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July 19, 2015 - No Agenda
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740: Losers to Lions
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Okay, Google.
Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
It's Sunday, July 19th, 2015.
Time, once again, for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 740.
This is no agenda.
Jade Helm, 15 plus 4 and counting, and broadcasting live from the capital of the drone, Star State.
In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And from the building of Silicon Valley, where I'm celebrating National Ice Cream Day.
Today, I'm Johnston Crack.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
Another fine commercial scam.
What is this?
A Baskin and Robbins officially sanctioned?
I just read it on Twitter.
There's no proclamation from the president.
It says it's on Twitter.
Twitter's the same thing as the president.
Okay.
Hey, that's swag.
That's swag?
Yeah, I learned this now.
That's a phrase?
Yes, it is.
That's swag?
Swag.
Where did you get that one from?
From my millennial friends.
Swag.
I'm surrounded by millennials.
I've never heard that.
Oh, really?
Oh, I don't know.
Swag.
It's swag.
It means yes.
Or I agree.
Or I agree.
Or right on.
Swag.
Right on.
Swag.
Swag.
I don't believe that'll catch on because it's a term that has secondary meanings that are more powerful than the tertiary meaning.
I would agree.
Look, don't shoot the messenger every time.
News!
Newsflash.
Newsflash?
Newsflash.
I will be attending the Podcasting Hall of Fame induction of myself.
Oh yeah, when's this?
Friday the 31st.
It's coming.
It's coming after 11 days.
Yeah.
I need an acceptance speech.
Yeah, you kept telling me that, and then I gave you some ideas, and you told me to...
Well, hold on.
Here's John's idea.
Okay.
I step up to the microphone, and I say, my partner, John C. Dvorak, wrote a speech for me.
Thank you.
Award.
And then I drop the mic.
Thank you for award.
Oh, I thought it was just award.
For award.
Thank you for award.
Drop the mic and walk.
Drop the mic, grab the popcorn.
That would work.
It would be great.
People would say, wow.
That's just what they predicted he was going to do.
What an asshole is what they'll say.
No, they're not.
Oh, come on.
Nobody wants to listen to some long-winded speech when somebody's accepting an award.
They don't even want to be there if they didn't win.
I disagree.
Oh, what?
It's fun.
You disagree?
You think people are actually going to these award shows to hear some long-winded, and I'd like to thank the Academy, my mom, my dad, especially you, dad.
I love you, dad.
Our creator.
That kind of thing?
You really think so?
No, I don't want to do a long-winded speech, but I have to do something.
Well, I got a new idea.
Okay, what's that?
A short history of podcasting and where it's headed.
With an upbeat kind of a conclusion.
Well, I was thinking about this.
And then you hold up the award at the end.
At the very end, here's the way you have to do it.
at the very end, after you're done with your little spiel, you hold up the awarded way up in the air, you grip tightly and up in the air and you go, go podcasting.
Go podcasting.
Go podcasting.
We're unstoppable.
*laughter* My mom would be so proud.
I'm a podcaster.
It's kind of strange, though.
The whole thing, like a Hall of...
I mean, I do this because if you don't do it, then, you know, then people forget.
You never get invited back.
Yeah, well, there's that.
And then, you know, people forget.
I'm already seeing the 10 years of podcasting articles that pretty much, you know, like...
You're being left out.
Oh, yeah, of course.
Of course.
I don't need to be mentioning everything.
Yes, you do.
It has to do with podcasting.
You should get a publicist.
Just pound people who don't write about you.
The guy invents the whole thing and you don't even mention him?
Dude.
Did you ever hear of him?
No.
Well, then you don't even know what you're doing.
I was thinking about podcasting, though, and really how NPR, who I think are with Serial, or the NPR people, it's not necessarily NPR, the Serial podcast is without doubt responsible for a lot of good ink that came back at this 10-year anniversary.
Oh, yeah, everyone's all jacked up about it.
Yeah, but what is so sad is that these NPR people had no idea.
They couldn't monetize it.
They couldn't capitalize on it.
They could not own it.
They have not been able to do this.
Yeah.
And I was really thinking, what is it?
Why is that not working?
And also, why did Podshow not work for that matter?
I mean, it worked for a long time, but it really didn't last off.
Well, I have some thoughts on why the NPR thing didn't work.
Okay.
Okay.
First of all, I think we're dealing with NPR. We're dealing with a Kodak phenomenon.
They invented the digital camera.
They were all over it.
They had a lot of good cameras.
They had so many ingrained film guys in the company all throughout, through the executive part of it mostly, that couldn't get their head around that their side of it is a dying side, even though it was still making money, which is the NPR thing.
They don't see...
They broadcast, and they have a formula, and they have these deals with these little affiliates, and everybody gets, you know, they don't have, they're not stepping all over them.
Well, you know, I think what's changed is, and you see that why we call our listeners producers, we've really seen radio, certainly, you know, not music radio, but informational radio, the concept of the broadcast network has been inverted.
Let me see if I can explain.
So it used to be that you'd have a network, and the network was centralized, centralized programming, and it used affiliates to distribute the programming.
And now the affiliates...
Have become contributors.
The affiliates, what we call producers, and are also, you know, our listeners, they're actually producing the programming.
And that's what NPR can never allow because they're so full of themselves.
You know, well, we can't just have people sending us jingles, so that's just no good.
We can't do that.
No, we have to have them have to be all zeroed out, zero dB.
We have to do it ourselves.
We can't have anybody doing this.
No, no, no, no, no!
Well, there is that.
I can assure you that if somebody sent in a jingle that was catchy like that little one you just played, they would never get it on the air.
Never.
For the exact reasons you cite.
It would never happen.
Why would we do that?
Why would we let these people do that?
It's 31 seconds, not the required 30 seconds.
We can't do this.
No, we can't do this.
No way, man.
There's that, too.
Yeah, no.
You are dead right about this not taking advantage of cereal.
Yeah.
It was a phenomenal.
I don't think it was phenomenal.
It was a phenomenon.
Well, I don't know because I actually only listened to a little bit of it.
But it was a phenomenon is what I'm trying to say.
And everyone's all jacked up.
Oh, who's podcasting in the future?
And they write a bunch of articles and then it fades out.
And it's all the same things.
How do we make money?
How many downloads?
How do you know if someone listens?
We're going through the same cycle, the same loop.
But then very, very slowly, things like the No Agenda Show do creep in.
Well, except for today.
Yeah, I know.
I saw the spreadsheet.
We have no interest in today's show.
We have one producer.
Yeah, Adam, please go back to Holland or whatever and go away.
I was thinking.
Yeah.
Adam comes back.
Hey, Adam's back.
Hooray.
Yeah, whatever.
Whatever, dude.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
You want to do our one producer now, since we're at it?
Oh, we could.
I have a spreadsheet open.
Well, give me a moment, because I will say thank you very much for your courage.
And in the morning to you, John C., where the C stands for crazy like a fox.
Dvorak.
Well, in the morning to you, Adam Curry.
In the morning, all the ships at sea, the boots on the ground, and the subs in the water.
In the morning to everyone in the chat room, noagendastream.com.
Good to have you all on board.
And in the morning to our artists.
In the morning to Ivan.
Ivan brought us the artwork for episode 739er.
And what was that?
Hmm, hold on.
What was the 739 artwork?
It was the Bernie thing, wasn't it?
Oh yeah, Weekend at Bernie's.
Right, right.
Yeah.
That gag has been done, I think, a couple of years ago.
It still works.
Without Bernie.
Right.
Not quite the same.
It still works.
It still works.
You know, this is interesting.
I've had this problem with this browser.
I'm going to have to run some stuff.
You do need to keep talking in the mic.
I'm sorry, I'm off the mic.
You remember the thing we talked about that you said it would be gone when I got back home?
No.
Yeah, well, it's because a couple of things.
One, I didn't swap out the mic that would have a better rejection.
Okay.
And the second thing is, is I didn't hook up the NUC as the podcasting machine because it has, apparently, Intel, when they sent me this thing to look at, they put a copy of a beta version of 8.1, and now when it calls home, it says, sorry.
Oh.
Oh, I see.
I got it.
You need to put some...
So I have to go...
I have a copy of...
This is very interesting to me that this does this.
I have to boot...
I had to put Windows 7 on it, which is a step backwards, but then I'll upgrade it to Windows 10 when they allow that.
Hmm.
Well, what happens is, from time to time, you just fade out.
You fade way down into kind of...
Well, sometimes they go off axis.
It's the problem.
Yeah, well, stay on the axis, will you?
Well, here's what the deal is.
If you tell me to go to the spreadsheet or do anything on the computer screen, I have to...
The mic is in the way.
Pesky little thing.
Why do we have...
You should get one of those Britney Spears things.
You know, the...
What is it?
The Radio Man?
What is it called?
The Countryman.
Countryman, right.
I've used countrymen.
I don't like them.
Actually, when I was at an NAB conference, I had the countrymen people.
I went to their booth and had them show me how to put that mic on properly.
As I look out there, nobody puts it on properly.
The mic should actually be touching your cheek.
Right.
Should be actually in contact with your face.
But you've got to bend it.
Yeah, you bend it this way, and then you bend it that way, and then you bend it, and then you get it on, and it just snaps.
So tell us, what microphone are you on today?
I'm on the CAD 3000.
Okay.
It's something strange.
I'm not sure what it is, but it dies off.
So you'll be talking.
Here's what it sounds like.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
I'm talking about how it's happening.
Great.
Yeah.
I don't know why it's doing that.
So, extremely disappointing.
We have one guy as the producer.
He came in with $200 from Amsterdam, of all places.
This is Paul Oppenhofen.
Oppenhofen.
Oppenhofen.
Yeah, I'll take it.
Paul.
Yeah.
From Amsterdam, $200.
So he's the lucky winner of the $200 you get in executive producership because you're the highest that came in, the highest and the only that came in over $200.
Next Tuesday will be a birthday, he writes, and next Tuesday it'll be the birthday of the love of my life.
And since she left me a wonderful note on TBPOTU, the best podcast of the universe.
I guess.
It should be in the universe.
But it's okay.
We'll take of.
I like it.
When it was my birthday in February, I'd like to return the favor, ignoring the fact a few weeks ago we followed one of our other traditions as well, which is ending our relationship during the summer.
It's a fine...
I think this is a very interesting idea.
Just, you know, you know what, baby?
I'm just going to take the summer off.
All right?
I'll see you in fall.
We always were like water and fire, although we could make each other extremely happy.
The opposite was very true as well.
Some moments it felt like I'm missing a leg, not having her around anymore, but I think we can truly say we've tried everything and there's no doubt in my mind we love each other.
This is why we're breaking up, Nani.
I love you so much and we need to spend some time apart.
When we first met I hailed science and nothing to hide and had this strange urge to be normal I was burning away my life juice She taught me it was okay to be weird, gave me the inspiration to change, and taught me to think for myself, and of course hit me in the mouth.
Ah, one of those switcheroos where the woman hits the guy in the mouth.
Mm-hmm.
Which is always interesting.
More commonplace than you think.
Ah, well, they don't brag about it as much.
No.
I will miss her and her wonderful family, Ad, Arjan, and Dita.
Ad, Arjan, and Dita.
Dita, Dita.
But I am thankful for the time we've had, and I know it's for the better.
I'm sure she will find happiness, and she will always have a special place in my heart and thoughts.
What's her name, by the way?
I know who it is.
It's Ancilla.
Oh, okay.
She moved to Berlin, and I think that kind of complicated things.
I don't know.
I'm not exactly sure.
That would complicate things.
I'm moving to Berlin!
On a positive note, Adam, you never know, maybe this Christmas she will now cook for you in her Christmas outfit.
I've seen photos of her Christmas outfit.
It's not too much trouble.
Can you play my own jingle?
Oh, that's right.
Paul did the...
He's the Obama A-team guy.
That's right.
That's right.
Hopefully my new jingle attached to this note...
No, he's got a new jingle attached to this note.
Which is the one I just played.
You just played.
But I'm going to play a short version now for...
Because he sent a long version and a short version.
And if you're really in a good mood, ISIS in America, because it's so wonderfully produced...
I must have done that one, too.
Top it off with some relationship karma for her and everybody who needs it, please.
And he will become, even though his donation level was associate executive producer, since he's the only one, he wins the top spot, the coveted executive producer, sole executive producer of episode 740.
Right?
Yes, it was a...
There's a need for a rescue mission.
When the world is threatened, the world needs help.
It calls on America.
And that's the story.
No, no, no, no.
*music*
Isis I inadvertently played the long version again, but I'll play it.
The short version, I'm sure, will be played more in the future.
I'll play it later.
And that's it.
Well, that's it.
That's all we've got.
Well, it is quite disappointing, I have to say.
Yeah.
This is your welcome back.
And your whole newsletter focused very much on what it takes to produce this and...
I didn't really.
Feel on deaf ears.
Yeah, feel kind of flat.
Although, I will say that there's something amiss with the, even though I get a bunch of feedback, because I sent a little secondary mailing out saying, hey, check your spam box, because we're losing a lot of opens.
Like a lot.
Oh, okay.
I received it, no problem.
A massive amount.
You didn't go to spam on my box.
Well, I got a lot of notes.
Well, maybe people are just like, oh, screw it.
I don't have a problem.
Maybe you need to put more different kinds of pictures in there.
Maybe kittens are done.
I don't know.
You think the mail guys, Google and those people hate cats?
Yeah, they're filtering that right out.
Just because there weren't a lot of opens doesn't mean that it went to spam.
Just people didn't open it.
Maybe the subject line was wrong.
What was the subject line?
Hello?
Hello?
Is it me you're looking for?
No, this open thing is noticeable to me.
You know what you're doing.
Believe me, I've been doing this long enough now that I have a sense of it, which is what you'd get to.
And I know what a crappy subject line will deliver.
This is below that.
So you think that a lot of Gmail went to spam or promotions?
We had one of our listeners, sub-producers, write in on Twitter.
She says, hey, hey, you.
The last eight emails have all gone to spam when it never has before.
It was Hotmail.
And I keep whitelisting and whitelisting and whitelisting and it still goes to spam.
So that's a problem.
Hotmail, that's a problem.
That's a problem.
Well, you know what you're supposed to do?
You're supposed to go to one of those companies and get yourself whitelisted anywhere, and you pay about, what is it, $50,000 a month?
Hey, hey, you.
MailChimp should be paying the money.
I agree.
To me, somebody's pointing this out to me, one of these guys who knows how the email system really works.
And he says that MailChimp is every once in a while goes through some pipe that is just a piece of crap that they've just auto-spammed right into the spam boxes and there's some other issues.
It's annoying.
Well, we have one of our producers works there, so I'm sure he will get back to you on that.
Yeah, I hope so, if he's listening.
He may not know there's a show on.
But, you know, Gmail did change something significant in the past week.
Yes, there has been a...
Gmail has made a change, and Google's been making these changes to the point where SEO folks that call up an SEO expert...
Well, besides the search part, but they specifically changed something with Gmail, and a lot of people...
I read a lot of posts about how a news group or mailing lists...
Where people, you know, are responding back and forth and, you know, whatever, just talking.
You get copies of the posts on the email.
Those have gone to spam.
And I also noticed, because when Google changes these things, these gray lists or these black lists, they get updated as well.
And I run my own mail server and I subscribe to a number of these lists because they do, you know, typically it's pretty good.
But I think a lot of things got added that shouldn't have.
There must be some automated process where when Google adds information, Certain sites or certain scenarios to their blacklist.
I think it propagates.
But, with that said, I did get the newsletter, so it wasn't a problem for me.
But if people want to have Google control their email, fine.
This is what you get.
It hurts us, too.
A lot.
Horribly.
So let me open up my Gmail account and see what a fine job they're doing on this.
Okay.
Mail from Neiman Marcus.
25% off.
Summer home sale.
And soon.
And that is in your regular inbox?
Yes.
Truecaller.
Someone just searched for you on Truecaller.
Oh, really?
Who cares?
This is fun.
Let me look at my Gmail.
I have a Gmail.
Seeking Alpha.
Goog.
Does Google have any more upside?
This is all that did not go to spam?
No, this is not in the spam box.
This is the box that I have where the...
The regular inbox.
Yeah.
Google billing.
Google AdSense.
Action required to get paid.
Well, there's something.
At least that's in the word.
Do you get the Motley Fool's crap spam?
Oh, the spam.
Yeah, I do.
Lord and Taylor.
Never miss...
This is the headline.
Never miss a fashion moment.
Neiman Marcus.
Stay up to date on the latest trends in fashion news.
It's working.
Oh, yeah.
Thank you, Google.
Okay, Google.
Don't tell them that.
Don't do that.
It's funny.
Never mind.
Here's something in Russian.
I don't even know what this is.
Listing alert.
Homes for sale in the 92127 area or zip code.
This is like somebody else's email.
I'm going to move on to our PR segment.
As we have some more information on the No Agenda CD Las Vegas meetup during DEFCON 23.
You'll want to pay attention to this, and I will put the PR mention into the show notes.
This is from Ramsey Cain.
Yes.
We're having No Agenda meetup in Las Vegas this August, DEFCON 23.
We'll start things off at 6 p.m.
on Saturday, August 8th at the Encore Lobby Bar and Cafe, located in the glorious Encore Resort Casino.
If you're planning to attend, let us know by emailing noagendacd at gmail.com or find us on Twitter at noagendacd.
And they're hoping to have noagendacd and t-shirts for everyone.
So if you want that, Ramsey says, let us know your size.
Shirt size, not CD size.
Okay, hail Apple.
Good.
August 8th.
CD size.
He wants to know if I'm coming this year.
I don't know.
Well, is this during the awards?
No, it's August 8th.
No, no, no.
This is something completely different.
Completely different.
Okay.
Well, just briefly, the executive producership is an actual credit, and we're very happy that Paul received that.
He's done some fantastic work for us, and we appreciate the support of the work and of the show and his relationship karma.
Shout out there to his summer ex.
You never know.
They could get back together again.
Well, she leaves Berlin.
We'll keep our eye on it.
So please feel free to put these credits on your LinkedIn, where they appear to work very, very well.
And of course, we always need everybody out there doing the very important work of propagating our formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
What?
Order.
Shut up, slave.
Shut up, slave.
Yo, yo.
I'd like to start it off with some local Texas news, which is...
The murder of that poor woman who hung herself in the jail, supposedly?
No, no, no, no.
Planned Parenthood.
Oh, the baby choppers.
Yeah, the baby crushers.
Now, what's interesting is when you...
It's so difficult for the mainstream media, who have always been all completely in on Planned Parenthood, obviously without a lot of investigation or looking under the hood, so to speak...
It's very hard for them to accept what has taken place here.
And I had one additional thought about what is going on.
But the first thing that I'm noticing is the mainstream talks about tissue.
Oh, well, you know, for fetal tissue.
No, no, no.
If you watch the video, which you can tell, but even what's her name?
Megyn Kelly.
She hasn't seen the video.
I can tell by the question she's asking.
She hasn't actually watched the entire video, which is not that hard to do.
Because they are talking about full-on organs, lungs, heart, liver, lungs and liver.
I don't know if they actually mention heart, but lungs and liver.
Actually, they do mention heart at one point.
And how they do something specific to extract the fetus, which is really a partial, you know, it's a live birth.
They extract the fetus so as not to damage the organs inside.
There's entire instructions.
This is where it gets very, very shady.
I'm about to let a lawyer speak to it.
It's one thing to have a process of an abortion.
If you then change that process specifically to retrieve organs, there's some legality issues with it.
And the lawyer, of course, who I'm going to talk about, is Ted Cruz.
Who is way down the list on favorites for winning the presidential, the Republican nomination for president.
But he does have some good information here.
These tapings of Planned Parenthood selling body parts are grotesque.
It highlights the evil of what they're doing.
They say it isn't a sale.
You know, two things need to happen.
Number one, there needs to be a criminal investigation.
There are at least three federal laws that are potentially violated.
One, selling the body parts of unborn children for profits.
Number two, for any transfer of tissue there has to be written consent from the mother.
And number three, Under federal law, you cannot change the method of abortion if you're trying to get tissue.
In that tape, you see they're discussing different methods to capture.
And so I'm calling on the U.S. Department of Justice to investigate, has federal law been violated?
And I'm calling on state officials in any location where Planned Parenthood exists, for state district attorneys, state attorneys general, to investigate criminal conduct.
And I'll say in addition, That I serve on the Senate Judiciary Committee.
I believe the Judiciary Committee will hold oversight hearings to get to the bottom of what they did.
And I'll tell you right now, I chair the Oversight Federal Rights and Federal Courts Subcommittee.
And if the full committee doesn't hold hearings, I intend to hold hearings to get to the bottom of what appear to be barbaric practices being carried out by Planned Parenthood.
And barbaric is the word you'll hear over and over again.
All of a sudden, now we're going to...
Everyone across the board is going to say, oh yeah, this is kind of barbaric what they're doing.
Barbaric.
They dropped a meme in there.
I checked with our...
Hold on before we go on with that, because he does bring up a point, because I watched the whole thing.
Yeah, it's the whole interview.
It's a little less dramatic than the edited version.
Well, this is just one.
Oh, you mean of the video, you mean?
Yeah.
Yeah, I watched the whole version.
I watched the whole thing.
And I think they can slide on a couple of things.
They can slide on the profit thing, because it's $30 or something, whatever their charge is.
But I think they can slide on that, and I think they will slide on that.
Just that third one that he brought up that I didn't even know about.
About the procedure.
That, to me, I don't see how you get around it, especially with that woman described doing.
Now, I want to contradict you a little bit because it was between $30 and $100 per item.
Right.
Now, so that could easily be, depending on how many items you want, that could be $500, $600.
Who knows what the market will bear.
Right.
And I was talking to Nurse Tracy, our resident medical professional of the show, and I said, what is the optimum age or gestation period of the fetus for organs that are useful?
And interestingly enough, that's about 20 weeks.
Which is exactly the controversy over late-term abortions.
Let me just throw this out.
It may be possible that the prices for these organs are more, I presume it's going to fluctuate with market demand, that there may be some women who are so desperate That they will keep their child as long as possible.
This is why the entire conversation maybe is about 20 weeks.
Who the hell knows?
It could be they want to move that and keep that, move it up even further or remove it altogether so that they can have more valuable wares to sell, which goes all across the board right down to the provider of the parts, which would be the mother.
It's creepy to think about it, but it could be taking place.
It could be, but that's another story, and that's just a supposition.
And I still believe that they can bring a bookkeeper in, they can do some bookkeeping, cook the books a little bit, and there's no profit involved.
I agree.
I think they can get away.
But they do have to show that the money is actually coming into Planned Parenthood.
That, I think, is going to be interesting.
What if it's not?
What if it's going back to the...
Well, that's a different story.
Right.
Because I believe that the clinics that perform the work, which are affiliated, they are called the providers.
If you watch that video, she talks about the provider.
We'll tell the provider to do this or do that.
Tell them how to extract the fetus, to crush it, to get the organs out.
They may be doing it for profit.
Now, it's one step removed from Planned Parenthood, but you can see the issue.
Well, we have to assume that with Congress on the case that they will never get to the bottom of it.
Yeah, exactly.
But I didn't know about that third element that eluded me.
Yeah, and I also don't, I have not found...
That's going to be a problem.
Yeah, I have to look into the law to see exactly what's going on.
Well, I think he probably summarized pretty well.
And then we had our six-week cycle event on show day, which is always fantastic.
This has happened a couple of times.
I think two or three times.
Yeah, people say, oh, well, you got late.
No, no, this has happened.
I think the shooting at the Navy Yard was on the show day.
It was, yes.
Now, the problem here is I was in transit, and I'm still kind of jet-lagged.
I also have this weird headache that I think is pressurization-related.
Yeah, it's kind of like a sharp headache.
It's related to flying, or long periods of pressurization.
So anyway, I'm kind of out of it, and I never really caught the whole story, so I'm relying on you a bit to help us out with anything that you may have discovered.
Well, there was a couple of things that went on.
Let me take a look at my list here so I can figure out what clips to play.
But first, there was this event where the FBI tried to frame some dummy.
And this was the...
Let me see if I find it.
I got a message.
This is the thing I thought was...
They were trying to make the event, and then they decided to go to Plan B. This is the six-week sucker backup scheme.
This took place a day or two before the other event.
A three-year-old Massachusetts man accused by the FBI of plotting attacks to show support for the self-described Islamic state appeared in court Tuesday.
Alexander Ciccolo was arrested after he allegedly bought a duffel bag full of guns from an FBI witness.
His father, a Boston police captain, had told authorities his son was growing obsessed with Islam.
Ciccolo has a history of mental illness, and his arrest has raised questions of entrapment.
Since the FBI effectively armed him, then charged him with having guns.
While he's accused of plotting terrorist attacks, the only charge against him is illegal gun possession.
Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
He's only charged with illegal weapon possession, not with terrorist...
Yeah, because it was both...
They couldn't pull that one off.
So they made him buy some guns from them and then busted.
For the new listeners among us, I think we should just briefly explain the six-week cycle, which came about when one of our producers, who has ties to the FBI, we'll just leave it at ties, told us, me, directly...
We need these six-week events every six weeks in order to stay relevant, in order to continue our budgets to come through.
We need to show that the FBI is doing good work, and subsequently they get these patsies who are...
I think this guy was also mentally ill.
Yeah, that's your easy picket.
Find some guy who's mentally ill.
They've done this before.
It's so sad.
There's a bunch of examples of this.
Well, there's only examples of this.
Remember those guys?
They were like total retards.
The dummies that were in the warehouse.
They were going to blow up the country.
The retards in the warehouse.
We're going to blow the place up.
Yeah, I'm going to blow it up.
The whole country, I'm going to blow it up.
How are we going to do it?
I think we just do it.
I mean, they just had nothing.
And so they busted these idiots.
It was pathetic.
Alright, so the shooter was some guy, some...
I thought the guy didn't get...
I thought that they took him alive, but I guess he didn't.
No, they...
Well, here's what...
I was watching the...
They had video, and where the guy was shooting through the door, the glass, and where they got him is, like, clear on the other side of the compound.
And supposedly he crashed through this gate with his car.
There's not a scratch on the front.
I don't know how that works.
But that's where they killed him, where his car was ditched.
And there's not a shell casing, not a shell casing marking anywhere.
There are markings on the other side where he shot, apparently, allegedly.
Yeah, there were shells all over the place.
But not where they killed him.
There's no shells.
There's nothing.
I thought he went out in a blaze of glory with all this shooting, and there's nothing.
So, you know, there's strange stuff, as usual.
It's always strange stuff, as usual.
Yeah, yeah.
So this guy is...
If you look at the picture of him, I think he was a smart kid.
And somehow he just turned into this maniac.
Well, depending on what drugs he was put on for his...
Well, there you go.
I think there's some element.
There's obviously some element there.
And he was set off to go do this like a puppy dog.
And off he went.
And he ended up killing five people.
It turns out to be five now.
Yeah, yeah.
And there's no real analysis.
And again, as somebody else pointed out in a different podcast, I'm starting to hear this more now, and I'm glad, nobody ever talks about the drugs on any of these things.
They never discuss the drugs, and everybody's getting all drugged up, and so you're getting a public that is very suggestible.
And it can even be Shantix.
You know?
Could be shanty.
Did we actually take a look and see if we have any reports on what kind of...
We have a number of...
So what happens?
Because there's no real...
We don't know anything.
Here's what I have.
Apparently, he had stopped taking his meds.
But what was he taking?
They won't tell you.
Serotonin reuptake inhibitors, I'm sure, is what the main thing is.
So-called SSRIs.
Yeah, SSRIs.
And everybody's taking those, and they're the worst drug in the world.
And then some people take them voluntarily.
Oh, well, according to the Washington Post, he told friends he had failed his company's drug test after smoking marijuana.
Yeah, that'll do it.
That's right.
Must have been the marijuana.
Let's do these clips.
And this one clip is interesting.
Let's try it.
Well, actually, they're both interesting.
Play shooter, social media, because this is what everyone's trying to get on.
They're trying to get on board on this idea.
And I have a comment about this bull crap.
Al-Qaeda or ISIS ideology.
You know, exactly what those links are back to those organizations.
That is what we still have to figure out.
And ISIS has specifically been asking people to target members of the U.S. military, right?
That's right.
And ISIS has been really much more successful at using social media and calling for Muslims globally to attack at home, not traveling to Afghanistan or Iraq or Syria, and targeting either law enforcement officials or members of the military.
So in that sense, certainly the initial appearance of this attack very much falls in line with what ISIS has been encouraging.
When you mention social media, how cooperative have social media companies been in balancing the privacy rights of their users versus aiding authorities in an investigation like this?
Well, this is a very thorny problem, especially after the disclosures by Edward Snowden.
There's great discomfort between the national security community and social media companies.
I think that social media companies are doing what they can.
In truth, many in the U.S. government think that they can do a little bit more, and that would be disclosing information to federal officials once they see it is clearly associated with terrorist activity.
The fact is that social media and other modes of secure communications are really how these organizations are getting their message out and in some ways communicating.
So it is going to have to be a very cooperative effort between the technology community in the U.S. and abroad and global counterterrorism officials.
Yeah, it's pretty obvious what we're trying to achieve here.
Yes, and now here's the question that should be asked if these reporters are on the panel talking to this guy.
First of all, nobody ever asked this, by the way.
What is the main thoroughfare, let's call it, of social media that these people use for this sort of thing?
It's Twitter.
Twitter, right.
Twitter sells its pipe.
Yeah.
Lock, stock, and barrel, the whole pipe.
The fire hose, I think, is what it's called.
Yeah, it's called the fire hose.
You can get the whole thing.
It costs a number.
It's not cheap.
It's not cheap.
It's not cheap, but you can get it.
You can afford it.
And if you have these budgets, these counterterrorism budgets, you can easily afford it.
And the Library of Congress has it.
They get it for free, I believe.
And so you could go there if you had to.
So there's nothing that these companies are going to give you that you can't get yourself and analyze yourself.
Because these people that work at Twitter are not intelligence agents doing analysis.
They don't do that.
That's not what they do.
Yeah, I also highly doubt that they're going to be looking around and passing on information.
It's probably just a complete sharing agreement.
It's a bullcrap argument.
The federal government, if they don't have the fire hose already, they're nuts, because this is all bullcrap.
Oh, gee.
Now, there is the thing with the direct messaging that, yeah, okay, maybe that's not on the fire hose.
I don't know.
Yeah, but the direct messaging, as we heard from the previous, was it, the Cyber Command director?
He played it on Thursday.
He said that they have no problem getting direct messages from Twitter.
It's not encrypted.
And so I presume all they do is just ask Twitter and they hand it over.
So you would be, you'd have your real intelligence analysts going through the fire hose or, wait a minute, let's just put this, here's another one.
Take the fire hose and you know they've already done this and give it to the NSA. They got all the gear so they can analyze and translate and find these guys on Twitter instantly.
And then when they see them going to direct messaging, then they can go to Twitter and ask them to take, you know, can you give us these DMs?
And they would hand them over like, you know, like they do.
John, are you telling me this is crap?
So what is this argument?
Yes, it's total crap and nobody gets called out on it.
This is nonsense.
They already have all this stuff.
What are they bitching about?
Oh, you know, if they'd be more cooperative.
Oh, if Twitter would just help us when they see, you know, as though anyone at Twitter reads Arabic.
It's bullcrap, and it's annoying, and nobody says anything.
Except us.
Well, we do.
And what support do we get for bringing us this?
Nothing.
We are here, hashtag America, near our hashtag target.
Soon.
There you go.
They're just hashtagging it.
All right, now here's the second clip.
This is shooter, whatever it says.
If this was an ISIL-inspired lone wolf attack, it was just the kind authorities have been worried about.
Losers to lions.
It's the sort of young individual who is looking for something, a cause greater than themselves.
This ideology is winning.
And we don't have the counter-narrative out there.
There is a message out there that we're not getting out there.
It's an ideological war that we're in.
In this case, there were apparently few red flags.
Abdulaziz only prior run-in with police occurred in April.
He was arrested on a charge of drunk driving and was to appear in court later this month.
And there are reports out tonight from the Associated Press that back in 2003, Abdulaziz applied to work for a nuclear power plant in Ohio.
He was brought in temporarily while he did a background check.
The company says he failed that background check.
They're not indicating why that was.
This is really a national health crisis, what they're doing here on the news.
This is making people sick.
To think that this is true.
This is so crazy.
Here's the unanswered question, which is, again, the reporter's fallen down on the job.
And it's real obvious in this clip, but I've seen this discussed before, and no one brings this up.
If this guy is a big follower, or preoccupied, or has anything to do with Islam, and he wants to be a martyr, and he'll have all these virgins, or whatever his motives really were...
How is he a drinker?
Oh, I didn't realize that.
Of course.
Of course he's not a drinker.
He wouldn't be a drinker.
So why would he get busted for drunk driving?
He's bullcrap.
He's not even a...
This is nonsense.
He's not a Muslim fundamentalist if he's drunk driving.
I mean, who are we kidding with these reports?
Was he driving drunk and watching porn on his iPhone at the same time?
I don't know about the porn part, but he probably knew the looks of him.
Now, I caught an interview with one of his classmates, and this was Andrea Mitchell, who was asking the questions.
Who, of course, is a true elitist, married to...
Greenspan?
Greenspan.
Former chairman of the Fed.
And I loved how she was really trying to push this poor girl into a corner with the guns thing.
And the girl even goes, what are you saying?
And Andrea Mitchell tries it again.
Were guns a big part of activity, social or other activity?
Was what?
What?
What about guns?
Did he hunt?
Did he shoot?
I love this.
Oh, if you use a gun to hunt, then you're dangerous now.
Oh, it may be even more.
I mean, was that just part of small-town Tennessee activity?
That's right.
Hicks, rednecks.
Andrea, that's right.
Not your elites over there in New York City in your fancy Big Apple.
No, we rednecks here.
We hunt.
We hunt squirrels and we eat them.
That's right.
It's a part of our small-town Tennessee culture here.
Actually, he wasn't one of the guys that I ever heard about.
Get her off!
Wrong answer!
Get her off!
He wasn't really that kind of guy, but he also didn't really tell a lot of people about his personal life.
I don't think...
Very many people knew much about him.
Funny, funny note came through the transom.
This is...
We're just going to presume it's true.
I think it would come over the transom.
It's not through?
It's over the transom?
Yeah, it's not through the transom.
It's over the transom.
Khalif Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.
That's our Baghdadi man.
Our guy.
He has sent out a red dash alpha message in two parts to all...
I want you to read this.
Finally, somebody mentioned he's Chechenian.
Baghdadi?
Yeah.
Surprises me not.
Okay.
He sent out a note to all affiliates.
Affiliates?
This is going to run a little long.
We're running a little long today, everybody.
Here's what he said.
Less than ten minutes to go.
Okay?
And, no, he said...
We are very concerned about the videos that you are producing.
Let me see here.
Okay, we are installing limits on what you can do in your videos, your beheading videos, including showing full beheadings.
Please follow the format.
Simply limit the video to showing the slitting of the throat and then the severed head after, which is exactly what the bogus videos have always been.
If you look at any of the official quote-unquote beheading videos, you never see the head cut off.
It fades to black when the knife kind of goes, and then you see the photoshopped head on the guy's back later on.
So I think what's happening is Rita Katz or the Sight Intelligence Group, whoever, they're worried that these nut jobs, because of course they're real beheadings, but they're really gruesome and they're not produced well.
And they're creepy.
They don't speak to the imagination of people who have grown up with Hollywood version of death.
Right.
The idea is you want to frighten people.
You don't want to get them so upset that they want to kill you.
Yeah, that would be so wrong.
Yeah, that won't work.
So now he sent out the message, please keep to the format of not actually showing any beheading.
Perfect.
Please limit your graphic violence.
What kind of beheading guy is this?
This is bullcrap.
This is, you know, again, I was watching Max Keiser.
Oh, I haven't watched Max in a long time.
Did he have something good?
Actually quite funny, but he makes this comment.
He says, just out of the blue, he says, well, we all know that ISIS is run by the CIA, and the CIA is run by the Fed.
Good old Max.
Yeah, I buy it.
I'm in on that.
Now, with all of this happening, with ISIS in America, ladies and gentlemen, they are here, hashtag, in America, hashtag, soon, hashtag.
They're killing your soldiers.
They're killing your soldiers' families.
We are here to kill you, to kill you.
Wesley Clark had a very...
Now, Wesley Clark, was he at one point the commander of NATO? I think he was.
I think so, too.
I'll look it up.
Wesley Clark, very famous for being all in on the original plan with the what we call the Wes Clark seven to actually play that for a second.
This is after the Gulf War started.
Was this after Desert Storm, I think, started?
No, I'm sorry.
No, this was running for office.
Right, after 9-11.
And this was just before the Bush 2 war in Iraq.
And here is what he said happened.
So I came back to see him a few weeks later, and by that time we were bombing in Afghanistan.
I said, are we still going to war with Iraq?
And he said, oh, it's worse than that.
He said, he reached over on his desk, he picked up a piece of paper, and he said, I just got this down from upstairs, meeting the Secretary of Defense Office today, and he said, this is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, and finishing off Iran.
And we're getting pretty close to doing all of that.
We have all of them on the list, including Lebanon, which is now also in...
Yes, he was the Supreme Allied Commander of Europe for NATO. Starfleet Command.
So Wesley Clark has a theory, a theorem, I think almost more a recommendation, as to what we should be doing here in America with our potential ISIS terrorists...
And it really brings together a whole bunch of things.
Finally, we know what is going on.
Generally, a lot of people would say you reap what you sow.
So how do we fix self-radicalized lone wolves domestically?
I love wolves.
He said wolves.
Lone wolves, everybody.
Lone Wolf!
Lone Wolf!
So, how do we fix self-radicalized lone wolves domestically?
What a dick!
Lone Wolf!
Well, we've got to identify the people who are most likely to be radicalized.
We've got to cut this off at the beginning.
There are always a certain number of young people who are alienated.
They don't get a job, they lost a girlfriend, their family doesn't feel happy here.
I love this.
Wait a minute.
I don't have a job.
I lost my girlfriend.
My family doesn't.
I should go kill some people.
I should be a lone wolf now.
And we can watch the signs of that, and there are members of the community who will reach out to those people and bring them back in and encourage them to look at their blessings here.
But I do think, on a national policy level, we need to look at what self-radicalization means, because we are at war with this group of terrorists.
They do have an ideology.
In World War II, if someone supported Nazi Germany at the expense of the United States, we didn't say that was freedom of speech.
We put them in a camp.
They were prisoners of war.
So if these people are radicalized and they don't support the United States and they're disloyal to the United States as a matter of principle, fine, that's their right.
It's our right and our obligation to segregate them from the normal community for the duration of the conflict.
And I think we're going to have to increasingly get tough on this.
Not only in the United States, but our allied nations like Britain and Germany and France are going to have to look at their domestic law procedures.
FEMA camps!
Well, they gotta do something with those camps.
FEMA camps!
Now we finally know what the FEMA camps are for.
To lock up the lone wolves.
The lone wolves.
The other guy, if you remember my earlier clip where this guy was a sheriff or one of the law enforcement guys going on and on about, oh, we can't.
Actually, you're going to have to play that again because there's something he says there.
Which one is this?
The first one that says cooperation.
Hmm, cooperation.
Shooter social media.
Oh yeah, social media.
I'll tell you where to stop it.
Al-Qaeda or ISIS ideology.
You know exactly what those links are back to those organizations.
That is what we still have to figure out.
And ISIS has specifically been asking people to target members of the U.S. military, right?
That's right, and ISIS has been really much more successful at using social media and calling for Muslims globally to attack at home, not traveling to Afghanistan.
Okay, so you can stop it.
Now, this meme that's going, this is a meme that we've heard.
Hello, I'm calling on all affiliates.
The meme is, oh, these guys are geniuses at social media, and we don't know what we're doing, even though we invented it.
Yeah.
I'm getting a little tired of it, to be honest about it.
And this one guy, this same guy, he goes on to talk about how they're so good.
Their argument is so compelling that it turns people, and we have no counter-argument.
We have nothing that...
Here's your choices.
You go out and kill a cop, or...
Or you don't.
I mean, there's no, you know, and if you kill a cop, it's good because we said it is.
And the other side is we don't give a crap one way or the other.
We don't care.
It's just nonsense.
And a lot of this alienation that Wesley Clark talks about, and if you take it to the base logic, it's because the schools, I blame the education system.
We're really taught in a lot of ways to disrespect our own country.
Oh, continuously.
We suck.
We stink.
We're racist.
We hate gays.
Koch brothers.
We hate gays.
We're racist.
Koch brothers!
We suck.
We're behind all the countries in education.
We're losers.
We're losers.
We shouldn't do this.
We shouldn't do that.
So the kid comes out, he can't get a job, loses his girlfriend, as this guy says, which is, you know, that happens to everybody, of course.
It doesn't mean you have to go kill people.
And they don't see that there's any benefits Attributed to their environment.
All they see is, well, it's because their environment, they lost their growth.
Things aren't bad enough in this crummy country that we're taught to hate.
Shitty, shitty country.
Let's take a look at, oh, and I lost my girlfriend, probably because of this crummy country.
And then I lost my job because this crappy country can't get me work.
By the way, there's an argument to be had for that part of it, but that's another story.
Right.
And it's, they say, well, let me go kill a few Marines.
That'll show up.
That'll fix it.
Yeah.
This is a problem that's a little deeper.
Well, I'm seeing some evidence of really how ISIS, ISIL, IS, advertising, whatever you want to call it, plays out.
And actually, it's something that I caught last week.
Based on the ISIS, of course, attack in Tunisia, the president issued a memorandum And I'm starting to see, you know, whereas we had Al-Qaeda.
Al-Qaeda, the brand, got tired.
It was too tied to Bin Laden.
You know, there were too many guys that were aging.
It didn't look scary.
We really needed to have a new boogeyman.
And ISIS, ISIL, which, you know, we haven't even really branded it properly.
It works so well, you just confuse everybody with even what it's called.
I think it took off too fast.
Well, now it's being implemented, using ISIS, ISIL, IS to sell war stuff and to get people all jacked up.
So here's the memorandum for the Secretary of State.
Subject, designation of the Republic of Tunisia as a major non-NATO ally.
And the president says, What this means, because I had to look it up.
You see, here we go.
This is a major non-NATO ally.
Here's the explanation of what that means.
And I'm just a disc jockey.
It's not that hard to look this stuff up.
Major non-NATO allies defined in Section 644, the Foreign Assistance Act, means a country that is designated in accordance with Section 517, that's the one the President mentioned, of the Foreign Assistance Act in 1961.
There's a major non-NATO ally for purposes of the Foreign Assistance Act and the Arms Control Act.
The following countries are designated as major non-NATO allies.
Then you get a couple of them, of which Tunisia was not one.
And the reason why, there's a cap on what we can send to countries unless they're on this list.
And the cap is $60 million, which of course is shit.
$60 million, that's shit.
It's completely nothing.
It's nothing.
So in order to qualify for assistance above and beyond the $60 million, that's why you have to be designated a major non-NATO ally.
And so we send in some goons, shoot up a couple of Brits.
They're expendable.
Have you ever seen a Brit on the beach?
Come on.
You're blinded by him.
That's right!
The guy probably had to wear night vision goggles.
No, actually that would blind him.
So, you know, we get an attack and then all of a sudden we're selling stuff to Tunisia.
We're this little switcheroo of the law.
Hey, you gotta sell, sell, sell.
Yeah, and that's really what it comes down to.
You know, NATO, all the NATO countries have to be at their 2%, 2% of GDP that they're spending.
Now the Saudis arrested 431 ISIS suspects.
Yeah, I'll bet.
The last thing they want is to have some kind of attack on their turf.
And then we come in, don't worry, we'll take care of it.
Team Obama, Team America here.
So, it's becoming quite the thing.
It's pretty funny.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know if it's funny.
Well, it's not funny that these guys get killed just as collateral damage.
It's terrible.
Right, right.
Of course, there was somebody that pointed this out.
Of course, I think it was a right-wing talk show guy who first pointed out, he says, you've got a Marine recruiting office, a bunch of Marines in there, and they're forbidden to wear firearms.
I mean, half of these events that have taken place, there's an element of forbidden to wear firearms to protect yourself.
And with the word out, oh God, we got high alert.
High alert, everybody.
When did that actually start?
Didn't that start during this...
You'd think that we would arm these guys who were at places that would be obvious targets.
When did that start?
I don't know.
When did the gun-free zones...
Gun-free zones, no guns on an army base.
Was that after the...
Even though they're known targets.
Was that after the Fort Hood shooting?
No, the Fort Hood shooting was a no-fire thing.
Let's see.
And people were bitching about it then, and you'd think by now, I mean, if the guy's a Marine veteran of 15 years and he's been in a recruiting office, he knows how to handle a firearm he can wear when they had the security guards at his joint.
They've got guns.
I don't know if they've got bullets, but they've got guns.
So, you know, it's just beyond me.
This happened during the Clinton era?
Probably.
With army regulations.
There's an army regulation, quote, forbidding military personnel from carrying their personal firearms on base.
So this happened a long time ago.
And it's not a law, it's an army regulation.
It was probably in all the armed services.
It came down from Congress or the Secretary of Defense at some point.
Yeah.
We can't have guns.
Wait a minute.
You're a soldier trained.
Do they think that everybody that they've trained is trigger happy?
They did such a crappy job of training?
Is that what they're saying?
I don't understand.
That's what the message is to me.
Well, we've sent them through basic training and we do such a crappy job that we can't trust them with a gun.
In Texas, I can carry a revolver on my belt into Whole Foods.
Under the open carry law.
When was the last time somebody shot up a Whole Foods?
A place that deserves to be shot up.
Amen.
Fist bump.
Yeah.
Please, shoot some people at Whole Foods.
Meanwhile, John McCain is, although he did come out, there was some stuff going on with Trump, which you can talk about, but he is really working on this, let's see, it's a Senate bill.
It is 1735, I believe, and it changes the acquisition provision of Let me see.
Here it is.
So you take it out of this committee and you give it to the buyers directly.
What?
Yeah.
So, major acquisition...
The sellers are giving it to the sellers?
No.
What is the acquisition operation?
Yeah.
So, currently, it's at the Office of Undersecretary of Defense for Acquisition Technology and Logistics, which I think has committee, and that's a whole process.
Right.
It has oversight.
Yeah.
And now they're sending it to the Military Service Acquisition Executives.
Right.
Which has no oversight.
I think it has zero oversight.
And we're talking about a Defense Department that can't be audited.
Even though the new guy coming in, the Marine that's going to take over the Joint Chiefs of Staff, he says, auditing is priority one.
Yeah, right.
We're still waiting for the Pentagon audit.
It's not going to happen.
They can't do it.
There's too many.
Was it not September 10th?
Here's the best analogy.
You've got a terabyte drive, and you've been loading stuff on it for the last 10 years.
Now you have to go through the terabyte drive and take all the duplicate files out by hand.
You think that's even possible?
No.
You'll recall September 10, 2001, I believe it was Rumsfeld who said, yeah, we're missing $2 trillion.
We can't really find it.
Right, and then there was 9-11 the next day.
Yeah, and all the records were crushed in Building 7.
How coincidence.
What a coincidence.
So McCain's on that.
I wouldn't mind talking about the Donald Trump-McCain fracas.
I wish I had a clip of it.
Well, you see, he was in an interview.
Here's how it started.
McCain actually started in an interview making real trouble, and he said, let me see, I have a quote here.
And I wish he had said...
I wish we had this on audio.
Trump...
Yeah, because these media guys, we should point out to everyone, that these media reports are so twisted.
They love to take stuff out of context and make a story out of it.
Well, the thing is, McCain actually started this.
He actually...
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised.
He's a troublemaker.
He actually started...
He said...
Donald Trump's comments on immigration have, quote, fired up the crazies in the Republican Party.
Oh, actually, this sounds like...
There is audio, apparently.
Let me see.
I just found something that just came in.
If I download this real quick...
Hold on.
We might be able to play this.
Ooh, nice.
Hold on a sec, John.
It just came in.
I was looking for this.
Okay.
Hot off the wires!
Here we go.
What he did was that he fired up the...
Crazies.
The crazies.
Which means, you know, religious people.
You know, it's an insult.
Yeah.
You fired up the crazies.
Second Amendment folks.
Republicans.
So you're all crazy.
And then, and I will say...
That what Donald Trump came back and said was interesting.
He said, look, you know, John McCain is a douchebag.
I'm paraphrasing because that would have been really funny if he had said that.
And he said, you know, John McCain, not necessarily a hero like other soldiers.
And when you look into McCain, the war hero, he was held hostage, prisoner of war for I think five or six years.
I believe he was last in his class or close to it.
But he has admitted himself that he told his captors, if you take me to hospital right now, I'll give you military information.
He's on record as saying this.
I don't know this.
Yeah, oh yeah.
But I like to hear it.
I have a couple of links in the show notes.
Some reputable, like The Guardian.
I'll read those later.
Yeah.
Now, whether he did that or not, I don't know.
But he's on record as saying that.
What all of this brings to the forefront is...
Well, first of all, here's Trump.
I have him.
He said something funny.
He's always saying something funny that I like about...
This is really...
This is a little off-topic here.
I'm talking about money...
That he has given to politicians.
He's supported Hillary Clinton in the past when she was running for senator.
And he lays it out in such an eloquent way.
I've been dealing with politicians all my life.
I deal with politicians on both sides.
In fact, I get criticized because I give to Democrats, I give to Republicans, I give millions to each.
You kind of dismiss them all as losers.
I think politicians are all talk, no action.
Nobody knows politicians better than I do.
I give a lot of money to Democrats, as a business person, okay?
For instance, I give it to everybody.
Everybody loves me.
You know?
They all love me.
I get criticized for that.
They say, oh, you gave money.
You know, I'm a businessman.
I owe it to him.
I owe it to my family.
I owe it to my company, my employees.
I run a great company.
You know, I've built a great company.
I have some of the greatest real estate assets.
Forget this.
I have some of the greatest real estate assets in the world.
And, you know, I get along with everybody.
You have to be able to do that if you're president.
And you have to be able to get along with Congress.
Right.
He's saying a lot of things that make sense.
And, of course, if you follow the Facebooks, which I do, you know, it's just one.
I have a lot of friends.
I mean, Facebook friends.
But people I know in real life from MTV back in the day.
And you know who's all in on this stuff.
And the disparaging comments they're making about Trump is it's, you know, it shows that they're, I guess, really afraid of him.
We just have to take this guy down, just call him out as a dick and a douchebag and a racist and a hater and anything they can.
Worse, a Republican.
And so these are, of course, the people who are all in on Bernie.
Bernie Sanders.
Oh, Bernie's a phenomenon.
I told you.
Yeah, I have a couple of emails that I'd like to read.
The first one here from, let's see, XYZ. Adam, I'm part of the lazy millennial generation looking for a handout, suckling the teat when the state offers one to me.
I'm a worthless, brainwashed iPhone zombie scum.
In many ways, I'm Bernie Sanders' target audience.
The first and last time I voted was 2008.
I felt like such an idiot for doing it.
All of us were taken for saps, and that was humiliating.
You already know who I voted for.
This is true, by the way.
The millennials do feel that Obama...
They got gypped, yeah.
During Occupy Wall Street, I became an anarchist.
Now, I'm not sure what I am now, since every ideology feels like bullcrap.
There's exceptions for everything.
Ah, good.
He's getting a clue.
I had no intention of voting in 2016.
I was going to watch these a-holes tear each other to pieces on television.
I hate Hillary Clinton.
I hate politicians in general.
I don't hate Bernie Sanders, though.
I really like him.
him.
So now I'm not only voting, I'm volunteering.
The fact that this guy has been shat on and marginalized and an independent for decades gives him credibility.
I personally would prefer to see billionaires face the guillotine, but I'll settle for taxing them when they beg for mercy, then taxing them again for twice as much.
He promises that and I have little doubt that he'll follow through.
Free college, health care, and a living wage sounds great, too.
Oh, yeah, and a muzzle on asshole cops.
Did I mention I hate cops?
This is how the millennials think.
They've been brought up this way.
Only one small generation, my friends, where my mom told me, if you're in trouble, you need help, always find a cop.
Now the millennial has been raised to hate cops, and in some cases with good reason, but certainly not across the board.
His strategy clearly involves torches and pitchforks at the end of the day.
He knows they're going to do everything they can to stop him.
His power is going to come from the bottom up.
People power, possibly riot power.
This guy is dangerous.
I wouldn't rule out riots.
I remember when Obama brought in every Wall Street executive to the White House and said, You know, we're the only thing standing between you and the pitchforks, right?
Then immediately began grinding down the teeth of that question to a nub.
What a pussy.
He should have made real threats, waited one day for him to cooperate, and then started taking scalps.
Bottom line here is that I'd like to live in a country where people don't feel like shit all the time.
I'm tired of people being scared by fascist propaganda, I'm tired of listening to my friends complaining about working their asses off, and still barely scraping by.
Do I think Bernie will be the answer to our ills?
Hell no.
We have to do this ourselves.
It's the idea of what he stands for.
That's what we're voting for.
It's a coin toss, really, whether it'll hurt or help the cause for him to be assassinated by some random yabbo.
You know there are people out there who are seriously considering it if he gets anywhere close to nomination.
Anyway, this is a way moodier letter than I expected.
I'm just so sick of being cynical of everything.
But hey, that's millennials for you.
Anyway, don't be surprised if we start throwing rocks.
Hail Apple!
Love your show.
XYZ. And then Bernie was at...
He spoke at an event.
What was this?
It was an event that was being disrupted continuously by the Black Lives Matter people.
And Bernie is a moron.
I didn't record all of this stuff where he said, I was told I would get to 14 minutes to talk and I can go away.
He was completely moronic about it.
But his opening line...
His opening line even spoke to me.
Thank you very much for inviting me.
Thank you.
We've got some serious things to talk about.
We don't have a whole lot of time, so what I'd like to do is just chat for a while, stop, and we're going to do a little bit of a discussion.
Here's the serious issue.
We live in a nation In which, to a significant degree, media is controlled by large multinational corporations.
We live in a nation in which 95% of talk radio is right-wing, including in areas where Republicans have almost no support.
We live in a nation in which conservative Republicans own their own television network.
I guess he's talking about Fox, which, as we know, is owned by the Democrats.
But, okay, Bernie, well, we understand the facade.
The work that many of you do in terms of blogging and on the Internet is extraordinarily important because you are presenting an analysis of what goes on in America and a vision of where we should go that corporate media does not present.
And I thank you very much for that.
He's talking about us, John.
We provide the analysis.
Yeah, I don't think he knows who we are.
Well, you know, it would be very important if the No Agenda show endorsed him.
But we will not make our endorsements known until we're a little bit closer.
Well, I won't endorse him.
Another email from Jimson.
Hey!
John C. Dvorak is on to something.
I'm 24 and very Democrat, and every Democrat I know under the age of 35 is all in on Bernie.
They quote him, discuss his events, tune in to watch him on YouTube, uploads of Bill Maher.
Liz Warren was talked about briefly, but they've all gone pro-Bernie lately.
They hate Hillary Clinton.
There's that same recurring theme.
And riff against her along with the conservatives whenever they can.
The big sticking point seems to be that she is a known liar to my age group because we all remember her social views changing throughout our lives.
Millennials are particularly irked by her views on gays.
To most of us, the gay issue isn't an issue, so Hillary being on both sides of it, and Obama, but they're less likely to throw him under the bus, is blatantly dishonest and exploitative.
Another millennial perspective, most people I talk to joke about moving to Canada if the race goes Bush against Clinton.
Okay, then there's just some other stuff.
Well, let's hope my thesis is correct for these folks.
Well, I have a few clips of your thesis.
That would be Elizabeth Warren.
Right.
And she spoke at the...
And Hillary's just getting a huge war chest together so she can give it to Warren.
Yep.
So Warren will stay off the Clinton Foundation's back for the duration.
So Elizabeth Warren spoke at the 2015 Netroots Nation...
Which happened, I guess, just this past week.
Did you see her speech?
No.
Okay, I did.
And I watched the whole thing.
I will add to my no with, I've seen her speech, but not that one.
They're all the same.
But go on.
Right.
And this is, without a doubt, this is a presidential speech.
But here's what, well, there's a lot of things that bother me about her.
One of them is she believes so in her superstar status.
She loves it.
She comes on stage and she's like, woo!
She just loves it.
She's president already.
Oh, and then she's talking about all the changes in America.
Listen to this.
This is family.
What?
I said she's going to be insufferable.
She already is.
Oh, she is so annoying.
So annoying.
But let's just listen to what she thinks about how great we're doing.
Just listen to it, and I'll interrupt where appropriate.
This is family.
This is family.
So good morning, Netroots Nation.
This is family.
This is family.
This is a disgusting operation.
Go on.
Why is it a disgusting operation?
Because it just, it oozes this kind of faux liberal creepiness that just bugs me to no end.
Agreed.
It just bothers me.
I agree.
No, I agree.
I agree.
It's creepy.
Creepy.
Who runs that outfit?
Have we ever looked into that?
That's some, that's a good question.
While you're playing this, I'll look.
Good morning.
Woo!
Good morning.
You know, I was getting ready this morning and it occurred to me, it has been exactly five years since my first Netroots Nation.
Golly, five years.
Golly, golly, five years.
Who gives a crap?
Then it's so in the golly.
And everyone's like, okay.
So much change.
So much change, John.
What do you think the change is in our country?
What has our president, our democratic president brought?
What change has he brought?
Terrorism.
Terrorism to Texas.
So much progress.
So much progress.
We have a new consumer agency that has forced banks to return more than $10 billion directly to people they cheated.
Did you get any of that money?
This is bullcrap.
They gave it to the government.
Yeah, and they gave it to the states and they spent it on, you know, hookers and whatever they spent.
I didn't get any of that.
Yeah!
Because that's what she did, right?
Yeah!
I fucking rock, bitches!
Equal marriage in every state in the union.
Woo!
Woo!
Okay, hold on a second.
Why do you have to do a gay yell?
That's uncalled for.
That just shows you how phony she is.
Equal marriage.
Woo!
Woo!
Equal marriage in every state in the union.
Woo!
That's her.
Woo!
Oh, God.
It's insane.
She's so...
Oh, man.
I'm telling you, the people happiest...
At that point, they would use that against her.
Well, they're going to use something like a Howard Dean whoop.
Howard Dean, yeah.
I can probably ISO it and see if we can use it.
But it's so...
It's piece and parcel.
It goes right along with...
Well, the people happiest about equality and marriage at the federal level in the United States, they're not gay.
The people who are the happiest and who whoop it up all the time, they're not gay.
Free state in the union.
Woo!
Fuckhead.
Proof positive that in the end, love wins.
All right.
No, excuse me.
No, no, no.
You're all wrong.
Once you get married, once you sign that piece of paper, that's when the love goes out the door, Elizabeth.
I speak from experience.
Love loses.
Love loses.
Comprehensive health care reform all across this country.
We're getting there.
We're getting there.
It sucks, and the premiums are going up, but we're getting there.
It's going up and going up.
Medicaid is going to kill all the states, but okay, yeah, we're getting there.
What else?
What other great achievements do we have, John?
We've mentioned...
High-speed rail.
Confederate flags coming down.
Confederate change, my friends.
Change is upon us.
Oh, and here's one.
This is a laundry list of all the stereotype...
Democrat progressive wins.
Oh, her whole speech is America is progressive.
I'm a progressive.
America is progressive.
And by the way, Netroots is like major, I mean, let me, the board of directors, the whole board of directors is like, for example, executive director of progressive Congress, Darcy Berner, who's on the board.
She's also the executive director of progressive congress.org.
And she's the honorary chair of the more and better Democrats PAC.
Yeah.
Council for a livable world's peace PAC.
Oh yeah, by the way, I would like to mention, if you look at Elizabeth Warren's campaign, we'll talk about it in a minute, who was financing her campaign, or just financing her in general.
But let's find us.
We have, what do we have?
Money You Didn't Get, $10 billion, which went to the states, and the states spent it however they wanted.
Yeah, you didn't get a nickel to that.
We had gay...
Or a benefit.
Gay marriage.
Woo!
Then we had Confederate Flag...
Then we had, well, healthcare, kind of getting there, working on it.
Don't talk too much about that.
Confederate flag, and then...
That guy who was senator from Massachusetts five years ago now sends around shirtless pictures of himself and sells diet pills.
Seriously.
Alex Jones was senator from Massachusetts?
No.
I'm confused.
Look it up.
It's real.
Look it up.
It's real.
Okay.
Okay.
That's a lot of change.
Wow.
Especially.
Yeah, that's wow.
We are on change point tip.
Now she does something which...
I'm happy she did it.
Because now she's opened herself up for all kinds of ridicule.
And it's...
You know, I have always been a supporter of the target of...
Not for her politics, but for her...
Just as a human being.
Anyone who wants to run for public office deserves some credit.
And she does something so low...
I'm happy she did it because now she herself is open to ridicule.
And of course, I will be happy to ridicule her, her personal traits, the way she looks, the way she walks, the way she talks, everything because of this one clip.
Along with raising the minimum wage, Social Security, climate change, marriage equality, Wall Street reform.
It was a very long list.
But if you weren't with us in Detroit, don't worry.
Sarah Palin did a fascinating line-by-line analysis of the whole thing on YouTube.
Deep.
Because she's stupid!
She's stupid!
Well, I would like to have something a little more solid than that.
Well, let's talk about Donald Trump then.
Let's see what she says about him.
What do you think she has to say about Donald Trump?
He's an idiot.
The Democrat main meme is he's a clown.
Oh, okay.
And it sure as heck shouldn't take poll numbers to unite us in our determination to build a future for all of our children.
That's right.
Now look, House Republicans may still want to fly the Confederate flag, and Republican leaders make power in the shadow of Donald Trump.
I think she just said he's a racist.
I think that's pretty much what she just said.
I would like to have Netroots explain why they have all white faces on their board of directors.
But the American people understand that black lives matter, and America is not a country that stands for racism, bigotry, or hatred.
Yes!
I reiterate.
Yeah.
Where's the black people on your board?
Where's the black people on your board?
Or brown people, or yellow people, or green people, or anything.
Definitely no Asians.
Well, yeah.
I'm just going to say, you're right.
There's nothing but...
Woo!
Yep.
I rock.
I kick ass.
All right.
And then the final one here.
This was a...
I didn't get the...
She was much...
She did a lot more than the 2014 speech she did.
In fact, I actually recorded a whole bunch of clips.
First was from the 2014 speech.
I couldn't believe my...
Oh, by the way, I just looked at the staff in Netroots.
Not a blackface.
Not a blackface.
No Asians.
Yeah.
Racist group.
Yeah, totally.
Racist.
Just like Hollywood.
The Academy Awards.
No black people.
A little sexist, too.
They got like, you know, six women and three men, I think.
Oh, there you go.
The women, they don't like the Schwarzes, you know?
When the insiders are so far out of sync with the American people, how can they keep calling the shots?
How do they keep the game rigged?
I'll tell you.
A big part of it is money.
You said it right.
Money.
Money.
Money for campaigns.
Money for PACs.
But money for so much more.
Money to hire armies of lobbyists and lawyers.
Money for PR firms and trade associations to sell a message.
Money for think tanks to give the cover of respectability for genuinely ugly ideas.
Money that flows like a river through Washington.
Money that rushes everywhere, sweeping along as much as it can and threatening to drown anything or anyone that gets in its way.
Yeah, let's take a look at who's been sending money to her, according to OpenSecrets.org.
Harvard University, of course, right up there because she's so outspoken about federal loans, student loans.
So, of course, they want to get in on a good side and make sure that she does support loans.
MIT, of course, Boston University.
She's got all of the top universities here.
Then she has Massachusetts General Hospital, the University of California.
Oh, and then Brown Rudnick.
University of California again.
They gave a million dollars to Obama.
They call me up all the time.
And they stopped calling the last time they called, which was a while ago.
I said, I would be glad to give you money to support the Alumni Association, whoever it was, somebody.
Usually a freshman girl.
But if you can give Obama $1 million for why, you don't need my money.
And the girl says...
They don't.
No, they don't.
They obviously don't need my $10 or whatever they were looking for.
And so the girl says to me, yeah, I know what you mean.
She hangs up and never had cold sense.
Well, what I thought was interesting is you look at in her top ten of donors, we have Brown Rudnick, Ropes and Gray, and Thornton Noms.
These are three of the most successful and biggest antitrust law firms that defend banks.
When it comes to antitrust and other shenanigans.
So they are supporting her directly.
She should rescind this.
She should send the money back.
She should.
And she doesn't.
No one ever looks into this stuff.
Also, Mintz Levin.
What else do we have here?
Berger Montauk, Brigham and McCutcheon.
These are all lobbyists.
She's taking money from lobbyists.
She's just a shill.
But what's interesting, if you took Warren and Sanders together, together with their message, they are pretty much George Carlin.
Ha ha ha.
I have the clip from George Carlin where he talks about the game is rigged, about the money.
You want to hear it?
Yeah!
There's a reason for this.
There's a reason education sucks, and it's the same reason that it will never, ever, ever be fixed.
It's never going to get any better.
Don't look for it.
Be happy with what you got.
Because the owners of this country don't want that.
I'm talking about the real owners now.
The real owners.
The big Take wealthy business interests to control things and make all the important decisions.
Forget the politicians.
The politicians are put there to give you the idea that you have freedom of choice.
You don't.
You have no choice.
You have owners.
They own you.
They own everything.
They own all the important land.
They own and control the corporations.
They've long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses, the city halls.
They got the judges in their back pockets.
And they own all the big media companies, so they control just about all of the news and information you get to hear.
They got you by the balls.
They spend billions of dollars every year lobbying.
Lobbying.
To get what they want.
Well, we know what they want.
They want more for themselves and less for everybody else.
But I'll tell you what they don't want.
They don't want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking.
They don't want well-informed, well-educated people capable of critical thinking.
They're not interested in that.
That doesn't help them.
That's against their interest.
That's great.
They don't want people who are smart enough to sit around the kitchen table and figure out how badly they're getting fucked by a system that threw the hoverboard 30 fucking years ago.
They don't want that.
You know what they want?
They want obedient workers.
Obedient workers.
People who are just smart enough to run the machines and do the paperwork and just dumb enough to passively accept all these increasingly shittier jobs with the lower pay, the longer hours, the reduced benefits, the end of overtime, and the vanishing pension that disappears the minute you go to collect it.
And now they're coming for your social security money.
They want your fucking retirement money.
They want it back.
So they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street.
And you know something?
They'll get it.
They'll get it all from you, sooner or later.
Because they own this fucking place.
It's a big club.
And you ain't in it.
You and I are not in the big club.
By the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe.
All day long, beating you over the head in their media, telling you what to believe, what to think, and what to buy.
The table is tilted, folks.
The game is rigged.
And nobody seems to notice.
Nobody seems to care.
Good, honest, hard-working people.
White collar, blue collar, it doesn't matter what color shirt you have on.
Good, honest, hard-working people continue.
These are people of modest means.
Continue to elect...
These rich cocksuckers who don't give a fuck about them.
They don't give a fuck about you.
They don't give a fuck about you.
They don't care about you.
At all.
You know?
And nobody seems to notice.
Nobody seems to care.
That's what the owners count on.
The fact that Americans will probably remain willfully ignorant of the big red, white, and blue dick that's being jammed up their assholes every day.
Because the owners of this country know the truth.
It's called the American dream.
Because you have to be asleep to believe it.
Alright.
Yeah, that's pretty much what they're going to pitch.
Yeah.
They're both phonies.
Phony balonies.
Phony balonies, both of them.
Big phony balonies, yeah.
I got a letter.
This is an interesting one.
This is an anonymous donor that sent a check.
It says, here's another donation, it's a hundred bucks.
Reflecting upon the Rachel Dolezal, do you remember her?
Oh yes, the black woman, the white black woman.
White black woman's story.
Which went away overnight, that story just disintegrated.
White overnight.
This is off the wall, and when I read it, I said, ah, it's a good one.
I believe that this was publicized to...
To lay the groundwork for Elizabeth Warren's presidential campaign.
It was to introduce the concept of the transracial person to the American public.
Elizabeth Warren's an Indian.
We all remember Warren's dubious claim of being a native of America.
Pocahontas, Pocahontas Warren.
Pocahontas, which we've dropped.
You should pick that back up.
My theory is that this, and he goes on with this, saying this is just a test run.
That's why he got so much publicity, because in most instances, who cares?
Right, right.
You know, some woman wearing a little too much makeup.
And yeah, that sounds like a good one.
This all leads up to Elizabeth Warren.
I agree.
I agree.
And they had signs, professional signs that said, run, Liz, run.
And they had chanting going on.
Yeah, that's the run, Liz, run.
Run, Liz, run.
Run, Liz, run.
Right.
And she's going to be a disaster.
She'll be the worst president ever.
And it will be right in the throes of the economic downturn.
She won't know what to do about it.
She's going to just, you know, try all these socials.
Now, Bernie is an independent, correct?
Yes, but he's running as a Democrat.
Oh, could we not have a Warren Sanders ticket?
No, she's a Democrat.
And what is he?
A Democrat.
Right, so couldn't they, couldn't...
Oh, you mean Sanders be a VP, exactly.
Well, she would have to be the president, because there's no way, no woman anymore is going to run for vice president.
And so she'd be the president, and he'd be the vice president.
That'd actually be a...
I don't know what else she could pick.
Who else would she pick for vice president?
Joe?
Joe?
No, the bosses will come in.
The bosses of the Democrat Party and the CIA, they'll come in there and they'll have a meeting with them and say, look, you can't run.
You can't run with this guy's vice president.
We need to get a little more variety in here.
And so they're going to make her pick some, I don't know, probably a Latino from New Mexico.
Oh, right.
How about, no, how about one of the Castro brothers from Texas?
Oh, those guys are great.
Yeah, one of those guys.
That'd be perfect.
And I think one of them's already been kind of pre-vetted as a potential VP, hasn't he?
Yeah.
Raul, I think.
Raul.
Raul!
Yeah, that would be a good ticket.
That would be a good one.
That'd be good.
Whatever the Republicans put up, they're not going to win, so it doesn't make any difference.
I'm happy Donald Trump is still in the race.
He's still on the stage.
Surprisingly, he's the head in the polls now, and everyone's predicting, oh, well, you know, it's because...
I read a really funny article describing him as being a media darling, and it's only a media bump that he's got these high numbers as the most popular, the highest poll numbers.
He knows how to do it.
But this guy claims it's just the media.
Once the media gets tired of him, which they never will, that's the joke of it, but once they get tired of him, his numbers will fall and fall and fall.
He's at his peak.
The guy from the New York Times claims he's at his peak right now.
Okay.
I don't think so.
I don't think so either.
I think he's just getting started.
Well, I love listening to him.
I love watching him.
I think it's hilarious.
Yeah, people, if they don't like Trump, they don't have a sense of humor.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
He's a clown.
You recall the president was, he sang Amazing Grace at the AME church?
Yes.
Yeah, they'll have it here.
That grace.
I think we have a little clip.
If we can tap that grace, everything can change.
Amazing Grace.
Amazing Grace.
Sing it, brother.
Amazing Grace.
Yeah, I hear that.
Sing great.
All right.
Valerie Jarrett was at the Aspen Institute, and she spoke about this.
Now, you'll recall that the way I deconstructed this, this was set up way in advance.
They flubbed it because he started talking about Amazing Grace, and the band started playing, and he didn't sing.
The whole thing was...
The cue was off.
The cue was off.
This was all pre-planned.
He knew exactly what he was going to do.
And here is Valerie Jarrett, the true president of the United States, Confirming what I said.
So there's a little history about the president and singing.
The first time he sang, those of you might remember, he came out and he sang a little Al Green, and it went over amazingly.
I think people didn't know he had such a good voice.
Well, I will confess to you that I was the voice backstage when he was being egged on by the electrical engineers who were doing the sound work for the show.
Does she mean during rehearsals or something like that?
Probably, right?
Go on, Mr.
President!
Sing, sing!
And I said, don't sing!
Don't sing!
Please, whatever you do, don't sing!
And of course he sang.
And it went over very well.
So as we were on our way in the helicopter...
I love it.
We were on our way in a helicopter, because I sit in a helicopter.
To Andrews, the morning of the service, we were talking about the speech, and the First Lady hadn't read the speech yet, and so he said, when I get to the second part of referring to Amazing Grace, I think I might sing.
So that's where the miscue came from.
It was well known he was going to sing in the second part, and then somehow someone cued the band incorrectly.
And he looked at me like, don't say, don't sing, because you saw what happened last time you said that.
And so I said, hmm.
And so the First Lady said, why on earth would that fit in?
And so he started to explain, and he said, I don't know whether I'm going to do it, but I just wanted to warn you to...
That I might sing.
And he said, we'll see how it feels at the time.
And from the first time he started to speak, the church was clearly with him.
And there was a lot of, yeah, you take your time, Mr.
President.
Yeah, that's right, and slow down, and I feel you, and all the things that you get in a black church.
And so he knew they were with him.
And so those of you who watched it, you probably saw that he paused for a minute right before he sang.
So later I said to him, were you thinking about whether or not to sing?
He said, oh no, I knew I was going to sing.
I was just trying to figure out which key to sing in.
The Long Lake Mac Daddy!
That's right.
So full of themselves there.
So full of themselves.
Aspen Institute.
There's one for you.
Alright.
That's where Walter Isaacson, that's the operation he runs.
While writing these huge books constantly.
How does he do it?
I don't know.
People got time.
Sorry?
I said people got time.
They got time to do all this.
They have more hours in the day than I do.
No kidding.
No kidding.
Probably staffs at Langley help.
We need a staff at Langley.
We can get a lot more work done.
A lot of people wrote in about our Caitlyn Jenner theorem.
Oh, yeah.
That we believe this is bogus and it's just being set up.
It's part of it.
Manipulating the media and the public.
Check this out.
From Radar Online...
Regarding the ESPN Awards, I'll read this verbatim.
ESPN has come under fire for awarding Caitlyn Jenner the prestigious Arthur Ashe Courage Award at the ESPY's Wednesday night.
But Radar Online has learned it wasn't initially their idea.
According to an insider, Jenner's reps approached the network, that would be Kris Jenner, suggesting she receive the award and offering PR plugs in her upcoming docuseries in return.
Now, who owns ESPN, John?
Disney.
Who owns...
Okay, what else does Disney own?
ABC. And where do we know ABC from?
Who works at ABC? One of the operatives from the Obama administration.
How about Diane Sawyer?
So this whole thing was a whole setup.
They said, we'll give you...
ABC, Disney, we'll give you everything.
We'll give the exclusive to Diane Sawyer, but then we want the award from the ESPYs.
This is brilliant.
This is what goes on constantly.
The public should be aware of this.
Thank you for mentioning it.
Yeah, it's a scam.
They gave the whole thing to Disney.
Yeah, Disney's behind the whole thing.
They probably haven't.
He has to probably, as a quid pro quo, I'm sure he's going to...
Because this is really...
It's hard to say.
I mean, the ESPYs did get a lot of attention.
And it was run.
Instead of normally, it gets run on ESPN. But now it was on ABC Network.
Of course.
So it got big play.
Because they wanted to get...
I couldn't watch it.
It was so boring.
And then I was watching this other thing.
I don't know if I mentioned this, but this guy was...
What show was this?
He was either on...
No, he was on Olbermann.
One of his buddies is a writer, used to be a writer on...
And Olbermann's been fired.
Which, you know, he doesn't...
What, from ESPN? Yeah, he works for ESPN, but they got him buried on ESPN, too, and he couldn't get any ratings, and so you have to really go out of your way to find him.
But he has his friends on, and they shoot to shit all the time.
And this guy comes on who's, I guess, one of the writers for Letterman for a long time, and he did a lot of freelance work for the networks, and he used to write for the ESPYs until 1999.
And apparently the ESPYs, which were just a minor thing, they were no big deal.
They always had these comedy writers, and the show apparently was hilarious.
Comedy writers.
Yeah.
He said, and then all of a sudden in 1999 or 2000, especially when Will Ferrell came on and did a bunch of material, and it was always about ribbing the athletes, which are people that could deserve a good...
A good ribbing.
Yes, a good ribbing.
The powers that be at Disney decided, you know, we're tired of ridiculing the athletes.
We have no more comedy.
And since 2000, they've just been a serious show.
And if you watch it, it's boring.
It's a terrible show.
Anyway, there's a little anecdote there for you out there that wonders what's going on behind the scenes.
Your turn.
Oh, well, I had something I just wanted to discuss.
I was reading an article about Uber.
Last night.
And, you know, how, of course, like it, hate it, whatever the case, the taxi business was a crappy-ass, shitty business that sucked balls around the world, and it's been completely disrupted by actually a pretty simple concept.
And can I throw an anecdote in?
Mm-hmm.
My wife was in town for my daughter's birthday.
We were hanging out.
She went to...
After dinner, we all went to dinner.
And then...
Jay and my son, JC, he works in the city in San Francisco and he knows all the bars.
So he's going to take Jay and everybody out bar hopping for a while.
So I decide, no, it was the night before the show.
No, you have a show to do.
You cannot participate.
I have to go home.
I'm not going to go out drinking.
So I went home and Mimi had set it up so she didn't have to worry about driving.
So she took Uber back.
Yeah.
And all she did was rave about Uber.
Oh, this is so much better.
It's not puke.
Then she tells me stories about when she was in San Francisco.
Oh, you can puke cars and shit.
And she says one time she was in the city and her friend, she says, there's a floor sticking.
She looks down.
She's standing in puke.
Nice.
And the cab driver says, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.
He didn't care.
Right.
That's the premise.
Exactly.
Now let's take Uber, and I'm just going to tell you that this whole ride-sharing part, that's a huge red herring, and that's the piece that is tossed, throw away.
It's really about the UberX, the Black, the XL. They have a whole bunch of different brands for it, but it's It's really about organizing professional drivers and, of course, bringing in some people who want to be a professional driver.
And you have different levels of vehicle maintenance, etc., that you have to adhere to.
Then in some countries and some cities, you'll have to have a livery license.
So they're really doing something good, which is streamlining the process.
Now, so I was thinking, here's a billion-dollar idea.
John, you want to write this down?
Because it's another thing we will not do.
Another great idea.
I've got a special page for great ideas that we'll never do.
Now, we have a lot of professionals in the field I'm about to talk about who listen to this program.
And I'm just looking at the landscape, and I'm thinking, with all of these individuals who are being squeezed out of the system because they can't make money the way the new system was set up, I think it's time for an Uber for medical care.
And hear me out on this.
We have doctors.
We have nurses.
And you either work for one of the big three health companies, or you're pushed out with all the regulations.
You're pushed out.
Now, what if...
Because I think if you're a doctor, you can practice as a doctor.
If you have a medical need...
Yeah, you're licensed to practice.
You're licensed.
You have a medical need.
You can look on the app, find a doctor who's available nearby, and then click, and then they'll charge you normal prices.
House calls.
You could do house calls.
They will have very transparent pricing.
Look, sometimes you have to go in the hospital and things have to happen, but we could even have clinics set up this way.
I'm telling you, there is a market for Uber for medicine, for medical care.
I think we should do this.
What?
I think we should do this.
We wouldn't have to do it for long because we'd get bought out by one of those health operations.
I'm telling you, this is a billion dollar idea.
Because all you do is, hey, look, I'm a nurse practitioner.
A nurse practitioner can do all kinds of, you know, can administer things.
They're all over the place.
And, you know, but you could just have simple, transparent pricing, things that make sense, house calls if you want.
It might actually work.
Well, it's not that, it's a simple process to set it up.
It's kind of self-administers.
Right.
All right, I'm in.
Okay, well, I'll send over the paperwork later.
I'm going to show myself old by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
One second.
J-H-J-H in the chat room.
If you say it already exists and you put that in all caps and you keep repeating it, would you please tell me what it's called, this app where it already exists, you douche knuckle?
You in the chat room.
You in the chat room.
Yeah.
All right, let's thank a few people.
Trevor Owen in Los Angeles, California.
One, two, three, four, five.
He says, this brings me a bit closer to knighthood.
Gmail that both John's emails through.
Well, he went on about the details of the mail.
Can't believe John answered.
Oh, he calls me.
Out of the blue.
He says, hello?
I said, yeah.
Who is this?
I said, who is this?
I hate it when you pick up the phone.
That's great.
And then, as usual, when anyone makes the...
This happens to me about once every six months.
They realize that there's really nothing to talk about.
That is firm that I pick up the phone once in a while.
People always come into town and like, hey, I'm going to be in town Thursday.
How about right after the show?
So, first of all, no.
No, I'm not going to do anything after the show except sleep and wallow in my own crap.
And then there'll be nothing to talk about.
Unless you find, we have found a few guys that are part of the show who are extreme, you know, like super techies or they got something going on.
Most people, I don't know, a lot of them get kind of starstruck.
Yeah.
And nobody should ever do that.
Anyway, that's just my thinking.
So he calls and then he realizes there's nothing to talk about.
He says, okay, well, thanks for talking.
Goodbye.
Goodbye.
I will say the etiquette, and sometimes I rarely pick up the phone if it doesn't show the name, therefore that number is not known in my database.
But sometimes, you know, I'll pick it up and then it's like, hello?
It's like, is this Adam Curry?
I'm like, fuck you!
Who are you?
The etiquette is, hi, I'm so-and-so.
May I please speak to Adam?
Is this Adam Curry?
Fuck you!
It's so rude.
Who's this?
I'm looking for Adam Curry.
Fuck you!
Sorry.
That pisses me off.
Yeah, you seem to like to cuss.
It's Tourette's.
There was a cool guy with Tourette's on the street the other day.
And I tried to stop him.
He was cussing?
Oh, he's one of those guys.
But he was also waving his arms.
He'd look at you and go, Hey, fuck!
Hey, fuck!
And he was waving his arms like he's a raptor.
And I turned around because he walked right by, hey, hey, hey, but he was off.
I was like, I wanted to say, hey, man, it's cool, man.
It's all right.
Do some more.
I think it's social anxiety causes that breakout.
Oh, yeah.
I had that happen.
I felt so bad for this guy.
I think I've told this on the show before, but I was on an air flight in first class.
Yeah, I remember that.
And some Tourette's guy comes on.
And he's like such a nervous wreck that he's dragging his rolling bag backwards.
Jerking around like he's jerking around.
Bomb!
Terrorist bomb!
He never did that.
But he kept just mumbling and saying stuff.
It was awkward.
And they took him off the plane.
I just felt bad for the guy.
I guess it would have been annoying if it was a long flight, but I don't know.
It's just like a terrible situation.
Anyway, let's go on now.
We did have a few people.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9.
A total of 9 well-wishers.
Oh, this was for welcome back.
Yeah, welcome back.
But first, let me also mention Sabine Trumpler, who gave $99.99, and she's in Deutschland.
And she says, thanks for all the work you do.
Please send a birthday shout-out.
And we have Samuel Buttericks on the list.
Well, seeing as she's from Deutschland, and she did the niner, niner, niner, niner.
Niner!
I'm sure she wanted that.
Oh yes, I'm sure she did not.
She mentioned it.
So let's start with the $74 well-wishers.
It was on the newsletter at the PS number one, which most people don't get to.
That's why, by the way, for people who read the newsletter, I usually put a little donate to the show pitch at the beginning of the newsletter.
And it's because if you don't put it at the beginning, most people won't read the whole newsletter.
People won't read anything.
And so it has to be right at the top.
Otherwise, they just don't read it.
I've noticed that if you don't do that, nobody donates.
Of course, there are situations where they don't donate anyway.
James Niemeyer in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Let me write some profanities on there for some reason.
Brian Ferguson in Foothill Ranch, California.
He says hello.
Hello.
Michael...
Ul, U-H-L, in Atascadero, California, welcomes you back.
Sir David Knight of the Yellow Rose in Norristown, Pennsylvania.
And is he the one who found the lucky penny?
No, that's Michael.
Sir Hank, the Viscount of Queens, who actually lives in Kew Gardens in New York City.
Eric Hoff in Edmonton, Alberta.
He says he received the newsletter in both boxes.
I don't know how that works.
I only sent him one.
Jason Daniels in Dallas, Texas.
And Todd Voss in Davenport, Iowa.
And then finally, Robert Wood in Saginaw.
We do have a note from Todd saying he's got a smoking hot milf wife.
Pictures.
Thanks to the left.
He's dedicated to Noah Jenda and his wife.
That's something interesting.
You've got to keep the MILFs happening.
We quickly fall off the charts here with Paul Sinkowski and Winooski, Vermont, 55, double nickels on the dime.
John Davis, Brentwood, Tennessee, double nickels on the dime.
Dean Roker, double nickels on the dime, parts unknown.
And James Wolfe, Wolfe, Wolfe, Wolfe.
In Los Angeles, California, double nickels on the dime.
And Sir Charles Walters in Schaumburg, Illinois, double nickels on the dime.
And I would have to say, we got about five checks in that were over 50.
And they were all double nickels on the dime.
Random number theory, people.
William LaRock in Locust, North Carolina.
Happy birthday call-out.
He's $50.34, and these final ones are all $50.
Diana Carruthers in Tumwater, Washington.
She used to have a great brewery.
Michael Gates in Colorado Springs, Colorado.
Andrew Haverson in Gravenhurst, Ontario, Canada.
Owen McGinty, parts unknown.
Joshua...
Defabaugh in Watsonville, California.
Rosalind Furness in Tunbridge Wells, Kent, UK. Actually, I think it is Tunbridge.
I think there's an R in there, but you still say Tunbridge Wells.
You don't pronounce the R, but it should be spelled.
Tunbridge Wells.
Tunbridge Wells, Kent.
Matthew Mungin in Baltimore.
The entire country of England just rolled their eyes.
What do they expect?
Yankee doodles doing our accents.
Shitty.
They don't get any money.
They don't deserve it.
Rosalind Furness.
We're not here to do imitations of the Brits.
No.
Rosalind Furness, Matthew Mungin in Baltimore, Joel Daroon in Savannah, Georgia, Paul Rudkin, or Rudkin Paul is according to this, But Paul Rudkin in Shanghai...
That's kind of cool.
And finally, last but not least, Sir Mark Tanner, who seems to come in on every show.
And he must be a baron by now, or more and more.
And Bill Hudick in Timonium, Maryland, I believe.
I believe it's Maryland.
50.
Highly appreciate people who did support us, but oh man, we haven't had a down show like this in a while.
Yeah, it's pretty bad.
Pretty bad.
An executive producer, you know, at the lowest.
I think that is the only time we've ever had a guy at the basic level got executive producer.
Usually somebody puts you 201 or something.
Well, I just have.
I have hope.
Well, you don't know.
I mean, maybe they didn't want you coming home.
It doesn't feel great.
Let's put it that way.
It's not a great homecoming.
No, not a great home.
Did they say welcome back when you went through customs?
Actually, yes.
I did get a welcome home.
Welcome home?
Yep.
Yeah, I find that pleasant.
But it was not from a customs official.
It was from one of those security douche knuckles.
Oh, that's no good.
It's supposed to be a customs guy.
And I think she actually, she kept saying...
She's just flirting with you.
Welcome back.
Step this way.
Show your thing.
Welcome back.
Step this way.
Welcome back.
It used to be so nice.
Welcome back to America, Mr.
Curry.
No, you used to get a big call out.
Yeah.
Welcome back to America, Mr.
Curry.
Land of the free, home of the brave.
Birthday thing.
I will play a couple clips of why this is, I believe, why this is.
Well, thank you to those who helped us out.
Also, thank you to everybody who came in.
Under $50, mainly for anonymity, but also our monthlies.
It's always highly appreciated, and it shows that you do understand the value of the work that we perform and do, and you like to quid pro quo reward us with your value.
Did I say that right?
It came out kind of strange.
We're competing with the summer movies for your entertainment dollar.
That's right.
I think...
We don't need as much as the movies.
I mean, we, you know, you pay a hundred bucks to go to a film with a family.
Yeah.
Well, a family of three.
It's so outrageous.
Yeah.
Please support us for the Thursday show.
We will be doing one for you.
Dvorak.org slash N.A. And
then we have one nighting today, and this is a good one.
This is Will Kessler, and he's a ham, and he has one of the most envious, or one of the call signs that I am envious of.
He has a vanity call sign.
Ready for it?
Yeah, hit me.
Kilo 5 India Tango Mike.
See, I would say India 5 in the morning.
Well, Kilo 5 in the morning.
You're such a shitty...
You said India 5.
Oh.
You're a shitty...
You know, I'm sorry.
As a professional radio amateur radio operator, I'm going to put you on notice.
Okay.
I'm going to have your license taken away if you don't start shaping up.
You gotta shape up, man.
I can say India.
Grab your sword, will ya?
There it is.
Come on, Will.
Step up.
Will Kessler, thank you very much for supporting the best podcast in the universe.
The amount of $1,000 or more.
And hereby, very proud to pronunciate you, sir.
Sir K5ITM of Bella Vista.
That's right.
You are now a Knight of the Knowers at the Roundtable.
Will Kessler, for you, we have...
Hookers and Blow, Rent Boys and Chardonnay, Shibari and Fat Rooster Craft Beer, Cheap Wine and Chili Dogs, Raspberry Pis and Breakfast Burritos, Pork Rims and Pale Ale, Drans and DMT, Bad Science and Perky Breast, Johnny Walker Green Label, Ass Creams and Bear Filling, Rent Boys and Chardonnay, and of course, we always have your mutton in need.
Along with your bong hits and bourbon.
So, Kilo 5, India Tango Mike, head on over to...
It could actually be Kessler 5 in the morning.
That's, yes.
That's perfect.
And the 5 denotes that he's probably in the Texas area.
Kessler 5 in the morning.
It's a great call sign.
Great call sign.
Kessler 5 in the morning.
7-3 is to you.
Go to noagenternation.com slash rings.
Pick up your...
I'll give you all the information and then Eric will make sure that your ring is sent to you post-haste, my friend.
Post-haste.
Okay.
You alright there?
Alright, here we have a...
This is an idiot in Congress.
Only one?
Well, he's one of the dumbest ones I've ever heard.
And you can tell why.
He's a provincial moron.
He sounds like a dummy.
His name is Buddy Carter.
So you Georgians out there must be proud of yourself to have a guy like Buddy Carter as your congressman from Savannah.
All right.
So you're no better than making fun of stupid Tennesseans.
That's true.
I'm no better.
I'm no better than anybody.
You've got to get that straight.
So here's the guy, and the reason I want to play this clip, besides it being the stupidest questions I've ever heard, and he has to admit to certain things while he is discussing, asking questions of the guy who is the chief, the head of the U.S. Marshal Service.
They're being grilled in Congress.
And this guy has a few things to say.
Now, he...
He's...
The reason I'm getting to this is that he represents the kind of thinking Congress has.
So when...
I've noticed this before.
Sometimes you travel and you come back and you get...
My mother was like this.
Why did you travel?
What's wrong with this country?
What?
Wow.
Really?
I had a meeting.
Mom in London.
Your mom would say this?
What?
Your mom would say this?
Yes.
Why did you travel?
Yeah.
John Charles, why did you travel?
What's wrong with this country?
Yeah.
Wow.
The Chinese are stealing all the toilet paper.
Yeah, that too.
She may have been on to some with the toilet paper.
But let's play the idiot...
Buddy Carter.
Yeah, this will be number one.
Just idiot Buddy Carter.
It's my understanding that many countries assess a fee or a tax, if you will, on airlines whenever we have a passenger from the U.S. landing in their country.
Is that true?
You have to understand, I've not traveled much.
In fact, I said before this committee yesterday that I've only been to two countries in my life.
And that was Texas?
Yeah.
And Mexico.
That's one more than I wanted to go to.
So I'm asking, is that true?
Hold on a second.
One more than I wanted to go to?
One more than I wanted to go to.
This is not a guy who should be representing anybody.
No, he's, wow.
Well, he's a representative, so maybe he's representative of them.
Georgia.
No, Georgia.
Play him out.
So I'm asking, is that true?
Mr.
Congressman, I'm not aware of that.
Well, that's the way I understand it, and what I understand is that the airlines are having to absorb this fee because the federal air marshals don't compensate for it.
So whenever they are flying over there, it's my understanding that the airlines are having to absorb this fee, and that's just something I need to understand and need to inquire about.
I'll provide you a follow-up on that.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Was it like $20 or something?
What's the problem?
I don't know that there's any fee at all.
To bill into the ticket if there is.
I think there is a...
Is he referring...
There's a landing fee for the...
No, it's for the aircraft.
But I believe he's referring to the passenger information database or something.
There may be some surcharge.
I have no idea.
And all I know is that what difference does it make if the air marshal gets in for free?
I mean, give me a break.
This guy's a moron.
So let's play the second part where here's where a situation occurred where I guess some air marshals had to go to a different airport and so they put him on the plane and they all end up in first class, supposedly.
This may not even be a true story because it was the only seats that were available the way I see it.
But here's the way this guy talks about it.
Can you provide to us how often your employees are flying first class and how often they're flying close?
I'll be quite honest.
I flew first class one time, and that was really not by choice.
That was the only seat they had available, and I was with my family, and my three sons got to fighting about who was going to sit in first class, and finally I resolved it by sitting there myself.
So that was the only reason I was really flying first class.
I'm just wondering why the air marshals have got to fly first class.
Okay.
This is your representative, a congressman.
I have figured out the fee.
And now I remember what it is.
Okay.
Once you...
We have the Open Skies Agreement and all this, and they added in a provision that when you are flying into Europe, you have to have a per-passenger carbon fee.
A surcharge.
Guess how much this exorbitant fee is per person?
What?
Three dollars.
Oh, well, it's a shame that the air marshals aren't paying their own three bucks.
Hold on, let me get this straight.
Hold on one second.
You, while I'm doing these clips, looked it up and found the fee.
Yeah.
Three bucks, and this stupid congressman has to ask the guy, and he wants a special report.
He wants to waste this guy's time when he has a staff in his office in Washington, D.C. that could have looked this up for him?
Mm-hmm.
What a douche this guy is.
Buddy Carter, vote him out!
Indeed.
Anyway, it's annoying to watch these.
You watch some of this stuff, especially the lesser subcommittees on C-SPAN, and these guys like this crop up all the time.
Just a dummy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Morons.
Morons.
There was...
I didn't realize this, but when I heard this clip, or I read about this next clip, I was surprised.
I'd seen postings about this physicist, Dr.
Ivar Giaver, I think the way it's pronounced.
He's a Nobel Prize winner.
Nobel Prize winning physicist.
And he was one of...
It looks like it's how many?
Maybe 50?
Some PhDs who put an advertisement in Time magazine after, on November 19th, President-elect Barack Obama said, and I quote, because I'm looking at the PDF of the ad, I quote, few challenges facing America and the world are more urgent than combating climate change.
The science is beyond dispute and the facts are clear.
And their ad, and these are guys from, let's say, University of Alaska, University of Pennsylvania, Kansas, British Natural Association, University of Oklahoma.
These are all PhDs.
Every single one is a PhD.
Their response at the time was, of course, I never even saw it.
You know, climate change, kind of thinking about it back then.
Big, bold letters.
With all due respect, Mr.
President, that is not true.
We the undersigned scientists maintain that the case for alarm regarding climate change is grossly overstated.
Surface temperature changes over the past century have been episodic and modest, and there's been no net global warming for over a decade now.
After controlling for population growth and property values, there's been no increase in damages from severe weather-related events.
The computer models forecasting rapid temperature change objectively failed to explain recent climate behavior.
Mr. President, your characterization of the scientific facts regarding climate change and the degree of certainty in forming the scientific debate is simply incorrect.
So what was interesting is this guy was speaking at a conference recently, and of all the global warming, anti-man-made global warming or climate change standpoints, or what would I... anti-man-made global warming or climate change standpoints, or what would what's the word I'm looking for?
Position?
Position, yes.
Or the reason, or position.
Rationelles?
Rationelles.
Well, he's going to tell us that climate change is bullcrap, but he does it in a way that I thought was, To me it was just mind blown.
So here is now what I worry about very much is the conference going to be in Paris in November.
And I really worry about that.
Because the conference was in Copenhagen that almost became a disaster but nothing got decided.
But now I think the people who are alarmists have a very strong position.
And so the physical society always have made up their mind, so I don't have to worry about them.
But the facts are that in the last hundred years or so we have measured the temperature, it has gone up 0.8 degrees, and everything in the world has gotten better.
Yeah!
Now you're talking!
So, he'll tell you how much better it's gotten.
So, 0.8 degrees, almost 1 degree, I believe he's talking Celsius, centigrade.
And, of course, we're all worried about the 2 degree increase.
So, B says, yes, temperature's gone up the past 100 years by 0.8 degree, and everything's just been better.
See?
So, how can they say it's gonna get worse?
When we have the evidence that if it's true that they can mesh, at least they believe it, when the temperature is going up 0.8 degrees, everything will be lived longer, we have better worth, better health, better everything.
If we go another 0.8 degrees, we're going to die, I guess.
And I say this to Obama, excuse me, Mr.
President, but you're wrong.
See, he's dead wrong.
And I said that once, I was part of an ad in the Time magazine, and I said the same thing.
Because I think Obama is a clever person, but he gets bad advice.
And in global warming, he's all that.
See, I would say that the global warming basically is a non-problem.
Just leave it alone, take care of itself.
Nobel...
Prize-winning physicist.
Well, it sure makes the wine in the Okanagan Valley up in BC a lot better.
Right.
That's just one of the many things.
One of the many.
The other ones, the German wines have improved substantially.
And everyone credits that to global warming.
Fantastic.
All right.
Well, that's the good news.
That's a different way of approaching it, yeah.
I'm just going to guess that you want this.
Time now for tech news.
It's Sunday, everybody.
That's where the tech horny go off and do the little shows.
And we here on the Best Podcast in the Universe talk about real issues of technology.
You got something?
What clip are you thinking of?
Net neutrality.
Oh, yeah.
This was a...
I caught...
There was a discussion on one of the channels, one of the cable channels, and they used this as an example of the argument for Doing something about promoting net neutrality.
And I was just stunned because there was Molly Woods on NBC. They asked her a question about all this net neutrality fuss.
And I listened to this and went, oh, there it is.
There's your classic answer.
It's not broken.
Let's fix it.
This is more about preventing a problem than it is about fixing an existing problem for consumers.
Absolutely.
It's about saying, look, there's every possibility of problems developing, and we want to stop that before it happens.
And I think that's an absolutely fair thing to say.
It's called pre-crime, Molly.
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with the way the networks are operated.
But some could happen.
Something bad could happen.
Potentially, yeah.
Give it over to the FCC to ruin it.
Yeah.
It's a matter of time before we start.
Before it's cram, it's pre-crime.
We'll get our podcasting license, I'm sure.
We'll jump through all the hoops.
Yeah, we'll jump through all the hoops.
For sure.
Was that it?
Was that your tech news?
Yeah, it was just a throwaway.
I got 99 glitches.
Glitch.
Glitch.
It's just a glitch.
And put a ghosty on there, will ya?
The only good phone's a landline, and the phone should be made out of Bakelite.
Hmm.
There you go.
Brief tech news.
But sometimes there's just not enough to talk about.
We just make it very short.
It would have been the shortest tech podcast ever.
That wasn't even worth talking about, to be honest about it.
I thought you had something.
I saw net neutrality.
I thought there was...
Yeah.
No, it was just one of those.
I throw these occasional clips on the list.
People don't realize how this show is actually produced.
But sometimes you put stuff done just on the off chance.
It comes up in the conversation, and then you got the kicker, and the other guy, either him or me, Adam or myself, we go, wow, what a great clip to come off to prove my point, or disprove it.
Very rarely.
Actually, I did kind of have a tech thing, but I'll just mention it here.
I've been following the Reddit saga lately, With, you know, initially the woman who was...
Ellen Powell.
No, no, the woman who managed all of the Ask Me Anythings, and she got fired, and everyone freaked out.
And now the whole conversation, if you follow it, has become...
Women are targeted, specifically on the Internet.
And this Ellen Powell was saying, oh, yes, I was...
It's affected much more because I'm a woman.
The trolls are winning the battle for the internet.
Oh, it's all about the trolls.
Trolls are always winning.
It's all about the trolls.
And people don't understand.
You do not have to deal with that.
You don't have to use Twitter to publish.
You don't have to use Facebook to publish.
You don't have to use Reddit.
There's many other ways.
Get a WordPress.
Learn some Linux.
Install some forum software.
There's a million things you can do.
These complaints are no good.
I'm sorry.
We were talking about this over the dinner table, JC and Jesse and whoever else was here.
And JC believes that she was brought in as a hatchet man.
And this was all planned.
Oh, I totally, totally agree.
And so they brought her in, let her become the hatchet man to straighten out Reddit so it could become an advertising vehicle, since Condi Nasta owns it, and become an advertising vehicle.
And people didn't like it, of course.
Like, screw that.
It's brand, you know, safe.
It has to be brand safe, yep.
So you get rid of all these things, let these things blow themselves up and get rid of the one woman who is, you know, having a lot to do with the success.
And then Ellen Powell, then you let, you know, things started to die, you know, starting people to bail out, so then you fire, as planned, Ellen Powell.
She was always interim.
She was always there temporary.
Yeah, she was always interim.
And so they fire her, and then everyone says, oh, they got rid of the evil witch.
We can all go back, and now the whole thing is set up for advertising.
Right.
This is the corruption of advertising.
And people are losing their collective shit.
You didn't know this was going to happen?
Seriously?
Please.
Stupid.
You don't have to do that.
We don't use anybody.
We have our own stuff set up.
We have people volunteering.
Void zero.
Running everything for us.
Very cost effective.
Thank goodness.
You can run your own email.
You don't need Gmail.
Well, this is that.
You don't need your own email.
And by the way, if people want me to stop moaning and groaning about Aussie donations, it's an easy fix.
You know what to do.
Yeah, exactly.
Dvorak.org slash NA. I think I forgot to mention that.
Exactly.
Yeah.
We are the modern media.
Postmodern.
Postmodern.
We're the postmodern media.
Yeah.
We don't have a studio.
Nope.
Well, we have separate studios, but there are...
Spare bedroom is what I got.
Spare bedroom.
Personal studios.
Not a big deal.
My daughter, when she stays over, has to sleep underneath the studio desk.
Oh, that's a shame.
That's what it is.
Well, that's where you sleep.
Never mind.
No, that was the last marriage.
I got used to sleeping on the couch, and so I kind of enjoy it.
But the thing is...
We had this, with the lock on distribution, we had literal gatekeepers who determined what would go where.
Now that that has fallen by the wayside, there are all these new models and ways of making it happen.
Now, we're never going to be rich off of this show.
Never, ever, ever at a million dollars.
We will die before we ever even come close to getting, or we say, hey, that's working out well.
But that's okay.
That, to me, is the new economy.
Trailblazers.
Well, yeah, well, Trailblazers always get burned, yeah?
But in the new models, and I just got Vonda Shepard's new CD. I helped her fund her studio session.
She got a nice little note.
I like her.
She's a good artist, and she couldn't get a label to do anything, and she said she did a Kickstarter.
Yeah, fine.
Then I got this thing yesterday.
I was emptying my mailbox.
I'm like, hey, what is this?
It's a CD. It says, you know, to Adam, thanks for the support.
Hope you enjoyed it.
Written on the CD cover.
Love, Vonda Shepard.
And, you know, she's not going to get rich off of that, but she's able to make what she wants her product.
And, you know, she can sustain herself.
So we're sustaining.
It's her name out there.
Of course.
And we're sustaining.
We're hobbling along.
In this case, hobbling for sure.
We got the ugly sticks out.
We're hobbling for sure today.
Please, bottom line, continue to prove that this works so other people can do it.
I don't think we can end the show without talking briefly about Iran.
Well, I've got a couple things.
You got some backgrounders?
Well, I didn't get a background.
We know what's going on.
I think everyone's got the background most of it.
But there was one little tidbit I thought was entertaining.
And I got the tidbit.
You know, the guy that's with Carrie is that character with the long hair, the physicist.
Yeah, the Mufant.
The Mufant guy.
I can't remember his name offhand.
It doesn't matter.
It's the Mufant guy.
He...
They were standing, all the people from Russia and everyone that was involved in these talks, and we would make it sound like we did everything in these negotiations.
And he was there with Kerry's side guy.
He's his wingman.
The guy, if he's five foot tall, it's a miracle.
Oh man, he's also short?
He's unbelievably short.
It's not even short.
Well, let me tell you, I find, because of his shortcomings and his wacky hair, I find him interesting.
He's a very smart guy.
He's very smart.
Here's how smart he is.
What is the name of this clip?
Iran Deal and Wine Cellar?
Yes!
Listen to this little story.
...is much worse at this point, even as they are trying to reassure other allies in the region that this isn't as bad as you may think.
Which is why you hear the president talking about the logic of the deal.
Right.
Well, and I was struck at that press conference.
The story I wrote was focused on this.
You know, I thought of his love for Mr.
Spock, which he has expressed logic and science.
The White House is coming really hard with the science on this deal, trying to make it seem as though there's really no counter-argument at all.
And that drives opponents crazy, by the way.
What about the science of the deal, guys?
Well, there's a reason that Ernie Moniz, the former head of physics at MIT and now the energy secretary, was brought to this deal.
Because there was a second negotiation going on that in some ways was more fascinating than the one between Secretary Kerry and Minister Javad Zarif, the Iranian foreign minister.
And that was between Moniz and his counterpart, his Iranian counterpart, who also went to MIT as a student.
And that conversation was an effort to depoliticize the issue by coming up with technical solutions to what was essentially a political problem.
And they managed to do it.
Much of it down in the wine cellar of the Coburg Palace Hotel, which was down so deep in the rocks of this old site that the Iranians began to call it Fordo, which is the name of their underground nuclear enrichment center.
How many bottles of wine were down there?
60.
I don't think any of them were consumed in this negotiation, though.
Let's not give people the wrong idea.
It did look like a dungeon down there.
It did look like a dungeon, and we were told definitively there is no wine in Fordo.
But there was plenty of radioactive material, which all has got to come out under this agreement.
But the idea here was take the politics out.
The problem is that when this goes to Congress, If your vision of what the deal was going to be was take apart all of Iran's nuclear facilities, dismantle everything, there's nothing that Ernest Moniz can say to you that you're going to like.
Huh.
What a great gig.
I bet you Moniz knows all about it, too.
I bet he's an aficionado.
I bet he really knows his wine.
I bet he does.
Doesn't he seem like a guy that would know what's going on?
Yeah, nice.
He does.
He has all the earmarks.
Nice one.
So, if I understand properly or correctly, this is more of the believe in the science.
You know, your new religion is science.
You don't believe anything as long as we have some scientific theory that goes along with it.
The Republicans are pretty immune to that because they know how they're being hoodwinked as bullcrap.
Yes, yes.
But, you know, this deal, I've looked it over as best I can.
I haven't really read the document from page...
I have some things to say about it.
I just don't see it as that bad of a deal, that these guys are all bent out of shape, like we're going to be at World War III. Well, the rubbleization of the Middle East will commence with this deal, and the money that's going to be made on selling arms into Iran is crazy.
It's another great sales job.
That's what we want to do.
Yeah, of course.
So that's opening up.
Why is anybody against that?
Well, I also think that the $100 billion, that's not leaving the United States.
I mean, I wasn't able to find it in, I'm sure there's an addendum or some rider to this agreement.
Somewhere there's going to be another exhibit.
There's got to be something that says the $100 billion that we've frozen will be unfrozen, but you have to spend it on defense companies in the United States.
It has to be.
That's the way it would work.
That was the deal I would make.
$100 billion, but you've got to, you know...
And, of course, it's like a catch-22 because the administration can't say, well, you know, we're really just going to be selling a bunch of stuff that kills brown people to Iran.
But at the same time, they also would really like to counter the we're giving them $100 billion.
I think the deal is great.
Give it to us.
You know, it's what we do.
I'm not happy with it, but it's what we do.
We make war stuff.
Look at all of our vehicles.
Look at everything.
Everything we have is a derivative of the military-industrial complex.
So this belief in science, and I don't know if this is true, but I have a couple of...
She says, what's the science of the deal?
Here we go.
So the American Psychological Association will, in their upcoming journal, which is to be released in early August, according to reports, I don't know for sure, will publish the results of a study.
And I shall read the executive summary as reported by multiple outlets.
This is a study, a five-year study by the APA, the American Psychological Association.
According to the APA, a strong and passionate belief in a deity or higher power to the point where it impairs one's ability to make conscientious decisions about common sense matters will now be classified as a mental illness.
Dr.
Lillian Andrews, professor of psychology, stated, quote, every year thousands of people die after refusing life-saving treatment on religious grounds.
Even when being told, quote, you will die without this treatment, end quote, patients reject the idea and believe that their God will save them.
Those lives could be saved simply by classifying those people as mentally unfit for decision-making.
And it's true.
Jehovah's Witnesses refuse blood transfusions, even if they're dying.
I mean, I don't understand why we're going to...
Well, the Christian science is the one that's most notorious for that.
For what?
Refusing these sorts of treatments.
Oh, okay.
Christian science.
But this would be very interesting if the APA is going to...
Sorry, you're now nuts.
We can do whatever we want.
Do you really think that's going to happen?
Oh, are you kidding me?
Of course.
This is so wrong.
It's part of the fascist way of doing things.
Yeah.
Yeah, completely fascist.
We don't have time.
It goes like this.
You know, we don't have time for this nonsense.
Yeah.
We're going to treat you whether you like it or not.
As a mental patient.
Well, being in California now, it is now mandatory.
All children who want to attend school and for homeschooling must have their vaccinations.
Homeschooling.
And Jim Carrey wrote an op-ed.
You must be kicked out of the house for not having a right way.
They're going to come in and check.
Jim Carrey wrote a long op-ed on this.
And he says, you know, you cannot mandate the American people to do this if there is any doubt about the safety of any vaccine.
And, of course, he has to start off his entire op-ed with, hey, hey, hold on a second.
You know, I want to make very clear that I'm all for vaccines, the ones that are proven to work.
But, you know, the ones that are not, that are not safe or have question.
And I think every vaccine has questionable safety.
There's always a margin of people who react adversely.
But now in California, what is it?
SB, what is it called?
I don't have it here.
And he goes into a little bit of no agenda deconstruction.
He says here, the pharmaceutical industry's web of influence doesn't end in Washington or Sacramento.
This trillion-dollar industry perhaps has its greatest reach in Atlanta, where the Center for Disease Control is located and where the revolving door spins in perpetuity.
Take Julie Gerberding, for example, who spent nearly a decade as the director of CDC, then left to head the vaccine department at Merck.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, say goodbye to your career, Jim.
What's left of it?
What's left of it?
No, they're going to screw this guy into the ground.
It doesn't take much.
Anyway, so back to Iran.
Wendy Sherman, who I'm increasingly liking, she's the undersecretary for, what is she?
I think she's undersecretary of state.
And I like her because she looks kind of similar type of person as Fifi Lagarde.
It's kind of that kind of, you know what I mean?
Okay.
So you see her now, you'll know that's Wendy Sherman.
And there's some discrepancy.
There's some shuffling going on to get...
This deal done.
And I just wanted to give people, producers, a breakdown.
Because, you know, people will follow whatever they're hearing on the news.
And so, like, well, the Republicans, they're going to block it, Republicans.
So I'll tell you what the rules are and how it works and what I think is going to be done.
Here is Wendy Sherman discussing getting this through.
Are you willing to hold off at the UN on the resolution that encompasses this agreement until Congress has had its vote?
What would be the impact if you were to?
Well, the way that the UN Security Council resolution is structured, there is an interim period.
So what is happening here is instead of sending this directly to the Senate, which is where it should go, and everyone's talking about the Congress or Congress, they're going to do a UN Security Council vote.
Well, the way that the U.N. Security Council resolution is structured, there is an interim period of 60 to 90 days that I think will accommodate the congressional review.
And it would have been a little difficult when all of the members of the P5 plus 1 Wanted to go to the United Nations to get an endorsement of this, since it is a product of the United Nations process, for us to say, well, excuse me, the world, you should wait for the United States Congress.
So what we worked out is a process that allows this time and space for the congressional review before it takes effect.
And there may be other legislatures who also want to look at this.
So it anticipates.
That there is a period of review while at the same time allowing the international community to speak.
So a little bit of fancy footwork there.
And just so you know what the actual law is, this is Article 2, Section 2, Clause 2.
Easy to remember.
So you can rattle that off to anybody.
Well, according to Article 2, Section 2, Clause 2...
The President shall have power by and with the advice and consent of the Senate to make treaties provided two-thirds of the Senators present concur.
So I looked at all the different permutations of that, and the advice and consent is a part of what is known as the treaty clause.
And so the literal meaning of this is that you have to take advice from the Senate to And two-thirds of the Senate has to approve this message.
Which I believe will be difficult, just on political grounds.
The Republicans, of course, will block this.
So what they're trying to do now is have the president...
I can tell you what's going to happen, because I think Roosevelt did this.
If you can't get the two-thirds vote that you need from Senate, then you can just issue an executive order for the term of your presidency, which then gives you more room to try and go get the votes.
And I think that's what's going to happen, but it's going to be sold to the American public as the world, the international community in the form of the United Nations Security Council says, yes, this is a good deal.
Oh, really?
We're going to have everyone go, America, the world will wait for you?
And so that's how they're going to shepherd it through, and a future president could unwind that.
That's why they're not going to call it a treaty.
But a treaty, by its definition, can last into the next presidency, and it's not something you can just change easily with an executive order.
So I think you're going to see an executive order approving the deal so that more fighting can take place and more disparaging of people who dissent.
Republicans.
It always boils down to the Republicans.
That's what it is.
That's what it is.
But I find it discouraging to hear people talk about Congress voting.
People don't even know what's in the one document you can reference.
Well, I think that it was well played by Kerry when he was doing his interview on one of these networks, I think it was NewsHour, with Judy.
Mm-hmm.
And he said, these people are moaning and groaning.
They have not even read this thing.
And this is the way Congress operates.
And then, of course, we see these things like the 10...
And this is only 170 pages, I believe.
It's not like the 10,000 page, you know, after we pass it, you can read it, kind of stuff that goes on in Congress.
This is a very dysfunctional operation, this whole thing.
Yeah.
They have to read it.
I don't know.
I have not heard a good argument except hysteria.
You hear it from John McCain.
You hear it from Lindsey Graham.
Oh, you can't trust them.
Although, Kerry and everybody else has said the following, which is that you don't have to trust them.
We have a schedule of things that we do and then the facts allow us to continue.
It's got nothing to do with trust.
There's no trust involved in this entire thing.
Right, right, right.
You can't trust them.
They're going to screw us.
They're going to bomb us.
They're going to terrorize us.
And I don't understand exactly what McCain and Lindsey Graham and these other guys are waiting for a bigger under-the-table payment from the defense industry because they're the ones who are going to benefit from this.
And you think these guys are all in on getting them more money.
Maybe it's just a scam.
Maybe they're, I mean, there's some evidence that McCain's already in on this deal.
Oh, especially with the procurement.
Of course, of course he is.
So they're just going to posture.
Okay, well, I think that's enough.
We don't need to talk about this anymore.
I would want to play an end-of-show clip, which is...
In the show notes today, I have four clips.
I only want to play one of this great party at the White House.
For the Library of Congress Gershwin Award honoring Sir Paul McCartney.
And I thought the Jerry Seinfeld piece, I put it like a two minute clip of a piece of his...
Didn't you play that in the last show?
No, I said I played Paul McCartney singing Michelle and I said we would play it on today's show.
Then I said, do you want to hear Jerry Seinfeld?
You said yes.
I said no, I'll save it for Sunday.
Oh, okay.
Does that make any sense?
Do you have anything else you want to...
We do probably have to get the Greek thing out of the way.
I do have a couple of clips I want because we're falling behind on that.
These are pretty short.
This one's kind of long, but the other ones are short.
Play the Greek part one, Democracy Now!, and then I'll cut it off if it's going the wrong way.
Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras is facing protests from members of his own Tsipras party after accepting harsh austerity measures in exchange for a new international bailout.
In order for the deal to move forward, the Greek parliament must accept pension cuts and other reforms by Wednesday, 10 days after voters rejected similar reforms in a referendum.
After European leaders pressed Greece to accept the austerity package, the hashtag this is a coup trended on social media.
I don't remember.
I believe.
I don't remember that.
I do.
Okay.
So let's go right to the last clip, because there's something in this clip, which we've been sitting on, that I thought was interesting.
This is the rundown.
Now, we've played this with the kicker.
Welcome to Democracy Now!, democracynow.org, the War and Peace Report.
I'm Amy Goodman.
Greece and its European creditors have reached a deal that will force Greece to accept sweeping German-backed austerity measures in order to receive a third bailout and remain in the Eurozone.
Provided the Greek Parliament accepts the terms, the deal paves the way for a three-year bailout worth up to $96 billion.
After European leaders press Greece to accept an austerity package seen as amounting to a surrender of its fiscal sovereignty, the hashtag ThisIsACoup trended on social media.
Talks continued overnight until Greece agreed to immediately implement measures, including pension reform and the privatization of its energy transmission network.
The deal comes after...
Yeah, we did play this.
Okay, so we got the Greeks thing out of the way.
I just wanted to...
The Greeks of math, we have not played, I don't think.
That's not going to...
I think we played that too.
That's a bogus clip.
It's got nothing to do with math.
Oh.
Alright, well...
Okay, I do have a funny clip.
Hey, John, that was really bad, what you just did.
Yeah, I know.
But it was short.
It wasn't long.
I almost want to cut it out.
I mean, just edit that out.
That was the worst thing.
I mean, I've done stuff like this.
Okay, I make up for it.
Okay, alright.
This is the FIFA Mafia clip.
Are you sure we haven't?
I think we've played this one, too.
No.
Yeah.
The first of seven FIFA officials being held in Switzerland on corruption charges has been extradited to the United States.
This morning's extradition follows the beginning of Senate hearings yesterday to investigate the corruption scandal that's thrown the world's soccer governing body into turmoil.
On Wednesday, senators questioned how much U.S. soccer officials knew about the corruption and demanded an overhaul of the global organization.
Senator Richard Blumenthal compared FIFA to the mafia.
The fact of the matter is that what has been revealed so far is a mafia-style crime syndicate in charge of this sport.
My only hesitation in using that term is that it is almost insulting to the mafia because The mafia would never have been so blatant, overt, and arrogant.
I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here.
Yes.
You're winning, sir.
Oh, thank you very much.
Well, we know that this is all because we didn't get those games going to Qatar.
Yeah.
And it sends a message.
The message is, you can be a criminal, but don't try to, don't screw us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And where's that reporting?
I don't know.
It mystifies me.
All right.
All right.
Wrap it.
I'm wrapping up.
All right.
The end of show clip will be Jerry Seinfeld making fun of Paul McCartney.
It's pretty decent.
And, of course, you didn't see this anywhere.
I don't know why.
I don't know why anyone...
They've been broadcasting this.
There's so much good material.
So just a little uplifting thing to take you into the final stages of your weekend.
Are you doing twit today?
No.
Okay, good.
I'm glad.
There was no tech news.
I noticed.
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In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
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Sir Paul, you have written some of the most beautiful music ever heard by humans in this world.
It's my favorite music that I've ever heard in my life.
I love you for it.
And yet, some of the lyrics and some of the songs, as they go by you, can make one unsure, even concerned sometimes, about what exactly is happening in this song.
Songs such as I saw her standing there, and I quote, she was just 17, you know what I mean.
I'm not sure I do know what you mean, Sir Paul. - I think I know what you mean.
Getting Better from Sgt.
Pepper, again, quoting, I used to be cruel to my woman.
I beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loved.
Nice.
Same woman by any chance?
I'm kidding, of course, and I can because Paul and I have gotten to know each other a little bit over the years.
That's how I got this gig.
But what makes him the unparalleled artist that he is is that the world has also gotten to know him through his unforgettable music.
We followed your life story.
In the beginning, a young man who said, I want to hold your hand.
All my loving.
I feel fine.
Please, please, me.
A little self-involved.
What the hell?
You were in show business, good-looking guy, thin, why not?
Then marriage and family, and it changed a little.
Now it was about the long and winding road.
Oh my God.
Penny Lane, just glad to be out of the house getting a haircut.
Fixing a hole where the rain gets in.
These are husband lyrics, ladies and gentlemen.
And it really doesn't matter if I'm wrong, I'm right.
This is an argument.
More husband songs followed, like Get Back, Help...
And of course, would you just let it be?
Hey!
Hey!
Boom, chaka-laka! chaka-laka!
Boom, chaka-laka!
All right, judge number one, Manny Pacquiao, your question, please.
Thank you.
If you were given 30 seconds to deliver a message to a global terrorist, what would you say?
We need to kill them.
We need to kill them.
Are we morons?
We need to bomb them, bomb them, and bomb them again.
Thank you, USA. We'll send you back over there.
Shut up already.
Science.
Adios, mofo.
The best podcast in the universe.
Amen.
Fist bump.
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