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	They're going nuts.
	Yeah.
	They're going nuts.
	Yeah.
	They're going nuts.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Thursday, February 11th, 2016.
	And time once again for you.
	Gitmo Nation Media Assassination.
	Episode 7, 9 or 8.
	This is no agenda.
	Fact-checking the fantastical.
	Guarding your reality.
	And broadcasting live from the Capitol.
	The drone star.
	State.
	Austin Tejas.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where the El Nino is hitting hard with hot weather, I'm John C. Devorak.
	I'm so glad we tested everything before the show, because you came in really low there.
	I did?
	That's all right.
	I got you cranked.
	I got you cranked, man.
	I got you cranked.
	Heyo!
	Well, congratulations.
	Okay.
	Yeah, you were correct.
	Oh, yes.
	Yes, you're talking about the football game.
	Yeah, although I made two predictions, and one of mine was correct as well.
	Okay, what was the prediction you made that was correct?
	Okay, well, the incorrect prediction, of course, was that the black man would be put down and lose, as in the black quarterback, Cam.
	So, of course, he would win.
	Yeah, you said he'd win because of Black Lives Matter.
	Right.
	So what I said was there will be controversy about Black Lives Matter, and bam, there it was.
	What?
	With the halftime show.
	Oh, you know, this is funny because this terrible halftime show, which I think was one of the worst.
	The whole Super Bowl was one of the worst shows I've ever seen.
	That's the way I felt.
	Well, not when you're rooting for Denver.
	They sucked.
	They did something they know.
	They just stunk.
	I mean, more like a television production.
	That's where it really was bad.
	The whole first half, it was not sparkly.
	The colors were muted.
	Gold is a very hard color to make work on television.
	Impossible.
	It was the 50th anniversary.
	So the gold on the field looked like grayish, yellowish, orangeish poop.
	Yeah, it was poop.
	Didn't look any good.
	And it did look much better the second half.
	Oh, excuse me.
	I counted three.
	If we're not going to count the teams coming onto the field, which I always like.
	I think that's exciting.
	It's usually two.
	Yeah, usually two teams, yes.
	No, but I counted only three times outside of the opening where we saw a cheerleader.
	What are these people thinking?
	What are these people thinking?
	I don't get it either.
	There was not a single good cheerleader shot during the entire show.
	Just, you know, like a quick, oh, we saw something briefly.
	I think there was a blink.
	Yeah, there was a blink shot just bing and out.
	Who was running that show over there?
	That is dumb.
	I agree with that.
	They had no glamour shots.
	They had a couple guys crawling around looking for people in the stands crying.
	They always do that.
	Well, I think they put all of their television production time into the halftime show, which is not unusual.
	And it was a crap show.
	Well, before we get to the halftime...
	Coldplay stinks.
	Wait, before we get to the halftime...
	I thought Lady Gaga was fantastic.
	Everybody did.
	I loved Lady Gaga.
	And I'm just sitting there going like, where's the flyby cue?
	The flyby cue?
	There it is!
	The money shot.
	She actually did the last line of the national anthem twice.
	And she went out of, she went up to the flageolette.
	I have to say, very impressed.
	She can sing.
	Girl can definitely sing.
	And, yeah, that was actually the highlight of the whole evening.
	It was.
	It was all downhill from there.
	It really was.
	And, well, anyway, so this Beyonce thing, I guess it was some controversial song.
	I couldn't hear a word of it.
	You can't hear it.
	It's poorly my...
	If you had listened to me before the show...
	I said, remember we talked about this?
	She dropped her new single.
	She dropped her new single.
	I didn't listen to you.
	I remember dropping the single single.
	It was all about Katrina and Negroes and cops killing us.
	Yeah.
	Well, just because she dropped a single, didn't mean I went out to listen to it.
	And so then when she did this song, I didn't know what she was singing.
	I couldn't hear it.
	That was the beauty of it.
	She mumbles when she sings.
	I don't think she's that good.
	No, she's a good singer.
	She's a good singer.
	Well...
	She almost fell on her ass, though, during that dance.
	Yes.
	Whoa!
	That would happen.
	I think there was a chink in Bay's armor there for me.
	I'm like, ooh.
	That would be the highlight of the show.
	Well, I have a quick bit of analysis of the Beyoncé show from...
	This is of course from the show that matters.
	It doesn't matter what you and I think, John.
	It matters what the women think on The View.
	That's what matters in America.
	This is actually the CNN, what's her name?
	Sunny Hostin, I think.
	Hostin?
	Hostin?
	She's a CNN legal analyst, and she was a guest on The View to discuss the Beyonce controversy.
	She was being sort of unapologetically socially conscious, and because if you look at some of the tweets that were sent out, her mother had her fist up along with the dancers, and they also had a sign that said, Black Lives Matter.
	So I actually was really impressed with it.
	I thought it was extremely brave to have someone that's an A-lister that has such a huge following and a platform to be socially conscious.
	Because the bottom line is people don't want to talk about it, but we are in the middle of a social justice crisis in our country.
	We are.
	And for me, when I saw it, I was applauding because I thought...
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Yes, B. Yes.
	All right, contrarian view.
	So she was sitting there.
	She says this.
	She was sitting there watching this and applauding.
	She's sitting there.
	She's actually sitting there watching this.
	She's clapping and applauding.
	Yeah, sure.
	She just meant that figuratively.
	No, I think she really was doing it.
	Probably.
	Why not?
	All the ladies, John.
	All women in the world love Beyonce.
	And I will say, why?
	I don't know.
	I'm not sure exactly, but it was a strong, strong female figure.
	I agree with Beyonce.
	If your man hit it right, you take him to Red Lobster.
	That's what I'm saying.
	I'm expecting some Red Lobster tonight.
	So Red Lobster, this is how pathetic things are.
	Red Lobster sales went up 33% nationwide.
	Yeah, hello, can we have a magic number?
	Oh wait, could it be perfect time for a native advertising moment on NPR? Good morning, I'm David Green.
	I mean, why pay money for a Super Bowl ad?
	Red Lobster has seen a spike in business thanks, it seems, to Beyonce's new hit, Formation, which she performed at halftime.
	In the song, she takes a guy to Red Lobster for dinner after they, well, listen to the song.
	But Apparently many people are craving Cheddar Bay biscuits.
	Red Lobster has seen a 33% boost in sales since the song dropped.
	The restaurant tweeted at Beyonce, quote, thanks for one heck of a weekend.
	Okay, we gotta see.
	I'm now against this drop thing, too.
	This is irritating me.
	I'm glad you're on board.
	Oh my god.
	NPR, since the song dropped.
	It dropped.
	Is that gonna be in the dictionary now?
	New word?
	New meaning of the word?
	Dropped?
	It dropped?
	Then we have Sheriff Clark.
	You recall Sheriff Clark is the black sheriff who always weighs in on all things black and white.
	Oh, he's the hard-ass black sheriff.
	Hard-ass black sheriff who I think had the right attitude about the whole show.
	There's one more thing I want to ask you about.
	Beyonce put out a new video, music video.
	Uh-oh, sorry.
	Uh-oh.
	She didn't say it right.
	She didn't say they dropped it.
	She just got to say drop.
	Beyonce dropped a new...
	There's one more thing I want to ask you about.
	Beyonce put out a new video, music video, called Formation, and it has been interpreted to be pro-Black Lives Matter and potentially looking at issues inside New Orleans as well.
	How did you...
	There are some sheriffs that reacted poorly to that.
	They didn't like it.
	They turned their backs to Beyonce during...
	Yeah, I should mention that, you know, the...
	The police, law enforcement agency community, the LEAs, were, of course, on the face bags and on the grams and everywhere on the tweets saying, hey, you know, it was a hundred car, a hundred cops escorted her to the stadium, and now you're going to be all against us?
	The Super Bowl halftime show, what was your thought on the matter?
	Well, I try not to overreact to these things.
	I don't give this thing any more play than it's already getting.
	Look, musicians have long used their music, their trade, to make political statements in their music.
	We may not like it, but I don't want to make a huge deal about it.
	Them coming out, Beyonce, in those Black Panther-type uniforms, would that be acceptable if a band, a white band, came out in hoods and white sheets?
	In the same sort of fashion.
	It would bring in writing, Sheriff.
	Be appalled and outraged.
	The Black Panthers are subversive.
	I can just see some producer going, hmm, hmm.
	Some guy's thinking about it.
	A subversive hate group in America.
	I think she could have done a better job, but I think Bruno Mars was a better halftime act anyway.
	I could have watched him for the entire act.
	What I felt is this really made the white man look bad, this whole Super Bowl performance.
	Chris Martin of Coldplay is already kind of seen as the milk is toast guy you can imagine.
	And then to slip him in between Bruno Mars and Beyonce.
	It's just mean.
	It's just mean.
	I don't know why he did it.
	He's Chris Martin.
	Yeah, he looks like a douche.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Anyway, so you did nail the outcome of the game.
	That was unexpected.
	I personally felt that the ref, you know, once they had used their two challenges, it was like, you have no challenges left!
	And then it was just boom, boom, boom.
	Every flag against him.
	There was a lot of questions.
	Against the black man.
	It was all against the black man, I'm telling you.
	He was put down.
	He was put down.
	The only ref's knee was like a sheriff's badge to make it really work.
	So the imagery would be better.
	Yeah.
	Well, I said, people said, how did these guys win?
	I said, the game's fixed.
	We didn't know this.
	Just look.
	I would tell everybody, I say it all the time.
	Tell everybody, go on Google and look up Bubba Smith Super Bowl fixed.
	Those are the words.
	And then you can read all you want.
	It goes on and on forever.
	Do you want to tell us what?
	In Super Bowl III, Bubba Smith was a very famous defensive end.
	Very famous and big defensive end.
	Kill Bubba Kill.
	I think it was in Michigan or Michigan State.
	They used to yell, Kill Bubba Kill.
	He was such a big kid in college.
	And he'd go just plowing through everything and just knocking people over.
	And he was in Super Bowl III with the losing team.
	And he says he swears the game was fixed because Super Bowl III is when Joe Namath and the You can stop me when you're sick of this.
	But Joe Namath and the New York Jets, it's the only time they've won a Super Bowl.
	They came in on Super Bowl III. Super Bowl I and II were duds.
	Super Bowl I, you could get a ticket.
	50-yard line.
	Well, not a 50-yard line.
	You can get a good ticket.
	The Super Bowl won for $12.
	So the Super Bowl wasn't going anywhere.
	It was after the merger of the AFL and the NFL. And they had to jack it up.
	And so what they did, according to Bubba Smith, was they made the AFC team win.
	They fixed it.
	They rigged the game so the AFC team would win to incite interest in the Super Bowl so they'd get more people to be interested in the game and go to and pay big money to what we have today, 50 years later.
	And so he writes this long thing.
	He says they somehow had our plays.
	They were going to do something.
	Wait, they had their plays?
	It's what he says.
	They seem to know what our plays were.
	I'm always wondering about the telecommunications.
	As far as I can see, I think...
	What's his face?
	White guy.
	He had a headset in his helmet.
	All the quarterbacks do.
	Okay.
	I would be a little worried about that.
	You'd think that you could intercept those.
	They're supposed to be encrypted or something.
	I don't know.
	I don't know what the details are.
	I should go find out, by the way.
	But I don't know what the details are, but that would be against the rules.
	Well, I can understand that.
	So it's fixed.
	Yes, of course it's fixed.
	We got it.
	I enjoy it.
	It was a good defense.
	But also, let's be honest.
	Peyton Manning?
	That guy's got white privilege.
	I mean, what other...
	Do you see any black quarterback going up and saying, Budweiser, because I own a distributor.
	I own...
	The guy's got a...
	What does he have?
	One?
	How many Budweiser distributorships does he have?
	I don't know.
	He's got more than one, I understand.
	White privilege, man.
	He also...
	He apparently owns over 30 franchises for Papa John's Pizza.
	Papa Murphy, Papa John.
	I don't know, Papa John, Papa Murphy, some Papa.
	That's right.
	The guy he kissed on the lips.
	Again, white privilege right there.
	Hey, Cam Newton probably makes a lot more money.
	He could buy stuff too if he wanted to.
	Surely you don't take it seriously.
	As you know, that's our sports moment.
	We do that maybe four or five times a year.
	There was kind of a tie-in as everyone's all talking about what happened, Beyonce and all this stuff.
	A lawsuit was filed against the city of Ferguson, Missouri, by the Department of Justice.
	And I decided, oh, what the heck, maybe I should just go and see what the lawsuit says.
	This kept me up until 2 in the morning.
	I'll bet it did.
	This was not a good idea.
	Here is a quick little overview of...about the Department of Justice bringing a federal civil rights lawsuit against the city of Ferguson, Missouri.
	The Department of Justice is now suing the city of Ferguson, Missouri.
	Federal authorities issued a withering report on police practices in Ferguson after the police killing of Michael Brown.
	Yesterday, the Ferguson City Council tried to amend an agreement with the DOJ to overhaul the city's criminal justice system.
	Andy.
	John, just moments ago we talked to a city spokesman of Ferguson who said that they are disappointed but not surprised by this lawsuit.
	Last night at a very noisy city council meeting, a number of people stood up and demanded that the city council accept the proposals to overhaul Ferguson's police department from the Department of Justice.
	It's called a consent decree.
	And in the end, the city council did indeed unanimously approve the consent decree, but then They said with seven revisions, just seven, they said, in pages of proposals that would lighten the financial burden of the city to hand out these, to overhaul the police department.
	The Justice Department was none too pleased.
	Now, the city says it's trying to make changes already, but the Department of Justice says it's not coming quickly or thoroughly enough.
	The residents of Ferguson have suffered the deprivation of their constitutional rights, the rights guaranteed to all...
	This is Loretta Lynch, the country singer.
	Americans for decades.
	They have waited decades for justice.
	They should not be forced to wait any longer.
	Okay, so I am...
	What is she doing about Hillary?
	Go on.
	All right, thanks.
	What exactly is going on?
	So I look at the lawsuit.
	The lawsuit, it must be 150 different instances of Of mainly a very obvious corrupt system that we've seen in many other places in the United States, which is the debtor jail.
	And it happens because you get these correctional facilities that are run by Correctional Corporation of America.
	Everybody's in on it.
	Everybody's on the take.
	You get a small traffic violation, which is...
	We spent a whole show almost talking about the scams.
	And this seems to be...
	The pinnacle.
	Knowing that the mayor of Ferguson has been all in on privatization.
	He has privatized as much as he possibly could throughout his tenure in Ferguson.
	So I'm reading this lawsuit.
	It's really, really long.
	You have to improve things.
	And at the bottom of the lawsuit, there's a clause known as the prayer for relief.
	Which is, excuse me, what the United States Justice Department prays that the court, colon, declare that the defendant, the city of Ferguson, has engaged in a pattern or practice of conduct that deprives persons of rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution of the Laws of the United States.
	And then a couple of, actually, Title V, Title VI, The court ordered the defendant, his officers, agents, and employees to refrain from engaging in any of the predicate acts forming the basis of the pattern or practice of conduct described herein.
	So really, they're not asking for anything.
	But then I discovered the consent decree.
	Wow.
	This is about 80 pages.
	And it reads, well, I'll tell you what it reads like.
	If I just read a couple of them for you.
	Parties have determined in this agreement rather than costly and protracted litigation.
	Most effective means to resolve all issues between DOJ and the city.
	This agreement resolves all claims in the United States.
	Complaint filed in this case.
	The agreement also constitutes a full and complete settlement of any and all civil claims.
	So, Ferguson, if you can get through this consent decree and you adhere to it, then we'll drop everything against you.
	This thing reads like...
	An RFP, like a response to a request for proposals, for privatized police.
	I mean, they've got everything in here.
	Training.
	If I were just to count it up, I don't know how many officers they have.
	But every office has 40 hours of training a year, not just in firearm and electronic weapon safety, which would be tasers, but in integration into communities.
	I mean, it's just pages and pages of requirements that...
	It's going to cost tens of millions of dollars.
	Oh, please, also notice that Big Push and, you know, Ferguson has to have body cameras, helmet cameras, car cameras, motorcycle cameras, walking cameras, biking cameras.
	They have already selected the vendor, according to the consent decree.
	So, you know, that's a big push.
	And I have...
	You don't remember that, though, do you?
	I don't remember what?
	The vendor.
	The vendor.
	No, they say a vendor has been chosen.
	They don't say who the vendor is.
	But there's really only one company.
	That's kind of corrupt.
	Well, I think this, John, if I read this properly, again, it's about 80 pages.
	I just marked a couple things.
	Just so you can hear what...
	Also, you have to inform that the cops will be recording all the time.
	Even if you walk up to somebody, you'll be recorded.
	They do state nicely that individuals shall be permitted to record officer activity, which, of course, has been a problem.
	It's training, and from what I understand, just in comments made, they're looking at $25 to $30 million to implement this.
	John, to me, this is a template for privatized police department.
	So I don't know who's coming in.
	I know there's always been a lot of talk about doing this, about privatizing a lot of services.
	I know in Colorado and Wyoming.
	There's been several, yeah.
	But when you just have to read, it's in the show notes as marked up, but if you really read this, you pretty much have to scrap the whole police department and start over again.
	In fact, that was one of the main things, the reason why they couldn't agree on this document and why the lawsuit was ultimately filed.
	It did not state in it that Ferguson had the right to fire everybody and bring in a privatized or commercial corporation to set up a new police department.
	You know, I wonder if, you know, what's the name of the company that's the prisons that Bill Gates invested in?
	Yeah, the Correctional Corporation of America.
	I wonder, you know, they must see the writing on the wall with these new political candidates coming in, and they're talking about reforming the justice system, and they must see that this business of building and building and building...
	It's probably going to come to an end over the next 20 years and they have to think of some new ways to make revenue.
	And perhaps a company like that would be developing these private police departments.
	So I have no proof of this, but it feels like this is the template.
	Here, do not use electronic ECWs, which is electronic controlled weapons.
	That's tasers.
	Do not use ECWs in drive stun mode.
	I had to look this one up.
	These tasers have two modes.
	One is the drive stun mode, which kind of amps up the electricity.
	And the cops have just been...
	You're only supposed to use that if someone's out completely insane, PCP, uncontrollable.
	No, these guys are using it just when someone's in the back of the car and doesn't want to get out.
	Shut up, slave.
	Tase you.
	So I'm going to be all over this.
	I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop.
	That hurt.
	On who is going to be fulfilling this contract.
	That's what's happening.
	And to have this all happen right around at the same time, this is all taking place, and so it was distracted by a whole bunch of things, including the primaries and the Super Bowl and God knows what else.
	So, eyes open on this.
	I'm looking for Ferguson.
	There are two CCA facilities in Missouri, both south of Ferguson.
	Oh.
	How convenient.
	I'm looking at those guys.
	I'm looking at those guys.
	But really, when you read what they were doing, the whole place was corrupt.
	What this debtor prison results in is you get pulled over for a minor infraction.
	You get written up.
	It's very unclear how you pay the fine.
	Then you get doubled.
	Then they come and arrest you.
	You sit in jail because you can't pay the fine.
	It's hard to get a bailman.
	You get fired from your job, so you'll never pay the fine.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So, yes, but this is not white on black.
	This is asshole corporations screwing with the community who, in this case, is almost 70% black.
	But it's really just a commercial bunch of a-holes ripping people off.
	You do.
	That's why people are voting for Bernie.
	Whoever comes in to privatize Ferguson, we'll see if they do any better.
	Will, which brings us up to you, you said other distractions and the big distraction.
	I thought the big distraction of the week wasn't the Super Bowl, but the elections themselves.
	Okay.
	And so we have a couple of rundowns here.
	Let's start with the ABC rundown of the Republican primary, which I've cut back a little.
	I've edited just a little bit.
	You might find some edits in here.
	Would it be any speeding up stuff?
	That's the way it is.
	Today, for anyone who thought Trump was just a reality star...
	New Hampshire was a reality check.
	Trump pulverized his closest rival two to one.
	Now he's already predicting his next victory.
	We are going now to South Carolina.
	We're going to win in South Carolina.
	But in South Carolina, Trump is already under attack by Ted Cruz, who today released this video.
	I got the Trump action figure.
	No way to see.
	What does he do?
	He pretends to be a Republican.
	South Carolina today, a big crowd for Ohio Governor John Kasich.
	He was last night's surprise second place finisher, running an upbeat campaign.
	Tonight, the light overcame the darkness of negative campaigns.
	Dave Kasich says he's ready to fight.
	Don't mess with me, okay?
	So I'm not going to be a pincushion or a marshmallow.
	But I'm also not going to spend my time trying to trash other people.
	Perhaps the biggest disappointment in New Hampshire was Marco Rubio.
	Fifth place.
	Blaming his debate disaster.
	Our disappointment tonight is not on you.
	It's on me.
	It's on me.
	I did not do well on Saturday night, so listen to this.
	That will never happen again.
	Rubio had real momentum until his repeat-a-thon at the ABC News debate.
	And let's dispel once and for all with this fiction that Barack Obama doesn't know what he's doing.
	He knows exactly what he's doing.
	Minutes later...
	Let's dispel with this fiction that Barack Obama doesn't know what he's doing.
	Woo!
	Nice added job.
	Oh yeah, very professional.
	So, I got the biggest kick out of this asshole Kasich, who says...
	Why do you call him an asshole?
	Didn't you read the Libertarians?
	The Libertarians say he's an asshole, so I'm all in.
	Oh, okay.
	I got you.
	Just making sure you're towing the party line, Jay.
	He...
	Well, here's a good example why he's an asshole.
	Listen to this.
	On that clip, he says, I'm not here to trash other people.
	You know, he also talks with his lips sticking out in a funny way.
	I don't even know how you can do that, but he talks this way.
	Which is annoying.
	If you remember, and I just didn't have the time to go find it, but if you remember the first Republican debate when Megyn Kelly was giving it to Trump...
	All he did over there in the corner at the end was rag on Trump for being unqualified, for being a jerk, for being a loudmouth.
	I mean, he might as well be in the Daily News in New York.
	So what's he talking about?
	He's just a phony, this guy.
	Oh, okay.
	He's doomed.
	Anyway, onward to the...
	So we can catch up.
	We have a shorter...
	I do want to say that I saw Kasich's guy on the morning of the primaries, who's kind of an older guy, and I... Damn, I forgot.
	I remember laughing out loud about it, but I forgot to clip it like a moron.
	He was so clueless.
	He's saying things like, well...
	These days, the kids, they're looking at other things.
	They're looking at tweets, and they've got these videos on a loop, on a tape loop.
	I think he meant Vine, but he was talking about videos on a tape loop.
	But he was very clear.
	They had a lot invested in whatever they were doing there.
	They put the most effort of all the candidates.
	Into the ground game.
	Whatever it's called.
	Apparently, he was serving food at one of the, you know, parking shop or something.
	The guy was out of control.
	Now, I do want to play this one little side clip, which is this is the...
	So you can see what the Europeans are thinking about how do they perceive this election.
	This is the Deutsche Welle.
	This is just a tease from the beginning of one of their shows.
	This is the Deutsche Welle, how they describe the candidates.
	On the road to the U.S. presidential elections, political outsiders triumph in New Hampshire.
	The self-proclaimed socialist Bernie Sanders wins the Democratic Party primary.
	And for the Republicans, TV star Donald Trump scores a decisive victory.
	Interesting how they only call him a TV star.
	That's kind of cool.
	Yeah, he's a TV star.
	Well, Ronald Reagan was an actor.
	Well, I'm sure to the Europeans, that's exactly what it is.
	Oh, I remember.
	I remember living in Europe and hearing everyone say, he's an actor.
	This is crazy.
	How can you have a Hollywood guy running the show?
	I remember that very, very well.
	I remember it.
	Now, do you want to focus on Democrats or Republicans first?
	I got a couple things, too.
	I'm just...
	Well, I do have both parties.
	If you want to stay on the Republicans for a minute, we can move to the Democrats.
	Because I actually have two clips that I want to play for sure from Democracy Now!
	from some woman called Arnie Arneson.
	I think she used to be a politico.
	Let's do this now.
	Let's do this now.
	Well, that's on the Democrats.
	We have to switch to the Democrats.
	Okay, we'll stay Republican.
	Yes.
	Yeah, I have a couple things.
	First of all, this came in this morning.
	You know, the Morning Joes, Scarborough and the elite daughter, Brzezinski, they are on the inside, and we've been playing clips for a while now where they keep talking about, oh, we all, the reporters, are talking about this.
	When are you going to mention this?
	As if, you know, they love having, I think they love having some kind of control or power or whatever they think it is.
	So when Scarborough talks, I do listen, and this was about Rubio and Christie, and his claim is interesting.
	So there was a lot of talk about Chris Christie yesterday.
	Oh, he's mean, he went after poor Marco, etc., etc., etc., etc.
	What people didn't get, and I know you probably know the backstory, Christie actually was having a great run.
	He was doing well in town hall meetings.
	His numbers were going up.
	And then Marco's team started trashing him in ads.
	And they just started running non-stop ads.
	And then the dark money came in.
	And they started trashing Chris Christie with dark money ads.
	And so all of the positive he was doing one time, home eating at a time, just got completely obliterated.
	And he jumped up.
	He was up at seven, eight, nine, going higher.
	Then, boom, back down to four.
	And so it's...
	I would hope...
	That the people commenting on Christie leaving the race saying he was mean to Marco and that's why he lost, I would hope that they were ignorant and not actually lying to their readers and their viewers, because if you're too ignorant to know that's what happened in New Hampshire, that it was Marco's dirty money, dark money, it was Marco's dark money, and it was his dark money that got Christie down to the 4% where he started attacking Marco.
	Then you shouldn't be covering politics.
	You're lying to your people.
	What do you think he means by dirty money, dark money?
	What am I missing?
	What am I missing that he's talking about?
	I have no idea.
	I didn't know that they...
	I have no idea.
	Dark money.
	Maybe he's talking about drug money.
	And then Joe...
	He's from Florida.
	I mean, anything's possible.
	That's true.
	Joe Klein, who is...
	Now, is he the editor of Time?
	Or is he just...
	I don't think so.
	He was a famous writer who did...
	I think he did one of the couple of famous political books.
	Is he a Republican?
	Democrat?
	I think he's Republican.
	Well, I'm guessing he's Democrat.
	Ah, no.
	No, I don't think so.
	Okay.
	Here was his thoughts on Donald Trump.
	And, you know, Joe Klein is one of these guys in the establishment that, you know, when he gets outraged, I think people, some people tend to listen.
	I tend to clip.
	This is a guy who doesn't know anything except to say evil things about other people.
	He's talking about Trump.
	Yeah, that's a Democrat meme.
	Yeah, wait.
	This was a real victory for him.
	I mean, he came out of Iowa.
	He came here.
	It is a real victory.
	He did attack from every side.
	It's a real victory for him.
	I like how Charlie is pushing back a little bit.
	That's new.
	It is a real victory.
	It's a real victory for him, but I think that we in our business have to be completely honest about this.
	If you vote for Trump, it means you're not paying attention.
	These are low-information voters.
	They are a real threat to this country.
	Another Democrat meme.
	Luckily, Joe Scarbo tapped into that.
	Low-information voters.
	Listen, this is a good exchange.
	They are a real threat to this country.
	So the Trump supporters are low-information voters and a real threat to this country.
	These are low-information voters.
	They are a real threat to this country.
	They are a real threat to our standing in the world.
	I have a hard time.
	I'm criticizing voters and by saying that they're low-information voters.
	I mean, these are American people who have given the chance to make a choice, and they made a choice whether we like it or not.
	I'm sorry.
	I just think that their anger is self-indulgent, and I think that this really is a disaster for the Republican Party.
	It's a disaster for the country.
	Things aren't so bad here.
	Not for you.
	No, not for the elites.
	That guy's rolling in dough, that Joe Klein.
	Now you think he's a Democrat, but then at the end he comes out with this.
	I like Jeb Bush an awful lot.
	He is one of the most substantive people out there.
	Perhaps the most substantive person out there.
	Okay.
	Misdirection.
	Yeah, of course.
	That's misdirection.
	That's what all the Democrats say.
	They want some...
	They want the loser.
	They want a soft, felt toast guy to run against Hillary.
	Bring the loser in.
	Yeah, bring the loser in.
	So they're all...
	No, that's to all Democrat...
	I do want to, since you're talking about Rubio, I do have a clip.
	This was an outrageous, to me, this was one of the most outrageous things I've ever heard.
	This was on ABC. This is the part of the rundown I didn't put in the clip.
	They're going on and on and on.
	I mean, this was the longest, the rundown on ABC, which is the, or I, and I think you've agreed, determined that they're pro-Bush.
	Yeah, of course.
	They're Disney.
	They're Disney-Bush-Florida, Florida-Disney.
	The Disney-Bush connection in Florida.
	And Disney owns ABC, so we've got that loop closed.
	So they do a long thing on the Republicans.
	But then they do this little gimmick.
	This is the guy who is the field reporter, and he says something at the beginning of this small clip that he doesn't substantiate with the clip itself.
	He's goading Rubio to attack Trump.
	And I think, of course, this again is a Jeb Bush strategy, but listen to this clip in its entirety.
	Rubio tells me he's now ready to hit Donald Trump.
	Let's face it, you laid off Trump.
	And my campaign has largely been about avoiding those sorts of inter-Republican fights.
	Now, if there's a policy difference, we'll talk about policy differences.
	But are you gonna go after Donald Trump?
	We're gonna talk about policy differences.
	And look, he is now the frontrunner, okay?
	He is now clearly the frontrunner for the Republican nomination.
	Now, at the beginning of this clip, he says he's going to hit Donald Trump.
	Then he plays this clip where Rubio's backing off.
	He's backing off.
	Yeah, completely.
	This is a piece of crap propaganda that is inexcusable.
	The editors at ABC should not have let this clip play as it was scripted.
	It's misleading because what you do...
	This is a good example of how propaganda works.
	What you do is you introduce a fact...
	Which is, he's going to go after Donald Trump, he's going to hit Donald Trump, he says specifically.
	And then he tells me he's now ready to hit Donald Trump.
	And where in the clip does he actually say anything like that?
	So what you do is you put a premise out there, let the public suck that in, because this is all linear, so you can't go back and re-read it.
	And you go through this as though he's giving evidence when he's giving no evidence.
	All I can tell is that he's goading He's goading Rubio into getting into a fight.
	This is unconscionable.
	Hello, ratings!
	We need ratings.
	Do whatever we can.
	The last event that ABC did, their debate was...
	That's the one with the guy standing in the hallway and people bumping into each other.
	I mean, they suck at this.
	I think they should be embarrassed, by the way, at that last debate.
	That was the worst.
	Rachel Maddow, I can just see it in her face.
	She so despises Brian Williams, and she has to sit there with him and toss back and forth and banter.
	You can just see, he's like, that liar.
	I've never seen the two in the same studio.
	Oh, my God.
	No, they were not in the studio.
	They were in their makeshift studio in New Hampshire.
	But they had to work together.
	But she thinks she's the queen bee of NBC. Exactly.
	And Brian thinks he's the queen bee of MSNBC. I think NBC, not just MSNBC. Oh yeah, this is just his temporary jail.
	He knows he's going to serve a sentence and he'll be out.
	The bastion of truth.
	But here's what she thought about...
	The Republican primary.
	This is the start of it for Donald Trump.
	And the American Republican Party will be in line with the National Front in France and the UK Independence Party in Great Britain and these other types of hard-right European-style nativist movements that before now really have been on the fringe.
	Nativist movements.
	Nice meme.
	I like it, too.
	It's good.
	I had to look it up.
	Well, it's been used many times, apparently, in our election past.
	Nativist.
	Yeah, it goes way back.
	It's like the Know Nothing Party.
	I think they'll bring that one up, too.
	Yeah, the Wee Party, the Know Nothing Party.
	The Copperheads and the Know Nothing Party.
	That will come into play.
	Well, Biden already brought that back.
	But, you know, no one cares about him right now.
	Right now.
	For the time being, at least.
	Yeah, the time being.
	I did like Trump's speech when he won.
	I don't know if you saw any of that.
	I saw some of it.
	It was short.
	Yeah, about 10-15 minutes.
	Bernie Sanders went on for almost an hour.
	Well, here is...
	I figured I'd just play these three short clips from his victory speech.
	This is what gets people riled up.
	I am going to be...
	The greatest jobs president that God ever created.
	Remember that.
	Don't believe those phony numbers when you hear 4.9 and 5% unemployment.
	The number is probably 28, 29, as high as 35.
	In fact, I even heard recently 42%.
	Do you think we'd have gatherings like this if we had 5% unemployment?
	Do you really think we'd have these gatherings?
	Forgetting about security, forgetting about ISIS, which, by the way, we're going to knock the hell out of ISIS. We're going to knock the hell out of him.
	And it's going to be done the right way.
	I like that he's calling out the bogus jobs number.
	That's good.
	Yeah, I don't think he needs to exaggerate it because we look at it on this show every so often.
	20 and 25 percent is...
	It's around 25, maybe a little less.
	It hasn't really dropped much.
	And this is the number we derive it from shadowstats.com.
	The statistician John Williams in San Francisco has been running this little website forever.
	For years, yeah.
	And he looks at real inflation, looks at real job numbers, and he bases his unemployment on what the numbers were.
	The way it was calculated in the 1930s is what he likes to calculate his on.
	Yeah, and the discrepancy in numbers because of the omission of the use of the, what is it called, the participation rate.
	Yeah, if you're not participating.
	In other words, you're not going into the unemployment office and begging for help.
	In other words, you've just sitting at home and you've given up and maybe you look for a job once in a while, but you're not really participating in an official way.
	Then you're not, okay, you're considered employed.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Exactly.
	Here's Donald Trump on the Affordable Health Care Act.
	Remember this about Obamacare.
	People are forgetting.
	But now they're miserable.
	Because it's going up 45%, 35%, 55%.
	It's totally out of control.
	Probably sinks of its own volition in 2017.
	Unless the Republicans give it another...
	I mean, what's going on?
	What's going on?
	The budget.
	Yeah.
	This is things people know and see in their own life.
	You know, the media propagates this stuff, and it doesn't make any sense to them.
	I mean, because the Affordable Health Care Act starts with the word affordable.
	Yeah.
	And everybody who has these insurance policies, which never existed when I was a kid, it's a scam.
	It's an insurance scam.
	It keeps going up and up and up as part of a convoluted mechanism where the pharmaceuticals just jack their prices up.
	The insurance companies do a deal with them, but they have to jack everyone's rates up to pay for these drugs.
	All services at hospitals have gone through the roof, which in the hospitals are privately owned.
	This is an outrageous scam.
	Scam.
	Third and last, something that is also, although it was discussed a lot in the preamble to New Hampshire, I saw a lot of packages running on MSNBC and CNN. It really didn't come up until Trump brought it up in his speech.
	We're going to build a wall.
	It's going to be built.
	It's not even, believe it or not, it's not even a difficult thing to do.
	And by the way, for the people of New Hampshire, where you have a tremendous problem with heroin and drugs, you wouldn't even believe it.
	You see this place and you say it's so beautiful.
	You have a tremendous problem.
	The first thing always that they mention to me, Mr.
	Trump, please do something.
	The drugs, the heroin, it's pouring in and it's so cheap because there's so much of it.
	Right.
	And the kids are getting stuck and other people are getting stuck.
	We're going to end it.
	We're going to end it.
	We're going to end it at the southern border.
	It's going to be over.
	And we're going to work.
	And we're going to work really hard to get those people that are so addicted off the habit.
	We're going to work like hell to take care of the situation.
	It's a huge problem in New Hampshire.
	It's a huge problem all over our country.
	We're going to have borders again, and we're going to work with you people to help you solve that very big problem, and we'll get it done.
	So it's one thing to say, oh, I know my cousin was on drugs or whatever.
	It's another thing to, first of all, equate it to mention the same breath as the wall, which to me sounds like, yeah, we're going to regulate it.
	The drugs will still come in, and the heroin is coming in from Mexico.
	Mexico, this is why it's so cheap.
	But of course, you can't really disassociate the OxyContin and the legal drugs from this problem, but I think this is what people want to hear.
	I find it nothing but understandable that people are following him.
	Yeah, they're going nuts.
	Yeah.
	That's all I have on the Republicans.
	Did you?
	Okay, well, let's move to the Democrats.
	Okay.
	Because there's a couple interesting aspects of this.
	This will be the ABC rundown on the primaries.
	Hillary versus Bernie.
	Meantime, on the Democratic side tonight, we are one-on-one with Bernie Sanders after his major victory over Hillary Clinton by 22 points.
	Here in New York City today, visiting Harlem and since his victory last night, raising more than $5 million in just 24 hours.
	Secretary Clinton here in New York as well, huddling with her team now, conceding she has a lot of work to do, especially among young voters.
	Tonight, ABC's Cecilia Vega asking Bernie Sanders if the next battles in Nevada and South Carolina were held tonight, could he beat Clinton?
	And Cecilia got a very honest answer.
	Today in Harlem, a hero's welcome for Bernie Sanders.
	Hugs from the Reverend Al Sharpton.
	Breakfast at the iconic soul food restaurant Sylvia's.
	That was so beautiful to see the Schwarze and the Jew hugging together on the street.
	It was fabulous.
	Sanders reaching out for African-American support, hoping to build on the momentum from his big win.
	Because of a huge voter turnout, and I say huge, We won.
	Sanders now vowing to take his political revolution forward.
	And now it's on to Nevada, South Carolina, and beyond.
	Woo!
	It's interesting how Bernie has...
	I thought the huge thing was Donald Trump.
	Everyone was attributing that to Trump, and now Bernie's just kind of hijacked it.
	Bernie's not only stolen it, but he has taken it to the level where when he says it, he knows what he's doing.
	Trump says it, just says it.
	He doesn't know he's saying anything funny.
	And so Bernie says it in a funny manner, you know, huge.
	And then the crowd goes crazy, and they all yell huge.
	So it's become a...
	He's stolen the meme and I think it's not going to be attributed to him.
	But they both say it.
	It's pretty funny.
	It's crazy.
	There's so many...
	I have to save the whole Rubio robot.
	You know...
	There's dirty tricks out there.
	The Rubio robot thing, I'm finding it hard to believe that a lot of these are spontaneous.
	The Rubio robot, when I saw that...
	No, the guy, I think it's the guy on Rubio's team, he has a guy who has a company called the Mnemonics...
	It's a company that specializes in this kind of stuff.
	Dirty tricks.
	Well, it's memes.
	Dirty tricks, memes.
	Dirty tricks.
	I didn't think it was that funny, really.
	Oh, the Rubio robot, the Rubio robot, the Rubio robot.
	Why would somebody on Rubio's team do that?
	All the media was talking about the Rubio robot.
	Everyone's repeating themselves.
	It's all the same thing over and over again.
	Oh, Trump for sure.
	Everybody.
	Well, let's listen to the clips that I think are the most interesting of all the clips I've gathered.
	And this is a woman, Arnie Arneson.
	She came on Democracy Now!
	And she was on for a long time.
	I got two clips from her because they're just so common sense.
	She's a Democrat, feminist...
	Old school feminist who somehow has switched her way of thinking.
	Let's start with this one.
	I can hear the disdain in your voice when you describe it.
	No, no.
	These clips are fantastic.
	I thought you might not like her.
	No, I actually, I don't know whether I'd like her or not, but I will have to say this, that she, this is a D.N. Arnie Arneson intro, she is, she really wraps, she's also a talk show person, so she wraps things up rather nicely.
	You have Senator Bernie Sanders trouncing Hillary Clinton, 60 to 38.
	He swept in every category, young people, independents, women.
	The only two categories he didn't sweep in were senior citizens and families that made more than $200,000 per year.
	Arne Arneson, the significance of this Sanders victory.
	First of all, let's also remember that every newspaper in the state, basically a major newspaper endorsed Hillary Clinton.
	Every major elected official endorsed Hillary Clinton.
	This is an earth-shaking moment.
	It basically sends the message that the establishment is out of touch.
	That the leaders are out of touch, that there is a sense of frustration, that people feel not only that they're not being heard, Amy, but that the idea of incremental change doesn't fix it anymore.
	And Bernie's message of campaign finance reform is not actually the term campaign finance reform.
	You know what it is?
	It's code for Wall Street.
	That is the most important thing you need to know.
	That's what that's about.
	Since the economic meltdown of 2008, Americans are angry.
	Both Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders tapped into that anger.
	And not only did they tap into the anger, but they realized who got bailed out?
	They did.
	Who is still running in place?
	They are.
	What's happening with trade deals?
	Our jobs are going overseas.
	It was an amazing turnout, especially in places like the North Country of New Hampshire, which are White, unemployed, for the most part, are underemployed workers that Hillary Clinton used to get.
	That was a place that was a very safe place, in fact, for Republicans and conservatives.
	You saw enormous voter turnout in those places with working people saying no.
	No establishment, you haven't heard us.
	No party structures, you haven't heard us.
	We are ready for the change that Bernie was talking about.
	And I just think, not only did it resonate, but it had to terrify the Democratic National Committee.
	They are out of touch, as well as their chosen leaders.
	Hmm.
	This is a real...
	People should take notice of this because what she just said nailed it.
	And it's on both sides, on both the Republicans and the Democrats.
	That's why Bernie and Trump have a certain kind of similarity, even though they don't like to admit it.
	And this is a slam on the elitist Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who is the one running the show.
	She's the one who's rigging it.
	As we speak, Hillary's already got something like 380...
	She has the superdelegates.
	She has all the superdelegates which are rigged.
	Now, the way I understood it, even though Bernie Sanders had 60% of the vote in New Hampshire and Hillary, you know, 37% or whatever, she has 15 delegates because she has superdelegates and he only has 13.
	Is this true?
	That's what I understand, too.
	No wonder people don't drop out of the process.
	She won New Hampshire.
	She won New Hampshire.
	That's the bottom line.
	And if this isn't going to trigger...
	And why isn't anyone talking about this?
	Why is this not discussed?
	It's underground.
	People are talking about it, but it's all like mumbling talk.
	It's the kind of thing that's going to ruin the Democrat Party.
	If they think they're going to get away with this...
	I think they're making a huge mistake.
	A huge mistake.
	I've noticed something.
	I think we brought it up a couple weeks ago.
	Every single person who...
	Every Democrat I know, they really want Hillary to win, but they can't...
	Bring themselves to say they want Hillary to win.
	They don't want Bernie.
	This is the Obots that I'm seeing here in Austin.
	And they resort to this moneyball type story, which is, well, you know, she's got this and she'll have the superdelegates there and that guy will do this and then the Republicans will screw it up there and then we'll win!
	And they're playing moneyball.
	The delegates, she's so super smart, but they don't want to support her, or at least they're not saying it out loud because you can't do that because she's a douchebag and everybody knows it.
	So they resort to this long diatribe of how the political process is, how they rig it so that Hillary will win or the Democrats will win.
	It's very bizarre.
	Well, good luck with that.
	I mean, they're cheating in her favor, but that gets out eventually.
	If you think about it, there's been two elections and she's already had 380 to 42 or whatever.
	It's outrageous, and I think if anyone was a Democrat listening to this, they should be ashamed of themselves if they're supporting this sort of thing, and those old bots should too.
	Yeah.
	There's no reason for that sort of thing.
	That's not what the public wants.
	They don't want Hillary.
	She should be in jail.
	We also don't want Moneyball.
	That is so...
	What is the word I'm looking for?
	But even seeing this with these superdelegates and how actually Hillary Clinton won New Hampshire, this is disheartening to people.
	They don't understand.
	Well, now Arnie Arneson has this.
	This is the second clip.
	Amy brings up the feminists who came out, Gloria Steinem.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	And Madeline Albright.
	Special place in hell.
	Right.
	You're going to go to hell if you don't vote for Hillary is Albright.
	And the other one, she says, well, it's a boys club to vote for Bernie or something like that.
	She was a douche.
	No, it's worse.
	She actually apologized for it.
	She said, the reason why the young millennial girls are going to Bernie is because that's where the boys are and they want to hang out with the boys.
	Nice one, Glo.
	Yeah, that was a good one.
	If that didn't turn everyone into a Bernie voter, I don't know what did.
	I think this woman, Arneson, talks about being out of touch I think that's the theme.
	I think we can use that theme on this show for the right through the elections.
	Now this out of touch thing, because these guys are like deer in the hell.
	They don't, this is George or Jeb Bush.
	I keep saying George, Jeb Bush with that stupid look on his face all the time.
	And the dumb things he says, please clap.
	He's just, yeah, please clap.
	Uh, He's number one so far as out of touch, and it's so obvious to the public.
	So let's listen to her discuss the women and Hillary and why women should vote for Hillary.
	This is Arneson.
	So there are two things that I need to talk about.
	One, the horrific thing that happened over the weekend with Gloria Steinem and Madeleine Albright, where they said stuff that was just so incredibly offensive and incredibly foolish.
	And Amy, I tweeted out as soon as I heard the comments by Steinem and Albright, I said, oh my God, Hillary Clinton is bringing the worst out of the women I admire.
	That's what I tweeted.
	And more important than that, it's not just the statements that were made that somehow were saying to women, you have an obligation to vote for Hillary Clinton.
	This is your job.
	But I want to remind everyone, in the state of New Hampshire, where Hillary Clinton is running in the first primary, this is a state that has elected women to every single major political office in the state.
	Governor, Congress, Speaker of the House, President of the Senate, head of the New Hampshire Supreme Court.
	We have seen the good, the bad, and the ugly of women.
	We now have experience with that.
	And that in some ways has been liberating.
	So as we were being chastised to vote for Hillary Clinton, we now feel we can step back.
	We can say, you know what?
	This is about the leader of the free world.
	This is about the leader of this country.
	What is wrong with the leadership we've elected in the past?
	Maybe it's time for new leadership.
	And new leadership is not a function of gender.
	To be fair, Albright has said this many times.
	This is one of her phrases that she uses.
	There's a special place in hell for women who don't support women.
	Yeah, I agree.
	It's not like a new thing.
	But they're wrong.
	That is not at all why the millennials are going over to Bernie.
	This is completely dumb, as witnessed by this on-the-bus report from a CNN reporter.
	I'm sitting here with Grace, right?
	Grace, have you ever voted before?
	No, this is my first time.
	And have you decided who you're going to vote for yet?
	Bernie Sanders.
	So Tamron Hall was just saying live on MSNBC that it's interesting that a lot of young women are choosing Bernie Sanders over Hillary Clinton.
	Come on in, man.
	What went into your decision?
	I like his ideas of being a democratic socialist.
	Obviously, the free college aspect is awesome.
	It's awesome.
	The free college aspect is awesome.
	That's it.
	Stop.
	Say no more.
	I think he's also more exciting.
	I think there's more to it than just that.
	Although I say that would be that if you had like that other woman who said, well, I was caught between Hillary and Bernie.
	Yes, they would go with Bernie because of the free college.
	Now, I want to tell all the millennials that listen to the show, we do have quite a few.
	Yeah.
	I got free college when I was a kid.
	Yeah.
	And University of California, one of the top universities in the world, it wasn't totally free.
	It was like $100 or some minor pittance of a fee.
	And I will say this.
	If we could do it back in the day, in fact, ever since I think even in the 30s and 40s and 50s, all that period was always inexpensive for college.
	There were private schools, the private schools you paid for, but the state schools you didn't pay for.
	And it was doable then.
	What changed?
	Why can't we do it now?
	Why does Hillary and the rest of them come out?
	Oh, is he going to break the bank?
	There's no way we can do this.
	We did it before.
	We don't have the gross national product that we...
	We didn't have the gross national product we have today.
	We're huge, huge, huge, huge.
	I can't get that right now.
	You've got to catch me.
	I will.
	It's sad.
	It is sad.
	Now, we could do it before.
	Why can't we do it now?
	And I'll vouch for him on the health care, too.
	And I'm not going for Bernie Sanders, but I'm going to tell you this about the health care.
	He says, oh, the taxes will go up if we have a single payer.
	The taxes will go up, but they won't go up as much as these health care premiums.
	My wife is paying $500 a month.
	That's why I'm paying, too.
	The taxes aren't going to go up...
	You're not paying necessarily $6,000 a year or more in taxes.
	It's ridiculous.
	And it's going to keep going up.
	It's going to keep going up until you...
	Until we just stop the scam.
	We have to stop the scam.
	Yeah, the scam has got to be stopped.
	It's a scam.
	It's just like when Enron was running the power grid in California.
	And we had...
	Yes.
	He had gray outs and brown outs and black outs.
	And Gray Davis, the governor who was actually thrown out of office with a recall vote because he's such a student.
	Oh, yeah, I remember that, yeah.
	He said, oh, well, this is the way it's going to have to be from now on.
	We have to be stuck with this because we have a big state and there's a lot of overhead and we're going to have gray outs and black outs.
	And once the Enron scam was busted because it was a fake deal...
	We haven't had a blackout since.
	What is it?
	Why is it?
	And everybody was all the news media.
	Everybody.
	Local papers.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, we got to just get used to it.
	Got to get used to it.
	They were all in.
	I remember all in.
	Everybody was all in when it was so obviously bullshit.
	There's something else that is under, if not reported at all.
	If you wind up with some bills left over that the insurance didn't cover, then these are $50,000 a day bills.
	I mean, it's crazy.
	It turns out that the insurance companies and hospitals are always in continuous negotiation about the bill.
	And if there's something left over and you get stuck with it, you don't have much relief.
	You're going to have to figure out how to pay for it.
	But the hospitals and medical facilities continuously negotiate, and usually the insurance companies only wind up paying about 30% of every bill.
	Did you know this?
	No.
	I had no idea.
	Yeah.
	They negotiate continuously, and they keep going around and around and around and around, and then they just say, oh, okay, well, the 30 cents on the dollar.
	So it was even worse, because there's all this money that you're paying for, you're paying to cover that, and they're just ultimately not even paying the full amount, not even half.
	This is an outrageous scam.
	Alright, so I want to go back to the previous episode where you had the clip of Hillary Clinton, and we analyzed this probably incorrectly, and I always listen back to the show because I miss lots of stuff you say, unfortunately, because I'm just busy running the Titanic here.
	This is about her Goldman Sachs and other Wall Street speeches, just to revisit the last episode.
	There is this attack that he is putting forth, which really comes down to, you know, anybody who ever took donations or speaking fees from any interest group has to be bought.
	And I just absolutely reject that, Senator.
	And I really don't think these kinds of attacks by insinuation are worthy of you.
	And enough is enough.
	If you've got something to say, say it directly.
	But you will not find that I ever changed a view or a vote because of any donation that I ever received.
	Okay, so we properly identified that she did not mention the speaking fees, only any donation, which we were kind of talking about the Clinton Foundation.
	But in this case, this is the clip that has been played over and over again, and she is avoiding the actual issue.
	I didn't change any vote or my mind, whatever it is based upon a donation.
	Yeah, but how about the speaking fee?
	That's what she didn't answer, but it's being kind of lumped in.
	What are these, what are the, what did she say that could be so damning?
	We go back to the Morning Joe show.
	This is, let me see, who is this guy?
	This is, I'll just call him a Democrat operative who is trying to smooth out whatever is in these, whatever is in these transcripts, which to some are available and there has been some reporting on it.
	You've heard, and there's other reporters that we've talked to that...
	Again, all the inside dish, all the inside info from the Morning Joe.
	Actually, you're looking at the transcripts.
	One reporter said she sounds like a managing director for one of the hedge funds.
	The CEO of a financial firm who sat through one of her paid speeches in 2014 and said actually the speech itself was just about an important decision she had to make as Secretary of State, a lot of it promoting women, nothing controversial.
	What would be problematic, he said for, was that in her introductory remarks she lavished praise on Wall Street, said, you know, you guys are the pillar of our economy.
	The irony, the CEO said, was this is a crowd of Romney voters who are never going to vote for Hillary Clinton.
	It was empty flattery that wasn't going to advance her cause with that crowd.
	Why did she do it?
	What was she trying to get out of that crowd?
	Well, you know, when you're paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to show up and make a speech to people, I think that there's just an impulse to offer some kind of praise of your audience or, you know, something to suggest this isn't just a naked financier.
	It's not an impulse.
	It's an obligation.
	I'm sorry?
	I've done enough speeches to say that it's not an impulse, it's an obligation.
	Right.
	Well, that's going to be the party line.
	Well, she said that just because, you know, just trying to be nice to everybody.
	Here's a Republican strategist.
	I think he was with the Romney campaign.
	Steve Wright, I think his name is.
	And now you can see what the Republicans are planning to do with any transcripts that might surface.
	But they have a really strong team.
	Hey, you know what I've always been wanting to ask you, and now I have you on the show?
	Oops, I'm sorry, that was the wrong clip.
	Hold on, hold on.
	How the hell did that go?
	Here he is.
	This is the one.
	Look at her character defects through the prism of all the money taken in from the Wall Street firms.
	And so now we're going to be going into another chapter here, starting, I suspect, today, demanding the release of the transcripts of the speeches, demanding the release of the question and answer from the speeches.
	And they have disclosure issues like no candidate ever had.
	If you go back to the Romney campaign in 2012, the issue of the release of his taxes, John McCain's campaign in 2008, demands for release of his health records, there has never been a candidate who has faced so many different calls for disclosure of information that could be fatal if it becomes public across this wide, vast spectrum.
	We'll be on the lookout for that.
	It's not as though there's, like...
	I think the guy's exaggerating.
	Oh, yeah.
	But go back to that clip.
	Now, there's something in that clip.
	I thought this was what you were going to talk about, actually, because I remember when I made the clip, there was...
	I had a little trouble with this, but I didn't decide to deconstruct it.
	But she makes a flub.
	Hillary does.
	Yeah, in the clip where she says, if somebody takes the speaker's fee, then they have to be bought...
	I just want you to play that again.
	It's at the very beginning.
	There is this attack that he is putting forth which really comes down to, you know, anybody who ever took donations or speaking fees from any interest group has to be bought.
	What is that?
	If you take money, you has to be bought.
	Or he has to be bought.
	Did she say has or have?
	Let me see.
	She said has.
	Hold on.
	Let me just roll it back a little.
	I just want to hear exactly.
	Does she say has or have?
	Has.
	Has to be bought.
	That's strange.
	Fees from any interest group has to be bought.
	Yeah, you're right.
	Has to be bought.
	So what is this?
	This sentence doesn't even make any sense.
	I mean, what was she trying to say?
	Was this what she wanted to say?
	And it has to be bought.
	I don't think she should have brought that up at all.
	I don't think so either.
	But she did.
	And she said it has to be bought.
	Was it a message?
	Was it like, hey, if I'm going to take your money, you can buy me, but you have to give a little more than the $650,000.
	Was that the implication?
	Subtext?
	She's basically saying, you lowballed me.
	If you want to be bought, you've got to send me more.
	Yeah, $650,000 is not enough.
	Meanwhile, the Hillary Clinton team...
	It was interesting because I sent a note to Jen Briney from Congressional Dish.
	Then I was listening to her show and I said, she has producers and she had very much the value for value format, but she uses the chip in.
	Hey, chip in to help the show.
	I'm like, don't do that.
	That's what Hillary does.
	And she was very cute.
	She said, well, I wouldn't want to do anything that Hillary does.
	I haven't thought that.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's rude.
	It diminishes the work.
	And Hillary's always about, chip in a dollar.
	Chip it in.
	Yeah, she'd been inundating me.
	And this new guy, this new guy sends the notes out.
	This guy's named Mook.
	I saw the MOOC mail.
	The MOOC mail.
	So MOOC comes in and says, they kicked our ass in New Hampshire because of you.
	You didn't give us enough money.
	Send a dollar.
	Chip in.
	Chip in.
	This is a communications blunder.
	As far as I'm concerned.
	I think that her message, I think that her solicitation letters, which come daily, sometimes two or three times a day, from her, from Bill, from Chelsea, they all have the exact same, here's the problems, I'm going to just tell anybody, these young marketers out there, one, they all have the exact same voice.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	They all have the exact same voice.
	And I think it's this mook guy.
	Whoever's voice it is, they got one letter writer.
	They don't make any adjustment for voice.
	They don't sound like Hillary.
	They don't sound like anybody.
	They sound like some guy telling you to send them a dollar.
	They're very offensive.
	I think they're very offensive.
	I agree.
	And whoever is running the ship there is out of control.
	There are so many different spokesholes for Hillary.
	I haven't seen the same one twice almost.
	This is a...
	Karen Finney, and they're all really uptight.
	And so Karen Finney's getting raked over the coals over the remarks by Steinem and Albright.
	And here's their response.
	This should be a top-notch political campaign that's running.
	Here's how they address that.
	Things are getting quite interesting.
	Over the weekend, for example, Gloria Steinem said younger women are supporting Clinton because that's where the boys are.
	So Steinem later apologized for that remark.
	But she also had former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright.
	She said there's a special place in hell for women who don't help each other.
	You know, younger women don't like to be patronized.
	Are these comments hurting?
	Well, look, both of these women have been first in their careers, and obviously they have strong feelings.
	I've heard former Secretary Albright talk about that a number of times before.
	They have very strong feelings about it, but I just want you to point out, I mean, these are two women, obviously they're supporting Hillary, but, you know, We can't control what they say, obviously.
	But you can disavow what they say, Karen.
	You can disavow what they say, because they seem to be pitting the older generation of women against the younger, and that's never a good thing.
	Okay, so what would the Curry-Dvorak Consulting Group recommend in this case?
	Well, first of all, before we do that, I want to wonder if there was some subtext neuro-linguistic programming going on with the way that was presented to the woman when she said they were supporting Clinton because that's where the boys are.
	Right.
	That's what Steinem said.
	No, she didn't.
	She said they were supporting Sanders.
	Oh, shoot.
	I'm sorry.
	You're right.
	Oh.
	Wow.
	Good catch.
	So what was the point of mixing that up?
	Was it on purpose or was it just a flub?
	And if it was a flub, how come somebody didn't say something?
	You know, it's CarolCNN, Facebook.com slash CarolCNN.
	I think she just messed it up.
	I can't read too much into it.
	But what would you recommend?
	Should they disavow it?
	What would the strategy be?
	Because the strategy of what they're doing is next.
	I just wondered if you had any thoughts.
	Well, they haven't found a strategy for dealing with young millennials at all, women or men.
	And the women thing has got to have this concern because they were banking on Hillary getting in on a female vote.
	On the women, yeah.
	Well, here's the strategy they took, frankly.
	Well, but Carol, I would put this to you.
	Then I would like to see the Senator Sanders campaign disavow comments that Ben Jealous has been making since he endorsed Senator Sanders.
	Specifically, I'm talking about Saturday in South Carolina.
	Horrendous comments and misinformation about Hillary Clinton's record on criminal justice reform and the death penalty without recognizing or acknowledging that Senator Sanders actually voted to expand the death penalty at the federal level when he voted for the 1994 crime bill.
	What?
	What?
	Who's this Vangelis?
	Is that the musician?
	That's pretty obscure.
	Okay, if the consulting company were taking this on, I think the way the spokeshole should have handled it was, well, these people, she did say that we can't control what they're, we can't stop them from talking.
	Right.
	But we would like to tell them that this is not helping people.
	In other words, I'd run a guilt trip on these people.
	Very good.
	And I would say this.
	I'd hate to do it, because the women won't do it, because they won't do it against their fellow women.
	But if she said, this is not helping, and I'm actually wondering what they're up to, because this is not helping, and I don't know if they're even really supporting her.
	This is all negative.
	This is not good for us.
	I don't even know why Madeleine Albright doesn't come out and say something, because she has only to benefit...
	If Hillary Clinton becomes president, because her consulting group there, which runs the Balkans, the Baltics, and God knows what else, they only stand to gain tremendous sums of money and big contracts and advisory roles.
	Well, I mean, I think she's really...
	This, again, takes us back to the out-of-touch theme.
	Right.
	I think the two women, those two women, are so out of touch.
	And Albright in particular.
	She's a multi-millionaire consultant.
	She's high up in the government.
	She lives in Washington, D.C. in a fancy place.
	Or nearby.
	And she says this old adage, like you pointed out.
	She said it before.
	It's nothing new with her.
	She brings it up again in a political context because she does want Hillary to win because you said the big contracts.
	But she's so stupid.
	That she actually hurts the campaign.
	And this has to be true.
	This is the message I think that the Clinton campaign has to give to these so-called supporters.
	You know, you're hurting the campaign doing this sort of thing.
	You should be thinking more and talking less.
	Oh, hell yeah.
	They should scold them.
	That would be Debbie Wasserman Schultz's job.
	Well, I know what Debbie Wasserman Schultz is going to be doing.
	And I know what the Democrats are thinking.
	And I got a hand at Donald Trump.
	He's right.
	This is exactly what's going to happen.
	This is Democrat operative Jennifer Granholm.
	I have no idea why she's on television.
	But they have a really strong team.
	Hey, you know what I've always been wanting to ask you, and now I have you on the show?
	You were born in Canada.
	I was.
	So what do you think of this whole Ted Cruz?
	What's up with that?
	What do you think of this whole Ted Cruz?
	I guess you weren't born to an American mother.
	My parents were legit Canadians, both of them.
	Is Ted Cruz an American citizen, do you think?
	A natural born American?
	I think he is.
	I think if it went into a court, it would say yes.
	But there is that question.
	So in this sense, this is the only time I'll ever say I agree with Donald Trump in this sense, that I think he should get a declaratory judgment.
	I think he should act.
	What?
	Yeah.
	This is the only time I'll agree with Donald Trump, but I think Ted Cruz should get a declaratory statement.
	So Trump was right.
	He was right.
	Yes.
	I know.
	Wow.
	Yeah, he was right.
	Granholm is a jerk.
	If I'm not mistaken, let me look her up on...
	Let's take a look at the Book of Knowledge for a second.
	Oh, we need to...
	I have to make sure...
	Consult the Book of Knowledge!
	She was on...
	That was with Jake Tapper on the CNNs.
	She's on a lot of stuff.
	She wants to be...
	She's kind of attractive enough for television.
	Yep, I agree.
	And she wants to be a television person.
	Is the first name Jane?
	Jennifer.
	Jennifer.
	Ah, okay.
	There it is.
	She's cute.
	Canadian-born, yeah.
	She has that pixie look of a TV person, so she's kind of cute.
	Yeah, she was the 47th governor of the state of Michigan, one of the people, a Democrat, totally responsible for ruining Michigan.
	Ruining Michigan.
	She is the destructive force that ruined Michigan, one of many.
	Perfect.
	And, you know, she doesn't talk about that much.
	Of course, she's from Berkeley.
	Right.
	Oh, that explains it.
	Well, that explains something.
	And...
	Yeah, that's her.
	And she's always, she shows up everywhere.
	She's always mouthing off.
	She's a rock-solid Democrat.
	So amidst all of this, I already mentioned her.
	I was listening to The Congressional Dish.
	And Briney did this, did an episode, which was rather interesting.
	She covered all 50 states, how to get on the ballot to run for Congress.
	It's a lot easier than you think, although not in California, but in Texas...
	Yeah, it's very easy in most states.
	In Texas, you only need 500 votes to run as an independent, and you need to file 30 days after the runoff, which I think is May 6th here in Texas.
	My district is district number 21.
	Which has been governed since 1987 by Lamar Smith.
	So you don't really need a lot of money.
	And Jennifer's premise was, hey, this is the internet.
	People should be able to get elected by using the internet.
	You shouldn't need television commercials, etc., etc.
	Yeah, well, my wife proved that wrong, but that's another story.
	But I'm interested.
	I think you should be.
	In fact, I would recommend everybody who listens to the show.
	I'll tell you my thoughts, my full thoughts.
	Just think about a campaign.
	Now, first of all, I really am not looking for extra work.
	All I want to do is represent the people in my district, and I guess I have to go to Washington to vote.
	But think of all the elements we have.
	We have the best advisors.
	Wait for it.
	We have the best advisors.
	We have the airstream of consciousness.
	Talk about your media vehicle right there.
	To go through the entire state and talk to all the constituents.
	You don't have to go through the state.
	You have to go through the district.
	Yeah, but you want it.
	Yeah, okay.
	We would just continue to do the show.
	What's the district number again?
	21.
	Lamar Smith, who, you know, this is a legend.
	And the people running against him?
	Eh, morons.
	There's like three people who have already registered to run against him, including one Democrat, hopeless.
	Let me see, what are these guys' names?
	Oh, this guy.
	Here, Matt McCall.
	Matt McCall is the first guy.
	And he tried last time and didn't make it.
	Yeah, and they all have the same websites, the same douchey stuff.
	Yeah.
	Like, blah, blah, blah.
	Hey, listen, I actually represent the people living in this district.
	You know, downtown Austin, out towards the Dripping Springs.
	It's an interesting district.
	Because it kind of follows the Google Fiber path, which I think is good.
	I wouldn't get San Antonio.
	But I think I should just...
	Don't you think we should just do it?
	I mean, what do you need?
	What party are you going to run under?
	Independent.
	Not a party, just an independent.
	I think that's the way to go.
	Yeah.
	We have people who are professional organizers, professional writers, professional video makers.
	I shouldn't really have to leave home.
	You won't win.
	Thanks for your courage.
	No, thanks for my courage.
	You won't win.
	Why not?
	No, the line is, thanks for your encouragement.
	No, no, no.
	I was thanking you for your courage, believe me.
	I meant it.
	Not that I don't think you should win.
	There's a number of things.
	You are working...
	The problem is with these local districts, these little parties, it's not even Lamar Smith that's winning.
	There are machines in place.
	Mechanisms that are run by the parties that get out a certain X number of votes that you have to overcome.
	You have to overcome.
	And those votes are a good portion of the...
	Combine the Democrat and the Republicans.
	There's probably not that many Democrats if the Republicans have been in that long.
	But...
	The machines account for so much of the vote, just automatically, that you can't get enough votes to win, even though you might be the most popular person.
	Winning against the machine is the problem.
	It's not beating Lamar.
	Okay.
	I would think that we could...
	I don't say it's insurmountable.
	We could try ourselves.
	I think you're going to...
	Let me give the encouragement side.
	You could win, but you're going to have to run two or three times.
	It doesn't matter to me.
	First of all, we need 500 votes.
	If anyone wants to help, then coordinate in Austin.
	I'll go out and I'll drive around.
	We'll go get the 500 votes.
	But we need slogans, we need jingles.
	You have to dig into Smith's back.
	We have to look at him a little closer.
	Don't worry, we'll find his gay connection.
	That's easy.
	He's a Republican, so you get that.
	We'll find the gay boys he's been bashing.
	Smashing, I should say.
	We'll find something on it.
	We'll find some dirt.
	We went to Yale Southern Methodist.
	He's an Episcopalian, which means he's going to get all the Episcopals.
	You have an advantage.
	If you become a Baptist, I think you might have a shot at this.
	No, I'm not.
	He's the elitist Episcopal.
	I'm not going to change who I am.
	It's not going to happen.
	No.
	No.
	But we have...
	Our producers are so much better than these jabronis running all this other stuff.
	And quite honestly, I don't care.
	We just need to win on votes.
	That's all.
	I think it's possible.
	You know, the median age of the constituents in District 21 is in the 34 to 54 range.
	That's really the peak.
	Yeah, he's 68.
	No, no, no.
	He's 70-something.
	No, he's not.
	He was born in 1947.
	He's 68.
	I'm sorry, I'm confused with someone else.
	Well, so he's young enough, I guess.
	But I'm younger.
	And I got the MTV thing going on.
	Oh, you're a good-looking man.
	I'm a good-looking guy.
	I've got a wholesome girlfriend.
	You believe in flying saucers.
	I almost choked on that one.
	About what, the girlfriend?
	The wholesome girlfriend.
	Wholesome, yeah, you're wholesome.
	She has great camera presence.
	You know, we'll look dynamite.
	It'll be great.
	Yeah, she's photogenic.
	That's a plus.
	Yeah, she's, you know, she did.
	He'll look good as a couple.
	We'll look great.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Out of wedlock relationship in Texas, that's going to go over.
	You have to get married.
	You are confused about Texas, particularly District 21.
	No, I'm not confused about Texas.
	I'm confused about Austin, maybe.
	Well, if you look at District 21, Dripping Springs, that's all new people coming into the state.
	You can do a lot with Dripping Springs.
	Yeah, there's a lot of money there.
	I don't want any money.
	I don't want money.
	You shouldn't need any money.
	Okay.
	Well, I think you should do it.
	It's a good experience and it will give us more material for the show.
	Well, this was my ultimate point.
	Could you imagine if by some, somehow, I was elected to Congress and we would just be discussing whatever the vote was.
	You know, we'd do stuff like, I don't know, crazy stuff like read the bill.
	You know, we'd get, everyone would pitch in.
	We'd just do the show, basically.
	It's the same.
	We wouldn't change anything.
	Do you have to go to Washington all the time?
	Yes, to vote.
	How many votes are there?
	Thousands?
	Thousands and thousands?
	They take a lot of time off, weekends and stuff like that.
	And you've got a budget for travel and you have a staff.
	The problem is they won't let you vote from your office in Austin.
	Most of these guys have an office in Austin besides their house.
	And they go there just for campaign purposes.
	They really don't spend that much.
	Because I can skip a lot of the votes.
	A lot of those votes aren't important.
	Well, then the next guy comes along and says, this guy doesn't even vote.
	Yeah, that's right.
	And I'll say, yeah, that's right.
	It's dumb.
	It's not important.
	If you're a good communicator, you can get away with that.
	So, are you in?
	Would you want to help run the campaign?
	I'll be your campaign manager.
	Yeah, that's what I was looking.
	I had my first endorsement!
	Campaign manager tends to endorse the guy who's working for sure.
	Yeah.
	Well, this is an endorsement.
	Your first endorsement is Tina the Keeper.
	She said she would vote for me.
	Yeah, but you never know.
	It was just an idea.
	It's really easy.
	If anyone's interested, I'm open to giving it a shot.
	I really am.
	And I think it would be dynamite for the show.
	We'd learn a lot about how things work.
	We make fun of a lot of people.
	I'm going to give you some incentive.
	Incentive.
	Okay.
	I'm going to give you an incentive.
	And I'm going to give this incentive to everybody who's listening.
	I want everyone out there who listens to No Agenda regularly, and there's thousands of you, to think about running for office like this, like what Adam's all jacked up about.
	Especially for Congress.
	If you're in Congress, and I could be wrong about this, but I did some research and I don't think I am.
	And it's slightly different if you're older.
	But if you're a normal 50-year-old person and you get reelected once to the House of Representatives, you have a lifetime pension.
	And lifetime health care.
	So you're bitching about your $500 a month, you get lifetime healthcare free.
	The pension is full salary for the rest of your life.
	And the salary is like $174,000.
	Yes!
	No, it's $174,000.
	For Congress?
	Yes, sir.
	Okay, you get that for the rest of your life.
	The full amount?
	You get elected, and I believe this is true, if you're over 65 and you get elected, you get elected once.
	You don't have to get elected twice to get this pension.
	So I could go do this.
	I'm not afraid to lose, let's put it that way.
	And I think that there's enough people here.
	I said, look, Austin is mainly downtown Austin, which is, you know, there's a lot of people here.
	It's not the douchebag part.
	That's what's interesting.
	That belongs to the McCall guy.
	It's crazy.
	So District 10 is next to District 21.
	District 10 has the new part where the JW Marriott is and the new convention center and all this stuff.
	So that's where McCall is, the douchebag.
	So you're not in a douchebag?
	No, I have the older downtown Austin crew who are all going to be, yeah, because my slogan will be, no douchebags in Texas.
	Okay.
	And with that...
	I'm interested.
	I'm very interested.
	Well, with that, obviously, the only thing I can now say is thank you for your courage and passion.
	And in the morning to you, John C., where the C stands for Campaign Manager Dvorak.
	Well, in the morning to you, Adam Curry.
	In the morning, all ships and sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
	Woo!
	In the morning, everybody, in the chat room.
	Woo!
	No AgendaStream.com, you're hereby recruited to run on the campaign.
	Thank you to our artists.
	Now, the artists we need to thank today is 21Bull for bringing us the art for episode 797.
	And we need to discuss, we can do that now or later if you want.
	I had a call with Apple about the artwork for episode 800.
	Yes.
	Can we do that briefly?
	Yes.
	Yeah, let's talk about it.
	Okay.
	So, of course, I talked to Boggs.
	He's the global guy of the podcast.
	And so, of course, he sends his guy Steve, who now is going to talk to me about the artwork.
	Boy, I remembered why we do this independent.
	Yeah.
	There's a style guide, or a guide, I should say, with dimensions, etc., and what you cannot put in the artwork that is linked in the show notes, so you should take a look at that, anyone who's interested.
	Now, here's what I learned.
	Because, of course, we're looking at this from our perspective of, hey, it's great to be highlighted, 800 episodes.
	Hey, it's more a testament to the producers who have done all this.
	So besides the obvious, no swastika, no guns, no pills, no drugs, no evil, no nuts.
	So pretty bland.
	But also, they really don't want us to put an episode number on it.
	And the reasoning is that...
	Do you want to make this the evergreen cover?
	That's kind of what it seems like.
	The reasoning was solid.
	They have done this before.
	And he said, whenever we put something with like a Jubilee type episode, people don't click on it.
	Because they're like, ah, too many episodes.
	I don't want to get invested.
	I'm behind.
	That's good knowledge to have.
	I hadn't realized that.
	I don't think we're expecting a lot of new people to come on board necessarily.
	Necessarily.
	It's always nice.
	But that has to be taken into account.
	And they're pretty adamant.
	Like, just don't put a number on it.
	Okay, so we need...
	Okay, here is what I'm thinking immediately before we go any further.
	We need two cover arts.
	I would say three.
	And even better, we need them by Monday.
	Because they have a huge ramp-up period.
	And it won't be on until the 21st.
	What we need is an evergreen cover.
	We probably already have that, by the way.
	Not in the dimensions that are needed.
	It has to be a huge size.
	Huge!
	Huge.
	Huge size.
	Yeah.
	Oh, what size?
	I'll have to look.
	It's going to be in the show notes.
	I don't know offhand.
	Wait, maybe I have it here.
	Hold on.
	What is this?
	No, I don't have it offhand.
	I will find it.
	It'll be in the show notes.
	No, it has to be much bigger.
	Okay, so we'll get somebody...
	And it gets worse?
	No bylines, no subtext, no slogans on the artwork, but we can give them one which they'd be happy to place underneath the artwork.
	So...
	All it can say is no agenda.
	No, it can be a beautiful piece of art as long as you don't put anything controversial in it.
	You can't put with Dvorak and Curry?
	Yes, of course.
	That's not controversial.
	But you can't put the 800 number in it?
	I don't have an 800 number.
	Oh, you're talking about the show number.
	Yes, the show number.
	1-800, no agenda.
	No, you can't know.
	Let me tell you something else.
	I showed him the art generator.
	He was like, holy crap, this is unbelievable.
	I said, yeah, thank you, I know.
	I said, well, one of our favorites is the pinball machine.
	Yes, that's a good one.
	Objection.
	Yeah, it would be a problem because of the logos of CBS, ABC, NBC. Oh, yeah.
	Okay, that's true.
	I agree.
	So, I remember all this stuff from mainstream.
	Like, oh, God.
	Yeah.
	I've forgotten about it.
	Welcome back.
	Yeah.
	So, the swastika and Nazi flags are out?
	He said, yeah, they're out.
	What about the ISIS flag?
	No, no.
	Definitely no ISIS flag.
	I should have asked him.
	No.
	No ISIS flag.
	Let me see.
	So no finger, no ISIS flag, no swastika, no hammer and sickle I'm sure is out.
	No, not good.
	No mocking Kim Jong-un.
	No, no.
	No, we just get a good evergreen piece at the right size.
	We'll get about four.
	We won't get a lot.
	We'll get about four or five of those and we'll pick one of them.
	If nothing else, we can do one for ourselves.
	The specs, it's a 17 megabyte zip file.
	You download it.
	Zip.
	Yeah.
	And that gives you the dimensions, gives you the safe spaces, because it has to be oblong because it can be at the top.
	So it's kind of like a banner more than a piece of art.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	All right, well, we'll do that special, and then we'll do a regular piece of art for the true show.
	Of course.
	Of course.
	That's actually going to be show 802 or something.
	Of course.
	There you go.
	Yeah, so...
	Okay.
	It's not insurmountable.
	It's just one of the things.
	We've been through this before.
	And since you can't upload that to the art generator, you're going to have to put it on Dropbox or something, send us a link, just to make it a little more complicated.
	Yes.
	But we have artists that can do this.
	We have pros.
	We have amateurs who do pro work.
	That actually make the living doing this sort of thing.
	So we look forward to that.
	We're very happy, obviously, that we're going to be highlighted.
	And I think it's just...
	Good.
	It is funny.
	Okay, we do have some people to thank for show 798.
	We've got two shows left at show 800.
	We also have Valentine's Day coming up.
	Of course, nobody took advantage of the Valentine's Day offer.
	I don't think anyone likes their mates.
	I don't think anyone who listens to the show has a relationship anymore.
	Yeah, it's horrible.
	I'm sorry.
	Let's start with a few people, and starting with Frank, who saved the show.
	Frank saved the show.
	Yes, the Baron of Stonnington.
	Yeah, the Baron of Stonnington, Sir Frank.
	And Armendale, Victoria, Australia.
	So an Aussie, an Aussie.
	Top all the Americans and Brits and everybody in between.
	With a great number.
	It's 56789, one of my favorites.
	Beautiful.
	And he writes in, hello, and he's got a birthday or something coming up.
	Hello, Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	Greetings once again from Down Under.
	Time for another major contribution beyond my existing $11.11 monthly.
	The show continues to be both wonderfully entertaining and educational, loving the latest Broadway production of Who Wants the White House?
	2016 version.
	The actors are amazing, although I understand you refer to them as politicians.
	Not even Netflix can come up with such an original storyline.
	Keep up the great work as always.
	And shout out to my son, Rohan, who has his birthday today on the 11th of February.
	And to my amazing wife, Michelle, who has her birthday on Saturday the 13th.
	Oh, beautiful.
	And a double.
	Yep.
	You got both of them on there?
	I think so.
	I'll double check.
	Mmm...
	I believe so.
	We have quite a list of birthdays, so it's...
	Yeah, got it.
	On the list.
	And Michelle.
	Karma for everybody.
	Just a karma jingle would be great.
	Yours in servitude, Sir Frank, Baron of Stonington.
	You've got karma.
	There you go.
	And his wife, Michelle, is on the list.
	Beautiful.
	Followed by David Killian in Clinton, Illinois, 333.
	No note from him.
	That came in as a bank check.
	Vincent Farrell in Burlingame, California.
	We dropped right down immediately, by the way, to associate executive producer with Vincent Farrell over here in Burlingame.
	I can waive $260.
	I want to thank him.
	Again, it came in through the bank.
	Gregory McGregor in Madrid, Spain, $222.
	And he has a note.
	And he's got a birthday thing coming up, too.
	Dear John and Adam, thank you for your stellar show.
	In anticipation of show 800, I'm donating the equivalent of 800 euro quarters.
	Yay!
	Beautiful.
	222.
	222.
	Yeah.
	Is 113 the exchange rate?
	It's gone up a little bit.
	113, I think.
	Well, yes, it did go up.
	It went up, yeah.
	It's kind of annoying.
	Yeah.
	I'm donating the equivalent of 800 euro quarters in exchange.
	I'd like a healthy dose of MBA admission karma.
	You got it.
	If I'm lucky and get in, I'll be investing roughly 60 knighthoods in becoming a wiser slave.
	Wow.
	60 knighthoods is good.
	Please add me to your birthday list for February 13th.
	He turns 32.
	Give a call out to all the Spanish listeners who haven't donated yet.
	This is a lot to have.
	And he tells them to show some cojones.
	That's right.
	Keep up the great work and thank you for your courage.
	Gregory McGregor from Madrid.
	Yes.
	MBA admission karma coming your way.
	You've got karma.
	Bam!
	Drop the karma.
	Now we move on to Sir Richard Moffitt.
	He sends a regular donation.
	He handwrites a check and says hi, and that's all he needs.
	$201.14.
	Nicholas McFall in Herndon, Virginia, $200.
	And he'll conclude our associate executive producers for today.
	Light today, for some reason.
	Gentlemen, this is my first donation of 2016.
	Sorry for the delay.
	The show has been outstanding.
	I'd like a Can the Bitch Lead podcast.
	Can the bitch...
	Yeah, yeah, I have it.
	I know, that's whoopee.
	That's whoopee, yeah.
	L Sharpton of Choice, which is the mucho one, I think.
	And Karma, please keep up the good work.
	I'm sorry, what do you mean the mucho one?
	You know, we much...
	Oh, you mean resist?
	Resist, we much.
	Resist, yeah, okay.
	Keep up the good work, and here's 800 more shows.
	Thanks, Sir Nick of the South Side.
	Can this bitch run the country?
	But resist, we much.
	We must and we will much about that be committed.
	Thanks, Al.
	And that concludes our little segment here.
	Whoa, that's short.
	Very short.
	We do a show coming up on Sunday.
	We want to remind people, Dvorak.org slash NA. We have the...
	Sunday is Valentine's Day, so we do have an offer of $214.16 if you want to get a call out.
	Cheap.
	We also have show 800 on Thursday, so this will be your last shot at getting a double executive producer's donation in before that show happens.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. We also have the No Agenda Mile High Club website is up and running at milehigh.noagendanotes.com.
	That will also be listed in the show notes.
	It's very possible we missed you.
	So if you're missing something or something's misspelled, you want to change, just shoot me an email and we'll fix that.
	But we got it up.
	Yeah, thank you.
	Thank you.
	Well, I couldn't find John's email address.
	Gee, how hard is that?
	John at Dvorak.org.
	I've also been experimenting with a list serve.
	I don't know if you saw that.
	I did not.
	Yeah, I tweeted only once about a week ago just to see how it would work.
	I love those old list serve systems.
	You know, where you send in an email and then everyone gets the email on the list and you can make it, you get a digest.
	How big is it?
	I did one tweet and we have, I think, 150 people on it now.
	And the signal to noise is pretty good.
	You're using it for Twitter?
	I promoted it through Twitter once.
	And, you know, there's a form that you sign up at.
	If you want to, I just want to know if you like the idea.
	We'll talk about it later.
	Yeah.
	Because I don't want to confuse...
	We got tech news today.
	Oh, God.
	All right.
	Thank you all very much for your support of the program.
	Our executive producer and associate executive producers are the ones who carry a lot of the weight for the program.
	We love thanking them and, of course, thanking everybody later on for their...
	in the full-on donation segment.
	These credits are real credits.
	You can use them wherever credits are valid.
	And if anyone says, ooh, that's not greedy, we'll vouch for you.
	We will vouch for you.
	I'm sure you already did this during your Super Bowl festivities, but please continue to propagate the formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Hey, citizens.
	Shut up, slave.
	Shut up, slave.
	Yeah, we got a lot of stuff we could feed into tech news, actually.
	I'm sorry?
	We have a lot of stuff we could fit into tech news, now that I'm thinking about it.
	Oh, you got tech news too?
	Yeah, I got a couple things.
	I mean, if you want to do it now, I mean...
	Let's do it now.
	Let's get it out of the way.
	I should queue up these tech news things.
	I should probably have them in my...
	We don't do it quite often enough to have it set to go.
	It's fine.
	I don't think we should do it often enough.
	We should do it like once a month, maybe.
	Tech news?
	Tedious.
	What do you mean it's tedious?
	Tech News is great.
	Alright, so what you got?
	Oh, you want the jingle.
	That's what you're waiting for.
	What's your 30-minute stuff on that?
	iPhone Schmeyphone.
	The way I see it, the only good phone is a landline, and the phone should be made out of Bakelite.
	That's right, everybody.
	It's for the Tech Horny.
	We got the real tech news here.
	We take it over to John C. Let's start with this one.
	This is James Clapper is an idiot.
	U.S. Director of National Intelligence James Clapper has acknowledged for the first time government agencies might use a range of home devices connected to the Internet in order to conduct spying.
	Clapper's comments relate to the so-called Internet of Things, an array of web-connected devices from kids' toys to smart TVs and remotely operated thermostats.
	In testimony submitted to the Senate, Clapper said widespread vulnerabilities in the devices represent, quote, new opportunities for our own intelligence services.
	I'm glad you brought this up.
	Because several people emailed me, and I think it stemmed from a Guardian article.
	And the way it was positioned, also, Democracy Now!
	also did say it properly.
	You get the idea that the guy said this in his testimony.
	Well, he did not.
	He didn't say this at all.
	In fact, he said something quite the opposite.
	Because I went through...
	There were two.
	There were two sessions.
	Total six hours.
	I watched this crap.
	And really nothing came out of it.
	But then when I figured out...
	I was like, where is this piece?
	Where is this piece about using Internet of Things to spy on people?
	It's not there.
	And the way I felt...
	The way it came across to me is...
	The Guardian, who as far as I know broke this story, so far as far as I could track this, put this out there kind of as a distraction because when you think about the differences between his remarks as delivered and his remarks as written, the difference is un-effing believable.
	So my understanding is, and I didn't get it from the Guardian, I have a link in the newsletter, which is to a different source.
	And that further links, which computer world, I got it from the computer world to somebody that actually could maybe talk about the systems intelligently.
	They link to the PDF where it's found.
	Okay, so I read the whole PDF. I read his comments as submitted, and I was astounded because the true nature of what he's saying goes much further than anything he said in Congress.
	The PDF is submitted to the Congress for them to read thoroughly.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That would be my point.
	Here are his remarks as delivered regarding Internet of Things.
	This is the only time it was brought up.
	With that preface, I want to briefly comment on both technology and cyber.
	Technological innovation during the next few years will have an even more significant impact on our way of life.
	This innovation is central to our economic prosperity, but it will bring new security vulnerabilities.
	The Internet of Things will connect tens of billions of new physical devices that could be exploited.
	Artificial intelligence will enable computers to make autonomous decisions about data and physical systems and potentially disrupt labor markets.
	Russia and China continue to have the most sophisticated cyber programs.
	China continues cyber espionage against the United States.
	Whether China's commitment last September moderates its economic espionage remains to be seen.
	Iran and North Korea continue to conduct cyber espionage as they enhance their attack capabilities.
	Non-state actors also pose cyber threats.
	ISIL has used cyber to its great advantage, not only for recruitment and propaganda, but also to hack and release sensitive information about US military personnel.
	As a non-state actor, ISIL displays unprecedented online proficiency.
	Cyber criminals remain the most pervasive cyber threat to the U.S. financial sector.
	They use cyber to conduct theft, extortion, and other criminal activities.
	Having watched all six hours, that pretty much was the extent of what he said about cyber and technology in a security framework.
	Even though Feinstein, Finkel the fucking Feinstein, set him up with this question, which Warren's listening to, and he didn't really address her questions, although, of course, we're sure that she read his submitted testimony.
	And ISIL has the ability to spread its message of hate and violence around the world using social media in a very sophisticated way.
	Very sophisticated.
	Let me see, how do we do this?
	Click, tweet.
	So sophisticated.
	Director Clapper, I've read your written comments and I'm very much interested in your assessment of these global threats, their status today, and the outlook for the future.
	Now listen to this, John.
	I'd also ask you to comment on how the intelligence community is positioned to address these threats.
	Is it better today than it was, let's say, five years ago?
	For instance, while the coalition's air campaign is helping to deny ISIL some territorial safe havens and financial resources, how do we degrade it and destroy it if all they need to carry out an attack in the West is an Internet connection and an encrypted message application?
	Okay.
	Is that the understanding she has?
	That all they need is...
	What did she say exactly?
	An internet connection.
	And an encrypted app.
	Then you can create an attack.
	And financial resources.
	Huh?
	Magic.
	How do we degrade it and destroy it if all they need to carry out an attack in the West is an internet connection and an encrypted message application?
	Okay.
	That's all you need for an attack, John.
	It just happens.
	That's all you need for an attack.
	Because you can encrypt yourself from the desert, fly through the wires, come out, and then initiate your attack.
	I'd like to hear your assessments of how the rise of end-to-end encryption has impacted our nation's ability to identify and track individuals who seek to do us harm.
	Director Comey has spoken of this concern often.
	Director Rogers recently highlighted it as well.
	I'm interested in your views today about its impact and how you recommend we tackle this problem of terrorists and criminals communicating via these encrypted message applications. - Wait, who?
	We're briefer on this bullcrap.
	This is my point, John.
	These are the people running the show.
	This is why I need to be in Congress.
	The U.S. Freedom Act that passed last year eliminated the bulk collection of telephone communications metadata.
	And the new law now requires specific queries with FISA court approval to individual telecommunications.
	He's reading from a script.
	Yes, he is.
	Alright, I'll stop her there.
	Comey did say he had something interesting, but I would just like to go through a few of the highlights of Clapper's submitted testimony, specifically about the Internet of Things.
	I'd just like to read it, because no one read the whole thing.
	No one certainly didn't tell their viewers or listeners what he said.
	Smart devices incorporated into the electric grid vehicles, including autonomous vehicles, and household appliances are improving efficiency, energy conservation, and convenience.
	However, security industry analysts have demonstrated that many of these new systems can threaten data privacy, data integrity, or continuity of services.
	In the future, intelligence services might use the Internet of Things for identification, surveillance, monitoring, location tracking, and targeting for recruitment or to gain access to networks or user credentials.
	Then there's a piece on increased reliance of artificial intelligence for autonomous decision-making.
	However, AI systems are susceptible to a range of disruptive and deceptive tactics that might be difficult to anticipate or quickly understand.
	Efforts to mislead or compromise automated systems might create or enable further opportunities to disrupt or damage critical infrastructure or national security networks.
	Foreign data science.
	And I think he's probably right about some of this.
	This field is becoming increasingly mature.
	Foreign countries are openly purchasing access to published U.S. research through aggregated publication indices, and they are collecting social media and patent data to develop their own indices.
	See, you can't have that.
	We have to be the rulers of the information, according to Clapper.
	Broader adoption of the Internet of Things devices and artificial intelligence in settings such as public utilities and healthcare will only exacerbate these potential effects.
	Russian cyber actors who post information on commercial websites might seek to alter online media as a means to influence public discourse and create confusion.
	Chinese military doctrine outlines the use of cyber deception operations to conceal intentions, modify stored data, transmit false data, manipulate the flow of information, or influence public sentiments, all to induce errors and miscalculation in decision making.
	This will be used for HTTPS everywhere.
	That's what he's saying there.
	Well, what he's saying is that this is the stuff we're working on.
	And he's projecting it on all these actors.
	Totally.
	Totally.
	So we'll be doing all that stuff, ladies and gentlemen, and that's going to be fun to watch.
	Here's the strategic outlook.
	The consequences of innovation and increased reliance on information technology in the next few years or on both our society's way of life in general and how we, in the intelligence community specifically, perform our mission will probably be far greater in scope and impact than ever.
	Devices designed and fielded with minimal security requirements and testing and an ever increasing complexity of networks could lead to widespread vulnerabilities in civilian infrastructure and U.S. government systems.
	These developments will pose challenges to our cyber defenses and operational tradecraft, but also create new opportunities for our own intelligent collectors.
	You didn't hear that, did you?
	No.
	They said that twice.
	So there's more about the Internet of Things.
	He did a lot on...
	He went through every single country in the Middle East.
	It's all Russia-China, Russia-China, Russia-China.
	It's all Russia-China who are going to be doing everything.
	They're going to be totally screwing us.
	And then we have the term that I think we should...
	Or an acronym, HVEs, which pops up everywhere.
	I want to gander a guess at what an HVE stands for.
	HVE. Human...
	I have no idea.
	Homegrown violent extremists.
	Where's the G? It's one word.
	Homegrown.
	There's no such thing as one word homegrown.
	Well, it's HVEs.
	That is what they're doing.
	Then we have space.
	I've always said there's wars in space.
	Thank you, Mr.
	Clapper.
	Threats to our use of military, civil, and commercial space systems will increase in the next few years as Russia and China progress in developing counter-space weapons systems to deny, degrade, or disrupt U.S. space systems.
	Foreign military leaders understand the unique advantages that space-based systems provide to the United States.
	Russia's senior leadership probably views countering the U.S. space advantage as a critical component of warfighting.
	His 2014 military doctrine highlights at least three space-enabled capabilities— Global strike, the intention to station weapons in space, and strategic non-nuclear precision weapons as main external military threats to the Russian Federation.
	So there's a lot of, like, really crazy crackpot stuff in here.
	A lot.
	Deny and disrupt.
	We already face a global threat from electronic warfare systems capable of jamming satellite communication systems and global navigation space systems.
	Let's see what else was interesting.
	I mean, I've marked the whole thing up.
	It's just pages and pages and pages of stuff.
	Mexican drug traffickers capitalizing on the strong U.S. demand for heroin.
	Go America!
	Have increased heroin production significantly since 2007.
	Thank you, Barack Obama.
	That's an interesting coincidence.
	Yeah, I'll say.
	Some Mexican trafficking groups, which collectively supply most of the heroin consumed in the United States, have mastered production of the white heroin preferred in eastern U.S. cities and have been boosting overall drug potency by adding fentanyl.
	Fentanyl, which is 30 to 50 times more potent than heroin, is sometimes used as an adulterant and mixed with lower grade heroin to increase its effects or mixed with dilutants and sold as synthetic heroin with or without the buyer's knowledge.
	Really, there's a lot more going on than this little shit show that they put up that I had to watch where it actually came out.
	And then, just as a Kegelman-Newton...
	Well, before you go on, do you remember when we used to get that report that was like the International Drug Report?
	Yeah, it comes out every year.
	Yeah, have you gotten one over the last couple years?
	Yeah, we got one last year.
	We're probably due for one.
	I think it's the OECD who puts that out.
	They put out the big drug thing.
	Why?
	Because somehow it came up in my brain when you were reading that stuff about that white heroin going to New Hampshire.
	What happened to that report?
	I'll look it up.
	I sent you a note, by the way, on Skype.
	Okay.
	The final thing that we have here, Moldova, just figured I'd put that in there since...
	You know, Moldova is where we saw Kagan Noodleman hang out recently.
	Oh yeah, she was, where's Noodleman?
	Mm-hmm.
	Moldova faces a turbulent year in 2016.
	Popular discontent over government corruption and misrule continues to reverberate after a banking scandal sparked large public protests.
	Yeah, the bank run that we set up.
	And political infighting brought down a government coalition of pro-European parties in October 2015.
	Continued unrest is likely.
	The breakaway pro-Russian region is also struggling economically and will remain dependent on Russian support.
	So...
	Hello, Moldova.
	Can I say something right now?
	We're in tech news.
	Yeah.
	This is all tech news.
	Well, that's not tech news, you're right.
	Moldova?
	Okay, well, I'm sorry.
	I don't think so.
	Back to Comey.
	Back to Comey.
	Okay.
	And it turns out that this encrypted devices stuff is really not that important for what they're doing.
	We already heard...
	I think you're going back to Clapper.
	No, Clapper and Comey were on the same panel.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	And Comey took the encryption question.
	What's the risk to law enforcement and to prosecution if when presented a legal court order, a company refuses to provide the communications that the court has ordered them to?
	The risk is that we won't be able to make a case and a really bad guy will go free.
	This is the FBI. They haven't been for encryption ever since I was a kid.
	A really bad guy will go free.
	Against encryption.
	We don't know that.
	A poor innocent guy might be getting free on technicality.
	We have no idea.
	And a really bad guy will go free.
	And can you...
	For the American people, set a percentage of how much of that is terrorism and how much of that fear is law enforcement and prosecutions that take place in every town in America every day.
	I'd say this problem we call going dark, which, as Director Clapper mentioned, is the growing use of encryption, both to lock devices when they sit there and to cover communications as they move over fiber optic cables, is actually overwhelmingly affecting law enforcement because it affects cops and prosecutors and sheriffs and detectives trying to make murder cases, car accident cases, kidnapping cases, drug cases.
	Car accident cases.
	Oh yeah, he's going to explain the whole thing while we need this.
	How does that work?
	Oh, I'll tell you.
	He has an example.
	How about parking tickets?
	What's it do for parking tickets?
	It has an impact on our national security work, but overwhelmingly this is a problem that local law enforcement sees.
	Ah, interesting.
	Especially with respect to devices, phones, that default lock.
	That is the overwhelming concern of state and local law enforcement, because all of our lives are becoming increasingly digital.
	Those devices are going to hold the evidence of child pornography, communications.
	Thanks, Rick.
	We'll start with that.
	The evidence of child pornography.
	I think you have evidence of child pornography on your phone, son.
	Unlock it.
	...are becoming increasingly digital.
	Those devices are going to hold the evidence of child pornography, communications that someone made before they were killed, before they went missing, the evidence that will be necessary to solve a crime, and including things, like I said, like car accidents.
	Here you go.
	Here's your question answered.
	And so it is a big problem for law enforcement armed with a search warrant when you find a device that can't be opened even though the judge said there's probable cause to open it.
	As I said, it affects our counterterrorism work.
	You know, at San Bernardino, a very important investigation to us, we still have one of those killer's phones that we have not been able to open.
	This is kind of incredible to me.
	Well, how about this?
	They've not been able to open the phone to unlock it?
	Is that what he means by open?
	This is going to have a profound effect on the case?
	Yeah, because...
	How?
	The guys have got them on camera shooting people.
	Yeah.
	How is this going to have any effect on the case?
	So what?
	They can't open the phone.
	How about using the information that they've been collecting at the head end?
	You're not going to get the conversations, but you're going to know who he called.
	I know, but this is just to show you what's going on.
	We know Comey's no techno dweeb.
	You know, San Bernardino, very important investigation to us.
	We still have one of those killer's phones that we have not been able to open.
	And it's been over two months now.
	We're still working on it.
	By the way, yeah.
	Has the guy been found guilty?
	He's dead.
	Oh, he's dead.
	That's true.
	He's dead.
	The dead killer.
	Yeah, the dead killer.
	Exactly.
	It's been over two months now.
	We're still working on it.
	But it's also occurred on the criminal side.
	Well, apparently it's very difficult to open the lock's phone.
	What difference does it make?
	The guy's dead.
	Yeah, but that's the case.
	Sounds like a waste of government resources.
	A woman was murdered in Louisiana last summer, eight months pregnant, killed.
	No clue as to who did it, except her phone is there when she's found, killed.
	They couldn't open it.
	Still can't open it.
	So the case remains unsolved.
	So this is something I hear about all over the country from my partners in state and local law enforcement.
	But supplying the information is absolutely crucial to the continuation of that investigation and prosecution.
	That's one of the aspects of the conversation, which is healthy.
	There's a robust debate going on.
	Here's the robust debate.
	Ought to be.
	That's all good.
	Okay, here it comes.
	Important issues.
	But a part that gets confusing to me is when folks talk like, we want access to company servers.
	We want access to their source code.
	What we would like is a world where people are able to comply with court orders.
	Lots of companies do.
	Both people who make phones are able to unlock them when judges order it.
	And people who provide communication services are able to comply with judges' orders.
	And here it comes.
	Here it comes.
	You want to hear this last bit?
	There's can't, and therein lies the problem.
	But it's not about us trying to get a backdoor, a term that confuses me, frankly.
	I don't want a door, I don't want a window, I don't want a sliding glass door.
	I would like people to comply with court orders, and that's the conversation we're trying to have.
	He says the term backdoor confuses him.
	Confuses him.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	How can that confuse anybody?
	I don't want a door.
	I don't want a window.
	I don't want a sliding glass door.
	You've got to ISO that.
	I'm playing the ISO as we speak.
	Here it is.
	This is an ISO for sure.
	I don't want a door.
	I don't want a window.
	I don't want a sliding glass door.
	I would like people to comply with court orders, and that's the conversation we're trying to have.
	The conversation.
	Okay, we'll have the conversation.
	We'll cut that part out.
	All right, so I got that.
	Oh, should I cut that part out?
	I think it should just be, I don't want a door, I don't want a window, I don't want a sliding door.
	Further tech news.
	The end of Twitter.
	I can call it now.
	This is easy.
	The end of Twitter.
	This has nothing to do with 10,000 characters, 140 characters.
	No, it has to do with the Twitter Security Council.
	I'm sure you heard about this.
	There's no way you didn't.
	Twitter has put together a security council, which consists of a lot of social justice warriors, and the list is quite extensive, to come up with, I guess, community guidelines.
	And one of these, actually, is the Dangerous Speech Project.
	Because I just looked at people who were trying to, you know, who were talking about what free speech is and how that can work.
	That's over.
	Right.
	So the Dangerous Speech Project, they actually have a guidelines...
	To determine...
	Actually, I want to do this with you.
	Five defining variables.
	So these are the people who will be determining if you get kicked off Twitter or not.
	The guidelines are based on five variables which affect the dangerousness of particular speech act in the time and place in which it was made or disseminated.
	The speaker, the audience, the speech act itself, the social and historical context, and the mode of dissemination.
	So here it is.
	The most dangerous speech act or ideal type of dangerous speech would be one for which all five variables are maximized.
	You ready for the five variables?
	One.
	Yeah, definitely.
	If it is a powerful speaker with a high degree of influence over the audience...
	That has to be in play?
	That has to be in play.
	Otherwise, it's not dangerous, your speech.
	So they don't say, they don't define what powerful is.
	Because a guy with 26 followers, it's not going to mean anything.
	No, no.
	The second one.
	The audience has grievances and fear that the speaker can cultivate.
	So that would be like Donald Trump, I guess.
	Yeah, they should kick him off.
	A speech act that is clearly understood as a call to violence.
	This is a tough one.
	This is a tough one.
	Call to violence.
	It's clearly understood.
	Do we have a definition of violence?
	Well, I think you have to go back further.
	A speech act that is clearly understood as a call to violence.
	Doesn't mean clearly stated as a call to violence, but understood as a call to violence.
	Elf and fox dog.
	Fourth, a social or historical context that is propitious for violence.
	Propitious?
	Is that the word?
	Propitious?
	How do you spell it?
	P-R-O-P-I-T-I-O-U-S. Propitious.
	I think it's a better pronunciation.
	Onward.
	Giving or indicating a good chance of success.
	Favorable.
	That's what propitious means.
	So favorable for violence for any of a variety of reasons.
	If you call for violence and there's no chance, then you're okay.
	Then you're okay.
	It has to be all five.
	Historical or historical context that is propitious for violence for any of a variety of reasons, including longstanding competition between groups for resources, lack of efforts to solve grievances, or previous episodes of violence.
	And then final, a means of dissemination that is influential in itself.
	For example, because it is the sole or primary source of news for that relevant audience.
	You could almost say anything we talk about on this show hits all five of those, depending on how you...
	Do you think we call for violence, burning down anything?
	No, but that depends on how you want to define it.
	We do say punch in the mouth, but that's...
	Well, we say hit in the mouth, which is not quite as bad, I think.
	Um...
	So this is stupid.
	No, this is completely stupid.
	But strangely enough, I think it actually plays into the way people are thinking these days and what has now kind of become acceptable in mainstream America.
	Could you be any more kind of America than Texas?
	No.
	So how about University of Texas?
	I don't think, no.
	I disagree with that.
	University of Texas is most American.
	Okay.
	I think Texas Christian, I think TCU might be.
	Let me play a little clip from something that happened this week at University of Texas, Austin, where clearly an activist, a person who was being difficult, was shouting things at girls on campus.
	He actually, I think, was not technically on campus, but he got written up for a ticket.
	And he turned on his phone and he interviewed this APD, Austin Police Department officer, who's very kind, by the way.
	Nothing wrong with what he's saying.
	He's being very courteous.
	But his understanding of the law is interesting.
	So what's your name and your badge number?
	My name is Officer Walmsley.
	Walmsley?
	Okay.
	1948.
	Okay.
	So will you allow me to speak now?
	Yeah, go ahead.
	All right, so basically what I was saying earlier, we had somebody that was offended by the gestures you were making, and that's our job is to make sure that that doesn't happen because these are students that's walking in this mall right here.
	I know you're not on campus, but you're right on campus offending students on the campus.
	So the job here is to write you up as a citation, disorderly conduct, for offending someone.
	Does freedom of speech protect offensive speech?
	Does freedom of speech do what?
	Protect offensive speech.
	He was offending someone.
	I'm sorry?
	It said he was offending someone.
	Yeah, listen, it's almost over.
	Offensive speech.
	Does freedom of speech do what?
	Protect offensive speech.
	It doesn't matter freedom of speech.
	Someone was offended.
	That's against the law.
	I don't want to argue.
	It's against the law to defend.
	It's against the law.
	I'm sorry, can you say that again?
	It's against the law to offend somebody?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	So, uh, why?
	I mean, I thought freedom of speech was to protect people.
	I gotta get your ID, man.
	I mean, I don't mind you doing the camera, but you have to work with me like I work with you.
	So, could you give me your ID, please?
	I gave you my permission.
	Can I have your ID, sir?
	Sure.
	What are the words that were offensive?
	I told you the words earlier.
	I said that you used anus.
	I said that you were offending the sorority.
	Well, that could be a biological word.
	So he used the word anus and offended the sorority system.
	Class, right?
	It's fine.
	Anus is a biological word.
	That's also a biological word.
	I understand.
	So would you be...
	Just work with me like I'm working with you.
	Can I get your ID? I'm happy to work with you.
	No problem.
	Is there a way you'd like me?
	What were the words you'd recommend?
	Biological words?
	What would be the suggested words I should use next time?
	I can't tell you what to do, sir.
	I don't know what's your goal here.
	I know that you would finish someone and I'm just doing my job.
	Just doing his job.
	Admittedly, according to the chatroom, the guy was a trainee, but I saw him in uniform, so he looked like a uniformed police officer to me.
	I'll give you Clip of the Day for that.
	Well, thank you.
	I think that's warranted.
	Although I would say it's...
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	Clip of the Day.
	I'm going to take my honors first.
	I would say that its quality was mediocre, and I think the point was well made, but it's a good clip.
	But the guy's a douche.
	The guy who's being, you know, busted with the ticket.
	And what's the ticket?
	Do we get the price on the ticket?
	What is it, 50 bucks?
	I don't know what the cost is.
	10 bucks.
	It was 5 bucks.
	But he was ticketed for offending someone.
	And that, more importantly, that the police officer, trainee or not, says, you know, that's against the law.
	You can't do that.
	I'm just doing my job.
	You offend somebody, I have to give you a ticket.
	Offending someone.
	Yeah.
	We're doomed.
	What if you're easily offended?
	Yeah, right.
	Right.
	You got any more tech news?
	Yes, I got more tech news.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	I said we had dimension in the newsletter or loaded up with tech news.
	Yes, loaded.
	Loaded.
	All right, let's go with...
	Oh, let's go with the lithium battery story.
	At least people should know about it.
	Okey dokey.
	And I think this is fishy, by the way.
	Oops.
	I'm sorry, what?
	Story is fishy.
	Now to a developing headline on the story we've been following here.
	An urgent new warning about lithium batteries on planes.
	The risk that they could cause a, quote, catastrophic fire.
	And now the stunning images.
	The FAA wants you to see their own experiment.
	And you're about to see what happened.
	ABC's David Curley covers aviation for us.
	This is the FAA's own test of what can happen if a shipment of lithium-ion batteries spontaneously ignites.
	These batteries can lead to catastrophic aircraft loss, the FAA is warning tonight, and current fire suppression systems cannot effectively control a lithium battery fire.
	They power our computers and tablets and can overheat and ignite.
	Think about the house fires and the hoverboard fires suspected of being started by batteries that we've seen recently.
	What if it happens in a cargo hold?
	And it apparently has.
	Two 747s have crashed.
	The packages of batteries they carried suspected of contributing.
	That's why the National Transportation Safety Board is also out with a recommendation that if batteries are carried, they are separate from other flammable materials and the number of batteries be restricted.
	Airline pilots want even more that the batteries be listed as hazardous.
	We cannot continue to lose these airplanes due to fires that are uncontained and will quickly bring an airplane down.
	Major U.S. carriers don't allow the shipments of lithium batteries, but that's not true for all airlines, which is why tonight the FAA is calling on those carriers to study the risks of carrying this potentially dangerous cargo.
	David?
	All right, David.
	David?
	What do you think?
	This is not a new story.
	Here's what I'm asking.
	No, this has been going on for years.
	This lithium battery thing has been going on for years.
	Years.
	Years.
	And this story keeps cropping up.
	What's going on?
	What do you think?
	There's something scammish about this story.
	Unless it's just a filler.
	It could be just a filler.
	Well, ultimately, we have lithium batteries and so much.
	Everything.
	Yeah.
	It is the battery of choice.
	I mean, you say, well, maybe the nickel metal hydride people are behind this, but no, no.
	I think that we also go back to big dry cells.
	The big, you know, dry cell that...
	Big old clunkers.
	A couple of those in series in order to power up your laptop.
	I don't know.
	Other than we have some new device that can check and see if it's an approved lithium battery.
	Oh, there could be something like that.
	Yeah.
	I think approved lithium batteries.
	Something new somebody's trying to sell.
	But maybe one of our producers will have a clue.
	Now, this is this last tech news story.
	Well, I might have a couple more, but yes.
	You'd have more.
	Yeah, I might.
	I'm going to save mine for last.
	I would like to direct your attention to a company that hit Tina up for marketing.
	She does communications for the Ronald McDonald House.
	And she said, what do you think of this?
	El Toro.
	El Toro dot com.
	E-L-T-O-R-O. You want me to go look at this?
	Yeah, you can.
	I mean, I'm happy to just read it to you from the FAQs.
	What does El Toro do?
	I thought this was a very interesting outfit.
	Hold on a second.
	Here it is.
	So they have invented and patented a unique series of technologies that allow our customers to precisely target their customers online using banner and display ads.
	What they have done is they have called 160 million IP addresses from around the United States.
	And they have correlated that to physical home addresses.
	And I guess they have, you know, 100 million daily banners that they can change based upon your home location.
	So, you know, they'll have my IP address, although, you know, I think it's kind of flawed unless they have some additional cookie stuff.
	They say they don't use cookies at all.
	That's what they say.
	So when they see my IP address...
	They have your physical address.
	They have my physical address.
	Not just Austin or South Texas.
	Right.
	So, Tina, she would want to get a bunch of people.
	I still have now, you've brought this as a tech, this is a really good tech story.
	It's a great tech story.
	Because I'm going to ask, because you glossed it over, which is, how did they get your physical address?
	They can ping your IP address until hell freezes over.
	They said they called this, so they went around the country and they called these IP addresses, and although maybe they've gotten information from somewhere else, they say that they have collected this.
	And they...
	I'm not buying it.
	Unless they came and knocked on your door, which they wouldn't...
	They knocked on your door and said, Hi, how are you doing?
	Can I use your internet connection so I can look at your IP address?
	Or they've done a bunch of drive-bys with these open...
	That's what I'm thinking.
	Open routers.
	That's what Google's been doing.
	Well, Google did it or they got in trouble for doing it.
	Well, these guys should get in trouble too.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I thought it was...
	I think it's interesting.
	I don't think they're actually violating any rules or laws, but jeez.
	They're rule followers.
	I don't know if they're rule followers.
	But I thought this is something new.
	If you want to target people within a 10-mile radius...
	Which I think is probably more likely than, they say, right down to the address.
	They say they are the United States Postal Service of the Internet.
	If you want to deliver an ad to a home address, we will make sure it shows up on that person's computer.
	That's their bottom line.
	I think this is one of the things you can use for your political campaign.
	Oh, hell yeah.
	District 21.
	I'm all in.
	Yeah.
	We should look into these guys.
	That's a good idea.
	See how strong and powerful they are.
	ElToro.com.
	Yeah, maybe.
	I'm looking at it now.
	It looks like some sort of operation.
	I'm pretty sure it's an operation.
	Yeah.
	Google is going to be blocking more sites with their No More Deceptive Download Button initiative.
	Oh, good.
	This is something you like.
	You've griped about this a lot.
	I gripe about this constantly.
	Yeah.
	But I don't think Google should be the one responsible.
	Well, the browser's going to break.
	That's Google.
	They'll give you a little bit of good, and then they'll take it away on the back end.
	Just don't let Google button in on everything.
	No kidding.
	That's the main thing, other than just a quick callback to another little ditty that came out amidst all of this confusion going on.
	The president unveiled a $19 billion cybersecurity national action plan, which is a lot of money.
	And a lot of that is going into the continuation of Einstein.
	And it's all really for internalists.
	It's all for the government who can't keep their system secure.
	That's what most of the money's for.
	Yeah, that's for sure.
	Alright, I got my last story.
	This is because you have these blurry vision issues.
	And I know for a fact that you're just glued to your phone all the time.
	And on Facebook, you're on Facebook.
	And so play the blue light story.
	This is a scandal.
	Well, can you live without your mobile device?
	Yeah, that's what we thought.
	All that screen time can be bad for your eyes, bad for your sleep.
	Now, Apple is testing a new kind of light.
	That's not the only solution.
	Alan Martin takes a look.
	Now focus on this.
	A lot of our eyeballs today are glued to digital devices.
	I use my mobile devices for everything.
	I'm on them all the time.
	We stare at them for hours on end, day and night.
	After hours, you're using additional devices, watching streaming video.
	But with the kind of light they emit, there may be a dark side.
	Our gadgets give off what's called blue light.
	And blue light reaches far deeper into our eyes than other kinds of light.
	Blue light is that it could cause reactions in the retina that cause damage over a period of time.
	Dr.
	Tony Moore is a professor of ophthalmology at UCSF. He says blue light may in theory play a role in aggravating age-related macular degeneration, a condition that can lead to vision loss.
	And while healthy young eyes can handle blue light...
	What we don't know is whether chronic use over many, many years might lead to a problem.
	A more immediate concern, digital eye strain and sleep disruption.
	Well, if you think about it, the devices are smaller and you generally hold them closer.
	Dr.
	Dennis Fong is a clinical instructor at UC Berkeley School of Optometry.
	He says the clinic is seeing more cases of digital eye strain in young people.
	The symptoms include headaches, dry eyes and blurred vision.
	So the focusing ability is being stressed.
	And while we need blue light in the morning to wake up, at night, blue light suppresses the release of melatonin, a hormone that influences the body's biological clock.
	Using computers and blue light emitting phones late at night can really disturb sleep, and this is likely to impact on general health.
	Oh, bullcrap.
	My eyes are improving.
	That's the problem.
	Now, here's the other thing.
	This led to a native ad for Apple.
	I didn't clip that part.
	Oh, but it makes total sense.
	But it went on.
	Well, Apple's going to do a new thing, so when it gets dark out, they're going to limit the blue light coming from the iPhone or something.
	Oh, brother.
	For the next generation phone, I guess.
	Oh, brother.
	But this story cropped up in a couple of places, so I think it's been planted.
	And I know it's been planted for Apple, but it's been planted for someone.
	And that closes tech news for me.
	All right.
	Very nice.
	Alright.
	Onward.
	Yeah.
	What do I have?
	I got a whole sheet of stuff that I've been wanting to discuss.
	How about this?
	Just play some offbeat stuff.
	Play this Moscow story.
	This is only on German news.
	There's only people covering this, but it's just screwy.
	Okay.
	In Moscow, local business people, activists and ordinary citizens were outraged when the government of the Russian capital city took a bulldozer to many structures around the city's metro stations.
	About 100 small shops, restaurants and shopping centres were pulled down.
	Now, the city maintains that the structures were illegally built in the 1990s.
	Business owners, however, say they had valid property ownership documents or leases for their buildings and that some were confirmed just weeks ago.
	Most of the raised structures were small shops that had sold food and household items.
	Some were three-story shopping centers.
	The city of Moscow claimed they were unsightly and obstructing metro entrances and access to gas and telecommunication lines.
	The bulldozers were accompanied by riot police.
	Business owners were not even allowed to save their merchandise and equipment.
	This whole thing is nothing but a military action.
	And what I'd like to understand is what have small businesses done to deserve being destroyed in such a barbaric way.
	I have no words.
	Quite a few Moscow residents sympathized with the shop owners.
	They had depended on the small businesses.
	Who needed this?
	People are all mad.
	No place to put credit on your phone, nowhere to buy a bun, no toilet.
	Really, who had a problem with all these places?
	It's just horrible, in my opinion.
	Who did they do it for and what for?
	They just made life harder for everyone.
	Many Moscovites see the demolitions as one more sign that rule of law is little respected in Russia.
	The main thing is that they did it in such a barbaric way that any businessman working in Russia understood that they will never invest in this country again.
	Local analysts say Moscow could face hundreds of millions of dollars in legal claims.
	The city also stands to lose millions in taxes from the businesses that operate it in the destroyed buildings.
	It's a hit piece in Germany.
	Yeah, a big hit piece for sure.
	But still, I can't figure out any way.
	This is just a screwy hit piece.
	I don't know what's going on.
	Did you guys talk about...
	I didn't hear the latest Dvorak Horowitz unplugged.
	Did you guys talk about Iran and them wanting to receive payment in euros for their oil?
	No.
	Well, that seems to be happening.
	That seems pretty counterintuitive to the whole idea of who we are.
	We've killed people over this.
	I think that needs to be discussed.
	Not on Horowitz, so I think we should discuss it.
	Well, a source at state-owned national Iranian oil company, Nayak, told Reuters, Iran will charge in euros for its recently signed oil contracts with firms including French oil and gas major Total, Spanish refiner Kepsa, and Letasco, which is the trading arm of Russians, Lukoil.
	In our invoices, we mentioned a clause that buyers of our oil will have to pay in euros, considering the exchange rate versus the dollar around the time of the delivery.
	Oh, okay.
	So it seems like it's pegged to the dollar, but still, paying in euros I don't think is what we want.
	Isn't our whole system based on the American dollar being the reserve currency for oil?
	Petrodollars, yes?
	I don't know.
	I'll have to look into that.
	It's screwy.
	Something Trump would put a stop to.
	President Trump wouldn't have that.
	That's a horrible deal.
	Horrible deal, I tell you.
	Here's a story that's not covered anywhere.
	At least that I missed it.
	Maybe I didn't listen to enough news sources.
	But this is the Supreme Court.
	This is discussed on Democracy Now!
	Of course.
	This is the Supreme Court putting the kibosh on some of this climate change crap that came out of France.
	That climate change.
	The Supreme Court has temporarily blocked regulations to limit emissions from coal-fired power plants.
	The stay comes as an appeals court considers a challenge to the rules brought by corporations in 29 states.
	The Supreme Court's decision to halt the rules is reportedly unprecedented.
	The court has never before agreed to block a regulation before it's been reviewed by a federal appeals court.
	The move indicates the Supreme Court is likely to overturn the regulations in the future.
	The decision could imperil the Paris Climate Accords since the coal plant rules formed a key part of the U.S. commitment to cut emissions.
	Oh, man.
	This is so bogus.
	This is so bogus, all this bull crap.
	Well, I'm glad you brought that up.
	I would not have even thought of this.
	Thank God we have producers everywhere.
	Ancilla wrote an article about this particular thing that happened.
	And I wasn't following this because, God, I'm so not interested in Neil deGrasse Tyson.
	So we have this rap guy, B.O.B., who I've never heard of.
	But I have heard of him now.
	And he wrote a lyric about flat earth.
	And that Neil deGrasse Tyson was full of crap.
	The reason why I'm linking this to climate change is...
	So he's brought out on that Lawrence show on Comedy Central.
	It's like a talk show.
	You know what I'm talking about, don't you?
	There's a bunch of different shows on Comedy Central.
	And so, you know, they discuss this about this rapper, what's going on about the flat earth.
	And then, of course, they have, you know, a science emergency hits the big red button and then Neil deGrasse Tyson walks in eating a ham sandwich like he's Mr.
	Cool.
	And the host says, well, you have to, you know, could you please?
	We have an emergency.
	We have people here who think that the earth is flat.
	And that this segment is not about that, but is the way that the uber scientist, our famous guy, Neil deGrasse Tyson, the way instead of explaining really the science, how he's a bully.
	He's a big a-hole bully, and he does this for all things science.
	And you can't see this part, but when he comes in, when he's about ready, you'll hear the crowd react to it.
	When he's about ready to do some splainin' to this crazy fucker, he takes off his jacket, you know, like a big bully, and he's flexing his muscles, and it's really, really bizarre.
	Alright, hold my sandwich.
	Oh, sure.
	Okay.
	Here, you take that.
	Here.
	Oh, yeah!
	He's taking off his coat!
	He's going to kill this guy!
	Listen, B.O.B., once and for all.
	The Earth looks flat because, one, you're not far enough away at your size.
	Okay, so now we're right away personal attacks about the guy's size.
	He's not that tall.
	Two, your size isn't large enough relative to Earth to notice any curvature at all.
	It's a fundamental fact of calculus and non-Euclidean geometry.
	Small sections of large curved surfaces will always look flat to little creatures that crawl upon it.
	Okay, so that's the only scientific explanation he gave.
	That was why you can't see the curvature, but he's calling the guy Little Ant, Little Rodent.
	But this...
	But this whole thing, it's just a symptom of a larger problem.
	There's a growing anti-intellectual strain in this country.
	It may be the beginning of the end of our informed democracy.
	He had my attention here, as you can understand.
	In a free society, you can and should think whatever you want.
	And if you want to think the world is flat, go right ahead.
	But if you think the world is flat and you have influence over others, as would successful rappers or even presidential candidates...
	Then being wrong becomes being harmful.
	We just heard this, didn't we?
	You have to have influence.
	You have to have an audience.
	The list of stuff from Twitter.
	And it also plays in with the cop who busts over the offensive.
	Exactly.
	So you have your speech controlled by the police.
	This is why I wrap it up this way.
	It's harmful.
	Yeah, it gets better.
	Being harmful to the health, the wealth, and the security of our citizenry.
	Just so you know.
	So we have an audience.
	Wait, he said the health and the wealth?
	Let me see.
	Then, being wrong becomes being harmful to the health, the wealth, and the security of our citizenry.
	The health, the wealth, and the security of our citizenry.
	What's that wealth got to do with anything?
	His wealth, obviously.
	I don't know.
	But this is dangerous.
	This is what I call dangerous speech rights.
	It's fascist.
	Yeah.
	The security of our citizenry.
	Discovery and exploration got us out of the caves.
	And each generation benefits from what previous generations have learned.
	Isaac Newton, my man, said, if I have seen farther than others, it's by standing on the shoulders of giants.
	Can I get an amen?
	And then the scientist says, can I get an amen?
	Someone said, can I get an amen?
	Yeah.
	That's what I think Ancilla got on this.
	Yeah.
	But that was Degrass Tyson said it.
	Can I get an amen?
	Yeah.
	Can I get an amen?
	What, he believes in God now all of a sudden?
	This is a fucking religion.
	By standing on the shoulder.
	Of science, which we talked about on the show numerous times.
	Yeah.
	This is it.
	Can I get an amen?
	Woo!
	Woo So that's right, B.O.B. When you stand on the shoulders of those who came before, you might just see far enough to realize the Earth isn't f***ing flat.
	And by the way, this is called gravity.
	And he drops the mic.
	But it was the mic that wasn't connected.
	It was a mic with no cord.
	Was it a wireless mic?
	He had a wireless mic on, but the mic that he dropped was just a prop.
	Just to make it even worse.
	Prop mic.
	This!
	I'm just going to call him out.
	Hold on.
	Douchebag!
	I'm going to show myself Lord by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda in the morning.
	And as an aside, that is not gravity according to our knowledgeable chat room that is called Density of Objects.
	We're just saying, Neil deGrasse Tyson.
	Matthew Wittering is one of the people we want to thank for show 798.
	He contributed $100 from Greenwich.
	That's where the time thing is.
	He said GM1. Zero.
	He said zero.
	He said ground zero.
	Is it zero?
	Not one, it's zero.
	No, that's ground zero.
	I'm minus six from GMT. So there has to be a zero.
	So he's zero, yeah.
	I wonder what time it is.
	Phillip says that's $100 from Greenwich, UK. Phillip Sanders in Ewing, New Jersey, $100.
	Anonymous from Kenichi.
	Oh, it's O. Kaneohe.
	That's what it is.
	Every vowel has to be pronounced.
	Kaneohe.
	Hawaii.
	Or, you know, this guy goes up to a guy and says, how do you pronounce it?
	Hawaii or Hawaii?
	And the guy says, Hawaii.
	And he says, oh, I never knew that.
	Okay, thanks.
	He says, you're welcome.
	Did I get up in the morning?
	Yeah, I get up in the morning.
	David S. Funk in Seattle, Washington, $100.
	That's nice.
	Mark in L.A. And he...
	This is a good one.
	He sent a little note in explaining how he got involved with the show.
	He says it took him forever.
	And he says, you know, he didn't...
	He heard me on these other shows and he just thought I was a douchebag.
	And so he didn't...
	And he says, you're just obviously an old conservative grouch.
	I'm not conservative.
	But, you know, so he says what got him around to the show was actually you...
	Oh.
	On Twit, when you pull the gun.
	He says, anyone who pulls a gun on a show like that, I'm going to check it out.
	I was asked to show it.
	I would remind the audience.
	But yes.
	You pulled it nonetheless.
	Yeah.
	Mr.
	Brian Green of Hams, KC9YJM. When the apocalypse comes, we're the guys who are going to save the world, right?
	Yeah.
	Ham, obviously.
	73-73.
	73s.
	73s.
	Kilo 5.
	Alpha Charlie Charlie.
	New call.
	Ditto.
	Got Nate in Draper, Utah.
	Got Nate!
	69-69.
	Thomas Riesgaard in Denmark.
	66-60.
	Let me read this.
	Not many donators from Denmark.
	Hey, here you go.
	On and off listener for many years.
	Been consistently listening for a while.
	I've donated a few years ago for you my douchebaggery and accept this 66-65 when talking about Assange possibly being...
	Can't read the rest.
	Got cut off.
	Well, thank you, Denmark.
	Thank you, Denmark, for your votes.
	Sean Rigolado in Saranac Lake, New York, 59-68.
	Michael Cross in Kanata, Ontario, Canada, 55-10.
	He's got a thing here.
	He says years ago...
	Hi, guys.
	The only reason I'm making this donation today is call out my boss, Todd.
	Oh, this is as risky as calling out your wife.
	Calling out my boss, Todd Powers, as a douchebag.
	Douchebag.
	Douchebag.
	I punched him in the mouth over a year ago and he has yet to donate.
	The only thing I ask for in return is job karma because I'll probably need it after this donation.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	Alexander Munoz in Hot Springs, Arkansas, has sent a check and a note, which I'd like to read.
	It's kind of interesting.
	He says, I'm answering the call to action John sent out in the newsletter.
	This is like a week ago.
	He says, this show gives me clarity and peace regarding world events, and I'm able to analyze the news with a sense of humor.
	You're worth more than my cable subscription.
	And that's what he's paying us.
	Yes.
	Cable subscription.
	Although some people are paying hundreds of dollars, from what I can tell, for their cable subscription.
	Mark Van Patten in Fort Myers, Florida, 55.
	This is a short list, by the way, 5510.
	Sir Kevin Payne in Richmond, Virginia, 5432.
	One of my favorite donations.
	Ryan Persichili.
	Persichili.
	I bet.
	In Trenton, New Jersey, $50.01.
	And the following donors came in with $50.
	David Silva in El Cerrito, California.
	Over here could be on the train when we take a visit at the train museum.
	Jason Brockman in Hamilton, Ohio.
	Michael Wickland in Almhult, Sweden, I think.
	Sir Richard Gardner, Parts Unknown.
	Jeremy Wentworth in Tulsa, Oklahoma, $50.
	He says the best podcast in the universe.
	He says he can confirm it by being in the middle of it.
	Paul Vela, Sir Paul Vela in Milton Keynes, Buckinghamshire, UK, $50.
	David Peet, Aubrey, Texas.
	Jan van der Laun in Austin.
	He's got to be a big time peerage holder.
	He's a knight by now.
	He must be.
	I don't think he's ever really asked for anything.
	He should check it out.
	We have to do a little research and we'll get his numbers.
	Yeah, for sure.
	Seems to be.
	Because I can sure remember saying his name a lot.
	Yep.
	Brian Klimzak, I believe, in Naperville, Illinois.
	Alan Bean here in Oakland, California.
	He comes in every month.
	Can you talk into the mic?
	You're a little off mic.
	Sure, I am.
	Because I have to move the mic to see the spreadsheet.
	Oh.
	I can try to...
	I'll jerk it around a little bit.
	That's what she said.
	I am off mic.
	That's a good catch.
	Alan Bean in Oakland.
	Kyle Meyer in Atlanta, Georgia.
	Jason Deluzio.
	Is it Jason Deluzio?
	Could be.
	In Chatsford, Pennsylvania, maybe.
	Sanford Staub in Kuskia.
	I guess it's Kuskia.
	Kuskia, Idaho.
	And that's all we got.
	That's all we got today.
	A little low.
	The way we work this show, if you're new, is we treat our audience as our producers.
	The producers give us information, insight, the expert knowledge, but also support the program financially.
	And it's kind of an interesting timing in the podcast world as the NPR, Public Radio, came out with the Public Radio Podcast Measurement Guidelines.
	Yes.
	Which was the subject of some scrutiny and lots of flaming back and forth from companies that track this kind of stuff and have been doing it for a long time.
	So they're kind of coming in and...
	So let me premise this as you discuss it, or preface it, with...
	It starts like this.
	There's no way of doing this.
	So here's what we're doing.
	Let me read exactly what it says.
	It is difficult to count accurately the number of downloaders.
	No unique ID is transmitted when requesting a podcast file.
	Multiple downloaders can use a single IP address, such as when they are on a shared private network.
	One downloader can have multiple IP addresses.
	Each downloader does transmit a user agent description, which varies by software, sometimes by hardware used.
	The combination of IP addresses and user agent provides something closer to a unique identifier for a device, which is itself an approximation of a unique identifier for downloader.
	And then they go through this whole rigmarole of explaining how they're going to do this.
	I just want to point out, it's bullshit.
	There's no way you can accurately measure this stuff in the way it's done currently.
	It's a scam.
	If I could tell, people say, well, how many people are listening?
	I don't know.
	I don't care.
	I don't have to sell the numbers to anybody.
	Right.
	We can estimate, but there's no reason.
	No, there's no reason.
	So thank you for participating in our system.
	I think it's really good, and I appreciate it, and I think it works very well for us.
	How about you?
	Well, I prefer it.
	I mean, it's much better.
	You don't have to be bossed around by anybody, for starters.
	And you're not subject to people boycotting the show.
	If they don't like the show, they don't have to listen to the show.
	We lose their particular, their single donation, perhaps.
	But that's all we lose when we offend somebody, which is common.
	We offend a lot of people.
	Yes, we do.
	Not on purpose.
	It's just what it is.
	Well, sometimes it is on purpose.
	You've done it a couple of times, and so have I. All right.
	Well, with that, please remember, we do have a show coming up on Sunday.
	Sunday is the big...
	No, Monday is the Grammy Awards.
	No, I thought it was...
	Okay, you're right.
	Sunday is Valentine's Day.
	That's what it is.
	$114.16.
	You can call out your Valentine and show your love.
	That's right.
	Show your love.
	Go right.org slash N-A.
	And today we say happy birthday to Philip Sanders turning 56 today.
	Frank Eisenstadt says happy birthday to his son, Rohan, celebrating today.
	And his wife, Michelle, she'll be celebrating on the 13th.
	Pre-sire got Nate Friedman, 35 on the 13th.
	And Gregory McGregor, 32 on February 13th.
	Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
	Now, I have looked into the matter, and it does seem to be an oversight on my part.
	Yes, yes.
	Mistake on my part.
	It does happen from time to time.
	We did not indeed dame Sarah Harris.
	What?
	Yeah, we didn't.
	I went back, I listened, 7, 9, or 6.
	You and I talked about it beforehand, and then we moved her into the list, and whatever happened, somehow she didn't get her daming.
	Wow, so she does become a black man.
	Which is curiously what she wanted.
	What she wanted in the first place.
	And I refuse to give it.
	This is magic.
	Something's screwy here.
	But now it's warranted.
	Of course she also wants to be on the down low because she's a celebrity there in Australia.
	Probably wouldn't be do good if people found out she's listening to this show.
	You'd really think anybody in Australia...
	Most Australians love this show.
	Yeah, but it's mainstream.
	Mainstream is always different.
	Oh, the mainstream people.
	She's a big morning show host.
	We welcome her with open arms, and I'd love to have her endorsement for my congressional run in District 21.
	Yeah.
	It could happen.
	She might give it, but what difference does it make to the locals?
	Nothing.
	Oh, careful.
	Dame Sarah Harris, get up on the podium.
	Nate Friedman, I need you there, John.
	Blade, blade, blade, blade, blade, blade, blade.
	And Derby Dye, come on!
	Oh!
	Welcome to the No Agenda Show in the amount of $1,000 or more, and we are very, very proud to bring you into the roundtable for the Knights and the Dames, and I hereby pronounce the KV, Dame Sarah Harris, Black Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable, Sir Got Nate, and Derby Dyke!
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	Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay, Fried Bread and Femme Bots, Black Hose, MD 2020, Cuban Cigars and Single Malt Scotch.
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	Mutton and Mead!
	It's a Knight and Dame favorite.
	Go to noagendaNation.com slash rings.
	And sorry, Dame, Sarah, for all confusion.
	I didn't even look into it.
	I just remembered us doing it.
	Well, she sent a note saying, I don't care.
	It's fine.
	Don't worry about it.
	I love you guys.
	No, no, no.
	She sent me a note.
	She did scold us.
	She has the opportunity to scold us and take advantage of it.
	That's the way I see it.
	Well, good.
	You guys are full of crap.
	My man.
	Yeah, okay.
	What do we have?
	Oh, here it is.
	This one.
	Guess who's back in the news?
	He hasn't hit mainstream yet, but he's back in the news.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Do I get hints?
	Do you want me to guess?
	Yeah, guess.
	I want you to guess.
	Is he from America?
	Kind of.
	Is he living in America?
	Is it a he?
	It's a he, obviously.
	Is he living in America?
	It is a he.
	It is a he.
	It's like a name that...
	What was the name of the song?
	Guess...
	I forgot the name.
	There's an old show in the 50s.
	Name that tune?
	Flip the cards over and then...
	Okay, what do you do for a living?
	Oh, okay.
	What's the...
	Guess that job or something, Cameron.
	The chat room will know.
	Maybe I should just give up.
	Oh, okay.
	The Greek finance minister.
	Yeah, he was kicked out and now he's back in the news.
	Former Greek finance minister Yanis Varoufakis has announced the launch of a new grassroots movement to bring together progressive groups and parties with the goal of democratizing Europe.
	Varoufakis, known for his stance against German-backed austerity in Greece, made the announcement Tuesday night in Berlin.
	The only alternative is to try something we've never tried before.
	A political movement that starts everywhere in Europe at once, cross-border, independently of prior political party affiliations, that has one simple objective, to get Europeans around a metaphorical table, digital table, in forums like this one tonight, To discuss, as Europeans, their common problems and what we want our common solutions to these common problems to be.
	Hmm.
	What?
	Isn't this what the EU is supposed to be doing now already?
	You'd think?
	This guy is a troublemaker.
	Yeah, he is a troublemaker.
	I like him for that, though.
	He's CIA or something.
	There's no doubt about it.
	He's a troublemaker.
	Probably works for the State Department, that little agency they have.
	Ah, the Kagan-Newland-Noodleman agency.
	The Newland agency.
	Yeah, you're probably right.
	You're probably right.
	I liked it, though.
	I think that's great.
	This means he's back in the news, and he's going to start a...
	Are we going to democratize Europe?
	Isn't that...
	What is he implying?
	I don't know.
	I don't know.
	Anyway, I thought you'd get a kick out of that.
	That is funny.
	I hope he's not back.
	He's not that easy.
	He was interesting for a while.
	He's kind of a maniac.
	I agree.
	I want to play something that is, I think, important to our listeners in the United States.
	And this is a situation that I clipped this because in Port Angeles, Washington, Obama was going to show up for some damn thing.
	Get money.
	And the chief of police, my wife chats with all these bigwigs now that she's, you know...
	An elite, now that she's elite.
	Now she's an elite.
	And she said that everybody was beside themselves.
	Does she have her own Facebook page that's just a fan page?
	She has a Facebook page, yes.
	A fan page.
	I don't know where it is.
	Anyway, so she says the chief and the fire department, everybody's all beside themselves because to set up shop so you can bring the president in, you have to buy, you rent a bunch of barriers, you gotta do this, you have a big list of crap you gotta do.
	It costs a lot of money.
	And then you get, right, it costs a lot of money.
	And so...
	This clip, which is what Atherton...
	Atherton is nothing like Port Angeles.
	Atherton is a...
	They call it the...
	Or at least in this report, they call it the Beverly Hills of Northern California.
	Mm-hmm.
	And it's a very, along with Hillsboro and Woodside, those are where the billionaires and multimillionaires all live in the Bay Area because it's where they all live and they can bump into each other.
	And this, I think everybody who ever has one of these presidents, especially Obama, who's bumping around all the time, making every little community pay for it, listen to this.
	President Obama is coming back to the Bay Area tomorrow for one thing, more money.
	But tonight, Mark Kelly tells us the town of Atherton is passing the buck.
	Potentially.
	Atherton is the Bay Area's Beverly Hills, but its mayor says the town's pockets are quite as deep as the people who live here.
	And the residents are very wealthy, but our budget is very small, comparatively speaking.
	And so when the president swings into town to fundraise Thursday, the mayor and police chiefs say Atherton, with its $12 million budget, can't afford to foot the bill for the extra security.
	You know, we have a finite number of overtime dollars to spend, and they should be spent on emergency situations, not pre-planned fundraising events.
	The last time President Obama did a fundraiser here, the town of Atherton was on the hook for nearly $10,000.
	City leaders say, not this time.
	We take our residents' property taxes and the fees very seriously.
	Last summer, the city council tightened up its special permit ordinance.
	Now, host the president in your home, or for that matter, any large-scale event that eats up public resources, and you, not Atherton, will be paying for it.
	They used the new law for a big Super Bowl event with Joe Montana at an Atherton estate, and they'll use it again for the president in two days.
	In Atherton, Mark Kelly.
	KPIX 5.
	Atherton has 19 police officers.
	The chief says last time the president swung through, it took 150 officers in addition to the Secret Service to secure the visit.
	This time, the fundraiser's organizer has agreed to pay those costs.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, that's good.
	That's the way it should be.
	Yeah.
	Especially with some of these gallivanting, is a term I don't use that often, gallivanting politicos that bounce around from here to there and they expect the city to pick up the tab.
	Right, right.
	No, no, no.
	When I come to your town, I will be in my own airstream of consciousness.
	I don't need any money from you.
	Good.
	Got my own protection?
	Yeah.
	I was very happy to see that California put another nail in the coffin of our bet in my favor regarding autonomous vehicles.
	And I was a little flummoxed.
	I don't know this.
	I don't know what you're going to say.
	Well, I was flummoxed because it came up on one of the tech horny shows.
	Like, oh, it's so great.
	California is finally, you know, say, yes, yes, autonomous vehicles are real.
	You know, the drivers, it's real.
	They're determining that because it was Google wrote to the California legislature and said, you know, we need an opinion on driverless vehicles and licensing.
	And they wrote a very carefully worded reply.
	And I think it was completely misunderstood by most.
	They were like, oh, this is so great that they're recognizing autonomous vehicles as real.
	Yeah, except they said very clearly, if it's an algorithm driving, then the algorithm is the driver, and therefore the person running the algorithm is responsible, i.e.
	Google.
	Yeah, that's not going to fly very well.
	They're going to be liable or responsible?
	I'd have to look at the exact...
	I thought the way I heard this story was that everyone has to have a driver's license.
	No, no, no, no.
	This is not about that.
	This is specifically about who is the driver if it's software running the car.
	And California is very clear.
	If software is running the car, the software is the driver.
	Okay.
	The software is run by Google.
	So if the software crashes into another car...
	Then Google would be liable.
	That is the obvious conclusion from their note.
	That can be changed with a little lobbying with cash.
	Well, I think it'd be easier just to lose the $1 bet than it would be to lobby to change it, but okay.
	Okay, so I lost a $1 bet, is what you're claiming?
	No, no, no, no, no.
	I just said another nail in the coffin.
	I didn't say you lost anything yet.
	This bet is long-term, man.
	This is 10 years, this bet.
	Yeah.
	This nail will be removed.
	This is a gouge.
	This is an extortion.
	Somebody came up with this and said, we need more money to run this state.
	What are we going to do?
	Let's get some money from Google.
	Oh, we've already soaked them for enough money.
	I don't know how much more we can get.
	I got an idea.
	Let's run this thing out there and see if Google costs up something.
	Yeah.
	Now you're talking.
	I'm telling you, it's just the state extorting Google.
	Well, the Obama administration has put a $4 billion investment up for self-driving cars, though.
	This is pretty big.
	Well, that's kind of a...
	Well, he also said I want 1.8 million dollars for the Zika virus, which will be the last one for me today.
	Here's my background.
	We're starting to see the cracks in the story.
	Oh yeah, for sure.
	This is from, I think this is from Euronews.
	Researchers in Brazil are investigating one of the most worrying aspects of the Zika virus, its potential link to microcephaly.
	They are raising urgent questions.
	Is the virus causing a spike in birth defects?
	And if so, how great is the risk?
	The answers could help shape the response to the rapid spread of Zika.
	Reuters correspondent Julie Steenhuysen.
	What researchers in Brazil are now doing is they have to look back.
	They're doing a retrospective study, so looking back in time and examining all of the women's medical records to see if perhaps there were some The mother might have been infected with Zika.
	They're also trying to rule out any potential other viruses that could cause microcephaly or any other causes such as alcohol exposure and toxic chemicals during pregnancy.
	Results investigating more than 4,000 suspected cases of microcephaly, which results in small heads and underdeveloped brains.
	So far, researchers have identified evidence of Zika infection in 17 of those cases, either in the baby or in the mother, but have not confirmed that Zika can cause microcephaly.
	The WHO and other experts believe it will take six to nine months to really begin to understand the link.
	In the case of Zika, one thing they've already done is they have isolated the virus from...
	We're then a person who was sick, and they have been able to grow it outside of that sick person, so that's one of the steps.
	There are several new studies that are starting in Brazil.
	I know of one that's going on in the city of Recife, and in that study, scientists are designing a prospective study.
	This is looking Signing women up and then watching their pregnancy going forward and seeing how the baby does during pregnancy.
	That's so evil.
	The White House announced Monday that President Obama will be asking Congress for more than $1.8 billion in emergency funds to fight Zika at home and abroad and pursue a vaccine.
	Scam!
	It's all a scam.
	$1.8 billion?
	And how many people are actually sick?
	It's like 35?
	In the United States, yeah, some minor amount of people.
	They should just give me, you know, 10 grand and be done with it.
	Now, so the latest is, you know what the latest is?
	I think so.
	And I believe this to be the culprit.
	I mean, I've been thinking, hearing all kinds of people, oh, it should be, Monsanto's got something.
	These guys, it's all these different things.
	But the latest seems to be a chemical called pyroproxyfen, I think.
	Pyro, I'm looking at it, P-Y-R-I-P-R-O-X-Y, fen.
	And it's a pesticide that they started using in 2014, which makes sense because we have to know that the Zika virus started in, you know, or it was first identified in the 1940s, and this situation has never occurred before.
	It's only occurring in Brazil, the small-headed kids.
	It's only occurring in Brazil, and Brazil's the one who uses this chemical, and this chemical is used in water to treat water to keep It's
	just a pesticide they put in the water.
	Yeah, to keep the mosquitoes from breeding in standing pools.
	So you just put it all over the place.
	Because apparently there's an area of Brazil where this is taking place.
	There's a lot, they have some sort of, it's like water tanks in New York.
	You know, if you go onto a tall building in New York and look around, you're going to see a lot of these water tanks are everywhere.
	And they store water.
	Yeah.
	It's pumped up there so they can have water pressure.
	Yeah, mosquitoes like water.
	And so the standing water is all over the place in Brazil.
	I don't know if it's capped off or what, but this chemical supposedly keeps mosquitoes from reproducing in the pile of water, the bucket of water, whatever it is.
	Now, microcephaly...
	I gotta be honest with you.
	I think some of these kids look pretty cool.
	Not all of them.
	No.
	Okay.
	The ones that show, and it's like, you know, you could be...
	There's a couple kids that are...
	But does it also stunt their intelligence?
	Yes, apparently it's not good.
	That's not cool.
	No, that's not cool.
	Their brain's real small.
	But this is a cover-up.
	This is a cover-up.
	And why all of a sudden we have $1.8 million being made available is beyond me.
	Billion.
	A billion, yes.
	That's beyond me.
	It's a scam.
	And it is a cover.
	You don't want these chemical companies.
	Whoever makes this stuff, I have to look into it.
	I'll check it out.
	See who makes this product.
	Okay, do that.
	But it's just to cover up these guys.
	I was...
	Did I get this story on here?
	This story about...
	You had a couple Zika clips in the past, if you want me to see.
	Yeah, but I think we're all up to date on that.
	Okay.
	Atherton Blue Light.
	There's one thing in here that I saw.
	I don't think I clipped it, damn it.
	I'll get it for the next show.
	Okay.
	But it had this similar kind of screwy story where there's a...
	I don't know why I didn't clip this.
	I think it would be on here.
	There's some sort of a device.
	It's like a birth control device.
	It's called Emula.
	It was killing women left and right.
	But the FDA did some sort of approval and it made the company blameless or...
	We have a lot of this going on where you're, oh God, let's don't let these companies get sued for their incompetence.
	The only problem I have with that track, and I'm all on board with you, is the Guillain-Barre disease.
	Which is just so prevalent with vaccinations that the CDC agrees that there's a percentage of people who get Guillain-Barre from vaccinations, but that the benefits outweigh the negatives.
	Unless, of course, you get Guillain-Barre, which is a horrible disease.
	And people can recover from it, but not all people.
	Yeah, a friend of mine had it and he recovered from it.
	Yeah, my cousin has it and he's been several years.
	And it was from a vaccination, from influenza vaccination.
	Yeah, he got it some other way, so it probably was easier to control it.
	But you'll look into this.
	Yeah, anyway, so there's a bunch of this sort of thing going on.
	But this particular chemical looks like a culprit, or at least one potential one.
	There's going to be some others cropping up.
	But again, this is this stupid virus, which doesn't seem to have any harmful effects at all.
	It's been around forever.
	Whatever is now suddenly causing this problem is making zero sense.
	They'll be busted.
	This will bust out and a billion dollars will be spent wasted.
	No one will be busted.
	The $1.8 billion will be busted from an information standpoint on this show at least.
	Oh yeah, for sure.
	They won't be busted, no.
	I agree.
	For end of show, we have a GX2 track.
	Very nice.
	We also have a little ditty put together by the Media Research Center, which is a quick montage, completely not safe for work, of Donald Trump cussing in public.
	I think it's kind of cool.
	Cusses in public a lot.
	Yeah, which is kind of cool.
	He gets the audience, yay for Donald, he cusses.
	He's not like the other politicians who don't cuss.
	Yeah.
	Well, we kind of like that.
	Eh.
	Eh, he said.
	Meh.
	Well, I'm going to put it in the end of show anyway.
	Oh, yeah.
	Put it in.
	It's the place to play it.
	The end of show is perfect.
	The end of show is perfect.
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	And it was just me sucking in soot and smog.
	They make you decide to check your privilege.
	Stupid mic keeps pop, by the way.
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	I mean, I'd look her right in that fat, ugly face of hers.
	One of these blood-sucking politicians who's been bullshitting people for years.
	You're not gonna raise that fucking price.
	And then as soon as we left, they knocked the shit out of everybody.
	This ain't shit.
	Probably I'll sue her, because it would be fun.
	I'd like to take some money out of her fat-ass pocket.
	Those factories are cheap as hell, and they don't give a shit.
	Whoever the hell bought this mic system, don't pay the son of a bitch to put it in, I'll tell you.
	In the old days, he used to shoot the son of a bitch.
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	When somebody does a bad job, like this stupid Mike, you shouldn't pay the best.
	In the meantime, we can't get a fucking school built in Brooklyn.
	Wouldn't you rather have Trump as president?
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	This guy over here is feeling all sorts of crap.
	So if you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of him, would you?
	Seriously.
	Listen, you motherfuckers.
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