Oh, oh, oh, I didn't know this was going to happen.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Thursday, January 28th, 2016, and time once again for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 7904.
This is no agenda.
This new setup is so easy, I can do my nails during the show.
I'm broadcasting live from the capital of the drone, Star State, Austin Tejas, FEMA Region 6.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I am doing my nails, I'm John C. Devorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
Yeah, that's right.
We'll probably talk about it in tech news, but I'll say right off the bat, the show could fall apart at any moment.
Well, barely your Bluetooth is flaky.
You know, it's interesting where I spent Tuesday, Wednesday, actually Monday night, all the way through last night, Setting up the new gear.
You know, it was time.
It's been three and a half years since the last system was installed.
It's not broken, so let's fix it.
No, but what I did is...
You have no idea, but you sound better.
Believe me.
You sound better.
I like sounding better.
And, you know, the delay on me hitting some of the jingles.
You know, you've even mentioned that, like my...
Like my bell.
That delay is gone.
It was about a half, maybe a quarter second delay.
Your audio is crisper.
Mine may be a little crisper.
I'm not sure.
I can only...
You know, you don't know until you know.
Until you try it all out.
But I did learn a lot of things about what Macintosh, what Apple is doing with their Macs.
And we can talk about it.
What are they doing?
Well, why don't we save it for the tech segment?
We have a tech segment today?
I think we should, yeah.
Okay.
I totally think we should, man.
Yeah.
Okay.
So amidst all of that, there were a couple things going on.
I completely missed that Democrat town hall.
Who's promoting that stuff?
They suck.
I mean, come on.
I had the one good clip from it.
Actually, I pulled a couple that I thought would be worthwhile discussing.
I got the one where the millennial comes up nervously.
The guy is obviously stooged into doing this.
Which show?
He's a nervous wreck.
Nervous wreck.
And do you have it there?
I don't know which clip you're talking about.
Oh.
Well, that's a good question because I don't know either.
Let me take a look at the list.
Well, in that case, why don't I start off with who came up first?
Let me see.
Bernie Sanders.
My God, my eyes are so bad today.
It's really, really horrible.
Okay, here we go.
Bernie Sanders during this town hall.
It wasn't even a debate.
No, it was a very strange question and answer session.
A completely scripted little show was what it was, John.
It sucked.
It was so fake.
This was Bernie Sanders who said something...
I thought that was interesting.
I believe, you know, and Iowa has played a very interesting role in the fight for public education.
And for 100 plus years, what we have believed public education to be is up to the 12th grade.
Free public education up to the 12th grade.
Guess what?
The world has changed.
A college degree today is the equivalent of what a high school degree was 50 years ago.
Now, I'm pretty sure he means by saying it's what you need in today's society, which I disagree with.
But it is kind of a sad statement.
Because really, the education that the children in America get from college is equal to what used to be a high school education.
That's how I see it.
Well, you know, this kind of analogy is...
It's fake.
It's bullcrap.
It's just dumb.
People do this sort of thing all the time.
All he really wants is to have everybody get...
When I was a kid...
When I was a kid...
I have a college education.
I went to the University of California, Berkeley.
I didn't pay anything.
I mean, there was tuition, but it was like a couple hundred bucks.
It's a state school, correct?
And then when you went to get books, you can go to the used bookstore, you can buy used textbooks.
You didn't have to spend...
Nowadays, the textbooks are hundreds of dollars, and they're all one-offs.
Of course, of course.
You can't use it next semester.
No, because history's changed.
These books, they should be good for decades.
Oh, somehow the principles of mathematics have changed.
They change every year.
This is a scam.
I took it to be a very cynical, cynical statement.
So the scam is what?
The way they are, what Bernie Sanders wants to do is go back to what it was when you were a kid.
Yes, that's what Bernie Sanders wants.
It's become a complete money-making scam.
It's a scam.
They charge too much to go to these schools.
There's no reason for it.
They've eschewed the state.
You know, the state used to pay for most of it.
And, yeah, we don't need your money.
And the state kind of pulled back and said, we've got to build new buildings.
Most of these universities that are the solid ones, they're set in stone.
They've got a bunch of old built-Alasm monster buildings.
But, no, we want to build new buildings.
So they've got the University of California.
It's like twice the size it was when I was a kid.
It's all these new buildings.
And Janet Napolitano's running the show.
Yeah, they're chintzy buildings.
They're crappy looking.
There's no architecture.
The old campus, beautiful architecture.
It was eclectic, unlike Stanford, which pretty much looks like the same.
But Stanford didn't...
Yeah, they built new buildings too, but they didn't really mess with the architecture so much.
It's very annoying.
And then, in the case of the University of California, Berkeley...
When they solicit, you know, they're always asking for money.
They ask you as an alum, of course.
Why did they take the money that the alumni have already given them, why did they take that money and give $1 million to Barack Obama?
What are they doing giving $1 million to Barack Obama?
Is this like some sort of an extortion racket that the government's running with its colleges?
Maybe.
Maybe.
I mean, it's got to be.
What is the point of a university giving $1 million to Barack Obama's campaign?
Well, you will recall that it was the military-academic-industrial complex.
Yeah, that's how it works.
All right, let's start with, let's try this clip.
No, we're not starting.
I've already started.
While you're looking for the clip, I have another clip.
Tell me what you got.
I got Slamming Hillary.
Okay, slamming Hillary.
President, for both sides, a last-minute push to convince voters like Mary Myers.
So you caucused for Hillary in 08, and now you're undecided about her.
Yes.
Why?
There's just been so many issues that have kind of been lost.
Now, the beginning of this clip has got a meme.
I didn't notice it was a meme until I was doing the clips.
Yes, it often happens, yes.
Often happens.
The meme is, and this is on ABC, which doesn't like Hillary.
No.
So they go out of their way to slam Hillary.
It's very obvious to me.
But the meme, and it's on all the networks, is that they go up to somebody or they find somebody that was...
Pro-Hillary right to the last minute, but now they're changing their minds.
And the one that I didn't have clipped because it was mostly visual, I think it was on CBS, they had, oh, here's a woman, she's got a Hillary button on and she's changing her mind at the last minute.
She's not so much for Hillary anymore.
And she shakes her head, I don't think so, I'm not going to vote for Hillary.
And then she said, well, what's your percentage?
Well, I think 51-49, I'm not going to, I'm going to go for...
You know, anybody.
Okay, so is that your setup?
No, I'm just, that's the beginning of this clip happened to have that little meme in there.
I wanted to explain it.
President, for both sides, a last-minute push to convince voters like Mary Myers.
So you caucused for Hillary in 08, and now you're undecided about her.
Yes.
Why?
There's just been so many issues that have kind of been brought to life that make you kind of second-guess where she stands.
In the last forum before Monday's big caucus, one young voter confronting Hillary Clinton head on.
I've heard from quite a few people my age that they think you're dishonest, but I'd like to hear from you on why you feel the enthusiasm isn't there.
Look, I've been around a long time.
People have thrown all kinds of things at me.
But if you're new to politics, if it's the first time you've really paid attention, you go, oh my gosh, look at all of this.
And you have to say to yourself, why are they throwing all of that?
Well, I'll tell you why.
Because I've been on the front lines of change and progress since I was your age.
I have a little longer version of that clip, and I pulled it specifically in a longer version, because she had a three and a half minute answer, which I chopped down.
I'd like to play that again.
What I found interesting is who this kid is.
Because like the spontaneous town hall meeting that it was, the control room was very able to bring up everybody's lower third name Chiron just in seconds.
It was amazing how well they do this.
It was astonishing.
I'm telling you, these guys, you had no idea for such an impromptu little deal.
This kid's name, let me see, he is, here it is.
Taylor Gipple.
And Taylor Gipple is not just some little millennial.
He works for Principal Financial Group in Iowa.
This is a huge contributor to the DNC. Huge contributor.
And they just happen to have their guy there who is a millennial.
And if you look at his...
Let me see what his age is.
I looked him up on his...
A LinkedIn page.
He's about 30.
Yeah, so that's not, you know, an older millennial.
And have a listen to how she addressed him in full.
Let me help you up here.
That's because, what's his face, Cuomo said, oh, he's thinking of voting for Bernie.
Well, let me help you up here.
It feels like there's a lot of young people like myself who are very passionate supporters of Bernie Sanders, and I just don't see the same enthusiasm from younger people for you.
In fact, I've heard from quite a few people my age that they think you're dishonest, but I'd like to hear from you on why you feel the enthusiasm isn't there.
Well, I think it really depends upon who you're seeing and talking to.
Look, I've been around a long time.
People have thrown all kinds of things at me.
And, you know, I can't keep up with it.
I just keep going forward.
They fall by the wayside.
They come up with these outlandish things.
They make these charges.
I just keep going forward because there's nothing to it.
They throw all this stuff at me, and I'm still standing.
But if you're new to politics, if it's the first time you've really paid attention, you go, Oh my gosh!
Look at all of this!
And you have to say to yourself, why are they throwing all of that?
Well, I'll tell you why.
Because I've been on the front lines of change and progress since I was your age.
I have been fighting to give kids and women and the people who are left out and left behind...
See, as she's ramping this up, to me, first of all, we know these questions are all pre-screened.
Everybody knows what's going on.
This was her first question out of the gate, and she wanted that specifically to address this head-on and to do this ramp-up screaming monologue.
Make the motion.
Well, I agree.
Listen to it.
Many, many millions of dollars spent against me.
Boy, the insurance companies, the drug companies, they spent millions.
She's...
She's in bed with the insurance companies, yet they spend millions against her.
Oh my goodness.
Not just against the issue, but against me.
And 8 million kids have insurance because of that today.
So you've got to keep going.
She says that she did it.
How did she do it?
Let her finish her rant.
No.
That's my hope for you and for all the young people who are getting involved this first time.
Don't get discouraged.
It's hard.
If it were easy, hey, there wouldn't be any contest.
But it's not easy.
There are very different visions, different values, different forces at work.
And you have to have somebody who is a proven Proven.
Proven fighter.
Somebody who has taken them on and won and kept going and will do that as president.
That's why I hope you'll reconsider.
She made some mistakes there.
A couple of things.
You've got to replay the cut-down version.
Oh, they completely, I know, that's what I like so much about it.
They completely, yes, I'll get it.
A couple of things, let's take a look at, because this is a good deconstruction, because this is ABC again, and like I prefaced it with, they don't like her.
Right.
So they took out all the, they took out the applause, they took out her spiel, her positive, and made her look like an idiot.
Yes, yes.
It's great.
Yeah, they did exactly that.
Now, what really got me was this obvious flub, which was just beautiful.
I've got another question for you.
Brett Rosengren, he's from Logan, Iowa, is going to school, works as a supervisor for a janitorial company, says he's undecided, has a question.
Great.
Secretary Clinton, sorry.
I can see why they gave you this question.
Whoa!
Okay, so this is a twisted mind-bender.
The kid stands up, flubs, says Sanders, and then he says, I mean, Clinton, he then says, Secretary Clinton, and then he says, I can see why they gave you this question, addressing Hillary.
So he was given a question to ask her.
It's not his question.
It's not his question.
Ugh.
Ridiculous.
If you're going to script this thing like this and make it a giant...
Get some real actors.
Well, you don't know that.
Spend a little money, people.
Spend a little money.
Get some actors in there.
I thought O'Malley was interesting because he was probably the first politician who has said what climate change really is all about.
And I liked his little, this was the only thing worth it from him.
The website, martinomalley.com.
But you know what I believe is the biggest issue that I think you should be concerned about as a young person who has more time on this planet than I do?
And that is climate change.
Is he going to get votes with this?
I love his inflection.
He didn't say climate change.
He said climate change.
You don't hear that often.
You know, it's funny.
I was watching some show, this crazy game show called Hollywood Game or something.
And the woman who is that actress, I can't remember her name, but you know her.
She says Lady Gaga.
Hello.
You don't actually get outside if you say Lady Gaga.
Lady Gaga.
Alright, let's go back.
So, climate change.
Not climate change.
Climate change.
There's a young person who has more time on this planet than I do.
Climate change.
And that is climate change.
I'll ask it again.
Does this joker think that's going to get him votes?
Well, here's what he said.
Hey, honey, we've got to get down and vote because of climate change.
Well, you didn't see the town hall, I don't think.
I did.
I thought what he said after this...
We won't be so judgmental, John Gaga.
And that is climate change.
Climate change is the greatest business opportunity to come to the United States in 100 years.
I like that, because that is the truth.
It is 100% business opportunity.
And the Democrats are all in on the business opportunity of climate change.
And I am the first candidate in either party to put forward a plan to move us to a 100% clean electric energy grid by 2050 and create 5 million jobs along the way.
He's going to create 5 million jobs over the course of 35 years.
Wow!
We need this guy as president.
That's aggressive.
And this is another one of those instances, Chris, where Iowa is pointing the way forward.
Look at what you have already done in your state.
Yes, just look at it.
30 to 35 percent of your energy now comes from clean Iowa wind.
There's your clean...
I was thinking the same thing.
Your clean Iowa wind.
Exactly.
Okay, Ben, did I have something else here?
I think I had, we had trustworthiness.
Now, that was pretty much anything that was interesting from that rehearsal.
But, we had a lot of other crazy things happen, and one of, obviously, incredibly fun for a program like No Agenda, is Donald Trump deciding he will not participate in the Fox-hosted debate this evening.
Now, I have the rundown of that on ABC, which is waffling between candidates.
And...
I'm not sure what...
Well, before we do that, I have a 2 of the 3x3 for us.
A 2 of a 3x3.
So I think I get the jingle.
And now it's time for 3x3.
Experiment by JCD. Comparing stories from ABC, CBS, and NBC. The never-ending 3x3.
And now in its 13th month.
So here is ABC on Trump possibly or more than likely not participating in the debate.
Tonight Donald Trump in full renegade mode predicting without him no one will watch tomorrow's debate on Fox News.
Fox News responded with this snarky statement.
We learn from a secret back channel that the Ayatollah and Putin both intend to treat Donald Trump unfairly.
Trump has his own secret plan to replace the cabinet with his Twitter followers.
Just hours later at a news conference, Trump's fury in full frame.
The GOP frontrunner eviscerating Fox News, Kelly, and her boss, Roger Ailes.
All right.
Then we had NBC. This is that Bloomberg guy, Halperin.
He's on MSNBC or NBC. If Trump's running any risk, it's that some voters in Iowa may say this is immature.
But I think that risk is relatively small, particularly for the people already supporting Trump who will look at this not as a petulant move, but as a move of strength.
I like that they pulled in the petulant.
Which, of course, was a word that we never heard used in this entire political cycle until the Republicans started calling President Obama a petulant child, Chris Christie, to be exact.
So that has very interesting connotations regarding race.
That's a good catch.
Yeah, well, and here is...
And I've heard it a couple times.
It's a meme.
You're right.
And here is Chuck Todd.
These guys actually, I think they kind of like what Trump is doing here.
Well, they like it because it's screwing Fox, obviously.
Here we go.
Iowans could be offended by the idea.
But here's where it could be a shrewd move.
Look, debates haven't been Donald Trump's best moments.
The most recent debate was probably his best...
He has to throw that in there.
He's Chuck Todd.
The debate was probably his best debate.
What's he talking about?
He's just talking.
But watch, he's going to give Trump some props.
The most recent debate was probably his best debate, but that's grading a little bit on a curve.
He's been fine.
So here's why it could be a shrewd move.
Trump not being there, there's no way he can make a mistake and say the wrong thing.
But guess what could happen?
His chief rival in Iowa, Ted Cruz, after five minutes of bashing Donald Trump for being there, what do you think the rest of the candidates are going to do?
Are they going to continue to go after Donald Trump?
Are they going to start piling on Ted Cruz?
And who benefits more from that?
Donald Trump.
This could end up being a very shrewd move by the front.
A shrewd move!
Shrewd move!
Getting props from the Chuck Todd!
And I'm pretty sure that he's not going...
I got the announcement of his event for tonight.
He's not going to go to the debate.
That is not happening.
He's not showing up.
For sure.
I don't know what they would do if he did.
They said, well, the Fox had a press release, and they said, oh, no, we're still welcoming Mr.
Trump.
He's more than happy to join us.
But he's rented out...
The hall holds, I think, 4,000 or 5,000 people, some auditorium.
Look at it.
Fox is going to have...
The debate on tonight, he won't be there.
CNN, MSNBC, everyone's going to be covering the Trump event, because they don't have the rights to air the debate.
So it is going to hurt them.
Now, what kills me, well, doesn't kill me about this, what shows, I think it's the premise that we came up with a long time ago regarding Fox, is that it's run by the Democrats.
Right?
It's run by the Democrats.
And I think we have proof now.
Because this was a complete Roger Ailes, the owner of Fox.
It was his move.
He's not the owner of Fox.
Yeah, but he runs the Fox.
He runs the Fox.
He runs the Fox.
And here's Glenn Beck.
They make an argument in the magazine that Ted Cruz has also made, which is that you're not...
Beck was on CNN with Cuomo.
Beck is going everywhere now to discredit after he announced his endorsement for Ted Cruz.
And this is the phrase, a consistent conservative, that you've changed your positions on some things over time.
What's your response to that critique?
I'm sorry, this is the wrong clip.
Fuck.
Here's Beck.
This is the one I wanted.
But when you have a guy who is angry and then has an enemies list and starts just to take people down over and over and over again, if you disagree with him, he destroys you.
If that's the mood of the country, we're in more trouble than I thought.
Well, but here's the thing.
Is there a little bit of reap what you sow in some of this for the GOP, that engendering an oppositional mode towards government, in ratcheting up negativity as a mainline discourse, you wound up somewhat birthing Donald Trump, and now some of those people who were angry about what was going on...
I know.
Well, wait for his answer.
It gets better.
...and telling people to be angry.
Now they've got somebody who's harnessing the power of exactly that, and you're disappointed.
Well, I'm not disappointed.
I've warned against this.
I mean, you go back on my shows on Fox, and I warned the progressive movement, and that's what this is.
Donald Trump is a progressive, make no mistake.
Saying he's a Democrat, pretty much.
And then Ann Coulter was on MSNBC with Chris Matthews.
What is going to happen here tomorrow night?
Will he or won't he show up?
Donald Trump.
I hope he doesn't.
I mean, he's established himself as the real...
As an aside, you know, Ann Coulter's hair looks dynamite.
It's so clean and fresh.
Have you seen Meghan's second iteration of her short haircut?
I don't like it.
I don't like it.
She looks like Rachel Maddow.
Oh, makes sense.
Of course.
Yeah, another one.
We lose another one.
Alpha dog here, as if he hasn't already.
And look, I like a lot of things about Ted Cruz, but one of his Achilles heels is he does not have a sense of humor.
And I would ask you to imagine, what if NBC had released such a press release to a Republican candidate before a debate?
It really is kind of shocking, and I think Trump is shaking up the way people look at Fox News as maybe not always our network.
Why do you think Roger Ailes had to sign off, I assume, on any PR that went out?
It was sarcastic as hell.
It made fun of Trump.
It made fun of him.
It made the front-running candidate for the Republican nomination for president.
It made him into sort of a little chicken.
And why would...
Just last question, because I want to ask Dana a little bit here.
Why would Roger Ailes start a fight that could cost him, God, 15, 20 million people tomorrow night?
Finally a good question.
Watching.
No, that's right.
And that's why Trump has established himself as the alpha dog.
Well, I suppose because Fox News, I mean, I don't know.
I don't know if Ailes even saw it.
But monopolies can get arrogant.
And there does seem to be a little bit of arrogance here.
It's believed that Ailes wrote it.
Yes, of course he did.
Of course he did.
He wanted to undermine Trump, as was his mission.
And Trump was already talking about maybe not showing up three days ago.
He says, you know, I don't know about Megyn Kelly, but, you know, and then Ailes started writing these stupid little press releases.
I think the key to understanding this is that if this was a neutral battle and you weren't correct about Fox being just anti-Trump, and possibly run by the Democrats...
Megan, when this first began, she would have begged off.
It would have put her in a great position.
Of course.
She would have recused herself.
Yeah.
Imagine this is a publicity stunt for her.
And I'm thinking they didn't let her do this, but I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't even attempt it because this is taking one for the team.
This is what you do.
Yeah.
You come up and you say, well, it seems that I was unfair.
And if you want to blast Trump, this technique would also be the way to do it.
I was seemingly unfair the first time, so I'm going to recuse myself from this debate.
I'm going to bring in Dana Perino or somebody else.
And I'll be honest about it.
It's probably right that I do this because I really do not like Donald Trump.
Yeah, yeah.
I think he's a jerk.
That would have made her look dynamite.
That would be dynamite, because she would then, she'd say, so I will take myself out of this, and I will not be into this debate.
She would get everybody to come to her side.
Yeah.
But she didn't do that.
Now, why wouldn't she do that?
Is she just a jerk?
She wouldn't do it?
She wants to fight him again?
No, there's no reason in the world for her not to recuse herself.
It was the setup.
And for Fox to say, oh, you can't dictate who the moderators are, you can't dictate the questions.
That was pretty much their reply.
Yeah.
Well, play this clip in the middle of these clips of yours.
This is the Fox vs.
Trump vs.
Fox.
This is on CNN. Apparently you've stolen my beat and I've gone to your beat to get this sort of material.
A risk.
I will also say, just to step back a second, this guy is basically at war with every power center in the Republican Party.
There was a rule in politics that you don't go to war with Fox News and Roger Ailes because that network is too powerful and too influential in Republican politics.
Come here, he is.
And Trump has been at war with them all season, and he is winning.
He is at war with the conservative intelligentsia, from National Review to every conservative columnist in the opinion pages, and he's winning.
This is essentially a hostile takeover by Trump and his fans of the Republican Party that we're watching in real time.
So something very interesting happened with his announcement that he would be doing an event during the debate for veterans and wounded warriors.
Now, there's two things that are interesting about this.
One, Sarah Palin messed up, although she didn't say it.
It stuck to her that she was using veterans and wounded warriors, not the organization, but wounded warriors as a group of people.
To slam the president.
So Trump is very, very smart by weaving in wounded warriors and veterans.
Oh, but we're all for that.
Just remember, we're the guys who are all for them.
And CBS... By some amazing coincidence, comes out with this.
With a gift of just $19 a month, you can join Wounded Warrior Project.
In its commercials, Wounded Warrior Project appeals to the American public's generosity.
And it works.
In 2014 alone, the group received more than $300 million in donations.
Their mission is to honor and empower wounded warriors.
What the public doesn't see is how they spend their money.
Army Staff Sergeant Eric Millett came home from Iraq in 2006 with a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart, along with a traumatic brain injury and PTSD. Initially, he admired the charity's work and participated in its programs, and he got a shout-out from the President.
Then there's Staff Sergeant Eric Millett.
He took a job as a public speaker with Wounded Warrior Project in 2013, but he quit after witnessing what he calls lavish spending on parties for executives and staff.
We're using our injuries, our darkest days, our hardships.
To make money.
So you can have these big parties.
Let's get a Mexican mariachi band in there.
Let's get maracas made with the Wounded Warrior Project logo.
Put them on every staff member's desk.
Let's get it catered.
Let's have a big old party.
Staying at a lavish hotel at the beach here in Jacksonville, One Ocean.
And requiring staff that lives in the area to stay at the hotel.
CBS News spoke to more than 40 former employees who described a charity where spending was out of control.
These two former employees were so fearful of retaliation, they asked us not to show their faces.
It was extremely extravagant.
Dinners and alcohol and just total access.
For a charitable organization that's serving veterans, all this expense on expensive resorts and alcohol, it seems...
I mean, it's what the military calls fraud, waste, and abuse.
So this would not be your no agenda show if we didn't go and look into the organization.
The timing is very interesting.
Mm-hmm.
I happen to have the exact same clip.
Except I took to play the clip a little longer than that because the best part of the clip comes after what you just stopped.
Well, that's because I wanted to mention that.
You mean about the money?
But since you're at the point where you are, I do want to mention a couple of things.
One, living at a hotel, even though you live nearby, is not an uncommon thing for any organization.
No, that's how it works when you're doing a team building.
Everybody stays.
You've got to get up for the breakfast meetings and all the rest.
Everybody stays.
So that, everybody does it.
Mariachi band's also not too crazy for a little get-together.
It's not going crazy.
Also, the hotel that they showed and cited...
It's a piece of shit.
And then they keep mentioning dinner and alcohol, alcohol, alcohol.
And I'm not absolutely sure what they were trying to prove with that.
But this was...
Now, they do have one good number in this thing that is kind of a jaw-dropper, which is the actual expense numbers.
But that's what I wanted to...
That's what I wanted to go through the 990s.
The rest of it...
The rest...
I just want to point...
When people get to that, I want them to listen carefully after that when they talk about this guy they're doing the hit piece on, which is this new boss.
Right.
So...
They do something right after this, and you've just got to listen to it.
They say, and here he is.
They make him sound like an egomania, because here he comes into the event repelling.
Yeah, he's repelling on a horse.
He was on a Segway.
And on a Segway.
Yeah.
And they make a big deal as though these guys coming into the event on a segue is some sort of waste or expensive proposition.
I don't know what the point is.
It's a hit piece.
I've been to a million of these events and these assholes are always doing shit like this.
It's a hit piece.
That's what it is.
Okay, here are the numbers real quick.
In 2014, Wounded Warriors raised $342 million.
And at the end of the year, they had $248 million left over.
A couple of things that you should know.
So it's a huge organization.
Lots of people send money to it.
And if you look at their charter, which is probably good to read so you understand what they do.
I think it's...
Here it is.
Wounded Warrior Project, Inc.
is a not-for-profit 501c3 corporation incorporated February 23rd for the purposes of providing vital programs and services to severely wounded service members and veterans in order to support their transition to civilian life and well-adjusted citizens, both physically and mentally.
The mission of the organization is to honor and empower wounded warriors.
Our purpose is threefold to raise awareness.
That's an interesting flub, awareness.
And enlist the public's aid for the needs of severely injured servicemen and women.
So they are a lobbying organization.
When you are in the lobbying business, you need parties and alcohol.
That's how it works.
That's how it works.
I'm not defending them, but I too was surprised at $300 million.
You couldn't see it, but when they played it, you can hear it said, we had to black them out because they were afraid of repercussions.
This was bull.
Yeah, of course.
And these two guys blacked out.
The CEO, Stephen Nardisi, what do you think he makes at a non-profit?
Probably two mil?
No, no.
It's exactly on par with Planned Parenthood.
Two mil?
No, 473.
That's all he makes?
No wonder he's having these keys.
Nobody has to drive a Segway.
The chief operating officer, 369.
Okay, these are reasonable private fees.
Yeah, for this size of organization.
Now, here I have...
Here's the revenue.
Federated campaigns, $4 million.
Fundraising events, $640,000.
All other contributions, gift grants, and similar amounts, $307 million.
Of which only $41 million comes from the United States government.
So the rest they raise themselves, and the people who raise that...
They also have $211 million in publicly traded securities.
This is not uncommon for a big organization, but they certainly have more money than they seem to be able to spend, or they're expecting a lot more wars.
And let me see, the organization that does this, I love this.
Okay, it is...
Well, first of all, they did send some money to Europe, $5.7 million to Europe, just for whatever, it doesn't specify.
But the fundraising was interesting.
Here it is.
Creative Direct Response.
And I looked these guys up.
Creative Direct Response is in Bowie, Maryland.
And they do...
This is all they do.
They do fundraising for non-profits.
They raised in 2014 with call-outs and envelopes and mailings $110 million.
And they kept $2.9 million.
What a business!
Great business.
Well, they're definitely not gouging.
No, no.
So yeah, what they spend on conferences and travel?
Yeah, $25 million.
That is less than 10% of their overall take.
And it's Wounded Warriors.
The whole point is to make these guys and gals happy, integrated.
I don't know.
In all big organizations with a lot of money, there's always going to be a whole bunch of crap going on.
But the way CBS positioned this, and like you said...
Okay, let's make sure we mention something that we've observed starting at 3x3.
CBS hates Trump.
And they're Democrats.
And that's a Viacom, or former Viacom, I guess there's still some religious people like Sumner Redstone who hate Trump.
And we have...
It's a Hillary operation.
And ABC is a Jeb Bush operation, but they...
Bush is out of it, so they're repositioning themselves.
NBC is harder to identify because they're a former Defense Department contractor, General Electric company, NBC. And now they're owned by Comcast, and Comcast is a conservative operation.
I think that this is becoming an issue within the company as we're starting to see MSNBC dissolved into different kinds of shows, moving some people to Sunday, getting rid of some other people.
Ed Schultz is done, and he's working for...
You know where Ed Schultz turned out?
Yeah, RT. Yeah, I know.
It's great.
RT. So he's hit the bottom of the barrel.
Now...
He's working for change and tips.
Now you saw this package of Wounded Warriors.
They had this on the shelf.
It was 11 minutes.
They had this on the shelf.
It was waiting.
Very long.
You didn't produce that in a day.
There's just no way.
You don't do it that way.
This was sitting on the can ready to go.
So they were ready because, I think, of Trump's wounded warriors consistently saying this.
Wounded warriors, wounded warriors.
They had this set up.
It is a total political move by CBS to do that.
It was well done.
Oh, it was well done.
If you didn't pay careful attention to it.
But it was when you started hearing about how horrible it was that this guy was rappelling down the wall.
Then you know it was a hit piece.
Coming in on a segue.
Well, let's play that piece.
Where is it?
Well, that's the one that says...
Right.
But it's not at the beginning.
Our injuries.
Our darkest days.
Our hardships.
Okay, let's try here.
All this expense on expensive resorts and alcohol, it seems...
I mean, it's what the military calls fraud, waste, and abuse.
According to the charity's tax forms, spending on conferences and meetings went from $1.7 million in 2010 to $26 million in 2014.
Again, it's lobbying.
That's the number.
That's the nut graph, as it were.
Yeah.
That is the part where you go.
Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Holy mackerel.
Look at all the money.
Now you're susceptible.
Although they don't say, you know, we had all these wounded warriors coming back in that same period.
That's why it went up.
Now you're susceptible.
Oh, $25 million.
Oh, no.
What else could be going on there?
And so then you can drop these little gems in there like he came in on a horse as though that's some sort of a crazy, crazy expense.
The same amount the group spends on combat stress recovery.
It's top program.
Former employees say spending has skyrocketed since Stephen Nardisi took over as CEO in 2009.
Many point to the 2014 annual meeting at a luxury resort in Colorado Springs as typical of his style.
His style!
He rappelled down the side of a building.
You mean to make a grand entrance?
Yes.
Yeah, and he's come in on a Segway.
He's come in on a horse.
Woo!
About 500 staff members attended the four-day conference in Colorado.
The price tag?
About $3 million.
Donors don't want you to have a $2,500 bar tab.
People can listen to the whole thing in the show notes.
$2,500 bar tab?
Whatever.
This is peanuts for a $300 million organization?
Yeah.
And their annual meeting, their one-shot meeting of all the staffers, 500 people to get them out of the office, and you have a $2,500 bar tab, and this is a big deal?
Yeah, it just sounds extraordinary.
But they play it breathless.
It's breathless.
Oh, oh, oh, oh!
This is the height of naivety that CBS should be ashamed of themselves for doing a piece like this.
Because to actually try to make you think that a $2,500 bar tab for 500 people, what's that?
Five bucks?
What is a $2,500 by five?
A hundred.
No.
Ten.
I don't know.
Five.
It's $5.50.
I don't know.
I'm looking at it.
50?
Yeah, it's 50 bucks.
Yeah.
Now, 50 bucks for a whole event per head at a resort.
I don't care if it's inexpensive.
Where are you going to take these guys?
The Holiday Inn?
I think you've made your point.
Here is an interview with Trump.
Where I learned something.
The ongoing question, of course, if Trump is a Democrat, is he the right kind of Republican?
They make an argument in the magazine that Ted Cruz has also made, which is that you're not, and this is the phrase, a consistent conservative, that you've changed your positions on some things over time.
What's your response to that critique?
Well, usually I just evoke the name Ronald Reagan.
I mean, Ronald Reagan was a fairly liberal Democrat, and he evolved over years, and he became more and more conservative.
And he was not a very conservative person, but he was pretty conservative, and he ended up being a great president.
And I have evolved on many issues, and on some issues I'm very much the same.
I've been constant on many issues, but I have evolved on certain issues.
I think it evolved, you know, through experience and through as you grow older, you see things and you watch things and you study things.
But Ronald Reagan was the exact same thing.
He was actually much more liberal than I was.
He was fairly liberal as a Democrat, but a lot of people don't know that.
And he became a fairly conservative person, but he did become a great president.
I didn't know that Ronald Reagan was a Democrat before he joined the Republican Party.
Yeah, he was a big union guy.
He's the one who, if he didn't start it, he was the head of the Screen Actors Guild, and he was a big radical Democrat in the 30s and 40s.
Up until 62.
Yeah.
Oh, by the way, it was $5.
500 people, $5, $2,500.
Yeah, $5.
Yeah.
Hey, don't drink it all in one gulp, people.
So, yeah, it was $5.
So, $5 a head for the alcohol tab.
Yeah.
You made your point.
I can't get over it.
I know you can, but you have to.
Uh.
Just a quick ditty from Trump, since you won't be hearing from him tonight.
I thought this was kind of fun.
Now, bottom line, I will do a number on ISIS like you wouldn't believe.
But I don't want to sit here and tell you every single thing I want to do.
You know, at some point, we're warriors, right?
At some point, you have to surprise the enemy.
I mean, I watch these guys like Lindsey Graham, who's just not a smart person.
He says, we have to go here with this number of people.
We have to attack them from this level and this level.
Wouldn't it be nice if we could surprise them and knock the hell out of them?
I just get tickled by it.
It wasn't quite as good as Congressman Tom Marino, though.
I caught this on some talk show.
But here's what we have to concentrate on, and this president just will not do it.
We have to kill them all.
We have to kill everyone in ISIS, as many and as quickly as possible.
Oops.
We've got to kill them, John.
Wow.
Yeah, I know.
Last bit, as far as I'm concerned, for the elections 2016, there is a lot of concern about the burn.
A lot of concern about the burn.
Oh, they would like to get this guy out of there.
Oh, they do not like him.
Here's super elite Andrea Mitchell with Matthews.
If Bernie Sanders and it's neck and neck, if those kids turn out, if he wins Iowa, and he's going to win New Hampshire, most likely.
After two primary victories, you're going to see chaos on the Democratic side.
You're going to see Uncle Joe Biden saying, well, maybe I should get back in.
Well, you know, there's one firewall we haven't talked about, and I don't know how you erect that firewall.
It's women.
And I asked Secretary Clinton, and you know her very well, and I said, does it surprise you or disturb you that a lot of young women don't realize what you've been through?
They're stupid, is what he's saying.
What she's been through.
She's so stupid.
Yeah.
A philandering husband?
Is that what he's talking about?
Yeah, I guess.
I think it's been so rough for her to be a woman, to make it to where she is.
So rough for her.
It's been so tough.
It's not easy for anybody.
I don't think the UK Parliament has had discussions about banning her from entering the country.
I don't know how rough it is.
Susan Sarandon jumped in.
I like her as an actress.
Her politics are interesting.
She's a nutcase.
And of course we know that she runs the Oscars So White nominations for actresses.
She's on the Board of Governors.
You okay?
Yeah, I'm good.
Oh, I thought something dropped.
No, no.
And she had the distinct pleasure of introducing Bernie Sanders, and boy, she's all in.
Unsold and pure, and we now have the opportunity to make that man our choice for the President of the United States.
Yay!
And he's right, you know, change is difficult.
And what this man is asking of us is to be the machine now.
I give you Bernie Sanders.
You ready for it?
I give you Bernie Sanders.
All right, clip of the day.
Oh, crap.
It's been so long since I got one of those, I wasn't even expecting it.
Oh, my.
Let me play it one more time.
Let me play it one more time.
I love that so much.
He's, like, crying.
Poor, poor, poor lady.
I give you Bernie Sanders.
Woo-hoo!
I give you Bernie Sanders.
Woo-hoo!
Keep that as an ISO. Oh, I have it as an ISO, of course.
I cut it as an ISO, expecting the ISO, not expecting.
Clip of the day.
Okay, I have a...
Well, I've got an ISO, by the way.
Hold on a second.
I'm setting some stuff up here.
Okay.
What's your ISO? Well, I actually...
I think you can use this throughout the show.
Mm-hmm.
Throughout any show.
I could use it on the daily source code.
You could play.
I agree 100%.
I think that's great analysis.
Yes.
There's a couple of things we've got to get out of the way here.
One of them is O'Reilly is...
There was a good analysis, I don't have any clips, I'll just summarize, on Charlie Rose.
They had a couple of guys on there about discussing Roger Ailes and everybody else and this thing going on with Trump.
And Rose is getting a kick out of it.
And he's almost like lively.
He's getting such a kick out of it.
This guy goes on about how...
This guy that was on Charlie Rose goes on about how Trump has been set up by Fox to fail.
And he had all these theories.
But Carson ends up on O'Reilly.
And they talked about O'Reilly.
And O'Reilly's apparently...
This guy mentioned O'Reilly's having a little feud with Kelly because she's getting all the attention.
And...
And so O'Reilly's doing what he can, so he brings Trump on the show, and he brings him on there.
Did he give Trump a whole bunch of advice, tell him what to do, that he's not doing it right?
Well, he always does that.
Yeah, I know.
But listen to this.
I thought the thing that was more interesting, he had Carson on.
This is Carson and O'Reilly, and this came on, and there's something that was said in here that I do want to discuss as a deconstruction, because...
Well, play the Carson on O'Reilly clip.
That's reasonable.
Now, do you believe in general the press has been fair to you?
I know you've taken some hits from the left-wing press, but you just expect that.
But just overall, do you think you've been reported on in an accurate way?
Overall, I would say no.
I mean, you look at the attacks about my Yale course, about West Point, about my temper, all of which have been disproven, but do the press ever come back and say, oh, well, we found this and that was not true?
Of course not, because their narrative is that this guy is somebody that you can't trust.
They want to keep that out there, recognizing that most people won't go to page 26 and see what the actual deal is.
The correction, right.
But again, I expect...
But that's to be expected, because that's what's happened to our press.
You know, the press is the only business that's protected by our Constitution.
The reason is because they were supposed to be on the side of the people, and they were supposed to be objective.
By taking sides, they have completely distorted the original intent.
I agree 100%.
I think that's great analysis.
This is bull crap.
Yeah.
The press has never been objective.
In fact, if you look back in history, most of the newspapers were called like the Abilene Republican.
Yeah, they were yellow journalism.
That's where the term comes from.
Yellow journalism actually came after this, the earlier period where you had most of the papers were named like the Press Democrat over here locally.
The Democrat and Republican was in the title of the newspaper.
And they were Democrats.
The press Democrat at the time of its founding was solid Democrat.
They were only supporting the Democrats.
They were pushing the Democrats.
They were pushing the Democrat agenda.
Newspapers were extremely biased.
They weren't lacking bias.
They were all biased.
It was the reason for the up...
And all of a sudden the emergence of the journalism schools was to kind of push Tampa down a little bit because it was out of control.
These guys are full of crap historically, and I find it offensive that they promote this sort of nonsense.
It's bullshit.
You're feisty today.
Well, good.
I'm annoyed.
Then let's get right into a local story from Texas.
You're going to give me a pet peeve on that.
No, it needs to be angrier.
Sure, John, no problem.
I'll edit it together in post.
We'll fix it in post.
It'll be fine.
We had a grand jury indictment here in Texas earlier this week of the guys who made the video at Planned Parenthood.
Now, And I want you to explain a little bit about the grand jury process in a moment, because grand juries are also the people who have famously not indicted white cops who have killed black kids, even though the term in legal circles in America, I think, goes, you can get a grand jury to indict a ham sandwich.
And in this case, it was great to have this indictment.
This is not a verdict.
This is an indictment?
It's just an indictment.
Well, here's the piece.
DeLeden says their undercover techniques were the same as other investigative journalists, a point underscored by constitutional scholars like Cornell University's Michael Dorff.
This could set a dangerous precedent and chill undercover investigations by legitimate journalists.
The tactics are often used by so-called citizen journalists, activists from environmentalists to animal rights groups seeking to expose wrongdoing.
Okay, this is interesting.
Now, again, it's not a verdict that is, although Miss Richards was out everywhere celebrating like, ah, now finally justice.
This does not say anything.
And it came up on CBS This Morning, and Charlie Rose, who is still tired, but he woke up momentarily because I think he saw that something was off with this.
But, of course, it's CBS This Morning, but they're not really discussing the true implications of this kind of movement.
Planned Parenthood has been accused of illegally profiting from fetal tissue, and yet what does this grand jury do?
Well, the grand jury does exactly the opposite of what was expected.
The district attorney and the grand jury had the task of going after and investigating Planned Parenthood.
Instead, the grand jury, two months later, after considering all of the evidence, comes out and indicts the people who were the pro-life people, who were the people who took the videos.
Why did they indict these two individuals who had made these videos?
And the point is what they indicted them for, cooperating with government records.
Thank you, Charlie, because they were not indicted for all that much.
I think that the charges are really intriguing.
There's a law called tampering with the government record.
What's the record?
What you have here is a fake ID of a fake company that goes in and gets access where it wouldn't have access.
Felony!
They're indicted for the felony for this, for creating a fake badge.
He's also indicted for a misdemeanor.
But is there an exception for journalists?
Well, he says there is.
No, but does the law say there is?
Well, the law may say there is, because we know that journalists have been able to go in undercover, but we also know that there have been civil suits against journalists.
So his defense is, look, I use my First Amendment right, I'm just like a journalist.
All right, it's interesting.
I don't know any journalists that use fake IDs, but that's me.
No, but they certainly have gone in.
What?
I know, but I know.
This is where it's headed, John.
Laura is an idiot.
Here comes the licensing for being a journalist.
This is what it's going to come down to.
This guy is completely a journalist.
He may have an agenda.
That's okay.
It's not like other journalists don't have an agenda.
But, no, you falsified an ID, and that is tampering with government property.
Well, apparently, the way I understand it, it could be wrong, is that he took his regular driver's license, like a California driver's license.
Oh, that would make sense.
That makes sense.
Put a little overlay on it.
Oh, he tampered with government.
I mean, come on.
With government-issued documents.
And I'm pretty sure we've had many high-ranking, highly admired journalists who have done similar things to get a story.
Whether they're biased or not is irrelevant.
If you say, I'm a journalist, then...
Anyway, that's going to end.
It's just going to end.
And viewers might remember that Mike Wallace on 60 Minutes did something very similar in Chicago.
Set up a sting to expose corruption.
Use phony everything to do it.
Undercover journalism is usually protected.
This is very unusual.
Okay, but these people are an accredited journalist.
Correct.
Oh, accredited.
Accredited.
If this comes back to Nancy Pelosi, remember she had that law?
The bill that she wanted, you have to have worked for so many years for...
Was it Pelosi or Feinstein?
I don't know.
One of the two, it doesn't make any difference.
I think it was Feinstein.
But yeah.
Of course, which is completely against the First Amendment.
But I don't know if anyone stands up for these things anymore.
I thought it was abhorrent that they pulled that stunt.
And I don't believe for a second, by the way.
I don't believe for a second, because the way a grand jury works is the prosecutors come in and they have pointed, they target something, and then they push the grand jury to say, it's like an investigative body.
You can bring people in and you can't plead the fifth or anything.
You have to talk when you're in there.
It's almost like...
The Inquisition more than anything.
And so you go in there, they put some bamboo splints under your thumb and they start pounding them until you tell the truth.
And then you come up and the grand jury says, I don't think we've got enough here to go on.
Okay, you can indict.
They sign a little document and it says you can indict and now they have the excuse to indict.
And They don't just all of a sudden say, well, we're going to indict something over here that's got nothing to do with what we're targeting.
If they were indeed targeting Planned Parenthood, I think this was used as an excuse.
I think the douchebag is probably the prosecutor who claims they were going after one thing.
No, it's the attorney general.
State attorney.
State attorney.
State attorney of Texas.
The Texas guy.
And now he's, oh, oh, oh, I didn't know this was going to happen.
The guy's a fake.
Vote him out, you dumb Texans.
I think this might be the Pelosi.
Let me see what this is.
Why, from every political analysis that we see, and including top people in your party, don't believe that the Democrats have a message that can give the House of Representatives back?
What government shutdown?
Why are these things not resonating with the electorate and won't resonate with the electorate?
This may not be it.
Well, first of all, we need you to be messengers about what is actually going on here.
That's what she wants.
Apart from that, we have come forward with when our middle class jumpstart.
Yeah.
Somewhere I have a clip of her doing that.
That's a good clip.
Yeah, but there's a better one because it was the whole bill.
I remember specifically the Pelosi.
Pelosi or finance that, but it was a bill and then we talked, you and I talked about it, that you would be eligible because you've written for a reputable organization.
They've paid you.
You've done it more than, you know, eight times a month or something.
This is where it's going.
Yeah, eventually.
It's going to be a while.
I don't think they can get away with it that easily.
And I think this other thing will be overturned on appeal.
This may be the lead-in.
But this isn't an indictment.
You don't need to appeal an indictment.
Yeah, right.
It might be thrown out.
But with that, I'd like to thank you for your courage and your passion and say in the morning to you, John C with a C stands for court indictment.
Dvorak.
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I'm just moving the personality from the drunk, not drunk kind of a thing.
Okay.
I'm pretty sure that...
I don't know for a fact, and I'm not accusing her of anything, but Megyn Kelly, in the last show she did yesterday, I have a hunch that she was...
Because of the situation with Trump, maybe she was having a few.
Really?
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But I do have one specific clip that I thought really, this is Megan in the bag or not in the bag question to you.
Thanks for having me.
It's fascinating to hear from somebody who actually knows names like Carson.
Let me listen again.
I don't think so, John.
Let me listen.
Thanks for having me.
It's fascinating to hear, you know, from somebody who actually knows, names like Carson.
She says it's fascinating.
Yeah, I heard her say it's fascinating.
Thanks for having me.
It's fascinating to hear.
Nah, it's a slip.
It's a slip.
No, I think she's on Vyvanse.
I think she's hyped.
That happens too.
She's hype and she's slurring a lot.
I think it's right, man.
And then she says, there are some women that can drink.
They're not like, what's her name?
The one that we used to target.
Oh, you mean...
Drunk again.
Drink the sign, die.
Drunk again.
Diane Sawyer.
Diane Sawyer, right.
She used to have a glass of wine on the set.
Yes, with a pill.
There's video of it.
Yeah, there's videos of it.
That's my favorite.
That's not really a new segment.
It's an old segment, I said.
It's an old segment with new personalities.
I'll keep an eye out.
So we did have some big news, which is almost not discussed at all.
It's not showing up on the face bag.
And of course, a lot of it has to do with what the news pays attention to.
But we had a pretty big event happen up there in Oregon.
Yeah, they gunned down those poor guys.
Yeah, and there's...
So first of all, what I'm waiting to hear is, finally they fucking killed them like I said they should!
No one's doing that.
Strange, isn't it?
Everyone said we should drone them, we should go in with a SWAT team and kill them.
Not so funny now that somebody's dead.
And where's the outrage?
Well, the outrage should be mainly because we don't know exactly what happened.
Yeah, they gunned this guy down.
So I have...
Suppose he had his hands in the air.
Hands up, don't shoot, I guess is what he said, and somebody thought it wasn't funny.
I have a couple clips.
First, we have the, I would say, the more official report.
This comes from the soon-to-be-defunct Al Jazeera America, and...
The gentleman in question who was killed, Lavoie Finnegan.
What happened on Tuesday was, according to eyewitnesses, was that the two cars carrying these leaders of the group had been stopped by FBI and state police on the road.
One group One surrendered peacefully and the other one apparently just let off and the authorities gave chase.
After about a kilometer or so, the car wound up in a snowbank and according to one of the members of the occupation group, the man who was killed, Lavoie Vinicum, who was the de facto spokesman for the group, Just got out of the car and charged at the law enforcement officers.
He had previously said just the previous day that he would not go peacefully.
He said that the authorities want to take us over and we will not let them.
Now, the leader of the group is in custody right now.
The question is, who is leading the group inside the compound now?
I love how they say compound.
It's gone from a shack.
To just a building, to a compound now.
It's a compound.
Here's a woman who claims that she was in the car that Lavoie was driving.
And here's her account, a piece of her account.
The full audio is in the show notes, 794.noagendanotes.com.
He put his hands out the window.
He was trying to talk to them.
He wanted the guy to do it.
He was like, I don't know if it's worth it.
So he put his hands out the window and he said, we have women in the car.
At least let the women get out.
And he stuck his head out and they shot at him.
But they missed him.
Or, like, he talked a different time.
So they didn't hit him.
And then they're like, oh, they made business.
They're going to shoot us.
And so Ryan decided to get out of the car and try to go talk to them.
And so he gets out of the car, and then the guy tried to, like, talk to them.
The driver was like, I'm just going to drive.
He's like, I'm just going to talk to the sheriff.
And he's like, so either shoot me now or leave us alone.
And they were just like, turn the car off and put your hands up and all that stuff.
So finally, he was at his drive.
So we all got down on the floorboard and he took off and then they started firing at us.
They started shooting us a bunch of times and then they had a roadblock set up.
And so he ran into a snowbank, and they were, like, reveling the car with bullets.
And then, like, when we crashed, they stopped for a second.
He got out of the car, and he had his hands in the air.
He's like, he's like, and rest.
He's like, just shoot me, man.
This is what you want.
Just shoot me.
And they did.
They shot him dead.
They shot him, like, right there, because he was just walking with his hands in the air.
And I fought.
I swear to God He was just walking with his hands in the air And they shot him And they shot him dead And then after he was down on the ground They shot him three more times And then they bombarded our vehicle With bullets flying by hitting the shoulder That's a little different account Yeah, yeah.
And so much for white privilege.
That didn't work.
Now, there are two things, and one is a throwback to two weeks ago, a clip I didn't play.
I didn't quite know what to do with it at that point.
Here is the sheriff.
Now, the sheriff, of course, is a community guy.
He's elected.
He's trying to make everything work in his community.
And the FBI spoke.
They said, we can't tell you anything.
It's an ongoing investigation.
You understand?
We can't tell you who got killed, how he got killed, or what happened.
Thanks, FBI. Doesn't sound like some of the other events where you have information quite quickly.
This is the sheriff speaking.
This guy's shaking up.
Good morning, I'm Sheriff Dave Ward.
I've been working on peaceful resolution to this problem since November 5th, when several of the individuals arrested yesterday came into my office.
They had ultimatums that I couldn't meet.
I'm here to uphold the law.
I'm disappointed that a traffic stop yesterday that was supposed to bring peaceful resolution to this ended badly.
Multiple agencies, law enforcement agencies, put a lot of work into putting together the best tactical plan they could to take these guys down peacefully and find some resolution to these issues that we're going through in our community.
It didn't have to happen.
We all make choices in life.
Sometimes our choices go bad.
The occupation at the refuge and the actions of some of the folks down there have created a lot of stress in our community.
It hasn't just been isolated to the refuge.
I think that's a point that gets missed quite a bit.
Some of these folks have spent a lot of time in town trying to stir some issues within the community.
Okay.
That triggered for me a reminder about the fire chief in town who quit His position.
He says, there's crap going on that is not okay.
He's lived in that community all his life.
And you just heard the sheriff say, you know, there's been people up here.
They've been here for a while.
And I remembered what the sheriff had said at a little impromptu press conference.
The other day, a friend of mine...
I'm sorry, the fire chief.
...poked me in the chest and said, you need to find out what your cohorts are doing at the armory.
An armory is like a gun store where you buy ammo and stuff, right?
The armory?
No, an armory is where the National Guard stores their weapons.
I think in this case they mean the armory as a gun shop, I think.
Could be.
Could be a gun shop named the armory.
That would not be unusual.
That's what I think it is, yeah.
You need to find out what your cohorts are doing at the armory.
Because there's people that have been at the armory twice.
They'd been turned into the police.
And I thought, my gosh.
So I followed the people and I stopped them.
I followed them until they stopped and I got out and I asked them who they were.
They were dishonest with me.
They would not tell me what they were doing.
I asked them what they were doing in our armory.
What they were doing.
Well, we're just two guys walking, you know, going through town, looking for a place to have a business.
And I said, sir, typically you don't have a business in an armory.
Then they said, well, we weren't even at the armory.
And I said, I followed you from the armory.
Then they said, well, yeah, we were at the armory, but really we were looking at the deer.
There's a big shooter four-point in there.
I'm not sure how often you shoot deer in an armory, but I asked them to please be truthful with me because I was trying to be truthful with them and that there's too much fear in our community.
Push comes to shove, let's just kind of get down to the end of it.
I pursued information.
I took a picture of their vehicle.
They ran the license plate.
It came back to undercover FBI agents.
There you go.
Undercover FBI agents, and they're snooping around the armory, which I don't think was a gun store.
It seemed like it was the armory.
And this is a couple weeks back that I got the clip, and this is several weeks back when apparently this happened.
Sounds like agent provocateurs to me.
Yeah, troublemakers.
Well, if you're going to talk about that, let's go right to the Milwaukee situation.
Good idea.
Six-week cycle is what it looked like to me.
Well, I don't believe the six-week cycle isn't playing anymore, but it definitely falls into that pattern.
I have the complaint, the criminal complaint.
It shall not surprise you.
Play the clip, then you play the complaint.
Okay.
Breaking headline out of Wisconsin.
The FBI sting and a suspect now under arrest.
Sting.
They say he was planning to kill dozens of Americans by locking doors at a temple and opening fire.
So let's get right to ABC senior justice correspondent Pierre Thomas working this story tonight for us.
Pierre.
David, authorities say the suspect wanted to unleash a cold-blooded massacre and spark other attacks across the country.
According to the FBI, Sami Mohammed Hamza, an American citizen, planned to go inside a Masonic temple in Wisconsin, lock the doors, and gun down 30 people.
Hamzy wanted to tour the temple just last week after visiting a firing range, allegedly thinking he would carry out the attack with two other radicals using three machine guns with silencers.
Investigators say Hamza is caught on surveillance tape saying, when we go into a room, we will be killing everyone.
The FBI launched this investigation in September of last year.
David?
Yeah.
Well, here's the official offense.
Knowingly attempting to provide material support and resources, namely personnel, to a foreign terrorist organization, namely the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, knowing that the organization was a designated terrorist organization and that organization had engaged in and was engaging in terrorist activity and terrorism.
And, of course, the FBI once again...
Just drag this guy along.
Even took him to the shooting range, John.
Let's go target shooting.
The undercover informant.
Yeah, let's go target shooting for your little putsch there going into the Masonic Temple.
This is entrapment.
I like the way ABC kind of slanted it.
I think a lot of people...
Temple implying Jewish temple.
Oh, very, very good.
The temple is a Masonic hall.
Yeah, you've got to wonder what kind of messaging is there besides how ABC spawned it.
I don't know where my clip is from.
Let's see if it's different.
It became very, very evident to the FBI that the individual named in this complaint was planning a massacre at Masonic Temple here in the city of Milwaukee, located in downtown Milwaukee, and that he had originally planned to travel to the Middle East but had changed his plans and decided to create the havoc here in the city of Milwaukee.
With the help of the FBI, with some confidential informants, they were able to gain the trust of this individual to the point where several confidential informants were accompanying him on a tour of the Masonic building, as well as putting him in contact with some FBI agents who were the ones that were selling the machine guns to him undercover.
Once he purchased those guns, and based on many of the conversations and many of the statements that he made, the FBI then apprehended him and put him under arrest.
Sold him machine guns, took him to the firing range, found a notebook which contained his name?
And the name Islamic State in Iraq in the Levant, Al-Qaeda in the Levant, the Syrian resistance, and the ISIL flag was drawn in his notebook.
I hope they never look at the show notes.
We'll be incarcerated.
We have a guy, boots on the ground in Milwaukee, kind of a confidential guy.
He works for...
Yes.
He says he can give us some information, but he thought it was peculiar that this took place because there's, I guess, a Democratic debate coming up in Milwaukee.
No, I think there's a Republican debate coming up in Milwaukee.
Yeah, and he just thinks there's something, the whole thing is quite fishy.
So I'm not sure what he's going to come up with.
Well, I gave him some, because he's kind of deep into it, so I gave him some ideas of how we could communicate safely.
But yeah, this was bullshit.
But it's a classic, though.
It's the same, same pattern as some poor schlub.
They got a good-looking, bad-guy-looking schlub this time.
A guy looks like a creep, which is what you want.
You know, the problem they've had in the past, and I think this is a correction they've made because Comey's got something on the ball.
They've made it from, you looked at these guys in the past, you go, oh my god, that guy's a moron.
Yeah.
Right?
Yep.
Right.
Right.
And then you go to this guy and go, ooh, this guy's a terrorist.
He looks the part.
They casted the guy much better.
So congratulations to the FBI on that one.
I think that's an improvement.
And then probably for me, the most depressing news, pun intended, we've been following the war on crazy for quite a long time.
The whole idea, and it was put into the, well you'll hear this in this clip actually, you hear how the Affordable Care Act, known as Obamacare, was a part of it.
We have consistent talk of we need to screen people for their mental hygiene.
You know, every clip you've got is my clip.
It's unbelievable.
We didn't match up at all as covering something the other guy didn't cover.
It's possible that what you're going to discuss is different, but I don't think so.
Well, let's see.
We're back now with important medical news tonight about diagnosing depression.
An influential panel today recommended...
You have the NBC version.
I do.
By the way, I want to mention something here.
Since we're doing 3x3, you have the NBC version.
That's Lester.
I want you to put a stopwatch...
On this clip that you're going to play?
1.52.
Oh my god.
What?
Yeah.
It's long.
One minute.
Yeah, one minute and 52 seconds.
It's long.
Okay, play.
We're back now with important medical news tonight about Di- And the reason why is I wanted Lester's opening on it because he says something that doesn't necessarily come back in the clip.
We're back now with important medical news tonight about diagnosing depression.
An influential panel today recommended screening every adult for depression.
And for the first time, advise a screening not only for new mothers, but also for women even before they give birth.
Okay, this is important.
Because the recommendation is all adults, but how do they string that up?
Which is, this is an outrageous attack on women.
It is abuse of women what is happening right here.
They want to screen all expectant and new mothers for postpartum depression, which is a serious thing.
It happens.
It happens to many, many women.
Not all of them want to go eat their baby.
They have a bogus reason for this.
Well, of course.
They want everybody to be screened.
That's our theory.
So they can't buy guns.
Yes.
That is my whole point.
And listen to the clip, how it was set up.
Wait.
Let me go back to the bogus reason, the way they've set this up.
I don't know.
Well, maybe it's in the clip.
Maybe it's in the clip.
Okay.
It is in the clip.
It's in all the clip.
This should be a joyous time for women.
But today, a government panel of independent experts acknowledges it may not be.
And recommends all women before and after birth be screened for depression, something that affects one in seven moms.
Women want to have these conversations because they are recognizing themselves that something is amiss.
It's so prevalent.
In 2005, Brooke Shields shattered the silence on the Today Show.
And now on the red carpet...
Wow, I've never heard a camera click as a little interim bit.
It's a good bit.
It's very nice.
It should have been millions of these, not three.
Well, who's Brooke Shields?
Who's that again?
Click, click, click.
And now on the red carpet.
This month, actress Hayden Panettiere.
I'd feel, if I was Brooke Shields, I'd be pissed off.
Yeah, you want the barrage of clicks.
Why do I only get, like, a couple of clicks?
Click, click, click.
Okay, move along.
Oh, that's completely wrong.
How about, here, this is what I would do.
I'd take my cameras.
There we go.
That's my camera.
Hello, Adam Curry here.
Yes.
Yes, do you want to know something about my depression?
Okay.
And now on the red carpet...
This month, actress Hayden Panettiere telling E! News she's proud to be a spokesperson after getting help following the birth of her daughter.
It doesn't mean they're weak.
It doesn't mean they're a bad mom.
It doesn't mean they're strange and they can get help if they need it.
How do you know what's just the common baby blues and what's depression?
One difference, doctors say, is the time frame.
Baby blues usually happen within the first two weeks of birth.
If the severe anxiety lingers to the six-week mark, it could be more significant.
Risk factors include history of depression, prenatal anxiety, and child care stress.
Now, I have a lot of questions about this.
So what they're now advocating is for doctors to ask questions.
They have certain questions that can determine if you have depression.
Doctors say family members need to be aware of the issue as well.
If you ask your loved one, do you feel like you want to harm yourself or your baby?
That is a question that is okay to ask.
This is new.
This is new, what they're doing.
And I found a...
So the government panel has recommended...
Let's see, what's the exact wordage?
This series of questions, of surveys, which I actually took, and maybe it might be kind of fun for you to take.
I'll share my recommendation, and I answered truthfully.
Let me just find it in my email, I'll tell you.
When I did these questions, I came out with a very interesting result.
It's the MHA screening, mentalhealthamerica.net.
And this is the survey recommended by this panel.
And when you look at the survey, it's actually run by Pfizer.
Pfizer wrote the survey.
Well, they got the pills.
Yeah, but this is obviously a problem.
Yeah, well, they wrote the survey because they got the pills.
They want to make it so that no matter how you fill out the survey, you got depression, you need pills.
Here's my results.
Oh, you took it?
I did.
Okay.
Your results indicate you may be experiencing some symptoms of mild depression.
Uh-oh.
Take this gun away!
While your symptoms are not likely having a major impact on your life, it is important to monitor them.
Would you do that for me, John?
Can you monitor me?
I've been doing that.
These results do not mean that you have depression, but it may be time to start a conversation with your doctor.
Find the right treatment plan and working with your doctor, healthcare provider, or support person.
No guns for you.
The depression symptoms you are experiencing may also indicate a different type of mental health problem related to bipolar disorder.
Oh man, I'm fucked!
We recommend you also take the screen for bipolar disorder to find out if your symptoms may be more similar to those experienced by people with bipolar disorder.
We have pills.
Yes, your point is we have pills.
Yes, we have pills.
But once you take the screening, once you've done that, that's it.
Oh yeah, you're toast.
You can't get a gun anymore.
Yeah, well, that's just the start.
That is just the start.
Now, here's my question for you.
And if you want to take the test, it might be kind of fun to do.
I'll check it out.
But two millennials that I know, two of them, have both received diagnoses.
One, I can tell you, Christina received a diagnosis for Asperger's.
I'm pretty sure my daughter doesn't have Asperger's, but okay.
She doesn't have any of those telltale signs, but okay.
But here's what happened.
And another millennial in my circle.
I know this much.
That diagnosis, no guns.
Well, that will be the bottom line for sure.
Yeah.
But more interesting, in both cases, they did a CAT scan.
And the doctor said the CAT scan proved they were on the autism spectrum and had, in Christina's case, had light Asperger's.
I don't believe...
I looked, and I looked, and I guess I'm going to have to ask.
I'm going to have to get down on my knees and ask the brain professor.
I don't think there is a cut-and-dry CAT scan that can definitively say, oh, we're just looking at the chemical composition of your brain, you have autism.
I don't think so either.
Yet both of them have been convinced by their doctor that the science proved they have this disorder.
And I know we have lots of doctors out there who know about this stuff.
I need to know.
Because the next thing they did, just like this, you have mild depression, maybe bipolar, you should take that screening question.
And by the way, we got some pills for you.
You need treatment.
This is beyond outrageous.
It's been happening for a while.
Getting back to the deconstruction.
I've come to a conclusion, which I've noticed this because I've been doing too much ABC coverage.
ABC also had a package, I'm sure the other networks did too, that went out to the locals.
This was a major, major push, this depression story.
Everybody was covering it.
Play just a part until you get sick of it.
The long form, and give me the time on this.
What is the time that shows up on the long form depression story local ABC? 1.34.
Okay, yours was what?
1.50?
1.50, yeah.
Alright, start playing the 1.34 and see the way they lead into it.
Tonight, there's a first-of-its-kind call for doctors to routinely screen moms-to-be and those who have already given birth for depression.
Roughly 20% of all Americans suffer from the disorder.
But as ABC 7 News reporter Lisa Amin-Galishian tells us, many women never get treatment.
A government task force suggests all primary care and OBGYNs start looking for the signs of depression in pregnant and postpartum women immediately.
Making this recommendation, we are putting it up in the front and saying, listen, this is a diagnosis.
This is a disease.
We need to embrace it like anything else.
The diagnosis is based on questions about how you feel.
It's outrageous.
Dr.
This, by the way, you don't have to play any more of that clip, but I think if anything needs to be diagnosed, this is the polyps in this poor reporter's voice.
I think I'd like to, it's very short.
I'd like you to take a test with me, John.
We have a number of you can...
Let me finish my point.
Sorry.
Now, give me the time on Depression CBS. 152.
What?
I don't understand your question.
I got a clip that says Depression CBS. Oh, I'm sorry.
Depression CBS is 23 seconds.
That is the standard for the way CBS does all its stories.
This is like the rant I'm trying to finish here.
It's unbelievable that CBS is compressed so you get more news.
I said this when I started the 3x3.
I noticed it right away.
The best network, even though they're the Trump haters, for news, if you're going to watch one station for news, it's CBS. This story under this depression doesn't need to be beaten up for two minutes.
Unless...
It's brought to you by Pfizer, which the tests are brought to you by Pfizer.
The recommendation is pills by Pfizer.
All of the networks get money from Pfizer.
I don't think CBS gets more or less.
I just think that they just do better coverage.
Better job.
If you want to play it, this is the way it should have been played by everybody.
Today, a medical advisory panel recommended that all pregnant women and new mothers be screened for depression.
This is based on new evidence that suggests postpartum depression often begins during pregnancy.
Government researchers also suggested that all adults, men and women, be screened because nearly 7% of Americans suffer depression.
Ah, that's just about the number of people that kill themselves with a gun.
Anyway, short and sweet, got the point across, we're done.
Please answer each question to the best of your ability.
Has there ever been a period of time when you were not yourself, your usual self, and you felt so good or hyper that other people thought you were not your normal self or were so hyper that you got into trouble?
Yes or no?
Well, if you say yes to that, you're bipolar.
Well, we'll say no then.
Is it yes or no?
No is the answer.
So this is all under the same heading.
Has there ever been a period of time when you were not your usual self and you were so irritable that you shouted at people or started fights or arguments?
Yes.
On this show, twice a week, yes.
Has there been a case where you felt much more self-confident than usual?
Sure.
I think everyone at some point, if you're playing basketball and you shoot a deep shot, you'd feel real good about it.
Has there been a period where you got much less sleep than usual and found that you really didn't miss it?
I would say...
Yeah, of course.
At some point in my 60-plus years, yeah, sure.
Yeah, of course.
You've got that time when you slept three hours.
I go to Europe.
I get on the right sleep cycle.
I only get three hours sleep, but it's daylight out, and I'm floating around.
I move around, and the family complains about this.
Oh, you don't get jet lag.
I don't get jet lag.
The answer is yes.
Has there ever been a period where you were much more talkative?
I can tell this is not going well for me.
I'm going to need some drugs.
Well, remember, I only got a mild diagnosis.
Has there ever been a period where you were much more talkative or spoke much faster than usual?
Yes, come on, don't lie, yes.
Of course, everybody has that moment.
Have there ever been a moment when thoughts raced through your head and you couldn't slow your mind down?
Uh...
Skydiving.
Yes, that would happen.
Uh-huh.
Has it ever been a period when you were so easily distracted by things around you that you had trouble concentrating or staying on track?
Yes.
Come on.
You can't even write...
Of course.
I mean, if you're in a dorm or someplace and you got a guy next door playing drums...
John, you can't even write the clips.
You can't even spell right.
Come on.
I'm sorry.
I'm doing this for you.
I love you.
I want to make sure you get the help you need.
Has it been a period when you had much more energy than usual?
When I was younger.
Yes.
Has it been a period when you were much more active or did more things than usual?
Yes.
No.
I'm going to say no.
I know you.
No.
Has there ever been a period when you were much more social or outgoing than usual?
For example, you telephoned friends in the middle of the night.
God, no.
No.
Has there ever been a period when you were much more interested in sex than usual?
When I was younger.
Yeah, but I think it's more recent.
I don't think that...
No, it says period.
It doesn't say recent.
It doesn't say within the last...
If the question was worried probably...
Has there ever been a period of time when you are not your usual self and you are much more interested in sex than usual?
You kind of have to take that you are not your usual self into account, I guess.
No, I can't say that's true.
No.
Has there ever been a period when you did things that were unusual for you or that other people might have thought were excessive, foolish, or risky?
Yes.
All the time.
I would think so.
I would hope so.
Has there ever been a period when spending money got you or your family into trouble?
No, that's never happened.
If you checked yes to more than one of the above, have several of these ever happened during the same period of time?
So the ones you clicked yes were...
So that's the gotcha question there.
Well, but let's just be honest and let's not try to second guess the survey.
We know the point of the survey.
It's to get your drugs.
So you said irritable and shouted, much more self-confident, less sleep, still energetic, much more talkative, easily distracted.
I don't have all those things at once.
Okay, that's good.
So we'll say no.
No problem.
No problem.
And finally, has a health professional ever told you that you have manic depressive illness or bipolar disorder?
No.
No.
Then we click on the next button.
Then I have to do your sex.
Male.
Race.
White.
Age was very disconcerting because I'm almost in the same category as you.
I'm 45 to 54.
You're 55 to 64.
Household income, which is sad, but you don't get the high choice.
Zip code.
Can you give me your zip code or one nearby?
94706.
Okay.
States, California.
This is tracking.
If you have the zip code, the state should be automatic.
How come it doesn't do that?
That's shit.
Are you currently or have you ever been diagnosed with a mental health condition?
No.
Which of the following populations describe you?
Okay.
Boy, I don't know if you'll fit into any of these.
Well, maybe.
Heart disease?
I'm sorry, no.
Veteran or active duty military?
No.
Caregiver of someone living with emotional physical illness?
No.
LGBT? No.
Student?
No.
I'm a student of life.
No.
New or expecting mother?
No.
Do you have any of the following general health conditions?
Well, you could have filled most of this out yourself.
I already did it.
Here we go.
We are calculating.
And here is your results.
John C. Dvorak.
You, my friend, are polar negative.
You have little or no symptoms or bipolar disorder.
Wow.
Well, there you go.
You answered my questions with me.
What did you answer differently?
This is very distressing.
I thought it was going to be you were totally ill.
And it's like you're healthy and I'm ill.
Well, why are you ill?
I don't know, but something's wrong.
You took the same test, but what did you answer differently?
Well, I didn't take the bipolar test.
I took the depression test.
Oh, they just decided you were bipolar.
No, I didn't get a bipolar diagnosis.
I got a mild depression diagnosis.
Oh, yeah.
Well, you're mildly depressed.
Let's face it.
You have a trailer.
I'm not depressed.
I am not depressed, Dvorak.
Stop it already.
This is no fair.
I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on no agenda.
In the morning.
Yo.
So much for my little drama that I'd set up.
Oh, I'm sorry.
In what notes?
The notes I sent you.
It says...
What notes?
John, John, hold on.
And notes.
Are you insane?
Well, what?
You sent me a note?
I don't read any of that.
It said very clearly, note.
I have no idea what you're talking about.
I'm sorry.
Well, we'll stop the donation segment.
What are we doing?
I have no idea what you're talking about.
We're going to do it on the next show or the show after, because now the joke is ruined.
I'm sorry.
I do not recall any note from you, nor is it a good idea to send me a note.
Clips A and note.
I got these clips at the very end of getting ready.
I just was like, clip, go.
Just get the clip.
Okay, well, whatever.
It's not important.
Although it would have been the highlight of the show.
Well, why don't we...
No, no, no, no.
You can't do it because the joke is no good.
Hey, Matt, listen.
Can I say something?
A, I'm sorry.
B, if you want to communicate a production note, you know that this is not the way to do it.
This is dumb.
All I know is that this never works.
Well, yes!
It never works because I didn't know you sent me a note.
Well, I don't know what more I can do than write note in the subject line.
Then you say before we start the show, hey, did you see the note?
Oh, yeah.
I can ask you a million times about the email.
You don't even open my emails.
I get an ass out of you and me.
Correct.
Let's thank a few people.
We do have a bunch of people that came in with 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
I feel so bad about this.
You should.
No, I should not.
Yeah, that's what you say.
No, no, no.
Sorry, you're right.
You're right.
You shouldn't feel bad.
You should feel fine.
I'm sorry I said you should feel bad.
It was just a joke.
Thank you.
Much better.
Don't want you to get depressed.
Thank you.
I feel much better.
Don't get me depressed.
the show will be very hard with Jim Briney.
Shut up.
Shut up.
Okay.
Onward!
Sean Fincham in Modesto, California.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
I'll read some of these early notes.
We don't have too much.
Been staring at this email for more than a few minutes attempting to articulate how much the show means to me.
All I can come up with is a sincere thank you.
Thanks for providing such an outstanding product week in and week out.
Your deconstruction, humor, and constant entertainment has made my trips from Modesto to Los Angeles and back to see my smoking hot, hot fiancé.
Yes, we noticed the picture.
Thank you.
Keep up the fantastic work.
Now, I think anyone driving from Modesto to Los Angeles, which is a good 400 miles, is, wow, that's dedication.
Yeah, for sure.
I'm glad the show helps.
Alan Covito III in Midlothian, Virginia, 101, 2, 3, 4, 5, the exact same amount.
And he has, I guess he's become a knight.
Is that what I'm seeing here?
It looks like it, yeah.
Yeah, he says I'm up to the $1,100.
It's a knight or a one-time donation.
No, no.
I don't know what we have to do to...
Well, let me see.
I have him.
I think I have him on...
I don't know what we have to do so people understand the mechanisms.
It's all on the Dvorak.org slash NA page.
And we talk about it all the time.
You should send them a note.
When you accumulate $1,000 under any circumstances, $5 a month of 10 years or whatever it is, you can become a knight if you give us the accounting.
There you go.
Donald Borowski in the Spokane Valley, Washington.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
And Donald Borowski.
Ah, this is the...
Unfortunately, we have to read these when they come in.
It's just the rules.
Because it's on...
The United Federation of Planets.
Star...
We have to read.
Hey guys, thanks for the outstanding shows of late.
A recent discussion of gun rights was a revelation to me.
Key point is that a gun ownership is a natural right, not granted by the government, not even granted by the Constitution, but protected by the Constitution.
Yes, keep up the good work, Sir Donald Borowski of the something.
Fire bottles?
Fire bottles.
And I implore everyone to go read the Bill of Rights.
Each one says, shall not be infringed.
The right for the people to have well-armed militia, to bear arms, shall not be infringed.
So if anyone says your Second Amendment right, you need to stop them and say, no, the Second Amendment stops the government from making any regulation.
It shall not be infringed.
WA-6-O-M-I-73s.
Seven threes.
All right.
Onward.
Colin Sloman in London, UK. $80.
And apparently he has another...
He has a knighthood coming up.
He wants to be Sir Horatio of Wandsworth.
As he shall be.
Yes.
Phil Marples, $80.
In Newquay, Cornwall, UK. Newquay.
I think it's Newquay.
Newquay, actually.
Newquay.
Newquay.
Yeah, Newquay.
Newquay.
Cornwall.
It's all the way on the West Coast.
Yes, Cornwall.
That's where the kids go and camp out after school's done and they have sex and parties and throw up on each other.
In Nookie?
Mm-hmm.
That's why it's called Nookie.
It's close enough.
Tegan Murray in Calgary, Alberta, Canada, 69-16.
Oystenberg in...
Well, he's in Rotterdam, so I should pronounce it in there.
Oystenberg.
Oystenberg.
You're not even trying.
I was trying.
Well, he has something to say about this cat.
Let me see what it is.
Hello, John and Adam.
Been a regular listener since episode 162.
You show me your show.
Your show is the only news I can bear to listen to.
Thank you for your sanity.
As of right now, I am looking for a new place to stay in Rotterdam.
Rotterdam.
He says, oh, it's Rotterdam.
Do you have your magnifying glass?
I need it.
The straightforwardness capital of Europe.
So please give me and my cat, Zypress, some house-finding karma.
We'll put that at the end.
This is what we're reading it for.
Ready?
Yep.
Also send a douchebag shout-out to my friend Lars.
Douchebag!
He got me into the show back in 2009, and time flies.
At least to my knowledge, he's never donated.
Okay.
And he says, dunk your bell in Dutch.
Douchebag!
He had double douchebag in the note.
William Mitchell, 66 bucks.
Black Knight of Sir Inside, Mr.
Sir Inside, Sir Inside Jobs in Seattle, Washington, 66, 66.
Maxim Rudolph in Ljubljana, Slovenia.
I like it.
He's got a birthday call.
We got that on there for you.
I love Ljubljana.
Great little town.
They have a nice little museum, too.
Blah, blah, blah.
Thomas Hitzahler in Vienna, 6642.
Hey, man, don't skip over the nice little museum.
I like hearing about the nice little museum.
The nice little museum has got some really famous Slovenian paintings that are remarkable, and it's a very nice place.
But I have to say this.
In the downtown area, there is a pastry shop.
If you're in Ljubljana, you've got to go to this pastry shop.
And everybody knows about it.
It's very famous.
It's outrageous!
I have had pastries all over the world.
Not a big pastry, but I like pastries.
I have never been to a pastry shop like this.
The pastries are outrageously delicious.
Are they really light and flaky?
Oh, it was everything.
Whatever kind you wanted.
The creamy ones, the gooey ones, the custardy ones.
I love the creamy custardy ones.
This place would drive you crazy.
I asked about this and the locals told me that Slovenia was actually part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and it was one of the places where the pastry We're kind of invented and perfected.
And because if you go next door, I hate to say this because I like Croatia too, but you go to Croatia and it's like, what is this?
This is terrible stuff.
It was not even the same.
They can't even make a pastry.
No offense, we don't have that many Croatian donors.
Thomas, but I like Croatia.
Thomas Hittaler in Vienna, 66-42, Austria.
Brian Warden in Downs, Illinois, 64-35.
Brad Longenecker in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, 63.
Scott Wallace in San Antonio, Texas.
San Antonio!
Carl Madden in Enfield, Middlesex, Sex UK, 5555, Eric O'Callaghan.
Verona, New Jersey, 55-55.
Hey, it's my old stomping grounds.
Verona, who was that again?
Really?
Verona?
Yeah, that's right next to Montclair.
Technically, we're in Verona.
Henley on Thames, 55-55.
Josh McDonald, double nickels on the dime.
Matt Seaver, Knoxville, Tennessee, double nickels on the dime, along with Sean Zinsmeister in San Francisco, double nickels on the dime.
Eric Hochul in Berlin, Deutschland, $52.00.
Miguel Barros in Lisbon.
And Barros is probably pronounced slightly different than the way I pronounced it.
$52.
Lisbon, Portugal.
Roger Esty in Palm Harbor, Florida.
$51.
William Anderson.
$50.69 in Garland, Texas.
Brian Kaufman in Phoenix, Arizona.
$50.50.
And the following donors are all $50 donors.
Um...
Starting with David Dural in Malton, New York.
Gerald Inabene.
Inabene.
Inabene Donald Napier in Oviedo, Florida.
Alejandro Vasquez in Denver, Colorado.
And Lauren Williams.
She did send in a lengthy note that was handwritten, not handwritten, but hand-typed.
She says, I have to read this.
She says, Dear Jekyll and Hyde, Okay, you got me.
That poor, sad, doe-eyed baby seal at the end of your drive newsletter got me.
Nice.
It was as if those big black pouty eyes and those little folded paws were saying directly to me, please, please, please send your cash.
I was instantly neuro-linguistically triggered.
It worked!
You just need cash.
I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.
Just send your cash.
He goes on.
I am a first-time donor having listened to your show for a little over a year now.
I must say that while listening to Noagenda before and during this period that Adam losing his wife and gaining back his old pot habit has claimed combed him down considerably.
However, the more I hear about the Curry name and family background, the more I am convinced that he is a government plant.
Oh, yes.
And John are his handler.
Yes.
Well, could I talk to my handler?
Because I want more money out of the gig.
Fuckers.
You've been listening to the show with the...
You've got to change your perspective on this.
We're the...
We're the good guys.
We're the good guys.
My background, yeah.
Sir Bogdan LeHendro in Roanoke, Virginia.
Benjamin Smith over here in Oakland, California, waving.
Gregory Lawrence, Cortland, Illinois.
Jason Orban in Garden Grove, California.
And that ends our group of $50 donors and everybody else in between.
I want to thank all those who contributed lesser amounts.
And we do have a show coming up shortly on Sunday.
Dvorak.org slash Andy.
So we get our numbers up a little bit.
Dvorak.org slash NA. That's right.
Oh, I needed to give a karma.
That's what I forgot.
It was house buying karma, I think.
Here you go.
Coming your way.
You've got karma.
You've got karma.
We've got Colin Sloman turns 55 on February 17th.
Maxim Rudolph says happy birthday to his sister.
She turns 40 on the 1st of February.
And James Kashin II turns 33 on January 29th.
Happy birthday from all your buddies here at The Best Podcast in the Universe!
All right.
Two nightings.
I want to mention that.
We normally put some jobs karma on the end.
Maybe we should do that because Miguel in particular asked for some, but he also asked for, he left Portugal because he says a bunch of communists, but he also asked that F the EU. Could you put that at the end of the show?
Yeah.
I'll do the long version, but I'll do the jobs karma as requested first.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs karma.
Okay.
I haven't heard the FDE. Yeah, putting that in the end of show.
We've got a couple nice ones for the end of show, actually.
We're in the middle of our ceremony, John Nighting ceremony.
Hold on.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Yeah, here's my blade.
Any yours?
Where are you?
Hello?
Hold on.
Wait, I got him.
It's...
Okay, got it.
Got it.
Alan Camino, the third!
Or the second?
What is it?
The second or the third?
Stop the show!
Stop the show!
I have in the birthdays...
Oh, I see what I did wrong.
What did you do?
Well, there was a James Cushin II, and then there's Alan Covito III, so it was my mistake.
Oh, there's a lot of guys with those little things on the end.
All right, let's re-rack the tapes.
Re-rack the tapes.
Take this re-rack.
John places, Adam places in three, two...
Ah yes, Alan Kavito III, please step up to the podium along with Colin Sloman.
You gentlemen have contributed to the best podcast in the universe, any amount of $1,000 or more, and you are welcome to the roundtable.
I'm here for, and hereby pronounce the KV, Sir Kavito III, and...
Sir Horatio of Wandsworth.
Gentlemen, for you I have hookers and blows, rent boys and blows, rent boys and chardonnay, fry breads and fembots, drams and DMT, root beer and pepperoni pizza.
We've got malted barley and hops, hookers and molly, dos equis and Dutch dominatrix, ass cream with bear fillings, girlfriend experience and good bourbon, porn stars and pot, geishas and sake, vodka and vanilla, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, and of course, the mutton and mead.
This is a long list.
Well, because we only had two new knights.
You get these two guys, two new knights, and you give them all that stuff?
Is there a problem?
It seems to me you overdid it.
You're too generous.
Well, I'll take back the porn stars and pot then.
How does that sound?
Adam's gonna read his email On the No Agenda show Now, this isn't, you know, I did not get your note about whatever we were going to do earlier today.
People will get that on Sunday.
But you did copy me on a note that was sent only to you, which really made me mad.
Why?
You get plenty of notes that are never sent to me.
Plenty.
Lots.
It made me mad about what he said about me behind my back.
Oh, what did he say?
Aaron Baer, I'll call him out.
Two short articles, less than ten minutes of your time.
I'd like to hear what direction you choose to steer the conversation.
It's more than evident that the contrarian and masturbatory AC will do nothing more than feign empathy at his performative best, or simply minimize the critique so as to avoid an honest sentiment for any number of reasons, not the least of which would be pandering to the predominantly white audience.
Let's not get too radical or unbiased here.
We still have white privilege to uphold here.
Go ahead, prove me wrong, JCD. It's worth a few dollars, and you know I'm good for the donations, my friend.
I don't even remember getting this note.
Yeah, you replied, CCing me, and this was about the Oscars, about Danny DeVito, what he said.
And your reply was, I'm hoping this bullshit publicity story is dropped by us ASAP. Oh, right.
It was the Oscars story.
Yeah, but he...
But you didn't defend me.
You didn't defend me.
You said horrible things about me.
I didn't notice.
Okay.
Okay.
What I probably did...
I hate to say that I do this.
I do this once in a while.
Somebody comes in with a suggestion and it's an old horse.
They bring in an old dead horse, the way I see it.
And they ask me if I want to buy this old horse.
And you say, let me think about, hello horse, let me have a look at you.
I look at the teeth, I look at the smell of breath, and I say, no, this is an old beaten horse.
This horse has been beaten.
And so then I say, I don't want to deal with this horse, and I just send them a note back.
For some unknown reason, I'd let you know about it, that this request was in there.
Oh, I know what it was.
Remember, I put myself back in my mind.
You can give me that little sound that you make when I go back in time?
Oh, yes.
I'm going to go back a day in time.
I've got to set the machine.
What time?
I'm going to go back two days.
Here we go.
So I'm back there, and I get this note, and this guy's bitching.
And then I'm thinking, this is a dead horse.
And so then I tell him that little note that I sent.
This is bullshit.
Hopefully we won't talk about this anymore because it's boring.
It's a dead horse.
And then I said to myself, Adam's not going to know this is the way you feel.
That you think this is a stupid topic that we should stop talking about.
So I will CC, I will move that note and let him have a copy of it.
Yeah.
And I like that, but I was sure that you hadn't read that second bit.
And so I replied, Aaron, get over yourself.
You probably didn't even see that note, although I copied you on it.
And then he says, and then he replies only to me.
Now he's afraid.
Man overboard.
How does that happen?
And I copy that piece about, you know, I'm contrarian, masturbatory, I don't do anything but pander to the white privilege.
And I say, this is why.
Fuck you.
You know what?
Now that I think about it, since I'm still back in time, I'm back in that moment.
Yes.
I may have read that, and I may have chuckled to myself and said...
Well, let's come back to now.
Here we go.
What?
Oh, I always get a little nauseating.
Anyways, that's the story.
And I'm sticking to it.
But here's his reply, and here's what you were...
It's cool to see that when the SWJs come out for you, the social justice warriors, you didn't even read what he said.
And it got him all bent out of shape.
Aren't we, the listeners, overdue for an epic takedown of social justice warriors?
I know I'm waiting with bated breath because my disdain for them is equal to yours, if not greater.
Though mine doesn't compel me to curse them in the middle of a broadcast, no less, and then write it off as a byproduct of your neurodiversity Tourette syndrome.
Value for value remains compelling.
I may continue to listen, but you, sir, leave much to be desired.
I'll just leave it there, as David Chip Gregory would say, unless you'd like to continue this contrarian two-step.
Wow.
And I said, you're full of shit.
I like this guy.
You're full of shit, bigoted, and chicken shit.
You didn't include me on your original email.
Fuck off.
Oh, now that I think you've dropped yourself to a lower level.
I was busy.
I don't get half the email that you get.
I do love doing it, I'll say.
The thing I don't like, but the thing that sets me off, it's not about what he thinks about how we speak or what we think or even my neural diversity.
It doesn't mind me.
But when you say, I may donate, I'm like, fuck off, fuck off!
Yeah, no, you shouldn't do that.
That's bad for him.
I may don't.
No, don't.
Please, go away.
Here's the thing that he was talking about, though.
Danny DeVito.
I think he was in Europe somewhere.
And it's unfortunate that the entire country is a racist country.
So this is one example of the fact that even though some people...
You know, given great performances in movies, they weren't even thought about.
So it's like, you know, we are living in a country that discriminates and has certain racial tendencies, racist tendencies.
So sometimes it's manifested in things like this and it's illuminated.
But just generally speaking, we're a bunch of racists.
We're a bunch of racists here in America.
What an idiot.
My God.
Well, now I feel crappy that our original intent was completely plowed over.
I know.
By a snowplow.
But in that regards, hey, Danny DeVito.
You know, everybody's racist one way or the other.
Everybody...
I'd like to know what un-racist country he can find.
I'd like to point out that the Oscars are voted on by an international cast of characters, not just by American white people.
Brits are in there.
They're the racists.
We all know that.
Oh, yeah.
Absolutely.
So, bah.
Bah humbug, I say.
Bah humbug.
Bah humbug to you.
Yeah, bah humbug.
Alright, what do we got?
Wait, stop.
Stop the show.
Oh, hold on a second.
Stop the show, please, everybody.
Don't worry, if we go wrong, we'll take the meal penalty.
Hold on, stop.
You were going to talk about your new gear.
Oh, yes.
Yes.
Well, that would actually require tech news.
You caught me off guard, as usual.
Tech news.
Okay, here we go.
All right, tech news.
Yeah.
So I decided to do something very expensive.
For me, and that was to not upgrade my current 2013 MacBook Air, which runs the entire show, but to purchase a new one, which was necessary for a number of reasons.
One, the OS X version 11 really needs a little more power, and these newer MacBooks definitely have some more power.
Yeah.
Wait, wait, stop.
Since we're on tech news.
Let me ask you a question.
Yeah, go for it.
Why does a new operating system need more power?
Shouldn't it be written with more efficient code over time as it develops?
And we need actually less power?
It's called planned obsolescence.
So what they do is they put in a whole lot more wiki-wiki stuff that flies and animations, which I tend to turn off immediately.
But yeah, it's doing a lot more.
It's how...
Try and load the current iOS onto an iPhone 4 even.
The thing will be like molasses.
So they do that.
But the core audio, which Apple has, it's based on a lot of open source work.
Of course, so is the entire OS 10 operating system, BSD Linux, or Unix, I should say.
They have done so much work.
And Core Audio has been, I think, in their product for like 25 years.
And they really care about people who deal with audio.
Video, forget about it.
You might as well go off and use Avid, which is also Mac-based.
But they don't care that much.
The Core Audio stuff is so good that...
Avid, go Mac.
I'm sorry?
Avid's Mac?
Yeah, Avid runs on Mac, I'm pretty sure.
I don't think it runs on Windows.
I'm pretty sure it runs on a Mac.
But it has external hardware for the processing.
You may be able to run it on Windows, I don't know.
But...
The love that is in here from the core audio team enabled me to cobble together so much digitally.
They have now virtual device drivers, which I've been using for as long as I've been doing the show.
I've been using something called Soundflower, which is an open source software.
Virtual device driver, which is, it works, but it's been very, you know, sometimes the transcoding of the bits gets all crappy, there's delays in how long the audio runs through the system.
All of that is now gone.
I actually have been able to remove an external device from the whole setup.
So I had one USB device I needed in order to give you your mix minus, what goes back into Skype.
All because they finally did this.
I think it's called HAL, H-A-L, like some hardware acceleration something or other.
And the open source program that I use to play the jingles fit beautifully with the universal audio device all through Core Audio.
And they've done a couple other things.
Spotlight is unbelievable.
The speed and how it organizes the results.
Now, that's not necessarily for looking for MP3s.
I use a different program for that.
But everyone used to use this thing called Quicksilver.
This is good to show you how silos work and how big companies work.
Quicksilver has been a launcher.
So I press the option, space bar, the launcher comes up, you type in the first couple of letters of any application or document you want to open.
Boom, it's there.
Or you can tab down the list and select something else.
They're now doing that in Spotlight.
So Quicksilver, no one needs that anymore.
Of course, they like doing that, ruining little businesses.
Although, I don't know if that's a business.
What it does is it has to be seen, how well this is executed.
And I think we've talked about it before.
The entire world of Google and internet and search will all start to show up in spotlight.
It's very impressive.
Very impressive.
Along with their core audio bits.
Everything else, like handoff, like you walk towards your laptop with your iPhone and then the message you were composing flips over to the screen.
Screw that.
I don't want any of that stuff.
Turn all of that off.
But the new OS, very, very impressed in general.
Kind of sorry I asked.
Well, the reason why is I've accomplished something with this setup.
This is now my 11th year in trying to get an entire radio studio with all the bits and bobs into a laptop with maybe one external box, and I've done it.
And I'm very proud.
And I will be making the video and distributing the setting so anybody can do this themselves.
Yeah, if they're nuts.
Well, there's a lot of people who want to have, you know, a good show and want to...
People talk a big game.
Well, it's not easy.
It's not easy.
But there is no one who has this set up.
No one has done this.
Some people don't realize, or maybe everybody doesn't realize, and maybe a lot of people don't care, which is my guess.
But I'm thinking that very few people realize that this show is done on the fly.
When we say goodbye at the end, we're done, and the show gets posted.
There's no work done after the show.
Well, the only thing that's done is we put a little...
Oh, there's a little bit at the beginning that you drop on.
There's a cute little ditty.
But that's just something to...
And when it comes to...
That's just to wind it down.
So here's...
And it's still tech news.
So if you're creating a podcast and you're recording everything in Audacity and then you're going back with multiple tracks and putting on EQ and compression, you're not doing it right.
You're doing it wrong, actually.
It's too much work, and it'll sound much better if you use the full...
I have constructed, cobbled together with bailing wire and scotch tape, a complete studio for music shows, for interview shows, talk shows.
That's a lie.
There's absolutely no bailing wire or scotch tape involved.
Have you ever tried to create links between applications, virtual audio streams inside the kernel?
Yeah, I'm sure you have.
I launch my phone!
It's a no-brainer!
Alright, everybody.
I use a Yahoo Tubes.
No, they cancelled that.
Pipes.
It was called Pipes.
What?
You know, this is the thing that kills me about Yahoo.
They have these interesting little pipes.
It was a cool...
It was a great little thing.
Yeah.
It was a little...
It was cool.
It was the greatest thing ever.
And people had developed all these pipes to do all kinds of crazy things.
And it was a great, great, great, great idea.
Great!
And then they just...
They just canceled this crap because they don't know what they're doing.
No kidding.
Poor Marissa.
I like her so much.
You met her?
Yeah, I met her.
You have?
She's a little snooty, but I like that.
Oh, you like the snooty types.
Here's a question I needed to ask you because it came up with my daughter who is now convinced and the more I look at the research, the more people I see doing it.
Adding a tablespoon of...
White, no, of cider, apple cider vinegar to your water and drinking it.
Yeah, I know a lot of people that do that.
Is this indeed something that can be beneficial to your health?
Because you would know, you're the vinegar guy.
Personally, what do I think?
I think it's bullcrap.
Exactly.
I will refer people to one of Karem's cookbooks.
And you can look him up.
A very famous guy.
He says it's dangerous.
Now, the other thing I've noticed is somebody...
JC's wife is a fanatic of this.
Sabina, which is Jay's friend, she does this.
Jay may do it.
I don't think she'd admit it to me.
No, I wouldn't even admit it to you.
The key to this is you use one of these live, live vinegars, which you can make yourself with some good wine if you're careful.
Don't let the...
Xylan is the next aceterbacter get in there, which forms cellulose.
So she buys this stuff, the Braggs, and there's two of them.
There's a couple of brands that are live.
Live!
And by the way, apple cider vinegar, when you look at all the aceterbactors out there, There's one for every kind of vinegar.
So wine vinegar has a specific one.
And apple cider vinegar has a specific one.
And malt vinegar, the kind you use on fish and chips, has a specific one.
And those are the ones that contribute to the flavors and everything else.
And that's the ones you're supposed to use.
I am not absolutely sure that these live apple cider vinegars are using the right culture.
Probably not.
In fact, one of the things which I have a bottle of...
It turned and it had a xylenex growing in there, which is that vinegar mother that's that big rubbery thing.
And it was inside the apple cider vinegar.
And I said, do not use that.
Right.
If you ever see that growing in it.
That's in the bottle, yeah.
Small batch, too.
It shouldn't be in the bottle.
It was.
So then you're going to have heartburn for a very long time.
That's why I have it!
You're kidding me.
No.
Well, how do I get rid of the heartburn?
You're going to have to wait about six to nine months.
Oh my...
Okay.
So I've been having shitty heartburn ever since I drank some of that because Christina said, oh, you should do this.
I do this all the time.
Wow.
Wow.
Yeah, it's slightly toxic.
In fact, they've reclassified that particular bacteria.
It's not even a pure acetylbacter anymore.
They've got some new name for it.
It's not to be used.
If you ever see that stuff growing anywhere, just discard it as fast as you can.
And people use it.
They exchange it.
This is why I'm writing the vinegar book that I'm not ever going to finish.
I'm going to have to put a...
You're going to finish it.
You're going to finish it.
Fund me now or something.
You're going to finish it.
I'm going to finish it.
I got a new signage for Chinese New Year.
Every Chinese New Year comes when I go to Oakland, I go to the Chinese guy, I go looking around, I get the right signage to put up in the house for Chinese New Year, and it always tells you to do something.
The current signage I have in Chinese, it says, whatever projects you're starting, you're going to finish and be successful.
So I will finish it.
This year will be the year of finishing stuff.
Well, then I'll let you know how the heartburn goes.
I'll tell you what.
Okay, here's what you have to do with that particular heartburn that comes from that stuff.
It's funny.
This is not funny.
It is funny to me.
It's not funny to me.
Since we've been working together, I talk about vinegar all the time, and I bitch about that culture.
It was a weak moment.
My kid's like, here, Dad, this is good for you.
Whatever.
Yeah, it's good for you, yeah.
Pepto-bismo.
Pepto.
Okay.
Take the little pills, take one every night, and during the day for about six to nine months.
I just got a couple of notes here from Void Zero.
You know, his girlfriend, mother of his child, she's a therapist, and she says this is total crap that they can determine autism by a CAT scan.
Total crap.
So that's one piece of feedback, but I believe her.
I believe her.
I believe her for sure.
It doesn't make sense.
No.
But the kids are falling for it.
Like, oh, okay.
Yeah, I need this.
It's money.
Wellbutrin or whatever.
Prozac.
That's what you don't need to take.
Vyvanse.
No, this is what they prescribe.
All those things are bad for you.
No kidding.
Yeah.
I think you saw this note, but in case you didn't, I wanted to read a little bit of this because I would like more feedback from our global producer pool.
Anonymous producer, I felt by duty to report on multiple topics of personal expertise in the past.
That's how it works.
This is why we are the best podcast in the universe.
We have the experts and we listen to the experts and don't pretend that we know more.
We are very modern.
This is where everything is going.
We and the audience are one.
Absolutely.
That's what people like NPR and PBS don't get.
I'm currently a slave of the health industry as well as a big foundation.
I heard you bring up NOAA a few times.
I feel the need to comment.
I worked as an oceanographer for a local university a while back.
NOAA, the National Oceanic Atmospheric Agency, administration, was our main competitor.
Administration, I think.
Was our main competitor and also a valuable resource.
There's a limited amount of money that is offered every year.
And these are the people who measure the global warming.
That's what I should have prefaced this with.
So NOAA, even though there's questionable or questions about the numbers, have they fudged them?
Doesn't matter.
Everyone is all in.
President, NOAA.
You can't argue with NOAA.
So he continues.
There's a limited amount of money that is offered every year for oceanographic research.
And NOAA is earmarked for a lot of it.
Whatever scraps are left up for grabs to the rest, mostly universities who have a similar agenda.
Read climate change.
Many times, NOAA ships are in an area that is of importance to a university lab.
And they would let us aboard to perform a parallel test.
The crew on these ships were frequently totally, I'm reading verbatim, totally fucking nuts.
Many were career NOAA seamen, pun intended, and would happily kill a new captain or superior to maintain the status quo.
The crews were often incestuous, literally, or were easily convinced into overtly perverted sexual acts.
Think U.S. Navy, minus any training or oversight.
They also had great vessels with world-class chefs and housekeeping crew.
Unfortunately, the upper management tends to be not so great.
And he said, you should really look into this And, man, there was a huge scandal a couple of years ago that you and I missed.
They bought this boat up in the Seattle area.
I think they paid three-quarter million dollars for it.
And they were having sex parties and having family and friends and using a credit card to fill it up for $40,000 worth of gas.
This Noah outfit...
He says, please look into and ridicule this organization.
This is where part of the untold trillions of the national budget ends up.
It's a damn shame.
The first thing to tell you when you get on a good research boat is rule number one.
Oh, that's about a video he sent where the NOAA crew were jumping off the side of the boat and then a shark grabbed onto one of them.
And, of course, they never should have been off the boat in the first place.
But if you go back and just look at NOAA Party Boat, just search on that.
This is a pretty corrupt organization.
Sounds like a fun organization.
Well, yeah.
I mean, you get to go to these cool places.
I'm sure they get to go to Paris.
Sex parties all the time.
We're in the wrong business.
No kidding.
No agenda sex parties.
That's no good.
We barely have a meetup.
Oh, yes, there are.
Please go to meetup.com slash noagenda.
Somebody just sent a nasty note in about it.
I went there and there was nothing.
Yeah, but I don't think he was looking in the right place.
And then you sent me a note, which I did receive, which I dove into very deep.
And I don't know if it's coincidental or maybe it has to do with this.
Two times in the past two weeks, once with Uber and then once when I was driving, the GPS put me in a whole different place.
It was very confusing.
One of the GPS satellites went down, another one started sending out the wrong time.
Apparently it was the same satellite.
And the time is important to these things.
So it was off by 38 microseconds.
And what's interesting about this is it actually deals with the theory of relativity because time moves faster up in space.
What are the sea satellites?
They're pretty low, right?
They're 20,000 feet.
No, not 20,000 feet.
They're three...
We've fallen out of the sky.
No, it's not 20,000 feet.
But they move, I think their time is close to 38 or 40 microseconds faster than our time here on Earth.
So they have to have an offset sending the signal down, and by being, I think it was 13 microseconds off, that would, and I did that calculation, that could put you in a different place on the map with a deviation of 3 kilometers, which is about what happened to me.
And so a couple things.
One, what the hell happened?
And I joined that stupid...
Are you really on the Time Nuts mailing list?
Time Nuts?
That's what it's called.
It's the Time Nuts mailing list.
Somebody forwarded that to me.
I'm not on the Time Nuts mailing list.
Well, I am.
Well, that makes sense.
I joined...
We should be.
It's very interesting, all these time corrections.
But for that to happen, we really need to evaluate that infrastructure.
Something's up.
I think so, too.
This is not just something that just happened.
This is like that crazy thing that happened with the air traffic control in Europe.
Which is coming back.
That story is coming back in relation to MH17. Yeah, it should.
It's coming back.
It's what we discussed.
And people are talking about Operation Northwoods 2 in Europe.
Good.
It's about time they caught up to our show.
Yeah.
And on Sunday, I'll have an overview of what happened in Sweden.
We got migrants killing people.
People going to jail because they beat a migrant up who was beating them up.
It's crazy.
Oh, there's a lot of crazy stuff going on.
The Swedes are going to send a bunch of guys back.
I want to mention that Germany's not landlocked, which is a mistake I made on the show.
No, no.
It was a mistake I made, and I didn't say landlocked.
No, I made it.
I said, well, maybe you made it, but I said they have no beaches.
That's true.
It's not landlocked, but there's no good beach up north there where they have some...
Anyway, Thomas Hidholler.
He's right.
I think I said they have no beaches.
I don't know what I was thinking.
I said they had no beaches and you said landlocked and I should have said no.
I don't think that's the way the conversation went.
You know, I really don't care.
Well, we said it was landlocked and it's not.
Now we should know better.
Yeah, which I should, for sure.
By the way, we do have a Mennonite.
Look at these notes.
These notes are great.
Brad Longenecker is a Mennonite.
Mennonite?
Yeah, he says he is.
What is it?
In Lancaster, Pennsylvania.
It's like an Amish, one of the Amish offshoots.
Oh, that's cool.
Or original Amish.
Again, I'm talking out of my ass.
It's all right.
Let's see.
I have, well, I think something.
Go ahead.
Well, do you want to do a, because I was irked.
Oh, let's play the Oprah scam.
Oh, I don't know about this.
You are taking over.
We have switched beats in some crazy way, haven't we?
You're getting CNN, you're doing Oprah.
What's next, The View?
You got a View report for me next?
I do.
Just a few words from Oprah can apparently boost a company's profits.
I lost 26 pounds, and I have eaten bread every single day.
After Oprah Winfrey tweeted that message today about her success on Weight Watchers, shares in the diet company jumped more than 20%, closing at $13.29 a share.
Oprah owns Weight Watchers shares, and that single tweet earned her $12.5 million.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
How is this legal?
Well, that doesn't sound legal at all.
it's not legal hold on let's replay threw her in jail along with Martha Stewart let's replay just a few words from Oprah can apparently boost a company's profits I lost 26 pounds and I have eaten bread every single day.
After Oprah Winfrey tweeted that message today about her success on Weight Watchers, shares in the diet company jumped more than 20%, closing at $13.29 a share.
Oprah owns Weight Watchers shares, and that single tweet earned her $12.5 million.
That is 100% illegal.
As far as I can tell.
And the fact that she's sitting there topping 200-something pounds, but she must be 250 pounds, John.
When I saw, because I saw this Weight Watchers commercial, they used to be my client.
Ended very badly with them, by the way.
Very badly.
Did not, because their whole operation is a scam.
It's not a scam, but it's shitty food with nothing in it.
It's cardboard, and they ship that to your, you know, they ship that off to you.
They have, for a long time, they've had Marie Osmond, who looks dynamite.
Dynamite?!
You know, Oprah...
She's dynamite looking generally.
She gained a little weight and she lost her weight.
Yeah, it doesn't bother me.
You know, Oprah's weight doesn't bother me either.
But don't sit there like you're healthy, woman.
Sorry, you're not.
Does Wikipedia hold a current weight for Oprah?
I don't know what Oprah's weight is, and I don't care.
What I do care about is native advertising.
Well, not just native advertising.
I don't think you can be a shareholder and then start doing this.
No, that's the point.
That's what I'm wondering.
I mean, where's the SEC on this?
It just seems egregious.
This has happened recently with some P. Diddy or something.
He pulled some stump.
No, I think it was 50 Cent.
Could have been 50 Cent.
I think it was 50 Cent.
It could have been 50 Cent.
So not only does Wikipedia not have Oprah's height, but it also does not include her weight.
I feel this is wrong.
Some jerk sent, put in, you know, fudge the Wikipedia.
I mean, I have haters.
And they went in and they said it was 5'7".
I mean, come on.
Very funny.
That's not even funny.
It's not funny.
It's insulting it.
So, native advertising on ABC. ABC News.
I'm going to stop ABC News.
I'm going to move to CBS. I'm not going to do all three.
Hold on one second, John.
Hold on one second.
Hold on.
Siri, how much does Oprah weigh?
Checking.
Okay, I found this on the web for how much does Oprah weigh?
No, but you're not going to say it?
Siri's gone downhill.
Alexa does more and more.
Yes, I know.
It's like serious giving up.
Anyway, let's go on to it.
She's 5'6 and weighs over 200 pounds.
That's not very accurate.
All right, so let's go to talk a little bit just before we finish.
A couple of native ads.
One I was blown away with because most native ads on ABC and the ABC News are in the C block, second to the last block, at the end in the segment.
They have this little segment and they slip these native ads.
And an example of that, they're all about 14, 15 seconds.
I think they do 15 second buys and they just play it up.
The new study about Trader Joe's and Whole Foods tonight.
Homes within a mile worth twice as much as the national median.
Within two years of a Trader Joe's opening, home prices surging 10% more than other neighborhoods.
Stay tuned on that one.
Yeah, go live near that.
Native ad, right?
Native ad.
Well, although it said Trader Joe's and Whole Foods, who are competitors.
I think they just wanted to balance the story a little bit, make it sound like, you know, it's a real story, but then they pump, pump, pump Trader Joe's.
Mm-hmm.
All right.
Now, I have never seen...
I think I've...
I'm taking it back.
I've probably seen a couple of these, but I've never seen one so egregious.
This is a native ad...
For Budweiser.
And they played it in the D-block.
But it wasn't only just the D-block.
It was the entire D-block.
You're kidding.
And it wasn't as though the Super Bowl's coming up where they're going to play this advertising they're talking about.
But that's on CBS. So this is not for the Super Bowl.
It's a Budweiser...
It's got to be very expensive to play the entire D-block out with a kind of a cutesy public interest, you know, feel-good ad.
Do you have the intro and the outro to it?
I have everything.
This is the whole ad.
Hit it.
All right, everybody, we're coming back from commercial.
This is the Bug Bizer Native ad.
You know what to do in three, two...
Finally tonight here, just in time for the Super Bowl, a star is born and the agents are already calling.
Here's ABC's David Wright.
Today from Budweiser, a tantalizing tease.
Could this young Clydesdale, born yesterday, be the star of their new Super Bowl ad?
Here comes the king, here comes the big number one.
The king of beers has long since softened the oompa of those classic Budweiser ads.
In 2013, a young foal named Hope stole the show as we watched her grow up, take her place in the team, and then spot her first love in the crowd.
Wow.
A heartwarming reunion so successful.
Budweiser went with a puppy next time around.
The plot line?
A stray dog on the fringes of the Clydesdale's Warm Springs Ranch makes new friends, who, in his moment of need, scare off the neighborhood bullies.
What's in store for the full?
A tweet from Anheuser-Busch simply says, Meet Mac!
What Mac has to do with beer or football?
That's another question.
David Wright, ABC News, New York.
Mac's cute.
Hard to beat the puppy last year.
Thanks for watching here on a Wednesday night.
I'm David Muir.
I hope to see you right back here tomorrow night.
Until then, good night.
Hey, I'm a clear, everybody.
Good job.
Good job.
See you tomorrow night.
How is this news?
If this was advertising age, it would make some sense.
I can tell you, I built Budweiser.com and BudLight.com in 1996.
This is, just to pile on that it's an ad, but their entire strategy is their history.
The Clydesdales, the history of their ads, it's all a part of their entire messaging.
It's really what they use consistently, tradition, you know, great old values, St.
Louis values, I guess, somehow.
Tasteless beer.
Rice beer.
Yeah.
Right.
So we went there and we met with the brewmeister and we got a bunch of assets, digital assets to digitize.
Not just assets, we had to digitize.
Right near the St.
Louis brewery, which is still kind of home base, where Woody and Grindr, Woody being...
The young Bush was a moron.
The one who has the dead hooker in his house.
And then Grindr was the old guy that said nicknames.
But after work, oh, let's go have a drink.
And there's this one bar right across from this industrial terrain.
There's one bar.
I go in, and I was with Bloom at the time, and I was sitting down with Bob McCauley, who was, I have to say, had a lot of vision for hiring us.
And I said, what do you want to drink?
Oh, I'd love a scotch with soda.
Yeah, as long as you have a Budweiser with that, that'll be okay.
That's how they think.
You could not just drink anything you wanted, unless you had a beer with it.
Well, pushing, pushing, pushing.
So, yeah, good one.
Yeah, well, it's native advertising.
What else do you expect?
I'd like to know what they paid for that, but that's a big native ad, and I just found it.
They got the budget.
There's news to be reported.
This is not news.
Well, are you foolish?
Well, here's news.
Here's news from down under, our friends.
I think this pops up every year, but I might as well highlight it.
Australia's leaders want to break up with the British royal family.
Good luck.
All but one of a group of senior politicians supporting a push to make one of their own the country's head of state.
But Sydney bureau chief Jane Mordell says it's not a done deal just yet.
The majority of Australians are in favour of moving to a republic and having an Australian Head of State.
The recent polling shows 50 odd percent are in favour of such a thing.
However, there still are staunch monarchists in Australia, our former Prime Minister Tony Abbott being one of them.
They point out that there's not enough of a groundswell to really push a debate right now.
A public petition has only gained around 4,000 signatures, not exactly a landslide in a country of 20 million.
Wow!
So this big, hey, we want to be a republic, screw the Brits!
4,000 people.
I think it's Australia Day.
They do that every year, Australia Day.
They start talking about it.
Good luck with that.
The Queen's your uber lord, and it's going to be that way.
Something happened in the Senate, which I liked, and I was hoping maybe we could...
What's the congresswoman from Hawaii who I like so much?
I don't know.
Tabby, Tably, Tubly, she's a veteran, super cute surfer, all against...
Tabla's horse right.
I have no idea.
Yeah, that's the one.
Although it's not.
She should take a cue from Joni Ernst.
I think she's the senator for Iowa.
She's a Republican.
It's Tulsi Gabbard.
Tulsi Gabbard is a Democrat.
So I would hope she would pick up on this and use this line around this political season.
Many of those fighting against us have claimed that our efforts to defend and protect life at all stages of development constitute a war on women.
I reject that.
I reject that!
Because I will remind them that I am a woman, and I have been to war, and let me be clear, there's no war on women.
That's right.
That's right.
I like that.
Take the war word.
She's a character I'm surprised they haven't slapped her down.
Is she cute?
Is she cute?
Yeah.
I think so.
She's a good-looking woman.
Joni Ernst?
Oh, Joni Ernst is very good-looking.
She's actually kind of borderline beautiful.
Oh, yes, I know who this is.
She's done the rebuttal, too.
Hasn't she done the rebuttal for the...
Maybe.
She did.
It wasn't very good.
She's a MILF. That's a MILF. No, no, no, no.
Sorry.
I take that back.
She's a cougar.
No, she can't be a cougar.
She's only 45.
Cougars can be 45.
No, no, no, no.
MILF is 45.
Cougar kicks in after 55.
And then after that, when you're near 65, you have a major.
Oh, well, let me write this down.
You know who told me that?
Some cougar?
Patricia?
No, she says she's a major.
She says she's a major.
Okay, my skepticism is now eliminated.
Now I will write it down seriously.
This is what she said.
She said, I'm a major.
I said, what, you enlisted?
This is text message, by the way.
It's not like I have ongoing conversations.
I said, yeah, I'm a major.
She said, no, 45 MILF, 55 Cougar, 65 Major.
I don't know what 75 is, and I didn't ask.
Yeah, you probably should.
But I'm sure she will tell me eventually.
When she gets there, she'll probably know.
She may have to coin it.
Now, I do have one last clip that I want to play.
It's kind of an interesting...
Because, again, like you said, we kind of crossed over our cross paths today.
It was like not...
We crossed...
Our streams crossed.
Yeah, streams crossed.
So I'm on CNN. Mm-hmm.
I caught this package.
This woman, she's like an old-timer that's doing the package.
Oh, I know who this is.
She used to be a serious journalist.
Now they only give her the show business things.
Well, this is a Trump package.
Yeah.
On Trump and kids.
It's about kids who love Trump.
And, yeah, I don't know if she was show business, but she's like, you can tell she's shopping.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Is this the three boys?
No, no.
Okay.
All right.
You're not even following, you're not even on your own beat anymore.
Yeah, but...
This is Erin Burnett's show, by the way, which you should be following religiously.
So as they bring this package in, and I have to say, watching this package is about kids.
It's got story.
It is a fantastic package.
This woman should not be working for CNN, the package woman.
She should be on one of the networks, but she's old.
Is that the actual job description?
Package woman?
The package woman.
She should be working for one of the big networks.
This is a fantastic...
I'm telling you, it's a corny package.
It's about a bunch of little girls, mostly, giggling about how great Donald Trump is.
And it's meant to humiliate him.
But it's fantastic.
The package was...
I'm watching this.
Jaw dropped.
It's a fantastic package.
A nine-year-old loses her mind at the thought of seeing some very, very, very famous person.
Who is it?
Here's Jeannie Most.
It was a reaction.
Jeannie Most.
That's the one I'm talking about.
She used to be behind the desk, and now all she's allowed to do is little cute tongue-in-cheek packages, but apparently she fits in perfectly.
Jeannie Most.
It was a reaction best described as Trump-tastic.
Guess what we're going to do Monday?
What?
We are going to see Donald Trump in person in New Hampshire.
Are you serious?
Yeah.
Oh, I want!
The prospect of seeing the Donald left nine-year-old Ava lovely in tears.
Thank you, boy!
Donald Trump has given kids rides in his chopper.
They sing him ditties.
President Donald Trump knows how to make America great.
When a kid asked a good question...
You're going to build the wall?
What's it going to be made out of?
Chocolate.
Chocolate.
Trump brought them on stage, though they're far from the stage when they can vote.
Tinley, why are you upset?
That I am a would-on-a-dump.
What are they doing to her brain, Road One commenter?
But Ava dragged her parents to the rally, not the other way around.
Mom and Dad hadn't even settled on a candidate.
Outspoken Ava says she likes Outspoken Trump.
I was just like freaking out.
I was so Not to mention...
I love his hair.
She got him to sign her Trump is number one poster.
He even wrote a number one on her hand.
Just think, four years ago, we're making a fuss over a four-year-old for having a meltdown because she was sick of politics.
I'm trying to...
That's why you're crying?
Oh, it'll be over soon, Abby.
And then there was the kid who had a tantrum when Hillary announced she was running because he thought it meant he couldn't.
Upon watching nine-year-old Ava's video, one person commented she may be one of Trump's more mature supporters.
And even the Donald's opponents might agree with this.
When we got in the car, she said it was like going to Disney.
Jeannie Moe.
I love you too!
CNN. I love you too.
New York.
Thank you.
Put that in the category of things you cannot make up.
No, I put that in the category of things that are clip of the day.
Clip of the day.
You know what?
I'm telling you, you saw that thing, you just go, holy crap.
You know why I gave you clip of the day?
And?
Because I had this clip two weeks ago, we just didn't get to it.
I knew it would be good.
You had it two weeks ago.
You just ran it.
Repeat.
It's okay.
It was very funny.
It was fantastic.
Yeah, the little girl.
She's so cute.
Yeah, Jeannie Mo started in 1990 with CNN. She's just too good for CNN. You're kidding me.
All she does is this.
I'm not saying this.
That's not a lightweight piece.
It's not important.
It's not important to society.
But it was so well structured.
It was.
She had the history of this sort of thing with kids.
It was a beautiful work.
Yeah.
I mean, it wasn't as though, yeah, okay, big deal.
Who gives a shit?
It looks like a Donald Trump promotion.
And then, of course, they had all these one-liners in there.
All these kids are crazy.
And what are they feeding them?
And all this sort of thing.
It was the package itself was so high-level professional.
I'll have to look into how much she does on the production.
I don't know.
She may have a producer, or she may be just a spokesperson.
She may be the yakker.
There may be a writer.
She may have a team.
I don't know.
But all I know is that this was a fantastic product.
I agree.
I agree.
But I don't think it was really that negative towards Trump, actually.
I thought that...
Well, they tried to balance it by having these one-liners that were thrown over the screen.
They'd have, like, a torn piece of paper with some writing on it that looked like it was, you know, from a Twitter account or something.
It would say, you know, stuff like, it's one of the more mature Trump supporters was a line I thought was hilarious.
Actually, every one of the negative comments was funny.
Laugh out loud.
I love his hair.
Yeah, perfect.
Sell that stuff.
up.
Yeah, that was good.
Things the media will not say.
No agenda will today.
All your life.
You've been waiting for Korea and Dvorak to arrive.
Senator Orrin Hatch.
As I was watching the C-SPANs, I took to the stage and discussed something that the media will not say.
You've heard it here on this show before.
Not unimportant.
Of the 11 co-ops still in operation.
This is about the co-ops that were part of...
The Affordable Care Act.
Oh, shit, they're all, yeah.
And the way this was supposed to work is these were organizations who were selling plans in the exchange, but only based on the exchange, and they had full government backing for their finances, and, yeah, more than and they had full government backing for their finances, and, yeah, more than half of them had failed, and the actual numbers are Of the 11 co-ops still in operation, There is reason to call their long-term financial viability into question.
All but two of them are losing money.
Not a single one of them had an underwriting gain through the third quarter of 2015.
And as co-ops generally continue moving into weaker financial conditions, several show signs of running out of money this year.
CMS has actually encouraged the co-ops to cook their books with some creative accounting.
Last year, the agency issued guidance allowing co-ops to apply surplus notes to program startup loans, which essentially allowed the co-ops to record loans as assets in their financial filings.
Taxpayers have been forced to foot the bill for the co-op experiment to the tune of $2.4 billion in federal loans for 23 co-ops around the country.
And to date, more than half of the co-ops have failed, while the vast majority of the others are in poor financial shape.
As a result, hundreds of thousands of Americans have lost or will lose their health insurance, and taxpayers are still on the hook.
A couple trillion dollars.
Billion dollars, sorry.
Billion dollars.
Yeah, no, this thing's the worst scam ever.
Yeah.
Insurance companies don't like these little co-ops.
They're taking business away.
They've also got a president that works for them.
Hillary's the next one.
As it turns out, we needed 21 million people to be insured in order for the system to work, for enough people to be paying so that other people could have coverage.
And only 13 million have signed up.
This is another epic failure.
Yeah.
And what that means is premiums will go up again.
Again and again.
Again and again.
Going up.
Yeah.
They just went up in January.
So when you see the debates and see people talking about this great healthcare, I'm sorry.
It's not.
It's shitty insurance.
Even the healthcare is nobody.
That's why Bernie's got the right idea, and so does Trump.
You have to go to single-payer.
And it's not that the Republicans are moaning, oh, single-payer, that's the worst, that's government, oh, it's the government.
Of course, we don't mind the government running our military, but we can't have the government the medical and there will be a lot of scams and all the rest of it because of that.
But of course, Medicaid or Medicare, everybody likes that, which is what Bernie wants, just make everybody get Medicare.
Right.
And yeah, you have to raise taxes, but you won't raise taxes as much as people are paying in this bullshit healthcare scams.
And the scam is so obvious what it is, because these guys go before Congress and they testify.
You can go before Congress and testify.
We insurance companies are doing the public affair.
We only take 2%.
We only make 2% profit.
Yeah, yeah.
And they maybe only make 2% profit, but by jacking up everything because the drug companies are in cahoots with them.
Well, not just that, John, but there are only, I think, two big holding companies who own all the hospitals.
Of course.
But the 2% is a fine thing to say, except the 2% when they began was maybe 2% of a billion.
Now it's 2% of 10 billion, which is a bigger number.
I mean, the whole thing is like a reverse Ponzi scheme.
The public is getting screwed, and we've gone beyond the point of no return.
We have to go to single-payer now.
We can't go back.
We can't...
Go back to the old ways because everything's all screwed up by these insurance companies.
They have to be shut down.
Yeah.
Because with single payer, the government says, no, we're not paying $500 for a prescription for a $2 pill.
We're just not going to pay it.
You hope.
That's what you hope.
You hope that's what the government says.
Well, the government is more likely to do it than the insurance companies.
And you've got to say government.
Government.
Whatever the case, it's too late now.
We have to go to single parent, and that's the end.
And Trump will do it, and so will Sanders.
Hillary won't, because she's in the pocket of insurance companies, even though she denies it, as you had on that other clip.
Yeah.
If they're fighting me, those insurance company people, they hate me.
All right.
Unless you've got another clip you want to play, I think we should...
Well, I was just going to see how long you're going to go, since we're way over and we didn't inform the affiliates.
We're not way over.
We're not?
We're at 2.49, but I do have an end-of-show thing, so I do have some stuff to do.
Well, let me see what I got left.
Oh, I do have one thing.
There you go.
I knew it.
Give us one more, John.
Come on, give us one more, John, please.
I was going to save this clip.
One more.
People out there, you should look this up and put it in the show notes.
I think I sent you a copy.
There's a hit piece that ran in Vanity Fair that was a beautiful one.
As hit pieces go, this was a fantastic hit piece on Donald Trump.
Mm-hmm.
And it was a guy who apparently had interviewed Trump, I don't know, 15 years ago or longer for Playboy, for the Playboy interview.
And he found Trump to be a boorish a-hole.
And so he writes this hit piece, which is mostly his anecdotes about what a jerk Trump is.
And it's very well written, it's very professional, but it's a hit piece.
And there's this thing that Trump keeps bringing up, and it brought to mind this particular situation where Trump keeps saying, and the defenders of Trump say this, well, Donald's going to get the best people.
He's going to get the best people.
Carl Icahn.
Icahn.
He's always dropping names.
He's going to get these people and that people.
Tim Collins.
And so I... I was thinking of when I worked for Halsey Minor for a while.
Ah, Mr.
Cnet.
I was there at the same time.
Yes, that's where we met.
And Halsey had this same basic theory.
And every time I talked to him about something, I'd say, who's going to get to do the networking?
He says, well, I did some research.
I found the absolute best networking guy.
In fact, he's the guy who wrote the protocols.
Oh, yeah, one of those.
Yeah, yeah.
That's Silicon Valley speak.
Yeah, we have the number one guy.
But he had the number one guy.
Okay.
And so I'm thinking, Trump is of this sort, of ilk.
And I was thinking, well, is there any proof that Trump is big?
He's made a lot of money?
Then I ran into this offbeat clip.
And nobody chimed in about how interesting this was.
But this clip is about the Iowa...
The Iowa campaign.
About the caucuses, you mean?
Yeah, the caucuses.
This clip is, that's not this clip, the Trump-Iowa ground game basis.
When I heard this clip, I said, wow, this guy might actually be one of those guys who does hire the best.
Iowa, Huckabee is still running a very strong campaign.
You're naming everybody.
Come on, we want to know who you're there.
Are you seeing a surge at the last minute?
You know, I think those that have the strongest on-the-ground games are getting people from their homes to the caucuses.
Absolutely, and that's not just everybody at the top.
There are people that are at the bottom of these polls.
And that's the question about Donald Trump, because he's had so many Iowans show up at these events, but the question was, does he have the ground game, the organization, to get them to the caucuses?
What say you?
I think he does, and here's a couple of reasons.
First of all, that is a Europeanism, I want to point out.
Riley does it.
He's the one at Fox who does it.
What say you?
That's Germanic.
I find it offensive.
Yeah, it's Nazi talk.
The caucuses, what say you?
I think he does, and here's a couple of reasons.
First of all, I'm seeing signs of that, obviously.
They're not perhaps as obvious as the signs I'm seeing with Carson or with Ted Cruz, but...
Donald Trump's campaign manager is Chuck Laudner.
Chuck Laudner's claim to fame is basically Rick Santorum's victory in the Iowa Congress.
He knows what he's doing.
Absolutely.
I mean, when you think of Chuck Laudner, you literally think of a ground game.
So he's prepared.
There's no way he can't be.
Ah, very good.
He's the guy who had Santorum win.
In Iowa, which was a huge surprise at the time.
Yes.
And now he's working for Trump.
And now take into account that Trump has got his goombas on the ground.
Hey, you don't like this sign, do you?
This is the wrong sign you got in your use yard.
Use yard is not good looking with this sign.
We're putting this sign in for you, right?
Right?
Any predictions?
Let's talk predictions, John.
I was just going to ask, the only thing I'm going to ask is ratings for the Fox News GOP debate tonight, sans Trump.
I think the ratings are going to be close to what they were with Trump, and they're going to drop fast.
Yeah, you mean a drop off after the first half hour, then it'll drop off into nothing.
Yeah.
Yeah, I agree.
But already they were down to, what, 15, 16 million on the last one?
I think they were down to 15.
Yeah, 15.
So I'll start off around 14 and then go down to sub 10.
Yeah, I think that's good.
No, I'll say 14 down to 6.
It's going to completely, because everyone will watch for the first few minutes, then they're going to switch channels and watch the Trump event on the other channels.
Well, in Iowa, for sure.
If they even show them here, I don't know.
Oh, are you kidding me?
Everyone's going to be live.
CNN, MSNBC, they're all going to be live at the Trump event.
Come on, this is Television 101.
You're right.
That's what you do.
Screw Fox.
We have a meeting.
John, let's see.
Fox has the debate tonight.
Trump is not participating.
He's doing his own event.
Should we cover it?
Okay, exactly.
Yes, they'll all cover it.
But those of you within the sound of my voice who are listening to this live on the program, you don't have to watch.
We'll do that for you.
That's the beauty of our deal.
We do that.
We do the heavy lifting.
Heavy lifting, for sure.
Alright, get back to your own beats.
Beats?
Yeah.
CNN... Oh, well you...
Get out of my beat!
I had to cover somebody's butt for him coming over to the triple three.
Whatever we call it.
Three by three.
Branding, my friend.
It's all about the brand.
All right, everybody.
Enjoy the rest of your week.
We will return.
The debate tonight.
We'll talk about this on Sunday, what the fallout is.
And then, of course, Monday is the actual voting in Iowa, which will be, I guess, interesting.
Coming to you from the skyscraper here in downtown Austin, the Crackpot Condo.
In the morning, everybody, my name is Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I was doing something earlier, and I'm doing something now.
I'm not absolutely sure what I'm talking about.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
We'll be back on Sunday right here on No Agenda.
While I'm driving off laughing, this is what I'll say.
Talk to you.
Oh, exactly.
Talk to you.
The only educational moments where there's an ant that you do not torch, and that's an ant that's carrying one of the dead ants back.
Oh, no, you have to be, that's the guy you want to let go for it.
Yeah, that's the guy, the guy, the guy, from the side of a hill.
You think that hill was just one big ant's hill?
No, it's mostly bedrock, bedrock, bedrock, bedrock, bedrock, your house, get some side of a hill.
You think that's a big rock?
Okay.
But there's enough soil.
These ants, they don't need a lot.
There's enough soil, enough soil, enough soil.
That's called siege mode.
Yeah, ha, ha.
What other modes do your ants have?
Well, they have snake attack.
That's called siege mode.
Yeah, ha, ha.
What other modes do your ants have?
Well, they have tree that hurt people, especially let's go set to deal with these architian ants.
And this trip does indeed work.
So one of the things that the ants will do in the kitchen is that they'll send a scout.
One, two, three, or four scouts out.
And this trick does this trick.
And this trick does this trick.
And they go back and report back.
Go back and report back.
Go back and report back.
Next thing.
There's a line.
I give you Bernie Sanders.
But here's what we have to concentrate on, and this president just will not do it.
We have to kill them all.
We have to kill everyone in ISIS as many and as quickly as possible.
Suckin' in soot.
Boom, chop.
I agree 100%.
I think that's great analysis.
This is a woman.
This is going to be so...
E-R-E-R-E-R Right wing and bitter clinging Round clingers of our E-R-E-R E-R-E-R-E-R Right wing and bitter clinging Guns are got, our heads are spinning E-R-E-R-E-R Right wing and bitter clinging No more pussyfooting Just chill, just chill And drill, baby.
Drill, drill down.
Left and right.
Drill down from behind.
Then I give a hallelujah from Alaska.
You betcha.
Then I give a hallelujah from Alaska.
Yeah, you betcha.
He's hot.
He's hot.
Yeah.
Right wing and bitter clinging rock and rollers.
Holy roller.
G-Haw.
Oh, I'm hard.
Right wing and bitter clinging.
Hard working.
He high off his power and his passion is his money.
He fires to his mind.
He knows to fire his fire.
And Trump and his trumpeters, they're not trumpeting.