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	Absolutely.
	Let's get some dirt on this and show that it's bogus.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	And Sunday, November 30th, 2014.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 674.
	This is No Agenda.
	Digesting my Sunday pancakes baked from the ISIS recipe book.
	And back in FEMA Region 6, Austin, Texas, capital of the Drone Star State in the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from rain-drenched northern Silicon Valley, on the lookout for online scams, I'm John C. Dubois.
	So I left all of that in.
	Good.
	All of our web IQ. Stupid quiz.
	They're doing more things like this.
	If you want to read an article.
	It's idiotic, this quiz.
	It was idiotically simple.
	Anyone that listens to our show could have gotten 100% on this.
	Except for the Moore's Law thing if they parsed it correctly.
	Well, I know you're angry.
	I just find it annoying that they pull this crap and then they tell us we got one wrong.
	Have you noticed this new gateway feature?
	If you want to read the article, answer a survey question?
	That's not that new.
	Maybe I'm just seeing it now.
	Yeah, I've seen it a couple times.
	Other.
	It's always other.
	Other.
	It's always other.
	For me it is.
	Give them bad answers.
	Hey, you told me to do something after the show, the last one we had in Amsterdam.
	Yes.
	And I did it.
	This legislation is important.
	The substance is right, the time is right, and the way in which it has been developed is right.
	It is a properly considered, thought through set of proposals that will help to keep us safe at a time of very significant danger.
	It has been drawn up in close consultation with the police and security services.
	In an open and free society like ours, we can never entirely eliminate the threat from terrorism.
	But we must do everything possible, consistent with our values as a country, to reduce the risk presented by our enemies.
	It is a struggle that will go on for many years.
	And the threat we face right now is perhaps greater than it ever has been.
	And we must have the powers we need, powers we need, powers we need to defend ourselves.
	And that's the story.
	I should have stuck that at the end.
	That's Theresa May.
	Yes, that was good.
	I like the way it slowed her down more and more.
	Yeah, I thought you liked that.
	Good, I'm glad you liked that.
	Yeah, that's very good.
	I just like that.
	I need that background music.
	I think we can use that more often.
	You know where that's from?
	The background music I think is from Rubicon.
	Oh, really?
	Let me see.
	Do I have it here?
	Let me see.
	I think so.
	Rubicon, which has been taken off.
	It used to be a free...
	People could watch it for free on Amazon.
	Oh, it's gone.
	Disappeared.
	You can't get Rubicon anyway, anyhow, anymore.
	I know.
	Let me see.
	I think I have it.
	The problem is what I liked about it when it was on Amazon, they had it in HD because they never played it in HD. No, it's not Rubicon.
	Hmm.
	Something else.
	I don't know, but I'll find it for you.
	I'll let you know.
	Anyway, I'm back from the lowlands.
	And I'm back.
	You're back from the highlands, the wetlands.
	We are back at home base.
	Funny how, when we're back at home base, it's taken us seven years, but boy, does it sound good when we're home.
	That sounded pretty good last time.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's right.
	We didn't have any real technical issues.
	True.
	So, let's start with your experience coming back into the homeland.
	It was perfect.
	It was perfect.
	I had my global entry.
	Zipped right through.
	Perfect.
	I had no problems either.
	I had pre-check.
	Even though you are not actually an interviewed, trusted traveler, yeah.
	You had your pre-check.
	I had pre-check.
	Waltz right through.
	Um...
	I was trying to think.
	There's something funny that happened at the airport.
	It wasn't to me, though.
	You know, I had an interesting Uber driver at Austin Bergstrom Airport going home.
	And again, it was a Dodge Caravan that didn't...
	I ordered the Uber X because I got the suitcase.
	I figured the Uber X or XL, whatever it's called, I figured that would be a little nicer, but...
	Another Dodge Caravan is just stinky and nasty.
	Not always that way.
	We have them.
	I think they come that way.
	Actually, it's a feature you added.
	It's an extra.
	Exactly.
	How stinky do you want your Caravan?
	Exactly.
	Would you like horse smell, barnyard?
	So I'm talking to the driver, because I'm interested.
	I always want to think, because there's so many reports now about Uber, and of course ever since we recognized that this actually does signal the beginning of Armageddon, because now we have the middle class taking their car and driving, puking people around.
	This guy was young, though, and he was originally from Ethiopia, and he's a citizen, a naturalized citizen, and he had just graduated UT, and he wanted to do his master's at Texas University in business, and he was driving the Uber because he wanted to pay off his student loan.
	And he said, you know, 13 months, and we had like nine more months to go, and it was about, you know, whatever it was.
	He said he could just about make it and kind of survive by driving the Uber, but it's really a $10 an hour job when it boils down to it.
	But it was really nice because here was a guy who, he said, I believe in the American dream.
	And, you know, you know me.
	Like, oh, you listen to our president's version of that?
	He says, yeah.
	Thank God there was someone who really had that vision.
	You know, you come in here, you can make it.
	You can be that guy.
	And he says, I live in all these other countries.
	It's shit.
	He says I live in England.
	There's nowhere is like America.
	It's the best country in the world.
	And by coincidence, maybe, maybe not, I came across an interview of Gregory Clark of UC Davis.
	That's up near you.
	Where is that, Davis?
	It's in Davis.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's just north of Sacramento over to the West.
	Oh, isn't that the hippie college?
	The hippie college is UC Santa Cruz.
	Okay.
	I thought Davis was.
	No, Davis is the Aggies.
	And he has a very interesting topic.
	A local college professor has determined there is no American dream.
	The American dream is an illusion.
	Well, first of all, yeah, we've got to agree on that.
	Of course it's an illusion.
	Well, if you went to Davis, absolutely correct.
	America has no higher rate of social mobility than medieval England or pre-industrial Sweden.
	That's the most difficult part about talking about social mobility is because it is shattering people's dreams.
	Clark crunched numbers in the U.S. from the past 100 years.
	Y-I-T equals X-T. His data shows the so-called American dream, that hard work leads to more opportunities, is an illusion.
	By the way, I don't think that is the truth.
	I don't think that is part of the American dream, that hard work, you make it.
	I think it is.
	Well, it may be a subset.
	Well, that would be part of.
	Okay.
	But, you know, the American dream is you build a better mousetrap.
	I don't know if that's true.
	That's part of it.
	You're getting a skewed version.
	No thanks to Obama.
	I've been influenced.
	The American dream that hard work leads to more opportunities is an illusion.
	I think opportunities come for different reasons.
	But okay, I'll let it pass.
	And that social mobility fear is no different than the rest of the world.
	Social mobility fear?
	I didn't know there was such a thing.
	What the heck is that?
	It sounds bogus.
	I think the Ethiopians got it right.
	Your grandchildren, your great-grandchildren, your great-great-grandchildren is going to be quite closely related to your average status now.
	It's no American dream.
	Professor Clark says it's the American reality.
	The good news is that this is coming from an economist because economists are used to being unpopular.
	And so we're the right people to bear this message that, yes, the world is a limiting place.
	Well, Professor Clark's study was published by the Council on Foreign Relations, a think tank specializing in U.S. foreign policy.
	I left that in.
	I just wanted you to hear that.
	Very funny.
	I know why you left it in.
	More bogus crap.
	The guy, by the way, sounds like he's got pursed lips, small pince-nez on his nose.
	Pince-nez, yes.
	Pince-nez, and he's smoking with a cigarette holder.
	Not.
	But I think it is important to point out that the American dream pays off in many different ways.
	We cannot all be, you know, Zuckerberg or...
	What?
	Yeah, you can be Zuckerberg.
	Yeah, there's plenty of room for more podcasters, which is also part of the American dream.
	This is true.
	There is plenty of room for more podcasters.
	Red book, John.
	More the merrier.
	Red book, red book, red book.
	What?
	Okay.
	Hold on, I've got to get to the right page.
	They haven't picked it up yet.
	But they're working on it.
	I'm sure.
	This came in from NBC. The Afghan police shot down and killed a bird carrying a bomb.
	This is really funny.
	So they have this video.
	There's just wild sound.
	It's like a Photoshop or...
	No, no, no, no.
	After Effects.
	No.
	If you look at...
	So they have this poor bird who's been shot apart.
	And he has a little transmitter with a little antenna.
	I can see the artists at work now that do our show.
	No, no, no, no.
	No, they're having a bird with a bomb.
	Oh, okay.
	But I'm going to tell you what this is.
	So one of our producers did a freeze frame on this video.
	And you can see the tag from ECCH in Tajikistan with a telephone number, and it's the ecch.ub.org.
	This was a research bird with a tracking device.
	From Uzbekistan?
	Sure.
	Uzbekistan, they're not like all sand bunnies dancing around.
	No, Uzbekistan is like the last holdout of the old communist empire.
	It even says here, contact...
	Horrible place.
	It's a...
	E-C-C-H dot U-Z, I guess, dot org.
	So this was just a research bird, but now NBC is saying, oh, bird bomb!
	Watch.
	I'm waiting for this to play out.
	I'm waiting for this to play out.
	That crazy bomb maker in Yemen has come up with bird bombs.
	Do you have it in the book?
	I'm putting it in the book, and I'm going to highlight it and the whole thing.
	Well, yeah, good.
	There we go, bird bombs, AC. Bird bomb.
	If you've ever been to one of the football games in the Bay Area after the Seagulls come in, there's plenty of bird bombs, let me tell you.
	Well, we are, of course, on the air broadcasting with our podcast, Best One in the Universe, I'm reliably informed, while the rest of the media is about to kick off an entire month of retrospectives and year-end lists.
	Yeah, it's a great way to pad the weak coverage that they have to begin with.
	Of anything.
	Yeah.
	And we will continue to keep our heads down.
	Well, I'm on the lookout as usual.
	Since you brought this up a few minutes ago about memes and the American Dream and the rest.
	And we have talked, and I'll remind people that we do have the tape.
	Tape.
	The recording of the guy who is a consultant, goes to Hollywood, and has him drop meme bombs into scripts to promote certain agendas.
	And the agenda that shows up in this particular clip is global warming.
	And, of course, I'm looking for the clip, and I just smacked my lips.
	I haven't heard myself do that, but I still have not heard the yes-no.
	Coming out of my own mouth.
	I'll let you know when the yes-no hits.
	Yeah, you always let me know, but I... I don't know why I can't hear it.
	I have this one for you, though.
	though this was interesting notice that is yeah guy with lip smacking Thank you.
	Yeah, that's great.
	I busted you.
	I thought this was an original.
	Okay.
	I'm just...
	Oh, here it is.
	Okay, jeez.
	This is the OMFG clip.
	You're not even listening.
	Now, I want you to count the number of really funny memes that they throw in here.
	This newsroom is still on, apparently.
	It's a new season, I believe.
	Yeah, and so they have the new episode.
	I can't watch it.
	I can't watch it.
	The girl who's the blonde, kind of square-headed, round-faced girl who's a wannabe reporter.
	Yeah, she's kind of the main character, although not really because it's supposed to be Mac.
	Yeah, she's the sub-main character.
	Right, yeah.
	And she's on a train, and a guy's got a document he's going to give to her, and he tells her what it's about and what they're going to do, and then she takes the document, and then she goes back to her car mate, or the person that she was chatting with earlier, and then they exchange numbers so she could get together.
	Now, just make a list of how many memes you can catch in this thing, because they are some gems in this baby.
	This report won't be released for a week.
	The White House got it today, but they won't show it to the President until at least Monday.
	It's yours, along with an exclusive interview.
	What's in it?
	The level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has passed a long-feared milestone.
	The amount of poison gas in the air hasn't been this high in three million years since before there were humans.
	We get the report.
	You get the report.
	Embargo it until Monday.
	And an exclusive enemy.
	Of who?
	Me.
	Any chance we can get the administrator?
	There hasn't been an administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency for a while because Senate Republicans won't confirm one and the President doesn't want to waste political capital.
	Though I'm not sure what he's saving it up for.
	And that statement was on the record.
	Coming up in just a few minutes.
	Richard, be careful when you're talking out loud in public.
	I was careful.
	Okay, but you just told a train car full of people that the apocalypse is out.
	Damn it.
	It's all right.
	Nobody's listening.
	Tell me about it.
	It's nice meeting you, Jack.
	I've got to get my bag.
	Isn't that your bag?
	This is a month's rent for me.
	It's my executive producers.
	I don't know your name.
	Maggie Jordan.
	I'd love to call you.
	Here's my card.
	Great.
	And Jack, I've got a report here from the EPA that says you probably shouldn't wait that long.
	Unbelievable!
	We're all going to die.
	We're all going to die.
	It starts off with we're all going to die.
	It's beyond, it's over the edge.
	It's one of the first memes.
	It's over the edge.
	We're already too late.
	The tipping point, we've passed it as, of course, we've been, since we began our show seven years ago, we've been every day, it's like we just passed the tipping point, there's nothing we can do.
	The other thing is, I love the way, the thing that really caught my attention was the way they changed the carbon dioxide to poison gas.
	First it was carbon pollution.
	Yeah.
	And then indeed it became carbon gas.
	Wow.
	Let me play that.
	No, it actually says...
	Poison gas.
	Poison gas.
	You're right.
	Poison gas.
	So in other words, and of course this is the anti-human part of it because we exhale...
	Poison gas.
	Poison gas.
	So we're exhaling...
	Poison gas.
	Poison gas.
	That's right.
	You are poisoning.
	You are in fact...
	There's nothing in the world where we call carbon dioxide poison gas.
	It is not poison gas.
	It is not poisonous.
	Because of lack of oxygen, but it's not poisonous.
	Here's the Lear Foundation thing again.
	So in the course of our work, this is in the two years, 11 to 13, 335 storylines that we worked on have been aired.
	We've worked with 35 networks in the past four years.
	91 different television shows.
	That is Martin Kaplan for the Lear Foundation at the Hollywood Health and Society meeting.
	Yes, well, this is, of course, part of the propagandistic messaging.
	And I liked the last two ones I want to throw in.
	There was a few in the middle.
	The Republicans are responsible for everything.
	They're bad.
	And also, you mentioned Armageddon.
	You talk too loud.
	You're telling everyone it's Armageddon, assuming that it is.
	And then last, call me soon because we're all going to die.
	Yeah, from the poison gas.
	The whole thing was disgusting.
	Yeah.
	Well, what do you want to tackle?
	The propaganda or the global warming?
	I can go both ways.
	I don't care.
	I threw the ball to you.
	You got it now.
	Yeah, you did.
	The World Bank has released a report, a 320-page report, which I, of course, looked at.
	That's a good reading on the plane.
	I didn't get it actually until yesterday, so I came home as I'm chomping on some jerky.
	Which I like to eat.
	Some nice bison jerky.
	I'm reading the report.
	The report is very beautifully done.
	You really have to see this.
	Of course, it's in the show notes and marked up here and there at 674.noagendanotes.com.
	Imagine the background is a tree with circles, a slice of a tree trunk.
	You can see the circles.
	Then the middle of the circle moves into the foreground where you have four degrees, and the degree is the little circle that's in the middle of the tree slice.
	Does that make any sense?
	Yeah, yeah, no.
	I get it.
	Yeah, no?
	Yeah, no.
	And the title is Turn Down the Heat!
	Confronting the New Climate Normal.
	The new climate normal.
	Yes.
	And the assertion of this entire report is it's too late.
	We can't change anything.
	It's too late again.
	Mm-hmm.
	Yes.
	Even very ambitious mitigation can't change the fact that the world has already locked in mid-century warming of 1.5 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial times.
	Locked and loaded.
	Locked in.
	So this report, and I think this is a very smart thing to do, is focused entirely on mitigation and resilience and grit.
	As the warming will bring increased threats to food and water security and jeopardizes poverty reduction efforts.
	The report confirms...
	This is cool.
	You know what they've managed to do here?
	They've managed to give themselves an out...
	Totally.
	...on their crappy attempts to reduce poverty.
	Yeah, so it doesn't even matter if we bring it all the way down...
	But we could...
	It's not our fault.
	It's global warming.
	And here's what I got.
	I'm always looking at the background.
	So this is the World Bank, International Bank for Reconstruction and Development.
	Mind you, this is what they do.
	They're putting on a report that puts them in the foreground of the guise to rebuild and prepare for the inevitable apocalypse, Armageddon.
	It might as well have been a report by Bechtel.
	Well, this work was prepared for the World Bank by the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research and Climate Analytics.
	Gee, you think they're biased?
	The findings, interpretations, and conclusions expressed in this work do not necessarily reflect the views of the World Bank, its board of executive directors, or the governments they represent.
	The World Bank does not guarantee the accuracy of the data included in this commissioned work.
	Thanks.
	After I read that...
	So they paid for this and they won't even back it?
	Well, they're hedging.
	That is another out.
	They're just giving themselves an out.
	Well, you know, after all the information shifted the other way, let's say, goes to global cooling.
	Oh, well, we never, we said right here that we didn't trust the information.
	We knew this.
	Exactly.
	Let me see what I have.
	Dramatic climate change and weather extremes are already affecting millions of people around the world, damaging crops and coastlines and putting water security at risk.
	Across the three regions studying this report, record-breaking temperatures are occurring more frequently.
	Rainfall has increased in intensity in some places, while drought-prone regions like the Mediterranean are getting drier.
	A significant increase in tropical North Atlantic cyclone activity is affecting the Caribbean and Central America.
	So you can pretty much imagine this report is all about, we need to build, and you should come to us in partnership, the World Bank that is.
	And spend money.
	To build.
	And I looked at this outfit, the Potsdamer Institute, that did this particular study.
	I'm just opening it up here.
	There was a...
	It's at pic-potsdam.de.
	This is another one of those.
	Let's just skip this one.
	It's all the board of trustees and the board of directors.
	I get very tired when I look at all these organizations that are involved in this.
	You just see the same people over and over again.
	And this connected directly to the World Bank.
	Telling us that there's no other way to go than into resilience mode.
	And I was going to connect that to something else and it slipped my mind.
	Hold on.
	You sound like you...
	I'm struggling.
	I'm struggling.
	Guys, I've heard about them before.
	I can't find it.
	As wide as anybody.
	Listen to them.
	Ah, fuck me.
	They're in the Twitter Institute, which is also part of the same scam network.
	Yeah, you nailed it.
	The scam.
	The scam, horrible.
	We can make just kind of a tape of what I just did.
	Yeah.
	Instead of that, let's go to Russia.
	Russia.
	I've been working with...
	Coincidentally.
	I'm sorry?
	I got a lot of good stuff from Russia.
	Good.
	I believe there is sufficient evidence to show that there is a push underway for Russia, that regime change is the mission, and it has begun.
	And this starts with, of course, with the gays.
	That's why Brian the Gay Crusader alerted me.
	Oh, you're taking this.
	You finally took a meta look at this.
	I like this already.
	Thank you.
	I can't take all the credit for it, because sometimes it takes someone like Brian the Gay Crusader to jar me, like, oh...
	Okay, so we have this report that comes out by the...
	You and Brian, the gay crusader, seem to be a little cozy recently.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Well, I... Regime change, Dvorak's out.
	We need the balance, man.
	It won't work with the two of us on the show.
	This was a...
	What?
	Nothing.
	Go on, just do your analysis.
	Okay, it started with an AP report.
	And we know the AP is bogative and crap, but you've got to follow this stuff now.
	I thought Associated Press was kind of, you know, that's the gold standard.
	No.
	Okay, right.
	Scores of Russian gays are seeking asylum in U.S., Okay, yeah, this is already good.
	All right.
	Now, but this is very interesting when you see how this message has been propagated.
	You know, I'm going to stop you for a second.
	Why?
	Just as a background, I just want to mention that Putin, ever since he took over the oil companies, this sort of thing's been...
	Putin!
	Anyway, go on.
	Continue.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	The number here is 969 applications for asylum by Russians in the 2014 fiscal year, up 34% from 2012.
	Not up 33, that's a plus.
	Should have done that.
	So notice, up 34% from 2012, fiscal year 2014, there's no mention of 2013.
	This is the kind of bogative numbers that you have to pay attention to.
	But this actually came out.
	969.
	Oh yeah, oh yeah.
	I know.
	Isn't it annoying?
	This report was already out in October 15th.
	So now we're more than a month later, Associated Press decides to write this.
	And we again have the number.
	This is from, it started with a report from Radio Free Europe slash Radio Liberty.
	Now, as you know, Radio Free Europe slash Radio Liberty is a United States State Department-funded outfit.
	Right.
	And the broadcast...
	Is it the Board of Governors?
	Yeah.
	They maintain this.
	And, of course, this is one of these outfits that was specifically mentioned with the overturn of the Smith-Munt Act.
	Because you can't have, you know, Radio Free Europe, Radio Liberty.
	They're not just broadcasting over there in Europe and towards Russia.
	They're also on the Internet with reports like this, which is pure propaganda.
	But again, the United States received 969 new asylum applications from Russian nationals in the 2014 fiscal year.
	And I'm going to bring up...
	Let me just bring this up here.
	I have the numbers...
	From the past years of asylum from people seeking asylum from Russia.
	I believe these numbers are total numbers.
	They're not even gay numbers.
	It's funny.
	Gay numbers.
	Okay.
	We have...
	Okay.
	From the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, these are the statistics that were used.
	We have 2000...
	Let's go 2011.
	By country of nationality, for Russia, 633 in 2011.
	That's not gay, that's all.
	Then we have 2012, Russia, 728.
	And then we have 2013, which is not mentioned in this credible report from Associated Press, 534.
	But they say fiscal year 2014, so I'm pretty sure they're taking all of the 534 number and adding whatever they have, which is not published from 2014, and then saying, oh, there's 969 in total.
	Which is total.
	It's not just LGBTQIAAP. It is total asylum seekers.
	Now, where does this report really come from?
	There's a guy who works at Radio Free Europe, Radio Liberty, called James Kerchick.
	And we remember James Kerchick from this famous RT piece where he got in everybody's, this is from 2013, he got in everybody's face on RT about the Russian gay legislation, gay propaganda legislation, which of course on this show we also debunked as being completely horseshit.
	Here's a look back of James Kerchick, the guy who is now putting out this report who works for Radio Free Europe, Radio Liberty.
	Yeah, James, and let me ask you the same position, establishing question.
	Yeah, well, Harvey Fierstein is a very famous American playwright and actor.
	He said that...
	And you'll recall that Harvey Fierstein is the one who actually started the whole Russia wants to kill gays meme.
	He's the one that began that months after the legislation came out.
	Being silent in the face of evil is something that we can't do.
	And so, being here on a Kremlin-funded propaganda network, I'm going to wear my gay pride suspenders and I'm going to speak out against the horrific anti-gay legislation that Vladimir Putin has signed into law that was passed unanimously by the Russian Duma that criminalizes homosexual propaganda, that effectively makes it illegal to talk about homosexuality in public.
	We've seen a state of violent attacks on gay people in Russia.
	We've seen a state of violent...
	What about Bradley Manning first?
	I'm not really interested in talking about Bradley Manning.
	I'm interested in talking about the horrific environment of homophobia in Russia right now and to let the Russian gay people know that they have friends and allies and solidarity from people all over the world and that we're not going to be silent in the face of this horrific repression that is perpetrated by your paymasters, by Vladimir Putin.
	Oh, I see.
	That's what I'm here to talk about.
	All right.
	You want to hear more or are you done?
	No, just listen to this a little more.
	It gets better.
	It's funny because of the way she's handling him.
	You can hear in her voice she's rolling her eyes.
	Oh yeah, big time.
	And they're in Moscow, I think, the two women.
	And I don't know, as a journalist, how you can go to sleep at night and see what happens to journalists in Russia who are routinely harassed.
	...tortured in some cases killed by the Russian government, how you can call yourself a journalist and how you can go to sleep at night.
	I find that abominable.
	You should be ashamed of yourself.
	Everyone who works for this network should be ashamed of yourself.
	You should cover what's happening in Russia.
	You should cover the horrific abuse.
	The horrific abuse!
	We're waiting for the verdict.
	You know, you have 24 hours a day to lie about the United States and to ignore what's happening in Russia.
	You have 24 hours a day to do that.
	I'm going to take my two minutes and tell people the truth.
	All right.
	Thank you very much for that.
	All right.
	I've had enough.
	What a self-aggrandizing.
	And this was after Snowden was, of course.
	Yes.
	And here's a guy who works for the American propaganda, Radio Free Europe, Radio Liberty.
	You know, we have a saying for that.
	Hello, Kettle.
	This is the pot calling.
	Now, who is Mr.
	James Kerchick besides the man working at Radio Free Europe, Radio Liberty, and yelling about propaganda?
	Well, he happens to...
	Ironically.
	He happens to...
	Let me get to his official title here.
	I believe he's a fellow.
	Yes, with the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, not the step all over Iraq.
	For the Foreign Policy Initiative.
	Well, he's also with the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.
	Who cares?
	He's with the Foreign Policy Initiative.
	Which is what?
	Robert Kagan and Bill Kristol.
	Oh, the Kagan boys.
	The Kagan boys.
	The Foundation for Defense of Democracies is a Kagan operation.
	It's all Kagan operations.
	And they have this white paper.
	Now I'm getting really deep from the...
	The Institute of Modern Russia.
	The Menace of Unreality.
	How the Kremlin Weaponizes Information, Culture, and Money.
	And...
	Huh?
	It's like that's what they should be...
	That's what we do!
	It's funny because this report actually...
	And we've got it all marked up for you.
	Actually says exactly this, how we do it, but very, very small.
	And they show all of the stuff that Russia is doing.
	They talk about weaponizing...
	Information?
	Weaponizing money?
	Let me just read a little bit for you.
	Go ahead.
	It's just annoying because we do it so much better than the Russians.
	You'd think a genuine, honest report would say, look, here's the Russians that try to do a good job.
	We do such a great job to an extreme, especially with our own public, now that we can propagandize them into believing anything.
	Look how great we are.
	I mean, it's just always...
	I mean, I don't know if it's even a good idea to give the Russians any credit at all.
	Don't you think that's a mistake?
	Well, this whole document is giving the Russians credit.
	It has some recommendations on what we should do, which I would like to share with you.
	And that flows into the European Council on Foreign Relations white paper, Regime Change in Russia, which may be worth discussing for a moment.
	All published.
	They're all published.
	Since at least 2008, Kremlin, military, and intelligence thinkers have been talking about information not in the familiar terms of persuasion, public diplomacy, or even propaganda, but in weaponized terms as a tool to confuse, blackmail, demoralize, subvert, and paralyze.
	This is so nice.
	I love how they've done this.
	In the ongoing catastrophe in Syria, the Edward Snowden affair weakened the myth that Russia desired true partnership or alliance with the West.
	Then Putin's annexation of Crimea and his invasion of eastern Ukraine destroyed it.
	You get the idea.
	What?
	You get the idea.
	Yeah, I get the idea.
	It's a little slanted.
	Let's look at something they call the Kremlin Toolkit.
	Ooh, write that down.
	All they're doing is deconstructing ourselves.
	Yeah, the Kremlin toolkit.
	And assuming that they're doing the same thing, only poorly.
	The Kremlin exploits the idea of freedom of information to inject the disinformation into society.
	That's...
	Hello.
	The effect is not to persuade or earn credibility, but to sow confusion via conspiracy theories and proliferate falsehoods.
	Wow.
	That's what's going on.
	That's why our show's popular.
	The Kremlin is increasing in its information.
	We're weaponizing podcasting.
	This show is...
	I hereby declare this podcast...
	Weaponized.
	Weaponized.
	There's increasing use of social media to spread disinformation and trolls to attack publications and personalities.
	They literally took Hillary Clinton's techno experts and said, it's the Kremlin toolkit.
	Yeah, that's what it sounds like.
	Isn't this great?
	This is the find of the month.
	Unlike in the Cold War, when Soviets largely supported leftist groups, a fluid approach to ideology now allows the Kremlin to simultaneously back far left and far right movements, greens, anti-globalists and financial elites.
	The aim is to exacerbate divides and create an echo chamber of Kremlin support.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	Let me skip a couple here.
	What do we have?
	The Kremlin uses the open...
	What this says...
	I'm going to stop you again.
	I'll be stopping you.
	That's okay.
	You like the recording gun.
	I have to stop you.
	That's good.
	That's good.
	Stop me.
	What this says, the way this is worded, it says the following.
	Anyone who disagrees with this reports a commie pinko and is being duped by the Russians.
	That would, by the way, include the two of us reading the report.
	We've completely been duped.
	The weaponization of information, culture, and money is a vital part of the Kremlin's hybrid or non-linear war, which combines the above elements with covert and small-scale military operations.
	I like this, non-linear war.
	And with that, they're referring to the conflict in Ukraine saw non-linear war in action, which I think means they didn't really do it.
	Non-linear war.
	Funny, isn't it?
	That's great.
	It doesn't mean anything, but it means everything.
	The Kremlin successfully erodes the integrity of investigative and political journalism, producing a lack of faith in traditional media.
	I think the traditional media is doing a fine job by themselves.
	The Russians that have made the media suck?
	Totally.
	I don't think so.
	Offshore zones and opaque shell companies help sustain Kremlin corruption and aid its influence.
	Unlike anywhere else.
	Douchees.
	Okay, recommendations.
	not mackerel.
	Would you like some recommendations for the weapon?
	I need recommendations at this point.
	This is recommendations for the weaponization of information.
	We start.
	Transparency International for Disinformation.
	Here is the recommendation.
	The creation of an NGO, non-governmental organization, that we would create an internationally recognized ratings system for disinformation and provide analytical tools with which to define forms of communication.
	So we'll have a rating.
	The No Agenda Podcast is rated 5 on the disinformation scale.
	Wow.
	Well, There should be a disinformation charter for media and bloggers.
	Yeah, this is good.
	These are big think tanks.
	Who wrote this report?
	Who are the authors?
	You have to name them.
	I shall.
	I just don't want to scroll up because I don't want to lose my place.
	Top-down censorship should be avoided, but rival media.
	Top-down censorship is what they just described.
	It should be avoided.
	Just avoid that.
	But rival media, from Al Jazeera to BBC, Fox and beyond, need to get together to create a charter of acceptable and unacceptable behavior.
	Wow!
	Vigorous debate and disagreement.
	Just an abnegation of all journalistic principles.
	Yeah, but we'll have a couple of drinks.
	Oh yeah, well there's that.
	Vigorous debate and disagreement is of course to be encouraged, but media organizations that practice conscious deception should be excluded from the community.
	There goes the seed sales guy.
	A similar code can be accepted by bloggers and other online influencers.
	I think we may be online influencers.
	Probably.
	Counter disinformation editors.
	This is so good.
	I'm glad you asked.
	How about native advertising in this list?
	And we could do that.
	We are counter-propaganda editors.
	We are currently the number one counter-propaganda editors in the country.
	I'm going to skip a couple here.
	Public information campaigns.
	Stopping all disinformation at all times is impossible.
	Public information campaigns are needed to show how disinformation works.
	You know, I got an idea.
	You get some guy to draw cartoons on a YouTube video.
	With a voiceover.
	Arrows and stuff where somebody talks over it.
	Fucking annoying music in the background.
	Here's how disinformation works.
	You get the...
	RT, Kremlin, Putin...
	Public information campaigns are needed to show how disinformation works and shift the public's behavior towards being more critical of messages that are being buzzed at them.
	Targeted online work.
	Audiences exposed to systemic and intensive disinformation campaigns, such as the Russian-speaking communities in the Baltic states, need to be worked with through targeted online campaigns that include the equivalent of person-to-person online social work.
	Whatever the hell that means.
	It's like, you know, like a social worker comes up to the door.
	Hey, hey.
	And then asks you how your children are doing.
	We need to work on you.
	Yeah, that's the UK. The weaponization of money.
	Here's some recommendations from this fine think tank.
	Let's see.
	Libel fund.
	That's a bad sign right there.
	Yeah, wait for it.
	Financial and institutional support needs to be made available so that deep research can be carried out in the sensitive area where politics, security, and corruption meet.
	I think that's MSNBC. This needs to be backed by a fund for journalists who face potential libel litigation for the offense of doing their jobs.
	A non-profit organization based in Western Capitals modeled on Lawyers Without Borders but dedicated exclusively to defending journalists is long overdue.
	Maybe we should determine...
	Let's just do it and determine what journalists are first, okay?
	Is Sarah Lacey, she's a journalist?
	Okay.
	Is Adam Curry not a journalist?
	Target Offshore.
	I would say you're both journalists.
	That's right.
	A network of stringers in offshore jurisdictions is needed to carry out deep research into the financial holdings of Russian oligarchs and officials.
	Oops, don't trip on any American oligarchs while you're at it.
	And here's my favorite, crowdsourced investigations.
	It is in the interest of NGOs to enlist experienced bloggers, citizen journalists, Or adept social media users to collaborate on specific events or news stories that adhere to the same standards of empirical rigor used by traditional journalists.
	A handful of analysts armed with YouTube, Google Maps, Instagram, or foreign company registration websites can generate headlines.
	That's what the CIA does.
	So they are advocating...
	As something that is already...
	They want journalists to become...
	See, now in the olden days, the phony journalists that would go out and do this stuff, trying to get the regime changed, would get paid good money by the CIA. Now they want them to work for journalists.
	For free!
	Bloggers!
	Crap!
	This is the new economy.
	Hey, and while you're at it, while you are combating disinformation, do it in your car as an Uber driver.
	For the weaponization of culture and ideas, there's a few recommendations.
	Re-establishing transparency and integrity in the expert community.
	Let's see.
	A charter identifying clear lines between funders and research.
	That's not that interesting.
	They want an alternative to Val Dye.
	You recall Vol Dias where Vladimir Putin spoke very clearly about how he felt America, the United States, was behaving.
	We played some of the translations.
	They made it right out.
	That was never covered in the American media, we should mention.
	No.
	But these disinformation recommendations are not just for the United States.
	They're also for the Baltic states, etc., So the Valdi Alternative, a broad gathering, should be convened to bring together think tanks, experts, and policy makers to focus on addressing fears around the erosion of traditional religion and national sovereignty, then mainstreaming Russia's neighbors such as Ukraine, Georgia, and Estonia, in the debate about Russian policy, and engaging with swinging states.
	Such as the BRICS and other countries being courted by the Kremlin to join its anti-Western international with an E at the end.
	Overall, the struggle against disinformation, strategic corruption, and the need to reinvigorate the global case for liberal democracy are not merely Russia-specific issues.
	Today's Kremlin might perhaps be best viewed as an avant-garde of the malevolent globalization.
	Ooh!
	This whole report, and this is completely marked up, this is well worth downloading.
	Only 44 pages, but there is so much in here.
	And it truly...
	This truly shows how this is being slowly but surely propagated by Foreign Policy Initiative, FPI, which is the Kagan's.
	And by the way, our friend here, Kerchick, shows up in this report.
	Hold on.
	I had him highlighted.
	And here is Kerchick.
	Here we go.
	Meanwhile, the Kremlin has been attempting to make inroads into Britain's political establishment.
	Elite officials are hired as members of the boards of Russian companies.
	The 2002 federal election gave German-American relations...
	Oh, have German-American relations been so rocky?
	This is from American journalist and Germany specialist James Kirchick.
	Oh, that's interesting.
	Not only a gay specialist, but a Germany specialist.
	Oh, yeah.
	Bring up German gays and he's there.
	With all the other ones.
	And here's his little piece.
	Yeah, we are definitely dissociating ourselves from the Germans.
	While RT helps feed the American left, religious conservatives are seduced by Putin's anti-LGBT stance and libertarians like Rand Paul by the idea of a common enemy, the U.S. government.
	Rand Paul's a communist.
	Well, of course.
	Then there's, what's this piece?
	Ukraine, the advent of non-linear war.
	I'm going to send you this, John, because you'll never go to the show notes page.
	I'll send this to you in email.
	Oh yeah, here's another one.
	This is about Ukraine now.
	After the downing of Malaysian Airlines flight MH17, RT spread conspiracy theories regarding the cause, ranging from the flight being shot down by Ukrainian forces aiming at Putin's personal plane to Ukrainian development of Buk-Sams in the area.
	Uh, yeah.
	Fine.
	You know what?
	If you just release the black box, the flight recorder...
	Yeah, where's the black box?
	We could really...
	The black box has been in custody for how long now?
	A year?
	We could probably, you know, quit.
	No one has said anything about the black box, yet they write this kind of crap.
	This is ridiculous.
	These people should be ashamed of themselves, and then they keep running this propaganda on us.
	They should just do their own thing without screwing up the American public to such an extreme that everybody's confused and dazed, like they say, and the rest of it, all because Putin having Snowden.
	I'm still back on that.
	Yes, Putin having Snowden, but this really is...
	Oh, they'd love to get rid of Putin.
	Still cozy with Germany, for one thing.
	The European Council on Four Relations, regime change in Russia, just a few highlights.
	This is also a document highlighted in the show notes.
	Putin's third presidency is now being forced to rely more upon coercion than co-option.
	A shift in style so fundamental that it's possible to talk of Russia undergoing regime change.
	Despite the increasingly fertile ground for both political and economic dissatisfaction, Russia's opposition has so far failed to capitalize on it for several reasons.
	So now they're going into the mechanics of how you create a so-called color revolution.
	Then you recall there was a little bit going on a year or two ago.
	What was the color?
	They didn't even get to the color.
	They couldn't even get to the choosing of the color.
	And what happened then is Putin basically, I said basically, kicked out all the NGOs because he knows that's where it's coming from.
	And all of these groups have money from the National Endowment for Democracy and USAID.
	Oh, yes, true.
	Yeah, he knows what's going on.
	He said he outlined it exactly, and that should be the speech that Americans should listen to.
	So they know that these guys aren't being fooled by this nonsense.
	But the American public is.
	So the first reason it has not worked yet is these boneheads, as it says in this report, popular discontent has not been in sync with the electoral cycle.
	So they kicked it off at the wrong time.
	Yeah, they screwed it up.
	And if you really follow this closely, Putin's actually quite popular with the public.
	Hell yeah!
	And now they're hunkering down because we've decided that the latest trick up our sleeves, which will benefit, nobody has to really talk about it because the American public loves this, is they're going to sink the price of oil the way Ronald Reagan did to kind of bring Russia to its knees because they can't do a lot of things.
	I have a couple of reports on Russia needs at least $100 a barrel oil.
	That's a myth.
	Oh, that's not true?
	No.
	They do to explore the Arctic region.
	They need like $120 or something up there.
	But generally speaking, they're not...
	This is all the most disinformation out there is about what it costs to produce a barrel of oil and where you break even.
	And I remember a number of years ago while we were doing the show, and I think we had a clip where one of the Saudis said that we can make money at $10 to $20.
	I mean, that stuff just comes out and makes money.
	They'd like more money than that, of course.
	The Russian thing is probably...
	I mean, it took us to...
	We had to drop it down to 20 or something, I think, during Reagan's administration to get the Russians to fold.
	I think they're at 40 or 60.
	Easy.
	But here's some information that may or may not be good.
	On Konstantin, this guy Konstantin Semenov on RT was discussing this with the...
	And who was Konstantin Semenov?
	He is an oil consultant and he's some muckety-muck in Russia that knows a lot about the oil business.
	And this is the RT that's from the network in Moscow.
	It's simple.
	If Europe doesn't want to see Russian gas on its market, so what can we do?
	We try to knock on the closed door and it's very difficult for us.
	South Stream...
	Is more important for Europeans, not for Russia.
	Because, you know, without Russian gas, the situation in Europe will be extremely difficult.
	You are speaking about energy security.
	So we are trying to, you know, increase the security, energy security of Europe.
	And how does China feature in all of this, Russia's flourishing relationship with China and gas being delivered there via pipelines?
	We see the very fast acceleration of our negotiation with China.
	You know, we signed already so-called eastern route for China.
	38 BCM of annual supply to China.
	But now I think that next spring is possible to sign the Altai contract and so-called Western route and instead of 30 BCM it can be 100 BCM. So that is why it's a serious amount and you know for Gazprom it's also the question of choice.
	What is the priority?
	To build Altai?
	To build the power of Siberia?
	To continue to press on Europe, to explain, not to press even, but to explain to Europe the necessity of this pipeline.
	And what about the risk for Europe then?
	Because he's saying, look, you're taking on the risk yourselves.
	What kind of risk are we talking about?
	The idea is very simple.
	If Europe doesn't want to see the real energy security, because, you know, South Stream is a direct supply of Russian gas to Europe without any transit countries, if Europe We still want to have all this headache with Ukraine because, you know, we still don't know what will be the situation this winter with Ukraine.
	Yes, we signed this agreement in Brussels, but it's not working.
	Ukraine doesn't want to pay.
	The situation is still unpredictable.
	If Europe still wants to...
	See this very stupid situation.
	What can we do with this?
	Of course, we can eliminate this project, but we hope that Europe will be more clever because we don't want to go away from European market.
	We try to be one of the biggest suppliers to European gas market.
	So that is why the question of, we can say, the question to Europe.
	Europe is clever or Europe is not so clever.
	Yeah, this really, this South Stream thing is very interesting.
	And I know we've discussed it several times, but just to summarize, the European Union does not want these, you know, Serbia and, what is it, Hungary...
	And maybe even Moldova, I'm not sure.
	They don't want them to facilitate the South Stream pipeline without really being a European project, them being in control, because they want to create this energy union and have centralized purchasing of resources, which of course not every country wants.
	So this is all taking away the sovereignty of Europe and they're really slowing down the progression of the...
	The South Stream Pipeline, which by the way has Total Oil and BP and everybody's in that.
	Again, I keep thinking that maybe they're all just in on this.
	The losers is clearly going to be us, the citizens.
	That I know for sure.
	Well, it's going to be the citizens of Europe more than anybody else with this particular situation with Russia.
	I mean, we're not going to...
	There's going to be zero effects, I believe, in the American public by doing this action against Russia except for the Snowden thing.
	But the Europeans are going to take it up the butt if they can't get this Russian gas which is inexpensive by comparison.
	Well, not all Europeans.
	Germany will be just fine.
	Germany's fine because they got that north pipe that goes right there.
	Essentially, I said it.
	Yeah, you did.
	Right from Russia, right into Germany, here you go, which annoys us.
	I think this is the grand rebelization scheme.
	I think we'd like to see the Europeans get totally screwed, hosed, for whatever reason.
	Well, let's think logically in cycles.
	It's about time.
	Except instead of having the typical Germany attacks France, maybe just bleed them to death.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, no gas, no money.
	Your euro, we're going to kill that.
	Your central bank is clueless.
	There's nothing left to do.
	How about that?
	I think it's a possibility.
	I think it may be a possibility that Russia might be involved with some of the other actors, the true globalists.
	I don't know about these Kagan guys.
	They really want to replace them.
	I'll read two more paragraphs.
	There's little common ground for a positive strategy and a negative strategy based simply on the shared opposition to Putin.
	But the question is, revolution or evolution?
	Which will be the best course?
	I like that.
	Well, we managed to pull off a revolution in Maidan with our meddling going in, with giving out cookies, having the CIA guy roaming around, which to me was the most audacious thing we've ever done.
	And I've made the equation...
	And we must remember...
	Victoria Newland married into the Kagan family.
	She's the one that not only named the next government, named him, who was going to be in, who was going to be out.
	And made the infamous comment, which you have the clip of.
	Yeah, do you want the long one or the short one?
	The long one, it's so entertaining.
	I would like to point out the fact that she would say that.
	Yeah.
	Even in, you know, of course the Russians are the ones who obviously leak this.
	They're listening in like we do.
	And they all laughed about the great statecraft that was deployed.
	Yeah, and they cracked up and sent it out to the public.
	And so, okay, we're all listening to this woman.
	This woman who still has a job.
	Saying, fuck the EU. That isn't supposed to be a trading partner.
	It's supposed to be somebody we're working with.
	But she means this from the bottom of her heart.
	Yeah, no, she said it with anger.
	This is how these people operate.
	Yeah.
	And nobody has...
	And this is...
	I guess an I'm sorry worked in this situation.
	She didn't even say she was sorry.
	That's true.
	She never even said she was sorry.
	And this is okay.
	This is okay.
	Our government, our own government is pulling this stuff off and our representative is saying things like this to our trading partner.
	Yes, this is very good.
	We're at war with these people.
	This is good statecraft.
	Yes, we're at war with these people.
	Absolutely.
	We are.
	So let's rebelize them.
	Alright, to wind this up, we have Lavrov.
	If you just do a search for regime change Russia...
	I'll give you the most recent from Lavrov.
	He is the foreign minister from Russia.
	Saturday, 22nd of November, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov accused the West on Saturday of trying to use sanctions imposed on Moscow in the Ukraine crisis to seek regime change in Russia.
	Russian West sanctions against target Putin, not policy, Russia insists.
	That's right.
	I agree.
	The guy won't play ball.
	He won't give us that...
	Snowden.
	Snowden.
	I can't come up with his name.
	Give us freaking Snowden.
	Give us Snowden and everything's good.
	In the morning, says Rabba Sandlin, who will be mentioned later in a donation segment.
	This accompanies his donation.
	We have two yellow press newspapers in Finland.
	I'm just exaggerating a little bit when I tell you that Mr.
	Putin has been on every front page for at least a month now.
	Now, the man on the street will, of course, not realize that Putin is there, not because of something he has actually done, but that his face is used only to sell more newspapers.
	So, you know, remember we heard from Don that we are probably going to have some big summit in Helsinki with the Russians.
	And then really when I think about what Don said to me, my Uncle Don...
	He said that he regrets how he portrayed his feelings about Putin in the book and also in an op-ed that he wrote.
	And I'm thinking he knows that they're going to try and kick him out.
	And that's why he's very interested.
	Because Don, he's a guy who just wants the right thing to happen.
	And I would argue that it's better to have the guy, at least we know a little bit, versus some other jabroni.
	Can you imagine a new guy coming in?
	That would be horrible.
	Well, it'd have to be one of our guys.
	Yeah, well, if we had a true regime change, but I just don't see it happening.
	No, I mean, let's look at our track record here.
	Egypt.
	Libya.
	Regime change.
	Libya.
	Good example.
	The places now, unless we wanted to just go...
	That's fine.
	I mean, what is the other one?
	Tunisia kind of went back.
	That was, I don't think, I'm not sure we had anything to do with that.
	I think that just triggered our doing other stuff.
	Syria is a mess.
	And now we got the ISIS thing.
	Iraq is a joke.
	Yeah, we suck at this.
	Why are we trying to do this?
	Unless, of course, we just want to rebelize.
	I mean, although I can't hardly believe that.
	What's the point?
	Things will rebelize themselves.
	Well, obviously, part of what's happening, and I have some of the conversations I had in the lowlands...
	Everybody realizes the increased spending on military, as all of the NATO countries have now been given the message.
	We heard that from President Obama.
	He gave the message, hey, you are not putting your 2% GDP into NATO-coordinated militarization.
	And that, of course, benefits us.
	That's for our weapon industry, which is what we do.
	That's what we do.
	So you might as well have some bad guy who is clearly invading everything and everybody and is just a scary guy.
	He's going to get you.
	He's going to get you.
	So anyway, I thought it was kind of fun to combine the long nurtured meme of Vladimir Putin hates gays right into the Kagan camp.
	And into Radio Free Europe Radio Liberty.
	It truly is...
	No, it's well done.
	You know, they're not getting the...
	They don't do the...
	You know, it's like...
	Let me say not well done.
	It's well thought out.
	Yes, but I think execution is minor.
	I mean, this is not...
	You've got to do better.
	You've got to behead a gay guy.
	Chop his penis off.
	Something that...
	Beheading, because that meme is in the air.
	Yeah, we should do that.
	And her head is gone.
	Yeah.
	Well, our heads are still on at this point in time.
	I'd like to thank you for your courage in your deconstruction and say, in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
	And in the morning to you, Adam Curry.
	Also in the morning to all boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
	And in the morning, everybody in the chat room, noagendastream.com, good to have you all on board.
	Thank you to Baron Nussbaum.
	Who brought us the artwork for episode 673.
	I think we were low.
	Did we go to Evergreens?
	No, no, we didn't.
	No, we didn't.
	I'm sorry.
	No, it was there.
	That was the day before.
	673.
	And I use Nick the Rat for the newsletter.
	Right.
	This was Season's Beatings, which was a great one.
	Season's Beatings.
	Yeah.
	Oh, by the way, I'm seeing people now send us, based upon your newsletter, you've had two photos now of cruelty to animals.
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	Did you see our producer who sent us a picture of her cat?
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	She's being cruel to the cat.
	Oh, dressed up like a reindeer.
	Oh, that's just cruel.
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	And what she said, here's my cruelty to animals.
	Yeah.
	Animals do not like to be humiliated.
	No, I don't think so either.
	I think they like to be loved.
	No, they like to be fed.
	Hello.
	That's pretty much it.
	Just feed me.
	This program, which I believe was mentioned on NPR's morning edition Saturday, which I have not heard yet, but it was a podcasting story about advertising.
	So I presume they said...
	I talked to the writer of that piece and had long discussions.
	Oh, were you in there?
	Were you in the show?
	I doubt it.
	But whatever the case was, I did have influence on the piece, which I think is more important than actually getting a quote in.
	I'll tell you the story.
	This is not the only one going on.
	There's a bunch of this going on.
	Ever since that one article ran that one time, it's one of the big papers.
	Yeah, about Serial, the podcast.
	Yeah, that one.
	Yeah, it was Washington Post, I believe.
	Everybody, this is the way the news business works.
	Oh, must be a trending topic.
	And so everybody's doing these stories.
	And so NPR, when the New York Times, the ex-editor, I spent like hours with him talking about...
	Oh man, why do you do that?
	Why do you do that?
	You know they're only going to use like three words.
	It's only because I... There are a lot of reasons I do it.
	One, I get to know the guy.
	Two, I get some influence on his thinking.
	Not a lot, but enough to push things a little bit.
	I don't care if I... I've done enough of these things to know that if I get the one or two words, then that's fine.
	I don't care.
	I'm not into that.
	I'm into finding out what's going on so I can bring it to this show and say, here's what this guy's up to, and here's what you're going to expect from other news sources because I'm now part of the system, part of that Ah, yes.
	You are a go-to pundit.
	I'm a go-to guy.
	Anyway, any who, go ahead.
	You can say it.
	I was going to say it.
	You ring the horn or something.
	This guy was a, he's the NPR guy.
	He's not always on NPR. He does a lot of different things.
	And his whole thing was to start off by trying to figure out how much money people are making.
	And then he was really focused on Leo.
	Oh, interesting.
	And him and another guy, there's another third party that's doing this too, and I can't remember his name, but he was also focused on Leo.
	And they're trying to figure out if Leo is, you know, where Leo fits in the scheme of things.
	And in terms of understanding podcasting, because I think a lot of these guys realize that that thing we talked about, that guys are doing, that operation, what's the name again that you talked about?
	PRX, Radiotopia.
	PRX, whatever.
	It's not really podcasting.
	Well, they're doing podcasts, but it's really intended to make programming for NPR, for public radio.
	Yeah, it just happens to be repurposed as a podcast.
	It's not a true podcast.
	And one of the points I was trying to do when I was talking to all these people was to indicate what podcasting really is.
	And, you know, based on what it is, which is what we do, which is not produced for any other reason except for this market and to use the distribution network of the Internet.
	And to maximize that rather than doing multipurpose versions with a lot of overhead and that stupid sound they have and all the rest of it.
	But that's what they're – The orientation was Leo.
	It was really toward Leo.
	And I've been on Leo's show enough that I could talk to it.
	But the guy was...
	This is also interesting.
	The guy was also...
	But he's probably trying to figure out if he can make money and leave the stupid paper he's working for.
	Well, there's a little of that.
	That's what I find.
	There was a little of that with everybody.
	Everybody looks at this and they say, you know, it's one of these things when you're a writer and you say, this is kind of an interesting business.
	Let me talk to the CEOs of the top companies and see how much I can learn about this business.
	Maybe I can get a job.
	I'm a rule follower, right?
	What do you do?
	Are you a rule follower?
	Okay.
	And so the guys are looking at this trying to see if there's money to be made, but they sense they're journalists at a certain level, they're also looking for dirt.
	Of course.
	And so they're trying to get dirt from me.
	I think they would probably either find out that you could make a ton of dough and switch, or...
	Totally discredit that crap because it's competition.
	I think they're on the fence.
	Actually, I didn't think of that, but that's one of the things.
	Absolutely.
	Let's get some dirt on this and show that it's bogus and there's got no future.
	That element was in play.
	Absolutely.
	You're right.
	Yeah, of course.
	And just as a side note, I don't know where I saw it, but I... It must have been on...
	Crap.
	It was yesterday.
	At the corner of my eye, I started watching.
	Then it's Ira Glass and this little company.
	old hack from NPR.
	And they're so wrong about what they think.
	Let me just say pod show, okay?
	Pod show.
	It doesn't work.
	What you're trying to do is get venture capital money.
	I just had to back up.
	You jumped over the audience right there.
	I want to back you up.
	Okay.
	You're trying to discredit what they think is an operational model that was already disproven, but you didn't bring that into your explanation.
	You have to back up, and you said Podshow, and then you assumed everyone knew about Podshow and how it worked.
	Nobody knows about Podshow.
	Ben, and I prefer to erase that.
	Maybe I can get that forgotten by Google.
	So we had this company, started in 2005, and it was exactly this model.
	Semicolon.
	With a network of shows, with central services, including the selling of advertising space for your show, and distribution of money that comes in.
	The only thing they're doing different right now...
	Excuse me.
	I did a Kickstarter to get these other shows some money.
	Now, they got 10 shows.
	They raised $600,000.
	How long is it really going to last if you have more than one person producing on each show?
	I know the numbers.
	I've been down this route.
	Then you have to actually sell some advertising.
	When you are a show that has big press...
	Because of whatever decision Washington Post made.
	By the way, I think the show is good.
	I have no time to listen to it.
	But I hear a lot of people who really like it.
	It's an NPR style show.
	If you like NPR, you like it.
	Exactly.
	You're going to love it.
	So it has cachet.
	They don't necessarily have a true way to really report numbers.
	Well, they have just as official or bogative or correct as Nielsen or the Armitrons, but there's no officially sanctioned outfit that does that yet.
	That never came to fruition.
	So therefore, you can't really sell ads that effectively.
	But regardless, the overhead you create with the network in the middle is too big to sustain a network of shows.
	And quite honestly...
	You're going to be like a...
	You have to put in there old-fashioned style network.
	And it gets worse because...
	So the guys who are doing this...
	There's a couple of people starting this up.
	The guys who are doing this, here's what you're going to find out.
	Take it from me, okay?
	I've got the bullet wounds.
	One.
	You're really not going to enjoy meeting with venture capitalists who have given you money.
	They have these board meetings.
	They don't understand radio.
	They don't understand anything of what you're talking about.
	They just want to know how many registered users, how many ads have you sold.
	Eyeball.
	And you're going to have no numbers for them.
	It's going to be very difficult.
	Now, the horrible part...
	Is your network is going to become unhappy.
	You will have an entire team of people just to suck your producers off every day.
	And tell them, yeah, it's coming.
	Yeah, don't worry about it.
	Yeah, you're next on deck.
	Oh, well, this ad was only appropriate for these types of shows, not for those shows.
	So don't get all mad.
	It is not worth it.
	And in today's networked world, it is completely unnecessary.
	It's crazy.
	You do not need that.
	The only reason people will do this is because they're afraid they can't do it themselves.
	They're afraid of managing the money.
	They're afraid of doing their own PR. Oh, let somebody else do it for me.
	You used to be happy if you got on NBC or CBS or the ABC radio network because they had the only connection to the audience.
	That is why you had to do everything they said.
	That's why it made sense.
	They were the true gatekeepers of all things.
	The content and the money.
	And the antennas.
	Now that it's gone.
	You do not need this connection.
	At all.
	And, surprise, most people will never make a living in doing this.
	Because it's hard.
	It's radio arts and sciences.
	Arts and sciences.
	Alright, I'm done.
	Well, you didn't quite finish the story.
	No, because the point is, it's not going to work.
	It's just not going to work.
	Yes, I think that's what you did.
	And these guys are enjoying being in the limelight and everything.
	Oh yeah, they're big shots.
	They're network executives.
	Oh yeah, there's another one.
	These people, so people who are producers are going to join up.
	You are now about to join a group where the guys who hated the network executives are now the network executives.
	And they're going to do it different this time.
	Oh yeah.
	By getting back with all their frustration, we've vented on you.
	Yeah, that's exactly what happens.
	It's like one of those things where the job defines your personality.
	You can't get around it.
	So if you want to create a network and become a network executive because you can do it right, you become a network executive.
	You might as well work for NBC. You're going to be the same.
	At the end of the day, you're going to be that guy.
	You're a suit.
	We avoid that by not having a network.
	We have a stream of things that we put on, but we don't manage any of it.
	Yeah, we don't actually.
	Pretty much nothing.
	And this show is produced and done by us with nobody telling us what to do except the audience in a mass way, not in one guy complaining, although we listen to every individual complaint.
	That's why we try not to smack our lips.
	But we also demand, and I think we demand with cause, that people support this show, and we make arguments left and right why they should support this show.
	And if you want to do podcasting, you can't bring yourself to do that, because a lot of people can't bring themselves.
	Oh, God, I can't bring myself to asking for help.
	I would like to point out, ladies and gentlemen, this is the mark of a true professional who now segues into our donation segment.
	Well done.
	Well played, sir.
	That's a professional right there.
	If you can't bring yourself to do that, then yeah, okay, join some network and fail because that's what's going to happen at the end of the day because the model for making money and producing this has changed substantially.
	We should write a book about this.
	It works with us because we're a two-man operation with some ancillary help.
	We have lots of ancillary help.
	We have lots of ancillary.
	We have volunteers, we have artists, we have contacts, we have a network of intelligence gatherers all around the world, and we put it together and make a presentation for the producers who make the show work by helping us with...
	It's a collage.
	It's a collage of collaboration.
	It's a collaboration collage.
	That's right.
	I like that.
	I like collage of collaborations better.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so let's thank a few people, including our top executive producer for today's show, Sir Frank Asenstadt.
	It's been a while.
	I haven't heard from him in a long time.
	No, he hasn't been on for a while.
	56789, which is one of my favorite donations because there's a bunch of numbers in a row.
	It's easy for you to recognize numbers that are sequential, yes?
	Yeah.
	He's in Victoria, Australia.
	We've got one of our great Aussie producers.
	Hello, John and Adam.
	It's been a while, but finally time to step up and become a baron.
	So he's henceforth, I'd like to be known as the Baron of Stonington.
	Stonington, I think it is.
	I think Stonington.
	Double N. Stonington.
	Yeah, it would be Stonington, but Stonington just sounds so much better.
	Okay.
	To mark this occasion, I'd like a Reverend Manning, Iowa Oops Ottawa, and lots of boom shakalaka.
	A couple different clips, I guess.
	Love the show and the amazing analysis from you and the remarkable team of contributing producers.
	That's right.
	Regards, Frank Agenstadt.
	Baron of...
	You like Stonington?
	He wants it.
	He says Stonington.
	You're right.
	It's Stonington.
	Chloe, let me go to you first.
	What's the latest tonight in Iowa?
	Well, in Ottawa.
	You've got karma.
	laughs What a doob.
	Hey, a quick stop here because you always forget this crap.
	You are the peerage officer.
	We had a conflict.
	I told you Orange County was already taken.
	Yeah.
	And please set this straight.
	Yeah, we're back to what it was.
	He's got South Orange County.
	You got to name these people.
	I don't have it in front of me.
	And then the other Costa Mesa guy, he's got Costa Mesa.
	It just reverts.
	It wasn't like the biggest deal ever.
	I will have the exact names and the appearances.
	No, you won't.
	Yes, I will.
	Number, next on the agenda is, on the no agenda, Jason Kiefer in Tallahassee, Florida, $400.
	He sends a check in in a small envelope, checks inside, says $400 on the check, no note.
	There's just a silent Jason, we call him.
	And we want to thank him for that contribution.
	Hendrik Schmidt in Utrecht.
	Utrecht.
	Utrecht.
	3, 4, 5, 6, 7.
	You, too, do not just have a show.
	This is a media education.
	And in that sense, which we just did a long lecture, and I think that was somewhat educational.
	And there will be a test.
	And in that sense, you've been the most entertaining teachers.
	Please grant me some job, Carmen.
	My current work has given me an annoying skin disease.
	Oh, no.
	As with most of the modern ailments, a more relaxing state will do wonders.
	Adam, please consider running the Satan jingle from the house screamer more often than once.
	I don't think that's the right one.
	Oh, the house screamer.
	I like that.
	I don't know if that's the right one, though.
	Hold on.
	He's our house screamer.
	I like that.
	All the best from Ultrecht.
	Hendrik Schmidt, PR associate.
	Let me just see.
	I don't think we actually have.
	Let me see.
	What's this?
	We need a job karma.
	Yeah, I know.
	Satan!
	Isn't that you?
	No, but that's also not our guy.
	No, that's a different guy.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	You've got karma.
	Works for me.
	Yeah, it kind of works.
	Todd Moss, $300 from Tempe, Arizona.
	I have a note.
	He sent it in.
	He sent this check in.
	Adam and John, having just watched an excellent documentary on free speech and then listening to show 670, I want to again contribute to the best podcast in the universe, including that comet someone just landed on.
	I'm not sure what the connection is.
	Oh, the universe and the comet.
	Although I don't always agree with you.
	Now let's stop right here.
	Here it comes.
	We do not ask, require, or request, or even hope that anybody would agree with everything.
	We say we're not here to be agreed with.
	We're here to present things that may or may not be.
	The two of us don't agree on half of this stuff.
	We're not counterpoint all the time.
	No.
	And sometimes when we do agree, it's just that we're agreeing, but that doesn't mean you have to agree to anything.
	I really would like people to restrain from making this comment.
	That's all I have to say.
	Yeah, perhaps just not even...
	Yeah.
	Yeah, just drop it.
	We assume, we make an ass out of you and me, we assume that you don't agree with everything we say.
	I feel the show is very important in the otherwise failing world of journalism.
	We believe the same thing.
	Please keep up the great work and again, the drinks are on me if you catch me on one of the flights.
	This is Todd Moss, the flight attendant on...
	Southwest.
	Right, right, right, right.
	So if he sees us, and I was hoping to see him on the flight up to and from Seattle.
	The likelihood of you seeing him is pretty much zero.
	Yeah, it's not like they don't have a lot of flights.
	They don't even, you know, hang out with each other.
	Yeah, well, you might, you know, you never know.
	I did get recognized in the elevator at the Seattle airport.
	Oh, really?
	Yes.
	And Mimi.
	But recognize this who?
	As yourself?
	Yeah.
	From the No Agenda podcast?
	Or from the Windows Communications book?
	Eric, who has a bumper sticker on his truck, he came down to do some work.
	Which is wake up in the morning.
	I love those stickers.
	I wish you had more of them.
	Got a bunch of horn honks and in the morning people yelling.
	In the morning!
	Really?
	Yeah.
	I will say, I'm surprised at the type of people and situations where people throw out an in the morning to me.
	It takes me off guard.
	Yeah, because it's usually behind your back.
	It happened to us at the Costco up in Sequim, Washington.
	Somebody says it's in the morning.
	And then we turned around and couldn't see him.
	He disappeared.
	He shot around the corner or something.
	I'm not sure.
	Mimi was freaked out.
	Onward.
	Dave LaDouche in Malibu, California.
	23456.
	It's a trending way to donate.
	As usual, excellent deconstruction on the last show.
	Love the men lying for sex can be construed as rape bit.
	It's not a bit, unfortunately.
	No, it's a law.
	As the no agenda offer still stands for the film Aftermath playing in New York.
	You get a discount if you say in the morning.
	In the morning at the box office.
	Three bucks off.
	Uh...
	Thank you for your comedy and your courageous attempts to expose the truth.
	Wasn't this on the last spreadsheet?
	I don't know why it would be on it.
	He's donating again.
	I would like to say to read...
	Punch up his movie.
	Chris Penn's strong and final performance of A Simple Man on the Edge of Catastrophe in Anthony Michael Hall's dead-on portrayal of the epitome of an American alpha male is fantastic!
	The two men bring home a movie that's both exhilarating and terrifying.
	A metaphor for corporate America run amok.
	Well, I hope this thing comes out on DVD or shows up out here.
	But if you're in New York, go check it out and let us know.
	So you get to choose some clips.
	I know what you want.
	I'm not going to choose the Calypso clip.
	Oh, really?
	Okay.
	I would like to get Hidden with the Constitution from Reverend Manning.
	Oh, wow.
	Okay, that is whoop'em.
	Okay, let me see if I can do this for you, Mon.
	You can find it.
	Yeah, I can.
	Okay, anything else you want?
	Well, yeah, if you can find Teresa's daughter saying I'm 11 years old and even I can spot a douchebag.
	I always thought that was funny.
	I don't remember.
	It would be under Brooke, I believe.
	I don't remember that.
	Yeah.
	Brooke with an E? Yeah, I think so.
	Yeah.
	Girl.
	I might have to disappoint.
	Here's a crazy thought.
	Try and give me this earlier.
	Yeah.
	Brooke.
	No, I can't.
	Okay, don't worry about it.
	Just give me the manning is good.
	You've got karma.
	Got that one.
	Well, how about the Sharpton one where he goes and he just flubs and flubs of much?
	You mean resist we much?
	Yeah, resist we much.
	Okay.
	Oh, all right.
	Fine.
	We got that.
	That may be my absolute favorite.
	It's definitely...
	Now, this shit again.
	Sorry.
	I don't mean to...
	Okay, but there is something wrong with Apple's shit.
	But resist we much.
	We must and we will much.
	About that be committed.
	At least a million a year.
	And by the way, I want to refute something you said on the Dvorak Horowitz podcast.
	What did I say?
	Astronomical numbers for budget of this Al Sharpton show.
	No.
	I don't think he's making a million dollars at pay either.
	I really don't.
	Yeah, I think he is.
	No.
	We looked at his numbers, and you and I both did.
	You say for every...
	What were you saying?
	For every million viewers, it's a million dollars or something.
	You have some metric, which is just...
	I don't believe in that metric.
	Yes, the metric.
	The one everyone uses.
	Except for the people who worked in TV all their life, apparently.
	No, no.
	Okay, that's fine.
	I think your metric's off.
	Now, let me just quickly say what's wrong with Apple.
	When you use the spotlight search, which I... Don't use it!
	Well, it's very handy when you're looking through 10,000 clips to find Brooke.
	And it works very well.
	It finds relevant stuff.
	But then when you want to go...
	Apple has come up with this idea, oh, let's do tool tips and pop-ups for everything.
	Can't you turn that off?
	No.
	Well, wait a minute.
	Spotlight preferences.
	Thank you.
	Let me see.
	No.
	No, you cannot turn it off.
	Oh, that makes no sense.
	And then you can't drag it out of that list that appears.
	You can only open it with the application...
	Well, sometimes you can, but usually it opens up QuickTime.
	It's stupid.
	QuickTime, I don't know.
	You just disable it.
	When Steve died, that was the end of the company.
	It'll take a decade.
	It'll be fun to watch the thing sink when it finally begins.
	I've said that Apple looks to me like a short sale when the first store closes.
	Yeah.
	As long as they're expanding, I don't see a problem.
	Although I have to say, I do have an Apple...
	We can talk...
	When we get to tech news, I'll talk about it.
	At this rate, we'll never get there.
	Well, if I don't finish his list, Dave the douche has got his...
	Did you do Jason Kiefer?
	I'm sorry.
	Yes.
	I talked about how he just sent a check with 400 bucks in the envelope.
	There was nothing, no note.
	He sent an email.
	He did?
	Yeah.
	We both got it, don't worry.
	He has a whole thing we don't have to read on the air, but he does become a knight today.
	And that's correct because it's grey.
	Oh no, it should be blue.
	You know, if you're going to mail, it seems to me...
	You would put your note there.
	You would put a note in the mail with the check, or on the back of the check, even.
	That'd be kind of amusing.
	Okay, well, it's fine.
	It doesn't matter.
	We're all good.
	We're good to go.
	Okay, Dave Dadoosh is there.
	Kerry Radomsky in Beatty, Nevada.
	Maybe Beatty?
	Two, three, four, five, six.
	Beatty?
	Greetings from Beatty, Nevada.
	I think it's Beatty.
	It's not Beatty, it's Beatty.
	Okay.
	We've been listening for six months.
	We hit one another in the mouth, and now we need a de-douching for George and Kerry.
	You need a double de-douching.
	And then he makes a comment, or she, it says Kerry, makes a comment about how good I am on another podcast, which we won't mention on this podcast.
	You've been de-douched.
	There you go.
	George and Kerry.
	And finally, David Kaye in Tempe, Arizona.
	We lost Arizona in a football game.
	$200.
	I started a death penalty trial this week just in time for the holidays.
	He's apparently a juror.
	He may be an attorney.
	It could be.
	Yeah, it could be.
	Either one.
	And we'll need a big dose of please don't kill...
	Yep, no, he's an attorney because he once said, please don't kill my client karma.
	So he's an attorney.
	Thank you for everything you two do and keep up the great work.
	Well, let's give him some karma for that poor guy.
	He's got...
	He has to defend.
	You've got Carmen.
	I think here's an appropriate way to defend this.
	I think you should say, yes, my client would like to die, but it has to be a guillotine on live TV. I wonder if in one of these murder trials you can go, yes, my client pleads guilty with an explanation.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Then he would like to be killed publicly with a guillotine.
	There was big parties back in the day.
	Oh, yeah.
	Everyone would go to the square.
	They used to have hanging parties in the Old West.
	Yeah.
	Oh, big time.
	Yeah.
	Oh, fantastic.
	And we, the two of us, both believed this would be a hot TV show, reality TV. Wow, would it be?
	It would be fantastic.
	Yeah.
	Drama.
	It would go to somebody like Burnett's already got too much money.
	And then, yeah.
	No, he would just screw it.
	I mean, we would do it right.
	I don't see why we shouldn't do it.
	I mean, we see all kinds of killing on television.
	Why do we have to be ashamed of this?
	It makes no sense.
	We kill people.
	In Texas, we kill people.
	And we're killing it on this show.
	I would like to remind people that we do have another show coming up on Thursday.
	Go to Dvorak.org slash NA and continue your support.
	We appreciate it to no end.
	And these are the executive producer and associate executive producer credits.
	That's why they are earlier in the program.
	But these are the people that get the credits.
	It's like the titles that you see on every single Hollywood show.
	And these credits are accepted wherever they're valid wherever they're accepted.
	Of course, unlike the douchebags in Hollywood, we will actually vouch for you if you need that.
	Dvorak.org slash N-A Alright, just like our two producers there, we need you to go out there and propagate our formula!
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	You.
	Water. Order.
	Shut up, slave.
	Thank you.
	I have a little side bit here I want to just discuss for a second.
	Play the clip.
	I don't have the beginning of this, but I have this woman, I think she's Elvira King, a nephew of Martin Luther King, and they're talking about the churches.
	It was on Dana, one of the shows on The Blaze.
	All of a sudden, it triggered a thought.
	I just want to say, it's not very healthy for you to be watching The Blaze a lot?
	Yeah, I know it's not.
	I don't like watching it.
	It's Ferguson.
	Especially when they get to the prayer meeting, it's really totally annoying.
	Ferguson with Elvira.
	Yeah, I got it.
	99% of the arrests were people who, some of them weren't even from the state of Missouri, and they definitely weren't even from Ferguson.
	Right.
	And the next day, there was the Christian fraternity that came out.
	And they did not send a press release.
	Nobody knew they were out.
	People just happened to be out and about taking photos of these young men cleaning up the neighborhood.
	And young families came out.
	And I thought, you know, it's like after there's a horrific wildfire.
	And then you look at the ground.
	We're at the dinner table and we discuss, and Eric keeps up with a lot of this stuff, Eric DeShiel, and he mentions the same thing that we've mentioned before, which is the guy was shot in his car trying to get his registration, shot in the head by a cop, the 12-year-old kid with his BB gun shot.
	None of this gets any attention except Ferguson.
	And so I'm thinking now that maybe it's Ferguson, not anything else, that is this nexus for some reason.
	You know that the Keystone pipeline runs right under that sucker?
	You're kidding me.
	Ha!
	What?!
	I was thinking about that.
	I'm looking at, there's an offshoot of the Keystone Pipeline that runs right through St.
	Louis and Nick's Ferguson.
	And I'm thinking, when I'm looking at all the rioting and all the stuff that goes on there, why is it just that one block that was burned to the ground?
	It was not widespread.
	How widespread was this rioting?
	It seemed to be focused in one part of the area, and they burned everything to the ground.
	I'm thinking either a real estate scam, right away scam.
	Yeah, right, exactly.
	So we've got to get some right-aways.
	We've got L Sharpton coming in.
	They bring all these punks in.
	And now they distract us.
	They decide that, okay, now we've got that out of the way.
	We've got the Ferguson thing taken care of.
	Of course, the Keystone Pipeline has got something to do with it because it's too much of a coincidence.
	So we end up with this clip, which is the stupidest thing.
	And it's a complete distraction, almost as though professionally done because all the signs in all the areas, especially in New York City, were all done by some one company.
	Hands up.
	Don't shop.
	Are you kidding me?
	The report comes just days after the grand jury decision not to indict a Ferguson, Missouri police officer in the shooting death of an unarmed black teen, Michael Brown.
	The decision is still sparking nationwide protests, many targeted at Black Friday shoppers.
	Hands up!
	Hands up!
	In New York, protesters gathered at the iconic Herald Square Macy's.
	Some protesters were arrested, accused of blocking the entrance to the store.
	In Seattle, protesters blocked shoppers at malls in the downtown area.
	Some stores were forced to close early.
	One person was arrested.
	Five others were arrested at another protest in Seattle.
	And this disruption in Oakland involved trains.
	Protesters blocked both entrances to the local transit system and the trains themselves.
	Service was halted for hours.
	14 people were arrested there.
	And that wasn't professionally organized, was it?
	I'm reading up on the pipeline going through Ferguson.
	Good.
	Wow.
	And how did Eric come to this knowledge?
	He didn't come to it.
	I did.
	It was when he was complaining about the same thing that JC was complaining about.
	I kept thinking, what about all these others?
	You know, the number of people he...
	Eric had the one who's so many people shot in Chicago since the Ferguson shooting.
	It's ridiculous.
	All blacks by the police and by blacks.
	Yeah.
	And the police, and nobody cares about any of this, so it's not about the shooting.
	It's about Ferguson.
	We finally say, oh, what's special about Ferguson?
	And so then I see there's one of the pieces of the Keystone Pipeline runs right through, it's kind of like in the St.
	Louis area, and it appears that Although when you try to research the exact place where this pipeline runs, even though it's in or near Ferguson, there's all kinds of obfuscations.
	If you look up pipeline route, you'll find freedom of information acts that have been refused.
	There's a whole series of documents that won't tell you where this thing runs because there's real estate involved here.
	There's money to be made by knowing where this thing's going, where it's coming from.
	Wow.
	It's the only explanation.
	That's why Ferguson's a big deal.
	And now they're trying to distract us with hands up, don't shop.
	And Sharpton's part of this.
	He's got something going on.
	I'd love to get some documents of what these guys own.
	You've got me going down the rabbit hole here, man.
	Well, I'll do it later.
	Holy crap.
	Good one.
	Thank you.
	So it's about Ferguson.
	Wow.
	But they didn't kill the kid just to get this started, I presume.
	No, I don't think so.
	I think it's opportunism.
	Right.
	You could, if you wanted to...
	Because there's other kids being killed constantly.
	This was opportunism, and maybe they did kill him to get this started with all the phony...
	Oh, cops stood over him and shot him in the back.
	Hey, hey, hey, hey!
	Get off my beat.
	I'm the crackpot.
	Yeah, well.
	Second half of the show.
	But it could happen anyway.
	I came back to this.
	The officers noticed that the subject was wearing some type of vest.
	At that point, you know, being the fact that we were dealing with possible improvised explosive devices, they backed away from the suspect.
	And at this point, we formed a perimeter.
	And we are working through that process right now.
	Our bomb squad is on scene.
	Can you guess where this happened?
	No.
	Trying to ascertain the nature of the potential explosive devices that any actions will be needed to render them safe.
	At this point, we believe that the suspect is deceased, but given the...
	This is Austin, downtown Austin.
	Oh, right, yeah, Austin's got some action.
	Yes, a Mexican guy got all crazy about immigration or something and went to downtown at 2 in the morning with some kind of vest.
	Yeah, it was probably, you know, a vest.
	You can hear the cop going, oh crap, man, there was a sweater.
	And it killed him.
	So, you know, you won't hear about that.
	And guess what?
	White cops probably killed the Mexican guy.
	You could turn that into something if you wanted to.
	Hold on, I got something here on the Tumblr.
	Let's see.
	John, you really made me crazy with that.
	Okay.
	Stop me from researching Ferguson.
	Yeah, let's get on to something else.
	Whenever you get a pipeline, maybe you drive me nuts.
	Pipelines!
	Don't you have a jingle for that?
	Yeah, we do.
	Hey, Hagel.
	I did a little bit of research into Hagel, Secretary of Defense of the United States, who got kicked out.
	I think the reason why I started looking at it is because you said you thought it was Valerie Jarrett that kicked him out.
	No, Susan Rice.
	I think you said Jarrett.
	You meant Susan Rice, yeah.
	But you said Jarrett.
	It's easy to confuse her.
	I believe that she is probably really the power there that would give the go-ahead.
	Possibly.
	I don't think Susan Rice is anything more than the twerp that she is.
	You know, just a little...
	Me, me, me, me, me, me.
	So this is very interesting because Hegel, you know, the Secretary of Defense, that is the main head honcho who is really coordinating the creation, sales, export of our military-industrial complex.
	So he was kicked out, and the reason why is this memo that he sent to Susan Rice.
	Oh, okay.
	Did you know about the memo?
	I don't.
	I don't think.
	Maybe I do.
	I don't recall it, so read it.
	We don't have it.
	Of course, FOIA requests have gone out, but apparently he wrote a blunt assessment of U.S. policy in the region, Middle East.
	Oh, it probably was critical of her.
	Yes, expressing concern about overall Syria strategy.
	His memo conveyed to Ms.
	Rice that the U.S. needs to quote, have a sharper view of what to do about the Assad regime.
	Combined with continued resistance to ISIL on the ground, indicators are these strikes have slowed.
	So his memo was pretty much, I don't think it's a good idea that you want to go and, you know, how do you want to do this, I think is really what he is saying.
	This guy's operational.
	He never should have been in the job in the first place.
	He's operational.
	The guy has been wounded in war three times.
	So he knows war, but he doesn't know Washington.
	Now, what is interesting is who's going to fill that spot.
	And I find it curious that Hegel was let go to pursue outside interests.
	To pursue interests outside the country.
	Without a replacement.
	Mr.
	Curry is leaving the company to pursue outside interests.
	Well, I guess he maybe doesn't have a family he can spend more time with, which is usually what they do.
	So there was no...
	Direct follow-up appointee.
	But we did have an appointee, and this is Michelle Flournoy.
	Flournoy.
	Yeah, we played this clip about how she immediately didn't want the job because she didn't want to get caught in the crosshairs.
	Now, she is the founder, CEO of another group we've got to take a look at, John.
	You will want to go to this website.
	The Center for a New American Security.
	Because...
	And that is CharlieNovemberAlphaSierra.org.
	And you will want to go to the People section.
	Now, on deck for possible...
	Secretary of Defense is General John R. Allen, who has been named by the President as the ISIS Tsar.
	He's the guy that was having the affair.
	Yes!
	The affair with the chick.
	That was busted by Hastings or something that got...
	Well, it was all connected to Petraeus.
	Right.
	Petraeus scandal.
	Get Petraeus out.
	Right.
	And he had that mistress down in Florida.
	Now look at this...
	You know why I think they finally had to get rid of Petraeus?
	Because no matter what they did, they couldn't get him through the metal scanner without it going off.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Let's look at who...
	So this is the group to watch.
	They call themselves, quote, an independent non-partisan...
	You want me to look at the board of directors?
	Yeah.
	Board of directors?
	Well, if you go to the people page, you got everything.
	Board of directors is fine.
	Board of directors.
	So there's Alan.
	Oh, yeah.
	Armitage.
	There's Armitage.
	Yep.
	We've got...
	There's Michelle Flournoy.
	Wow.
	Nathaniel Thicke from Endgame, Inc.
	There's Flora Noe.
	She's the CEO. We got Danzig from the Rand Corporation.
	And look, Lieberman.
	Now, I'm going to call it.
	Lieberman?
	What the hell's he doing there?
	He's the war guy.
	This is the war team.
	He's the John McCain representative.
	Let me tell you, put it in the book.
	Lieberman for Secretary of Defense.
	Put that in the book, baby.
	Remember, and remember, I'm from the future.
	This is a good call.
	I'll give you like a 10 point.
	I'll give you a ding for that one.
	I think that's a great call.
	He's the perfect guy.
	Yeah.
	And whoever's going to be sec def, as we say, whoever's going to be sec def, let's do Washington speak, has to be someone who's pre-approved by McCain, otherwise we'll never get through confirmation.
	And McCain and Lieberman, they're like...
	I gave you kudos on that one.
	Butt buddies.
	Yeah, they're total butt buddies.
	That and that crazy woman from Kelly A-Hole, or whatever her name is.
	A-Hole, yeah.
	Let's look at the Board of Advisors.
	We got the guy from Ford.
	David Schwimmer from Goldman Sachs.
	Oh, yeah.
	Peter Schwartz from Salesforce.
	Wow.
	Look at the Board of Advisors.
	Ford Motor Company.
	Harvard University.
	Duke University.
	Center for Strategic and International Studies, of course.
	Another Rand Corporation.
	Harvard.
	Mm-hmm.
	Boeing.
	Princeton.
	Morgan Chase.
	Yeah.
	Everybody's there.
	Princeton.
	Kennedy School.
	Huh.
	Of course, the Board of Advisors is bullcrap.
	They never have...
	That is a drinking club.
	Well, but it's important to have Boeing on board and everything so that they...
	Yeah, you gotta put their names up there.
	And the Emeritus people that used to be there...
	Madeline Albright, number one.
	William J. Perry from Stanford.
	Uh-huh.
	Yeah.
	So this is the war.
	Let me read their little thing here again.
	Century for a New American Security, which is pretty much Project for a New American Century.
	I mean, it's just reversed.
	An independent, nonpartisan, nonprofit organization that develops strong, pragmatic, and principled national security and defense policies.
	So they developed the policies.
	And they developed the policy that Hegel had to go because he was not on board with the entire program of taking over Syria, rebelizing the Middle East, screwing Putin, ramping up NATO. Whatever it was, he just did not do it right.
	And when I saw Lieberman on this, I'm like, that's the guy.
	And the only other...
	I mean, I don't think it's going to be Allen.
	It won't be that guy.
	No, no.
	Too much is too hard to do.
	I think your thing with McCain, because Lieberman's McCain's guy, and he'll...
	Yeah, McCain will want him.
	Unless Lieberman doesn't want to do it.
	But Lieberman is an egomaniac.
	He'd love to do it!
	Were you kidding me?
	Yeah, I know.
	Hey, it'll be good for the show.
	Lots of...
	Crazy quotes from that moron.
	By the way, I got a link in the show notes to the McCain Twitter feed with the actual photo on his own Twitter feed of Baghdadi.
	I don't think that would be a doctored photo.
	Huh.
	Yeah.
	I'll look at that.
	Yeah, it's in the show notes.
	I'm looking at the publications of this operation.
	They have to be dynamite.
	Oh, yeah.
	In April, they did Opportunities for American Influence in the Changing Middle East.
	With Leon Panetta Fellow, Dr.
	Daphna Hockman Rand examines U.S. influence in the Middle East and considers whether U.S. efforts have moved the decision-making of MENA leaders in a direction more favorable to U.S. interests.
	Yeah, this is the right group.
	These guys are...
	It's a beautiful outfit.
	This is a...
	Well, what's interesting, if you go back to the list of publications again, the one that is more the newest, they have a policy for de-escalating.
	How this ends, this is November 6th, the blueprint for de-escalation in Syria.
	How the hell to get out of there?
	Deputy Director of Studies and Leon Panetta Fellow Dr.
	Daphina H. Rand again.
	Research Associate Nicholas Harris argue for the importance of focusing on a political framework for de-escalating the civil conflict in Syria.
	That would be worth a read.
	It offers a number of principles and practical steps that will build on U.S. train and assist efforts with the moderate Syrian opposition fighters.
	Okay...
	We are doing this.
	An effort to integrate a political strategy.
	Aren't we already doing this?
	Well, probably.
	I don't know.
	This probably just confirms a few things.
	But the one that's even more interesting is the latest one.
	Autonomous weapon systems at the United Nations.
	Are they at the United Nations?
	I don't know.
	And here's a strategy for defeating the Islamic State.
	Okay, we've got to read.
	Thank you.
	There's malware on this page.
	Oh, really?
	According to the Avast web shield, it's blocked the harmful web page, which is on the...
	I wouldn't be surprised if this...
	Check it, check it, check it.
	What is it?
	Look at the thing.
	What does it say?
	It says the infection is...
	Oh, there it goes.
	It just went off.
	It blocked it, whatever it was, but it's something called MAL. It's some piece of code that they didn't like.
	Uh-huh.
	It's probably just a tracker.
	Let me see if I can reset and see what it does.
	I have my tracker off.
	Well, I can do it CNAS.org.
	I can do it on this other machine where I have the...
	It didn't come up.
	I like Ghostery.
	Yeah, well, Ghostery is interesting.
	It just shows you everything that's hooked up to it, but it doesn't necessarily show you malware.
	Let me see.
	Would Ghostery find...
	No Facebook, Google, add this, nothing else.
	No malware found.
	Okay, let's keep our eye on these douchebags.
	Yeah, douchebag alert.
	Big douchebags.
	Oh, I have something that I clipped for you just to irk you.
	Really?
	Then I get to play something first.
	Okay.
	This is just a random clip.
	It's got nothing to do with anything.
	I think it may have some of the...
	You're going to hear a woman who's in her 50s making the sound.
	This is a race finishing clip with a woman making a sound.
	She's in her 50s.
	For most of the people in this Clearwater foot race, the victory isn't so much in the winning as it is in the finishing.
	Woo!
	Baller Baller!
	Woo!
	Yeah, now, she is a definite candidate to be voted off the island when the time comes.
	It's just like, why do you make that sound?
	Yeah, women have been programmed into doing this.
	It's only recent.
	When I was a kid, that sound didn't exist.
	No, I know.
	They had other things.
	Alright, this is a report from, I think it was NPR, and I don't think they realize the irony of Of their report.
	This is Millennials in Medicine.
	Now, maybe we should just reiterate briefly, A, what a millennial is, which is kind of an age group.
	Was it born after 89, I think?
	No, it was, I think it's 85.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	And the millennials are self-entitled.
	You know, there's a lot of problems.
	Not all.
	No, not by a long shot, not all.
	But in general, as a group, but like we talk about the baby boomers or Gen Xers.
	Yeah, and they're also hipsters.
	Yeah.
	So this is a report, a rather long report, looking at...
	And I think it's very troubling.
	A, how they were following their medical education.
	And this is UT, by the way.
	It's my backyard here, University of Texas.
	And what their view is of practicing medicine.
	And I think we can say, you and I can agree, that today's...
	Healthcare providers, as they're known, and that is what doctors are called by the insurance companies, healthcare providers, they're pretty much going to just follow the rules and hand out the medication.
	And what I didn't clip in this report is that pretty much no millennials want to be a specialist.
	They want to be general doctors, which really falls under this category of healthcare providers.
	That's interesting.
	Yes.
	Here is how our subject, I think her name is something Ho, funny enough.
	How she is studying to become a doctor.
	Meet the next generation of doctors.
	The University of Texas Southwestern Class of 2014 is celebrating graduation.
	Class Vice President Amy Ho has shed her scrubs for heels and a black dress.
	She says with modern technology, med school really wasn't that hard.
	If you want to do the entire thing by video stream, which I decided to do, you can.
	So I'd wake up at 10, work out for an hour or so, get some lunch, and then video stream for like six hours, and then go out to happy hour.
	It actually was not that bad.
	Hey, that's going to be your new doctor, John.
	Oh, God.
	Your new doctor.
	Uh-huh.
	Uh-huh.
	I feel...
	Feeling bad already?
	That's terrible.
	That's a depressing clip.
	It gets better.
	Of course, the Millennials have grown up with the Internet.
	And they have new means and ways to research their medical cases.
	Millennial doctors want offices that are high-tech.
	Many have never worked with paper charts.
	And they don't read dusty medical journals.
	They look at them online.
	We absolutely consult Wikipedia, not the library, to find the most up-to-date medical research.
	They consult the Wikipedia?
	For the most up-to-date medical research.
	Is that the most frightening?
	No, that comes right after I'm from the government.
	I'm here to help.
	We absolutely consult Wikipedia to get the most up-to-date information on medical research.
	Oh, okay.
	This is just a joke that you're playing.
	No.
	Onion.
	You got an onion.
	Yeah, you got suckered.
	Nope.
	Nope.
	It was a 10-minute piece.
	Now, this is a final piece, which is, I think...
	This is on NPR, you say?
	Yes.
	This is very troubling, this.
	So part of the millennial generation, if you look at the generalization of the millennials, is they all want to share the burden.
	Work together.
	It's a sharing economy.
	Economy.
	It's a sharing economy.
	Let us share patience.
	We can hand it off and share patience, which is really...
	If you've ever been sick, or, you know, Mickey with her thyroid, you know, that's a good example.
	When...
	When you have a whole bunch of people involved, everyone has an opinion, and they don't communicate, and it's not necessarily a good thing.
	In fact, I'll give you my analogy.
	If I'm flying a helicopter, I want to know exactly whose hands have been on it, and it better not be more than one pair of hands with an assistant pair of hands.
	You get six guys that are working on a helicopter, I'm not going to fly it.
	Sharing patients, working less, the hope is that physicians won't burn out as fast.
	But some baby boomer doctors say practicing medicine with this kind of sharing economy approach could be bad for patients' health.
	If you are having too many handoffs of care between one physician and another physician and another physician, which you can easily have with shift-based work, it's almost like the game that you played when you were a kid, that you whisper a sentence going around a circle.
	And see how screwed up it gets by the end of the game.
	It's like that, only way more dangerous.
	Yeah, I told you the old story of the nurses on the graveyard shift like to up the oxygen on everybody so nobody croaks during their shift.
	Don't die on me now.
	And then they turn it down when the morning shift comes in.
	Yeah, this is just a little more upsetting to me because it truly shows that...
	This is where it's headed.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Medicine is just...
	It's going to be another, you know, like an Uber driver.
	It'll end up being taken over by the Chinese who will come over here in droves because these are idiots.
	You've played a clip of Noodle Boy as a doctor.
	Yeah, Noodle Girl.
	Noodle Girl.
	Whose name is Ho.
	Oh, I watch Wikipedia.
	I watch videos for six hours.
	I work out.
	I have lunch.
	Then we go get plastered.
	Nice.
	Nice work if you can get it.
	No, that's where it's headed.
	That's a good one.
	It's almost a clip of the day, but no.
	A little too depressing.
	I got one here that just came to mind when I was driving around, because I drove from Port Angeles to the Seattle SeaTac Airport.
	You have a rental car?
	Yeah.
	You had an FJ, a crazy-looking Toyota.
	Anyway, this came to mind, and I have the clip here, because I think this clip triggered the thought, because I'm going to ask you a question afterwards.
	It's not ask Adam, just a question.
	Play the hostages and ransoms clip.
	This is a clip that is about...
	The known fact that the American government will not pay money to any terrorist kidnapping, and if you wanted to pay your own money, they'll make you a felon and throw you in jail.
	The United States has set a heart-rending but absolutely necessary example.
	Are you playing a Carrie clip?
	It's not Carrie, it's just Carrie.
	By refusing to pay ransom for captured Americans.
	And all of the evidence shows that where and if a country has paid a ransom, there are many more people who are taken hostage.
	According to the U.N. Security Council's Counterterrorism Committee, an estimated $120 million in ransom was paid to terrorist groups between 2004 and 2012, including between $35 and $45 million to ISIL. Republican Representative Duncan Hunter has accused the Pentagon's Joint Special Operations Command of leading a botched effort to pay a ransom to gain the freedom of Army Sergeant Bo Bergdahl,
	who was held by the Akani Network, a group designated a terrorist organization by the U.S. Hunter, in a letter to outgoing Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel, quoted sources as saying a payment was made to an Afghan intermediary who disappeared with the money and failed to negotiate Bergdahl's release.
	It's an allegation the Pentagon denies.
	I would tell you that, and we've said this before, there was no ransom offered.
	There was no ransom paid.
	But Kirby acknowledged there is a gray area in U.S. policy.
	The Pentagon or CIA will pay sources for information about the whereabouts and condition of U.S. captives.
	On occasion, to obtain information, sometimes in the field, there are such exchanges.
	Pallets of money, I tell you.
	Pallets of money.
	Millions of dollars on wooden pallets.
	That's a fact.
	In Britain, the government is seeking to stop British insurance companies from reimbursing families who've paid ransoms to free hostages held by terrorists.
	While the White House says the review of its hostage policy will not change its ban on ransoms, families of hostages want other changes.
	I am so delighted that it's being revisited.
	All I would ask is that families be invited to the discussion.
	Diane Foley, mother of James Foley, says while her son was being held, she faced a bewildering bureaucracy where no one seemed to be accountable.
	But there appeared to be no one who could share any information with us or advocate for Jim's situation.
	So it was a very lonely experience.
	The White House says the review will focus on how the U.S. government manages itself in hostage situations and how the many agents involved communicate with the families of the victims, many of whom say they feel abandoned by their government and left with agonizingly few options.
	Well, yeah, because, you know, this is all set up and it's all fake.
	Bandoned by the government.
	I think, oh, we're supposed to be, oh, we do whatever we can for Americans.
	Okay, here's the question.
	So, you know, now that you have all the background.
	I've got all the background.
	Bill Gates is kidnapped by a terrorist group.
	Mm-hmm.
	The world's richest man.
	Yes.
	What happens?
	Fuck him!
	Sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	It's a Tourette's.
	I can't help it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, well, yeah.
	All right, question answered.
	I mean, let's be honest.
	That's exactly what they're saying.
	That's what the answer would be.
	Yeah.
	What bullcrap.
	This is lies.
	Yeah.
	And that State Department spokeshole, that guy's terrible.
	Oh, no, the Defense Department guy?
	He's terrible.
	Oh, the Kirby?
	Yeah, Kirby.
	He's terrible, that guy.
	Yeah, he's no good.
	Okay.
	That's it.
	Just a little point.
	Just making a point.
	A couple of things going on today.
	We have...
	Let me see.
	Do I have it here?
	We have over in...
	First, we have Moldova referendum today voting to see if they want to be...
	If they want to align themselves with the EU or with Russia.
	So that could be interesting.
	Moldova is kind of a crappy...
	I don't think there's much going on, but...
	It's a hellhole.
	I don't know if we have any listeners from Moldova.
	I doubt it.
	It'd be nice if we did.
	I don't think they have radios.
	Let's see what we got.
	Switzerland is voting today.
	Landlocked between Romania and the...
	Okay, it's because of Ukraine being...
	That's part of it.
	Yeah.
	It only has 3.5 million.
	Switzerland votes today about whether they should beef up their gold and have 20%.
	Maybe I have a clip of this.
	I don't think I had a clip.
	But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	The Save Our Swiss Gold Initiative would require the Swiss National Bank to A.
	Hold at least 20% of its assets in gold within five years.
	B. Be banned from selling any of its gold reserves.
	And C.
	Take back all Swiss gold that's being held overseas.
	Supporters of the bill say it will give security and independence in uncertain times.
	Gold Initiative, ja.
	Another popular slogan is to protect the people's wealth.
	Opponents of the bill, which include the government, say the country wouldn't be able to exercise monetary policy freely, and the cost of buying 1,500 tons of gold over the next five years would be immense.
	It's very noticeable that all countries now are saying, let's get our gold back, and let's make sure we have the gold.
	Where's the gold?
	Everybody wants the gold back.
	I'm looking at this Moldova thing.
	So at the eve of the vote, one pro-Russian party was banned from the poll.
	The move criticized.
	So we've got our fingers in this deal.
	Of course we do.
	Yeah.
	But look at the strategic location of Moldova.
	Yeah, it's right there.
	Right there where you want us.
	Or where you want to be.
	Listen, they got these new nesting dolls, you know, those babushka things, those dolls.
	Yeah, those doll and doll and doll.
	Doll and doll and doll.
	Yeah.
	And they get the one where the outside person is Obama.
	Because if it's done right, the little bitty twerpy one at the very inside.
	You go, Obama, Jarrett, Michelle, twerp.
	That would be great.
	It'd have to be Obama.
	Let's see what it would be.
	Not to waste a lot of time, but Biden would be number two.
	No, no, no.
	Jared is number two.
	Please.
	Jared.
	Then Michelle.
	Come on, let's do the true powers.
	Okay, Jared.
	Then Michelle.
	And then Michelle's mom.
	The mother-in-law who lives in the White House.
	And then Biden.
	How about it?
	Biden then, after that?
	No, Biden has no power, man.
	Then you go to Rice, you go to power.
	No, no, you gotta have the secretary of something or other.
	Kerry!
	Okay, Kerry.
	But he won't fit with a head.
	Pretty hard to fit.
	Half a head.
	Just a head.
	Just a head, not the whole body, because he can't fit it in.
	Just his head.
	And then what do you got after that?
	We got one, two, three, four, five.
	If you do a six nester, you could probably do Susan Rice as the little...
	Yeah, the little bitty one has to be Susan Rice.
	That's the only thing that makes sense.
	Just to be funny.
	Oh, Power.
	Samantha Power.
	Samantha Power.
	All right, can I move on?
	Yeah, I'm sorry.
	I'm just giving this idea out there.
	Public domain so you can make these dolls and I'll buy one.
	Now, as you know, being from the future, I correctly predicted who the Pope would be.
	Pope Francis.
	Yes, something you'd like to mention.
	Well, it was one of my finer moments.
	It was great.
	So I follow the Pope on Twitter, but I also just follow what he's doing.
	And he was in Europe.
	What is he doing?
	Well...
	He said some interesting things.
	He addressed the European Parliament.
	I was in Strasbourg, which is kind of the chic, you know, we don't go to Brussels, that's for commoners.
	He alluded to a general, I have no audio, of course, and he speaks in, does he speak Italian or Latin?
	What do they speak?
	No, nobody speaks Latin.
	He alluded to a general impression of, quote, aging and weariness in Europe, and that a new spirit should be built where humans are treated not as programmable objects.
	Here it is.
	In many quarters, we encounter a general impression of weariness and aging of a Europe which is now a grandmother, no longer fertile and vibrant, which means barren.
	As a result, the great ideas which once inspired Europe seem to have lost their attraction, only to be replaced by the bureaucratic technicalities of its institutions.
	This is the Pope saying this.
	Yeah, he's pointing the finger at the EU. Yes.
	This is the European Union that's causing this.
	And I will tell you that when you look to the...
	Here's some analysis on this.
	I like the barren grandmother.
	I figured out what does he mean with that, and I checked out population growth.
	None of these countries in Europe are growing by natural birth.
	No, no, they're growing by immigration.
	Immigration, exactly.
	Exactly.
	And Italy, apparently, is the worst case.
	They're just dying.
	Nobody wants to have babies.
	They just all want to get plastered.
	And you have this eugenics movement, eugenicist movement.
	What's the point?
	It seems redundant.
	Well, this is why it's so interesting that this is so important to them.
	Someone else said to me the other day, well, maybe we just have less humans.
	Why don't we start killing them now?
	Be faster.
	The fastest way is through war and pestilence and famine.
	Start them out, shoot them, just go for it.
	Exactly.
	Why wait?
	Knock it way back.
	There was an interesting, just to kind of cross over into eugenics, so of course I'm still tracking the Brittany suicide, self, self, what do they call it?
	Suicide.
	There's a word for it, I've forgotten it.
	Suicide.
	It wasn't suicide.
	What was it?
	That was the girl who took the meds to kill herself earlier so that the insurance company didn't have to deal with her.
	Which is part of what...
	Oh, yeah, right.
	Euthanasia.
	Euthanasia.
	Thank you.
	That's the word.
	Euthanasia.
	Yeah, that way it saves the insurance company's money and saves the hospitals.
	It's a bed.
	So who do you think...
	So if you look at who is...
	What states allow this, and this is...
	Remember, this is what they were pushing through.
	And it was the big healthcare insurer.
	Kaiser.
	Kaiser.
	Who was propagating this because they're the ones that want this law because it will save them money.
	This is just the fallacy.
	Nobody talks about that in these terms except our show.
	The sickness of this.
	The fucking sickness of these companies who want to do this.
	They don't give a crap six months.
	Great.
	Good for us.
	Good deal.
	So MSNBC is all on board.
	We've got to find someone to blame.
	Who do we blame for people not wanting this obvious, obvious smart law?
	Which I'd like to see...
	The Republicans.
	It's interesting to me, looking at the map of the states that approve this, only five approve it at the level that Oregon does.
	It's an interesting cluster in the Northwest where this notion has taken hold.
	And it seems to me, when you stare at that map, California really, with the momentum coming out of Brittany's so visible choice, that there really should be some movement on this in California.
	You have a very strong Catholic base.
	Here in California.
	It's a very high Latino population.
	And they seem to go with Catholic religion.
	They seem to go?
	These crazy Latinos, they seem to go Catholic.
	I don't know why.
	Because they don't like, I don't know, killing themselves.
	And they seem to go with Catholic religion.
	And as I'm sure you know, the Vatican has...
	Has disapproved of what Brittany did and has called it reprehensible, which is That is a crime, in my opinion.
	Because until you've experienced and been in a room with a loved one that is enduring just unbearable pain, it is the only humane thing to do is to let them choose, if that's what they want, to go to sleep peacefully.
	There you go.
	They will not stop.
	California, you're on deck.
	It's your turn, California.
	Well, not with, luckily, the Hispanic population, which is Catholic by some weird coincidence.
	Who knew why?
	iPhone, schmy phone!
	The way I see it, the only good phone's a landline, and the phone should be made out of Bakelite.
	Hey, hey, hey!
	It's time for Tech News, everybody!
	Here with Tech News, which is everything except phone news.
	Well, that's not always true, Adam.
	Don't tell me you've got phone.
	Is there a new phone?
	Do we have something about phones?
	Yes, Tech News.
	Play it.
	Right here, because Apple has hiked prices for its iPhones, its iPads, and its computers on its Russian online store in response to the falling ruble.
	Average prices for Apple products have now gone up, on average, some 25%.
	But in response, Samsung has decided to lower the prices of its flagship smartphones.
	Yeah!
	Right from Russia.
	Perfect news and tech news.
	The thing I wanted to just touch on briefly, well, actually two things.
	Because it's not really tech news, but this first look media, Pierre Drive My Car, Omniar.
	Yeah, did you read that piece?
	I sent it to you.
	Oh, right.
	Yeah.
	Oh yeah, you did.
	It was a great piece.
	It was written by this guy who writes for the Baffler, one of these offbeat magazines, and it was just an indictment of the whole operation.
	Yeah, who wrote it here?
	I have it here.
	Omadar is like, you know, a Silicon Valley geek.
	He just expects people to have a lot of meetings.
	Can you imagine he made people like Matt Taibbi and whenever they had their stand-up meetings, all-hands meetings?
	Yeah, it's all the cornball crap.
	All these Silicon Valley-speak garbage.
	Total...
	What a...
	I don't want to gloat, but we totally called this.
	From day one?
	Where's that douche, the professor?
	He's probably still...
	Oh, Rosen.
	Yeah, J. Rosen.
	I don't know if he's a douche, but he's an advisor.
	He's a total douche.
	Are you kidding me?
	He's a douche.
	He's an advisor.
	Where is he now?
	I'm sure he's still taking a check.
	It's so pathetic.
	Apparently, Greenwald and DriveMyCar, I've never even met in person.
	That's funny.
	I didn't notice that was in there.
	Yeah.
	But guys like Matt Taibbi aren't going to put up with this kind of bureaucracy, and then they want to turn him into managers or something.
	The whole thing was a joke.
	But, you know, he still has time to fix this.
	He can hire me.
	I should go and talk to him.
	What?!
	Yeah, you can hire me.
	And we can turn this around in a minute.
	No.
	Whoa!
	Whatever happened to hiring the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group?
	Since when did you go solo?
	In terms of print?
	Okay, I'll make it part of the...
	Well, I'll tell you what.
	They're not print?
	Okay, I didn't know that we did...
	Are they printing paper?
	Well, it's essentially...
	Are they typesetting?
	It's alright.
	I'm sorry.
	I'll write a proposal up.
	I'm sorry.
	I feel a little...
	No, you know what?
	Fine.
	No, go ahead.
	No, no.
	It's okay.
	You go ahead.
	I'm just joking anyway.
	I'm not gonna talk to that guy.
	Brian the Gay Crusader is on deck.
	I know that was the real answer to this situation.
	I knew that was going to happen.
	I knew that was what you were thinking all along.
	I'm going to show myself old by donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on the agenda in the morning.
	We do have some people to thank for show 674 as we move ahead towards show 700. - 100.
	Wow.
	700 shows is a lot.
	Yeah.
	700 of anything.
	700 is a lot.
	It's a lot of shows.
	700 bitches.
	Nikolai Balba in Celebration.
	Wow!
	Uh-oh.
	Celebration Florida?
	The Disney Village?
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	I don't know anyone from there.
	I've been there a couple times, usually to take people there to show them.
	Yeah, to show them the cult.
	To show them the cult, right?
	I was thinking about this the other day.
	I would move there.
	I bet you they got good internet connectivity, better than Comcast, and I could probably do a fine show from Celebration, and it's a very relaxing place.
	And they have gardeners, and they keep their lawns up, and the whole thing is a dynamite place.
	Let me take a look.
	Celebration.
	Celebration.
	Yeah, get on the Google car and drive around there.
	You'll see.
	Wow.
	Well, let's see.
	And they have a theater, a small little theater.
	You know it's always going to be in business because Disney owns it.
	Let me see what kind of real estate is available for you, John.
	Mm-hmm.
	Okay.
	We have...
	Oh, this is weird.
	It's weird?
	Shares Inc.?
	What is this?
	Celebration Rental Group?
	I think it's all leased or something.
	I don't know if you can actually buy anything.
	No.
	Well, that's something for me then.
	Yeah, it'd be perfect.
	You would love Celebration.
	And they have the Exotic Car Festival, Oktoberfest.
	Oh yeah.
	The cast of Survivor came to visit.
	There you go.
	And the tree lighting.
	Don't forget the tree lighting.
	Nikolai Alba from Celebration Floor.
	One, two, three, four, five.
	An outstanding donation.
	We played Boomshakawaka to accept he won another round.
	I bet you there's lots of swingers in Celebration.
	Oh, now that you mention it, now that's kind of creepy.
	But now that you mention it, yeah, well.
	Sex swings.
	Sex swings.
	Baron Sonder Hohsberg Bergen in Zondam.
	One, two, three, four, five.
	Thank you, Sander.
	Baron.
	Sir.
	And he says, sir, thanks.
	Regards, Baron Sander.
	He says, get us through Thanksgiving.
	Thank you.
	Because at least it's true.
	$111.41 from Trumansburg, New York.
	Julie McNeil in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
	$100.
	Sandalyn Media Oibab.
	Which I think it means limited or something like that.
	Sandelen Media.
	Oh, this is from Rabbe, who I... Rabbe Sanderlin, Dutch pronounce.
	Yeah, Rabbe Sanderlin.
	Yeah, I read his note earlier.
	Helsingforth, Nylund, Finland.
	Go van der Klai in Amsterdam, $80.
	I don't know this name, Go, but it's...
	Hold on a second.
	It's Go.
	Gijs.
	Gijs van der Klai.
	He thinks there's a spitting G joined by Ice John.
	Ice.
	Try it.
	Anonymous, $80.
	Sir Geronimus.
	Hey, Sir Geronimus after Anonymous.
	That's right.
	$770.
	Athens, Greece.
	I think it's our first Athens, Greece.
	Well, no, because he's a sir, so he would be Sir Geronimus Anonymous.
	Yeah, Sir Geronimus Anonymous.
	Kevin McLaughlin in Locust, North Carolina, 69-69.
	Kevin, I think it's Mile Miley, M-E-Y-L-E, in Kalamazoo, Michigan, 69-69.
	Harry Pilgrim, this is finally the money that came in for his confused nighting on the last show.
	Well, it wasn't confused in my book.
	No, I was the one that was confused because I read the beginning of this, and...
	Which is this same thing, but we didn't have this money, 6969 in Fredericksburg, Virginia, but we gave him the knighting because I didn't read the first paragraph of his note talking about that he had the knighting accounted for.
	So I screwed it up completely, but he did get his knighting.
	But here's his donation.
	Scott Penton in Tonawanda, New York, $60.
	Dame Beth Borazan in Tucson, Arizona, $5502.
	Eric Hochul in Berlin, Deutschland, $52.
	Shannon Adkins in Warren, Michigan, $5050.
	She says, been too long since the last donation.
	I appreciate the show too much to show such neglect.
	Sir Inside Jobs in Seattle, Washington, 5033.
	Sir Kevin Payne in Richmond, Virginia, 5033.
	Kimberly Winnick in Loyal, Wisconsin.
	This donation is to be in Alan Fleetwood's name in honor of his birthday on 1130.
	That's today.
	That's today.
	And she made a big deal about this.
	She wanted to show her love for Alan Fleetwood.
	That's nice.
	Aaron Murphy, Rio Rancho, New Mexico, 50.
	These are all 50s.
	Brian Matthews in Balbrigan, Dublin, Ireland.
	Richard Fox in Austin, Texas.
	Hey.
	Evan Cook in Salem, Oregon.
	Anastasia Perov in Mississauga, Ontario.
	Hold on a second.
	Evan Cook from my special fellow Dustin who has been a faithful listener for years.
	Kindness punched me in the mouth.
	His birthday is this Thursday, but I knew if I waited until after Sunday's show, I'd probably forget by Thursday, because that's how much you love, Dustin.
	I both wish we could give more frequently.
	Okay, hopefully it's enough to get my sweetheart deduced for his birthday.
	Let me just do that for a second.
	You've been deduced.
	And we'll put him on the birthday list.
	And you might as well de-douche Anastasia Peroff's buddy or husband, Dennis Peroff.
	You've been de-douched.
	I love how the female partners are de-douching their male partners on the show.
	Yes, as well they should.
	It's a strange reversal of roles.
	I think it's interesting that the two de-douchings took place, one donation after another, proving again that random number theory is working.
	In play.
	David Duvall in Malta, New York, $50.
	And finally, Bogdan Lechendro!
	Now there's, what is it?
	Lechendro, Lechendro.
	I was corrected on this pronunciation a number of times.
	So it says Bogdan Lechendro, I believe, in Irvine, Texas, $50.
	But I, for some reason, enjoy saying Bogdan Lechendro.
	Eh.
	Hey, we want to thank these folks.
	That's a short list of...
	Folks?
	These folks.
	You may not call our producers folks.
	Okay, these wonderful producers for donating the show 674, and we do have 675, which I think is interesting because it's got a 6, a 7, and a 5, or a 5, 6, 7.
	In the wrong order.
	In the wrong order.
	It's got the wrong order of a bunch of numbers.
	It's almost a palindrome.
	It's not that hard to be a palindrome with three numbers.
	No, that's true.
	676 coming up would be a palindrome.
	Anyway, Dvorak.org slash Annie.
	We thank everyone for helping us produce and deliver this show to you twice a week.
	And we do it with great pleasure, I have to say.
	And it's lovely to see.
	I'm just looking down the list of our fives and our fours, our 11-11s.
	This is also highly appreciated.
	It really is.
	And I encourage everybody to get on some kind of monthly program if you're donating already.
	It helps.
	It really does.
	It makes it work for us.
	And as long as you're receiving the value, we're happy to continue providing it for you.
	And the world's beautiful.
	The circle is round.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. Kimberly Winok says happy birthday to her fiancé, Alan Fleetwood, celebrating today.
	Kevin McLaughlin, also today is his birthday.
	Heaven Cook, says happy birthday to her special fella, Dustin.
	I thought it was Thursday, but anyway, maybe today, November 30th.
	And Dame Beth Barzan, celebrating on the 2nd of December.
	That'll be Monday.
	Happy birthday from all your friends here at The Best Podcast in the Universe.
	And we have Sir Frank Azenstadt becoming the Baron of Dunnington.
	And if you can...
	Oh, you're ahead of me.
	I'll get my blade.
	Jason Kiefer, come on, man.
	Step up to the podium here.
	Look at that roundtable.
	How about them dames and knights?
	You, sir, are about to become a member of that roundtable because of your contribution to the No Agenda Best Podcast in the Universe.
	I hereby pronounce the Sir Jason Kiefer, Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	For you, my friend, hookers and blow, malted barley and hops, dos eckies and a Dutch dominatrix, root beer and Legos.
	Red boys and Chardonnay.
	Bad science and perky breasts.
	Cuban cigars and single malt scotch.
	Opium and warm orange juice.
	Hot pants and booze or...
	Mutton and mead.
	Did you okay the ring thing?
	Yes.
	I okay it verbally, but I have to send a note.
	Okay, meeting adjourned.
	I have a little thing that's been bothering me, just like the Ferguson thing.
	It's just eating at me.
	And then I got these clips from, I guess a couple of clips here that explained it all.
	There's a lot of B-roll out there, which is the stuff that uses stock footage when they talk about the pollution in China.
	And I look at a lot of this B-roll, and I was an air pollution inspector, and I know what pollution looks like, and I'm familiar with the London death fog of 1950-something or other, 55, I think, when a bunch of people died.
	There's a certain look to it.
	And I've always thought the look was a little off.
	I just want to reestablish.
	I want to reestablish.
	You are trained, educated, and have practiced the scientific role of air quality inspection.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	And so I've always bothered by this, and then all of a sudden realization takes place that this B-roll I'm sure is all coming from this phenomenon.
	Play the clip, Sandstorm Opener.
	Beijing was struck by its worst sandstorm in four years.
	The whole city was enveloped in dust, reducing visibility to less than a kilometer.
	The sandstorm originated in Inner Mongolia and swept southward as far as southeast China, beyond the Yangtze River.
	Twenty-one provinces and regions were seriously affected.
	Even Hong Kong in the far south recorded an air pollution index well above normal.
	Over the past 50 years, the regular sandstorms have harmed people's health, in particular causing numerous cases of respiratory disease.
	They've also given rise to the widespread disruption of transport.
	In the battle against sandstorms, the Beijing municipal government has planted trees, carpeted the ground with lawns, and built protection belts.
	Yet none of these efforts has completely prevented the occurrence of abnormal weather phenomena.
	Abnormal weather phenomena like sandstorms?
	Now, let's play, this is the one where one of the worst sandstorms ever happened, which I think most of the B-roll comes from, is the March 20, 2010 clip, which actually has the amount of sand that was dropped on the city.
	And I realized that when I finally saw these clips and saw the same B-roll I've been seeing as air pollution, that just because of whatever reason, you know, the industrialization and all the rest, I realized that I had been in a sandstorm.
	I was in Israel once, and there was a genuine massive sandstorm, and it looks just like this.
	It creates a kind of a brown fog.
	It's a very strange thing to be in, a sandstorm.
	But play this clip, and then we can end this whole thing and realize that the American public has never been told any of this bullcrap.
	Population explosion, traffic jams, power shortages, and environmental pollution.
	Beijing has suffered the most with frequent occurrences of calamitous weather conditions in the form of sandstorms from North Africa, Central Asia, Xinjiang, and Inner Mongolia.
	The sandstorm that began on March 20, 2010 lasted for three days and dumped 300,000 tons of sand on Beijing.
	The air quality index plummeted, and Beijing's 20 million people suffered three days of misery.
	Alright, you know, you realize that we couldn't actually see any of the video you were talking about.
	Well, I cut a lot of the noise, because actually this is a long thing, and they had lots of music and lots of clips.
	But you've seen this, when you saw the Olympics, when you saw...
	I have been in a sandstorm myself.
	Oh, nice!
	In Kuwait.
	Okay.
	When we landed with the plane in Kuwait, which helps if you're in a plane, en route to Iraq in 2004, 3, 4, whatever, when I went there.
	Yeah.
	We landed, and then we had to sit and wait for, it must have been 45 minutes, for the sandstorm to pass over the airport.
	So we were in the middle of it.
	It was pretty cool.
	It wasn't anything like this, but it's sandy, all right.
	Yeah, but it's more of such a fine powder.
	Yeah, they had to cover the engines.
	Yeah, it's not like when you see a movie and they have a guy in a sandstorm, it's like the wind is blowing.
	If there's wind blowing, it usually blows the sand someplace else.
	But it's like the wind blowing and sand is ripping his skin and all the rest is like sand.
	It's not sand.
	It's extremely fine particulate, which is close to the same size as smoke and so far as particles are concerned.
	And it's just everywhere, and you can't see, you know, more than maybe three or four or five feet in front of you.
	So what is the point?
	What are you trying to tell?
	The point is that we've been, well, it's just something I said was eating at me, because I kept seeing this B-roll.
	Oh, the terrible pollution in Beijing because of the factories.
	Ah, I got you.
	These factories, what factories?
	They're making iPhones.
	There's no smoke coming from these places.
	No.
	I just think we're led down a primrose path of bullcrap as usual.
	And they keep showing this B-roll.
	Everyone's got a mask on.
	Yeah, you'd wear a mask if you're going to be outside in one of these sandstorms.
	And they apparently have them all the time.
	Yeah.
	I've been to Beijing a number of times.
	I've never been in one of these sandstones, but now I can imagine.
	Anyway, it's just a little annoyance that I had to get out of the way.
	I'd like to go to Beijing.
	That'd be nice.
	I'd like to go to so many places.
	Beijing's great.
	Let me wrap this up as we move towards our finalization of this program today.
	Two presidential proclamations I wanted to mention briefly.
	Uh-oh.
	Well, tomorrow, December 1st, is World AIDS Day.
	This is a well-known fact.
	It's funny, I didn't clip it, but I saw Chevron with an AIDS commercial for Chevron Nigeria.
	Okay.
	Also by presidential proclamation, it seems that December belongs to only one proclamation the whole month.
	You know, we have months that have six, seven, eight different proclamations that the month belongs to.
	Huh.
	December is National Impaired Driving Prevention Month.
	Oh, holiday season drunks.
	All Americans deserve to live long and full lives, and every child should have the chance to seize his or her future.
	But throughout our nation, too many lives are tragically cut short in traffic crashes involving drunk, drugged, or distracted driving.
	Well, shouldn't it be all of this?
	This is just impaired.
	Yeah, you can be impaired by being distracted.
	Right.
	Finally, this is actually something that we should be working on.
	More people are killed by traffic accidents than anything else.
	40,000 a year.
	Yeah, it's car accidents.
	In this country, yeah.
	Well, I have one last clip.
	I was going to do two.
	You want me to do the last one?
	This is a little shorty.
	I just thought this was a good clip.
	Turkey calories clip.
	If you are feeling rather stuffed right now, there's a good reason.
	You may have consumed, get ready, more than 4,000 calories today.
	I know, it's a big number.
	Research from the Calorie Control Council suggests a traditional Thanksgiving meal is loaded with 3,000 calories.
	And the average person will add on 4,000 calories.
	1,500 or more through snacking and nibbling.
	It is all the equivalent of eating three sticks of butter.
	Why are you putting this poop on me?
	Three sticks of butter.
	So?
	I couldn't resist a clip with that punchline.
	That's what you did for Thanksgiving.
	You ate three sticks of butter.
	Well, not me, because I was all by myself.
	By the time we were done with the show on Thursday, and by the time I was done posting it and everything, uploading, it was 11.30, and I had a shawarma at the shawarma place, and I went to bed.
	Oh, that's sad.
	Yeah, no turkey, no love, no nothing.
	Huh.
	All right, here we go.
	David Pook, Papa Oscar Oscar Kilo.
	According to AchieveTheCore.org, David Pook completed his undergraduate work at Penn with honors.
	His studies include the field of cognitive science and art history, leading to a master's and PhD in philosophy.
	Now, as an educational consultant, he worked very closely with the Council of Chief State Officers in drafting the Common Core Standards for the English Language Arts and has several projects underway with the Student Achievement Partners on work aligned with the Common Core State Standards.
	And see, on his own and in partnership with consulting organizations like Achieve, the Aspen Institute, and EdFirst, all nonprofit NGOs, he has helped evaluate and design English and history standards, curriculum, and courses for numerous states, districts, and charter schools.
	With Achieve, David helped design the PARCC, I don't know what that is, model content frameworks, provide analysis regarding their college readiness, blah, blah, blah.
	So we usually talk about math when it comes to Common Core because that is, it's easy to post.
	Ridicule.
	Yeah, it's easy to ridicule.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's easy to ridicule.
	Now, David was at an event.
	He was on a panel.
	Let me see.
	Where was this?
	Granite State College in Manchester, New Hampshire.
	He is the chair of the history department there, and they were talking about the Common Core Standards.
	What do you believe...
	And I hope this clip is like a little bit of wild audio because it's from, you know, like kind of in a classroom where they're on the dais.
	You know, it's not great audio, but you'll be able to hear it.
	What do you think his motivation was to participate and help create Common Core Standards?
	Oh, by the way, spoiler, he really supports the Common Core Standards.
	This is for English and for history.
	And I thought it was just a different way of learning...
	But that's not at all what his motive...
	What do you think his motivation is?
	To propagandize the public so they're good little workers?
	No.
	That'd be my guess.
	I was very surprised, but you have to know in advance, I'll tell you, that the Common Core state standards by his...
	In his words, and they'll come after his big reveal, are really lowering...
	What?
	Yeah.
	Listen to the clip and you'll understand why.
	Every teacher that's using it basically is saying this is inspiring a closer and more engaged student body.
	So the people that are actually using it like it.
	And again, in terms of the local control, you still have local control.
	So if you want higher standards, if that's really, if that is your genuine point, then you can go ahead and do the higher standard.
	And the process was indeed totally transparent.
	And I'm going to defer now to David and Bill.
	I'm not paid to be here either.
	This is him.
	That was the leader of the group.
	Then he said, hey, if you want to implement higher standards, that's fine by us.
	What idiot would want to do that?
	And by the way, when you're done with this clip, you might as well do it.
	Give yourself the clip of the day because this is unbelievable.
	Wait until you hear what Pook is about to say.
	Oh, man.
	Okay, let's continue.
	Did you hear what he said?
	I've been given a lot of privilege that I didn't earn.
	As a white male in society.
	As a white male, I've been given a lot of privilege.
	Tell that to the people in Appalachia.
	As a result, I think it's really Move!
	Move!
	Move!
	Then they're told to shut up by the other- Hey!
	Hey!
	It's privilege!
	Because of the privilege!
	I think it's really important that all kids get the equal opportunity to learn how to read.
	And I think I had this Saturday night, which is as a result of who I was, not being a patriot of mine.
	And when I walk into places like Roberto Clemente High School and the Society of Chicago, I think it's really important that those kids learn how to read just as well as I have the opportunity to read.
	And creating an equitable educational opportunity for all kids.
	I think this is actually the greatest lesson we can teach our kids.
	Where two plus three is approximately four in the common core.
	Clip of the day.
	Another last ditch clip of the day.
	I hit one last time at the end of the show.
	It's funny.
	Well, that's disgusting.
	It's so wrong.
	So because of his white privilege, I guess he lowered the standards.
	Yeah, well, this is actually very condescending and patronizing, if you think about it.
	Yeah.
	It's like, well, since I'm a white privilege genius, you can all, you stupid people, we'll just lower the standards so you can actually pass, and I'm doing you all a favor.
	Yeah.
	It's bullcrap.
	Yeah.
	Sad, isn't it?
	Yeah.
	Jeb Bush is a huge Common Core guy.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Of course.
	Do you want to mention that?
	Because he needed lower standards to do anything.
	We need lower standards for another Bush in the White House.
	Do you want to wrap it up?
	All right, well, that's a disgusting ending.
	Should we just end?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	You can't beat that.
	No.
	Sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	I didn't mean to.
	The butter thing after that, but I think this is better.
	I think this is much better than butter.
	Better than butter.
	What's better than butter?
	Better than butter, he said.
	Alrighty.
	Hopefully, if I... I don't know if I'm going to be able to pick Miss Mickey up at the airport.
	Probably won't make it.
	She can take an Uber!
	She could.
	Yeah, she can.
	She's coming in today?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	She was supposed to come in last night, but...
	The plane was delayed and delayed and delayed and delayed.
	She wouldn't get in until 3.30.
	She'd say, screw it, just stay another night in L.A. Well, there you have it.
	Which made her angry.
	You know, I would be angry, too, if I had spent an extra...
	You had to plan for L.A. and kind of, like, can't really put up with hanging out.
	At least that's my experience.
	All right.
	We will be back on Thursday.
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	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm dodging raindrops, I'm John C. Dvorak.
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