
	I don't know which is worse.
	Is it worse to be in the airstream of consciousness when it's 100 degrees outside and no air conditioning?
	Or is it worse to be here doing a show when it's 40 degrees and no heating?
	Well, you won't have to worry about sweating onto the gear.
	Yeah, I think I'd rather have heat, though.
	I have to turn it off because the blower just makes too much noise.
	It ruins the whole vibe.
	You say this, but I can never hear it.
	Because it's not on!
	Well, turn the blower on.
	I want to hear it.
	No, I'm not going to turn it on.
	I have to go to the other side.
	No, just trust me.
	It doesn't sound good.
	But it's been quite a challenging couple of days, 24 hours, whatever it was, getting up here.
	We've talked about this before, about checklists.
	Yes.
	Yeah, and did I make a checklist?
	Well, I'm guessing no.
	You would have brought the topic up.
	No, of course not.
	Friday morning, we hop in the truck.
	We're on the way up to Fayetteville, Arkansas.
	Mom's weekend.
	Tina, the keeper's daughter, goes to school here.
	So, you know, a perfect opportunity to take the Airstream out.
	A nice little road trip.
	See my buddy, dude named Ben, up here.
	And, you know, just chill out and maybe do a little bit of ham radio stuff.
	I don't know.
	See what's going on.
	So as we're driving, and we left Austin 78 degrees on Friday morning, driving up, and you see this go, oh, well, it's now 68 degrees.
	We're not even in Dallas.
	And about 30 minutes south of Dallas, we stop for a little gas, and I'm like, oh, crap.
	You're not going to believe it.
	But I left pretty much the studio bag at home.
	Ha, ha, ha!
	That's a good one.
	In other words, you left.
	Without a checklist, you forgot the whole thing.
	Well, I have a checklist for the bag, you see.
	Everything I needed was in the bag, but I left the bag.
	And I remember walking like, this feels wrong.
	Something's wrong.
	I can't quite put my finger on it, but I'm carrying stuff to the car.
	Something's wrong.
	This, of course, is a problem.
	Like, I'm not going to drive back three and a half hours.
	So we find a guitar center, and I was able to pick up pretty much everything I needed.
	I had the microphone with me, I had the laptops with me, so that was all cool.
	I just needed the audio interface and a mic stand, because, of course, the mic stand...
	I had the mic stand with me, but not the clamp that attaches to the table, because that belongs, as per the checklist, in the studio bag.
	So, okay.
	Small crisis averted.
	We continue.
	It's a long drive from Austin to Vietnam.
	It's about eight hours if you didn't stop.
	So we did about nine hours, nine and a half hours.
	And we get in.
	Nine o'clock.
	And of course, it's actually a pretty nice RV park up here.
	It's right on a golf course.
	Interestingly enough.
	And of course, you know, there's no one around and it's dark and pull up and now it's 25 degrees and I have to hook up the Airstream to water and to electricity and, you know, so, okay, so I'm doing that.
	I've got to get the metal stabilizers down, hook up the water and I'm like, okay, I really got to pee.
	So I go into the little bathroom, little commode.
	And as I'm tinkling away, I'm like, wow, I hear water running somewhere.
	And I can't quite figure it out.
	And I'm not liking this sound, so I'm trying to hurry up.
	I'm squeezing it out.
	And I'm like, come on, come on, come on, go, go, go.
	And as I turn around, there's water gushing, gushing from underneath the sink all the way to the floor.
	I mean, there's water just flooding the place.
	What did you do?
	Well, first let's talk...
	Why?
	Well, underneath the sink, there's an inline water filter.
	Now, this thing has been standing still for a couple of months, hasn't gone anywhere.
	It's supposed to have been winterized by the fine company who's supposed to be taking care of it and storing it.
	And this thing broke.
	And it's kind of like a tube.
	If you've ever seen these, you know, it's just probably about a foot long.
	And, you know, you hook it up one end, the water goes through, and it comes out reasonably clean.
	So this is broken.
	What kind of dirty water?
	Is this sink water?
	This is water to come out of the faucet.
	So in other words, the water that you're getting with your hookup, is it pee?
	No.
	How dirty is this water that needs massive filtering?
	Well, you have a filter at home.
	Everyone has a filter.
	It's just a regular filter.
	It's good water.
	I don't have a filter at home.
	You don't have a Brita?
	Yeah, I got a separate little device.
	I have a zero, by the way.
	Much better than the Brita.
	But that's a separate device.
	I can still drink water from the faucet.
	Hey, you know what?
	Don't focus on that.
	That's not the story.
	Okay.
	So, the problem is, when you have pressure in the system, because you hook it up to the outside, either I have to clamp this thing shut, or I have to fix this filter, or shunt it, or something, so we can't have water, because the water would just be gushing.
	Now, this is 930.
	I'm like, okay.
	I look underneath, and it's like the top has kind of popped off of this thing.
	He said, well, maybe I can MacGyver it.
	So I hammer it back in.
	I got my gaffer tape.
	Of course, you never go anywhere without gaffer tape.
	You have to have gaffer's tape wherever you go.
	Yep.
	And so I put it back in.
	And now we're not going to...
	So instead of testing with the water supply outside, I use the internal pump and the internal water because then if it goes wrong, I can just turn the pump off and then the water will stop gushing out.
	So Tina's manning the pump switch.
	I'm underneath.
	Now I'm really cold.
	We're tired.
	We want to shower.
	So how cold is it in the trailer?
	Well, the trailer, it's 25 degrees.
	The trailer hasn't warmed up yet.
	So the whole area is 25 degrees, and the trailer, it's cold inside.
	Well, it's starting to warm up.
	I turned the furnace on, I've got everything, but it's still cold.
	This is an operation.
	And somehow, so Tina turns it on, I'm like, it's holding!
	It looks like it's going to work!
	But apparently I had put the inline filter in reverse, and Oh, great.
	You know what happens when you do that and there's enough pressure on it?
	I can't imagine, but it can't be good.
	No, the top pops off, and then it's like a Play-Doh factory of carbon goo poops out.
	How'd you get the thing turned around?
	Well, there's an arrow that I didn't see.
	You can place it either direction.
	Anyway, so now I'm just looking to bypass this thing.
	Can't find anything.
	I said, screw it, we'll go to bed.
	I get up at 6 a.m., go to Home Depot.
	Actually, they open at 6, so I'm there at 6.05.
	Of course, they don't have any water inline filters, but I get a piping, and now I'm Mr.
	Plummer.
	Can you believe me?
	Me, Mr.
	Plummer.
	Come back, fix the thing.
	All right, we're good to go.
	Finally, turn on the pressure.
	Everything's working.
	And all of a sudden, I hear drip, drip, drip, and I hear pshhh.
	All the ceilings, all the sealants, all the washers, from in the shower, to the sink, to the kitchen, have all dried out, and so they're all leaking.
	And there's water spraying.
	There's water spraying, right?
	It's a disaster!
	I'm surprised you're still alive.
	And, you know, the workmanship of these airstreams is so pathetic.
	I know we've talked about it before.
	Americans are so sad when it comes...
	Donald Trump wants to rebuild our manufacturing.
	Well, if this is it, well, screw it then.
	We're doomed.
	And now I've got a real good look behind the scenes here, behind the shower and all.
	It's put together willy-nilly and things aren't...
	Spaced out.
	There's no attention to detail.
	It's really insulting when you think about what these things are going for.
	And the stature that they have.
	It's really, really pathetic.
	What if an old one from the 40s was built better?
	You know what's good?
	The chassis...
	Because it's got a reputation somewhere along the line.
	Yeah, but that's really for the chassis and for the aluminum shell itself.
	But the interior is no different than one of these formaldehyde FEMA things that are parked everywhere around me.
	It's all the same bullcrap inside.
	I reiterate.
	I wonder if the fit and finish and all the details and the...
	The way these were put together in the 40s was better.
	If you took one apart, then there's a new one.
	Oh, I'm sure.
	I'm sure they had actual piping, not just plastic.
	You're right, probably.
	Everything was better in the 40s.
	I mean, we are making plastic crap.
	Looks nice.
	Anyway, and then of course I had to spend the whole Saturday afternoon remembering how to configure the device that I use currently, which is another mind meld.
	So it's been...
	What device are you using for your...
	You're talking your ADD converter for the mic?
	Yeah, this is a universal audio device.
	And it has, you know, there's ways to do the routing.
	It's called flex routing.
	Oh, it's so simple.
	Well, no.
	You always have to wrap your head around, how are they trying to do this?
	How are they trying to make internal...
	It's too deep to even attempt to explain it, but...
	Anyway, so...
	So, yeah!
	Yeah!
	Here we are!
	I've had plenty of time to prep.
	And now it's just, you know, I'm in the Airstream.
	We've got our streams ready.
	Everything's rolling.
	And the heat is off, and I'm gradually getting cold.
	Hmm.
	Hmm.
	Well, as long as you don't freeze.
	No.
	I did get a lot of good stuff as I was...
	Oh, okay.
	Well, why don't you start off with one of your best good stuff and see if I got anything better.
	Well, um...
	Let's summarize the news.
	Okay.
	There was a speech.
	Trump gave a speech.
	Yeah, this is CPAC, actually.
	You know what?
	Before we summarize, I have three...
	He didn't even go last year.
	They hated him last year.
	Correct.
	He went in 2013.
	I actually pulled a clip, which is a little too soon to play it right now on the show, but I thought maybe I'd just give you a...
	Well, okay.
	Here's...
	I'm going to play for you...
	Here we go.
	Let's see.
	Steve Brannan.
	And...
	Bannon.
	Bannon?
	Let's see.
	Bannon.
	Just a short little blip.
	You said Brannon.
	I'm saying Bannon.
	We need a nickname for him.
	I know.
	He's kind of a...
	What is his face?
	He's like a tomato face.
	A little bit.
	He's got rosacea or something.
	Rosacea, yeah.
	Something like that.
	Bad Boy Brandon, here we go.
	It's not only not going to get better, it's going to get worse every day in the media.
	And here's why.
	By the way, the internal logic makes sense.
	They're corporatist, globalist media that are adamantly opposed, adamantly opposed...
	To an economic nationalist agenda like Donald Trump has.
	Okay, so that's Brandon on the media.
	And he nails it.
	That's absolutely the case.
	Yeah, here is Faraj, who dropped by to speak, our buddy there from the UK. I always believed that we should govern our own country.
	I always believed we should be free to reach out and make our own deals with our real friends in the world.
	And it's funny, our real friends in the world speak English Have common law and stand by us in times of crisis.
	I like that.
	They speak English.
	If you don't speak English, you're not our friend.
	You're Irish.
	Now, Trump had a couple of interesting things to say.
	Here's a short one about global.
	I just say this is no to globalism, which if anyone saw any clips, you probably saw or heard this one.
	Global cooperation.
	Dealing with other countries, getting along with other countries is good.
	It's very important.
	But there is no such thing as a global anthem, a global currency, or a global flag.
	This is the United States of America that I'm representing.
	I'm not representing the globe.
	I'm representing your country.
	Yeah, that's the one thing that we always take exception with.
	Like, he's the leader of the free world!
	No.
	No.
	So, I like that.
	Now, here is...
	I was yelling, yelling at President Trump when he was saying this.
	And I understand from a populist nationalist point of view why you position something like this as he does.
	But it is so incredibly wrong.
	And what an opportunity is missed.
	Maybe not on this crowd, the CPAC crowd.
	But maybe there is.
	About...
	The amendments and what they mean.
	And this is so wrong.
	I'm going to play.
	It's only 40 seconds.
	I'll play it and then I'll tell you why this is so wrong.
	Just to conclude, I mean, it's a very sensitive topic.
	And they get upset when we expose their false stories.
	They say that we can't criticize their dishonest coverage because of the First Amendment.
	You know, they always bring up the First Amendment.
	And I love the First Amendment.
	Nobody loves it better than me.
	Nobody.
	Who uses it more than I do?
	He's already wrong.
	But the First Amendment gives all of us, it gives it to me, it gives it to you, it gives it to all Americans, the right to speak our minds freely.
	No!
	It gives you the right and me the right to criticize fake news and criticize it strongly.
	No, no, no.
	This makes me so mad.
	Particularly if you're pontificating about the First Amendment.
	Which reads, Congress shall make no law.
	The First Amendment does not give you, Mr.
	President, or anybody any right.
	It protects the right we already have.
	And I'm very disappointed in this.
	He needs to talk to that guy who wrote the book about the Twelfth Amendment, the Ninth Amendment, this Amendment guy.
	It was an Indian, which I think is...
	Oh, yeah.
	That's...
	That book, Everything You Didn't Know About the Constitution.
	Right, right.
	Yeah, well...
	It pisses me off.
	It's a misconception the way he...
	Yes.
	But it was...
	It would be so much more powerful.
	It's not granting us a right.
	It's a right we already have.
	Yes.
	And the First Amendment's about not abridging it.
	But then to say, I use it all the time.
	You can't use it.
	No, you can't use it.
	It's not yours to use.
	It is a restriction on the federal government.
	And what a missed opportunity.
	And particularly if you're trying to explain how important it is, explain what it is.
	If he actually explained it just the simple way you just did right now, let alone the way that expert loves to do, and actually explained to people what it meant, in reality, I think he'd score points.
	I think so, too.
	But this is, you know, points off.
	Big points off.
	I agree.
	Alright, so this of course led us down the famous clip now about fake news, and I went back and checked, and as far as I can tell, he's correct, and maybe it was a setup.
	It's something Obama does, which is Say something consistently, then have people respond to it, and then say, oh no, I've always said it this way.
	I never said it the way you're saying it.
	I'm saying it the way I've always said it.
	It's technical language, technicalities, and as far as I can tell, he's right.
	And I want you all to know that we are fighting the fake news.
	It's fake, phony, fake.
	I love that.
	I had to ISO that.
	That's just too good.
	Phony, phony, phony.
	A few days ago, I called the fake news the enemy of the people.
	And they are.
	They are the enemy of the people.
	Because they have no sources.
	They just make them up when there are none.
	They're very dishonest people.
	In fact, in covering my comments, the dishonest media did not explain.
	I called the fake news the enemy of the people.
	The fake news.
	They dropped off the word fake.
	And all of a sudden, the story became the media is the enemy.
	They take the word fake out.
	And now I'm saying, oh no, this is no good.
	But...
	That's the way they are.
	So I'm not against the media.
	I'm not against the press.
	I don't mind bad stories if I deserve them.
	And I love good stories, but we won't talk.
	I don't get too many of them.
	But I am only against the fake...
	Sorry.
	You know, it's when he's speaking like this, which is this off-the-cuff, it is performance art in some way.
	Oh, totally.
	It's always got entertainment elements throughout.
	There was a moment or two where it just cracked me up.
	Yeah, he says funny stuff.
	Absolutely.
	He says funny stuff just offhandedly.
	It's really nice.
	I am only against the fake news, media, or press.
	Fake.
	Fake.
	They have to leave that word.
	I'm against the people that make up stories and make up sources.
	They shouldn't be allowed to use sources.
	Unless they use somebody's name.
	Let their name be put out there.
	Let their name be put out.
	Now, before we move on to fake news, I just want to do a quick...
	And by the way, I also wanted to interrupt you and mention that the idea of fake news was not Trump's invention.
	Well, I'm going to take us down that road.
	I have all the clips for you.
	Okay, I'm all ears.
	Well, let's do it now then.
	What I have, we can do it later, it's not a doubt.
	I have a piece from Trump from 2013.
	It's exactly the same.
	He says exactly the same things, right down to make America great again.
	If anyone was paying attention, they could have heard...
	I mean, you can go back to 96 and Trump is saying the same things.
	About China.
	About our country being in trouble.
	All of that stuff.
	Here's a quick little...
	Quick little montage of a few times our President Obama spoke about fake news.
	In this case, you may recall his war, his jihad against Fox News.
	You've talked to somebody who said, well, I don't know, I was watching Fox News and they said this is horrible.
	Good, affordable health care might seem like a fanged threat to the freedom of the American people on Fox News.
	Fox News, on a regular basis, it is a constant menu.
	they will find like folks who make me mad.
	Look, if I watched Fox News, I wouldn't vote for me.
	Look, if I watched Fox News, I wouldn't vote for me either.
	Right.
	Because, you know, you've got this screen, this funhouse mirror through which people are receiving information.
	Now, these are just clips, but I also dug up an actual report, a package, a package from 2009 from CBS, CIABS.
	And who's the pixie girl who went on to work for Yahoo?
	What's her name?
	The pixie girl who went on to work for Yahoo.
	Yeah, the news girl who got Sarah Palin all crazy.
	Oh, you're talking about Katie Couric?
	Katie Couric, thank you.
	Here's a package, and listen to the similarities between 2009, President Obama calling out Fox News as fake and lame and wrong and crazy to watch it, and today's messaging about Trump.
	Politicians and the media have long had a contentious relationship.
	It's part of the American system.
	But we've never seen anything quite as intense as the feud between President Obama and the Fox News Channel.
	The Obama White House is firing back, charging that Fox News is different from all other news.
	That Fox News often operates almost as either the research arm or the communications arm of the Republican Party.
	If media is operating basically as a talk radio format, then that's one thing.
	And if it's operating as a news outlet, then that's another.
	And the White House has gone beyond words.
	Last September 20th, the president went on every Sunday news show except Chris Wallace's show on Fox.
	And on Thursday, the Treasury Department tried to exclude Fox News from pool coverage of interviews with one of its key officials.
	It backed down after strong protests from the press.
	All the networks said, that's it.
	You've crossed the line.
	Tension between presidents and the press is as old as the republic.
	FDR was so incensed by the war reporting of one New York Daily News correspondent, he tried to present him with an iron cross from Nazi Germany.
	I didn't know that.
	Can you imagine Trump doing that?
	Yeah!
	Straight from my playbook!
	John Kennedy tried to get New York Timesman David Halberstam pulled into Vietnam.
	And Vice President Spiro Agnew's assaults on the network press are legendary.
	We have more than our share of the nattering nabobs of negativism.
	Do you remember?
	I had heard that quote, and I never knew where it came from.
	And also, the way I heard it was, the nattering...
	That's me, I remember that one.
	That's Agnew, yeah.
	Was that the Washington Correspondents Dinner?
	The White House Correspondents Dinner, I think?
	No!
	That was just Sparrow Agnew shooting his mouth off.
	Yeah, but he was dressed up in, I was looking at the video, he was dressed up in white, and it was a white suit, black tie.
	I don't think it was a Correspondents Dinner, but it was some formal event.
	But I'd always heard it as the nattering naysayers of negativity, and the actual quote is...
	Oh no, it's Nabobs.
	Let me hear it again.
	Chair of the nattering nabobs of negativism.
	The nattering nabobs of negativism.
	Negativism.
	It's another N-word.
	N-word.
	Now the White House is arguing that the Fox News Network is not a real news organization at all.
	And that has brought some mainstream media voices...
	Do you remember that?
	When it was, ah, it's not even real?
	I remember all this.
	...to its defense.
	Here's ABC's Jay Tapper at a recent White House briefing.
	He was putting it in a context where it sounded like that was evidence of them not being a news organization.
	So why is the White House out to delegitimize Fox?
	Not because it has opinions, but because its opinion voices are so hostile to Mr.
	Obama and because Fox News is, as it's been for a decade, by far the most watched of the cable news networks.
	Including a fair chunk of Democrats and Independents.
	And by the way, since Mr.
	Obama has been president, Fox's ratings overall have increased 13% actually just since the summer.
	So if Fox is feeling any pain from the White House's stance, Casey, it is crying all the way to the bank.
	Yeah, there you go.
	So I just thought that was very interesting to hear the package.
	Well, that's because what you were hearing was a sense of reality as opposed to what we're being fed today.
	In fact, let's go to a good example of that.
	Exact same thing, only on the other side.
	This is the Associated Press.
	Refuses to...
	They...
	What's the guy?
	Sweaty Sean.
	Sweaty Sean Spicer had put together what they call a gaggle, a small group of people that were based on some parts of the press group.
	Can I stop you there for one moment?
	Just for one second?
	Yeah.
	I want to remind everyone that on this program, based upon sources we had...
	I told you that the Trump White House, the Trump administration, was going to review every month all media accreditation and make changes as appropriate.
	Exactly one month, and there it is.
	Just saying.
	So they did not allow CNN, the New York Times, and the Los Angeles Times, among maybe others, Politico and BuzzFeed.
	Many others.
	Michio.
	Mevio is another one, and BuzzFeed.
	We can't have Mevio there.
	Actually, there were like 3,000.
	So the Associated Press made a fuss, and I think one other outlet, and they refused to go, even though they were invited.
	And so I've got to, this is an example, this is the head of the Associated Press executive editor, I think, or something like that, of the Associated Press.
	There's a woman on PBS and she comes on and she tries to explain why they didn't go on and she never answers the simple question that Judy has, but let's play part one and then I'll discuss this a little bit and then you can see that your report, which was very complete, because it was based on the actual happenings in 2009 as opposed to what people are saying now.
	There's been much reaction late today to the decision by the White House to ban some news media outlets from the briefing in the press secretary's office.
	It's often called a gaggle.
	Two prominent organizations, the Associated Press and Time Magazine, chose to boycott attending in solidarity with those news organizations.
	Sally Busby is the executive editor and senior vice president of the AP, and she joins Now, Sally, thank you for being here.
	Why did the AP not attend that briefing?
	You were not shut out.
	We think that the public deserves as much access to the president and other governing officials as possible.
	When we find ourselves in a situation where national news organizations seem to be being deliberately excluded, we think that's dangerous territory.
	We think that the public needs to get as much access as possible.
	Then why didn't you go?
	Well, hold on one second.
	Hold on one second.
	Just back it up.
	This is a gaggle.
	Usually this takes place on Air Force One, and there'll be a little informal thing.
	It's no video.
	Excuse me.
	It's only the press corps that's there, and this is a pool event, which means everybody gets the exact same data, media, which in this case is only audio.
	They don't get to ask a question.
	Before you play part two, I have a recording of the event when this came up.
	Okay, but before we do...
	Yeah, I want you to play it before I play my part two.
	First of all, I want to mention that she, her assertion that Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I do want to mention one thing, is that Obama did the exact same thing with his little grouping he did.
	That's right.
	Only he did it not as a gaggle, but some sort of a private meeting, if you remember.
	I sure do.
	This was about a year and a half ago, remember?
	I sure do.
	I sure do.
	It was like, let's say we're going to have a little private meeting.
	It was only going to be select people from the New York, all his buddies from the New York Times, Washington, WAPO. WAPO, WAPO, WAPO, WAPO. And again, completely...
	Left out everybody else and just had this little thing and nobody bitched about it.
	Well, the media actually bitched about it because they didn't get to go into it.
	But, okay, play your little clip.
	Yeah, so important here is that many organizations, and maybe we should just point out that everyone's talking about the free press.
	Well, the Constitution doesn't talk about a free press, which in my mind would mean it's free, but I don't have to pay for it, which a lot of the press out there today is free.
	Bloggers.
	Bloggers, yes.
	The Constitution speaks of freedom of the press, which, in my constitutional analysis, means they can write whatever they want to write, however they see it.
	It doesn't mean they get exclusive access, because not everybody can have exclusive access.
	We don't get an invite.
	I have questions.
	I'm pretty sure that if I put in my notice and say, hey, we'd like to beat the gaggle thing, I go, pff, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
	That's exactly what it would sound like.
	Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
	Pretty much.
	And, you know, so, also, journalists, and you can back me up on this, are not free to write whatever they want.
	Bloggers, yeah, but not journalists.
	No, they have to go through the editor, the editor might have to talk to the publisher, the publisher might have to talk to the owner.
	Usually the editor never talks to the publisher, except in other meetings, but it's not going to be about your article.
	But you do have to get the article approved or you have to run it by somebody.
	It's not like being...
	If you're a freelancer not working for the paper and you've got some great thing you wrote, you say, hey, look at this, you want to run it?
	Yeah, I'll take it.
	Exactly.
	But that's not the way it works at the paper itself.
	So here's a recording which showed up on...
	A lot of meetings.
	A lot of meetings.
	Since this was a pool report, I knew where to get it.
	I just went to C-SPAN and yes, there it was.
	And just for kicks, I left the...
	The C-SPAN lady tag at the end, because she had a nice little editorial, which is pretty uncommon for C-SPAN. No, I think it's interesting.
	I think that we have shown an abundance of accessibility.
	We've brought more reporters into this process, and the idea that every time that every single person can't get their question answered to fit in a room that we're excluding people, we've actually gone above and beyond with making ourselves, our team, and our briefing room more accessible than probably any prior administration.
	So I think you can take that to the bank.
	Why?
	Because, Cecilia, there's 3,000 people that are credentialed to come in here.
	Oh, no, there's not six.
	There's actually...
	No, actually, that is false.
	To say that there are six, maybe six that reached out to you, but that is not...
	No, no, hold on.
	I understand that.
	There are way more than six that wanted to come in.
	We started with the pool, and then we expanded it.
	So, you know, I get it, but why?
	I can ask, you know, there are plenty that want to come in at all times for every event.
	We do what we can to be accessible.
	And if there's a problem with that, you know, I understand it.
	But we do what we can to accommodate the press.
	I think we've gone above and beyond.
	What are you doing?
	I don't know.
	I hear beeping.
	Not doing anything.
	Oh, it sounded like you were playing something.
	No, I was like, it was some random beeping.
	I thought that was coming from your clip.
	No, well, it must be.
	It comes to accessibility and openness and getting folks to, you know, our officials, our team.
	And so, you know, respectfully, I disagree with the premise of the question.
	Thank you.
	That audio was recorded by the White House Pool, a group of news outlets that, under a longstanding agreement, share material with all media colleagues, regardless of who was physically present.
	After the briefing, the White House Correspondents Association released a statement saying the WHCA board is protesting strongly against how today's gaggle is being handled by the White House.
	The board will be discussing this further with the White House staff.
	This bit lasts about 20 minutes.
	Yeah.
	And by the way, since it's a pool that's pooling...
	Everybody gets the same pool.
	So what difference does it make?
	Why do you have to be there?
	What do you have to be inside when you can get the feed?
	Which is the way I feel.
	Like, I don't need to go sit in the gaggle.
	I just got it off C-SPAN the way it's supposed to work.
	I mean, if you're trying to get a date with some reporter for some other operation, I mean, that's a possibility.
	Well, Shep Smith is still looking for a job.
	He's continuing to jump on the report, as you pointed out, astutely.
	That he's thinking, oh crap, I gotta get out of this Fox News.
	I need a new gig.
	gig.
	Everyone's moving around.
	Yeah, he figures he can make a jump and get some dough.
	Yeah, yeah, well, I'm not so sure.
	Well, here he is.
	For the record, fake news refers to stories that are created, often by entities pretending to be news organizations, solely to draw clicks and views and are based on nothing of substance.
	In short, fake news is made-up nonsense delivered for financial gain.
	CNN's reporting was not fake news.
	Fake news.
	Its journalists follow the same standards to which other news organizations, Fox News adhere senior administration officials regularly speak without attribution so that the public can be informed of what our government is doing off the record just as CNN reports previous sent officials to speak off the record against the Russia Trump campaign reporting no okay Shep still
	And by the way, it's a known fact that very often these so-called off-the-record comments, which are done many times to move the reporting into a certain direction to kind of buffalo the reporters, it's used to manipulate the media.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	And they're so pissed that they're not a part of the manipulation.
	Damn it!
	It was our turn to get manipulated.
	All right, so we have the Associated Press woman and she's continuing to talk with Judy with no real reason for not going to this thing except to, you know, sisters unite or whatever.
	And so this is the second part of it.
	Deliberately excluded.
	We think that's dangerous territory.
	Is this White House, are these behaviors, rules different from previous White House rules?
	There's always physical limitations on access.
	There's always compromises that we make and sort of concessions that are made for physical limitations and other things.
	I think when you get to the point where there are news organizations that seem to be being deliberately excluded, I think that's different.
	We felt today was different.
	So that hasn't happened before to your knowledge?
	I can't speak for all of history.
	I think in the access fight that we've been engaged in for many decades, this felt very different to us today.
	Oh yes, it felt different.
	There it is.
	That's the key.
	Hold on.
	It felt different.
	It may have happened before, but it felt very different.
	Yes, because instead of blocking Fox, they were blocking the left-wing media.
	Listen to that again.
	I mean, yeah, it felt different to you.
	I want to hear her say that again.
	All of history.
	I think in the access fight that we've been engaged in for many decades, this felt very different to us today.
	Yes, because it was about us.
	And we're the good guys.
	We're the good guys.
	You can't have that.
	I found it very disingenuous.
	All of her remarks.
	Well, certainly in light of the...
	In light of what happened in 2009, yes.
	Exactly the same.
	It was the same.
	And this sort of thing, which is like, oh, it's never been this bad.
	So CBS has been trying to do...
	Almost everything you get from them, and only clips mostly, are these hit pieces.
	But...
	They've been trying to do this thing on...
	I'm trying to find the clip.
	Are you moving away from the fake news?
	No, no.
	This is still part of it.
	Okay.
	Priebus?
	No?
	Let's see.
	This is...
	Bannon.
	Bannon hit piece.
	That must be it.
	No, the Bannon hit piece is after the Bannon hit piece comes out.
	Is there a part two of the Bannon hit piece?
	Trump gotchas by CBS. I'm just trying to find the CBS clips.
	That's it.
	You got it.
	Good find.
	Now, here's the deal.
	Now...
	Again, we're seeing nothing new with any of this.
	And we're seeing actually nothing new with what Trump's trying to do.
	All we're seeing is it's just different actors.
	And the other side, the losing side, is very irked.
	And they're going to stay that way.
	So now listen to this piece, which is, as you know, CBS tried to do this, and we had it on the show a couple times.
	They've been trying to do fact check.
	Oh, yes.
	And CBS News has looked at what he said, and he said there was 45 guys that were shot, and it turns out to only be 44.
	Another fact check.
	I mean, this has been going nowhere.
	So they're trying to twist it a little bit more.
	And here's another example.
	And this time I think somebody in the front office says, hey, don't do that because this isn't working out because you're actually making Obama look worse than Trump.
	Margaret Brennan's joining us at the White House.
	Margaret, there was some confusion today on immigration.
	The president said one thing and then his homeland security secretary rushed out and said another.
	Yes, well the president sent his secretaries of state and homeland security south of the border to reassure officials there that illegal immigrants will be treated humanely when they're deported from the U.S. to Mexico.
	But the president today caused some confusion himself when he suggested using the U.S. military to expel them.
	Oh, yeah.
	We're getting really bad dudes out of this country.
	Dudes.
	And at a rate that nobody's ever seen before.
	And they're the bad ones.
	Bad hombres.
	And it's a military operation.
	No.
	Repeat, no use of military force in immigration operations.
	None.
	The White House later tried to clarify, saying the president meant military operation as an adjective to describe what they say is an efficient rate of deportation.
	Margaret Brennan for us tonight.
	Margaret, thank you.
	Well, the president's boasting got the better of him today.
	He said the US is deporting drug dealers and gang members, quote, for the first time.
	And as you heard, he said they're being deported at a rate nobody has ever seen before.
	Well, for the record, our research department spoke to an official at the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency.
	In January of last year, there were 17,649 deportations.
	Last month, it was 1,000 fewer.
	And last year, 58% had been convicted of serious crimes, such as drug dealing.
	So, this is their example.
	There was 1,000 less that Trump did, which means there was 1,000 more that Obama did.
	And, to make it worse for Obama, they said there was 58%, only 58% of his deportees were convicted of anything.
	That means 42% of these people were innocent.
	They didn't do anything, but they got kicked out of the country by Obama.
	Yeah, that's okay.
	Right?
	Yeah, right, right.
	I guess that's okay.
	So Obama's kicked more people out and obviously kicked out more families than Trump, but yet we hear this squawking.
	So how does this benefit anybody, this CBS report, this fact-check bullcrap?
	Trump's a liar.
	Fact-check false.
	It only benefits them.
	People watch for the crazy.
	People watch for the crazy.
	Actor Robert Davi.
	You probably don't recognize the name.
	If you saw him, you'd recognize him.
	He's a character actor.
	Villain.
	Villain in James Bond.
	I know his name.
	I don't know what he looks like to my brain, but if I saw him, I wouldn't know what he looks like, but I wouldn't know his name.
	Kind of one of those bulbous kind of faces.
	A little bit.
	Big head.
	Okay.
	Big contours.
	And I'm trying to limit my Tucker Carlson stuff.
	In fact, I'm cutting Tucker out of most clips because it's guests who are interested.
	Yeah.
	Well, unfortunately, he has great guests, and I'm really trying to get him out of it.
	So he's not in most of this.
	Good.
	And he had...
	A novel idea for the press corps.
	And even though he kind of fumbles around explaining the scenario, what he's talking about is, here's how I think it should work when Sweaty Sean does the White House press briefings.
	And this is how he should address the individuals who are there to ask questions on behalf of the mainstream media.
	Talk about the media for a second, you know?
	This media thing, I think, and we hear all the brouhaha of the media.
	I have an idea for the administration and all of everyone.
	Who's the parent company of CNN? I can't get into that.
	But there is a parent company, yeah.
	I thought that was interesting.
	That's why I left it in.
	That he says, I can't get into that.
	Why can't he get into that?
	Is that not done?
	Is that something you don't do?
	Done all the time.
	I don't see why he said, I can't get into that.
	That was very popular.
	Maybe he doesn't know who the parent company is.
	That's my guess.
	No, he knows.
	He knows.
	Now, there's some other reason.
	I think he might not.
	You'll hear it.
	Oh, I know what it is.
	Yeah, I think it's this.
	I'm thinking.
	This is just a guess, but I think this is what it would be.
	These companies, which is really what he should be talking about, I think they collude.
	I think they say, look, you don't bitch about us.
	Don't bring it to General Electric when you talk about NBC. Don't bring it, because we've got jet engines to sell.
	If you don't bring it, you say something to us, then we're going to talk about the Disneyland deaths.
	Well, you've nailed it.
	You've nailed it.
	Talk about the media for a second, you know?
	This media thing, I think, and we hear all the brouhaha of the media.
	I have an idea for the administration and all of everyone.
	Who's the parent company of CNN? I can't get into that.
	But there is a parent company, yes.
	There is a parent.
	May I say it?
	Yeah, of course.
	Time Warner.
	Yeah.
	So what if, at the things, when they have things, they go, Time Warner, parent company of CNN, Jim Acosta.
	Go!
	Go, Jim!
	How about if they did that?
	They did Universal, Comcast, NBC, MSNBC, Joe Scarborough.
	Go, Joe!
	Now, all of a sudden, because if the president is held accountable...
	And he's the main guy.
	Shouldn't those companies be held accountable?
	And maybe they'll think twice about how they're distorting news.
	I like that idea.
	That's a great idea.
	Comcast, Universal, GE, MSNBC, CNBC, NBC News.
	Go Joe Scarborough!
	We should be doing that.
	Well, it's kind of long-winded.
	Yeah, but it makes it clear.
	I think most of our guys are pretty much up on most of this.
	It makes it pretty clear.
	That was good.
	Yeah, okay.
	Let's see.
	All right.
	I got some other stuff.
	I got the...
	Let's play.
	I have a different kind of a PBS. I got about five different reports.
	I got RT. I got...
	CBS, and I got PBS. PBS probably did, backed off the best, and did the best job on the CPAC thing with Trump.
	Maybe we should explain briefly what CPAC is, because a lot of people...
	Conservative...
	Political Action Committee, I think.
	Yes.
	And they have a...
	It's a big operation.
	It's not necessarily the Republican Party, correct?
	It's just these people who...
	It's for conservatives, but it's always Republicans.
	I mean, I've never seen any Democrats.
	Well, libertarians?
	Well, yeah, but they're usually Republicans, too.
	I would say they used to be dominated by the libertarians.
	I've always thought that they were annoyed by the libertarians because they do these straw polls on who should be president.
	Ron Paul would always win.
	The libertarians are always in there giving their libertarian speeches.
	Last year, they kind of softened it a little bit.
	And then this year, there's no libertarians at all.
	Ron Paul didn't speak.
	Rand Paul didn't speak.
	Nobody spoke.
	Here, check this out.
	Except the Trumpites.
	Bill the Burger Illuminati.
	Bill the Burger Illuminati.
	Go, Mika.
	Just practice.
	The Trump...
	Sorry.
	So let's listen to the Trump at CPAC. There's a two-parter on PBS. It's long, but I think it really covered it well without...
	There was, I think, a subtle attempt to maybe embarrass, you know, let Trump embarrass himself.
	Let him say these crazy things.
	And the people in the know, in other words, the Trump haters will spot that as for what it is.
	And the Trump-ites will just not think twice about it because it's just Trump.
	The spotlight was on President Trump today as he took the stage at the annual conservative political action conference outside Washington.
	He touted his agenda and called some news outlets the enemy of the people.
	That's before a crowd of activists who have at times viewed him with a skeptical eye.
	John Yang reports from the conference.
	Our victory.
	It should be Burlington Northern, Archer, Daniel Midlands, go.
	The conference.
	Our victory.
	Our victory.
	It was a victory and a win for conservative values.
	President Trump moved today to put his brand on the conservative movement, stressing his populist nationalist vision of America first.
	There is no such thing as a global anthem, a global currency, or a global flag.
	This is the United States of America that I'm representing.
	I'm not representing the globe.
	I'm representing your country.
	Speaking at the Conservative Political Action Conference, or CPAC, in a packed hotel ballroom, the president said he's transforming the Republican Party.
	The GOP will be, from now on, The party, also, of the American worker.
	If you look at how much bigger our party has gotten during this cycle, millions and millions of people were joining.
	I won't say it was because of me, but it was.
	Mr.
	Trump told the enthusiastic crowd he would soon sign a new temporary travel ban, a signature campaign pledge, to replace the executive order the federal courts put on hold.
	And in a matter of days, we will be taking brand new action to protect our people and keep America safe.
	You will see the action.
	I will never ever apologize for protecting the safety and security of the American people.
	I won't do it.
	While some conference attendees said they had reservations about another key Trump policy position, opposition to multilateral trade deals, it doesn't dampen their enthusiasm for the president.
	Everything he said, I agree with, you know, with the exception of maybe some of the trade stuff.
	So, you know, I can't get 100 percent from him, can't get 100 percent from anyone.
	But overall, I was very pleased.
	Others said Mr.
	Trump's election is redefining the Republican Party.
	I think there's a lot of people that have the conservative values.
	I mean, they just haven't come out of the closet.
	You know, they were kind of keeping low before, but there's a lot of people I've talked to that said they've come out since Trump won.
	People have come out.
	Of the closet.
	Yeah, I guess.
	I found that the switch, the way, the malleability of the Republicans, I think the Democrats would be the same way.
	To be the party of the...
	This has got to freak the Democrats out, by the way.
	That the Republicans want to be, or at least Trumpites want to be, the party of the working man.
	Just a large voting ball.
	When you're ready, I have a piece from the DNC that has to be heard to believe.
	Do you want me to play part two of this?
	Yeah, yeah.
	And then you can play that?
	Yeah, let's do it, because that's good.
	The president also devoted much of today's speech to a favorite topic, lambasting what he calls the fake media.
	I'm against the people that make up stories and make up sources.
	They shouldn't be allowed to use sources unless they use somebody's name.
	What is the...
	Typical policy, John.
	You, of course, have been a journalist all your life.
	What is the policy of unnamed sources?
	It's okay.
	Some people you can't name.
	They're like your secret source.
	There's some guys in the government who's killing his guts to you.
	That's exactly what you want.
	Right.
	The problem is, there's no rule.
	Yeah, it's bullcrap.
	You can use these sources.
	You say, a government source told me blah, blah, blah.
	Right.
	And then you can maybe balance that a little bit if you want to or you don't have to.
	Generally speaking, when you do that, it's because you've got something scandalous to report.
	Right.
	And the guy will get in trouble if he finds out about it.
	And that's why they monitor these guys so much.
	It appears to me these days, it's just everything is an anonymous source.
	Just about all reports.
	They're not pressed to go on the record anymore.
	Let's put it that way.
	Well, that started a while ago.
	I think that started probably during Bush.
	I'm sure it did.
	I think it's slightly out of control because nobody's saying anything.
	They just haven't got the guts to do it.
	But they've also been told not to say anything.
	And there's all these new rules at the federal level that they don't allow you to talk to the press at all.
	You can't even have lunch with them.
	Right.
	Or you're violating some rule, which I think is what Trump is bitching about because all these people are rule violators or they wouldn't be getting all this information.
	The danger is, especially with some of these outlets that are very biased, and I would put CNN in that category for sure, you could make it all up.
	And in fact, there's been examples.
	Or your sources who are not held accountable could be making it up.
	Or both, which doesn't make sense.
	But one or the other.
	But you can be making, somebody could be making this up.
	It could be taking, and also a lot of these sources are basing their information on gossip and rumors, which are generally not reliable.
	But these operations, I mean, the Washington Post is a good example.
	I think Janet Cook, you can look her up.
	She's making stories up.
	Years ago.
	I think she won a Pulitzer Prize.
	She was a black reporter.
	She was a black reporter and she wrote about all some stuff and she was just making it up.
	So the New York Times or the Washington Post was busted for that.
	The New York Times had this guy.
	There's a black male who was making stuff up.
	Making up all these stories as a big hero.
	How about the weapons of mass destruction?
	That was also made up and passed on to a reporter who used it as an anonymous source, and that eventually, you can argue, led us into Iraq.
	Right, that was also a New York Times reporter.
	Yes.
	And so the New York Times and the Washington Post have lots of, have a background of this sort of thing, and so you have to wonder how their reliability works.
	But I think all the newspapers have, you know, generally speaking, had their route or bouts with a phony.
	Some more wild than others, but generally speaking, they don't win a Pulitzer, which is an embarrassment.
	Because where's your editors?
	Is anyone doing any work over there?
	Where's the fact checking?
	So you can have this...
	Yes, if you're writing for a newspaper, you can be a complete fake.
	You can fake stories very easily.
	But using anonymous sources, if you're a good reporter...
	You vet them.
	You double check.
	You just don't run crazy with this stuff.
	And I think they're running crazy with a lot of these stories because some of them turn out not to be anywhere near true.
	Okay.
	But again, now here's a good example.
	If anybody wants to watch the series Berlin Station.
	Yeah, which I still haven't seen.
	You keep telling me to watch that.
	In Berlin Station, there's an episode where this Chinese general who is living in Berlin, he's stuck out of the country and he's now a spook, or he's not a spook, he's an informant.
	Somehow somebody finds out about it and they run a news story on it.
	And they run it at a front page of one of the top newspapers.
	The CIA station guys find out that the news story is going to run in like five hours.
	They go kidnap the guy, put him on a plane and drop him off in Beijing just as the news story comes out.
	And the Chinese are shown on their news network saying we've got the general.
	He was hiding in an apartment in Beijing because that was part of the deal to turn him back over.
	Right.
	Even though he was supposed to be kept in the country outside of China because they're going to execute him now.
	And they said, well, that's the way it goes.
	And meanwhile, the newspaper comes out saying he's in Berlin and there's the news on the TV showing that he's in Beijing.
	Right.
	Right.
	Quite dark.
	It's very...
	It's fun to watch.
	It's not a fast-moving shoot-em-up.
	It's on the list.
	It's just good.
	Back to PBS's second part of the report from CPAC. The president also devoted much of today's speech to a favorite topic, lambasting what he calls the fake media.
	I'm against the people that make up stories and make up sources.
	They shouldn't be allowed to use sources.
	Unless they use somebody's name.
	His latest target?
	A CNN report that FBI officials refused the White House request to knock down reports of alleged conversations between Trump associates and Russian intelligence officials during the 2016 campaign.
	Before this morning's speech, the president tweeted, the FBI is totally unable to stop the national security leakers that have permeated our government.
	Classified information is being given to media that could have a devastating effect on U.S. This afternoon, the Trump administration's relationship with the White House press corps hit another stumbling block.
	Some news outlets, including the New York Times, CNN, and the Los Angeles Times, were excluded from an informal off-camera briefing with Press Secretary Sean Spicer.
	Conservative news organizations were allowed in.
	White House officials offered no immediate explanation.
	For the PBS NewsHour, I'm John Yang at CPAC in Oxon Hill, Maryland.
	Barrington Northern.
	Great.
	Well, in the background of this CPAC event, the Democratic National Committee, the party, were working on electing a new leader, and there was lots of debates and things going on, and I was very happy to see that Donna Brazile, the interim president, Chief of the DNC, you'll recall, but we'd probably just back it up a little bit.
	During the election cycle, she received questions from CNN where she was working, and she passed them on to Hillary, and then later had the audacity to say, well, we don't know if that's true because the Russians hacked my emails, and they were changing stuff, and...
	So, you know, she's a liar, and she was fired from CNN over it.
	Fired.
	Fired.
	Now she comes out, and you have to bear in mind, this little speech she does is all about her.
	Because I'm sure she was threatened.
	I'm sure she had a really rough go of it.
	But people blamed her.
	In emails, we also saw that she was more than willing to screw Bernie Sanders over.
	So that's a little review.
	Now she comes out and her job here is to rile up the base who are incredibly unenthusiastic.
	They needed Jeb Bush there to say, please clap a couple of times.
	But speaking of frenzy, she goes into just a crazy rant that has to be heard to be believed.
	When I received that call on Sunday, July 24th, To once again become your chairwoman.
	I did so without reservations.
	Now, does she usually get open table to get those reservations?
	Or did she mean to say reservation?
	I did it without reservations.
	Really?
	When I received that call on Sunday, July 24th.
	To once again become your chairwoman.
	I did so without reservations.
	I was just a walk-in.
	No reservation for me.
	I don't need reservations.
	That just kind of set me up for the goodness that was about to come.
	Because I'm a Democrat.
	I dropped everything I could possibly drop out of my life.
	My jobs, my income.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa.
	You were fired from your jobs.
	What do you mean?
	My jobs, my income.
	Now you were fired.
	Out of my life.
	My jobs, my income, my vacation, my time away.
	I took phone calls from Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and I said, absolutely.
	There would not be a Donna Brazile had it not been for the leaders of this party, starting with John F. Kennedy and Lyndon Baines Johnson.
	There would not be a Donna Brazile had it.
	Was that...
	Did they call her too?
	I don't know.
	What she's doing now is she's talking about herself in the third person.
	This always fascinates me.
	I don't know why you do that.
	I've never done that, that I can remember.
	Well, you've got a lot left.
	You can still do it.
	What does that mean?
	What does that say about someone when they talk about themselves in the third person that way?
	So there would not be...
	You know, we have to...
	Here's what...
	I mean, we can just make something up right now, but I think we should actually look into it and have some psychiatrists and some other people tell us so we can actually report to our producers what does it really mean.
	I mean...
	It happens all the time in sports with certain psycho players.
	They always talk about themselves in the third person.
	To me, there's always something psycho about it.
	Trump also does it.
	He does it a lot.
	Constantly.
	All right, so narcissism probably.
	That's just going to be my guess, but we'll see.
	Clinton, Barack Obama, and I said, absolutely.
	There would not be a Don of Brazil had it not been for the leaders of this party, starting with John F. Kennedy and Lyndon Baines Johnson.
	Lyndon Baines, Baines.
	She's funny, man.
	Let it play.
	All right.
	It would not be a down in Brazil had it not been for Jesse Jackson and Walter Mondale and Dick Gephardt and Mike Dukakis and Bill Clinton and Al Gore and Barack Obama.
	Barack Obama!
	I fought a little bit over the years with Hillary Clinton when she first started the Children's Defense Fund.
	And yes, I marched with and registered new voters with Bernie Sanders.
	And so my first obligation as the party chair was to make sure that I went into that building To conduct the most exhaustive review of our party.
	I know you don't want me to stop it, but geez, come on.
	I went through everything I could find.
	And let me tell you, when I found things that were inconsistent with our values, I made sure that we put it aside and we got rid of it.
	Everything's clean now.
	Don't worry.
	Donna Brazile has cleaned house.
	It's all good.
	And every step along the way...
	I will call Bernie.
	I will call Hillary.
	And I will report back to them.
	And yes, I am grateful that both Bernie and Hillary stood by us as this party was hacked by a foreign hostile military intelligence unit.
	They stood by us and they helped us to stand back on our feet so that we could get back to work to win for Democrats across this country.
	Remember, she's talking about herself.
	And so when it comes to the staff of the Democratic Party, I will stand by them.
	They are the best and the brightest, the hardest working, the most dedicated, and let me say this, the most courageous people I know.
	I know people who had to march and then came home bleeding.
	I know people who found their family members hanging from trees.
	I have lived long enough growing up in this South to see blood on the hands of those who tried to get people to register.
	And yet I watched for the last seven months people who came to work after their lives were threatened.
	After they had to deal with bomb threats.
	After they had to deal with people who wanted to murder them.
	They can't work for you.
	They didn't back down.
	And I will never back down from them.
	She was so bad.
	Is this woman like 120?
	How old is she?
	She's not that old.
	Thank you for asking.
	57.
	I checked.
	Yeah, but she knows people whose family members were hanging from trees.
	She's crazy.
	And it's all about her.
	About the death threats.
	You know, as I was listening to that, I thought, wow, she sounds like somebody we know.
	And yet I watched for the last seven months people who came to work after their lives were threatened.
	After they had to deal with bomb threats.
	After they had to deal with people who wanted to murder them.
	They came to work for you.
	They didn't back down.
	And I will never back down from them.
	Everybody in Cleveland, no minority get on bubble ball.
	Keep a bomb in president, you know.
	You gave us a phone.
	You got Obama phone.
	Doesn't she sound just like the Obama phone lady?
	A little bit.
	I was thinking more of what's his name with his scream.
	Howard Dean.
	Howard Dean.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	But that's just crazy, man.
	That's the way they like to do it.
	And people were not really riled up.
	They were not really riled up.
	Just they weren't.
	Just not working.
	They put in a Casper milk toast and the Muslim guy didn't win.
	He's irked.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It would have been funny if Ellis and the Muslim congressman had become the new DNC head.
	That would have been awesome.
	I don't know why, I just think that would be...
	It would have been even more...
	The Republicans can take the working men and women and probably take the blacks next, and then the Democrats can just represent the Muslims.
	That's what I'm thinking.
	Well, with that, before we slip into the alternate universe, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C., where the C stands for?
	Conference Dvorak.
	That's a weak one.
	That's all I got.
	In the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	In the morning, our ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
	Yeah, it's in the morning to everybody in the chatroom.
	Noagentistream.com.
	Thank you very much.
	Handing off good lines.
	This is good.
	That's the way I like to see you work.
	I like the way you work.
	Get no diggity.
	And in the morning to Sir Anthony.
	Sir Anthony brought us the artwork for episode 906, Hitler's Playbook, the title of that.
	And of course, this was what some people are calling now one of the best pieces of artwork we've had.
	The No Agenda CIABS logo.
	With the all-seeing eye and the BS. Very prominent.
	Yeah, the BS very prominent.
	It was great!
	Fantastic piece of work.
	And, of course, we...
	It was.
	It was very, very...
	And it was great and funny.
	Yes.
	And we love to credit our artists, which we always do, in the show notes as well.
	This will be for 907.noagendanotes.com.
	And, of course, anyone can upload anything they think will work at noagendaartgenerator.com.
	Value for value is our motto.
	So we have a couple of insta-nights today.
	Oh, really?
	What happened?
	Why was that?
	They saved the day for us, that's for sure.
	Why was that?
	Starting with...
	Random number?
	Okay.
	Peter Roth Van Ruthven in West Pimble, New South Wales, Australia.
	Oh, nice.
	Came in with $1,000 and he's been listening to it for a long time without donating, so he decided what better time to fix this...
	Excuse me.
	For my birthday, on 222, he's turned 35.
	He's on the list, I assume.
	Yes.
	While I'm traveling Europe.
	Yes.
	I would say while I'm traveling in Europe.
	Or through Europe.
	Or through Europe.
	But he's traveling Europe.
	I went to hospital when I was traveling Europe.
	I went to hospital when I was traveling to Europe to buy a scarf.
	While wearing headscarf.
	I feel that...
	With Adam's talk about heading to Australia soon and so many signs from the show.
	A lot of people get signs, which is great.
	I couldn't avoid this anymore.
	I've really enjoyed the shows of late and they've given me the opportunity to have some interesting conversations with fellow travelers.
	I've been on the road since before Christmas on different tours with close to 200 different people, primarily aged 18 to 20.
	Is he a roadrunner?
	Cody, is he a producer for Rock and Rolls?
	I don't know.
	We're going to find out.
	Well, he's talking about 18 to 25.
	That's the group.
	I want to find out.
	Let us know.
	He says he's certainly been an eye-opener.
	So often when you actually look him up, you know, I don't say that we just look everybody up, but sometimes you can look him up.
	They're on LinkedIn or they're famous in some way.
	We have a lot of famous people that listen to the show.
	But they don't brag about it.
	Anyway, what was it?
	He's getting a good conversation with these kids.
	It is in the mainstream narrative.
	People really do seem to shut down now and do not want to talk.
	I have assumed this and really just an American problem.
	He thought it was an American problem that people don't want to talk.
	He says, no, it's wider.
	Anyway, thanks for all the work you do, which I think we know that.
	Looks like he's a financial consultant.
	Maybe he's on some speaking tour, but 18 to 25?
	I don't know.
	I look forward to hearing for your future deconstruction.
	The only request I have for a dedouching, jobs karma, and I will have to look for work once I get back home.
	Maybe he's following the dead around.
	Peter of Sydney, I look forward to your ceremony later on today, sir.
	Here's your deducing.
	You've been deduced.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	And thank you very much for your instant.
	And there are a lot of people that are like, you know, whatever they do, they can be bankers, and all of a sudden they decide to go on the road for a year and follow the dead.
	The Grateful Dead.
	Or the new band.
	That's what's next for us.
	Fish.
	Fish is the new band.
	Fish.
	Nobody follows Fish.
	Yes, there are Fish people.
	Please find attached a check for $1,000.
	This is our next instantite.
	This is AJ Van Steenbergen.
	Okay.
	Van Steenbergen.
	Sounds Dutch.
	Yes.
	I understand you all have real trouble keeping track of small donations until we reach knighthoods.
	We don't have trouble.
	No.
	At all.
	Because we don't keep track at all.
	That's why it's not a problem.
	So it's not a problem.
	I decided to go all in with my first donation.
	I'm tired of being a douchebag.
	Another one.
	This is great.
	I hope everybody out there hasn't donated, which is plenty of people.
	They all of a sudden say to themselves...
	I'm a douchebag.
	They say, I'm a douchebag.
	I'm going to give $1,000.
	Well, that tells me that these people have enjoyed quite a considerable amount of value from the program, and that makes me smile.
	Well, that's good, and they've also gotten a guilty conscience finally.
	Anyway, you have to give him a de-douching.
	So let's just do that.
	You've been de-douched.
	Anyway, henceforth, he liked to be known as Sir Dogbert of the SoCal Underverse.
	Okay.
	He's in Carlsbad.
	He's in Southern California.
	As a fairly recent smash-mouth victim, I wanted to share my first Social Security check with you in gratitude.
	This is great.
	For your deconstruction efforts, for which I'm very grateful.
	Please continue your great work and continue paying your federal taxes so I can share more of my federal largesse with you in the future.
	I need a dedouching.
	We gave you that.
	And request anything you have with Al Sharpton.
	Also Yoko Ono with two shots to the head.
	So you want Sharpton, Yoko, two shots to the head.
	And some karma for his little sweetheart, Gracie.
	Now, AJ is, or Al, but AJ. He's also a retired lieutenant colonel in the Marines.
	Really?
	So he's probably getting, I'm assuming he's getting a military pension, too, or a Marine pension.
	Oh, which is good.
	So Semper Fi.
	Yeah, Semper Fi.
	But resist, we much.
	We must and we will much about that be committed.
	You've got karma.
	You've got karma.
	You need a lozenge, man.
	You okay?
	I do need a lozenge.
	I'm going to have to find one in a minute.
	Sir Tom Derry, 33333, parts unknown.
	Hey, pinky in the brain, having been without steady work since retiring from the Navy in July of 2015.
	Today's military day.
	Money has been tight and I have not been able to donate to the show.
	Things keep getting back on track now that I'm sailing again as a marine engineer.
	It was time to pay up my dues and become a productive producer in good standing.
	Okay, why don't you read something while I go find a lozenge.
	I'll be coughing my way through this thing.
	Okay.
	As my birthday is on the 2nd of March, I thought I would give a gift of cash.
	That's right, cash.
	To help ensure the show remains for all to enjoy, I've also set up my bank to send a monthly donation.
	Thank you.
	I strongly encourage people to support the Value for Value model.
	Every dollar helps, so pitch in!
	Yes.
	Adam, I did like seeing how the sausage is made.
	I should probably explain that if you haven't heard of this.
	I did a screencast of a production back at the Crackpot Condo.
	I'm surprised anybody got a kick out of that.
	I've seen people who sat down and watched it for their evening entertainment with a beer and some chips.
	I'm not kidding.
	People have tweeted pictures like, oh, this is great.
	I'm having a nice evening of watching the sausage being made.
	Can we get an update walkthrough video of both your studio and the Airstream of Consciousness?
	Hmm.
	No.
	I've tweeted out pictures before, but this was just a one-time, one-time only, and I like the fact that you know I'm sitting in the Airstream, you know it's true, and that you imagine what it looks like.
	That theater of the mind.
	This was a one-shot deal.
	Anyway, the more technical, the better, since I would love to see a couple of shows about living in Japan and working on the high seas.
	Oh, no, he would love to do a couple of shows.
	Yeah, he wants to do some shows.
	Well, you should.
	You should.
	I'll help you out.
	But it has nothing to do with what we've shown on that video, I don't think.
	And you don't want to, Ben, believe me, you do not need to be at Adam's level to do a reasonably good podcast.
	No, absolutely not.
	I mean, if you want to do the No Agenda show with all the noises and sound effects and clips and all the rest, you need to be decent.
	No.
	And even so, let's say you wanted to do the No Agenda show.
	You're missing the point.
	But you could post it all.
	If you want to do the best podcast in the universe, you have to do what I do.
	Yeah, and it's done in real time.
	But if you wanted to do something that sounded good, you could post it.
	You could do it all after the fact, you know, talk, talk, talk.
	Yeah, I'm not a fan of that.
	I'm not a fan of that.
	I'm not a fan of that.
	Well, actually...
	It never sounds great.
	It never does.
	It doesn't have the life to it.
	No.
	Being from Madison, Wisconsin, home of the Noodle Boy, please play him for me, followed by my favorite, LGY, jobs karma for all those, at Noodles& Company, who will lose their job this year, as recently reported.
	Yes, they're going out of business, the Noodles& Company.
	Gee, I wonder why.
	Yeah, that's for sure.
	Play a little bit of the noodle.
	Well, like I described earlier, there are two fundamental classes that are just a plain fact in society.
	You either work for someone else or you work for yourself.
	And most people work for someone else in a way that they aren't free.
	You don't really get to decide your work.
	For example, I work at Noodles, a restaurant, and basically it's a dictatorship there.
	We're told exactly what we're going to cook, how we're going to cook it, You know, we didn't have the term social justice warrior when we first started playing this.
	This is what now?
	Is it five years ago?
	Five years ago?
	Six years ago, maybe?
	But this was the beginning.
	In fact, Noodles and Company, ground zero of the social justice warrior movement.
	We get there.
	And basically, if they don't like what they're doing, they try to tell us what to do.
	If we don't listen, they get rid of us.
	And so we're not able to actually cooperate in a way that we make decisions together.
	I try to convince my fellow employees that we should have a union at Noodles, so it's a source of power to start a Noodles union.
	And I think in terms of the bigger picture, when you look at revolutions, the way that you actually get rid of any sort of dictatorship.
	I can't take it anymore.
	Yay!
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Yay!
	You've got karma.
	There you go.
	Noodle Boy.
	Good times with the Noodle Boy.
	Okay, I'll take it from Sir Patrick Coble.
	$255.
	He's down in Tennessee.
	In the Murfreesboro area.
	It doesn't say it on here.
	I don't know what the deal is.
	Anyway, sorry for the delay in donating.
	Starting...
	Starting your own nerdy company.
	Oh, he's starting up with something.
	That's interesting.
	Oh, cool.
	It takes a while to get going and it isn't cheap.
	Things are finally catching up and in the first place I need to get straight was the best podcast in the universe to ensure the karma train keeps rolling.
	Sarah and I will be donating again soon to get her official damehood so she can come to the table.
	Keep up the great job as always.
	Stellar work.
	Jingles.
	Job.
	Karma.
	Mash-up, chemtrail, for 25 years, something from the Seed Man.
	I gotcha.
	Okay, and then he also is just chiding me, because he's going to come out to go to the train museum.
	Yeah, he wants to know when it's happening.
	When is it happening?
	He does.
	That's what he wants.
	Okay.
	And I'll tell him.
	I'm going to do him in the order he requested, although it's not the typical order.
	Maybe he has a reason for it, so here we go.
	Jobs.
	Jobs.
	And jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Yeah!
	My God, for 25 years, they've been growing babies in cows!
	You've got karma.
	And they are!
	They're growing in pigs, but he was close enough.
	Yeah, I remember that.
	Okay, we got Milton Cuevas from Parts Unknown, $250, and I'm looking to see if he has C-U-E-V-A-S. Is that right?
	Yeah, I don't think I have.
	There's no note here in the email.
	Let's try Milton.
	Cuevas.
	We got a lot of Miltons.
	Milton, no.
	So I haven't got an email note.
	No, I don't have anything from him either.
	Sorry to say.
	Okay, well, Milton, if you want something to tell us, send us a note again.
	Yes.
	Onward to James Reeves.
	Again, parts unknown.
	I don't know where he's from.
	I just got to figure out what the deal is with that.
	$233.33 ITM Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	Thank you for your courage and dedication in making the best podcast in the universe.
	I'm working on an important project right now and I'm battling procrastination.
	There it is.
	There it is again.
	Procrastination punches.
	Yes, yes.
	I don't need any jingles.
	Maybe you do, but would like the following sequence so I can blast it in my ear every morning.
	Adam in demon voice.
	Okay, let's see.
	Hold on.
	He has a little script.
	We'll do it.
	We'll do it.
	We're going to do the script.
	Ready?
	Okay, count me down.
	Three, two, one.
	JC, you know what you're supposed to do.
	Do it now!
	No, you fucked it up, man.
	You're supposed to do it with your echo thing.
	I'm sorry.
	You need to do it with your echo tube.
	There's your echo tube.
	I thought you were...
	Oh, that's even better.
	Well, I was playing the script.
	You know what?
	It's better.
	We'll do it on my system.
	We'll try it again.
	Don't use the tube.
	I'll use your thing.
	Alright?
	Okay, that's what I was thinking you were going to do.
	Alright, count me down again.
	Three, two, one.
	Jace!
	Okay, that didn't work.
	Count me in again.
	Three, two, one.
	D.C., you know what you're supposed to do.
	Do it now.
	Oh, fuck, it failed.
	I don't know.
	It said...
	Okay, I'll use the Echo Tube.
	Yeah, that's better if you use the Echo Tube.
	Testing, testing, testing.
	Okay, yeah, sounds good.
	Okay, one more time.
	Count me in.
	Okay, go.
	Three, two, one.
	JC, you know what you're supposed to do?
	Do it now!
	God.
	I hope that helps.
	That's what we can do.
	I hope that helps.
	Take five.
	Boy, we are bad.
	Yeah, really.
	So thanks.
	Okay, well anyway, maybe that'll help you, JC, and get some more.
	Yeah, sure hope so.
	Was that it?
	That's it for today.
	Yeah, that's it.
	That's our group of well-wishers and executive and associate executive producers for show 907.
	Yes, I have a couple of PR mentions for today.
	First, I want to mention that the No Agenda Shop have a very nice business model.
	They make t-shirts, mugs, all kinds of swag out of No Agenda artwork.
	And the way they do it is they sell the t-shirt.
	33% of the proceeds goes to the artist whose artwork was used.
	33% goes to the best podcast in the universe.
	And 33% goes to No Agenda Shop.
	I don't know how they're making money, but I really appreciate it.
	They're not.
	I can't believe they are, but they're having fun.
	And they took that fantastic piece that we were talking about and put it on a t-shirt.
	The one that looked a bit like a test pattern.
	Artwork from a few shows ago.
	Really nice.
	Really nice.
	I have also put in the PR section the GitHub repository for search.nashownotes.com.
	A number of people, dudes named Ben, reached out and said, Hey, I'll be happy to take it over and set it up.
	Where is it on GitHub?
	It's interesting because I did one search and I found it pretty quick.
	And then the final piece, I'm very happy about this.
	I've not had time to read it yet, but now available as a giblet in the Amazon giblet section.
	The seventh in the series of Gitmo Nation short stories.
	This, of course, is from our Uber producer, Scott McKenzie.
	The title of this one is The Self-Driving Killer, a no-agenda short story, Gitmo Nation short stories, book number seven.
	Sounds like a good story already.
	Yeah, of course, it's about autonomous vehicles.
	Yeah, killing people.
	It's a mystery.
	Yeah, and they're easy to read.
	They're fun to read.
	They're filled with show memes, and it's free.
	Zero.
	Oh wait, does he have 99 cents for a Kindle?
	It doesn't matter.
	99 cents is a good deal.
	You totally got to support him.
	Totally.
	And a link in the show notes, of course, under the PR section.
	And thank you to our executive producers and associate executive producers for bringing us the value that we need.
	We, in return, of course, produce the program for you as you are our executive and associate executive producers.
	There's credits that are real and you can use them wherever that may be applicable.
	Certainly, LinkedIn seems to get people a lot of cool attention and jobs.
	And, of course, please remember us for our next program.
	Welcome to the program.
	Coming up on Thursday.
	Dvorak.org slash N-A. So you've got about four days in the meantime to go out there and propagate our formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Water.
	Water.
	Temperance.
	Shut up.
	Ways.
	Shut up.
	Sleep.
	Shut up, sleep.
	I have a little article I'd like to read.
	It'll run by you.
	Okay.
	I don't know how much of this is true.
	It's a Dow Jones report on this crazy website called Heat Street.
	Yeah, this is a...
	I've seen this as some kind of propaganda thing.
	I don't know what it...
	I'm not quite sure.
	I haven't put my finger on it.
	But this is Cambridge students claim that inauthentic canteen food...
	That's from the...
	Cafeteria in the college.
	They call it canteen.
	It is a microaggression.
	Wait a minute.
	Students at the university...
	I knew that these guys are taking all this stuff pretty seriously because you see all these protests and they won't let people speak in all the big schools like Cambridge in the UK. But you have to wonder if this is a put-on or not, but it's still a good story.
	Students at the University of Cambridge have attacked the canteen staff for producing inauthentic foreign food, claiming it's a microaggression.
	That's a good one.
	Yeah.
	I like that.
	One anonymous student wrote, Dear Pembroke Catering Staff, Stop mixing mango and beef and calling it Jamaican stew.
	It's rude.
	And that's also cultural appropriation of the highest order.
	They do not discuss that.
	Other dishes singled out for criticism were Oriental beef stew, Tunisian rice, and African stew, according to screenshots published by the Cambridge tab.
	I know exactly what happened.
	There was a meeting at Pembroke Catering, whatever it's called, and it went like this.
	We need some diversity in our menu.
	Okay, I got an idea.
	Tunisian rice!
	African beef.
	Right.
	Jamaican.
	Wow, you know that's what happened.
	I think you might be right.
	Another said, quote, I'm used to, as a minority student here, being constantly invalidated.
	I like that.
	You get invalidated.
	Invalidated.
	You, my friend, are invalid.
	Yes, you're invalid.
	I've been constantly invalidated when flagging up specific issues, which is just the culture at Pembroke.
	This is fantastic.
	Tina and I use the plated.
	You know, it's like Blue Apron and you get it twice a week and you have meals in there.
	I'm going to complain.
	I'm going to complain about their diversity.
	You're being invalidated.
	I'm being invalidated and their menus are microaggression.
	Sure, I know there are bigger issues, but microaggressions are a reality of the everyday existence of many people of color.
	Some students subjected to the attacks on the catering staff and defended the food.
	One Indian student wrote, Well, the Indian food in Trough isn't straight from my Daddiki Karahi in a Mumbai high-rise.
	I'm thankful to the Pembroke staff for at least trying.
	Ha!
	In another kid's quote, I urge people to look around and realize there's a lot more to life than complaining about fruity chicken.
	Grow up.
	Although it served as an elegant dining 19th century dining hall surrounded by the portraits of distinguished academics, food at Cambridge colleges is of similar quality to that served in college and faculty canteens anywhere and has been for years.
	What is unusual is the students considering the quality of their dinner a matter of cultural violence.
	Wow.
	And engaging in earnest online flame wars over the issue.
	The incident echoes comments last year by Lena Dunham, who decided the canteen sushi served at Oberlin, her alma mater, was not up to scratch.
	By the way, most sushi is not up to scratch.
	I was going to say.
	Oberlin, isn't that in Ohio?
	Is it in the middle of nowhere?
	Are you going to get good sushi?
	Things not to eat at school.
	Top of the list, ladies and gentlemen.
	Yeah, sushi is right at the top of my list.
	You want kids puking everywhere?
	Yeah, sushi.
	Raw fish.
	Are you kidding me?
	This sushi is not up to scratch.
	I've had better sushi in the Los Angeles bar.
	You know, on the face bag, there's this copy and paste meme going around about the Betsy DeVos, of course, will abolish, you know, was going to ruin public schooling.
	And one of the big jokes in this copy and paste, I'm doing it from memory, is, you know, this is going to repeal the oh-so-important cafeteria act of, you know, 2010 or whatever.
	Are you kidding me?
	The crap kids are being made to eat is unidentifiable.
	Exactly.
	Except for the sticker that says Jamaican.
	You were right about this, by the way.
	You're going to hear this next line.
	There's only a couple more graphs.
	She echoes comments, Lena, by campus activists who said the low-quality Japanese food was a gross manipulation of traditional recipes, which they further derided as, quote, appropriative.
	There you go.
	I want blowfish at school.
	And disrespectful blowfish.
	And disrespectful.
	Oh, the end is near.
	He said the head chef has been upset to hear the allegation and will aim to do more in the future to avoid offending anyone else.
	Yeah, meatloaf forever.
	Oh, man.
	Okay, now I have to read something to you.
	This is along the same lines of nuttiness.
	We are expecting in March, March 8th, Women's Day, International Women's Day, a big movement, a big march, and it is titled, A Day Without a Woman.
	And the idea is all women are going to, well, I'll read it to you.
	Our International Women's Day March, on International Women's Day March 8th, women and our allies will act together for equity, justice, and the human rights of women through a one-day demonstration of economic solidarity.
	The Women's March supports the feminists of color and grassroots groups organizing the International Women's Strike on International Women's Day March 8th.
	In the same spirit of love and liberation that inspired the Women's March, together we will mark the day by recognizing the enormous value that women of all backgrounds add to our socioeconomic system while receiving lower wages and experiencing greater inequities, vulnerability to discrimination, sexual harassment, and job insecurity.
	Now.
	Bye.
	Here's what is interesting about this.
	This to me is set up by a bunch of rich white women, or let's call them middle class white women, because they are saying all women need to lay down work Everyone needs to stop.
	Just stop, and we're going to march, and we're going to show them.
	This is kind of a modern-day Lysistrata, I guess, except they're not withholding sex.
	But that's coming.
	That's coming.
	They're going to do that one, too.
	Lay down.
	We'll show them, damn it.
	But here's the funny thing about it.
	Here's how I conclude that there's a bunch of white, middle-aged women organizing this.
	So again, the Women's March supports the feminists of color and grassroots groups organizing this women's strike.
	Anyone, anywhere can join by making March 8th a day without a woman in one or all of the following ways.
	Number one, women take the day off from paid and unpaid labor.
	Number two, avoid shopping for one day, with exceptions for small, women, and minority-owned businesses.
	Now this is where my head got a short circuit.
	You're saying...
	Please take the day off, paid or unpaid, and only shop at shops that are owned by women and women of color, who I guess can't participate.
	Do they not get to quit?
	Yeah, they should quit and close the business.
	No, but they're saying right here, we're going to march and we'll come and shop at your place, Blackie.
	That's what they're saying!
	Yeah, yeah, very racist.
	Extremely racist.
	Extremely racist.
	Racist.
	Sorry, I'm not saying it right.
	Racist.
	No T. Extremely racist.
	No T. Yeah, no T. This is people living in the alternate universe.
	Yeah, of course.
	Here's another one from the alternate universe.
	There is now a thinking that Donald Trump won the presidency because in key states, his name showed up at the top of the ballot.
	Because, you know, voters are clearly too stupid.
	Washington Post.
	Washington Post writing this.
	Thousands of.
	Wappo.
	Wappo, wappo, wappo, wappo, wappo, wappo, wappo.
	Thousands of furious Trump fans can't stop visiting a website that pretends Clinton won.
	And we were not going to talk about that.
	But I just want to point out.
	Exactly.
	It's dumb.
	And it's not funny.
	All I'm pointing out is the WAPO, WAPO, WAPO is now writing about it.
	Because they're in the alternate universe.
	I have a couple of examples of this being something that actually exists in the language used.
	Here is the infamous, no, the famous Carl Bernstein from the, from Watergate.
	Wapo, wapo, wapo on CNN.
	Carl Bernstein does it.
	You know, we were talking about before the break about how this is Donald Trump's party, how this was Donald Trump's event.
	Does it surprise you the extent to which how much the Republican Party has embraced this sort of economic nationalism?
	Well, I think two things are happening.
	The base of his victory have embraced it, and we're watching at CPAC a narcissistic demagogue even going farther with his message of anger and with his message of exclusion.
	While on Capitol Hill what is happening, he is scaring the hell out of a lot of movement conservatives and a lot of senators and congressmen who worry about his stability and are well aware that he is presenting all of this in a fact-free universe.
	There it is.
	In a fact-free universe.
	I have to say something.
	Bernstein...
	I think for the last decade, he's rarely shown up on television.
	He works at the paper and he does his columns and he writes and he does whatever he does.
	Once in a while he shows up on these shows.
	All of a sudden, especially since the fake dossier, which Bernstein was all in on reporting on, he's showing up a lot and he's on these things constantly.
	I believe he's doing the bidding of the CIA. He's been reactivated, I agree.
	He's never been activated.
	It was Woodward that was this...
	Oh, you're right.
	Woodward's background was very carefully outlined in Family of Secrets.
	And he was with Army or Navy Intelligence first, and he got into somehow the next thing you know he's writing for the Washington Post, and then he's doing these breakout stories, and he's got all these books he does.
	He was always in the community.
	I don't think...
	Bernstein ever was.
	I think this is a tryout.
	Oh, he's auditioning.
	Looking over at his associate over there.
	These books are being cranked out.
	He's singing as an elder statesman.
	You know, he's slow talks on all these shows.
	And he gets to do a lot of work and he gets to make a lot of money.
	And Carl's got to think to himself, what did I do wrong?
	Yeah.
	I can't get the big dough here.
	Mockingbird is alive and low.
	And he already knows the influence of the agencies because he wrote that piece in 1997 that's on his website, which I assume is still there.
	Yes, it is.
	He may take it down.
	No, it's still there.
	You should go look at it.
	And talking about how the CIA took over the place.
	And I think this is a tryout.
	I think he's okay.
	I'll play ball.
	But, you know, can I get a monthly stipend?
	Just give me some.
	Can I turn in some receipts?
	At least?
	For the subway?
	Yeah.
	Sometimes you can actually see the alternate universe materialize.
	And it was beautiful to see this happen when, again, this goes back to the DNC audition process that we heard Donna Brazile out earlier.
	And Sally Yates walks in the room.
	Sally Yates, if you don't remember, just a few weeks ago, she is the assistant, is she assistant attorney general, I think?
	She was the assistant attorney general and was acting attorney general before they could get Sessions in.
	Right.
	And she said, oh, I'm just not going to follow these policies.
	And she stood up.
	I'm standing up speaking truth to power.
	So she walks in with, I think she walked in with, what's his face?
	Holder.
	Truth to power.
	Truth to power.
	And well, you can hear the, here it is.
	The alternate universe materializes.
	And of course, at the center of our journey there is Rachel Maddow.
	So, I mean, you look at somebody like Sally Yates.
	Before, one month ago, she had this interesting and accomplished but fairly low-profile career as a prosecutor and as a Justice Department official.
	Now she is a household name.
	I mean, in moments like this...
	A household name?
	I'm not so sure about that.
	I don't think so.
	But in her universe, maybe she is.
	We don't know.
	Now she is a household name.
	In moments like this, in moments of political transition, you never know who's going to be called to rise to the occasion.
	You never know who's going to become an overnight hero because of the circumstances they find themselves in or because of actions they feel by conscience they must...
	But now look at this.
	Sally Yates is from Georgia.
	She's from Atlanta.
	This is Sally Yates last week.
	See her in the foreground there?
	This is an event at the Carter Center in Georgia.
	She walks into this room, this event at the Carter Center.
	She's with former Attorney General Eric Holder.
	And you can see she's embarrassed.
	She's blushing there, but she's sort of overwhelmed by the unexpected standing ovation that greets her at the Carter Center.
	Sally Yates was not even there to be in that event.
	She was not there to be on stage.
	No, she was on there.
	We know why she was there.
	She was there to be trotted around as a little good luck charm.
	Look, we've got Sally.
	And it's true, John.
	People just stood up and they were clapping.
	Oh my God, there she is.
	Sally Yates, she spoke two things.
	On a panel or anything, she was just there to sit in the audience.
	But she walks in the room, no introduction necessary.
	Everybody knows who she is.
	She gets a sustained and overwhelming standing ovation.
	Eric Holder backs up to let her soak in the applause.
	And even though she's not part of that event, she's not on the stage, she's not part of the panel, the audience questions at that event at the Carter Center last week ended up getting directed at her.
	Sally Yates, will you please run for Congress?
	Sally Yates, will you please run for Senate?
	Sally Yates, we all know who you are now.
	We'd love you to run.
	Georgia Democrats now say they are seriously lobbying Sally Yates to run for Georgia governor when that seat opens up next year.
	Where did this alternate universe story come from?
	Unbelievable.
	Now, we've been talking about this.
	That is pretty good.
	That's a good clip.
	Well, wait until you hear this one.
	And this comes from...
	This is CNBC. It's a serious report, I guess.
	Maybe it was meant only for a weekend release.
	Now, they do something interesting in this report.
	They connect the...
	Mandela Effect to the alternate universe, which is completely incorrect because we've explored the Mandela Effect.
	Well, listen to it.
	We believe that there are alternate universes in play right now.
	And one theory that exists is that the split happened when CERN kicked on the Large Hadron Collider again.
	And CNBC went out and talked to those guys about it.
	We are not living in an alternate reality, in case you were worried.
	That's according to physicists at the European Organization of Nuclear Research, or CERN for short.
	A spokesperson with the agency was responding to a trending idea that experiments at CERN caused the world to shift into an alternate reality in which Donald Trump became president.
	The CERN spokesman said people shouldn't confuse the agency's work with science fiction.
	CERN is best known for its Large Hadron Collider, a massive particle accelerator in Europe used to study subatomic physics.
	Believers in the strange theory cite the Mandela Effect, a phenomenon that occurs when large groups of people believe something that isn't true.
	They believe the effect has become more common since CERN began staging its experiments.
	The bottom line, rest assured, the physicists have labeled this as fake news.
	There's so much in this.
	I love it.
	And this is NBC. CNBC. Actually, CNBC probably tries to be the most objective because they're just talking about stock market stuff.
	Here's what I don't understand.
	What physicist would say, no, of course not.
	No, you're not living in an alternate reality.
	But wouldn't a true physicist say, but it's possible?
	I think, yeah.
	He said, maybe there's a number of dimensions going on here.
	But wouldn't they have to...
	There's all these dimensions.
	They're all simultaneous.
	They're running...
	They could be running beside each other and then all of a sudden appear at the same point at the same time, maybe.
	It's the only thing that explains what we're witnessing.
	But how can you say it's not true, it's not happening without saying, you know, it's possible?
	It's possible.
	Yeah, most of the physicists are...
	Yeah, they're the ones that believe it.
	To be a really high-end physicist, you really have to be crazy.
	Because your brain is just completely dissociated because the theories and the stuff you understand, you actually understand, it's not normal.
	No.
	But it's also not normal not to acknowledge it, acknowledge the possibility of it.
	Well, there could be some sort of physics training, you know, physicist training.
	Okay, boys, here's what we've got to do.
	You're going to hear this, this and that, and this and that.
	Do not even get into it.
	But what was, to me, almost more interesting is then saying that this is because of the Mandela Effect definition according to NBC News, CNBC, Mandela Effect is when a large group of people believe things that are not true.
	That's not the Mandela Effect.
	That's not what that is.
	No, that's not anything near what it is.
	Yeah.
	And then somehow tie it all into, hey, it's fake news!
	Right.
	Unbelievable.
	Really, that's what you came up with?
	You can't even put a story together that's interesting.
	We need to get out of the story.
	I need an ending.
	You know, just say it's fake news.
	Okay, thanks.
	Good.
	Got it.
	Good to go.
	Thank you.
	Perfect.
	Exactly what we wanted.
	Yeah.
	And then, of course...
	I have...
	Oh, I have one more.
	I've got a couple.
	Okay, go play that.
	Well, just...
	I'm going to move away.
	I'm going to move away.
	Don't move away too far.
	No.
	Well, you see, well...
	When I play The View, you know that there's something else coming, so this is just an example of their alternate universe, and of course...
	Okay, before you play it, play my ISO screamer.
	Play it.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Hold on.
	I don't have my regular setup.
	I'm trying to go as fast as I can.
	My husband with dementia, Alzheimer's, and plus multiple other things!
	What is this?
	What is that?
	It's some raving lunatic that one of those stage, you know, these...
	These town halls, these women are standing up now, and they're just ranting about all kinds of crazy stuff.
	It's fantastic.
	What did she say?
	I couldn't hear it exactly.
	My husband suffered from Alzheimer's, and I don't know if you have insurance, and this is going to cost us.
	Just ranting.
	It's ranting.
	My husband with dementia, Alzheimer's, and plus multiple other things.
	Damn.
	Multiple other things.
	Multiple other things.
	I'm going to put that away.
	Screamer.
	Put that on end of show.
	All right.
	This leads up to tonight.
	Joy Behar on The View.
	That's the thing.
	I feel that, you know, to whom much is given, much is required.
	And you have this significant, significant platform.
	I'm sorry, I should probably set it up by saying this is about the conversation of tonight during the Academy Awards presentation, that there will be lots of political speeches.
	Should they do it?
	Should they not do it?
	That's the conversation.
	That's the thing.
	I feel that, you know, to whom much is given, much is required.
	And you have this significant, significant platform.
	Why not use it for social justice?
	Why not use it to make the point?
	Because it's one view.
	It's one view all the time.
	But it's your view.
	And half the country, yeah, but it's repeated.
	I've never seen an award show in Hollywood and sat back and been like, wow, they're advocating for a right-wing cause.
	That's so interesting.
	John Boyce.
	Okay.
	How loud in an award show?
	You're pushing it.
	I'm subjected to Donald Trump, the biggest celebrity in the world.
	I have to listen to his baloney every minute.
	I want to I want to hear from some other celebrities.
	I don't want to hear from that celebrity anymore.
	These people are really divorcing.
	Okay, well here we go.
	You brought it up.
	You opened it.
	You opened up the line of questioning.
	I did.
	You opened the door so I get to play.
	This was from the Spirit Awards.
	This will be very similar to what you're going to hear in the Academy Awards tonight.
	This is Casey Affleck.
	And he has received the award for, I don't think he's going to receive it again, but he received the award for Best Actor for, I guess, I don't know what the movie was, Manchester by the Sea.
	Just say Lana Land, you're almost always right.
	Yeah, no, this wasn't La La Land.
	It's the only one.
	I'm just going to say La La Land.
	They still don't know whether La La Land is going to sweep or not.
	But here's the...
	Somebody explained La La Land as a love letter to Los Angeles and everyone that's in the academy is in there and they may vote it in.
	That's why.
	I read that and it actually said really, really bad for Hollywood movies.
	I haven't seen La La Land, but apparently it's a lampooning or takeoff.
	I have tried to watch it twice.
	On the screener.
	I have a screener.
	And I have yet to watch it because it's just so corny.
	I just don't...
	Anyway, here's Casey Affleck accepting his award.
	This is the kind of thing you'll probably hear.
	I thought it would be worth recording.
	Thank you, LNV2, for creating this opportunity.
	And now I'm going to do something that I know I shouldn't do, but I should just whisper it to myself in the bathroom.
	And I have whispered it to myself in the bathroom.
	But I feel like...
	Increasingly my kids don't listen to me unless it's something I'm saying on TV. So I just want to say that the policies of this administration are abhorrent and they will not last.
	They won't.
	And you don't have to clap out of obligation.
	It'll be over quicker if I just wrap it up.
	And they're really un-American.
	And also, you know, where's Ezra?
	I was reading something that Ezra's mom wrote this week, and she said that it's a time to struggle for the future and the soul of our nation.
	And so I know this feels preachy and boring, and I'm preaching to the choir, but I'm just lending my little voice to the chorus here and saying that all of you...
	You are struggling.
	You're doing it so well and speaking up, and I'm really proud to be a part of this community for that reason and because you give me trophies and you cast me in movies and stuff like that.
	So thank you all very, very much.
	That's it.
	Thank you.
	He clearly has a problem parenting his kids.
	You know, this is...
	Yes, really.
	Absolutely.
	He's always mumbling in the bathroom, apparently.
	Yeah.
	But this preaching to the choir, if this is going to be at the Academy Awards, they're going to have to put a stop to it.
	This was the worst banal kind of statement about a guy who's been in office for a month.
	He hasn't really done one thing or another so much so that you can condemn him and saying it's the worst ever and all the rest of it.
	This is not going to be a pleasant Academy Awards if they're going to have this kind of speech.
	This is boring.
	It's stupid.
	It's going to be...
	Well, maybe we should just do a drinking game.
	Every time the color orange is mentioned, have a drink.
	Cheetos.
	Cheetos, have a drink.
	Small hands, have a drink.
	Yeah.
	Putin, Putin, Putin.
	You have a drink of vodka.
	Putin.
	I'm not looking forward to this.
	And the movies don't look that good either.
	This is going to be a bad Academy Award.
	And I have to say that Tina, the Keeper, and I, since we're here visiting, we're going to dinner with a dude named Ben here and his wife, and we're recording it at home, and we'll watch it tomorrow night.
	For professional reasons, I have to have a report, obviously.
	I have to see what's going on.
	But yeah, it's going to be horrible.
	But today's show and the New York Times, they're all in.
	No matter who wins, politics will likely take the stage Sunday if recent award shows like the Golden Globes are any indication.
	We need the principled press to hold power to account.
	What is the principled press exactly?
	The principled press.
	Oh, that's a new one.
	Good catch.
	The principled press.
	That means the New York Times and WAPO. WAPO, WAPO, WAPO, WAPO. Hold on.
	The principled press.
	Let me write that down.
	She says the principled press.
	Screw all you other locals.
	Hey, all you losers who aren't in the principled press.
	Hey, losers.
	Just shut down.
	It's insulting.
	...to account, to call them on the carpet for every...
	I said something else.
	It was the principled press to hold power to account, I think.
	...principled press to hold power to account, to call them on the carpet for every...
	Call them on the carpet.
	I like alliteration like that.
	Call them on the carpet.
	Well, we can do more alliteration.
	This is good.
	I like her a lot.
	This is fun.
	Call them on the carpet.
	The truth is our nation is more divided than ever.
	The New York Times will even debut its first ever Oscars ad with the message, the truth is more important than ever.
	A sign that with millions watching, Hollywood's biggest night could become its most political.
	What I don't understand is, is the New York Times making ads?
	They've done ads before like 30, 40 years ago.
	And they did a TV ad for the, I guess they're going to, I think it's been running, or they're going to run it in the category.
	Why are they doing that?
	I'm curious.
	I don't know why.
	Now that you mentioned it, they're, again, preaching to the choir.
	I have no idea.
	Back to...
	Maybe it's to encourage.
	Here's a thought, it's a conspiracy thought.
	The idea is to, it's like an ad with trigger words in it that'll get these crazy actors and actresses to start...
	Go nuts on the stage.
	You know what?
	This world sucks because of this red-headed, green-eyed monster that's in the office.
	Pumpkinhead.
	Cheeto man.
	Yeah, you're right.
	It's a validation is what it is.
	Validating what the actors can now do.
	It's a wink, wink, nudge, dudge.
	It's okay.
	You go, actors.
	We're all behind you.
	Yeah, we'll be taking notes because this is going to be good material.
	You're going to get a lot of free publicity.
	So go for it because we're with you.
	They're going to ruin their careers potentially, but your New York Times is going to write it up in a positive way.
	I introduced you to villain character actor Robert Davi earlier.
	He has a very good idea for all of these fabulous Hollywood actors and other people accepting awards.
	It's people attending in general.
	He says, this is great.
	I love that you have such big hearts.
	In actuality, he wrote an open letter to Hollywood and to the Academy about this.
	And his argument was, why not let...
	Immigrants, legal and illegal, enjoy all of America, and invite them as your guest to the Academy Awards.
	3,500 seats at the Oscars, and there's other parties all around town, the Vanity Fair party.
	Let them come as guests.
	Give 3,000 tickets to the illegal immigrants, the criminals, the refugees.
	Let them enjoy the Wolfgang Park dinners and the Governor's Ball and the entertainment.
	I think it's about time that Hollywood, which they do great things, and I respect all those talents, by the way.
	I disagree vehemently the message they're giving America.
	So I want to have all of the migrants, I ask all of you, if you're listening to me, converge on Hollywood Boulevard on the night of the Oscars, and be guests of all the people that believe we should have a country of no law and no order.
	I don't want any barriers, and I say that the men in blue, the police officers, Hollywood shouldn't hire them to protect them anymore.
	Of course not.
	They shouldn't have those protections.
	I mean, the hypocrisy of it all, you know?
	And then, after the party, bring tents and camp out in Bel Air.
	There's nine-acre homes.
	There's a lot of acres.
	I think they should camp out there and see what happens.
	I mean, we're all for...
	And this is with love in my heart.
	That's how you sign the piece, with great love.
	I think we should even, you know, just even invite some of them right there from wherever they might be in Budapest right now and bring them over and say, come on, Habibi, come to the Oscars.
	It's sad that they don't.
	No, look, there's a lot of people, let me, with the caveat of this, a lot of people in Hollywood have big hearts.
	A lot of talents have big hearts.
	I think a lot of them do, for sure.
	They do, absolutely.
	And they do great things.
	But for some reason, they've lost sight of the American worker.
	They've lost sight of America, the blue collar of America, and what America stood for.
	Yeah, you're going to lose sight of your career, but I appreciate what you're saying.
	Very funny.
	Well, he'll get hired by James Woods when he produces something.
	I like the little microaggression there from the Jew calling the Arab Habibi.
	Nice little microaggression.
	Microaggression.
	This guy's good.
	I thought it was fantastic.
	This is getting better by the week.
	Our show is improving because of the craziness of the second dimension.
	Yes.
	Oh, the second dimension.
	Very nice.
	Yeah, we're...
	How about...
	Let's play some off...
	Here's the hit...
	Well, there's actually...
	I got a lot of clips left, but we're going to run out of time.
	Okay, but we'll do one more, and then we'll go to break for the D-block.
	Okay, well, let's go...
	I've got a Lionel rant that is pretty...
	Normally, Lionel's on RT, and Lionel's an ex-lawyer, used to be on WABC, or one of these stations in New York.
	WABC! And he...
	We'll always do these rants, which is rare in television nowadays, but this particular rant is good because, and I'm not going to run these rants maybe once a year, and this will be it.
	It's short.
	It's a little rant, and he does a little twist at the end that I just thought was very creative because he does it so well.
	He's really a good ranter.
	For the longest time, the American public has been held hostage by these people who've had a monopoly with this haughty, hubristic attitude that they know better.
	And let me let everyone around the world know this.
	You have no idea the 24-7, incessant drumbeat of everything that is anti-Trump.
	Look.
	I'm not standing up for the man.
	I didn't vote for the man.
	I'm not here to push his agenda.
	I'm telling you the facts.
	Everything about Trump, his family, his daughter, his sons, his hands, his color of his skin.
	But I've got a little news for these folks because they don't realize this.
	You know...
	Sometimes when a star burns out millions of years ago, it takes a long time for the light to reach the earth.
	And you think you still see the star, but it's not there.
	That's the mainstream media.
	They don't know they're dead.
	Well, I agree.
	We've been fighting fake news for the entire life of the show.
	The show.
	That's what it is.
	That's what deconstruction does.
	It shows that you got...
	The basis for the stories are bogus or they're controlled by a public relations company or all the sort of things that you run into.
	Well, I have maybe then...
	And now that they've got, by the way, native advertising just makes it just a joke.
	Oh, yeah, it makes it...
	Exactly.
	Well, it's a slow motion collapse.
	The music business was first.
	Number one album this week with a whopping 17,000 sold is the soundtrack to La La Land.
	Come on, people.
	Come on.
	There's no music business anymore.
	Books are still kind of doing pretty decent, I guess.
	This is not the sharing culture.
	Books are very old-fashioned.
	Well, I mean, the music is doing okay.
	No, no.
	It's a music business.
	Oh, the music business.
	Yeah, it's like saying there's no writing, you know, of course.
	There's always writing.
	There's always music.
	People like to play music.
	People like to sing.
	Radio is dying.
	The news business is doing fine.
	It's just scattered now and it's all over the place and the big giant behemoths are having trouble because they can't make their model work over the internet.
	It's just that simple.
	Before we go and thank a few more people, the Trump administration changed the guidance on use of bathrooms, transgender bathrooms, transgender, which bathrooms they want to use.
	This is mainly towards schools and was very clear this is a state's right issue.
	Send it back.
	I don't want to go down the marijuana route, but I do want to say...
	That also, maybe it's a red herring and they're going to use that and say, you know what, we're also sending marijuana back to the states, which is also where that belongs.
	But the transgender issue is like, this is guidance, which you pointed out perfectly on the previous program, that the guidance is still valid, it's still there, it's just the Trump administration is now saying we shouldn't be providing you guidance.
	If you want to read it, that's what we thought, but this should be something that you arrange in your own state, which is, I think, appropriate.
	And I think most liberals who are all for marijuana think the same thing.
	So there's a lot of confusion and double standards.
	Are you for it with marijuana or why not this?
	A lot of double standards.
	Make up your minds!
	Um...
	But this transgender thing is a big deal, and it comes out in the backdrop, in the background, of an updated report from the American College of Pediatricians, which is a real group.
	It's a trade organization, I guess is what you'd call it.
	Yeah, I think it would be something like that.
	They do a lot of conferences and they all talk to each other and they learn what's going on.
	And I wanted to share this because the star that has long ago burned out and who's like we still see the mainstream corporate media does not report on this.
	Gender ideology harms children.
	And this is from the pediatricians and I think it's worth reading.
	The American College of Pediatricians urges healthcare professionals, educators, and legislators to reject all policies that condition children to accept as normal a life of chemical and surgical impersonation of the opposite sex.
	Facts, not ideology, determine reality.
	Now that I think about it, I want to make sure this is not some crazy organization, but what I can see is these guys are legit.
	So here are their arguments.
	One, human sexuality is an objective biological binary trait.
	XY and XX are genetic markers of male and female, respectively, not genetic markers of a disorder.
	So now they're calling it a disorder.
	The norm for human is designed to be conceived either male or female.
	Human sexuality is binary by design with the obvious purpose being the reproduction and flourishing of our species.
	The principle is self-evident.
	The exceedingly rare disorders of sexual development, SDSDs, sexual development disorder, including but not limited to testicular feminization and congenital adrenal hyperplasia, Whoa.
	Are all medically identifiable deviations from the sexual binary norm.
	Whoa.
	And what?
	He said, it's just funny the way you position it.
	Whoa.
	Whoa.
	Whoa, man.
	Whoa.
	It's like the Jack the Stoner.
	Dude, you get like testicular feminization and congenital adrenal hyperplasia.
	Whoa, man.
	Whoa.
	Whoa, man.
	Individual with DSDs, also referred to as intersex, do not constitute a third sex.
	Two, no one is born with a gender.
	Everyone is born with a biological sex, gender and psychological concept, not an objective biological one.
	I don't have to go into detail on that.
	Three, a person's belief that he or she is something they are not is, at best, a sign of confused thinking.
	I can't wait for this to...
	Someone should report on this.
	When an otherwise healthy...
	You'd probably have to have meetings to report on this.
	Oh, jeez, what are we going to do?
	Oh, it'd be horrible.
	When an otherwise healthy biological boy believes he is a girl, or an otherwise healthy biological girl believes she is a boy, an objective psychological problem exists that lies in the mind, not the body, and it should be treated as such.
	These children suffer from gender dysphoria.
	Gender dysphoria, GD, formerly listed as gender identity disorder, is a recognized mental disorder in the most recent edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychiatric Association, DSM-5.
	The psychodynamic and social learning theories of gender disorder and gender identity disorder have never been disproven.
	Four.
	Puberty is not a disease and puberty-blocking hormones can be dangerous.
	Yeah, this is crazy stuff that's happening.
	Reversible or not, puberty-blocking hormones induce a state of disease, the absence of puberty, and inhibit growth and fertility in a previously biologically healthy child.
	And these people have something to say about so-called conversion therapy.
	No, that's horrible, but this?
	No, just blocking puberty.
	According to the DSM-5, which of course I think is full of shit, but okay, as many as 98% of gender-confused boys and 88% of gender-confused girls eventually accept their biological sex after naturally passing through puberty.
	This is some good information here.
	Oh, you gotta dope the kids up before that happens.
	The parents are all in on this, by the way.
	There's a lot of, like, Munchausen's by proxy people that just let their kid, you know, become a freak because they just think it's a great idea.
	It's a little 12-year-old, and the next thing you know, they're Oh, little Johnny, let's cut his dick off.
	That'd be great.
	Then we have a great kid that would really get us a lot of attention.
	Oh, man.
	You know there's some of that going on.
	I think there's a lot of it going on.
	We've had clips with these parents.
	Oh, you know, it's what he wants.
	Yeah.
	It's the parents like that Casey Affleck who can't discipline his kids.
	That's who's doing this.
	Yeah, and instead mumbles in the bathroom.
	And I'll take that back.
	I'll take that back.
	But you can do whatever you want to do.
	You can let your kid do whatever you want to do.
	I really don't care.
	It's all fine with me.
	And I hope it really makes everybody happy.
	I have no problem whatsoever.
	I know plenty of trans people.
	I don't care.
	I really don't care.
	But I think this is important information for parents and children alike and educators and all kinds of people.
	A couple more here.
	We have a lot of trans listeners.
	Yes, we do, of course.
	And, you know, a lot of it could be from the atrazine, or a lot of it can be natural, because chimeras, I think, exist, where you have both male and female DNA in you, and you've got to make a choice, and sometimes it creates all kinds of problems.
	There's a lot of issues here.
	But I think what we're talking about, so we don't offend any of those particular listeners, we're talking about a kid, like an 11-year-old, who is...
	Younger, John.
	Younger.
	We're talking 7-year-olds.
	We've had stories about that.
	It's decided by the parents who are freaks, and that's the freaks we're talking about, that they're going to start giving the kid all kinds of crazy drugs to screw them up.
	Instead of letting them develop naturally.
	Check it out.
	Pre-pubertold children who use puberty blockers to impersonate the opposite sex will require cross-sex hormones in late adolescence.
	This combination leads to permanent sterility.
	These children will never be able to conceive any genetically related children even via artificial reproductive technology.
	In addition, cross-sex hormones, testosterone and estrogen, are associated with dangerous health risks including but not limited to cardiac disease, high blood pressure, blood clots, stroke, diabetes and cancer.
	Anal leakage, I think, too, but they didn't put that in there.
	Seven, rates of suicide are nearly 20 times greater among adults who use cross-sex hormones and undergo sex reassignment surgery, even in Sweden, which is among the most LGBTQ-affirming countries.
	What compassionate and reasonable person, it says here, would condemn young children to this fate knowing that after puberty as many as 88% of girls and 98% of boys will eventually accept reality and achieve a state of mental and physical health?
	AIDS conditioning children into believing a lifetime of chemical and surgical impersonation of the opposite sex is normal and healthful is child abuse.
	Whoa, there they go.
	Well, that's what you've been saying all along.
	Yeah, that's why I dinged him.
	Endorsing gender discordance as normal via public education and legal policies will confuse children and parents, leading more children to present to gender clinics, in quotes.
	I guess that's where they go to the school and say, hey, we're going to have a little session, a gender clinic, where they will be given puberty-blocking drugs.
	This in turn virtually ensures they will choose a lifetime of carcinogenic and otherwise toxic cross-sex hormones and likely consider unnecessary surgical mutilation of their healthy body parts as young adults.
	Signed by President of the American College of Pediatricians, Vice President of the American College of Pediatricians, Distinguished Service Professor of Psychiatry at Johns Hopkins Medical Center, Former Psychiatrist-in-Chief at Johns Hopkins Medical Center.
	I'll read that again.
	Former Psychiatrist-in-Chief at Johns Hopkins Medical Center.
	But this is how the mainstream media talks about it.
	What's striking to me is that the president is willing to wade into this area of denying students' rights at a time when gay rights have come so far so fast in this country and really has been a bipartisan, too.
	Also striking to me that, as with the Supreme Court justice pick, he is perfectly happy to spark a huge ideological battle.
	It helps him unite conservatives, even social conservatives, at a time when he's got low approval ratings And where there's not just the left, but also aspects of the center are politically opposed to it.
	The president is beginning to tear up the social fabric of the country.
	In addition, he's threatening to take away a major new entitlement, which has been given.
	So they're talking about rights and entitlements, but what about the child abuse?
	Oh, won't somebody please think of the children?
	Ugh.
	It's unbelievable.
	It was a transgender or a cross-dresser who wrote a note in saying that he made, and I think it's in the Bay Area, or she, or he, I think it's a he, she, or they, or whatever.
	The person said that There's a huge schism in that community.
	Oh.
	And he says the schism, as far as he could tell, was there were two types of transgender folks, including the cross-dressers.
	This is confusing.
	He said that the ones who took hormones to maintain voice and some of these other...
	Which is not Caitlyn Jenner, I might point out.
	Right.
	The ones who took hormones...
	And I think it applies to Caitlyn Jenner, too.
	All of them that take hormones all voted for Hillary, and all the ones that didn't take hormones all voted for Trump.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Huh.
	Well, that's interesting.
	Yeah.
	Well, and that does fall right in line with Caitlyn Jenner, who was a Republican.
	Yeah, voted for Trump.
	I didn't clip it, but she came out and did this thing about the transgender.
	It seemed like, just looking at Bruce, and I want to remind everyone, your assertion early on was, this is going to end, huge book deal.
	They already had the reality show, not the big success they wanted, because guess what?
	It's boring.
	They have a very boring topic.
	Sorry?
	Yes, very boring.
	Oh, very boring, yeah.
	And so Caitlyn Jenner did this piece where, oh, Mr.
	Trump, you know, call me.
	He was tweeting about it.
	I saw the video, which was really just so crappy.
	But it looked like Caitlyn just threw on a dress and no makeup.
	Didn't even try to disguise the boys.
	Which is very...
	How you doing?
	But it's not...
	That's not typical, I will say.
	That's not typical of the transgender...
	Path to not attempt to change your voice.
	And I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I would say he's definitely not on hormones, that's for sure.
	Definitely not.
	And we're still expecting the big documentary and the book deal.
	When she transitions back to Bruce.
	Doesn't happen overnight.
	No, it doesn't.
	I'm going to show myself a little by donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on no agenda in the morning.
	Let's think a few people donated to show 907.
	We've got 908 coming up and then 909 at Palindrome.
	Hope to get some...
	Some donations in that regard.
	Sir Chase McCarthy.
	Came in at 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
	Then I'd say thank you.
	Anonymous, $97.
	William Chu in Williamston, Michigan.
	He got the first boob.
	Boobs.
	Ah, boob.
	Boob, boob, boob, boob, boob.
	8008.
	And he wants some jobs karma.
	We'll throw that at the end.
	Robert...
	Was it Verderber?
	Verderber.
	I'd say Verderber.
	Verderber.
	Verderber.
	In Palmetto's a boobs guy.
	The boob in this one was, in the last newsletter, the boob was, what's his name up from Canada?
	What's the guy's name?
	Trudeau.
	Lucky Trudeau.
	Because he's wearing a hajib.
	He was with headscarf.
	He was wearing headscarf.
	Yeah, he was wearing headscarf.
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	Seth has a call out.
	He has a call out.
	Sorry for the late donation.
	I promise I'm not that salty for John's mispronunciation of my East.
	Easy name.
	Easy name.
	Seth Anderson.
	Right?
	How am I screwing that up?
	I don't know.
	Anyway, I'd like to call his dad and Corey as douchebags.
	Mark Hudson in Orly, West Yorkshire.
	Boob.
	Boob.
	This is a short list today.
	Thomas Kilbride in Waco, Texas.
	$74.
	Waco?
	Kevin Gabriel in Lancaster, California, 7175.
	He's got a call out here.
	Love the show, even though I argue that I'm on such a subject.
	Was hit in the mouth by my then-girlfriend and now-wife, Katrina, who has long since fallen overboard.
	Oh!
	I think we lost a lot of women during the election.
	Consider that my douchebag call-out.
	Douchebag!
	Douchebag!
	Corey Noonan, 6666.
	Eric Osnes.
	You know, I should be able to pronounce that name.
	6660, he's in Lawndale, California.
	He wants to thank us for the best podcast in the universe.
	I live in the 43rd District, currently represented by Maxine Waters.
	Oh, boots on the ground.
	If you look at the neighborhood that incorporates, you will see that it is very unlikely she will be voted out anytime soon.
	Okay, well, I think we know what you mean.
	It's one of those safe districts that was agreed upon by Republicans and black congresspeople to keep them both in office.
	The only ones suffering are the white Democrats.
	It's kind of funny.
	Oh, I mean, it's a sanctuary city?
	Yes, well, yeah, it's a sanctuary.
	That's what it is, sanctuary for the...
	Immigrants.
	Congressmen that are already there.
	It's been gerrymandered.
	Okay.
	That's what the real sanctuary is about.
	Okay.
	Josh McDonald.
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	Heasel.
	But the one that goes on the dime.
	So it was Josh McDonald.
	The one that goes on the dime.
	Eric Hochul in Berlin.
	Now you have to read again.
	I'm so parched.
	Yes.
	Eric Hochul.
	Berlin.
	$52.
	Deutschland.
	Chris Sundberg, Mercer Island, Washington.
	Resists we much, he says.
	And that is 51 even.
	Scott Nelson from Melbourne, Florida.
	50-01 had a note, perhaps, John?
	Scott Nelson?
	Scott Nelson.
	Did you just drink?
	When you drink, did your harmonica play?
	That was odd.
	That's weird.
	Scott Nelson, that was a check that came in through the system.
	It just happens to be a check.
	I did have a note from someone else, but I'll read that later.
	Andrew Beard, these are all $50 donors, I'll do them.
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	James Butcher in Dalloway, Wally, Wally, Wally, Wally, Wally, Wally, Wally, Wally, Wally, in Washington State somewhere.
	James Butcher, I got again, two of them.
	I don't know.
	That's the way it came in.
	Odd.
	Somehow donated twice.
	All right.
	It could be.
	Joe Schwarzbauer.
	Schwarzbauer.
	In Florissant, Missouri.
	And last but not least, and it is least, there's not that many today.
	We've got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine $50 donors.
	And the last one is Mitchell Kaufman in Hillsborough, Oregon.
	I want to thank these folks and everyone else.
	We've got another show coming up, by the way, on Thursday.
	Dvorak.org slash NA is the place to find the donation page.
	And of course, thanks to everyone who came in under $50.
	That is on this program, typically for reasons of anonymity, and we appreciate that.
	People on the subscriptions, all that really helps.
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	Let's vote for jobs!
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	First, a couple of make-good birthdays who missed the PayPal cutoff.
	We have James Durante, 39, on February 23rd.
	We had Patrick Kelly, who would like to call out David Fields.
	I don't know if that was for his birthday or not, but that's why it's here on the list.
	Let's go on to today's Peter Ruthven, 35 on the 22nd of February.
	Lucas Ziva says happy birthday to his daughter, Marie Estella, who turned one on February 25th yesterday.
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	And finally, Sir Tom Derry will be celebrating on March 2nd.
	Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the Best Podcast in the Universe!
	Okay, we have another made good for Australia.
	Bill Shaw donated $68 Australian dollars, that is, for episode 906, but the donation was missed because of the exchange rate.
	He came in at 49.
	That's the one I actually said his name, and then it looked like he wanted to be anonymous because he was at 49.
	I sent him a note about this.
	And so I pulled back.
	I said, no, I didn't.
	I mumbled.
	I remember that.
	I shouldn't have read it in the first place, but he wanted it read because he actually donated 60 Australian and it came in at $49.95 or something like that.
	Yeah, this is what Eric put on the list, so I'm just...
	Yeah, I do remember you.
	It's a good list and he should get given a proper credit.
	Yes.
	Okay, on that note, my dear sir, we have two nightings for today.
	That's a plus.
	Hold on a second.
	I didn't like how I pulled it out.
	Let me try that again.
	That's better.
	How about you?
	I get the same old, same old.
	Here it comes.
	Watch, watch.
	And the flip caught it.
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	I saw a tweet yesterday of a night ring with a certificate and a sealing wax.
	So it's good.
	I missed it.
	Yeah.
	Look at my retweets.
	Look at my retweets, baby.
	That's where it's all happening.
	One of our producers sent this piece in, sent a page from the New York Times, and I wanted to at least mention it, because it was, Nicholas Kristof wrote it.
	It was, and I just had a quote from one paragraph.
	This is again, you know, one of the, this is the whole New York Times.
	If you look at the New York Times, especially the op-ed page, it's just Trump hate.
	It's unbelievable.
	Yeah, it is.
	Husbands are deadlier than terrorists, is the headline.
	He's got a graph in here, he says, Above all, fear spouses.
	He's talking about terrorists and this bull crap that anyone's dangerous at all.
	Above all, fear spouses.
	Husbands are incomparably more deadly in America than jihadist terrorists.
	The husbands are so deadly in part because in America they have ready access to firearms even when they have a history of violence.
	Come on.
	Yeah, that'll do it.
	I want to thank, that's M. Andrew Jones.
	Don't raff, don't raff, Grant Greenwald was on Democracy Now, and I felt like I was kind of...
	How does he look?
	You know what?
	I've got to tell you, it's almost gone.
	Okay, good.
	Now, there was an odd shadow on that side of his face, the right side of his face.
	I couldn't tell if that was just the lighting.
	He also is still kind of turning his head away a little bit, which, you know, is obvious.
	Well, it's the left side of his face that had the Bell's palsy.
	But it's the right side that looked weird.
	It was left for the viewers, right for him.
	I'm pretty sure.
	No, no.
	It was for the viewers, the right side.
	No, it was the left side.
	No, it was not.
	The left side bothered me.
	Well, you don't remember the side.
	Yeah, I do!
	Mandela effect.
	Mandela effect.
	That's Mandela effect.
	Could be.
	Could be.
	No doubt about it.
	And maybe he never had palsy at all.
	How about that?
	I got you there, didn't I? That's even better.
	He is definitely a Trump hater, but he speaks truth to truth.
	And he came on, he talked about what is going on within the deep state.
	Yes?
	Yeah, well, one thing, he's also a deep state hater.
	Yeah.
	And he's also a hater of people who exaggerate.
	I kind of think what he's thinking about with his Trump hate is, hey, let's hate Trump for the right reasons.
	Yeah, that's a great way to categorize it.
	Yeah, exactly.
	A three-parter and well worth it, I feel.
	Here he is.
	And he makes an accusation about the deep state, which, of course, is the intelligence agencies and the das Apparat that is working underneath the top-level government we see.
	One of the main priorities of the CIA for the last five years has been a proxy war in Syria designed to achieve regime change with the Assad regime.
	Hillary Clinton was not only for that, she was critical of Obama for not allowing it to go further and wanted to impose a no-fly zone in Syria and confront the Russians.
	Donald Trump took exactly the opposite view.
	He said...
	We shouldn't care who rules Syria.
	We should allow the Russians and even help the Russians kill ISIS and al-Qaeda and other people in Syria.
	So Trump's agenda that he ran on was completely antithetical to what the CIA wanted.
	Clinton's was exactly what the CIA wanted, and so they were behind her.
	And so they've been trying to undermine Trump for many months throughout the election, and now that he won, they are not just undermining him with leaks, but actively subverting him.
	There's claims that They're withholding information from him on the grounds that they don't think he should have it and can be trusted with it.
	They are empowering themselves to enact policy.
	We had a clip on the last show.
	For whatever reason, I don't recall it.
	Yeah, and he's been bitching about it.
	And rightfully so.
	People say, oh, it's bullcrap.
	He gets everything.
	No, we had a clip on the last show from an ex-CIA guy.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	I remember.
	Who bitched about it, too.
	This, of course, is dangerous, according to Greenwald.
	Now, I happen to think that the Trump presidency is extremely dangerous.
	You just listed off in your newscast that led the show many reasons.
	They want to dismantle the environment.
	They want to eliminate the safety net.
	They want to empower billionaires.
	They want to enact bigoted policies against Muslims and immigrants and so many others.
	And it is important to resist them.
	And there are lots of really great ways to resist them, such as getting courts to restrain them, Citizen activism and most important of all, having the Democratic Party engage in self-critique to ask itself how it can be a more effective political force in the United States after it has collapsed on all levels.
	That isn't what this resistance is now doing.
	What they're doing instead is trying to take maybe the only faction worse than Donald Trump.
	You nailed it, John.
	exactly what he wants.
	Which is the deep state, the CIA, with its histories of atrocities, and say they ought to almost engage in like a soft coup where they take the elected president and prevent him from enacting his policies.
	And I think it is extremely dangerous to do that.
	And so to urge that the CIA and the intelligence community empower itself to undermine the elected branches of government is insanity.
	That is a prescription for destroying democracy overnight in the name of saving it.
	And yet that's what so many, not just neocons, but the neocons allies in the Democratic Party are now urging and cheering.
	And it's incredibly warped and dangerous to watch them do that.
	Yes.
	Yep.
	Rob Reiner.
	Yeah.
	Great example.
	Exactly.
	Final clip in the series here.
	And, of course, Greenwell knows a lot about dealing with confidential information.
	He was part of the entire system that published Snowden's data.
	But there's, of course, a big double standard.
	For example, there have been lots of claims made.
	...about the communications that General Flynn had with Russian diplomats and what these transcripts supposedly reflect, and yet nobody has seen the transcripts.
	We've seen little bits and pieces of them.
	We haven't seen the whole transcript.
	We ought to see that whole transcript, and my colleague John Schwartz, who wrote that piece, is absolutely right that it's within President Trump's power to order it instantly declassified.
	There's no review of that decision, and then it can be made public.
	On the other hand, it is really bizarre to hear people suggest that the president now ought to take the most sensitive intercepts that the government is capable of obtaining, which is how they eavesdrop on Russian officials inside the Kremlin and just toss them to the public.
	Like, there's no problem at all with doing that.
	I think that what you're seeing here is this really disturbing double standard That all we've heard since the War on Terror is that classified information is sacred, and anybody who leaks it is treasonous and satanic and belongs in jail for a really long time.
	And now classified information seems to be something that's just a plaything, like something that we just toss around for fun if it serves a certain agenda.
	And I think that that's one of the issues that's bothering me about the way this discourse is unfolding.
	I have such hope for Glenn Greenwald as a unifier of the split universe.
	Hey, we're the unifiers of the split universe.
	We're straddling.
	He's not.
	I forgot.
	We're straddling.
	We're straddlers.
	I need a t-shirt.
	I'm a straddler.
	It's all it needs to say.
	I like him.
	I like Greenwald.
	I don't agree with him on a lot of things.
	But did you catch wind of all this?
	To me, it seemed a little coincidental that it comes out right now about the Germans, the BSD, which we pretty much all want to see.
	I have a clip.
	Great, because these guys are good.
	BSD is well known.
	These guys are great spies.
	Well, the BSD. I'm sorry, BSD. BND is, yeah, they're spying.
	By the way, when this report came out, I thought the exact same thing.
	This is very odd that this is coming out right now, and why?
	I didn't get the why part.
	Well...
	We'll discuss.
	In a backlash against the German Federal Intelligence Service, the BND, after it was alleged it had been spying on foreign journalists for more than 15 years.
	A German news outlet, Der Spiegel, claims the BBC, New York Times, and Reuters were among those being monitored.
	Paula Sleer has more from Berlin.
	There's a lot of anger and outrage here in Germany over this whole incident.
	Dare to Spiegel magazine in its weekend edition has published allegations that the German Foreign Intelligence Service, the BND, was spying for several years over a number of media organizations.
	Now these include the BBC. The allegations are of spying on its headquarters in London, also on its bureau in Afghanistan, and the BBC World Service, which is of course its radio arm.
	Spying also of the New York Times in its Afghanistan office and Reuters in both its Afghanistan, Pakistan and Nigeria bureaus as well as other media organizations.
	Now we understand that the BND has the telephone numbers of at least 50 media houses as well as journalists and not just their telephone numbers but also their fax numbers and their email addresses and that the surveillance goes back as far as 1999.
	Yeah.
	You know what amazes me?
	Are these journalists so arrogant that they don't think that, oh, we don't have to encrypt anything or use any precautions?
	We're the media!
	We're the press!
	I'm surprised!
	They're listening to us!
	Are they really that stupid?
	I'm not sure what to make of that.
	I guess they are.
	Must be.
	Unless they're maybe aware of it.
	I mean, we don't know.
	They're not aware of it.
	They never talked to any of them.
	No.
	Were you aware that the Germans were spying on you?
	Yeah, we kind of suspected.
	They can say that.
	It's possible.
	Kind of figured.
	Kind of.
	We have most, you know, you sometimes have more of your meetings, although today's journalists on the phone all the time, but you have a lot of meetings in person.
	They can't do much there.
	Right.
	I mean, they could, but they'd have to know where you were.
	They had to plan a bug in advance.
	Yeah.
	It's hard.
	Unless you keep going to the same place all the time, and I'm sure this is rigged.
	I saw, as I was watching C-SPAN, I saw Kasich come out of the White House.
	Now, Kasich ran in the Republican primaries in the United States.
	Yeah, he was eliminated fast.
	He's just annoying, that's the reason, I think.
	Yeah, but he was...
	He's kind of a mush mouth and he's very annoying and he likes to...
	He's, I thought, more of a braggart than Trump.
	And he was...
	We did this, we did that, we did this, we did that.
	And he was very anti-Trump.
	I hated him.
	I think he called him something.
	He said, well, that's why you're at the end of the line there, like last place.
	So he comes...
	Now, he already has kind of like a dazed look on his face most of the time.
	Kind of like an old dog.
	I have no other way to put it.
	It's a dog look.
	It's definitely a dog.
	And he came out, and he's shuffling.
	And he looked like someone who...
	He put a house coat on him.
	He looked like a confused dude.
	How did I get here?
	Is there a football game on later?
	And the reason is because not only did he have a nice meeting with the president, But they're kind of agreeing on all the same things, in particular when it comes to the Affordable Health Care Act.
	We had a long meeting with the president in the Oval Office, I'd say for about, I don't know, 30 minutes.
	And I did snip out a lot of pauses, but I'm saying that because he was confused.
	He was taking a while to get to his words from time to time.
	Three minutes of it, it was the two of us.
	And I would tell you, the President was very responsive to my concerns about the Affordable Care Act, Medicaid expansion.
	He said he was very intrigued with the idea, and I'm going to have a meeting tomorrow at his direction to Secretary Price.
	So we'll have a meeting tomorrow to talk about the details of the things that my team has been working on.
	Don't know where that will all go, but I will tell you that the president was, you know, he listened very carefully to what I had to say about it and had a very positive response, and he was very open to it and asked a number of questions, and then he was able to call a couple other people in.
	We talked about the whole range of issues, including the high cost of pharmaceuticals contained in the Medicaid plan, which is very interesting.
	I made my suggestions about what we should do in regard to those rising costs.
	Did your opinion of the president changed at all?
	You didn't seem particularly impressed with him as an individual during the lockdown?
	Look, the man is the President of the United States.
	It's sort of like being on an airplane.
	You want to root for the pilot if you're on the airplane with the pilot.
	I mean, you don't want the pilot to screw up.
	Oh, that makes nothing but sense.
	And I like the little nugget in there, expanding Medicaid, which is something you've been talking about.
	No, I've been talking about expanding Medicare.
	Ah, he said Medicare.
	I thought he said Medicare.
	Well, then I'm not so happy about that nugget.
	Did he say Medicaid or Medicare?
	I don't know.
	Now that you mentioned it, I didn't know that was the nugget.
	That's what I thought the nugget was.
	What is expanding Medicaid then?
	That makes no sense.
	Medicaid is everywhere.
	Right now, it's like the fallback.
	Well, the idea...
	We've got to get some solid...
	Maybe he meant Medicare.
	I mean, the way to go is just to do Medicare for everyone.
	The system's already set up.
	It's known to work.
	And then you can go after these drug companies.
	Do you have the clip that was last show's clip about the no-neuroxin or no something?
	It's in caps.
	I was going to move it to today's show and play it, but it's on the...
	Nuroxin?
	It's our Noxidin or something.
	It's that stuff you shoot up heroin overdoses with.
	Oh, no.
	That's...
	But whatever it is, it's on the show.
	I'm going to look.
	On the last program, 906?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	There we go.
	Looking under Noxidin.
	Naloxone.
	All right.
	Playing Naloxone.
	Naloxone into the hands of opioid users and their loved ones.
	In California, you can now buy the drug in pharmacies with or without a prescription.
	But as the push to distribute Naloxone grows, so too has its price.
	It just makes me so angry to hear that because it is such an old medication.
	It's It's a generic medication.
	Decades ago, for medical professionals, a shot cost anywhere from 20 cents to a dollar.
	But in the report, details have the price of some naloxone products recently jumped.
	One injectable used as a nasal spray saw a price increase of 95%.
	A multi-dose vial went up by 129%.
	The massive increase in the price of that medication is scandalous.
	But the most dramatic increase is with a new, easy-to-use auto-injector called Evzio.
	In 2014, a two-pack listed at $690.
	Today, it's priced at $4,500, a 550% increase.
	Some ER doctors see these price increases as gouging.
	You think?
	You think it's gouging?
	It gets worse.
	I wasn't even going to play this clip, but now that you played that one, Stephen Weissman, former hospital administrator, I think a hospital in Philadelphia.
	I'm not sure.
	He opens up here about...
	Pricing within the insurance system.
	You can call me a cynic, but the healthcare industry spends more on lobbying than the oil and gas industry, defense industry, and aerospace industry combined.
	And I can tell you that all our politicians are approaching the problem from the wrong end.
	Everybody's got a healthcare plan, Tucker, which you probably know better than anybody else in the country.
	It's repeal Obamacare, replace Obamacare, amend Obamacare, and all of the plans are based on the false idea that we have an insurance problem in the United States, when what we really have in the United States is a healthcare billing problem, a medical price problem.
	Insurance is only there to pay the medical bills.
	Medical bills is what the real problem is.
	The one thing that every politician avoids talking about like the plague Is medical pricing.
	Healthcare pricing is sick.
	There's no such thing as a market price.
	It's hard to believe that this is an issue that they're missing.
	I think it has something to do with the lobbying power of the industry.
	You know, you ask the price of any service, you can't get a straight answer.
	The only question, the only answer you're allowed to get is what insurance do you have?
	Everybody's price depends on how much can be extracted from you personally.
	And the consumer, the patient, is helpless and hopeless.
	We can't shop because there's no real pricing.
	We depend on the health care provider to tell us what our individual price is supposed to be.
	But what nobody will tell you is that the patient that comes right after you for the exact same service may be paying one-tenth what you're paying or ten times more than you're paying.
	Yep, there you go.
	I didn't know about the lobby.
	I don't know if that's true, but...
	No, I believe it's true, and I think a lot of it has all big pharma.
	Yeah.
	And not only that, but big pharmas, and they're the ones who are jacking these prices up, which make everything more expensive, and it just ratchets up the price of the insurance, which is the idea.
	Because the insurance company is only making a small percentage, but if their small percentage is off of a million, it's one thing.
	If the exact same small percentage is off of $10 billion, that's another number altogether.
	He recounted a story of a lady who had gone to the same pharmacy for decades and been always received...
	Always got her medication for, I think it was $100.
	And then she got her super-duper Obamacare insurance, and all of a sudden the charge was $300.
	And of course, she has a large deductible, so she was $200 more out of pocket.
	And this charging, based upon what we can get, and a known fact, we've talked about it many times, that it's really $0.28 to the dollar that the doctors get.
	At doctors, hospitals, all the reimbursements.
	That's what the insurance companies tap it down to.
	So it's, yeah, it's a huge, huge scam.
	Pricing.
	It's an outrageous scam.
	And I will say, Trump is one of the few people I've heard talk about the pricing.
	Yeah, I don't know if he's going to be able to do a damn thing about it.
	Because the other thing, and I think another reason there's so much Trump hate, the media's all in on this.
	Yeah, they need to see the big networks.
	They're getting a bulk of the money.
	They rely on, right, drug ads.
	Mm-hmm.
	They're making all their money from drug ads.
	We've gone through the ad breakdown on these various shows between the blocks that did on ABC, where it says drug ad, drug ad, drug ad, drug ad, and then there's maybe a car ad.
	It's a drug ad, drug ad.
	Well, and it's always truck month.
	I mean, let's be honest.
	It's always a good time to buy a truck.
	I do want to thank our producer, I forget his name, CS, for putting up a petition on whitehouse.gov.
	I'm very proud of this.
	And I'd like everyone to sign this petition.
	Please ban clicking cameras from the White House press briefing room.
	It's distracting to listen to.
	That's a good one.
	So far, I don't think we have any...
	Well, we should go click on it.
	I think we have zero.
	But I have a clip that I want to get out of the way.
	All right.
	Because it's a one-shot.
	Yeah.
	Are you familiar with bias response teams?
	This must be something on university campuses or something.
	Yes, it is.
	And you check it out.
	You can go look it up.
	And there's college after college that have these things.
	And it's like, in fact, I was just looking it up and I ran into University of Northern Iowa.
	And they have a bias response team.
	And there's all these...
	Purpose.
	Bias response incidents can contribute to an unsafe environment and have a negative effect on an individual group in the campus community.
	Therefore, the university maintains a bias reporting team, BRT. This is a little different.
	Same thing.
	The purpose of the BRT is support and encourage appropriate use of reporting process for bias-related incidents.
	Any bias you have.
	But here's a clip that's kind of discussing it in more detail.
	Okay.
	Well, it is a dark age, an age of darkness in the American Academy.
	According to research by the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education, called FIRE, hundreds of colleges around this country have policies encouraging students to report any offensive speech or other crime-think they overhear from their classmates.
	Once such thought crime is reported, squads with Orwellian names like Bias Incident Response Team swoop in and impose all manner of penalties.
	These range from sensitivity training to suspension.
	How do we get here exactly?
	Robert Shibley is the executive director of FIRE and he joins us now.
	Robert, thanks a lot for coming on.
	Thanks very much for having me.
	It's hard to believe this is real.
	Bias response teams?
	Not only is it real, it's really horrifyingly widespread.
	We found more than 230 of these teams in our searches across campuses nationwide and we're sure there's more that we haven't identified.
	The ones we found though cover and they monitor the speech of 2.84 million students.
	So the idea is that the school is sending out students to tattle on other students for saying things they believe is, what, offensive, indecent, inappropriate?
	Like, what's the standard?
	In some cases, and the standard varies, but they're actually trying to seek out bias and destroy it on campuses.
	And so through a series of online forms, That can be bad.
	Anything, apparently.
	I need this t-shirt.
	On the back, yellow letters like DEA, FBI. It says, bias response team.
	On the front, I straddle.
	I don't know if you need the eye straddle on that shirt, because then you're mixing messages.
	I think just bias response to BRT. BRT. Yeah, BRT, the BRT. Now, I'm looking, if you look at the list, the whole list of the stuff you get when you do a search, you get stuff.
	There's one on here that cracks up, but every school has them.
	They're called bias incidence response team, bias response team, bias reporting.
	Bias this and bias that.
	And there's all these schools.
	It's unbelievable.
	But here's the one that cracks me up.
	This is from, it says Bias Incidents Response Team.
	And it's from, it's the San Diego Continuing Education.
	It's like a night school for adults.
	Who of course need a bias response team.
	I mean, give me a break.
	And this has been going on.
	I'm stunned by this.
	Tucker Carlson put this on.
	I didn't know that.
	I knew there was shit like this going on.
	Or crap, sorry.
	And it was stunned that it's almost universal.
	It's almost demanded.
	And that's the point.
	It is demanded by the children to the parents who are footing the bill.
	Well, when you're paying that much to go to school, you know, if it was free, they could say, we don't care what you think.
	Right.
	But no.
	No, this is the end.
	Sorry.
	This is the end.
	Climate date.
	No, I just, my finger slipped.
	Thick thumb.
	Slippage.
	I got the other stuff, but we can push it off and we can finish this today and then get more stuff on Thursday.
	I, of course, am a proud card-carrying member of the Tourette's Tick team.
	I'd like that t-shirt as well, please.
	Tick reporting.
	Tick.
	Tourette's tick response team.
	Yeah.
	TTRT, everybody.
	Throw water at him.
	Turn the hose on him.
	That'll stop him.
	Post him down.
	All right, everybody.
	Enjoy your Oscars celebration tonight.
	We'll be talking about that on Thursday, of course.
	If there's anything good, but probably briefly.
	Just be on the lookout for some Illuminati shit.
	It's always in there.
	Oops, sorry.
	Not as much as in the music shows.
	No, that's true.
	And thank you to our mixologists who have some end-of-show clips lined up for you and coming to you from the airstream of consciousness here in Vietnam, Arkansas.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley.
	I'm kind of still waiting to see what happens from that spell all the witches put on Trump last night, but we'll talk about that on Thursday.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll be back on Thursday.
	Until then, remember us at dvorak.org slash na.
	Until then, adios mofos!
	Hey honey, I'm home!
	We'll see.
	We'll see what happens.
	Pretty funny.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you can get all kinds of crazy symptoms from untreated syphilis, which was always untreated before penicillin.
	Terrible disease.
	It was a scourge.
	Syphilis.
	Syphilis.
	Get the llama out.
	Get the llama out.
	I believe, by the way, I think the first syphilis It came over from explorers because syphilis is kind of a gross story.
	Syphilis, I believe, this is, I'm pretty sure syphilis, not gonorrhea that I'm talking about, but one of the two.
	But syphilis came over, it never existed in Europe at all until the 14, 1500s.
	Syphilis, hey honey, I'm home!
	Get the llama out.
	Get the llama out.
	After explorers came back from South America, where it turns out that llamas have syphilis naturally.
	Nice.
	We'll see.
	We'll see what happens.
	And you can put two and two together and come up with how that transference took place, but once it happened, it happened.
	Syphilis.
	Syphilis.
	Get the llama out.
	Get the llama out.
	Nice.
	Syphilis.
	Syphilis.
	Get the llama out.
	Get the llama out.
	And so anyway, it became a scourge.
	They couldn't do anything about it.
	And it wasn't until Fleming came along and accidentally discovered penicillin that they actually got rid of it.
	It was terrible.
	Everything makes nothing but sense.
	My husband with dementia, Alzheimer's, plus multiple other things!
	He's a protozoan.
	We the people must drive this regime out.
	I'm assuming you're not a moderate.
	Protozoan.
	Protozoan?
	The intellectual capacity of the president is a protozoan.
	Refuse to accept a fascist America and say no, no.
	I'm assuming you're like a single-celled microscopic animal that the world only I heard it too.
	Or have stood up in protest and continued to defend me.
	And I just think the American people had better understand what's going on.
	This is a bunch of scumbags.
	And Pence are operating out of Hitler's playbook.
	Understand what's going on.
	I'm syphilis.
	Scumbags.
	And Pence are operating out of Hitler's playbook.
	I just think a book sanction's lifted.
	What's going on?
	I think a bunch of scumbags is a bunch of scumbags.
	To straddle the two universes and carry a bike like a surfer on two surfboards.
	You know it in two different ways.
	Because this clan, rachism.org, is saying to the world, is that this clan is what they eat, yes, of course.
	And so, they have to do so.
	The reptilians are now, this is their normal food.
	It's what they eat, yeah.
	The inauguration.
	The capacity of a president is a protozoan.
	Inusual.
	This guy is just...
	And so, 15-04 was...
	But that's what I think we...
	Protozoan.
	Understand that that is kind of not the way to go.
	Stay in the streets.
	Sing aggressively to close down the street down the street.
	We're all organized every single year.
	I don't want to be rude, though, but are your ears and your eyes working?
	Fake news.
	And he repeated fake news.
	You are fake news.
	Child, the intellectual capacity of the president is protozoan.
	Sit down!
	Sit down.
	Let's have some fake outrage here.
	Sit down.
	Sit down.
	The president behaved like a petual child.
	Sit down.
	Sit down.
	Let's have some fake outrage here.
	Sit down.
	Oh, my God.
	Adios, mofo.
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