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	They take it as truth.
	They take it as truth?
	They take it as truth.
	Destroyed.
	Destroyed.
	Destroyed computers.
	Destroyed computers?
	It's Thursday, December 19th, 2013.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 575.
	This is No Agenda.
	Reading the report and recommendations of the President's Review Group on Intelligence and Communications Technology so you don't have to here at FEMA Region 6 in the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
	And for growth in Silicon Valley where it's sunny, it's cold, and everything is going great for the locals.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Okay, so it was lame.
	We're happy everything's going great for the locals.
	It's going great for the locals.
	Wow!
	Yeah, since everyone there is rich, living it up, Silicon Valley.
	Yeah, the traffic is reflecting that, apparently.
	It's just horrible.
	I'm lucky to be here.
	I'm lucky to be alive.
	I'm so sick.
	This is not funny.
	Well, you're still sick?
	Wait a minute.
	You were sick on the last show.
	I only told you after the show that I was sick.
	I didn't even tell you during the show.
	No, because you sound fine, and you sound fine now.
	I think you're faking it.
	Yeah.
	Here's what happened.
	One week ago, after the show on Thursday, I went to a fundraising event for HAM, the Health Alliance.
	What?
	It's H-A-A-M. Ham.
	Ham.
	Ham.
	The Health Alliance for Austin Musicians, which gives health care to thousands of Austin musicians who are poor and on the street.
	Even those who aren't on the street can't afford it.
	And I got sick.
	Someone gave me something, some horrible bug, and it really...
	What did you kiss?
	No, I'm just handshaking.
	Kissing is not what you do.
	No, handshaking is worse than your handshake.
	And so it was really, really bad.
	I had sinuses, and then we did the show on Sunday, and I kind of collapsed after the show.
	I've been in bed, and it's really weird.
	Like, my back hurt, and my lungs are congested.
	And then this report comes in yesterday from Houston.
	You'll see only on 11 News.
	Police officials here with the health department are on a mission to find out more about this mystery flu-like illness.
	They don't want to scare the public, but there is no question this is serious and it's raising both questions and concerns.
	So far there are eight confirmed victims and four of those patients have died.
	They range in age from 41 to 68.
	Now here is the thing baffling doctors.
	All of these patients have had flu-like and or pneumonia-like symptoms and all have tested negative for the flu.
	Sources are telling us tonight that two of the surviving patients are being treated at Conroe Regional Medical Center and are very sick.
	We are being told that doctors at this hospital And others in Montgomery County are being advised to use extra precaution to prevent this from spreading.
	Sources say this illness also appears to be causing kidney failure.
	At this point, we do not know if any of these patients had pre-existing conditions.
	The Montgomery County Health Department is waiting on more conclusive test results hoping to get a better handle on exactly what they are dealing with.
	There you go.
	Half of the people who have apparently what I have are dead.
	Flu-like symptoms between ages of 41 and 68.
	Kidney failure.
	I could keel over at any moment.
	Right during the show?
	Yeah.
	This would not be a good thing for the future of this show.
	No, it would not.
	But have no fear.
	I have a condom over my mic, so I can't infect anyone on the show today.
	Everything should be okay.
	I need to get better.
	I get the kids coming tomorrow night.
	Christina's coming.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's going to be nut house here.
	It's going to be crazy.
	What's the kids?
	What kids are we talking about?
	My kid, Christina and her girlfriend, they're coming from Rotterdam.
	They're coming for two weeks.
	What happened to that kid, Dixon?
	What?
	Didn't she have a boyfriend named Dixon or something like that?
	Dylan?
	Dexter.
	Dexter!
	What happened to Dexter?
	Dexter's doing great, actually.
	They're still very good friends, and they talk a lot.
	And Dexter went from...
	Because it's very hard to find a job, and he's in England, in the UK. Very hard to find work.
	So he, for a while, was a Domino's pizza delivery.
	But of course, like all good Domino's pizza delivery, he essentially delivered weed along with the pizza.
	And he did that for a while.
	Then he thought to step it up a bit, and he started growing weed in his dad's apartment in London.
	Dexter's a very entrepreneurial young man.
	Did he get busted?
	I think his dad busted him.
	But then he was like, oh, I can't believe someone was growing weed in your apartment, Dad.
	That's nuts!
	I guess he finally fessed up.
	Just Dexter's funny.
	Yeah, we like Dexter.
	Well.
	There you go.
	But anyway, this is weird.
	I have a body buzz.
	You know, my whole body's kind of buzzing.
	I don't know.
	Maybe I have this.
	You have a body buzz?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so my body's buzzing.
	You mean buzz?
	Well, like your fingertips and your arms, they just buzz a little bit.
	Huh.
	Is this weird?
	I've never heard of such a thing.
	Really?
	You've never heard of a body buzz?
	No.
	Well, I'm sorry.
	Well, anyway.
	But I'm here, and I spend all day in bed.
	You sound fine.
	Yeah.
	So you don't have pneumonia.
	Well, pneumonia is the lung thing, isn't it?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, I had a severe pain in my shoulders and my lungs, and I'm coughing, and it's congested.
	You sound fine.
	This can't be.
	Okay, all right.
	Which is bad, by the way.
	This is the old, you sound fine, then you're dead.
	Yeah.
	Can we just say I sound crappy?
	That would make me feel much better.
	It might be a better idea.
	Geez.
	Anyway, so I did...
	So they don't know what this is?
	It's just something like some crazy thing going around?
	No, they have no idea.
	Only in Texas.
	Well, it's Houston is where the report came from.
	Oh, well, you're in Austin.
	Oh, yeah.
	We're far enough away.
	Sure.
	Were there any Houstonian musicians?
	You know, it was a bunch of rich douchebags, and the whole idea is to kind of extract money from them.
	The whole thing, I didn't like it at all.
	I didn't like how that went down.
	The whole thing was not fun for me.
	I've got to talk to these people.
	I'm not going to participate if it's like that.
	We don't need to go into it.
	But I try to spend some time on some charity.
	We try to do something.
	Yeah, well, now it's going to kill you.
	No.
	Hey, can you just give me a read for a second?
	Because I've got a hum on you that is crazy.
	I want to see if I can get rid of it.
	Oh, I don't know.
	It could be any hum.
	I mean, it could be from anything, because I'm over on the other side of the place.
	It could be the machine humming.
	It could be...
	I don't know.
	Here's the kind of...
	For people out there listening to the show, we got a few...
	Let me give you a little clip tease.
	All right.
	We got coming up anti-American mid-Pacific on Russia Today.
	All right.
	No one cares.
	And we're back.
	We're fine.
	I think it's on your end.
	I don't know what's going on.
	No, I'm sure it's on mine.
	It's not all that bad.
	I mean, it's buzzing to me.
	The whole room's buzzing.
	All right.
	So what you got...
	Maybe it's you.
	Maybe your body buzz.
	Could be the body buzz.
	Alright, so where do you want to start?
	Because I already teased what I've been doing, what I spent yesterday struggling, really plowing through 308 pages of the report and recommendations of the President's Review Group on Intelligence and Communications Technologies.
	Well, we can start with that.
	I have a couple of little...
	I did some reading myself, and I have a couple of little things to go into, but yours is probably...
	What did you read?
	Mine is more like what?
	What did you read?
	Oscar Wilde?
	No, I read the court case that said that the NSA was violating the Constitution.
	Ah, good.
	Let's start there, and let me, just to get everyone all clued in...
	Hold on a second.
	I have this.
	I have a clip to set us up, and then I want to hear...
	Your clip to set it up, I want to play my clip to set it up, because I thought...
	I went to a dead end.
	I'm glad you read that complaint because I haven't.
	Here's my setup.
	A federal judge in Washington ruled today that the government's collection of phone records of millions of Americans is likely unconstitutional.
	It is the first time that a federal court has ruled against the once-secret surveillance program which was exposed by National Security Agency leaker Edward Snowden.
	In a blistering attack, Judge Richard Leon said he has little doubt that the author of our Constitution, James Madison, would be aghast at what Judge Leon said amounts to an unreasonable search.
	Okay, that's my setup.
	What is yours?
	Well, mine is Gwen Ifill, who is an Obama bot, extraordinary, since you wrote a book on him.
	And so I heard this clip, and then I went and listened.
	He had a similar clip to one you played from France Van Katte, where the guy goes, he quotes from the complaint, which actually discusses, the guy does say it's Orwellian.
	Yes, that's in the complaint, right?
	It's in the complaint.
	So the French guys, but Eiffel soft-pedaled the whole thing so much that I thought that she was kind of wrong, but then I went and looked at the thing.
	This word got me to read it, and she was actually right and probably more objective.
	But let's play her little thing.
	A federal judge ruled today that the National Security Agency's bulk collection of phone records is likely unconstitutional.
	Judge Richard Leon said the massive roundup of calls was an unreasonable search and violated Americans' reasonable expectation of privacy.
	But he put his decision on hold pending a likely government appeal.
	We'll have more on today's ruling right after the news summary.
	Okay.
	I thought that her use of the word likely unconstitutional was kind of a soft peddling.
	That was the same they did in the CBS thing.
	He also used the likely word.
	The judge used it.
	I mean, he essentially said that.
	Okay.
	So that was not misreporting as I was suspecting it was.
	He essentially, what he did was he said, this is horrible.
	Obviously, he never said it was a fact, but he says it's obvious that they have a great case here.
	They're going to – and it's a Fourth Amendment violation, a Fifth Amendment violation, and a First Amendment violation, which nobody brought up in the news.
	But the most newsworthy or most interesting thing for the no agenda thinking is this little tidbit that everybody seemed to overlook.
	Nobody wanted to bring it up, and I'll read it right from the page.
	Now, before you do that, who has filed this lawsuit?
	Larry Klayman, founder of Freedom Watch.
	Okay, so this is a guy who sues a lot.
	Public interest organization.
	Yeah, he's...
	He does this to get attention to the Supreme Court.
	Right, okay.
	He does this.
	It's the same thing as the ACLU does, only he'd beat him to it.
	In fact, people have talked about him beating the ACLU to the punch on this.
	Right, okay.
	Which makes you wonder.
	But anyway, but here's the thing about it.
	It's not just Kleinman or Klayman.
	It says, there's attorney Larry Klayman, founder of Freedom Watch, a public interest source, and Charles Strange.
	Now, this is the interesting part.
	Charles Strange is the father of Michael Strange, a cryptologist technician for the NSA... And support personnel for Navy SEAL Team 6, who was killed in Afghanistan when his helicopter was shot down in 2011.
	Oh, that's interesting.
	Don't you think that is kind of newsworthy?
	That would be clip of the day if it was a clip.
	I don't have a clip.
	No, I know, but that's...
	Wow, that's a great find.
	And he's a co...
	Co...
	Charles Strange is the co-complainant or plaintiff.
	He's the co-plaintiff.
	And they just mention it here.
	We're a bunch of lawyers, aren't we?
	We're not lawyers.
	We're not pretending to be lawyers.
	We just speak law.
	And besides that, we got it right.
	So anyway, so that was kind of interesting.
	It says they were shot down in 2011.
	They assert, which is strange and claiming, and how they got this to happen, they assert that they're subscribers of Verizon Wireless, and they bring suit against the NSA, the Department of Justice, several executives, President Obama, Holder, Keith Alexander, and the District Judge Robert Vinnison, as well as Verizon and his CEO. Good.
	So this is going to be a really nice case, but the judge himself stayed his...
	He filed the injunction.
	Yeah, but he said, but I'm going to leave it open because there's going to be an appeal anyway.
	He says he's going to stay it because otherwise there's just going to be a lot more paperwork.
	Right.
	So he gives the government...
	Do you think this guy is just trying to make a name for himself, this judge?
	No, no.
	The way you read this thing, this is a very good case.
	The judge is trying...
	The judge is just...
	He just looked at it and said, yeah, this is legit.
	It's very well done.
	So there's a couple things.
	This is very interesting.
	I didn't know about the father of the dead Navy SEAL. And why would he specifically be filing?
	Just for the exact same...
	It's the same complaint, right?
	Yeah.
	Well, I was thinking about that, too, when I read this.
	Here's what they're after.
	And this is why it's going to be a fun case to watch.
	They're going for discovery.
	Yeah, just so we could find out.
	The old man thinks something's fishy about that bull crap.
	When it came out in 2011, we talked about it extensively on the show, how half the team was wiped out in this crazy helicopter crash out of the blue.
	What were they doing together in the first place?
	It wasn't a crash.
	They were shot down.
	Yeah, they were shot down.
	It was brought down by a stinger or Al-Qaeda something.
	Or ours.
	Well, of course it had USA on it.
	Al-Qaeda don't make no stingers.
	So, I think Strange is after finding stuff out.
	That's good.
	Now, it's interesting because...
	I didn't pull any clips from it.
	This guy...
	Who's the other plaintiff?
	From Freedom Wash?
	He was on CNN last night.
	Don Lemon kicked him off.
	He actually kicked him off.
	He told his producer, shut his mic.
	And it's marginally funny, but it shows just how...
	How already mainstream is going to try and shut this case down, and how not a single word is uttered about this father.
	I think that is a great find.
	It turns out, however, if you listen to Dianne Feinstein here, that there was another case just a month ago where exactly the opposite took place, an opposite ruling, and she really wants this to go to the Supreme Court.
	Well, this was not the first time.
	Last month, there was a hearing of a case.
	The case of someone providing financial and other support to al-Shabaab.
	It took place in the Southern District of California.
	The judge was Jeffrey Miller.
	He found that the 215 program was constitutional.
	And the point of issue was specifically that.
	So you have one case a month ago which has not been reported on that I've seen, and you have the case of a few days ago which has been reported on extensively.
	Now what does this all mean?
	This means that clearly it's going to go up on appeal and go to the Supreme Court.
	And I very much would urge the court to take the case.
	Okay, so this I think is a setup, John.
	Whichever case you look at, the...
	The spider in the middle of the web, Dianne Feinstein, wants it to go to the Supreme Court, so it's a setup.
	Not necessarily.
	You know what you're saying?
	To be accepted, you're saying that this judge...
	Who wrote this very nice piece is corrupt in some form.
	No, well, I think the way it's been reported, he stayed his judgment because it would be too much paperwork because it's going to be appeal anyway.
	So he knows the whole point is we need to take it one step higher, which I guess would ultimately be the Supreme Court.
	Well, I think, yeah.
	I think he's assuming that.
	Right.
	And it seems like Dianne Feinstein is happy.
	What are you implying, though?
	This is set up so the Supreme Court can say, no, it's fine.
	We can hell with the Fourth Amendment when you got Scalia in there?
	I don't think that's going to happen.
	Yeah, you know what?
	This is what I've learned.
	And let me lead in with this clip.
	Today, an investigative panel raised some serious concerns and recommended some dramatic changes at the NSA. The 46 recommendations spelled out in the 300-page report are surprising and sweeping.
	The panel, chosen by President Obama, is urging that the NSA stop collecting and mining phone calls from Americans.
	The advisors say that surveillance program creates potential risks to public trust, personal privacy, and civil liberty.
	They also urge that spying on foreign citizens, including world leaders, must be carried out by a duly enacted law or executive order.
	And must be excessively directed at protecting national security interests.
	Okay, so that's the lead-in to this 308-page report, which I plowed through.
	Oh, you read this thing.
	Okay, before you go there, it's interesting.
	Do you have the list of the people that are on this, the people that produce this report?
	There are a bunch of White House stooges.
	Hello, this is how it starts off.
	Of course I have that.
	Okay, I wanted you to read those names because it includes, of all people, that guy, Richard Clark.
	No, no, no.
	Back up.
	Hold on.
	I'll scroll to that.
	Okay.
	Richard Clark.
	You want to explain who Richard Clark is?
	Dick Clark?
	Yeah, Dick Clark, who's been...
	We've seen him since we began this show.
	This character has been on and off the news.
	He's essentially, he's an ex CIA guy who was, he's began his career in media by bitching about the fact that he knew all about the, that Osama bin Laden was a bad guy and he was part of, he was him and that bearded guy, that other character, went on and he was him and that bearded guy, that other character, went on and on about how they, nobody listened to them when they said this
	And then he went from one thing to another, and Richard Clark finally ended up seeing that there was a bonanza in cybercrime anything.
	Right.
	Okay, that's just one of the names.
	The next name is Michael J. Morell.
	Where have we heard that name?
	Come on.
	He's another ex-agency guy, isn't he?
	He's the guy who's on his way out.
	He's the assistant deputy.
	He's the deputy director of the CIA. 33 years.
	He's on his way out.
	Going to write a great book.
	He did his first interview ever recently.
	You'll recall that.
	Yep.
	Then we have Jeffrey R. Stone is the next on the list.
	This is the cover.
	I think the guy, he wrote most of this.
	This is the lawyer.
	Of course, from Chicago.
	Chicago Law School.
	Gotta have your Chicago shill in there.
	A very famous and very well-respected lawyer, I would say.
	If you look at his...
	A book of knowledge entry.
	You can see all the things that he has done.
	But I thought, you know, the Chicago connection makes a lot of sense.
	And, of course, he's on the boards of a number of interesting organizations.
	Interesting being the operative word.
	Then we have Cass Sunstein.
	Cass Sunstein is, of course, the husband of our current ambassador to the United Nations, Susan Power.
	Power's power.
	Cass Sunstein authored the paper where he said that the authorities, the federal authorities, need to infiltrate groups of people talking crazy, like us, That's another reason.
	We're never going to get infiltrated.
	We don't have guests.
	Right.
	So Cast Unseen is a known operative when it comes to disinformation, and he writes about it.
	This is what he wants, what he does.
	Yes, that's his specialty.
	Then Peter Swire is the other guy to round out this list.
	He is Professor...
	Of business, I believe.
	But most importantly, he's a bigwig over there.
	He's a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress.
	So he is a super, super left-wing Obama bot who got thrown in there.
	These guys were handpicked.
	And this is almost like the 9-11 Commission.
	You know, it's really, it's not the people you want to have some kind of independent analysis.
	Well, not only that, but somebody on Democracy Now, and I have a clip, but it's not important, mentioned that the entire operation was officed and worked under Clapper.
	Oh, that makes total sense.
	He was the manager of the whole thing.
	Makes total sense.
	Makes total sense.
	Yeah.
	And I have marked up this entire document.
	We're not going to do all of that, but I encourage you to go to 575.nashownotes.com and take a look at it.
	And I've highlighted relevant passages.
	And I think I kind of know where they're going with this.
	And the way the media is reporting on this is, this panel, and no one ever says who's on it.
	I find that interesting.
	As far as I know, we're the only media outlet that has said, hey, it's the CIA guy, it's Cass Sunstein, it's Richard Clarke, are you kidding me?
	No, they all say, handpicked by the White House.
	Even Glenn Greenwald hasn't mentioned the names.
	Which leads me to believe they're just parroting what they hear.
	No one actually ever looks at this stuff.
	I'm not kidding.
	And by the way, I almost did die plowing through this.
	There's a lot of legalese, but it's a very interesting history of how FISA and the Foreign Intelligence Service Court came to be.
	It is well worth reading just to understand, because it really goes back to the 1970s to the Church Committee.
	That's where the FISA Court was created.
	And there's a lot of that history in here, and I cross-reference everything.
	I even put some links into the Book of Knowledge.
	And there's a couple things that they start off by saying, well, traditional distinctions between foreign and domestic are very unclear today.
	There's a lot of this fuzzy-wuzzy stuff.
	And essentially, this document is saying the same thing three times over, which I think is what most good documents do.
	You say it short, you say it a little bit longer, and then you say it really, really long with all of your sources and all of your important stuff in there.
	And as with everything, every recommendation they make, everything they say should change, which the media is running with as, well, this panel says the NSA should no longer store the data, the metadata.
	And in the document itself...
	Which is buried down on, whew, this has got to be page, like, more like 79.
	I'm going to see if I can scroll to it real fast.
	Hold on a second, third party.
	The NSA itself is happy with the recommendation.
	Of not having to store all this data themselves because, A, it's very costly and it's really complicated.
	B, they can't get it from everybody.
	And so they would much more prefer that they had real-time, and it's in this document, real-time interfaces to all providers' data so that they can do this on the fly when they have the appropriate approval, which will be just as simple as ever.
	Yeah, they want to use a distributed database and everybody else's storage capability.
	Yes, and it says in the document, the NSA is happy with this recommendation.
	They wanted to do it anyway.
	It literally says that in the document.
	So for the media to say, oh, this is...
	Oh, they hit them on the...
	Oh, they wrapped their knuckles, didn't they?
	Bullshit!
	They give me exactly what they want.
	Exactly what they want.
	And here's the thing that...
	The legalese that is coming into play and why I think that this is...
	And this has been...
	To the Supreme Court multiple times the Fourth Amendment.
	The Supreme Court ruled that wiretapping is not unconstitutional against the Fourth Amendment.
	This has already been hashed out many, many times.
	And we're like the boiling frogs.
	We've got to go through one more step, then we really got all these stupid human resources.
	And the approach is very interesting.
	Chapter 1, principles in this document.
	The United States government must protect at once two different forms of security.
	National security and personal privacy.
	Now here's the trickiness, John, and you're going to love what they're doing here.
	I'm reading from this document.
	In the American tradition, the word security has had multiple meanings.
	Aha!
	Were you aware of this, John?
	I am now.
	In contemporary parlance, it often refers to national security or homeland security.
	Thus understood, it signals the immense importance of counteracting threats that come from those who seek to do the nation and its citizens harm.
	One of the government's most fundamental responsibilities is to protect this form of security, broadly understood.
	And then they go into a whole thing about September 11, at the same time.
	The idea of security refers to a quite different and equally fundamental value, captured in the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution.
	The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated.
	This form of security is a central component of the right of privacy, which the Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis famously described as the right to be let alone, the most comprehensive of rights and the most valued by civilized men.
	And then they go in to literally look at the etymology of the word security.
	It might seem puzzling, or a coincidence of language, that the word security embodies such different values, but the etymology of the word solves the puzzle.
	Aha!
	There is no coincidence here.
	In Latin, the word securus offers the core meanings which include free from care, quiet, easy, and also tranquil, free from danger, and safe.
	People who are at physical risk because of a threat of external violence are by definition in danger.
	They are not safe.
	So too, people made insecure by their own government in their persons, houses, papers, and effects can hardly be free from care or tranquil.
	And indeed, the first sentence of the Constitution juxtaposes the two values explicitly using the word secure.
	And now they're saying secure means liberty and prosperity and the right to the pursuit of happiness.
	So they're trying to twist the word secure into something the government has to protect you from and against yourself so that you can have secure, i.e.
	liberty, And they're saying that the meaning of secure kind of also means that you have to have liberty, so we have to protect that by looking at your shit.
	Does that make any sense?
	Well, I can see what it's trying to make sense, but it doesn't, in fact, make sense.
	And to go back to the etymology of well-known terms, I mean, you can't...
	It's pretty specious, I'd say.
	It's like a gimmick.
	It's totally specious.
	It's a total gimmick, and so they're trying to find anything they can to rationalize what they're up to.
	I mean, I was watching, just as a side clip here, which is part of this, I saw Chris Matthews had Obama on.
	And the weird thing was Matthews had, and it was a sit-down someplace other than the studio.
	This is that tour that he did, remember?
	Remember I told you that he was doing a tour and the president showed up on his tour?
	Right, right, exactly what it was.
	And so Matthews is like, his mouth was kind of a gape.
	The whole time that Obama said this...
	Well, he has a heart on.
	Well, no, I think he was actually stunned.
	Oh.
	Because he had that look of the...
	There's a cartoon look that the Simpsons use once where the mouth is kind of open and you're like...
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	In shock.
	Uh-huh.
	But because you can't say anything because you're like the number one Obamabot currently in the MSNBC place.
	But listen to this nonsense from Obama.
	I've said before and I will say again, the NSA actually does a very good job about not engaging in domestic surveillance, not reading people's emails, not listening to the contents of their phone calls.
	Outside of our borders, the NSA is more aggressive.
	It's not constrained by laws.
	And part of what we're trying to do over the next month or so is, having done an independent review and brought a whole bunch of folks, civil libertarians and lawyers and others, to examine what's being done, I'll be proposing some self-restraint on the NSA to initiate some reforms that can give people more confidence.
	So his panel of outside people is that?
	Yeah, Sunstein is the libertarian.
	So wait a minute.
	How does Obama, as the president, how do you, or anybody, impose self-restraint on somebody on the basis of someone else?
	Adam, I want you to restrain yourself.
	I'm going to impose my will.
	You have to restrain yourself.
	It's not possible.
	This is bullcrap.
	The way it's described in this document is through, and of course this is where it gets interesting, through the executive orders.
	An executive order should constrain you to do certain things.
	But if you look what's happened, they're reaching back to 2010-2011 executive orders that just show the setup to this.
	If you didn't know better, and maybe we don't know better, it feels like the whole thing is a setup just to solidify the way that they've always wanted it to start with, which is really to have full access.
	Full estate.
	Well, yes, and have the distributed database and good to go.
	Yeah, that makes it a little cheaper.
	Better things do with that money.
	The interesting thing really is, though, to go back and see the history...
	Now, really, this started in 1928.
	This is when the Supreme Court first started looking at the emerging technologies of telephony.
	And this is when wiretapping was deemed not a search within the meaning of the Fourth Amendment.
	Then in 1978, 76, I think we had the Church Committee...
	And again, it went to the Supreme Court and it keeps coming back.
	We the people are not going to win this one.
	All that is really happening here is the systems are being set up so the minute it involves national security, imminent death...
	Or, you know, that's kind of their main things.
	Then all bets are off.
	We can go immediately.
	And there will be a change to national security letters, or that is the proposed recommendation, of which, by the way, 60 are written every single day.
	The FBI writes 60 national security.
	They did, in 2012, according to this document, over 30,000 national security letters.
	That's a lot of people that need to shut up.
	I think this is terrible.
	Of course.
	Something's got to be done about those national security letters.
	Well, there is a recommendation in here that they would have yet another secret judge who would take a look at that.
	It shouldn't just be the FBI, which I, of course, agree with.
	But I don't see...
	They're just using it as a...
	You know, this is...
	When I was doing...
	Like in the 90s, when I was doing this radio show, Real Computing, we had an FBI guy on, and this was when they were trying to push through...
	It was the Clipper chip.
	It wasn't the Clipper.
	It was some other thing.
	It was something that spies on your TV viewing or something.
	It was some ridiculous technology.
	And I made the assertion, and the guy really couldn't disagree with me, but the FBI would love...
	For their job to just be so easy that all they have to do is just tap everyone's phone, listen in, figure out who the bad guys are and go arrest them as opposed to actually doing police work.
	Because if you're in law enforcement, you have a choice between just spying on everybody, like the Stassi in East Germany.
	Just kick in bag, drink some coffee.
	Yeah, drink some donuts.
	Wait for the light to pop on.
	Yeah, and then you go bust the guy, throw him in jail, throw the keys away, and then you wait for the next light to come on.
	You don't have to do any work.
	You don't even have to be trained.
	And this is ideally what they want.
	Yes.
	Because when they have to do police work, they suck at it, apparently, and they don't want to improve their capabilities.
	And let me remind everybody, in the Time Magazine cover interview of Mark Zuckerberg, and I think this is, again, the only program that has ever really discussed this, in this cover article, there's Robert Mueller, then director of the FBI, pops his head around the corner while Zuckerberg's being interviewed and says, hey, I was in the building, just wanted to say hi.
	Yes.
	Because that's how they like it.
	And there is language in this document specifically saying that if people...
	And it's very case.
	What this document, I think, does besides the make it easy for the NSA to tap into everybody, if this would become a recommendation or a law or anything, again, this is just a document, but you know how these things go.
	Nothing is by chance with the Obama administration.
	So it's setting up the NSA for much easier work, which they like, as we've already identified.
	It's also setting up the conversation for, well, if you're giving all your information to other third parties anyway, and you're not worried about what they're doing with it necessarily, then why should it be a problem for that to be searched?
	That will be the next conversation.
	And then ultimately, let me see if I can find...
	Well, you know, they've already come up with some stories that have shown up on the media where the NSA has turned over data to the IRS. To bust people.
	And it turned over data on protest groups.
	Apparently, what was the thing in New York?
	The protest group that took place.
	Occupy Wall Street.
	Occupy was busted.
	So they're already doing this, and I think they sneak these things out every once in a while to see if anybody squawks about it.
	And the media doesn't say crap about this.
	In a series of decisions in the 1970s, the Supreme Court held that individuals have, quote, no reasonable expectation of privacy in information they voluntarily share with third parties, such as banks and telephone companies.
	And Facebook.
	Yeah, explain that, quote, what a person knowingly exposes to third parties is, quote, not a subject of Fourth Amendment protection.
	And then in Miller v.
	United States, the United Court applied this reasoning to bank records in Smith v.
	Maryland.
	It extended it to an individual's telephone calling records.
	This is history.
	They're just giving us fact.
	They're throwing it in your face, saying, you have no privacy, slave.
	Shut up.
	This has been decided.
	So we can go back again.
	But the only time it changed was recently, in 2012, with the GPS device being attached to the guy's car.
	You recall that, right?
	That was seen as a breach of someone's privacy under the Fourth Amendment.
	That was actually Sonia Sotomayor, Justice Sotomayor.
	She wrote that in her opinion.
	But otherwise, you have no right to privacy with any information you give to a third party.
	Now the problem is, of course, that we can't do without a lot of third parties.
	And the system is making it worse.
	Yes.
	Thank you.
	Ted Kaczynski rules once again.
	It always comes back to the Unabomber.
	I can't help myself.
	And gentlemen of the jury, you have to realize that Mr.
	Curry is a huge protege of Ted Kaczynski.
	That's right.
	Well, I don't know if you...
	Well, you probably did hear...
	Here are the news.
	It happened, or came out this morning.
	Here we go, talking about centralization.
	Well, sure, it's certainly not what consumers want to hear with the holiday shopping season now in high gear.
	As you said, the security breach involves stolen credit card and debit information, and according to the Secret Service, it could impact millions of people who shop at Target at stores all across the country.
	And tonight, at this Target store at 7th and Fig, shoppers we talked to are thinking twice now about using their credit.
	After hearing what investigators say appears to have happened here, a breach they say that may go back as far as Black Friday.
	Now, somehow, investigators believe cyber criminals hacked into the point-of-sale systems at Target's retail...
	This, by the way, is a very interesting report from KTLA, and I want to play the rest of it because they have two men on the street interviews.
	And it literally is a no-agenda guy and then all the rest.
	And it's those two people.
	This is about supposedly 40 million credit card slash debit card numbers stolen from point of sale systems at Target, which of course is the problem with your forced centralization of money, which is not always necessary.
	There are ways around it.
	We know that's where you swipe your card, give your personal information, including your PIN number.
	Now, how they did it isn't clear yet.
	The big concern, of course, is that these criminals may be using the information to create fake cards or use a person's PIN number to get into their ATM and take out money.
	This has happened at other retailers in the past.
	I should have cut this down.
	I apologize.
	That's why he only shops with cash.
	Yay!
	I just deal with cash now.
	That's the safest way to go about shopping, for me anyways.
	Okay, that's our no agenda guy.
	Are you ready?
	Are you ready for the rest?
	That's kind of scary.
	Oh, here they come.
	That's like your life.
	They could steal your information.
	That's like they're taking your life.
	They could take your identity.
	They could take your life.
	Because out here your identity is everything.
	Your identity is what matters because that's who you are.
	That's right.
	Keep your identity safe.
	Keep your ID cards.
	Don't become an invalid in society.
	Yeah, cash, people.
	We gotta get back to cash.
	This is crazy.
	I shopped at Target the one time I go.
	They steal the numbers.
	Yeah, it's funny, isn't it?
	Yeah, we bought Christmas lights for the house that decorated for the kids.
	Went to Target the one time I go.
	Okay, anyway, the recommendations are very...
	The only one that the media is able to pull out that makes any sense, that makes it sound like this panel, this blue ribbon panel did anything, is the one where they say, oh, well, you know, it should be a third party.
	It should either be the carriers themselves or...
	A third party.
	And I was looking at the big circle jerk fest of the Silicon Valley douchebags at the White House the other day.
	Oh, can you play a clip I have of that?
	Because this seemed to me to be...
	I don't know if you saw any of the videos.
	No, I did.
	I want to finish the thought and then...
	Okay, go on.
	I don't want to lose my train of thought on this.
	Well, then write it down.
	Make a mark.
	Tie a knot in your shoelace.
	Okay.
	But it dawned on me that looking at the list, and of course I saw the video and I actually have 35 seconds of audio that I wanted to play from it.
	The people missing, you know, there was no Cisco wasn't there.
	You know, the people that really matter, who are really part of the backbone of the internet.
	These guys weren't there.
	It was Marissa Meyer who was strategically placed.
	She looked all pretty.
	Eric Schmidt is right across from the present.
	And then we have the Netflix guy and we have the Salesforce.
	Really?
	No, no.
	This was a pitch.
	This was a pitch as to who can store all this data as far as I'm concerned.
	This was not anything else other than, hey, let's go hang out at the White House.
	And these guys are dicks.
	Let me play my little 35 seconds here, and I'll tell you what's happening so you can follow along.
	It's kind of hard to hear.
	The pool video is allowed to be shot, and the president is making some joke about the House of Cards.
	And then the Netflix guy goes...
	This is my clip!
	Well, then I'm setting it up.
	We have the same clue.
	No, no, play it, play it.
	And the Netflix guy goes, you want a cameo?
	And then Eric Schmidt is laughing like a moron.
	This is true.
	Like he's about to jump over and suck the president off.
	It's so scary.
	We brought the advanced copies of the House of Cards.
	you willing to do a little cameo?
	You willing to do a little cameo?
	You willing to do a little cameo?
	Well, I wish things were Are you willing to do a little cameo?
	Eric Schmidt is a weenie boy.
	He's a little suck-up, little weenie pussy boy.
	Did you see him?
	It was pathetic.
	And these are the people you trust anything with?
	Immediately.
	Sean Google!
	I'm canceling my Netflix for this, just for that one guy.
	So they had it set up, so Biden was sitting next to Marissa Meyer.
	Yeah.
	Which is just a horned dog sitting next to the only blonde, kind of cute blonde.
	Yeah.
	And then on the other side was...
	By the way, by the way, by the way.
	Sheryl Sandberg.
	Hold on.
	Hold on.
	Marissa looked hot.
	She looks hot, but she needs...
	She's photogenic, that's it.
	Yes, but she needs a little posture training, because now it looks like she was put there, like, oh, here's a chick.
	She needs to figure out how to sit, but she looks hot.
	She's photogenic.
	Photogenic, yeah.
	Very photogenic.
	Once she realized that, she had it made.
	Then Sheryl Sandberg, who's anything but photogenic, was over on the other side of the other girl of Obama.
	And there was somebody between Obama and her.
	I can't remember who.
	Some other guy.
	And then Jarrett's in there, and all the dicks are in there.
	Yeah, and they were just yucking it up.
	They didn't have anybody.
	They were supposed to go there to tell us, you know, to stop the NSA from doing this.
	No, they weren't.
	It was just a pitch.
	It's a drinking club.
	And they were there to pitch.
	And I'm telling you, they were there.
	Maybe Salesforce or someone wanted to pitch to store all the data.
	Because the recommendation specifically is a third party.
	But let me tell you, these people, they just want to suck up to the power.
	That's all that they're doing there.
	Every single one of them.
	It was so pathetic.
	Please, the video is linked in the show notes, 575.nashownotes.com.
	Look at that video.
	You can tell.
	You can see by the body.
	Particularly, Eric Schmidt was mind-boggling.
	This is one of the richest, most powerful technology people in the world.
	And he's completely molten goo by the fact that he's sitting across from the president.
	And you know these people.
	You dick.
	Disgusting.
	It was pretty disgusting, I have to say.
	Here's, to kind of move into the next phase here, Jake Tapper, just giving an idea of the conversation that will be the only thing that we'll keep talking about, even though this document itself says you really can't look at this being a balance between security and privacy, because it's the same thing.
	As you know, the word secure is what it's all about.
	But this is pretty much what the media is going to tell you.
	We're talking about security versus liberty.
	Ultimately, you don't hear John Boehner, your former boss, complaining about these NSA programs.
	He's actually a very strong supporter of them.
	And the same with a lot of Republicans.
	Yes, you have the Rand Pauls of the world.
	And yes, you have commentators talking about it.
	You have jerks like me covering it.
	But the bottom line is, I think the American people, honestly, want security over freedom.
	I really do.
	When it comes down to these little things.
	Jake Tapanen, he knows.
	Clip of the day.
	Really?
	Are you sure now?
	Because I may have more.
	No, no.
	You can't beat that one.
	It followed with douchebag.
	Douchebag.
	Unbelievable that anybody in that sort of situation would say something like that.
	For one thing, it's presumptuous.
	I mean, it's condescending.
	It's beneath contempt.
	The guy's a creep for saying that.
	That's what he does.
	I didn't know it was that bad.
	Now, I've discovered something in looking...
	The public, they'd rather be slaves under a strong government that protects them because they're scared little bunnies.
	Can't use that slave word.
	And they don't want freedom.
	They want to be safe in their little cages.
	You can't use that word.
	You can't use the S word.
	Do you know what slave means to people in America?
	All right.
	Now...
	Here's what's interesting.
	This is all about the NSA. One of our main theses, thesi, thorums, theoreticums, is that there is an ongoing battle between agencies, in particular the CIA and the NSA. The church committee,
	that was predominantly against the CIA. Now this is interesting because this could be a tit-for-tat ongoing battle that spans decades.
	In fact, Frank Church, who led the church committee, and he was a senator from Idaho, I believe, on Meet the Press had the following quote, and of course there's no audio.
	In the need to develop a capacity to know what potential enemies are doing, the United States government has perfected a technological capability that enables us to monitor the messages that go through the air.
	Now, that is necessary and important to the United States as we look abroad at enemies or potential enemies.
	We must know at the same time that capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left.
	Such is the capability to monitor everything, telephone conversations, telegrams, it doesn't matter.
	There would be no place to hide.
	If this government ever became a tyrant, if a dictator ever took charge in this country, the technological capacity the intelligence community has given the government could enable it to impose total tyranny.
	And there would be no way to fight back because the most careful effort to combine together in resistance to the government, no matter how privately it was done, is within the reach of the government to know.
	Such is the capability of this technology.
	I don't want to see this country ever go across that bridge I know the capacity that is there to make tyranny total in America, and we must see to it that this agency, and that's the key, and all agencies that possess this technology operate within the law and under proper supervision so that we never cross over that abyss.
	This is the abyss from which there is no return.
	He was talking about, without mentioning it, the NSA, after he fought the CIA in the Church Committee.
	My feeling, John, is that this is just the pendulum coming back at the NSA. Because the CIA got such a beating.
	This was about...
	Of course, the Pentagon Papers ultimately came from this church committee period.
	This was about Watergate.
	But it was all CIA. And the NSA was quietly building up.
	And here's Frank Church warning for exactly what we're seeing now.
	Exactly what we're seeing.
	And then the media...
	This is the thing that no one really...
	They knew it, but they didn't really see it.
	Like that Jake Tapper asshole...
	The media is so in.
	And I pulled a number of clips.
	I felt it my duty to pull clips from the CBS 60 Minutes NSA piece, which started with the most hilarious thing I've ever heard.
	This, by the way, is something that, in general, we need to watch out for in journalism, and we'll discuss after we hear it.
	Unprecedented access to NSA headquarters, where we were able to speak to employees who have never spoken publicly before.
	Full disclosure, I once worked in the office of the Director of National Intelligence, where I saw firsthand how secretly the NSA operates.
	It's often said, and...
	This full disclosure thing, I see this a lot in reporting.
	And it's like Kara Swisher would say, Oh, full disclosure, I'm married to a woman who is an executive at Google.
	Therefore, now that I fully disclose this, you can believe everything I say.
	Have you noticed this trend, John?
	This is funny you say this, because there's a clip I didn't pull, but I'll reprise it.
	They ran this on Democracy.
	Now, I do have two clips from this interview that was done about the Washington Post, Jeff Bezos, and the connection to the CIA, where they're accusing...
	That's the next piece.
	I can't wait for that.
	Okay, when you go to that...
	And they were talking to a professor of journalism up in Ithaca, and I do have a clip from him, but I don't have this part where he says...
	He says exactly that.
	But he doesn't say it in the skeptical way you're saying it.
	He says, well, you know, a lot of this wouldn't be a problem if they would just fully disclose every time they do an article on the CIA that Jeff Bezos is associated with the CIA because of their $600 million contract to do the server farm for the CIA. And that was so out of the blue.
	And I was thinking to myself, you know, exactly what you're thinking, what good does it do?
	I mean, I think you have to mention it occasionally, but I think for the most part in today's world, people can kind of put two and two together.
	Or maybe you shouldn't be doing a story on Google.
	No, thank you.
	It's becoming a meme.
	As long as you say full disclosure, people are like, oh, he disclosed it.
	It doesn't mean that all of a sudden the reporting is going to be non-biased.
	I got a great email from one of our producers.
	I'd already clipped this, and he said, oh, Adam, just so you know, this John Miller, who was chosen to do the 60-minute piece on the NSA. And by the way, John Miller, as far as I can tell, has never done anything for 60 minutes except this.
	Why didn't they send in one of their regular guys if this was sold?
	I have the answer.
	As part of the deal for CVS to get the exclusive, the NSA demanded the reporter be someone who had previously held a security clearance because a security clearance means you sign a lifetime nondisclosure agreement that covers not just classified information you may be privy to in your work, but all classified information, even leaked classified information, that you have seen in your entire life.
	So him doing this with this legally binding nondisclosure agreement Is the reason why they let him in at all.
	So nothing that they could classify would ever get out through this reporter.
	Well, it's worse than that because what it also indicates, which is the crazy part of it, is that anything that Snowden revealed could not be used as a question.
	Exactly!
	That's exactly correct!
	So he could not counter anything.
	Whatever was said, if he had evidence to the contrary, based on these leaks, he couldn't use that question.
	Exactly.
	Because he'd be thrown in the slammer.
	And CBS put up with this bullshit?
	What is wrong with these guys?
	First they have this Laura Logan, who's obviously a corrupt reporter, and now we have this, and these guys expect people to take them seriously?
	Yes, because we have become anesthetized to the, oh, full disclosure.
	You can't, this is, you can't, the full disclosure would have been, I have a lifetime non-disclosure agreement.
	I can't even ask about information that has been leaked because I can't even talk about it if it's classified.
	And probably in the non-disclosure, you can't say that either.
	Exactly!
	Exactly!
	So this is the Tiffany Network.
	Well, oh wait, Walter Cronkite just puked in his mouth.
	Or was it Edward R. Murrow?
	I can't remember.
	Someone puked.
	It is unconscionable that 15 seconds of, oh, full disclosure, I used to work in the DNI's office.
	Wow!
	Wow!
	Okay, so while we're at it, he might as well just sell the lie.
	And when you listen to it, and this is what's so beautiful, when you don't see that guy's big head, that John Miller's big head, filling up my screen, my 4K screen...
	When you don't see his head and you listen, you can hear how he is.
	It's almost like it's scripted.
	If a terrorist is suspected of having contacts inside the United States, the NSA can query a database that contains the metadata of every phone call made in the U.S. going back five years.
	So you understand then, there might be a little confusion among Americans who read in the newspaper that the NSA has vacuumed up the records of the telephone calls of every man, woman and child in the United States for a period of years.
	That sounds like spying on Americans.
	Right, and that's wrong.
	That's absolutely wrong.
	You don't hear the call.
	You don't hear the call?
	You don't see the name.
	He's giving him the answers.
	He's not asking questions.
	You don't see the names.
	You just see this number called that number.
	This is not an interview!
	He's answering questions!
	This number, the to-from number, the duration of the call, and the date-time group.
	That's all you get.
	And all we can do is tell the FBI that number is talking to somebody who is very bad.
	You ought to go look at it.
	By the way, one of the recommendations in the report I just remembered is that, and this is an extension of powers, the recommendation is if the FBI, if someone travels to the United States, the NSA would be given 72 hours to continue to follow him instead of currently where they are supposedly supposed to stop and then hand it over to the FBI. So it's an extension of powers, 72 hours extra.
	I've got to interrupt your question.
	Because you've gone into Alexander and his bull crap.
	I think we can make a segment out of this.
	Because during a hearing, Alexander came up with another analogy.
	Another bad analogy.
	That is kind of like the excuse for using this metadata, because I think he should have used the analogy.
	He didn't do any of these joke analogies on 60 Minutes, but this one here is just so much of an eye roller as the submarine one.
	Billions and billions of books of information that are out there.
	There is no viable way to go through that information if you don't use metadata.
	In this case, metadata is a way of knowing where those books are in the library and a way of focusing our collection, the same that our allies do, to look at where are the bad books.
	From our perspective, from the National Security Agency's perspective, what we do is get great insights into the bad actors overseas.
	I think we need to start burning books again.
	Bad books.
	Bad?
	Well, you know what?
	We will turn it into a segment.
	Here is something about a bad book.
	The New York Daily News says the author of the Anarchist Cookbook wants his work pulled from shelves.
	Burn it!
	It's being linked to last week's Colorado high school shooting.
	Burn it!
	William Powell's guide includes instructions on making explosives.
	Burn it, I say!
	Burn it!
	Yeah, that's where we're headed, people.
	Don't worry.
	Don't worry.
	Okay.
	Now, of course, you can't do anything in any kind of fear-based program unless you link it to 9-11.
	This is our standard.
	This is how we do it.
	This is how we roll.
	We know it's a part of the talking points.
	Let's roll back to 9-11.
	And these phone calls may go between different phone companies.
	If you only go to one company, you'll see what that phone company has, but you may not see what the other phone company has or the other.
	So by putting those together, we can see all of that essentially at one time.
	Before 9-11, did we have this capability?
	We did not.
	Is it a factor?
	Was it a factor?
	I believe it was.
	What General Alexander...
	Now, wait.
	Now, listen to this.
	Now, this is interesting.
	So, this is typical...
	Don't play with that thing, John.
	It's annoying when I'm trying to think.
	I was just dropping a coin in a jar.
	This is very annoying when you have an interviewer ask a question...
	And then the subject answers the question, but then they turn down his volume, and then over his answer, say what the answer is.
	This is the worst, lowest form of journalism there is.
	I believe it was.
	What General Alexander is talking about is that two of the 9-11 hijackers, Khalid al-Midhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi, were in touch with an al-Qaeda safe house in Yemen.
	The NSA did not know their calls were coming from California, as they would today.
	I think this was the factor that allowed Madar.
	So did you hear what they just did there?
	Yeah, they took the...
	He was saying something, but it wasn't even...
	It wasn't...
	Yeah, they were amplifying a point.
	Yes.
	Using a trick.
	Using a TV trick.
	Without even...
	Voicing over the guy's actual comments.
	And you see...
	To explain it to the idiots watching the show.
	But we don't even know what he said!
	Alright, if you're a sysadmin...
	The war is on you.
	There are all kinds of figures out there about how much he took, how many documents.
	We've been told 1.7 million.
	And by the way, this number is a CBS number.
	We have no idea where this comes from.
	Even Grant Greenwald has not given us this number.
	This is an interesting number.
	We have no idea about this, but okay.
	I wouldn't dispute that.
	How is that possible?
	So the people who control that, the access to those machines, are called system administrators.
	Ah!
	Ah, sysadmins!
	And they have passwords that give them the ability to go around those security measures, and that's what Snowden did.
	I think, you know how...
	Here's my prediction.
	Okay, I have a prediction about this too, but go ahead.
	CIS admins are going to be required to get licensed, and they will all receive a variation of a national security letter that will require them to not do certain things, report certain things, and actually be a partner with the government.
	You know how in a nunnery, in a convent, they only have eunuchs around?
	I think that's where we're headed.
	They're going to cut the nuts off of the sysadmans?
	Poke your eyes out.
	You'll have one capability.
	So maybe you can use your hands, but you'll have to have the guy with the eyes to sit next to you.
	They're going to disable you one way or the other.
	That's the extent to which these people are crazy, John.
	And, of course, we know sysadmins, and I know a sysadmin who worked on the drone program.
	When this sysadmin left, they said, hey, would you please change the root password and give it to the next guy?
	Are you kidding me?
	This is how dumb it is.
	They're just dumb.
	These people, they have fiefdoms.
	They don't give a crap about security, really.
	They just want, ugh, it's disgusting.
	And of course, it's the Chiners.
	So, I'm going to assume that there's one in there about China, and there's one in there about Iran, and there's another in there about Russia.
	Let me just get this right.
	We're about to accuse China, Russia, and Iran of hacking and spying and being horrible.
	No one.
	Many more than one?
	Yes.
	How many of those are there?
	About 31,000.
	If those documents fell into their hands, what good would it do them?
	It would give them a road map of what we know, what we don't know, and give them implicitly a way to protect.
	Exactly.
	So now we go into the dashboard.
	This is so funny, because this is the proof that these are basically Silicon Valley yahoos.
	Twice a week, under the dim blue lights of the NSA's operations center, the director is given a briefing.
	Sir, we added three new hostage cases this week.
	With his deputy, Chris Inglis, General Alexander listens to a rundown of global issues and international crises the NSA may be asked to collect intelligence on.
	Sir, moving to Afghanistan.
	The meeting is called the stand-up because no one sits down.
	And they're wearing camo.
	Well, I got an answer about that.
	I got the answer, too.
	The same letter from the guy that talked about the camo?
	Yeah, we got a camo letter.
	Okay, but the stand-up is a Silicon Valley thing.
	Remember this at Mevio that we had a new CTO came in and he decided we should do a stand-up meeting?
	He's also changed the name of the meeting to...
	Stand-up!
	The Daily Stand-Up!
	No, but there was a other thing that was changed.
	Anyway, go on.
	Who cares?
	It's just the whole culture of this thing is just creepy.
	Especially with the camo on.
	The camo is standard, apparently.
	We've got so many people yelling at us about it.
	Heaven forbid it's snipers.
	The camo is standard.
	We were wrong about the camo.
	No, we weren't.
	Yeah, we were.
	The perception from the people.
	No, we weren't.
	Yes, we were.
	Our assumption is that it's stupid.
	How is that wrong?
	You're right.
	I'm sorry.
	I forgot that was our assumption.
	They're comfortable, apparently.
	All right, here's Alexander setting up the pitch.
	It could take down anything from the power grid to Wall Street.
	Could a foreign country tomorrow topple our financial system?
	I believe that a foreign nation could impact and destroy major portions of our financial system.
	Answer the question.
	Yes.
	How much of it could we stop?
	Well, right now it would be difficult to stop it because our ability to see it is limited.
	Ooh.
	One they did see coming was called The Bios Plot.
	Ah, this is my favorite.
	This is the one that anyone who has any knowledge of how things work saw right through.
	Now, Kaiser Alexander is smart.
	He's not going to roll this bullcrap out himself.
	So here, let's push a woman out there.
	Oh, wait.
	Let's push a black woman out.
	That's even funnier.
	I'm telling you, John, this is how these people think.
	And did you see?
	I mean, you saw this.
	You saw what happened.
	This is disgusting.
	Make her tell the big lie about the bios that bricks the economy.
	Plunkett directs cyber defense.
	Yeah, this was horrible.
	This is really, really bad.
	And they made her tell it, which was just disgusting.
	The NSA, and for the first time, discusses the agency's role in discovering the plot.
	One of our analysts actually saw that the nation state had the intention to develop and to deliver, to actually use this capability to destroy computers.
	To destroy computers.
	To destroy computers.
	So the BIOS is a basic...
	So they said it three times in a row.
	Did you hear that?
	Yeah.
	Destroy computers, destroy computers, destroy computers.
	That's how you remember things.
	This is mind control, people.
	He says destroy computers.
	He says destroy computers.
	She says destroy computers.
	One, two, three, punch.
	You remember.
	And 60 Minutes is what the intelligentsia, what the elites, what schooled people, my friends in Austin, Texas, watch 60 Minutes and take it as truth.
	It's like it's 60 Minutes, man.
	They take it as truth?
	They take it as truth.
	They take it as truth?
	They take it as truth.
	Destroyed.
	Destroyed.
	Destroyed computers.
	destroyed computers destroyed computers bios is a basic input output system it's like the foundational component firmware of a computer you start your computer up the bios kicks in it activates hardware it activates the operating system it turns on the computer this is the bios system which starts most computers The attack would have been disguised as a request for a software update.
	If the user agreed, the virus would have infected the computer.
	So this basically would have gone into the system that starts up the computer, runs the systems, tells it what to do.
	That's right.
	And basically turned it into a cinder block.
	A brick.
	And after that there wouldn't be much you could do with that computer.
	Hold on a second.
	Hold on.
	Stop the presses.
	Stop.
	Presses are stopped.
	So you're telling me the government is buying computers that don't have a factory reset, a hard reset on the motherboard, which all of them do.
	I've got machines all over the place.
	And there's a little clip you put on, and it resets the BIOS to factory reset in case something like this happens.
	So how is this a cinder block or a brick?
	Does it make the thing catch on fire?
	I mean, what am I missing here?
	Or are they just full of crap?
	Ah, that would be it.
	I will point out that this, of course, this is a major security issue.
	It's an issue with the Microsoft Update Tuesday.
	It's an issue with any centralized updating system.
	It is probably the most looked-after system in any computer peripheral company.
	Interesting that one of the recommendations of the...
	Of this document, the 300-page document, is specifically, specifically to allow the NSA, under certain circumstances, to launch zero-day attacks.
	It says it specifically in the document.
	That under certain circumstances, the NSA should be allowed to launch zero-day exploit and attacks to protect our national security.
	And this is a good way to do that.
	Think about the impact of that across the entire globe.
	It could literally take down the U.S. economy.
	I don't think so.
	What is she saying?
	She's insane.
	This woman should be ashamed of herself.
	No, she shouldn't.
	She's being pushed to do this.
	It's shameful they made her do this.
	I don't mean to be flip about this, but...
	But, okay, stand by everybody.
	But I will.
	Stand by, here it comes.
	It has a kind of a little Dr.
	Evil quality to it that I'm going to develop a program that can destroy every computer in the world.
	It sounds almost unbelievable.
	Don't be fooled.
	Don't be fooled!
	There are absolutely nation states who have the...
	Hold on a second, you've got to hear that last bit.
	...program that can destroy every computer in the world, it sounds almost unbelievable.
	Don't be fooled.
	There are absolutely nation states who have the capability and the intentions to do just that.
	Based on what you learned here at NSA, would it have worked?
	We believe it would have.
	Yes, it would have worked.
	And they stopped it, John.
	How did they stop it?
	The BIOS bricking.
	I don't know.
	They killed it.
	They saw the guy.
	What evidence do they have?
	And if somebody wants to do this because they're out to get us, why don't they do it now?
	What's the point?
	Why wait?
	A couple more quick, really quick hits here.
	I had a question about this.
	This week, the CEOs of eight major Internet providers, including Google, Apple, and Yahoo, asked the President for new limits to be placed on the NSA's ability to collect personal information from their users.
	What exactly?
	I don't like this internet provider meme anymore.
	They're not internet providers.
	Exactly.
	And they're providers of services on the internet.
	Yes.
	But an internet provider is essentially an ISP. And more interesting, the actual internet providers weren't there.
	This is the whole joke.
	The internet providers were not at the meeting.
	The guys who actually open up the light port so that the NSA can tap in, they're not there.
	They've got nothing to say.
	It's like, oh yeah, you're in.
	And here's proof in Kaiser Alexander's words that they are sucking it up from the network.
	So our objective is to collect those communications no matter where they are.
	But we're not going into a facility or targeting Google as an entity or Yahoo as an entity.
	But we will collect those communications of terrorists that flow on that network.
	As long as it flows on the network, you see.
	It flows on the network, John.
	That's what it's about.
	I've got to go back to the document, then I have one final clip, and I'll round this out.
	These yahoos, these geniuses, these shills who wrote this report...
	Near the end they say, it might reduce budgetary costs and political risk if technical collection agencies could make use of artificial intelligence software that could be launched onto networks and would be able to determine in real time what precise information packets should be collected.
	Such smart software will be making the sorting decision online as distinguished from current situation in which vast amounts of data are swept up and the sorting is done after it has been copied onto the data storage systems.
	We're unable to determine whether this concept is feasible or fantasy, but we suggest it should be examined by an interagency information technology research team.
	Bonanza!
	As soon as you read that, that's the first thing I'm thinking.
	I'm wondering what J.C. is going to do next for his next programming game.
	It'll be that.
	This is hundreds of millions of dollars down the drain.
	I guarantee Richard Clark will be in it somehow.
	Of course he will.
	That's why he wrote it right in there.
	This is his setup for the next...
	His setup for just scoring the big dough.
	Oh yeah, and then there's one other thing you'll hear is a recommendation that a civilian should be running the agency.
	Now, let me just tell you what that means.
	That's code, okay?
	And this is code for a spy.
	My Uncle Don, when you would read about him in his early career in the New York Times, it would say, Donald Gregg, civilian at the Pentagon.
	This is code!
	They want a CIA guy to run the NSA! Yeah, Obama nixed that already.
	Yeah, I know.
	And then while we're at it, just to finish up the whole 60 minutes, why don't we completely discredit Edward Snowden by making him seem completely kooky?
	He was taking a technical examination for potential employment.
	Oh, and a cheat.
	He used his system administrator privileges to go into the account of the NSA employee who was administering that test.
	Isn't this the guy you want to promote?
	Isn't this the guy who's a genius?
	Did you miss the meme?
	They threw the meme at us.
	High school dropout.
	He was taking a technical examination.
	I forgot to put that in, you're right.
	For potential employment at NSA, he used his system administrator privileges to go into the account of the NSA employee who was administering that test, and he took both questions and the answers and used them to pass the test.
	At home, they discovered Snowden had some strange habits.
	He would work on the computer with a hood that covered the computer screen and covered his head and shoulders so that he could work and his girlfriend couldn't see what he was doing.
	This seems like standard procedure to me.
	But no, no, no, let's call it very...
	Well, he was supposed to be.
	He was protecting the data.
	It seems like he was doing his job.
	Yeah, but no, that's kooky.
	That's pretty strange, sitting at your computer, kind of covered by a sheet over your head and the screen.
	Agreed.
	Agreed.
	We also learned, for the first time, that part of the damage assessment considered the possibility that Snowden could have left a bug or virus behind on the NSA's system.
	Yeah, this is the funny.
	I love this part.
	Like a time bomb.
	A time bomb!
	Like a time bomb!
	It's...
	So all the machines that he had access to, we removed from our classified network.
	All the machines in the unclassified network and including the actual cables that connect those machines, we removed as well.
	The cables!
	The cables!
	It could be lurking in the cables.
	Are you telling me that that's the technical expertise of this entire organization has gone to removing cables?
	Yeah, problem solved.
	Because they're afraid there's some evil thing lurking in the cable?
	Problem solved.
	Problem solved.
	Holy mackerel, this is the most frightening thing they said on that show.
	This has to have cost.
	Millions and millions of dollars.
	Millions and millions.
	All right, so to summarize, everybody, this document, which is now being touted as a great recommendation, is nothing more than a big bonanza for some of the...
	And by the way, Morell's leaving.
	You know, he'll wind up at some kind of company that does this stuff.
	CEO, chairman of the board.
	He's not going to run anything.
	Just get paid.
	No, he won't be CEO, right?
	He'll just be getting cash.
	Exactly.
	They're going to build this software, which is a recommendation.
	The NSA is going to have much easier access.
	It'll be interesting to see.
	I have a feeling that there is going to be a pitch and there will be a third party.
	I have a feeling that it's too nice of an opportunity.
	Too much money.
	Too much money.
	And it could be Adobe.
	All they have to do is just walk it across the street in Utah.
	The data center is right across from the NSA. And Adobe's been left out of the picture.
	They weren't given the opportunity to sit at the table with Obama and yuck it up and drink.
	You might be right.
	They may be this setup for Adobe.
	Waltz in.
	Yep.
	I have a feeling that Adobe is ready.
	They already have the information.
	Omniture.
	Please look at Omniture.
	Look at what it's doing.
	Look at what it stores.
	Look at the information.
	Look at their white papers.
	They have a military and governmental program for Omniture, so you can find out what's happening in real time with someone's computer.
	This is what Adobe is very...
	We're going to see.
	I think they got a little ding with the password thing that hacked.
	Maybe that was industrial espionage to make them look bad with this pending.
	I'm sure there's competition for that job.
	Nothing is off the table at this point.
	And with Tapper on CNN, what he's saying, and with this completely unjournalistic All in, scripted, 60 minutes piece.
	There is nothing left to believe.
	Except us, of course, because we have nothing left to lose.
	Well, we don't, uh...
	We don't have the conflict of interest, as we pointed out in the newsletter.
	We rely on the listeners of this show to do the kind of research we do and to come to the conclusions we come to.
	Sometimes we're not right.
	Rarely.
	But it happens.
	But if nothing else, we're not influenced.
	I mean, we are influenced by the media itself, but we try to catch most of the bull crap, and I think we reveal that we've caught it 90% of the time.
	I suppose something sneaks through.
	Rarely.
	But you can't rely on anything else.
	I mean, it shows, and I don't even know any other shows like ours that are so complete to do this.
	We really need the kind of support that we're not getting enough of from the number of people that listen to the show.
	And I'm also disappointed in people that bail from the show after a while because they find what we do is depressing.
	When that's not the point.
	No, in fact, it's quite the opposite.
	You're supposed to feel enlightened that you know what's going on.
	I guess it's a blue pill, red pill choice, which I hate that, by the way.
	I don't like that either.
	I don't think either.
	But it's like, okay, forget it.
	I'm not going to listen to these guys anymore because I kind of like what I'm told by these liars.
	Yeah.
	That's serious.
	They make a choice to do that.
	Yeah.
	Well, good luck to them.
	Well...
	With that said, as always, thank you for your courage.
	And in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
	Well, in the morning to you, Adam Curry, and also in the morning to all the ships out there that are at sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and all the knights out there.
	And, of course, our human resources in our chatroom, noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net.
	Our artists, we had a great piece of art, a lot of competing pieces of art, actually, for 574.
	Festival Wibbrowski.
	Which I think is a pseudonym.
	Yeah, because if you don't click on the link, but if you just look at the thing, it's got his name in the piece.
	Oh, really?
	Yes, and you know who it is, and I know who it is.
	I don't know if he wants to let everyone know.
	Maybe not.
	Well, look, we're crediting as it's...
	Noagendaartgenerator.com And as always, we look forward to seeing what the sharp wit of our artists come up with.
	I think it's now working in iOS 7.
	I've been very careful to make sure we get the Get the art in.
	It's like an extra iTunes tag.
	Another non-standard thing.
	Gotta throw in there.
	I gotta decode that by hand to make sure it flows in, but oh well.
	We have one executive producer and four associates, and we want to thank them, beginning with Dennis Nutting in Hilo.
	He's in Hilo, Hawaii.
	What a life.
	Which is a cute little town.
	I don't know.
	When I was in Hilo, I was only there once ever.
	And I was there when the old airport was still in business.
	And the old Hilo airport was the quaintest thing you've ever seen.
	I mean, everything was outside.
	It's just really cool.
	Anyway, Hilo, Hawaii.
	And he has a note he sent in.
	Hello, Adam and John.
	Enclose a little Christmas wish for you and yours.
	You certainly have helped me make my year a great one.
	I still do not deserve a dedouching as I'm way behind in the value for devalue deal we have made.
	You are finally receiving your due as I just made the very last payment to the crappy divorce lawyer.
	Oh, gosh.
	Yes.
	And you certainly deserve more than he does.
	He gave us 33333.
	More will follow.
	Thank you for your courage, and thank you for enlightening us slaves.
	Well, thank you very much.
	It's certainly yours, and Merry Christmas.
	Thank you very much, Dennis.
	And, of course, that is a real executive producer credit.
	You can use it anywhere the credits are accepted and valid.
	Hollywood would be one place, your IMDb, but also your LinkedIn is a great place to put your credit as executive producer of the No Agenda Show, episode 575.
	Brian Kaufman from Phoenix, Arizona writes in.
	He gave us 222.22.
	Sorry if it's been so long.
	I've been in law school the last three years, although I've managed to finish my knighthood.
	Is this the finish of his knighthood?
	I don't know.
	No, I think he's already a knight, isn't he?
	I'm not sure.
	Yeah, he is.
	It says Sir Brian.
	Yeah, he's already a knight.
	Okay, that's what I thought.
	And maintain a 12-12 subscription.
	I graduated in May, became a member of the Arizona Bar in October.
	By the way, he wrote this by hand.
	And just started working and got my first paycheck.
	He looks like a psychopath.
	He's a lawyer.
	No, he's under 30 or whatever age it is that you can't write.
	Yeah, but he's a lawyer.
	And he's a lawyer.
	Doctors would be worse.
	Okay.
	He got my first paycheck as a lawyer yesterday.
	Congratulations.
	My $2.22 donation is just to make it rain.
	The nice clubs these days are giving out $2 bills instead of ones.
	That's interesting.
	So not a double.
	No particular call-out.
	I will be happy with everyone else's sloppy seconds.
	Adam can have any dudes.
	Thanks.
	Thanks for the show.
	I can pick up the sloppy second dudes.
	Is that what I'm hearing?
	Come on.
	Just keep it clean.
	It's a family show.
	Associate Executive Producer Brian, thank you.
	This is not a family show.
	Christopher Grimm.
	Well, there's a lot of families.
	Hey, Sayerville.
	It's been a while since I've been down there.
	Yeah, $200 and one cent.
	Hello, Bob Cratchit and Tiny Tim.
	Thank you for your courage.
	I'm a recent college graduate with a degree in theater, but I had to get a real job to start paying the bills.
	The good news is I've been able to save enough money to become an associate executive producer of the best podcasts in the universe.
	Please give me some job karma and some getting laid karma if anyone is looking for an actor in the greater New York area.
	I think there would be.
	Visit my website, About Me.
	About.me slash Chris Grimm.
	About.me slash Chris, C-H-R-I-S Grimm, G-R-I-M-M. And take a look at my headshot and resume.
	You know, you have to do a little more than that to get...
	It's called cattle calls.
	Thanks for the amazing service you guys provide.
	Hail the foot.
	Yeah, it's amazing.
	A-H hyphen amazing.
	Amazing.
	Amazing.
	Here you go again.
	Late job karma for you.
	Thank you very much, Christopher.
	You've got karma.
	We wish you nothing but the best, of course.
	Mike Sabers in Danville, Pennsylvania.
	$200.
	Merry Christmas, Mike.
	So apparently this wasn't really from him.
	With love from your girls.
	Oh, well, that's nice.
	Yeah, somebody's got his account.
	He's got two babes?
	Or more.
	Or more.
	Gee, it could be his daughters.
	Who knows?
	We don't know.
	Charles Gene Kohler in Mountlake Terrace, Washington.
	$200 to the final associate executive producers.
	Who writes a note on the back of a small receipt for Chinese goods, apparently.
	I love your courage.
	That's it.
	That's all he says.
	Charles, Mike, Christopher, Brian, and Dennis for helping us out on show 575.
	And we want to remind people to go to dvorak.org slash nachanneldvorak.com slash nanoagendashow.com and noagendanation.com.
	There's a donate button on both those sites.
	And help us for the next show on Sunday.
	We are coming up a little light considering it's Christmas.
	And last year we did a really good...
	We had a good December.
	And this year it's pretty nothing.
	Yeah.
	Except for our fine friends here.
	And that's it?
	We'll have a very short segment for thank yous as well.
	But okay.
	I don't know.
	This is not like last year.
	Yeah, I know.
	It's weird for sure.
	Please consider us as we are working very hard to bring you...
	More value than you get from your cable bill, perhaps, than you get from maybe your newspaper or magazine subscription.
	More insight, that's for sure.
	A lot of people will say, oh man, what do you think about this?
	What do you think about that?
	You know what?
	Just wait until the show.
	You don't have to read.
	You don't have to watch anything.
	And we'll give you all the angles.
	And you can probably make up your own mind, ultimately.
	But we'll certainly give you a fun perspective to look at.
	And people do that more and more.
	Why bother?
	We'll do all that for you.
	That is our job.
	It's what we do so you don't have to.
	And please, we would appreciate you going out there and...
	Oops.
	What did I do wrong here?
	This is the one I want.
	Yes, we want you to go out there and propagate our formula.
	I'm sorry.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Water.
	Order.
	Shut up, slave.
	Shut up, slave.
	Yeah, that's the...
	I'm going to have a little bit of coffee here.
	That's the illness creeping in.
	And rest in peace there, Al Goldstein died.
	Oh, Screw Magazine.
	He used to have a show, my favorite thing he ever did.
	I think that was disgusting, by the way.
	It was great.
	The best thing he did, he was on Public Access in New York, which was always the funniest.
	I was in New York when Midnight Blue was the show.
	When he had that show, I lived in New York at that time.
	It was Channel J. I thought Alex Bennett did Midnight Blue.
	I'm pretty sure it was...
	Well, whatever the case was, Goldstein was always on public access doing one thing or another.
	And my favorite one was he had this show...
	Where you were invited to come on, I guess, and cuss out people.
	Yeah.
	And he had two complaints.
	I saw this show a couple times.
	All it was was Goldstein on the screen giving the finger and saying, fuck you, Hammacher Schlemmer or whatever the company's name.
	Whoever he was angry at.
	And fuck you, United Airlines.
	And he tells some story about how they screwed him out of a dollar or just they wouldn't refund his money or something.
	Right.
	And then he would sit there and scream at them.
	And I just thought this was like, well, this is what it's come to.
	Yeah.
	But on the other hand, those were the golden days of free speech.
	The whole idea of cable access, when cable first started, no one knew what to do with cable.
	They didn't get it.
	I mean, you kids here today, you think it's normal.
	That's television.
	Advertisers were like, who's going to watch that crap?
	No one got it.
	And part of the deal was, in order to have a cable company, which is kind of a monopoly, in the region you had to allow public access and anyone could show up with their tape and you'd have to have channels for people to put it on.
	And Al Goldstein, who was really, yeah, he was a disgusting creep, but he was a free speech advocate and you need people like him to push those boundaries to show that you're supposed to be able to do that and I guarantee you If today you tried to do this type of show anywhere on cable, that it would be thrown off.
	Yeah, if you didn't get jailed.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And so, of course, that's why we've migrated to podcasting.
	Which brings up one other thing I wanted to...
	I didn't see your name on it.
	Did you see this...
	Writers for free speech thing that they sent to the president.
	Was it ACLU or the PEN? Was it Penn, I think?
	Penn America Center.
	It was like 400 or 500 writers all said, you know, stop the surveillance because we're self-censoring.
	You didn't see this at all?
	I mean, that's self-censoring.
	Sorry?
	No, you're not.
	No, I think I heard about it.
	I didn't pay much attention.
	Well, there's a number of articles, and I'm just bringing this up for this very reason why it's interesting that we have taken to the podcasting in our artistic and our expression.
	Because there's many articles saying how writers are not talking about things as much on the phone.
	Because writers are pussies, apparently.
	And journalists are probably the bigger pussies.
	And of course, they're right to be worried because you are being listened to.
	But also, what people write, they're holding back their self-censoring.
	And I thought to myself, this is kind of beautiful because the podcast...
	Yeah, I think some transcription may be possible, but in general I think it's not.
	The NSA, no one has time to listen to what we're saying, the type of information and news that we are actually giving, and if they did, they'd be sucked in within a minute.
	They'd be donating.
	So we are kind of the perfect avenue, because it's not something that gets sucked up in machine language that can read words.
	And it's too much work to go through everything, but if someone does take the time, I think they'll probably like it.
	Yeah, I think so.
	So I think this is a very important service.
	Yeah.
	That's what we say.
	That's what we keep trying to convince ourselves.
	Just pointing it out.
	I just need to convince myself.
	Somebody's got to do it.
	I mean, it's a once in a while.
	Essentially, what I saw on the Elle Goldstein show, and I think that's what it was called now that I think about it, and Robin, what's her name?
	Robin Bird.
	Robin Bird.
	She was nude.
	Yeah.
	And she just gave interviews.
	She was naked.
	And we did the bang your butt song at the end.
	I don't remember that, but whatever.
	And then there was the, you know, the extra E is for extra P, girl, and all the rest of it that was on.
	There was a goal.
	It was just a funny moment in history that disappeared completely.
	It was beautiful.
	And now, as we get to, as they start clamping down and smashing the scent and all the rest of it, and I want to tell people out there who think about donating, say, ah, screw those guys.
	I can get it for free.
	Why should I give them a nickel?
	I want to just say, you know, you probably listen to something that won't ever be seen again, anything like it, probably five or ten years from now.
	It'd be like, oh, I remember those guys that used to tell all these things, and they used to go through documents, and now they won't even let us see the documents.
	Remember how I never donated to those guys, and now they're dead.
	Yeah, I never donated because, you know, I didn't think it was worth it.
	Why should I donate?
	And now they're dead.
	Now, we've got people that donate over and over again, which is, you know, the ideal.
	Yeah.
	But there's so many people out there that just are too, you know, it reminds me, in fact, talking about cheap, I mean, it's like the story going around, we'll get to next, which is the Indian diplomat story.
	It's a funny story in itself.
	Before you get into that, let's just pause for a second.
	With 99% of all of the information products you consume, which are changing, by the way, and internet services you consume, which you think are for free, like Gmail, and they change all the time.
	You are being upgraded for their actual customers.
	That's what's going on here.
	You, the product, are being upgraded for their customers, which is the advertisers.
	No one is giving you the actual information.
	We're giving you real information, and we're giving you community.
	We're giving you a whole bunch of things, and the opportunity to support it.
	All right, now you're going to talk about some cheap-ass Indian, because that's usually what comes after the word Indian.
	Well, there was a funny story that went on this week, which is a diplomat, I guess working out of the New York Council or something, which I always thought diplomatic immunity meant what it says, which is immunity.
	But that's for parking tickets, isn't it?
	I thought it was for murder, too.
	I mean, based on what I've seen.
	Really?
	Well, I mean, I'm going by what I see on television.
	We should try that out.
	So the story is becoming quite funny because this woman apparently was...
	And it's all based on the cheap Indian meme.
	She claimed on her visa form...
	I do have a clip.
	We might as well play it and we can go through it that way.
	This is Incident 1.
	Yeah, India will outright win.
	India's government says it's shocked and appalled at the manner in which its deputy consul general in New York has been, quote, humiliated.
	Devyani Khabragadi arrested last week, charged with making false statements and visa fraud on an application for a housekeeper.
	She pleaded not guilty and was released on $250,000 bail.
	A diplomatic tit-for-tat is underway.
	On Tuesday, concrete security barriers were removed in front of the U.S. Embassy in New Delhi.
	India is responding to what it says was the heavy-handed treatment of one of its diplomats.
	Last week, India's Consul General Devyani Kubrade was arrested over charges of visa fraud.
	She was handcuffed, strip-searched and made to share a jail cell with the general prisoner population.
	India has warned the United States of consequences until it gets an apology.
	Every country has dignity and cannot be dealt with in this manner.
	More steps should be taken against the United States until they give an unconditional apology.
	Kubrati is accused of lying on her domestic worker's visa application, saying she would pay $9.75 an hour when in fact she paid $3.31 below minimum wage.
	While India has not disputed the charges, it says this is not how diplomats or friendly nations ought to be treated.
	Shaken up by the Indian response, the U.S. has said this is an isolated incident.
	Well then Jen, or whatever her name is, Harf.
	Oh, Bandcamp?
	And she's the band camp girl.
	Comes out and she doesn't really say anything as usual.
	Saki or Harf?
	Is it Marie Harf or Jen Saki?
	Okay, Marie Harf.
	Harf.
	Harf.
	Harm.
	Herf.
	Yeah.
	Can I go?
	Isn't she the band camp girl?
	She's the band camp girl, yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Her.
	This limited episode with somebody who was charged with a crime is a separate and isolated incident.
	We know this is a sensitive issue, though, and that's why we're looking at what transpired and talking to the Indians about it.
	Bilateral relations between India and the United States have grown stronger in recent years.
	Many believe India's reactions are a way for the government to flex its muscle and stand up to the U.S. ahead of next year's general election.
	The Friday Briefings.
	I'm sorry that August is over.
	Oh, and this one time?
	At band camp?
	I don't have anything at the top today.
	I stuck a flute in my pussy.
	I just can't help myself.
	You can't.
	That is the grossest thing that we consistently play as an evergreen.
	But it's also...
	But it sounds just like her.
	Yeah, and it's from a number one movie that everyone knows.
	This is great.
	If I ever met her, I'd just be like...
	Yeah.
	Well, anyway, the...
	Indians, I don't understand why they had to strip-search the woman, because it just seemed...
	It's funny!
	It's much funnier.
	Well, it's hilarious, and we all admit to that, and the Indians don't have much of a sense of humor, from what I can tell.
	I mean, I've seen their movies.
	But now, they took all the barriers away, and they stopped the Indian guard around the U.S. Embassy, and they essentially invited the mob to attack the embassy.
	Isn't this kind of just the way it goes?
	She's going to pay three bucks an hour?
	But this is the way it goes.
	This is what we do when we want to pick a fight with somebody.
	The Russians are doing the same with the Netherlands right now.
	We arrested one of their diplomats.
	They arrested one of ours.
	Now they're like, oh, we're not going to take your milk products anymore.
	This is childish.
	It's just going back and forth.
	When it's all really about buying some big gun or something, it's always the same.
	And the Indians, I don't know.
	I don't understand.
	I don't understand the Indians.
	Is India any good to us at all?
	Is India of any use?
	Well, they provide us with most of our semiconductor designers.
	Okay.
	They seem to have a real knack for designing hardware.
	But we could grow those guys here.
	Yeah, to a point.
	These guys are really good at that.
	Yeah.
	That's about it, from what I can tell.
	I could be wrong, but I don't know, because we know Indians admit to ever listening to the show, except a few that have become Americans, and I don't think they count.
	We never have a dashboard again.
	Once every two years, one of them donates, but they're just really, of the opinion, they have this, their basic religious orientation with reincarnation and the rest is that you get what you deserve, and there's no reason to donate anything.
	Right, then they get what they deserve, or they get our scorn.
	Well, they do get our scorn, which is...
	Hey, the FBI... Something really...
	Where did I get this from?
	This must have been...
	It was really funny.
	And, of course, we had our six-week cycle.
	And the FBI, I think they're pissed off.
	Because, you know, this is what they do.
	This is the big, oh, you know, we've entrapped some guy, but they never really tell it like that.
	But we've stopped someone from blowing up the airport.
	We've thwarted this self-radicalized, homegrown terrorist plot.
	He intended to kill lots of people.
	And it got snowed under because of this unfortunate school shooting.
	So the FBI comes out and they send a douchebag, and this guy is a douchebag.
	He's got a really weird, round, funny, sweaty head, to say the following.
	Today the FBI said that this year its agents prevented 150 attacks like the one in Colorado.
	They're so angry.
	What?
	Are you kidding me?
	Wait, wait.
	It gets better because they're actually going to now say that they always try to stop someone from violence.
	Well, the opposite is true because they try to honeypot them into doing it.
	This is the funniest clip.
	The Bureau is working with communities to spot potential threats early, and our Homeland Security correspondent Bob Orr got an inside look at how it works.
	Andre Simmons runs an FBI unit charged with stopping mass shootings before they happen.
	Three times a week, Simmons and the Behavioral Threat Assessment Center confront a case dealing with a potential shooter, identified through tips from churches, police, campus security, and businesses.
	When you study somebody, what is it that jumps off the page at you?
	Is this a real problem?
	Pay attention.
	Pay attention.
	This is what they're looking for.
	Perhaps.
	What we look at, is there a fascination with previous attacks?
	Hmm.
	Oh, I hope no one looks at my Google searches.
	Is there an overwhelming sense of a downward spiral?
	Oh, yeah.
	Woo!
	Often in mass shootings, as in the attacks at the Colorado Movie Theater and the Washington Navy Yard, gunmen reveal warning signs to co-workers, neighbors, or classmates.
	Simmons says when the FBI gets an early heads-up about threatening behavior, analysts work to redirect the subject from violence to mental health treatment.
	This is, okay, so stop here.
	A, this is clearly another notch in the war on crazy.
	Because, you know, you're crazy.
	And two, this is a lie.
	The FBI says, oh, hey, hey, here's a guy who wants to blow something up.
	Let's go egg him on.
	Monitoring or custody.
	The FBI team researches the subject's background and often interviews the person and acquaintances.
	In the past year, the behavioral team has tackled 150 cases.
	Not one resulted in violence.
	Do you believe this, John?
	Do you believe what they're doing?
	It's great.
	I think you thought this would be clip of the day.
	That's what I thought, yeah.
	This isn't about making arrests or locking people up.
	This is about stopping events.
	While prosecution obviously remains, as the FBI, one of our main priorities, we really think prevention is even better.
	Still, the challenge is growing.
	Prevention through entrapment.
	Fire at a Colorado high school is the latest reminder.
	These active shooters are continuing, so we're doing everything we can to unite mental health care resources with law enforcement and make a positive change.
	Yeah, war on crazy mental health care.
	Two things to say about that.
	One, you're not going to hear much more about the Arapahoe high school shooting for two reasons.
	One...
	It was an armed security officer who stopped this.
	You know, before you go on, I was watching one of these shows, and they were going on, and the litany was there.
	It was just, you know, gun violence.
	They played two clips.
	They played the head of the NRA who recommended, he says, you guys got a problem with this?
	We like our guns.
	Put an armed guy in the school, and that'll stop it.
	Yes, exactly.
	And Boyd did.
	Yeah.
	And so they did that.
	Now everyone's going, whoops, wait a minute.
	Let's back off on this because this is actually what the NRA suggested.
	And there's this little ditty.
	Here's what another student had to say about him.
	He was friendly enough.
	Very proud of being a socialist.
	He was very outspoken on his political views.
	To him, it just meant more economic equality.
	Proud to be a socialist.
	Oops, kid.
	The shooter.
	Yeah.
	Proud to be a socialist.
	Oops.
	Oops.
	Yeah, no, I think we should...
	Oops.
	Don't talk...
	Ixnay on the Ocialist, say...
	Okay.
	Somebody's going to get shooed out for this.
	They put it into the public domain.
	I mean, obviously, there's 150 of these events commonly happening, and they could have put any one of them up there, but they did put up the Wichita thing.
	But meanwhile, there's some who let this thing slide into the public consciousness.
	We made a huge mistake.
	Huge mistake.
	And remember we had...
	Well, actually, I'll bring it up after this.
	This is the latest development in the Boston bombing.
	The Boston bombing, of course, where apparently there is videotape of the Sarnoff brothers, one or two, depositing a backpack with said pressure cooker explosive into the wastebasket.
	Oh, is that right, Adam?
	Have you seen that video?
	No, we have not seen the video, nor has the governor of Massachusetts seen the video, although he's reliably informed it exists.
	But why?
	Why haven't we seen this video?
	Well, because it's for your own protection.
	9-11, security, cyber, something.
	But of course, now we know the real issue.
	David, it's great to have you here.
	And according to your report, Tamerlan, who is the older of the two brothers, was hearing voices.
	Could have been seen as schizophrenic, but never received any treatment for that.
	What did you learn about why no treatment for the type of symptoms that he may have been showing?
	Why no treatment?
	Why no treatment?
	Okay.
	So I'm watching Democracy now before you go on.
	I want to play this clip.
	Fewer psych beds.
	Oh, God.
	And they go on and on about this.
	And I have to make a comment after this clip.
	But this is the war on crazy.
	Certainly hope that the Newtown massacre causes people to realize that for years we've actually been going in the wrong direction on mental health.
	The states have been cutting billions of dollars out of mental health We have 90% fewer inpatient psychiatric beds today than we had in the 1950s.
	We have no place to put the crazy people.
	The funny thing about this is, unfortunately, there's people old enough, such as myself, who remember this, the whole scene as it evolved.
	It was, I guess it was, it began probably before I was born, but there was this movement amongst the liberals only to close down these horrible mental facilities because the life there was so miserable and hard on them that they should have community servicing or something else.
	We had to shut down these mental hospitals.
	And there was a bunch of them around the Bay Area.
	There's one up in Napa.
	There's Sonoma, one for the insane.
	There was Ag News down in San Jose.
	There was one here in Austin.
	And they were moaning and groaning about this.
	It was all brought to a head by the movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest in the book.
	And so when Ronald Reagan got into office, he was being hounded by the liberals that they've got to do.
	He basically just shut them all down.
	He said, you guys, this is what you want?
	Fine.
	And so he shut them all down, and then it's been sliding ever since.
	But now, because we can use this as leverage to get people to vote against the Republicans somehow, I don't know how you make that connection, because it was the liberals who wanted these places to shut down and release the crazies into the public.
	It's actually very...
	I have to say this is one of the best turnarounds of concept versus reality I've ever seen.
	In other words, it's like the reality of what's going on is completely misused.
	Yeah.
	Well, I think it's going one step further.
	Mental health and the diagnosis and treatment of mental health is determined by one main system in the United States.
	And you know what this is.
	This is one of my favorites.
	It's the DSM, the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.
	And in the DSM, we have ODD, which we've discussed when it first came out.
	It's now published.
	Oppositional Defiant Disorder.
	Even the best behaved can be difficult and challenging at times, but if your child or teen has a persistent pattern of tantrums, arguing, and angry or disruptive behavior towards you and other authority figures, he or she may have Oppositional Defiant Disorder.
	As a parent, you don't have to go it alone in trying to manage a child with oppositional defiant disorder.
	Doctors, counselors, and child development experts can help.
	Treatment of ODD involves therapy, training to help build positive family interactions, and medications to treat related mental health conditions.
	This is where it's going.
	And then once you're drugged, once you're on the drug, then you're in the system, then they have your information, and then you can't do a lot of things, like drive a car, be around children and other children, be in civil service.
	Can't buy a gun.
	So here's some of the symptoms, just so you know.
	Your child...
	And by the way, it says child now.
	This could also be your neighbor, your brother, your sister, your father, your mother.
	That's just a matter of definition.
	Maybe displaying signs of ODD instead of normal moodiness.
	If the behaviors are persistent...
	If the behaviors last at least six months...
	How about six years on this show?
	...are clearly disruptive to the family and home or school environment...
	The following behaviors are associated with ODD. John, you ready?
	I'm ready.
	Negativity.
	What?
	Defiance.
	Okay.
	Disobedience.
	And hostility directed towards authority figures.
	Well, there you have it.
	And here are some of the behaviors.
	That's our show.
	Yes.
	These behaviors might cause your child to regularly and consistently, so this is how it may surface.
	Have temper tantrums.
	Be argumentative with adults.
	Refuse to comply with adult requests or rules.
	Annoy other people deliberately.
	Oh.
	Blame others for mistakes or misbehavior, act touchy and easily annoyed, feel angered and resentment, be spiteful or vindictive, act aggressively towards peers, have difficulty maintaining friendships, have academic problems, and feel a lack of self-esteem.
	I mean, this is from the manual that determines if you have a mental health issue.
	So, go ahead and laugh and let it go and don't say anything because they're coming for you eventually.
	Coming for everybody.
	You get rid of those personality characteristics from the general population, you've got problems.
	Nobody's left.
	No.
	It pretty much includes most people that think for themselves.
	You know, as you stand up and say, that's bull crap.
	That puts you in that category.
	The ultimate answer is lobotomy.
	Well, there's that.
	Did you see...
	This clip has been going around.
	Barbara Walters.
	What she said about Obama.
	No.
	Oh, this is a great clip.
	Just a little...
	What do you call that thing they serve in between to cleanse your palate?
	Entremont.
	An entremont.
	A little entremont of Barbara Walters about...
	Of course, she did her...
	Hold on a second.
	What is this, people?
	No way.
	Well, he's gone, ladies.
	That's the old Nokia E71 that I have laying around.
	That's the only phone I possess.
	Oh, is that what you're using now?
	Yeah.
	So it doesn't have GPS? It has pretty much nothing.
	It's got a keyboard.
	One, two, one, two, one, two.
	I thought I heard a weird sound.
	Yeah, it has a real keyboard.
	Yeah, so she has her most interesting people of 2013.
	Of course, it was Hillary Clinton.
	Gee, who would have expected that?
	But here's what she said on CNN. I think it was what she said about Obama.
	It was kind of funny.
	Well, you've touched on it to a degree.
	He made so many promises.
	We thought that he was going to be, I shouldn't say this at Christmas time, but the next messiah.
	And the whole Obamacare, or whatever you want to call that, a formidable, affordable.
	She does a double one.
	I've got to play that again.
	She says Obamacare, or a formidable, whatever you want to call it.
	She can't even say affordable.
	I think she's drunk.
	I think she's drunk.
	And then she doesn't even know how many years he has left.
	I think she's gone senile.
	He promises.
	We thought that he was going to be, I shouldn't say this at Christmas time, but the next messiah.
	And the whole Obamacare, or whatever you want to call that, a formidable, affordable health act.
	It just hasn't worked for him, and he's stumbled around on it.
	And people feel very disappointed because they expected more.
	It's very difficult when the expectations for you are very high.
	You're almost better off when they're low, and then they rise and rise.
	His were very high, and they've dropped.
	But, you know, he still has several years to go.
	What does he have, three years more, Pierce?
	And, you know, there will be a lot of changes.
	You're an idiot!
	What does he have, three more years, Pierce?
	Huh.
	The blind leading the blind.
	Brother.
	I know.
	No, that was your entremant.
	Yeah, that was cute.
	I probably have something like that.
	Alright, I'm just holding back and waiting.
	Okay, well if you want to play an entremant for me, play Stonehenge.
	I have a pet peeve.
	Okay, oops, oops.
	Stonehenge tried to get away from me.
	The droids of Salisbury Plain have voiced their displeasure.
	They're comparing a new display of Neolithic remains at Stonehenge to a Victorian peep show.
	One of Europe's oldest and most mysterious man-made attractions getting a 27 million pound makeover that includes a 21st century state-of-the-art visitor center.
	What?
	Can you imagine?
	You know, I went to Stonehenge...
	I'll be real quick.
	I went to Stonehenge as a kid and there was no gate around it.
	That's what I'm going to bitch about.
	Alright, go.
	So I went in 1973, so it was exactly 40 years ago, I went to Stonehenge, and I sat on the stones.
	Yeah.
	And there was nobody there.
	There was like, I was with someone that I was roaming around with, and there was a bunch of cows nearby.
	Yeah.
	And there was nothing.
	There wasn't anything you'd go visit.
	Hey, look at this cool, you know.
	And there was, I think there was a small shop that sold little stone hinges or something.
	And they were closed.
	It was like you walk up there, you can kick the stones or whatever you want.
	So then I guess some hooligans came along and painted the damn things.
	And then so they fenced it off.
	And now they're making it.
	And the last time I went, which was with the kids, the place was packed.
	Yeah.
	There's like 200 people there.
	Yeah, I went.
	My dad took me.
	They ruined it.
	My dad took me in.
	It was probably 78 years.
	He took me on a trip to London, which was not a good trip for a number of reasons.
	Anyway, whoa.
	So then we went to...
	Oops!
	We went to Stonehenge.
	And you're right.
	I think there were a couple of druids walking around.
	Like, who's that?
	Just some weird guys.
	Don't worry about them.
	People are kind of spaced out walking around.
	But you could sit on everything.
	You could lean against it.
	You took the picture.
	Hey, here I am in Stonehenge.
	And then it got roped off.
	And now they have a $23 million pound visitor center?
	Yeah.
	It's like the time when I did the documentary in Thailand.
	And it was supposed to be this rough guide thing.
	You know, all kinds of weird stuff.
	You do, like, drink cobra blood and go up to the Burmese border and the Golden Triangle and, you know, chew on leaves and opium.
	It was all great.
	And then, oh, let's go see the long necks.
	Like, oh, okay.
	And we drive for hours, and, you know, it's like, oh, this is really where I, you know, people, only few people have seen the long necks of Thailand.
	And then there's a big sign with, like, a finger pointing long neck this way.
	Like, what?
	You know, it's like, I was really buying into it.
	And we even made, you know, like, oh, very few Westerners have been.
	And then the minute you get there, they're all like, give me bot, bot, bot, bot.
	That's all they can say.
	Bot, bot, bot.
	They want money.
	So you can take a picture with a long neck.
	The whole thing is one big Disneyland.
	There's not much originality left, is there?
	Speaking of bot, bot, bot!
	I'm going to show myself old by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on your agenda In the morning Didn't we just do a segment a minute ago? - Who?
	Well, you know, we're...
	Well, that's okay.
	It's not going to take very long.
	Exactly.
	Yale Osowski.
	We've got some people to thank.
	Yale Osowski in Vienna.
	Hello, Surf John and Surf Adam.
	As a French-Canadian-American expat in Europe, I'm doing nothing but hitting slaves in the mouth.
	However, it seems to be too many people are focusing on problems in America and not paying attention to the robber barons in Brussels.
	Well, we try.
	Keep it up.
	Long live the value for value model.
	That's interesting.
	It's $133 from Yale, by the way.
	Thank you, Yale.
	Now, before we get to the $100, this is why I wanted to take our time for this.
	We have a Make It Rain, a three-show make-do, which would be for the 111.11 donors who wanted to Make It Rain.
	Now, I want to add, I'll do the bit.
	But I want to add that we have, the names that I have backed up are Kimberly Amber, Chris the Dude, Leo, Angela Merkel, and Hillary Clinton.
	There was none today.
	No.
	And if there's any I miss, we'll bring them up the next time.
	But as far as I know, this is the list.
	We'll be right back.
	Emmys, anyone with a shirt and shoes, pants are optional, but no touching.
	Give a round of applause, though.
	Welcome to the stage, Kimberly.
	This little lady just got back from a tour of duty, and she's looking for IEDs.
	That means no IOUs.
	Give it up for Kimberly.
	They put your hands together for Amber.
	These bombshells look for Santa Claus so she can show him her cookies and milk.
	Amber.
	The latest night at No Agenda Lounge.
	Give some hand-clapping love for Chris the Dude and Leo on the main stage for some man-on-man action.
	Guys, close your eyes.
	Chris and Leo.
	On a stage 25 champagne rooms where Hillary and Angela will pop your corks.
	Dances to half price.
	Lap dances are half price with a bottle of bubbly.
	And don't forget to tip your waitress.
	Bring them on.
	Hillary and Angela, stage four and five.
	Get over there.
	Is that it?
	Great script.
	Good script.
	Very well done.
	Well, you know what's going to happen?
	That was so good that people will want more of it.
	Well, I don't see any evidence of that.
	Oh, wow.
	Your limiter really hit it, though.
	I would hope.
	Okay.
	I think I'm back to normal.
	Yeah, it comes back slowly for some reason.
	Let me unclick this button.
	Don't unclick it now.
	It's fine.
	Don't worry about it.
	It's fine.
	I would not unclick the button.
	Chris Potter, Elmira, Ontario, $100 and no comment.
	Eric Allen in Woodland Hills, Sack of Sevens.
	Thanks.
	Please thank the EA in Woodland Hills.
	And this is birthday.
	We've got a birthday lined up there.
	Christine Zachman, Lost Wages, Nevada, Sack of Sevens.
	Eric Schmidt, not the Eric Schmidt, maybe.
	But this one's in Frankfurt, Germany, Deutschland, 77-77.
	He's been wanting to contribute for a while.
	Thanks for getting on board.
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	69!
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	Before we have Lawrence, Roberto Mendez, Stephen Pelsmockers.
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	It's interesting, you kind of stayed in the cadence of the stripper announcer guy.
	I did.
	Yeah, that works for me.
	Yeah, it moves it along.
	It's a cadence that's a workable cadence.
	I like the Leo and what was that guy on Dan?
	Chris the Dude.
	Chris the Dude guy on guy action.
	Oh boy.
	All right.
	Well...
	I think we can do better.
	I don't know, but I see a lot of value being created here.
	This is the only thing we want you to consider.
	Next show is 576.
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	I guess there's not much there, but there's a six of five, six, and seven.
	There's a lot of interesting palindromes coming up in 2014.
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	And you've got a sickness.
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	I think I'll come back.
	You know what they're going to do?
	It's like penicillin.
	And then it's horrible.
	That's the only thing they can really prescribe, I think, is penicillin.
	What else are you going to do?
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	Those of you who have supported the program with your donations.
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	These are people who do build up to knighthoods, and it does really happen.
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	In fact, we only have one birthday, but I'll still do the jingle.
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	Oh, John, I got this great page from populartechnology.net.
	I created a shortcut.
	Go to iceage.curry.com.
	Iceage.curry.com.
	And then I will play the video that's on that page.
	This is essentially a link from the 70s And it starts off right there with a Time Magazine cover.
	The big freeze!
	Newsweek or Time?
	Time.
	Do you have the page?
	I'm on it now.
	Yeah.
	You see the big Time Magazine there?
	I haven't scrolled down.
	No, it's at the top.
	Why do you have to scroll down?
	It's the top.
	I don't have that.
	It's just that it's a movie.
	Hmm.
	You don't have a whole bunch of links?
	Yeah, there's a bunch of links, and at the top is a video that says, in search of the coming Ice Age.
	Oh, there should be, well, maybe it hasn't loaded on your system or something.
	Above that is the Time Magazine cover.
	But here's a piece of that video.
	They took that down, it looks like.
	Might be.
	Well, no, it loaded for me.
	Oh, there it is.
	Okay, cropped up when I refreshed.
	This is Leonard Nimoy, better known as Mr.
	Spock from Star Trek.
	Doing a voiceover for the coming ice age.
	This is from 1978.
	And you can just replace everything you hear with...
	Well, let's see.
	Al Gore.
	Just think the voice Al Gore.
	And think global warming when they say global cooling.
	This is 1978.
	Not even that long ago.
	In 1977, the worst winter in a century struck the United States.
	The Arctic cold gripped the Midwest for weeks on end.
	Great blizzards paralyzed cities of the Northeast.
	One desperate night in Buffalo, eight people froze to death in maroon corners.
	Pat Bushnell was on the road that night.
	Traffic just absolutely stopped.
	I was afraid of being stuck in the car all night long with the cold and the wind running out of gas.
	And then what?
	I think that if we had to go through a real bad winter, just like we just went through, I think we have to think about moving someplace else.
	Move where?
	The brutal Buffalo winter might become common all over the United States.
	Climate experts believe the next ice age is on its way.
	According to recent evidence, it could come sooner than anyone had expected.
	At weather stations in the far north, temperatures have been dropping for 30 years.
	Sea coasts long free of summer ice are now blocked year-round.
	According to some climatologists, within a lifetime, we might be living in the next ice age.
	Woo!
	It is exactly the same propaganda that's going on today.
	Exactly the same.
	Now, that would have gotten clip of the day.
	Right.
	I can't accept it.
	It is exactly...
	I'm just telling you, it's a good clip.
	You've got three clips today that were all worthy.
	Yeah, but it's...
	Where did that...
	That is this good find on this website.
	Yeah, this page is great.
	It has just tons...
	It's got a million links.
	Yeah, about the Ice Age from 1970 all the way through 1979.
	I mean, it's not one or two links.
	It's like a hundred.
	And look at the publications.
	L.A. Times.
	Is mankind manufacturing a new Ice Age for itself?
	Let's see.
	St.
	Petersburg Times.
	Pollution called Ice Age threat.
	Dirt will bring new Ice Age.
	Ice Age refugee dies underground.
	Pollution might lead to another Ice Age.
	Air pollution may cause Ice Age.
	There's a new Ice Age coming!
	Ice Age begins a new assault in the North.
	This is great.
	Time Magazine.
	Science!
	Another Ice Age?
	Isn't this fantastic?
	This is a great collection.
	Yeah, it's really, really good.
	And this is what you need to hit people in the mouth with.
	Climate change is called ominous.
	New York Times.
	Let's look at that one.
	Let's see if that one still exists.
	Oh, do you have to pay for this?
	If you go to select, yeah, you've got to pay for it.
	Climate change is called ominous.
	Scientists warn predictions must be made precise to avoid catastrophe.
	Changes in the Earth's climate are inevitable, and mankind must learn to predict these variations to avoid potential catastrophe.
	A group of prominent scientists has concluded after a two-year study.
	Oh, I could do that voice.
	Yeah, almost.
	Carl Kaltenborn, or whatever his name was.
	Okay, let me try the Chicago Tribune.
	Let me see if I can do that.
	Oh, you have to buy all these, man.
	The ice age cometh, the system that controls our climate, and you have to buy the rest of the article.
	The end of the world is to be heralded by a summer that is no summer.
	The bitter cold persists, and the sun gives me neither light nor warmth.
	If you tilt your voice to having kind of like sama, you need to like mispronounce things a certain way.
	So it's very, and it has to be stiffer.
	You're not stiff enough.
	Okay, let me see.
	I'm just going to bring up a new one.
	Right around the corner, Ice Age predicted.
	Cambridge, Massachusetts, UPI. A scientist predicts a little ice age could begin in about 135 years.
	Massachusetts Institute of Technology meteorologist Herd C. Willett, in an article in the latest issue of Technology Review, predicts temperatures generally will get lower in the coming years.
	He said this could lead to a period when glaciers begin building up a little ice age.
	How's that?
	It's better.
	I like it.
	You can use it.
	So this is great when you look at all these articles, and maybe you should print these out and take them into school.
	Take him to school, kids.
	Hey, teacher, what is this?
	Time Magazine.
	Are they lying to us?
	Time Magazine, 1977.
	The Big Freeze.
	And the main one that's been floating around that we've had on the show before, the main article, is in Newsweek.
	So everybody was all in on this.
	Yeah.
	And they were all in for, look how long.
	It was all in for like eight years.
	No, ten years.
	From 70 through 79.
	Yeah.
	Well, okay.
	Ten.
	Right.
	What else are they?
	Oh, there's more videos.
	I hadn't even seen this.
	The Weather Machine.
	Yeah, a decade of frightening the public.
	Right to November 14th, 79, as a matter of fact.
	Here's the new ice age almost upon us.
	Here's the BBC's...
	Get ready to freeze.
	Spokane Daily Chronicle, 1979.
	The BBC's 1974 documentary, The Weather Machine.
	Let's listen to this.
	There's the ever-present threat of a big freeze.
	Will a new Ice Age claim our lands and bury our northern cities?
	It's buried Manhattan Island before, when great glaciers half a mile thick filled the valley of New York's Hudson River.
	And the warm periods are much shorter than we believed originally.
	They are something around 10,000 years long.
	And I'm sorry to say that the one we are living in now has just passed its 10,000 years birthday.
	What of course means that the Ice Age is due now anytime.
	Anytime!
	Oh, and a reminder, as of January 1st, because of all this global warming, climate change bullshit, new light bulb bands kick in.
	Your 40 and 60 watt bulbs are going away.
	Convert to LEDs, everybody.
	Or worse, those mercury RF emitting pieces of crap.
	Yeah, that go whoo!
	They make a bunch of racket.
	I have one of those things in the dining room.
	When you turn it on, it sounds like a siren's on.
	Why do you even have that in your house?
	Take it out.
	I like it because I can barely hear it, but everyone else in the group...
	It's DOD or whatever it's called.
	I found this...
	I'm annoying.
	I'm purposely annoying people.
	I found this other outfit called Climate Nexus.
	What is it again?
	Called ClimateNexus.org.
	You should go to ClimateNexus.org.
	And these are the climate change propagandists.
	This is just interesting.
	So this is how they do it.
	What we do.
	We strive to tell the climate story in new, innovative, innovative ways.
	That's how the British say it.
	Innovative ways.
	A few examples of our work.
	Superstorm Sandy.
	The idea.
	This is a pitch, this website.
	Superstorm Sandy approached the Mid-Atlantic on October 26, 2012.
	Polling indicates that making connections to extreme weather helps people to understand the significance of climate change and its associated impacts.
	In line with this research, Climate Nexus identified the storm as a potential messaging focus.
	Yay!
	This should be us!
	We're dumb.
	We could be making a lot more money doing this sort of propaganda bullcrap and just suckering the public into believing anything we want them to believe.
	We are so dumb.
	Than actually exposing this stuff.
	Climate Nexus distributed background information on the hurricane and its relationship to climate change to hundreds of environmental reporters, editorial writers, op-ed page editors, and meteorologists.
	During the storm and its aftermath, we put journalists in contact with our expert partners, Shills, Dr.
	Kerry Emanuel, Dr.
	Kevin Trentberth, Dr.
	Michael Oppenheimer, Dr.
	Jay Marshall-Shepard, Dr.
	Anthony Leiserwitz, Dr.
	Jennifer Francis, and Jeff Masters.
	Our efforts helped secure dozens of interviews for these experts on the storm and climate change, which generated hundreds of stories in the mainstream media.
	This is how it works.
	No, this is exactly how it works, and our goal is to find the sources that are pulling this stuff.
	And to replicate them and get rich.
	Well, yeah, well, ideally.
	Wow, the PDF they have, Superstorm.
	This is great.
	Oh my God, these guys are good.
	Press coverage includes AP, Bloomberg, Times, Los Angeles Times, Washington Post.
	You can change that moniker from press coverage to suckers.
	Yeah, really.
	Suckers include the AP, Bloomberg, New York Times, Los Angeles Times, Washington Post, The Guardian, of course, The Boston Globe, Time, The Atlantic Journal, Constitution, Politico, Hardball with Chris Matthews, CNN, NPR, and the NBC and PBS News.
	There's the mainstream media in a nutshell.
	And now on Reddit Science Forum...
	If you are a climate change skeptic, your comments will be banned from the Reddit.
	Well, your comments, if you're a climate change skeptic, are banned from Wikipedia.
	Yeah, there you go.
	That's a well-known problem.
	And we've been had.
	Good catch.
	This is a good one.
	We've been had.
	A producer had to point it out to me.
	I can't believe how dumb I am in this case.
	This Chinese moon landing?
	So-called moon landing?
	Alleged moon landing?
	It's so obvious it's fake.
	They handed it to us on a silver platter and I didn't see it.
	Here is the headline.
	Jade Rabbit Rover basks in Lunar Bay of Rainbows.
	Really?
	The Jade Rabbit is a well-known sex toy that has been around for decades.
	And Bay of Rainbows, if that's not a metaphor for vagina, then I don't know what is.
	These guys are laughing at us.
	I'm surprised they didn't use Happy Valley.
	It may come.
	I don't know.
	I can't believe it.
	Bunk it up.
	It's all rough.
	Jade Rabbit basks in Lunar Bay of Rainbows.
	Are you kidding me, Chiners?
	I give him props for that, though.
	It went by.
	I didn't even see it at first.
	Now, actually, Paul Piedemann turned me on to that.
	Do you remember talking about China?
	The incident, supposedly, when one of our destroyers was damn near rammed, that piece of crap that Ukrainian aircraft carrier that the Chinese built out?
	Yeah, yeah.
	This was a...
	They had to change direction to a...
	Oh, move!
	Quick!
	So here's what actually really happened, which has never been reported here.
	Of course not.
	And this...
	I agree with this report, because this report came from the NHK, Japanese news service, and they're unlikely...
	To be on the side of the Chinese in any dispute.
	No.
	But here's the way they tell what happened.
	China has rebutted U.S. criticism concerning a near-miss between their naval vessels earlier this month in the South China Sea.
	U.S. Pacific Fleet officials said last week that the Aegis-equipped cruiser USS Calpens narrowly avoided a collision with the Chinese naval vessel.
	The incident occurred on December 5th in international waters.
	U.S. officials said the Chinese vessel maneuvered too close to the Aegis cruiser and it failed to act in line with international norms, which resulted in the near miss.
	China's defense ministry issued a statement on Wednesday saying its vessel handled the encounter in strict accordance with protocol.
	It said the two defense departments were kept informed of the situation and carried out effective communications.
	The ministry added that both sides are willing to maintain close cooperation and make efforts to ensure regional peace and stability.
	U.S. media reported that China's Liaoning aircraft carrier had been conducting training exercises and the Aegis cruiser had been gathering intelligence.
	The report said that although the Chinese side ordered the USS Kalpans to stop, the cruiser kept moving because it was in international waters.
	Then the Chinese vessel blocked its course.
	That sounds about right.
	Yeah.
	We're just harassing them.
	Yeah.
	Spying on their deal.
	Yeah.
	Well, we're in the Chinese sea anyway.
	I'm sorry.
	We're saving people in the Philippines.
	We're the USS George Washington, biggest aircraft carrier in the universe.
	Yeah, we're saving people here.
	A couple of sorties a day, saving people.
	And then, of course, we report it, misreport the whole thing.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I think it'd be fine if we honestly say, yeah, we're out there harassing the Chiners.
	We came by him, we gave up, we shot by him, and that crappy old aircraft carrier.
	But no, the way they have it, if you listen to some of these reports, oh, the Chinese are building up their munitions.
	They're going to have a bunch of these aircraft carriers.
	This aircraft carrier is a piece of crap.
	The funny thing is, the way you just said that, which sounded very Top Gun-ish, which, of course, is our culture of our movies and everything, The American people, I think we're ready for that kind of talk.
	We're okay with it.
	You don't have to lie.
	I mean, seriously, if the news just came on and then you had Dempsey, well, Dempsey's not the right guy, but you need someone with a little more stance to go, yeah, we're harassing them damn chinks.
	Hey!
	Yeah.
	You know why?
	Because we're protecting these islands here.
	That's important to us and our allies here.
	Nobody is...
	We've got the Japs over here.
	I think the idealism that you expressed there is to an extreme, including the epithet.
	It's never going to happen in this country because of the old women that really are behind it.
	Oh, you can't say that.
	Oh, if you said something bad.
	Oh, stop your...
	Let's go after the advertisers, which they're doing on a number of shows now.
	Oh, wait, stop.
	I have another example of this cultural Marxism.
	By the way, you missed me saying jabs and nips.
	I did.
	Yeah, and here's another one we can't do.
	Jennifer Lawrence, she's an actress.
	People who judge other women, especially on the red carpet, you're very sensitive to that.
	Why?
	Because why is humiliating people funny?
	And I get it, and I do it too.
	We all do it.
	Then why is it funny?
	Because she's a dick.
	I think when it comes to the media...
	The media needs to take responsibility for the effect that it has on our younger generation, on these girls that are watching these television shows and picking up how to talk and how to be cool and how to be...
	So then all of a sudden being funny is making fun of the girl that's wearing an ugly dress or making fun of the girl that's...
	And the word fat, I just think it should be illegal to call somebody fat on TV. I mean, if we're regulating cigarettes and sex and cuss words because of the effect it has on our younger generation, why aren't we regulating things like calling people fat?
	How about smelly bitches, Jennifer Lawrence?
	Why aren't we regulating things like calling people fat?
	That's the exact quote.
	Yeah, that's what it is.
	Why aren't we regulating things like calling people fat?
	By the way, it should be such as, but that's another story.
	That doesn't matter.
	We need to regulate this.
	Wow.
	And, of course, Barbara Walters.
	How do you get like this?
	This is, what do you mean, how do you get like this?
	She's a part of the establishment.
	That's how you get like this.
	This is what the establishment talks like.
	This is how the elites, and Bill Gates and Melinda Gates, they're in on this too.
	They walk around talking this, oh, R word, S word, T word, C word, V word.
	This is what happens.
	And then we lose everything.
	We lose language.
	We lose meaning.
	We lose identity.
	We lose freedom of speech.
	We lose the opportunity to talk freely as human beings.
	Definitely lose freedom of speech.
	That's what this is all about.
	Yeah.
	What happened to, you can say, I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend your right to say it to the death.
	No, everyone's like, screw that.
	You shouldn't say that.
	That's what it's evolved to.
	You shouldn't say that.
	It's not nice and it's hurting someone's feelings.
	You can't say that.
	You can't say that.
	Okay.
	How about this then?
	This is actually...
	I thought this would get clip of the day.
	We do know as we look at the larger picture here, Sean, that LGBT rights is just one of the points of friction between...
	This is another F Russia about Sochi games and, you know...
	Yeah, I got a couple clips to follow.
	Between our country and Russia right now, as we look at the litany of other things right now, it's Russia's support for Syria, their relationship with Iran, current crisis in the Ukraine, also the protection of asylum that was granted to NSA leaker Edward Snowden there in Russia.
	So how do you think that the president can balance all the delicate foreign policy issues but still take a decisive stand on human rights?
	Because so many people consider President Obama to be the first gay president.
	I don't think he meant to say that.
	I don't know if that's...
	I think I may be wrong, because don't forget he was on the cover of Newsweek as the first gay president.
	Yeah.
	And it's come up in other venues that he's gay.
	Well, we know.
	We know them.
	We know the facts.
	Fact.
	But I don't know.
	It depends on what outlet that was.
	I know there's a lot of stuff going on.
	In fact, if you want to see the classic, I mean, it's all anti-Russian, anti-Putin stuff.
	And apparently, I guess, you know, there's some sort of a...
	Well, play the clip, USA Sends Gays to the Olympics.
	Hey, where's my memo?
	Barack Obama.
	Maybe even a slap in the face for the Russian delegation.
	An openly gay athlete, tennis legend Billie Jean King, will be part of the U.S. delegation to the opening ceremony in Russia.
	On February the 7th, there will be no U.S. President, there will be no U.S. First Lady, no Vice President, and not a single member of the Cabinet here in Washington.
	Instead, There will be a gay rights activist.
	And there is this statement from the White House to back things up.
	The Obama administration says that its delegation, quote, represents the diversity that is the United States.
	We haven't even spoken about the closing ceremony yet.
	That will also have as part of its delegation an openly gay American athlete.
	That will be Caitlin Cahow.
	She is a two-time Olympic medalist in ice hockey.
	A clear snub and a protest almost on behalf of the Obama administration.
	Russian President Vladimir Putin will not be happy.
	Hold on a second.
	Okay.
	So besides the fact that Pakistan actually has outlawed gay sex constitutionally and everything's all good with them.
	In fact, they're still letting us drone their terrorists and there's not a word said about that.
	We are now going to continue this bullcrap meme that Russia has some anti-gay stance, which is categorically not true.
	And, in fact, Russian laws are much more LGBTQLMNOP friendly than United States laws in general.
	But then we're sending Billie Jean King as our gay?
	Yeah.
	Send someone hot!
	This is dumb!
	Who cares?
	When is the last time she was on a tennis court?
	When is the last time she was on a woman?
	This is dumb!
	Let me look at this Caitlyn.
	Is she hot?
	This Caitlyn...
	By the way, I listen to this and it's like, oh, they did this one other time.
	I remember years ago they had the Commonwealth Games.
	I got all dizzy from that outburst.
	I'm sorry.
	Well, that's because you're ill.
	I'm ill, yeah.
	It was a good outburst, though.
	I enjoyed it.
	So we've done this before in the past, but why doesn't, you know, the people that have to crack down on this is not the Russians.
	They should just, who cares?
	We just get whatever money we get.
	Where's the Olympic Committee?
	They're the ones that, these guys run the world.
	They should be coming over and saying, hey, hey.
	You're never going to get another Olympics in your country if you keep this bullshit up.
	How could they even choose this country?
	Because it's not true.
	They love it.
	It's all about the money for them.
	This is fantastic.
	It's a promotion.
	Everyone will watch.
	Well, yeah, they'll watch that, but I'm saying if they don't...
	Well, that's true.
	But come on.
	If we're going to send a lesbian to Russia, let's send a good one.
	Geez, Louise, why does it have to be Billie Jean King?
	It's like Elton John with a bra.
	I mean, come on!
	I don't know where that came from.
	Please vote for us.
	That's an image I just made.
	Oh, man.
	So they're going after the RT is finally getting out of its shell and they're just trying to blast the U.S. every way they can.
	So let's look at this clip, which is the anti-American Middle East pitch on Russia today, which I just think was off the wall.
	What do you make of how the U.S.'s are Given the conflicting interests here, for example, in Syria, you have the Assad government, which has been friendly to the Christian communities, but the U.S. is opposed to the Assad government, and instead favors the rebels, which we're now seeing factions of the rebels not being friendly to Christians.
	Can the U.S. even play a role in mitigating this problem?
	Nobody understands what the U.S. game plan at this time in the Middle East.
	The U.S., for the first time in a very long time, Huh.
	So they're going, believe me, story after story, all they're doing is blasting our foreign policy and blasting the U.S. on RT with various anchors, and they're all in on this.
	It's actually quite entertaining, I have to say.
	I think Putin changed something.
	I think he did away with RIA. He closed down the RIA news organization and has bolstered RT. I read about some change, so that makes sense if we're seeing an increase in anti-American sentiment from them.
	Yeah, and a lot of pro-Syrian sentiment.
	Yeah.
	Including this.
	I've got a couple of clips around the Syria thing.
	Play great Assad propaganda.
	Okay.
	Killed or used as human shields.
	The things being done in Adra are unthinkable.
	They're slaughtering children and throwing them out of windows, and no one's doing anything about it.
	Yes, yes.
	Those are the rebels, by the way.
	That's the rebels.
	Yeah, of course.
	It's completely believable.
	They're throwing children out of windows and nobody is doing anything about it.
	Play Assad Part 2.
	Oh, this is getting good.
	Very nice.
	Syrian authorities say they have evidence confirming that massacres have taken place in Adra, Sadat, Latakia, and many other areas, which remain under the control of the armed opposition.
	The situation in Syria has now deteriorated to the point that international norms of combat are no longer being observed.
	Of course, they're throwing kids out windows.
	Now, these are the rebels who were throwing the kids out of the windows.
	Yeah, yeah, obviously.
	And then we'll go to part three and we'll wrap it up.
	Adra is an industrial town with a lot of its residents working both in the private sector and for government agencies.
	Horrifying crimes have been committed in this town.
	Houses were set on fire with people trapped inside.
	The Syrian army, which is positioned just outside the town, continues to carry out surgical strikes as part of their effort to liberate Adra.
	Which is now the only hope of the families waiting for news of their loved ones inside the town.
	You know how...
	Well, before you say that, I just wanted...
	That thing you just heard, that thing there is so amateurish.
	Surgical strikes.
	Yeah, it's my favorite word.
	The Russians suck at this.
	Well, yeah.
	Yeah, they suck at this.
	They need help.
	Surgical strikes.
	I heard it.
	I was thinking that, you know, how my mom would say, like, you know, if you don't clean up your room, I'm going to send you to Africa where you don't have a room.
	You have no food.
	So now parents...
	That's one step about sending the food to starving Chinese.
	Right.
	So now you can just say, you know, if you don't behave yourself, Adam Clark Curry, I'm sending you to Syria where they throw children like you out the window.
	Yeah, they throw you out the window.
	Bam.
	No apparent reason.
	No, of course not.
	Well, this is not very good.
	I have a couple of callbacks to the earlier part of the show.
	Oh, okay.
	One of them, which is not...
	The callback is the Saab wins the jet deal.
	Listen to this little piece of propaganda.
	I think this was on Van Katz, so it wasn't Russian propaganda.
	But I think it's very telling.
	And if anyone should be at the table with the laughing Obama and Biden, it should have been the CEO of Boeing.
	Now, Brazil has managed to put several noses out of joint in both France and the United States in choosing who to buy new fighter planes from.
	Yeah, a simple deal that's caused a lot of diplomatic tussle, I suppose, after a decade of on-and-off negotiations.
	It was Sweden's Saab which won the $4.5 billion contract to supply fighter jets to Brazil.
	Now the deal will see Sao Paulo supplied with 36 new jets by 2020.
	Saab won out over competition from France's Desso and also Boeing, an American company.
	Now one Brazilian government source said that it was the NSA spying scandal that cost the American firm its chance at winning that contract.
	Saab, certainly a surprise choice.
	Interesting.
	You know, Snowden wrote an open...
	Well, I'm sorry.
	Grant Greenwald wrote an open letter on behalf of Edward Snowden because it's Greenwald's writing.
	You can tell.
	Actually, there's analytic tools that you could run and you could probably find it was him.
	Do we have those tools handy?
	Actually, I have a couple of them, but they're buried somewhere in the office.
	I'll never find them.
	Don't count on it.
	You could have just said no.
	Yeah, no.
	Where he is now vying for asylum in Brazil, and everything starts to come into vision now, you know what I mean?
	Well, actually, the unreported Snowden suggested deal is the clip about exactly what you said.
	Okay.
	Wow, you've come prepared, white man.
	And as NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden offers to help Brazil dig deeper into NSA activities, he said he could do so in exchange for political asylum.
	Snowden's leaks have provoked outrage about U.S. mass surveillance worldwide.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	No, it's all coming into view now.
	But what was interesting about this letter...
	Hold on a second.
	And the reason...
	I don't need any tools.
	Hold on, I have a letter here.
	Open letter to the people of Brazil.
	Let me just open this up in the web browser.
	There was something very annoying in here that caught my eye, and as a no-agenda producer, everyone else would go, oh, brother.
	So it says, open letter to the people of Brazil, Edward Snowden, six months ago, I stepped out from the shadows, la-di-la-di-la-di-la.
	And then we have...
	I have expressed my willingness to assist wherever appropriate and lawful, but unfortunately the United States government has worked very hard to limit my ability to do so, going so far as to force down the presidential plane of Evo Morales to prevent me from traveling to Latin going so far as to force down the presidential plane of That's a lie.
	See ya.
	Thank you.
	Well, it's not only a lie, but he wasn't on that plane.
	No.
	So it's a double, kind of a lie in different dimensions.
	The plane was not forced down.
	We have the air traffic control audio.
	We've played it several times.
	They had their own lie.
	The flight crew had their own lie that they wanted to land because something was wrong with their gauges.
	They asked to land.
	No one was forced down.
	No matter how you put it, going so far as to force down the presidential plane.
	That is a lie.
	And that tells me that Glenn Green wrote it.
	He writes this stuff.
	This guy is...
	Okay.
	Hey, I need to remind you.
	We were going to talk about...
	There's something related to that.
	Come on.
	Oh, Bezos, Washington Post.
	Oh, yeah.
	Bezos and the Washington Post.
	Well, I got the two clips that sets it up and we can talk about it.
	Yeah.
	The first one would be...
	Bezos, Washington Post.
	No, no, no.
	It would be Bezos.
	Yeah, the Bezos, Washington Post, and CIA story.
	Yeah, that's the one.
	Moving on, the Washington Post is dealing with conflict of interest questions.
	That newspaper was recently acquired by Jeff Bezos, the founder and CEO of Amazon.
	And as CEO of Amazon, Bezos recently signed a $600 million contract with the CIA to provide cloud computing infrastructure.
	The $600 million that Bezos is getting from the CIA eclipses the $250 million he paid to buy the Washington Post newspaper.
	And there are questions over whether or not this deal could affect the Washington Post reporting on CIA matters.
	Here's Bezos responding on 60 Minutes.
	Does that present any conflict for you, the fact that you provide the cloud that the CIA uses for its data?
	I don't think so.
	We're building what's called a private cloud for them, Charlie, because they don't want to be on the public cloud.
	But here's what former Washington Post reporter John Hanrahan told the Huffington Post.
	Quote...
	One thing is certain, Post reporters and editors are aware that Bezos, as majority owner of Amazon, has a financial stake in maintaining good relations with the CIA. And this sends a clear message to even the hardest-nosed journalist that making the CIA look bad might not be a good career move.
	Right.
	Is it Bezos or Bezos?
	Oh, who cares?
	Bezos.
	Play the professor on the CIA and Bezos an Amazon story.
	This, by the way, is all on Russia Today to, you know, again, go after us.
	I mean, I would hate to be a Washington Post reporter on that beat.
	I'd hate to be a Washington Post reporter on a few other beats that Bezos, you know, is involved in.
	But yeah, it has a chilling effect.
	Everyone there knows at the Washington Post that Amazon already played a role, it wasn't a very kosher one, in kicking WikiLeaks off of its web hosting, which really hurt WikiLeaks during the height of a controversy a while back.
	And so the relationship of Amazon and Bezos to an agency like the CIA is very relevant.
	And remember, an Amazon spokesman last month was saying, we look forward to a successful relationship with the CIA. Yeah, of course.
	That's what I'd say.
	Yeah, that's what I'd say, too, with that kind of money.
	It's funny not a lot of people talk about that actual point that Amazon EC2, the Amazon Web Services kicked WikiLeaks off.
	I'd forgotten about that, actually.
	People only talk about the PayPal stuff.
	But yeah, Amazon kicked them off their infrastructure.
	I remember that.
	Yeah.
	Which is why it's so great that we're using BitTorrent Sync.
	Because you know what?
	Even if someone shut down...
	If they took away my computers and cut off my cable, all I'd have to do is give the one number...
	Which I've memorized.
	That one key to anyone else, anyone in the world, and then they could automatically become the main seed for the no agenda show propagation.
	How cool is that?
	Back to this Washington Post story.
	Does anybody think that the Washington Post has not long since been compromised?
	Yeah, that's...
	It's funny because no one seems to understand anymore that because internet.
	It's just done.
	The Washington Post, for the day they took their first advertisement, was compromise.
	Hello?
	Yes, of course it's compromise.
	And no one cares about the Washington Post other than the people in Washington.
	So the whole thing is all of this.
	All of this stuff is just whatever you can move, finagle, and get something, get some heat, and get the other suckers to flow along with it and get everyone talking about it.
	Then you've got your moment.
	Then you can push something through when you're done.
	And we're on to the next thing.
	Yeah.
	Of course they're compromised.
	And what, like Carlos Slim is not compromising the New York Times to write about telecommunications?
	Of course.
	Of course.
	So this is a non-story.
	Who cares what Bezos does at the Washington Post?
	Well, no.
	What we're seeing here is it's kind of like your Beanie Babies.
	This is when the journalists are starting to eat each other.
	Now they're all yelling at each other, you see, because essentially the Washington Post has been saved.
	Most of these things are money-losing operations.
	It's been saved for the foreseeable future.
	Everyone's happy.
	They got a job.
	I think there's journalist unions.
	They have minimum wage contracts.
	Called the Guild.
	The Guild, thank you.
	They've got pensions.
	And this is a big deal.
	People care about themselves first and foremost.
	And other journalists are sick of it.
	They're all...
	You compromise!
	This is going to go back and forth, and then meanwhile the thieves are laughing, stealing our money, and then tiptoeing away into the sunset.
	I have a third part to this that says WAPO Part 2.
	I don't remember what it was, but it was a perfect lead into the donation segment.
	Well, the clip is longer than the donation segment.
	It's only 207.
	The Washington Post isn't the only newspaper that's seeing its reputation in question.
	In fact, Americans are losing confidence in all newspapers.
	As a Gallup poll found back in June, only 23% of Americans, almost a new historic low, have confidence in newspapers.
	Yes.
	According to whose poll?
	A newspaper poll?
	No, 23% is a low number.
	Newspaper polls would jack it up.
	Well, there you go.
	23%, in other words, less than one in four persons have any confidence in major media.
	I mean...
	Gee, if that's not a lead-in to helping people support us a little more, I don't know what is.
	Well, yes.
	Absolutely true.
	And we have more time.
	We focus on less topics, perhaps, because, you know, I don't know, we don't have to do the Lindsay Lohan story or the Kim Kardashian story.
	We can if we want.
	We don't have to do what's playing on the TV. Not for ratings.
	You know, I went through your 308-page document.
	No one even gave you the names.
	They all...
	Even Glenn Greenwald, rah, don't rah.
	He said, nah, just, you know, White House shills.
	He didn't even give you the name.
	It's interesting to know who those names are.
	And then you immediately understand the insight.
	This is the kind of analysis that anyone could give you, but not with the model that they're using.
	They have to be on the high-paced, short, hit the news at the top of the hour.
	We've got to cut it off for the commercial break.
	That's why I think...
	That's why we've been doing it for more than six years.
	And oh, by the way, we make it look easy.
	So consider what goes into it.
	Hey, please do a show anytime.
	Give it a shot.
	We've had a few people try.
	Yeah, go look at the show notes.
	You have to have a very tolerant family.
	Since I'm sitting there watching the News Hour and C-SPAN and whatever else there is, and I'm getting crazy clips.
	You know, they want to watch something.
	Actually, they've all given up.
	Now they're all playing video games.
	They all hole up in their own...
	You have to have a tolerant family to do this.
	Yes.
	Especially if you're just studying all the time.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it never really stops.
	You're just always analyzing and always looking for...
	Unfortunately, always looking for the angle, which sometimes there is just no angle.
	And I think family members get tired of you always looking for the angle.
	And it's just, can't you just shut up and enjoy it for once?
	That's what I get sometimes.
	I haven't gotten that.
	Well, no, that's from my daughter.
	No, it's understandable.
	So please support us, dvorak.org slash na.
	That is where you can...
	It doesn't matter what you support us with.
	All the bits and bobs help.
	I'm always astounded by people who say they can't donate, can't afford.
	I'm like, five dollars, really?
	Really?
	Five dollars?
	You couldn't find that?
	Okay.
	You know what's nonsense?
	When we have kids, like the worst, the first check a kid wrote, he wrote to us.
	There's a lot of students.
	There's, you know, starving artists.
	They don't, they could come up with it.
	There's no excuse.
	I mean, it's always just, the excuse is because you don't want to support us.
	That's what it is.
	You just want to have a private conversation on email.
	Let me argue with Adam for a little while.
	That's fun.
	He'll do that for free.
	But this is a moment to stop and just reflect what has happened to us.
	We are in a fundamental, monumental change in the world, and we're glossing over it because Facebook, Twitter, Google, etc., YouTube, Spotify, iTunes, iPods, iPhones, what is capable, what you are a part of listening to this podcast.
	That is the true...
	Revolution that is taking place.
	Because while everyone is fighting for position...
	Remember, newspaper ads, they had the classifieds.
	That's why newspapers ran out of money.
	Because the classifieds went to Craigslist and to Angie's List and all these other places.
	And even though they were warned, that was their moneymaker, was the classified ads.
	And they had no way to make money without being completely compromised because all the advertisers...
	Go look at CNET. You know, you look at CNET, what are they advertising?
	Technology, electronics, gadgets, phones.
	These people are compromised.
	There's no two ways about it.
	They say they're not, but they are.
	We are not broadcasting this on YouTube.
	We're not on Facebook.
	We're not on the Twitter network.
	We're not owned by anybody.
	We're run by you.
	You help us distribute the program with these brand new protocols that are disrupting life as we know it.
	The music business is dead, over and done with.
	The movie business, they're dead.
	They have to figure it all out all over again.
	And it's going to take another 10 years of this struggling and everyone yelling and fighting and legislation and eating each other up.
	Meanwhile, we are just kind of eking through the window of opportunity.
	And as long as we can keep the support going, I think we can keep the program and the analysis going.
	And that is truly something just mind-blowing that is happening in your lifetime.
	And you're a part of it.
	That was good.
	Yeah, thank you.
	That was a ten-pointer.
	Oh.
	I'll give you a bell for that.
	From the three-pointer line.
	But I really feel that way.
	Oh, and by the way, this is why the people at An Hour of Code aren't teaching Linux.
	They aren't teaching PHP. No, they're teaching all the commercial crap at Code.org.
	Thank you for the number of...
	Producers who pointed that out to me.
	They don't want you to really realize that the network is there, the protocols are there, the software is there.
	You can do it.
	Alright, I think I'll go collapse now.
	Yes, it's time for you to get some rest, my friend.
	We need you for the Sunday show coming up.
	The big show!
	There'll be some cool stuff over, you know, there's always some cool stuff at the end of the week.
	They like to throw some stuff into the pot so it gets forgotten by Monday.
	Yeah, especially with Christmas coming up.
	Christmas is coming up, so everyone's going to be shopping.
	Someone will be shopping somewhere.
	Someone's shopping at all times.
	It's always in the morning.
	All right, everybody, coming to you from FEMA Region 6 here in Austin, Texas at the Travis Heights Hideout.
	In the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from somewhere, one of the FEMA regions, nine, I believe, also known as Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll be back on Sunday right here on No Agenda.
	Don't laugh.

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