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	Yeah, they gotta wipe these people out.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Sunday, February 16th, 2014.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 5902.
	This is No Agenda.
	Welcome to the official non-governmental organization podcast from FEMA Region 6 here in the Travis Heights high dot roster, Texas.
	Good morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	From northern Silicon Valley, I have no idea what he said.
	I'm John C. Devorak.
	Is that because you can't hear me, or it was unclear?
	No, actually, I could, but you were long.
	I don't know what you said.
	And also, the music's a little louder than you.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Well, I was just saying that this is the official non-governmental organization podcast from FEMA Region 6.
	We need to be a non-governmental organization.
	No, but I've looked into this.
	We can be a non-governmental organization without being, you know, like an official 5013C non-profit.
	This is true.
	Why not?
	We can just make something up.
	This is it.
	And I've tried it last night.
	I gave it a shot.
	We had a couple's dinner.
	A couple's dinner.
	I know.
	What does this even mean?
	Aren't all dinners kind of a couple's dinner?
	This is, so here's what happened.
	One of the, Mickey has, I think two years ago we met this beautiful girl, probably the most beautiful black woman I've ever seen, like Cleopatra Jones beautiful.
	And Mickey, they started doing stuff, and she has fashion stuff, and Mickey used her for a lot of her artwork, so she's kind of Mickey's muse.
	And her husband, I think we've talked about this, her husband is a lobbyist here in Texas, but he's totally no agenda material.
	That's a good thing.
	Yeah, no, it's a very good thing.
	And she's pregnant.
	I guess she has like three more weeks to go.
	And someone was going to do a baby shower.
	And then it went from a baby shower.
	Anyway, so Mickey says about a week and a half ago, she says, oh, look, I got shanghaied in this thing.
	It was supposed to be like a baby shower.
	But now it's a Saturday night.
	I know you're prepping, but it's this couple's dinner thing.
	Whatever.
	Please, please, please.
	I said, okay, no problem.
	I'll go.
	So there's five couples.
	There's ten people.
	That's a pretty good-sized event.
	Yeah, and it's pretty much the worst thing you can do to me.
	Certainly on a...
	And I knew...
	Actually, some good...
	There's a lot of good that came out of it, because besides the lobbyist, the banker was also there.
	And I'll talk about him later, because he knows one of the bankers that committed suicide.
	So we can bring a little info in about that.
	But then...
	You know, I had the opportunity with three new couples to reintroduce myself and come up with new ways of saying it.
	New ways to not annoy people?
	No, no.
	New ways to talk about what I do.
	Okay.
	See, I work for a non-governmental organization.
	I work for an NGO here in Austin.
	That must just go over.
	That's got to be huge.
	It's a winner.
	Really?
	Oh, wow.
	You know, the funny thing is...
	Technically, our show is a non-governmental organization.
	That is not government.
	General Motors.
	Well, hold on.
	Did they pay the money back yet?
	I think so.
	Okay, then they're an NGO. So I tried it two different ways.
	I tried NGO and non-governmental organization.
	And NGO works better, hands down, because they don't even know what it stands for.
	Oh, okay, great.
	Oh, so you just Buffalo them.
	Yeah, so what do you do with the NGO? I'm a legislation analyst.
	Oh, wow, this is fantastic.
	So I think we just need to say it, the N-A-N-G-O. We are an official NGO, and I'm just going to keep trying it, see how far I can take it.
	It seems to work.
	I work for an NGO. Let me see if I practice on this.
	Hello, I'm John.
	How are you?
	Hi.
	Hey, I've seen you around here at the club.
	What do you do?
	Yeah, I come around once in a while.
	I work for an NGO. Oh, really?
	Do you come here often at Swinger's Paradise?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Most NGO people get nothing else to do because they pay you.
	Oh, man.
	Oh.
	All right.
	So, actually, we met some nice people.
	Homeschoolers and everyone.
	It was kind of a mixed batch.
	It was nice.
	But, of course, at 9.30, I'm like, okay, nice drinking with y'all, but I got to go.
	Why?
	NGO work.
	Oh, that's official business.
	He has to go.
	Official business.
	But that was nothing compared to Valentine's Day.
	Uh-oh.
	I have to say, I feel gypped and screwed, and I don't know if you witnessed any of this, but I got guilted, and this whole, it was really bad this year.
	Typically, you know, I can get away with whatever, but somehow, because we had the show before Valentine's Day, and, you know, and I had, it was another thing, oh yeah, we had, that's right, we had a thing going, I don't know, this is crazy with the social calendar.
	Anyway, I didn't, you know, think of reserving anything or, you know, like restaurant or any of this.
	And Friday morning, Mickey wakes me up with a beautiful card and breakfast and candles.
	I'm like, ah!
	Oh, you dropped the ball!
	Like, oh, freaking Russian fragger!
	I said, kill me!
	I'm like, oh, at least give me the morning to arrange some stuff.
	She's like, no, no, don't worry.
	You had a show yesterday.
	I know.
	It's okay.
	I'm like, okay, this is very obvious.
	The gauntlet is down.
	Yeah, that's not good.
	Oh, no, don't worry about it.
	Don't worry about forgetting about me.
	But I didn't forget.
	It was not okay, this.
	I was totally shamed and guiltless.
	I hop in the truck.
	I'm running around to flower shops.
	Let me tell you something that I didn't know, but it seems obvious.
	Flowers in Texas, not a good match.
	And people literally would look at me like, seriously, you're here for roses right now on Valentine's Day?
	And they'd walk away from me.
	The people in the store would walk away like I was a degenerate.
	Yeah, I would do the same thing.
	So I wound up finding, you know, some handmade chocolate, and I got a beautiful card, and I drew, and you know how when you have the card, and you have the magic marker, and you're doing, like, your thing, and you're lucky you got through the spelling, but then I drew the heart, and it kind of looked like an upside-down butt crack.
	It was, ugh, totally horrible.
	But then...
	After our dinner, which I was quick to arrange something, we were invited to spend our Valentine's evening with the constitutional lawyer and his wife, because they're big donors to the Zack Theater here, and we went to see the play In the Next Room.
	Or The Vibrator Play, as it's known.
	Are you familiar with this play?
	Never heard of it.
	It was by Sarah Rule, and believe me, I'm just reading what I googled.
	It was nominated for Tony's, and I think it won a Tony.
	What's the name of it again?
	In the Next Room, The Vibrator Play.
	And it's about the first doctor who used the vibrator on women to rid them of their hysteria.
	The play may be very well written, but we're in the first act, halfway through the first act, and Mickey and I are looking at each other like, oh my god, this acting is so bad.
	It's just completely horrible.
	Welcome to the locals.
	And maybe ten minutes after that, all of a sudden, a guy keels over right behind us from a heart attack, probably because of the acting.
	And this is the third time this has happened with me.
	So I don't know if it's me.
	I've heard of this play because it actually premiered in Berkeley.
	Yes, that's right.
	Exactly.
	That should tell you enough right there.
	So the guy, he keels over.
	And Mickey stops the play.
	What?
	Yeah, this is the woman you want when there's an emergency.
	So this guy keels over forward, you know, and so now he's like one row behind us.
	And Mickey just stands up and says...
	Oh, this is unbelievable.
	Yes, and Mickey stands up and says...
	Your stories are better than mine.
	He says, stop, stop, medical doctor, medical doctor!
	And I'm like, as opposed to a veterinarian?
	I don't know, what are we going to do?
	And it's good, because everyone's frozen, and Mickey's like, alright, call, is there a doctor here, a medical doctor?
	And people are like, shall I call 911?
	And Mickey's like, yes, call 911, you, you, you, call 911, just totally take it over.
	I think she saved the guy's life.
	She probably did.
	Or...
	That's a Valentine's Day gift.
	Yeah, well, and that really kind of blew me up.
	You know, you really blew it.
	I know what you could have done to save the moment.
	Not the play moment, but before.
	Uh-huh.
	You have a local guy there.
	He's been wanting to meet you.
	You could have called him up, telling him he has to do a little act.
	It was like part of it.
	Pretend that it's been planned in advance and have Brian Brushwood come over and do some magic.
	And it would finish off with a bouquet of fake roses.
	Boom.
	Right.
	Out of his ear.
	All I had to do was call Brian Brushwood.
	How stupid am I? I could have taken care of all of this.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, he'd fake it.
	Anyway.
	No, you blew it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I did.
	Mimi's just, it doesn't happen in my family, it doesn't like that.
	I usually call on Tuesday, a couple of days before, or if I'm not up there, I'm down here, and she calls me, Mimi will call and say, Hey, don't forget, it's Valentine's Day.
	Really?
	Make sure to send Jay something.
	But you don't have to send your daughter something.
	Is that part of Valentine's?
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah.
	No.
	Christina and I stopped.
	Well, in America, it tends to be.
	Man.
	All the women that you have seen in the last six months, if you put your eyes on them, you have to send them something.
	If you lay eyes on them.
	Oh, I saw.
	What's the date?
	Oh, damn.
	It's just across the deadline.
	But it's such a bogey.
	It's such a bogey.
	You got to send them at least a hello.
	Yeah.
	Well, that's what the e-cards, that's why that was a great invention.
	Oh, I love you, kind of.
	Here's an e-card.
	Anyway, so I had lots of time to work on real things besides bogatedness.
	I think this story about the heart attack in the theater is priceless.
	This is the third time, though.
	The previous time was...
	What?
	People dropping around her?
	Yeah, no, no, around me.
	Remember the UT game on Thanksgiving where the lady died right down two rows below me?
	Then we had the heart attack on the plane last time we flew.
	This is like the third heart attack.
	Huh.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I don't know.
	You might have some vibe coming off.
	Yeah, maybe.
	Well, a third, three.
	Three is a random number.
	You probably won't happen again ever in your life.
	Probably not.
	So I focused on the three things that we were talking about last.
	I focused on NGOs because you blew me away with your study.
	And to revisit that, I don't remember exactly what the study was, but the result was people believe...
	It was the trust study done by Edelman on a yearly basis.
	Right, exactly, which you were not supposed to report on.
	It's a secret.
	I'm not supposed to write it up.
	That's the way I heard it.
	Okay, that's what I heard, too.
	So I didn't write a word of it.
	Not a word.
	And so the trust study is people trust non-governmental organizations the most.
	And so I decided it was time to probably revisit a couple of these.
	Wow.
	Particularly human...
	Oh, my God.
	Particularly human rights watch?
	Oh yeah, those guys.
	Well, these are kind of the guys.
	They're the ones that have been doing all the Soachi stuff.
	That's the way to pronounce it, by the way.
	Soachi.
	Soachi.
	Not Sochi.
	Soachi.
	Well, before you go there, I do have one clip that relates to where I think you might be headed.
	All right, good.
	Which is, I have a clip of a woman.
	It's one of our ski jumpers, a female ski jumper.
	This is the first time they had female ski jumpers.
	The clip, by the way, is the Olympian does not get the memo.
	And I suspect that because she's pretty, she's a pretty Olympic ski jumper, and they had her on RT just telling what she thought about the whole situation and all the other, you know, give her an impression.
	And I believe that she was one of the people that weren't briefed, because who's gonna talk to her?
	And so she was honest, not briefed, and she told it like it is about Sochi.
	Nevertheless, have been enjoying life outside the games, we heard from some competitors.
	I find it beautiful.
	I think it's been organized great, and everybody's really nice, and of course the scenery is just fabulous.
	It was hard not to pay attention to how much negativity it was getting, but I was trying to stay optimistic.
	I knew I was coming here regardless, and so far I have been so pleasantly surprised.
	Well, as a sidetrack to that, I have been following the Olympics.
	I tried to re-catch the fever, which is very, very, very hard with all the negativity surrounding it.
	One of the couples last night, the guy used to be in radio sales.
	Now, I think you and I pretty much can identify a radio sales guy from a million miles away because they know exactly what's going on, right?
	And they're kind of, they're like stock traders almost.
	Would you agree?
	That's a very typical kind of guy.
	Floor guy.
	Floor guy.
	But he understands what's going on in life.
	And we got to talking about the Olympics and he said, oh my God, they're doing it so well.
	Did you see the snowboarder whose brother is all messed up and he's like...
	Even though he was a better snowboarder, he got Parkinson's or some horrible disease.
	I just didn't put the camera on that guy a little too long.
	Oh, what do you mean?
	It's beautiful in slow-mo.
	It's terrible.
	We were talking about how that has got to be a ratings bonanza.
	Anyway.
	He definitely gets the tear to come out of most people's eyeballs.
	Of course.
	There's a lot of tear-jerking moments in these Olympics.
	And then our short program ice skater fell and then he got up and he finished his program.
	A true Olympic moment.
	I shed another tear.
	Fell on his ass.
	People were falling all over the place.
	But he didn't lose because he had the Olympic spirit.
	If you look at Human Rights Watch, their record is so atrocious.
	In fact, Malinowski, I think it is, who was a high-ranking official at Human Rights Watch, was nominated and approved to be Assistant Secretary of State for Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor.
	And subsequently is now in, convenes actually the Tuesday meetings where they determine who they're going to kill with the drone.
	This is Human Rights Watch.
	And this guy was in government before.
	So he went out of government into Human Rights Watch and back again.
	And these people are all for renditions, you know, as long as they're not, you know, inhumane.
	This is a horrible organization.
	It really is.
	And so, of course, I had to pull their 990 just to see what's going on.
	They have, oh my god, I think they do $35 million in revenue in one year.
	I'm pulling up the 990 now, so I can just give you the, I made a couple of markups.
	Yeah, I think what was kind of interesting...
	Here we go.
	What did they do?
	Yeah, they did $36 million in total revenue for 2012.
	Salaries, $11 million.
	Seems a little on the heavy side, if you ask me, but okay.
	How many people do they have working there?
	Well, they don't specify everything because they don't have to, first of all.
	They only show the top people who are working there.
	And it's all within reason.
	They got a lot of people making $240,000 to $260,000.
	But when you really see the grants they paid out was $3.7 million.
	So they almost tripled the amount in salaries as to what they actually paid out in grants.
	All the rest of the money...
	I'm sorry, this is Human Rights Campaign.
	This is the split-off.
	So you have the Human Rights Watch, then you have Human Rights Campaign, Human Rights Campaign Foundation.
	It's a web of stuff.
	And this is the gay and lesbian thing, HRC. In fact, the Human Rights Campaign, this is from their tax form, the Human Rights Campaign is organized and operated for the promotion of the social welfare of the lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender community by inspiring and engaging people from around the globe.
	That is their mission statement.
	And what they do is they give little bits and bobs to, you know, just to different LGBT organizations.
	But the majority of the money is going into overhead and lobbying.
	$2 million for lobbying.
	And then the page where they have all their donors, because it says their money comes from individuals, they have all the amounts, because they don't have to report it.
	None of the names.
	So there's an individual who gave $150,000, $341,000, but no names.
	It's completely non-transparent, this whole thing.
	Well, now you've confused me.
	Why?
	Why?
	Well, because what about Human Rights Watch?
	Did you get their $9.99?
	Yeah, oh, they have over $150 million.
	No, but I think what I'm trying to say is they're split-offs, and you have to follow all these individual little bits.
	And the Human Rights Watch, that is pretty much one for one the State Department, and a lot of their money comes from, what is it, the Democratic Endowment?
	Not fund.
	What is it?
	Endowment?
	Come on, what is it?
	What is that thing called?
	The Endowment for Democracy?
	Come on, help me out.
	I don't know what it is.
	I never heard of it.
	Yes, of course you do.
	It's that big drinking club.
	Well, there's a lot of those.
	Hold on a second.
	National Endowment for Democracy.
	You know this, don't you?
	I've heard of that?
	Yes!
	This is where Hillary Clinton speaks at this all the time.
	Oh yeah, that operation.
	Madeline Albright.
	Yeah, they take somehow...
	There's somebody funneling money to them.
	That is directly from the State Department.
	And then they distribute it out to all these other groups, including Human Rights Watch, and Human Rights Now, and Human Rights Campaign, and Human Rights Foundation.
	And these are all the NGOs, and they come up with little reports.
	And even though we reported on it way ahead of time, it seems that for some reason this now is news.
	A group monitoring freedom of the press worldwide has issued a strong rebuke to the U.S. The World Press Freedom Index ranks the U.S. 46th this year, down from 13 spots down from last year.
	Reporters Without Borders says the U.S. had, quote, one of the most significant declines in press freedom.
	And now if you look at the numbers, We're really talking a difference of 4% over last year.
	So on a scale of 1 to 100, there's a 4% decline that puts the U.S. in 46th place.
	Is this not a 4% decline?
	That's not right.
	Yeah, it is.
	We were 33 before, right?
	No, no, no.
	If you look at the actual document, it's a number scoring system.
	Oh, I see what you're saying.
	Yeah, this is like showing a graph.
	The input.
	Yeah, the input is literally a 4% difference over last year because everything is so close.
	You know, when they have the numbers about education, oh, America's 190th on the list, which is really, it's like two basis points different from number two.
	It's just it looks really good and makes for a good press release.
	Nice catch.
	Yeah.
	And this will go nicely with our new domain name.
	Thank you, Paul, the InfoSec guy.
	ReportersWithoutBoredom.com.
	I guess we came up with that last time.
	And we have ReportersWithoutBoredom.com as our website, because I think we should be doing our own little report.
	And that, of course, brought me right back to the human rights NGOs, And I thought maybe it would be interesting to revisit, briefly, human rights.
	Could people talk about human rights, gay rights, animal rights, but mainly human rights, and I guess the big thing is LGBTQI rights.
	But where do these rights come from?
	Who determines the rights?
	Who codifies the human rights?
	When were these put into existence?
	Okay, you're asking me?
	I don't know if you recall.
	Well, I mean, the way it's usually presented is there were God-given rights.
	Exactly.
	Right.
	Except this really happened in the 90s.
	That's when...
	I didn't know that God came through.
	Was he passing through in the 90s?
	Well, he got stuck in the 80s.
	He got stuck with shoulder pads and he was grooving too much.
	He came in in the 90s.
	And that's really when the United Nations codified all this.
	And what I was going to do is go back to a quick clip.
	I pulled this from one of our earlier shows from the early 300s.
	I remember this, by the way.
	When I interviewed Samuel Moyne, Professor at Columbia.
	Yeah, professor at Columbia.
	And he specifically talks about where these human rights really came from, but what they're really used for.
	And as you might guess, they're not really to protect other people's human rights.
	They're used to impose military warfare on countries who are accused, or states as he will say, who are accused of not protecting human rights, which is exactly what's going on.
	So I thought it might be good to revisit that.
	As you imply, human rights are open to so many divergent uses.
	And the one thing I would clarify is that the UN tries to introduce human rights right after World War II, and that's how we get the Universal Declaration.
	But no one really cares.
	And in a way, the UN initially is where human rights go to die.
	So what happens in the post-war period is that human rights are kind of reclaimed from the UN. On the one hand, ordinary people, part of amnesty and eventually part of human rights groups like Human Rights Watch, begin to take a claim to human rights, to analyzing other states, to criticizing other states.
	We have the Human Rights Council, a United Nations body that does this for a living.
	It definitely does so.
	It definitely does so.
	But there are also so-called non-governmental organizations which try to provide an alternative human rights forum to the United Nations.
	And then presidents do it.
	So statesmen since Jimmy Carter have invoked human rights, have said American foreign policy should abide by human rights or even promote human rights.
	And there we get into, I think, what's quite difficult about it because human rights could mean lots of different things.
	And it really depends who's invoking them and to what purpose.
	I wouldn't want to rule out that it can be a language that can make a difference since interfering with other sovereignties may be something worth doing.
	And there may be ways of doing it that improve the world.
	But as you suggest, or fear, it could also be subject to abuse.
	And I think we have to just be realists and look out so that when we hear human rights, we ask what for, which rights, with whose interests in mind.
	And that is a professor who has written the book about human rights.
	How does human rights and droning some family out in the middle of nowhere, Yemen, go together?
	How does that go together?
	Yeah, it doesn't.
	The only way I see it going together is if you condition people enough to not care.
	And that's also kind of his point, is that Americans really don't care And if you look at what's going on, if you look at the spy programs, the IRS targeting, and really anything...
	No one really cares.
	It's a punchline.
	You know what kind of makes that don't care kind of interesting in an ironic way?
	Is that there are two political factions that dominate the conversation in the United States, the conservatives and the liberals.
	Right.
	And they both pretend to care in a lot of different ways, but when the ball is in their court, as it is in the liberals' court at the moment...
	They don't care.
	Well, they don't do anything about it.
	Nobody gives a crap about Obama's kill list.
	No.
	They talk a big...
	Oh, it's terrible.
	It's terrible.
	What are we having for dinner tonight?
	And then what's interesting is...
	And it's fun to watch the...
	The LGBTQI community sit by idly while they are being misused in the latest round of what the human rights organizations, the NGOs, the non-governmental organizations who are either directly or indirectly funded by the federal government, are misusing gay and rainbow for their own benefit.
	Of course!
	And to increase their, I know, but to increase the coffers, and everyone's going along blindly.
	They don't care.
	They don't care or they're part of it.
	Or maybe it's a social thing.
	I mean, go back to, again, the gay news with Andy Hum and, what's her name, Northrop woman.
	They don't really go beyond anything superficial.
	Just like, oh, somebody's a douchebag.
	This guy said that gays are bad.
	This guy said that gays are bad.
	I mean, there's nothing more to it.
	They don't see any big picture, and they don't care about the truth about the Russians or anything in between.
	They don't care.
	Well, here's the latest...
	I think blatant misuse of the alternative lifestyle and sexuality communities.
	And can we stop with calling it a community?
	A community.
	And a community.
	You're lesbian.
	You're gay.
	Transgestured.
	This is a new one.
	You're bicurious, bisexual, heteroflexal, whatever it is.
	It's just community.
	You're part of the community of the human people.
	But this, this one really blew me away.
	Facebook users, your about section just expanded in a big and maybe, for many of you, unfamiliar way.
	Under gender, there's now a custom option and it allows you to choose from 50 terms.
	Here's some of the examples.
	Cisgender, gender fluid, two-spirit, intersex, and neither.
	Joining me now, Rich Ferraro, Vice President of Communications for GLAAD. Now let's pay close attention to what's going on here.
	This is a representative from GLAAD. This is another non-governmental organization.
	And this guy is peeing in his pants with joy.
	That they have somehow, it was so hard to convince Facebook to allow people to customize their gender, where really, Facebook is going, wow, thank you for yet another invaluable data point so we can send messaging to these people from advertisers.
	How obvious do you have to make it?
	It's so obvious.
	It's a win for Facebook.
	It's a win for Facebook.
	And this guy is, he's almost like, glad we had to work so hard, but we got him to do it.
	We got him for equality for all 50 categories of sex.
	You actually worked on this project with Facebook, so whose idea was it, and why did it become an issue and an important move for Facebook?
	Facebook today is a reflection of who we are and the story that we want to tell the world about ourselves, and there were some users who couldn't do that.
	I don't have to tell you, you know this kind of guy, right?
	This PR guy.
	It's really, really horrible.
	Yes, a smarmy PR guy.
	A lot of them are very, they're all cut from the same cloth.
	Glad to help work with us on this issue, and Glad was happy to work with Facebook, but more importantly, we were happy for the transgender and the gender non-conforming youth who now could help the world who they are in their own words.
	So what do you say to those folks that are like, okay, this is just way too much to understand and comprehend and why can't we just keep it more simple?
	I don't think it's ridiculous to accept LGBT young people for who they are.
	I think that Facebook has really made a great step forward to telling those young people that you can be who you are on Facebook.
	That's a beautiful thing.
	We all want to be who we are, right, Rich?
	It's a beautiful thing.
	We all want to be who we are, right, Rich?
	Well, that's a beautiful thing.
	We all want to be who we are, right, Rich?
	Right?
	That's very subtle.
	I hadn't heard that the first time around.
	That's nice.
	And so this is, to me, I can't see it any other way than this is Facebook just taking advantage of free publicity, basically, and turning that into direct advertising dollars because of...
	Oh yeah, no, this is another, you're right, this is exactly right.
	This is a data point for advertisers and the NSA and whoever else, because now you've just, you've given a little bit more of yourself away because you are a, whatever these things are, transgester.
	Or whatever some of these 50 categories.
	I'd like to hear a reading of the 50 categories.
	Do you have that?
	Well, the funny thing is I went into Facebook and I wanted to try it.
	And it seems like you type in a letter and they give you suggestions.
	But I think you can do whatever you want to do.
	It seems like you can change it into anything.
	But here's the rub.
	So I went in and of course I put in heteroflexible.
	I think that'll be funny.
	And then I save it and it says...
	What does it even mean?
	Who cares?
	Heteroflexible.
	Hopefully they'll be able to send me their ads.
	I think that's what everyone should put in.
	Heteroflexible.
	And I said, put that in, but then Facebook says, oh no, you can't do that.
	You have to have two categories of people with two different gender descriptions.
	What?
	Yeah, I know.
	This is crazy.
	You cannot just have one.
	You can have two the same.
	But you have to have one for your friends, and then one for public, and one for your red circles.
	I don't know.
	I don't know how Facebook works.
	I'm afraid I'll get sucked in and I'll become a user.
	A robot.
	I don't want to get hooked on it.
	You know, John, Facebook's really not that bad.
	I think you've got the wrong impression.
	I think so, too.
	But then, as I'm researching this, I fall into, I think this is all part of it, The gender-neutral parenting movement and community.
	Oh yeah.
	Now this is pretty big.
	Oh, it's huge.
	And it's in the Bay Area.
	We get a lot of those man-on-the-street reports from our local news where this person is like, you know, I don't understand why the bullying problem is out of control because my son wears a dress.
	Yeah.
	And we think he should wear whatever he wants.
	Whatever he wants to do is fine.
	Yeah, or we want to raise our son as a boy and a girl so he won't grow up aggressive towards women.
	Yeah, there's that.
	Now, there is one, and this is literally parents exposing their children to traditional boy, traditional girl stuff and lifestyle.
	Then there's the, and I'm trying to follow, then there's the gender creative parenting, which is different.
	Which I think is okay because it's not saying no when your kid wants to play with dolls or wants to have his hair long or whatever.
	It's not saying, no, you can't do that, you're a boy.
	That I'm okay with.
	I think the name, gender creative parenting, is off base because it's just...
	It's a bit pretentious.
	Yes.
	But it seems like every one of these parents who was in the news, you know, like, raising my boy chick.
	Really?
	Ugh!
	Isn't boy chick an old term, an old Yiddish term?
	I don't know.
	I'm not familiar with that.
	Boy chick, eh?
	Boy chick.
	Boy chick, I think, is what you're thinking of.
	But they all have a blog or a book or a blog.
	But I think where all of this is headed, and this is what I'm a little worried about, this eventually, I think, is headed towards emancipation.
	And we may want to be, as parents, we may want to be careful of what's really happening because at a certain point, when it comes to gender, I think doctors already are saying, oh, mom, dad, you have to step out of the room because I'm going to talk about something here with your kid.
	And that's when the doctor will say, well, here's some condoms, but don't worry if you feel attracted to girls or same sex.
	Well, I think you might be overlooking something.
	Okay.
	Which is our basic theme on a lot of these things.
	It always boils down to it, which is taking our rights away.
	And in this case, I would say freedom of speech again.
	Because this whole sort of thing, this makes it so you're disallowed from saying, you know, your kid is going to be screwed up if you keep this up with him.
	Right.
	You're actually making him wear a dress.
	Why is he coming to school with high heels on?
	He's in the fourth grade, lady.
	Yeah.
	Oh, you're bullying me!
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Much of society, especially, and I think this is also part of the movement toward one world government and all the rest, even though it's a little wackier.
	There's always been this movement to kind of disintegrate the societal norms insofar as peer group pressure is concerned.
	And if you have all this essentially balkanization of the social norms, in other words, people just do their old nuts.
	Kids are coming in the fourth grade with tattoos on their face and they're saying they're a girl and they're bald.
	I mean, there's a million possibilities.
	And if you can't, if there's no social norms that say no, as a community, a real community, in other words, the people that live in this town can't tell you no, you can't do that with this kid.
	It is disruptive.
	And if you can't do that anymore, then the whole society falls apart because most of it is based on this sort of pressure.
	I would take it just, I think I leapfrogged this step and I took it one further.
	And I believe that the, and there was some other UN thing, children's rights, and children have to have rights, and they have to be able to sue their parents.
	We talked about this in some show.
	Yeah, and there was some legislation, it's just coming back to me now, but I believe when they were 13 or 14, maybe even 12, that they're going to start to give these children so-called rights, which makes it, you know, you've got to be careful, because then people start to tell your kids what to do against you.
	Yeah, and that is going on now to an extent.
	I mean, the kids come home from the school, which is a reason for homeschooling, and they cut these crackpot notions that are fed to them by their teacher.
	I mean, I've had it with Eric DeShill.
	I had Buzzkill Jr.
	who came home with some...
	What?
	Yeah.
	With what?
	With herpes?
	Where did you learn that?
	No, it's mostly stuff like Columbus.
	Columbus was a slaver and he's a horrible person.
	We should have indigenous day because we killed the Indians and we're horrible as a culture.
	We all stink.
	We should shoot ourselves in the head.
	The American Academy of Pediatrics has embraced the youth rights campaign and movement.
	In recent policy statements on emergency contraception and care of LGBTQ youth.
	Hey, could you people get it right?
	It's LGBTQQI. The AAP, that's the American Academy of Pediatrics, urges pediatricians to counsel, educate and support young people in the exercise of their sexual and reproductive rights.
	This is 12 and 13 year olds.
	The AAP informs its physicians that regardless of the adolescent's current intentions for sexual behavior, the pediatrician should discuss sexual safety and family planning as a matter of routine anticipatory guidance.
	The conscientious pediatrician will go by offering to supply both boys and girls with emergency contraception to have on hand in case of future need.
	And this is done without parents' consent.
	12 and 13-year-olds.
	And by the way, I handed out stuff to my daughter even before that.
	But that's my decision.
	Not some association of pediatrics as to what they're going to do.
	And I think it runs both ways.
	Parents have to take responsibility.
	And we're easy to just hand it over.
	Yeah, and there are some parents that are irresponsible and crappy, and I think that targeting them, you say, well, look at this one, is beside the point because they still have these rights since they bore the kid and raise the kid and pay for the kid's school and do whatever they have to do if they can manage.
	That's not rights, that's ownership.
	Well, this is like Sparta.
	Ideally, some people would love to take all the kids.
	You have a kid, goes right to a training camp.
	Yeah.
	He never sees the parents.
	Except maybe once a month.
	That'd be perfect.
	You put something in the newsletter which relates to this.
	By the way, big kudos.
	Our friend who does the newsletter for the spin class place, she reads our newsletters.
	Because she does a newsletter and she's a big fan of your newsletter.
	And she thought the cat stroking the dolphin was just about the best thing she'd ever seen.
	She's like, that was almost no fair.
	She says, how can you top that?
	There's nothing better than that.
	Hey, I spend a lot of time getting these images.
	I know.
	Good work.
	Here's Ellen Page.
	She's an actor.
	And she chose the human rights campaign to out herself.
	And I didn't even know who Ellen Page was until I saw the newsletter and then I went looking for her.
	I'm like, oh, okay, I know who she is.
	So I have this minute and a half of her coming out.
	Is that relevant to play in regards to what you wrote about?
	I don't know.
	Play it and we'll find out.
	If we took just five minutes to recognize each other's beauty instead of attacking each other for our differences...
	That's not hard.
	It's really an easier and better way to live.
	And this is exactly not what HRC and HRW are doing.
	They are not taking five minutes to look at the beauty and the rainbows and the unicorns, which I'm all for.
	Instead, they are yelling, Putin hates gays!
	Putin hates gays!
	It's not constructive.
	It's just not.
	It's not a constructive thing.
	Who says it's supposed to be?
	She just said it!
	Well, she's an idiot.
	She's there on behalf of Human Rights Campaign.
	Who are the people yelling this?
	Yes, I know, but she's the counterbalance.
	It's like maybe you won't notice that they're doing what you just described.
	Oh, yeah.
	And they're all just a bunch of good people.
	This is a great operation.
	It saves lives.
	Then again, it can be the hardest thing.
	Because loving other people starts with loving ourselves and accepting ourselves.
	And I know many of you have struggled with this.
	And I draw upon your strength and your support in ways that you will never know.
	And I am here today because I am gay.
	And because...
	Woo!
	Woo!
	Now, I do want to say, with 50 categories on Facebook, with big applause when you're outing yourself, how come when I say I'm bi-curious, which is a category on Backpage, it's a category on Craigslist, how come I get no one's applauding for me?
	You get booed.
	I get shouted down.
	You get shouted down.
	Well, you're not Ellen Page.
	You're not a cutie.
	Yeah, but that's horrible.
	By the way, I've heard her before.
	She is so nervous.
	Yeah, she's very nervous.
	I mean, she is extremely nervous.
	This may have been a big deal.
	I mean, I can totally understand.
	I'm sure it was.
	I mean, a lot of people...
	You know, the funny thing is, if you do a lot of public speaking...
	Especially if you've never really been nervous in front of a big crowd, you will find a moment, someplace in your career of talking to people, talking to the public, where you actually get nervous.
	It happened to me once, and it's extremely annoying.
	I got nervous.
	The only time I've ever gotten nervous, talking in front of the city council.
	Really?
	Those boneheads?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I know.
	That's the joke of it.
	That's funny.
	Yeah.
	Not sure why.
	Anyway, go on.
	Yeah, of course.
	I've had it...
	I think I had it once with...
	Maybe it was Mick Jagger or something.
	I was interviewing someone and all of a sudden I just fucking lost it.
	Which had never happened to me before.
	I was like...
	Maybe it was Quincy Jones, but I was drinking then.
	I don't know.
	Anyway, I guess the point that I'm saying here is there's a matrix of this NGO crap that is pulled all around us, and I appreciate that you kind of broke your embargo, although I think you held to the letter.
	You didn't write anything up, but told us about this.
	We need to use it to our own benefit.
	Well, no, I didn't break an embargo.
	This was an oral agreement, A, and it was about writing about it.
	Specifically, I can't report on it.
	But here's the proviso that went in there.
	It says, you can't write about it.
	You can't talk about this.
	This is a private event, but you can tweet about it.
	Right.
	So if I can tweet about it, this means social media is open game, and this is social media, what we're doing.
	But regardless of how we break this news, the two things are, one, we need to take advantage of this for ourselves, and we really need to use that, and I am now officially crowning us with the title of NGO. And we need to be very, very vigilant and continuously look into all of these operations that we have been trained to accept as the good guys.
	Because they're just not.
	And even the good guys who have these good intentions are really just misusing their causes to further political agenda.
	Yeah, no, in fact, this is what I claimed on the last show.
	Looking at Edelman's complete list, he first stumbled on this the first time he did the truth survey and started to notice it as a major trend, and that was 14 years ago.
	So the governments themselves...
	Yes, and he made a billion dollars doing it.
	They looked at...
	Guys like this, this character...
	Is a hot shot.
	And he has one of the major public relations operations in the world.
	And when he says something like that, people take notice, which is, I think, the reason they want to keep it as quiet as they can.
	They take notice and literally take advantage of it.
	If everyone's trusting the NGOs, let's just become an NGO. And as you just did.
	Well, if nobody likes that we're podcasters, well, let's just become an NGO, which we can.
	Yes.
	The podcast is an NGO. It's a non-governmental organization.
	Yes, we are an NGO by subscription.
	Subscribe to my NGO on iTunes.
	Yes.
	We're an NGO, and there is no rule that says an NGO has to be a non-profit charitable organization.
	Let's check out the Book of Knowledge.
	Let's just see.
	The Book of Knowledge.
	Governmental organization.
	I don't think you have to be a non-profit.
	I don't think you have to have some kind of certificate.
	Non-governmental...
	Oh, there's no such thing.
	This is like being a reporter.
	You don't need to have a...
	You don't need yet.
	You don't need a license.
	Ah, hold on.
	Yeah, this is true.
	I think I just, as it's opening up, and for some reason everything's going slow today.
	Here, listen to this.
	The term non-governmental organization, NGO, normally, which means not always, refers to organizations that are neither a part of a government nor conventional for-profit business.
	That's us.
	Yeah, we're highly unconventional.
	Usually set up by ordinary citizens.
	That's us.
	Two for two.
	NGOs may be funded by governments, foundations, or businesses.
	Well, we don't get any.
	We'll get some business support.
	Some avoid formal funding altogether and are run primarily by volunteers.
	NGOs are a highly diverse group of organizations engaged with a wide range of activities and take different forms in different parts of the world.
	Some may have charitable status, while others may be registered for tax exemption based on recognition or social purposes.
	Other may be fronts for political, religious, or other interest groups.
	Well, that's us.
	We're a front for our rent.
	Yeah, that's what we are.
	The number of NGOs operating in the United States estimated 1.5 million NGOs.
	1.5 million?
	And that's not non-profits.
	That's 1.5 million NGOs.
	Yeah.
	That's just outrageous.
	And that doesn't include Russia, which has 277,000, it says, and those are probably mostly American.
	Those are American.
	Now have to be registered as foreign agents.
	Look at India.
	How are they doing?
	3.3 million NGOs.
	How's that working out?
	There's just one NGO per 400 Indians.
	That should be our ratio.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so I think we fit the mold.
	Is there any monitoring and control?
	Wait, there's some organization.
	Hold on.
	Kofi Annan...
	I just need to know if we have to register anywhere.
	Legal form...
	Ah, legal status.
	Legal form of NGOs...
	Well, hold on a second.
	Now that I think about this, and I think we discussed this on a show about a year and a half ago...
	The United Nations has some sort of list of official NGOs that somehow promote whatever.
	And I believe, at least I tried, and maybe you did, to fill out the forms necessary to be listing the show as one of their approved operations.
	But it was so confusing, I think we gave up on it and then stopped talking about it.
	Well, so here the legal status.
	Legal form of NGOs is diverse and depends upon homegrown variations in each country's laws and practice.
	However, four main family groups of NGOs can be found worldwide.
	Unincorporated and Voluntary Association.
	I think that's us.
	We're not incorporated.
	And we're Voluntary Association.
	Trusts, charities, and foundations.
	Companies not just for profit.
	Oh, hello.
	It's not just for profit.
	That's us.
	We're not just for profit.
	Exactly.
	We're for fun, comedic value.
	We're here to serve the public needs for real information.
	Yes.
	Value for value.
	Entities formed or registered under special NGO or non-profit laws.
	Okay, we're not in that.
	All right.
	We should probably look into that again, see if there's a list we can get on.
	Someone can certainly get us on a list.
	That's valid.
	I think we have a better shot now than we did before.
	Certainly there's some kind of seal or stamp of approval or ribbon or some banner we can put on our website that makes us official.
	Don't you think?
	There's got to be something.
	That'll pack them in.
	That'll pack them in.
	Oh, they're official so I can listen to their show now!
	Well, John, thank you for your courage.
	And in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
	And in the morning to you, Adam Curry.
	In the morning, all the ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and knights out there.
	And to our artists, thank you very much for all of the wonderful work that you provide us with at noagendaartgenerator.com.
	Episode 5, 9, or 2, Martin J.J. back.
	And we look forward to seeing what happens today.
	And we always appreciate the work that our artists do for our album art.
	Can I... Before you...
	It's finished in the morning, but I do have to say something about the art.
	In the morning, the chat room people.
	Yeah, I've been so nice today.
	This is my favorite.
	When someone just types a whole line of Z's, like I guess they're bored or something about what we're talking about.
	Oh, Z's.
	Yeah.
	You guys bore me.
	Yeah, I'm so bored.
	Look at your life, loser.
	You're sitting there listening to a podcast.
	I want to mention something about Martin J.J. and the art.
	Yeah.
	Just to the other artists.
	I mentioned this about three or four months ago.
	I'll mention it again.
	I went back and looked at old art because I was digging up something for the newsletter, and I noticed that years ago, Martin J.J. was constantly sending stuff in.
	And I don't think we picked his stuff for two years because he was missing it.
	He's just a little thing there, a little bit there.
	It wasn't quite as funny as he could.
	He wasn't nailing it.
	And so this is the thing that I would...
	I'm just saying this because I don't want to see artists discouraged because we don't pick their art.
	So what you're saying is keep going at it?
	Atta boy?
	Is that your message?
	Yeah, I don't know what I'm saying.
	I have no idea what I'm talking about.
	Keep trying and one day the gods of no agenda, the NGO, might choose you.
	We might bestow you with the honor.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Yeah, pretty much.
	So the way this program works, and the only reason why we can even bring up the topic of NGOs, because we're not afraid.
	We don't have to pay our rent from the NGOs who we have to go and be nice to to get a handout.
	We don't have to do any of that.
	We don't have to be nice to advertisers.
	All we have to do is satisfy the people who actually produce this program.
	They are our producers.
	And they support us with all kinds of information and also financially.
	And the top donors for each episode, they're our executive and associate executive producers.
	And a good list today to kick us off into the new week.
	That's your cue.
	And I do want to mention, we also have this new category called Special Executive Producer just for Show 600.
	Yes.
	And we do have, for just a random number, I guess, three people showed up today.
	Wow.
	Taking that honor.
	Sir David Foley, $600.33.
	He's in Los Gatos.
	We know him.
	What was his name?
	What's his name?
	What's his name of his website?
	4kspecial.com.
	Use NA for a discount.
	But I believe now Sir David Foley is the...
	Is he a Grand Duke now?
	No, no.
	He's the Archduke.
	He's still Archduke of Silicon Valley.
	He's up there, but he's not.
	Grand Duke is...
	He's getting there.
	It's hard.
	In the morning, John and Adam, sorry for the gap in supporting your courage.
	Please find my Club 600 membership payment and 33 cents for good measure.
	Nice, and you'll get a special...
	Sir Hank in Kew Gardens, New York, $600.
	Thank you for your hard work.
	Please give a karma shot for you and everyone out there to keep hitting people in the mouth.
	You've got karma.
	Sir Howard Kraut, Longmont, Colorado.
	I have it.
	I have it.
	I have the note.
	Oh, you have the note.
	I couldn't find the note.
	It was from him and his brother.
	It's kind of funny, because I forward the note to Eric, and then he puts in the spreadsheet, you got an email about it.
	Yeah, that's why I forwarded it to you.
	Anyway, so I found it.
	He's not going to type all that crap in.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Control C, Control V. Oh, my hand hurts.
	Whatever, just read the note.
	Hi, everyone.
	The Kraut brothers look forward to producing show 5, 9, or 2, and the 600th edition of the greatest podcast in the universe.
	We thought the Victoria Nuland segment was great.
	Fantastic analysis, Mr.
	Dvorak.
	Moreover, Adam...
	You're spot on with your assessment of Facebook.
	Keep it up.
	Today's donation makes the Kraut brothers a night.
	We'd like to be known collectively as the night of 89th and Bluegrass.
	Of course, no Kraut brothers producership would be complete without Adam's patented shout out to Eleanor.
	I'm not quite sure what that patented shout out is.
	Yeah, your patented shout out, you know.
	No.
	No.
	Okay.
	By the way, keep thinking about a real-time donation mechanism for those who listen to the live feed.
	That's Paul and Howard Kraut, a couple of Jews from FEMA Regions 2 and 8.
	Beautiful.
	And they'll be knighted later on today.
	I like the idea of real-time donations.
	I think you just cut people off while they're listening to the live feed.
	Or if they say something dumb in the chat room, just cut them off and charge them to get back in.
	That's what Leo does.
	If he doesn't charge them to get back in, that's a twist that would be cool.
	It's going to cost you five bucks.
	Yeah, you can get an unblock.
	Five?
	You cheap bastard.
	Hey, I had to pay five bucks to get back in.
	Bounce.
	Nah, it's going to cost you ten.
	We really appreciate the special producership from the Kraut brothers.
	Thank you very much, gentlemen.
	And we'll look forward to knighting you later today.
	Grant Siner, C-Y-N-O-R, $592 from Leawood, Kansas.
	He'll be an executive producer.
	This is my return as producer after calling out Helmut Head and Fisherman as complete douchebags on show 550.
	Helmet Head has stepped up and de-douched himself.
	So that just leaves Fisherman as the remaining supreme freeloading commander of the douchebagdom.
	Yeah, I think we should douchebag him, don't you?
	Of course, I'm happy to.
	Douchebag!
	I think, I guess to this dude, the model is value for free.
	I think the only thing left to do is to appeal to the D-bag's wife.
	I encourage everyone to like her Hagen Hill photography page on Facebook.
	Of course.
	At last, check she has a paltry 234 likes.
	Then maybe the cheap D-bag will pony up under a new value for my wife's value model.
	Lastly, this puts me past the coveted knighthood dollar amount.
	Please shake a rain stick for me.
	We should shake the rain stick.
	Well, hold on.
	Where does he want to be?
	Kansas City?
	You've got to point it the right way.
	Because we've been getting a little bit of flack from the UK. I still need some here.
	Okay, I'm going to do Kansas City.
	Perfect.
	Now, I don't think Grant does not seem to be on the list.
	In fact, neither do the Kraut brothers, interestingly enough.
	Okay, we'll put them on the list.
	Yep.
	Drago Oriato, 592 Waltham Cross, Hertfordshire.
	My name is Diego, and I have been a cheap bastard.
	Please de-douche me and give me some relocation karma as I'll be moving from Gitmo Nation East to FEMA Region 2, New Jersey.
	You guys are awesome.
	Hold on a second.
	That's the opening of a movie if I've ever seen one.
	Hello, my name is Diego, and I have been a cheap bastard.
	Don't you think that's a great opening for a movie?
	That would be perfect.
	Tarantino.
	You've been de-douched.
	You've got karma.
	There you go.
	De-douched.
	You've got Tarantino written all over it.
	It does.
	I agree.
	Aaron Baer in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania.
	No coincidence.
	Spelled differently.
	$500.
	Hey, JCD, here's a famous movie line for you.
	You, Sal, put some cheese on that motherfucking man.
	I don't know.
	I have no idea what that movie's from.
	It's something to do with cheese and a burger.
	Growing up in public is not easy, homie.
	Take it easy.
	Oh, he's talking to you.
	Hey!
	Growing up in public is not easy, homie.
	Take it easy on the old boy JCD and don't be so mean.
	By the way, the segue into episode 590's second donation karma thing was flawless.
	Okay.
	I agree with that.
	Stop it.
	Tim Wachinski in Elkins, West Virginia.
	33333.
	ITM. Oh, no, I'm sorry.
	No, sorry.
	That's Dear John, just sharing the love of my recent signing bonus.
	He got a signing bonus.
	Very nice.
	Congratulations, Tim.
	That's great.
	Blue Jewels, $333 from Arlington, Virginia, just says ITM. That's it.
	He's in Arlington.
	Hello.
	Well, why would he say more?
	I would have to agree with that.
	Yes.
	And actually, if you knew the...
	I decided to protect him, so I'm not telling the whole story about anything.
	Good.
	I'll tell you later.
	All right.
	I'm not trying to keep it from anyone.
	Okay, I'll tell you.
	He sent this in in an envelope with the return address of the Electronic Frontier Foundation in San Francisco.
	Okay.
	So I don't know.
	There's something fishy about it.
	Sir Mark, Baron of Tokyo.
	Mark!
	Mark!
	Yeah!
	$262.18.
	Okay, that's $10.
	You've got $10 for every mile he'll be running in the Tokyo Marathon next Sunday, 23rd of February.
	So he's running a 26-mile marathon.
	And I have WW No Agenda show emblazoned across my Lycra.
	It's like Carrie Shun, who's disappeared from our listenership, used to put it across her butt.
	Yep.
	So other producers should look at me along the way.
	So anyone in Tokyo, go watch the race and watch for the guy running around with a No Agenda show on his back.
	Maybe his front.
	While I'm not out promoting No Agenda, I will be raising money for Home for All that we're building in Soma City, a few miles from the exclusion zone in Fukushima.
	Things are still pretty tough there, and kids cannot play outside, so Dame Astrid and I are designing an indoor park.
	Check out my Indiegogo campaign for more deets.
	Deets.
	Just do a search for Tokyo on the Indiegogo site and I will pop up.
	If you support my campaign, you'll be able to see me run live from RunKeeper account, the RunKeeper account, route photos, and heart size.
	Heart rate.
	Oh, sorry, heart rate.
	It's got a big heart.
	At least the NSA and my health insurance company will know where I am.
	I've been training for the last six months and lost almost 20 kilograms in the process.
	Wow!
	20 kilograms?
	That's pretty good, Mark.
	That's 45, 50 pounds.
	Yeah.
	That's a whole person.
	He wasn't a fat guy, was he?
	No, he was British.
	Yeah, well.
	Have almost run the length of Japan.
	No agenda's been with me all the way.
	You have great companions, training companions.
	Far better than those trendy spinning trainers.
	The show just gets better and better.
	Thanks from Tokyo, Sir Mark.
	So for your edification, it looks like Miss Mickey and I will be going to Tokyo in May.
	Ms.
	Mickey has been offered a show.
	And our barons over there in Tokyo are going to hook us up.
	I think I'm going somewhere in March.
	To Tokyo?
	Detroit.
	I'm going to Detroit.
	Finally, I got a speaking thing in Detroit, so I'm going to go to Detroit.
	I'll have better pictures than you have.
	Why?
	I'm going to go up to Fukushima.
	I'm going to get radiated.
	I'm going to take a Geiger counter.
	I'm going to take a Geiger counter and take videos.
	Look!
	Oh my God, it's clicking!
	You should.
	This is going viral, baby.
	You're dying on the West Coast.
	Thank you very much, Sir Mark.
	Highly appreciate.
	And not just the donation, but also what you're doing for the kids and the home for all.
	Very nice.
	Oh, that was it.
	That was the last one.
	Yeah, that was closed our associate executive producer segment and executive producer segment and the special executive producer segment for show 592.
	Don't forget, we have another show coming up on Thursday.
	Go to Dvorak.org slash NA. Dvorak.org slash NA. And as always, these credits are good where credits are accepted.
	And remember, our formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Water. Order.
	Shut up, slay.
	Shut up, Steve.
	Yay.
	Apparently Eric is selling those 33 bags and he's selling quite a few of them.
	Oh, they're on the website?
	On the NOA generation?
	Yes.
	I'm surprised he hasn't sent some samples out to us.
	He did ask, and he said, do you want some?
	I said, yeah, just give me a couple.
	I don't know.
	You sell them.
	I'm happy to have a few.
	I think they'd be cool to give out.
	Yeah, and then he came back and said, well, the post office rejected your address.
	He had my address from a year ago.
	Weird.
	Weird.
	So I have not actually received my bags yet.
	No.
	I'm looking forward to it.
	I did receive yet another healthy surprise box.
	I didn't.
	Oh.
	And that's also going...
	This will be the last one because I keep telling Joe to email me because that's going to the old address and now the post office won't afford it anymore.
	But in there I had, and maybe you had this in a previous box, the Freshly Wild Kale Joy...
	Ugh.
	With Must Eat Mesquite.
	And it's almost like the Lord is messing with me, because then NPR has some deal with TED, which I think ruins both brands, quite honestly.
	TED.NPR.org.
	Really?
	TED.NPR.org?
	This is news to me.
	Oh, yeah.
	They have this whole show, a whole TED show.
	Where they're playing little snippets including Dr.
	Terry Walls.
	I start with greens because they're...
	Greens.
	By the way, can we stop?
	This is almost as bad as veggies.
	Greens.
	Do you find greens to universally mean the same thing?
	I hate veggies.
	I like vegetables, but I hate the term veggies.
	It's creepy.
	Yeah, but greens?
	That's okay.
	Greens.
	They got some greens.
	It sounds like a pill.
	Hey, you got some greens?
	Yeah, I got some greens.
	I got some blues.
	I got some reds.
	I got some crosstops.
	Start with greens because they are rich in B vitamins, vitamins A, C, K, and minerals.
	And those are two types of kale.
	Kale has the most nutrition per calorie.
	The most nutrition per calorie, John.
	That's got to be...
	What does that even mean?
	I don't know.
	Of any plant.
	Of any plant.
	I find that hard to believe, by the way.
	So do I, but it's on TED. It's an NGO. It's a brassica.
	It's a cabbage.
	It's a form of cabbage.
	By the way, TED is kind of...
	They have NGO status as well, somehow.
	You know what I mean?
	I'm not quite sure how they did it, because they're very commercial, but they have some kind of...
	That's right.
	Ted, NPR, it's beautiful.
	There are two types of kale.
	Kale has the most nutrition per calorie of any plant.
	The B vitamins will protect your brain cells and your mitochondria.
	Vitamins A and C support your immune cells.
	Vitamin K keeps your blood vessels and bones healthy.
	And minerals are cofactors for hundreds of different enzymes in your body.
	Why is she shouting?
	Well, because she's programming you.
	No.
	Have more kale.
	Now, when I heard that, not eat more kale, but have more kale.
	I felt it was time for this.
	So, have more kale.
	I think that's working well.
	So you went to the couples thing.
	And then you came back early.
	And I made this.
	And you felt the obligation to produce a clip.
	I thought it worked.
	I like this.
	It's just okay.
	You guys are amazing.
	Exactly.
	All right, well, I'm going to disprove that thesis.
	That we're amazing or kale is the most nutritious plant of all?
	That kale is number one on the list.
	You know, I pointed this out before.
	I never really went into it in great depth, but this whole thing started in England with one public relations company that was hired by some kale growers who apparently couldn't sell this stuff, usually because it's gosh awful.
	you can make it edible, but you have to actually go out of your way.
	It's not like something that's naturally tasty.
	If you beat it up and cook it in bacon fat and you put a lot of nuts in it, and then you really – first you've got to parboil it to beat it up so you can actually chew it.
	Then you cook it in bacon fat and you get this bacon-y, greasy gob of goo.
	Or fry it, deep fat fry it so it's like a crunchy potato chip.
	You can choke it down.
	So these guys in England have done everything they can to promote kale as this bogus superfood, and that's the word they used, and it's taken off.
	I mean, this is what public relations does.
	It says it right here on this Kale Joy, Freshly Wild Superfoods is the name of the company.
	We need to be the no agenda, non-governmental organization, super, just be a superfood.
	I think we can be a superfood.
	Superfood for the brain.
	We are the no agenda, non-governmental, 100% natural, antioxidant rich, omega 3 and 4, vegan, gluten free, dairy free, non-GMO superfood podcast with no trans fats.
	It's a mouthful.
	Okay, so the kale tastes like crap, is what you're trying to say.
	Yeah, it's really bad.
	It's just horrible.
	No, I have not had...
	I've cooked it once.
	I have a lot of recipes I'm accumulating, and I want to remind people, if they have a recipe for kale that's a little offbeat, to put the subject line kale and send me an email with it, with the recipe.
	I don't want just a copy of something from food.com.
	John at Dvorak.org.
	It's not that hard to find my email.
	And I'll put a little No Agenda book together at some point when I have enough of these recipes.
	I should be able to cut and paste something pretty quickly.
	But most of these recipes are the same.
	You parboil the kale five minutes so you can beat it up a little bit.
	Take all the stringy stems and stuff out.
	And then you cook it in bacon fat.
	And with bacon chips in there, maybe throw in some walnuts and then choke it down while it's still warm.
	That's what she said.
	Salt and pepper.
	Alright, onward, onward, onward.
	Got an interesting email from one of our producers who was very familiar with the drone campaign.
	This relates to the $250 million WordPress blog from Pierre Drive My Car and Grand Green World Don't Raff and Laura Poitras.
	Oh, by the way, before I even mention that, I got a nice little note that James and Patricia Poitras Donated $20 million to the Institute for Brain Research at MIT a couple years back.
	I didn't know that Laura Poitras came from money.
	If you can throw money at just a research operation to the tune of $20 million, that means you've got a lot of money.
	And it's family money.
	It's from his parents.
	Oh yeah, she's loaded.
	She's a rich girl.
	Yes, she is.
	But what's interesting...
	After hearing Bob, we talked with Pat and over at dinner, and we realized we could help make this happen faster than they'd hoped.
	The Portis have committed $20 million to support research on major depression, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, and other psychiatric disorders at the center.
	And they say one of the reasons is that we were happy to do this is one of our own daughters was diagnosed with bipolar disease.
	Now, they don't say which one.
	Oh, really?
	Uh-huh.
	Interesting, huh?
	Yeah.
	I wonder if it's Laura.
	It could be.
	It could be.
	You know, the way she acts.
	I mean, that would explain a lot of the hassle she goes through when she comes across the border.
	You're pretty on the verge of having a nervous breakdown flying overseas anyway.
	Yeah.
	And you come in, you're a little uptight, the guy asks you a question, and you...
	What?
	What?
	I'm not doing anything.
	What?
	What?
	Or, you know, she snaps at him.
	If you snap at one of these guys with a snide comment, something that a bipolar person might do, you know, just as some mean sort of...
	Boy, you're in lockup for hours.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's not really lock-up, you know, closet or a room.
	So anyway, this huge, well-funded venture cranks out one bullcrap drone story.
	Let me just read what our producer Matt says.
	Hey, you know, switching SIM cards does make sense, but not with drones.
	When I was in Afghanistan, high-level targets would give their sat phones to low-level idiots.
	The idiot would be given a message to read over the phone so they would be targeted and not the high-level guy.
	That makes sense to me, too, by the way.
	Since 2004, the U.S. is using newer technology that allows them to clone captured SIM cards.
	Often a group of suspects would be stopped and blindfolded.
	All the phones would be taken, SIM cards cloned, then returned to the people.
	Originally it would take hours to triangulate a person, then it would only give you a general area.
	With the newer stuff, the clone sims, it took 15 to 20 minutes to pinpoint a specific building.
	They caught on to this and would give their sim cards to nobodies or idiots so they would be thrown off.
	This switch of sim cards only makes sense when there are boots on the ground to throw them off.
	If they capture a nobody, then they will release them.
	Switching SIM cards doesn't make any sense if they're being droned.
	They would just switch the SIM cards again.
	Matt says this is total bullcrap.
	And it's also not the way it works.
	There is real boots on the ground for a lot of these dronings.
	But as I was thinking about this and the Poitras thing, and really our conversation, and I think I misunderstood you on Thursday's show, where we were just in completely different vibes about what this thing is, and I think you were looking at it from a journalistic standpoint of, this is what you come up with.
	I think that maybe that's...
	Am I categorizing that right?
	Where you just saw this blog and went, what?
	Well, that's what I did.
	I don't know what you were talking about.
	Well, what I was talking about is, you know, what is...
	So there's the journalistic side, where I think a lot of journalists, yourself included, you're more in the milieu of writers and journalists than I am.
	I mean, I didn't get the invite to Edelman and told to not write about it.
	You know, I don't hang out with John Markoff.
	Okay.
	So I think you're more in that milieu.
	And I think there's a lot of...
	It's like poets.
	You know, you sit around grousing about the other guy.
	Hey, look at these assholes.
	That's what they came up with.
	Can I be a little right on that?
	There's an element of that.
	There's an element of it.
	Okay.
	Well, it's a milieu.
	Like you said, it's exactly what it is.
	So I'm looking at this Greenwald thing.
	And it hit me the other day.
	He is just a new...
	Did you come up with a new name for him?
	Did you say Greenball?
	Yes.
	Greenball.
	Glenn Greenball.
	Glenn Greenball.
	He is just a new cog in the wheel of the military-industrial complex.
	And I say this because if you look at...
	The intelligence community, there's about 16 different agencies.
	And we've probably identified, maybe 12 of them I think we can identify.
	But they're right down to our friend's special, our friend's girlfriend's special area in the State Department.
	I mean, there's all these little, everybody's got an intelligence unit, right?
	Yep.
	Now if you look at it, all but one of them are related to, one way or the other, the Pentagon or the Department of Defense.
	Only one of them is a civilian agency, and that's the CIA. Exactly.
	So they really are outsiders.
	We have no idea what their budget is.
	They, of course, really do run the wet operations.
	They do kill people.
	They're doing the real work.
	And I think what happened...
	Is that we started this military-industrial complex in the 60s, is really when we were warned about it.
	And I believe that what we're looking at right now, including Glenn Greenwald, is just this whole thing is spinning apart because...
	We're withdrawing from portions of the Middle East, so what do we have to do?
	It's like $60 or $70 or $80 billion a year at least that goes around with all the contractors.
	Edward Snowden did not work for the NSA. He worked for Booz Allen Hamilton.
	And those guys have $6, $7, $8 billion worth of contract by themselves.
	So this is a huge thing that has to keep going, and the only way to keep this going, and of course we point this out all the time on the show, the only way to keep this going is to keep people afraid, now the terror is coming to the homeland, you know, be very worried about all of this.
	And I found some numbers and I found it in...
	Go ahead.
	Before you get those numbers, I want to throw something in what you just said.
	Just for the listeners, as an aside, the people who promote this idea that you should just be sitting in your house watching television, afraid of your own shadow, need to be...
	When you see somebody doing that to you, and if they're a politician or anything else, you should either call them on it or vote them out of office.
	These people are evil.
	Anyway, go on.
	Well, I did something that we tend to do from time to time, and in fact I did that at the start of the show, but I went back and I listened to the relevant portion of Eisenhower's farewell speech, where he specifically talks about the military-industrial complex and warns us for it.
	And there were a couple things, and it's only a minute and 50 seconds.
	You know, I've cut down all the bits and pieces, and this is kind of nice.
	It's a dramatized version, John.
	There's a little bit of music in there.
	I think we should listen again to what he actually told us and what he actually said, and look at some of the numbers that he's talking about in 1961.
	Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States.
	Good evening, my fellow Americans.
	We now stand ten years past the midpoint of a century that has witnessed four major wars among great nations.
	I love the little piano bit.
	It makes it more dramatic.
	I'll see what comes out.
	The latest of our world conflicts.
	The United States had no armaments industry.
	American makers of plowshares could.
	Now, I had to look this up.
	I was like, what the heck is the president talking about?
	Plowshares and swords.
	Swords to plowshares is a term used, apparently, before I was born.
	It's the concept in which military weapons or technologies are converted to peaceful civilian applications.
	And what Eisenhower says in this speech, and this is a televised speech, and he's saying, be careful, people.
	The people, the American plowshares, so this is our civilian industry, can actually reverse the process and start to make swords.
	Which, of course, is exactly what happened.
	All of our aircraft, our vehicle industry, our weapons industry, we were just making little shotguns and cars to tootle around in and planes to fly.
	And now it's bombs and fighters and tanks.
	So yes, he was correct in his assumption.
	And before this, he said we had never had this in the United States.
	But we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense.
	We have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions.
	Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment.
	Three and a half million men and women in 1961.
	I got the 1960 census.
	At that time, there were 179,323,175 people in America.
	Right, roughly half the population we have today.
	So, I don't know if it's fair to do this, but can we then say that by today's numbers that would be 7 million people in total?
	Yeah, I think that would be fair.
	And I would wager it's a lot higher than that right now.
	Oh, I thought you had the number.
	I don't have that number!
	I bet you it's more...
	I don't know what it would be, but it's not seven.
	Well, why don't you look that up?
	I don't have any way of looking that up.
	Thank you.
	Oh, yes, I can.
	Let me give it a shot.
	You try it.
	You try it.
	I'll give it a shot.
	Hold on.
	I'm going to rewind just a little bit.
	He says some more interesting stuff here.
	Yeah, keep going.
	Three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment.
	Now this conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience.
	The total influence, economic, political, even spiritual, is felt in every city, every state house, every office of the federal government.
	We recognize the imperative need for this development, yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications.
	Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved.
	So is the very structure of our society.
	In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex.
	The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
	We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes.
	We should take nothing for granted.
	Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals.
	So that security and liberty may prosper together.
	Now, I didn't know that he had said, so that security and liberty may prosper together.
	Because that is pretty much the only piece from this entire speech which is left over and is continuously abused by politicians saying, we need to find the balance.
	Between security and liberty, which, of course, the President recently took to a new extreme by saying security and your freedom.
	Did he say your freedom or your liberty?
	Liberty, not even liberty, just liberty.
	Your liberty.
	Liberty, yeah.
	But we are there.
	This has now happened.
	And I think that it's good to revisit from time to time This is now, what is it, 40 years later?
	What are we, 50 years later?
	Where are we?
	Yeah, 50 years later, here we are.
	Well, the number appears to be about the extrapolation.
	What, 7 million?
	6, actually.
	No, that can't be.
	That makes no sense.
	We have 2 million people with classified status alone.
	This is specifically anything hooked directly to the Defense Department and its industries.
	Must be a lot more robots.
	Well, I think they're taking a lot more money at the top.
	I don't know.
	After the war, World War II, I think they're pretty much fully staffed.
	I don't know.
	I'm just telling you, that's the only number I can come up with.
	I can keep digging.
	I'm not going to do it for today.
	No, no, no.
	It's okay.
	I have a couple of things.
	I want you to listen to something.
	I want you to listen to something, and tell me what you hear within this clip.
	The clip is called Listen Carefully.
	This is somebody describing a skeleton run on the Olympics.
	He's right here in the uphill section!
	At the next speech, looks at something close to 80 miles per hour!
	He's three-tenths up!
	It's looking good!
	I don't think I could hear where you're You didn't hear any of this?
	Very, very difficult.
	I clipped it down.
	Very difficult to hear.
	Yeah, it's hard to hear, but I'm telling you, there's something in here.
	Now, play How Did This Even Happen, Flub, and see if this is the clip.
	Unfortunately, I mislabeled this one, which is just the part that I'm trying to get you to listen to.
	Can you go in Toronto?
	No, not that one.
	No, try Weird Flub.
	Taxi drivers in France may have won their first...
	No, that's not it either.
	Damn it!
	I have something.
	How about Zoom 0037?
	No, that can't be it either.
	Zoom, I think, is the social media report about the Olympics.
	Oh, here it is.
	Selection, normalized, and boosted.
	This is the same thing I'm trying to get you to listen to off this clip.
	It's looking good!
	It's looking good?
	You don't hear him say fucking?
	No.
	You're looking good.
	It's looking good!
	We have played this to the family and everybody hears the F. Really?
	Really?
	I can't hear that.
	Let me listen again.
	You think?
	It's looking good!
	Interesting.
	Let's listen one more time.
	Yeah, I'm hearing it.
	They lap it up.
	Let's do it.
	Let's go.
	Bullshit.
	Fuck off.
	Show me your tits.
	Yeah, I heard it.
	Okay, very funny.
	So I'm watching the Olympics.
	I never would have played that unless you brought this clip up.
	Yeah, that's good.
	I'll try to dig up some stuff like that on you.
	So let's go with...
	Here's how the Olympics boiled down.
	Play Zoom 37.
	Hey Meredith, you know those inappropriate selfies you've been sending me lately?
	We're talking about something different altogether here.
	The selfie is the thing at the Winter Games.
	The Sochi selfie, yes, it has its own name, popping up all over social media.
	Here are a couple of them.
	Do you know the Legion athletes going to use their heads and put them together to wish a happy Valentine's Day?
	How about American slopestyle skier Nick Gepper making swift work of his bronze medal fame, tweeting a valentine to, yes, Taylor Swift.
	On Instagram, Team USA rider Jamie Anderson won gold this week in slopestyle, but first she tore up a little fresh powder with some of her friends.
	And American alpine skier Julia Mancuso lit up Instagram with this cool kind of artistic...
	Why are you hurting me with this?
	Yes, indeed.
	Stick twist.
	Keep playing.
	On the opening ceremony.
	A look at the medal count shows host nation Russia is in the lead with the United States and the Netherlands not far behind Germany and Norway also in the mix.
	But, you ask, who's winning the social conversation around these winter games?
	I'm asking!
	The social conversation?
	But wait, Adam, you're asking who's winning the social...
	I'm not asking this.
	Why does this guy assume that I give a crap?
	I'm very interested in who's winning the social conversation as a digital prophet.
	But you ask, who's winning the social conversation?
	No, no, this is...
	I know who's asking this.
	The advertisers.
	They're saying, hey, who's winning the social conversation?
	Because I want to advertise there.
	This guy's talking to the advertisers.
	Ask...
	Who's winning the social conversation around these winter games?
	Well, Facebook tells us the U.S. is clearly in the lead with posts, likes, and updates.
	Topic number one is figure skating.
	The United States, though, if you look at the map, does have some pretty decent competition.
	From Great Britain and from Canada, Great Britain's topic of choice is snowboarding.
	But the big surprise, as you look here, is that the Philippines ranks sixth in Olympic Facebook conversation.
	The Philippines' bigger skater Michael Martinez is the country's first ever Winter Olympian, and no surprise, it's his sport that is topic number one.
	Really, this was completely unnecessary.
	This is on NBC. This is a major feature.
	This is dumb.
	Yeah, well, place the part two of it to see how dumb it really is.
	Well, what is, how do you, oh, there's a second part.
	So a week of competition and billions of kilobytes of online chatter.
	We were wondering who.
	Billions of kilobytes of online chatter.
	Yeah.
	Hold on a second.
	I've got to write that down.
	I've got billions of kilobytes of online chatter for you, baby, right here in my pants.
	...gain the most traction on the web.
	Well, Yahoo looked at the athletes who inspired the biggest overnight spike in searches.
	So who's number one?
	Is it Sean White?
	Not him, believe it or not.
	Gracie Gold?
	No.
	Could be her next week.
	But right now, it's Sage Kotzenberg.
	His name saw the biggest spike in Yahoo searches.
	He's gone from a virtual unknown now to a...
	Do they have graphics and charts to go with this and arrows pointing up and everything?
	Oh yeah, this is loaded to the gills of graphics.
	Giant maps.
	Kotzenberg brought his followers along for the ride, tweeting throughout his winning day and afterward getting love from all over the world, including this tweet from Kobe Bryant.
	Wow!
	Let's leave you tonight with one last word from the opening ceremony.
	After the cauldron was lit, the First Lady of the United States, Michelle Obama, summed it all up pretty nicely in a tweet, writing, Thanks, U.S. Olympic team, for inspiring me and our nation's kids.
	Meredith?
	Brought to you by Visa.
	Was that a piece of crap?
	I told you, I can't watch it anymore.
	Facebook and Twitter plugs up the butt?
	And Twitter has really got to be shut down.
	The Twitter?
	Oh, he tweeted this.
	He tweeted that.
	Oh, he tweeted congratulations.
	Oh, he tweeted you're ugly.
	No, I think that's all fine.
	I think that's really good.
	That's actually the Twitter thing I'm okay with.
	I'm not.
	No, I'm okay with that because it's...
	Well, I know you are.
	You just said that.
	Yeah, but it's different.
	It's a different thing.
	Who cares?
	Let me do one last little thing here just to get you back on track.
	You've already thrown me off.
	So Obama and Hollande got together in Washington, right?
	Yeah.
	So I have two very short clips.
	One is what Obama said to Hollande, and then one that Hollande said to Obama.
	And I think the contrast is, let's use the word, telling.
	Okay, so we'll use Obama to Hollande first.
	Yeah, play that and then break.
	Okay, and then we'll go to the next one.
	Alright, here we go.
	Standing together and using our freedom to improve the lives of not only our citizens but people around the world is what makes France not only America's oldest ally but also one of our closest allies.
	Wait a minute.
	I've heard that line before.
	Yeah.
	That's what he says.
	Alright.
	So now here's what Hollande said to him.
	France and the United States are two countries.
	That's right.
	And one of them speaks French.
	That's what he said.
	His line was, there are two countries.
	This visit, of course, comes amidst a lot of stuff happening in Africa.
	And a lot of it in the French portion of the African Empire.
	What used to be known as the African Empires.
	I've done my diligence.
	I've really tried to look into as much as possible, starting with the drone base that we really knew nothing about in Niger or Niger or making plans for Niger.
	And I went back and I found a clip from January of last year when the news about this so-called drone base, which now is apparently huge and in full operation, this is how the shill woman from the Department of Defense answered the question about rumors in the press of the drone base in Niger.
	Ms.
	Dory, it has been widely reported that the U.S. is...
	Eager to build a drone base in Niger, to the extent you can tell us in an open hearing.
	Has that base begun construction or even been completed?
	Are drones being launched from that base?
	And how many U.S. personnel are there?
	We know these questions are scripted.
	I think he did a little too easy on the read there.
	To start, we do not have a drone base in Niger, so hopefully that is helpful.
	What I can say is that commensurate with the growing threat in the region, Africa Command, as well as the intelligence community, is very interested in increasing resources that are focusing on the region to improve our understanding of what is happening there.
	And we are seeing a growth in...
	Intelligence resources of all kinds.
	This is how you skirt around the question.
	There's a growth in intelligence resources of all kinds, okay?
	To include ISR, what you're referring to, in part, I believe, is news that stemmed from the recent conclusion of a status of forces agreement with the government of Niger.
	This is the type of foundational agreement that we pursue in many different countries in Africa that have regular relationships with Africa Command for purposes of exercises and other activities.
	So that was what made it into the news and then an extrapolation about a drone base from there.
	A news report that was an exaggeration.
	It does happen.
	Unusual.
	Yeah, okay, so a year later, of course, we know that it's true, and that both of you were just full of crap.
	Can you remember, this is one of the clips I had on the last show, I believe, about the drone, that brought up the drone base, or was it the show before?
	No, the last show.
	That's why I went in looking for information about this drone base, yeah.
	What, do you remember which clip it was?
	Yeah, I can probably find it.
	Hold on a second.
	I was as shocked as you are that we have a bass there, and it's based on this clip.
	I think it was on VanCath.
	I'm just trying to say what the source of this information was, because now that it points out an obvious lie, you don't build a drone base overnight.
	I think it was this one.
	Well, French and African troops do have a mandate from the United Nations to use force if there's a direct threat to the civilian population.
	So if, for example, a Muslim is being lynched by an I don't think it's that one.
	USA in Africa with French?
	Maybe it's that one?
	Let me see.
	It has several military bases.
	So looking at the map then, Armand, just remind us where they've cooperated so far and where they may cooperate in the future.
	Well, they cooperated a lot in Mali because the U.S. had just set up a drone base in neighboring Niger.
	Yeah, there you go.
	So that's where it came from.
	And I understand why it's in Niger, because that's right in the middle of Mali, as this clip said, to the north.
	That's where we have the ever-so-dangerous Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb.
	Yeah, this is true.
	And then to the south, we have Nigeria, which of course is Boko Haram.
	But in both cases, it's the French.
	I thought Boko Haram was...
	No, they're in Nigeria.
	Wasn't Boko Haram Kenya?
	They may be there too, but I think their base is in...
	Look, all of this is probably made up.
	I mean, who knows?
	Yeah, okay, we can go with that.
	All right.
	Now, apparently, we also have a drone base in Ethiopia, because now I start really looking into it.
	I'm like, where are we in Africa?
	So we have Ethiopia.
	We know we have Djibouti.
	AFRICOM, which is mentioned in my clip, is still in Germany.
	And this is what's very strange, because you'd think they could put it in Libya or any of these other places that we kind of own.
	Yes, in Germany.
	Right.
	But it's still in Germany.
	But we have the eyes in the air.
	We have the eyes in the air.
	And, of course, the only two countries that we need to really be looking at, although it turns out that may not be true, is the two on the West Clark 7 list, which would be, I think, Sudan and Somalia.
	These are really on our New World Order list.
	But somehow, and obviously it's BP and Total and Elf.
	Is it Elf Oil?
	Elf?
	ELF? Is that the other French one?
	Yeah, the French one.
	And if you really look at all these countries, they were all run up until the late 60s or 70s by Britain and France.
	And we really didn't have a lot to do in there.
	And I'm starting to see that not only are we extracting the minerals, of course we're extracting Chinese first.
	Like, oh, hello Chinese, thank you for building the road and the infrastructure, get out.
	Then we're taking over that.
	But there's also, and this is what I think the French and the British are seeing, because these countries are growing, there's a huge market now in selling gasoline to African countries.
	People are getting cars, and the infrastructure is really building there.
	It's no longer just jungle bunnies running around chucking spears.
	These are real countries with real economies that are going to make a big difference.
	And I think everything is shifting over there, not just for extracting, but for selling and building and buying and doing business.
	You're going to get letters for that.
	For what?
	Spear chucking sand bunnies?
	Jungle bunnies?
	Yeah.
	I'm making a point.
	I know that you are, but do listeners of the show don't understand how you make your points?
	Well, then they should...
	I think this is disgusting.
	They're going to gripe.
	I'm just telling you in advance.
	So I don't want to hear you grousing about it.
	That's fine.
	People don't understand.
	That's fine.
	And you can kind of apply this to what's happening in the Middle East.
	Hold on a second.
	Let me help you here so you don't get these letters.
	What Adam just did...
	Was portray a stereotype of the African which is used as a model for the elites insofar as their predisposed definition of the situation.
	Yes.
	And that would be exactly how they think.
	And what he was doing was essentially reflecting that when he uses this usage.
	Yes.
	Didn't bother me, but I know that some people would be upset because they're already on your case.
	It's fine.
	Everybody can be on my case.
	That's fine.
	I'm just saying, I just wanted to...
	Because I know what you're doing, and the way you do it is...
	It seems...
	It's very elegant, actually.
	So, continue.
	Thank you.
	I am convinced that a large portion, certainly of the American public, but probably the European public as well, when they heard about the shootings in the shopping mall in Kenya, I have a feeling a lot of them went...
	What?
	They got shopping malls in Kenya?
	Right, and it's a modern shopping mall.
	Yeah, it's very modern, too.
	And you see the movies from inside.
	It looks like any crappy shopping mall anywhere.
	Exactly.
	They got popcorn.
	They got a movie theater.
	They got the games out front of the movie theater.
	Cineplex.
	Cineplex, thank you.
	They've got...
	What's the t-shirt shop where you buy your skateboard hipster gear?
	Yeah, t-shirt shop is what it was.
	T-shirt shops.
	It's...
	Well, let me do a little aside about this.
	For example, in Asia, there's different kinds of shopping malls.
	One of these guys, when I travel, I don't sit around the hotel.
	I get somebody to take me shopping.
	It's your staff.
	I'm usually not a staff.
	Usually somebody's hauling me over there for some reason, and I kind of demand an escort to take me places, unless it's like Korea, which I know the town enough, I can get on a bus, and I've done that, and just bus around.
	But there are shopping malls that make many of our shopping malls look very sick by comparison, and some of them are very weird, though.
	There's a shopping mall, and I believe this is in one, I think this is in...
	Yeah, I'm trying to think either Jakarta or someplace like that.
	But the outside of the mall, it's like they're different.
	It's like the merchandise mart in Chicago.
	It's a big building as opposed to a strip mall, and the building has maybe eight floors of shopping.
	Mm-hmm.
	And it's more vertical than it is horizontal because of the space limitations.
	So the shopping mall takes on a slightly different quality.
	But it's still a shopping mall, and they have the same stuff.
	They have the same perfumes.
	They usually have a better selection of Asian electronics than any place you've ever seen, and cameras, etc., in different colors you've never seen.
	And they're pretty modern.
	It's just like people shouldn't be thinking like that, that there's no shopping malls in Nairobi.
	Or any of these countries, really.
	And that, of course, is the point that I'm making.
	It's the same point that I make that people somehow...
	And this is exactly the same.
	Russia is just filled with a bunch of hairy, fat women with drunken, vodka-slurping dudes with bear hats on who hate gays.
	Yeah, well, besides that, though, there's a lot of pleasant Russians.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I'll give you a little in the morning.
	A report came out.
	Where is it here?
	I have it here.
	Americans.
	Okay, who did this report?
	Washington, D.C. I just got to open this up to find out who did the actual report.
	This is Gallup.
	Oh, there you go.
	Gallup poll.
	Would you say that's reasonably no more corrupt than the rest?
	I would say it's probably the least of the corrupt groups.
	When I see Gallup, they have a trust.
	They're trustworthy in the trust sense.
	February 13, 2014.
	America's views of Russia, Putin, are worst in years.
	Clear majority view the Russian president and his nation unfavorably.
	Yeah.
	No kidding.
	So the propaganda machine does its job.
	As host nation, Russia dominates the world stage of the Winter Olympics in Soechi.
	Americans clearly do not think highly of the country or its president, Vladimir Putin.
	Putin and Russia scored the highest unfavorable rating, 63 and 60 percent respectively, that Gallup has recorded for them in the past two decades.
	20 years.
	Good work, human rights watch.
	Yeah.
	It's exactly what you wanted.
	Well, there you go.
	Now, here's what's funny.
	I don't know why this keeps getting lost in the conversation, maybe because we don't pound on it enough.
	I'm listening to somebody else's podcast, and the guy goes in with this thesis that we have, because I guess it got to him, about the gay thing in Russia is overblown, and the Russians are just what they are.
	I mean, they haven't...
	They're not going out of their way to do one thing or another about gays coming over to visit Sochi, and Sochi's not that bad of a situation in reality.
	And the comment was, why would we do that?
	What is the point of making the Russians look like a bunch of saps and creeps?
	It's always forgotten that the Russians have Snowden.
	Yeah.
	It's about Snowden.
	Yeah.
	Give us Snowden.
	No, we're not giving you Snowden.
	Oh, really?
	Okay, well, here.
	And that's how it began.
	Here, watch this.
	It all tracks right back to Snowden.
	Just to show you how great the No Agenda global audience is, I got a tweet.
	From someone who was watching RTL4, which is the commercial broadcaster in the Netherlands.
	And he said, oh my god, RTL4 on their newscast used the same drag queens for a Sochi report as NBC used.
	The same drag queens in the same sorry-ass club with the same sorry-ass story about how gays are persecuted in Sochi.
	Yeah, it's a package.
	It's a package, exactly.
	And I wonder who did the package.
	Do we know who produced it?
	I'll bet you it was one of these NGOs.
	I think it's...
	Well, I don't think it was...
	It wasn't a package per se because the...
	And it's useless for me to play because it's all in Dutch.
	They had their own reporter there, but I think that they have a liaison.
	You know, this is part of the Human Rights Watch liaison there.
	It's like, okay, NBC, tomorrow we'll be going to the drag quote to the Viking bar...
	And then RTL, we can go on Thursday.
	Yes, okay, very good.
	We'll set y'all up.
	Well, I don't mean it's a package where it's a complete product, but here's the B-roll, here's the script, here's the kind of thing, you know, one of those things where you can have your local guy doing the report, I think is more common now than a pure package that is completely done from beginning to end.
	Right, right.
	And meanwhile, what I found the real news to be is that Egypt has apparently reached a deal with Russia for Russian military equipment.
	So we have said, you know, screw you guys.
	We're not going to give you the F-16s.
	We're not going to give you some helicopters.
	And Russia, Putin goes to Egypt and makes a $3 billion deal, which apparently Saudi Arabia is going to fund.
	And no one is talking about this.
	Wow, I didn't get this either.
	You got me.
	I find this to be something that needs to be evaluated.
	We are giving money.
	Of course, that's how it works.
	We give money to Egypt.
	Egypt then, I don't think they even get a check.
	Why is our stuff?
	Yeah, they don't even get a check, right?
	Don't we just cut it directly to the contractor?
	I would presume.
	I'd presume Egypt doesn't get a check or Bitcoin.
	No.
	No.
	They get a Bitcoin.
	One Bitcoin.
	So now, Saudi Arabia has said, well, you know, we're kind of interested in the Egypt thing over there.
	Because they're always involved in everything.
	And they're going to give $3 billion to the Russians for MiG-29s and Mi-35 helicopters, some light weapons, some ammo...
	But no, Bob Costas has pink eye.
	What are we doing in America, people?
	What are we doing anywhere with any kind of news?
	The Dutch.
	So, of course, the Dutch are sweeping the speed skating, which is great.
	We have, I think, the men won gold, silver, bronze, women gold, silver, bronze.
	Putin.
	Putin's over there sucking up to our queen, our hottie queen from Argentina, and our king, King Pils, who's drunk.
	He's drunk all the time.
	I'm at the Olympics.
	And that's all that they can report on.
	Nothing else is important.
	It is such a big distraction from reality.
	Well, we do the same thing.
	I watch the reports.
	They have a guy comes in first, a guy comes in with a great story, a guy comes in second, an American comes in third.
	They interview the American.
	Yeah, of course.
	How was it coming in third?
	Was it exciting?
	Yeah, it was exciting.
	I'm glad I got third.
	So I think these things...
	And then, of course, we had the hockey thing, which I guess we got a ruling and we beat Russia because of some technicality.
	Well, it wasn't that.
	The net was out of the hole, and by rule, gold doesn't count.
	It's just a rule.
	So you think that all of this, that the entire gang up, is only about Snowden?
	I think so, yeah.
	Well, no, okay.
	It can't be.
	Also, the Syria.
	Syria, because Russia.
	It's a bunch of things, but Snowden was the cherry on the top of the thing.
	That's when we let it rip.
	Yeah.
	It's like, come on!
	I think a lot of it has to do with Syria, because Syria has essentially been saved, if you really want to look at it objectively.
	The Syrian people, you know, they all would have been dead.
	All bombed the smithereens like Libya, and you wouldn't have seen any of it if it were not for the Russians.
	I truly think Russia saved more Syrian people than we're pretending to with sending, you know, Al-Qaeda fighters over there.
	Yeah, I agree with that.
	I think the Russians are full of crap because I've been watching a lot of RT. And, you know, they're full of crap.
	And they're trying to do the best they can with their propaganda machine, which doesn't even come close to ours.
	We're so much better.
	Yes.
	It's just ludicrous.
	And I think they're flummoxed by the whole thing.
	They're kind of like, oh God, what do we do now?
	I don't know.
	And they just hope to God that...
	I mean, we're two guys that try to compare notes on these things, and we see what the Russians are up to, and...
	Our State Department is up to in terms of countering what the Russians are trying to do.
	And then there's the Chinese issue, which the Russians are also kind of a wild card in that because they're kind of friends with the Chinese, but then again they're not because they share a border and they really don't like each other.
	It's interesting.
	But yeah, the Russians are outflanked by us by lots.
	It's got to be frustrating.
	If you're them, yeah.
	And I think that's part of the reason that Putin's always out there with his shirt off.
	You know, your president can't ride a motorcycle.
	Your president can't ride...
	You ever see him throw a baseball?
	He can't throw a baseball.
	All he can do is shoot a basketball.
	You know what it is?
	So, thank you for pointing this out.
	This is...
	And by the way, all of this could be solved very easily.
	All Russia has to do is hire the Curry-Dvorak Consulting Group.
	We know how to do this for you.
	They are using Cold War tactics of, look at my chest.
	Look at the bear I shot.
	Look at the fish I caught.
	You have to be way, way, way on the other end of things to impress the world stage.
	This is all they know how to do.
	Right.
	This is all 50s stuff.
	50s.
	Thank you.
	First of all, Vlad has got to start speaking English.
	He's got to get someone.
	He's just got to do it.
	You are behind.
	You have zero.
	You need to speak the language of the kids.
	And all the kids speak English because that's the popular culture.
	Just learn a few words.
	Tweet it.
	We can start there.
	We can start there.
	Now, where's Russia's first lady?
	And we've got Michelle Obama.
	Excuse me, by the way, this counts.
	The $12,000 dress, the celebratis at the state dinner, this stuff counts on the world stage.
	Putin, get your babe out there, get her gussied up in some Tom Ford.
	You wear the Tom Ford, give her some Gautier, Gucci, whatever, Versace.
	You got stores there.
	You got to get it gussied up, man.
	Well, the way I see it, even though it doesn't really work because after spending $50 billion on gussying up Sochi, he gets a lot of flack from his political competition as a spendthrift.
	He's not a good Soviet or Soviet Russian.
	He's too flamboyant, which is not true.
	The Russians actually have a history with Catherine the Great.
	Peter the Great, all these greats, Putin the Great, in the past, the French and the Russians were very close to each other, historically, and they would always copy each other.
	The French love the Russians in terms of their art and architecture, and it goes the other way.
	And so when Catherine the Great got in, she just built the place up with all kinds of fancy palaces, and before that, they've done this just all the time, until Stalin got in, and then he just built everything in this kind of...
	Let me give you an example of that.
	An example.
	So on this ski slope style thing, they have a big babushka doll on the ski slope.
	A nesting doll.
	Yeah.
	They need chicks to pop out of that at some point.
	You know, like babes.
	Not just another wooden doll.
	You know, this is...
	Modernize a little bit, people.
	Well, Russia does have...
	That doll is cool because some of the stunt guys would bounce off of it.
	I know, I know.
	The best thing Putin has going for him in this fight, America against Russia, Putin against Obama, is clearly his agent of change, Joe Biden.
	He's working for the Russians.
	Did you hear what he said just the other day?
	You have a clip.
	I do.
	It always surprises me when we don't have the degree of optimism we should about the state of the nation.
	And in spite of who's president?
	In spite of who's in the Congress?
	In spite of who's president?
	That's your boss, dude!
	Does he realize you can't say in spite of the president?
	He doesn't know a lot.
	Does he even know what he's saying?
	In spite of the president.
	In spite of who's president.
	Wow, Joe.
	Pick up your ruble check.
	Well, he deserves it for that.
	Meanwhile, yeah, they need to upgrade.
	They've got to modernize.
	They've got to bring it up to the 21st century.
	It's just old-fashioned stuff.
	I mean, it's funny for us.
	I mean, we get a kick out of seeing Putin doing some dumb things, flying with a goose in an ultralight is an example.
	But, yeah.
	Now I know.
	All of that is, you're right, 1950s era.
	He got definitely jobbed on the Sochi thing, because when you see, when you watch Russia Today's...
	A version of the Olympics.
	And, of course, they're promoting it.
	They show some stuff, though, that is like I never saw.
	Some of the fireworks displays and some of the cute little town that's there.
	They're roaming around.
	It's really quite attractive.
	It would be a cool place to visit.
	But I would never get that impression from any American coverage.
	I saw that...
	Let me see.
	Do I have it here?
	I thought they were misusing...
	The global warming in Sochi, because I guess they don't have snow or it's above freezing, and so now that's being misused as, oh, yes, well, there's global warming and it's ruining the Olympics.
	Well, isn't Sochi a place that has palm trees?
	Doesn't it kind of happen there?
	It's a resort town on the Black Sea.
	Yes.
	It's a resort town.
	It's a resort village that they built up.
	I don't know what they're going to do with it now because of all those extra buildings, but yeah, it's all built up, but it's a summer thing, and so it probably doesn't get that cold.
	All the skiing stuff is 45 minutes away.
	Mm-hmm.
	Well, we're getting a ton of...
	Of course, here's the situation.
	In the United States, we have a pretty big cold snap, which is not unprecedented, but it's very annoying for people on the West Coast and southern states.
	In the meantime, in Europe, the United Kingdom is flooding.
	The Dutch claim they have the warmest winter ever, which I also don't think is true.
	Then people are using...
	The example of it being very warm in Australia.
	Of course, this is their summer.
	It's exactly polar opposite.
	But CBS really is taking this to the max with this...
	You know the Michu Kaku, the crazy Asian scientist guy?
	Who they bring in from time to time?
	The guy with the white hair?
	Yes, that guy.
	That guy.
	That guy.
	And he is a...
	He's not a meteorologist.
	I think he's a...
	He's a physicist.
	Physicist, right.
	But he is now in charge of propagating the message.
	You need to listen to this report combating the global cooling that we believe we are in.
	Charlie Rose just muttering throughout the whole thing while Kaku is talking out of his butt.
	As another major storm system hits the south and the east, sub-zero temperatures still grip the Midwest.
	And Western Oregon and Washington State were hit with unusual snow.
	Northern California just got about 20 inches of rain from a Pineapple Express, but that state is far from ending its drought emergency.
	Question about that.
	When do you have enough rain to end the drought emergency?
	What do you really need to end it in California?
	I was listening to, I don't know if you listen to her normally, but the Congressional Dish with Jen Briney.
	Yeah, I listen to her, but sometimes I get annoyed by her Obama bot-ism.
	She's a bit of a bot, but she does go through this stuff, and she went through the farm bill.
	Yes, I heard that one.
	I realize there's something she talks about, which is the drought...
	Funds that if you apparently declare a drought of any sort...
	This is exactly what I was thinking.
	Yeah, how much money can you get?
	You get a bunch of money.
	So in California, if it can do it, it just stays in a drought no matter how much it gets.
	That's what I was thinking.
	It's a scam.
	Yes, and it's a federal funding scam.
	Yeah, it's just a way to get money from the feds.
	But they have to pretend, you know, oh God, it's a drought.
	Oh, and then it gives them an excuse to jack up the rates again.
	They never lower the rates, by the way.
	It could be flooding.
	What do you think Charlie meant by a pineapple express?
	Is that a meteorological term?
	It's any storm that comes in over Hawaii and then comes up and picks up tropical moisture and drops it in California.
	It's called a pineapple express.
	But I keep following this, and I also see the Federal Register, and every single day there's the President signed disaster relief for this state, for Georgia, for Florida, for California, for New Jersey.
	It's like billions and billions of dollars, and I think you're right.
	As long as you keep claiming it's a drought, no matter how hard it rains...
	I'm expecting zero fruits and greens from California this year.
	You guys must be dying out there.
	I can't believe I'm talking to you.
	You must be dead.
	The way it sounds.
	I'm looking out here and everything looks pretty green.
	Now, here's apparently a whopper coming in that's going to drop a couple of feet on us.
	And it looks like the jet stream is shifting enough to bring all this Alaskan air down, filled with moisture, and just flood us.
	I mean, just nail us.
	And I guarantee after that's over, it'll still be a drought.
	Oh, it's still a drought!
	No, you're right.
	Here's the rest of this report.
	Rain from a pineapple express, but that state is far from ending its drought emergency.
	CBS News contributor Michio Kaku is a physics professor.
	Which means he knows nothing professionally, professorally, about climate.
	At the City College of New York, good morning.
	Morning.
	So what's causing all this?
	Well, the wacky weather could get even wackier.
	Bah, that's when I perk up.
	Holy crap, when did he become a broadcaster at the morning zoo?
	Hey everybody, the wacky weather could get wet!
	Woo!
	Baby, yeah!
	Come on, my daddy was a beetle!
	I don't know why I said that, but that's what they do at the morning zoo.
	What we're seeing is that the jet stream and the polar vortex are becoming unstable.
	Unstable.
	Unstable.
	Instability of historic proportions.
	Historic proportions.
	I will give you no backup, no proof, but it's historic, trust me.
	Now think of the polar vortex as a bucket.
	A swirling bucket of cold air.
	However, the walls are weakening.
	Cold air is spilling.
	Listen to Roe's going, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	He's a robot.
	And he's just lapping it up.
	...bucket of cold air.
	However, the walls are weakening.
	Cold air is spilling out, spilling out over the walls of the bucket.
	And the question is, why?
	Why is this polar vortex weakening?
	This is like romper room.
	It's a big bucket, but the walls are weakening, and the air is spilling over the thin walls.
	The question is why?
	Why?
	Let's ask Doobie.
	Doobie can tell us.
	We think it's because of the gradual heating up of the North Pole.
	Oh, it's the gradual heating of the North Pole.
	We think it's the gradual heating of the North Pole.
	The North Pole is melting.
	It's melting.
	Global warming.
	Global warming.
	Charlie Roosevelt.
	Global warming.
	I just woke up.
	Kaku, did you say global warming?
	Melting.
	Listen to Rose in the background.
	It's hilarious.
	Global warming.
	The North Pole is melting.
	Global warming.
	This is the programming.
	See, Charlie Rose is very tired.
	Very, very tired man.
	He does too much work.
	He does way too much work.
	There's only a few guys.
	You might as just let me go aside for a second.
	He does his regular interview show, which takes a lot of effort.
	He's a big staff.
	He's got to coordinate, and then he's got to talk to all these guys.
	And if you've done an interview show of any sort over the years, you know that most people are not even interesting.
	Right.
	They can't converse.
	You have to carry the show.
	It's like a lot of work.
	And so you get pooped.
	That's enough work for any one guy, believe it or not, even though it's only an hour.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, it's a lot of work.
	It's a lot of work.
	It doesn't look like it, but it is.
	And to do a morning show, which means you have to get up at four.
	Earlier.
	No, earlier!
	No, no.
	He's up at three.
	He's up at three, man.
	Definitely.
	Three in the morning.
	Yeah.
	And then you've got to prep and they've got to put you through makeup and then you've got to go over to the show.
	And that's an hour and a half show.
	Right.
	So you've got to be lively.
	So here's what's happening.
	For the housewives.
	So he is in a constant buzz, coma buzz.
	Yeah.
	And this is what's so beautiful about it because the trigger words are...
	Ice is melting.
	North Pole is melting.
	The pole is warming.
	And then you can hear him go, global warming!
	Which is what most people are programmed to think.
	This is programming in process.
	I'm Sir Richard Attenborough.
	And here we see a fine specimen.
	A specimen known as the morning newscaster.
	The newscaster.
	I wish you could find the clip of him where he's making a pass at that woman.
	I have that.
	Huh.
	I have that.
	We have the newscaster.
	The newscaster has been programmed over years to believe in angriperchopagra global warming.
	That's the stuff that men made themselves.
	And when he gets the key words, he literally will wake up and say global warming.
	Weakening.
	We think it's because of the gradual heating up of the North Pole.
	The North Pole is melting.
	Global warming!
	Global warming!
	Tell me about the sexuality.
	It's in your DNA. That's right.
	That is the creepiest clip ever.
	That was Angelina Jolie.
	Tell me about your sexuality.
	It's in your DNA. Global warming.
	That excess heat generated by all this warm water is destabilizing this gigantic bucket of cold air, weakening this low-pressure region, causing cold air to spill out over the United States.
	So that's the irony.
	That was the irony of the bucket and the whatever.
	The heating could cause gigantic storms of historic proportions.
	Okay, so the irony is the heating can cause gigantic storms of epic proportions.
	Can you repeat that, please?
	No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding.
	We get the spilling out of the bucket, right?
	Yeah, because, right.
	No, I don't get that.
	When has this happened before, the spilling out of the bucket, right?
	Can you repeat that, please?
	No.
	No, I'm kidding.
	I'm kidding.
	We get the spilling out of the bucket, right?
	So when we see this snow in the Midwest and the South, why then has California been the driest on record?
	I mean, look at the snowpack in the Sierras.
	Any of the skier knows out there, they have so little snowpack.
	Huge drought.
	Because a lot of the weather, the moisture-laden air, which should go to California, is being diverted into Canada, where it freezes.
	No!
	Yes!
	Finally!
	Damn, Scandinavians stealing our snow.
	I knew it.
	And it falls on your backyard.
	So in some sense, there's a link between what's happening in California as a jet stream diverts the moisture-laden air over Canada, and then it snows on the United States.
	I'm trying to follow you.
	I'm really trying to follow you.
	But does this explain why Niagara Falls is frozen and why it's warm in Sochi?
	It's all connected to the same thing, correct?
	Okay, it's all...
	What is that same thing?
	Get this guy off the air.
	No, no, he's genius.
	In fact, they're going to compliment him on his broadcast professionalism.
	It's connected.
	If you take a look at...
	Globally.
	Hello, I'm Charlie Rose.
	Globally.
	You see that England is flooding right now.
	Latin America is warm, while California has a drought.
	We're talking about instabilities caused by the erratic nature of...
	What can be done about it, Professor?
	Anything we can actually do about it.
	The bad news is that the North Polar region continues to rise in temperature.
	It seems to be irreversible at a certain point.
	Where is the fact in this?
	This is just not true.
	There's not a fact in any of this.
	This is all supposition and just knee-jerk bullcrap.
	And I like to ask the question, which I ask every time you bring one of these idiots on here with a clip.
	I thought, I think the first time I heard it was maybe almost 10 years ago, that if we don't do something this year, it's irreversible, we're doomed.
	The next year, if we don't do something this year, it's irreversible, we're doomed.
	If we don't do something this year, it's irreversible, we're doomed.
	It happens all the time, and now it's happening again.
	When are we doomed?
	It's irreversible.
	If it was irreversible ten years ago, why is it not irreversible?
	Or it's gonna be.
	We're getting near the end here.
	Yeah.
	Does this bother you?
	Me?
	Yes.
	Yes, we're doomed.
	We may have to get used to a new normal.
	Ah!
	That is a North Polar region that is melting, causing more instability in this bucket, causing more things to spill out, which means more extremes.
	Some winters could be very mild.
	Yeah.
	Other winters could be horrendous.
	And you said 2014 is going to be the hottest?
	Listen, just listen it out, man.
	Listen it out.
	We have to help people understand that they can laugh about these jabronis.
	It's on record?
	It's shaping up that this year could be one of the hottest years on record.
	The decade that just passed, it was the hottest decade ever recorded in the history of science.
	In the history of science ever since bones were invented.
	You know, if this physics thing doesn't work out, you can be a weatherman.
	Charlie Rose made it funny.
	But there's something up with CBS. CBS is really pushing this right now.
	And I got an equally disturbing report from the local CBS station.
	There's all these...
	Climate spokesholes that are around.
	They're available and they're all professors somewhere or other.
	This guy, what is his profession?
	Hold on a second.
	He's from, I think, Alabama.
	And his name is Thorell.
	What is his name here?
	Matthew Thorell.
	And he is...
	He's not a meteorologist.
	I have it here somewhere.
	I gotta look for what he is.
	But they pulled him as an expert onto a local CBS where they're essentially doing the same package.
	He had dendrochronology.
	What's dendrochronology?
	Well, let's find out.
	I think that's the study of dead trees, actually.
	Oh, that could be.
	Yeah, that's probably why he's involved.
	Guy has a huge beard, so you know he's hiding something.
	Hey, welcome back in.
	The recent winter weather only gives more fodder for those who debate the validity of the global warming and climate change argument.
	Okay, you know where this is going.
	This is the propaganda, the anti-pill...
	That we need to spread locally to tell people that this cold weather, it's just part of the heating.
	And a recent article citing several scientists suggest our planet could actually be in for a global cooling period.
	Dr.
	Matthew Farrell is a professor of geography at the University of Alabama.
	He joins us now live from our Tuscaloosa newsroom.
	Doctor, good morning to you.
	Good morning.
	Hold on a second.
	You picked us up on a local affiliate in Arkansas?
	Or Alabama, I mean?
	It's from...
	Or was this played in Austin?
	No, this was not in Austin.
	I think this is Washington State.
	Well, they don't have a...
	Play that back.
	There's no way anybody in Washington State has a...
	Let me find out.
	I could be wrong.
	Hold on.
	Let me find out.
	Let me find out if I can...
	Hmm.
	I don't know where this is from, John.
	Let's listen again.
	We might be able to figure it out.
	So that is slight.
	I'll let it slide.
	Welcome back in.
	The recent winter weather only gives more fodder for those who debate the validity of the global warming and climate change argument.
	And a recent article citing several scientists suggest our planet could actually be in for a global cooling period.
	Dr.
	Matthew Farrell is a professor of geography at the University of Alabama.
	He joins us now live from our Tuscaloosa newsroom.
	Tuscaloosa.
	So where's Tuscaloosa?
	Alabama.
	Tuscaloosa, Alabama.
	So it's an Alabama report.
	I'm pretty sure.
	Okay.
	Good morning to you.
	Good morning.
	Could be Birmingham.
	It seems like it depends on who you're talking to these days, whether there's a difference between global warming and climate change.
	Are we talking about the same thing here?
	Well, essentially, I mean, I think that that's an argument that's sort of in the public realm, maybe in the Internet, but...
	Ah, pay attention, John.
	Just in the Internet, the stupid Internet people think that that's something they do.
	Yeah, yeah.
	You know, I've noticed that.
	Yes.
	I've noticed that there are a lot of idiots on the internet.
	They talk about stuff like that, but we're going to be serious here.
	It's not an important argument going on in the scientific community.
	No, not in the scientific community, which is different from the LGBTQI community.
	So when we get this harsh winter weather that we're getting now, skeptics wonder, how could we be warming up the earth?
	So what do you say?
	I love how the package is written.
	Skeptics say, this whole thing is written so beautifully, to shout down people.
	Well, I think that people need to remember that weather and climate are different things, and you can never take one weather event and ascribe that to global change.
	For instance, at the same time that we're experiencing really cold weather, it's extremely warm in Australia.
	Yeah, it's their summer, douche.
	That is unbelievable!
	Yeah, he's literally saying it's warm in Australia.
	Yeah, it's summer there.
	Yeah, it's also kind of warm in Panama a lot of times of the year.
	Yeah, it's very weird that way.
	And take one event and say that that has anything to do with climate change or global warming even.
	All right, now, in a Forbes magazine article back in May of last year...
	This is my favorite piece.
	...they cited noted scientists from Russia, meteorologists from Germany, as saying we're actually entering an area of global cooling caused mainly by two factors.
	Colder ocean water.
	What are you doing?
	I'm clapping.
	Cycling to the top every 20 to 30 years and decrease sunspot activity.
	So there seems to be maybe some disagreement within the scientific community.
	Now, how are we going to address this?
	Because this is the nexus.
	I think we probably have people in our audience who have seen this report on their local station.
	Maybe with this guy, even, as the expert.
	Because what happened is Forbes magazine publishes an article saying it looks like global cooling, and they have scientists weighing in with their expert analysis, just as good or as bad as the IPCC, really.
	And this has to be discredited, and this is how you do it.
	Well, you know, that's a good point.
	That's something I talk with my students a lot about, which is media literacy.
	And, you know, the first thing I always tell them is to consider the sources.
	And so, for example, I don't think most people consider Forbes magazine a reputable source for climate information.
	If you look at the particular article that you're referencing, that's an op-ed piece.
	It's not a journalism article.
	So, you know, this isn't something that I would consider a reputable source for discussing climate change.
	Well, you know, but the scientists, though, he cites it there, they weren't obviously commenting on the op-ed piece.
	They were just mainly stating their data, their scientific research.
	Are you disputing their research?
	Well, he actually referenced newspaper articles that reference those scientists.
	So, you know, if you really want to understand it, you have to get to the original sources and look at those.
	You know, like I say, if you're really doing studies on this, like my students would, for example, that would not be a good source to look at.
	Oh, okay.
	All right, good.
	So it's wrong sources, wrong scientists, obviously.
	Yeah, and his students would know better.
	Yeah, kids, students would know so much better.
	So the guy at Forbes is an idiot.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Wow, that was good.
	That's exactly the way to do it.
	You discredit the source, right?
	You cut it off at the knees.
	Perfect.
	And I do want to say about this whole thing in the UK, this is not unexpected, what is happening there.
	And so these guys can say a million times, this is all freakish and whoa, who knows?
	Never rained there before.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Remember when Britain used to, people would highlight the R, the A, and the I, and the N of Britain?
	It would always rain.
	It was just in the 70s.
	It was like, you go into Britain, oh, rain.
	Ever hear of London fog?
	It used to be the wettest place on earth, the way I remember it.
	Yeah.
	But I had this great article about European Union policy introduced by the 2007 Directive From the Environment Agency, which was, I think, introduced but published fully in 2008, which then sought to increase the frequency of flooding in this exact area.
	They knew this was coming.
	They knew that they could either make space for water.
	This is all Agenda 21 stuff, by the way.
	All of this.
	All of this ludicracy of not building up resistance to this area.
	The whole point is to have these homes wash away.
	I'm quite convinced about it.
	When you read this article and you see how this area of the UK was really meant to be managed to flood.
	And all the documentation points towards it.
	And now all of a sudden where people are bitching and moaning, they bring in the Dutch who are just pumping it out with their, you know, this is what the Dutch do very well.
	And oh yeah, maybe we should put some strategy in place.
	But this is not unexpected.
	This has been known since almost the mid-2000s that this area was going to be flooding.
	And now Cameron just walks around pretending like, I don't know, whatever, oh yes, we'll help them all out.
	It's very disturbing.
	Since we don't have, we haven't had any major kind of, even though I still think there's one coming, conflagration, in other words, World War II, where you got to bomb out all this old stuff, kill a lot of people in the process, but you get to bomb it out and then rebuild this in a modern, you know, with modern facilities.
	Yeah.
	You still got to get rid of some of this crap.
	You mean people crap?
	Even though to you and me, it's not crap.
	It's beautiful stuff that could be modernized.
	But no, no.
	That's not the way anyone else thinks.
	Americans kind of think like that because we don't really have anything old.
	But they have stuff from the 1600s and 1700s that is just falling apart.
	But you can't just tear it down.
	Many of it's got these special designations.
	Exactly.
	If you've got a special designation place, you'll start to hear reports, and I've already started to hear them, but I didn't think about it until you brought this theory up.
	You start to hear reports of, oh, that was one of the most famous places.
	It was famous, and it was protected, and now it's washed away.
	What are we going to do?
	Yeah.
	Have you noticed this?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, there'll be a bunch of famous places that are ruined, washed away, gutted.
	I mean, because, you know, in other parts of the world where there's a lot of famous old cool stuff like Syria, you know, we just rebelize that and nobody gives a crap.
	Oh, the best part was Iraq when we, the Sumerian tablets and all that.
	Hey, what is this clay?
	What is this crap?
	Let's get out of here.
	What is this clay?
	Time to clean up, kids.
	Sweep up the clay shards, people.
	This is no good.
	And the crazy thing is that what is happening right now, this global warming, making it very cold, is pretty much the exact script for the day after tomorrow.
	Do you remember this movie?
	No, I noticed that.
	When was this?
	Was this 2003 or 2004, I think, this movie came out?
	I don't know.
	Let's look it up.
	And the whole idea was, you had this professor, and he went to the United Nations.
	He said, oh, because the polar ice is melting, we're going to freeze down here.
	And everyone laughs at him.
	2004.
	Okay.
	Yeah, 10 years ago.
	Yeah.
	Hey, ten years have passed.
	Let's go with this script.
	I think not!
	Exactly.
	It is the script.
	It is the story.
	It is exactly the story.
	Except we do not see Grand Central Station under 500 feet of ice.
	But that's okay.
	Not yet, but stand by, baby.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on your agenda in the morning.
	We do have a few people to thank, and let's begin with Van Klitschka.
	Not Klitschko, Klitschka.
	Von Klitschka.
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	Thumbs up!
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	And he wants Naomi on the stage.
	We'll bring her out when we reopen the club, which is down for repairs, by the way.
	Oh, when is it expected to open up again, the club?
	I don't know.
	You know, the DJ thing fell over because it was poorly constructed.
	We had some Chinese guys come in from, and the welds didn't hold, and the whole thing fell apart, and now we've got to rebuild it with American labor.
	Oh, that'll be expensive.
	Yeah.
	Since there's nobody that can really do that job anymore.
	Dean Weisner in Lubbock, Texas.
	$111.11.
	He says it's time to show a little Valentine's Day love to the best podcast in the universe.
	Thank you.
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	He's got the 110.
	You want to give him a relationship karma on the fly here?
	Oh, for his possible future girlfriend, Megan?
	Really?
	Yeah, this guy needs help if he puts that in.
	Sounds like it.
	You've got karma.
	Okay.
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	She must own the town.
	Sherry, it's Sherry Draper.
	Sorry, Sherry.
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	By the way, I'm sorry, you just need to break for one second.
	Sherry Draper, you know who she is, don't you?
	No.
	She is the rain stick goddess.
	Oh, she's our rain stick woman, yeah.
	Yes!
	Oh, yeah, shake away, she says, rain stick Sherry.
	She wants a de-douching and some rain stick karma.
	Well, I'm sorry, I don't remember.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I'm sorry I screwed that up.
	I want to de-douche her and give her the...
	There you go.
	You've been de-douched.
	Well, Sherry, you truly are the magician because it's because of you California now has rain...
	And unfortunately, due to our poor skills, we were a little rusty.
	We flooded Ireland, but I'm sorry.
	Yeah, sorry, Sherry.
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	That's nice.
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	Did you call him on that thing he left in your box and grill him?
	We saw him the other day and we stopped for a quick chat and then as we were driving off, like, oh, completely forgot to ask him if he did the Hillary.
	I don't know.
	He's a mysterious guy.
	I don't know.
	Armando's mysterious.
	I think some things just best left unsaid.
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	Woo!
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	Oh, great.
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	Well, there's probably some trees there.
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	Sir Philip Meeson, sorry.
	Yeah.
	Who commonly sends us long notes to lecture us about the way we should treat the Christians.
	Okay.
	And we read everything anyone sends us, by the way.
	And Phillip is a very smart guy.
	Beverly Tanner at Whittier, California, is our last donor for today's show, 592.
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	Dvorak.org slash NA. Okay, here's what I got.
	I got Hunter Poolsma, who turned 22 on the 11th, and Britton Johnson, who wants to congratulate Thorin, who celebrated on Valentine's Day on the 14th.
	Happy birthday from all your friends here at The Best Podcast in the Universe.
	And even though it didn't quite show up on the spreadsheet as such, I'm just going to presume that Grant Seiner and the Kraut brothers have their accounting in order, John.
	If that's okay with you, I'd just like to do the knighting.
	I take their word for it.
	We haven't yet to see a criminal element amongst our producers.
	By the way, the Kraut brothers, I think we can elevate them to be the new Koch brothers.
	I like the idea.
	Because really, the Koch brothers is just a meme.
	Yeah, what do they do?
	Actually, most of their money goes to operations like PBS, ironically.
	Yeah, and if the Koch brothers were walking down the street, no one would recognize them.
	So why don't we just pretend the Kraut brothers are our Koch brothers.
	Okay.
	They're evil.
	The evil Kraut brothers.
	The evil Kraut brothers, yes.
	And they're funding our anti-science agenda.
	Yes.
	Science!
	Science!
	All right, grab your blade, John, because we've got two of these guys tonight.
	There you go.
	Perfect.
	All right, Kraft Brothers, step forward, both of you, and Grant Siner.
	All three of you have...
	Really supportive of the No Agenda show, best podcast in the universe, and we appreciate that.
	And welcome you to the Knight and Dame Roundtable.
	I hereby pronounce the Sir Grant Siner and Sir Knights of 89th and Bluegrass, the Evil Kraut Brothers.
	All of you here at the No Agenda Roundtable.
	For you, hookers and blow, red boys and chardonnay, Cuban cigars and single-mouth shots, hot pants and booze, long-head heavy metal guys, and whiskey and...
	Sparkling cider, escorts, mutton and mead.
	I've had too much of it.
	The bong hits in bourbon must be working on me.
	I go to knowledgeinthenation.com slash rings.
	And, of course, the evil Kraut brothers will each receive a ring, obviously, since they're in this together.
	Did you get a note from them, by the way, about the bread?
	What bread?
	Okay.
	I don't know.
	One of them is in the bread business.
	They're going to send you bread?
	Yeah.
	They offered you, too.
	I didn't see the note about bread.
	They make bread?
	They're bread makers?
	One of them's a bread guy.
	I don't think he's a...
	He's like a commercial bread guy.
	Like big bread guy.
	Big bread?
	I think big...
	It's like big ag.
	Like big data.
	Only big bread.
	Big data, big bread.
	Yeah.
	So he makes like...
	Balloon bread and those types of things.
	It's the evil Kraut brothers and their bread empire are funding our fossil fuel agenda.
	Yeah, obviously we're all in.
	Stooges for the fossil fuel industry.
	That's why we're so rich.
	Even though all we promote is nuclear, but that's beside the point.
	Hey, tell me about, in the newsletter you wrote something about the unions and the wages and the minimum wage, and you were going to bring that up on the show today, so I'm reminding you to do this.
	That's your fantastic setup?
	You didn't like it?
	That's okay.
	No, I thought one of the news items of the week that we didn't discuss much, I mean, especially when you compare it, play this clip because this compares the way unions go in the United States of America with the way they go in France.
	Play Uber in France.
	Okie dokie.
	Taxi drivers in France may have won their first fight in a long fight.
	The government has suspended new registrations for private chauffeur services like Uber.
	Paris made the decision until it finishes talks with unions representing taxi drivers who have been striking since Monday.
	The crucial stumbling block is taxis require a license that costs more than 200,000 euros, while private competitors have no fee.
	She had a little flub in there, by the way, that was interesting.
	I think it's under weird flub.
	Can you play that?
	Mm-hmm.
	Taxi drivers in France may have won their first fight in a long fight battle.
	Yeah, fight, fight, battle thing.
	This is like neuro-linguistic programming, but probably just a flub.
	I did follow...
	I signed up for Uber.
	I got the app.
	I've never used the service.
	JC, Buzzkill Jr., uses it daily.
	So I got the app, and then immediately I'm getting spam from them and news articles.
	And I did read about, I think a cab driver beat up an Uber driver or something.
	This happened weeks ago.
	This is not fresh.
	It happens.
	I think it may have been the Lyft guys, though, because the Lyft guys go around with that big pink mustache on their car.
	And they are slightly different, they're more visible, and they get harassed more because of the big pink mustache, but it's part of the, and this, it's a different system.
	When you go on Lyft, I wrote a column about this, because I was fascinated by it, because JC uses it.
	But when you go on Lyft, you have to be a conversationalist, and you, and the drivers...
	Oh, and so hold on, hold on, back up, but Lyft is an Uber-like service, because I have no idea what you're talking about.
	I think it, I think it was, I think it might even predate Uber.
	Hmm.
	Uber's a little more polished, a little more venture capital, a little slicker, a little better cars.
	Lyft is really pretty much anybody, and it has a different model.
	And you don't pay a fixed amount.
	You pay what you think the guy deserves.
	Oh, value for value.
	It's value for value.
	And so what happens, though, is that the Lyft drivers and you rate each other after the ride is over.
	So the Lyft drivers rate you as a customer.
	I believe in this.
	I think this is the future.
	No, this is the future.
	Puked in my car, smelled like crap, annoying, talked to me the whole time.
	Right, so you rate each other before you receive each other's ratings, too, so you can't lowball the guy.
	Right.
	And so he'll say, this guy stinks, and he's, you know, whatever, that you as the customer, or that you can say the guy's car was a piece of crap, and I would never be in it again.
	I give him one star.
	But you can get blackballed.
	You can, as a driver, get blackballed with too many of these negative reviews, and you can also get blackballed as a...
	Passenger.
	It's very interesting, and I think it's slightly more advanced in some ways, but Uber is more popular, and it's trying to go all over the world.
	So they go to France, and of course, this is where you will get beat up, because the French have these great unions in France.
	These taxi drivers didn't just go on strike.
	They went out to the main freeways, and just, you know, five across, just stopped dead.
	Right.
	A hundred deep.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	They know how to do that.
	We don't do that.
	We are so anti-union now in this country.
	And I was thinking about it because they had this VW plant that tried to go UAW, and the UAW is a dying union.
	I was a member of that union at least two different locals.
	Now, let's talk about what actually happened.
	So we'll just set this up for people around the world.
	So the United Auto Workers Union wanted to unionize at the Volkswagen plant in...
	Charlotte, I think.
	North Carolina.
	North Carolina or Arkansas.
	I can't remember exactly where.
	And what happened?
	In the South where they're generally anti-union.
	Okay.
	And they thought they were going to win, and without a lot of real pressure to make them vote no, they voted no anyway, and that was the end of it, because UAW's been trying to get all these so-called companies that come in, like Volkswagen comes in and builds a factory because it's cheaper, and Honda's got factories down there, Toyota's got factories, and so these import cars that you buy in the United States generally aren't really imported.
	The only thing imported is the factory.
	Well, the way I see it is that I've come to the conclusion, the only reason I wanted to bring this up was I think that unions have outlived their usefulness in this country.
	I think they work fine in socialist-oriented countries like France, where people actually get a job as a taxi driver, take it very seriously.
	They spend $200,000 for a license, and they do this for the rest of their lives.
	They're not trying to be, you know, in the United States, we're all thinking, ah, I'm going to quit and get some financing from venture capital, and I'm going to start myself a mud pie company.
	Yeah, yeah.
	We have all these outrageous dreams that have been kept alive by the BS in the media.
	I think the future for unions in the United States is over.
	I think they're all dead.
	And I think that the model is actually for success in terms of worker participation.
	And by participation, I mean have something to do with whether you like working or whether you have a job and you're being mismanaged by people.
	How do you deal with it if there's no union?
	I think the model in Silicon Valley, which is to just give you a piece of the company, so you're essentially read into the company, and if you get mismanaged, you have some sort of recourse as a part owner.
	I think that's totally the future, because the results of that model, that Silicon Valley model, where everybody gets a piece of the action, It has people working 16 hours a day.
	It's outrageous because of the carrot at the end of the stick.
	And that just seems like the future in so many ways.
	I've never seen anything work like that.
	That works so well.
	And you're part of that system.
	I am?
	Well, you were in startups and you've seen these guys kill themselves on the front lines for the employee.
	Well, so yes, I agree to a certain extent.
	I think the startup culture, which is a Ponzi scheme, Totally.
	And you are, of course, you're projecting on your own family, so you see Buzzkill Jr.
	busting his ass 20 hours, 16 hours a day.
	And yes, he's in a startup, so he has a piece of the Ponzi scheme.
	But once this level moves up, i.e.
	they're bought by somebody, which would usually be a Google...
	That's pretty much what everyone's looking for, and that's what the angel investors and even the A-round investors get in for, is for that big pop.
	Everyone after that is slave, but gets slave wages and you get this big promise of options.
	Ha ha ha ha!
	Yes, take these options.
	They'll be worth something someday.
	And when you leave, you got to buy them.
	So it's a Ponzi scheme and a scam.
	And I actually like what you were talking about, the Lyft model.
	That, I believe, is the future.
	The problem with all these companies is the company itself.
	It's the same with Patreon, this value for value for the arts.
	Everything about it is right except for the fact that there's a company in the middle.
	That's the one thing that is unnecessary.
	I'm sorry, say that again, that everything is right, but what?
	Except for the company that's running the service.
	There's no reason we have to have companies that are going to take all this money and essentially take the value to enrich themselves.
	There's no reason.
	If you run it like a co-op, what do you need when it comes to infrastructure to run Uber, really?
	It's server infrastructure.
	That's a co-op thing.
	But instead, they're creating all the value and keeping that for themselves.
	I love the mutual reputation systems.
	And there will not be a single person who doesn't buy a car in the future.
	Well, there will be people, but I'm pretty sure you and I, John, will buy cars based upon the model that this thing is sitting there 70% of the time, and I'd be happy for people to use my car and pay me for it, as long as I know who they are and I can check up on the reputation system.
	But this whole idea that that has to be a company every single time, that's monetizing the network, and it's proven time and time again.
	It's limited, and it works great for the big scams, the GeoCities, the AOLs, the Facebooks, the Twitters.
	They will go away, every single one of them.
	MySpace.
	Well, no, I'm going to...
	I can't disagree with this because this is a basic thesis of yours that has never wavered.
	And I can see where you're coming from with this again.
	And I have to agree because I think a better example of that is something extremely successful that doesn't really need any sort of centric corporate entity is LinkedIn.
	LinkedIn.
	Yeah, you mean saying LinkedIn doesn't really need to have a central system or a central company?
	No, I don't see.
	I mean, I know what they're doing.
	They're the ones that created the network and then they created this.
	But why?
	I mean, why can't that be an open source thing just like you're describing for everything else?
	Well, and this is why when you have a system like RSS that these companies set out to destroy it.
	This is why Google turned off Google Reader.
	Because they saw the writing on the wall.
	Hold on a second.
	Everybody poops an RSS feed out of everything these days.
	We have to stop this.
	That could route around us being the connector.
	That's exactly what that was about.
	That's why Twitter doesn't support RSS feeds anymore.
	That's why Facebook barely, they had some little support.
	They are shunning, but even worse, they get their corporate shills, Mike Arrington, and all of CNET. You Google, RSS is dead.
	Because these people are maybe even paid, I don't know, to go out and say, oh, that's dead.
	Oh, it's all dead.
	Of course, it's a fun thing to say in tech land.
	It's dead.
	Yeah, that's fun.
	And that was a concerted effort to kill it.
	And we will have to somehow come up with whatever we have to do.
	Okay, I just went to it.
	The number one, RSS is dead.
	I went and just Googled it.
	TechCrunch has the first two articles.
	RSS is dead.
	Question mark is for percussion.com.
	Never heard of them.
	Digital Trend has it.
	But they're talking more about the Google thing failing and it being alive.
	It didn't fail.
	Why RSS still matters is The Verge, so there's some fighting going on.
	It didn't fail.
	It got shut down.
	How can that have failed for Google?
	No, that's what Google said.
	Right.
	It failed.
	Unlike, what, YouTube is making them so much money?
	No.
	No, no, no.
	This is a concerted effort, and I believe eventually, in the long run, They will not prevail.
	But as long as we're teaching children non-keyboard, shiny, touch and swipe tablet consumption devices, yeah, it's going to be difficult.
	But I've really turned my social network as much more email now, and somehow the idea of hashtags and the subject line really stuck with people.
	They're really using that a lot.
	It was funny about that.
	If you remember when that first showed up, Twitter was dead set against the idea.
	It wasn't something they dreamed of.
	Exactly.
	Even the retweet, RT, even that was a user-developed thing.
	But if I just look at my email right now, I have number two, hashtag SnowdenEffect, third email, hashtag Africa, hashtag NGO. Then I have six, hashtag Turkey.
	So what's happening is because people are used to the idea of a hashtag, I'm finally getting descriptive subjects in my email, and email is a beautiful social network.
	You know, I can block people.
	I can put them in the spam bucket.
	I can auto-reply.
	I can do all kinds of really interesting things.
	Yeah, it's work and a lot of it's mixed up, but at least no one owns me.
	I don't know how we got from there to unions, but you're right.
	I don't know either.
	It was a very well done series of segues.
	Somehow we talk about bitching about RSS being not dead.
	I have one more thing I want to bring up, just I thought was interesting.
	Okay.
	This is the...
	Because, as you know, and most of the listeners who have listened to the show for a while know that my thinking is that by 2020 there'll be a civil war in the EU... Which will result in the same old, same old battle between Germany and France.
	Would you mind if we just move that to 2030, just to propagate our 2030 club?
	Oh, for the purposes of our gimmick, yes.
	Yeah, just make it 2030.
	And that also gives you a little bit of room.
	Well, I could say that there'll be a skirmish in 2020 because something's going to happen.
	And then the World War, the big one, because the First World War was just like an opening salvo in the big one.
	Ten years later, it happened.
	It works fine.
	So by 2030, yes.
	German Roots of Descent.
	This is the beginning of the end.
	Is this a clip I'm supposed to look for?
	Yeah, it says German Roots of Descent.
	Oh, yes, I see it.
	I'm sorry.
	I saw it.
	I got it here.
	Who gave me the name Anna and who didn't want to be identified told me how grateful she is for the help the food bank provides.
	I have everything here.
	Eggs, even fish, bread.
	The little things make a big difference.
	The money I get from the state goes to keep the power on.
	At most I have 150 euros a month.
	I'm very happy to have this because of this I can buy clothes and live.
	Some of those receiving handouts accuse Germany's politicians of caring more for wider Europe than the German people.
	We're part of Europe.
	We help you.
	Why don't you help us?
	We have hungry kids, but the government says we should help immigrants.
	Take more of them.
	We have to close the open door.
	Charity organisers say that they've seen a change in the demographic of those coming to them for help.
	We've noticed an increase of older people, which is unbelievable for us.
	Traditionally, old people in Germany wouldn't ask for free food.
	Now they have no alternative, so we see more people whose need has become stronger than shame.
	Yeah, this is happening everywhere across Europe.
	Yeah, and this is thanks to Bill Maher, by the way.
	Oh?
	So, well, he's just a jerk.
	So, going back, this is the overriding situation in Germany, is this clip, which is Germans on welfare, and the numbers are kind of interesting.
	Business is booming in Germany, but under the surface, there's a surprising number of people failing to get anything from it.
	We still have six million people on long-term unemployment benefits.
	That means almost one in ten households live on welfare.
	In fact, figures from the German Office of National Statistics and Eurostat show that just over 16% of Germans are at risk of falling into poverty.
	Compare that to the situation in France, the Czech Republic or the Netherlands, and you see that more people can potentially slip through the safety net in Europe's economic powerhouse.
	This has seen more and more Germans turning to charities for help.
	This food distribution center...
	Yeah, we're seeing this in the Netherlands as well.
	The food banks, it's really the big thing.
	It's where people are just going to get food.
	Yeah.
	There seems to be an epidemic throughout the EU. But the numbers, at least that they presented on this report...
	Which I think was on RT, but it may have been on VanCat.
	I'm not sure.
	So they're really looking at a 14% to 15% unemployment rate.
	Every 1 in 10.
	Something like that.
	Maybe even higher.
	A rate of about 16 maybe.
	So what happens?
	What happens when...
	So we have all of Europe...
	The real unemployment, if you're looking at the...
	Let's just...
	We'd say youth unemployment would be 40-50% in some countries.
	In Germany, too, is pretty high.
	So what...
	I mean, this can't be hard to look at and predict nothing but darkness.
	What is going to happen?
	Is this because we have the industrial period is over and we just have a bunch of people who don't fit in with the new hipster model?
	I mean, what is going to happen?
	Where are the jobs going to come from for these people?
	They're not.
	So then we need to have a war.
	Yeah.
	That is what the elites have always done.
	Yeah, they've got to wipe these people out.
	Because they've already restructured the whole world, essentially, so all the manufacturing is in China, in parts of Mexico, and here and there.
	I mean, it's scattered around.
	But China's the one who's got the fancy factories that can really crank stuff out.
	I mean, they're astonishing.
	But you have all these.
	There's no more factories.
	There's no more work.
	I always reminisce.
	I tell stories about when I worked at a factory.
	I worked at a bunch of factories.
	When I was in school and when I was in high school, I had summer jobs.
	I'd come out with a lot of money.
	Kids were buying cars with their own money because of what they could do in the summertime.
	We saved our money.
	And you could do all that, but you can't do any of that now, and you can't lecture people about it, and you can't listen to right-wing talk shows.
	Oh, go get a job!
	Go get a job doing what?
	McDonald's, you have to wait in line to get a job there, and that's all you're doing is taking the lowest possible wage.
	You're not making anything at that place when you were just to work at a factory and make real money.
	I hear Costco is a great place to work.
	Costco, right.
	That's what the president said.
	Go to work trying to get a job at Costco.
	You can't do it.
	Good luck, yeah.
	Well, then I would say the only other way to do it is we have to have some kind of pandemic.
	We have to kill people in another way.
	Well, they've tried to do that with the slipping in the bird flu.
	Remember that one?
	That's my favorite.
	Well, here's one.
	So this is a report.
	The Lancet.
	I would say the Lancet is, when it comes to...
	Medical information is highly regarded.
	Lancet.
	Is it called Lancet?
	I said Lancet?
	Yeah, the Lancet.
	Lancet.
	The Lancet.
	This is what everyone points to when they say vaccines are safe and...
	Correct?
	The Lancet.
	Am I wrong or...
	Do you know anything about the...
	The Lancet is one of the great medical journals, yes.
	Thank you.
	Okay.
	New report which came out on February 15th.
	Neurobehavioral Effects of Developmental Toxicity.
	And I have this report in the show notes, 592.nashownotes.com.
	In 2006, they did a systematic review and identified five industrial chemicals as developmental neurotoxins.
	We proselyte that people should never be exposed to these.
	These chemicals should not be presumed safe to brain development.
	At any time.
	These include, I'm going to try and read some of these, lead, obviously, methylmercury, polychlorinated biphenyls, arsenic, and toluene.
	Since 2006, epidemic...
	Epidemiologists.
	Epidemiological studies have documented six additional developmental neurotoxicants.
	So these are six additional ones that you should not have anywhere near you.
	They include manganese, chloropyrifose, dichlorodiphenyl trictolophtholatine, two others I can't pronounce, and fluoride.
	Oh.
	And what do we see here on the first thing that we see in the news regarding fluoride?
	Yeah.
	I'm going.
	Finally this week, some new advice for parents.
	The American Dental Association says that a tiny bit of fluoride toothpaste should be used to brush kids' baby teeth as soon as they come in.
	John, I think a lot of parents normally try to avoid this because they're worried their little kids might swallow this.
	So why did the ADA make the change?
	To kill them.
	That's why.
	To kill these little children.
	Give them fluoride!
	Because it turns out that a lot of kids are getting cavities.
	40% of school kids.
	And the more cavities you have as a kid, the more likely you are to have cavities as a grown-up.
	Which is also absolutely not true.
	It's behavioral.
	It's not medical.
	They are literally promoting a neurotoxin that hurts your brain as per The Lancet.
	Promoting that for two-year-olds.
	Yeah, that's probably not a good thing.
	No!
	I find it fascinating.
	And this has to be part of the idea.
	But we can't.
	The war is messy.
	Why don't we just poison the kids?
	Just poison them to death.
	You know, the thing is, it's going to be developmental, so the kid's still going to grow up, he's just going to be dumb.
	Which makes it easier to kill him in a war, but I think that there's going to have to be some...
	It's just, it seems like, you know, it's kind of insincere.
	It's an insincere attempt, you mean?
	This is a big...
	There's nothing...
	Unless they come up with something...
	I don't know how you can do it.
	There's no jobs.
	No.
	There's not.
	All the countries that have done...
	Kind of eking through this economic situation are doing it through financial services and services.
	You know, service industries and all that sort of thing.
	I mean, around here, yeah, there are...
	A moderate amount of industrial operations here and there.
	I mean, there's paint mixing place down the street.
	Bayer's got a facility in Berkeley.
	They still make a lot of stuff here and there.
	It's small.
	I think there's going to be a lot of craftsmanship stuff that will keep people busy.
	There's stuff like completely offbeat new media stuff that we're doing.
	Right, right, right.
	Which is not even on the list of things to do for anybody.
	And, yeah, no, it's going to be a huge war, and it's going to take place in Europe.
	And you're thinking same actors, Germany, and the rest?
	Germany and France.
	France.
	Really?
	It's going to be interesting to see how it breaks down, because, you know, you always end up with the British getting involved because they can't keep out of anything, and so they'll get involved with the French, and then the Germans, because they're more talented at this sort of thing, they'll start kicking their ass, and we're going to have to get involved to save it.
	Or there's going to be all these other countries, and I don't know what the Russians are going to do.
	I know they're freaked out about everything, so they...
	If we believe in Smedley Butler's War is a Racket, Then this is the only logical way to go.
	Because that's how money gets created.
	Industry comes back and everything.
	It takes a while and it's messy.
	I'm going to have to get a clip of this or do a scan it or something.
	But in one of William Manchester's books, where he discusses the beginning, mostly it's about Roosevelt, and he discusses the beginnings of World War II, And he has stats on how many planes and ships we had and then how our manufacturing cranked up and then what it was like two years later.
	Right.
	It makes your hair stand on end.
	How we went from this kind of funky country that was, ah, whatever, into the, you know, we don't even want to get involved.
	Europe's a bunch of a-holes.
	We don't want to deal with them.
	To this incredible machine.
	I think stinky a-holes was what we said.
	The smelly.
	Stinky a-holes.
	And it was like, wow, you've got to see these numbers.
	I'll dig that up.
	How about the Middle East will be rubbleized.
	How about Africa?
	Will we do anything?
	Can we not just make war in Africa and build that up?
	There's no fun.
	Yeah, that's right.
	Making war in Africa does not really solve Europe's problem.
	Here's the good news.
	This is for the book club.
	After the war, there's lots of fun stuff we can do with science.
	Does America owe its edge in military technology to Nazi war criminals brought here after World War II? An important new book shows that while part of our technical edge was homegrown, part came from some 1,600 Nazi scientists who tried to win the war for Adolf Hitler.
	Operation Paperclip explores the secret military program that hired scientists who used slave labor to build the V2 rocket and others who used concentration camp victims for human experiments.
	For more, I'm joined here in New York by Annie Jacobson.
	She's the author of Operation Paperclip, the secret intelligence program that brought Nazi scientists to America.
	Annie, such a thought-provoking book.
	You start at the end of World War II, when of course Americans and Russians are rushing towards Berlin, and there's a different race going on, trying to get a hold of these Nazi scientists.
	Yes, we were after what were called ABC weapons, atomic, biological, and chemical.
	Woo!
	I think we nailed it.
	This is good.
	This is the first kind of mainstream publication that I've heard about recently of Operation Paperclip.
	Yeah, it's getting back in the news for some reason.
	I'm not sure why.
	Movie?
	We're just getting geared up.
	We're trying to get the right mindset.
	We've already militarized the United States of America by making everyone go through a rigmarole just before any sort of athletic event where you stand up and you salute the flag and then there's a flyover.
	And don't forget the satellite of the troops.
	Satellite shot of the troops in Kandahar.
	Satellite, and they're all waving.
	And now the most recent thing is they've gone from, in baseball games, they start off with the militaristic, which is recent, by the way.
	People should look into this.
	They weren't doing this around 1920.
	So they have the national anthem.
	And then on the seventh inning stretch where they used to play and take a break for a minute or two where they refurbish the infield with some scrapers, they used to sing Take Me Out to the Ball Game.
	It was a tradition.
	They've dropped that in most parks now, and they sing America the Beautiful.
	So they added a second element of militarism into the baseball game, which is supposed to be just something you sit in, something that you laze around watching, which I found was a little distressing.
	And you see that a lot, America the Beautiful.
	There's no reason for this.
	We don't need to be listening to the same two songs excessively.
	You want to do a clip blitz to get out of here, or are you done?
	Where are you at?
	Well, if you want to hear something, here's...
	Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	We've got to set it up, right?
	I mean, let's do it.
	Red 33!
	Clip blitz!
	Yeah!
	Unreported news, Bahrain still going strong.
	Uh-oh, Bahrain.
	A string of violent protests by Shia Muslims in Bahrain marking the third anniversary of the uprising against the Sunni government.
	Several injured, over a dozen detained as police used tear gas.
	The unrest that began in February 2011 has been violently suppressed with rather a lot of help coming in from the ruling Maliki's Gulf allies.
	I think we should do like Libya.
	Do a no-fly zone and go get those Bahrainians.
	This has been going on forever.
	It never gets reported in the U.S. media, but it's been going on forever.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	It's back and forth.
	Oh, okay.
	It's not just all you.
	Man.
	Red 33! Red 33! Clip blitz!
	Clip blitz!
	Syria!
	It's been a week where there was some rare good news.
	Food and medicine finally went in to the besieged old quarter of Homs.
	And more than 1,000 people were brought out during a temporary truce between rebel fighters and the government.
	But resolving Syria's deep humanitarian crisis needs a political solution.
	That helped push the warring parties to attend peace talks in Geneva.
	But the second round ended today in complete failure.
	Woohoo!
	Failure!
	Failure!
	Everything's failed!
	I wonder why Carrie's not out there saying, hey, I suck.
	Sorry.
	Didn't work.
	I mean, remember now that the chemical weapons apparently were all going to be gone, and you had the Geneva 1 protocol, which called for Assad to step down.
	Then they came back for Geneva 2 protocol, and then the guy said, well, but this is based on 1, which means you still have to go.
	And then Assad said, but hold on, I gave up my weapons.
	Why do I have to go?
	And now it's all failed again.
	So the rubbleization continues.
	Exactly.
	Red 33!
	Red 33!
	Southern Bulgaria hit it.
	All righty.
	To southern Bulgaria, where far-right protesters clash with police after besieging a mosque.
	Over a hundred demonstrators arrested after hurling rocks and bottles at security forces and smashing the building's windows.
	Local anger was sparked by a decision to reopen the site as an active place of worship.
	It had been used for secular purposes since the country became communist in 1944.
	Yeah.
	Bulgaria, let's put it on the list of countries to watch.
	Rebelization list?
	Rebelization has begun.
	Red 33!
	Facebook kills.
	Well, what started for some as a drinking game has already begun to claim lives.
	Four victims so far, all young men.
	The premise of the game, called Nick Nominate, is simple.
	Someone films themselves down in a large drink and posts the video on social media.
	After that, they nominate a friend to outdo them, and if the nominee doesn't respond, they are ridiculed on their Facebook wall or on Twitter.
	Bullied!
	Bullied!
	It's very difficult in their personal liberties to say that Facebook shouldn't be condoning this.
	It should be taking these videos offline.
	Personally, I'd like to see that happening because, frankly, if the thrill wasn't there because your mates weren't seeing you, I suspect it would very rapidly fizzle out.
	I think this is another part of a fine campaign.
	You hook them up with the fluoride early on.
	Then you get them to drink themselves into a stupor in their teens.
	Then you get them on the meds and get them to OD on heroin in their 30s.
	Who needs more?
	It's too little too late.
	All right.
	One more.
	My favorite clip is this one.
	Bart cops at work.
	Okay.
	And what Bart is admitting tonight.
	Kristen?
	Yeah, BART's police chief telling us today that the officer who tased a man on the train here at San Bruno Bar Station was doing his job.
	New cell phone video shows it up close.
	The BART officer warns a man of what he is about to do and then...
	He tases him.
	It happened the night of January 29th.
	Someone called BART police to complain that this man was drunk and harassing riders.
	When an officer tracks the man down on the train, he repeatedly asks him to get off.
	Get off the train!
	Get off the train, sir!
	The man, who has now been identified as Robert Asbury, doesn't listen, so he's tased once.
	And minutes later, when he's on the ground again for five full seconds.
	I'll tase him again!
	Taser, taser, taser!
	As you saw in the video, the officer was extremely patient.
	BART's police chief admitted today that the officer who did the tasing is fairly new, but he defended the officer's actions, saying even the second tasing seemed reasonable.
	I saw the subject still kicking, struggling with the officer.
	We also showed the video to Don Cameron, a former BART police officer who is now a tactical trainer.
	I think both tasings were appropriate, simply because they couldn't be handcuffed if you wouldn't listen.
	You don't listen to me!
	You don't listen!
	It's appropriate for me to shoot electricity through you!
	...board the train that day do not agree.
	In the video, they can be heard telling the officer that Asbury did nothing wrong.
	The one who was sitting next to him insisted Asbury was harmless.
	He should have complied.
	But San Francisco resident Benito Taylor told us that does not justify what the officer did next.
	I don't think the second tase was necessary.
	The guy was already in pain.
	He was down.
	All right, all right, all right.
	I love that we will have the entire world go into a tizzy over some zoo that killed a giraffe or some stray dogs that are going to be picked up.
	And everyone's all freaking out.
	But, oh, I think, you know, one tase was okay.
	You know, maybe the second one.
	I think it was a valid tasing.
	I think it was all right.
	Shoot some electricity through that guy with hooks, with metal hooks.
	Shh!
	Into his skin?
	You know, I think that's okay.
	Taser, taser, taser!
	Wow.
	That, by the way...
	The reason I like that clip is because the guy was barking at the guy like the TSA people used to bark at you that you always bitched about.
	Yeah, but this is the next step.
	This was not patience.
	This was not patience.
	Get off the train, sir!
	Yeah, this is the next step.
	Put your laptop in the thing!
	I'm going to tase you!
	Take your shoes off!
	No liquids!
	No liquids!
	Taser, taser, taser!
	Shelter in place!
	Cower in the corner!
	Well, luckily, those of you listening to this program are going to stop that because you can stand there and just laugh.
	Taser, taser, taser.
	Yeah, you can just stand there and just laugh and everything will be fine.
	And you know that you're just...
	The whole idea is to just terrorize you.
	And go forth after this podcast and realize that you cannot be terrorized.
	They cannot do it to you.
	Because you see the humor.
	You see the...
	You gotta admit, it's humorous.
	It's very funny.
	In a sick way.
	Yeah, it is.
	For the sick world.
	Yeah.
	Taser, taser, taser!
	Yeah, you're not listening, sir.
	Wow.
	Hi, I don't know where to leave you with experienced North Korea or the Snowden accomplices.
	I'm not sure.
	I'm a little torn.
	Maybe I'll do both.
	Hit the boat off and we'll finish up.
	All right.
	So go to experiencenorthkorea.com.
	This is our producer.
	More of my thesis.
	Yes, exactly.
	Our producer, Tony, he says he was in Shanghai.
	And there is a...
	Let's see.
	He went to a bar with his South Korean friend.
	And he says these flyers were all over this restaurant or this bar in Shanghai.
	And it's experiencenorthkorea.com.
	And there's big tours.
	And by the way, it's all in English.
	There's no Mandarin, so they're not going after the Chinese market.
	They're going after the American market or English-speaking market.
	Wow, this is getting good.
	Yeah.
	I want to see that parade, that big thing they do once a year.
	That's got to be just worth the price of admission.
	I'm going.
	So this is Pyongyang Marathon 2014.
	Well, the banner on the homepage has that whole...
	What are the tours?
	They have something that...
	Let's see.
	Is there anything...
	Okay, we can go to Pyongyang and Surroundings, which you get to visit three most important cities of the country, get to understand the country and its society, Observe their way of life.
	Or you can do a week in the past, which is €1,900.
	Live a unique experience.
	Explore the world's most hermetic country.
	Visit the country under the purest communism.
	And then you can do Pyongyang, the capital of communism.
	That's three days and two nights.
	This is going to cost about a grand for some of these things.
	You probably could do this trip for about $1,000 if you can get there.
	But I'd like to congratulate you, and I think you can pull this out.
	I mean, it's fact.
	You were right on.
	North Korea wants to be a tourist destination, and they're marketing.
	They're actually marketing.
	They're out there getting the word out.
	I think it's really good.
	It's fantastic.
	I can probably put this back about four years when I first bitched and moaned about wanting to drink Bordeaux.
	And after I saw the Vice thing, and they had all these tourist things, even though they were all empty...
	You don't set up a big tourist attraction because you just want to keep it empty.
	You want to bring tourists in.
	I bet it's a beautiful country.
	I bet it's beautiful.
	Oh, it's untouched?
	Yeah.
	They say on this website, isn't it the last frontier or something?
	Yeah, there'd be no billboards, horrible McDonald's signs.
	There's no McDonald's, let's face it.
	There's no jack-in-the-box.
	There will be 10 years from now, but right now it's probably pristine.
	Experience North Korea.
	The untouched final frontier.
	This is great.
	This is beautiful.
	So everyone can enjoy that.
	And then we had a little bit of an argument about this.
	It appears the accomplices everyone was referring to regarding Edward J. Snowden, known to many in Congress as Edwin or Eric.
	That's how our Congress is paying attention.
	Looks like the accomplices are being targeted and we'll hear about who they are soon.
	...this February 10th memo from the National Security Agency to members of Congress detailing to some great extent what they believe now has happened.
	And what they're saying to Congress is there was an NSA civilian who Snowden apparently got...
	To enter his, the civilian's password, into computers Snowden was using.
	The person did not know, of course, he says that Snowden was going to steal information from the NSA databases, enters his password, and Snowden, unbeknownst to him, is able to capture that password and use it.
	That civilian, who is not identified now, It has left the employment of the NSA. The NSA says that it has informed the Justice Department of all of this.
	No information about what will happen next.
	The memo, pretty tantalizing because it also says there is a contractor and an active duty member of the U.S. military also caught up in all of this.
	But the NSA is saying it's going to leave it to their employers to deal with it.
	More to come.
	All of this, of course, a massive security violation, and it begins to explain how some of this happened.
	Yes, and I think it starts to put the strategy into clearer view of calling Snowden a thief by saying he didn't have access to this.
	He stole the documents.
	So this is a very different legal scenario that has completely been set up.
	Right, and that also puts your buddy Glenn Green balls into a bind because he's...
	Big bind.
	Now he truly is a fence of stolen material.
	You're absolutely right.
	So we both win.
	Beautiful.
	We both win.
	And it's a setup.
	Beautiful.
	It's a setup, though.
	It's so obvious because first we have...
	Douchebag Rogers trying to get Comey, the FBI guy who's new, let's face it, to say, yes, if you are a whistleblower and you stole a dress, then you're a thief.
	If you're a whistleblower but you stole the documents, then you are a thief, and if you sell those documents, you are fencing.
	So it's a very specific difference between having access to the documents and saying, whoa, this is wrong what's going on, or stealing the documents, then that will put Snowden outside of the whistleblower category and place him firmly into the thief category.
	Well, it changes a lot of premises because Snowden was always sold to the American public as a guy who had access, and it was scandalous that he had access, and now that he didn't have access and he just stole a password and went in, this changes the whole thing.
	This is going to take a lot of work to straighten this out.
	I think it's so clear that you can set this up.
	It's easy to get some other civilian to say, yeah, I know I gave that to him, and some other active member of the DOD. Yeah, yeah.
	You can find some stooge to do that.
	Well, okay.
	I think we've gone too long.
	Dude, we've gone way too long.
	This will be back in the conversation, I'm sure.
	I think that's going to be one of the major focus eyes of the coming week.
	Probably.
	It's funny that mainstream media hasn't picked up on this North Korea thing.
	Again.
	The experience North Korea trips?
	Yeah.
	It's dynamite.
	Yes, perfect.
	There's that interest that Vice Magazine used through China, I think, was the way to go, because you get your documents right there on the spot.
	Right, and you're good to go.
	Well, yeah, although they seem to be steering clear of all things China, which is interesting.
	I'm not sure.
	Not sure.
	Yeah, that's weird too.
	Well, we'll figure it out.
	Figure it out and take the visit.
	We're definitely going to do our best.
	And we will continue to do that for you on Thursday when we come back on the best podcast in the universe.
	Remember us at dvorak.org slash na as we move closer towards episode 600.
	You can become a special executive producer.
	Coming to you from FEMA Region 6 here in Austin, Texas.
	Capital of the Drone Star State in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where the motto is, taser, taser, taser, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll be back on Thursday right here on No Agenda.
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