Okay, we're taking, we're stopping the show and we're going to talk about this.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Thursday, February 5th, 2015 and time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 6, 9 or 3.
This is No Agenda.
Looking for kick-ass video editors in Jordan, and coming to you from the Crackpot condo in the capital of the Drone Star State, Austin, Texas.
FEMA Region 6 in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where, let's see, I have a paper jam in my printer.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.
Okay.
I thought I'd go with the ironic, anticlimactic introduction.
It's always a long-winded new one you just dreamed up.
It's always a winner.
Oh, man.
Well, you were right, John.
I have to say you were right.
All these years I've denied...
Climate change?
Decline.
No.
I am a neat freak.
Aha!
Yes.
Woo!
So, Virgos...
Let me explain.
Virgos are supposedly traditionally kind of OCD, very neat freaks.
And I've always said, no, I'm not.
Because I make messes and...
It's not anything to do with Virgo-ish.
Although most Virgos I've known...
It's supposed to be a Virgo trait.
Well, okay.
It doesn't matter.
So that's even better because you identified my neat freakishness without even coordinating that with the fact that I'm Virgo.
And I guess I didn't know until I stopped marrying my mother every single time.
Now I have to do all this myself?
Oh, man.
What?
It's really good.
You're a quality neat freaker?
It's really bad.
What do you mean it's bad?
I'm always like, oh, there's a spot.
Let me clean it up.
It's bad because it's so obsessive.
It's very obsessive.
Yeah, that's what I said.
Oh, man.
It's like, okay, the toilet roll.
It's almost all the way down.
I'll just replace it.
Over the top or underneath?
It's somewhere in the middle, but leaning towards over the top.
That's even possible.
However, this is good, and this kind of brings me to a topic that has been in my face ever since you brought it up.
The Dvorak Collective.
About me doing a Hot Pockets tour.
Oh, you mean with the...
Hot Pockets!
Did we talk about this on the show or this after the show?
No, this is on...
Well, the reason everyone's been emailing me about it is because we talked about it on the show.
Ah!
Yes.
About me getting an Airstream and driving around.
That'd be great.
Well...
And you being a neat freak, you could actually do this.
So this is...
You know, the problem is most people like myself would have.
We'd go on this thing and within a week the Airstream would be a mess.
And you'd have to be meeting people a lot, and many times you'd probably have a little coffee or something in the Airstream, and you'd humiliate yourself.
The guy would come in and go, oh man, this guy's like a slob.
Screw this show.
Yeah, but you would be like, wow.
And by the way, it would have to be Hot Pockets, the Tourette's Tour.
I think that would be better.
Shake in the USA. Yeah.
So, a lot of people, for some reason, and we have a Facebook group, an in-the-morning Facebook group, and there's a subreddit, and people are like, yeah, this is great.
I have no idea why they think this is so great for me.
Like, somehow, in my sorrow and my pain and wallowing, I'm supposed to go be alone on the road?
And another visit to Suicide Hill.
Are people romanticizing the heartbreak?
Is this how it works?
Yeah, I gotta go on the road.
I took the idea before you broke up.
And I think people would still respond positively because it's as if you're a type of person, a rambling man.
Rambling man.
Well, here's what I want to say about this.
I think it's a very good idea.
I think the time in my life that I could actually do this for an extended period of time, then go out and drive around, would be now in this year.
I agree with that.
However, at this very moment, considering the things I'm learning, like my neat freakishness, I need a little bit of a stable environment for a bit here.
No, no, no.
Yes, yes, yes.
Yes, yes, yes.
Full-mode responsibility.
No, no, no.
You've got to drive, you've got to buy gasoline, you've got to clean up the trailer, you've got to meet people, you've got to get out, you've got to...
No, no, no.
I'm not...
You have no idea.
This is...
I need to...
It should only take me a couple months to get my feet back on the ground.
It would take you longer than that to find a good Airstream.
Please, won't you?
Help me get my feet back on the ground.
Won't you please, please help me, help me, help me.
You can stop that at any time.
Ringo!
I'm thinking around June or July, but I have some shit stuff to wrap up here.
Like, you know, the closing down stuff.
Okay.
I didn't tell you to jump in a trailer tomorrow and take off like a maniac.
No.
But I do want people to really seriously...
I think it should not be an RV. I think it should be an Airstream that I drive along.
Yeah.
Yeah, you don't want to drive around in an RV. You get to Airstream, you park it in one of these places, and then you unhook it, and you go drive, and then you can go, you're on your own.
You can go drive around, you don't have to have a damn trailer or RV big thing clunk or you can't park.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Okay, good.
That's out of the way.
Okay.
And then Airstreams are, you know, they're recyclable.
You buy one, and you pretty much, it doesn't depreciate like the RVs and some of this other crap.
Yeah, that's true.
Well, it's a project.
We're working on it.
People can start thinking.
And there's a lot of push for Hot Pockets Europe, Hot Pockets Down Under.
So, stuff to think about.
But I just need a couple months just to...
Yeah, it's okay.
Okay, thank you.
Thank you for understanding.
Okay.
Well, my printer didn't work, so I can't print out the many clips I have for today.
Do you want to do something about it, or are you okay?
No, it's okay.
I'm going to every once in a while get up and try to unjam it.
Well, something really big happened, and it was so big that we need to talk about this right off the bat today.
This new ISIS ISIL IS video, which we'll just call that Burning Man.
Holy crap.
I got the original version of this video.
I'm sure people by now have at least heard about it.
Although many of you have not seen it.
This is probably the hardest one to find, although that is changing a little bit now.
Actually, here's...
It's very easy to find.
Fox has it posted.
I was going to say, Fox just posted this.
It was posted a couple of days ago, actually.
But they are the first, and so far as I know, the only ones.
No other Murdoch properties have posted this.
Here's actually the way Shep Smith, he described the entire video to us.
We're not going to show you the video, obviously.
It's 23 minutes plus that video, and it shows the terrorists burning a Jordanian military hero alive.
A hero.
I'm going to tell you about it.
All of it.
Every bit of it.
I watched it over the last hour.
Not because I wanted to.
I absolutely did not.
I watched it because I felt like those of you who want to know what's on it, But don't want to watch it or be subjected to some sort of gruesome descriptive adjectives.
Which is, of course, what we have identified is the media was so gung-ho to put...
You could put dead Palestinian children on television.
That's not a problem.
You can show dead kids lying on the beach.
That's not a problem.
You can show kids burning up.
You can show all of these things.
But when it comes to this video, which is such an important one, we can't show that to you.
If they were honest about it and said, we could show you the video, but it's so boring, and it's 22 minutes long, and where news stories only last about 60 seconds, makes it impossible.
Yes, it's boring, but the part of the video that is important is the burning.
And the whole setup and everything.
And I've spent a lot of time on this.
I sent this to a number of video professionals.
People who do a lot of video.
And unanimously, they all said, this is a very expensive production.
Multiple cameras.
Really, it had to be a modern day Hollywood budget.
And yes, bear with me.
I'm telling you, this was directed, this was well thought out ahead of time.
The consensus is, 97%, there is no one that anybody I know...
In the Middle East, who could create this the way it was made?
This is not their culture, this type of editing, this type of...
No, that I agree with.
I mean, you've seen Middle Eastern TV. They got the graphics and stuff, but it's a different flow.
Yeah, it's a total different cadence, everything.
This is a Western-made piece.
From what I've been able to deconstruct, this was probably actually made in Jordan.
The uniforms, which are so new of the so-called ISIS-ISIL executioners in the video, the creases are still in the uniforms.
Everything is just completely pristine.
You look at holsters, and these are the exact same uniforms that the Jordanian army uses.
The only thing that's different is instead of the Jordanian military patch on the arm, there's just a little small square of Velcro where the patch would be.
I didn't notice any of this.
And only, I'm going to, the last time I used this, only a neat freak would spot this stuff.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, it's true.
And I really looked very, I played it over and over and over again.
A couple things that, a couple other things.
So we have the open...
If you have not seen this video, the full 600 megabyte thing is going to be in the show notes, 693.noagendanos.com.
You can deconstruct it all you want.
We have our hero, our Jordanian pilot hero, walking towards his demise in this beautiful slow-mo...
This is so...
Over-dramatized is the correct description of it.
Because, of course, this is what you do when you know you're going to be killed.
You walk and you go, yeah, how you doing?
I'm ready to die.
Right, you don't try to make a run for it.
And then you have this cage, which has no bottom.
I mean, it's not like if I were on fire, I wouldn't try to, I don't know, lift the cage.
Which then we see demolished, which looks like the hokiest piece of crap with broken little tubes.
Yeah, this is where the thing, as far as I'm concerned, was sketchy.
First, the guy's on fire.
The whole cage is on fire.
They got kerosene everywhere, I guess.
Beautifully done.
This was almost, I felt...
It was a Hollywood movie style.
Quentin Tarantino style with the cross inside the cage with the big...
The dramatization of this long, this wick.
That was dumb.
It was like a Tarantino thing.
And it was very much like he may have done it.
And so the guy's burning to death, or he's dead, I guess, and they bring in a big calf loader.
Yeah.
Whatever they're called.
I don't know.
But whatever, they bring this...
Piece of road gear in there and dump a bunch of rubble on him and smash the cage.
And then they run him over.
That's the part that got me.
They run him over with his big piece of gear.
And it's really the big lies that are ones that are overlooked.
I mean, all these little details.
But the big lie is this is not how anyone would react normally if they're set on fire.
Particularly with this.
This cage is just ridiculous.
Now...
So there's two styles of video that we have seen in the past several months that we have been looking at.
We have the traditional beheading video, which doesn't really show beheading.
We got Jihadi John, green screen, orange jumpsuit.
And it has a level of production value, which is so easily debunkable with stills of heads on bodies, which is clearly poor work.
It's just a still, so it looks more like the head has been photoshopped on.
Onto the body, onto the back.
And then we have this style of video, which we saw earlier, but really didn't get any legs.
That was the one where it was, you know, deconstructed to be like a 12-hour shoot with, you know, all kinds of continuity issues, but where they supposedly shot these prisoners' execution style, which you also don't really see.
But I think that this was...
That there is a full-on production, and this is probably episode two, there may be two or three more that were produced in this style.
And it really doesn't even matter if anyone, if it was the real guy or not, if he burned it.
What was meant to happen is now taking place.
Game is now on.
Finally, we see the strategy.
Jordan is going to go take out Assad.
That's it.
That's what this was for.
That's the whole reason for this high-end production.
Can anybody...
I think the reason why news organizations don't want to show it is they know it's fake.
They don't want to be culpable for lying and contributing to this next thing that's going to happen.
They don't want to be a stooge.
Well, I don't know whether they're going to take out Assad.
That's a good idea.
The coincidence between the Jordanian king being in Washington the exact same day has been called by a lot of observers.
A lot of observers have pointed this out.
Well, let's listen to MSNBC, who was all in on this, of course.
And first we have the, let's see, this is the Armed Services Chair.
Mr.
Chairman, what we've seen is another element of the endgame of a cult of extreme violence and insanity, actually, from ISIS with yesterday's burning to death of the Jordanian pilot.
How would you propose to combat this element of violence, which is so extreme to be preposterous?
How would you propose to combat this?
Well, in the short term, I think there are two things we've got to do.
One is to support the Jordanians.
Our committee met with the king yesterday.
This is the coincidence.
He gave us kind of a laundry list of things he needs, like fuel and munitions and equipment.
And he expressed frustration that it takes so long for our bureaucracy to get something approved to get to him.
Now, this is very important.
This is important.
This is the chairman of the Armed Services Committee saying, you know, we have to expedite.
We've got to get him stuff and training.
We already have thousands of troops in Jordan, of course.
We fly from the air bases in Jordan.
Look at the map, see where Jordan is.
Kind of right there to go into Syria.
So that's a first and immediate step.
Secondly, I think we need to support...
Look for some kind of immediate measure, maybe even an executive order or something to get that going without legislation.
The king and President Assisi in Egypt, when they try to encourage other national leaders and Muslim clerics to reclaim the Muslim religion and to isolate these people who have distorted it so much and in a way when they try to encourage other national leaders and Muslim clerics to reclaim the Finally, we've got to accelerate our efforts in Syria and Iraq.
The best thing we can do is to show some victories here versus this cult, as you say, which is really still got the momentum, even though we've been bombing them from the air for several months.
This is so perfect now.
I'm even thinking...
They might have had two teams, as they were setting this up, just to, you know, competing teams for video, just whoever could produce something that, whoa, we have a caller.
Hello, you're caller 100 on Z100! What's the phrase that pays?
Um...
This is...
And of course, Jordan has always been in strife with Syria.
And Assad has always been quite worried because Jordan is the stooge, certainly for the United States, and we're right on the border there.
And we need someone else to do it.
We can't do it for a whole bunch of reasons that pertain to Russia, mainly.
We can't be seen as us doing it.
It has to be Jordan.
This is...
Now we have, this is kind of funny, just to show you how all-in everybody is.
This is Senator Joe Manchin from West Virginia, who was, he starts off kind of funny.
What?
This funny is the same clip I have.
Oh, really?
This one?
Let's see.
Let me just say to our prayers, I think, from all Americans, all West Virginians, for sure.
Do you have that one?
We want to, all the West Virginians.
I left that part out.
Sorry.
Send their prayers to Jordan.
Go out to the Jordanian family of that pilot and all Jordanians.
West Virginia don't care about that, trust me.
It is a horrific situation that we witnessed and basically have seen.
We were privileged to talk to King Abdullah yesterday before he left the Armed Services Committee.
Here we go.
And with that, I think our result should be to give them all of the equipment, military equipment that they need to do the job and get it to them as quickly as possible, break down the barriers and all the red tape.
And that's what we heard.
Let us engage in this fight.
We'll take this fight.
Not one time did I hear King Abdullah ask for ground troops.
But we need the expertise that we can to make sure that our support for them It has the efficiencies that it must have and have the expertise.
But with that being said, I think you're going to see today very quick movement from the Armed Services Committee and how we deal with getting equipment to them quicker that they're going to be needing.
You saw that a little bit when McCain, who's the Armed Services guy in the Senate, was grilling the new Secretary of Defense, who, by the way, seems to me to be a bit like a droopy dog bonehead.
I have that clip, too.
Yeah, he's asking about one thing or another.
But this theory of yours, which I'll put in the Red Book, by the way, which is that the Jordanians are going to attack Syria.
They're going to take out Assad.
I'm more specific about this.
Yeah, okay.
They're going to go in to supposedly get ISIS, but they're going to take out Assad somehow.
Yes.
We'll have to see how that evolves.
I think it's a good...
A good possibility.
I like this theory.
The only reason why I'm so...
Besides the obvious things we're hearing now from the Armed Services Committee, so much money went into this video.
No one wants to show it on television because they know.
They know.
They do not...
No one wants to...
After the fact, have to say, yeah, we kind of knew that was going on.
This is big, John.
Someone produced this shit.
People know about this.
This is not...
I can't believe that we're not seeing people on television deconstructing this, saying, oh my God, look at how well this is made.
No, this is what stupid people, particularly Americans, take as real.
They look at this and say, oh man, that looks real.
Because it's what they're used to.
This Hollywood is big.
This is big.
Yeah, I want to remind people to go back and watch Wag the Dog.
Oh, please.
And how much better is this than Wag the Dog?
Oh, come on.
This production is insane.
Oh, it's mostly graphics moving around.
Bullshit, John.
Bullshit.
This is not easy to...
The sound design alone...
Who said it was easy?
I didn't say it was easy.
To me, it looks corny, amateurish.
Really?
The burning sequence looks amateurish?
I'm not talking about the burning sequence.
I'm talking about the 20 minutes.
Who gives a shit about that?
Propaganda.
I don't care about that.
No one cares.
That is the unimportant bit.
The important bit is this highly produced burning sequence.
That's good shit!
If we had made that at Mevio, we'd be like, high-fiving!
The burning scene is quite good.
I'll give you that.
It's phenomenal.
But curiously, if you start looking at burning scenes from Hollywood, the classic, I was looking for one.
Very similar.
Yeah, where the guy, my favorite, used to be when Siskel and Ebert both had their, when they were both alive and did the show together, they used to have a segment of their movie reviews called Dog of the Week, and they had a little dog there with them called Sparky.
And the Dog of the Week was, generally speaking, a movie that came out with a guy on fire running through the street.
It was kind of a running thing.
And they would show a lot of these guys running, waving their arms and running around in the street, totally on fire.
Everything about them.
And there was elements of that, my memory of those scenes in this video, because it was...
If you see, there are real videos of people on fire.
Yeah.
And they're not like this.
So this is the part.
Better than those, than the real guy on fire.
But this is what I'm trying to say, is that whoever is doing this, whoever wants this push, which, as I said, I believe is to have Jordan be the fall guy to take.
Of course, it's going to be us.
We'll be training, advising, whatever.
Of course, it's going to Well, the Russians probably already know that, too.
They have to have a counterplay here.
Yeah, but this is for you, and this has to...
Well, I think there is something there.
But this is more for, you know, just for the general consensus so we can say, is them, because this is for the public.
In this video, somebody is so smart somewhere to say, you know what, if we really want to make this believable, we've got to do Hollywood.
That's what people believe.
And I guarantee you that people seeing this, if you just did one of those man-on-the-street things, they'd all go, that's real.
Because this is where we're at.
This is what we're used to.
By the way, Brian the Gay Crusader cracked me up.
He said this whole thing with his fake Hollywood sets for doing terrorism videos is almost lifted verbatim from a Max Headroom episode.
Ha!
Which was Series 1, Episode 5.
And I watched it.
Yeah.
The script is kind of what we're living through right now.
Interestingly.
Actually, Max Headroom should be on the movie, which I think is better than the TV show.
Oh, the TV show is horrible to watch.
Well, it's not horrible.
Yeah, it is.
I watched it again.
Well, I guess it is.
But whatever the case is, the movie I thought was fascinating, and they had the evil little kid hacker I thought was much better portrayed in the movie.
People should check that movie out.
It's short and kind of fun.
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Next day, the group blows up an entire city block, but only rival network Breakthrough Television has the coverage.
It's good.
It's interesting.
Um...
Here's McCain, also on MSNBC. MSNBC was all in.
This is all they were talking about.
There's no doubt about Jordan.
There's no doubt about there's a new king in Saudi Arabia.
No doubt.
You're going to see a much more active Saudi Arabia involvement, I hope.
But it still requires American leadership, and that's missing.
Ah, American leadership, of course.
We need to be the leadership, but we'll let these guys take the blame for anything that happens.
I find this to be one of the...
Most important things that's happened in this whole Syria conflagration.
Conflagration.
Yes.
You'll get it.
Yeah.
And I think we can just sit back and wait.
It's just going to happen.
This is it.
Well, they've got to get their ducks in a row first, which means we've got to get some money, some checks signed.
And I noticed this, now that you mention it, and I did have a lot of clips from MSNBC, but Andrea Mitchell had all-to-all coverage of this.
I can see this being all-in.
She, of course, is stooge.
Big stooge.
There was one, and I didn't clip any of these.
I mean, I had them clipped, but then I never edited them because they were just, it seemed a little dull.
But person after person after person kept going on and on, except McCain, kept going on and on about boots on the ground not happening.
In fact, the meme was this.
Oh, you know, these are the next-door neighbors of these countries.
Why do they want us to get involved?
We don't need feet on the ground because, yeah, if it was Mexico or Canada, it would be important to us, but that's what these people should be thinking.
It's their next-door neighbors that have all these problems.
They're the ones that should be at boots on the ground, and we can help them.
Exactly.
I heard that over and over.
Right, which fits in with the entire messaging.
It's so perfect.
And this will be the degrade and ultimately destroy.
It's going to take a while.
I agree.
Someone's going to throw up some kind of blockage, whatever.
But it sounds like the Armed Service Committee is ready to go.
We have to have another, at least one more, maybe two more outrageous.
We'd have a couple more videos.
Cool stuff.
Yeah, one at least two.
I was looking at...
Randy Carvin, what's his name?
The former NPR guy who now is at First Look.
You know, the tweeter guy.
Yeah, what about him?
Yeah, Carvin.
Yeah, so he now works for Pierre Drive My Car.
Oh, does he now?
Oh, that's great.
I'm glad that he got work.
And they do the Reportedly.
It's called Reportedly, the Reportedly team.
Reported.ly team.
So what he has is a bunch of people twittering around, and then they put that on a Medium blog or something.
And here's, I just thought, for a guy who is all in on, you know, tweeting, retweeting, everything that's done.
He's a tweetmeister.
Everything on social media is true.
So he said, he put a post up today, the slideshow begins, a trail of flame traveling across the dirt from right to left, like a scene from the movie with the bad guy, maybe the good guy, leaves a thin trail of gas, da-da-da-da.
The flames consume him, a waxy human wick melting, then going up in smoke.
There is no way in hell I'm going to share this footage with the public!
What the hell?
Why not?
He said that?
Yes, it's in his post.
This is verbatim.
There is no way in hell.
I'm going to share this footage with the public.
There is no consensus.
What makes him high and mighty?
He can see it, but we can't.
Here it comes.
There is no consensus on the role graphic imagery should play in journalism.
Really?
What?
He says there's no consensus.
All caps.
On the role graphic imagery should play in journalism.
For some, it is an absolute taboo.
For others, a necessary evil to expose the evil in others.
For me, I've usually come down on the latter side of the argument.
Wow.
Yeah.
Talk about arrogant.
Uh-huh.
Of course, this is all Rita Katz.
We know that she somehow isn't making this stuff.
Rita makes fire from the site intelligence group.
Um...
Yeah, we'll just have to wait and see.
Kirby actually had something funny before the...
I think this is...
Before all the Jordan stuff cranked up.
Kirby looking a little disheveled.
This is Rear Admiral Kirby, who's the spokeshole for the Pentagon.
And this guy, he just has funny little phrases that he uses, which I like.
Yeah, I have a whole series of phrases that I want to talk about later.
But you might be starting it off for me.
I'm going to try.
Ah, let's see.
Do we have him here?
Hold on.
Where's this?
How do you think the Pentagon, the United States and the coalition will respond to that killing and to the killing of other hostages?
We haven't made it, and I can only speak for the United States military, we haven't made it a point to respond directly to these killings, even when the American citizens were killed.
I don't think the military actually makes decisions.
I think they can execute decisions that are made, but okay.
What we have done, and we'll continue...
Maybe that's changed.
Maybe I'm behind.
...to do is...
Degrade and destroy their capabilities and continue to put them on the defensive, in which they still remain today.
So there's, I wouldn't, at least from an American military perspective, I wouldn't look at this as a, you know, it's not tit for tat.
Tit for tat!
There we go.
A good one from Rear Admiral Kirby.
Tit for tat.
Is that a military term?
Well, I think the Marines use it a lot.
Tit for tat.
Yeah, that's an old phrase.
Well, I got one, too, that's kind of interesting.
This is the clip.
You finally have your list printed out?
No, I've got it in front of me on the screen.
It's still printing.
Luckily, I kept all these on the one page.
If you've noticed, the little 38K, the little bitty clips.
It may have been triggered by this or not, but this is the long clip on the ISIS video editor, which is worth listening to because of what you already said.
But let's play that.
And at the very end, there's a curious usage.
Okay.
Technical sophistication as propagandists of these terrorists.
As you analyze this, how do you go about trying to authenticate these videos?
Well, look, we know that this came out from the particular source it came out from just because of the way it was released.
But, you know, one of the questions is who puts together these videos?
What did he just say, by the way?
I'm sorry?
The technical source in which it was released, and he just babbles about it.
This is what we're getting a lot of, by the way.
And that's the Sight Intelligence Group.
So this guy knows.
He already knows.
He knows, but if you notice the way he says it, he won't say it.
No.
Do you want to get killed?
This is big business.
You don't want to be running around saying, hey, by the way, Rita Katz does all this shit.
She's hiring people in Hollywood.
You don't want to say that.
That is a good way to get whacked.
I didn't say it either, by the way.
Who puts together these videos?
And I think the answer is you have to look at this from two different perspectives.
One is that the way that technology has evolved, even with a laptop computer these days, if you have the right software, if you have Final Cut Pro or similar packages, you don't have to be an entire news team to put together what looks to be Hollywood quality.
And, in fact, this is what this appears to be.
And it's got very sophisticated special effects in this video.
On the other hand, you know...
Yeah.
Hold on a second.
Yeah.
The only special effects would be the slow motion.
That's a little bit of special effects.
But to me, special effects is a little higher than slow motion.
Just saying special effects implies that it's special effects.
It's not a real burning.
Who is this guy?
I can't remember now.
She introduced him at the beginning.
He's one of the many CIA guys that come on these shows.
Interesting.
And I just have to take exception with what he's saying.
No.
Yeah, you can have the software, you can have After Effects and all that.
This was multiple cameras.
Someone knew what they were doing.
This is not just, I got Final Cut Pro, I could make a movie.
Uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh.
No.
This was a bigger production.
It's got very sophisticated special effects in this video.
On the other hand, you know, you do have to have some talent or some experience.
And one of the questions has been, you know, who exactly is behind the scenes doing this on behalf of the Islamic State?
Is this just some nobody who happens to have, you know, computer expertise or familiarity with this?
Or is this somebody who, you know, may have once worked in a newsroom?
May have once produced videos or created videos and has joined ISIS and is now using those skills to that regard.
Anyway, yeah, you get the picture.
I do.
But the thing about this was, he said at the very end, to that regard.
Yeah.
What kind of usage is this?
You're going to say, well, I don't know, I'm going to go to the thing to that regard.
Isn't that...
Is it what?
Tell me what it means.
What does it mean?
I'm going to try.
I'm going to give it a shot.
When someone says to that regard, in that form, in that spot, in what he's talking about, it sounds to me like he's just confirming that he already knew something and he's explaining it, trying not to let you know that he really already knew and therefore uses to that regard.
Yeah.
Something like that.
I think it's just more gobbledygook that we're getting from everybody in the government.
And I looked up the worst case scenario is Josh.
Ah, Josh Earnest?
Yo, God.
This guy is ill.
I can't watch him anymore.
He's painful.
Play this one.
This is a Josh-like, this is John-like effort.
This is somebody else, but this is another, this is the kind of usages that are getting on my nerves, and I want people to start identifying as they come out.
Play this John-like effort.
Countries in the Gulf whom they had hoped might be able to effort the release of this pilot.
What is that?
Yeah, that's it.
That's it?
They want to effort the release of the pilot.
What kind of sentence is that?
Let me hear that.
That's interesting.
Hold on a second.
I want to hear that again.
Effort the release?
The countries in the Gulf whom they had hoped might be able to effort the release of this pilot.
Turning everything into, you know, they're just turning words around.
The word effort as a noun and a verb.
It's like, why are you doing this?
To effort the release.
This is all government talk.
This is all, if you were in one of these agencies...
That's literally, that had to be something written on the prompter.
It's...
That is just written that way because CIA talks like that or whoever.
Yeah, no, somebody talks like that and they're writing the stuff.
That's the point.
Now, here's another interesting use.
This is Josh Earnest.
And this is the, he uses it.
I've never heard anyone use this.
And we have to actually do a little work and look it up and see how it's used, if it even makes sense.
Play Josh Comento.
Okay, hold on.
One other thing I want to also mention is I want to commend to your attention a statement from the president's top counterterrorism advisor.
Commend?
Commend to your attention.
I want to commend to your attention.
That's weird.
What kind of English is this?
I would say it could also be legalese.
They're getting real careful about how they speak.
That's what I would think.
To praise formally or officially.
He's using it as entrust someone or something, too.
I want to commend this to your attention.
I want to entrust you.
It's bullcrap.
He wants you to read something.
Instead of saying, I would like you to read this, he says, I'd like to commend to your attention.
Which is wink-wink, nudge-nudge, this is the truth?
No.
It's just wink-wink, nudge-nudge, I'm an idiot.
He says it again.
Try the second clip of him saying command.
I would certainly commend to your attention the statement from...
Man.
Okay.
I guess this is the same clip.
No, no, no.
It was different?
Yeah, command.
I want to command.
We'll do the two clips here.
The first one...
One other thing I want to also mention is I want to commend to your attention a statement from the president's top counterterrorism advisor.
Clip two?
I would certainly commend to your attention a statement from...
That is kind of a statement.
Certainly in the second clip.
So he uses...
Okay, he does that.
So now he does this one.
This is the next one.
Josh Disdain.
Now, how does this usage fit into the scheme of things?
Why do reporters put up with this?
And we're going to continue to disdain with them even in this very difficult, tragic time.
Did he just say disdain?
With them.
We're going to disdain with them.
Did he say disdain or disdain?
I think he said disdain.
Or disdain.
I don't know.
I mean, listen again.
Hold on a second.
This is...
Oh, man.
What are you doing?
This is crazy stuff.
We need to work on this.
And we're going to continue to disdain with them, even in this very difficult, tragic time.
Now, why doesn't somebody go, what the hell are you talking about?
They don't want to seem stupid.
I don't know.
Here's, let's go on with some of this crap.
I'm just looking up disdain.
I looked up this guy, by the way, just to say.
So he is, he's, most of these, like, Carney was a editor of the, of the publications.
Yeah, of the mainstream publications.
He knows how to, you know, he speaks English.
Yeah.
This guy is a political science grad from some university after going to what looked like it's actually a girl's school that was a private school and he got a political science degree and has worked in the government ever since.
He's never been a reporter or an editor or anything so he speaks like an idiot bureaucrat that doesn't have a good command of the English language.
And it's getting on my nerves.
That's probably one of the reasons you don't like listening to him.
Let's play Josh informed by experts.
Okay.
This is a process that's been informed by experts.
This is a process that's been informed by experts.
What does that mean?
Okay, this now removes any culpability from any person because the process was informed by experts, not the people creating the process.
No, the process is its own entity.
This is legalese, John.
They're getting ready and nobody wants to be holding the burning stick or whatever it is.
You're reading too much into this.
This guy is a moron.
That's the problem.
And he's using these words.
I've seen it.
I worked for the government.
I've seen these guys go on and on and on and say nothing and using this cop talk.
Cops speak like this.
You know, they have it like when they're testifying.
But even if you meet with them, they speak like this.
This is the way they talk all the time.
It's not like they turn it on and off, and this guy, I believe, talks like this all the time.
Here's another little annoyance that I really have always hated this.
And this, I haven't heard it for a while, although I think it was sneaking into Carney's language.
I think he may have quit because of this, because he starts to see himself speaking like this.
Play the Josh Put Forward.
Josh Put Forward.
She made reference to the fact that the Office of the Director of National Intelligence put forward a report today.
Did he submit a report?
No, he put it forward.
Did he take it on his desk and move it a little bit forward?
Is that what he did?
He put it forward?
Okay.
Now you're nitpicking.
You hate this guy.
I'm not nitpicking.
This is what we have to endure, this kind of thing.
He's not even saying anything.
This doesn't mean anything.
And the White House is going to turn into a bunch of bullshit artists.
Oh, wait a minute.
What am I thinking?
Okay, we can cancel this segment.
They already are bullshit artists.
In all your years on Mother Earth, have you ever seen such bullshit in the White House?
Actually, no.
No, right?
It's sad.
Especially with a Jared woman.
She was sitting right next to Obama as she's going on and about the health of her.
Oh, VJ-44?
VJ44. That's her Twitter handle.
Oh, God.
Yeah.
One other thing with Josh, we just want to play it.
I'm noticing that he has, there's a certain style of speech, which I'm going to document because I've got a couple of examples of it.
I call it like half up talking.
Mm-hmm.
You kind of, and everybody speaks this way.
Susan Power, Susan Rice speaks this way.
Samantha Power not so much, but Jared speaks this way.
And there's other people that have worked in the Oval Office amongst the staff there.
They speak this way.
We need to kill them.
Like this?
We need to kill them.
Okay.
That's strictly Fox.
All right.
So play the Josh EPA climate and uptalking.
The last word he says is uptalked, but it's a certain kind of Chicago uptalk.
It's the only way to describe it.
And I'm hearing it more and more and more, and I hope it doesn't affect the way people speak to each other, but it's terrible.
One more final topic.
The EPA weighed in with this assessment of the Keystone pipeline today, saying that it would indeed have effects on climate change.
Doesn't this basically show that the President's test on whether or not to approve Keystone will not be fulfilled?
Well, I did see the letter that the EPA put out today.
I'm not going to comment on this process, at least the substance of this process, until the State Department has concluded their broader review to determine whether or not this project going forward is in the national interest.
So, certainly the President has laid out his own clear criteria about how he believes the project should be evaluated, and as part of the process of collecting input from relevant agencies across the federal government, The EPA put out their own supplemental environmental impact study.
I've noticed this.
Study?
Yes.
I think this is whenever he or anyone else, for that matter, in a briefing is reading from the tabs, is reading from the documents, and they're trying to make it flow like they're just speaking, but they're kidding nobody.
I think that's where the half up-talking comes in.
Because they're really trying to read verbatim because it has to be.
That would explain it, but I've noticed this cadence from other people.
He's just doing it to annoy you.
Well, I'm getting annoyed.
Did we play the chart of path forward?
No, no, no.
I'll play that too.
Chart of path forward.
I don't think so.
We'll help chart a path forward.
That's a statement that's written by somebody.
We'll chart...
Yeah!
Yeah, I'm sure it is.
We'll chart a path forward.
What does that even mean?
We're going to get...
We're going to bring a map maker in?
Yeah, we're going to get a quill and some ink, and we're going to chart...
We're going to get a sextant, and we're going to chart our path forward right into Assad's living room.
Let me...
Are you done with Josh?
I'm just telling you, I'm on the lookout.
This guy's got to go.
He will.
Don't worry.
Back to McCain.
Of course, we had the hearings, the senatorial hearings for the confirmation of Ashton Carter.
As the replacement for Chuck Hagel.
Holy crap.
When he comes out, he looks a hangdog.
Yeah.
He looks like a bureaucrat loser.
Well, he's a shill.
He was there to do whatever he's told to do, which was the problem with Hagel, as Hagel was, you know, annoying.
But for himself a little bit.
And for people who were going to get killed.
He still had a hangdog look, too.
Well, he got beaten down into submission.
That's why.
He got beaten.
They said, look, you're resigning.
He's going to really kill you or something.
The guy, he's sad.
McCain and Ashton Carter.
I think the...
This is on the strategy for...
Right, this is the good clip.
ISIS, ISIL, IS advertising.
I think the strategy connects ends and means, and our ends with respect to ISIL needs to be its lasting defeat.
I say lasting because it's important that when they get defeated, they stay defeated.
And that is why it's important that we have those on the ground there who will ensure that they stay defeated once defeated.
It's different on the two sides of the border.
This guy is so funny.
He's charted the path forward.
He knows what's going on.
We need Jordanians to be there on the ground, but we're going to be advising.
We'll be advising.
It's one enemy, but it's two different contexts, Mr.
Chairman.
This is very important what he's saying here.
One enemy, two different contexts.
Now, Iraq...
We've got that covered.
We have that taken care of.
We're good to go.
The only other piece, he's going to say Syria, but he means Assad.
Just listen and think Assad.
Two different contexts.
Mr.
Chairman, in Iraq, the force that will keep them defeated is the Iraqi security forces.
Our strategy is to strengthen them and to make them that force.
On the Syrian side, not to take too long about it, we are trying to build the force that will Keep them defeated, and that's going to be a combination of moderate Syrian forces and regional forces.
Okay, let's just deconstruct that.
Moderate Syrian forces, which is just such a contradiction in war terms, and then regional forces, which is Jordanians.
Well, it doesn't sound like a strategy to me, but maybe we can flesh out your goals.
Did he say thanks, John?
No, I said thanks, John.
I said thanks, John.
I'm thanking Mr.
McCain.
We're on a first-name basis.
So this may not take very long.
I don't know.
It could take months and months, but I think depending on what happens in this Armed Services Committee and whatever power they have, what can a committee do?
Can a committee just say, let's do something now?
Can they make decisions like that?
No, they can't do anything.
They have these committees so that when the session of Congress meets and they're writing up a bill, the committee comes in and says, no, this is no good.
You can't do it this way.
Hmm.
They're like oversight.
It's like oversight of whatever they're investigating and the bill-making process.
So if the Armed Forces Committee says no to something like some funding, it just never gets anywhere.
It doesn't go anywhere.
It won't come out of committee.
A lot of these bills, when they write a bill, a lot of them go into the committee, so the committee talks about the bill, and then they can kill it or vote on it or whatever and send it back.
Well, for sure, if this doesn't do it, if this isn't enough, if they don't feel this is enough for some kind of additional action, because we already have thousands of troops, again, in Jordan.
It's about money.
Money has to be sent.
Money must be sent.
That's the bottom line.
That is, of course, also so that we can sell some stuff.
You know, military-industrial complex stuff.
Whoa, hello?
And these guys have threatened all the pilots.
Yeah, the pilots are like, oh!
That was the credit roll at the end.
I saw it.
But I don't want to fly anymore.
They're threatening me.
I don't think the pilots will react that way, but the countries may have to upgrade their equipment so they avoid getting shot down.
So upgrades are not cheap.
We need two things.
We need a no-fly zone.
We need a limited no-fly zone.
I think this is the next step.
United Nations Security Council.
This is how we did it with Libya.
This is how it works.
We get a no-fly zone.
Once we have the no-fly zone, then we're moving forward.
So this may be the strategy with this particular video to get the no-fly zone.
Well, the no-fly zone, if that actually happens, would indicate that it has to do with Syria more than anybody else.
You're right, because the ISIS people, I hate to remind everyone, have no airplanes.
And they can't fly one if they did.
They got no ships.
All they got is Toyotas.
Don't they have magical flying Toyotas?
Magical Toyotas.
Oh, which reminds me.
Just as a little intermezzo.
You remember the magical shape-shifting Jews?
Yeah, a tongue twister if ever there was.
Yes.
The magical shape-shifting Jews that are now apparently being blamed for the attacks in France?
We have listeners.
Yes.
Where?
We have listeners that, according to the listener, is a shape-shifting Jew.
Right.
Well, Secret Agent Paul, who is responsible for many a good song and jingle on this program, has once again proved to us why we are the best podcast in the universe.
roll up roll up for the magical shapeshifting june step right this way roll up roll up for the shapeshifting june roll up the magical shapeshifting june roll up it's an illustration the magical shapeshifting june All out.
the magical shape-shifting Jews I tell you, no other program anywhere, and probably no other podcast, would ever have that for you.
No, and that means dvorak.org slash NA, just a reminder.
Oh, man.
Oh, that's so good.
That is so good.
It is funny.
The best thing is, Jews who listen to our show love this whole shape-shifting Jew thing.
They think it's funny.
Yeah, well, they do, and they probably wish it were true.
They will probably want this clip.
Yeah, Sir Jono of the shape-shifting Jews, I'm telling you.
Yeah.
Anyway, so from that intermezzo, I would like to propose that...
I thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
Well, in the morning to you, Adam Curry.
And also, in the morning to all the ships at sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
In the morning to everybody in the chat room, noagendastream.com.
Good to see you all lined up, ready to go.
In the morning to our artists, who are always producing just fantastic work.
Martin J.J. came back.
Hard.
Hard.
With the artwork for episode 6.
Slamming it.
Slamming it.
Again, good art.
Some great stuff being made.
Noagendaartgenerator.com.
Really appreciate the work, obviously.
Thank you, Martin.
JJ, back on the docket.
Back on the stick.
You always wonder why, you know, when you get the spreadsheet, it's never at the top.
It's always down a few cells when it opens.
Well, interestingly, I opened the spreadsheet in the OS X preview app.
And?
I thought it was just a PDF viewer, but it can also view...
And understand how to open up.
Oh, you know, that thing uses a lot of stuff.
It's actually a pretty good product.
It's a great product.
It should have an equivalent for Windows machines.
And so it just opens, and I can't really do much.
No, I can't.
Yeah, I can't change cells or anything, but it's just like one page, and it starts at the top for me, so I don't have this issue.
Oh, well, okay, then you wouldn't know what I'm talking about.
No.
Let's see.
We have a few donors that came in big.
Ryan Benson in Tampa, Florida, $600.
He wants to thank you for the show and what you provide every week, twice.
This donation should make me a knight, and I wish to become knight of the Tesla coil, as I'm both fascinated by the man, Tesla, the technology, and much to your chagrin, his money comes from winnings.
Much to your chagrin.
Oh, chagrin.
This money comes from winnings on Tesla stock.
Okay.
All right.
That's fine.
That was actually a good investment for a while.
It comes and goes.
It goes down.
It goes up.
I'm good with that.
I only ask for job karma.
Job, job, job is a more important karma for Adam in his difficult time.
And a chef's choice of whatever jingles JCD wants.
This is not a good thing.
You gents are a singular light in the dark sea of manipulation and propaganda.
You're worthy of every penny and more.
My only regret is I'm not independently wealthy and able to put millions in your funds to keep you running as long as you want to.
If you put millions in my funds, I'd be quitting and running away to an island.
You're too much of a neat freak fanatic.
I'd be, yeah.
You'd be neat with the money.
You'd be a nice pile.
Just know that for me, there are probably thousands who rely on your intelligence and independence for their daily sanity.
We get a lot of checks, not just from the anonymous lesbians who I first noticed it from, that has a little note on the check that says sanity.
Really?
One today.
I think nuttings me.
Is that just something written on?
Yeah, it's written on.
They write sanity in the little note.
Oh, in the little memo part.
Yeah.
So what was this for?
And you write sanity.
Yeah.
Oh, when I was doing some therapy, I would write on the check all kinds of stuff like blowjobs, fun, you know, to see if anyone noticed it.
Yeah, with people I noticed.
Anyway, so much respect finally to Sir Ryan of the Tesla coil.
So he needs a couple of things.
And I think, what could I come up with?
Do you guys have anything you want to dream that we haven't played for a long time?
Let's play the self-esteem clip where there's no winning.
Oh, uh, that's, uh, tell a secret is, uh, is that.
Okay.
That's, uh, all right.
And I'll do, uh, I'll do a, uh, a dude named Ben.
A new one from Matthew Frost.
Dude named Ben.
And then we'll give him the jobs car.
Oh, there's no winning.
We don't like to foster a competitive atmosphere, but we laugh a lot.
Now everyone hug and share a secret.
Everyone's crazy about a dude named Ben.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
You've got karma.
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And next from Hilo, Hawaii, Sir Dennis Nutting.
I don't know.
He sent a note in.
He came up with $400 and he became baronet.
Nice.
And he says, hello again, my podcasting pals.
Adam, I am very sorry to hear of your troubles.
Hang in there.
We men of many wives feel your pain.
It looks like job commerce working for me.
Therefore, find it and close the check for $400.03.
Oh, I forgot to put the three cents.
No, it said $400.
Which takes me to double knighthood and whatever rank it entitles me to.
If I may have a name I'd like, of the Spam Sandwich Islands.
Isles.
Isles.
The Sir Dennis Nuttingham of the Spam Sandwich Isles.
I think three hours of show is not long enough.
I usually listen twice.
Nice.
Okay.
Alright, give him another karma and it will be...
Absolutely.
You've got karma.
Greg Davis in Austin, Texas.
33333.
Please wish me karma to get sales consulting work at Greg Davidson Consulting.
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And let Sir Gene know I have been de-douched, followed by a de-douching and kid...
He wants a de-douche, I guess, followed by...
Yeah, he wants a kid boom shakalaka.
And OMG, that was so amazing.
Okay.
Yeah, and I'll throw in a karma just because he deserves it.
You've been de-douche.
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There you go.
Nailed that.
Donok.
Hatton.
Donna.
Oh, Donna!
May New County Kildare, Ireland, 33333.
ITM gentlemen, this donation is long overdue as I intended to donate once I began my slave job at a future drone based online retailer a few months ago.
Hearing the generous donations coming from my Irish countrymen in recent episodes finally provided me the guilt sauce I needed to round out my shame sandwich and force me to donate.
However, I have paid a price for my sluggish pace thanks to the recent poor performance of the euro against the dollar.
Yes, you would have gotten a bang for your buck earlier.
Yep, yep, yep.
My salary in U.S. dollars has gone down 25% since I started work.
And to add to the karmic retribution, I now have to fork over more slave chits to make an equivalent donation.
The lesson is clear.
The chits.
No agenda karma works both ways.
Can I get some finishing this damn PhD karma?
And it's a real times three tastefully followed by an OMG. That's amazing.
There's a random number again.
It happens every single time.
It's real!
I'm sorry.
Yeah, okay.
Keep it good works, Jance.
You're helping all of us keep hold of a little sliver of sanity in this world.
Yeah.
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Jacobus Boersma...
Jacobus Boersma.
Yeah, that's a Dutch name, isn't it?
Yeah.
New York, 33333.
Long-time listener, first-time donator.
I really appreciate what you have been doing all these years and look forward to the next pipeline-like meta-analysis.
Keep going strong.
Adam, would like to hear you properly pronounce my name in Dutch.
Jacobus Boersma.
John, the American pronunciation is Jacobus Boersma.
Bingo.
You both.
Sounded the same to me.
Karma.
Yes, we'll take the karma.
Thank you very much.
You've got karma.
Thank you, Jacobus.
Paul J. Sinkowski in Winooski, Vermont.
33333.
Short note, ITM gentlemen, Sir Paul of Winooski responding to the douchebag check.
Perfect.
That is all.
Thank you.
Thank you, Sir Paul.
Douchebag check.
Anonymous in Odenton, Maryland, 250.
I have not lost interest in the show.
Please keep it going.
Anonymous is that guy, apparently.
That guy.
It's actually that guy.
Aaron Yoho in Morgantown, West Virginia.
$214 a year.
We have three, four, five of the double producership, associate producership.
Valentine's Day donations.
Great show so far in 2015.
Sorry I haven't donated recently.
Got laid off last year.
Now running my own business, healthcarelitigation.com.
HealthcareLitigation.com.
I've been tough.
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I couldn't pass up the double producership.
Please give me some techno twit dude name Ben SEO optimization Twitter karma in hopes that I can be successful enough to hit knighthood this year.
And his thing is, his Twitter handle is HLS underline experts.
Don't block me, bro.
I didn't actually interact directly with people in the IT arena.
Somebody whose name was...
Gives us nuts.
His first name was Ben.
All right.
You and the twin.
A dude named Ben.
You've got karma.
There you go.
you Alright, onward.
Barbarinous Monica Lansing.
I actually missed a couple.
Hold on.
You did.
Jumped a page.
You missed...
I missed a bunch.
Start with Steve Edwards.
It's somewhere Ohio.
214.
It's not too much trouble.
I'd like to split the double credit with the love of my life, my best friend, and my wife, Nettie Edwards.
I'm not sure what she sees in me, but I'm glad she sticks with me.
Aw, so nice.
Yeah.
Brian Vaughn, 214 in San Carlos.
Do we have a note from him?
Let me check.
Because I didn't...
It could be.
I mean, there's a couple of notes.
How about your system?
You had the system where you have the pile of checks and it's all in order and that you get the top one?
No, no, no.
I'm saying, do we have an email I meant?
Oh, okay.
Sorry.
And no, we don't.
No, we don't.
All right.
For some reason.
And no, this didn't come in his check.
This came through PayPal.
Baroness Monica...
Baronetis.
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This donation is in honor of my sweetie Hal.
We'll be celebrating our 14th anniversary, February 19th.
So this is a combo Valentine anniversary donation.
Love karma to all.
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That is so sweet.
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She's my longtime suffering spouse and a recent listener to the No Agenda show.
We both love the deconstructions, which is absolutely superb, and now find ourselves laughing hysterically at the media reports as they roll in.
Instead of succumbing to the terror model of today's media, government, and leadership, we sit in a hot tub through...
Hot tub.
I'm sorry.
Laugh our asses off.
Hey, send pictures.
Send pictures.
Can't think of anybody I'd rather spend time with than my wife as we sit in the hot tub watching the snow come down and listening to the best podcast deconstruction, media deconstruction out there.
Please play her favorite Judge Jeanine clip, Kill Them, and Bomb Them, and follow it up with some house-selling karma for me as I'm trying to sell my Scottsdale, Arizona house.
88's to my lovely wife.
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It's funny because we make this show in the hot tub, actually.
We need to kill them.
We need to kill them.
Bomb them, bomb them, and bomb them again.
You've got karma now.
Yeah, we love Judge Jeanine.
She's not a warmonger.
No, no, no.
She's a peaceful woman.
She and McCain should get together.
All right, so now we got a note that came in on email.
I'll have to read.
From John Donovan.
Did I? Yeah, John Donovan in San Jose.
He's a baron of Silicon Valley.
Sir John, 214.
And there's another Valentine's Day double deal.
Double dip.
Should have seen this.
Sunday, Sunday.
It was great to see the...
What is he saying here?
Okay.
Oh.
All right.
Now, didn't we get him in on the last one?
He snuck in.
I don't know, John.
I don't remember.
I just produced the show.
Anyway, John, should have seen this and taken your advice.
Thanks for the reading.
And though, I still want to hear you do a Sunday, Sunday, Sunday announcement some Sunday, like Motorsports Radio Spots used to be.
It would be great to see the great response you guys had.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's been...
Well prepared.
Well done.
Well done.
He got credited the last time.
Okay.
He had another note.
All right.
So it's one of these days you have to do a Sunday, Sunday, Sunday thing.
Two more.
Francine Hardaway.
Hey, Dane Francine.
Dane Francine, yeah.
Half Moon Bay.
She's not in Half Moon Bay.
Still says that.
I asked her about this.
She says, no, it's PayPal.
You can't change her address.
$200.
I'm home from Gitmo Maharashi.
That's right.
She was in India.
India.
Yeah.
Where I listened avidly to the show for two weeks and caught Adam's transition.
I'm in transition.
His current equivalent is of hookers and blow.
$100?
That's not going to get me very far.
It's $200.
Well, you get the other half.
It's not like...
Ah, this is true.
Yeah.
Armando Guerra.
However, if we pooled our resources...
Armando!
I miss Armando.
This is the mailman from...
Yeah, Armando.
Where's his email?
He didn't get one.
I don't think he sent an email.
I think he just donated.
This is the mail carrier.
Yeah, your old buddy.
The old guy over in Travis Heights.
Of course he listens.
Is it Armando?
I'm putting it in the search.
Armando.
Armando Guerra.
Armando, he walks 10 hours a day.
He would like a much longer show, I'm sure.
These guys walk a lot.
Not all of them.
He does.
He's got all of them.
They have little cars they give them.
Anyway, that concludes our executive and associate executive producers for a show, whatever it is.
Six, nine, or three.
Six, nine, or three.
And I want to remind people that we do have another show coming up Sunday.
Sunday, Sunday, Sunday.
Do I have a quick PR mention here?
Dvorak.org slash NA. Now that, as well as the new No Agenda CD is out.
Oh, good.
This is Ramsey Kane.
So you can download MP3s in a zip archive, download the label, you can burn and distribute discs.
This new edition is titled...
What is it titled here?
This Week in Syria.
Oh, man.
So we really appreciate what Ramsey does.
It really helps.
And you can use these to, obviously, promote the program and help get us new producers and keep us going.
Everyone should send these discs to the Koch brothers.
Hey!
Oak Brothers!
Yeah, they should totally be hooking us up.
Indeed, please support us for the Sunday show.
And thank you all very much for your support to our execs and associate executive producers.
You need to propagate the formula.
My formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
You know, I find the relationship between the left wingers in this country and the Koch brothers rather, I'll use this word, abhorrent.
The Koch brothers began as anti-Vietnam War.
Mm-hmm.
Almost checklist libertarian.
And they started the Cato Institute and the Heritage.
A lot of these groups were started by them.
I don't know how active they are.
But it seems to me that their background should be pretty much right in line with the progressives.
But I think it's just because they're connected to a private corporation that has oil.
This is bad.
They're bad automatically.
And they make diapers.
Oh, God, no!
Which are made from oil.
Well, is that right?
Yeah, of course.
Plastic.
It's plastics.
Hello?
It's petroleum products.
That would be more correct.
Well, so there's three main things that I see going on.
Actually, we need to take a little break, John.
We do have a brand new month.
We have presidential proclamations.
I'm all ears.
There we go.
It is, by proclamation, it is American Heart Month.
Which, let's see, anything special?
Oh, of course, we had the National Wear Red Day on February 6th.
We missed that.
Oh, no!
Somehow, yeah, we missed that one.
Then it is, let's see.
Why would they have a Wear Red Day?
To commemorate and to recognize the heart.
It's stupid.
So, moral self-licensing.
Ah, by Wear Red, I'm done.
I don't have to help out.
Everybody feels good.
Change my Twitter icon.
Bingo.
Boom.
Shakalaka.
Good to go.
And hello, African-Americans.
You get to share your history with American Heart Month, which I think is a slam down.
African-American history should have its own month.
You don't have to share anything.
But there it is.
That was it?
No.
For generations, the story of American progress has been shaped by the inextinguishable beliefs that change is always possible and a brighter future lies ahead.
With tremendous strength and abiding resolve, our ancestors, some of who were brought to this land in chains, have woven their resilient dignity into the fabric of our nation and taught us that we are not trapped by the mistakes of history.
It was these truths that found expressionist foot soldiers and freedom riders sat in and stood up, marched and agitated for justice and equality.
This audacious movement gave birth to a new era of civil and voting rights, and slowly we renewed our commitment to an ideal at the heart of our founding.
No matter who you are, what you look like, how modest your beginnings or the circumstances of your birth, Kenya, you deserve every opportunity to achieve your God-given potential.
Ha!
We slipped God in there.
Good.
And then finally, if that wasn't enough, it is National Teen Dating Violence Awareness and Prevention Month!
I didn't know.
This is a new one.
National Teen Dating Violence Awareness and Prevention Month.
Wow.
There's a website, loveisrespect.org.
Yeah.
Or vetoviolence.cdc.gov.
All right, kids.
Your president says...
What's it got to do with the CDC? It's a health crisis.
Want to go to the public health?
Abuse.
Department of Health.
I don't know.
CDC sets the standard for what constitutes everything.
Shouldn't?
Yeah, well, it's how it works.
I don't make it up.
So it took me a little while to figure this one out.
It was very, very annoying.
It's been going on for a week or two, and all of a sudden it just exploded, this vaccine issue.
It started with the Disneyland thing.
That's where you saw it first.
We played clips weeks ago.
I got a clip here for you for this topic that you're going to discuss, which is Josh on measles.
We got Josh's back.
I would love to...
Let me lead into Josh on measles.
So I'm seeing story after story after story, and it turns into the story about anti-vaccine, and it turns into maybe making vaccines mandatory.
So it's exploding on the scene.
So I have an insider now.
I called Nurse Tracy, and she helped me figure it.
Because I'm like, is there some measles thing?
Is it really, really all that bad?
Is this an epidemic?
Are the people in the hospitals freaking out?
No.
Okay, let's hear Josh.
Let's speak to the president about this issue shortly before the briefing.
And he was clear that we don't need a new law.
We need people to exercise common sense.
The federal government does not need to establish a mandate for vaccines.
Just recommendations and advice to states and parents on the side.
What the president is saying, we shouldn't have to.
That the science is clear and it is irresponsible.
For people to not get their children vaccinated, not only because it puts their children at risk of getting the measles, it also puts at risk the other children in their community, if it's infants who are too young to get the vaccine, or children who have compromised immune systems, that they can't get the vaccine.
So people need to take responsibility, not just for their kids, but for the kids in their community.
Let me make one thing absolutely clear to everyone within the sound of my voice.
The politicians talking about vaccinations and measles do not give one shit about you or your kids.
Not an iota.
This is a full-scale attack.
It's interesting because I think this is something that backfired.
This is all about the 2016 election.
This is only to make Republicans look kooky.
Make them look super, super, super kooky.
Here's an example.
We start with CBS. Interesting to hear the debate in the Republican Party.
You had most top Republican lawmakers saying yesterday, and very clearly from Senator Rubio, that vaccines work.
They protect children.
There's no evidence that it causes autism.
And then you have Senator Rand Paul saying first on CNBC that he's seen it cause mental disorders in children, and then he has backtracked that statement.
What's going on in the party?
But you have the Wall Street Journal, which you write for now.
Really taking on Chris Christie's comments yesterday, today taking on Rand Paul, calling this the weird science of Misters Paul and Christie's and their lack of information.
Are you surprised, Peggy, that measles and vaccinations are part of the political conversation, number one?
And number two, does it damage anybody's chances?
Are you surprised?
So this could, first of all, Rand Paul, they kookified him.
He's out.
He can never run for president again.
This is going to haunt him.
I'm not going to disagree with this, but this is not my interpretation of what's going on.
Can I finish?
This has been politicized.
This is Ben Carson now.
This is CNN. Who's the only smart guy running?
...potential opponents coming out.
And it seems as though the Republican Party has a problem with science, that they're always pushing back against science.
And here, once again, Rand Paul, he says vaccines are good, but he's pushing back as if the government shouldn't be making all these decisions.
Chris Christie, sure, he corrected his statement as well as Rand Paul, but he was pushing back that it shouldn't be all about the government.
Do you think that is wise or is it pandering?
Well, first of all, I have to challenge the premise of your question, because in California, the majority of the cases are coming from Democratic strongholds.
So I'm not sure that I would characterize it as a problem with one party or the other.
But I would characterize it as a problem of lack of information about, you know, Martin's studies.
I'm not saying that Republicans are getting sick more.
I'm saying that they're talking about the sickness more in ways that may not be productive.
For example, what you say about, well, maybe people being introduced, that sounds like code for illegal immigration to me.
Is that a point you're trying to make?
Are you trying to make the measles situation into an immigration argument?
It's not code, and I'm not trying to make it into any particular argument.
I'm stating what the facts are.
The facts are that there are people in our country who have become lax in terms of their vigilance for getting their kids immunized, and we have people coming in who are not necessarily being properly screened.
This is where it got interesting.
I have one more clip, and then I want to hear your take on this.
Carson here, who is a medical professional, alludes to this being a California liberal type thing.
And then I caught this Don Lemon with Frank Bruni, who writes for the New York Times.
And this is why I don't understand who set this up or what opportunists came in to take over this and elevate this to make...
I think so far it's making the Republicans look loony, but really, if you listen to Lemon and Bruni, who are totally on the left side, they'll say that it's the natural people, i.e.
Berkeley.
Berkeley-type folk.
You write about this in an op-ed.
It's called The Vaccine Lunacy, okay?
You said, but what's in play is more than one affliction, right?
One affliction's resurgence.
The size and the sway of the anti-vaccine movement reflect a chilling disregard for science, or at least a pick-and-choose cafeteria approach to it.
That's also evident, for example, in many Americans' refusal to recognize climate change.
You...
You think that these are the sort of natural people who are promoting this, and really people of privilege who are promoting this?
Well, yeah, you mentioned those issues.
Interestingly, I think a lot of the anti-vaccine people probably would hate to hear themselves lumped in with the climate change deniers.
But they're doing the same thing from different places on the political spectrum.
They're basically saying, when my gut...
Or when what I want to believe is different from science, I'm going to go with my gut and what I want to believe over science.
And I think it happens across the spectrum of issues.
I think it's a problem.
Why are we seeing so many parents, especially parents, when you think of the natural crowd, wouldn't you think that these are more learned people?
Maybe I'm wrong.
Learn it.
Some of them are, yeah, but I mean, I think learn it is a term that can work in a lot of ways.
They may be practical of a lot of information.
They may not be that bright about the way they process it, but you use the phrase all-natural, and a lot of these people are the all-natural crowd.
If they really want to live all-natural, are they getting dentistry for their kids?
Are they getting orthodontia?
I mean, all-natural, when we lived all-natural, you go back far enough, we were dying at 30 and 40.
I don't think we really want to live all-natural.
Well, that's good.
Well, here's what's going on the way I see it.
In fact, I get the biggest kick out of these local stores because all our news channels have, oh, a measles case is found in Marin County.
I had a clip actually a couple of shows ago for this because my comment about that is that when I was a kid, they didn't have a measles vaccine.
Everybody got the measles and it wasn't a news story.
Right.
John got the measles.
So they bring up these measles.
They make a mountain out of a molehill.
Your friend Tracy says the same thing.
It stays in the news.
It's focused on measles.
And then it gets picked up by the political stations, which have to make everything political.
They blame it on the Republicans.
The Republicans stupidly get involved.
And that keeps the whole thing in the news.
Since we're talking about vaccines and we're talking about science and all the rest of it, One little fact is left out of all this as it boils and boils, and the Republicans are now involved, and now there was backtracking.
That's bullcrap.
That just happened by accident.
This was a concerted effort by the pharmaceutical companies as a distraction of the week, because they're the ones with the money that can promote these kinds of things, and make all of a sudden measles a big story, and let it do its own thing, which it's done, and you...
On the political side of it, to distract everyone from the simple fact that the flu vaccine this year does not work at all.
There it is, ladies and gentlemen.
There it is.
No, it does not work.
And nobody mentions that during this discussion, if you haven't noticed.
So Nurse Tracy, who works with dying kids, it's a fun job.
When she started to work here at this hospital, she had to get a booster for measles because it had been so long that the effectiveness wears off.
She says she'd been on all kinds of stuff.
Didn't catch any measles.
She's around sick people, sick kids, with measles, with everything.
Didn't catch any measles.
The insiders in the medical field are very skeptical about this, and I think you're right.
I think that it was a distraction.
I looked at another angle, two other angles, of course.
There was a lot of talk about mandatory, mandatory vaccinations, making it mandatory, which is a very...
Right, and if you listen to Josh Earnest, he talks about that, and he said they don't want to do that, and I think they don't want to do it because it would really cause a backlash.
Big backlash.
Do we have that clip?
That's the clip we play when we play in there.
We got it.
Let me see.
The other thing, for the politicization of it, August will be National Immunization Awareness Month, which will be perfect.
That will really be leading up to the elections.
It could make everybody seem...
Is it going to be in August?
Yeah.
Well, the elections are still a year after that.
Yeah, but it...
I don't know what they're going to do.
I mean, this thing, I think it works.
To make it sound as though Republicans are anti-science and they're a bunch of old toads sitting around.
I don't believe this is true.
Steam engines are good enough.
But I think Rand Paul, he got screwed on this one.
Somebody screwed him.
Rand Paul is too casual.
And by the way, he's got screwed anyway.
He got screwed with his appearance.
He is not a good look.
He is not a presidential looking guy.
He's a creepy looking guy.
Let's face it.
He's a creepy looking guy that is just slightly untrustworthy.
And he talks with that strange voice.
That I want to discuss in a future show.
You know what was the best thing I saw about this?
Let me just say this.
That strange voice, curiously, is the same cadence, and I'm going to prove this, the same cadence and style voice as Glenn Greenwald.
Oh.
Same pauses.
Okay, good.
Same pregnancy here and there and the way he rolls the words out.
It's like an accent of some sort.
Both of these guys and their accent from where?
Never seen them in the same room at the same time.
Never seen the same photo.
This was my favorite meme going around for this.
And this caught on so quickly.
People love doing this.
Crazy, kooky, Republican, you nutjobs.
Where really, it is, quite honestly, a lot of liberals who are just behind on schedule and just forgetting.
That's the facts.
We have those facts from the organizations themselves about people not being on schedule with their kids.
I love the Roald Dahl stories.
You see that?
No.
No.
I'll read this to you.
This is from the Washington Post.
But it was everywhere.
Some people seem to think measles is a nuisance disease, irritating and briefly unpleasant, but otherwise harmless.
For many, it's not so bad.
For others, the measles is serious and potentially fatal.
Then we have Roald Dahl, the renowned author of Boy, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Matilda, and scores of other books and screenplays lost his daughter Olivia to measles in 1962.
In 1988, about seven years before his death, he wrote a poignant plea, which I'd never heard of, never seen before.
But here it is.
Olivia, my eldest daughter, caught measles when she was seven years old.
As the illness took its usual course, I can remember reading to her often in bed and not feeling particularly alarmed about it.
Then one morning, when she was well on the road to recovery, I was sitting on her bed showing her how to fashion little animals out of colored pipe cleaners.
And when it came time, when it came to her turn to make one herself, I noticed that her fingers and her mind were not working together and she couldn't do anything.
Are you feeling all right?
I asked her.
I feel all sleepy, she said.
In an hour, she was unconscious.
In 12 hours, she was dead.
Jeez.
And so, you know, because of Roald Dahl, it's like, wow, my God, this is Roald Dahl?
I never heard this story.
Well, I don't think he would be making it.
It's sick if he was.
They got deep, man.
They got deep for this.
Well, there's money in the vaccine, obviously.
Well, yeah.
And I was thinking also the Ebola vaccine.
They're going to hand that out.
Oh, I had a great note from somebody about that.
Wow, let me just grab this for a second.
Hold on.
This was from one of our producers.
I have it here.
A few months ago, a friend of mine from the Army was going to Africa to help with the Ebola outbreak.
I laid down the no agenda knowledge on him.
He argued against it, but was open-minded about what I was telling him.
Probably because I'm not like Alex Jones and don't scream it's real in people's faces.
I give disclaimers that I have no knowledge of what truth is.
Well, he just came back from his tour and is now in a three-week quarantine.
He sent me this message out of the blue.
Dude, next time I'm in New York, we have to talk off the net.
This whole thing was interesting.
Let's just say almost everywhere else I went outside of the Capitol getting ETU facilities had less than one case of Ebola in the entire country.
So we will be getting an update from producer Nick soon as he speaks to his guy on the inside.
Which I've been saying, the military is not there to do anything for Ebola.
No.
No.
And then they brought back this Andrew Wakefield thing.
Too much action with oil.
Oh yeah, oil and resources.
New oil in West Africa and poor leadership.
Boots on the ground.
Boots on the ground.
We got an interesting note.
I think we both got it.
I'm looking for it now.
From the Japanese guy.
Yes, the one about...
About what the Japanese publics...
How they view...
We don't have any confirmation of this.
We do have people in Japan, and maybe somebody can confirm this.
But essentially he says, and I use the word essentially on purpose...
That's okay.
It's okay.
He says that the Japanese were not on...
You know, these two guys that were...
I have it here.
I have the notes.
Okay, read it, please.
And he has a New York Times...
references a New York Times article about how the Japanese feel about this.
And he says, I disagree with this article.
In Japan, most people don't seem to outrage.
Even manga, which are their comics, suggest that we sent this little copy of it, suggests the public feels like the hostages took a chance to be involved in that part of the world.
In the comic you see here, ISIS gives Japanese a warning and the Japanese public basically says, and he said, basically, aren't you responsible, music?
Meaning, aren't the hostages responsible for going to the Middle East and getting captured?
And why do we have the responsibility for paying all that money?
Because you made that stupid mistake?
That's the attitude.
Maybe not everyone thinks this way, but I think it's a general attitude, so I feel the New York Times article is a lie.
It's a lie, he says.
And of course, this is all just coincidentally comes together with Abe changing The Constitution, so that Japan can now militarize something that we're always very proud of not doing, and not being involved in war since World War II, and now, of course, Japan coming back into the fray, thanks in part to this.
These videos are great.
You pretend to kill one guy, and then everyone goes back to war.
It's phenomenal.
Just phenomenal.
The way it works.
Mm-hmm.
So anyway, whether it was set up ahead of time or not, clearly the legs that this measles vaccine story has is just being used to kookify people.
Kookify.
But this is going to go on.
They've done this with climate change.
The Republicans are all crazy.
And the Republicans are gun nuts, so the women.
This has been...
The fact that the Republicans can't take any defensive measures to stop this or reverse it.
They should just give up.
They should just start a new party.
This is ruined.
They need to start over.
I don't know what their problem is, but I don't know that they even know this is going on.
Well, a number of them are just stupid.
The problem is a number of them are recognizably nuts.
The Democrat Party is nuts, too, but this is so much better.
It's great fun to say they deny science.
End of story.
Deny science is the end of story.
You have nothing left to say.
Just deny science.
The joke of it is, well, you know.
Yeah, what's the joke of it?
What's the joke of it?
Well, we do have to make one mention, short mention of the Super Bowl.
Yes.
Wow.
Super Bowl was this last show.
And I predicted it was going to be a jip at the end.
It was, but not by any official's methodology.
It's by stupidity.
Right.
And the Seattle team, which should have won, because they had a spectacular ending that should have brought them the winning score, and then they threw the ball away by stupidly throwing a crossing route.
Right.
Two feet from the goal line in the middle of a tight defense.
Okay, that makes sense.
And maybe it was thrown.
I don't know.
Here's what I think.
And Vegas, by the way, lost their ass.
Vegas never loses its ass.
Okay.
A lot of people lost a lot of money.
They take the chunk in the middle.
The best come in for the other side.
They change the odds.
Here's what I think happened.
They got into a fight.
I saw they got into a fight.
Because this was not supposed to happen this way.
And they all went, dudes, what are you doing?
You can't win this game?
We're supposed to win.
That's what I saw.
Why else were they fighting?
Why else were they fighting?
The fight was just the poor sportsman.
There was money involved in that.
Those guys, someone got pissed off.
I'm going to smack you around, boy.
You ruined the whole idea.
Well, you know, here's the interesting point to that theory, which I'm now going to subscribe to.
Since we believe these games are all rigged, I have to accept this theory.
I just have to accept it.
You must accept it.
Because of the no agenda thinking.
The guy who made the interception was an opportunist.
He was a rookie who was not clued in on this.
What are you doing?
Don't catch the ball!
Moron!
Exactly.
They've screwed it up.
And according to the coach, who is now going to be ruined for life, he said that, well, this play was supposed to be an incompletion.
It was a play that was a throwaway.
I'm thinking when he says this that he's just an idiot.
But the more I think about it, he's claiming that he's going to throw a play away.
Now, there could be all kinds of reasons for doing that.
And then they were going to run Marshawn Lynch.
But the guy intercepted it and screwed up everything.
It's possible that, yeah, I think that's as good an explanation for what happened as any I've ever heard.
If we are to believe, and we kind of believe that...
That's all rigged.
Yeah, it's rigged.
Made for a great game.
Made for a great ending.
Oh, the game was terrific, especially that crazy catch at the end where the guy, the ball bounced off his stomach and it hit his legs.
It was a great game.
It was fun to watch.
I'm glad you watched it.
I didn't watch the whole thing.
You saw the end?
Yeah, I saw the end, but after the show I went to a crystal class.
Oh!
Okay.
That's...
Okay, we're stopping the show and we're going to talk about this.
No, I'm not going to talk about it.
Come on.
That's what it was.
We wrapped up the show.
You had to get out of there real fast.
We were doing our little finishing.
Let's pick some art.
Let me take a title.
I've got to get out of here.
It was not like that.
And I said, where are you going?
And you say, I'm taking a crystal class where you learn the energy of the crystal and the she-god who rules the universe and something like that.
I can't remember.
Yeah, exactly.
And then you shot out of there and you went to the crystal class and you said, this will be great show material.
That's what she said.
It's not that great.
It was fun, though.
It was me and 15 girls.
15 women.
Yeah, young women.
We sat in a circle.
And did they tell a secret and didn't share a hug?
I told a secret.
Everybody was like, well, I'm here to learn about the crystals and blah, blah, blah.
And I'm like, hold on a second.
This is the romantic heart crystal session, is it not?
I read that this was for people who are heartbroken.
Here I am.
I want my crystals.
Show me how to use them.
And they all went, aww.
I got three numbers at least.
Who's this guy?
You've got three numbers.
And I'm friends with all of them on Facebook now.
It's just hilarious.
Oh, fantastic!
Facebook friends.
I will report on my crystals after I've evaluated them for a little while.
Oh, you actually got yourself a batch of crystals you're wearing around your neck?
No, no, no.
One of them you can put in water and the other one you can...
Spit take.
I left the names of them over.
I can grab them if you want.
Yeah.
Hold on.
I like to hear what this crystal you put in water.
Hold on.
And it gives off the vibes of the universe into the water, the precious water which absorbs the energy of the crystal.
And then I slip into the tub with bubble bath, I might add, and lots of candles all around me.
And the energy of the crystal flows through my soul.
It's the candles that'll kill you.
Okay, I have...
Just for a second.
Okay, so you have the pink kunzite, which opens the heart on all levels, so it can receive everything from a sense of stability to a profound connection with the universe.
Kunzite?
Yes.
And where is it documented that it does what you just said?
On my card.
But my favorite is the rhodochrosite.
Rhodochrosite.
This is the one you put in water.
So it's R-H-O-D-O. Yeah, I get that part.
C-H-R-O-I-O-R-O-C-I-T-E. Rhodochrosite.
Enlivens dull senses, provides an immediate sense of bodily awareness, assists in overcoming negative self-talk or destructive relationships, promotes physical vitality and sensuality.
Is it pink?
Yes.
Yes.
Especially useful for transcending physical trauma relating to accidents or abuse returns users to their body and provides a sense of enjoying the physical.
You are out of your body?
Oh, yeah.
Can also have a flirtatious or vivacious effect if used with that intent.
Pink rhodochrosite is a strong stone to aid emotional healing.
It encourages you to feel love for yourself.
Yeah, that's what I need.
And its energy will assist you in meditation to reach a state of joy and sublime happiness.
Incas believe...
Its energy may stimulate your inner child.
You mock me.
Bring a deep childlike happiness and joy into your life.
You mock me.
It aids you to bring deep forgotten memories to the surface for healing.
Listen...
Incas believe rotocrossite was blood of former rulers hardened to the stone and revered it as a memento mori.
There you go.
It's a pretty stone when it's a big giant crystal and cut and sliced.
Very pretty.
It looks exactly, at least this picture, it looks exactly like a beet.
It does.
Alright, so you just mock me.
Fine.
At least I'm trying something new.
Trying something new?
Yeah.
I thought the spinning was nutty enough.
Yeah.
I'm going to try yoga next, too.
Oh, well, you probably need the flexibility.
Oh, I think yoga will be nice.
You're going to try yoga next.
Yes.
What's wrong with that?
Lots of people do yoga, John.
Yeah, no, I think it's fantastic.
You said yeah, no.
Yes, no, maybe.
I don't know.
What?
I was actually hoping to do a count with a clicker that I was going to...
You can click on it, it tells you numbers.
I got to get this yes, no thing eliminated.
I don't need everyone to email, oh, the explanation for the yes, no.
I don't care about what yes, no means or how its usage is developed over the years.
I don't like using it.
I want it gone.
You just need help stopping.
I agree.
Yeah, maybe some crystal.
I'll bet you there's a crystal.
I shall ask the crystal.
I will ask the crystal lady.
Yeah, see if I can be more aware of...
Here's what I will do.
I will post this in...
In the crystal.
Oh, there's the crystal Facebook group.
Yes, group.
Now, you might want to try the garnet.
Because the Garnet...
I have one, too.
The Garnet helps you focus on your strategy to win your war.
And this could be your...
Is this what you got?
You got some Garnet?
I got a Garnet, yeah.
And it's right here.
I use the Garnet for the show to inspire me and protect me.
Huh.
Yeah.
Who should use this road or whatever it is?
It's common for many people to evade certain issues, even though you know that you feel a deep sense of mistrust of some person at a gut level.
This strong reaction in the gut or within the solar plexus or power shock.
Fine, fine, fine.
Let's move on.
To the biggest lie of the week, which I found so beautifully covered up and pasted over, this Brian Williams lie.
This is great!
I have a couple clips.
And by the way, I want to make sure that we remember that it harkens back to the Hillary Clinton.
Hillary Clinton, that's right, Hillary Clinton lie.
Exactly the same idea.
Well, actually, this is a little more, a little rougher.
Here is a lie one.
...started with a terrible moment a dozen years back during the invasion of Iraq, when the helicopter we were traveling in was forced down after being hit by an RPG. Our traveling NBC News team was rescued, surrounded, and kept alive by an armored mechanized platoon from the U.S. Army 3rd Infantry.
Okay, so the discrepancy here is that his helicopter was not actually hit by an RPG, but a different helicopter.
Here's line number two.
Ladies and gentlemen, during the Iraq invasion, US Army Command Sergeant Major Tim Terpak was responsible for the safety of Brian Williams and his NBC News team after their Chinook helicopter was hit and crippled by enemy fire.
Fantastic.
So somehow this comes out that he's full of crap, and then he comes up with an apology, our Brian Williams does.
On this broadcast last week, in an effort to honor and thank a veteran who protected me and so many others after a ground fire in...
I'm sorry, did you have a question?
No, I'm saying he's already setting up, but he has an excuse for doing this?
Oh, yeah.
On this broadcast last week, in an effort to honor and thank a veteran who protected me and so many others after a ground fire incident in the desert during the Iraq War invasion, I made a mistake in recalling the events of 12 years ago.
It did not take long to hear from some brave men and women in the air crews Mm-hmm.
Who were also in that desert.
I want to apologize.
I said I was traveling in an aircraft that was hit by RPG fire.
I was instead in a following aircraft.
We all landed after the ground fire incident and spent two harrowing nights in a sandstorm in the Iraq desert.
This was a bungled attempt by me to thank one special veteran, and by extension, our brave military men and women, veterans everywhere, those who have served while I did not.
I hope they know they have my greatest respect, and also now my apology.
Epic Fail.
Yeah.
And just to show that he's full of crap, I found...
A segment from him on David Letterman in 2013, lying again.
We were in some helicopters.
What we didn't know was we were north of the invasion.
We were the northernmost Americans in Iraq.
We were going to drop some bridge portions across the Euphrates so the 3rd Infantry could cross on them.
Two of our four helicopters were hit by ground fire, including the one I was in.
No kidding!
RPG and AK-47.
What a liar.
What a liar!
What a liar!
That Letterman clip is the one that closes the deal on him.
Oh, yeah.
He's a liar.
He's a sack of poop liar.
Yeah, he said, well, it was just an accident.
I was trying to honor some guy.
And then he goes on Letterman and tells the same story.
Only exaggerates it.
We're way ahead of everybody else.
We're dropping, you know, some bridge components.
So, you know, as always, not only hit by the...
Missile, or RPG. And he was not only hit, but they were doing good work.
He lies.
He lies.
He's done.
I don't know.
He'll get out of it, I think.
Well, NBC's got enough trouble.
The ratings suck.
They got MSNBC to deal with, and they're a bunch of phonies.
And now they got the news anchor, who has to be a very trusted person to deliver the news, who's lying and then lying again.
Lies.
Yeah.
Well, we see him, and he's in a lot of movies and stuff.
He's an actor.
Yeah.
I've always thought Williams was a...
Well, I told you, he used to work in New York, and my, let's see, one, two, my, yeah, my first wife, I get to say that now, she had all kinds of work done, and he was doing, like, little packages about local plastic surgeons and hitting on her.
Well, he never had any work done on his nose, which is crooked.
I'm not saying he had work done, but that's what he did.
He did human interest pieces on boob jobs.
Yeah, and then he was like an anchor on MSNBC for a long time where he honed his skills as a newsreader.
But this is not what you want from your anchor to be a...
No.
And they did it twice.
That's good, isn't it?
How long ago was the Letterman?
2013.
And what was the other?
The other one was just a few weeks ago?
So nobody called him out on the Letterman thing, apparently.
No.
Because nobody watches Letterman.
Liars!
Liars, I tell you!
Yeah.
Yeah, that's distressing.
No skin off my nose.
No, but it's distressing that you have to assume this is a component of our media.
Well, a takedown, perhaps.
No, I'm talking about the glorification of oneself.
Oh, of course, yeah.
By news anchormen who are just trying to embellish stories to make themselves look good.
To get a reaction.
This is not what you want.
You don't want people reporting that are doing this.
No.
Well, of course, we already proved that the news media, the way it exists today, is crap anyway.
Yes.
Here's a big story.
This is the big story that somebody wrote in and said, oh, you guys, nobody's reporting this, but they're reporting it.
And I think this is technically a huge scandal that I think has all kinds of implications.
But play the anthem hacked.
Oh, man.
We got that email, but this kind of just started to break today.
Well, at this hour, millions of Americans don't even know it yet, but their health insurance company has been hacked.
Someone broke into the database of Anthem, which is the second largest health insurer in America.
Anthem is responsible for many of the Blue Cross Blue Shield plans.
It's not clear how many people this impacts, but the database held personal info for about 80 million customers and employees.
Anthem is offering free credit monitoring and is increasing its password protection.
Well, that includes us.
We're in that database.
You?
Yeah, Mevio had Blue Cross.
Oh yeah, we had some Blue Cross.
And it includes former customers.
And it's social security numbers, addresses, etc.
Yeah, and now by law, which is the thing that always bothers me, my doctors at the Albany Medical Group, which is in Emeryville, they...
They're older guys, and about a year or two ago, they all have these tablets, these little tablets they had to buy because they have some software now, because the government has mandated that all medical records be electronic for the near future, and they had to either move some of the old handwritten stuff onto the electronics, I don't know what they did with the old records, whatever the case is.
It's not secure that way.
It's secure when it's a handwritten record that's in a file folder.
You go to the doctor, they pull your file out, and he's got his notes on there.
Now, it's in the cloud.
And if this sort of thing happens with Anthem Blue Cross, that means they're going to be hacking everybody's medical records.
And by the way, that is considered a private...
That's private information, but if anyone can just hack it and pull it down, the insurance companies are going to love that.
Oh, I didn't know this guy had that ailment.
Oh, that's interesting.
Right.
I hadn't even thought about that angle.
That's where it's going.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
Well, this is...
And I always have to refer, whenever this happens, to the fine work of Theodore Kaczynski.
Industrial Society and its future.
Link in the show notes.
Have a read.
This is all really...
The more we rely on technology, the more it's going to start messing with us.
This is a prime example.
And this is Oracle, by the way.
These guys use Oracle.
So this is a big problem if...
I mean, yeah, you have security for getting into it, but you would think that the Oracle...
It's just not that stealable, you know?
But if there's passwords involved and there's outside...
If you can get into it from an outside line...
It's just impossible to protect.
Find the guy with the password...
Put a gun to his head.
Give you the password.
You type it in.
You take all the data out.
You download the whole thing because he's the administrator.
You find out who the guy is and you just put a gun to his head.
You can get all the information you want.
Anyone can do this.
If you're going to put private information in the cloud, by law, this is going to happen.
You say cloud.
We don't know if it's in the cloud.
It doesn't matter where it was.
They got it.
It's beside the point.
It's on a computer.
Allow me to ask.
My doctor stuff's quote-unquote in the cloud.
The cloud doesn't mean anything.
It's a meaningless term.
I mean, it means there's a computer that's online somewhere that you're linking into.
But I'm just saying that you can get into these things.
And now they've done this.
I mean, this is like one salvo.
I mean, next thing you know, everything's going to be...
And, of course, they immediately cooperate with the FBI.
They're ahead of the cyber-sharing agreements, but they're already doing it.
And this kind of comes with a coincidental launch.
I'm not sure.
It's probably not related, but I did find, let me just find this for you.
I thought it was kind of interesting because it includes Megan Smith, a famous Google exec who now is the chief technology officer for these United States of Gitmo Nation.
Ebshe wants you to join the U.S. Digital Service.
Have you seen this?
No.
USDS, the United States Digital Service.
There's a nice little video, a little promo video, which includes her and some dudes named Ben and dudes named Dudette's name...
What's the USPS.gov?
Uh, yeah, I think so.
I'll play the video here.
These tours of duty that we set people up with, like, these are things that they're going to be telling the grandkids about.
Like, there was that time when I worked for the White House, and here's what I did at the White House, and it was more meaningful than anything I've done before or since.
In tech, I think a lot of us, we're just solving really big, complex, difficult problems and thinking, alright, this is a crazy problem.
I know software, I know technology, so how do I use that knowledge to fix it?
Like, just any big problem.
Yeah, I never ever pictured myself doing this until I saw someone else doing it and thought, that's awesome.
I finally get to use my skills too.
These are such hipster people.
The multi-culti girl, you got the dude with the beard.
Do you actually make a difference in people's lives?
And the music is so inviting.
I think a long-term difference.
The United States...
This is Megan.
...the Americans who have tech skills come into government and help them do what we need to do from D.C. and across this country.
By the way, Megan Smith needs to fix her teeth.
Have you seen her teeth?
Well, I used to have her on my old Silicon Spin show quite often.
I didn't notice that her teeth were off.
My teeth may not be the best in the world, but it's just crooked and just sticking out all over the place.
There's no reason in 2015 to have those teeth.
Well, I never expected to be here, and I realized that that's something I said with each step forward that I've taken so far.
Right now is just a really critical time to get technologists into the government because there is a huge desire in you.
The skills that we have as technologists in the private sector are still quite rare in government and whether it's for a year or six months or two months or even for a couple weeks, the time that you spend in US government can make a dramatic impact.
Figuring out how we can use technology better to help the lives of American people is not a new challenge for the federal government.
This is something that we've been working on since day one of the administrations and administrations before us have tried to solve as well.
I have explained to people how broken things are.
Broken!
And a lot of them have asked me, why would you walk into that?
And the answer is because it matters.
You know, I thought about this and I just remember thinking, wow, I know technology.
This is how I'll serve my country.
In many cases, we're addressing the needs of the people who are most in need for whatever definition you want to use, least able to help themselves.
That's the guy from the healthcare.gov.
Typically did in Silicon Valley.
We shifted how people are working, facilitated by technology.
And those shifts will outlast the specific technical solutions that we build.
And that opportunity is unparalleled.
At times, I'm not sure if I'll finish my term with a concrete deliverable, but I know that the culture is shifting.
Deliverable?
I have no deliverable.
I'm just sitting around, I don't know, being an attack.
Start sometimes.
Some people are hands-on keyboard coders.
There's also amazing designers.
Coders.
Don't call them coders.
Coders don't like being called coders.
There's amazing design thinking people.
There's product managers.
There's people who really know that subject matter or that user who are scrubbed in together on these fabulous cross-functional teams.
Fabulous.
Scrubbed in together?
Is that what she said?
Yeah, this is Megan.
Scrubbed in together on these fabulous cross-platform teams.
Listen to this.
This is gobbledygook of the highest order.
This is really good.
This is it.
This is the last bit here.
A concrete deliverable.
But I know that the culture is shifting.
And that has to start sometime.
Some people are hands-on keyboard coders.
There's also amazing designers.
There's amazing design thinking people.
There's product managers.
There's people who really know that subject matter or that user who are scrubbed in together on these fabulous cross-functional teams.
Scrubbed in together on these fabulous cross-functional teams.
Wow!
I gotta write that down.
Hold on.
That's a winner.
Scrubbed in.
Hold on.
What does that mean?
Scrubbed in together on these fabulous Cross-function.
Teams.
And that's Megan Smith calling people coders.
Hands-on coders.
That's rude.
It's just rude.
So, you may not think you belong in the United States Digital Service, but we want you.
Yeah, we want you.
Oh, she's like, we want you.
All right.
Sad.
Just sad.
I don't know.
Depressing.
Somewhat.
So let me ask you a question.
Scrubbed in together.
Now that you and I are scrubbed in together on this fabulous cross-function team, I have a question.
With the information that we know has now been taken, which includes yours and mine, presumably, what can be done?
And I think my information has now been stolen many times over.
Does this mean that people will assume my identity?
Does it matter at this point anymore, having this information, a social security number?
80 million, you know, they can pick and choose.
I think these companies need to be sued.
Ah.
Yeah.
Well, don't they get some kind of indemnification if they sign on to the sharing agreement?
I'm sure when you signed up for the operation, for the Anthem operation, you probably already signed your rights away.
What I mean is, with the cyber-sharing legislation that we read that is now law, when they share things, if they agree to the sharing agreement, they are indemnified.
By the government.
Yes.
Maybe this information went straight to NSA. You don't know.
Who knows?
I don't know if it's any good to them, but...
Well, they don't care.
They're hoarders.
I think the main thing is connecting emails and phone numbers, particularly phone numbers, I think would be a bad thing.
That's where the real trouble comes in, I think.
Maybe.
Here's one for you, since we're talking about the medical system.
Play Pelosi.
They're baying at the moon.
Something that is not going to work.
And instead of proposing any, which we'd be welcome to hear, good suggestions they may have to approve the Affordable Care Act, they're baying at the moon 56 times.
Is she insane?
She is insane.
Baying at the moon?
She actually missed one of them.
She says they're baying at the moon.
They're baying at the moon.
Yeah.
Oh!
Bang at the moon, everybody.
Wow.
Bang at the moon.
What does that mean?
They're pissing in the wind.
Wow.
Shoveling shit against the tide.
But she won't say that.
She uses bang at the moon.
I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on no agenda in the morning.
Before we do, there's some people to thank for show what?
Before you start, John, I just want to thank everybody.
Do you remember I mentioned my P.O. box on the show?
Yes.
41958 Austin, Texas 78704.
Well, somehow everyone thought it was funny to send Adam stuff.
Okay.
What'd you get?
Well, I got a drone.
We know I got the drone, which is...
Yeah, I got a drone, too.
So I crank up my drone.
I got to talk to the drone guy.
I need lessons.
I haven't tried my drone.
I got my drone.
I'm not even sure this controller is right.
So I flipped on the drone.
I flipped on the controller, and boom!
The thing takes off like a rocket, goes straight to the ceiling, and sticks there.
So luckily my daughter was here, and so I said, okay.
Hey, daughter, go get that for me.
No, no, it was up on the ceiling.
I said, get under this thing.
I'm going to kill the power, and you're going to have to catch it, because I didn't want to break it.
And so I finally got the power turned off of the thing, and the drone paid attention and turned off all its motors and dropped.
She caught it, and I didn't know what to take.
I have not tried my drone yet.
But do it inside.
I got a...
I don't know from who.
I got a tin of strobewafels.
You know, the Dutch...
Oh, James Cate sent me that.
You know the strobewafels?
We talked about those?
Yeah.
Okay.
And then I got a lovely note from D.H. Slammer.
Thank you for your courage.
Really nice long.
And Dame Bang Bang.
And I got two books.
I got...
It's just fantastic.
Thank you all very much.
I got a lot to do now.
That's good.
I like it.
It's nice.
Nice.
Very cute.
Yeah, it's all cute.
Okay, we have a few people to thank for supporting the program.
This is the value-for-value model that we have been using since...
Well, not since day one.
We just were doing it.
But now, certainly well into six years of our seven.
And this is what keeps us going.
It is producers like you who are helping us be able to do this show.
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It's all well and good to tell a no agenda faithful about Fredericksburg, but please keep it quiet around a-holes.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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No, that's...
Berthusen.
Close, close, close.
Edward Berthusen.
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In Amstelveen.
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We'll do a good karma for him.
Everybody gets karma.
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That was Reen van Reithhoven.
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He must be one of those happy people.
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Thank you very much.
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It's a birthday or something coming up.
New human resource karma.
I'll give you that at the end.
I don't think that was on my list.
Let me check.
You can give him a birthday card.
I got it.
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Wow.
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Oh, there it is.
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He says a serious no agenda of voters in order on the dime means exactly not plus 10 cents.
Yeah, he was drunk when he sent that.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, that's not the genesis of it.
No, 55 is, yeah, double nickels on the dime, 5, 5, 10.
And he has some stick up his butt about it being 55 exactly.
Right, but he doesn't realize where this came from.
Came from Sergeant Fred, I think, didn't it?
I think it was Sergeant, yeah.
Rothkamp, right.
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Okay, good.
That'd be a long-time donor.
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Simon...
That's a good one.
I can't pronounce it.
He's also in Denmark.
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I used to say Oklahoma City, but I believe he's somewhere else.
Those were checks?
Were there any notes with those?
I think those were both checks, yeah.
And I believe Kyle Morrison wanted to call out...
Let me see.
Did he have a douchebag?
Yes.
Matt Wilson is a douchebag.
Douchebag!
There you go.
A Tinder profile, Potfather 6, Pancake Mistress.
Oh, let me tell you something.
I'm regretting that Christina set that up for me, that Tinder thing.
Yeah?
Ugh.
Because you can only sign up with your Facebook profile.
Why?
You can't log in any other way.
It connects to Facebook.
Well, that's stupid.
Are they part of Facebook?
Are they owned by Facebook?
Is this a Facebook operation?
No, but when you do that as a developer, you get a whole bunch of Facebook information.
Like, an unbelievable amount.
I'm getting spammed by every dating site, every...
It's just...
It's incredible.
And you get automatically signed up for stuff.
Ugh.
So you're not recommending this?
I'm not recommending this.
Good.
Yeah, of course not.
You should not...
No, it's just a big marketing scam to make you buy more crap.
And I got a...
Because I'm trying to go all in on some things, on some devices and some not, I have my old tablet, the Nexus 7, and I installed Google Now.
Oh, man.
Have you looked at the permissions for that thing?
Oh, it takes over the place.
It can read.
It says it right there.
It can read all of your private information.
It can read everything.
And it says it unabashedly.
Yeah, well, nobody cares.
I care.
Well, you're one of few.
Yeah, I know.
So, yeah, this is, and I think most of these dating apps work the same way.
You have to sign in with Facebook, and they're getting so much information about you and your friends and everything, and it's just, it's showing up everywhere.
You know, I notice these things.
I know what to look for, and I'm just seeing the ads that are popping up.
I didn't sign up for seeking, what is it called, the seekingarrangement.com?
SeekingArrangement.com.
That's sugar daddies and sugar babies.
Oh, that's you.
No.
SeekingArrangement.
SeekingArrangement.
NudgeNudge.com.
Hell, no.
I didn't sign up for that.
Anyway.
Yeah, it's a big giant scam.
Total scam.
Now I have to...
Never get out of it.
You're going to be screwed.
You've already signed...
You're doomed.
You've got to throw the machines away and come under the new name.
I've got to go change my name.
Change your name legally.
Change my name legally.
Exactly.
Another reason not to be part of the Facebook bullpen.
It is so annoying.
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Yeah, I think I'll highlight a few of them maybe in this Saturday newsletter.
There are some nice, see, we get some nice mail from people.
We don't get rarely, once in a while, say, you guys are full of crap about this.
I did get one that was, your wife left you because you are demeaning to women.
You're an a-hole.
Was this from a woman?
No, from a dude.
Of course not.
Oh, hold on a second.
Hmm, that makes sense.
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Apparently that drives some people crazy.
It drives people very, very nuts.
We've been looking at a resurgence of the six-week cycle.
Yeah, and we should see, well, in the classic sense, it should be March 1st.
If we're going to believe it.
March 1st.
March 1st.
I got this nice little ditty from, I guess this is a longer documentary.
This is former FBI Assistant Director Thomas Fuentes.
Who explains, in a very short clip, what the purpose of the six-week summit is.
I heard this is a great clip.
If you're submitting budget proposals for a law enforcement agency, for an intelligence agency, you're not going to submit the proposal that we won the war on terror and everything's great because the first thing's going to happen and your budget's going to be cut in half.
You know, it's my opposite of Jesse Jackson's keep hope alive.
This is Keep Fear Alive.
I don't know why I didn't get that clip, but I heard it.
Keep Fear Alive.
Keep Fear Alive.
I'm going to put that in the Evergreens, actually.
I think that's Evergreen.
Maybe that's a show title.
Also a good idea.
Let me just put that in our Evergreen.
It'll be worth it someday.
Going after Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
Oh, please.
Have you heard this?
Please do.
This is from, I guess, the shape-shifting Jews department.
I found this to be interesting on multiple levels.
This is a secret recording from...
I'm not quite sure where she was, but she's talking about almost the sovereignty of the Jews in America.
It's a strange clip, and it's probably out of context, but this is now being...
Shuttled around, I guess, trying to discredit her.
I've been married going on 24 years, and I know all of you probably at one point or another have met my incredible children who are now 15, 15, and 11.
Because we have the problem of assimilation, we have the problem of intermarriage.
Problem with assimilation and intermarriage?
We have a problem that too many generations of Jews...
Don't realize the importance of our institutions strengthening our community.
What?
We have problems with too many Jews not understanding our institutions and strengthening of our community, I guess because of intermarriage?
Particularly with the rise of anti-Semitism and global intolerance.
Ah, there we go.
Anti-Semitism, of course, that is the mantra of what is happening in Europe.
Which, obviously, we saw...
In horrific technicolor in just the last week.
In horrific technicolor.
But they're trying to discredit her with that.
Not such a big deal to me.
So who's she married to here?
Steve Schultz.
She's married to a guy named Schultz.
There's no wiki entry for him.
But if his name is Schultz, that's a Jewish name?
Maybe he's a northern Jew and she's a southern Jew?
What's the deal here?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I have no idea what it's about.
Um...
This is good.
This one...
And this was sent to me...
Actually, I'll back it up.
Let me go...
No, I'm going to say it right here.
This was about Greece.
Of course, we didn't really discuss it that much, but we know that the Syriza Party caught in, and I was alerted to the Minister of Finance...
Now, of course, a lot is happening with Greece and their finances.
And I think it's now no agenda thinking to be looking at cabinet members ever since the Ukrainian finance minister was literally put in overnight, becoming a citizen with a passport.
She's an American hedge fund manager.
And all of a sudden she's there to manage the finances of Ukraine.
Yanis Varouvakis is the...
This is fantastic.
He is the finance minister for Greece, the new one now.
And this guy is...
Well, he might as well just...
You might as well just call him an American.
So he did graduate from Morata School in Athens, but then he went to University of Essex, University of East Anglia, University of Cambridge, University of Sydney, Lyndon B. Johnson School of Public Affairs, where he taught at the University of Texas.
He is the author of several books on game theory, because he's also a consultant and economist in residence at the Valve Corporation.
I mean, that's one of the biggest gaming companies there is.
And he continues to be a consultant to them, an economist in residence.
I would call Shill.
Yes, or something.
And he looks scary.
He looks like an MMA fighter.
Freaky looking guy.
What's his name again?
It's Yanis, Y-A-N-I-S, Varoufakis.
Victor Alpha Romeo, Oscar uniform, Foxtrot Alpha Kilo India Sierra.
So I'm not trusting too much.
Let's see.
He was appointed finance manager.
I've seen this.
He's been on a lot.
Yeah, he's a commentator.
He's got that smarmy kind of like, well, here's what we're going to do.
First, we're going to whack this guy.
Doesn't he look like that?
He looks like a whacker.
He does.
He looks like a total whacker.
I know.
His political career is this.
This is his political career.
He was appointed finance minister by Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras in the aftermath of the Syriza victory.
A self-described, quote, libertarian Marxist.
What?
It's doable.
And he says several books.
Game Theory.
Game Theory.
What the hell is game theory, really?
I can't summarize it for you.
Go to Wikipedia and you can look up game theory and you will find a good summary.
Okay.
The rise of...
Oh.
The rise of Doctor Doom.
Anyway, I just thought that was interesting to point out.
They're calling him Doctor Doom?
Yeah.
Look at his face.
Come on.
Yeah, I know.
He's a doom-looking guy.
Doom-looking.
Doomy.
Doomy.
Looks like he's a take-care-of-himself-looking guy.
And just because everyone else will ignore it, I thought that this was just one of the most interesting pieces of video that I've seen.
It's something that we used to follow quite a while ago.
Another tale of the Hollywood Whackers.
This is the Randy Quaid video with his wife Evie, as they are still apparently somewhere on the lam.
Have you seen this?
No, I lost track of the story.
I thought that it was all over.
I thought he was back in Hollywood doing bit parts.
No.
And I shall narrate a bit of this video, the audio for it.
So we're seeing a shot of what looks like a longer-term hotel room kind of thing.
A residence inn.
Yes.
His wife, Evie, is in the background.
She's laying on the bed in a bikini.
Or it could be like Victoria's Secret.
Got a little lingerie with dark sunglasses on.
Brandy's in the foreground with a completely white beard.
And he's looking crazy.
He's looking pretty crazy.
Reminder, things went incredibly wrong with him a couple years back.
He was on the run and they were being arrested.
Just a crazy, crazy story.
He is, of course, well known for Independence Day.
And what was the other big hit he had?
He had a bunch of movies.
And he was on Saturday Night Live for a long time, too.
And so now he has been whacked by Hollywood.
Hi, I'm Randy Quaid, and this is my wife, Evie.
I helped media giants News Corp and Warner Brothers Entertainment earn well over a billion dollars for the films Independence Day and Christmas Vacation.
What did I get in return?
A Warner Brothers exec, Bruce Berman, stole my house.
It happens.
And News Corp's The New York Post continues to smear me to high heaven with a pack of lies.
For good measure, Warner Brothers even had my wife and I falsely arrested six times by TMZ. TMZ apparently arrested him.
No, for real.
Well...
That's really how it works.
Hashtag PMC. Police media corruption.
This is great.
Bum!
Bum!
Evie and I have been put through a living hell.
A living hell of biblical proportion.
So how do we retaliate?
What do we do?
Oh, any idea, John?
Can you guess what he's going to say?
Well, first of all, I have a question.
Yes.
Which is that when we first did this guy story, it was about this kind of an underground Hollywood Whackers, mafioso kind of thing going on in Hollywood.
It wasn't up front the studios.
It was some alien kind of thing to Hollywood, ancillary.
There was a guy who killed the public relations woman.
Oh, right, right.
That is coming back to me.
Yeah, there's a public relations woman and there's a bunch of other of these mysterious deaths.
And the public relations woman was particularly screwy.
Chasen is her name.
Yes, yes, yes.
It was particularly screwy because there was a guy on a bicycle that drove up next to her and shot her.
And then that guy got whacked by the cops.
And then that guy just ended up getting killed.
And it was more similar.
This was like three, four years ago.
Similar types of scenarios.
And this guy was the main player because he came out and said they were going to kill him.
Right.
He was the one.
Yes, he was saying that they're Hollywood whackers.
They whack people.
Yeah.
Right.
And so now it's the studios out to get them and Fox and Murdoch.
I mean, come on.
This is not the same story, but go on.
Well, I still have a few tricks, too.
This is the very same shirt that I wore an ID for when I saved the world.
Another act that Rupert Murdoch still hasn't thanked me for.
So, Rupert, you want to fuck me?
I'm gonna fuck you.
Evie, put this on.
So he has a mask of Rupert Murdoch's head.
Like a cut-out picture mask.
Yeah.
And now his wife comes forward, leans into the camera, bending over, putting the mask on.
And then Quaid now backs up.
He's not wearing pants.
You just see his legs.
And he's getting behind her.
Maybe you'll thank me for this.
He spits on his hand.
Ha!
And then he starts pretending to bang Rupert Murdoch, which is his wife with a mask.
What noise?
The dog is barking.
Together, Rupert!
Together, Rupert!
There's a dog in the room.
Yes!
And he's barking.
And he's banging his wife from behind who's wearing the Rupert Murdoch mask.
It has to be seen.
It has to be seen.
We have a link in the show notes.
Together, we'll wipe out police media corruption!
Yeah, Rupert!
What?
Wipe out corruption.
The dog is the touch.
It's nine more seconds.
Yeah!
I'm back!
I think he's great.
Some reminisce about Charlie Hebdo in that scene, I'm sure of it.
Oh, man.
Did you see this?
It's just so bizarre.
Yeah, he's lost his marbles.
Randy Quaid is not an unknown, lame actor.
Look at what happened with the winning guy.
Oh, Charlie Sheen?
Charlie Sheen.
A lot of these guys are bipolar.
They've got issues.
Sheen's bipolar.
Sheen has drugs and all kinds of other stuff.
I don't know if Randy Quaid is on drugs.
Well, he's into something wrong.
It is funny, though.
Yeah, I will definitely check that out.
Okay, um...
Let's talk about the Silk Road guy.
Oh, okay.
I'm au courant, but I have nothing on him.
Talk to me.
Well, he is arrested, which was a while ago.
Now, just yesterday or the day before, he's found guilty on all charges.
And it looks like a trumped-up case.
Question?
Yes?
As far as I understand, there were no actual charges of trying to kill someone.
Those were not charges.
Yeah, I believe that's true.
Okay, all right, good.
But let's play Silk Road AJ, which I think is the first of the two clips, just to catch people up.
Okay, hold on.
That's Al Jazeera.
There's an Al Jazeera report.
Yes, it is.
The man who ran the notorious website Silk Road has been convicted in federal court.
A jury found Ross Ulbricht guilty on drug trafficking and money laundering charges.
His website allowed users to buy all sorts of illegal goods, including drugs and fake IDs.
Ulbricht faces up to life in prison when he is sentenced in May.
Hmm.
Now, that was followed by, I think this was a report from one of the, this was, I don't think it was RT, it may have been France 24, but this is a little longer report from the ground and discussing some of the screwiness to this case.
Well, I can tell you that the jury took hardly any time at all, just three and a half hours, to find the defendant, Ross Ulbricht, guilty on all charges, seven of them, ranging from drug trafficking to conspiracy to commit money laundering to a criminal enterprise kingpin charge that's usually reserved ranging from drug trafficking to conspiracy to commit money laundering to a criminal enterprise kingpin charge that's usually reserved for people in the
The prosecution in their case laid out how they spent two years investigating the dark website known as the Silk Road, where illegal drugs were bought and sold.
They, in that time, were trying to link a man known only as Dread Pirate Roberts, the administrator of the site, to a real person.
And they detailed for the jury just how they did that.
They said that they found Ross Albrecht's name through a basic Google search and spent two years infiltrating the workers of the Silk Road.
Getting to know the operation, how it was happening, and built a case bit by bit.
The jury had to pour through thousands of pages of documents that showed what the Dread Pirate Roberts was doing and saying and how that paralleled the life of Ross Ulbrich as laid out by the prosecution through emails and Facebook posts and so on.
It was a trial, a conviction, an investigation that took place almost entirely online.
It was a very interesting case watched by privacy advocates.
The defense argued that the government had the wrong guy.
Ross Albrecht, yes, he started the Silk Road, but he had handed off the reins, only to be lured back in as a fall guy for the real Dread Pirate Roberts.
They argued that all of the evidence presented by the government was just a little too convenient, and that information online can be so easily manipulated that it shouldn't be used to connect Ross Albrecht to the dread pirate Roberts.
But at the end of the day, the jury did come back on the side of government.
Prosecutors, again, guilty on all counts.
That's troubling.
Very troubling.
I found this whole thing to be distressing.
It sounds like they don't have a real physical connection.
They have no evidence.
Wow.
They have a trumped up bunch of evidence of the stupid jury.
Okay, you know, the government's never, they're looking out for us.
And so they bought into it.
It may not hold up when they appeal.
So they have pictures of the guy, and he does little rock climbing, and his teeth need work.
They never found any money that I know of.
We talked about this when they first arrested him.
He's living in a shithole apartment with three other roommates in San Francisco.
The money, nobody talks about where's the money, all this money he supposedly made.
And the guy has a look about him that's hard to believe is a kingpin.
Of any sort.
Because kingpins, I don't want to generalize, but guys who are into being kingpins, you know, big shots, they have trappings.
I mean, it's a nice storyline to have in a movie, maybe, where you have the unassuming character.
I think Meyer Lansky was probably an example of that, the famous gangster who lived in just a tract home in Florida.
I mean, this is a possibility, but generally speaking, the guy has to have a nice car or something.
Did they not arrest him when he was on the laptop at the time?
That's where they got all their information from?
Or connected it to him?
Well, the problem is that the way this is presented in this case, that was never brought up.
Because all the research was done online.
And they found him by a Google search.
By the way, anyone could be set up this way.
Yeah, they gave him a laptop and said, here you go.
Check this out.
We'll be back in a moment.
And they, you know, the guy supposedly, the way they ran the case against him was they had found parallels.
The guy's like, he was at a Starbucks, and apparently the pirate is at a Starbucks at the same time, according to Facebook posts.
Is that good enough to convict somebody?
Well, I guess with the thousand pages of all these coincidences, or supposed coincidences, or rigged coincidences, we don't know.
We have to look at this document.
It was, but it's pretty...
And they had all these guys infiltrated, but they didn't bring any witnesses in.
Is that what you're telling me?
Is there a copy of this decision online?
I'd love to dig into that.
That's interesting.
Yeah, I think it's going to be a good read.
I've read these...
Did he plead not guilty?
Yeah, of course he did.
He said, yeah, he did some web development for these guys, and that was that.
That sounds plausible.
Well, whatever the case, there's a lot of holes in the story.
Alright, I'll see if that's...
Now you're caught up.
Yeah, I only wanted to mention it because I thought you might be reading this thing.
It's my wheelhouse, John.
You're right in there.
I expect to get a copy for you.
Yeah.
This is...
In our ever-ongoing quest to make Vladimir Putin seem like a complete crazy guy...
Putin!
This is Made USA Today, which means the talking points are out.
2008 Pentagon study, which is not really a Pentagon study, but it was a study done by a think tank, which, although not conclusive, provided enough information for researchers to claim Vladimir Putin has Asperger's.
Yeah, that was in today's top of the stories on MSN News when you booted up your browser.
Putin has Asperger's.
Researchers can't prove their theory about Putin and Asperger's.
Asperger's?
Asperger's.
The report said, because they were not able to perform a brain scan.
Ah, that's next.
The report cites work by autism specialists as backing their findings.
Maybe he had a measles vaccine.
Sorry.
So, this is just another discreditation.
It's a weak one.
Because the study, there's no real proof, but they just say, oh, the guy looks like he has an autistic disorder.
Look at him!
Just look at him!
How do they actually come up with that?
Let me see if I can find...
Did you see any of what their real findings were?
No.
I just thought the story was bogus.
I didn't follow up on it.
Of course it's bogus, but you have to look at...
Oh, here it is.
His analysis, the U.S. officials needed to find quieter settings whose behavior and facial expressions reveal someone who is defensive in large social settings.
Although these features are observed in Asperger's, they are also observed in individuals who have difficulty staying calm in social settings and have low thresholds to be reactive.
So this is based upon facial expressions now.
Jeez.
I know, I know.
Oh, there you go.
I just thought it was of note.
Of note.
And also the...
Never mind.
Forget I even said that.
What else do I have?
There's a book out, a new book came out from an author.
It's called Chasing the Scream, and it tracks the war on drugs starting in the 30s.
When Harry Anslinger had a bone to pick with everything.
And this guy made it very interesting.
It's Johann Brie or Brie, whatever his name is, the writer.
He said something on here, and I have a clip, that I did not know.
I did not know any of this, and I think we should have it at least at our side when we see these arguments about legalizing marijuana.
Finally, could you talk about President Mujica of Uruguay?
Oh, he's one of the most amazing people I've ever interviewed.
Mohica was a leader of the Tupamaru guerrilla movement.
He was a dissident.
He was kept at the bottom of a well for two years by the dictatorship.
And he emerged to become the leader of his country.
He lives in a shack.
I went to the shack.
I mean, it's no exaggeration to say David Cameron and Barack Obama wouldn't keep their shoes where Mohica lives.
And he led his country to legalise marijuana, first country to legalise marijuana since the drug war begins in the 30s, because he'd seen what happened, and I went there to see this in northern Mexico, where the cartels have...
If a large part of the economy is illegal drugs, the armed criminal gangs have more money than the state.
They can hijack the state and take it over.
And he saw if that comes and hits Uruguay...
They're screwed.
It's a small country.
They don't have much military force.
And really the horror that I saw, I mean, I interviewed the only person to ever be at the heart of one of the Mexican drug cartels and make it out to tell what it was like.
And, you know, this is one of the most horrendous atrocities of the war on drugs is what it does to the supply route countries.
I didn't know it was legal in Uruguay.
I don't believe it's the first country that legalized.
I think Holland was legal forever.
No, no, no.
Holland has tolerance but not legalized Portugal.
Portugal decriminalized.
I guess by some logic you could probably say.
And all of that's being turned back now because of the harmonization of the EU. Forget about it.
It's all over.
There's more legal marijuana available in America now than Amsterdam.
Yeah.
Colorado, Washington, Oregon, Alaska, and there's, I guess, a couple more coming up for grabs.
Yeah, and when it comes to gay marriage, we have now 36 states in America.
We're not the big homophobes we used to be.
Well, anyway, I just thought it was interesting that Uruguay, and the logic was different.
It was.
Homosexuality is such a pain in the ass.
I'm sorry, I don't know where that came from.
Very off the wall.
I did know about this guy in Uruguay.
There's been several pieces on him living in the shack.
I haven't...
Yeah?
Yeah, he seems like an interesting character.
Uruguay might be a place to go.
I don't know about that.
Here's an interesting...
I ran into this clip.
This is an offbeat clip.
It's a clip about Tanzania and this problem with witches.
And they started...
I didn't clip the whole thing because it was actually kind of gruesome.
This guy's describing what happened to his sister or something.
They grabbed her and beat her up and chopped her arms and legs off with machetes and then threw in a pile and burned her.
Nice.
Because she was a witch.
And...
I always wonder about some of these African countries and some of the logic of the thinking that goes on into developing whatever culture they have or don't have.
And this little report has a punchline that's just like, oh, maybe this is part of the problem.
If you tell the patients that they have been bewitched by somebody, you just create a conflict between the two.
That is when killings can happen.
Behind the suspicion often lies a more sinister motive, greed.
They think the only way to access that property, be it cows, be it farms, be whatever, is to claim that this lady is a witch and in so doing, then it justifies for her death.
A simple accusation of witchcraft can condemn a woman to death, leaving her property and wealth to the accuser.
They got to get their...
They gotta get it together.
You accuse somebody of being a witch and you get their stuff.
Sounds fair.
Unbelievable.
I have two things left.
One is I stand corrected.
It was Glenn Double N, producer Glenn, who corrected me the imitation game, which is about the Enigma machine, which does not properly credit the Polish cracking of the code and really setting all this up.
I was wrong.
There is one mention in the movie.
Here it is.
This is unacceptable.
If you wish to discuss the complaint, I suggest you make a proper appointment.
Alexander.
Complaint?
No.
No, Hugh Alexander has denied my requisition for parts and equipment that I need to build the machine I've designed.
Your fellow codebreakers are refusing to work with you while they've filed a formal complaint.
It is inspired by an old Polish code machine, only this one is infinitely more advanced.
If you don't respond to the complaint, I shall have to take it up at the Home Office.
There you go.
There is mention.
An old Polish machine.
Ah, an old Polish.
That's about it.
And then the second thing I have is we had Tom Wheeler, chairman of the FCC, come out and say, okay, I'm ready to circulate my ideas.
It seems surprisingly very much like the president's idea of shoving stuff under Title II, which we really, of course, there's nothing to read yet, nothing to see.
I have two Wheeler clips.
I have two Wheeler clips.
Are they from PBS? Yes.
They might be.
Because I have two from PBS. We'll see what you got.
Here we go.
One.
You want to make sure that you've got protections in place so that consumers know that when they go to the Internet, it's going to be fast, it's going to be fair, and it's going to be open.
And at the same point in time, you want to do it in a way that's not going to constrain investment.
Because, obviously, we want people, companies, to be building faster and more ubiquitous broadband networks.
So it's been a balance of both of those.
The general consensus that I saw amongst the tech, press, and media was, great!
Fantastic!
Finally something good!
This is going to be awesome!
And it's not going to be awesome, people, because this is going to bring in regulation which restricts content that may flow if it is based on law, as in unlawful content or unlawful network traffic.
This will be the wording in the legislation.
Clip number two.
We're really not doing utility regulation.
Not really, except we're putting it under Title II, which is utility regulation.
Utility regulation was developed for a monopoly model.
What we're doing is we're taking the legal construct That once was used for phone companies and pairing it back to modernize it so it specifically deals with this issue.
So it's not really utility regulation, but it is regulation to make sure that there is somebody watching out for the consumer, that like you said, there's no paid prioritization, there's no blocking, there's no throttling.
No blocking.
Pay attention.
That would be only of legal and lawful content.
And most important, there will be ongoing rules in perpetuity.
What?
In perpetuity?
Ongoing what?
Ongoing rules in perpetuity.
Let's just hear that again.
And then he qualifies that, by the way.
Prioritization.
There's no blocking.
There's no throttling.
And most important, there will be ongoing rules in perpetuity so that there'll be a yardstick to measure what's fair for consumers.
Because we don't know what the Internet's going to be five years from now.
And we don't know what the various tricks are going to be five years from now.
But we're going to have a referee on the field.
We'll have a referee on the field, a yardstick, rules in perpetuity, and what tricks will be...
I mean, wow!
Oh yeah, no, this is horrible.
This is bad for everything and everybody.
And I think one of these two clips of mine, I believe, is a tech reporter for Al Jazeera.
Oh, good.
And you can see how they're handling this, and I think you're right.
I think most of the tech community is going in this direction.
Let's play the first one.
Let's see if the op-ed clip...
Yeah.
Let's see what that is.
Because he wrote an op-ed which was published in Wired, which doesn't tell us much.
No, that was the New York Times.
Oh, I got it from Wired.
Okay, whatever.
He wrote an op-ed.
Would share a slower, more crowded digital highway.
That segregation, critics say, would kill the free and open Internet as we know it.
What Wheeler is proposing is a plan that regulates Internet service the same way the government regulates phone service or, well, the highways.
In an op-ed, Wheeler wrote, The proposal I present to the commission will ensure the Internet remains open now and in the future for all Americans.
So that is a tech journalist.
And that's his opinion.
It's a very pro-wheeler.
I mean, I don't understand if everyone's hypnotized or they don't see the problem here, but they don't.
What's also interesting is throughout this interview with Gwen Ifill, it was about 11 minutes, He keeps referring to ISPs solely as cable companies, which is interesting because that could be, A, just his thinking in general that nothing else exists.
He comes from Comcast.
He does.
Or it could also be that this regulation may not apply necessarily to non-cable company ISPs.
I don't know, but wouldn't that be interesting?
It seems unlikely.
Let's play the second part of this clip and see where this goes.
The proposed rules would prevent broadband providers from blocking or limiting content The FCC will vote on Wheeler's proposal later this month.
Now, in the message that FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler posted on the Internet today, he also mentioned that these rules will apply to mobile broadband as well.
And that addresses one of the great criticisms of the FCC, that they've always been behind the technology when it comes to regulation.
Now it seems they're trying to make sure that the Internet reaches us the same way the highway does, free and open, guaranteed to all, no matter how we visit the Internet, whether it's through a browser, on the phone, or through some other device in the future.
Wow, great tech report.
Through a browser.
I'm going to say it right now.
I'm just rereading his op-ed.
This is going to be exactly what the president called for.
And the giveaway is in this.
Using this authority, and he refers to Title II authority, to implement and enforce open internet protections.
Using this authority, I am submitting to my colleagues the strongest open Internet protections ever proposed by the FCC.
These enforceable, here it comes, bright line rules, that's the president's wording right there, will ban paid prioritization, the blocking and throttling of lawful content.
There it is, lawful content and services.
The blocking and throttling of lawful content and services.
Some services will be unlawful.
I propose to fully apply for the first time ever those bright line rules.
What's bright line rules even mean?
Oh, we looked this up last time.
Yeah, I guess.
Bright line rules.
Let me get a definition for you.
This is exactly what the president's...
Here it is.
Bright line rule.
This is according to Wikipedia, which we know...
A bright line rule is a clearly defined rule or standard generally used in law composed of objective factors which leave little or no room for varying interpretation.
The purpose of a bright line rule is to produce predictable and consistent results in its application.
Bright line rules are usually standards established by courts in legal precedent or by legislatures in statutory provisions.
Bright line rules are often contrasted with its opposite, balancing tests.
Where a result is dependent on weighing several factors.
So this is going to be so clear.
But the thing that no one is talking about, and there's the verge.
This is great!
And all the comments, yeah, finally, man!
Netflix won buffer!
Fucking asshole, stupid morons!
Sorry, Tourette's.
Actually, if you look at this and the kind of lawsuits that are going to occur, and we've already heard from that woman that heads up the mobile industry, and the fact that the U.S. Congress has passed laws specifically about mobile broadband, and we don't need any of these rules, but they're going to implement them anyway.
Yeah.
We're going to see probably more buffering because Netflix has unfairly got servers at all the ISP as co-located devices because they have what they call their web appliance sitting at, for example, Sonic.net.
Comcast refuses to put these in because it costs too much to operate is their argument, although they have similar devices for their own movies.
But now, if everything's got to be fair, you can't have these appliances giving unfair advantage to Netflix.
I don't see how you can rationalize it.
Those things have got to go.
I would very much like to see what the technical implementation is going to be, specifically because the Internet was built on...
Paid prioritization is called peering.
And the opposite is you purchase transit.
I mean, this is how it was built.
This is how it was built.
And if you put in Title II, you're not...
Actually, that's how it evolved.
In the early days of the Internet, in 1969, there was no peering and all these...
And paid transit and all this stuff was not even thought of.
Agreed.
Agreed.
That's how it evolved.
Agreed.
And the good news is, of course, that this doesn't really do much to the network itself Because the network is the beauty.
The services and products that they're talking about, which is Netflix and Facebook and Twitter and Google and all these things, that's all going to be regulated.
But when it comes to distributed hash tables, there will be ways to get around it without any problem, but it will not be for the general population because there will be no money to be made with services like that.
So it will not become the great equalizer that it could have been where we really have people conversing across the globe about how we can change things.
It's just over.
That's not going to work.
They finally did it.
When this happens, it'll be decades before we get anything going again.
Well, they've been planning on this government takeover so they can regulate it because, you know, it's out of control.
From a government perspective, it's out of control.
It's out of control.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
You can't censor it.
You can't censor it.
Yes.
You deem something illegal?
Oh, that's hate speech.
You can't run that.
We've got to shut your website down.
That's right.
Hate speech will be forbidden.
It goes blocked at the ISP level.
Yeah, right at your access level.
Yeah, and speech.
No good.
When you hear him literally say, lawful, no blocking of lawful content and services.
A service will be BitTorrent, BitTorrentSync, whatever it is.
If they can, they will.
Here's the verge.
I hate these guys.
Listen to this.
This is probably Neelai.
No, it's not.
TC Sada.
Whatever.
Headline.
Net neutrality wins!
FCC will propose strong Title II regulation.
And let's look at some of the comments from the sheep who think that this is great.
I've yet to see a single thing.
This is good news, says the real JT. I hope the news was delivered directly to David Pierce.
After all those Neelai burns, he deserves some love.
Oh, man.
Everyone's all in.
They think this is great.
They've been brainwashed into believing this is what you need.
Sorry.
And you know what?
There will be a day...
And I hope we're still alive, and someone will say, you know, damn, Dvorak and Curry were right.
This sucks.
This sucks.
It's kind of like...
I don't think it'll take that long before people realize that this isn't going to work.
It's going to be too late, because he set himself in perpetuity.
Once the government gets his camel head into the tent, you're screwed.
Yeah.
We've done everything we can.
And curiously, all these same guys are all into this net neutrality bogus argument.
And now it was just switched over to this newer sounding argument, the independent cipher, free and open internet.
Whatever that means.
All these guys were the same guys when this whole thing began.
Oh God, keep the government away from this because this thing is great.
It's too good.
It's evolving all these things without the government.
No, we don't want the government.
We don't want the government.
The government, and now the same people say, oh, we need net neutrality, but it's not really an issue.
Less than 10 minutes to go, okay?
I think we should actually end now.
Yeah.
Let's see.
The only other thing...
No.
I've got stuff for Sunday.
Keep some stuff over.
I've got the aviation news.
We have to talk about a couple things that have been happening.
Yeah, let's talk about that in the next episode.
Also, some more poppy stand drug news.
I might have some tech news we could look at.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I'm going to deconstruct Singularity University for you.
Oh, fun.
Yeah, these guys need some deconstruction.
They're getting very, very annoying.
Deconstruction or a takedown?
I don't know if I can take anybody down by myself.
That's probably true.
I can certainly, certainly give it a try.
Thank you all.
BAYING AT THE MOON.
Baying at the moon.
Yes, that's the one I was looking for.
Thank you.
Exactly what I needed.
All right.
Hey, I'm going to be in New York next week.
Why?
Huh?
Why?
Because I can.
Well, still.
Yeah, because I can.
Just to go float around?
No real purpose?
Eh, a buddy of mine's there.
I'm going to hang out a bit.
No.
No purpose.
I'm going to get some news from New York.
Yeah.
We could get something good.
You never know.
Possible.
Inberg's going to get the new guy.
You should be excited.
I am.
Whenever the show's on the road, fun things happen.
Yes.
I'm jacked up.
I can tell.
You sound completely jacked.
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