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	Okay.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	And Sunday, February 12, 2017, this is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 903.
	This is No Agenda.
	With one foot squarely at each alternate universe, and broadcasting live from the darkest corners on the internet, here at Austin Tejas.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where the rain has stopped, but the reservoirs are filled, the capacity from John C. Dvorak.
	You got no drought.
	Drought be done.
	It's supposed to last for decades and actually never end.
	Yes, we're all gonna die.
	They told us as early as last year they said this.
	Something new today, John.
	I just want to mention this up front.
	Okay.
	Yeah, for some reason, I'm in a bit of an archival mode.
	Ooh!
	Yeah, I know.
	So I've been thinking about, you know, what are we doing, our 10th year, and we've got a lot, we'll get to it later, I've got a segment called the No Agenda Story, because we both have great stories.
	The No Agenda Story.
	Yeah, and from time to time we tell the story again, but it's nice to have a collection of those in audio, which I think will be great.
	And, of course, we could do our album, our greatest hits record.
	Of stories?
	Yeah, of course.
	When I was a kid.
	Yeah, that's the title of it, When I Was a Kid.
	You nailed it.
	That's the title of our double LP.
	Double?
	But today, I think this will be for one time and one time only, I decided since people, we always say we make it look so easy what we do.
	We do?
	We say that?
	This is where you say, yeah, we make it look real easy.
	So, I thought for one time and one time only, I am screencasting live at this moment on the YouTubes, and so people can see my entire desktop, so you can see all the things that happened during the show, including the chat, which is really the main reason.
	I would like people in the chat to see what I'm seeing, and the challenges that they present to me often, and the good things.
	And in the little window in the bottom left-hand corner, you see the mixer and the jingle machine, you see my hands.
	And this will be a one-time archive so that we can...
	So you don't have enough to do, is what you're telling me.
	It took me four hours yesterday to get this working.
	So you put four hours into this instead of show prep.
	This is why those video shows are no good.
	Okay, John.
	If you really think that I would let show prep suffer under this, then you're a douche.
	Because that's not what I am about.
	But this is not video of me and of people seeing talking heads.
	This is a technical video.
	With the cans on you.
	You have to have cans on you.
	No, you don't see that.
	Have you ever seen someone show how the sausage is made?
	Here you see my screen desktop.
	It's a screencast.
	Should I go to look at this?
	Well, you could if you want to.
	Oh, you're recording it though, aren't you?
	Of course.
	So I can go look at it anytime I want.
	Yeah, of course.
	Don't need to do it now.
	We have a show to do.
	We have a show to do.
	And I think maybe we should just start off, John, by...
	Well, I don't know.
	Did you have breakfast yet?
	Why, are you going to make me throw up?
	Well, when you travel back and forth between universes, it can be a little complicated.
	Oh, we're going to do this right away?
	You know I get nauseous.
	Okay, then you start with something else.
	We'll go to that in a minute.
	No, no, no.
	Let's go do the universe.
	I can do it.
	Hold on, let me get a drink of some tea that will calm my stomach.
	I'll drink some coffee.
	I feel it's better when I move into the alternate room.
	Here we go!
	Are you ready?
	From this day forward, it's going to be only America first!
	America first! America first!
	America first!
	We choose God!
	Fuck you!
	See?
	It hurts, doesn't it?
	Where'd that dog come from?
	Well, the dog...
	See, dogs live in all universes simultaneously.
	Yeah, there's only one dog consciousness.
	There's just one dog.
	I've always said there's only one dog.
	There really is only one dog.
	Ah, man.
	So fun to see all the alternate universes and...
	People just recognizing it and saying it outright.
	Tim Kaine, almost Vice President of the United States.
	How's it going for you and Secretary Clinton these days?
	I mean, we think about it.
	Yeah, I do once in a while.
	I wonder, because I think you did a good job running.
	And, you know, the zeitgeist wasn't quite right.
	I think it had more to do with the zeitgeist.
	You did a good job running.
	You know what?
	You did a good job running.
	Good job running, my friend.
	Good job.
	And you know, the zeitgeist wasn't quite right.
	I think it had more to do with the zeitgeist than anything else.
	Just the mood of the country was against the inns and for the outcomes, at least in those states that matter.
	What's your feeling about that whole election just now?
	It seems kind of surreal, Chris.
	I wake up some mornings and it seems like the campaign was a dream and I wake up other mornings and thinking I must be living through some alternate reality now.
	So it was a magnificent experience.
	This is the reality, Senator.
	Just so you know, this is the reality.
	But more fun was Lena Dunham, who was doing the round.
	The last episode of her HBO show, the girls' show.
	Is it HBO? I think it's something else.
	I think it's HBO. It's on FX or CW or...
	No, I think it's...
	I don't care.
	I think it's HBO. So she's everywhere promoting this last episode, and of course she is an incredible SJW, social justice warrior.
	And I have another clip later on from her, but I thought we'd just get into this...
	What was this?
	I think this might have been on...
	It might have been on the Today Show.
	It's really important to remember that...
	And everything we find interesting about Millennials is in here.
	Important!
	Now she talks.
	It's really important to remember that it is an incredible problem that 53% of women in this country, 53% of white women in this country voted for Donald Trump.
	This is a big problem.
	Terrible problem.
	That's more...
	Which means that they're not only voting against the interests of their sisters, of women who may not look like them, who they may not understand, but whose rights are just as important.
	Important, important.
	Important, important.
	Like them, who they may not understand, but whose rights are just as important.
	But it's also remember that they are, in that case, voting against their own best interests.
	And to me, a part of feminism is, it's almost like being a parent to a teenager, where they're so mad at you, they think you're such a piece of crap, and you're like, I know you hate me right now, but I love you, and everything I'm doing is because I love you, and I want us all to be safe.
	Hold on a second, stop.
	Lena Dunham has a teenage daughter?
	Is that what she's saying?
	Well, that sounds like she's speaking from experience, the way she describes the situation.
	Crap, and you're like, I know you hate me right now, but I love you, and everything I'm doing is because I love you, and I want us all to be safe.
	But those women, in their defense, believe that he's going to bring back jobs, a lot of them, because they're voting for their husbands and their family.
	How do you respond to that?
	I think what's really hard is obviously it pains me as, you know, a Caucasian woman to think about how many women didn't think about women who looked different or had different life experiences than them.
	They didn't look outside their own backyard when they made the choice to vote for Donald Trump.
	But in their own backyard, there were no jobs.
	What I was going to say is that...
	But when they can't put food on the table, it's hard for them to see another perspective when they're clearing no money to pay for health care.
	Do you know what I'm saying?
	Well, I don't mean to...
	I'm sorry I interrupted you.
	I was raised not to do that.
	I'm sorry.
	I think it's really important.
	Of course I understand what you're saying.
	And I also think it's really important to understand that so many women aren't raised with the rhetoric of self-empowerment.
	And the messages that they're hearing from Donald Trump may be very similar to the messages they've always heard from their fathers, from their brothers, from their husbands.
	They haven't been given the message that...
	They do matter.
	And so while I think we have an incredible amount of work to do with enlightening those women, I also have sympathy for the societal structures that keep them from understanding what they need to keep themselves from.
	I have sympathy for the societal structures.
	She says, I have sympathy for the societal structures.
	How can you have sympathy for a structure?
	I heard that and I'm like, what the hell is she actually saying?
	She's just babbling.
	I have sympathy for the societal structures.
	Let's hear that again, that last bit.
	That was very odd.
	They're hearing from Donald Trump.
	Maybe very similar to the messages they've always heard from their fathers, from their brothers, from their husbands.
	Once again, F men.
	They haven't been given the message that...
	They do matter.
	And so while I think we have an incredible amount of work to do with enlightening those women, I also have sympathy for the societal structures that keep them from understanding what they need to keep themselves safe.
	The societal structures.
	First of all, she says she has sympathy for the societal structures that keep them from learning that or where some blather along those lines.
	Let's assume that the societal structure was actually an inanimate object that you could have sympathy for.
	Why would she have sympathy for it?
	It's keeping these women down.
	Yes.
	The logic that she just expressed is that she's sympathetic to keeping these women down.
	Yes.
	She's just blathering.
	That's the point.
	People love her.
	I love her.
	Considering the current administration, I mean, obviously, like everyone, I have so many concerns about everything ranging from, you know, xenophobia and, you know, the new way that America is treating immigrants who have always been such an essential part of our history, all the way to global warming.
	But for me, where my heart lies will always be in women's issues and making sure that women have access to safe and affordable reproductive care.
	I am so tired of these words.
	Safe and affordable reproductive care.
	Why can't we just say safe abortions?
	Are you afraid of offending somebody?
	Just say safe abortions.
	Safe and affordable reproductive care.
	Okay, cheap safe abortions then.
	That would be perfectly fine for me.
	No, it's not politically correct.
	It's newspeak.
	It's newspeak.
	Sure that women have access to safe and affordable reproductive care and making sure that no woman...
	Based on her economic status, gender assigned at birth, religion, or any aspect of who she is on a soul level is...
	John, can I ask you a question?
	Who are you on a soul level?
	For one thing, I need new heels, but I think the soul itself is in pretty good shape.
	Or any aspect of who she is on a soul level is denied the basic rights that we all deserve.
	Where did this alternate universe story come from?
	Came from the alternate universe.
	That's right.
	I have more, but I think I should hold it.
	You've been archiving these.
	Yeah, I have more from The View, but it's too early for The View.
	I can't do it right now.
	It's pretty nauseating.
	Yeah.
	Let's get back to our own time.
	All right, go.
	Oh, I have to get us back in.
	Oh, no, we're going in our own universe.
	Yeah, hold on.
	I got it.
	Well, let's get back into it.
	Are you ready?
	From this day forward, it's going to be only We choose God for you.
	I do want to mention, Kevin of the Luxembourg Bohemian Alliance wrote me a note, and he says, the term alternative universe, the reason why people are using it is because of the man in the high castle.
	Have you ever seen this show?
	I tried watching it when it first came out.
	I watched episode one and a little bit of episode two.
	It's unwatchable.
	It's unwatchable.
	I have not watched it.
	I know a lot of people like to watch it.
	I think it's unwatchable.
	It's tedious.
	It's dumb.
	It's unwatchable.
	Well, here's Kevin's deconstruction.
	The premise stinks, too, by the way.
	I have not watched it.
	I don't know what it's about.
	You won't like it.
	I'm going to, well, here's what he says.
	In a recent discussion with my sister on why liberals in the media keep making references to the alternate universe, my sister's quick response was the man in the high castle.
	This seems plausible because, number one, science fiction is quite popular with liberals.
	Number two.
	No.
	That's what he says.
	Most liberals likely have Amazon Prime.
	Possible.
	And most have likely watched at least the first episode of the series.
	John, seems like you fit right into that model.
	I tend to be a liberal.
	They view Trump as a fascist dictator.
	Put those two things together.
	If you've ever seen an episode of The Man in the High Castle, then you start to understand why people use the alternate universe.
	Well, I think it makes sense.
	Okay, well, I see.
	Meh.
	Meh?
	Yeah, meh.
	Meh.
	Okay, well, blow me away then, big man.
	Okay, well let's start with, since we're back in our universe, let's get right to it.
	Let's get right to the flu season and this flu report, CBS1. Flu season is reaching its peak with the virus now widespread in 43 states.
	More than 38,000 cases have been confirmed so far.
	Here's Dr.
	John LaPook.
	With a quarter of the student body in Clarkton, Missouri homesick with the flu, school officials decided to park the buses and close the doors.
	We were dropping like flies, so we had about 70 kids out.
	That's a first for Superintendent Delane Beckwith.
	Friday I was hurting and got home Friday night, sick all day Saturday.
	Missouri is one of 23 states with high activity this season, and we've seen a total of 20 flu-related deaths in children.
	I'm sick.
	On Long Island near New York City, Nassau University Medical Center...
	Great edit, by the way.
	That's great.
	You should have ISO'd that.
	I did.
	Oh, wait.
	Where is it?
	Oh.
	Aw, you good man.
	I'm sick.
	...in children.
	I'm sick.
	On Long Island near New York City, Nassau University Medical Center's Pediatric Emergency Room is now open 24-7 to deal with an influx of flu.
	This season we're seeing a lot of the H3 virus, so this is the one where people get very sick and it normally affects elderly people, children, and pregnant women.
	Dr.
	Ben De La Rosa of Holy Name Medical Center in New Jersey says his emergency room has been busy.
	We're right around the time where you would see a peak.
	This is forward for me.
	Audrey Fagnano began to have symptoms after a co-worker was diagnosed with the flu.
	I felt like I was going to faint and I couldn't stay awake.
	She tested negative for flu, but says now she plans to get the vaccine.
	Oh yeah.
	After you already had the flu.
	Okay, let's go.
	Let's stop.
	I stopped it right there in the report.
	Okay.
	Let's deconstruct a little bit of what CBS is doing here.
	They found some woman who didn't have the flu Yes.
	She's in a sickbed.
	She's in the hospital laying down.
	She looks like crap, this is the visual.
	She's laying on her side and she's complaining that somebody had the flu so she got something and she got dizzy and she couldn't, now she can't wake up.
	She's falling asleep.
	She probably has encephalitis.
	Nobody cares about that.
	She's laying there and then they say, then they, in other words, there's all these cases of the flu but they can't find anybody with the flu so they find this woman.
	Some just random woman who happens to be in the hospital, and then they gloss it over by really rapidly saying, oh, she didn't have the flu, by the way, but she's going to get the shot.
	What kind of a report is this?
	Yeah, it's no good.
	It's no good.
	But it's promotion, obviously.
	It's promotion to get the flu shot.
	I was aghast at the fact that they'd have some woman bitching and moaning about flu-like symptoms who didn't have the flu.
	So let's just finish it off.
	Part two is just a wrap.
	It just comes up as a flu report.
	I have it for you right here.
	I'm sick.
	But says now she plans to get the vaccine.
	Here in Illinois, there's been an uptick in flu activity over the past week, with 43 people admitted to intensive care units.
	The CDC says this year's flu vaccine is a good match against this year's flu virus, and 145 million doses have been shipped out.
	John LaPook.
	Thanks, doctor.
	Ah, I miss those days.
	Why can't we just bring swine flu back?
	That was more fun.
	Oh, they will.
	Don't worry about it.
	That was more fun.
	It's definitely going to happen.
	It didn't work that time, though.
	They got the kinks ironed out.
	What kind of a report?
	Do they just find some random person and then they say...
	Unbelievable.
	This is the worst.
	CBS, which I'm following closely, there's one thing after another with them.
	You're kind of brain dead when you're watching these news reports.
	Oh, that poor woman.
	And then they say, oh, she didn't have...
	That's nice.
	Oh, she didn't get a shot.
	That's good.
	I'll get one, too.
	I don't understand the mechanism here they're trying to exploit, but it's disgusting.
	I got a clip late this morning, which really kind of blew me away, from the spokeswoman from By Any Means Necessary, Which is an organization that has a website, but doesn't have it.
	And as far as I can tell, it's not a non-profit.
	They don't even have an About Us page.
	I know.
	The woman's name is Yvette Falarka, I think.
	And Yvette Falarka is a middle school teacher in the Berkeley area.
	And she was an active participant in the UC Berkeley riots recently when Milo was there.
	And, yeah, I could have put this in the alternate universe, really, but it's more kind of like, wow, this woman is just so convicted and so incredibly off the rails.
	Is she a Cal student?
	I don't know.
	Well, she's no longer a student.
	What would she be doing at this whole thing?
	She's an activist.
	She is in charge of By Any Means Necessary, also known as BAMN.com.
	Okay.
	And she sat down, and the first thing, of course, we need to talk about is her feelings about Milo, because this is why she needed to do this.
	She needed to spawn on this protest.
	She hates gays?
	Well, she specifically hates gays who have sex with black men.
	Although she says it in a very funny manner.
	She is kind of like a multi-culti.
	I'd say she's brown-Asian kind of mixture.
	Here we go.
	First of all, tell me, what specifically is it about Milo Yiannopoulos that you and others have an issue with?
	Well, first of all, Milo Yiannopoulos is a fascist.
	He's a member of the fascisti?
	He is a fascist.
	The Italian organization that was, I think, disbanded sometime in the 40s?
	What do you think she means when she says a fascist?
	I think she means she's a member of the fascisti from Italy.
	But seriously, what do you think she believes?
	Oh, you mean just in the general term?
	Yeah.
	Like, you know, that means you're for Trump.
	Yeah.
	There you go.
	He's a white supremacist.
	He's a white supremacist, which is why he has sex with black men, because then, of course, he only tops them, I guess.
	That must be it.
	He's funded by Steve Bannon and Breitbart.
	He works at Breitbart.
	He's funded by Steve.
	I'd like to get some funding.
	That'd be nice.
	He's an accolite.
	He's a fascist.
	He's a white supremacist.
	He's funded by Steve Bannon and Breitbart.
	He's an accolite of Donald Trump.
	And he was on the UC Berkeley campus to try to recruit more fascists.
	He was always there to recruit fascists.
	He had a sign-up sheet.
	Didn't you see it?
	This woman teaches school?
	Middle school, yeah.
	Oh, brother.
	And I looked her up.
	You know, Berkley side, which is some blog or something out there.
	She's been put on a mini...
	Berkley side is a good operation.
	It's all lefties, but it's a good local news source.
	It's one of the best in the country.
	Oh, good.
	Well, she shows up a lot in that.
	The Berkley school district is priced on administrative leave because she's a troublemaker.
	She's a big troublemaker.
	And obviously, she's getting money from somewhere if she can just do all this, I think.
	You never know.
	Last bit here.
	I wouldn't guarantee that.
	Well, yeah, she could just be completely off her rocker.
	...of Donald Trump.
	And he was on the UC Berkeley campus to try to recruit more fascists and to wage attacks on Muslim students, immigrant students, women, and trans students.
	Okay, so he was there to recruit more fascists and wage attacks.
	I mean, I could bring Milo down with...
	I could bring Milo down!
	Just me!
	Come on!
	That's ridiculous.
	Alright.
	She continues.
	This was a really fantastic interview.
	More fear about Milo.
	What is the real fear of him having a conversation with the 500 students or the 500 people who had bought tickets to the event?
	Yeah, I'm a little disappointed she didn't say that.
	He was going to give a speech, wasn't he?
	That's a conversation.
	Yeah, it was a speech.
	I don't see a speech in the conversation being the same thing, but okay.
	The 500 people who had bought tickets to the event.
	Well, just to go back to how you characterized the protest, this isn't a question of violent versus peaceful protests.
	I was there, and there were thousands of people out there who were united.
	It was a mass protest.
	It was a militant protest.
	Militant protests, which is what she's all about.
	And everyone was there to shut them down.
	And so whatever it was going to take to do that, we were all there with a united cause and we were stunningly successful.
	But why not be peaceful about it?
	Why not, you know, chant and hold your signs and things?
	But when you take the barricades and you destroy the building and when you set fires, isn't that counterproductive?
	I think that the left has been far too timid for way too long.
	Oh, we need more!
	And it's why we've even gotten in this position, where we even have someone like Donald Trump leading a fascist movement.
	Can I sign up for this?
	Is there a sign-up sheet somewhere?
	This woman should be arrested.
	She's already admitted to being part of that mess.
	Oh, it gets better.
	As the President of the United States, we need to make sure that we have more mass protests, more militant protests.
	Okay!
	Is she not calling for violence?
	Or is militant protest not really called?
	I think it's a bit borderline.
	Yeah, it's just dressing up badass.
	The black bloc is what it's called, by the way.
	Black with a six K. More militant protests that are mass and militant.
	And the reality is that these aren't people just putting forward their ideas.
	There's white supremacists who've already murdered six Muslims just five days ago in Quebec.
	Is that what happened?
	She's saying that Let me just listen to that again.
	Well, she uses the word plural.
	I thought it was one guy.
	It was just kind of...
	Maybe she's confused.
	Yeah, black bloc.
	Yeah, thank you.
	Subbase.
	Muslims just five days ago in Quebec.
	Back, back, back, back, back, back.
	I'm going back, I'm going back.
	Here we go.
	Already murdered...
	More back.
	More back.
	Just putting forward their ideas.
	There's white supremacists who've already murdered six Muslims just five days ago in Quebec.
	I thought maybe I misunderstand what happened in Quebec.
	Were there white supremacists who killed Muslims?
	There's a guy who killed some Muslims that were in there.
	There was a woman in Korea, or not from Korea, but who was from Korea in Los Angeles who was just beaten down by a white supremacist.
	We have a right to defend ourselves, and not only a right, we have an obligation to do that.
	Okay, so she's getting feisty.
	Yeah?
	Some woman was beaten down by white supremacists?
	Wasn't it just Korean?
	Crazy that would happen.
	Was it the police?
	He does feel the protest was very effective.
	Some say that because of what happened at the protest, this got national attention, he did national interviews, and so instead of his voice being heard by 500 people, now millions of people are online googling Milo Yiannopoulos.
	So does that defeat a little bit of what you were trying to do?
	The right wing and the fascists in this country already have a spokesperson and they've already found one in Trump, Steve Bannon, and also now Milo.
	But now what I think was so important about our success on Wednesday, which is why it should be the model for how the movement needs to take things now in the future.
	Oh, it's a model.
	Because, let me finish, is because...
	Oh, did you hear that?
	Yeah, let me finish.
	Oh, what a douche!
	Yeah, because...
	Let me finish.
	It's because we need to make sure that the millions of people out there who are angry and who are scared under Donald Trump and everything that he's doing now know that there are people out there who will stand up and fight the way the movement needs to.
	Clearly, Wednesday was not business as usual.
	It was people fighting united in a mass effort, in a united effort, And by any means necessary.
	Yeah, by any means necessary.
	Which, by any means necessary is a term, I think, recently used by Dr.
	Martin Luther King?
	That I know of.
	Yeah, I think so.
	I think so.
	I wrote it down somewhere.
	I'm pretty sure that that's some term.
	Well, now we have to look.
	Yeah, yeah.
	We might have to do a little consultation.
	Yeah.
	Something that Stalin would say.
	It originated much earlier, and I don't know why I can't find it at this moment.
	Okay.
	Wikipedia.
	Wikipedia's got a whole thing.
	Yeah.
	And while you...
	The translation of a phrase by French intellectual Jean-Paul Sartre in his play Dirty Hands.
	It entered the popular civil rights culture through a speech given by Malcolm X. Ah!
	Militants at the Organization of Afro-American Unity founding rally in June 1964 is generally considered to leave open all available tactics for the desired ends, including violence.
	However, the necessary qualifier adds a caveat.
	If violence is not necessarily, not necessary, that's what this woman could have called her out on.
	If violence is not necessary, then presumably it should not be used.
	Presumably, yeah.
	Wikipedia.
	Now that they've banned the Daily Mail, we get good stuff here.
	Yeah, finally.
	Last clip here, of course, who was really to blame for all this?
	Chancellor Dirks is responsible for anything that happened.
	And if the business community is upset, they should join the professors and students and community members who are demanding that Dirks step down immediately.
	Because he had a chance to cancel the event to make sure it didn't happen.
	There were hundreds of professors who demanded that for safety reasons.
	Safety reasons.
	It doesn't make sense.
	He didn't listen.
	One.
	Two, a few broken windows is nothing compared to the lives that are at stake.
	And if that's what it takes in order to make sure that more people don't get targeted, if that's what it takes to make sure that Milo Yiannopoulos or another white supremacist is not welcome or allowed to come to UC Berkeley and attack our community, then good.
	Let's make sure then that that doesn't happen in the future.
	So no regrets at all about what took place.
	You know, what I think what we need to do is we've got to draw lessons from this in terms of how we can build and build even stronger.
	Teacher?
	Yes, yes, middle school teacher.
	He teaches like middle school.
	Yes, like middle school teacher.
	Can you imagine what the kids come out like?
	Brainwashed.
	Brainwashed.
	All the parents of these kids should be very aware of this woman being at whatever school she's at.
	Ten more seconds.
	This, in terms of how we can build and build even stronger, how we can make sure that we build the movement, and also that we continue to organize, because it's not spontaneous.
	This is about organizing and fighting by any means necessary.
	There you go.
	any means necessary.
	Yeah.
	But I give her a douchebag.
	If I had the button right there, I'd be douchebag!
	Yeah, the thing is, what bugs me is that not once in this whole interview did anyone say, you know, you call him a fascist and he hates transgender and gays.
	But she actually didn't say gays, she said transgenders.
	But he's gay and has a penchant for black men by his own admission.
	I don't know this out of any experience, but still, you know, it's like, it just doesn't make sense.
	No.
	But that's beside the point.
	These guys are out of control.
	Yeah.
	So keep an eye on by any means necessary.
	I'm certainly keeping an eye on them.
	We'll never hear them again.
	I think you're very wrong.
	You look at that website later, you'll see they've got plans, scripts, all kinds of stuff.
	Mm-hmm.
	So I'm watching stuff.
	Today, for me, is mostly deconstructing all kinds of crazy stories.
	Oh, good.
	And, like, I have a long series here.
	These are actually a series of shorter clips, but they're pieced together so I can bitch and moan as I deconstruct the Frank saga.
	Because you brought this to mind on the last show with the discussion of the...
	Of the immigration scam.
	Yeah, which I have a little more on today.
	Yes, of course.
	Oh, you do, because I have this guy, Zach Iskell, who came on Andrea Mitchell's show, and she's trying to get a guy named Frank, or he is, he's trying to get a guy named, just Frank, Frank guy, a guy named Frank, into the country, and it turns out that he's an ex-Marine who was over in Iraq, and he is now...
	Board member of the International Refugee Assistance Project.
	And he's also the head of the Headstrong Project to help refugees.
	And I'm thinking, so this is just a promotion for him.
	Yeah, for the first vlog.
	So they have decided to bring this, because everything now has to be a story.
	This story thing came into play some time ago, and I think it was super popularized when...
	Peter Guber wrote the book Storytelling about how businessmen, if they want to get their point across, they want to tell a story.
	And you hear a lot of memes about this.
	Oh, it's got to be a story.
	If you tell a story, then people will relate to it better instead of, you know, okay, well, I think a lot of people do that naturally, but not everybody's a storyteller.
	This guy is.
	So this guy and his buddy Frank, who he's trying to get into the country, is concerned about the Trump situation, and now poor Frank is stuck At least that's kind of the premise He is stuck Well, among those relieved today with the court decision to suspend President Trump's travel ban is a former U.S. Marine officer who did two tours in Iraq.
	A former Marine captain, Zak Iskol, wrote in an op-ed with the New York Times that Iraqi interpreters were his platoon's lifeline when he fought overseas.
	One Iraqi he calls Frank was wounded helping U.S. soldiers retake Fallujah.
	Iskol says that with the stroke of a pen, President Trump dashed Frank's plans to escape from Iraq.
	After six years of vetting, he and his family had just been approved for visas, excuse me, when that executive order was signed.
	Zach Isco joins me now.
	He's currently on the board of the International Refugee Assistance Project.
	Zach, thank you very much for being with us.
	Yeah, thanks so much for having me.
	Is there an update since the temporary lifting of the ban?
	Has the interpreter you call Frank, has he gotten out of Iraq?
	He's still in Iraq, but in the last week, it looks like his case is again being moved forward.
	So back in December or November, we received a message that he had been approved to come to the U.S. My wife and I started to prepare our bedroom for him and his wife's arrival, and we have an 18-month-old and one on the way.
	Human interest story.
	Let's start with a couple things.
	Hold on, one question.
	Wasn't there a movie about something like this, something similar?
	About a translator, and he couldn't get back.
	I think there was some Hollywood thing about this.
	Yeah, I think you're right, because I do remember something like that.
	Okay, first of all, let's start with this guy, Frank, who they did put a picture up.
	The guy's 80 if he's a day.
	And he's a size 16 if he's an ounce.
	He is old.
	And, I mean, he's old.
	I mean, maybe he's just shopworn, but he's old.
	He's got a white mustache.
	He's got a, you know, he looks like he's got a wrinkly old face.
	He's probably, I'm guessing...
	Between 55 and 75.
	And that's the only leeway I can give him.
	So the likelihood of having a newborn and an 18-month...
	Seems a little unlikely.
	Yeah, seems a little unlikely.
	He's got one on the way and he's got an 18-month-old.
	So he works fast.
	How old is his wife?
	I guess she's a spring chicken.
	I have no idea.
	But the way they also present is, oh, you know, this was terrible.
	But if you actually listen to what he says, he says, yeah, well, it's still moving forward.
	He's got to get his medical checkup.
	He hasn't been denied anything.
	No, he hasn't been denied anything, but the way they present it is as though, oh, my God.
	He put his life on the line for us.
	Oh!
	And he hasn't been denied anything, and the guy says to him, but the way they slip it in is very subtle.
	It's like, well, now he's moving forward.
	Let me stop you there.
	Do you think they're really slipping it in in a subtle way, or are they just in total belief of this because they just see information interpreted differently?
	Then they can't be doing it on purpose.
	The information is, he's actually still in the process, and the way their brain processes it is, oh, this is horrible!
	Yeah, because of Trump.
	Yes, Trump.
	And meanwhile, of course, then we have to see this guy, and the nonsense about the baby and all the rest is just crazy.
	It seems to me, I could be wrong, maybe he's like Anthony Quinn.
	I mean, it's possible.
	That's a reference.
	I actually understood that one.
	Okay, Frank Saga 2.
	Rival, and they have an 18-month-old and one on the way.
	And then all this happened, and about a week ago we found out that his case was moving forward and that he should be getting prepared for a medical screening, which is the next step in the process.
	So we'll see what happens at this stage, but at least the court ruling gives us some hope.
	Zach, what would you tell Donald Trump and his advisors who are saying that there is a real national security threat from these seven countries, and they point to President Obama in Congress for having isolated these countries as dangerous transit points.
	What would you say to them about the impact on refugees, on people like your former interpreter and others who are caught up in all this?
	It's a great question.
	It's not a great question.
	It's not a great question.
	If you go, play just the very beginning of that clip again, because they say, oh, now it's, you know, this thing is what happened.
	It's moving forward.
	There's nothing that has changed in this story.
	Play just the beginning once again.
	Rival, and they have an 18-month-old and one on the way.
	And then all this happened.
	And about a week ago, we found out that his case was moving forward.
	Okay, stop.
	Yeah, his case is moving forward.
	All this happened.
	Yeah.
	All this happened, and his case is moving forward.
	It's a non-story.
	It's completely contradictory.
	It's presented as though all hell's broken loose, but he himself...
	These kinds of stories.
	And this is MSNBC, which is laced with this sort of thing.
	Oh, can I do just a little entremant?
	MSNBC entremant?
	Rachel Maddow, just so you can...
	This is an ISO. Okay.
	It wasn't ISO. What happened?
	It was an anticlimactic ISO. Yeah, that really blew.
	Hold on, why isn't that working?
	We do not give a flying, flipping, freaking, fruitcake ficus fjord.
	We do not give any Fs.
	Brother.
	Okay, now here's another one that kind of got my attention.
	This is clip three.
	People like your former interpreter and others who are caught up in all this.
	It's a great question.
	I mean, I think one of the arguments that they are making is that these are countries that don't have databases and don't have control of their population.
	And so you have concern that somebody is trying to come to this country.
	They are not who they say they are.
	My response to that would be that, especially with folks who have served as translators for the US military, we know exactly who they are.
	I mean, Frank is somebody who served with me for five months in combat.
	He was shot assaulting a building with my platoon.
	He has numerous letters of recommendations from military officers.
	He served our country honorably, wore our Marine Corps uniform in combat, something that very few Americans do today.
	That's why he's being let in.
	That's why the process is moving along, isn't it?
	It is moving along, so I don't know what his bitch is.
	But that little ditty at the end, I had to stop it.
	He wore the Marine uniform.
	Can you wear a Marine uniform if you're not a Marine?
	Can't you just wear regular fatigues?
	But he wore the Marine uniform and then he says, this guy, he says something very few Americans do nowadays.
	What do they wear?
	What does this mean?
	Camo pants.
	We wear camo pants.
	We wear Lululemon.
	We wear Lululemon.
	This comes into play again later.
	He says it again.
	That he wore the Marine uniform, which means we have to bring him in.
	I guess, because some little kid just puts a Marine uniform on.
	Hey, I have to go to America now.
	Yeah, that's the implication.
	He wore the Marine uniform, something very few Americans do.
	What is he talking about?
	We need a Marine who listens to the show.
	Explain this.
	Can you wear a Marine uniform if you're not a Marine?
	And why don't Marines wear the uniform?
	I understand your questioning.
	Let me just listen to that last bit again that he said.
	He has numerous letters of recommendations from military officers.
	He served our country honorably, wore our Marine Corps uniform in combat, something that very few Americans do today.
	Yeah, so I think you understand what he's saying as well.
	You just like interpreting it differently for the show's sake.
	But first of all, I do not think he wore a Marine uniform.
	He probably had fatigues on.
	I am not interpreting it.
	I'm just repeating what he said.
	What he's saying is that not a lot of...
	I believe his interpretation...
	What he's trying to say is...
	See?
	Brown people care more about our country than you do, Whitey.
	So let him in.
	I think that's what he's saying.
	No.
	Yes!
	That's exactly what he's saying.
	Well, that's disgusting.
	If that's true, your interpretation is completely crazy.
	Well, I'm in the other universe at the moment.
	Hello?
	Hello?
	Alright, so now we got that out of the way, and some Marine will help us with this.
	Yes.
	And again, the process is moving along swimmingly, but this is like a big scandal.
	So let's go to clip four.
	Our Marine Corps uniform in combat, something that very few Americans do today.
	And on the other side of it, in terms of refugees, I mean, I think it shows a complete ignorance of how the refugee resettlement process works.
	I mean, if you are a refugee in Syria, you don't just decide you're going to move to the U.S.
	That's not the way this process works.
	The way it works is you apply to the United Nations for resettlement.
	The United Nations then decides what country they are going to try and resettle you in.
	So if you are a ISIS fighter who is trying to get to the U.S., the refugee resettlement process is probably the worst way of getting to the U.S. because there's no guarantee as to where you are going to end up outside of where you are leaving.
	Well, that's interesting.
	I don't know.
	That's an interesting little ditty there.
	For it is the beginning of the immigration scam that starts with the United Nations.
	What does he want?
	Does he want us to go back to us choosing ourselves?
	Which I would be all for, actually.
	I would assume that Frank has been chosen.
	Frank didn't go to the UN. I doubt it.
	He doesn't explain any of that to us.
	He brings in this vetting process for the would-be ISIS guy who wants to do something bad, which, again, sounds like he's part of the refugee system, this guy, and he's somehow a profiteer.
	Well, whenever you talk resettlement...
	He also says it shows ignorance.
	It shows ignorance by whom?
	This was not...
	Part of the discussion that he's having with Andrea.
	He just throws this in.
	And how does it show ignorance with this guy, Frank, who seems to be going along the process just fine, although they're making it scary.
	And how is it showing any ignorance with him?
	Did he go to the UN? There's no evidence of that.
	No, not that I know of.
	He's got all these letters of recommendation.
	He's going straight into the country.
	Hmm.
	So we're getting really mixed information here, onward.
	Outside of where you were leaving.
	Now, you quote, in fact, General John Kelly, who now is Homeland Security Secretary, as telling you back in the day in 2007 when you were fighting, as you were discussing, and maybe it's the same interpreter, and you say you'll never forget his words that...
	Wait a minute!
	2007?
	Yes.
	This is a long...
	2007?
	Yeah, this guy's been there for a while.
	Yeah.
	But this all happened in 2007?
	I'm a little confused.
	No, no, no, no.
	This is all happening now.
	For some reason, Andrea decides to do a flashback.
	Ah, okay.
	Because she wants to...
	Here's the reason.
	This is because John Kelly, who was the Homeland Security guy chosen by Trump, was at some point, we think, not verified.
	The commanding officer of this character here that we're listening to.
	Ah, okay.
	So let's put a Kelly thing in there to give it a little more...
	Even though this swimmingly, Frank is going through the system with his little kids, swimmingly, there is...
	I'm using that word a lot, but this is what it sounds like.
	He's going right through the process like grease through a duck.
	Going right through...
	But for some reason, we have to bring in this other stuff, and now we're going to bring in John Kelly, Trump's man, for some unknown reason.
	Let's see what that reason is.
	John Kelly, who now is Homeland Security Secretary, is telling you back in the day in 2007 when you were fighting, as you were discussing, and maybe it's the same interpreter, and you say you'll never forget his words that your interpreter had warned the Marine Corps uniform in combat and we had an obligation to keep him safe.
	Yeah, so I had a wonderful translator named Abouda Kafaji who came to the U.S. I testified in 2007 on active duty before the United States Senate on the need to protect refugees.
	It's kind of amazing that now, ten years later, we're still dealing with these issues, three administrations later.
	And before I testified, I had to meet with General John Kelly, who at the time was the Marine Corps' liaison to Congress.
	And on one hand, his job was to make sure I was not going to embarrass the Marine Corps as a young captain who's going in front of the Senate.
	But he also said to me that Abood was somebody who wore the Marine Corps uniform in combat, and that meant something, and we had an obligation to safeguard him and his family.
	Again with his uniform.
	So you wear the Marine Corps uniform in combat.
	He always says, you know, a clause, a subclause, always in combat.
	Well, these guys are in combat.
	That's the real deal.
	Yeah, but he specifically says that to make sure that it's, you know, I guess you're supposed to think the guy's dodging bullets, and he probably is.
	Now, because you did that, and I don't know why you have to wear the Marine Corps uniform for this to apply.
	Either you're helping us or you're not.
	But okay, you're wearing the Marine Corps uniform for some reason.
	Maybe you don't have other clothes, or it seems like you're the same size as somebody else.
	So now that you've worn this, and this is according to Kelly, we're obligated, the country is obligated to protect him and his family.
	Because of the uniform.
	Yes.
	I understand.
	Well...
	He's not in the Marines to begin with.
	I will say it again.
	I'll just say it again.
	This is brainwashing, and the idea is, hey, he puts on the uniform.
	You whitey at home, you didn't do that.
	So he's better than you.
	He deserves to live here.
	More than you, actually!
	I think that's what he's saying.
	I know.
	That's what you're thinking.
	And you might...
	It's a convincing argument considering the universe split, but let's finish this off.
	This last clip is two seconds?
	Yeah.
	Are they expected to hold a joint?
	No, that was it.
	That's it.
	Oh, I must have misclipped it.
	Okay, well there wasn't anything in the last part anyway that was important.
	You reverse clipped it.
	You threw the good part on the cutting room floor and left him with the bit.
	Yeah, that happens.
	That's okay.
	Shorten the hole.
	Shorten the gag.
	The point is that there's nothing wrong...
	Nothing bad, but they produce a whole – this went on for five minutes – a whole segment, an interview with a guy as if bad things are happening, and there's no evidence of that even by this guy's own admission, but it's presented – To you as though this is all bad.
	And with the kind of the onerous way it's...
	You know, this is a great example of MSNBC almost presenting good news as bad news.
	As bad news.
	With the number of insults thrown in the way you see it.
	Yeah, totally the way I see it.
	What interests me is the complete...
	Just ignoring what is happening with other countries who are having immigration issues, particularly as it pertains to terrorism, I think it's pretty fair to say that the European Union has had its pretty fair share of bad things happen with migrants from, in some cases, the places that Obama chose to...
	Rubble eyes.
	Rubble eyes, exactly.
	Quick Euronews report regarding...
	And by the way, before you drop the topic...
	Well, no, it's the same topic.
	It's about the travel ban.
	It's the same topic.
	Okay, but before you drop the point where you were at...
	How does the UN account for all these people that came over on boats or snuck around or came down through Finland or Norway?
	That's exactly what this report is about.
	The EU's foreign policy chief has defended a deal to finance migrant camps in Libya.
	It's part of a move to stem immigration from Africa.
	When the UNHCR manages to operate in a centre and then identifies someone as someone in need and having the right to international protection, then the UNHCR starts a resettlement programme and those persons are resettled, being it in Europe, being it in Canada or in the United States, I don't know, or elsewhere in the world.
	The EU wants to help Libya's Coast Guard stop migrants leaving in the first place.
	Leaders also pledged to help the country protect its southern border.
	Libya has been ravaged by conflicts since the fall of Muammar Gaddafi in 2011.
	The UN-backed government doesn't control all of the country.
	There's a rival administration in the east.
	And the so-called Islamic State also operates inside Libya.
	So the European Union is doing a lot of things.
	So they want to stop them from even getting on the boat.
	That's the idea.
	Now, you would think that the United Nations was taking care of all that.
	Don't they also have blue helmets?
	Can't they be processing people and pointing a gun at them at the same time?
	You'd think, or just pooping around so they can get everyone to call, or that would slow things down.
	But this whole, and of course your MSNBC clips are a part of this immigration conversation, and it's just that everyone's just gone completely stupid.
	We heard Bill Clinton in 1996.
	A lot of people have sent me this one.
	We'll go back to 2005, then-Senator Obama.
	We all agree on the need to better secure the border and to punish employers who choose to hire illegal immigrants.
	You know, we are a generous and welcoming people here in the United States, but those who enter the country illegally and those who employ them disrespect the rule of law.
	And they are showing disregard for those who are following the law.
	We simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented, unchecked.
	and circumventing the line of people who are waiting patiently, diligently and lawfully to become immigrants in this country.
	So, that's why we need to start by giving agencies charged with border security new technology, new facilities and more people to stop, process and deport illegal immigrants.
	Now, it doesn't sound like that's very different, other than...
	I don't see it.
	Well, the thing that's different is...
	What does his teacher in Berkeley think?
	What's different about...
	First of all, President Obama says illegal immigrants, doesn't say illegal aliens, so the guy is very smart.
	Very, very smart.
	He knows what to say and what not to say.
	But also, you know, he immediately...
	And I would like to see an audit of all this great stuff.
	We paid for it.
	The taxpayers paid for this electronic surveillance and drones and everything.
	And it's apparently not working.
	But that's what he wanted.
	Not anything physical.
	Let's go back to...
	Let's come back to now.
	Painful.
	You know, you can't do that more than a couple times a show or it actually changes your molecular structure.
	It's not good for you.
	You leave pieces of you behind.
	Only going back a year, though, I guess is okay.
	Here's a little piece with Judy Woodruff, PBS. With the meme that has been very interesting to me, first it started with, these are seven predominantly Muslim nations.
	That was meme number one.
	Meme number two is, no one, no terrorist attack ever came from anyone from these restricted countries.
	Yes.
	Let's listen to this.
	The reason these seven countries, which were identified by the Obama administration, are listed is because we have a hard time corroborating the veracity of people's claims coming from those countries.
	Those countries in particular, we have a hard time discerning who exactly these people are that are coming into the country.
	That is why it's totally reasonable and rational to have a pause in this program so that we can update and upgrade our vetting standards so that we can be better secure to make sure that we don't have somebody trying to infiltrate the network.
	But there haven't been terrorist incidents perpetrated by people from these countries.
	From these countries or through the refugee population?
	From these countries, absolutely.
	From the refugee population.
	But the point is, we now know that ISIS is trying to infiltrate refugee populations.
	That's intelligence that's already been unclassified.
	So this meme just continues.
	And it morphs around.
	One is, well, I meant there wasn't any refugee who had ever done that.
	And my favorite, Angela Rye on CNN, who is now full-time at CNN. She's gone full retard.
	That's with three E's, by the way.
	Retard.
	It's a Reddit joke.
	She luckily gets...
	Butt slammed by, what's her name, Kayleigh McEnany, who was also always on CNN, her full-time job.
	And then listen to Angela Rye backpedal into trying to fit this meme into what she's saying.
	I think the other real challenge you have is in this particular executive order, the countries that he's banning, there has not been a single attack on U.S. soil by anyone from those countries from the 70s to 2015.
	That's a fact.
	It's true, Somalia.
	There were three knife attacks last year.
	No, but this is about foreign nationals.
	So we were talking about foreign nationals.
	No one was killed.
	Somali refugees, 25 were wounded, though.
	No one was killed.
	Oh, no one was killed.
	It's different when they're not killed.
	Okay.
	On American soil.
	I'm not saying that we should undermine that, but I do think that if we're going to use 9-11 as the bait, then we should talk about the 9-11 country.
	She said the bait or the base?
	It sounded like she said the bait.
	She tried to say base, but it came out as base.
	I do think that we should...
	If we're going to use 9-11 as debate, then we should talk about...
	Oh, as debate?
	As debate?
	As debate?
	Then we should talk about the 9-11...
	What is she saying?
	Let's listen.
	Let's try one more time.
	Then we should talk about the 9-11 countries.
	Oh, shoot.
	I missed it.
	One more time.
	Why not?
	I'm not saying that we should undermine that, but I do think that we should...
	If we're going to use 9-11 as debate, then we should talk about the 9-11 countries.
	She's saying debate.
	I'm hearing debate.
	Well, I think she's saying if we're going to use 9-11 debate.
	Okay.
	She's just not erudite.
	No.
	All right.
	Um...
	So that is completely debunkable.
	Go to SnopesForSnopes.com to find out more about that.
	But the mind control is really in full effect.
	Here is...
	Oh, this was great.
	This was very funny.
	Just listen to it.
	One of the president's recent orders prioritizes the deportation of illegal immigrants...
	Who have committed crimes.
	Well, Carter Evans found a woman caught by this order who had been allowed to remain in Phoenix under President Obama's immigration policy.
	A crowd of angry protesters tried to prevent Guadalupe Garcia de Reyes from being deported.
	One even tied himself to the police van.
	But it was futile.
	Activist Carlos Garcia delivered the news.
	She has been deported.
	And this has been one of the first victims of President Trump.
	In Arizona, an undocumented woman at the center of an immigration uproar has now been deported.
	After 21 years living in the U.S., she was arrested yesterday and shipped back to Mexico today.
	Now the family she leaves behind is voicing their outrage and pointing fingers at the president.
	NBC's Gotti Schwartz has details.
	Shame on you!
	Emotions erupting in front of a Phoenix ICE office.
	Protesters trying to stop a van carrying 36-year-old Guadalupe Garcia De Rios, who is being deported to Mexico.
	This man over here that you're going to see, he wedged himself inside of this wheel well.
	Next to De Rios' window, her two American-born children struggling to stay strong for their mother.
	Damn it.
	The first victim of deportation, John.
	Well, you know, there was a bunch of this action in California.
	In Austin as well, by the way.
	Yes, Austin.
	You know where they pick him up?
	You know where they pick him up?
	Right in front of your place?
	No, no.
	It's the easiest.
	It's so, so easy.
	At lunchtime, they just go to the gas station.
	No, they go to the gas station.
	That's where all of them go and they get lunch and they get their scratch-off lotto tickets.
	Oh.
	And I'm not joking.
	It's the truth.
	And that's where they're picking him up.
	And it's a lot right now.
	A lot of what's going on.
	According to the research that's been done by some real reporting, they say this whole operation, which was nationwide, was planned long before Trump got in office.
	That's correct.
	Yes, that's right.
	And I think a lot of it had to do with they probably planned it, thinking that it probably really went into full steam when Trump got elected right after the election.
	Because now they say, well, now we don't have to deal with the backlash from the Obama administration, and we'll just get this thing going, and then we'll be able to do this by mid-February.
	But it's okay, let's just blame Trump for the whole thing.
	And I think I have, do I have a report on this?
	I think I have another network report, maybe.
	Something I figured you'd be doing.
	Because I saw the thing happening in Austin.
	While you're looking, here is NBC's Nicole Wallace.
	She went to Pennsylvania and spoke to a two-time Obama voter who wound up voting for Donald Trump.
	Do you think we should be banning people from countries that haven't launched any attacks against the United States?
	There we go again.
	I think that they ought to stop everybody from coming in.
	Just let the country breathe and take a step back and figure out what's going on.
	You don't think that's un-American in the Statue of Liberty?
	No.
	You know, Statue of Liberty.
	I'm just going to use that all the time.
	You know, Statue of Liberty.
	You know, Statue of Liberty.
	How is any of this un-American?
	We've stopped, oftentimes, and we're supposed to be at a, you know, one of the times that we do this severely, we cut things off, is during a war.
	I mean, World War II. We're at war.
	You weren't letting anybody.
	And supposedly, we're at a war on terror that Obama's behind and Bush is behind.
	And, you know, the Congress is, I don't know.
	But this is what I don't understand.
	This is a war.
	We can stop everybody from coming in.
	How's that on America?
	We're trying to protect the country because we're at war.
	I just don't understand when you see story after story of bad things happening in the European Union.
	And, I mean, we're like...
	That's not happening.
	I don't see that.
	Maybe people don't know what's happening.
	Maybe they've forgotten.
	You know, it's so traumatizing to think of Charlie Hebdo or the Bataclan or Nice.
	You know, maybe it's so traumatizing.
	It can't be true.
	That wouldn't ever happen.
	I don't know what that is, but it's messed up, man.
	Messed up.
	Well, there are reasons to think that's not going to happen to us, but that's not one of them.
	I mean, I can see the rationale that we're a big country.
	We've had no attacks.
	We're not really easy to get in and out of.
	There's a huge ocean on either side of us.
	The bad apples, the ISIS guys, even though I've seen people freak out, they don't have a navy.
	They haven't got an air force.
	They can't fly over here, so they have to sneak in.
	And it's not that easy to sneak in, apparently.
	So we don't really have too many.
	We have a few lunatics that are self-radicalized, but I just don't see it as like, I'm not shaking in my boots.
	I personally, especially in certain parts of the country, I see unbelievably soft targets.
	It could be a disaster if somebody just had a bazooka.
	And here's something I don't understand.
	And when I say I don't understand, I don't understand why Trump hasn't brought this up, why Bannon hasn't, why Kelly hasn't brought this up.
	Why don't we use this information that we discussed before this even broke in the news in 2015?
	Authorities say as ISIS swept through major Syrian cities last year, it was able to seize government passport printing machines of a kind used by major governments around the world.
	A Homeland Security Investigations bulletin sent to law enforcement in the last week and obtained by ABC News showed examples of suspect passports and said ISIS may have boxes full of blank passports.
	The bulletin warned that individuals from Syria with passports issued in these ISIS-controlled cities or who had passport blanks may have traveled to the U.S. Several of the fraudulent passports have already been discovered in Europe, most notably in the Paris attacks, when authorities said one of the suicide bombers used this forged Syrian passport to come to Europe as a refugee.
	There you go.
	Give yourself a borderline.
	I forgot about that clip, but that...
	Even though it's old.
	But I don't understand why they're not bringing that up.
	Comey testified that they knew this and that it seemed that they had that capability, he said, actually, verbatim.
	Why?
	I don't understand.
	I do not understand.
	I don't think they're that bright.
	Finally, the true answer as to why we should let all this happen comes from Bill Kristol.
	Of course, Bill Crystal is a...
	Neocon.
	What's his thing?
	He was a part of Project for New American Century.
	He's the editor, one of the editors at one of the right-wing magazines.
	I can't think of the name.
	Well, he's going to tell you really what's going on here and why we want immigrants.
	And when you look at the social justice warriors...
	You want Sam McGrath for maid service.
	Thank you.
	You're right.
	Look, to be totally honest, if things are so bad, as you say, with the white working class, don't you want to get new Americans in who aren't going to be...
	What the whole stop?
	What is the logic of that?
	Things are so bad, these poor white American working class can't get work, so don't you think you'd want more immigrants?
	How do you sell that without the guy who is interviewing you going, you're nuts!
	I think he was speaking to an audience that wanted to hear this.
	I don't understand how you can say that because you can only say that as an elitist saying, well, you know, shit's bad.
	Everyone wants 15 bucks an hour.
	Screw it.
	Let's bring in some new Americans.
	New Americans.
	This is a good title.
	Yeah, that'll work cheap.
	I'm writing that down.
	Off the books.
	New Americans.
	There you go.
	All right.
	Look, to be totally honest, if things are so bad, as you say, with the white working class, don't you want to get new Americans in who aren't going to be?
	I'm serious.
	You can make a case that this is going on too long and this is too crazy, probably, and I hope this thing isn't being, like, you know, videotaped or ever shown anywhere.
	Whatever tiny, pathetic future I have is going to be totally collapsed.
	You can make a case that America has been great because every...
	I think John Adams said this at the beginning, right?
	Basically, if you're in a free society, a capitalist society, after two, three, four generations of hard work, everyone becomes kind of decadent, lazy, spoiled, whatever.
	And then, luckily, you have these waves of people coming in from Italy and Ireland and Russia and now Mexico who really want to work hard and really want to succeed and really want their kids to live better lives than them and aren't sort of clipping coupons or hoping that they can hang on and Meanwhile, you know, we grew up with spoiled kids and so forth.
	So in that respect, I don't know why this moment is that different from the early 20th century.
	Unbelievable.
	That's a clip of the day.
	Thank you very much.
	I kind of expected it.
	That is unbelievable.
	Yeah.
	That somebody would have such disrespect...
	For people who've been drummed out of work by the globalists who move their jobs overseas or to Mexico to say any of those things, you've got to put that on a permanent list.
	That's as good as the advertising clip.
	Isn't that amazing?
	Yes!
	Here's what's interesting.
	So I'm in my little debate group of me and the liberal journalists around me.
	This is what you guys do after your book club?
	Yes, after we read first, and then we bitch at each other.
	And so one of them, one of them goes off on, he says, well, the working class is the one who voted Trump in, and they're a bunch of bigots and hateful this and that.
	It was just like, this guy is a progressive.
	Like a progressive, liberal progressive at the highest order.
	Way over there.
	Bernie plus.
	And he is slamming the American working poor.
	Yeah.
	Yes, poor.
	I was stunned.
	Not even the working poor.
	Just the poor.
	You're just taking a...
	And I said, why don't we just kill the poor?
	Yeah.
	Especially whitey.
	Kill Whitey!
	Kill Whitey, kill the poor.
	That'll solve the problem.
	You got all this homeless encampment over here in Berkeley.
	You got that woman, the teacher.
	Go over there and shoot these people.
	Yeah.
	I am stunned by a lot of this.
	Stunned.
	I'm stunned that he even said, well, this will probably be on the internet.
	Yes!
	I'll be screwed.
	Yeah, you got it.
	Why did he say it?
	Let's deconstruct that for a moment.
	When you know that it's going to come across as you being an incredible a-hole, and you preface that, and you still say it?
	That is either huge hubris or I don't know what it is.
	I think there's a lot of stuff like that.
	And this is part of, I think, the split universe situation.
	People are saying...
	I'm not an officer.
	People are saying screwball stuff that they...
	In fact, I was doing this with this email exchange with these guys.
	I said, you listen to yourselves.
	They can't seem to do it.
	They can't seem to stop.
	And?
	What did they say?
	They didn't say anything.
	They just backed up their old nonsense.
	They didn't...
	But they think I'm nuts.
	What do you mean listening to ourselves?
	They're working poor.
	They suck.
	They stink.
	They're a bunch of bigots.
	They hate...
	They're xenophobes.
	Yeah.
	I would say the people that voted for Trump, half of them, all of them don't know what a xenophobe is or who cares.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, Chris, that blew me away, too.
	I just, wow, is that what you think?
	And he's even saying, you know, people clipping coupons.
	They're so dumb, these people clipping coupons.
	Bring in some new Americans.
	Holding on to their Bible and rifles.
	Where did this alternate universe story come from?
	And with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C, where the C stands for Club of Books and Stuff, Dvorak!
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry, in the morning to you, Mr.
	Seabooch on the ground, feeding the air, subs and water.
	Also the dames and knights out there.
	In the morning, everybody, in the chatroom, knowledge in the stream.com.
	Hope you're enjoying seeing how the sausage is made today, and it seems like people are understanding a little bit better.
	I'm like, yeah, you see a lot is going on here while you're making jokes, all you comedians.
	Thank you to...
	Darth Coupon.
	Darth Coupon did the artwork for episode 902.
	Of course, that was morally obtuse.
	The artwork was the Sharia Bucks coffee, which we both thought was a nice piece.
	Yeah.
	That came in, this was like an evergreen.
	It was a round.
	Yeah.
	It was a nice piece.
	When it came in, it just seemed like we didn't get any other good, really...
	Outstanding product this time around.
	I just want to thank him and all the artists.
	Noagendaartgenerator.com Now I want to mention that since you're doing this experiment...
	The spreadsheet is not on the screen if that's what you're going to ask.
	No, no.
	My spreadsheet is fine.
	But you're doing this experiment on the YouTube.
	No, you wouldn't have this spreadsheet on the screen.
	No.
	Well, there's all kinds of personal information.
	If people really like what you're doing, they should, you know, people always say, well, let's do video.
	Okay.
	He's doing a kind of a video that this is a movement toward that.
	If the donations increase substantially, you might be able to convince Adam that this is a good idea to do something like this all the time.
	Put it in your note.
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	We'll see.
	Well, I don't know if I want to do this all the time, but okay.
	I'll just go along with it.
	Okay.
	By the way, if we don't see something like that, that is the reason we'll never do this.
	Good point.
	So you have to come in big.
	Big or go home, baby.
	Big or go home.
	Jared Meisner is our top executive producer for show 903.
	Yes, sir.
	Or four.
	I'm sorry.
	904.
	904?
	903.
	903.
	Mm-hmm.
	$640 from Bellevue, Washington.
	That's the Microsoft territory.
	Burger Master.
	I've been listening to the show now for about a year.
	And since that time, I can't begin to tell you the change in perspectives that I have of politics in the media today.
	Nice.
	The bias, misinformation, and just plain bad reporting is astounding.
	And it's all things I couldn't be nearly as privy to if it weren't for this show.
	Thanks again.
	Thank you.
	My donation at 640 brings me over the amount needed for knighthood today, but I want $230 of the overlap to be put toward Chuck Kendrick's donation amount for his knighthood today as well.
	That could...
	Now wait, was there an issue with this?
	Well, there's an issue with somebody.
	But I don't know.
	Maybe that...
	It's confusing.
	People are moving money.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	It's like a Swiss bank.
	Let me just...
	Yeah, this is...
	No, it's the next one.
	Yeah.
	This is why we can't have nice things.
	But this is also why we...
	It's very difficult.
	We do not have a database of everybody.
	It's impossible.
	It's a mess.
	It's a mess is what it is.
	He says, if you guys wouldn't mind recognizing him on your 225 show, we don't do that.
	For his actual birthday for me, that would be awesome.
	Let's put them on today's birthday list.
	No, just send me an email.
	Yeah, do it the day before.
	That's how everybody does it.
	That's how everybody does it.
	That's the only way.
	We can't track calendars.
	We don't have a thing to write it down on.
	If we did, we'd lose it.
	We have paper.
	And then you'd bitch.
	We have paper.
	Paper.
	I use paper.
	I use paper.
	And then it gets under some.
	Do we have a list that's been running for the last three, four weeks of stuff we're supposed to talk about?
	We never get to it.
	I have the list right here.
	Yes.
	And we'll get to it today.
	I hope.
	Alright, what does he want?
	He says, if I had to do a little reconnaissance work to ensure the knighthood went smoothly, I wanted this to be a surprise, so work in finding out how much he still has left, and he goes on, I digress.
	Chuck would like to be known as Sir Chuck, Nomadic Knight of the 49th Parallel.
	I don't know if he's on the list, is he?
	For my knighthood today, I would like to be known as Sir...
	Meisner, sales engineer?
	Yes.
	To the nerds by day?
	Wolf night amongst the militant left people by night?
	Hold on.
	I have...
	Now I've got all the info.
	Okay.
	So he wanted the remainder to go to his buddy, Chuck.
	And Chuck does not yet have enough...
	According to Eric DeShill, to be knighted today.
	So, I thought we were...
	Because it's...
	Because you expect this as a surprise day.
	We're going to make him a knight on probation until we can get these numbers right.
	Anyway, thanks again.
	He's got a few things he wants to say.
	We can't constantly demonize each other.
	If you still have a soundbite, finish it off with shut up, slave.
	He wants...
	Jobs, karma.
	Pelosi, Trump.
	Yeah.
	Jobs, karma.
	Followed by Obama, no, no, no.
	And Obama, we can't constantly demonize each other.
	You're never getting that.
	All right.
	Can I go?
	Yeah, go.
	No, no, no, no.
	Listen.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	Hey!
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	What?
	The democracy doesn't work if we constantly demonize each other.
	Shut up, slave!
	Jobs.
	Jobs.
	And jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	Don't tell me.
	I can't find it.
	Oscar Nadal.
	Sounds like a tennis player.
	A sort of romantic Hispanic who's in Parma, Ohio.
	Last donation to finish my third knighting.
	That makes you a baron.
	Can I get some work and getting laid karma for the romantic Hispanic?
	Absolutely.
	So pick out a baron hood.
	Yes, pick one out.
	You've got karma.
	Ryan Sterko, Parts Unknown, 312.
	I look for a note.
	There's some other Sturkos, believe it or not, but no Ryan in the emails at all whatsoever.
	I can take a quick look here.
	It might be in a different...
	I'm going to mention this to everybody.
	This is the problem with the new PayPal's methodology.
	Instead of having donation received from so-and-so as the email from...
	Where I could just look up the name there and then see if he has some screwy email address like woodchuck at gmail.com.
	Then I could look him up and find the email.
	But unless your email has got Sterko in it, I'll never find it.
	Nowadays, I used to be able to.
	I don't have anything from...
	Hold on.
	No, I do not have anything from him.
	Sorry.
	Sir Norman McDonough comes in with a Valentine's Day donation.
	Woodstock, Ontario, California, sorry.
	No, Canada.
	What am I thinking?
	Ontario, California, I'm thinking.
	214.17, these are all donations.
	And he wants his valentine is Kellyanne Conway.
	I love this woman.
	From St.
	Norman MacDonald, barren in exile of Partridge Island, New Brunswick.
	The newsletter is very scary.
	Mary...
	Or, I'm sorry.
	May Joy Behar and Whoopi never come near my pussy.
	Please get out of my vagina and two to the head and LGY. Get out of my vagina!
	You've got karma.
	Hold on.
	Yay!
	There she is.
	Okay, John...
	What is it?
	Funko?
	Fuoco.
	I'd say Fuoco.
	Fuoco, probably.
	Yeah, Fuoco.
	Fuoco.
	In Orlando, 21470.
	There's another Valentine's Day.
	I'd like to wish my lovely and beautiful wife, Crystal, a happy Valentine's Day.
	And we wish her one, too.
	Yeah.
	You don't have to read this, but I wanted to mention that John's pronunciation of Oviedo, Florida, as Oviedo, is funny, but it's actually pronounced Oviedo.
	Hmm.
	Oh, huh.
	Oviedo.
	I'll keep it the funny one.
	Alright, onward.
	Mark Waterloo Sir...
	The reason I'm having trouble reading this is because I've got a...
	Bolt of sunlight, which just hasn't happened for a month, in my face.
	I have Mark Waterloo, Sir Crash EMT. Is that where you're at?
	That's where I'm seeing you.
	Yeah, Sir Crash EMT. He's an ambulance guy.
	Watch Hung, New Jersey.
	Watch Hung.
	Watch Hung.
	We call it Watch Hung.
	Watch Hung.
	Watch Hung.
	It's like a Chinese place.
	Sir Crash EMT here, I have heard your desperate pleas and do not want you to feel like Charlie Brown with his empty briefcase and nothing from his redhead girl.
	It's a reference.
	I don't get that reference.
	Fortunately, I think it's Charlie Brown in the football.
	Fortunately, today I received my payment from my very first successful patent application.
	Wow, that's cool.
	Yes, I won't bore you with the details.
	I'm very proud to have taken part in developing...
	No, no, please, please send us details.
	I'd love to know the details of that.
	Yeah, just send us the patent number.
	We'll look it up.
	That should have a link.
	Should help match dental remains more efficiently to help get first loved ones in foreign wars back to their families.
	Thanks, both of you, my Valentines, for helping to keep all of us sane in this insane world.
	It's a growth industry.
	Your analysis lately has been amazing.
	Keep up the good work for Jingles.
	I'd like to remind everyone, don't be a boner, be a donor.
	Followed by, oh my god, that is amazing.
	And cap it off with a little karma to start the adventure of a new career path.
	Please give a shout out to my lovely bride and Valentine, Jill.
	And one to Dr.
	Red, who is lazy with his accounting, but I believe he is a silent baronet.
	Finally, to Rick Barkhouse, developer and maintainer or extraordinaire of the Noagendroid app.
	Ah, yes.
	Very good.
	He wants you to add Lagavulin 16 and long-legged women.
	But he'll go for the...
	I can barely pronounce it, let alone afford it.
	All right, here we go.
	Oh, my God!
	You've got karma.
	Peter Boyle Jr.
	comes in with a Valentine's Day amount.
	And he's dedicating it to Chrissy Hoon.
	H-U-H-N. That's his Valentine, and that's all he's got to say about it.
	Which I think is sweet.
	Peter Boyle II... Oh, that's Peter Boyle II that's got the Chrissy Hoon.
	Sorry.
	Who did I say?
	You weren't listening.
	Peter Boyle Jr., 214-17 for Chrissy.
	Colin Cunningham in Portland, Oregon, 214-17.
	I want to thank you to For the twice-weekly dose of sanity you provide through an excellent No Agenda show.
	I've been hooked on the show since the first episode I heard, and I've hit many friends in the mouth since finding the show in the spring of 2015.
	I'd like to call out Mariela Nolfo.
	Mary Filla.
	Mary Ella.
	Mary Ella is what I said.
	As the love of my life this Valentine's Day, Ella, I love you.
	You mean the world to me.
	Thank you for standing by me despite my occasional fits of douchebaggery.
	Speaking of which, I'd like to request a dedouching for both Mary Ella and myself, especially myself, even though I have donated in the past, I would have...
	I would also like a dose of God.
	Hope she doesn't kill me for spending this much money, Karma.
	See, let me give her the dude to you.
	You've been de-douched.
	Oh, boy.
	Okay.
	You'd like to reserve the title of The Deaf, Dumb, Blind Knight.
	The Deaf, Dumb, Blind Knight.
	Sure, please, the mean pinball.
	Dame Astrid.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait.
	He's got some jingles here.
	He's got some jingles.
	Oh, did he?
	You can't skip all this.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	It's all right.
	You're not paying attention.
	You're not listening.
	I was listening.
	Okay, what does he want?
	He wants, whoopee, get out of my vagina.
	A Yoko's great gig in the sky, cut off by two to the head, in other words, the screeching.
	And can you see that juice?
	Get out of my vagina!
	Oh my gosh!
	Can you see that juice?
	You've got karma.
	Damn, I'm good.
	That was a good combination.
	The shots and then the juice.
	Sick!
	Dame Astrid, Duchess of Japan, who's not sick.
	She came with $214, which we'll give her credit for as the Valentine's Day thing.
	She'll be the last Valentine's Day associate executive producer.
	If you live to be 100, I want to live to be 100 minus one day, so I never have to live without you.
	So I never have to see you pass away, I think is the full...
	Well, it's a quote from a middle name.
	Happy Valentine's Day!
	Dame Astrid, Duchess of Japan and all the disputed islands of the Japan Sea.
	I gotta go visit them again, her and Sir Mark.
	Yeah, you should.
	Douglas, they should come over here once in a while.
	Was that it?
	What?
	Oh, that was it.
	Yeah, that is it.
	Yeah, we finished there with a few of these.
	It was better than the none we had going in.
	Yeah, no kidding.
	But it saved the day.
	So you guys all saved the day, you Valentine's sweethearts.
	Yes.
	Thank you all so much.
	Of course, these are the real credits, executive producer credits and associate executive producer credits, which you can use for many different things, putting them onto your LinkedIn profile.
	It appears to get people jobs.
	You know, it does look pretty catchy, I'll say.
	So, consider that, and we'll have another donation segment.
	You look like a hot shot.
	You look like a hot shot.
	Yeah, that's right.
	You can put it on your business card.
	Remember us for our Thursday show.
	Dvorak.org slash NA And while you're sitting at your Grammy viewing party tonight, why don't you go ahead and propagate the formula for us.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Hey, citizens.
	Shut up, slave!
	Shut up, slave!
	Yowza.
	I have an interesting kind of an entremant story.
	It's a little long clip, but it's the most fascinating and it's an actual story.
	Fascinating thing that happened recently.
	You know about these international robberies and they finally caught the guy in Turkey.
	It's been going on since 2011.
	They've been robbing banks left and right.
	Are these the guys who also robbed Kim Kardashian?
	No.
	No, these guys, this was a fascinating story because there's a guy in Turkey.
	Well, we just play this and it's just a great, I think it's just a great cops and robbers story.
	Yeah, what is it?
	ATM thefts.
	Ah, makes nothing but sense.
	In Brooklyn today, a Turkish man who used his computer to loot millions from cash machines was sentenced to eight years.
	How did he do it?
	Here's Josh Elliott.
	Hey, is that an official news term, to loot?
	I mean, that sounds a little odd.
	I think you can use it.
	Is it just me, maybe?
	I don't know, just to loot?
	It's just you.
	Okay, there you go.
	Josh Elliott.
	35-year-old Ershan Findacolu is the mastermind behind one of the most intricate bank robberies in history.
	A crime so brazen, he posed with a pile of cash on his chest.
	Secret Service agent Scott Serafian says millions were taken from ATMs in New York City alone.
	Block after block.
	ATM after ATM. They hit them all.
	They had it mapped out and they knew that Broadway had a large number of ATMs in close proximity to each other.
	From Turkey, Findacolu hacked into the computers of international banks, stole account information, and then sent ATM numbers to criminal gangs around the world he'd recruited online.
	He also removed all withdrawal limits from the accounts.
	Gang members, seen here on surveillance cameras, then went to work, hitting machines from Tokyo to London to New York, where Ken Primo is a Secret Service agent.
	They came and emptied these.
	Yes, multiple transactions.
	Put your card in, put your pins in, take out the limit.
	Put your card in, put your pin in, take out your limit.
	Back in Turkey, Fendikolu was watching it all.
	He was watching so that he could tell who was withdrawing how much, so that he'd know how much money he was supposed to get back.
	The first hit happened in February of 2011.
	15,000 transactions in 18 countries.
	$10 million were stolen.
	The second hit was December 2012.
	5,000 transactions in 20 countries.
	$5 million were withdrawn.
	Then, the big score.
	February 19, 2013.
	Can I just make a guess?
	Three congressional...
	A little over 10...
	Oh, shit.
	A guess, John?
	Just a little guess.
	Does this report...
	The last take?
	Do you think that possibly this story ends in, hmm, cash is dangerous?
	They don't do that, but that's exactly where this is headed.
	$1 million were withdrawn.
	Then, the big score.
	February 19, 2013.
	In a little over 10 hours, Cruz made some 36,000 transactions in 24 countries for a take of $40 million in cash.
	The thieves sent most of the money back to Findacolu, but started showing off their take, cash and expensive watches.
	Their end came at a mob movie staple, a New York diner, where police arrested one gangman, carrying almost one million dollars.
	But Dave Beach, who runs the Secret Service office in New York, says most of the money has not been recovered.
	Gone.
	Just gone.
	It was cash.
	It's untraceable.
	The operation was in fact so sophisticated that by that massive third theft, Scott, Fendikolu had determined which ATMs carried the most cash of all and so instructed his crews to hit those first.
	An evil genius, Josh Elliott.
	Thanks very much.
	Coming up next, the flu vaccine.
	Monday, you better hop that.
	That's right, there's a war on cash.
	Mm-hmm, that's just the beginning.
	There's reports everywhere in Europe, again, about the dangers of cash.
	And the dangers of getting cash at the ATM machine.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's very dangerous to get cash from the ATM machine.
	Oh, it's so dangerous.
	Every time I go to an ATM machine, I'm shaking.
	I'm literally shaking and shaking and pushing the buttons and my hands are shaking and the money comes out.
	I shove it in my pocket as fast as I can and run to the car because I know I have like, I don't know, 40 bucks on me.
	Well, part of the European action plan is restrictions on cash, types of cash, physical paper money flowing.
	And he, see, former IMF chief published the paper, said the U.S. should get rid of the $100 bill.
	Yes, you know.
	It seems to me this guy in Turkey started this scam in 2011.
	So he did it over a two year period.
	It took him three years after that to catch him.
	You think if they had a little better security on all this cash and these machines.
	So some guy can just change all the parameters and pass out these pins and all the rest of it worldwide.
	That would probably help.
	And we could still have cash.
	Well, what continues to blow me away is that the chip and pin cards in the United States, the one I have, you just put it in.
	You don't even do a pin.
	You just put it in.
	Oh, thank you.
	Done.
	I usually have to sign, so it's just not swiping.
	I'm sticking it in.
	I don't swipe.
	I stick it in.
	It's completely insecure.
	Completely insecure.
	Banks don't give a crap.
	The fraud is several billion dollars a year, and they just write it off.
	They don't care.
	It's just data.
	It's not even money.
	Yeah, this is only what the total, I think, was like $60 million or $70 million.
	It's like, meh, who cares?
	Let's find some other people to rob of their mortgages.
	The Bank of America who foreclosed on some guy didn't even have a Bank of America mortgage.
	Yeah, that story's great.
	Have you put me on the trail of the bugging of the Oval Office and the White House and all this stuff that's going on?
	Yes.
	And I think, actually, well, I have a little setup.
	A little setup from Gyan Chichikhan, who, of course, is the best reporter over there at RT. So she kind of gets into, not bugs, but more like spies and stuff, and people who are leaking information.
	And she categorized it a little bit as gossip, but these calls that the president had with Putin and with Trumbull in Australia, she kind of laughingly deconstructs some of that.
	The Trump administration is investigating who are these anonymous sources in the government who are leaking information to the press that often present him as incompetent.
	For instance, Trump had a conversation with the Russian president.
	The White House put out a very diplomatic readout to say, quote, All right.
	Reuters, in the meantime, breaks with a story citing unnamed U.S. officials who said Trump put Putin on hold because he didn't know what the nuclear reduction agreement known as the New START Treaty was.
	Whoever leaked that must have been in the room, which means pretty close to the president.
	By the way, the White House press secretary later disputed that Reuters report, saying that Trump was familiar with the nuclear treaty, but was asking his team for an opinion on the subject.
	Someone also leaked to the media the transcripts of President Trump's calls with the leaders of Mexico and Australia.
	Trump said they were looking, quote unquote, very, very hard for the leakers.
	He blamed, quote unquote, Obama people.
	Thanks, Obama.
	There you go.
	This gets a little bit deeper when you hear this report, and this is from the original Money Honey Maria Bartiromo, who was quite outraged at what happened here, and this is very underreported about the spies who were inside computer networks.
	In our government.
	Three congressional IT, information technology, IT employees have been fired for accessing members' computer networks without permission.
	Maria's on the show knows more about this.
	Can you tell, fill in me a little bit?
	Here are their names, Stuart.
	Let me tell you what the three people who were fired on Thursday.
	Abid, Imran, and Jamal Awan.
	They were barred from computer networks at the House of Representatives on Thursday because they accessed congressmen and congresspeople's computer networks unauthorized.
	At a minimum, they were fired.
	They haven't been arrested yet.
	At a minimum, we know that they accessed computers unauthorized.
	And they did so in foreign intelligence, foreign affairs, and intelligence committees.
	So they were getting very important information, government information.
	They accessed these computers.
	That is the least of it.
	There's also some talk that people are looking into what ties they have to terrorism.
	Are they impacted by the Muslim Brotherhood?
	Are they part of the Muslim Brotherhood?
	One of them has a criminal background.
	A couple of questions here.
	Why?
	How is it possible that...
	Three brothers are hired, Muslim brothers, I'm just saying, to work in Congress and deal with our most intelligent and sensitive information, number one.
	They were all making $160,000.
	Why were they paid so much?
	22 years old, one of the guys, the other was 25.
	They're making $160,000, $161,000, and $165,000.
	And one of them has a criminal background.
	How does this happen?
	I hear what you're saying.
	I mean, these intelligence committees handle our terror strategies, right?
	They got information on Benghazi, by the way.
	And it looks like they, yes, they also work for many Democrats in these houses.
	Good God.
	They are thinking that maybe they could be also one of the people, one of the reasons that Debbie Wasserman Schultz's account got hacked.
	So, there's so much more to come on this, Stu.
	This is an incredible story.
	I think it's amazing.
	Now the one thing I learned is that these were definitely dudes not named Ben.
	Oh, they were just hack-hacks?
	No, they were dudes named Ben, only the names were not Ben.
	Dudes named Abdul.
	Yeah.
	Now, this is very under-reported.
	This story came up.
	It didn't get a lot of press because it was going to look good for whatever Muslim community was involved.
	It probably is the Muslim Brotherhood because that was...
	Well, we know the Muslim Brotherhood is all throughout the State Department.
	They have all kinds of security access.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so that's probably what it was.
	Abedin's connected to the Muslim Brotherhood.
	And so this kind of piggybacks on a couple of stories that went in the New York Times, which is, again, trying to demean Trump with these crazy stories about the guys that work in the White House now don't know where the light switches are.
	and they're bumbling around and they can't find the light.
	So they're working in the dark because I guess they're too stupid.
	You know, there's a bunch of people that actually work at the White House as maids and butlers.
	Yeah.
	And I guess it's too difficult to ask them.
	Maybe it's beneath them to actually ask somebody where the light switches are hidden.
	I guess it's too hard because these guys are so stupid.
	These Trumpers are so stupid.
	They can't even ask somebody.
	And apparently they can't find the doors.
	There's a bunch of these, you know, because the way it's designed is hidden doors.
	You have to push on it and pop open that kind of door.
	don't they have Bill Kristol find some new Americans for them well they apparently need to find someone but well on that same topic here is David Brooks again claiming about the same thing that the Trump White House is a bunch of bumbling idiots I can't find the door knobs and I can't find the light switches and they're stumbling all over each other but if you listen carefully to what he has to say it's it's kind of funny
	A sense of lack of thoughtfulness in the administration on an enormously serious issue.
	David, how do you see it?
	Well, first on that last clip of Trump on the plane, you know, his staff is briefing reporters in somewhat of a chaotic manner in just the last few minutes.
	Some people saying, oh, they're going to just take it to the Supreme Court, they're going to rewrite it, and the two different briefings are contradicting each other, and that's something the Times reporters have been talking about and tweeting about publicly, which is some of the White House staff is in a high state of misery because of the general lack of chaos.
	On the larger issue of the travel ban...
	A high state of chaos.
	Mmm, nice.
	So you didn't hear that right, did you?
	I didn't.
	No.
	Okay.
	Another little bit of tomfoolery, although it may be just a slip-up, which I have to assume.
	He says they're in a state of misery because of lack of chaos.
	Let me listen.
	Well, first on that last clip of Trump on the plane, you know, his staff is briefing reporters in somewhat of a chaotic manner in just the last few minutes.
	Some people saying, oh, they're going to just take it to the Supreme Court.
	They're going to rewrite it.
	And the two different briefings are contradicting each other.
	And that's something the Times reporters have been talking about and tweeting about publicly, which is some of the White House staff is in a high state of misery because of the general lack of chaos.
	On the larger issue of the travel ban...
	Oh, man.
	All right.
	Bend over.
	You got it.
	You got me.
	That was good.
	That was good.
	Now, the other thing he mentioned in there, he says...
	I mean, these guys...
	I don't understand why they don't get two people that kind of can, you know, argue with each other instead of agree that Trump's an idiot.
	Uh...
	He says the Supreme Court, they're going to send it back to the Supreme Court and do it that way, or they're going to rewrite the immigration control process.
	The executive order, which he says is contradictory, and it's confusing.
	That's not contradictory.
	Those are two alternatives.
	The contradictory is when you tell somebody, we're going to take the Supreme Court.
	We're not going to take the Supreme Court as both statements.
	Well, if you say something, or we're going to do this, that's not contradictory.
	So he's not even using his words right.
	This guy's a writer.
	He wrote, I think he wrote a column about this, and his general consensus was, you know, it's really not good what we're doing because this will go to the Supreme Court, and I have a feeling that And the White House is waiting for the confirmation of the final Supreme Court justice before they take it to the Supreme Court,
	because I think on constitutional grounds, obviously it's constitutional.
	And then this is what this guy was saying.
	It's like, well, we don't really want to go all the way to the Supreme Court, but I think maybe the Trump administration is pushing this a little bit.
	Yeah, the whole thing will be expired by the time...
	But how about this?
	This came to me last night in a dream.
	Maybe it's time for another cycle event.
	So it's either these guys wanted to go to the Supreme Court, or we could have a cycle event.
	And that means it would happen in the next week, because that would be the timing of it.
	I'm guessing no, personally.
	Okay.
	there was a Flynn hit piece that was done on CBS which has brought back that same topic that he chatted with some guy in Russia a day before he took office and so he's now a violator of the Logan Yes.
	But CBS did a huge hit piece, if you want to play that.
	Well, Mr.
	Trump's National Security Advisor, retired General Michael Flynn, is under investigation tonight for contacts that he had with Russia's ambassador to the United States.
	That sounds like normal diplomacy, but these conversations came before the inauguration.
	Hold on, stop.
	He's under investigation by whom?
	Yeah, he doesn't say.
	Wouldn't you put that in the story?
	I would say under investigation by the FBI, which would be the appropriate agency.
	Maybe, maybe just, say, Department of Justice.
	I would have mentioned that.
	Yeah, I think I would have.
	Okay.
	But, you know, that's why I'm not running CBS. These conversations came before the inauguration.
	So one question is whether Flynn violated a 200-year-old law that forbids private citizens from negotiating with foreign governments.
	Jeff Begay says...
	Well, wouldn't...
	I can mention a couple of people who negotiate with foreign governments.
	Yeah.
	They do it all the time.
	Jesse Jackson.
	You can be anybody you want.
	Well, how about this?
	They say Flynn was talking about whatever he was talking about.
	He wasn't in negotiation anyway.
	What was he negotiating?
	What was he negotiating?
	Yeah, what's he negotiating about?
	Yeah.
	It's from negotiating with foreign governments.
	Jeff Begay is following this.
	Thank you, Jeff.
	In late December, investigators say retired General Michael Flynn discussed U.S. sanctions against Russia in a phone call with Ambassador Sergey Kislyak.
	A law enforcement source tells CBS News that the FBI and other intelligence agencies gathered the information through ongoing...
	And other intelligence agencies.
	No, he says they got the information.
	He never said they're doing the investigation.
	Let me hear it again.
	Law enforcement source tells CBS News that the FBI and other intelligence agencies gathered the information through ongoing...
	This is just implications.
	He starts off with law enforcement sources.
	I'm so sick of this.
	I'm so sick.
	When did this become okay?
	The way I... I didn't go to J school.
	I didn't go to gay school.
	When I grew up, it was, if you are going to do a story, you have to get someone who's going to go on the record and say, yeah, this is what I said.
	When did that become okay to just not do it?
	It's never really been okay, but they do it all the time.
	And their argument is, well, people won't talk to us if they get sighted.
	That means they're either talking through unofficial channels, or it's all bullcrap, or it's all got an agenda, which is what I believe is the case.
	So law enforcement sources tell us that, and then he mentions FBI and somebody else, probably NSA, as if the law enforcement source was the FBI, but that's not what he says, because it's not bullshit.
	Exactly.
	Through ongoing electronic surveillance of Russian officials and suspected spies.
	The timing of the call raised eyebrows.
	The Obama administration had just imposed new sanctions on Russia and expelled 35 diplomats because of the Kremlin's alleged meddling in the U.S. election.
	But Russian President Vladimir Putin did not retaliate.
	Something President-elect Trump tweeted was very smart.
	The Trump administration has acknowledged Flynn's phone calls with the Russian ambassador, but had denied that sanctions were discussed.
	Vice President Mike Pence appeared on Face the Nation last month.
	It was strictly coincidental that they had a conversation.
	They did not discuss anything having to do with the United States' decision to expel diplomats or impose a censure against Russia.
	Today, a source close to Mr. President.
	Pence stressed that the Vice President's statement was based on what General Flynn personally told him.
	At the White House today, the two briefly shook hands before a press conference.
	Flynn has been a paid consultant for Russia today.
	A cable channel the Obama administration labeled a propaganda arm of the Kremlin.
	He also sat next to Putin at a gala in 2015.
	It's the same story.
	A White House official tells CBS News General Flynn does not recall and cannot be 100% certain whether sanctions were discussed on that call.
	Scott, aboard Air Force One today, President Trump said he had not seen the stories about his national security advisor, but he said he would look into it.
	Jeff Pegues.
	Thanks.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	Wow.
	Now, this is a hit piece.
	It's the same story, though.
	It's the same story.
	Yes, it's a whole story.
	They're bringing it back.
	They're making it look like this guy's a big pro-Russia guy, and they've got to stop that while we can, because we've got an arms industry to support, and we've got to make sure they stay in business.
	We can't do that if we actually have peace.
	So, the way I was looking at, or trying to analyze this story, and I realized one of the things going on And by the way, even if he discussed sanctions, he said, here I am, I'll be Flynn.
	By the way, you guys are going to have some sanctions thrown against you.
	Don't worry about it.
	When we get in office, things will be different.
	Is that negotiating?
	I don't think so.
	No.
	That's just like being a friendly guy.
	Well, we heard President Obama negotiate with Medvedev on an open mic.
	He said, tell Vlad that when I'm re-elect I'll have more time.
	Yeah, but he wasn't a private citizen.
	It's okay for him to do that.
	Okay, that point.
	Well, I negotiate with...
	Let's go back to this.
	The CIA, I believe, hates Flynn.
	Yes.
	Oh, yes.
	We know this.
	I know who hates Flynn.
	Uncle Don hates him.
	Okay, they hate Flynn.
	He's a hard ass.
	He's a guy that these guys don't like.
	Hate him.
	So this is just that they were trying to get him.
	And we're dealing with CBS doing this hit piece.
	CBS, the CIA's broadcasting system.
	This is bull crap.
	Yep, yep, yep, yep.
	He's going to have to expect more of the same.
	Well, if we could stay with Russia for a moment.
	This story that came out about...
	Well, actually, I have the Fox and Friends story with Corey Lewandowski about Snowden, the gift from Vladimir to Donald.
	Edward Snowden, according to reports, could be being handed over by Vladimir Putin to President Trump as a gift.
	First of all, what's the White House response to this?
	We haven't heard from the White House on this story yet.
	You know, I haven't heard if, you know, this is something the White House has engaged in.
	I can't imagine it has been.
	But, you know, this is the gift that nobody wants is the problem.
	You know, I think he's perfectly fine just sitting where he is right now.
	And I don't think that the president has made any overtures, either publicly or privately, about any desire to bring Edward Snowden back to the United States at all.
	And it's a tweet from Edward Snowden last night that we had to put up on the screen where he kind of responds to these rumors, this suggestion.
	He says, finally, irrefutable evidence that I never cooperated with Russian.
	Intel, no country trades away spies, as the rest would fear there and next.
	So President Trump calls him a traitor.
	Edward Snowden says, I'm not, and this proves I'm not.
	Do you think the president would relish the ability to put a guy like this on trial?
	Look, my guess is if the Russians want to send him back here and the president wants to put him in Leavenworth for the next 150 years, maybe it's something that he has an interest in doing.
	And, you know, that's probably the place where Edward Snowden belongs.
	But, you know, I don't think this is truly the priority of this administration right now.
	Here's one thing I don't understand about with the Snowden tweet.
	Countries exchange spies all the time.
	Yes.
	What is he talking about?
	I guess it was the other way around.
	That would mean he would be a spy for the U.S. But is this story even true?
	Where did this come from?
	This came from, guess who?
	Mike Murrell.
	Ah, okay.
	Now Mike Murrell supposedly talked to somebody in Russia, which sounds to me like he's violating the Logan Act.
	He's negotiating with the enemy.
	And he's a private citizen.
	Yeah.
	Hmm.
	Well, there's a lot of...
	Nobody brings that into the picture.
	The Russia hate is back into the mainstream.
	Into the biggest show in the United States, which I have...
	I can't say never, but I've never watched the full episode for sure.
	That would be the number one hit show, The Bachelor.
	Because if you want to influence somebody, you know, you go to The View, you go to The Bachelor, and that's how we do it here in the United States of Gitmo Nation.
	Yeah, so the dummies can get their dose.
	One of the girls is a Russian.
	She immigrated from Russia.
	And she's sitting down with a bachelor.
	This is rich.
	And here's her sob story.
	I was born in Russia.
	Okay.
	What kind of town?
	Was it like a city?
	Was it a small town?
	I was small.
	I was very small.
	Growing up, I didn't really have much.
	I lived with my mom.
	I have a sister.
	She lived with my dad.
	So was it just you and your mom for a while?
	As far as I know, my mom wasn't around much to begin with, but one day she said, don't eat anything.
	I'm going to bring some food back, but I'm going to go out for a day.
	It was really exciting to hear that because we didn't have any food necessarily growing up.
	I wish I could remember more, but I remember the cupboards being empty and I remember eating lipstick.
	It didn't taste good by any means.
	Oh, my God.
	You're gonna be a hooker.
	It's so easy to turn to prostitution to make money, and I did not want that for myself, and that's why when I turned, when I was 12 and I was getting adopted, one of my teachers said, think of it this way, if you stayed in Russia, your life will be in black and white.
	If you go to America, it will be in color.
	That's right, just become a hooker.
	It's unbelievable.
	Yeah, it's unbelievable.
	The fact that they let that go is even crazier.
	Oh, brother.
	Hey, I want to ask you...
	Actually, I sent you the article, and I thought this would be an apropos time to discuss it.
	And this came up on a financial website that I had not heard of before, but now that I look at it, they have some pretty good news.
	It's really about stocks and stuff like that.
	And they did an investigation with the...
	With the original Alexa, which I didn't know, Alexa.com, we used to use that all the time in the early days because you could look at your ranking.
	Yeah.
	So you could see how you were doing and where your traffic was coming from.
	It was random, but yes, you could see at least get an inkling.
	And it is now owned by Amazon, which makes sense because, of course, they probably bought it just for the name and let those boys have a little silly website.
	Yeah.
	And I never put a lot of weight into the Alexa.com rankings and stuff like that, but you could get some data from it.
	I think you could get useful data.
	Yes.
	Well, you can't really do it anymore.
	Now I need an account that used to be just free.
	So what...
	What has come to light is that the New York Times, the Guardian, and my favorite, the WAPO! The WAPO! The Washington Post.
	That after the election, of course, everyone had a problem.
	You know, their numbers were spiking, it was fantastic, and then all of a sudden it starts to go down.
	We got a lot of new subscribers, which I believe to be true.
	And if you look at the stats, up to 58% across the board of these publications had traffic coming in from China as of December.
	When all these new subscribers came in, coincidentally.
	I just want to mention my experience with this, and I want to turn it over to you.
	One of the reasons why I left my own company is because this was what was going on in Silicon Valley, and it was the only way to really make the business model work.
	And I didn't like it, and that changed later, but I did not like it.
	The idea is you buy traffic, And you buy it at a CPM, a cost per thousand of about $5, about 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 years ago.
	And you then take that traffic and you sell the ad spots to an ad network who's going to pay you $7.
	And you take the arbitrage in the middle, $2.
	And with that, you create some crappy content.
	And so you're basically stealing because people are not, you know, it's fake traffic.
	It's not real.
	And it appears that this is...
	And these are American companies, by the way.
	You call it an American company, and they take care of it however they take care of it.
	They tend to be in Florida, by the way, most of them.
	Yes, yes, that's true.
	And they have names like the Monopoly, or was it...
	Interesting little names.
	If this is true, if this is true, this is...
	I would say this is very, very bad for the mainstream print press.
	Well, no, I'd say it'd be bad for the online internet advertisers.
	I don't know that the mainstream print press would impact them as much as they say.
	Of course it does.
	They need the ads.
	Are you kidding me?
	Yeah, but they're not going to stop getting ads for the print.
	It's the online guys that won't get ads because that's where it's all phonied up.
	Okay, I'm sorry.
	Yes, but their future is clearly online and their paper products are clearly not the future.
	Exactly.
	That's true, and they know it.
	And it's a serious problem because they may have gotten more subscriptions to the newspaper, but these hits that are coming in from China are definitely not subscriptions.
	And I think it just boosted their numbers of page views, but it didn't...
	Those numbers didn't boost their subscriptions.
	They probably picked up a few more subscriptions.
	These guys, all three of these operations, I don't know about the Guardian, but I know the WAPO does the same thing.
	You've seen your two articles this month.
	If you really like great journalism, then clearly you do.
	Just clear your cookies and use a different IP address and you're good.
	But I think this is a scandal.
	And I brought this up with the journalist.
	Thank you.
	I was just about to ask.
	Using Lexadate is no good.
	Uh-huh.
	And they cited some other piece of crap thing I never heard of.
	Yeah, this is what they have to do.
	Somebody thought it was a good idea.
	And then they got busted.
	Somebody did the simple Alexa thing and said, what is this?
	This is nonsense.
	You can't have over 50% of your traffic coming from China.
	It's not even legal to look at the New York Times in China.
	So how are all these numbers coming in from China?
	China has banned the New York Times.
	This makes no sense.
	Well, what's the follow-up going to be?
	I mean, who checks the news people?
	Well, somebody's going to have to blow this out and get these advertisers to take a look at this.
	These guys, these advertisers are being suckered.
	Duped.
	Duped.
	Duped, I tell you.
	And by the way, that mechanism you're talking about, about creating all these bots and coming in from every which way to make your numbers look better, they actually can program these bots to go do a couple of clicks.
	They come on your site.
	It's all part of a script.
	They come on your site.
	Mouse movements.
	John, mouse movements.
	Everything.
	Everything you need is programmed.
	Yeah, they got the whole thing.
	And you click and you...
	And so if you see it, it looks like a real person, but it's a robot.
	And they're not going to buy any products.
	No.
	It's a huge scandal.
	This backs you up in your thesis that internet advertising is bogus because you really can't count it.
	Not only can you not count it, there is no artificial shortage.
	You can't short the supply because you can make as much supply as you want.
	The inventory is endless.
	The numbers have to drift down to zero eventually or close to zero.
	And this is happening every single, before a board meeting in Silicon Valley.
	Go watch Silicon Valley.
	They did the same thing.
	They did it on, remember that?
	No.
	In Silicon Valley.
	They were in trouble and they had a board meeting and their thing wasn't working and then they bought some traffic.
	And all of a sudden this shit was working and then they got interest and then a deal came together.
	This is the scam that is going on continuously.
	Yes, it is a scam.
	And I screwed up big time myself.
	I did something I... Can't believe I did it.
	What?
	I got a call last Friday.
	It was like Wednesday.
	I got an email, whatever.
	Ein van dag, which is a very respectable news show on the Dutch state-owned television news.
	It's a big news program.
	Big one.
	Big ratings.
	Big one.
	And they were doing a piece on podcasting.
	And so they said, hey, you know, you're the inventor and I'd love to have you on.
	I said, okay, I can do this Friday and...
	And I spent time setting it all up.
	I had my little earbud in so I wouldn't be sitting there with cans, but they did want to see a little bit of my microphone.
	I set the whole thing up.
	And I do 25 minutes of interview in total, probably talking an hour altogether.
	And I see this piece.
	So, they're following some guy who's recording a podcast in the lunchroom, and then some English consultant who says, yes, it's very easy to make podcasts.
	And then I come on.
	15 seconds!
	With shit sound!
	They'd screwed something up, so I... And it was some non-sequitur.
	And they didn't even say he was one of the guys early on in podcasting.
	I just went, what?
	Oh my god.
	I did it again.
	I let myself be fooled, thinking it would be great, and I completely forgot that's not how the mainstream works.
	I'm glad you like it.
	You didn't tell me this story.
	It's funny.
	I did it again!
	Remember after the Michael Jackson hang-up from MSNBC? And then I think it was Tom Brokdaw had said, go interview Adam Curry.
	Hey, Tom Brokdaw wants to interview you for this piece.
	He's very specific.
	And I was on for seven seconds.
	Do you remember that?
	I waited a whole day, did two hours of interview.
	Yeah, I always expect you're going to get 15 seconds if you get that much.
	Unless you're the guy making the news, and they got you cornered.
	Then you're on a 24-hour show or something where they're just haranguing you.
	I was disappointed in myself.
	I can't believe I did it again.
	I'm going to show myself a little by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	We do have a few people to thank, to say the least, or say the most.
	Starting with Doug Harvey, Douglas Harvey.
	One, two, three, four, five.
	And he also wants to say Valentine's kisses and hugs to Adam from Jennifer Rails at the Rider Planet USA. Well, thanks you, Jennifer.
	Which one is Jennifer?
	Which is the two of her?
	I have no idea who she is.
	Isn't she one of the women that you were with on the show?
	No.
	There was no Jennifer on the show.
	I thought one of them was a Jennifer.
	No, I don't think so.
	Well, maybe...
	I don't know.
	I don't know!
	Man, he just takes women for granted.
	Boobs.
	Herb Lamb found the boob donation.
	He's donating because of the place about the Volags.
	Yeah, it was a good report.
	He liked the Volag report, huh?
	The Volag report is a gem.
	It's right up there with the pipeline.
	I think it's Volag, not Volag.
	It's Volag.
	I like Volag.
	Okay, Volag it is.
	Here comes the Volag.
	We are the Volags.
	Wait, you want to do that right, or do you want to just mess around and be like a sad project?
	Okay, we'll do it right.
	Ready?
	No, hold on.
	Hold on.
	Uh...
	You good?
	No.
	I can't find it now.
	I know.
	I'm sorry.
	You got my version.
	Steve Edwards, another boob, 8008, birthday shoutout.
	I don't know if he's on the list.
	I don't remember seeing birthday shoutout for Sir...
	Or for Steve Edwards.
	Yes, sir, cross-stitch.
	Yes, we got that one.
	Cross-stitch.
	Yeah, we got it.
	We got it.
	Okay, we got Sir Brian Green Eggs of Ham.
	Green of Ham.
	Yep.
	73, 73, 73.
	73's.
	Kilo 5 Alpha Charlie Charlie.
	It says 73's.
	Kilo Charlie.
	No, it should be Kilo Charlie 9.
	I don't know why.
	No, I think you do that wrong.
	No.
	No, there's no KCY. No, I think someone is writing it wrong in the spreadsheet.
	I think that's you writing it wrong.
	I think it must be me, because Adam, Eric just cut some pastes.
	Yeah, it would be Kilo 9 Charlie Yankee Mike.
	No, it's KC9. Yeah, it could be Kilo Charlie 9, yeah.
	Oh, whatever.
	Hey, 73s!
	73s to him.
	Catch you on the bands!
	I'll catch you on the waterfall!
	That's our digital...
	Digital version.
	What's the waterfall?
	Ah, when you're doing digital ham radio stuff, then it's just computers broadcasting and then other computers receiving it, but on your screen you have a waterfall, so you can see all the frequencies and all the different signals, and it looks like a waterfall just continuously streams down.
	That's why we say I'm the waterfall.
	Sounds pretty.
	As we drift down quickly, we don't have a lot of people here, by the way.
	Bernhard Thoney, $55.50.
	And the rest of these people are simple $50 donors, at least we have a few.
	And we do have a note I want to read.
	Heather Alatta, $50, parts unknown.
	Jesse Nolet in Arlington, Texas.
	Richard Gardiner, Sir Richard, I believe, $50.
	Michael Vickland in Sweden.
	Is this Beaumont?
	Proudfoot?
	It looks like, but there's no O. Anyway, Beaumont Proudfoot in Halliday's Point, New South Wales.
	David Furon?
	50.
	Iki Odegawa in USA, but could be anywhere.
	We have a birthday call-out for him, I hope.
	What's a big birthday 5-0 to Dave Fearon from Baltimore?
	Yes, I got Dave Fearon.
	Fearon, not Odegawa.
	I got Dave Fearon.
	Odegawa's next.
	Beth Bradshaw.
	Parts unknown.
	Kirsten Gleb, who comes in via the pop money thing, which was described in a newsletter in great detail.
	Cassidy Eastwood.
	From Oklahoma City.
	And finally, Kyle...
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Cassidy's the one who sent the note in.
	I have to read that note.
	Let me read the note after crediting Kyle Meyer in Atlanta, Georgia.
	No.
	Cassidy sent a cute little note.
	This was a check.
	And does it have hearts over the eyes?
	Let's look.
	Let's look.
	Always possible.
	Dear John and Adam, my husband hit me in the mouth almost two years ago.
	I love him for it.
	We've been married for almost four years and your show has brought us even closer together.
	You keep us sane.
	Wow, I'm happy to hear this.
	This is great.
	Yeah, I thought so too.
	Relationship makers.
	Yes, that's what we do.
	Yes.
	We have made one donation in the past, but we know we owe you so much.
	This $50 donation is a step in the right direction, and the first of many, I hope.
	As a public school teacher in Oklahoma, which has the lowest pay for teachers in the United States, my future seems shaky.
	I teach French as an elective.
	Thank you, Bouchard, high school teacher, I'm guessing.
	Thank you both for all you do.
	I have, which must be really interesting with our thinking.
	No kidding.
	Well, you know, a little bit of opposition for our, by any means, necessary girl.
	I have propagated the formula to friends and family, and a handful of them have become listeners, and a few of them donors.
	Thanks again for all you do.
	You keep me away from insanity.
	Cassidy.
	Nice.
	So that concludes our list of well-wishers and producers for show 903, the lower end.
	I want to thank them all and the people that contributed lesser amounts.
	And hopefully you can pick this up for next Thursday.
	We've got no promotion, so I don't want to tell you.
	We do have President's Day today, I believe.
	Is that today or tomorrow?
	I don't know.
	It's today.
	The Grammys are tonight.
	No, no.
	That's Lincoln's birthday today, I think.
	Oh.
	President's Day is next week.
	We can't celebrate a Republican's birthday.
	That'd be no good.
	Yeah.
	And of course tonight we have the Grammys.
	Maybe I'll have an Illuminati report.
	You never know.
	I hope so.
	I can't stand watching these shows anymore.
	And the Grammy producer says they're going to encourage political conversation.
	Is that the Grammys or the Oscars or both?
	No.
	Grammys.
	This just ran as a story yesterday.
	Oh yeah.
	You want to go up there and butt slam Trump?
	You're welcome.
	Well, that should be fun then.
	It'll be fun.
	It'll be show prep.
	We'll just call it show prep show materials.
	Thank you, everybody, for your support of the program.
	This is what makes it run, along with everybody else who does a lot of work.
	I don't know if I'd have thanked Nicholas Craig for helping me out last night.
	I appreciate that.
	And, of course, everyone under $50, typically for reasons of anonymity, but also a lot of our really good subscriptions.
	To check out more and to support us for Thursday's show, go to...
	Dvorak.org slash NA. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's go for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	And we say happy birthday to Lisa Stelter, 36, on Valentine's Day.
	Paul Hooper says happy birthday to his smoking hot wife, Lisa Stelter, February 14th.
	Steve Edwards says happy birthday to Sir Cross Stitch, celebrating on the 15th.
	Heather Latta says happy birthday to her awesome boyfriend, Marty Williamson, also known as The Keeper.
	And David Fearon, happy birthday on the 13th.
	Happy birthday to all of you from your buddies here at the best podcast in the universe.
	It's your birthday, yeah!
	Okay, let me see.
	Ah, we have some titles.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes.
	We have one title, actually.
	And that obviously means that we bring this one in.
	Oscar Nadal is, of course, sort of romantic Hispanic.
	And he becomes a baron.
	We don't have a protectorate specified by him yet.
	So we'll just say he's the baron of Mexico for now.
	That would suffice.
	That should be okay.
	And we have three nightings.
	Let's get the blade here.
	Hello?
	Oh!
	Ah, good.
	All right, on stage, I need Aichi Kitagawa, Jared Meisner, And Chuck Kendrick, gentlemen, you are about to enter the roundtable of the No Agenda Knights and Dames because you have supported the best podcast in the universe, the amount of $1,000 or more.
	Mr.
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	So I hereby proudly pronounce the KB, Sir H, hunter of wild mushrooms, Sir Meisner, sales engineer of the nerves by day, knight amongst the militant left sheeple by night, and Sir Chuck...
	Nomadic night of the 49th parallel.
	Night on probation.
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	Night on probation.
	First one.
	First one.
	But we're not douchebags here.
	No, we're liberals.
	We're liberals.
	So let's, just as a little entremont, I got a good one, a good clip.
	Yes.
	This is an actress on the Larry King show, on RT. She's Mara Turney.
	She's in The Affair, and you've seen her a million times.
	She's been around.
	She's a long time.
	And this is the kind of people that you always definitely want to listen to when they have political opinions.
	Something you wish you were better at.
	Swimming.
	Something you longed to believe to be true but realized wasn't.
	That I could get away with parking my car on Charles Street between Bleeker and Hudson because I thought I wouldn't get any tickets there.
	But instead they repossess your car.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	They repossess your car?
	What, is she a repo man?
	Did she not pay the bill?
	Yeah, she's used to, again, misspoke.
	They towed her car to her.
	Yeah, repossessed.
	She's an idiot.
	Streets between Bleeker and Hudson because I thought I wouldn't get any tickets there.
	But instead, they repossess your car.
	Good old boss.
	That's no joke.
	Even though your father was on the counter.
	No, it was here in New York.
	Charles Street in New York.
	Oh, we're in L.A. Oh, we're in L.A.? We're in LA. Tell me something people don't know about you.
	We're in LA. I forgot where I was.
	That is really crazy.
	Okay, I just got in last night.
	Sorry, what?
	Wow.
	Oh, I violated the law, and I can't believe I got repossessed.
	Nice.
	Well, here's my entremant.
	As I prefaced in the beginning of the program, I'm doing some archival work.
	I want to collect our stories.
	You, in particular, have great stories.
	And it's nice if we can kind of put them together.
	You had told the story about the proper way to eat nuts on the show, on the last show.
	Oh, yes, yes.
	And, of course, you've said this one before, so I decide I'm going to archive it.
	So I'm just going to archive it and we'll put it on our album.
	The nut story?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Here it is.
	Just so you can listen to it again.
	Just go for it, John.
	Tell us your peeve about the fisting method of eating snacks on an airplane.
	I see this on the airplane and it's very annoying and I think it will result in fights breaking out because it's just so annoying to watch.
	Guy takes his bag of peanuts and throws a pile of them into his palm of his hand and then he makes a fist.
	Oh!
	Around the nuts.
	And then he shakes his fist to try to bring a nut to the little hole.
	And then he throws a nut in his mouth from his fist.
	Then he does it again.
	He shakes and throws and shakes and throws.
	It is annoying as hell to watch.
	There you go.
	So you actually produced that.
	I did.
	This one I did.
	So this is, again, a use of your time that is not necessarily a good use of your time.
	But it's okay if you want to just sit there and ridicule me for my stories.
	I'm ridiculing.
	I'm making you a legend.
	What are you talking about?
	I could have told a story dirtier.
	Like that wasn't bad enough.
	Okay, let's go to this story.
	Here's a good local story.
	This was a classic.
	Girl Scout robbed.
	This is a local story.
	Oh, I hate it when that happens.
	Police just released a sketch of a man, they say, robbed a Girl Scout and her mother at gunpoint.
	Union City Police described the suspect as an African-American teen, about 5'5", thin-billed, and wearing dark clothing.
	They say he was wearing a hood when he approached the cookie table.
	The responding police officers donated their own money to cover the loss from that theft.
	How low can you go?
	That's pretty damn low.
	That's very low.
	That's very, very low.
	The worst.
	I'm a little confused because in the newsletter you talked about how crazy the Bill Maher show was.
	Yeah.
	And I was like, okay, you're going to have clips.
	No, I figured you're always getting clips from the bill, Marshall, so I didn't get any.
	Oh, my God!
	I watched the whole thing.
	I'm like, oh, this is going to be fantastic.
	John will have a great report.
	I found the whole thing so annoying, I wasn't going to clip it.
	There were some funny bits in there, man.
	That's interesting.
	It's still out.
	We can do it on the next show if you want to go through it.
	Well, I pulled one clip which I thought was interesting.
	Just one, because I figured I'd have one that you would not have pulled.
	Al Franken.
	Bill Maher's interviewing Al Franken, who was pretty funny.
	The guy has a very funny way of speaking.
	He can deliver a punchline pretty well.
	But a question came up, which he immediately circumvented and turned into something else, and I'll remind you why.
	Donald Trump said in this meeting, thousands of people were brought in on buses from neighboring Massachusetts to illegally vote in New Hampshire.
	So once again, the president is seeing multitudes that no one else sees.
	And it said there was an awkward silence.
	An awkward silence.
	And there were six Democratic senators in the room.
	I always hope that if you were one of those senators, you wouldn't have just been awkwardly silent.
	And you would have said, no, excuse me, Mr. President, that didn't happen.
	I would have said something like that.
	You would have.
	I would have said, oh, come on, you know?
	Just stop it.
	I mean, the three to five million illegal people didn't show up and vote for Hillary, all of them for Hillary, and it didn't happen, and just stop doing that.
	So you notice how he moves away from the bust in immigrants voting in illegally across state lines.
	And I play this clip again to remind you why he is never going to broach that.
	Instead, he said, oh, no, three to five.
	He immediately goes off to the big numbers and something else.
	Here's why.
	There are anecdotes out there.
	There are examples of voter fraud, you know, 10, 15, 20 different votes here and there.
	In this case, as much as 1,000.
	But is there any example that you know of in which fraudulent voting, particularly with illegal immigrants, turned an election result?
	In 2008, Al Franken, after six months of court battles, was declared the victor in the Minnesota Senate race by 314 votes.
	After he was seated, it was discovered there were 1,200 felons who had illegally voted in that election.
	A survey was done by Fox News in Minneapolis going out and interviewing a whole bunch of those people.
	90% said they voted for Franken.
	It turned out Al Franken was the 60th vote, Paul, to pass Obamacare because the Democrats needed 60 votes since the Republicans were backing them to pass Obamacare.
	If Al Franken hadn't been seated, I think illegitimately, we wouldn't have Obamacare as we know it today.
	There you go.
	Yes, indeed.
	A classic.
	Indeedy.
	Hey, you want to do the list?
	The list.
	I got the list.
	What list?
	The list that we never do.
	Oh, the list, right.
	We got stuff to talk about.
	Yes.
	On the list.
	Okay, yeah, let's do some of the things on the list.
	Stop.
	We need a jingle for the list.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's time for the list.
	There you go.
	All right.
	The list is...
	Topics that we do after the show, I'll explain.
	Topics...
	After the show, I say, oh, we forgot to talk about...
	Oh, we forgot to talk about that.
	Oh, we forgot to talk about this.
	So we make a list.
	And then we never talk about it.
	And then we never do the list.
	We're doing the list today, John.
	We're doing the list.
	And...
	The topic on the list is a number of the topics fall into the same heading of millennials.
	And I will start with your experience, because of course you have a millennial in the family, as do I. I have three millennials in the family.
	Yes, well I have three millennials in my family.
	But they're not eating dinner all the time with you.
	Often.
	Okay, good enough.
	Let's start with ultrasounds.
	Yes, the big thing is the millennials now don't want to get a lot of ultrasounds because there's some indication that too many ultrasounds and some of these people are just having ultrasound, ultrasound, ultrasound.
	They're just doing it all the time and they bring a crowd and they got an audience.
	There's people clapping and jumping up and down.
	Then they do the ultrasound.
	It may have something to do with having autism.
	You know, that's so much crazier than vaccines.
	Okay, ultrasound.
	You know, you're zapping the kid with a bunch of high frequency sound that goes right through the gut and it shows you.
	I mean, I remember when I was a kid.
	There we go, everybody.
	We used to have fluoroscopes.
	Oh, I haven't heard that term in a long time.
	So you'd go in to get your shoes fitted in the shoe store, and they'd have this big, giant thing.
	It was a fluoroscope.
	Yeah!
	You'd stick your feet in this thing, and then you'd look down on the...
	It looked like a binocular top, and you'd look down in there, and you'd see your feet in there, and you'd see the nails in the shoes, and you'd see how well your foot fit in those shoes specifically, even though you should be able to do this with your toes, but no.
	And so you can see how good the shoe fit.
	Fit or didn't fit.
	Looking through the fluoroscope.
	So you would do this occasionally and you'd probably get, you know, it can't be good for you.
	And the same thing with these ultrasounds.
	You can see right through the person.
	Yeah.
	So I'm buying that one.
	But the millennials are okay going through the naked body scanner?
	That's okay?
	My son?
	No, your daughter.
	No, they will not go through that thing.
	They're part of the agenda community when it comes to this.
	But my son in particular...
	I always go with the, oh, my arm, I can't lift.
	Yeah, I can't lift my arms above my head.
	Okay, go over here.
	It's no big deal.
	He opts out.
	Very good.
	And I say to him, what are you opting out?
	You can get through this thing without having to opt out.
	He says, no.
	He says, if you opt out, it becomes a number and a stat, and it has some importance.
	So you always opt out so you can become part of the stats.
	Well, I like that.
	Yeah.
	And he insists on opting out so he can be comparison.
	And he's never more than one minute behind anybody else.
	They yops out, they wand him, and they stick a probe at him, poke him.
	Swab his hands.
	Swab his hands, you know.
	So a reminder for those of you who are relatively new to the program, if you want to go through the magnetometer, and of course you will, you know, as an opt-out, you don't have to say, you don't have to get into conversation with these people like, I don't like you, I hate you, the naked being.
	They'll say, you get more radiation from a banana.
	No, all you need to do is say, hey, I can't lift my arms above my head.
	And they'll go like, oh, I'm sorry.
	Okay, go over here.
	Sometimes you get through much quicker when you say that.
	Yes, sometimes, but not always.
	Recently, not so much.
	But now, you noticed a split, a divide within the millennials.
	Yes, the millennials also say there's a whole bunch of...
	There's a divide within the millennials regarding...
	There's a lot of political divides, and it has to do with...
	Hillary, Trump, Bernie, and it's like getting really bad and people are trying not to get into political discussions.
	But it was noticed at one of the tables that according to Jesse, and then everybody confirmed it, nodding their heads.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	The millennials, especially the women, are all taking up smoking again.
	Huh?
	Yeah.
	Why?
	Why?
	They're all taking up.
	That's what I said.
	What happened to vaping?
	Wasn't that their thing?
	No, no, no.
	Vaping is out.
	Yeah, I've noticed this.
	Vaping is passe.
	Yeah, I think so too.
	One too many vapes blew up and burnt some guy.
	I can't move my vape.
	So they're taking up smoking cigarettes again.
	Jeez.
	So apparently you see a bunch of millennials smoking.
	Is there a millennial brand?
	Is it like cool?
	K-O-O-L. I think it's American something.
	Oh, American Spirit?
	I think that's one of them.
	Oh, God.
	Hello, 1980.
	Oh, geez.
	Well, here's what I've noticed with millennials.
	This is very disturbing.
	And it typically happens when you're not getting great service in a restaurant or somewhere.
	I'll say, hey, this really happened to me.
	That's not really cool.
	Just like that.
	I'm a little disappointed.
	And the millennial will go, especially if I say it under my breath, I can say something like, look at her.
	Oh, I think she heard it.
	You can't do that.
	You can't do that.
	Very, very upset.
	Yeah, my daughter.
	Your daughter does this?
	I think a lot of millennials do it.
	Women.
	Oh, is it just women?
	I could be.
	Millennial.
	I've never heard a guy do that.
	Millennials, we call them.
	Millennials.
	I'm in the car, driving someplace.
	She's in the passenger seat.
	And window open or closed doesn't make any difference.
	Usually it's open.
	Some big...
	I make comments about things.
	Guy walking by.
	He's on the crosswalk.
	He's going through.
	He's almost over on the other curb.
	And I'm saying, man, that guy was fat.
	Yeah.
	In the car.
	In the privacy of your own car.
	In the...
	Yeah.
	And she goes, shh, shh, shh, shh, shh.
	He's going to hear you.
	So what if he hears me?
	Even if he does, he can't hear me for one thing.
	I'm in the car.
	But she gets all worked up if I make snide remarks about people on the street.
	Yeah.
	Isn't that interesting?
	I find it very unusual.
	I mean, I think maybe this has to do with the lack of teaching physics in high school.
	The sound maybe travels in some ways that the natural universe doesn't allow.
	What you're doing is you're actually triggering the millennial at that moment.
	And the triggering, as I've thought about this, the triggering is, we've talked about this, the over-socialization that you are not even allowed to have any bad thoughts about anybody, and you, you, John, you put a bad thought into the millennial's brain.
	And that's what, and they go haywire.
	And they go haywire.
	So maybe, I'm going to try this, I'm going to try this.
	I want to see if I can trigger...
	Just by randomly saying, look at that fat bitch.
	I wouldn't even say that.
	Boy, she's pretty fat.
	Let's see what happens.
	I think it's a trigger mechanism.
	It could be used very effectively if done properly.
	I don't know to what end.
	Well, and one more thing we had on our note.
	The 25th Amendment.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, that kind of fell by the wayside.
	I thought it was going to catch on as a meme.
	Now they want to get rid of the Ninth Amendment, is what I'm hearing.
	It's changed.
	What's the Ninth Amendment?
	The Ninth Amendment.
	I want to read it verbatim let's see The 25th Amendment has to do with impeachment.
	And here's another thing.
	That's been replaced by the following meme.
	I should mention this because I did want to talk about this.
	The 25th Amendment refers to how to get rid of the president.
	So...
	So the Democrats are saying we've got to bear down, and so in 2018, if we can take the House back, which they're not taking the House back, but they take the Senate back, they think, because there's so many Republicans that don't like Trump, they think they can get him impeached, although I don't think they know what impeach means or how you go about it.
	You have to You have to do a criminal act.
	But they think they can get him impeached for some minor thing, and then he will get ousted, and in 2018 he'll be good.
	So he only has two years.
	That's all we have to worry about Trump is for two years they're going to impeach him.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	Rob Reiner is one of these guys.
	Yeah.
	Well, let me just read the text.
	Not the ninth.
	Okay.
	So it is all about the in-case removal of the president from office, the vice president.
	It's just explaining what happens and how to...
	How to start the articles of impeachment.
	The Ninth, I think, is more interesting.
	I'm seeing this more as a meme.
	The Ninth Amendment.
	The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
	Maybe this is part of that millennial thing.
	What?
	You know, I have to re-familiarize myself with the Ninth.
	Sounds like a hate speech amendment.
	Yes.
	I admit, but I'm poorly prepared for this conversation about the 9th.
	Okay, well then why don't you re-prepare yourself for the next show when we do it on Thursday.
	But I'll say it again, the enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
	Does that mean that if you are retained by the people, I think this is that you can't call a senator a douchebag?
	That's something like that.
	Well, we're in violation.
	Of the Constitution, no less.
	This is not good.
	Okay, ixnay and the onsecutionay speech, John.
	I'm going to be very careful.
	I'll put this on the list.
	Somebody will have some familiarity.
	I'm putting it on the list.
	Okay, it's back on the new list since we got the smoking thing.
	That's the smoking thing, as I wanted to talk about.
	Yeah, that's very interesting.
	That is very interesting.
	Hmm, yeah.
	Yeah, they're getting nervous.
	They're just wrecks.
	People are wrecks.
	Wrecks, yeah.
	Hey, bad things going on in Paris.
	I think you brought up the riots.
	I know this is the same riots.
	And by the way, they still have them reporting the riots and all that stuff on any of their networks.
	Yeah, just on Euronews.
	Clashes have erupted in a Paris suburb as anger boils over allegations that a young black man was raped with a baton and beaten as police detained him.
	The skirmishes happened during a protest against police violence in Bobigny, which had started off peacefully.
	I've been feeling hate, says this demonstrator.
	Since I heard about the case, I thought this couldn't be possible.
	It can't happen.
	To see a conclusion that this was an accident, it's not possible for this to have been an accident.
	Around 2,000 people had reportedly gathered for the protest when hundreds of youths began throwing objects at police and burning nearby cars.
	Riots and protests have taken place all over France in the past week after the alleged violent arrest in the Paris suburb of Aulnay-sur-Bois.
	Four police officers have been suspended pending an inquiry.
	One is being investigated for suspected rape.
	Now, I think they might mean sodomy instead of rape.
	I remember this happening in New York with a broomstick, but I don't know.
	This is not good.
	No.
	Yeah, that's pretty much the same thing.
	It's going on.
	It's continuing.
	But these are violent.
	This is violent stuff.
	This is not just a little protest.
	This is violent.
	That's what happened in Berkeley with that woman, that teacher.
	Yes, yes, yes, yes.
	So I have a couple of last stories we can throw in.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	The one, there was, I get two, you know, the way CBS does, oh, and this is, here's a mistake they made, and they're correcting the president.
	Any little thing, yes, of course.
	Yeah.
	So here's a couple of, RT does the same thing, only they go after fake news stories.
	Oh, can I get us into the fake news then?
	And now, back to fake news.
	Hello everybody, it's time for Fake News!
	Now I have two clips, but I think I'm only going to play one of them, which is the fake news examples, the better story, which has two examples of fake news, how they work.
	And these are major, major news outlets.
	These are not guys just making stuff up.
	This is just, you know, you have to, the fake news thing, the meme is going to die because it turns out to be just bad reporting, which we discuss on this show constantly.
	But listen to these two stories, they're quite good.
	And fake news like this significantly contributed to the perception among many Americans that Trump's election was illegitimate.
	Politico's Lorraine Wollert published a report in early December claiming that Trump's Treasury pick, Steve Munchen, had overseen a company that, quote, foreclosed on a 90-year-old woman after a 27-cent payment error.
	The story was shared by the New York Times, NBC News, and the Associated Press.
	But guess what?
	Almost everything in the article was false.
	The 90-year-old woman was never foreclosed on.
	She never lost her home, and it wasn't even Munchen's bank that brought the suit.
	Eventually, the story was corrected, but as is true with many of these stories, people absorbed the fake news, but never the correction.
	On January 26th, The Washington Post's Josh Rogan dropped this bombshell, that there was a mass exodus at the State Department in protest of Donald Trump, writing that, quote, the State Department's entire management team just resigned unexpectedly.
	The story was shared tens of thousands of times on social media, reposted by The Washington Post, Bloomberg, and ABC News.
	But the truth is, this is standing operating procedure.
	Mark Toner.
	Hold on.
	Standing operating procedure or standard operating procedure?
	He meant standard.
	Standing.
	Reposted by the Washington Post, Bloomberg, and ABC News.
	But the truth is, this is standing operating procedure.
	Mark Toner, State Department spokesman, clarified, quote,"...as is standard with every transition, the outgoing administration, in coordination with the incoming one, requested all political appointed officers submit letters of resignation." The bottom line, Democrat appointees leave when Republican presidents come in and Republican appointees leave when Democrat presidents take office.
	The entire presumption of the article was false.
	Now, it's no wonder the majority of Americans don't trust the media.
	Now, I was thinking about this, and a lot of this, both of these sorts of reports, these are done by very young, inexperienced journalists. - Yes, the young news hounds. - Yeah, the young news hounds looking for a story, but they have no clue the young news hounds looking for a story, but they have no clue about how They're clueless.
	And they're reporting this stuff, and this is what I think most fake news comes from.
	These guys are just dumb.
	Or I shouldn't say dumb, They're not dumb.
	They're ignorant.
	They're incredibly ignorant.
	That's the right term.
	That's the right word.
	I don't want to use dumb.
	It may be dumb too, but that's not what I'm talking about.
	All right.
	Now, another one.
	I might as well get this out of the way.
	Yeah.
	Another one.
	This is, I hate to tell you this, but it's a gay end story.
	Okay.
	Uh-huh.
	It doesn't bother me.
	Why would that bother me?
	Bother me.
	Because he is the best reporter on our team!
	All right.
	What you got?
	Now, this is about the story.
	This is like the follow-up to the hacking the DNC and hacking this and hacking that story.
	And it may even include those three jokers, those three Muslim Brotherhood possible guys.
	Yeah.
	But this is like a follow-up story that was done by RT because I think Russia to this day is a little annoyed by the presumption that they did these idiotic hacks that anyone could have done.
	And so they're going to keep reporting on this, and they're going to keep following up, and this is a follow-up report.
	It may be one of the most popular news websites in the world, but Wikipedia has blocked the British tabloid, the Daily Mail, from being the source of any of its entries.
	That's after editors with the online encyclopedia deems the news group unreliable.
	Isn't this what you asked me to play?
	The Gyan RT Hackers?
	It's fake.
	Oh, this is fake news RT.
	I'm sorry.
	No, Gay Ann.
	RT hack.
	I'm sorry.
	Well, yes, I got it.
	I'm so sorry.
	Yeah, I was always put Gay Ann's name.
	Come back.
	There has been a twist to the headline-grabbing election hack in the U.S. for which Russia was widely blamed for tapping into the Democratic Party servers, with reports now saying it was an internal breach.
	As a result of an investigation, three brothers, Abed Imran and Jamal Awan, were fired from working on Congress's computer network.
	They're suspected of accessing specific areas of the system without permission, more commonly known as hacking.
	It's also believed they stole equipment.
	RT's Washington correspondent, Gainet Chichik...
	Jesus, I'm just...
	This is unbelievable.
	We have actual hacking going on inside our government, and where is everybody?
	And they're stealing equipment, which is funny.
	Where's the outrage?
	This is...
	RT's Washington correspondent Ghani Chichakan takes a closer look.
	The staffers had access to the computer networks of dozens of lawmakers, including those on the House Intelligence and Foreign Affairs committees.
	One unnamed lawmaker was quoted by BuzzFeed as saying, quote, they said it was some sort of procurement scam.
	But now I'm concerned that they may have stolen data from us, emails, who knows?
	Meanwhile, a number of congressional members who employed the three IT specialists have already fired them, but not all.
	For instance, as of Monday, Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz still employed one of the suspects, Imran, who is reported to have worked for her since 2005.
	Just a reminder, Debbie Wasserman Schultz was forced to resign from her position as the Democratic National Committee chair after her emails were leaked to the public.
	She, along with the Democratic Party and the U.S. intelligence community, blamed the Russian government.
	While the alleged hack by Russia was the main story in town, other security breaches seem to have flown under the radar.
	In October, police arrested National Security Agency contractor Harold Martin who, according to prosecutors, stole a staggering 50 terabytes of government data.
	Some of it marked secret or top secret.
	The prosecutors say the theft occurred over a period of 20 years as Martin worked with different government agencies.
	Chances are you've never heard of him.
	Anyway, with staff like this, who needs Russian hackers?
	In Washington, I'm going to check out our team.
	Holy crap.
	Hey, look, John, you got to share it with Guy-Anne, but I'm giving it to you.
	I'm sorry, I'm in a real one.
	I'm in a real one.
	Holy crap.
	Holy crap.
	Yeah.
	I mean, just holy, holy crap.
	We have 50 terabytes.
	I have a lot of...
	But hold on a second.
	So one of these dudes, not named Ben, works or still worked until yesterday for...
	Schultz.
	Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
	So now all this hacking stuff, now we understand maybe a little better why the distraction was put in place.
	Oh, look over at Russia.
	Don't look over here.
	You think these guys were involved in that?
	It's a nest bed.
	Yeah.
	Terrible.
	And even if it was a procurement scam, I'm pretty sure if you steal in procurement in the government, you go into jail.
	I'll look it up, but I'm pretty sure that that is an offense you can go to jail for.
	I'm pretty sure it's a felony.
	Isn't that something you go to jail for?
	Yeah, typically, yeah.
	Fake, fake, fake.
	Fake, fake, fake.
	You are fake news.
	All right.
	I got one little, actually two ditties of fake news.
	The first one is just an outrageous comparison from Chris Cuomo on the CNNs.
	So we have a new tweet.
	All right.
	Can I do the honors?
	Stand by, tweet alert.
	Oh, stand by, tweet alert.
	Here's a tweet alert.
	Well, it matters because it's about me.
	All right.
	Chris Cuomo, in his interview with Senator Blumenthal, never asked him about his long-term lie about his brave service in Vietnam.
	Fake news.
	Let's just please, just show the top of the interview.
	United States saying you should not be believed because you misrepresented your military record in the past.
	There's no question that Judge Gorsuch said to me that he found these attacks on the judiciary by the president to be...
	The first point that I made in the interview.
	The president, with all due respect, is once again off on the facts.
	And that's not something that any of us have any desire to say on a regular basis, but it keeps being true.
	Fake news is the worst thing that you can call a journalist.
	It's like an ethnic disparagement.
	You know, we all have these ugly words for people.
	That's the one for journalists.
	And David, he just keeps doubling down when the facts don't favor his position.
	I love comparing the N-word to...
	Yeah, that's what you...
	I mean, I really...
	Oh, poor man.
	The poor man.
	No...
	And I picked up this, and this is, I think, the last one I have for today's program.
	This is from UCTV, University of California Television.
	They have a TV station, apparently.
	They've had it for years, and one of the things they do, they put on a lot of lectures, and I eat these lectures up.
	I just love lectures.
	They're a little boring, but they're interesting.
	You learn stuff.
	As you know, it's one of those UCTV lectures that taught me that the absolute most, the perfect number of hours of sleep for longevity, so you'll live longer, by a sleep expert that talked about this for an hour.
	And you fell asleep!
	Is, guess how long?
	I don't know.
	Seven.
	Seven?
	More than eight.
	If you get six, it's the same as eight.
	If you get five, it's the same as nine.
	I've always felt this.
	If it's an even hour or an odd number, it's always good.
	I've always liked odd numbers, but these days I'm slipping to even, so I do about six a night.
	I wake up after six hours.
	I just wake up.
	I'm awake.
	Get up then.
	Yeah, that's what I do.
	I get up.
	Anyway, UCTV, nice interview with Garance Burke from Associated Press talking about the new partnership with the face bag to combat fake news.
	I thought this was, I've been looking for this, and there you go.
	It's on UCTV.
	Who would have thunk?
	Garance, one of the major issues that has emerged post-election is an increasing awareness that fake news was shaping people's perception of the candidates and of the campaign.
	What do the major institutions of the media do about that situation going forward?
	At AP, we feel like we have a very strong role to play in both debunking news stories that are inaccurate as well as lifting up fact-based, deeply reported stories so that people can have the vital information they need to make decisions.
	It's obviously important for our democracy as well.
	So Facebook and AP and other partners have recently announced a new initiative through which AP and others will be helping to debunk stories circulated on the social media platform that are false and call those out as such.
	Wow, fascinating.
	And does that mean a whole new section of the AP that is just the fact-checkers?
	Or do you already have a team in place that will be tackling Facebook and everything that's on there?
	Well, part of the report we've always had includes a section called AP Fact Check, which you may have seen, for instance, during the presidential debates.
	You know, if Hillary said something in real time...
	We would have a reporter, you know, debunk what she had said or, you know, essentially write yes indeed it was true for all of the candidates.
	So we're just expanding the AP Fact Check to include basically vetting of stories that contain falsehoods.
	So trending stories that are inaccurate we will be putting out there and debunking them.
	So coming to a Facebook feed near you, false, as certified by the AP? The AP and its partners, yes.
	Oh, see, there comes the verified little check marks coming everywhere on your articles.
	Yeah, you mean like the AP story about that Steve Nuchin's ousting of some woman who didn't pay 27 cents on her mortgage, which ended up on the AP, so I guess it'll be stuff like that.
	AP won't even put the check mark on their own stories.
	Is that what we're going to say here?
	This is bullcrap.
	Well, it's happening.
	Whether it's bullcrap or not, it's happening.
	And it's interesting to use the term debunk.
	I mean, why, if you're AP, is that something the AP typically would use to prove that something is false or incorrect?
	Debunk, isn't that more oriented towards...
	Yeah, let me just see what the dictionary says.
	Let me just consult the book.
	I think it's appropriate.
	Let me just see what it says.
	Loading slow today.
	To expose the sham or falseness.
	That's a little different than a fact check.
	That's to expose the sham.
	Yeah, that's assumed it was intentional.
	Yeah, in fact, literally it means to expose an intentional falseness.
	Yeah.
	Hmm.
	A lot of these fake news stories aren't intentional.
	I mean, the AP ran the story about to 27 cents.
	Well, for you...
	Hmm.
	Okay, so in that case, you could say that when they say something wrong, it's not fake news, it's just bad.
	But she's actually using the correct term by saying debunk because they only go after stories that are intentionally false.
	Yeah.
	Which, of course, makes you wonder about how they handle Trump, because Trump will say something like, oh, there's a million people that hate this, when there turns out to be 900,000.
	Oh, he's a liar, because he said it's a million, but it's 900,000 is what it really is.
	He's a liar.
	He's an exaggerator, is what he is.
	Yeah, he's an exaggerator, and they don't never say that.
	He's not an exaggerator.
	He's a liar.
	A liar in chief.
	Well, I've also figured out how he works, okay?
	Okay.
	I'm sorry, I said it.
	I slammed myself.
	I'm going to try it with you.
	I'm going to buy a motorcycle from you.
	Oh, yeah, I got one.
	Hey, that motorcycle for sale?
	Oh, absolutely.
	How much do you want for it?
	Well, I'm asking about $2,700.
	It's probably worth about $4,000.
	I can, but look at this thing.
	What a piece of crap.
	It's probably, I mean, this is not worth more than $3.
	Are you kidding me?
	Get out of here.
	See you later.
	That's how he starts his negotiations.
	He always goes big so that he can move back to a little, you know, just little bits.
	If people don't know that by now.
	That's how he does it.
	And then eventually he'll be like, ah, that motorcycle's okay.
	But, you know, he'll wind up paying $2,000 for it instead of $2,700.
	That's what the guy does.
	Yeah.
	He does.
	That's what he does.
	He's been doing that all his life.
	That's how he's gotten where he's gotten.
	Well, remember, if you really want some debunking, go to SnopesForSnopes.com.
	And that is the place.
	So what is Snopes for Snopes?
	Well, you should check it out.
	It's pretty cool.
	SnopesForSnopes.com.
	So it's debunking Snopes?
	Yep.
	Good.
	You get the Al Gore thing right.
	Snopes for Snopes dot com.
	Definitely worth a look.
	Alright everybody, I'm on the beat.
	I'll be on the Illuminati watch tonight.
	And what else is going on?
	We have Valentine's Day.
	Lots of stuff coming up.
	Yeah, we've got Lincoln's birthday.
	We've got President's Day coming up next week.
	And the Oscars.
	And another show.
	A big show on Thursday.
	We're going to do the same.
	Yeah, with all kinds of crazy stuff.
	It's nuts out there.
	It's nuts, people.
	That's right.
	Remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. We appreciate all the help that you send us in the form of everything and also financial.
	And coming to you from the Crackpot Condo here in downtown Austin Tejas in the skyscraper, FEMA Region 6 on the map in case you're looking forward.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We will return on Thursday right here on No Agenda.
	Oh, yeah.
	Until then.
	Adios, mofos.
	Where did this alternate universe story come from?
	Oh, yeah.
	A fire broke up!
	This young man, you were participating in the fire, what's your name?
	My name's Carter, and it actually started this fire.
	The violence that you see here only feeds the beast.
	A fire broke up!
	This young man, you were participating in the fire, what's your name?
	My name's Carter, and it actually started this fire.
	The violence that you see here only feeds the beast.
	So why'd you start that fire, Carter?
	The bellic and the score, president!
	The score, president!
	So why'd you start that fire, Carter?
	The bellic and the score, president!
	The score, president!
	The balance that you see here only needs to be seen.
	So why'd you start that fire, Carter?
	The bellic and the score, president!
	The score, president!
	Why'd you start that fire, Carter?
	The bellic and the score, president!
	The score, president!
	The score, president! The score, president! The score, president!
	The balance that you see here only needs to be seen.
	A fire broke up!
	This young man, you were participating in the fire.
	What's your name?
	My name's Carter and I actually started this fire.
	The balance that you see here only needs to be seen.
	A fire broke up!
	This young man, you were participating in the fire.
	What's your name?
	My name's Carter, and I actually started this fire.
	The violence that you see here only means the beast.
	You know what?
	You start that fire, Carter.
	I felt like it.
	And we score a president!
	We score a president!
	The ballot is in the score, President!
	The ballot seems to hear only the information.
	I'm sick.
	The ballot is in the score.
	While Putin is continuing to advance into Korea...
	She wanted to say Crimea or Ukraine, but out comes Korea.
	Yeah, and she stayed with it.
	She stayed with it.
	And the fact that he's wrapping his arms around Putin while Putin is continuing to advance into Korea.
	Korea?
	I think Korea.
	I know Pelosi's laughing, but you can't actually see her laugh because her face is so...
	It's like stone from the Botox.
	She's got so much Botox in her face that she can actually sell it.
	Everything is very educational.
	Because I think he did a good job running.
	And, you know, the zeitgeist wasn't quite right.
	I think I'm more to deal with the zeitgeist thing.
	So, this is the reality.
	A nut to the little hole.
	There's a nut in his round that throws a pile of them into his palm.
	To the little hole.
	Disrespect.
	But I think you can border on being sort of quite a ridiculous figure.
	And then he shakes his fist to try to round the nuts.
	And his fist to try to bring a nut to the little hole.
	Stop.
	This wasn't quite right.
	I think I'm going to deal with this.
	I'm going to say stop.
	And then he throws a nut in his mouth from his...
	Any nuts?
	And he throws a pile of them into his palm of his hand and then he makes...
	And then he makes...
	And he throws a nut in his mouth from his fist.
	Vladimir Putin are...
	Around the nuts.
	Around the nuts.
	And he does it.
	Bring a nut to the little hole.
	And thinking I must be living through some alternate reality now.
	F.T.M. Gay.
	He shakes his fist.
	That nut to the little hole.
	The little hole has to touch him.
	Gay.
	And thinking I'm up.
	Welcome to my show!
	The campaign was a dream, and I wake up other mornings, and thinking I must be living through some mornings, and it seems like he moves into a nut in his mouth, and then he makes a fist around the nuts, around the nuts.
	The campaign was a dream, and I wake up other mornings, and thinking I must be living through some mornings, and it seems like he moves into a nut in his mouth, and then he makes a fist around the nuts, around the nuts.
	The campaign was a dream, and I wake up other mornings, and thinking I must be living through some mornings, and it seems like he moves into a nut in his mouth, and then he makes a fist around the nuts, around the nuts, around the nuts.
	The campaign was a dream, and I wake up other mornings, and thinking I must be living through some mornings, and it seems like he moves into a nut in his mouth, and then he makes a fist around the nuts, around the nuts, around the nuts, around the nuts.
	Alternate reality now.
	K. To the little hole.
	Stuts.
	And then he shakes his.
	Alternate reality now.
	Throws a nut in his nuts.
	And then throws a nut in his.
	In fact, K. Shakes and throws.
	It is annoying.

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