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631: Micro Propaganda
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Islamic State, that would work.
Exactly.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Thursday, July 3rd, 2014.
Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 631.
This is no agenda.
Compliant but not cooperative here in FEMA Region 6 in the Travis Heights hideout in the capital of the drone star.
Stay in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where's Muggy?
I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.
Woo-hoo!
Anyway, what?
Why do I feel obliged to give the weather report?
Well, we do weather and traffic on the 8s.
On the 8s.
On the 8s.
And it's actually 9.08.
Yeah, you can set your clock by it.
Weather and traffic on the 8s, everybody.
Well, John, we have a unique opportunity here.
Okay.
Yeah, we have a unique opportunity.
And I'm a little dismayed that people didn't see the opportunity, but I think we need to give our producers and listeners the tools they need.
Because, and you actually wrote a pretty decent article about this.
Yeah, I know.
Surprising, eh?
The Facebook psychological manipulation.
Oh, Facebook.
Sheryl Sandberg's behind it.
Let me...
So while people are running around saying, Oh, the military industrial complex financed it!
They're trying to trick us!
People.
Actually, this is a good moment because this is where you can hit people in the mouth who say, Wow, I can't believe Facebook manipulated my emotions.
This is really an outrage.
And what voice was that?
This is the dumb guy voice.
Wow, I can't believe that Facebook was manipulating my emotions in my newsfeed.
I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here.
You're winning, sir.
Oh, thank you very much.
This is what the mainstream media does.
It is their mission in life.
This is what it does, mainly to sell you stuff.
And this is a perfect opportunity to tell people...
Really?
You think that this is not happening all the time in newspapers and television and radio?
That your mood is not being manipulated?
So that right at the moment where boy meets girl or mother's about to die, we stop for a commercial break?
Are you kidding me?
People don't realize this?
No.
As a matter of fact, they don't.
Wait a minute.
Are you as naive as they are to actually think what you expressed?
What do you mean?
Do you think that people are aware?
Or could he possibly be aware of all this?
No, this is why I'm saying it's a unique opportunity for people who do understand this or perhaps needed this little nudge of a reminder to say, hey, gee, you think that Facebook, by the way, Facebook does 100 experiments a month.
They manipulate your news feed all the time.
Oh, sure.
They have algorithms that give you only things that are good for you or that you will be most interested in.
Okay, how about...
Bullshit!
Please!
They will manipulate it to sell you stuff any way they can.
So as we discussed this, I just happened to have my Twitter feed open because I retweeted.
Mm-hmm.
And here is Carlos Rodella.
We know him.
We know Carlos, yeah.
And so he's tweeting away, oh no, Facebook is down.
You know, a minute later, current Facebook status, possible service trouble, downrightnow.com.
Gee, Carlos!
Really, dude, get a life.
Get a life.
I thought the funniest thing I read...
Was Sheryl Sandberg, Chief Operating Officer of Facebook, who says, we never meant to upset you.
No, that's exactly what you did.
What are you talking about?
You actually did try to upset some people.
Yeah, well, in a manner of speaking.
Right.
But the whole thing is baffling to me.
I found it to be ludicrous.
No, it's baffling.
It's baffling that people don't understand.
I do have a small issue with your column.
You say, you know, you mention micro-propaganda.
I believe propaganda is meant more to create a crowd of people, and then you use emotional torque...
You know, to manipulate people.
And I think that's a little different than propaganda.
I think the propaganda is to get everyone saying, hey man, yeah, that really sucks.
And then, when everyone's nose is...
What are you criticizing me for?
That's specifically why I use the word micro.
Yeah, but you call this micro propaganda.
Oh, okay, I see what you're saying.
So it's a subset of propaganda.
Okay, alright, I gotcha.
So, people, unique opportunity.
Do not run around and fall into the conspiracy theory trap, which is the only thing Facebook can do at this point, to focus you away.
I got a kick out of seeing people on news channels going, wow, naughty of Facebook.
What?
Are you kidding me?
This is the time.
I do it once a year.
I put it in the show notes.
Go ahead and try out the Zen TV experiment.
You will like it very much.
And that's all I got to say on it.
Do not fall into the conspiracy theory trap of the government is doing it.
The government financed it.
The government financed it.
The government hires the same PR companies everybody else hires.
They already know what they're doing.
Exactly.
What do you think, the government's experimenting on public relations tricks?
They have a lot of people that work within, I think there's thousands of people in PR within the Defense Department.
They already know this stuff.
Well, at the CIA, they have an entire division called Project Pundit.
Everyone you see who is either former CIA or military or has a book, they write the books for them!
The guys just go out and they're hitting the golf course.
They're on the golf course all day.
You got a book out.
Oh yes, that's right.
Time to go.
My book just came out.
Time to go on.
How do you have time to write an 850 page book every year?
Time to hang out with Don Lemon.
I love it.
Well, I got stopped in my tracks.
Oh.
At the checkout line.
By the Inquirer.
Oh, you know, is this the one that says, I'm not Chelsea's dad?
Yes.
I got the same one!
I have it right here.
I had to buy it too!
A world-exclusive Bill Stunning Confession.
I'm not Chelsea's real dad.
But I was a little distracted by Kate Gosling's picture on the front cover.
Well, this is...
You know, I've been thinking about this.
She literally has a blowjob lips there.
That's pretty weird.
Well, whatever the case.
I was thinking about this.
It seems to me that your...
I'm not Chelsea's real dad story would be the cover story.
Yeah.
Not the little teaser at the top.
Right.
Instead of...
Who cares about Kate Gosling?
Yeah.
Inside Kate Gosling's House of Horrors.
Proof eight kids living in hell.
Secret emails.
Not this woman anymore.
Secret emails.
Unmask Monster Mom.
Well, you know what?
It worked.
I bought it.
Well, I didn't buy it because of that.
I was actually disappointed because of the cover.
I thought it would actually have been a frameable cover if it wasn't for this.
No, but there's a little thing at the top, and I saw it as I was paying, a little round red dot next to Chelsea's face looking all sad.
Former Clinton aide tells all.
I'm like, oh, it's going to be that book promotion again.
Well, yeah.
Well, this is Larry Nichols.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
This is Larry Nichols as the aide.
The book promotion that you're talking about, which is the Blood Feud.
Yeah, that one.
That actually is in the Clinton or in the Inquirer.
I don't know if you noticed it or you just hung up on the Gosselin thing.
I couldn't get past Kate Gosselin, John.
Which was, I think, the original story they were going to run before that.
I think this other one came in late.
Hillary's Deadly Health Secrets.
Yeah.
Yeah, I saw that.
She'll die in office if she wins.
So, first of all, I think I get the Red Book entry, if we just go back for a second here.
This happened in between shows where Bill Clinton said, if I die, it's good for two million votes.
Yeah.
Which is, what I said, is he has to kick before the elections.
Yeah.
Well, you're talking about...
Okay, now we're not debating whether who first predicted that Bill's going to be a target.
You're predicting...
We're still hung up.
On the timing of it.
We can't find the entry on the timing.
Yeah.
Is it going to be this year?
Is it going to be next year?
I believe that this particular...
Here's what I'm thinking now.
I got new thoughts.
Oh, okay.
All right.
I know this is modeling, and some people say, oh, this is sick, these two guys, but...
Wait, wait, wait, hold on a second.
This is very important.
Everybody stand back.
I've got information, man!
New shit has come to light!
Alright, go.
Well, it's not news, anything that's come to life, but...
I just want to play a jingle.
I'm rethinking this.
I believe it's possible that Clinton planted the story about I'm not her real dad, or got them to run it, to get Hillary to not run for president because he knows he's a target.
He's trying to protect Hillary.
He doesn't want to get...
He fears for his life.
Yeah, so that's why he talked about the two million votes.
He's drawing attention to this thesis, which we developed the thesis originally.
And now he's freaked about it.
He doesn't need...
The guy's living the life.
I mean, he's got this...
He's got a half a billion dollars in the bank.
He's scamming the Haitians.
He's got hotels everywhere.
I mean, the guy is...
Private jets.
He's having the time of his life.
He doesn't want to get killed so Hillary can become president.
So I think this whole thing...
This is a desperate plea to stay alive.
Yes.
Well, this brings a lot of interesting angles to the forefront.
And I'm going to give this one to you.
I see the Obots here in my life, in and around my life, have...
I'm sorry.
Have completely...
Swung towards Elizabeth Warren.
Ha ha!
Yep.
No, you nailed that early on.
I was not a believer.
And now we have, what's this headline?
Hillary Clinton's presidential popularity sliding?
Yeah, let's start it up.
But really where, and this was quite funny, this Hobby Lobby case, which I do have a couple things to say about later, And this was actually very strange.
People were reposting.
You know who I'm talking to when I say people.
You know, the obots.
And of course I had to check Facebook just to see.
And Elizabeth Warren, what she does is, actually, it's a pretty smart social media trick, since you're limited on Twitter and too many words, it's just complicated.
Instead of posting words, they make up a little banner, like a little square placard, if you will.
And it's a quote by Elizabeth Warren.
And everybody, you know, the artist, the brain surgeon and his wife, everybody's reposting this.
The funny thing is, when Mickey read it to me because she discovered it first, There's a huge grammatical error in it, which I don't think they've even corrected.
But I'll give you the quote.
First, I'll give it to you the way it's supposed to read.
I cannot believe that we live in a world where we would even consider, Blue, letting some big corporation deny the women who work for it access to the basic medical tests, treatments, or prescriptions that they need based on vague moral objections.
The Supreme Court has headed in a very scary direction.
Elizabeth Warren.
Very scary.
Ooh, it's so scary!
What are we gonna do?
What are we gonna do?
I put this in the show notes.
How it actually reads, and remember, this is a placard.
I cannot believe that we live in a world where would even consider letting.
So they forgot the whole we word.
It's just not even in there.
What?
Yeah, it says, I cannot believe that we live in a world where would even consider letting some big corporation deny, etc.
Where would?
Where would?
And no one sees this.
Everyone's just posting this thing.
They didn't even really read it, I guess.
It's like one of those...
I don't know if you've ever seen this.
I used to go to more of these things than I do nowadays, but it was a seminar given by some...
There's one of these...
I don't know what kind of a seminar this is.
Swingers Convention?
No, I have never been to one of those, but it was one of these things, and the guy shows, he says, it was about messaging or something.
I can't remember what the theme was, but I do remember him throwing up a sign, and then he asks how many times was something in there, and you could never guess it.
And you could actually, with the sign up, you can't...
It's like, how many uses of the word R? I don't remember.
Right, right, right.
Somebody will know what this is.
They've seen this gimmick before.
And you count them.
Oh, yes.
How many times?
Yeah, exactly.
How many people saw five?
How many people saw seven?
And the people raised their hands.
The thing is right there, you can count them.
Yeah.
And it's like nine or something.
And for some reason, you can't count them.
Your brain just won't do it.
Yeah.
And there's these moments like that.
And a lot of it's pre-programming.
And what we see with this particular thing you're talking about is the pre-programming of the word.
In other words, your mind expects it to be there.
Yeah, exactly.
So it is there and it puts it there.
It makes it there.
And another example of the same guy did at the same speech, which I think was really...
I love this one.
He got half the audience to look at a slide of a rabbit, and he got half the audience to look at a slide of something else, like a flower pot or something.
And then he had everybody look at the same slide, which was kind of a composite rose shark test kind of thing.
You mean the ink spots?
It was like an ink spot.
Yeah.
And then half the audience said rabbit, and the other half said flower pot.
Yeah, it was a rabbit, and the other half said flower pot or whatever was something else.
And it was like because you've been pre-programmed to look at that.
And this is used by propagandists and douchebags forever.
And it's part of the culture.
Well, I think when you show something like that, it merely shows how easy it is to manipulate the human brain.
Yeah, no, it's a long-winded explanation, but it is.
It's very easy, and that's one of the things that people have to realize that we're doing on our show is trying to undo that programming.
Or at least, yeah, try and help.
Reveal it.
Reveal it.
We can't undo anything.
We can't.
You just can't undo it, but you can reveal it so at least people are aware.
But yeah, Elizabeth Warren.
So, I'd like to get through this just right off the top because it is important to show how...
Are you going to do the Supreme Court thing?
Yeah, I got to.
Okay, I have a couple clips that do ancillary to your thing.
You want to do that to lead in, and then I can just get to the propaganda and the programming and the analysis.
Here's the intro to the story, which is done on PBS NewsHour, and you can play that.
I have a question.
Before the PBS NewsHour, yesterday I had some time, they have something called the Nightly Business Review.
Do you have that at your place, too?
It's like PBS, right?
Yeah.
But it's produced entirely by CNBC. Yeah, it's been bouncing around.
At first, it was independent.
It was independent for a long time.
That means, by definition, it's not public television programming.
Oh, no!
Oh!
Oh!
I just sat down early yesterday and I said, wait a minute.
This is just CNBC propaganda.
There's no real analysis here.
All I get is a bunch of guys saying, just because the market's high doesn't mean you shouldn't invest.
Buy stocks now.
While stocks last, you can still go higher.
Somebody should pay them money just because they're just boosters.
Supreme Court overview wrap.
A sharply divided U.S. Supreme Court today ruled that...
Sharply divided.
Five to four is just a majority.
Some corporations can opt out of the Affordable Care Act's contraceptive coverage mandate because of religious objections.
The 5-4 decision comes two years after the justices upheld the president's health care law.
And it leaves the Obama administration to look for another way to make sure all women who want it have access to contraceptive care.
As word of the decision spread, cheers erupted outside the court from opponents of the contraceptive coverage mandate.
The main takeaway is that our government overreached yet again.
And our government cannot force individuals to violate the freedom of conscience and the freedom of beliefs.
On the other side, supporters of the mandate voiced disappointment.
Clearly the court is just out of touch with the will of the American people on this.
Birth control is not controversial, it's really not, except for a very small extreme religious minority.
Two companies successfully challenged the mandate in the Affordable Care Act.
Hobby Lobby, based in Oklahoma, is a national craft store chain with more than 600 stores and some 15,000 full-time employees.
It's owned by an evangelical Christian family.
Conestoga Wood, a cabinet maker based in Pennsylvania, is owned by a Mennonite family and has about 950 employees.
Both firms argue that having to cover contraception violates their religious beliefs.
Excellent.
I see you have one more clip.
Yeah, this one woman came in with some sidetracked analysis that I thought was, I don't know if you're going to include any of this, because it was stuff I never heard of.
So the companies were saying, we are being asked to violate our religious beliefs.
What, in handing down this decision, what does the court base the decision on?
Well, Judy, the court starts with the law, the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, and that act prohibits the government from imposing a substantial burden on a person's exercise of religion unless the government has a compelling interest and uses narrowly, the least restrictive means to further that interest.
So Justice Alito, who delivered the majority opinion today for a 5-4 court, started with the language of the law.
Are for-profit corporations persons under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act?
He looked to what's known as the Dictionary Act.
That Congress uses to define certain words and statutes.
Persons, he said, have always included corporations.
And he noted that nonprofit religious organizations have been allowed to bring lawsuits under this particular law.
That's a very good analysis.
It's only part of it, though.
Alright, take it, maestro.
Okay, so the analysis is...
I'll do the analysis at the end because that's kind of funny when you hear what this is really all about.
But I'm pretty sure that the Democratic Party, the White House administration, who are desperate to try...
I mean, we have an election coming up, midterm election, are very desperate to put the opposite party, even though you can have many more in America, but the Republicans, known as the GOP, To put them in as harsh a light as possible.
This could not have had a better outcome, really, because in the end you'll see that it doesn't matter.
The women who work at Hobby Lobby will still receive their birth control.
And it's important to note here that there is a difference between contraception and birth control.
And these two terms, even in the dictionary, are mixed up all the time.
What the case is about is indeed, as this woman pointed out correctly, is a for-profit corporation allowed to have religious freedom, i.e.
the government can't force them to do something against their religious beliefs, according to the law as a person.
And the Dictionary Act, and this is what everyone laughed at Mitt Romney about, Corporations are people.
When the law in America says a person, that means corporation, any kind of grouping, your Boy Scout troop is a person by the legal definition in the United States.
These things are written into law very specifically.
It's not an oversight or a mistake.
Kind of irrelevant for the propaganda of this case.
And some of it was fantastic.
So, you could really take this any way you want.
You could have a war on religion, one way or the other way.
You could say the left is waging a war on the right.
You could say the right is waging a war on Obama, that he's a heathen.
It could be a war on women.
All of these things.
And what I saw on the news channels kind of ran the gamut.
So here's Terry O'Neill to kick one off.
She is from the National Organization for Women.
And she added another little bit to it, which is just fantastic in the, I believe, invasion of human rights of the American public, for sure, with this terrible propaganda being thrown at them.
But let's be clear.
The men who wrote this decision...
Right there.
Apparently, there is a difference between Supreme Court justices.
If they're men, then they're assholes.
Because they have no business writing any laws that have anything to do with women, apparently.
On behalf of the Supreme Court, have entered into a war on women.
They have become a blatantly politically activist anti-woman political organization.
There are some beliefs that are so heinous that government should not respect them, no way, no how.
Apartheid in South Africa was justified on religious grounds.
The Southern Baptist Convention justified slavery and later Jim Crow and segregation on religious grounds.
We don't accept that as a society anymore, and we should not accept plain out apartheid.
Gender bigotry.
Withholding basic health care from women is bigotry, plain and simple.
We should not accept it, no matter how sincerely the belief is held.
So there you go.
It's racist.
They're Jim Crow laws.
War on rooting in that pot.
It's fantastic.
Apartheid?
Apartheid.
Throw everything in there.
Wow.
That is borderline clipping.
Oh, dude.
Dude, I'm not even going to roll it out.
Now, just very specifically about this case, Hobby Lobby said they did not want to be forced by the government to pay for insurance coverage that specifically provided for the purchase of four medical treatments, I'll just call it that, that they believe is killing a fertilized egg, which they believe is life.
16 others of the pill and condoms and all the...
I can't even name 16.
RU-486 is one of them.
Well, that's one that they don't want.
You're right.
Yeah, but the 16 others, which I can't even name 16 ways of, 16 types of contraception.
No, everything else is okay.
But okay.
And so that is the difference between birth control, because it controls a birth.
It's the correct word.
It's very interesting.
If you look up birth control in the dictionary, I looked at four dictionaries online, they all say contraception.
I think there is a difference.
Contraception, stopping conception is different from birth control.
But okay.
And they would still cover the doctor's visit, everything except for the actual purchase of that.
That's all that this is about, and the Supreme Court only had to decide on one thing, Can a for-profit company claim this religious freedom right as a non-profit corporation already can?
That's the thing I like about the lady that you had in your clip who analyzed that.
That's the only difference.
If you're a church, if you're any type of non-profit organization on religious grounds, you do not have to pay for birth control.
Contraception by itself is not in the discussion.
Okay.
Now we have Amy Goodman, the War and Peace Report, and she's in Bonn, Germany, of all places.
And she, of course, and it's only about the losing party.
And everything I see posted is Ruth Ginsburg's dissent.
What a great, she wrote it!
No one's talking about what the actual opinion was and why it was voted this way.
So Amy Goodman has Cecile Richards on.
She is the daughter of Ann Richards, a great, great governor of the state of Texas, who was beloved, a Democrat, and she is no longer with us.
But Cecile is the CEO of Planned Parenthood.
And here she is mixing metaphors of birth control and contraception.
For many women in this country, birth control is something that they couldn't afford.
And in fact, more than a third of women in this country say they have struggled to pay for birth control and had to forego it because they needed money for rent or for groceries.
I think Justice Ginsburg really hits it on the head here, which is one of the most effective forms of birth control, an IUD, the upfront costs are sometimes prohibitive for women that are making the minimum wage and yet is a very good form of birth control that is very effective in preventing unintended pregnancy.
Unfortunately, this decision means that women from work for Hobby Lobby will be unable to have that covered in their insurance plan.
Yes, it doesn't mean, however, that they will have to pay for it themselves.
So I want to be very clear.
The way this is propagandized is either women are not allowed to have it at all, even if they could pay for it, which that's the thing.
No access!
Get out of my vagina!
You can't have this!
Even though that is not true, you can pay for it yourself.
And here is Cecile Richards saying, oh, they won't be able to buy groceries and no rent.
All of that is absolutely not true according to what is really going on in the decision.
But here is Cecile Richards with the ultimate conclusion of what this is really about for her, also I'd say for Amy Goodman, and for the Democratic Party who is waging the propaganda war and abusing women, by the way, abusing women in this case for their own political means.
So this is the highest court in the land.
What does this mean for women around the country when it comes to reproductive health care in these years to come?
Well, I think what this means is that women better pay attention to who's running for office in November.
No.
As we know, the Senate will determine the next nominees and confirmations on the Supreme Court.
We can't afford any more folks, justices on the Supreme Court, who are so out of touch with women's needs, women's health care, and women's rights.
I think this is a clarion call for women and men who care about women's health to make sure they vote this November.
All right.
So there you go.
That's what it's really about from her perspective.
Here we have...
This was, without doubt, one of my favorite people who weighed in on this, mainly to sell his book, but the guy is fantastic.
I was unaware of Frank Schaefer.
Do you know who Frank Schaefer is, John?
No.
Frank Schaefer has written a number of books.
He also became a quote-unquote Hollywood film director.
And he was, I guess his dad was a big evangelist, and it's kind of like he flipped.
He went from being a Republican Christian nutjob to a Democrat Christian nutjob.
But he is all about debunking, and he'll talk about his book, he's just selling a book, but he is all about debunking how the Republicans use religion to get stupid people who believe in stupid things like God to vote Republican.
And of course, if you're going to have this kind of message and you want to try and sell your stupid book, you're going to go on Al Sharpton's show.
And this is one of the best things I've ever heard when it comes to outrageous crap.
The far right has used religion to try and take away people's rights.
This isn't about a war on religious freedom.
It's standing up for women's rights or gay rights or civil rights.
Let's bring in gays and stuff.
It's always good, Al.
By the way, evangelical turned progressive.
Are those opposites all of a sudden?
This is crazy.
What is this talk of the president's so-called war on religion really about?
What are we really looking at here?
You're looking at a group of people who raise money for religious organizations and get votes for Republican Tea Party candidates by lying to the American people about our first African-American president who they have hated in an unchristian, despicable, and vile manner since day one.
This is great.
So, this Supreme Court decision is now about Tea Partiers hating the black man in the White House.
There you go.
I'm riveted and ready for more, Rev.
So, this is just the next thing.
He wasn't born in America.
He's Kenyan.
He's not a real American.
Oh, and by the way, he is against religious liberty.
This war on women and the war on gay rights, which they're also launching, has two Stand by, John.
Keep your eye out.
They're launching the war on gay rights, apparently.
They.
They.
Parts.
One, to raise money for evangelical and Roman Catholic organizations.
Two, to keep people fired up so they can win elections from people who would rather believe lies, knowing full well they are lies.
Then look at the humanity, compassion, and decency of an American president who cares about my wife, my daughter, my two granddaughters, and wants them to have access to contraceptives.
What's shocking is not that these people lie about the president.
The Supreme Court, that's supposed to be a serious organization, is now run by a bunch of GOP lackeys.
And as anybody who's read my book, Why I'm an Atheist Who Believes in God, will know, these GOP lackeys are people I worked with as a young man.
Hold on.
I just have to break for a second.
God, jeez, what is wrong with this guy?
The Supreme Court is nothing but a bunch of GOP lackeys.
Alright, enough of him.
But he's very funny.
Now, so we have to kind of put all of this into perspective.
Without a doubt, a lot of this is a war on religion.
And Carol from CNN... Facebook.com slash CarolCNN.
Carol.
Carol.
I like Carol.
She really summed it up.
She gave it to us loud and clear.
You cannot believe in God.
Well, the other part, Jonathan, that's interesting in this, like Hobby Lobby doesn't object to all contraception, right?
Just emergency contraception for specific kinds that Hobby Lobby says can cause abortion in essence, right?
But science doesn't support that.
So if the court rules in Hobby Lobby's favor, isn't it saying that religion can make those decisions over science?
Man, there it is.
That's really what it is.
Your new religion is science.
You can't believe in something.
It's not allowed.
We don't want that.
You can't have religion ruling over science.
Oh my god!
Shut up already!
Science is amazing!
And to wrap this up...
We have, and she knows full well what the score is, Ms.
Wasserman Schultz, the current leader of the Democratic Party, I guess?
What is she?
Head of the committee.
Head of the committee, whatever that means.
Democratic National Committee.
She's the one who's behind when somebody gets a bunch of money so they can run for Congress.
Right.
And she knows the score, she knows what this opinion of the court really means, but she's not really going to explain it, but of course I will.
This is a stifling decision.
Stifling, I say.
Stifling!
Shut up, women!
For American women.
It's a decision that blocks women from being able to make their own health care decisions, not just reproductive health care decisions, but health care decisions in general.
Now you'll see those companies that want to claim a religious objection really trying to push the envelope on so many different types of health care.
I mean, Peter, they're organized.
I just have to stop right here.
The actual opinion of the Supreme Court specifically states...
This opinion is for one specific thing and one thing only, and that is these four types of birth control.
It may not be applied to blood transfusions.
It may not be applied to anything else.
The Supreme Court is very, very specific about this in their opinion, and she is lying.
She is lying right now by saying, oh, oh, well, you let this go, oh!
Well, then they're just crazy.
We're going to have everyone coming out of the woodworks to stop everything.
Companies that want to claim a religious objection really trying to push the envelope on so many different types of health care.
I mean, Peter, there are organized religions.
I love this term, by the way.
But I've not heard this used.
Organized religions.
Is not all religion by definition organized?
Well, it used to be a popular term.
I don't know why it's not used anymore.
So organized religions implies...
Well, organized religion implies the big ones.
I think in her context, it's implying it's controlled and run by the Republicans.
That's what I think she's trying to say.
I really do think that.
Peter, there are organized religions that oppose healthcare treatment...
And this is really what your concern is, is the potential implications of a decision like this.
So finish that thought.
This is deeply troubling because you have organized religions that oppose healthcare period.
Then let's discuss the practical challenge.
I don't know of any organized religions that have opposed healthcare period.
This is bullshit.
...that the administration now faces, and what you think their resolution to this should be.
What should the administration do now?
Should they pay for coverage for these individuals...
Uh-oh!
Uh-oh!
Here comes the big question!
...who would no longer be covered through their companies, much the same way as individuals, employees of churches and church groups are covered.
Well, I'm confident that the Obama administration is now going to go back and revisit How the rule was issued to attempt to make sure that we can cover all women when they want to make a decision to use birth control.
Yeah, homina, homina, homina, homina.
She knows the answer, but she doesn't really want to say it.
Let's then...
Well, hold on a second.
I keep playing these clips, but I have to ask you a quick question here in the middle.
Sure.
We have Amy Goodman, we have this guy, we have these other people.
How come nobody ever asks these yammerers a direct question about the specific, for one thing, the specific four items that essentially don't have to be paid for by these people, by the winners of the suit?
Uh-huh.
And be a little more specific and letting them ramble on with what you pointed out is just a lie.
You can point that out if you're sitting there interviewing somebody.
Well, that would...
A logical conclusion would mean that the person sitting there asking the questions had actually read the Supreme Court opinion.
Somebody in the staff could have read it and had the question ready.
They were all so busy reading the 35 pages of dissent by Ginsburg that they forgot to actually...
That they forgot to actually read what the Supreme Court said, which is what I focused on.
Her nickname is Kiki, by the way.
Kiki Ginsberger?
Ginsberg.
Oh, whatever.
Now we're getting down to the end, last clip, and then I will unveil, because Josh Earnest...
Love that guy's name, who is now the spokeshole for the administration.
He knows the answer, too.
He knows really how it's working, but he's actually going to...
Well, the president's going to use his pen and his cell phone or whatever, but the question, of course, is now that this opinion has been published and been made public, now what?
Now what happens?
This is what no one seems to want to say, because if you knew the answer...
Then there would be no more conversation.
There would be no discussion.
We couldn't yell at the Republicans and the crazy believers in God.
As millions of women know firsthand, contraception is often vital to their health and well-being.
That's why the Affordable Care Act ensures.
I think, is this the guy who used to do the voiceover for the West Wing week?
It sounds like it, doesn't it?
It's a funny voice, yeah.
He sounds like he's doing a voiceover.
Of course, he is reading directly from his nose.
As millions of women know firsthand, contraception is often vital to their health and well-being.
That's why the Affordable Care Act ensures that women have coverage for contraceptive care, along with other preventative care like vaccines and cancer screenings.
And again, the Supreme Court specifically said this opinion does not count towards cancer screenings, vaccines, blood transfuse or anything.
We will work with Congress to make sure that any women affected by this decision will still have the same coverage of vital health services as everyone else.
Yes, they will.
President Obama believes strongly in the freedom of religion.
That's why we've taken steps to ensure that no religious institution will have to pay or provide for contraceptive coverage.
We've also made accommodations for non-profit religious organizations that object to contraception on religious grounds.
But we believe that the owners of for-profit companies should not be allowed to assert their personal religious views to deny their employees federally mandated benefits.
Now, we'll, of course, respect this Supreme Court ruling, and we'll continue to look for ways to improve Americans' health by helping women have more, not less, say over the personal health decisions that affect them and their families.
Okay.
So he knows the answer, too.
And now I'm going to go briefly with you through the Supreme Court opinion.
And I love reading these things.
I told Mickey, when this came out, I was like, oh, so happy.
It's like Christmas in July.
I get to read the Supreme Court opinion.
It's lovely.
Okay, the Supreme Court says very clearly, at issue here are regulations promulgated by the Department of Health and Human Services under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010, known as Obamacare, which I'm adding as editorial, which is relevant here, requires specified employers' group health plans to furnish preventative care and screening for women without any cost-sharing requirements.
Congress did not specify what types of preventative care must be covered.
It authorized the Health Resources and Services Administration, a component of HHS, to decide, which is interesting.
So the administration, without Congress, actually decides what is in there.
Non-exempt employees are generally required to provide coverage for the 20 contraceptive methods approved by the Food and Drug Administration.
HHS has also effectively exempted religious non-profit organizations with religious objections to providing coverage for contraceptive services.
Under this accommodation, get ready for it, John, the insurance issuer must exclude contraceptive coverage from the employer's plan and provide plan participants with separate payments for contraceptive service without imposing any cost-sharing requirements on the employer, its insurance plan, or employee beneficiaries.
In these cases, the owners of three closely held for-profit corporations have sincere Christian beliefs that life begins at conception that would violate their religion to facilitate access to contraceptive drugs or devices that operate after that point.
So, and all of this is marked up, you can find it in the show notes.
So now the question is two-fold, right?
Really only one-fold.
Can a for-profit corporation, which they're now calling closely held, but in reality, this show is a closely held for-profit corporation, if you look at it technically, can that say, we are a person under the law, and the Supreme Court goes very clearly into the Dictionary Act, can we say, hey, we object to this just like a church would?
And the Supreme Court said, yes, you can.
And that has nothing to do with the contraceptives or birth control at hand.
That is just a legal opinion.
And you can't have it one way, have it this way one day and the other way the next day.
Persons, our corporations, if they are not public, if the opposite is closely held, then they may call on religious exemption from this particular part of the Affordable Care Act.
But here's what's interesting, and it's spelled out very clearly in the opinion.
John, do you know who, in the case of a non-profit organization that says we don't want to provide a number of these contraceptive services based on religious beliefs, did you know that A, the women covered under that plan don't have to pay and can still get these services, and that the non-profit corporations also don't have to pay for it?
Do you know who actually does pay for it?
Who?
The insurance companies It was a part of their deal.
It was a part of the Affordable Care Act.
That the insurance companies in order for them to and this was all about the insurance corporations to get this fantastic deal known as the Obamacare.
Right, an insurance scam that is based.
Yes.
Nobody seems to want to mention.
Well, and that's why they're not talking about it.
The insurance companies are required by law to pay for these services for corporations that are exempt under religious beliefs.
Okay, so let me get this straight.
Let me read it to you.
The effect of the HHS-created accommodation for the women employed by Hobby Lobby and other companies involved in these cases would be precisely zero.
Under that accommodation, these women would still be entitled to all FDA-approved contraceptives without cost sharing.
The insurance companies shall bear the burden of this, as is the case with non-profit religious organizations.
Everyone was fighting for the fucking insurance companies so that they didn't have to pay for it.
That's all that this is about.
It's spelled out very clearly, and the Supreme Court says very clearly, the insurance companies are liable for the costs of corporations who opt out of this unreligious belief.
So the women did not lose anything.
Will not lose anything.
Nothing.
They have the same, they get the same, whatever they want, they get.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
So all this crap that we've been hearing on the mainstream media is just a smokescreen.
Yes, sir.
You'd have to say at this point that it had to be orchestrated by the insurance companies themselves.
Yes, sir.
Of course.
I'm not a sir yet.
I'm not an officer.
Hi!
Exactly right.
And so everything that we've heard is nothing more than just...
It's just bullcrap.
And then, of course, then the Republicans and the bots, the old bots, they just take advantage of it because they know that it'll help them get votes.
And you can terrorize people.
They're the liars.
Yes, you can terrorize people.
Including this woman, Terry O'Neill, who associates this with apartheid.
She should be ashamed of herself.
She's the head of the National Organization for Women.
She's scum.
Yes.
All of these people are scum.
And the funny thing is...
It's really these people who are abusing women over their back over something which is really a non-issue.
Because, okay, so yes, there's a legal definition of what is a person and who may claim a religious exemption.
But it doesn't mean you don't get access.
It doesn't mean you have to pay for it.
In fact, quite the obvious.
Opposite.
The opposite.
Yes, the opposite.
Just to give you one little extra piece of information, how does the Supreme Court measure whether this will be a burden on religious organizations, for-profit organizations on religious beliefs?
They did it purely by counting money.
The court concluded that the contraceptive mandate substantially burdened the exercise of religion by requiring the companies to choose between compromising their religious beliefs and paying a heavy fee, because if you don't pay for that, you have to pay a fine, close to $475 million more you have to pay a fine, close to $475 million more in taxes every year, or if they simply refuse to provide coverage for the contraceptives at issue, or roughly $26 million annually if they dropped health insurance benefits
or roughly $26 million annually if they dropped health insurance benefits for all their So the Supreme Court, the way America is set up, it's all about money, it's all about business.
They said, oh, is this a burden on you?
Let's see, does it cost you more money?
Yeah, it's a burden.
It has nothing to do with God or your conscience or killing babies or not killing babies.
It's all about money.
It's about, is it a burden on the pocketbook of this company?
And two, who's going to pay for it?
Oh, I'm sorry, insurance companies.
You took this deal, you took this huge insurance scam, and as a part of that, to get it through, to get it past the religious crazy people, You had to say, listen, if someone doesn't agree on contraceptives that are deemed abortive, then, okay, we'll spring for it.
We'll pay for it.
We'll pay for it out of our own pocket.
And that's what all this is about.
They didn't want to pay for it.
Very good.
That was one of the best analyses you've done.
It belongs on a CD. Yeah.
Ramsey King can pick that one up and put it on one CD and then I would give you a clip of the day for the composite clips of the hypocrites and sociopaths that you isolated in this particular segment.
Clip of the day.
Thank you very much.
Very disturbing.
Actually, as good as it was, I found it I found it disturbing.
But the Democrats have been using this as leverage because they know it's never going to change.
You cannot change the corporations or people idea.
No, it ruins everything.
It ruins everything.
It won't work.
But they like to use it as leverage.
And the worst case guy in this regard is Tom Hartman.
No, no.
Are you going to hurt me?
I don't have a Tom Hartman clip.
You're lucky.
But I did have one that I was going to play last time, but he won the Talkers Award for being a free speech guy of some sort.
And it just disgusted me because the guy is a lackey for the Democrat Party and all he does is just slam Republicans.
He's essentially a more soft-spoken version of Al Sharpton.
And so I thank my lucky stars, and this comes up more often than not in recent shows.
The only reason we can actually have this conversation is because of our model of the audience producing this program.
We could not have, even if advertisers agreed with the analysis, even if they were, and even then.
Insurance companies, by the way, are just banks.
It's not like some corporation that's sitting there giving a shit about you.
It's just a bank, and people invest in insurance companies.
Warren Buffett invests in insurance companies, insurance companies.
It's called reinsurance.
Right.
It's just money.
It's just banking.
It's just money.
No, you have to assume at this point that the only reason that this story was covered the way it was, which was to slam the Republicans and...
And war on religion.
And all the rest of it.
And equate, and this is important to me, equate religion and belief...
With crazy talk that should never be anywhere above science, and just crazy.
And I don't go to church, I don't pray, but I do believe in people's right to do whatever they want.
And if you want to believe, fine.
I'm not going to jump around and tell you what to do.
So I defend that on the basis of the Constitution.
Playing by the rules.
These people are trying to strike that out, and I don't like it one bit.
It's just, you know, First Amendment, Second Amendment, Fourth Amendment, 21st Amendment.
All very important amendments to me.
And they can all, by the way, get away with this on the mainstream media because they know they've got the green light as long as they don't go the other way and turn on what this really is about, which again is these insurance companies which have all the money.
I don't think we can emphasize this enough.
We probably, in fact, that's why you probably haven't heard it anywhere, probably could not do that analysis, I agree with you, if this was a commercial venture.
Because somebody would say something to someone and we'd lose a sponsor.
And we'd be boycotted.
Or boycotted.
And we'd have people, you know, rioting in the streets.
Seriously.
So with that, I would like to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
And in the morning to you, Adam Curry.
In the morning to all ships to sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water.
Also the dames and knights out there.
And in the morning to everyone there in the chat room, noagendastream.com and noagendachat.net.
And thank you to all of our artists.
We had a lot to choose from on the last show.
Patrick Bausch came through.
We liked his art, and we put it on.
It's always a crapshoot, I guess.
It's hard to figure out why something strikes our fancy, but often it is the opposite of the title that we choose.
It's on the fly.
It's part of the performance, actually.
The show does not end when we hit stop on the record system, if we actually hit record in the first place, which also...
Did you do that today?
Yeah, I did.
Noagendaartgenerator.com is where you can find everything.
We appreciate the work that our artists do, and I have it pretty much working now on all podcatchers, and people are really happy when they see that new art, and I've been checking it.
I have the podcast app.
Yeah, the art's part of the show.
It's really cool.
It's an important part of the show.
You open up your app, and you see everything is the same except our art.
And sometimes it changes right before your eyes, because it updates a little slower when you open the app.
And it's an eye-catcher.
It's like, oh, it's something new here.
It's a big part of our show, and artists need to understand.
That's why they get a full-on credit everywhere.
We really appreciate that.
That's the, yeah.
And also we use alternative pieces in the newsletter.
We do.
That comes out on Wednesday.
And there's art there too that's often a little more evergreen in style.
But it's always eye-catching.
Always.
Let's thank a few of the executive producers here for show 631.
We actually had no auto executive producer, so we have to take the top associate donation, which was a tie.
So we have two executive producers.
Stephen Fettig and Simon Bennett.
Fettig is in Darien, Wisconsin, and he has sent in $250 through PayPal.
In the morning, noagendacd.com team is going to be at DEFCON 22 this year, and we're going to have a no agenda meetup on the evening of Thursday, August 7th.
Nice.
We'll decide where we're going to get together after we've gotten some feedback and have an idea how many there will be.
We will be handing out massive stacks of no agenda CDs for everyone to pass around at the convention.
Anyone that would like to join us should email NoAgendaCD at gmail.com so we can plan ahead regarding a venue and how many discs we're to bring.
I also got a note from Ramsey Cain about this.
Begging us to mention this because they don't want to be stuck with 2,000 CDs.
NoagendaCD.com.
I'll read his.
In the morning, the new No Agenda CDs are now available on the site.
NoagendaCD.com.
They are heavy on tech reporting because Steve and I are going to DEFCON in August.
And the No Agenda Meetup says kind of the same thing.
I will be...
Oh, the meetup will not be in the convention, so anyone in Las Vegas is invited.
And not just DEF CON attendees.
Yeah, obviously.
And again, he says noagendacd at gmail.com.
And we really appreciate what Ramsey and Stephen are doing.
It's a big help.
These CDs really do work.
People like it.
They're pretty, too.
They're pretty.
And also on noagendacd.com, you can just grab clips and play them for people.
And it does often get people interested.
And I think I'm hoping that today's opening will be something that you can use to get people interested in an alternative analysis to the micro propaganda and macro propaganda they are exposed to, which, of course, is a severe violation of their human rights.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Okay, let me get back to this.
By the way, on Eric's, I moved my email.
Eric mentioned to have Simon Bennett as a knight today.
I believe so.
Let me double check.
We have three, I think, today.
Actually, there's four.
There's another one that came in by mail that I didn't forward to Eric.
Simon, Jason, and Brad, yeah.
Simon.
Okay, there's another one, too, you're going to have to put on there, which I'll discuss later.
All right, good.
Okay, Simon Bennett came in.
He doesn't have anything for us to read, but he did this for his accounting.
$250, Ipswich and Suffolk.
And he came with $250.
So those two will be our, because they're the highest donors in the group above $200.
So they become executive producers by default.
If one of them had done $251, he would have won the whole thing.
Josie Andrews in San Francisco, California, $239.
Do I have a note from her?
Sorry.
Is that a check that came in?
I don't believe so.
That's why I'm going to look in my email.
Well...
The check that came in was Josie Andrews PayPal.
My short comment about my donation, Josie Lane is a different person.
Okay.
I don't have anything for Josie.
Let me take one quick look at her.
Now it's stopped working.
Okay, never mind.
Josie will say what you need later.
You mean your squirrel male stopped responding?
I hear you.
I hear you.
Hey.
There it is.
So her email is Josie...
Oh, this is Josie Lane.
Oh, there you go.
Josie Lane.
Josie Lane, my short comment about my donation.
I just donated $239 to the show, but in my haste I forgot to add my short comment.
So here it is.
My wonderful husband, Mr.
Michael Andrews, will be celebrating his 39th birthday on July 2nd.
Did we put him on...
Okay, obviously we have to put him on the list.
Hold on a second.
What's his name?
Michael Andrews.
Michael Andrews.
Do we have a number?
39.
Ah, 39.
That's so he says.
Yeah.
He's been listening to your show religiously for over a year now.
His life is made all the better.
If he can get me and the kids to listen to...
Isn't that nice?
That's nice.
Donating to the show was the best present I could think of for him, so please would you give him an associate executive producer credit, send some karma his way, and a don't eat me Hillary.
He could always use a good birthday de-douching as well, so he needs those three things.
Happy birthday to Mike from your extremely patient and tolerant wife Josie and your wild and wonderful children Julia and Adam.
Okay, so he needs a karma, a don't eat me, what else?
And a de-douching.
A de-douching, okay.
You've been de-douched.
Eat me, Hillary Clinton!
You've got karma.
Hey, hey, hey!
Okay, I'm glad we did that.
Yep, me too.
Zachary Zeisler.
Zeisler.
I would say Zeisler.
In Omaha, Nebraska, where all the money is.
He says, Dear Sirs.
Okay, you're going to have to do this one, Adam.
I don't have it in front of me.
I'm going to read it and you're going to have to deal with it.
Drunk Donation, if you would please say the following in an accented German voice.
Okay.
And this phrase is infotainment to the max.
Infotainment to the max!
How'd that sound?
It's better than mine.
Infotainment to the max!
That's pretty good.
I hope he's still drunk when he hears this.
Otherwise it may not be that funny.
I don't know.
He says he needs a de-douching and a karma shot.
No, we can totally hand you that, my friend.
You've been de-douched.
You've got karma.
Woo-hoo-hoo-hoo!
Thank you.
Aaron Ramroth in Amsterdam.
$200.
And he...
Let me take a look if he's got anything.
I'm sorry I have to do this on the fly.
What happened?
I didn't expect so many blanks to come up.
Well, again, people weren't putting the comment in the comment box, and they sent us an email.
Well, that's funny, because if they send us, quote-unquote, us email, I'm adam at curry.com, he's john at curry.com, I always forward it to Eric to put it on the spreadsheet, and I believe everything I forward to him does get on the spreadsheet.
Well, do you forward everything you get to Eric?
I do when I get it.
The Josie thing was missed because she has a different name.
Correct.
And there's other issues, I guess, and I didn't forward it to anybody because I didn't see it.
Okay, it's alright.
It's alright.
It's not your fault.
So Aaron Ramroth, there's nothing I can find from him.
Well, we appreciate it.
And finally, Wesley Young in Jamestown, New York, $200.
And I believe that did come in as just one of them dark checks.
But just to be, since I've been doing this all morning, I'll also do one more.
Young, Y-O-U-N-G. And that is Wesley Young.
And again, nothing.
So we want to thank all these people for helping us with these executive and associate executive producer donations.
We remind you to go to Dvorak.org slash NA for the Sunday show, which is going to be, well, it might be okay if we get everyone just to think about us for one more show.
Dvorak.org slash NA. ChannelDvorak.com slash NA. NoAgendaShow.com and NoAgendaNation.com.
Both have donation buttons you can click on and also get to us that way.
Also, a quick thank you to Sir AJ Reistat, who is the first baronet of Treasure Valley, Idaho, and Gitmo Nation.
He maintains the peerage map, itm.im slash peerage.
And to answer the question for baronetics, can a baronet claim a protectorate, all baronetsies are distinguished by having a territorial designation.
A territorial designation is an aspect of the creation of modern peerages that links them to a specific place or places, so that it's true.
And there you have it.
If you are a baronet, you get to claim a territorial designation which will be a portion of the protectorate of the baron or grand duke.
And this shit will matter one day.
Yeah, when the whole world collapses, someone's going to find this map and go, Oh!
Lineage, okay, well yes, you do get this anchorage, young lady.
At least we...
Yes, they're related to them.
At least we know who's in charge.
And of course, we need your continued help with propagating the formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Order!
Order!
Shut up, slave!
Shut up, slave!
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So today is the third...
Tomorrow, of course, a very hard day for us, for donations, certainly, because people are partying.
This is the 4th of July, and then that always puts a little kink in everything.
But there you go.
And we're not...
We're having dinner with some friends, but...
I mean, we're moving.
I don't know if I mentioned this on the show.
We're moving.
July 15th, I believe, is when we moved.
You're out of there.
Yeah.
It's been a challenge.
Oh, by the way, I do have a little...
We're staying in Austin, by the way, just so everyone knows.
We're moving to a different place.
Yeah, we figured that maybe one more time in Austin, then you're moving out of the country.
That's what the current book is.
After the war.
The book is that you're leaving.
After the war.
I just want to play this clip.
It's a little thing that maybe kind of relates a little bit to the Facebook rant and the stuff we said at the beginning of the show, but I just want to...
Play this clip so I can remind people with my attitude about cards, those, you know, oh, Safeway Club card.
I've always said, don't use these cards.
And here's the reason.
Tracking consumer.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I had no idea where you were going.
A story published a few days ago caught our attention and described how hospitals buy information about you to determine how likely you are to get sick and what it will cost to treat you.
For more, we're joined by one of the co-authors, Shannon Pettypiece of Bloomberg News.
So what are they buying and who are they buying it from?
Well, they're buying the same type of data that retailers have been using for years to target products at you.
And what we're talking about here is information that's collected by companies called data brokers, which can track every transaction a consumer makes, every purchase they make with a drugstore or a grocery store loyalty card.
Yeah.
Loyalty card.
Loyalty card.
Yeah.
Yeah, now this goes to the insurance companies, too.
Don't let anybody fool you.
And if you start buying too much butter, your rates will go up.
And we have talked about this for years.
We've been talking about this.
And it started with the...
And that prediction came true.
This, you know, GPS trackers.
And now you already get a better deal with...
Progressive started with that in America.
If you put the tracker in the car.
That's just the beginning of it.
That's just the very beginning, and everyone's like, oh, I get a cheaper deal, but it's the same thing with Facebook, as an example.
You take your free trinkets, like a dumb Native American, and you give away the whole country, because you have a shiny mirror.
Dumb.
Do I have a little thing I can go off on?
I don't think they're dumb anymore.
You're taking that back.
It came out wrong.
It came out wrong.
I didn't mean it that way.
It came out wrong.
Adam at Curry.com.
It came out wrong.
You know what I meant.
Yeah, what you meant was they shouldn't have given the island of Manhattan.
Of course, you don't even know that they did that.
It could be just one guy taking advantage of the situation.
Probably.
Yeah, yeah, give me some BGS. This is all yours.
Which led to, of course, people who sell the Brooklyn Bridge.
Yeah, exactly.
Why not?
Alright, so...
Wait.
How are we doing with the soccer?
How are we doing with the soccer?
Go ahead and boom shakalaka, brother!
Well, interesting.
I do have some comments...
On the soccer.
Okay, before you do that, I want to go into my little thing that was just run on Real Sports.
And I've come to a new conclusion about this, all this promotion for soccer.
And when you hear about this, this was a long, but this is a long 20-minute report.
It took three clips from it.
This series is called, on the clip list, is Soccer is Rigged.
And I want to play these three clips before we start talking about soccer.
We begin tonight with a global game that's on everyone's lips and everyone's TV these days, and that's soccer.
Or as everyone outside of the United States calls it, football.
It's played on every continent and in every corner of the globe.
And as the World Cup unfolds in Brazil, the depth and breadth of soccer's appeal is pretty obvious.
But amid all its success, the world's most popular game is being increasingly compromised by widespread corruption, the likes of which no major sport has ever seen.
In an effort to better understand the depth of the problem, we traveled to six countries over the past year to learn just how much match fixtures have compromised the sport's integrity and enriched themselves doing it.
To those in attendance and watching on TV, this looked like a typical soccer match in Italy.
And in many ways it was.
It had thrills and energy and passion.
Only the outcome of this game was never in doubt.
Because the game was fixed.
That was the perfectly manipulated game.
Because it wasn't just me.
Other teammates were also being paid.
Of the 22 players on the field, how many were in on it?
Three were involved in my team.
Carlo Gervasoni, a defender, was one of several players who had accepted bribes to lose the game.
So when it appeared that Gervasoni was doing his best to defend his goal, he was actually doing the opposite, by intentionally committing a foul.
You decked an opposing player in the box.
Was that part of the plan?
Yes, because we needed the other team to score a goal.
His hit led to a penalty kick for the opposition.
All that was left for Gervasoni was to pretend to be upset about it.
I love the outrage that you show here.
I had to do my part.
You're a good actor.
Of course it didn't hurt that the supporting cast in this on-field charade included his goalie, who was also in on the fix.
The goalie almost fell into his own net.
Yeah, of course, because he was one of them who got the money.
How much did you get for that game?
It was a lot.
More than $100,000 just for me.
Ah!
Love it.
Love it.
So they go on and they show a lot of this.
They show that this is all mostly from Asian yakuza and other gambling interests in Asia.
And they show this interesting part.
They discuss a little bit about what's going on with Asian soccer.
Nobody's even going to the games anymore.
They're so bad.
They're so rigged.
But the big games that we're talking about are still popular, let's say.
So let's play Soccer's Rig 2.
I think half of them...
A soft-spoken Croatian appears to have even reached the very highest levels of the sport.
In Berlin, we met a man named Ante Sapina, a soft-spoken Croatian who, from the comfort of this sports bar, used to run the biggest match-fixing ring in all of Europe.
What's the most you ever bet on a game?
Ever?
I think half a million.
Half a million?
Half a million euros?
Yes.
In 2009, Supino worked with the Asian Syndicate to even rig a World Cup qualifying match.
It was a game between Finland and Liechtenstein, which Supino rigged not by paying off players, but by bribing the one man who could virtually guarantee the outcome, the referee.
We made the arrangement for two goals in the second half.
Do you remember how he went about making sure that there were two goals in the second half?
He gave a penalty for Finland in the second half.
And it was not really a penalty.
As an expert, you could sit there and go, that's my guy.
In this game, he earned some money.
He earned it.
Another referee's subpoena bought fixed about 20 other big games.
Often by awarding one-team penalty kicks.
Or by tossing the opposing team's best player out of the game for no apparent reason.
There were two games where he really made some, I don't want to say miracles, but it was.
I'm curious, of the people you approached, would most say yes?
Most of them, yes.
A FIFA referee doing an international friendly, his income is around about 500 euros for that match.
If he fixes that match, it's normally about 50,000.
I have one little problem with this report, John.
And I do want you to wrap it up.
This is now being portrayed as, oh, it's these teams, and it's these individual players, and some refs, when I believe it is a structural business run from the top.
Yeah, no, I'm not going to argue that, and I wouldn't make the argument against that thought, but they do have a FIFA clip, which...
We call it FIFA. We call it FIFA. Fine.
Uh, But, now the last one of the...
Yeah, no, I agree.
I think the whole thing, it's a fractal.
But they're making it sound like, oh...
They're not really.
If you watch the whole thing, it just makes it look like everybody's corrupt.
Africans.
A lot of it is Africans.
It's the Africans.
Well, definitely a lot of Africans.
That's why they had to rouse them.
But here's the best example, and this involves not really an African team, but the Tonga national team.
Now, this club is just kind of funny.
How extensive a problem are we talking about?
Almost half the countries of the world, in some way, have experienced match-fixing in football.
35% of Eastern European players have admitted being approached by match-fixers.
So brazen have the fixers become that on at least one occasion, they didn't even bother buying players or refs.
They just created a fake team to do their bidding.
This team in yellow was purported to be the national team of Togo.
But in truth, the entire team, all of them, were imposters, tired to lose.
A fake team.
Can you believe?
A fake team.
The boss tells them, we want you to walk into the football pitch with one mindset.
That you are going to be beaten.
So before the game, you already lost.
Dingo, boom, shakalaka.
And then people say, I'm crazy with two Obamas.
The whole team is fake.
Of course.
I love that.
That's great.
Well, the FIFA thing is...
I agree, but I just wanted to...
My conclusion to all this is the only reason that we're promoting...
The game is such that it's a game that is asking for it.
And that's the point I'm trying to make.
I don't care about the endemic corruption, which is horrible.
But the game is asking for it.
When you have games that go nil-nil and one-nil and...
Two to one.
Two to one is a high scoring game.
It's got to be the easiest thing to rig.
What's happened is that the American gamblers have been left out of this wonderful bonanza.
There's no spread.
We can't do points in the second.
It's not our culture of It's a different way of winning.
We're trying to popularize the sport so we can get in on the action.
That's the only reason that people want soccer to take off here in the United States.
I agree.
I'm in complete agreement.
And I am very happy to say that I have a personal hero in soccer.
He is now dubbed the Secretary of Defense.
Which I think is hilarious, because if you go on the street and you ask someone, what is the name of the American Secretary of Defense?
I doubt many will be able to say Hagel.
They would say Tim Howard, who is the goalie for the American team.
And he plays in the UK for, I forget which team, Ipswich maybe.
And he is, he has Tourette's!
Well, that's probably why he's so good.
Not just any kind of Tourette's.
He has the exact same Tourette's I have.
Really?
Yeah, which is not the cool kind where you say curse words all the time.
You're on the plane and you say bomb and terrorist.
Right.
It's not that cool.
You do not get on a lot of flights.
Well, here's a little ditty.
I didn't even know this.
I didn't know that he was...
And by the way...
You don't suffer from Tourette's, okay?
It's not like I'm suffering.
Oh, I'm suffering from Tourette's!
Which is, he's a Tourette's sufferer.
Or as, and he actually comes up with a term I hadn't heard, TS. Which is Tourette's Syndrome.
I'm a TS sufferer!
And this is, I love this because I was a lone voice in the wind telling all the parents to their kids, don't worry, your kid's not, you know, you don't give them pills, whatever.
And now, yeah, this is what the doctors prescribe.
Although I have a feeling he may be taking some stuff.
But anyway, here's a little bit of Tim Howard, the secretary of Tourette's.
But Howard plays on an even bigger stage off the field.
Oh, because it's such a burden.
He never asked to be put on.
The one he takes very seriously.
He suffers from Tourette's Syndrome.
What's wrong with this music?
Because he's suffering from Tourette's Syndrome.
I love his...
Oh, but it's an even bigger game I have to play on John.
When the show is over, I go through life as a Tourette's Syndrome sufferer.
Inherited neuropsychiatric disorder.
It's a neuropsychiatric disorder.
I'm...
What's the psychiatric part?
I don't know.
It's a neuropsychiatric...
I can't even say it.
A neuropsychiatric disorder.
And you have to have sad music for that because have pity on us.
He suffers from Tourette's syndrome, an inherited neuropsychiatric disorder with onset in childhood.
It's defined as involuntary motor tics and twitches if you like and some of it's blinking clear in my throat.
Different muscle tensing of different body parts.
As I grew up, it became different at different times.
One year it was this, the next year it was that.
And I think in every case, there's a little bit of difference.
But for the most part, I'm very similar to most of the people who have TS. Everton!
Everton!
Everton!
But as he plays in likely his last World Cup, his legacy off the pitch may live longer than anything he does on the field.
If a kid wants to look up to me, then I think that's pretty awesome.
I've always tried to live my dreams, even if they were too big for me to even fathom.
But with Tourette's syndrome, that was never a...
It was never a stop sign for me.
It was always just a little bump in the road that I would just keep going and it wasn't going to stop me from achieving my dreams.
And I try and tell all the kids that I meet that hope to be amazing one day and be a professional athlete and be a doctor or whatever they want to be, I tell them that they can do all that because TS won't stop them.
TS Suffering!
It was funny because I told Miss Mickey this last night.
And I said, hey, did you hear this?
Howard is...
He suffers from Tourette's Syndrome.
And she said, really?
Oh, that's interesting.
And it's exactly the same.
It started when he was nine.
With me, it started around eight or nine.
And it moves around.
It's your arm.
It's your leg.
It's your eyes.
No, it does.
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
It moves around.
And it can move around from week to week sometimes.
Maybe you just got some animal living in there.
Yeah.
Gerbil.
Gerbil.
And what was funny, she said, well, but how can he play World Cup soccer with Tourette's?
What?
I know.
I said, are you kidding me?
This is why he's so good, because he wants to jump to the right to catch the ball, and his head goes left, and he...
It's because of the unexpected.
How can you play World Cup soccer?
I do a world-class podcast with my Tourettes, okay?
Amazing.
I love the sad music, though.
That's pathetic, that report.
That's manipulating this bullcrap.
This is why I play it.
I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it.
Tim Howard, hero of the ticks.
Apparently hero of the ticks.
He broke the record, I guess, for saves, which tells me that the team really stinks.
So here's the one thing I have, and this is very strange, okay?
Very, very strange.
A Brazilian ambassador in a country I cannot name because it would give away who told me this story.
One of our producers had a dinner, a sit-down dinner, a private dinner, with an ambassador from Brazil in this country.
And the ambassador said the World Cup final will be 2-1 Brazil winning over Germany, which is not even possible.
Which tells me...
That something is going to happen.
That somehow Brazil and Germany...
Well, I don't see how that's possible either.
Even though that was my prediction.
Exactly the same.
2-1.
But that can't happen according to the way the pool is set up.
So maybe someone would have to forfeit or something weird would happen.
That might be some strange condition.
Well, there's another possibility here.
Which was that was the original layout.
And it got changed at the last minute because they wanted a different Brazil versus someone.
And I'm thinking the following.
This is a possibility, if I'm not mistaken.
You can look at the brackets, or people can jump to conclusions and start tweeting before you finish the show.
Oh, by the way, people, please do not do that.
Because when you send us an email saying, I heard you say this, you stupid idiot, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And we read the email saying, oh gee, if the guy had only listened for like 30 minutes more, and then you send another email, which is your apology email, now you've wasted my time twice.
Right.
Brazil versus Argentina.
Yes.
I think we mentioned this, didn't we?
Yeah, and I think...
2-1, Brazil wins over Argentina.
Yeah, and I think it's because they...
I think they're trying to...
Assuage South America, which has always been given a short stick on these things, because everyone knows that South America is a huge soccer mania all the way up through Mexico.
And I think this will be one of the really great...
A lot of fans to watch the match and even go to the place, to the stands, from Argentina, because it's not a short drive.
You have to fly in, even though it's right next door.
And I think it'll just be a boost for the league or the FIFA in Latin America.
I think it's important.
And it's also a great rivalry.
Brazil and Argentina have always hated each other.
I agree.
And so it'll be a nice match, as opposed to yet another European.
Now the French, I think, is a possibility.
I think the French can go in to the finals.
The French can go in.
The French are very, very good.
They just slide in there.
But the French are being beaten down for a number of reasons.
And it's funny because you guys talked about it on DH Unplugged.
The BNP Paribas, the French bank, has been fined some massive eight or nine billion dollars.
8.9, something like that.
8.9.
And they're not allowed to trade in U.S. dollars and all this stuff, which Putin says, our buddy Putin.
Putin!
Is because the French were still going to sell their battle warships to Russia.
And they said to America, like, yeah, we're still going to sell these ships.
And America said, oh yeah?
Oh, yeah, it's time to fine you.
And kick your bank out of doing business in American dollars.
And I think there's some validity to that.
I actually don't think...
My theory on this fine is different.
Oh.
I mean, I think there may have an element of truth to that.
It may look like a good explanation, but my explanation is more along the lines of that we were getting tired of our companies getting fined by the EU, right?
Oh, similar.
Picking on Google, picking on Microsoft, and just stealing money.
Similar.
Yeah, similar.
Billion, billion, billion.
You just take a bunch of billions and say, well, you know, we can play that game, too.
And so they...
Oh, by the way, do you think $8.9 billion will get your attention?
And actually, no.
They don't care.
Well, the bank doesn't care.
No, where can I send the check is what the bank says.
Here you go.
How much do you need more?
Yeah, we gouge our customers.
They don't faze me.
These banks.
The American banks in the first quarter of this year did something like $50 billion in profit.
What?
On fees.
Well, whatever the case, whoever ends up in that, there's geopolitical reasons for it.
I think the best match would be Brazil-Argentina, because it would get a lot of attention, even though we would probably lose some of the audience in Europe.
But whoever it is, Brazil's winning.
That has to be.
That's the bet.
Because we cannot, otherwise Brazil will just, the whole country will be on fire.
Yes, Brazil has to win to assuage them.
And get ready for the Olympics.
Right.
Yeah, look how well we did in the World Cup.
Keep the public from going berserk.
And that'll be that.
And that's why it has to be rigged.
I mean, you have to rig these games for these political reasons.
The last one was the last one.
Spain won when they had all these problems.
When Spain was falling apart.
Yeah.
It's gotten a little tougher to predict this because every country is essentially falling apart one way or another.
Yeah, but nothing would be as disastrous as Brazil losing.
I agree.
So, just out of the blue, but I think I figured out why, we just started hitting the American public with reports yesterday just terrorizing people.
Just terrorizing people with unbelievable lies.
The Department of Homeland Security is beefing up security at America's airports amid fears terrorists are developing new weapons.
Top security officials fear new technology is being used to develop devices that can be smuggled past screening systems.
It's a concern that some say could lead to longer lines at security checkpoints.
They are Homeland Security's most dreaded threats.
Explosive devices hidden in objects from shoes to toothpaste tubes and undetectable by airport security.
Now the U.S. is considering new airport security measures due to increased concerns that terrorists from Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula are developing new bomb designs to fool current security screening.
We remain concerned about the capability of some of these elements to develop weapons that could be thwarted by our current security systems.
Officials tell CNN there is no immediate threat or plot.
However, an additional vulnerability has been identified.
Okay, exactly.
So this is continuously, there is no...
I don't know what station that was.
I'm going to move over to CNN now.
Everybody was showing bombs, explosions, jihadis training.
Justin, it was here at CNN. Terrorists may be working on this new generation of bombs that could be smuggled onto a commercial airplane.
Without being detected by security.
This is what we're hearing from U.S. officials telling us at CNN. The U.S. is considering new airport security measures because of these rising concerns.
The members of the terror group Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula are developing explosives designed to avoid current airport security screenings.
So go Washington to our chief national security correspondent, Jim.
Now again, they say no threat.
Nothing at all, but all of this terror.
Jim, first, as far as these undetectable bombs go, what more are you learning?
Well, this has been a long-running concern for a number of months.
U.S. officials have been concerned about and warning about, particularly AQAP, as you mentioned, and their master bomb maker that you may have heard of before.
Now, we know this because we had Nancy Pelosi weeks ago saying, the master bomb maker, they've got plans, we've seen that they're trying to blow up truck bombs, new bombs, new crazy new bombs.
So this is not new, but for some reason, which I think I know, This has to be packaged right now!
Alasiri, developing bombs that can get past security screening.
They don't have a lot of metal parts, so they can get through both the pack-downs, but also...
Not a lot of metal parts.
What does that even mean?
One metal part will trip it off, moron!
That's been an existing concern.
What's happened now is that concern has increased due to an additional vulnerability to that kind of bomb being identified by intelligence analysts, and now DHS is considering what do they do to respond to that so that they can spot these things.
They haven't decided what those measures are, but they are considering those measures.
You know, they've been concerned for a long time, Aaron.
I've heard this, Brooke, you know, a number of times.
Aaron, Brooke, whatever your name is.
Now, clearly that concern is raised to a level where they're trying to consider what they can do about it.
I'm thinking it's a holiday week.
People are flying.
I don't know how soon they will be doing anything.
Yeah, that's when you want to terrorize people.
That's the best time.
What are you hearing from DHS? It won't come that soon.
It's something they're considering now.
It's not going to affect the July 4th weekend.
Oh, okay.
So that's at the end of the report.
ABC packages something up for all their stations to play.
Iraqi military video showed a Russian cargo jet with the first delivery of 12 warplanes the Iraqi government has bought secondhand from Moscow.
The ground attack fighter jets are the latest effort by the Iraqi government to turn the tide of battle against Islamist Sunni invaders.
Now, see, what we're doing now is we're turning the news in Iraq.
We're trying to meld that into terror in American skies.
Terror, terror, be afraid, citizens.
Syria, who have overrun much of their country.
The planes will be used to support ground troops such as these.
Iraqi state TV showed the counter-attacking in an effort to retake the town of Tikrit.
This soldier fires an automatic weapon at a fuel tanker igniting its contents.
We're going to get that old World War I machine gun.
And he's shooting at a tanker to try and blow it up.
It's about which side has the upper hand in the battle.
Iraqi security officials say they are coordinating the campaign of the United States.
Come on, take it home, baby!
And the U.S. is now flying armed drone aircraft over Baghdad.
Meanwhile, there is a spike in fears that the violence in Iraq could overflow onto American soil.
Spike in fear.
Yeah, you're causing the spike in fear.
Our homeland is at risk.
Wait a minute.
Back that up.
She said it's going to overflow into American soil?
Yeah, oh yeah.
Does anybody working in these networks actually understand geography?
They don't care.
They don't care.
And I have the reason why, but I want to draw it out as long as possible.
Okay.
Milk it.
We gotta hit the top of the hour, Johnny.
I can milk it.
I can stretch this segment all the way to the news and weather on the 8th.
Stretch it.
Could overflow onto American soil.
Oh, what's that?
Oh, it looks like some spillover from Iraq.
Our homeland is at risk.
I love that.
And they put Lindsey Graham, his only quote.
Our homeland is at risk.
Listen to this.
Fucking assholes.
The spike in fears that the violence in Iraq could overflow onto American soil.
Our homeland is at risk.
Radicals in Syria.
I just throw that in there.
Our homeland is at risk.
I think when I'm going to be...
Could I have two loaves of white bread?
Our homeland is at risk.
And I'd like some croissants.
European and U.S. passports could get on commercial flights carrying a new generation of non-metallic explosives disguised as innocent, everyday carry-ons, toothpaste.
Described as innocent, everyday carry-ons disguised as toothpaste.
Clothing, cosmetics designed to be smuggled past airport security.
Uh-huh.
There's also at least 100 and so, 100 plus Americans who are over there in Syria right now.
So any of these people can go back to the United States and they can carry out the type of attack that they've been trained in.
Giving Homeland Security officials plenty to lose sleep over as the July 4th holiday approaches.
Daria Albinger, ABC News, New York.
That's right.
You see an ordinary carry-on, be afraid.
So what is the TSA going to do?
They're going to, of course...
Excuse me.
They're going to do something that I find very, very annoying.
We're told that this will not change what passengers can bring on board flights, for instance, laptops or iPhones, but passengers will see additional screening of shoes and electronics.
They'll see additional screening for explosive residue, those swab machines you're now familiar with.
You should be familiar with that, slave.
They may also see additional screening at gates, Brianna.
Sometimes on flights, in addition to the screening you go through, just after check-in, when you get to the gate, they might look at your bag again or swab you again.
And I'm told that this is really about AQAP and them always refining bombs that get past security.
Fewer metal parts, less explosive residue, and that's the real thing behind these threats.
No, it's not.
That is not the real thing behind these threats.
So you're going to be at the gate.
You've gone through security.
Your shoes will have to go through three times, apparently.
You get to take out your laptops, and they'll be, oh, it looks like you've got some non-metallic parts in there that could explode.
All this just over and over, and then you're at the gate, and they come over like a swab you at the gate, like a fucking slave.
I'm so mad about this.
It makes me really, really angry.
Sorry, it's the Tourette's.
So what's it about?
You had a conclusion to this report.
So the September 11th security fee that helps fund the Transportation Security Administration, currently it's $2.50 per segment up to a $10 cap.
On July 21st, it's going to $5.60 for a one-way ticket.
So they've made it a little simpler rather than per segment.
They're looking at one-way tickets.
But you could just a trip out and back nonstop that was $5 is going to $11.20.
And that per-ticket cap is being eliminated, correct?
Yeah, the cap is being eliminated.
It's interesting.
It wasn't in the legislation.
It wasn't in the legislation before, but the administration had imposed the cap as a practical matter.
No more cap.
That's something that I think is still under discussion.
A little controversial there.
As of July 21st, your tickets will become more expensive...
With a 100% increase, in some cases 110% increase, now no longer capped for a security fee which is intended to fund portions of Department of Homeland Security, specifically the TSA. So I wager to say that when this news comes out and everyone's looking at their ticket and seeing these outrageous fees per segment,
So, a total fee of a ticket could be up to $100 if you're talking international.
Extra, as a security fee, I wager to say that all of this fear is now being put in place, so you don't question that.
Do you not want to be safe with these non-metallic objects that can blow up like a regular carry-on?
From the bombmeister.
From the bombmeister in the Arabian Peninsula, which might spill over into our homeland?
Do you question that person?
Citizen?
That is what this is about.
These bastards.
I mean, they just tax us every way they can.
It's a tax.
It is a tax.
It's literally a tax.
It goes right to the government's coffers.
I will say...
And of course, they probably will buy a few more machines.
By the way, they need this extra money because, for example, they spent hundreds of millions of dollars on those puffer machines, which are all now in a warehouse someplace.
Remember the puffer?
No, no.
They're actually...
All those machines, all the...
Well, not the puffers specifically, but...
The puffer is in a warehouse.
The Puffer's in a warehouse.
The Puffer's in a warehouse.
The Puffer's sent back.
No, the other ones are in prisons now.
The ones that have too much radiation.
That's the Rappus game.
Yeah, we use those on prisoners now.
Okay, that makes sense.
Right, it's just unregulated x-ray machines.
Good comment in the chat room.
How else are they going to fund ISIS? Good point.
I will say, someone has been listening to this show, and I've always said, if you really want to get the American public's attention about terrorists...
Then you have to do the following.
A national manhunt is underway for Ali Muhammad Brown.
Brown is accused of murdering two gay men in Seattle earlier this month.
What we've learned today about Brown's possible motives have many in the LGBT community very upset.
Sources tell me Brown is a radical jihadist who targeted the victims using an app popular among gay men.
Investigators believe Brown used Grindr, an app that lets gay men use their cell phone's GPS locator to meet other gay men in the area.
Detectives say Brown met up with Saeed and Anderson Young after they left Our Place, a popular gay bar on Capitol Hill.
Sources tell Q13 Fox News Brown underwent jihadist training in California in April.
And sources also believe that two men were attacked simply because their sexual orientation offended Brown's radical Muslim beliefs.
Finally, finally, finally.
It doesn't matter what's going on in Syria.
You need jihadists killing the gays.
That's how you get people's attention.
Very smart people.
Very good.
Now let's point out a little interesting...
Oh, the jihadi school in California?
It's a charter school, I'm told.
Jihadist school in California?
Charter school.
It's funded by Gates.
Yeah, Bill Gates, Common Core, jihadi style.
I want to know, was there a mention specifically where this jihadist training is going on in California?
No, no, it's just bullshit.
We've got drones everywhere.
We're finding these madrasas in the middle of nowhere, Pakistan.
We should be able to find one if it's in Marin County.
It's hilarious.
I love it so much.
It's so funny.
That's borderline.
It's all borderline.
I want to ask you a question because you're Dutch.
Well, no.
In culture.
Somewhat, yes.
So what is wrong with these people?
Did you play the Dutch do-it-again Mexico incident?
Oh, I have no idea what this is.
Dutch National Airline KLM is at the center of lively debate online over a Twitter message posted this weekend celebrating the Netherlands' victory over Mexico in the second stage knockout round of the World Cup.
The mocking tweet came with a picture showing an airport departure sign along with a pictogram representing a Mexican complete with sombrero, moustache and poncho.
The post was meant to be funny, but it's not had the desired reaction with web users.
Far from it.
Mexicans have taken to social networks in their droves, slamming the airline and voicing their outrage over the tweet.
Many are particularly offended by the picture posted by KLM, saying it's making fun of Mexican culture.
Users are also saying they will not be flying with the Dutch Air Company in the future.
Okay, I think I can answer this.
Hey, by the way, before you give us the answer, which is going to be very interesting, I'm sure.
Mm-hmm.
Why aren't the Dutch instead of...
I mean, why aren't the Mexicans upset about the match?
And it was rigged so the Dutch could win.
It was a nil-nil tie until the referee got involved.
This is what they should be outraged about.
Not a pictogram of a Mexican in a sombrero.
Well, you know how sports fans are.
Even if you win, you go riot and burn shit.
You can't...
It's all micro-propaganda.
Now, let me explain what's going on here.
If this came up...
Interestingly enough, I will admit, I watched this particular episode of Keeping Up With The Kardashians because I had heard about this and I wanted to see how they put it on television.
Where Kim and her mom, Chris, were paid, I believe it was $500,000 and they got first class airfare and great hotel to go to Vienna.
And I know these kinds of guys who do this.
You have a quote unquote entrepreneur and basically he's whoring out Kim because they're prostitutes in their own special way.
To, you know, do signings and open some stores and the guy's charging everybody.
It's a very, very well-known business.
And the Kardashians, this is the business they're in.
Who in Vienna knows who the Kardashians are?
The whole world knows who the Kardashians are.
And so they're going to the big Vienna ball.
Everyone's there.
It's a big deal.
And there's some guy...
Two things happen.
One, there's a guy who is...
They describe it as being in blackface, but he's not because he doesn't have the red makeup lips and the white around that.
He's made to look black.
Makeup.
His whole face and hands and arms.
And this guy is obviously some comedian or whatever, and he's like, Hey, Kim, it's me, Kanye!
And the show actually stops with a voiceover.
This was so shocking to us, because for someone to show up in blackface, and believe me, in Europe, they don't know what blackface is.
They don't know the Al Jolson.
They don't understand the history of this.
But the Kardashians then did a minute and a half showing the history of blackface.
Because black people couldn't perform, so white people made fun of them by making their faces black with big red lips, which this guy did not have.
So they immediately said, this is unbelievable racism.
How can you show up in blackface?
And then there was an interview, which was live on Austrian television, and another comedian was there, and the guy makes a comment as they're interviewing Kim and Chris.
He says, oh, yeah, the ball is about to start.
We're just waiting for the niggers in Vienna.
Which is a joke, a pun on Kanye's song, Niggers in Paris.
Which, you know, is called Niggers in Paris.
And the, oh, I'm so shocked you said niggers!
And here's the problem.
Here's what's going on.
There is such a lack of that particular...
There's all kinds of problems in Europe with xenophobia, but there is no actual racism as we think of it in America today, where the word nigger doesn't have that connotation.
And words in general don't have that heavy weight.
There's no ban on words that I know of, not the way the PC police work in the United States.
And actually, a guy saying, you know, who's made up to look black and saying, I'm Kanye, ha ha ha, although it's a lame joke, it is not seen culturally as racist.
And so when the Dutch make a joke about the Belgians or the French or the Germans or the Mexicans, it literally is not in their culture a racist feeling the way we are overly sensitive in the United States.
Does that make any sense?
Yeah, they're behind the times.
They're actually far more advanced where people can just...
I disagree.
I think Europeans in many aspects are...
They have no sensitivity.
They need sensitivity training.
They're really the 50s, the 1950s.
No, they are so advanced.
They don't say goes when it comes to this sort of thing.
They are so advanced.
I'll tell you another story.
Mickey, before I knew her, or I knew of her, of course.
But Black Pete goes away in the next 20 years.
Yeah, no, that's good.
It's going away.
Believe me, it's going away.
When Mickey moved to the States in, I think, 2002, or I can't remember when it was.
When was the OJ thing?
When did that trial take place?
It was a long time ago.
Was it the 90s?
Late 90s, maybe?
Yeah.
Well, let's see.
O.J. Simpson trial.
No, it must have been the 90s, not the 2000s.
Yeah, I think it was.
She came to Los Angeles as an actor and actually did very well.
But when she arrived in America, she heard about, of course, the O.J. Simpson thing.
1994.
Yeah, 94, 95.
She heard everyone talking about the N-word, and she thought that the N-word was for Nicole.
She thought, why won't people talk about Nicole Brown?
Why are they so sensitive about the N-word?
She didn't understand, because these words...
I truly, in my heart, I do feel Europeans are actually, were, it's going to change.
They're being brought back.
But they were so advanced that people would just say, hey, cripple, hey, ugly, hey, shithead, hey, Belgian, hey, kraut, hey, Jew, hey, Arab, hey, towelhead.
People didn't get all upset.
This argument of yours stinks.
It's not even close.
It's the truth.
It is the truth.
So in today's politically correct world, cultural Marxism, This is where they run into trouble on a global scale.
But it comes from a very childlike, almost, good place of exactly the opposite.
And I know it sounds weird, but I grew up in this and I feel this.
We never talked about white or black.
Never felt that growing up in the Netherlands.
Never.
Okay.
Okay.
I think that was a little long-winded, but I'll just stop it.
I do have to make a correction for the show.
Because I'm looking up the something and it's apparently France is playing Germany, thus cannot play Brazil in the finals.
The only countries that can play in the finals against Brazil are France?
Costa Rica.
No, France is playing Germany in today's match or tomorrow's match.
Well, if someone wins, can't they then go to the finals?
No, that's the semi-finals.
Then they play Brazil, who goes to the finals.
France-Germany plays Brazil-Columbia.
The winner of France-Germany plays the winner of Brazil-Columbia.
Okay.
Then that team goes to the finals.
Right.
The teams that will be playing each other that would be in this deal...
By the way, Brazil may be playing Germany and win 2-1, but that's not the finals.
Right.
It either has to be Argentina, which is my prediction, Belgium, Netherlands, the racists in Netherlands, they're going to change the team name, or Costa Rica.
Could it be Netherlands-Germany?
Is that a possibility?
Yes.
Since you're going with Brazil, I'm going to say something goes horribly wrong with the match fixing.
And the racist Dutch come out against the Nazi Germans.
Well, that would be ironic.
That would be great.
They're not going to take a chance on that.
If Brazil loses, the stadium that the finals are going to be played will be burnt to the ground with all the 100,000 people inside.
I agree.
It will be very, very, very bad.
Very bad.
Alright, well, so now somebody's probably written this already about, yeah, no!
I'll do your friend's voice.
Do the voice, do the voice.
Yeah!
You guys said Brazil's gonna play France in the finals.
You don't know anything, you're idiots!
That's what this other guy said, literally.
Well, we're true.
We are idiots.
Well, idiot savants, perhaps.
I will say one thing.
I personally really like the game of soccer when it's at this level.
I do not enjoy watching it.
I don't watch any sports ever for any reason.
But when we're in a competitive World Cup thing like this, and it's a team that I care about, which would either be the racist Dutch...
The Tourette's King, hero of the ticks, the U.S. team.
Then, of course, the finals.
I'll watch that.
I do enjoy it.
To people who think just because we don't...
Oh, this is another thing.
You don't know shit about soccer.
No kidding.
Duh.
No, we don't.
And I don't care to know a shit.
I just care because of the geopolitical...
Then there's that.
What's an over?
I can't figure that one out.
Oh, please.
John at Curry.com.
Do not send me.
I don't care.
Don't send me how it works.
I don't care.
I really don't.
Okay, quick clip.
Yes.
Amy Adams does good deed.
Who is Amy Adams?
She's an actress.
A very pretty actress.
He's reading for USA. I think we can all get together on this one and say well done.
Actress Amy Adams is winning a lot of praise this morning for a first class move.
She was boarding a flight from Detroit to Los Angeles and that is when she noticed an American serviceman sitting in coach.
So what did she do?
She gave him her first class seat.
She took his seat and Back in the coach section of the airplane.
Best of all, this is the part I like the most, Amy, the daughter of an American officer, an army officer, excuse me, did not seek any publicity for this deed.
It was a fellow passenger who shared words of her selfless act on social media.
Good for her.
What a great story.
Somebody else spots it happens.
I mean, she wasn't trying to get attention for it.
No, but I hope it catches on, though.
Good for her.
Her publicist was like, yes!
Wow!
What a story!
Wow!
Let's keep the public amused with this bullcrap.
By the way, have you ever tried to...
Stop!
Stop!
I'm going to give it to you because you deserve it for that.
I'm sorry.
That was well-deserved.
Clip of the day.
Well deserved.
I'm in a denial on this one.
No, this is...
It was a disgusting clip.
That's why it's so great.
This is such...
This goes right back to what we talked about at the beginning of the show.
This is a big part of the micropropaganda, the mood manipulation that is...
Did they go to a commercial break right after this by any chance to sell you some Hot Pockets?
Yes, they did.
I'm sure they did.
Oh, I'm so emotional.
I need a Hot Pocket.
This is how it works.
That was a great combo of a poop sandwich.
Just beautiful.
Poops out.
By the way, have you ever tried to give somebody your first class?
Yeah, we've tried with the family once in a while.
I get first class because somebody's paying for it.
And somebody's in the back.
I say, come on, you go sit in first class.
The stewardess gets all over.
No, you're assigned a first class seat and the TSA won't let you change.
And boom shakalaka, brother!
That's exactly right.
You can't do that.
You can't even have, you can't even go talk to someone.
You can't even poop in the first class toilet!
So that's bullshit.
I mean, the other question is, what was Amy Adams doing in Detroit?
But that's another...
I don't want to get into it.
That's a whole other thing.
That's the clip, night clip, and that's what I got.
Very good.
I like that a lot.
I'd like to turn our attention to...
Well, obviously, we had some serious things happen.
Although it's not...
Like, we haven't been predicting this for...
Jeez, how long have we been predicting?
Well, here's the jingle.
Caliphate in Iraq.
I think I'm gonna crack my pants.
That's right.
Caliphate!
We've been talking about the caliphate, and here it is, everybody!
Not only was there a caliphate, but there was a meeting.
A meeting...
Um...
Let me see if we can do this.
Let me see if I can do this, John.
Hold on a second.
Hello!
Hello!
Hello, Ahmed!
It is al-Baghdadi here!
Ah!
Al-Baghdadi here!
We have a problem!
We have a big, big problem!
Yeah!
Everybody can figure out, are we ISIS? Are we ISIL? Is it al-Sahad?
Is it Levant?
We need to rebrand!
We need rebranding for the corporation!
Yeah, yeah, I think we've got ideas for you.
Okay, yes.
Let's cut it down to something short, something easy, something that people can remember.
IS. IS, I like it.
What does it stand for?
It could stand for a lot of things.
IS could be IS. I have an idea.
How about, let me think.
Ah, Islamic State, that would work.
Exactly.
Islamic State, very nice, very nice.
Now we're going to have to make some changes.
One of the things, you have to change your name.
From al-Baghdadi?
No, no, no.
It's going to be Khalif.
You're going to be the head of the...
Ah, Khalif!
Khalif, yes.
And I will be rude.
Khalif Abraham.
Khalif Abraham, yes.
Because that's the first guy.
Yes, very nice.
I am the top dog.
Abraham of the Islamic State.
Everybody now has to talk to you.
Yes!
I am the boss!
Caliphate!
I am the boss!
Okay, boss, anything else?
Yes!
Get me out of this bucket!
And that's pretty much how we think it went.
It had to.
Fantastic.
I really love that they've just gone ahead and said, all right, this is now our turf, and we're good to go.
And thank you very much, President Obama, for the $500 million.
That really helped.
Which was clearly just given to them.
They've already got over a billion in the bank.
I don't know how much more money they need.
What I found very nice, because it completely justified my theory of the Kirkuk-Haifa pipeline that was the entire reason for the 2003 Iraqi invasion, to resurrect that.
And you'll recall we talked about Bibi Netanyahu, At the time saying, well, good, we'll have Iraqi oil flowing through Israel again.
And then everyone said, shut up, idiot.
Don't tell anybody about that.
And so Netanyahu is now back.
As fighting between Iraq's rival factions splinters the country, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu voiced his support for Kurdish statehood.
Regarding the Kurds, they are fighting people that have proved their political commitment, political moderation, and deserve political independence.
Israel has quietly maintained military and intelligence ties with the Kurds for decades.
Seeing in the minority ethnic group a buffer against shared Arab adversaries.
We should support international efforts to strengthen Jordan and support the Kurdish aspiration for independence.
Israel's position appeared to clash with that of its close ally, the U.S. Washington, particularly Secretary of State John Kerry, has pressed Kurdish leaders to stand with Baghdad.
You see, whose oil belongs to who?
This is really the problem.
Then I predict there's going to be a little rift because I see no people on the board of Janelle Energy that are American.
I see only Brits and I see an inside job and we were not invited to the party.
With Iraq on the brink of all-out civil war, oil giants such as BP and Shell pulled workers from oil fields in the south and east of the country earlier this month.
But north of Kirkuk, the semi-autonomous region of Iraqi Kurdistan is an oasis of tranquility, and smaller British oil companies are reaping the benefits.
Take, for example, Canal Energy.
Run by former BP boss Tony Hayward, the company recently started pumping oil from its brand new KRI pipeline, which runs from the semi-autonomous region of Iraqi Kurdistan over to Turkey.
From where Kurdish oil and gas can be sold to international markets.
Iraqi Kurdistan insists that they have the moral and constitutional right to export their own oil with Ganel, bypassing the central government.
GanelEnergy.com, John.
Golf, Echo, November, Echo, Lima, Echo, November, Echo, Romeo, Golf, Yankee.
Ganel Energy.
Let's see.
Tony Hayward, Executive Director and CEO. They just...
Everyone from BP essentially left BP and started their own little company.
They were rousted from BP after their screw-ups.
Oh, well, yes, of course.
Here is the independent chairman, is Rodney Chase.
Rodney Chase.
Who served on the boards of Petrofac, BP, TNK, BP. He retired with full-time employment from BP in 2003.
We have, let's see, Julian Metheral.
He is from Goldman Sachs.
Jim Leng, director and chairman.
Let's see, he was HSBC Bank.
Sir Graham Hearn.
He was the...
The old boys network.
Well, he's the shipping guy.
He's the chairman of Brammer Shipping Services.
But we need to ship it, you see, from Sehan to Israel.
George Rose, he is...
Let's see, he's from BAE Systems, of course.
All these...
They've got a great little thing going on here.
Yeah.
I don't see Clinton.
I don't see Kerry.
No one's been invited.
I don't see any Bush people in here.
Fantastic.
These are the guys that are...
You can call it a small energy company all you want.
And this is a boon.
A boon for Israel.
And I think there's a rift because of all this.
I think this is a real problem.
People are getting pissed off.
And now the United States and the douchebags who are fighting this crap, inciting all of it, are stuck with Baghdad where it's going to be a mess.
Which is where everyone's, oh, go Baghdad, Baghdad.
Please pay no attention to the semi-autonomous region.
What does that even mean?
It's a caliphate, dude.
They have a ruler.
His name is the Caliph.
They've rebranded.
They've got stickers.
They've got Twitter apps.
They've got social media people.
It seems like...
Play this clip.
I don't know how much it has...
...has to do with much, but play the...
this is...
the Iraq parliament apparently had just blew up.
Now...
I'm sorry, do you want to put...
I was just going to say, because nobody can agree on anything.
Now, a new era in which Muslims will ultimately triumph, it is the promise from the leader of the group now calling itself just the Islamic State, which has taken over large parts of Iraq and Syria, and the back of al-Baghdadi issues.
A call to jihad, a holy war, and a message lasting nearly 20 minutes urging Muslims worldwide to take up arms and flock to the caliphate, it is declared.
The response to that from the capital Baghdad?
Well, chaos as Iraq's new parliament broke up with lawmakers walking out and making threats despite calls for the urgent formation of a government to combat that onslaught.
The three main blocks didn't reach the solution.
Caliphate!
Well, this is indeed the message we're supposed to focus on.
Please pay no attention to the oil flow.
Colorado woman aimed to go to Syria for jihad.
ISIS in Arizona.
In the Netherlands.
More girls planning jihad trips to Syria.
Urgent action needed to stem radical Islam risk.
Dutch Security Service receives $25 million per year extra to stop the jihadis going to the caliphate to fight.
And of course, they will all come back here.
To kill American citizens.
Now, we have seen a rise in Europe within the last months.
Arrests of individuals who had trained in Syria, who have come back to their host countries, who have talked about conducting events.
And then you go back and lay this template over, and some suspicious things start to appear.
The British soldier that was killed in 2011, there was some connection now that appears to the Syrian training camps.
Then you look at even May of this year in Brussels, the attack on the Jewish Museum.
There seems to be a relationship in Frankfurt, Germany, where they killed two U.S. soldiers.
Perpetrated by people who were trained in Syria.
Yes, there's clearly some tie.
And now we've seen other arrests, significant arrests, around Europe in a tempo that is very concerning.
Bullshit!
Really?
Seems?
Appears?
He's just making it up.
Very concerning.
I thought this, that was Mike Rogers, by the way, the future disco jockey.
Yeah, I thought this was...
Mike Rogers is the worst.
I thought this was kind of funny.
He makes an analogy here, which is interesting.
The easiest route today is to fly into Turkey and disappear for a while, come off the grid, spend as much time as you want in both either Syria and or Iraq, or both, and then come back and fly out of Turkey that wouldn't necessarily rise to the standard.
Remember, these are U.S. persons.
These are U.S. citizens.
Okay.
That's what the challenge is.
Or they're British citizens, or they're German citizens, or they're Spanish citizens.
That raises a level of difficulty for U.S. intelligence services in a way that we haven't seen in the numbers that they're trying to figure out who these people are and what their intentions are.
That's what's so dangerous about this and why allowing them to pool up in Syria, allowing them to have safe haven the size of Indiana between Syria and Iraq, and I say they, I mean Al-Qaeda.
I love allowing them to have a safe haven the size of Indiana.
Memes.
Yeah.
So he's off topic here because he should be focusing on what we want to do, which is to isolate and blame Germany for everything.
He only got a little bit of that.
Yeah, he only got a little bit.
He mentioned Germany, but he didn't...
I think he's...
This is why he's got to go.
He's out.
He's no good.
He's out because he stinks.
He's no good.
He's no good.
I agree.
He's not doing his job anymore.
But that does bring me to Germany, if you're interested.
Definitely.
Well, back to Amy...
The Catholic?
Back to Amy Goodman.
Oh, Amy.
Where was Amy?
Bitching about the Supreme Court.
Amy was in Germany.
Yes, in Bonn.
In Bonn.
And when in Germany...
What would you do?
Well, you'd meet up with Laura Poitras, for one.
No, not with Laura Poitras.
You'd need to meet up with the new girl, with the new pretty girl on the scene.
Oh.
Who's the new pretty girl?
Sarah Harrison is investigative editor of WikiLeaks, an acting director of the newly formed Courage Foundation.
Ho, ho!
This got me very interested.
Of course.
The newly formed Courage Foundation.
The Courage Foundation.
Thank you for your courage, is their motto.
Thank you for the Courage Foundation.
So I, of course, spent...
Too much time.
Yeah, obviously.
But, you know, I like this story.
I like this girl because she's obviously an intelligent shill one way or the other.
Seven Oaks.
You know, we know this.
Now, here's what we know.
She was Julian Assange's girlfriend.
She was an intern at WikiLeaks.
And now she is not only the investigative editor...
Of WikiLeaks.
Let me just hear that again.
Amy actually, I think she says it differently.
Sarah Harrison is investigative editor.
Investigative editor?
Of WikiLeaks.
An acting director of the newly formed Courage Foundation.
An acting director of the newly formed Courage Foundation.
Let us go to the Courage Foundation just for a moment.
What is the Courage Foundation and what do you do?
You can find under the FAQ section of CourageFound.org.
We've got a lawsuit brewing.
The Courage Foundation has actually already been formed.
It's in New Hope, Minnesota.
It's called the Courage Foundation and the URL is The Courage Foundation.
Yes.
It's different than her Courage Foundation.
Which is at couragefound.org.
What is the Courage Foundation?
What do you do?
The Courage Foundation is an international organization that supports those who risk life or liberty to make significant contributions to the historical record.
We raise funds for the legal and public defense of specific individuals who fit this criteria and are subject to serious prosecution or persecution.
We also campaign for the protection of truth-tellers and the public's right to know generally.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Courage is based in Germany, the UK, and the US. So I start to really look into this.
The Courage Foundation is just a rebranding, since we're doing rebranding.
It used to be known as the Journalistic Source Protection Defense Fund, which was essentially the Julian Assange slush fund.
It was set up for people to donate money to Julian Assange.
While he's in the embassy there in the UK. Poor guy.
They're giving him out of the story here.
It is, yes.
Oh yeah.
He's been screwed.
It is not, I quote, specifically not a non-profit.
You may not deduct anything.
This money goes literally into, if you look at their, let me see, is that on the same page, I think?
They use this to raise more funds.
They use this money to do little speeches and talk and also support the people who are running the foundation, which would be pretty much Sarah Harrison.
And so far they've raised $12,000, and this money goes...
It's up to $14,000.
Oh, it's up to $14,000?
As far as I can see, this money goes to Sarah Harrison to keep her, I guess...
Traveling.
No, she's in Germany, and she says she can't go home because of this...
Bullcrap.
Bullcrap.
Now, remember, she was...
Wait a minute, so what are you telling me?
Wait!
No, I can't...
You can't...
You can't do it yet.
I think I know what she's up to.
So here she is in Germany.
Now remember, according to her own wiki page, which I assume people who work at WikiLeaks would know how to keep a wiki up to date, she was an intern.
It doesn't say she was Julian Assange's girlfriend per se, but we pretty much know that.
And we know that Julian was pretty mad when she went and spent all this time with Snowden.
And we're pretty sure she had that hot little black outfit on and she's sitting and hanging out with him in the airport for 40 days and been in Moscow for four months.
Believe me, Snowden put the tip in.
Nothing more, but something like that happened.
And now all of a sudden, her history changes.
Your investigative editor, what does that mean?
How did you end up working with WikiLeaks?
I had previously been working as an investigative journalist.
Oh, really?
For what?
When you were an intern at WikiLeaks?
Was it the New York Times?
The Guardian?
No, sorry, Sarah.
You're making up your own history now.
WikiLeaks, for me, has not only that element in it of journalism publishing, but also the way in which it does it with the concept we have of scientific journalism.
Scientific journalism, John?
What?
Totally speaking crap.
I find very important and really appeals to me that all of the source documents should be there.
The concept of preserving history, collating full archives, making them as usable as possible.
She's done none of this.
The public have access to them.
I really feel that it allows the public an ability to engage with their own history.
And we've actually seen that a number of the largest stories that have come out of our publications are because of people finding them themselves or people who are involved in maybe a court case.
Then they have some more evidence for their court case.
They're able to try and get justice.
Oh, and other than that, I'm still more.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Our show notes do more than you're doing, darling.
I'm sorry.
I got a couple more things, because I know what she's doing.
I'm on to her game.
But so here is one of the things that the Courage Foundation is doing, is they have their first campaign, which is, I stand for Snowden!
I stand for Snowden!
And Sarah Harrison, and it's all YouTube videos...
And she stands...
Does she stand for Snowden or...?
My name is Sarah Harrison and I'm WikiLeaks' investigation editor and escorted Snowden to the safety of temporary asylum in Russia.
Snowden and other whistleblowers do this world a great service and they should be protected around the globe.
The United States government, though, would like to make an example of Snowden and put him in prison for decades.
This is just hearsay, by the way.
We have to support him and show another example.
Snowden took great risks to reveal important truths to the world.
We should stand with Snowden.
Berlin stands with Snowden!
What?
Berlin stands with Snowden.
Berlin.
She represents Berlin?
Yes, she does, apparently.
Okay, now just to show you the bullcrap that Amy Goodman is, the bullcrap that Sarah Harrison is, we get to reach back into the No Agenda archives.
Ah, good.
But first, let's hear the bullcrap.
When was it within this period of going to Russia that Bolivian President Morales' plane was forced down in Austria by...
Forced down!
There were jets flying by, forcing the plane down!
Land or we'll shoot you out of the sky, citizen!
By the U.S. government.
Well, we were still in the airport.
There had been a number of presidents that had been in Russia meeting with Putin.
There was—and Morales was one of them.
President Morales was one of them.
And when his plane took off, there was the allegation that Snowden was on the flight, and the airspace around Europe shut down.
Not true.
While he was trying to get across the continent.
So here you see an extraordinary example of the U.S. dominance, where they're able to get other supposedly sovereign nations to close their airspace because of supposed intel that they have.
And a president's plane violating international agreements is downed and was forced to come down in Austria.
All of these different countries participated.
Yes, a number.
There was Spain, Portugal, France.
There was a number of countries.
And, of course, Austria had to accept him at the airport.
Yeah.
I don't think they'd go quite as far as having his plane run out of fuel and just crash to the ground.
Lying sacks, both of you.
Liars.
I would like to reach back in the Norwegian archives and play for you the...
The audio of Foxtrot Alpha Bravo 001.
This is the Bolivian president's plane who landed in Austria.
I believe at the time, the way we deduce this is this was all PR. And even the Bolivian president was in on it, whether forced or not.
But he was not forced out of the sky.
Airspace was not like some magical electric fence that closed off around all of the European airspace.
No, in fact...
They requested to land in Austria.
They made up an issue with their fuel gauge.
And as you will hear, and I love playing this, at no point is there any inkling of evidence of a forced-to-land situation.
Control, good evening.
Infrastructure, Bravo 001.
Good evening.
Information Whiskey.
We expect ALS runway 16.
Information, WKALS runway 16, FG-B-601. Do you need any assistance? FG-001, do you need any assistance on landing?
They're asking, do you need any assistance when you land?
Are everything okay?
Not at this moment.
We need to land because we cannot get a correct indication of the fuel indication.
So as a precaution, we need to land.
So it's not, uh, we're being forced to land, we've got F-16s on our wingtips, we gotta come down, they're gonna shoot us!
No, he makes up something.
Oh, we can't really get an indication on our fuel gauge, so we need to land and check it out.
Because we have to do a press conference.
Right.
Now, of course, they don't leave it there.
They just make some more jokes about this obvious lie, this huge lie that they're both involved in.
It was obviously extraordinary, and still is, that a president's plane would be downed.
Downed!
No, it was downed, people!
I think that it is something, these sorts of extra-legal and extraordinary actions is something that WikiLeaks has seen on a number of occasions.
You haven't seen that because it didn't actually happen, honey.
The financial blockade when we were publishing the war logs that started and started publishing CableGate, there was an extra-legal financial blockade against us.
The fact that financial, supposedly independent financial companies will just cut off because of Cut off the publishing organization because of pressure from the U.S. government is, again, another extraordinary act that shouldn't be happening within the rule of law.
You're talking about PayPal?
PayPal.
Cutting off any ability for WikiLeaks to get money through?
To receive donations direct to us or actually via third parties that were collecting money for us.
All right.
So there is a rift going on right now.
It's all on message boards, and there's a lot of history between Cryptome.org and WikiLeaks.
And I'm pretty sure, there was also, Gren Greenwell, Don't Raph, was supposed to release this big fireworks thing.
You remember that was one of his, when his book came out, he said, on June 27th, the big fireworks, everybody will know.
And of course, nothing happened.
And he's tweeting that, oh, this is because the United States government is blocking me.
In fact, I have his tweet here.
After three months working on our story, the United States government today suddenly began making new last-minute claims which we intend to investigate before publishing.
So he still hasn't published.
And then Cryptome...
They're tweeting, oh, maybe the EFF will publish all the withheld Snowden documents to forestall war by releasing all documents to go beyond polite public debate.
And then they're talking about some war that might start on July 22nd or something.
So there's something going on, but somehow Sarah Harrison is involved in this.
And I think the only thing she's going to do and put this in the Red Book...
Kiss and tell.
Her book is going to be the book.
I slept with Snowden.
Oh yeah.
She's writing a book.
That is why she's in Germany.
She's taking her time.
She's being funded by this bullcrap courage organization.
Well, she's basically this bullcrap courage organization essentially stealing the money that was supposed to be going to...
Yes.
To WikiLeaks.
To, yeah.
Assange.
Yes.
So she's some piece of work.
She's stealing Assange's money.
Yes, yes!
Stealing his money.
She's running and she's hanging out with Snowden.
Here's a little thing that I found very interesting.
See if you catch this and why this investigative journalist who uses science journalism didn't catch this mistake or correct Amy Goodman.
You're living in Berlin, Germany right now, but you're from Britain.
Why not go home?
Yeah.
Britain has a terrorism act, which has within it a portion called Schedule 7, which is quite unique.
What it is, is it gives officials the ability to detain people at the border as they go in or out, or even transit through the country.
And this allows them to question people on no more than a hunch, giving them no right to silence.
It also was the case of no rights to a lawyer as well, though that's starting to be changed.
But you're compelled to answer their questions.
All the legal advice received is that the likelihood is very strong that I would be Schedule 7, detained under this, and questioned.
Because of my work with WikiLeaks and Snowden, there are certainly answers for source protection reasons that I would be unable to answer, which would make me committing a crime upon returning home.
This is what happened to Glenn Greenwald's partner, David Miranda, Glenn Greenwald, who met, of course, with Edward Snowden and Laura Poitras in Berlin and wrote the first articles.
Did you not catch it?
I'd have to think about it.
It's alright, I'll replay it for you, that last bit.
David Miranda, Glenn Greenwald, who met, of course, with Edward Snowden and Laura Poitras in Berlin.
Oh yeah, right, yeah.
They met him in Berlin?
Yeah, that's...
Really?
By the way, we have...
Yeah.
Well, don't forget that we have theorized the possibility that Snowden's in Berlin.
Yes.
And listen to No Correction.
He wrote the first articles about the documents.
Yeah.
He was actually just transiting through the country.
He was through the UK. He had been in Berlin.
He was going back to Glenn in Rio in Brazil.
Interesting.
So, no correction.
No, Snowden didn't meet with them in Berlin.
That didn't happen in Berlin.
Yeah.
So this whole thing, this courage foundation is one big honeypot.
Yeah, definitely.
Definitely a honeypot.
I slept with Snowden.
I slept with Snowden.
I think Lindsay Lohan can play her.
Well...
It won't be called that, of course.
If I was marketing it, it would be.
Yeah.
I'd have to think about it.
How about Sleeping with the Enemy?
That's already been used.
That's no good.
Fifty Shades of Snowden?
Now you're talking.
Fifty Shades of Snowden.
Breakfast?
At Berlin's?
I don't know.
But this whole thing stinks.
The Sarah Harrison business is bull.
Yeah, no, I agree with you 100% with this.
And I'd like to finish up just this, because it's Snowden-related.
How crazy this sounds, but the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board...
Which I had some reasonable high regard for with...
Who was the guy?
The main guy, David...
What's his name?
Miven?
Minden?
I forgot his name.
I don't know.
He got thrown into the basement whenever he wanted to talk about something because he was essentially saying, hey, this is not okay.
You've got to stop with this surveillance of American citizens.
Well, they come out now, and of course they have to release this.
I'm bringing it up right now.
They come out with their report.
Report on the surveillance program operated pursuant to Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.
And they're all in.
Everything's good now.
Oh, it's okay.
Don't worry about it.
No problems.
The whole report is saying everything's beautiful.
Go for it.
Even the clapper comes out.
We welcome the report of the Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board on Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.
In this important report, PCLOB confirms that Section 702 has shown its value in preventing acts of terrorism.
And the only thing this Miven guy got to do is he got to put a little separate section in the report that says, well, I still don't think, you know, we should look at some of this stuff, maybe, kinda.
They got to them so bad.
And so, you know, this is completely...
They must have threatened the guy with something.
You remember that he was against all of this?
Yeah, yeah.
No, they probably got the goods on him.
So this report says nothing, but ha ha!
Eh, let's go for it.
Let's go ahead.
Completely pathetic.
Okay, well, I can change the pace or we can take a break.
I'm going to show my support by donating to our channel.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on no agenda.
In the morning.
I think that's the way to go.
I think we're taking a break.
I think we are.
We have a few people to thank for contributing to show 631, including the top of the list.
Get your pen out.
You've got to get your pen out because I have to read this one.
This is Nicholas Principe.
Principe, which I think I call Principe, but it's Principe, Principe, Principe.
And he was in Raleigh, North Carolina, and he writes the following.
And you gotta get your pen out.
I need my pen?
Yes.
Alright, I got my pen.
I got my pen.
Go.
First, John, find and close my check for 152.90.
This should, by my math, be sufficient to raise me to knighthood without Adam having to throw in a pen.
He's got some accounting.
Oh.
If the name isn't taken, I'd like to be the knight of the numbers.
I once got a fortune from a fortune cookie that read, Don't let statistics do a number on you.
After nine years in the storage performance engineering, I can assure you that the statistics have done a number on me.
I have become unable to do basic math without using Excel.
Second, John and Adam, if you remember, near the end of last year, I sponsored the screening of the Black Cat in the name of the No Agenda Show.
Here's another result of that sponsorship of the No Agenda Show listed as Vampire Slayer.
Did you get your brochure?
No.
I did.
I got the brochure from the film festival.
It's got our name in there.
Oh, nice!
We're on the Vampire Slayer level donator.
Cool.
First resolved the sponsorship was the title card before the movie.
Adam played a clip on the show.
Yes.
No agenda is listed at the bottom of the first page of the first column.
Okay, we got it.
Nice.
Lately, as always, thank you for your courage to get a pronunciation.
My birthday is 7-9.
Enjoy a shout-out.
We'll give him to him today.
Oh, so not only does he become a knight, but he also has a birthday shout-out.
Neither of which was on the list.
Because I have the letter...
That's right.
...right here.
And I wasn't going to type all that stuff in and send it to Eric.
And what's his...
How old is he?
Doesn't say.
Okay, birth...
What is the birth date?
7-9.
July 9th.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'll give it to him today.
Got it.
In advance.
I got it, boss.
Good to go.
Anyway, that's him.
Sam Leung in Toronto, Ontario.
147-71.
He's always coming in.
Sir Sam, as a matter of fact.
Don Rosakis.
Hey, Montclair, New Jersey!
Montclair, New Jersey.
Joyce, my old hood, man.
Montclair.
She calls this the Boomshakalaka donation.
Bingo Boomshakalaka.
Love Slave D. So what is that number then?
101?
That's Bingo Boomshakalaka?
I guess so.
101.
We'll make it official.
Sir Jono, Elder of Zion in Israel, $100.
He's been very helpful, by the way.
He says thank you for your roughage.
He's been extremely helpful with a lot of the Middle East stuff that's been going on.
It's good because you can just email him and say, what's this with the Jews?
He doesn't get offended.
He's Israeli.
Israelis are hard to offend.
What's this with the Zionists?
Graham Scott in Australia.
Oh, he has a...
Sir Dr.
Sharkey in Jackson, Tennessee, 9880.
He had an idea here, by the way.
He said, instead of doing the temperature donation of the temperature where you live, why not donate your body temperature?
He says it could be a real winner doing flu season because it'll go up to 102 to 103 degrees!
Guy's a genius.
Yes.
Paul Tittle in Hamilton, Ontario, 88-19.
And now we have our 4th of July call-outs of $74.14 from the following people.
Matthew Januszewski in Chicago, Illinois.
Sir Thomas Nussbaum in Virginia Beach, Virginia.
Jeffrey Fitch in Wintergarden, Florida.
John Anderson in Youngsville, Louisiana.
Eric Kitnick in San Francisco.
Viscount Robert Goschko in Sherwood Park, Alberta.
Mac Tank in La Jolla, California.
Jason Fortune in Geneva, Illinois.
And he becomes a knight today with this donation.
And he's a knight today.
Maurice Tate in Vallejo, California.
The city that started it all.
Shane Pedden in Cartersville, Georgia.
Dwyer James in Hong Kong.
Sam Havholm in Endicott, New York.
Jaron.
Jeroen.
Jeroen in Den Bosch.
Den Bosch.
Jeroen in Den Bosch.
He's becoming a 4th of July.
No, he has a birthday.
Oh, well, I'm sorry, I got the colors wrong.
Yvesant Darmaj, Damar, Damar.
Vesant Damar.
Wait a minute.
This is an Indian guy.
Vasant?
Vasant?
Damaraj.
Sorry.
In San Jose, California.
Brad Doherty in Brooklyn, New York.
Harvey Lee in Federal Way.
Hold on, hold on.
Brad's going to be a knight today.
Well, Brad is going to be a knight.
He says, I'm a knight.
You will be.
This is note.
I'm a knight.
Where was I? Brad Doherty.
Harvey Lee in Federal Way, Washington.
Lai Chin Chow in Daly City, California.
He did send a little note and he wrote this up.
Where are the notes?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anyway, he said something.
Yes?
He said hi.
Hmm.
Hi to you too.
Here it is, Chow's note.
It's a little note.
Lie, I think, I don't know, it's L-A-I. It could be a girl.
Enclosed is the lucky 4th of July donation.
You, a check to bypass PayPal.
Anyway, I was recently laid off.
So, can you please send me some job hunting karma?
You know, this is a good example of somebody laid off.
Still taking part.
Yeah, we're going to give Karma and Jobs Karma at the end of this list, obviously, because we just can't...
So people know we don't read all the notes out loud anymore for the regular donation segment.
We do read them all.
We love what you're writing to us.
She'll get her thing.
I said lie, L-A-I. Look it up.
See if it's a female or male name in Mandarin or Cantonese.
Ex-Hamster?
Let me see.
Sir James Mann in Ringo, Louisiana.
And his call letters are K-F-5-Y-A-E. Yankee Alpha Echo.
Kentucky Fried 5 U Arab Emirates.
You know, I'm looking at, I did Lai Chian, and then I hit images, and there's about an equal amount of dudes as gals.
Wow.
All Chiners.
And some of them I can't even tell what they are.
Well, there's that.
Jean-Pierre Fassette in Ottawa, Ontario.
Oh, I'm sorry.
This is the Canadian.
We got two Canadians that came in on the first of July is their day.
Yeah, which we didn't mention.
I did in the newsletter.
Yeah.
So in the newsletter, we got the two Canadians came in.
That's how celebratory they are in Canada.
Two.
Two.
John-Pierre Fissette, 71-14, and Chris Terhart in Abbotsford in BC. Yeah, a lot of Dutch up there.
Okay, onward.
Robert Cobb, 55-55 in Brandon, Florida.
Jesse Simonin, Double Nickels on the Dime.
Stephen McConnell, Double Nichols on the Diamond, Cortland, Ohio.
Joshua Mandel, Greenville, South Carolina, 55-10.
And these last ones are $50 donors.
There's only a few.
Eric Bruhn, West St.
Paul, Minnesota.
Stephen Milliken in Corpus Christi, Texas.
And Greg Brunsel, I believe is a sir.
Kenosha, Wisconsin.
And finally, Brian Navarro, who comes in monthly through the mail from Los Angeles, California.
And then as we get ready for our general karma special call-out for Sir Mark Tanner, I would greatly appreciate if you'd give us a happy anniversary shout-out for 34 years of happiness with Lady Beverly.
34 years.
Is that anything?
Is that like...
Is that a wood?
No.
34?
34.
You got anything for that?
It's the lug nut.
Also, please send a little good luck car our way as we are headed to Vegas soon.
Thanks as always for the great show.
I'll be sending an extra contribution.
Thank you very much.
It's July 5th.
And then I did receive this morning, although the donation won't come through until Sunday, from Janet.
I just made a donation in honor of Sir Bernie Atoma's birthday on July 5th.
Included a note with my PayPal pound, but I thought I'd also email you to be sure.
Our shout-out made it on the show.
Sir Bernie never misses your show.
It will mean a lot to him.
So I had it back and forth, and I said, well, you know, cut off his midnight, but of course, first of all, it's Sir Bernie, and second of all, how lovely for you to do this for him as for his birthday.
So here's a shout-out.
I also enjoy listening to the show.
It's informative and entertaining.
It's awesome!
I got a letter from Devin Chapman that you got too.
He just wanted us to announce that they moved the block party to Saturday.
Oh!
So he wants some no rain karma, which we'll conclude with job karma at the end here.
I don't have a rain thing.
Fitchburg rocks.
I think we say do karma and then I use the rain stick.
No, no, no.
Don't do that.
Do not.
I said do not touch the stick.
So he makes this little note.
He says, I took a trip to New York to see Neil Gaiman at Carnegie Hall.
Before the show, I didn't know he was a singer.
Before the show, we took the tour of Carnegie Hall, and I found this quite interesting.
Andrew Carnegie's private box was number 33.
Ah, there you go.
Fitchburg Civic Days Black Party Karma.
Yeah.
Well, we want to thank everybody very much for supporting the program, particularly in this difficult week when people are thinking of other things here in the United States and in Canada as well, obviously.
And, of course, in Europe, all they're thinking about is war and how everything's going to crap.
So we appreciate that.
Of course, our executive producers and associate executive producers who always keep the show running.
We sincerely appreciate that, and we hope you give you value for value every single time as we try to delve through the mindless, human rights-violating propaganda crap that is being thrown at you every single day.
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Let's vote for jobs!
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And as always, support us for the Sunday show at Dvorak.org slash NA And as we just said, happy birthday, Sir Bernie, celebrating on the 5th from the lovely Janet.
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Sam Havlom, happy birthday to crazy little Mern.
Happy double of deuces as of 10-14 on July 4th.
Yeroon celebrating tomorrow.
And from Josie to Michael Andrews, who turned 39 yesterday.
And Nicholas Principe for Principe.
His birthday is on July 9th.
Happy birthday from your friends here at the best podcast in the universe!
I love that sound effect.
That's very good.
Here we go.
We have...
Let me read a little story here.
We have some knightings to do.
Do you mind?
I'm not paying attention.
Hold on a second.
This thing's stuck in here.
Okay.
Thank goodness.
Simon Bennett, step forward.
Jason Fortin, step forward.
Brad Goherty, Nicholas Principe, all of you today will join that illustrious and elusive and exclusive club known as the Knights and Danes of the Noagent Roundtable.
So I hereby pronounce thee, Sir Simon Bennett's...
Sir Knight of the Fox Valley, Sir Brad Doherty, and Sir Knight of the Numbers, Nicholas Principe.
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And we, again, highly appreciate your support of this program.
Pretty much nothing we talked about today.
Right down to Tourette's even, quite honestly.
You would only hear the sad music.
Ooh, suffering from Tourette's off the field!
When Adam is not doing the best podcast in the universe, he carries a much heavier burden as a sufferer of Tourette's Syndrome.
You'll probably get some ink for that.
I should.
Top story.
Former VJ suffers from Tourette's.
How did we never see it?
EPA employees told to stop pooping in the hallway.
This is two weeks old.
Stop.
I love this story.
It's dumb.
How about this?
Enough said.
Norway is talking about banning circumcision.
This is a thing that crops up from time to time, particularly in Europe.
Well, in America, it certainly was for a while.
Our culture had nothing to do with religion, as far as I know, to circumcise boys.
And this is now becoming a big deal.
And it's like, no, don't mutilate the children.
Well, I don't know.
Do you know where this comes from?
Do you know what this is about?
It's been going on for a while.
I believe it's something the women's movement has.
Oh, female circumcision.
It's a problem with the Muslims.
Well, then they figured men shouldn't get into something.
I'm not sure.
We should look into it.
I don't think it's got anything to do with the oil pipelines.
Maybe.
You know, I bet you with a little bit of work I can make it come right back down to a pipeline.
Newtown, Connecticut.
I didn't realize there was a Department of Justice Office for Victims of Crime.
I think I knew that.
And they hand out money.
Ooh, money!
And so, Newtown received $1.5 million grant from the office last year.
The public school district received $3.2 million.
Um...
And now the victim, the victim families are receiving $7.1 million in federal grant to support the victims.
Interesting.
Sounds like shut-up money to me.
It's called hush money.
Yeah.
Oh, same thing.
It's just very strange.
I mean, if something bad happens to you, is it normal we all just get money from the government?
If your loved one gets shot to death, do you get money from the government?
I know they're not throwing a lot of money into Oakland where there's a lot of people getting shot to death.
That's why I wonder, how does this work?
How do you qualify?
I don't know.
It's weird.
It's maybe worth looking into, but we probably won't.
No, we won't.
You're right.
Why bother?
Here's something that disturbed me.
They played it up as happy news.
Oh.
This is the news hour.
Apparently the production company's changing hands.
And that's the news hour for tonight.
But before we go, we would like to salute Robert McNeil and Jim Lehrer.
For their service in the United States Marine Corps.
Our founding fathers.
Tonight is the last edition of this program produced by the company they created to support what we call McNeil-Larer journalism.
As of tomorrow, we welcome WETA, the Washington, D.C. public television station, as it takes over.
Robin and Jim, we know you're watching.
Your legacy lives on.
Our journalism will remain the same, and you have our everlasting thanks.
It'll remain the same, you just won't see it on the show.
Yeah, right.
That's exactly right.
Yeah, the journalism will remain the same, but they're not going to be putting any of it on the air.
Do you have any backstory on this?
No, I just found out about it.
This played yesterday.
Wow.
And I went, what?
These are the two guys.
It used to be called the McNeil-Lair Report.
The whole idea was to get away from the mainstream media people that are propagandizing the public and try to deliver some real news and do it in an hour package instead of a half hour of quick bites.
Yeah, so you can play some stuff for a minute or two, yeah.
And so they would do more in-depth stuff, and then the Gates Foundation, it's not exciting enough!
And I think the Gates Foundation is somehow behind this whole thing.
They dumped the production company.
Huh.
They basically fired the production company and put in the local PBS affiliate in Washington, D.C. You don't think that's slanted?
Yeah, what is the call letters again?
W-E-T-A. W-E-T-A, Estimated Time of Arrival.
Hold on a minute.
Here's what you do.
W-E-T-A Gates Foundation.
Come on, John.
You could have done this.
Why am I doing all this?
You could have done it yourself.
I don't think they're going to...
Well, there might be a connection.
Oh, gee.
The Gates Foundation.
Grant will enable.
Let's see.
That's an old story.
This is not that hard to do.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But if you do W-E-T-A, the Gates Foundation, they're all over this.
Yeah, well, the Gates Foundation is behind us.
I didn't even have to do that.
I already said it.
Yeah, but it's nice if we have a little background on it.
Alright, well you got it.
Crazy.
Soon to be produced by CNBC, maybe.
How about that?
Why don't you just do that, people?
No, that's not going to happen yet.
Jeez.
Jeez.
Jeez, I tell you.
There's a new Polish member of the European Parliament.
I think you're coughing up $3.6 million to the WETA operation.
I'm sorry?
There's a lot of money going over there.
Hello?
I'm sorry, you keep going back...
$3.6 million, yeah.
That's just at a pop.
Yeah.
A new Polish member of European Parliament.
And I put the transcript of what you're about to hear him say into the show notes.
You have to kind of meld your mind to hear what he's saying, but I think it's very important you do hear it.
And in case you don't catch it all, I'll give you the transcript.
Mr.
Chairman, ladies and gentlemen, among the major challenges mentioned in the Appendix 1, I see the cost of energy.
But this cost is generated by the EU, thanks to the war on global warming.
This war, if effective, would harm the natural environment because what the plants need most for the growth is carbon dioxide.
Fortunately, this war has no effect at all, but the countries occupied by the EU had paid tremendous price.
The global warming, if it is real, is not anthropogenic, it is humbug, but it is the instrument to achieve a specific goal, zero growth.
At this goal, a clandestine dream of some person sitting among us had been reached.
For two trillion euros spent and wasted, it's felony.
I hope on January the prosecution office of the EU will be at last established and the culprits including the pseudo-scientists who had in bad faith supported this lunacy will be found, named, duly prosecuted, tried and put to the jail.
Okay, so I need to read the second half of that because he says some good things.
It's very hard to understand.
Well, it's quite funny to listen to him.
The global warming, if it is real, is not anthropogenic.
It is humbug!
Which he says humbug.
I like that.
Humbug!
It is humbug!
But it is the instrument to achieve a specific goal.
Zero growth!
And this goal, a clandestine dream of some person sitting among us, has been reached.
For two trillions of euro have been spent and wasted.
It is a felony.
I hope on January, it should be in January, the prosecution office of the EU will at last be established and the culprits, including the pseudoscientists who had in bad faith supported this lunacy, will be found, named, duly prosecuted, tried, and put to jail.
I'm liking this.
This is speaking truth to power.
Yeah, the thing is, we didn't understand what the fuck the guy said.
Someone needs to train him because his words are powerful, but when...
It's like, jeez!
He needs to work on his erudition.
Well, I got kind of involved in, you know, I followed my, I'm still working on this.
Good job, Poland.
You got a good guy there.
Good work.
I didn't realize, you know, we talk about global cooling and how it was a big deal in the 70s.
But that wasn't the real analog for what we're seeing today with global warming.
And I think this guy kind of made the point it's about zero growth.
Because the zero growth movement actually began in the late 40s.
Wait, there's an actual movement called the zero growth movement?
It wasn't called that.
It was called Population Control.
Ah.
And it began in the 40s, and it developed into the 50s, and then by the 60s, the book came out.
And now it's called Planned Parenthood?
No, no.
This is...
No.
No.
Essentially, I believe...
I don't know.
I'm not going to get into it.
But I was doing all my research on this thing when it was taking place with Earhart and all the rest of it.
On the zero population growth thing and the Club of Rome and how we're all going to be dead by...
Oh yeah, sure.
Everybody was all in.
To such an extreme, it's the same exact thing as global warming.
If you brought up in 1972 the idea that the population could double, the world population could double, and it would be fine, it'd probably be less salmons than there are today, you would be shouted down the same way you get shouted down for global warming.
Right, and this is now, that was 40 years ago.
Well, yeah, people forget.
That's how long we have to deal with this global warming crap?
Yeah.
Well, look how long it took to evolve.
It started in the 40s with a couple of reports, government reports, about the population being too many people.
And then in the 50s, it really started becoming an intellectual thing and started being discussed as a population bomb.
And then you ended up with the popularization of the books.
Yeah.
And the Club of Rome and all the rest of it, it was a 30-40 year cycle.
It was the 50s, all of the 50s, all of the 60s, and all of the 70s.
30 years of it before people stopped talking about it.
And they still talk about it a little bit, but not as much as they were talking about it where you get shouted down.
This is about the same, we're probably about, I don't know, two-thirds of the way through the global warming hysteria, which is going to last another decade.
I'm so tired already.
And there's a new meme, by the way, that we can look out for.
Since we failed at carbon neutrality, the new meme is, we have to go carbon negative.
Put it in the book.
I'm not putting it in the book, I'm putting it as a show title.
We're going carbon negative, baby.
That's how we roll.
Carbon negative.
That would create zero gross.
But I think during the population boom, I think this is just an extension of that.
The fears of the world population, which by the way, I saw a very interesting lecture on how it's going to level off and just basically go flat with X number of billions.
And what lecture was this?
Can we find this somewhere?
I had a clip in some show.
We never played it.
Anyway, I think this is just an extension of the same thing.
You know, this desire by the rich to stop things from growing and, you know, it's too easy to lose control.
A war breaks out and people take their stuff.
And what is the best way to...
Hey!
Hey, man, don't take my Maybach!
Don't touch my stuff!
Yeah, you're right.
And what is the best way to control the people in today's day and age?
What do you have to control?
Uh...
of water.
No, that would be a good one.
That's the latest one, by the way.
The water scare.
I have this.
I have this.
Hold on.
I have it here.
It's easy to know the price of this around the world.
A bottle of water.
But not so much this.
Water the commodity.
It is the most precious of commodities.
And in the future, world population growth and climate change could combine to make potable water much more scarce.
So now people are pondering a world a couple decades into the future where water could be traded on a futures exchange like oil or gold so that there's a more efficient pricing mechanism.
Water is more challenging, however, than other commodities.
Blah, blah, blah.
You're right.
It's already being put into place.
Water.
Water.
Commodity.
More precious than gold or oil.
Water.
Yeah.
The thing you really want to control is the internet, of course.
Well, that would be a useful thing.
Two documents, and that is all I'm going to do for today.
Lots more on Sunday.
But two documents that correspond in some very, very interesting ways.
One is, we have this mayor's thing.
The Council of Mayors.
I think it's what it's called.
And they apparently get together, and then they make resolutions.
And with these resolutions, they go back, and then they essentially ramrod things through their own cities.
It's kind of a new world order of the mayors.
And they had a recent meeting, and they released their resolutions, which is 260 pages.
But well worth talking about just a few things.
Of course, the main thing they're always concerned about is children, health, and human services.
And I just want to read this.
Supporting the implementation of Common Core State Standards with rigorous and comparable assessments.
So this just shows you how the Common Core is going to be ramrodded through no matter what you say, no matter what you want.
And the things that are in here are very interesting, where they say, just like the United Nations, where they have whereas, whereas, whereas, whereas, it is therefore be it resolved.
You know these kinds of documents?
Oh yeah.
So it's very kind of official looking.
So whereas officers demonstrate a locally led national movement of governors and state commissioners of education from 48 states, whatever you're eating, the packaging is making a lot of noise.
Sorry!
Whereas Common Core state standards are internationally benchmarked with top performing countries, standards have been widely accepted among states, increased student achievement particularly for the most disadvantaged students, So somehow the poor suckers get better for them.
Somehow.
Somehow.
So we need some free broadband while we're at it.
And that's really what I was looking for in this document.
Because they have something to say about broadband.
And this is very important because mayors really control a lot of the competition That does or does not go into your local city based upon resolutions of carriage of wires on telephone poles opening up streets, permission to do all that.
And that is the real reason why there's little competition is companies like Comcast and Time Warner, they signed deals with the local municipalities saying, okay, we're going to invest in the broadband, but you can't let anyone else put a wire next to ours on the pole.
And this is the real problem.
So these mayors resolve under the heading, preserving a free and open internet.
A free and open internet, which can be interpreted in many ways.
And it's interesting because they use the exact same, to the letter, the exact same words as the FCC. And they have a lot of whereas in here.
I like this.
Since interception, the internet has existed based on principles of freedom and openness, core values that have made it the most powerful communication medium ever known.
Huh.
I'm not so sure, but okay.
More so than the human voice and the development of language?
Yes, clearly.
And the written word?
Whereas the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. in 2010 determined that the long-observed open internet principles of non-discrimination, non-blocking transparency described below should not be declared in an FCC policy statement, but instead should be enshrined in formal rulemaking, seeking to reinstate those principles.
So they're all in...
On the net neutrality, in fact, it says, whereas these rules enshrine the values of what is commonly referred to as net neutrality.
And here is the sad part, which I'm going to focus on in the second document we'll discuss.
Whereas the second principle states that fixed broadband providers may not block lawful content, application services, or non-harmful devices.
Mobile broadband providers may not block lawful websites or block applications that compete with their voice and video telephony services.
And fixed broadband providers may not unreasonably discriminate in transmitting lawful network traffic.
What does that mean, lawful?
We've talked about this a million times.
I know, but it's important that we bring this up again.
Very important.
To finalize this, Lawful, lawful, lawful.
In fact, they do it continuously.
Lawful, lawful, lawful.
They have, be it resolved, the U.S. Conference of Mayors supports securing a commitment to transparency, the free flow of information over the internet, including no blocking of lawful websites, no unreasonable discrimination of lawful network traffic.
I ask you, what is lawful network traffic?
But most importantly, be it resolved that the U.S. Conference of Mayors recommends the FCC preempt state barriers to municipal broadband service as a significant limitation to competition in the provision of internet access.
Which means you can't just do something together like your own little deal there.
It's very disturbing.
Mesh network.
Can't do it.
Illegal.
Illegal.
So, the only reason I bring up those pieces is because the FCC finally, and you have until July 15th the comment, released their proposed rules for protecting and promoting the open internet.
And I started to look at it, you know, I started to go through it thinking, oh, well, let's see what we can find in here.
This is the NPRM, the Notice of Proposed Rulemaking.
It's released in the Federal Register.
I haven't heard anyone talk, I haven't seen a single website even point to this.
We have the entire document, 90 pages marked up in the show notes, 631.noagendanotes.com.
And again, you have until July 15th the comment.
I have no idea how any...
Mere mortal can comment on any of this because it's so much gobbledygook crap about just bullshit.
It's all bullshit.
But the main thing, and yes, we talked about this, but I think it's important we bring it up again.
Because this is the only thing you need to focus on.
Not about fast lanes.
Not about slow lanes.
Not about packet inequality.
None of that.
You need to talk about and ask questions of who determines what is legal content?
Who determines what is legal network traffic?
What does that mean?
And who is going to determine that?
Will that be the FCC? Will that be Congress?
What is legal?
They will spin off a committee, it'll be FCC related, like a steering committee, a subcommittee of the FCC, some group that's sanctioned by the FCC. And the FCC's been trying to get its hands on the cable business forever.
Because they can't censor it.
They can censor broadcast TV. If somebody shows a nipple, they can fine you $350,000, which has been done, because they've got rules.
And they've always been trying to get their greasy fingers in on other things, including the cable TV people, because they're cussing too much on cable TV.
And it creates it because they're talking like real people talk.
They cuss.
They say whatever they want.
And it creates a disadvantage for the network TV folks, which is really what this is all about, which is protecting them.
The big giant corporations that own the big three networks, four networks, including Fox.
And so what you want to do is you've got to get the Internet is a huge competitor to the TV networks.
Massive.
It's screwing them.
People are watching more YouTube videos, especially the millennials.
This stuff, we need some rules in place because there's a lot of illegal hate speech.
Yes, that'll be one.
Hate speech will be one, yes.
Porn.
Porn will be another.
To a lesser extent than hate speech.
How about saying things like Jews and A-Rads and Cripples and Tourettes and A-Holes.
Hate speech.
And calling people names like Watermelon Head or...
Hate speech.
Hate speech.
Now, but it gets more interesting because the second, the order, they call it the order...
Adopted anti-blocking requirements.
The order is lawful content, lawful applications, lawful services, and lawful network traffic.
That's the one that really gets me.
So in order to approve network traffic as lawful and legal, you have to look at it.
You have to inspect every single packet.
And we are the only people talking about this.
And there's, of the 90 pages, 60 of them have the word legal or lawful in them.
And nowhere is there a determination what is legal, what is lawful, or who is going to...
No definition.
No, no definition.
And who is going to determine that?
Your government.
Your government.
Your governments, they're on your side, Adam.
They're not trying to do anything bad.
I would like...
They're not trying to shut down the show.
I would like every person who, if you ever have a conversation about net neutrality, you need to say, I don't give a crap about fast lanes or slow lanes.
The minute you allow any regulation, it comes down to lawful and legal content, applications, services, and network traffic.
I'm going to presume some kind of legislation is going to be some regulation.
Are you presuming the same?
I'm presuming.
I've been predicting this for a decade.
Podcast licenses.
Blog licenses.
In Brazil, for example, you had to be a journalist in Brazil.
You have to have a license.
You have to be licensed to be a journalist.
And we've seen the push toward this.
They can't get around the First Amendment.
That's kind of the drawback we've been trying to do.
But you can with something like the Internet.
The Internet's not protected by the First Amendment.
I mean, maybe it is in some...
realm of thinking, but it's almost like I don't think anyone's going to fight it.
It's for the best.
It's for the best.
I'm concerned about the fast lanes.
But that's the distraction.
And it's a brilliant one.
Yeah, that's quite good.
But when you read through this document, which I encourage you to do...
Not you, John.
You don't give a crap.
I'm not going to read it.
Why bother?
That's why you have me.
People will see.
It's very, very, very sad.
It is almost as sad as the war on cash, which turns out, I didn't know this, I was laughing about this Oyster system, the Oyster card in the UK. Oh man, that's nothing.
DC has this, Chicago has this, and it's already being used as a debit card.
Lollapalooza this year launches cashless payments to lure in millennials, says Adweek.
How dumb are the millennials to fall for this?
They're all in, baby.
I have my doubts about them.
I think the best thing we can do is when society breaks down, we're going to have to eat the millennials.
That's what's going to come down.
They'll be the most juicy.
They'll have the tenderest meat.
They'll roast real easy.
And you can probably convince him to hop on the fire.
Right, just say that's where all the hipsters are doing it.
All the kids are doing it.
Jump on board!
I've got a quick clip that I want to play that I think is something that's trending.
It's not trending massively, but it's trending enough that I think it's being held in abeyance to further scare the public.
Oh, well, yeah, I'm all in.
Let's go.
Ebola.
Yeah, I've seen this being rocked by...
Sanjay Gupta and yeah.
Other world news for you and the number of deaths attributed to an epidemic of the Ebola virus in Guinea, Liberia and Syria alone has risen now to 467.
That's out of a total of over 750 cases in all.
The new figures show a 17% rise in deaths and a 20% jump in cases in the space of just one week.
An emergency meeting of 11 West African health ministers being held today in Ghana in fact to try to coordinate a regional response.
Yeah, I've been watching this.
Keep an eye on it.
Yeah, keep an eye on that.
That's my pick to click.
Okay, so there's a couple of things we'll be talking about on Sunday.
I've got actually a ton of stuff.
Japan...
Definitely some med stuff.
Dudes named Ben.
Got a lot of dudes named Ben we didn't get to today.
Yeah, writing us.
Yeah, writing us about email policy, retention, and I have some insiders at the IRS who are telling me about how the systems there work, so I think that'll be fun to talk about and to read them.
Again, all dudes named Ben.
And if you have a dude named Ben who works in your organization, say hi!
And tell him you appreciate what he or she does.
And tell him to listen to No Agenda.
Yes, indeed.
For those of you in the United States of Gitmo Nation, enjoy the sale!
The sale is a white sale.
It's a white sale.
That is what we celebrate on the 4th of July.
And to you, John, I say thank you for your courage.
Thank you for your courage, Adam.
And coming to you from the capital of the Drone Star State here in FEMA Region 6 in the morning, everybody, my name's Adam Curry.
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