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	And just beat the crap out of him in the courtroom.
	Nice.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, June 18, 2015.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 731.
	This is No Agenda.
	Watching C-SPAN and reading Latin so you don't have to.
	Broadcasting live from FEMA Region 6 in the Crackpot Condo in downtown Austin Tejas in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley where the trucks go by and things are great, I'm John C. Forak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.
	It's one of those days.
	Trucks are going by.
	Yeah, things are great.
	Slowly.
	Things are great.
	I was thinking we should consider a new opening.
	Warriors won.
	What?
	Yeah, I just didn't turn you on to the game, the final game.
	Oh, the Warriors won.
	Oh, congratulations.
	That's great.
	I don't own them.
	No, it's the Currys.
	The Currys run that show.
	Right?
	No, no.
	It's the Lay Cub, the guy from...
	No, but isn't the guy Curry on the team?
	Oh, yeah, right, the Curry guy.
	Yeah, my brother from another mother.
	Yeah, your brother from the other mother, yeah, Curry.
	I was thinking we should, I was listening to some old air checks.
	Like, we should start the show differently.
	Why?
	Listen.
	Hey, everybody, it's time for Non-Gender.
	How you doing there, Johnny Mark?
	Hey.
	Wahoo!
	Woohoo!
	Let's get the new order!
	Oh, it's just a thought.
	That's such a great song.
	It's one of the greatest.
	It is.
	Ventures.
	Oh man, oh man, oh man.
	A lot going on, John.
	It's all little bitty interesting stories.
	There's a little terrorism.
	Everything's kind of a blend.
	Just a little terrorism.
	Some fraud.
	Not too much.
	Economies going into the tank.
	Google Translate doesn't do very well translating Latin to English, I'll have you know.
	Latin is very difficult to translate directly to English or back and forth.
	Right.
	I was trying to decipher the true wording of the Pope's encyclical.
	Does he write that in Latin?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, you didn't know that?
	No, I didn't.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, I have the CNN. I thought it was pidgin English, actually.
	This is a big deal.
	And, of course, it's a big deal to me because I chose this Pope, as you know.
	No, you predicted him.
	You didn't choose him.
	You weren't in the voting booth.
	Well...
	It's a big difference.
	I like to think I chose this pope.
	Well, you can say what you want.
	I chose my prediction of this pope based on him being a Jesuit.
	Yeah, logic.
	Jesuit, South America.
	That's all we do on this show.
	Is logic.
	For anyone interested, is logic.
	And, of course, I was also looking for a leader who could help shepherd in the new world order.
	He's the guy, you got that right.
	Here's CNN with the pre-hype.
	It's called Laudato Si, or Praised Be, on the care of our common home.
	Church leaders say that this is the first time the release of a papal encyclical has been so anticipated.
	Oh really?
	We're all just so anticipated.
	I was on the edge of my seat.
	A Brazilian climate change group even created an epic theatrical trailer for the Pope's words.
	If we destroy creation, creation will destroy us.
	But what exactly is an encyclical?
	It's the most authoritative teaching document a pope can issue, and signifies a high-priority issue for the pope.
	Encyclicals aren't infallible, but they're not just the pope's opinion either, and Catholics are called to take them seriously.
	Francis is the first pope ever to dedicate an entire encyclical to ecological concerns.
	I don't get economic policy from my bishops or my cardinals or from my pope.
	A move which has worried conservatives who fear it will be seen as an endorsement of a liberal agenda on climate change and population control.
	With the Pope's popularity, this encyclical will be a milestone that places the Roman Catholic Church at the forefront of one of the major scientific and moral issues of our times.
	Now, do you know when the last encyclical was put out?
	I have no idea.
	Not that I know, but this is a big deal for...
	For believers?
	Well, I have a report from, I think it's, I don't know where mine's from, the Pope.
	But it is, I think, PBS. Okay, hold on a sec.
	At the Vatican, Pope Francis appealed to critics today to listen to his views on climate change.
	He'll issue a lengthy encyclical on the issue tomorrow.
	According to a leaked version, he'll argue that burning fossil fuels is driving global warming.
	Now, you know, hold on a second.
	A leaked version?
	What is this?
	That's what your report is about, the leaked version.
	Yeah.
	These guys are the new Vatican.
	Yeah, they're leaking.
	The new Vatican, ladies and gentlemen.
	We have our spokes holes on a leaked version.
	Who's running it for them?
	Hill and Knowlton?
	Who's running the show?
	They're doing a good job.
	Somebody.
	Yeah.
	At his weekly general audience today, the pontiff aimed his remarks at climate change skeptics.
	This home of ours is being ruined and that damages everyone, especially the poor.
	This is then an appeal on my side towards responsibility.
	I ask everybody to welcome this document with an open spirit.
	The encyclical could be the most controversial since 1968, when Pope Paul VI enshrined the Church's ban on birth control.
	Oh, that's it.
	Okay.
	Do you want to hear the longer report with some translation, which I deem to be pretty accurate?
	I would love to.
	Are you on the edge of your seat once again?
	I'm on pins and needles.
	It is a big deal.
	This is going to go very, very far.
	People care about what this guy says.
	Somebody went over there and said, hey Pope, get on board or else.
	Have you seen what happens to Popes when they're not on board?
	Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
	You know, you don't want to have to be in one of those Popemobiles now, do you?
	It's past noon here in Rome, so first of all, I want to show you the encyclical, which we can now officially show because the embargo has been lifted at noon Rome time.
	They have embargoes!
	They have embargoes, John!
	I'm sorry, but you have to sign a non-disclosure to read the encyclical?
	Now, if they had an embargo, then these are not leaked versions.
	Then they had versions that were final under embargo.
	Or am I misunderstanding how it works?
	You're misunderstanding for sure.
	Oh?
	It's your definition of leaked.
	What does that mean to you?
	WikiLeaks, PR... But under embargo...
	That means somebody took the embargoed version and they didn't agree to it.
	They somehow got a copy and then they released it.
	Exactly.
	But it's called leaked if it comes out before the embargo.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Okay, got it.
	The press conference is still going on.
	It runs to 183 pages, so it's a lot to get through.
	But I've pulled out a few quotes so I can go ahead and tell you what are some of the salient points of the Pope's discussion on the environment.
	In the first place, he says, very solid scientific consensus indicates that we are witnessing a disturbing warming.
	Wow, man.
	100%.
	The Pope is now down with consensus.
	Fantastic.
	This is good.
	Good, good, good stuff.
	Of the climactic system.
	So, clearly the Pope coming straight out of the gate with the science.
	Yeah, straight out of the climate gate.
	And going ahead and starting his encyclical saying, I'm going to take the science for what it says.
	No.
	Oh man, this is fantastic.
	This is how we make science into religion, by having a leader of spirituality.
	Yeah, of course!
	And that is important because we know that some of the controversy related to this encyclical...
	I don't know if it's in there, but all he needs to say is, I believe in science!
	And then we're good.
	It's about whether or not the science is still shaky, but in several places the Pope brings up the human causes of climate change.
	He says humanity is called to changes in lifestyle, production, and consumption.
	Nice, huh?
	Die, slaves!
	Die.
	It really says what kills me is he says this is to benefit the poor.
	Yeah, that's pretty good.
	Exactly.
	I don't think so.
	In order to combat warming, at least the human causes that aggravate it.
	He said the earth is beginning to look more and more like an immense pile of filth.
	We're all going to die.
	He talks about the right to water, especially for the poor.
	He talks about the extinction of species, about deforestation.
	And he says the worst impact will be felt by developing countries in the coming decades.
	And that, again, goes back to what we said earlier, that the expectation was that he would link the question of climate change to the economies of developing countries.
	This part is very interesting, Natalie.
	He talks about the discussions that go on between international political and economic experts.
	He says, leave the poor, it seems, as an afterthought.
	He said, they remain at the bottom of the pile.
	And part of the reason the pope says that this happens, he thinks, is because these discussions occur in urban affluent areas where they do not have contact with the poor.
	This kind of bugged my ear, and now I'm realizing what it is.
	This idea that the conversations are being held in urban areas where there are no poor people.
	Most urban areas are filled with poor people.
	But what he's talking about is suburban areas, quote-unquote, Davos.
	Not an urban area by any means.
	Davos.
	Exactly.
	Davos.
	This also fits into the President's announcement earlier in the week.
	Yeah, I think it was early in the week.
	That he wants to diversify neighborhoods.
	We didn't talk about it on the show.
	I did have it in the show notes.
	And the idea is, if you want your local, your state-federal funding, then we're going to have the brown shirts with their armbands come in and make sure there's enough diversity in every community.
	Which makes no sense.
	Of course, this is probably being done for...
	Forced integration, that's interesting.
	Yeah.
	Okay, you got any Mexicans in your neighborhood?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, we got two here.
	I got a flock.
	And he says often the green rhetoric, he calls it, the green rhetoric goes on as part of that discussion.
	And he mentions the media in particular, and he mentions finance, and he mentions business.
	And he says there's a green rhetoric going on in these kind of affluent areas, which is not connected to what's happening on the ground with poor people.
	And he says we need to hear both the cry of the earth and the cry of the poor.
	The cry of the earth.
	But I don't hear anywhere...
	God speaking.
	Doesn't he have a hotline?
	I don't know.
	Or is that too simplistic?
	Apparently this guy doesn't care.
	Then we have the final bid is population control.
	I'll just give you one last thing, Natalie, which is population control.
	That was something that people are interested to hear what the Pope will say about that because many had suggested that as a solution to problems of the climate.
	The Pope clearly saying population control is not the answer.
	Demographic growth is compatible.
	With development, he says.
	The end of the encyclical, Natalie, he gives some suggestions for these lifestyle changes, such as carpooling, taking the bus.
	He says, put on an extra sweater rather than turning up your heat and cook only what you can eat.
	That's right.
	We're a spiritual leader of the Catholic Church.
	Carpool.
	No, the guy has, he's invested in Uber.
	It's obvious.
	His portfolio is filled up.
	This is...
	Out of control.
	But of course, everyone is working right along with it.
	It's all timed, as is typical, probably because they had a copy of the embargoed encyclical.
	Here is John P. Holdren.
	One of my favorite people in this administration, he is the White House Presidential Science Advisor.
	Famously, in the 70s, he said, oh, we're going into global cooling, and he switched that later into global warming, and so, of course, when the How could you switch from global cooling and you're cocksure?
	And we should mention to people, because I remember hearing Bill Maher say, oh, there's one article in Newsweek.
	Yeah, there was one article in Newsweek that was passed around the internet left and right, but when you do any research, there were hundreds of articles.
	Yeah.
	Hundreds written about this.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Now, how you switch, I don't know, maybe he identifies with global warming now.
	I think he just identifies as being a troublemaker.
	Because we all know a global low-carbon economy in 2050 is going to have to meet the energy needs of 9 or 10 billion people.
	Wow, is that true?
	9 or 10 billion people in 5 years?
	He said 1920.
	No, it's not true.
	He said 2020, didn't he?
	Let me listen again.
	Because we all know a global low-carbon economy in 2050 is...
	Oh, 2050.
	That number is questionable because most populations stabilize once they become more affluent.
	That includes China.
	I hate to point out there was a TED Talk.
	That's not okay.
	That's what I said.
	I apologize in advance.
	That means you can't condemn me.
	You just did.
	I'm sorry.
	With a population expert, and he showed how these things actually work.
	They do not just go out of control.
	It's just not what happens.
	They stabilize.
	I mean, in some countries like Italy, they have negative growth, population growth.
	And the other countries are showing zero population growth.
	Oh, there's going to be tons of countries with negative population growth.
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	And so this is bull crap.
	This is nonsense.
	Oh, gee.
	Huh.
	Somehow I hadn't figured out that he's talking bullcrap.
	Okay, let's continue.
	And there's a very important thing missing from his little tirade here.
	We're going to have to meet the energy needs of 9 or 10 billion people.
	So we're going to go 2 billion people in 35 years?
	Using technologies that will have to be more advanced than the technology.
	How about advanced nuclear energy?
	You know what?
	I'm going to give him a little, little, little teeny tip of the prop because he does mention that.
	...that are in place today.
	Buildings, agriculture, machines must be dramatically more energy efficient.
	Cars, trucks, and planes are going to have to run on electricity, biofuels, or hydrogen.
	Electricity generation is going to need to come primarily from renewables and nuclear energy.
	See, I have to say, But renewables, wind and solar, as you pointed out a couple shows ago, these are not renewables.
	Correct?
	I don't think it was about that.
	No, they're continuous.
	It's not technically renewable.
	I like that point.
	If you have the wood, you burn it, and you can grow another tree.
	And nuclear is also not renewable.
	No.
	But it is completely carbon-free and it is clean.
	And it will go thousands and thousands of years with the supply we have, so who cares?
	The emissions from most of the remaining fossil fuel combustion are going to need to be diverted permanently from the atmosphere.
	But even bigger than the challenge of funding for research and development and demonstration is the challenge of the valley of death.
	I'm all ears now.
	Can you take us through the valley of death?
	Finding the capital to move innovations through that valley across to commercial success on the other side.
	And this, of course, is where the role of financing and the focus of this summit.
	Three government money is what he's talking about.
	Yes, yes.
	And the reason why we know Kleiner Perkenstride with a green fund in 2005 or 2006.
	Yeah.
	It was a huge flop.
	Yeah, I think it hurt the company's image.
	People don't want to invest in this because it just doesn't make sense.
	It costs too much money.
	And if you go into nuclear, there's no teat to suck off.
	You throw the fuel in there and it runs forever and it eats its own waste and you can have it small and modular and none of that.
	Okay.
	So that is one side of the White House.
	Joe Biden was at this investor's, was like a federal investor, I forget the exact name of it.
	Roundtable.
	That's what I call it.
	Okay, yeah.
	It was a roundtable to get people excited about investing.
	What you're doing really, really matters.
	Really, really?
	I want to tell you, you've got a partner in us.
	We'll do everything that's reasonably possible.
	And there's no pride of authorship here.
	We're doing things that aren't working.
	We could do more to make it work better.
	I like what he says.
	It's the biggest economy in the world.
	How's it not working?
	It's not working, man.
	To make it work better for you all?
	Y'all?
	To make it more attractive to invest and be engaged?
	Let us know.
	Being engaged?
	Because this is the single most important thing that Barack Obama and Joe Biden can do in eight years.
	Of a presidency and vice presidency is to actually get a handle.
	Get a handle.
	Handle.
	Get a handle.
	Get a handle.
	On climate change.
	Get a handle.
	Apparently three handles are involved.
	And now, Joe...
	How come Joe's not running for the presidency?
	Come on, you wimp!
	Go run!
	And now we have Joe who completely brings your, which I subscribe to, your theory together about rubbleizing the Middle East, blowing up the wells, and now when you put this together with climate change, when you put it together with the papal encyclical, and let me just ask you...
	The whole world's out to kill us.
	I want to ask you a question.
	If you're the Pope, do you like Muslims?
	Well, this Pope probably loves him, but not so much that he doesn't give a crap about rebelizing the Middle East.
	That would be my guess.
	I think so.
	Now, Joe always kind of speaks to his heart, and I think he completely buys into your theory and is letting it slip that this is the plan.
	North America has now remained the epicenter of energy for the remainder of the first half of this century, at least, and probably well in the next century.
	Is this true?
	The epicenter?
	How can it be the epicenter of energy?
	Well, he's extrapolating what can be had from Trump.
	Ah, no, no, no, no.
	We're no longer going to be talking about the epicenter being Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, Venezuela, North America is the place.
	When I say that, and I say it in other contexts in foreign policy, it's when everyone assumes I'm only talking about the phenomenal breakthroughs in natural gas.
	See, he's talking to you, and you assume that, which makes an ass out of you and me, John.
	Exactly.
	All of which have been new technologies that have been all very positive.
	But there's another transformational, equally important thing happening in renewable energy and reducing carbon pollution here and around the world.
	Now listen to this.
	We are the epicenter of renewable energy, John.
	Because there's more wind here, I guess, and there's more solar.
	That is the future.
	Future.
	That is the future.
	Future.
	A key driver to the development and deployment of clean energy is...
	All of you.
	Right now, renewable energies, and I know I'm preaching to the choir, you're probably the only people who really know this, generates about 13% of our electric energy needs and about 10% of all of our energy needs in the nation.
	Since 2008, solar generation has increased twenty-fold.
	Granted, it still only represents about one-half or one percent of our needs, but over time, there's no reason why that can't increase exponentially.
	There's lots of reasons.
	It doesn't work that way.
	I've got a reason right here.
	It's overcast.
	The power has tripled, representing roughly 9% of our primary energy needs in the United States.
	There's no reason why both wind and energy, among other renewables, wind and solar, can increase exponentially.
	There's not a single reason on God's green earth, and you're going to help keep it green, that by the year 2020, renewables aren't doubled.
	They represent 20% of the electric generation, 26% of electric generation, and 20% of all energy generation nations.
	Well, first of all, I have to ask...
	Well, he's rambling a lot, so I don't think he's drunk per se, but I think he's had a couple.
	But I think what he's doing is very subtle, but what he is saying is we need to increase our so-called renewables, solar and wind, and you can do that, but you need one extra component.
	You need natural gas.
	For when there's no wind or when there's no sun.
	So yeah, and that, and so he's lying.
	He's saying, well, I'm not talking about fracking and the potential to have all this gas that we have, and no, it's not about that.
	It's about our incredible technology.
	One half of one percent.
	Yeah.
	Our incredible technology that brings us these renewables, and we need to increase that.
	Well, sure, you can increase it, but then you automatically have to increase the natural gas supply.
	That is all solar, all wind plants are built with a gas-fired plant right on premises.
	Or maybe sometimes it can be hydro.
	So when I hear this, you know, and he says Saudi Arabia, Nigeria, Venezuela, rebelize that shit.
	Get rid of it because, oh, we'll save you with gas.
	90% gas and then this little teeny bit of so-called renewable energy.
	And the thing I'm missing from his little talk here and from the Pope and from Holdren, what happened to peak oil?
	You know, I always liked the peak oil idea.
	Peak oil.
	I love the peak oil idea.
	Whatever happened to peak oil.
	Yeah, whatever happened to peak oil.
	Those are old shows.
	I was doing some of that, and it was like, oh, yeah, there's another one.
	I love the peak oil.
	The old memes, they come, they go, peak oil.
	Peak oil is good because if they, I think it's much simpler, if you just stay on the peak oil tip, eventually we'll have to go to something else because we'll run out of oil, right?
	Yeah.
	Well, they gave up on that one, I guess, because they keep finding too much oil.
	Every time you turn around, there's more oil.
	It's like the globe is just underneath the crust.
	There's just tons of this stuff.
	And the epicenter is here.
	Well, the only way here's...
	Now, this has always been an anti-petroleum economy movement that's been going on in any way we can do it.
	And that's why I came up with this idea that they're going to just...
	Hell with it.
	Let's just destroy the supply of oil by poisoning it with radiation.
	Oh, nice.
	So let's let those idiots in the Middle East just go at each other with a couple of nukes.
	It doesn't take much.
	One nuke in the oil fields of Saudi Arabia.
	Good to go.
	That's done.
	You won't be able to go back there for decades.
	But we also have to do it in Nigeria.
	Well, he did mention Nigeria.
	And we should do it, where else?
	Russia?
	Russia would be a target.
	But Russia's got a lot of gas.
	I think we're just after the oil.
	I don't think we want to get into an exchange with Russia.
	Russia's off the table.
	And of course they decided to do a little so-called saber rattling.
	I got a couple of clips.
	This is about the chlorine?
	No, not about the chlorine.
	Just play, this is the Russia, Russia One.
	Russia's announced plans to increase its nuclear arsenal.
	On Tuesday, Russian President Vladimir Putin said his government will add more than 40 new intercontinental ballistic missiles this year.
	Speaking in Brussels, NATO Secretary General Jen Stoltenberg accused Russia of nuclear saber-rattling.
	This nuclear saber-rattling of Russia.
	There's such a dichotomy in terms, you know.
	Saber-rattling nuclear.
	But I just love this accent.
	Who is this?
	That's some guy from, I think he's a Dutch.
	Luxembourg, Luxembourg.
	Of nuclear saber-rattling.
	This nuclear saber rattling of Russia is unjustified.
	It's destabilizing and it's dangerous.
	And this is something which we are addressing.
	And it's also one of the reasons why we now are Increasing the readiness and the preparedness of our forces.
	And we are responding.
	They already started doing that.
	Who?
	The Luxembourg forces?
	No, it's not the right thing.
	We are going to mobilize our forces when we find the bullet.
	And, of course, our air force will be out patrolling when we have a sufficient call to fuel them.
	That's your Luxembourg arm.
	You should just work on that accent.
	It's kind of a Dutch-German thing.
	Yeah, it's very humorous.
	Thank you.
	By making sure that NATO also in the future is an alliance which provides deterrence and protection for all allies against any threat.
	The Russian move comes just days after it was revealed the Pentagon has drafted plans to store heavy weaponry, including tanks in Eastern Europe, for the first time since the end of the Cold War.
	The New York Times reports the plan would see enough weaponry for as many as 5,000 soldiers stored across several countries from Estonia to Bulgaria and Poland.
	Russia has urged the U.S. to abandon the potential move, saying it would violate a 1997 agreement in which NATO pledged not to deploy a major troop force near Russian borders.
	Oh, please.
	Who cares?
	You know the funny thing about that 1997 thing?
	This is a classic Europe-NATO, actually American thing to do.
	In most parts of the world, a handshake is good enough.
	Well, you don't have it in writing.
	You don't have it in writing.
	You said that you wouldn't do this.
	You don't have it in writing.
	Yeah, that's really nice.
	That's great.
	So the Russians decided to do a little counter move.
	Hey, we're going to build some more missiles.
	But you have to listen now.
	You get to listen to the same report from the NewsHour, which has some bonehead at the end, some four-star general I've never heard of, going on and on about, this is why we're, this sort of thing is the reason that we're doing these maneuvers right outside their door.
	But it's so funny because what he's describing, At the very end, you have to listen to the very end of it.
	What he's describing and associating with Russia is exactly what he's doing.
	Russia and NATO traded verbal volleys today over expanding the Russian nuclear arsenal.
	President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday announced the addition of more than 40 intercontinental ballistic missiles, and he talked of overwhelming Western defenses.
	Today, as NATO staged exercises in Poland, its overall commander sharply criticized the Kremlin's actions and words.
	What we have done in this exercise is exactly responding to and our way of being ready for this kind of irresponsible rhetoric.
	We see these kind of words, normal and responsible nuclear powers, don't act like this, don't talk like this.
	Yeah, they don't act like this.
	They're doing the maneuvers.
	You know, the Lithuanian Army website, whatever that means, was hacked!
	No, no.
	I'm pretty sure the whole hack was a hoax.
	But what came out of that is NATO, according to the so-called hack and the so-called hacked emails, NATO is ready to annex Kaliningrad.
	Sorry, Kaliningrad.
	Which would be quite offensive, of course, to the Russians.
	Whether that is true, whether this hack is real, which I doubt, but it's still a message.
	It's messaging either way.
	Yeah, it's messaging.
	Somebody wants somebody else to know what's going on in advance so you're not clueless when it happens.
	And it's also a subtle threat.
	Uh-huh.
	There's a lot of things going on.
	It's pretty, you know, it's the way we do it.
	Now, uh-oh, what happened here?
	I'm handicapped here.
	I had my trackpad broken, so I'm using a mouse.
	Oh, you poor baby, a mouse.
	Those things were never going to make it.
	The cord is too short.
	Yeah, there's no evidence.
	There's no evidence.
	There's no evidence that anyone will ever want those things.
	Well, I don't.
	I want a trackpad.
	I don't want the mouse.
	There you go.
	There's proof right there.
	Dvorak wins again.
	But the cord is too short.
	The computer's on the left, so I now have my arms crossed with my keyboard hand crossed over.
	That's why we need video.
	Yeah, no.
	Putin was presented by the Pope with a peace medal.
	Didn't see this news show up everywhere.
	No, I didn't see that at all.
	Let's see.
	Democracy Now!
	didn't play that.
	Let me see if I can find it.
	No, I only saw a couple articles about it.
	Let me see.
	This mouse blows.
	I can't find a piece of video or audio.
	Francis gave Putin a medallion with the Angel of Peace on it, reminiscent of the same gift he gave to the Palestinian Authority leader Mahmoud Abbas last month.
	Vatican spokeshole, Father Frederico...
	Ten bucks has got a bug in it.
	I'll take your bet.
	And I'll up you.
	Father Frederico Lombardi said, Francis asked Putin to put forward, quote, a great effort to achieve peace in Ukraine, implying the two did indeed discuss the matter.
	They agreed on the importance of rebuilding a climate of dialogue and that all parties commit themselves to implementing the agreements of Minsk.
	You know, when I read these things and you see how media just really is so complicit, sometimes you just gotta wonder.
	Maybe they do map it out of Bilderberg.
	I don't know.
	It's real!
	It's real!
	Bilderberg!
	If they're going to map it out, that's not going to be where they're going to map it out.
	It's just puzzling.
	That is just a drinking club.
	Well, where would they map it out?
	Those guys are all bullcrap artists.
	It's not really important that goes to that thing.
	Really important.
	I mean, I could be wrong.
	Maybe they do map it out there.
	I just don't...
	It just doesn't...
	You don't have the...
	Okay, forget the Bilderberg part, but something's being mapped out.
	This is clear.
	Meanwhile, we have Ukraine.
	It maps itself.
	I think it's self-mapping.
	We've been waiting for a regime change in Ukraine.
	The chocolate king, Poroshenko.
	This guy's got to go.
	He's got to go.
	He also looks like a dummy.
	Now we're back with the IMF saying they will continue to lend money to Ukraine so Kyiv can complete their economic restructuring.
	Here's a...
	I don't have a clip over.
	Fifi Lagarde says, in the event that a negotiated settlement with private creditors not reached in the country determines that it cannot service its debt, the fund can lend to Ukraine consistent with its lending into arrears policy.
	Keyword arrears, because that's where you're going to get it stuck, Ukraine, in your arrears.
	And then we had Yats and Porsche.
	I think, if anything, maybe it means they're going to pay the Russians for all the gas they've been getting.
	They have to.
	They have to.
	So again, everyone's...
	Do you know...
	Clinton said something.
	Hold on, let me find...
	Which one of the Clintons?
	The one that's almost dead.
	Here's Bill Clinton.
	He was talking about...
	This was a Jake Tapper forum at CGI, the Clinton Global Initiative.
	Eb, you know, talking about people seeking favors for donations.
	I can play that later, but then Bill gave an example.
	I'll just give you an example.
	America's always having...
	I love how he laughs.
	Fucking moron, don't you know how it works?
	I'll give you an example.
	Lobby for American-made airplanes because we believe that our competition overseas is more heavily subsidized by government than we do.
	Boeing's less subsidized than Airbus.
	That's what we've always believed in.
	We think it's hard to get a fair deal, so you do this.
	I did it when I was president.
	I thought it was good.
	Good for American jobs, good for American economy, good for the national security of the countries involved.
	So I wouldn't be a bit surprised if some of that wasn't going on when Boeing announced they wanted to invest some money in Haiti to help them recover from their adversity.
	But I don't think That they did it to make America, the government, like them better.
	No, can't imagine.
	But...
	Wow.
	Oh, bless you.
	God bless you.
	Made me sneeze, that guy.
	However, the Le Bourget, the big air show, they call it the Paris Air Show, but it's in Le Bourget.
	I've been to the air show.
	Oh, I've always wanted to go.
	Oh, it's fantastic.
	It's supposed to be fantastic.
	I went there pretending to buy a helicopter.
	You went there to sit in cockpits.
	Yeah, of course.
	Touch buttons and twiddle knobs.
	But I got a free flight over and a free flight back.
	On a private plane.
	Oh, because you're a buyer.
	Well, that's what they thought.
	However, so here we have this issue with Russia.
	Right now, Boeing is ahead in the Boeing versus Airbus wars.
	And I'm pretty convinced, you know, many accidents that happen with certain aircraft.
	We see it going back and forth.
	Oh, Airbus down.
	Oh, Boeing down.
	Oh, Boeing has battery problems.
	Oh, Airbus has software problems.
	Glitches.
	They have now outpaced Airbus with a huge order.
	Can you guess which country ordered a whole bunch of Boeing aircraft?
	Saudi Arabia.
	How about Russia?
	Russia?
	Yeah.
	What?
	Yes.
	Russia has their own aircraft manufacturing operation.
	This is the outfit.
	I'm looking for the name of the company.
	They typically fly Antonovs, but they have ordered 20 747s cargo, transport 747s.
	The 800s, the new ones.
	Yeah, and this puts Boeing ahead.
	But how does this even work?
	We should be outraged by this.
	We can't be doing business with Putin.
	Or can we?
	Well, there's a charade.
	Well, yes.
	My point exactly.
	The whole thing is a...
	And another huge order of 8737s?
	Guess who that goes to?
	Russia.
	No, Chinas.
	Oh.
	Well, China doesn't have its own manufacturing.
	No, but...
	But the Russians do.
	But they're hacking us everywhere, John.
	Russians have like two or three...
	The Chinese are hacking us.
	Why are we doing business with the enemy?
	Yeah, we should just cut them off.
	Yes.
	Yes, the people should be outraged by this.
	But no...
	No, no, no.
	And you know, the funny thing, you hear about the, I mean, Boeing has issues with the 747-800 because they can't seem to sell any passenger planes.
	Oh, and you know who just ordered a new one?
	Who?
	President Obama.
	Oh yeah, I know he did, yes.
	Mr.
	Climate Change.
	Mr.
	Climate Change.
	They need another one.
	They need one of those big jets.
	And actually, they always order two.
	There's always a shadow jet.
	Of course there is, of course.
	They never talk about that in the order.
	As president, you need one for each foot, let's be honest.
	One for each foot.
	So the 380s apparently have zero sales scheduled for 2014 and 2015.
	Yeah, and that is a message right there.
	Russia didn't buy any Airbus.
	So, this goes back to the open mic incident.
	When Obama was talking to Medvedev, you know, I can't do anything until I'm re-elected.
	I'm thinking it's all this!
	No wonder people start to think there's something going on here.
	Some conspiracy.
	No wonder.
	You want to hear the rest of Bill about...
	Yes, I'm listening to that guy.
	I want to hear as much as I can before he dies.
	I know you've said, I've heard you say, that there's no evidence that any of the donors who have given to the Foundation received anything in response from the State Department while Secretary Clinton was there.
	Nobody even suggested or talked about it or thought about it.
	Oh, yeah.
	There's no chance.
	Impossible, I tell you.
	No one even thought about it.
	How do you know, Bill?
	No one even thought about it.
	Well, that's...
	I'm glad you brought that up.
	It's something to consider.
	Hmm, new business model.
	The political season began and somebody said, well, what about this?
	Now, some of the companies that have supported the foundation for years, many of them before she was ever Secretary of State, She was a senator when I left office, so they do this.
	They do philanthropy, too.
	No one has ever asked me for anything or any of that.
	This is an evergreen.
	We need to keep this.
	She wasn't a senator when he left office.
	Oh, really?
	No.
	Huh.
	I'm going to look at the dates.
	Yeah, you look at the date.
	I'll finish the clip.
	Well, let me ask you about that because I think a lot of people...
	Might say, okay, you say there's no evidence that anything was done for them, but can you really say that these companies, these wealthy individuals, these governments, none of them sought anything?
	I love this.
	This is my favorite.
	It's so bright out there.
	Just, no.
	Anything?
	I mean, some of them did have business before the State Department.
	I don't know.
	You never know what people's motives are.
	Well, wait a minute.
	You said you knew what they were thinking.
	Ah, Bill.
	In this case, I'm pretty sure everybody gave the hate in the S. Matthew earthquake.
	He's losing it.
	Well, yes, he is losing it, and that's why it's fun to listen to this and record for posterity.
	What people's motives are, but in this case, I'm pretty sure everybody that gave to Haiti in the aftermath of the earthquake saw what they saw on television.
	Yeah, because there's nothing to gain in Haiti.
	They don't have anything like, I don't know, oil and gold and diamonds and minerals.
	You know, they just went in there to stop the suffering.
	Which is why today we have six houses, thank you Red Cross, and 100,000 people with cholera in tents who are being raped, thank you United Nations Blue Helmets.
	We're horrified and wanted to make a difference.
	You're not saying, you say you don't know if anybody sought any favor, just that there was no...
	No, and I don't think Hillary would know either.
	She, you know, she was pretty...
	She's honest.
	Honest engine.
	And I don't...
	I never saw her study a list of my contributors.
	Take an envelope?
	Really, she never studied a list of the contributors.
	It is now the Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea Clinton Foundation, and she never studied a list of donors?
	Apparently not.
	That's not your fiducial responsibility to the foundation is to do that.
	Don't you think?
	I never saw her...
	Study a list of my contributors, and I had no idea who was doing business before the State Department.
	But what I will say this, she believed that part of the job of the Secretary of State was to advance America's economic interests around the world.
	If she hadn't been doing this economic diplomacy work, nobody would have been doing it.
	But I never thought about whether there was any overlap.
	Okay.
	He's going to come home.
	Hillary's going to hit him with a wet fish.
	Okay, there was a 17-day overlap.
	He's right.
	Oh, okay.
	She got elected when he was going out, and he got kicked out or thrown out of the White House where they stole the furniture.
	Do you remember that?
	Let's try to steal half the furniture in the White House.
	And he left with probably an armoire on January 20th, 2001.
	And she got in on like the 3rd, January 3rd, same year.
	The armoire.
	Nice.
	And then there was, I'll just finish this thing up because I just have a Hillary little bundle of clips.
	Last one.
	This is the guy who I'm probably going to vote for.
	And people may find this surprising, but I think I'm going to put myself behind this guy to become the candidate and to win the election, to be President of the United States.
	I've always wondered if I should be on his side, but now I think I'm really all in.
	I can guess who this is.
	Go ahead.
	Trump.
	Yes, absolutely.
	Here he is with George Stephanopoulos.
	And I just, you know, it doesn't make any difference who's in the White House, but this guy's entertaining.
	He's very entertaining.
	I have two clips and you're done.
	All right, here's the one I like.
	And I like how he slams Stephanopoulos, who, of course, shouldn't be asking any questions about Clinton, since he's a donor in the amount of, what we know, $70,000, and he's not disclosed that, and now he's very sorry, but there we go.
	How about Hillary Clinton?
	What Hillary's got with the emails is, to me, scandalous information.
	She gets a...
	Of course, you shouldn't be talking to me about that in all fairness.
	You shouldn't be asking me those questions, but I don't mind.
	What Hillary's done with the emails is incredible.
	She gets a subpoena, and then after getting the subpoena, she cancels it.
	She cancels everything.
	What she did is illegal.
	What she did is totally illegal.
	I don't know how she gets away with it.
	I love when the chat room says, wow, Adam loses more respect every day.
	People!
	Are you insane?
	What do you want?
	Who do you want to be present?
	Anyone who says that is not actually listening to the show.
	They're just in the chat room.
	That person's a narc.
	Kick him out.
	Get him out.
	Of course, I want to get to your clips.
	I just want to qualify that if Hillary wins, I'll be extremely happy as well for a couple of reasons.
	One, she will push us much closer towards the abyss of the collection.
	The Trilateral Commission will have our new world order.
	Finally, we can get it over with.
	Billions of people will die, and we won't because we're not slated to be voted off the island, but the moronic zombies will.
	That guy in the chat room.
	He's the first to go.
	And of course, after her term, which will only be one term, I think you predicted that then we get kind of like a Ronald Reagan type Republican.
	That's the cycle.
	I'll be able to say to all women everywhere, in fact, you and I will get on that conference call they have on Thursday nights.
	In case you didn't know, all women of the world have a conference call on Thursday night.
	And they talk to each other and they go, yeah, did you bring another man down?
	Let's talk at the table here.
	You know that's what they do.
	And then we can get in the conference call and say, ha ha ha ha, see?
	Didn't make any difference.
	She sent your sons and daughters to die in the sand as well.
	So I'd be fine with her.
	And then on the Republican side, he is a patriot.
	He loves America, his version of it.
	And it's fine.
	And he's funny.
	He's entertaining.
	It's like having a mixture of Joe Biden and...
	John Wayne.
	Yeah, but he's a little smarter than Biden.
	Oh, much smarter than Biden.
	Yeah.
	But I think I'm going to stump for him.
	I like his...
	You know, he's not going to run.
	I mean, I figured out he's not going to run because he's smart enough to know that you don't use your own money.
	Well, didn't he...
	Did he not officially announce?
	Yes, he did.
	And he'll be in it for a while, long enough to get...
	He wants to get into the debate.
	And he's already got enough numbers.
	Because Fox News says they're going to take the top 10 based on polling.
	IQ score.
	It'll be the IQ scores.
	And they're going to put them up there.
	And so he'll be in there to make these kinds of comments.
	And here's a couple of them here.
	Let's start with Trump.
	This is called Trump as described by Amy.
	He's on Amy Goodman.
	She hates him.
	Well, of course.
	Did she make fun of his hair?
	Because that's the only thing people seem to do.
	No, because Democrats aren't that way.
	Oh, yes, they are.
	In a rambling kickoff speech, Trump branded Mexican immigrants as criminals and rapists.
	Mexico sends its people.
	They're not sending their best.
	They're not sending you.
	They're not sending you.
	They're sending people that have lots of problems.
	And they're bringing those problems with us.
	They're bringing drugs.
	They're bringing crime.
	They're rapists.
	And some, I assume, are good people.
	He never mentions that part.
	There's an interesting analogy to this with the influx, certainly the Netherlands, but a lot of Western Europe.
	If you talk to...
	Muslims, if you talk to...
	I didn't record it.
	It was a very short ride.
	I had an Uber the other day.
	And he was from Tunisia.
	And I got him talking, but I was pissed at myself because, man, I got to get in your car again.
	And he didn't have his number.
	Anyway...
	What's the point?
	Oh, the Moroccans who have flooded Western Europe, I think there's now 3 million in the Netherlands country, population 17 million, and they're in government, etc.
	Consistently, politicians like Geert Wilders and a general acceptance under the population is these are the shitty Moroccans, the ones from the hills, the ones that, you know, are goat farmers.
	Sorry.
	Goat farmers.
	Yeah.
	I didn't really say that, did I? You came close.
	Caught myself.
	This is an interesting analogy when it comes to immigration to say that.
	Can I say something about immigration before we move on with the next Trump clip?
	Yeah, sure.
	I figured something out.
	I was not getting sufficient information from the Tech Horny technology podcasts and other types of shows about the most recent Visa database issue.
	Now, you recall last year...
	There was a huge backlog of visas.
	It lasted for weeks and weeks.
	Currently, we have these horrible rapists and drug dealers and some of the nice people camping out at the Mexican border.
	They need to get into California.
	There's work.
	And of course, we know that the Department of Homeland Security is using their own discretionary policies and not sending ice into the fields of California because there's much more egregious violators of the law.
	Obviously, we need these immigrants, temporary workers or full-time, whatever they are.
	We need them to work on the harvest and work in the field.
	So the immigration database is very important.
	This is one of the largest Oracle database installs, possibly one of the largest in the world, billions of records.
	And last year, as I was reading through this and there were some FOIA requests, none of this has ever really been reported properly other than, oh, there's a glitch and therefore the visas can't be handed out in passports.
	There's a glitch, there's a glitch.
	Even Ars Technica is saying glitch.
	It's just disgusting.
	That was, they had upgraded to Oracle 10G, and they were running it on Windows Server 2003.
	And even though it never went offline, the clustering was broken.
	So this should be tech news, but, so they really could only run off of one node, and the load was way too heavy, so it slowed everything down.
	They had to pretty much ration access to the database, and that put everything behind.
	And then they said, oh, you know what, we'll fix this.
	We'll upgrade to Windows Server 2008 and we'll try 11D, I think, which was the completely new Oracle version, untested in the field.
	Yeah, good idea.
	Run that on, you know, a billion record database.
	And database construction and maintenance is, it's voodoo.
	I mean, it's religion, this stuff.
	You cannot get one person who has an identical strategy to another database administrator.
	And while they were doing it, they were going to upgrade and transition everything to Linux.
	Jeez, all these changes at once?
	No, so they started this in, I think, February.
	And the issue at hand now, according to FOIA requests, and they finally put a statement out on the State Department website, it was a hardware issue that brought it down.
	Now, this doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
	First of all, you'd expect, certainly if the transition to Linux is complete, which there's no confirmation of, you would have redundant systems.
	Hardware can fail over to other pieces of hardware.
	I think there's something drastic that has happened here.
	Hmm.
	But that's their claim.
	Catastrophic problem.
	Catastrophic, yes.
	Yeah, it could be.
	And so the Bureau of Consular Affairs will, I guess they'll keep us updated, but if you, they have a little Q&A, a little FAQ. Yeah, that's what you do.
	You rely on technology.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yes, it's the unintended consequences of technology.
	So this is not the same issue as last year.
	What's going on?
	Why can't the department issue visas, passports, other travel documents?
	We are working as quickly as possible to resolve our technical issues.
	We apologize to travelers and recognize that this may cause hardship to individuals waiting for visas overseas.
	What caused this outage?
	Was it a malicious action or hack?
	There's no evidence the problem is cybersecurity related.
	Which is what they should have said.
	We are working urgently to correct the problem and expect the systems to be fully operational again soon.
	And I put the FOIA request into the show notes so you can take a look at it.
	And they're vague, but they say, hey, this is a hardware problem.
	And they expect it to last several more weeks.
	To build a Linux server farm?
	It doesn't make any sense.
	Something is up.
	And...
	We're obviously not being told the truth.
	But this is a big problem for food.
	It's a big problem for students.
	It's a big problem.
	It's a huge problem.
	I agree.
	You can't do this.
	They have to do them by hand.
	Yeah, they can't.
	There was a question about that.
	They can't?
	They used to.
	They can do emergency passports by hand, but there are so many different organizations sucking off this database.
	I mean, it feeds right into the TSA pre-check and the TSA watch list.
	The TSA can't even watch list themselves, so I don't see what they would do.
	So what?
	I know.
	I can't do more than just research and give you what is being told.
	Well, since you're talking about immigration, it's got something to do with it.
	My final point.
	So when somebody says, our immigration system is broken, yeah, you're right!
	Our immigration systems are literally broken.
	Ah, punchline.
	Well, not a punchline.
	Maybe that's what they meant all along.
	No, they didn't mean that.
	But I think you can justify the punchline.
	Well, Trump has an answer for the whole thing.
	How nice.
	Trump and his great wall.
	I would build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me.
	And I'll build them very inexpensively.
	I will build a great, great wall on our southern border, and I will have Mexico pay for that wall.
	Mark my words.
	Nobody would be tougher on ISIS than Donald Trump.
	I'm telling you, Trump for press.
	Build me a wall.
	All this is, when you say that, is...
	This is the plea of an American who has just given up.
	I haven't given up.
	You've given up.
	I'm thinking about the show.
	No, I'm thinking about the show.
	Let's put a joke president in office.
	He couldn't do worse.
	Well, hold on a second.
	I feel that the biggest joke president was the actor, known as Ronald Reagan, and everyone loved him.
	He was great.
	That's because he was in the cycle.
	Yeah, but he was an actor.
	Yeah.
	And a shitty one.
	No, he wasn't.
	I watched some of his stuff.
	That one where he had his legs cut off.
	That's a good movie.
	What movie was that?
	Oh, it was his legs cut off.
	Yeah, he had his legs cut off.
	But it was really a good story, too.
	I can't remember the name.
	Somebody in the chat room should know.
	I'm sure they watch more movies than I do.
	Is that a weapon I see in your hand?
	No, I can't do it.
	I can't do it, John.
	That's not even Ronald.
	That's not even John Wayne.
	Yeah, I'm sorry.
	No good.
	All right.
	I have an evergreen clip that we can figure out how to use it someday.
	An evergreen clip.
	UN roof.
	Okay.
	He cannot hide under the United Nations roof.
	Who cannot hide?
	I don't know.
	Somebody.
	This is...
	Oh, no.
	This was the guy.
	This is the United Nations kind of attorney general or something.
	And he was bitching about these rapists that are out there with the helmet.
	And he says they're criminals.
	They cannot hide under the UN roof.
	So, okay.
	Which I think means the blue helmet.
	Oh, okay.
	Okay.
	Here is, I'd like to revisit the sage for a moment.
	He was so right on.
	No idea how he knew it other than the show was entirely scripted and he was just reading off the prompter.
	The violent crime rate in America's metropolitan areas will spike this summer.
	Bye-bye.
	There you go.
	Right on.
	It's not the first time we've heard either him or somebody else say there's going to be a huge spike this summer.
	And here it is.
	And speaking of Roof, Dylan Storm Roof.
	Could it get any stupider?
	This is the South Carolina church shooting guy.
	Okay.
	That's his name.
	Dylan Storm Roof.
	That's his middle name.
	Storm.
	Storm Roof.
	Yes.
	Dylan Storm Roof.
	Yeah.
	I have a funny clip.
	This is a kid, you know, this has been an ongoing, we're having these little incidents all over.
	Well, this is not that little.
	I'm questioning this to an extreme, and I said that with righteousness.
	I heard that.
	This kid, he looks like Adam Lanza.
	This has got to be MKUltra.
	This has got to be some hypnotized, crazy-ass kid.
	I don't know if they were trying to take out the state senator or whatever.
	I'm missing a lot of things in this story.
	I'm missing the wailing...
	Where's the FBI? Well, the FBI is right there.
	Okay, then we know it's a part of this.
	Oh, yeah.
	I am missing the wailing bystanders, the heartbeat.
	I'm telling you, since Fomey got in, he's not as good at staging these things.
	I mean, the other guy, Mueller, he was a genius, looking back on it.
	Listen to all these little anomalies crop up.
	Listen to this.
	This is an unfathomable and unspeakable act.
	This is the mayor, by the way.
	...filled with hate and with a deranged mind.
	And as Chief Mullen said, this person is dangerous.
	So this is the press conference, and the mayor already knows he's...
	They caught him this morning, but they already know he's filled with hate.
	How does he know that?
	It's immediately labeled as a hate crime.
	And here's the mayor himself on the ground who should be a lot more careful about saying these things.
	He's turning it into...
	He's filled with hate.
	He apparently sat in on this Bible study.
	Do you have a background clip so that people know what you're talking about?
	You just jump right into this, right?
	I'm sorry.
	It's been so in my face everywhere.
	Yeah.
	So nine people were killed in a church, a Baptist church, which would be predominantly black in South Carolina.
	Apparently a famous Baptist church.
	Martin Luther King spoke there in the 60s.
	And this kid walks in and...
	Hate-filled.
	Yeah, hate-filled.
	And they have a little CCTV camera.
	He's got the bowl cut going on.
	The crazy Adam Lanza bowl cut.
	He's wearing a sweater...
	The first reports were a hoodie, but no.
	He's wearing a sweater over a t-shirt.
	But you know how some...
	Have you ever done promotional pictures for the radio station and then the PR girl says, oh, let's all put on the Z100 sweatshirts.
	And they put it on over their t-shirts and over their...
	Over their button-down shirts.
	You know what I'm talking about.
	It looks goofy.
	So the guy has put this on for some reason.
	Then there's reports, oh, he was disguised with a mustache.
	And then the kicker The friggin' kicker, as they put this APB out on him, his license plate number is LBF330. I mean, come on.
	Just stop.
	Just stop it already.
	Stop doing this to me.
	And this, I think, was a faux pas.
	Here is, I believe, the chief of police with a description of who we should be on the lookout for.
	We have members of the Charleston Police Department, the Charleston County Sheriff's Department, SLED, the FBI. SLED? I don't know.
	What's SLED? I don't know.
	What's SLED? It got my attention.
	SLED. Keep playing.
	Many other, the APF and many other federal agencies.
	Many other.
	We have a unified command that is working this investigation.
	We have investigators that are out tracking leads that are coming in, and we will continue to do that until we find this individual who has carried out this crime tonight and bring him to justice.
	We are looking for a white male, approximately 21 years old, sandy blonde hair, And he obviously is extremely dangerous.
	And what we are asking is if anyone in the community has information about this particular individual, that he contact law enforcement immediately.
	Okay, so he's...
	That is the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division.
	Oh, there you go.
	So here we have, he's a fugitive.
	He's on the run.
	We have not seen any photographic evidence yet.
	And he says he's approximately 21.
	And it turns out he is 21 years old.
	Dylan Storm Roof.
	He is 21 years old.
	This guy already knows what's going on.
	And if you look at the kid, you would say 18, 17, maybe 20.
	But to say 21 and he's exactly 21, hmm, okay, fine.
	He's extremely dangerous.
	We don't know anything other than his...
	It's so analogous to Adam Lanza, by the way.
	His dad gave him the gun for Christmas.
	He told one lady, I'm not going to kill you so you can tell everybody what happened here.
	Come on.
	You know...
	Pretty lame.
	Yeah, it is.
	And I hate to be all conspiratorial, but...
	Well, that's a part of the whole bunch of these things going on.
	The one I was following is this Virginia guy, the teenager in Virginia, who was railroaded.
	He was a 16-year-old.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	I have a clip that is a long clip, but I want to play it.
	The clip is...
	Don't start it.
	It's called...
	The clip is Worst Attorney Ever.
	Mm-hmm.
	Now, this is his attorney.
	He was a famous attorney who, there's an article, I looked him up, there's an article about one case he was doing in the Virginia area.
	What's his name?
	Flood.
	Wow, that goes along with the storm roof, doesn't it?
	Yeah, Flood.
	There's a bunch of attorneys named Flood, but this one, apparently in one case, his client started punching him and just beat the crap out of him in the courtroom.
	Nice.
	For something or other.
	But if you listen to this guy, this is the attorney of the kid, and the way the story, now I'm going to deconstruct it before we play the clip so we can listen for this stuff.
	Okay.
	The kid is an introvert 16-year-old who did nothing more, if you even read about the case, than drive his buddy to the airport and then take, according to USA Today or actually CBS News, he drove his buddy to the airport to fly to Turkey so he could join ISIS, brought back a thumb drive to the kid's parents, which had notes in it, and I guess it had a letter saying, "I'm not coming back."
	And then I guess he had a Twitter account where he was saying, well you know great for ISIS.
	Okay so he's 16 which means he's a juvenile.
	He's 17 at trial.
	He was, as soon as he was busted because his parents turned him into a, or had an imam who happened to be working for the FBI. - How coincidental.
	She said, can you help our boy?
	The imam came in and turned him into the...
	The whole thing is just disgusting.
	The kid started cooperating immediately, then was somehow convinced by the attorney and the FBI to plead, I guess, guilty as an adult.
	What?
	Yeah, and then the grounds were, why did he plead guilty as an adult?
	Well, to get a lesser prison sentence.
	And again, here's the attorney going, yeah, if anyone saw the movie Idiocracy, it's the attorney in there.
	The attorney says, oh, he's doing time.
	He's doing time.
	He's going to jail.
	Who is he working for?
	That's what I'm wondering.
	Listen to this clip.
	It's unbelievable.
	Panoramic country ISIS is and has been recruiting young Americans to wage jihad on the United States.
	In Virginia, a 17-year-old honor student pleading guilty to federal terrorism charges after helping a 19-year-old travel to Syria to join ISIS. The FBI agent leading the investigation going on the record just days ago.
	Information comes to us through many sources, and folks in the community reached out and made it known to us that he was online, that he was actively encouraging others to participate in ISIL, and that he had indicated that he intended to travel to Syria to fight at some point in the future.
	17-year-old's attorney, Joseph Flood, joins us.
	Good evening, sir.
	Good evening.
	He's treated as an adult, right?
	17 years old?
	He was transferred into adult court last week.
	Why?
	It's part of a package agreement that requires his cooperation.
	He's been cooperating ever since, actually, before his arrest.
	And as part of the negotiation, he agreed to waive transfer into adult court.
	He has pled guilty to one count?
	A single count of providing material support.
	And what's his exposure in terms of sentencing?
	The maximum sentence is 15 years.
	His guidelines are somewhat higher, but the max is 15.
	Is probation a possibility for him?
	It's a possibility.
	I would say that's a stretch.
	All right.
	So how did he get involved in this?
	I don't think that his involvement is any different than any other child who gets caught up in Internet activities.
	There's all kinds of behaviors encouraged on the Internet.
	And I think like a lot of children, whether it's drugs or sex or...
	Internet chats.
	He got caught up in something that he wasn't prepared for.
	He's a very socially immature, although very bright kid.
	And his isolation, his lack of assimilation made him sort of fertile for...
	Oh man, this is a big war on crazy what's going on here.
	The kid is online too much.
	He's an honor student.
	So he's not a dummy.
	He's on the spectrum.
	He's autistic, of course.
	Something like that.
	Of course, being an introvert, he goes online.
	He feels like a big show.
	I'm going to go fight in ISIL. He's just talking.
	It's all talk.
	He's not doing anything.
	Yeah, throw that kid in jail.
	Apparently, it is against the law to say something like that.
	He provided material support.
	To terrorists.
	Yeah, yeah, he drove him to the airport.
	That's material support.
	Or jihadists who reached out to him and communicated with him.
	He's 17 now, but when this went on, he was 16.
	Yes.
	So he was even younger.
	He was even younger.
	What did his parents, did the parents have any idea this was happening?
	The parents actually enlisted an imam who has a close relationship with the FBI, and they began an aggressive set of interventions.
	It would have been funny if this happened in Denver, but okay, I'll take Virginia.
	Close enough.
	That eventually brought the FBI into contact with Ali.
	They're actually the ones who brought him to the attention of law enforcement.
	Wait a minute!
	I'm sorry I have to interrupt your clip.
	Let me just get this straight.
	So the kid is online and he's playing video games.
	He's an honor student.
	So, of course, you want to be very worried about your child.
	Hey, kid, how'd you do?
	I'm an honor student.
	I'm on the honor of dean's list.
	Great.
	You need to talk to an imam who's an FBI informant because you're on the wrong track.
	No.
	He began an aggressive set of interventions that eventually brought the FBI into contact with Ali.
	They're actually the ones who brought him to the attention of law enforcement, and a process began in which he began cooperating and providing information voluntarily to the FBI. He started providing information right away, folded immediately.
	So why did they turn him into an adult?
	This is Greta, by the way.
	She's a lawyer.
	She's a lawyer, yeah.
	A very famous lawyer.
	And she doesn't do shit about this.
	Providing information voluntarily to the FBI. Why is he cooperating?
	Because he's had a change of heart or because he doesn't want to go to prison for a long time.
	He's going to go to prison, and I think everyone recognizes that.
	I think that the line between fantasy and reality for a 17-year-old kid who spends a lot of time on the Internet is not always clear.
	We're coming to lock your kids up, parents.
	Life repercussions of this became clear.
	Not just the potential sanctions in the criminal justice field, but the impact that he's having on his family, and in particular his younger sister.
	It had a significant wake-up for him, and he is actively cooperating.
	There's an 18-year-old he helped get to Syria to join ISIS, or 19, I guess now.
	Any idea where that American is?
	We believe he was last communicating from Turkey, did not communicate with my client, but he stopped in Turkey.
	He had flights to go to Greece, but he stopped in Turkey.
	And the assistance that Ali provided was to ride in a car to the airport with him and put him in touch with someone in Great Britain.
	Oh, man.
	How many years is he getting for that?
	15 years?
	15, yeah.
	This is a 16-year-old kid, and most kids at that age are just fantasizing anyway.
	This is another one of these operations.
	This is a disgusting story.
	All they have to do is go and say, here's what we're doing.
	You're going to get in trouble if you keep this up.
	Stop it.
	And that would be the end.
	That's called law enforcement.
	You're enforcing the law.
	You're not just arresting people left or right or setting them up or bringing in the imam.
	And you're an important part of community building and helping the citizens.
	This was, I think, the Muslim community should be up in arms about this.
	But of course, everyone lays low now because they're afraid that they're going to get nailed, which I would be too.
	Thinking about it, I wouldn't say anything.
	Let them rot in jail.
	Juvenile.
	Yeah, and he's a kid until he's 21.
	Well, 18 is when you try it as an adult.
	Well, he's not 18 either.
	Cancer viruses in the vaccines, pesticides by design in the GMO, chemtrails, all of it.
	We're being murdered by a soft kill op!
	There you go!
	I have a backgrounder from CNN on this, which I'd like to play.
	On us being soft murdered?
	Yes.
	The soft kill op.
	No, on the problems we now have with all of our kids, this is going to come down to a kid interventionist program that will be implemented in Common Core, probably.
	God knows what's going to happen.
	Because we have sympathizers.
	These are sympathizers, these kids, and they provide materiel support.
	Tonight, a U.S. intelligence official tells CNN there are strong concerns in the intelligence community about a surge in the number of ISIS sympathizers inside the United States.
	The FBI is struggling to identify active consumers of ISIS propaganda.
	Consumers of ISIS propaganda?
	Are they purchasing this?
	What, they're buying t-shirts?
	Yeah.
	Hoodies?
	Bunker stickers?
	If it wasn't for the government, those black t-shirts would be best.
	Dynamite.
	Dynamite.
	Probably second to the Steph Curry jersey.
	And not only that, the ISIS song would be top of the charts.
	We could have Tiesto do a remix.
	Yeah.
	It would be fantastic.
	Yeah, well, that's not going to happen.
	Yeah, I should play this.
	It's a mercantile opportunity mist.
	I should...
	I'll see if I can find the song and play it under this bit here.
	There's hundreds, maybe thousands.
	It's a challenge to get a full understanding of just how many of those passive followers are taking action.
	The passive followers.
	People inside the United States who have been known to post pro-ISIS messages on social media.
	Pictures of themselves wearing ISIS logos.
	There's this sympathizer who displayed an ISIS logo on a phone just feet from the White House with a tweet.
	We are here, America, near our target.
	It's done to kind of play off that ISIS is everywhere.
	They can reach their enemies.
	Many of them, analyst Philip Smythe says, could be posers.
	But experts point out, there's been a spike.
	Posers?
	They're all posers.
	I love, I love, if you're not, if you're not real, you're a poser.
	This is fantastic.
	...in ISIS activity inside the United States recently.
	At least 32 court cases over the past two years of people in the U.S. accused of trying to provide material support to ISIS. Surveillance of ISIS suspects inside the United States is at an all-time high.
	U.S. officials say ISIS operatives overseas entice supporters on social media and use encrypted communications to encourage them to take action.
	You can see where this is going.
	You know where it's going.
	It's about to get a lot better.
	Analyst David Gartenstein Ross, who tracks the radicalization of Americans, Worries about the next step.
	How do you track the radicalization of Americans?
	Do you do that by trolling Twitter or something?
	The thing I would look for is whether ISIS is playing a role beyond just general support, but actually trying to influence targets, trying to influence the kind of action that already radicalized supporters would have taken.
	This guy can't breathe.
	Something's stuck in his nose, that guy.
	But Gartenstein Ross says when ISIS operatives start picking targets, it makes them more vulnerable to being picked up by law enforcement.
	One other thing that could help law enforcement here, analysts say that Twitter has started to aggressively take down the profiles of Twitter users who express support for ISIS in the U.S. And when a profile is disabled, every message that person's posted is deleted.
	Still Wolf monitoring every potentially pro-ISIS account, every tweet, every posting, every message.
	That's a monumental challenge for law enforcement.
	They're still trying to keep up.
	We are here, hashtag America, near our hashtag target.
	Soon.
	You know, it makes no sense for Twitter to be removing these accounts because this is how we find them.
	Didn't we find the guy and we bombed the command and control center because he was taking selfies and posting it to Twitter?
	Yeah.
	It's counterproductive to take this stuff down.
	I'm going to turn the song off.
	All right.
	We could never hear the song.
	Oh, I could.
	Well, I'm glad you're enjoying the show.
	Everybody else could hear it.
	It's a Skype thing.
	It's a Skype thing.
	Okay.
	Now we have a new guy who is in charge of the Homeland Security Committee.
	This is...
	I believe he is following Mike Rogers, the disc jockey.
	No, this is the Congressional, not the Senate.
	I believe so.
	Well, let's see.
	Michael McCall?
	Well, he's a Republican and he's from Texas.
	He's not in my district because I would vote this guy out.
	This is the most disgusting and he knows even less.
	Was it Rogers who we followed up?
	Rogers was the guy who was the head of the House Intelligence Committee.
	Oh, Intelligence Committee.
	This is Homeland Security Committee, so apparently it's different.
	I have not seen this guy, Mike McCall, but he's showing up everywhere, and this is a meme fest, this guy.
	He puts on his suit in the morning, and his jacket is just filled with memes, with little cards hanging off of shit to say on CNN. Well, it's just part of it.
	Sorry?
	The one I can find is Michael McCall of Kentucky.
	Hmm...
	I thought he was from...
	Well, maybe I'm wrong.
	I thought he was from Texas.
	Hmm.
	Okay.
	Could be wrong.
	Well, it's just part of a conspiracy.
	We arrested an individual the other day connected to this plot regarding an IED blown up over the bridge.
	Now, this is a second co-conspirator.
	There's another one that we possibly think is out there as well.
	I love how he's talking conspiracy theories.
	And conspiracies.
	That's weird.
	This is kind of a new phenomenon over the internet.
	The terrorists now have a new generation adapting to the internet to not only recruit, train, teach how to make, in this case, pressure cooker bomb.
	No, no.
	The initial report was a crockpot bomb.
	Did you catch that?
	But I don't have anyone saying it on...
	Crockpot bomb?
	Yeah, the reports everywhere.
	I think anything cooked in a crockpot tends to be a bomb.
	In the morning...
	But also give directives over Twitter accounts to thousands of Americans who are already here in the United States.
	When I talk to Homeland and FBI officials, as I did this morning, they consider this internet terrorism gone viral to be now one of the biggest threats to the homeland.
	Internet terrorism.
	Oh, it's a threat to the homeland.
	We're under threat.
	This guy is from Texas.
	It's Michael McCall, C-A-U-L. Oh, yeah.
	And he looks like kind of a smiling guy.
	He looks like a congressman.
	Internet terrorism gone viral.
	Do you think that ISIS called up their agency, their PR company, and said, well, in fact, we can do it right now.
	It's very easy.
	Yeah, Hill and Nolten.
	Yes!
	Alaw Akbar!
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	Alaw Akbar!
	I want...
	We want here.
	ISIS here.
	ISIS here.
	Oh, never mind.
	I can take it.
	ISIS. Sometimes ISIS. Yeah, okay.
	What about it?
	Alaw Akbar!
	Yeah, go on.
	We want viral.
	Viral?
	Can you make us viral?
	Oh, yeah.
	No problem.
	Viral terror?
	Uh-huh.
	Yeah, we can do that.
	What cost?
	Oh, let's see.
	We usually charge $100,000 per video.
	I can't get the accent right.
	I don't know why.
	I'm stuck.
	I'm not good today.
	Because I did this morning, they consider this internet...
	Huh?
	It's the Dutch accent.
	What are we doing now?
	I can't do any accents today.
	I'm off.
	Forget it.
	I'm off.
	Terrorism gone viral to be now one of the biggest threats to the homeland.
	Tell us more about the...
	Terrorism gone viral is the greatest threat to the homeland.
	Dark space of the internet.
	Dark space!
	Woo!
	John?
	Dark YouTube?
	It's the dark space.
	It's the dark space.
	Dark YouTube.
	This is the new one.
	The dark space.
	They're just dropping these memes and they don't even know what dark...
	There is no dark...
	There's the dark web.
	Well, no, there's the deep web.
	The deep web.
	There's the deep web.
	There's the dark web.
	There is a dark web.
	But that didn't work.
	See, that didn't catch.
	Dark space.
	I think this is what they mean when they...
	Oh, the closet.
	The closet's the dark space.
	The biggest threats to the homeland.
	Tell us more about the dark space of the internet which you were briefed on earlier today.
	Which apparently Tapper was briefed on as well, otherwise he wouldn't use that term.
	...that people are able to communicate with each other on the internet in places that law enforcement doesn't know about or can't get to.
	What exactly is the challenge here?
	Let me think.
	Could it have anything to do with, I don't know, encryption or something?
	Well, the challenge is that we know the terrorists out of ISIS are now communicating with potential terrorists in the United States over the Internet in a dark space, in a secure com.
	Hey, John, let's get in the dark space.
	I have something to tell you.
	It's secure com.
	Come in here.
	Come into my dark space.
	I want to talk to you.
	I want to hear the secure com.
	Click on first.
	Let me roll that back a second.
	...in a secure com platform.
	A secure com platform.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	The dark space in a secure com platform.
	My mind is...
	Technical terms.
	My mind is doing flip-flops.
	Secure com platform that law enforcement, FBI, Homeland, can't get access to even if we had a...
	Scramblers.
	Yeah, that's what it used to be called, scramblers.
	...that law enforcement, FBI, Homeland, can't get access to, even if we had a court order.
	Even if they have a court order.
	He's talking about encryption.
	Yeah.
	Even if we had a court order, a wiretap, we still cannot see these communications.
	So they're operating in darkness.
	And it's really imperative that we fix the system to shine a light on the terrorists.
	The metaphors are fabulous.
	We need to fix the system to shine a light in the dark space where the secure comm is being perpetrated.
	Otherwise, I think Americans are very vulnerable today with these communications going on in dark space.
	That is a great challenge right now.
	We've been very fortunate, Jay, to stop the Garland attacks, to stop this guy in Arizona, aspirational goals.
	Was the Garland attacks stopped by the people that put on the event, not anyone spying on anyone?
	Well, it certainly wasn't stopped by the authorities.
	No.
	Not by the FBI. Private security.
	That's right.
	Super Bowl Boston with a police officer.
	Super Bowl Boston?
	What's Super Bowl Boston?
	I don't know.
	Jay, to stop the Garland attacks, to stop this guy in Arizona, aspirational goals against the Super Bowl Boston.
	Do you think he means marathon?
	Yeah, Super Bowl.
	There's no stadium in Boston.
	Here in Texas, everything looks like a Super Bowl to us, son.
	Even that Boston thing.
	With a police officer, and now just most recently in New York, but I believe as we approach the 4th of July, we're probably going to see a lot more of these attacks, small-scale.
	Oh, small-scale attacks, 4th of July.
	This is the latest way they're doing this.
	They're screwing up our six-week cycle.
	They stretch it out for about three weeks of action.
	And the date, by the way, for the next nexus is July 15th.
	For anyone interested.
	Well, he's saying July 4th.
	Well, that would be fine because of the way they're doing it.
	Now, they don't do the big event anymore.
	They do all these little ones, and they scatter them around, and then it kind of peaks on the 15th, and then that would be the median, and then it settles down.
	They have a bunch of meetings, and they talk about this, and they scare the public, and then they go back to the next few weeks.
	I don't know if he realized it, but he really put together a good little slogan here.
	Operational goals against the Super Bowl, Boston, with a police officer, and now just most recently in New York.
	But I believe as we approach the 4th of July, we're probably going to see a lot more of these attacks, small scale.
	I think it should be, mic check, mic check, mic check, mic check, mic check.
	Hello?
	Yeah?
	Mic check.
	4th of July!
	We're all going to die!
	Fourth of July, we're all gonna die.
	Beautiful.
	Ramping up.
	Congressman, how many Islamic extremists or suspected extremists do you think the FBI and other law enforcement agencies are tracking right now?
	Dozens?
	Hundreds?
	Is it actually different than it's been since 9-11?
	It's very different.
	Core Al-Qaeda had very spectacular attacks, very long-term range attacks.
	ISIS is very high volume over the internet, trying to activate people in the United States.
	Small-scale attacks.
	We also have the foreign fighters.
	Hundreds of Americans have traveled to the region.
	Many have come back.
	And we have about 30,000 foreign fighters, 5,000 Western passports.
	That's a concern from the foreign fighter standpoint.
	But this new phenomenon, this new threat of terrorism, Jake, is what I think has really got officials worried the most because, you know, with a Twitter account, and I know I've got five teenagers, you can activate thousands of people on these Twitter accounts, and that's precisely what they've done.
	Activate?
	Nice!
	They've got a bunch of kids on the hypnotic trance?
	Yes!
	They're going to be activated?
	Yes, yes.
	They have thousands of followers.
	They're going to be activated.
	I'm reminded of that sketch that I think is one of the best sketches of Saturday Night Live ever did where they had these cells and they moved into middle class America and they had jobs and then they got activated.
	And they're trying to get out of it because they're both married to gorgeous women and they got kids.
	It was very funny.
	I ruined the pace.
	No, it's okay.
	It was pretty much the end of the clip anyway.
	And I guess what I like is the new meme, Dark Space.
	Shine a light on the dark space where the secure comms cannot be broken.
	That's a jingle.
	That's got a jingle.
	Shine a light on the dark space.
	Something like that.
	Some rap, maybe?
	Well, these things do work.
	You know, jingles work.
	That's why I said, three more days till Halloween, Halloween, Halloween.
	I've never heard that.
	Three more days till Halloween, silver shamrock.
	You've never seen that?
	I've never heard that.
	Halloween.
	Have you seen the movie Halloween?
	No.
	Oh yeah, the original movie, Halloween.
	The first one.
	So there's the evil corporation that has this jingle and the kids are all in front of their TVs and they said, three more days until Halloween.
	And the kids go, and their eyes go, and you hear this cheesy sound effect.
	You see like the spinning thing, the spinning wheel in their eyes.
	I don't remember that.
	Yeah.
	All right, what have we got here?
	Well, I think I should thank you for your courage right now and say, in the morning to you, John C. N. N. Dvorak.
	You got me, C. N. N. That's good.
	You got me flat-footed, but in the morning to you, Adam Curry, in the morning all ships to sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
	In the morning to everyone in the chat room, except for the narc, noagendastream.com.
	And in the morning to our artist, Martin JJ. It's been a runoff between Nick the Rat and Martin JJ. Martin JJ is really rocking it.
	And Martin JJ, when he first started, he sucked.
	Yeah, no.
	Amen.
	Fist bump.
	He does, he did...
	Yes, he sucked.
	And it was strange.
	It reminded me, this is kind of the way the brain works.
	All of a sudden, it's like you get it.
	And the next thing you know, you're just hitting it out of the park every time.
	You don't suck anymore.
	And that's why people should always stick to it.
	Stick to your dreams, people.
	If you have a dream...
	Keep your feet on the ground and reach for the stars.
	Man, stick to your dreams.
	He did a fantastic piece with an employee of the No Agenda Shampoo Company collecting some urine from the camel for our new product.
	A fantastic piece.
	Which is another company we will not start, but someone somewhere is going to do it and we're going to be very sad about it.
	Okay.
	Noagendaartgenerator.com.
	Thank you very much for all of your submissions.
	It's highly appreciated.
	Yeah, and I have a, whoever sent the first amount of money and has written such a long note that it fills the entire screen.
	Yeah, it's Ryan Thompson.
	I can't find his name.
	Ryan Thompson from Grand Junction, Colorado.
	Yeah, how much did he donate?
	I don't have that either.
	$750.
	This donation should complete my quest to knighthood.
	I got it.
	I got to read.
	I just don't have the info because it goes right to the bottom and boom, I'm done.
	Okay, this donation should complete my quest tonight.
	I tried to get official accounting for my previous donation, but unfortunately PayPal doesn't keep records that far back yet.
	Well, actually, they do.
	I think they do.
	They do for us.
	I don't know what they own for you.
	My very first donation, anyway, goes on.
	To honor Michael Crichton after his death.
	Even I bought your attention.
	You brought attention to the book State of Fear and the fact that he probably got two to the head for writing it.
	I would simply...
	I would simply like to be known as Sir Ryan Thompson.
	I've been listening since my college days multiple years ago.
	Now I'm a social studies teacher and I'm able to hit my students in the mouth regularly.
	You guys, didn't we read this note before?
	Yeah, I read it as a part of just some cool stuff.
	How we are influencing the world and saving the world one child at a time.
	You mentioned it and I said...
	His donation came in late.
	Just read it.
	It's nice.
	It's good.
	All right.
	As a teacher, I got a lot of emails and letters for different organizations that want me to buy their products, but for my classroom, one such group caught my eye, and I thought, you might be interested.
	They are called Negative Population Growth, and they can be found at npg.org.
	I have a number of free educational resources, including readings, posters, and assignments that are all geared toward teaching kids about the evils of having children.
	Yeah.
	Because robots will take over.
	Yeah.
	And when I got their letter, of course, I requested every free product they have.
	One such gem is a poster of the world that gives a projected population stats for the next 100 years.
	And it's intended to scare kids into thinking that all is lost and only government intervention can solve the problem.
	Which is, yeah.
	Thank you guys for everything.
	Yeah, government intervention.
	Kill your people.
	Thank you guys for everything you do this year.
	I'm taking new classes, which include civics and modern U.S. history.
	I'm teaching new classes.
	Johnny, are you okay?
	Take a lozenge or something.
	I'm going to have to take a lozenge.
	Baby, eat a TikTok.
	I've got dry larynx.
	My wife and I are currently in the process of moving to a new town here in Colorado where we will both be starting new teaching jobs this fall.
	Could I get some general home buying, home selling, new job karma?
	Also, if it's not too much trouble, I would like to hear my favorite jingle of all time, to the gate, to the gate, to the climate gate.
	So he also wants jobs karma.
	Okay.
	Yeah, we can do all that for you.
	And thank you very much, and I look forward to the ceremony when we bring you into the round table of the Knights and Dames.
	To the gate, to the gate, to the payment gate.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's go, jobs!
	You've got karma.
	That is a nice sequence.
	We've never played that sequence.
	I like that.
	No, that's a good one.
	Mario Salvagna, I think.
	In Little Britain, Ontario, Canada.
	33333.
	Happy 40th for him.
	It's a long way down the other side of that hill.
	Love your family and friends.
	Thank you.
	Love you too.
	Very straightforward message.
	Anonymous, $330.
	To give some time to think, here's a heads up.
	Please each pick a jingle of your liking.
	Okay, I'll pick one as soon as I'm done reading the note.
	Great show.
	I need some general karma since we have a new resource due in the next few weeks.
	And we have a family member with cancer.
	It would be great if he can fight it long enough to meet his second great-grandchild next year.
	He lives in Germany, Deutschland, and he doesn't see or don't.
	Now, we don't see ourselves traveling again to Germany with two little ones until then.
	By the way, it's very easy to travel.
	Little ones are easier to travel with when they get to be three.
	You've got to put a leash on them.
	Yep.
	Although our first baby got us in the pre-check line three out of four times, we have flown with him book blog suggestion based on recent discussion on fudging the global...
	What?
	What?
	What is your problem?
	I can't...
	Oh, there's no period here after him, and so I'm reading it as one sentence, and it doesn't make sense.
	You're doing an Amy Goodman.
	Well, if I was reading from a prompter, yes.
	And I am.
	Kind of.
	Okay, here's a suggestion based on your recent discussion on fudging the global warming data.
	Hockey Stick Illusion by A.W. Montfort, although a lot of scientific details, it reads like a good thriller, and it's really outrageous.
	Uh, www.climateaudit.org.
	Keep going and please each pick a jingle of your liking.
	What do you want?
	Okay, let me look.
	I have a list now because I could never...
	Oh, okay.
	I got the F cancer in there for him.
	Uh, well then I can't use this one.
	A shape-shifting Jew.
	Oh, that is indeed a fabulous one.
	Okay, one by John, one by me, and then an F cancer.
	Come on, everybody!
	For the magical shapeshifting Jews, step right this way!
	Roll up, roll up for the shapeshifting Jews.
	Roll up, the magical shapeshifting Jews.
	A little illustration of magical shapeshifting juice.
	It's such an agglomeration.
	The magical shapeshifting juice. The magical shapeshifting juice.
	Boo-chalkalaga.
	Boo-chalkalaga!
	Go! Go!
	You've got karma.
	Nice.
	Alright, on to the associate executive producers, beginning with Jean-Claude Schmid, which I just think is a great name.
	Here's Detective Jean-Claude Schmid.
	Yes.
	Nice.
	Night of the Time Warner cables.
	Night of the Time Warner.
	Oh, yes, I've met him.
	I know exactly who this is.
	Oh, you know who he is.
	Mm-hmm.
	Please de-douche me.
	I can also get a Don't Eat Me, Hillary, Lizzie, Shut Up, Slave, Little Girl, Yay.
	Thanks, and keep up the great work.
	Hold on a second.
	He wants Don't Eat Me, Shut Up, Slave, and then Little Girl, Yay?
	Yes.
	Okay, hold on a second.
	And here we go.
	Where's the Shut Up, Slave?
	Don't Eat Me, Hillary Clinton!
	Shut Up, Slave!
	Yay!
	You've got karma.
	Not bad.
	By the way, I cracked up.
	I must have 50 emails in my inbox saying, please post the NA Funnies to our extravaganza.
	People really want to hear this.
	And I was listening to it, and at a certain point we're talking about doing No Agenda Kids.
	Do you remember that?
	Yeah, that was recently.
	Yeah, but do you remember what you said?
	No, I can't imagine.
	Well, it was so good.
	It was like, hey kids, do you know your teacher's a whore?
	Yeah, I remember that.
	So we're not going to post that, right?
	We're keeping that.
	We are keeping that.
	It's going to be a whole show.
	No, we're not posting it.
	We're going to run it.
	When?
	Before the end of the year, I said.
	Okay, all right, all right, good.
	Well, you're in charge of reruns, so.
	Reruns.
	Down to Ashton Banta in Springfield, Missouri.
	$200.33.
	So donations from my boyfriend...
	Ashton is a girl.
	Bo Brown.
	There's another good name.
	Bo Brown.
	Governor.
	Who is undoubtedly the best guy in the world.
	We want to donate more, but we do what we can afford.
	He is your guy named Ben, and I am a social worker.
	Also, John, you have talked about being annoyed with cyclists in the past.
	Bo is an avid cyclist.
	He regularly discusses and practices proper cycling etiquette, safety rules, etc.
	He's been rigorously training for Rag Bra, a bicycle race across the state of Iowa.
	And no agenda is his listening preference during these rides.
	Go Team H.J.
	Nice.
	Anyway, I wanted you to know that cyclists who obey the rules are also extremely annoyed by cyclists who disobey the rules.
	Thank you for the job karma and fuck cancer from last year.
	Bo's mom is a cancer free.
	There you go.
	Work for her.
	And we all have solid jobs.
	Can we have a fuck cancer for Bo's mom?
	Jeez.
	You've got karma for all the No Agenda listeners and an amen fist bump.
	And you're on the birthday list.
	Absolutely.
	Amen.
	Fist bump.
	You've got karma.
	It works, apparently.
	Are both Bo and Ashton both on the...
	I can check.
	Ashton, by the way.
	Ashton, not Ashton.
	Ashton.
	Are they both on the list?
	I'm going to check.
	I have to do the left-handed mouse thing.
	John S. Kristeck in Berkeley, California, waving out the window.
	Baltimore, John of North Berkeley here.
	More jobs karma, please.
	I screwed the pooch last week and call it work karma.
	And please...
	Okay.
	It's what he says.
	I'm just quoting.
	Please shit on my brain with a little bit of Reverend L. Sharpton.
	Okay.
	I was looking.
	They're both on the list.
	Yeah, good.
	That's the good news.
	Any particular...
	Well, you know, my favorite.
	I mean, of course, we found there's a couple new ones on that show that the guy put together.
	Now, what's your favorite?
	My favorite is still The Much.
	Oh, Resist We Much?
	Yeah.
	Okay, anything else?
	Is that it?
	Just The Resist We Much a bit?
	It's my all-time favorite.
	No, I mean, for the request here.
	Yeah, just once one, and then the...
	Karma.
	Karma.
	But Resist We Much.
	We must and we will much about...
	That.
	Be committed.
	You've got karma.
	Okay.
	I think that's it.
	Yeah, that is all there is.
	And I want to remind people we have another show coming up.
	Soon.
	Sunday.
	Sunday.
	Dvorak.org slash NA will fill the bill and keep us going for another week.
	Yes, and for those of you who are new to the program, we run these credits like Hollywood where executive producers are people who finance it.
	Associate executive producers are the people who finance it and are lackeys of the executive producers or friends.
	You get all kinds of benefits in Hollywood.
	Here we read your note and we thank you, and of course you know that you are helping yourself and humanity in general.
	But the credits are real.
	You can use them anywhere.
	Credits are accepted, including your LinkedIn account.
	And of course we need all the help we can get going out there into the wide universe and propagating our formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Hey, citizens.
	Shut up, slave.
	Shut up, slave.
	All right.
	Where do you want to go?
	You sent out a newsletter with a couple of teases.
	Well, you already did the Pope.
	Mm-hmm.
	Did the Pope.
	And what was the other one?
	Well, the other one is the crazy white woman being a black woman.
	Oh, yeah.
	I got some stuff on this.
	Me, too.
	Me, too.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, because I have a different conclusion than you, I'd bet.
	I'll tell you what I wanted the conclusion to be.
	Okay.
	Because I saw this come in on the newsletter, and I was like, oh, man, Dvorak's got some kind of theory.
	He's got an idea.
	What could it be?
	What I hoped it was is that the hack of the Office of Personnel and Management had exposed this woman as a spy to Who had infiltrated the NAACP and they decided to throw it on to full-on crazy in order to obfuscate the fact that she was clearly spying on the NAACP. And I reached this conclusion after I heard,
	because there's a couple of videos of her doing stuff in the past, she shows up in Baltimore after the, not Baltimore, it was a Baltimore-Ferguson.
	I don't know.
	Baltimore.
	She shows up in Baltimore and there's a protest going on.
	She walks right up to the guy running the protest and says, hey, I'm the president from the NAACP in Washington state.
	Do you mind if I just if I address the crowd for a moment?
	And when you hear this, this woman is good.
	So I don't know everyone here, but I am from the other Washington.
	I just flew in this morning from Spokane, Washington.
	I'm representing the Alaska, Oregon, Washington NAACP. I'm the president of the Spokane NAACP in Washington State.
	And this is a situation that's affecting us over in that state as well.
	So I wanted to join with you in support today.
	We just marched in Pasco, Washington, where a youth had You know, a rock a little bigger than this and was shot and killed in the street.
	Antonio Zambrano Montes.
	Yes.
	And we are supporting his mother.
	The cops have been on paid vacation for three months.
	And four people were arrested the last time we marched.
	They won't let us march in the street.
	Two people were arrested this month when we marched.
	They just had their trial yesterday.
	And on Wednesday this week, A 37-year-old black man who has seven children just died in police custody in Spokane, Washington.
	And this is something that is affecting us nationwide, and if there is no justice, there will be no peace.
	Absolutely.
	No justice!
	No peace!
	No racist!
	Police!
	No justice!
	No peace!
	No racist!
	Police!
	She's good.
	She is good.
	I conclude from this, she's an agent of change.
	It has to be.
	I don't see any of it this way.
	Well, hold on.
	I want to play one more backgrounder.
	Historical clip.
	It's just funny.
	This is her on a radio interview.
	And she's disgusted.
	She's disgusted by...
	Will you listen?
	Exodus.
	Yeah, the new Exodus.
	It's Christian Bale.
	He looks like he'd fit right in.
	Right, another Charlton Heston.
	And that's actually, again, something that's connected to curriculum.
	So a lot of people might go to that film.
	Hopefully nobody goes to that film.
	We need to boycott that film from my perspective because it's mis-education, mis-representation.
	What film?
	She's talking about her issue here is white actors playing roles of black people.
	Right.
	Offensive to the people that actually were living during that time and also to people today.
	It's robbing and shredding ancestry and history.
	But if people go to that without knowing, and again just with the typical public education system, then you're going to Probably think that that's how it happened because, yes, Greece did invade Egypt at some point, so it must have been during that time, right?
	And all the darker-skinned people must be villains.
	That's pretty natural.
	We accept that under the white supremacy tradition and the lighter-skinned folks rule in our upper class.
	And it's just really disturbing that this is still something...
	Perpetrated.
	That's right.
	Perpetrated.
	We're perpetrating the false narrative of white people playing black people in movies.
	Very good.
	I could almost give you Clip of the Day.
	I don't know why I don't, but I'm not going to.
	But isn't it Borderline Clip of the Day?
	It's definitely, oh yes, it's Borderline Clip of the Day.
	Oh, thank you.
	Totally.
	Borderline Clip of the Day.
	I love that.
	Borderline clip of the day.
	Borderline clip of the day.
	We should have more than one of those a day.
	So now I'm still thinking, what could it be?
	And I came up with a couple of theories, and I'll run them by you and see if you like them.
	So there's the entire trans issue of trans, because, of course, these memes collided.
	We have the transgender issue.
	Caitlyn Bruce Jenner.
	We have the trans racism and the people living as being accepted.
	You know, I identify as a black person.
	I identify.
	So I'm not quite sure who launched this or why or how, but of course it's You can also gear it towards the president.
	The president identifies as black.
	He could have easily identified as white.
	He has a white mother.
	So, you know, it is...
	I think it is melting the minds of complete liberal...
	Liberals who really just want to love the whole world and everything and are unrealistic about it.
	And this could be used against the president.
	That's another thing it could do.
	But it's somewhere in that area, I believe.
	What is your conclusion?
	Well, I'm surprised you didn't bring up another possibility, which is this is a meta-promotion for the new movie coming out, Black Like Me.
	Oh, crap.
	I don't know how you missed that one.
	Well, I was looking at another promotion.
	We'll get to that later.
	I focused on the wrong promotion.
	But let's go with what I think is really going on here.
	I mean, I think that may be part of it, but let's play a couple of clips, and I won't use them all, but let's play.
	For one thing, she was busted by her parents, and everything she says on all these shows, she went on Matt Lauer, talked with Matt Lauer.
	And by the way, her parents were available for an interview an hour after she announced that she was resigning.
	Yes, which makes it look like a setup, and I believe it is, and I believe the parents are in on this.
	And I think what we're witnessing here, and I'll explain why after we play a couple of clips, and one of them is interesting because there was a lawsuit.
	She went to...
	Yes.
	The Blacks College, and she sued him.
	And let's play Rachel on the Today Show lawsuit and what happened to her based on this report.
	The reasons for my full tuition scholarship being removed and my teaching position as well, my TA position, were that other people needed opportunities.
	Isn't TA teacher's assistant?
	Yeah, TA. Yeah, isn't that someone who gets the teacher coffee?
	No, no, no.
	A teaching assistant teaches classes.
	All right.
	That other people needed opportunities, and you probably have white relatives that can afford to help you with your tuition.
	And I thought that was an injustice.
	Mm-hmm.
	All right.
	Now, that's like the story.
	That's the official story after, I don't know, her handlers or somebody told her to tell this story.
	Yeah.
	The teaching assistant, just to clarify, if you have a very popular professor in a big university and you have a...
	A class of 500 people.
	The class gets, and he's lecturing to the 500 people.
	They have maybe twice a week or once a week.
	Then you go to another class.
	It's the same course, but it's a small class of 20, 30 people.
	And you have the teaching assistant teaching you what he's lecturing you about.
	So you can ask questions, which you can't normally do.
	Roger that.
	Roger that.
	So that's her on the lawsuit, and she also has a couple bullshit stories that she likes to tell.
	She did have a funny thing about blackface.
	Play the Rachel on today's show about blackface.
	I have a huge issue with blackface.
	This is not some...
	Freak, birth of a nation, mockery, blackface performance.
	This is on a very real, connected level.
	I've actually had to go there with the experience.
	Not just a visible representation, but with the experience.
	Okay, now.
	With the experience.
	She says she has the experience.
	She claims that she did this and that.
	It's all bullcrap.
	And the giveaway to me was this particular clip and the words she used in that last clip.
	This clip gave it away to me and nobody else discusses this anywhere.
	This is the Nightline lawsuit clip.
	This is the real reason behind the lawsuit that she filed against the college.
	There was an ironic moment on her long road to blackness.
	In a lawsuit filed in 2002 when she was then known as Rachel Moore and was a graduate student at Howard University, she accused the historically black school of discriminating against her, claiming that the removal of her artwork was motivated by a discriminatory purpose to favor African-American students.
	The lawsuit was dismissed.
	She now says she's transracial.
	Oh, hold on a second.
	She's a frustrated artist.
	I presume at that point she identified as white?
	Yes.
	How come no one's talking about this?
	I don't know.
	Because I think this whole thing is a giant con job.
	And let me point this out.
	I checked out her art.
	She's unbelievably good.
	Really?
	Oh, okay.
	She is a terrific artist.
	What she's doing here is performance art.
	She said it herself in that last clip.
	She said performance.
	And here's another woman who is a transgender bitching about her.
	And this is the Rachel Nightline performance.
	And she says the word performance.
	That is not the reality of Rachel Dozel.
	Her blackness is a performance.
	Hmm.
	Very good.
	She's a performance artist.
	She's going to have a book deal.
	No, she has a reality show in the making.
	That's, I think, just more publicity for the book deal.
	Sure, sure, sure, sure.
	She's an artist.
	A true artist has got that sensibility.
	Now she's doing performance art.
	This is all just a giant scam.
	She's on national TV. She's all over the place.
	She's a genius.
	She's a marketing genius.
	And this is a huge scam.
	I love this, John.
	Good catch.
	Catch of the day.
	Which is Flounder, apparently.
	I would have never got it if it wasn't that one group, the Nightline group, that looked at the lawsuit and said it was about her art being taken down.
	And she's irked about it.
	Still.
	It's interesting, though, because it's performing so well.
	That everyone has an opinion on it.
	It is the topic of the day.
	People's brains are frying over, I don't know how to do it.
	She had a whole giant segment about her on Democracy Now!
	It went on and on.
	With one black guy, a professor at the University of Connecticut, who comments, he says, you know...
	Whatever.
	I don't understand why this is such a big deal.
	It's not like it's never happened before.
	Why is it getting so much attention?
	So I did something else.
	I would like to play it anyway.
	I was looking, okay, what are black people saying on television?
	What are black citizens of the United States saying on television?
	And what are they saying in other forms of media?
	Because regardless, we're...
	Even though this is a giant PR stunt, I'm completely with you on this, and she's a performance artist, and she's doing a very good job, and she's loving it, and I think the reality show will be to promote the book, but there will be a reality show.
	She has an agent.
	The agent saying we already have, you know, the phone just hasn't stopped ringing.
	So all makes total sense.
	But something has been triggered by people.
	And really what I'm hearing is black Americans are different from white Americans.
	That has now been spread out across the board, you know, because you can have black face, you can be a performance artist, but you have no idea what it is to be black.
	So there is now we have to say, yes, there is a difference between black and Caucasian Americans.
	Just a couple of quick clips.
	This is Michaela, who we know and we like.
	Michaela Pereira.
	Ever since she got to CNN, she started, I think, sucking a bit.
	And she's moved by this.
	She's hurt and she's not happy with this woman.
	What a fascinating conversation.
	Conversation!
	I mean, this is...
	That's not Michaela, by the way.
	That's the idiot lead-in.
	Mind-blowing and, of course, provocative stuff.
	Isn't it interesting, Chris, who's giving me the hairy eyeball, to live in a time when people...
	What is that?
	I've never heard this expression.
	The hairy eyeball?
	The hairy eyeball?
	What does that mean?
	The hairy eyeball.
	The stink eye, maybe.
	Who's giving me the hairy eyeball to live in a time when people are identifying themselves.
	I think of Bruce Jenner with transgendered issues and now her with transracial issues, as she calls them.
	I think they're very different.
	I mean, but listen, they identify themselves as different than as we see them.
	That's an interesting proposition.
	This is the first time that we've heard her say that because I don't know that to be true.
	I'd like to know more about that.
	Because to a lot of people it's as though she's just appropriating a lifestyle, a culture, a racial identity.
	So there's your clashing of memes.
	And of course, both of these memes are going to result in book deals and reality shows.
	That's really the disgusting part of it.
	Whether it's transgender, whether it's transracism, whether it's transhumanism, it's all going to result in a reality show eventually, which everyone will love.
	This is a syndicated columnist, Earl Ofari Hutchinson.
	Don't know if you know who he is.
	No, I don't know.
	He's rather eloquent.
	Actually, I'm going to skip him.
	Screw that.
	So I went to Black History TV. Now, Black History TV is not a television channel.
	It is a YouTube channel.
	And the host...
	And it's very amateuristic, but it's real.
	Amateuristic.
	Sorry?
	Amateuristic.
	This is the word amateuristic.
	Is that not a good word?
	I think it's valid.
	Should I say amateur?
	Amateuristic.
	Amateurish.
	Amateurish.
	I like amateuristic.
	I like it.
	It's just funny.
	That's the way you would say it in Dutch.
	I don't know.
	I'm a disc jockey.
	And so it's amateurish.
	They've got a single shot.
	And the guy's asking bypassers in Jamaica, Queens, what they think of this story.
	And I wanted to play some of that because this is how black Americans...
	And I don't think you can get much more down-and-out black American than in Jamaica, Queens.
	I mean, this is...
	By the way, Jamaica, Queens is beautiful.
	You should go there sometime.
	It's great.
	You got great little places to shop.
	And you meet people who have very outspoken opinions.
	Well, she definitely misappropriated herself.
	And, you know, it just kind of...
	She's not symbolic of the erasing of black people in America.
	She actually put on brown face and texturized her hair.
	Orange is the new black.
	I like that, orange is the new black, because she had this spray tan.
	There's lots of good memes coming out of this.
	Orange is the new black, you'll see this popping up more and more.
	And pretending to be a black woman, teaching Africana studies, and then becoming the president.
	Of one of our oldest civil rights institutions.
	So it's very telling and it's not...
	It's symptomatic of things that are going on across the culture.
	Where black people's culture is being taken.
	Everything about the essence of black people.
	The way we talk.
	The way we walk down the street.
	The way we smoke a cigarette.
	The way we make love.
	The things that we say in our most intimate settings.
	Is all being jacked.
	Jacked!
	Jacked!
	The epitome of a culture vulture.
	Nice!
	And what she saw that she couldn't...
	Culture vulture, John.
	Culture vulture.
	This is getting good.
	...in the white world, which is to rise of some position of authority, of prominence, of respect.
	She said, if I can't make it in the white world, I can mack this white...
	I'll ride this white game, this black game, out until I can ride those wheels off.
	And she did.
	She was very effective, very cunning, very crafty.
	And I think she's from, like, Iowa or North Dakota, from some...
	But has game for days.
	Game for days.
	Yeah, all great memes.
	So, you know, jacking everything.
	And I agree.
	Listen to the radio.
	Oh, the radio is hilarious.
	Now, I want to mention something.
	I just want to say, Top 40 Radio is geared towards getting 15-year-old white girls to buy records to jack the black culture.
	Well, I mean, you can take it back to rock and roll.
	Of course.
	I mean, they've always been accusing the white.
	In other words, you've developed...
	Hey, we gave them a Cadillac!
	On the one side, they bitch and moan, they, the black community, bitches and moans about being ripped off jazz, rock and roll, because somebody has a song that a white guy, Pat Boone will cover Tutti Frutti.
	And the next thing you know, he makes all the money.
	Little Richard makes nothing.
	And they moan and groan about it.
	Now, what they're really moaning and groaning about is not the ripoff part.
	It's the money part.
	Oh, of course.
	Because if they were making the same amount of money, they wouldn't give a crap if somebody stole their material.
	Now this girl is the way they see it.
	She used the cultural theft, became the head of an organization.
	It's appropriation is the term.
	Appropriation.
	And at the same time, they want full integration.
	They want everybody to be racial.
	Let me address that.
	You don't want racism.
	Allow me to address that with the next clip.
	Okay.
	So the questioning turned to, well, hold on.
	Wait, wait.
	Before you go to the next clip, I do want to mention something I learned only from these clips.
	And that last girl said it, too.
	Africana.
	Africana studies, yes.
	I noticed that too.
	I didn't know...
	It used to be African-American.
	It's now Africana.
	Black history.
	When did it become Africana?
	I missed that memo.
	After the Copacabana.
	Barry Manilow should do.
	At the Afra, Africana.
	So now the questioning turns, rightly so, to say, hey, but hold on a second.
	Black women are constantly emulating, and there's a new term.
	I love listening to these clips.
	Instead of saying Caucasian or white, we now say European.
	This is the new, the black term for white is Europeans.
	Have you caught this anywhere?
	No.
	No, I didn't, but I'm fascinated.
	And, you know, so they do their hair, you know, they wear European style, European clothing, and here is, I think it's the same woman talking about that, and she is against it.
	First of all, you have to look at the reasons why black women have felt compelled to narrow and Europeanize their features.
	Why we don't feel completely comfortable and self-accepting in our own bodies.
	First of all, we need to look at how white supremacy has shaped all of our minds so that we want a certain hair texture, so that we want a certain lip texture, lip shape, and nose shape, and we don't even feel comfortable looking at each other in our natural state.
	So that's to start.
	Number two, if a black woman decides to texturize, straighten, lengthen, add volume, all these things, sometimes black women get jumped on because of what they want to do with their hair.
	A woman has the prerogative to do whatever the fuck she wants to do with the hair that grows out of her head.
	Preach!
	Or to cut it all off if she wants to.
	Yes.
	However she's inclined, she should be left the fuck alone.
	Hell yeah.
	Okay, first.
	Number two...
	Women who are doing this are not impersonating Caucasian women and actually going into the workplace and pretending to be white women and gaining access to white institutions and where the power is held and being privy to all the economic and political decisions that go on in the community as head of the NAACP that she had access to by actually going in blackface.
	A black person can never do that.
	And we can't go into white spaces.
	We can't access white spaces, period.
	You can access a white person because they put you on, but the rest of the community is not putting you on.
	do a whole lot to bring you in.
	And she walked in the front door and sat and held court.
	So, so our people, when, when we get into bashing each other, when we should be bashing her, we shouldn't be turning to each other and saying, well, will you do this and you do that?
	No, shut up.
	Deal with her.
	No.
	Killer!
	Killer!
	Bomber!
	I'm not going to play it.
	I only have two more.
	Now comes a guy, and he starts off, and I'm listening, what is he saying?
	And all of a sudden, I'm like, oh my god, if I die before you do, hire this guy to replace me.
	He is the black no agenda guy.
	Over the internet.
	What are your feelings about?
	What's your view on that?
	Well, shout out to her for being us.
	Hold on a second.
	What happened here?
	Crap.
	I didn't edit it properly.
	Sorry.
	Hold on.
	Let me find out.
	I don't know.
	I salute.
	Now, dealing with the...
	Yeah, hold on.
	I'm so sorry about that.
	Right now, dealing with the European out of Spokane, Washington, who was posing as a sister.
	Notice he says she's a European out of Spokane, Washington.
	This is really interesting.
	For 10 years, to the point where she's the president of African Studies in a college, and also of the NAACP chapter in Spokane.
	So, I want to know from you, was she in, you know, was she not violating?
	Was everything, you know, was she in her proper personality?
	I'm so sorry, I should have clipped all of this off.
	I don't know what happened.
	Appropriation.
	He's coming.
	I mean, I feel like she was a culture vulture.
	Cultural appropriation, stealing from our culture as they usually do.
	But, you know, and my personal opinion is, why do we care?
	Because we're so powerful in who we are and what we do.
	Of course they want to clone us.
	Of course they want to be like us.
	We need to stop wearing contacts.
	The gray and blue contacts, we need to stop putting weave in our head and stop portraying their images and stop giving energy to them and giving them power by even caring, pardon my language, even giving a fuck about what they do.
	We should be into our own magic, our own powers, our own culture, and really, who cares?
	That's another distraction, because I'm sure they're passing the law, passing the bill, or doing something right now that's way more major than some chick putting on a curly-haired weave.
	So we need to get in.
	Some shit put on a curly hair weave.
	...into ourselves instead of getting into them so much.
	It's like the concept of, you ever had a bully in school and you were so scared to fight him, that's why he won all the fights, but as soon as you punch him in the face, he lay down.
	We control all this, you know?
	The whole media, media is the Greek word for illusion, so that's...
	That's not true.
	Media is not the Greek word for illusion, but I like his point.
	Greek god of illusion, so whenever we're paying attention to that, we're distracting ourselves from who we really are.
	Fact.
	Well, do you have children, brother?
	Yeah.
	And then he goes on to promote his book.
	And then finally...
	We have just the best woman, the best response.
	Short, sweet, and right on sister.
	Well, it was unfair, but she just wanted to see how we live.
	How are you going to be mad at a woman that wants to see how we live?
	The better part.
	Come on now.
	You can't be mad at her.
	She just wanted to know how the better part lives.
	And the better part lives good.
	Good, yeah.
	I love that.
	I love that.
	Now that you mention it, this European thing is very disturbing.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, we have culture vulture, appropriating culture, which, you're right, means stealing the money.
	And instead of saying, well, it goes back and forth, but the European thing is really being moved in there.
	That's...
	That's very interesting.
	More divisiveness.
	This is all about divisiveness, which she'll address in her book, I can assure you, because she's going to find that this is just proof she's irked about having her art taken down, and I would be too if I was the talent that she is.
	I'm going to have to look at this art.
	Yeah, that's a good catch.
	She's irked about that, so what does she do?
	She decides to become black to get back somehow?
	I don't know.
	This doesn't make a lot of sense.
	All the performance art pieces.
	Just call it performance art.
	Performance art is what it is, and people can take it or leave it.
	But there's nothing but...
	This just pulls the divisiveness out.
	You know, everybody wants to be integrated, one happy kumbaya family, but once somebody pulls a stunt like this, no!
	No!
	No, no, no, no.
	We can't do that.
	We have our own culture and screw you for even wanting to get involved because you're not black.
	Oh, there's no winning.
	We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere, but we laugh a lot.
	Now everyone hug and share a secret.
	Then I wanted to bring up something we promised we would talk about as we had our post-show deconstruction on Sunday about the professor at John Hopkins University.
	Who has published five or six books, 125 published research papers.
	And he is adamantly against the worship, the hero worship of Bruce Jenner's transgender transition to Caitlyn Jenner.
	And if you just read kind of how he wrote a Wall Street Journal article.
	And if you read the comments around the people who have clearly not read the Wall Street Journal article, which, of course, is behind a paywall, so that's why they can't read it, it seems like, well, this guy is just a racist a-hole or a bigoted a-hole.
	But his point is, this is very dangerous with children because we now have doctors.
	You have this whole, you know, let the kid be.
	And of course, this is Angelina Jolie propagating this, as she does with many memes.
	She's totally an agent of change.
	Very dangerous with the kids who can, you know, during adolescence, can...
	Absolutely feel like they are a gender different from what they are.
	And that switches back and goes, I mean, I have tons of friends of mine, the kids, my kid's playing with, he really likes the oven, you know, he likes playing with Barbies.
	I used to hear that all the time.
	Or girls who want to play with Green Army men.
	But he says the danger is that now doctors are prescribing puberty-delaying hormone drugs so these children can grow into their true gender identity.
	And he says this is a mental disorder.
	You can do whatever you want, but your DNA is just not going to be of the gender that you want to assume.
	So therefore, it is 100% a mental, I'm not saying it's a problem, but a mental issue.
	And it's very dangerous when doctors are prescribing these puberty-delaying hormone drugs.
	To these children.
	Why are they prescribing them in the first place?
	What are the parents doing?
	They're dragging the kid to the doctor, complaining or something.
	Oh, what am I going to do?
	Can you give him a drug?
	I think these parents are more responsible for all this doping up the kids.
	Oh, bring him in.
	Dope him up.
	The school says he's acting too much like a girl.
	Oh, what are we going to do?
	This is, well, besides homeschooling as a solution to a lot of this stuff.
	Yeah.
	Why are the parents putting up with this?
	But they are.
	The parents are encouraging it because they're being told to encourage this.
	Ask your doctor.
	Ask your doctor if hormones are right for you.
	I'm sorry, John.
	Do you not trust the science?
	Ask your doctor.
	Trust the science.
	Anyway, I don't like any of these trends.
	No, I... You're calling whites...
	Europeans.
	You know, we're all supposed to be supposedly getting it together so we don't have this problem.
	The idea of somebody pretending or doing whatever she did, this performance artist, would be black for a while.
	And the movie Black Like Me is about the sociology of being black.
	It was based on a book called Black Like Me, which everybody read in sociology classes around the country.
	I think they stopped letting him play, where the guy...
	He took some drug and became black and then he wrote about it.
	I mean, I don't know that that guy was condemned.
	I mean, again, I think this is divisiveness.
	So if a white person wants to move into a black neighborhood, is that bad too?
	Because they're stealing what could be a house that could be owned by a black?
	Possibly.
	This sounds like segregationism to me.
	It is.
	And that's the disturbing part about it, is that this...
	This presumably art performance, this artistic performance, has turned into this.
	We're so racially loaded in America.
	Really, really racially.
	The tension is...
	There's a lot of tension.
	And then we get the immediately, oh, white guy with bowl cut.
	He must hate black people.
	Who knows?
	He might have hated the church.
	He might have hated the preacher.
	He might have hated the state senator.
	We don't know.
	He might have been just completely nuts.
	Was there a state senator who got shot?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Oh, maybe it was MKUltrad.
	Well, the kid sure looks like MKUltra.
	All of this, all of this is not good.
	And just the whole trans fill-in-the-blank.
	I'm a transcaster.
	I used to be on radio, now I'm doing podcasts.
	You're a transcaster.
	I'm a transcaster.
	And it speaks volumes to how the citizens of Gitmo Nation, United States proper, have been riled up into just anger.
	Anger, anger, anger.
	We're not getting better?
	No.
	It's gotten much, much worse.
	All right, but here's my PR find, and we'll listen to this report.
	Two people got attacked by sharks in North Carolina, and if your arm is chewed off or you lose your arm in some traumatic way, there's, I think, a lot of recovery time.
	You certainly wouldn't be doing press reports or anything a couple days after that.
	I don't think.
	What do you think?
	Well, I have no idea.
	You think this is a scam?
	Oh, hell yeah.
	One of the victims of that brutal pair of shark attacks off the coast of North Carolina speaking out for the first time from his hospital bed.
	16-year-old Hunter Treshel recounting that traumatic shark encounter that cost him his arm.
	I was just in about waist-deep water, I would say, playing with my cousin, like I said.
	Now, this is a guy whose arm was gnawed off by a shark.
	He's in his hospital bed.
	You know, he's just looking all chipper.
	And I felt this kind of hit on my left leg.
	It felt like it was a big fish coming to you or something.
	That was the first I saw it was when it was biting up my left arm.
	The teen from Colorado was swimming in the waters off Oak Island when the shark attacked.
	I didn't see it coming.
	Like I said, I felt it on my leg.
	And then I saw it once it had attacked my arm.
	This happening a mere 90 minutes after another shark attack unfolded on the same beach, less than two miles away, where 13-year-old Kirsten Yao had her left arm torn off by a shark, bystanders leaping into action to prevent the victims from bleeding to death.
	Whenever you hear the 9-11 call, it must have really happened.
	He just got his arm bit off.
	Okay, are you with the person now?
	My husband is.
	He's got it wrapped up in a towel as tight as he can.
	Just two days after that life-changing attack, Hunter vows to remain positive.
	I have kind of two options I can try to...
	Live my life the way I was and make an effort to do that even though I don't have an arm or I can kind of just let this be completely debilitating and bring my life down and ruin it in a way.
	Out of those two, there's really only one that I would actually choose to, and that's to try to fight and live a normal life with the cards that have been dealt.
	The kid is a total hero.
	He's so positive.
	Right after this, he's still in his hospital bed.
	He's not like, hey, man, it hurts.
	I got phantom pain.
	I'm freaking out.
	My head is, I'm crazy about, no, no, no.
	I'm just going to, I'm going to live the life I live.
	No, this is an actor.
	This is an amputee.
	This kid, there was no shark attack.
	No, it's PR.
	Hey, it's Ben.
	it's Andy Casagrande back counting down my top five moments of Shark Week.
	Yeah, baby!
	It's Shark Week, John!
	I think you missed the bigger picture.
	Well, Sharknado 3 is also coming out.
	Jaws is being re-released to massive audiences.
	Same old movie.
	They've digitally remastered it, I guess.
	Perfect.
	And they're bringing it out.
	And that's in this shortly, right in time for this.
	Shark Week, I think, is part of it.
	No, I think you're right.
	I think they co-opted Shark Week.
	They co-opted Sharknado, coming out on July 22nd.
	And it's all a big...
	Is it the same studio?
	Sharknado?
	Spielberg.
	It's all Spielberg.
	This is a big movie.
	Whatever it is, it's not a true story.
	I think it's Jaws.
	Well, I'm talking about not a true story.
	Oh, sorry.
	You can play that right after this.
	I'm now beginning to believe the escapees, because people keep pointing at the sides.
	I am right there with you.
	And the hole is perfectly cut by a welding torch.
	That's our cutting torch.
	That's a cutting torch.
	Yeah, it was not a power tool.
	That's not a power tool.
	You don't do that with a power tool.
	If you look at it carefully, that's a cutting torch.
	You can tell what the cut looks like, and that's what that was.
	And it stinks.
	If you use a cutting tool in your cell, the whole prison's gonna smell of burnt metal, which has a distinct odor, and it stinks.
	I don't think these guys...
	Again, I'm trying to do some facial recognition stuff with these two guys, but they also may be actors.
	They're going to get picked up eventually.
	I saw a report and they had mug shots of them with their height in the background.
	What do you call them?
	They're too big to go in the pipe.
	Well, not only that, but they were supposed to be over six feet and you see clearly in the mug shot that they're 5'9".
	So, no, no, I agree.
	And this is part of the scarum, harem scarum thing that's going on to keep the public on its pins and needles over terrorism.
	And oh my God.
	And the reports that came out of that little town where that prison was, it was a bunch of blowhards.
	I got my gun with me.
	We've got a lookout going on.
	And the guy has like an open carry going on and he's talking about he's going to protect the women folk.
	It's just horrible.
	It's so interesting to see, you know, people in the chatroom like, oh, they're off the rails.
	They don't know what they're talking about.
	Oh, yeah, fine.
	Go ahead.
	Believe it.
	Believe it, Chuck Town K. Go ahead.
	Believe it.
	Sure.
	Yeah.
	There's also an element to this of you need to once in a while let someone escape so people inside don't go crazy.
	Prison population overcrowded.
	It's mayhem inside.
	Prisoners getting killed by guards, by each other.
	No, you have to have some kind of hope that you can actually escape.
	But okay, fine.
	Go back to sleep, Chucktown.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	In the morning.
	Baffles me.
	Baffles me that people think it's beyond belief what is happening.
	Yeah, okay.
	It's not possible.
	Can't be true.
	It's a cutting torch.
	They keep dropping the ball.
	I mean, these guys who set these things up, they make all these errors.
	They should have caught the guys immediately, too.
	The whole thing is bullcrap.
	John Dunn, Arvada, Colorado, 12345.
	These are people who we want to thank for giving us less than the executive producer's amounts, but I want to thank them profusely anyway.
	Patrick Sullivan, included in Sturgeon County, Alberta, Canada, 12345.
	After your last show, especially the part about camel urine, my wife said, they are hilarious!
	It's about time you send them more money.
	So here it is.
	Yeah, thank you.
	Ben Warden in Downs, Illinois, 1-2-3-3-3.
	Thomas Gaskin, $100 flat.
	Nicola Govaya Tate.
	What do you think?
	I don't know.
	I can't tell.
	In Ajax, Ontario.
	Ajax, what a great name for a town.
	Govea Tate.
	And it's for show 732, Father's Day.
	Everyone is going to call out their fathers.
	This is the only Father's Day donation we got?
	No, the Father's Day donation is an open donation.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Okay.
	And so it's any amount.
	So there could be all kinds of things.
	So what I'm going to do is I'm going to collect the names off the spreadsheet.
	There'll be somebody, maybe if you donate 45 bucks and you want to mention your father, we'll mention him.
	So it's an open donation.
	And I'm just going to read off dad's names on Father's Day, which is Sunday.
	So think about that.
	I like the idea of 7320.
	Anonymous in Island City, Oregon, 6969.
	Knighthood coming up and also a birthday.
	Anwanur Gilo, I believe.
	6969.
	This is in the name of D.H. Slammer, Baronet of Santa Barbara County.
	Ah, it's a Dame Bang Bang.
	Must be.
	Yeah, it says that.
	About Dame Bang Bang and the Human Resources.
	Thank you very much.
	Sir Rick in Arlington, Washington.
	6933.
	And by the way, this is a check that comes in, not a bank check, not a personal check, and you can leave a memo on there, and he puts his Sir Rick at the top, so he gets credited with his knighthood status.
	And here's her DH Slammer coming, it was 6343.
	He's been behind in his micro-show club donations.
	Interestingly, adding micro-show donations for each show, starting with 7.23 and ending with 7.31 equals 6543.
	Not a random number.
	I don't know what that means.
	Craig Dashnow in Ascot Vale, Australia.
	This is a classic old age donation, which we asked for some time back.
	He must be 63.
	Kurt Wiseman in Zionsville, Indiana, 5678.
	Another birthday boy.
	Or somebody's got a birthday.
	Sam Haveholm in Endicott, New York, 5555.
	And he has an interesting thing to say.
	He wants to call it double nickels on double nickels.
	So I don't know if that's ever going to catch on, but that's what he...
	Doubtful, doubtful.
	Dean Roker, 5510, which is double nickels on the dime.
	Anonymous, double nickels on the dime from Denver.
	Frederick Leaders in Ontario, Oregon.
	Really?
	55-10.
	Luke Rayner in London, UK. 51-23.
	And these are following ones.
	We ran out of steam here, apparently, at this donation segment.
	The following are all $50 donors.
	Andrew Haverson in Gravenhurst, Ontario.
	Michael Gates in Colorado Springs, Colorado.
	Joel DeRuin in Savannah, Georgia.
	Matthew Mongan?
	Yeah, Mongan in Baltimore, Maryland.
	Rudkin Paul, or Paul Rudkin, which makes more sense to me.
	He's in China, and I came in backwards, I guess, because it's Chinese.
	Chinese name in Shanghai.
	Rosalind Furness in Turnbridge Wells, Kent, UK.
	Todd in Seattle, Washington.
	John Camp in Antlers, Oklahoma, again.
	Amitav Hajra in Daleville, Virginia.
	Seaman Horn in Manly, Queensland, Australia.
	And finally, we're getting down to Alaska.
	Scott Lavender in Montgomery, Texas.
	Patrick Thomas in Petworth, West Sussex, UK. Sir Chris Lewinsky in Sherwin Park, Alberta, Canada.
	Dame Melody Mann in Ringgold, Louisiana.
	And she finishes up the list.
	And we want to thank all those folks for helping us out.
	And also the people that came in with lower amounts and anonymous donors in...
	That sort of thing.
	Indeed, and we have another show on Sunday, and we will need all the help that we can get for our deconstruction.
	I logged out of the chat room.
	Are you proud of me?
	Yeah, I know.
	Sometimes they get douchebags in the chat room, and they ruin it.
	Well, Ben, these are people who support the show, which makes me sad.
	Well, you don't know that.
	Yeah, I know Chuck Tong.
	He supports the show.
	The guy that was giving you crap is nice.
	It's okay to give me crap, but, you know, to say, this show's off the rails.
	Ha!
	The show's always off the rails.
	That's what we do best.
	Exactly.
	Would you enjoy that?
	And we have the following list.
	Mario Salgana says happy birthday.
	40th to Michael Salvagna.
	Ashton Bonta says happy birthday to her boyfriend, Bo Brown, celebrated on the 10th.
	And Ashton Bonta herself will be celebrating tomorrow.
	Sir Dirt Diver of East Oregon says happy birthday to his wife, Emily F., celebrating tomorrow.
	Anwar Gilo, Sir DH Slammer.
	He'll be 40.
	Today is Kurt Wiseman, 27th tomorrow.
	And finally, Sam Habholm says happy birthday to his daughter Abby.
	She will be turning 8 years old tomorrow as well.
	Happy birthday from Uncle John and Uncle Adam.
	Are you blowing your nose?
	Okay, there's...
	The kazoo.
	There's my sword, and if you could just...
	Here, let me get the kazoo.
	Ow, okay.
	Ow, ow, ow.
	Careful with that thing, man.
	What are you doing?
	Ryan Thompson, Jean-Claude Smith, and Anonymous in Highland City, Oregon, please step forward to the podium.
	All of you have donated to the best podcast in the university amount of $1,000 or more, and I hereby am proud...
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	Oops, there I go.
	The Mac just shut down.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Overheating.
	Overheating.
	Yep.
	Well, it goes to sound effects.
	No, no, no, no.
	Nothing changes.
	Everything is running.
	What does the Mac do for you, then?
	It only runs, you know, the show notes, the donor list, and the browser, yeah, so I don't have any of that.
	That's okay.
	We all survive.
	It'll cool down.
	You just put on a big, giant block of ice.
	And talking about mods, did you get that clip I sent you?
	I didn't know anything about this.
	Another subculture thing going on, which we do the best we can to keep up with.
	I didn't keep up with Americana.
	Africana.
	Africana.
	Is these called mod boxes or whatever.
	Oh, the vape guys?
	Vape guys.
	The vaporizer guys are making their own vaporizers that are high power.
	High power batteries.
	And so you see, and these guys will show you how to do it, and some of these guys use them, and they bitch about the batteries being counterfeit, and there's all these different guys out there.
	But these vape guys with these high-powered vaporizers, mod boxes or box mods or whatever they call them, And they build them.
	They push the button.
	And they take a breath.
	And what comes out of their lungs fills the room with vape.
	It's like a huge, giant cloud.
	And I think that's the point of it.
	Yes, there are competitions for who can make the biggest vape cloud.
	And we have a vape store here in Austin.
	I went in.
	And they have these...
	So it looks like a German World War II hand grenade.
	They didn't have the little pineapples.
	They had the sticks.
	Yeah, the sticks.
	And it fits in your hand.
	It's a pretty big...
	The girth is a pretty big girth.
	And the coil, you actually wrap the coil yourself because you're just making heat by short-circuiting.
	And so there's not even a...
	And normally you buy an element for the...
	What is it called?
	For the cartridge.
	The vaporizer.
	For the vaporizer.
	Yeah, the element that heats up and you buy a new one every week or so when it's burned out.
	But here you rewind the coil yourself and there's, you know, some form of cotton in there that will retain the liquid.
	The guy did a demo.
	It was bigger than the cloud on the clip you sent me.
	It was just unbelievably just a...
	It seems to me you're supposed to be like, this is a way to smoke dope or a way to smoke cigarettes that's safer for the lungs.
	I don't know.
	Maybe it's not.
	Maybe it is.
	I don't know.
	But all that cloud would contain most of the whatever you're trying to actually inhale.
	What's the point?
	I mean, I always thought that if you're going to smoke marijuana, for example, you'd hold it in your lungs, you hold your breath, and then what comes out should be nothing.
	Well, John, it's the same reason people put glass-packed mufflers in their cars.
	Makes a lot of noise.
	They have nothing better to do.
	Mike Malaro, who moved out of Austin, miss him a lot.
	His wife, Jane.
	They got a new human resource.
	They're sitting in Pittsburgh.
	That's a change, right?
	He sent me this clip.
	This is an author, Daniel Pinchbeck.
	He wrote a book called Breaking Open the Head.
	It's an interesting little clip.
	I have friends who are MIT chemical engineers who do work with nanotechnologies and so on, and they talk about how when they think about the trend of what's happening in science and technology, they see it leading to what they call ITM, which would be instantaneous thought manifestation.
	There you go.
	That's the genesis of ITM, instantaneous thought manifestation, and it fits!
	I don't know, but we're able to do it somehow.
	I thought it was a cute little clip.
	Well, a couple of instantaneous thoughts come to mind.
	One of them, I'm listening to ABC News with this guy, I can't remember his name, the guy who does it, the National News.
	ABC News guy.
	And he is in Ohio or Iowa, I guess Iowa.
	And he was there to talk to, he all had to fly out so he could interview Jeb Bush.
	And I got a kick out of Jeb.
	You see this new logo, Jeb with the exclamation mark?
	Yeah.
	You seen that?
	Yeah, you're not pronouncing it right.
	Yeah.
	No, it's J-E-B! So it should be Jeb!
	And the funny thing is that the analysis you have to derive from that is that the Republicans are looking for a president with an exclamation mark and the Democrats are looking for a president with a period.
	Everyone can use that at work tomorrow.
	So here is the ABC guy, and this is the ABC rap.
	Tell me there's not a little element of sweetening that takes place in this clip.
	And that is World News Tonight from Iowa.
	I hope to see you tomorrow night from New York.
	Until then, good night.
	Did they cut to a shot of the park or something?
	No, but they have this bird clip at the end.
	It's bullcrap.
	Nice.
	There's no bird noise within the entire show for half an hour.
	At the very end, he says, I'll see you next week or next tomorrow in New York.
	Chirp, chirp, chirp.
	That's funny.
	I thought it was...
	I was not impressed.
	It's what you do.
	It was an interesting court case that played out in the EU zone.
	And this was about liability of publishers.
	And this fits very much into the, certainly, our net neutrality rules and legal, lawful content, lawful network traffic, etc.
	And this has been going on for eight or nine years, this particular case.
	And the European Court finally came down with a decision.
	This is the Delphi AS versus Estonia.
	And, you know, they're not getting a lot of play because, hello, Estonia.
	No one really cares.
	But what happened is, I think the president of the corporation that operates the ferry boats in Estonia had done something wrong.
	I guess what the ferry boats do is they change their schedule when the river freezes, and they change it so that They keep a track open so they run them more frequently.
	They run them in different routes so the ferries can continue to run.
	But what they had done, inadvertently or not, is they had ruined an actual road that people were using over the ice.
	And so people got really, really upset because, you know, I don't know, that's what you do in Estonia.
	You bitch about the ferry boat wrecking your ice road.
	And on this one website...
	People were posting in the comments, you know, this guy should die, he's horrible, some slanderous stuff.
	And the guy sued the operator, the owner, the corporation of the website, and the court has now, all the way to the European court, has upheld the decision and the fine.
	That the website is responsible for the comments, even though they deleted the comment upon request, they are responsible, it is their liability, and this is now a European jurisprudence.
	Wow.
	And it's not good.
	That's actually a big deal.
	It is a very big deal.
	A very big deal.
	Now, this can go into one more round.
	Maybe they go to the International Criminal Court for this.
	Nothing surprises me in the EU. Nothing surprises me in the EU. But I think that's a really big deal, that anonymous comments are the liability of the person maintaining the server and running the so-called service.
	Even if you remove them after a request by the person who felt slandered or whatever he felt.
	I actually think there's some validity to the idea because you are a publisher.
	And it is seen as publishing.
	And it should be.
	And it should be seen as a newspaper.
	So if you run a blog, you should be considered a journalist.
	If you feel like you're one and you want to be one, you are one.
	That's the way I see it.
	I think that's valid.
	But if that's the case, then everything that goes on that...
	Blog is being published by you and you're responsible for it.
	So I don't see...
	I mean, I think it's a big deal that this happened, even though what it takes away is people are going to be second-guessing comments or they're going to have to...
	You could probably do a terms of service thing that would kind of negate it a little bit.
	I think that would be useful.
	I think you'd have a disclaimer at the beginning.
	It would be useful because it could be automated or you could have the...
	Here's the thing.
	This could have even been behind it.
	You could run all your comments through a third party, like Discuss, for example.
	Mm-hmm.
	Or any one of those.
	And let them take their heat.
	Hmm.
	Well, this is the direction it's going for sure.
	And, you know, I don't think that we use Discuss on our show notes.
	I don't think that you can get away with it.
	I don't think you can say Discuss certainly has...
	They could be under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.
	They can say, hold on a second.
	We're like a library.
	We don't know anything.
	This is not our problem.
	So when are you the publisher?
	Just by the act of publishing?
	Well, that needs to be discussed further in the courts.
	Then I have another question for you.
	This is another case, a copyright case, by an artist named Richard Prince.
	Now, I had not heard of him, and this could also be a hype just for his own stuff.
	But apparently he is in the business of re-photographing under the fair use clause, which has a rather vague specification of transformative work.
	And what he has done now is he has an expo in New York City in a gallery.
	Now, having a New York City gallery show your work, you're not a slouch.
	You're doing something right.
	Right.
	What he's doing is to make money from you.
	He's printing out people's Instagram photos and he changes it by or he adds, you know, on Instagram you have little comments underneath.
	But people think of your photo.
	He adds his own, with like a little funny caption, almost like he had also, maybe he did add it to the Instagram comment section.
	And he is selling them, reportedly, one sold the other day for $90,000, but the price tag seems to be around the $100,000 mark.
	And there was a court case, He's been in multiple court cases about what he calls re-photographing, so taking a photograph of a photograph, and the courts are saying, yes, this is fair use.
	And I tend to agree.
	Well, it's used for a different purpose, which is one of the rules.
	So that's right there, that's all you need.
	But I think what people need to understand is when you're posting on Instagram, outside of the fact that You know, I think the terms and services give Instagram slash Facebook a lot of rights and privileges.
	You're making a public statement and therefore you are open to fair use of your so-called art.
	And people are freaking out about it because they don't understand how it works.
	Well, read more.
	Don't post on Instagram.
	There you go.
	Thank you.
	That's the ultimate lesson.
	This would be like a section of tech news.
	Do you have tech news?
	Do I need to...
	I do.
	I need to fire that bitch up?
	Okay, hold on a second.
	I guess you have to.
	It's so hard today, I keep typing on the wrong keyboard.
	Oh.
	I know.
	I'm sorry.
	Well, it looks like...
	Not only that, but I'm just screwing...
	That's okay, we just got tech news.
	iPhone schmy phone!
	Black guy!
	There you go.
	Tech news, everybody!
	The man who said the mouse is...
	The mouse is a doomed animal.
	Mine broke my whole computer.
	Yeah, you don't want to use a mouse.
	AT&T on some show.
	Next tonight, the major cell phone carrier under fire accused of misleading customers slowing down internet speeds on purpose.
	Here's ABC's Jim Ovalos.
	No!
	Cute or annoying?
	What's better, faster or slower?
	Faster!
	The feds say AT&T claims of a faster internet deceived its customers.
	And today the government announced its intention to punish America's second largest cell phone company with its biggest fine ever, $100 million.
	Is this because the net neutrality rules are now in effect?
	No, they're just the standard.
	They're just flexing their muscles, showing what's up ahead.
	The beef?
	The FCC accuses AT&T severely slowed down the speed for its highest paying customers, the ones opting for unlimited plans.
	And after they used, a large amount of data, making it more difficult to stream movies or make video calls.
	AT&T told ABC News in a statement today, it will vigorously dispute the charges.
	Saying it has been fully transparent with its customers.
	The FCC called the company's warnings vague.
	There is a way to tell if you are getting the speed you're paying for.
	Download a speed app and test your phone.
	And you can save money by restricting which applications on your phone can use cell data.
	And use WiFi whenever possible.
	Oh, man.
	Tip of the day.
	No, it's not clip of the day.
	It's good.
	Tip of the day.
	Oh, tip of the day.
	I'm sorry.
	What are you insinuating?
	I'm sorry.
	It's not clip of the day.
	I do have another one.
	I need to comment on that for a moment.
	Okay.
	Well, AT&T are douchebags.
	We know that.
	Yeah.
	But the idea that you can determine the speed you have with one of these apps, this is not how the internet works.
	It's just not how it works.
	Your speed will vary based upon multiple hops along the route.
	In Austin, everyone's gigabit.
	AT&T has rolled a gigabit here.
	We have Google with gigabit.
	Time Warner's trying to get there.
	They're nowhere near it.
	But you're not going to get a gigabit of download speed all the time unless you're getting it directly from the AT&T server farm that you're connected to, which is exactly how it is supposed to work.
	That's what these peering arrangements, co-location arrangements are about.
	That's how the internet works.
	Even your local home network, if you have a gigabit ethernet.
	Right.
	I don't.
	If anyone's using the network, you're never going to get that speed.
	It's just like the total, it's like the amount that can go through the pipe, not what you're going to get.
	And it's not a speed, it's a volume.
	That's another thing that's misrepresented.
	Well, I got the cybersecurity apps tech news, which is, like, dumb.
	Cybersecurity researchers in Germany are sounding a new alarm over thousands of popular mobile software applications, or apps.
	They said today the way most apps store data could make it easy for hackers to find passwords, physical addresses, and other information.
	The German team says that so far, there's no evidence that anyone has tried to exploit the weakness.
	Then why do the story?
	Well, allow me to bring us in some cybertech news then, okay?
	Okay.
	This is, I watched the testimony on the Hill about the Office of Personnel Management, about the hack, which of course the Chinese did.
	We all know the Chinese did this.
	First we go to Josh Earnest, the funniest name in show business.
	Josh is going to talk about this, and he's waffling.
	He can't really tell you anything but okay.
	We are concerned that this could...
	Again, based on an early review of what's transpired, could potentially have affected more than four million federal employees.
	We've also been blunt about the fact that we know that the Office of Personnel Management maintains sensitive data and sensitive information about federal employees.
	Please remember this.
	Sensitive data.
	If you're maintaining sensitive data of any employee, government or not, and now it turns out many emails have been forwarded to me that, and this is not reported, the hack is much, much larger than previously thought, including former employees and contractors.
	Wouldn't you think that this is something that would need to be protected?
	Yeah, with encryption.
	It's, again, the precise scope of how much and what type of data has been exfiltrated is something that, again, continues to be investigated.
	There are certain elements of the investigation that we are reluctant to talk about publicly because the disclosure of some pieces of information could inhibit the ongoing investigation.
	Oh, really?
	I think...
	We certainly are being cautious in terms of what information we are communicating.
	But we've also been pretty direct about living up to our commitment to make sure that we're communicating directly with those that need to be notified about a potential breach of their sensitive data.
	And this is walking the fine line.
	I would acknowledge that as well.
	Walking the fine line between lying and bigger lying.
	Just lies, lies.
	So, director of the Office of Personnel Management, director, her name is Catherine R. Chuleta.
	She is a long-term Obama insider.
	And also a State Department, works for Hillary Clinton, so she's been around.
	Was being grilled by, what's that guy, Chaffee?
	What's that guy?
	The angry guy, angry Republican guy.
	Chaffee's one of the angry guys.
	I think it's Chaff.
	Chaffetz is the dark-haired guy, and Chaffee is a different guy.
	Anyway.
	We said one of them.
	He's grilling her, and it is beautiful to listen to how she will not answer, how she just goes back to her piece.
	Who's on the stand again?
	The Director of Office and Personnel Management, where the hack occurred, Catherine Archuleta.
	And we're going to learn some details that are astounding.
	Why wasn't this information encrypted?
	The encryption is one of the many tools that systems can use.
	I'll look to my colleagues at DHS for their response.
	No, I want to know from you why the information wasn't encrypted.
	It's personal sensitive information, birth dates, social security numbers, background information, addresses.
	Actually, it has more than that.
	It has security clearance information.
	Yes, it has all of this stuff.
	It wasn't encrypted.
	Data information encryption is a valuable...
	Yeah, it's valuable.
	Why wasn't it?
	...and is an industry best practice.
	In fact, our cybersecurity framework promotes encryption as a key protection method.
	Why didn't you...?
	Accordingly, OPM does utilize encryption...
	We didn't ask you to come read statements.
	I wanted to know why you didn't encrypt the information.
	An adversary possessing proper credentials can often decrypt data.
	Now, this is not how...
	Yeah, if you have the root certificate...
	But, you know, she makes it sound like, well, you know, if you have the password, then you can...
	So she's saying that encryption is useless.
	Yeah.
	It is not feasible to implement on networks that are too old.
	Oh.
	That's a lie.
	Of course it's not.
	Well, not entirely true.
	It's not in this piece, but a lot of their systems run COBOL, and they might not work with modern encryption tools, but you can still encrypt it.
	The limitations on encryptions is effective...
	Encryptions.
	Like it's lice.
	On the encryptions, our effectiveness is why OPM is taking other steps, such as limiting administrators' accounts and requiring multi-factor authentication.
	Okay, well, that'll work.
	It didn't work.
	So you failed, okay?
	You failed utterly and totally.
	Yes.
	So...
	The Inspector General, November 12, 2014, re-recommended that the OPM director consider shutting down information systems that do not have current and valid authorization.
	This is something I didn't know.
	No?
	I didn't know the Inspector General said you're so crappy that you have to shut it down.
	And you chose not to.
	Why?
	I appreciate the report by the IG. We work very closely with IG. What a drone this woman is.
	Isn't that great?
	What a horrible bureaucrat.
	Well, he's going to lay into her in a minute here.
	With our IG and take very seriously...
	Okay, but he had a very serious recommendation to shut down the system.
	That's how bad it was.
	And you said no.
	I'd like to turn that over to Mike.
	No, I would like you to answer that question.
	It says, we recommend that the OPM director consider shutting it down.
	Your response was, the quote, the response back from the Office of Chief Information Officer, quote, the IT program managers will work with the ISSOs to ensure that OPM systems maintain current ATOs and that there are no interruptions to OPM's mission operation.
	Basically, he said no.
	The Inspector General was right.
	Your systems were vulnerable.
	The data was not encrypted.
	It could be compromised.
	They were right last year.
	They recommended it was so bad that you shut it down, and you didn't.
	And I want to know why.
	There are many...
	Responsibilities we have with our data.
	And to shut down the system, we need to consider all of the responsibilities we have with the use of our systems.
	So you made a conscious decision, knowing that it was vulnerable, that all these millions of records for federal employees was out there, the Inspector General pointed out the vulnerability, and you said, no, we're not making a change.
	As the director of OPM, I have to take into consideration all of the work that we must do.
	It was my decision that we would not but continue to develop the system and making sure that we have the security within those systems.
	And did you do that?
	You didn't, did you?
	That didn't happen, did it?
	The recommendation after...
	This woman should be fired!
	Fired!
	It's almost done.
	The recommendation to close down our systems came after the adversaries were already in our network.
	When did they get a network?
	It was as a result of our security systems that we were able to detect this intrusion.
	When did they get into the system?
	We detected the intrusion in April of 2015.
	So, but how did you know in November of 2014 that they were already, you didn't know if they were in there, did you?
	No, we did not.
	We did not have the security systems installed at that time.
	It was because we were able to add those security systems that we were able to detect.
	So you detected the system?
	It wasn't a software provider that protected it?
	You found it yourself?
	OPM detected the intrusion.
	So the New York Times and the others who wrote that were wrong?
	That's correct.
	They're lying!
	What happened is a consultant had noticed that there were people with root access logged in from China and Australia.
	Huh.
	But you won't hear that on the Tech Horny shows.
	No, of course not.
	You'll never hear that.
	That's almost clip of the day.
	Not quite.
	The only good phone's a landline, and the phone should be made out of Bakelite.
	We're all gonna die!
	We are.
	We are.
	Bottom line in tech news today, all of this Silicon Valley, all this money, all this hype, all these promises, shit doesn't work at scale, people.
	It doesn't work.
	Oracle can't handle the billions of records in the consular database.
	You can't protect your networks.
	It was a back to paper.
	Photocopies.
	Yeah, photocopies.
	Well, we're over time.
	Yeah, we are.
	Do you want to do one more?
	I can do one more.
	I've got more than one more.
	I have one.
	This will be my last one.
	Can you play us out with a kicker?
	I've got a kicker.
	This is...
	The first time I've seen him at the State Department spokeshole briefing, this is Kirby.
	Kirby is the guy who used to be the spokeshole for the Pentagon.
	And Kirby, earlier in the week, I think Tuesday, did his little...
	I missed that one.
	He did a little thing about Bobby there.
	And he brought in Kerry, who was sitting in his house next...
	You know, Kerry is such a douchebag dickhead.
	He has a video conference so he can talk to Matt and the boys and girls of the State Department press corps.
	In the background on the window sill, he has a model of his yacht, and then he's got another yacht, just yacht models everywhere.
	It's like airline presidents.
	They have models of the airplanes that their company makes.
	Or you get a CEO, and he has a model of his G5. It's douchey.
	It's douchey is what it is.
	And Kirby was not happy with how people interpreted what Kerry said.
	It was about Iran, and are we changing our strategy?
	That's unimportant.
	But we know that when the truth wants to get out, and people will say the truth inadvertently, and Kirby lost himself in this.
	He was mad.
	He was perturbed about people misinterpreting the message.
	And here's what happened.
	Everybody, yeah, I'm not exactly right on time, but I tried to get closer to it today.
	This is already not the way you start a press conference.
	Don't start apologizing about not being...
	No, just don't do that.
	And then he's trying to take off his watch, which you'll hear clink, clink, clink.
	But this is one of these guys who takes off the watch and puts down the lectern to see how much time he has.
	Yeah, good way to lose a watch.
	A couple of things at the top I want to just...
	Peter, if you'll allow me.
	I want to make a specific comment about some of the coverage of Secretary Kerry's press conference yesterday.
	By the way, thanks for attending that.
	But I think some of the coverage has sort of taken the tone that That there's a change in our policy with respect to possible military dimensions of Iran's nuclear program or that it's a concession about to be offered or changed.
	So he's saying you guys suck.
	You did it wrong.
	You don't understand.
	This is all wrong.
	You got it wrong.
	Your reporting is wrong.
	You're wrong.
	You're wrong.
	And I'm mad.
	And that is absolutely, completely false.
	And whenever you say absolutely, completely false, you know the guy's lying, but it's going to get worse.
	The Secretary was very clear yesterday that, as before, we absolutely require Iran to give the IAEA the access that they need to resolve any possible military dimensions of their program.
	We've said we're not looking for a confession.
	We've already made judgments about the past, but the sanctions lifting will only occur as Iran takes the steps agreed, including addressing Possible military dimensions.
	Now, the negotiations are ongoing, and I'm not going to talk about the specifics of it, but I want to put a fork in it right now that there's any kind of concession or change in the policy.
	It's just not simply true.
	Did you catch it at the end?
	Yeah, he says something about it being actually true.
	Yes, he says it's true.
	Play that again.
	Yeah, he says it's true.
	It's just...
	That there's any kind of concession or change in the policy.
	It's just not simply true.
	It's true.
	It's not just true.
	It's just not simply true.
	It's very true.
	Huh.
	That was a good one.
	That's a good catch.
	I think the fork in it.
	Put a fork in it.
	Do you put a fork in it to see if it's done?
	Yeah.
	You put a fork in it.
	What's he talking about?
	It's done.
	I have just a little funny clip at the end.
	And this is the Sean Hannity clip.
	And what it is is Sean Hannity had a bunch of comics on.
	On his show, and they're talking about what's funny, what's not.
	They're talking about the stuff you talked about before, about comics being PC'd so they can't really do their humor, and they're all laughing and yucking it up, and Hannity's trying to be one of the boys, and trying to be funny, and trying to, you know, he thinks he's hilarious, and he talks about how he liked Richard Pryor and all the rest, and if you just...
	It's not a long time ago, but at some point, he gives away what I've been claiming for all along.
	He gives it away, and he actually has a nomenclature here that I didn't know.
	We know now.
	We know what to call it.
	And see if you can catch it.
	It's just at the very end, and they all get giddy about the fact that he blew the cover.
	What?
	That was edgy back then.
	Cheech and Chong was edgy for the 70s.
	It's funny!
	It wouldn't be for now, though, but that's what...
	Red Cross was funny.
	Richard Pryor was funny.
	So what's edgy for now?
	It's like, what room do we have for edgy comedians now?
	It's like they're closing that box up for us.
	Well, that's why...
	We gotta push out.
	We gotta use it.
	Red Eye is edgy.
	You have a leg chair.
	Well, we don't call it that, Sean.
	Don't put him in that chair.
	No.
	Wait a minute.
	Did he call it leg chair?
	Leg chair.
	Oh, leg chair.
	And that's not what we call it, Sean.
	Oh, okay.
	We have a leg chair.
	And you know what it refers to?
	Your dick?
	The one girl with the legs.
	They're in that chair.
	Yeah.
	And I guess they call it the leg chair.
	Hey, who wants to sit in the leg chair today?
	Oh, you know, I don't feel comfortable sitting there.
	My legs aren't that great.
	Just put in, you know, guilfoyle.
	Yeah.
	Well, she got some good gams.
	She does.
	They're gams that don't quit.
	She's only like 4'11 or something.
	She's a shorty.
	Well, I'm going to play in our ending montage.
	I shall play a little clip from the 1980s movie, Airplane.
	Yeah.
	Which shows you how comedy has changed, and you just think to yourself, and you don't have to answer now, but just think to yourself, could this movie be made today and released, or would it be just too much of a hot potato?
	I'm in.
	I know.
	I know you are.
	All right, everybody.
	Sorry, John.
	I was a little off on the technical side here today.
	I had some issues.
	Nah, it was fine.
	Yeah, but I hate it when it happens.
	You didn't get to play the almost clip of the day again later.
	No, it's okay.
	I can play it again later.
	Get a new Mac.
	Get something new.
	This thing's...
	Yeah, it's toast.
	Put it on a cool plate.
	It already is.
	I'll tell you about that later.
	Hey, coming to you from FEMA Region 6 here in the capital of the Drone Star State, in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where the trucks are sliding by on the freeway.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
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