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	I'm giving my location away.
	Pack up the van!
	Let's go, let's go.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Sunday, October 4th, 2015.
	Time once again for your Gitmo Nation media assassination.
	Episode 762.
	This is No Agenda.
	Flying the false flags at half-mast in a conversation about common-sense laws.
	And broadcasting live from FEMA Region 6 here in Austin, Tejas.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm impressed with the concept of flying the false flag at half-mast, I'm John C. Devorak.
	It's crackblot and buzzkill in the morning.
	I know, I'm a poet, what can I tell you?
	Where did you get that from?
	I made that up just before we started.
	Just on the fly?
	Yes, just before we started.
	That's a good one.
	Well, the reason why is because there was...
	Hold on, where do I have it?
	There was a presidential proclamation.
	Uh-oh.
	Hold on, wait, wait.
	I've got to straighten everything out.
	Alright, I'm seated.
	By the President of the United States of America.
	Proclamation.
	As a mark of respect for the victims of gun violence perpetrated on October 1, 2015 in Roseburg, Oregon, by the authority vested in me as President of the United States by the Constitutional Law of the United States, I hereby ordered the flag of the United States shall be flown at half-staff, at the White House, on all public buildings and grounds, at all military posts and naval stations, and on all naval vessels of the federal government in the District of Columbia and throughout the United States and its territory possessions until sunset October 6, 2015.
	Hold on, let me check.
	I don't see any half-masked flags here in Austin from the window.
	Well, they're bastards.
	This is, I think, is this the first time the president has done this with a mass shooting?
	No, I don't think.
	I mean, I don't know.
	Let's start with that.
	But I don't think so.
	Yeah.
	Although he does have, you know, he's got his new strategy about all this stuff.
	Well, first, before we get into it, I know you do.
	Before we get into the strategy, I would just like to say, I'm so tired of this.
	I'm tired of these guys doing this on the day we have a show.
	Yes!
	I've noticed this too!
	I think the Boston bombing was on our show.
	I think the Navy guy was on our show.
	They shot up the place, even though we never saw anything but him standing around.
	I think there's been at least five.
	He's on our show.
	I hadn't seen The Keeper for a while, so we'll have a nice Thursday night.
	I'm like, oh, what now?!
	Oh!
	Ruining my day.
	And I immediately was so tired of false flag, hoax, crisis actor.
	Oh.
	I did get sucked into it, but we'll talk about that in a moment.
	Why don't you tell me, what is the strategy clip?
	This is Obama's main thing.
	Okay, this is President Obama's strategy.
	This is the strategy for almost everything going on.
	So the main thing I'm going to do is I'm going to talk about this.
	Yeah.
	Yes, and I'm glad you brought that up, because I am so tired.
	So tired of stuff like this.
	This is Hillary Clinton.
	Can we get a reaction to the Oregon shooting?
	Can we get a reaction to the Oregon shooting?
	30 people shot plus Sweden.
	Oh, you know, Dan, it's just beyond my comprehension that we are seeing these mass murders happen again and again and again.
	And as I have...
	We need to point out that a mass murder is two people or more, I think.
	No, I actually looked it up just before the show.
	The definition varies now.
	There's an argument between three and four.
	Oh, I thought it was minimum two.
	That's just a couple?
	That's just a...
	That'd be a couple.
	Dad, we have got to get the political will to do everything we can to keep people safe.
	I know there is a way to have sensible gun control measures that will prevent violence, prevent guns from getting into the wrong hands, and save lives.
	And I am committed to doing everything I can to achieve that.
	Thank you.
	This is what I'm so tired of.
	It's always, we need to have a conversation.
	A conversation about common sense gun laws.
	And so a couple things about that.
	One, conversation.
	Here's your conversation.
	You cannot have common sense laws that keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill.
	You can, but here's how it will go.
	Have you ever seen a therapist that your insurance paid for?
	Yes?
	Oh, I'm sorry, you can't have a gun.
	I'm sorry, you just can't have one.
	Unless you want to tell us what you discussed with your therapist, and then we'll evaluate that in the secondary.
	And by the way, now that you're on the no-gun-having list, you probably shouldn't have a job anywhere near children or a school or anything like that.
	So that obviously is not going to work.
	I don't understand why no one comes out and says the obvious.
	Repeal the Second Amendment, and then you can hand out specialized licenses to hunters and other types of people who, of course, have culture who need to have guns.
	But no one ever says that.
	Well, you just did, and I'm going to say it from now on.
	Really?
	You don't like what's going on?
	It repealed the Second Amendment.
	It's been done.
	Yeah.
	Amendments have been repealed, like the...
	Volstadt Amendment was one of them.
	What was that?
	That's the one that instituted prohibition.
	Oh, yes.
	Exactly.
	Prohibition.
	21st Amendment.
	And that one, by the way, we should say is the way that marijuana should have been made illegal.
	People don't seem to want to make this argument.
	No.
	Well, so the thing is...
	The face page was, of course, out of control, and I did not do any posting because it's useless.
	But, yeah, the face page.
	That's the one thing I have the slight advantage of over here, and I feel sorry for you.
	Yeah, you should, but it's my beach.
	I don't even have an account, so I don't have to go in there and suffer through what I know is misery.
	It is suffering.
	But, you know, so everyone's talking, we're a nation of laws.
	We can do this.
	We can have a conversation.
	Your lower lip has to come out.
	We need a conversation.
	There's only one conversation.
	It's really simple.
	But the reason why is because you will find out that the majority of this country does not want to have a gun-free country.
	They like the Second Amendment.
	That's why it will never...
	As far as I know, it's never been put to a vote.
	What do you need?
	Do you need three quarters to 75%?
	Or what do you need in order to have a constitutional amendment change?
	I think you need...
	I'm just off the top of my head.
	I mean, but this is close.
	I think you need two-thirds of the Congress to agree on the thing, and it has to go out to the states, and the states have to approve it by 70.
	75% of the states have to approve it.
	Yeah, okay, there you go.
	And I guess no politician believes that will ever happen, ergo they never raise the point.
	Because it won't.
	I should mention this because Mimi likes to harp on this.
	Can I make my point and then I want to hear what Mimi has to say?
	No, I just want to slip this in because it just strengthens your point.
	Okay, only the tip.
	Mimi likes to point out that the Equal Rights Amendment was never passed.
	And if you can't pass that, you're not passing gun control.
	No.
	And, you know, if we repeal the Second Amendment, I'll be the first.
	Okay, no guns.
	Otherwise, I should go live somewhere else if I don't like it.
	We're a nation of laws.
	We have a democracy.
	You mean like Switzerland, which has a higher standard of living in the United States, where you're required to own a gun?
	Although...
	I must point out that the way that works, as we have discussed this, is after your mandatory military service, then you are required as a former serviceman or woman to have your weapon in the house and functioning.
	Yes.
	That's a well-armed militia right there.
	Yeah, I'd say.
	But...
	This is the only argument you can make with people.
	Then I do it successfully.
	I see it work because it's very short.
	No, we need a common sense.
	No, why common sense?
	Common sense to me is let's go ahead and repeal the Second Amendment and then we can hand out special, like fishing licenses.
	We can hand out special licenses to someone who needs to hunt or whatever necessity you have.
	And then we'd be good.
	No, that's not going to work well.
	Then, clearly, you don't belong in this country of assholes who like guns.
	I'm sorry.
	It's a democracy.
	Do you have any other point?
	No.
	No.
	I loved, by the way, how a lot of this played out.
	There's a reason why I really got into it, because there's a lot of kookiness going on, as usual.
	But I won't delve into crisis actors.
	And false flags.
	It's all about the politicization, which came very, very quickly.
	I feel shamefully fast that the president came out.
	It was just way too quick.
	And I saw a lot of the Oregonian officials saying, we'll have that conversation, but we'll have that.
	Now is not the time for the conversation.
	But then you have John Carl from ABC. ABC, strangely, this one, strangely, out to slam Jeb Bush now for the first time.
	Now, how is the 3-3 going, John?
	It's eighth week.
	I have more, I have example after example of him not slamming Jeb Bush.
	Then let me give you the example from John Carl from ABC who was called on by name by the president.
	And this was what?
	What circumstance?
	In regards to the Oregon shooting.
	Was it on the, what I meant by circumstance, I mean where and how was this broadcast and how did you see it?
	I believe this is from my raw source material.
	So this was not broadcast on the ABC Nightly News?
	I don't know.
	I do FacePage.
	I don't do 3x3.
	I can assure you it wasn't, but play.
	So the president calls on John Carl from ABC by name, and he even says that he had to do this.
	Thank you, Mr.
	President.
	Back in July, you said that the gun issue has been the most frustrating of your presidency, and we certainly heard that frustration from you last night.
	So, in the last 15 months of your presidency...
	I even like how the president's going, yeah, right, right, yeah, right, right, right, right.
	He knows the question.
	Yeah, he's mumbling himself.
	Hurry up.
	Get the question out, junk.
	I'm the one to do the slow talking.
	Yeah.
	You said that the gun issue has been the most frustrating of your presidency, and we certainly heard that frustration from you last night.
	So in the last 15 months of your presidency, do you intend to do anything differently to get Congress to act or to do something about this gun violence problem?
	And I have to get you to respond to something that Jeb Bush just said.
	Hold on a second.
	Did you hear what he said?
	Yeah.
	I have to get you to respond.
	Yeah, somebody told him to ask this question or else his editor.
	Yeah, he said, I have to ask this question because otherwise I'm not allowed to be called on by you or whatever the deal was.
	He clearly says, I have to ask this question.
	And to be fair...
	Hold on, let me just...
	Roll it back a second.
	I can tell you, but I'll explain what's going on.
	Okay, all right.
	Good, good, good.
	Hold on.
	Do something about this gun violence problem, and I have to get you to respond to something that Jeb Bush just said.
	He's not, I have to ask you the question.
	No, I have to get you to respond to something Jeb Bush said.
	And to be fair...
	And to be fair, because I'm just the messenger.
	Don't shoot!
	To Governor Bush, I want to read it directly.
	Asked about the drive to take action in light of what happened in Oregon.
	He said, look, stuff happens.
	There's always a crisis, and the impulse is always to do something, and it's not always the right thing to do.
	How would you react to Governor Bush?
	Now, this was so beautifully scripted, because the president has a punchline.
	I don't even think I have to react to that one.
	I think the American people should hear that and make their own judgments based on the fact that every couple of months we have a mass shooting.
	Yeah, okay.
	So explain this to me, John.
	Well, they're all in on Bush at ABC. It's so obvious.
	They needed to have something on the record that Obama said so they could counter it on the news broadcast, if there was anything to counter.
	Uh-huh.
	And so nothing really showed up to count.
	Everyone just stuck with this, oh, you know, stuff happens.
	And so ABC, right after they asked this question that you just pointed out, they decided to defend Bush preemptively without really talking about what you saw.
	I think there was something against Bush.
	Here's what they played.
	This is ABC defense Jeb over comments about the UCC. Democrats have jumped all over Jeb Bush's comments, but as he points out, he was referring generally to how politicians respond to crises, not directly to what happened in Oregon.
	And just minutes ago, David, he tweeted out, liberal Dems and some in media distorted my words to advance their agenda in the wake of tragedy.
	It's wrong.
	David?
	John Carl live outside the White House.
	John, thank you.
	And that was the same guy reporting.
	Exactly.
	Nice.
	I'm glad we coordinated our clips once again.
	Good work.
	We don't need to.
	It just works out.
	Well, over on CNN, which is my beat, Wolf Blitzer was, of course, doing what he's always asked to do, is to propagate the formula.
	This president, I think, is the sense I talked to some people in the White House tonight.
	After that speech, I said, wow, he seems fired up.
	And they said, he is fired up.
	He wants to do something, so we'll see.
	It was almost Gloria, like he was embarrassed of the United States in front of the whole world, saying, every other industrialized country, every other Western country...
	Yeah, I love that one.
	What else did he say about every other country?
	About gun laws?
	No, they don't have mass shootings.
	They don't have these kinds of mass shootings.
	They're not America.
	Yeah, but industrialized modern countries, you know, like France with Charlie Hebdo and, you know, Australia had a couple shootings the other day.
	Yeah, like Hitler.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yes.
	Yes, like Hitler.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Let me see.
	I've got one.
	I want to slip in and get it out of the way.
	Slip away.
	During Obama's little speech on Thursday, right after our show, he went on, and that thing, he went, oh, you know, and he's also sad, and a lot of it seemed like insincere, if you ask me.
	But he sent out the word, and one of our producers pointed this out to me, he threw down the gauntlet, and he decided to become a news editor for the networks.
	Oh, do explain.
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	He decided to give, like a news editor would do, they give you an assignment, and you would then do it.
	So here is Obama.
	This is Obama giving the assignment, and then NBC, the next day, I might add, carefully carrying out the assignment.
	It is relevant to our common life together, to the body politic.
	I would ask news organizations, because I won't put these facts forward, have news organizations tally up the number of Americans who've been killed through terrorist attacks over the last decade and the number of Americans who've been killed by gun violence.
	Yeah, and I know what's coming, but holy mackerel, when I heard that, I said to myself, self, this is crazy town talk.
	And post those side-by-side on your news reports.
	Okay, hold on a second, boss.
	Both, hold on, we're gonna go do both.
	This won't be information coming from me, it will be coming from you.
	I just gave the order.
	The tragedy here in Roseburg is reigniting the debate over gun control.
	Practically by the end of this broadcast, two more people will have been shot and killed in this country.
	According to the CDC, one person is killed with a firearm nearly every 16 minutes of the U.S., and 92 people are killed here every day with firearms, including suicides.
	Evidence that America's gun violence nightmare goes beyond the mass shootings that happen all too often.
	We get more from NBC's Peter Alexander.
	Since 2001, 153,000 Americans have been killed by gun violence, compared to 3,000 in terrorist attacks, the vast majority of those on 9-11.
	I love that terrorists don't use guns.
	Because there's clearly a difference between terrorist attacks and gun shootings.
	Terrorists don't use guns, you see, ever.
	There's no crossover in the data.
	This is the stupidest kind of argument.
	And I don't know if I want to bring this up now.
	I can bring it up later.
	I don't know how much more stuff you've got about this thing.
	Yeah, I've got some stuff.
	We've got too much stuff.
	But I want to just say, before we finish this conversation, there's one...
	I'm sorry.
	John, I'm sorry.
	The president's telling the news guys what to report.
	No, you're not doing it right.
	You have to put your lower lip out a little conversation.
	Don't go away.
	I sound like an idiot.
	Conversation.
	So, there's the one question over and over and over and over and over and over that is never asked.
	As I watch the local reports, and I watch the three-by-threes, and I watch the Democracy Now!
	Democracy Now!'s whole report was going after the sheriff.
	It was the sheriff's fault!
	That's where I came in.
	Now, I want to get to that.
	But first, I'm going to stick with your point for a moment.
	Of course, people are very bad at assessing risk, and if we really were going after the true killers, then we would be solving cancer, which I believe kills about half a million people a year.
	So there's a million ways you can tally this up.
	Well, you could also, I think you could also, if you wanted to twist the news and skew it, if everybody was all in on banning cars...
	And they just did report after report after report about the horrible deaths that happened on the road to the tune of a minimum of 40,000 a year.
	And that's my favorite argument.
	The common sense conversation regulations is just like a driver's license.
	You should make it hard.
	It's funny and crazy at the same time.
	So I read everywhere on the face page.
	Make people get a license to have a gun, and make it as hard as the driver's license, which is the funniest thing I've heard coming from Europe.
	You get a driver's license in America if you have two legs and two arms.
	If you can answer ten questions, multiple choice, right.
	Now, the amount of people who are killed by automobiles, licensed drivers, is tenfold that are killed by guns.
	And you can't throw in, which Lester Holt did in that report that he was apparently edited by Obama, you can't throw in suicides.
	That is specious bullcrap.
	Oh, I hear that all the time.
	And they always say so many people died, including suicides.
	Yeah, well, good.
	Finding someone you love hung is no good.
	This is shitty.
	Or a pool of blood.
	Well, you know, you can go out in the woods and do it.
	And I know we sound like insincere, insensitive a-holes, but this is grown-up talk for a second.
	We need to take all of the emotion out of it, if possible.
	Here's the lesbian on MSNBC. Chris Hayes, of course, is who I'm referring to.
	And he took it to a whole other level.
	Hello?
	Yeah.
	Not long ago, President Obama came to the White House briefing room to deliver a blistering response to today's events.
	One that may be remembered as one of the most powerful and angry speeches of his presidency.
	Whoa!
	Most powerful and angry speeches?
	No.
	No, he's had much more powerful and angry speeches than that.
	Powerful and angry speeches of his presidency.
	Time for action is way overdue.
	If this were a disease, if this were a virus...
	I mean, like cancer or AIDS? I don't know, something like that.
	Something else we haven't done anything about?
	Yeah, you know, what would be happening if this were a virus, a disease?
	It was killing tens of thousands of Americans?
	We would have the scientists at the National Institutes of Health.
	We would have the folks across the country at the CDC. We would have all hands on deck.
	And yet, we have this epidemic that's killing Americans, and nothing's being done.
	The Congressman mentions if this were a virus, if this were a disease.
	We, one year ago today, had the first American who got Ebola.
	And everyone can remember the scale.
	Of the response?
	Of the things?
	We remember the scale of the news coverage.
	Here comes the guy.
	Oh, he has Ebola.
	Wait a minute.
	He's just walking into the hospital.
	Wait a minute.
	My favorite one.
	That's not okay.
	What's going on?
	We're motivated to make sure that disease did not spread.
	The absolute terror that people would be stalked by Ebola.
	Ebola!
	Compare that to the way that we shrug off gun violence.
	We shrug it off.
	Don't touch a friend.
	We shrug it off.
	We shrug it off.
	Yeah.
	30,000 people a year die from flu.
	Yeah.
	Well, we do something about that.
	That's just the everyday flu.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And by the way, I want to remind people about the Ebola story.
	Remember that nurse that came back and said, no, you're going to have to be quarantined?
	She said, screw you.
	She just went bicycling around.
	No, no, no, no, John.
	She wasn't the nurse.
	She was the medical correspondent for NBC. Okay.
	Well, I thought it was a nurse.
	Okay.
	No, she's a doctor.
	Oh, she's a doctor.
	Well, she just said no.
	She knew it was bogus.
	CBS also had a report on the president's evolving anger and did a whole retrospective, which was nice.
	They put a little package together.
	It is impossible to sum up all of President Obama's intellectual and emotional reasons.
	This is Major Garrett, by the way.
	Major.
	Garrett is really getting on my nerves.
	He was on the other day because he's the guy that's going after Trump.
	Right.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Isn't he on NBC? I think this is CBS. Maybe.
	Look it up when I'm mentioning this.
	And he smirks.
	When they have this negative, I guess Scott Pelley would come on CBS and say something, and Gary would smirk.
	He's a chief White House correspondent, CBS News.
	He has a very nasty smirk.
	He does, and he's also the guy that's always challenging the president, because he's awesome.
	...to what he now views as an epidemic of mass gun violence on his watch.
	But we can start with disbelief, compassion...
	Frustration and evolving anger.
	After the Aurora, Colorado movie theater massacre, President Obama played the familiar presidential role of grief counselor.
	After Sandy Hook, a day the president called his worst in office, Mr.
	Obama struggled with the enormity of loss and for the words to help a nation cope.
	Then pro-gun rights senators killed the president's push for wider federal background checks on gun sales and limits on ammunition clips.
	Mr.
	Obama stood with Sandy Hook families in the Rose Garden and for the first time, flashed some anger.
	After the Charleston church shooting, Mr.
	Obama's patience had worn thin, even as his sense of resignation had grown.
	And yesterday, after more than a dozen statements on mass shootings here in America, the president identified a deeper, more complex dynamic behind the political paralysis.
	The president also used another word yesterday, numb.
	He fears the nation has come to accept the unimaginable, has somehow found a way to take the shock and sadness in stride.
	Charlie, for a presidency that began at least in concept around hope and change, President Obama finds little of either here.
	Give those guys the hook.
	I like the way they use pro-gun killed.
	Oh yeah, put a little...
	Those words together, that's great.
	Okay, now I'm moving into...
	Well, here's the part of the occurrence, and there's a lot of things that are...
	Messy and not understandable.
	I mean, the guy who is credited with doing this, or not credited, as it were, since the Oregon sheriff refused to, the sheriff from Oregon refused to mention his name.
	Name the three names.
	Right.
	So there's, you know, there's a YouTube channel with a guy who looks very different from the guy that is, you know, has images posted everywhere.
	And we had all kinds of People jumping on the bandwagon saying, oh, this is like 4chan and RK9 or R9K, whatever the hell it is.
	But here's the piece, and this is, I think, a father...
	Unidentified as such.
	By name, I guess.
	And a son of a wounded student.
	And I don't understand why we're not talking about this a lot more.
	Gentleman was...
	By the way, I love how he starts off with the gentleman.
	So you're talking about someone who shot your kid.
	Shot your kid.
	Wounded your kid.
	And you started by saying the gentleman.
	How do you feel about that?
	I'm thinking, you know, the bastards, what I'd say.
	The gentleman was systematically...
	But he came in, right?
	He came in, and there were gunfire immediately, and scattered the room, got everyone's attention.
	He...
	From what I understood, what she said is he shot the professor point blank, right?
	One shot, killed him, took him right out of it.
	And others had been injured.
	And then this man had enough time.
	I don't know how much time elapsed before he was able to stand there and start asking people one by one what their religion was.
	Are you a Christian?
	He would ask them and if you're a Christian stand up and they would stand up and he said good because you're a Christian you're gonna see God in just about one second and then he shot and killed them and he kept going down the line doing this to people and How much time do you need?
	And she said he had a handgun.
	It wasn't a big rifle, assault rifle or anything like this.
	This was a single handgun that he had enough ammunition and enough time to drop the magazine out of it, put another one in and continue his thing.
	How does he have that much time at a facility?
	Yeah, okay.
	I don't understand that.
	Okay, so I don't understand why we're not talking.
	Was he a jihadist?
	Was he self-radicalized?
	Why is this not the main point of conversation?
	Well, the one thing about this event that's very interesting to me is that no one focuses on anything.
	It's very scrambled.
	Yeah.
	There's this, there's that, there's the hero who somehow got shot seven times even though he was on his back and now he has two broken legs.
	I don't know how...
	Oh, big meme on the face page with that guy.
	So you have the picture of him in the hospital bed with a thumbs up sign.
	And then the caption is...
	Hey, President Obama, how about inviting him to the White House?
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	Well, here, so the Oregonian...
	That's actually a good one.
	Yeah, it is.
	The Oregonian has been doing a lot of men on the street interviews, and not just plain old people, the officials as well.
	And here's one of the college students that they interviewed, and he had something interesting to say.
	It was in a room, a square room where all the teachers gathered with all their smaller cubicles next to it and all that.
	And we hid between two desks.
	I did.
	And I was with people here and there and then desks right there.
	I just sat there and waited to see what was going on.
	And you're a hunter, you said, so you would know the sound of gunshot.
	Oh, yeah.
	You would be comfortable with that, and yet you heard nothing.
	He heard nothing at all, which is really crazy, freaky, and surprising.
	Hmm.
	What was the mood like at the theater?
	I heard that, too.
	Yeah.
	So he's a kid who's a hunter, and he didn't hear a single shot.
	Yeah, and you would have.
	But the other thing is, if you notice, is they had the first reports where this was the science building.
	And then it was some other building.
	And then when you see those cops, which I put a picture of in the newsletter, they're going into SC-1 or SC-15, some science building.
	Oh man, do you see how the guys are positioned behind each other?
	The guy behind the front guy has his muzzle aimed at his partner's head.
	I mean, it does not look like a very professional outfit.
	Yeah, that picture, something was fishy about it.
	And who took the picture?
	That's what I put in the newsletter.
	Who took the picture?
	They're very carefully hiding against the wall, and there's some guy standing out there right in front taking a picture.
	So I'm just cruising around looking to see what's going on.
	It's my job.
	It's what I do.
	It's what people support us for.
	But I'm generally not interested in trying to figure out false flag, hoax, crisis actors.
	It's tiring.
	And there was so much of it right away.
	However, I did get very interested when the story cropped up about the Douglas County Sheriff, John Hanlon, who had sent a letter to the President after the Sandy Hook shooting.
	Biden, actually.
	I'm sorry, you're right, Mr.
	Vice President of Biden.
	Have you seen the letter?
	No, but the Democracy Now!
	woman reads most of it.
	Okay.
	Well, it's in the show notes.
	But I'll just pick out the pieces that are relevant.
	I fully agree, Mr.
	Vice President, with statements made by Lynn County Sheriff Tim Mueller.
	In a recent letter he sent you, he stated, quote, In the wake of recent criminal events, politicians are attempting to exploit the deaths of innocent victims by advocating for laws that would prevent honest, law-abiding Americans from possessing certain firearms and ammunition magazines.
	We are Americans.
	We must not allow, nor shall we tolerate...
	The actions of criminals, no matter how heinous the crimes, to prompt politicians to enact laws that will infringe upon the liberties of responsible citizens who have broken no laws.
	And so it's a very strongly worded letter.
	And this came, now this was sent in, let's see, January 15th of 2013.
	So all of a sudden this letter, boom, boom, oh, here's this letter.
	Yeah, I found that fishy.
	Well, I'll go beyond fishy.
	It seems to me that there was quite a trail that I found, which I'll get into.
	Certainly the political fallout from the event, if not the event itself, I'll say it, seems to have been targeted at not just this sheriff, but a number of sheriffs around the country who have said, hey, no matter what you federalis say, we're going to abide by the Constitution down here, or up here, I guess, would be Oregon.
	Just imagine if this was Texas.
	It would have been so much more fun.
	Because then we could say racial a-holes, cocksuckers.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm doing it again.
	So instead, CNN comes out full force, and we start with the Cuomo kid who was badgering the sheriff.
	And, you know, you've in the past said, gun laws aren't the answer.
	I'm not even going to enforce them.
	You wrote a letter to Joe Biden saying, I won't enforce any more gun laws because they're infringement of constitutional rights.
	What do you believe the line is?
	Again, Chris, I want to stay focused on completing this investigation and focus on the families of the victims.
	Properly.
	The discussion over firearms and control of firearms will occur, and I'll dime in at a later time, but now is not that time.
	I liked how he said dime in.
	I'm not sure.
	Right, yeah, dime in.
	What does that mean?
	Did he mean dive in, dial in?
	I think he either means chime in or dive in.
	Yeah, it was a combo between dive and chime.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I'll dime in.
	Dime in.
	I'll dime in on that.
	Families of the victims are going to ask for this to not happen again.
	You're going to learn this there firsthand.
	Those of us who cover these have learned it dozens of times.
	That's what they're going to want.
	Please don't let this happen again.
	Please don't let someone else be taken this way.
	Mental health is going to come up in what we do about it.
	Guns are going to come up.
	And whether or not there's any law that could have stopped this.
	In your mind, do you believe that we're a law away from this not having happened?
	A law away.
	Nice.
	I totally hear you on that.
	That's a good one, isn't it?
	It's something we observe very scrupulously every time, and I say every time because I've been to more of these and I've probably been to anything else when it comes to news coverage.
	But I do think it is respecting the families.
	I do think it is part of the healing process because what they want most is to not see this again.
	What do you think of what President Obama just said, that we are fooling ourselves and we're not caring about each other if we continue to ignore the role of guns in these crimes?
	Well, respectfully, Chris, I'm just not going to get involved in the gun debate at this point.
	All right, look, why am I pushing you on this, Sheriff?
	Yeah, why?
	It's not because I don't want to respect the victims.
	It's because you've weighed in on it on the past.
	And I want to know if your perspective is different now that you're knee-deep in one of these situations than just being someone who's seeing it from abroad.
	All right, so then here's the trail that I hit.
	I hit it first in Time magazine.
	Douglas County Sheriff John Hanlon, who has responded to the Umpqua Community College shooting, previously shared a conspiracy theory video suggesting the Sandy Hook massacre was orchestrated by the U.S. government to disarm the public.
	And they point to a New York Times article who go into great depth about the letter that he sent to Biden and about the video.
	And I should mention, which you didn't catch apparently, because it was only obscure and it was only on Democracy Now!
	He gave testimony before the legislative branch.
	Oh, I didn't know that.
	I wish I had.
	When you play the Democracy Now!
	clip, you'll hear him.
	Should I play that now?
	Yeah, it's kind of interesting because it gives a little more perspective, I think.
	Yeah, which one is it?
	This would be, it's the Sheriff's Fault, DN, under the UCC collection.
	I got it.
	it okay hold on furthermore i don't know how i can at least in my county begin to try to enforce this law um being a timber which which law was this they were trying to pass a gun law a gun registration gun registration okay that has to be apparently the way the law is written the sheriff's department has to check out everybody who buys a gun oh okay
	Being a timber harvest dependent county such as we are, our budget is continuously shrinking to the point that there are times when we have a difficult time simply responding to domestic disturbances, vehicle crashes, the ordinary calls for service that happen every day.
	To expect local law enforcement to run down and do an investigation into whether or not a private individual has conducted a background check is nearly impossible.
	I urge you to consider this bill closely and to not pass it.
	Do we just play the whole thing?
	Yeah, you might as well, because there's a little fall.
	Okay, good.
	It simply isn't going to work for us.
	That was Douglas County Sheriff John Hanlon earlier this year.
	But in 2013, and remember he's the person now investigating the shooting at Umpqua Community College.
	He wrote a letter to Vice President Joe Biden.
	In the letter, he asked the Vice President not to tamper with the Second Amendment, writing, quote, gun control is not the answer to preventing heinous crimes like school shootings.
	Any actions against or in disregard for our U.S. Constitution and Second Amendment rights by the current administration would be irresponsible and an indisputable insult to the American people.
	He goes on to say, quote, I will not violate my constitutional oath.
	Therefore, the second purpose of this letter is to make notification that any federal regulation enacted by Congress or by executive order of the president offending the constitutional rights of my citizens shall not be enforced by me or by my deputies, nor will I permit the enforcement of any unconstitutional regulations or orders by federal officers within the borders of Douglas County, Oregon.
	Your response to the sheriff and his stance in the past on this issue of greater or more expanded gun control?
	Sheriff Hanlon forgets that common sense and reasonable, moderate gun safety regulations have in fact been held up as constitutional, first of all, repeatedly.
	And secondly, he forgets that as a law enforcement officer, his first duty is to protect the people of Douglas County.
	You know what I found interesting when I was talking to Tina about the term common sense, which...
	It's a term that has been coined, recoined, I should say, by the Obama administration.
	But the origin of the term common sense comes from a pamphlet written by, we've discussed this on the show, a pamphlet written by Thomas Paine in 1775, and I'm quoting from the Book of Knowledge, that inspired people in the 13 colonies to declare and fight for independence from Great Britain in the summer of 1776.
	The pamphlet was called Common Sense.
	It explained the advantages of and the need for immediate independence in clear, simple language.
	So, taking into account that when the president and his administration uses words like deconfliction and use very specific terms in specific instances, I don't think it's a mistake that the term common sense regulation is brought up because it literally, literally...
	Refers to our war for independence with guns.
	It's not a coincidence.
	We would still be working for the British if it wasn't for guns.
	Yeah, it's a mind trick.
	Anyway, so continuing...
	With that, I told you about the New York Times, and again, they talk about here, three days before that letter was released, Mr.
	Hanlon shared a link on his personal Facebook page to a YouTube video, which suggested the shootings at Sandy Hook and the attacks of September 11th may have been staged by the federal government to provide a pretext for disarming the public.
	The sheriff did this?
	This is, yes, yes!
	This is, by the way, the find of the day.
	Because I never ran into that because I'm not on the face pages.
	Okay, so I... Now, let me go down a little bit more.
	Then we go to Mother Jones.
	We've already discussed long how these...
	For a long time, how these types of news organizations are funded.
	So Mother Jones has the same thing.
	The month after December 2012, Sandy Hook massacre, Sheriff John Hanlon of Douglas County, Oregon posted a video called The Sandy Hook Shooting Fully Exposed to His Personal Facebook Page.
	The video makes a number of conspiratorial claims, including about there being more than one shooter and that the grieving parents who appeared on the news report were acting.
	Okay, then we go down, there's a link.
	And that particular video, of course, which he didn't produce, it's kind of unclear there.
	Yeah.
	It's one of the many videos that came out.
	It's a good video.
	I know which video it is.
	It's a very good video.
	Is that the one that's narrated by the woman?
	Yes, I believe so.
	Yeah, it's an outstanding product.
	Put a link in the show notes.
	Oh yeah, it's all in there.
	So Mother Jones refers to Think Progress.
	Now, Think Progress, now of course, now we Think Progress, they're the ones that have funded the Mothers Against Guns and all of this stuff.
	And they say today a rather credulous Associated Press article reports on a movement to replace local sheriffs with proponents of particularly virulent form of tenterism.
	There it is.
	There's a term I don't think we've heard yet.
	Tentherism.
	For Tenth Amendment?
	For Tenth Amendment, yes.
	The retired police officer and investment advisor intends to make that a reality, joining at least a dozen candidates in other states running for office on an independent, oh no, on an interpretation of the Constitution they say means the sheriff is the highest law enforcer in the land, even above federal agents.
	Time for you to once again explain briefly the role of the sheriff in the United States.
	Because all people think of is John Wayne, Gunsmoke.
	What is the role of the sheriff in American law enforcement and politics?
	Well, I don't know that the sheriff, which is really that consistent from area to area, but generally, I can tell you what they do, what they're here in the Bay Area, generally speaking, the sheriff is an elected official.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yes, I think that's the same pretty much everywhere.
	And he also usually, the area that they cover is not like a city.
	It's usually a wider area.
	Because most of California is mostly not cities.
	It's unincorporated areas that have to have some policing.
	And the sheriff, that's their job.
	They are the guy on the horse that's roaming around the middle of nowhere trying to make sure...
	What kind of political or legal power do they have?
	Is that different everywhere as well?
	This I don't really know.
	I'm sure it is.
	It has to be proscribed by the state constitution.
	I would think.
	So...
	I mean, we must have some sheriffs that listen to our show.
	Oh, we're going to get...
	And by the way, and I've asked a bunch of...
	Like, last time I was in Las Vegas, I've talked about this on the show once before, I ran into a...
	There was a protest going on and a bunch of cops standing around, so I've started...
	You went, hey!
	I did.
	I went up to him, I said, can you explain to me what the difference, because the constable was rolling around.
	Yes, we have that as well in Austin.
	We have a constable in addition to the sheriff, yes.
	So I saw the constable go by, and then I asked the Las Vegas guys what the difference between the Las Vegas police, the sheriff's department, and the constable, mainly because I wanted to find out what the constable actually did.
	And it was explained to me again that the sheriff has a jurisdiction in Las Vegas, but they don't do much there.
	They try to keep their...
	But there's a separate agency from the local police.
	And the constable is a guy who just hands out warrants.
	He goes from door to door and eviction notices the way the guy described it.
	Well, so this trail...
	And remember, these articles all link to each other.
	They're all referencing each other.
	Yeah, there's one common point of origin for this crap against the sheriff.
	Yes, but this was from the Associated Press.
	The article focuses...
	The reporters probably got called by one of these big progress guys.
	But let's go through the whole thing.
	So we've already heard the term tenterism.
	The article focuses almost exclusively on three aspects of...
	An organized nationwide movement called the Oath Keepers.
	Oh, please.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	So they're saying now, I'll just abbreviate, that the Oath Keepers, the sheriffs, and there's a national movement to get Oath Keepers into positions of power as sheriffs.
	Absent from the article, however, says Think Progress, an extremely left-wing outfit.
	Absence from the article, however, is a discussion of the Oath Keeper's overactive fantasy life.
	The Oath Keeper's website is riddled with paranoid rhetoric about government officials disarming the American people, confiscating the property of the American people, including food and other supplies, and blockading American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.
	So from there we go to another article, also on ThinkProgress.
	Douglas County Sheriff John Hanlon, who's overseeing much of the law enforcement response to Thursday's tragic shooting, believes some highly unusual things about gun rights and the Constitution.
	And again, they go into the video posted, etc., etc., etc.
	Now...
	His YouTube page, it does look like that video was on his YouTube page, although it has been removed.
	And who knows if it's his YouTube page.
	But he was asked point blank about this Sandy Hook video.
	Thrust onto the national stage after the massacre at Umpqua Community College, Douglas County Sheriff John Hanlon talks tough and isn't afraid to share his opinion.
	I will not name the shooter.
	I will not give him the credit he probably sought prior to this horrific and cowardly act.
	His stance on the shooter cheered by many.
	But some of his other beliefs are putting him smack dab in the middle of the fight over gun control.
	Notice the beliefs term here.
	His other beliefs.
	Beliefs.
	A letter he sent to Vice President Joe Biden one month after the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary, one of the deadliest in American history, gives everyone a good look at his unwavering stance on gun control.
	It says in part, gun control is not the answer to preventing heinous crimes like school shootings.
	But now a mass shooting has hit him at home.
	So we asked him about his thoughts as the entire country asks, why is this happening in America yet again?
	And what will stop it?
	Can you talk to me about your stance on the fact that you feel like gun control is not a potential answer?
	I understand your interest in that, and I can appreciate that you have an interest in my position.
	But like I've said a number of times this morning, we are focusing on getting this investigation completed.
	But he did talk to us a bit about a controversial post on his Facebook page that is also getting attention now.
	Long before the Umpqua College shooting, he reposted a viral video.
	That video delves into conspiracy theories involving the Sandy Hook shooting.
	It goes as far as to question whether...
	There's no theories.
	There's no theories.
	It wasn't theories.
	Yeah, that video just had a bunch of outward...
	It had facts.
	Yeah.
	Anomalies as facts, yes.
	It goes as far as to question whether some of the grieving parents were crisis actors.
	He writes, this makes me wonder who we can trust anymore, and goes on to say, watch, listen, and keep an open mind.
	Or did you post it?
	No.
	You didn't post it?
	No, no.
	I know what you're referring to.
	Yeah, we're just trying to clear that.
	That's not a conspiracy theory belief that I have.
	Okay, now I like that little bit.
	So he's saying, I know what you're referring to.
	I didn't post it.
	That's not a conspiracy theory I subscribe to, or I believe in.
	So, just hearing him say that, and you know, something on your Facebook page, wall, face page thing, it could be posted, someone can put it on your timeline, it can look like you posted it.
	In fact, I sometimes re-share an article And people will say, wow, Curry, that's a good one.
	Like, I came up with it, but I didn't.
	I just re-shared it.
	So people don't even see that it's been re-shared anymore.
	And he says, no, I didn't do that.
	That's not what I subscribe to.
	So the way I see this, regardless of the event, it is being used to take down these sheriffs who are tentherisms or tenthers.
	I don't know if we have a word for them yet.
	But who believe in something crazy like upholding the Constitution.
	Luckily, the Oregonian...
	Or the Tenth Amendment.
	And it's important, by the way, especially in Oregon, to have that attitude because the feds will come in because of the marijuana laws that were repealed in Oregon.
	It's legal to smoke dope in Oregon.
	On the same day, I might add, on October 1st, pot became legal in Oregon.
	Well, that's another coincidence I missed.
	A big, big coincidence.
	Now, the Oregonian does a lot of cool little local things.
	The production is shit, but they do put it on their news website.
	Here they are with a local report from the Oregonian on Sheriff John Hanlon.
	You know, there's been a lot written about your own viewpoints.
	Yeah, you know what?
	My viewpoints are my...
	Political perspectives on Second Amendment rights and gun control have nothing to do with this.
	It has nothing to do with this.
	It doesn't, correct.
	It doesn't.
	The guy's trying to do his job.
	He's a professional.
	I mean, what, you can't have an opinion?
	To ensure the safety of the public here.
	And we have this horrific crime that we're challenged with investigating and trying to find out as many of the answers that we can.
	The gun control issue has no role in this.
	Yeah, he's absolutely right.
	Now, the final clip I have is, again, from the Oregonian.
	And it appears, as they once again talk to the sheriff, who's just hanging out by his car door about to get in, and they're leaning over a fence or something and just talking to him.
	He's so casual.
	And if you listen to what he says, they've cut him out.
	He has nothing to do with this investigation.
	He is sidelined.
	Go stand over there behind the yellow line, behind your car, and shut up.
	He initiated an exchange of gunfire with the police.
	They returned gunfire in his direction as he retreated kind of back into a point of cover and the gunfire ended.
	And as they approached the classroom, they found him laying in the hallway outside the classroom.
	At some point, and I'm unclear exactly when or even why, he came out of the classroom.
	there engaged him but was he outside the building i've heard i've heard only heard through through witness accounts that you all you know the presses develop is that that he went outside and and when you hear this the guy he he has no inside information He's like, well, I saw what you guys have put together.
	This guy's completely sidelined.
	He's even trying to draw diagrams at a certain point to help the reporter understand the layout of the classroom versus the teacher cubicles.
	He's not in this investigation.
	He's not involved.
	Classmate.
	He held the door so he couldn't get back in.
	Did you hear that?
	Chris, the man who was really wounded pretty bad.
	I think he was in the second classroom, the adjacent classroom and he was holding the door so he wouldn't go into that adjacent classroom.
	So it sounds like he had...
	Yeah, it sounds like he had come out and was going to go into the adjacent classroom, and that's about the time the police officers got there.
	This is just an assumption.
	But the shootout, the shooting was...
	I mean, the officers are outside by their car, and he is...
	Just outside the door, the front.
	But then now he's drawing diagrams and stuff.
	The guy, I'm not going to play anymore, but the guy clearly knows nothing at this point about the investigation.
	He says, okay, this is where the shootout occurred.
	The shootout that the student we heard earlier didn't hear any gunfire at all.
	That's crazy.
	Well, the one thing that, I mean, the whole thing is somewhat baffling.
	Like here, play this clip.
	The student nobody saw is one of them.
	Okay.
	Oops.
	Religion before he opened fire.
	He later died following a shootout with police.
	These students live in the same complex as the shooter, but say they've never seen him before.
	It was scary when you first heard about the shooting.
	Like, obviously, that's your school, your community.
	But it's different when you find out that he lived next door to you.
	Good one.
	But also, there was, of course, a planned drill.
	The same day, not only did the county fire department have almost all its resources less than six miles from the community college when the shooting happened, they also had extra ambulances from a city an hour and a half away, ready to go.
	Okay.
	That's nice.
	That's always so annoying when that happens.
	So...
	And by the way, the FBI was involved.
	They got there.
	They were there immediately.
	They were there pretty quickly, but I tried to follow the timeline.
	And the shooting started at 1030.
	And I could not find any references to the FBI being there before 1.
	And it does take...
	three hours from Portland, which is where their headquarters are.
	So that seems to be a legitimate thing because you go red lights and siren on the freeway, you're doing 80.
	You can get there two and a half hours.
	Anyway, go on.
	Yeah.
	Well, so in summary...
	Wait, one more thing.
	Somebody reported that there was two U.S. Marshals at the school at the time.
	Yeah, I didn't hear about that.
	And I could not find any references to that.
	I asked for the links.
	I do want to play one clip, though.
	Sure.
	This was the local news report, and this came...
	The clip was from late yesterday, so this is two days, two and a half days after the event.
	And this brings in the timeline and also brings in new information.
	But if you think of the timeline and listen to this report, this is the last information of how the guy killed himself.
	And we are learning new details tonight about the deadly college shooting in Oregon.
	Investigators say the gunman, Chris Harper Mercer, shot and killed himself after exchanging gunfire with police.
	A newly released timeline shows the shooter was down 10 minutes after the first call to 911.
	Police also recovered an additional gun from the suspect's home, bringing the total number of firearms to 14.
	He reportedly singled out his victims based on their religion.
	Yeah, there it is.
	Now, if he's dead 10 minutes after the 911 call, which means he killed himself as the police arrived, or I guess the police arrived and started to exchange, because the police claim that they were there in 8 to 10 minutes.
	The sheriff said that.
	Well, they were standing nearby for the drill, obviously.
	Yeah.
	If you're six miles away and you go red lights and siren, you can get there in eight minutes easy.
	So the way I view this, and I just have to stay away from the false flag, hoax, crisis actors, and I believe that that is being spurred And probably the share of the Facebook video about Sandy Hook, that's part of it, to get everyone all crazy talking about that.
	Meanwhile, what's really going on, and this is where it will lead, and we must, in the United States of Gibbon Nation, we must reject the notion that That somehow, with legislation, laws, we are going to keep guns out of hands of crazy people.
	First, you have to define what is crazy.
	And then you have to prove it.
	You cannot have lists of people with their degree of crazy on it.
	You just can't have that.
	They would love that.
	Yeah, but I'm telling you, what happens next is when you probably shouldn't drive, really.
	Oh, Mr.
	Curry, first of all, you have Tourette's.
	There's a lot of swearing we hear on your podcast.
	Yeah, you know, the twitches, it's a little daunting, and we know you're seeing a therapist.
	We're going to have to take your trailer.
	No, you live in the trailer.
	We're taking your apartment.
	We're evicting you from the apartment.
	We're going to evict you from the apartment and take your trailer.
	Because, you know, we have a lot of UT college students in your building.
	Here's a shopping cart for you.
	Yes.
	And really, you know, you shouldn't be anywhere.
	You should not live anywhere, like, within 10 miles of a school.
	Yeah, we think Wyoming, where you recently were, there's a lot of space out there.
	We think that would be good for you to go live.
	No.
	The true answer to this, which I have not heard the president say or anyone, any other politician, is take it to a vote.
	Let's repeal the Second Amendment.
	We're a nation of laws.
	I'm down with that.
	We're a nation of laws.
	Oh, by the way, I would also be okay.
	You want to amend the Second Amendment and say you have the right to bear arms as long as they're muskets?
	Okay, put that in then.
	It seems that everybody agrees.
	Everybody wants to have the conversation.
	Everybody wants common sense of ours.
	So go ahead, put it in.
	Have a vote.
	And if the majority of the country says no, then as a nation of laws and a democracy...
	We stand status quo.
	It's that simple.
	There is a very simple, very well-defined path to changing this.
	And I'll be the first to say, I would probably still stay here in America if the Second Amendment were repealed.
	It's still a great country.
	But that is the simple path.
	I think that's a good point for people to make.
	Now, there's two points I come away with.
	One...
	The big question that was never asked on any of these reports, and will never be asked, especially on the big three, the networks, what drugs was he on?
	Oh, well, of course.
	Well, his nickname was Lithium.
	His online nickname.
	Yeah, his nickname was Lithium, which is funny.
	But you know there was other things involved.
	We don't know what the hell he was on, and no one's going to tell us.
	He was on drugs.
	It's drugs that are creating these maniacs.
	If you look at every one of these screwballs that was accused of all these different episodes, the guy in the theater, you know, the bug with the red hair and his crazy eyes, and the kid is supposedly the Sandy Hook guy who is nuts, you know, gun nut and everything else and crazy and nobody knew what he's doing.
	Nice kid.
	Yeah.
	Well, for instance, I picked up another drug commercial.
	And this is Tueho.
	Tueho.
	Yeah, two a-holes.
	I saw this one too.
	It wasn't as good as the one I had, but it's got nothing to do with crazy drugs.
	The one you have is a bipolar drug, if I'm not mistaken.
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	Don't change your dose or type of insulin without talking to your doctor.
	Tell your doctor if you take other medicines and about all your medical conditions.
	Tugeo may cause serious side effects like heart failure that can lead to death.
	Taking pills called TZDs, thiazolidinediones with Tugeo may cause heart failure, even if you've never had heart failure before.
	Don't dilute or mix to jail with other insulins or solutions, as it may not work as intended and you may lose blood sugar control, which could be serious.
	Ask your doctor about Tejeo.
	What has this got to do, though?
	I'm sorry.
	I messed it up.
	I thought that this was the one where you could pass out or become confused.
	I think you're right.
	I think it's Latuda is the one, I think.
	Might be.
	I have probably clips of most of these, but the one about the bipolar...
	I have Latuda here.
	I have the commercial.
	Play Latuda.
	I'm sorry.
	It was my mistake.
	Here we go.
	This is the one we want.
	If you're struggling with bipolar depression, there are treatment options.
	Ask your doctor if once a day Latuda, loracidone HCL, may help you.
	In clinical studies, Latuda has been shown to be effective for many people struggling with bipolar depression.
	Latuda is not for everyone.
	Call your doctor if you have unusual changes in mood, behaviors, or thoughts of suicide.
	Antidepressants can increase these in children, teens, and young adults.
	Ah, that's prime market, huh?
	In children, teens, and young adults.
	Prime market.
	You can become a little nutty from the two.
	We have to do more on this.
	But this question is never asked.
	Can we just finish this commercial?
	It's really worth it.
	Oh, I thought you stopped it.
	Well, just to make a comment.
	Here we go.
	Elderly dementia patients taking Latuda have an increased risk of death or stroke.
	Call your doctor if you have fever, stiff muscles, and confusion, as these are signs of a life-threatening reaction.
	Or if you have uncontrollable muscle movements, as these may become permanent.
	High blood sugar has been reported with Latuda and medicines like it.
	And in some cases, extreme high blood sugar can lead to coma or death.
	Well, take that other drug.
	Other risks include decreases in white blood cells, which can be fatal, dizziness upon standing, seizures, increased cholesterol, weight gain, increased prolactin levels, impairment in judgment, or trouble swallowing.
	Avoid grapefruit and grapefruit juice while taking Latuda.
	Oh, no.
	Use caution before driving or operating machinery.
	That's funny.
	There are paths to treat bipolar depression.
	Ask your doctor if once a day Latuda for bipolar depression is right.
	So those are all the disclaimers.
	You may become confused.
	You may have poor judgment, especially in young adults.
	All these drugs do all this stuff, and these guys are loaded up on these drugs.
	Many of them started at a young age.
	This is not discussed in any of the reporting about these mass shooters.
	And it's only during the last, like somebody pointed out, in fact, I think it was Juan Gonzalez who pointed out, I think he's got a little history here, I might even have it.
	Juan Gonzalez.
	Who's Juan Gonzalez again?
	Juan Gonzalez is the guy.
	The NPR was fired?
	Yeah.
	Here, play this...
	Well, here's the one that really gets to me, this stupid statement.
	This is Juan Gonzalez on Democracy Now!
	are now making stupid statements. - Jennifer Lynch, next year will mark really the 50th anniversary of the first mass killings in modern American history.
	There was Richard Speck who shot and killed eight nurses in 1966, and then a few weeks later, Charles Whitmore climbed to the tower of the University of Texas at Austin and killed, I think it was 12 or 13 people. - Ah, the good old days in Austin.
	Wounded 32.
	But we're seeing now, in the last year, a shooting, one of these mass shootings every day on average.
	So are we losing the battle here to be able to contain the proliferation of guns in America?
	Did you hear what he said?
	Say it.
	We're having one of these every day.
	Yeah, every day.
	Well, yes, every day there's a mass shooting, which is three or more.
	No.
	This is the meme.
	I don't care what the meme is.
	I looked at the numbers.
	It's not happening every day.
	No, it's not.
	Even if you count it as a shooting so three people get injured.
	No, it's not every day.
	You can't make it every day.
	You can say, yeah, there's a shooting.
	Some poor black kid was murdered by somebody in Oakland just in a drive-by.
	Oh, there it is.
	Yeah, I guess you can count that every day in Oakland.
	That's not even covered because those are black people.
	Who cares?
	We don't care about that in the media.
	It's black people killing black people.
	We can't do anything with that.
	Next.
	That's no good.
	No one cares.
	A guy killing Christians?
	We don't care.
	The other thing that is a question unanswered to me, and I put it in the newsletter, they seem to be encouraging, and I said that we're probably not going to go into the conspiracy aspects of this or what might be a false flag or whatever.
	I agree with you on that, because it's not doable anymore.
	It doesn't make any difference.
	It doesn't help.
	And it doesn't do, right, it doesn't, and...
	Let me just say to that.
	It doesn't matter if it was a false flag.
	It doesn't matter.
	What is being done with the event is what matters.
	That's the only way to back into anything being done on purpose or not.
	That is the only way.
	And there'll be plenty of YouTube guys out there, a few of them pretty good, that will discuss this in great detail in that regard.
	Now, I also mentioned in the newsletter, I suggested that...
	Is it possible that the idea of creating these events for the purposes of bringing out the nut balls out of the woodwork...
	It's a self-fulfilling prophecy, almost.
	So you can keep going on and on about all conspiracies.
	Oh, it's a conspiracy nut.
	Oh, the sheriff was a conspiracy nut.
	Because he put that, he's a conspiracy nut.
	In fact, maybe conspiracy nuts shouldn't have guns.
	It all boils down to me in the end, either way, doesn't it?
	I think it's just a big plan to get rid of me.
	It's about you paranoid freak.
	What drugs have they given you?
	I wish!
	Get me some of those groovy drugs.
	Yeah.
	So, in conclusion, or concluding for me, in conclusion, there is going to be, I believe, some kind of massive...
	We'll just call it an attack on sheriffs and the Oath Keepers and people who read the Constitution in literal sense, the way it's written.
	There's a war on crazy, and that's the dangerous one.
	That is really dangerous, and you can bring in things like hate speech, which is speech and is protected regardless of whether it's hateful or not.
	We have libel laws, and we have slander laws, and we have things to take care of, certain things you can't say about somebody, but taking it to the level of we need to have a list, and we need to integrate this list, which will come from your electronic health and we need to integrate this list, which will come from your electronic health records And it's lovely having Tina around because she's very open to, and she totally comes from Obama bot territory.
	No doubt.
	She'll be the first to admit it.
	When I say, you know, if you've ever seen a therapist and your insurance paid for it, you're going to be on that list.
	Oh, yeah.
	Unless, you know, there may be some avenue for you to travel where your therapist can say, well, he's not dangerous.
	You know, we've only talked about, you know, his anger for his ex-wife.
	Oh, gee.
	Oh, yeah.
	He should be on the list, I think.
	Yeah.
	And you know the other funny coincidence is they always make a big point out of legally obtained.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's all these mass murders.
	Oh, they got the gun legally.
	Oh, he got the gun legally.
	Oh, here's the guy who bought the gun for him.
	So if he got the gun through any other mechanism, which I think could easily be the case with many of these stories.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, because it kills their argument about, oh, you have to make ownership more difficult.
	Exactly.
	You can go buy a gun quite easily from the black market.
	In Texas, when you purchase a weapon, a firearm from a dealer, then it's all jovial and we're all good and we're hanging out.
	All right, I don't need your credit card yet.
	I just got to go make a call.
	It's 5 to 20 minutes and they've done a background check on you.
	Is this not everywhere in all 50 states?
	No.
	There's some states that are wide open.
	How about Oregon?
	How about Oregon?
	I don't know what Oregon's law is.
	I do know Vermont has absolutely zero gun control.
	That's Bernie Sanders.
	Yeah, let me see.
	Oregon gun laws.
	There's a watchdog group that keeps an eye on all these laws.
	I think Oregon is strict.
	Yeah, looks like they have a lot of...
	Okay, August 11th, 2015.
	The political fight over where the Oregon should have universal gun.
	Oh, universal.
	So the loophole, of course, is if I give you my gun, if I sell you my gun, which you can't stop.
	It's like saying we need to stop encryption.
	No, that's not going to happen.
	The only way it works, people, then I'm all for the vote.
	Is repeal the Second Amendment.
	I'm all for it.
	Let's raise our hands.
	Someone of our producers want to have some fun.
	Grab this Today Show and grab all of Curry's comments about repealing the Second Amendment and piece it together so it sounds like he's advocating it.
	I am advocating it.
	You want to repeal the Second Amendment?
	No, I'm sorry.
	I'm advocating a vote on repealing the Second Amendment.
	Now they've got another clip.
	It's me saying...
	I am advocating it.
	I'm telling you.
	Hey, man.
	It'll be hilarious.
	Hey, stop that.
	We will play it.
	Stop that.
	Oh, man.
	We can twist things just as good as anyone.
	Are you...
	Are you done with this?
	I'm done with this.
	We'll learn more in the coming weeks, but the things to look out for...
	We'll revisit.
	You know what we should have?
	We should have a conversation about it.
	Yeah.
	That's a conversation right here.
	And with that, I'd like to thank you very much for your courage to say in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak with the C stands for conversation.
	Well, in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry, also in the morning to Mr.
	Ships at Sea, Mr.
	Boots on the Ground, Mr.
	Subs in the Water, also all the Mr.
	Dames and all the Mr.
	Knights out there.
	In the morning to everybody in the chat room, noagendastream.com.
	Some people have already been punished, I see.
	You can't have a conversation about anything with the chat room going crazy.
	In the morning to Matt Hamilton, also known as AtEriner on the tweeters and I believe also in the chat room, who pulled off something I do not believe we've seen yet.
	Okay.
	He not only created the artwork...
	Oh yes, yes.
	For episode 761.
	He also created a jingle used in episode 761, and I shall play said jingle for you right now, which I liked very much.
	I thought it was a good little dip.
	Caliphate!
	The Caliphate!
	That is why we've all died of Caliphate!
	Now, when we went to choose the album art, there was the Brady Bunch art, and we're like, oh, this is perfect, fits right in.
	And then we saw that it was the same producer who had done this, and I'm thinking, what we need next is the hat trick.
	You have a jingle, you have the artwork that's chosen, and you provide the clip of the day.
	Then you have the hat trick.
	No agenda hat trick.
	I think anything is possible, really.
	No, that's too much work.
	It's not possible.
	The hat trick has to be something easier than a clip of the day.
	That's an arbitrary thing.
	Okay, then what should it be?
	I don't know.
	What else do we do on the show besides the jingles and the artwork?
	Instant night.
	Okay, if you're...
	Yes, that's it.
	You do a jingle, you do the artwork, and you become an instant night.
	Prizes and fun await you!
	Now you're talking.
	Let's thank some of our executive and associate executive producers, John.
	Well, we can start by thanking an Insta Knight, coincidentally.
	Paul D'Annunzio, who has been corresponding back and forth.
	I don't know if he really has a note, but he's been corresponding back and forth with me saying he's going to send a check in, and he did.
	So I can read whatever I can read.
	He was irked about the recent twit incident, and then he goes on a little rant there.
	No agenda fans should do the same.
	My wife thinks I'm a cynical prick as of late, which is proof that I've been listening carefully and appreciate your work.
	I don't know if that's what we're trying to do.
	I don't know if that's really...
	I don't know if that's good.
	Cynical prick.
	Mm-hmm.
	I apologize for not paying my fair share for the privilege, and I hope to make it up now and in the future.
	If either of you are ever in New York, by the way, I'd be glad to have you as a guest at the meetup someplace for a drink or three.
	Thanks for all you do.
	Yes.
	It's going to be Sir Paul of good guys.
	Yes, and I will take you up on that.
	There will be an East Coast I Love Laundry tour.
	And he said, if you have to get your ring...
	You go to noagendanation.com slash ring.
	Yes, ring Z. And then when you receive it, tweet it.
	Karma is all any of us needs.
	Please send it out to you and all the listeners.
	All right, thank you.
	You've got karma.
	All right.
	Oh, sorry.
	I'm just reading the letter again.
	Sir Adam Johnson in Plymouth, Minnesota.
	33333.
	And he writes in a little note.
	Hey, John and Adam, thank you both for all you do in creating the best podcast in the universe.
	This statement can't be said enough times.
	With this donation, I'm celebrating three things.
	My third anniversary of being a no-agenda night with my 33rd birthday, October 4th.
	Is he on the list?
	He appears to be on the list.
	I will double-check.
	And if my calculations are correct, my 3X or Baron level status is B-O-R something.
	If I could, he's got Baron, B-A-R-R-E-N, which I just think is funny.
	Baron of the Bourbon Barrel Stout.
	If I could, I would like my baron to be the baron to be the baron.
	And he has a birthday, he said?
	Hold on.
	He says his birthday on the 4th.
	Yes.
	Yes, yes, yes, we have it.
	33's for everyone.
	Keep up the outstanding work.
	Sir Adam Johnson in Plymouth, Minnesota.
	33.
	That's the magic number.
	It's the magic number.
	You've got karma.
	Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.
	Brandon Rogers in Springville, Utah, 210-26.
	He'll be the associate executive producer for show 762.
	Since I've become a listener, I've enjoyed new human resource karmas, house selling and buying karma, and multiple job karmas.
	Excellent.
	He's on a roll!
	It is now time to settle my debts and start donating because I'm cheap.
	I've been waiting for another two-for-one producer credit.
	And this is one of them.
	He gets a 2-10-26, which is a 10-26 producer credit, which I mentioned as for the 8th anniversary show, which is coming in October 20th.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	How does that work?
	Oh, because 2-10-20.
	Yes, yes, yes.
	This is a double producer credit.
	I get it.
	Yes.
	And so the other guy who wants to be a double producer, so he'll be producer on this show and on the last show of October, which will be our anniversary, Jason McKinney in Sugar Land, Texas, 210-26.
	Thank you for your courage.
	At the local county fair this afternoon, I felt on my Apple Watch the newsletter.
	I had to stop and read.
	I'm enjoying some barbecue and a funnel cake and made my donation to become an associate executive producer.
	I miss the other make-goods, and I hope I'm no longer a douchebag.
	Give me a de-douching.
	Well, okay, de-douching, here we go.
	You've been de-douched.
	Don't stop the newsletter.
	It gets me psyched for the best podcast in the universe.
	Plus, the cat pics are dynamite.
	Can I get an out of my vagina and calm down scream?
	I think it would be a good combo.
	And then I'll add to that Brandon's...
	He wants another job karma.
	Oh, yeah.
	Get out of my vagina!
	Calm down.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	There we go.
	Woo!
	Excellent.
	I guess it's Phagia Vallis and Ray.
	I'm guessing Phagia.
	No, I say Phagia with an R. Phagia Interray, New South Wales.
	Phagia Vallis and Ray.
	$203.33.
	Is this the right one?
	It says, I hope oil prices come up soon.
	No, I have...
	In the morning, John and Adam, this is my first donation to the best podcast in the universe, and so I humbly request a de-douching, which we're happy to comply with.
	You've been de-douched.
	The high levels of sanity I've enjoyed since tuning into No Agenda is simply magic.
	M-A-J-I-K. Keep up the great work, and please...
	Sen.
	That's where it ended.
	All right, and finally, Sir 10 CFR 50 Appendix B, also known as Stu Rushing.
	What was that again?
	What was that 10 CFR 50?
	It's some law that he...
	He's a bureaucrat.
	He's in Corvallis, Oregon, $200, and he'll be an associate executive producer, and he sent in a note.
	Sorry guys, sorry for not donating the past couple of months, but I needed to take a couple of short holidays from work.
	Being an hourly played nuclear contractor, that meant less discretionary income.
	Anyway, I'm back to the 45 to 55 hour work weeks, which translate to dollars, dollars, dollars for you too.
	Please put the enclosed $200 to good use.
	I'm planning a couple more such donations by year and so I can receive my second knighthood.
	We put it to good use by paying our rent with it and bills.
	Appendix B to Part 50, Quality Assurance Criteria for Nuclear Power Plants and Fuel Reprocessing Plants.
	And I'll put that in the show notes.
	You can take a look at it.
	I really enjoyed Adam's almost running out of gas story with the flying burrito, a.k.a.
	the airstream of consciousness.
	I have had similar near misses when taking the road less traveled.
	And John, thanks for the explanation concerning Twit.
	And then he goes on a little thing.
	Hey, you know, the outrage that I witnessed in my own psyche, when I saw Elon Musk present the ex- The Tesla X gullwing thing, SUV, rolling on stage, pulling an Airstream.
	Are you kidding me?
	You don't think you can pull it?
	Yeah, sure.
	Try between Austin and Lubbock and let me know when you get there and how many times you had to stop and where you actually recharged.
	Oh, you wouldn't make it.
	I can barely make it with gas, with a combustion engine.
	That's galling.
	It's like, hey, you can travel the country.
	Well, that was the implication.
	I didn't see this presentation.
	I'd be irked myself, and I don't even have an Airstream.
	On stage, the video, and he has like 17 people came out of the car like clowns, you know.
	Like, oh, look how cool it is.
	And it was pulling an Airstream.
	Like, we're all going to go on vacation.
	Where are you going?
	I don't know, about 80 miles from here.
	Then we have to plug in into the COA electrical group.
	And you have to wait for what, five hours for the charge?
	No, don't say that because we'll get a million people saying, it charges faster than five hours.
	That guy again.
	He owns a Tesla?
	That guy owns a Tesla, I'm telling you.
	Anyway, let me finish this guy's note here from our new guy.
	I'd like to request some short sale house buying karma.
	The bank is dragging its feet and accepting our offer.
	And the following jingles.
	I think this is the first time I've remembered to make a request.
	Okay.
	Here we go.
	Now, there's a list of ten.
	Get your pencil out.
	Oh, come on.
	I'm kidding.
	I'm kidding.
	Jeez.
	We have our 10 CFR 50 night, Appendix B, and you're grousing.
	Go ahead.
	I'm running for it.
	Okay.
	I'd like to request blah, blah, blah.
	New information has come to light, man.
	Okay.
	There is no real conflict.
	And bomb them again.
	Okay.
	New info, conflict, and...
	Bomb them again.
	Yeah, and then bomb them again.
	Okay.
	Thanks for the continuing doses of sanity in this crazy world and doing your best to bring the truth to light.
	Regards, Sir10CFR50, AppendixB.
	Okay.
	Oops.
	I missed.
	Ah, shoot.
	Sorry.
	It just dumped.
	What was the first one?
	I forgot.
	What was the first one?
	New information has come.
	I can just do it.
	No, I'm sorry.
	Look, I did everything right while you were talking.
	I've got information, man.
	New shit has come to life.
	There's no real conflict.
	We need to kill them.
	We need to kill them.
	Bomb them.
	And bomb them again, eh?
	Bomb them again.
	You've got karma.
	There you go.
	And that rounds out our group for today.
	Great guys.
	Yes.
	All working on extra knighthoods and the rest.
	It's fantastic.
	Yes.
	Thank you all very much.
	It's highly appreciated.
	These credits for executive producers and associate executive producers, like all production credits, are real.
	But specifically these we do at the beginning of the show in a separate segment, just like Hollywood, so people know that you are the one that helped actually produce this program.
	If these credits are ever called into question, we'll be very happy to vouch for you.
	And please remember, we have another show coming up on Thursday.
	And of course, we need everybody, especially you there in the chat room, to be out there propagating our formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Shut up, play.
	Shut up, slave!
	Okay, I have a point of clarification.
	Oh, boy.
	I, for some reason, I think two newsletters ago or whenever, I got the show 800 confused with the 8th anniversary.
	Ooh, bad.
	And show 800 is 40 shows away.
	That's a little early to be here.
	So I'm soliciting the 800 pennies and the 800 dimes and these 800...
	Show 800 donation levels that people...
	I'm surprised nobody wrote in and said anything and said, what are you talking about?
	This is like months from now.
	Show 800.
	Maybe next year for all of you.
	You meant the 8th anniversary.
	8th anniversary.
	So I had to create this 1026 donation.
	Which is our anniversary date.
	This $10.26 donation, which is $10.26 if you want to go there.
	Or if you want to be an executive producer with double credits, $210.26.
	Which is, we had our two guys that...
	Right, right.
	Okay, so we're clear?
	We're good now?
	I think so.
	Okay.
	I just wanted to explain that I was, I'm looking at this going, wait a minute.
	I was just looking at the donation thing because there's a list of buttons that I can access from on PayPal.
	I said, oh, what a dummy.
	I just feel like an idiot.
	That's okay.
	We're okay with you, man.
	Hold on a second, John.
	Let's go out of Ford.
	Year 2030.
	We're in 2030.
	We're still talking about it.
	Only now we're really doing something about it.
	Now, I've been paying attention to this new CNN division called Two Degrees.
	And we played a clip from that last time about, it's all about the global warming and stuff.
	And the title of this, although interestingly not really mentioned, and I'll just play a little bit of this clip.
	Does eating bugs help fight climate change?
	Bye.
	Believe it or not, this could be the farm of the future.
	I'm standing in a warehouse on the side of the highway.
	We're not talking about cows or chickens.
	We're talking crickets.
	These aren't for your pets.
	These are for you and me to put in our mouths to eat.
	And this follows the familiar format where, and you're seeing this everywhere, the format of the bugs meme is, boy, this is going to change our lives, it's going to save the world, and then you always have a cute girl doing the report and she always winds up eating some bugs.
	So this right here, this is a cricket farm.
	Right.
	They're in open cages.
	Yeah.
	This is not what I expected it would look like.
	Were you thinking free-range?
	Yeah, free-range.
	When most people think of bugs, they think of a nuisance, not nutrients.
	Why is it so taboo?
	Nutrients.
	It's not so much that it's taboo, it's just been unconsidered.
	There is the law in Maine that you couldn't feed prisoners lobster more than twice a week because it was considered inhumane.
	Do you remember this?
	Was there ever a law that you couldn't feed lobster to inmates because it was considered inhumane?
	I don't remember this.
	And now people pay $30 to $50 a pound for it.
	This guy's an entrepreneur.
	He's like, hey, I'm going to get on this bug band.
	He has a nice little setup, too.
	He's in Ohio.
	He's probably an ectheologist.
	This looks very different than, you know, the cattle farms that I drive by.
	I mean, this is amazingly space efficient.
	You're using so many fewer resources to produce a pound of insects compared to a pound of soybeans or a pound of beef.
	Anything cold-blooded is always going to have an advantage in feed efficiency over something that's blood-blooded.
	Oh, then we should eat Hillary Clinton.
	She's cold-blooded.
	I definitely hear the chirping of the crickets.
	Oh, yeah, right?
	I think it's very relaxing.
	Yeah, like...
	All right, so that goes on and on and on.
	I love bugs!
	Bugs, bugs, bugs.
	Just letting you know what's out there.
	They'll continue.
	Tastes like poo.
	And before I move to the second part of this segment, I live on the 15th floor here in the skyscraper, as you call it, John.
	How do crickets get up on the 15th floor?
	I have crickets on my balcony.
	Really?
	They can fly, you know, a little bit.
	Fifteen stories?
	Well, no.
	Yeah, and Austin has a cricket problem around this time of year, and you can walk into a store, and you'll see a black line against the wall, and it'll just be crickets in stores.
	Just, you know, half-dead, like...
	I'm sorry, half-prepared, I should say.
	They're not half-dead.
	They're half-ready to eat.
	I'm looking at Snopes, by the way, concerning that lobster tall tale.
	Yeah.
	It seems to be debatable.
	Okay.
	Well, Snopes is debatable by itself.
	Oh, yeah.
	I'm not going to say that Snopes is perfect.
	So Al Gore comes back on the stage.
	He might as well.
	I mean, there's a lot of crazy going on.
	We've got people running for president.
	So it's perfect time because the way I see it, This is timing on his part to jump into the media focus because he was a presidential candidate.
	He was vice president.
	He has a message.
	So they'll pull him on to talk about all kinds of things.
	But of course, he is really talking about climate change.
	And this is a very rare Ask John.
	Are you ready?
	Uh-oh.
	I don't have a jingle for you.
	I don't think we have an Ask John jingle.
	It's a two-parter.
	I'm going to stop this up for 20 seconds and ask you a question.
	We're still, on a global basis, putting 110 million tons of heat-trapping pollution into the atmosphere every single day.
	And the cumulative amount of man-made global warming pollution is now trapping as much extra heat energy in the atmosphere as would be released by 400,000.
	400,000 what?
	And now, again, the question for you, John C. Dvorak.
	That 110 million tons of pollution we're putting into the air every single day is equal to 400,000 what?
	Volcanoes.
	Would you like to try another guess?
	400,000, every day, mind you, every day, atomic bombs.
	My God, he wins!
	As would be released by 400,000 Hiroshima-class atomic bombs exploding every day.
	Every day!
	That's a conservative estimate, believe me.
	And that's a conservative estimate!
	Who buys this crap?
	Listen, listen, listen to this.
	Conservative estimate, believe me, if the deniers or denialists were able to pick apart that statistic, they would have.
	I never heard this crazy statistic.
	I never heard it either.
	I'm liking it.
	They'd pick it apart if they could.
	It's a conservative estimate.
	Most of it goes into the oceans.
	Oh, John, it goes into the oceans.
	Okay, well, hold on.
	What happens then?
	East Coast here right now picks up energy from the warmer oceans.
	It enters a new category of threat.
	That's what happened with Superstorm Sandy.
	When the ice melts and the sea level rises, I was in Miami the last three days, there were fish swimming in the streets.
	Broward County.
	Okay, so we release...
	This guy's got to enter the race.
	Conservative estimate, 400,000 Hiroshima-class nuclear bombs that are in the ocean, and because of that, the ice is melting, the seawater level rises, and there's fish swimming in Miami.
	There's fish on the streets, I tell ya!
	We need to do something!
	How can people keep a straight face with this guy?
	It's fantastic, man.
	400,000 A-bombs a day.
	Conservative estimate.
	Conservative estimate.
	It's conservative.
	Yeah, it's a conservative estimate.
	I'm telling you, there's really nothing going on.
	Wow.
	Now, in the meantime...
	Borderline clip of the day.
	Borderline clip of the day.
	You know, honestly, I had thought I might have gotten like a full clip of the day.
	Borderline clip of the day.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Now, along with this little ditty comes two things.
	First of all, there's a new meme.
	Just a quick jump back.
	I missed this.
	Can I stop for a second?
	Stop the show.
	Hold on a second.
	Stop the show!
	You wanted a clip of the day, I understand, from what I've heard, for that last clip, which I gave you, Borderline Clip of the Day, but because you comboed it with an Ask John, it diminished the impact of the clip itself.
	Okay, I think it was worth it.
	I forego the clip of the day by having you guess actually what it was about.
	Back to the bugs for one second.
	There is a new...
	Where will you eat these bugs?
	Where will you first witness them?
	Yes, there already is.
	A nice bug restaurant.
	I've been to a lot of restaurants that apparently serve cockroach in Chinatown.
	Do you know what these restaurants will be called?
	Cockroach restaurants.
	Pestorant.
	Reese's Spoons.
	A pestorant.
	Pesterant.
	Yes, Pesterant.
	No.
	Yes, there are now restaurants calling themselves Pesterants.
	No.
	Yes.
	No.
	Okay, no.
	Then don't look at the show notes because you'll be severely disappointed.
	What idiot?
	What they call Rat Haven.
	I mean, what idiot is going to call their facility a Pesterant?
	No.
	Subsidized restaurants, I guess.
	Someone will do it.
	There's a pretty big story in Australia's news.com.au.
	A former climate modeler for the government's Australian Greenhouse Office with six degrees in applied mathematics, Dr.
	Evans has unpacked the architecture of the basic climate model which underpins all climate science.
	I believe the guy has standing, if you have six degrees in applied mathematics.
	And he was a climate modeler for the Australian Greenhouse.
	So this is the guy under the hood of the climate models.
	One of those, yeah, modeler.
	He has fixed two errors, and the newly corrected model finds that climate sensitivity to carbon dioxide is much lower than was thought.
	Stop.
	Don't tell anybody this.
	It turns out the UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has overestimated future global warming by as much as 10 times.
	Yes, he says CO2 has an effect, but it's about a fifth or maybe even a tenth of what the IPCC says it is.
	CO2 is not driving the climate.
	It caused less than 20% of the global warming in the last few decades.
	Dr.
	Evans says his discovery ought to change the world.
	Yes, it will, because you will be removed from it, Dr.
	Evans.
	Yes, you will be executed in the morning.
	It will change your world for sure, sir.
	His discovery explains why none of the climate models used by the IPCC reflect the evidence of recorded temperatures.
	Or the tide, by the way, and I can do a tide check.
	Oh, hold on a second.
	I'd love to have a tide check.
	Let's, uh, hold on a second.
	Oh, here we go.
	Because of what's happening in Greenland right now, the maps of the world will have to be redrawn.
	This is what would happen to San Francisco Bay.
	John C. Dvorak with the Tide Check on global warming climate change.
	Looking out the window, what do you see?
	I'm looking at the San Francisco Bay right from my window, and I can see the mud flats at the zero sea level freeway going by, and the mud is still there.
	There's no water.
	In Greenland right now, the maps of the world will have to be redrawn.
	This is what would happen to San Francisco Bay.
	Thank you, John.
	Thank you, John.
	We're still safe.
	Please, for a couple more shows.
	So, the new and improved climate model shows CO2 is not the culprit in recent global warming, but what is.
	Dr.
	Evans has a theory.
	Solar activity, what he calls albedomodulation, the waxing and waning of reflected radiation from the sun, is likely the cause of global warming.
	Wow, Captain Obvious.
	I think we've heard this before.
	He predicts global temperatures.
	It can't be the sun!
	He predicts global temperatures, which have plateaued, will begin to cool significantly beginning between 2017 and 2021.
	The cooling will be about 0.3 degrees centigrade in the 2020s.
	Some scientists have even forecast a mini ice age.
	If Dr.
	Evans is correct, then he has proven the theory on carbon dioxide wrong and blown a hole in climate alarmism.
	Well, we'll see.
	But he's one of the modelers.
	That's what I like about this story.
	That is a little different.
	So where'd you get that story?
	I told you.
	It's from news.com.au.
	It's a murder property.
	Okay, it's from Australia.
	Well, the guy is from Australia.
	He was on the Australian government's greenhouse office.
	Who's picked up this story in the United States?
	Any of the three networks?
	Well, I can attest that they haven't.
	But as AP or Reuters?
	Let me find out.
	Hold on.
	Let's take a look.
	Okay, let's see.
	His name is Dr.
	David Evans.
	So let's take a look.
	Uh-oh, too many David Evanses out there.
	Well, Dr.
	David Evans, let's see what pops up.
	When he has all these degrees, shouldn't it be Dr.
	Dr.
	Dr.
	David?
	I don't know.
	There are a lot of dentists named Dr.
	Evans.
	That's a very common dental name.
	Yeah.
	Oh, here we go.
	SkepticalScience.com.
	Climate Misinformer!
	Okay.
	That's the top link.
	Climate Misinformer?
	Yes.
	So the guy's full of crap?
	Is that what they're saying?
	Yeah.
	Here's a list.
	Climate Misinformer, colon, David Evans.
	Below are many of the climate myths used by David Evans, plus how often each myth has been used.
	Oh, he's a serial myth maker.
	That, and he's a damn denier.
	True!
	The science is in!
	Science!
	In other words, this is not being covered.
	Watching the deniers, another cool website.
	Are we on that?
	We should be on watching the deniers.
	No, we're too low end.
	Who else is on watching the...
	I don't think we're official deniers.
	We're mockers.
	We don't deny the climate changes.
	We just...
	We're mockers.
	There you go.
	Climate mockers.
	Well, not a single person has picked this up in the United States, even to call him a mainstream, that is.
	Even to call him a denier.
	Yeah, that's the way it's going to be.
	Only on the No Agenda show can you get this obscure information.
	That's right.
	Which allows you to have to get into arguments with your friends.
	Yes.
	They're all in.
	And I also put for good measure in there, because it popped up again, I put in the true numbers on the polar bear population.
	Yeah.
	Those things are getting out of control.
	We're going to have to hunt them for food.
	Yeah.
	I just love it, seeing a little polar bear on his little piece of ice.
	Oh, I'm so sad!
	But the polar bear doesn't want to be in ice.
	He wants to swim.
	He doesn't want to be in the ice.
	Anyway, go ahead and look at that.
	Just as an entremant.
	Oh, an entremant.
	Yeah, a little entremant.
	I don't know if I have an entremant.
	Well, this People app.
	P-E-E-P-L-E. People app.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's bullcrap.
	Well, of course it's bullcrap, but...
	I find this to be...
	It was fascinating.
	The amount of coverage on an app that does not exist.
	The app is not out.
	The app is not scheduled for release until November.
	Some people feel the whole thing is a big practical joke.
	No, I think it's something else.
	It is a moron.
	A stupid, stupid moronic woman.
	And her name is...
	I did some looking into this.
	Double stupid.
	Stupid, stupid.
	Julia Cordray.
	She's been a troublemaker throughout her life.
	Six or seven years ago.
	The wife of the Cordray comic?
	No.
	She was distributing flyers...
	That, uh, let's see.
	The Flyers do not intend to threaten anyone or take any position.
	Here we go.
	Cordray, man.
	Last night, this is 09, Julia Cordray publicly acknowledged that she hung dozens of Happy Birthday Hitler posters on students' doors last Friday.
	She's a dick.
	She's an obvious dick.
	But what I think this is about, and this is the funniest thing, is she's getting her 15 minutes of fame, or 15 megabytes, maybe the gigabytes for her.
	I really wanted to play just a little bit, because she apparently, really what she's doing is making a reality show.
	A reality show on YouTube about making this app in her path.
	And she's like sopping all over herself that she's in the news.
	But she fails to see that she has nothing to sell.
	And how it works.
	Like, you have this incredible exposure started by the Washington Post by some dingbat who writes crazy shit on the internet columns.
	And somehow that caught fire.
	I'm not quite sure how that happened.
	And then everybody wants to talk about her.
	And she's loving it.
	Oh, I'm so great.
	And I just want to...
	This is the type of...
	Made it to the front page of MSN and every tech news and every major media.
	She's in the car here.
	This is shot like a reality show, crappily, but they've got little effects and little reality show-like edits, and she's talking to a friend of hers on the speakerphone while driving in the car.
	We made it.
	We made it.
	Every major media outlet is calling me and fighting for my time.
	Fighting for my time.
	Fighting for my time.
	And now they added in a couple examples.
	Julia Cordray, CEO and co-founder of The People.
	Don't brace yourselves for people.
	What?
	P-E-E-P-L-E. It's going to be released in November.
	...get any worse.
	There's now an app where people can rate you as a person.
	People, as you heard it's called, allows users to give one to five stars to anybody they know.
	The People app developers told Washington Post that this app is about uplifting people.
	Co-founders of this app are trying to say it's all about being positive.
	What do you think Morgan Freeman?
	We would all give 10 stars to Mr.
	Freeman.
	We would all give you 10 stars.
	I mean, it is so stupid that the mainstream media is on an app that does not exist based on a story from some dingbat woman.
	Now Charlie Rose is talking about, well, we of course, and he's sitting right there.
	We'd give Mr.
	What's his name?
	Mr.
	Freeman.
	We'd give him 10 stars on the app because he's great.
	And Morgan Freeman's sitting there like he wants to take a shit.
	He's like, what?
	It's gone all the way to Europe, UK, Asia, like everywhere.
	It's gone around the world.
	We've heard from every corner of the world.
	Julia Cordray and her friend Nicole McCullough created people because they wanted a way to...
	Notice an official...
	Yeah, notice an official 3x3 network saying they created something which they have nothing.
	Research strangers.
	After articles about people were published this week, the app ironically became the subject of a slew of bad online reviews.
	Ironically!
	The news quickly spread about...
	Hold on a second.
	How in any way is...
	Does she know what the word ironic means?
	No.
	No.
	She's reading.
	Something just came out and ironically got a bad review.
	Yeah, she's reading.
	How is that ironic?
	Because the app is about reviewing people.
	And about reviewing people badly.
	But the app didn't come out.
	No, I know.
	There's no app.
	We would all give you ten stars.
	It's gone all the way to Europe, UK, Asia, like everywhere.
	It's gone around the world.
	We've heard from every corner of the world.
	Julia Cordray.
	Every corner of the world, hey bitch, it's not flat, it's round.
	And her friend Nicole McCullough created people because they wanted a way to research strangers.
	After articles about people were published this week, the app ironically became the subject of a slew of bad online reviews.
	The news quickly spread about what a terrible, horrible, civilization-ending idea this was.
	A Washington Post article was the very first American media that...
	Now this is in her house, she's in her bathroom, putting on makeup.
	...fit on...
	Was that yesterday?
	Oh, I can't...
	Spoken model Chrissy Teigen expressed her discontent, tweeting, In an age where both truth and gossip on the internet can literally ruin lives, this People app is horrible and scary.
	Hello, Julia speaking.
	Check this out.
	She's fielding her own press request, John.
	You'll appreciate this.
	So this is very important, actually.
	This is the crux.
	Okay, okay.
	This is one of these bookers.
	And, of course, the bookers for CNBC and MSNBC, but even the 3x3 networks, the people who do the booking are morons, too.
	And their job is to just get this woman on air and to suck up to her and just listen to the exchange.
	This People app is horrible and scary.
	Hello, Julia speaking.
	Hello.
	I am available tomorrow.
	We'd have to book something.
	So just let me know what you're hopeful on and I'll do my best to accommodate you.
	So just let me know what you need and we'd be happy to make it work for you.
	I love you.
	We love you.
	We love you.
	I love you.
	It's so great.
	I can't wait to be on TV again.
	Without anything to promote.
	This is completely idiotic.
	I'm Canadian.
	I lived in Toronto.
	I'm not Canadian, but I lived in Toronto, so I love Canada.
	She says, I lived in Canada, because she's Canadian, this woman.
	Awesome.
	Go Canada, hey?
	Or maybe blame Canada.
	Who knows?
	We'll see how this all goes.
	It's a pretty common phone call now.
	We've got ABC, CBC, BBC, BBC all the way to the UK. And then now we've got CNBC. And I've got a list of a ton of media.
	I predict heroin overdose for her.
	That's what I'm thinking.
	I was wondering what your punchline was going to do.
	It's got to be that.
	But it shows how, and this is the sickness on the face page, is that people really, really want to be recognized, even if she's being recognized for nothing.
	Because she's only told a story about an app, we've seen a screenshot she's holding up on her phone, which could just be a screenshot.
	I don't, she hasn't talked about her developers or anything.
	And then she actually, well, I won't play it, but then a fan calls her up, because her number is apparently available for anyone.
	And it's just some woman who, hey, I think.
	Oh, you should call her.
	I'm sorry?
	What?
	You should call her.
	No, no, no.
	And tell her that we're Putin.
	Has a no agenda show?
	Can we get you on for an interview?
	Hello.
	Even though we don't do interviews ever.
	Hello.
	It's Vladimir Putin.
	Hello.
	I talked to Elton John.
	Now I talk to you.
	You sound...
	What is that voice?
	Yeah, that's my Brzezinski voice.
	It's not good.
	That was just a little entremant to get you feeling good about not being on the face page.
	Yes, well, this is just another good reason, it looks like.
	Alright, now what?
	Well...
	We can go about...
	We can do a little Syria.
	Yes, I'd love to do some F Russia on Syria.
	I could do some more transitionary stuff.
	I got some native ads.
	Well, I'll tell you what.
	I'll set you up.
	I'll set you up for Syria with a little clipping of Lavrov.
	Lavrov.
	He did a little picture thing with John Kerry.
	And he was pissed off because Lavrov is standing there waiting for Kerry.
	And Kerry's late.
	And Lavrov's just walking around with a big scowl on his face.
	And the only reason he was waiting is for Kerry to show up.
	They take some pictures.
	Don't ask questions.
	Answer questions.
	And then go into the room to have a discussion.
	And you can't hear this on the clip.
	But Kerry rolls up.
	And Lavrov is like pointing at his wad.
	Yes, and Kerry's shrugging like, well, you know, I don't know, man.
	It's just life's tough, man.
	I'm not going to be late.
	I'm important.
	But listen to what Lavrov says offhandedly.
	Everything, everything was said by the Russian Minister of Defense.
	Don't listen to Pentagon about the Russian strikes.
	Don't listen to Pentagon about the Russian strikes.
	I've got to play that.
	So here is Ash Carter.
	This is what Lavrov, the foreign minister of Russia, is referring to.
	Ash Carter is our current leader of the Department of Defense, the guy who takes the orders and sends out the money.
	Are you saying, then, that the strikes were in a place where you believed there were no ISIL fighters and therefore leads you to that?
	Again, I want to be careful about...
	Confirming information, but it does appear that they were in areas where there probably were not ISIL forces, and that is precisely one of the problems with this whole approach.
	What?
	During my phone call with Minister Shoigu, I also told him that I was prepared to send a DOD team to meet with Russian defense counterparts at a location to be agreed upon.
	All right, so he goes on to talk about, hey, you should be bombing ISIS, ISIL, IS, Daesh, but you should not be bombing our guys, who, of course, are the moderates.
	Now, we don't have guys.
	That's the joke.
	But go on.
	But here's Kerry confirming.
	Mill Mill talks took place today.
	Mil-mil talks, he said.
	Mil-mil talks took place today, which I think I saw on PornTube.
	Mil-mil talks.
	Oh, no, that was milf-milf talks.
	I'm sorry.
	Mil-mil talks took place today, and a proposal's been sent, and they're working on the next meeting, and the meeting will happen.
	I'm confident.
	What's important is Russia has to not be engaged in any activities against anybody but ISIL at this point.
	That's clear.
	We've made that clear.
	So we've made it very clear to them they cannot be involved in anything other than ISIL. Here's Lavrov.
	The U.S. coalition says it's fighting ISIL. With your airstrikes, you now say your military is targeting terrorists.
	Can you be specific for us?
	In addition to ISIL, which specific groups in Syria do you believe to be terrorists?
	And he comes back with an answer that is...
	You just gotta respect the guy.
	Well, if it looks like a terrorist, if it acts like a terrorist, if it walks like a terrorist, if it fights like a terrorist, it's a terrorist, right?
	As regards to what are the targets of the coalition and what are the targets announced by Russia, we have the same approach.
	It's ISIL, Nusra and other terrorist groups.
	These are all terrorist groups.
	If it walks like a terrorist, talks like a terrorist, acts like a terrorist.
	I got news for you.
	It's a terrorist, right?
	He even threw a right in there.
	Like a Silicon Valley right.
	Yeah.
	Love that guy.
	So that is, in a nutshell, what's going on.
	John, do you have anything to add to that?
	I got a couple of things I want to roll out here in the same vein.
	The thing that got me is we're listening to us bitch about the Russians coming in and blowing up the place.
	Which is too late to get rid of them now, by the way.
	Because they're there.
	They're flying.
	We can't do anything about it.
	And they're allies with Syria, so why wouldn't they help their buddy?
	It makes no sense.
	You mean their client state.
	And so now we hear from the Defense Department, oh, you know, the stupid Russians, they've got these, they're not even using smart bombs.
	Did you hear this complaint?
	No, I hadn't heard this one.
	They're not using smart bombs like we do.
	So they're targeting, you know, they just shoot at something and then it blows up some poor bastard that's sitting in his chair out in front.
	And so they go on and on about this.
	Oh, they're not, you know, the Russians are just willy-nilly firing at everything.
	So this report comes out, which I think is repressed, although there's a lot of action on Twitter about it.
	This is the DOD, the Doctors Without Borders in Afghanistan.
	We use smart bombs.
	We know what we're doing.
	We just don't blow stuff up willy-nilly.
	But how does this report work?
	At least 19 people were killed today at a hospital in Afghanistan.
	It was bombed in what appears to have been an American airstrike aimed at Taliban militants.
	Dozens more were wounded at the hospital, which is run by the aid organization Doctors Without Borders.
	We get more tonight from NBC's John Yang.
	Daybreak in Kunduz revealed the results of an hour-long bombardment.
	The hospital run by Doctors Without Borders still burning.
	Inside, bloodied staff slumped in hallways.
	Surgery still underway in a makeshift operating room.
	They saw patients burning in their beds.
	I mean, completely traumatic, distressing scenes.
	The aid group said from 2.08 a.m.
	until 3.15 local time its hospital was rocked by aerial assaults every 15 minutes.
	They say it continued for 30 minutes even after they alerted U.S. and Afghan forces.
	They gave the Pentagon their GPS coordinates as recently as this week.
	Afghan officials claim as many as 15 Taliban fighters were shooting from the hospital.
	The charity flatly denies it.
	U.S. forces say the airstrikes targeted Taliban directly firing upon U.S. service members advising and assisting Afghan security forces in the vicinity of a Doctors Without Borders medical facility.
	As outrage grew on social media, Defense Secretary Ash Carter called it tragic and offered my thoughts and prayers to everyone affected, but stopped well short of an apology.
	He said a full investigation is underway.
	Late today, as Afghan forces try to drive the Taliban out of Kunduz, wounded civilians were still arriving at the partially destroyed hospital.
	Doctors Without Borders is demanding an independent investigation of how death and destruction came to a place solely devoted to care and healing.
	John Yang, NBC News, London.
	Okay, your take, Mr.
	Dvorak.
	Good work, boys.
	And of course, they said, oh, the Taliban were using the hospital, they were shooting.
	This is a two in the morning.
	Nobody was shooting anything.
	They just bombed this place.
	They bombed him for some reason.
	I don't know.
	We have to look into this, but they were bombed for a purpose.
	This was not an accident.
	Or if it was an accident, then all this argument about the Russians is bogus because we can't target anything correctly.
	I just found it very disturbing.
	Yeah.
	Meanwhile, back at the ranch.
	I'm listening to Newsnight, which is everyone.
	Oh, Newsnight, you know, BBC News.
	BBC Newsnight, yes.
	BBC Newsnight, oh, that's the 60 Minutes of England, oh, it's the greatest.
	Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	So here they are.
	Hold on.
	Are you saying that it's no good?
	Well, here they are propagating the bullcrap, which we fight on our show, about the chemical weapons and the use on the civilians, which was actually researched to death, shows that it wasn't shot by the Syria.
	It was a setup to bomb Syria as bullcrap.
	And then, of course, the Russians stepped in and had all the stuff removed.
	But that...
	That's a meme that the mainstream media keeps promoting.
	Oh, they use chemical weapons on themselves, which makes no sense if you really think about it.
	So here we go again.
	And the ending of this little ditty from Syria, they're talking to the number two woman in Syria who's very poorly mic'd.
	Number two woman of what?
	She's like the number one assistant to Assad.
	Okay, gotcha.
	And so she's like, she's a spokeshole now.
	And she's poorly mic'd and it's in an echo box.
	You can barely hear her, but you can.
	And And then she says everybody's got it wrong, and she sounds like she's probably right about most of this.
	And then the guy, especially about the chemical bombings, says, you know, the chemical weapons, he says we agree.
	The way he sums it up is we have to agree to disagree, which I think is the stupidest thing anyone can say.
	So let's play it.
	That the West put for itself, that it is the Syrian government who is responsible for what is happening in Syria.
	The Syrian Network for Human Rights, just looking at figures for December last year, said that 85% of the civilian deaths were from government forces.
	How can the West ally themselves with government forces, barrel bombs, chemical weapons and the like being used against their own people?
	I'm sorry, but you are reiterating stories that have been defeated by investigation and by real research.
	The chemical and the chlorine has been investigated and has been proven that it was used By forces from outside Syria and by those terrorists.
	You know, barrel bombs is a phrase that has been invented by the West and used by the West only to justify the wrong stance that the West has taken since the beginning of this crisis.
	If I can say one sentence, the West has been wrong all along on Syria.
	It is about time to review their stance.
	We'll obviously agree to disagree for now on that particular point.
	It should be.
	Really?
	We should go investigate that.
	That sounds credible.
	I mean, but, of course, we get all the information from the Syrian Observatory.
	What is that?
	That one guy in an apartment somewhere in London?
	The official Syrian observation post company outfit thing?
	Yeah.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, there's a lot of good information about the so-called barrel bombs as well as the chemical weapons, and we did a lot of that work as well.
	That it's very disprovable.
	But yeah, this is happening.
	I see this on the face page, too.
	Well, we're just going to have to agree to disagree on that.
	Well, then what's the point of having an argument with you?
	Agree to disagree.
	Agree to disagree.
	You can always disagree.
	You don't have to agree.
	Do you have to agree to disagree?
	No.
	You can just disagree.
	How about...
	Disagreeing to disagree.
	That's what I would say.
	I disagree to disagree.
	I'm going to keep disagreeing until you agree with my disagreement.
	It's like, I agree to disagree.
	We have to agree to disagree.
	No, we don't have to.
	What does it even mean?
	We disagree.
	We disagree.
	That's the way it is.
	There's a good kind of a, you know, Yiddish thing.
	We disagree to disagree.
	Oy.
	Well, John, it is Sunday.
	Let me check.
	How are we doing?
	We could go to the C block if you're ready now.
	I have another little bitty one.
	I was wondering if you wanted to do some tech news today.
	Oh, I'm always game for tech news.
	Do you want to do that now or are you a little ditty first?
	Well, let's do the tech news after the next break.
	Okay, good.
	Gotcha.
	Do you want to do that one clip still or what do you want to do?
	Well, I've got the poor translation clip, which I'd like to get out of the way.
	Yeah, I want that too.
	They got Putin, and this is part of your...
	I think you're right about Putin needs to do this stuff in English so they don't have these sorts of crappy translations, which just don't make sense.
	And when you think about what he said he said, it's like it doesn't work.
	Much is being read into this, including this, that this is a new effort for Russia to take a leadership role in the Middle East and that It represents a new strategy by you.
	Is it?
	Not really, no.
	More than 2,000 fighters from Russia and ex-Soviet republics are in the territory of Syria.
	There's a threat of their return to us.
	So instead of waiting for their return, we are better off helping Assad fight them on Syrian territory.
	Okay!
	Did you hear what he said?
	Yeah.
	Tell us.
	Well, he said, the way it was translated is pretty straightforward.
	We have 2,000 Russians in Syria.
	I don't know what they're doing there because it's never really explained, but we don't want them coming home.
	So we'll fight them there.
	What?
	Yeah, that sounds like what he said.
	Sounds like exactly what it was translated.
	Yeah, exactly.
	What he's talking about, there's a bunch of Chechnyans and other radicals from Russia that they'd rather fight in Syria than in Russia.
	But if you listen to this bogus translation, and I would like you to play it again.
	I'd love to.
	Knowing what he's trying to say and this guy translating in some awkward way, it makes you think that Putin's crazy.
	And this is from Charlie Rose's sit-down interview with Putin, right?
	Yes.
	Okay, here we go.
	Tell me about the sexuality.
	It's in your DNA. Much is being read into this, including this.
	That this is a new effort for Russia to take a leadership role in the Middle East.
	It represents a new strategy by you.
	Is it?
	Not really, no.
	More than 2,000 fighters from Russia and ex-Soviet republics are in the territory of Syria.
	There's a threat of their return to us.
	So instead of waiting for their return, we are better off helping Assad fight them on Syrian territory.
	Very good, John.
	Very good.
	I implore everyone to take a look at the translated...
	The transcript of the entire interview.
	There are a lot of things that did not make it into the interview.
	But then again, who knows how honest the translation is.
	And Putin speaks English.
	I would give him, listen, we all sit here and goo-goo guys over the Pope.
	Climate change is kind of wild.
	Climate change.
	And we go, oh, Pope, Pope.
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	That's right, everybody.
	Time for tech news.
	That's right.
	It's where the tech horny don't dare go.
	We all bring it down to more than just phones.
	I assume you've got something.
	I do.
	I do.
	I was surprised to see a new addition to the Apple board of directors.
	Which actually made me look into all the board of director members at Apple, and I found that to be somewhat disconcerting for the tech horny who always are ready to tell you, well, I think Apple should have done this.
	I think Apple should have, I think, I think, I think, right?
	I think Apple should, Apple should do, you know, they should really do, they should have done this with Apple.
	Hail Apple!
	Today, Apple announced former Boeing chief financial officer and corporate president James Bell has joined Apple's board of directors.
	Calling himself an, quote, avid user of Apple products with, quote, tremendous respect for Apple's ability to innovate, Bell brings nearly four decades of experience at Boeing to Apple's board.
	Now, we can say Boeing, but probably you could call it the military-industrial complex.
	I see an Apple jet.
	Oh, yes, and it's not going to be a Gulfstream.
	Bell becomes the eighth member of Apple's board of directors, so it's an addition, it's not a replacement.
	Joining CEO Tim Cook, board chairman and former Genentech executive, Art Levinson, Al Gore, of course, Disney chairman Bob Iger, Grameen president and CEO Andrea Young, and former Northrop Grumman chairman and CEO Ron Sugar.
	I didn't realize that we had a Northrop...
	What is a Northrop Grumman guy doing on the board?
	Apple Jet.
	Apple Jet.
	And BlackRock co-founder Sue Wagner.
	But you need to take into account that Kevin Lynch joined Apple recently.
	How long ago was this?
	Was it a year and a half ago, maybe?
	And this was just poking around at who's doing what at Apple.
	Kevin Lynch is now the vice president of technology at Apple.
	Specifically, his beat...
	And his responsibility has been the developing of the software for Apple's smartwatch project, the Apple Watch.
	Previously, Lynch worked at Adobe specifically on Flash and the tracking capabilities of the Flash product.
	I do want to warn people what is going on here.
	And I don't know if Tim Cook is a good guy or not.
	I have always believed that Steve Jobs held back having met him once and having an hour-long evaluation period.
	If there was ever anyone trying to sneak some crap into the Apple system or the Apple platform, I'm pretty sure he fought against it.
	He's also one of the very few world elites who actually died of cancer.
	Usually they don't.
	There's not a long list of...
	Well, usually they take the treatment, too.
	But they don't die.
	No, they don't.
	It's rare.
	Yeah.
	So, Tim Cook, we'll have to see.
	I would recommend he not take too many hot tubs with his friends.
	The lid might close.
	But I see a troubling...
	A collection of people entering Apple and working there.
	It's troubling.
	They're definitely not the kind of people that you would see reflected in a Silicon Valley company necessarily.
	No.
	Exactly.
	Then I caught...
	Do you want to slip one in here, John?
	I got nothing.
	I thought you had tech news.
	Well, I might think of something along the way.
	Well, so Blockpocalypse, which...
	Blockpocalypse!
	Blockpocalypse.
	You gotta get that in there right.
	Blockpocalypse.
	Blockpocalypse.
	This is Apple's decision to allow ad blockers to be included, and I've loaded one, and it works great.
	It saves a lot of money, then time for people on calling, on data plans.
	It can save you a lot of money.
	Probably half.
	Sorry?
	I said, yeah.
	Yeah, that's part of the idea, exactly.
	But this is, it's a problem.
	I think a lot of desktop computers, people using laptops and desktops, you know, full-size browsers, probably most of them already have an Adblocker installed, although it may be Adblocker Plus, which I think is, you know, is a dark horse, not a dark, is a Trojan horse.
	I believe they turn around and they're going to start selling information to advertisers.
	Although a lot of people will love that.
	Well, now at least I'll get targeted advertising.
	What I like.
	Sure.
	The blockpocalypse, I think, will be very successful.
	More and more people, particularly the young kids, like, I hate this mobile.
	I hate when I touch the screen and the app store opens.
	I don't like it.
	What do I, install this, done.
	Okay, good.
	And it's going to ruin a lot of the advertising capabilities, which is, and we've talked about this so many times on this program, so many times about the scam.
	Here's how it works.
	Very simple.
	There are many companies.
	They're called audience aggregation companies.
	They run botnets, or they, they, Contract botnets and real people clicking away in Singapore.
	Not Singapore.
	Philippines.
	Thank you.
	Philippines and India.
	And you buy that for about $5 per CPM. So $5 per thousand clicks on some link or watching a video.
	That's where it's most rampant.
	I have personal experience.
	If you turn around, you sell it to the ad network for $8.
	There's your arbitrage.
	It's $3 in the middle.
	And with that, you also have to just create some crappy content and away you go.
	Google is obviously...
	Inventory.
	Inventory, yes.
	Google is obviously worried about this because they host a lot of ads.
	It's kind of their business.
	Now, who is this new Google CEO? Indian guy.
	Well, he's the...
	I guess he's the CEO of one of the ABC operations.
	Google, yeah.
	And this guy...
	What was he?
	He did something else before.
	He was big.
	He was the big shot in one of the subdivisions.
	Who is the new Google CEO? What's his name again?
	What's his name, John?
	I don't have his name in front of me.
	If I start searching for it, then it interferes with my Skype because I get this thing.
	Sundar Pichai.
	Sundar.
	Sundar.
	He used to be the head of some one of the divisions.
	He was formerly product chief, so he already was running quite a bit.
	Yeah.
	And we are very familiar with the, we'll just call it what it is, the Indian Cabal.
	Indian Cabal, they all work together.
	Yeah, all of a sudden you see a bunch of Indians now.
	Everyone.
	Oh yeah, it's going to be all Indian all the time.
	In fact, they should just take over the copyright for the Redskins brand.
	Sorry.
	I don't know why I said that.
	Yeah, that was dumb.
	So he's on some stage with some conversation about ad blocking.
	He's clearly worried.
	He is clearly worried, but I thought it would be interesting to listen to about a minute and 45 seconds of what he thinks about blockpocalypse.
	This is why Facebook, on the Face page, they are now trying to bring advertisers in to use their new system, which basically is an ad that contains a Facebook URL, which an ad blocker won't block.
	Because it would block all of Facebook.
	So people are now vying for ways to get around this.
	Very cool idea.
	Temporary fix is what it's also known as.
	Well, let's start with basics.
	All of us.
	Enjoy amazing services like Search.
	Talk about a reality distortion field.
	The Google guys live in a huge alternative reality of how people are and what people really like and enjoy.
	Amazing services like Search.
	Search is amazing!
	Search is amazing!
	It's amazing!
	Oh my God, John!
	Search.
	I have one word for you, Mr.
	Dvorak.
	Search!
	Amazing!
	Like Maps.
	Maps!
	Mr.
	Dvorak!
	Maps!
	Amazing!
	Okay, I will say Google Maps is an outstanding product for me.
	I have to say it's an outstanding product.
	That is probably the best product they have.
	Like YouTube.
	YouTube!
	Amazing.
	The entire Android operating system.
	John, the entire Android operating system.
	It's amazing.
	And amazing products like Facebook.
	John?
	Facebook?
	Sucks.
	These are all ad supporters.
	And I think it's important to recognize that these are available to all of humanity.
	All of humanity.
	We, we here at Google, have made this available to all of humanity.
	You may now kiss the ring.
	In my mind, what is also profoundly different over the last 10 to 15 years...
	Now, mind you, this is his mind.
	His mind.
	We're inside Sundar's head.
	...is that many, many, many small content creators, people that write recipes or people that make new exercise routines, they're all able to earn a livelihood by creating high-quality content.
	Ah!
	High quality content in the form of recipes.
	Google!
	Thank you.
	Thank you for helping all of humanity with recipes.
	And putting it out there and having it be supported by ads.
	Putting it out there.
	You know, this is so degrading.
	The way this guy talks, like, we need to suck his toes.
	Yeah, it's dickish.
	It's totally dickish.
	They're all that way at Google.
	Fast Company, New York Times, all the journalism that we love.
	Journalism.
	Do you love journalism?
	Let him play, let him play out.
	He's supported heavily by advertising.
	But here's the problem.
	There are also a set of sites...
	That make for a pretty terrible user experience.
	I bet all of us have gone to sites where there's an ad covering the entire site and you can't even figure it out.
	Are you saying I watch porn?
	To click it away.
	I think these are leading to the rise of ad blockers.
	Okay, so what he's saying...
	Hold on a second.
	You know where this is going?
	I don't know where it's going, but he's full of crap.
	All right, analyze.
	It's not these crap...
	Okay, he says there's sites with bad experience.
	Just don't go to those sites if it's a bad experience.
	They're ruining it for everybody, John, because of these bad sites, this isn't his point, because of these bad sites, and Google is very happy to use Chrome to point out what site is dangerous and bad.
	We've had that ourselves.
	Oh, this is not a safe site.
	You shouldn't go there, people.
	Remember this?
	Remember that happened to Dvorak.org?
	Yeah, it still happens.
	So because of the bad sites, just a handful, just a handful, because of those bad sites, they're ruining the party for everybody.
	The real problem is that ad blockers throw out the baby with the bad one.
	And the babies...
	They don't.
	They don't throw out any babies at all.
	And they don't throw out any bathwater.
	They just block ads.
	They make monetization impossible for a whole slew of people.
	No.
	That's a lie.
	Tell me.
	We're monetizing without these ads, but ad blockers don't affect us at all.
	We're monetizing the No Agenda show.
	Yeah.
	Well, clearly we're not doing great stuff like highly produced recipe videos, but we could do it.
	Beside the point.
	Yeah, we can do better.
	They removed the diversity, which I think has added richness.
	Now, I'm going to ask you, what do you think he's leading to?
	What do you think we need as an industry?
	Because we all have to work together.
	And with that, he doesn't mean the recipe people, okay?
	He doesn't mean the no agenda show.
	He means Google, Apple, Yahoo, Microsoft.
	These amazing products like video and search.
	What do you think it's leading to?
	He's leading up to the announcement of some new idea that makes Google Ads even worse.
	Well, he actually announced that.
	Or he's got a counter ad blocking product or I have no idea.
	It's all nuts.
	Think democracy, John.
	Oh, we can vote for our ads.
	To all our lives.
	But we need to recognize as an industry that this is something that we need to deal with.
	And as an industry, John, we have to deal with this.
	Pay attention.
	So this is where we need to work together, for example, to come up with a definition of what an acceptable ad is and what an acceptable ad's program could be.
	The ad police is what we're going to have.
	The advertising police.
	The ad police.
	That's a good one.
	Because your ad is not acceptable.
	And then what Google's been trying to do there are a bunch of dictators.
	Yeah.
	Emphasis on dick.
	And then work together.
	To figure out, you know, how do we ensure a world in which sites and publishers that conform to the standard don't get their ads blocked?
	We had an early stages.
	We had some ideas for how to think about this.
	I think it is going to be difficult for us to agree as an industry, but it's one of those cases where I think not agreeing is actually going to lead to a much worse outcome for all of us.
	That's what I meant by calling this needs to be a rallying cry for us to actually all work together and define a program that you and I would find okay as consumers and then work with the larger ecosystems of browsers and operating system makers to actually make this into a reality.
	So what do you think the chances are that Google might eventually say, you know, that Mozilla, you know, they just really are not on board with helping humanity like we do because we have given this to all of humanity.
	We at Google have given all this beauty of recipes to all of humanity.
	And, you know, if Mozilla Firefox is not going to be on board with the acceptable ad policy, Well, I think we need to change maybe some core technologies.
	Maybe we take ownership of something and pretty much block Mozilla.
	Maybe any site that you access with Mozilla through Google, maybe we'll just throw up a block page or something.
	I don't know.
	These people are dangerous.
	Yeah.
	I think we've proven this long ago.
	Right, but I don't think you'll hear on any tech horny shows this information.
	No.
	That this is what Google is up to.
	No.
	No, no, no.
	Google's great.
	Let's do a whole show about Google.
	Well, before I go, with the tech news...
	I gotta talk about the Volkswagen.
	Well, but is that part of tech news?
	Yes.
	Well, then let me do a Snowden thing before we get into that.
	Okay.
	So, Snowden joins Twitter.
	Snowden gets...
	And how does Twitter verify that it's really Snowden?
	Did they go to Russia and verify him?
	No, the whole thing is a setup.
	The whole thing is a scam.
	It's bullcrap.
	Yes.
	And you know why?
	Because they hate you.
	I'm not talking about that.
	Well, this is clear.
	And I have to mention that we have friends inside Twitter who have spoken to people about verifying at Adam Curry.
	And what came back was they don't want to.
	No explanation, but they do not want to.
	I obviously don't care if I'm verified.
	But the fact that there's word coming saying, we don't want to verify him.
	What does that mean?
	If Martha Quinn is verified.
	I could go identify at least 100 people that are verified they have maybe 1,000 followers, and I don't even know who they are.
	Right.
	Can easily be done.
	No.
	So Snowden is back, and he's back with the Grand Green Roldan Raffin, Laura Poitras, and everybody with the Freedom of the Press organization, who encourage you to drop all your confidential documents into their secure Dropbox system.
	Okay, I'll get right on that.
	But the coincidence of Snowden showing up with, and can you hear me now?
	Right at the moment that the CISA bill has been resurrected and is about to move through Congress.
	Be on the lookout for Snowden weighing in, helping with shaping this legislation.
	CISA is Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act.
	Be on the lookout for him propagating.
	Thanks to him, we got the American Freedom Act.
	Which all it did was shift the collection of all data on you from the government to telephony companies keeping that data but being required to keep it for, what is it now, five years?
	A long time.
	A long time.
	And I believe Snowden was directly responsible for that.
	That act was co-written, co-sponsored, as far as I know, by the Freedom of the Press organization.
	So be on the lookout for the Cyber Sharing Information Security Act to be tweaked with help of Mr.
	Snowden as he continues to do all of his exciting appearances through Google Hangouts, which seems like a great secure way to do it to me.
	Well, I think yours sound like a cynical prick.
	I do.
	I learned it from you, okay?
	That's a callback that you may not understand.
	I don't.
	It was right over my head.
	Okay, so there was a kid.
	There was an anti-drug commercial back from the This Is Your Brain.
	This Is Your Brain on Drugs.
	Yeah.
	So the parents would be holding up a wooden cigar box with some plastic baggies in there with weed.
	And the parents are like, what is this?
	Where did you get this?
	Where did you learn about this?
	And the kid goes, I learned it by watching you, okay?
	I don't remember.
	That's a great idea.
	We can dig it up, dredge it up, and just use that little sub clip.
	I'll look for it.
	Why don't you get into Volkswagen and the diesel affair?
	Alright, so I started trying to catch up with the technology, having been involved in both the petroleum industry and the air pollution industry for a long time.
	I made some commentary about the catalytic converters that was a little dated.
	There's actually a three-step catalytic converter that directly addresses the NOx issues, but the sulfur in diesel engines used to be so high that it would...
	What's called poison the catalyst.
	And that's why they brought out, I figured out, they brought out this low sulfur fuel for diesels.
	So they could run different kinds of catalytic converters on the diesel engine.
	Without it getting blocked and clogged up.
	Without it getting poisoned, is the word.
	And...
	They have been running a...
	The problem is they've been running a two-stage converter because of all the bull crap that the industry has been lying about on the diesel.
	So they could put a three-stage on there.
	But there's another issue that requires something called blue liquid or blue...
	I have to write some of this stuff down to give a more thorough report.
	But apparently Mercedes uses this stuff.
	It sprays this...
	This liquid into the exhaust at the very end, and then it goes through the catalytic converter.
	It has like two or three reactions, one of them which causes cyanide gas, I might add.
	Oh, that's nice.
	But it all reacts in the converter.
	I can't believe these Germans and their gas, man.
	They've got to stop with that.
	You've got to gas it.
	You've got to stop with the gas, Germans.
	So it looks as though, to fix the problem...
	They're going to either have to...
	Because there's still issues, even coming out of a three-stage converter, with the diesel engines as they're now being manufactured with NOx because they're such high...
	They have to run...
	To run this properly, you have to run a lean fuel-to-air ratio.
	And with a high-compression engine, that creates a lot of NOx, which can be a bunch of different nitrogens.
	Nitrous oxide being one of them, I guess, is one of the major ones, which would be funny.
	It's laughing gas.
	But...
	There's a lot of nitrogen dioxide, which forms nitric acid in the air.
	Well, I guess it would be nitrogen trioxide that would form.
	Anyway, you get a bunch of acid.
	It's horrible.
	And it's also the number one cause of smog, these Noxes.
	They have to retrofit all these cars.
	I've been trying to do the calculation on retrofitting with a special converter and maybe this liquid blue crap that Mercedes uses.
	To summarize here, John...
	500 bucks a car at least.
	That's what I was going to ask.
	They couldn't just do anything with the computer software programming.
	The car would be a dog.
	It'd barely run.
	That's the way I see it.
	It won't start.
	It'll start, but it's not going to be what people bought.
	And we've got 11 million cars at 500 bucks.
	I mean, you're talking about the billions of dollars and the cost of doing it is probably even more than $500 when it costs the mechanics involved.
	You might have to do a lot of welding.
	I don't know.
	I don't see any way out of this problem.
	When I finished reading and reading, I just shook my head and said, I don't see how they can get out of this.
	There's no way.
	It can't be done.
	Well, this...
	Actually, what was the name of the clip that...
	Because I think we need to play that again.
	That this...
	The trickery was known to the BBC on Newsnight a year ago.
	Do you remember what you might have named that clip?
	It would be BBC News.
	2014, I think, is in there, in the name of the clip.
	All right, let me see what I can find.
	Yes, here we go.
	Let me just play this.
	And this is from Newsnight, correct?
	Yes.
	This is the hoity-toity Newsnight BBC program 2014.
	...software and some of its cars to cheat U.S. emissions tests.
	Well, apparently this particular dirty little secret was not so secret after all.
	Here's a clip from Newsnight from December last year when our technology editor, David Grossman, reported on car companies enhancing their test results.
	The car is actually able to detect that it's being tested because it's on a standard test cycle.
	And they can use that to put the car into a mode in which the engine is ultra-efficient or to reduce the sort of pollution that's coming out of the exhaust pipe during the test.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
	The car will know it's being tested and therefore will perform in a completely atypical way.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	That clip will be available for you today under the F Germany segment.
	And I would like to follow that up with two things.
	First, I want to wish Germany a very happy reunification day.
	This is, was it now, how many years ago was this, John?
	25 years ago, I believe.
	This is the 20th silver, is this silver anniversary?
	And of course, we want to thank David Hasselhoff for bringing the wall down.
	I received a note from a producer in the Netherlands.
	I'm going to translate this from Dutch to English on the fly.
	Hi, Adam.
	I've been working in the garage all my life as a car mechanic, particularly on corporate cars.
	Everybody in the car world has known for at least 10 years about this scam.
	In fact, it's even explained in courses how the car recognizes certain patterns and then switches to the test mode.
	So, in the car branch, this has been known for a very long time, and has been accepted, and is not only happening with VW, but with all brands.
	All brands.
	Also motorcycles.
	He says, the new Enduro Cross motorcycle.
	Who makes that, John?
	I have no idea.
	Let me see.
	Ducati?
	I don't know.
	Enduro Cross Motorcycle.
	Let's see.
	Now, I doubt that's a diesel, but here it is.
	Enduro Cross.
	That looks pretty cool.
	Who makes this thing?
	Is that a Yamaha product?
	Might be a two-stroke.
	That's a Suzuki.
	Yeah, but it doesn't matter.
	It's still trying to bypass testing.
	Yeah, I'm sure that things are polluted.
	It says with the Enduro Cross motorcycle, there are a lot of restrictions for these types of motorcycles, including the gas valve only opening up 25% when in test mode.
	Otherwise, it would never even come close to getting a type certification.
	So every single new Enduro cross motorcycle that reaches the dealer, the dealer immediately removes these restrictions, knows how to do it, and if they didn't, this motorcycle would not go any faster than 75 kilometers an hour.
	So I reiterate that this is meant specifically to screw with Germany.
	It has vast implications.
	Because we haven't hit the other VW products yet.
	Audi, kind of.
	We're getting there.
	But it won't just be diesel.
	That, I think, is the big takeaway.
	It won't be diesel.
	I also received an internal memo from Dieter Zetze, Wolfgang Bernhard, Christine Hohmann-Dennert, Ola Kellenhuis, Wilfried Pott, Hubertus Troschka, Bodo Weber, and Thomas Weber.
	This is the board of Volkswagen.
	Dear colleagues, and it was in German and in English, the quote diesel affair has dominated the media for the past two weeks and it has naturally been the subject of lively discussion also amongst the workforce.
	I think this is a shut-up workforce memo.
	Let us therefore say plainly and simply, notice what he said.
	This has naturally been the subject of lively discussion also amongst the workforce.
	Would that be lively discussion because they're like, crap, they're coming for us?
	Yeah, be lively.
	Oh God, the company's going under.
	What are we going to do?
	What else could it be?
	What other lively conversation are you going to have?
	Right?
	That would be it.
	You see?
	Let us therefore say plainly and simply, our vehicles are not manipulated and have not been manipulated in the past!
	We have never used a so-called defeat device.
	That's not the same thing.
	That applies to all of our diesel and gasoline engines worldwide.
	We comply with applicable laws and regulations and vigorously reject any accusations to the contrary.
	What?
	Yeah, do you want to comment or should I read on?
	I already thought they admitted to wrongdoing.
	No, this is Mercedes.
	Mercedes.
	Oh, Mercedes.
	You know, Mercedes, because of this goo that they spray into the car.
	Goo?
	Well, this blue stuff.
	I have to go look at it.
	It's DEF. It's a DEF. It's diesel something.
	Nice.
	Nice.
	And they have like a tank of it in the car somewhere.
	It just squirts in?
	Yeah.
	Nice.
	Listen to this.
	I've got to read this slowly.
	Let me go back.
	We defend ourselves against any tendency to cast suspicion of deception on our company.
	That is exactly what happens when other issues, such as the difference due to the laws of physics between standard fuel consumption and real fuel consumption, are mixed up with unlawful conduct, leading to accusations of deception against the entire leading to accusations of deception against the entire automobile industry.
	Break that one down, John.
	you I had to read it over and over.
	Let me read this, though.
	Diesel exhaust fluid is what it's called, the EF. Diesel exhaust fluid, commonly referred to as AdBlue in Europe, Australia, and New Zealand.
	It standardizes ISO 22241 as an aqueous urea solution, made with 32.5% high-purity urea and water.
	DEF is used as a consumable in selective catalytic reduction, SCR, in order to lower NOx concentrations.
	And Mercedes is known to use this stuff.
	I figured it out.
	I figured it out.
	Listen carefully.
	He is saying that it is unfair they are or may be implicated in deception Because of the difference of the laws of physics between standard fuel consumption and real fuel consumption.
	Then the follow-up line is, quite the contrary is true.
	We support the preparation of new laws at the European level that should specify more realistic test procedures.
	This is a punt.
	They're saying, okay, look, you're going to find some discrepancies in the test results with our cars, but that's because you're not using real fuel consumption.
	I have some experience with this recently, because I was reviewing a bunch of different electric cars, and one time I took a car up to...
	I got a car from Ford, and I took it up to Fort Angeles and back.
	And the car...
	Were you able to drag your Airstream all the way up to Port Angeles?
	It was a little puddle jumper.
	It would never pull an Airstream.
	And it got 37 miles to the gallon up and down no matter what I did.
	Now it was rated at 42 highway or something really high.
	So you had real consumption.
	I had real testing and I went and it was strange because it was exactly this gas mileage.
	No matter, in the city it was 37.
	It was a lot of good gas mileage but it was rated at like 42 or 45.
	And was that based on the onboard computer or your own calculations?
	My own calculations.
	You put fuel in, you use it, then you make a calculation.
	So there's no computer involved.
	And I asked about this because I noticed this with some other cars too.
	They all have this, whoa, 45 highway.
	And you're driving on a highway.
	I'm on the highway.
	It's five, you know, going up and back.
	I'm getting 37, which is still a good mileage for my normal, you know, I'm normally driving a car that usually has 20 miles to the gallon.
	Mm-hmm.
	But I asked about this to different sources.
	Well, it turns out that the gas mileage that you read on that little sticker that says like, you know, 30-something, 40-something.
	Or 40 in every case, 42, whatever the rating should be.
	Whatever it says.
	It's based on a very rigid test.
	With no air conditioning.
	Well, I don't even know what the test was, but apparently it's a very rigid test that the government decides.
	And it comes up with these bogus...
	These numbers are bogus!
	Yeah, they are.
	And this is...
	And I'll just finish the rest of this memo.
	So again, I'm going to say that they say we are not deceiving, but this confusion...
	I'm paraphrasing now...
	This confusion happens when other issues, such as the difference due to the laws of physics between standard fuel consumption and real fuel consumption, I don't know, whatever the laws of physics are with standard fuel consumption, when they're mixed up with unlawful conduct leading to accusations of deception against when they're mixed up with unlawful conduct leading to accusations of deception against the Quite the contrary is true.
	We support the preparation of new laws at the European level that should specify more realistic test procedures.
	So instead of changing our cars to the numbers that we say we adhere to, which we don't, we're going to have the Europeans who of course realize this attack, this is an economic attack on Germany.
	It's an economic attack by the United States.
	Yeah.
	And purposefully, because what are you doing with Putin, you stupid people?
	What are you doing with Putin?
	What are you doing with all the gas and everything from Putin?
	No, no.
	We're going to bring you down.
	Bringing you down.
	We cooperate openly, trustfully, and constructively with the responsible authorities who are all European because, you know, this is the EPA, made the accusation, but whatever.
	We've done that for many years now.
	By the way, he ends his sentence with, by the way.
	Please pass on this information actively.
	The message is crystal clear.
	We do not manipulate.
	Wir haben es nicht gewusst.
	Wir manipulieren nicht.
	You do.
	But you're not the only ones.
	Everybody lies.
	This whole thing is...
	It's the beginning of World War III. It stinks.
	It stinks.
	And you know why?
	Why?
	You know the real reason?
	I'm ready.
	Snowden.
	If the Russians would just give us Snowden, we'd stop this.
	That's right.
	Beautiful.
	Always stems back.
	If you take a look at the dates on all these things, it starts when Snowden went to Russia.
	Meanwhile, in Germany, Angela Merkel has said, you know what?
	We got all these migrants coming in.
	They're not refugees because refugees have certain rights under the Geneva Convention and United Nations treaties.
	But let's not call them refugees.
	However, we're going to take all the migrants we like.
	And Hamburg, the government has now said, they are going to confiscate empty buildings.
	If you have a building, even if you own the building, and it's empty, the German government is now going to confiscate those.
	And it's a form of...
	What do you call it here?
	Eminent domain.
	Eminent domain, thank you.
	It's a form of eminent domain, and they will then put the migrants into these buildings they have confiscated from legal owners.
	How good is that?
	Wow.
	I'm telling you, man, these people are cool.
	Well, that could be happening here any minute.
	Yeah.
	And I want to play a clip.
	I have one more tech clip and then I'm out of tech news.
	This is Obama saying the one thing he's going to do.
	The one thing he is going to do.
	And it's a tech clip.
	So the main thing I'm going to do is I'm going to talk about this.
	There you go.
	Didn't we hear this?
	Didn't we already hear this one?
	I heard it again.
	I was going to play a tech clip that affects me personally.
	As we have discussed, when I wanted to purchase an Airstream, I was unable to secure a loan initially until I finally wound up at a credit union.
	Do not look at your FICO score.
	And my score was too low.
	My score is no good.
	I'm a worthless human being.
	So finally, I got a loan, and in 15 years, the thing will be mine, which is really nice.
	But I've always wondered about these FICO corporations.
	There's a number of them.
	Which is the number one, would you say?
	There's three of them, and I think they're all equals.
	Oh, I thought that Experian was a little more...
	I don't know.
	I don't know this.
	Could be wrong.
	Okay.
	Well, here's what happened.
	Experian, the world's biggest consumer credit monitoring firm, says a massive data breach exposed personal data of about 15 million people.
	Those victims had their credit checked by Experian in the last two years when they applied for service with a carrier, T-Mobile US. Now, T-Mobile CEO John Legere said the data included social security numbers and passport data.
	But he said no credit or banking information was taken.
	He wrote on Twitter, I am moving as fast as possible to get an alternative option in place by tomorrow.
	Yeah, so the rub is that everyone got a letter saying, well, guess what?
	Experian, and I signed up in the last two years, so I'm on this list.
	When you signed up for T-Mobile, Experian checked your credit.
	We checked it with them.
	They had a big file of all the people we checked.
	Apparently 15 million is probably more, but let's just say 15 million.
	That big tarball got stolen somehow, and someone has that data.
	But you know what?
	We're going to give you two years of free credit protection from Experian, the same company that gave your data.
	This is unbelievable.
	This is only the tip of the iceberg.
	The cloud will fail.
	The cloud will fail.
	Yeah, it's bad.
	And that wraps up our technical report today.
	The only good phone's a landline, and the phone should be made out of Bakelite.
	That's right, everybody.
	Woo-ah!
	Bakelite.
	Bakelite.
	That's all I think I have.
	There's a couple more things that can wait until Thursday.
	I have some Iran stuff.
	Oh.
	We do have to discuss.
	We don't have to do it today.
	We do have to discuss eventually the offset of the six-week cycle.
	Do you want to tease that now?
	I mean, it's essentially, essentially, I said.
	It's about what happened in Roseburg.
	It's off cycle.
	There's no way it falls into anything we've ever seen or heard before.
	I think this was a special event.
	I think it was a special events team.
	I don't know.
	Maybe.
	I think the cycle may not be used anymore with a new guy.
	Comey.
	I would like you to...
	Actually, I want you to end up with a clip.
	Could you please?
	Because I haven't heard it, but it looks interesting and I have a thought about it.
	Nora O'Donnell on the $10 bill.
	Oh, yes.
	Okay.
	I'd like to talk about that as our final topic.
	I have a thought.
	Okay, so Nora O'Donnell has got Jack Lew, which just looks weird to me.
	He's our Secretary of Finance.
	Secretary of the Treasury.
	Yeah, he's the money man.
	He's the guy who signs the bills.
	The money man.
	And every one of those bills is hand-signed by him.
	Did you know that?
	Not robo-signed?
	No, it's not signed at all.
	It's printed.
	I'm just kidding.
	If you have old Confederate bonds and things like that, you will see that they were all hand-signed.
	It's kind of fascinating.
	I've collected a few.
	So Nora O'Donnell, who I really have a lot of respect.
	respect.
	I always thought she was one of the bright spots in the CBS morning show.
	But she's obviously just another bonehead.
	Here she is interviewing Jack Lew, and she is giddy about it.
	She doesn't even care who it is.
	She's giddy about Jack Lew, or just giddy in general?
	She's giddy about a woman being on one of the bills, and she doesn't even care which bill.
	Whoever the man was that was on the bill, screw him, get him off.
	And Jack Lew kind of admits that they don't even know if they're going to put a woman on, and then maybe just on the back.
	Where she belongs.
	Which disappoints the hell out of her.
	And you can listen to her disappointment in this process of this interview.
	Market forces play a stronger role.
	They have agreed to refrain from competitive devaluation.
	And ultimately, it has to be proven by the policy steps taken, not just the commitments at the meetings.
	The $10 bill.
	You said there's going to be a woman on the $10 bill?
	What I said was we're going to put a woman on our currency.
	We're looking at the $10 bill.
	It's the next bill that we're going to be issuing.
	And we have spent the summer listening to the American people.
	And I have to say I'm really pleased how many people we've heard from.
	When does that decision get made?
	We'll make a decision.
	It's a decision that ultimately I'm going to have to pull these pieces together and make by the end of the year.
	By the end of the year.
	And are you saying that it might go beyond just the $10 bill, that there may also be a woman on the $5 bill, another bill?
	Look at the series of bills that will come out with new security features.
	Our fundamental responsibility is to make sure our money is safe, that it can't be counterfeited easily.
	So the reason we picked the $10 bill is it's the next bill that requires updating.
	But we have multiple bills that are going to be redesigned.
	And one of the things that has come out of this conversation...
	There are women across the world cheering!
	Just as you said that.
	One of the things that has come out of this conversation is that very few people know what's on the back of any of our bills.
	So you're going to put women on the back of a bill?
	I'm saying we're going to tell the story of American democracy as we unveil the new series of bills.
	And women will be a prominent part of that.
	So there you have it.
	Women will be a prominent part of that, and there's different ways they can change the $10 bill, both the front and the back.
	So we'll have some redesigned currency that better reflects our society.
	Gail and Charlie.
	All right.
	Oh, wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	So she says women across the world.
	Does that include the United Kingdom, where the Queen has been on the bill?
	Australia.
	There are listeners from Australia.
	Scandinavia.
	Are you kidding me?
	Yeah, we're African.
	Well, I figured it out.
	I know what's going to happen.
	It hit me last night, and when I saw that clip, I knew I wanted to bring it up.
	This is a ruse, because I know who's going to be on the $10 bill.
	Then it's going to be, they're going to say, well, next time it'll be a woman.
	But this time, Barack Obama.
	Guaranteed.
	There's a rule about living people on the bills.
	You can't do it.
	Okay.
	There's no Barack Obama showing up on a bill.
	Okay.
	National Enquirer, front page, Hillary, colon, six months to live.
	This is a variation we hadn't thought of.
	Listen to this.
	I'm looking at it right now.
	Well, then she's never going to get elected.
	Hillary, colon, six months to live.
	Brain cancer and blood clots.
	MS, strokes and alcohol abuse.
	And there's an inset with Bill.
	Cruel Bill forces her to stay on campaign trail.
	I had not seen this one coming.
	Boy, I didn't see that one coming.
	That's a beauty.
	Here's the abstract.
	Failing health and a deadly thirst for power are driving Hillary Clinton to an early grave.
	The National Enquirer has learned in a bombshell investigation, and they pay for their information.
	They do pay for their stuff.
	They'll bribe people to get this information.
	The desperate and deteriorating 67-year-old won't make it to the White House because she'll be dead in six months, sources told the Enquirer.
	Amazingly, her ultra-competitive husband is the one pressuring her to stay on the campaign trail despite her decline.
	But we do know that she was out of the picture for a while after she supposedly collapsed or bumped her head.
	So we do have that issue, which has still never been fully resolved or discussed.
	But I think this is a...
	So we certainly initially thought that it would be great to kill off Bill or have him be sick and she'll have to drop out.
	This is better.
	Oh, you know, I really, you know, Bill is making me do it.
	He's forcing me.
	You know, I can't, I have to stay in for the family, for the good of America, even though I only have six months to live.
	You know what?
	I've consulted with my doctors and I think I should drop out and give all my money to Elizabeth Warren or Joe Biden.
	Well, we have to do a little research on this.
	The research is done.
	It's right there.
	It's fact.
	No, no, the research to confirm.
	Oh!
	Like, you're looking for stuff, you know, to confirm certain things.
	The thing that I'd like to see is, you know, you have to file to be on the ballot.
	Yeah, a certain date.
	You've got to hurry.
	Yeah, and the national date, I'm not sure what the national date is, when you have to file to be on the national ballot.
	But I know the primary ballots have a date that's coming up.
	And one of them is sometime this month, I understand.
	That's why they're all talking about Biden, Biden, Biden.
	He's got to sign up.
	So we have to find some evidence that Elizabeth Warren is going to sign up because it's not running.
	Okay.
	I mean, I do have a...
	I don't know how we can do that.
	Well, she's out and about.
	My millennial sources in Arkansas are all over Warren now because now she's doing big Black Lives Matter speeches.
	She did a big Planned Parenthood speech.
	You want to hear that quickly and then we'll get out of here?
	Yeah.
	This is really about, is about women's access to abortion.
	And even though not one federal dollar goes to pay for abortions through Planned Parenthood, the Republicans want to find one more way to make it harder, to make it impossible for a woman who is facing one of the most difficult decisions of her life.
	They want to find a way to make it harder on her to get the healthcare she needs.
	And all I can say is, we've been in that world before.
	When I talk about 1955, I'm talking about a world where women died.
	I'm talking about a world where women committed suicide rather than go forward with a pregnancy they could not handle.
	And what the Republicans are saying is they want to go back, and I want to make it clear we are not going back.
	Not now, not ever.
	Good luck beating her.
	Right?
	She is a total kickass.
	She will squash any Republican that runs against her if she is nominated for the president.
	And she was the first one to come out and say Republicans don't want women to have access to abortions.
	She didn't say health care.
	She said abortions.
	She is frighteningly good.
	This is my last thing.
	A friend of mine who I was talking with two days ago, a woman here in Austin, and we were talking about Trump and everything.
	She says, you know, I didn't vote for Obama the last time.
	And I said, oh, okay.
	She said, yeah, but I can't let anybody know here in Austin because we had a party, like a vote party, and there were women there who said to me, if you don't vote Democrat, you hate your vagina.
	Wow.
	Literal text.
	Well, you know, they're pulling this off.
	I'm in awe, but I know it's going to happen.
	It's going to be a one-term presidency, and it's going to damn near collapse the country.
	Okay.
	It's walking right into the throat of a depression.
	Hello, throat of depression.
	You look so tempting, but we know what's down lower on that throat.
	All right, everybody, please, for the 30% of women who listen to the No Agenda show...
	That's 30% of our audience who are female.
	Don't hate your vagina.
	No.
	And don't blame it on Republicans.
	No.
	Trust me.
	Republicans, Democrats, we all love vagina.
	And with that happy message, I will say thank you all for your courage for dropping by.
	We'll be back on Thursday with another episode of the best podcast in the universe.
	Please remember us at dvorak.org slash na.
	And coming to you from the center of Antebellum 2.0 here in Austin, Texas.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We will return on Thursday with another episode right here on No Agenda.
	And remember us at dvorak.org slash N.A.
	This yours?
	No, I'm just...
	Your mother said she found it in your closet.
	I don't know, one of the guys was...
	The closet of what?
	Look, Daddy, why...
	Why don't you get it?
	Daddy...
	Answer me!
	Who taught you how to do this stuff?
	You, all right?
	I learned it by watching you!
	Hi, everybody.
	You can either stay and be quiet or we'll have to take you out.
	I have two words for you.
	Predator drums.
	And if she tempts you with a charm.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	Don't hurt me now for her love belongs to you.
	Same on you.
	And if she should tell you.
	You shouldn't be doing this.
	Whoa, whoa, whoa.
	Hey.
	And if she tempts you with a charm.
	Yeah, listen.
	No, no, no, no.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	Come on guys.
	No, no, no, no, no, no.
	Come on.
	Don't hurt me now for her love belongs to me.
	I know she's the kind of girl who drove my love away.
	You're in my house.
	But I still love her.
	Can we escort this person out?
	All right.
	Can we have this person removed, please?
	Come on, guys.
	no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no come on No, no, no.
	That's how we go.
	That's how we roll.
	And that's the story.
	So the main thing I'm going to do is I'm going to talk about this.
	Unicorns!
	Yay!
	Unicorns!
	Yay!
	And wash your hands after touching any raw meat.
	How about a parasite baby?
	How about a bloodsucker baby?
	How about a vampire baby?

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