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	Oh, please.
	Yeah.
	This just gets worse.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Sunday, September 27th, 2015.
	Time once again for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 760.
	This is no agenda.
	Flying solo in the airstream of consciousness once again on the I Love Blondie Tour, broadcasting live from Salt Lake City, Utah.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm not in a trailer, I'm John C. DeVore.
	It's Crackbott and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Oh.
	No, no.
	You should be happy you're not.
	You're in the trailer again.
	I am.
	Solo.
	Solo.
	Uh, did you go to Yellowstone?
	I did.
	I did.
	Ah.
	Tina the Keeper and I went to Yellowstone?
	And lost all connectivity with the world for a glorious 48 hours.
	There's no connectivity in Yellowstone?
	Surprisingly, when you get near Old Faithful, there is a spot where all of a sudden there's some cell connectivity.
	Not enough to do a show with, but yeah, pretty good.
	It was nice, man.
	It was nice up there.
	Did you visit the hotel?
	The hotel?
	Yeah, the famous hotel.
	What famous hotel?
	The one that's in Yellowstone.
	I don't know.
	What hotel?
	I don't know.
	I can't remember.
	Don't ask me questions!
	No, no famous hotel.
	We saw Old Faithful.
	That was nice.
	Yeah, it goes off.
	And everything about it reminded me of every cartoon I've seen about Old Faithful, like the Flintstones.
	It's very distinct.
	If you don't even know what it looks like and you see it going off, because there's a bunch of other geysers that go off.
	Oh, yeah, like the Beehive geyser.
	Oh, the Beehive's a good one.
	And that goes off every 10 hours.
	And that's a big one.
	That's a big one.
	So the thing about Old Faithful is, no one knows when it's going to erupt.
	They only have estimated times.
	I thought it was like every 40 minutes.
	It used to be called Old Faithful.
	I know a little of this, because I went there a lot when I was a kid, and I've been there recently, but not that recently.
	But it used to go off routinely every one hour, and that's why it was called Old Faithful.
	But people started throwing chairs down the hall.
	I mean, vandals.
	I didn't know about this.
	Yeah.
	They were throwing crap in there and peeing in it and doing all this stuff.
	And over time, it's just like the clockwork thing is over, so it's not like anywhere from 45 minutes to two hours.
	Yeah, it's 45 minutes to like an hour and 38 minutes.
	And so what's cool is there's this observation deck right off of the Old Faithful Lodge or whatever the hell it is.
	Maybe that's the hotel you're talking about.
	So we sat there just drinking cocktails waiting for this thing to blow.
	That was pretty nice.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	The thing, again, that I was trying to get at about Old Faithful is that if you're just randomly looking at geysers and you see this one, it is so distinctive looking.
	Yes.
	Because there's a little breeze that comes from a certain angle.
	It sprays.
	Yeah, it's pretty.
	It just looks like Old Faithful.
	It does.
	It does.
	Some of these other ones are just boom, they just look like anything.
	So there was like three guys sitting at the bar, old guys, locals apparently, whose only job is to go sit there and say, yeah, we think it'll be 2.37 today, but hang around because you want to see the beehive.
	It only goes off every 10 hours and it'll go off just one minute after Old Faithful.
	About 40 minutes.
	Two old coops.
	Three.
	40 minutes after Old Faithful went, and we're like, okay, we're giving up on the beehive.
	But here's something of note.
	This, of course, is the perfect time right now.
	The trees changing color, everything changing color.
	Spectacular.
	Just spectacular how beautiful everything was, or is.
	The park is filled with two kinds of people, and a lot of them are the same kind of people.
	One is photographers just everywhere.
	You see lenses poking out, people walking backwards onto the road, just completely nuts about walking.
	Oh yeah, you have to be careful.
	And the place is filled with Chinese, and usually they're the same person.
	So the place is just...
	Thousands!
	You should have Chinese, not Japanese?
	Thousands.
	No, and I looked it up.
	Yellowstone, a magnet for fast-growing ranks of Chinese tourists.
	It was really noticeable, John.
	And the Chinese are rude.
	I'm going to generalize.
	The Chinese from China, they're rude.
	They push around.
	They jump in line.
	We've talked about this before.
	They do.
	They spit on the ground.
	They're hawking everywhere.
	Yeah, they walk right...
	Just, man, rude!
	Which is their culture.
	No, it's not rude to them.
	No, it's their culture, I understand.
	They're rude to you.
	Yeah.
	A lot of them love going to Yellowstone because there's shooting ranges that you can shoot all kinds of guns, which, of course, the Chinese can't do in their home country of China.
	Stay away from those places.
	No gun etiquette.
	Zero.
	But it was very noticeable.
	Not in the campground, by the way.
	No Chiners camping.
	No Chiners camping.
	It was nice of it.
	We stayed in the Teton Park camping ground, just right outside of the park.
	It was good.
	I set up the buddy pole, did a couple of QSOs from 8,000 feet, which was nice.
	Do you have your card?
	A QSL card?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You do?
	Yeah.
	Yes, I have a...
	You don't have a QSL card?
	No.
	John, you gave my Epic No Agenda beer to your freaking kid.
	Why would I send you a card?
	That was my beer I gave to my kid.
	Okay.
	So my beer is still there?
	Yes, your beer is still here.
	Okay, good.
	But it was a little surprising.
	I thought the drive to Salt Lake City from Yellowstone would be a little shorter.
	It still took a good six and a half hours.
	And part of the reason is you go through the pass, which is a 10% incline and decline grade.
	And I'm happy to announce that the rig performed brilliantly going up.
	That's pretty steep, 10%.
	Yeah, especially when you're towing something.
	Yeah, and I saw the thermometer, the engine temperature move up a little bit, but it wasn't too bad.
	Going downhill is the more dangerous part.
	Yes, yes.
	I recommend something for you.
	Okay.
	So they have these...
	I think they have them in the Rockies.
	Sure they do.
	They must.
	They have some trucks when they're going downhill, especially if the incline is more than 10%, sometimes you can be as high as 15%.
	And they have these little areas that you can turn out to.
	You turn...
	You're out of control.
	Yeah, it's a runaway truck ramp.
	Yeah, there's a ramp.
	And so you turn into it and it's all...
	It's gravel.
	You basically get buried in gravel.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So my recommendation to you, because it's always possible that bad things can happen, just do a dry run into it.
	Yeah, no.
	No.
	By the way, the Ford, if you set the cruise control, it does downshift and brake on the engine as much as possible when going downhill.
	That was pretty impressive.
	Most cruise controls try to slow you down.
	Yeah, but the last car I had, John, was a Dodge Ram from 2002.
	I was happy the thing would go down.
	It would roll.
	Yeah.
	We had a great meet-up last night in Salt Lake City.
	It's at Justin Peck's house where we had the same meet-up on the previous tour.
	That was three years ago now.
	Oh, good.
	Yeah, and a lot of familiar faces there.
	Sherry, Sherry Osborne, the rain stick lady.
	Ah!
	Yep.
	And she pleaded with me.
	Yes, she says you need to shake it a lot more.
	But she also said, please ask John to be a little careful with it, because they do work, you know.
	It was really nice.
	One of the producers brought his wife...
	And she didn't want me to mention where she works or her name, but she was really nervous.
	First of all, she was super cute.
	She was looking nervous, and I couldn't quite figure it out.
	At a certain point, she was about ready to leave with her husband, and he was really cool.
	And she says, well, what do you think of your no agenda experience?
	I don't feel good about this.
	What do you mean?
	Well, you're talking about migrants and about Trump.
	Are you like a hate group?
	Yeah, only hate groups talk about Trump.
	But it was specifically about migrants.
	Now, it turns out she teaches English as a second language mainly to...
	Migrants.
	Well, yes.
	People planning on migrating, but from the Middle East.
	A lot of Iranians, Saudis.
	I think mainly Saudis, probably.
	But anyway, it was beautiful because she had all these things in her head about...
	You know, the migrant, you know, that we hate the migrants and we want them all dead.
	And like, hold on a second, where are you getting this from?
	And that Trump, you know, he said, you know, Megyn Kelly was a bimbo on her period.
	I said, no, he didn't actually say that.
	Yes, he did.
	No, no, no.
	No, he didn't say that.
	And what it turned into was a on-the-spot live mouth-hitting exercise.
	And it was really cool.
	Everyone sat there and we all kind of were very careful.
	We were, of course, surrounding her.
	What, the whole group of No Agenda-ites?
	Yes, everybody was.
	Surrounding this one?
	Why was she there in the first place?
	She was with her husband, who's a producer and a listener.
	But he should be able to hear her.
	Well, you know what?
	I think not only did we save her, we saved their marriage.
	She walked out of there and she sent me an email.
	I'm so surprised.
	I had no idea.
	I knew I was being bullcrap by the news.
	I even started to question NPR. NPR needs to be questioned.
	It was truly beautiful.
	And I think we have a valuable resource.
	She talks to all of these young people.
	Millennials.
	In the Middle East, and she has all kinds of information.
	I'm sure the millennials from...
	Well, that's the Iranians.
	We have one of our contacts, the guy Mohammed, who's in Bahrain, sends us notes.
	I think I'll read one of them today.
	And he discusses the millennials in Iran.
	He sent me a letter with...
	And I was actually stunned by this, and I'll put it in the next newsletter, people.
	Sign up for the newsletter so you can get this picture.
	Microsoft has already opened a store.
	Yes, I saw this.
	You saw the picture.
	The store in, I guess it's in Tehran.
	Mm-hmm.
	And I'm thinking, how does this happen?
	I thought this is where we haven't lifted the sanctions.
	I didn't think this was legal.
	I think a part of that email that came in is you should do a search on Rich Kids of Tehran?
	Yeah, something like that.
	For Instagram, Rich Kids of Tehran.
	Man, they got it made there, bro!
	I don't know about bro, but first of all, nothing but hot Persian chicks.
	With bling.
	The church are beautiful.
	With bling.
	They don't particularly like the veils and all that stuff.
	No, no.
	But it's always good to see that because you have no idea.
	You think, yeah, a bunch of sand bunnies there.
	Yeah, I'm going to blow them up.
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Nuke them all.
	Of course, this Muslim thing came up in a tweet with you.
	Some guy, this is a guy that was on the Twitter going, well, I listen to no agenda at all.
	This is anti-Muslim.
	Oh, no, no, no.
	Islam.
	Islamophobe.
	Islamophobes.
	Islamophobes.
	And he said the whole show was nothing about Muslims.
	Was he listening to our show?
	I don't know what he was listening to.
	Well, the guy's from media.
	He's from Hillary Clinton's front organization, Media Matters.
	Media Matters.
	I know.
	I saw it.
	Whatever.
	But this is a part of something that's going on now that I picked up, and I'll just call it the Antebellum 2.0 as that continues, as we continue to separate everybody between the science deniers, the all-in believers, the politically correct, the non-PC, the multicultural society.
	But at the end of the day, I said it, At the end of the day, Republicans hate Muslims.
	One person who is also benefiting from that possibly is Dr.
	Ben Carson.
	This is Don Lemon with Frank Rich, who I think he used to write for the New York Times.
	I'm not sure what he does now.
	Comments about, you know, not necessarily he wouldn't support a Muslim as President of the United States.
	He said after that comment, money has been pouring in.
	Why do you think he's benefiting from this?
	Because there is a racist, bigoted part of the Republican base.
	His own campaign manager said to the New York Post a couple of days ago, the Republican in the primary electorate is 80 to 20 on our side on these anti-Muslim comments.
	But what do people see in him?
	Because he's a minority.
	He's an African-American.
	This is funny how Don Lemon can't get it into his head that racism is not just against black people.
	It can be against all kinds of minorities.
	And it's hard for him to parse it.
	I don't get it, but, you know, he's a devout Christian, and maybe he thinks Muslims...
	Well, I'm saying because you said there's a racist element out there appealing, but he is a black man.
	He is a black man, and there's been Republican support for other black candidates.
	Herman Cain last time.
	Nonetheless, you know, it doesn't mean it applies to everybody, but I think Muslims are the new sort of target of this kind of racism.
	Muslim is the new black.
	Muslim is the new black.
	Only Don Lemon can say it.
	Muslim is the new black.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Yeah.
	The Republicans saw...
	This is what I derived from this.
	Republicans saw that they weren't getting anything.
	It just wasn't working.
	This hating black people, it wasn't really talking to the base.
	So they switched and they became racist against Muslims because that's the new black.
	Well, they have to be racist against something or they wouldn't be Republicans.
	Exactly.
	Oh, man.
	It was so beautiful to see someone.
	The light just went on in her eyes, John.
	I'm sorry, but I'm still back at the image of some poor woman surrounded by no agendites, all staring her down like a bunch of cats with a mouse in the middle.
	Someone posted a picture on Facebook of the actual occurrence.
	It's pretty cool.
	We're all sitting there in folding chairs in Justin's...
	You know, it's a man cave filled with, you know, it's like a Ted Kaczynski, you know, filled with AR-15s and, you know...
	It's kind of depressing, on the other hand, when somebody says...
	And I think this is common with our show.
	They generalize about the show.
	They're just conspiracy theorists.
	I thought you guys were just conspiracy theorists, which is a put-down right off the bat, which means they're not really on your side on anything, which that Media Matters guy did.
	Yeah, oh, totally.
	When did you guys become Islamophobes?
	I just thought you were just conspiracy theory guys.
	I didn't know you were Islamophobes.
	Islamophobes.
	Ah, yeah.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	No, but it was good.
	And it works.
	The whole, the entire structure of media works that way.
	And I'm continuing, of course, with the...
	Ah, three by three.
	It's only in a sixth week.
	You're exaggerating.
	Okay, fifth.
	I'm just coming up to week two.
	People were saying this yesterday at the meetup.
	It was a good meetup.
	People had driven seven, eight hours with their kids.
	Kids wearing cool no-agenda t-shirts.
	It was super nice.
	Sorry, there's a little bit of noise here.
	People are moving.
	I'm in the Salt Lake City campground.
	Oh, you're still in the campground?
	They didn't kick you out?
	No, no.
	Uh...
	The plan is, right after the show, after everything's posted and I'm good to go, to drive, I think it's four and a half or five hours to Moab.
	I'm on my way home now.
	You're heading back.
	I'm heading back.
	I dropped Tina to keep her off at the airport yesterday.
	She had to fly back.
	What did you fly out of?
	Salt Lake City International.
	That's a good airport.
	Yeah, they let me drop her off with the Airstream.
	There was no height restriction.
	For drop-off, at least.
	Yeah, well, that's because I believe the U.S. government hates Mormons so much they hope somebody comes in and blows up the airport.
	This is also what is interesting about the meet-up here, and I recall this from last year.
	There were people currently in the Mormon church.
	There were former LDSers.
	Everyone just kind of gets along.
	Welcome to Utah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Yeah, there's everyone.
	There's some relation, generally, or...
	Yeah, they get along fine.
	In fact, this is one of the friendliest groups of people you've ever run into is Utah folks.
	Truly, truly.
	Except when they're playing football.
	I don't know about that.
	It's going to be a bunch of dirty teams.
	No offense.
	Yeah, be careful.
	Um...
	Well, let's listen to a little of the 3x3 analysis.
	Yes, 3x3.
	With ABC is one of the stations.
	They're pushing George Bush.
	Not George Bush, but Jeb.
	Let us explain again.
	This is because Jeb Bush, the governor of Florida, Florida has big Disneyland, lots of deals, lots of concessions, lots of things Disney was allowed to do.
	Disney owns ABC. ABC then plugs Jeb Bush.
	Very simple, straightforward deconstruction.
	But they can't just come out and say, we think you should vote for Bush.
	So they have all kinds of different ways of doing it.
	So let's play a couple of them.
	My favorite one, this one here's a good one.
	This is the ABC push for Bush.
	Rubio rising in the polls and taking on Trump.
	But he can't have a conversation about policy because, quite frankly, he doesn't know anything about policy.
	But Trump does know how to fight, and now he's all over Rubio.
	I think he's a baby.
	Trump's fire once squarely trained on Jeb Bush, but now Bush facing criticism over something he said about how to attract African American voters.
	Our message is one of hope and aspiration.
	It isn't one of division and get in line and we'll take care of you with free stuff.
	Singer John Legend tweeting, it's always the guys born on third base talking about black people lining up for free stuff.
	David, tonight I spoke with senior members of the Jeb Bush campaign who tell me Bush's comments are being taken out of context, that he was talking about empowering people because the Democrats' war on poverty has failed.
	David?
	Tom Yamas with us again tonight.
	Tom, thanks.
	They've got to get on board.
	It's not about black people anymore.
	Muslim is the new black.
	Now, the way that story was presented, I thought was remarkable.
	It was actually very pro-Bush.
	It was.
	And the funny thing is, this little incident with John Legend tweeting something was played by no other station.
	No other network picked this up.
	They didn't care.
	No, of course not.
	It was just like, what can we do to get Bush back in the news?
	Well, let's dream something up.
	This reminded me, by the way, when I heard this with this setup, this situation that was created and then solved all at the same time reminded me of you and that crazy thing you did about the douchebag drug guy.
	And by the way, about the douchebag drug guy...
	You mean the guy who almost mailed my drugs to the governor?
	What?
	What drug guy are you talking about?
	You had a thing on the last show about that drug guy who hiked the price of that Paris city.
	Oh, that drug.
	I thought you were talking about important drugs.
	Oh, okay, yeah.
	The so-called...
	Now, wait a minute.
	I told you about Danny the drug dealer when he gave me his child support checks and almost mailed my weed to the...
	To the government?
	You're right, you're right.
	Anyway, so this douchebag drug guy, Buzzkill Jr.
	at the dinner table brought up the idea that if he wanted to deconstruct this whole episode, it was about...
	The drug companies all do this.
	So let's find some patsy, a straw man, who happens to be a hedge fund manager, so we can make the association that all creeps are financial guys.
	Don't pay attention to us, the drug guys.
	You know, you should do a show with him.
	No.
	Okay.
	Anyway, so they create this phony baloney situation, and they come out and make Bush, oh, Bush is great, Bush is great.
	I didn't actually hear that.
	That's the way, in my mind, I realized that clip.
	Now, here's the other one.
	This is again ABC. Now, they're out to get...
	They don't want Trump.
	Everyone's against Trump.
	They're trying to get rid of him, and they're doing everything they can.
	And they play everything very coy, the way they say, oh, he's falling in the ratings, but he's still 10 points ahead of everybody, and probably more.
	But listen to this.
	Talk about a stretch of a way to slam some guy.
	This is the WTF clip about Trump using the word shrill.
	This is like the big lead-in.
	Turn now to the race for 2016 and to a new poll.
	The numbers tonight, one poll showing a Republican candidate quickly on the rise.
	And it's not Donald Trump.
	It is Carly Fiorina.
	Trump meantime, facing new criticism for his choice of words, describing a woman in the race, not Fiorina, but Hillary Clinton, calling her, quote, shrill.
	Some critics now asking, would Trump have used that word to describe a man?
	Well, social justice warriors, get out your swords!
	Oh no!
	He said something anti-feminine.
	Misogynistic a-hole.
	He said shrill.
	The funny thing is that the way they play this story, he wouldn't have said it about men.
	Of course, then he played part two that he actually says he would, but I don't know whether...
	Well, before we do that, can I slide in here?
	What is happening the way I see it?
	Now, your beat is the three by three.
	CNN is jumping on board.
	And we know that this is ultimately all about advertising, advertising rates.
	We know that Trump still brings in ratings.
	More importantly, the news networks.
	All networks know that he brings in ratings.
	And we always need to have some kind of horse race.
	We need controversy.
	We need people, you know, like, freaking out about stuff.
	It has to be a close race.
	So they have now teed up this showdown, which is what it comes down to.
	The showdown between Trump and Fiorina.
	Yeah!
	In style.
	Vladimir Putin is saying he wants to meet with Trump when he comes here.
	And that he wants to sit down and have a conversation with him.
	You've met Putin.
	I have.
	Well, the two of them have a lot in common, actually.
	We'll just leave it at that.
	This as GOP frontrunner Donald Trump continues ramping up his criticism of Fiorina.
	I find it to be very robotic and I think a bigger problem frankly is her horrible tenure at various companies that frankly were destroyed.
	Fiorina shrugging it off.
	I don't spend a lot of time on the campaign trail thinking about Donald Trump.
	I really don't and so I'm going to keep doing what I've been doing.
	But her campaign telling supporters in an email we could The point, Mr.
	Trump, you're worried.
	You should be.
	You'll be seeing a lot more of that face.
	Trump also renewing his war against Fox News on Twitter, tweeting, I am having a really hard time watching Fox News.
	And after seeing his poll numbers slide following last week's debate, Trump telling New York Magazine, I wasn't treated fairly by CNN, and it shouldn't have been three hours long.
	It was too long.
	A departure from what Trump initially said following the debate.
	They were very professional in the way they handled it.
	CNN did a very good job.
	So what they're doing here is pitting Trump against Fiorina.
	The poll numbers, it's all irrelevant.
	But they say, okay, now we'll focus on these two.
	Here's our little script.
	Here's our little reality show we're going to work on.
	Tit for tat.
	Also made Trump look like a whining, sad loser bitch.
	And a liar.
	But the most important thing about this clip...
	I saw Carly Fiorina move her eyebrows.
	It's wearing off.
	The question is...
	I actually think...
	Yeah, they don't move very far, but...
	No, but I saw them move, and the question is, will she up, will she re-up the Botox?
	Or will she get stabbed again?
	Well, it's every three months.
	You know, you kind of got to maintain that stuff.
	So if...
	We wouldn't use it.
	Yeah, except for...
	Yeah.
	Let me get back to my shrill thing.
	Because I never finished the point I was going to make, which was, shrill and Hillary Clinton has been a term associated with her, I don't know, for how long?
	She's always had a shrill.
	I've been called shrill for a decade.
	Yeah.
	So why is it now such a big deal?
	Well, it was just obviously just a lead and to just do a cheap shot at Trump.
	Now, I've been picking up on memes.
	One of them, and everybody uses them, all the networks.
	They use sliding his numbers or sliding.
	Sliding, yeah.
	Falling numbers.
	And then the one that I like, I think Katie Turr, and I have another Katie Turr report, and she's just out to get him.
	Yeah.
	I've heard on two or three stations now, and it was on the clip that I played last show, where they talk about the half-empty room in South Carolina.
	Empty seats, half-empty room.
	He's speaking to a half-empty crowd.
	I'm now, because I've heard this so many times, I'm now thinking that the half-empty room was a dirty trick.
	Possibly.
	Because dirty tricks, of course, are part of the political landscape.
	We don't hear as much about him as he used to during the Nixon administration when he had this enemy who was always playing dirty tricks on him.
	And he was apolitical, this guy.
	I can't remember his name.
	People can probably, someone in the chat room might remember it.
	But this guy was the bane of Nixon.
	He would dress up in chicken suits with signs that said something silly.
	He was getting more attention than Nixon for a long time because he was just humiliating Nixon constantly.
	And I think that this has never really left the political scene, this sort of dirty tricks.
	And I think the half-empty room was a dirty trick.
	Somehow the thing was canceled or everyone was told it was canceled.
	Who knows?
	But it seems like a dirty trick because it's become a meme.
	But let's get to the WTF2 clip, which is the wrap-up of the evil Donald Trump.
	And I want to stop for a second and mention to people listening to this Donald Trump analysis, where we do a lot of...
	What we're doing is showing you how the media is trying to manipulate the public.
	And right now, Trump is just the absolute best example of evidence of this.
	Yes, and I believe he will wind up holding the short end of the stick on this.
	He has no idea.
	When I saw that, I'll just call her a new producer to the show yesterday, even the name Donald Trump, there was fire-filled hate in her eyes.
	Good.
	Seriously.
	Of course.
	And I'm like, wow.
	It works so well.
	And people know so little.
	They listen.
	They get headlines.
	They just hear something.
	He's an a-hole.
	He hates women.
	He hates Muslims.
	He hates Muslims.
	He's going to kill all the immigrants.
	Right.
	It's like you can see people who are informed purely by Facebook.
	You can just see them.
	Yeah.
	Alright, part two.
	Anyway, this is a very good study.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	I just think this is a good study to follow this.
	With new polls showing Donald Trump's lead shrinking, his newly emboldened rivals are calling him out as thin-skinned and ill-informed.
	If I kept talking to all the people who attacked me, I would have crawled under a rock long ago.
	That's part of it, you know?
	A new poll tonight showing Fiorina now in second place in New Hampshire.
	And just behind her, Marco Rubio also taking aim at Trump.
	He's not well informed on the issues.
	He really never talks about issues and can't have more than a 10-second soundbite on any key issue.
	He's a very touchy and insecure guy.
	All week, Trump ripping into his competition.
	Rubio, I've never seen a young guy sweat that much.
	No, I've never seen...
	He's drinking water, water, water.
	I never saw anything like this with him with the water.
	And today, Trump fending off new accusations of sexism after this comment about Hillary Clinton.
	And Hillary, who's become very shrill.
	You know the word shrill?
	She's become shrill.
	Trump insisting he would say the same thing about a man.
	I think the word shrill doesn't apply to women exclusively.
	She's gotten very loud.
	She's gotten very boisterous.
	And that can happen to men too, Caddy.
	And David Trump now making a big push for evangelicals.
	Tomorrow, making an appearance at the Values Voters Summit in Washington, D.C. And on Monday, inviting more than a dozen church leaders to Trump Tower.
	I wanted to tack on to that because we have that Hillary laugh.
	I think your analysis of that was, yes, she has to appear more friendly and they have a whole new way of her to act.
	I caught Fareed Zakaria, who of course is an insider, even though he claims himself to be a journalist.
	He's pretty much a columnist who plagiarizes, frequently.
	Oh yeah.
	And he was talking, I guess he was being asked about Clinton and how...
	You know, if she has a shot or whatever.
	So he's all in.
	But then he has a little tell at the end of this clip.
	Look, they have to be worried.
	It would be silly not to be worried.
	The truth of the matter is Hillary Clinton is an incredibly impressive public figure, in my opinion.
	She's very intelligent.
	She's always very well briefed.
	She's very smart on policy.
	She's put out more policy papers, I think, than any of the other candidates.
	She has trouble with the sort of charisma element, you know?
	And the fact that that is always a struggle for her produces, you know, invites some of this.
	And she hasn't had the ability to do what Clinton just did.
	Which is to explain the email controversy with this long arc.
	He has this way of effortlessly explaining it all, which I think if she could do with a smile, it would change things.
	There you go.
	With a smile.
	They've talked about it.
	It's so obvious.
	She's a little actress, little Meryl Streep she is.
	Yeah, it's outstanding.
	Yeah, she's very good at it.
	Now, some of the memes, and you heard them in the last clip played, and you'll hear more of them, but the one that they're really, they're experimenting with memes to make Trump look like an idiot.
	They booed him at that event they talked about, the Family Values event, because he jumped on Rubio.
	They don't like that they love Rubio.
	Yeah.
	I didn't get this clip, but after hearing Rubio, his comment about Rubio being so damn thirsty, Rubio, when he went to this event, he says, why do I need eight bottles of water?
	Yeah, well, we've seen you.
	This is well known for this.
	But the one that they're really trying to, is the issues one, he doesn't talk issues, and then the one they're really going after because they know it's damaging.
	And they did it in that clip.
	Thin-skinned.
	Yes, same thing with a sore loser.
	Sore loser, whiny bitch, thin skin.
	And to prove that, I want to just listen to this little piece from, this is the Trump CBS. This is a tease for tonight's show on 60 Minutes.
	Trump's going to be interviewed by Scott Pelley.
	And this is the teaser for it that was on the CBS Evening News.
	This is the Trump CBS does not like lies, but listen to how it's set up.
	The billionaire front-runner is harsh on his critics and we asked him about that for 60 minutes.
	Why so thin-skinned?
	I don't like lies.
	I don't mind a bad story.
	If you did a bad story on me for 60 minutes, If it were a fair story, I wouldn't be thin-skinned at all.
	You know, some of the media is among the worst people I've ever met.
	And I mean a pretty good percentage is really a terrible group of people.
	They write lies, they write false stories, they know they're false, it makes no difference.
	And frankly, I don't call it thin-skinned, I'm angry.
	But a reporter asked you a couple of hard questions at the first debate, and the whole week after that, it's war on that reporter.
	Well I don't think that was a fair question.
	An impression is created though that you like to dish it out but you can't take a punch.
	Oh I think I can take it.
	I can take it if it's fair.
	Again, if people say things that are false, which happens a lot with me, if people say things that are false...
	I will fight, like, harder than anybody.
	If I do something wrong, and that happens, and they write a fair story that I did something wrong, there's nothing to fight about.
	I can handle that.
	I don't like lies.
	You know, I'm a very honorable guy.
	I don't like lies.
	He's making a mistake here.
	He's making a huge mistake.
	There's a couple of things, and I'm going to hear what you have to say, but first I'm going to say this.
	He doesn't understand the meme wars.
	No.
	He should call him out when the word thin-skinned is used.
	Yeah, or buying his way into the presidency.
	This is another one.
	It's another one.
	They dropped that one.
	Yeah.
	I don't hear that anymore.
	I hear thin-skinned is the one they're working with.
	Thin-skinned.
	Hmm.
	Hmm.
	Because we don't want a president who's thin-skinned.
	Yeah.
	We know people who are thin-skinned and we don't like them.
	And we don't want someone who's thin-skinned who could fly off the handle.
	We don't want them with their hand on the button.
	He's got the nuke button.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	He's got the nuke button.
	Yeah.
	Well, that meme continues, but for the entire Republican community at large.
	I was wondering whether anybody here sort of twigged that he chose Thomas...
	Did you hear that word, twigged?
	What does that mean?
	I had to look it up.
	Twigged is British for...
	It's kind of the British version of grok.
	Did anyone hear grok?
	Grok?
	Yeah.
	Twigged.
	I looked it up here in the Book of Knowledge.
	Play that again, Dan.
	I was wondering whether anybody here sort of twigged that he chose Thomas Merton...
	Twigged.
	Twigged.
	Does anyone here understand why he chose Thomas Merton?
	Is that what his question is?
	If anybody gets it, I guess.
	and here's the answer.
	- Sturgeon friar who had tolerance and interreligious dialogue as his leet motif.
	- Interreligious dialogue, that's a big, You've got to look out.
	Interfaith dialogue, interreligious dialogue.
	You're right.
	The Pope is pushing this.
	But who else is pushing this?
	This is what Fethullah Gulen pushes, the imam on the hill there in Pennsylvania who's running all the charter schools.
	They're all about interfaith dialogue, interfaith this.
	It's a trick.
	It's a trick, I tell you.
	Leitmotif.
	And in that Congress was one of the Republican candidates for presidency.
	There are two.
	The top Republican candidates have decided to make a war on Muslims.
	What?
	5.5 billion members of another faith.
	Did someone stand up and say we should kill all Muslims?
	Did I miss something?
	I mean, please.
	How do you make that leap?
	Well, if you're Christian Anandpour, you can do all kinds of things.
	She uses the word twig, or whatever that was.
	Twig?
	It's like twig, like a stick?
	Yeah, she has another word here.
	Hold on.
	And it must be a little bit weird to have that sort of discordance when, you know, when this Pope is here talking about what makes America great.
	I thought it was a bullcrap word first, but discordance...
	Oh yeah, it's a famous word.
	Yeah, I've never heard it.
	Sounds good, though.
	I'm just going to start using it.
	You can fit it into the conversation.
	Yeah, just, you know, when you look at the media, there's so much discordance between the interfaith dialogue.
	Yeah, perfect!
	Don't you twig that?
	You nailed it!
	Do you twig that, baby?
	Do you twig any of that?
	The twig thing weakens the use of discordance.
	Just drop that.
	I'll land one more on it.
	No, you did.
	Grok.
	Grok.
	I know you don't like that.
	Grok.
	Grok, grok, grok, grok, grok.
	Any more on...
	Well, actually, let me see.
	Do I have something else here?
	No.
	Do you have any more on the election, or can we move to the next topic?
	Well, no.
	I think I've got the election stuff.
	Oh, yeah.
	You might as well play this.
	Let's move to NBC and get this out of the way, because she's out to get him.
	Katie Turr, who was insulted by him, even though it was...
	Looking back on it, I think when he's with people in general, he likes to...
	I think he tries to bring out the best.
	He does it in an awkward way, but I think he tries to bring out the best in people.
	But she found it offensive, so she's out to get him.
	So here's Katie Turr.
	Her and Major Garrett are the two that are just waiting to get this guy, playing into the game, versus Trump, part three.
	After months of flying under the radar and refusing to comment on Trump, Rubio is now attacking, perhaps smelling blood in the water on Trump's foreign policy depth.
	Donald Trump's had a bad week.
	You know, Carly embarrassed him on stage.
	He spoke the other day to a nearly empty room in South Carolina, and he's not reacting well to it.
	Trump still commanding a sizable lead is off to stump in Oklahoma tonight, but not before he put his spin on today.
	I didn't get booze, I got cheers.
	You didn't get booze?
	I got booze for you, but I got cheers.
	Trump did get a standing ovation when he walked into the room, as well as applause and cheers before and after the booing.
	But when I asked some in the crowd if they would vote for him, they laughed and said, no, he's not religious or conservative enough.
	Lester?
	Thank you.
	That's why he brought his Bible out somewhere.
	I saw that.
	So she did a straw poll, asked one person.
	Right.
	And they said, yeah, they like him, but they won't vote for him.
	So this is like propaganda.
	This is a propaganda piece.
	And I think they're sweetening Trump on some of these walk-bys.
	Because when he said, no, I didn't hear boos, I heard applause, I got boos from you.
	I think they sped it up, because if you speed up Trump, and I'm going to prove this on the next show, or you screw with his sound, you can really make him sound like a jerk.
	Huh.
	Okay, good.
	I look forward to that.
	That's very possible.
	So you're saying they actually spin him up a little just to make him sound...
	He'll sound more whiny, for sure.
	Yeah.
	But it's not fair, and I don't like when people lie.
	Exactly!
	Good one.
	I can't wait for that.
	That'd be good.
	That'd be good.
	But you gotta do a side-by-side, man.
	That's hard.
	That's hard.
	Let's just have him sound like a whiny bitch.
	Yeah, whiny bitch.
	That's it.
	Sore loser whiny bitch.
	Thin skinned.
	Crazy hair.
	Nut job.
	Hates immigrants.
	He has no idea.
	If anyone ever needed the Curry Dvorak political consulting group, it's him right now.
	He's doing it all wrong.
	He's feeding the trolls.
	Well, if you lie about me, I'm coming after you.
	Oh, jeez.
	Really?
	That's the stupidest thing you can say, because they're going to do that now.
	But I'm still waiting for him to go after his kids and his wives.
	I don't think they have to, and I think they're trying not to.
	We'll see.
	We'll see.
	Meanwhile, I could not believe my eyes.
	We have a full-blown, full-on reality show going.
	This, of course, could only be CNN. I have to say, CNN, I really love what they do.
	You love CNN. Because it's so obvious that everything they get is all from Project Pundit, the Pentagon.
	They send all their people out.
	The Pentagon has so many public relations people.
	We had the number once.
	It's over 5,000.
	No, it's 10,000.
	It's 10,000.
	It's a crazy number.
	Yeah, and it's like, hey, you're a retired general.
	Here's your book.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, go out and promote it.
	Here's your talking points.
	Here's your agenda.
	Well, so now, of course, we know you've taught us this.
	What is the number one element needed for any reality show?
	Conflict.
	Conflict and drama.
	So now not only do we have two groups competing with each other, the leader of one group is dressed in white, the leader of the other group is dressed in black.
	It could not get any better visually.
	They famously split, are competing for recruits, and now it's personal.
	Tonight, for the first time, we hear Al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri openly attack ISIS chief Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi by name.
	See?
	This is fair.
	It's like the real housewives.
	Well, she...
	You may have stumbled onto something here.
	She said something mean and she didn't apologize when she insulted my husband.
	In an audio message, Zawahiri calls.
	Can you tell I watch?
	Baghdadi and ISIS illegitimate.
	We do not acknowledge the caliphate and the Muslims are not obligated to pledge allegiance to it.
	Wait a minute!
	What?
	And we do not see Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi as one worthy of the caliphate.
	This is pure frustration, analysts say, over Baghdadi and ISIS heavily recruiting jihadists and stealing al-Qaeda's propaganda thunder.
	You can compare it to two drug gangs or two mafia mobs.
	And here they are, one is encroaching on the other's territory.
	A U.S. intelligence official tells CNN this could reflect Zawahiri's bitterness after ISIS rejected his attempts to mend fences.
	I mean, they're giving a backstory.
	This is, for people who maybe are new to the show, this is the format of reality television.
	You start off with a conflict, you show the white guy looking all white, black guy looking all black, you know, just to put them...
	Well, who knows what could happen next?
	And then they give the backstory on why he hates him.
	Oh, she said this, she said that.
	But there's clearly personal animosity at play.
	There's Andy Cohen.
	You know, telling them how much they hate each other.
	He sees Baghdadi as an undisciplined, disobedient upstart.
	Baghdadi, for his part, sees Zawahiri as too meddlesome in other people's affairs.
	The broadside from one terrorist leader toward the other brings a strong warning tonight from one of Congress's top homeland security leaders.
	Ah, well, you can only guess what that means, John.
	I mean, if we have two competing sides, what are they going to try and do?
	They're going to try to blow us up.
	Yes!
	Al Qaeda and ISIS will now ramp up efforts to outdo each other with deadly consequences for America.
	If you see that kind of competition, I worry that they're going to up the ante to try to win, be the winning game in town and attack the United States.
	The competition's already started.
	Competition!
	Taking the page from ISIS's playbook.
	Hey, hey, I want to vote that guy off.
	Do we have a text number yet that we can dial in?
	Where's Ryan Seacrest?
	Where's our number to dial in?
	Al-Qaeda has recently stepped up its calls for lone wolf attacks.
	In its Inspire magazine, pleaded for its followers to assassinate American business leaders like Bill Gates.
	Hey, wait a minute.
	Now we're talking reality television.
	Bill Gates, who else are we going to assassinate?
	Like Bill Gates, the Koch brothers.
	Oh, Koch brothers.
	Yeah, let's kill those guys.
	This is great.
	Warren Buffett.
	That's a good start right there.
	Take those four, kill them.
	Man, it'd be dancing in the streets.
	He also indicated they could work together to attack the West, saying if he was in Iraq...
	Stop, stop, stop, stop for a second.
	If I was Gates, Buffett, or even the Koch brothers, they must know this is bullcrap, and I would be, I would go after these...
	Koch brothers!
	Go after what?
	after these reporters.
	What are you trying to do?
	Why are you mentioning my name?
	Oh, because we have a report.
	No, you don't.
	You have no report.
	This whole thing is bull crap and you keep mentioning my name as a target because you could bring some lunatic out of the woodwork.
	Now, of course, that would jack up ratings.
	But yeah, but that's...
	See, with jack-up ratings, if some lunatic out of the woodwork shot Buffett.
	Why don't they say Trump or something else cool or some other Republicans?
	Maybe because Trump's not giving to, because he's running for president.
	No, I think it's because he's running for president.
	I'm sorry, it's a different show.
	It's a different reality show.
	We can't cross the streams.
	It's on a different network.
	That's so true, so true.
	The Wahiri also indicated they could work together to attack the West, saying if he was in Iraq or Syria, quote, I would cooperate with them in fighting the Crusaders.
	He does not want to take all his cards off the table because if the Islamic State begins to gain more momentum and it becomes even stronger than it is now over Al-Qaeda, and it is, then Zawahiri wants to leave his options open.
	Bah-bah.
	Ah, fabulous.
	I'm very excited about the new one.
	That's a good catch.
	We'll be on the lookout for it.
	You are now officially the watcher of this particular soap opera.
	We need a name for it.
	We need a name for it.
	It's got to have a name.
	It's got to have one of those.
	I know.
	Keeping up with the Caliphate.
	I like that.
	I roll them out.
	Okay, jingle makers out there, we know you're out there.
	Keeping up with the Caliphate.
	Keeping up with the Caliphate is a good jingle.
	Al-Zawahiri versus Al-Baghdadi.
	Keeping up with the Caliphate.
	Last time on Keeping Up with the Caliphate.
	Yeah, I think it'll work.
	I think it will work.
	It's a winner.
	Yeah.
	Good catch.
	Yeah, well, be on the lookout for it.
	You're only going to see more of it.
	And then, of course, you know how the show ends.
	The two of them join size and go after us.
	Yeah.
	They're always going after us.
	But wait, that doesn't become apparent until episode 6.
	Oh no, that's got to be deep.
	It's not at 6, I'm thinking 13.
	As a season cliffhanger, you mean?
	Yeah, as a season cliffhanger.
	Oh man.
	So John Boehner quit.
	Yeah, crybaby.
	Just because you were on the road.
	I caught it.
	I was listening to CNN on the Sirius XM satellite.
	Yeah, you...
	I guess the meme is that, oh, the far right party hated him.
	The crazy far right.
	Far right.
	I don't know.
	These guys didn't like him.
	Let's play this clip because there's an element that I don't think is in the clip, but they talk about it as though it's news.
	When Boehner...
	Boehner cried.
	He cried.
	Do you remember...
	I mean, he's always crying.
	Yeah, Boehner, five or six years ago, we were talking about how Boehner goes into tears at the drop of a hat.
	You know, we have a lot of professors and scientists in the human sciences.
	Wow, I need to close this window.
	The wind is blowing a little hard.
	Um...
	I would like to know, if someone is always on the verge of crying, does that not mean that there's some deep childhood trauma gnawing away at him all the time, that it's just bubbling up to the surface?
	Like, something really, really horrible happened to this guy?
	I don't know.
	Maybe he's just sad all the time.
	Because I'll remember when I got divorced, although, of course, it was joyous to be...
	But I was emotional, and I would catch myself, like, watching the voice.
	First of all, watching the voice.
	Watching the voice.
	Well, there's just, it's designed to be a, hey, something that's a tearjerker is called a tearjerker for a reason.
	But my point is, I know this.
	I'm a professional.
	I don't blather at the voice, but, you know, there was all kinds of emotions going on.
	And I'm watching the voice.
	Oh, no!
	No chairs turn and her dad has cancer.
	What are we going to do?
	No chairs!
	And then the chairs come around and they all say, oh, you could have won!
	You were so close!
	So, I'm thinking the guy has some big, big psychological thing going on underneath the surface.
	Shallow.
	Right underneath the surface.
	Maybe he's deep.
	Maybe it's just he's deep.
	Yeah, doubt it.
	Well, here's a rundown for people that don't know.
	He's deep.
	He's deep.
	John Boehner quits his job.
	When Boehner said those fights were unwinnable, he became the enemy.
	Here's how conservative activists reacted today when Senator Marco Rubio broke the news.
	Just a few minutes ago, Speaker Boehner announced that he will be resigned.
	Since July, a couple dozen conservatives have been pushing for another vote to unseat Boehner.
	And the contempt is mutual.
	You've used words like knuckleheads and some other words we probably can't use on television.
	Had you just had enough?
	I would not describe it as having had enough.
	That's not it at all.
	When you're the Speaker of the House, Your number one responsibility is to the institution.
	And having a vote like this in the institution, I don't think is very healthy.
	What vote is he talking about, John?
	They want to vote him out.
	Oh, okay.
	I get it now.
	Speaker face the same thing.
	Hopefully not.
	The uncertainty worries some Republicans, like New York's Peter King.
	I feel bad for the party that the crazies are taking over.
	It could help explain...
	The crazies are taking over, man.
	The crazies are taking over.
	This guy's the worst.
	Yeah, he's the warmonger crazy fuck of all.
	He's a warmonger.
	He keeps doing things, you know, he's just a horrible person.
	Keeps having hearings, you know, about stupid crap.
	You're taking over.
	It could help explain why Boehner was so emotional when he met the Pope yesterday.
	The Pope puts his arm around me and kind of pulls me to him and says, please pray for me.
	Well, I tried to pray for the Pope, but I did.
	Conservative groups declared victory today, saying Boehner stood in the way of their principles and practiced the art of surrender.
	But the early favorite to replace him, Scott, is his chief lieutenant, House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy.
	Nancy, thanks.
	Thanks.
	Thanks, Nancy.
	Nancy, thanks.
	Now, there's something that was in that report that I was thinking about ever since I clipped that, which is this thing with the Pope who came up to him and says, please pray for me.
	I think the Pope knows he's part of a bigger scheme and he's going to get killed.
	Boehner or the Pope?
	The Pope.
	Oh, wow.
	The Pope goes up to Boehner and he just says, pray for me.
	Do you do that unless you think you're in danger?
	If you're the Pope?
	Well, you know, there's these hot Christian chicks.
	If you do that, you can get a date on with them.
	Well, I don't think unless he's extremely perverted gay.
	I don't think that was going on.
	No.
	Well, I'm just saying.
	But the Pope is, you know, he's...
	This is very...
	I find that particular moment, and he's talked about it because it was an upset Boehner to the point he's crying.
	Well, there was someone else, some other politician.
	Who else has said, I'm afraid the Pope's going to be assassinated?
	Who was that?
	Let me see.
	And they're going to blame Putin or something.
	Susan Sarandon.
	That's who said that.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	What was her thing?
	She's an atheist.
	What does she care about?
	Are you sure she's an atheist?
	Oh, I don't see how she can hold her.
	She says, uh, the Oscar-winning actress, 68, told New York Daily News she's afraid Pope Francis will be murdered when he visits the U.S. I think they're going to assassinate him, she said of the Pope.
	Oh, but she thinks he's going to get murdered and that's not going to happen.
	He's not going to get murdered here.
	No, they always do the goblet or the ring.
	They open the ring with the poison and it goes into the goblet.
	The poison.
	He drinks some of the chalice and chills over.
	The chalice.
	Exactly.
	We know how it works.
	Please.
	Please.
	Let me see.
	You know, why don't we move into the B block here?
	We've got a lot of things to handle.
	Yeah.
	And the German Volkswagen fracas has become more intriguing and more interesting.
	I have three clips about it.
	Good.
	Good.
	We're on the same track.
	You want to do that now?
	Should we do that before the break?
	No, why don't we take a break?
	Because if people don't know, I had been unceremoniously relieved of duties at the TWIT broadcasts.
	Which was carefully explained.
	We're not going to talk about it on the show, but it was very carefully outlined in the newsletter.
	Yeah, which, if you don't subscribe, now is the time to subscribe.
	The link is on every show notes page.
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	I don't know why people don't subscribe, but that's...
	A lot of the newsletters...
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	It's just something people need to be a subscriber to.
	What is all the ruckus?
	We're reading the news.
	I don't get the newsletter.
	Do you ever donate?
	Yeah, I donate, but people unsubscribe from the newsletter routinely.
	Yeah, and then they complain they don't know anything.
	Then they complain they don't get this information.
	Not all the newsletters are gold.
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	With that, I'd like to thank you for your courage to say, in the morning to you, John C., where the C stands for canned Dvorak.
	And in the morning to you, Mr.
	Adam Curry.
	Also in the morning, all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
	Thank you to the artists.
	Man, we had some nice art on episode 759.
	Thank you very much.
	PewDiePie, this PewDiePie cat is coming in with some pretty good stuff.
	This was our Geopolitical Chernobyl episode and had a great piece of art of Denver Airport with that blue horse of death with laser beam eyes zapping the airstream of consciousness into a...
	It's called Blucifer by the locals.
	Blucifer?
	Good.
	Blucifer.
	Yeah.
	Noagendaartgenerator.com We always love seeing, right after the show, we love seeing what the artists have uploaded during the live show.
	This is no small feat what people are pulling off here.
	And it's highly appreciated.
	Alright, so I want to thank a few people.
	We have a number because of my...
	As Eric DeShill says, maybe you should get fired more often.
	We had a bunch of people that came in with pretty good substantial donations to help us here on show 760, starting with Pierce.
	Two Instanites, which is rare to get two in a row.
	It's been a while since that's now.
	Although, by random number theory, it's not that rare.
	Pierce Delphin in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
	$1,000 and $1,000 and $1,000.
	So if you had another one, one hundredth of a penny on there, you'd have an interesting little thing.
	In the morning, I'm a long-time boner.
	I've been listening since around 2010 when I was in high school.
	I now have a full-time job in the cybersecurity industry, and after reading this week's newsletter, I thought it's time I donated.
	The Aussie dollar has recently taken a huge fall against the USD, so this is a particularly expensive time for donations from down under, but I thought you guys deserved it.
	Thank you.
	No jingle is necessary, but if possible, I'd like to hear the Doing the Twit remix at the end of the show.
	I've also noticed that Dvorak has blocked me on Twitter.
	I'll remember blocking him.
	I didn't actually interact directly with people in the IT arena.
	Somebody whose name was...
	I can't even remember his last name.
	I think his first name may be Ben.
	All right.
	Doing the Twit.
	Doing the Twit.
	A dude named Ben.
	You've got karma.
	I'll play the full thing.
	I'll unblock you shortly.
	I don't know how you got blocked.
	Well, you know, you are...
	I'm a blocker.
	You are truly a blocker.
	One of the producers last night said, Hey man, unblock me.
	I don't block anybody, ever.
	I thrive on it.
	He thought you blocked him?
	Yeah, just because I didn't answer.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, you never answer.
	That's for sure.
	KevinB66 in Chicago, Illinois.
	Another $1,000.
	Don't use my full name.
	Just call it Kevin B. The InstaNight donation is in honor of John getting blackballed.
	I would like to be called Sir Blackballs of wit.
	Six Semper Tyrannus.
	Oh, God.
	What does that stand for?
	It means...
	Ready to fight tyranny?
	Something like that.
	Prepared to fight tyranny?
	Maybe.
	Is it Six Semper Fi?
	Is the Marines prepared for tyranny?
	I have no idea.
	I didn't even go into three months of college.
	You can just take and cut it, drop it in Google, and you'll find out quickly.
	Sir Duane Melanson, Duke of the Pacific Northwest in Tigard, Oregon, in the wine-growing regions just north.
	66536.
	Thus always to tyrants.
	What?
	Thus always to tyrants.
	Ah.
	ITM gents from the currently unincarcerated Duke of the Pacific Northwest.
	This amount spells no Leo on the phone.
	66536.
	That's a good one.
	That's a good one.
	First the brain...
	Then he laments.
	He says, first the brain professor, now this...
	Sounds like rule followers have a thin skin.
	Karma for all supporting patrons of your show, please.
	Okay, we'll give you some karma there.
	I'm a rule follower, right?
	What do you do?
	Are you a rule follower?
	You've got karma.
	I might as well get it out of my system now.
	You're getting it out of your system.
	Dr.
	Wookie in Tracy, California, $500, another executive producer.
	Please refer to me by my online name, Dr.
	Wookie.
	Dear John and Adam, greetings from FEMA Region 9 in the dreadful hell that is the Central Valley.
	I've been donating $4 a month since 2013, shortly after John hit me in the mouth while he was appearing on a Twitch show.
	In that time, I completed four years of emergency medicine residency, actually working as a slave and making less than the minimum wage for the 60-plus hours a week I put in.
	And I have finally been working for a real job, making ungodly amounts of money for the last year.
	It's high time I share the wealth and become a producer.
	Of course, at the end of the day, I have the requisite student loans of more than $330,000.
	Keeping me a slave.
	It's ridiculous.
	I resolve to dig deep and deliver a donation to help make up for that big-time twit money he'll be missing out on, which is $500, which is what he paid.
	Also, make me a knight.
	I include my accounting below.
	I'd like to be Sir Dr.
	Wookie of the medical establishment so I can continue to hit my fellow disillusioned colleagues in the mouth.
	Please make me take me out with a Leo Science followed by a douchebag and throw in a karma for the poor souls who are This is Dr.
	Kiki Science, I believe.
	Out there who don't know better than to come to the emergency department with colds and hangnails.
	I'm trying to temper my anger towards them.
	Oh, man.
	All right, give him his karma.
	Yeah, I don't know if I can find that other science thing.
	Oh, well, just give him the Dr.
	Kiki one.
	That's the best one.
	Always have Dr.
	Kiki handy.
	Shut up already!
	Science!
	You've got karma.
	Woo!
	The science is in!
	Sir Skit's right.
	It comes in with another $500 for Phoenix, Arizona.
	The only reason I watched Twit was because you were on it, but I realized I probably haven't watched in four years.
	So I guess it doesn't make any difference.
	Here's $500 for the appearance.
	Plus, just needed to feel good about something.
	Me and my girlfriend just broke up today after three years.
	Spreading the love.
	Hoping some comes my way.
	I love you guys.
	Source skits.
	P.S. I think this brings me to a protectorate donation standing.
	I get with y'all in the accounting when I feel like counting.
	I would like to be source skits of Dixie, protector of the Suwannee River.
	Okie dokie.
	Sounds reasonable.
	Alright.
	There's Gimmud Karma.
	Happy to do that.
	Oops.
	You've got karma.
	Did Eric put all these names in the spreadsheet?
	I want to make sure I get all this right.
	He's got a bunch of them.
	I don't know if they're all there.
	Okay.
	Yeah, we're good.
	We got it.
	We got it.
	All right.
	Michael Gooch in Houston, Texas, right down the street, maybe $500.
	And he'd love to hear bugs, bugs, bugs, too delicious to believe, my friend, and ISIS in America.
	Keep up the great work.
	Michael Gooch.
	Okay, hold on.
	Man, you're going a little too fast, Johnny Boy.
	Here we go.
	I love bugs!
	Bugs, bugs, bugs!
	Tastes like poop.
	Don't eat me, Hillary Clinton!
	Ow!
	Isis, ma'am.
	To the gates of hell!
	ISIS. I feel good!
	You've got karma.
	All right.
	Sorry about that.
	Don't Eat Me Hillary Clinton is also for Caleb Watts, who's asking for that later in the show.
	All right.
	I like the combination.
	Yeah, that's a new one.
	Yeah, Hillary plus the laugh.
	Don't eat me, Hillary Clinton.
	There's a couple of new ones.
	A maniacal laugh.
	Yes.
	This one would cover your ears, children.
	Get out of my vagina!
	Hillary Clinton!
	It's almost too delicious to believe, my friend.
	Oh, jeez, that's terrible.
	I said cover your ears, didn't I? Yes, you did.
	God!
	Put that together.
	Friends?
	Yeah.
	Some of the sick listeners we have.
	Kevin Thomas is next up.
	They're all Islamophobes.
	Yeah, Islamophobes.
	Kevin Thomas in Smyrna, Georgia.
	Georgia, 43210.
	43210.
	Thanks for the hard work.
	He likes some karma and says, Hail Apple!
	Hail Apple!
	You've got karma now.
	That was another executive producer.
	This is a big show for us.
	Chad Gertz in Vancouver, Washington, 350.
	2009.
	What does it say?
	Something above this?
	It's not on here.
	I've been listening since early 2009.
	Can't listen to any news story without questioning what their agenda is.
	I'm currently deployed with the Air National Guard to an undisclosed location with lots of sunshine every day.
	I had to take a $60,000 pay cut from my high-tech job in Oregon, but after reading the last newsletter, I figured I could not wait any longer.
	Can I get an A-Team Obama and some home by Thanksgiving karma?
	Thanks for showing me a new perspective, soon to be Sir Chad of Van Port.
	And we look forward to the ceremony later on.
	There's a need for a rescue mission.
	When the world is threatened, the world needs help, it calls on America.
	And that's the story.
	You've got karma.
	Continuing with what might be, and I have to check this, but this may be the day with the most executive producers ever in the last eight years.
	Wow.
	Zach in Salt Lake City, 33333.
	And he's Zach from Salt Lake City.
	Yeah, met him last night.
	Adam, wonderful to meet you in person during the SLC meetup.
	John, get out of the damned house.
	I'd like...
	I left the house yesterday for five minutes.
	The mailbox flag was up.
	Thank you for your work on this wonderful show.
	During the interview with the investment bank, GS, I threw in some pipeline theory, which I credit helping me land the job.
	Perfect.
	There you go.
	GS being Goldman Sachs?
	Yeah, GS Goldman Sachs.
	Excellent.
	I want to, which means he's got it made.
	I want to wish love to my long-distance girlfriend of four years, Anissa, who hit me in the mouth.
	Thank you again.
	So job karma, I guess, is what he wants?
	Just to top it off?
	You might as well get him a raise.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	Another 333 from the special goodness, our buddy in Carlsbad, California.
	I think it's a guy.
	33333.
	Sorry to hear about the twit bitchiness.
	Go podcasting!
	Go podcasting!
	Where else are you going to hear anyone point out glaring inconsistencies in the media?
	Adam, park the silver tube of shenanigans here in Carlsbad and enjoy the finest climate in the continent.
	Yeah, Tina the Keeper is no longer on board, so there's no...
	What's the point?
	He's sad.
	I am!
	I'm lonely!
	Trevor Baxter, I think I'd give him a...
	He wants some karma, but it doesn't show up on you, of course.
	You've got karma.
	Sir Christopher Dolan in Brookline, Massachusetts.
	That's 33333.
	Do it, Guardians of Reality.
	Thank you for the best podcast in the universe.
	Hashtag Team Dvorak, Sir Christopher Dolan.
	I thought it was hashtag I stand with JCD. That's one of them.
	There's a bunch of them.
	John, are you enjoying this moment?
	Are you enjoying the outpouring of love that you're receiving?
	I am enjoying the favorable commentary.
	That is provided to me on a never-ending basis for the last couple of days.
	I appreciate the support.
	And I just think it's fantastic.
	I mean, it's, you know, short-lived.
	By this time next week, no one will remember this, but I appreciate the moment.
	Yeah, it's great.
	Okay, good.
	Well, you deserve it, because you're a good guy.
	I'm a good guy.
	The kind of guy who goes like, why pick on the old guy?
	There you go.
	It's totally the age...
	This is the advantage of getting older.
	It's the age sympathy vote you're getting here.
	I didn't always agree with him, but don't pick on the old guy.
	Yeah, it's a poor bastard.
	He can't even get out of the house.
	I'm getting out of the house today.
	Where are you going?
	I'm going to Costco.
	Because the Chinese are taking all the toilet paper.
	Buy the toilet paper.
	I've got to get some toilet paper before the Chinas get it all.
	Trevor Baxter in Aurora, Indiana, 33333.
	Greetings from Gitmo Nation Popcorn.
	Please don't forget about the Metaverse Mod Squad story.
	I have long suspended this kind of going on.
	I've tried to dig some stuff up for you, but can't find anything.
	Thank you for your courage.
	Thank you, Eric DeShill.
	Do not read.
	All right, email me.
	It says do not read.
	Email me.
	Email me.
	I'll send you the information.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	Sounds like code.
	Yeah, well, I'm trying to think what the Metaverse Mod Squad story is.
	I remember reading the book.
	I just don't know if I recall the Mod Squad.
	Sir Craig Allen Harms goes into the Associate Executive Producer category.
	26844 from Wichita, Kansas.
	Not a mistake.
	Three Twit donations from a No Agenda Knight.
	Sir Ka.
	I grew up watching Leo as a teenager and finally listened to an episode of No Agenda in early 2012 and I was immediately hooked.
	I have since become a knight of the round table and a true believer in the value for value model.
	Now I only watched Twit when John was on and apparently he'll never watch it again, which is disappointing, but I guess the only thing I will really miss is Leo accidentally showing screenshots of his dick.
	So sad to see someone I looked up to, and then there's nothing else on this thing.
	Anyway, thanks, Craig.
	Sir David, or David, Sir David, is it Sir David?
	I don't know.
	Anyway, David Hutchinson in Conifer, Colorado.
	Should have been at the meetup, 23694.
	Time to show your support for TBPCITU, the best podcast in the universe.
	I can't describe how good your outstanding deconstruction of bogus media stories really is.
	It's simply something that has to be experienced over and over again to truly appreciate the hard work you two guys are doing.
	It's phenomenal, and I thank you both.
	For your courage, keep up the good work.
	73s, 5, N5XL, 73s, KJ5, LNG, Conover, Colorado.
	I think you're KJ6, KF5, SLN. Did I say KJ5? You say, yeah, 73s, and we clearly have an imposter on the frequency.
	Ditto.
	You may read the next part on the air or not as you see fit.
	The donation amount of 23694 is the sum of 27373 donations.
	One for Adam, one for John.
	The show's support for the fellow amateur radio operators doing good work.
	And the addition of an 8948 donation is specifically for John.
	No need to explain further.
	Onward!
	Okay.
	Yep.
	Onward indeed.
	Onward.
	Onward.
	Sir Pablo the squirrel.
	Sir Pablo the Squirrel from Wellington, New Zealand, 23456.
	I donated 23456 and signed up for $52.80 a month as Sir Pablo the Squirrel.
	I have 20 years in dude named Ben security and government has been shh.
	Shouting at the media every time I hear one of these Hillary stories.
	Adam finally said what I was shouting.
	Information is classified by its nature.
	Boom shakalaka.
	There's a whole classification system that describes what information should be classified.
	Labeling just helps everybody make a quick decision.
	It's not the main thing, in other words.
	I also wanted to donate because there was a squirrel on the show art for 754.
	But then I was about, it was about eating squirrels.
	Regards, San Pablo the Squirrel.
	Sir Pablo the Squirrel.
	I'll give him some karma.
	You've got karma.
	Xander Walachia in Budapest.
	Hungry.
	212.29.
	Bless me, Potfathers, for I have douched.
	I've been listening to the show since episode 488, yet this is my first donation.
	I've taken one part 3333 and sandwiched it between two helpings of 89.48 for a total of 212.29.
	If you don't mind, it's been a long time coming, so I can use a de-douching.
	I will do it right now.
	You've been de-douched.
	I discovered the best podcast in the world through John's frequent appearances on The Leo Show.
	I've noticed the appearances on that show have been scarce of late, so I'm not at all surprised by the dust-up.
	The Incident and Tell All newsletter has motivated me, the newsletter being an outstanding product, has motivated me to become a producer and stand behind a product I truly believe in.
	The show has helped me become an independent, critical thinker.
	And for that, I'm extremely grateful to both of you.
	Oh, that's so nice.
	Yes.
	I've been doing my part in hitting friends in the mouth.
	Time for them to step up and provide value for value instead of just consuming.
	The gauntlet has been thrown.
	Please give a douchebag shout out to Team Shark Horse.
	Douchebag!
	Yes.
	Sorry.
	My favorite jingle is the Mac and Cheese Duo.
	I've missed the last few episodes, so if there's a new jingle, please play one of those as well.
	Do you hear Miles ridiculing my sass?
	Blame it!
	The mac and cheese life.
	Mac and cheese by Ayn Rand.
	Oh my god, that is amazing!
	You've got karma.
	Kyle Clanny is our final and, last but not least, associate executive producer from Fort Collins, Colorado.
	$200.
	Adam, this is Kyle, who you met at the Boulder Meetup.
	I apologize for not giving a donation during the meetup in an envelope.
	But I wanted to still contribute while you were on the Love Laundry tour.
	I really enjoyed meeting you and Tina the Keeper.
	I have been a four-week donor, four dollars a week donor since 12-12-12, but I wanted to step up to a bigger donation since I've been listening for over five years.
	May I get some job karma for my mother who was recently laid off?
	Also, may I get a whoopee get out of my vag?
	Hillary, it's almost too delicious to believe.
	And Hot Pockets jingle combo.
	Please take care and travel safe in the airstream of consciousness.
	No, I... See, didn't I... I'll use the one you wanted me to shorten up.
	That's probably better.
	Right?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Get out of my vagina!
	It's almost too delicious to believe, my friend.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	I want to thank these folks and the people that we'll thank later in the show for their great support.
	And we want to remind you this is not the last show we're doing.
	It's not a farewell tour.
	So we have another show coming up on Thursday.
	And there will be no more shows.
	Oh, he wanted a Hot Pockets thing.
	Just as something we remembered.
	This will be the last show for this leg of the tour.
	The next tour, I believe, will be a West Coast, which you have not done yet.
	And we'll do that when it's nice and chilly on the East Coast.
	Yeah, well, head to Palm Springs.
	You sound so overjoyed.
	You sound so happy.
	Yeah.
	Thank you all very much.
	This has been great support.
	Thank you for showing your support for John.
	I hate it when the elderly are pestered.
	It really sucks.
	Hey!
	These are real credits.
	You can use them anywhere credits are accepted.
	And if not, we'll be happy to vouch for you.
	And please remember, we are doing a show on Thursday.
	And I'm looking at you, brand new producer here in Salt Lake City.
	You gotta go out there and probably get the formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Hey, citizens.
	Shut up, please.
	Shut up, please.
	All righty then.
	Let me lead us into this.
	I'm very curious to hear your clips.
	The Volkswagen Discovery, which really, man, you know, I'm getting so many emails from Germany about how disastrous this really is.
	This is going to put Germany into a recession, is the general thinking.
	But there's something much bigger going on.
	This will be my leading clip, and I want you to take it over, John.
	The demand growth for diesel slowed down, and demand growth for gasoline started to increase a little bit globally.
	And what's interesting is that was against the narrative that quite a lot of people expected.
	In 2014, diesel cars made up more than half of passenger fleet sales in Europe.
	But concerns over diesel's clean credentials have grown recently, particularly over its highest sulfur emissions.
	Quite a lot of European car makers were focused on diesel because that has been the fuel of choice.
	European governments have given diesel many benefits in terms of tax treatments.
	So for European car makers, it could be a change if this does feed through into the consumer side and consumers start choosing more gasoline cars as a result of this.
	The tide of opinion had already started to turn on the continent.
	The mayor of Paris announcing plans to ban diesel engines in the French capital by 2020 as part of a plan to fight pollution, with other European countries beginning to rethink incentives such as tax breaks.
	The European Parliament voted Wednesday to tighten pollution rules.
	Carmakers in the bloc could be forced into a strategic U-turn if demand for diesel completely stalls.
	Now, before we get into your clips and your analysis, from what I understand, the whistleblower on this was some Silicon Valley electric car company strategy consultancy.
	We were probably thinking, oh, this would be great.
	We can screw everybody.
	They all go buy electric cars.
	But I think that...
	I like the idea that that was what was going on, but...
	It seems much larger.
	It seems much, much larger.
	Well, there's an element that was completely...
	I don't know, where'd you get that clip?
	That is from Reuters.
	That clip, it's a great clip because it just shows you the manipulation of the media in a big way because that clip left out the most important element of the story.
	Now, we might as well do a whole long clip I have here, for starters.
	I have the three clips.
	But this is a long history, great clip, it says.
	And this is the bomb is dropped in here.
	Now, this is the only people that covered this was BBC Newsweek, or Newsart, whatever that thing is they play once a week.
	And they were adamant about pointing the problem out.
	Why are all these diesel cars being manufactured?
	Why are all these diesel cars?
	And I'll give a little air pollution information at the end about these cars.
	Well, it wasn't diesel fuel.
	In Europe, certainly, it was supposed to be the solution to everything.
	No.
	It was not the solution to everything.
	And you can play the clip right after I say this.
	It was the solution to global warming.
	The change started in the oil refining industry.
	A barrel of oil produces about 19 gallons of petrol.
	But as a byproduct, it also yields about 12 gallons of diesel fuel.
	Once, that diesel fuel was mainly used in oil-fired power stations.
	But as Europe shifted away from them, the market was oversupplied with diesel, lowering its cost as a car fuel.
	Policymakers embraced it.
	Diesel produces fewer CO2 carbon emissions than petrol, and a series of European Commission regulations in the early 90s favoured it.
	Then in the late 90s, taxes on diesel vehicles were cut.
	More diesel was seen as a way to cut back on CO2. On one level, what happened in the European car market in the 90s and 2000s was a huge public policy success.
	Policymakers wanted consumers to buy more diesel cars.
	And by working with the underlying economics, changing taxes and tweaking regulations, they've turbocharged the trend.
	More people now drive diesel cars.
	That's brought down CO2 emissions.
	But it's come at a cost.
	And people now are looking back and asking, did they make the right decision?
	The preference for diesel and a CO2-focused emission standard was the worst policy mistake in the EU of the 1990s and the 2000s, and we're going to live with the consequences for a long time.
	The Japanese and the Americans sensibly listened to the experts who said diesel is dirty because of nitrous oxide and particulate emissions.
	The European Commission listened to the industry, the European industry, which wanted diesel for marketing reasons.
	It's high time the authorities clamp down on diesel lorries belching smoke and smell.
	We've known for a long time that diesel can be dirty.
	But in the 90s, the focus was firmly on CO2, not air quality.
	As diesel's market share has risen, so too is air pollution.
	Okay, good backgrounder.
	I didn't realize that it was the solution to global warming.
	Yeah, another one of these failed policies because people are clueless.
	NOX, is that nitrous oxide?
	Yeah, NOX, and let me explain this a little bit.
	This is the substance that causes air pollution It's photoreactive air pollution.
	It gets in the air.
	It gets into a bowl area like Los Angeles Basin.
	And it creates smog.
	It creates smog.
	Smog.
	Smog, right.
	The sun pounds on it and it turns brown, which is a version of the gas.
	It's not pretty.
	It's gaseous nitric acid.
	It's horrible for you and it's terrible stuff.
	And it's true air pollution.
	Now, we have been told, of course, that the CO2 somehow is air pollution.
	It's not.
	It's carbon pollution.
	Carbon pollution.
	Right.
	Carbon pollution is not air pollution.
	This is the bad stuff.
	And you can smell it on a lot of cars when it goes by.
	I'm very sensitive to it myself.
	Now, this nitric NOx comes out of regular gas pipes too.
	But most gasoline cars have a catalytic converter.
	That's what it's there for.
	The catalytic converter that's between the muffler and the...
	Yeah, it removes the Nox.
	It sucks the Nox out.
	It's got platinum in it.
	Now, why you can't just put a catalytic converter on a diesel car, I believe, and I don't know this and I'm looking into it.
	I think it's a performance issue.
	The pressure of the exhaust is much more exhaustive.
	I think you can deal with that.
	I think the problem is that there's so much soot, the particulate, in diesel exhaust that it clogs the catalytic converter and doesn't allow it to work.
	Okay.
	That's my belief.
	That's just off the top of my head.
	I don't know what the deal is because it would seem to me you could dream up some sort of catalytic converter, retrofit all these diesel engines with that, and that would solve the problem that they're having because they're going to have to remove these engines or something.
	We don't know what's going to go on.
	I'm even seeing on the Airstream forums people freaking out because they bought a Volkswagen to drag their Airstream around.
	Like, oh, now I'm going to get the switch back and I won't be able to drag as much weight.
	The consumers are very, very worried about this.
	Yeah.
	Now, here's the kicker.
	And this is the thing that got me on this story because it's something you said with this about the...
	About this being, why now?
	I'll just retread.
	My initial reaction was, okay, Germany is saying, oh, we'll bring in all the good Syrians.
	We're going to, you know, come on in.
	They have effectively opened up the gates for all of Europe for these migrants to be trudging through on their way to Germany.
	Let's face it, they're Germans.
	You know, the people hate the Germans, so let's screw with the Germans.
	Well, I still don't...
	I can't prove that, but I can prove one thing.
	This scam was known about in 2014.
	Wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	You're telling me that this was already known?
	Play diesel scam known in 2014.
	I feel like I need a drum roll before this.
	...software in some of its cars to cheat US emissions tests.
	Well, apparently this particular dirty little secret was not so secret after all.
	Here's a clip from Newsnight from December last year when our technology editor, David Grossman, reported on car companies enhancing their test results.
	The car is actually able to detect that it's being tested.
	Why?
	Because it's on a standard test cycle.
	And they can use that to put the car into a mode in which the engine is ultra-efficient or to reduce the sort of pollution that's coming out of the exhaust pipe during the test.
	Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
	The car will know it's being tested and therefore will perform in a completely atypical way?
	Yeah.
	Now, this was from BBC? Again, the Newsnight's the show.
	I keep saying Newsnight.
	Newsnight, yeah.
	Newsnight.
	This is from the BBC, Newsnight, December 2014.
	All revealed.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	So why does nobody do anything for, what, six, nine months?
	You know why?
	Because they were all waiting for me to find the clip of the day jingle.
	That's why.
	God, are you kidding me?
	So, of course, if something like that doesn't get any traction, and you could surely see why Volkswagen or Audi, if it's all the same company, would want to, you know, suppress that, but the news media had nothing to gain, and now they have something to gain by effing Germany.
	Like, screw the Germans, just screw them all.
	And I think it's a big F you to Europe, too.
	Do you know how many companies rely on pieces of the...
	Oh, yeah.
	Think of the American automotive industry.
	We had to bail them.
	We had to save them.
	That's how important it was.
	Yeah.
	No, this is massive.
	Massive.
	So let's do the diesel in the EU final.
	This is a bunch of guys at the roundtable on Newsnight just discussing it a little bit more and emphasizing things a little bit more so we can walk away with something to think about.
	You have drawn a lot of attention to how bad air is in some cities.
	Did Europe make a mistake in pursuing diesel?
	Well, it's easy to say as we did with hindsight.
	At the time, primacy of policy was climate change.
	It was the big unsolved problem.
	The reason we went for diesel was because we thought the regulations would work.
	The regulations were going to become increasingly stringent.
	We thought they would work and reduce emissions.
	With hindsight, it's turned out that that was a mistake, that they didn't.
	And is it correct to say that as a result of that mistake, thousands of people have died?
	In broad terms, we can say yes.
	I wouldn't like to put a figure on it, but it's probably fairly large.
	And it's a statistical association.
	You know, as we say, you don't see died of air pollution on the death certificate, but there's a strong evidence case for the association between these pollutants and premature death.
	We're all going to die!
	Ah, the Germans have killed people!
	Surprise!
	Of course, with gas!
	Surprise, with gas!
	With gas!
	Good work!
	Oh, man.
	Oh, no.
	Well, just to give you, I have two short clips here just to give you the scale.
	But I just want to say you will note in the American media will never bring this climate change thing up.
	Yeah, why not?
	Because there would have to be all in on climate change.
	This is the scam of it all.
	Oh God, this is like a negative thing that happened when we tried to do something about climate change.
	Just shut up about it.
	For Volkswagen's US boss, the timing couldn't have been worse.
	A growing scandal coinciding with a launch that's been scheduled for months.
	What was the launch?
	Whatever it was, it didn't launch.
	So the timing is, you know, diesel car.
	Diesel in the U.S.? I have no idea.
	But this is also industrial espionage.
	You know, it brings up all kinds of thoughts.
	Like, hey, they were about to announce something big.
	Oh, now let's screw them with something that was known for over a year.
	Despite the confession, authorities are not easing up.
	After a US probe found VW was cheating emissions tests on its diesel vehicles like...
	Yeah, it wasn't a probe.
	It was whistleblowers from Silicon Valley who were all in on battery cars.
	...the Jetta.
	Investigations have now begun in South Korea and Germany.
	There are even calls for an EU-wide inquiry.
	EGC's Mike Ingram says it won't just hurt VW, but Europe too.
	One of the reasons why Germany continues to do well as an exporter is that the consumers of their products tend to be quite price-incentive.
	And implicit in that is that they're buying quality.
	And again, the debacle of VW puts a question mark against that.
	As well as criminal charges in the US, Volkswagen could face an $18 billion fine.
	ICF Kurzmarkt trader Arthur Brunner.
	There is considerable doubt about this in the market because the events at Volkswagen will have to have consequences.
	We expect some changes in the leadership, and so the uncertainty is fairly big.
	VW shares slid to a three-year low in early trading, while Monday's morning wiped $15 billion from its market valuation.
	Then we already have things happening around the EU.
	Switzerland says it is suspending sales of Volkswagen diesel vehicles that could contain devices capable of cheating emissions tests in the latest fallout from the VW emissions fraud scandal.
	This after the carmaker said 11 million vehicles worldwide were fitted with software similar to the kind that allowed the company to rig U.S. emissions tests.
	Can you imagine, John, that...
	So here's...
	The policy is...
	Give us all your weary, your meek, your people on the boats.
	Give us all the Syrians.
	We're going to put them in the factories.
	We're going to give them a living wage.
	They're all going to be okay.
	This is fabulous.
	Come to Germany.
	And then, oh, I'm sorry, we have to downsize our biggest industry because no one wants to buy our cars anymore.
	This is the death knell for the EU. This is like one big...
	Nothing to laugh about.
	Well, it's kind of humorous.
	But you've blown my mind to such a degree that this was on the BBC a year ago.
	This was known.
	And yet now, now the timing is...
	You've got to help me.
	What happened?
	I don't know.
	I have no idea.
	Thank you for your help.
	I was thinking of your original thesis.
	It was, now's the time to pull the plug.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but who?
	Somebody saw that earlier report and just...
	I don't know.
	Whoever it is is an evil person because they're going to ruin everything for everyone.
	But you know, the thing I got is there was already reports about BMW having similar issues.
	I think all these diesels are like...
	No, BMW is also on the block.
	Now, I have the report in the show notes.
	It looks like BMW employed similar tactics.
	You know, I want these Germans, man.
	It's the only way you can pass the test.
	I think we need to bring the climate change thing back in because then we could blame climate change on Germany.
	Yeah, let's do that.
	I mean, if anybody has driven it, when I was in the, this is a couple years ago, but I was in Sweden at the Volvo plant and they have these little diesel cars.
	They have a whole bunch of them.
	I wanted to get one, but they won't let them in the country because I don't think they have cheated enough.
	But they have this little test track.
	You can get into these different cars.
	They had a whole line of them, so you get to drive all of them.
	And so you get in these little diesels.
	These things go like bad out of hells.
	It was astonishing to me how much poop they had.
	It was no different than the gas car.
	The turbo diesels are phenomenal.
	Yeah, they go really fast.
	And so you're driving around like a maniac.
	And then you find, well, they're not allowed in the United States.
	You can't do this.
	You can't do that.
	Because I guess Volvo didn't have this software.
	That everyone else was using.
	Yeah, this is...
	Well...
	I think things will become apparent.
	All I know is I keep watching the footage of all those gray-haired German dudes who will be sitting at some announcement with the guys doing this big mea culpa.
	They just all look so worried, man.
	They look like they're going to shit themselves.
	Very worried.
	This is not like something that's going to blow over.
	It's not.
	And the implications for industry in Germany in general...
	It's huge.
	11 million cars.
	And it could be more.
	Probably more.
	If you remember, anything we ever discuss on this show, the early estimate numbers, on every issue, whatever it is, whether it's the OPM break-in, where they say, oh, it's only a million people, now it's four, now it's eight, now it's all these fingerprints.
	Five million fingerprints, all stored on the same server.
	It's a brilliant security move.
	And so all that, it's always bigger.
	So the 11 million is the first shot at the number.
	It's going to be 20.
	Yeah, I think you're right.
	And Audi, my favorite car.
	By the way, I will say this as an ex-air pollution guy.
	Knox is the worst.
	It is not allowed.
	No, Knox is bad mojo.
	I think if you see anyone driving in a Volkswagen or specifically an Audi, it's certainly the A8. You should see the egg in that car.
	Egg that car.
	Egg that car.
	Because they're killing you with knocks.
	Dox the knocks!
	Anyway, so there we have it.
	That'll be a continuing story probably for the rest of the year.
	Yeah, it's fantastic.
	And you watch.
	I mean, the economists are...
	Every single story I found had quotes from people on trading floors, you know, financial people.
	Like, oh, no one knows what to do.
	Volkswagen's not saying how they're going to address the problem.
	There's a lot of...
	Markets don't like uncertainty.
	But this will close down business.
	And who's buying a lot of these cars?
	The Russians.
	Wait until Mercedes has diesel still, right?
	Yeah.
	Mercedes diesel, yeah.
	All taxi cabs are Mercedes diesel at this point, I think, in Europe.
	Well, the diesel and kind of the environmentally conscious might have diesels here, even though they generally, in California, drive Priuses.
	Well, California has all kinds of issues with diesel.
	They were foreboding to be sold at a certain point.
	Yeah, well, I'm sure they're doubled up on that.
	Well, while we're on the climate change, John, I know you're a big fan of Moby.
	I know you're all into his music and trance, and you like a lot of that stuff.
	And I'm not kidding, right?
	Not Moby so much.
	You don't like Moby?
	It's okay.
	Well, you're going to hate him after you hear this.
	And this is a script he's reading, which only becomes apparent at the end, but while you're listening to him, and actually you can find the clip in the show notes, it is a script.
	And he has the solution for global warming, which, of course, is the most important problem of our time.
	From my perspective, every other issue that we care about, whether it's education, human rights, environmentalism, they all pale in comparison to climate change.
	Because if the world's climate, if the climate heats up and sea levels rise, every other issue we care about falls by the wayside.
	And from my perspective, one of the easiest ways to address climate change is animal agriculture.
	Because animal agriculture, according to the United Nations, is responsible for at least 25% of climate emissions.
	So, if magically everyone on the planet stopped using animals for food, climate change would be decreased by 25% immediately.
	To put it in perspective, animal agriculture is responsible for more climate gases than every car, bus, boat, truck, airplane, motorcycle combined.
	So, I choose to be a vegan.
	I'm not saying you necessarily choose that, but we need to understand that animal agriculture would be one of the easiest possible ways of dealing with climate change.
	So, I'm Moby here in Washington, D.C. Thank you for listening.
	Why don't you just go all the way and let's get it over with?
	Let's kill all animals.
	I think he's kind of alluding to that.
	Kill all animals.
	Kill all animals.
	And I think we should start with kittens.
	Kill all kittens.
	Moby said so.
	Bastards.
	Kill all kittens.
	By the way, he did talk about rising sea levels.
	Let me just take a look.
	Yeah, how are the mudflats doing?
	They're still there.
	Oh, very good.
	There's a freeway, by the way, running alongside the mudflats.
	I believe it to be at sea level zero.
	And I don't see any water wafting across it.
	I want to stick in the EU for a moment because, of course, the migrant crisis continues.
	And I will remind everybody they're called migrants because call them refugees and then you have a whole different status.
	UN agreements, the Geneva Convention, people have the right to seek asylum.
	But if you keep calling them migrants, then, you know, you can just kick them out or not let them come in or, you know, don't take an airplane, take a boat.
	But the EU now has a plan.
	Oh, thank goodness.
	EU leaders are pledging $1.1 billion for the United Nations and other aid agencies to help Syrians in the Middle East.
	They're also increasing funds to countries like Lebanon, Jordan and Turkey to help ease the factors driving Syrian refugees to risk their lives trying to reach Europe.
	European Council President Donald Tusk says the measures include much closer cooperation and tighter controls.
	Now listen carefully to what Tusk says.
	It is clear that the greatest tide of refugees and migrants is yet to come.
	Therefore, we need to correct the policy of open doors and windows.
	This is very important, what he's saying.
	We need to correct the policy, because the big wave is still yet to come.
	This is just like the kiddie pool.
	Wait until we get into the deep end of migration.
	We need to close the doors and close the open windows.
	Phew, sounds damn friendly to me.
	German Chancellor Angela Merkel, whose government's been accused by some EU states of fueling the migrant influx, also appeared content with the measures.
	The German government supports the European Commission's proposals.
	This means this is a first step, but we are still far from where we need to be.
	French President Francois Hollande wants other countries beyond the EU to take on a greater role.
	If Europe is a collective founded on values and principles, there are other countries, the United States and Canada, which also have to do their bit.
	So there it is.
	Screw Germany.
	Yeah, they brought it on.
	Germany has to suffer.
	Well, that's going to happen for sure.
	They seem to have suffering in their future.
	Over at the United Nations, this is, you know, the United Nations has UN Web TV, something like that, and they have an RSS feed, so I've been, I subscribe to it.
	It's a lot of crap-ass video to sit through.
	But they've been doing this thing lately where they're bringing in celebrities.
	You have Michael Douglas.
	This is one after another.
	And I think their whole plan of attack is bring in as many celebrities as we can until someone strikes a chord and then that goes viral, which clearly is not happening.
	But here's an example.
	This is Shakira, who will endorse anything for money, a teeth whitener.
	If you walk into a Walgreens, you'll see Shakira.
	She will promote anything for money.
	And honestly, if I were the U.N., I'd invite her over, too.
	She's hot!
	It is, without a doubt, one of the greatest humanitarian crises of our time.
	Now, of course, she's reading, as a good celebrity spokeshole will do.
	Wait, you're not going to give us a clue as to what she's talking about?
	She's talking about migrants, the refugee crisis.
	Oh, migrants.
	I'll start over.
	Yes, of course, this is a block.
	This is a package, a package of clips.
	It is, without a doubt...
	One of the greatest humanitarian crises of our time.
	And the image of that little boy washed up on the shore is a tragic one and one that we shouldn't ignore and shouldn't forget.
	And it should humanize the plight of the refugees.
	This is a script that has been written by someone who's frustrated that the little boy thing, yeah, it's a short-lived life.
	It fizzled out kind of quick.
	I mean, I didn't really do anything.
	Because we all know, ultimately, who's responsible for this, right?
	Putin.
	Well, Putin, Assad.
	I mean, Assad is the guy who has to go.
	So Assad's the reason that little boy was dead.
	Yes, and listen to her final words in this script.
	Because children should not pay the price of war.
	And because all of us have a responsibility today and we cannot escape it.
	Not the leaders of the world and not us as a civil society.
	We need to come together and we need to demand a just exit to this humanitarian crisis.
	A just exit to this humanitarian crisis.
	Hello?
	That means one thing and one thing only.
	Assad.
	A just exit for Assad.
	This is so obvious.
	They're giving these stupid celebrities these scripts.
	Listen to this little kicker at the end here.
	When she's done, and then she's posing for the cameras and the photographers are telling her how to turn and how to twist.
	Yeah, front.
	Okay, good.
	Yeah, great.
	Thank you.
	Good work.
	Here's your check.
	Now, luckily, Assad was interviewed by...
	Was this a German outfit?
	No.
	No, I can't remember who this was.
	And Assad explains exactly what is going on in 20 seconds.
	Regardless of the accusation that those refugees are flooding the Syrian government, what they call it, regime, of course, actually, it's like the West now is crying on the refugees with one eye and aiming at them with the machine gun with the second one.
	Because, actually, those refugees left Syria because of the terrorism.
	So he says, hypocrites, you're crying about the refugees with one eye, but you're aiming at them with a machine gun with the other because the people are fleeing the terrorists, i.e.
	the moderates, that the United States and Britain and France and the coalition have funded, along with Saudi Arabia.
	Bingo, boom, shakalaka.
	Well, things could change quickly if the Russians, which are loading up in there, just decide to police state the whole area and say, no, no, no, no, no more.
	I think Putin has an interesting tactic, and he's been very clear.
	I mean, audio is not usable, but I did put the clip in the show notes.
	You can see him with translated subtitles saying, you know, yeah, we've always supplied weapons to Syria.
	We're going to continue to do that.
	And we are going to go in and we're going to kick the terrorist's ass.
	We're going to get ISIS. And Putin is calling on an international coalition, which President Obama does not like at all, because he's supposed to be leading the coalition.
	And Putin's saying, hey, you know what?
	We're going to get rid of ISIS. We are going to do it.
	We're stepping in.
	We're going to go kick ISIS's ass.
	And eventually, that message is going to come through.
	Eventually, the media will not be able to get around it and will say, okay, here's what...
	But the media is ignoring this.
	Yeah, but this is exactly what he's doing.
	No, and Putin can do it.
	And there's precedent.
	They are allies.
	So what is he supposed to do?
	Just stand by idly?
	Exactly.
	So that we have no real excuse.
	Now, I was watching a lot of...
	Chinese TV. And it was an interesting crawler.
	They had a bunch of interesting stuff underneath their news coverage.
	One of the things is that Ukraine is asking to become a member of NATO. Surprise.
	Have you heard that anywhere?
	Not recently, no.
	Well, it's apparently happening as we speak.
	Which has got to go all the Russians.
	Uh...
	So I was following the...
	Xi came over here and had a big fancy dinner with Obama.
	And there was a bunch of meetings in Seattle we talked about in the other show.
	And they had a closed door meeting even.
	They had a closed door meeting.
	You know what they were discussing there?
	How Obama and Xi and the Pope are going to announce the existence of Planet X. You wait.
	Well, you go off in that direction.
	I did catch something interesting.
	First of all, we can preface it by playing the clip, even though it's a useless clip now that I think about it.
	But it's kind of interesting.
	This is tech deals with China that was on the Chinese television.
	And internet companies.
	And there were some alliances announced.
	Microsoft said it would make Baidu the default search engine in its new Windows 10 operating system in China, replacing its Bing service.
	Cisco, the networking equipment producer, announced a joint venture with Chinese server producer in Spur.
	While the business networking site LinkedIn and ride-hailing app Didi Kuaidi said they would cooperate in artificial intelligence to create new market opportunities.
	Do you want to get into some tech news?
	Yeah, let's do some little tech news.
	Well, before, yeah, let's do a little tech news.
	The only good phone's a landline, and the phone should be made out of Bakelite.
	That's right, everybody, it's time once again for Tech News on the No Agenda Show, the only tech news that does not suck up like tech hornies.
	Hail Apple!
	Hail Apple.
	Hail Apple.
	Well, while we're on Hail Apple, I don't hear a lot of the tech horny talking much about this seemingly simple hack that took place in China, where malware was baked into a copy of Xcode, or I guess the malware is called Xcode Ghost, and it has infected...
	So far today, we know 39 of the iOS apps, which are supposed to be entirely safe, and Apple takes care of you, and they check everything.
	Because Apple checks.
	Because Apple checks everything.
	And it includes WeChat, which, of course, a lot of people in the U.S. use as well as the Chinas.
	But the one that tickled me is Perfect365.
	That's the selfie app that allows you to make yourself look beautiful with makeup and make your eyes bigger and change your entire face.
	That thing must be loaded on millions of phones.
	Yes, millions.
	And what this malware does is it takes your information, all of it, And shoots it off to some control and command server, and I guess they're going to use it for...
	Wow, nice tractor, dude.
	I guess they're going to use it at some later date.
	But this is a huge...
	What do you call it?
	Slap in the face.
	Breach.
	Well, yes, breach.
	But slap in the face for Apple.
	Not a lot of coverage.
	No one's talking about it.
	But you know what's interesting?
	This is exactly the same way the CIA deployed malware in the past by putting it into the development tools.
	So knowing that mainly apps that are used by Chinese users were affected by this, I'm thinking that maybe this was a CIA op on Apple to get into the Chinese phones.
	Well...
	You have to remember that the Apple refused to cooperate.
	No, from now on we call it the Apple.
	The Apple has refused to cooperate with the government.
	Hail the Apple!
	And this has become a...
	Yes.
	Apple has always said, we're not going to let you in.
	We're not going to let you in.
	No back doors.
	Go away.
	We're encrypting everything.
	And now they're in.
	And let me see.
	Let me look back in history.
	I think they did an X. It was also with Xcode.
	I think the CIA did this Xcode trick already in 2012.
	Here it is.
	Although Xcode Ghost is the first malware to spread this way in the wild, the techniques it uses were previously developed and demonstrated by Central Intelligence Agency researchers at the CIA's annual top-secret Jamboree conference in 2012.
	Were they handing out merit badges to the CIA? Woo!
	Jamboree, everybody!
	Using documents from NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden, the Jeremy Scahill.
	Describe the CIA's X-Code project in a story published in March.
	So this is, you know, just Occam's razor.
	I think the CIA did this.
	Well, they can do it.
	And it's interesting that this happens at this moment in time.
	We had cybersecurity hearings on the Hill.
	Pretty much Admiral Mike Rogers saying, Oh, boo!
	We need more money!
	I have to rip the whole thing apart!
	I don't know how to do it!
	But what is bad is that no one wants to work at NSA anymore because they've changed the policy and now they're spying on every single employee.
	That often can provoke a strong reaction from the workforce who says, so let me understand this, because of the actions of one individual, you are now monitoring me, you're now watching my behavior in a way that you didn't necessarily do before.
	Hey, do I want to work in a place like that?
	Uh, no.
	I have a little insight on this.
	Okay.
	I had a recent meeting with our economic hitman.
	Ah, you spoke with him.
	Good.
	Who was very connected in the intelligence community, it appears.
	I didn't know how much connected until we had this chat.
	So you actually left the house?
	I do leave the house once in a while when it's something important.
	Okay, gotcha.
	Like when the flag's up on the box.
	Now, do you have to be holding a copy of the New York Times?
	Oh, to go to Berkeley?
	To meet him?
	Do you have to have a carnation in your buttonhole?
	And a flower.
	If you sit on a bench back to back and talk to each other, how does that work?
	Set the stage.
	Set the stage.
	So he says his son and daughter, I guess especially his son, has been solicited.
	He's in college and he's been solicited by the agency.
	And there's a couple of things.
	First of all, his Russian girlfriend that has been keeping him from listening to the show and helping us, not really a Russian, but she speaks perfect Russian and she has red hair.
	Is she hot?
	How should I know?
	You can't send pictures around.
	Maybe just fold one into the newspaper.
	Did he give you a manila envelope with stuff in it?
	No, I didn't get the manila envelope.
	He finally broke up because she was spending too much time.
	She was hurting the show.
	Well, he told me a few other little tidbits, which is why I wanted to bring us in since you brought up NSA. First of all, his son decided that he wants to learn Arabic.
	I think that's a good idea.
	It's an impossible job thing.
	She was still with him, and she just scolded him, apparently, not to learn Arabic ever.
	Why?
	If you're going to work in intelligence.
	Why?
	I'm glad you asked.
	Yes.
	Because you learn Arabic, you are immediately pigeonholed, and you get these horrible assignments in the Middle East living in mud huts.
	Sand.
	And you can't get out of it.
	Great.
	So don't learn Arabic.
	This is for people, no agenda listeners who want to join an intelligence agency.
	You should learn Chinese.
	Chinese Mandarin, that's much easier.
	Yeah, Chinese would be great.
	Well, Admiral Rogers was asked about Hillary Clinton's email server, and I thought that was interesting because the questions were good, and I believe it all fits in tech news because we do have our dude's name, Ben, and they understand how these things work.
	What would be your response if the current Secretary of State or another Cabinet member came to you and said, Admiral Rogers, I'd like to set up a private non-governmental server and use that to conduct official business?
	I would say, is it going to run Linux?
	Or are you going to run Exchange Server?
	You really want to drag me?
	Yes.
	By the way, have you seen this Rogers guy?
	He looks like he's dead.
	He looks like a ghost.
	The guy does not look healthy.
	Very, very.
	And he's also the commander of the U.S. Cyber Command and director of NSA. I'd simply like your professional opinion.
	My comment would be you need to ensure you're complying with the applicable regulations and structures for your department.
	I'll be the first to admit I'm not smart about what the rules and regulations are for every element across the federal government.
	Are the communications of the senior-most advisors to the President of the United States, even those that may be unclassified, a top priority for foreign intelligence services, in your opinion?
	Yes.
	If an NSA employee came to you and said, hey boss, we have reason to believe that Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov or Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif is conducting official business on a private server, how would you respond?
	From a foreign intelligence perspective, that represents opportunity.
	Uh-huh.
	Yeah, we know that.
	Are you aware of any NSA? Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Are you done?
	No, I'm not done.
	No, that was a kicker.
	I'm going to roll back a second.
	Hold on.
	Are you aware of any NSA officials who emailed Secretary Clinton at her private account?
	No, I have no knowledge.
	I apologize.
	Are you aware of any NSA officials who were aware that Secretary Clinton had a private email account and server?
	Boy, now you're talking about something before my time.
	Senator, I apologize.
	I just don't know the answer.
	Could I ask you to check your records and respond back to us in writing, please?
	Wow.
	It's a good point, this.
	Who's this guy?
	Who's this senator?
	He's really going after it.
	Yeah, I'll look it up for you.
	It wasn't Russ, was it Russ?
	We're sick about Hillary getting in because she's going to kick ass and take names later.
	And most importantly, you've got to think, of all the internet traffic that is being spoofed and sniffed and looked at, of course NSA has this.
	This has always been the joke.
	Oh, just ask NSA. They've got a backup.
	Now someone finally asked NSA. Are you aware of any emails coming from this private server?
	Uh, before my time.
	Yeah, but could you please...
	Could you please check that?
	I think he actually says that's a great question for the record.
	So, there will be a record, and of course they're going to find that.
	I think, what was it recently, that there was some unfound email chain with, oh God, with General Petraeus about Benghazi.
	Could it get any better for this woman?
	Oh yeah, this is going to be great.
	I don't know how they're going to manage this.
	I love it.
	I love it.
	Got some interesting news about Facebook.
	They'll be using RSS for their instant articles.
	This could potentially be good news.
	This would be a break in the walled garden.
	Not that it'll make Facebook any more pleasant to visit, but still.
	What?
	Facebook will be using RSS technology for its instant articles, meaning you'll be able to publish from Facebook and ingest into Facebook.
	That's interesting.
	Yeah, that's breaking the walled garden.
	I think it's a bold move, honestly.
	Well, the thumbs down thing was the big screw-up.
	Yeah, did that even get deployed?
	How would you know?
	Why am I asking you?
	I don't care.
	Why am I asking you?
	Oh, this fits in with the face page in the tech news.
	So this is how sad it is.
	We're driving, we're doing this six hours to Salt Lake City.
	And we get the connectivity pretty much the minute we're out of the park, we get connectivity.
	And then the first thing that comes through is, oh, hold on a second, there's a message from John.
	Yeah, newsletter.
	Please read.
	And you always send me the draft so I can look for style and spelling and stuff like that.
	Or you can get something you want to add.
	Yeah, or if I want to add something.
	So, I'm driving.
	And this is an 80 mile an hour highway.
	This is nice.
	I'm driving.
	So, Tina the Keeper is like, well, we'll do this together.
	So, of course, she really did all the edits.
	And then apparently you had a whole follow-up email conversation with her.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, okay.
	Just so you know.
	So I know what?
	Just so you know, I know what you're doing.
	What?
	You're trolling.
	Trolling for what?
	Crazy ass pictures you can use for the newsletter.
	Yes, I did.
	I asked her for some pictures.
	I got one.
	It's a beauty.
	Okay, so that will be in a future newsletter.
	I recommend you subscribe to the newsletter.
	And then she's like...
	And I also wanted to do a little back and forth with her because you said that she thinks I'm an asshole.
	I never...
	Oh, you're so...
	Oh, my God.
	That is so...
	I said exactly the opposite.
	You're wrong.
	I jumped to conclusions.
	You said I was short with her.
	No.
	I was short with her.
	No.
	Oh, yeah.
	That was a while back.
	Yeah.
	No.
	Because I said, okay.
	She's a big fan.
	She's a big JCD fan.
	She said something.
	I said, okay.
	And that was it.
	She's very short with me.
	She's a big...
	No, she didn't say that.
	I said that.
	No, you said it.
	You're just trying to cause trouble.
	I'm trying.
	But she's a big fan.
	She's a big fan of the newsletters.
	This is her job.
	She does this kind of stuff.
	Actually, this last newsletter was so long, I'm glad she helped.
	But I would like to discuss a couple of points I made in that newsletter.
	Well, can I get to my point?
	She could probably learn something about it.
	All right, in a moment.
	We'll do that in the D-block.
	No, we're not doing it on the show.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, send her an email.
	Send her an email.
	She loves you.
	And so, of course, now she's on her laptop.
	She's like, oh boy, I forgot to wish my daughter a happy Daughter's Day.
	And I say to him, yeah, exactly.
	And I say, what is that bullcrap all about?
	And so someone started on Facebook, it's International Daughter's Day.
	There is an International Daughter's Day, which falls on August 11th.
	But this just shows you how, and it's a part of moral self-licensing.
	Oh, I have to say something nice to my daughter on the face page, you know, then I'll be good for another year.
	Huh?
	That's not happening on this show.
	No, but I just want to say that it's so easy to start something up on the face page.
	Yeah.
	Everyone's all like, oh, I love my daughter, but my daughter, she's the best thing that ever happened to me while I was like, asshole kids.
	Well, you know what parents really think.
	Yeah.
	So we should think about starting something up.
	Yeah, National No Agenda Day.
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, it has to be something that'll get legs.
	Well, that could get legs.
	Send photos.
	You got anything else?
	You got anything else?
	Uh, no.
	The only good phone's a landline, and the phone should be made out of Bakelite.
	That's right, everybody.
	That's all the tech news you need.
	It's all you need.
	I got a little tech news, but I'll just as an afterthought.
	Okay, hail the Apple.
	Now, uh, C-SPAN... Does this once in a while.
	And I'm very suspicious of C-SPAN. I think they do certain things just for the, like, and I'm not going to say it's for the intelligence community or maybe some spies or industrial guys or whatever.
	But once in a while, and I think maybe it's just lazy.
	I'm not sure what they're up to.
	But they put on a camera on the walkway to the dinner, to the state dinner with the Chinese guy.
	Oh, I didn't see that.
	Yeah.
	The Chinese guy.
	She.
	They show him coming in the back.
	He came in the back.
	And then they have these people coming in.
	They're announcing them.
	A bunch of people they don't announce.
	But this was a very interesting group.
	It's getting us to the point.
	This was mostly tech people.
	Mm-hmm.
	It had Nadella and his wife.
	John Lasseter came rolling through with his wife.
	Gates was there.
	I didn't see Gates.
	I saw Gates.
	I saw Gates.
	Gates was not at the lead table.
	The interesting thing about the lead table, the main table, where Obama sat in the middle facing the audience with the podium behind him.
	The Chinese, Xi's wife was on his left.
	And Xi, he never looked at her.
	I thought it was snubbing her.
	His wife was on the other side, then she, or no, she was next to him, I guess, and then his wife, then Michelle, and then you couldn't recognize anybody except I could see that directly across from she was Tim Cook.
	Tom Collins.
	He came in as like an honored guest, and who do you think he'd bring for a date?
	Hold on a second.
	This is a good...
	I like this a lot.
	Now, we know that Tom Collins is gay, but did he bring a man?
	You have to give me that.
	You're going to ask me questions.
	Okay, I'll answer one.
	Yeah, did he bring a man?
	One question.
	Is that going to be the question?
	That's the question.
	You know.
	You know.
	He brought a woman.
	He brought a woman.
	Wow, this is a...
	I'll give you a second question.
	Okay.
	Okay is not the question.
	Oh, I get to ask.
	Was the...
	So it was a woman, I presume.
	Wait a minute.
	Was it Caitlyn Jenner?
	Oh, that would have been fantastic.
	I guess I'm wrong.
	That's too bad.
	And by the way, that's not a question.
	That is a guess at the answer.
	How many guesses do I get?
	I'll give you two more.
	Okay.
	Tank Girl, Miriam Joir.
	Oh, come on.
	At least try to get a real question.
	Well, Megan Smith?
	Oh, that would have been a good idea.
	Because you know they'd never go home and have sex.
	I didn't see Megan Smith there.
	No.
	Ex-EPA head Lisa Jackson.
	Oh, no.
	Of course.
	She's the spokeshole for the Apple.
	Oh, I forgot about that.
	Oh, wow.
	Wow.
	Damn.
	Oh, she just lorded over everybody.
	She's coming in there.
	Oh, I bet she was walking around like her shit don't stink.
	Did Jeffrey Katzenberg come in with a man or a woman?
	With a man.
	Of course.
	Yeah, his husband.
	Yeah, I guess.
	Let's see, who else was there that was of interest?
	A couple of people just blew in.
	Some people stopped and posed and did this and that.
	It was actually quite interesting.
	Was Mark Cuban there?
	I didn't see Mark Cuban.
	At least he wasn't during the part they allowed us to see.
	Then they went in and they listened to Obama speak and he couldn't recognize anybody.
	It was a dim room, so it was useless for intelligence at that point.
	I do have one last story for the tech news, although we kind of close out the segment.
	It's no matter...
	How well we deconstructed it, no matter how many people turn up and say, and credible technology people say, this is bullcrap.
	No matter how many times we point out the relationship between the kid's sister and the Council on American-Islamic Relations and the timing of everything and the fact that there was only a 10% Caucasian population amongst the entire school, The mainstream media has just gone all goo-goo-ga-ga for Ahmed, for Clockboy.
	You think that one of the networks, I've been following this, trying to find a network that would have the guts to do a mea culpa.
	No, not going to happen.
	But they're not going nuts.
	They just dropped the story, the 3x3s.
	Oh, okay, but I'm seeing nothing, but it's continuing on cable news.
	No, the 3x3s have all dropped it.
	Okay, well, then it's just a little blip at the end here, but Clock Boy goes to Google.
	14-year-old Ahmed Mohammed is a star at the Google Science Fair in California.
	Students and adults are all eager to have their pictures taken with him.
	It's quite a change from a week ago when the 14-year-old was arrested and then suspended for bringing a homemade clock to school.
	But if officials in Irving, Texas don't want him, others do.
	I'm a teacher, and that is the kind of kid you want in your class, right?
	That kid that is inspired, that wants to go out and do lots of cool things.
	Google promptly sent him an invitation to their science fair, where he got to meet with fellow nerds from around the world.
	I think it just makes us glad that he's having a good time, and that he can be with kids that are interested in the same things that he is.
	Next, he's scheduled to meet with...
	That girl, by the way, is a VP of marketing at Google.
	Listen to her.
	She's 12 years old.
	Next, he's scheduled to meet with officials at the United Nations.
	Not bad for a teenager who likes to play with circuits.
	Oh, circuits.
	Have you heard this kid talk?
	Yeah, of course.
	He sounds like an idiot.
	Yes.
	Correct.
	Yeah, get me, sir.
	Yeah.
	He sounds like an idiot, and then all he does is tear stuff apart.
	And if they keep dressing him up in that NASA t-shirt, that thing's got to be smelly by now.
	I mean, or did NASA send him a whole box?
	I can see why he was sent by his sister to do all this stuff.
	Oh, so easy.
	So easy.
	Ugh.
	Now, you heard he's going to the UN. The UN is...
	Oh, please!
	This just gets worse.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And the abuse of this child is going to end poorly because he's a celebrity.
	You know, he loves it.
	He's taking selfies with all the hot girls.
	He's going to crash.
	I guarantee heroin overdose for this kid.
	It's not going to end well.
	I know how this goes.
	First it's some weed, then it's coke, then before you know it, it's crack, and then it's heroin.
	This kid is not good.
	The United Nations came out with a report, John.
	And this report, and words matter a lot in this particular case.
	Hold on, let me bring it up here.
	It was the...
	Hold on a second.
	What do you have for a time check right now?
	Yeah, we're going to go to the blog.
	No, I don't want to end the show.
	I just want to know what your time check is.
	Time check, 210.
	Okay.
	All right.
	The United Nations Broadband Commission for Digital Development released what they call a damning worldwide wake-up call for what it calls CyberVog.
	CyberVog.
	CyberVog?
	V-A-W-G. V-A-W-G. V-A-W-G. V-A-W-G. V-A-W-G. VOG is an acronym, Violence Against Women and Girls.
	And I will start with the...
	What is she?
	Doreen Bogdan-Martin.
	She is a member...
	She's with the ITU, who, of course...
	Some time in the future will be in charge indirectly, but in charge of the ICANN, the assigned numbers and names, and pretty much the administrative part of the domain name system, certainly the registration system.
	And here is her little PR ditty on this report, which you must read, copy in the show notes, of course.
	This new report by the United Nations Broadband Commission for Sustainable Development comes at a critical juncture in the explosion of online apps and services.
	Explosion!
	Hardly a day goes by without some new story in the media concerning cyber violence against a girl or a woman.
	Now...
	Cyber-violence.
	The first three definitions in the dictionaries I consulted, violence is really associated with physical contact.
	I would think so.
	A bomb blows you up, I think that's violence.
	I think somebody coming over and punching you in the nose, that's violence.
	Somebody shooting you.
	This is very, very important.
	Now, the United Nations, they don't do crap, but they do set up all the other believers and the bots to get on board.
	Like, oh yes, violence against girls and women.
	Violence on cyber violence.
	The problem of online violence has become a pandemic.
	I hit you.
	Do you feel it?
	Online violence has become a pandemic.
	It's become a pandemic.
	They love the pandemics.
	Oh, yeah.
	And women and girls are more often the victims.
	Well, at least they're ahead.
	I'd do her.
	Which is commonly seen in comments.
	I'd do her.
	I'd do her.
	Violence, that's violence.
	Is that violence?
	Yes, and you will find out why.
	Oh, it's a big part of the VOG. Our research suggests that 73% of women on the net have already experienced some form of online violence.
	At least women are ahead in something.
	That's good.
	My own agency, ITU, is based in Europe, where our research indicates that 18% of women have experienced a form of serious internet violence as young as the age of 15.
	Serious internet violence?
	What's the difference between serious and minor?
	We're going to say serious internet violence.
	What is serious internet violence?
	We're going to find out in a moment.
	And that's a shocking figure when we realize that this corresponds to about 9 million women.
	Oh no!
	In this report, we're arguing that complacency and failure to address cyber violence could significantly impede the uptake of broadband services by girls and women worldwide.
	The net is an amazing resource for female empowerment, and we need to ensure that as many girls and women as possible benefit from the amazing possibilities it offers.
	So cyber violence comes down to speech.
	This is an anti-free speech thing, which is very important for everyone to adopt.
	We shouldn't be talking about anything.
	I'm surprised this show is allowed to be on the air.
	Well, for instance, the things that come out of my pie hole often could be considered very violent.
	And the solution, and look for this term, is an effective TOS. Effective TOS. That's the term we need to be on the lookout for.
	Terms of service?
	Effective terms of service, yes.
	Which describe very well what you can and cannot say.
	And of course, Reddit was, you know, I would say the canary in the coal mine on this.
	And as we all know, that douche woman was kicked out because she was a woman, not because she was a shitty CEO and a liar.
	But who should appear at this UN meeting about this violence towards women but Zoe Quinn?
	And now it all comes together for me.
	Do you know what...
	What are you doing?
	I'm trying to add dramatic sounds.
	We don't have enough dramatic sounds.
	Okay, good.
	Well, I like it.
	I like it.
	A little closer.
	A little closer.
	Oh, sorry.
	Do accents.
	You know, accents.
	Do you remember who Zoe Quinn is?
	The name...
	I'm trying to...
	Without looking it up, I'm trying to dig through my gray cells, but I can't come up with it.
	I've heard of it, though.
	Gamergate.
	Gamergate.
	This is...
	Oh, God!
	Yes!
	Finally, it comes to a head.
	This is the grand poobah of social justice warriors, Zoe Quinn.
	You want to find out about her, you're going to have to do your own research, because I'm not even getting...
	We have no standing in the gaming world, but this is the woman who...
	I want to interrupt.
	We sure got a lot of flack for not covering it.
	Well, I think some of that now, in a way, is justified because this is the culmination of the efforts of the social justice warriors who fight against triggers and trigger words and all these things you can and can't do.
	I'm just going to play until we can handle it no more.
	They give Zoe the floor and just listen to what she's saying.
	We deal a lot with triage, so people come to us when things have already gotten to the worst.
	And I can tell you right now that one of the most effective things we see is an active and humane response on tech partners' side.
	Active and humane response on tech partners' side, John.
	This is going to get great.
	The most effective things, and it's also often sorely lacking.
	This requires proper moderation, which takes into account things like intersexual feminism.
	Intersexual feminism!
	What the hell is that?
	I want some.
	I'd like three pounds of intersexual feminine.
	I think it's where you can be a woman when you're a man.
	Or if you think you're a woman and you were a man, want to be a man.
	And we triage you.
	She triages intersexual feminism.
	So terms of service taking into effect things like the fact that trans women often face a very specific type of violence called deadnaming, where people post pre-transition names in an effort to intimidate, harass, and endanger their lives.
	They need to be trained in things like the way domestic violence can manifest online, because the viral nature of the internet can take all of the goodness about things like marketing, things like grassroots activism, and apply it to domestic abuse just as easily as you saw in my case.
	Now, what's interesting about this Zoe woman is she has all these rules and things that need to be stopped and people need to be protected, yet you're going to hear in a minute, she herself wants to be protected because she's a warrior.
	Of course, we need to protect people who are doing good, but who is going to determine whether you're doing good or bad is ultimately the question.
	Or maybe you didn't, but yeah.
	Well-trained responders, and that requires...
	You hear what she says?
	This is a little ego, bitch.
	She's like, oh, sorry, that was violent.
	She's like, maybe you heard about my case.
	Well, maybe you didn't.
	Maybe you didn't hear about my case.
	My case is so important.
	You saw in my case.
	Or maybe you didn't, but yeah.
	Well-trained responders, and that's not just in tech companies, but as well as law enforcement that don't end up re-victimizing the person dealing with this, as is so common in domestic abuse and other sorts of abuse.
	Which is also, again, not often found.
	And supportive social networks that don't downplay what's happening, that don't tell them to just get offline and hide, which we've seen in cases like Kathy Sears doesn't actually even work.
	Don't just say, we need effective...
	So what she's calling for here is for little cyber units at every social network who are going to take the millions of complaints where, you know, exactly as you said, I do her, I do her.
	And then, you know, come and arrest you and break your kneecaps or something.
	Mental health professionals, because oftentimes these sort of things will not be taken seriously.
	One of my own agents I had to call.
	Why does she have agents?
	That's confusing to me.
	His health care provider, because they thought he was schizophrenic, that people like me didn't exist, and that a bunch of anonymous people doing this to somebody wasn't possible.
	In terms of prevention, education about even just digital self-defense, since we are so far behind on this issue, can keep people safe.
	Whether that's training people on what doxing is, which is when people find your home address and post it online.
	I'm pretty sure she is guilty of doxing herself as an aside.
	Encouraging further action against you or to intimidate and harass you.
	And now here it comes.
	Things like swatting where people call in false police reports to your local.
	I don't think we need a cyber police for swatting.
	If you do that, then, you know, that is something that takes place in the real world.
	There are all kinds of laws against doing that.
	Yeah, that's a real world problem.
	It's not a cyber anything.
	There's no cyber involved.
	There will be people erroneously dispatched to your location to harass you further.
	Just basic things like digital security.
	A lot of people probably, maybe even in this room, probably still use the same password for everything, and in 2015 we have no excuse to keep doing that.
	We also need to see, again, these effective terms of service that take all of the different ways that different people from different Marginalization.
	Oh, John, we're so frickin' doomed, brother.
	We're doomed.
	We need people that are actually belonging to these demographics, working in these departments, so it's not just an echo chamber of a bunch of people.
	Yeah, here's where she's shilling for a job.
	She keeps saying, you know, we need good tech partners, we have to have the right people in the tech companies.
	Cyber police!
	That's what she's talking about, cyber police.
	That are already in tech, deciding what happens to the rest of us.
	Proper legislation that talks to people like me and people that live and work online that doesn't destroy vital things like anonymity.
	Ah, here it is.
	Anonymity.
	So we need anonymity, but we need to be able to find out who is being anonymous.
	And that talks to people like me and people that live and work online.
	Talk to me.
	I know how to help you.
	That doesn't destroy vital things like anonymity, which may seem like a big, bad, scary thing since a lot of people do use it for harmful purposes, but it's also the thing that protects activists like me.
	It's the thing that protects people that have mental illness from the stigma that speaking out about it comes with so that they can find community.
	I like this because I can just say, oh, I have mental illness.
	So, you have to be able to do things anonymously.
	I'm mentally ill.
	I'm sorry, it's the Tourette's.
	A thing that helps people that are discovering their own gender identities and their own sexualities talk with other people without fear of reprisal, and often violent reprisal.
	So, the way I read what she's saying is, do we have to be able to have people be anonymous for, you know...
	For activists like me, for social justice warriors like me to be out there defending against VOG. However, if you do something bad, then we're going to have to know who you are.
	So making sure that people who live and work online and understand these nuances are involved with every step of this is crucial.
	Otherwise, we'll see more embarrassing statements about Siri.
	We need people to actually enforce their own terms of service and shut down bad actors, bad faith websites.
	There are numerous places that host non-consensual pornography and make a profit off of this.
	Yeah, look at our artwork.
	There are individuals on services like YouTube that have made a living off of abusing people like Anita and I who monetize this.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Can you stop and go back about a minute?
	Not a minute, but like 15 seconds.
	I want that term.
	That term went right by me.
	I just forgot it.
	Service and shut down bad actors, bad faith websites.
	Bad faith websites.
	And podcasts.
	Bad faith podcast.
	Bad faith.
	Non-consensual pornography and make a profit off of this.
	There are individuals on services like YouTube that have made a living off of abusing people like Anita and I, who monetize this, who see the mobs, who aren't anonymous, who raise their funds this way to continue attacking, stalking, and harassing us because it's a cottage industry at this point.
	And all of these things need to be taken into account and might be difficult to understand from the outside.
	So if there's one thing...
	Okay, okay, you win.
	Okay.
	I was going to play a little piece of a trailer of a movie that just came out that is being abused for this very same...
	I think we should do this as a feature more often.
	Play some horrible person rambling on in the most obnoxious way and see who could take the most of it.
	Well, there was 26 seconds left and you couldn't make...
	I couldn't?
	I'm sorry.
	You win.
	I said you win.
	You win.
	Do you want to hear the movie?
	This is great.
	I might as well hear that.
	Yeah, you might as well.
	So there's this woman who has some real shitty disorder.
	She can't gain weight.
	So she's like a stick.
	You've probably seen her.
	And her face looks...
	It's a horror, but it's hideous.
	She's hideous.
	She's a sweet girl.
	I think she did a TED Talk at us, man.
	I'm being Vogue, baby.
	And...
	She met a filmmaker when she did this TEDx talk in Austin.
	And this is the movie, and this explains exactly what the problem is.
	And it's such a sad story when you see this poor girl, the way she looks.
	You want to be all in on stopping bad faith websites.
	A documentary on the life of Lizzie Velasquez, once cyberbullied as the world's ugliest woman, follows her on a 26-year journey from childhood to motivational speaker to present-day activist, taking the discussion of bullying to Capitol Hill and urging lawmakers to take action.
	The 58-pound Velasquez was born with a syndrome that prevents her from gaining weight.
	At the age of 17, Lizzie found a YouTube video dubbing her the world's ugliest woman and had more than 4 million views.
	And I sat there and read every single comment.
	I don't know why I did it.
	I just couldn't stop.
	I think, in a way, I was just so desperate to find a nice comment or find someone who was sticking up for me, and I didn't find it.
	Struggling with her own identity and issues of fitting in, Lizzie eventually became a passionate public speaker.
	I could go on forever.
	I doubt that, because generally speaking, somebody will stick up for anybody.
	I doubt it, too.
	Of course I doubt.
	In a comment list.
	There'll be somebody that's saying, you guys are cruel, which is what you could come in and say.
	And I guarantee someone put in the comment, I'd do her.
	And some asshole would do that, too.
	You're right.
	I'd do her.
	Absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	Both of those things.
	But the point is, this happened on YouTube.
	I mean, yeah, you should get rid of YouTube.
	I mean, the problem is our brains are not set up for what is happening to us.
	We still have tailbones.
	We are not prepared for this type of interpersonal, inter-human communication.
	Witness the face page.
	It's a cesspool.
	It's a morass of muck.
	It's shit, but it's what it is.
	Get the hell off.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm going to say, get off, don't read it.
	Of course, Zuckerberg was in Seattle, and then he was also at the dinner with his wife.
	Yeah, who speaks Chinese.
	Who's a vegan Chinese, and I don't want to be disparaging, but she's obviously not the vegan of the type that eats vegetables.
	She's a starchitarian because she's way too big.
	Starchitarian?
	Common.
	Starchitarians are all over the place, but they consider themselves healthy.
	She eats potatoes.
	Well, it's more like the Cinnabons, if you ask me.
	But he learned Mandarin Chinese just so he could speak to this guy.
	The guy's not an idiot, so he probably learned it with intensive...
	He's one of those guys like Gates who can focus well.
	He learned the language, and he spoke with Xi.
	But the whole point of him learning Chinese so he can get Xi to say, yeah, okay, Facebook, you can come into China.
	And you know what Xi said?
	Man, your bitch better lay off the Cinnabons.
	It's getting heavy.
	Just saying.
	I'm not trying to be critical.
	All right.
	Just pointing it out.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on no agenda in the morning.
	We have a few people to thank for show 760 and also a large group of supporters for my being let go at the other show.
	Now, I want to tell, I think I've told a story before about the Cinnabon guy, but the vegan who essentially made a life of eating Cinnabons.
	Gary Howell, I want to thank him at $189.48, which includes the $89.48 from Houston, Texas.
	As he puts it, it includes a severance donation.
	Val Anonymous Oh, I think I missed a douchebag call out.
	Oh, yes, you did.
	Hold on.
	Been far too long, so I've donated, so please de-douche me.
	Oh, do that almost.
	You've been de-douched.
	And I'd like to make the following douchebag call-outs.
	Josh Reynolds.
	Douchebag!
	Sarah Elzia.
	Douchebag!
	And Rachel McIntosh.
	Douchebag!
	Very good.
	Frank Montwell, I guess, in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
	One, two, three, four, five.
	Daniel Woodleaf in Pittsburgh, North Carolina.
	Regime Books.
	Regime.
	In Koolbinia, Washington, WA, Western Australia.
	One, two, three, four, five.
	Kevin McLaughlin in Locust, North Carolina, 12345.
	Donald Borowski, Sir Donald Borowski, to you, in Spokane Valley, Washington, 12345.
	I have a note I have to read because it's from Starfleet Command.
	No, it's the Intergalactic, what is it?
	It says United Federation of Planets, Starfleet Command.
	Starfleet Command.
	Starfleet Command.
	Hold on a second.
	Incoming message from Starfleet Command.
	I am one of those obnoxious listeners who makes demands in return for a donation.
	For my contribution, I demand that you provide me with the best podcast in the universe.
	If you choose not to comply, return my donation immediately.
	Sir Donald of the Fire Bottles.
	All right.
	W-A-6-O-M-I. Seven threes, K-F-5-S-L-N. Okay.
	I just...
	I think a little time out there to hear what the Starfleet's got to say.
	Joe Esposito in Stockton, California, $100.
	Tyler Sumner in Calgary, Alberta, $100.
	Scott Porter in Garland, Texas, $100.
	Keith McColpin in Imperial, Pennsylvania, $100.
	Anthony Kuzmichich, something like that, in Melbourne, Australia.
	That is in Australia.
	Ben Smith in Greenville, Texas.
	Jeremy Goldsworthy in Midland.
	I'm sorry, Jeremy, it was John Hammock Jr.
	in Andrews, South Carolina, $100, and so was Goldsworthy, it was $100.
	Alexander Salzberg, 9999 in Deutschland.
	James Kachin II in Ashburn, Virginia.
	89.50.
	And now we have the well-wishers who came in at 89.48.
	Although there were a lot of well-wishers at higher amounts.
	Yes, there was a number.
	Everyone was a well-wisher, but this is the well-wishing core group that I would just read in name and town.
	I won't have to keep saying 89.48.
	Although Brian Edlin at Myrtle Beach, South Carolina did 89.49 coyly.
	David Nichols in Cottage Grove, Minnesota.
	James Von Acken in Temple, Texas.
	Greg Birch.
	Sir Greg Birch.
	That's right.
	Sir Dentite in Port Angeles, California.
	I thought he stopped listening.
	I'm going to visit him on the next leg of the tour.
	Oh, good.
	I'm going to go hang out with Mimi and drink your wine.
	Emmanuel Aragni in Parts Unknown, France.
	So I guess it's Emmanuel.
	Bonjour.
	It'll argue, no.
	Simon Reid in New York City.
	Jason Southwell in Pompano Beach.
	Olaf Johansson in Sweden.
	David Villieux in Concord, California, 89-48.
	Boroslav Marinov Sur in Trabuco Canyon, California.
	Tim DeWarren in Round Lake, Illinois.
	These comments, we're not going to read them, obviously, because it's too much, but I'm saving these for my book.
	These are great.
	Yeah, there's a lot of good comments that were made, I have to say.
	Really endearing.
	A lot of them.
	I mean, I haven't got some goodness splashed on me.
	Well, from the comments?
	Yeah, people saying nice things, and nice things about the show, and about me as well.
	I like it.
	I felt really good for you.
	Kwong Liu in Santa Ana, California.
	Sir Stephan Bowe, Baronet from Clear Lake, Wisconsin.
	Stephen or Stephen Schwartz in Schertz, Texas.
	Florian Dvorski in St.
	John's, Florida.
	A lot of new names, by the way.
	Rick LaBanca in Hope, Rhode Island.
	Sir Mike Knight of the High Places in Colorado Springs, Colorado.
	You must have seen him in a meetup.
	Sir Otaku again from Louisville, Texas.
	Sir Schmitty in Richfield, Minnesota.
	Dame Francine Hardaway from Half Moon Bay, California.
	Oh, Dame Francine.
	Dame Francine from Half Moon Bay.
	Tom Schuring in Wheelers Hill, Victoria, Australia.
	Hung Kobe in Hong Kong.
	Sounds like a fake name to me.
	Hung Kobe.
	Stephen Myers in Austin, Texas.
	Benjamin McGinnis in Pickerton, Ohio.
	Sir Evergreen in Evergreen, Colorado.
	Mike Litke in Tinley Park, Illinois.
	Matt Litke.
	Matt.
	I said Mike.
	Yeah, but it's Matt.
	It's Matt Litke.
	Sir Middlemuss in Harrisonville, Missouri.
	Sir Brian Ferguson in Foothill Ranch, California.
	Michael Lopresti in Middleton, New York.
	Baroness, Baronetess, Janice King, Kang in Milpitas, Sir Thomas Nussbaum, who's got a neighbor that's trying to compete with him.
	Yeah.
	In Virginia Beach, Virginia.
	John Grumling in Battle Mesa, Colorado.
	Was he at the meetup?
	I don't think so.
	Tom Moser in Bloomington, Illinois.
	John Anderson in Youngsville, Louisiana.
	Robert Slatt, you think?
	In Glendale, Arizona.
	Yeah, Slatt sounds right.
	Jason Rosenfeld in Kinnelon, New Jersey.
	Wesley Forney in Las Cruces, New Mexico.
	Joseph Kelly in Baytown, Texas.
	Joseph Frost in Wooddale, Illinois.
	Rob Leggett in Cranbrook, BC, Canada.
	Go over by Spasm.
	Mark F. DeWitt in Saudi, Daisy, Tennessee.
	I love some of these towns.
	Saudi Daisy.
	Nicholas Oman in Thief River Falls, Minnesota.
	Sir Richard Gardner in Chicago, Illinois.
	Jason Verner in Schertz, Texas.
	Is that two people in Schertz, Texas?
	Brad Pearson in West Winchester, Virginia.
	Daniel Foster in Maynardsville, Tennessee.
	Timothy Brashears in Cookville, Tennessee.
	Comes in quite a bit.
	Colomona Meyer in Capsus in Washington.
	Capowson.
	That's got to be it.
	John Vale in Pennsburg, Pennsylvania.
	Timothy Chang in Somerville, Massachusetts.
	Jason Daniels in Dallas, Texas.
	Doug Cook in Guthrie, Oklahoma.
	Sir Ted Hosman in Elk Grove, California.
	Radu Pertuck in Gross Isle, Michigan.
	I think.
	Gary Barnick in Glendive, Montana.
	Kirk Satoff in Novato, California.
	Kenneth Learman Jr.
	in San Diego, California.
	David Hoffman in Enola, Pennsylvania.
	Dame Astrid, Duchess of Japan.
	Yo, yo!
	Where the C stands for Chick Magnet.
	I shall write that one down.
	I'd rather stick with the Guardians of Reality any day.
	Damien Taman in Perth.
	Western Australia, a favorite town of mine I've never been to.
	Sean DeSantis in Fort Pierce, Florida.
	M.E.K. Methylethylketone from Cherry Hill Township, New Jersey.
	Hamilton Morris in Mesa, Arizona.
	The law offices of Jason Petrie, P.C. in Rock Springs, Wyoming.
	Hey, so we've got a lawyer now.
	We need to get bailed out.
	We have a number of lawyers.
	Yes, but this is nice.
	It's good to have one in Wyoming.
	Matthew Clay in Bloomington, Illinois.
	Ben Colbeck in Madison, Wisconsin.
	Jeff Mincy in San Jose, California.
	Sir Hank Viscount of Queens in Kew Gardens, New York.
	Russell Girton in Bomaris, Australia.
	Nicholas Stowe in Austin, Texas.
	Right down the street from you.
	Sir Brian Warden in Downs, Illinois.
	Roy Pledge in Canonic, Ontario, Canada.
	Stu Coates in Chelmsford, Essex.
	River Mist Designs in Kagawang, Ontario.
	Daniel McTuff.
	That is a name.
	Daniel McTuff in Silver Springs, Maryland.
	Sir Davey in Rome, Texas.
	Sam Leung in Toronto, Ontario.
	William Bryant in Spartanburg, South Carolina.
	Paul Tevis in Oak Hills, California.
	Bill in Glenrock, New Jersey.
	Matthew Phillips in Wyandotte, Michigan.
	Shane Brady, parts unknown.
	Dame Beth, the Baroness of Baja, Arizona in Tucson.
	Anonymous in Leachburg, Pennsylvania.
	Kevin Dills in Charlotte, North Carolina.
	Aaron Heath in St. Agnes, New South Wales.
	Dan Reeder in Maudsland, Queensland.
	Sir S. Russell Williams, the Baron of Idaho in Boise.
	Go Boise State.
	Eric Asbury in Tampa, Florida.
	Eric Haas in Geneva, Illinois.
	And that ends our group.
	Nice group.
	We want to thank all these people for getting in on this severance pay.
	I love it.
	We do have some leftovers here to follow up with.
	John Tirada, 6969.
	He's never given up on that.
	He is in Pasadena.
	James Romano, New Fairfield, Connecticut, 6660.
	David Charton in Vancouver, Washington.
	That's where I get my computer from.
	$65.
	Brian Warden in Downs, Illinois.
	Kevin Dills, $64.32 along with Brian.
	$64.32.
	Charlotte, North Carolina.
	Joseph Martin in Marquette, Michigan.
	$56.78.
	Which came in as a check, I think.
	Geek Rolling in Pasadena, California.
	55-59.
	Thomas Lane, 55-10 in Vista, California.
	Gabriel the Brazilian in Manchester, New Hampshire.
	55-10.
	That's a cool name.
	I'm Gabriel the Brazilian.
	Brian and Susie Morris.
	Liberty, Maine.
	Brian Hopkins in Honolulu, living it up in Hawaii, 55-10.
	Josh McDonald, double nickels on the dime.
	Sir Kevin Payne in Richmond, Virginia, 55-10.
	54-32 from Kevin Payne, sorry.
	Sir Pablo the Squirrel in Wellington, New Zealand.
	He says he was missed on some squirrel episode.
	Unonymous in Stafford, Virginia, $52.40.
	Eric Hochul, our buddy in Berlin, $52.00.
	Shannon Atkins in Warren, Michigan.
	James Streck in Miamisburg, and she's in for $51.50.
	James Streck, $50.33 from Miamisburg, Ohio.
	And the following last of the list, Are the $50 donors starting with Michael Shambao in Topeka, Kansas, great little town.
	Joseph McLeod in Winnipeg, Manitoba.
	Ryan Hoskins in Yorba Linda, California.
	Daniel Torellio in Charleston, South Carolina.
	Ross Turpin in Troy, Kansas.
	Gerald Inabene in Union, South Carolina.
	Peter Tote, Sir Peter Tote, so you $50, parts unknown.
	Jezza jumped in Melbourne, Australia, 50.
	Chad Rich, 50.
	Parts unknown.
	Donald Napier in Chicago.
	Brian Evans in Berwick, Victoria, Australia.
	Anonymous, Milton, Ontario.
	And as we wrap it up with Alexander Munoz in Hot Springs, Arkansas.
	He did send a note in by hand, I think.
	That's the one we mentioned earlier.
	He needed...
	Good reading, sir.
	I love the show.
	It's not only a valuable recourse, but a value compounded over time.
	He has some math.
	I'll put it in a newsletter.
	Maybe it's showing how much money you can save if you get more, better donations.
	Brian Klimczak in Naperville, Illinois.
	Illinois.
	Benjamin Smith over here in Oakland.
	Sir Bogdan LeHendro in Roanoke, Texas.
	And our regular, twice a month, Sir Mark Tanner down there in Whittier.
	Quite a group.
	Incredible group.
	Before we finish this up, let me tell you about some donations that were made on the spot at the meet-up here in Salt Lake City.
	Again, a great meet-up.
	Loved seeing everybody.
	But there was...
	Oh, I forgot where they came from.
	They drove from far to this beautiful, beautiful girl, lady.
	She calls herself the lunch lady.
	And she made chili.
	It was kind of potluck.
	And she says, yeah, I used to be called a lunch lady, but now I'm known as a dietary service worker at school.
	And she says, all the kids hate it.
	They hate Michelle Obama.
	They hate the shit that they have to make for lunch.
	We haven't really followed all that because our kids are kind of out of school.
	But, you know, you can't.
	You've got bread with no butter.
	The kids.
	And she's so lovely.
	She's like, yeah, and I'm no longer called.
	I used to be a lunch lady.
	And, you know, I'd make cool stuff.
	I'd make the chili.
	I'd make, you know, Sloppy Joe's, a big pizza.
	Now she's a dietary service worker.
	Bread and water.
	Yeah, shut up, slave.
	Shut up, slave.
	Shut up, slave.
	All right, $60 from Sherry Osborne.
	She is the rain stick girl, and she gave me one of her skulls.
	She has these fantastic skulls.
	Look her up, Sherry Osborne.
	Actually, I have her...
	Where's my phone?
	I wrote this down.
	Hold on.
	I want to make sure I get it right.
	Yes, yes, you're rocking it.
	You're rocking it.
	Oh, nutrition service worker.
	There he goes.
	So on the face page, look for Fractal Accents by Sherry.
	Fractal Accents by Sherry.
	S-H-E-R-R-Y. Their stuff not only looks dynamite, but it works.
	It's a fact, and we have proven it many times.
	And John, shake it one more time.
	Who are you shaking it for?
	Are you shaking it for California?
	Shake it for the West Coast.
	Shake it for the East Coast.
	Alright.
	Thank you to Mike and Anissa Scalora.
	12345.
	Give me a check for that.
	Lovely.
	Fletcher Sharp.
	$33 plus two challenge coins.
	And these are great.
	I'll send you a picture.
	It's a challenge coin.
	It's the secret squirrel challenge coin.
	You see a squirrel, and it's a secret, and on the back it says, Don't ask N-O-Y-F-B. N-O-Y-F-B. Yep.
	You got it?
	No.
	None of your effing business.
	Ah.
	Yeah.
	Then we have...
	Let me see if I have everything here.
	And we got...
	This is...
	Oh, let me open this one up.
	Thank you.
	I appreciate the envelopes.
	That's so much easier.
	We have here...
	Oh, my God.
	Uh...
	100 and...
	What is this?
	1, 2, 3, 4, 5, of course.
	And this is from Brian Sirled Morton and family Amanda Arvid and Kayla.
	Nice meeting you.
	Great.
	The kid was great.
	15-year-old kid.
	He was just, you know, no agenda written all over him.
	And he won some Hillary clips, which we've already played.
	We'll play a little montage at the end again.
	Amanda, we'll cherish the picture.
	The two of you took forever.
	Brian, could you...
	He says the one he thought I'd blocked him.
	Anyway, so we thank you for your donation.
	And I want to thank everybody who came to all the meetups.
	It's really good seeing everyone.
	It's...
	I don't know.
	It was...
	Because it's kind of over now, John.
	I'm on the way back now.
	I'm going to go as fast as I... It's going to take me three days to get home.
	You should have a meet-up on the way back just to make yourself feel normal.
	I'm going to, in Albuquerque, I think I'll hook up with Jeffrey Tuhigg and his girlfriend Rebecca.
	Nothing in Moab.
	Just a bunch of rocks there.
	And then after, I think I'm going back through Lubbock.
	I just can't make it.
	Each day is like a six-hour drive.
	And I'll get in Wednesday and then go straight into prep for the Thursday show.
	I'm not complaining.
	I'm just saying.
	Do we have anything else?
	No.
	Okay, just on these donations, John, it's beautiful to see all this outpouring of support, and of course, I'm going to give you some jobs, Karma.
	I did want to say that, as we know, a large percentage of the people who come to these meetups are dudes named Ben, and we're all on the spectrum, we're all kind of messed up, and that's why we work so well together.
	We are the hero of the autistic.
	Yeah, but we're heroes of the spectrum.
	It's true.
	Everyone feels comfortable around the No Agenda family because we don't condemn.
	We only do that on the show.
	On the show, for sure.
	The show we do a lot.
	Vogue.
	Vogue.
	But a lot of them found out about the show through Twit.
	Well, you'll find that most of the people that do one of these meetups, again, it's not a lot of them, you know, a few dozen maybe at the most, they all end up meeting each other and a lot of them become friends after the fact.
	Absolutely.
	Oh, long-time friendships have come out of this.
	My point being...
	We're really a friendship club.
	Yes.
	And we should all have friendship rings.
	Or night rings do the trick.
	I guess my point is, or what I wanted to ask you, should...
	I mean, are you really done for good done?
	But, you know, if it was like...
	If you got a message saying, hey, you know, things got a little heated, you know, let's chill out.
	Well, I had a...
	I sent a tweet out about, you know, let's face reality.
	And there's a couple of naysayers.
	I mean, hundreds of people are wishing me well and saying, oh, you know, it's douchey for Leo to get all worked up about a simple tweet that had nothing to do with him.
	Although I could see that.
	I've always felt your presence on Twitter has been good for our show.
	And quite honestly, it makes that show watchable for me.
	And I like it.
	And I will miss you.
	I will miss you.
	Yeah, well, I think that the show was going in a direction, and I think the network as a whole is going in kind of a different direction, more of the idea of the verge, more lifestyle.
	Yeah, hail Apple!
	Hail Apple, a lot of Apple stuff, a lot of phone stuff, a lot of lifestyle stuff, not so much...
	You know, really discussing in detail anything that's...
	Even a desktop computer was the last time that was even mentioned.
	Because, you know, there's some...
	At least the group that's running the place has a sense that this would be more...
	There'd be growth in that arena.
	I personally don't think so.
	I don't think so.
	And I do like to talk about certain kinds of nerdy stuff, or trends, kinds of trends, like the Internet of Things.
	When they bring it up, it's always like, this greatest thing ever is going to happen, and it's like, not necessarily.
	I do have, when I did my interview with John Scully, which I produced at least parts of it on.
	Yeah, that was a great interview.
	We've had it on the show, but we also...
	John, John, John, John, stop.
	You are a figurehead.
	You're an icon in tech.
	And I hate that I said tech.
	But there's no doubt about it.
	And you make people think.
	You...
	Every day I meet people who say, you know, for 25 years I've been reading Dvorak.
	And it's not about your prowess or your knowledge.
	It's, you know, it's what you do.
	And sometimes you say funny things.
	Sometimes you are very good at taking an alternative view.
	And I think it will be missed.
	I personally would like to see if there is a crack in the door, if it's still open, should...
	You feel comfortable and someone say, hey, you know, should we give this another shot?
	Or is the format of the show no longer valuable to you?
	I think it's going to move in a direction where I will be so irrelevant to what they're talking about that I don't think there's any opportunity there.
	There's no way that, I mean, it's just not going to, I don't, the way I see it, no, is the answer to the question you're trying to ask.
	Well, that's a sad day.
	Well, that's the way it goes.
	Yeah, it's okay.
	Well, anyway, thank you everybody for helping John out.
	And I'm talking more about the...
	It's nice.
	It's nice when you're recognized when your job kind of, in a way, was to be shit on.
	There's that element that's annoying, yes.
	But, you know, I get put up with that.
	You can take it.
	It's very, very difficult to do.
	Very difficult to do.
	Anyway, I salute you, sir.
	Thank you.
	Thank you for your courage.
	Thank you for your work.
	I appreciate your work, man.
	I respect it.
	It's really, really good.
	It's fabulous stuff.
	Did I suck up enough?
	Eh, it's not necessary.
	Dvorak.org slash NA This one's for you!
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Oh, yeah.
	This is going to be really short hour.
	Alexander Munoz says happy birthday to Nurse Caitlin.
	This is a belated birthday.
	She celebrated on September 7th.
	And we say happy birthday to her on behalf of everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.
	We have a couple of barons.
	We have Sir Funk.
	Becoming Sir Funk, Baron of Brisbane, Australia, in exile.
	Sir Funk, Baron of Brisbane, in exile.
	Sir Skits becomes Sir Skits Baron, Dixie Protector of the Swanee River.
	Swanee...
	Did he specifically say river?
	Yes.
	Oh, okay.
	Is that wrong?
	No, no.
	Swanee is also just a generic term.
	How I love you.
	How I love you.
	Who is that?
	My dear old Swanee.
	Al Jolson.
	Okay.
	All right.
	All right.
	We do have a couple of knightings here.
	If you...
	Hello?
	Blade?
	I'm stuck.
	Oh, there you are.
	Sir Delfin, Kevin B66, Dr.
	Wookie, and Chad Gertz into the stage, please.
	We are very happy to pronounce KD, the Knights of the NOAA General Roundtable, and very, very proud that you've supported the best podcast in the universe in the amount of $1,000 or more, and I hereby pronounce KD, Sir Delfin, Sir Black Balls of Twit, Sir Dr.
	Wookie of the Medical Establishment, and Sir Chad of Van Port.
	For you gentlemen, we have...
	Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay, Johnny Walker, Green Label, Video Games and Vaporizers, Saki and Sushi, Puppies and Taylor Vintage Port, Malted Barley and Hops, Porn Stars and Pot, and of course...
	We always have the mutton and mead.
	And I appreciate all of the help today.
	Also, people who came in with lower amounts, mainly for reasons of anonymity and obviously on the subscriptions.
	Thank you very much for supporting the show.
	It's nice to know that a show can be done completely honestly without any advertising, supported entirely in content, in time, in kindness, and financially by the people who enjoy the product.
	We make this product for you.
	You are not the product.
	That is the big takeaway message.
	Yes, that is absolutely true.
	Uh-oh.
	Attention all human resources.
	Now entry.
	Second path of souls.
	Yes, second half of show.
	This is big, John.
	Big, big news!
	Tomorrow's the end of the world.
	That's correct.
	Tomorrow we are all going to die.
	That was already planned.
	We know that.
	However, more interesting, perhaps, is that Austin, Texas, will be home to a very exciting event.
	And since I live there...
	I am very happy to announce that I will be attending this great conference and I will be bringing a full report.
	All reports look good from here in the Blockhouse at this time.
	Hi, this is Dark Journalist.
	Please join me at the Secret Space Program conference in Austin, Texas on the weekend of October 31st as I host this special event that will bring together great minds like former Assistant Housing Secretary Catherine Austin Fitz, Coast to Coast AM investigative reporter Linda Moulton Howe, Oxford scholar Dr.
	Joseph P. Farrell, and others who will unravel the secrets of the breakaway civilization, the black budget, and advanced technology.
	Please visit secretspaceprogram.org for more details.
	See you there.
	Yeah, baby, I'm going.
	Austin, Texas.
	What?
	You're registered, ready to go?
	I'm registered.
	Yeah, I'm registered.
	I got tickets.
	I'm good to go.
	I'm taking Tina the Keeper.
	This is my people, baby.
	Tell her to wear a scarf.
	Now exiting second half of the show.
	Blood moon tonight, everybody.
	I know.
	Don't we have an eclipse as well?
	Yeah, eclipse that starts at 6 o'clock on the West Coast.
	I think it's going to be dynamite in Moab, Utah.
	I think that's going to be one of the best places in the world to watch it.
	You're going to be out there where you can see the stars.
	Yes, exactly.
	Okay, I've got two clips I want to get to.
	All right.
	First of them is a, this is a Ask Adam, kind of.
	Well, you always say kind of.
	Does that mean I'm supposed to?
	Well, it's because it's not the technical Ask Adam, which was that Ask Adam began with movie clips.
	Can I play the jingle?
	That's all I want to know.
	Ask Adam!
	Somebody devoted an awful lot of time to a variety of Ask Adam jingles.
	Oh, there's so many of them, John.
	They're so good.
	Let's see, what is this one?
	Ask Adam, ask Adam, will he know or will he won't?
	I don't know, but here we go.
	Ask Adam, ask Adam, yeah.
	I've forgotten about that one.
	That's probably the best one.
	That's a good one, yeah.
	Okay, so what's wrong?
	Now I'm going to look at, we had a new story I'm going to ask you as a would-be, as a journalist trainee.
	Trainee journalist, okay.
	There's a certain bunch of rules.
	Now this is David Muir, and guess what is wrong?
	This is a story on the damaging effects of faulty wiring on various whatever.
	Okay, so what is my question?
	The question is going to be, What?
	I'll tell you what.
	Play it first, and then I'm going to ask you after.
	Oh, but that makes sense.
	I don't know what to listen for.
	Okay, okay.
	I can do this.
	This is absolutely the way to do this one, because as you listen, what the question is, will it become apparent or not?
	Ooh, here we go.
	Frog.
	Frog.
	We're going to turn next tonight to the driver trapped in a speeding car on a California freeway.
	The cruise control locked.
	ABC's Nick Watt teaming up with KABC tonight with the 911 call and what came next.
	Car swerving all over the place.
	Man, I'm so scared.
	He's driving at over 70 miles per hour on a busy California freeway, and 29-year-old Trevor Robin is in deep trouble.
	My accelerator is stuck, and I have no idea what to do.
	My cruise control will now turn off.
	His 15-year-old pickup stuck in cruise control.
	Little the highway patrol can do.
	I'm just afraid of other people getting hit.
	This terrifying 911 call obtained by Los Angeles station KABC. I don't want to die.
	Minutes later, impact.
	First, Robin's vehicle striking the embankment and sound wall, then going airborne, overturning and landing in the roadway, ejecting him.
	Tonight, Robin remains in the hospital with head and spinal injuries.
	So, What do you do if this happens to you?
	If your cruise control jams will first try to shift into neutral.
	If that fails, you can brake heavily.
	And as a last resort, you can just shut down the engine.
	David, just an incredible story, Nick.
	Thank you.
	Okay.
	The question would be, why didn't he just shut down the engine?
	The question is going to actually be, what's missing from this story?
	Toyota Prius.
	Well, you're close.
	The correct answer is the car was never named.
	Right.
	The vehicle was never named.
	What car was it?
	This is a major...
	You come up with this horror story and then you can't...
	Don't tell us the name of the car?
	Right.
	Right.
	What was the point of it?
	Well, the point of it was, and this is what you just reiterated, some advertiser's going to get bent out of shape because this old clunky, I believe it would be a Chevy truck, I don't know for sure, he was wrecked.
	But they would complain, you know, we do a lot of advertising with ABC. Oh, yeah.
	Don't you think?
	Probably.
	Why else would you leave it out?
	So that's the corruption that we fight on this show.
	So that's why everyone should be happy about contributing to what we're doing now.
	Well, can I hook in with a little car news?
	Yeah, sure.
	Okay.
	I guess it was a big car show.
	Maybe this was the show that Volkswagen was supposed to present something at.
	Oh, that could be.
	Now, we've already witnessed, well, it wasn't all that hard of a prediction, but we knew that once the GPS trackers came out, that the insurance companies would first give you a cheaper rate if you let the insurance company track you.
	And the tracking through the ODB2 port is not just your speed.
	It's all inputs.
	It's all kinds of things they're tracking.
	And eventually you will not be able to get any kind of insurance without this type of device installed.
	And now we have a new device.
	Development.
	As Forseer say their active wellness seat is the world's first health monitoring car seat.
	Its biometric sensing system detects if the driver has a drop in energy levels or is under stress and responds with on-the-move therapy.
	The active wellness seat is Forseer's vision on the next level of personalized comfort.
	So what we basically do is to monitor respiration rate and heart rate in the seat.
	And we derive stress and energy level from that.
	And having this kind of wellness being information, we now can offer a closed-loop comfort system.
	So in case you are stressed, you get a relaxation massage.
	I love how they're selling this.
	We're going to track exactly how you're feeling.
	And if you're feeling stressed, we'll give you a nice massage.
	In case you have low energy level, you get a very activational, energizing massage.
	They should just like Pulp Fiction use, like a jam of, you know, some amphetamines into your chest.
	Oh, okay, I'm not drowsy anymore.
	Developed over five years, in operation, the seat analyzes the occupant's heart rhythms and breathing patterns.
	This data is used to calculate their mental and physical state, with a message appearing on a screen in the cabin offering treatment.
	If a user accepts the recommendation, they will receive a massage with a warming or cooling sensation through the seat's ventilation system to either relax or energize them.
	God, I'm driving, I'm feeling horny.
	Would you like a Yeah, that would be really good.
	Yeah, just like that.
	That's really nice.
	This is going to be used against you.
	Oh, of course.
	Everything's going to be used against you.
	I think the point is...
	It's a beauty.
	It's a beauty.
	Hey, I got one last thing in the big arena.
	Now, the timing of this...
	This is a great little no-agenda ditty.
	People love this stuff.
	So we've been tracking the Prime Minister of Japan, Abe.
	He's president or prime minister?
	President.
	Prime Minister.
	Abe.
	Abe's prime minister?
	I don't know if he's prime minister or president.
	Whatever he's supposed to.
	Highest the dolphin.
	Let me look him up.
	Yeah, boss dude.
	Boss dude.
	Okay.
	By the way...
	I'll only insert the ticket.
	So, he changes the Constitution.
	He's like, we should be able to defend.
	We need to be able to...
	Prime Minister.
	Prime Minister, I thought so.
	We need to be able to defend ourselves in conjunction with the United States or with Australia.
	And, of course, we know why he did this, because this is a big sales job for the arms industry, certainly from the United States.
	Suckers.
	Yeah, suckers.
	Now, when you have that set up, so the laws have changed.
	So now we can sell some arms to Japan, and we can get all riled up and all crazy.
	What do we need in order to get the sales cycle rolling?
	An incident.
	An incident?
	Or how about the threat of an incident?
	That could work.
	Kim Jong Un rattles his nuclear saber at America, the head of his atomic energy program declaring the regime's ready to use its nuclear weapons anytime if the U.S. and others pursue their, quote, reckless, hostile policy toward North Korea.
	Kim's also declaring his nuclear program is at full speed.
	The regime says its main nuclear complex at Yongbyon, which produces material for nuclear weapons, is operating normally.
	A U.S. official tells CNN they have no reason to doubt the claim, and analysts take the threat seriously.
	If you look here, the snow melt in this area, snow melt again on the reactor.
	And this is one of these little dipshitty consultants that CNN brings in.
	You've never seen her before.
	She's drawing on the smart board, showing where the so-called nuclear reactors are because the snow is melting.
	Are you kidding me?
	This would indicate that the reactor is functioning.
	It's giving off heat, causing that snow melt.
	Also here in August, you can see tracks leading into the reactor area.
	That again shows that there's significant activity going on at these sites.
	Kim's said to be as obsessed with developing nuclear weapons as his father and grandfather were.
	Remember, his grandfather, Kim Il-sung, the founder of the country, saw the United States bring Imperial Japan down to its knees with two nuclear weapons.
	So this is a regime that's been interested in nuclear weaponry for decades.
	Kim's not stopping there.
	His regime announcing it's preparing to launch a satellite into orbit for scientific purposes.
	The United Nations has warned North Korea to call off the rocket launch.
	A satellite launch vehicle similar to this one pictured here could be used by North Korea to develop an intercontinental ballistic missile that's capable of reaching the United States and delivering a nuclear warhead.
	The North Koreans aren't there yet.
	Weapons experts say they haven't tested re-entry on those missiles and they could break apart.
	Still, these moves bring a warning tonight from Washington, demanding that Kim stop his provocations.
	U.S. officials taking no chances.
	Making sure Kim knows what kind of missile defenses America has at the ready.
	Ground-based interceptors to Alaska, surface combatants to the Western Pacific, a THAAD battery on Guam, another radar in Japan, in order to be ready and vigilant for anything that the North Koreans may or may not do.
	Hello, Japan!
	Our sales case is on the way!
	Hmm.
	I got a note from Aichi Kitagawa who has been tracking this stuff going on and discussed that last incident, the phony baloney thing with the speakers on one side and some poor dead guy who stepped on a mine.
	He says, "Here's what I could find from Japanese media.
	Xi Jinping, newly set September 3rd as Victory Over Japan Day as part of his effort to show that he is in charge of the Communist Party.
	He's been trying to eradicate Zhang Zemin's influence in the name of corruption, the corruption elimination campaign.
	All major Western nations, heads of states, declined the invitation." Remember that invitation nobody went to this party?
	Yes.
	They all declined except the South Koreans.
	And Kim Jong-un was not invited.
	This would look as though South Korea is replacing the North as China's ally.
	So Kim asked China not to invite her.
	She hates Kim, so he ignored the request.
	Kim ordered his men to orchestrate national emergencies so that President Park would be forced to stay.
	Mm-hmm.
	North Korea planted landmines in the DMZ, injuring two South Koreans.
	South responded with propaganda broadcasting.
	North fired a warning shot.
	The South fired back Xi Jinping got pissed off and stopped all the trains to North Korea.
	North Korea was forced to negotiate and eventually apologize.
	This is like a...
	Whatever the story is that's going on over there, we have no clue.
	We're completely...
	We should be doing these reports in the American media.
	It's all bullcrap.
	But I have one last clip, which I'd like to leave it with our audience, because I don't know what it means.
	Oh, well, you want to do that after I do this one clip, this one important piece of news that is not being discussed?
	Absolutely.
	Not being discussed whatsoever.
	In fact, you may even be stunned when you hear this clip.
	I'm ready.
	What is that?
	You're always talking about the choke point over there in Asia.
	We're always trying to set things up so that you can't get through.
	Because it is a choke point.
	It's horrible.
	The Straits of Malacca.
	Oh, yes.
	Yeah, where we have a whole bunch of ships sailing around.
	Yeah.
	If you look at the map, it's a horrible, like, narrow...
	It's apparently where half the shipping traffic in the world has to go through there.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	Play Craw Canal.
	Well, China is already building a new rail network in Thailand now as part of its One Belt, One Road initiative.
	It's looking at an ambitious plan to dig a canal from one side of the country to the other.
	The Krak Canal would cut 1,200 kilometers of the existing sea route.
	Our Thailand correspondent Martin Lowe has this report.
	This is the Kra Buri River.
	It already cuts halfway across the Kra Isthmus in southern Thailand.
	Extending it could open up a waterway from one side of the country to the other.
	One look at a map and it's easy to see why this is something that's been talked about for 300 years.
	Building a canal across Thailand's narrow peninsula would open up a shipping route from the Indian Ocean in the west to the Pacific in the east.
	It would save up to three days sailing on the route around Malaysia and avoid the notorious Straits of Malacca, which are overcrowded and plagued by pirates.
	Sixteen million barrels of oil a day pass through the Malacca Straits, including 80% of China's supply.
	China wants a secure alternative.
	And the Krakenau also corresponds with its One Belt, One Road initiative to improve trade routes across Asia and the world.
	You know, these Chinas, man, they are unstoppable.
	They've got the Panama Canal, the canal there in Nicaragua, which is going to compete with the Panama Canal.
	They're building this canal.
	It's also known as the Thai Canal, I believe.
	Ah, those guys, they're not messing around.
	No, they're not sitting on their hands.
	You have a part two to this?
	Yeah, if you want to play this in a little more detail.
	The benefit is enormous.
	Grajana happens to be at the choke point.
	Who's this?
	Who is this guy?
	Some Asian analyst who said, the word he used was choke point.
	Choke point.
	Choke point.
	Vogue choke point.
	One of the most important choke points in the world, which is the states of Malacca.
	And nothing funnier than laughing about someone's accent.
	I just love that.
	And the Garcanal is going to be a very important alternative to the congested states of Malacca.
	So far, 13 different routes across the Krah Isthmus have been suggested, the most expensive costing US $28 billion.
	China has taken the lead in studying proposals to fund and construct the canal.
	This would be an engineering project on a massive scale.
	The most ambitious of the plans is for a canal 30 metres deep and half a kilometre wide, capable of accommodating ocean-going ships and tankers.
	Just building the canal would take 10 years.
	Nice!
	Within Thailand, there's some concern a canal could isolate the most southerly provinces.
	People don't yet know much about the canal so they cannot see the national benefit, but they worry about Thailand being divided into two parts.
	Supporters say tolls, ship, facilities and development along the canal's banks would bring big financial rewards, repaying the investment in 30 years.
	There would be a major economic benefit.
	Right.
	Adam Curry.
	Shut up.
	Shut up.
	Oh, man.
	All right.
	That's the sign that I'm getting tired.
	Yes, you're getting tired.
	I just had to get that story out of the way because you're not going to hear that story on any network that I can find.
	Absolutely not.
	And I will save my big question for Thursday.
	Oh.
	No, it's saveable.
	It's saveable.
	It's good.
	It'll be good.
	I promise you it'll be good.
	Okay, okay.
	It'll be good.
	No worries, Ma.
	No worries.
	All right, everybody.
	Thank you very much once again for tuning in to the best podcast in the universe.
	We highly appreciate everyone who has supported the Airstream of Consciousness and the I Love Laundry Tour.
	To be continued, this is a never-ending tour.
	Vagabonds in the wild.
	Vagabondo.
	Vagabondo.
	Be on the lookout for us.
	And be on the lookout this coming Thursday when I will have rushed back to bring you my end of the deconstruction.
	And we'll see what John has brought us.
	Always fun.
	And with that, I say thank you, Salt Lake City.
	And in the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	Hello, Salt Lake City!
	I'm John C. Dvorak, and I'm here in northern Silicon Valley.
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	Looking forward to another show right here on No Agenda.
	Now, get out there and whoop Obama's behind.
	Whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin' with the Constitution.
	I hate now.
	Whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin'.
	A Constitution.
	Get out there.
	Whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin', whoopin'. Whoopin', whoopin' with the Constitution.
	Whoopin', whoopin', whoopin' all of them behind.
	A Constitution.
	Whoopin'!
	Someone's getting cornholed today.
	The government is holding this taxi motherfucker The government totally sucks.
	Eat me, Hillary Clinton!
	Okay.
	Your response to this, Ashpen Soltani?
	Well, the fact that he gave a tech talk is amazing on a number of levels.
	But going to the kind of substance of his speech there, one thing to realize is, in fact, yes, the NSA does employ minimization procedures.
	In the face of overwhelming odds, I'm left with only one option.
	I'm going to have to science the shit out of this.
	It's almost too delicious to believe, my friend.
	I didn't actually interact directly with people in the IT arena.
	Somebody whose name was Kenny and I was last name.
	His first name is Ben.
	A dude named Ben.
	And wash your hands after touching any raw.

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