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702: Toddler Wage Gap

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	You'd go in pretty far with your hose.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	And Sunday, March 8th, 2015, time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 702.
	This is no agenda.
	Celebrating all the girls I've loved before, live from the Russian oil transport hub of the world, Rotterdam, the Netherlands.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where it's called International Women's Day, I'm John C. Devorak.
	Did I get something incorrect?
	What is the leading cause of death amongst women?
	Masturbation.
	Dementia.
	Oh, wow.
	I knew that, actually.
	Why would you know that?
	Because I have known several women whose mothers have had or have dementia.
	And I know women who have it in the family and are worried about it.
	And you know what's really fun?
	Fun?
	Yeah, you say to these women, you say, don't you remember I told you that?
	Oh.
	Great gag.
	I'm telling you, it's a great gag.
	I'm like, no?
	Oh, it's okay, honey.
	Don't worry.
	So apparently UKIP is going to invest 130 million pounds per year to research and fight dementia.
	Oh, okay.
	That's how you got it.
	That's why I'm just reading from a tweet.
	Well, it's good that we talk about that because today is International Women's Day.
	And right off the bat, I found it interesting that...
	Certainly in the United States, women get screwed out of a whole hour of their 24.
	I'm sorry?
	Well, Daylight Savings Time went into effect today.
	Well, we got screwed out of the hour, too, you know.
	Oh, I know that, but we're not...
	Oh, I see what you're saying, the Women's Day.
	Yes.
	They get one day.
	There's no equality.
	Yeah.
	They only get 23 hours.
	I'm telling you, the inequality is built right in.
	You'd think that they would bitch, but well, they always get paid less money, they get less hours.
	Actually, hold on, let me get this.
	You're going to love this.
	This is, what's her name, the Facebook woman?
	Sandberg.
	Donna Sandberg.
	What's her name?
	Donna Sandberg.
	Cheryl.
	Cheryl.
	From now on, known on this show as Donna Sandberg.
	Donna Sandberg.
	And she's always talking about what was her big thing is you're not getting paid enough.
	You can't be leaning in enough.
	Don't be bossy.
	You talk about raising children in the home and raising the next gender equality generation.
	And you talk about chores in the household and how we're sending messages, sometimes the wrong ones, to our kids right now.
	What?
	That's right.
	There is a toddler wage gap in this country.
	Right.
	Toddlers.
	Toddlers.
	You get that?
	Toddler wage gap, John.
	A toddler wage gap.
	Boys do fewer chores than girls and get paid more.
	And for any woman who's in the workforce, that feels pretty familiar.
	Did you do this in your household, John?
	Bull crap.
	Can you believe this?
	I find that.
	Yeah, I can.
	Of course I can.
	Yeah, but she had a whole...
	Bitchin' about everything.
	Can you imagine being one of her kids?
	Holy packerel.
	And she had this whole...
	Especially if you were a boy.
	Well, she had this whole...
	She'd be wearing a dress.
	She had this whole thing going, which was, okay, I didn't agree with a lot of it, but at least it was serious.
	And now this, a toddler wage gap?
	Please.
	It's time to take out the trash.
	It doesn't take that long to take out the trash.
	Our daughter set the table.
	It takes longer.
	Oh, it does not?
	How big is your family, Sandberg?
	You've got 20 people?
	Thank you!
	Systematically.
	I never liked taking out the trash.
	I don't know if you're right on this one.
	I prefer to set the table.
	It's inside.
	You don't have to deal with the stinky garbage.
	I was fine to paw that off on my brother.
	And that's your choice, but I bet you didn't like doing more chores than your brother, and maybe that didn't happen in your house.
	Yeah, now maybe that doesn't happen in everyone's household, Donna.
	I also had to empty the wastebaskets.
	It took a lot of time, and my sisters would have gum in there, and you have to scoop it out, and...
	Why'd you have to scoop out gum?
	Because they would throw it in the wastebasket and it would be sticking to the side.
	There was no bag.
	Why'd you put a plastic garbage bag in there?
	You know, that's a good question.
	We had those, more like a paper wastebasket, not a garbage can, in our rooms as kids.
	Just a...
	Just a paper bag?
	Like a basket.
	Hey, hey, anybody get some bags for this?
	Yeah, use that.
	No, like baskets, you know, baskets.
	It's more like a cone.
	It's larger diameter at the top.
	So the sisters were a couple of gum chewers, you're telling me.
	Tiffany was.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Total, total gum chewer.
	No, bad.
	Bad, bad, bad.
	Gum chewer.
	Is she still a gum chewer?
	I don't know.
	I'm going to see her next Monday or Tuesday.
	So I'm here.
	Well, let's finish with International Women's Day just for a moment.
	So first of all, I find that not okay, that the women get screwed out of an hour.
	But only in the United States, though.
	Yes.
	Of course.
	Yeah.
	Well, it's American women.
	It's the American way.
	Screw women.
	We don't care about them.
	But I find this strange because, obviously, International Women's Day falls, I guess, on the same day every year.
	Do you know?
	I don't know.
	Which, of course, is simultaneously the one-year anniversary of the MH370 disappearance.
	So maybe last year we just didn't...
	There was so much to do with Richard Quest on CNN that we're too excited about him.
	That we didn't recognize.
	You were.
	We didn't recognize.
	A new report came out, I don't know if you followed that, on the MH370, about 500 pages.
	Pretty much everything we knew except for one minor detail.
	The locator beacon's battery apparently had expired a year earlier.
	But this thing may not have been working at all.
	And the excuse that's given is, by any aviation standards, it is inexcusable, and someone needs to be fired, and maybe worse.
	The anomaly of the expired battery, let's see, was due to a computer glitch.
	Uh-huh.
	Yeah, that's not acceptable.
	The whole point in aviation maintenance is everything has to be completely documented.
	Every screw has a lifetime value, including your locator beacon.
	Even I had a locator in my Cessna when I had it.
	Ah, I miss that plane.
	Ugh.
	And I was personally responsible for making sure that it was switched out within the time frame.
	And it says it right on the box itself.
	Now, you're not going to look at that in your 777, but it's inexcusable.
	That's not how it works in aviation.
	Well, I think it was part of the whole...
	I think it was just general policies of the Malaysian Airlines.
	It just doesn't sound like a good carrier.
	I wouldn't fly them.
	No.
	You know, one time I went up to Boeing to do an interview with the company over some of its new stuff years ago.
	Like new plane stuff or war stuff?
	What kind of stuff?
	Civil stuff.
	And this is when they were going to do these giant jet engines that had giant props on them.
	You remember this era?
	It was in the mid-80s.
	They had these new designs for jets.
	It was like the fan inside the thing was outside.
	They never...
	Yeah, that didn't really...
	That didn't fly, funny enough.
	It looked like it was going to chop the crap out of whatever came around.
	Anyway...
	So I went there, and I started just, you know, gossiping with the engineers, and I got a hold of one of these guys, and I'm saying, so what's the, you know, we're talking about maintenance, so who's the worst carrier?
	Ask them, who's the worst carrier?
	And he gave you an answer?
	No, but he did indicate that it was in Asia somewhere.
	Yeah, right.
	No kidding.
	He says some of those guys, they just get the jets and we do whatever we can.
	We're always on them to get these things, maintain these planes, but they just won't do it.
	Yeah.
	Well, in some countries, I guess they don't give a crap.
	Yeah.
	But anyway, I'm in the Rotterdam, the Netherlands, John.
	You can't even tell, can you?
	No.
	In fact, I might just be back at home in Austin.
	You could be.
	This could be bull crap.
	Mm-hmm.
	No, I'm here with...
	There's no way for me to find out.
	The Skype...
	Well, no, I took a picture of Christina and I here in her house in Rotterdam.
	The last time you were there.
	Yeah, sure.
	We have some photographic evidence.
	Is it snowing?
	It is not snowing.
	It's been very cold.
	And Christina is in...
	This is an interesting little place she's got here.
	It's one of those that is half below street level.
	So it's on the ground.
	So your head is just above the sidewalk level?
	No, more like my belly button.
	Okay.
	I can see out the windows.
	Yeah, so she's kind of in the half basement.
	And these places are old.
	And so she has a gas heater, stove heater, in the living room.
	And that's all she has.
	How big is the place?
	She has a nice size bedroom, living room, living room, dining room thing.
	At least it's not like a bucket of coal.
	It's only a step above.
	There's not much of a step above that, I guess is what I'm saying.
	But it's nice being in Rotterdam.
	And the sun is shining today.
	That is good, but I find it very cold.
	Everyone's, oh, it's fantastic.
	The sun is out.
	Okay.
	They're just happy with the sun.
	I just got in from Texas.
	Exactly.
	It's a little problematic for me.
	Oh, I learned something on the flight over, John.
	We have a no agenda travel tip.
	Okay.
	So I had to go to Atlanta first.
	And by the way, all of this, it really, the airport was crazy, Berksham Airport.
	And I always forget that Friday afternoon, it's not a good day, it's not a good time of the week to fly.
	No, it's the worst time because people are these, you know, commuters that usually they go to work for five days and they fly home for the weekend.
	Right.
	But of course, with the show and everything, that's kind of the only way I can do it.
	And then, you know, there's only really one flight that makes sense to connect from Austin to Atlanta, Atlanta to Amsterdam.
	And it's on Delta and KLM and they're supposed to be kind of the same airline.
	Right.
	Apparently there was some kind of equipment failure earlier in the day, I think like early in the morning, and there were a lot of people who needed to go to Atlanta who had been waiting there since 8 or 9 o'clock in the morning, and here I come, 6.24 departure time.
	PM? Yeah, PM. And everybody's trying to get on this flight, so it's taken forever, and there's a very short window.
	There's only 50 minutes, 5-0 minutes between landing in Atlanta and getting on to the, you know, when the next flight departs for Amsterdam.
	Right, well, that's doable.
	It's totally doable, but not if you're going to be 40 minutes late, and they have to make up that time in the air.
	And the boarding process was a nightmare.
	I mean, people were hanging off the wings by the time this plane was pushing back from the gate.
	Everybody wanted to get on it.
	And so people were getting bumped off, and then, you know, I made it.
	I made the flight.
	Interestingly, so did my suitcases.
	But I was talking to the flight attendants about what had happened.
	I said, hey, do you guys wait?
	And how's that work?
	And what's going on?
	And this is a younger flight attendant, of course, in the back of the bus, not up there in the front.
	And as she handed me my gluten-free meal, which was a mistake, because I hadn't ordered that, but I had ordered it for Christina on the way back.
	She's flying back with me in two weeks.
	So for some reason, I got it on the way over.
	She says, you know, you should always order a special meal on the airlines.
	I said, why?
	She said, because when it's overbooked or something's messed up, they do not kick you off.
	Wow!
	That is the tip of the day.
	I knew it was a long wind-up.
	Yeah, no, you took it forever to get to it, but wow, that's a great one.
	Isn't that cool?
	Well, of course, that may just be her carrier.
	Could be.
	Maybe there's something to it, because obviously they had to pay extra.
	Well, they only have the exact amount of meals.
	There's never an extra meal.
	And if yours is some special meal, yeah, they would tick you on.
	They have you on a checklist there that you'd have to get.
	That's a fantastic tip.
	It's the best tip I've heard for a while.
	It's one of our better ones.
	It's one of our better ones.
	Yeah.
	So how was the flight?
	The flight was crap?
	I was not able to sleep.
	You weren't able to sleep?
	No.
	It kind of sucked.
	Well, you probably fall asleep halfway through the show.
	I'm asleep now.
	What are you talking about?
	Oh, and then I got here, and then Christina...
	It was kind of interesting how these kids...
	Is this thing going to fly straight to Rotterdam?
	No, no.
	Amsterdam, and then I had Taxi Eric pick me up.
	Oh, you drove.
	Yeah.
	From Amsterdam to Rotterdam, or from Ski-Pol, it's not really Amsterdam.
	It's the complete other side of the country.
	Right, I know.
	One is way up north and the other is way south.
	Oh, it's so far!
	It's like a whole 45-minute drive.
	What are we going to do?
	Oh my goodness, please!
	It's always fun to see what the kids are doing with technology.
	I always love watching how Christina does things.
	It's good to have young people around you, which I don't have now.
	Not young, young, like in the 20s.
	First of all, I think I told you, Dad, I've got kick-ass internet.
	She does.
	She's got 50 megabits down.
	She's got 25 megabits up.
	This is class act what she's got going on here.
	Yeah, what's the price a month?
	Oh, I think she pays.
	I'll have to ask her.
	I think it's under 50 euros.
	And then she's like, hey, should we watch some House of Cards?
	I'm like, no, I really...
	And I'll get to that in a second, but everyone here is using proxies, I guess, a whole lot?
	No, is it...
	Hola, is that the one?
	I don't know.
	Yeah, all the kids know that you...
	Because Netflix in the Netherlands is no good.
	Because you don't have the...
	They don't release everything simultaneously.
	You can't...
	The archive isn't the same.
	Of course, all the rights are different.
	Everybody is using the whole lot of the proxy servers.
	It's pretty crazy.
	So they're all using proxy servers and hit US servers.
	Oh, yeah.
	And they sign up for US accounts if they can't steal it.
	But talk about your net neutrality.
	Anyway, so I had already seen a couple of episodes of House of Cards since we had been talking about it, and I know that I just needed to point something out about this particular season of the series, which I've been a fan of.
	By the way, I talked to Mimi.
	She says it's unwatchable.
	I agree.
	It is unwatchable.
	And this falls right into our wheelhouse of what we have been saying consistently, that big data is bullshit.
	We've been saying it more than me.
	But they have been touting House of Cards as, oh, we looked at all the customer data, we know exactly what everybody wants, and there it is!
	And so apparently they did all the research.
	Is this true?
	This is what they say.
	This is the marketing.
	Yeah, this is the marketing.
	So the marketing says, so instead of just letting the creative writers do their thing, which is what writers do, they studied and studied and studied and said, no, no, no, we got to go in this direction.
	We got to go this way.
	We got to, this storyline's got to go.
	You're telling me that's what they did or that's what they claimed to have done?
	Yes.
	And now it's unwatchable.
	Yes, they claim.
	Wow, I'm shocked by this.
	Yeah.
	It needs to be pointed out that Amazon specifically, that Netflix specifically has been saying how incredibly...
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	What the hell is this?
	Shut up.
	Shut up.
	You know, they were so incredibly smart about getting just the...
	By the way, Kevin Spacey was shopping this project for a couple of years before, you know, Netflix picked it up.
	But you remember when it first came out.
	Oh, we know exactly what everybody wants.
	We know how they want to watch it.
	We know the story arcs.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Good work, everybody.
	Unwatchable.
	I guess I won't even watch it then.
	It sounds like there's some propaganda in there that's useless.
	Well, that's why it's worth watching for the propaganda.
	I think she also pointed out that if you think about it, the end of the second season where he becomes president, that's the end of the story.
	It's for all purposes.
	Exactly.
	It's a perfect ending.
	No.
	No, no, no.
	Oh, well.
	Yeah.
	So, no, I didn't have to watch that.
	And let me see what else is going on.
	The newspapers here are filled with still, you know, jihadis are going to come back from fighting with ISIS. They're going to kill everybody.
	Yeah, the prime minister.
	These trips to Europe are, I don't know, it just seems like we're getting just a watered-down version of the propaganda they throw at the American public.
	Maybe it's not even watered down.
	It might even be better.
	I think it's much better.
	The prime minister here, he had this, like, if some...
	What was the quote?
	I'm going to lose translation.
	Because we also have some kind of elections going on here at the moment.
	You know, so everything heats up and everything gets a little bit crazy.
	And the prime minister, Rutte, he said something to the effect of, well, if someone goes to fight with ISIS and they get killed there, I won't cry for them!
	Okay.
	Please.
	Okay.
	Whatever.
	But I think in general people are just zombified still.
	I haven't really been outside enough.
	It's cold out.
	It's very cold.
	So Rotterdam, I think there may be a different vibe from Amsterdam.
	So I'll have a real report on boots on the ground, feet on the street here by Thursday's show.
	Well, I'm watching some international stuff while you're over there.
	And I ran into a news night that had apparently one of the reporters from Al Jazeera got out on bail.
	And it's probably the one from Canada.
	And he goes after Al Jazeera for being dicks.
	And then the Newsnight woman, apparently this is a part of the, I think, the old, you know, this media shouldn't say bad things about media.
	You know, media, media.
	It's like Republicans should never say bad things about other Republicans.
	Democrats should never, same thing.
	She cuts the guy off!
	You're not supposed to do this to a fellow reporter, is what you mean.
	I guess there's an element of that, but this is more about the news organizations.
	Ah, okay.
	Making sure that they protect each other.
	At least that's the way I interpreted this, because this was the guy who was actually getting interesting.
	You know, because Newsnight has, you know, they bring these guys on and they grill them.
	And the guy starts getting interesting and she cuts him off.
	You know, I think we should play this.
	You were critical of Al Jazeera.
	Al Jazeera's response was that you could have shut that bureau at any moment.
	Well, when I came to the Marriott as the bureau chief on the first day, there was a frantic staff there that didn't know why they were there.
	And, you know, I offered Al Jazeera that I can go to the authorities and, you know, open a dialogue and explain to them that we are separate from the Arabic network, you know, and that we are, you know, list the journalists that are there.
	And my first...
	We request on behalf of the whole team that our material does not broadcast on the Arabic band Al Jazeera Mubashir arm.
	That was ignored the first time they removed the videos and I have submitted to you some videos and emails that prove that this continued for us.
	Until we got, you know, at least six times until we got arrested.
	And I kept haggling and, you know, taking my concerns to the management.
	And, you know, that continued.
	And the epic negligence is not just before the arrest in issues that made it more difficult for us in court.
	During the trial as well, I had issues with the lawyer that Al Jazeera hired for us.
	Just to clarify.
	He was not...
	Yeah, go ahead.
	Just to clarify, you could have stopped work at any time if you had concerns.
	Just to clarify that.
	However, let's move on now.
	Because at the point where you had to relinquish...
	See, they don't have cool jingles to transition.
	That's her problem.
	Amen.
	Fist bump.
	Yeah, okay, let's move on to a new topic.
	Amen.
	Fist bump.
	That's good.
	So we didn't get to hear anything about the lawyer being a douche.
	No.
	I just thought that was very strange.
	I ran into the same thing.
	I'll play a clip later on Amy Goodman's show.
	Of course, she puts people on at the very end of the show, so she has the excuse, oh, we're running out of time!
	Bye!
	You put in a newsletter, you had this whole thing about, because I haven't really been able to see this, is the Ferguson conversation, conversation.
	Are we having national conversation about Ferguson right now somewhere?
	Yes, it's continuing.
	I actually had a possibility for a couple of clips.
	I didn't clip them, but I'll tell you what they were.
	Okay.
	You know, they were on all the Washington Weekend Review.
	They had these guys on, oh, you know, it was horrible, these memos.
	I probably should go back and clip it for Thursday, because I just didn't feel like it for some reason, where they go, these, this was, these memos, these police wrote to each other, you know, the ones joking.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're saying horrible things.
	Yeah, of course.
	It was like, all the people on this show, this Washington Weekend Review, which is set up, One of these days I'm going to deconstruct all these shows the way they're established and why they don't work.
	But Washington Week in Review with Gwen Ifill doesn't work.
	But they all go, oh, I read it.
	I was shocked.
	I was shocked by these memos.
	You know, lame jokes.
	You know, a black man doesn't hold a job for four years.
	It's not shocking.
	It's dumb.
	It shows you the lame.
	Yeah, it is lame.
	But it's nothing, oh, I was shocked, shocked, shocked.
	So this continued on all the shows.
	I think I figured out what's going on.
	Because there are two reports that came out.
	Or actually one report, and then the focus kind of shifted very quickly.
	This is what I found.
	I clipped this from CNN. What really happened the final moments of Michael Brown's life?
	The Justice Department investigation makes it clear.
	The evidence does not support the mantra still being used by some protesters.
	Stop!
	Don't shoot!
	Hands up!
	Don't shoot!
	Instead, the Department of Justice found that is, quote, inconsistent with the physical and forensic evidence.
	And in some cases, witnesses have acknowledged their initial accounts were untrue or witness accounts were not credible, including the witness closest to Brown when it happened, Brown's friend, Dorian Johnson, whose words helped spark the mantra.
	Despite the evidence laid out by the Department of Justice that Michael Brown's hands were not up when Officer Wilson shot and killed him, the Hands Up Don't Shoot movement lives.
	The argument is that if he wasn't surrendering, then there's a justification, which is what the DOJ and the grand jury found.
	To me, that's a repetitive tactic that's been used again.
	Now, what I'm hearing...
	Is that this report says that, and the officer was cleared, that everything right down to the actual slogan has now been, you know, there's no proof that any of this took place the way it was immediately propagated.
	Yeah.
	Sorry?
	Yeah, but there were other witnesses that they just weren't promoted as much.
	But yeah, the media pushed this one agenda.
	But this is in Holder, the Department of Justice.
	It's in his report that none of these accusations about the actual event itself had any merit.
	But then he goes on to say, I am prepared to dismantle the Ferguson Police Department.
	Which I find interesting.
	Does the Department of Justice have that kind of power to do that in a state?
	I think so.
	Really?
	Under some circumstance, yeah.
	For bad jokes?
	I guess.
	Bad jokes, you're out.
	I'm done.
	Here's a pooper, and what's his name?
	Van Jones.
	Oh, Van Jones.
	The fact that the Justice Department report says the narrative that Michael Brown had his hands up wasn't accurate, that hands up, don't shoot, that chant that we heard constantly, from all evidence, that was not true.
	That did not happen.
	Isn't it important to acknowledge that?
	Well, listen, I think it's important to acknowledge that some things are possible and some things are provable.
	It is certainly not provable that Mike Brown had his hands up.
	We'll never know what happened.
	Something strange happened.
	You did have that video of those construction workers who were white and watching.
	They put their hands up.
	I love that.
	White and watching.
	Write that one down.
	We need this for later.
	White and watching.
	Yeah, I'm a construction worker.
	I'm white and watching.
	You did have that video of those construction workers who were white and watching.
	Do you know anything about this video?
	That's the first I heard about it.
	White and watching.
	I think that's kind of cool.
	I like it.
	What's going on with this?
	...of those construction workers who were white and watching.
	They put their hands up after the shooting and said something happened that was wrong.
	But much more importantly, this thing was about Mike Brown for about two weeks.
	After that, it became a cry of a generation that feels that it is criminalized and guilty until it's proven innocent rather than innocent until proven guilty all too often.
	Hmm.
	All right, then.
	Okay.
	I don't think it's...
	I don't know.
	It's still in the news.
	It's going on.
	Blah, blah, blah.
	And it seems to be going in a circle.
	So I'm watching Washington Weekend Review and I'm trying to...
	Because this happened...
	I don't know.
	Maybe I'll talk about this some other time.
	But I decided to start deconstructing these talk...
	Roundtable talking shows.
	You mean like Meet the Press?
	All of them.
	I've done a number of them myself with different formats.
	That's a good idea, of course.
	And I've always wondered why some of these are just dull.
	And then I realized that Fox actually has the formula correct in some circumstance.
	Yes, the chicks.
	Hot chicks with their legs bare under the table.
	Well, I think that's just an element.
	I think the real reason that these are more successful is because everyone has an opinion.
	These old-fashioned shows, and Washington Weekend Review is probably the classic amongst them, although our local KQED station has a couple of these shows that are very similar.
	I think News Table or News Room or something is one of them.
	Mm-hmm.
	And the way the show goes, you have a host in the middle, and all the host does is throw a story to one of the four guests.
	It's always a host in the middle, four guests surrounding.
	And then this actually turned into a three-person show, because the one guest is the one that's the expert, and the other three people toss questions at them, at the third guy, the fourth guy.
	And the host doesn't do anything.
	The host sits there.
	Sounds like a good gig.
	For the host, if he doesn't really have a personality, I would put Gwen in that category.
	Oh, yeah.
	Anyway, so one person's an expert and the other people are idiots asking the expert questions.
	Then it goes to the next person who covered a story.
	They're still a reporter covering a story, but they're given the latitude to have an opinion about the story.
	So then the three other people that didn't cover the story get to ask them questions and it goes back and forth that way.
	It's extremely dull.
	Fox figured out that what you want is four people With an opinion about the story and a perspective on the story that's different.
	So you have one person who maybe did or didn't cover the story.
	It doesn't make any difference.
	So you have a full spectrum is what you mean.
	You have a spectrum of opinions and they're all going at each other.
	Right.
	Which is different than three people asking one person a bunch of questions, which is extremely boring.
	And that's the old-fashioned model and that's the model that's used at KQED too.
	And I'm only reminded of this because one time when I was doing one of my X3 shows where I had...
	Broken the model down to a host at the end, which I've seen some people move to.
	Host at the end instead of in the middle.
	And then three people instead of four, because if you have four people yakking away, it's just too many people.
	And I had one of the guests I brought, and I won't say who she is, but she had apparently done the KQED show a lot.
	So she was of the opinion that she was there to ask questions.
	Oh, we're so sorry.
	That is exactly what we didn't want you to do.
	No.
	No.
	Oh my god, how can I shut this woman up?
	And she was just, you know, she didn't get it.
	She never obviously watched the show.
	Right.
	Well, that's a mistake.
	She thought all shows were like these PBS shows, which is just a dreadful model.
	Anyway, that's Inside Baseball.
	I'm sorry.
	I think a lot of people are interested in that.
	A few.
	Because they have to watch these shows.
	And I'm sure there's a viewer or two out to watch the show.
	Why is this show so dull?
	And is there a reason why our show is not dull?
	Because we don't hold on to that formula and we stay away from it?
	Well, our show is the modern podcast model of eavesdropping, where two guys are talking, two guys that hope to be interesting are talking at each other, and the audience is actually an eavesdropper.
	And so you're just like listening in.
	This is my opinion of this model.
	Of course it's your opinion.
	Why wouldn't it be your opinion?
	I'm trying to do you.
	Yeah, no, I think you made a good point.
	And you said a yeah and no.
	Amen.
	Fist bump.
	Wow, two and one, like in a span of three seconds.
	You're confusing me by challenging.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm breaking the model by challenging you.
	Yes, don't challenge anything I say.
	I'm a rule follower.
	I'll just be quiet.
	So you're sitting at a table in a restaurant, and you've got two guys yakking away about something that's kind of interesting to you, and so you listen in.
	And I think that's what this is.
	I'm a rule follower, so if the rule is that we have to do it, then I'll do it.
	Exactly.
	All right.
	Let us move towards...
	Oh, yes.
	This is what I wanted to do.
	This is Agenda 21.
	Wow.
	Someone tweeted me this morning and said...
	This is interesting.
	We haven't had Agenda 21 on the show for a while.
	Well, Agenda 21 is kind of Agenda 21 in a broad sense, you know?
	To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gate.
	Please give me to my next clip.
	So it was, what was his name, Senator, was it Inhofe, Inhofe, Inhofe?
	Who was talking in the Senate and held up a snowball.
	Moron.
	Yeah, that guy.
	Dick.
	A stupid moron.
	Oh, that's really formal because he wants, I guess that's his way of saying global warming doesn't exist.
	Well, whoever advises this guy needs to be shot.
	How can anyone think that's a good idea?
	So he is then slammed down by Sheldon Whitehouse.
	Yeah, and this actually showed up on the Scientific American 60 Second Science podcast, which is fun to listen to.
	I have to interrupt you for a second.
	Sheldon, of course, because Sheldon Whitehouse is a pet peeve of mine, that guy.
	Oh, okay.
	I really dislike him.
	Peeve away.
	One of our producers went, you know, I'm always talking about, you know, this is me.
	I gotta go to Washington, D.C. and go through the paper and see who's invested in what.
	Yeah, down in the basement, yeah.
	You gotta go to the basement.
	It's like...
	They won't post any of this stuff.
	Thank you very much, Congress, and openness.
	You're allowed to effectively perform insider trading if you're a senator, congressman, or congressperson, or staff, and you are making laws or have laws coming out that will affect certain industries.
	It is okay for you to go and invest.
	They do have that disclosed, but you can only get that down the basement at the, I think it's the National Library, isn't it?
	I don't know.
	Or the records office, and you can't take anything out.
	You have to copy it there.
	And I think it's a dollar per page.
	Yeah, well, that's where you can make a photocopy for a buck a page.
	So I guess this guy went to Washington, or he decided to look into Sheldon Whitehouse, who is this horrible, horrible, oh, we're all going to die from global warming, and Rhode Island is going to sink character, who we've had on the show a number of times.
	And he's usually with Jeff Sessions, who's always berating him.
	So the guy looks up at Whitehouse, he says, Whitehouse is up to his ears in investments in the oil companies.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Oh, no.
	He said he was shocked.
	Oh, brother!
	My thinking was, you know, we're going to find some cool dirt on the guy if I go to the basement.
	But no, apparently just the opposite.
	Wow.
	He's just a phony.
	Well, I wanted to play his little bit here from the Scientific American 60 Second Science podcast as he berates Inho for his little snowball gag.
	And it just shows you the level of the way people will go when they truly...
	I guess he...
	Well, he has a phone.
	I guess he doesn't believe it.
	Who cares?
	But here it is.
	You can believe NASA, and you can believe what their satellites measure on the planet, or you can believe the senator with the snowball.
	Now that's good writing right there.
	That's good!
	Inhofe, you're a loser because this guy is eating your lunch.
	The United States Navy takes this very seriously to the point where Admiral Locklear, who is the head of the Pacific Command, has said that climate change is the biggest threat that we face in the Pacific.
	You can either believe the United States Navy Or you can believe the senator with the snowball.
	Every major American scientific society has put itself on record, many of them a decade ago, that climate change is deadly real.
	Deadly real, John.
	Deadly real.
	Climate change is real!
	It's real!
	They measure it.
	They see it.
	They know why it happened.
	They see it.
	They can see it.
	The predictions correlate with what we see as they increasingly come true, and the fundamental...
	Wow, I didn't hear that the first time around.
	As they increasingly come true, the predictions...
	As they increasingly come true when nothing's come true.
	No, that's the whole thing.
	As they increase...
	Let me just pack it up a little more, see exactly what he said here.
	They just say it's come true, eh, you know.
	The predictions correlate with what we see as they increasingly come true.
	The predictions correlate with what we see as they increasingly come true.
	That is the biggest bullcrap line I've ever heard.
	They see it, they know why it happens.
	This is the guy.
	I'm sorry.
	That's okay.
	This is the guy who was at those subcommittees, and he was the head during the era of the Democrats running the Senate.
	He was the head of these committees.
	And we've had these clips on here, just to remind people, who bring a guy on, an expert in wildfires.
	And the guy would come out and say, since...
	Such and such a year.
	The wildfires have increased.
	And actually, the only increase with...
	They've increased a little bit, but it's only because the correlation is with global cooling.
	As global cooling continues, you get more wildfires.
	And you go on with that.
	And another guy said, well, we only have flooding under these...
	And we only do this and we only do that.
	And they have these different experts come on.
	At the end of the hearing, White House would just have ignored whatever they said.
	And say just the opposite.
	It's so important that we do something about this.
	...correlate with what we see as they increasingly come true, and the fundamental principles that it is derived from carbon pollution, which comes from burning fossil fuels...
	And farting.
	...are beyond legitimate dispute.
	So, you can believe every single major American scientific society...
	Or...
	Or you can believe the senator with the snowball.
	Yeah, very good.
	So the reason I played this is first to have a little laugh, and I thought Senator Snowball was good.
	You know, the senator with the snowball, like that.
	It's to lead into our favorite guy, rhymes with guy, who we like so much when it comes to science and certainly all things science.
	Climate change.
	You name it.
	The guy's already ready.
	The climate guy.
	Bill Nye, the climate guy.
	Exactly.
	Bill Nye, the climate guy, was on...
	I think it was the Extra Real Time.
	It showed up on YouTube.
	Do we...
	You know, Bill Nye, the climate guy, is so on this so recently and to an extreme that has become a joke on our show.
	Who's paying him?
	This is not the thing you just do.
	He has a book coming out.
	So he has a big advance.
	He's promoting a book.
	Oh, okay.
	So I think he's on a book tour.
	Well, if he makes an appearance on CBS, I'm pretty sure he gets paid for that.
	On the morning show?
	Yeah, I think he does.
	It's not that much.
	No.
	But...
	Isn't he?
	Well, I thought we looked up how he made his money, but he has a book coming out.
	He's on More Real Time with Bill Maher.
	What is that?
	What is that?
	What they do on HBO.com afterwards.
	Anyway, so it's not on television.
	It's not on the show, but they talk about it.
	And they have some, I don't know, some guy from the show is then interviewing the climate guy.
	And it turns out, at the very end, as he's kind of done promoting his book, he comes out with this absolute gem.
	Bill Nye the Science Guy, thank you for continuing to drop knowledge.
	Thank you.
	We're just trying to change the world.
	By the way, we're just trying to change the world?
	What is that all about?
	I don't know.
	There's a chapter in there which I'm going to revise.
	I spent some time on it, and I'm very excited.
	Wait, which chapter is this?
	Well, you can stay tuned, but it's about genetically modified food.
	I went to Monsanto, and I spent a lot of time with the scientists there, and I have revised...
	My outlook.
	And I'm very excited about telling the world.
	When you're in love, you want to tell the world.
	When can we look forward to this?
	Well, I don't run the publishing business, but in general, next fall.
	Okay.
	Keep an eye out.
	That's the way they do it.
	Next fall would be 2015 fall, if you're scoring along with us.
	Bill, thank you so much again for coming on the show.
	Let's change the world!
	Let's do it!
	So, he went to see Monsanto, hung out with the scientists, and then, oh, I'm going to revise a chapter!
	Yeah.
	Oh, gee, I wonder which way that...
	Change the world!
	Let's do it!
	Change the world!
	Good work!
	What a dick!
	So he was sold a bill of goods by the public relations operations that work for Monsanto.
	That's the way I read that.
	Oh yeah.
	And Bill...
	Not Bill.
	He's all giddy.
	This genetic engineering is fantastic.
	It's great.
	Just imagine.
	100 foot salmon in the ocean.
	Yeah.
	In the ocean.
	So Brian the Gay Crusader picked up on this and he did something interesting.
	This is so typical no agenda thinking.
	I love this.
	So he wanted to find out.
	Let me see.
	What does he have here?
	Let's see what Brian looked at.
	Alright, he looked at the safety of genetically modified organisms.
	This is one of those 97% deals that we always like pulling apart.
	And he found a Pew Research Center study which compares the opinions of the public and members of the American Association for the Advancement of Science.
	And you'll see that even when it comes to Monsanto, 88% of scientists believe they're safe, but a much lower percentage of the population believes they're safe.
	But then this is what Brian did.
	He went to go see, you know, what is this American Association for the Advancement of Science?
	And, you know, if these scientists are now being counted and their percentage is being held up against the American public, who exactly are these scientists?
	And here you go.
	To become a member of the American Association for the Advancement of Science, you only have to become a member.
	That's $50 per year, and you do not have to...
	Brian actually signed up.
	You do not have to send in any qualifications or any...
	Just any schmuck can sign up.
	I think we all should sign up for this.
	Oh yeah.
	This could be great.
	We could be in all these surveys and we could be telling people what we feel about science.
	Yeah, you know, the surveys may be rigged too.
	Well, the Pew Center, everyone uses the Pew Research Center as fact and great and trustworthy.
	Even your beloved Democracy Now!
	Talking about democracy now and talking about climate change.
	So they had some sort of a sit-in or something in New York The clip, by the way, is the climate change.
	I got it.
	I got it.
	With Ami.
	Yeah, I got it.
	With Ami.
	Now, I have to set it up.
	Ami Goodman.
	They have this court case, and a bunch of people were arrested, 10 of them, and they were protesting climate change by sitting in some area where bankers had to walk over them.
	And so they got released and they had this lawyer to come on the show and claim that they were released because it just proves climate change is actually going on.
	It was important when in fact he does say why they were released because it was an improper pronouncement by the police to make them move.
	Which is why they got released.
	But meanwhile, they turned it into a climate change thing.
	So Amy is talking to this guy and the clip starts with this guy chatting.
	It's snowing on him as he talks about global warming.
	Amy points out the irony of this, but she continues anyway, and she has to get her two-cent opinion in at the end of this clip, which is ridiculous.
	The court found all 10 defendants not guilty, releasing them and basically endorsing the position that they took that climate change is a serious, urgent problem requiring attention and basically complimenting the defendants for being urgent problem requiring attention and basically complimenting the defendants for being out there and
	And then because the police department made a mistake in the way they ordered people to leave the demonstration area, the judge said the order to leave was impermissible under the Constitution.
	And therefore, he found all the defendants not guilty for violating an unlawful order.
	That's attorney Martin Stoller standing as the snow fell in yet another extreme weather event in New York.
	Extreme weather event!
	The acquittal of the flight from March 11 comes as snowy conditions have continued to engulf the United States.
	In New York, a plane skidded off a snowy runway at LaGuardia Airport.
	While in Kentucky, hundreds of drivers were stranded on a snowy highway for 20 hours.
	Scientists warn increased snowfall was part of a pattern of extreme weather driven by climate change.
	Wow.
	That's fantastic.
	It's so...
	That is really good.
	It's outrageous.
	And you know that Amy Goodman, it's not her mission to be lying and out there duping the public.
	She truly believes this.
	She's read the report.
	Oh, no.
	Yeah.
	No, she's all in.
	But what's it got to do with this report?
	And that guy was bullcrapping the audience when he says, well, it was a confirmation of global warming that the court let these people go, when he makes it kind of clear that it was because of an improper police instruction that was unconstitutional.
	It wasn't because of global...
	It had nothing to do with climate change.
	But okay, let's just make everything about climate change, which is what's annoying.
	Yeah.
	Here's an article from the New York Times, and I'm reading it from the website.
	I put it in.
	It's James Glick.
	Glick?
	What's his name?
	Glick?
	He's a famous reporter, isn't he?
	Glick?
	Glick?
	G-L-E-I-C-K? Jiminy Glick?
	Jiminy Glickit?
	James Glyke?
	I don't know.
	New York Times?
	Yeah, maybe.
	Ideas and trends, a dire long-range forecast.
	This is from May 12, 1985.
	Beginning in a decade or two, scientists expect the warming of the atmosphere to melt the polar ice caps, raising the level of the seas.
	From 1985, John.
	Flooding coastal areas, eroding the shores, and sending salt water far into freshwater estuaries.
	Storm patterns will change, drying out some areas, swamping others, which sounds like a quid pro quo to me.
	And generally throwing agriculture into turmoil.
	Federal climate experts have suggested that within a century, the greenhouse effect could turn New York City into something with the climate of Daytona Beach.
	Huh.
	Oh, there you go.
	So that's only, how many years away?
	That's only 70 years from now.
	I think they meant more like it would be sooner than that.
	Well, they might have.
	Seems like it's snowing there now, which doesn't sound Daytona Beach to me.
	It's cold and raining in Texas.
	I'm reliably informed.
	Yeah, I heard that.
	I thought I had another climate clip.
	I guess not.
	Well, then let's close the gate on that one.
	Sick and tired of the dyers.
	To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gate.
	but while on the topic i just this is a quick clip of bullcrap or bullcrap artists more than bullcrap itself Play this little clip here.
	It's not being played much in the news, and my question is, where's Clooney?
	Darfur.
	Remember when Clooney had all that...
	Yeah, he has the...
	Satellites and all this...
	Yeah, the Sentinel...
	He's actually...
	I think he dropped out of the Sentinel project.
	I'll look that up while we listen to the clip.
	The United Nations reports nearly half a million people were displaced from the Darfur region of Western Sudan last year, the largest amount in a decade.
	The UN blames the uptick in violence on the Sudanese government and government-aligned forces which have waged a campaign against rebels in Darfur since 2003.
	An estimated 300,000 people have been killed in the conflict.
	Where's Clooney?
	Well, it's the Sentinel Satellite Project, which he is supposed to be running so he can shame everyone doing this with his handler.
	What's that guy's name?
	The Prendergast.
	Yes.
	Prendergast.
	Yeah, Prendergast.
	I think George...
	Something else is going on.
	Of course, he married the lawyer, and the lawyer is, you know, she's a lawyer for WikiLeaks, but she also has some other interesting clients.
	The word is that they're going to get divorced now.
	No.
	That's what it was on the gossip sheets.
	Really?
	No.
	No.
	He's in the doghouse.
	Hey, the word here is, I sent you a picture of the magazines here.
	Yeah.
	Oh my gosh.
	It's not about Clooney.
	No, we're just talking about magazines.
	Alright, never mind.
	Clooney, fine.
	No, he's getting divorced.
	I'm apparently getting back together with my first wife.
	Is that what's going to happen?
	Is that what the gossip she'd say?
	Only if she has room for my stuff.
	No.
	You have no stuff.
	Yeah, and Adam needs to come back because it's easy for him to make money in Europe, in Holland.
	Right.
	Well, if you look at today's donations, you might consider it.
	Oh, well, in that case, let me thank you for your courage, Mr.
	John C. Dvorak, and in the morning to you!
	Well, in the morning to you, Adam Curry.
	Also, in the morning, all the food's on the ground, feet in the air, stuff's in the water, all the dames and knights out there.
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	Well, first, in the morning, everyone in the chat room, particularly those who showed up and figured out the time change as the Illuminati stole an hour from you last night.
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	We had the fake Sal Lizard, I think, is the artist whose art we used.
	And this was...
	This was a new...
	I don't know if you've ever used this artist before.
	I have seen him...
	I think he's supplied us with stuff in the past.
	I don't know if we've actually ever used anything.
	This was for the Oatmeal episode, 701, and it was, of course, Hillary Clinton as a dude named Ben sitting there behind her little email server.
	Yeah, running her own servers.
	Yeah.
	This is one of the...
	It's something so incredible about this image.
	Yeah, it is a...
	It's disturbing is what it is.
	It's a disturbing image and funny.
	It's funny disturbing.
	And it didn't take a genius, but what he apparently did...
	I'm assuming it's a male artist.
	Because I really do not see a female artist thinking of this.
	Yeah.
	Took some, I guess, like a ham guy or some old fart that's at his computer and just stuck her head on his.
	Yeah, but also put the glasses on.
	There was a couple other things that were pretty nice.
	Yeah, there's a number of little touches, but it's very, for some reason, I don't know why, but it's extremely humorous.
	Yeah, it's good.
	And it got a lot of attention on Twitter.
	Yes.
	Yeah, we got some good...
	I didn't get enough attention to do much for our donations for this particular show, 702.
	Yeah, I noticed.
	But we did get a couple of executive producers after I mentioned in the newsletter we had none, and then one associate executive was shooting for the moon here by coming in, hoping to get the whole thing.
	But let's thank these three people.
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	But seriously, thank you these executive and associate executive producers very much.
	Actually, one associate executive producer.
	We appreciate that.
	But you always see what happens is the people who've been around who come back in to help us.
	There's people out there who are maybe freeloading a little.
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	I want to thank Mike, producer Mike.
	I think this is C-Mike.
	He wrote up your oatmeal recipe.
	John C. O'Rourke's Perfect Oatmeal.
	If you go to itm.im slash oatmeal, I just want to see if that thing works again.
	This ITM thing has not worked for me for weeks.
	Itm.im slash oatmeal.
	I like the page that I figured I made for you here.
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	Okay.
	John C. Dvorak's Perfect Oatmeal.
	Original makes one, flattened oats, regular Quaker oats, cup of water, extract.
	It's true, yeah, you dumped a bunch of vanilla in there, it helps.
	The butter should not be at the beginning of this recipe.
	It says butter to taste.
	After it's made.
	Okay, hold on, I can move it.
	Where does it need to go?
	It needs to go served with butter.
	Oh, okay.
	And serve with maple syrup.
	I can see somebody reading this and saying...
	Boiling the maple syrup with the water.
	I will put it after increased simmer time to 15 to 20 minutes after that.
	Why just put serve?
	I'll make that bold and then I'll put those two things underneath it.
	Okay.
	If you refresh, then you're good to go.
	It's fine.
	It's good.
	It's outstanding.
	Yeah.
	Curiously, the picture of the oatmeal that you have is the background.
	I was waiting for that.
	Is the gooey, is the mush.
	I know.
	Yeah.
	I was wondering if you would see that or not.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's the mush.
	I might take a picture of when I make the oatmeal the next time.
	Take me and take a picture.
	I can replace it.
	And then you could use that in the background.
	No problem.
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	Did you put an Easter egg in the newsletter?
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	I'm going to put one in the next newsletter for sure.
	You had the click me.
	I clicked on that, of course, but it wasn't an Easter egg.
	It's a girl.
	Yeah.
	I should challenge everyone.
	Does anyone remember seeing that girl in the newsletter before?
	If so, when and what was on her note?
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	Yeah, this is your ongoing here's how Photoshop tricks you campaign.
	She was in the newsletter once before.
	We will mention anyone who comes up with the answer to this.
	No one will.
	And by the way, don't spend a lot of time on it.
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	Something in my throat.
	Do you remember when I stayed with my old buddy out there in Malibu, who was no longer my friend, because I told the story about...
	He has the X-rated...
	He has the porn company.
	Okay.
	And we talked about how his lawyers...
	Just call up people, you know, because they have some kind of IP address that they say that they can prove.
	But really what they're doing is that they're just saying, oh, do you want us to publish this information that you've been downloading porn?
	Are you being accused of downloading porn?
	Or you just want to send us $5,000?
	So this is a while ago we talked about that.
	You remember, don't you?
	I actually don't, but I probably could jar my memory if I tried hard enough.
	So I find out that because I'm looking into ways that legal content is going to be determined one way or the other, although I personally don't believe that these net neutrality rules will actually come into effect just because of what can and cannot be done by an agency of the United States government.
	Right.
	And also the mobile phone companies in a hearing, which we put on the show, threatened that they will be taking this to court forever.
	So this is never going to happen.
	Now, you know in Canada they have a lot of online pharmacy websites, so you can order, I think it's the same medication.
	Cheaper, or it's generic, and you can order it instead of going through the hassle in the United States.
	Yes, you can order from Canada.
	And apparently, there's now very analogous to the law firm that would call people up and pretty much extort money from them.
	There's a company called Legitscript, legitscript.com, that is contacting domain name registrars, I'm saying, well, listen, we are LegitScript.
	If you look at LegitScript.com, you'll see kind of, they look legit.
	I've got to figure out who this John Horton guy is who found it.
	I remember his name somewhere.
	I think his contacts are Obama.
	I'm not sure.
	I wasn't able to find it easily, let's put it that way.
	I know this guy.
	They're calling up domain registrars and saying, you have to cut that off.
	You have to deregister them or send it to a different DNS. Otherwise, we're going to start a suit against you.
	For what?
	The registrars, think about GoDaddy.
	They just don't want the hassle.
	No, I'm...
	Oh, for what?
	Because they say that these are illegal pharmacies.
	Legit script is sending notes to pharmacies saying you're not illegal?
	No, it's sending notes to registrars, domain name registrars.
	Domain name registrars.
	What do they got to do with it?
	Well, because they have the domain name of these so-called illegal or non-legal pharmacy websites.
	You with me?
	No.
	Okay.
	You're going to sell Viagra, but it could also be a generic version of Lipitor, which is actually perfectly legal because it's out of patent.
	And you register a domain name, which is JCD's Lipitor.
	Okay, we're registered johnsdrugcompany.com.
	Yeah.
	And then you put up a website, you're selling this legit script, then contacts GoDaddy, or wherever you registered your domain name with, and says, excuse me, we represent Merck.
	You know, the guys who do $60 billion a year, we're Merck.
	And these guys have, you know, it's phony, it's illegal, whatever they say.
	Do you want us to start suing you now, or do you just want to get rid of this domain name?
	And they have this document...
	This is the ASOP, the Alliance for Safe Online Pharmacies.
	You've got to love this.
	This is where LegitScript, who they're hired by.
	Alliance for Safe Online Pharmacies.
	And so they are a 501c4, of course.
	You can only imagine who's funding them.
	Oh, yeah.
	Gee, let me think.
	What drug companies are funding these guys?
	What a moneymaker.
	And here's what they...
	In the letters that they send out to the domain name registrars is...
	The following is contained.
	Per the contract between registrars and the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers...
	Registrars have the ability to voluntarily lock and suspend illegitimate websites.
	This is even better language than lawful.
	Quote, nothing in the Registrar Accreditation Agreement, the RAA, prohibits a registrar from suspending a domain name if under the applicable laws or in accordance with terms of the registration agreement, which can mean, and I know a lot about this, believe me, These guys are worse than the FBI. The registrar deems such suspension is appropriate.
	In such circumstance, the registrar does not need a court order or a UDRP.
	I'm not sure what that is.
	Decision directing it to suspend a domain name.
	And this is working.
	I bet it isn't, because everyone's a wimp.
	That's the great thing about it.
	Now, here's what I find, just looking at legitscript.com, that I find to be funny, is they don't even do any work.
	They let you do all the work.
	You say, make safe online health purchases, and you're supposed to put in the various URLs that you might be doing business with.
	Thank you very much.
	Thank you very much.
	Of having to go out and actually find these places.
	Isn't it great?
	Wow.
	above all says John Horton president and founder stay safe on the internet If you are in the U.S. and choose to fill a prescription online, make sure that the internet pharmacy is VIPPS, accredited by the NABP, or legit script approved.
	Wow.
	What a scam.
	How can we get out on one of these?
	We're just lazy.
	This is a great idea.
	Maybe we just have to find the next great idea along these lines.
	There's got to be something that we can do.
	This is just a straight up, you know...
	Scam!
	Yeah, but it's so beautiful the way it's done.
	I know, I know, I know.
	Specifically that they don't have to do any real research themselves.
	It's also so ethical.
	This is what I like about it.
	Well...
	Man, oh man.
	Part of this giant scheme, which includes Obamacare, to just fill the pockets of the drug companies with these, you know, everything's gone up in price now that the government's paying for it.
	Oh, vaccinations are very important.
	They're...
	More or less free, but in fact the government's paying for them.
	And wow, wait a minute, a $5 vaccination, which is what it should have been, is now $50 or $100.
	But who cares?
	You're not paying for it.
	The government's paying for it.
	This is just the way it is.
	You know, I didn't want to bring this up until later on in the show, but you brought up vaccinations.
	And I have had a couple of...
	I think it was a dentist, a relatively new listener to the show.
	Maybe it wasn't even that new.
	He wrote me an email, something along the lines of, I presume that to keep a crackpot angle, you do all that anti-science stuff.
	There's a couple of things you can say to me, but don't lump me in with Republicans being anti-science.
	I'm not anti-science at all.
	I'm also not anti-vaccine.
	I'm anti-bullcrap, for sure.
	I don't think anyone can show or prove anywhere that I or you ever said polio vaccine is no good or other vaccines that have been proven for decades and decades.
	But when you come up with stuff like Gardazil, Or the swine flu.
	There's a classic.
	We saw that coming out of the blue.
	It was just handed to us with a silver platter.
	And it was obvious what was going on here.
	It was all using adjuvants and all these things.
	First you needed two shots.
	And then they changed the definition of a pandemic.
	Yeah, they changed the definition of all this.
	So this is being anti-science?
	Is this what this guy's implying?
	Well, he's an idiot.
	Well, so I had a little back and forth because he was saying, oh, you know, by the way, I believe in vaccines, but I also believe in UFOs.
	What, he believes in UFOs?
	Yeah.
	He was trying to endear me at the same time while putting me down and saying, you know, we see more and more HPV in people's mouths.
	And I write back, I say, yeah, let me guess.
	Ever since Bill Clinton made it okay for blowjobs to not be sex, I think people are having more oral sex.
	The guy writes back.
	That's a known trend.
	That's a known trend.
	That would account for seeing more HPV. Was everybody coming in with it?
	And then...
	You know, he says, yeah, oh yeah, there's definitely that, but we don't take any risks and we cut it out of the people's mouths after a buyout, whatever it is.
	So it's going on and on and on.
	And I'm like, there must be, there's got to be more that we can do to have people understand that this particular issue This particular vaccine, it really truly is a scam.
	We saw the amount of money that went into marketing this thing.
	Mickey and Christina were both terrorized by the doctors calling up after a simple pap smear with the new pap smear system, which has a much higher rate of false positives.
	We've done all of this work, all this research, and they call up and say, oh, you're precancerous.
	You should probably come by.
	We'll do a biopsy.
	This is not fun for women.
	And then the biopsy comes back and, oh, you're clean.
	But you know what?
	You probably should get the HPV shot.
	Now, there's a movie that has been put together.
	It's called One Girl, and I wanted to play a couple clips from this because they have a number of scientists, doctors, and in fact, this is Dr. Diane Harper, who was the lead Merck Gardasil researcher, and she's in this movie.
	It's professionally put together.
	I think it's onegirlmovie.com.
	Have a listen to this first clip from this movie, One Girl.
	What we know is that if you look at all the women who get an HPV infection, approximately 70% of those are going to clear that infection all by themselves within the first year with no help from anybody.
	You don't have to detect it and you don't have to make it go away.
	It's going to do it.
	The body's going to take over and do it.
	Gee, I haven't heard that.
	Of course not.
	Within two years, about 90% of all of those HPV infections are going to clear all by themselves.
	Oh, okay.
	That's 90% of cleared.
	Good.
	Now, by three years, you've got 10% of that original group of women that have HPV infections that are left.
	And by three years, half of those infections have progressed into what we call a CIN2-3 lesion or a precancerous lesion.
	So approximately 5% of HPV infections are going to go into a precancerous lesion.
	Which is not what the doctor said.
	This would take years before you can go into a precancerous lesion.
	And they're like, oh no, you're precancerous.
	And you're also pre-dead.
	So now you have that small group of women who have precancerous lesions.
	And now let's look at that moving into invasive carcinoma.
	What we know then is that amongst women with CIN3 lesions, so that's a little bit more severe than the other group, It takes five years for about 20% of them to become invasive carcinomas.
	That's a pretty slow process.
	It takes about 30 years for 40% of them to become invasive cervical carcinomas.
	So there's some numbers that you probably won't hear anywhere else except in this movie and here.
	I'll let the dentist do in his own juices.
	Then we have the negative effects.
	Dr.
	Lucia Tomlionovic, the adverse effects of this particular vaccine.
	When one looks at the independent literature, so studies which are not sponsored by the vaccine manufacturers, so with relation to Gardasil, there have been several reports documenting multiple sclerosis and encephalomyelitis, which is brain inflammation.
	Hey, this sounds good!
	In girls who have received the Gardasil vaccine.
	So, just because a study sponsored by the manufacturers does not identify problems with the vaccine does not necessarily mean that the vaccine is safe.
	In fact, if one looks at the manufacturer's studies, they're often not designed to detect serious adverse events.
	There was a study done by a group of researchers sponsored by GlaxoSmith and Kline, and they were looking at Cerverix, which is another HPV vaccine, and the authors acknowledged which is another HPV vaccine, and the authors acknowledged that none of the studies that they evaluated has been designed, none of these studies have been designed to detect autoimmune diseases,
	So, obviously, you're not going to find what you're not looking for.
	I love that.
	This is just beautiful.
	And then the one that we're most interested in, and this comes from the same movie, this is Lee O'Donnell, regarding the Vaccine Compensation Act.
	The reason vaccines are different than, say...
	A drug, a prescription drug, is that there is an act.
	It's called the Vaccine Compensation Act.
	And it was enacted, I believe, in the mid-80s.
	And the purpose of the act was to limit, in a very significant way, the number or the manner in which you could bring a claim So,
	for example, if you took Vioxx and you had a heart attack, You could bring a claim in your local state court potentially or the local federal court and be actively litigating that claim directly against Merck in that court to prove that you were damaged by the drug and to prove exactly how
	you'd been injured, what your long-term effects would be of the injury and so forth.
	But that was a direct exchange between the individual who's injured and the pharmaceutical company itself.
	In a vaccine situation, the patient who's been injured does not have the right to bring a case against Merck directly in an initial matter.
	Under the Vaccine Compensation Act, they have to file a claim in the Federal Court of Claims in D.C. And actually, the other party is the U.S. government, the Department of Justice.
	And so Merck, in some measure, or in every measure at that point, doesn't have any skin in the game.
	They have no risk.
	They have nothing.
	The government advocates sort of the safety of the vaccine.
	And the individual has a limited mechanism in which they can prove that the vaccine was the cause of their particular injury.
	So I know we've discussed this many times, but I thought this was a nice summary of how it actually works where you have no recourse.
	Yeah, that's the way it works, when you have no recourse.
	And I think this dentist who would criticize you for being unscientific should actually be scientific himself instead of just jumping to conclusions like that.
	I mean, this is what's going on with the public today.
	They get suckered by these public relations people.
	Who have good slogans like anti-science.
	Right, you propagate the anti-science thing.
	Oh, you're anti-science.
	Oh, you're a conspiracy nut.
	Conspiracy tarred.
	Conspiracy tarred.
	Well, only tards would say that.
	But the point is that if you start looking into this, you see the whole thing is a facade.
	It's just bullcrap.
	And the drug companies are behind most of it, and people like Monsanto, but the drug companies, I mean, these guys have pulled the wool over the eyes of the public by charging to...
	This latest thing going on, there's an interesting thing that I have a clip of that's going on, which I don't know how they're going to resolve this, but this...
	Where's my drug clip on here?
	Just brings me to the...
	There was a recent...
	New biotech copycat?
	Yeah, replay this.
	This is kind of a baffling clip about some new...
	They don't know what to do about what just happened with these guys.
	The U.S. Food and Drug Administration has approved the first low-cost version of a biotech drug.
	These are drugs made from a living organism.
	It is a copy of the drug neupogen that boosts blood cells in cancer patients to help fight infection.
	It wasn't until 2012 that the FDA even had a system to approve cheaper copies of expensive biotech drugs.
	The so-called biosimilar will launch later this year.
	It's pricing.
	Interesting.
	Biosimilar.
	Biosimilar, which means it's not a generic version of the drug.
	It's just something that's similar enough that it's not a spin-off either.
	It's just biosimilar.
	You can now look at the music industry and see how this will work legally.
	Like, what's it, Robin Thicke with his blurred lines and the Marvin Gaye estate sued him.
	Right.
	And this is in court right now, actually.
	First thing I learned, he didn't even write the song out.
	He just put his name on the writing credits, douchebag.
	Yeah, with that guy who's on The Voice.
	Pharrell Williams.
	Yeah, Pharrell wrote it.
	Yeah.
	On the dick.
	Well, Marvin Gaye wrote it.
	Yeah, right.
	Exactly.
	But this is like, in the music business, we say, if you get a hit, you're going to get a writ.
	It's what happens.
	Everyone jumps out of the woodwork.
	But with this bio-similar stuff, write that down too.
	You always say, when a show is done, when it's in the can...
	We choose art, and here's what's been happening for the past year.
	Well, how about the title, John?
	No, I got nothing.
	Just the past couple of months.
	I got nothing.
	Okay, past couple of months.
	I got nothing.
	Is that your imitation of me?
	Yeah, and then we wind up with Oatmeal as a title.
	That was a good title.
	Not really.
	It was a good title with that picture.
	Yeah, okay.
	Okay, fine.
	All righty.
	I wrote down biosimilar.
	What a great title that might be.
	Anyway, the point is that there was a recent $21 billion buyout of some little biotech around here because they have a cancer treatment.
	And the cancer treatment, it costs $100,000 a year or $10,000 a month.
	It's like these guys are completely out of control.
	That's why a little small startup can sell for $21 billion.
	It's crazy.
	We need single-payer.
	Yeah.
	Anything but this.
	This is the worst.
	And we're going to start yelling more loudly about this the older we get.
	Yay!
	We need single-payer!
	If you're going to go into this, I mean, you can pull back the whole thing and hope it would revert, but with the insurance companies involved and all these health management operations, it's done.
	I mean, yeah, back in the 50s and 60s when doctors were making house calls and drugs were a dollar, I mean, things were different.
	But as days are over, when the insurance companies got a clue and they took over the place, and now it's like everything's a giant scam.
	A single payer would fix that.
	Well, to a point.
	It wouldn't perfectly fix it, but it would do better than this.
	Anyway, science.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Well, look at him.
	Look at what's going on.
	Look at Bill Nye, the climate guy.
	First of all, he was a clown.
	He had balloon animals or something.
	And then, wasn't he Ronald McDonald as well?
	I'm going to think of somebody.
	Was that Dick Cheney?
	I don't know.
	But then, you know, he's about clients, clients, and blah, blah, blah.
	And he goes, this is Monsanto, and comes away a believer.
	He's going to revise a whole chapter in his book, because he spent time with the scientists.
	At Monsanto.
	Yeah, at Monsanto.
	Monsanto.
	He was making balloon animals for him, and they said, hey.
	Oh, that's, well, yeah, you ask, how does he make his money?
	Well, hello.
	It seems pretty obvious now.
	He makes his money.
	That's horrible.
	Well, you know, these guys, you know, they bring out the pretty girls who happen to be in the public relations department.
	Yeah, well, here's my question.
	I think we've reached a number of people.
	I think we, you know, I could be...
	I wouldn't mind at least them trying.
	Oh, trying to convince you otherwise?
	Yeah, with the pretty girls.
	Yeah.
	Hi, Mr.
	Curry.
	Yeah, she'll pick you up in an hour.
	She'll bring you to the office.
	We have a lunch brought in.
	You don't mind.
	What kind of sandwich do you like?
	Turkey on rye.
	Okay, we'll have that for you.
	Anything to drink?
	Iced tea, please.
	Oh, okay.
	Great.
	Great.
	That's great.
	Stop.
	Stop.
	Yeah, no, they gave up on me.
	Amen.
	Fist bump.
	Yeah, sorry.
	Texas News, hit it.
	I don't have a jingle.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I understand what you mean now.
	Good.
	A Muslim Iraqi immigrant has been shot dead in Dallas, Texas, and what police are investigating is a possible hate crime.
	Relatives told local media Ahmed Al-Jumaili was out taking pictures of the snow with his family when they walked past two men who then opened fire.
	Al-Jumaili had reunited with his wife in Dallas just 20 days ago after moving from Iraq.
	Eh, Texas.
	Killing some poor guy.
	When it snows, we get really confused in Texas.
	Then we start killing people.
	Yeah, I saw this before.
	I think I saw it at the airport, actually, while I was waiting to leave.
	Eh, who knows what's going on.
	Was there any conclusion?
	She just blathers these news items off and she doesn't do anything.
	And then after she does all the news headlines and she gets clips from somewhere, then they talk about Ferguson for an hour.
	That's about that.
	Do you believe something is still trying to be ignited in this regard?
	At Ferguson?
	No, just in general.
	Well, look, it's democracy now.
	It's PBS. It's incessant.
	So much that you wrote about it in the newsletter.
	Is this just to continue to divide black and white people in America?
	Is that what this is?
	I don't know.
	It seems like it's a foreboding of some sort.
	I mean, everybody's on the story.
	They keep harping on it.
	They keep revisiting it.
	Meanwhile, of course, I was listening to Chewy Garcia discuss Chicago's had, like, during the Rahm Emanuel era, 10,000 shootings.
	Wait, how many years was that?
	He's only been gone for...
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Yeah, it's shootings or deaths by shooting?
	No, it's shootings, and then the number of deaths is like 4,000.
	It's a huge number.
	It's funny.
	I have a Chewy clip.
	I have a Chewy clip.
	Let's do your Chewy clip.
	Well, let's see what I have so I can set it up.
	Something with the Tribune?
	Chicago Tribune?
	The Chicago Tribune clip is funny, yes.
	Okay.
	...of the city's elite.
	I want to read from a Chicago Tribune investigation of Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel and his top 100 donors that found, quote, a pattern of mutually beneficial interactions between the mayor and his major supporters.
	Nearly 60 percent of those 103 donors benefited from his city government receiving contracts, zoning changes, business permits, pension work, board appointments, regulatory help, or some other tangible benefit.
	Yet despite this, the Chicago Tribune went on to endorse Emmanuel for mayor.
	This whole issue of pay to play, could you talk about that?
	Well, you know, as you pointed out, Juan, the two-part series that showed a clear pattern of pay-to-play, unethical conduct, favoring the rich and powerful in Chicago, came out Sunday and Monday of February 1st, 2nd.
	By the end of the week, they had endorsed the mayor for re-election, so it's highly ironic that that took place.
	Amen.
	Fist bump.
	That's how it goes.
	Exactly.
	Yeah, fantastic.
	Very good.
	So he...
	This guy Chewy...
	I like this guy.
	Chewy, which I was schooled...
	It's a nickname for Jesus...
	I got a lot of email about this.
	I got none.
	Yeah, I didn't know it, but apparently if your name is Jesus, then your nickname is Chewy.
	Huh.
	And I believe it's spelled C-H-U-E-Y. Yes.
	You have C-H-E-W-I-E. I put that on as a joke.
	Oh, okay.
	Very funny.
	Here is Chewy.
	I hanglicized it.
	Very good.
	Chewy's making campaign promises.
	Jesus Garcia says if he's elected mayor of Chicago, he'll shut down the city's red light camera program.
	G. Wang is live at North Avenue in Pulaski with more.
	Wait a minute.
	Is the guy's name G Wang?
	G Wang.
	Red light camera program.
	G Wang is live at North.
	It's Ginny Wang.
	I thought it was Ginny Wang.
	North Avenue in Pulaski with more.
	Judy?
	Oh, Judy Wang.
	Getting rid of these red light cameras, that contradicts what Chewy Garcia has said in the past.
	Now notice, the lead-in said Jesus and she says Chewy.
	He voted in favor of more red light cameras in the county.
	So he's doing a reverse.
	So he's just like everyone else in Chicago.
	He was all in, and now he's saying, oh, yeah, I'll take him out.
	Garcia says given what he's seen with the city's program, it's time to end what he calls the red light ripoff.
	The red light ripoff!
	Garcia vows to remove the cameras on his first day of office.
	Garcia, who faces Rahm Emanuel in next month's runoff, says the system is flawed and taxpayers have paid a high price.
	The cameras generate about $70 million a year for the city.
	Garcia did not reveal how he would make up for that lost revenue.
	Yeah.
	By extorting hookers.
	There's all kinds of ways of doing it.
	Yeah.
	So he's very similar, of course.
	And I voted for him and then against him.
	He probably voted for them when he was making some money off of him.
	That's how that stuff usually gets in, whatever company's making them or...
	John, has it always been like this?
	Is there any way back?
	In Chicago?
	Well, in general.
	Not just in Chicago, but in general.
	Yeah, of course it has.
	It's just that the problem is it relies on a public that is suckered into being crazy about some of this stuff.
	Most people go, eh, that's the way it's always been.
	I have a clip called Emmanuel for Mayor, which includes part of his, it's about him running for mayor, and it includes part of his new campaign advertisement, which I find to be quite funny.
	To say to all those big corporations and special interests who've spent all those millions to install their own mayor.
	We want change!
	Now a new poll shows the gap between the Garcia and Emmanuel closing to what the Chicago Sun-Times calls a dead heat.
	Emmanuel leads by 43% Garcia.
	Yeah, right.
	We know why it's a dead heat.
	We know the dead heat story.
	He's got to keep it going for the more advertisements.
	Oh, it's a close race.
	Very, very close race, just like The Voice.
	The incumbent mayor faces public dissatisfaction over his closing of 50 schools in mostly African-American neighborhoods, his handling of a 2012 teacher strike, and the city's high murder rate and levels of gun violence.
	This week, Mayor Emanuel is going on the offensive.
	He's running a series of new campaign ads.
	Say your greatest strength is also your greatest weakness.
	I'm living proof of that.
	I can rub people the wrong way or talk when I should listen.
	I own that.
	But I'm driven to make a difference.
	When politics stood in the way of a full-day kindergarten or tougher gun laws, I charged ahead.
	And when business interests said a $13 minimum wage was too high, I didn't back down.
	Look, I'm not going to always get it right.
	But when it comes to fighting for Chicago and Chicago's future, no one's going to fight harder.
	I don't.
	Right.
	I own that.
	I'm a jerk.
	I don't listen.
	I own that.
	So that means I should vote for you because you're a jerk and you own it?
	That means you're bragging about being a jerk.
	Yeah.
	Chicago is screwed.
	It doesn't make any difference who wins.
	Chewy would just be more fun.
	Yeah.
	We'll see how he does.
	It's a dead heat right now.
	It's a dead heat.
	Send your cash.
	What do you think?
	There's no way Chewy can win, right?
	There's no way.
	That's not how Chicago works.
	No, Chicago doesn't work that way.
	No, no, no.
	But the media is definitely going to gouge the Chicagoans by keeping it a dead heat.
	By polling bullshit polls.
	So close.
	Dead heat.
	Oh, Chewie's ahead by a point!
	Dead heat.
	That's fantastic.
	So we make light of these types of episodes and these types of stories because we have to.
	We can only...
	Address this with whatever mocking humor we have left.
	It's a protectionary measure.
	And you need to learn how to do this as well.
	Not you, John.
	A lot of people have done a pretty good job.
	I have one more clip about this.
	Okay.
	About Chicago?
	Yeah.
	Oh, good, good, good, good.
	What do you got?
	One last Chicago clip.
	Teacher's Union versus Emmanuel.
	We can stop this after the woman says the first couple of things, which I just thought.
	Very believable.
	I think this probably goes on more than we'd like to imagine of a cynical government workers telling it like it is but shouldn't be talking at all.
	We can have great schools everywhere in the city of Chicago and educational equity.
	Speaking of education, we interviewed Karen Lewis several times, the president of the Chicago Teachers Union, and she told us about a private meeting she had with Mayor Rahm Emanuel.
	This was back in 2012 we had this discussion.
	The meeting was about the city's plan to shut down seven schools and fire all the teachers at ten other schools.
	When I first met him, we had dinner together, and he said, well, you know, 25% of these kids are never going to be anything, they're never going to amount to anything, and I'm not throwing money at it.
	And I was like, wow.
	Wait a minute.
	I want to hear that again.
	It's hilarious.
	It's great.
	And you know it's true.
	Yes, of course it is.
	You know, 25% of these kids are never going to be anything, they're never going to amount to anything, and I'm not throwing money at it.
	And I was like, wow.
	Wow.
	I hear the nurses in the hospital with the sick kids talking the same way.
	What are we going to do?
	We just want to smother these kids.
	You know, they're never going to make it.
	It's not worth it.
	Even if you believe that, you can't say that to me.
	So...
	That's good.
	You can kill it there.
	I liked it.
	That was good.
	Why waste money?
	Well...
	Why are we wasting money on these losers?
	This is a legitimate question.
	This, ultimately, that comes...
	That is the...
	To me, that is the...
	And now as I'm getting older, so maybe you can jump in...
	That is the ultimate question.
	At what point should society give up on people who are just worthless?
	At no point.
	That's the real answer to that question.
	But does that mean that everyone has to be throwing money into the pot for taxes?
	Really?
	That is your belief?
	Yeah.
	So when you're 80, when you're 90, then finally the ass cancer comes.
	Should we be...
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Then you want treatment.
	Yeah, I haven't soaked the government for anything at some point.
	If I'm 90 with butt cancer, which I hope I don't have, I'd rather just drop dead in my sleep, to be honest about it.
	Yeah.
	And I eat a lot of roughage, so I'm not too concerned about that.
	Unlike some people who just eat carbohydrates, and yeah, they're the ones who have the problem.
	I eat roughage.
	And I expect to get some consideration, of course.
	And I think that there We're losers in society that many people have turned around.
	I've known a number myself who have these horrible stories about what punks they were when they were kids and da-da-da.
	Next thing you know, they discovered something, they got interested, they went back to school, and now they're running some big company and it's an important company and they're the CEO. This can happen.
	Yeah, okay, maybe he's right.
	If you're going to be cold-blooded, about 25% of these kids are losers.
	But what about the rest of them that are kind of mixed up with these 25% losers?
	Well, should we sift them out, or what do we do?
	Kids sift them out.
	That's the problem.
	You just have to throw money at it.
	But you don't have to waste money.
	Ah, shit.
	Don, ah, caveats.
	Wisely spent is one thing.
	Squandering it on middle management is a whole different story, and that's the complaint.
	Okay.
	That's the complaint, not the overall money spent.
	Oh, okay.
	All right.
	Yeah.
	You have a fair point.
	Because of the insurance system, because of it...
	The way it was all set up.
	And we know that the parallel is insurance for your pets.
	And now just, I mean, I've had pets all my life.
	And I recall going to the veterinarian.
	You know, you get a shot, it was a couple bucks.
	Okay, fine.
	Yeah, well, nowadays.
	Now it's 400.
	That's because there's been a bunch of large corporations like HMOs for pets.
	I went to one of these with a dog.
	These HMOs for pets.
	And it's like you're going into a meat grinder that's very slick.
	And they have their little rooms.
	And they charge you for everything.
	And they put this dog cone around the dog's head.
	And it costs you 200 bucks.
	and everything's a rip-off.
	It's exactly the same with humans, and this is the problem.
	It's not the...
	I mean, the money well spent is one thing, but spent on these operations, these corporate entities that have just decided that they can put it, you know, it's like everything's like an auto mechanic where you have a list of charges and you're going to charge the person every single item on the list, whether you use the item or not.
	Now, you said something that caught my attention.
	Do you really want to die in your sleep?
	Just snuff out like that?
	Oh, that or skydiving.
	I was going to say fiery ball of flames was kind of my idea.
	I don't want to be in a ball of flames.
	Like Harrison Ford.
	Harrison Ford came close.
	That would have been pretty cool.
	That's a good way to go.
	I mean, I'm happy he had an excellent landing, as you know.
	Yes, no, I saw the plane.
	When you walk away from any aircraft, you had a good landing.
	I think he walked away and then collapsed because he had broken something, his pelvic bone.
	You want to hear the audio of him declaring an emergency?
	Oh, yeah, we love these audios.
	This is all the audio there is, really.
	It's kind of cool because you hear him.
	It's Harrison Ford.
	That's what's cool about it.
	He has a distinct voice.
	5, 3, 1, 2.
	That's it.
	Immediate engine failure, immediate return.
	5-3-1-7-8, engine failure, immediate return.
	Isn't that cool?
	Yeah.
	He did a good job, by the way.
	He had a lot of experts.
	Amen.
	When you have an engine failure on climbing out, that is pretty much the worst.
	And there's only one way to go.
	First, it was reported like 200 feet or something.
	But even for him to say, returning immediately, if this happens, you have an engine failure on takeoff and you're climbing out, there's only one way you're going to go, and that's straight ahead, down, and fast.
	Particularly in this craft, which I love reading aviation-related stories.
	It was a vintage jet in one story.
	It was a vintage jet.
	Vintage jet.
	It was a lightweight plane, like an ultra, you know, feather light, whatever.
	No one has this right.
	It's ridiculous.
	It was a trainer.
	It was some old World War II trainer, right?
	Yeah.
	I think PT-22.
	Yeah, something like that.
	You take a look at the pictures and obviously World War II. Beautiful.
	Actually, early World War II because it had the crazy circle star thing, which is before predates the modern insignias.
	Yeah.
	And I love the internet, though.
	I love the show.
	This is the same thing that's going to happen to Larry Ellison.
	He's got a saber jet.
	I think it's a Mirage as well, isn't it?
	Oh, he might.
	He might have two or three jets.
	But the one he likes flying is the Sabre Jet, you know, the clunker from the Korean War.
	I like flying things, but I like modern things.
	Yeah, you're modern.
	With a dude who I know who's performing maintenance.
	This is what I want.
	But anyway, so skydiving.
	Well, we could combine our deaths then.
	That would be good.
	Skydive into a flaming ball.
	Yeah, yeah, exactly.
	All right, let's thank some people for what they've done.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	Before you start, John, what are the chances that you crash land on a golf course and there's a doctor on the golf course?
	How does that even happen?
	Well, I think the golf course has got nothing but doctors.
	Hello!
	That's why you want to crash land on a golf course.
	That's why they're right by the airport, too.
	Yeah.
	You know you've got a doctor nearby.
	There's always a doctor playing golf.
	Exactly.
	We have a few people to thank.
	And again, this was actually, well, I guess we expected not to do great.
	This is short.
	This is only 20, of all the people, 14,000 people we mailed to, a whopping 22 of them came up with 50 bucks or more.
	Okay.
	We don't even have a $49.99, I don't think, on this list.
	A check came in, though, for that.
	Okay.
	Well, let's just thank these people.
	It's the salt of the earth.
	We might as well read their notes.
	I'll read a couple.
	I'll read Jennifer's note.
	Okay.
	Jennifer Loveberg in San Marcos, California, $100.
	Dear John and Adam, thank you both for keeping me relatively sane.
	My son and I appreciate your show.
	He turned 18 on the 3rd of March and is the reason I found no agenda.
	So the son discovered the 8th old boy, that mom listening.
	Cool.
	Which is what we appreciate.
	Love that.
	Please send him birthday wishes.
	Also, please play the rant from the lady who tells the pigs in human clothing that these are the new truths.
	Where is that from, she wonders?
	Ah, that is from Archer, and I'm very happy you asked.
	Shall I play that real quick?
	I have a new one from Archer, if you want.
	Oh, play him back-to-back.
	Okay, back-to-back.
	Here we go.
	This is the original, which, of course, has some of our sound effects of marching underneath it.
	Fear is freedom.
	Subjugation is liberation.
	Contradiction is truth.
	Those are the facts of this world.
	And you will all surrender to them.
	You pigs in human clothing.
	All right.
	So that is the first one.
	Now, they're in Season 5, I believe, and I saw, I think, a post from Sir Gene, Baron de Marriott, Sheriff of Texas, that he does not like what is happening with Season 5 of Archer.
	I think this might be from Season 5.
	Can somebody explain to me why the CIA is spying on American allies?
	Well, Ray, there were these things called dinosaurs, and when they died, they'd turn into oil somehow, and that's what your car uses for food.
	Thanks, Al.
	Al Jazeera.
	Actually, I was wrong.
	Screw that up.
	What was that?
	That wasn't from Archer?
	That is from Archer.
	The Pigs in Human Clothing is from Kill to Kill.
	I'm sorry.
	The other Archer one is...
	Here we go.
	I don't want a million emails, so don't email me.
	Oh my god!
	That is amazing!
	There you go.
	That's the one from Archer.
	I'm glad I caught it now, or the Jackson chatroom caught it for me, because you know what happens?
	When you say something wrong on this podcast, John, you know what happens?
	You get emails.
	People immediately stop the show, email what an idiot I am, and then you see like an hour later, oh, I just listened to the rest of the show.
	I'm sorry, man.
	Right, they do that.
	Therefore, taking up twice the bits and bandwidth.
	If we do a mea culpa or a correction...
	Too late in the show.
	Like 15 minutes after we make a mistake.
	What in two minutes?
	It's too late.
	We get all this email because people won't listen to the whole show before they...
	Oh, man.
	Oh, I have to email them immediately.
	There's nothing more important to do than email us immediately over these errors.
	We don't make that many, by the way.
	Very rare.
	You just made one, but you corrected it on the spot.
	John Holler in Missoula, Montana.
	$99.99.
	It'll be 71 years old.
	So we got 18-year-olds, we got 15-year-olds, we got 30-year-olds, we got middle-aged, we got 71.
	We got an astonishing assortment of ages that listen to this show.
	Yeah, we do.
	It makes me very proud.
	Michael Siegenthaler in Phoenix, Arizona, 7777.
	Jennifer Hedrick and Carlos Pacina in Harvard, Illinois.
	He gave him the great work.
	Sir Bereslaw Marinoff in Trabuco Canyon, California.
	We'll put some job karma at the end of this.
	He says he needs job karma to everyone else that was laid off from gridstone.
	That's the company he's been donating and telling us the whole story and that people needed job karma.
	It looks like everyone was going to be okay.
	He has his own little...
	He should do a podcast about this.
	He's got something going on with it.
	Shop opera.
	Yeah, a soap opera.
	Yes, a pod opera.
	Oh!
	Pod opera.
	Register that.
	Podopera.com.
	Pod opera.
	Pod opera.
	Podopera.
	Pod opera.
	It just sounds bad.
	I like the pod opera.
	I had a pod opera for lunch.
	You could say pod opera.
	It just depends on how you want to pronounce it.
	Peter McConnell in Stockholm, New Jersey, 7010, and he wants us to say, okay, Google, erase address book.
	Erase.
	Funny you say this.
	Everybody who has an iPhone, I'd like you to do the following.
	If you're not listening on the iPhone, I was, so Christina is my witness, and I was able to reproduce it consistently.
	I was watching the CPAC interview.
	It was Judge Napolitano who finally got a gig.
	They hired him to interview Hayden on the stage there at the conservative...
	Michael Hayden was there?
	Yeah.
	Oh, and by the way, the judge said, oh, he's a patriot.
	He's a good guy.
	That was very, very, very disappointing.
	Very disappointing.
	So I'm listening on my laptop, and my iPhone 6, as you know, I'm all in.
	I got everything.
	I'm all in on all this stuff.
	It's plugged in.
	Now, when it's plugged in, then if you say, hey, and then the S word, it will activate, and And it will do whatever you ask it to do.
	As long as it's plugged in, you don't have to press the button.
	This is something that hurts.
	Hey Siri!
	Well?
	Cancel all my appointments.
	So Hayden says something, and Siri activates, and then says, I don't understand what you want me to do.
	And it was based on this clip from Hayden saying this.
	Well, listen to it, and if you're listening at home, then you have an iPhone.
	Participate, and let's see if it works.
	Only you can give it up.
	The majority cannot take it away from you, and certainly, American spies cannot take it away from you.
	So on the word certainly, the way he says it, Siri activated.
	So let me just see if anyone can do that now in the chat room.
	I'd love to know if that worked or not.
	Certainly!
	Certainly!
	Only you can give it up.
	The majority cannot take it away from you, and certainly American spies cannot take it away from you.
	I don't know what you want with American spies.
	Certainly!
	Certainly!
	So again, I'm thinking, if I'm ever interviewed, On a live show, something, you know, if it's on TV. But it can be on the radio.
	I know exactly what you're going to say.
	Michael Jackson was murdered!
	No, no, I'm trying to reclaim being asked on live TV after that one.
	That screwed up my live TV. Hey, that guy's no good, man.
	You can't be calling him for the show.
	That guy's no good.
	Or maybe we could just go through the street and You know, with a megaphone card.
	Hey Siri!
	Okay Google!
	Alexa!
	I'm still baffled that this is...
	It's also the one that we always forget about and never mention, which is that Miranda or...
	From Windows?
	Whatever that thing is for the Windows phone.
	Murray?
	Is it Murray?
	What is it?
	I don't know what it is.
	Yeah, I forget.
	It's Ingram or Lola?
	I can't remember the name of what the phone is.
	Her name was Lola.
	All right, let's check it out.
	Windows...
	Windows Phone Bitch?
	What's her name?
	Bitch?
	I'll just try Bitch.
	No, I think it's a male name.
	What is her name?
	Cortina.
	Do you have to say something else about Cortina?
	Hello, Cortina.
	Erase all my appointments.
	Or was it Cortana?
	It's Cortana.
	Cortana, that's it.
	Cortana.
	That's their marketing there.
	Well, let me see.
	We just approved Microsoft can't market.
	Oh, I got it, John.
	Here's what you do.
	Ready?
	Cortana.
	Listen, I got it.
	Okay, Google.
	Tweet the No Agenda show is great.
	Ooh.
	Hey, Siri.
	Tweet the No Agenda show is fantastic.
	Hey Cortana, tweet the No Agenda show as the best podcast in the universe.
	Hey Siri, post to Facebook, No Agenda is cool.
	We should just record a bunch of these.
	We should.
	Alright, onward.
	It's a security hole of epic proportions.
	Yes, it is.
	Daniel Hoffman, $70, Honolulu, Hawaii.
	Anonymous from San Francisco, South San Francisco, California, $69.69.
	Slightly drunk.
	Been drunk on this beautifully warm California evening.
	Just got John's email about no donations.
	Well, do it in the drunk voice.
	Sorry, I couldn't donate more.
	I'm a 22-year-old student learning the ways of getting a donation for a career in the public sector enforcing law, so I'm not exactly rolling through the dough.
	However, Atlas willing, I'll be making more money so I can donate more frequently.
	Okay, there you go.
	Oh, that's nice.
	By Ayn Rand.
	What'd you play that for?
	He said Atlas Willing.
	Oh, Atlas Willing.
	Thank you.
	Sir Tom Kumbera.
	Tom Kumbera.
	5676 from Lost Wages, Nevada.
	Kiwi Chris in Wellington, New Zealand.
	5555.
	Neglectful donors.
	He's got a birthday coming up for too long.
	It's my birthday today.
	I thought it was time to turn over a new leaf.
	Very nice.
	He says, the only thing I want for my birthday is for people to stop saying down south or up north.
	Where else can it be?
	Down north or up south?
	So why are you using so many words?
	Sounds like one of my complaints.
	Okay, Google, give me directions up north.
	Daniel Niwong in Sweden, $50.
	And these are $50 donors.
	There's only a few.
	Eric Grunewald in South Africa.
	Grunewald.
	Grunewald.
	He's got to be Dutch.
	I mean, South Africa.
	Yeah, South Africa Dutch.
	Stania Silander in Montreal, Quebec.
	Did you get Daniel Niwong?
	Yeah.
	I'm sorry.
	I didn't hear it.
	I'm sorry.
	I didn't hear it.
	Yep.
	Jonathan Beres in Amesbury, Massachusetts.
	Jan van der Laan in Austin.
	Drinta.
	Drinta.
	Brian Scozzaro in Chattanooga, Tennessee, where the choo-choo is.
	Corey McDonald in Richfield, Minnesota.
	Eric Mann in Spring Hill something, Florida.
	John Stragge in San Antonio, Texas, right up the street from you.
	And finally, Sir Brian Watson in Raleigh, North Carolina comes in quite often, as well as Brett Farrell in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
	And that is it for our show 702's donations, and hopefully people will pick up the pace a little bit for show 703 coming up just prior to Pi Day.
	Yes, this is...
	Next Sunday.
	Is that next Sunday?
	Next Sunday is Pi Day 31415.
	And people in Europe and people in the Netherlands in particular, I would say supporting the No Agenda show right now is cheaper than ever.
	How's it cheaper than ever?
	Well, if you're in Europe and you're sending us euros...
	Oh shit, it's the other way around.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Yeah, that's what I mean.
	Oh, God.
	You know what?
	It's the time thing.
	It's all of the stuff put together, and it's just...
	Oh, man.
	How do I get out of that, John?
	We did our best for years when it was $1.45, and now it's $1.11.
	I thought it went under $1.10.
	Oh, maybe it is.
	Let me check the latest.
	Zero versus...
	That's his last Tuesday.
	It was $1.11.
	$1.08!
	Wow!
	Wow!
	You're kidding me!
	I'm coming over!
	Oh, man.
	Let me think.
	You know, I just can't get out of it.
	No, you can't.
	You just screwed up.
	So what?
	Yeah, exactly.
	Who cares?
	Yeah, who cares?
	It's not like they're throwing money at us anyway.
	Yeah, except for Jan van der Laan.
	He's our guy.
	Yeah.
	He's always there.
	Exactly.
	Dvorak.org slash NJ. It's the last day in the last day.
	Hey, hey, hey.
	Jennifer Lomberg says happy birthday to her son who turned 18 on March 3rd.
	John Haller, as we mentioned earlier, will be turning 72 on the 12th.
	And Sir Kiwi Chris celebrating his birthday today.
	Happy birthday.
	Well meant.
	Love and kisses from all your friends, the staff of management at the best podcast in the universe.
	And of course, not to be expected, no nightings today, but to reiterate Sir Thomas Nussbaum, becomes Earl.
	That's a big deal.
	Yeah, he must have a protector, doesn't he?
	Well, I don't know that he's asked for one, but he gets whatever he wants.
	I think it's itm.im slash peerage.
	Oh, okay.
	As an early, pick up a few extra areas.
	Okay.
	Well, let us know, Sir Thomas.
	Yeah, take your time.
	And thank you very much for supporting us.
	We really needed it.
	I'm happy that Grand Duke came in.
	It's just...
	It's not easy.
	So Jihadi John, I'm just looking through some of the stuff here.
	Jihadi John, I'm just trying to figure, you know, I'm trying to give you some local flavor.
	Yeah, where's our local flavor?
	You're over there, and we're expecting European perspectives.
	I arrived here, you know, like Saturday, barely slept, and I wasn't walking.
	It was, you know, it's freezing, and so give me a day.
	Oh, you just got in?
	Yeah.
	Well, that's no good.
	What'd you read on the plane?
	Well, you didn't get us that one tip, so that's a good one.
	Yeah, that was worth it.
	Oh, yeah.
	Daily Star in the UK, headline, Jihadi John kidnapped and stripped boys on the M1. They're really going all out for this now, aren't they?
	What?
	Yeah.
	He was kidnapping kids when he was still in the UK, Gitmo Nation East.
	So he was a kidnapper.
	And he would strip the boys.
	Strip them.
	And he would strip to kidnap boys.
	Because all these Islamist fighters, they're all homosexuals.
	Because that's so their culture.
	And rapists.
	And rapists.
	That's so their culture.
	Of boys.
	Of boys.
	Please.
	Please.
	We did see, let's see, the President delegated his, was it the delegation?
	Yeah, so we have the money for the Overseas Contingency Operations Global War on Terrorism Fund, which I believe he has designated the actual doling out of that money now to Watermelon Head.
	He does this a lot.
	Whenever you have the National Defense Authorization Act...
	Jihadi John is giving money to Watermelon Head?
	No, Barack Obama.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, he sent a message to Congress, designation of the funding of overseas contingency operations.
	And it's also...
	This is how they funded the Department of Homeland Security.
	But then in there, there's this like, let John Kerry determine when we can send money to people or weapons.
	And I believe we sent weapons, did we not?
	We sent some more stuff over?
	I don't know.
	Yeah, I think so.
	Whatever they tell us is a lie.
	Well, some things are kind of reported.
	Well, I do have one more clip about the ISIS folks.
	Because, you know, they've been trying to...
	You did not just say folks.
	I did.
	The ISIS folks.
	They keep trying to up the ante on them being a bunch of a-holes.
	So the latest one, which I find to be...
	It's getting there.
	It's getting pretty funny.
	And this is closer to what the Taliban was doing.
	Play the clip, Bulldozing Valuable Ruins.
	Ah, yes.
	This is very good.
	Militants with the self-proclaimed Islamic State have reportedly bulldozed the ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud in northern Iraq in what the head of UNESCO has called a war crime.
	The ancient site was founded in the 13th century B.C.
	Its reported destruction comes a week after video showed ISIS militants smashing priceless statues at the Mosul Museum northwest of Nimrud.
	Further south, meanwhile, Iraqi forces and Iranian-backed militias are continuing their bid to retake the city of Tikrit from ISIL.
	You know, we know that this is not true. - I'm doing a little bit of warming when she's done.
	What the?
	No, nothing.
	Never mind.
	No, I know.
	We know that part was not true.
	I don't know if this is even...
	No one has a movie of this either.
	How come they don't have movies of this?
	Have you noticed they...
	You know, there's always a...
	They had a story the last show.
	we didn't use it but about some 12 year old was taken by the i guess it was the iranian forces as they were pushing back the isis folks and they had some 12 year olds so they murdered this 12 year old and then they had a cam a little phone cam picture of this 12 year old they didn't show them getting shot but And it, of course, was shot vertically, which is annoying.
	That's a no-no.
	It's just a no-no.
	Everyone does that, though.
	Everyone shoots vertically.
	So you have this stupid TV report with a vertical video with little pictures on the side of nothing.
	Well, no, they replicate the video.
	Who's in their right mind is going to take a movie of this and not, hey, Abdul, stop it.
	Pull out their phone.
	This is bullcrap.
	There we go, I'm sorry.
	Well, but this is, even though we know that it's been confirmed that most of these pieces are in Western, the Museum of London, or they're in Baghdad, just opened a new expo with all of the actual pieces, and they keep running that footage over and over again of the guys hitting this plaster of Paris, and then the wires popping out, the rods, and they just keep saying, oh, it's a priceless piece.
	Priceless antique.
	What are we going to do?
	What are we going to do?
	Well, here's Denmark in a...
	I found this to be interesting.
	Denmark, of course, as we know, is always voted the country where the people are the happiest on earth.
	Happiest.
	Of course, they also have a very high level of usage of antidepressants, which keeps you pretty happy for a while.
	And now they're debating this.
	And I don't know enough about the educational system in Denmark, but we do have a few listeners there, so I look forward to feedback.
	The Danish Teaching Association wants controversial cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed to be included in school textbooks.
	The idea is supported by two conservative opposition parties.
	The immigration spokesperson for right-wing People's Party went as far as to say that it should be obligatory because of the challenges posed by Islam and the pressure on basic freedoms.
	Other supporters insisted the Charlie Hebdo killings and recent terrorist attacks in Copenhagen are an important part of history, which should not be ignored.
	Wow.
	That's pretty...
	I think it's bold.
	Yeah.
	Well, that's a lot different than what's going on in our country.
	We have new holidays in New York that celebrate things I don't even know what they're talking about.
	New York City has made history by adding two Muslim holidays to its school calendar.
	Mayor Bill de Blasio announced this week New York would become the first major city to close school on Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha.
	Muslims in New York have spent at least nine years fighting for the holidays recognition.
	Shijat Khan of the Coalition for Muslim School Holidays celebrated the win.
	We feel included in this melting pot of the country and we take pride of that.
	Whole world is watching us and our fight can come to a successful close.
	Thank you all for coming.
	Thank you all for listening and thank you all for the support.
	We did it.
	We just did it.
	Thank you.
	Now, question for you.
	This sounded like he was an Indian or Pakistani guy?
	Yeah, it could have been.
	And it would have sounded more authentic if it was...
	Arab.
	Yeah.
	How about something that just sounded like a normal person?
	Why do this guy, you know?
	This guy has a deep accent.
	Who's been apparently pushing this for the last nine years and hasn't improved his accent.
	What's your feeling on this?
	If I'm moving to France and learning French, I am going to eliminate my American accent over ten years.
	I'm just going to get rid of it.
	Well, it's not always that easy.
	And it's certainly not easy when you're older.
	When you're young, like, I came in at the perfect age.
	You can see it with my sisters.
	I came in, I was seven.
	Into the Netherlands, Tiffany was five.
	Willow was a larvae.
	Three.
	And I speak English and Dutch fluently.
	Tiffany speaks Dutch better than I do.
	And her English is...
	It's almost accentless.
	And then Willow, of course, now Willow speaks Italian because he lived in Italy for all this time, but her English was much poorer compared to her Dutch.
	Just age range.
	And then, you know, whatever else, she comes along with that.
	And my parents, my dad, he can barely speak English, but his Dutch is atrocious, although people find it endearing and cute.
	Did Willow live in the United States for 10 years?
	No, no.
	Well, that was my point.
	I'm sorry, but we spoke English at home is my point.
	We were the whole family unit emigrated, not just by ourselves.
	All right.
	So you're saying people that are past a certain age, they can't do shit?
	No, I'm saying it's a little harder to do that, what you just said you would do it in 10 years.
	That sounds like an ageist kind of...
	No, I'm speaking from experience.
	You have trouble?
	Is your Dutch deteriorating?
	It's not as good as it used to be, for sure.
	I know I can't code as well as I could when I was 20.
	So maybe there's something to that.
	And if I go to a Windows machine, like a Windows 3.1, have you done this?
	Go to a Windows 3.1 machine and try to get a program to run.
	It's like, what is this?
	What is this stupid looking thing?
	It's just like this alien.
	I don't really remember what it looked like, to be quite honest.
	Go to find a gold Windows machine.
	You probably have one.
	Windows.
	Just in the garage or something.
	Boot it up and try to do anything with it.
	You will find that it's impossible.
	That things were garbage.
	Let me see.
	I'm just going to look at...
	Oh, right.
	Oh, yes.
	You had all these windows that would pop open.
	Then it would be...
	I do remember this.
	Yeah, there was no start button.
	Well, there's that, there's file, it's called file handler or some, these little crazy little icons.
	I'm looking here, you had, well, you had your main, your games, your accessories, and your media.
	And then you click that and it opened up a window and in there you had your, right?
	That's how, yeah, that's what it was.
	Something like that.
	You wanted to find, there was the, you know, it's like the finder on the Mac.
	Right, right, right.
	I don't know why it's still stupid.
	Anyway.
	I'm just looking at this.
	Okay.
	I'll buy it.
	I can learn good French then.
	I'm screwed.
	But I'm still stuck at the school closings for religious holidays.
	Is this normal behavior in New York?
	With de Blasio, apparently.
	They're going to start closing the schools as much as they can.
	I don't know.
	How many new holidays are added?
	I don't know what's wrong.
	Well, I know that we remove Martin Luther King Day as an official holiday, or it's been on, it's been off, it goes, it comes back.
	It depends on where you are.
	Right.
	I have no idea.
	I just thought it was an interesting contrast to the Denmark use of those photos.
	Totally agree.
	Never happened in New York.
	Okay, I got one more screwy thing.
	I've been developing this thesis, and you know it, about different kinds of milieu, which are not necessarily just who you hang out with.
	Actually, it's about who you hang out with generally, but it also starts to incorporate the way you walk.
	The way you talk and all kinds of other little nuances, the way you gesture, for example.
	And the Obama administration has some distinctive milieu characteristics.
	Well, folks, fact of the matter...
	Just in language, there's tons.
	Well, that's in usage.
	But I'm talking about more with cadence.
	The way people talk.
	I do have an example.
	I don't have it on this show, but I have it with the twerp, Susan Rice, and other people that work in the State Department that also sound like her.
	They hit the last words a certain way.
	Now, you know, right in your brain, you have Josh Earnest's Cadence is very ingrained.
	You know what he sounds like when he talks?
	Yes, I do.
	Okay, well, I have a clip of this guy, Tony Blinken, who is Assistant Secretary of State.
	I guess he's on par with Newland, Noodleman, working for Kerry.
	Listen to this guy and tell me that this is not a distinctive...
	Obama, State Department cadence, he sounds exactly like Josh Earnest.
	Davis spoke to Deputy Secretary of State Tony Blinken this week about that deal and a few other big foreign policy issues as well.
	Iran, and that remains a big if.
	We're not there yet.
	At that point, when the details emerge, people will have to look at it very carefully.
	And if they disagree with it, they'll have to say what the alternative is, because it's not enough to say, this is a good deal, this is a bad deal.
	If you don't like it, you've got to propose something that would work better.
	And at this point, the diplomatic path to trying to get Iran not to pursue a nuclear weapon and not to be able to produce the material for a weapon remains the most effective way to do it if we can get the agreement we're trying to reach.
	Obama believes strongly in the freedom of religion.
	You're totally right.
	Nailed it.
	I was taken aback by this guy.
	In fact, I was going to ask Adam and just run him and say who does he sound like.
	But I just think making the point is making the point.
	And the point is that there's a milieu that is apparent within the administration that creates people that sound like this.
	Nobody sounds like this naturally.
	No.
	Or maybe they get hired there.
	Oh, I like your voice.
	You're hired.
	I don't know.
	I'm thinking there's really two kinds of voices in the Obama administration milieu.
	And one is this one, which is the...
	But let me explain to you what the president does and how, of course, we always want to do exactly the right thing for the American people.
	It's faster than that.
	It's a little faster than I'm working on.
	For the American people, we always want to do exactly what the president can do his best.
	He has a phone.
	He has a pen.
	And as we've said many times, right here from this podium, Is that anywhere near?
	It's a little better.
	I have to work on it.
	You could probably get it.
	I could probably get it.
	They punch up odd words.
	Now, Susan Rice punches up the last word in a phrase in a very awkward way.
	It's not like she's over the top with it, but there was a guy who used to be on PBS called Burt Wolf who talked...
	When he was...
	Let me see if I can find something to read.
	Let's just play with Susan Rice.
	Let's see what she sounds like.
	I got it here.
	She served the United States with honor and distinction.
	And we'll have the opportunity eventually to learn what has transpired in the past years.
	But what's most important now...
	What's most important now...
	I will have the chance to...
	It's more rollercoaster-y.
	She punches up the...
	In most of her explanations, she punches up the last word in a way that...
	I'm going to do the exaggerated version of Burt Wolf.
	By reading something.
	The discussion that Hillary Clinton used a non-governmental email address while she was Secretary of State originally came courtesy of...
	Yeah, exactly.
	Punching of the important words.
	Which is a trick.
	It's a trick.
	It is a trick.
	And that whole, of course, that email thing is still ongoing.
	We call that so perfectly, John.
	I have not seen a single mainstream story about the Clinton Global Initiative money Coming from Saudi Arabia and from the Middle East.
	And now even people who listen to this show are saying, well, here's more about the email server.
	It's like, it's a non-story.
	We don't care.
	Except for the fact that Associated Press made a big deal out of something they have no facts on, as far as I can tell, that she ran the server from her house.
	That's an interesting discussion to have.
	I don't think she had it.
	But it's covering up all the other stuff, people.
	Ugh.
	And then we have this, just speaking of the Clintons briefly, or you want to go on with more Caden stuff?
	No, but I'm just saying, I like to bring it in once in a while, it's just a little boring at the end of the day, but I want to make it clear that I'm, for some reason, preoccupied with this.
	And, of course, it brings us back to Glenn Greenwald, in his case, and Rand Paul, with the exact same cadence, and what does that mean?
	Are they in a milieu of some sort?
	I don't know.
	I have to find a couple more examples of that cadence, because it's very distinctive.
	Very distinctive.
	And they both have the exact same cadence.
	You know what?
	Why don't we do a couple of side-by-side clips and we can come up with these cadence groups and we should start naming them and we should identify Interesting
	news about...
	Haiti in regards to Hillary and Bill.
	I don't know if you caught this.
	Hillary Rodham Clinton's brother, Tony Rodham, sat on the board of a self-described mining company that in 2012 received one of only two gold exploitation permits from the Haitian government, the first issued in over 50 years.
	The tiny North Carolina company, DCS Mining, also included on its board Bill Clinton's co-chair of the Interim Haiti Recovery Commission, Ah, there you go.
	New book.
	New book.
	Yeah, they're lining up to take shots at Hillary.
	I like this, though, because I remember that we...
	I didn't know that her brother was involved, but I do recall us looking at the rights that were given to just two outfits.
	Yeah, yeah.
	No scam there.
	No.
	Huh.
	Okay.
	How about this one?
	FBI informant clip.
	This is a guy who was...
	This is one of the crazy clips that you'd hear on Democracy Now!
	that is funny.
	And I'm not sure what the point of it is, but it's just hilarious.
	A former FBI informant who posed as a Muslim convert to infiltrate mosques in California has said the FBI instructed him to have sex with Muslim women if it would help him gather information.
	Craig Montel has admitted collecting phone numbers and other personal information about Muslims in the Los Angeles area.
	Even planting a recording device in the local Muslim Student Union.
	He told HuffPost Live his FBI handlers encouraged him to date Muslim women.
	There were some times that within the dates it would get intimate.
	So I would ask my FBI handlers what I should do for them.
	They instructed me if I was getting good intel to allow it to go into sexual relations.
	When he was working as an informant, Montel's extreme talk of violence and jihad alarmed his targets in the Muslim community, who ultimately reported him to the FBI and took out a restraining order against him.
	Now, this sounds like a classic FBI deal, right?
	Yeah.
	You bring a guy in, you make him a troublemaker.
	He's trying to, hey, let's have a jihad!
	Right.
	Sign up!
	I got the sign-up sheet right here, everybody.
	And he's trying to entrap people.
	Yeah.
	They find him annoying, and they report him to the FBI, and they take out a restraining order to keep him out of the mosque.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, good work.
	Well, the intelligence agencies are obviously in flux.
	I wish he had done this in a speech or something.
	Brennan released a statement more than anything about the rejiggering of the CIA. Oh, man.
	What do you have here?
	He said, I know there are seams right now.
	But what we've tried to do with the mission centers is cover the entire universe, regionally and functionally.
	And so something that's going on in the world falls into one of those buckets.
	That sounds like he's vying for the NSA's lunch with that.
	No, that's what it said.
	When I saw this, I felt the same way.
	It's going to be a clone of the NSA. Well, they're creating 10...
	Mission centers, and I don't know if this is, this must be worldwide, I presume.
	Again, this is, I don't, again, maybe they weren't allowed to tape him or anything, or maybe I just wasn't, I certainly wasn't able to find it.
	I love listening to him say things, although he's bordering on Joe Biden boredom.
	He'll be establishing a new Directorate of Digital Innovation.
	To lead the agency's efforts to track and take advantage of advances in cyber technology.
	This is where we can get in on the ground floor, I believe.
	Well, we need a good idea.
	We need a plan.
	We need a product idea or a methodology or something that's catchy enough that we could be on the ground floor.
	Right.
	I don't know if we have the skill to dream something up.
	Well, we have to come up with something.
	Yeah.
	25 donations, I would think.
	How about, you know, because I don't know about the book you plugged earlier.
	I'm not so sure.
	Oh, man.
	Alrighty.
	Here's another.
	I'm now suspicious.
	This is a very short item.
	Another derailment.
	Ah, yes.
	This is three or four in a row.
	This will be three.
	Maybe four.
	There's a couple that didn't talk.
	They didn't blow up, I think.
	But I think somebody's doing this on purpose.
	You'd almost think it.
	The percentage of likelihood of three derailments, and was it all three back and crewed?
	Yeah, this one, play it.
	Another derailment.
	Yes, hold on a second.
	This is another derailment.
	A train carrying crude oil from the Bakken region of North Dakota has derailed in northern Illinois, causing a massive fire.
	The incident follows two previous oil derailments last month, which happened within days of each other in Ontario, Canada, and in West Virginia.
	You can go to our website for discussion...
	Now, this one, they say that the firemen couldn't do anything and they just abandoned it and let it burn out.
	Which is bullcrap because they're not trained to deal with petroleum fires.
	They're a specialty.
	I actually am trained in that regard.
	As a firefighter?
	Yeah.
	What?
	Really?
	I know.
	It's crazy.
	No, no, no.
	Stop!
	Yeah?
	I've known you for a number of years.
	This time you surprise me.
	You've been trained in the skill of fighting a carbon-based fire on a train.
	An oil fire.
	Or gasoline.
	Or just in any oil fire.
	Are you like Red Adair?
	No, I don't have those skills.
	That's explosives.
	That actually works well, too.
	You work at an oil refinery, which I did.
	They give you...
	I don't know if it's optional or not, but I'm not passing it up.
	Oil fighting oil refinery fires training.
	And it's fascinating.
	But it's not something you would normally think of to do it right.
	No.
	One of the things you have to do, and you get to play all these different roles, is you have to be, you go in pretty far with your hose.
	But you have two or three guys trained on you.
	You sure don't just do the trip?
	It's a whole hose.
	They're blasting you while you're going in.
	Alright, let me get this straight.
	So you take your hose, and you roll that sucker as far as you can get it, and then some guy, some dude behind you is blasting you with his hose.
	A couple of guys.
	Oh!
	It gets better.
	Yeah, so you're getting blasted so you can stay cool because it's really hot.
	You're talking about an oil fire.
	Oh, okay.
	And so you go in and they're blasting you and you go in and then you can put the fire out because you're right on it and you have to know which direction to blow it.
	You actually always start...
	This is just a generalized fire tip for people who use it.
	In case you have an oil fire, people...
	Here's a tip.
	If you have any fire at all, if it's like, say, a kitchen fire, you always want to sweep it away from yourself.
	So you always hit the stuff in front of you, right in front of you, and then you push it until you extinguish it.
	Because if you just start dropping it in the middle or just going aimlessly, it just keeps reigniting with any sort of oil fire, which would include a frying pan that fell on the floor on it.
	Are you making this up now, or you really had this training?
	No, that's true.
	If you talk to anyone who's a firefighter, they'll tell you, you obviously sweep away.
	Right.
	Because if you don't, you just never get the damn thing out.
	It's just the way you do it.
	But now, did you train on actual fires for this?
	Yes!
	Wow.
	He lit this thing up.
	Wow.
	Did you have protective gear on?
	You're going in with your hose?
	Yeah, you got a Scott Air Pack.
	This is not a non-trivial.
	This is a normal fire guy.
	Most fire guys, I think, have Scott Air Packs.
	So you put on some protective gear, then you throw on a Scott Air Pack, which you throw over your head.
	I'm sorry, a Scott Air Pack.
	Oh yeah, Scott Air Pack.
	That's what they're called.
	And a Scott Air Pack is a breathing apparatus with a couple oxygen tanks.
	Oh, okay, yeah.
	That's the real deal.
	You've got the big tank and you've got the helmet with the breathing apparatus.
	You've got all that stuff.
	And you can get them on eBay.
	You put this thing on and then you get your hose and you go in.
	It's fantastic.
	It's an $800 item, that thing.
	That's not a cheap little deal we got there.
	Oh, you can pick up some second-hand ones that look a little scorched.
	It's $400.
	Wow.
	John, you never cease to amaze me.
	Astonishing.
	I amaze myself.
	Yeah, no, that was pretty good.
	I have only one thing to say.
	Go fuck yourself.
	I'm sorry.
	I get sent stuff in.
	I get sent stuff in during the show.
	I thought I'd try it.
	I didn't know it was going to be...
	I didn't mean that towards you.
	I thought it was going to be something else.
	Yeah, well, it didn't work out.
	No, it did not work out.
	But yes, so they fire regular fire guys.
	I guess they don't know the tricks, which is, you know, there's a couple of tricks involved.
	I mean, if you even know, then you'd think that they'd know.
	Yeah, you would.
	But they said, no, screw this thing, Roddy.
	They let it burn out.
	Like, wow, okay.
	Fantastic.
	It was too hot.
	It could have been like the volunteer fire guys.
	They don't know what, you know, they just can hold something down.
	Well, what I understand is that these tanker cars on the train, that they had the special reinforced tanks on them.
	Well, there's a long story behind those tanks, which were approved.
	They're not still the right tanks for that crap.
	Okay, okay.
	I mean, that's the way I understand it.
	That long report that I only clipped a little bit of before, like 10 shows ago.
	By the way, I've always said this, too.
	Although I've talked to my local fire department about this, I think everyone in the family should have fire training with extinguishers so they know how to use them right.
	Local fire departments should provide this for anyone who wants it.
	I remember growing up when we had that.
	And I believe there were PSAs on television, public service announcements, that actually would, maybe it was Fire Prevention Month or something like that, and you would have a family meeting, and you'd discuss your way out, you'd discuss what happened, how you would wake everybody up, if you could, if you couldn't.
	And I remember we had little fire extinguishers on every floor, every room, because we lived in, most Americans live in fire traps.
	In Austin, they're building so many new houses and condos.
	It's just wood.
	This is a very strange phenomenon for someone who comes from Europe, where we build stuff mainly out of stone and brick.
	And in America, it's wood and wool.
	Well, we can't do anything but wood in California.
	Because?
	Earthquakes.
	Ah.
	Right, you got a point there.
	But in Austin, we don't have earthquakes.
	It's just cheap.
	No, you don't.
	It's just cheap shit.
	It's cheap.
	Yeah, I would expect to see more brick and stone houses in Texas.
	Well, there's a lot of faux stone, like fake slate.
	The architecture is not so great in Texas.
	Um...
	Yeah, and also, this is also...
	There's a lot of big mansions in Texas which are annoying.
	Yeah, particularly out up north, north from Austin, you've got Steiner Ranch.
	Yeah, it's massive, massive collections with a big fence around it, a big gate, so we can keep them in, the people from California who come.
	Keep them in.
	Yeah.
	Hmm.
	Okay, I have a clip here because we talk about this once in a while and I've made certain statements about How much you could...
	How cheap you could actually...
	How oil could be like 20 bucks a barrel, which is historically...
	It hovers around 25, which is still way down from where it is.
	And how Saudi Arabia could keep doing it, keep pumping oil and making money.
	This actually kind of verifies a little of this is Saudi oil production on Russia today, where they're claiming in this clip that the reason that the Saudis are continuing to pump is not what my assertion was based on some other clips, which is that Saudi Arabia didn't want to lose where they're claiming in this clip that the reason that the Saudis are continuing to pump is not what my So they're just going to keep pumping no matter what.
	The Russians are trying to goad somebody into thinking that it's because they hate us in Saudi Arabia.
	Really?
	And they're just doing it to screw our frackers.
	The Saudi Arabian Minister of Petroleum and Mineral Resources who said that they could still function normally in their economy for up to eight years even if oil was at $20 per barrel.
	Well that's a question to understand whether it's profitable for them to bring the oil out of the ground or balance their budget.
	The two are different factors.
	Some say that the huge Gowar oil fields in the east of Saudi Arabia can be profitable at $10 a barrel.
	If they cut their production and oil prices rise even further, those jobs in the United States are just going to flow back to the tight oil production.
	So in these new conditions, would it make sense for Saudi Arabia to actually keep the oil prices where they are right now?
	If they can keep it at $60 a barrel, they can take offline a lot of the tight oil production in the United States.
	Okay.
	Quite clipped out the way I'd hoped.
	But they say, you know, I think shale oil is $70 it needs to be at least.
	I overheard a conversation on the way over on the plane, a guy from Dow Chemical who was on his way to Saudi Arabia, and apparently it's almost like some hedge or diversification thing.
	They're going really big in chemical manufacturing, storage, transport, which I guess kind of makes sense, isn't it?
	It's just another, in many cases, I guess with Dow, it's liquid stuff, isn't it?
	Yeah.
	So you can just use similar infrastructure or people who know how to operate?
	Is that...
	They're always sending guys over there.
	Does Dow do petrochemicals?
	I don't know if they're going to build any chemical facilities, but most of the...
	Usually around a refinery, like here in the Bay Area, we have a couple, three, four of them.
	We have four refineries.
	And usually nearby, there's a...
	Right next to the refinery, there's, like, one of them, the Standard Oil Refinery, is Union Carbide.
	I don't know who owns it now, but it was Union Carbide for a while.
	And that was using certain flows from the refinery because it's a petrochemicals or like a big moneymaker.
	And that's right.
	They made petrochemicals.
	And then there was a fertilizer plant nearby and they made fertilizer because you make a lot of from oil, you get fertilizer.
	And of course, yep.
	And then there was another third plant that was making fungicide that was illegal to use in the United States, but it was one of the most popular fungicides I've ever seen.
	I can't remember the Difolitan, I think was the name, that they were manufacturing, stinks, manufacturing there.
	And so, you know, oil refiners just don't make gasoline and motor oil.
	They make all these other things.
	It's very paint.
	It comes from oil.
	But the Difolitan stuff, I used to always go there and inspect the place and always get some.
	The stuff is dynamite.
	Because?
	You know one of the things I grabbed once and I left the house at one time?
	Today, in today's world, I would have been arrested.
	Uh-huh.
	So I'm over at their fertilizer plant, and I said, I want to get some fertilizer.
	A bag of fertilizer.
	Do you have any hair bleach?
	Any peroxides?
	The guy says, no, we'll just give you a bag.
	And it was 1600 or something.
	It was a giant 100-pound bag of pure ammonium nitrate.
	Ha ha!
	I mean, this is illegal to even have a bag of this stuff.
	So I had a whole bag of it.
	And what the idea was is that this stuff is so powerful as a fertilizer.
	Not to mention, in fact, you could mix it with things and they'd blow up.
	Yeah, like peroxide.
	Brock said it'd be one of them.
	So you take a handful of this stuff and you find some, like a big public thing.
	Isn't this the stuff that blew up that whole Texas town?
	Isn't that the same stuff you had?
	And you just dribble it around and you can spell stuff.
	Oh, nice.
	On giant lawns.
	Nice.
	Nowadays, I'd spell read or listen to No Agenda or noagendashow.com.
	Amen.
	Fist bump.
	Emoji con.
	Sorry.
	And you'd spell stuff out and then it would just go nuts.
	It would turn bright green and grow like a foot.
	You know what we used to do when we lived south of Amsterdam on the farm?
	It's a form of vandalism, by the way.
	I've apologized for this.
	We would take the ammonium, just fertilizer.
	I don't know what it was.
	I knew it was fertilizer.
	And then we'd take sugar.
	And I think we then just put it in a solution.
	We wet it down in a solution of water, I believe, if I remember correctly.
	And then we'd put a piece of paper in it, each individual piece of paper, and then let them dry.
	And then you could fold the paper into four, and you had little four quarters.
	And then you could go.
	I went to school.
	My God, the shit we used to do, man.
	I would have been in juvie.
	We went to school and then you just light it and it was like a magician's flash paper.
	Yeah, it was like flash paper.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It was cool.
	Yeah, you can't do that anymore.
	No, no.
	You're a terrorist.
	If I had that 100-pound sack of ammonium nitrate, what eventually happened to the sack is the basement where I kept the sack of ammonium nitrate.
	I never used it really for much.
	I don't know why.
	Except for writing stuff on people's lawns.
	Yeah, but that got old fast.
	And I'd throw some of it in the backyard once in a while for the plants.
	But eventually the cellar flooded.
	And the ammonium nitrate turned into one giant...
	Ball of goo?
	Hard.
	The sack was hard as a rock.
	Because it got wet.
	But anyway, you can't even get that stuff anymore.
	Alrighty then.
	I think I'm done for now.
	All right.
	I have to go get low.
	Well, we're back on track.
	Late.
	Yeah, it is getting late, although the time difference, I think right now it is 7 euros and 43 cents.
	I'm very confused about everything going on in Europe.
	However, I will have things to report on Thursday.
	I'll be roaming around.
	I'm going to several different locations in the lowlands.
	Ask the people what they think.
	We'll ask them what they think, and I'll ask them what they're afraid of, and we'll bring that report to you on Thursday.
	Coming to you from Rotterdam here in the Lowlands.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where we're celebrating International Women's Day, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll be back on Thursday right here on No Agenda.
	Can somebody explain to me why the CIA is spying on American allies?
	Well, Ray, there were these things called dinosaurs, and when they died, they'd turn into oil somehow, and that's what your car uses for food.
	Thanks, Al.
	Al Jazeera.
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