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So this was the scam of the scams.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Thursday, June 11, 2015.
Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 729.
This is no agenda.
Keeping tabs on Smith and Munt.
And broadcasting live from FEMA Region 6 here in the capital of the Drone Star State with a crackpot condo in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley where I'm keeping tabs on the weather for historical sakes, it's foggy.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
That's June.
June gloom there.
It rained the other day.
It's not a normal June.
It's global warming.
Well, you know how we're going to fix the global warming, don't you?
No, no.
The president told us so himself.
We want to solve something like climate change, which was one of my highest priorities.
Highest priorities?
Highest priorities.
What happened to protecting the American people?
I thought that was the highest priority.
That's what he's saying.
Then, I've got to be able to get into places like Malaysia and say to them, Hey, hey dudes!
This is in your interest.
What leverage do I have to get them to stop deforestation?
Well, part of the leverage is, if I'm in a trade relationship with them that allows me to raise standards, now they have to start thinking about it.
How quick they're chopping down their forests and what kinds of standards they need to apply to environmental conservation.
Yeah, so this is for the...
You know, I'm going to have to tell you this.
I'm not going to give it to you, but that is Clip of the Day.
But you're not giving it to me?
No, it's because it's too early in the show.
You can't take Clip of the Day right off the top.
That is the president explaining why we need the TPP. He's fast-tracked.
Yeah, exactly.
Fast-tracked because of global warming.
But what I like is he says, I can't tell them what to do.
It's kind of jumping the shark, you know?
You can't tell them what to do.
Yeah, I can't set standards for everybody, for the world to listen to America.
So I need this.
I need this.
Of course, we all know the true solution is nuclear energy, and I had a meeting on Monday here in Austin.
I forgot to put it forward to this today.
I want to just mention, though, I'm going to reiterate a clip that we didn't play.
One of the guys, one of the government guys, goes on and on and on about what we have to drop oil altogether, and first he makes the mistake of saying nuclear power, and then the second time around he drops nuclear power, and he talks about wind, air, wind, water, and there's a third one.
Farts.
Sun.
And they said, we got to go to all renewables.
And every time anyone says to me, we should go to all renewables for our energy needs, I'm always thinking, well, so I should start burning wood.
Right?
Is that renewable?
Come on!
Yeah, it grows.
It's de-renewable.
Yeah.
You chop down a tree, you burn it, you grow another tree, you chop it down, you burn it.
But that does result in other things that aren't great.
It's de-renewable.
They're not saying that.
They're not saying clean.
Okay, okay.
I hear you.
Yeah, go on.
Well, I had a meeting with Sir Atomic Hot Rod Adams here in Austin.
Yeah.
Yes, it was a very well-known meeting.
Yeah.
Everyone was abuzz.
Yeah, we had breakfast at Joe's Coffee on 2nd.
And so Rod, of course, has been our...
He was a commander on a nuclear submarine.
You know, retired now, but career naval guy.
He's taught.
He's been in private practice.
And now he's pretty much doing his blog, Atomic Insights, and he has a number of different podcasts that he does.
And he drove from Virginia, where he lives, to San Antone for the annual American Nuclear Society meeting, which was very depressing.
Yeah.
Well, of course, there's no money, really, anymore for nuclear.
No, of course not.
Why?
It's only, although everybody judges it based on 1950s technology, it's the only solution to global warming.
It's completely carbon-free.
The new breeder reactors produce no waste.
The sun doesn't have to come out?
I'm sorry.
It doesn't have to blow?
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry, they do produce waste, but they eat their own poop, so it's fantastic.
But he said last year there were about 1,500 attendees at the ANS. This year, about 400 or 500.
Yeah, well, once the Chinese get their act together and start building these things left and right, we'll get a clue.
And I wanted to point quickly, he has a great article about Stanford.
How their climate scientists there promote 100% renewable revolution.
And these guys are all paid by fossil fuel money.
But they, of course, do not promote the true renewable.
And Stanford will not take anyone who is interested in becoming a professor in nuclear.
Only nuclear waste.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
He sent a whole letter that he sent, and he got a letter back from the dean.
Oh, that's interesting.
A couple things I learned from Ron.
By the way, Newt Lear is not renewable in any way.
Well, that's not true.
The breeder reactors are the definition.
That's just recycling.
That's not renewable.
Renewable means when you remove it, you can get it back.
When you pull uranium out of the ground, it doesn't grow back.
Agreed.
But I got some updates and some info on stuff that we're interested in.
So, for instance, backyard nukes.
And, you know, how the progress is going.
How is it going?
Well, not too great.
Oh, the technology is there, ready to be harvested.
Well, I'll tell you what the problem is.
So there's only one, and of course I'm not a nuclear physicist or scientist, but I'm just paraphrasing what I jotted down.
So the kind of reactors we're talking, we're looking at backyard nukes, but really we're talking about a nuclear plant that could be pretty much in the backyard.
The whole thing wouldn't be much larger than a couple of you and I if you stuffed this in a box.
And that could power 100,000 homes.
And this would be one of those breeder reactors.
And the problem is that there's a reactor that can already do this.
It's the Russian Ross-60.
And we do have a fast reactor here in the United States, but we can't do anything with it because the only place you can get the fuel for this is from Russia.
And guess what?
As a part of the sanctions imposed over the Ukrainian conflict, the Department of Energy is foreboding from doing any business or getting anything from Russia.
So it's effectively a standstill forever.
Well, until they give Snowden back.
Yeah, there's that.
And then I came up with an idea.
I said...
Can't we take decommissioned subs and just change the turbine?
Because instead of propelling the propeller, put a different turbine on.
He said, yeah, you could probably...
Why would you have to put a different one?
Doesn't that produce electricity to power the boat?
Well, the reactor produces steam and then you need a different turbine to generate the type of electricity that could come out of this.
In the boat, they have a very slow move.
It's only 300 or 400 RPMs that the submarine propeller turns at.
So you just need a different turbine.
You could submerge it offshore.
It would have everything it needs.
Water for cooling, just everything.
And you could probably power 250,000 homes with a decommissioned submarine.
Guess what?
What?
Yeah, no, that's not going to happen.
Yeah, no.
It's not going to happen.
Of course not.
Why do all these people that are all...
The question that always has to be asked when you run into an environmentalist who is all in on global warming, there are two questions.
One, why not nuke?
Right.
Which they'll always, well, they're going to cite a bunch of crazy stuff.
That's exactly how they sound, too.
Yeah.
They can't deal with that.
And then the other one is, why cap and trade?
Which is the other one that's so obvious.
It's such a scam.
If you're really that concerned, and you claim to be, just cap!
Yep.
Anyway, it was a good scene, Rod.
And he drives a Jetta diesel.
That's what the new guys drive.
Isn't that great?
Those little diesels are pretty quick, those European diesels.
And it gets 43 miles to the gallon.
Yeah, the problem is because when they came up with this low...
It's almost as though it was something screwy about it.
They came up with this low sulfur standard for diesel fuel, which is fine in itself.
But then all of a sudden, diesel fuel costs more than premium gas.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's all the taxes that are put on.
There should be any more taxes.
Just not the taxes.
The gas is overpriced.
Well, you're in a fine mood today, aren't you?
Well, you keep coming up with these bromides.
I think you have this clip as well, but since I have it lined up already, I'll play this as a part of our Agenda 21 opening today.
As we previewed Friday, the EPA has announced its intention to regulate aircraft emissions like it does cars, trucks, and power plants.
Environmentalists say American airplanes are responsible for about 3% of all U.S. greenhouse gas emissions.
Conservatives say strict emissions regulations would force airlines to raise ticket prices or add more seats to already cramped planes.
This is the first step in a lengthy regulatory process.
There you go.
This is going to suck.
3% my butt.
I'd like to see that proven.
Well, you know it's going to turn out differently.
So what they're saying is that a plane full of people going from, let's say, 250 people going from San Francisco to New York creates more emissions.
This is what they're implying.
They're not saying this, but they're implying this.
Creates more emissions than those same 250 people driving from San Francisco to New York.
That's the implication.
That implication is built into the rationale.
Yes.
I don't believe that.
No.
I think it's just lies.
But what this is more indicative of is how certainly this administration has been It's really running things by the new powers, the reasonably new powers that the agencies have to just create whatever regulations they want.
Yeah, let's make a law.
Well, yeah, or change the law, etc.
Exactly, exactly.
I see you have, you watch the TSA security thing on C-SPAN? No.
Oh, because I saw you have airport security stuff.
These are news stories because I've concluded that this entire TSA... Well, let's play these and I'll give you my conclusion then if you want to.
Yes.
Let's start with one.
Okay.
The new report found the TSA does not have access to terrorist watch list data that would have flagged 73 airport workers.
That includes airline employees, airport vendors, and others with access to secure areas of commercial airports in the U.S.
The TSA is responsible for vetting every application for airport security credentials.
The report noted the vetting was generally effective, but it identified thousands of aviation worker records that appeared incomplete or inaccurate, including those for 75,000 immigrants that did not list a passport number and 87,000 records without a social security number, something by law the TSA records without a social security number, something by law the TSA cannot Huh.
Why can't they?
I have to give the last four numbers of my social for anything.
Well, that really baffled me when he said that.
So you're hiring somebody.
I don't know if you've ever been hired for a job.
I believe so.
Few.
They always ask for your social security number on your employment thing because they've got to give you W-2s, W-4s.
They've got to give you something.
And they need your social security number so they can also give this data to the government.
Do you think the report may be wrong?
No.
I think this is just dropped in as more, well, we need more power.
I think this whole thing is a giant scam to get the TSA more money, more power, and also to promote the Patriot Act and some of the other things that are floating out there in limbo.
Let's jack everybody up.
I understand that if you do not have a social security number, you can take your payment in iPads.
I thought it was in Bitcoin.
Okay, play social security number two.
The report follows last week's revelation that undercover agents posing as passengers were able to sneak mock explosives or banned weapons through security checkpoints 95% of the time.
The test found a potential vulnerability with airport body scanners.
Now, this was the giveaway.
They are piling on, because this is an old report.
They're reiterating.
When they start reiterating the news, in other words, bringing back old stories as part of a new story...
This is very important, what you're saying, yes.
That means something's up.
This is a scheme.
Something is afoot.
And play three, which I titled the scam.
The big question from the new report is, how dangerous were these 73 workers?
And that section...
Is redacted.
Hold on a second.
Okay, that broke up.
Hold on, hold on.
Let me play it again.
Let's see what's going on with this, if something's wrong.
No, that was you?
No, that was CBS. Oh.
We're better than CBS, apparently.
Okay.
So this was the scam of the scams.
They said, here's the, and the guy holds up a piece of paper, and it's got black shit all over it the way they, when they redacted.
And he says, how dangerous were these guys who got through without, you know, they were on the terrorist watch list?
We don't know, because it was all redacted.
So they must have been very dangerous.
We've got to do something.
We've got to pass more laws.
We need more money.
That's what that said to me.
Well, this leads into a little run.
But before you lead into anything, I just want to do a little aside.
The beginning of clip two, there's a sound effect.
Okay.
Which is very familiar with me.
I've heard it a million times.
I can't place it.
The report...
That thing?
That ding, ding, ding, ding?
Yeah.
Let me listen again.
The report follows...
The chat room will know.
All right.
Do this one more time.
The report follows...
I don't know what that is.
I've said it a million times.
Chain link fence?
No, no.
It's like your suitcase dragging along.
I'm reading the chat room.
Bicycle bell?
Ice cream vendor?
Don't read the dumb ones.
Guess what?
Some say it's the Vegas airport.
And it's slot machines.
Which would be familiar to you.
Oh, no, no, no.
No.
All right.
Onward.
Well, so, yes.
What you said about when they start to reiterate, bring back old news stories, something is up.
And we had something happen earlier today.
In fact, it happened on Tuesday.
You and I happened to be doing something.
We were working on a special episode.
I'm going to play that first.
And then I'm going to do a little rundown so we can really get a good handle on what has been taking place in what we sometimes would call the six-week cycle, but this is a little more transparent, and it also doesn't involve all terrorists being nabbed by the FBI. During the daily press briefing on Tuesday, there was a bomb threat called in, several bomb threats called in.
One, to the actual press conference, and the room had to be evacuated.
All the...
So everyone's sitting there and they're, you know, asking questions with Josh Earnest up on stage.
They had to leave.
And then, you know, we actually saw a little bit of the dogs running through.
It didn't look like a...
It was kind of a strange sweep.
I mean, if you're going to, you know, evacuate the press in the West Wing and all you see is dogs running through.
I was expecting a robot or something of that nature.
But they also evacuated the TSA hearing on Capitol Hill, which was about...
You know, this very report.
Now what was interesting is the president was in the White House.
However, he was not moved.
He was not evacuated.
No one else was moved.
Josh Ernest went back to his room.
He was not told to shelter in place.
But the press were moved way down towards the executive building.
And this, of course, did raise some questions.
We went outside.
You say it was to keep us cool.
But I don't think it was.
We were out there.
You were in your office.
We went to Pebble Beach first.
And then they moved us further down into the next building on the campus and moved us even further back.
It wasn't for coolness.
It was because of a fear.
So my question is, with the proximity to everyone and everything here, the seat of power just feet away.
And they were not moved.
But we had to be pushed all the way back.
I'm trying.
There's something not jiving and not mixing.
It just seems odd.
Well, April, for the questions that you have about decisions that are made by the Secret Service, then I would encourage you to contact the Secret Service and they can maybe get you a more specific answer to your question than I'm able to.
The Secret Service to break into a briefing, which they don't, they had to think about it coming in, because I watched them.
They had to think about stopping the briefing because of the severity and no one was moved.
It's just, it doesn't sound like it.
Not doesn't.
Sorry.
She's sorry.
Well, April, I can help you out.
Let us take a look at the month of June 2015.
It started off with the, of course, we had the expiration of the Patriot Act.
President Obama signed the USA Freedom Act into law on June 2nd.
But, of course, on June 2nd, just before Congress was set to start the debate of the Freedom Act, we had multiple bomb threats against U.S. aircraft.
You'll recall this.
Five bomb threats.
It could have been called in by an ISIS lone wolf.
So very convenient then for the president to sign the Freedom Act in.
Two days after the president signed the Freedom Act, we had a massive, massive security breach.
Which, of course, was done by China.
This was the Office of Personnel Management.
Even though the hack occurred in December, suddenly this was the news.
And this is, of course...
That's the way you do it.
Sorry?
That's the way you do it.
You hold these things back as little things.
Okay, let's roll it out.
Let's roll out that.
Okay, let's roll it out.
Who are we going to blame?
Korea?
No, no, no, no, no.
China.
So the president, he was with a group of seven in Germany.
Oh, here's what he said.
We have known for a long time there are significant vulnerabilities.
These vulnerabilities are going to accelerate as time goes by.
And we need strong security, cybersecurity, laws, etc.
Legislation.
An hour after that statement, what did we have?
The Syrian government hacking group claimed responsibility for hacking the official US Army.mil website.
Nice coincidence, huh?
Yeah, yeah.
You got another good idea for admin, WP? I know!
Let's try Army Rocks.
Oh, Army Rocks, we're in!
It was probably more like, could you please type in cpindexhack.html to index.html?
Thanks!
Great.
We're good to go.
The quote, Monday's attack may have been the first breach of a website directly operated by the U.S. military.
It's their recruitment site.
But of course, we can call back to the cyber caliphate who hacked Twitter and YouTube accounts of CENTCOM, U.S. Central Command.
Of course, we have the hacker ISIS. And now we have the Protecting Cyber Networks Act, which is currently in the House, which will be part of the Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act.
And then, let's see, oh, then all of a sudden we have another bomb threat.
I mean, this is a, it's so obvious what is going on.
Every single time we need to get something through, move it through, get something placed, set an agenda, we have one of these phony baloney attacks, which really mean nothing.
They're not even really attacks.
No!
They're just calls.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
So, this is all happening under the...
Repealment of the Smith-Mund Act, which I just like to remind people of from time to time.
As a part of the 2013 National Defense Authorization Act, the United States government is now allowed to propagandize its own people, the citizens of the United States.
And it's happening.
And it's happening to push through legislation constantly.
It could also have been to shut this guy up at the TSA hearing.
This is a federal air marshal.
His name is Robert McLean.
And this happened before the bomb threat came in.
He's making some form of sense, but the whole thing is...
Was he cut off because of the bomb threat?
He was not cut off, no.
But not long after.
That would have been fantastic.
Timing was a little off.
Just listen to what he has to say.
His heart's in the right place, I think.
Flight crews and law enforcement officers need the legal authority to deputize and indemnify vetted, able-bodied passengers to protect themselves and the jet from destruction.
We could do this process during our pre-check.
There's no reason why an athlete or a military member can't walk deep into the cabin to restrain somebody.
During pre-check enrollment, we can ask passengers to volunteer to be these deputy air marshals.
I want a badge!
I want in!
Here's your plastic badge, boy.
No, it'll be a patch.
It won't be a badge.
It'll be a patch.
You can wear it anytime you want on any clothes.
How cool would that be?
Excuse me, deputy air marshal.
Then you hold up the patch and flap it around.
And you know some people will laminate it to make it look a little more official.
During critical events, pre-check, it should be greatly expanded.
And it should be free of charge.
I'm all in the free of charge, but no, let's not expand.
This is an elite thing.
This is so I can travel freely without hassle.
I don't want long lines because everyone's a damn deputy.
More people in PreCheck freeze up resources to focus on attackers.
I like to see TSOs roaming airports with mobile PreCheck application kits and soliciting passengers during their delays.
Can I interrupt this and ask you a quick question?
Sure.
We've been doing this for almost eight years.
In eight years, and considering there's probably 40,000 flights a day, you have to multiply 40,000 times 365 times eight years.
How many events happened on airplanes that required this procedure or deputies to save the aircraft?
How many can you recall?
As far as the aircraft have dropped from the sky, 40,000 times 360 times eight in the last eight years.
Well...
None have been dropped from the sky.
Multiple answers, multiple answers.
We have had, of course, really one instance with the shoe bomber...
Oh, I'm sorry, the underwear bomber, where the passengers jumped him.
Right.
Well, they jumped the shoe bomber, too, earlier.
Yes.
Although that wasn't domestic.
However, we have had tens, maybe even scores, of aircraft turn around, make emergency landings for drunk passengers, babies who are crying, you know, people just...
So, no, it's useless, obviously.
We need to have more faith in human intelligence gathering and the intuition of bold officers.
But in order to get more air marshals on the ground, you need to completely secure the flight deck or the cockpit.
Now, he has some interesting ideas here, which one of them is super logical.
I don't understand why it hasn't happened yet.
Where the pilots are in control of the jet.
Every flight deck should have a modified shotgun with an emergency lock switch.
Yeah.
Shotgun pellets are an ideal sincere since the primary concern is to stop an attacker trying to force the door open.
In a highly unlikely miss, shotgun pellets will not harm passengers or the aircraft.
Ow!
My eye!
What is that?
My eye.
I'm blind.
The group of pilots...
I don't think he says this, but what would be really cool is to have one of those little holes in the door like in a Brinks armored truck.
You can shoot out of the door.
Stick the gun out and move it around a little bit.
Hey, what's going on?
Pellets will not harm passengers or the aircraft.
The group of pilots who use their own funds to travel to Artesia, New Mexico, spending a week being trained and issuing a TSA-40 caliber semi-automatic pistol can miss and kill an innocent passenger in the very back of the cabin with a jacketed bullet.
Once again, this is highly unlikely, but it's possible.
Armed pilots are not allowed to carry their pistols on international flights due to very restrictive handgun laws in foreign countries.
But a shotgun modified to stop one or two hijackers trying to break into the cockpit from one foot away would be an aim for a host country to deny and risk another 9-11 style attack.
There's your idea, John.
There's the little hole, the Brinks truck hole, one foot away.
It's an extreme hazard whenever a pilot opens the flight deck door to use the laboratory to get food and drink.
An amped-up attacker can dive inside and destroy the jet.
There's a cheap and perfect solution.
Hold on.
How many times has that happened in the last eight years?
Zero.
With 40,000 flights a day times 360.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But listen to the idea.
His idea is not bad.
An attacker can dive inside and destroy the jet.
There's a cheap and perfect solution to this.
Secondary barriers.
Ten horizontal cables attached to a vertical pole.
A flight attendant can simply stretch across the front of the forward galley and lock in place.
That would replace what I've always thought was a really dumb idea where they move the galley cart and they stand behind the cart.
That is dumb.
That does look stupid.
The girls are there behind the cart and they're looking left and they're looking right.
So I think the idea of these wires are good, but instead of having these steel cables at the front of the plane, just put steel cables around every passenger.
Yeah, just strap you down.
This barrier buys the flight crew place when the cabin comes out.
You've got your arm on the armrest and the little handcuff thing comes around.
This barrier buys the flight crew plenty of time to quickly get the pilot back into the flight deck and lock the door.
In order to control unruly passengers who could be suicidal attackers setting up a ruse for the law enforcement officers.
A ruse!
It's a ruse!
Ford, every cabin should be equipped with restraint systems and non-lethal tools to restrain unruly passengers or stop murderous attackers.
Come here, Alice.
Let me restrain you, girl.
I think there's a bigger problem.
They never want to address it.
Oh, hold on a second.
Time to call in the bomb threat.
There's one thing they never address in these meetings.
I just don't understand it, because this is a danger to any airplane.
Spontaneous human communication.
I was just talking about that the other day.
I'm glad you brought it up, because I was talking about this, and I said, you know, John's a believer.
Well, only because I've done research on it.
Do you want to reiterate your research?
No, I mean, I could reiterate it, but there's plenty of documented cases where somebody just burns a pile of ashes, really not doing much damage to the area around them, except the spot they're seated.
They tend to be in an overstuffed chair.
I've found documentation of this going back to the 1600s.
I'm sure there's stuff before that.
But you're sitting around.
It isn't for anyone who this happens to.
I don't know what you can do about it.
I've never heard anyone stop it in process.
And it's usually the legs, right?
The legs.
No, no.
Around the girth is where the blue flames first start to appear.
And they kind of shoot out like it was like propane torches.
Do we have video of this?
Well, I'm waiting for the video.
Okay.
And then the next thing you know, you're completely engulfed in flames.
I never heard of anybody screaming or in pain, which is kind of...
It doesn't usually happen when you're asleep in a Barco lounger.
It happens when you're asleep.
It's happened on a pulpit where a preacher just went up in flames.
But it generally happens in an overstuffed chair.
Yeah, in a Barco lounger.
Yeah, you're sitting in a bargain lounge.
It's got to be over.
And then you just catch on fire and you're just a pile of ashes.
The lounge chair is singed.
It's a way to go.
But if this happens on an airplane, I don't know.
Who knows what kind of panic?
Oh, yes.
But it's never happened on an airplane as far as I know.
As far as you know.
As far as I know, yes.
Indeed.
Indeed.
Most emailed response to the previous program.
Did you receive a lot of emails about one particular topic?
No.
Texture of food.
Oh, I didn't get that much.
I got a lot.
I got another batch of mail about something else.
There was a lot of tweets, people saying, yes, my wife has this.
To your point, a lot of people who have texture issues with food won't eat it as the raw food, but if it's blended, it's okay.
Or if it's baked into something else, it's okay.
A lot of men saying, you know, I have this too.
More men than I thought.
I thought it was just a female thing, although it does seem that, just from my informal survey, that it is more prevalent with women.
It seems to be a little bit of a millennial thing, too, just judging by some of the age ranges.
And something I should have done much earlier, usually I do this.
This is real.
And it has an entry in the DSM-5 manual, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.
It is a mental disorder.
So get ready to tell your wife.
Honey, you've got a mental disorder.
It is known as avoidant or restrictive food intake disorder.
And it is considered an eating...
You can also call it SED. It's either ARFID, Avoidant Restrictive Food Intake Disorder, also known as Selective Eating Disorder.
And unfortunately, there are no drugs for it yet.
Oh, that'll be...
Why would anyone want it to?
I don't know.
I love the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.
We're all crazy for something.
Yeah, yeah.
I actually discovered a new disorder which I want to have in the DSM manual.
Probably in there if you look hard enough.
No, I checked this one.
Lintitis.
I'll bet you also suffer from lintitis.
I suffer from lintitis.
Where you pick up a little piece of lint and you...
No, no, no, no, no.
Lintitis is...
You have hairballs on your sweater and you gotta shave them off?
No, no, no, no.
It is the compulsion...
To lift the lint from the dryer off in one piece.
Well, I don't know that that's a compulsion.
You do it, generally speaking, because it's easier.
No, it's a win for me.
What are you going to do, pull off pieces at a time as an alternative?
No, you can pull the whole...
No, you want to pull off without it breaking.
Yeah.
So you get that one hole...
It's more work if it breaks.
You get the whole flap.
It's a work avoidance disorder.
Yeah.
I noticed, what am I doing?
I'm really happy when, oh yeah, I got the whole thing off in one go.
And then you use the dryer sheet to rub the rest off.
You use dryer sheets?
Yeah, you don't use dryer sheets?
God, no.
The chemicals in that, I wouldn't be anywhere near that stuff.
But it makes everything fluffy and smell nice.
Yeah, throw a bottle of perfume in next time.
Well, this...
I can't imagine...
What it does to fibers and what it possibly does when it's up against your body is I don't even want to think about.
That's how deadly...
Oh, wow.
Thank you for telling me this.
Well, thank you.
I shall immediately cease this operation.
It's not going to fluff stuff up that much.
Well, the little bear on the package looks like it's going to fluff everything up.
The bear on the package. Amen.
Fist bump.
The bear on the package.
Lynn Titus.
It's real.
It's real, I tell you.
I bet it is.
All right.
Since we were talking a little bit about climate change, I do have the Amy Goodman clip.
I'm going to collect these now, because no matter what she says, it's always related to climate change.
And let's say Amy says climate change clip.
Last month was officially the wettest month ever recorded in the United States.
Despite a record drought in California, states across the Midwest were hit by heavy rain in May, a pattern which has been linked to climate change.
Ha ha ha!
It's like that pattern's linked to climate change.
If it was just the opposite, California isn't being flooded and the rest of the country's in a drought.
That's been linked to climate change.
It's really unbelievable.
Everything is...
I'm going to make a huge clip file.
That's why I put that one in there.
The climate change clip file?
For Amy.
Just Amy, because she brings it in all the time.
She brings it in more than anybody else working on television.
Hmm.
I have a, if you want to, since we're on her topic, let me just do it.
On climate change or just on her?
No, no, Amy.
Well, before you move on with Amy then, at the G7, the leaders of the G7, you always want to push stuff out as a politician.
We have these 2020 goals where China is supposed to kick in doing nothing.
No, I almost had this clip.
I know which one you're going to.
It's not a clip.
The G7 leaders have agreed to completely phase out all fossil fuel by the end of the century.
Yeah.
When we're all dead anyway.
Carbon elimination, they call it.
Yeah.
I got that too.
Nuts.
They're big talkers.
All right, so the Weavers, this is the clip is the Weavers and Weavers 2 is the follow-up.
I guess the lead singer, who is a really good singer of the Weavers.
I'm not familiar with the Weavers.
Well, of course not.
The Weavers were a folk act in the 50s, and they predated a bunch of, and Pete Seeger was in the group, and it was that, you know, story.
Oh, yeah.
They were singing protest songs way before anybody else.
And then they got apparently blackballed.
But play the clip.
Here's the little rundown of this woman who died.
It's the last one.
Kentucky Democratic Governor Stephen Beshear has signed an executive order raising the minimum wage for employees of the state executive branch to $10.
Is that on there?
I'm sorry.
Yes.
I'm sorry, I should have clipped that off, but the minimum wage went up somewhere.
Ten cents an hour.
I'll just do something for myself.
The order will raise the salaries of nearly 800 state workers beginning July 1st.
Governor Beshear said the current U.S. We'll just talk over it for a little while.
Good work, John.
Thank you, thank you.
I'll do my best.
Folk music fans are mourning the death of singer Ronnie Gilbert, one of four founding members of the Weavers, who helped popularize folk music and bring its message of social change to the world.
In a documentary called The Weavers, wasn't that a time, Ronnie Gilbert recalled the period around the Weavers' founding after World War II, saying, quote, we still had the feeling that if we could sing loud enough and strong enough and hopefully enough, it would make a difference.
Believers were targeted by anti-communist fervor, investigated by the Senate Internal Security Subcommittee, and blacklisted.
Did they have any hits?
They were blacklisted.
I think they had a couple.
But there was this folk era that, you know, there was a folk era.
This is Bob Dylan came out of this, and Peter Paul and Mary.
Peter Paul and Mary.
The Kingston Trio.
Kingston Trio, definitely.
Rooftop Singers.
Were you looking something up?
No, I'm a disc jockey.
I have all the Lawrence Welk albums.
So, meanwhile, they tell the story of this woman and they have Pete come on and he talks about what a great voice she had.
Now I'm actually curious about her voice.
So, Amy goes to part two of this, or the end of this clip, she...
I pointed this out before, and it's probably the worst in broadcasting radio or television.
She runs her stories together 90% of the time, so you don't know if she's talking about one thing or another.
This one was so egregious.
Is this a prompter issue, do you think?
I think it's her writers.
They just run these stories together.
She's reading from the prompter because you can see her eyes going back and forth.
And it must be a prompter issue, but I think it's also they don't do breaks.
She should go watch Judy Woodruff because the two people that do news rundowns are PBS NewsHour.
In other words, they do a bunch of stories and then there's features later.
They're the only group that does it.
Everybody else spreads it out.
It's kind of a news item feature right on top of it.
But those two do it.
And Woodruff does fine.
She goes from story to story.
You know what story it is.
Amy, no.
She just rattles off all the stuff that's on the prompter.
And this is the worst case I've ever heard.
She catches herself and then makes some boneheaded comment.
But you'll hear this.
Listen to this.
Ronnie Gilbert died on Saturday at a retirement community in the California Bay Area suburb of Mill Valley at the age of 88.
Her death was confirmed by her partner Donna, an immigrant teenage mother, in our final headline, who attempted suicide at a private Texas family detention center after being denied asylum.
Whoa!
Wait, she was gay?
What?
Who?
He?
What?
Who?
Let me listen to that again.
That was good.
Ronnie Gilbert died on Saturday at a retirement community in the California Bay Area suburb of Mill Valley at the age of 88.
Her death was confirmed by her partner, Donna.
Wait a minute.
Now, this is a huge mistake.
That's not just run on.
I think someone eliminated a whole block of copy in the prompter.
She's just reading.
She's not even thinking about what she's reading, John.
Oh, no, she's never thinking.
She just reads.
And that's why she runs these stories together.
She does it all the time.
Nothing quite as bad as this.
That is also borderline clip of the day as well.
That's a good one.
It was just like, wow.
Fantastic.
She gets paid to do this?
Yeah.
Big controversy.
Big, big controversy.
The president, you probably heard this, he was hanging out with Ramey, the Italian president, prime minister, I'm butchering this, and they were out on the balcony somewhere in the White House, and it looked like the president had a pack of smokes in his hand.
What?
Yeah, getting ready to take a smoke.
You can search this, you can just say...
Just type in Obama smoking.
And this came up, of course, in the press briefing after the bomb threat.
Because the president, if he were to be lying about smoking...
And I was a secret smoker for a while in my first marriage, and I was lying about it.
And it gets easy to lie about a lot of things, I think, once you have...
That's a big lie.
I feel.
Yeah, for the President of the United States.
I'm looking at the picture now.
I'm going to play the clip here of the question.
There seems to be a picture that's going around making the news with President Obama meeting with the Italian Prime Minister.
And he has something in his hand.
And there's a lot of question about what this white thing is in his hand.
Can you tell us, is the President, does he have a pack of cigarettes in his hand?
He does not.
He does not.
What was it?
I don't know.
He probably wasn't there.
But, I mean, did he tell you what it was?
No.
You may not be surprised to hear that I have not raised this issue with the President today.
Okay.
Well, the President, as you've acknowledged, he reads media reports, and it's everywhere.
This picture with him holding something...
I'm not sure that's the way I'd describe it.
It is everywhere.
Check it out.
Check it out, man.
It's everywhere.
It's on BuzzFeed.
Well, I mean, the sizing, I'm not a smoker, but the sizing looks like, and it, I mean, so, I mean, so you're saying.
I told you it's not.
They're in cigarettes.
It's not.
Move on.
Move on.
Shut up, slave.
Move on.
Don't say anything about the smoking.
Go ahead.
Shut up, slave.
It's a pack of smokes.
It's a pack of smokes!
You would know?
Yeah.
That's what everybody else thought.
And he's holding it the way a smoker opens up a pack of luckies.
It's probably Cools.
Doesn't he smoke?
Didn't he smoke Cools?
I don't know what he smoked.
Well, he did respond to it.
The president responded to this question.
Grusgott!
There you go, Grusgott!
This was so strange when he was in Germany.
Gruus Gott Heil, everybody!
He should have added that at the end.
Gruus Gott Heil, everybody!
There's a need for a rescue mission.
When the world is threatened, the world needs help.
It calls on America.
And that's the story.
Gruus Gott!
Yeah, he's holding a pack of smokes, there's no doubt about it.
A pack of smokes.
Liars.
We still don't see him smoking, so maybe he just carries around as a prop.
It's a shitty lie, man.
It's a shitty lie.
It's just shitty.
It's not okay.
Sneaking smokes.
Just say it.
I'm hooked.
And people should be right.
You'd probably get more mileage talking about how honest he is.
Yes.
Transparent.
No.
No, no, no.
Can't have any of that.
Um...
So have you seen the picture of the WTC4 building that they're proposing they're going to build?
No, I read something about it that what I read, and this, of course, is a Silverstein property, who had the original two buildings, and they issued the pull order.
Pull it.
And he also didn't want to put a bunch of insurance on these things earlier.
Was it double the...
No, he said he wanted double the insurance because it was two buildings.
Yeah, they finally didn't give him the money on that deal.
Oh, really?
But here, yeah.
I understand he got kind of screwed on the insurance, but WTC4, here's the rundown.
We've got our first look today at the design for the new 2 World Trade Center, the fourth and final tower to rise from the ashes.
80 stories tall, it will resemble a giant staircase.
There's a lady who knows how I like letters.
This is behind a stairway to heaven.
Amen.
Fist bump.
Okay.
I'd get on there.
Is it going to be one of those tallest buildings ever?
No, it's only 80 stories, but it looks like a giant stairway to heaven.
I haven't seen it yet.
It's the stupidest looking building I've ever seen.
And this is by a very young architect, I think.
They had an original architect, a famous architect who did the...
Anyway, they moved that out and they got a new young guy to design it.
Stairway to heaven.
When I was in New York, they have these, they call them, I think, pencil buildings or pen buildings.
And it's a very, very tall building, and each floor is one unit.
Oh, yeah.
It's really creepy.
There's stuff on YouTube that takes you through some of these.
There's a place in Berkeley...
That somebody built like that, only it's even thinner where every floor is one room.
So you want to go to the bedroom and go up two stories.
How does that really work?
Well, I think if it had a big fire pole all the way down to the bottom, it would work well.
But they don't have that.
I don't know.
A fire pole you could slide down in the morning.
Hey neighbor!
All the way down.
Yeah.
Yes.
On just going back to climate change for a moment, because I didn't have this in order.
We have the leap second coming up, which we discussed earlier.
That's such a big deal.
Yeah, well, you know, Google's getting into it because they have to, what they're going to do is they have a 20-hour, what they're calling a smear window, where they will slightly slow down all of the servers so that at the end of the smear window, disgusting thought, smear, smear, oh, we got a smear window.
We got a smear window made out of locks.
Locks.
Locks flavored smear.
But to explain this, How the second comes into play, here's Google's quote.
However, unlike leap years, leap seconds do not happen at regular intervals because the Earth's rotation speed varies irregularly in response to climactic and global geological events.
You would present me this as an email.
Yeah, climate change is slowing down the rotation of the Earth.
Or speeding it up, I don't know.
It won't say.
It's just, huh?
They might as well just say...
Oops.
Oh, that failed.
Never mind.
That failed.
Sorry.
We're all gonna die, is what I was gonna say.
Alright, well I got the follow-up to that.
Make it a great day.
Play that clip.
Make it a great day.
Enjoy.
Okay.
Oh, man.
These are good, John.
I like these.
For the end of show.
I just hear them on the TV. I go, oh.
Talking about hearing something or seeing something.
You see it, you know it.
So my daughter's, one of her best friends, maybe her best friend, the girl whose family is from Georgia.
Not Georgia here, but Georgia in Eastern Europe.
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
She calls me up to tell me this because she said it might be of interest in the show.
And I told her to send me some examples she never did.
Your daughter's girlfriend calls you up?
Yeah.
Does she listen to the show?
Yeah.
So she's a millennial?
Yes, she would be 21, 22.
Fantastic.
And she says...
Is she hot?
She's a pretty girl.
Yeah, okay.
She says...
I'm such a girl.
First of all, she admitted that she's nuts about one thing and one thing only, and she even has a tattoo, and she's going to get another one about this.
She sees hexagons everywhere.
Right.
I bet it's in DSM-5.
She looks...
I'm sure it is.
She looks at a newspaper article and then she'll see hexagons like in the print and she just sees them.
She only...
She called me not to tell me that she sees hexagons everywhere she looks.
Hexagons or honeycombs or just...
Honeycomb hexagon.
It's a six-sided...
Just a six-sided thing.
We had...
Actually, I put one in the newsletter.
Somebody made the earth into...
If you look at a cube and you look at it in two dimensions, it's a hexagon.
Yeah.
Now the reason she called was she's seeing a lot more of them than ever.
And I said, well, the first part is like, okay, you see hexagons everywhere.
I guess that's just an anomaly, an ailment, I don't know.
But seeing more than ever, she says they're cropping up everywhere.
I thought, well, she said that might be a no agenda thing.
I said, well, it could be.
I don't know what it is, though.
But now that it's been revealed, we can...
This is going to be one of these things where...
It's going to be like hearing people say, yeah, no, we're going to see hexagons.
Turn off this program, people.
It's driving everyone crazy.
The yeah, no, and the fact of the matter, all these things.
People are hearing it everywhere because they're saying it everywhere.
There's a new one.
There's a new one that you have.
I have it?
It's another affliction.
Are you ready?
We have a little montage.
Oh, that guy.
And I studied the Civil War to an extreme.
Hitchens hated Clinton to such an extreme.
Not in this clip because he is being cowed by Chris Matthews to such an extreme.
Rand Paul does this to an extreme.
Which has been debunked to an extreme by universities and everybody in between.
Unless somebody's hacked the passport to such an extreme.
How do you feel?
That's great!
Sir LBF sent that in.
Well, actually, when he said that when the first one ran, I recognized it immediately.
I knew that's what it was going to be.
I knew that to an extreme.
And what does it really mean, to an extreme?
Really, so far that it's just the extreme, it's almost the end of the universe, John?
It's more filler.
We've got a three-hour show to fill.
And with that, I would like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C., where it stands for Counting Hexagons, Dvorak.
Yeah.
Well, I want to say in the morning to you, Adam Curry, in the morning to all ships to sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
In the morning to everyone in the chat room, noaginestream.com.
Thank you very much for checking in.
In the morning to all of our artists, and in the morning specifically to Nick the Rat.
Who brought us the Keystone Cops for the previous episode with the tank.
We love the Keystone Cops.
Always good with the Keystone Cops.
And thank you to all artists.
Noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can find all of the submissions for each episode.
They're just so beautiful.
Even though they don't always adhere to what kind of our loose rules are.
For instance, don't use our heads.
We don't like that anymore.
No, we gave up on that because there's hundreds of those.
Yeah, and granted, quite funny, but it's not about us.
It's about the...
It's about the community.
Exactly.
Yes, the community.
Well, we do have a few people to thank for show 7...
What is it?
30...
92.
97.
729er.
729.
I got 792 written down here for some stupid reason.
729.
We want to thank a few people for helping us here.
We've got a couple of executive producers.
Two of them, as a matter of fact.
When I say a couple, I mean two.
Robert Sigro in San Jose, California.
364.
He's a top guy.
He's very specific.
It's Skro.
Skro.
I didn't read his note yet.
Skro.
Skro!
In the morning to you, John and Adam, and thanks to you both, as always, for your courage.
I want to use this time to call out Pete, Jack, and Eric as douchebags.
Douchebags!
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Yeah, I like this new trend.
This is very good.
Well, it's not really where it's show 729, are we?
Oh, but he probably donated this, well...
Yeah, he probably came in late for the last show.
Yeah, yeah.
That's okay.
We'll give you, okay, it's $364.50.
We'll throw in the extra couple quarters.
Yeah, I only got, there's one, and hold on, I think I have another one.
Yeah, I got one here.
There we go.
There you go.
Okay, so we're even.
Now we got it.
Please accept this donation.
Half of today's show episode, a number, towards my knighthood.
And if I could get some karma, I'd be greatly appreciated, of course.
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A half?
A half-er?
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A half-er.
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Huh?
No, half and half is a sex term.
Yeah, I'll bet.
Yes.
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He says, please send me karma.
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I feel better already.
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I'll play it at the end of the show.
Yeah, play it at the end of the show.
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Hey, Werner.
Yeah, sure.
Bergenshoek.
Let me take a look.
Werner Flipsen.
Bergenshuk. Bergenshuk. 2, 4, 5, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.
Holland, he says, and the Wi-Fi stays up.
A mysterious message.
It's code.
Don't say anything else because of his name.
Sir Otaku in Louisville, Texas.
Actually, Louisville is the way they pronounce it there.
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It's been a while since I last donated.
I've been busy upgrading to extra and losing my shirt in competition barbecues.
Oh, well, maybe you should send me an email.
I get ideas.
Make sure you pull the skin off the back.
You know, one of the things about barbecue competition, you don't really cook what anybody actually would get from you in the restaurant normally.
And one of the things, this is where people like to cook ribs.
It's pretty much required, and when you...
Do competitive rib cooking that you tear off the membrane off the backside of the bone side of the ribs, which is a pain in the butt.
You have to, for some, first you got to loosen it off the end ribs and then you got to get it so it's completely a piece that you can, wearing some, so you got to, it's slippery, it's greasy ribs.
And so you got to take both hands and you got to grab that slippery membrane and you got to rip it off the back.
It's not for amateurs is what you're saying.
It's not for amateurs.
So while there's a hiatus in my other hobbies, here is a little bit to help support the best podcasts in the universe.
This donation should put me over the baronet level and my accounting is below.
Maybe I'll run into Adam at HamCom.
Yeah, that's right.
After this show, I take off.
I'm on my way to HamCom in Irving, Texas.
Woohoo!
Oh, really?
And you know what?
K1ZZ's going to be there, John.
K1ZZ? Absolutely.
Mr.
Ham Radio.
He says if I do, I'll buy you, Adam, a beer or two after hours.
Nice.
A beer or two.
Maybe we could get a no-agenda meet-up together over the weekend.
There's a lot of places to go, have a good drink, and I get some mac and cheese karma and little girl yay.
Thanks, Sorotaku.
Yeah.
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ITM, Sir Andrew here, stepping up to the plate, making my way to Barron.
It appears the powers that be, the powers that be can I known.
Whatever.
If it appeases the powers that be, can I be known as the Baronet of Barkway?
Well, of course.
Rode out in the boonies near here.
You get that road, no problem.
My figures, and he's got his numbers.
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Baronet of Barkway.
And Della Dowie.
No, Dawa Adela.
Dawa is a first name.
That's a first name, yes.
Dawa.
In fact, there's a very famous coffee brand in the Netherlands called Dawa Egberts.
Although that may be a last name in that case.
But I know lots of guys named Dawa, which means kind of push.
It means...
If you were to translate it directly and you put the N on the end, dower would mean pushing.
I'm a pusher.
Pusher.
Pusher.
Dower.
Okay, well, it seems to be pushing coffee.
I like the way John pronounced Martin's dick last time.
Martin's dyke.
But that is actually the town where my business is located.
It donates to the show.
I live one town over in Holland Radding.
Holland's Radding.
Good luck with that one, John.
Try it.
Keep up the good work.
Jingles and artwork are also getting better and better.
Try it.
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I can wave to him from the house.
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Hey, citizens.
Thank you for your quote.
This is your neighbor, Baltimore John of North Berkeley.
Hope you didn't get caught up in the zombies that emerged in the wake of the power outage Monday afternoon.
I didn't get a power outage here.
I'm on the same circuit as the police department.
Is that a fact?
Yes.
It's very rare that I have a power outage.
Very rare.
It does happen, but it's rare.
I remember, was it earlier this...
Was it the beginning of the year, maybe?
Or maybe in December?
Yeah, I had to play music for six hours before you had power back.
Yeah, well, that was...
The police were out, too.
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We get a lot of people to send checks, and it says sanity is on the note.
The show truly helps me keep it together.
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Well, we don't have specific work karma.
I think it means jobs karma.
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It's heavy.
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That concludes our executive producers, associate executive producers for show 729.
I want to remind people we do have a show coming up on Sunday.
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He went on and on about it.
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That's what he said.
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I do need to finish up the information segment.
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Am I waiting or are we doing?
I think we should do it because it's just, it's part of the, okay, no, it will be better if we wait.
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Okay.
This is a little aside.
This is the beginning of the NewsHour clip that I have.
This is the last, like, yesterday's show, I think.
Beginning of NewsHour.
Bad sign.
News like you.
Thank you.
Wall Street broke out of a week-long slump today amid hopes for a break in the Greek bailout drama.
Now, I don't remember news that were ever leading.
With the Greeks?
I'm sure they've done it.
But I don't remember them leading with stock market news.
This is a bad sign, people.
Yeah.
Bad sign.
Yeah, that's almost like a locust.
Bad sign.
I was reading something, and I don't know if you discussed it on DH Unplugged.
Where is this from?
I hope it's not Zero Hedge.
No, it's not.
Zero.
Zero Hedge.
It's like natural news.
From Health Ranger Mike!
That's right.
Who was it?
This guy.
Get it through your head.
I know.
I know.
Do you understand?
I know.
I know.
I know you better than you do.
I know.
Oh, geez.
Seed man rocks.
Who is getting these clips?
Everybody.
Everybody.
I know we're not.
Well, they send them to us.
I know, but I mean, we're not.
So the way this article, which is not from Zero Hedge, but is so-called insider news, there is some question as to the charts they're looking at.
There's a lot of technicals and a lot of...
Yeah, technical analysis in this particular article.
But they tie the way the charts are running into the resignation of the two co-CEOs of Deutsche Bank who resigned nine months before their contract was up.
And I know from my New York banker, ex-New York banker friend, that it was already strange.
The co-CEO thing was really weird to start off with at Deutsche Bank.
But they resigned, and this article that will be in the show notes says that there may have been some kind of derivative bomb that went off behind the scenes.
Oh.
And Deutsche is reported to have a $73 trillion derivatives book.
Now, I'm pretty sure...
I sent the article to my ex-banker friend.
He hasn't responded yet.
I'm pretty sure he's going to say, pfft, bullcrap, but...
He probably is.
Yeah.
Well, he usually says more.
He usually tries to explain why.
But it does warrant some attention.
And particularly in light of this, where we have this is the lead story.
Was it the NewsHour?
Yeah.
News hour.
What do you think?
Well, what do you think?
You guys do that.
Well, it's a sign that this kind of thing happens before crashes.
Right.
Where all of a sudden it becomes front of the news.
I don't think they've gotten enough excitement.
The public in general has to start investing like crazy, usually before a real stock market crash.
But there could be a technical one that could be a problem.
But this should not be at the top of the news.
This is not the top news item.
Or is it?
It's not, ever.
Mm-hmm.
As far as I'm concerned, it shouldn't be.
Well, Greece is down to the wire.
I mean...
Yeah, but how long...
This has been the last...
Yeah, I know, I know, I know.
This is like, oh, if we don't do something about climate change by Tuesday, it would be on the front door.
How often have we heard that for the last five years?
Yeah.
Constantly.
Yeah, we've heard it a lot, for sure.
But there's some other strange financial news.
South Korea...
Now, we haven't discussed it on the show, but there's been this ongoing MERS outbreak, and everyone's freaking out.
But it doesn't seem to be that many people in South Korea.
But okay.
I didn't hear about it until last Tuesday when Horowitz told me that he's going to China and he's concerned about this because he has to take a connection back through every MERS hotspot.
Well, the South Korean Central Bank...
Cut their key interest rate to a record low because of the MERS outbreak.
The cut aims to ease negative impact for MERS. What is MERS, John?
What kind of viral thing is this?
Remember, this is the Middle Eastern respiratory syndrome.
It's the thing that the guy who had it in Saudi Arabia went to England, coughed up some blood, and the next thing you know, MERS is a thing.
Maybe Ebola was too tired and they couldn't make it happen over there.
Well, the cut aims to ease negative impact from MERS and prevent consumer sentiment and production from freezing up.
What are they expecting?
Panic.
People not going to malls.
You have to remember that in Asia, malls are like...
I don't care what mall you've ever been to in the United States, multiply it by a factor of 10, and you have an Asian mall.
I would love to go to South Korea.
In fact, Korea is a good example.
They have these giant department stores.
The malls are mostly in China, but in Korea, there's these giant department stores like the Lotto, or Lottie, whatever it's called, and there's a couple other ones.
Hyundai, I think, has one.
Mm-hmm.
And they make Macy's New York, which is a substantial store, look like a heroin shooting gallery.
It's ten times the size, well not really, but five times the size of the Macy's.
And they have a whole floor that's a grocery store, a whole floor that's this and a whole floor that's this.
It's quite a thing.
It's a tourist attraction.
I'd love to go.
I'm sure Don can hook me up with all kinds of cool people.
Yeah, I'm sure he would.
Well, we'll have to see what happens with the funding.
But, you know, we've been kind of expecting this.
And Greece, the problem I was seeing with Greece, I think what we'll see next is there'll be taxes on breathing.
You know, you want four wheels on your car?
No, there's going to be an extra tax.
I don't know if they can rape the citizens of Greece any more than they are already.
Yeah.
I got a kick out of Max Keiser, because they were talking about the Greeks, and he comes up and says this.
Okay, this is what happens when you scapegoat a population, steal all their money, and start putting them into camps, and then exterminate them.
Out of the blue.
Good plan.
Exterminate them!
Oh, well, that reminds me.
Bilderberg is about to go into session.
Oh!
Your favorite drinking club.
They're bringing in cases of champagne as we speak.
Dom Perignon, I'm sure.
And, let's see, the Dutch Prime Minister is invited, Rutte, so he will be going.
And, of course, that will keep our eye on him.
Eric Schmidt from Google.
Eric Schmidt from Google is going, right?
Exactly.
And we have...
The agenda is going to be cybersecurity.
What else was there?
Cybersecurity.
Of course, climate change has to be on there.
And, you know, when the Bilderbergers come to town...
Oh, actually, here's the press release.
Hold on, let me tell you who's going to be here.
Artificial intelligence, cyber security, chemical weapons, threats, current economic issues, European strategy, globalization, Greece, Iran, Middle East, NATO, Russia, terrorism.
So many topics.
Blah, blah, blah.
But you know who's really excited about this?
There's only one guy in broadcast history who is the man when it comes to Bilderberg.
Oh, yeah.
The Seed Man.
Yeah, the Seed Man.
You're not welcome when the leader, when the Führers come to town, Gruppenfuhrer is in town.
You little scum do not come show it.
It's done in secret.
Project of Adolf Hitler.
Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer.
Oh, jeez.
He's a gen.
He's a national treasure, I tell you.
He is.
The more you play these crazy clips that are sent from others, we try to avoid certain things.
There's only so many hours in the day.
I have to say that some of these are just dynamite.
It's entertaining.
I can see why people listen.
Yeah, I think we get the benefit of his art by playing some of his more colorful clips.
Yeah.
He'll be out there with a bullhorn.
Finally, we got a little bit of news about Gitmo Nation East.
The United Kingdoms are...
Looking to implement some new legislation to stop terrorism.
We've played many clips of that with Theresa May, who is arguably the Department of Homeland Security Secretary of State, not State, but Secretary Interior person.
And she could not answer the question as to what extremist views are and what you will or will not be allowed to say or put on social media.
And, of course, we need strong cyber laws and we need to be able to read everyone's email and Twitter has to hand over information, which is a point of contention and is being debated now.
Unfortunately, it's not going to go into effect soon, not this year, which I find sad because, you know, Why?
Well, we need to fill three hours.
You know, the more I can get from this crazy crap they're doing over there, the better.
But here's Teresa setting it up for us.
The operation and regulation of the investigatory powers used by the police and the intelligence and security agencies is a matter of great importance to the security of this country.
and I know an issue of great interest to many members of this House.
As David Anderson makes clear, it is imperative that the use of sensitive powers are all overseen and fully declared under arrangements set by Parliament.
It is therefore entirely right that Parliament should have the opportunity to debate those arrangements in full.
The Anderson Review was undertaken with cross-party support and I believe it provides a sound basis to take this issue forward in the same manner.
In order to ensure that this is the case, the Government will publish a draft bill in the autumn for pre-legislative scrutiny by a Joint Committee of Parliament with the intention of introducing...
Ah.
I've said many times...
What?
If you took this woman and slowed her down and put a bed under her...
We've already done this.
With the music.
With this woman?
I think we did it with her, yeah.
She's really good on this little thing.
Yeah, I didn't have time to do this one, but let me see.
I have...
Yeah?
I can actually mix two of them.
We'll finish the regular and then I will post-produce this, but I have to cut it down a little bit because who cares about some stuff.
...that it is not possible to debate the balance between privacy and security, including the rights and wrongs of intrusive powers and the oversight arrangements that govern them, without also considering the threats that we face as a country.
Those threats remain considerable and they are evolving.
They include not just terrorism from overseas and homegrown in the UK. Did she say they're revolting?
Revolving.
Oh, revolving.
But also industrial, military, and state espionage.
They include not just organised criminality, but also the proliferation of once physical crimes online, such as child sexual exploitation, and the technological challenges that brings.
In the face of such threats, we have a duty to ensure that the agencies whose job it is to keep us safe have the powers they need to do the job.
This legislation is important.
The substance is right, the time is right, and the way in which it has been developed is right.
It is a properly considered, thought-through set of proposals that will help to keep us safe at a time of very significant danger.
It has been drawn up in close consultation with the police and security services.
In an open and free society like ours, we can never entirely eliminate the threat from terrorism.
But we must do everything possible, consistent with our values as a country, to reduce the risk presented by our enemies.
It is a struggle that will go on for many years.
And the threat we face right now is perhaps greater than it ever has been.
And we must have the powers we need, powers we need, powers we need to defend ourselves.
There you go.
To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gate.
Yep.
So that's what's going on over in the UK. Well, what's going on over here is there's a big debate over our attempts to use social media to fight ISIS. Yeah.
So let's play ISIS anti-propaganda fail.
At least 180 Americans are fighting for ISIS, lured by its propaganda machine.
This war is being fought online as much as on the battlefield.
But tonight, the man who was in charge of America's online assault on the ISIS message says that effort is failing.
Margaret Brennan got the interview.
Alberto Fernandez left his job running the State Department's counter-messaging campaign against ISIS. Ooh, counter-messaging campaign.
Like it.
Wait, wait.
Since you interrupted the clip, I think you should go, open your browser and go to Twitter.
Tweeter.
And the counter-messaging...
Is it a hashtag?
No, no.
It's actually a Twitter account with a whopping 27,000, 21,000 followers.
What is it?
Counter...
No.
What do you call it?
At sign.
Yeah.
Think again.
Oh, man.
Underline.
Yep.
DOS. Now, I thought when I first saw Think Again DOS, I said, well, this is some Windows initiative because some people are still using DOS. Bring back the command line!
They're choosing DOS or Think Again because DOS is better.
But no, no, that means Department of State.
That's very, you know, memorable.
Think Again underline.
Oh, yeah, I remember that immediately.
Yeah, and so there it is.
There's your techno experts with their great Twitter handles.
This is the techno expert.
And their actual name is Think Again, Turn Away.
Oh, this is so stupid.
Gay men or men perceived to be gay face grave danger in ISIS-controlled territories.
Hashtag ISIS. Yeah.
Mother of Canadian man killed for fighting ISIS has founds.
Has founds.
They need a copy editor.
Let me ask you a question about this founds word.
Founds.
Jeez.
So this is the best we can do?
Yeah.
Well, that's why this guy quit, so let's listen to him complain.
Alberto Fernandez left his job running the State Department's counter-messaging campaign against ISIS last month.
He said the administration's approach was not aggressive enough.
So do you think then that ISIS is winning the propaganda war?
It's not that ISIS is so great.
It's that the response against ISIS is both limited and weak.
His staff of 50 struggled to compete against ISIS's online army, which posts videos and messages from around 90,000 Twitter accounts.
There's a fantasy which exists in Washington, which is this, that somehow if you put magic social media or public diplomacy pixie dust on a problem, it will go away.
To stop ISIS, he says, the administration must understand its appeal.
ISIS is psychopathic, but that doesn't mean that the people that are attracted to it are attracted to it for the sick, perverse reasons.
One of the challenges we face is that people are attracted to it for what we would call noble reasons.
Noble reasons?
Yes.
What we would think of building things, rescuing people, doing something that is larger than yourself.
So the way it sounds to me, he has or had 50 people.
50 people, which is a lot.
If I had a team of 50 and I wanted to attack the social media, I'd have nothing but fun.
So there are probably a dozen people, maybe all 50, working on this stupid site.
And they're posting, let's see, they're posting, here's two hours ago, two hours ago, three hours ago.
So they're posting quite a bit on here.
Except they haven't posted for two hours.
Oh, wait a minute.
It's because in Washington, D.C., lunchtime is at 12, so the time we're doing this show is right during the break.
And it just probably came off lunch break, so we got three new tweets.
Okay, so they're back from lunch.
It's obvious.
You can see by the times.
They're back from lunch, and now...
Nigeria, suicide bombers, faked fight to attract onlookers.
31 people killed.
Boga Haram.
Hashtag Boga Haram.
If I click on that, is there a whole bunch of Boga Haram hashtag usage, or are they just making it?
No, no, no.
There should be a bunch.
There's a couple, yeah.
Couple.
Someone sent us a note with a picture, which I thought was really important to bring up, about the ISIS, ISIL, IS, advertising, whatever you want to call it, fighters, and how most of them are untrained nincompoops, and when they take pictures of them, those are the brown ones.
You can see the brown face through the...
Mask.
What is it called?
Balaclava?
It's a Mexican wraparound.
Mexican wraparound.
I'm sorry.
Okie dokie, everybody.
In the morning.
These guys always have their finger on the trigger, continuously.
They're waving their guns around.
But when it's the fake guys, our guys, or Z, or Blackwater, whoever else has been contracted to do this, usually they're white guys.
You can see the white around their faces.
You can see their white fingers.
Yeah, the white fingers.
And they are all trained professionals.
And they are holding the weapon correctly with the index finger, the trigger finger, along the trigger guard and not on the trigger itself.
They're holding it straight out.
They're pointing with their finger.
We need to keep an eye on this.
I went to the image search and looked up terrorists.
And there's more than just this example.
You're about to get a knock on the door with that search.
Terrorist images.
No, you think?
I looked up terrorists and images, and I looked at all the pictures, and there's more examples of the professionals than you'd think.
Yeah.
Because I think a lot of these pictures are staged, and I think it's more than just a few, let's put it that way.
He spotted that.
We never noticed it before, but when you start looking intensely, you see a lot, because there's a lot of them.
The whole thing looks...
There's one where they're all in the proper position with the finger and they're lined up perfectly in a long...
I would like all of our producers to be on the lookout for new stories and look at the images.
Let's see if we can see who's who and what new stories are associated.
And we'll be able to track it very well, I think.
I got a note from one of our producers, Anonymous, Adam Dash, of course, is Arabic for ISIS, got that.
As a contractor over here in the sandbox, I can tell you for a fact that we have transported boots on the ground all over to, quote, consult on both the Yemen border and the northern Iraqi border.
And he was sending that from a computer in the desert.
This is not reported directly.
At all.
It does flow into this question about the so-called strategy for the training of the Iraqi troops, and I am uniquely qualified to discuss this topic.
As in 2003, 2004, I was in Iraq with the Dutch Marines.
It was a relatively quiet period at the time.
I was in Samawa province, which is south of Baghdad, north of Basra, kind of in the middle there on the western side.
But we were taken...
different uh tribe tribal leaders almost every single day i was doing a radio show for the dutch radio right after the show they take us out you know there's even a video of me somewhere um uh getting my beard trimmed with the with the strings you know with that crazy uh where they put the the barber has the strings between his fingers and the strings are crossed and it's pretty much just pulling the hairs out Braiding.
What's that called?
Nothing.
I don't know what it's called.
Keep going.
But we also went to a training camp.
As you recall, we were training the Iraqi security force.
We were training them to take care of themselves.
You were training them?
Don't be a dick.
The United States was training them.
Okay.
In fact, I'm going to put a link to the documentary.
There's a 30-minute documentary about that.
You can see some of this and you'll crap your pants when you see this training.
Okay, go on.
Now that you bring this up, I was kind of putting this off as maybe a catch-all at the end of the show, but I have a melodrama that I've produced.
About the situation currently going on, which is they sent 450 people, so this is breaking news, right?
Shall I just play a little background?
I'll just play a little background and then we'll go into your melodrama?
Yeah, go do your finish.
So first, here's the president, what he said.
We've also seen areas like in Ramadi where they're displaced in one place and then they come back in another.
And they're nimble and they're aggressive and they're opportunistic.
So, one of the areas where we're going to have to improve is the speed at which we're training Iraqi forces.
I've got to say it right now.
I went to see the training, and we were the media, and this was a little show, and it was well-known, and we had censors who really did nothing.
So let me add to that, they were on their absolute best seat for you.
Yes, yes.
Because we're media.
And we were doing blog posts and pictures that we talk about on the show.
And the censors gave up on us pretty soon.
This was before techno experts.
We had our own internet connection, so they couldn't do anything to us.
But yes, on their best behavior, best show ever.
And for those of you who are not familiar with the television show Dad's Army, you must look this up on YouTube.
And so you have all these guys in a row, and they have their AK-47s.
And what's going on here?
Someone's...
What is happening?
I hear...
Oh.
Yes?
I don't know.
Someone's calling me.
Someone who doesn't care about the show, clearly.
On their best behavior.
Or does.
So they're all lined up in a row.
And then the command is issued about face...
I swear to God, half of them turned right, the other half turned left.
None of it's a surprise.
These guys, they can't shoot for shit.
These were the highly trained forces that we, as Sphere, Security Forces Iraq, something or other, they've been trained to protect the country.
It was a farce.
It was a huge...
It was completely embarrassing.
I will put a link in the show notes to Operation Iraqi Sunrise, which was what we called the radio show during that week.
And you can see it.
You can see this training camp.
It is hilarious.
All right, so the president comes...
Yeah, this was misrepresented in the media, I found, certainly by Fox News.
Oh, we have no strategy for ISIS. Now, that's not exactly what the president said.
Where we've trained Iraqi forces directly and equipped them, and we have a train and assist posture, they operate effectively.
Train and assist.
Lies!
Where we haven't, Morale, lack of equipment, etc.
may undermine the effectiveness of Iraqi security forces.
So we want to get more Iraqi security forces trained, fresh, well equipped, and focused.
And President Abadi wants the same thing.
So we're reviewing...
He said essentially.
Iraqi forces that are properly trained and equipped and have a focused strategy and good leadership.
And when a finalized plan is presented to me by the Pentagon, then I will share it with It's not...
Here's the payoff.
...yet have a complete strategy because it requires commitments on the part of the Iraqis as well about how recruitment takes place, how that training takes place.
And so the details of that are not yet worked out.
Not yet worked out.
Everyone went batshit over this.
Oh, we have no strategy?
We don't know what to do?
It was only the Republicans who went batshit.
No!
No, here's CNN. Are they Republicans at CNN? Absolutely not.
For being with us right now, Fareed, I don't know what's...
They brought out Fareed Zakaria to explain the confusion.
More notable, that the U.S. doesn't...
Because he's the president's friend.
They drink all the time together.
Root beer or whatever they do.
Yeah, he was flown in to this other program for CNN because he's got the message.
The U.S. doesn't have a strategy, or a complete strategy, to train Iraqi forces to battle ISIS in Iraq, or that the president used those words, again, no complete strategy, because this is something he was roundly criticized for way back in September.
We are all these months later, and there's still no strategy?
I think the problem is this.
We think of this as a technocratic problem.
This is very interesting.
He says technocratic problem, which that's part of, that's a political term, is it not?
I don't know what it is.
I've never heard anyone say technocratic problem.
Well, in the EU, they talk about technocrats who are running the EU. Yeah, it's like the postmodern version of a bureaucrat.
Right.
So he says a technocratic problem, I translate that to a political problem.
The problem is this.
We think of this as a technocratic problem.
Why can't we train these troops faster?
Why can't we get them more arms?
Why can't we ramp up their readiness?
Right.
I'll tell you why.
Because they don't care.
They don't want to do it.
They're forced into these camps to train.
They don't understand anything.
They don't want to die.
How about this?
It's like this keystone cop.
About face!
The problem is political.
I can just see them going every which way, the legs going up and down, up and down, standing in place.
I think on the video there's also a...
Holding a wooden gun.
Yes, yes.
I think there's also a present arms piece in that video.
A couple of guns go out of their hands and go flying once shoots.
The problem is political.
The Iraqi army represents a government that is seen as a Shiite government by the Sunnis.
Remember, the Sunnis are...
Now, this is interesting.
Hold on a second.
This is interesting for a reason that you don't know.
Well, okay.
And you might as well play it, but I don't have it.
I mean, because my little melodrama, I've got...
It's long.
It's nine clips with interludes between each one.
But I had this clip.
What he's about to say, I'm sure it's word for word, what one of these guys said in the melodrama, and it was either...
I think it was General Zini who said it, but it was...
Okay, play, play.
The Iraqi army represents a government that is seen as a Shiite government by the Sunnis.
Remember, the Sunnis are the guys that ISIS draws its recruits from.
So if you don't change the composition of the army, if you don't make concessions to the Sunnis and bring them into the government, then you're building up what is going to be seen by the Sunnis as a Shiite army.
So, the fact that you're training them and equipping them, all great, but when they go in there, the Sunnis are going to say, we prefer ISIS to this.
And that's what's been happening for the last year or two.
But you all, I mean, but right away, I'm sure President Obama even knew himself that he, if he, whatever...
Shut up, stupid, stupid idiot.
What you miss is that he, what you miss though, because we stepped on it, he says the Shiite-Sunni issue is a political problem.
No.
That's a religious problem.
Well, that has been debated since the beginning of this whole affair, since 2003.
I will finish with a 30-second clip from Josh Ernest, then we'll go into your melodrama.
Here's Josh from the podium talking about the training.
Training, advising, and assist operations will bolster the capacity of both the Iraqi security forces as well as the Sunni tribal fighters in Anbar.
That are operating under the command and control of the Iraqi central government.
And that will further our strategy to So here's what I'm hearing, and then I'll be done.
First of all, we know from Agent Orange, our man on the scene, he's been in Iraq, he's in Kandahar, he's all over the place.
We have a direct line of communication with him.
It's part of what he does.
He's definitely our handler, but that's okay.
He's all pro-military, anti-politics, I kind of would surmise, that we have the so-called advisors or consultants.
The way it works is they're complete warriors and they're just saying, hey, watch how I do this.
To these guys who can't even figure out what about-face is.
And now, we're going to have air support.
In order to use air support effectively, you have to have people on the ground, boots on the ground, painting the target.
So the way I see it is we're just training these guys to go in there with an antenna on their head so that we can just take everything out.
Including them, probably.
Well, I think there's an element of that, and I think that's what you're going to be told.
But I have the...
There's a story behind...
There's something else going on.
And this was a presentation on PBS NewsHour, which I've reduced to about four or five minutes.
This is big for you.
Yeah, you've done a lot of work here, I can say.
It's long, but I cut out these guys going back and forth.
And first, let's introduce the players.
Play a clip, Melodrama, The Players.
Okay.
I have most of these numbers.
Yeah, when you do these...
I didn't go back.
I started, I said, here's what happened.
I'm going to tell you.
I started taking these clips and said, well, there'll be three or four.
And then I said, oh, crap.
And there's another, and another, and another.
And I ended up with nine clips, but the first three didn't get numbered.
Just for future sake, when you do this, which I like a lot when you do this, so you have, they're all named Melodrama, but you can do Melodrama-1-2-2 before you get to the description of what it is.
I'd like to do that.
Yes.
Okay.
Joining me now to review today's announcement and the fight against the Islamic State are former U.S. Defense Secretary and CIA Director Leon Panetta, former Commander-in-Chief of U.S. Central Command, retired General Anthony Zinni, former Undersecretary of Policy at the Department of Defense, Michelle Flournoy, and retired U.S. Army Colonel Andrew Bacevich.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome the team from Project Pundit.
Now, this thing went on for a good half hour, it seemed like it.
It probably was 20 minutes.
It was very long.
But this Bacevich guy, the colonel, I was thinking, well, everybody's a general or something, and the woman's an undersecretary of state.
She didn't really have much to contribute except a bunch of cliches.
But this colonel, I was thinking, why did this guy make general?
He's got a bunch of books out.
He's the most ornery guy.
What's his name again?
Zini?
No, Zini is the general, who used to be CENTCOM. Yes, Central Command.
This guy, Bacevich or Bosevich, is a colonel, and I was thinking, why didn't...
I believe there's a lot of colonels, because you get these guys that they never could make general because they were troublemakers from the get-go.
And they wouldn't play the game.
And he is the one guy in this group that is not playing the game that apparently, if you listen to this, Panetta is still playing.
He's still on somebody's payroll.
Well, he has the Panetta group.
He has a big consultancy.
Well, he's also, yeah, right, and I'm sure he's getting direct money from the government, because he is government, he is the government's spokeshole here, telling us the litany of what's going on, and he reveals, I think, in this little presentation near the end, what's really, this is all about this, oh, what's the big scandal about 425 advisors?
Let's play, here's where the colonel jumps in.
Well, I think it's a very modest adjustment to the existing policy, and the emphasis here is on very modest.
The policy is based on the assumption that we have the capability to create effective Iraqi forces.
Now, when you think about it, we've been trying to do that for 10 years now.
We've not succeeded.
And I'm a little bit skeptical that the addition of 450 trainers is going to make that much of a difference.
I'm sure that they'll be able to transfer some important skills to the people that they train, but will they be able to transfer the will to fight, which would seem to be the fundamental problem with the Iraqi forces that have basically been taking a licking from ISIS? So Zinni jumps in,
and he kind of agrees with the colonel, and while he's talking, and these are little clips amongst the longer speech, while he's doing this, Panetta is getting steamed up.
The general chimes in.
Okay.
Well, I think it's an indication that we continue to underestimate the capability of ISIS, the enemy, and overestimate the capabilities of the Iraqi military to deal with this.
The strategy from the beginning has had several flaws, in my view.
Yeah, the guys don't want to do it.
Several flaws from the beginning.
Who's sitting there that has something to do with those flaws?
Yeah, him.
Him.
Well, him too.
But Panetta is the one that they're all aimed at.
By the way, Panetta's really pissed off by the end of this.
And I cut all these out, but at the beginning of most of these little spiels back and forth between these people, they started with, and Woodruff jokes about it at the end, they all started with, with all due respect.
I respectfully disagree.
You've got to help me, man, because I don't know what you want me to play.
Now we go to Panetta comes in with his first bunch of bullshit.
This is melodrama Panetta gets hackles up for.
Why shouldn't Americans be concerned that if the Iraqis don't have the will to fight, why should more U.S. trainers make a difference?
This isn't just about Iraq.
Oh man, he's pissed off here.
I can hear it.
This is about a threat to our national security.
If ISIS is allowed to have a base of operations in Iraq, make no mistake about it, their intentions are to use that as a base of attacking our country and attacking our homeland.
That's why we've got to push the Iraqis.
To make sure that the Sunnis do engage and that they're armed and that the Kurds do the same.
Wait a minute.
Can I ask you a question?
Yeah.
Did he just say that the dad's army, those jabronis...
The guys in the Hilux Toyotas.
No, no.
The jabronis who are supposed to...
are being trained, that they're directly responsible for protecting the homeland?
Yeah.
He said that too.
But my thinking was still the funniest part is that the whole ISIS thing is to come after us.
With their Toyotas.
And to iterate that actually in a better way further on with the melodrama.
But this is like...
In what?
Their F-15s?
In their battleships?
How are they going to get over here?
Okay, so let's go.
The next one is...
I love it when you do it.
The Toyotas on floats.
Toilet is on floats.
Melodrama Colonel.
The Colonel now has got his hackles up after Panetta just kind of attacked him because he talked longer and he was really attacking this Colonel, the book writer.
And so here we go.
Strikes back?
Yeah, this is a Colonel Retort 5.
I think Secretary Panetta is vastly exaggerating the threat posed by ISIS. The threat posed by ISIS to the United States of America is actually very, very limited.
We probably should be worrying more about drug lords in Mexico in terms of a direct threat to our safety.
Get him off the air.
Get him off the air.
So he's not putting up with Panetta.
So now we have Panetta Clip 6 play Panetta's coming back.
Well, look, again, I don't think there's any question that our national security interests are involved here.
Otherwise, why would we even be there in the first place?
Oh, let me think.
Turf, resources, hookers, it's always the same.
The reality is that we know how to do this without deploying the 101st Airborne or a large number of brigades there.
I mean, the fact is, we're good at counterterrorism.
That's what we did in Iraq before we left.
That's what we did in Afghanistan.
Yeah, how'd that work out?
Well, that's what the Colonel does.
Now, we're going to skip clip seven, because that's the meaningful clip that I'm going to save to the end, and go to eight, which is the melodrama, Colonel Strikes Back.
He starts his retort with a laugh based on what's going on and on about how great we are.
Why isn't that the right way to move forward now?
Again, with all due respect, we don't know how to do this.
I mean, we were in, the U.S. military was in Iraq from 2003 and 2011.
Four years later, we have this basket case on our hands.
So the notion, I think it's important for us to recognize that there are some problems that American military might cannot solve.
This is how Vietnam started.
In fact, Zinni, I don't have the clip because, again, this was a half an hour of these.
Zinni says this.
Oh, really?
Yeah, General Zinni says, this is how Vietnam started.
We sent in some advisors.
We sent in some more advisors.
We sent some feet in the ground.
Next thing you know, we're in this stupid war that we can't get out of.
So he says the same thing.
Panetta's not putting up with any of it because he's got the government, the line of bull crap that he has to deliver.
So this is the clip nine.
This is melodrama.
Panetta strikes back.
You know, we've learned time and time again, particularly in these last few years, with crisis after crisis, that if the United States doesn't provide leadership in these crises, nobody else will.
I don't know who the hell he expects we're going to be able to turn to, to be able to protect our national security in this situation.
The United States is going to have to provide that leadership.
And yes, we need to work with the Iraqis.
And yes, we need to work with other allies in the region, but we have to provide that leadership.
We can't just stand on the sidelines wringing our hands.
I mean, ask the people of Paris what happened there with ISIS. Ask the people in Brussels what happened there with ISIS. What happened in Toronto?
What's happened in this country as a result of the threat from ISIS? This is a national security threat, and we shouldn't kid ourselves about that.
Now, within the whole range of things he was saying, this clip set, a drama shorty clip, most meaningful.
When he said this, this is Panetta again, I said, oh, this is what this is really about.
Let's go back to this old scheme.
In order to move ISIS out of Iraq and then take on ISIS in Syria.
This has got to be part of that larger strategy.
Wow.
And that's what it's been about all along, to have a reason to go and take Syria, take Assad out.
That we didn't do, I guess it was talked out of, Obama was talked out of the bombing we were supposed to do.
Yeah, the red line.
Yes, because of the red line and all that.
They just can't get this out of their craw because there is still Russia and, you know.
Iran.
Syria, we got to get them out of there for some reason because of some pipeline coming through.
Yeah.
But this whole thing is huge.
That's why I called it a melodrama.
It is a bunch of bull crap.
This is all about finding some way to still get Bashir out of there.
Assad.
Good job, John.
Let me celebrate this work you did.
Excellent work.
Excellent.
Excellent.
Yeah.
Who was the colonel again?
That was the colonel.
His name was Bacevich.
Bacevich.
And he's got some books saying that we suck or something.
Yeah, he should not get into a hot tub that has a lid.
He was definitely not playing by the rules of the game.
Wow.
And then it was just getting more red as the thing went on.
He felt it was a personal attack on him or something.
I don't know.
Well...
Yeah, his whole Panetta...
It's a personal attack on him.
I think he has the Panetta Institute, I think is what it's called.
Yeah, the Panetta Institute.
Yeah, so he's got a lot of...
He's heavily invested in the game.
Did you see the Ayatollah Khomeini speak?
No.
Well, I have.
I don't understand.
I know that we're working on this deal with Iran, the nuclear deal, and the Ayatollah came out and did a little speech, and I have an on-the-fly translated version, which I believe to be the translation that was made in real time and were some dignitaries who were sitting in the audience.
It was a whole video thing.
In this beautiful room.
It's not even a room.
It was like a big stadium and it had one of those mecca blocks in the middle.
It's pretty stuff they got.
They had a Mecca block in the middle?
Yeah, of this huge auditorium.
Kind of like, well, yeah.
I'll have to look up what it is.
There's a name for that thing.
Yeah, the Mecca block.
Mecca from the block.
Here is the translated version of what he was saying.
Well, today, both the ISIL, Al-Qaeda, and the like are being supported by the U.S. and Israel.
As well as some of the famous Islamic, some of the movements that are known as Islamic, but they are miles away from Islamic ideology and jurisprudence.
You can identify and get to know about world affairs and try to Comprehend and identify the right stance.
Now, the same way we see these savage, brutal acts of ISIL, the same way we oppose it, both in Iraq and Syria, we oppose the brutal acts of the U.S. federal police inside the U.S. They're both similar to each other.
The slogan of death to America.
Death to America!
That was cool.
He says, the ISIS and Al-Qaeda are run by America and Israel, and they're just as brutal as the federal police in America against their own citizens.
Yeah, I'll give him an amen fist bump for that.
There's a lot of evidence to show he's right.
Oh my goodness.
Huh.
Yeah, well, they got a clue.
Because there's been plenty of people that have testified that the CIA started this whole thing.
We have the document.
We have the document.
It was the whole strategy.
That was the proposal document.
That was the RFP. Yes.
That proposed it in 2011.
Yes.
What can we do?
What can we do?
And they even named it, the Islamic State, in the document, and that document was released by Freedom of Information Act, and it shows that we were at least talking about doing this, and we did it.
And the other thing that's noteworthy, and you've pointed this out, is that why aren't they all anti-Israel?
Why aren't there attacks by ISIS and ISIL and Al-Qaeda in Israel?
Yeah.
Yeah, baffling.
Yeah, it's a stunner.
It's completely baffling.
Good work on that, John.
I like that a lot.
That's something we should pull out and keep for later, for posterity's sake.
Are we ready to leave the Middle East?
Yes.
I have a note that came in from our economic hitman.
He lives.
He does live.
He must have broken up with his Russian girlfriend.
Yeah, who was pissed at him.
State Department's security, whatever.
She must have been hot.
Russian, let's see, Russian spy, hot?
They have that theory.
Of course, our spies aren't bad looking, generally, at least some of them.
Today, so he goes on about having a lunch.
I can tell you that the U.A., this is the only note, the rest of it was just personal.
He's talking about watching Mr.
Robot.
I can tell you that the USA is pouring money into Nigeria, Cameroon, Chad, but not as much in Chad, and other neighboring states to forestall Boko Haram ISIS growth They're doing some of it through USAID contracts rather than direct military subsidies because they know that Nigeria will just absorb the money without much result.
So it is, I guess, even with the new guy.
So it is a feat on the ground by government contractors and not the usual NGO types.
Oh, that means trouble.
Yes, it's standing in the security types with short hair and serious attitudes.
Ooh.
You know, the jackals.
The jackals.
Yeah, the jackals.
The Z guys.
Blackwater, those guys.
I'm happy to be in Burma on my trips over Western, over my trips.
Very important, John.
Notice he says Burma.
CIA and all the guys who are really on the inside, they say Burma.
I got this from Uncle Don.
It's funny.
I'm sure he did that.
And they're really anal about that.
Yeah.
Well, he says Burma.
And, of course, I'm sure he was not aware of that.
That was probably a mistake.
But he did it.
On my trips over Western Africa, he says he's happy to be in Burma over any trips over Western Africa anytime, because it's better.
Unfortunately, I must go or send someone in my place.
So someone in his group, whatever group it is, has to go back to Western Africa.
So he's probably going to have to go back.
Yeah.
Is he not afraid of Ebola?
No, I don't think he's commented on Ebola, but he doesn't seem afraid of Ebola.
That was just some bull crap.
Anyway, so there you go.
It's our African update.
No other show in the world will give you this sort of information.
I think you're right.
We are pretty much...
Yeah, we're the only people that do this thing.
As far as I know.
If there's another show out there, I'd love to know so that we can...
Listen to it and get some good ideas.
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Okay, so the clip is Apple Music illegal.
Yeah, that's part of it.
Apple Music, the streaming service that the company announced this week is facing scrutiny in New York and Connecticut, while the attorneys general of those states are now investigating the negotiations Apple made with music companies while developing the service to look for signs of potential antitrust violations.
Nice read, lady.
Your analysis, John.
Well...
New York and Connecticut have always been the two states with the strong, they have the strong attorney general that just goes after everybody for anything.
You look at them cross-eyed and they'll sue.
And they are the ones who do a lot of the initial, a lot of these initial things, like when they busted up, or they didn't bust them up, but when they went after Microsoft, I think it stems from the Connecticut thing.
And then other people join in later if they make headway because they're given a green light within their own state.
And I think that probably they'll find something, because I don't think Apple is...
This is not good for anybody.
I don't know who it's good for except Apple.
I got a lot of responses about...
This is directly from the Apple Worldwide Developers Conference keynote, which, man, I miss Steve.
Whew.
Well, the other thing is that this style, I think we talked about this, Horowitz and I talked about it, which is the problem.
This style of presentation is 1980s.
This is a 30-year-old style of presentation.
Dark room, stupid music, come out in black.
Church, a bunch of shills in the audience.
It's like a church, man.
It's a cult.
It's very much like a church.
And I've always thought that when it's done properly, very church-like, which means a lot of solemnity.
Well, there's some problems cropping, just sneaking into it.
And I thought up until they announced the music thing, it wasn't too bad.
I like the women they're bringing up, but I don't think they're particularly good presenters.
I think it was definitely dull.
Yeah.
What I... Something that I think is a very bad precedent and they should stop immediately is making Eddie Q the funny guy in all the presentations.
Look, there's Eddie with a hat.
Look, there's Eddie doing karaoke.
I don't get the genesis of this.
Oh, Eddie was Steve's guy.
When I met Steve Jobs for the private meeting...
Was this the guy who expected to take over the company?
Yeah, I think...
I think so, yeah.
Oh, so they're just humiliating him?
That's what it seems like.
But Eddie is in the, certainly, because he ran iTunes previously, and then he ran the App Store.
Now he runs, I don't know, everything except being CEO. He has some kind of magical powers.
But he is the, in the music business, people suck Eddie off because he makes the deals.
So here's what I understand is going on.
Apple has been an all-out assault against Spotify, of course, and they bought Beats as a part of that for their radio thing.
It's not radio when you have a playlist.
It's not radio.
It's a playlist.
It's not radio.
And this is part of a larger strategy, which I think is an interesting one and probably a very good one.
Apple is going directly to the artists.
The difference in money you make through the Apple ecosystem as an artist is tremendous.
We're talking 30-40% more money Across the board that you could make in the Apple ecosystem, including whatever they're going to do with Beats.
Is really good for the labels.
The labels make so much money on their catalog.
There's even label guys who are saying, we shouldn't even make new records.
Screw it.
Why would we waste our money on that?
Right.
This is a big deal, what you just said, because it was written up in Variety and all sorts of places.
And there's one other bit to this.
About just drop the musicians.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And there's one other piece that all of the label heads all have stock in Spotify.
Their entire mission is to hype this thing up.
We're going to have a massive IPO, which will be another money-losing company that's going to go public.
They're all going to sell into the IPO. They'll make out like bandits, billions of dollars.
And Spotify will kind of die off slowly, I believe.
But the artists are being brought into the Apple fold.
And here's why Apple's strategy is interesting.
Let me stop you before you go to the strategy analysis.
Don't most artists sign their life away to the labels and they can't do what you're describing?
Not every deal is standard.
So, yes...
But it all depends on how many records you have to make.
If you have a multi-album deal.
But the idea is clearly to get the bigger artists who have more say on different deals.
And also just unknowns.
Just anyone who wants to release something.
It's going to be a better deal.
The indies and the big guys.
It's going to be a better deal.
A much better deal for them.
And the Spotify thing is just, you know, a huge hype, as I said, for all these guys to cash in and make...
All right, what's the Apple strategy?
Go on.
Sorry.
Okay.
So outside of that, Apple is doing some...
They're zigging to the cloud zag, and I like this.
So their Spotlight is what I was really interested in.
So I have Spotlight running on...
On the MacBook Air that I produced the show on.
And although not great, the improvements that they're putting in there are effectively...
Bringing all search local.
So instead of using a cloud system like Google, this is a direct assault on Google.
They are, so now Spotlight, which is Apple's local search system, but it's also in iOS for the iPhones and iPads.
It is now searching through your own stuff.
It is going out there.
They're indexing sites.
You can use natural language query.
And I'm pretty sure If it's not happening already somewhere in the background, I think they're going to create a distributed search engine with all of their devices through their operating system.
And I think it will kick Google's ass long-term.
And it's not in the cloud, and they really push the privacy aspect, the security aspect.
It's your stuff.
We don't sell it to people.
You're saying things like, why would we sell your information to somebody else?
No, Apple doesn't have to do that.
I think it's a very, very good strategy.
Distributed search...
You're assuming it is a strategy, based on your presumptions.
Yes, I think it's a strategy.
I think it's a strategy, and you will see Spotlight becoming...
It's going after Google, and it makes so much sense.
We know this for a fact.
This is in their DNA. Yeah, part of their sexuality.
Sexuality is part of their DNA. To hate Google, because Google stole prematurely the iOS style of interface for phones.
When the Android phone came out, I don't believe any Apple strategist, because that phone was a revolutionary new idea for smartphones, which have been around.
Microsoft invented the smartphone, as far as I can tell.
And they came with this revolutionary way of doing it while Eric Schmidt was on the board, so he knew all about it, and so he can give them a heads up over on the other side on his company and get them started on this, even though, I guess...
Steve and all the rest of the people on the board had no idea that, well, would Google the search engine?
Why would they do a phone?
That makes no sense, so let's tell them all about it.
That had to be the thinking, and that gave Google a way head start on everybody else because they probably could start it right within the invention itself, which had to be 2005-2006 timeframe.
So they were just right on their tail almost immediately.
Apple should have had Another two or three years to itself.
To get more market share and to pretty much take over the smartphone game.
But they didn't because Google is believed they cheated.
They did.
I mean, they took the idea.
And so Apple was irked about that.
Eric was fired, thrown off the board by Steve.
And he was irked.
Everybody knows this.
He was mad as hell.
He wasn't going to take it anymore.
And I think he pushed that concept right deep into the company.
And so they're out to get Google, sure.
So your theory makes sense from that perspective.
And I haven't heard this analysis anywhere else.
No, you won't.
What analysis is that?
Sorry, what am I thinking?
Look at the size of the screen.
It's thinner.
It's thinner.
Oh, we can do native apps on the watch.
I'm puking in my mouth, people.
Tech horny people.
And then finally, tomorrow, despite the lawsuits, it has been 60 days since it was filed in the Federal Register, net neutrality, the laws go into effect as of tomorrow.
No, I didn't.
Well, no, of course you didn't know that.
You're not tech horny.
Weren't the tech reporters telling us this left and right?
Uh, yeah, no.
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Yeah, that is a very popular subscription.
That's a year and a half, so you'd be a knight quickly.
That's actually pretty quick.
That's good.
Sir Brian Williams, though he's also J.M. Green of Hams.
He's a 7373.
I should have his call letters there.
I don't.
Gilles Pavot.
Gilles Pavot.
One of the few French donors listeners You should get out of France, man.
If people find out about it, you're going to be in trouble.
Yeah, you know what?
They're nonplussed.
They don't care.
Michael Shulver in Birmingham, West Midlands, UK, $71.
Sir James Zukal in Los Angeles, California, $69.69.
Sir James Cates in Virginia Beach, Virginia.
Hello, Virginia, $69.69.
In honor of his sweet Lisa Lynn.
Does she have a birthday, or is it just in honor of?
I think it's just in honor.
Hey, baby, I donated $69.69.
Get it?
Yeah, say hint.
Hey, say no more, baby.
Hint.
Uh-huh.
Get it?
Uh-huh.
Eric Olsen, Water Valley, Mississippi.
Uh, 6969.
He says, donations dropped after the 6969 gimmick was dropped.
I'm bringing it back.
No, it's retired.
We have quite a few of these.
Jim Bickhouse in St.
Louis, Missouri, 6969.
Also, Eric Sprangers in Amersfoort, the Netherlands.
Amersfoort.
Amersfoort.
Eric Sprangers.
Eric Sprangers.
Amersfoort.
In Amersfoort.
Henry Reese in Nagoya, Japan, also 6969.
What is up?
Keith McColpin in Imperial, Pennsylvania, 6884.
It has meaning to him.
Stephen Yarosh.
He says that's the Richard Quest donation.
68.84?
Yeah.
This participation would have to donate this amount every time Adam has to bring up Richard's story on this show.
Oh, this amount totals the cost of a glass dildo, a rope, a rental of the movie Meth Head on Amazon.
We have the craziest business.
It's a good number.
I'm all for the 6884.
The Richard Quest donation.
Stefan Yarosch in Wakefield, Massachusetts.
That's 6666.
Thomas Goetz in Dortmund, Deutschland.
Where they make Dortmunder Kroner.
Dortmunder pills.
I don't know.
One of them.
Pills.
Michael Olson in Austin, Texas.
Right down the street from you.
5555.
He's been listening since he was in elementary school, he says.
How cool is that?
Wow.
I hope, yeah.
Well, it could have been eight years.
Kalen Nistor in Northville, Michigan, 55-10.
Double nickels on the dime.
That's the only one.
Zachary Staley in Cincinnati, Ohio, 51-15.
Gary Howell in Houston, Texas, 51-11.
James Streck in Miamisburg, Ohio.
I think, is that where the University of Miami is around there?
5033, that was Streck.
And then we have Christopher Barth in Karlsruhe, somewhere in Deutschland.
5002, and then onward to...
Whoops.
Yeah.
Okay, this is another...
Oh, never mind.
Curtis Sarles in Bay City, Michigan, 50.01.
David...
It's Lumo, Lumel, or something.
I don't...
Limo, Limo, Limo.
Limo.
In Berlin.
Nice.
51 cent.
He must apologize for his first donation.
He says, I'm a listener to your show since episode 588.
He finally donated.
I got hit in the mouth by my brother-in-law.
Fabian, douchebag number one.
Douchebag Douchebag.
Douchebag number two is his best friend, Chris.
Douchebag.
Who I successfully hit in the mouth and neither have donated.
Jasper Wall in Parts Unknown, $50.
These are all going to be $50 donors.
Place and location.
Stephen Woolard in Victoria, B.C., near Sposum.
Andy Clements in Trim.
Meth, Ireland.
Meth, I guess.
Richard Gardner, parts unknown.
Sir Richard Gardner.
Donald Adams of San Francisco, California.
Christina Caldwell in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia.
Uh...
I'll move the cursor.
Robert Dreykoson in Oshkosh, Wisconsin.
Jason Brockman in Hamilton, Ohio.
Antonio McMullen, parts unknown.
He's also in for $50.
Hold on.
The Oshkosh is Robert...
Yeah, he has a douchebag call-out.
Oh yeah, douche...
Right, right.
We have a douchebag call-out from Robert.
And it says, douchebag call-out to my cousin Jim.
Douchebag!
Jason Brockman in Hamilton, Ohio.
Antonio McMullen, parts unknown.
Paul Vela, Sir Paul Vela in Milton Keynes, UK. David Peet in Aubrey, Texas.
Jan van der Laan.
In Austin.
Drenta.
Drenta.
That's it.
And that would be the end, yes.
In fact, we don't even have any 49ers in here.
That's weird.
I want to thank everybody.
Of course, everyone who was on the monthly donations and also, obviously, our associates and executive producers for today.
Thank you all very much.
This is what keeps the show going.
It is the value for value proposition.
It seems to at least keep us going for eight years.
Keep it on.
Keep it up.
Keep going.
I'd like to give deducing to everybody who deserves it.
You've been deducing.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
Yay!
You've got karma.
And a reminder that we will be doing a show on Sunday.
I'll be rushing back from HamCom.
On Saturday, of course.
With Ham News.
Oh, yeah.
Maybe I'll get an exclusive interview with K1ZZ. Yeah, he's Mr.
Ham.
That's right.
Andrew Brewer, happy birthday to him today.
Michael Hernelstein says happy birthday to Brad Bauer.
Oh, there we go.
He was on the list, 42 today.
Eric Sprenger is 43 on June 18th.
Henry Reese will be swazzling off 69 on the 19th.
And Stephen Willard also celebrating today.
Happy birthday to all of you from the staff, management, and families from the best podcasts in the universe.
Then we have a correction, Sir Alan Bean.
We said on 726 that he was a baronet.
No, he is the baron of Diamond District in Oakland.
Yeah, Diamond District.
Today, Sir Otaku.
He's going to have taken all of Oakland.
But we have another Oaklander that Benjamin Smith follows the show.
He's going to probably have to take Fruitvale.
Sir Otaku becomes a baronet today.
Sir Andrew Haverson becomes the baronet of Barkway, the rural road out there, which we're happy to have him add that to his protectorate.
And then we have one night today, Michael Voss.
I'd like him to step up on this.
Be careful.
I'd like him to step up on the podium.
And Sir Michael Voss for Sir Evergreen.
Michael, thank you very much for your contribution in the amount of $1,000 or more, and we hereby are very happy to pronunciate you Sir Evergreen Knights of the Noah General Roundtable, and for you we have hookers and grow, rent boys and chardonnay, raspberry pies and breakfast burritos, drams and DMT, root beer and Legos, malted barley and hops, maker's mark and mushrooms, Cuban cigars and single malt scotch, three geishas and a bucket of fried chicken, hot pants and booze, wenches and beer, geishas and sake, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, and...
Mutton and mead.
Go to noagentonation.com slash rings.
And we've been getting more and more tweets of people showing their certificate, their sealing wax, and their hit-em-in-the-mouth signet ring, which is really pretty.
It's really pretty.
And a lot of people are good photographers.
They present the documentation very well.
It's got an angle.
It's well lit.
Nice.
Very nice.
This was a little funny that I just picked up.
We often talk about the scam that is Al Sharpton and his...
Was it the National Action Network?
Yeah, I guess.
You want to briefly explain how that works?
Well, the idea is this was perfected.
This has probably been perfected way before these guys, but the...
Rainbow Coalition from Jesse Jackson was one of the better versions of it.
And I think it's probably still one of the best exemplifies the problem.
You go into a CEO, first you target a company, and you have to find some company that's got like, they don't have enough black people working there, let's say.
And you go and you meet with the CEO, and you say, we noticed a couple of things.
One, you don't have a lot of black people working here, and there's a lot of people complaining about it.
This is my version.
It's a problem.
A lot of people complaining about it, and it might cause some protests.
A lot of people in our organization want to protest and want to picket your place and want to point this out to you.
And we noticed another thing that's kind of interesting.
You've never donated to our operation, ever.
There's no list.
You're not listed anywhere.
That's strange.
I don't see your name on my call list.
And I just let you know that this is going on and I'm trying to hold them back.
I'll hold them back.
It'll keep this from happening.
You might want to think about donating because that at least gives you something, you know, some leverage.
And they, you know, oh shit, yeah, and they do a check for, you know, 10 grand or whatever it is.
And then that keeps the operation going.
Now, I've heard stories that a bunch of companies have hired private investigators because they're not putting up with this crap.
Because it's extortion, but it's kind of legal.
And there's stories where Jackson walks into a CEO's office and the guy shoves an envelope over to Jackson.
I guess he's got pictures of his mistresses or something.
Here you go.
And Jackson just gets up and leaves.
There was a black preacher on, I forget his name, but it'll be mentioned at the beginning of the clip, on Greta Van Susteren's show.
She has the most peculiar mouth.
She had a lot of work done.
Oh, is that what it is?
Yeah, no, she was a very outrageously not fit for television look for Fox.
And she knew days were numbered as she got older, so she had a lot of work done, and it kind of...
I think it was a shit-crap job.
Yeah, certainly.
There will be some bruising for three or four days, really.
It's not going to be that bad.
So here she is, and this guy was...
I like it.
I like it when people come out and just call it the way it is, and particularly if they get exposure.
Obviously, on Fox, it's much easier.
Pastor Marcus Mosiah Jarvis joins us.
Good evening, sir.
I read that you accused Reverend Sharpton of being a pimp.
Hold on.
Yes, that would be the case.
So what happened?
Well, they were holding a Stop the Violence rally in Hartford, Connecticut, and I guess his invite was supposed to bring some attention to the plight in the city of Hartford.
But once the rally and the march was ended, there was a gathering at Shiloh Baptist Church And there was a offering or a demand for money.
And I thought that that was hypocritical and contradictory to the cause.
How are you going to ask a crime-riddled neighborhood that's impoverished for $100 each donation and without cause?
They didn't say what the money was going to be used for.
And so I thought it was pimpism at its best.
But resist, we much.
We must and we will much about that be committed.
Pimpism at its best.
Nice.
Another thing that happened that was really nice to see was, and only this kind of guy can do it, Jerry Seinfeld.
You probably saw this.
I don't know if I have.
Oh, okay.
Is he driving around in cars?
No, no.
He was on, what is it?
One of the Kimmel?
I have not seen it.
Jerry Seinfeld thinks young people today.
I'm sorry.
That's not the clip.
This is the clip I want.
Here we go.
Comedy is, I do think, is supposed to push the line, push towards lines in the medium.
There are more people now who will let you know if they think you went over the line than ever before.
Don't I know it.
I mean, you have to feel the same way about comedy.
Yeah, but they keep moving the lines in for no reason.
Right.
I do this joke about...
The way people need to justify their cell phone.
I need to have it with me because people are so important.
Well, they don't seem very important the way you scroll through them like a gay French king.
Well...
That's very offensive to the gay French kids.
Yeah.
I did this line recently in front of an audience.
And there are comedies where you can kind of feel like an opinion.
And they thought, what do you mean gay?
What are you talking about gay?
What are you saying gay?
What are you doing?
What do you mean?
You know?
And I thought, are you kidding me?
I mean, we can't even...
I could imagine a time, and this is a serious thing, I can imagine a time where people say, well that's offensive to suggest that a gay person moves their hands in a flourishing motion and you now need to apologize.
I mean, there's a creepy PC thing out there that really bothers me.
It's called cultural Marxism.
I'm happy he did that.
It's a good joke.
Yeah, well, especially if you visualize a gay French king, you know, it's just like it's one of those types of gays.
Yeah, it's more visual.
Yeah, I can see people hiss.
I'm surprised they didn't get hissed.
He can't even do college shows anymore.
Oh, he said, yeah, he and a lot of other comics have commented on this, that they can't do college shows.
Actually, I think I have...
Bill Maher is the last guy that can do college shows.
Oh, yeah, because they're all in with him.
Here, I think this is...
I wasn't going to play it, but this mentions the college thing.
This is from the Today Show, I believe.
Jerry Seinfeld thinks young people today are too politically correct for his comedy.
He says this time there is...
Something wrong with that.
The former sitcom star is raising some controversy, calling out millennials.
Oh, controversy.
Ooh, calling out millennials.
Controversy.
Noodles, boy.
Not being able to laugh.
The 61-year-old comic legend said last week political correctness is running amok among young people.
I don't play colleges, but I hear a lot of people tell me don't go near colleges.
They're so PC. They just want to use these words.
That's racist.
That's sexist.
That's prejudice.
Seinfeld famously avoided vulgar and offensive humor, but he was criticized for the lack of diversity on his long-running TV show, as well as his web series Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee, which featured no women and just one black comic during its first season.
Seinfeld addressed that criticism in a CBS This Morning BuzzFeed Brew segment last year.
Wait, it's CBS News This Morning BuzzFeed Brew?
What the hell is that?
I have no idea.
Press that criticism in a CBS This Morning BuzzFeed Brews segment last year.
To me, it's anti-comedy.
It's more about, you know, PC nonsense than are you making us laugh or not?
Yeah.
Well, I'm glad he's saying that.
Well, he's, you know, somebody's...
I'm sure a lot of comics feel the same way.
Although many of them, especially the ones that appeal to the millennials, get extremely raunchy in some other, you'd think, non-PC ways.
He's always been a clean comic.
Yeah.
One of those guys who doesn't do booger and dick jokes.
He doesn't do, you know, say, you know, fuck, fuck, fuck constantly.
Hickory dickory duck!
And, you know, and he can't even, you know, he gets everything he does.
You know, the guy does the stupid thing with the comics and cars getting coffee, which is on Crackle, I think.
You can get it on the Roku box if you dig around, which is quite funny.
It's funny.
I like it.
It's funny.
He gets a various vintage car and he goes driving around with some guy.
He's had Tina Fey on.
He's had Hart, the black guy who's very funny.
That's the only one.
Only one black comedian.
You're no good, Jerry Seinfeld.
You're a bigot.
You're a racist.
You hate women.
And in fact, that is not true.
He always had hot girlfriends.
Remember that show?
The whole show was based on him running through girlfriends.
Yeah.
And then finding some little thing.
Sexist, sexist pig.
That he couldn't stand, like the big hand girl.
You had the big hand girl.
Toothbrusher.
All right.
To sit around naked was one of my favorites.
And then he decided to get around naked and she told him not to.
So while we're on the kind of cultural Marxism, which is pretty much stifling free speech.
Well, that's the idea.
Yeah, that is the idea.
And we had another controversy erupt.
Spontaneously over Reddit.
Reddit now being run by Ellen Pau, who is the former Kleiner Perkins associate.
Who sued them.
And lost.
And lost big time.
She's now the CEO of Reddit.
And they have decided to ban certain subreddits.
And I have two quick clips.
It was on NPR, just so you can hear a little bit about what they're trying to do.
It's all in the words, really.
This is about harassment of people and when a subreddit will be closed under the following conditions.
The question is whether it would make them fear for their safety or the safety of those around them or where it makes them feel like it's not a safe platform.
So somebody expressing ideas that aren't consistent with everybody's views is something that we encourage.
There are certain posts that do make people feel unsafe, that people feel threatened.
A post that makes me feel unsafe and threatened.
Or they feel that their family or friends or people near them are going to be unsafe.
And those are the specific things that we are focused on today.
This is vague.
I don't know what she's talking about.
Our site's goal to be a completely free speech platform.
We want to be a safe platform and we want to be a platform.
Let me just roll that back again.
Again, just listen carefully to what she's saying here.
Here we go.
Completely free speech.
A little more.
I want to hear that whole sentence.
Come on, pow.
Here we go.
The things that we are focused on today.
It's not our site's goal to be a completely free speech platform.
It's not our site's goal to be a completely free speech platform.
We want to be a safe platform and we want to be a platform that also protects privacy at the same time.
Okay.
Now, I read the blog post and their rules, etc.
And there's a very subtle difference.
Instead of talking about, which is interesting she said it here, about free speech, she talks about free expression.
And this folds back into the yelling, you know, like, free speech is not free speech unless it's an expression, right?
Which I think one day will go to the Supreme Court for some bizarre reason.
So they talk about it being free expression, which is not the same as free speech.
It's also free expression is not in the Constitution.
Free speech is in the Constitution.
And I think this is, well, people are like, oh, censorship.
No, it's not censorship.
They're not the government.
None of that.
But it is very telling as to where we're headed just in free speech.
By moving it over to free expression.
And then she had that line at the end there about your privacy.
Yeah, I want it all to be privacy.
Oh, really, Ellen?
Predators, users, can be anonymous.
Doesn't that mean that someone who's contributing harassing material whom you speak with even can keep doing it under a variety of pseudonyms?
We have ways of finding them, and we have ways of looking for repeat behavior.
We have ways of making you talk.
Methods of coming to our site that can help us track down the anonymous users who may try to create fake accounts.
Well, how is that privacy?
We have ways of tracking you down.
There's a follow-up question.
What about somebody using double VPNs?
We have ways of getting the tour exit points.
It's not a problem.
We have ways of finding them.
Do whatever you're gonna do!
I'm not scum like you!
You go to your daddy Satan anytime you want.
I'll never join you.
You understand that filth?
And there it goes.
Now, I have one clip left.
I have a couple clips left, but I only have one important clip.
And, uh...
I didn't think it would get any worse, but I thought this was a great clip because it embodies two themes.
It's a twofer.
This is the FIFA. It gets worse classic.
I don't know if you've heard this before.
FIFA. FIFA. FIFA. FIFA. Advertising.
I just said, wow!
Ready?
Yep, hit it.
In the ongoing FIFA bribery scandal, former Vice President Jack Warner has been accused of diverting funds intended for victims of Haiti's earthquake.
The 72-year-old is alleged to have diverted $750,000 in emergency funds, funds that were donated by FIFA and the Korean Football Association for Haitian earthquake victims.
According to a BBC report, Warner and several other FIFA officials have been charged with running a criminal enterprise.
Joe!
Isn't that great?
That's fantastic!
I love that!
You didn't know that, did you?
No, of course not.
Fantastic.
Well, I don't think I can talk.
Those guys are just rotten to the core.
Yeah, I don't think I can top that, John.
I think you got me on that one.
Oh, okay.
Wow.
Yeah, we'll see what else comes out of that.
I'm just scanning through the last things.
Let's see.
Tony Stark has filed to provide internet service from outer space.
Yeah, you'll probably get the broadband subsidies for that.
Well, let me play one more clip then.
All right, so I'm watching, this is I think CBS, or it's one of the networks.
And there's this guy, the new correspondent, he's trying to make a name for himself.
And he's doing this report.
And so they throw it to him.
He looks just like a skinny version of The Rock.
Okay.
The actor.
Yeah, The Rock.
What's his name?
Yeah, The Rock.
Did that movie do anything?
His earthquake movie?
I don't know.
I haven't heard.
That's probably flop.
And here he is.
So he finishes off his little intro and mispronounces the absolute last word he's got to say here.
Investigators are following some 500 leads, including some new information, as you mentioned, that authorities are concerned those inmates may be headed towards Vermont.
So tonight, officials are stepping up patrols, worried that these dangerous men are getting even more desperate.
I'm desperate, I tell you.
I'm desperate.
Can I ask you, John?
Are you desperate?
Yeah, that manhunt is...
I don't know why I make these sorts of clips.
It's just the ridicule.
We ridicule.
That's what we do on this show.
We do that a lot.
Yeah, we do.
We do.
We ridicule a lot.
It's not the theme of the show.
It's just something we do.
Yeah, that whole manhunt thing is ridiculous.
Oh, I didn't even want to get into it.
But that's...
Well, what they are doing is...
And once again, citizens are all in.
The cops...
Actually, it's the Department of Correction cops.
They're walking around telling me, hey, can we search your house?
And people are like, sure, okay, come on in.
You can look at my house.
Let's see how come on in.
Yeah, they should say no.
Yes, of course they should say no.
Oh, you have something to hide?
Oh, you got something to hide?
Maybe we should have a car outside.
Make sure that you got nothing to hide.
No, this is part of the problem with that.
And those guys are gone.
They're all thinking they're headed north because one of them has a relative in Buffalo.
And I'm thinking these guys are smart enough to get out of that old prison.
Only people ever.
They went straight down to Mississippi.
They're not looking down there for them.
Or they'll be in one of those vacation houses and they can firebomb it like they did with that cop.
That one guy.
Yeah, that'd be cool.
Burn him.
Burn him.
Just quickly, F Russia stuff.
Their big anti-government protests in Ukraine, which is completely underreported.
I didn't even have a clip.
And, you know, interestingly enough, we don't see Victoria Noodleman out there handing out bagels or cookies or whatever she was doing the last time.
So I'm pretty sure regime change is on its way for Poroshenko.
We've been following that.
Part two of the story.
Part two of the story.
Also, the president signed a continuation of the national emergency for the most dangerous country.
We have a national emergency.
Is that us?
No, hold on.
Oops, I hit the wrong button here.
Let me just see.
He wrote it down.
National continuation.
So, on June 16th, Executive Order 34.
Okay.
The President declared a national emergency pursuant to the International Economic Powers Act to deal with the unusual and extraordinary threat.
To the national security and foreign policy of the United States, constituted to the actions and policies of certain members of the government of, I'm not going to tell you yet, and other persons to undermine the democratic process and institutions manifested in the fundamentally undemocratic march elections, 2006, to commit human rights abuses.
I mean, this is a horrible, horrible, horrible country.
Can you guess what the country is?
Uh, Scotland.
Belarus.
Belarus.
And the only reason...
We don't say anything about Kazakhstan or whatever that one really bad country is over there because we're in bed with them.
The only reason for this is for Putin's pipeline.
Oh, right.
That's why Belarus is dangerous.
Yeah.
I'm always on the lookout for Belarusians to come by and throw rocks at the house.
And this will be my last bit.
Continuing in your initial analysis of the macaroni and cheese...
Which, of course, shepherds in the Second Great Depression.
Depression food.
Depression food.
There was a mac and cheese festival.
Yeah.
Did they have bands?
Well, it was in Toronto, and headline, How Mac and Cheese Destroyed a Toronto Neighborhood.
Yes.
On Sunday, residents of the quiet Toronto neighborhood of Liberty Village woke up to an apocalyptic scene.
Piles of trash were strewn about with an unsettling cheddary smell to the air.
But Liberty Village wasn't looted, nor was it the site of an attack by some paramilitary dairymen.
Instead, it was struck by Canadian savage, insatiable craving for mac and cheese.
So the problem started on Friday.
They thought 5,000 people would show up, but apparently the depression is so large and so close upon us, 46,000 people showed up.
There you go.
There's your viral invite.
And, yes, the event brought together 23 chefs from across the city to pit their best mac and cheese dishes against one another to be judged by the public for a grand prize of $5,000.
Apparently, the public is more than willing to do so.
According to some reports, garbage, half-eaten remains of cheese and macaroni littered the streets.
Vomit.
Vomit everywhere.
Yeah.
Mac and cheese vomit the worst.
Mac and cheese by Ayn Rand.
Is this a fact?
Is mac and cheese vomit worse than any other type of vomit?
Think about it.
All right.
I think we're done.
Okay.
I think so, too.
Yeah, I think so, too.
All right.
That was fun.
Thanks for that melodrama, John.
Good work on that.
I really appreciated that.
Good work.
Had to cut it down somehow.
You're rocking it.
Okay, everybody.
I'm off.
I'll be making a beeline.
For Irving, Texas.
Irving, Texas.
How far a drive is that?
Probably three and a half hours.
Yeah.
Maybe.
Yeah, three and a half hours, I think.
That would kind of be it.
Sunday's a good time to take a drive to Texas.
It's a great time to take a drive.
Whew!
Alrighty.
You working on anything for Sunday that you know of?
Anything special?
Not...
No.
No, nothing, actually, that I can think of.
I'm going to go watch television and find something to work on.
All right.
Good.
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Abbottabad.
Abbottabad. Abbottabad.
Abnerbox. - Do do do do.
Abathon.
I studied the Civil War to an extreme.
Hitchens hated Clinton to such an extreme.
It's not in this clip because he is being cowed by Chris Matthews to such an extreme.
Rand Paul does this to an extreme, which has been debunked to an extreme by universities and everybody in between.
Unless somebody's hacked the passport to such an extreme...
You're not welcome when the leader, when the Führers come to town, Gruppenfuhrer is in town.
You little scum do not come show it.
It's done in secret.
Project of Adolf Hitler.
Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer!
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