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No.
Huh?
It's our buddy.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Thursday, November 12, 2015 time.
Once again, for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 773.
This is no agenda.
Preparing for the deportation forces and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone star state here in FEMA Region 6, Austin, Texas.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I just saw the California Zephyr slide by.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
Was it dirty?
Actually, it was.
The Zephyr?
All these trains are dirty.
You would think, this is the line that was taken over.
It used to be just the Western Pacific, and now it's somehow, I don't know how the Santa Fe ended up on it, but BNSF is Santa Fe, and they run their trains up and down.
You'd think...
That the company, Buffett's company, BNSF, would have some pride.
Not a little.
Just some.
Just a smidgen.
A little bit.
You can't even see the logo on these dirty engines.
They're just filthy.
They used to have a facility over in Oakland where all the trains went and kind of consolidated.
And I remember when there was this giant washing machine.
It was like a car wash thing, only huge.
Yeah.
And they'd slide these trains through this car wash, and the passenger trains in particular are made kind of stainless steel or aluminum.
It's stainless steel, I guess.
And they come out pretty clean.
I think they tore that out because it probably cost too much, or they didn't want to have to deal with recycling the water.
I have no idea.
Or they didn't care, which is what maybe I should be saying.
They don't care.
Another Zephyr update.
They don't care.
They don't care.
Of course they don't care.
I'm talking about all the BNSF stuff.
The rail stuff.
The engines go by.
It's a disgrace.
It's a disgrace, I tell you.
It is a disgrace.
It's just an outrage.
You need to have some pride in your own company.
Before we get the show underway, a disclaimer.
Trigger warning.
Trigger warning.
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Can you see that juice?
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That's a good one.
We have to run that all the time now.
Oh, we have a whole bunch of them.
Yeah, we have a different trigger warning for different days of the week.
Let me see who did this for us.
These are much needed.
I think they're fantastic.
It's Chris Wilson, one of our producers.
Yeah, here's a couple of good ones here.
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Douchebag.
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That's good.
We've got the voice for it.
No, people.
Just know.
No agenda is your safe space.
Your safe space.
It's your safe space.
Do you feel safe?
Well, after seeing the debates, not necessarily.
Yeah, I watched.
I had to.
And of course, did you get any clips?
Eh, you know, you know what I thought was more interesting was the analysis afterwards for media, which is more fun to deconstruct.
Okay.
And actually I was just clipping a phone, because I was trying to figure out where this meme all of a sudden came from.
Well, actually we know where it came from.
Donald Trump is either incredibly stupid or incredibly smart.
I'm not sure yet.
But this is about his stance in the debate about deporting anyone who's here illegally.
What was your feeling about that?
Well, actually, here, let me play it.
This is just for people who haven't heard it.
We are a country of laws.
We need borders.
We will have a wall.
The wall will be built.
The wall will be successful.
And if you think walls don't work, all you have to do is ask Israel.
The wall works.
Believe me.
Properly done.
Believe me.
Can you just send 5 million people back with no effect on the economy?
You're going to have to bring people.
You're going to have to send people out.
Look, we're a country of laws.
We either have a country or we don't have a country.
We are a country of laws.
Gonna have to go out and they'll come back, but they're gonna have to go out and hopefully they get back.
I love this sequence.
They're gonna have to go out, but they can come back, but they're gonna have to go out and hopefully they can come back.
But we have no choice if we're going to run our country properly and if we're going to be a country.
So what this resulted in is two things.
First, we had, you know, of course, Donald Trump said, oh, this is what Dwight Eisenhower did, everyone like Ike.
And immediately, the nickname for Dwight Eisenhower's deportation got attached to Donald Trump, which was Operation Wetback.
Yeah, yeah.
They were all over this operation.
So is this guy totally stupid, or has he figured out that this is a good thing to do?
I mean, surely, if you're going to bring up Dwight Eisenhower's deportation, which, if you look into it, really was at the urging of the Mexican government, and they were intimately and integrally involved, they were involved.
Of course, it wasn't called Operation Wetback.
That was slang.
But then, just to take it one step further...
Well, hold on.
The woman that came on the NewsHour claimed it was indeed called Operation Wetback.
Hmm.
Now, I haven't looked into that.
She was kind of a douchebag.
Well, it was part of the...
Was it the Bracero Program?
Bracero Program.
Well, I don't think so.
Well, it was an outflow, is what Wikipedia, a book of knowledge.
We're going to have to do our own research, because apparently nobody's getting this right.
But the Bracero Program, which they made a big stink about, The Bracero program, because I vaguely remember this.
I don't know how old, but I was a kid.
But I remember the Bracero program because it came into play.
It was busloads of Mexicans brought up from Mexico to pick tomatoes or to pick grapes or to pick stuff.
And then they got in their buses after they were done with their two or three weeks' work and they were shipped back to Mexico.
Right.
And it was because we were starving and we needed laborers to help with food during World War II. This Bracero program goes to World War II? I believe so.
And it had to do with poop?
Poop.
What?
Did I miss something?
They said poop.
I didn't say poop.
Did I say poop?
Yeah, so they came down here because we were starving and we needed help with poop.
Well, I didn't mean...
Did I say poop?
I thought so.
I don't think I said poop.
Oh, rewind.
No, I'm not going to rewind.
I guess you can't.
I'm not going to rewind.
I don't care.
It doesn't matter.
But then it was the Mexican government, according to what I found about Operation Webpack, who said, okay, now we've got to get these people back, and we'll help you.
And it seems like it didn't go too well.
But the thing that got me is then Mika Brzezinski launches, I haven't found it anywhere else, but she launches this meme.
I'm not just talking Mexico, they're coming in from Asia, they're coming in from all over the world.
Okay, conceptually I understand what you're saying and what you're describing, but still tell me that are you going to have a massive deportation force?
You're going to have a deportation force, and you're going to do it humanely, and you...
What?
Is this guy nuts?
I can't say...
I mean, if you're going to say deportation force, why don't you just hand out armbands?
That's nuts!
I mean, that Mika...
Yeah, I heard this clip, too.
I didn't know what to make of it.
That Mika launches it one thing, but now it's everywhere.
Oh, everyone's talking about it.
Oh, yeah, everyone got on board with that.
That's like, seek Heil!
Seek the Donald with your deportation force!
The only thing I can think is that somehow he has some research that says the Hispanics, or let's just say Mexicans who are in the United States legally, will endear Donald Trump for doing this.
That's all I can think of.
Otherwise, what a canard.
What a stupid, stupid thing to say.
I'm thinking more along the more conniving side of it.
Okay, alright.
Talk to me.
I just don't see any evidence that...
I mean, he started off with this...
It's almost as though his whole goal for running for president was to...
Was to just draw attention to this problem.
And I would say he's done his job.
Well, there's two things.
It's veterans.
He loves the veterans, by the way.
I love the veterans.
I love the veterans.
It's that and immigration.
But why?
I mean, why would he be interested in doing all this if it was only to launch these two pieces of controversy?
That's the mystery.
Yeah, exactly.
Because I have no idea.
It doesn't really have anything to do with this business that I can tell you.
He hires a lot of Mexicans to do his construction.
Yeah.
And I have no idea.
It's been...
It's always been...
It's been...
It's a mystery.
Yeah.
It is.
But no matter what, this...
I don't know.
There must be a strategy I'm not understanding because this is just not language.
Well, the strategy that you're not understanding is that he, to me, at least I could be wrong.
I think he wings it.
Yes, I agree.
And so he just lets the strategy happen.
So I don't say you can look for a strategy.
Right.
But to sit there and mimic Mika Brzezinski's term of deportation forces, that's just lunacy.
He doesn't care.
Nowhere does not care.
Well, I thought the debate was incredibly boring.
I actually thought...
Comparing the talk radio guys to my experience, and I experienced it twice because I had to watch it while getting the clips, and then I had to edit the clips.
Right.
And I ended up with a lot of stuff like this, this Kasich WTF clip.
This to me, they got to do something.
They got to get rid of Carly.
They got to get rid of Kasich.
I'm almost of the opinion that Kasich's only on the stage to disrupt Trump.
Huh.
I like him.
I don't like him at all.
I like him.
He's always butting in.
He thinks he owns the place.
He's got this dour look.
And here's a good example.
This case, a WTF clip.
Let's talk about the international economy.
The U.S. has recently concluded...
Governor, we really need to move on.
I think you were coming to me.
I hate to crash the party, Mr.
Baker, but you know, it's fair.
Mr.
Trump, can I ask you about this?
Yes.
But, you know, he has the most compassion.
He's a dick!
Okay.
All right.
And Carly, Carly's worst.
Uh-oh.
Whoa.
People who caught the interruption, she was the worst for it.
They had a...
I tried to have a couple of those, too, but the thing that still bothers me about her, more than anything...
And this audience was not much of a help.
Anytime anyone said anything about Carly, they'd boo them.
And then when Carly came on, they'd give this rousing applause for all her warmongering.
She wants to get us all killed.
She's pretty out there with the killing, isn't she?
Yeah, let's play a clip again.
Xena.
Play Carly One no-fly zone.
Oh yeah, here she goes.
You know, Mr.
Trump fancies himself a very good negotiator.
And I accept that he's done a lot of good deals.
So Mr.
Trump ought to know that we should not speak to people from a position of weakness.
Senator Paul should know that as well.
One of the reasons I've said that I would not be talking to Vladimir Putin right now, although I have met him as well, not in a green room for a show, but in a private meeting.
I'm cool!
One of the reasons I've said I wouldn't be talking to Vladimir Putin right now is because we are speaking to him from a position of weakness brought on by this administration.
So I wouldn't talk to him for a while, but I would do this.
I would start rebuilding the 6th Fleet right under his nose, rebuilding the missile defense program in Poland right under his nose.
I would conduct very aggressive military exercises in the Baltic states so that he understood we would protect our NATO allies and would-be allies.
And I might also put in a few more thousand troops into Germany not to start a war, but to make sure that Putin understands that the United States of America will stand with our allies.
That is why Governor Bush is correct.
We must have a no-fly zone in Syria because Russia cannot tell the United States of America where and when to fly our planes.
Putin!
Let me ask you this.
Their ally is Syria.
They're buddies with Syria.
That's their ally.
They're into Syria by invitation.
They're into northern Iraq by invitation.
They...
And she says Russia can't tell us where to fly our planes, but it's okay for us to tell Russia.
America!
America!
What are you talking about?
America!
This is not a country that we have any involvement in.
We don't have any relationship with Syria, and yet we're flying around.
Bomb them, bomb them, and bomb them again.
Is she a complete lunatic?
And why are they cheering this?
Because is this audience nuts?
This is the problem with the Republican Party.
Play the little short part of her speech, Carly, too, that followed what she just said.
Understand ISIS is their fight, but they must see leadership, support, and resolve from the United States of America.
And we must have the strongest military on the face of the planet, and everyone has to know it.
Senator Paul Meyer!
Yeah.
Well, isn't that kind of what America defaults to?
If we don't see any other way out of something, we just close our eyes and go, man, we'll kill them.
Now, the thing that came up also is with her and Bush.
Oh, we've got to do this.
We've got to spend more money on the military.
Our military budget is 10 times bigger than everyone else put together.
It's $640 billion.
It's outrageous.
I guess because we spend almost a trillion dollars on the military yearly and it keeps going up.
It goes up every year.
When they talk about cutting it back, they talk about cutting the going up part back.
John, it's our economy.
That is what our economy runs on.
Look at our vehicles.
They're all, you know, based on military designs.
You know.
Personnel carriers.
This is what we do.
Well, it's costing us money.
We also sell a lot of that stuff, you know.
Yes, we do.
Yeah.
Heaven forbid anybody else get in that business.
Did you have the idea that this...
And I'm sure you have other things you want to talk about about what happened to the debate, but...
It seemed to me that this hit job on Ben Carson, which was clearly coordinated, it rolled out over the weekend pretty much, and then just erupted into this.
It seems like there's only three people who could have been responsible for that.
One is Donald Trump.
Mm-hmm.
Which, you know, if you think about conniving, you know, he's made dumb buddy-buddy.
Hey, Ben, let's boycott this.
We'll work together.
Yeah, it looks like that.
Right?
He wants to take him out.
I don't see why he doesn't have that style that you think he would.
Well, the second possibility is Rubio, who, of course, now has some, you know, new billion-dollar sugar daddy backer.
So he's got, you know, maybe there was something there.
But...
Really?
I think it was probably the Bush camp, because if you look at the numbers...
They have a machine.
Yeah.
And eliminating someone is going to behoove Bush.
Yes.
So to me, it seemed like that was really, really a hit.
There are two machines that are in the game.
One of them is the Clinton machine, and the other one is the Bush machine.
These are the two power operations, and that would be the most likely to do this, because they're just, you know, he was being interviewed by somebody about some of the stuff written in their strategy statements that was internal.
He says he doesn't read any of that stuff, and the guy wanted to read something to him on one of the shows.
It was an ABC show.
Yeah.
Actually, the clip is still around.
It's ABC, which is the promoters of Bush.
And he actually threw the sheet back at him, at the guy, at the reporter.
He said, well, let me read it to you.
No, no, no, and he throws it back.
Wait, do you have this clip somewhere?
You have it.
What's it called?
I think it has ABC Bush, and it's the most recent.
I think it was from last week or the week before.
ABC Bush.
Hmm.
Not seeing it.
Nothing with ABC Bush.
Well, it's not ABC Bush.
It's something ABC is still supporting Bush or ABC brings Bush back into play or something like that.
Okay.
Can't find it.
Sorry.
Allow me to just play three quick clips about concerning the Ben Carson hit job.
Yeah.
Because it spread pretty wide.
So first we have CNN. This is one of their political commentators, Mark Lamont Hill.
I have no idea who he is.
The greatest lie.
What?
Mark Lamont Hill is a former professor who Hannity, I'm pretty sure it's Hannity mostly, and I think once in a while O'Reilly used to bring on as a fast-talking left-wing black who could hold his own against anybody, especially O'Reilly.
And he got so full of himself, I think he quit his professorship and now he's a full-time analyst on these networks.
Yes, certainly for CNN. The greatest lie in American history is the myth of the self-made person.
Nobody makes themselves.
We're all shaped by our communities.
Obama.
I love this.
That's an Obama meme.
It's actually Elizabeth Warren started it, you'll recall.
She's the one that started that at one of those little Democrat house parties.
She was saying, who built the roads, who built the bridges.
That's taxpayer money.
By people who struggled and sacrificed for us.
By governments that offer safety nets.
Who'd struggle and sacrifice for you, John?
Please, please tell me.
My parents.
It doesn't matter.
You're not a self-made man.
Don't worry about it.
And what Ben Carson is able to do, essentially, is reject all that stuff.
Ben Carson is able to say, I was saved by Jesus and hard work.
That allows him to reject a safety net.
That allows him to push back against the expansion of a welfare state.
That allows him to resist tax cuts for the for the middle class and the poor and tax hikes for the wealthy.
It allows him to create an entire narrative.
And when people say, hey, wait a minute, why are you doing this?
Ben Carson can say, hey, because I did it myself.
And it makes white voters feel comfortable to say that, look, this black guy himself is telling you.
To be clear here, guys, I got to wrap it up.
That's an interesting concept that the strategy of being religious in a presidential race is so you can say, hey, I didn't rely on anything.
But my creator and God and then according to this guy, white people like that.
Fascinating.
Then we had the NewsHour, and I'm going to presume, just knowing how television news works, that they said, hey, Gwen, you've got to do this story, because we can't have a white person taking down Ben Carson.
Well, we've got a black person!
And she's nervous.
Did you see this, her takedown of Ben Carson?
I don't think so.
And she's so nervous doing it.
Gwen, you've been on the trail.
Gwen, you're black.
You can do the story.
Long time over the years.
Personal stories.
Thanks.
No, no, no.
And you're old.
Okay.
Nasty.
Gwen, you've been on the trail a long time over the years.
Personal stories.
Thanks.
No, no, no.
And I guess it...
What a laugh she has.
I never realized that.
I never heard her laugh.
It's pretty nasty.
It's very bad.
It's a bad laugh.
Oh, man.
All right, onward.
To me, the danger for Dr.
Carson is the fact that his candidacy is built on biography and built on honesty.
It is built on saying, this is who I am, these are my bootstraps, and we all admire that.
The interesting thing about people, the outsiders we talk about so much, is that they all seem surprised what it takes to run for president.
And what it takes to run for president is scrutiny.
When Dr.
Carson says there has never been scrutiny like there has been directed at him, that is just not so.
I think, I mean, we were all there, trike, trash, ugh.
Gwen got real nervous because she's about to lay into some stuff here that hasn't been talked about in years except on this show.
We were all there when Bill Clinton went through the whole thing with killing Vince Foster.
With the airstrip in Maine, Arkansas.
Yeah, all true.
We're still talking about Barack Obama's birth certificate years after he was president.
There's always this scrutiny.
And each and every one of the time, those folks hated it.
They complained it.
They felt like victims.
And of course, this is the way Dr.
Carson, who has great self-regard, as he deserves to because he accomplished the His objection to the double standard.
This week there is the NDA story in the Free Beacon.
There is the story of Teneo refusing to answer.
Mrs.
Clinton is not being covered in the same way Ben Carson is being covered.
And Mrs.
Clinton would say, you know what, that there was also a report saying that those two emails that were supposed to be classified were not classified and nobody covered that.
Oh, way to go on defending Clinton.
Wow, weak.
Weak.
Isn't that great?
Oh, that was, that's, that's fantastic.
I know.
No, it's alright.
Borderline, come on, borderline clip of the day.
That's really a good clip.
I'll take a borderline from you, no problem.
Take a borderline.
Borderline.
Blah!
Bam!
Bam!
Alright, then we have The View.
As you know, I believe The View is incredibly important to our culture.
Looking at the ratings, many, many women watch this show and get their news from The View and believe.
Yes, they do.
And it's a sad state of affairs.
He said last month, the Baltimore police couldn't verify that he was held at gunpoint.
He spoke to General Westmore on Memorial Day, but the general wasn't in Baltimore at that time.
There's too many things against him.
He needs to give his house.
But here's the thing.
Do you really think he's a retired neurosurgeon?
He performed the first surgery.
He could join twins.
No, but I'm just saying, like, does he really strike you guys as a pathological liar?
I think most people will say no.
I don't think he's a liar.
I do think they should put his book in the fiction section.
If you remember when James Frey...
Thank you.
When James Frey wrote A Million Little Pieces and Oprah had them on and it was his story and then it was revealed that actually...
She ripped him a new one.
She sure did.
And guess what?
His book was moved from non-fiction next to The Cat in the Hat.
And I think we should do the same with...
What a bunch of bigots.
Cat in the Hat is great, though.
It's a good line.
The lines are good.
But it's like written lines.
I mean, this is like...
Oh, no, that's written.
Since we're The View, we don't have to really adhere to any sort of ethics.
No, of course not.
So let's just rip this guy.
Yes, that's the point.
It's a coordinated attack.
There's no doubt.
Is that on ABC, The View?
I think it is, isn't it?
I'm pretty sure that would make sense.
Oh, if it's ABCs on the...
Yeah, that would make more than enough sense because that, again, puts it back into the purview of the Bushes.
It's ABC, yeah.
So that would be the Bushes.
Okay, that's right in line with our thinking.
Yeah.
The Bushes, they got a machine.
ABC is a big supporter of Bush, which now I'm going to have to go look at.
Because they own Disney.
They own Disney.
Florida.
Yeah, governor of Florida.
The whole thing.
Yeah.
And every time, and I've been still watching ABC, and every time anything comes up, it's always, Bush could have 1%.
They do a 10-minute interview with him.
Why?
What do you think you're down to 1% for?
Well, people don't understand what I'm up to.
Well, what are you up to?
And then he goes on and all his ideas, and they say, oh, that's fantastic.
I'm surprised you're at 1%.
You should be a lot higher.
Yeah.
You know, I keep getting the suspicion that's just creeping up on me that, and here it comes, at the end of the day, it's going to be Clinton against Bush.
It's that disgusting.
It really is.
Well, Bush is still performing poorly on the debate stage and is eating it.
It's got to be bugging him.
He looks like an idiot because he's farsighted.
I've said this before.
When you're farsighted, when you wear glasses to correct your vision, they're magnifiers.
That's just the nature of them.
And so your eyes are bigger than they would be normally.
Yeah, it looks creepy.
And it looks creepy.
It looks like the one guy on stage with big, giant, alien eyes.
And he's looking around.
However, John, however...
Too tall.
However, when Tina the Keeper wears her glasses, she doesn't look creepy.
She's farsighted.
Most women are.
Yeah, no, most women aren't.
It's a good thing.
Yeah.
It is.
Hey baby, objects may appear bigger in the mirror.
It's a really good thing.
And then when they have their glasses off, which is a lot of times they can't see if you're even wrinkled.
They can't even see.
They've got to feel around to find your face.
Unfortunately, I'm nearsighted.
And by the way, women, because they wear makeup around their eyes, it looks great when they have the glasses on.
But Bush just looks like a creep up there.
Oh, yeah.
It all works out.
Yeah.
There was a very disturbing...
While we're at it, play the Charlie Rose on being pretty ISO. You begin to think inside I'm pretty because there are some people who never believe they're pretty because growing up they never thought they were pretty.
Ta-da!
What the hell is that all about?
He's flirting with Gisele Bundchen.
Ow!
Ow!
He's such a horn dog!
Good ISO. Thank you.
Good ISO. Hey, something that relates to this.
There was a report that came out, and I call it on BBC... An increasing warped sense of humor could be an early warning sign of impending dementia.
Yeah, I saw that too.
That went around the Twitters.
Yeah, so first of all, I'm very concerned about us.
Let's be honest.
But then how about this?
And she says she's a great CEO. Every time I see her on TV, I want to reach through and strangle her.
I know that doesn't sound very nice, but...
I wouldn't mess with you.
I think she has dementia.
Who?
Hillary Clinton.
Oh, yeah.
She's laughing about the guy saying he wants to strangle Carly Fiorina, which was immediately used as, oh, double standard.
I thought the joke was funny.
It was a funny joke.
What was the joke?
There was no joke involved.
The guy said, every single time I hear Carly Fiorina, I just want to strangle her.
What kind of a joke is that?
The way he said it was funny.
It was a funny thing to say, maybe, but it's not a joke.
A joke has structure.
It wasn't a joke.
You're right.
It was a humorous commentary.
That you found amusing.
Yeah.
Well, that's different.
But it wasn't all that bad.
But I'm just worried about Clinton.
I think she bumped her head.
Yeah.
And she has brain damage.
And now she's got crazy laughs.
Which is...
Play the nasty little laugh.
Okay, where's nasty little laugh?
I don't see nasty little laugh.
Well, you know, the laugh.
Oh, you mean her laugh?
Oh, I'm sorry.
That's BPA, man.
She's got BPA. There's medication for it.
She might have BPA. Yeah, there's medication for it.
Don't worry about it.
Wouldn't be the first thing she's taken.
All right, continue with your report.
All right, let's go back to the debates.
Here's a good example of these needless interruptions that were taking place.
And this is Rand Paul getting interrupted.
I'd like for us to respond to the accusation of We should, I think it's particularly naive and particularly foolish to think that we're not going to talk to Russia.
The idea of a no-fly zone, realize that this is also something Hillary Clinton agrees with several on our side with.
You're asking for a no-fly zone in an area in which Russia already flies.
Russia flies in that zone at the invitation of Iraq.
I'm not saying it's a good thing, but you better know at least what we're getting into.
So when you think it's going to be a good idea to have a no-fly zone of Iraq, realize that means you are saying we are going to shoot down Russian planes.
If you're ready for that, be ready to send your sons and daughters to another war in Iraq.
I don't want to see that happen.
I think the first war in Iraq was a mistake.
You can be strong without being involved in every civil war around the world.
How would you respond?
Ronald Reagan was strong, but Ronald Reagan didn't send troops in the military.
And Ronald Reagan walked away at Reykjavik.
He walked away, he quit talking, when it was time to quit talking.
Can I finish with my time?
Why does she keep interrupting everybody?
Has that turned into a misogynistic comment yet?
I've been waiting for that.
Not yet, but I'm surprised it hasn't.
Yeah, it should be.
Just waiting for it.
Yeah, I'd like to finish my response, basically.
Now, was the crowd booing Trump for a misogynistic comment?
Yeah.
Or did Carly just have all her shills in there?
That's what it sounded like to me.
They had a good ground game.
They're up in Wisconsin.
What kind of shills would you have in Milwaukee?
You can bust them in.
This is an incredibly important question.
And the question goes to be, who do we want to be our commander-in-chief?
Not you.
Twerp, not you!
I want a commander-in-chief who says something that we never did throughout the entire Cold War, to discontinue having conversations with the Russians.
I'm not happy about them flying over there, but I'm not naive enough to say, well, Iraq has them flying over their airspace, we're just going to announce that we're shooting them down?
That is naive to the point of being something you might hear in junior high, but it's scary.
But if you're not going to respond in a no-fly zone strategy, what would yours be?
The first thing I would do is I wouldn't arm our enemies.
I wouldn't arm ISIS. Yeah.
All right.
Well, let's talk about something television-wise about this particular show.
Okay.
I love the floor.
I love it when they have the high-gloss floor.
That makes for a great shot.
Overuse of star filters every single time they came back from a commercial break.
Like, is this 1970?
We're using star filters on your lens?
Yeah.
That was very, very peculiar.
That was very, I was lax.
So a crappy venue doesn't at all give a grandiose impression.
You know, it's a theater.
It's hard to make that look really big.
It's a crappy venue.
The great Milwaukee, it's a theater that needs to be redone.
And I personally, I felt that Maria Bartiromo's hair was just off.
It was just awful.
No, it wasn't awful, but she had this one on the left-hand side, or for us right, it was just this big flap, like a big flap hanging down.
And then her eyes, she clearly had eyelashes on, but she had them all clumped together.
I didn't like it at all.
She has beautiful eyes, but she's...
I don't know.
It's like, where's the crimping tool, girl?
Use that.
And then...
There was another problem that I had.
No, and then there's a British guy.
Well, yeah.
Get that guy out of our system.
It felt really wrong to have some British guy asking questions for an American presidential debate.
Yeah, as if we need approval from the British.
Oh, the British monarchists, yes.
I'm just going to be a real douche about it.
I don't want that.
You are a douche about it, but I agree with you.
Yeah, I don't like that.
Go away.
We have Americans questioning at question time for the Prime Minister?
No.
I've never seen that.
I don't think so.
Alright, well, onward.
Let's play, here's another one.
Actually, I've got two Rubio clips.
This is a short one.
It's actually an ISO. He's going on about parenting, and the most important job is to be a parent, and the most important job is to be a parent to your kids.
But what's he really thinking on this clip, Rubio, on the most important job?
The most important job any of us will ever do is the job of being a president, because the most important institution in society is the family.
No, I heard that one too.
And it's always, because no agenda producers and listeners, we're aware.
So we hear this kind of stuff.
And then you can hear the room almost go, but then no one says, excuse me, you meant parent, but you said president.
You know, like Hillary.
The Hillary one's even better.
Do you have that queued up?
I could get it almost like it was Hillary.
That's absolutely a 10.
Yeah, we can get that.
Yeah, here it is.
Every year, hundreds of thousands of prisoners reenter society.
That's the good news.
They've paid their debt.
They're free.
But then what happens?
They look for a job.
Everywhere they go, doors are shut in their faces.
That starts all over again, a cycle of poverty and hopelessness that too often can lead to more crime.
Earlier today, I announced that as president, I will take steps to ban the the box so former presidents won't have to declare their criminal history at the very start of the hiring process.
That way they'll have it.
I might have it ISO somewhere, actually.
Alright, let's go on.
So here's an Ask Adam.
This is one of my rhetorical bullcrap questions.
Well, it doesn't matter.
Is the Rubio on military?
Oh, I don't get to play my jingle?
We'll play it after.
The Middle East beheading people and crucifying Christians.
A radical Shia cleric in Iran trying to get a nuclear weapon.
The Chinese taking over the South China Sea.
Yes, I believe the world is a safer...
No, no, I don't believe.
believe I know that the world is a safer and better place when America is the strongest military power in the world.
That's the techno version.
All right, ask Adam.
What was your question?
That one has to go.
That one needs to go.
What was the question?
He goes on and on about China's doing this, and they're getting a bomb, and Iran, and Ukraine, Russia's pushing us around, all these things.
And so he knows that if we were a powerful country, we wouldn't have these things.
We are powerful.
We are spending a fortune on the military and all this is going on around us.
What I would say, well, what you've just described, apparently, with all the money we're spending, which is more than every other country combined, all of them, China, Russia, put them all together, not as much as us.
With all this money we're spending to be the most powerful country in the world...
And all these things are going around and around and around that are happening, these horrible things.
It's apparently not doing us any good.
How do you respond to that, Mr.
Rubio?
Is that a question for me?
Yes.
To me it's apparent.
Of the $640 billion we spend annually on the military-industrial complex, I'm pretty sure maybe only $60 billion actually turns into stuff.
The rest is probably squandered, stolen, funneled away, put into projects that don't do anything.
So maybe we're weaker than we think.
We just spend a lot of crazy money on it because we have not audited any of this.
That's right, the Defense Department, they can't audit it.
It's too hard.
We can't afford the number of accountants it would take.
How hard would it be?
$600 billion.
We don't have any companies that size.
I don't know who the biggest company is in terms of sales.
But they audit those companies and maybe just need 10 times as many people.
I'm sure there's $60 billion.
I don't know what Exxon is, but it's probably up there.
But if you have a company making $60 billion and you need to do profit and losses, which the military doesn't have to do.
But you know what?
Your point is made.
You've made this point over the past several episodes.
Yeah.
We spend a lot on military.
Got it.
Yeah.
I got it.
Well, I know, but when these guys come up and say crap like this, this reminds me of the other thing that's going on, which is, oh, this crazy terrorism thing took place in a country that is surveillance central.
Everything's being surveilled, but they can't stop anything.
Yeah.
What good is it?
Why even spend that money?
You know...
Do I have anything else here?
I did want to mention that NBC published a statement, and they said that any official candidate who qualifies is entitled to 12 minutes and 5 seconds of airtime in the same slot, the same time slot, that Donald Trump got for Saturday Night Live.
Okay.
Interestingly, although this was not reported, we didn't discuss it either, NBC also previously issued a statement for, I think it was a five minute, three minutes and 25 second time slot, because Hillary Clinton did her cameo.
Right, she did.
Yeah.
Well, I'm just...
No, it's just because we talked about the...
I don't know where that's headed.
The equal time rule.
Yeah.
I don't think anyone's going to take him up on it.
No one took him up on Hillary's five minutes.
They should have.
Bernie should have gotten on.
Yeah.
Well, maybe they're still going after that.
I can just see...
Here's a prediction.
If not this Saturday, next Saturday, Bernie Sanders on Saturday Night Live with Larry David.
I'll do it, yeah.
You can see the skit coming.
Oh, no, that's coming, yeah.
You can see the skit coming.
That's like Sarah Palin and Tina Fey.
Yeah, exactly.
All right.
Anything else on the debate?
Well, the Trump on Syria clip, I don't think we played that.
No, I can play that for you.
You want to lead in, or are you good to go?
I think it's...
I can't think of what it's about.
But if Putin wants to go and knock the hell out of ISIS, I am all for it, 100%, and I can't understand how anybody would be against it.
They blew up.
Hold it.
They blew up.
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
They blew up.
A Russian airplane.
He cannot be in love with these people.
He's going in and we can go in and everybody should go in.
As far as the Ukraine is concerned, We have a group of people and a group of countries, including Germany, tremendous economic behemoth.
Why are we always doing the work?
I'm all for protecting Ukraine and working, but we have countries that are surrounding the Ukraine that aren't doing anything.
They say, keep going, keep going, you dummies, keep going, protect us.
I love that.
And what is that bell?
It's a game show, Bill.
It's insulting.
It's insulting.
We can't continue to be the policemen of the world.
We owe $19 trillion.
We have a country that's going to hell.
We have an infrastructure that's falling apart.
Our roads, our bridges, our schools, our airports.
And we have to start investing money in our country.
Donald is wrong on this.
He is absolutely wrong on this.
We're not going to be the world's policemen, but we sure as heck better be the world's leader.
There's a huge difference where without us leading, voids are filled.
And the idea that it's a good idea for Putin to be in Syria, let ISIS take out Assad, and then Putin will take out ISIS, I mean, that's like a board game.
That's like playing Monopoly or something.
That's not how the real world works.
There's a need for a rescue mission.
When the world is threatened, the world needs help.
It calls on America.
And that's the story.
Yo!
That is the story.
Yep.
I don't know.
The overnight ratings put it at 13.5 million viewers.
That's an 8.9 rating, which is just a little bit under CNBC's...
Yeah, that's because CNBC and Fox Business have to, people don't have that.
That's a subscription.
It's just, no.
I'm not saying anything other than, first of all, it's huge.
This is bigger than, I think, any debates.
Yeah, that's because you really tune in.
It's somewhat lively, even though you have these two interrupters who I'm more and more convinced are planted.
Why is Kasich even up to?
He's got no chance at anything.
He's got no machine.
He's just a stooge.
I like him.
I think he's a dick.
Okay.
Well, fine.
This is what we're allowed to do in America.
See, I don't have to call you out as a crazy guy just because you have a different opinion.
I don't think there's anything else.
That's my summary.
Nothing.
I do have the ISO, which I think is funny, which is the...
Where's the other ISO? Oh, actually, play Bush on taxes.
We'll finish with that.
Governor Bush, Republican primary voters say tax reform should be a priority for Congress and the administration.
This is a yes or no question he's asked.
And what do you think he does?
Do you think he answers this question?
Uh, no.
Why would he?
And so he goes on and on.
And then I had to cut it off because it was just like, okay, you're just full of crap.
Governor Bush, Republican primary voters say tax reform should be a priority for Congress and the administration.
But Governor Bush, how important is tax reform in your domestic policy agenda?
Will you guarantee it in the first year of your presidency?
I'm going to fight as hard as I can to make sure that we shift power away from Washington, simplify the tax code to spur economic activity in this country.
Of course it's the highest priority.
If we don't do that, we're stuck with the new normal of 2% growth.
Hillary Clinton says, basically, we just got to get used to it.
2% growth means declining income for the middle class.
It means more than 6 million people are stuck in poverty than the day that Barack Obama was inaugurated.
It means more demands on...
on the day this is the on the day this is he's a he he can't really construct a sentence compared to some of these other guys And I do want to play, now I think about one more clip.
All right.
Only because it's short.
These clips are pretty short.
This is the Cruise clip where he starts to moan about sugar cane subsidies out of the blue.
I know why.
I know why, too.
We all know why.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, let's listen to it, but I want to hear why from you, and I'll give you my why.
Among them are corporate welfare, like sugar subsidies.
Let's take that as an example.
Sugar subsidies.
Sugar farmers...
Farm on roughly 0.2% of the farmland in America, and yet they give 40% of the lobbying money.
That sort of corporate welfare is why we're bankrupting our kids and grandkids.
I would end those subsidies to pay for defending this nation.
All right, why did he bring that up?
John C. DeBora?
Rubio's the big man behind those subsidies.
Oh, I would say there's a little ancillary issue.
What's the real reason?
Bernie Sanders, if you look at who has contributed to his campaign, it's every single union you can imagine and the sugar lobby.
Yeah, but he's not running against Bernie Sanders.
He's running against Rubio.
Yeah, but it's handy to pound Sanders down.
Sanders will never see the light of day.
So, it's interesting, though.
Most of these guys are corrupt.
Ugh.
I think we should just draw straws, get it over with, then do some reruns.
If your thesis is correct, which I can't really argue against, it's going to be Bush versus Clinton.
That's what it seems like.
The public should be up in arms over this.
Yeah, we're not.
Oh, no, it's much worse.
We're not.
The Democrats are all in for Hillary.
I got to tell you, man.
I shouldn't do this to myself, but I listened to Serious Progress 127.
You love it.
You should be getting some clips.
Well, I do from time to time.
I get some clips.
But I've got to start clipping this guy, Michelangelo Signorelli.
No, I don't know.
Never heard of him?
Oh, man.
All he does is, these people are retards.
It's the clown car.
They're insane.
There's so much hate.
So much hate on that channel.
It's just unbelievable.
Chank used to be the same way.
Chunk.
Yeah, Chunk.
I know.
I know.
Chunk.
I think we should do a little entremant before we thank some producers, because this is just bumming me out.
How about some LGBTQIAAP clips?
Good.
Always good.
This is part of the Screw the Gays, and this will start with Congressman Gohmert, who clearly wants everyone to know that...
And I guess he's...
Is he also a preacher?
Does he have a congregation?
Does he have a church?
Is he speaking to a congregation, some big megachurch?
No, I don't think he does.
Well, let's just take a totally secular approach to this.
Congress is good about having studies.
How about if we take four heterosexual couples and put them on an island where they have everything they need to live and exist?
And we take four couples of just men, put them on an island where they have all they need to survive.
And then let's take four couples of just women and put them on an island.
And then let's come back in 100 years and see, you know, which one nature favors.
Just see, you know.
Let's just see.
Yeah, that's really breaking it down to the essence there, Mr.
Gomer.
Gomer is a clown.
Oh yeah, but then this guy, and this was so good, if you want an ISO, we're going to have to work on it together.
Hold on a second, what is happening here?
What?
Hold on.
Something's going off in the next room.
Anyway, I'll play this, but this is...
Hold on one second, John.
I don't know what happened.
Hold on one second.
Last time he did this, he left the water running in the bathroom.
And he's probably cooking something.
It's the dumbest thing ever.
I have a Bose sound bar thing for my TV. Yeah?
And if you mute it, after half an hour it unmutes.
Like, that's handy.
That makes no sense.
Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
So it just went off.
Yeah, and you only have two modes.
Either, if you're muted, it will turn off after 30 minutes.
So you have to turn it on again?
Or if you mute it and you can set that mode, then it will unmute after 30 minutes.
What country is it?
Is it German?
No.
It's New England.
Bose is New England?
Yeah.
Well, they need to talk.
They need a talking to.
All right, this is a Colorado pastor, pastor, pastor.
He's a pastor.
Kevin Swanson.
Man, this thing is so good that, you know, if you want an ISO, let me know.
We can create it on the fly.
Sackcloth and ashes.
I was thinking, you know, there are parents, and this is not a funny thing, there are families whose, and we're talking Christian families, pastors' families, elders' families, in good godly churches, their sons are rebelling, hanging out with homosexuals and getting married, and the parents are invited.
What would you do if that was the case?
Here's what I would do.
Sackcloth and ashes at the entrance to the church.
And I'd sit in cow manure.
And I'd spread it all over my body.
That's what I would do.
And I'm not kidding.
I'm not laughing.
I'm grieving.
I'm mourning.
I'm pointing out the problem!
It's not a gay time!
These are the people with the sores!
The gaping sores!
The sores that are pussy and gross!
And people are coming in and carving happy faces on the sores!
That's not a nice thing to do!
Don't you dare carve happy faces on open pussy sores!
Don't you ever do that!
Don't you ever do that!
I tell you don't do it!
Sack cloth and ashes!
This is what America needs America needs to hear the message We are messed up.
Yeah, do not...
Who is this lunatic?
Do not...
Back this up.
Do not carve happy faces into pussy...
Pussing...
Pussing sores?
Yeah.
Man, oh man.
Well, it started when he started screaming.
That's where he flipped.
Well, we can...
That's where the Daiso would begin when he first started screaming.
Here we go.
And the parents are inviting...
I'm grieving!
I'm mourning!
That's okay, and then...
I'm pointing out the problem!
Ha!
That's kind of good.
Pointing out the problem's good.
Hold on.
Let me ISO that.
All right.
Pointing out the problem.
This is great.
Okay.
Pointing out the problem.
Okay.
We can use these later.
That's for sure.
I'm pointing out the problem!
All right.
And then we go on.
It's not a gay time!
It's not a gay time.
I think that's the ISO. I'm pointing out a problem.
I'm pointing out a problem.
It's not the gay time.
Or you can leave not the gay time off.
Because I'm pointing out a problem.
I'm pointing out a problem I think is good.
I think that's good by itself.
These are the people with the sores, the gaping sores.
That's good too, as a standalone.
I told you.
These are the people with the sores, the gaping sores.
And that's it, that's done.
These are the people with the sores, the gaping sores.
That's perfect.
Hold on.
Gaping sores, okay.
But then maybe we want to also ISO this over here.
Sores that are pussy and gross and people are coming in and carving happy faces on the sores.
That's not a nice thing to do.
Wait, maybe here's better.
Don't you dare carve happy faces on open pussy sores!
Right there.
That's it.
What should we do?
Listen to the ending, if we should include that.
Don't you dare carve happy faces on open pussy sores!
Don't you ever do that.
Don't you ever do that.
I think that should be at the end.
Don't you ever do that?
I wouldn't do that.
No?
You don't think that's...
No, I think because the ISO should be just all energy.
Okay.
And then if you do a fade out like that, it kind of is anticlimactic.
It's funny.
And I think the whole clip is a dynamite clip.
Okay, let's try it.
So I would just keep it a little shorter.
Okay, well then why don't we try this?
Hold on.
Okay.
So I think...
I think we got three, which is a lot.
Here we go.
Now we can do this.
Don't you dare carve happy faces on open pussy...
Oops.
That has to be open pussy sore.
Sorry.
Okay.
Don't you ever do that?
No, that's also wrong.
Heh.
Don't you ever do that?
Don't you dare carve happy faces on open pussy sore?
Oh man, I can't get it right.
A little S. Yeah, there is some S. Oh, I see what it is.
He's got a little S right there.
This is how production works, by the way.
Yeah, and you can imagine doing this all day.
Don't you dare carve happy faces on open pussy sword!
Oh my gosh!
Can you see that juice?
I think we have a winner.
You got three winners.
Oh, man.
Dynamite.
Good work.
I like this.
And with that, I'd like to say in the morning, and thank you for your courage, John C. Dvorak!
In the morning to you, Adam Curry.
In the morning to all ships at sea, boots on the ground.
Subs in the water.
And all the dames and knights out there.
In the morning, everybody in the chat room.
NoagendaStream.com.
In the morning to our artistes.
In the morning to Nick the Rat.
Nick the Rat brought us the...
Album art for episode 772.
Title of that was Grimm Math, and Nick's art was just a soul-solitary bicycle in the snow up near Norway.
It was one of our rare...
Minimalist.
Very minimalist piece, yes.
Very minimalist.
And you can find all of the pieces at noagendaartgenerator.com.
And, of course, we highly appreciate the work that everybody does.
It makes a big difference.
People do listen to the show when they see new art.
It's a reminder.
It's prevalent.
It goes everywhere when we start to tweet the show out.
So it's highly appreciated, and it's very big, big difference.
So our first donor today is Cesar Miramontes, who was from Guadalajara, Mexico, who I met with to receive the fine donation of $1,000 InstaNight.
Oh, this was when?
Yesterday?
Yesterday.
Cool.
Where'd you meet him?
I drove down to Redwood City.
Huh.
Or San Mateo.
San Mateo.
I had to go across there.
I know he was at meetings at Oracle.
He's an Oracle engineer.
Oh, okay.
And some team that does some...
He tried to explain it to me.
And he's typically in Mexico?
That's where he works?
He's Mexican.
He lives in Mexico.
He works for Oracle in Mexico.
There it is.
Taking our jobs once again.
So he's down there.
Are you sure he's not El Chapo in disguise?
We talked about El Chapo.
He had a story, a funny story.
He said El Chapo has escaped two prisons, right?
Yeah.
Well, escape is a big word.
Maybe help out.
He was assisted to find some other place to live.
It's like Remax.
It's like Remax program down there.
Get your new house.
The first time he was in prison, they said he escaped.
According to one of his buddies who happens to know something about this, he was never in prison.
He kind of showed up on the weekends for photo ops.
Yeah, it's just a photo op.
Hey, I'm here again.
The rest of the time, he was living nearby.
So he didn't have to have a long...
This is so much like Narcos about Pablo Escobar when he built his own castle.
That was his prison.
You remember that?
I don't know if you've seen the series, but it's...
No, I haven't watched it yet.
It's pretty cool.
Although I did watch, we'll talk about it.
Well, did he have anything, any inside dirt on Oracle?
Anything, you know, could he poop where he works?
No.
I don't think so.
I don't think he's going to give me anything.
And what was his reasoning for being an intonite, an instanite?
Well, it kind of says in his note.
Okay.
Okay, so I've been a listener to the best podcast in the universe since the first show, all because I was a listener of Adam's Daily Source Code.
Oh, okay.
He's one of those guys.
And gals.
There's gals there, too.
Where Adam...
Mentioned he was going to do another show with John called No Agenda.
I haven't donated at all.
In other words, he's listened to every show.
He told me he went back and listened to everything from show one.
And I said, boy, those early shows are terrible.
Why'd you bother?
He says, yeah, they were bad.
Thanks.
That's what he said.
I said, he started good around 200.
Yeah, 200 is about the time.
Well, he needs a dedouching then.
Yeah, he'll get one.
Let me finish reading.
Okay.
This donation is just a small portion of what the show deserves.
Nice.
It's what I can afford right now, $1,000.
I'm separated and for sure will go through divorce soon, too.
Oh, no.
Let's just say this donation is like 14 plus times a $69.69 donation for a turbocharged swazzle enough karma.
You can give him a dedouching there.
I think it's good.
All right.
You've been dedouched.
I'd like to be knighted as Sir Cesar Caton.
Caton.
C-A-T-O and Caton.
Thanks, John and Adam.
Is it Cesar or Caesar?
You know, he pronounces not Caesar or Cesar.
He pronounces his pronunciation.
I can't duplicate.
It's a Guadalajara accent.
I can't do it.
What should we do for the ceremony?
Caesar.
Okay.
Or Cesar.
I think Cesar.
Kaiser.
Kaiser.
Thanks, John and Adam, for your services, Guardians of Reality.
I live in Guadalajara, so if you ever come there, I'll gladly take you out for some sightseeing.
Oh, excellent.
Where is Guadalajara?
I think it's on the coast, south of the main part of Mexico.
South on the coast, probably south.
I think it's south.
Everything must have been destroyed by Hurricane Patricia.
You should have brought that up.
Amazing.
He still has any life left?
Oh, no.
His car shot out into the outer space.
All right.
I look forward to putting Sir Caesar Catan right up there today with our ceremony.
It's going to be a lot of fun.
And he asked for a supercharged swazzle enough karma, which by way of a great exception I will give him.
If you guys are really us, what number are we thinking of?
69, dudes!
You've got karma.
And thank you so much.
So now we have Sir Julian coming in from Morgan Hill, California with $500.
I haven't heard from him in a while.
Well, he's got code.
Blue puck, fire hydrant, no agenda, Spartan 01, kisses.
KF5 SLN. I got a note from someone about the last code we read.
Yeah.
Maybe the show is a conduit for code.
I was going to say that this is the new way of spycraft.
Statecraft is sending encoded messages through podcasts.
We may become important, John.
Yeah, or kill.
So blue puck fire hydrant, we know that.
The blue puck signifies the fire hydrant.
No agenda, that's us.
Spartan zero one kisses.
I don't know what it means.
Well, I got a note from somebody.
I didn't print it out, so I can't read it.
Because the last time we read it, apparently it was an homage to some dead hacker.
Oh.
So, don't know.
I don't think we're supposed to know, actually.
No, no.
But we do have people that can decode these things and they'll let us know if it's important.
Well, thank you very much, Sir Julian.
It's appreciated, of course.
And give him some karma.
Yeah, I'm happy to do that.
You've got...
Karma.
Sir Semi-Anonymous in Not Sunnyvale, California, $400, requesting anonymity in name and location.
Refer to me as Sir Semi-Anonymous, please.
The donations for a massive dose of job hunting karma as I'm applying to what I presently consider to be a perfect job.
Thanks for the show as well.
Always enjoyable.
Okay, we'll give you some jobs.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
Yay!
You've got karma.
Thank you, Sir Semi-Anonymous.
Trevor Mudge in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
$333.
Now, he...
I have corresponded with him in the past, and he said...
There's no note we can find.
I don't have a note.
I looked.
I don't have a note.
Okay.
Oh, wait.
Let me just check.
Maybe...
He has something to say.
He'll tell us later.
Yeah, I don't see anything.
OOP Technologies, OOP Technologies in Louisville, Texas, 23456, one of my favorite donations.
ITM, John and Adam, please keep up with the great work and the best podcasts in the universe.
Can I get a mac and cheese, Karma, and a little girl, yay.
And this is Surotaku, K5VZ. KF5SLN73s.
Ditto.
Yeah, very good.
Okay, mac and cheese.
Ah, here we go.
Do you hear Miles right again?
Oh, sorry, wrong one.
You know, we have too many mac and cheese jingles.
The mac and cheese meme has really gotten out of hand for us.
Living the mac and cheese life.
Mac and cheese by Ayn Rand.
Yay!
You've got karma.
Every time I open the Twitter, there's another mac and cheese story.
Steven Berkowitz probably has a few.
He's Pembroke, Pines, Florida, 23456.
Hey guys, Steven in South Florida again.
The company, this completes my knighthood.
Is that on the list?
Yeah, I guess so.
I think so, yep.
C attached.
Just in time for my 35th birthday, I guess he's on that list too, on the 14th.
Please title me Sir Big Pharma as ideal drugs for a living.
Right on.
Legal drugs.
Good work.
Yes, apparently.
Diluted.
I don't know what that drug is.
I don't know how to pronounce it.
Dilaudid?
Yeah, maybe.
Oh, so he wants Dilaudid and Dramamine to be on the roundtable offerings.
I guess it is Dilaudid?
You know, I... I hate to pronounce it wrong in the ceremony.
Well, you...
I just...
I lauded.
I'll just mumble.
Watch it.
We can look it up.
I'll just mumble.
Don't worry about it.
Andromamine.
I'll just mumble.
That should be a hit.
Just asking for a magical, shape-shifting Jew at the end.
In other words, put it on the list for the...
Oh, for the end of show.
The close of the show.
Okay.
And some karma.
Thanks for the hard work on the show.
Okay.
You've got karma.
Let me just put that into the end of show bin.
Perfect.
James Michael DuPont in Ewing, New Jersey.
20684.
This is my humble donation of 20684 to support your great news show.
And then it scrolls off to infinity.
There's no carriage returns on my spreadsheet.
Oh, I have this donation amount is a transformation of key no agenda terms into bitcoins and then into dollars.
See the table at the end and the source code linked.
Okay.
So I have a letter.
I think this is from him.
It's Hacker Mike.
Is this Mike?
Yeah, maybe Michael.
No agenda donation number four.
Table of no agenda terms.
And it's in Hacksource's name.
So it's H4CK3 blah blah blah.
Now, he says, this is my humble donation.
Support your new show.
The donation amount is a...
Okay, I got all that.
Can I have the...
Here's what he wants to play, his jingles.
Okay.
Even though I already gave him his karma, I think.
Okay.
Shut up, slave.
Obama middle class is our new goal.
And juice.
Okay, I think we can do that.
Shut up, slave!
In the end, the folks I hear from in letters or meet when I travel across the country, they aren't asking for much.
They're just looking for a job that covers their bills.
They're looking for a little financial security.
They want to know that if they work hard and live within their means, everything will be all right.
They'll be able to get ahead and give their kids a better life.
That's the dream each of us has for ourselves and our family.
Oh, my gosh.
Can you see that juice?
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs.
You've got karma.
Now, he sent a note in with all these Bitcoin, ASCII to Bitcoin codes, which goes, I mean, I mean, there's just a bunch of numbers.
I'll put this in the show notes.
This is a pretty interesting thing.
Yeah, put it as a link in the show notes and people can do with it as they wish.
Yeah, I'll put it in the today part.
In a Bitcoin donation table.
Yeah, because he provided a handy table.
Yeah, he did the table so you don't have to.
Yeah, thanks.
Okay, great.
Got it.
Got it.
Okay.
Sir Brian Barrow of Royal Wooten.
Oh, no.
Oh, I'm sorry.
No, that's it.
We're done.
That's our first guy for the regular thing.
Just James and Michael Dupont's our last guy.
We're done.
Yeah, so...
We're done.
We're done.
Thank you.
These are...
Ends abruptly.
These are real credits.
Executive producers, associate executive producers, you can put them anywhere.
Credits are recognized.
Your LinkedIn seems to be a good place.
People apparently get more views on their profile.
And also just wear it as a badge of courage because you have helped produce the best podcast in the universe.
And you can also help out by doing something very simple.
It's called propagating the formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out...
We hit people in the mouth.
Whoa!
What was that?
That was strange.
I don't know what happened there.
Hey, citizen.
Shut up, slave.
Shut up, slave.
All right.
I really need to have a conversation.
About what happened in Missouri at the university.
Okay.
There's been a couple people requesting this.
I have...
I will follow up because there was a mirrored situation at Yale, which I think was...
I think the Yale thing came before Missouri.
It might have, but then it got put in the back burner.
I think the Yale thing is more interesting, but I want to hear what you have to say.
I got...
Kind of pushed in the direction of supporting the students based on the conversation that took place on Democracy Now and what side they were going to be on.
Yeah, conversation.
So you're for the students in this conversation?
Yeah, I'm taking the students.
Okay, do you want to talk Yale first then, just to get it out of your system?
The Yale thing is...
I have one clip.
You can figure out the style of the clip.
Yale, I thought, was an interesting mirror because it wasn't...
It didn't draw as much sympathy, but Yale and hilarity ensues.
If you could explain what the letter was that his wife sent out about Halloween costumes.
Yeah, absolutely.
So the Intercultural Affairs Council, which is a body of various administrators at Yale, sent out an email.
A couple of days before, um, saying, you know, please do not be culturally appropriative for Halloween.
Respect other people's traditions.
Um, do not wear anything that is not your own culture.
Um, pretty simple and, um, pretty polite, to be honest.
And, um, a couple of days after that, um, the associate master of Solomon College, Nicholas Christakis' wife, Erica Christakis, sent out an email to Yaley, yeah.
...of her residential college basically saying, none of that matters.
Do whatever you want.
The university is trying to control you.
They're trying to tell you what to do.
If you want to be culturally appropriative, it's okay if you really...
Appropriative?
Yes.
It's a new word.
This is why I like this clip.
Culturally appropriative.
This introduces a new term to me.
I've never heard it.
Culturally appropriative.
Yeah, you know what that means.
Yeah, it's kind of like politically correctively.
Culturally...
No, it doesn't...
No, that's just the opposite.
Let me listen again.
Appropriative.
That is a word.
Culturally appropriative, meaning you, whitey, have put on blackface.
Or you, whitey, have put a sombrero on your head for trick-or-treating.
Now, I need to say something about that real quick before we continue with the clip.
Um...
Dressing up like a mariachi is not a slam against anybody.
It's culturally appropriative.
It may not be a slam, but it's beside the point.
Because it's a costume.
The mariachi guys don't walk around the street wearing mariachi clothing.
It's a costume.
It's their culture.
It's not your culture, Whitey.
It's not your culture.
Thank you.
Keep going.
Culturally appropriative...
Yeah.
Appropriative.
Man, that's a great word.
Do whatever you want.
The university is trying to control you.
They're trying to tell you what to do.
If you want to be culturally appropriative, it's okay if you really like it.
You can do whatever.
Students were outraged.
It was basically an outright...
You know, completely ignoring the students in her college and also in the university who find these issues to be not just, you know, discomforting and upsetting but really deeply harmful.
Harmful!
Oh, deeply harmful.
Actually creating space for violence to happen on campus.
And in particular, the advice that she gave was to either look away or to engage in dialogue with someone who might be wearing something culturally appropriative.
She says it again, culturally appropriative.
You missed it first time, too.
I think a third or fourth time.
It's dynamite.
They did try to engage with people.
They were harassed.
They were mocked.
They were physically intimidated.
And so it really did create a completely unsafe atmosphere.
And then what happened this weekend with the confrontation of hundreds of African-American students on campus who were questioning the first African-American dean, Dean Holloway, who used to be the master of one of the residents.
Even the word master has come up now as a question of why the heads of these residents are called masters.
Trigger warning!
Trigger warning!
Masters.
Yeah!
Good one, Democracy Now!
War and Peace, warandpriestreport.org.
I'm Amy Goodman.
Masters.
Bah!
The masters are what they were traditionally called, the guys who ran the various residences, and there's just a term that goes back to whatever, masters.
And she's apparently now, yeah, they've gone so, they've gone so PC that they can't use the word masters.
Ha ha!
I have a degree.
You can't say master's degree?
This is what I think this is going to lead to.
You can't get a master's of arts anymore.
You can't get an MA or an MS. What should we suggest as an alternative title, master's of arts?
Uh...
How about Massa of Arts?
That would be better.
Massa.
I got a Massa of Arts.
Now, the definition of appropriative is of or relating to or given to the act of taking for yourself.
I will bet you...
Our typical 50 cents, because, you know, it used to be a dollar, but, you know, hard time.
50 cents.
That this girl listens to Drake and Jay-Z and Beyonce and that she is appropriative of the black culture.
She's white, isn't she?
No.
God damn it.
She's a mulatto.
No, that's good enough.
I think she defines herself as black.
Because you have to go off to that, too, then.
Because ever since the music business figured out that selling black music to 15-year-old white girls is a goldmine and declining and diminishing, then you need to stop that because it's appropriative of black culture.
That's next.
It has to be next.
Oh, you're dancing to black music, huh?
Well, I'm looking at this appropriative thing a little differently.
The more I listen to this crap...
I like it.
I like it, John.
I like it.
I like it a lot.
Now, here's what I'm thinking.
The idea is to promote divisiveness.
Because if you can't wear a Mexican sombrero on Halloween because it's culturally appropriative, if you're an immigrant or you're a Mexican, let's say, or a black, you can't really try to get a job in a white office building.
Some corporation was started by an old white guy.
Because this would be culturally appropriative of the whites.
There's a white culture, so you don't want to do that.
What is white culture?
This is the same crap that the blacks have been fed with the, oh, you're just a house nigger, which is a term they use in the sociology classes.
Yeah.
They do everything they can.
They, who they are, I can't say anybody in particular, but the culture drags, will not let anyone get into the white culture.
And then the white culture kind of It keeps them away too.
I mean, the whole thing is to keep everybody, instead of being the one nation we're supposed to be, you have a bunch of subgroups that can't even wear a sombrero.
I mean, come on.
This is where it's headed.
I have some thoughts, very particular thoughts on this, but let's transition now.
This is good.
Let's transition now to Mizzou.
Mizzou.
University of Missouri.
And this made the rounds everywhere.
It was on television everywhere.
Just in case you hadn't heard it, this is an assistant visiting professor of media.
And I think journalism, but media for sure.
And the students created a safe space on public ground by putting signs in the ground that said safe space.
By itself needs discussion.
So it's a safe pit space.
And there was one student journalist who they were not letting into the safe space, even though he has every right to be there.
And it was disturbing what the assistant professor of media did and said.
Hi, media.
Can I talk to you?
No, you need to get out.
You need to get out.
No, I don't.
You need to get out.
She pushes the camera.
All right.
Hey, who wants to help me get this reporter out of here?
I need I love that.
I need some muscle over here.
Now, CBS, here's how they reported this.
The Washington Post reports on a University of Missouri professor who tried to block reporters from covering an anti-racism protest on campus.
Melissa Click is an assistant professor of mass media at Mizzou.
She and other students were telling the media, including a photographer who confronted her to back off.
Hi, Mayday.
Can I talk to you?
No, you need to get out.
Now, listen.
You need to get out.
No, I don't.
You need to get out.
I actually don't.
All right.
Hey, who wants to help me get this reporter out of here?
I need some...
The photographer explained he had the right to...
Interesting.
They potted down the part where she says, I need some muscle over here.
They removed it.
Yes, they removed it.
Listen again.
Yeah, I heard it first time.
Yeah.
The photographer...
Very good.
Then, CarolCNN, Facebook.com slash CarolCNN.
That woman calling for muscle is Assistant Professor Melissa Click at the University's Communication School.
I love this, that her name is Click, and she's in media.
Ms.
Click!
She pushes the student photographer, covers his lens, and mocks him.
This is public property.
The mocking is funny.
Listen to this.
This is Obama-bot, nutjob, crazy mocking, which happens all the time.
That person emails us sometimes.
When I'm a communication faculty, I don't get that argument.
But you need to go.
Directing students to form a human chain to block the journalists from doing their job.
Don't let those reporters in.
If you've got it...
Oh, he's a good one.
Good one.
Good job.
Good job.
We went to Professor Click's office to ask, why would a mass media communications instructor want to stop the media?
She wasn't there, but this flyer expresses her opinion about traditional media.
The communication school says it can't comment about personnel, but says intimidation is never an acceptable form of communication.
Melissa Click, by the way, did release a written apology saying, quote, I regret the language and strategies I used and sincerely apologize to the MU campus community and journalists at large for my behavior.
Being an a-hole is now a strategy.
The Missouri University sent an email out to everybody.
I have a copy here.
Subject reporting hateful and or hurtful speech.
This is sent to all students and faculty.
To continue to ensure that the University of Missouri campus remains safe, the MU Police Department, MUPD, is asking individuals who witness incidents of hateful and or hurtful speech or actions to call the police immediately and And they have the phone number.
Give the communications operator a summary of the incident, including location.
Provide a detailed description of the individuals involved.
Provide a license plate and vehicle descriptions if appropriate.
If possible, and it can be done safely, take a photo of the individuals with your cell phone.
Delays, including posting information to social media, can often reduce the chances of identifying the responsible party.
So you've got to post it right away.
While cases of hateful and hurtful speech are not crimes, if the individual or individuals identified are students, MU's Office of Student Conduct can take disciplinary action.
So that's for hate speech.
Hateful, not even hate speech, hateful and or hurtful speech, which is, last time I checked, still speech and has some protections.
Some issues with this.
First of all, the way I understand how it went down is the, I think it was the president of the student body, someone, some drunk white student drove by and shouted racial slurs.
So it was a drunk a-hole.
Then there was, as a part of the story which has kind of faded away now, was this poop swastika.
But I have yet to see any evidence of the poop swastika.
There is no photographic evidence.
The person who reported it said he read about it on a flyer.
There's no photos.
There's nothing.
So that had to be dropped because that doesn't seem to be true.
And, you know, poop swastika.
Here's the way I'm seeing this story, being on the side of the students.
And if you look into it, the University of Missouri is one of the last major land-grant Universities in the country to accept blacks in the school.
Can we stop for a second before you get into that?
Okay.
The protesters during the initial homecoming parade where we had a huge blow up because the president of the university would not get out of his car.
They were standing in front of them.
They were blocking him from driving.
He hit me with the car.
I watched the video.
The car inches up and it touches the guy's legs.
It wasn't like he hit him with anything.
But they were all wearing...
shirts did you see the t-shirts yeah 1839 was built on my back and there's an l in there built on my black yeah uh and this refers to it's actually quite interesting if you go back to 1839 is when the university was started and it was started uh they claim the claim is it was started with money that was achieved through sale of slaves
and in 2008 there was um an alum of the university who felt bad that this had taken place and he started an endowment not a huge one 25 thousand dollars started an endowment but specifically said that this was because his uh ancestors his great-great-grandfather, had sold slaves as a part of a...
Actually, he had sold Negroes, is what the exact bill of sale was titled.
And this thing really started in 2008.
Looking, this has been reported widely, if you look at the makeup of the state, 8% is black.
I think it's 79 or 80% is white.
The school is overrepresented, if you go by those norms, at 10% black and 73% white.
And the only thing that bothered me about this was the number one demand of the concerned student 1950 group that the president of the college admit his white male privilege.
That's where...
Right, yeah.
Okay, you're still on the side of the students, because I want to talk about this.
Yes, because what you're doing is the same thing the other side was doing, which was, is this really the demand?
Is this a good example?
Let's just take this...
There was a lot of different groups involved in this.
And let's first look at the history of the school.
It's extremely racist.
The N-word used freely, which is what that earlier thing you were talking about.
And then the black fraternity that was on campus, I guess just within recent few months ago or earlier in the year, was...
Covered and pelted with cotton balls to pretty much insult the blacks inside as though they're all cotton pickers.
And it was just this very slow buildup of tolerance for some of these, you know, the one guy, the drunken guy driving by yelling epithets is apparently the tip of the iceberg.
I'm sure it is.
I'm sure it is.
In Missouri.
I'm sure it is.
And by the way, Missouri is also where Ferguson is and Missouri is the target state right now.
It's about 100 miles away.
It's still the same state.
Mm-hmm.
And Missouri is kind of, and people I've ever known from Missouri, there's kind of a very funky kind of racist operation in the whole state.
I'm not calling everyone from Missouri racist, but we don't get a lot of donations from Missouri, if you haven't noticed.
And we do say Missouri.
But there's a lot of that.
It was just a very tense moment.
And it was pretty much the football team when they decided to say, we're not going to play any more games until you straighten this out and get rid of it.
Well, but what was underreported was a large number of players on the team were pissed off about it, didn't like that they were going to have to do this.
Well, there's always going to be.
No one's in 100% agreement on this.
These are minor points.
Sure.
You have a racist atmosphere.
I'm not disagreeing with that.
That needed something to be done.
I'm not disagreeing with that.
And I think the thing to be noted is that whether it was the pressure from the students or whether the students had any effect...
Which I would actually say probably not as much as the football team, because the football team would have to pay $1 million to the team that was supposed to come in and play that weekend.
You're making my point for me.
So this is a money deal.
Okay.
Now, one more clip, and then I need to talk about something.
Because I'm not against the students, except for one.
There is an exception.
First, here's Ben Carson, who's black, and his opinion.
It's part of the...
The problem that's going on in our country right now, we have people who get in their respective corners and demonize each other, but there's no conversation.
And of course, if you ask people to put on the record what their gripes are and what their solutions are, Then perhaps they can see that maybe they're not so far apart and they can come up with some reasonable solutions.
But, you know, this is just raw emotion and people being manipulated, I think, in many of these cases by outside forces who wish to create disturbances.
Very possible.
And there's nothing wrong with that.
No, but here's my problem.
And this goes back to last week.
When, or in the week, when, no, last week, when I had the Obama bot dinner.
And I was accused of ignoring my white privilege.
And I had a very strong reaction to this.
You know me.
I know, and that's one of your pet peeves.
That is your recurrent, au courant pet peeve.
Well, yes.
And it will set you off.
Well, no, it won't set me off anymore because I took this to my therapy yesterday.
Oh, a new segment.
Yes, yes.
So I went to see my therapist in San Antonio.
We need a jingle.
I don't have a jingle.
No, we need one.
It should be something like Adam's Nuts or something.
Adam's Nuts.
Here he is.
We're not going to say stuff like that.
No.
But I was so, because I'm, you know, people say horrible things to me all the time, for years.
Like what?
How about when I was seven years old, the end of the Vietnam War, I was in the Netherlands growing up, and the kids would walk around and go, Fuck you, American!
Fuck you, Yankee!
Fuck go home!
Fuck you!
So I was...
Traumatized.
Yes!
I'm like, wait a minute, I'm from America.
What is this place?
They hated Americans in the early 70s.
Hated them with a passion.
So when...
I wanted to figure out why I had...
Because I don't have these reactions.
I'm...
Healthy enough to understand that people project all the time, and I just don't have responses.
But this really ticked me off.
And so the whole two hours, I worked on figuring out why I was so upset about it.
Two hours?
Yeah, two-hour session.
Oh, yeah.
No wonder you're broke.
It's important.
I recommend some therapy for everybody.
It's not bad.
And my therapist, Sandy, my therapist, was very, very helpful.
And she took me down a path that was, I thought, interesting enough to bring up on the show.
And it was really about the term white privilege, or really privilege.
Because what you are doing when you say to someone you have white privilege, is you are shaming them.
You are shaming them into something they can do nothing about.
It is an aggressive, low-life act To do that.
And it comes mainly from people who are in a place of narcissism.
And the narcissism really comes from two directions.
One is extremely entitled.
Extremely entitled people are very narcissistic.
Or people who have such a gaping hole in their soul that they are just complete a-holes.
It is also factually incorrect.
And so this is why this term, white privilege, has to be changed.
I do not, it is not a privilege.
So I'll just take the example that was thrown at me.
You have white privilege.
What the hell does that mean?
Well, driving while black.
And so the concept is that I have some privilege because I'm not black and I don't have to take off a skin because I'm white, that I don't get pulled over.
That would be the privilege, if you look at the definition of privilege.
I don't have that privilege.
I may not get pulled over as often as a black person or ever, but it's not guaranteed not to happen.
No.
It's a benefit of being white.
Just like there's a benefit to being black.
If you look at currently affirmative action, there's still a lot of it happening.
It's not a privilege, it's a benefit.
You're not guaranteed to get into college or get a job because you're black, but right now there's a benefit in the world.
This is what is okay to say.
Shaming people, which I will say comes directly from President Obama, who was the first one to come out and say, we're going to name and shame people.
Name and shame Republicans.
Name and shame companies.
It is a horrible, narcissistic, asshole thing to do.
And you can say white benefit.
I'm okay with that.
But saying privilege is really...
Really incorrect, and it is aggressive, and I don't care how bad it is in Missouri, two wrongs don't make a right.
You cannot use this meme.
And for white people to use it, like the clearly over-entitled, empty-soul people at the Obama-bot dinner, is wrong.
It's a good one.
You can give yourself the, you can play the jingle.
I'll play this one for you.
White benefit, yes.
White privilege, no.
F you.
It's bullshit.
And I feel much better.
I don't know how many...
The term probably came up because Amy Goodman is one of those promoters of it.
But when I heard the kind of the trenches stories, I felt that they want to get the guy fired, the guy running the place.
Okay, they got him fired and that's over, supposedly.
But talking about the narcissist thing, when they did show some clips of some of these spokes Folks for the 1950 thing.
I don't know.
There's a bunch of groups involved in this deal.
Can I just say one more thing about driving?
If you're a hot woman and you're white, probably if you're black, but if you're white, you're going to get pulled over a lot.
Okay?
For different reasons, they may not, you know, if you're black, you could feel threatened, you could get your ass kicked, but you know what?
Beautiful women who are driving around, cops pull them over all the time and harass them sexually.
Yes.
So there's benefits and there's detractors.
It's a fact of life.
Not a privilege.
No, it's not a privilege.
Thank you.
It's not a privilege.
Well, I'd like to, now that you bring this up, and I think your logic is impeccable, I would like to, well, kind of impeccable, I would like to now get to the bottom of this.
Yeah.
Okay, let's do it.
I'd like to get to the bottom of this.
Who started this meme?
I mean, we started discussing it on the show, but we never thought about it being so important because we're...
It's nothing that our circles ever bring up or discuss, but it's becoming...
It's overcooked.
It's really...
You're right.
It's showing up too much, and now Whitey is doing it.
Yeah.
Well, it's worth it.
It is shaming...
White males, specifically.
I can't change that I'm a man.
Older white males.
Oh yeah.
So that would put me in the target.
I'd be a target.
I'm just saying that shaming is unacceptable in society.
Everyone talks slut shaming.
It's the same thing.
You can't help it that you're gay, so you have gay privilege.
Boy, you have gay disadvantage.
You can't, these things, they're just, it's not okay to say.
Where did it come from?
I don't know who started it, John, but it's evil.
It's important.
It is, but it's an evil term.
I'm okay with white benefit.
Hey, you know what?
Eddie Murphy and Chris Rock made a huge, have huge careers based on something they are allowed to do.
I'm not going to call it a privilege.
I'm going to call it a benefit.
They can, you know, say nigger.
They can make jokes about, oh, I'm talking I'm a crazy white guy.
I can't do that because I'm white.
Is it a black privilege?
No.
But is it a benefit?
Yeah.
Congratulations.
We're different.
It works that way.
All right.
Since you mentioned in this last piece, as we move on, Twitter.
Now, we've talked about this before, which is the millennials have a great, difficult time of being confrontational.
I'm actually of the opinion that they can't even ask for help if they're drowning.
I need a safe space!
I'm drowning!
I just do not understand.
And I've got millennials all around me, and they tell me this stuff.
I mean, that's where I get a lot of material.
They don't explain it.
And it's like, there was a piece, I didn't clip it, but I'll put it on the next show, which is about all the millennials that still live at home, which has some element of this.
But here's the one that really got me.
We can talk about it or not talk about it, but this is the Screwball Twitter American Airlines clip.
Thank you, and one more aviation headline tonight.
A mid-air scare for passengers on a flight from Chattanooga making an emergency landing in Huntsville, Alabama.
A passenger tweeting this video while on board.
That's fuel leaking from a loose fuel cap.
That was the message.
American Airlines responding to his tweet asking him, are you on the plane?
Let the crew know.
The power of social media, they landed.
Passengers later booking flights on a different plane to Dallas.
Okay.
Now here's the way, they didn't bring this up, of course, they don't talk about sociology or anything, but here's the way I heard the story.
A guy sitting at the window, a millennial, no doubt about it, because who else would do a live feed of a, you know, or take a movie and then tweet it?
I don't know, I guess it was Wi-Fi on the plane, I'm assuming.
So he's shooting this thing and then he tweets, look at this, this is so funny.
And the guy said, you on the plane?
Yeah.
Go tell somebody this is going on.
Oh, I forgot.
Does this distress anybody?
It distresses the hell out of me.
I'm now thinking that if you're on a plane full of millennials and the damn thing was on fire, they wouldn't say anything.
They wouldn't say anything.
Let me just update my status.
Burning and dying.
Do you find this disturbing?
I thought that was a very disturbing story.
Yes, but I find it par for the course.
It's horrible.
We're turning out morons.
And all of this, it is coddling.
It's my generation, I think, that is...
I've done it.
Hopefully it's not as bad as the thing leaking fuel is going to go down in flames because this idiot won't tell you.
Hey, let me update my status.
That's pretty good.
But I tweeted it.
I tweeted it.
I mean, is this unbelievable?
Yeah.
Well, unfortunately, it's highly believable.
That's the crazy part.
I'm glad somebody at the American Airlines was using company time to follow the tweets.
Man.
Anyway.
Yeah.
Problematic.
I'll say.
What do I have here?
Oh, yes.
Let's talk about the plane, the Russian Metrojet.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, because I've been...
Something's been bothering me about this.
I think we're good to go.
You know, it's kind of an open source project where people have these, you know, they get the USB stick, they create an SDR, they jack it up to different frequencies, and then they can receive these broadcasts from most airliners with this telemetry data.
And to see the plane then stop its forward, when they were 20,000 feet, The forward speed was down to 62 knots, and the descent rate of feet per minute was 6,582, which is around 65-70 miles an hour.
Now, this could all be incorrect data.
This is the point I'm making about that.
But when you look at the pictures, I don't understand how an aircraft can come down from, you know, pretty much straight down.
But I guess it was floating down because it was only doing about 70 miles an hour coming down.
I don't understand that.
I think the rate of descent, especially if it broke up, should have been much higher, much faster.
But we don't know about this data.
And then if you look at the crash site, you know, it's almost like the World Trade Center, which...
We have this perfect outline of a plane on the ground.
Yeah, it's like a pan just came down pancake flat.
Yes, and I'm looking at every picture, and there's obvious things missing, but also the ground around this plane is filled with tire tracks of heavy machinery.
There's no impact.
There's no, you know, bounce.
There's nothing.
It's just all these tracks.
And it looks like, I'm not saying that the plane didn't go down, that wasn't eliminated.
I'm not saying people didn't die.
I don't see a single body.
All I see is, it's different from every other crash we've seen.
We see the suitcases stacked up with barbed wire around it for some reason, so the crime scene has been disturbed.
No passports!
Hey man, what happened to the passports?
We always show passports strewn about on the ground and none of that.
So I'm disturbed by the...
I think I did see one passport.
Okay.
Well, I'm disturbed by the circumstantial evidence of this.
And I'm not...
If it were intended to be used for something, then, well, here's our friend, my friend, Congressman McCall, here in Texas, who is just...
I'm going to see this guy one day, and I'm going to give him a piece of my mind, because we sometimes bump into each other.
I'm hopeful I get to bump into him.
Chairman, what's the latest intel on the downing of that Russian airliner?
I love how the question is, give me the intel, and guess what?
The guy gives him the intel.
What kind of Homeland Security Commission guy is this who's just, oh, you want the intel?
Sure, I'll give it to you.
No problem.
Here it is.
Here's the intel.
Chairman, what's the latest intel on the downing of that Russian airliner?
Well, I think the latest evidence we have is the black box recording itself, which indicates that there was an explosion on the aircraft.
When you couple that with the satellite technology, this flash of heat on the airplane.
Which we have not seen.
Have you seen satellite technology?
Have you seen any satellite images?
I've heard it.
I haven't seen it.
The fact that ISIS has declared war on Russia.
This was a Russian plane headed for Russia.
In addition to the U.S. and U.K. intelligence that we've received, I think all indicators are pointing to the fact that this was ISIS putting a bomb on an airplane.
So, one week after this terrible incident, what do you think is the likelihood that it was a bomb, that it was a terror attack?
What do you think, John?
What's the likelihood?
Based upon a tenth of a second of audio?
A hundred percent.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no!
Well, you know, I have a high degree of confidence that it was.
It's been my get all along.
As we've looked at the facts, the reason...
Did he say it's been my get?
Get, guess.
Oh, guess.
I thought it was...
No, I don't think he said guess.
Well, go back.
All along.
Let's listen to it again.
It's been my gut all along.
My gut?
What is it, like an interview?
My gut.
That's strange.
As we've looked at the facts, the region itself, the fact that they want to hit the Russians.
And I must say, Chris, this is a new chapter for ISIS. Typically, we looked at Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula as the sort of premier bomb maker, if you will, hitting the aviation sector.
Maybe he said gut.
Maybe he said gut.
They're crown jewel.
But now you're looking at ISIS now putting bombs on airplanes, which concerns me.
You see how he did that?
You see how he went to, oh, it's ICE, not Al-Qaeda now.
It's ISIS. And I feel my gut tells me so.
Which concerns me greatly, not just for Russian airlines, Chris, but quite frankly.
So he's going from all sources, suppositions, a gut check, to now it's absolutely true that ISIS is putting bombs on airplanes.
And what does that mean if they're putting them on Russian airplanes?
What's next?
Oh, yeah.
But now you're looking at ISIS now putting bombs on airplanes, which concerns me greatly, not just for Russian airlines, Chris, but quite frankly, American-bound flights into the United States.
Clamp down!
Yeah!
Yeah, oh, what a stooge that guy is.
Actually, I think he's just dumb.
I think he's dumb.
He just believes it.
He sounds kind of dumb.
Yeah.
It's a dumb sound.
But I have problems with this.
Looking at it again, and just reviewing the photographic, let's call it evidence for whatever.
None of it's evidence.
None of it's evidence.
I'd love to see the...
There's a bunch of heavy equipment around.
You could push a bunch of junk onto this area, you know, wreckage of whatever sort, or take a plane that's in scrap.
Yes, it looks like scrap.
There's a lot of graveyards around the country.
I went over to one that was outside of Las Vegas, and they have every imaginable plane in just a holding.
They take the engines out.
Well, notice the only identifiable piece was a tail section, which has no burn marks, has no visible explosive residue evidence, but it does say Metrojet A321. So you think it's a possibility that you would...
And you could do this.
If you were going to do this, especially in the...
This is the middle of nowhere.
Yeah.
And we have a base not too far from it.
You could...
Right.
Well, that's still...
It's 100 kilometers.
It could be done by us.
But so you'd push this plane...
Out to the middle of nowhere, and then you could smash it up and flatten it, do whatever you have to do.
You could do this over a period of months.
Yeah, no one's going to see you doing that.
Right, because you're in the middle of nowhere in the Sinai Desert.
So I have no further explanation, but just looking at it from almost a logical point of view...
Who would be the culprit?
Well, it depends on what Russia's going to do.
I mean, it seems that, well, the president came out very early on the next day.
You've got McCall.
This is from Monday.
This is all very early on.
Oh, ISIS. Oh, it's ISIS. So whether the United States is taking this as an opportunity to blame ISIS, whether it's the Russians who need this to say, well, we need to go after something because...
Maybe Russia will come out and say, hey, turns out it wasn't ISIS. Turns out it was the moderates.
I mean, whatever the final decision is, and it looks like the United States is pushing very hard right now to say it was ISIS. Russia has not really come out and said, we think it was X, Y, or Z. So maybe we're doing that out of a defensive measure.
This could be a long game.
Could be a long game.
Yeah, so we don't know.
But if it's Putin, then he needs to show his cards pretty quick because it's going to be off the radar.
Sure.
In the middle of that area, with a U.S. base nearby, I don't see how Putin could pull this off.
It has to be us.
Okay.
It certainly sounds like...
But why?
Well, to prove that it's ISIS, I guess.
But still, who cares?
And then what happened to the plane is the other question.
Was there a plane?
Well...
Maybe you never know.
Maybe Russia's actually working with us.
Yeah.
Who knows?
Remember the open mic where President Obama said, hey, man, wait until I'm re-elected, then I can get more involved with you.
Remember, that's what Obama said to Medvedev with the open mic.
Maybe this is...
I don't know, but that plane crash...
We're never being told the truth about anything anymore.
This is pathetic.
You know, it's almost like...
It's almost like Flight 93.
Remember how that looked?
Yeah.
Where it, you know, there was just a little hole in the ground.
Nothing.
Nothing was left.
Forget the debris that was spread over 14 miles elsewhere.
But, you know, the elites always remind us that things are different than the way they seem.
We'll go back to Donald Rumsfeld talking shortly after 9-11.
Imagine the kind of world we would face.
If the people who bombed the Best Hall in Mosul or the people who did the bombing in Spain or the people who attacked the United States in New York shot down the plane over Pennsylvania and attacked the Pentagon.
Shot down the plane over Pennsylvania?
We thought that it was Let's Roll and it was driven into the ground?
And Bill Clinton just this week did a star talk.
You know what the StarTalks are, don't you?
No, I don't.
Oh, come on.
You don't watch that?
No.
Huh.
It's our buddy.
Who?
Elon!
It's the Grasse Tyson show.
Oh, I know.
Oh, that show's still on?
Oh, yeah.
And he had Bill Clinton on.
And here's what Bill said.
You had to deal with the incoming fire.
When George Bush and Al Gore ran for president, they had three debates.
Nobody said, what are you going to do when the twin trade towers come down and the Pentagon's bombed?
What?
I thought a plane flew into the Pentagon.
The Pentagon's bombed?
The Pentagon was not bombed, Bill.
How could you make this gaffe?
Unless the truth wants to come out.
Truth always wants to come out.
So don't say to me that someone would slip up, because these are slip-ups.
These are actual slip-ups.
Yeah, these are good slip-ups.
Well...
Okay, that was a good piece.
Migrants?
I have.
We're going to do migrants.
Yep.
Let's restate that.
We're not going to do any migrants.
We're going to do migrants.
I decided to...
I got a rundown clip.
Is this another 3x3?
This is a 3x3.
And now it's time for 3x3.
Oh yeah!
Experiment by JCD. Bring it on, baby!
Comparing stories from ABC, CBS, and NBC. Week 37!
The never-ending 3x3.
Alright, the never-ending 3x3.
John C. of Warwick with the 3x3 Report.
Okay, this is the rundown as of yesterday on ABC. They made it as entertaining as possible, if you can call any of it entertaining.
And it just kind of brings people up to speed without really giving us any information at all.
But it's worth listening to, I think.
We turn next to our continuing coverage of the refugee crisis in Europe and tonight the number of people seeking asylum in parts of Europe reaching a new milestone.
One million.
Germany, Sweden and some other countries now beginning to close their doors yet many are still coming risking their lives.
Just today we learned the story of seven children lost as their families were seeking a better life.
ABC's chief foreign correspondent Terry Moran in Greece with the difficult images tonight.
A half-sunken boat off the Turkish coast, its front window broken, the telltale signs of a tragedy.
Fourteen dead and seven of them children.
The refugee crisis here is actually getting worse.
And a milestone today.
One million people have now sought asylum in Europe on a pace to double last year.
Every day brings more heart-rending scenes.
Last month, 18-month-old Mohamed Hassan pulled from the sea after the boat he was on capsized.
He's alive, the fishermen shout.
Quick, get the water out of his mouth.
They saved his life.
Today, the human tide kept rolling ashore here on Lesbon and everywhere the evidence of their exit.
All along this coastline where the boats come ashore, you can see several of these huge piles, thousands of life preservers, and every single one of them represents an individual journey of hope and desperation.
And with every landing, the tears of relief, the joy, the determination to go on.
Terry Moran, ABC News, Lesbos, Greece.
The determination to go on.
Well...
Now, before, I want to just mention something here.
We said desperation held up an inner tube.
But there are these huge piles, he showed, of these life preservers.
Yeah, that are left on the beach.
Cheesy ones.
I just don't understand why some entrepreneur...
This is a little off-topic.
Well, if some entrepreneur hasn't just piled these things into some tug or something and just gone back and resold them for like two bucks a pop.
Recycle that stuff, yeah.
We're talking about thousands and thousands and thousands.
On every trip, he could probably make a buck.
John, I think we could raise VC money for this project.
Easily.
Well, speaking of Greece...
I need to go for an elevator pitch with the angels nearby.
I got this idea, right?
It's part of the sharing economy, is my idea.
We're going to share life preservers amongst refugees.
Okay, Shark Tank.
Boots on the Ground report from Greece.
Our producers are writing in with lots of information.
Hey, John, Adam, more boots on the ground.
I live in Piraeus, the port of Athens.
Unfortunately, by witness every day, Syrians, Iraqis, and Afghans stranded until they catch the next train from Piraeus to our northern borders with Phryom and not Macedonia.
The men to women ratio is 80 to 20, and the more bright colored of them, the Syrians, seem to be more well off than the darker ones, the Iraqis and the Afghans, with more prevalent Asian facial traits.
What strikes me most is the way they deal with their money.
During their day-long stay on the pavement or inside the train station, the refugees need to have some of their basic needs catered for, like, John, pooping.
Since NGOs visit the islands, they come in, take some selfies, and then go back to restoring social justice in the Great Keyboard Wars.
These people have to visit multiple times a day a kiosk, which in Greece really provides almost everything.
Due to their high numbers, I often have to stand in line before I can begin my daily commute for tickets and money, etc.
Taking multiple glimpses into their wallets, yeah, I know, I'm classy, I was baffled to see that some Syrian wallets were full of 500 euro banknotes.
I can assure you that in Greece we haven't seen one of them for more than a decade, and our banks are still under capital control with a limit of 420 euros.
By the way, I didn't know that.
That's pretty funny.
You got a 420 in Greece.
Good on you.
I'm not sure if the notes are authentic or counterfeit, but one thing is sure.
The refugees have no idea of the monetary value they are carrying.
The Greek kiosk owners have seen through this...
And are the crookedest of them all, and they give them less change without the Syrians even noticing and just putting in a hurry another bunch of banknotes back into their wallets.
How are we to explain this?
Are they fake, so they just go on spending them aimlessly?
Are they provided by an unknown party some form of assistance whose value remains unknown to them, but maybe because they don't bother into converting these purple banknotes into Syrian pounds?
Were they my hard-earned and converted pounds?
Was it after having sold to my house and my livestock back in Syria?
I would not be so indifferent.
I would check every note and every cent as I would get changed in a foreign country, Giannis says.
So that is indeed strange.
500 euro banknotes are not very available in Europe.
Boots on the ground from Finland.
Adam and John.
This is from Rauli.
Just heard your Sunday show.
Here's a report from Sweden.
It's really bad here.
It was just reported that Sweden is going to start the border checks again into the southern border of Denmark.
I hope it will also ease the travelers to Finland, since a big portion of refugees to Finland have come through Sweden to the middle of Finland to Tornio.
Also, the story where they travel from Russia to Norway is true.
Winter hopefully eases this wave of refugees.
For once, I hope for a really cold winter.
In Finland, we have the far right party in our cabinet, known as the True Finns, but it really hasn't been able to do anything.
I'm all for getting refugees here, but it seems that at least a big portion of refugees are coming from Iraq, Albania, etc., and are just after the social benefits.
This has been validated in many interviews with the refugees.
Thank you for your excellent show this year.
I made a small contribution again to you.
Thank you very much.
Here is, and this is a new twist, and I had to look into the legislation.
This is what is now happening because we have rules for asylum and migration in the European Union, and it's called the Dublin Accord.
In fact, it's the Dublin Three.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel is coming under increasing domestic political pressure to find a lasting solution to the refugee crisis, which will see at least 800,000 people arrive in Germany by the end of the year.
On Tuesday, it emerged that Berlin had reintroduced the Dublin Three Agreement, which states that each individual must apply for asylum in the country in which they first enter Europe.
The numbers, especially of Syrians, has risen to such an extent that no one could have seen in October.
Circumstances have forced us to make adjustments.
As well as sniping from within her own party, the right has mobilized against Merkel's refugee policy, and the extreme right continue to cast a menacing shadow and attack refugee shelters.
So this is a Hail Mary by Merkel.
Saying, hey, you know, we have rules for this.
This is Dublin 3, which I read through Dublin 3.
Man, no one can understand this document.
It's like, huh?
It's like, well, if the refugees this and came from there, but they put a foot there.
It's like no one understands it, but what Germany is doing is they, where'd you come in?
Go back there.
Which, of course, these countries are completely unprepared for.
No one's documented that's coming through.
So this is Germany starting to close it down because of a lot of strife happening internally.
A lot of Germans are getting really upset, knowing now that by 2025, they think there'll be 10 million refugees slash migrants in Germany alone.
That's a pretty hefty total.
And another open mic incident happened with Angela Merkel.
Speaking to Mark Zuckerberg.
Because of course, you know, the guy has to be in political circles.
Makes nothing but sense.
Well, the German press is describing it as a table microphone.
And what the table microphone picked up was Merkel sort of muffedly asking a question to Zuckerberg.
And then you hear Zuckerberg, and it's on this issue of what Facebook is going to do about monitoring, policing, racist, xenophobic comments about refugees here in Germany.
It's a big issue.
We hear Zuckerberg's response pretty clearly on the tape, or at least people who are listening, it did.
He said, we need to do some work.
And then, Guy, there's the Merkel follow-up.
She basically asked the same question again and says, but you're working on this.
And Zuckerberg can only say yes.
Look, I know there's a humorous aspect whenever private conversations are picked up on public microphones, but Germany is taking this issue very seriously.
Seriously, it gets the core of what they're trying to do, house, potentially find jobs for these incoming immigrants, incoming refugees.
And there are, have been, some ugly attacks, some racist attacks, some arson attacks on refugee housing.
What the justice minister here at the end of last month did was write Facebook and say they need to urgently review their policies.
It really gets sort of this difference between what tech companies think they're allowed to do and what the German state sometimes demanded of them.
Heiko Moss, the justice minister, said that they need to urgently review.
He said they, then he had a meeting here in mid-September with Facebook executives.
Their basic point is, if Facebook polices nude photos, right, then why can't they police racist or xenophobic comics?
That's the line from the German government.
They're concerned about it and they want more cooperation from big tech companies like Facebook.
Shut up, slave!
That's right.
Yeah, you'll be censored.
Yeah, cut out by the Facebook.
This is how it works.
The locals also took a trip down to Africa to have a big meeting.
And that's my next clip.
This is the real problem.
EU and African leaders enter the second day of a summit to discuss the migrant crisis in the Maltese capital, Valletta.
It's nothing like going to Malta, by the way.
If you just want to have a little jaunt, you know, have a meeting...
Malta is fantastic.
Have you seen these pictures of all these elites?
They do the big group photo.
Oh, a lot of them live there.
Yeah, for tax reasons.
The European plan is to donate billions of euros to ease the security and economic pressures that force people to seek sanctuary in richer nations.
Let me just get this straight.
So the EU is sending 7 to 8 billion euros to Turkey for helping them out with the migrants.
And now there's going to be billions going to African nations to stop them from coming.
Europe, are you insane?
This is insanity!
This is some of the elements within Europe for the crisis.
The problem that we are facing today is in part because some countries in Europe have taken...
A fortress approach.
There's no part of the world that can be a fortress.
We should be open to legal migration.
As talks continue, Sweden and Slovenia become the latest EU nations to tighten borders.
With little progress made on returning failed asylum seekers to Africa, the EU is still struggling for a coherent strategy to this migration crisis.
Indeed, as the bloc seeks help from African nations as well as Turkey, it seems the only strategy that Europe has is to make it somebody else's problem.
Meanwhile, pepper spray is sold out in Germany.
Is it?
Yep.
As frightened Germans buy protection against refugees.
Have you seen that video?
There's a video called...
It's a compilation video, and it is edited specifically to look really horrible.
But it's called With Open Gates.
It's in the show notes under the...
The video clips doc section, you know, it's like 15 minutes long.
And it shows you the violence and the thievery and the thuggery that is going on in Europe with these migrants, which you just don't see very much of in the mainstream media.
Because, of course, if you're going to censor or ask Facebook to be censored, when a government does it, then it is censorship.
So when Angela Merkel says you've got to do this, that's censorship.
Not if Facebook just decides it because they don't like it.
With open gates, or just search for it and you can see the video, it really is jarring.
And take it with 50% grain of salt, like, meh, sure, it's edited in a cool way with ominous music, but you have to see it to really get a balanced view.
Definitely check it out.
Well, Germany also has another ongoing scandal.
Which is their spying scandal.
There's a moment of irony in this report.
Yes, this is very funny.
That was our political correspondent, Simon Young.
There are fresh allegations today of inappropriate and possibly illegal spying by Germany's intelligence agency, the BND. A German public radio station says the agency targeted a list of individuals and organizations from politicians to companies and even aid groups.
But for many Germans, the worst part of the allegations is that the BND also spied on one of its own diplomats.
That is something that is illegal.
Throughout successive revelations, Germany's intelligence agency, the BND, has always maintained that it never targeted its own citizens.
Should reports that German diplomat Hans-Jörg Haber was spied on prove to be true, the BND scandal would reach another level.
Without having at least informed the Parliament's Intelligence Oversight Committee, this would amount to a deliberate breach of German law.
For many members of the committee, the issue poses some fundamental questions.
Does the work carried out by the Parliamentary Oversight Committee actually make any sense when I have to assume that the people sitting opposite me, who should be briefing me and the entire panel, are not telling the truth?
We're not telling the whole truth, but are actively misleading us instead.
CDU politician Klemens Binninger believes that the task force charged with shining a light on the trigger words used by the BND should continue its work.
Of course, the important questions will be who decided which trigger words would be used back then, how the process works, and who is responsible for all that.
According to media reports, French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius is the latest German ally to find he was spied on by the BND. Spying among friends is unacceptable, as what Angela Merkel said in 2013.
It's crazy.
These trigger words, man.
This thing is nuts.
I don't even know, to be honest about it, one of the reasons I played that, because I know you'd pick up on that, but I don't understand what they're talking about.
In this story, I don't understand what they're talking about.
In this story, I can't tell you, but I can give you some research on millennial trigger words and warnings.
I've requested from my Razorback connection.
Did you know that you can set your Tumblr preferences so that you cannot go to Tumblr sites that have trigger warnings so you won't accidentally hit a trigger warning?
No, I did not know that.
So this is very, this is the millennials.
So all Tumblers who are participating in this bullcrap put trigger warnings on their Tumblr pages.
And if you're logged in into Tumblr and you want to go to one of these places, you get the following.
Everything okay?
If you or someone you know is experiencing any type of crisis, please know that there are people who care about you and are here to help.
Consider chatting confidentially with a volunteer trained in crisis intervention.
It might also be nice to fill your dash, that's the dashboard, with inspirational and supportive posts like Love is Respect, Lifeline, and Half of Us.
Go back.
Wow.
Yeah, this is fantastic.
I'm collecting them.
I'm collecting these trigger warnings.
Well, that's fine, but you've heard this report.
What does this even mean within the context of this report?
It must have something to do with racism.
But what does the government, what does the spy agency have to do with it?
I don't know.
Maybe it's just a hip way of reporting.
Just throw trigger warning in there.
Well, this did come in from DWSO. I'm listening to more of these off-site reports.
That's where I'm getting more international news than usual because they're doing stories that are...
Let's see what I got here.
Well, before we get into thanking some people, I'd like to do a little entremant since we're on trigger warnings.
Target made a big boo-boo.
Big boo-boo.
Oh, Target stepped in at this time.
With a certain portion of the population, I want you to take a look at what they have for their ugly Christmas sweater collection.
Yeah, it's the OCD Obsessive Christmas Disorder, one in a line of ugly sweaters.
But there are people that are really upset with the message of that.
They're making light of obsessive compulsive disorder.
There's some like 2.2 million adults, according to the National Institute of Mental Health.
And they don't believe it's funny or cute.
And it's not just Target.
No, it's not just Target.
It's actually there's some other kind of shirts and merchandise that's available in other stores.
Target, their comment, by the way, they said, we never want to disappoint our guests.
We apologize for any discomfort.
We currently do not have plans to remove this sweater.
Oh boy, the crazy targets.
I'm going to get one.
Get one for me, man.
Pick it up.
So this also means that all those funny jokes that you post on Facebook with the OCD pictures of something OCD, you can't do that anymore because you're making fun of people.
You're violating their safe space.
I'm gonna show my support by donating to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on no agenda in the morning.
Yes, and we do have some people to thank for show.
What is this?
773.
Big Show.
Big Show.
Big Show 773.
Let me get...
Here's the problem.
You know, for some reason on this machine...
What I have to do is make the cursor bigger.
No, you have to fix your monitor.
Thank a few people.
Sir Brian Barrow and Royal Wooten Bassett.
And he becomes...
Wait a minute.
Why does it say Black Knight?
1, 2, 3, 4, 5 is his donation.
Yeah.
Let me read this.
It's my humble donation.
Oh, he becomes a duke.
I got you.
Yeah.
From Black Knight to Sir Brian...
No, he's not...
No, I don't think so.
Read the whole thing.
Didn't Eric put a note in there?
Yeah, it says, From Black Knight, Sir Brian Barrow, Hey, John Adams, sorry for not doting for a while, but picking up where you left off seems I'm a Viscount, no, but will push on to become a duke and finally claim a country protector...
Didn't Eric put a note in there that says he's actually only a baron?
I don't have that note.
Didn't you get the spreadsheet from?
Yeah.
Tell me.
Let me see.
Take a look at it.
Ah, the back office.
Let me see.
Yeah, he's a baron, not a Viscount.
Yep, got it.
Right.
Okay.
But as a baron, we thank you.
Go to Dvorak.org slash peerage.
To check on your status in terms of where do you get to these levels.
So he'd be a baron, but he wants to be in some area.
He wants to be the baron or something.
I don't think I have...
Let me see.
Do we have...
No, I don't have a protectorate.
Well, somebody send something in.
We'll get it to him.
He's a black knight, so he's always going to be screwed.
It's a blessing and a curse.
It's a blessing and a curse.
You get to get your name mentioned more, but it doesn't really...
Nothing you really want.
No, not really.
Okay.
Come on.
Okay.
You're going to have to just hold a second.
I don't know what is wrong.
You want me to read the next one?
I can read the next one while you're working on that.
We have Alan Hawes from Windsor in the United Kingdom.
Hey, gents.
Apologies for the douchebaggery.
If you feel I'm worthy, could I get a dedouching?
Please continue the great analysis.
Yes, we'll do that at the end of the segment.
That is 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 as well.
Matthew James from Vancouver.
I got it.
$120.
First-time donor.
Thanks for a great show.
Keep up the good work.
Okay, Torben Peterson in Sarpsboro.
Sarpsborg.
Sarpsborg in Norway, $117.15, which is the $117.15 thing from last show.
All lucky numbers.
Roy Metz at Aquarium Services, San Diego, California, $111.11.
Mark F. DeWitt in...
Every time this comes in, I get a kick out of it.
He's in Saudi Daisy, Tennessee, which is one of my favorite city names.
I mean, my favorite is Gnawbone, Indiana.
We have no listeners in Gnawbone, apparently.
But we do have Mark DeWitt at $11.11 in Saudi Daisy.
Elizabeth Borzin in Tucson.
Dame Elizabeth Borzin, if I'm not mistaken.
$11.11.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
She's a dame.
In memory of my grandfather, Warner, a World War II Navy lieutenant commander and CBA. My grandfather was also a lieutenant commander in the Navy.
My Marine Uncle Mike, one of the frozen chosen, and my U.S. Air Force dad who navigated for my Uncle Jack.
How I miss them.
Thank you for your courage.
Thank you, Dame Beth.
Excellent.
Chris Dillon in Briarcliff Manor, New York, $111.11.
Jeffrey Schwab in Olympia, Washington, $101.73.
Sir James Brown, I feel good, in San Diego, California, $100.
And he just became a ham.
He said, that's very good.
Good work.
Where's his call letters?
Yeah.
Come on.
He probably passed the test.
It takes a couple weeks before you get your call signed.
Yeah, it does.
It took me a month almost.
Sir Howard Guttnacht in Seattle, Washington, $99.99.
Did you get Sir James Brown?
We did that, right?
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Yeah, you did the scream.
Yeah, Guttnacht.
Goodneck, niner, niner, niner, niner.
Dr.
Sharkey, Sir Dr.
Sharkey in Jackson, Tennessee, 89-48.
Sir Ballin Gregory Ball in Atherton, somewhere in the UK, 77-11.
David Silberstein in Tel Aviv.
Good.
Give us a report in Israel.
Cameron Gray in London, UK, 66.99.
Rowley Rikama in Helsinki, Finland, 66.77.
You gave us the boots on the ground report.
Yes, and we thank you.
William Mitchell in Vestal, New York, 66-66.
Richard Altman in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada, 63.
I want to mention something here.
I stopped.
We had one of our...
I don't have his note in front of me, do I? We had one of our guys, a new listener since I think show 600 or something like that.
And he sent us a donation of some oddball amount.
He says, I don't know why I'm doing this, but I'm giving you an oddball donation number because I seem to notice that people use these oddball numbers.
And I guess we haven't explained this to anybody since show 60 or whenever, when we first started taking donations.
And I'm going to do that now.
When we first started taking donations, we had people would send in these crazy numbers just that were, you know, 1793, 1776.
They're all these, just nutty.
And we would always call them out.
Right.
We would mention, oh, look at this crazy number.
What do you think that's code for, if you remember?
Mm-hmm.
And then at some point, we stopped doing that, but the numbers kept coming in.
And let's put it this way, it's just a tradition that kind of self-involved, like most of the stuff on this show.
Yeah, if people want to donate based upon certain numerology, we're totally cool with that.
Some of it is quite entertaining.
Yeah, Robert Altman, Winnipeg, Manitoba, 63.
And some of it is very powerful, because the Illuminati know that power.
Vincent Ferrari in Suffern, New York, and he knows the number.
61.11 is important.
Sir DH Slammer, 5533.
Matt Seaver, and then he's from, we don't know where he is from, he should be on here somewhere.
Matt Seaver in Knoxville, Tennessee, 5510.
DH Slammer, he's a baron, of course, of Central California Coast.
He's crediting it to Master Andrew Future Knight.
He's going to have to do the accounting.
You want to put him on?
Okay.
Yeah, I'll remember that.
I'll keep track of it.
Never mind.
Ben Doran in Millersport, Ohio, 5280.
Marcos Miryama Nagasaki in Lima, Peru.
There's a lot of Japanese.
There's lots of Japanese.
Is that the first Lima, Peru donation we've ever received?
No, I think we have another one.
I think we've gotten another donation from Lima, Peru.
Hmm.
He says ITM, BP, ITU. They actually had a Japanese prime minister or president for a while.
Roger Esty in Palms Harbor, Florida.
51.
And now the following people are all $50 donors, including Brian Longnecker, I guess, or Finley, Ohio, David Ziegler in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Jakub Wojciak in North Vancouver.
Michael Vickland in Sweden.
Richard Gardner, who I think is a Knight.
I believe so.
Richard Gardner.
Jason Brockman in Hamilton, Ohio.
Aaron Murphy in Rio Rancho, New Mexico.
Sir Paul Vela in Milton Keynes, Buckingham, UK. Aaron Held in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
Connect the dots if you just try working on a game to promote no agenda thinking.
Let's see.
Sounds like a winner.
Thomas Costas in Cortis, Ontario, Canada, $50.
Danny Pooley, or Poole, Pooley probably, in London, England, $50.
David Peet.
Sir David.
Sir David Peet.
Sir David Peet in Aubrey, right around the corner from you, Texas, $50.
And that concludes our donors for show 773.
And we do have a show coming on quickly on Sunday, show 774, as we head towards show 777, which is outrageous.
And thanks to everybody who came in under $50 for reasons of anonymity or the monthly or weekly or per show donations.
Those are great.
Please keep that up.
It's highly appreciated.
Of course, we'll have another show on Sunday.
I will be coming to you with a report from McDonald Observatory in Fort Davis, Texas.
Leaving after the show this evening with the Airstream of Consciousness.
Well, it's about a seven-hour drive.
It's still in Texas?
Yeah, it's still in Texas.
Oh, yeah.
It's six hours and 20 minutes if you don't stop, but we know that my automobile only does about 200 miles on a tank pulling the airstream of consciousness.
So we're actually going to overnight in Junction, Texas.
Yeah, exactly.
The middle of nowhere.
Well, it's probably a cool place then.
We'll see.
Take photos.
And I will be looking through the telescope, and I will be requesting...
Do they have a nine-meter mirror?
One of these...
This telescope they got there?
Is that the one they're going to let you look through?
That's what I've been promised, so I can see the footprints and the flags.
And the diamond.
And the moon bases.
The moon bases.
Please remember us for this coming Sunday.
It is your show.
You support it, and we're happy to be...
While you're looking at that stuff, jump away real fast and look up and see if there's some guy putting slides up there in the top.
Dvorak.org Slash N A A couple of clips as requested. Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got karma.
You've got karma.
Only one entry, but we do say happy birthday.
It is Stephen Berkowitz.
Some might say Stephen.
He turns 35 on the 14th.
Happy birthday from all your buddies here at The Best Podcast in the Universe.
And we have a title for Sir Brian Barrow.
Black Knight Barrow becomes Black Baron.
And he'll have to give us whatever information he wants for his peerage.
We're very happy that he's become a Baron and highly appreciate that.
Two knightings today.
Thank you.
I'll bring up my blade right here.
And Cesar Miramontes, Stephen Berkowitz, gentlemen, step on, all of you have supported the best podcast in the universe.
You might have $1,000 or more.
Therefore, very proud to pronounce the KB Knights of the No-A-Generate Roundtable.
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He'll get that off to you as quickly as possible.
Well, I have probably the best news report I've ever heard.
I'm all about that.
Again from, I think this is DW. And this is the one, this is the story that would probably warrant some discussion.
Who's DW? Deutsche Welle.
Ah, Deutsche Welle.
Das ist ein Unterteil von der 3x3.
No.
3x3.
Nein?
4x4, yeah.
Hot stones in Egypt.
We head to Egypt now, where scientists are hoping that modern technology can help unlock some ancient secrets.
Egyptologists have used thermal imaging to analyze the surface of the Great Pyramid and made an astounding discovery.
Some of the blocks at the foot of the ancient structure are warmer than the surrounding stones, and that means something.
Ha ha ha!
That's right.
And we go to our resident scientist, John C. Dvorak.
John, what could it mean, the stones that are warmer?
Yeah, they're wrong.
It could be a lot of things.
Shut up already.
It's science.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
Man, oh man.
All right.
That's right.
Second half of show, John.
I received two emails.
We have, without a doubt, the best, the best audience.
Oh, yeah.
Are you talking to your what?
Are you talking through a toilet paper roll?
Uh-uh.
And what are you talking through?
I'm talking through a tube that once held some scotch.
Ah.
Regarding the missile launch off the coast of California, two emails, two from opposite sides of the event.
In the morning, Adam and John, I love your show and will donate soon once I dig out of my budget deficit I've built up this year.
I'm an air traffic controller at SoCal TRACON, and I've been doing this job for over 25 years.
This is who you want to be talking to.
The runways at LAX have been undergoing construction since June of this year, and they have been closing them off and on for various upgrades to the ILS and the pavement.
It appears the runway closure at LAX was just a coincidence with the missile launch.
Normally, they do notify us of the VBG, which is, I guess, Vandenberg launches, but we weren't notified ahead of time on this launch.
The warning area airspace has been hot over the last week or so, as stated in the news report.
There are procedures we use here to avoid that airspace, one of which is staying in the West configuration overnight.
Keep up the good work of the show, and if you have any ATC questions in the future, feel free to ask.
And then the follow-up, he said, yeah, it was kind of strange that they didn't warn them in advance, which would be kind of protocol for something like this.
But then, I think you were copied on this email, John.
We received the following from an anonymous producer.
Hi, guys.
On Sunday's show, you mentioned the missile launch off the coast of L.A. John calling it a Minuteman, Adam calling it a scalar weapon.
Neither of these assumptions is correct.
Since I work here, but please keep me anonymous, I can tell you it was actually a Trident 2D5MK.6MOD1LE. Interesting, because that kind of flies in the face of our Tracon guy, but who knows.
The test happened from the water, because the Trident is a submarine launch system, just so you know.
It isn't like we can't handle firing these things.
One anomaly I saw in the media, though, the missile does come back down.
Everyone's saying, oh, it burns up in the atmosphere.
That's bullcrap.
The test was for the new guidance system we made, and so a payload does come down in the ocean, which is then tracked via sonar buoys.
Cool stuff.
If you're interested, I can share some unclassified material with you regarding the missile, but rest assured, if it was a scalar weapons test or anything like that, I would let you know regardless.
I gotta love that.
Well, there you have it.
I think you had a follow-up.
Well, I think I was closer.
Well, he has a bit of analysis, and what I'm about to say is pure conjecture, but for what it's worth, this test was rushed.
I honestly don't think it was exclusively a test.
One of the DASO, which stands for Demonstration and Shakedown Operation Tests, Take about a year to plan and execute, and wouldn't you know it, a year ago in November, there were news stories about Russia trying to fly bombers near the U.S. Some clarification, the Trident is an anti-Soviet weapon.
That's just what it is.
Hell, the unclassified range is the exact arc from the sub-base in Portland, Oregon, to Moscow.
What makes me think DASO-26 is more than a test is not only the timing, because, well, there wasn't any significant technological difference between this DASO-25...
And 24.
And we were all hands on deck rushing in the week before to get everything prepped.
I think this was posturing to remind Russian brass who they were dealing with.
And it comes from an Ohio-class submarine.
Do we have the best audience or what?
Yeah, we've got the best audience, but we have the worst leadership in this country.
It's like just saber-rattling left and right.
What do you want to do, kill us all?
Put Carly in.
She'd be perfect.
Oh, jeez.
All right.
That was good.
All right.
We've learned a little something.
They've got a couple of things here.
There's a...
Oh, yeah.
Here's a little global warming second half of the show thing I thought was interesting.
Hold on a second.
Let me open up the gate.
Let's go to the gate.
Oh, yeah.
To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gate.
You're a bad boy.
You know, we hear all this stuff all the time.
People, they have these kind of rote stories that tell us and scare us about climate change in one way or another.
But when they do these other kinds of, like an other story, they kind of slip information in that is something that you'd think that denialists would definitely be using as examples.
And so they were talking to a paleontologist, and there was some site somewhere in Georgia, Where I guess they found a little town that was 1.8 million years ago.
Some of the first humanoids had come out of Africa.
They had this cool little place that they lived in, which has become kind of a stomping ground for every civilization that's come along.
But let's just play this clip 2 million years ago, Settlement.
Up to the hilltop dig site.
What we found here, it changed our understanding about early traces of human evolution, about fast dispersal of our ancestors, and also it's completely changed our views about who, when, left Africa, and how they were looking, and what they were doing also.
What were these guys doing?
These guys are enjoying life here.
Enjoying life in a place much more lush and temperate 1.8 million years ago.
Thanks to bones discovered here at the same latitude as Boston, we know this was a land with game like elephant, giraffe, and rhinoceros, but also large predators like saber-toothed cats.
All right.
So this is an area of Georgia, which is kind of not temperate anymore, where they have lush.
It was a jungle-like area that was at the same latitude as Boston.
And this is 1.8 million years ago.
Obviously, it was warmer 1.8 million years ago in this populated area than it is today.
So how does this fit into the global warming scheme?
How come we're not dying?
Shouldn't we be dying is what you're saying.
Shouldn't we be dead?
Well, I'm thinking that a lot of the global warming issues is the cycle of ice ages.
Because that place was inundated when the ice came down and retreated.
And we're in a process of ice retreating in the northern climates, that's for sure.
And, of course, it seems to be reforming down below.
Maybe nothing's going on.
But this global warming thing is nonsense.
Just based on what these guys say, what did the guys say?
Wow, 1.8 million years ago, what was the global warming going on?
Yeah.
It seemed like it was kind of warm to me if they had all these animals and it was lush.
We're just going to have to...
I just find it very irritating.
Oh, absolutely.
And we're going to be dealing with this for the next couple of months as we have COP21 happening in Paris just two weeks from now.
The guy doing the rounds, of course, because he's so media-friendly, is the electrical engineer known as Bill Nye, the scare-you-ass guy.
And he was on Bloomberg...
Isn't it interesting that this guy is now the go-to guy for all things climate change?
I think he's either got a really good agent or he's a pretty good sharp cookie for doing this kind of thing.
I think it's because he's the most dynamic.
He's interesting to watch.
He's full of crap.
He's funny because he's full of crap.
And he went on Bloomberg, which is kind of a professional business type television network.
Yeah.
And, well, he finally explained carbon taxes to us.
But he didn't call them taxes.
This is the trick.
So I think Bill Nye may be on track here for explaining what is going to come out of the Paris, and it's actually not even Paris, it's Le Bourget, but okay, the Paris COP21 meeting.
Yeah, can I go back to another question?
Please bring it on.
I'm Bill Nye.
Kick your ass.
Talked about before, which is to say, what do you do for the people that aren't going to go to college?
I think, so, I mean, from a, from a, um, and there's no question that we want STEM education up and down the educational spectrum, but not everyone's going to go to college.
Right on!
Right on!
What do you get?
What a dick!
Let me play that again.
What?
Yeah, he says, right on!
That's him actually saying, right on?
Oh yeah, here it is.
The educational spectrum, but not everyone's going to go to college.
Right on!
Right on!
Not everyone can go to college!
I don't know why he said that, other than, he's insane.
How do you get, I think this is maybe what Tom, I don't want to put words in your mouth, but the question is, with 7% of the workforce is in manufacturing, 93% is in services and government spending, how do you get more people...
Wait a minute, what were those statistics?
Let me just listen to that again.
He's talking about the world's workforce.
I don't know these stats.
...is in services and government.
Back, back, back.
I'm backing it up.
I think this is maybe what Tom, I don't want to put words in your mouth, but the question is, with 7% of the workforce is in manufacturing, 93% is in services and government spending.
Is that true?
93% of the world's working force is in service and government spending?
Seems high.
How do you get more people employed that aren't necessarily going to be college educated?
Here's what we do.
We have a fee.
We cannot ever use the word perhaps.
We cannot say perhaps.
He's holding his arm up to his mouth when he's saying tax because we can't say tax.
We have to call it a fee.
College educated.
Here's what we do.
We have a fee.
We cannot ever use the word products.
We cannot say products.
We have a fee on carbon dioxide.
If we had a fee, if everybody had to pay for the production of carbon dioxide, and when we get more into the weeds, methane, natural gas, leakage, fugitive gas.
Then, when you go to import something from another country to this one, you have to pay a fee for the ship making carbon oxide at sea.
This will act like a tariff, a little bit.
And then, in the U.S., we would once again celebrate these, what nowadays people call skills.
People who can weld, people who can sew.
So what he's saying is that the way we pay for non-collegiate people who have a vocation, like sewing and welding...
By gouging the transport industry?
Yeah!
Well, there's something else I want to mention before we finish that.
I've noticed this...
No, I just really noticed it.
Everybody is using the weld meme.
Yes.
Everywhere.
It was on the debates.
It was on the news.
Oh, you know, it's great.
You can become a welder.
As though the whole world could be just all welders.
I actually can weld.
I can weld.
I can weld at an industrial level with a...
CO2? No, I'm talking about electro, the stick.
Yeah, the stick and the mask.
Oh, you mean the electro?
I can do that.
With an electrode.
I've done that.
So can you heliarch?
I'm not sure I'm familiar with the term.
What does that mean?
That's high-temperature welding.
It's arc welding with a helium thing.
I can't either.
But the two I've done is with the electrode, where you're holding it close.
Arc welding.
That's arc welding.
And the other one, which I enjoyed immensely, where you have a CO2 and it's a machine, then it has a...
It has a pistol grip, and a little electrode comes out, but it's covered with some combination of gases.
And you don't have to arc anymore, but it goes on beautifully.
And I've also made the mistake of welding without the mask for about 15 minutes.
That was the stupidest thing you could imagine.
And I was 15 or something, and I woke up, and I was in such pain.
Yeah.
Ugh.
Yeah, I'm surprised that whoever taught you to weld didn't emphasize the use of that mask.
Well, we were kids.
We were putting together, you know, cross...
But you just taught yourself?
Yeah.
Yeah, we were putting together...
Another reason why mentorship is so important.
Motocross, you know, welding frames and stuff.
Now, back to the carbon thing.
NPR, so this is where it's going.
We know it's about carbon credits, which is, Bill Nye is correct.
It's a fee.
It's a tax.
But how is it going to work?
And I was surprised when I heard NPR implementing our scam that we were unable to put together.
Right on!
When you say it, it's better.
Say it again.
Right on!
Right on!
Right on, Bill!
Our idea was to buy a forest and then sell that as carbon credits?
I can't remember.
It didn't work out.
An NPR news team recently traveled to the Amazon reporting on deforestation linked to climate change, and they wondered about a side effect.
Their travel burned fossil fuels, as travel nearly always does.
It raised a question they put to Stacey Vanek-Smith of NPR's Planet Money podcast.
All told, NPR correspondent Lourdes Garcia-Navarro, producer Lauren McGocky, and the rest of the team traveled more than 15,000 miles to see the disappearing rainforest up close.
That's a waste of time.
And they started to worry that in reporting on climate change, they had actually made the problem worse.
By traveling 15,000 miles.
And then when we came to the conclusion that we might be contributing to that in some way, we were pretty depressed.
So they checked out a few...
We got pretty depressed.
I get depressed because I'm killing the earth.
I get depressed.
That in reporting on climate change, they had actually made the problem worse.
And then when we came to the conclusion that we might...
Noticeably worse?
Can we look outside and see how worse it is?
Oh man, hold on a second.
In a minute.
We were pretty depressed.
So they checked out a few carbon offset programs.
Here's how these services work.
They tally up the carbon you've used in your travels and charge you to take that carbon out of the atmosphere.
But the team was left with a question.
Does carbon offsetting actually work?
Can we pay our way out of our carbon footprint for this trip?
I had my mission.
The first thing I did was track down Cheryl Sturgis.
She invented carbon offsets.
I thought Al Gore invented carbon offsets.
I guess you could say that.
That sounds like a very big claim, but I was the one that had the idea, so maybe yes.
Yeah, well, come here, I'll spank you.
In 1987, Sturgis worked for AES, an energy company.
They were about to build a coal plant in Connecticut.
But there was a lot of buzz starting about fossil fuels and climate change, and the CEO came to Sturgis and asked if there was something they could do to undo the environmental damage of the coal plant.
Now pay attention, because this is how it's going to work in our future.
I was so excited.
No one had ever asked the question on a commercial level.
Sturgis started researching, and she came across a scientific paper that involved trees.
Trees take in CO2 and use it to grow, so why not plant trees to drink in all the carbon emissions?
Sturgis thought maybe they could even put a little park around the coal plant.
She went to some climate scientists to figure out how many trees it would take.
It was 52 million trees.
What?
For one coal plant.
For one coal plant.
That was the estimate of how many trees it would take to offset the carbon that the plant would emit in its 40-year lifetime.
52 million trees.
Let's go plant them.
52 million trees.
So no little park around the coal plant.
But it didn't actually matter where the trees went.
Carbon goes everywhere.
So Sturgis found a program that was working with farmers in Guatemala.
And AES paid the farmers to grow trees as crops.
The farmers got the money.
AES offset their carbon.
And even got a bunch of corporate citizenship awards.
So this is what it's about.
This is why all these African nations are all sitting around going, where's our money?
Where's our money?
Climate, climate change.
That's how it's going to work.
Plant some trees.
Thank you.
Now I can continue polluting.
This is ludicrous.
That was a couple of things.
I noticed that early in that clip she said, went to visit Brazil for the deforestation leading from climate change or caused by climate change.
I'd have to listen to it again.
What is that?
It's bullcrap.
Well, we can listen to it again.
Okay.
News team recently traveled to the Amazon reporting on deforestation linked to climate change.
Linked to climate change.
Linked to climate change.
How does that work?
Well, I think what she's meaning to say is because of deforestation, climate change is worse.
I think that's what she means.
But linked is not...
That's not the way that sentence...
It's not good reporting.
But that's not what is really important.
You want good reporting?
What morons are you listening to?
Who are these people?
That's NPR! NPR, Planet Money.
But that's not what's important, John.
We know the true nature.
We know what's really going on with the climate.
Okay.
Because of what's happening in Greenland right now, the map of the world will have to be redrawn.
This is what would happen if San Francisco passed.
Oh, John C. Dvorak with a mudflat rapport!
Well, the tide is in.
It's high tide about now.
And?
And the mudflats are covered with a little water.
We are not going to die just yet.
It's coming.
There is a cool outfit called the National Association of Scholars, which at first I was like, this is going to be one of these bogus a-hole outfits, but it's better than that.
You should take a look at them.
This is the Director of Research Projects.
Talking about how the climate change movement is working to excoriate deniers of these theories.
And it starts off, you kind of think, wow, wait a minute, is she all for this?
But at the end, you figure out that she's really reporting on how ludicrous this is.
Punish!
The difference is that burning fossil fuel energy causes climate change and the producers of fossil fuel energy are pretty much unilaterally guilty for that climate change.
The deeper reason for the movement though is that divestment is really a political ploy.
Investment is a means to stigmatize an industry, scapegoat someone other than consumers, and to build political momentum for stricter climate legislation in the future.
The most immediate aim right now is the UN Climate Summit in Paris this December, where activists are hoping for a very strong climate pact.
And divestment really uses the universities as pawns in this larger political battle.
In most cases, the students who support divestment support those measures at all.
However, divestment activists draw a very sharp line between the suppliers of energy and the consumers of energy.
as a whole would really let any consumers off the hook for their own consumption of energy.
One of the thought leaders of the divestment movement, Naomi Klein, in her best-selling book, This Changes Everything, Capitalism vs. the Climate, says that worrying about your own consumption and trying to reduce your own use of fossil fuels is, in her words, and this says that worrying about your own consumption and trying to reduce your own use of fossil fuels is, in And this is a quote, a form of climate change denial.
So trying to shrink your own carbon footprint is climate change denial, but going after the producers of fossil fuels is evidently the thing to do if you are an environmentalist.
There you go.
Too bad she sounded like she was 12.
Well, she sounded like the girl that's on NCISLA that's one of the nerd girls, but not that, which brings me to another point.
So I saw that pilot, Girls Gone Rogue?
No, it's Girls Gone Dead.
It's an Amazon pilot.
No, Good Girls Revolt.
Yeah.
The worst.
Okay, so here's the deal.
And this is why I don't understand why you didn't get my reference, because apparently you didn't watch it very closely.
I watched it.
I had missed that, but I'd only gotten the Nora Ephron part, but I'd missed that one nugget, yes.
Yes, there's a nugget in there where all the women go in there.
This is a bogus story.
You need to watch this.
This is Amazon Pilot.
Yeah, it's an Amazon pilot called Girls Gone...
No, Good Girls Revolt.
Good Girls Gone Bad.
Good Girls Revolt.
Good Girls Revolt.
It's supposed to be taking place in 1969, which is within my wheelhouse.
Which is why I wanted you to watch it.
Yes, because I'll give you a few things.
Nobody used the word newbie in 1969.
Never did.
If they did, it was rare.
And I don't even think the word existed by the way.
I don't think so either.
During that period.
And then there's also some reference to smoking dope that was like, would you like to smoke up?
Some crazy reference that one little cute girl who's one of the main characters said.
Super cute.
Yeah, she said to her boss or something, would you want to stoke up?
It wasn't stoke up, it was something else that was bogus.
They never, in that era, by the way, was the era of people saying bitchin' a lot, and oh wow, and groovy.
Those were like three.
And right on, right on.
And right on.
Right on was huge during that era.
And you never heard any of that jargon in here.
And by the way, the bow tie, which was semi-popular now and again, tended to be the floppy bow tie, like Yves Saint Laurent used to wear this.
It was a bow tie, but the bottom, it wasn't perfectly semi-popular.
Symmetric.
It had a kind of floppy, droopy look.
These guys were wearing bow ties with pointy ends.
I don't remember ever seeing that tie during that era.
And then, of course, the guy who was the jerk-off, Jim Belushi, is bullcrap.
That type of person never existed.
And this whole thing was just annoying.
I had J.C. and his wife, Jessie, over to watch it.
So John sends me a note.
You got me!
And I'm like, what are you talking about?
And then you don't know what I'm talking about.
This is what I find even more annoying.
So at some point, the girls all quit or they walk out or they take off early or they do something.
They're not getting paid as much as men.
Nora Ephron leads the walkout.
Yeah, Nora Ephron.
So they go to this meeting of women that are just grousing about stuff.
And there's a black woman who looks a little like Davis, the communist with the crazy hair.
And...
Which I thought they'd be referencing her because that was one of her eras.
And Angela Davis.
Angela Davis, yeah.
Yeah, Angela Davis.
Just as an aside, I went to an event in the Berkeley Community Theater where Angela Davis was speaking.
And sitting next to me was one of the really genuinely most beautiful women I've ever seen in my life.
And she was just gaga over every stupid thing Angela Davis said.
And I was thinking, man, this girl's getting less attractive by the minute.
Anyway.
So we go back to the story.
So they go in this woman's meeting.
They're having a meeting.
They're all grousing about their jobs and their bosses, and they're not getting paid enough, which is, you know, a modern theme.
And one of them leans over there and says, who is that speaking, this Angela Davis person?
Who is that speaking?
And the girl turns over as though this is a big deal.
She says, Eleanor Holmes Norton.
And I go, what?
And I just...
Blew up at the TV and everybody...
And then I said, Adam has scammed me to have me watch this because Eleanor...
I didn't realize that.
That made it extra good.
I didn't even realize that.
I thought you would have noticed that.
Did you not see the woman?
No, I went back and watched it and then I saw it.
Eleanor Holmes Norton, who is just this douche.
She's the one...
I punked you, man.
I punked you.
The Eleanor Holmes Norton is the U.S. House of Representatives person.
Non-voting member.
Non-voting member.
But yes, she's yakking about everything.
And then at the very end of the scene, they all decided to pull out their compacts and look at their vulva.
That was the best.
And then the two girls, the cute girl, and I guess it was, or they laughed.
We're not going to do that.
John.
And then the whole thing was, it was, I would say, yes, everyone should watch it just because it's Really poorly done.
It's supposed to be some sort of like the way Mad Men was done with a lot of official.
This is the kind of clothes they'd wear.
This is the way they talk.
This is the way they drink.
It's a period piece.
None of it.
It was all crap.
Success!
All right.
Anyway.
Yeah.
Restart the tape.
No, tape is walking.
Tape is running.
It looks like...
We have to wind it down.
By the way, most of those pilots...
Amazon is just...
They got nobody with a clue at that company.
Their pilots are shit.
They're shit.
It's really bad.
Some of that stuff is really, really atrocious.
Yes.
And brought to you by Geico.
I don't know why Geico puts up with that.
Why they think it's interesting.
They probably think it's hilarious.
Tomorrow is an important day.
It's a day that is celebrated with a website and with a mission.
And it is something that you're quite familiar with.
Tomorrow is World Vasectomy Day.
Yes, this is when, actually, the last World Vasectomy Day is the time that our magician friend there in Austin got his vasectomy on that day.
Yeah, Brian Brushwood.
Yes, Brian.
Do they have a video on World Vasectomy?
I don't want to see the video.
Do you want to hear the video?
No, no.
This whole idea is just, I'm not happy with it.
It's kind of funny.
Okay, play it.
We all have occasions we celebrate each year.
For us, that date is World Vasectomy Day.
But what is World Vasectomy Day?
Let's take it one step at a time.
A vasectomy is a permanent form of birth control for men where the doctor first separates the vas deferens and then seals up each end.
This prevents sperm from entering into the seminal stream and fertilizing a woman's egg.
After it's done, you'll still produce the same amount of semen, but no sperm.
Or like some say, all juice, no seeds.
All juice, no seeds.
It's an iso.
It's a show title.
Can you just use a condom?
For sure.
But it turns out 18 of every 100 men who use a condom as their primary form of birth control get a woman pregnant within a year.
With a vasectomy, failure is less than 1%.
You do the math.
And what do you call a man who uses withdrawal?
What do you call a man who uses withdrawal, John?
An onanist.
As his form of birth control?
Daddy.
And while no guy...
I'm telling you, these guys are funny.
I like the doctor poking around in our private parts.
For almost 99% of men, there's no lasting pain.
The whole thing takes only 15 minutes, and there's no negative effect on our sex lives.
Except you start to look like a lesbian.
A thousand guys, ten guys are in agony.
Yeah, I don't want to be that one guy.
That's kind of a high number.
You know it would be me.
In fact, eliminating the fear of pregnancy can actually make it better.
You'd think every man whose family is complete would get a vasectomy.
But there are whole countries where less than 1% even choose the option.
So why are men so resistant?
Well, because it sounds crap.
Then you look like a lesbian.
Bad information and old habits.
Ah, bad information.
Lead to fears like, my sex life will decrease, or my testosterone will decline.
Or I'll start to look like a lesbian.
Pfft!
The Luo language of Kenya uses the same word for vasectomy and castration.
But the common fear world over is that a vasectomy makes you less of a man.
Really?
Manhood is not determined by how many children you make but how well you care for those you already have.
And some people don't even want any kids.
And that's their choice as well.
A courageous man doesn't run from risk.
He shares responsibility with his partner.
Oh, you see, you're not a courageous man.
He doesn't give in to fear.
He gets a vasectomy out of love.
Now, wait for the payoff.
And if that love you feel also includes concern for the planet...
You should know that a vasectomy lowers carbon footprint 28 times more than a lifetime.
Get your vasectomy to save the planet.
Oh my god, that's a clip of the day you can play.
Reducing, reusing, and recycling.
So on World Vasectomy Day, we celebrate the men and women who rise as one to take responsibility for our children, our families, and our future.
For some, this means choosing to get a vasectomy.
For the doctors and providers, it means doing them.
For all of us, how we bring new life into the world is certainly one of the most important conversations of our lives.
So join us this year on November 13th as we make history and spread some love.
Clip of the day.
That's why you insisted I listen to it.
I just love that they bring it up.
Scheming.
You're scheming.
I love that they bring it up.
The girls one wild and the other crap.
There's nothing like messing with you, man.
I need that clip, by the way.
I'll send it to you.
But email it to me.
Don't Skype it.
I will.
I will.
Yeah.
I'm happy to see that a lot of more mainstream publications are picking up on Warren Buffett and the Keystone XL pipeline decision.
Let's see.
I think you started talking about this in 2013.
It was actually quite...
Yeah, maybe even 2012.
Maybe even 2012, yeah.
Ben, this was an interesting one.
Who wrote the article?
This was from Yahoo.
Buffett's $1 billion purchase that got buried in record quarter.
He...
At the end of the third quarter, a subsidiary of one of its subsidiaries bought some 25,000 tank cars from General Electric and didn't bother disclosing the purchase price, which was $1 billion.
Gee, no wonder it's not in our interest.
Our national interest.
I know.
I guess the media is finally picking up on this, what is, to me, just a big corporation scam.
Oh, and big donor scam.
Big Democrat donor scam is what it is.
The president expanded on his decision.
America's leading the world towards dealing with climate change in a serious way.
Serious.
Global action.
One of the reasons the State Department decided the Keystone Pipeline would not serve the national interest.
Proving that project would have undercut our global leadership.
And we've got to lead by example.
Because ultimately, if we're going to prevent large parts of the earth from becoming not only inhospitable but uninhabitable, Then we're going to have to keep some fossil fuels in the ground rather than burn them.
We're going to have to reduce the amount of danger of pollution released in the skies.
We're going to have to make sure that we develop the clean energy alternatives that are sustainable.
And as long as I'm president and as long as you're out there organizing, America is going to hold ourselves to the same high standards with which we want to hold the rest of the world.
I'm not quite sure how it works when you have, in one week, three different incidents where oil tanker cars have derailed and overturned.
That's not going to hurt the environment?
What a scam.
What a lie.
What a lie this is.
It's just a lie.
And then we have Carrie.
Now, Carrie, this is going to come back to haunted.
I'm telling you right now, Kerry, you're an idiot.
Because he's like, oh, yes, well, the State Department did that.
Well, he's the State Department.
He's like, oh, I took care of it.
So Obama's free and clear.
The President's free and clear.
Hey, it was the State Department who said that, not me.
I have been deeply immersed in this issue, in this international debate.
Because I'm excellent!
For decades.
And the question of whether the United States would be willing to make the same tough choices that we advocate to the rest of the world.
That question has dogged us from the start.
Oh.
Recently, we had the opportunity to prove that the answer to that question is yes.
This past Friday, I informed President Obama of the State Department's my determination that permitting the construction of the Keystone XL pipeline is not in the national interest of the United States.
I know all the arguments.
Believe me, I know them backwards and forwards from the last year and a half.
Studying them very carefully.
The fact is that permitting Keystone would not have been the long-term economic driver that its advocates claimed.
It would not have had a measurable impact on our energy security.
And it would have been basically irrelevant when it comes to gas prices for American consumers, which are already coming down, as you know.
But what it would do What a tool.
Unbelievable.
It's just a tool.
Well, I have one little clip that was not covered by the 3x3s in any way.
We mentioned on the show recently the situation in Portugal.
Yes.
Which is pretty much falling apart.
But now apparently the government that was elected to be the government...
It's been kicked out.
No, they've taken over.
They've taken over, but they did it through, you know, because there's a parliamentary system where you've got to get some, you know, your buddies.
Well, hold on, but let me get, the background is that the party that won the most votes became the opposition because they're Euroskeptics, and so the other guys, the other side, made a coalition of the small teams, and they said, oh, okay, so we're bigger in coalition, but then when it came down to an actual vote, the guys who really won the election voted down their entire plan, so the government fell.
And now it recoalized, coalist, what's the word I'm looking for?
It reformed another government, and the guys who were supposed to win, which are the socialists, that are irked about everything going on, they're actually in power now.
Including their anti-austerity.
It was clear that the simple majority we achieved in the election wouldn't be enough to push through all the reforms my government planned.
But it would be fraudulent, for simple reasons of expediency, to step back from the political program we had presented to the Portuguese people.
But the new leftist alliance says the program meant selling off state assets and slashing public services.
What we've realized is that this government wants to sell off everything.
Having privatized anything from energy to airports, it now wants to press ahead with the privatization of all public transport.
It was even going to sell off the roads and the rail track.
The three-party left-wing alliance under Antonio Costa has what Pedro Passos Coelho lacked, But observers say its members share little common ground other than a desire to oust the center-right and a deep antipathy to austerity.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Goodbye, Europe.
That's how it starts.
Goodbye.
Say goodbye.
Regime change, European style, which is just to oust these guys and put a puppet in it.
They did it in what Greece wants.
They did it in Italy.
Italy?
Yeah, Italy.
And they're going to try to do it in Portugal.
The Portuguese are, you know, that country is located in a hard spot.
It's just, they're tough cookies.
And we also have Catalonia now preparing to split from Spain.
It wants to.
Well, they did, you know, the MPs voted.
It was a bogus vote, yeah.
Now, this whole thing has fallen apart.
And the austerity thing is interesting because austerity is only used, I think, as a corrupting tool to beat down a people so they just cry uncle.
Because austerity doesn't work.
It just never worked.
We never did the austerity thing in this country, and we were in as bad a shape as anybody.
But we're, like, fine.
Your stores are filled with food.
There's Uber drivers everywhere.
Mac and cheese.
We got mac and cheese.
Yeah, mac and cheese.
There's a little bit of that in the bug.
You saw that new bug thing.
There's a new bug device.
You can grow your own bugs.
Yes.
You know, the BBC did a whole piece with ministers of parliament to prepare people for the impending doom, which is, A, climate change, because, of course, nothing else will be around except bugs.
But also, just shut up, slave.
Shut up and eat some bugs.
They made the members of parliament eat bugs on a BBC show.
I miss this.
Obsture MP for Beckenham.
I have tried carried crickets, Christmas podding mealworms, plain roasted locusts and cheddar cheese mealworms.
Quite a nice dinner, actually.
I think the public would quite enjoy the idea of MPs being fed insects, but you're doing it quite willingly.
What's your favourite so far?
Plain roasted locusts and I quite like salt and vinegar flavoured crickets.
You were my favourite.
The salt and vinegar crickets are a winner, yeah.
So there's a table of exhibits here.
There's a stuffed rat.
There's an excellent belt with rats on it, which I'm told is the Royal Rat Catcher's Sash.
And would you just introduce yourself?
My name's Andy Brigham.
I'm the research zoologist at Renticle Initial.
The Rat Catcher's Sash.
Tell me something about that.
George IV, so that's considerably older even than Rentakill.
It's this sash that the official rat catcher with his sort of terrier and his cage for trapping rats would have actually worn when he was on his duties.
These rats on it are actually solid silver.
I've got to make sure we get it home safe.
It's worth a few, Bob.
It's certainly worth a few, Bob, I'm sure.
We should take it to Antiques Roadshow.
I'm told it comes with a curse, that the winning branch manager every year used to wear it at a special dinner.
These guys are nuts.
And two years running, they died the next year.
So ever since then, I don't think anyone's dared to wear it.
And crickets and cream.
You can try it on if you want.
No, thanks.
The Ratcatcher Satch there.
But I know your journalistic curiosity is really getting the better of you, saying, I wonder what they were like.
Well, I've solved that problem for you.
I've brought in some plain roasted locusts for you both.
Well, here it is.
I'm trying not to look too closely at this.
Down the hatch.
I will eat it.
Ah!
Ah!
Mmm.
It's like pork scratchings.
A bit odd.
Oh, I've got a wing stuck in my throat.
Well, they are better than I imagined.
Where's Michael Burke when you need him?
Well, when Burke was in here earlier, we could have been him.
They might just catch on, but I'd like them to look less like locusts.
I'd like them to be a bit disguised.
This is a taste of the future.
If temperatures rise, crops will die, insects will flourish.
Think of this as a taste of...
Can we bring cake next?
We're all going to die!
I love bugs!
Bugs, bugs, bugs!
Tastes like poop.
There you go.
Unbelievable.
And that's your future.
Call the neighbors, wake the kids.
Bugs for you.
Alright.
Yeah, I know.
That's a great way to end.
Alright.
Hit that one out of the park.
Yeah, I try.
Okay, I'm hustling.
We've got to hustle, hustle.
I've got to go pick up the air stream of consciousness before the storage place closes.
You've got to hit the road, my friend.
I know.
I've got to rock, got to rock, got to roll, got to rock, got to roll.
Is Tina going to go?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yes.
Very nice.
So, yeah, we'll bring you a report from...
The moon.
That's okay with you?
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