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Is it clear what I'm talking about here, or am I way off base?
Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
It's Sunday, June 5th, 2016.
Time once again for your Gitmo Nation media assassination.
Episode 831.
This is no agenda.
Trying to avoid getting caught in the rain without an Uber.
And broadcasting live from the capital of the drone, Star State here in FEMA Region 6, Austin Tejas.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where we've got no rain, I'm John C. Devorak.
Yeah, well, we do.
We got enough for both of us.
Well, in a sense, I'm over here.
I need my gardens watering.
It's really ruining everything.
I said ruining everything.
Well, first of all, we had the ninth annual Austin Bug-eating Jubilee, and right around the time this was...
I'm going to start with that, I hope.
Yeah, well, I wish I could go, but it was completely rained out.
What, the bug-eating thing was rained out?
It was lightning.
You know, we have X Games in the last year in town, canceled.
It's just like, oh, stop the games.
Yeah, it's not been good here, John.
It's not been good here.
It's just the lightning?
They're afraid of the lightning?
Yeah, there's something about being on a metal frame flying through the air in an open space like the Circuit of the Americas.
I think there may be some danger.
Huh.
Did it...
Well, okay, if that's true, did lightning hit any of these things?
I don't know.
I'm just...
Look, I'm not Bill Nye the science guy.
I'm just telling you...
Seems like a lot of alarmism, if you ask me.
Oh, that's a shame.
I was looking forward.
Don't worry, I've got...
I had halted like we'd chew up half the show in the pub.
No, I got other good stuff for you.
No worries about that.
No worries.
Anyway, so, yesterday evening, Tina and one of her daughters and I went out to dinner.
And it's a walkable distance from the skyscraper.
Then all of a sudden, boom, as we're getting ready to leave, the clouds open up.
Now, I have not one, not two, but I think not even three.
I have four.
One, two, three.
Yes, four different ride-sharing services that have been launched in Austin since Uber and Lyft pulled out.
And I think I should tell you a little bit about them.
Yes, I think so, too.
This will be what you're going to describe, not knowing a thing about it, but what you're going to describe, I believe, will be a harbinger of things to come in other cities.
A harbinger.
It's our word of the week!
That's right, John.
You get to take the lollipop home.
So I have Get Me, Fair, Ride Austin, and Fasten.
Fasten?
Yeah, as in fasten your seatbelt.
Now, I really liked Uber, and I always took the Uber Black or it's Lux in some cities or whatever, because I don't want some dude just with his mom's car driving me around, so I'm happy to pay a couple dollars extra for a premium car.
GetMe doesn't have premium cars, but they have options between bike, car, SUV, and limo.
Sorry?
What was the first one?
Bike, as in motorbike.
Wow.
Yeah, well, it's not available yet, but I haven't seen any, and there's none on the map.
Car, which is, you know, three wheels.
If you've got four wheels, then you're good to go.
The SUV, they have a number of them, and then Limo.
So I tried this app.
Not last night, but I tried this app.
And every car I... In downtown Austin, there was not a car within 20 minutes of me.
So that one just passed by.
And I've not seen a car again within 20 minutes.
Yeah, the map looks really full.
Then we have Fare.
F-A-R-E. And they have standard premium and SUV. And I tried this one the other day.
A premium car.
Now, granted, he was 11 minutes away and pretty much where I was going, so he accepted the ride, and I'm waiting for him, and then about four minutes in, oh, canceled.
And this was my first experience with the premium car service from Fair.
Canceled.
Okay, not going to use that one again.
Then I went to Ride Austin.
This is the local initiative.
They have a great app and nothing works.
They have no cars.
They have nothing.
It's a good initiative.
That's not going to work.
And then this next one, which was alerted to me by one of our producers.
I think the owner is maybe Russian.
And they were really nice.
They gave me $100 credit to you with the code.
Yeah.
And no premium cars.
But last night as we're walking out of the restaurant, it's raining crazy.
Let's just order a car.
This one always shows cars two or three minutes away.
So it's the first time I'm going to try it.
Now, he's three minutes away.
We're waiting.
It's raining.
I see him about to...
On the map, he should be at the corner, ready to turn into the street where we are.
Cancels the request.
And I got charged for it.
Which they will return to my account in three to four business days.
There's a lot to be said about Uber and Lyft being a-holes, but I never had any of this happen.
This is shit that shows you what Uber had there, had it together.
Not that they're a money-making enterprise.
I guess you can put enough money into something, the service will be great for a while.
But none of these are good.
Every single one, crap.
Well, that's a big disappointment.
Here's the opportunity.
They're handed an opportunity of a lifetime.
Yeah.
Here you go.
We're taking the big boys out of the picture.
It's all yours.
Yeah, and it's so disappointing because I'm all for the underdog.
I'm even willing to ride in your crappy-ass mom car just to say that it works.
But no, there's not enough cars or drivers.
The three cancellations and three new apps.
And if you're ordering a premium car, you would think that maybe someone would say, oh, let's handle this differently.
Or give the guy a call or something.
I'll never use the app again.
Give the guy a call.
Give the guy a call.
Coming around the corner, canceled.
I'm telling you.
It was right around the corner, canceled.
So there's that.
So what did you do?
You didn't have a car.
How'd you get out of town?
We walked home and got wet.
What else are you going to do?
You can't get a cab.
You can't get a cab.
No way.
No way.
No.
Not when it's raining.
So sorry, but I do not have a good update.
So there's no update on the dinner.
There's no update on the bug eating.
You can't get a car.
The whole town's going to crap because you're city council.
That's what I would be upset about.
I would get on their case.
A lot of people are.
Hey, hold on a second.
What are they running Uber and Lyft out and letting these independents come in for?
It sounds corrupt because they are following the rules and handing over all of their data and paying all the fees and doing everything that's expected of them.
And lo and behold, you can't make it work, apparently.
I don't know why, but they can't seem to make it work.
Doing something like this apparently is...
Complicated.
It shouldn't be.
It's just ride sharing.
No.
No, if you really want to turn into a service, which is what I had become used to, Well, it wasn't ride-sharing.
These were great, beautiful cars that I could get on demand.
It wasn't ride-sharing.
I'm not sharing a ride.
It said it was ride-sharing.
It's called ride-sharing.
It's sharing.
Two people, you, somebody who needs a ride, and somebody who happens to be driving around aimlessly, will share.
No, they'll cancel.
He's not sharing.
He's canceling.
Not sharing.
He's sharing.
Canceling.
Canceling me out.
And by the way, that is mobilist.
Am I being a mobilist?
No.
Any driver who cancels on me is being mobilist.
He has mobility and I don't.
That's inherently racist.
Well, mobile is to be technical.
Well, yes.
It's a version of racism based on mobility.
Sure.
Sure it is.
Anyway, I did get into a Twitter fight with a professor, but maybe we should hold on.
Not Twitter, a Facebook fight.
Face bag fight.
Oh, I don't want to hold off on that.
No.
Yes, no, I'm holding on.
Okay, you twisted my arm.
Alright, so, let me just bring it up, because I had to screenshot this stuff to me.
First of all, let's start with the premise that there's really not a lot of very interesting news.
There's a lot of side stuff going on, like the Brexit and the Turkey debate.
Yeah, I got news.
Yeah, that's all good stuff, but there's nothing as good as local gossip.
What happened?
Okay.
So the professor, and mind you, this is a brain professor, headhunted, to coin a phrase.
Sorry?
Yeah, headhunted from, to be drugged out of UT to Stanford.
To Stanford, right.
And he and his wife are, of course, bots, but that's okay, and we're friends.
And he likes to post little links about stuff, particularly if it's about Donald Trump being a dick.
So he posts this and he says, I wonder...
Always.
Yes.
Always a winner.
Remember, this is a professor.
This guy is smart.
You should shut up.
I wonder if we have ever had a certifiable con man as a presidential candidate before, question mark.
And he links to an article from The Economist.
And we know The Economist has enormous Trump bashers, I might add.
And this is actually a very short article.
The title was Scourge, Not Savior, What Small Business Owners Might Wish to Know About Mr.
Trump.
And it's really one paragraph about a contractor who worked on Taj Mahal.
It was a $700,000 contract.
And at the end, there was a $200,000 balance and Trump didn't want to pay.
And they only interviewed, or at least they only quoted the contractor saying, what a dick, what a dick, what a dick.
And then a year later, after all kinds of bullshit and court cases, we finally got paid.
So the only thing I thought interesting about the professor's post was that the article contains no actual story of Trump being a con man.
You know, if you have a dispute with a contractor, even if you gyp the contractor and say, screw you, I'm not paying you the last $200, that's not a con man.
No, not at all.
No.
So, again, the question, I wonder if we ever had a certifiable con man as a presidential candidate before?
And the first comment from somebody, nope.
And then I reply, nope.
I reply, I reply, nope.
We only find them in the sciences.
Thinking that would be kind of funny because he's the one that turned me on to the falsification of data and this manipulation of p-values.
Oh, I see what happened already.
Yeah?
He took that as a personal affront.
To the max.
To an extreme.
So, again, I said, nope, we only find...
Fooling me, a liar!
It gets better.
Nope, we only find them in the sciences.
The professor comes back.
You spend half your life in the entertainment industry and you want to tell us that con men are more common in science than in entertainment or business?
And then, right after that, his wife chimes in, yes, all those filthy rich scientists raking in the dough through their science cons.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
So I'm trying to bring this back on track, because I don't want to fight.
I'm not going to fight about...
It's not going to happen.
You're correct.
I reply, all I see is a scientist who posts a headline about a con man that contains no actual story of a con.
Is it clear what I'm talking about here, or am I way off base?
Is it...
Would you understand?
You put that in the post?
You put in the post?
You asked a rhetorical question in the post?
That's exactly what I just said.
I'm asking you.
No, I didn't put it in the post.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I thought you were reading the post.
No, we'll get to that later.
That sounds reasonable, I think.
Read it again.
Okay, so I say...
Hold on.
Let me just make sure I get everything here.
All I see is a scientist who posts a headline about a con man that contains no actual story of a con.
That's what I posted.
Next.
Okay, that was a mistake.
What should I have done?
What was my mistake there?
What did I do wrong?
Instead of saying scientists, which referred back to the other commentary about scientists being con men, instead of using the word scientists, you should have said, all I see is someone.
Oh, okay.
Well, you're right.
That was possibly a microaggression.
Yes, no, it was definitely a microaggression in the sense of microaggressions.
Well, it was unintended, so that's probably where I went wrong.
But I keep trying to bring this back.
The professor replies, you don't consider telling people you will pay them for a service and then ripping them off by hiding behind legal action?
A con?!
It's not a con.
No.
At all.
Because you know what the word means.
Oh, wait.
Wait.
It gets much better than this.
Um, so...
And then I, so this kind of cross post.
Does he think a pickpocket is a kind man?
Does he think a shoplift is a kind man?
I really wanted to try and get it away from that because I was more interested in science because I'd found this webpage and only came across this as this is taking place.
And you need, you should go to this, retractionwatch.com.
I tweeted this link out.
Retractionwatch.com?
Yeah.
This is a fabulous site.
Here we go.
JMA journals pull three papers by same authors for misconduct.
PLOS 1 republishes removed chronic fatigue syndrome data that was removed two weeks ago because authors had no permission to release the data.
Authors reused images in three papers, despite saying that they were extensively validated.
Grad student who confessed to falsifying data barred from government funding.
This is just June, by the way.
Some posts, let me see, author committed serious mistakes.
Fraudster's colleague faked data too.
Lawsuit against publisher over retraction.
It just goes on and on and on and on, and it's all fraud.
Well, this is a good one.
Some posts you may have missed.
Impressive amounts of plagiarism.
PhD revocation.
Don't hear about that much in the science columns.
So I post that, and I'm like, that's kind of fun to talk about.
I'm still trying to get it away from Trump.
But no.
No one is saying fraud doesn't happen in science.
Nice job trying to turn away from the real issue here.
The real issue.
Trump didn't pay a contractor.
So I reply, come on, Russ.
Come on, Russ.
I know I had to.
Admit you used a dumb headline because you hate Trump.
It's okay to hate Trump.
The story is just not about a con.
I won't insult you by linking to a definition.
I'm sorry.
What is the real issue?
You don't want people to vote for Trump, and this article is the expose that will convince everyone?
Or do you just do it as a form of moral self-licensing?
Now I'm on a roll.
Anyway, my original comment was meant as a wink towards your recent post about P-values and the crisis in your field and others.
That's all, really.
No beef, no Trump love, or no Trump hate.
So how do you think he responds to that?
Well, I would say, I would say, if he was rational, he would have said, oh yeah, you're right, I got a little...
Okay, here's the way I... It'd be me.
Oh yeah, you're right, I'm sorry, I got a little out of control, got a little carried away, I was kind of stupid, you're right, I just hate...
I do hate Trump, it's a fact, and that's that.
I'll see you next time I'm in Austin.
No, that is not how he replied.
Because...
And we will analyze some of this as we go along.
Sadly, the professor and his wife are ill.
I mean, they have the sickness, and California could not be helping.
So no, his response was, I stand by my characterization as Trump, as a con man, given his history in business.
From Wikipedia, quote...
A confidence trick is an attempt to defraud a person or group after first gaining their confidence used in the classical sense of trust.
Confidence tricks exploit characteristics of the human psyche such as dishonesty, honesty, vanity, compassion, credulity, irresponsibility, naivete, and greed.
Now, he doesn't fit the classic image of a Karn artist, but I think it's clear he fits the definition.
I am not naive enough to think people who are planning to vote for Trump will be persuaded by this article.
I think that the only thing that could drive them from voting for him at this point is if he took off his mask and revealed himself as Hillary Clinton in disguise.
That's an old one.
I posted it because I thought some of my friends might be interested, mostly preaching to the choir.
You can call that moral self-licensing if you want.
So I come back.
Oh, jeez.
No, I'm trying to...
No argument.
You're trying to patch things up.
Yeah, I like the professor.
So here we go.
No argument.
Pretty much all politicians fit the description.
And yes, all entertainment is a con.
And a shit ton of contractors are con men too.
The Economist has a new editor and her choice of material is a new low for the publication, in my opinion.
I guess we'll pick up the conversation about science fraud and cons some other day.
Now, that seems reasonable, doesn't it?
Yes.
But, this morning I wake up...
I'll give you the response that he would...
I'm going to predict his response.
Well, okay.
He's going to say, you're right.
I'll see you whenever.
And that's it.
No.
No.
No, it's worse.
No, it's worse.
It's worse.
He did not reply anymore.
His wife replied.
His wife replied.
Oh, no.
Not the wife.
Now, this is after a whole day has gone by...
Jennifer, his wife.
What's with the protective bubble for Trump, Adam?
I mean, you put out all kinds of unsubstantiated, wackadoodle stuff about Obama and the Clintons.
How can you with a straight face then turn around and admonish someone for making the very reasonable comment that Trump has con artist tendencies?
Your litmus test for bullshit is astoundingly lopsided here.
Oh, and I assume you'll cover this story in detail on Sunday's show, yes?
Which is an ABC News story about the headline, ex-Texas official Trump U probe dropped due to politics.
And then she goes on to say, or is this the week that Bill is hospitalized?
Hill sure could use those sympathy votes going into the California primary.
They're going to wait here.
Well, let's stop there.
And let me just make an analysis just for her benefit.
Because she's listening.
Oh, definitely.
Both of them are listening.
Hillary is not going to waste.
Bill could be dead for all we know, but it'd be like Mandela.
He's staying alive until they get deep into the race.
It's the October surprise that we have.
Yes, it's just a hologram.
She mocks us, John.
She mocks us.
With good reason.
From the filters through which she views life, I understand.
Oh, yeah.
Now she's down in the...
And now she's in, I guess, multi-culti center here.
You know what?
When she gets mugged by a gang sometime shortly, she'll...
Don't put that out there.
I'm just sad that these very intelligent people...
Not everything that comes out of someone's mouth is necessarily against you.
You know what I mean?
This is a much bigger problem than Trump and Hillary.
This is exactly the problem.
We have a...
Now, I'm not your typical...
Facebook culture.
Yeah.
This is an award-winning professor in psychology!
Brain science!
Brain science, that's just different than psychology.
I'm sorry.
Yes.
But he...
This is a smart guy, and to have to see this taking place...
Yeah, but from his perspective, and this is very common in this area that I'm in, they have a very specific set of guidelines the way they judge everything.
That's why the state is just outrageously Democrat.
No matter how broke they make us and how much money they steal, the Democrats, it's a corrupt state.
No, but this is not the problem.
This is not my issue at all.
I tried four times to say, let's talk about something else.
That's not why.
I'm not here to argue you about Trump.
And then they slept on it, you know, and then woke up, and we're more angry.
This is anger that I'm feeling here.
This is real anger.
Yeah?
Well, it's because you're defending Trump from their perspective, even though you don't do that.
No, that is exactly the problem.
Why do you think I'm defending anything when I'm talking?
I say it multiple times.
Here's what I'd like to talk about.
It's a dumb article.
He knows it.
It's just, you know, one side reporting.
Not necessarily.
Maybe he doesn't know it.
Trump didn't pay a contractor on some bill during the building of the top of the hall.
I'm talking about the journalist.
No, I'm talking about the journalist.
Mobbed up operations that go on in New Jersey and there's something that didn't get paid.
Oh no, what now?
Yeah, what I'm talking about is, well, you know what I'm talking about.
Is this cognitive dissonance?
Could be.
Because that's what I accused him of.
Uh-oh.
In my final parting shot.
I said, hey, I didn't comment to protect or defend anyone.
Please re-read, re-read, re-read.
You're so hyper about Trump, you can't even read straight.
I'm marking this one up to cognitive dissonance.
People really are, you know, there's a lot, the same thing with Hillary.
People are very freaked about either one of these two getting in as the president.
Yeah, and I can guarantee you that we're going to see blood before we have a president, but it will be at the Democratic Convention.
It's not going to be anything with Republicans, except for, of course, the...
Outsiders, the Soros folks that are going to be...
Targeting the Republicans, but that's going to be insincere.
Well, listen to this.
Like it was in San Jose.
The sincere stuff is going to be...
Oh, yeah.
The DNC. Listen to this.
This is a little quick hit on CNN with Tubin.
And who's that?
Beckel.
Bob Beckel.
He's a political shill.
So we've seen violence during the preliminaries.
We've seen people getting sucker punched.
I'll just say what people saw, whether it was true or not.
Sucker punched.
Trump supporters sucker punched a guy.
What else did we have?
What other violence did we have?
Well, we had a lot of it.
In fact, I have a long clip if you want to get into the violence.
I just wanted to...
Yes.
After I played the clip from CNN, who, you'll recall, when there was one person got hit in the face, we'll call it a sucker punch, it was the lead for days.
Yes, it was.
Okay.
Now we have video of people accosting people, throwing eggs at them, spitting at them, throwing punches.
You know, we see people who are bloody.
The people happen to be people who want to go into the, who were either coming in or coming out of Going into or coming out of the Trump rally.
In San Jose.
In San Jose.
This is now how CNN characterizes what happened.
It reflects badly on people who are against Trump, but you're going to get that kind of thing when you get inflammatory statements like Trump makes.
And you're going to find people, any group of protesters, you're going to have a percentage of people who are just very angry and out of control.
And that's what you see.
Nothing he said can be responsible for third-party actions of people jumping on cars, beating a Trump supporter to a pulp, burning American flags.
There's no excuse for that ever, and words cannot provoke that and should not provoke that.
Jeffrey, unless you want to jump in here, I will move on.
Well, I'd just like to say, I mean, let's just not get carried away.
You know, in the United States, this kind of protest has gone on for hundreds of years.
It's not that big a deal.
It's a bunch of people, like, the guy got his hat knocked off.
I mean, you know, he shouldn't have his hat knocked off.
The last guy who got his hat knocked off and picked it up and tried to get it back was beaten to a pulp and was taken off the scene with blood rushing down his face.
That's what happened to the last guy who tried to get his hat back.
I think it was in Costa Mesa, California.
Yeah, I mean, there have been tens of thousands of people at these rallies.
One person getting hurt is unacceptable, but it's one person.
I just don't think anybody should, you know, think that this is a bigger deal than it is.
Okay, I misunderstood the previous time it happened then.
It's quite odd.
Not a big deal.
And did you see the video of the white kid being chased and tackled to the ground by the black kid?
Yeah.
Yeah, that was great.
Are you kidding me?
It was almost as though once the black kid tackled him, it was done.
Oh, man.
Oh, man.
That's so funny.
Yeah, I saw that.
They showed most of it.
There seemed to be one crew shooting most of the stuff.
But it was the same.
But this was the group you talked about, or the groups you talked about on the last show, that all trace back to Soros.
Yeah, he's funding every single bit of this.
And before we continue, just let me say.
Hold on.
How come nobody, except you, have ever mentioned this connection?
And this includes Glenn Beck.
Glenn Beck, when he was on Fox, would do nothing but draw arrows all over blackboards, all pointing to Soros.
But he won't do it now.
This morning I woke up.
And of course I had seen Hillary Clinton's foreign policy speech.
And the only thing I wanted to say was, to the professor and his wife, I love you guys.
You know, let's not get all crazy here.
Let's just chill F out.
Okay.
I love you, man.
Oh, this is unnecessary.
Unnecessary.
Ugh.
And by the way, I hold you guys in your space of wanting healers.
That's fine.
I don't love you any less.
I'm not trying to convince you to change.
That's how relationships break.
Actually, you don't want me to change.
That's no fun.
In fact, don't you know I don't want you to change?
I hope they listen up to this point.
Anyway.
They've already hung it up.
So here's some...
It really appears to be collusion.
We have Hillary Clinton doing her foreign policy speech, which was really about how Trump is not fit for foreign policy.
But the media...
Wow!
They really just...
They all kind of had the same talking points.
Actually, this is Bernstein...
He's a famous guy, right?
Bernstein?
Carl?
Carl Bernstein?
Yeah, very famous guy.
And, well, no, I'm sorry, I'm going to start different.
I'll start with CBS, the CBS Morning Show.
And this is where it's headed.
This is the, I think it's a coordinated effort.
CBS would be at the ground zero.
Because they're the ones that, according to Bernstein's own 1997...
Now, this is not Bernstein.
This is not Bernstein.
No, I'm just saying, according to Bernstein, CBS is the point man for the CIA. Here we go.
Is this perhaps a turning point for the Clinton campaign in terms of the way she ridiculed Donald Trump?
Right.
It absolutely is.
Yesterday was pivotal.
Yesterday's speech was not really a foreign policy speech.
It was more like a psychiatric indictment of her opponent.
It was a point-by-point indictment, using his own words as evidence against him.
I think she quoted him 41 separate times, using his words against him.
And the idea that he is unfit to be commander-in-chief.
Right, right.
And control the nuclear codes.
Right.
I think that what she's going to do over the next five months is keep hammering that point home, that this man is not mentally stable.
Here was a candidate saying, I am sane, and he is insane.
Now, this is what it's going to be about.
And I don't think this is the intent.
This was not the Clinton campaign's intent.
But I see the mainstream media, who are pretty dumb.
You give them a kick in the right direction, they get inertia, they just keep rolling, whatever you tell them to do.
They're going to go after Trump as insane, as mentally ill.
You watch.
That's good.
And I think you're right.
They're going to have analysis and, oh, he can't speak right.
Now we go to Bernstein, who had some refreshing things to say.
We are talking about a maximum leader, an authoritarian.
We've never had anything like this in our history.
And the question is, are we...
Which I think is not true.
We've talked about that, right?
We've had guys like this.
Woodrow Wilson would be a top prime example.
Yeah, okay, fine.
We're an authoritarian.
We've never had anything like this in our history.
And the question is, are we going to elect a president of the United States who is a thuggish maximum leader who operates in total contradiction, disrespect, and disdain for our history and our constitutional traditions?
But Carl, I love the constitutional traditions.
What is that?
What is a constitutional tradition?
I don't know.
He doesn't explain it.
No.
It seems like something that isn't very well...
Is it droning?
Is it droning?
Droning American citizens?
Would that be it?
Searching people's personal crap just because it's digital?
Yeah.
Listening in on wiretapping everybody.
Sounds like constitutional traditions to me.
Disdain for our history and our constitutional traditions.
Many Republicans have been the first to recognize this.
But many Republicans are also ignoring and mitigating these qualities you're pointing out as your opinion of Donald Trump because of what they believe about Hillary Clinton.
And this Inspector General report, well, from the left, you'll say, well, the Inspector General said the email's nothing illegal, no laws were broken.
On the other side, a lot of people who are looking for an alternative to her say it shows everything they want.
They never said that, by the way.
Sorry?
In that report, they never said there's nothing illegal, no laws were broken.
No.
Now, of course they didn't say that, but it's even better because Bernstein cuts right to the chase, and I appreciate him for this.
A lot of people who are looking for an alternative to her say it shows everything they want.
Let's put up the findings in the IG report that the idea that she asked for permission for this is sketchy at best, that the personal server made it different than anything that had been done before.
Let's cut to the chase.
Let's cut to the chase.
She's lied about this.
There's no question about it.
Whether you quote me, you quote Chuck Todd on MSNBC or Andrea Mitchell, she has.
And it's an awful thing.
And at the same time, you've got to ask about Donald Trump's line.
Who is the bigger liar here?
But the real question is about...
What kind of president?
Do we have a president in the tradition of our constitutional principles in this country, which any of the Democratic nominees, whether it's Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders, represent?
There are independent candidates who represent that.
But the question of Donald Trump is the underlying question in our history in this election, and that's what it's going to be decided on, I believe.
Now, the real message that is trying to be pushed is, you don't want, it was first, you don't want his hand on the button.
And now it's become, you don't want him having, well, I think people are saying his hand on the nuclear codes, actually.
Which also shows a very huge lack of knowledge of how our nuclear armament system actually works.
It's always a two-person rule.
The president does not issue the codes and shit goes off.
Uh-uh.
No.
He has to take that with the Secretary of Defense, and they have to convince the Joint Chief of Staff, and then there's a two-man launch sequence everywhere there's something to be launched.
It's not that simple.
And by the way, your husband, Ms.
Clinton, Secretary Clinton, lost the codes for several months when he was president.
This is a fact.
This is a record.
The so-called biscuit.
He just lost it.
Yeah.
Or the football, I thought it was called.
No, no.
The biscuit is like a credit card and you break it open and only the president apparently knows which...
It was probably found inside someone.
He was probably using it to cut up lines.
There you go, Bill.
Who knows?
So that is the messaging.
You don't want his hand on the codes because, of course, the president of America is the president of the world.
But the media will probably go more with he's mentally ill.
Yeah, I think that's what they're going to try to do.
The problem is right now the media's actual influence in so far as their audience, it's I think, and I think Trump's played to this, which is, and in fact, even your professor buddy mentioned it.
There's a lot of preaching to the choir.
Yeah, absolutely.
So the winner of this election is going to be someone like Trump, who gets these newbies to come out and vote.
And I think that was picked up on a very early clip we did a couple months ago with that guy.
He says, I haven't voted for anybody since Ronald Reagan, but I'm voting again.
I'm voting now.
And Trump has hinted at that he's brought more people out.
Absolutely.
Because, you know, we only get 40% of the people vote.
So there's 60% of the people sitting around on their butts that could vote.
I mean, they could elect anybody if you get them to come out or at least a good portion of them.
And...
They're not listening.
All the stuff we discuss on this show, and it's proven almost nightly on the Jimmy Kimmel show, when they go out on the street and ask people the simplest of questions, they don't know anything.
They don't watch the news.
They don't read newspapers.
They have a Facebook account, and they just talk amongst themselves.
Yeah.
Well, this just in.
From Salon Magazine.
Maybe Donald Trump has really lost his mind.
What if the GOP frontrunner isn't crazy, but simply not well?
And they go into a whole analysis of that he's insane.
And who reads Salon?
That's another one.
I don't know.
I do.
You do?
Yeah.
The left-wing people that are haters.
Oh.
It's a very leftist publication.
Yeah.
I mean, when you find something that's middle of the road or non-socialist, it's pretty rare.
It does happen.
So let's play a couple of these longer sessions where the news media goes off on Trump in one way or another.
And let's start with...
And it really is one of the most fascinating times to be involved in unraveling the media.
It is mind-boggling how this is playing out.
Well, what's intriguing to me is things like the Soros connection that no one talks about.
It's all his NGOs that are showing up with their signs.
It says, if we're the only two guys paying attention, and again, the guy who was always pointing the finger at Soros to bring it up again, which is Glenn Beck, he hates Trump to such an extreme, he won't even bring Soros into it.
That's the reason.
And you're right, he was always the guy with the...
With the blackboard and all the arrows pointing back towards Soros.
Yeah, he was the Soros guy.
But now, nothing.
In fact, I don't even notice that the seed guy is discussing this.
He might be.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
A lot of alternative media are discussing the Soros connection.
But at this point, even before you get the O out of Soros, people will go, ah!
Conspiracy theorist!
Hey, you got an organization.
It's at the event.
They're holding signs.
The organization is funded by Soros.
Where's the conspiracy?
That is the definition of a conspiracy.
Soros and the protesters and probably another party, might be the Democratic Party, are conspiring.
No, they're not.
That's the point of it.
People always like to call it conspiracy, but they're not conspiring, they're just doing.
Okay, they're being hired.
You're right.
They're hiring, not conspiring.
Yeah, they're hiring.
They're hiring.
Here's some money, go punch some guy in the face.
There's no conspiracy involved.
A conspiracy, the definition is really working together, breathing together is the real root word, conspire.
Doesn't matter.
What it means today is crazy nut job.
That's what it means.
So let's play this clip.
This is the violence in San Jose, which I believe is the one that most people are re-reporting.
I believe this is the ABC report.
The violence in San Jose transitioned to Trump and the judge.
This is how...
Now after your thesis about the insanity thing, this is...
Making sense.
Making sense.
Now to the new fallout this evening after those violent and bloody clashes in California outside a Donald Trump event.
Protesters attacking Trump supporters.
Those supporters were targeted as they left the convention center in San Jose overnight.
Some punched, some chased down and beaten.
Others had bottles thrown at them.
And just a short time ago, Donald Trump addressing the violence.
ABC's Tom Yamas is in California.
Tonight, Donald Trump condemning the protesters behind those bloody attacks on his supporters.
They walk out and they get accosted by a bunch of thugs burning the American flag.
And you know what they are?
They're thugs.
Anti-Trump protesters hunting down...
Now, I want you to listen to the way Yamas in particular, who's been insulted by Trump, is going to go do this sort of thing.
I'm going to point out what he just did.
He re-edited the diatribe that Trump was talking at the Reading Airport.
And what he did, if you go back and listen to it, he made it sound, he put two different segments together or even the same segment twice to make Trump sound a little nutty.
You know, the thing is, they had their burning American flag, they're thugs.
And then they came around as thugs as if he forgot, you know, as if Trump forgot that he already called them thugs.
He's calling them thugs again because he's losing his mind.
Because it was edited together that way.
Yeah.
And I think we're going to see more of this...
Now that you mention this thesis, and I notice it now, because when I heard that the first time, I said, gee, that was a bad edit.
That wasn't good.
But now I realize they're doing it on purpose.
And there's other examples of it as we listen to these reports.
By a bunch of thugs burning the American flag.
And you know what they are?
They're thugs.
Yeah, you're absolutely right.
Absolutely right.
Anti-Trump protesters hunting down the very people who back Trump.
Anti-Trump protesters.
I think it would be Trump protesters to be official about it.
I don't want to be a dick, but I think it would be Trump protesters.
Protesters hunting down the very people who back Trump.
Pelting a woman with eggs.
And by the way, the thug thing, of course, is put in there to show racism at the same time.
As you know, during the Baltimore...
Right, the thug thing.
Yeah, it was thug.
Thug means black.
Thug is black, you're racist.
Hunting down the very people who backed Trump.
Pelting a woman with eggs.
Oh my God!
Surrounding this man trying to get away.
Other Trump supporters beaten.
What happened?
I was walking in the street and this guy sucker punched me in the back of the head.
The protesters shaking cars, breaking taillights.
Police on hand, but it seems that they didn't act quickly enough.
This, if at all, I didn't see anyone getting arrested or anyone.
No, they did nothing.
I didn't see anything.
At least that was definitely a scheme.
This amid concerns about security at the upcoming Republican National Convention.
Trump tonight saying he has supporters of all races standing by him, calling out one man in the crowd.
Look at my African American over here.
Look at him.
Ha ha!
Ha ha!
So they pull that clip out and they isolate.
That's an ISO. That's an ISO. To make Trump seem like an idiot.
It would have been better if he said, hey, the black is here.
That would have been even funnier.
The black.
Hey, look at my black over here.
One black guy is what it sounds like.
We don't know.
It could have been a group of them.
There could have been guys all over.
It may have been a friend of his.
We don't know.
The sad thing is...
Edited for effect.
The sad thing is Trump goes politically correct by saying, look at my African-American...
But then it just sounds like my African American, which makes him sound like a slave owner.
Plantation guy.
What is he thinking?
What is he thinking?
Just stream of consciousness.
It's so wrong.
By him.
Calling out one man in the crowd.
Look at my African American over here.
Look at him.
I can't get over that.
You gotta give Yamas credit for coming up with the best.
I can't get over that.
But you can't give Trump credit for anything on that.
That is someone who has zero filters enabled.
Zero.
Because you just know that's going to stir up some crap.
Look at my African American over here.
I'm just going to walk through the street of Austin and try that.
Hey!
Hey!
My African American over there!
How you doing, brother?
How you doing?
Hey man, that ain't cool.
Put that piece back.
Look at him.
Are you the greatest?
Do you know what I'm talking about?
But now, Trump is embroiled in a new racially charged controversy.
Attacking a federal judge because he is Mexican-American.
Judge Gonzalo Curiel, who was born in Indiana and is a U.S. citizen, presides over one of the lawsuits against Trump University.
Have a judge who is a hater of Donald Trump.
A hater.
He's a hater.
The judge, who happens to be, we believe, Mexican, which is great.
I think that's fine.
But Trump now says the judge's Mexican background should disqualify him from the case, telling the New York Times, I have a Mexican judge.
He's of Mexican heritage.
He should have recused himself.
Trump calling that a conflict of interest.
And tonight, doubling down on CNN. If you are saying he can't do his job because of his race, Is that not the definition of racism?
I don't think so at all.
No?
No.
That is not racism.
That is speech.
That's not racism.
Racism would be, if the judge indeed was doing it because Donald Trump is white and hates Mexicans, then it would be racism.
I don't think just saying that is racism, is it?
This is baffling to me.
The racism accusations for everything have just gone off the rails.
You know where racism is really happening?
In the Netherlands.
There is shit going on, my brother.
Right now there's a new party with this former TV host who happens to be black.
Brown.
She's beautiful.
Beautiful color.
Beautiful.
I love my beautiful color.
I got to start talking like that.
There you go.
I'm going to count.
This is good.
And, you know, so part of this goes back to the damn Svarta Pete thing, the Black Peets.
And now people are losing their crap over it.
This is, you know, this racism thing, it appears to be a worldwide rollout of something.
Let's just, everyone, let's make sure everybody calls somebody else racist and And then meanwhile we'll screw them and put them on electronic money and they'll wake up one day when they're tired of yelling racist at each other and they'll be completely controlled.
Something like that.
Well, it's definitely screwy.
I want to hear the rest of your clip.
And tonight, doubling down on CNN. If you are saying he can't do his job because of his race, is that not the definition of racism?
I don't think so at all.
No?
No.
He's proud of his heritage.
I respect him for that.
You're saying he can't do his job because of it?
Look, he's proud of his heritage, okay?
I'm building a wall.
This judge is giving us unfair wrongs.
Now I say why.
Well, I'm building a wall, okay?
And it's a war between Mexico, not another country.
He's not from Mexico.
He's from Indiana.
He's Mexican heritage.
And he's very proud of it.
Alright, so this I also think is not a smart move by Trump.
I don't understand.
Did he get wrangled into this?
Or this just makes no sense.
You can say the judge should recuse himself because he doesn't like me.
And the judge did make some mistakes with releasing stuff he shouldn't have.
But this seems like, I don't know.
He doesn't want to go down to the nitty gritty and make the kinds of normal arguments that people would make.
And I think a lot of this goes back to trying to figure out what Scott Adams was getting at.
Oh, right.
Right.
About his power, his tools of persuasion.
About the way he does things.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so I'm not going to say, you know, I'm not going to second guess what he's trying to do.
And I'm going to assume that Scott is correct.
Scott?
Atoms.
Oh, that it's all part of a larger persuasive plan.
Yeah.
There's a third track that is being tried out.
So we have mentally ill, we have, what was the other one?
Unfit.
No, no, that's the mentally ill unfit.
Okay.
Oh, finger on the button, hands on the nuclear codes.
This one I thought was very creative, although I thought it was kind of wussy of CBS not to take it all the way.
They just kept it in a certain realm.
You'll hear what I'm talking about.
Donald Trump's inflammatory comments have been a staple of his candidacy.
The only card she has is the woman's card.
She's got nothing else going.
And frankly, if Hillary Clinton were a man, I don't think she'd get 5% of the vote.
And now that he's the presumptive Republican nominee, some corporate sponsors are distancing themselves from the Republican National Convention.
Trying to get his attention with that.
Oh, you're alienating the sponsors, but...
What sponsors do they have at the convention?
Well, apparently quite a few.
There's a list here.
Now, what I had hoped they would say was, sponsors don't want to pony up for the debates.
Because that's really what they want to say.
Like, oh man, Trump is hurting the money flow.
Because that would get everyone's attention, including Trump's, I think.
But no, they keep it at the convention, which, yes, is sponsored.
Color of Change is a civil rights group trying to get sponsors to drop out.
Aha, you see?
And this is an interesting group.
Color of Change.
This moment is about corporations making a very clear decision about connecting their money and their resources to the type of hate that Donald Trump has been selling America.
That is the CEO of Colors of Change.
Formerly, he ran GLAAD. Which is the gay, lesbian...
Yeah, that sounds like, yeah.
Makes...
Yeah, I know.
I also thought, oh, yeah, that sounds plausible.
Hewlett-Packard is one past participant that won't be playing a part this summer.
According to Color of Change, the company provided over $556,000 in cash and in-kind donations four years ago.
Microsoft, another RNC donor in 2012, won't be contributing this time, just technical services and product.
Coca-Cola, which gave $660,000 four years ago, donated just $75,000 this year.
Brands are being very cautious around their messaging for these conventions because if they back away from the RNC, that's problematic too.
Advertising Age Managing Editor Natalie Zamuda says the political conventions still attract large audiences.
Marketers don't want to be involved with negativity and don't want to be associated with a convention that potentially is perceived as alienating some audiences.
Zamuda notes many sponsorships are locked up in advance.
Google is still an RNC sponsor, so is Facebook, which says its involvement is a matter of civic duty.
If any employee of a major Fortune 500 company went into work and said the things that Donald Trump says on the campaign trail, they'd be fired.
Fired.
Most of the companies we spoke with stressed him.
He's trying to deliver a line, this guy, but he doesn't understand the way it was written is you're supposed to play it off like apprentice.
He would be fired!
That's how you want to read the line.
That Donald Trump says on the campaign trail, they'd be fired.
Most of the companies we spoke with stressed their decisions were non-partisan.
The Trump campaign did not respond to requests for comment.
And Gail, the RNC host committee told CBS this morning that it's raised nearly 90% of its budget.
I know a little bit about the media business, and this report would have not made it on the air without very, very, very crucial analysis by senior executives Particularly because they're naming names.
Coca-Cola, you don't say anything about Coca-Cola unless you know exactly what you're saying because they will pull advertising from you if they don't like your message.
Absolutely.
So there is something like...
All those big companies.
It could also...
Now, it could also be...
In this case, CBS, sending a message like, you know, you really should up your ad buys, Coca-Cola, or maybe you don't want to be put in a bad light.
I don't know.
Could go either way.
Could go either way.
But Coca-Cola, they're spending something.
You don't want to piss off Coca-Cola.
Or the telcos for that reason.
Or the drug companies.
By actually doing this story about the corruption in the pharma industry.
Notice how pharma and telecom are not in that list.
Yeah.
So that's where I'm at.
I'm just looking to see what the media will take and run with.
I think the media really likes the he's insane angle.
It sounds like from what you've developed, yes.
And I think they can...
It's going to be interesting to see how they handle this because...
It's just going to be interesting, because Trump's going to go after Hillary.
The way I think he's going to deal with Hillary, because she's going to stick with her, she's not going to have a lot of variety.
She's going to have her one or two talking points, which are very well presented.
I listened to that speech in its entirety, and she's very plodding.
It's one of those things where she plods along.
She talks very slowly and deliberately, and she has her talking points, and the talking points are obvious.
And you had them in your clip.
And so she's going to do this, but what he's going to do is he's going to go after the Clinton Foundation, her husband, and a bunch of other things, to force her to go on the defensive.
Because if he gets her on the defensive, he can keep her there.
And so she'll be playing a defensive game and everything's going to look like sour grapes when she pulls out her talking points.
Because, well, what about this situation here, Ms.
Secretary?
Well, Trump's insane.
I mean, it's just not going to work.
I mean, we'll see.
But let's listen to some more of these slams, especially from CBS. Oh, would you please not use that word, please?
That's been the lower third on my TV for the past three, four days.
Clinton slams Trump!
Slam!
Trump slammed!
Slam!
I get it, I get it, I get it, jeez.
I've never seen one of these, but okay.
This is CBS Trump bash.
Oh, that's...
What an old-fashioned word to use.
Don't you know the style guide calls for slam?
Trump bash of the week.
You can interrupt this as necessary.
Okay.
It was an extraordinary moment today.
Hillary Clinton warned that Donald Trump could lead America into nuclear war on a whim.
Even by the standards of this election year, her foreign policy speech was incendiary.
President Lyndon Johnson left it to an ad a half century ago to say what he could not, to imply that Barry Goldwater shouldn't be trusted with the bomb.
Nancy Cordes is with Clinton in San Diego.
Before we go there, so you remember the Goldwater period.
Was it like this, where people in the news were saying, oh my God, we can't have this guy with his finger on the button?
Yeah.
The person the Republicans have nominated for president cannot do the job.
In a speech that was deadly serious, one moment and humorous...
Stop a second.
I should mention that in 1964...
There was a, you know, we had a huge enemy called the Soviet Union who we weren't getting along with and their saber rattling was going every which way.
So it was at the, and this was right after the kids were all into the duck and cover thing.
This was a different moment in time.
Nowadays we don't, okay, what's he going to do with those codes?
I mean, the millennials don't even know what the thing is all about.
At least we knew it was the Ruskies, you know, these days.
Like, the Muslims don't do that.
Serious one moment and humorous the next, Clinton argued Trump's temperament makes him unfit to lead the free world.
Donald Trump's ideas aren't just different, they are dangerously incoherent.
They're not even really ideas, just a series of bizarre rants, personal feuds and outright lies.
This is not someone who should ever...
What is the point of yelling when someone says that?
It happens at Trump rallies, too.
I just want to point out some odd human behavior.
When you say someone's shit, people go, I don't know.
There is a, you're right.
And it's, it's weird.
Now, there is a clip...
I want to finish this!
I just want to say something coming up, because you're going to run right into it.
There is a clip coming that will have another edit of Trump, same way they did it on ABC, so it's spliced together to make him sound like a lunatic.
You'll notice it.
This is not someone who should ever have the nuclear code.
You know, you don't need to do much editing to make Donald Trump sound like a lunatic.
He's kind of made for it.
I agree with that, except if you actually listen to one of those hour-long speeches, he doesn't sound as much like a lunatic as if you start editing him.
In fact...
When Jimmy, I think it's Kimmel, when he does the Trump slowdown, like on half speed, I think Trump actually makes more sense when you play him at slow speed.
He's just as funny.
You can hear, because then you hear the words that he repeats and doesn't complete.
It's very interesting.
Someone who should ever have the nuclear codes, because it's not hard to imagine Donald Trump leading us into a war just because somebody got under his very thin skin.
That is kind of a horrible thing to say.
It is, but I can tell you, you can just know there was a meeting after meeting after meeting trying to strategize what to do, and this little spiel that you just heard came out of that meeting.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
This is the way to go.
We're going to do this.
Okay, can you do this, Hill?
Can you manage to do this?
Yeah, you know, we need to combine it.
That's really what it is.
And by the way...
Wait, let me finish this up.
Of course.
Of course.
Where they park the broomsticks outside.
No.
Here is...
This is the plan.
You don't want his hand on the codes, and he's insane.
You don't want an insane man, a madman.
Muhahaha!
That will be the image we're going to bring up.
Trump...
Okay, cartoon coming up.
Cartoon?
Syndicated?
Trump stroking a white pussy with a muhahaha laugh.
You'll be.
I like it.
She said Trump lacks the knowledge to be commander-in-chief.
Knowledge!
I know more about ISIS than the generals do, believe me.
Citing his seemingly cavalier attitude about torture.
Waterboarding is fine.
And about conflicts with other countries.
So they say, oh, you'll start a trade war.
You know what?
When you're losing that kind of money, who the hell cares?
There's no risk of people losing their lives if you blow up a golf course deal.
The former secretary...
Good one!
Who's writing for her?
Who's writing for her?
We gotta find out.
I don't know, but they're good.
Yeah, they're very good.
I always wonder what happened to the good guys at the Daily Show once they brought the Trevor Noah on.
Yeah, the good guys went right to Hillary.
They went right to Hillary.
The former Secretary of State brought up the many foreign leaders who have mocked Trump, describing him as, quote, dumb and barking mad, a man who changes opinions like the rest of us change underwear.
Whose quote was that?
That last one was from Denmark.
Denmark, the happiest place on earth.
And the barking mad one was from New Zealand.
New Zealand.
Where sheep look scared.
Happiest place on earth.
Denmark is the happiest place on earth.
Also the highest amount of SSRI. They've never asked the Dane about this.
Trump has drawn praise from state-run media in communist North Korea, which called him wise and farsighted this week after he complimented their leader.
You know, this must make Uncle Don's head boil.
I don't know how he does it.
He's got to be thinking, finally, someone who wants to talk and try and work this out, but dammit, it's Trump.
What am I going to do?
That's tough.
He said you've got to give Kim Jong-un credit for taking over North Korea, something he did by murdering everyone he saw as a threat, including his own uncle.
Didn't he feed his uncle to the dogs, which turned out to be...
The dogs shot him with a huge gun.
Give him the cannon.
It turned out to be completely not true, but okay.
And he said if he were grading Vladimir Putin as a leader, he'd give him an A. Now, I will leave it to the psychiatrist to explain his affection for tyrants.
Nice one.
I'm going to give you a clip of the day for that one.
It's making me happy.
Clip of the day.
Nice.
I'm glad that you brought the other thing up because now everything makes a lot more sense.
Clinton has begun to frame this race less as a choice between left and right than between steadiness and flakiness.
She gave the speech here in San Diego, Scott, because it's home to more than 100,000 members of the military.
The military Trump has described as a disaster.
Nancy Cordes reporting for us.
Trump was quick to react and Major Garrett is covering his campaign.
Ah, Major.
Hillary Clinton, who lies.
I mean, she lies.
You remember that?
I started that.
She lies.
Donald Trump started reacting to Hillary Clinton's speech yesterday.
Sounds like a raving lunatic.
It's not hard to pin the label on the donkey, is it now?
She lies.
She lies.
Oh, man.
Thank you.
Thank you, Lord, for bringing these people to us.
Who lies?
I mean, she lies.
You remember that?
I started that.
Oh, man.
You know what?
What would it be?
A great show?
It's too bad they hate each other so much.
What?
Wow.
Come on.
There's only one other person who speaks as crazy as...
Where is it?
I wish I could...
Okay, I'll spin it back and I'll find it for you.
Hold on a second.
Here we go.
Give it to the psychiatrist to explain his affection for tyrants.
Clinton has begun to frame this race less as a choice between left and right than between steadiness and flakiness.
She gave the speech here in San Diego, Scott.
Say what?
That was way too far back.
Oh, I'm sorry.
It's home to more than 100,000 members of the military.
Yeah, my mistake.
The military Trump has described as a disaster.
Nancy Cordes reporting for us.
Hold on a second.
Since you've stopped it there, I'm going to mention something else.
Here's a little piece of propagandistic work.
She gave her speech in San Diego where there's 100,000 members of the military, and then the woman that's following Clinton, a CBS operative, says, a military that Trump has described as a disaster, which the implication is that these military men that are in San Diego are a bunch of losers.
Losers, exactly.
And it was very interesting to slip that in like that, because he's...
Because he doesn't describe the military or those men as a disaster the way she...
Nancy Cordes...
No, as far as I know, what he's been talking about is mainly the procurement process being corrupt and money being lost and...
So...
You know...
This is...
Again, CIA... They keep bringing it up, but that's the CBS situation.
And they...
Trump has got to go into Langley and...
And talk to these people.
Talk to people, yeah.
...reporting for us, Trump was quick to react, and Major Garrett is covering his campaign.
Hillary Clinton, who lies, I mean, she lies.
You remember that?
I started the...
She lies.
Donald Trump's...
Classified!
You see?
See, it would work well, those two.
They should just do a show together.
Lies!
Classified!
Lies!
Remember that?
I started that.
She lies!
Donald Trump started reacting to Hillary Clinton's speech yesterday, a political art form known as the pre-bottle.
They sent me a copy of the speech, and it was such lies about my foreign policy.
Now, why would they do this?
They sent him a copy of the speech before?
It's called a pre-bottle?
This is a tactic?
Or what is this?
Well, they do release them.
Hillary thinks she's president already.
So when she's going to give a speech about something like foreign policy, this was her foreign policy address.
Yeah, about Trump.
It wasn't just a stump speech.
It was a foreign policy address.
So she released it to the media before she gave it, the way the president does.
That's why they had everything ready to go, saying, you know, oh, slam Trump.
Oh, boy, showed him.
That's what's going on.
I got you.
It was all ready to go.
Packages could be made in advance.
It's lies about my foreign policy that they said, I want Japan to nuke.
I want Japan to get nuclear weapons.
Give me a break.
Trump has suggested Japan and South Korea pursue nuclear weapons to counterbalance North Korea's nuclear arsenal.
No, that's not what he said.
He said if they don't want to pay up, then they should get them themselves.
That's what I heard.
He is temperamentally unfit.
Clinton's unmitigated attack sparked a Twitter tirade from the presumptive Republican nominee.
Trump did not delve into specifics.
Invective worked just fine.
At what point did we get personality profile comparison between Donald Trump and Adam Lanza?
That's what I'm waiting for.
And there's all the checkboxes.
Oops, sorry, that one.
No.
Oops, yes, yes, yes, yes.
You know what I mean?
That's where this is going.
That's where this is going.
Bad performance by crooked Hillary Clinton.
Reading poorly from the teleprompter.
She doesn't even look presidential, Trump wrote, adding, too much failure in office.
People will not allow another four years of incompetence.
Now, hold on a second.
Let me mention something else as we beat this to death.
Please.
They are making a huge...
You know, if you're going to go after Trump and you're going to take the Hillary side of things, you have to stop giving credence to Trump's common comment, crooked Hillary.
But they keep doing it.
I think they're doing it innocently.
I don't think they realize the damage that that moniker has.
And what it creates.
Crooked Hillary.
And why do they do it at all?
Because it's just a nasty thing to call her.
Even if Trump does it, why do you have to quote him?
It just doesn't.
I think they're screwing up.
Well, it wouldn't be the first time her campaign screwed up.
Well, no, I think it's the, well, it's not her campaign, but whoever's behind promoting her.
Yeah.
I mean, the networks, because I saw one the other day where one of the networks was going, Crooked Hillary, Crooked Hillary, and they're just pushing that meme right into the mainstream unknowingly, it seems to me.
If we take the political shows at face value, the ones we see, West Wing, House of Cards, and I believe there's a lot of what we see is probably the way it works.
Then these people, particularly when it's about campaigning, what's the other Veep, Madam President, all these shows.
Right, all these shows.
Mostly pushing the idea of a woman.
Well, yes, pushing the idea of a woman, but also showing how political campaigns work.
I think it was Veep.
Yes, the Julie Louis-Dreyfus Veep, where they call, you know, oh, my God, we're so happy we can get this guy, this political consultant.
I forget his name, Bill.
Oh, so happy we can get Bill.
And Bill comes in.
Bill's like, yeah, we'll take care of this.
And he actually has a couple successes.
And then they learn that Bill actually has dementia.
And from time to time, he just goes off completely and thinks he's at a different campaign.
But my point is that the way elections have been running all the way through President Obama's presidency has been in a certain way.
And there is no consultant you call for this type of scenario.
So they're going to make mistakes, definitely.
Because it's on a whole different plane that they're fighting.
Yes, I agree.
And they don't know quite what to do.
But they did have their meeting, and they did do what you suggested, which is put their three ideas together, and let's make one of them stick, that he's nuts, or he shouldn't have the bomb.
Nuts and shouldn't have the bomb.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Incompetence.
In addition to Clinton, Trump has problems with prominent Republicans on his temporary ban of Muslim immigration.
Scott, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said today the idea was so bad he would not draft legislation to debate it.
Major Garrett Forrest, major thank you.
Well, the nation's top elected Republican finally gave in and endorsed Trump today.
House Speaker Paul Ryan had been holding out.
Today he said that he is confident that Trump would help House Republicans turn the ideas in their agenda into laws to help improve people's lives.
Perhaps a recent blog post from Dave Weiner will help us understand the thinking of people who believe this was the speech of her lifetime.
This is one of the worst speeches she's ever given.
Why HRC's speech worked.
Hillary Clinton said all the things I was thinking as I watched Trump's interviews and speeches.
Probably the things many others were thinking too.
I said all that I could do, so did many others.
I said all that I could, so did many others.
But she's the only one who can say it officially and who can say it all.
We're lucky that he's only won the primary because then there would be no one who could tell the truth about Trump, the full truth, slowly and carefully, with poise, confidence, even humor.
But she delivered it deadpan serious, as serious as a heart attack.
Because as she says, this is reality, not reality TV.
Her speech lets us relax.
Up until that point, I honestly didn't think she or anyone else had what it took to stand up to Trump.
My feeling was we'd have to let the campaign run its course and hope the voters knew how to avoid disaster.
Now there's less to worry about because she's willing to embrace the madness and call it what it is and remind us that we're better.
This comes at a time when the press that Trump has been so good at exploiting has figured out how to challenge him and make him look like the incoherent poser that he really is.
We're not alone in our realization.
That's what we get.
And after all the crying by Sanders and his supporters about the establishment, that's exactly what we need to take hold here.
I don't think they get that the United States is a thing with a history and a presence in the world.
That our standard of living, such as it is, would be a lot worse if we weren't the dominant force on the planet.
If our dollar weren't the reserve currency of the world.
At one point in the campaign, Trump even said he might default.
What kind of insanity is that?
Which he didn't say.
A personal note.
Last year, blah, blah, blah.
What Clinton said on Thursday night was just right.
The U.S. is a strong country.
We have a lot of things right, but we must cut our losses on things that aren't working out.
She reminded us why she's the only person who ran for president in 2016 who was able to do the job.
That's exactly what I needed to hear.
Trump is a nightmare that is almost over.
He doesn't have a second act.
His shtick is good for TV reality show, perhaps even a sitcom, but being president is serious business.
There was a vacuum to fill, and HRC filled it perfectly.
What a relief.
Wow.
Yeah.
All in.
Well, did you see Hillary on The View?
I thought that was a repeat.
Are you kidding me?
That was new?
No, I may have been a repeat because I've been sitting on this clip for a while because there's something that comes up in this clip that is just got to me.
Okay.
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I have to tell you.
I love being back.
You know, obviously I've had the great privilege of representing this state for eight years, as you know.
And we live here.
We've lived here ever since we left the White House at the end of Bill's two terms.
And I just feel so happy when I'm in New York.
And now that I've been traveling around the state, going upstate again, I was in Albany yesterday.
I see so many of my friends and supporters and people that I've worked with.
It's just the most rewarding feeling.
And so, nothing beats it for me.
I love being here.
How has this run been different for you since the 2008 run against President Obama?
What did you learn that you're now doing this time around?
It's a great question.
I did hear that!
I think it was an old interview, but yeah.
How is that a great question?
How are things different this time around?
Oh, that's a great question.
That's not a great question.
It's a question.
It's a plain, simple, easy to understand question.
It's not a great question.
Great question.
That's not a great question.
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Hey, so I did some more work on the Hillary Clinton plane crash.
Ah, right.
Or helicopter crash.
Yeah.
And I also have, well, first of all, this editing of the tape is not going away very easily.
Not going away easily.
Of course, Matt Lee is back.
He's the guy that really started all of this.
Oh, yeah, and he's a guy who...
Yeah, back up and tell people what you're talking about.
All right.
It was discovered that there were secret negotiations going on in the end of 2012 between the U.S. and the new president of Iran.
No, wait.
Ahmadinejad was the president.
And previously, there had been a question if this was happening.
And Victoria Nuland, who was then Press Secretary of State for Hillary Clinton, said no.
She didn't say, we don't talk about it from the podium.
No, she said no.
So then it came to light that there were several meetings, although maybe not so specified, but this was admitted.
And then in this admission, the question came up, hey, was Victoria Nuland lying?
And it was Jen Psaki who said no.
No, she wasn't lying.
We don't lie.
We don't tell untruths.
Now, that piece where she said no, she didn't lie, was edited out.
And...
Well, this is very interesting, particularly that they came back and they said, hey, yeah, we did it.
We now know that the editor was female.
This has been slipped into the lexicon.
But the editor who was female, who edited this out, was asked by someone on authority of someone else.
Now, the only people I know who could make a call like that, which no one would question, would be the Secretary of State herself or possibly Newland, who at that point was a deputy.
Or assistant...
No, deputy...
Second in command.
Yeah, second.
Spock.
She was Spock.
Whatever.
So this keeps coming up.
Mark Toner now taking over the State Department briefing.
Of course, Kirby has kind of played out.
Kirby doesn't have the guts for this or the stomach.
He just can't take it, and he's messing up.
So Toner is a very, very measured guy, and he has interesting things to say.
Conclusion that you have reached.
This is Matt, of course.
This is Matt, of course.
He really has to think about this.
He is genuinely thinking about what he's going to say.
And he's turning the page, looking for an opening line.
So again, the question was, clearly it was the content.
This content was so damaging.
Why else would you ask it to be edited out?
So Matt Lee is kind of saying, what's the big deal?
Given...
Based on what you know.
Based on what we know.
What is that?
What is Matt Lee doing?
He just helped him out.
Yes, he did.
That was odd.
I thought that was odd, too.
Very interesting.
I didn't hear that before.
Maybe he's like, hey, wrong line, man.
You said the wrong part in the script?
I don't know.
That was odd.
It sounds scripted.
Yeah, let's just do that.
I've got to play that back again.
Let's see.
Given...
Based on what you know.
Based on what we know.
Wow!
Oh, you know what it might have been?
Did he say that earlier?
No.
It might have been him...
Yes, helping him out because he knows that's the way he's supposed to start that sentence.
I think he's doing a cutting to the chase thing.
I think it's an insult.
It's an insult to the guy.
Ah, right, right, right.
You know what I mean?
You're lying.
Let me help you out with your lie.
Yeah, yeah, okay, that makes sense.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Based on what you know.
Based on what we know.
It's done with a snide sound.
Do you think, or is there a sense in the building that what was said in that edited portion was somehow embarrassing or incorrect?
No, and in fact, I mean, so two points on that.
One is...
Even though that portion was excised or edited, it was always available on divids, the defense video and imagery distribution system.
Which would make, if it was an attempt to hide something, a particularly inept attempt.
Sloppy and really kind of stupid.
And secondly, we didn't view the exchange to be all that sensitive.
Hmm, okay.
I'm not so sure why you made such a big deal out of it anyway.
Jen Pataki, of course she is the one who was edited out covering up for her then boss.
She was happy to go on Brolf's show there and let everyone know that she had nothing to do with it.
Have you gone back, Jen, and looked over who was responsible for asking that videotape editor to remove that video, that sensitive video?
Wolf, I don't have any more information than you do.
This is a stunning case of poor judgment, whether that was incompetence or lack of experience.
Throw her under the bus!
Throw her under the bus!
A lack of experience or both?
I don't know the answer to that.
The fact is, as was stated in the previous piece, I had no involvement with the editing, I had no knowledge of this, nor would I have ever approved of it.
As actually the Republican you referenced before, I agree with the sentiment that the whole purpose of the State Department briefing is to provide a forum to have a debate and a discussion with reporters from the United States, but all over the world, about a range of issues.
I spent two years doing that.
Many of my predecessors spent even more time.
And this really flies in the face of that effort and something many of us spent time really believing in and hopefully delivering on from that podium.
Now, of course, after Jen Psaki says nope...
Really, Vicki Newland needs to come out that needs to say, it wasn't me, but I haven't heard her.
And I think as we drill down deeper to this, we're going to find out kind of where this is coming from and why it was covered up.
One final bit in this very transparent organization known as the State Department of Public Affairs.
A couple of points on that.
First of all, you know, and we've said this from day one when this allegations or this incident first came to light.
Isn't it interesting how they all default back to the language they're typically used to saying?
Allegation.
They had came out and admitted it.
It wasn't like allegations.
But you could just hear the programming, how they talk all the time.
No, no, no, no.
This is just allegations.
They had nothing.
But they admitted it this time.
One product, a video, was edited.
We've acknowledged that.
And we've made steps to correct the policy going forward so that that never happens again.
But...
There was always a transcript available of that briefing, and there was always a video available of the full briefing on divids.
So I understand and I understand and I appreciate the tough...
Sorry.
So they keep referring back to Divich or whatever it is.
Divich or whatever it is.
It's the Military Video Archival Service.
So this had to be something that...
I'm thinking...
Here's what I've just got to the top of my head.
I'm thinking this.
This was secret meetings that were going on.
And they were feeling each other out.
The Iranians and the State Department.
And...
When somebody asked this question, this had to be while the negotiations were going on.
You're jumping ahead of it just a little bit.
I'm just thinking that at the time this was edited out, the party that it would be targeting, in other words, who would not hear it because it was edited out, Would not be a party that would have access or care about the archives.
No.
And the archives are public.
By the way, the archives are public.
Anyone can go to...
Yeah, but nobody would go there if they're...
I mean, not everyone's going to go immediately and say, well, maybe there's some bullshit in here.
I'm going to go dig around the archives.
You just hear this edited version and say, okay, I'm good with that.
Well, yeah.
Unless you saw it, because you go, hold on a second, what was that big white flash?
Yeah, but if you're an intelligence agency working for the Iranians, you're not going to be doing that much work.
Now, so this would have happened around December of 2012, when a secret meeting took place.
Let me finish this one clip.
It's about 45 seconds, and then we need to figure out if our thesis fits and why.
Briefing on divids.
So I understand, and I appreciate the tough questions that you all are asking us in this room, and we are doing our best to answer, but there's a lot of overblown rhetoric beyond this room about what happened and what transpired.
We believe we have conducted an inquiry into what happened.
We don't have the answers ultimately why this was done or why this was requested.
And so, like many of you, we're asking ourselves the same questions.
We don't have any further leads to investigate.
So we're at, as I said yesterday, a bit of a dead end.
But we're going to continue to, as we get information, more information, we'll pursue that.
But what's important here is that we take steps so it doesn't happen in the future.
Here is the timeline.
Secret Talks, we found out in December 2013.
This was Rosen, the Fox News guy, I guess, who discovered that the denial had been deleted.
Yes, the denial had been deleted.
In December 2012, a number of things happened.
That were direct result of secret negotiations between the U.S., we're not quite sure, and Iran.
And the date in particular, let me see, I have it here.
So we have an ABC News report.
ABC News reported an emergency landing of a U.S. plane in Iran.
This was reported December 31st, but the report came out a week earlier.
A small American commercial plane left Iran Sunday after it was repaired following an emergency landing at an Iranian airport this month.
The plane was forced to land 16 days ago at the airport of the southern city of Avaz, A-H-V-A-Z, due to technical failure.
Mahmoud Rouzinejad, head of the state-owned Iran Airports Company, told the TV station.
Okay.
He said three passengers left Iran for Arab countries in the Gulf, but the plane remained under repair at the airport.
He said the plane took off from Iran Sunday upon arrival of needed spare parts and completion of repairs.
It was not clear why the announcement of the plane's landing was not made earlier.
The service was provided through Iran, etc., The service was provided, though Iran and U.S. are at odds over Tehran's suspected nuclear program.
The West believes it might be aimed at weapons development, a charge Iran denies.
Then we have Wall Street Journal, who at the time reported secret dealings with Iran led to the nuclear talks.
Now, what apparently happened is Hillary was going from Bahrain to Oman.
On a C-12, which I think that's very...
I'm not sure, but I think that may be like a King Air 350.
Oh, the C-12 Huron.
That's not a huge plane.
Apparently, they, or what happened, we do have the reports of that, instead of going directly to Oman, the plane deviated for an emergency landing at Abed's airport, where two hours before, and it's a commercial airport, President Ahmadinejad's airplane had landed, so we presume he was there.
But upon landing, the way the technical report is written, they exited the runway, which is not good.
The undercarriage collapsed, and they probably flipped over, but it was bumpy landing for sure.
Now, the information I could find was that Hillary Clinton was badly injured.
She was bleeding profusely, and there was...
The Navy SEAL, actually the Navy SEAL who claimed to have killed Bin Laden, and his name...
Well, there's two of those.
There's a couple of them.
Commander Price...
He was U.S. Navy SEAL Team 4.
Now, the conflicting reports are that he died in this crash, and he did escort multiple important state officials around the region, so we know he did that.
But instead of him showing up dead at this airport, he committed suicide in Afghanistan two days later.
And, you know, this guy's record, just none of it makes a lot of sense why he would commit suicide.
Now, this is when we heard, because Hillary was...
But they didn't have a lot of respect for him.
If that's what they're going to...
How are they going to finish him off?
Well, so we're going to get to the big questions.
I'm just telling you, this is the timeline as I've been able to find out what happened.
Okay, continue.
For our thesis.
Okay.
Hillary was supposed to be back to testify for Benghazi, but then she got the flu.
You remember, oh, she has a stomach bug, and everyone was, oh, yeah, she has the Benghazi flu.
That's what all the Republicans were saying.
Oh, she has the Benghazi flu.
Then we went from that flu into a viral infection, intestinal infection, I think.
And then we got the, oh, she fell down and a blood clot dislodged in her head.
And they were treating that with blood thinners.
And I know we have a number of doctors.
And in fact, at the time, I don't know if I cliffed that.
At the time, there was the NBC doctor standing outside the hospital.
You remember she was in the hospital and everyone was, oh, what's going on?
And even that guy said, it's kind of odd.
You don't really want to treat a blood clot with blood thinners.
But okay, maybe there's something else going on.
We don't know.
Now...
Clinton resigned not long after she got out of the hospital, but Kerry was already appointed before she officially resigned.
And I found reports dating back to 2013 that say Hillary may not make it.
Now, we didn't know it was possibly a plane crash, but also take a look at the parting gift the State Department gave her.
They gave her a crash helmet.
It's just all of these little things.
I didn't remember that.
Now, around the same time, when these talks took place, there were about eight or nine different Iranian prisoners released.
And there was a lot of surprise about how fast they were released.
It was all guys who were selling illegal arms to Iran.
All of them smuggling arms.
So, they got released.
Five or six, maybe even eight of them, I'm looking for that list, were released back to Iran.
And that was kept kind of quiet.
I don't remember a lot about that, for sure.
So...
And I'm not quite sure why, because here's where it kind of starts to break down for me.
I totally can see these secret talks going on.
We can place Ahmadinejad and possibly a U.S. military aircraft, although they say commercial in the report.
But if the president is on my plane, it's Air Force One, believe me.
That's my call sign.
And so the Secretary of State has similar privileges.
We did a deal.
Now I'm just kind of hypothesizing.
So she went there and said, look, we've got to get something going on.
And I don't know what we were coming with, but we wanted something from them.
This nuclear deal, perhaps.
I'm not quite sure what it had to be.
And we were willing to negotiate with arms dealers and prisoners and all the kinds of stuff that is not, what do you call it, constitutional tradition.
Let's call it that.
But is that enough to have to cover this up?
And that's why we're missing something.
I believe that Hillary said, Vicky Newland, let's just get that out of there.
I don't want that searchable anywhere.
I don't want that popping up.
We've got to leave that for what it is.
Because it probably was her call to lie.
Which Newland did.
So those are the only two that makes any sense that they would make this call.
And the only two who any editor would recognize as, hey, that's enough for me.
I don't have to get any other kind of permission.
Victoria Newland and Hillary Clinton, the Bosch?
But is that enough?
What really is the reason that it was...
Maybe it's just they covered it up and now the cover-up is more embarrassing than what they actually did.
That's possible.
Because it seems like a pretty shoddy cover-up.
It may have been just a casual...
Oh, I'd like to get that out of there because that's kind of like...
It could bite us in the ass maybe if somebody found out we actually did something.
I mean, it could have been just some casual thing.
Just edit it out.
It's not a big deal kind of thing.
Right, but now the cover-up is worse than the crime.
Well, now it's drawing attention to it.
It's such an extreme that you've found all these documents to show that she was flying around.
Well, how about this?
But here's a question.
If, in hindsight, right now today, let's just say there was no cover-up.
Even back then, if Hillary Clinton, for her country, we presume, maybe he had all kinds of backdoors and deals with the Clinton Foundation, irrelevant, If she risked her life and she was harmed severely, why isn't she the war hero?
Why was this strategy chosen?
I think it was judgment call.
Democrats are freaked out about being condemned for, you know, doing these sorts of deals, especially behind closed doors, unless maybe the Clinton Foundation was involved, which would, you know...
Well, then that would make sense, yes.
Sketchy.
So the last thing we need right now, this is the...
It doesn't matter what happened now.
If we can, or we...
I would like to do it.
I'd love to.
It'd be funny.
We need to connect Hillary Clinton to the editing of the tape if we want to make this into a thesis that works.
I don't think so.
It has to be her.
Well, but this is what...
Matt Lee smells that.
He smells her on this.
Yeah.
So how do you get that?
I personally don't think it's important.
Well, I'll tell you why.
I'll tell you why.
It makes a difference for the elections.
Yeah.
No.
And who's going to bust her?
The only person that could bust her, it had to be her in Newland.
That's why Newland...
You notice how Newland went from being a spokeshole, standing up to being the second in command out of the blue...
Floating around Ukraine and all the rest of it.
I mean, she's probably...
She's thick as thieves with Hillary.
She's not gonna...
She'll fall on her sword before she busts Hillary.
Where in the world is Victoria Kagan Noodleman?
Well, now that we have Robert Kagan endorsing Hillary Clinton, I'm sure that Vicky will be very, very quiet.
Very quiet.
So...
You know, the messy bits are the Navy SEAL who committed suicide.
Very, very messy.
Yeah, that was poorly done.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So this was December 2012.
The death of Navy SEAL commander in Afghanistan is being investigated as a possible suicide, military officials told ABC News Today.
On Saturday, the Pentagon announced the death in Afghanistan of Navy Commander Job W. Price, 42, of Pottstown, PA. Price died Saturday when a Defense Department press release described as a non-combat-related injury.
Well, he got that part right.
Let's see.
Two military officials confirmed to ABC News Price's death is being investigated as a possible suicide.
So we don't know.
Oh yeah, one of the officials said Price was found on base with an apparent gunshot wound to his person.
And that's all we ever heard.
Hmm.
That's all we ever heard.
Well, they're screwing him over.
But it's...
It's very odd.
And I think there's something here, and it wouldn't surprise me if some press just keeps on going, seeing if they can...
They want to pin it to somebody.
And quite honestly, they should have long, long had a patsy.
Yes.
The problem is developing a scenario around the Patsy, because it's such a short thing that was removed, I don't know what kind of creative writer it would take, but it would take somebody with a lot of skills.
Because why would you do that?
I don't know.
It's baffling.
It's baffling.
Yeah, it's a problem because it's not big enough of a edit to make it, you know, you could come up with all kinds of good stories.
Yeah.
If it was more to it.
Yeah.
It's a big screw-up.
It'll be funny to watch.
And now, back to real news.
What Killed Prince is no longer a mystery.
It is spelled out in black and white from the Midwest Medical Examiner's Report.
It's just a page long, but it gives us both the cause and manner of death, which is what the law requires.
Nothing more than that.
The manner of death was an accident.
They said that Prince self-administered fentanyl and that he died from fentanyl toxicity.
What is fentanyl?
It is the strongest opioid-based painkiller on the market.
It is 50 to 100 times stronger than morphine and 25 to 50 times stronger than heroin.
I'm thinking this is an ad.
This is native ad right here.
Come on, everybody.
Get your fentanyl.
Sounds like it.
And notice they do not use the clinical, the brand names, obviously.
Fentora, what is it?
Actic.
What about Fenfen?
There's a patch.
There's a patch.
Mylan.
Sandoz.
Yeah, there's tons of this stuff.
We're talking about a really potent painkiller.
What we do not yet know is exactly how Prince got it.
Was he prescribed fentanyl by a doctor or did he get it some other way?
And that is what law enforcement will be still looking into.
What's that?
Online?
Online.
From Canada.
Still an investigation going on into why Prince died and how he was able to get a hold of some of these medications.
If they turn out not to be legal, then this will change into a criminal investigation.
We know that the law enforcement officials and law enforcement have been talking to the people around Prince.
They've also been talking to the doctors.
And we know that he saw a doctor the day before he died and a couple weeks prior to that.
So there are still a lot of unanswered questions, but we do finally know the answer to one of the big burning questions.
Why Prince died and what killed him?
And it is very clear in the report that it was fentanyl toxicity that took the megastar's life.
Well, there you go.
That will be the story.
I wish kids would all be thinking about this instead of...
Which doctor did it?
No.
This stuff is killing you.
Period.
Prince.
Prince.
Mr.
Clean.
Yeah, that's the funniest ironic part.
It's kind of the same thing.
Elvis Presley was the same thing.
He felt that...
I've been doing some research on Elvis Presley for some reason.
I know.
I know what you're doing.
And he...
It was the same way.
He wouldn't take drugs, wouldn't drink, wouldn't do all this stuff, but apparently felt that if a doctor prescribed it, that's not a drug.
It's a prescription.
While we're talking about heroes like that, your thoughts on Muhammad Ali?
Since this is all we're seeing on television, is there an actual story that you'd like to relate that could be handy for our producers at the next dinner party?
Not really.
I mean, I do think that he was, as I mentioned in the newsletter, kind of taken out of the game for a while because he was another one of these guys.
Elvis Presley was another one.
Yeah, he didn't want to go to Vietnam.
He didn't want to fight.
Did join the army when he was drafted, but every time the society, especially during these eras back 20 years ago, 30 years ago, 40 years ago, when somebody came up doing societal disruption, which definitely was the case with rock and roll...
And especially Elvis, you had to take him out of the picture.
So you drafted him.
There's really no reason to draft a guy like that.
And the same thing with Muhammad Ali.
He appeared as though the disruptions that were taking place during his era, he had something to do with.
Because of the way he was.
He was uppity.
And so let's draft him.
And he wouldn't go.
He wouldn't play with the program.
And so the next thing you know, he's a Muslim, and then he's practicing, and then he's not fighting anymore.
So he went right through his prime year.
Most boxers, or a lot of trainers will say this, even though some of these boxers seem to be able to fight in their 40s, that the point at which your body is absolutely the best it can ever be in terms of that you can maintain it, but the best it ever can be is at the age of 27.
We never got to watch Muhammad Ali.
No, we didn't.
It was always before and after.
I do remember getting up in the middle of the night, though, to watch the thriller in Manila.
I saw that fight too.
I think that one of those fights with Joe Frazier is the one that damaged him.
Joe Frazier, who I got to meet once and chat with, he's a really interesting character.
He beat the crap out of Ali.
That's when he was doing rope-a-dope and letting Frazier punch himself out, but he was punching himself out by pounding him.
You know, I think if you watch those Frazier fights, you can see that Muhammad Ali was brain damaged by Frazier.
Mm-hmm.
And if you look at Frazier, which is an interesting boxer, he is very much like a Mike.
Mike Tyson got a lot of his style from Frazier.
He'd just call him Smoke and Joe.
He'd come in and just start wailing on you.
And he was a fantastic boxer.
Anyway.
Alright.
Is there an icon that we can use to show our love and light for the champ?
Is there an icon?
I haven't seen one crop up.
Oh, I gotta tell you.
There's this new thing.
I've already seen it in the chat room.
This is, you know, if you want to talk about just sad.
There's a new thing the kids are doing on the tweeters more than the face bags.
Yeah.
So if you want to, and it's actually now it's coming from all sides.
If you want to call someone out as a Zionist or a Jew, like you, filthy Jew lover, which they would do to you, then you tweet someone's name with three parentheses around their name on each side.
Okay.
Why?
Because that is now the signal for, you know, either that person's a Jew or that person's a Jew lover or a Zionist or Jews.
Where did this crop up?
It's been going on for a couple months, but I think it's kind of breaking mainstream now.
I'm seeing people tweet my name with three parentheses.
Oh, really?
So there's Jew haters?
Well, and now Jewish groups are doing it themselves, and so then there's Muslims, and now everyone's trying to get in so we can annihilate it.
Yeah, it's just a mess, and it uses up my...
It's using up six valuable characters, people.
Of your 140 allotment.
Well, that's going to end shortly anyway, so nobody cares.
Ah, there you go.
I just thought I'd...
Just wander the characters.
I just thought I'd bring that up in case you saw it.
I have not seen it, and I'm glad you brought me up to speed.
May I have your attention, please?
Yeah.
Zika, zika, zika, zika, zika.
Yeah.
Where's the money?
All right, everybody.
Small heads are coming.
You're going to do it.
You watch.
We're going to have...
Well, just to keep tabs on how the propaganda is working, again, I'd like to reiterate that this $1.9 billion was the budget for Ebola coming from a multinational collection of non-governmental organizations and governments, and there was still money outstanding.
About $1.3 billion.
Most of it from the UK, who owe us about half a billion.
But also from organizations like the Silicon Valley Friends Club, $25 million.
And what's happening is all the companies this money was promised to, which includes NIH, $800 million going for research.
A lot of scientists are looking for this money to come through.
And it's not happening.
And why is it not happening?
Because the money is simply not there.
And everybody knows it.
But of course, the propaganda works, and Bill Maher is all in.
$1.9 billion is what President Obama asked to fight this about five months ago.
And the Republican Congress, in all their glory, said, you know what?
We've never said yes to anything.
A plague is upon us.
Still no.
A plague is upon us.
Better to have a plague than to give Obama...
A plague is upon us, John.
A plague is upon us.
Yeah, no.
Whoever was voting against it, this is bullcrap.
This is just handing money to friends.
Better to have a plague than to give Obama a win.
But it's here now.
A woman in New Jersey has it.
They're saying there is laboratory evidence that 300 women in America or American colonies might have it.
I hadn't heard this.
I particularly like the laboratory evidence that there's 300 women who have it.
What is that?
It seems like quite a kind...
What, they have a little petri dish with everyone's DNA? They can answer these people who are susceptible.
There was a bunch of pregnant women that came in from overseas and they asked to be tested or they were tested.
Yeah, there's 300.
That's all.
It can also be transferred orally, vaginally, and anally.
The Holy Trinity.
The guy laughing the hardest?
Neil deGrasse Tyson.
Oh, yeah.
But probably not here because we don't have water.
Yay, drought!
Yay, drought!
You know, the mosquitoes breed in water.
But here's what Charles Beard, the insect-borne disease expert, said, and I hope this will wake people up to global warming, that there are so many ways it can get you.
He said, with rising temperatures, you're speeding up the whole reproductive cycle of the mosquitoes.
You get larger populations with more generations.
And also, by the way, they go farther north.
Right.
They're in Florida now, but they're going to be in Washington, D.C. with the rest of the bloodsuckers.
All in, though.
All in.
It's all in.
Yeah, of course.
It's his audience.
They're all in, too.
But also notice how no one gives two craps about the gorilla after Muhammad Ali died.
Yeah, this news cycle is just the way it goes.
It's just done.
No more guerrilla problems.
That's why I thought Muhammad was going to step on a lot of stories.
People would just rather talk about him because it's easier, and so they have reminiscences.
It's the same thing.
It's like, who is it that died and everybody was there?
Actually, when Prince died, all these people coming out of the woodwork that were his buddies are talking to him that morning.
It was known he was kind of a recluse.
Yeah.
I got it.
I have a letter I should read.
Oh, very nice.
This is a Boots on the Ground report from UCLA. Ah, excellent.
UCLA student here.
I wanted to touch on a few points you made regarding the shooting.
First off, you're absolutely correct with the number of police, SWAT, FBI, and even ATF agents that were there.
I can also vouch for John's theory that they found a shooter and decided then to turn it into an exercise.
Most students here are subscribed to a Bruin alert system that sends texts to every student when there is police training, which takes place in our gym every month and also sends one in an actual emergency like this.
In other words, they sent a message during the emergency.
Taking a look at the timeline of the alerts, they don't make much sense.
At 9.55am, there was alerts sent out that there was a shooting in the building known as Engineering 4.
So they did, in fact, know where the shooter was.
The lockdown was lifted at 12.19pm as units were searching every single hallway.
With how massive the campus at UCLA is, it's understandable why it would take so long.
However, because of this timeline, it's absolutely possible they use this for an exercise.
The FBI also have 700 agents in a federal building just two miles down the road from the school.
There's also an element of how quickly and inaccurately students can spread misinformation.
Obviously, everyone was texting one another with the amount of false information that was spread was insane.
Rumors range from things like there were four shooters on each corner of the campus with assault rifles, there was a shooting in the dorm, and there was a guy walking around the apartments around the campus with an assault rifle knocking the doors.
Hey John, stop, stop for a second.
I read that the implication was there was a student who shot his professor.
It wasn't a lover's spat, but he accused him of stealing his code and putting it into his own code or selling it or something like that.
Selling it, yeah.
The guy was, of course, he killed his wife, too.
Apparently they found her, but he was just nuts.
We call that collateral damage, John.
A friend, a student of mine who was trained with the Marines Corps, also mentioned that students have a serious lack of knowledge of what a gunshot sounds like.
Although many of these groups' messaging app systems are claiming they heard multiple gunshots, a lot of the supposed gunshots were claimed to be heard by students on the total opposite side of the campus.
This highlights the stupidity of the students and the misunderstanding of what a gunshot sounds like.
In all fairness, students, I noticed this too...
In all fairness, students don't know what is happening, but a campus with Rice students like this, there's far too much speculation going on.
You'd think someone would understand what gunfire actually is.
Anyway, that's his...
He says it was a fiasco in summary.
But yeah, when I saw those videos, it was just like...
Yeah, this guy was like some sort of an insane character.
And he was going to kill another professor who I guess had something to do with the stolen code.
But he never did.
Right.
Anyway.
I just saw something I wanted to mention.
There's a Chicago meetup.
Oh, yes.
Yeah, I'm putting it in the show notes right now because I promised I would mention this.
Hold on.
Let me paste this in.
Okay.
Okay.
No Jenna Meetup is booked in Chicago for the night of the screening of Killing Ed.
That's our buddy, producer Mark Hall, about the Gulen charter schools.
And you can find that at meetup.com.
I've got a link in the show notes.
And the idea is, it would be a good idea, maybe people can go to the screening, which needs, they're using something called Tug, T-U-G-G, and they need to sell enough tickets for the screening, etc.
So...
Help out some producers.
Meet up and help out our buddy Mark.
It's not easy to get this politically incorrect movie shown.
No.
It's very hard for him.
What is the night of the showing?
Yeah.
And the meet up will be right next door.
What was the night?
Oh, I'm sorry.
It's already off my screen.
It's in the show notes.
Is it next month?
Okay.
Oh, I'll take a look for you then.
Hold on.
It is June 29th, end of the month.
Oh, okay.
You've got plenty of time.
I can't go because the weekend, June 27th, that weekend...
No, the 24th.
The 24th?
Yeah, the weekend of the 24th.
I'll be doing the show, but it's field day weekend, so I have to go into the woods.
What?
Field day.
Field day.
You don't know about field day?
I've never heard of field day.
Field day is when all ham radio operators go out into the field with low power and you have to make as many contacts as you will.
It's the SHTF exercise.
Yeah, so you can save the world.
Yes, right?
Yes.
Anyway.
So this event is in Chicago on the 29th, and you have to be someplace on the 24th.
Okay.
Yeah, I can't be there.
But everyone else should sign up for both, for the movie and for the movie.
Maybe I can go.
Yeah, I'm not holding my breath.
Oh, by the way, now that we...
The Rideshare, or the TNCs, was it Transportation Network Companies...
They're under attack, but Airbnb is, you know, they're getting it too.
And when you want to discredit someone, when you want to bring up a conversation in this country, what do you do?
If you're the hotel lobby industry and you're sick and tired of these guys eating your lunch, what do you got to do?
Come on, John, help me out.
What do you got to do?
Chris Lehane is the global head of policy for Airbnb.
Which tells the more than 80 million people who have used its service, they belong anywhere.
It's why we took immediate action and why we have a zero-tolerance policy on any type of activity like this.
It makes me feel terrible.
What?
Say what?
I couldn't understand what he said.
But I think it's part of the microaggressions of just being a black American.
Chicago resident, Cortina Crittenden, says she experienced racial bias on Airbnb.
She started the hashtag, Airbnb while black.
It took me about seven to eight times when I was using Airbnb, and each time I would get like a random excuse from the host, like, oh, it's booked, I decided to stay in my place this week.
You got suspicious, then what'd you do?
That's when I changed my profile.
I changed my photo to Cityscape in Chicago.
Then I shortened my name from Cortina to just Tina.
And then after that, I never had any issues.
Airbnb's opponents and competitors have even seized on the issue, releasing this commercial last month.
I am a black woman.
I get declined all the time on Airbnb.
That's how you do it.
Racist!
Now, I have to say, just thinking for a moment there, maybe what's happening with my ride shares...
These people are seeing Curry.
Oh man, there's got to be a black dude.
I don't want to pick him up.
It's possible.
Yes, it is because everyone associates Curry.
Like you said, you walked into a bar in New York and everyone's wearing a Curry jersey.
Yes, I'm pretty sure.
I have microaggressions being performed against me.
You know, as weird as that sounds, it's a distinct possibility.
We are in Texas after all.
But, you know, my sister is Tiffany Curry.
Well, you can just Google Tiffany Curry, or you can, but if you look for Tiffany Currys on Facebook, there's probably about a hundred of them, and they're all black, except for one.
Although, the jury's still out.
She was born in Africa.
Heyo!
You never know.
My dad was real busy around that time.
At least she doesn't listen to the show.
No, no one listens to the show.
Who has any brains?
No, of course not.
Rick Santelli, he can't listen to the show.
He's the guy on CNBC who's always on the floor of the show, the stocks yelling.
Yeah, yelling.
I mean, I was yelling.
When I saw the latest unemployment numbers come out, my God, John, we are now at 4.7%.
Besides unemployment, besides this being just completely...
It's unbelievable to a lot of people who are just saying, no, this can't be right.
Am I really one of the 4.7% of the losers?
But add to that, unemployment went down to 4.7%.
With an addition of only 32,000 jobs.
Which is a net loss of 120,000.
It's a loss of jobs, yes.
Yes.
Now we know, of course, why this is because they're not taking the numbers into consideration of people who have just given up, who are no longer participating.
And that number went up.
That's why you have actual unemployment of people looking for jobs.
Yeah, they've given up.
They're bums.
Podcasters.
Whatever they are.
Uber drivers.
They've given up.
They've given up.
Rick Santelli, I mean, has now become so crazy.
You'll remember Jack Welch came out.
And this was just before the re-election of President Obama.
They had another one of these bogus job numbers reports.
And Welch came out and said, this is a lie.
This is a lie.
It's not true.
He was excoriated.
What an asshole.
What a dick.
Hey, glad he doesn't run GE anymore.
And of course, they had to restate the numbers three months later.
Yeah.
Well, I'm looking at the ShadowStats right now, which is a service.
You can go to ShadowStats.com and check it out.
Of the unemployment numbers that he developed, which are the same ones that you would get if you were in the 1930s.
And it has not changed at all from about the 22.5% unemployment rate that it shows.
It has not changed at all since 2010.
It has been, for all practical purposes, flat.
At 22.5%, and it really looks flat, too, when you look at it, for the last, I guess, six years.
Yeah.
Just flat as pancake.
Meanwhile, the official numbers are going down.
Ten more months like this!
Ten more months and 30-something!
And we'll be under 3% unemployment.
See, this totally summarizes the disconnect between good jobs, the jobs number, the unemployment rate, and what motivates the Fed and its dual pillars.
This shows the Absolutely.
I'm sure we'll get Mr.
Perez out here, and somehow I don't think he'll brag about the 4.7, but I don't understand why not, because this stencil's been in place for quite a long time, and it really underscores how the current administration and the future president,
whoever that may be, if you're running on this record on jobs, Yeah, that's a very good point.
Is the Federal Reserve making their fiscal policy decisions based upon this number?
No, of course not.
They don't even pay any attention to that number.
That number is just a public relations number that comes out of the White House.
I don't know who is supposed to make feel better.
I guess if you're working, you live in the San Francisco Bay, or let's say you're in one of these startups, you don't feel obliged to give the guy five bucks or a beggar on the street a dollar because he should go get a job.
Yeah, really.
Only 4.7 unemployment.
Get a job, you idiot.
There's jobs all over the place, apparently.
I can tell you that it is my belief that we are in such a state of shock about the unemployment and that there are people, middle class, upper middle class, way upper middle class, here in Austin, I have an example, who are broke.
And here's my example.
I run into Seth, the ER surgeon, last night.
And I'm going downstairs to pick something up from the box room.
And he's got his scrubs on.
He's got his little black bag.
He's good to go.
He works in the ER here in Austin.
He does not like working Saturday nights.
Which, of course, even though he has standing, sometimes you've got to pull the Saturday night shift.
So I said, oh man, so how's it been?
Do you have less clients now that Uber is not riding?
He said, you know, this is really interesting.
He said, you know what we have a lot of right now?
He said, what, two things.
He said, flu.
He said, people coming in, just horrible, horrible flu, which I had not even heard there was a bad flu going around.
Neither have I. And the second thing he said, allergies.
They've been really bad this year.
And I said, oh God, tell me.
I said, wait a minute.
People are coming to the ER for allergy symptoms?
Hold on a second.
This is, I mean, this is, and I go into my whole, this is the problem, because I know poor people come to the emergency room to get free diapers.
I know, but the problem is it takes up a lot of resources, because you still have to process everybody, and you can't refuse anybody, which is good.
And I said, oh man, so this is East Side, a lot of poor people.
He said, no, no, no, no, no.
No, this is from Westlake.
And that's, anyone who knows Austin, that's a very rich, upper, upper middle class neighborhood.
I said, really?
He says, yes.
And they come in and they're very entitled.
I have a right to this service here.
I'm not feeling well.
And the only thing I can imagine is that, well, first of all, we do have an entitlement problem, but...
I'm thinking people, you know, they can't afford, you know, an out of, you know, whatever the Obamacare doctrines, I don't know, whenever I need a doctor, it's never covered.
And I think that's because they're broke.
There could be a lot of people who are broke.
We have a lot of people that listen to our podcast that are broke.
Luckily they still support us.
They're not so broke that they can't help us.
Right.
But yeah.
But I think it's much worse.
I think the way it sounds, I was listening to one report, a business news network or one of them, and it sounds as though there's only, and Austin is one of the pockets of prosperity.
We'll see.
Austin, New York, and San Francisco were like the three they mentioned.
Well, I have my eye because, of course, I'm right in the middle of downtown.
We have four new buildings, residential, one condos, which is the new C-Home project, 280 units, only 100 occupied right now.
Of course, it just opened, and these things are a million and a half just for one bedroom.
It's ridiculous.
And then there's two other buildings, three other buildings, two other buildings near me.
There are some people living in them, but I looked at the prices.
Two bedrooms, $4,200.
Two bedrooms, $4,200 a month.
But they're not...
San Francisco prices.
Yeah, and we got dickheads with Lamborghinis revving around town.
It's not good.
But here's the real canary in the coal mine to me.
So, very expensive real estate right here downtown.
They were supposed to build an Austin Jaja Hotel, ZSA, ZSA. They have one in Dallas, one in Houston.
It's a private club of investors.
I've never heard of this hotel chain.
The one in Houston is fantastic.
It's very nice.
They're modern, but they've got nutty art, and it's just fun.
And so they've had this land for several years.
They started to build about a year ago, and they've just given up.
There's no building.
I now call it Lake Zsa Zsa after the rains.
It's just one big muddy water pit.
And, you know, that's an expectation.
They've given up.
I think there's no money or possibly not feeling the economy is going to make it worth it, or both.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I'm not so sure.
You know, Austin...
Well, first of all, we need a correction here.
This is crazy.
This is just crazy, these prices.
Well, we need a correction here, too.
But it's going to be...
I think we have a bigger...
Since we have such a bigger population base, I think we can...
We can buffer against it a little bit.
You guys are just a small operation.
And along with this comes...
Actually, I'd like to go into this.
We have to thank some people.
I have too much going on here.
Crap.
You're bumming everyone out.
I got good stuff, though.
Hey, I'll tell you what.
Before we thank everybody, why don't we play a little clip about how bad it is in Sweden.
That'll make us feel better, won't it?
Yeah.
Okay.
So this is the migrant situation in Sweden.
This is a long report.
It's a piece.
It's a piece from CBN, which I think is a Christian broadcasting network.
So they are all in against Muslims.
So please take that into account.
But I do find most of the facts presented in this piece are true.
Sweden is a society that believes it is racing into the future.
But critics warn that it's racing to the bottom.
Sweden has been a laboratory of social experiments.
Swedish leaders believe they're building the perfect society.
If you don't like how utopia is being built here, you won't be shot like in North Korea.
But your life could become very unpleasant very quickly.
Sweden's leftist establishment and media believe a cornerstone of their perfect society is multiculturalism, large-scale immigration from some of the poorest, most backward nations on earth.
And Swedes who disagree with that plan risk being labeled racist.
The rules of the game in Sweden is to avoid being hostile to immigration.
It's the most important point to prove that you're friendly towards foreigners, you're friendly towards immigration.
It's all about whether or not you can be said to be hostile to immigration.
Once that is proven, It doesn't matter if Sweden's immigration model is failing miserably, if test scores in Swedish schools are plummeting, or if crime in some areas has skyrocketed.
Immigrants burned the Stockholm suburb of Husby for over a week last year.
Many Jews now live in fear of attacks by Muslim immigrants.
And are leaving.
This former journalist for Swedish radio left last year and returned to her native Somalia.
She told Swedish television that Mogadishu was safer than the immigrant suburbs in Stockholm.
And forget about an American style melting pot in which immigrants will someday learn to become Swedish.
That's a racist idea too.
Assimilation is completely out of the Who says assimilation is completely another question?
Everybody in all mainstream political parties and media and platforms would laugh about it.
The word assimilation is a Nazi word in Sweden.
They point at you and say you're a racist.
Then you will have no career, no job, you might lose your family.
Swedish journalist Ingrid Carlqvist and Danish journalist Lars Hedegaard run the online newspaper Dispatch International, which covers issues like immigration that the mainstream media in Sweden ignores.
But Carlqvist says their plan for a traditional newspaper failed because Swedes were too scared to have the paper delivered to their homes.
Because what if the mailman saw that you had this newspaper?
What if your neighbors saw it?
Then they might think that you are a racist or that you hate Muslims.
So we thought we could sort of make an impact.
We still think we can, but it's tough going.
Dispatch International now hangs on through donations.
What wise Swedish parents do nowadays is to advise their kids not to interfere in the public discussion, not to express so-called radical ideas about this or that.
Because why?
Why do they advise?
Because they're afraid.
That their kids won't get work?
Yeah, it'll harm them.
That is a very bad situation because you live then in a country where you cannot solve any problems.
You cannot even mention the problems.
We had a perfectly good country, a rich country, a nice country.
And in a few years' time, that country will be gone.
Now, this is obviously over-dramatized, but I recognize a lot of this.
I recognize it here.
And this is primarily among the people who consider themselves to be smart, informed and educated voters.
You know, there's a lot of this stuff that, you know, why do you think we're not saying Islamic terrorists?
It's for this reason.
You don't want to be called a racist.
This is exactly how Nazi Germany came about.
This shit.
It's fantastic to watch.
Now that we're at age and it doesn't matter when we die, it's okay.
I don't give a shit.
Whatever.
So let's listen to the guy who won the Templeton Award, which is very interesting.
I picked this off on Newsnight, and now you're talking about Jews.
We've got the rabbi who ran the whole, you know, the...
Great Britain.
He was the top guy.
And he won the Templeton Award.
And I wanted to play this whole clip.
Because when I heard this guy, I said, wow.
What is the Templeton Award?
The Templeton Award is explained in the clip.
So let's just play this.
This is the multiculturalism lecture.
I just found it very insightful.
The Templeton Prize is a kind of Nobel for religion.
It honors a living person who has, quote, made an exceptional contribution to affirming life's spiritual dimension.
Given that spiritual objective, the prize is remarkably materialistic in paying out serious money to the winner, one and a half million dollars.
Now, this year, that jackpot was won by the former chief rabbi of the United Hebrew Congregations in Britain, Lord Jonathan Sachs.
Who has for decades been writing and talking on themes of faith, tolerance and peace.
I sat down with Lord Saxe on the day he received his prize.
His latest book is about religion and conflict, so I thought I'd ask a simple question.
Does religion cause war?
Not always, not inevitably, and every substitute for religion leads to war.
So the cause of war is not religion, it's us.
It's human beings.
It's that nasty little thing called human impulse and anger.
It's very interesting you're arguing, making this point now, because of course a lot of people are saying the era in which we're living...
Is one in which there is a clamour or a need for people to find identity.
Identity politics, nationalist politics is very prominent.
People feeling like their voice needs to be heard, they need to shout more loudly because their tribe is not getting the recognition it needs.
I wonder whether you think that is a problem.
I think it is.
You know, we've lost our national identity.
Do you think so?
I think we really, really have, yes.
And we kind of lost that in that welter of multiculturalism and we said, you know, actually it's very impolite to have a national identity.
But this gets to the heart of a very awkward dilemma, doesn't it, about whether we all should have a shared identity or whether we should encourage people to have their own identity in a multicultural England or a multicultural Britain.
The real difference is this.
If there's a collective identity, society is a home.
If you have multiculturalism, society is a hotel.
It was supposed to lead to greater tolerance.
What it led to was what Trevor Phillips called sleepwalking into segregation.
Multiculturalism did not promote tolerance or shared identity.
It said, you go off and do your own thing.
And that turns out to be very destructive.
I'll say.
We've got to get this guy's book now.
Yes.
Another thing to read.
Nice.
But, yeah, and it's simple.
He puts it simply, and I think he's nailed it.
And witness Europe.
Witness the EU. I saw it happen.
It's ongoing.
Yes, it is.
And probably, if there were an evil uberlord anywhere saying, I know how we can get those fuckers in the West, just make everybody call each other racist and then promote all these other ideas and then before you know it, they'll be so stupefied they won't even be able to call each other out on stuff.
And this happened at the Florida Atlantic University in Boca!
Boca.
This is a Muslim professor.
And it'll take you about two seconds to get accustomed to the audio, but I've checked it.
You can hear it fine.
Let's listen to what he's talking about.
Sharia is being practiced in the United States.
We practice Sharia, if someone doesn't know.
When there's no Sharia Islamic Sharia, they die in dozens and hundreds every day because of organized crime.
People kill people, other people to steal pizza for $10 in stores.
So when Islamic Sharia say about capital punishment, so even though it sounds very severe, but if that is the solution to prevent any crimes, then it still has a lot of rules and regulations.
We just mentioned one and we'll stop here, which is, let's say cutting the hand of a person if they steal.
It sounds very severe, it sounds very barbaric, I know.
But if it takes one or two people to have their hands cut off and then there's no more stealing in the whole nation, that's a much better resolution than having hundreds of people die every day.
Now, I don't know if you could hear that through the Skype.
He's promoting Cherie.
He says cutting off somebody's hand for stealing is the best way to do it because it's just a better idea.
And then everyone got all bent out of shape.
You only have to do it to one or two people, and then it's all good.
Then people...
Maybe true, but that's kind of a radical idea to be promoting.
I would think, yes.
Especially in public.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, hey, we are a free and open society.
You can say whatever you want.
Yeah, if you don't like it, you're a racist.
Well, that's how it works.
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I have tech news.
Oh, I have tech news.
Excellent.
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Well, a few months ago, on this very program, on this very program, I was...
Laughed at.
In fact, this...
By who?
By you.
By what?
By yous.
Never.
That's impossible.
Yous.
Yes.
I brought to your attention, not that I was buying into it, I brought to your attention a meme floating around.
In fact, you sent me the theremin clip, I think, based upon this story.
Maybe I should just play it while we're at it.
The story goes that the world as we know it is a simulation run by the artificial intelligence and that those who promote artificial intelligence receive fame and fortune and great jobs.
Those who fight it have podcasts.
That was pretty much the...
The theory.
And you laughed at me, of course.
Yeah, of course, because it's funny.
Right.
Interesting, when it's Elon Musk, it's okay.
Then everybody's all in.
By the way, when it's Elon Musk, it's not okay by me.
It's okay for everybody!
It's okay for everybody.
Just listen to this.
I have a couple of clips here.
I just need to get through this.
This guy is...
I cannot believe...
Oh, Elon!
Oh, yes!
It makes so much sense.
Oh, Elon!
Actually, you know what I should do?
I'll start off with...
Here's Elon.
Let's start off with...
Okay, clip number one.
This is all from Recode.
This is the...
I guess this...
Is that not streamed live?
Or how come...
I guess not.
Whatever.
So they do a little, like, news desk each evening.
News desk, yes.
We got Swisher, who's wearing dark Ray-Ban sunglasses.
I don't know, because she's hungover.
I don't know why, but it looks very dumb.
And Mossberg.
And they're just drooling over Elon.
Oh, Elon!
He just went everywhere.
He's incredibly smart and incredibly nerdy and geeky and super futuristic.
Yeah, so he talked about...
AI. I think AI probably is the big issue here.
AI. We had a lot of conversation about AI. AI. Very worried about it.
Very worried about AI. He said things that none of our others...
We talked a lot about AI through the conference, and we can discuss that, but Elon Musk was unusual in that he thought this is a serious danger to humanity, that it won't be very long before AI can be orders of magnitude smarter than us.
Kara got him to say, compares to what?
A house cat.
So he said essentially that we're going to be as dumb as pets and that AI is going to control us.
And his worry is that there'll be one company, and I think he was referring to Google.
We both.
We all think he was referring to Google.
Referring to Facebook, that there'll be one company with a handful of people in charge, and that's a dangerous situation.
And so he has this thing called OpenAI, which is trying to create AI for the masses.
And so everybody can have an artificial, if it's going to happen, everybody should have artificial intelligence capabilities.
And so he sort of has the vision of the future that's very apocalyptic.
Kind of the cyborg defense, you sort of.
It's a Terminator.
I mean, it really was.
He was essentially saying, without naming them, that Google, we think it was Google, is Skynet.
And he was also...
I mean, I'm not making this stuff up.
We're there.
He was talking about implanting how we all need to implant what's called a neural lace, which turns out to be a real thing.
People were madly Googling it.
Googling it.
Yeah, of course.
Ironically.
And...
That would give you sort of input-output with your digital self in your human brain.
Well, it would give you advanced capabilities.
And there wouldn't need to be surgery that you could implant it somehow in the back.
In your veins.
Suddenly, Tesla production targets seem kind of pedestrian.
Oh, we talked about that.
No, we talked about that.
He did.
He did.
So you get the idea.
Yeah, he's talking a bunch of stuff so people ignore the fact that he can't produce enough of those new Model 3s.
But also, the level of horseshit.
I mean, if I had thrown this theory down, which is kind of like a 4chan thing, It is.
It's a 4chan thing.
It's total theremin world.
But then, if I had said that at an Obama bot dinner, you know, laughed out of the room.
When Elon said it.
Oh, I love Elon.
And by the way, he stole the idea from Bill Gates, who 20 years ago...
Said that, and he told his closer friends, he said he always said he always believed that software will take over the world and will be their pets.
Exactly the same.
Right.
So now this concept that we're currently living in a simulation, which he pegs, John, the chance is billions to one that we're not living in a simulation.
This is Elon Musk.
The hero.
Tony Stark!
Incredible.
There's a...
Conspiracy theory.
Sort of a philosophic concept that a...
Oh, I'm sorry.
...advanced civilization would be able to create a...
A simulation.
Yeah.
Maybe you've answered this before?
A simulation.
I've had so many simulation discussions, it's crazy.
Okay.
In fact, it got to the point where basically every conversation was the AI slash simulation conversation.
And my brother and I finally agreed that we would ban such conversations if we were ever in a hot tub.
Yeah, because you will die.
He's buying into the whole concept.
If you're against the simulation theory, then you're not rich, famous, and powerful, but you die.
That was like...
In the hot tub.
Because that really kills the magic.
So the idea is, right, any sufficiently advanced civilization could create a simulation that's like our existence.
And so the theory follows that maybe we're in the simulation.
Have you thought about this?
A lot.
Are we...
Are we...
That's Mossberg, by the way.
So much so, it has to be banned from a hot tub.
No, that was Mossberg.
That was Mossberg with that laugh.
He's got a creepy one.
There he is.
That's it.
So given that we're clearly on a trajectory to have games that are indistinguishable from reality, and those games could be played on any set-top box or on a PC or whatever, and there would probably be billions of such computers or set-top boxes, it would seem to follow that the odds that we're in base reality is one in billions.
Tell me what's wrong with that argument.
Is the answer yes?
Yeah, the answer you just said, the odds that it's base reality is one in billions, i.e.
real reality, reality, not a simulation.
This is where Musk's head is at.
Yeah, okay.
The argument is probably...
Is there a flow in that argument?
I'm not sure what the error...
No, no, the argument makes sense.
So the assumption then is that...
You know, this is the kind of thing, it's not unusual to have these thoughts.
This is the kind, at some point in your success, Deepak Chopra does not believe in reality.
Deepak Chopra, when it comes down to his final philosophies, he's a very interesting guy to listen to because he twists things in very unique ways and makes it very compelling.
He doesn't think there's any reality at all.
He thinks it's all bullcrap.
So this is not the only guy who goes around like this.
It's not so much that, John.
It's the fawning over him.
Oh, the fawning is unacceptable.
Yeah.
And just not even saying, hold on a second, Elon.
They should throw him out of his chair right there.
Stomp on him, I tell you.
Start kicking him and then say, what do you think about this reality, punk?
How's that simulation for you, dude?
I've got nothing to do with it.
It's a simulation.
What did you do wrong?
I'll leave that for what it is.
I'll just wrap up with another...
Just so you know, what we're going to be inundated with on all the tech horny shows for the next years, which I am against, I remain by the phrase, there is no AI, only the API, but it's all going to be AI, AI, AI, AI, AI, AI, AI, AI. It's sort of the contrasting versions of what AI is going to do for society.
You had Sheryl Sandberg and Mike Schrepp, who's the CTO of Facebook, talking about how good technology is going to be for us and the bad outweighs the good.
I think several people were talking about the good outweighs the bad, excuse me.
And then you had Elon saying, no, just...
What?
What are you doing?
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Come on, blah, blah, blah.
Listen, it's important.
This is our beat.
We've got to know what's coming down the pike.
Second.
And Sundar.
Sundar Pichai.
He's all for it.
Yeah, so I think it's an interesting thing.
And that'll...
I think these are...
Again, big issues that need to play themselves out going forward.
These are big issues that need to play themselves out.
Oh, there you go.
Big issues play themselves out, sure.
Big issues that need to play themselves out going forward and probably the next quantum leap in computing.
Going forward.
You've got to listen to this bullshit, John.
Don't talk over it.
Listen to this.
These are, again, big issues that need to play themselves out going forward and probably the next quantum leap in computing.
The next quantum leap in computing.
What journalist still uses terms like that?
Who says going forward?
That's nothing the writer should ever use.
Going forward and probably the next quantum leap in computing is this.
Yeah, I mean, everyone we know who's running one of these companies, and this was part of our theme this year, thinks this is the battleground in the next 10 years.
If the smartphone was the battleground of the last 7 or 8 years, AI is now the battleground.
Do you remember...
What the hell was the name of that company?
It was something...
Was it Magic?
Or Magic Loop?
Or Magic...
There was a Magic.
Magic something.
Magic Hat or something like that.
Yeah.
And it was a whole bunch of Apple guys and all these people.
Yeah, all the Apple guys.
And that was going to be...
Intelligent agents could walk out on the network and do all kinds of stuff for you.
You could train them.
I was waiting for that for a while.
That was in the 80s.
Yeah.
Wait.
Still waiting.
Yeah, but I just...
I find it...
I find it at this point...
You can't get a good smart email box.
Yeah, really.
Do that for me.
Really sort the email based upon the context I'm interested in.
No one's created any...
Thank you, John.
There you go.
That's it.
When there's artificial intelligence that sorts my email the way I want it to be, I'll believe in it.
Yeah.
You're not going to see it.
Not going to see it.
Well I have one piece of tech news but I can put it off to the next show.
I think that would be a real disappointment.
Why would it be a disappointment?
Because we love your tech news.
Unlike your thing, which I won't condemn, this is actual tech news.
Yeah, let's do some tech news.
This actually applies to things that are happening that will continue to happen.
I guess there was a big event I missed in Shanghai, but this is the 3D printing story that was played on the Chinese news.
Of course, we didn't hear anything about it.
Moving on to 3D printing now.
It's been hailed as revolutionary.
So far, it's been mostly limited to small objects like figurines.
But as a trade fair in Shanghai shows, we could soon be living and working inside printed buildings too.
Round and round and round it goes.
Layer by layer, this 3D printer makes vases and lampshades ornate and pretty.
At a cost of $500 to $1000, gadgets like this are a hobbyist's dream.
They fit on a desk and print out models quickly and for cheap.
The printer brings the best effect by using plastic and carbon fiber materials.
We are now developing 3D printers that can use flour to make pancakes.
Users can make cartoon-shaped pancakes for children.
Breakfast food might be a niche market for 3D printers.
A look around the Shanghai event clearly shows that household items and decorations are in demand.
Then again, for some, it is less important what someone prints but that they print.
A 3D printer can enable users to make small toys and decorations.
It is interactive and can train children's creativity and practical abilities.
That's different from just buying toys.
Making toys instead of just playing with toys.
But 3D printing is no longer just a gimmick for hobbyists.
Thousands of miles away, the Dubai Future Foundation just moved into their new offices completely made by a 3D printer.
Why 3D printing?
Because it makes sense in terms of cost, in terms of time saving, in terms of efficiency.
And we really believe that this technology will revolutionize the construction, development sector.
I won't be surprised if in 20 years down the road, whole cities will be 3D printed.
The technology has some important advantages over traditional building techniques.
The cement used is fast curing.
A module like the one used in Dubai is printed in a day.
And irregular shapes can be made, allowing architects to explore new ideas.
There are limits, of course.
Most large buildings, including skyscrapers, need a steel skeleton, and that cannot be 3D printed, at least not yet.
Hmm.
There you go.
That's an update.
That's something that people need to know.
Yeah, and there's a small company that's doing 3D printing of cars.
There's no reason you can't do that.
Yeah, no.
Actually, it's pretty cool.
I saw it on Jay's Garage, which I have to say, pretty cool show.
Oh, Jay's Garage is a great show.
I hadn't watched it in a long time.
And so you have this printer, and it's a big printer, and it just poops out a car, and all you have to do is put the shocks on and attach the wheels, obviously, your axles, and then an electric motor, and somebody printed their own 3D car.
Yeah.
It's cool.
Yeah.
I can see that.
I mean, houses should be 3D printed.
That'd be pretty interesting.
Well, all of this, of course, leads to the last topic I have, for which I have a clip, and this is the universal basic income.
We realize now that the way things are going...
Without manufacturing in the United States, certainly, we need jobs that are a certain kind of job, and we don't need a lot of other jobs, apparently, or that's the belief.
So we therefore need to start considering UBI, which is universal basic income.
And I'm all in on this, by the way.
We have people who are useless, effectively, for society.
Useless eaters.
Useless eaters.
That's what Prince Charles has said.
Was it Prince Charles or was it Daddy-O? Prince Philip.
Prince Philip said it.
Useless eaters.
Cannon fodder, I tell you.
The Swiss voted this down with a huge majority today by 71.
I found that interesting.
Me too.
Here's the lead up to it.
What would you do if your income wasn't an issue?
That's the question being posed by campaigners in Geneva ahead of a vote to introduce a universal basic income.
Supporters are leaving their answers over billboards across the city.
Among the answers here, director film and work to find a new form of renewable energy.
Sounds like a cool gig to me.
But it's a proposal that has split opinion.
We have a relatively well-functioning social system for people who are out of work or who have health problems.
And it works well.
So when it comes to the minimum income, I'm sceptical.
The plans would see every Swiss citizen given 2,300 euros a month by the government, no strings attached.
Those who do work would also receive the money, but have their salaries deducted by the same amount.
The controversial proposals have also been criticised by almost all political parties, with some calling it a Marxist dream.
It would cost the company a little over 22.5 billion euros.
Some are worried it could lead to tax increases.
The think tank behind the idea says it is necessary.
We produce more and more value with less and less human labour.
So there is no longer enough work for everyone, not enough salary, not enough people paying into the social system.
We need to find another redistribution system.
Switzerland isn't alone.
Among others, Finland is planning to trial a universal basic income, albeit with a lower wage, next year.
And 71 or 73 percent voted it down today in their referendum.
That's huge.
Very, very surprising to me.
Yeah, it was surprising to me, too, because it seems as though the Swiss would be the ones who'd like to experiment with this sort of thing.
And this is a referendum.
The counter-argument, like if we tried to do it, the counter-argument would be, well, then they're going to have a bunch of people coming over the border to get the free money.
But the Swiss are really good about keeping people from becoming Swiss citizens.
It's almost like Monaco.
It's almost impossible to become one unless you do a deal with them.
Well, it would be pretty easy to, you know...
Do a one-two punch and say, hey, you have to be a citizen or resident alien, and that has to, before you, you know, not like the IRS now, like, hey, you're here illegally, overstayed your visa, here's your number, go ahead, just keep paying taxes.
Which is the bad, it's the wrong incentive.
Which is really, it's a kind of Sharia law in reverse.
It's Sharia privilege.
I'm telling you.
It's nuts.
So on a third hand.
I don't know if there are any other...
I like the idea.
In a utopian world, I have a feeling...
Nixon was a big promoter.
It's called reverse income tax.
The idea is not new and it's floated around for a while.
Long time.
For sure.
Long time.
I was stunned that the number was so high.
Alright, that's it.
We're done.
We're good.
We got to.
I mean, I probably have a clip here that I could play or I could move into the next show.
Do one to play us out.
Do a fun one for us.
Let's do...
What does this say?
What is this word on here?
Just do this for the five-pounder.
Five-pounder?
Yeah, this is the new five-pound note in England.
Ah, okay.
Plastic money!
And the Bank of England has unveiled the final design of its new five-pound note today.
The note will feature the image of Sir Winston Churchill, British Prime Minister and World War II leader.
The new note is made of plastic rather than cotton paper and is a little smaller.
It's a first for the Bank of England, but plastic banknotes are already in use in Scotland, Australia and Canada.
They're more durable and harder to counterfeit.
And if they get dirty, you can just pop them in the washing machine.
That's because they're waterproof.
Bringing a new meaning to the word money laundering, I guess.
Oh, God.
Okay.
Well, there you go, Gitmo Nation East.
Enjoy that plastic.
Just one step away.
All you need is a magnetic stripe and you're good to go.
That's your money.
Get used to it.
It's getting used to the texture of the plastic.
It will soon be your money.
Hey, shoot, don't we have Country Music Awards tonight?
No, we have Miss USA. There are two nights in town, so I'm going to have some drinks, maybe dinner with them.
No.
Sir Trevor.
Sir Trevor is in town.
I take it they're not Warriors fans.
No.
Professors.
Professors from, uh...
They're professors.
Two professor nights.
Professors from somewhere.
I'd never go out.
Professors usually don't take well to me, so we'll see.
My track record with professors, moi.
Could be better.
Eh, you know.
Anyway, we will return on Thursday.
Are these two guys in town for the same event?
Yes, for some conference.
I'll find out.
I'll know more on Thursday.
And we want you to remember us for them at Dvorak.org slash NA. Until then, coming to you from the skyscraper in the Crackpot Condo in downtown Austin, Tejas, FEMA Region 6.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley where it's not raining.
Actually, it's a pretty nice day.
I think I might go outside.
Maybe.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
We'll be back on Thursday right here on No Agenda.
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