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	Ah, you do what you gotta do.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, January 2nd, 2013.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, episode 579.
	This is No Agenda.
	Mentoring mouth hitters from sea to shining sea.
	From FEMA Region 6 to Travis Heights, high out in Austin, Tay House in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley, without further ado, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Craig Vaughn and Buzzkill in the morning.
	Yeah, that's right, John.
	It is a brand new year, a brand new month.
	Happy New Year to you.
	Happy National Mentoring Month 2014.
	Happy New Year to everyone out there listening to the stream, the show on the podcast, the downloads, and everything thereafter.
	And it is National Mentoring Month.
	It's National Internet Month?
	No, National Mentoring Month.
	Oh, Mentoring.
	Yes.
	Sorry, Twitter makes so much noise.
	Hold on a second.
	Tell us about National Mentoring Month while I see why it's printing so many pages.
	All right, well, this is by Presidential Proclamation.
	And, as you know, America is at its best when we lift each other up, when we peruse over individual goals while never forgetting that we are bound as one nation and as one people.
	If we carry this spirit forward, if we take responsibility for our future leaders and give them the tools to succeed, America's best days will always lie ahead.
	Now, therefore, I, Barack Obama, President of the United States of America, by virtue of the authority vested in me by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, do hereby proclaim January 2014 as National Mentoring Month.
	And I call upon public officials, business and community leaders, educators, podcasters, and Americans across the country to observe this month with appropriate ceremonies, activities, and programs.
	It actually says podcasters?
	Of course it doesn't.
	But, I mean, what's the difference?
	Well, I'm just saying, I thought it could.
	Public officials, business and community leaders, educators?
	I don't know about the leaders part.
	We're certainly Americans across the country.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	But it's not just national, and I think we do, we do mentor, so I'm happy about that.
	That's good.
	It's also...
	Yeah, it's been a number of people.
	Yeah, we have so many successful spin-offs of our podcast.
	Yeah, we're doing great.
	And it is also National Slavery and Human Trafficking Prevention Month 2014, yet again.
	Every year, every month, every day, human trafficking prevention.
	No, only once a month, only once a year, for one month and one month a month.
	It's okay.
	Yeah.
	And once again, the No Agenda show is right in the sweet spot.
	We totally try to prevent people from being slaves.
	Exactly.
	More than anyone.
	We work very hard on this.
	Because modern day slavery is a global tragedy.
	Actually, combating it.
	Would that be with two Ts or one T? Combating it.
	I think it's one.
	Okay, because it looks weird.
	It makes you want to say combating it.
	But yeah, okay, combating it requires international action.
	The United States is shining a spotlight on the dark corners where it persists, such as the United States.
	Right there in your own community, in your own home, placing sanctions on some of the worst abusers like the United States government.
	Giving countries incentives to meet their responsibilities and partnering with groups that help trafficking victims escape from their abusers' grip.
	We are working with other nations as they step up their own efforts, and we are seeing more countries pass anti-human trafficking laws and improve enforcement.
	Please pay no attention to the three million people incarcerated working for almost free in our prison system.
	Which is a form of human trafficking, if you want to take it to an end.
	And slavery, yes.
	And it is National Stalking Awareness Month!
	That's right, every January we draw attention to a crime that will affect one in six American women at some point in their lives.
	Although young women are disproportionately at risk, anyone can be a victim of stalking, regardless of age, sex, background, and gender identity.
	Yeah, that's a fact.
	Yeah.
	And I guess while we're at it, I'll say hi to the hunger strikers outside of City Hall here in Austin, Texas.
	What's going on in Austin that they're striking?
	There's a hunger strike.
	I posted about it on the blog, blog.curry.com.
	Day three, I believe now, for these gentlemen, they are on hunger strike until Austin stops fluoridating its water.
	Oh.
	All right.
	I didn't know they fluoridated their water.
	Isn't that nuts that you have this lovey-dovey rainbow and unicorn town, and everything is all healthy and perfect and green, yet they toss all this fluoride in our water?
	I've always found that to be peculiar.
	Yeah, well, you know, there's a lot of peculiar stuff going on.
	I want to, if we could talk about the new year, I want to...
	We have, of course, every town has one, but they make it a big deal, so there's only one.
	The first baby born...
	Which I think was born, at least in our area, two seconds after midnight, by a woman that was either.
	Oh, I forgot about that.
	You've actually, you watched some mainstream news or television.
	I did.
	I completely hadn't, not only did I not see it, I hadn't heard, I didn't even think about it.
	Yeah, well, this one I think was an MKUltraMom.
	Oh.
	Because she had a message.
	Wait a minute, wait a minute, hold on a second.
	Where's John C. Dvorak?
	Who are you?
	You're an imposter.
	Did you just say an MKUltra mom?
	She sounded weird and she had a message to tell us about what the year is going to be like.
	I reprised it at the end so we understand what 2014 is all about.
	She's still on the 31st, so we always knew it could be a December or January birthday, and we didn't know which year what she was going to be either, so lots of surprises, so lots of surprises, so lots of surprises.
	It's funny because I have some audio from the first baby born dad.
	This is really, that's creepy how we do those clips.
	Here's the dad.
	Someone's getting corn-holed today.
	Sounds like a recipe for success to me.
	Actually, that was the sister of mom.
	Your favorite clip.
	It might as well start off to your right.
	Yeah, it might as well.
	It's interesting, actually.
	The chat room is all excited as we stream this program live twice a week, Thursdays and Sundays, 9 a.m.
	Gitmo Nation West time.
	The chat room is all like, hey, John ended the year liking the chat room.
	They're all excited that they're back in your good graces again.
	Because we benefited from their input on the last show.
	Yeah, and you got really nice on them.
	I said they did a great job.
	They did.
	They dug up the thing in solid time.
	The whole thing worked out fine.
	It happens.
	Until they turn on us again.
	Until they turn on us again.
	Which will be probably during this show.
	It was interesting.
	Well, let me ask you first.
	I might as well say Happy New Year, John.
	What did you do for the New Year's?
	Did you ring it in with family and alcoholic beverages?
	We rang it in up in Port Angeles with family and some champagne.
	Very nice.
	We did the same.
	We had champagne and Miss Mickey made blinis.
	And we were in bed at 11.30.
	Well, Buzzkill Jr.
	has the flu, so he slept right through the New Year's.
	No, we decided we were going to go to bed early, and we were actually asleep by 1130.
	We got up early on the 1st of January, started the New Year off with a nice nature hike.
	We went to Hamilton Pools, and that was really refreshing.
	To, you know, not start off with a hangover or, you know, anything.
	Just boom!
	You were asleep at midnight?
	Yes, sir.
	Yes, sir.
	Yeah.
	Like a guy tied in the military.
	Yes, sir.
	My bed was made.
	Is there anybody here that's in charge?
	Yes, sir.
	Yes, sir.
	I love it.
	When someone asks me something in a store on the street, and it's automatic, and I know it comes from my upbringing, but I say, yes, ma'am.
	You can see, particularly when women younger than I... Yeah, they give you the stink eye.
	I know, and I'm like, yes, ma'am.
	And they look at me like, what do I look like?
	I'm 70?
	I'm sorry, it just pops out.
	I can't help it.
	It's just what happens.
	I'm sorry, Buzzkill Jr., you're so sick.
	This is the flu, man.
	Now, of course, I had the flu, and a couple days maybe I just had to lay down, but they're really pouring it on big time now.
	And instead of just saying, hey, why don't you get the flu, like I had the swine flu, you'll recall, in 2009.
	And it didn't kill me.
	And now that, you know, I probably caught the swine flu again, as Texas is orange on the map of flu.
	Yeah, you know, you guys are the target.
	Do you know that every year between 50 and 200 Rhode Islanders die because of the flu alone?
	Woo!
	And this year it's the H1N1 virus, that nasty swine flu.
	Nasty swine flu.
	Hold on, we get to play the jingle.
	It's that nasty swine flu.
	It's not just that old, it's the nasty swine flu.
	From back in 2009, it's wreaking havoc and making everyone sick across the country.
	Everybody's sick.
	John, are you sick?
	Are you sick yet?
	You gotta be sick!
	With nearby Massachusetts and New York already considered widespread flu outbreak numbers, some Rhode Island health officials say we're next.
	Flu outbreak numbers.
	Make sure you check what outbreak stands for.
	Well, the one thing we know is that flu is in fact on its way here.
	It's coming from the south.
	It's taking the A train.
	The west and the north.
	Rhode Island Department was surrounded by flu.
	What about the east?
	That's water.
	It's just water.
	This is Rhode Island, baby.
	Surrounded by flu.
	Health Director Dr.
	Michael Fine says flu cases in nearby Massachusetts are now considered widespread.
	And physician visits for flu-like symptoms here in Rhode Island are way up.
	Flu-like symptoms.
	Always got to be careful of that one.
	And Dr.
	Fine says that means...
	What?
	They're way up.
	Yeah, they're up.
	It's time to stop procrastinating and get a flu shot.
	Get that shot!
	Especially if you're a young adult.
	Ah, see?
	Can I ask you a question?
	No, you can't ask me a question until I'm done with this report.
	In a typical year, worry about the elderly and infants.
	This year, around the country, we're seeing hospitalizations and even deaths in young adults.
	Where is this coming from?
	What data are there?
	So we have pandemic.
	They said outbreak, not pandemic yet.
	But outbreak.
	Numbers are up.
	There's no source of numbers.
	But now young people, not infants and elderly, no young people.
	Where is this coming from?
	Can I ask you a question about this?
	Something's baffling me.
	Yeah, sure.
	You remember, we did extensive coverage of the swine flu fiesta.
	For about a year, probably.
	Yeah, because of the woman from the World Health, there's a pandemic.
	Well, hold on, they changed...
	No, let's do it properly.
	They changed the qualifications of what is a pandemic.
	There were people inside the World Health Organization, and this has been reported by mainstream media as well, although summarily, who had vested interest...
	In propagating the, you must get vaccinated against the swine flu.
	They had actual financial interest.
	So yeah, that, yes?
	Well, the question is, if you remember, because I do, during that little era, there were two things that stood out.
	One is that the H1N1 flu vaccine had to be separate from the other mixture, the admixture of ad-libbed flu vaccines that they went to China and said, well, there's going to be this, this, and this.
	Right.
	It was a specific one.
	This specific vaccination, not for any old flu, but it had to be for this very specific strain of H1N1. And the second thing that was noteworthy is that it wasn't one shot.
	No, it was multiple.
	Two, wasn't it?
	Yeah, it was at least two shots.
	You had to go back because it was so nasty and dangerous that the thing had to be divided into two shots.
	So how do they now...
	So answer me this.
	This is the question.
	This will be like an Ask Adam, but not really.
	I don't want to hear the jingle.
	If that was true then, what changed?
	Because now they have incorporated the H1N1 in the regular flu shot, which they said they couldn't do, and they used to say you needed two shots.
	Now, how did it become one shot within the mixture of all the other flus?
	John, this is a baffling question.
	Do you have a clip to answer it?
	Well, no, I can just end up with what I had.
	I don't have any answer other than that it's bull crap.
	But you know what?
	You have two weeks, slave.
	So, regardless of who you are, it's a good year to be immunized.
	2014, a good year to be immunized.
	I think that's going to be the theme of the show.
	It's a good year.
	A good year to be immunized.
	For those of you who are dead set against being immunized...
	Oh, hold on a second.
	That would be us.
	Yeah, that's us.
	Dr.
	Fine would like to paint a picture of what the flu is really like.
	Okay, are you ready?
	No.
	No, I'm not.
	It's because he's going to paint a picture for you.
	Do you deny her you?
	For most of us, it's a fever of 100, 203 being knocked flat on your back.
	You know, it makes you ache so much that your hair hurts.
	And for many people, it's being out of work for one to two weeks.
	That's the meme.
	That's the meme.
	You don't want to be out of work for one to two weeks, do you?
	Slave...
	That's the meme.
	So they're going to, you watch, it's going to be, you have two weeks.
	You were hit by this flu and you were working the show and you sounded fine by the way.
	Did you have any of these symptoms?
	Maybe you had a different flu.
	I always have hair pain.
	Well, from your hair.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so hair.
	Of course.
	Of course.
	And my entire, my lungs hurt in the back.
	It's too late now because you obviously don't have the right genes.
	But don't you think it'd be funny with you and that hair on MTV for those old timers that listen to the show here, that if you actually went bald?
	You know, that sounds so fucking hilarious, John.
	No, I'm just saying, wouldn't you think it would be because you'd probably still keep the long hair.
	There are guys like this.
	They keep the long hair and then they end up with this bald and a ponytail.
	Yeah, there's a lot of guys like that, for sure.
	There are!
	Yeah, and you know what?
	You and I need to be very quiet because the hair gods have been good to us.
	Don't piss them off.
	It can still happen.
	You're borderline, by the way.
	Yeah, I know.
	Even when I was a kid.
	Okay, so it's standard operating procedure for you.
	Well, you're lucky.
	You have a good head of hair for your age.
	Thank you, son!
	I don't mean it like that, but most of the guys I know who are younger than I... This is stupid to talk about this on the show, but you do have...
	For people out there who haven't seen him, Adam, he's still got the hair and he could probably still bouffant it out if he wanted to.
	Easily.
	Easily.
	Yes, I could.
	And it grows very fast, my hair.
	And it's because I'm happy in general.
	I wanted to mention that I am still running on Windows 8.1 Pro Preview on this machine.
	It's really funny.
	The minute you said that, the sound got really crappy.
	I'm not kidding you.
	I wanted to mention I'm still running on Windows.
	I'm not kidding.
	That's what happened.
	But it's okay.
	You're good now.
	What?
	You really went away?
	I lost you.
	I completely lost you.
	Say something.
	Well, it's funny because I lost you a second ago.
	I think our connection is getting flaky.
	Anyway, I got a message when the machine booted telling me to buy the damn thing.
	Oh, because this is a preview thing?
	Yeah, and it says it will be disabled.
	And it says you've got some time to buy it.
	It's going to work.
	It says it's going to work.
	Now, I'm warning you now.
	I was going to move it to the other machine, but I figured I wanted to do this live on the air as an experiment.
	What, have it break live on the air?
	What a great idea.
	It said it will reboot in two hours.
	No.
	Why?
	I don't know why.
	Why?
	That's what I'm thinking.
	I don't want it to...
	This is no good.
	Well, that means right now it's 925.
	We start at about 9.
	So at 11 o'clock, my machine is going to reboot.
	Or not.
	I don't believe it will.
	I believe I'm going to get a message.
	Why do they want to reboot?
	Just to spite you?
	So that you buy it?
	They don't want you to think you're going to get away with it.
	You're not getting the operating system for free, chump, is what the message is.
	Hmm, interesting.
	Well, what is it worth to you?
	What are they charging for that Windows 8 OS? I think for people that were preview users, I think it's $40, which is reasonable.
	And for regular slavelets?
	$500!
	No, no, you're kidding, right?
	That can't be true.
	It's a couple hundred bucks.
	Really?
	Wow, what's the value, man?
	That doesn't sound like a good value.
	Not if it reboots every two hours.
	Did you see what Mayor Bloomberg did on his way out just before the...
	A lot of people...
	Yeah, he gave the finger and walked out of the office.
	It was horrible.
	He did something else.
	He signed one little bill into law.
	And what do a lot of people do on New Year's?
	They have New Year's resolutions.
	What do you think the number one New Year's resolution is?
	Lose weight.
	Yeah, that's probably true.
	And then I think smoking and drinking is probably not far behind.
	Yeah.
	So he made sure that those who wanted to quit smoking with some assistance can just forget about it.
	No matter how you feel about Mayor Michael Bloomberg, there's no denying his impact on the day-to-day life of New Yorkers over the past 12 years, taking on everything from birth control to big gulps.
	So it seems almost fitting that in his final act as Mayor, Bloomberg signed into law a controversial initiative that extends the city's smoking ban to include e-cigarettes.
	Vapings!
	The law would make it illegal to use the battery-operated cigs in offices, restaurants, bars, and parks.
	But some critics, including anti-smoking advocates, say the ban may end up doing more harm than good.
	Yeah, because a lot of people wanted to, you know, transition through an e-cig.
	This is like a trend because we have a similar situation happening here at Cal.
	There's a clip.
	And they are also banning e-cigs, but a lot more.
	Oh, okay.
	For students, faculty, and employees of the University of California who smoke, this year could bring a new set of challenges as the entire system goes smoke-free.
	Starting today, smoking and the use of all tobacco products, including cigarettes, E-cigarettes, cigars, snuff, water pipes, pipes, hookahs, and chewing tobacco are prohibited on all campuses and facilities, both indoors and outdoors.
	Officials with the UC system say it is offering an extensive selection of stop-smoking resources to anyone who's interested.
	Smoking tobacco.
	Well, smokeless.
	I have to say, when I was in...
	I was here sometimes, you know, the chewing tobacco.
	I don't even want to be around you as a human being with your Pepsi can that you're spitting dribble into.
	Can you imagine what it must have been like in bars in the Old West where they had spittoons?
	With the spittoons, yeah.
	Because you know the guys weren't hitting those things nine out of ten times.
	So somebody had to clean that mess up?
	But just the whole process of putting that in your mouth is very un...
	I don't understand it.
	I've tried the snooze.
	Those little pouches of tobacco?
	I mean, not in the past, you know, two years, but when we were in Los Angeles, I think we tried to quit once for about a month.
	Not so successful.
	And I think it was mainly because we were using the e-cigarettes at the time, and I tried a couple of those snooze things.
	I don't know what you're talking about.
	Snooze is, I think it's made by, it's a Camel product.
	It's made by Camel.
	Marlboro might make them too, or Philip Morris.
	And it's a little pouch of tobacco, but it's like a little mini pillow, and you can stick it in your gum like you would chewing tobacco, but you don't have to spit out all this goop all the time.
	And worse, actually, you swallow whatever nicotine stuff is in there, and it's probably ten times more addictive than smoking.
	But it gives you a really good, satisfied feeling.
	I have my chewing tobacco story.
	So I'm working at the refinery at Union Oil in Rodeo, and I'm floating around, I don't know why, with one of the guys who works in the tank farm.
	And we got into some conversation about how nobody at the refinery smokes for obvious reasons.
	Yeah, blowed up.
	But there's a lot of...
	Addicts, and they all used chewing tobacco.
	So half the workers, especially during this era when everyone was smoking, they were all chewing tobacco.
	And so he says, you ever tried chewing tobacco?
	I says, no.
	And so he showed me, you know, he gave me a pinch and told me how to do it.
	Chew it and do all the rest.
	And meanwhile, we were looking at some tanks.
	So I'm climbing this tank to get to the top to look down.
	And by the time I got up there, I was so wasted from this stuff.
	I was dizzy.
	Yeah.
	It was horrible.
	Yeah, it's very dangerous.
	So I come crawling back to the ground.
	Puking.
	Puking.
	No, no, I didn't get sick.
	But it was just like, wow, this stuff is ridiculously strong.
	And the guy says to me, he says, most of the people that switched from smoking to chewing tobacco, they were worse off.
	He says, there's much more nicotine, you get more addicted.
	He says, terrible, he said, as he put another chunk of this, whatever those big chunks.
	It's so crazy.
	We had my daughter and her girlfriend here, and Christina is pretty much, she doesn't have the, I have an addictive personality, so if I smoke a cigarette, there'll be a second one, there'll be a pack, and I'll be back on.
	I just know this.
	And her girlfriend smokes, but like a smoker, no really like, you know, after a meal, in the morning with coffee, and of course we're not having, you know, can't smoke in the house.
	Pfft.
	Not that when we were smokers, we did, of course.
	And so she's smoking out in the back.
	But just having someone who smokes around you...
	I can't believe that I didn't realize how foul this really is.
	It's totally bad.
	And you don't know it.
	You have to have a cigarette before breakfast.
	I mean, the classic smoker to me is someone who smokes at the table during breakfast, during breakfast, and then puts the cigarette out in one of the egg yolks.
	I've never done that, but I've come pretty close.
	You know, I really enjoyed my smoking.
	Again, I used to roll my own.
	I'd choose the tobacco.
	It was the whole ritual.
	You'd be a ritual out of smoking.
	Yeah.
	And I wish I could just once in a while have a nice smoke, but I can't.
	I just can't because I know what will happen.
	You can't do it.
	If there's a stressful situation, boom.
	It'd be done.
	It'd be over.
	And I just have to remind myself, it took me a year and a half, more than a year and a half now, of not smoking to realize how bad someone really smells.
	No, they stink.
	Did I stink like that too?
	Yeah.
	Really?
	But you had also the aroma of pot.
	Which was kind of attractive.
	He's kind of an attractive guy.
	I don't know why I like this.
	This thing was the patchouli oil.
	And a peace sign around my neck.
	Perfect.
	Well, I'm glad we're done with that.
	I feel very, very good.
	And man, I just gotta reiterate how my life has changed with that spin class, which I still do twice a week.
	Oh my god, I feel just so good.
	That's good.
	Speaking of pot, it sounds like...
	Damn, I'm really trying to work on that in 2014.
	Do you remember...
	When we were looking for the answer to the question, everyone was asking, what the hell is wrong with Colorado?
	Because of, you know, what is up with the schools in Colorado?
	The kids are killing each other.
	What's wrong?
	I don't know if we actually use that voice, but that voice, a lot of my friends, certainly in the Northern California, up near you, literally said, what is wrong?
	What could be...
	We don't understand.
	Well, the answer came...
	Colorado schools have a pot problem.
	That would be it!
	Oh, yes!
	Oh, yes!
	This is how we're gonna roll, baby.
	Where do people get it?
	I don't know exactly, but...
	Just like I know that kids smoke it a lot.
	Now that it's legal, everybody's just getting it.
	While still illegal for anyone under the age of 21, younger people are finding ways to get their hands on marijuana.
	And we found they don't shy away from talking about it.
	I see people selling it and I think it's easy for people to get now.
	Even for somebody who's underage.
	Yeah.
	Who are really pissed off at the teacher.
	It was so hard to get it before they legalized it.
	It was almost impossible.
	Couldn't get it, man.
	But this report, which went on for five minutes, only clipped 45 seconds.
	It just goes on and on.
	I know lots of people.
	Most of my friends use it.
	Why do they want to use it?
	Why do they want to use it?
	Because, you know, it makes you feel good.
	I feel like that it's not typically classified as like a harmful drug, like as meth or whatever.
	Do you know of anybody who comes to school high or gets high during lunch break, for example?
	Oh yeah, this is, yeah.
	Oh yeah!
	That's never happened before.
	I was getting high and going to school 30 years ago.
	Come on, this is not new.
	It's never happened before, Adam.
	It's because they legalized it and something's got to be done.
	You know, this is a part of school.
	You're supposed to be high and go to school.
	Once in a while?
	If you have schools like we have, the slave training schools, yeah, it'd be better.
	Yeah, but once in a while.
	I mean, that's a part of growing up.
	It was not when I was a kid.
	It was strictly a college situation.
	I bet you there was drinking when you were growing up.
	Wasn't that the big thing?
	Let's drink.
	Absolutely.
	Drunk driving was the thing to do.
	Woo!
	How'd that turn out for everybody?
	Seemed to be okay.
	We got through it.
	Yeah, it's not uncommon at all.
	There's a bunch of people that come to this school high.
	While some teens seem to think using marijuana is okay, schools are trying to send a message that it's not.
	Pot is now the number one reason students are kicked out of Colorado.
	I learned it from you, okay?
	Did that bring back any memories?
	Do you remember that commercial?
	No, my children have never had any of these issues.
	Do you not remember this commercial?
	I think any kids that were raised properly, and these parents obviously in Colorado.
	Oh, hold on a second.
	You're telling me that none of your kids ever went to school high?
	Please.
	Oh, please.
	I mean, they may have gotten high at school, but they didn't go to school high.
	Especially, it's pretty hard to do when you're homeschooled.
	That's exactly why you gotta get high.
	Yeah.
	Well, there is a point there.
	But then maybe the homeschool was fun.
	Yeah, it wasn't like going to...
	That would be more fun than the regular school where they just have a bunch of people haranguing you.
	Yeah, going to the slave institution.
	Yes, no wonder.
	But there was this commercial.
	There's plenty of kids that aren't stoned in the Colorado schools, too.
	This is just a hysteric report designed for one thing, to overturn the laws.
	And it's being propagated by the Justice Department because they're besides themselves what to do about this.
	Yes, it's lovely.
	It's great.
	In fact, there's going to be...
	In fact, it's already started.
	It appears to be that there's going to be a lot of drug tourism, people going into Colorado, because apparently, even if you don't live there, you can get like a quarter ounce, I think is the max.
	I was listening to a radio report on this.
	And you can get a quarter ounce, because they talk about a lot of this stuff going on in Colorado and Washington, because Washington is also legalized, and there's been some stores opened up, ready to go.
	And...
	It's just going to be part of society.
	It's like in Portugal.
	Once you make things legal, the thing calms down.
	It doesn't go nuts.
	They're making it sound like it's going crazy.
	It's the same with bicycles, by the way.
	I saw a report...
	It was a couple of expats living in Amsterdam did a mini documentary.
	I'll have to see if I can find it somewhere.
	It's on YouTube.
	About bicycles.
	And when you see how the bicycle traffic in the Netherlands works, it really is astounding.
	It's like birds who are flying in a flock and all of a sudden they all go left and right and they never seem to bump into each other and, you know...
	Jostle each other out of the sky.
	And they stood at a particular intersection where they counted, I think they counted in one morning, you know, 100,000 bicycles intersected, crossed, including cars and trams and buses, and nothing happened.
	You know, and people, they don't, when they almost bump into each other, there's no yelling and shouting.
	It's like, oh, sorry, you know, with a little sound.
	You know, But there's no fighting, no one's honking and yelling and cursing.
	And that took...
	They ring that little bell a lot.
	Yeah, the bell, which I miss here.
	You know, people don't understand a bell and how to use it.
	And it took, maybe it took a hundred years for that culture of bicycling to be integrated.
	And you can't just expect it to work in San Francisco or in Austin.
	Now we have the city bikes, which are cute.
	But it's dangerous.
	Yeah, we've got city bikes now in the city.
	It's dangerous.
	It's dangerous.
	And it will remain dangerous.
	It's totally dangerous.
	And by the way, where are the helmets for those city bikes?
	Oh, screw that.
	Screw you and your helmet.
	You don't need a helmet.
	Well, these guys do.
	And by the way, why don't the police, they're always looking for new revenue, do something about these bicyclists who don't stop at stop signs?
	One second.
	Hold on.
	No, no, no.
	Listen to me.
	In the Netherlands, how many people die from not having...
	Do you see anyone in Holland riding with a bike helmet?
	No.
	No.
	Maybe a wool cap.
	The pedestrians should wear the helmets.
	You can get hit by those bikes.
	Even that doesn't really happen.
	Bike lanes everywhere.
	It's just culture.
	It takes a long time.
	It's not just rules.
	The bicyclists in the Netherlands, the red light is go faster.
	They completely ignore that and it still works.
	It works.
	It's not a regulation thing.
	It's a cultural thing, and it takes a long time.
	A long time.
	And it will work if people want to use that mode of transportation.
	Everything figures itself out, but you can't do it with rules.
	It doesn't work that way.
	Same with marijuana.
	It doesn't work that way.
	Something you can grow in your backyard?
	Nah, it doesn't work that way.
	Nope.
	Well, they're going to try to do everything they can to make it look like all hell's broken loose in Colorado with stories like that.
	That's for sure.
	Oh, all the kids.
	Oh, we've got a picture of a five-year-old smoking a joint.
	You're going to see that.
	You're going to see a toddler.
	Oh, and the toddler goes, what happens when the toddler, the parents were smoking dope in the living room and then they went to the kitchen to get some peanut butter and jelly and the toddler came up and saw the joint and took a couple puffs and had to be rushed to the hospital.
	I can do these stories.
	Yes, I know.
	I know.
	I know.
	It's...
	It's almost like, wow, we're going to do another year of this?
	It's so easy to predict.
	Yeah, they're walking down Main Street everywhere.
	Well, most of our listeners, I think, can spot these things a mile away, although they still miss a couple people out there who are still skeptical about us.
	For example, this guy, Jordan Maxwell, who I've been trying to get to the beginning of the hoax about...
	Who is Jordan Maxwell?
	Jordan Maxwell is a public speaker who's been, for the last 50 years, been promoting the idea that the whole country is a sham and we're part of some corporation that we don't know about and the officers are in England and the Rothschilds are running everything.
	Yeah, so hold on one second.
	I need to know exactly who this guy is.
	Hold on.
	Let me do what we always do.
	Consult the book of knowledge!
	Because you've gotten me into this as well.
	And now you've dragged me into this.
	I'm sorry.
	Yeah, you dragged me into this.
	And the amount of grief I get now...
	I've been doing date searches.
	But I'm backing you up on this stuff.
	And this is what is making people very, very angry.
	Because a lot of people have bought into a hook, line, and sinker.
	I had a guy who sent me a note saying, I want a reference to this.
	Yeah, I saw that.
	I saw that too.
	Of the congressional record showing where this...
	This is the Act of 1871.
	Yeah, 1871.
	You look at any of these bills, by the way, which I think you'll enjoy.
	Wait, we're going to listen to a clip from this guy, Jordan Maxwell, who has a sparkly, starry background on his webpage at jordanmaxwell.com.
	Really?
	I just want you to get an idea of the kind of illogic and craziness that people eventually lap up because you hear it enough and people reiterate it.
	And this ran on Infowars.
	Well, hold on one second.
	Before you go anywhere, let me read from his own website.
	Known by close friends as simply Rusty, Jordan Maxwell, born Russell J. Pine, apparently he needs a stage name, Continues as a preeminent scholar and lecturer in the fields of secret societies, occult philosophies, and UFOlogy since 1959.
	His work is not only fascinating to explore, but too important to ignore.
	Are you sure?
	What does your middle name stand for?
	What does C stand for?
	What does C? Cash.
	Yeah, you are, John.
	It sounds like I got someone else, man.
	You want to play something from InfoWars?
	No, it's been around, but they've highlighted it.
	I'll tell you the background of this because Jordan Maxwell did this long lecture that was just an eye-roller.
	It went on for three hours.
	And the title of it, if you look at it on YouTube, it says, Infowars refuses to play this clip.
	Okay.
	Well, then he might be telling the truth, actually.
	So now I'm interested.
	Well, no.
	Now they're playing his clip.
	They played the short clip because apparently he's been retired for a while.
	I don't know how old he is, but now he's...
	I swear to God, in this clip he's just essentially wearing his underwear.
	So you have to imagine a guy in his skivvies Discussing this stuff.
	You know, I have watched so much of this kind of stuff.
	And, you know, I mean, I like you starting.
	I mean, Jesus, John, you start off with MKUltra, and now this?
	You are a corporation.
	Your body is being bought and sold on the New York Stock Exchange every day, and you have no idea in the world how the world really works.
	Yeah, and you know what?
	Seven, eight years ago, six, even six years ago, I would watch this stuff and I'd be like, yeah, man, yeah!
	Until I really started to learn how to read documents.
	And there's just no evidence to back this up.
	I'd like to know where this stock is.
	I would like to short myself.
	Just short myself and quit the show and make a fortune.
	So people talk about having to go to court.
	They talk about...
	I am short on Dvorak this week.
	...how the government does this and the government did that.
	You don't really want me to listen to this, do you?
	Oh, please.
	Just humor me.
	This is unlistenable.
	...because they've got to go to court, which you should be scared of court.
	I'm not scared of court.
	Well, why do people go to court?
	Because you play basketball on a court.
	You play tennis on a court.
	Wake up.
	Wake up!
	Wake up, people!
	Hold on.
	Let me try it.
	You gotta wake up, people!
	You play basketball on the court!
	You play tennis on the court on the court!
	It's scary on the court!
	I'm trying to do my Alex Jones.
	I don't think I can do it.
	No, not even close.
	You don't listen very much anymore.
	The reason why you go to court is a game.
	It's like tennis.
	And how do you play tennis?
	You play with a racket.
	This is good.
	When you go into a basketball game to play on the court, the whole idea is you have two teams.
	One team is a team of lawyers and another team of lawyers.
	And the whole idea in a court, because it's maritime admiralty, international banking law, The whole idea is to put the ball back in the other guy's court.
	I do have an opinion on a lot of this stuff.
	There's a difference between international law and common law, and of course we have commercial common code.
	Yeah, there's a lot of law.
	There's a lot of, you know, it's all make-believe.
	It's just rules that we've kind of agreed on that have been written in some form, and it's just all derivative of some original, Magna Carta in some ways.
	And what people call law and human rights law and internet freedom law and all of this, it's all in people's minds.
	It's all what they make up.
	And this has nothing to do with America being a corporation or not.
	And it doesn't really even matter.
	It doesn't matter.
	You can bring a corporation to its knees as easily as you can a country.
	You can build up a corporation to be a great corporation.
	You made this argument before, and I think there is that element that even if all this stuff was true, what difference does it make?
	Yeah.
	But it's not true, and it's ludicrous, and it's beside the point, and it just causes nothing but confusion amongst the people that buy into this, that we're a corporation, and we went bankrupt.
	Yeah, but what is the confusion, John?
	No, I'm sorry.
	I don't understand your obsession with other people's obsession.
	Who gives a crap?
	I don't understand.
	So what?
	I give a crap.
	I care.
	About what?
	I don't know yet.
	I'm getting to the bottom of it.
	Maybe you care because...
	No, here's what it is.
	No, I know what it is.
	This guy seems to be actually selling books he actually published for $19.99.
	Maybe that's what angers you.
	He did it.
	He put a book together, put up a webpage.
	Hey, you don't have to demean me for doing my research.
	He put up a webpage with some sparkly stars, which you could easily do, and he's selling his book.
	Why don't you get on this bandwagon?
	You could do astral cycles or whatever.
	People will buy it.
	Look at it.
	He's got a million books out.
	He's his own little publishing empire.
	Yeah, yeah.
	That's your problem.
	Anyway, it could be.
	It could be.
	I could be just jealous.
	I think you are!
	That always used to be a thing to give Bill Gates a bad time.
	You're just jealous of Bill Gates and his money.
	Did you hear about the email with Bill Gates?
	I bet you didn't hear.
	That you won money?
	No, no, no.
	So, let's see.
	Robert Wilson...
	On Monday, killed himself.
	Robert Wilson, a very, very wealthy hedge fund guy.
	He was 86.
	He had a horrible stroke.
	No one has published it.
	He wrote a suicide note.
	And he jumped out of his Upper West Side high-rise apartment and died.
	And he had given away estimated $500 million of his, you know, $800 million or billion dollar wealth.
	And his goal was to give away most of it before he died.
	He told a friend recently, I only have about $100 million to go.
	So after this happens, an email exchange is released between him and Bill Gates.
	Are you Googling this?
	Because you don't have to.
	I'll just tell you what it is.
	Yeah, I just want to see a picture of the guy and some other stuff.
	Go on.
	I'm listening.
	Of course I'm Googling it.
	That's what we do, both of us.
	People think John's not interested.
	He's doing his tax returns or something.
	Well, that too.
	I can do tax returns while I'm Googling.
	All right.
	From Bill Gates to Robert W. Wilson.
	This is June 16th of 2010.
	I'm running to...
	Robert, I'm writing to let you know about an idea we're calling the Giving Pledge that came out of a number of conversations that Melinda and Warren and I had with a number of people over the past year.
	By the way, this is a recurring theme with Bill's emails.
	Melinda, Warren, and I. Sounds like the title of a book.
	It sounds like they're having sex, which is sad and scary.
	We were all in bed smoking a joint the other day, and we thought, hey, let's write an email to Robert W. Wilson.
	The idea is that when you take the giving pledge, you agree to give the majority of your wealth to charity during your lifetime or through your will.
	The giving pledge will be public, and pledges will be posted on the website, givingpledge.org, and he goes on and on and on.
	And then he says, I'm going to skip through a lot of this email.
	See, today an article about the Giving Pledge was posted online at fortune.com.
	Warren and Melinda and I will be on Charlie Rose's show tonight to further discuss the idea.
	Boy, that Melinda hit the jackpot, didn't she?
	Oh yeah, boy.
	Nice.
	Second in that, in the next few days, we are asking some of the great philanthropists in the United States to join us signing a letter to hundreds of wealthy people in the United States, inviting them to pledge.
	That's how he's basically pitching.
	And then Wilson responds, Mr.
	Gates, I decided more than 10 years ago to try to give away 70% of my net worth and have already given away one half billion dollars.
	I've never been to Forbes 400, so I really don't have to take that pledge.
	Your giving pledge has a loophole that renders it practically worthless, namely permitting pledgees to simply name charities in their wills.
	I have found that most billionaires or near-billionaires hate giving large sums of money away while alive and instead set up family-controlled foundations to do it for them after death.
	And these foundations, more often than not, are often bureaucracy-ridden sluggards.
	These rich are delighted to toss off a few million a year in order to remain socially acceptable, but that's it.
	I'm going to stay far away from your effort, but thanks for thinking of me.
	Cordially.
	And Gates responds.
	What you're doing is fantastic.
	What?
	Yes, Bill Gates is so nuts.
	This is how he responds to that email.
	Sounds like a boilerplate.
	What you're doing is fantastic.
	You're giving a high percentage and doing it in a very efficient way to causes you have thought deeply about.
	The key benefit of your getting involved in the pledge would be having people learn more from your example, both in your pledge letter and your participation in the yearly events.
	We believe the more people we get involved, the stronger the effort will be and the more people who will join in.
	You are right that the giving pledge allows people to join in who don't give until their will comes into action.
	Since people don't know when they will die, it is a bit difficult to make the timing of their giving super specific.
	You are also right that some people set up foundations without a strong focus or leadership and with high overhead.
	Yeah, no kidding.
	So it's fine for you to stay out, but I want you to know that we agree with your views on philanthropy and we would benefit from your joining in.
	If you're willing to talk further about this, I would love to chat on the phone sometime.
	And then Wilson comes back.
	Mr.
	Gates, thanks so much for your email, but as my previous email indicated, I wouldn't have much fun or add much value to this group.
	You, being a liberal, think you can change people more than I think I can.
	But let me make one comment.
	When I talk to young people who seem destined for great success, I tell them to forget about charities and giving.
	Concentrate on your family and getting rich, which I found to be very hard work.
	I personally and the world at large are very glad you were more interested in computer software than the underprivileged when you were young.
	And don't forget that those who don't make money never become philanthropists.
	When rich people reach 50 and are beginning to slow down, this is the time to begin engaging them in philanthropy.
	I greatly appreciate just leaving it at that.
	Cordially.
	Basically, screw you and Melinda and Warren.
	Well, I would, yeah.
	Well, they're pretty arrogant about this whole thing, in fact, which brings me to one of my points.
	Over the years, especially with Bill and Warren, and they're, oh, the rich should be taxed more.
	They're never saying that income taxes should go up for the rich, including themselves.
	And then Bill's one of those guys who used to pay himself like a dollar.
	Yeah.
	And my CEO pays a dollar.
	And so the wealth tax would shut these guys up.
	Yeah.
	I got to get back on that.
	That ain't going to happen.
	I'm going to...
	It could.
	Well, yes.
	Otherwise you end up in a situation like the one here I have a clip of, which is taxes in France.
	Listen to these numbers.
	Yeah, this got passed.
	...the situation in France because the French are facing new tax hikes.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Everyone's trying to calculate now how much more they're going to be paying.
	Tax hikes came into place from January 1st.
	The biggest among these is a change to the rate of value-added tax, or VAT, the tax on most goods and services.
	Now, it's a change that affects every consumer, no matter how much or how little they earn.
	Some businesses are trying to absorb the cost of the tax increases, not pass it on to their consumers.
	But as Kate Moody has been finding out, it's not an easy task.
	Champagne and a meal out.
	Small luxuries being affected by the New Year's tax hike.
	This restaurant owner has vowed to protect his customers and won't raise his prices.
	But he'll find other ways to save.
	For the 29 euro menu, we'll take off the poached eggs with morel mushrooms, because morels are such a rare product.
	Rare and too expensive to offer, now that the intermediate VAT rate, which applies to restaurants, hotels, and train tickets, is boosted from 7 to 10 percent.
	Services like plumbing also fall under the same bracket.
	For this plumber, the new rate amounts to about 6 euros per house call.
	He, too, has promised to absorb the extra cost, concerned about discouraging new customers.
	We'll take it from our profit margin, so maybe we'll earn a bit less, but at least we won't lose clients.
	France's standard VAT rate, which applies to goods like clothing, rises from 19.6 to 20%, while the basic rate on food remains unchanged at 5.5%.
	But some consumers worry the extra pennies will add up.
	Yeah, this is VAT. Yeah, VAT, 20%.
	It's 21% in most of Euroland.
	21% on anything.
	It's 21%.
	You know what's interesting about this report that was kind of overlooked in terms of understanding it?
	Because there was a number of things.
	This is all from VanCat.
	They talked about Lithuania is now in the Eurozone and they're going to have a little bit of inflation.
	But every time you hear a report about this, and you hear it here all the time too, they're going to pass it along to their customers.
	In France, they're going to absorb it.
	That was kind of the theme of this, because the French have a socialistic mentality, and so they all suck it up.
	I mean, we're gougers.
	I lived in the Netherlands from a very young age, and when we moved there in 1972, I believe the highest bracket income tax was about 72% or 73%.
	And this came down dramatically later on, but this is where it was when we started, and of course you had so-called free everything, it was all great.
	And you know what?
	Capitalism has its problems, this socialism has its problems too.
	It does not work, because people take advantage of...
	Oh, yeah.
	Getting a free ride.
	I don't feel so good.
	Oh, I'm going to go.
	Oh, well, you know, my back hurts.
	I'm going to stay home this week.
	Because you'll get a, you know, you get paid for it anyway.
	And if you're a long-term disability, you get at least 80% of your last paycheck.
	All this stuff.
	It's just like the insurance companies.
	When you have an insurance company, people...
	And the culture of the Dutch.
	Growing up, I will never forget.
	People would take out a trip insurance for vacation.
	And they would lose their phone or their camera, typically.
	Oh, my camera was lost or broken.
	Yeah, I'm just going to report it to insurance so I can get a new one.
	It's my right.
	People would say...
	It's my right because for some reason you've paid enough.
	The people start to feel what they feel is enough.
	Oh, I've paid enough.
	Now it's my right to collect.
	And I've seen this happen, and with the value-added tax, massive, massive fraud in this.
	I worked at a restaurant, bussing tables, and the guy was like, eh, you know, give me some of those VAT receipt, empty VAT receipts.
	I'll give you 100 guilders at the time.
	If you give me a booklet of those, it's just massive fraud everywhere.
	It only invites fraud.
	And it's very easy, and it's easiest for the people at the top to defraud.
	No, no, no.
	Forget about it.
	We have diverged to such a degree where the rich are truly disgustingly wealthy, and I have no disgust for money, and the poor are just disgustingly poor, and us schmucks in the middle, we're the ones getting raped over all this.
	There's a great article in Business Insider.
	They went to see the Wolf of Wall Street.
	And the theater they went to is one right behind Goldman Sachs' office, right there in the financial district.
	Fieldwork, it's called.
	Fieldwork, yes.
	And during this entire movie, which apparently is a long one, like three hours, whenever DiCaprio, who plays the...
	Rich Creep.
	Yeah, Belfort.
	It's based on a true story.
	Whenever he was, like, taking coke to sober up from the lewds, you know, it was everyone, I mean, I remember being, watching Beverly Hills Cop in a Times Square movie theater, and everyone was cheering on Eddie Murphy.
	It was a very, you know, very black crowd.
	Was it Beverly Hills Cop?
	No, it was, I think it was, maybe was it Purple Rain?
	It was some, I don't remember what it was.
	Maybe it was just Eddie Murphy's Raw or something.
	God, what was it?
	Regardless, you get the audience of people cheering and like, oh yeah, shoot him, kill him!
	This is what these guys are doing when he's stealing money and ripping off his clients.
	He's wearing a wire and he slides a piece of paper to his number two in command that says, don't incriminate yourself, I'm wearing a wire.
	And the crowd is yelling, that's right, stand by your firm, don't rat it!
	It's like...
	What kind of an audience was this that they're so vocal?
	Yeah, this was just Wall Street guys.
	Wall Street guys.
	The financial district.
	This is what it is.
	They don't care.
	They are ripping everybody off and enriching themselves.
	And it's fine.
	It's disgusting.
	But the guillotine could come back, people.
	I just want to remind you.
	Yeah, you fucked your head on a stick, it wouldn't surprise me.
	Yeah, so VAT, sure.
	It's just to rip us off more.
	I don't know.
	Maybe Hillary can fix it.
	You know, I don't think that she's on the public side on any of this stuff.
	Let's get that sense.
	I don't know, maybe I'm wrong.
	So I've ended up watching the entire House of Cards.
	I didn't realize, you know, I don't give away the whole story, but...
	Now I'm even more disgusted that Obama was admiring this guy in the show.
	The guy's a murderer!
	The show, everybody is despicable.
	Everybody.
	The little reporter, she's a slut.
	Her girlfriend's a bitch.
	Jerk.
	Everybody is a horrible person in this thing.
	It's a very good story because you're just jaw dropped.
	Why?
	What?
	I know.
	I know.
	It's pretty good.
	Just a cold-blooded, horrible person.
	The only person that's kind of interesting that might not be a horrible person is the woman who quit that little non-profit they were running because she's having a baby.
	But even then, she was out to get the other one.
	So, I mean, it was just a...
	Of all the things you want to see on Netflix, go watch House of Cards.
	And then the other thing, I've been re-watching Rubicon.
	Still a good story on Amazon.
	It's free to Amazon Prime users, and it's in HD. Very good story, too.
	I've got a lot of research that I want to discuss with you, and I want to get to that.
	But first, even at the first show of the new year, I have to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
	What was that again, Adam?
	In the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
	Well, in the morning to you, Adam C. Curry.
	And in the morning to all the ships that see boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and all the knights out there.
	Yes, and of course, in the morning to everyone in the chat room, now back in good graces.
	As we start off the year with John Happy about the chatroom, noagendastream.com.
	Yeah, that probably won't last, but it's always nice to start off on a positive note.
	And thank you to our artists.
	Silicon Spin brought us the art for 578, the last piece of artwork for last year.
	And we appreciate all the work that our artists do.
	It seems like some people have already put in for future episodes.
	I'm not quite sure how that works.
	Anyway, it was just a nice end-of-year piece.
	And we're very curious to see what happens in this new year.
	And all of our artists are always credited.
	And it's always highly, highly appreciated.
	Thank you.
	No Agenda, artgenerator.com.
	And then, of course, we have our model.
	I think we long ago discovered that you can't monetize the network.
	There's no necessity for aggregation.
	You can go direct and build your audience.
	We've been working on this for six years, and we continue to build and grow very slowly.
	Yeah, slow but sure, though.
	It is sure.
	I got an invitation from a magazine in the Netherlands.
	The editor-in-chief is called the New Refu, which is a crap magazine.
	They've always been mean to me, too.
	They've been mean to you?
	Always mean.
	With articles like, who does Adam Curry think he is?
	And then they interview a whole bunch of people.
	That would be good, yeah.
	It never turns out nice.
	No, no.
	Some listener alerted us to your stance on Sandy Hook and the Boston bombing.
	Yeah, maybe we should talk about that.
	I'm like, yeah, oh, let me think.
	You're going to make me into an idiot hoaxer.
	That's probably what you want to do.
	No, no.
	Conspiracy theory nut.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	No, no, no.
	We think that you have a...
	I heard seven or eight minutes of you talking during Christmas break about...
	Because I said I accused him of never having listened, otherwise you never would have asked me this.
	He said, no, no, I heard seven or eight minutes on the Sandy Hook and the evidence.
	I said, we've done hours of this over months.
	You can't put this into a one-page article.
	It's impossible.
	It will not work.
	And all that happens is I get nothing out of it.
	No, but don't you want to promote some of your ideas?
	No.
	No, I don't.
	You want to promote ideas?
	No.
	What?
	We're here to promote people's ability to think.
	We're here to improve people's lives.
	Thank you.
	We're here to do that sort of thing.
	If we're going to promote anything, we do promote the show.
	But you're never going to get promotion for maybe one person who will go like, let me take a look at that.
	And all the best are like, I knew it.
	Tin foil hat, crazy nut job.
	Where's the tin foil hat?
	Yeah, exactly.
	That's exactly right.
	We know this.
	Yeah, so I'm like, wow.
	And to myself, I also had to reset.
	It's like, okay, I could see all the danger.
	Like, warning, danger, Will Robinson, back away from the mainstream press.
	Because it was...
	Remember the last time we did something, we were in Los Angeles, and it was a real publication.
	Maybe it was New York Times or Wall Street Journal, and they would not accept my title of media assassin?
	It's like, well, we can't print that.
	I said, but that's what I am.
	No, that's not a real title.
	Do you remember that?
	What newspaper was that?
	Or maybe it was USA Today?
	I don't remember this.
	Yeah.
	I remember you getting into a beef about something, though.
	No, they're not our friends.
	No, they just want to make fun of us.
	And they don't...
	Well, that's because they...
	No, but here's a guy who's being paid.
	I guess the point is, the way it works over there in that land, in mainstream land, is you're in a big company, a big publishing house, they do multiple magazines, we've got to do something, we'll make fun of somebody, maybe not even, and then the other magazines can jump on it, extract stuff, and call the guy nuts, and then we've got a little thing going on, more people will buy our magazine.
	Just some controversy, just whatever we can get.
	We opted out of that years ago.
	And the only way we've done it is by the model that we've created, which is in no way an Indiegogo or a Kickstarter.
	This is something very, very specific, which may only work with an audio podcast, by the way.
	I don't even know if it will work with many other forms of media.
	And we're not working for tips.
	No tip jar.
	It used to work for PBS. In the early days, it was pretty much just what you gave them this.
	And it was different.
	When I was a kid, the public broadcasting thing was a more honest operation.
	They were a little low-end.
	They were not quite of the same standards in terms of broadcast quality.
	It was really lame, basically.
	There was good material on there, but it was like Russian TV. We should trace back to see when that changed and what the change was, because it's not low-grade anymore.
	Underwriting came in.
	Oh, you mean, let me see, where do we have it?
	Here it is.
	Okay, moving on to money.
	How are NPR's corporate underwriting revenues holding up in the recession, and what about foundation grants?
	Okay.
	Two different stories.
	Underwriting is down.
	It's down for everybody.
	I mean, this is the area that is most down for us, is in sponsorship, underwriting, advertising, call it whatever you want.
	Call it whatever you want.
	It's advertising.
	It's more obviously advertising in today's era because these advertisers demand, I demand 60 seconds of promotion for Chevron.
	And how can PBS sit there with a straight face and say, here is the Kaiser Medical Report, an independent organization funded by Kaiser!
	How can they say that with a straight face?
	I honestly think they're deluded.
	I don't think they're being insincere.
	That's the scary part.
	Here it is.
	The Kaiser, not just the PBS medical report underwritten by Kaiser.
	No, no.
	The Kaiser.
	From Kaiser Permanente.
	From Kaiser.
	The Kaiser family of products.
	Yeah, it's like watching ABC where it says, you know, it says, scoreboard, Vizio scoreboard, Volvo scoreboard, Ford, brought to you by Ford.
	Yeah.
	This Ford Minute.
	Yeah.
	Oh, the Ford Minute.
	It really...
	We tried to watch a little bit of the shows from Times Square.
	Now, I did Times Square.
	In 1987.
	And at that time, I had a bodyguard, an armed, undercover, off-duty cop standing next to me because there was no guardrails or anything.
	There wasn't even a camera.
	The camera was on one Times Square up on the 50th floor looking down at me with a huge zoom lens.
	And I was like, hey, good luck, Curry.
	There was no crowd control, there were no gates, no podia, and no Nivea!
	Nivea, which is a cream for your elbows, has made the entire New Year's blue on Times Square, and it's ruined everything!
	Ha!
	And it's ruined.
	And you switch back and forth.
	It's just the whole thing is ruined.
	It used to be a crazy million people running around like...
	And now it's all controlled, programmed, scripted.
	I like Jenny McCarthy, but no.
	I like Carson Daly, but no.
	It's dumb.
	You talk about dumb things and you make me feel dumb and then we watch dumb commercials.
	It's dumb.
	That's why I went to bed.
	This is dumb.
	Well, you know, you were better off.
	We didn't get to see any of that because up at the northwestern bunker.
	We don't have any broadcast TVs.
	Mimi moved all the stuff around and she unhooked the antenna to the TV. And so everything's on Netflix.
	We either watch Netflix or through the Roku box.
	Everything's Roku.
	I got a new Roku, one of those Roku 3s.
	Boy, what a nice box.
	Wow, what an upgrade that is.
	I had no idea.
	Here's the cool thing about the Roku 3.
	I promised in the newsletter we'd talk a little tech, so this is it.
	Oh no, this is it?
	This is it.
	The Roku 3, the thing you've got to know about the Roku 3 is that it has a universal search function at the very beginning.
	So you can search for a movie and then it will find where it's available and all these other different services with the prices, corresponding prices.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's good.
	Wait a minute.
	Why should I go here for three dollars when I can see the same movie for free on Amazon?
	It really truly is an outstanding product.
	I hope those guys make money.
	I don't see how they...
	They're selling...
	And also just the whole idea.
	It's a little Linux thing they got in a little enclosure.
	I mean, it's beautifully done.
	I really like it.
	I don't like the fact that it's broadcasting like a Wi-Fi network for my remote control.
	That's new.
	I think that's dumb.
	There's no reason for that to do that that way.
	I actually had lunch with the CEO.
	Yeah.
	He's a nice guy.
	He's a real nerdy character.
	He's a nice guy.
	He's an accountant.
	He's not really a tech guy.
	He's kind of a tech guy because he's the guy who started to replay TV and he was neck and neck with TiVo.
	Those two guys, he's essentially the inventor of the DVR. He says you get better bandwidth over the internet now, if it's handled correctly.
	Well, I think they have new...
	They must have the H.264 decoding down.
	They've done it really well on this new Roku, where the quality picks up very quickly.
	And here, I can even do Time Warner Cable on the Roku, so now I don't even have to deal with their whole stupid idiot box, which...
	It pisses me off to no end.
	Rebooting a million times.
	L minus 10.
	L minus 9.
	Whenever they update their crappy ass interface.
	Alright, so a long way to get to the fact that we have people who produce this show, produce it with information, with propagation, and with financialization.
	So we have a lot of financialization people today.
	Good, good.
	We need it to kick off the year right.
	Kick off the year right.
	We're starting with David.
	We want to thank them.
	David Foley, who is now the Archduke.
	Of Silicon Valley.
	He's getting to Grand Duke.
	He's trying to catch up with Pelsmockers.
	If he gets into that group, he'll have the Eastern Hemisphere and fully have the Western Hemisphere.
	But he also gets a jingle then at that point.
	Yes, he will get a jingle at Grand Duke.
	In the morning, John and Adam, he closed 2398.63.
	Wow.
	And this is the 4K TV guy.
	What's his website again?
	4kspecial.com, I think?
	You can look it up while I'm...
	I'll check.
	I think it is.
	No, it's something else, I thought.
	Whatever the case, he didn't promote it this time.
	But I like to promote it just to annoy that one listener.
	It is 4kspecial.com.
	And if you use the code NOAGENDA, then you get $50 off.
	Okay.
	In close, please find my January donation to the best podcast in the universe.
	Hopefully this will kick off a great 2014 for the show.
	Thanks for all the great analysis.
	This donation should elevate me to the Archduke of Silicon Valley.
	Please send me some of that wonderful NOAGENDA karma for the upcoming month.
	You got it.
	Here you go, Archduke.
	Thank you so much.
	You've got karma.
	That is really, really appreciated.
	Yes, indeed.
	Now we have, it's Hey Idiot from Atlas McDonald, Concord, California.
	It's right up the street from me where the fries is.
	$579.11.
	This is the one person who heard the donation number, the 579-11.
	Yeah.
	Episode 579 and 11.
	Yeah.
	Nice.
	It's him.
	It's the only one in the club.
	He's in the club.
	Oh, no.
	Hey Idiot.
	Hey, Idiot!
	From Atlas McDonald.
	Long-time boner, first-time donor.
	That's the way to get started.
	But at least I've been linking HeyIdiot.com to the show.
	I didn't know that.
	Let me check that.
	That's good.
	I didn't realize that.
	Hey, it's Nick.com to the show and serving up the BitTorrent sync feed at 100 megabits per second since it started.
	So he's one of our...
	Thank you.
	He's doing a lot of work for us.
	He's a seeder.
	Where some shows sell seeds, we have seeders.
	Woo!
	Yeah, that's me.
	I'll give myself one for that.
	Finally, he felt ashamed enough to donate after hitting just a few folks in the mouth.
	Not a stellar year for me, but better than some, it appears.
	Would love to hear, John, you will obey.
	And thanks for your courage.
	You will obey.
	Nice.
	Well, thank you very much, Hey Idiot, from Atlas McDonald.
	That's very kind of you, and you will be not only an executive producer of Episode 579, you will also be the sole 579er club member.
	Anonymous from Anonymous, Michigan, 33333.
	Merry Christmas.
	Please keep my name and location anonymous.
	Thank you, Anonymous.
	Not complaining, just wondering about the email server from home, product, or in a box or instructions.
	Some sort of thing for the outliner AC uses.
	He wants information from you.
	Yes.
	Any easy instructions or product?
	This will be the day, by the way, when he documents something.
	Well, let me finish this and I'll say something.
	You guys and everyone that assists are the best.
	Much love.
	I also fast forward through donations, so if you happen to mention either email server or outliner, I'll only catch it if it's outside the donations.
	We say it, we say it.
	I have a hard enough time keeping up with the actual show.
	This is part of the show.
	Look at what you've missed in us just talking about just leading up to donations.
	This is so...
	Well, it's up to you.
	You need to do whatever you want.
	And it doesn't matter because you get enough value to provide us with value for not even listening to that.
	So, it's appreciated.
	Yeah.
	I have decided, well, I've got to think about it.
	The problem with the email server is you just have to be willing to want to do it.
	It's not all that hard.
	I can point to a million documents.
	There's no surefire way of doing these things because every situation is a little bit different.
	It's like cooking.
	I can give you a recipe, but you still have to, you know, your stove is different.
	The ingredients are going to be different sizes.
	You'll have different factors, different environment, different taste buds.
	And it takes a couple weeks to get it up and running.
	And, you know, you just have to, I don't care.
	I'm sorry.
	Stay with Gmail.
	And if you really, really care, if your reasons are pure for wanting to get off centralized services, you can figure it out.
	You can also go to little guys and go through them.
	Of course, you can work with people locally.
	Yeah, like my guy.
	But even that is, you know, to a degree...
	If you read all the documentation about what rights you have when you park your stuff at a third party, it's basically none.
	So it's better to own it.
	And even if you have infrastructure, even if you run a server in the cloud, if you run an Amazon EC2 or something on Rackspace, they cannot...
	Legally, of course, technically, but legally they can't do the same that they do with Gmail.
	They can't just call up Rackspace and say, break into that guy's box.
	That is not allowed.
	There's a big difference.
	I think the post office should open some system and make a law that protects it some way like they do with the regular mail.
	Anyway, let's get on with the donation.
	Meanwhile, of course, he didn't get any of this because he just fast-forwarded.
	He didn't hear any of what I just said.
	Yeah, it's ironic.
	Edward Sheets from Parts Unknown, $320.
	I do not have a note.
	Oh, he's got a note in the next one.
	He gave us $320 twice?
	Yeah.
	Ooh.
	Yep.
	Well, that puts him up to the 640 mark, but he wants 320.
	Finally, mac and cheese.
	By the way, I got a great mac and cheese.
	Oh, never mind.
	Finally, mac and cheese my way to knighthood.
	Math below.
	Been donating for several years and have not asked for any karma, etc.
	So may I ask for a de-douching, then relationship karma?
	Also, is it possible to add Cuban cigars and single malt scotches to the knight's list?
	I'm doing it as we speak.
	I thought it was already on there, something like that.
	No, we have long-haired heavy metal guys in Scotch.
	But that's more like the cheap, you know, the cheap Johnny, not even John.
	Cuban cigars should be on there, he's right.
	Cuban cigars and single malt Scotch.
	Then he says in all caps, you guys rock!
	And then he says, how do I apply for the ring?
	You go to nogeneration.com slash ring and you'll find it.
	All right, dedouching and a karma for you, my friend.
	You've been dedouched.
	You've got karma.
	Ooh, and thank you for that double shot!
	Guy Boazi.
	Guy Boazi.
	Guy Boazi in...
	Rehovot.
	Rehovot.
	Oh, no, he's in Illinois.
	It's Rehovot.
	No, he's in Israel.
	Oh, he's in Israel.
	Why does it say Illinois?
	Don't you remember Guy Boazi is the guy who sent the...
	Oh, Guy Boazi, the Israeli guy.
	Yeah, he sent the tampons.
	2-22-22.
	I remember who's important in my life.
	And I cannot find a note from him.
	He's always the same.
	He loves us.
	He's really rocking it.
	Trying hard.
	Keep up the good work.
	Sack-a-2s.
	Sack-a-2s.
	Sir Scott Spencer, $201.40 from Dawsonville, Georgia.
	Black Knight Scott, I haven't donated in a while.
	Just thank you for the best podcast in the universe.
	201-40 for the good start to 2014.
	This is 2014 in there.
	Can I get a clippity-clop karma?
	She should be very entertaining over the next couple of years working toward Barron.
	That's a very good point, Sir Scott, and I think we should definitely bring on the clippity-clop karma.
	It's clippity-clop.
	The message is clear.
	Just clippity-clop.
	You've got karma.
	I can't wait.
	I'm so excited about Hillary this year.
	Yeah, this year's going to be a good one.
	She's got her face fixed.
	She's probably going to lose a couple pounds, maybe.
	She's going to lose Bill.
	Lose Bill?
	Well, that depends on our bet.
	We still wrote it down where Bill's going to be eliminated, but I'm guessing closer to the election.
	Or if she starts losing the primaries, then that's going to happen then.
	She does not want to do poorly in New Hampshire.
	Bill, you want to keep your eye on that.
	Yeah.
	Well, he'll be campaigning for it in New Hampshire, so nothing bad will happen.
	Dan Kravitz, 20140, again, same mean there at Princeton Junction.
	You know, we could have thought of this one, you know.
	I actually did think of it, but I decided to stick with 2-20-14, 2-0-1-4 for the masses.
	Oh, okay.
	Nice.
	But I thought about this, and I also thought about $2,000.
	You know, somebody wants to give us $2,014.
	I mean, I'm not going to...
	I think they can dream it up themselves.
	Happy New Year to the best podcast in the universe at the Dames and Nights, all the Dames and Nights producers, human resources to the lesser extent, all the freeloading boners out there.
	And he gave us $201.40 and he's a history major at Bard College in upstate New York.
	And your show is a source of valuable news and information as well as entertainment in my life being a brainwashed hipster, amongst brainwashed hipsters.
	I've been a listener for...
	I haven't put this whole note in because it's pretty funny.
	I've been a listener for a little over six months now and I'm totally hooked, which means that my life pre-NA was a total waste.
	I don't have many friends.
	Good riddance!
	The last few episodes have finally really been top-notch, and I've decided it was finally time to rid myself of the dreaded boner status.
	Luckily, it being the holiday season, I took advantage of my family in order to avoid actually chipping in my own money, of which I have basically none.
	So here's $201.40 to kick off the New Year's, keep up the good work and humorous analysis, and there'll be more of that where it came from.
	He's teasing me.
	I also like to call my long-distance girlfriend from St.
	Petersburg to the stage, Marina.
	Get your sweet Russian cheeks up there.
	She'll be making a conjugal visit to Gitmo Nation in February, and if you're lucky, Adam, I might just send you a picture.
	Can I get two to the head?
	Don't eat me, Hillary.
	Don't raff.
	And some karma for the road.
	I'm looking to become a certified massage therapist so I can squeeze some extra cash out of the trust fund babies I go to school with.
	That's a good note.
	Hey, kid, you should become a writer.
	That was a good note.
	I like that.
	Don't eat me, Hillary Clinton!
	Oh, wait, that's not the right one.
	We've had that problem before, haven't we?
	Hold on a second.
	What is that?
	I gotta get rid of that one.
	Hmm, here it is.
	I got it.
	Let me just get rid of that one altogether because I don't like it at all.
	It's not as good.
	No, no, no.
	Let's try this again.
	Here we go.
	Please don't eat me, Hillary Clinton!
	No, it's the same one.
	What is this?
	I don't know.
	Where is the don't eat me, Hillary Clinton?
	Where's the regular jingle?
	Ah, this is a problem.
	This is interesting.
	How can that happen?
	You know, what happens is we don't play these jingles for a long time, and...
	They get overwritten.
	No, no, certainly not overwritten, but it must be somewhere in a folder.
	Hold on a second.
	Here it is.
	Okay.
	One more time.
	Don't eat me, Hillary Clinton!
	Don't laugh!
	Why are you laughing?
	You've got karma.
	All right.
	Now I know where it is.
	I'm going to put it into the main bucket here.
	Yeah, you have to be reprised because Hillary's getting back into action here.
	I know.
	I've got to roll it all up into a handy little interface that works.
	Yeah, bring the show back up a notch.
	Sorry, I'm obviously sucking.
	And by the way, that was Don Kravitz in Princeton Junction, New Jersey.
	The Levite.
	The Lord's, James, Knights, Slaves, and Elites, please be outstanding for another donation from the Grand Duke, Ron Pelsmacher.
	So Stephen Pelsmacher showed up with a $201.40 donation from Belgium.
	Happy New Year to the...
	And he is, of course, the Duke.
	He's our number one patron at the moment.
	Although I see there's going to be competition.
	Happy New Year to the Guardians of Reality.
	May 2014 bring you much happiness and joy, some karma for you both, as well as for all the no-agenda peerage.
	Oh.
	Oh, very nice.
	I'm waiting.
	For...
	Karma.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I thought there was more coming.
	Yes.
	Karma, of course, we're Pelsmockers.
	You've got karma.
	Oh, sorry.
	It's actually for us and no agenda peerage.
	I'm sorry.
	I was working ahead.
	You were digging around.
	You were doing your taxes.
	Yes, clipping my nails.
	All right, so that concludes our donation, executive producer and associate executive producer donation segment for show 579 to start off year 2014.
	I want to thank all those great folks and Knights and Dukes and everyone in between.
	I remind you to go to devorek.org slash na channel, devorek.com slash na if that doesn't work.
	Also, NoAgendaNation and NoAgendaShow.com both have donation buttons which have alternate ways of getting us...
	Some production funds.
	They do indeed.
	And in the PR section of the show notes, I have a link.
	That's actually, I was looking for the email.
	I couldn't find it that quickly.
	But we have a new app for the No Agenda show for Windows Phone.
	Surely there's someone out there who has a Windows phone.
	That's great.
	I think it's fantastic.
	I don't think the Windows phone is a huge success by any means, but there's a number of people, and I think many people who would have a Windows phone might be interested in No Agenda.
	Yeah, this is Christian Schroeder, and it includes player with show notes, history of played episodes, and links to No Agenda websites.
	And it's in the Windows Phone store.
	WindowsPhone.com, but I have a direct link to it, and we appreciate that kind of work.
	That's important.
	I played with those Windows phones.
	It's no iPhone, but it was snappy and quick, and I can understand.
	I don't even see why.
	It doesn't look like a bad phone to me, quite honestly.
	No.
	No, it's actually usable.
	Yeah, it's totally usable.
	So we appreciate that work.
	Thank you very much to our executive producers, our associate executive producers, to our knights, our future knights who will be united today, our barons, baronets, etc.
	It really is you who makes this happen.
	Of course, not just with your financiality, but also with your actual contributions towards the show.
	You know who you are, you know what you're doing, and we appreciate it.
	Dvorak.org slash N-A And of course we always want everybody listening to go out and propagate the formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Order!
	Order!
	Shut up, slave!
	Shut up, slave!
	Alrighty then.
	Well, I spent...
	Of course, there's no news, so to speak.
	I spent a lot of time looking at turkey...
	Which we'll talk about later.
	There's quite a lot of...
	We have so many people who are actually in Turkey, who understand Turkey, who understand what's going on with the Gulenists versus the...
	And, oh, by the way, confirmed, it's not Erdogan, it's Erdogan.
	So it's kind of like in between a Dutch G and a W. Okay.
	The official pronunciation.
	Yeah, well, I'm never going to pronounce it that way.
	You can do whatever you want.
	But I also got...
	I almost got...
	Angry's not the word, but...
	I've had so much enough of this snow job that has been propagated on us, and just like Bitcoin...
	I need to point out some obvious things, too, and in particular, our kind of audience.
	I don't think it's our producers and listeners, per se, but it's the same profile of person, of job they have, where, you know, Bitcoin is, well, you know, let's just ignore the fact that the person who invented Bitcoin is non-existent.
	This has always baffled me that really intelligent people who would know a lot about technology are all over it and are willing to ignore the fact that Soshi Nakamoto, person, group, whatever, is just an unknown entity.
	That kind of, for me, compromises the whole thing.
	And the same is happening with this Snowden, Poitras, Grant Greenwald, shut up, Don Raff, Bart Gelman, And most importantly, Jacob Applebaum.
	I'd like to focus my knives on him today.
	Well, that would be good.
	You know, I had a...
	All of a sudden, Applebaum shows up with a bunch of these different...
	I'm glad you got some clips.
	Because actually, JC... Some clips?
	Holy crap.
	Some clips?
	He's showing up all over the place.
	And some of his assertions are weird.
	And I'm interested in this, too.
	Because Buzzkill Jr.
	sent me a bunch of these clips.
	I don't know what he was...
	What he was thinking.
	He was delirious from the flu.
	The boy is sick.
	I said back to him, I said, you know, this guy, this guy's not a guy that you should be.
	Apparently, meta filters all, you know, he's a hero to a bunch of nerds.
	Yes, yes, thank you.
	And that's really got to end.
	And that has to end.
	And as far as I'm concerned, it ends today.
	All right, go.
	A couple of things.
	So he did a keynote, quote-unquote, a speech, which Grant Greenwald did his keynote the day before at the Chaos Computer Club, their annual thing in Germany.
	Now, Jacob Applebone lives in Germany, as does Laura Poitras.
	And I am always just curious.
	Apparently, someone's paying him...
	I don't know what else he does.
	He, of course, is famously the inventor and programmer and writer of the Onion Router Tor.
	And this is the same thing with Bitcoin.
	And, of course, I need to drive one's attention to it so you really understand.
	Tor, it's one thing to write free software and to give away free software...
	Our Freedom Controller that we've actually opened up before, and when the outliner is fixed in that, there'll be another round of people can use it, and you can already get the source code now, do whatever you want.
	There's no money.
	We didn't take any money, and I'm talking about Dave Jones, who really did all the programming.
	But if you look at the sponsors of the Onion Router, and we know that this is a 5013C corporation, it does about $1.9 million in funds.
	The act of sponsors for 2013, as listed on the TorProject.org website, Broadcast Board of Governors, that is the FCC essentially, the government, SRI International.
	These are huge, huge non-profit organizations that have tons of money coming in from places like, oh, I don't know, the U.S. State Department, as is one of these sponsors, U.S. Department of State Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor.
	They will be sponsoring through 2015.
	We went through this previously.
	The Swedish International Development Cooperation Agency.
	The National Science Foundation.
	Radio Free Asia.
	The Knight Foundation.
	An anonymous North American ISP. The Ford Foundation.
	Famous for being anti-Semitic.
	The anonymous North American NGO. And then, of course, there's more than 4,300 personal donations from individuals like you.
	Now, if you look at past sponsors on this very same stage, and this is essentially Jacob Applebaum.
	Jacob, just him.
	There's no team that I know of, no huge development organization, no offices.
	The guys in Berlin taking all this money from, well, let's take a look.
	Google, Access Now, the Google Summer of Code, Human Rights Watch, all of these known NGOs with an agenda.
	But also, very interesting to see, in 2006, he received the Omidyar Network Enzyme Grant.
	So there is where the circle connects between Gren Greenralt, Pierre Omidyar, and Jacob Applebaum, who now also is apparently a journalist.
	As he coincided his...
	His hour-long speech with the release of all kinds of unbelievable information on Der Spiegel!
	Der Spiegel, I tell you!
	And I have clips where he's going to be referring to all this great information he put in Der Spiegel.
	And I don't know if you had a chance to read this article.
	The framing of this, to me, is very simple.
	This is more of make the NSA look like horrible, horrible black hat hackers who are out to...
	To penetrate your, not just your computer, but every orifice you have, and to protect the true evil that is going on, which is all the companies that he's taken money from, first of all.
	And, you know, the State Department runs lots of Tor nodes, lots of them.
	You can figure all this out.
	I think he is an agent trying to protect the true, whatever is really left of the true intelligence apparatus in America, which is decentralized services where people gladly build up their profile on Facebook and LinkedIn and Gmail and everything Google and Yahoo, because he protects those companies, the fascist companies, While yelling all kinds of total nonsense about other things.
	And he is indeed now seen as a hero, and it has to stop because I'm calling him out as an agent.
	So if you look at this Der Spiegel article, the first thing that really made me mad, which is very easy for everyone to just, you can Google this, he's trying to frame how many evil people are working at TAO, Which is Total Awareness Operation or whatever the hell is it.
	What does he call it?
	It'll come to me.
	Of the NSA. And here's how Der Spiegel frames it.
	And he's credited as one of the journalists now.
	The problem primarily affected residents in the western part of the city around Military Drive and the interstate highway known as Loop 410.
	In the United States, a country of cars and commuters, the mysterious garage door problem quickly became an issue for local politicians.
	Ultimately, the municipal government solved the riddle.
	Fault for the error lay with the United States Foreign Intelligence Service, the National Security Agency, which has offices in San Antonio.
	Officials at the agency were forced to admit that one of the NSA's radio antennas was broadcasting at the same frequency as the garage door openers.
	Embarrassed officials at the Intelligence Agency promised to resolve the issue as quickly as possible, and soon the doors began opening again.
	It was thanks to the garage door opener episode that Texans learned just how far the NSA's work had encroached upon their daily lives.
	For quite some time now, the Intelligence Agency has maintained a branch with around 2,000 employees at Lackland Air Force Base, also in San Antonio.
	So he's saying, essentially, because of these 2,000 employees, and they started broadcasting the secret signals...
	So if you look into this, so that's the framing.
	He's trying to frame and say, you've got secret shit going on, people!
	I happen to be a licensed amateur radio operator, and there's all kinds of open source information about who is allowed to broadcast where and what.
	And this actually started in 2005, when the Department of Defense, not the NSA per se, the Department of Defense, They started their LMR system,
	the land mobile radio system, which was for all of the DOD, not just the NSA. And there are stories going back to 2005, not 2010, but back to 2005, even in Canada, Scandinavia, And I have these links in the show notes.
	When this started to happen, and if you look at garage door openers, and there was fair warning that the LMR was going to be on the 350 megahertz frequency in that range, which is what these non-unlicensed and there was fair warning that the LMR was going to be on the 350 megahertz And the rule with Part 15 from the, it's 390 megahertz.
	The rule from Part 15 is that you may use very low power on certain frequencies, frequencies, but you have to yield to priorities and priority licensors, licensees of the frequency, which the government, they sent out their information, said, hello, garage door guys, we're going to start operating our LMR globally, but really we're going to start operating our LMR globally, but really all across the United States on this frequency.
	And they ignored it.
	Right, they were told to go to 315.
	Yes, and they ignored it.
	And this is the framing of your huge...
	No, I just want to set it up that...
	Yeah, no, I agree.
	No, I think you're right.
	And they ignored it because they're just lazy.
	Right, but for Der Spiegel to frame an entire NSA is evil with this does not bode well for the journalism contained therein as far as I'm concerned.
	It doesn't bode well for the article.
	No, it does not.
	It's really stupid.
	They looked into it and some lawyers are crooked.
	Now, Applebaum, if you look at his Wikipedia entry, has pretty much worked for the government.
	You know, so why all of a sudden everyone is so accepting of him as some hero is beyond me.
	It truly is beyond me.
	If you look at his Wikipedia page...
	I'm going to go do that.
	Yeah, in fact, I'll play the jingle.
	Independent computer security researcher and hacker.
	He was employed by the University of Washington, a core member of the TOR project, represented WikiLeaks at the HOPE conference.
	Yeah, that's when he popped onto the scene.
	I love this picture of him on the Wikipedia.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Terrible.
	Oh, yeah.
	So he's essentially...
	By the way, Laura Poitras does this, too.
	Well, hold on.
	Let's go back for a second, because this is very important.
	He was brought into this by Laura Poitras.
	Now, Laura Poitras, I have yet to see a serious interview, a serious analysis of who she is, and both Poitras and Applebaum are doing something that I'm going to start doing.
	John, how many years did the United States stop me and investigate me at the border?
	How many years?
	Let me just quote right from this because it applies to you.
	He has subsequently been repeatedly targeted by U.S. law enforcement agencies.
	How many?
	I went two, maybe three years.
	I could not get into the country without being questioned for hours.
	And what's great about this...
	You're being targeted, my friend.
	Both Laura Poitras and Applebaum have no proof.
	They have no proof that they were held at the border.
	There's no proof.
	They're just saying it.
	I don't have the proof either.
	I mean, how can I prove that happened?
	They don't give you a note and say...
	You wore a wire one time, if you remember.
	Did I wear a wire?
	Yeah.
	Did we record that?
	Yeah.
	Did we broadcast it?
	Yeah.
	And we should find that.
	I was wearing a wire.
	Wasn't that interesting.
	I was like, yeah.
	So this gives...
	This is Laura Poitras' entire credibility, and Applebaum's, is that they've been stopped by the U.S. Customs.
	My wife gets thrown into the fish tank every single time she arrives at U.S. Customs.
	She's being targeted, my friend.
	She's being targeted.
	We're both being targeted.
	So this is not credibility.
	It's bullshit.
	You fucking shill.
	I'm sorry, I get really mad about this.
	Alright, so Poitras, now if no one has read the...
	She does the same thing.
	Now he was detained with an actual number.
	Detained him 12 times at the US border after trips abroad.
	Exactly.
	And seized the laptop.
	Yeah.
	Poitras.
	Now, Poitras is very interesting.
	If you have not read about the IED attack when she was in Iraq and happened to be up on the roof...
	In fact, I'm going to find the exact article for you because I think it is quite important.
	You've read about this, haven't you, John?
	Here it is.
	U.S. soldiers allege Poitras co-author of NSA... Oh, yeah.
	No, no.
	We had a clip.
	We had a clip describing the situation where Poitras apparently had set these guys up and guys were killed in the process.
	That's why the military hates her.
	Yeah, the military does not like her.
	And she lied about this setup.
	So what happened was, as she was filming, she was staying with what was thought to be the kingpin of this IED attack in Iraq, in, where was it?
	I'll have to find it here.
	I've got the links in the show notes.
	She was up on the roof filming when this IED attack took place.
	A couple of guys got hurt badly.
	I think one or two died.
	And then she denied it, but later she wrote an email, which has been published.
	She said, yeah, no, I was on the roof.
	I was filming.
	And in other words, she knew that this was going to take place, and she did not tell her fellow countrymen Hey, you know...
	You're going to get killed.
	No, she felt it was more important to get the footage, which makes her the traitor, in my mind.
	And she's never been prosecuted for that or anything.
	It's someone who does that for love of film, cinema...
	She really needs to check herself.
	That's really very, very low.
	And the U.S. military does not like her for this very reason.
	The words got out.
	However she somehow is getting her money, we know that she's a MacArthur Fellow, so she got some money from there, but she is certainly not to be trusted.
	But anyway, so she somehow is the one that Snowden reaches out to.
	Why this happens, you know, we have our thoughts about this being a CIA operation who do the real work, who really do kill people.
	They do wet work.
	They kill people on the street.
	They kill people anywhere they need to.
	They kill people with drones.
	And they truly are building the Internet of Things.
	They have their investments in all companies that are now being protected, interestingly enough, by Applebaum.
	But the NSA, the pansy boys, and the technology that is, oh, so scary, it's so scary, it's all so scary!
	This is what Applebaum is promoting.
	So I took his hour and I chopped it up.
	I got a lot of clips, but most of them are very, very short.
	But I want to dissect this, and I think it's important to us that we need to help people understand this guy may not be your friend.
	I certainly don't think he's any kind of hero.
	And there's an addition to this, John.
	I think there's a gay thing going on.
	We're obviously proponents of anyone doing whatever they want to do.
	Well, there is a mention, I should say in the Wikipedia article, that he worked for Kink.com.
	And I don't know what he did there, but he was...
	What is Kink.com?
	It's an internet pornography operation out of San Francisco.
	Probably working out of the armory now.
	No, this is where they had the whole...
	His technology was running servers that had pedo-bear crap on it.
	Yeah, a lot of BDSM stuff, catfighting fetishes.
	But I think...
	I think there is a...
	Because maybe these people are being controlled through sexuality or some other thing.
	Look at Greenwald.
	I'm pretty sure Applebaum's gay, and I'm pretty sure Laura Poitras is gay.
	I would not...
	I would say just by appearances and also the way they act when they're on the interviews.
	I don't think there's any question about that.
	Right, but...
	I'm always worried when you bring in sexuality into spying, it goes hand in hand somehow.
	I'm not sure how it fits in, but some of that may become apparent in some of these clips.
	So first, here is Applebaum framing his speech.
	So, what's it all about, though?
	Fundamentally, it's about control, baby.
	Okay, so he's also trying to do schtick.
	Control baby, he said that?
	Yes, he's trying to do Austin Powers' shtick on stage, and there's no rafter.
	And that is what we're going to get into.
	It's not just about control of machines.
	What happened with Rafal is about control of people.
	And fundamentally, when we talk about things like internet freedom, and we talk about...
	Hold on.
	When someone uses internet freedom, they're on the wrong side of the debate, as far as I'm concerned.
	About tactical surveillance and strategic surveillance, we're talking about control of people through the machinery that they use.
	And this is a really, I think, a really kind of, you know, I'm trying to make you laugh a little bit, because what I'm going to show you today is risks living depressing.
	So this is a common theme of him framing this.
	Now, there's about 6,000 people in the audience who have paid for this, and I'm going to just guess that if you have the Chaos Computing Club's annual conference...
	The 30C3. I'm going to guess that maybe there's some spies and intelligence operatives in the audience.
	I'm just guessing.
	And maybe there's one on stage.
	And everything this particular guy says is scary.
	It's frightening.
	It's scary.
	It's wrist-slitting, depressing.
	Basically, the NSA, they want to be able to spy on you.
	And if they have 10 different options for spying on you that you know about, they have 13 ways of doing it, and they do all 13.
	What does that mean?
	What does that mean?
	I think he's slipping up.
	And as you'll hear in a lot of what he's talking about in this speech, he's exposing things that he is privy to that have never been discussed by Snowden.
	Or has not been released in public by Snowden, that's for sure.
	But also not by Glenn Greenwald or Bart Gelman.
	And remember, Applebaum also had an interview with Snowden.
	And he published that.
	And Snowden had kind of a different voice in that interview.
	It was a little more snarky.
	And so who the hell knows if he even actually spoke with them.
	But I'm telling you, Applebaum is not clean.
	So that's a pretty scary thing.
	Scary.
	Scary.
	Basically, their goal is to have total surveillance of everything that they're interested in.
	So there really is no boundary to what they want to do.
	There is only sometimes a boundary of what they are funded to be able to do, and the amount of things they're able to do at scale They seem to just do those things without thinking too much about it.
	This is all subjective conjecture.
	He has no proof for this.
	And I'm not defending the NSA, but this guy, I know a pitch man when I see one.
	I know a huckster and a shuckster when I hear one.
	This guy is selling you something.
	The tactical things where they have to target a group or an individual, and those things seem limited either by budgets or simply by their time.
	And as we have released today on Der Spiegel's website, which it should be live, I just checked, it should be live for everyone here.
	Wait a minute.
	I'm sorry.
	That would be the supporting sales materials in Der Spiegel where we set up the really scary fact that the NSA used the national land mobile radio system and it screwed up garage door openers that were legacy.
	Yeah.
	We actually show a whole bunch of details about their budgets as well as the individuals involved with the NSA and the Tailored Access Operations Group in terms of numbers.
	The Tailored Access Operations Group.
	So here he is talking about that one specific thing, John.
	The numbers.
	There's 2,000 people who are ruining garage door openers.
	So it should give you a rough idea showing that there was a small period of time in which the internet was really free and we did not have people from the US military that were watching over it and exploiting everyone on it.
	And now we see every year that the number of people who are hired to break into people's computers as part of grand operations, those people are growing day by day actually.
	And every year there are more and more people that are allocated and we see this growth.
	Oh, my God.
	Well, I'm so happy you see the growth.
	He says they're exploiting everyone.
	This is his entire speech is not about Google giving your information to the government.
	It is not about Yahoo giving your information to the government.
	It's not about Mueller hanging out the Facebook.
	In fact, Facebook is not even mentioned once in this entire speech.
	It is all about low-level technical hacks and cracks that may, you know, to me, it's like get smart chaos 1950s.
	So what?
	This is chicken shit compared to what's really going on, but this is what is happening.
	He's taking a group of very intelligent people and is snowing them.
	I mean, listen to his proof.
	There is a planetary strategic surveillance system, and there are many of them, actually.
	Everything from, I think, off-planetary surveillance gear, which is probably the National Reconnaissance Office, and their satellite systems for surveillance, like the keyhole satellites.
	These are all things, for the most part, we actually know about these things.
	They're on Wikipedia.
	Oh!
	Well, of course!
	It's on Wikipedia, so of course.
	Yeah, of course.
	Now, it's not that I don't want to believe this, but what kind of speech are you doing where you're saying, oh, they have off-world listening devices.
	That's the NRO. Of course, they're shooting stuff in space all the time.
	But because it's on Wikipedia, that's your proof?
	Please, don't insult me.
	But I want to talk a little bit more about the Internet side of things because I think that's really fascinating.
	It's really fascinating.
	What is that accent from?
	He says, part and important.
	What kind of accent is that?
	Is that like a Buffalo, New York accent?
	Or where is that from?
	It's one of those accents that is, I think is milieu-based, that you will not find, you know, as a general, unless it's like, it's a community-based accent.
	You'll never really discover, you'll find other people that have the accent, like we had with Soledad O'Brien and the group of women that have this kind of unctuous way of presenting and reading, which somebody I think described as sitting on the toilet trying to take a crap.
	But you won't find it as...
	I don't think you're...
	We'd have to find some really good linguists that could identify it.
	I don't know.
	Just a note.
	The first thing that I see in the chat room is, Adam is spreading disinfo.
	He hasn't even watched the presentation.
	You know what?
	Fuck you.
	How do you clip it without watching it?
	Thank you.
	How can you even spray it?
	How can you even say that?
	Ban that guy.
	Yeah, kick him off.
	Leasing today with Der Spiegel, or what has actually been released, just to be clear on the timeline, I'm not disclosing it first.
	I'm working as an independent journalist, summarizing the work that we have already released onto the internet as part of a publication house that went through a very large editorial process in which we redacted all the names of agents and information about those names, including their phone numbers and email addresses.
	Now, explain this applause to me.
	So he just goes through this whole thing which is barely understandable.
	I didn't do this by myself.
	We worked with a huge organization.
	We talked to everyone.
	We redacted them.
	And no agents' names were exposed and everybody's clapping.
	Are they the agents in the audience?
	Yeah.
	It must be.
	They're all happy.
	Thanks for not exposing me, man.
	Yeah, I have to quit and go work for General Motors.
	I mean, that is literally what I'm hearing.
	Am I nuts?
	No, I think that's exactly...
	Why else would you clap?
	Why are they clapping for this?
	Numbers and email addresses.
	And I should say that I actually think that the laws here are wrong because they are in favor of an oppressor who is criminal.
	So when we redact the names of people who are engaged in criminal activity...
	Yeah, listen to it.
	This is very interesting.
	I know, listen.
	Including drone murder, we are actually...
	No, no, hold on.
	Back that up.
	He's talking about drone murder.
	NSA doesn't run drones.
	We redact the names of people who are engaged in criminal activity, including drone murder.
	We are actually not doing the right thing, but I believe that we should comply with the law in order to continue to publish.
	Okay, so he's saying that somehow he knows, he has information that he has received from people who are involved in criminal activity committing drone murder, which really would be the CIA, but okay.
	And they've decided not to publish that so that they can continue to publish.
	Dude, if you know that someone in the government is involved in actual criminal activity and murder, you need to be a real hero and fess up with that.
	That's not okay.
	And he makes it worse.
	I think it may be illegal not to.
	He's saying that that's not the way...
	No, he says...
	No, no, but I'm just saying, there may be a statute...
	That if you see that, it may be true.
	That if you see something, you must say something in this instance.
	He's saying, I want to release the names, but I can't because otherwise we can't publish.
	Well, what's more important?
	No, no, no.
	That's what he said.
	Well, I know that's what he said.
	The whole thing is, it's just bull.
	None of this is true.
	He has no list of drone murderers.
	Now he makes it even worse by hedging and saying, well, you know...
	Sometimes it's legitimate what the NSA does.
	I'm flabbergasted that no one is throwing watermelons at this guy.
	We also redacted the names of victims of NSA surveillance because we think that there's a balance.
	Unfortunately, there is a serious problem, which is that the U.S. government asserts that you don't have standing to prove that you've been surveilled unless we release that kind of information.
	But we don't want to release that kind of information in case it could be a legitimate target and A legitimate target?
	Hold on a second.
	I thought that this was all wrong.
	But no, no, maybe there's some legitimate targets.
	What is this term?
	I'm really uncomfortable with that term, but let's say that there is a legitimate target, the most legitimate target, and we didn't want to make that decision, but we did also want to make sure that we didn't harm someone, but we also wanted to show concrete examples.
	So if you look at the Spiegel stuff online, we redacted the names even of those who were victimized by the NSA's oppressive tactics.
	Which I think actually goes further than is necessary, but I believe that it strikes the right balance to ensure continued publication and also to make sure that people are not harmed and that legitimate good things, however rare they may be, they are also not harmed.
	Who talks like that?
	An agent!
	He sounds like an...
	Yeah.
	Now, what is one of our main theories about the NSA? Is this really about espionage?
	And it's about corporate espionage.
	And blackmail.
	And blackmail.
	But, you know, that's a part of the espionage.
	And he talked a lot about this particular technology, which collaboratively is called QFIRE. And when I heard this, I'm like, oh, okay, that makes total sense in our theory.
	Q-Fire is essentially a way to programmatically look at things that flow across the internet that they see with turmoil, and then using Turbine, they're able to actually inject packets to try to do attacks.
	Interesting thing about Q-Fire also is that they have a thing that's called a diode.
	Q-Fire has this really neat little detail, which is that they compromise other people's routers and then redirect through them so that they can beat the speed of light.
	Oh, where did I hear that before?
	Beating the speed of light.
	Do you recall the Federal Reserve meeting notes were leaked and beat the speed of light not more than six, seven weeks ago?
	Well, this has happened a number of times.
	This is the front-loading kind of, where the announcement was supposed to happen at 2 o'clock exactly.
	And somehow, through some mystery mechanism, I guess this is it, the message gets to a few insiders at...
	Yeah, before the speed of light could have...
	Two minutes before the speed of light would have made it.
	Yeah.
	So, thank you.
	Now, and he goes into a lot of detail about that, that you go watch the whole thing if you want to learn.
	And actually, he's pretty bad at explaining it.
	But I'm like, okay, yeah, that makes sense.
	Sure, these guys use that to cheat.
	They use a diode.
	Yeah, apparently a diode.
	And then I was so surprised.
	We don't have to worry about a thing, John.
	The NSA is not looking for you.
	They're not looking for me.
	And as far as I can tell, it's being used for at-scale exploitation, which is not really, in my mind, a targeted, particularized type of thing, but rather it's fishing operations, it's fishing expeditions, it's more like fishing crusades, if you will.
	And in some cases, looking at the evidence, that seems to be what it is.
	Targeting Muslims, I might add.
	Oh.
	Because that's what they're interested in doing.
	Oh, okay.
	That's news.
	They're only targeting Muslims, apparently.
	Where did this show up in the documentation?
	I don't know.
	I never heard this.
	No.
	Now let's go back and catch him in a huge lie, and he starts to ramp up his holding the hand above the heads of the U.S. fascist companies who are complicit with the government and are giving your information to the government just for money.
	As far away as 8 miles.
	This is about the packet injection that can be done as far away from 8 miles.
	And just to make sure you're scared, he's going to lie about something he has no proof for.
	To inject packets.
	So presumably, using this, they're able to exploit a kernel vulnerability of some kind, parsing the wireless frames.
	And, yeah, I've heard that they actually put this hardware from sources inside of the NSA and inside of other intelligence agencies that...
	They actually put this type of hardware on drones so that they fly them over areas that they're interested in, and they do mass exploitation of people.
	Now, we don't have a document...
	What?
	No, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
	You're killing the punchline.
	Back it up.
	Now, we don't have a document that substantiates that part, but we do have this document that actually claims that they've done it from up to eight miles away.
	So he has a product sheet...
	That is a device that up to 8 miles away can inject packets through wireless data frames.
	And he makes up by saying, I know from people inside the intelligence agency, they put this in drones and fly over and compromise everybody in one fell swoop.
	I can't prove that, but I've heard about it.
	Come on, Applebaum.
	No, all he has is that this thing will do eight miles.
	Okay, great.
	Fabulous.
	Again, bull trap.
	But it also doesn't matter.
	They don't have enough people in the world to deal with all this.
	This is not where the true intelligence gathering is taking place.
	Let's listen to him talk about the companies.
	Here's the ramp up.
	So that's a really interesting thing because it tells us that they understand that common wireless cards, probably running Microsoft Windows, which is an American company, that they know about vulnerabilities and they keep them a secret to use them.
	Now this is not a throwaway line, this American company thing.
	This becomes this common theme.
	This is part of a constant theme of sabotaging and undermining American companies and American ingenuity.
	Boo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo!
	They're undermining American companies and American ingenuity!
	It's just the opposite of what's going on.
	Exactly.
	Oh, but wait!
	It's time for some credibility!
	I want to make a couple points clear.
	This wasn't clear, even though it was written in the New York Times by my dear friend, Laura Poitras, who is totally fantastic, by the way.
	Woo-hoo!
	You're great.
	Oh yes, you're great!
	You're great!
	You're great!
	Laura Poitras, my dear friend, you're great!
	Hey, thanks for killing those soldiers!
	Now this company thing, this is, so I'm glad you're picking up on it.
	So Emperor Alexander, the head of the NSA, really has a lot of power.
	If they want to right now, they'll know that the IMEI of this phone is interesting, it's very warm, which is another funny thing.
	So he pulls out an iPhone and it's like, oh yeah, they can hack it right now.
	It's warm.
	Oh yeah, they must be rooting around in it as we speak.
	That's obvious.
	And they would be able to break into this phone almost certainly and then turn on the microphone.
	And all without a court.
	So that to me is really scary.
	Very scary.
	I especially dislike the fact that if you were to be building these types of things, they treat you as an opponent if you wish to be able to fulfill the promises that you make to your customers.
	Now listen to what he's saying.
	If you want to build these things, like Apple builds iPhones, or like, he brings it back to him a lot, I build free software!
	I build free software!
	And I don't want to...
	They're against me!
	And as someone who writes security software, I think that's bullshit.
	Oh, it's bullshit!
	Now, taking money from Google and Pierre Omidyar and the Naval Research Laboratory and the State Department, that's bullshit!
	Apple bomb.
	So if the NSA wanted to, tomorrow they could kill every anonymity system that exists...
	Of course!
	...by just forcing everyone who connects to an anonymity system to reset.
	That's scary!
	Just the same way that the Chinese do.
	Scary!
	Right now, in China, with the Great Firewall of China.
	Oh!
	So that's like the NSA built the equivalent of the Great Firewall of Earth.
	Oh, yes!
	The firewall!
	That's scary!
	That's, uh...
	To me, that's a really scary, heavy-handed thing.
	Scary.
	And I'm sure they only use it for good...
	More schtick!
	But, yeah, back here in reality, that to me is a really scary thing, especially because Scary!
	One of the ways that they are able to How many times do you have to use the word scary?
	It's throughout the whole speech.
	That's why I took that clip specifically.
	And here comes scary, scary, scary.
	So here comes the dumbest of all gay jokes.
	In fact, it is a gay death joke, really, which makes it so unfunny.
	And this is where I'm like, why are you doing this?
	And the audience is uncomfortable.
	I don't think anyone got the joke.
	It was like, whoa!
	So, there was a joke, you know, when you download MP3s, you ride with communism from the 90s.
	Do you remember this great joke?
	When you download MP3s, you ride with communism.
	Who made that joke?
	I don't remember this joke.
	I don't remember that joke at all.
	But he's going to use this joke to take it into an even worse joke.
	So, there was a joke, you know, when you download MP3s, you ride with communism from the 90s.
	Some of you may remember this.
	When you bear back with the internet, you ride with the NSA. When you bear back on the internet, you ride with the NSA. A bareback, of course, is a sexual term for not using any protection, usually used in gay porn.
	Yeah, it's a gay term.
	Oh, gay!
	Yes, very funny, very funny.
	Are you getting a ride?
	Going for a ride?
	Yeah, I'm going to get AIDS from the NSA. Is that what you're saying?
	What are you trying to say, Applebaum?
	Play it again so we can get it, because he had a little punchline at the end.
	He tried to make up for this.
	Nah, he doesn't.
	So, there was a joke, you know, when you download MP3s, you ride with communism from the 90s.
	Some of you may remember this.
	When you bareback with the internet, you ride with the NSA. Or you're getting a ride, going for a ride.
	Stick to your lies and stop with the shtick.
	Okay, now he's off track.
	Why is he clearing his throat so much?
	When you're lying and you're nervous about lying and you're up on stage and you're shilling to protect the very companies that have given you money...
	The very people who have given you money, i.e.
	the State Department, Google, Pierre Omidyar, these very...
	And by the way, if you look for the Enzyme Grant from 2006, you Google it, you can look through all the Omidyar network.
	They do not even recognize...
	There's not a single mention of this award, of the Enzyme Grant.
	There's not a single mention of the TOR project, but it's all over, you see, all over his materials.
	How does that happen?
	That they just denounce, renounce their award?
	They don't talk about it anymore?
	What non-profit removes an award from their website?
	None.
	It never happens.
	So I don't think it happened that way.
	It doesn't matter.
	There's more nuttiness.
	He's off the rails.
	Fox Acid is essentially like a watering hole type of attack where you go to a URL, quantum insert, puts like an iframe or puts some code in your web browser, which you then execute, which then causes you to load resources.
	One of the resources that you load, where you're loading CNN.com, for example, which is one of their examples, You like that, by the way?
	So, you know, that's an extremist site.
	So, you might have heard about that.
	A lot of Republicans in the United States read it.
	So, right before they wage illegal imperialist wars.
	Okay.
	So, you go to CNN.com.
	You might have heard of this site.
	It is a, what do you say, terrorist site or whatever.
	A lot of Republicans read it before they wage imperialistic illegal wars.
	Is this the kind of information that people accept in these intelligent computer hacking circles?
	Republicans read CNN? Before they wage illegal wars?
	The point is that...
	What?
	Imperialistic wars.
	Let's hear it again.
	Verses that you'll load where you're loading CNN.com, for example, which is one of their examples.
	You like that, by the way?
	So, you know, that's an extremist site.
	So, you might have heard about that.
	A lot of Republicans in the United States read it.
	So...
	Right before they wage illegal imperialist wars.
	So the point is that you go to a Fox asset server and it basically does a survey of your box.
	You know, what is his agenda?
	I'm sorry?
	Only Republicans read CNN? Before they wage imperialistic wars?
	I don't know man, your Democratic president is the one pulling the trigger.
	I'm going to speed up a little bit.
	Let's just talk about how...
	This is like this guy...
	Yeah, yeah, this is a good...
	This is not...
	This is pretty straightforward stuff.
	I mean, this guy is just...
	I don't know why he's become such a cause celeb.
	Oh, but don't you see...
	And what's he living in...
	What's the Berlin thing going on?
	What is the Berlin angle here?
	Well, I would subject that Poitras and Applebaum are agents for the Germans.
	Berlin has a huge base.
	Yeah, it's like Vienna.
	No, but Berlin has a huge base for the German intelligence.
	Right.
	Brand new building.
	Didn't somebody mention their apartment or wherever they're staying is nearby?
	Yes!
	So they can walk to work?
	Yes!
	Why doesn't anyone even suggest that?
	Let it be me.
	I think these people are agents for the Germans.
	Why else all of a sudden is it so important that Angela Merkel has been spied on?
	Because that's their boss as far as I'm concerned.
	And you know, the Germans are very angry they're not in the Five Eyes.
	This is not all that hard to comprehend, but because he goes into this detail with literally just a couple of boxes on a PowerPoint slide and says, this is what it is.
	Are they real NSA documents?
	They look authentic.
	Does it show me code?
	Does it show it working in the field?
	Do you have any proof of the drones flying over and compromising everyone's wireless networking frames?
	Can you imagine the scrambled spaghetti you'd get if you were at 40,000 feet, which is 8 miles, and you were trying to pick up all the Wi-Fi signals, which you can't detect at that time?
	I don't care what you say.
	No, that's not true.
	As you know, on 9-11, people were able to call from their cell phones.
	So you know that that is absolutely technically possible.
	But this is the problem.
	Because the people in this audience are being...
	This is a psychological operation of epic proportions.
	And these people who are very intelligent are not thinking straight.
	Yeah, I'm against the government.
	95% of the show is based on that.
	But when you're being duped by an obvious...
	Clearly the guy has been paid by...
	He's not even ashamed of saying it.
	He's been paid by the State Department.
	He's been paid by Google.
	He's been paid by all these people.
	He's lying to you.
	Now, another interesting point is that for the Yahoo packet to be beaten, the NSA must impersonate Yahoo.
	This is a really important detail because what it tells us is that they are...
	This, by the way, sounds exactly like stuff that ISPs do and that British Telecom was setting up to provide you with different advertising.
	It's like deep packet inspection.
	And I think that's what this technology essentially is, is to beat the packets from the advertiser to inject different advertising.
	Yeah, no, this is a very common practice.
	Yeah, but he's making it sound like you're going to Yahoo to get, I don't know, some news, and they're changing the information and sending it back to you with different information.
	Like, what is the point?
	What?
	To show me that Duck Dynasty?
	They're giving you different stories.
	Duck Dynasty is not true.
	The guy, he loves gays.
	It's not true.
	Essentially conscripting Yahoo and saying that they are Yahoo.
	So they are impersonating a U.S. company to a U.S. company user.
	And they are not actually supposed to be in this conversation at all.
	Another U.S. company.
	When they do it, then they, of course, basically, if you're using Yahoo, you're definitely going to get owned.
	Maybe if Yahoo had, I don't know, granted some money to your Tor project, maybe you wouldn't be fucking with them like this.
	Why single out Yahoo?
	If you're using Yahoo, you're going to get owned because you're an idiot.
	And that Yahoo is vulnerable, they are, but I mean, people that use Yahoo tend to, maybe it's a bad generalization, but, you know, they're not the most security conscious people.
	Oh, you're a dick.
	You're stupid, you Yahoo user you, because they didn't spend any money on me like Google did.
	Yeah, I think you're dead on on this.
	This sounds like, you know, this is like a Jesse Jackson tactic.
	Are you supporting this operation?
	Are you supporting the Rainbow Coalition?
	The Rainbow Coalition, exactly.
	Yeah, well, you're not supporting us.
	Well, you know, you've got to take a look at your minority hiring.
	All right, so let's get to the crux of what he's really trying to do, which is protect the companies, mainly the ones that have paid him in the past.
	From any persecution.
	This is the same thing that we talked about the other day on some tech shows where they're saying, Oh, the tech companies, they're outraged.
	They're so mad because they're getting blamed.
	And they went to the president and said, President, we're not having this anymore.
	Stop.
	We're not doing anything bad.
	And Applebaum has been paid.
	Now, we're going to name a bunch of companies because fuck those guys, basically, for collaborating when they do, and fuck them for leaving us vulnerable when they do.
	Ah, let's name some names.
	Fuck those guys.
	Oh, let's see, who are we going to say?
	Fuck you, Apple.
	Fuck you, Google.
	Fuck you, Yahoo.
	What else?
	LinkedIn, Twitter, Skype, Microsoft.
	All of that?
	Yeah, no, no.
	Oh, gee, no.
	Fuck those guys!
	I'm gonna name names!
	I'm bad!
	I say that in the most loving way.
	Because some of them are victims, actually.
	Oh!
	Some of them are victims, John.
	Maybe the ones that paid him.
	Important to note that we don't yet understand which is which.
	So it's important to name them so that they have to go on record.
	And so that they can say where they are, and so that they can give us enough rope to hang themselves.
	So, what did he say?
	I love this term where he messes this one up.
	One record.
	And so that they can say where they are, and so that they can give us enough rope to hang themselves.
	They can give us enough rope to hang themselves.
	Yeah, he's got it backwards.
	Yeah, it's because he's lying that he's got it backwards.
	I really want that to happen because I think it's important to find out who collaborated and who didn't collaborate.
	Okay, so now we're getting down to it.
	Who collaborated and who didn't collaborate?
	Are you a collaborator?
	That's right.
	And if you're a collaborator, we're going to shave all your hair off.
	And he likes, by the way, where is he giving the speech?
	He's what?
	Where is he giving his speech?
	In Berlin.
	A collaborator is a term that's not really recognized too much by Americans, but it's a very nasty term.
	For Nazi collaborators.
	And in Germany in particular, because it's for the East Germans, they were collaborating with the evil government.
	And this is a charged word.
	He used it for a reason.
	Yes.
	And it's very interesting.
	I'm watching the chat room out of the corner of my eye, and the chat room is not understanding what we're doing.
	Because I think a lot of people who are in IRC chat rooms, command line, really want to believe what this guy is selling.
	And I'm willing to put my ass on the line and to be burned, which is what we'll get.
	We'll get a lot of emails, I'm sure.
	But one day, some of you will thank me.
	Now...
	You know, this is, again, the chat room goes back into its normal, sour-quality state.
	Yeah.
	It's like milk, you know, once it goes bad.
	So we have this...
	Now, here's one of the big things, and if you Google this, it's all over the web.
	The NSA... Can, has complete access to any iPhone, can get into the iPhone, can turn on the microphone, can take your contacts, your text messages, at any given moment.
	And he has a slide, which he published on Der Spiegel, with four boxes and some ludicrous name like...
	Blow up Jeep something, Euro Jeep, whatever.
	Four boxes.
	No code, no working examples, but a slide that says we can own any iPhone.
	Now, we know that the first slide that came out ever was about Prism, and I think this was the mistake.
	I think this is where somehow something went wrong, and that slide was never supposed to make it out.
	Because it showed all the companies that are...
	This is what he is now covering up.
	In his speech...
	Yeah, this has been...
	They've done everything they can to...
	And that phony meeting with the president was part of the scheme to create a smoke screen.
	Because Cisco wasn't there, by the way.
	Yeah, Cisco wasn't at the meeting.
	Or HP wasn't at the meeting.
	No.
	So we have Tim Cook, Tim Collins, Tom whatever his name is.
	Tim Cook.
	We know that only a few months after Steve Jobs died, according to that slide, Apple joined the PRISM program.
	And I'm pretty convinced that Glenn Greenwald was chosen specifically for this putch, for this scam of discrediting a whole bunch of agents.
	And covering up what the CIA really does.
	And Greenwald ran with it.
	This was a mistake, this first slide, because now we have to run interference and get everyone back on track and focus on hacking from drones and hacking from cable connectors and all kinds of stuff.
	And I'm going to show the ludicrousness of this as I wind this up in just a minute.
	Can I ask a simple question here since you've done all the research?
	Was Apple on the list of donors?
	You know, Apple was not on the list of donors.
	But now I want you to listen to his version of the Apple iPhone hacking.
	So my version is, yes, I saw the first slide.
	I think that is probably true.
	And Steve Jobs probably died a superhero.
	He probably got killed.
	I don't know any elites who die of cancer.
	This guy has to die of cancer.
	Why that guy?
	And he dies of cancer, shitty-ass cancer, and three months later, they're on the list.
	I think they waited for him to die.
	Tim Cook Collins, by the way, gay.
	I hate to do this, because I'm not anti-gay, but there's a gay thing here.
	Quite the opposite.
	Quite the opposite, thank you.
	But there's a common theme here, and all of a sudden, we have all this information that the iPhone could be compromised.
	What does Applebaum say?
	Here's an iPhone backdoor.
	So, dropout jeep, so you can see right there.
	So, SMS, contact list retrieval, voicemail, hot microphone, camera capture, cell tower location, cool.
	Do you think Apple helped them with that?
	I don't know.
	I hope Apple will clarify that.
	I think it's really important that Apple doesn't.
	Here's the problem.
	I don't really believe that Apple didn't help them.
	I can't prove it yet, but they literally claim...
	Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
	Let him finish.
	Let him finish.
	No, no, no.
	You've got to go back because I think there's something we both missed.
	I have to hear it.
	Okay.
	He says, let me just tell you what he said.
	He said, I would like to have Apple clarify that.
	I hope it doesn't.
	If you go all the way up to the end, I'm going to play the whole thing again.
	Let's refrain from making any noise.
	Go.
	Here's an iPhone backdoor.
	Dropout Jeep.
	You can see right there.
	SMS, contact, list retrieval, voicemail, hot microphone, camera capture, cell tower location.
	Cool.
	Do you think Apple helped them with that?
	I don't know.
	I hope Apple will clarify that.
	I think it's really important that Apple doesn't.
	Here's a problem.
	I don't really believe that Apple didn't help them.
	I can't prove it yet, but they literally claim that any time they target an iOS device, that it will succeed for implantation.
	Either they have a huge collection of exploits that work against Apple products, meaning that they are hoarding information about critical systems that American companies produce and sabotaging them, Wow.
	So, his take on this...
	Oh, by the way, let's cue the applause.
	We know that's true.
	No, Apple doesn't write shitty software.
	All software is shitty.
	So his take on this is, Apple didn't do this.
	They're not complicit.
	Steve Jobs died and they write shitty software.
	Wow.
	That blows me away.
	Well, how about this?
	And by the way, I still think it's telling that.
	He says, I hope Apple does it.
	Yes, I agree.
	I agree.
	I agree.
	Good catch.
	Okay.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	How about this?
	All software companies that write elaborate systems like that, and I would put Microsoft at the top of the list.
	IBM did the same thing with OS2. They have a way that you can remotely control the product so you can analyze and fix it from a distance so you don't have to have people bringing stuff in and back and forth.
	So you can turn your machine.
	You'd call it IBM in the days of OS2, but with Microsoft, you'd say, I can't, my machine's acting funny.
	In some situations, the guys could say, I would like to take control of your machine if you'd allow me to.
	And they will literally, there's a back door, and they will look at all this stuff from their perspective, and it's got a lot of different things.
	It wouldn't surprise me in the least if there was a remote control way to turn on the microphone or the camera.
	Why wouldn't there be?
	Applebaum's mission, of course, of course there is.
	Applebaum's mission is to protect the very same companies that are fascistically involved, that is the true definition of fascism, with the government, particularly in collaboratorship with the government, and here's his wrap-up.
	Look at that.
	It's another American company that they are sabotaging.
	They understand that HP's...
	They, being the NSA, is sabotaging these American companies, John.
	Sabotaging them.
	Servers are vulnerable, and they decided, instead of explaining that this is a problem, they exploit it.
	And Iron Chef, through interdiction, is one of the ways that they will do that.
	So, I want to really harp on this.
	Now, it's not that I think European companies are worth less.
	I suspect especially after this talk that won't be true in a literal stock sense, but I don't know.
	I think it's really important to understand that they are sabotaging American companies because of the so-called home field advantage.
	The problem is that as an American who writes software, who wants to build hardware devices, this really chills my expression and it also gives me a problem, which is that people say, why would I use what you're doing?
	You know, what about the NSA? Man, that really bothers me.
	Man!
	What you're saying really bothers me.
	You are protecting the very companies that are complicit in this.
	The director of the FBI walks around the halls freely at Facebook.
	Where's that mention?
	Well, you know, there's a lot of dimensions to this, and I want to mention another one which you touched upon, which is he's essentially slamming the American companies for writing bad code and having the NSA all over it for whatever reason, never really explains it fully.
	And they're tapping in on everything.
	So why would you want to use these products?
	So if you're working for German intelligence, you want to promote non-American products by slamming the American products.
	Which is what he just said.
	He just said.
	This element seems to be there.
	Yeah, exactly.
	When in fact, I think that our thesis, which is that the NSA is really all about industrial espionage to benefit American companies.
	That's the sick part of it.
	I know.
	Wow.
	All right.
	Let's just finish up the last 28 seconds.
	You don't deserve the Huawei taint.
	And the NSA gives it.
	And President Obama's own advisory board that was convened to understand the scope of these things has even agreed with me about this point.
	That this should not be taking place.
	That hoarding of zero day exploits cannot simply happen without thought processes that are reasonable and rational and have an economic and social valuing where we really think about the broad scale impact.
	I don't know what report he read, but the report that I read, which has exactly one actual lawyer on it, and the rest is all intelligence shills, said exactly the opposite.
	That they most definitely should have zero-day exploits on hand to use when appropriate, and they can do it without going to the court.
	They can have the Department of Justice, i.e.
	Eric Holder, say, yeah, go ahead, we'll go get the warrant later on.
	It's exactly the opposite.
	Okay, so I don't know shit about technology, okay?
	I'm dumb, and this is what I'll get.
	You don't know about wireframe injection packets, Q5, back doors.
	No, I don't.
	Hey, quit reading the chatroom.
	Play the rest of this.
	I'm not reading...
	No, no, I'm not...
	I turned the chatroom off.
	Sounds like the chatroom to me.
	That was a chatroom guy.
	That's...
	That was not the chatroom guy, that was experienced guy.
	But I am a licensed amateur radio operator.
	I am licensed.
	It's important for this last bit.
	Because he went, at the very end of the speech, he goes, and he has this whole lead up, and he's saying, who was surprised by this?
	Who thought that they would be surprised by anything I said?
	I'm going to blow your fucking mind now!
	And then he goes into this mind-blowing piece of technology, which is continuous wave radar.
	And this continuous wave radar device, as you will hear him set it up, is one kilowatt at about a gigahertz.
	I am licensed up to 1,500 watts, 1.5 kilowatts, and I am licensed far into the gigahertz spectrum.
	Now, I know a thing or two about RF. This is this genius's take on it, and the audience laps it up.
	When I told Julian Assange about this, he said it's right.
	He said, hmm.
	I bet the people who are around Hugo Chavez are going to wonder what caused his cancer.
	And I said, you know, I hadn't considered that.
	But you know, I haven't found any data about human safety about these tools.
	Has the NSA performed tests where they actually show that radiating people with...
	One kilowatt of RF energy at short range is safe?
	Now, what he's referring to is the CTX-4000.
	He shows this slide on the screen.
	And the CTX-4000, as per its description, is used to collect signals that otherwise would not be collectible.
	and extremely difficult to collect and process.
	The way it works is it's like a radar, and it spouts off this 1 to 2 gigahertz beam, 45 megahertz of bandwidth, and whatever pops back, it can then, it can essentially, it can read, it could even read your monitor.
	The device that he's showing and the specs that he's showing says, output power, user adjustable up to 2 watts using the internal amplifier, External amplifiers make it possible to go up to 1 kilowatt, which is 500 watts less than I am licensed to use after memorizing 100 questions.
	In the 1 to 2 gigahertz range.
	And he is now spinning this A as if they are standing next to people with a 1 kilowatt signal beaming it into their head.
	And that this is how Hugo Chavez got cancer.
	My God!
	No, you guys think I'm joking, right?
	Well, yeah, here it is.
	This is a continuous wave generator, a continuous wave radar unit.
	You can detect its use because it's used between one and two gigahertz, and its bandwidth is up to 45 megahertz.
	User adjustable, two watts, using an internal amplifier.
	External amplifier makes it possible to go up to one kilowatt.
	I'm just gonna let you take that in for a moment.
	Really?
	I can put up a wire in my backyard legally and blast 1.5 kilowatts at the same frequency.
	You don't need to have that soak in, Applebaum.
	It's not a big deal.
	Don't stick the wire in your mouth.
	This is bullshit.
	Yeah, and you can get a nasty RF burn.
	You can get it.
	Of course you can get an RF burn.
	But he's making it sound like the evil NSA is blasting people with a kilowatt from four inches away.
	Who's crazy now?
	You are.
	Hey, you gotta laugh.
	So that goes on for four more minutes, and people just lap it up.
	I'm sorry, I actually know something about this.
	So, Applebaum, as long as you pay him for his development work of his free quote-unquote software, I'm sure he'll protect you.
	Google.
	Well, media are.
	And I'm pretty sure that Gren Greenwald, in all of this, is...
	He seems like the perfect guy...
	You know, to line up.
	He's so narcissistic.
	He's so full of himself.
	He loves to see and hear himself so much.
	This is what...
	I think what happened, John, I think, you know, yeah, there were 50,000 slides or documents or whatever.
	They had to come up with this, there's more, this 1.5, 1.7, to keep Greenwald shut up, to keep him happy, to think that he's going to get something else.
	He didn't have it.
	I doubt it exists, but he doesn't have this.
	So...
	Sitting there, the true collaborateurs, Poitras, who we know nothing about, and everyone gives her a free pass, except for the U.S. Army, who thinks she pretty much might have helped kill some people, Americans.
	And this guy, all living in Berlin, I'm disgusted by it.
	And I'm disturbed that people who...
	Truly mean well and really understand technology are falling into this trap of, oh, look at all the exploits, while their information is being sucked away from the true media companies that we're just giving a pass to.
	And the Internet of Things that the CIA is building, that's where it's really happening.
	You're being distracted and you're looking at all the wrong things.
	Backslash.
	Oh, and by the way, when he says, I didn't clip this, if you're a reporter, you should only use Tails, which is a Linux installed on a USB stick, which uses Tor, I'd run away from anything Applebaum suggests to me.
	Yeah, yeah, I can see that.
	Well, everyone, it's a known fact that tour is compromised, so I don't know why people are still yakking about it, so it's not.
	It's funny, Mickey walked by the studio, and she's listening, she says, you know, and she says, who is that?
	It's Applebaum.
	She knows, but at this moment she hasn't put it together because I haven't done this whole spiel.
	I said, what do you think?
	He says, you know, whenever I hear someone talk like this, like they've got it all figured out, I don't trust them.
	Okay, I'll take that as instinct.
	Yeah, well, okay, well, I guess the conclusion is Applebaum is what he is.
	He's part of the cabal that we don't know who they work for or what the point of it is.
	Well, the conclusion kind of is he's protecting the true NSA, which is all the companies.
	It's AT&T, it's Verizon, it's Google, it's Yahoo.
	No, he's protecting corporate interests.
	Yes.
	He's not protecting the NSA at all.
	No.
	Well, but that is the NSA. Facebook is the NSA. It is the FBI. That's what it is.
	That's the database.
	This is not a secret, but you're being distracted away.
	This is what it is.
	Yeah, well that's why I'm not on Facebook.
	Alright, let's take a break.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on your agenda in the morning.
	So Craig of Manama now, we want to thank a few people here for supporting today's show.
	$186.19 East Kilbride, South Lancashire, UK. Good for him.
	Happy New Year, Dorothy and Lillian.
	He started with an instant night.
	We'll end with his donation to take me to a feminine-sounding baronet.
	Nice.
	Sir...
	Yeah, I think it's Sir Andrew Lamesany in Colorado Springs.
	1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
	William Durkin in Greenville, South Carolina.
	1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
	Nice.
	Dame Sam Menor.
	Okay.
	$11.11 says, Happy New Year from Dame Sam and the girls from the House of Dubious Repute.
	Hey, send us pictures.
	That's right.
	It's Samantha, I believe.
	And wait a minute.
	Does she not have a...
	That's a Make It Rain donation, but no one requested on stage?
	She didn't request herself.
	She has time to email because I'm doing it on Sunday.
	Okay.
	A lot of traveling.
	Sheldon Wiesner in Lubbock, Texas, $111.11.
	I want to start by saying I'm so thankful for the analysis you produce every week.
	This is my first donation in a long time, and my road to knighthood.
	I figured I'd start the year off with a bang before I hop on a much smaller donation befitting a second-year political science major.
	This is good, yeah, and we're influencing the studentry.
	He's got Obot Mom Karen to the stage.
	We'll bring her up on Sunday.
	A de-douching from my longtime boner status and a douchebag call-out for the guy on the internet who says I like to suck off closeted conservative queers.
	Douchebags!
	Okay.
	He's not sure what this had to do with the global warming debate, but if this is the reaction people have when presented with the facts learned on the No Agenda show, I take it as a good sign.
	So that's what somebody called him.
	I guess he was talking about, like, hey, the rich kids of Instagram are stuck in the ice.
	Hey, you go suck off your closet of conservative queer friends.
	Which I guess is us.
	I guess.
	I guess we're the closeted conservative queers.
	Yeah, speak for yourself.
	Give him a de-douching.
	Yeah, of course.
	You've been de-douched.
	Let's rattle off the rest of these fine folks.
	Oops.
	No, no, no.
	Agent Orange, $101 in Berlin.
	Sorry, missed it.
	By the way, Agent Orange, go check on these people over there and tell us what you find.
	We know Agent Orange, and this is a New Year's gift from him.
	And he is in Berlin, and he gives me information about what's going on in Berlin, so I speak with some...
	Berlin knowledge.
	Berlin knowledge.
	Here we go.
	Ivo Welton in Amhem.
	Is it Arnheim?
	It's Ivo Welton.
	Ivo Welton is what I said.
	$99.99 from...
	Arnhem.
	Arnhem, Deutschland.
	I'm sorry, Dutch, Holland.
	Candice Hart, 77 sack of sevens from Austin, Texas, right down the street from you.
	And she's got a birthday coming up, or somebody does.
	Christine Zachman in Lost Wages, Nevada.
	Another sack of sevens, another birthday.
	69!
	69, dude!
	James Burke, 69, 69, from Richmond, North Yorkshire.
	Trent Wabbes, Wabbes, Wabbes.
	Sneaky rabbit.
	6969 from Elwood, Victoria, Canada.
	Australia, I'm sorry.
	And Timothy Tillman in Mechanicsville, Virginia.
	And that closes that.
	Nicholas Betson in Geelong.
	Geelong.
	Geelong.
	On the dime, Australia.
	Which is nice to get our Aussie friends involved.
	Mikhailovich Roman in St.
	Petersburg, Russia, $55.
	Thank you.
	From Russia with hate, he says.
	With hate.
	Yay!
	Shannon Adkins, Warren, Michigan.
	Michael Siegenthaler, this is a 50-50.
	Michael Siegenthaler in Phoenix, Arizona, $50.
	And then the $50 came in from John...
	Davila in Naperville, Illinois.
	Sir Greg Brunsel in Kenosha, Wisconsin.
	Carl Barron, possibly Sir Carl if I'm not mistaken, he's in Malmo, Sweden.
	Catherine Lee with a birthday call out in Malaysia.
	$50, and that closes the segment for No Agenda Donations for show 579.
	It was a lot of lesser donations came in.
	We tried to get people to go $20.14.
	We got a couple of them.
	We had a few.
	We had about 15.
	And I want to thank them and everybody else who gave lesser amounts for keep the show going so you can get the kind of information you won't get anyplace else.
	Well, you certainly get the analysis you won't get anywhere else.
	And I say, take what we do and sit on it for a day or two and consider what may be going on, what you may think is really happening.
	And it's because we have this model, because of these donations, that we can even venture into this territory.
	I hope people understand how special that is.
	I think the people who support the show do.
	They inherently understand that we can't even have this conversation Can you imagine CNET talking about this?
	Slamming Apple Bomb?
	No one would do that.
	Let me ask you a question.
	It's a heresy.
	It's a heresy.
	Let me ask you this.
	I'm not giving to the show anymore.
	And you look the guy up, he's never giving to the show.
	I'll say this.
	Here's one for you kids.
	If you really wanted all the information that somebody had on their computer...
	Wouldn't you go to Carbonite and say, give me that?
	Has anyone even asked them?
	Hey, Carbonite, have you ever received a request?
	People won't even ask that of this company because they're advertising.
	This is the inherent compromise that you have to deal with, that we don't have.
	So we can at least ask the question.
	Carbonite's only one of about ten of these companies that do cloud backup.
	How about Apple's backup system?
	They back you up to the cloud.
	Microsoft has this, too.
	I've always asked this question because I've never been cloud-oriented, except for my email.
	Yeah, and, you know, it's essentially on the cloud because I'm using IMAP, and you can't really avoid such things.
	But when you use a lot of these services like PayPal on the cloud, it's very sluggish.
	It's really not a very positive experience.
	But I've always asked the question, in an era of hard disks, right now, Costco, Four terabyte hard disk for about $150.
	I can go buy one, a backup hard disk.
	And I can back up to my heart's content with no use of my bandwidth or anything else.
	I don't have to wait forever because I'm not going to get any throughput as opposed to a 3.0 USB backing up to my own hard disk.
	I can take the thing and give it to a friend or I can put it somewhere and then back up again some other time with it.
	Super cheap.
	I mean, that is a dirt cheap price for four gigabytes.
	Terabytes.
	What am I thinking?
	Four terabytes.
	What did I say?
	Have you done this?
	I backup.
	I have two backups.
	I have a two-terabyte drive in the trunk of my car.
	Well, okay.
	There you go, NSA. It's not that hard to hit that old Lexus.
	You have to crack into the car, and the horn goes off at the drop of a hat.
	Which, by the way, that would be illegal.
	Yeah, that's illegal.
	Going to Carbonite and requesting your data is not illegal.
	So I can buy these cheap.
	I can get a two-terabyte drive for like less than $100.
	And I can back up to my heart's content.
	It doesn't take that long.
	And I can back up everything.
	I can do a mirror.
	It doesn't make any difference.
	Why, during that era, have we been promoting, as the tech community in general, been promoting this over-the-air backup, this online backup that is slow?
	It takes forever.
	Well, I'll answer the question.
	Look at who's advertising.
	That's your answer.
	Why is the tech community promoting it?
	Because there's no critical analysis of it.
	Because they're the ones that are actually advertising.
	What?
	I said it from the beginning.
	Intel did it for a while.
	It's dumb.
	It's slow.
	I cannot give a mirror image of my mic machine.
	I got at least a terabyte worth of photos.
	And you can't back these up over the net.
	Unless I had a gigabit connection.
	I guess that's maybe why Google's pushing the gigabit Ethernet.
	No, you think?
	Very good.
	But that's not available to me.
	AT&T's going to do it.
	Verizon's already doing it.
	It's all going to be this.
	Don't trust it.
	And then if they don't like the looks on your face, they say, hey, you know what?
	We're canceling your account.
	Oh, and by the way, what does Google say?
	You can't run a server on our gigabit Ethernet.
	You can't run a server on that.
	Yeah, they've come back a little bit.
	Oh, well, yeah, you can kind of maybe.
	Yeah, you can run an Xbox-like thing, whatever.
	No, the first thing they say is, you need to connect to us.
	That's all right.
	If that's the Internet people want, fine.
	Fine.
	You go use that.
	That's what they want.
	That's what they want, John.
	All right, so again, another part of the conversation we could not have if we were CNET. No, of course not.
	We couldn't even discuss any of it.
	We'd lose the advertiser to be on the phone.
	Hey!
	Hey!
	Oh, shoot.
	You guys better apologize.
	Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
	Hold on a second.
	Hold on a second.
	Yeah, hello.
	It's Currie and Dvorak here.
	What's up?
	Yeah, this is Carbonite.
	I'm your account rep.
	Hi.
	Hi, Mr.
	Carbonite account rep.
	What's up?
	Hey.
	My boss chewed me out for what you guys did.
	What do you mean what we did?
	You better fire those two guys.
	And you better announce they were fired, and you better announce they were fired because they said bad things about us.
	Or else.
	Or else what?
	What are you going to do?
	You're going to get me and my other buddies at advertising your crappy network, and we're going to pull our ads.
	All right, hold on a second.
	Let me call over to ad sales.
	Hold on a second.
	Hey, ad sales.
	Hey, it is ad sales.
	Hey, what is the Carbonite contract worth to us?
	Is that a lot of money?
	I mean, because I got some bitching phone call about that.
	It's a network-wide.
	Let me look it up.
	Network-wide.
	Network-wide 500.
	No, no.
	It's $5 million a year, network-wide.
	Oh, well, they're threatening to pull it unless we fire those Curry and Dvorak guys.
	Those guys, you're not even paying them.
	Let me check their salaries.
	What are their salaries?
	Nobody cares.
	All right.
	Another Theater of the Mind play from the Curry Dvorak acting group.
	Dvorak.org Slash N A Candice Hart congratulates her boyfriend, Cosi, turned 26 today.
	Christine Zachman celebrated on the first of the first.
	And Catherine Lee was, well, Catherine celebrated her birthday on Sunday, last Sunday.
	So we say happy bladed birthday and happy birthday to all of you from your friends here at the best podcast in the universe.
	And then we have, of course, Sir Craig of Manamana.
	He becomes a baronet, which is a title.
	And then we have Edward Sheets, who is very proud to join the roundtable.
	First one of the new year.
	Grab your blade.
	Here we go.
	Perfect.
	Perfect.
	Edward Sheets, step forward, my friend!
	And congratulations on becoming a member of the Roundtable of the Knights.
	We hereby proudly pronounce the Sir Sheets, Knight of the Nogent Roundtable.
	And for you, as requested, Cuban cigars and single malt scotch, along with cannabis and Cabernet, hot librarians and Jager bombs, opium and warm orange juice, hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, bong hits and bourbon, vodka and vanilla, gashas and sake, sparkling cider and escorts, And of course, the old-fashioned mutton and mead.
	It does still work sometimes.
	We also could have gone the other way.
	You were talking about Infowars earlier.
	There's big news.
	The Department of Health and Human Services has ordered 14 million doses of potassium iodide.
	14 million tablets, of course, has to be delivered to them by February 1, 2014.
	Oh, well, that's...
	This has been...
	What?
	That is the six-week cycle.
	It's about there.
	Really?
	Yep.
	Interesting.
	Well, what Prison Planet is doing is they're selling iodine.
	Since the government can have it, but you can't, apparently, so you can go buy some...
	You can get it in pharmacy.
	I think you should go buy some...
	No, you buy the one with Alex Jones on it.
	Are you kidding me?
	Go look at it.
	His head is a little...
	Yes, he's on it.
	He's on the bottle.
	All shaped like his head?
	He's got the coffee.
	He's got the iodine.
	Oh, yeah, the coffee cracks me up.
	I said, I pledged, I think sometime before, you know, in the next few months when I can't come up with anything, I will find out the vendor of the coffee and find out what the deal was.
	Nice.
	All right, good.
	Because it's drop shipped.
	He doesn't have nothing to do with it.
	It's fun to look at.
	It's hilarious.
	So I have to say something, mention something here.
	I'm down to two sling boxes.
	Well, actually three.
	There's one in Canada that's just a horrible setup.
	It doesn't seem to work very well.
	My main Calgary connection gave up and unhooked it or something.
	I don't know what happened.
	It happens.
	I've got one in New York out of two.
	One of them works and the other one doesn't.
	Then I have my guy in Tampa who seems to be, he's got a nice TiVo box there.
	He's got one of the best systems.
	But all my other boxes are either dead or missing.
	The Australian box just disappeared from my list.
	Hmm.
	Yeah, I need some help out there, people.
	Yeah, there was also some kind of weird upgrade, I think.
	London box never worked.
	I need a London box.
	A London box?
	Yeah.
	And that's what she said.
	Hey!
	Hey!
	If people want to help out with the show, I think they should participate in this new...
	The White House has a film festival now.
	And the film festival is to promote STEM... In classrooms.
	Technology in the classroom.
	This is all part of your common core marketing that the White House is now completely complicit in.
	You want to hear this little ad done by Bill Nye, the science guy?
	Bill Nye?
	I'm always intrigued by anything he does.
	Okay, how come he's not...
	Hey, hey, Bill Nye, the science guy here.
	Now, you know, when I was in school, I used a slide rule.
	No kidding.
	This was a calculating device that didn't add or subtract.
	And we wanted information.
	We had to go to the library and look things up on little cards.
	We had to find books.
	We had to open them.
	We had to study the books.
	But now, you, in the information age...
	Information from all around the world, even from outer space, is available to you at your fingertips.
	It has changed the world.
	What you have now is the ability to learn things so much more quickly than I could when I was in school.
	But look, I came out fine.
	No, I'm kidding.
	No, so here's the thing.
	If you think that you can make a cool video about how you learn science, technology, engineering, and math using the technology that's at your fingertips, then the President, the President of the United States, wants to hear from you.
	The White House is accepting submissions for the first ever White House Student Film Festival.
	This is for kids like you between kindergarten and 12th grade.
	You can get all the information you need online at whitehouse.gov slash filmfest, and the films can be short.
	In fact, they have to be short.
	They can't be any longer than three minutes.
	The official selections will be featured on the White House website and shared around the world on White House sites and tweets.
	Ugh, I can't even stand this guy.
	So it's all promoting science, technology, engineering, and math.
	Please, whatever you do, no art or music.
	Let's just keep that away from the stupid slaves.
	That's just dumb.
	I have a clip that I wanted to play on the last show, and I'm going to play it now, because I was listening to it again, and I realized that there's something we're overlooking, I think, just in general, a fractal, which we don't talk enough about, that is actually a fractal.
	This is about a guy who went on a shooting spree.
	Apparently his wife was harassing him, so he went and shot the parents, her parents, and they're...
	Grand daughter or whatever.
	Shot the wife.
	Shot one of his bosses.
	It was collaborating with her.
	She was hounding him about support or something.
	A typical Monday in America.
	He flipped.
	He flipped and then went crazy.
	And as I listened to this a second or third time, I realized that this is a fractal of the bullying I'm sorry.
	Play the clip and then tell me what the difference is.
	Okay.
	We're learning new details this noon about a Louisiana man accused of targeting his family and former colleagues in a series of deadly home invasions last night.
	He killed a hospital administrator, his former mother-in-law, and his own wife before taking his own life.
	ABC's Matt Gutman has more.
	Police believe this man, 38-year-old Ben Freeman, went from home to home in Lafourche, Paris, 30 minutes outside New Orleans, on a mission to kill.
	This is unprecedented in Lafourche, to have three different victims, unrelated, targeted by a single killer.
	His first stop at 6.40 yesterday evening, the home of his former in-laws.
	There he allegedly killed his ex-mother-in-law, Susan Goh, wounding her husband, parish councilman Louie Goh, and their daughter, Andrea.
	Freeman had been married to the couple's daughter, Jean.
	Just 20 minutes later, police believe Freeman targeted the home of Milton Bourgeois, the administrator of Osner St.
	Anne Hospital, where Freeman once worked.
	Bourgeois' wife, Anne, was also shot and taken to an area hospital where she is now in stable condition.
	A third stop and a third death.
	This time Freeman's own wife found dead in their home.
	Police say a shotgun was used in the shootings.
	A massive manhunt continued until just a couple of hours ago when Ben Freeman was found dead in his car on the side of a highway of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.
	And during Freeman's spree, three hospitals where he used to work were put on lockdown while police searched for him.
	Right now police are still trying to figure out what sparked that deadly shooting spree.
	They even had lockdown.
	Yeah, what is your question about this?
	It's not a question, it's an observation that this is the exact same bullying meme.
	Without the bullying message.
	Because that's...
	The guy flipped for the following...
	I got this idea actually from Mimi when she heard the clip.
	She says, oh, you know, it's obviously the wife's fault that all has happened.
	You know, we don't blame the victim enough.
	And I thought she was just being glib.
	But at the same time, I said...
	Maybe it was.
	I mean, she was obviously gouging this guy.
	She was bullying him using the courts.
	His mother-in-law, I'm sure, was on her side and harassing him.
	And the guy flipped just like a student does in a school.
	And then they have the same exact results.
	A guy kills himself and they put a bunch of people on lockdown.
	I'm not seeing why they have not picked up on this as a fractal that they could...
	Actually, they can't do it because you can't turn this into a bullying meme when it's exactly the same thing.
	So you actually have this thesis about bullying, creating these maniacs who go on a killing spree, but they won't take it to the next level because then you're blaming the victim.
	No, because he's not gay.
	He's not gay.
	No, it doesn't work unless there's gay involved.
	That's when it becomes bullying.
	Yeah, well, there's that too.
	But I just thought it was interesting and we should start looking at these.
	No, no, I totally agree.
	And it has the same elements.
	Lockdown.
	Interesting.
	Anyway.
	The white paper that Brian the Gay Crusader is putting together, he's been feeding me, he's been rewriting everything, and it's really good.
	About the gay, the so-called gay Russian anti-gay laws.
	Yeah.
	Oh man, he's really, this is what he does.
	A lot of people get irked by when they see the reality of some of the stuff that we discuss.
	And we get big credits, by the way, in this white paper.
	Good.
	It was funny because at a certain point it's like, you know, because he wanted to prove us wrong.
	But he also calls us as huge proponents and supporters of the LGBTQQI community.
	I can't wait to have that on a business card.
	I can't remember that.
	We are supporters of the LGBTQQI community.
	We're supporters of everybody.
	As much as anyone.
	Yeah, that's what I mean.
	We're not anti-gay, let's put it that way.
	We're not.
	So I got a couple quick clips for the end.
	Alright, I had a few more things just to talk about briefly.
	We're running out of time.
	Can you push them off to Sunday?
	Yeah, Turkey's going to have to be on Sunday because there's a lot.
	Let me just see what I got here.
	So we'll do Turkey on Sunday.
	That's important.
	Let me just check.
	Oh, yeah, one thing.
	And I need you for this.
	Target.
	Can you see, was there any short selling like before December?
	Do you have a way of looking at that on a chart?
	No, what you need is a Bloomberg terminal.
	I could have Horowitz look into it.
	Yeah, would you ask Horowitz if you talk to him?
	What are you looking for?
	What is your basic thoughts on this?
	Okay, so Target was compromised.
	Target lost a lot of business.
	Target lost several points on the stock market when this hit.
	Yeah.
	We know that the NSA is...
	Do you want to know if there's any shorts or shorts before the announcement?
	Yes, correct.
	I'm sure there were.
	I'd just like to know what he sees on his terminal.
	Because that makes so much sense.
	Yeah, it was a scam.
	That's the idea.
	This is the mob.
	The mob does this stuff.
	They got this thing going on.
	They'll do something.
	They may have leaked the whole idea.
	They sell it, or somebody picks it up, or if they start selling the names, I'm sure it was listed as target customers, and somebody finds it, and then they put it out on the net, and the next thing you know, the stock plummets, and somebody who smartly shorted a few days before was probably involved, but there's The problem is if they're really, really good, these guys.
	They would have shorted so much earlier that you can't really put the finger on them.
	So that means that's the real problem.
	The guys are really pros.
	They don't short two days before.
	They short two months before.
	Well, I just looked at the chart and I saw that there's a lot of fluctuation in price.
	Now, fluctuation, of course, is all relative due to the scale of the chart that you're looking at.
	But I'm not good at that.
	So anyway, ask him.
	And I will end my bits for today by reading you a headline from USA Today.
	More record lows than highs in USA in 2013.
	We have another huge storm in the east now.
	That's your global cooling, as promised.
	Americans buying less electricity, almost as little as 2001.
	This is going to really mess up a lot of business.
	But the thing that I really have trouble with, we have tons...
	There was another...
	Report here.
	Cesium-137 found in strawberries, mushrooms, and more in Northern California, including the baby food.
	Yes, this is all from Fukushima, just so you know.
	But what I can't find any analysis of is the environmental damage done by the train collision and explosion in North Dakota.
	Do you think anyone is going to look at that at all?
	Do you think there's any...
	No, not going to happen.
	Do you think there would be any kind of environmental damage from this accident?
	I would hope.
	No.
	You know what?
	I was worried at the beginning of the show, but now I know.
	It's you.
	Yes.
	All right.
	Wrap us up, Johnny Boy.
	So I have a movie.
	I think it's called Hearts and Minds or something.
	It was kind of a wrap-up of the Vietnam War.
	Very interesting documentary.
	Some of us have a link to it, and I watched a little of it.
	And it had Daniel Ellsberg...
	Making this very interesting comment, one part of it, he was one of the guys who was, because he's the one who pretty much busted the whole scam of the Vietnam War wide open.
	And I just thought this was a very nice little thing.
	He talked about the administrations from Truman on being a bunch of duplicitous liars.
	And the particular clip is liars and fooling the public.
	Truman lied.
	From 1950 on, on the nature and purposes of the French involvement, the colonial reconquest of Vietnam that we were financing and encouraging.
	Eisenhower lied about the reasons for and the nature of our involvement with Diem and the fact that he was in power essentially because of American support and American money and for no other reason.
	Kennedy lied about the type of involvement we were Doing there, our own combat involvement, and about the recommendations that were being made to him for greater involvement.
	President Kennedy lied about the degree of our participation in the overthrow of Xi'an.
	Johnson, of course, lied and lied and lied about the provocations against the North Vietnamese prior to and after the Tonkin Gulf incident about the plans for bombing North Vietnam and the nature of the buildup of American troops in Vietnam.
	Nixon, as we now know, misled and lied to the American public for the first months of his office in terms of our bombing of Cambodia and of Laos, ground operations in Laos, the reasons for our invasion of Cambodia and of Laos, and the prospects for the mining of Haiphong that finally came about in 1972, but was envisioned as early as 1969.
	The American public was lied to month by month by each of these five administrations As I say, it's a tribute to the American public that their leaders perceived that they had to be lied to.
	It's no tribute to us that it was so easy to fool the public.
	I just want you to know that Benghazi was caused by a video.
	Keep it up the liars.
	It's good.
	Can you in one sentence, because you set it up that way, in one sentence, the Pentagon Papers, which are so often bandied about in connection with Ellsberg's name, in connection with WikiLeaks and Snowden, what exactly in one paragraph did the Pentagon Papers expose?
	That the Vietnam War was contrived.
	For what purpose?
	Well, if you listen to this same thing, Eisenhower had mentioned in the 50s that Vietnam was the place where we get most of our tungsten, which was really necessary for our machineries.
	And the tungsten and one other metal, it was a metal thing.
	And then some people have surmised that there was a lot of oil off the coast, which has been confirmed more recently.
	But the oil has never been exploded.
	We had a minerals interest, and of course the big lie was that this was all part of a domino theory that was going to, if South Vietnam fell, then everything from Australia to everything was going to become communist.
	And that was kind of the overriding thesis as why we had to be there.
	Yeah, that was before we had Muslims.
	Right, that was one of our, right, communists were more important.
	Now we switched from the communists to the Muslims.
	Get tired of the communist thing.
	Although they should bring it back because I've been reading about South Sudan and all these oil companies are all Chinese.
	They're all owned by China.
	Every single one of them.
	That's why we're going to let it go.
	We're going to let it become a Rwanda.
	This is my prediction.
	It's going to become a Rwanda.
	And the economic hitman would verify this, that he would advise against it.
	But I'm guessing they're going to choose to let it become a Rwanda and a mess and rubble.
	And then we'll come in at the last minute after all the rubble stage and oust the Chinese.
	Because right now, I don't think we have it.
	No, no.
	It needs more rubble.
	It's pretty close, though.
	Most of what I've seen of South Sudan is kind of rubbly.
	It's very rubble.
	It's almost 90% there.
	It started off at high rubble rate.
	Don't ruff.
	Don't ruff about rubble rate.
	Okay.
	Give me another clip and we'll go.
	That was kind of good, though.
	It's enough to wrap it up for me.
	Well, there is a kind of a couple here.
	Let's see.
	No smoking, Palestinian.
	Oh, okay.
	This is the one that's the funny one.
	Well, it's not funny.
	Some guy got killed, but play the Palestinian clip.
	Are you sure?
	That's usually pretty funny when someone gets killed, John.
	Your clip doesn't want to load.
	Here we go.
	A Palestinian ambassador was killed opening a safe that hadn't been opened in 20 years at his residence in the Czech Republic.
	Police in Prague say 56-year-old Jamal al-Jamal inadvertently triggered an explosive booby-trapped security device on that safe.
	It had been moved from an old embassy building and officials say he wanted to find out what was inside.
	Wow.
	He found out.
	Yeah, he sure did.
	That's why you gotta keep copious notes.
	What's in this safe?
	I don't know.
	I only started working here a year ago.
	Well, can I take it to my house?
	I don't know, I guess.
	Lovely.
	All right, lots of deconstruction on Turkey, Russia, and Palestine, actually, coming up on Sunday's show.
	Looking forward to that.
	Thank you all, producers, executives, associates.
	Everyone in the segment and below the line, we really appreciate your help.
	Hope you enjoyed some of this.
	I see a lot of people already checking in on the email saying, yeah, thanks for exposing that guy.
	Okay.
	I can't wait.
	We talked about him before.
	Yeah.
	Haven't had a fun keynote like that to look at before.
	Well, I wouldn't go to one of those kinos.
	He sounds boring.
	Coming to you from FEMA Region 6 here in the capital of the drone star state where we will be flying drones on test missions coming up this year.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I sit here waiting for the machine to reboot, and it didn't do it, I'm John C. Dvorak.
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