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	Hello, Donald.
	This is Vlad.
	Listen.
	Listen.
	Adam Curry.
	John C. DeVore.
	It's Thursday, May 12, 2016, and time once again for your Gitmo Nation media assassination, episode 824.
	This is No Agenda.
	Struggling in the ring, stick-shaking aftermath, and broadcasting live from the capital of the Drone Star State, a few region six here in Austin Tejas in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where apparently recyclables are now a problem.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Yeah, everything's a problem today.
	Man, you sound muffled.
	Talk to me.
	I do?
	A little bit?
	Yeah, you were sounding great in the pre-stream and then all of a sudden you...
	I don't know.
	Were you not looking into the microphone?
	Looking?
	Yeah, you gotta look into it.
	Yeah, really look at that microphone when you talk.
	Look, there's a round thing inside.
	It's a little trick we picked up at the Academy.
	Oh, I'm going to give you a little more high-end or something.
	I don't know.
	We used to have a thing out here called the Columbia School of Broadcasting.
	I am a graduate of the Columbia School of Broadcasting.
	No, I'm sorry.
	The Connecticut School of Broadcasting.
	Well, that's different.
	That's very different.
	What was the Columbia School of Broadcasting?
	I have no idea.
	Some guy out here who was a big-time jock of some sort, I guess, and he maybe was a station manager, he decided to start the school.
	Yeah.
	I think.
	I don't know.
	This was like in the 70s, I guess.
	Right.
	And are you a graduate?
	No, of course not.
	God, no.
	Okay, good.
	Yeah, man.
	I went to Foothill College for one semester, two semesters, and took two semesters of broadcasting in school.
	And we had a live station, so it was...
	Was it like a 10-watt FM station or something?
	Yeah, it was something like that, but it may have been more than 10 watts.
	It was enough that you could hear it.
	It had pretty good...
	Well, of course, it was sitting right on the water, so it has pretty good range.
	Yeah.
	But...
	It was FM? Yeah.
	And did you use John C. Dvorak?
	AFJC! What?
	AFJC. Right.
	And did you use your John C. Dvorak handle as your DJ name?
	You know, I didn't get a very few guys got to do a rock show.
	I didn't ask that.
	You could have been, hey everybody, it's JCD in the morning and now some Dave Brubeck.
	That was not, I don't think it was the preferred style at the time.
	It's never really been a preferred style.
	It was an event station, so I think we're expected to talk like this.
	And now, Iron Butterfly.
	Side B in its entirety, with no interruptions, with DJ Johnny C. I did two radio plays.
	Oh, classic stuff.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	But I wrote the plays.
	And do you have recordings of them still?
	That'd be perfect.
	You know, one of the recordings is maybe in the cellar somewhere.
	The other one is lost.
	Oh, too bad.
	Hey, let me start right off with a local report, John, with a little bit more information, because after our show on Sunday, I did a really deep dive.
	Of course, I've been out of the country, so I hadn't had an opportunity to do that for Sunday, which would have been more appropriate.
	But just following up on our big local news story here in Austin, Tejas.
	The $9 million ad campaign could not sway Austin voters.
	They shot down Prop 1 yesterday by more than 10 points, 12 points to be exact, forcing ride-sharing companies to get fingerprint background checks.
	Uber and Lyft both say they will now stop operations as of tomorrow morning in Austin.
	Now, Uber says they'll keep operating in Austin's suburbs but not come into the city.
	That would rule out rides to the airport because that is within the city limits.
	Okay.
	So it didn't take me very long to get to the absolute bottom of this, and no surprise.
	It is, of course, we already knew it wasn't about fingerprinting.
	This has been debunked.
	But there's your local news doing their job of reading the press release for the city.
	This dispute has been ongoing.
	It happened in New York.
	It happened in San Antonio.
	It happened before in Houston.
	It's happening again in Houston.
	And it's a provision in the ordinance that Uber gave into in Houston.
	It's now trying to renegotiate that a year later.
	They did a deal they wanted to with New York because what the city of Austin was requesting was That was the grievance for Uber and Lyft was all of their ride data.
	This is what the problem was.
	In Houston, Uber, I'm just talking about Uber now, wanted to be in that market so badly they said, okay, for a year we're going to give you all our data, and now they're renegotiating because they have sold that data to New York City.
	And the city says, our city here in Austin, Wait, wait, stop, back up.
	Houston sold the data to New York?
	No, no, no.
	Uber sold their data to New York.
	That's the kind of deals they want to do.
	And they've sold their data to Visa and MasterCard.
	This is what they really are.
	This is not about transportation.
	I think they could give a crap about the transportation angle.
	It's about their data.
	Would you have any idea what Uber knows about me?
	Me?
	And they wanted to give that to the city, and the city, you know, fairly, they say, well, we would love to have this data because, you know, we have traffic problems, and you have such great data about traffic flows and people flows, individuals and groups of people, which, of course, you can buy the data from Visa and American Express, and you can see exactly what kind of person is driving.
	Yeah.
	It was a passenger in the car.
	Austin did not want to pay for that.
	That is what it's about.
	And as I was going through this researching, Austin has hired, the city of Austin hired 23 data scientists in the past year.
	So they were ready.
	They were ready to grab all that data.
	Uber just wants to sell it.
	What?
	It sounds again like this data is the solution to everything.
	Yeah, which is why Amazon keeps advertising products to me, which I just bought.
	Right, and they're probably the top data miner.
	Yeah, they're supposed to be good at it.
	Yeah.
	So, it's built on somewhat of a false premise, but I understand Uber and Lyft not wanting to just give that to the city.
	That was the provision.
	They had to give that data to the city.
	And that's what they said.
	No, we're not going to do it.
	No one has reported on this.
	They haven't even reported on the 1% of gross fees which they're required to pay under the regulation.
	It's just astounding that the city of Austin can't even...
	I got into two Ubers, of course.
	We did our last Uber rides Sunday night, going out to dinner, which needs to be discussed.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	And talking to both drivers, like, oh, yeah, it's all about the data.
	And this is where I learned about San Antonio, where they did this, where they had an argument about the data.
	They did not want to share their data.
	And I understand.
	That truly is the business of these rides, let's call them rideshare companies.
	I like to call them depression job apps.
	Well, I don't know if it's the entire business, but I will say it's definitely a profit center.
	If you look at statements from 2013, 2014, Uber about their data, they were building up their valuation because of the perceived value of the data they have on drivers and riders alike.
	That's what that $40 billion valuation was about.
	They're not making money.
	As far as I know, they're losing money.
	So what's supposed to go on with this data?
	Before you answer that, I will say something.
	I was at an event some years back when the CEO of American Express was talking about something.
	And he said...
	And that's when he discussed, which we've talked about on the show.
	We've talked about this whole thing on the show.
	But we talked about it on the show.
	That's where American Express comes up with all these algorithms that will, for example, I'll say it again.
	I think we said it a number of years ago.
	If you go to a gas station and get two tanks of gas, one after the other, like you bring somebody with you and then you fill up your tank, put the thing back, fill up somebody else's tank.
	Put the thing back.
	Then you go to a shoe store, buy some Nikes.
	Boom!
	The car gets blocked.
	It's blocked immediately.
	Yeah, it's two tanks of gas and Nikes.
	That'll do it.
	And we've had people that listen to this show do that experiment, and they found that the car got killed.
	But I wonder if it also...
	Well, let me finish.
	The guy who is American Express CEO comes out and he says, we have so much data on people.
	We don't use it against them, but we could profile anybody that's a card user.
	We could tell you who they're having affairs with.
	Everything.
	Yeah.
	So you marry that with the movement of these card owners.
	Now you're talking.
	Yeah, totally.
	Now you're really talking.
	Well, this guy's trouble.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so...
	But, you know, I was listening to some of the tech horny news shows over the weekend.
	And, of course, this was discussed by everybody, but it really was more...
	You know, about, oh, fingerprinting.
	No one has done anything.
	It's not that hard.
	You gotta think that the local press in Austin is all in or just stupid!
	Or just reading press releases.
	Lazy's the word.
	Lazy?
	Well, yeah, lazy.
	But it's institutionalized, the laziness.
	It's like...
	What's the point?
	So I find out a little bit more.
	Why bother?
	It's not worth the trouble.
	Hey, you want to go get a beer?
	Yeah, you're right.
	Okay, well, in the same vein, let's listen to this clip.
	Twitter and the CIA. Ooh, always good.
	The social media platform Twitter has reportedly barred U.S. intelligence agencies from using a service that analyzes all of its user posts.
	The Wall Street Journal reports Twitter cut off access to Dataminer, a company that mines Twitter feeds for information because it was concerned about the, quote, optics of appearing too close to U.S. spy agencies.
	Optics?
	I'll tell you about optics.
	Some optics.
	How about the Facebook optics?
	Now, we, of course, heard about this story about Facebook being accused of manipulating their trending feed and maybe other news feeds.
	Duh!
	We were like, duh.
	Since when is this a big deal?
	Here's an overview of the networks reporting on this in a little montage.
	Censored by Facebook, the popular social network being accused of routinely suppressing conservative stories from its trending feed.
	This troubling accusation leveled against Facebook that's getting a lot of attention this morning.
	A former worker is claiming it censored politically conservative content from its popular trending news sidebar.
	Woo!
	Backlash brewing against Facebook.
	The social media side accused of keeping conservative news stories off its trending list.
	Facebook workers intentionally suppressed conservative news stories from that list.
	Facebook this morning is defending itself against accusations of political bias.
	An article posted Monday on the tech news site, Gizmodo, said Facebook workers suppressed conservative-leaning news stories in its trend.
	Now, I'll tell you why these news organizations and news networks are reporting this with such shock and horror.
	It's not because of the manipulation.
	It's because that's their job.
	They're looking around going, hold on a second, we're the gatekeepers.
	Who are these jabronis?
	That's what's going on.
	Yeah!
	Network news.
	They've finally woken up to the fact that Twitter and Facebook seem to be a source of news.
	Oh, not just that.
	They're taking over television shows.
	Source of news is easy, but being the gatekeeper of news.
	Now, that is their true trick.
	And they're aghast.
	How can this be?
	This is our job.
	In fact, they had some editor from Gizmodo.
	Nice shot there for this guy and for Gizmodo on the CBS. Is it CBS This Morning with Charlie and Oprah's gal, Gail?
	Yeah, Gail.
	You want to hear this?
	Hear what he had to say on this?
	And Nora.
	Nora, yeah.
	You want to hear it?
	Yeah, of course.
	So this started with the leaked document that was sent to Gizmodo unsolicited.
	And with that story...
	Leaked document from?
	A leaked document from a Facebook employee revealing an issue at the Menlo Park office.
	And keep in mind, producers listening to this, that people in your environment are using these systems and are hearing this for the first time.
	To us, this is very normal and not new.
	Like, okay, fine.
	It's been going on for a hundred years in print, more than forever maybe.
	But oh boy, it's really happening to Facebook.
	It was about a Black Lives Matter note being scratched out on their famous signature wall and being replaced with All Lives Matter.
	So Mark Zuckerberg issued a statement privately in an internal document and that was leaked to Gizmodo.
	See, that part I didn't know.
	I didn't hear about the whole ramp up to this.
	That there was some change made internally, changing someone who put Black Lives Matter, All Lives Matter, back to Black Lives Matter.
	When we published that story, it emboldened some Facebook employees to step forward and say, well, you think that's good?
	We have more information.
	And every time that we've published a story in the past two months, more employees have come forward with more revealing information.
	In the most recent case, we found that Facebook is sort of misleading the public about its trending news column.
	How?
	How?
	How could that be possible?
	I don't understand.
	How?
	How can this?
	This can't be.
	This is not possible.
	Misleading the public by saying that an algorithm is sorting what people are...
	An algorithm.
	An algorithm.
	Now, algorithm?
	Is it algorithm or algorithm?
	Is it algorithm?
	I think an algorithm.
	Back it up in the segment.
	I thought he said alderman.
	Trendy news column.
	How?
	So it's misleading the public by saying that an algorithm.
	An algorithm.
	Wow.
	I don't know why.
	I've never heard algorithm.
	Maybe you wanted to say something else.
	It's the algorithm, but he said algorithm.
	So it's misleading the public by saying that an algorithm is sorting what people are able to see, but what we've found is that a select group of about 20 journalists, young 20-somethings, often Ivy League educated or from private East Coast schools, What?
	Did you hear that?
	Blame them.
	Because she hits that, actually.
	Are the ones that are sorting through the newsfeed and determining what people are able to see and, more importantly, what they're not able to see.
	I thought that was interesting that you pointed out that they were from Ivy League schools.
	What are you trying to imply?
	Well, they're douchebags.
	I think that there's a selection bias with these editors, right?
	So these aren't seasoned New York Times editors.
	They're certainly not people from the Chicago Tribune.
	Oh, okay.
	They're not official journalists, John.
	You see, they're from Ivy League schools.
	Oh, they're just a bunch of douchebags from Ivy League schools.
	Who, of course, are O-bots.
	And you know we hate them.
	Hell yeah!
	These are contractors in a lot of cases.
	They're low-paid workers that don't get the same benefits as Facebook employees, and I think that we just tried to report...
	I'm not sure why he said that, what that had to do with not being full-time employees.
	I don't know if he's implying something, but it's an interesting point.
	He's rambling.
	Yeah, he's rambling.
	Information is we saw it.
	So in this case, we saw that these students were primarily...
	He gave an example, and he explained the process of how this works, which I think is just interesting.
	I haven't heard this in many other places, if all.
	What's a particular story that they blacklisted?
	Well, so the CPAC conference, for instance, as that was going on, that was not allowed to trend in Facebook's trending news feed.
	In another instance...
	Not allowed means...
	Not allowed means...
	So every single topic that is shown in the trending news feed needs to be activated by one of these curators.
	So they say, yes, this is okay, this is a news event, and we'll allow it to trend.
	The problem is, and so when they do that, they write a summary of the news event, a headline, and find some corresponding stories.
	Yeah, but this is pretty much journalism.
	The problem is that there's such an emphasis on numbers among these curators that they often choose easier stories like Kim Kardashian posting an Instagram photo.
	That's a lot easier to summarize than something as nuanced as Ferguson protests or...
	You know, the Darren Wilson case or something along those lines.
	Something that's not one-dimensional.
	Why, Michael?
	Why would they want to censor it?
	You know, I don't think that this was an intentional...
	I don't think it was an intentional bias that's at play here.
	I think this is just a system that they've placed that allows people to inflate news, basically using something called an injection tool to force news into...
	Injection tool?
	It's an injection...
	Hey, John!
	John, I can see a whole business.
	I can see everywhere.
	I can see Reince Priebus at this very moment going...
	We need an injection tool.
	We need an injection tool.
	And you know what?
	There's someone out there who's going to sell it to them.
	Whatever it is, here's your injection tool with an injection tool dashboard.
	Using something called an injection tool to force news into the trending topics.
	And also suppress news.
	So they can also blacklist news.
	And so, you know, I think when we discovered that they were both inflating, artificially inflating, and also suppressing news.
	Ooh, deflating.
	That calls into question the...
	Is it conflating or deflating?
	No, I think deflating is fine.
	I don't even know what conflating means.
	I'd have to look it up.
	And when he says injection tool, isn't that just an awk or a said script?
	Doesn't seem like a big deal.
	Legitimately, the trending topics...
	Entirely, right?
	These aren't exactly trending topics.
	They're being selected by an editorial board.
	Okay.
	Surprise, surprise, people!
	Duh!
	Yeah, they're pushing an agenda.
	Yeah, of course.
	And there was a survey for F8, an internal survey, and one of the questions was, what is Facebook's responsibility towards stopping Donald Trump?
	Bad optics, people.
	Bad optics.
	But I don't think it will make any difference.
	I don't think it will either.
	In fact, I think it'll make it worse.
	Every time one of these stories crops up and they get spread around like wildfire amongst Trump supporters, they start to dig in and start pushing the story, saying, look what these guys are doing trying to screw us!
	Meanwhile, that story neatly obfuscates another story which should have been getting a lot more traction.
	It definitely got some, but you're not hearing people.
	They don't understand what's going on.
	This is the missing three and a half minutes from an archival footage of Victoria Nuland lying Even better, it was actually Jen Psaki lying about Victoria Nuland who lied when she said that the U.S. had not had any secret negotiations with Iran before the February deal.
	And it turns out, as we now know, that there were secret negotiations going back to 2011.
	And if you look at that videotape of that one particular State Department news briefing, which they do daily...
	All of a sudden there's a white flash when that question comes up, which we see a lot in, it's kind of a standard video editing trick, certainly propagated on the web.
	If you can't really get out easily, if you don't have another shot to cover the edit, you just do a white flash.
	And blind them.
	Yeah.
	And this is exactly what happened only a few weeks ago when Francois Hollande was meeting with President Obama and he said Islamic terrorism and the audio was cut out.
	They just cut the audio out with all kinds of plops and clicks.
	And this is, of course, was intentional.
	I mean, a white flash does not happen.
	I've never seen a video anomaly.
	I've been around video a long time, both analog and digital.
	Man, where's my mind at?
	And digital.
	And that just doesn't happen.
	You can get all kinds of artifacts, but you're not going to get a full-on white flash.
	So this came up in the State Department.
	Matt asked the question.
	I'm a little disappointed by Matt, because there's two obvious points in here where he should have just said, what are you saying?
	What are you talking about?
	As this came up, and the stand-in for Kirby today was Elizabeth Kennedy Trudeau.
	Now, didn't we look into her?
	I don't remember.
	Is she either related to the Kennedys and Justin Trudeau or both?
	I don't know.
	I don't remember.
	She doesn't have a Wikipedia page.
	Oh, crap.
	I forgot the book of knowledge.
	Oh, man.
	Well, listen to her trying to get through Matt's question.
	And then if you're interested, I have, of course, the missing video, audio of the missing video tape, the three minutes that were edited out.
	Here's Matt, our favorite AP reporter.
	This report that the video of briefing from a couple of years back with Jen Psaki was edited to remove Questions and her answers about when the Iran negotiations began.
	What's going on here?
	So we saw that report.
	We actually spoke to Fox about this yesterday.
	So thanks for that question.
	Thanks for that question.
	I'd back up.
	Back up because I got ahead of myself.
	This is a daily press briefing from 2013.
	The transcript of that daily press briefing and video was always available.
	Transcript was on state.gov.
	This is exactly what they said about the previous time this happened.
	Oh, but the transcript was there, but, you know, just the video just got messed up.
	Video was available on other sites.
	There was a glitch in the State Department video.
	When Fox flagged it for us, we actually replaced it with a video from Divids.
	Now, when you are a reporter and someone says, this happened because of a glitch, and you're actually in the televised news business, I would say you have to say, what do you mean?
	He's not in the televised news business.
	Well, yeah, he's in the written news business.
	You're right.
	He's just being televised.
	Well, he did ask a question.
	It's the military repository where a lot of news media gets its video.
	The whole video was there.
	And we also annotated it on our YouTube channel.
	Yeah, but, I mean, a glitch.
	This just seems awfully strange and coincidental.
	Okay.
	Matt Lee.
	Matthew Lee.
	Matthew Lee.
	It is no longer acceptable as a journalist to even consider the word glitch an explanation for anything.
	If you cannot drill down at least one layer deeper and say, do you mean an error?
	A software bug?
	A hard drive crash?
	Anything but glitch.
	Why do reporters, even good ones like Matt Lee, just accept that?
	Even though he's saying, well, it's coincidental, but he didn't even ask what the glitch is, and it gets worse with this woman.
	It's always up, though, and the video existed on other channels.
	I can't speak to...
	If you were looking on the state.gov website and going to try to watch that part of the briefing, it wouldn't have been there.
	So the briefing was there.
	As I said, the full transcript was there.
	Several minutes were, like, missing.
	No, and so we have subbed it out.
	I know, but can you, is anyone looking into it?
	So we are, we're looking into it genuinely.
	Genuinely, wow.
	When you're lying, that's the thing to do.
	Genuinely.
	Isn't that kind of a tell, John, when someone does something like that?
	Do you think that this has anything to do with the Hillary Clinton rumored plane crash?
	Yes!
	Thank you.
	That was going to be my punchline, but yes, of course.
	This is very important.
	And she says...
	Leapfrog the punchline.
	That's okay.
	That's okay.
	We're looking into it genuinely.
	We think it was a glitch.
	I mean, are there other...
	We're looking into it genuinely.
	We think it was a glitch.
	I'm sorry, in what universe does a journalist not question glitch?
	Have we even looked at the definition of glitch?
	Let me ask.
	Book of Knowledge.
	Definition of glitch.
	The term glitch means a fault or defect in a computer program, system, or machine.
	Okay.
	No, it doesn't.
	No, of course not.
	This is a bad definition.
	Remember, this is a computer telling you what it is.
	I mean, are there other reasons?
	I cannot lie.
	Videos that are...
	Not to our knowledge at all, but, you know, what we're taking a look at is process.
	You know, we're unaware of it, and as soon as we found out about it, we made sure it was whole.
	But is there any indication that you've, since this was brought to your attention, I guess, yesterday?
	Yeah.
	Have you discovered that it was altered at all?
	Not to my knowledge.
	There was a missing portion of it.
	We pulled it from another online source.
	Meaning they didn't have the originals anymore.
	Trying to figure out how exactly the portion...
	You know what?
	It's something we're looking into.
	It is.
	We've changed our procedures, and this is so technical, and forgive me for this.
	Okay, right there.
	We've changed our procedures, and this is so technical.
	Please forgive me.
	She goes on to explain absolutely nothing.
	But they have a backstory.
	And I don't know if they changed the procedures after this glitch took place or if the change of procedures was a reason for it.
	It sounds to me like, hey, next time we tell you to rip something out of the video, don't use a white flash, you dick!
	Because that's what happened.
	I can see it happening.
	Like, it comes down...
	We got a call from State.
	We got to edit one of those videos.
	Okay, what do we do?
	We'll talk to the guys down at Editing.
	Okay, guys down at Editing.
	We need to pull out a piece there.
	Okay, what should we do?
	You should just, you know, do it like we always do.
	Do a white flash.
	Alright, cool.
	We got it.
	Somebody got fired!
	And this is so technical.
	So technical.
	No, it's not.
	It's not technical.
	I can figure it out.
	F you, lady, for saying that.
	Forgive me for this.
	We've changed our procedures on that, but we are taking a look at it.
	We're going to edit differently.
	Yeah.
	We're never going to do a white flash edit ever again.
	And we'll change.
	We should probably get rid of the transcripts, too.
	Procedures on that, but we are taking a look at it.
	You know, certainly...
	You know, transparency and getting information to you guys, not only here in the briefing room, but on the web and searchable is a priority.
	Oh, it's a priority.
	It's a priority.
	We can't always do it.
	Replace the white flash with a camera falling over and then being upright.
	No, with a GOATSEE, just right in the middle.
	GOATSEE, right in the middle.
	Do you want to hear the minutes that were lost?
	Yes, I would.
	I think everyone would.
	This is something that only the No Agenda show...
	Where'd you get it?
	Well, as she said, divids.
	That's the military archive, and there was a full copy on it.
	Now there's other copies floating around now, of course.
	Hold on a second, then.
	Why didn't they just use that copy to replace the...
	That's what she said.
	She said they got a copy and then replaced it or put the piece in or probably replaced it.
	Play the piece.
	All right.
	So important to say, this is James Rosen.
	This is the guy who was arrested.
	Wasn't he arrested for being a spy from Fox News?
	I don't remember this either.
	Oh, he was indicted?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	For espionage and he was talking to some guy.
	Oh, right, that guy.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I think so.
	Maybe a coincidence.
	I don't know.
	He's from Fox News.
	So here he is asking...
	Wasn't he from the New York Times originally?
	I thought he was always Fox News.
	No.
	I think there's some New York Times connection.
	Hold on a second.
	Let's get this.
	Stop the show.
	Okay.
	Well, if we have to, let me talk to the engine room again.
	Stop the show, everybody.
	We have a quick little dispute on the floor.
	We want to get talent happy before we proceed.
	Stopping the show.
	Stop tape.
	Stop tape.
	It takes longer every time to stop the show.
	I could just ask the Book of Knowledge if you want to know something.
	Yeah, well you should do that too.
	Book of Knowledge.
	Wikipedia, James Rosen.
	James Rosen is an American journalist and television correspondent.
	He currently works as a Washington, D.C. correspondent for the Fox News Channel.
	Tell me if you'd like me to read more.
	Read more.
	Yes, read more.
	James Rosen is an American journalist in television.
	Shut up!
	Read over.
	I leave for 12 days, she gets all bitchy on me.
	I don't know what's going on with that.
	All right.
	Did you figure it out?
	We'll deal with it later.
	It's not important.
	Okay.
	So now, with that in mind, with the possibility of a Hillary Clinton plane crash that she was involved in...
	It killed one of her staffers.
	Keep that in mind.
	On the 6th of February, in this room, I had a very brief exchange with your predecessor, Victoria Nuland, about Iran.
	And with your indulgence, I will read it in its entirety for the purposes of the record, and so you can respond to it.
	Rosen, there have been reports that intermittently and outside of the formal P5 plus 1 mechanisms, the Obama administration, or members of it, have conducted direct, secret, bilateral talks with Iran.
	Is that true or false?
	Nuland, we have made clear, as the Vice President did at Munich, that in the context of the larger P5 plus 1 framework, we would be prepared to talk to Iran bilaterally.
	But with regard to the kind of thing that you're talking about on a government-to-government level, no.
	That's the entirety of the exchange.
	As we now know, senior State Department officials had in fact been conducting direct secret bilateral talks with senior officials of the Iranian government in Oman, perhaps dating back to 2011 by that point.
	So the question today is a simple one.
	When the briefer was asked about those talks and flatly denied them from the podium, that was untrue, correct?
	I like his phraseology.
	That is untrue, correct?
	I mean, James, you're talking about a February briefing, so 10 months ago.
	Oh my gosh.
	I don't think we've outlined or confirmed contacts or specifics beyond a March meeting.
	I'm not going to confirm others beyond that at this point.
	So...
	Do you stand by the accuracy of what Ms.
	Newland told me?
	That there had been no government-to-government contacts, no secret direct bilateral talks with Iran as of the date of that briefing, February 6th?
	Do you stand by the accuracy of that?
	James, I have no new information for you today on the timing of when there were any discussions with any Iranian officials.
	Let me try it one last way.
	Okay.
	Go for it.
	One more.
	Is it the policy of the State Department?
	I love when you go, sure!
	You know I'm not going to say anything.
	You can ask all you want.
	Sure!
	With any Iranian officials.
	Let me try it one last way, Jen, and I appreciate your indulgence.
	Sure.
	Is it the policy of the State Department where the preservation of the secrecy of secret negotiations is concerned to lie in order to achieve that goal?
	I don't see what's so damning about all this at the moment.
	James, I think there are times where diplomacy needs privacy in order to progress.
	This is a good example of that.
	Obviously, we have made clear and laid out a number of details in recent weeks about discussions and about a bilateral channel that fed into the P5 plus 1 negotiations.
	We've answered questions on it.
	We've confirmed details.
	We're happy to continue to do that, but clearly this was an important component leading up to the agreement that was reached a week ago.
	Since you, standing at that podium last week, did confirm that there were such talks at least as far back as March of this year, I don't see what would prohibit you from addressing directly this question.
	I do.
	Were there secret direct bilateral talks between the United States and Iranian officials in 2011?
	I don't have anything more for you today.
	We've long had ways to speak with the Iranians through a range of channels, some of which you talked.
	A channel?
	Mmm.
	You mentioned.
	Ensign, open a channel.
	But I don't have any other specifics for you today.
	The Los Angeles Times and Politico have reported that those talks were held as far back as 2011.
	Were those reports inaccurate?
	I'm not sure which reports you're talking about.
	Are you talking about visits that the Secretary and others made to Oman, or are you talking about other reports?
	I'm talking about U.S. officials meeting directly and secretly with Iranian officials in Oman as far back as 2011.
	The Los Angeles Times and Politico have reported those meetings.
	Were those reports inaccurate?
	I have nothing more for you on it.
	So that had to be removed.
	And there's only one reason in my mind why that needs to be removed now.
	And that is an obvious link between Hillary Clinton's health and something that happened probably in Oman when it comes to an aviation incident that she was in.
	There must be some way of getting some records...
	Of the plane crash, because plane crashes are always reported, investigated, you just don't have a plane crash, and then it just disappears off the face of the earth.
	I mean, when it comes to military, they can do anything they want.
	Yeah, but just the State Department, it's not like a military plane.
	Hmm.
	Well, if anyone knows anything, they will talk to us.
	But it seems to me a 2011 crash in Oman, which would have had at least one casualty.
	It may have been an incursion on the runway.
	I mean, this is where that would come.
	We have no idea.
	But otherwise, why else?
	It's not that damning.
	Like a whoop-de-doo.
	But the secretary at the time was, of course, Hillary Clinton.
	And she'd be the one, because she loves traveling.
	Yeah, brack up those miles.
	Yeah.
	Wrecking up Miles.
	She's the one to be floating around, being a big shot, and then she's getting to this wreck, and God, don't let this information get out.
	Now, it's a cover-up.
	Which is what always fails.
	Well, we're going to...
	This guy's onto it.
	This guy's irked, anyway.
	I mean, that's the truth.
	But White House was on James Rosen.
	There's story after story about them spying on him in 2009.
	Yeah.
	I think there was something between him and Clinton, and I think he's the one who discovered the missing three minutes.
	Hmm.
	Possible.
	Possible.
	I was just thinking, I should have done this, I don't know why I didn't, but maybe there would be something on one of the flyer talk forums about this.
	Let me just see, real quick.
	Oman in 2011.
	Let's see.
	These guys report on everything.
	Hmm.
	Search.
	Okay.
	One result.
	Really?
	One result?
	Oh, no result.
	Alright.
	The work needs to be done.
	But we have enough people who are around in positions of being able to know this.
	And it was probably reported as some military plane, something else.
	But if we can at least pinpoint a 2011 incursion in Oman, then we're a step further.
	So producers, get on your ball.
	On your ball.
	Another scandal around Hillary.
	Yeah.
	Well, that is kind of coming down to a close.
	Now, if you've been watching any mainstream news media, you've seen the, hey, Hillary's calling it a security, what's she calling it?
	Security review?
	James Comey coming out and saying, what?
	No, this is not a, what are you talking about?
	I don't understand any of this.
	This is not a review.
	In fact, here we have Fox News reporting on this.
	Well, here's the thing.
	The FBI director, James Comey, today said this to a pen and pad with reporters, not on camera, but on the record.
	Quote, I don't know what that means.
	We're conducting an investigation.
	That's the Bureau's business.
	That's what we do.
	I'm not familiar with the term security inquiry, he went on to say, or security review.
	So basically, whatever Hillary Clinton calls it, it's still an investigation.
	Yes, and it's not complete.
	And this is one of the reasons Bernie Sanders is still in the race.
	So long as Clinton has this hangover, he wants to make sure the Democratic voters have an alternative.
	I think the FBI is getting very frustrated.
	I think they are under some political pressure here to wrap things up quickly and to leave her alone.
	And I think, as our colleague Judge Mahalitano was saying earlier today, you have to remember the same group that investigated David Petraeus is investigating Hillary Clinton.
	And a lot of them think Clinton did things that are probably a lot more serious than Petraeus ever did, and they're looking at the punishment that he faced.
	I think they're frustrated.
	So you mentioned Judge Napolitano there, who I like a lot.
	I think we look on the show, we like him in general for his analysis, because it's always pretty broad and out there of what possibly could happen.
	Here, let me see.
	Before we play that, another quick...
	Quick ten seconds here about something that apparently happened during some of these depositions with some of the actors involved.
	Comey doesn't like people making light of what his team of professionals are doing.
	Whatever comes out of this investigation, he's annoyed, and Cheryl Mills' walkout doesn't look good.
	If it's just a security review, why are you walking out?
	Did you know about this?
	Yeah, I did.
	So she walked out?
	Talk about optics.
	She's been in our conversation on and off for a while.
	We thought the guy was going to be the fall guy, but now it turns out maybe sheriff.
	But for her to walk out, or at least someone leaked that information.
	I've had it with this questioning.
	I'm out.
	Listen to Napolitano.
	The judge Napolitano really takes it all the way home.
	It's something that causes closer and closer to a perfect storm for Mrs.
	Clinton.
	There's a lot of moving parts.
	Last week, her five closest aides were interviewed by the Department of Justice and the FBI. One of them reportedly said, I don't remember, I don't remember, I don't remember.
	Red flag to the FBI. Next week, Mrs.
	Clinton will be interviewed by the FBI, even though she told all kinds of reporters over the weekend, I've never heard from them.
	Of course she never heard from them.
	Her lawyer has heard from them.
	Next week, her closest aides will be giving a deposition, an examination under oath outside of the courtroom on the whereabouts of emails.
	Now we find out tonight that the most significant of her staffers, the guy she paid $5,000 to to commit a felony, To migrate her secret emails from a government server to a non-secure personal server.
	Her IT specialists, they can't find his emails.
	And at the same time, we learned there's a debate going on in the Kremlin between the foreign ministry and the intelligence services about whether or not they should release the 20,000 of Mrs.
	Clinton's emails that they have hacked into and received and stored.
	All of this is happening at once.
	Hello, Donald.
	This is Vlad.
	Listen.
	Listen.
	I just tell them I have all the emails.
	We hacked them.
	It's funny.
	It's funny.
	We tell them we released them.
	What do you think, Donald?
	I can see it.
	It's beautiful.
	Yeah.
	Donald, I respect you.
	I can see those two guys becoming great friends.
	George Bush became buddies with him.
	Yeah, hands across the border, people.
	That's fantastic.
	I love this.
	This is very, very funny.
	Then all of a sudden, out on the talk show circuit, on the...
	Let's see.
	He showed up on a couple of places.
	I think CNN... I don't know if I have...
	Maybe missing that one.
	So Sidney Blumenthal is intimately involved in this, and we know from a lot of his emails, some of the more confidential ones, that he would be sending advice to Hillary Clinton.
	There were documents that went back and forth, mainly as it pertains to Libya.
	And Blumenthal, I guess he's a lobbyist?
	Is he officially a lobbyist?
	Maybe a consultant.
	I don't think he's a registered lobbyist.
	But what the implication is...
	He refused to talk to the FBI. Well, that's not exactly what he says.
	He says, well, I have a clip.
	But first, when you're CNBC, I love these guys, the morning crew over there.
	They nailed them right up.
	CNBC? MSNBC. CNBC. So, Joe, what's his name?
	The lead guy in the morning.
	What's his name?
	Joe.
	When you hear him, you'll know.
	And nails the guy right in the beginning.
	He met with the FBI about the emails.
	Well, as I've said, I can't comment on an ongoing investigation.
	Well, at least you called it an investigation.
	So you're off the reservation there.
	So it's not just a, what did you call it?
	A security review, I think.
	Because Comey yesterday said, I don't know what that is.
	The word investigate is in FBI, Federal Bureau of Investigation.
	This is an investigation.
	So we cleared that up.
	Now, the implication is that as he was working with a full-time job for the Clinton Foundation, he would be sending Hillary Clinton emails with intel saying, hey, you know, beautiful actually, Gaddafi is going to use all his gold to create the gold dinar.
	And this is something that Hillary Clinton then passed around and said, oh, we've got to do something about this.
	We've got to talk.
	And really what was happening is the French were afraid of this.
	At the time, it was Sarkozy.
	And he had an election coming up, so he really wanted to start bombing Libya.
	He had a bad background, you know, like bad optics with Gaddafi.
	Of course, everyone's been photographed with Gaddafi at the tent.
	Everybody.
	Clinton.
	Tony Blair.
	But Trump!
	Didn't Trump have Gaddafi pitch his tent in his backyard?
	Was it Gaddafi who pitched the tent?
	Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
	I'm pretty sure.
	Could be.
	Could be.
	Well, he had all his extra properties.
	Yeah, you can set up shop here because apparently Gaddafi needed to be in a tent.
	Yeah, Muammar Gaddafi's tent finds home on Donald Trump's estate September 22nd, 2009.
	Yeah.
	And there's pictures.
	Remember he had all those hot bodyguards?
	All the hot chicks?
	Right, the hot nurses.
	They were not nurses.
	No, no, no.
	They were dressed in uniforms.
	I thought there was a...
	Oh, that's right.
	That's right.
	I thought he had some hot nurses too, but that may have been somebody else.
	His bodyguards.
	I don't know.
	Yeah, the hot bodyguards.
	Yeah.
	Let's see.
	I gotta look at those pictures again.
	Yeah, all those women.
	Very nice.
	Okay, so everybody had bad optics there, but the implication is, look, if something needed to happen in Libya, and then, hey, Hillary, here's what's going on in Libya, and then you get a big donation from the Clinton Foundation, which, according to the morning team here, gee, how silly.
	A Clinton Foundation donation or the other way around?
	No, there would be a donation, in this case maybe from France or a French NGO, something, into the Clinton Foundation.
	Yes, you said from.
	Oh, I made a mistake.
	Into the Clinton Foundation, and that would then, of course, be the incentive to change or to adjust or to implement new policy.
	Here he is.
	So you couldn't really join the State Department, and I don't know whether that was just because of bad blood between you and the Obama administration, or whatever it was.
	But then you're representing some clients in Libya, but still able to influence the Secretary of State and on the payroll of the Clinton Foundation.
	Is that all above board?
	I mean, does it just look bad, or is it actually, is there something there that's unethical?
	Kind of nice they're asking actual questions, don't you think?
	Stunned.
	Well, that's not really an accurate representation of what happened.
	But let me just say that I testified before the Benghazi Committee.
	I answered, It wasn't televised, but they said it was a very cordial...
	I tested for nine and a half hours.
	I wanted it to be public.
	Second I came out, I said I wanted it to be public.
	On the question of so-called clients, I had no contracts with anybody.
	I didn't invest in any Buddy, no one made a nickel.
	No one spent a penny.
	And I had a real job at the Clinton Foundation working on educational projects.
	That was a separate matter.
	All these were clarified.
	So you weren't getting paid by Libya?
	No.
	But should we think that...
	At that time, maybe.
	...there was ever influence in State Department affairs that were influenced by donations to the Clinton Foundation?
	I don't know whether we've totally vetted whether that's...
	It certainly has the aura of perhaps there's something untoward.
	At least certain people think that.
	This is bullcrap.
	You know, the way this works...
	Yeah, you don't get paid by them.
	And the reason for that is because if somebody asks you directly, are you being paid by the Libyans to say these things?
	You say, no, I'm not getting paid a nickel.
	After the whole thing is over, it's always agreed upon that then you can bill them for it after the fact.
	Yes.
	Very common to do that.
	But it is well known and well published that Blumenthal was a consultant to Libyan interests.
	Previous to this.
	So, of course, the payment and everything can come later.
	They know how to back themselves up.
	He does say something at the end.
	There's something that comes up at the very end here.
	I think that reports show that there were not donations to the Clinton Foundation that had any influence on State Department policy.
	Yeah.
	What reports?
	I don't think anyone's actually looked at that correlation deeply.
	You know, about the Benghazi committee, I've urged for the release of my transcript.
	I've always urged for it.
	So I want it to be completely public.
	How would we know that donations wouldn't affect policy?
	Yes.
	Now you're talking.
	How would we know?
	Of course, wrong question.
	How can you prove a negative?
	I mean...
	How would you know?
	Yeah.
	Well, I think that there have been some examples that have been reported in the Times, and they have been debunked in the uranium.
	Are you or the Clintons at all concerned about this film that's coming out, I think, in the next several days from Cannes, a documentary about the Clintons and the money?
	I don't know anything about that.
	Yes, he says, I don't know anything about that.
	I don't know anything about it.
	Witness the trailer for Clinton Cash.
	Greetings from Washington.
	I want to thank all of you for your work to root out corruption that weakens economic development, feeds black markets, and organized crime, and undermines the promise of democracy.
	I believe in the oldest adage in American politics, which is, follow the money.
	A new report today claims that the Clinton Foundation gives about 10% of its money that it raises to actual charities.
	Enormous amounts of money have flowed to the Clintons from foreign governments, foreign financiers, and businesses.
	The Clinton Foundation dropping its self-imposed ban on collecting funds from foreign governments and entities.
	You have a foreign corporation or a foreign government that wants something from the State Department while Hillary Clinton is Secretary of State.
	They will make a large payment to the Clinton Foundation.
	That will be followed by favorable action on their behalf.
	They've created a model for massive self-enrichment that allows you to go into so-called public service, but get extremely rich at the same time.
	Oh yeah.
	I gotta pay our bills.
	Before we had to worry about money from Wall Street and big labor.
	Now we have to worry about it coming from around the world and infecting our politics.
	With the Clintons, nothing is sacred.
	Everything is for sale.
	But we are the ones who are paying the price.
	Maybe, just maybe, the American people are tired of being sold out.
	We just need cash.
	I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.
	Just send your cash.
	I mean, that is the land of unconfirmed ideas.
	We came, we saw, we died.
	So the timing is perfect, isn't it?
	Well, who produced this thing?
	Oh, that I don't know.
	Who cares?
	Well, I do.
	Okay, let's see.
	Clinton Cash movie.
	Let's take a look.
	We can find out very easily.
	Should be in the IMDb.
	Yeah, the search contains IMDb.
	Peter Schweitzer.
	Let me see.
	Interesting.
	Peter Schweitzer is the author.
	Was that the guy from the book?
	I think it is.
	It's probably...
	Meh.
	It doesn't ring a bell.
	You know, they don't have a proper...
	It seems they don't have a proper entry in IMDb.
	That is odd.
	Let me see.
	Peter Schweitzer.
	And...
	Clinton Cash is not on IMDb.
	If it's in Cannes, if it's playing in Cannes, being introduced...
	It's got to be an IMDB. That makes no sense.
	Let me look at Clinton.
	Well, you know, think about it.
	Let's stop.
	Yeah, I know exactly where you're going.
	If you're going to bring something like this out, you have to keep it under wraps as long as you can because the Clintons will go after you and the thing never comes out.
	Yeah.
	Let me see.
	Okay, here's Schweitzer.
	Notable works.
	He's done Do As I Say, Not As I Do.
	Profiles in Liberal Hypocrisy.
	Okay, so he's a right-winger.
	Clinton Cash.
	And he's got PeterSchweitzer.com.
	Let's see what it says.
	Investigative products.
	Early work on Jeremiah Denton's National Forum Foundation.
	Focus on many fronts in the Cold War.
	He's an old-timer.
	Co-authored a National Review article with Denton's son, James, often cited as Jim, murdering SDI about the suspicious deaths of several European officials who supported the Strategic Defense Initiative.
	That's interesting.
	That's pre-no agenda.
	Well, at the NFF, Schweitzer also published a report titled, The Meaning and Destiny of the Sandista Revolution.
	In 2012, Steve Croft used Streisand's work as a basis for a blockbuster report on CBS's 60 Minutes about Congressional Insider Trading.
	That's the one that we talked about, about the Congress doing insider trading.
	Oh, yes!
	And then keeping all their documents buried there.
	You have to go look at it by hand.
	We had one guy go there to find it.
	Down in the basement, yeah.
	Down in the basement.
	Titled Insider, The Road to...
	Hold on a second.
	You know, some idiot, it's got some, I'm on some, I'm getting pinged on the Skype.
	Uh-huh.
	The road to stop, da-da-da, throw them all out, blah, blah, blah.
	Dan Fluet is the producer.
	These are operatives.
	These are not movie people.
	This is probably...
	And just hearing those clips, I heard pretty much every single clip we've had on our show.
	I think they just made a movie with a whole bunch of no-agenda clips.
	Wouldn't be the first time people take our clips and make a new product out of it.
	Let's see.
	Daniel Fluet is a producer.
	His previous works have included The Hope and the Change, The Undefeated, Battle for America, Fire from the Heartland, Grace Before Meals, Push in the Face of Evil, and Score.
	I would say he's a right-winger.
	Oh, yeah.
	He's only done documentaries, although Grace Before Meals, he was an associate producer, which, you know.
	I should mention something that happened, I think it was in 2008, I remember the discussion about this.
	And they had, I think it was about Michael Moore.
	The Republican, some think tank, had gone and determined that the most important next step for the Republican conservatives was to get good at documentaries because...
	They thought that they were really sucked at him, and I think that's probably still true.
	And Obama bots, when they see a documentary, or if they see Jon Stewart blathering on stage for a half hour, they go all like, oh yeah.
	They go all into, oh man, this is so interesting.
	So, you know, it really makes you stop and think.
	They kind of do the same thing now with the British guy that you detest.
	I don't detest anybody.
	British guy?
	The British guy I detest?
	You bitch about him, because I don't understand how a British guy can say these things.
	Cliff Richard?
	No, the guy's on HBO, I think, or Showtime.
	Oh, Oliver.
	Yeah, John Oliver.
	Yeah, John Oliver.
	Please, everybody go look at his most recent episode where he talks about how studies and study shows.
	20 minutes to 25 minutes, the guy goes on about how studies show and the things are happening and how the news media propagates it without reading anything.
	And everything is bogus.
	All these studies, all stupid.
	But not a word about, I don't know, 97% of all scientists or anything like that.
	No.
	We'll just gloss right over that.
	Which brings me to another thing, if we can interject.
	Are we done with this?
	Yeah, I'm kind of done with Clinton.
	All right, well, I think we left it.
	We got a few things.
	We got some homework to do.
	Yeah.
	And I hate that idea.
	But I did want to mention that I had dinner.
	Tina and I had dinner.
	Ah, here we go.
	We need an intro for these dinners.
	Well, we have an intro, but it was not really a full-on O-Bot dinner.
	You know, because what happened was the artist and her husband had to cancel.
	It's another installment of...
	So it wasn't really an O-Bot dinner.
	Oh, they weren't there.
	No, because they weren't there.
	Now, of course...
	Yeah, but you were there at the professor who's a total O-Bot.
	Yes, Professor Russ is, of course, an O-Bot, as is his lovely wife, Jennifer.
	Who, for some reason, was really very talkative and happy.
	I don't know.
	She's probably talkative because the other two, the artist and her husband, may be intimidating.
	It could be.
	Some people, you know, it reminds me.
	I'm not going to.
	I hate to use this as an example.
	That's okay.
	But they just went into the Cable Hall of Fame because I watched this show.
	I think it's one of the best shows on television.
	You'll think I'm crazy.
	It's the NBA show that's done on TNT with Charles Barkley, Shaq, and Kenny.
	Yeah, I watch it all the time.
	Well, you never watch it.
	But it's a great show because it's very funny.
	But when they start substituting people, Shaq kills you.
	Yeah, the magic is gone.
	Well, the magic's gone, but it also changes the dynamics.
	Shaquille O'Neal talks all the time when Charles Barkley's not there.
	Barkley otherwise hogs the whole conversation.
	And so the dynamics change as the people change, is all the point I'm trying to make.
	And boy, did it ever change.
	But the professor, I said, hey, how's it going?
	We talked a little bit of politics, of course, and obviously the first thing he says is, Well, I bet you're really happy.
	What do you mean?
	Why would you be happy?
	You should have said yes.
	I had a great trip in Amsterdam.
	I got some publicity.
	Thanks.
	Yeah, thanks for putting those paparazzi pictures in the newsletter.
	I was pretty funny.
	Those are the covers.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, well, yes.
	This is fantastic for the show.
	This is really good.
	It's a teaching moment for the universe, and we're trying to provide the tools to learn.
	He wasn't buying that at all, of course.
	Yeah, sure.
	Because the show is just a pro-Trump show.
	Yeah, of course.
	So then I go to Jennifer and say, what are your thoughts?
	She says, well, let me guess.
	You're going to hold your nose and vote for Clillery?
	For Clillery.
	Something's wrong with Clillery.
	Something's wrong with Clillery.
	That's it.
	Clillery, a new name.
	Are you going to vote for her?
	And yes, of course, this is the meme.
	Hold your nose and vote for Hillary.
	Hold your nose and vote for Hillary.
	Yeah, I guess so.
	She was not happy, but yeah, she will.
	But then the professor said, well, I'm kind of in a midlife crisis.
	Oh.
	He says that?
	Yes, to me.
	Privately.
	The girls are talking.
	Well, this is not too private now, but go on.
	Oh, no.
	Hello.
	He knows the drill.
	I hope.
	Just between you and me, Adam.
	Just between you and me, Adam.
	I think he's looking for a job, really, because why else would you say the following?
	The world of psychology, and of course he's in neurosciences.
	Yeah, one of the top men.
	Yeah, he is.
	He was stolen from UT by Stanford.
	That does not happen because you suck.
	And he's got a lab, and he just got somebody's chair award, and they actually give you a chair?
	One of these awards?
	They do?
	No.
	Just called a chair.
	No, but he received a chair.
	What?
	Is this true?
	Yes!
	They actually gave him a chair?
	Well, let me...
	You don't believe me?
	No!
	He even posted about it.
	Okay, well, if he posted about it...
	Now I'm thinking maybe I should read it to you.
	We'll find it.
	Anyway.
	Let's assume that you've got a chair.
	Go on.
	Now, I didn't want to take notes, so I got one key bit of information wrong, but I'm pretty sure one of our producers will know, if not in the chat room later.
	He says, what's been going on, there's a crisis in the field of psychology that psychologists all over the world have been tweaking their studies by tweaking the N-key numbers, I think is what it's called.
	N-key numbers.
	I don't know.
	Okay, so there's some variable in statistics, which is why I don't understand any of it.
	There's some variable that start N-something, and the general exception...
	We will have the answer on the Sunday show.
	Yeah, we will.
	The general acceptance now by the psychological community is they've all been so worried about not being published, because of course...
	If you don't have any results, you're not going to get published.
	There's so much data at this point in these sciences, particularly from MRIs, etc., that you can pretty much manipulate the data to get any outcome you want.
	And he is disgusted.
	He's sick and tired of it.
	He says, you know, I'm at the point in my life, I want to, you know, do something, break something.
	He's like, how old are you again?
	He's 49.
	He's like, yeah, that's about the time when you want to do that, and I encourage that.
	And, of course, my next step in was, well, hey, man, if that's happening in neuroscience, could it be happening with global warming?
	I know.
	Well, I don't know enough about the field.
	Okay, thanks.
	But my point was made and taken.
	Oh, dynamite.
	That was a three-pointer.
	Yeah, it was.
	So we need to look into this, because he says everyone's talking about this, this crisis in psychology because of the manipulation of the data.
	Interesting.
	Hmm.
	Well, you've got to get published.
	Get your tenure.
	You've got to get published to get those grants.
	You've got to get published for this and that.
	So, yeah.
	And you find something everyone's interested in.
	And then you...
	Oh, wait.
	Maybe it's the p-values.
	You know what?
	Someone just posted this in the chat room.
	Yeah.
	I don't know why I came up with any number, but I think it's the p-values.
	You're right.
	Hold on.
	Next letter over.
	Let's see.
	P-values.
	Statistics.
	Fraud.
	That's how I search the Googles.
	Ah, here you go.
	Statistical errors.
	Yes, the p-value.
	There you go.
	Thank you, chatroom.
	AJSGROY. That's what it is.
	The p-values.
	And so this is what is used in statistical modeling, which I believe would be the same used in predictive modeling.
	P-value is a measure of discrepancy of the fit of a model or null hypotheses, H to data Y. In theory, the P-value is a continuous measure of evidence, but in practice it is typically trichotomized approximately into strong evidence, weak evidence, and no evidence.
	They want to move away from the no evidence.
	Yeah, it's just moving the p-value up.
	That's all you have to do.
	It changes things across the board.
	That's the idea.
	I'm going to put this in the show notes.
	P-values.
	Before the Sunday show, even.
	Before the Thursday show was even done, we had it.
	We did it on the fly.
	So there's a crisis in that field, and they're recognizing it.
	I haven't seen it on the front page of the New York Times.
	And wouldn't this be important when we're looking at SSRI, medication, all kinds of drugs?
	Wouldn't it be important to know that many, many of these studies, which John Oliver pretty much should have been talking about on his damn show with the P-values, wouldn't it be important to discuss this, make up a, what do they call it, conversation?
	Yes, yes.
	Well, it's not happening, people.
	Shut up, slave!
	It's another installment of...
	That's all you got?
	That's all I got.
	I told you it was not a full-on...
	Was the food any good at least?
	Oh, we went to the Salty Sow, which was dynamite.
	The Salty Sow?
	That's where Michelle Obama ate when she was in.
	I'm sure that's why they chose the restaurant.
	Damn it, I should have remembered to ask.
	Oh, man, I missed that.
	What an opportunity to ridicule.
	Oh, man.
	So, come on, champ.
	Show us how tough you are.
	I'm not tough enough, apparently.
	Oh, man.
	Yeah, the Salty Sow.
	Famous in Austin.
	Michelle went there.
	Let's go there.
	I'm going to send her an email and say, hey, how'd you come up with salty salad?
	You know it's true.
	It had bone marrow, which doesn't sound appetizing.
	Appetizer or an entree?
	Appetizer.
	And it doesn't sound appetizing, and I don't think it's presented appetizing.
	They don't do a good presentation.
	Well, they do half like a bone and the goop is in the bone.
	In that half bone, you're scooping it out of the trough in the bone.
	Tina took one look at it.
	She's like, yeah, no, I'm going to have soup.
	She didn't eat the bone marrow?
	She's not a bone marrow eater?
	No.
	She didn't want to try it for the first time in that presentation, which I can understand.
	Well, I don't know what the presentation was.
	I just told you.
	No, you told me, but I don't see it.
	I mean, I can't visualize.
	It's just a bone?
	No.
	Okay, here we go.
	Close your eyes.
	I'm going to help you.
	Close your eyes.
	Imagine, what is the bone that connects your...
	First theremin.
	I'm sorry.
	You're right.
	What am I even thinking?
	Theremin.
	All right.
	Close my eyes.
	Here we go.
	Close your eyes.
	Okay, now here we have a bone, about a foot-long bone, and it's sawed lengthwise in half, so you have like a trough, like a gutter on a house, and that's filled with chunky green-brown goop, which you then slide out onto...
	Yeah, green-brown.
	There were green bits in it.
	Ugh.
	Right, so you get my point.
	Then you just scrape it out with the back end of a spoon or what?
	Yes, yes.
	Green?
	It was green and brown, yeah.
	Ah!
	What color?
	Green.
	And it had kind of slimy bits in it.
	Yeah, it's always slimy.
	Yeah.
	So I can imagine where someone might say, you know, look, I'm fearless.
	If I saw the green, I probably wouldn't.
	You can put anything in my mouth.
	No, that's not the way it's normally.
	It shouldn't be prepared that way.
	It shouldn't be presented that way.
	And we also had a charcuterie board.
	No, but it was good food.
	Salty Sour is well known for its ambiance and good food.
	I've only had dinner there once a long time ago.
	It was very enjoyable.
	A recommendation from Adam and Michelle.
	Well, okay.
	And...
	Next time in Austin, I'll go there for sure.
	With that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John, say where the C stands for causal inference, Dvorak.
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Where's my echo chamber?
	There it is.
	And in the morning to all ships in the sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water.
	And all the damies and knights out there.
	In the morning to Nick the Rat and all of our artists who always bring us fabulous art for our album depiction in the show notes.
	Today will be 824.noagendanotes.com You can find all of the shows and links to the notes at archive.noagendanotes.com And, of course, artgenerator.com is where you can submit your art.
	And I want to say in the morning to the chat room, who have been very helpful today.
	And noagendastream.com.
	Bantu, Mountain Vortex, and Void Zero.
	Everyone's on the ball, John.
	Everyone's here to help.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Well, if you have a few people to thank, we've got one, two executive producers and one, two, three associate executive producers.
	But the one executive producer, Tom Perrone in Kettleby, Ontario, decided to contribute $2,345.67 on his way to Archduke.
	Wow!
	Wow!
	Yeah.
	Save the show.
	Does he have a note to go with this fabulous, fabulous help?
	Yeah, he has a note that's sent in.
	Tom Perot?
	Has he ever donated before?
	Yeah, he's donated a lot.
	Oh, okay.
	He's a knight.
	He's Sir Tom Perot.
	I didn't realize.
	Okay, good.
	He is known as...
	He has a nickname, which as soon as I say it, you'll say, oh, yeah, right, he's been on here a million times.
	Yeah, it's Don Tommaso.
	Oh, yes, of course we know Don Tommaso.
	Don Tommaso.
	So Don Tommaso, Toronto.
	Dear Wallace and Gromit, I have been dismayed as the lack of donations of late.
	The show quality, he says, and content have been more than outstanding.
	And in fact, if anyone listened to Adam's presentation here of the two items that we had at the beginning of the show, you would know exactly true.
	Including the thing about the data in Uber, which nobody's reporting on, but they talk about it.
	I think this, I think that.
	I think what they, you know, right, right, right, right?
	You know, they got to do, right?
	I think this, I think this, I think Uber, I think this, I think that.
	Well, no, I think, right?
	Right?
	Uh-huh.
	Uh-huh, right?
	I finally limited, or I'm sorry, geez, I'm not going to be able to read anything today.
	I finally landed a great job after many years of underpaid frustration.
	The thing that sealed the deal was value for value.
	I was able to demonstrate and the personal brand I have been building using the techniques and values demonstrated by the fantastic hosts of No Agenda Show.
	It's better than a personal career coach.
	We, he says, we are better than a personal career coach.
	Huh?
	Yeah, we, you and I, are better than a personal career coach.
	Whatever we're doing, which is not completely intentional, it helps people.
	Some of it's not intentional, some of it is.
	But you're right.
	I think generally speaking, the best stuff that we deliver is not intentional as career coaching, but it turns out to be a good example.
	The new gig, he says, involves a longer commute and no agenda is perfect for the ride.
	Ta-da!
	I laughed all the way to and from work while listening to the clip show.
	It was fantastic!
	It is pretty funny.
	I am sending you the amount of 2345.67, which came from a rental we have on Airbnb and will continue to share some of that income with you and hope to make Archduke this year.
	How nice.
	I could have sent it in Canadian dollaretts.
	Dollaretts.
	I like that.
	The Canadian dollaretts.
	Dollaretts, but I didn't have a wheelbarrow big enough.
	So he needs a de-douching, which he doesn't need.
	No, but we'll give it to him.
	He wants one.
	He requests it.
	Whatever he says goes.
	Whatever he wants, yes.
	Can I get a de-douching followed by Oreos are more addictive than cocaine.
	Yeah.
	The Hillary laugh cackle.
	And Dr.
	Kiki's it's science.
	Okay.
	We'll give him a karma whether he likes it or not.
	Yeah, no, of course he needs the science.
	And then he continues.
	You guys are awesome!
	So there you go.
	Alrighty.
	That's all he wants?
	Doesn't seem like much for...
	Doesn't seem like much.
	Doesn't seem like much at all.
	Okay, here we go.
	D-douching starts off first.
	You've been D-douched.
	Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine.
	Ah!
	But anyway, that was just my little side note that I had to make.
	Oh man, why did I get this one?
	Which is that?
	I don't know if that's not the right one.
	Shut up already!
	Science!
	Science!
	There we go.
	You've got karma.
	Sorry.
	So he's a duke on his way to Archdukedom.
	That is fantastic.
	Welcome back aboard, my friend.
	Thank you so much.
	Always disheartening to see the chat room.
	Oh, I think I'll skip a couple weeks now.
	Hey, thanks, everybody.
	Yeah, that's the attitude.
	That's the attitude.
	Yeah, but they're the douchebags in the chat room.
	That's the attitude.
	They do good work, and then the next thing they turn on you.
	Yeah.
	Okay, let me take a look.
	They turn on you.
	They turn on you.
	Turncoats!
	G-R-E-G-R-E-N. Is it N-E or N-E? Just N. Let's see.
	I'm sorry, I'm looking up an email to see if we got a note from Mr.
	Green.
	We had a bunch of them, actually.
	I'm trying to figure out which one to read.
	Yeah, I thought Jim Green...
	Jim Green?
	I'm having...
	It's affecting me, too.
	There's something wrong, something in the air.
	There was something...
	This was a note that was going back and forth.
	Hold on, Eric was a note here.
	Somehow it missed the...
	Yeah, it should have been part of May 1st show, but his donations never showed up.
	Well, it did show up, but it didn't show up on the spreadsheet.
	Okay, well, the spreadsheet makers say they're researching how this glitch happened.
	I think it was just a glitch.
	Pretty sure.
	That's acceptable.
	So I have a bunch of notes from it, but I don't have any requests for jingles.
	Well, why don't you read whatever notes you got?
	No, sorry for being a pain in the ass, but he's just going on.
	He's getting knighthood today as a black knight because, you know, it should have been May 1st.
	Ah, here it is.
	In the morning, gents, my 33rd birthday is on May 4th.
	I figured a donation of 33333.
	Put him on the birthday list.
	I will.
	This also gets me a seat at the No Agenda Roundtable.
	I was hit in the mouth about a year ago by Sir Scott Fuller.
	And it was a little critical of the show at first, but now it is at the top of my queue.
	And no, I'm not pandering to the Brits, as this is truly the best podcast in the universe!
	I would like to be known simply as Sir James Green, Lord of...
	And then he has this native ad space for sale.
	Well, that's an interesting way of doing it.
	Lord of the Oreos or something like that.
	Okay, let me put him on the birthday list.
	So, Jim Green.
	So, Sir Jim Green.
	And he was, what was he?
	33 May 4th.
	He might, okay.
	And he's also a knight.
	This is nice.
	Okay, he's on the night list.
	Okay, good.
	Thank you, Sir Jim, or you will be Sir Jim.
	And then anybody who wants to buy, gets a hold of him, I don't know if you want to publish this, and they can buy his name.
	His title.
	It'll be Sir Jim, Knight of the AT&T. Well, he probably wouldn't accept that, but...
	All right.
	Onward.
	Naming rights.
	By the way, he's in Sugar Hill, Georgia, if anyone wants to go by and say hi.
	Nick Kosterman in Oakville, Ontario, Canada, 23456, one of my absolute favorite donations.
	He did send an email in with a note.
	Hey, John!
	And Adam, I donated through PayPal, but missed the added message window.
	Please find the following message for the donation segment.
	He's a millennial.
	He says a bit about myself.
	I'm a millennial, but not a scrub.
	What does that mean?
	A scrub?
	Yeah, that's what he says.
	I'm a millennial, but not a scrub.
	Book of knowledge.
	Definition of scrub.
	The term scrub has several different uses.
	As an adjective, one, of domestic animals, not selectively bred.
	As a verb, one, clean with hard rubbing.
	Two, wash thoroughly.
	Three, postpone indefinitely or annul something that was scheduled.
	And as a noun, one, dense vegetation constructs.
	Wait!
	The act of cleaning a surface by rubbing it with a brush.
	No, I don't buy any of this.
	I don't buy any of this.
	He's a guy, he looks like a guy named Bill, Ben, or whatever it is.
	Hey, John and Adam, gotta catch up for the lost time on donations.
	Started listening six to seven years ago in...
	Hold on a second.
	Let's just stop right now.
	Nicholas, this sentence is no good.
	Started listening six to seven years ago in university.
	No.
	In the university, maybe.
	At university.
	At the university.
	He loves the show.
	I donated before and called out my buddy Joe as a douchebag and gave him a karma shot.
	That day he had a hypertension attack and was hospitalized.
	Did his Apple Watch warn him?
	I guess not.
	Be careful of this combination.
	It happens to be super effective, which means he was, call somebody out as a douchebag and then give him karma.
	He says it's apparently not a very healthy thing to do.
	So he wants a douchebag and karma at the same time?
	No, no, no.
	He said he's already done that in the previous show.
	Oh, okay.
	And then he had a hypertension attack and was hospitalized shortly thereafter.
	Oh, man.
	Wow, this is bad.
	Be careful as it appears to be super effective.
	Side note, please call out Joe and Court as douchebags.
	Douchebag!
	A scrub is a guy that thinks he's fly and is also known as a buster.
	Always talking about what he wants and just sits on his broke ass.
	That's a scrub.
	Okay, well now we know.
	He says, I love the show, keeps me sane on my 80-minute commute, and gives me insight into current events to really know about what's going on in the world.
	Cheers, Nick.
	So give him a karma, I guess.
	I'm happy to give him a karma, of course.
	You've got karma.
	He mentions that $312.42 Canadian equals $2,3456.
	Nice.
	So, there you go.
	$3,000 Canadian dollarettes.
	Dollarettes.
	Christopher Dolan in Brookline, Massachusetts.
	That's 222.22.
	Please give me a shot at karma and thanks for the best podcast in the universe.
	Okay, here we go.
	Thank you very much.
	You've got karma.
	Pretty sure that's Sir Christopher Dolan.
	Pretty sure.
	Pretty sure.
	Oh, yeah, maybe.
	I think it is Sir Christopher Dolan.
	Chris Richardson 222.22, which is an interesting coincidence.
	Random number theory right there.
	Chris Wilson hit me in the mouth a while back, and now he's subtly hinting that I give you some of my hard-earned moolah.
	So here you go.
	It's a little less than what I charge to shoe a horse.
	All around, but not by much.
	Does it cost 200 bucks to shoe a horse?
	Sure.
	No, probably 250.
	It's a lot of work.
	I have assisted many times in shoeing horses.
	I just thought it meant shoe, shoe, go away.
	No, that's a cheap shoe.
	But not by much.
	22222 sounds lovely when you say it out loud.
	Seriously, say it out loud or I'm cancelling the payment.
	22222.
	22222.
	Thanks for all the deconstruction you do mates.
	You haven't heard the last of me.
	And he sent a special jingle that he wants for his 22222.
	And he also calls himself Richardson the Farrier.
	Hmm, okay.
	Here he is.
	I like it when people send in their own donation jingle.
	Perfect.
	Okay, if you can do one as good as that.
	It was a good one, right?
	Anyone can do it if they think that.
	But it has to be at least that good.
	And Adam will...
	Hold on.
	I'll screen these so it either gets played or it doesn't.
	So if it gets played, it's a bonus.
	That concludes our group of well-wishers and super-producers, especially Tom.
	And we want to remind people we do another show coming up on Sunday, and it's short, a couple of days, and that means you usually get less income from those.
	But I will have a report from New York City, where I'll be broadcasting live from on Sunday.
	Going to a wedding or something.
	Well, not just a wedding or something.
	This is Cat Buckley.
	Who is daughter of Christopher Buckley, who was married to my niece, Lucy Gregg, who is the eldest daughter of Uncle Don.
	So it sounds like a very interesting event, so we hope to get some reports from you if we can.
	Dvorak.org slash NA is the place to go to help us out for the next show and help support what we're doing.
	That's right, I'll be hitting people in the mouth at a wedding in New York City.
	Why don't you do the same?
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Shut up, Blaine!
	Blaine!
	Shut up, slave!
	I don't know if you cut me off on purpose, but I did want to say, relate one little story about Buckley?
	Yeah, I cut you off, but I didn't think it was on purpose.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, it certainly moved the show along, thank you.
	Now, Christopher Buckley, who is the son of William F. Buckley Jr., Does he have a new book out?
	I think he had a book out about six.
	Christopher?
	Christopher, yeah.
	No, his dad is dead.
	That's William F., who, of course, is one of the original right-wingers, uber-conservatives in America, correct?
	Yes, yes.
	So it was 20 years ago.
	We're at Mead Road, which was what we called the homestead.
	We're at Mead Road where my grandparents were still there.
	And Don was there and everyone was there, including Lucy, who was then married to Christopher.
	And this is 20 years ago, and I'm talking about internet, and we're going to do all this cool stuff, and I'm like, America Online, that's just training wheels.
	That's just stupid.
	That's going to go away.
	And Christopher Buckley from the elite Buckley family says, really?
	It's nothing.
	That internet's not going to become anything.
	You think people are going to write on the internet?
	Maybe I'll still have AOL email.
	Maybe.
	And a lot of people heard this.
	He was taking me down big time.
	And I was a little...
	I was an MTV guy with some thoughts about the future, and he was, of course, an elite.
	And I remember Don several times since that has said, man, what a douche.
	So I can't wait to see him there.
	Hello, Christopher.
	What should I say?
	What would be the appropriate thing to say to this elite douche?
	How's your AOL account doing?
	I think you nailed it.
	laughs I don't think it's...
	I don't know.
	I would like something a little harsher, if possible.
	I don't know how harsh you'd want.
	How about just...
	Come on, champ.
	Show us how tough you are.
	Thank you.
	I'll use that one and let you know how it went.
	Yeah.
	Tough guy.
	Yeah, tough guy.
	All right.
	Oh, Brazil quickly.
	No, is it?
	Yes.
	No, is it Brazil?
	Yeah, Brazil.
	No, not Brazil.
	Here's one.
	Here's one for you.
	Okay.
	Play the South Sudan and then play a couple of Clooney clips.
	Okay.
	Being driven from their homeland in South Sudan out of sheer hunger.
	Farmer Aping Riyang and his family are being forced to flee north to neighboring Sudan as his home country sinks deeper into a famine.
	He is among tens of thousands leaving the country because of drought and a lack of food.
	I am leaving with anger and sadness because hunger is forcing me to leave my homeland.
	Your homeland is your homeland.
	If there was something to eat, I would not even think of leaving.
	These children are suffering from malnutrition.
	You've got something going on and you need a distraction called Clooney, called Clooney.
	George Clooney, George Clooney, George Clooney.
	It's a spy.
	Yes!
	As requested.
	So, how is the...
	What's Clooney up to?
	I mean, he's one of the guys who's created the state of South Sudan, from what I can tell.
	Clooney's not doing much.
	It's all about Amal.
	He's trying to make Amal happy and whatever her issues are.
	It's all Amal, Amal, Amal, Amal, Amal, Amal.
	All about Amal.
	This can't last.
	What?
	Wow.
	What...
	The nation's state had just got a new president.
	Hold on a second, let me see.
	In the Philippines, Rodrigo Duterte has declared victory in the presidential election and vowed to rewrite the Constitution.
	Duterte won the election despite periodically admitting to his role in death squads, joking about the gang rape of an Australian missionary, and pledging to kill tens of thousands of people.
	He's been dubbed the Filipino Trump.
	What?
	That's outrageous.
	It's really the last bit that really does it.
	And pledging to kill tens of thousands of people.
	He's been dubbed the Filipino Trump.
	Filipino stop compresses.
	Clip of the day.
	I don't know how I missed it.
	That's why there's two of us, darling.
	That's why there's two of us.
	I know it's your beat.
	I know it should be.
	Yeah, I got a bunch of stuff, too.
	I don't know how I missed that one.
	That's a gem.
	I mean, I'm surprised that Donald did somehow throw global warming in.
	There was a lot of that, of course.
	Well, she did have, since you brought it up, she did have kind of a segment about a created story.
	A number of them, actually.
	Let's play the setup...
	The end setup.
	These both need setups.
	This is a story about the protesters in Linde, or Linde in Washington, which they've described as a hotbed of Nazism.
	Oh!
	Washington State.
	Yes, okay.
	Washington State.
	So they had a big protest to block a bridge so nobody could go to the Trump rally.
	This is like their, let's keep anyone from listening to this guy's speak approach.
	And so they had some producer from Democracy Now!
	up there talking to people.
	And it's borderline idiotic to listen to it.
	But play this as the one, of the two clips I've got.
	Play this one.
	This is the one that doesn't have the...
	The second one is car passes.
	Play the one that's not car passes.
	Hi, my name is Thomas.
	I'm here to support folks that have been organizing here locally against fascism and Donald Trump.
	We're in Linden.
	This is a rural community near Bellingham, Washington.
	It's the northwest corner of the United States.
	It's a community where white supremacy has been rampant since it's been colonized.
	And we're particularly drawing attention to Linden because...
	Wait, stop, stop, stop, stop.
	Wait a minute.
	Are we confused?
	I thought Indiana was the racist place.
	No, no.
	Now it's Lyndon, Washington.
	And we're particularly drawing attention to Lyndon because here has been the center of Ku Klux Klan rallies and organizing for at least 100 years.
	No, that was Indiana.
	I don't understand how it can be Washington as well.
	And right now it's a hotbed for racism against farm workers.
	We're not gonna allow Donald Trump to come to our community and spread hate and try to encourage the detention or the terrorism towards people of color and undocumented persons.
	My name is Josefina Mora and so right now I have my arms in two tubes each side and on my right there's Nia and she is chained to a ladder and on my left there's Thomas and he's also chained to a ladder.
	So we're blocking about 80% of the street and so we also have a couple of vans that are blocking the road for the cars that are stopped.
	So we're getting pretty mixed reviews I guess.
	Mostly negative.
	Not surprising for Lyndon Washington.
	Not surprising for any place where you're blocking the road.
	My goodness.
	I'm getting negative reviews.
	Not surprising for Linden, Washington.
	They blocked the Bay Bridge recently, and there was...
	Negative reviews.
	I'm trying to get to the city.
	I don't need to...
	But you're misunderstanding, John.
	What she's talking about...
	Now, these are all...
	This is a career now for these kids.
	They have an app, and then they check in for a job.
	Okay, the job consists of you chaining yourself to others and being strung across the road.
	And then you get feedback from the users.
	And so she probably got a one-star rating instead of a five on the app because it was just not really a good thing.
	It could be.
	Now you mention it.
	I'm thinking a bad attitude.
	I'm thinking that's a great app is what I'm thinking.
	So the next thing, the next report, which is the passing car, is just another classic example of, oh, blame everything on Trump.
	This could have been a setup.
	They could have done this themselves.
	There's a million possibilities.
	But now, somehow, even though they're at the bridge, which is a distance from where the Trump rally was, because you could have walked there otherwise, They see this.
	They make an observation.
	They see this car go by.
	They assume that it's from the Trump rally.
	I don't know that it is.
	Nobody does.
	They don't do any reporting on it.
	But just listen to the way it's presented.
	So, um, and passing us now is one of the cars leaving the Trump rally.
	It has a very big Confederate flag displayed on top of it.
	This will be!
	This will be!
	Hate free land!
	Hate free land!
	This will be!
	This will be!
	Hate free land!
	So they were Bernie people.
	Yes, exactly.
	And the guy with the Confederate flag was probably some stooge from the Bernie campaign.
	This is all dirty tricks.
	I mean, the best example of that was another report from Democracy Now!
	And it just seems to me to be...
	This looked like a dirty trick from the get-go.
	And it involves some guy who is...
	Just play this report.
	Donald Trump and a white nationalist.
	Hold on.
	I gotta get the right one.
	Yeah, I saw this.
	Well, Donald Trump's campaign is facing criticism after it named a prominent white supremacist leader to its list of delegates in California.
	William Johnson is the head of the American Freedom Party, which aims to preserve, quote,"...the customs and heritage of the European American people," unquote.
	Over the years, he's advocated for the creation of a white state and the deportation of almost all non-white citizens from the United States.
	Johnson's name appeared on a list of delegates published by California's Secretary of State Monday.
	After Mother Jones broke the story on Tuesday, the Trump campaign blamed Johnson's selection on a, quote, database error and removed him.
	The correspondence published by Mother Jones shows that Trump...
	Stop right there.
	Glitch!
	Don't forget this little element in the story.
	They removed him.
	They found out who he was.
	They removed him.
	The story is now, as far as I'm concerned, over.
	Over.
	But...
	It's a dirty trick.
	I didn't even know this.
	I didn't even know that he was removed.
	The guy's name is William Johnson.
	There's like a thousand of these folks, but they're going to play this up anyway.
	They dropped him from the list, but let's hell with that.
	It's published.
	you know, we've got to blast this operation as much as we can.
	So let's just start piling on to nothing.
	But let's continue.
	And removed him.
	But correspondence published by Mother Jones shows the Trump campaign was in touch with Johnson as recently as Monday.
	The Southern Poverty Law Center has described Johnson's American Freedom Party as arguably the most important white nationalist.
	How did they get that?
	How did they get that correspondence?
	Because that sounds like they're looking at something in a database.
	Hold on.
	It's a dirty trick.
	I just want to hear.
	I just want to hear.
	Povity Law Center has described Johnson's American Freedom Party as arguably the most important white nationalist group in the country.
	Earlier this year, Johnson's Super PAC funded a pro-Trump robocall to voters.
	The American National Super PAC makes this call to support Donald Trump.
	I am William Johnson, a farmer and white nationalist.
	The white race is dying out in America and Europe because we are afraid to be called racist.
	This is our mindset.
	It's okay that our government destroys our children's future, but don't call me racist.
	I am afraid to be called racist.
	It's okay to give away our country through immigration, but don't call me racist.
	It's okay that few schools anymore have beautiful white children as a majority, but don't call me racist.
	Gradual genocide against the white race is okay, but don't call me racist.
	I'm afraid to be called racist.
	Donald Trump is not a racist, but Donald Trump is not afraid.
	Don't vote for a Cuban.
	Vote for Donald Trump.
	213-718-3908.
	This call is not authorized by Donald Trump.
	I love the don't vote for a Cuban.
	Hey man, don't vote for the Cuban.
	One question now.
	Before you go further, I just want to ask you one question.
	Is it not the ugly side of democracy, even though we have a republic, but we adhere to democratic values, is it not the ugly side, quote-unquote, of democracy that everybody gets to vote?
	And whether you're a voter, a delegate, whatever, but that should reflect all values of the country.
	And it should also reflect the racist.
	It should reflect the crazy people.
	It should reflect, you know, tinfoil hat wearers.
	You cannot say you're not allowed to participate because you're a racist.
	Or am I missing something?
	Isn't that just, unfortunately, how democracy works?
	And mob rule...
	You also have the right to bitch and moan about guys like this.
	Of course!
	Of course!
	Well, okay, good point.
	You make a fair point.
	But he was removed, but he was removed from...
	The loaning part is the best part of the whole thing, of course, because that's what we like to handle.
	Of course it is.
	Now, this character put out some robocall big deal.
	Then somehow they got a hold of it.
	I don't know how that happened because I'd never heard of it.
	This was some while ago because it was talking about Ted Cruz who's not even in the race anymore.
	So it's got nothing to do with what currently happened.
	But that's okay.
	And then the guy disclaims any connection with Trump.
	But, of course, that's not pointed out.
	So the guy's just some, you know, anyone can randomly do this.
	I mean, the Koch brothers are, they don't like Trump either.
	So I don't know why nobody mentions that more often.
	They are almost at the point where they said they support Hillary.
	And she refuses to accept their support.
	But she couldn't do anything about robocalls if they started doing them.
	I'm Charles Koch.
	I love Hillary.
	That will not go wrong.
	It could happen.
	And so they go on and on with this.
	By the way, they could do that if they wanted.
	They could do it if they wanted.
	The whole thing is bullcrap.
	But let's go to part two.
	Yes.
	And there's a couple of elements I want you to pay attention to.
	One is that the Southern Poverty Law Center says it's one of the most important, one of the most important organizations, this crazy political party.
	I want you to pay attention to how many people are in this party.
	Why is it the most important?
	And please note that the Southern Poverty Law Center holds almost half a billion dollars in assets from donations.
	They're not just some little organization that is in poverty in the South.
	We're like, oh, we've investigated.
	They are a big-ass PR arm of donations.
	Elite.
	I don't even know if they care which party they work for.
	Of the liberal elite.
	Probably the liberal elite, yeah.
	All right, part two.
	So talk more about who he is, how well-known he is, and what exactly the conversations that you understand.
	Oh, man, what a good one.
	Got to roll that back.
	She did a whole conversation.
	Did you hear it?
	Oh, yeah.
	It was a good one, conversation.
	What exactly the conversations...
	She said it like this.
	The conversation?
	And what exactly?
	The conversation.
	She's the poster child now for the conversation.
	And what exactly, the conversations that you understand, what the communication has been with the Trump campaign?
	Sure.
	So, he leads the American Freedom Party.
	What?
	It's a political party, a white nationalist political party.
	You know, it probably has just a few thousand members at most.
	Wait a minute.
	Stop!
	It has a few thousand.
	Two thousand, three thousand members, and it's important at all?
	Very important, yes.
	Very important, John.
	It's the most important, according to Southern Poverty.
	It's got three thousand members.
	Oh my God, what are we going to do?
	It probably has just a few thousand members at most.
	They've never successfully elected a candidate.
	Wait a minute.
	First he says it's very important, then he talks with disdain?
	Hold on.
	It probably has just a few thousand.
	I'm going to roll back.
	Here we go.
	Nationalist political party.
	One more.
	This is the guy from Mother Jones who wrote the story, and as soon as he asks any question, he starts off with, sure.
	Oh, God.
	And does he do right at the end?
	Because that's the way to do it.
	Sure, we can talk about how we're not making any money yet, but we're going to go into a direct-to-consumer play, right?
	Sure.
	It's a political party, a white nationalist political party.
	It probably has just a few thousand members at most.
	They've never successfully elected a candidate.
	Yet, as you mentioned, they are arguably the most important white nationalist group in the country because of the people involved.
	They're sort of like the brain trust for the white nationalist movement, such as it is.
	And some of their members are sort of intellectual...
	Whether, you know, there's a former California state professor, there's a former Reagan appointee on their board of directors.
	And, you know, they talk about—they don't consider themselves to be white supremacists.
	They argue that they don't claim that the white race is superior to other races, but they do want America to be a separate white ethnostate.
	So they would like to kick out the non-whites from America.
	Last year...
	Is that true?
	Do we know if that's true?
	Have they actually said that?
	I find that...
	Hard to believe.
	It's...
	I think it is true.
	I think this guy, Johnson.
	William.
	Don't call me Ray J. I think he said things to that effect.
	This is a drinking club, if it's anything.
	Yeah, 3,000 members.
	During an interview.
	There's barely a podcast audience.
	Seriously.
	WFMZ in Pennsylvania.
	William Johnson openly called for the formation of a white state.
	This is what he said.
	We're seeing now a dispossession of the majority in this country.
	And it's not just through illegal immigration.
	It's through legal immigration.
	What we're happening now is that America is being replaced by other peoples.
	And a group of people should not willingly open up their borders and allow other people to take it over.
	And what has happened is the last 50 years, there's been a relentless onslaught of propaganda.
	Anti-white propaganda.
	If you stand up and say, I want to preserve this country for our own people, you're called a racist.
	And as a result of that, every aspect of our society has gone downhill.
	And we have to address that issue.
	From your perspective, would you close the borders entirely?
	Is that what you said?
	Well, even if you close the borders entirely, it is not going to correct the system.
	If you look at the demographics now, that the white children are the vast minority in the school districts everywhere in the United States.
	We need to look at it a whole different way.
	We need to create a separate white ethno-state.
	This diversity is a failure.
	That is William Johnson speaking on WFMZ in Pennsylvania.
	Josh Harkinson.
	Talk more about...
	I mean, this is a person who's extremely well-known.
	This isn't someone that you had to research their background to figure anything out about.
	Oh, gee.
	This guy is extremely well-known.
	They're very influential.
	By the way, there is already a white state.
	It's called Idaho.
	Extremely well-known.
	I thought it was Wyoming.
	This bullcrap.
	I've never heard of this guy.
	No.
	What does she mean by extremely well-known?
	I think they're on the wrong track, though, because that's not what everyone's focusing on.
	Of course, the Stop Trump media movement is still going.
	It's all about the taxes now, which is going to...
	It's just not going to go anywhere, because I think the Trump supporters think...
	They probably think similarly, like, hey, come on, man.
	We all want to fuck the taxes, and so Trump's better at it.
	Maybe he'll show us how to do it.
	I don't know, but I just don't see it really gaining any traction, but it's...
	He responds poorly to that, so that's...
	That's kind of good.
	Jeff Daniels came out.
	Now, Jeff Daniels, of course, he is extremely well-known and is a newsman, a serious newsman.
	We all know this.
	He's a serious newsman from, what was it called?
	News Studio?
	News Day?
	News Night?
	Yeah, whatever.
	Not News Night, but it was a show that was supposedly an accurate portrayal of a newsroom that CNN might perhaps have.
	It's all bullcrap.
	I've been in plenty of newsrooms.
	So they're rolling him out.
	Does it make sense for him to come out?
	Well, he's also a very well-known liberal representative.
	Oh, yeah.
	And he's kind of a cock.
	I mean, look at anything that Trump's done.
	It plays into hatred.
	It plays into what's the worst possible thing we can create and then fan that flame.
	And that's why you've got racism and bigotry and make America white again.
	That's what it should say.
	That's what it should say.
	And he knows that.
	He's playing to me.
	And he knows that.
	That's even better.
	Whether he can take it all the way to November or not, you know, you want to say no.
	But where is he tripped up yet?
	But, you know, I look at the stats and hope...
	He looks at the stats, what, from 538, from Nate Silver?
	To hell, everyone who doesn't want him to be president shows up and votes.
	And I just...
	It's not just the President of the United States, it's the President of the world.
	Now, this has got to stop.
	I hear this a lot from my Obama bot friends, and I call them on it.
	Then I say, you sound like a Republican.
	When you say that.
	He's the president of the world?
	How very dare you?
	That is a horrible thing.
	I've never noticed this.
	It's always said to be the president of the United States of America, but we all know that's really the president of the world.
	I guarantee you can find a million clips.
	I'm going to put together a montage.
	Yeah, the president of the world.
	I'm embarrassed.
	Talk about being arrogant.
	Yeah, let me tell you.
	To make these sorts of assumptions.
	I was in Europe.
	Especially coming from the Democrat side.
	They're the ones who keep talking about partnership.
	I was in the European Union just recently.
	People are not...
	This is another one.
	The world is laughing at us!
	No.
	The world is not laughing at us.
	People are worried.
	They're scared because they've been fear-mongering into believing, as my Moroccan Uber driver in Paris said, Donald Trump wants to start World War III and kill all Muslims.
	They're not laughing!
	But when you say, you know, really, our president is the president of the world, then they're laughing.
	And that, you make us look like idiots.
	Jeff Douchebag Daniels.
	It's not just the president of the United States, it's the president of the world.
	And like Hillary or not, and I do, she's got international street cred.
	No, she's so gangster.
	It's a dangerous world.
	And I like that she's been around it several times, certainly as Secretary of State and her whole history.
	And the fact that, again, like him or not, Bill Clinton is available as a sounding board.
	Just internationally, I feel safer that way.
	Okay.
	What Jeff doesn't know is that Bill is about to go into the hospital.
	He doesn't know that, does he?
	No, I don't know that either.
	Oh yeah, of course.
	Because Donald Trump is attacking Hillary Clinton on being an enabler and being evil on women and is bringing up Bill Clinton's past and their marriage.
	And the only, only, only thing she can do, and I judge her by the character she has portrayed to me publicly in the past decades, is to send Bill into the hospital so that any attack regarding Bill would be seen as a very low blow.
	Yes, you can't do that.
	Cannot do that.
	It's not time for him to die yet, but there he will rest in purgatory.
	In Hillary purgatory.
	And she will sit on her throne when it's time, depending on how close the race is.
	Thumbs up or thumbs down for Bill.
	They will have a picture of Bill.
	Probably on the cover of one of the tabloids.
	And it will have him with one of those oxygen masks on.
	Yeah, in a tent.
	Oxygen tent.
	I don't think they'll go that far.
	How about a hyperbaric chamber?
	But it'll be a shot, a bed shot.
	He'll look like hell, which he does anyway.
	And they'll have the oxygen mask on and they'll say, Bill, close to death!
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Trump, low blow!
	Trump will have trouble beating Hillary if Bill is either in the hospital or dead.
	Yes.
	Because you can't speak ill of the dead.
	What's he going to do?
	Hillary's going to get a lot of sympathy.
	Now, I've talked to people about this.
	Before you go in, yes, I want you to say, this has been our theory for years that this would happen.
	Years.
	This is not something we picked up on 4chan or Reddit, you a-holes.
	Yeah, we started this, I think, maybe four years ago when it was apparent that Hillary was going to run.
	And we outlined it.
	It's in the red book.
	It's going to be during the primaries.
	It was debatable.
	The two of us had debated the timing of it.
	And that's the only thing that we varied on this.
	I brought this up with friends of mine every so often, and they say, oh, won't that make Hillary look bad, you know, because she's going to be the grieving widow?
	How is the grieving widow ever going to look bad?
	A lot of people don't seem to understand how this works.
	But Hillary, if Bill dies, and it would probably be...
	Something she'd want anyway.
	She doesn't want Bill Bick in the White House.
	She wants to be the boss.
	Uh-huh.
	Uh-huh.
	So she doesn't want him in there anyway.
	You know, go stay in your place.
	No, of course not.
	No.
	No.
	And Bill, he's almost one of these guys who thinks he can take it with him.
	So I still have the Clinton Foundation.
	You have to throw him gone, you know.
	Yeah.
	When I'm gone, I'll still have it.
	So, dead or not, we don't know, but I would say time for him to go into the hospital.
	But that also depends a bit on the email thing, and if that ever comes out.
	But I have two other quickies.
	A well-published thing, was it New York Magazine, regarding...
	Ben Rhodes was talking about, and laughing in the interview, about how easy it was to deceive the American public with speeches that the President would give.
	Which has caught a little bit of fire here and there.
	People are talking about it a little bit.
	But I think for people just looking at mainstream for a little bit of background, they're not going to find it.
	But Charlie Rose had a couple of Obama speechwriters on.
	Who, of course, wrote speeches for all of the catchphrases, what they do.
	The president is a great delivery mechanism.
	He can deliver a joke.
	He can deliver a tear.
	He's fantastic.
	This president is one of the best.
	Yeah, I agree.
	One of the best.
	Just fantastic.
	But listen to the hubris of these a-holes.
	But my point is that you have equal impact on serious speeches because it's about style, use of language, etc.
	I really like...
	I was very...
	The joke speech is the most fun part of this, but the things I'm the most proud of were the more serious speeches, I think.
	Healthcare, economic speeches, and I think...
	Lovett wrote the line about, if you like your insurance, you can keep it.
	it.
	So somebody wrote that line and it probably was this guy.
	His buddy throws him under the bus.
	Hey, you wrote that line.
	Somebody wrote it.
	What was this that you picked up?
	Where is this?
	Charlie Rose.
	The Charlie Rose show.
	There's a whole...
	Yeah, you should really listen to it.
	It's sickening just to hear these douches.
	And then Trump called in to, I think it was Chris Cuomo's show.
	He's good friends with him.
	Baldo Cuomo pretends to put up a fight.
	I think Trump boned his mom or something.
	He keeps talking about his mom.
	But when I read this in Paris, and I read, oh, Trump is crazy.
	He wants to shortchange the investors in the United States the full faith and credit.
	Krugman wrote about it in the New York Times.
	Everybody was writing about how dare he, how dare Donald Trump even suggest that we would default on our loans, meaning treasury bonds, that we wouldn't pay them back 100%.
	How dare he?
	Everyone was outraged.
	I heard what he said, and he clarified it, and to me, it seemed like a pretty simple thing that he said, which was not that crazy.
	I said if we can buy back government debt at a discount, in other words, if interest rates go up and we can buy bonds back at a discount, if we are liquid enough as a country, we should do that.
	In other words, we can buy back debt at a discount.
	Isn't that a very normal suggestion?
	If the rates go up, then we will be able to buy back at a discount?
	I saw some of this thing with Cuomo, but I didn't notice that.
	That was a good, yes, you're exactly right, but I'm going to relate something.
	This is, he's 70, and he was raised, obviously, during the period, my dad used to always say this.
	He said, well, you know, they always want to keep it, you want to have a controlled inflation that was a certain amount, and he says, if you really get into trouble, you want to crank it way up, because that makes money cheap, so you can buy back debt.
	Mm-hmm.
	At a discount.
	If the interest rate goes to 20%, then everything's falling in terms of the value of the dollar, and that's when you buy.
	You buy your bonds back, you buy all your stuff back at a discount.
	So you can buy back the entire United States debt.
	Yeah, at a discount.
	Yeah, a huge discount if you do this right.
	The way it is now is just the opposite.
	You've got a deflationary thing.
	The money's worth more.
	So if you start buying the bonds now, you're getting gypped.
	So that's, yeah, it's a very common approach.
	But that's a traditional approach that came out during the Roosevelt administration, that kind of thinking.
	And it is not radical.
	No, it's very common thinking, actually.
	And in fact, Trump says the second half of that strategy he mentions in the rest of this interview.
	People said, I want to go and buy debt and default on debt.
	I mean, these people are crazy.
	This is the United States government.
	First of all, you never have to default because you print the money.
	There you go.
	See, he understands the system.
	We'll buy it, we'll print up some money, we'll buy it back.
	It's that simple.
	I can tell you, okay?
	So there's never a default.
	But the point is, it was reported in the New York Times, incorrectly.
	You said you would go to creditors and make them take less.
	It was reported in the failing New York Times and other places that I want to default on debt.
	You know, I'm the king of debt.
	I understand debt better than probably anybody.
	I know how to deal with debt.
	I'm pretty sure no one can argue that he's the king of debt.
	Not the only king, but yeah, he's big on the debt.
	Well, I love debt, but, you know, it's dangerous.
	You have to be careful, and you have to know what you're doing.
	But let me just tell you, if there's a chance to buy back debt at a discount, in other words, interest rates go up, and the bonds go down, and you can buy debt.
	That's what I'm talking about.
	People had it, the Times, and others wrote, oh, Trump wants to...
	Go and see creditors and buy debt at a discount.
	Now, there could even be a time when somebody comes in, but with the government, they're never going to walk in and say, do me a favor, would you buy my debt at a discount?
	In business, that happens all the time.
	I bought mortgages back when the market went bad.
	I bought mortgages back at tremendous discounts, and I love doing that.
	I mean, there's nothing like it.
	Actually, it gives me a great thrill.
	It gives me a great thrill.
	I get so turned on by buying distressed mortgages.
	My God, I'm rock hard.
	But in the United States with bonds, that won't happen because, you know, in theory, the market doesn't go down so that you default on debt.
	And that's what happens.
	So here's the story.
	Just to have it corrected.
	If we have an opportunity where interest rates go up and you can buy debt back at a discount, I always like to be able to do that if you can do it.
	But that's all I was talking about.
	They have it like, I'm going to go back to creditors.
	Yes, that's what they're reporting.
	And I'm going to renegotiate a restructure debt.
	It's ridiculous.
	They know it's ridiculous, but they print it out wrong purposely.
	I think the New York Times should print a retraction.
	Yeah, they will on page 17.
	Yeah.
	Listen, that was a good clip.
	Yeah.
	Hey, I did a lot of research into Zika and DDT since we picked up on a few clues from Fauci.
	From Centers and Disease...
	Sorry?
	Brolf.
	I always forget I need to play that clip.
	He is the guy who first came to our attention, not because of his prowess in vaccinations, but...
	Good to be here, Brolf.
	That was really the reason that he caught our attention.
	It was like the universe was signaling us, watch this guy.
	So I think I kind of know where this is going.
	It appears that, then if I go back in history, in 2006, the World Health Organization said, DDT is okay again to be used because we have a crisis with malaria.
	And this is before we started the show, so we weren't really reporting on it, although DDT has come up many times in the history of this podcast.
	So, And it is a surefire way to get rid of mosquitoes.
	And it works incredibly well.
	Just some of the details, there was even a, back in the day, when this was used everywhere, certainly by the military, it saved a lot of people from dying of malaria.
	There were investigative journalists who really investigated the claims of DDT and were eating a full tablespoon of DDT for breakfast every single morning to see if it would affect them or not.
	And this is a very important case because it really came to light...
	This is before the EPA had been created, the Environmental Protection Agency.
	And it came to light in the United States mainly through a book...
	A book called Silent Spring, which was written by Rachel Carson.
	And I have a little clip here of her reading a little passage from her book.
	Now, I did not read the whole thing, but I got the book and I just read as much as I could.
	I'll tell you this, because it's one of my Arrow books.
	It was a huge, huge, huge, huge blockbuster.
	Yes.
	But it was more prose than scientific.
	It was really kind of, you know, it was about...
	We're all going to die.
	It's the original all going to die.
	It wasn't we're all going to die.
	But here's how it sounded.
	A few minutes' research in any supermarket is enough to alarm the most stout-hearted customer.
	If a huge skull and crossbones were suspended above the insecticide department, the customer might at least enter it with the respect normally accorded to deaf-dealing materials.
	We spray our elms, and the following springs are silent of robin song.
	Not because we sprayed the robins directly, but because the poison traveled step by step through the now familiar elm-leaf-earthworm-robin cycle.
	These are matters...
	The very familiar elm-leaf-earthworm-robin cycle.
	Yes, very familiar.
	...a record, observable, part of the visible world around us.
	They reflect the web of life or death that scientists know as ecology.
	Hmm, there you go.
	It's ecology.
	We're all gonna die!
	Okay.
	Now, from this book, what we learned first and foremost, and where the science went, was the thickness of condor eggshells.
	That was pelican.
	I looked it all up, it was condor.
	Okay.
	Which is even rarer than...
	But it could later have also turned to pelicans, because this was not a scientific decision.
	It was a political decision.
	And for many years since then, the pro-DDT group has been saying, and I think with some validity, ever since DDT was outlawed, millions of people have died needlessly.
	And, of course, there was an incredible increase in malaria and other mosquito-borne disease deaths, certainly in Africa, after DDT was outlawed.
	Now, it's not that they couldn't use it, but the USAID has a specific regulation that they are not allowed to finance or send DDT directly.
	There are some other possible issues.
	The half-life of DDT is years.
	It lasts a very long time.
	And of course, there's been lots of fear-mongering over the years about deformities, people dying.
	I even got a couple notes from some of our producers who said, oh yeah, but I know people who were maimed by DDT. But scientifically, there's no proven evidence reproducible, to my knowledge, and I've done quite a lot of research on the topic.
	But what happened is this created the Environmental Protection Agency.
	That it came out of this book, came out of this conversation, and therefore just kind of the ground zero of the Green Movement.
	So for Fauci, in the previous episode we brought him up, and this is what we think he was alluding to, and I think you'll hear it here again, to bring back DDT, which pretty much is still used all over the world.
	India has, they still manufacture and use it.
	Many countries around the world use it.
	It's still in multiple products, even DDE, which is kind of a byproduct, is also in many products, but not in the United States, where it is outlawed.
	And of course, again, USAID can't give any money to poor countries if it's going to purchase DDT.
	So here's Fauci on NPR talking about Zika, of course, and funding it.
	And in this, he confirms a couple of things.
	He confirms that the money needs to come from the Ebola fund.
	It's $1.9 billion.
	He's not completely straight about it because we know that at least half a billion of this has to come from the United Kingdom.
	It's pledged money.
	Hello, Silicon Valley, friends of Silicon Valley, $25 million you pledged, you douchebags.
	And also about what I think is going to be the solution to the problem-reaction solution.
	Problem, which I believe will be created, conversation about DDT. Bring it back.
	No, we can't.
	Bring it back.
	No, we can't.
	It's going to kill everybody.
	Save the children.
	Then it'll be, ah, but we have the vaccine.
	The only question is who will have it.
	There is no treatment for this virus.
	This particular disease is generally a rather mild disease.
	It's characterized by rash, by fever, by aches and pains, and by some inflammation of the eyes.
	And then it generally goes away in several days to a week.
	However, if you are a pregnant woman and you get infected during pregnancy, you could have dire consequences for the fetus.
	And that's really what this is all about.
	It's about protecting pregnant women.
	Given that so far no funding...
	This is, by the way, that's kind of the first time we've heard anyone say that.
	This is only about protecting pregnant women.
	Okay.
	Who I guess we're going to give a vaccine.
	Sounds like a really good idea.
	What this is all about.
	It's about protecting pregnant women.
	Given that so far no funding has been allocated to stem the possible spread of the Zika virus, what is the situation?
	I mean, what is being done or not being done because of that?
	Well, we are moving ahead.
	We cannot wait.
	This is a serious situation as we enter the robust mosquito season in the next couple of months.
	So we could not wait to get the money appropriated.
	We had to move money from other very important areas to be able to start work on Zika.
	Now, that can only take you so far.
	We have to go backfill that money that we essentially mortgaged out of other areas.
	Money!
	To get this situation going.
	And the only way we can continue to sustain the effort is to get that money that the president has asked for.
	Well, what do you think Congress is going to do about this, especially if there are areas of the country where constituents are unconcerned?
	Well, I think that everyone realizes that we do need the resources.
	What we're seeing now is a disagreement about how those resources are going to get allocated in the sense of emergency versus appropriation, moving money from Ebola accounts.
	There's a lot of discussion back and forth, but I do hope that we very soon get the resources that we need.
	I think what's happening is that all these countries and philanthropic clubs, like the Silicon Valley Club, they're all going, hey, wait a minute.
	Yeah, we pledged Ebola, but Ebola's over.
	Yeah, this is like giving blood to the, you know, you had a disaster nearby and you go give blood to the Red Cross, you give blood to the blood bank.
	Yeah, and they sell it to somebody else.
	And they already say, yeah, we don't need any more blood for this, so we're going to take your blood anyway and put it in the storage and give it to somebody else.
	Or we want to donate to Haiti.
	Yeah.
	The Bush-Clinton phony baloney deal.
	You give your money to supposedly go to Haiti.
	You don't give your blankets.
	Give your money to give them the money.
	They don't spend the money in Haiti.
	Ah, we got other things to do with it.
	Red Cross is well known.
	If I'm giving my money to a specific thing, I want it to go to that specific thing.
	Right.
	So that's why people are reneging.
	But everyone was all ramped up because, look, people were ready to make a vaccine no matter what.
	We don't care what it is.
	But you can't make us stop, though.
	We need our vaccine money.
	We need our research money.
	Hey, we're all set up here.
	We need this money.
	Hello?
	We're an NGO! It's just a ruse.
	There's one other little thing that I know we take it into consideration, but it's good when you hear it.
	In Brazil, the finishing touches are being put on Olympic venues to make them ready for their August 5th debut.
	But Brazil has some other things going on.
	A recession, political chaos, high crime, and the spreading Zika virus.
	So there may be a lot of open seats in those new venues when the games roll around.
	Catherine Osborne reports from Rio.
	If the Olympics were held today, the bleachers would be very empty.
	Only about 50% of Olympic tickets and 15% of Paralympic tickets have been sold.
	That's under half of what London had sold at this point before its 2012 Olympics.
	More worryingly for organizers, international ticket sales have also been weak.
	Blame Zika.
	The mosquito-borne virus has been tied to birth defects in newborns, and health authorities have advised pregnant women not to go to the games.
	All this may mean that Brazil is stuck with a lot of venues and little to show for it.
	Now, was this the meeting that Bill Clinton was at or the one that President Obama flew into that we lost?
	A couple of things we have to note.
	I don't remember Obama going down there, but a couple of things we have to note.
	One, the Zika virus, if I'm not mistaken, the outbreak was up north.
	Yeah.
	And Brazil is a massive country.
	It's huge.
	Huge.
	Huge.
	It's massive.
	And it's like even, you know, it's like you see this happen.
	You live in California, which is a large state, and something will happen in Brazil.
	Sacramento, California, the big fire.
	And people will say, hey, you're in California.
	Is the fire affecting you?
	No, the fire's 90 miles away, which is a long way.
	Or it could be in Chicago.
	You're an American.
	You've heard the fires.
	Are you okay?
	Just so you know, this was President Obama, and they wanted it to be in Chicago, and you remember he went to Chicago, and they made a big deal about this, a big deal, and he lost, he did not help win the deal.
	We have talked about this before, and with some suspicion that maybe the United States is behind this whole thing.
	Yeah, hey, hey, Brazil.
	Why did you get the Olympics?
	You guys are broke.
	Chicago.
	It would have been perfect.
	He could have been the queen of the ball in Chicago.
	He did his lousy sales job, so they didn't get it.
	They didn't pay off this committee.
	The Olympic Committee is a corrupt operation.
	I think that's pretty clear.
	I don't know that there's any Zika in Rio.
	But that is irrelevant.
	They never mention this.
	If you went on the street and did one of those Jimmy Kimmel or Fallon or whatever man on the street things, you'd be saying, Brio?
	And where's Zika?
	Zika was found where?
	I think it's up north.
	People wouldn't know.
	North of Fortaleza, it's up there.
	I didn't know.
	By the equator, it's not really near.
	This is nowhere near Rio.
	I mean, unless somebody could say, well, yeah, there's cases in Rio.
	Yeah, but mosquitoes can fly.
	Yeah, mosquitoes can fly.
	As far as, it has to be blown a long way.
	I mean, I don't know that in Sacramento, when it's only 90 miles away, Sacramento mosquitoes that get blown down here, it doesn't happen.
	These are localized phenomenons.
	Anyway, yeah.
	I don't know.
	I've not heard anything that Rio or Sao Paulo, any of those Brazilian...
	Well, you just heard NPR link Zika to the Olympics, so that is what we can look forward to.
	That would be the idea.
	And we'll get a vaccine.
	Novartis, maybe.
	I mean, it's a very simple process, and I don't believe it's out of patent, of course.
	So I think anybody can manufacture this.
	Dow Chemical couldn't manufacture, Merck.
	But the Indian guys, they're already manufacturing.
	But DDT, the whole discussion and how the EPA was formed out of it in general is interesting history.
	It really is.
	There was another thing that came out from the CDC, or it was removed from the web, but there's an archive page.
	And it's from 1960.
	And here it is.
	I have a copy, which is on the Wayback Machine, from the CDC. Cancer, Simeon Virus 40, SV40, and Polio Vaccine Fact Sheet.
	Then it has, you know, SV40 is a virus found in some species of monkey.
	SV40 was discovered in 1960.
	Soon afterward, the virus was found in polio vaccine.
	More than 98 million Americans received one or more doses of polio vaccine from 1955 to 1963 when a proportion of vaccine was contaminated with SV40. It has been estimated that 10 to 30 million Americans could have received an SV40 contaminated dose of vaccine.
	SV40 virus has been found in certain types of cancer in humans, but it has not been determined that SV40 causes these cancers.
	But this is now something that was published and then taken down.
	So the Seedman version is, I told you there's cancer virus in the vaccines!
	That would be the Seedman version.
	But concerning...
	I was born in 64, so I fall outside of the bracket.
	Yeah.
	I remember the sugar cubes and the...
	How these things get contaminated is a better question.
	Yeah.
	Well, that is the question.
	It doesn't say.
	It doesn't say.
	Hmm.
	So, anyway.
	Sorry to put a downer on everybody born before 1963.
	Yeah, well, that's a lot of people.
	I think they've been trying to kill off that group.
	War babies.
	That would be you, my friend.
	They've been trying to kill off that group with no effect.
	Have been trying to kill you off, my friend?
	Oh, yeah.
	Vietnam War, draft year, there's one thing after another.
	And it's mostly the Democrats.
	They're constantly trying to kill off the babies.
	Yeah, and now they're giving you euthanasia.
	They really want to get rid of you guys early.
	It's too late.
	I'm going to show myself all by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	I think we can deploy the same Clinton trick.
	John has an oxygen mask now.
	Oxygen mask.
	Those are cheap, by the way.
	Yeah, I'm one of those.
	So, donate.
	We need help.
	Well, we do need help, but let's start with Sir Gavin of St.
	George who donated.
	One, two, three, four, five in Sydney, Australia.
	ITM, Guardians of Reality, you guys are seriously funny.
	Talking about the clip show, obviously.
	Yes.
	I could not donate after listening to your clip show.
	It had me in stitches at work.
	Please keep up the outstanding, astounding, he says, astounding work.
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	George.
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	Edward Herrera in Austin, Texas also writes I'm mailing a quick note with this donation just for your information.
	No time to read it.
	Thanks.
	Was that it?
	That was it.
	Ryan Actually, I think I have his notes somewhere.
	I will read these notes occasionally on the show in the general segment.
	Ryan Persicilli.
	Persicilli, I betcha.
	Persicilli.
	Well, Persicilli, I don't know.
	Trenton, New Jersey, 8008.
	Boobs!
	Oh, and he says, is there a full log of the shows?
	Yes, noagendanation.com and click on the archive button.
	Every single...
	MP3 1 through 824 with all the.5s and the clip shows all in there.
	Yeah, it's all in there.
	Including, yeah, the.5s, which are the educational shows.
	Okay.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	Don't move.
	That was boobs.
	It was indeed.
	I'm not a big fan, but Richard Chow in Fullerton, California, 6969.
	Andrew, this is a boot donation.
	No, you missed the Chris Wilson.
	I'm sorry, you missed Chris Wilson.
	Chris Wilson had 8007.
	Yeah, there he is.
	Chris Wilson with a very long note.
	8007 in Australia.
	Oh, he's in Australia?
	Hold on a second.
	I got some...
	Cheers, bloke.
	I got some little clips.
	He calls it the penal colony.
	Good on you, mate.
	Good on you, mate.
	Cheers, bloke.
	Good on you, mate.
	Thanks for that, Cobber.
	Hey, Cobber, thanks for that.
	Hey, lick my Cobber.
	Anytime you want.
	I have gotten more notes from Australians.
	Decrying your Australian accent, by the way.
	That's why they sent me these things to listen to.
	And what do they say?
	Adam's a douchebag because he does like a Crocodile Dundee version?
	No, no one's ever said it.
	No one's ever called you a douchebag for doing it.
	Decry.
	You said decry.
	Yeah, they bitch.
	Well, I'm just trying to...
	This is exactly how I do it.
	Good on you, bloke.
	Cheers, bloke.
	Cheers, bloke.
	Good on you, mate.
	Sounds good.
	Good on you, mate.
	Get on you, mate.
	Thanks for being a cobber.
	Thanks for that, cobber.
	Thanks for that, cobber.
	All right, cobber.
	Hey, that's quite a cobber you got there.
	As now as you veer off, I think is the complaint.
	I don't know what Cobber is.
	Andrew Gusek in Greensboro, North Carolina, NC4AG. Now we missed Richard Chow.
	I know I said Richard Chow before you called me out.
	Richard Chow and Fullerton, 69-69.
	Andrew Gusek in Greensboro, North Carolina, NC4AG, 73s.
	Eric Mahoney.
	Eric Mahoney in Hamilton, Ontario, 58-16.
	Sir Don in Wyndham, New Hampshire, 55-55.
	We drop off really fast on today's show.
	Tyler Hebb in Melrose, Massachusetts, that's 5-0-0-5.
	Small boobs.
	What?
	Yeah, fine.
	Move on.
	Steven, plain old Steven.
	By the way, he says this, Stephen says, a couple notes, he's at 50 bucks, these are in Champaign, Illinois.
	Note to JCD, Olath, Kansas is pronounced Olathe.
	Olathe.
	Olathe, I'll never remember that because there's not that many donors from Olathe, Kansas.
	And then he says, note to AC, a previous suggestion from you about 6th Street in Austin was spot on.
	It was a memorable bachelor party.
	Hmm.
	Oh, good.
	Thanks for the invite.
	We're both quite good at giving advice.
	I think he actually did invite me, if I think about it.
	Oh, you didn't go?
	Bachelor party?
	You know what that means.
	Yellow rose!
	Okay, these are all $50 donors, which is name and location.
	Will Schenkel in Conway, Arkansas.
	Jesse Nolet in Arlington, Texas.
	Jason Brockman in Hamilton, Ohio.
	Michael Vickland in Sweden.
	Richard Gardner, parts unknown, but he's Sir Richard Gardner.
	Sir Richard.
	David Peet in Aubrey, Texas.
	Ray Maddox.
	I shouldn't have read race, but anyway, he's in Canada.
	So that'll be it.
	That's it.
	That's all we got.
	Yeah, and of course, we typically don't read notes in the full-on donation segment, but it's always a good idea.
	If you think it's going to be low, come in.
	You never know.
	We might read you a note because it's interesting.
	So come on, champ.
	Show us how tough you are.
	And we will have another program on Sunday.
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	I'll be ready to go.
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	Working ahead.
	Working ahead.
	Got the whole day tomorrow.
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	We have no commercials.
	This is the only way it works.
	But of course we do have a network.
	It's the thing that they never understood.
	Mainstream media never understood.
	What we inherently just kind of fell into is the network.
	You can't have a show and just use the network for distribution.
	It's the network.
	It's the people who give us information.
	It's the news network.
	It's a dimensional network because the show goes out over a network.
	Which goes everywhere.
	And we have a network that's structured around the network that is reflected by the network that the show goes over.
	Exactly.
	It's three-dimensional.
	It is.
	It is.
	It's three-dimensional.
	It's so odd that they never see these things.
	They just never see it.
	I get the biggest kick out of these stories, too.
	They talk about, oh, podcasting, podcasting.
	And then they always just...
	They never talk about podcasting.
	They actually talk mostly about repurposing PBS shows.
	You mean NPR shows?
	NPR shows.
	Yeah, exactly.
	They mostly talk about that.
	Or serial.
	That's like the biggest thing.
	Oh, nobody ever heard of podcasting before.
	Serial.
	Which is an extended news story.
	Yeah, it's sad.
	So the Panama Papers came out with a database that you can search.
	Yes, I've been playing with it.
	But it's stupid.
	It says it right there.
	It says there's no raw documents.
	Yeah, it says it's stupid.
	It is stupid.
	It's stupid.
	I mean, you can find people's names.
	Yeah, but they just extrapolated documents and made nifty little web pages, but you're not even seeing the raw documents.
	This is not a leak.
	It's failing.
	It's failing.
	Whatever the idea was behind this, it's failing.
	And this is the next.
	Oh, we've got a database.
	Look up your name.
	That's not interesting.
	You're not in there, by the way.
	Neither are you.
	Well, that's rude of you to check.
	Well, you checked me.
	You really checked me, didn't you?
	No, not really.
	I know you're not in there.
	Where would you be?
	I know your finances.
	I'm a podcaster.
	Oh, man.
	Alright, I got a couple things.
	Okay, good.
	And we have a clip that's coming up at the end of the show.
	Which is soon.
	Which is soon.
	Yeah, okay.
	Well, you tell me when it's time for the clip blitz and I'll start it up.
	All right, good.
	I got the biggest kick out of this story.
	This is the story about, oh, they work on these guys to death in China.
	It's about tech startups in China.
	And it sounds like, you know, I think for some reason the whole tech scene is just sick.
	And this is a good example.
	What's the name of the...
	It's called Startup in China.
	Ah, sorry.
	Got it.
	Now, despite this new Lego factory, China is going through a major transition from heavy manufacturing to a more service-oriented and high-tech-driven economy.
	The country's young entrepreneurs are certainly dedicated, to the point that tech startups now encourage employees to sleep in the office just to squeeze the most out of the working day.
	Here's more.
	It's night time in Beijing, but the working day is far from over.
	In China's tech start-ups, 16-hour work days are not unusual.
	In this company, an internet recruitment platform, Liu Jianyu spends the night in a room next to his office.
	It saves him several hours commute every day.
	So from Monday to Friday, he bunks down here.
	Sleeping at work seems quite normal to me.
	Our boss always says our ambition will keep us awake so we won't feel tired.
	The hard part is I can't see my child very often.
	Companies expect employees to sacrifice their private lives as the technology sector grows more and more competitive.
	It's now 11pm, but people in this office are still hard at work.
	Chinese people are adding a dose of fighting spirit into entrepreneurial culture.
	They disregard personal achievement and devote everything they have, let their passion burn to further the dreams of their team.
	This is bullcrap.
	This is like the sweatshops.
	Well, it's not going to be, oh, the worst part about working on the assembly line kind of thing.
	The assembly line guys have gotten it straightened out to the point where they're only really working six hours a day.
	They've got to break a good hour lunch and a couple other things.
	It's an eight-hour day, but maybe six hours of assembly line work.
	This 16-hour-a-day thing, which is all over Silicon Valley and China apparently now, is worse than working on the assembly line.
	And then you're bullcrap.
	You're sold a bill of goods and this is good for this team.
	Hello, JavaScript hackers.
	This is your future.
	Working in a Chinese-like sweatshop in Silicon Valley.
	Anyway, they showed this thing.
	They had, like, bunk rooms.
	You go up and there's a bunk bed.
	A bunch of bunk beds where you sleep the night at the office.
	I started watching the new season of Silicon Valley on HBO. It's getting better.
	I'm really liking it now.
	Well, everyone told me the first episode of that show is really outstanding.
	Yeah, there's a lot of realism in this.
	A lot.
	I haven't started watching it yet.
	Yeah.
	Okay, one more longer clip.
	How about the one from the Queen?
	I thought that fit perfectly with this.
	Well, that was going to be in Clip Blitz.
	Well, yeah, play it.
	This is because it relates to China.
	Yeah, that's why.
	You want to set it up?
	Can we hear it okay?
	I saw this, did not clip it, because I thought it would be a little too unintelligible.
	No, I never got the clip.
	No, this is just a report of what she said.
	I don't have her voice.
	Okay, no problem.
	Queen Elizabeth has been called on camera saying that Chinese officials on a state visit to Britain were, quote, very rude.
	The 90-year-old British monarch made the comments to a senior police officer at a garden party.
	Buckingham Palace refused to comment further and is stressing that the Chinese president's visit was, quote, extremely successful.
	I saw the report on BBC. It was a little different, and I heard what she said, but it was really the cop.
	The cop was saying, boy, these people were incredibly rude to me.
	And then Queen Mum says something to the effect of, yes, yes, it was quite rude, wasn't she?
	So it wasn't like she was saying, I had a bunch of rude idiots, those jinx.
	No, not quite.
	I think they were eating with their mouth open.
	Well, that's not what she was complaining about.
	Now, before you get into clip blitz, I have the audio, which, A, it gives hope.
	But B is also part of the war against men.
	This is the voicemail recording left by 92-year-old Sumner Redstone.
	Did you hear about this?
	No.
	Oh, he's calling a hooker.
	And he's telling her what they're going to do this weekend.
	I met this guy, by the way, and chatted with him.
	Did you shake his hand?
	Well, it's pretty hard to shake his hand.
	Oh?
	Oh, his hand is like two claws are all...
	It's like he's so arthritic.
	Okay, so you've seen him.
	Now imagine, he's talking about bringing his friend Bob along.
	Bob has never had a threesome with two men before.
	But I'm going to do her from behind while she's the second Bob, and then we'll switch.
	What are you talking to in this?
	He's leaving a voicemail, Brookie.
	He's leaving a voicemail.
	Yes.
	That is like his favorite escort.
	This is fantastic.
	I don't know if you can really hear it, so tell me if it's no good.
	But otherwise, in the show notes, everyone can listen to it and laugh later.
	Mark has never done a free show with two men.
	He's done it with two women.
	So he's a little bit nervous, but he's going to come because I want him to.
	And the patient's going to come, I told him.
	Can you hear any of this?
	A little bit, but it's not intelligible enough to continue, I think.
	But he's talking about the threesome's gonna happen.
	And it just goes on and on.
	And the guy's a horndog.
	So...
	You know, if you ever met the guy, I don't...
	This woman has to be charging him a fortune.
	Oh, no doubt.
	And I don't think he gives a crap.
	Nor would I, I think.
	No, he doesn't.
	He's worth billions.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, if you ever met the guy, you were saying, if you ever met the guy...
	Well, he's not...
	I don't want to be demeaning, but he's...
	I think if we're a hooker, I think it would be a horrible experience.
	You've got to really lay down some cash.
	Yeah, that's a real hooker there.
	That's the real one.
	What a cute guy.
	These are pros.
	These are very important.
	Big money pros, that's for sure.
	92 though.
	Yeah, well the guy's hanging in there.
	Yay Viagra!
	Well, he's got a lot of spirit, let's put it this way.
	Spirit is what they call it, eh?
	He's got spirit, that guy.
	Let's play one more clip before clip blitz.
	This is Snapchat and CBS. This is kind of an interesting story.
	Okay, here we go.
	A lawsuit claims that the mobile app Snapchat was responsible for a high-speed crash.
	Snapchat is instant messaging with pictures, and most people use it for fun.
	But Jerika Duncan reports a few are snap bragging about dangerous stunts and violent crimes.
	16-year-old Amy Joyner of Delaware died last week after being beaten in her high school bathroom.
	A student allegedly recorded the attack with a cell phone and shared it on social media.
	Senior Zuleta Zayas attended a vigil for Joyner.
	Social media plays a big part in a lot of what's going on nowadays.
	You know, it's cool to record a fight.
	It's cool to be on social media because of a fight.
	And I think that's where a lot of us mess up.
	In Ohio last week, this 18-year-old allegedly live-streamed the rape of a 17-year-old girl on the app Periscope.
	She faces up to 40 years in prison for charges including the illegal filming of a minor.
	In March, near Tacoma, three teenagers were charged with raping a 15-year-old girl and posting it on Snapchat, an app with more than 100 million daily users.
	So this is how Snapchat works.
	You can take video or even pictures.
	Before I send the video, I can choose from a number of filters.
	This one will show you just how fast I'm going.
	Last year, 18-year-old Crystal McGee from Atlanta allegedly used this speed filter to take a selfie and show her friend she was driving 107 miles per hour.
	Moments later, she crashed into a driver who was seriously injured.
	McGee survived, but continued to post pictures of herself while on a stretcher with the caption, Lucky to be alive.
	How?
	Some of her teenagers say that things don't feel real until you see them on social media.
	Lisa DeMoore is a child psychologist.
	We're talking about situations where people are seriously injured and in some cases death.
	It's so tough with teenagers because their better judgment can be overridden by their wish to be connected to their friends.
	In a statement, Snapchat said, we actively discourage our community from using the speed filter while driving.
	The company says a do-not-snap-and-drive warning appears in the app.
	But, Scott, that was not the case when we used the app as passengers.
	Oh, man.
	Is this pathetic?
	Yeah.
	Well, but, you know, kids have been doing things for the great photo ever since photos.
	Yeah.
	And they got nothing better to do.
	Like, there's an element of nothing better to do.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I love that Curl creates a wreck and then takes pictures of herself on this stretcher.
	Yeah, still lucky to be alive.
	Blessed.
	Blessed.
	Love and light.
	Yes, we send you love and light.
	Blessed.
	I use that so often now on the face bags.
	Just everywhere.
	Love and light.
	Because the people who aren't in on the joke think I'm very nice and...
	Yeah, you're a sweetheart.
	Sweetheart, and I have...
	Good looking man.
	No, but I have compassion.
	I'm an emotional man.
	I'm an emotional man.
	A woman's dream come true.
	Yes, and thank you.
	And those who are in on the joke, you laugh their ass off because they know that people are not in on the joke.
	That's bullshit and you're a douchebag.
	Fabulous.
	So we have to propagate this.
	More love and light.
	Before we move into the Clip Blitz, two things.
	One is a question about what kind of state you are living in.
	Monday, California State Assembly passed AB 1732, a bathroom bill that would require all single-use bathrooms in public, business, and government establishments to be designated as all-gender toilet facilities.
	California continues to move forward, be forward-thinking, think about how we can be more inclusive and, frankly, more tolerant.
	Assemblymember Philip Ting co-authored the bill.
	He says gender-inclusive single-use restrooms are just common sense and should be more convenient for all people to use.
	Now listen to this guy.
	And my hope is that we depoliticize the bathroom issue.
	You are politicizing it.
	But Assemblymember James Gallagher argued that if this bill becomes law, the state would be deciding how business owners should best serve their customers.
	He also argued that gender-inclusive single-use restrooms will inconvenience women.
	No woman wants to use the bathroom after many men have been in that same bathroom.
	So he actually said that.
	And, yeah.
	First of all, war on men.
	It's part of the war on men, obviously.
	What about the single-use bathroom in anybody's home is always used by a man?
	You have to have a sign.
	That's the point.
	A house?
	Yes.
	Of course you will.
	Ultimately, the California building code will include a sign on every bathroom that says it's all gender.
	I gotta get one of those signs and put it on my bathroom.
	But, you know, I'm so...
	This, if you want to know, is the world laughing at the United States of America?
	Yes.
	The world cannot believe we're arguing about where you can poop and who can poop where.
	And then taking it one step further into, hey, ladies, you don't want to be where we poop.
	We're disgusting animals.
	Excuse me.
	First of all, I don't poop away from home, if I can avoid it.
	Do not like it.
	But, you know, I leave everything clean and I don't make too much noise.
	I despise airport bathrooms with men, though.
	Gosh, if I hear the women are no better.
	Women are all...
	You think it's only men who are...
	You go in the airport in the morning with dudes, it is disgusting.
	Oh, God.
	Okay, well, I'm glad you let that...
	It's shared.
	Well, I'm just saying it's ridiculous.
	It's ridiculous we're even having this conversation.
	The next one.
	Caitlyn Jenner, possibly detransitioning.
	Yes, which we predicted.
	You specifically predicted, but it fell right into a whole line of theory I had, and we agree wholeheartedly that this is the big one, this is the big money shot for the movie, the book, the book, the movie.
	The book.
	The book and movie.
	And now we're getting reports everywhere about Caitlyn Jenner possibly transitioning back to a man.
	Yeah, she never had the lop it off of me.
	The lumpectomy?
	No.
	No.
	Then I still am not convinced those are implants.
	Do you think she's just wearing falsies?
	I'm not.
	I'm just looking at the pictures.
	I've discussed this with multiple women.
	They all agree that it is possible that this has been tightly controlled, so to speak, and that he may never have even had the implants put in.
	That could be, but they could be easily removed if they were.
	But even so, he had pecs.
	He had pecs to start with.
	Yeah, and you could push them around.
	And so, do we need to do anything more than say, we expected this?
	I don't think so.
	I think it was pretty much of a...
	Yeah, it was obvious.
	The guy didn't even want to change his voice.
	Yeah.
	It's just a guy in drag.
	It was just a cross-dressing exercise.
	Which is okay, too.
	Played up.
	Yeah, played up.
	That's perfectly fine.
	No problem what you wear, man.
	I don't care what you do.
	But sad, if true, if you really went through this for the book.
	Sad as the public buying into this bull crap and then get woman of the year in some magazine.
	That's the bad part.
	Not just a magazine, but it was...
	Wasn't she Sports Illustrated's LGBTSI, BBQT, IAP, something or other award-winning nominee?
	Well, at least she wasn't in the swimsuit edition.
	Vanity Fair, I don't know.
	No, he's going to, this is what we're talking, what we're hearing.
	She is going to be in the swimsuit edition with his medals.
	God.
	That would be the final kicker into the D transition, I think.
	Well, maybe.
	Everyone's just sucker then.
	Let's go with the...
	All right, here we go.
	Time for the Clips Blinks.
	A special John C. Dvorak feature.
	Traffic signals on sidewalks.
	And now on a much lighter note, a town in Germany has put traffic lights on the sidewalks for people who are so glued to their smartphones that they fail to see what is right in front of their noses.
	These flashing lights are designed to attract the attention of even the most intent while texting and walking.
	Officials in Augsburg installed them at tram crossings after a series of accidents that involved people getting injured while staring at their phones.
	Come on, look up everyone.
	The whole world is out there.
	Yes!
	Google to ban payday ads.
	There'll be no more payday lending ads on Google starting in July.
	The internet giant says it's banning the ads because the industry is, quote, deceptive and harmful, often charging triple-digit interest.
	Google dominates internet searches and controls the largest advertising platforms.
	Red, 33!
	Knife attack in Germany.
	Oh, crap.
	I'm sorry.
	I messed that one up.
	So come on, champ.
	Show us how tough you are.
	David, thank you.
	Overseas tonight and from Germany, a knife attack on a commuter train near Munich, triggering terror fears this morning.
	One witness said the attacker shouted, God is great in Arabic, as he stabbed four people on and around the train.
	One of his victims has now died.
	He later surrendered peacefully.
	Investigators say there was no apparent tie to Islamic extremists.
	What country is missing from this one?
	Ukraine peace talks.
	Earlier today, here in Berlin, Germany's foreign minister opened new peace talks on eastern Ukraine.
	He said the political process has come to a standstill And it cannot stay that way.
	But it will remain that way, at least for the time being.
	Top diplomats from Russia, Ukraine, France, and Germany met for a twelfth time to find some sort of lasting peace.
	Well, not much came from it, apart from hopes for a lucky 13.
	Very nice.
	Very strange.
	Last one.
	Army cadets.
	The West Point Military Academy has launched an investigation into a group of African-American women cadets after a photo surfaced showing them posing with their fists in the air as they were set to graduate.
	The gesture was seen by some as a sign of solidarity with the Black Lives Matter movement.
	Tommy Smith and John Carlos raised their hands in a similar gesture, the Black Power salute at the 1968 Olympics in Mexico City.
	But a West Point graduate who spoke with the cadets told the New York Times, quote, These ladies weren't raising their fists to say Black Panthers.
	They were raising it to say Beyonce.
	For them, it's not a sign of allegiance to a movement.
	It's a sign that means unity and pride and sisterhood.
	Very, very, very good job.
	Alright, we wrap it up.
	So come on, champ.
	Show us how tough you are.
	That's right.
	Good one.
	Beyonce.
	Bianchi.
	I know it's sad.
	So sad.
	Not ready then.
	See you tomorrow morning, leaving early?
	Off to Nueva York.
	We fly, I think, at...
	I'm up at 7.30 tomorrow.
	We fly pretty early.
	Get into the city.
	And then there's the groom.
	The groom's family is throwing a drink or something.
	It'll be fun.
	Is there going to be a bachelor party?
	I'm not invited to that.
	Why?
	I don't know the groom at all.
	I only know the bride.
	Although I could have spun some records for him, you know.
	That would be the typical request I get from my family.
	Invite Adam, you can spin some records.
	Can you play us some songs?
	Yeah.
	All right, everybody.
	Thank you very much for listening.
	Remember, we do have another show coming up on Sunday.
	And you can remember us at Dvorak.org slash NA. Until then, coming to you from the Crackpot Condo in the Skyscraper here in downtown Austin in the morning, everybody.
	My name is Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, plain and simple, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We will return on Sunday right here on No Agenda.
	Adios, mofos.
	You got a clip on?
	Hello?
	Oh.
	You got some clips to the hospital?
	Peace.
	Exactly.
	It's not going to destabilize me.
	Damn it.
	I lost my book on the day.
	For 30 minutes, exactly.
	Yeah.
	What the fuck?
	Get that book.
	It's nice to have a government.
	Unicorns!
	Obviously, I read the New York Times like all day long, mainly on my iPad app.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	The love in you is more than just a dream come true.
	And everything that I do is out of love in you.
	No, no, no, no.
	No, no, no, no, no.
	Hey man, fist bump.
	Adios, mofo.
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