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Blind and or asleep.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Sunday, August 14th, 2014.
It's time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 643.
This is No Agenda.
Leading a legion of Tourette's tickers from the South Austin Safe House in FEMA Region 6 here in the capital of the Drone Star State.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I have returned, I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Crackvon and Buzzkill.
Yeah.
Yes, finally.
Good to have you back.
Although I didn't really miss you.
You didn't miss me because I was, to you, I'm just a virtual person floating out in the ether.
You may not be real.
You could be that IBM Watson thing for all I know.
It's a possibility.
Yeah, yeah.
That's okay.
On Friday, I'll be on the road.
Sorry, it's Friday.
On Sunday.
Tomorrow.
Yeah, tomorrow.
Tomorrow I leave for New York, and I'll be doing the show from New York, Sunday.
Where in New York?
From Manhattan.
Do you have a place there?
Yes.
My daughter and I will be staying in a hotel.
It's called a hotel, yes.
It's your hotel.
Do you own it?
Why, yes.
I inherited it from Leona Helmsley.
Yeah.
And the other little people.
Yes, indeed.
Well, I don't know.
I feel a little...
I was reading this note on the air for a sound check, and I'm wondering if we had read it on the air.
I don't think so.
Is the analyst on Warren is correct according to wingtip?
I don't think we read it.
Is it okay to read it on the air?
It's in the pile.
No, I forgot to read it.
I'm going to read it.
Okay.
Now, dear John and Adam, I ran your analysis of Warren past a friend of mine who is a member of the wingtips, not boots on the ground, if you recall that old meme.
Who are the wingtips?
Wing tips.
Yeah, who are the wing tips?
Are these, like, special democrats?
It's just a bunch of elitists.
Oh, the wingtips!
Like the penny loafers.
No, wingtips.
They got wingtips.
Yeah, okay.
Are these Republicans or Democrats?
They'll be Democrats.
The Republicans wear loafers.
He agrees with your position and his analysis below.
I think you've made a good bet on Warren.
Hillary isn't inheriting her husband's Democratic Party.
Various polls have concluded a radical liberal wave is sweeping through the party.
Her populist 11 commandments are exactly what her base wants to hear.
Hillary isn't actually popular.
She only strikes scores among certain Democrats.
I don't think she is liberal enough, and her performance within the State Department was absolutely pathetic.
Obama disappointed liberals, and Hillary appears to be a repeat.
Obama 3.
Warren is beloved by Occupy Wall Street, admired by progressives concerned about income inequality and the wealth gap.
Hillary is too crazy with Wall Street and liberal hawks.
Oh, too cozy.
Too cozy with Wall Street and liberal hawks.
In 2008, Obama gave liberals an option for voicing their disdain for the Clinton's Goldman Sachs politics without putting a Republican in the White House.
This time around, Warren clearly fits that bill.
More importantly, Warren is also a woman.
Right.
The woman's in.
Of course, of course.
Liberals are obsessed with race and gender.
They only understand and see what the world through that lens.
While blacks haven't seen their disposition improve under a black president, just the fact that his skin is brown represents a great victory for the ignorant and downtrodden.
The same goes for Hillary or Warren.
It's this glass ceiling that matters, not their politics or stances.
Warren is an idiot on foreign policy, as is Obama.
She seeks appeasement with Iran, and she ultimately hopes for a return to isolationist policies.
Unlike Clinton, she doesn't favor keeping a residual force in Iraq after 2011.
She is a weak dove.
And that resonates with the war-weary Americans that can't find foreign countries on a map.
I love it when John McCain sends an email.
It's just so nice of him to do that.
I don't think the obsessive nature of wanting equality amongst all colors and genders is a Democrat-liberal thing.
I think that's an astutely American thing.
I really don't believe that's...
Well, I know, but you paint the Republicans with the hate paint.
With the hate brush, yeah.
Hate paint.
That was from Drake Anubis, one of our producers.
I've been receiving an email.
This is probably the most emailed clip, although it's a very old one.
As our president has gone to Martha's Vineyard on vacation.
And, of course, everyone loves dredging up old stuff from then-candidate Obama.
And I just can't ignore it.
It's been emailed so many times.
Essentially, the bargain that any president...
And, by the way, he said essentially.
And we know that is a weak use of a word.
Essentially, the bargain that any president, I think, strikes with the American people is you give me this office, and in turn, my...
Fears, doubts, insecurities, foibles, need for sleep, family life, vacations, leisure is gone.
I am giving myself to you and the American people should have no patience for whatever is going through your head because you've got a job to do.
That's right.
Of course, the Republicans spoke holes.
As soon as he landed in the place, he didn't even check in.
He went straight to the golf course and played 36 holes.
Riddle me this.
Why do people love Elizabeth Warren, but the same people hate Sarah Palin?
Well, Sarah Panning's a Republican, so that's bad.
She's also a conservative, and she goes to church.
That's bad.
And she's got that voice.
I mean, I don't like Sarah Panning because of that voice.
That screechy voice.
She doesn't seem very thoughtful, even though, for someone who's not thoughtful, she's come up with a number of gems, such as the death panel and some of these other things, that have all stuck.
Right.
How many memes has Elizabeth Warren ever developed?
None.
Oh, that's not true.
Can't name me one.
Yes, I'm going to find it for you.
Right, I can't find it.
The We Believe thing, that was her whole...
That was her whole thing.
We believe.
We believe was an Obama meme.
No, that was hope and change.
No, he also had believe.
We believe.
Hmm.
Yes.
Here it is.
I believe in science.
Hold on a second.
I believe in science is nothing new.
I mean, I've heard that for a long time.
I didn't know it was a belief system science.
I thought it was a methodology.
But it could be a belief system.
I thought it was a methodology.
It's a scientific fact.
It's turned into a belief system.
Isn't that interesting?
Well, yes.
Well, I think we've established that for sure.
Well, hold on a sec.
Let me just find this.
I have this somewhere.
I don't know why it's not in my evergreens.
It should be.
Because that was such a beautiful speech she did there at the...
What was that thing again?
The net neuron?
Net roots.
Net neurons.
Net roots, yes.
Net neurons.
Net neurons.
You know what I'm saying.
I can't find it.
Okay.
I'm going to play.
We're going to get started here.
We could do a few different things.
Let me play this clip.
It's just kind of a light clip.
This is a 15-second commercial for Hotels.com that I thought was the creepiest thing.
First, you have to imagine.
Here's your setting.
There's some poor old lady who must be 80 sitting behind a computer with some young guys, obviously the computer expert, sitting next to her.
I think I just saw this commercial on CNN. Yeah, sitting next to her, helping her find some hotel room, and then this guy, the representative of Hotels.com, comes in to help, and you get this commercial, which is disgusting.
Jimmy, all of these travel sites seem the same.
Tell your grandmother with the Hotels.com loyalty program she'll earn free nights, so they're not the same, because they're different.
Jimmy's not my grandson, Captain Obvious.
He's my lover.
And then they start making out.
Now, I'm going to ask you.
I have seen this, yeah.
What is the point of this commercial?
And why is it...
I mean, besides making you go, what?
What is the point of this commercial in so far as messaging is concerned?
I think it...
Well, I think we've gotten to the point where...
And marketers are desperate to have anyone remember their URL, really, their brand.
And I just booked a hotel in New York, and I did it through Hotels.com.
And I was cognizant of doing this.
And the reason why I thought is, hey, these guys are spending a bundle of money right now because they also have the one where the kid missed the air sickness bag.
Oh, that's Booking.com.
I'm sorry.
For some reason, I saw that Hotels.com was spending money.
I thought maybe I'll have a better deal.
That was my reasoning.
But marketers are at a point where they'll do anything to get their brand recognized.
So all the perverts go to Hotels.com.
I think the mistake everyone's making is the lack of using the musical jingle.
That is what works.
But it's not seemed...
You can't win a Cannes Palme d'Or or the Lyon or whatever the hell it is.
I agree 100%.
Seriously.
It's like...
There are kids all over America right now who remember this.
Well, we have people, we even have one word, jingles, or not jingles per se, because they're not rhyming or anything, but they're catchphrases, like the Putin thing.
Yeah.
And others...
Putin!
And the other ones.
And we have our In the Mornings and all the rest of it.
And those are all catchy.
Very catchy.
And nobody is...
You're right.
In fact, this has been studied to death.
I remember I talked about this on the show about three years ago.
About this guy that was apparently the guy who invented the modern jingle for early radio.
And he was on one of these Canadian stations doing an interview, and he said the same thing you just said, which is that these guys just don't get it.
They want to win awards.
Oh, we're an award-winning advertising agency.
They don't care about their clients.
No, no.
They want to make little mini-movies.
And I think this probably happened...
When did this really start?
It must have started with the Apple 1984 commercial, I'd say.
I think it goes way before that, but the Apple 1984 commercial definitely turned the tables on the creative side.
Right.
Because they paid for one play, it got infinite plays, free, and so everyone thought that's the way to go.
You do something dramatic and high-end, and you're going to get lots of attention.
And that has never worked for anything except that Apple commercial.
Yeah.
No, but there have been some very good ones.
There's been the Mac versus PC. There have been real winners that are trend-setting and, of course, are replicated ad nauseum.
And if I hear one more commercial with kind of that happy-go-lucky Apple music with the up-talking, happy male voice and the black and white, just the whole thing.
It's so...
It's tiring.
But a good jingle works.
Call 1-800-EMPIRE-TODAY! That's our carpet guy here in Austin.
Cars for kids.
K-A-R-S. Cars for kids.
Donate your car today.
Yeah, I have Empire today.
That's the carpet.
We have the Empire guy here, too.
It's obviously a massive chain.
Yeah, I thought it was local.
See, it's working.
It looks local because it's a sleazy commercial with crappy animation.
Yeah.
Yeah, good work.
So, success.
I can't say it any other way.
Yeah.
Well, and then there's that.
Well, also, people are just being...
Your human rights are being violated with what is being shown to you on television.
I'm surprised by our own audience, and I'm really surprised by the citizens of Gitmo Nation, certainly if we look at St.
Louis, Missouri.
I've been to St.
Louis a lot.
My client Budweiser, Anheuser-Busch, used to be there back in the day.
And when I see people protesting and their protest slogan is, hands up, don't shoot.
Are you fucking kidding me?
I'm sorry.
What is this?
This must be a planned, fake...
I mean, this can't be real citizens who...
Or perhaps it is where we have gone to...
First of all, this is no surprise that we have a police state, that the police are armed like the army.
This surprises you, citizen?
You haven't seen this happening?
You haven't read this?
You haven't heard of this?
Are you blind?
Have you just put blinders in front of your eyes?
Oh, that's not really happening?
And now it happens?
And now, oh wow, can you believe it?
And they're shooting you with rubber bullets, which is nothing new.
I think, if anything, it's boring.
The footage is boring.
The footage isn't good.
What happened to the guys with the billy clubs beating up protesters?
You've got the long-distance noise machine, which I think is...
Illegal by Geneva Convention standards.
Yeah, no, I think it is, too.
It's a horrible weapon to use on people.
And you shoot a bunch of flashbangs and tear gas, and people are saying, hands up, don't shoot.
This is not a protest.
And there's all kinds of people jumping.
This one is...
There's a lot going on with this particular event.
When you get Sharpton in on day two, this is other...
Have you seen this?
Bob Avakian.
Sharpton is a professional agitator.
Should be ashamed of himself.
I have a clip here from...
Hold on a second.
Where is it?
Well, you're getting that clip.
I have it here.
I have it here.
Someone heckled him, and I thought it was kind of funny.
Why?
Reverend Sharpton, the term snitches get stitches was spray painted on the quick trip.
Since you're a federal snitch, sir, do you fear for your life?
Are you in fear for your life being a federal informant?
I want to inform on this policeman today.
Listen to this.
Are you here to snitch on the writers?
That's right.
Tell them, Rev.
You tell them, Rev.
That's right.
You tell them, Rev.
Yeah, he's a snitch.
We know he's a snitch.
Yes, we always forget that.
Well, I didn't forget it, and I liked that this...
Citizen, did not forget it.
Citizen journalist.
But how this is being portrayed, and immediately this is now, it's a black, it's a white on black thing.
This is what I'm seeing everywhere, and I'm very discouraged by people taking that meme and running with it, because I don't believe that is what initially happened here.
I don't think that is the right way to approach this.
And when I see, this is a state senator from Missouri, Nasheed blatantly lying to trump this up into racial hate crime.
You know, I'm appalled.
The people should have a right to know.
You have...
It's unjustifiable.
How can you justify killing and shooting down a man in the middle of the street?
Execution style.
What?!
Did he put him on his knees and shot him in the back of the head?
Execution style?
They had the guy, the sheriff, or not the sheriff, but the local cop there who turned all the investigations over to the county because he didn't want to have a conflict of interest.
And he says the kid was shot in the police car as he jumped for the gun or something along those lines.
He wasn't even shot in the streets.
This is all...
Nobody saw this.
They just say what they think happened because it's...
Yes, and that's my point, is that this is not journalism.
This is making crazy people-ism.
Again, simply...
Hold on a second.
I want you to play that clip again.
Now, I'm going to suppose something, and you're going to tell me if I'm right or wrong, because I'm pretty sure I'm right.
After she made that idiotic comment that he was killed execution-style, in other words, on his knees and shot in the back of the head, the person doing the interview called her out on that.
Oh, let me see.
I would say...
Justify.
Killing and shooting down a man in the middle of the street, execution style.
Again, simply because his only crime was walking in the middle of the street wanting to visit his grandmother.
It may be true, but listen to the story that is being spun here.
He wasn't considered a statistic.
He didn't have any felony charges.
He didn't have any gang activity.
He wasn't involved in any gang activities.
He didn't do any of those things.
He wasn't a drug dealer.
He was an upright young man.
Who did exactly what his mother told him to do.
Go to school, get a good education, and become a productive citizen.
This may all be true, but this has no basis in any evidence or fact, or it doesn't really relate to what is going on.
And then we have...
Ronan, the Sinatra kid on MSNBC with some guy named, last name Capehart, who was an MSNBC contributor.
I didn't look him up.
It doesn't matter.
Because what they want to say is clear.
Are black Americans, as you put it, under siege?
Yes.
Done.
You don't have to listen to the rest.
Yes.
Black Americans are under siege.
Okay.
So that is the narrative.
I saw white Americans were walking around in this protesting.
I saw all kinds of things going on.
I'm discouraged that this is immediately taken to race.
Well, they have to get ready for the...
They're desperate about the 2014 elections.
And they gotta get the black votes out.
And the blacks will vote Democrat, because I don't even know when that switchover took place.
Should we be that sarcastic that that truly is why this is...
I think you're right.
And that is what you need to revolt against.
The people who are commenting on this, they really don't care about you.
They only care about votes and power.
And this group that showed up, one of our producers took some pictures and he lives there.
I had not heard of this guy, Bob Avakian.
You may have heard of him.
Oh yeah, he's been around forever.
For a long time.
Yeah, since the 60s, I think.
Yes, he is the leader of...
The Revolutionary Communist Party USA. And when groups like this show up with bullhorns and t-shirts...
You know, and he is not, I don't think he's an Obama fan at all, by the way.
I think he's very much, he truly is a Marxist.
I think he just wants communism or whatever.
But when, that means it was an opportunity and it may have been a set-up opportunity or in some way it was exploitable and these groups, these smallish groups, I think Bob Bavakian is not a well-recognized name anymore if he ever was.
He wasn't in the 60s and 70s in Berkeley.
So he shows up with his group and they're yelling about all kinds of stuff.
Well, they're just stirring things up.
I mean, it's bad enough.
But this is what happened, you know, after they tore, there's a Target store that was just completely decimated.
And, you know, all this other, the looting is a problem.
And then burning down the gas station, some other things are going.
Well, yeah, man, if you're mad at the man, you got to loot the Target.
Yeah, well, the problem is it ends up, you end up creating another Detroit, even though St.
Louis is halfway there already.
In fact, St.
Louis has had nothing but race problems since the early 1900s.
It's always been a problem there, but that's not discussed even.
In fact, the first great race riot documented in the United States was believed to be the 1917 St.
Louis race riots that were so bad, they essentially tore down half of East St.
Louis.
It was so bad that they put out a...
I have a clip from the guy who wrote a book on this.
Oh, good.
And they have it so bad that they went out and confiscated every photo they could find of the carnage.
And there's very little left.
And most of it's in this guy's book.
Very little left and a lot of drawings.
But actually, the police went out and got all the photos because they thought it was inflammatory.
And really, if you look at it, not much has changed as geolocation tags for Facebook stopped working.
I think charter cables, some things went out.
Cell phones where there was issues.
There was a notice to airmen.
Although, a 3,000-foot notice to airmen is not really a huge problem for a news helicopter.
And I still think we should have been able to have received some kind of video.
But I think more went on.
That was probably more the excuse.
You get a lot of poor analysis of a NOTAM. The airspace was not blocked, closed down.
There was certain altitude.
Right, they made a big deal.
Depending on your lens, I've done 3,000-foot photography, and you can do pretty well.
But it's the same thing.
So we want to control the message.
And the president's about to speak, because this is Thursday the 14th.
Now the president is going to speak about this.
I don't think he's talked about a lot of things of horror and terrible nature that have happened, but this one, there he is.
And as cynical as it sounds...
Gotta get the vote out.
I want to play some of this 1970s.
It's a long clip, so do I play all of it?
Play as much as you feel like.
He talks about the origins of the race riot, which is a bunch of...
I'll just give a little background.
The origin of this race riot was apparently the St.
St. Louis police would get drunk after hours and then go into the black part of town and shoot up the place just as a joke.
And then the blacks got fed up with this.
Now, I want to put things in perspective with this situation that's taking place in Ferguson, which is that what happened to this kid, no matter however it happened, is daily routine in Oakland, in the Bay Area.
This Thank you.
This is happening all the time.
And we're not having these race rides.
So these race rides are somehow...
They're either a culmination of pent-up hostilities, which I believe is partially part of it.
I would agree.
And then...
Kerosene to the fire, you have the Sharptons and these other a-holes coming in.
Play this clip.
And blacks from the south, at the same time the bull wheel was destroying the cotton crop, and farm jobs were disappearing, and so blacks were moving in large numbers north to industrial cities.
And East St.
Louis was an industrial city.
And there were inevitable clashes between blacks and whites that took place over these jobs, and it just evolved into a riot that took place in July of that year, July of 1917.
The night of July 1st, a model T Ford, a black model T Ford, drove through a black neighborhood, people shooting out of the windows.
An hour later, a black Model T Ford moved through a black neighborhood with people shooting out of the windows.
No one was killed.
But the third time, a black Model T Ford went through a black neighborhood with people shooting out of the windows.
Blacks had assembled, young black men had assembled with guns, and they shot back.
And two police detectives were killed.
And that triggered the riot.
And then all chaos broke out.
You make an excellent point that this happens probably on a daily basis in Berkeley, California, or Oakland, sorry, Oakland.
Oakland, yes.
Why is it, do you think, that these riots do not take place there?
Is that because, and I have my ideas, but I'm thinking, is that because it's such a tinderbox that it could get out of control, and the people who really want to see these riots for their own personal gain in power would be subject to danger?
Or is the police state so vast in that area that it just can't spark big enough?
What do you think?
Why is the reason?
Why, yes, St.
Louis, no to Oakland.
And M.C. Hammer, by the way, who was an Oaktown boy, he's all over this too.
Why is it that this is now on the radar, everyone jumps on it, pile diving, like the Sharptons and the communist group and everybody else, and not in Oakland?
Is that because the elites don't want it to get out of control, the people who want power who live nearby, or is the police state so strong that it can't happen?
What is your vision?
You're out there, so I'm hoping you have some insight.
That's very simple.
The Democrat Party runs California in every which way.
In Missouri, that's not the case.
Republicans have a foothold.
Okay, so the city, right?
That's all there is to it.
It's run by Democrats.
The state is run by Democrats.
We have two Democrat senators, Feinstein and Boxer, two idiots.
The governor's a Democrat.
Everyone's a Democrat.
And so you have Democrat mayor.
You have Democrat everything in Oakland.
You're not going to get this because...
We don't need it.
We don't need it.
What's the problem?
We don't need a riot because we're already running the place.
I'm sorry.
Of course, yeah, alright, that makes sense.
So you can shoot a kid on a BART, you know, with the BART police, with the guy, oh, I thought it was my taser, and you pump up a bunch of bullets into him, and it's all caught on tape, and no riots.
Okay, you just totally warped my mind, and thank you.
That's it?
That is exactly it?
So this could happen in Texas then, I guess?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, it could happen in Texas, because Texas is scheduled to turn into a blue state after Georgia.
We had the clip about these demographers that were talking about this during the roundtable, and they said, yeah, Georgia's going to be the next state to go.
To blue from red and then they're going to go to Texas will be after that.
And so there has to, one way you gotta get the black vote out.
And you get the black vote out with situations and the situation will get people riled up.
And you know Austin would be perfect for that.
Although, yeah.
Austin's already Democrat.
Nothing's going to happen in Austin.
Yeah, but we want Wendy Davis to win and all this stuff.
Austin's the capital.
There's a lot of good stuff here.
If there's going to be riots in Texas...
We have...
Houston.
Yeah.
Houston is complicated because there's so much money there, they won't stand for it.
And all the money is Democrat.
Houston may look like it's some big red town, but no way.
It's all rich Democrats who live there.
I'm going to play a little bit more of this.
This is very interesting going back to 1970.
I guess this has always been the case, although maybe these were not so politically motivated back in the day.
This was just hatred.
The next morning.
It started out, as riots often do, with fistfights in the streets and so forth, but they quickly escalated.
And one of the reasons they escalated was that there was a central mob Of men who probably had been in the bars drinking all night, which you could do in East St.
Louis in those days.
But soon there were terrible atrocities.
Black men were hung from telephone poles in downtown streets.
One man's scalp was ripped loose.
A mother and her baby were shot as they were trying to escape from a burning building.
Much of the downtown area was burned down.
Man, those ISIS guys are 100 years behind.
They're still doing this in the Middle East.
Good point.
I'm going to put this clip in the show notes, obviously, under clips and stuff.
You can listen to the whole thing.
But I think you've totally nailed this.
This only happens in places where it's advantageous.
We do have elections coming up.
And I would think it's much easier to do this in southern states...
Where you can point to historical racism.
And it makes so much sense when you have the guys popping up.
You've got Sharpton all over this.
I'm seeing politicians all...
I'm not seeing really community leaders.
I'm seeing local Democrat governors.
And the president.
The president is about to come out here and speak on...
The last time we had this was in Florida with Trayvon Martin, who is now being...
That case is being pulled up again.
That's the last time we saw the president speak about...
A young person being killed.
So you can almost map out the next one.
I would say Georgia.
I think you're right.
Georgia seems a shoe-in for that.
Yeah, and Georgia has a lot of potential for some good race riots.
Oh, man.
That's so cynical.
And I think a lot of people can't even...
I know we've talked about these things for a long time.
I can get my head around it, but I think a lot of people just say, that's crazy talk.
You don't really think that people would do this for political gain.
And the answer is yes.
Yes, they will go to any lengths.
Yeah.
And I'm looking at the Missouri...
Democrat-Republican kind of battle is going on.
Republicans hold two of the Senate statewide offices.
In other words, Roy Blount is a U.S. Senator.
And here's the deal.
They have a majority in the Missouri House of Representatives and a supermajority in the Missouri Senate.
So this has got to end.
So they essentially suffer the governorship.
Right.
Own Missouri, the Republicans, and they got to get voted out.
So you'll see this switch over there a little bit.
I don't know how many House of Representatives, because those are all gerrymandered to an extreme, will get voted out.
But they could take over the Missouri House of Representatives and Senate if they could cause enough trouble.
And how do you move?
Get the blacks out to vote.
You can't get them to vote.
That's what they always say.
Oh, they just don't want to vote because they're more.
Blacks tend to be cynical.
You know, for obvious reasons.
Yeah, because they're smart.
They know what's going on.
They know they're being hoodwinked.
And then, but in these situations where you have this sort of, when you had that woman who was a representative of the, I guess she was a congresswoman, and it was that, whatever their case was, that woman who says they was shot execution spout is a troublemaking liar.
Yeah, state senator.
Oh, she's a state senator.
She wants to get...
You know, she's in the minority.
They're in the state Senate.
She wants to see things change.
So she's going to go out there with this bullcrap and get all the people riled up.
Yeah, well, it makes sense.
I've never seen this woman before.
I have no idea.
Nasheed is her name.
Why would they bring her in?
Yeah, let's take a look.
Let's see.
State Senator Nasheed.
N-A-S-H-E-E-D. Jamelia Nasheed.
Missouri State Senate.
Come on, do we have a wiki entry?
They've got Ballotpedia.
What is that?
Ballotpedia.
Ballotpedia.
Bullcrap.
Give me your name again.
Nasheed.
November Alpha Sierra Hotel Echo Echo Delta.
And first name?
Jamila.
Juliet Alpha Mike.
India Lima Alpha Hotel.
Let's see.
We've got to miss you if you have a...
There she is.
Jamila Nasheed.
Senator.
Ballotopedia.
No, she's not in the Wikipedia.
No.
She's born in 1972.
Perfect.
Yeah, perfect.
She fits right into the demo.
Yeah.
Oh, she looks like a woman that's totally full of herself.
She's the chairman of the Urban Issues Committee, the Budget Committee, Special Standing Committee on Redistricting.
That's a good one.
She's all over the minimum wage thing.
That's part of the big...
Everyone's pushing that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
You know, minimum wage for what?
So all the McDonald's people, they already got the jobs.
Just get more money.
This is not going to help her constituency, but it's going to make her look good.
So let us look at this as analysts.
And we're going to presume for a moment that this is an opportunity.
An opportunity has presented itself.
We are the election crisis team.
And the first thing we do is we get sharp and ready.
Get the jet fueled up, sharp, and get ready to go.
And we need to have a message, and the underlying message is you need to get out and vote, and we need you to vote for Democrats.
How do we do that?
How do we portray that message?
I think we obviously start by getting the PR team, the publicists, to line up the Democrat politicians, local and national, to go on the shows and talk about this.
Then what is the motivator?
Without just saying it, and maybe that's the way to do it, how do we...
I think you do the classic bit where you want to do associative comparisons.
So you make all the Democrats go up there a black.
Republicans are not only white, but they're creepy guys.
Yeah, exactly.
And you put them on the same stage.
We have to have some creepy shots of them ducking into alleyways and into cars and doing no comment.
If you could get that, that would be great.
And then you get out to vote.
The white Democrats are going to vote Democrat because that's just what they do.
And the black Democrats are going to vote Democrat because that's what they do.
But they don't go out to vote, especially during these midterm, between presidential elections.
This is where people sneak.
You're going to run for office.
This is the time to do it because you can sneak in with really not You don't have to use all the horsepower available to you to get the office.
And so to get the black vote out, which is all it takes in these largely black states that have a lot of black Democrats, you've got to get them out.
Once you get them out, then they'll turn the election.
We'll watch.
We're going to watch this.
I would bet even money, even money, I'd give odds.
That when it's all said and done, the Missouri State Senate and the Missouri House of Representatives will pick up votes for the Democrats.
And President Obama has interrupted his vacation to speak from Martha's Vineyard.
He won't interrupt his vacation about the catastrophe going on in the Middle East.
He doesn't seem to interrupt for Ukraine, but he'll do it for this.
Okay, right.
That's for a reason.
Yes.
For votes.
Yeah, because people are already blaming him for losing votes.
So he has to come up and, you know, help.
He needs to help.
I can just imagine people calling him up.
President, you've got to help.
The situation's out of control.
We can pick up a number of seats in the Senate and a number of seats in the House.
Sharpton's already on his way.
If you just say something.
You don't want Sharpton to be the only voice out there, do you?
Yeah, that would work.
That's actually a good pick.
I could say, oh crap, we can't have Sharpton getting all the limelight.
Screw that guy.
Get me a podium.
Put some flags up.
Which he has.
And the blue backdrop.
He's got it all.
And he doesn't have to wear a tie.
He gets to wear the...
Yeah, right.
He gets to have his golf uniform.
Oh, I hate being so cynical, people.
But there you go.
I think you have nailed it, John.
And this is an excellent analysis.
It's very simple, and it's so simple that it's just painful to think that it is the reality of the situation.
Painful.
The president also did something.
Let's just move on because I think we're done on this topic, right?
Yeah.
We can't overanalyze any.
We'll just see what's going to happen.
We'll see things take place as the local and national politicians take advantage of the situation.
The president also...
I didn't know this was going on.
I didn't know this event existed, although it apparently was in Amsterdam a few years ago.
Maybe I did hear about it.
The president, again, talking to the base, I presume, to say, happy games, everybody.
Hello, everybody.
Welcome to the 2014 Gay Games.
Woo-hoo!
And to the thousands of athletes, coaches, family, and spectators from around the world, welcome to Ohio and the United States of America.
Did you know there was a Gay Games?
Oh yeah, they've always had gay games.
They started as the Gay Olympics, and then they got sued.
Yeah, right, exactly.
This was like, I think, 20 or 30 years ago, and then they changed it to the Gay Games.
The first one was 1982, I believe.
The Gay Games is the world's largest sporting and cultural event organized by and specifically for lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender athletes, artists, and musicians.
Well, since, I don't know how many percentage, but a high percentage of the normal Olympians are gay, I think that this is bogus.
Yes, I think it's not only bogus, it's a step back for emancipation of sexuality.
It would seem so.
Since 1982, the Gay Games have given lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender athletes and supporters around the world a chance to come together to compete, celebrate, and inspire others.
This is not modern.
I don't know why this is...
That's like having the Negro Baseball League come back.
Thank you.
Thank you.
This does not make any sense anymore.
If we are in the equality business, which I'm all for...
How can this still, this is, if anything, it's exclusionary.
Totally.
It's been remarkable to see the games thrive over the years.
We've also seen America change in that time.
Even since 2006, when the games were last held in the United States, in my hometown of Chicago.
We've come a long way in our commitment to the equal rights of LGBT people here and around the world.
By segregating their games.
But there's plenty of gay people who participate in the Olympic Games and are good and winning.
And it doesn't matter.
I'd forgotten about this.
And I hear the president go, yay gay games, what?
This is step back, people.
This isn't...
Musicians are puked.
Yes, it should be.
I'm proud of my administration's record and of the citizens who've helped to push for justice.
Now it says the games are open to all adults regardless of sexual orientation or athletic ability.
Well, yeah.
They have to put that there.
Yeah, but it's called the Olympic Games.
Go to the Olympic Games.
If anything, this is probably a marketing opportunity for sponsors.
Let's take a look at this website.
Hold on a second.
I'll bet you there's all kinds of...
Oh, of course.
Any opportunity you can come up with, it's all a matter of who's the promoter and what he can get out of it, or she.
Let's take a look at sponsors.
Who's sponsoring this event?
Be a sponsor.
Be a donor.
Okay.
Cleveland.
Let's see.
Cleveland Clinic.
What is all this?
The Marriott Human Rights Campaign.
Sure.
Coca-Cola.
Of course.
Lots of banking.
Oh.
Yeah.
Well, you know.
The gay community.
Lots of money.
Lots of money to take from them.
Lubrizol.
Whatever that is.
Yo.
Yeah.
Wow.
This is a big list of...
Oh, there's the gayorbits.com.
Okay.
Yeah, Gay Orbits.
I didn't know there was a...
It says the Gay Orbits.
Visit GayOrbits.com.
Yeah, there's a lot of hotels and restaurants that cater, literally, to the gays.
Specifically.
Yeah.
Okay.
Fine.
Gay Orbits is how you find those places.
Wow, the sponsor page is off the hook, John.
There's a lot of money in this.
This is big.
This is big, big business.
Labat Blue.
That's right.
LGBT getaways.
I think we should start the hipster games.
There's a lot of money to be made there.
And do you have a clip for the hipster games?
Please tell me you have a clip, no?
Somebody's got to make us a clip.
Oh, man.
Let's listen to the rest of this.
And I know some of you have come from places where it requires courage, even defiance, to come out, sometimes at great personal risk.
You should know that the United States stands with you and for your human rights, just as our athletes stand with you on the field at these games.
After all, the very idea of America is that no matter who you are, what you look like, where you come from, or who you love, you can make it if you try.
What?
That's who we are.
You can make it if you really try.
I think it's...
Is that a carpenter's lyric?
...continually strive to be.
We're also a country that loves competition, so let's get these games underway.
Good luck to the athletes, have a great time in Cleveland and Akron, and go Team USA! Woo!
We'll be in Cleveland and Akron and Fairbanks and you should play the Dean clip.
Oh, the Dean scream?
Yeah.
I found that to be very old-fashioned and I'm, as a representative of the people who support our LGBTQIAP brothers and sisters, I find this reprehensible.
You should not be participating in this.
There you have it.
Delta Coke.
If Coke sponsors something, that means there's lots of money to be made.
Yes, for sure.
Oh yeah, there's tons of money there.
Tons.
Alright, let me play one clip and then we'll look at our executive producers.
This is something that solidifies an assertion by you, and I'm happy we have the proof.
And I will play this for you as an ode to your intuition regarding Marie Harf.
What is your current thinking of her in regards to her colleague Jen Psaki?
She is out to get Jen Psaki fired or moved out of that position so she could take it over.
She is an ambitious blonde.
And there was a question in the August 12th press conference, which was Monday, I believe, regarding the Secretary of State, and I think President Barack Obama was certainly the Secretary of State's stay in Burma, in Myanmar, Burma, we'll call it, at a hotel in Although the hotel was not sanctioned by U.S. sanctions.
We have sanctions on everybody.
The owner of the hotel does have economic sanctions on him.
He's on the list.
And there was a discussion reporter saying, how can the Secretary of State, John Watermelonhead, J.F. Carey, as he signs his name, how can he stay in this hotel, which is owned by someone on the sanctioned list?
And Marie's argument is...
We specifically exclude hotels from sanctions even if it's owned by someone who's on the list.
That's what she's trying to get away with.
And then she said something very interesting.
Saying this complies with the letter of the law, it certainly doesn't comply with the spirit of the sanctions.
It does, actually, because sanctions are put in place on certain people.
And you're staying at a hotel that is owned by...
If we had wanted to sanction the hotel, we could have done that, too.
And there's a reason, I'm sure, that we didn't.
But how does allowing this person to benefit...
I think we might just have to agree to disagree on this.
Because when the Secretary of State and President Obama sit in Burma with Burmese leaders directly to their face and say, you need to do more to reform, I think that makes the case much more clearly than where the Secretary sleeps when he overnights there.
But when he stays at the hotel after that meeting, it kind of sends a wink-wink to the government that, yeah, well...
Not at all.
We can agree to disagree on this, Elise, and I think we've probably...
Right.
I mean, clearly a building's not going to profit.
People profit, right?
In theory, yes.
I don't know why the sanctions law was written and amended the way that it was.
I'm happy to check with our team.
I really am to see if there's more we can share on this.
Are you sure nobody was selling towels?
I'm a little...
I mean, Jen Psaki might have been stealing towels?
What?
Yeah.
Wow.
The reporter says, are you sure no one was stealing towels as a joke?
Yeah.
And Harf says, oh, Jen Psaki might have been.
Or we can share on this.
Are you sure nobody was selling towels?
I'm a little...
I mean, Jen Psaki, I don't know, you know.
You know, guys.
Meow!
Meow!
So I think you're right, John.
And if I were Jen Psaki...
I'd be pissed by that comment.
Oh, yeah.
She's still her boss.
I believe.
Maybe not.
Maybe they're equals.
Maybe they're equals, but that was inappropriate.
And completely validated your thinking.
It's a double whammy.
I appreciate it.
And I thank you for your courage.
And I say, in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
Well, in the morning to you, Adam Curry.
In the morning, all slips of tea, boots on the ground, subs in the water.
Banging things here.
All the dames and knights out there.
And in the morning to everyone in the chat room, noagendastream.com.
Good to have you all there.
Lined up, ready to go, depleting your $9.2 million value.
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Bad album aren't bad results is our analysis.
We need good art, and it's very hard to do.
And artists who have been on winning streaks for a long time, sometimes it doesn't happen, do not be discouraged.
We want to encourage you to continue continuously.
I think Martin J.J. went almost three years before he got one picked, and then he gets them all the time.
Right.
Something like that.
Noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can find all of the art submitted.
We use it for newsletters.
You can also print it out.
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You can just enjoy it.
It's a show all to its own.
We do have a few people to thank for being executive producers and associate executive producers for show 643.
We're kind of long-winded today, but we don't have so many donations that we can't read these things.
Brian...
Someplace in Missouri.
ITM Guardians of Reality, thanks for all the value for value.
I'm well overdue on returning at this donation coming from the capital of Just Getting By, proven by our 630 monument to the elbow macaroni as you enter the city.
So I don't know what city he's in, but whatever it is, there's an elbow macaroni on the outside, outskirts of town.
We even have a restaurant, Cheezology, that's dedicated to mac and cheese.
Why don't you look up Cheezology and figure out what town this is.
That's dedicated to mac and cheese with 16 varieties, including vegetarian and vegan options.
What?
How can you?
That doesn't make sense.
Anyways, cheese-ology.com.
Please send whatever karma is needed to our city at this time of chaos and riots.
Militant police force, maybe he's in Ferguson.
And Reverend Al adding his own brand of gasoline.
He's in Missouri.
Cheeseology is University City, Missouri.
Okay.
And I will cut his last name out as he requested in the edit.
Oh, well, I'll make a note.
On a sober note, I look forward to your analysis of all the crap going on with the shooting of Michael Brown.
I see a lot using the meme, no justice, no peace, which you've also seen related to not only Trayvon Martin, but to Israel-Palestine.
That makes sense.
A phrase seems to originate with what kicked off the L.A. Rodney King riots.
Ronny King riots.
Something just hit me.
I'll say it after the note.
A similar meme, No Peace Without Justice, is actually an NGO. Reverend Al has been shown up preaching in the day about not being too angry and that violence will make you a traitor to the memory of Michael Brown.
In the evening leading chants of No Justice, No Peace at a church and signing up young men as justice disciples.
He's even had a man standing behind him in a No Justice No Peace shirt with Mark Brown's picture on it.
And then our friend here, Brian's got all kinds of links, which we can put in the show notes.
Local black leaders don't even want Sharpton around.
Other stories of anonymous lynching cyber attacks on the city and releasing personal information on the family members apparently is going on too.
So, interesting mess.
I'm going to give him a rev al karma and I want to make one point about something that was in his notes.
There's no real conflict!
You've got karma.
So now that...
Thank you very much, Brian.
Now that we've established that this receives all the media attention purely for the votes, and I would agree the Democratic Party is a part of their strategy, their overall media strategy, now the Israel-Palestine-Gaza conflict makes sense.
Because if you're for Israel, you are clearly a crazy Republican.
You hear what I'm saying?
It's a possibility.
If you listen to Democracy Now and some of these other very progressive, the progressives generally speaking are free Palestine bumper sticker people.
They're all over Berkeley.
And you see all the stuff on the, you know, they hate Israel.
They're all Democrats.
You see a bunch of Democrat stickers and free Palestine.
Very common bumper sticker.
And so that would make sense.
Yeah, sure.
You want to do associative analysis.
So you...
Kind of produce something that has a ring of truth in your world.
In your world.
A ring of truth in your world.
I think this is the entire reason it's being presented that way.
Koch brothers!
And there's them, of course.
Yeah, those guys.
I'm surprised they haven't come up in the conversation more.
Oh, well, wait for it.
Yeah, they got to be careful when they attack the Koch brothers, because the Koch brothers essentially contribute to more liberal stuff than Republican stuff, from what I can tell, with the money they spend on PBS. Yes.
And I do want to point out, you've said essentially a number of times, and I just want to make sure you're also catching yourself.
No, I'm not even looking for it.
Yeah, you should.
Well, how about this for an idea?
I'm going to tell you to do something that I would normally, I have a distaste for.
But I've realized that over time it's very good and it works.
I can't do it to you because I haven't got my system rigged up that I can run sound through it.
But I want you to hit the buzzer.
Whenever you do that?
Okay.
Sure, because it could become annoying.
I find it very annoying, but I noticed, I believe, that it is a form of behavioral therapy.
So look out for it.
The words essentially will be the one.
Weird.
Weird.
I'm getting close to ending that one.
Now that I've got essentially because of you.
Yes, I know.
It's my fault.
I'm at fault.
And I'm catching myself still.
Which means I'm on the road to recovery.
But it's very difficult.
Alright, well give me the buzzer.
I'll give you the buzzer.
And I wanted to say that...
Yesterday I was on Tom Merritt's daily tech news show.
Yeah.
And he was very funny.
He said, do you find this, and I think it must have been about a phone, it was a tech show.
He said, do you find this unworldly, uncanny?
I said, Tom, have you been listening?
He's been listening.
Well, he probably listened to a couple episodes before you came on.
No, I think he listens a lot more.
I doubt it.
All right.
All right.
I don't see any donations.
He gave us some good love and plugs.
Yeah, okay.
Well, that's a plus.
You said there was some sort of screeching going on or something.
Oh, for some reason, well, he used Google Hangouts instead of Skype, but I'm not sure why, but that works for them because he does video, I guess.
And there was some kind of high-pitched whine that, because I was feeding back to him the same way I feed back to you on Skype, And I'm not sure what it was.
I couldn't hear it on this end.
But there was an annoying whine.
And then, of course, I was like, oh, well, can't you just plug in a USB mic?
Yeah, I don't have a USB mic.
And so it took me an hour.
And at this point, I've installed Chrome.
I'm doing everything I can.
I'm sweating.
So my hair is now flat, too.
Yes!
And I wind up, I have a Creative Labs EMU, you know, like a high-end USB interface, which I can plug this mic into.
And I had to download drivers and restart.
This is a Mac.
Download drivers on a Mac?
But yes.
And it was just, it was horrible.
And so then by the time, an hour later, you know, finally this is working.
I'm a hot, sweaty mess.
But I still propagated the formula, of course.
I did my job.
It was for the 10th anniversary of the Daily Source Code in podcasting.
Thanks for the flowers.
Oh, yeah.
No, you got them?
Did you get them?
Yeah.
All right.
Onward.
David Warner in another missing city, North Carolina, 30490.
This is a long note, but I read it over a couple of times.
I was going to put it aside and edit it down, but then I said, no, this is actually some good information.
For people out there who are sitting on their hands and not helping us.
304.90 from him in the morning.
Frickin' Frag has been a very long time since my last donation.
Please de-douche me.
And he wants it now.
Okay.
Okay, that was bad.
I really apologize.
You've been de-douched.
Douchebag was for me.
Okay, de-douched, yes.
Okay, after all the madness in this week's news cycle, I figured it was time I showed some support for your courageous endeavors again.
Since my first donation was Double Nickels on the Dime, I believe this donation will bring me full circle in backing the best podcast in the universe.
One of my favorite things about No Agenda is how it exposes the scams perpetrated by us, by both the government and corporations.
I've been trying to do this myself, though on a somewhat smaller scale, with a website I created a year ago, which may be of interest to you and your listeners.
The site's called What...
You pay for sports, www.whatyoupayforsports.com, and it's about the relationship between sports and cable TV. On the front page is an app with a list of cable networks that broadcast sports.
Click on the checkboxes next to the networks, and he goes on and on about this.
And you can see how much of your money gets funneled from your cable bill to a wide variety of pro and college sports leagues every year.
That money gets shipped to these leagues regardless of whether you watch sports on TV or not.
So as long as you get those channels, you're paying into the system.
I also, which is...
I can see what is his point here.
I also wrote an article on the site that details ESPN's ridiculously high carriage fees.
If you're one of 96 million plus homes that gets it, you're paying $77.88 a year for those channels.
Wow.
It's a lot.
Yeah.
Are all 96 million homes really turning into ESPN regularly?
This is a giant numbers game that's sucking money out of people's wallets and getting them to pay for games they don't watch.
This is not how media or sports is supposed to be.
If you don't watch sports, cable TV is a giant rip-off, and you should let your cable company know this by canceling your TV service.
Besides, why do you need to pay for cable news when you've got Crackpot and Buzzkill telling you what they're really saying?
Okay.
Now we go to Associate Executive Producer.
Thank you very much, David Warren.
That was a very nice note.
Appreciate that.
Thank you for your contribution.
Joseph Monty in Pittsfield, Massachusetts Nuts, 25515.
Hey guys, it's been way too long since my last donation, so I'm sending a full bite and a nibble to feed my guilt and support the best podcast in this or any other universe.
Your show, its news analysis and insight are invaluable.
Keep up the stellar work.
General karma is all I request.
You've got karma.
Thank you.
That's humbling.
Sir J.D. in San Jose, California, 24642.
24642, that means something.
Oh, that's the 246, right.
This is the one that came in last week.
Yes, yes.
The last show.
And this one shouldn't be on this thing.
It's okay.
He snuck in.
He snuck in, but we'll give it to him again.
He needed travel karma, but he already got the travel karma.
But today is when we actually add him to the list officially.
Sir JD. Right.
We'll give him the karma and thank you again.
You've got karma.
It's really...
We don't have a very sophisticated system.
PayPal is what it is.
Well, also when we bypass our own rules...
That's when it always screws up.
Yes.
It always screws up.
Now, Guillaume de Rosier Couture in Gatineau, Quebec.
222.22.
Long overdue and well-deserved.
If possible, I'd like a scotch recommendation from John, the sage of finer things.
Preferably something affordable to us slaves, unlike previous recommendations for Laphroaig 30, which cost about $1,000 a bottle.
Hey, when I had Laphroaig, I remember when Laphroaig 30 was $350.
And it was well worth that.
But $1,000 is way too much.
But gas was $0.50 a gallon back then, John.
You know, I think a good starter scotch is reasonably priced.
It's a little more expensive than the typical 12.
But I think, you know, start off with Macallan 12-year-old.
Yes.
If you can get Macallan, if you can decide to afford Macallan 18...
How much is a Macallan 12?
I was given a bottle of Macallan 12.
Is it...
As a gift.
Yeah.
I thought it was extremely tasty.
I don't think it was, you know, was it any less than an 18?
I don't think so.
No, the 18 is a little smoother, it's a little more scotchy.
It's a very, it's almost a definitive 18.
But the Macallan 12 is a very good scotch to start with.
And you can start to explore a little bit after you, you know, you get used to it.
And by the way, last night, Miss Mickey and I, I'm finishing up prep.
It's like 11.30, and we're sitting outside, and she says, Oh, would you like a drink?
She says, Oh, yeah, I'd love a scotch.
And she gives me the Jack Daniels, and she says, Oh, boy, that McAllen is good.
I'm like, What?
She finished off the McAllen and gave me the Jack.
Smart woman.
She gave you the jack.
Yep, she jacked me.
She jacked me.
I'll give one to myself.
So make your recommendation.
What do you think it should be?
McAllen 12.
Good recommendation.
What would that run for, McAllen 12?
I don't think it's 40.
Okay.
Very affordable.
And it is the official drink of Miss Mickey.
There you go.
Yeah, sanctioned.
Scotch is a bottomless pit of interest, so you get into it.
You can find some of your favorites.
There's a lot of Scotches that are tasty.
I believe I've told you that for Shefflin Somerset, one of my very first clients in 1993, 94, we built Scotch.com.
Had the URL and everything.
Ooh, Scotch.com?
That URL is worth more money than the company was.
Well, we registered for them.
It was not something we owned.
Nice.
They had certainly McAllen.
They had...
What else did they have?
I think they had the...
They're the importers of all of it, as far as I know.
They had a bar back, which they would put down at the office, filled.
Nice.
Yeah.
Good client.
I don't remember much of the meetings.
I'm sure.
And our last associate executive producer is Nadine Zanotti in Covina, California.
$200.
And she has a very interesting note.
I have not contributed to the show in a while.
So here it is.
Please de-douche me.
Okay.
You've been de-douched.
And please call out my husband, Aaron Marino, for not contributing.
Oh no!
Douchebag!
Sorry, but I have to do what is right.
Thank you for your courage.
You need to give everybody a karma shot.
She says, Merci pour votre courage, is what she says, actually.
You translate it on the fly.
You've got karma.
Wow, I hope that turns out okay there in the household.
I'm sure old Aaron will be chuckling to himself.
I'm sure he will.
He'll probably go like this.
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Maybe you could explain what that was referring to.
I'm not sure.
The New York Magazine article, what all this bad news is doing to us?
Oh, right.
Yeah, the news media.
Somebody sent this in, one of our producers.
Apparently, and there's a link to it in the newsletter, the Apparently, if you...
Of course, I think this has been known, and I think we've discussed it.
This happens every so often.
About once every year, somebody does a study on this.
People that watch the network, news, and all the rest of these operations, the cable news...
In fact, I have a number of clips here that will kind of prove the point.
Oh, good.
Goody-goody.
They get depressed.
Yes.
And they get bummed out.
And we don't, you know...
And it's just the bad...
It's because of the short...
I believe it's because of the short-circuiting of your logic.
And it's in the presentation...
We give you the same information, although from a different aspect and usually with more factual, different perspective.
It is the presentation, I think, that is making people really sick.
It's not just the news as it is.
But how it's brought and how it's pounded and how it's filmed and angles and voiced over and all of that.
Well, and also I get one other thing here, which is what I'm going to point out with these four clips from Sean Hannity.
Oh, goodness.
Is that they lie to you.
Yes.
They twist the stories, they lie, and they have agendas.
And the worst agenda...
I mean, this...
Sean Hannity, to me, is essentially...
Oh, hold on a second.
Let me just...
Essentially.
Sean Hannity to me...
Where did I use it?
You missed it.
You said Sean Hannity to me is essentially, and I hit the buzzer.
I'm just trying to figure out where it was.
Because you beat me at the end of it.
You've got to have your finger on the trigger.
You've got to interrupt me with that.
Yes, sir.
Sean Hannity is a stooge for the Republican Party in much the same way, and I would say he's an analog of the Rev.
It's probably the biggest insult I could throw at the guy.
But he is exactly the same way.
He just pushes some sort of agenda of some sort.
And let's play a couple of clips, and let's go over these.
By doing some little research on the flyers, we go and discuss this.
Now, he has got a bunch of different people on, and a couple I don't have, clips I didn't get, because I didn't have too many clips, where he shouts people down, or trying to be reasonable.
He has this one woman on who comes on to discuss...
The notion that if you're a Christian, you have to convert or die.
That meme is around.
You've heard it.
And supposedly ISIS is going around telling Christians that they have to convert or die.
And this is being promoted by the right-wing press.
Now, this woman actually...
And let's just say that this is the, as you said, the analog to the Rev.
This is to promote a presumably Republican...
Get the vote out.
Get people to vote Republican, exactly.
Find a reason to have Republicans on the show to get them to vote for you, right?
So, yes.
So I want to play this, Kennedy, Convert or Die, and then we're going to do a little research on what they're talking about here.
There's a woman that comes on and she discusses...
Now, my understanding of studying Islam is that when you're a Christian community...
In an Islamic state, you can remain so, but you have to pay an exorbitant tax.
Now, these guys supposedly are rousting everybody.
But that never made any sense.
So this woman actually says what is going on.
And actually, there's another thing you should buzz me on.
No, it's okay.
It's all right.
I'll let you slide.
She is saying exactly what's going on.
And he sent...
What?
Come on, man.
You're on the buzzer.
I didn't say anything.
I said...
Okay.
Esso Gasoline.
Yes.
She tells it like it is and he kind of moves to the next person without acknowledging anything she says.
This is the convert or die clue.
Other forces can come and save them.
Julie, let me ask you, let me ask Julie this question.
Explain the choice as people now have been pushed out of their homes and are in desperate need of humanitarian help.
Explain the choice that they were given.
Convert to Islam or die.
Yes, unlike the Christians, the ISIS sees these people as apostate, so the Christians were given the choice of either flee or stay and pay taxes or convert to Islam.
Unlike them, the Yazidis were given just the choice of you could convert or you're going to be dying.
Let me go back to you, Mark.
We showed some tape here.
Really?
Okay.
Let me go back to you, Mark.
Yeah.
Alright, so let's go to Wikipedia and look up the Yezidis.
Oh, well then, in that case, we need to...
Consult the book of knowledge!
Are these not the devil worshippers, John?
This is an interesting group, actually.
It's Y-E-Z-I-D-I, I think is one way of spelling it.
It's got a bunch of different ways.
And these are the people that are up on the mountain.
And these are the people that we were led to believe by the media are a bunch of...
Christians.
Yes.
In fact, the Pope sent a Cardinal to go and be a part of the solution.
Now, the actual Christians in the area are Caladians.
C-H-A-L-D-E-A-N. And the other guy who's on here is a Caladian.
She's a Yazidi.
And the Yazidis are actually Muslims.
It's a form of Sufism combined with Shia.
Or some people say there's a Zoroastrianism, and it's all in them.
Wiki's got two or three different entries for this operation, and it's spelled differently.
And they are considered apostates by the Sunnis.
The Sunnis in Pakistan have the same thing with another group.
What is an apostate?
Apostate means that you're not a believer.
You were, or you should be, because you're kind of part of the Klan, but you've gone off the deep end by going into these cults.
Curiously, by the way, I should mention that if you do any real research on Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda is Sufi.
And I think it could be argued that there are apostates too, but there's another debate that takes place elsewhere, and we're not going to do it on this show.
These people who argue over these differences in religion, they need reality television, man.
They need something to keep them busy.
This is nuts.
They don't have enough television, that's for sure.
Whatever the case is, these are the people that are on top of the mountain that we've been led to believe are Christians that have been run out of the neighborhood.
Yes, yes.
And then now they're critical of Obama, the Republicans are.
The Republicans are promoting this, by the way.
Yes.
For votes.
For votes.
We went and bombed this area.
There's a lot of Americans, and there are actually Christians, the Caladians and others, in the little town that's also an oil center in Kurdistan.
And we haven't done anything for these people on the mountain.
And we've been led to believe they're Christians.
They're not Christians.
They're Yazidi.
It's different.
And if you read some of the Christian publications, they try to make the claim that there's some connection to Christianity with these folks.
There is none.
And let us be blatantly honest.
If they're not real Christians, screw them.
That's essentially what...
How about their people?
Their people!
Their brown people!
We could do something for them, but I'm not going to do it under the guise of bullshit.
Right.
That's what bothers me.
I think, yeah, sure, let's go rescue these guys.
Yeah, just because they're people, they're human beings, not because they're Christians or whatever.
Right.
But let's reread.
I'm going to read from the Book of Knowledge.
Yazidi Kurds have a Kurdish culture.
According to some sources, their religion is linked to ancient Zoroastrianism and Sufism, while other sources view their religion as a combination of Shia and Sufi Islam with indigenous regional folk traditions, like their garb, just in a funny way.
They live primarily on the province, the Nineveh province of northern Iraq, a region once part of ancient Assyria, and they're also considered part of the Assyrians, Assyrians, along with the Caladians are too.
So anyway, so this is a lie.
And so this woman brings out the fact that the Christians are given the opportunity to pay taxes.
They're not just said convert or die.
It's these guys who have to convert or die.
Right.
So let's bring this up right away.
So Hannity goes right to the next person and doesn't say anything.
Right.
Hey, Mark.
So we go to part two where Hannity's got to put up this other bull crap, which is just disgusting.
Hannity, decapitation, part two.
Yes.
I have some stuff to say about that later, too.
So wait, wait, wait, wait.
Stop.
Start with, sorry.
Decapitated kids.
Part one, Hannity and decapitated kids.
Right.
Makes sense.
Tell us what they're telling you, because I keep reading about children being decapitated, their heads being put on posts, one kid cut in half.
I mean, atrocities to women on a scale that we've not seen since Nazi Germany.
Oh, yes.
Oh, yes.
Great.
Way to go.
Bring in the Nazis.
He brings in the visualization.
No facts of any sort.
No.
I've heard.
Children cut in half.
I like the kid cut in half.
There's a child.
Let's cut him in half.
Surely the president will be doing a press conference any moment now about the child cut in half.
Well, it doesn't seem likely.
Anyway, Hannity Decapitation Part 2, and there's some guy, this is a guy, I believe he's a Caladian.
Yes, absolutely.
There are thousands of...
Oh, wait, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
You gotta play, I gotta set this up.
Okay.
You heard part one.
Yes.
He says, tell me about the kids cut in half and the heads on a stick.
Yes.
Now listen to what the guy says about the kids cut in half and the heads on a stick.
It's a new snack from the Bisco.
Yes, absolutely.
There are thousands of children, women, elderly, who are dying from the starvation and from the thirst in the past eight to nine days.
What?
There are, you know, the people in Sinjar had the only safe heaven, which was the Sinjar Mountain, at the morning of Sunday.
And they were cut in half.
I didn't hear him say that.
There's no cut in half.
There's no decapitation.
They're starving to death now.
Well, this is...
Pick up your mind!
Do we...
We need video of this cut in half.
This is no good.
So we have, now here's Hannity and the 40,000 dead.
Ah, yes.
Another, I would invite people to do the math on the fly as this guy chats about this.
Isn't Israel those that want to wipe Israel off the map?
Aren't they facing those that have a desire for a caliphate?
Isn't Convert or Die a push by now the most radical Islamic radicals that are out there?
Isn't that a push for genocide?
Isn't that an example of a caliphate that they're pushing?
You know, it absolutely is.
Because ISIS knows no boundaries.
They just changed their name to ICE. They're going country to country and they want to eradicate Christianity from the world.
How can the CIA director of this president be so wrong?
He was completely out of touch.
And I can tell you from my people that are being massacred because they're refusing to convert.
All they want right now is a chance to live.
How many people do you estimate have been massacred?
Thousands.
At least, every day, around 500 since it started.
Wow.
So you're talking eight weeks and 540,000 at least.
Do you think 40,000 so far, 40,000 people have been slaughtered?
Either slaughtered or died because of food, water, diapers, clothes.
This is a global humanitarian crisis.
And the next president, whether it be Rubio or Clinton, they would have to fix this problem.
I think 4,000 is closer to the reality than 40,000.
Based on his method, based on the 500 a day for a day, 28,000.
Right.
Not 40.
Not 40.
Right.
Now, whatever the case is, Hannity was all over, again, this is just a blast of the Democrats, of this thing.
This is the Hannity goes after Brennan.
He's basing what he just said, the caliphate, which is...
They're going from country to country.
They're in Iraq.
I don't know what country to country they're talking about.
But whatever the case is, this is what he cites as the classic Obama boneheads.
Brennan is an idiot, and the CIA is full of crap.
They don't know what they're talking about.
He's out of touch, as the other guy said.
Now, I want you to listen.
This is one of the few things I've ever heard Brennan say that I actually agree with.
He nails it.
They taunt America.
They taunt Europe.
You see young kids that have been brainwashed and indoctrinated into this radicalism, and they talk about the caliphate.
John Brennan, CIA director back in 2011, I'm going to play the tape, literally said, senior adviser to Obama, said that the idea of an Islamic caliphate is absurd.
I want to play you his words and get your reaction to this.
Let's roll this tape.
Our strategy is also shaped by a deeper understanding of al-Qaeda's goals, strategy, and tactics that we have gained over the last decade.
I'm not talking about al-Qaeda's grandiose vision of global domination through a violent Islamic caliphate.
That vision is absurd, and we are not going to organize our counterterrorism policies against a feckless delusion that is never going to happen.
We are not going to elevate these thugs and their murderous aspirations into something larger than they are.
I'm all in on that.
Hold on.
Caliphate in Iraq I think I'm gonna crack my pants Nice.
So this guy essentially is...
A troublemaker full of crap.
You know, he's just short of Sharpton because he doesn't go out into the streets and cause trouble.
But it's the same thing.
There's lies, innuendo, groomer-mongering.
It's terrible.
This guy really is terrible.
Yes.
And he's just like, like I said, she's the analog of Sharpton on the other side.
And it's all about votes.
I would say probably yes.
He's the biggest promoter of the Republican agenda than anyone.
The other guys all claim they're semi-independent.
They're saying Fox is all in on getting Republican.
We know what Fox is.
We know.
It's a Democrat front.
That's the reason that this guy stands out like a sore thumb.
So I'm going to play a couple clips which relate to this and the promotion, not necessarily...
Well, the people who you'll be hearing from, of course, are also looking for votes.
But first, we need to go to one of our good old friends.
Kagan!
Fred Kagan, who has some...
I think this was on Fox.
He has some interesting insider info.
And please note that the Kagans are part of the neoconservative movement who believe there is an order in the world, and the order is run by them, and it includes knocking people in the line, however they need to do it, through propaganda and through death.
Look, we may be weary of war, but war is not weary of us.
What?
Yeah, that's a good one.
We may be weary of war, but war is not weary of us.
But war is not weary of us.
And the problem is that we have an Al-Qaeda splinter group here that it clearly has, and our intelligence community has clearly indicated, that it has the intention to attack Americans and probably to attack America.
And it has established de facto a state.
This is the first time we've ever seen an al-Qaeda state like this that has control over a major city and its resources that acquired radioactive materials from research institutions in Mosul.
They have radioactive materials.
Uh-oh.
Radioadaptions.
Dirty bomb in America.
Yeah!
Weaponry, and so on, that has an army.
That is a real serious threat to the United States of America and to our allies in the region and outside.
And if we don't take action to rein this in, then we have effectively decided that we actually are okay with having an al-Qaeda state with an al-Qaeda army in control of major population centers.
Yeah, and we can't have that, of course.
We can't have that.
Never mind that we run these people and we gave them the weapons and we gave them money and we set them up in Syria.
We're sending them back to Syria.
Never mind all that.
Here is Senator Lindsey Graham.
He's the cheerleader, man.
He loves this.
Of course we need to go out and fight ISIS. Or IS, as you...
I think they've rebranded IS, and for some reason, now people are...
These spokesholes are just now catching up to where we were months ago, and they're saying ISIS or ISIL, pick whichever one you want.
No.
No, no, you don't get to pick.
It's IS, Islamic State.
That's the new branding.
Okay?
That is what you need to stick with.
Yeah, that was a screw-up to begin with.
They had to rebrand.
It's like bringing out the new Coke.
It's a disaster.
Yeah.
Senator Graham, are you saying we should go back to war in Iraq?
I'm saying that Iraq and Syria combined represent a direct threat to our homeland.
The day the president raised his right hand to become president for a second time, his constitutional responsibility as commander-in-chief trumps any political promise.
What is going on in Washington when the FBI Director, when the Head of National Intelligence, the CIA, the Homeland Security Secretary, tells every member of Congress, including the President, we're about to be attacked in a serious way because of the threat emanating from Syria and Iraq?
His responsibility as president is to defend this nation.
If he does not go on the offensive against ISIS, ISIL, whatever you want to call these guys, they are coming here.
This is just not about Baghdad.
This is just not about Syria.
It is about our homeland.
And if we get attacked because he has no strategy to protect us, then he will have committed a blunder for the ages.
Okay.
Hold on a second.
Yes, thank you.
Are these people clinically insane?
Yes.
They have no Navy.
How are they going to get over here?
They have no Air Force.
There's a bunch of ragtag a-holes shooting up the place in the back of pickup trucks.
How are they getting over here?
Why would they come over here?
What is troubling to me...
Are they kidding us?
Does Graham take the public?
This is the problem with the Republicans.
They think everyone's an idiot.
Well, let me add John McCain to the mix then.
Well, these people that are coming to fight on the side of ISIS are returning to their countries in Europe, and there's a hundred of them that we are tracking in the United States.
As I mentioned to you already, one was in Syria, came back to the United States, and then went back to Syria and blew himself up.
Mr.
Baghdadi, the leader of ISIS, when he left our camp, Bukha, the camp in Iraq, said, see you in New York.
If you read what they're saying, we are the enemy.
They want to destroy us.
They're getting stronger all the time.
They say to see you in New York, you're probably going to be a tourist.
Yes.
A thousand young men from around the world who are now fighting on their side.
This ISIS is metastasizing throughout the region.
Cancer.
And their goal, as they have stated openly time after time, is the destruction of the United States of America.
Yes.
It's not John McCain that's saying it.
It's the Director of National Intelligence.
It sounds like John McCain.
Get this clip.
It sounds like John McCain.
The thing is John McCain.
The Attorney General.
Yeah.
Okay, I got one more.
I got another one along these lines.
Here we have Anderson Pooper.
He's got this ISIS analysis going on.
And then he brings in our guy.
Bob Baer.
Bob Baer.
Got it.
You say that there's a significant risk of retaliatory attacks inside the United States if American forces take out a large number of ISIS fighters.
You really believe that?
I've heard that.
And the thing is, there are Americans that have gone to Syria and Iraq to fight with ISIS. They have American passports.
They can easily come back to the country.
American passport.
We've been over this for a long time.
Number two, I'm hearing from officials on the Mexican border that they believe, and I can't confirm this, That ISIS members are coming back that don't have American passports walking across the border.
They said it's a significant threat and they clearly have bad intentions.
And so I think the level of terrorism, while not absolutely certain, has gone way up here at the threat of it.
Bobby, in terms of other jihadist organizations we've seen, where does ISIS rate?
I think they're off the charts.
I think they make everything that's come before them seem tame.
Because?
Because in terms of efficiency and organization, you can compare them with the Taliban.
But in terms of sheer brutality, this is a new law.
I can't think of any other terrorist group, even Al-Qaeda, that seems to enjoy the act of slaughtering people as much as these guys do.
Some call it like a death cult.
It is a death cult.
Alright, stop.
Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
This is crazy.
This is just crazy.
These people need to be bound, gagged, tarred and feathered, driven out of town.
You need to go and shut down these television stations violently, if necessary.
This is terrorism of the highest degree.
Terrorism, Anderson Pooper, I'm looking at you.
Terrorism that you are now enacting on the small group, but still the viewers.
It is being propagated by the terrorists, McCain and Lindsey Graham.
They are terrorizing the American people, enabled by the completely compromised terrorist television propaganda networks.
This is not okay anymore.
So what are you saying?
Anderson Pooper, please, the logical question is, what do we do if all this is taking place and our obvious police state is not working, it is not able to stop these people who enjoy slaughtering children, cutting them in half, what is the logical next step?
Should we just...
Annihilate the Middle East?
Making one firebomb, one big nuclear wasteland?
What else do we do?
We've already rebelized it.
What else do we do?
This turns my stomach, this horrible propaganda, this terrorism, this is terrorizing people.
Stop it!
By the way, I want to mention with Bob Barr, the CIA guy who is now an analyst for CNN. He's a pro, so he knows how to not really do too many tells.
But I watched this two or three times.
At the very beginning of his lies, I heard this, I heard that, that's what I heard.
Yeah, yeah.
He couldn't help himself.
A little tongue tip?
A little eyeball to the right.
Just a little bit.
Just a little eyeball to the right.
Little tongue popping out.
I'm going to be lying now.
No tongue, but just the eyeball thing.
It was just really subtle, but I had to watch it two or three times to catch it.
It was very quick.
He could not keep it.
Keep from doing that.
I guess he needs to be slapped around by something.
Now, when it comes down to the question I just asked, I think the obvious question is, is our goal now to wipe out these horrible, this horrible IS, Islamic State, formerly known as ISIL, ISIS, take your pick.
Thank you, Lindsey Graham.
Is it our goal to annihilate them, to wipe them out, to pound these guys down because they cut children in half, they rape women, they hang men?
Forget all the oil stuff that it's really about.
Forget all that.
And this is the appropriate question asked.
At the State Department of Marie Harf.
Ooh!
Yes, thank you.
There's a broader question here, which is what you're getting at.
How do we fight ISIL long-term in Iraq and in Syria?
There's a broader strategy in place, and it's one that's not, at the end of the day, fully an American military solution.
We've been very clear about that.
The Iraqi security forces working with the Kurds need to regroup, and they need to retrain, and they need to re-equip, and we're going to help them do that.
But at the end of the day, that's really the long-term strategy here.
So, Murray, as a long-term goal then, is it the goal of the United States to defeat ISIS? Well, clearly we want to see this terrorist group not be able to threaten people anymore.
You want to, but is that the goal?
Is it the goal of the United States to defeat it?
Well, of course the goal is to defeat them operationally, yes.
But what does that mean when you're looking at a terrorist group?
Yeah, what does that mean?
What does that mean when you're looking at their ideology?
If you look very specifically at what they've done in Iraq, what we want to do is not allow them to take more territory, not allow them to move on Erbil, of course, further down towards Baghdad, and help the Iraqis push them back, basically retake territory.
So we're helping the Iraqis do that now.
But it's a broader question.
Look, you're always going to have a terrorist It's how you contain it and it's how you, when they try to go after your interests as we've seen them do in Syria, in Iraq, how we can bring our capabilities to bear to fight that.
It's different every place you look and you have to use different tools to fight that threat.
You know what that is, Marie Harf?
Bullshit!
Big bunch of steaming pile of it.
You are a horrible person just lying.
Go away.
What is she even talking about?
Vague generalities.
Now this is the shot heard around the world, and I have a debunking of it simultaneously.
And by the way, can I stop you for a second?
Yeah, sure.
I want to mention that you'd think one of the things that...
I've said this before, I'll say it again.
I said it maybe six, seven, eight shows ago.
Um...
We've always had these issues with asymmetric warfare, where you don't have an enemy that doesn't have an operational headquarters.
It's scattered.
It's networked.
It's the idea of the Al Qaeda network.
There's no place you can bomb.
This ISIS, ISIL, IS, whatever you want to call it, advertising, this operation is setting up shop as a country, as a caliphate, they want to call it a caliphate, but they're essentially just a part of Baghdad, a part of Iraq, and the eastern part of Syria, which is an old section of the, if you look in the maps, before World War II. Which is exactly where we want them to block any pipeline activity.
And it would be a good spot for them to be.
And this is not anything to do.
But they're operational as a unitary government with a central location, a headquarters.
This is the kind of thing that we can fight against because we can just bomb them into oblivion.
knowing where all their offices are.
So I don't see how this is remotely any sort of threat under any circumstances.
This is a negative threat.
This is less of a threat than random characters.
And again, with 100 Americans that have passports that have fought in Syria, probably half of which are spies, we're tracking them.
We know where they are.
When they come back, we'll just keep an eye on them.
It's not a big deal.
This is nonsense.
No, it is terrorism.
Propagated by the political elite to garner votes, of course, to continue their power and to further their agenda, which is that of energy, turf, and hookers and blow.
And here is watermelon head John Kerry, John F. Kerry, who I now am beginning to despise.
The more you know him, the less you like him.
And this is being touted, this clip of him, in fact, but also the pictures, you've seen it on the social medias, you've seen it on the book faces, all that stuff.
This image, perhaps even an iconic photograph, that Julia has just referred to, is really one of the most disturbing, stomach-turning, grotesque Photographs ever displayed.
No, it's not Kerry's passport picture.
Of a seven-year-old child holding a severed head up with pride and with the support and encouragement of a parent with brothers there.
This is fantastic.
Finally, they've got something that really, really works.
Because every parent can find empathy for this.
Empathy and disgust and fear and a million emotions.
You've got children.
You've got gory, severed heads.
You've got parents.
Everything you want is finally in this.
This is really, really good.
That child should be in school.
That child should be out learning about a future.
That child should be playing.
That child should be at Foxconn making iPhones.
With other kids.
Not holding a separate head and out in the field.
He should not be holding a separate head.
I'm telling you, this is not a good thing.
No.
This is utterly disgraceful.
And this ideology is without one redeeming quality of offering people a job or a healthcare system or an education or anything other than saying don't live any other way but the way we tell you.
Hold on a second.
Jobs, healthcare, and education.
This is like the Obama talking points.
Yeah, and he relates it to, this is how it works.
You shock people.
You open up their minds with an emotion.
Do we know that that photo wasn't actually produced in a studio in Lankwood?
Well, thank you for asking.
I have, from Australia, I have a report.
It was a very long, very detailed report, which I've cut down to two minutes.
It was 11 minutes long.
I think it's important that we hear this...
This report, the child apparently is a son of Khalid Sharouf, an Australian, who is not...
Well, in fact, if you listen to this report, he's pretty much an actor.
And with very low mental capacity and it brings the entire credibility of this picture and the occurrences into question.
This week the image of an Australian boy holding a severed head became an international symbol of the brutality of the militant group now known as the Islamic State.
The seven-year-old is the son of an Australian terrorist Khaled Sharouf, a minor player in the country's biggest terrorism plot.
Who took himself and his children to the killing fields of Syria earlier this year.
Sharouf styles himself an Islamic warrior.
But in fact, he's a former drug addict and petty criminal with a long history of mental illness.
A pathetic figure in the words of the judge who sentenced him to jail.
Khalid Sharouf first came to public notice in 2005 when he was charged with eight other Sydney men over the biggest terrorism plot in Australian history.
Raids at Sharouf's South West Sydney house uncovered instructions on how to make bombs, two dozen bottles of chemical precursors for explosives and videos of beheadings and executions.
Sharouf was charged with possessing items to be used for a terrorist act.
Six clocks and 140 batteries he stole from a local Big W store.
Please know that that was what he was charged with, with stealing clocks and batteries.
And he had some, like, shampoo.
And it was a laughing stock, this matter.
We covered it on the show.
It was just funny.
And these guys didn't go away forever.
It was just, you know, hey, you're not doing the right thing.
You got...
Bomb-making materials, you've downloaded the stupid PDF, and you've got batteries and clocks.
Boo-hoo!
Sidney Barrister, Charles Water Street, represented one of the other men charged and observed Sharouf in court.
The one characteristic that I observed was that he was really a class clown, that much of his attitude and much of his tactics with the other group was to get a laugh.
And one put it down to dim-wittedness a little bit, but he was really playing the clown.
He would be, but at least likely to be holding a head in Iraq if one had to pick it.
He's clearly over there.
Playing a role of the master terrorist when he's anything but, of course.
You know, he's a very sad, pathetic figure.
He remains a highly unintelligent man who has no perception of himself.
He is in fact no threat to us in a real sense.
Now, the only danger he represents, I think, is that he is cast as a sort of proselytiser of this radical Islam image and Facebook and Twitter and all that sort of thing.
Carry that message across here to young men who might be in the position he was.
Young men who are angry, dissatisfied, rebellious, looking for a cause.
The guy is a phony.
Phony baloney, and I don't believe for a minute that this picture is portraying the accurate story.
Let me put it that way.
We have no proof.
And all we have is more pictures from social media, YouTube videos, which has become synonymous with proof and fact, and it is not.
It is not.
Think about this, people.
I'm going to talk to you directly.
When you post a picture of yourself on Facebook, we call it a selfie.
How many times did you retake the picture?
What filters did you add?
What did you crop out?
You are posting lies about yourself on social media.
But these lies are deemed as truth by your friends.
You are living a lie and you are now being manipulated by the very same tactics you yourself use, which is why you accept it.
Thank you.
I knew you'd like that.
And quite honestly, you should be ashamed of yourself.
But you can't help it.
Well, you can't.
You know, people are harangued by the media with this bullcrap.
What can you do?
I mean, even the staunchest no agenda listener who has a clue and they kind of get it.
We pointed this out in the newsletter.
You know, you can see most of this.
But you turn on this stuff and then it starts coming at you and coming at you and coming at you.
And believe me, it happens to us.
Yes, of course.
Occasionally, one of us will go and buy into some bullcrap.
It doesn't happen a lot because we're so conscientious.
We actually spend too much time listening to the other stuff before we venture into Hannity.
Well, it's even worse than that because we, of course, become cynical and wary of everything, which pretty much ruins my life.
How about you?
I've always been this way.
Well, good.
I've always been this grouchy guy who should be retired, according to Ryan Block.
Hey, you know, can I say something?
I am not one for violence, but I will stand up for you.
And this Ryan Blockhead, you've got to stop this, man.
Stop this.
Don't talk about my friend like that.
But it's like, I stand up for you.
I know you do, but no one says anything nasty about me.
It was about delusions.
But the point is, is that this is rough.
This is a rough go.
And that picture.
And then when you have government officials.
But it's even worse.
The picture is now pixelated.
It's now pixelated.
You can barely find the original picture anymore.
So you can't do any analysis of it.
It's astonishing to me that the point we're at is beyond...
I don't know what to say.
It's depressing in some odd way.
Okay, I got a little side thing we can do, just a little bit.
You know, I was thinking about this.
How much analysis do we listen?
We listen.
We're on C-SPAN. We're getting stuff from overseas.
I have a little clip from the Finnish radio show that somebody says.
I have the one part that we need to hear.
But I'm thinking, how good are...
This is not Ask Adam.
This one is Guess the Spokeshole.
Okay.
We don't have a jingle for Guess the Spokeshole.
Now, this is not really a spokeshole.
This is a government official.
And I want to play this clip.
I want you to identify the person.
Try to ignore the um, uh, uh, uh, part of it.
And tell me who this is.
You were relatively modest in touting your commitment to increase another $5 billion of investment in Africa.
I just want to thank you and applaud Coca-Cola's leadership and its partnership with the new Alliance for Food Security and Nutrition, which...
It's an effort that many in this room have joined the United States and some of our partners internationally in supporting.
It is bringing opportunity and food security to people all over the continent, in particular to women and women farmers.
I recognize the voice.
I know you would.
I knew this.
When I heard this, I thought about this as a gimmick on the show.
And I said, I know you could get it, but I don't think you will because it's slightly out of context.
It's someone that we really haven't been talking about.
It sounds like...
Well, it's funny, and I'm recognizing the voice.
It's in an auditorium, so it's a little, you know, the Africa and the food security, it's a little bit out of context for me normally.
Initially, I want to say this has got to be one of these Silicon Valley women.
That's what I initially thought.
Yeah, no.
Then I thought Valerie Jarrett is what I thought.
Close.
Susan Rice.
Ah, wow.
Yeah, it's the cadence.
But, oh man, I could have known that, I think.
You would have.
I knew you'd recognize the voice.
That was a dirty trick I just played.
Yeah.
That was a good one, though.
Oh, yeah.
Because I heard her, too, and I'm thinking, first of all, why is she there?
And what is she talking about?
And why is she kissing Coca-Cola's butt?
Well, you know, this is the national security advisor for Obama, who used to be, of course, for people out there who are keeping score, UN, our UN spokeshole.
And then they were going to make her secretary of state.
And then the Republicans or somebody's submarine that she's an idiot.
And is she also 4'10", like Madeline Albright?
She's a shorty.
Yeah, I think so.
I don't know what her height is, but she's definitely a shorty.
It is...
I'm sorry I did that to you.
No, that's okay.
Just listening to that, actually, it made me more depressed.
It did not make me any happier.
It did not make me happier because it's just...
Is there a way out, man?
Are we going to see any end to this insanity?
No, this show would be over.
We're going to have a show.
This is great stuff.
Well, this is true.
But holy macaroni!
It never ends.
You've never seen it this bad, have you?
You've never seen it this bad.
Historically, since I was a student of history, it's pretty much par for the course.
We just happen to be digging into...
We're in a period where the smoke screen is so extreme that when you dig under the smoke screen and start to uncover the bull crap, it just looks like it's horrible.
But I don't think it's any different than it's ever been.
My feeling is what is an international health disaster is social media.
It is an international health disaster.
I think that WHO woman, that Hong Kong Chinese person who's weird, should call it such.
No, social media.
That's the one thing that's different.
The social media has amplified everything.
It's made everything worse.
And I think it's hurt people more than anything else.
Yes, yes.
I mean, the over-the-fence gossip in the farming community has got nothing on this.
Yeah, yeah.
It is an international health disaster of epidemic proportion...
Epidemic proportion.
It even uses the same terms as a pandemic, such as viral.
Right.
That's a great, great point.
We can probably continue this analysis.
But when I say that people are living a lie, or perhaps the lie is the life, I'm not quite sure which way to look at it.
When you must realize that you are not living in reality.
You are not portraying reality.
You are portraying a version of yourself that you approve of, which is not based in the moment of...
And I'm saying specifically about selfies, just as an example.
Selfies.
Selfies.
Selfies!
Which, of course, by itself is a very narcissistic issue.
And...
Do you ever run into these people that are so good at selfies?
There's a woman I know.
Every time I see her, I try to avoid her.
Because the first thing she does, she says, hello.
You know who you are.
She's not listening to this.
She's a Democrat.
Within one fell swoop, she'll grab you and pull you to her and have a selfie of the two of you before you can blink.
It's just like an automatic grab, shoot, and the shot is perfectly framed.
I find it extremely distressing.
I don't like being in somebody else's selfie, and I don't like to be grabbed and have a selfie made of me, especially when it catches me off guard.
But of course, now it's happened, I can avoid it.
I don't like selfies.
I'm a very unphotogenic person.
This is not true, but okay.
I think you are very photogenic.
It's the way I see it.
Of course, it's the way you see it.
And if you were really narcissistic enough to be doing selfies, you would be filtering and cropping.
It really is the retaking thing that bugs me.
Hold on, this is no good.
Do it again.
Take a picture.
Check if you want.
Is it good yet?
No.
Oh, please take it again.
We'll smile again.
Here's what I have noticed about myself.
I've not brought this up yet, but I have to now.
We have some friends in Austin, different friends, and we go out and we have a dinner or we go to the theater and at some point a picture of the four of us or the six of us, let's say the four of us, will show up on social media.
And everyone else that we know says, oh, like, like, like, so great.
Oh, yes.
Oh, well, you look fantastic.
Boy, you are beautiful.
Okay, fine.
I'm going to presume that everybody likes me.
We look beautiful.
We're fabulous.
Fabulous couple.
And then three days later, I see our same friends with other friends of ours.
And we're not in the picture.
It's just them.
And it's the same thing.
And I'm not sure what it is.
Fabulous.
Fabulous.
But I'm like, so what is this life that we're living?
And should I feel bad that I was excluded?
Or were they talking about us when they had that dinner the way we were talking about them when we had that dinner?
It is an illness.
It is sick.
you I agree with you.
I think it is sick.
There's not much you can do about it.
It's all over the place.
I avoid a lot of events, because I've always avoided events, but more so now than ever, because if you go to Flickr, and if you like to do research on people, you can go to Flickr or their Facebook page or wherever you want to go, and you can find out if they're heavy drinkers, you can find out if they like to go, woo!
You can find out all these different things.
Or if they are just a very pathetic, wannabe burlesque dancer with huge tummy flab.
Yeah, that can happen.
Whatever the case is, there is a lot of...
It's just...
I don't know.
The scene is...
Here's how I'm feeling.
Many tribes, American Indian tribes, and indigenous people do not want their picture taken.
They believe it is stealing your soul.
And I, in some fashion, feel like my soul is being chipped away at when this takes place.
I feel a little robbed.
I'm just...
That's the best feeling I can give you.
I feel a little robbed of my soul with not just the picture being taken, but how it is used, it's tagged, it's out there.
Pictures are great.
I mean, I love having a record of my life.
There's nothing wrong with that, but this is so incessantly ill that And I participate in it too.
I'm not a selfie taker.
I don't do this ever.
But I'm in selfies, of course.
And I take them for other people.
And I put up with, you know, we take a picture.
But every single time I see the same people with other people.
And I'm like, just interchange the people.
What are we, just cutouts?
Remember on the beach boardwalks, you used to have this kind of a cutout.
You'd have this muscle man and a bathing beauty with the two holes.
You'd stick your head through there and then take a picture of that.
Yeah, that's kind of what we're talking about.
On a kind of a ridiculous scale.
I don't know what...
Photoshop my...
You want to put me in your selfie?
Photoshop my head in there.
You know that head on a stick.
We had that...
Your head on...
Yeah, we had the John C. DeVore head on a stick.
We had that when I was in Detroit.
They had your head on a stick.
Very good.
And we took a bunch of pictures with your head on a stick.
I'm all for that.
And it was fine.
You seemed to be almost like you were there.
I'm all for that.
Yeah, that's fine.
Do that.
Anyway, it is an international health crisis.
And yes, the fact that we use words like viral proves that there is something going on like this.
And I'm sure we can find other words and phrases that fit in.
Let's ask our producers to get us some more words.
Let's put the producers to work.
Producers, if we think about this as a health issue, this social media, give us some of the indicators that are out there that we can't come up with at the top of our head.
These indicators, such as the term virus, viral, and all the rest of it.
And there's other ones, and I'm sure that there's somebody out there now screaming at the speakers, saying, yeah, it's such and such, you can't get it, blah, blah, blah.
So we want to hear that.
That'll be a good thing to do.
All right.
What's your other pet peeve?
No, I just wanted to read two notes, and then I think we should thank some people.
Brandon Scott says, and he's a longtime producer of the show.
It's been a few months.
Since I've heard a no agenda show, unfortunately on my way to work, I hit a 250-pound doe, wrecked my bike and my body, and wound up waiting 45 minutes for a Mercy Flight helicopter to take me to hospital where I was in coma for 11 days.
I'm home now.
He went to hospital and he's in coma?
Where is he?
In England?
Actually, I think I read it that way.
Oh!
I had to wait 45 minutes for Mercy Flight Helicopter to take me to the hospital, and I had an 11-day coma.
I think he was in an 11-day coma.
I'm home now, and I have blown my right ear, broke the bone in my head behind my ear along with my shoulder, but my helmet saved my head pretty well.
I'm all right besides my head injury, but every day I feel better.
He says he feels bad, he missed the show, but of course we want to give him some healing karma, Brandon.
We're glad you're okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, when you hit one of these deer with your car, you get killed because a damn thing doesn't get killed.
It comes through the windshield and kicks you to death.
Very common thing in Washington State.
So in this case, he hit it with his motorcycle.
Ouch.
Right.
And, you know, that...
And then Aaron, who's a monthly donor producer as well, I've recently gotten my PBS loving mother-in-law into the show, and I was trying to play her the clip you guys played ages ago where the head of PBS or possibly the Corporation for Public Broadcasting was talking about donor levels being down.
It was the NPR lady.
Correct.
Love, love, love the new search features in the show notes, but I can't find this clip to play for her.
Please help when you have a moment.
And I thought I would play that.
This is, who now is no longer there, the head of NPR, and she's asked about the finances of the National Public Radio, which is a similar system to PBS, where they have...
Not advertising, or do they?
And it's time to play this clip.
Okay, moving on to money.
How are NPR's corporate underwriting revenues holding up in the recession?
And what about foundation grants?
Two different stories.
Underwriting is down.
It's down for everybody.
I mean, this is the area that is most down for us, is in sponsorship, underwriting, advertising, call it whatever you want.
I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda.
It's just advertising, people.
It's just advertising.
So we have a few people to thank, including Gentry Nalin in Damascus, Oregon, 133.33, and it's the year 2133, and I'm riding around a steampunk police car, and out of nowhere I see double rainbows.
So then he decided to apparently donate.
Anonymous Colorado Springs, $100.
Enjoy the show.
The recent 97% analysis motivated to donate.
We're going to do an article on that eventually.
Paul Webb, 7777.
Sack of sevens from Twickenham.
Middlesex, UK. And we got him down the birthday list.
We do.
Ad Hestermans.
And Chum.
Ad Hestermans.
Ad Hestermans.
First, you missed Brian Williams somehow.
Oh.
Oh, right.
Brian Williams sends a check in like every month with 7373.
He's in Streamwood, Illinois.
Odd Hastermons in Tom.
He says 12-12-12 Black Silent Night Without a Ring.
What?
Many, many times.
That's probably being stolen.
I think it's being stolen, too.
Eric is good about this.
We've been back and forth.
I think it keeps getting stolen.
Come up with a different address.
6969.
Sorry, I'll work on that.
Christina Caldwell in Queensland, Australia's got another birthday coming up.
In Brisbane, 6789.
And then Sir D.H. Slammer, there's a note I have to read, but I want you to guess something.
Where do you think the note is?
It's downstairs.
No.
It's across the room.
It's in the red book.
It's at the other computer.
It's in Washington.
It's...
I already got it.
It's across the room.
Across the room.
Yes, across the room.
Brooke Baldwin on CNN. Brooke Baldwin?
Yeah, she's kind of cute.
How do you get from Sir DH Slammer to Brooke Baldwin?
So in other words, when I asked you to do the question, you started surfing the net?
No, I had the TV on.
Oh.
I had a big close-up of her.
Oh.
Well, hold on a second.
Let's take time out.
Yeah.
Brooke Baldwin?
Is she one of the Baldwin brothers?
Yeah.
She is Alec's younger brother.
It was this one particular shot and I never really noticed it before.
She's an airhead.
Oh, there she is.
Oh, she's not a blonde.
No.
She's kind of an Erin Burnett clone.
Burnett has not really bounced back yet from everything.
From what's everything?
The child.
Oh, is that what it is?
I wonder why she's only on her show once a week.
Yeah, I think it was rough.
It's been rough for her.
That could be, but she looks great now, though, I have to say.
You think Burnett looks great?
Oh, no, not Burnett.
I'm sorry.
I'm thinking of...
No, she looks like Trish Reagan.
Anyway, who looks great.
Anyway, that's enough of this.
Sorry.
Let's go to the note from...
It was filler.
You were getting the note, and I was filling.
Yes, you were.
And you did good work, by the way.
Thank you.
It was ass-filling and bear cream, or whatever it was.
Buzz, pot, and crock kills.
My daughter, Samona, not Samoa or Sonoma.
Did I mess it up?
Yes.
I'm sorry.
It's feeling left out of the No Agenda family experience.
We already did this.
He sent a note and we read this.
Yes, this is different.
Another note came in again.
I'm sorry.
Since Dad's a knight, Mom is on her way to the damehood, and Brother Andrew...
I think what happened is that this note was written before you did all the...
We gave her a bunch of advice.
Yes, exactly.
Exactly.
Okay.
And I wanted to point out, based upon the advice, I said, daughter, do not get on any or in any vehicle with two wheels or less.
And then you made a crack joke about the Segway, and I wanted to point out, the guy who invented the Segway died on the Segway.
He ran off the cliff in the stupid Segway.
Yes.
I think he was the CEO. He wasn't the inventor.
The inventor was Dean Kamen.
The CEO. The CEO. Dangerous.
Four wheels.
That's it.
Yeah.
And I have another note here from somebody, but it's to be read, I guess, separately some other time.
Alright, onward.
Daniel Kepler in Phoenix, Arizona, 66-60.
DH Slammer was 66-60, by the way.
Brian Navarro, Los Angeles, California, 66-60.
Sean McCorkle, 64-30 in Arlington, Virginia.
Finally some money from Virginia.
Nicholas Oman in Thief River Falls, Minnesota Nuts.
He hasn't donated in a while, and he's given us $56.78.
Eric's Harjo in Cardiff, $56.
I will give you a jobs karma at the end.
Nicholas Samaras in Charlottesville, Virginia.
We got a birthday shout out for him.
Bruce Johnson in Adina, Minnesota.
Double nickels on the dime.
And Michael Dwyer in Bryan, Texas.
Double nickels on the dime.
That comes in as a check every month.
Chris Terhart in Abbotsford, British Columbia.
5225 with another birthday call out.
That's a palindrome.
5-2-2-5.
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No Agenda has not wasted time in the least.
Thanks to you and your family for all the work you've done and continue to do.
Please add me to the birthday list.
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Well, that's from Louis Toomage.
You're reading one line below.
There's two yellows.
Oh, Louis.
Oh, yeah, they run together.
It's weird.
It's a part of the random number.
Hold on a second.
You said weird.
Oh, thanks.
Lewis Turnage in Gaffney, South Carolina, $50, and he's on the birthday list this trip.
Brandon's, now these are all $50.
We didn't have a lot of donations for this show, I might add.
That's why we're filling with anecdotal material.
About Brooke Baldwin.
Brooke Baldwin.
The younger Baldwin brother.
And Aaron Burnett's baby.
That's right, people.
Okay.
Lewis was 50.
These are all 50s.
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It's Sir Mike, I believe.
I could be wrong.
Paul, Parts Unknown.
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One of my favorite names.
Bogdan LeCendro.
If that is indeed your real name, Bogdan, in Irvine, Texas, which is right, you should go look this guy up.
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Hey, we got a letter from...
Oh.
Oh, we have no knightings.
We have no knightings.
No knightings.
I know it's bad.
But we did get a letter from a knight.
Okay.
This is from Sir Mark.
Oh, Sir Mark, well, Baron of Tokyo.
Baron of Tokyo.
I find it amazing that a search for Snowden broken glasses only brings up no agenda.
Is every reporter, moreover, every photographer and art director, blind and or asleep?
This is pretty incredible.
I discussed this with Tom Merritt yesterday, I have to say.
There was a little bit of cheating on you, but he brought it up.
This is the Wired article.
Completely objective, of course, as they sent Bamford over to interview him, which means that it's kind of a one-sided...
It's an interview, and I don't really know why this continues to happen, but if you look at the...
At the big cover photo.
In fact, I have a little clip of how it came to be.
This is the man U.S. officials have called a traitor and a coward, wrapping himself in the American flag.
That even as he extends his stay in Putin's Russia.
Out from the shadows.
My name is Ed Snowden.
I used to work for the government, and now I work for the public.
In front of the flashbulbs.
Appearing at times exhausted, at times defiant, wearing a bouncer's t-shirt.
Did you feel like he took a different tact in making this a little bit more about himself and your piece than he has previously?
He came in actually quite nervous to the shoot and he said, I love my country, I feel like a patriot.
And it was at that moment that we knew that we had the cover.
Yes.
So let's discuss this for a moment, because apparently you need to have sound effects of cameras to make it all kind of accentuate what you're trying to say.
So the picture of Ed Snowden on the cover is again with the Burberry glasses.
They are in fact addressed in the article with a missing nose pad.
With the missing nose pad, no one says anything about this.
In addition, that Snowden is seen out in Moscow not wearing glasses.
This can only mean, and if you read the Wired article, they even say his trademark Burberry glasses.
We are now looking at Brand Snowden.
And this brings everything he says now, everything that is coming from him into huge question.
He is now becoming and turning himself and allowing himself to be turned into an icon.
I have an issue with this.
This is not okay.
Branding, baby!
Branding!
Yeah.
Why is it not okay?
I mean, the guy's got to make a dollar.
He's got to have those crappy glasses on with the broken thing.
I don't understand why he doesn't get these glasses fixed.
Did they stop making that model?
He can't find anything that looks like those glasses.
Those glasses are what he looks best in in a selfie.
I mean, he's had those glasses since we know since he began this episode.
It may have been even gone to Hawaii.
Yes.
Well, since the Hong Kong interview that Laura Poitras did, that's where we first noticed it.
I'll give you the one that noticed it.
Yeah.
Well, because I'm a glasses wearer, and from time to time, I will lose a nose pad.
In America, certainly, you can go into any optician's office.
They will fix it for free and say, when you want a new pair of glasses, I hope you come back.
I don't think you get charged for that ever.
And Moscow is not the backwater of the world.
You have...
Gucci, and you have really big names there.
All the names, all the fashion, everything is there.
This should not be an issue.
But now I'm very, very suspicious.
He's clearly only wearing these glasses when he is in character.
And it's a giveaway.
Yeah, that might be a giveaway.
He is in character when he is doing this, and you bring up a good point.
He has to make a buck.
What is he living off of?
Who is paying for him?
How is he getting that money?
I had to transfer some money.
I didn't know they were Burberry.
Burberry.
Burberry, whatever.
Whatever the case is, that's a plug.
That's got to be worth a couple grand.
Well, Burberry should be incensed and outraged that they are broken.
Yeah, you're right.
But how is he making money?
And I'm asking this specifically.
We know the issues between the United States and Russia or anywhere in Europe, anywhere money might be coming from.
I had to send some money to the Netherlands for my birthday party, which I am not in charge of.
And Miki said, okay, you need to transfer some money, half for the party.
And it's not a huge amount, but I have to send it.
Can I send PayPal?
No, they don't have PayPal, of course.
So I do a bank transfer.
Oh my god.
That goes 50 bucks.
40.
Oh my god.
Real thank you.
An outrageous amount.
And they locked my...
I got phone calls.
Texts are going off.
The app is exploding for the bank.
I get phone calls.
This is the fraud protection press.
Option 3.
Citizen, citizen.
You are funding terrorism.
And so I finally, you know, I call and I say, you know, what's going on?
Well, and I have to prove who I am.
I got to input my PIN number on the phone.
Crazy security, double whatever, and then, do you know the party who this money is going to and what is it for?
It says it right there, Adam Curry birthday party, half.
And it took another half hour to approve this money.
Who was this?
What bank?
It's irrelevant.
It doesn't matter.
Mechanics Bank can't even do this.
They can't even send a wire.
Believe me, I've tried with them.
Their brain starts to fry if you ask for that.
Incoming transfer is even worse.
But it doesn't matter.
This is the same with any bank when you try to transfer money overseas.
So how is Ed Snowden getting his money?
And it's not any different with PayPal.
That gets rejected and sent back.
The guy needs money, and he's real money.
He's booking hotel rooms for his interviews.
Someone is running stuff for him, for Bran Snowden, and now I'm just very tired of this.
And it's no longer...
It's not cute anymore.
Wired with sending...
I think if we call up any one of his attorneys, and everybody's his attorney, I might point out, Radek is his attorney, Ben Wisner is his attorney, everybody's his attorney, where's his dad with his attorney, where's his girlfriend?
Come on, people!
You're being hoodwinked.
I'm not sure exactly how, but you're being hoodwinked.
And why?
Well, I think one part of this is to turn back the outsourcing of our intelligence community, which is happening.
I'm seeing that for sure.
A lot of outsourcing being closed down.
It all has to be in-house, which is growth of government, quite honestly.
So that's part of it.
Look, I'm all for whistleblowers.
I'm all for information.
I don't even know if I agree to the idea of putting the whole slew of documents out there.
I think it's kind of innocuous and somewhat harmless what has been done.
We know that The Guardian and Intercept and everybody checks all their stories with the administration, with the Department of Justice, Department of Defense.
Whether they say something or not, they always check it.
New York Times says that they've all admitted this.
If it truly was a huge problem, then it would be stopped or something would take place.
These are no heroes.
They're just writing up the story.
So it's okay.
We found out a little bit of stuff.
Nothing really all that crazy and revealing.
I don't feel.
Nothing we didn't know or couldn't suppose.
And what did we get?
A bunch of PowerPoint slides.
I didn't see any code.
You see any code?
Any compiled code?
Any source code of any of these systems and cracks that they have?
No.
PowerPoint slides, of which multiple slides are missing.
From each deck.
But okay.
So there's information coming out.
But then what?
Now Edward Snowden, Bran Snowden, who clearly only wears his glasses when he is the Ed Snowden, is some kind of hero, like Abbie Hoffman with a flag?
Sorry for the obscure reference, people.
Not that obscure.
For a lot of people.
We're old.
What am I supposed to think of this?
I'm not buying it anymore.
What do you think you're supposed to think?
You're supposed to be all in.
He's a genuine whistleblower patriot.
Or a scumbag, depending on what side of the political spectrum.
Maybe it's just to sort the different people.
At some point, you think Snowden's a patriot?
The question comes up by the media.
Do you think Snowden's a patriot or a traitor?
From day one, that was the meme on all the talk shows.
If anything, it was content.
Yeah.
So Edward Snowden, his content, I still believe that he was working on a mission on behalf of the CIA. Well, you and I believe this, too.
Yes.
He's referring to his, still has his card.
Oh, yeah.
And then he said, mission accomplished.
And talked about his mission.
And we know that there's a battle between the CIA and the NSA for money.
Yeah.
So it's a money grab.
A money grab and?
And there's going back and forth.
I think the outsourcing thing is also a part of it.
That seems to be a big part of it.
That seems to be a part of it.
Yeah, because this is an example of where outsourcing fails.
So you bring this up in, you know, in front of Congress that we need more money because outsourcing failed.
We thought it was a good idea at the time, but this is a good example of what happened.
And we got that a-hole Alexander out.
He was annoying.
Little weenie boy who was running the NSA. We didn't like him anyway.
Right.
So that's a plus.
Him and a Star Trek bridge.
A lot of that.
But don't you find it also unsettling, at the very least, these interviews?
If you have a conference, just set up a Google Hangout.
It's never Skype, by the way.
It's a Google Hangout.
Okay.
Fine.
Set up a Google Hangout.
And you can get Ed Snowden calling in.
If you're Putin, you can have him calling.
He's on every show.
I'm surprised he's not on Al Sharpton's show.
Hey, Rev!
He's at every conference.
And then he's even better if you get Ellsberg or someone else, some other whistleblower to talk to him.
And somehow that's...
It's content.
You know what it is?
It's just content at this point.
Edward Snowden, content.
That's what he is.
He's just a content man.
Brand Snowden, content.
What really...
Was the value of this Wired article other than it got great coverage because of the cover photo, and I'm sure it sold.
Is there any other value?
There was some revelation in there about how we took down the Syrian internet.
Whatever.
SonicNet went out last week.
No news coverage on that.
Come on.
Yeah, I agree with all this.
I agree with you 100% on this.
I was asked specifically not to talk about this and I'm not going to talk about it, but I'm going to play a clip because it reflects how I think.
The world lost a smile.
You know what I mean?
Especially the suicide.
I think there's something in these medicines that people are taking for depression that's making them depressed and making them commit suicide.
I swear.
I don't think it's depression.
I think it's It's chemical.
I think there's some kind of antidepressant drug that they're taking that's causing them to have visions and making them kill themselves.
There's drugs out there that if you take it and if you have certain descent, it will make you a little crazy.
Like certain allergy medicines, I just feel like it's chemical.
I don't think it's just him going, hey, I'm going to slit my wrist and choke myself.
I just think that there's something else that's in there.
I mean, he was such a joyful dude, man.
I just can't...
My heart broke.
Marlon Wayans.
Who said that?
Well...
That's all.
As you know...
I was asked specifically not to talk about it.
Yeah, well...
Most of the information is now public domain.
We did get a letter from a pharmacist.
Who said, and this is kind of known too, is that people that put these people on antidepressants, and it's not as though they're always having thoughts of suicide anyway.
It's just that some of the antidepressants give you the guts to actually commit suicide when you normally wouldn't.
And this is what needs to be looked into.
And we've been tracking this a lot of times.
Since day one of this show.
In the United States, certainly.
When you have a teen suicide, and we've had a lot of these gay teenager gets cyberbullied, commits suicide.
The lawyers who show up, and we've tracked this.
I can't remember which episode.
did a big deconstruction of it.
The lawyers who show up are lawyers who are also involved in pharmaceutical affairs.
And what you rarely hear, or if you hear it, it is not deconstructed or discussed, is that these children who were cyber bullied, and sometimes even because of just who they were, how they were feeling with their sexuality, are put on medication.
And it is, although a very, I think it's an insignificant 2% to 4% increase in children of suicides when they're on medication, I believe the percentage of suicides where medication was involved is extremely high.
Extremely high.
And that is, of course, you're not going to have the traditional media talk about that.
It is the bread and butter of a lot of their business.
Right, they make too much money.
They cannot do that.
But one of these days, this is going to end because they're going to get these guys and they're going to arrest them all.
It seems to me they're...
Well, I mean, it's interesting that...
That story we had with a girl dropped dead right after visiting the doctor to get an HPV shot.
And this sort of thing, which I have to say, people should appreciate the No Agenda show, because we're not anti-vaxxers by any means.
But we have an objective look at what's going on with the drug industry.
This drug industry is horrible.
And they're just, you know, they're not doing anything about antibiotics, which is really what's needed.
There's no, people should look this up, there's no phage research being done in this country.
It's all being done in Russia and other places.
But it's one of the very promising technologies for just dealing with bacteria.
None of that's being done.
It's all about these, you know, hard-on pills, hair loss pills.
Antidepressants, never-ending blood pressure pills you have to take for the rest of your life.
And now there's lawsuits going on about Lipitor and some of these other lawsuits.
But they've already made so many billions of dollars, they can push these lawsuits off.
They don't care.
This is a horrible situation.
Pfizer shuts down all its research on antibiotics because they're making too much money doing other stuff.
They don't see the reason to do the other thing.
There's a problem with giving somebody an antibiotic and it cures them.
Where's your follow-up sale?
Everything's got to be follow-up sales.
You've got to keep pumping vaccines.
What's your pipeline, man?
It's just, you know, this is a mess.
And now we have this.
Yes, it is.
And obviously, the United States, certainly, of Gitmo Nation, one of the few countries that allows pharmaceuticals to be advertised on television.
Most countries don't allow that.
No, I know.
That's actually been a plague.
The advertising on television.
Because the public is so stupid.
Ask your doctor if XYZ is right for you.
So these people go in and they ask their doctor.
And some of these doctors, by the way, have been corrupted.
Oh, not some.
All.
All of them.
They owe this huge money.
Not my doctor.
Huge money.
Man, that's just mean.
That's mean, man.
Yeah, man.
It's mean.
So, meanwhile, we have this very creepy commentary.
This guy, the head of the CDC, is everywhere.
Oh, this is the guy that...
The Fauci guy?
No, no, no.
Not Fauci.
The other guy.
Thompson, Thomas, whatever.
That guy.
Yeah, I got it.
Who I think is one of the guys.
He's like an Ebola expert, too.
So this guy's on and he's on some one of these Commonwealth Club, one of these meetings where he's sitting in a chair with a bunch of other people yakking about one thing or another.
And I want to play this because he drops a little bomb at the end that is like...
I don't know why anybody doesn't just...
This relates back to my commentary about Ebola being developed in the laboratory in Fort Detrick.
And this is always, you know, it's bullshit, it's conspiracy stuff.
Just listen to this.
We can focus on stopping these outbreaks, and that's something that we will certainly do.
Or we can focus not only on stopping these outbreaks, but also on putting in place the laboratories, the disease detectives, the emergency response systems that will find, stop, and prevent future outbreaks of Ebola and other threats.
We do face in this country a perfect storm of vulnerability with emerging infections like Ebola, resistant infections like the ones we discussed in our last hearing, intentionally created infections which remain a real threat.
Intentionally created?
What?
That's what I said.
What?
Wait a minute.
Was there more to this?
How can this be?
He didn't say anything.
He just kept talking.
They just put that right in there, just dropped that bomb.
I cut it off there.
Because from then on, it was just yak, yak, yak.
And it had nothing to do with it.
But that's what he said.
Play that little end again.
Okay.
...in our last hearing.
Intentionally created infections which remain a real threat.
And he didn't say intentionally created by Al-Qaeda?
That's it.
No, that was, I'm telling you, I could put it in context, I could have a longer clip.
Believe me, that was just in the middle of nowhere.
Well, you know what that is?
Clip of the day.
Oh, yeah.
About time.
Yeah, about time, indeed.
Finally.
Wow.
Wow.
Yeah.
And let me guess, the moderator of the panel immediately said, hey, what intentional disease intentionally created?
No.
No, nobody said anything.
I am putting this into the evergreen bin.
We need a copy of it, at least.
There you go.
It's in the evergreen bin.
No, that was just that.
Wow.
This is what we do.
We catch this stuff for you.
That's what the No Agenda show is good for.
And we do other things.
We report on news that is severely underreported, such as the visa issue in the United States.
And I have an insider.
Of course, we have everybody.
We have people everywhere.
We have our people on the ground.
We have boots on the ground everywhere.
This is anonymous, obviously.
In regards to the consular consolidated database issue, I wanted to share some insights on the program itself since I work at the National Passport Center and have been affected by the outage.
The system is used for more than just visa applications.
And the biggest issue is that it is a system that integrates a number of programs into one portal.
Oh, yes.
If one system is down, it affects the whole of CCD. And that is interesting because it sounds like it actually adds an article about the FBI making use of one aspect of CCD through our law enforcement branch, diplomatic security.
Like most government programs, this was designed to have a life cycle of 10 years and is now on year 14.
So we are currently waiting for the new program to be finished once they get done playing games with contracts and bring the new people up to speed.
The system is now functioning, but due to the huge backlog of applications on both passport and visa sections, it is currently being used as needed only.
So I'm hearing a couple of things.
Now, let me just stop you there.
Now, a software company, a real software company, let's say like Microsoft, when they release Windows 7, they're already long since started on Windows 8.
Yes.
So I would assume that the government creates systems that are going to be 10 years life cycle.
They would have started on that new system at least five years earlier.
And I'll bet they did.
Oh, this could be.
Never mind.
I have no reason to doubt that.
But it also sounds to me like there were other branches of government using the system, and perhaps it was their issue, their portion of it, and they may have corrupted some data.
We are not getting the full story, and I don't believe this producer is a dude named Ben.
as just a user of the system.
But there is, again, and we saw the president just the other day with his new IT specialist, whatever bullcrap that is, dude named Ben in the White House, Did you see that?
There was a big thing and he had IT specialists.
He was improving and simplifying digital services.
Obama takes steps to improve government technology.
Maybe he knows something's on the way.
Like another huge glitch.
This does not bode well at all.
And, of course, there's no reporting that now the system appears to be working, but that maybe some of the FBI systems were slowing it down.
And due to the huge backlog, I'm not quite sure I understand the statement here, the backlog of applications on both the passport and visa section, it is currently being used as needed only.
I'm not quite sure what that means.
So I went to Canada.
Monday.
Were you forced?
Was this a kidnapping?
Yes, I was forced to go to Canada.
It would be a form of torture.
Just kidding, Canadians.
You know, the weird thing, you go to Canada, the first thing you have to do is you have to set your watch back three years.
But that's another thing.
So I went to Canada.
I love Victoria, Canada is one of the prettiest places in the world.
And we went there to wander around.
And so I paid more careful attention to the passport control.
Hmm.
And passport control seems to be all coming into the country, into the United States.
Passport control seems to be pretty much on the Canadian side.
They have Canadians checking your passport when you're coming over, and they're looking at the picture, and he holds it up, you know, and looks at you, and looks at the picture.
There's no issue going out?
Or is this going out?
No, that was coming in.
Going out, yeah, going out, you go through some sort of passport control All I can say is that the American side of the whole thing is pretty...
I think if you wanted to sneak into the country and you had a passport that was real, I think you could do it through these touristy things that are all up and down the northern border.
I don't think it'd be that difficult.
Because they don't seem to be connected to anything.
Well, but does that mean that ISIS or IS califators could come in with their radiological dirty bombs and kill us?
No, they'd be coming in that way.
They could kill us?
I'm not sure what you could get away with, but it just seems to me that it'd be...
It was different than I remember it.
They used to be kind of more hard ass on the American side than they are now.
And they used to be pretty hard ass on the Canadian side where they always ask you if you're bringing in guns.
But we went, of course, as foot traffic.
And I think the foot traffic gets a different kind of.
You walked across the border?
No, you got on a boat.
Oh.
We walked on a boat, and the boat took us over there, and then we got out of the boat and then wandered around, and then...
I got some good photos.
I'm going to post some of these photos.
They have, like, around certain parts of town, there's a big thing on a telephone pole that's a box that says, needle recycling or needle disposal unit for needles.
Oh, really?
In the middle of town, yeah.
It's, like, right there.
You put it in there.
For drug addicts or diabetes?
Yeah, I guess there's a lot of drug addicts in Victoria.
And here's the weirdest thing I want to bring.
This is what I actually want to bring up.
Can I just...
Was it really not of this earth, uncanny and unearthly?
No, it was.
It was actually not of this earth.
Okay.
So here's the strangest thing that's going on, and I hooked up an antenna to the television to pick up Canadian HDTV, which every time I leave, Mimi unhooks it.
I think she just listens to stuff off the Roku.
Anyway...
I'm scanning the channels and there's an Indian channel.
All Hindu.
Coming in from Canada?
Yeah.
And it's just a whole channel.
So I'm listening to the radio.
There's a Hindu station, radio station, playing Indian music, Bollywood stuff.
from canada and then i go over there and there is new a crap load of indian restaurants that weren't there before there's indians a huge contingent now i know the canadians like to sell citizenships and they tend to be around a quarter of a million dollars really hold on so we'll stop right there i i I can't just apply and go work there and pay taxes.
I have to buy it?
You could do it the old-fashioned way.
Oh, how foolish of me.
Yes, of course.
That would be just a loser.
They used to have a $250,000 fee during it.
I remember in the 90s when the Chinese were freaking out.
It's Hong Kong Chinese in 90s before they switched over in 97.
They were freaking out.
And they were buying up Canadian citizenships left and right to the point where Vancouver, in particular, is filled with dynamite modern Chinese restaurants.
I mean, just great places.
Cool.
And now a lot of them have gone back, but the restaurants remain.
And something happened, because now, and I would like to, if anybody knows anything about this, we've got Canadian listeners, and we've got Indian listeners, a couple.
What is going on with this Indian exodus to Canada?
I'd never heard about it.
I've never read about it.
There's very little written about it.
But it's obviously taking place.
So we wouldn't have an Indian TV station and Indian radio stations.
I believe there's more than one.
And a lot of Indian news in the regular news coverage.
And there's Indians.
Indians have shown up.
Maybe they just want to get out.
I think it's smart money.
We've got the new guy, Modi, taking over there.
Maybe people are seeing him writing on the wall, perhaps.
All I know is that this is something we have to follow and keep tabs on.
Good.
We'll do that.
A couple other things we want to keep our eye on.
We have, from the F Russia department, Pussy Riot will be in the new season of House of Cards.
Activists that they are.
What does House of Cards have to do with them?
It'll be something political, and it'll be the House of Cards new season will probably propagate the...
The anti-Russia, anti-Putin.
Yeah, Putin is a complete a-hole.
Putin!
And the great thing is, you don't even need to have the actual members.
You just put two chicks with one of those baklava things.
What do you call them?
Ski mask.
You're good to go.
Baklava.
Whatever you call it.
Tastes like honey.
Prime Minister Erdogan, re-elected.
In Turkey.
So nothing happened there.
Shocker!
Yeah, nothing happened there.
Something that is brand new, of course, is the new puppet in the Iraqi government.
Oh yeah, right.
We need to talk about that guy.
He is Haider al-Abadi.
And, although not the guy who we heard about, but he is definitely an interesting fellow.
He was born in Baghdad in 1952.
And, of course, like any other good Baghdadi, received his doctorate from the University of Manchester in Britain.
This is where you go.
He was key advisor to Maliki in Iraq's first post-invasion elected government.
The issue, of course, is that Maliki is not having this.
He's not stepping down, even though the president called Haider al-Abadi and said, hey, congratulations on the job you have, but you don't really have it.
And it seems like there is a standoff with Maliki, who has armed troops who are loyal to him.
I think he should get to Switzerland as fast as he can, but apparently he doesn't think so.
Well, would you say that perhaps he is a patriot to his country of Iraq and does not want the obvious shills to come in?
He is one of the obvious shills, but not one of our shills.
Exactly.
Whose shill is he then?
He's a shill for Iran, I think.
He's a Shia, so he's got to be shilling for that contingent.
The Iran thing is very interesting, and this brings us to...
George Clooney!
George Clooney!
He's a spy!
George Clooney, who, as we know, has a hand-picked fiancé.
She is fantastic.
She is an attorney.
She was asked by the United Nations Human Rights Council to sit on a three-person panel.
A pretty big job that she was asked to be a part of.
And she is...
Where is she from...
I want to say she is...
Was she Persian or something?
Yes, I believe so.
So she's turned this down, but she remains very critical of Israel and the Gaza...
Israel-Gaza fracas.
And Clooney is...
Something's very strange with George.
Now, we have word that he may possibly run for governor of California, which would make total sense.
No, he doesn't have the chops for it.
He has the look.
He's not a stand-alone guy.
He needs a handler with him.
I mean, she's not going to be able to be his handler at the podium.
I mean, maybe.
But it's going to look kind of sketchy.
But he can remember his lines.
He doesn't need to do much else.
I mean, he can engage in dialogue.
Have you ever heard him even give a speech?
Yeah, you're right.
They could be scripted.
If you script him, I think he's okay.
I don't know, but okay.
Well, he was caught off guard by Voice of America.
At a, it looked like a red carpet event.
And he started off, and I think I had left, maybe I cut it out of the clip, but he was doing the Iranian hand snap.
Have you seen this?
No.
It's like, it happened just before the show, so I didn't have time to Google it.
Apparently there is a finger snap thing that Iranians do, and he was able to do that.
But we'll have to look that up.
I will look it up.
And you looked that up while I played this clip, and he was asked about filmmakers, Iranian filmmakers, apparently the best movies are being made in Iran now, according to George, and he has a little kicker here where he, I think he let the truth slip out accidentally, and we have to question who he's spying for.
Thank you so much.
Yeah.
Yeah, there is.
That's exciting.
Oh, you have three big ones this year, too.
Three coming up.
It looks really good.
And also, we might even have a little nuclear negotiation coming through.
Did you see that today?
It's interesting.
I hope so.
Yeah.
I mean, listen.
There are three or four countries right now that are doing some of the most interesting filmmaking.
And Iran is one of them.
Mexico, obviously, because it's an interesting Mexican filmmaker.
But Iran has...
And then they ask a question.
Well, they're very brave for making a film.
They're very brave for doing the kind of things they want to do.
And your hope is that as Iran becomes more and more integrated into the world sort of conversation, you would hope that banning them would seem...
He says, as Iran becomes more integrated into the United States, I mean into the world...
Thank you.
Yeah, he's working for the CIA. I don't see how it could be anything else.
Yeah, probably.
I mean, with his background, the kind of handlers he had, where he's always showing up, all the rest of it has got to be.
I mean, who else would it be?
Defense?
No, he's not going to be in the Defense Department.
No, no.
If we know anything about the agency, they like manly men, philandering, chicks, no problem, drinking, no problem, drugs out of the question.
Because that's the business.
We don't do drugs.
And I think Clooney, he's that guy.
Yeah, he's perfect.
He's got the chicks.
He knows how to drink.
He looks good.
He can read a script.
What more do you want?
I think it's dynamite.
dynamite.
And what was this finger snap thing?
Did you look it up while we were on?
Yeah, yeah.
There's a number of people can look it up under Iranian finger snap, and it's actually suggested.
And there's a couple of videos, and this girl shows you how to do it.
You hold your hand in some funny, awkward way, and it's like the way we do our thumb snap thing, you know?
It's called the Persian snap I see here.
Only they do it some other way.
I mean, I'll have to look this over because it makes a loud noise.
Beshkan.
And this Iranian girl is happy as, you know, she thinks it's great.
So I don't know.
So he knows how to do that.
Okay.
Well, we'll all know how to do it by next show, which will be Sunday.
Kids everywhere will be doing it.
It's the new Rage.
Why not?
It's the new Power Rangers.
Or something like that.
Watch it dirty, leave it tough on that.
iPhone's my phone.
The way I see it, the only good phone's a landline, and the phone should be made out of Bakelite.
That's right, everybody.
Time for tech news.
John, do we have tech news?
There's no tech news today.
Why not?
There's no new phones.
In the morning!
Onward.
Let me see.
You had the tech grouch there.
Someone made that for us.
Get the little tech grouch clips.
You got something there.
Something worth money.
A lot of Wilders, Geert Wilders is...
Making a lot of noise in the Netherlands because of the ISIS demonstrations.
There apparently were a group of people who were supporting IS and demonstrating in the Netherlands and Wilder says, hey, we should send the army to go knock their heads around.
This is, of course, an issue.
But it all seems to be part of the plan.
Get Europe all riled up.
Get everybody fighting each other.
Everybody hating each other.
All about religion.
There we go again.
And Euroland, this deflationary thing that you kind of deconstructed a bit on the last episode, seems to be spreading.
And Germany, and now there's, I don't know if you, did you guys do a DHM plug?
I didn't see one.
No, no, we didn't do one this week.
We skipped a week.
Yeah, see, I missed it.
Yeah, you missed the skipping.
Okay, what do I have here?
Italy contracting after GDP shrunk by 0.2%, but the big worry is about Germany.
Had you heard any of this?
That Germany seems that maybe there's some bad news coming, and that the European Central Bank obviously is trying to fight deflation with negative interest rates and all this, and with unlimited quantitative easing?
We'll be discussing it on the next DHM Plugged on Tuesday.
Okay.
Which means you don't know?
Did I say that?
Yeah, I don't know.
You're withholding?
I'm saying I don't know.
I don't know.
But we will look into it, and I got a mouse in my pocket.
We're both going to look into it, and we'll see what happens.
It doesn't sound good.
No.
It won't be good for us.
It sounds problematic.
Well, I think that your original 2017 war in Europe...
Possible.
Well, the war should be...
It's going to be...
Okay.
We'll go over those numbers later.
I do have a clip I want to play.
Get it out of the way.
Okay.
The only reason I want to get this out of the way, because there's two things about this clip.
This clip was sent to us by one of our producers, and it turned out to be on Finnish radio.
And this is the guy who took Dennis Rodman to North Korea twice.
And his name's Terwilliger.
Joseph Terwilliger.
He's a young sounding guy.
I think he's pretty young.
And this is on Finnish radio.
So there's a lot of Finnish in here, although I clipped most of it out.
So we just have Terwilliger speaking in English because most of the Finns can speak English.
As I listen to this clip, which has a couple of good little tidbits about North Korea, my thinking is why the mainstream media has a certain opinion of North Korea and Kim Jong-un and the rest of it.
Why doesn't somebody on one of these networks go to the trouble of asking this guy to come on so he can tell some stories?
It's just beyond me that I have to get this clip from Finland.
Yeah.
Okay.
Joseph, the main reason you're here, you've met Kim Jong-un in North Korea, the North Korean leader.
First of all, I want to ask, from our point of view, he seems like an evil Bond villain or something like that.
He's trying to take over the world or something like that.
How do you feel?
I mean, he was very friendly and warm with us.
I don't think anybody really thinks that the DPRK wants to take over the world.
I mean, they just want to survive, right?
So, I mean, all of the issue with nuclear weapons and all of that is basically to prevent other countries from trying to end the regime.
So I don't think they have aggressive policy against the rest of the world.
I mean, he's very friendly.
He was very warm with us.
Yeah.
What do you think about those rumors that tells us that Kim Jong-un has executed his uncle?
Well, let me put it this way.
They had rumors that he'd executed this other woman, who they alleged was his ex-girlfriend, and we met her recently.
On both trips.
Every time we were there, we met with her.
So that was only a rumor?
That was a complete rumor.
Apparently it was sourced to something like the Chinese version of The Onion.
And the media just ran with it because people are willing to believe anything you tell them.
That happened in North Korea without evidence because it's really hard to get evidence.
I'm not saying anything other than that.
That is completely untrue.
As to the uncle, he would probably have been the first person that South Korea would have executed when they took over if they had taken over North Korea.
He wasn't like an old guy in a rocking chair with a pipe.
You know, he was the guy running Gulag System.
Okay.
No, that doesn't fit with the story.
Now, the one thing that got me, the takeaway for, and this goes on and on, and we can post the whole thing.
I like that.
I want to hear it.
That's good.
Yeah, post the whole thing.
And you might get another tidbit out of there.
But the thing that my takeaway from this was that our media, I'm talking about CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, all of them, talked about this woman that got killed, his ex-girlfriend, because the guy's such a brute, and it came from the Chinese equivalent of the onion?
Yeah.
And they just took that story and ran with it because the reporters over there don't know what the onion is or they believe everything they read.
This is pathetic.
Yeah.
And once that's out there, no one's going to say, oh, crap, man, it was the onion.
Oh, let's just drop the story.
Let's not cop to that.
I'm surprised.
Didn't they have the...
I want to know, did he feed his uncle to dogs?
That was the other great story.
I was hoping we'd hear about that.
Yeah, well, it's the whole...
I think this is a good show because we went full circle.
We did, didn't we?
We started with the idiots and these networks, and now we're back to the idiots and the networks, believing and running with the onion story.
But Brooke Baldwin does look pretty good for the youngest Baldwin brother, I have to say.
There you go.
There you have me.
She looks good.
I like the cheek implants.
There's something about them that just works for me.
All right.
Thank you very much, John C. Dvorak.
And thank you.
Thank you for your courage.
Thank you.
And thank you, everyone, for supporting our program.
We need more of your help.
Dvorak.org slash NA. And I will be in New York City the day after the Big Curry Reunion.
And plenty of selfies, I'm sure.
Automatic tagging.
Turn off automatic tagging.
Yeah, not only that, but just stop doing the selfies.
Coming to you from FEMA Region 6 here in the capital of the drone star state, in the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
And in the morning from FEMA Region 9, also known as Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. DeVore.
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