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	We're both crisscrossing Manhattan between the U.N. and the Global Clinton Initiative, but I don't think we were ever in the same place at the same time until the end of the day.
	That's often how it is during U.N. week.
	That sounds like a horrible life.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, December 5th, 2013.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 571.
	This is No Agenda.
	Celebrating Scent and the Black Peets from FEMA Region 6 here in Travis Heights, high and out in Austin, Texas.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, plain and simple, FEMA Region 9, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Craig Vaughn and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	That's right.
	December 5th.
	Tonight, the good Sint comes with his black pizza in the Netherlands and Gitmo Lowlands and brings all the children presents and puts them in their wooden shoes.
	In their what?
	In their wooden shoes.
	You have to put your shoes outside, you see.
	When's the last time a Dutchman wore a wooden shoe?
	Oh, the Dutch farmers still wear them all the time.
	So the cows don't step.
	If the cow steps on your feet, then it doesn't hurt.
	Why don't you just get like industrial boots, you know, the kinds that we have that are steel toes.
	Well, the tourists don't like looking at that.
	Are you kidding me?
	Be realistic for a minute here.
	So, start off with a good start.
	Bratton has been rehired as chief of police in New York.
	Can you believe that?
	And I care why?
	You don't remember this guy?
	He was the tough guy who cracked down on crime.
	He's the one who changed the whole New York landscape.
	He's the guy that Giuliani brought in.
	He's the guy who made the difference.
	He's the guy that was hired to clean up Los Angeles.
	Yeah, this is the guy that took the squeegee guys and dumped them in the East River.
	We still don't know where the squeegee guys went in Manhattan.
	They're all dead.
	Uh, okay.
	Apparently the stop and frisk policy...
	Is back on?
	Well, it's not quite back on, but it's kind of back on because apparently Brat knows how to do it with respect.
	Could you please come over here?
	So I can frisk you illegally.
	So this super liberal lefty, supposedly, you know, these guys that get in there and they, uh...
	Instead of being liberal at all, they're actually more fascistic than the guys that came in earlier.
	And I'll bring to bear the point from this clip, which is Obama the mean bastard.
	I was wondering where you were taking this.
	Okay.
	Has President Obama continued a recent tradition of granting a presidential pardon to the holiday bird just ahead of Thanksgiving?
	Critics pointed out he's shown less mercy towards prisoners deserving clemency.
	During his presidency, Obama has pardoned 10 turkeys, while he's pardoned or commuted the sentences of only 39 people, the fewest pardons of any modern president.
	The turkeys, caramel, and popcorn were granted reprieve at a ceremony at the White House on Wednesday.
	Now, before these turkeys get away, with the power vested in me, I want to grant popcorn a full reprieve.
	Come on.
	I want a popcorn.
	You have a cold for free from cranberry sauce and stuffing.
	We wish you well.
	And we're going to get a powerful break as well.
	President Obama has pardoned two birds each Thanksgiving for the past five years.
	In both 2009 and 2012, he pardoned more turkeys than people.
	Overall, Obama has granted clemency to just 39 people at the same point in his presidency.
	Ronald Reagan had pardoned 313 people.
	Harry Truman pardoned 1,537 people.
	According to an analysis last year by ProPublica, which studied applications for pardons processed by the Justice Department, Obama's granted clemency to just 2% of applicants.
	To talk more about this, we're joined by Anthony Papa, artist, writer, noted advocate against the war on drugs.
	He served 12 years in prison for a first-time nonviolent drug offense.
	He was freed only after being granted executive clemency by then New York Governor George Pataki.
	All right, so what are you saying with this?
	The guy's a mean bastard.
	And here's the other thing.
	What is it?
	How come nobody's called him out on this?
	He is mocking the Catholic Church when he pardons the turkey.
	Why is that?
	He does the sign of the cross in front of the bird as though he was the Pope.
	Well, you know, it's funny because I didn't watch any of that or even read any articles because this is a stupid thing.
	And by the way, is this a leftover clip you had?
	This, like, Thanksgiving leftovers you're now serving up?
	Yeah.
	Well...
	Yeah, it's a clip that I didn't get for the last show, which was right after Thanksgiving, but it's still the pardon thing doesn't change.
	He's still not pardoning anybody.
	He's a big liberal about all these drug offenses shouldn't be criminalized.
	There's still people all over the country that are in jail for years because they had a joint in their pockets.
	Wow, man.
	What side of the bed did you get up on?
	I'm just telling you.
	I got out of the...
	I looked at the spreadsheet side of the bed.
	Oh, that side, yeah.
	That side of the bed.
	Not good.
	Let me go back for a second to it being the 5th of December.
	I can't quite really transition from where you are now, but I'd like to go back for a second.
	The big Black Pete conversation that was ongoing for weeks started by some consultant who happened to have...
	Some woman?
	Yeah, some grumpy woman.
	Some grumpy woman who happened to have United Nations letterhead stationary laying around.
	Right, that woman.
	So in the Netherlands, of course, this is over.
	No one gives a shit anymore.
	It's done.
	The conversation...
	Maybe in the next ten years or so, we might change.
	You'll have a Rainbow Pete or whatever.
	What happens on the 5th?
	On the 5th, I think it's...
	I don't know if it's...
	I think it's the night of the 4th, actually.
	So it would have been last night.
	Pete flies around...
	Sint flies around with his white horse.
	And he's on the horse, because he can hop on the rooftops, but it's the Black Pete who then go down the chimneys, and they put presents into the kids' wooden shoes.
	Are they black because they've got soot all over them?
	Look, I really don't want to go into the whole Black Pete conversation again, but no, they're just black.
	And it's been going that way for 400 years.
	Is it because they're black that they put them down the chimney because who's going to notice the soot?
	Yes!
	That sounds right.
	But this has gone on for a long time.
	This is terrible.
	Witness a member of parliament in Nova Scotia, Joachim Stroink.
	Joachim was born in Holland.
	And so he was raised, at least for a couple of years, with this tradition.
	And of course, as a kid, you believe in it completely.
	It's like Sandy Claus.
	So recently he took a picture when I guess he was visiting a family in the Netherlands.
	Like at the mall you take a picture with Santa.
	And he took a picture of him and the Black Peets.
	And Nova Scotia freaked out!
	Like, oh, you racist!
	We can't believe you did this!
	And he had to apologize.
	He was in Canada?
	Yes, and he had to apologize.
	And here's, live on TV, he's crying.
	He's crying.
	They got him.
	All right.
	I do acknowledge that that whole blackface culture has, there is no place for that in Nova Scotia, nor in our culture.
	This is just the beginning.
	He starts to cry later.
	As well.
	And the intent behind that, there was no malicious intent whatsoever.
	This is a heritage, a tradition, a Dutch tradition that I grew up with and never, ever in my deepest heart ever thought that this would be portrayed in this manner.
	Now looking back at it, I guess I can see how the blackface prospect is unacceptable.
	He's about to turn on his culture.
	Today's culture.
	Watch him go.
	This is how politicians truly are.
	Turn on his culture or turn on his culture.
	He's going to turn against his own culture.
	Today's society, and I think we're going to work towards finding that solution.
	How have you...
	What for you has been the balance, I guess, between looking at this, as you say, from your cultural background, but then also, obviously, this new role for you as a politician and what maybe is or isn't acceptable for a politician?
	How has that balanced?
	All right, so this is the big question.
	And this is this guy's political career in Nova Scotia.
	Everything hangs on this one answer.
	What about him for you?
	I'll be honest.
	It's been incredibly hard.
	I didn't sign up for this.
	This is my...
	I did this because I wanted a better Nova Scotia.
	And finding that balance between...
	Sorry, guys.
	I'm really sorry.
	I sat on the black man's lap!
	Finding that balance between an MLA and being at Yoakum Strike is...
	I feel that that's gone.
	I do.
	I truly do.
	My childhood has been stolen from me!
	And so I have to be respectful that I represent every culture and no longer yoke or strike.
	And I guess that's...
	You know that?
	I'm okay with that because that's what I signed up with.
	This is...
	Today has been...
	Oh, you know what?
	Bullshit!
	Blow me!
	You idiot!
	I can't believe this guy.
	This is like those two idiot senators that were running for the Republican nomination.
	They weren't senators.
	They were running for Senate, U.S. Senate, in a situation where it was an easy walk-away win and one of them talked about legitimate rape.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	And the other one's had some similar stupidity that he blurted out because he was just not thinking.
	You're going to be a politician.
	I mean, if you're not going to be a politician, you're just going to be a complete a-hole.
	Yeah.
	Like Martin Bashir.
	Oh, he quit?
	He was fired, although he chose to resign.
	He chose to resign.
	This is another thing.
	It's like, this is such a non...
	Story, really.
	Because this guy, the only place we know this guy from is he interviewed Michael Jackson.
	That was his claim to fame, wasn't it?
	Pretty much.
	Right.
	And then he made a comparison to slaves getting defecated in their face and that someone should do that to Sarah Payne.
	I do have the entire clip for people who want it just for reference and I think it's enjoyable, personally.
	Because the guy is worse than that.
	He's such a douchebag.
	But he's kind of been beaten to death by Beck and all those guys.
	Is this something...
	Oh, Jeff Beck.
	Who cares about Beck?
	It's not even that he was beaten.
	The other side of the aisle is going nuts, too.
	Actually, I should save this clip for just before we do a donation segment.
	Because if you look up Comcast, Bashir, you see both sides.
	It's not just Beck.
	It's the other side.
	It's the daily cost.
	Oh, it's so unfair!
	A man can't express himself anymore.
	And the left is defending him and what he said, and the women's groups aren't saying anything about it, even though this is really violence.
	Now, I'm going to agree with you there.
	The fact that not a single solid...
	You know what?
	Screw it.
	We've got to play this.
	You're right.
	Because this plays into something that...
	This is violence against women.
	And by the way...
	Beyond violence.
	Beyond violence against women.
	One more subtext.
	Violence.
	Not violence, but the war against the word slavery.
	Yeah, that too.
	Well, there's three subtexts.
	There's the war against men in general, which kind of flows into women's groups.
	I mean, the fact that no one, as far as I know, not a single women advocacy group came to Sarah Palin's side shows you How two-faced these women's groups are.
	Two-faced liars and cheap shits.
	Yeah, we should play that.
	And we end this week in the way it began, with America's resident dunce, Sarah Palin, scraping the barrel of her long-deceased mind and using her all-time favorite analogy in an attempt to sound intelligent about the national debt.
	Our free stuff today is being paid for by taking money from our children and borrowing from China.
	When that note comes due, and this isn't racist, so try it, try it anyway.
	This isn't racist, but it's going to be like slavery when that note is due.
	Alright, I've got to stop for a second here.
	What she just said there is, by the way, insane.
	This makes no sense.
	Well, we're going to be enslaved to China.
	Well, come on.
	Of course, he doesn't bring any of this up.
	What bothers me about these comments is that most of the debt is sold to the U.S. public.
	The Fed owns 30% of the bond market.
	And the amount of money the Chinese owe us, it's in a trillion or so, but it's not a big deal.
	Japan is more, I think, than China.
	Whatever the case is, this is nonsense.
	This is just jingoism.
	It's just kind of like, oh, the Chinese, the Chiners, the Chinese, which, by the way, we do.
	We've got some good stuff today.
	But it's at least based on some facts and not this kind of just, let's scare an audience with this bonus crap.
	But that's okay.
	I just want to say, you know, I read her book, I've always defended Sarah Palin, but this is idiotic.
	And the way she says it, I have to admit, it sounds very patronizing.
	And here's another thing that bothers me about her.
	She actually, all these years, could have taken some voice lessons or some public speaking, some consulting.
	She sounds worse.
	How about some consulting from the Curry-Devorak Consultancy?
	We can help her.
	Yes, we can.
	When that bill comes due.
	This is how you say it, Sarah.
	When that bill comes due.
	Bashir is off the rails.
	He's always been off the rails.
	He's just like Ed Schultz and these other guys.
	MSNBC has become an embarrassment to Comcast.
	I'm so happy you're doing this because this allows me to play MSNBC clips today as well.
	It'll be like slavery.
	Given her well-established reputation as a world-class idiot, it's hardly surprising that she should choose to mention slavery in a way that is abominable to anyone who knows anything about its barbaric history.
	So here's an example.
	One of the most comprehensive first-person accounts of slavery comes from the personal diary of a man called Thomas Thistlewood, who kept copious notes for 39 years.
	Thistlewood was the son of a tenant farmer who arrived on the island of Jamaica in April 1750 and assumed the position of overseer at a major plantation.
	Do you think that he knew this story and was like, oh, I got a great idea?
	Or did he research this?
	Oh, no, no.
	Somebody on the staff read the book.
	Now, I want to talk about just a couple of notes on this book after he's done with his diatribe.
	Okay, good.
	What is most shocking about Thistlewood's diary is not simply the fact that he assumes the right to own and possess other human beings, but is the sheer cruelty and brutality of his regime.
	In 1756, he records that a slave named Darby catched eating canes.
	Had him well flogged and pickled, then made Hector another slave, S-H-I-T, in his mouth.
	This became known as Darby's dose, a punishment invented by Thistlewood that spoke only of the slave owner's savage and inhumanity.
	And he mentions a similar incident again in 1756, this time in relation to a man he refers to as Punch.
	Flogged Punch well and then washed and rubbed salt pickle, lime juice and bird pepper.
	Made Negro Joe piss in his eyes and mouth.
	I could go on, but you get the point.
	When Mrs.
	Palin invokes slavery, she doesn't just prove her rank ignorance.
	She confirms that if anyone truly qualified for a dose of discipline from Thomas Thistlewood, then she would be the outstanding candidate.
	Thanks so much for watching.
	Ed Schultz is next.
	All right, just before you get into the book.
	Bye-bye.
	First of all, he didn't actually say someone should shit in her mouth.
	And second of all, Bernie Eccleston of Formula One pays good money for that treatment.
	So I don't understand what the real problem is.
	Okay, so let's take a look at them.
	First of all, Thistlewood was a Jamaican slaveholder, and the Jamaican operations were a lot different than they were in the United States because there was no real oversight whatsoever, and these guys got away with everything.
	And the guy was a notorious sadist.
	He was a sadist and a pervert who had slaves, which is a good example of why this institution was bad from the get-go.
	The University of North Carolina printed his diaries, which included these incidents, which were disgusting.
	But to bring this up at all seems to me to be something of a stretch, because she just used the word slavery.
	What he's implying, what I think a bigger picture is, again, the war and the word slavery, because there's an implication.
	You can't say, oh, I'm a wage slave.
	No, no, that's racist, because you're now...
	You're comparing to the horrible slave business where they crapped in each other's mouths back in the 1700s.
	And this is the kind of crazy analysis that we get from these channels, these networks, and MSNBC being the worst of it.
	And I believe that Comcast is...
	I think this is the end of it.
	I think Comcast is fed up.
	With this crap, this guy is not even the worst of the group.
	Ed Schultz is the worst, and they moved him to weekends only, and he's going to be out shortly.
	This whole operation may just shut down or go into some sort of competitive news organization similar to CNN and die that way.
	Well, you're almost forcing me into MSNBC stuff now.
	Well, what have you got, Adam?
	By the way, if you want, I do have the Martin, just if you want to do a segue, I do have the insincere Martin Bashir talking about an apology.
	I really, really, really don't care.
	I don't understand why you...
	I care for good entertainment.
	This guy apologizing is hilarious.
	But no one saw it!
	We're giving him more audience for the apology.
	Just because I need some credits.
	No, no, no.
	You're right.
	Giving him more audience is bad.
	This guy never did anything.
	Go on to your miserable clips.
	I'm afraid now.
	No, I have to take you out.
	I have to bring you back to reality.
	Hello, let's go to C-SPAN, which I was watching, instead of watching reruns of MSNBC, reruns of something that only Beck and Limbaugh talk about.
	You surprised me with this, actually.
	You surprised me.
	This is three weeks old.
	I hate this guy.
	Oh, okay.
	Well...
	Representative Duncan Hunter, he's from FEMA Region 9, he's in California, he's a Republican, and he made the mistake of going on that live C-SPAN talk show in the morning with a kind of cute girl host, you know what I mean?
	There's actually two cute girl hosts.
	Well, there you go.
	That one.
	And it's a live show.
	You can call in on the Democratic line, the Republican line, or the Independent line.
	And this show, as a politician, you should never, ever go on the show.
	But, of course, I'm sad once again that not a single, solitary, no-agenda listener calls it.
	You can call in on the show and say anything you want to these people.
	I know.
	And it pisses me off that no one's doing this.
	It's ridiculous that not one No Agenda listener ever...
	It makes me mad.
	None of the No Agenda listeners listen to C-SPAN. They refuse to.
	They don't care.
	They don't care about promoting our show.
	They just don't care.
	I get a million emails of, this must be a No Agenda listener!
	But no one is ever actually doing the work.
	William's up first in Athens, Ohio.
	Democratic caller.
	Hi, William.
	By the way, great trick.
	Calling on the Democrat line.
	That's the way you roll.
	Democratic caller.
	Hello, William.
	Hi.
	Congressman, the evidence that the World Trade Center Building 7 was brought down with explosives on 9-11 is real and proven.
	You had me at real.
	I like the way it gets to the point immediately.
	You had me at real and proven.
	And more and more people are waking up to it every day.
	How much more trust of the American public does Congress have to lose before it faces reality and acknowledges the need for a new investigation into Building 7's destruction?
	Now, John, you are without a doubt somewhat skeptical, but when it comes to World Trade Center 7, you feel this is a huge issue as well.
	How would you advise the congressman from California to answer this question?
	Well, generally speaking, I've watched this show quite often, and generally speaking, the host of the show cuts off the conversation right there.
	Oh.
	And we've played clips from the show where they say, oh, I'm sorry, but we're not going to discuss that because we're talking about this.
	I don't think the girls ever cut the collars off.
	In fact, she...
	I can dig up a clip where one of the girls cut the collar off.
	I believe you.
	Well, he's going to answer this question in probably the worst possible way.
	I don't think it needs any more investigation.
	I think the way that those towers were brought down were by radical Islamic terrorists, and that's the way it is, and I think every investigation has shown that so far.
	Who is this douchebag?
	And she asked a great follow-up.
	Did you read the 9-11 investigation by the committee?
	No, no, no.
	But you think it was adequate enough?
	Yeah, I think so.
	Richard.
	Yeah, it's great and adequate.
	He said no.
	He said it's great and adequate, but I didn't read it.
	Vote this person out, people in California.
	Who is this guy?
	What is his name?
	Duncan Hunter.
	Republican of California.
	I have another clip by this guy.
	And he's unbelievable.
	He is...
	And so, again, Republican from California.
	He may be one of the freshmen, one of the new guys.
	I think he's...
	Well, he talks like this.
	Well, wait until you hear him talking.
	When he gets into this next question...
	Congressman, have you respond to that?
	Negotiating in a religious way?
	This is about Iran and negotiations with Iran, which, of course, as a true Republican, he's going to be against because, you know, because they're lying sacks of shit there.
	I think that he is right to a great extent.
	And it's not like we're making this up.
	The Iranians have said over and over, we're the great Satan, we're the great evil.
	They're going to wipe Israel off the face of the earth.
	Okay.
	Hold on.
	Could we get to find the clips?
	The Iranians apparently said, we are the great Satan, we are the great evil, or does he mean America?
	It's confusing because it's...
	And in the Middle Eastern culture, it is looked upon with very high regard to get the best deal possible no matter what it takes, and that includes lying.
	That's one reason that these Gulf states like to work with the United States, because we're honest and transparent and we have...
	We have laws that we have to live by.
	Even in the business world, they like doing business with us as opposed to their partners or even the communist Chinese to some extent because they like doing business with people that are honest and open and transparent and forthright.
	He's basically about to say...
	That everybody in the world is a liar and a cheater in all countries, especially those Arabs and maybe even damn Jews, if you listen to what he's saying.
	They're liars.
	All they want is the best deal.
	Oy!
	Oy!
	We want the best deal possible.
	And everyone likes to work with us because we're suckers, because we're honest Indians.
	So that is, I would say, an underpinning to these negotiations.
	Once again, if you're willing to blow yourself up...
	And commit suicide.
	What an idiot.
	Talk about a guy who listens to too much talk radio.
	This guy is in the 50th District of California, which is kind of east of San Diego.
	It's not along the coast.
	It's in Escondido.
	Temecula is the northernmost part, and El Cajon is the southernmost part.
	The rest of it is just a bunch of woodlands.
	It gets better.
	People, you are not a rational person.
	And that's who you're dealing with when you're dealing with the Iranians.
	Ah.
	Are you saying all Middle East countries are this way?
	She's getting good, by the way.
	She's into it.
	She hates this guy.
	I'm really enjoying it.
	And she does it with such a pretty face.
	That's why she met that question about the towers.
	Of course!
	She's trying to bring this guy down.
	And it's working, and he deserves it.
	Willing to lie in negotiations?
	It is part of the Middle Eastern culture to get the best deal you can.
	You liars!
	When you're arguing, whether you're at the marketplace arguing over buying vegetables or buying shoes in the marketplace to do anything that you can to get the best deal.
	Yeah, that's part of Middle Eastern culture.
	They like to barter there.
	What evidence do you have?
	I'm going into the store here, you know, into a Vons or Safeway and trying to barter for your food, but they still do that in the Middle East and they try to get the best deal.
	Those bastards are trying to get a good deal where we just, you know, we play by the rules.
	We look at the price tag, we pay for it.
	The shop.
	Which is patently untrue, by the way.
	Mickey gets deals everywhere.
	Middle Eastern liar that she is.
	Shop owner will say whatever he or she has to in order to sell something, and people barter back and forth and try to get the best deal for each other.
	And I think Iran is the epitome of that because they have lied over and over and over.
	They are liars.
	The Iranian government lie all the time.
	He's just digging deeper.
	They're liars!
	They're liars!
	I'm telling you, they're liars!
	Again, I ask, why trust them now?
	Are you speaking from personal experience, talking about all Middle Eastern countries?
	From personal experience.
	So I would say not necessarily all Middle Eastern countries.
	I know that's a big generalization.
	Oh, because he's thinking, oh crap, did I just say Israel too with that?
	Oh man, I'm a doe.
	Not all.
	No, no, not all.
	They do business different than we do business in the West.
	They have markets, they like to barter, and they like to do whatever they do.
	They like camels.
	He should have thrown in a camel reference.
	I'm surprised she doesn't ask if he's ever been to the Middle East.
	He's never been.
	He's never been.
	You know he's never been.
	This guy is the liar.
	They can and say whatever they can to get the best deal.
	Absolutely.
	Fact!
	So, people in California, if you have an opportunity, you need to vote this guy out.
	We just have to start calling idiots out, and you need to vote them out if you want any kind of change ever in your life.
	Which you'll still, if you're my age, you're not going to see any real change before you die anyway.
	But you might as well give your kids a chance.
	He just looks so full of himself.
	Speaking of changing...
	It's another installment of Dinner with the Oba.
	Ah, yes.
	I tried it out, John.
	I tried my line about we don't want these douchebags at 23andMe to be the Twitter of our genome.
	And I threw some emotion into it.
	Why?
	Because I was met with a wall of silence.
	Oh, well, let's do the setup.
	Give us a setup.
	First, introduce us to the dinner.
	Okay.
	And then let's get into it.
	And by the way, the dinner, it was at Lori's house this time.
	She made cock au vin, which was a long time on our list.
	And I have to say, her cock is great.
	She got a great cock.
	Really loved it.
	So it was, you know, the artist and her husband and the professor.
	She cooked a rooster, are you telling me?
	Yeah, exactly.
	The Kako Van, the rooster in wine.
	It was a great dinner, and we talked about a whole bunch of stuff.
	And then it came out, because they were all, like, anticipating.
	I think I was just holding back.
	I was tired, too.
	It was Sunday after the show, you know, so it's very dangerous.
	They were anticipating what?
	To me, to start saying...
	Something stupid.
	No, about how it's so great the FDA shut down 23andMe.
	And I started differently.
	They anticipated this conversation?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It's the last thing I'd anticipate.
	No, in fact, there was emails before the dinner like, oh, we're ready for it.
	Oh, okay.
	And I think they're taking some offense to the O-Bot thing at this point, actually.
	Oh, why?
	I don't know.
	Mickey emailed out, hey, next O-B dinner is at our house, in the subject line.
	I'm like, okay.
	Okay, and one of them goes like, hey, I just noticed you put OB in the, you're calling these dinners OB now?
	As an Obama bot.
	Okay.
	Bye.
	Okay.
	Anyway.
	Don't they like Obama anymore?
	I don't know.
	That's what I'd ask.
	So what's wrong with being called an Obama bot?
	You're a loyal follower of the president.
	I also explained to them.
	I said, you're my friends.
	You're Obama bots.
	Obama tards is something completely different.
	That's bad.
	That's bad.
	Yeah, you're not that.
	You're my friends.
	Anyway, so we got into it a little bit, and I was met with silence.
	I'm like, don't you understand that we've seen this movie before?
	What did you say to be met with silence?
	I said, I'm not against genetic testing.
	I said the problem I have is with Silicon Valley companies taking our data and turning it into a walled garden for their own profit.
	Just like so, you know, so saying that 23andMe democratizes health care is like saying Twitter and Facebook democratize freedom of speech, which is just not true.
	Yeah, it did.
	I like the analogy.
	That would probably stun the audience.
	They were stunned.
	They were stunned, but they didn't quite get it.
	And I got emotional.
	Because I was also tired.
	I was tired.
	You can't allow this to go any further.
	Yeah, but you know, it's simple.
	We need companies to do these things.
	If there's a market for people who want genetic testing, the price will come down and give us our own data.
	You have to do these things in open source.
	You have to decentralize things.
	We have to decentralize our social networks.
	We have to decentralize our money.
	This is the worst thing no one sees.
	Well, people who listen to No Agenda see it.
	They understand that the centralization of money through electronics is horrible.
	That is slavery.
	Of course, we're not supposed to use the word slave anymore, but that is true slavery, where you don't control your own money.
	I said, the same thing with this.
	You can't trust these guys, and they're going to use your data against you, and then they get bought, and it's gone.
	We've done this before.
	No more cheap mirrors and trinkets and getting something, and you think something of value.
	You're not getting the value.
	Anyway, so this went on for a while, and, you know, so I had the dinner.
	It was a beautiful dinner, and we talked about other things, and it was great, but then the next day, The professor who would, you know, he's the senior brain professor here at UT. Neurology.
	He's the golden boy of the University of Texas.
	He sends me an email.
	He says, you know what?
	You inspired me with your little soliloquy.
	And I am off of Mac OS X. I'm installing Linux.
	I like that.
	I'm like, okay.
	It's kind of a jump, a leap, but okay.
	I think that's fantastic.
	Well, no, because that's part of the conversation is we have to, you know, Apple is totally screwing up Mac.
	He actually had a good line.
	He said, the iOSification of OSX, which I totally agree with.
	Well, yeah.
	Well, look at what Windows is doing.
	Windows is the phonification of the desktop machine.
	I want a phone operating system on my desktop with the big giant tiles.
	You'll take that and you'll like it with those big tiles.
	It's for you.
	Put on your glasses and big tiles.
	But exactly.
	And so he installed, what do you say he installed?
	I have to look up which flavor he installed.
	And I was like, okay, so I won.
	That's a little ding in the armor.
	I think that's fantastic.
	Hey, you know what?
	If he does it, his grad students will do it, and before you know it, it starts to spread.
	Yeah, until they need to use Photoshop.
	No one needs to use Photoshop the way you do, John.
	Well, be that it is May, but now that you mention the decentralization, we might as well jump to the next topic in a row as we're jumping from thing to thing.
	Go to betterthancash.org and look at the founders.
	Okay, betterthancash.org.
	This doesn't sound good.
	Better than cash.
	Is this a...
	Oh, boy.
	The worldwide initiative to get us off of cash.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Accelerating the shift to digital payments.
	Wow.
	To who?
	Oh, founders.
	Bill and Melinda Gates.
	Citigroup.
	USAID. Oh, it's a rotating banner.
	UNCDF, which is the microfinance capital.
	Oh, Omidyar Network.
	Wow.
	Visa!
	Oh, my goodness.
	The Ford Foundation.
	Why don't they just call Better Than Cash, It's the New World Order.org?
	That would be easier to remember.
	My goodness.
	This is a great website.
	This is not a great website.
	And they've got all these people that are advocating.
	Let's get rid of cash.
	Because, you know, I've always liked this thing.
	Just for starters, think of a $10 bill at the flea market.
	Right.
	I'm a $10 bill.
	How about the Austin market?
	At the farmer's market, not the farmer's market.
	I'm a $10 bill.
	I take my $10 and I buy some chicken from the chicken guy and I give him $10, I take the chicken.
	You get $2 change in Austin.
	Well, no.
	We're going to do this around numbers.
	Okay.
	So now I take the chicken.
	He takes the $10 bill and goes buy some spices from somebody else.
	The $10 goes to the other guy.
	And then the $10 floats around the farmer's market buying stuff.
	Sometimes taxes involved.
	Sometimes it's not.
	Whatever the case is, the $10 stays intact at the end of the day.
	When you don't have cash, every one of these little transactions costs 2% out of the $10.
	Okay.
	So pretty soon, it's like, you know, first it's two cents and then it's 20 cents and it's two bucks.
	After the $10 bill goes around and all the real money is gone.
	It's gone.
	It now belongs to Visa and MasterCard and these other douchebags.
	How is this good?
	Yeah, yeah, it's really, really pathetic.
	And people just, there's no education of what's good.
	There were a couple of, I think maybe, was it maybe three, four years ago, we'd talk about these videos that were floating around the net that kind of went viral that showed you how money worked, and then it was kind of like a big conveyor belt, and then it'd always be like one human resource per minute that would fall off into like the meat grinder, because that's how it works with the digital money.
	It's totally...
	It's so wrong.
	It's so incredibly wrong.
	And particularly this microfinance business, which is what Pierre Omidyar, the Omidyar Network, is involved in.
	I think we talked about this one or two shows ago.
	Yes.
	It's the microfinance that they've put into Haiti as well.
	It's not good because it's essentially getting people on board with a debt program.
	And debt is, well, yeah, it's the way our economy is built and our system, but it kind of enslaves everybody.
	It's a bad situation for most cultures.
	We do it well because the United States is a business-oriented, a mercantile-oriented society.
	The sociology all works.
	Everything is perfect.
	We can be in massive debt.
	We know how to deal with it.
	We know how to trick our way out of it.
	We know how to leverage.
	We know everything.
	And there's people out there that can just get by with really no income and they just play with money and they know how to do it right.
	This is not the case with some sub-Saharan African tribe.
	They don't know what the hell's going on.
	I mean, we take none of this into account.
	Well, let's just put them in debt and see how well they're going to do.
	I mean, it's ridiculous.
	And then you do it this way where they aren't even really in debt because there's no money involved.
	There's a card.
	Here's a card.
	It's got value.
	When you take it, what do I do with this?
	Where's the magical...
	I mean, the whole thing, it's ridiculous.
	And to push this, then, Gates Foundation, what have they got to do with this sort of business?
	I thought they were trying to end polio and end malaria.
	What has it got to do with this?
	I'm asking you.
	Well, nothing other than that Bill Gates has a lot of money or a lot of money on paper.
	Therefore, he's very smart.
	Therefore, whatever he says, which is basically Melinda with his hand up his tight ass, is great.
	I can't think of any other thing.
	Here it is, founding members, funding members actually, on this Better Than Cash.
	I hope someone's recording a backup of this show.
	I just hit record.
	How good is that?
	Guided by the belief that every life has equal value, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation works to help all people lead healthy, productive lives.
	In developing countries, it focuses on improving people's health with vaccines and other life-saving tools and giving them the chance to lift themselves out of hunger and extreme poverty.
	That's where your microfinance comes in.
	And then in the United States, it seeks to significantly improve education so all young people have the opportunity to reach their full potential like Bill!
	Based in Seattle, Washington, the foundation is led by CEO Jeff Rakes and co-chair William H. Gates Sr.
	The Eugenicists, under the direction of Bill and Melinda Gates and Warren Buffett.
	It doesn't even say anything about the microfinance.
	There's a lot of pitches in here that are kind of interesting, but the whole thing is...
	It said Jeff Rakes was in this?
	Where's Jeff Rakes' name?
	He runs the Bill of Melinda Gates Foundation.
	Oh, yeah, that's he retired.
	Okay, our vision and goals, empower people by accelerating the shift to electronic payments.
	There's a video on the homepage of Bill talking.
	Why don't you punch it up?
	Featured video on the bottom, right in the middle.
	So, John, I literally forgot to record like the first ten minutes of the show.
	And you know why?
	It's because you did a hit it before I was ready to hit it, and I wasn't ready, and I didn't record.
	Oh, it's my fault.
	Well, yeah.
	Okay.
	Where's the video?
	I don't see a video.
	It says right here, featured video.
	See resources?
	Yeah.
	Down.
	Featured video.
	Did you look at this?
	No.
	I probably couldn't handle it.
	Oh, you know what?
	Hey, we got the punchline.
	Why don't you call the NSA for a recording?
	Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!
	Dick.
	Nah, it's slow to start.
	And by the way, there was the new NSA. Well, we can talk about that later, but...
	These guys are...
	Oh, here we go.
	I'm listening.
	I don't hear anything.
	Oh.
	Well, good afternoon.
	It's great to see the attendance here.
	This is kind of a new initiative and yet already gaining a lot of momentum.
	I'm in New York this week in a broad sense to celebrate the good news story about the incredible progress against the fight against global poverty.
	It's very interesting because every setback we have, and this is a news headline, but the gradual year-by-year progress that's led us to achieve...
	Okay, you can kill it.
	Yeah, this is dumb.
	You'll just yak forever.
	Yeah.
	It doesn't say anything.
	Nothing.
	Well, I can kind of transition from this into...
	Two central bankers came out on the same day and essentially said the same thing.
	The former chief of the Central Bank of the Netherlands, the Netherlands Bank, Nout Velink, said, Oh, this Bitcoin!
	This is nothing more than tulip mania!
	Except at the end of the day, you had a tulip!
	And I need to say something about that.
	That's a good line.
	Well, no, it's not.
	I see other people do this tulip thing.
	You know, it's just crazy.
	What's interesting is that Beanie Babies is something we all remember.
	But I did some research on the tulip thing, and it's a little different than the way we remember it.
	There's a book, which Sir Wunderhelm had some scanned pages somehow.
	He gave it to me.
	And this comparison...
	Essentially, whenever there's a bubble, they say, Oh, that's like the Dutch tulip craze!
	And I think some history is warranted about what that actually was.
	I mean, the way you understand it, John, is that it?
	The Dutch tulip craze was just people went crazy about a non-product and the bubble burst and that was it?
	I mean, do you have any background?
	Tulips were very popular and they were being bred to be certain ways and certain tulips became very valuable and then there was a shortage in the market and then what happened was people began to speculate on the bulbs.
	And once that happened, it was doomed.
	But it was definitely a craze.
	So let me tell you what actually happened.
	This was not so much about the bubble as it was about the trading that was going on.
	Now, this is the 1630s.
	There was no CNBC. There were no newspapers.
	They had pamphlets, which are kind of like flyers, and people would print something up and hand it out.
	They had commodities trade, and the Netherlands kind of invented the stock market.
	And this was a part of that, because what happened with these tulip trades is people were not taking possessions of the bulb or the flower, just the contract.
	And that was something that was new.
	And by the way, in order to understand a history like this, you have to get the Dutch text, which I am able to read, so it's kind of unique that I can explain this to you because I read through the Dutch copy of what really went down.
	So this was something that was new, is people would buy a tulip and they would only get a piece of paper that was, you know, the ball...
	Yes?
	By the way, I want to interrupt.
	Anytime you have some new technology or some new mechanism, financial mechanism, that makes it look as though you can make a lot of money, people jump on it because they see...
	Bitcoin is probably, I think, is a good example now that you bring this up.
	This part of it is.
	Yes, this is exactly my point.
	So people were in it to make money on the transaction instead of making money on the commodity itself.
	This is where there was a big difference.
	Now...
	There was a lot of trouble with these flowers.
	They were hard to identify.
	There were a lot of mistakes being made and a lot of fraud.
	But in 1936...
	One of these pamphlets, again, very few newspapers, if any, floated rumors that the state was considering taxing the Tulip Trail.
	This was in 1636.
	1636, I'm sorry.
	What did I say?
	You said 1936.
	And by the way, if you notice, what you said was 1936, which is exactly...
	Exactly 400 years or 300 years later.
	Yeah.
	Interesting.
	So 1636, one of these pamphlets floated rumors the state was considering taxing this trade because they weren't really trading or buying commodities.
	It was kind of like a transaction tax is what they were looking at.
	So on February 3rd, 1637 is when the first bad auction took place in Harlem and there were essentially no buyers.
	On February 24th in Amsterdam, there was a big meeting.
	All the traders got together and they said, okay, you know what, we've got to unwind all this.
	Every trade after November 30th of 1636 can be unwound for a 10% fee on the actual transaction.
	Of course, you know, the big guys didn't really get hurt.
	Some of the little guys got through.
	And so it was kind of like a bailout, one of the early bailouts.
	But why did this happen?
	And all the texts say that there is a very clear parallel of the plague.
	The plague, of course, in the 1600s was like, you know, it happened.
	But the peak of the tulip mania trade coincided with the peak of the Black Plague, where 30% of cities were literally dying.
	And in 1636, before this bad auction...
	Twelve or fourteen of the big tulip traders died of the plague, and their kids or their family or other people within their organization took over the trade.
	So it's not that crazy to think that when you have, like, the backup guy running the trade or someone who doesn't know anything about this trading at all come into this and there's plague and people are dying and people, you know, it's a weird time, that that was really the impetus for this to fall apart.
	Not so much that all of a sudden people realized that TULIP wasn't worth anything, which to this day is not true.
	A tulip is definitely worth money, just it wasn't worth the kind of money they were paying for it at the time.
	So the crash really coincided with the new people coming in after the plague wiped out the original traders.
	And that's the part that is iffy at best to say that there's a bubble, it always pops, it always goes this way, it's overvalued.
	And it's not.
	The only comparison that's fair, I think you're right, Is that it's a trade based upon the value of the trade and what you can make in selling the ownership paper on instead of the actual commodity.
	Yeah, speculation always causes these issues.
	Exactly.
	But it's also a cycle, and I think the tulip cycle fell right on one of the cusps, so people were ripe for it.
	Because there's always opportunities to do these sorts of things, but people have to be in the right mood to actually do them.
	And by the way, for tourists out there, when you go to Amsterdam and you want to get some of these, they have some cool tulips and also these giant, whatever they're called, I can't remember the name of them, this big bulb that makes a huge flower, for sale along the water in a bunch of shops, and you can get some cool tulips.
	But make sure you go to the shop that has the approved for export tulips and bulbs.
	Because otherwise you won't be able to get them in the U.S.
	But if you get the box with the bulbs in it that has – and from all I could tell, the guy goes in the back, puts the bulbs in a box, tapes the box up, and puts the stamp on.
	There's the same bulbs.
	Yeah.
	But it's beside the point.
	So when I came in with some bulbs from Amsterdam once, I went to customs.
	I specifically took one of them aside and showed them the bulbs.
	And I said, is this – did I do this right?
	Was this how you're supposed to do it?
	She says, yes.
	Too many people don't do that.
	She says, just make sure you get the seal and the stamp, and then you're good to bring anything in, because otherwise they don't.
	Yeah, exactly.
	You need that.
	You need that.
	They'll confiscate the bulbs and put them in their own garden.
	Here's a former Fed chairman...
	Alan Greenspan, on the same day that this guy says at a banking conference, oh, this Bitcoin is nothing, Greenspan says something very comparable.
	And of course, as always, with bad news for Bitcoin, the price always goes up.
	It's a phenomenal thing that's happening.
	What are your thoughts on this?
	Did you hear that, by the way?
	Can you do what she just did?
	Wow!
	What are your thoughts?
	What are your thoughts?
	Wow, yeah, it's a little, it's like a yodel.
	What are your thoughts?
	What are your thoughts on this?
	Is Bitcoin, in fact, a bubble?
	I guess so.
	Let me say that...
	Well, let me talk for a little bit to bore you, but okay.
	Well, he says some very interesting things here, John, and I want you to catch them because he's leaving the door open in a big way.
	Currencies to be exchangeable have to be backed by something.
	When we were on the gold standard, gold and silver had intrinsic value And people would be willing to exchange their goods and services for gold or silver and wouldn't ask any questions of where the monies came from.
	Alternatively, when we went into currencies, it was the backing of the issuer of the currency.
	In other words, if some individual had great credit standing, his checks could circulate as money.
	But the question is...
	Do you hear what he's saying?
	He says if some individual had a lot of money and he issued paper, his checks, they could be used as money.
	And the first time he says it, I'm like, okay.
	But he keeps bringing this up.
	I do not understand where the backing of Bitcoin is coming from.
	There is no fundamental issue of capabilities of repaying it in anything which is universally acceptable, which is either intrinsic value of the currency or the credit or trust of the individual who is issuing the money. which is either intrinsic value of the currency or the credit or trust of the individual So he's saying this again.
	I think what he's doing here, John, if I just dissect this, he's saying that if, let's say, I don't know, Pierre Omidyar...
	If Pierre Omidyar released a cryptocurrency, which was backed by Pierre Omidyar, that that would be a valid currency.
	But it could be Peter Thiel, it could be Warren Buffet, it could be any of his cronies.
	Why?
	It could be the BetterThanCash.org people, for all we know.
	Whether it's a government or an individual.
	And he says it again.
	He keeps saying individual.
	Individuals with very high net worth and who have great reputations could create their own currency because people would be willing to exchange.
	You've got to put this in the book, John.
	He's promoting some kind of currency that's coming out backed by individuals of great wealth.
	Well, I mean, it's not different than it seems to me.
	It used to be, checks used to be kind of like currency, because you could have third-party checks, you could sign it over to somebody, he'd sign it over to somebody else, have a bunch of names on the back, and the money would float around as a check.
	So this is not really new.
	And most of the banks had their own currencies until the 1800s.
	You know, the Bank of South Carolina would issue currency, which competed with the local government could issue currency.
	So they actually passed laws against a lot of this kind of thing.
	That's why I think the Ron Paul coins got busted.
	You mean the Liberty coin?
	The Liberty dollar.
	But listen to this list, John.
	Let me finish.
	I don't see how it's any different than this kind of currency when you have common stock of an individual.
	I mean, David Bowie is a public company, right?
	Well, his published work is a bond.
	Okay, it's a bond.
	But that can be passed around like currency, and it's got some value.
	Yes.
	Absolutely.
	I'm not shocked by any of this.
	Now, he just keeps saying individuals as though, you know, Peter Omidyar is going to print money.
	Maybe even Pierre Omidyar.
	You never know.
	Well, but if you look at...
	Because I was surprised.
	Besides Bitcoin, we have Litecoin, Peercoin, Namecoin, YaCoin, NovaCoin, PrimeCoin, FeatherCoin, AnanaCoin, QuarkCoin.
	Oh.
	And a lot of these are VC-backed.
	I think someone's trying to make a move.
	And I think he's in on it.
	Checks with others probably at par.
	That is not the case with Bitcoin.
	Not the case.
	Could it be the new gold?
	Not really backed by anything?
	Is she listening to him at all?
	No, she has a list of questions on the prompter, and someone's yelling in her ear, we got one more.
	Gold isn't backed by, gold is gold.
	There is no physical, it's a physical product, it's a physical element sitting on my desk.
	His answer is...
	There's no Bitcoin that can do this.
	I think his answers may be dumber than the question, actually.
	No.
	Well, see, it has to have intrinsic value.
	You have to really stretch your imagination to infer what the intrinsic value of Bitcoin is.
	I haven't been able to do it.
	Maybe somebody else can.
	But if you ask me, is this a bubble in Bitcoin?
	Yeah, it's a bubble.
	Yeah, it's a bubble.
	And I'm riding that shit all the way to 10,000.
	You hope.
	I saw you even use my 10,000 number on...
	I'm the one who came up with the 10,000 number and told you to stick to your guns.
	Okay, all right.
	I don't think that's true, but that's okay.
	You were going to sell it at 1,000.
	You said as soon as it hits, I remember you saying...
	No, I did not.
	I said it will be 1,000 by the end of the year.
	I never said I was going to sell it at 1,000, ever.
	In fact, I said I was going to do a daily source code and I would keep all the money and keep it transparent.
	Everyone can follow my blockchain.
	And you know how much money I got for doing a show?
	Like $4 in Bitcoin.
	Which proves to me that either everyone's lying that they like the show, possible, or there's just no one's using these as a store of value.
	Horowitz dropped a Bitcoin thing on the DHM plug.
	We got six bucks, so we beat your ass.
	Oh, that's...
	And then...
	We kicked your butt.
	You did.
	Six bucks.
	So what's wrong with this picture?
	Well, what's wrong with the picture of all the Yehoos, and I'll call them out, who kept going on, oh, you know, I would give you guys money.
	We have two kinds of people that helped us contribute to the show.
	One of them, of course, none of them ever do.
	One of them is always telling us that if we didn't solicit money, they'd give us money.
	Okay, fine.
	Yeah, right.
	And the other one is that if we put Bitcoin, if we took Bitcoin, they'd give us money.
	Oh, immediately.
	Yeah, we'd be getting tons of money because we'll take Bitcoin.
	This is bull crap.
	The problem with Bitcoin at this point, and I saw one of the people are now moving to MBTC, because the problem when you get these numbers like 1,000, In order to keep the price going up, you have to do a stock split.
	You have to bring it down to where people think that they can, you know...
	Of course, please don't email me about any of what I'm saying.
	I'm not interested in your opinion anymore about Bitcoin.
	I'm just not.
	Yes, I know it's the visible blah-de-blah-de-blah-de-blah.
	I think the smallest unit is a Sumerian.
	I really don't.
	I'm not interested.
	I'm also not interested in your theories about Paul Walker's death by the Illuminati.
	I'm just not.
	I have enough of it.
	Illuminati.
	I have enough of it.
	I like that one.
	I'm interested in that one.
	Okay, I'll be happy to bring it to you.
	So the rebranding of Bitcoin down to Mcoin or whatever, you need a better name.
	You need a reverse stock split so that people can get in again at the $1 level.
	You need a new nominator.
	Yeah, I agree.
	You need a new thing.
	And until that happens, it's not going to go stratospheric.
	It should go 1,000 to 1 split, so you have to become a...
	That's the MBTC. But I don't know what the name is.
	It's a small M, big B, big T, big C. This isn't going to go away within the next 12 months.
	But you know what?
	One thing that will never change is that I want to thank you for your courage and say in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak, Well, I was about time.
	In the morning to you, Adam Curry.
	In the morning, all the ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, all the days and nights out there.
	And thank you very much, Martin JJ. He sent me an email.
	He says, no worries.
	Got your ass covered.
	I've got the recording of the first bit of the show.
	No worries.
	Thank you so much.
	It's funny.
	It's J.J. an artist doing recording the show.
	Martin J.J., he's like a backup parachute.
	You know, the one in the little bundle?
	You know, I got to meet him once.
	Oh, really?
	I haven't met him, I don't think.
	He was up at the Twit Cottage.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	What does he do?
	Artist.
	Artist.
	He's an artist.
	Now, it was not Martin J.J. who we want to thank for the previous show's artwork.
	No, I'm sorry.
	I meant Nick the Rat.
	That's what I thought.
	Yeah, I'm sorry.
	We know about it.
	I've met Nick.
	It could be the same person.
	It's not.
	I've met Nick.
	I've met Nick in New Jersey.
	Nick's a great guy.
	So, Gissy Simmon...
	An unheard of artist.
	Didn't we pull something from the evergreens?
	Yeah, it was an evergreen and then I guess she removed it or put it up into the regular part, which was not necessary.
	We do look at the evergreens.
	We do, yes.
	If people come up with some crazy idea and they just throw it in the evergreens.
	At one time, I believe we plowed through all the evergreens to come up with something.
	Sometimes we get a lot of art.
	This time we got no art because nobody was listening to the show on Sunday.
	And it's reflected in our donations.
	It is completely reflected in that.
	But anyway, NoahArtGenerator.com, thank you very much.
	Sir Paul Couture for keeping that running.
	He also submitted.
	It was not chosen, but we use it for the newsletter.
	It was almost chosen.
	It was.
	And here's the thing, though.
	You sent out a beautiful, long, detailed...
	And it's just not worth it, John.
	No, every time I've sent out a longer than usual newsletter...
	Donations are down.
	Donations go down.
	People say, you don't put any content in there.
	Okay, here's some content.
	I think people go, ugh.
	We don't want this content.
	I've had people, I do a wine newsletter occasionally.
	Which is the occasional wine newsletter.
	Yeah.
	And so I said, I want to be on the list.
	I want to be on the list.
	And so this is a long newsletter.
	It's two or three pages at least.
	Oh.
	Dense with a lot of good information.
	And I get the feedback.
	Did you get my newsletter?
	Yeah.
	Yes.
	It's too long.
	I couldn't read it.
	No, it is.
	I've become a fan of marketing through email.
	I don't know why, but I see email newsletters have gotten really good.
	I think part of that is the MailChimp revolution.
	They've figured out how to let people send pretty emails.
	And I'm starting to enjoy it.
	I'll actually look through...
	Now, I still don't understand why I get the ones from Russia and the French ones.
	And you can click unsubscribe, and sometimes it works.
	It should work.
	It works on most of them.
	Only the scammers don't.
	I'm thinking, sometimes I have a thought, like, maybe I should do my own little newsletter.
	Email is like the last thing that maybe will still be a direct connection.
	You know, yeah, okay, so Google owns your email, not mine.
	You know, at least half of us is free.
	It may be the last protocol that still works until the dark mail people come in and fix it.
	Can't wait for that.
	Yeah, well, nothing's getting fixed anytime soon from what I can tell.
	But let's thank a few of our producers for...
	Only associate execs today.
	No executive producers.
	No, no.
	You have to remember the rule is that if nobody donates more than $333.33, the most that we get from...
	Oh, that's true.
	That's true.
	Gets the executive.
	And Gregory Ball in Walsand, UK... Came in with $256.
	He becomes the executive producer.
	So he got a deal.
	Says, it's been a while, but due to no job, but you guys helped me through.
	Now I got a job at the beginning of November, so here's a donation to celebrate my first pay packet in five months.
	So, thank you.
	Thank you so much.
	That was nice.
	That's super nice.
	And thanks for sticking with us.
	Yeah.
	Uh...
	Pisan.
	The Pisan.
	I think Pisan.
	I would say Pisan.
	Is that Pisan?
	No, there's no T. I would say Pisan.
	Please refer to me as the Pisan.
	The Pisan.
	Sorry.
	Hey, crack, kill, and buzzpot.
	It's time I sent you value.
	Your analysis on the Snowden leak and that progressive hypocrite's journalistic paywall, a.k.a.
	the green wall.
	Ooh, I like that one.
	The green wall.
	Glenn Greenwall.
	Has been very helpful in understanding the nature of these supposed journalists.
	Without the No Agenda show, an intellectual darkness would cover the FEMA Region 3 and all of Gitmo Nation.
	I believe you two are uniquely equipped to topple the empire.
	Yeah, that's us.
	This is a bastardization of our slogan, which is Hillary Clinton is uniquely qualified to run the empire.
	Try it out on your friends.
	They'll love it.
	Yeah, did you try it out at the Obot dinner?
	Several times.
	And?
	It's more silence.
	You were just getting the silent treat.
	I was getting the silent treat.
	Yeah, well.
	250 bucks from Del Pisson.
	Chris Eisbach in Cheshire, Connecticut.
	231.
	This makes today a triple witching day.
	It's my birthday?
	Mm-hmm.
	Do we have him down for that?
	It doesn't look like it.
	Hold on.
	Let me make sure we've got...
	Maybe.
	He's not highlighted.
	Well, he is highlighted.
	You can't do two highlights on the same...
	Oh, he gets a knighthood, and yes, and he gets a birthday.
	Wow!
	It is the day my brother-in-law has brain surgery to get rid of a tumor.
	Well, that's a happy occasion.
	And now I'm made a knight.
	Please give me a fuck cancer and karma for my brother-in-law's surgery.
	I'm looking forward to wenches and beer and becoming part of the No Agenda Brewers Guild.
	Can't wait.
	Fuck!
	You've got karma.
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	Let us know how the op went.
	And finally, for $211.11 from Craig Mozilla, Norwalk, Connecticut.
	John Adam, I always thank you for your courage.
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	Please accept my slave pal donation as follows, 1-11-11, to make it rain, and the remainder to lend me an associate producer credit, assuming my math is correct, since I'm not a victim, I mean student of Common Core Education, I'm sure it is.
	I'd like to call Merit and Femke to the stage.
	Merit and Femke.
	Femke, is it Femke?
	Yeah, like, yeah, Femke Janssen, like the actress, Femke.
	Oh, yeah, that's the one she played, she's a famous, she played on the top.
	Bond girl.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, the Bond girl.
	She's quite attractive.
	Yes.
	Keep up the good work.
	She didn't age that well, by the way.
	What?
	She hasn't aged that well since the movie.
	Oh.
	Well, it happens.
	Mm-hmm.
	I like a little, she has a, she looks like she's got those Eastern European genes, which don't do well.
	No.
	I like a little girl's shut-up slave.
	Orioles are more addictive than cocaine for my wife, Jamie.
	And how about George Clooney as a spy?
	I'm sorry.
	I keep hearing noise.
	I'm not sure what was going on.
	What did he want?
	Alright, he wants Logo Shut Up Slave.
	Oreos are more addictive than cocaine.
	God.
	And George Clooney is a spy.
	Okay, well this is...
	He just wants to hear cool stuff.
	Yeah.
	These are really our jingles.
	Alright, where's the Oreos?
	I have the Oreos.
	I got that one.
	I'm having trouble finding the...
	Oh, maybe it's under the Clooney spy.
	And then, was it Little Girl Yay?
	Yeah.
	Oh my god.
	And all of that wrapped in a karma, no doubt.
	Well, he didn't say karma.
	We'll do it.
	Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine.
	George Clooney.
	Is a spy.
	Why?
	You've got karma.
	Cur nailed it.
	It is so funny.
	The George Clooney is a spy?
	Yeah, I don't know why that clip is so funny, but it's just funny.
	Well, it's, you know, and this is why our show is so great.
	And so George Clooney comes out, I tweeted this of course, and says everyone who uses Twitter is a moron, and the whole thing is stupid.
	Did you read the whole Esquire article?
	No, I didn't have to.
	I'm like that guy.
	I'm like that Duncan guy.
	I told you that.
	I don't read anything.
	Whatever rumor goes around, I'm in.
	Exactly.
	Well, there you go.
	Well, thank you very much to our associate executive producers and our executive producer.
	Gregory Ball grabs that today.
	We, of course, really appreciate your support today.
	As you'll see, we have a rather short, short, short list.
	And John thinks it's the Thanksgiving time period.
	And I'm always amazed because where's everybody else from the rest of the world?
	They stop listening?
	It's just it?
	They don't have Thanksgiving time.
	Maybe they're all influenced by what's happening in our media that everyone goes into.
	It might be true because all the network TV normal series is all on vacation.
	This particular week, there's nobody working.
	That's correct.
	And the story I got emailed the most...
	Was about this father and son who got into a fight over their mac and cheese.
	And somehow this is hilarious and this is emailed a million times.
	Did you get this email?
	Yep.
	I want to thank Tyler Gordon.
	I didn't even open it.
	I find it to be just kind of distressing.
	Well, I want to thank Tyler Gordon, one of our producers, who gave the proper analysis.
	He says, Well, things are getting pretty rough in Gitmo Nation East.
	The younger son is apparently a no-agenda listener who fully understands the value of mac and cheese and will not stand for cheeseless macaroni.
	Which is exactly what the fight was about.
	It was about cheeseless?
	Yeah, the father didn't want to...
	There wasn't enough cheese packets to go onto the macaroni.
	Cheese packets?
	Well, remember, this is in the UK. They don't really know how to do mac and cheese properly.
	It's the home of the cheddar.
	That doesn't mean they know what they're doing.
	All right.
	Anyway, please support us for Sunday's show.
	Sundays are always harder than Thursdays, so I'm not looking forward to what we'll see on the spreadsheet, although we will be there with your news analysis.
	And of course, you can always continue to go out and propagate that formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Water. Order.
	No.
	Shut up.
	Sleep.
	All right.
	Alright, now I have to go into the big news of the week.
	This was anticipated, of course.
	The release of some of the 911 call tapes.
	Yeah, like we're still recording 911 calls on tape.
	It's funny how people...
	That's a good one.
	The tapes have been released!
	And then actually the release of the tapes actually said tape one, tape two.
	No, these of course are digital recordings.
	Now, there was a couple things that were interesting.
	Now, of course, I listened to them.
	I listened to what was released.
	As you know, none of the evidence of the Sandy Hook shooting is actually evidence of a shooting.
	It's a lot of evidence about Adam Lanza's home and all this stuff.
	But the interesting was all of the news outlets, except ultimately CNN, I think, who played a little bit, refused to play the tapes.
	Which, of course, made me highly interested in hearing how important the stuff, the information was that's on these tapes.
	So let us just go down a quick list here.
	Now, I'll start with...
	Remember, I get to do some MSNBC stuff now.
	And although I've been banned, I've been banned from playing anything by him, I'm bringing it out because you said I could do it now.
	No, no.
	You weren't banned from playing for anything by any quote-unquote hymn?
	I was banned from playing anything by Toure.
	Oh.
	I thought you were banned from playing anything from Rachel.
	I have that, too.
	Oh, yeah.
	Toure.
	You're right.
	It was Toure.
	Here's Toure.
	Why?
	You recorded this assuming you were going to be unbanned when you actually haven't been.
	Correct.
	The ban that you gave me for, I forgot what it was now.
	I don't know.
	Is off.
	You don't even know what the ban was.
	I'll remember it eventually.
	It'll come to me, dammit.
	Here's Toure explaining why, why they're not playing these 911 calls.
	More developing news this afternoon on The Cycle.
	Within the past hour, authorities released a handful of 911 calls.
	A handful.
	A handful.
	From inside Sandy Hook Elementary School, just ten days out from the first anniversary of one of the deadliest mass shootings in American history.
	This is obviously a sensitive issue for the families who lost loved ones, and for many others in the community, and for many in America for that matter.
	NBC News is currently reviewing the tapes, but for now at least, we are choosing not to air them.
	Today's release ends a months-long court fight to make those tapes public.
	Opponents argue the wounds are still too fresh, but those who argued for their release say the calls may provide insight into the way the response was handled and perhaps get us better prepared for future events.
	Oh, yes.
	Be prepared for future events.
	You know, guys, just because the media has something, a photograph, a tape, a piece of video, doesn't mean that we have to release it.
	Doesn't mean we have to say, whatever we get, we just put it out and let the people decide how they feel about it.
	We make decisions.
	And this is what's so interesting, that this is happening the same time where the...
	Yes, he's a douche.
	There's CCTV footage of Paul Walker's car crashing, bursting into flames.
	There's pictures.
	Everything is on it except for the burnt to a crisp body.
	But every picture is out there.
	But what to air, what to broadcast every single day.
	And we're talking about audio.
	We're talking about people calling out.
	We're not talking about pictures or video.
	We're talking about 911 calls of people calling, perhaps in distress.
	And, you know, we have to ask, is this valuable for the public good?
	Does it advance the story?
	Does it enhance the narrative?
	Does it enhance our understanding of what happened in a given situation?
	When did he become a knight of morality?
	Why is this happening?
	I can only think of a few things, and one of them is...
	They're meant to shut up and not play this because, well, perhaps there's nothing on it or it's really unimportant.
	There's nothing on it or there was no emotion, it didn't make any sense.
	All the things that have been uncovered by the YouTubers that have gone over most of this evidence with a fine-tooth comb, much of the stuff they've uncovered is quite interesting.
	Well, here's Rachel.
	Now, Rachel did a 20-minute segment about...
	She started off with...
	Slowly I turned.
	She started off with how the New York Times published a picture on September 12, 2001, of someone jumping from the World Trade Center...
	And, you know, how this whole thing about the responsibility of the media and it's so hard and doing journalism is hard and making the hard, tough decisions.
	It's so hard.
	Oh, it's so hard.
	We don't know.
	Now, this is the day before the tapes are released.
	I think I'm going to have the vapors.
	Exactly.
	She is so insincere about this.
	It is a very, very uncomfortable thing.
	It's uncomfortable.
	So she has not heard the tapes.
	The tapes are not released until the next day.
	Already she's presumed...
	Already she's uncomfortable.
	Yes.
	But it is part of why the job of a free and responsible press is not just an important thing in a democracy.
	It's a hard thing.
	It's hard, John.
	Don't think that you can be a free press in a democracy.
	Not you, Dvorak, because it's hard.
	And it's really complicated.
	And it's disturbing.
	And you may not have the balls for it, my friend.
	And it's a hard job, and it is hard to do well.
	It's not hard, Rachel.
	Hard is hard.
	It's not hard.
	Remember George Bush going on and on and on?
	I guess.
	Help the people who do it to be worthy of the responsibility that they have.
	Are you worthy of the responsibility?
	Because I'm about to play some of these tapes, John.
	I hope you're worthy of that responsibility, that huge responsibility.
	Tomorrow morning, in a law office in Danbury, Connecticut, the news media will get access to the tapes of the 911 phone calls that were made in Newtown, Connecticut on the morning of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shootings.
	The state of Connecticut and the prosecutor's office and representatives of the victims' families say they did not want those tapes to ever become available to the public.
	Ever!
	But the Associated Press sued to get access to the tapes.
	Those horrible Associated Press people!
	And a judge ruled in their favor, and the appeals were dropped, and so tomorrow morning in Connecticut, the media, for the first time, will get those tapes.
	Woo!
	And then what?
	And then what?
	Now it's up to the good judgment of the media to decide whether those tapes should be publicly broadcast.
	Whether what they will add to the public understanding of the Sandy Hook massacre outweighs the additional pointless trauma that playing those tapes publicly will undoubtedly cause to the families and the survivors in Newtown.
	Forgive me if I'm wrong, John, but we got here over and over again the so-called tapes from the cell phones on the 9-11 airplanes and phone calls from people on the 98th floor.
	I mean, over and over again.
	The biggest tragedy in American history.
	And now, all of a sudden, we have the dame of morality.
	The dame, she's on her white horse named Morality, riding through the desert of Morality to stop us.
	You're giving us all kinds of imagery here.
	Again, it was an Associated Press lawsuit that brought about the access to the toast that's going to happen tomorrow morning.
	It's interesting.
	And all of the AP's own news stories about their own efforts to get access.
	Then she goes into all kinds.
	Okay, so I'm going to stop that there.
	Even Al Jazeera won't play the tapes.
	Recordings of the 911 calls from Sandy Hook Elementary School.
	The shooting there were released earlier today.
	The audio reveals a mixture of calm and anguish as town dispatchers urged panicked callers to take cover as gunshots could be heard at times in the background.
	Al Jazeera America will not play those audio recordings.
	Why not?
	Of all the people who should be playing it, please listen to the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group.
	Someone needs to play these things to get some ratings.
	You're morons, or you're completely controlled.
	I think this is the point, really.
	Al Jazeera...
	Nobody knows they're even on anymore.
	I mean, they're on.
	Al Jazeera America is on the current network.
	Nobody's ever watched that network or cares.
	And nobody watches Al Jazeera.
	I mean, I always forget about them.
	And I'm doing all kinds of clips.
	I've got some news from Tezikistan, some network.
	But I don't watch Al Jazeera.
	I try to, but I keep forgetting about it.
	They need to get some attention.
	They would have run this and been the only network to run it.
	Then everyone would have, of course, have been, oh, this is terrible that they ran these horrible, well, that would have got them a lot of attention.
	They know this.
	There is no tape.
	Well, here, so I have, I listened to all seven tapes, and I was dumbfounded.
	That the majority of the recordings are of the acting custodian for that day, Rick Thorne, who has never been...
	Where'd you get the tapes?
	The tapes have been released.
	Oh, they're all over the place?
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	The tapes.
	And they're bullshit, right?
	Well, listen to what I'm saying.
	The majority of what is on the tapes, and I listened to them four times, I got what you need to hear, you don't need to hear anything else, but the majority of the tapes are of the, listen carefully, acting custodian for that day, Rick Thorne.
	So he's a fill-in for that day.
	Find an interview with him by any of the networks.
	Find an interview with this guy by anybody.
	Find a print interview with this guy.
	Non-existent.
	This guy might as well be a zombie.
	Yet here he is, and he has a very interesting way of talking.
	Alright, what about the students in the front of the building?
	Everything's locked up as far as I know.
	I'm not in the front.
	Alright, you're in lockdown?
	So he says he's not inside.
	Are you in lockdown?
	Yeah, they're in lockdown.
	Did you see anything out the window?
	We're in lockdown.
	No, it's still going on.
	I can't get over there.
	Okay, I don't want you to go over there.
	I want to know what's happening with the students, though, along the front corridor.
	Is this in the front parking lot?
	Yes.
	I'm not in the front.
	I'm actually down the other part, but I'm close.
	I'm close.
	Do you see anything or hear anything more?
	I keep hearing shooting.
	I keep hearing popping.
	Popping.
	All right, John, let's get one caller.
	I'll take my caller.
	All right, now, who am I talking with right now?
	What's your name?
	Rick Storm.
	What is your position with the school?
	I'm the acting head custodian for today.
	For the acting custodian, he knows the address exactly well.
	Alright, now when you say the school is in lockdown...
	He knows about everything.
	He hasn't been up front.
	All the doors are locked, including the classrooms.
	We're in lockdown, although he isn't there.
	Sir, at this time you're defending in place.
	So one flight down the highway.
	Interesting, the dispatcher, I guess that's just a mistake on the dispatcher's side.
	You're defending in place?
	You're defending in place.
	Now, from a conspiratorial angle, and by the way, a lot of people hate me for doing this, but I don't care.
	Someone has to go through this tape.
	Who hates you?
	People will be like, oh, that's the people who watch MSNBC and are happy that they didn't play the tapes because it's so insulting to the dead children, John.
	That's the people who will hate me.
	Oh, nobody said that to you.
	At this time, all the rooms are locked?
	Yes.
	Okay, did you see anything out front before this started?
	No.
	I was out all morning.
	No, and I was out all morning.
	See, he even starts off the call with, I'm outside.
	So all of this is very shaky.
	Where are you in the...
	Okay, the gym teacher told me they saw a shadow going past the gym.
	Okay.
	The gym teacher just told me.
	This is all new, by the way.
	The gym teacher just apparently walked up to him as they're shooting all over the school.
	As he's outside doing what?
	Who knows?
	And someone's walking outside.
	Just now?
	Yes.
	All right.
	This guy's the worst actor ever.
	Wait for it.
	Are they running on the outside or the inside?
	I would say that was the outside.
	They are running on the outside.
	More than one person now.
	There's still shooting going on.
	Please.
	All right.
	What about injuries at this time?
	So now we hear something that sounds like gunshots in the background.
	We're not sure what that is.
	Excuse me?
	What about injuries at this time?
	I don't know of any injuries right now.
	Okay.
	There we go.
	You're coming at me now.
	I'm going to play.
	Jen, I need you to call the state police.
	So there was someone yelling at the acting custodian for the day.
	Just...
	At six, this is it.
	It's still going on.
	Okay.
	Now listen to...
	I did some editing for you, obviously.
	Listen to some of the language he's using in this part of the call.
	Because he basically stays on as the eyes and ears of 911.
	Again, a guy who we have never seen in an interview anywhere, ever.
	Alright.
	Do you hear any police officers at this time, Rick?
	I'm hearing talking.
	I'm not seeing anybody, but I'm hearing talking.
	Okay.
	Like I said, I'm standing in the middle of this corridor.
	How unlikely.
	He's standing in the middle of the corridor.
	There's shooting going on.
	Makes sense.
	But he was outside.
	Well, that's what he said first, and now he's inside.
	Codeine 6.
	Listen, he's like, I'm the custodian!
	I'm the custodian!
	Listen to this.
	Custodian, custodian.
	16th Street entering Southeast.
	Portrait of Westport.
	945. Custodian.
	All right, tell him you're on the phone with me.
	I'm on the phone with dispatch.
	Okay.
	Now, this is a big problem for me.
	If I'm the custodian, and I'm saying, I'm on custodian, custodian, and then I would say, I'm on the phone with 911.
	No, I agree.
	You only use that term, generally speaking, if you work within the government and an agency.
	That's what you...
	You're driving around in some car.
	Dispatch.
	Yeah, I got dispatch on the line.
	The cops say.
	Yeah, so he may be an ex-cop, but we don't know this, because we've never heard from this guy.
	What?
	What?
	Yeah, it could be an X-Cup, something like that.
	Well, we don't know.
	Victims in the building.
	How many?
	How many?
	Two down.
	Two down.
	She's like, two down, two down.
	It's like, okay.
	Is it safe?
	So nobody.
	I didn't see anybody going there.
	All right, Rick.
	Rick, I'm going to let you go.
	You go with them.
	Call the state police, okay?
	He's now telling them to call the state police?
	Why does he...
	I mean, I didn't hear anyone tell him to do that.
	They've been notified.
	They've been notified.
	All right, Rick, I'm going to keep you with me.
	I actually told him to call the state police a little earlier, too.
	But why the state police?
	Well, I don't know.
	That's part of the protocol.
	Now...
	The temporary janitor's protocol?
	Yes, yes, hello.
	Haven't you read the acting janitor for the day protocol book?
	Okay, so here's another part of interesting protocol.
	And by the way, this is the worst you'll hear on these tapes.
	That's the only shooting that's on any of these recordings.
	And there's one, we don't know, but who she was, was shot in the foot.
	And this is her demeanor on the phone call.
	This is how upset she is by what has happened, by being shot in the foot.
	And the fact that the police calls in to dispatch and just puts her on the phone is very strange to me.
	This is the state police.
	I got a victim from the shooter here.
	She's been shot once in the foot.
	She's been shot once in the foot?
	She's in room number one.
	Room number one?
	One shot in room number one.
	How close are you guys to arriving?
	So this is the state police calling him.
	I've got one shot.
	He's not freaking out.
	He's not like, oh, there's 20 people dead.
	There's kids bleeding all over the place.
	I got this lady.
	She's shot in the foot here.
	How long until you guys get over here?
	What?
	How close are you guys?
	A female shot in the foot.
	You got a female party shot in the foot.
	Yep, she's in.
	Right by the playground room number one.
	Oh, I know that.
	Okay.
	Where are you?
	Are you okay right now?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Hey, just put it on the phone.
	Where is room one in the school?
	Facing the playground.
	Where are you?
	Facing the playground.
	On the playground?
	Facing towards the playground.
	Are you safe right now?
	I think so.
	My classroom door is not locked.
	She's with the state police.
	What?
	I don't know if I'm safe.
	My classroom door is not locked.
	The state police are standing right next to her.
	I'd be like, yeah, I got a guy with a gun here.
	I got the police with me.
	I feel pretty safe.
	Okay.
	Is there anybody that can lock the classroom door without being safe?
	No.
	Safe to do so.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Just try to stay where you are.
	Okay.
	There's children in this room.
	Okay.
	Try to apply pressure, okay?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	We have people coming, okay?
	Uh-huh.
	All right.
	Okay.
	Is there any other teacher with you in there or just students?
	No, there's two other adults in the room with me.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Are they right next to you or where are they in the room?
	No, they're over on the other side of the bookshelf.
	Okay.
	All right.
	Are you okay right now?
	For now, hopefully.
	Okay.
	I don't understand.
	There was a madman running around, shooting 100 rounds in 5 minutes, killing children and teachers left and right.
	Everyone's so calm.
	So, here's the reason I realize, listening to this, why MSNBC and even Al Jazeera...
	Because it doesn't fit the story.
	Doesn't fit the story, and they're boring.
	Yes!
	So you make them exciting by saying, oh, it's so horrible.
	Yes, exactly.
	People who listen to our show should think about this.
	Yeah.
	Talking to the mic.
	They have been telling us that these tapes are so horrible that they're journalistic consideration...
	They had to expunge them.
	They couldn't play them because of your poor tender ears out there.
	It's too upsetting.
	It's too upsetting.
	And so you play the tapes, which nobody apparently wants to do for the obvious reasons.
	They're boring, they're not upsetting, and they don't fit the scenario.
	And by the way, I do want to talk a little bit about the scenario.
	I have one more than I want to hear what you have to say.
	A little thing from Andrea Mitchell...
	Who is talking to one of the so-called mothers of Sandy Hook, who, of course, they don't want any of this publicity.
	We don't want it.
	We don't want any of this.
	Please stay away from us.
	No 911 calls.
	But we'll be there on December 14th when we go against all the gun regulation or go for the gun regulation.
	So Andrea Mitchell, and she says something very interesting here.
	I want to ask you about the reports from the investigating group on Adam Lanz's mother and the fact that she was getting him another gun, that he was apparently such a mentally challenged child, a young man, and that her way apparently, it's hard to tell because there were no survivors here from that family, but her way of reaching out to him was to...
	I'm sorry?
	No survivors from that family?
	How about his dad?
	How about his so-called brother, Ryan Lanza?
	Oh yeah, I'm sorry.
	They're all on the same cruise ship with Edward Snowden's stripper girlfriend, who we also can't interview, and the acting head custodian.
	This is such an insult.
	Such an insult for someone like Rachel Madcow to say that she's a journalist and all this integrity when they're doing nothing because they're either in on it, they're in on it, and they are horrible, horrible people.
	I don't know that they're in on it.
	Then they are just stupid.
	There you go.
	I think you're finally getting it.
	It's really insulting, John.
	There's no way she's in on it.
	She goes to the White House Christmas dinner.
	I mean, it's just that we have, if you go to YouTube and I sent that link, I mean, there's one, we had this one hour and a half thing that the two of us listened to.
	Let me explain this one thing.
	When John C. Dvorak is sending me YouTube videos and saying, wow, this is some good analysis.
	What do you think?
	Then something is amiss with the real story.
	Take time.
	Something is wrong.
	So I had some thoughts about this because I was concerned about all the YouTube videos and the deconstruction of this happening everywhere to an extreme.
	Of all the things that have happened, the Navy shooting, it wasn't that much.
	Nobody got into it.
	The...
	What was a couple other of these events?
	The Boston bombing thing a little bit.
	Well, Boston bombing, we still to date, along with the governor of Massachusetts, have yet to see the footage, the video footage that exists, according to all sources, of the brothers putting the backpack into the trash can moments before it exploded.
	We have the LAX situation, which is another phony baloney deal.
	Too many things don't make sense.
	We have the crazy cop, and these are all on the cycle, by the way, the crazy cop that was going to start snipering all the LA Police Department who burned to death in a cabin in the woods.
	Do you know that it's been confirmed that he committed suicide?
	Oh, he committed suicide, then burned to a crisp, and then they drug out these perfectly pristine weapons that he had cached.
	Dorner is his name.
	Dorner.
	It wasn't one burn mark on any of them.
	They weren't smoking.
	And then when we had the crotch bomber, when that occurred, which was a couple of years ago, during Christmas, we played clips from people who were filming it.
	Lawyers who wanted to testify, actually testify in court to say, hold on a second, that's not how it went down.
	And we saw this guy walk him onto the plane.
	He had no visa, no passport.
	They put him right on some dude who was hanging out.
	Yeah, the whole thing was fishy.
	Hold on, here's your Dorner thing, 20 seconds.
	It appears the man who declared war on Los Angeles police killed himself.
	An autopsy shows Christopher Dorner died from a gunshot wound to the head.
	We're also hearing Dorner hid in a condo very close to the command post set up to find him.
	He took off after tying up the condo's owners and stealing their car.
	During a last stand, a cabin erupted in flames.
	Police say tear gas canisters started the fire, but that was not their intention.
	No, they didn't intend it, and he shot himself in the head.
	After his wallet was found twice, in Mexico and then in Northern California.
	So insulting people.
	Hmm.
	Well, anyway, we just push all these aside.
	We have the bomber.
	And if you recall, the one curious thing about the crotch bomber was that when they took everybody off the plane, they took them individually into a big hangar.
	They were separating them.
	Yeah, to kill them.
	Yes, I believe that may be true.
	To kill them, but something fell apart in the story, and so instead of killing them or making them sign something and then putting them in a witness protection, there's a million ways you can do it.
	You don't necessarily kill them.
	It gets messy.
	But you scare people.
	Yes.
	I mean, there was this one episode in that woman's diatribe on YouTube that she said that it's possible that One of the sheriff's department guys or one of the police spokesmen said, you will be prosecuted for talking about this.
	Remember that?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It's possible there may be a national security letter of a form that we have never seen or has ever been revealed.
	Yeah, it's called the two guys who show up with the sunglasses and the big gun in your nose.
	And it may be to keep people, to shut people up.
	So I was thinking about, what if this Sandy Hook thing and these other things are exercises, sociological experiments on the public?
	We've known to experiment with the public.
	We don't.
	Psychological warfare, psyops, i.e.
	in the conspiratorial language.
	And psyops, which were normally illegal, I think have been legalized.
	And so this could be a psyops and it's a test.
	And what they're testing is not necessarily the gullibility of the media.
	They are testing the holes.
	They're testing the leak points.
	And so what they want is women like this one who went for an hour and a half finding every little screw up, the sign behind them saying they should check in, this guy showing up here but being over there, every little mistake that – and our show is culpable in this regard.
	Every single mistake that they make is being documented.
	So when they pull a whopper, they'll have all the bases covered.
	They'll know who to kill.
	Well, that too.
	But I don't think it's going to go that way.
	I think what they have to do is just...
	These are mistakes.
	There are mistakes that were made.
	They were setting up a press conference before the event.
	There's all sorts of things that they're doing wrong.
	That was an annoying one, wasn't it?
	And all the black cars, apparently the whole town, in fact there's some belief by this woman that the entire town may be just all spooks.
	Yeah, possible.
	Why not?
	You gotta live somewhere.
	Yeah.
	Hey, we gotta, it's like the firm.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And so, I mean, these, you know, fiction does kind of address these things in a small way.
	So what we might be watching, actually, are just exercises in leakage.
	In other words, what is the, what is the, here, let's do this and see what happens.
	And you tear down the school and then get rid of all the evidence because it could come back on the town.
	Right.
	Could be embarrassment to somebody, whatever the case.
	There are holes in the story, and the story holes are getting out there on YouTube and other places.
	And it's not to get to these people, because a lot of them are pretty flaky in the way they present this stuff.
	But just to see what serious mistakes were made in the presentation of the event.
	And I think the Sandy Hook thing is the worst that they've ever done.
	A very, very poor job.
	It's very poor.
	I think that Los Angeles thing was a little better.
	You realize what you are saying, right?
	That you are actually saying this.
	Yeah.
	This is unthinkable five, six years ago.
	No, no.
	Not with the evidence presented to me.
	Okay.
	As opposed to just, oh, my car can run on water.
	Okay.
	So I'm guessing that this is a possibility because if you're doing sociological experiments on the public and you just want to see how they react to horrible situations, then you have to like see what mistakes you make.
	You do a post-mortem at the end.
	You say, well, and then let's let these things play out.
	What are you going to do about these YouTubers?
	Let them play out.
	We're going to learn more from them.
	Right.
	We don't have to do a lot of work on this.
	The YouTube nutballs are going to get out there and they're going to do these ridiculous presentations.
	Let's see what they come up with and then we can make corrections in the future.
	We don't have to screw up every single time we try to do one of these things.
	So we agree then that the media that gets paid to report, they are all in?
	No.
	What do you mean no?
	I don't believe it for a minute.
	But they're all in on the PSYOP. They're buying the story.
	Oh, no, they're buying the story.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	That's what I mean.
	Not they're in on it.
	Oh, I thought you meant they were in as a part of the...
	No, they're all in, and it's...
	They believe what the government tells them.
	But really?
	They have been trained by journalism schools.
	Yeah, you're right.
	The whole machine has been created to become just an instrument of the government in what it wants.
	It tells them this and this.
	They have a press conference and somebody comes out and says, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	The only truth you're going to get is through this microphone.
	Oh, okay.
	The only truth we're going to get is through that microphone.
	Let me get my pen.
	So the media has become stenographers.
	Let me get my tape recorder.
	Yeah, let me get my tape recorder.
	So if we're going to be all in on the opposite side, saying that this is a bunch of setups and nobody's really being harmed necessarily, or they're just trying to scare the public, or whatever they're trying to do at any given time, it seems to be different a little bit each time.
	We have to assume there's an event coming up on the 14th, and I went through a list, I put it in the newsletter, of the sorts of things that have happened so far.
	We've had schools, we have a government facility in the Navy Yard, we've had a marathon.
	I have a thought.
	I have a thought.
	So this is our six-week cycle, where something has to happen to keep the general population in line, learn how to shelter in place, cower in the corner, and pay attention to the giant voice system, which, as you've noticed, perhaps, in the reporting, a couple of giant voice systems have been going off, and there's been apologies.
	And people with iPhones, Mickey has it now, too.
	The iPhone goes, woo-woo-woo-woo-woo-woo!
	And then you look, and then it's like, Amber Alert!
	Old guy in the car!
	Who knows?
	Can't find him!
	I got a tweet this morning.
	Amber Alert went off at a university, a giant voice system.
	So you get the big megaphones are telling you what to do, and this is complete and utter slave compliance training.
	And I'm thinking the next event will be a natural one.
	And I hate to say it for your sake.
	It could be.
	I'm thinking earthquake, something nasty, West Coast.
	It could be an earthquake, Southern California.
	Yeah.
	But I still think we're still missing because there's good money to be made from a sporting event.
	Because if a sporting event goes, you have an event there, you end up with selling a lot of goods and services and...
	Training a lot of security guards.
	So Sir Rod Adams, our nuke expert, he said the only game around that time is Army-Navy.
	I've been thinking about this.
	I've never actually thought it would be a football game.
	There's too many witnesses.
	I think it would be like a basketball game someplace, which are on all the time.
	There's a basketball game every night somewhere.
	It'd be a basketball game or a hockey game.
	The hockey season's begun.
	You could do it.
	A hockey game would be real easy to control.
	You know, John, I just...
	I think there's more money to be made because right now we're sharp, right?
	We're cocked and loaded.
	The typhoon in the Philippines, clearly, clearly climate change.
	It's so obvious.
	The science is in.
	We all know it's true.
	It's a fact, okay?
	And the fact that we're such a-holes as rich West people, I would actually say rich, white, middle-aged men, because we're getting blamed for everything, that we don't want to pay them Right?
	That's why they walked out of the climate conference.
	I'm thinking you get more mileage.
	Did you hear they want to put an early warning system up on the North Pole for when the ice breaks?
	There's billions of dollars to be made in this scam.
	Billions.
	I think there's more to be made than what Chertoff is thinking of with his little security things.
	So while certainly we'll see a good sporting event mishap take place?
	Yeah, but if this is sociological studies, let's say, there's a psyops.
	Psyops and natural disasters I don't think is going to be...
	Yeah, I think you're right.
	There's tons of money to be made off going in that direction.
	But I still think it's going to be some...
	It's got to be homegrown terrorism or some sort of...
	Okay, okay, okay.
	This leads me into...
	A couple of clips I have.
	I was waiting for it.
	This is...
	Now, the two people who have oversight in the United States, in Congress, are Congressman Mike Rogers.
	He is on the Oversight Committee for the Representatives of the People of the United States.
	And Senator Dianne Feinstein, she is on the Oversight Committee For the Senate for the people of the United States.
	And they were on Candy Crowley's State of the Union together.
	And I was blown away by the fear-mongering, the lies, the condescending attitude, the way they're saying this.
	And if you watch the video, which is in the show notes, 571.nashownotes.com, under video, you'll see Rogers is looking at Crowley.
	You know how...
	It's so funny because there's, I don't want to say his name, but there's someone we know who could talk just like this.
	And they'll talk to you looking at you sideways, like, hey, you know, this is some really serious shit I'm talking about right now, and that's why I'm looking at you sideways.
	Do you know what I mean?
	Yeah, that sideways look.
	The sideways guy.
	It is a constant reminder that we are only one missed piece of data away from another terror attack against the U.S. This, by the way, is a great setup from the news model.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	She didn't go to the right modeling school, but of course she's Rubenesque and that's credibility.
	She literally just said we're one piece of information, a missed piece of information away from death.
	Just so you know.
	I recently spoke with the chairman of the Senate and House Intelligence Committees, Dianne Feinstein and Mike Rogers.
	The big question that's always asked, are we safer now than we were a year ago, two years ago?
	Oh, John, do you want to give a shot at the answer before Diane takes over, or do you want to...
	Is this the same Diane Feinstein who, like, what, four years ago asked these douchebags, one after the other, that were the head of the, you know, Homeland Security, the head of intelligence, the head of the military...
	Are we going to have an attack on the homeland in the next 60 days?
	This is the same woman?
	That would be the one.
	And they all said yes?
	Now, if you wanted to scare people, if you wanted to scare them more than normal, if people are already afraid of, let's say, I don't know, bombs, let's just take bombs for a second, what would scare you more than just a bomb?
	Well, there's all kinds of things.
	Just a bomb, I would say.
	Bird flu, rampant bird flu in the Bay Area.
	That would bother me.
	No, no, no.
	You've got to think simpler.
	But okay, here we go.
	In general...
	I don't think so.
	I think terror is up worldwide.
	Terror is up worldwide?
	The statistics indicate that.
	The fatalities are way up.
	The numbers are way up.
	There are new bombs, very big bombs, trucks being reinforced for those bombs.
	They're new bombs.
	What is she talking about?
	There are new bombs, very big bombs, trucks being enforced for the bombs, the numbers are up, the statistics don't lie, it's all up, more dead people.
	Listen to it again.
	It's unbelievable what she's saying.
	Way up.
	The numbers are way up.
	There are new bombs, very big bombs, trucks being reinforced for those bombs.
	There are bombs that go through magnetometers.
	The bomb maker is still alive.
	There are more groups than ever.
	And there is huge malevolence out there.
	Huge malevolence!
	Is he doing a summary of the TV show Blacklist?
	Yes.
	The bomb maker is still alive?
	That's right.
	He's still alive.
	The guy who makes the bombs that can go through the magnetometer, he's still alive.
	He's making bombs.
	We're not talking just regular bombs.
	We're talking very big bombs.
	There are trucks being reinforced for these big bombs.
	If she knows that, why don't they just go grab the truck guy?
	Let's go grab the bomb.
	They know these bombs are out there.
	Let's switch over to Rogers.
	And by the way, before you go on, you have to give yourself Clip of the Day for that gem.
	That is very kind of you.
	I think, though, I'll take it.
	I'll take it now and then...
	I can grouse about it later.
	Just take it.
	Big bombs.
	Clip of the Day.
	Now let's switch over to Rogers.
	Rogers is going to, he has to lay out kind of the, you know, he's got to start explaining, you know, where the fear is coming into.
	Because it's not just big bombs.
	No, I mean, there's got to be more than that.
	For the same very reason.
	So the pressure on our intelligence services to get it right, to prevent an attack, are enormous.
	And it's getting more difficult because we see the, Al-Qaeda as we knew it before is metastasizing to something different.
	It's metastasizing into something different.
	Okay.
	More affiliates than we've ever had before, meaning more groups that operated independently of Al-Qaeda have now joined Al-Qaeda around the world.
	All of them have at least some aspiration to commit an act of violence in the United States or against Western targets.
	Every single one of them hates us.
	All around the world.
	They've now switched to this notion that maybe smaller events are okay.
	Ooh, John!
	Hold on a second.
	We've identified this switchover probably...
	I think it was after or before the crotch bomber where they couldn't get any more of these big events lined up.
	There was no way you could, I mean, whatever happened, you know, they're just not going to do it.
	Correct.
	We're not going to see it is what it was understood as they wiped out most of the Al-Qaeda guys who might be able to dream something up.
	And so then they switched over the message to lots of small events.
	Now, I want to mention something here just before we continue with this clip.
	There have been no lots of small events.
	There have been some scam events and some dubious events that have hardly done much damage to anybody.
	In fact, according to testimony by the people themselves, only one actual event was thwarted.
	That was a real event.
	All the rest was bull crap or goaded by the FBI into giving some guy a plastic box that says, you call that number, it'll explode.
	And it doesn't because they've been setting him up and feeding him drugs or whatever.
	So we don't have any evidence of any of this.
	You think these two idiots were working on commission or something?
	Well, it's the political capital.
	That's exactly what it is.
	And these people also need to be voted out as soon as possible.
	This is Feinstein, California.
	Where's Rogers from?
	Michigan.
	Vote him out, people.
	I don't care who you put in.
	He's clearly compromised.
	He's compromised.
	He's sitting there lying to you, trying to frighten you into submission.
	To commit an act of violence in the United States or against Western targets all around the world.
	They've now switched to this notion that maybe smaller events are okay.
	So if you have more smaller events than bigger events, they think that might still lead to their objectives and their goals.
	That makes it exponentially harder for our intelligence services to stop an event like that.
	Because essentially one person can do a small event.
	Absolutely.
	Thank you for being so helpful, Candy.
	Yes, thank you for completing the script.
	Yes, one person.
	All it takes is one crazy jihadi.
	Now, we've got to go...
	Did she ask a follow-up question?
	Which would be, so does that mean that all this surveillance and NSA snooping and all the rest of it is pretty useless?
	No.
	Did she say that?
	No, she says exactly the opposite.
	Exactly, which will be coming up in a moment.
	First, we have to let Diane, she has to talk about the jihadis and the lone wolves.
	And she, at this point, I think she had to pee or she loses the plot.
	But it was her turn to talk.
	One of the things that the senator said was that there is more hatred out there, more...
	And why is that?
	I think there is a real displaced aggression in this very fundamentalist, jihadist, Islamic community.
	Displaced or misplaced?
	She says displaced.
	She says displaced.
	And she literally just calls out...
	Islam, which is funny.
	And why is that?
	I think there is a real displaced aggression.
	Why is that wrong when she says displaced?
	Or why is it actually correct?
	I'm looking at it now.
	I'll play the rest.
	In this very fundamentalist, jihadist, Islamic community.
	Oh, it's a community.
	It's very fundamental.
	It's small.
	It's Islamic.
	And it's a community.
	And that is that the West is responsible for everything that goes wrong.
	Oh, yes.
	Okay, so here's the difference.
	Displace means that one thing is taking the place of another.
	But it doesn't have any subtext, whereas misplaced would say that one thing is taking the place of another, but it's wrong.
	So she actually uses the wrong word.
	She's saying, yeah, now they hate us, but they probably should.
	She's actually on the wrong side of this argument by using that word.
	Well, is she or is she?
	Words matter.
	I'm telling you.
	That what the heart is full of, the mouth bubbles over with.
	And that the only thing that's going to solve this is Islamic Sharia law and the concept of the caliphate.
	Okay, so now we know the problem.
	The problem is we're doing it wrong.
	We're doing it wrong.
	Eight years behind the times on this thing.
	Okay, go on.
	We're wrong, and Sharia law will solve it, along with the concept of the caliphate.
	Essentially, that's what she said.
	Hi, Diane.
	Welcome to 2014.
	So she's like a Muslim.
	Yes.
	And I see more groups.
	Groups?
	More fundamentalists, more jihadists, more determined to kill to get to where they want to get.
	So...
	It's not an isolated phenomenon.
	You see these groups spread a web of connections.
	So she's so out of it at this point that she is now taking this full circle from it's individuals who can blow us up, but they've created a web.
	And we're in there, evil web of Sharia law and the caliphate, and they're going to kill.
	She said, kill!
	And then she said, kill us!
	And this includes North Africa, it includes the Middle East, it includes other areas as well.
	All the great places we've got to send our troops.
	Back to Rogers!
	Lay out the fear points!
	Rogers?
	So you see what's happening in a place like Syria, where you have a pooling of Al-Qaeda members and affiliates of Al-Qaeda in a way we've never seen before.
	We brought them there!
	We sent them there!
	We sent them weapons and arms!
	What do you mean?
	We've got!
	He actually is saying we've got, not we're seeing, we have.
	No, he's saying we've got.
	You see what's happening in a place like Syria, where you have a pooling of al-Qaeda members and affiliates of al-Qaeda in a way we've never seen before, at the level of numbers that we have never seen before.
	And here's the scary part of this.
	Thousands of people showing up to participate in that, in their mind, jihadist effort, are Westerners.
	They're coming back!
	Meaning they have Western passports.
	A percentage of them have already gone home, including the United States, by the way, is included in that Western number.
	We are very, very concerned that these folks who have Western paper have gone there, participated in combat events, are trained, are further radicalized, now have the ability to go back in Western countries.
	It could be my neighbor!
	Hey, where is all the evidence of this?
	I don't see bridges blowing up, buildings being toppled, just kidnappings.
	There's nothing going on!
	Because of our, the men and women in our intelligence community have been stopping this, thwarting this.
	We've been, there's at least 54 cases.
	You are safe, citizen.
	You're safe, citizen, because we are awesome.
	Apply that trade.
	And now they have a direct connection to al-Qaeda affiliates operating in a place where most people would say, well, we have no interests in Syria.
	Well, clearly we do.
	And clearly that's just one place and it's starting to spread.
	You saw what happened in Lebanon recently where they blew up the Iranian embassy.
	This is all starting to spread.
	Iraq.
	Iraq is having its problems now.
	It's spreading into Lebanon.
	Jordan has issues.
	Turkey along the border has issues.
	This is very, very, very concerning.
	It's very concerning.
	I'm very concerned.
	I'm very afraid.
	They're doing such a great job of protecting us.
	Play the no-fly list clip.
	A little intervention by Dvorak?
	Six-year-old Alyssa Thomas is like any little girl.
	Ta-da!
	She loves her dolls, and she's already excited about the first grade.
	But according to the U.S. government, you should be worried about what she's up to.
	I'm putting equipment on here.
	We were, like, puzzled.
	I'm like, well, you know, she's kind of six years old.
	This is not something that should be typical, but I'm like, well, okay.
	Dr.
	Santosh Thomas was just made aware that his oldest daughter is on the list, the terror watch list that impacts travelers who could be a threat to national security.
	Alyssa's parents found out at the Continental check-in counter during a recent trip from Cleveland to Minneapolis.
	Well, you know, you're laughing about that, John.
	You might be going to Minneapolis to blow it up.
	Don Ruff!
	Shut up, don't raff!
	She could have a plastic bomb in her.
	There is now a bomb that can go through magnetometers.
	People can get on aircraft with those bombs.
	They have tried to send four of them into this country.
	Two of them in printer cartridges.
	One by Abdulmutallab and one an asset was able to obtain out of Yemen.
	These were coming into this country.
	Two of them aimed at synagogues in Illinois.
	I'd forgotten about that.
	That was good.
	And by the way, what's a magnetometer got to do with a printer cartridge?
	Nothing.
	Bring me that printer cartridge.
	You gotta walk it through.
	Is that a printer cartridge up your butt?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	No worries.
	Well, here's the answer to your question, actually.
	So, you think about what's happened with the recent disclosures.
	We have now three al-Qaeda affiliate groups have changed the way they communicate.
	It means it's less likely that we're going to be able to detect something prior to an event that goes operational, meaning that they've already started the final planning stages to blow something up.
	Here comes the final word.
	And so we're fighting amongst ourselves here in this country about the role of our intelligence community that is having an impact on our ability to stop what is a growing number of threats.
	And so we've got to shake ourselves out of this pretty soon and understand that our intelligence services are not the bad guys.
	There you go.
	That's the final word.
	We're not the bad guys.
	The bad guys.
	The Al-Qaeda affiliates.
	Russian intelligence services.
	Chinese intelligence services.
	What?
	I've got to write it down.
	Hold on a second.
	Al-Qaeda affiliates.
	Russian intelligence.
	Chinese intelligence.
	They're the bad guys.
	Bad guys.
	The Al-Qaeda affiliates, Russian intelligence services, Chinese intelligence services, the Quds Force that operates terrorism events all around the world.
	Those are the folks we need to focus our attention and our energy on in order to keep America safe.
	I think that this should be an international scandal.
	I think you're dead on on this one.
	That would have been clip of the day, you're right.
	I knew it.
	Because this idiot just declared war on Russia and China.
	Yeah.
	They're like Al-Qaeda.
	The war on terror includes Russia and China, apparently.
	Yes!
	Yes, this is how insane this is.
	How come people aren't up in arms about this?
	This guy needs to be removed from this committee.
	He needs to be removed from Washington, D.C. Yes, he does.
	People, please, you Michigan folks, you've gotten better than that.
	The guy is a stooge.
	Yeah, yes.
	And when you see the video and he's talking to Candy, looking sideways the whole time he's saying it, and he talks like this.
	I mean, clearly it's the Al-Qaeda and the Al-Qaeda affiliates, and it's the Russian intelligence services, the Chinese.
	These are the bad guys.
	These are the people trying to kill us, people.
	They're trying to kill us.
	Isn't that right, Diane?
	What he's telling is that Russian intelligence is trying to kill us.
	Yes.
	And Chinese intelligence is over here.
	They're going to set something up and try to kill us.
	Yes.
	What he said.
	Yeah.
	Exactly.
	Uh-huh.
	Meanwhile, of course, the monetization of Edward Snowden continues, as does the conversation around.
	It's getting kind of interesting.
	Pierre Omidyar.
	We need to either pronounce his name properly or give him a good nickname.
	I think Omidyar is fine.
	Omidyar.
	It's got to be something that irritates him a little bit when we say it wrong.
	Nah, he's never going to listen to this show in a million years.
	Well, first of all, we called him Peter.
	I think that's kind of funnier.
	Pete.
	Pete O'Meteor.
	Pete O'Meteor.
	I guess he had to finally write a piece, which I doubt he wrote, about the PayPal...
	Shutdown that...
	And cost WikiLeaks its momentum.
	Right.
	And he wrote a piece which is entitled WikiLeaks Press Freedom and Free Expression in the Digital Age, which I pooped my pants laughing at the idiocy.
	He turns it around.
	He turns around a clear act that PayPal shut off WikiLeaks for months.
	And even though I think he says fairly that, you know, when you're a publicly listed company and the government says, hey, you've got to stop that, which of course they had no right to do, but okay.
	He wrote that, but the whole article is about, well, you know, what is protest in the digital age?
	You know, denial of service attack.
	Yeah, you know, you have a link to the show notes, I'm sure, for that article.
	Yeah, of course.
	Yeah, what was that all about?
	It was like he was off the tracks, off the rails, just going crazy.
	With these different assertions, trying to cover his bases as a kind of a rich guy from Silicon Valley who really has to protect his wealth and his investors' wealth.
	And then the guy starting up this great newspaper, or whatever it's going to be, with a bunch of left-wingers.
	I find it distressing to read.
	Well, yes.
	And I just want to, and of course the conversation is now all about the reporting and Glenn Greenwald and Pete Omacar, but we're not really discussing the reporting itself, which is not journalism.
	I'm sorry, it's just not journalism.
	So we had this two pages from another PowerPoint deck, Are published by the Washington Post.
	And this time it was Barton Gelman, who was in on the monetization.
	And the title of the piece is NSA's Huge Trove of Location Records.
	And so what is being given to us, and I'm just going to play devil's advocate because I've got nothing better to do.
	What is given to us is two pages of a PowerPoint deck.
	And page one, I'm looking at it right now, it's from a program apparently called FACIA, F-A-S-C-I-A, which could be split up as an acronym as well, but we don't know exactly.
	And it says, example of current volumes and limits, and it's a bar graph that when you look at it, you can deduce That 5 million records, 5 billion records per year or per day are collected by the NSA. Yeah, per day.
	And then the second page of this deck, which I'm sure there were more pages because it's page 5 on the deck, this bar graph, and page 26...
	Is the metadata being collected, which is location area code.
	But you think there might be more to it.
	Yes!
	And it's a fucking PowerPoint deck!
	This is not proof!
	This is not proof.
	I gotta say it.
	It's not proof.
	Yeah, it's a big pile of smoke and I'd like to know about it, but you need sources, interviews, confirmation, or denials.
	You need more than this.
	This is not journalism.
	This is republishing, or whatever you want to call it.
	And it makes me mad that people buy into it.
	Now, do I suspect it's true?
	Sure!
	But it's not journalism.
	It's just not.
	Or is it?
	Well, I would say with the redefinitions that are taking place, notably with WikiLeaks, Where they would take a pile of stuff and just put it out there and then call it journalism.
	Yeah, but even WikiLeaks didn't really do that, John.
	They really didn't do that.
	Well, with our stuff, but with other stuff, if you look over...
	WikiLeaks over the years has essentially taken a pile of stuff and put it out there.
	And yeah, there's been stuff that's been looked at by the government first.
	So there is a scam involved in that.
	But...
	No, all I'm seeing is that they take a PowerPoint slide, put it up.
	It's almost like a creative writing exercise in high school.
	Here, write an essay about this slide.
	Yeah.
	And so they get the slide and it says they're following people around on their phones, which I believe is probably true.
	This constitutes the evidence.
	It could have been a fake.
	I mean, I don't know who did this slide.
	I never met the guy.
	It could be bullcrap.
	Yes.
	The NSA failing to deny it, but they don't want to talk about anything anyway, so you don't even know if that's true.
	Well, so here's how the Washington Post gets away with this.
	So the article is by Barton Gelman and Ashkan Sultani.
	You don't have to, believe me.
	Ashton Sulkarni, he's a consultant.
	I could do his job.
	He's a technology consultant.
	He's the kind of guy that says, yes, Google Glass is very effective.
	And the article is NSA tracking cell phone locations worldwide Snowden documents show.
	And then it says, this is the article.
	The National Security Agency is gathering nearly 5 billion records a day on the whereabouts of cell phones around the world according to top secret documents and interviews with U.S. intelligence officials.
	What interviews?
	There's not a single interview, not a single thing printed in this entire article.
	The piece in the Washington Post, which I might want to point out is now owned by Jeff Bezos, who's on the level of Pete Omacar, another Silicon Valley guy, who pwned...
	The journalism on Cyber Monday with this huge bullcrap story about Amazon drones delivering packages, which I might want to point out, every single mainstream news outfit fell for hook, line, and sinker.
	Not me.
	No, of course not you.
	But PC Magazine didn't publish a column.
	Yeah, they did.
	They ran on Wednesday.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, it took them long enough.
	Yeah, I asked them why it wasn't up.
	They said, well, all your comms go up on Wednesday.
	No, I know what's going on with them.
	You don't have to say it.
	Whatever the case, it went up on Wednesday.
	And they kept the good lines in there.
	And it was the 60 Minutes.
	It was Charlie Rose.
	These people should be banned from...
	Is there a card?
	Is it like a press card?
	It should be taken away from them.
	Because that's journalism?
	That's your highfalutin journalism?
	Actually, I have a quote from the interview in the column, which I should probably open up and just read.
	Yes, please do.
	Part of Rose's journalism style.
	Go to PCMag.com real quick.
	Just take a second.
	Didn't we used to have that clip of Charlie Rose sounding really creepy?
	No, that creepy clip.
	You have that clip.
	That's the one where he's talking to some woman and he says, what's it like to be sexy?
	I think it was Angelina Jolie, wasn't it?
	Oh, it was Angelina Jolie.
	I don't think I have that clip anymore for some reason.
	Oh, don't throw clips away.
	It may be mislabeled.
	Okay, let me just read the last paragraph.
	Why the media doesn't see this as a bad idea, giving away the milk, as it were, is always baffling.
	Bezos is only an interesting character.
	To business owners who admire his pluck, I'm saying why Bezos is getting attention.
	To the public, he's no Kim Kardashian, yet we run uncritical puff pieces as though he were.
	To make it work, 60 Minutes uses fawning softballer Charlie...
	Slow it down, because it's a good article.
	Slow it down.
	Take your time.
	To make it work, 60 Minutes uses fawning softballer Charlie, I never met a rich guy I didn't like, Rose.
	Good one.
	For Bezos, he is the perfect interviewer.
	Here is an example of Rose's probing style.
	Jeff Bezos.
	You come and get your package, and we can do that.
	We can do half-hour delivery.
	Charlie Rose.
	Half-hour delivery?
	Bezos.
	Half-hour delivery.
	Anyway, that's the kind of interview.
	Will people go read that column?
	I'll put a link to it in the...
	In the show notes.
	Yeah, so this is what journalism has become.
	And it's unnecessary.
	There's no need for it whatsoever.
	It's compromised from beginning to end.
	Don't think for a second CBS is not compromised by Amazon.
	Please.
	And doing this on a day when it's Cyber Monday, everyone needs to be thinking about Amazon.
	It was a commercial.
	If they didn't get paid for it, they should send a bill after the fact.
	But then look at all of the newspapers, all of them.
	Yes, this is fantastic.
	This is the stupidest thing I've ever seen.
	My tweet was...
	And that thing supposedly could lift five pounds?
	That box was empty.
	This is not going to happen.
	This is not going to happen.
	If you think this is going to happen, then where's my flying car?
	This will not happen.
	No, this can't happen.
	It's not possible.
	It's a nightmare.
	It's not even within the realm of possibility of happening.
	You can't even say it's not going to happen.
	Well, yeah, I can say that.
	But I'm also going to say it's just like the driverless car.
	It's not going to happen very soon.
	This is never going to happen.
	The driverless car could happen.
	Because the driverless car is on a street that's paved in this map.
	It's going to take decades.
	It's going to take decades before the driverless car is on the street.
	Put it in the book.
	We'll both be dead before this is mainstream transportation.
	And I will come back and laugh at you.
	It's not going to happen.
	Anyway, my point would be, there is journalism in today's world, and not to belabor the point, and I know that you work for them, but look at who's advertising on PC Magazine.
	The model is broken.
	You don't need a network.
	You don't need to have a group.
	You don't need to have a sugar daddy, venture capital, Silicon Valley bitch to pay you.
	You don't need it.
	Glenn Greenwald, I'm happy if you just want to sell the documents and stories about the documents to individual newspapers.
	It's a great business model.
	Nothing wrong with it.
	I'm all for it.
	But you don't need Pierre Armacar for it.
	What do you need him for?
	Because you need a lease vehicle or something?
	A lot of people really enjoy working for someone.
	Well, we don't even know if he's working for, working with.
	Is he a shareholder?
	Is he beholden to...
	We don't know the deal.
	Now, all of a sudden, you need transparency.
	You're dumb.
	We'll never get that.
	No, Greenwald, you're dumb.
	You're stupid for doing it this way.
	And you sold yourself out because you couldn't keep your fat trap shut.
	You were so horny about this deal.
	You were so turned on that you leaked it yourself to BuzzFeed, you moron.
	And I think that will fail.
	And then you hired Jay Rosen?
	Are you kidding me?
	No, people.
	If you want anything that is at least honest, this is the place you need to be.
	Well, with that in mind...
	Yes, indeed.
	I'm gonna show myself old by donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on your agenda in the morning.
	Yeah, we didn't get much action today, I have to say.
	How's our model working out, John?
	Brett Beecham likes us.
	He's in Serena, Queensland, Australia.
	$111.11.
	Hi, guys.
	Great show.
	Can I get a de-douching and a call to stage from Roberta from Arley Beach?
	So we do have two Make It Rains, then.
	We have three, actually.
	We've got Merritt, Femke, and...
	Roberta, so I'll...
	Okay, well let me first de-douche him.
	You've been de-douched.
	Okay, are you ready to do some of this?
	Yeah, I guess so.
	Okay, give me a little...
	Okay.
	The main stage calling up Roberta from Airlie Beach.
	Give it up for this lovely lady who likes Harry Potter and the Clint Eastwood movies.
	Get your fistful of dollars ready for Roberta.
	Calling Merritt and Femke to the champagne room.
	Boys, you do not want to miss these two beauties.
	They're ambidextrous and contortionist.
	Bend your elbows for Merit and Femke.
	Yeah, good work.
	Femke, but okay.
	We know Femke.
	What?
	They need material.
	We need material?
	Yeah, they need material.
	That's what they do.
	They make some joke.
	Yeah.
	These curls.
	It was pretty good.
	All right.
	Onward.
	Indeed.
	Sir Borislav Marinov, our buddy in Aliso Viejo, California, $88.88, a bunch of eights.
	Oh, hold on a second.
	I know what he's looking for.
	He's looking for little ham eights.
	Yep, got it.
	Ham-8s.
	He's got a birthday coming up.
	We've got him on the list.
	David Cain in Elkhorn, Wisconsin.
	$70.
	He's got a noagendablog.com.
	Check it out.
	Noagendablog.com wants to feature you in Noagenda-style articles.
	Well, this, of course...
	Take the feed from Noagenda News Network.
	This is, of course...
	Now, this is...
	Is it David?
	That's not the right name.
	This is our guy from noaginascd.com, isn't it?
	Is it David?
	Is David Cain, the noaginascd guy?
	Why am I thinking it's not David?
	Hold on a second.
	I got an email from him.
	Let me just double-check.
	Okay, well, while you're doing that, I'll read Michael Greer.
	Schick-Sinny.
	Schick-Sinny.
	Schick-Sinny, Pennsylvania.
	Schick-Sinny, hit it.
	Oh, hit it.
	69!
	69!
	Got it.
	Once this was enough for his lovely Miss Sarah.
	Yeah.
	Well...
	Oliver Kyrie Lee...
	Kyrie Lee...
	Kyrie Lee...
	Kai.
	Let's see if you can pronounce that.
	You might have a clue. Krielais. Krielais. Krielais. Krielais. Krielais in Berlin, Deutschland. Krielais.
	It's Greek.
	It's a Greek name, he says now.
	Look at his thing.
	Anonymous, Los Angeles, California, 6969.
	He says he's been a boner for a while, now he's a donor.
	Clay...
	Oh, brother.
	Batcheviche.
	You think so?
	Yeah, Batcheviche.
	Tucson, Arizona is where all the...
	So he sent a couple emails.
	He sent one Sunday and said, John, skip me!
	But then I looked at his email and he sent it and it came in at 1.30 a.m.
	The cutoff is midnight.
	Yeah.
	Well, Arizona is on their own time.
	That's the weird thing about that state.
	So maybe he thought he was getting in on time.
	No, but then that still would have been 12, because they're one hour away from...
	That's true.
	Yeah.
	But anyway, Clay, thank you very much.
	And he actually sent me another email today.
	He said, I know donations are down.
	Hope you saw mine.
	I sent it in Saturday night.
	You guys missed it in the last show.
	So I think that was just a...
	Well, here it is.
	69-69.
	And that closes the segment.
	And we don't need to play anymore.
	Robert Blair in Airlie Beach.
	Oh, he gave us another $56.78 besides the $200.
	Hmm.
	Oh, wait.
	Does that make him?
	I think that makes him executive producer as well.
	Okay, put him up there.
	Good catch.
	Robert Blair.
	I just said Robert Blair.
	What am I thinking?
	Michael Van Laar in Rochester, New York.
	51.50 as we quickly run out of names.
	He's got a birthday coming up.
	Put him on the list.
	Jeremy Alexander.
	I'm on Airy, Maryland.
	50 bucks.
	Also 50 dollars from Christopher Walker and Matthew Januszewski in Chicago.
	Also 50 from Alex Martinez Bath in Avon.
	Francia M. Sheehy, Worcester, Massachusetts.
	Massachusetts, I'm sorry, got their name wrong.
	Brett Farrell, Oklahoma City.
	And that'll do it.
	That's all we got.
	That's what we get after Thanksgiving.
	That's the typical situation that we run into when we have a long holiday.
	People...
	No, I'm very happy I didn't do anything with those Sandy Hook tapes.
	I'm happy I didn't watch C-SPAN to get that Duncan Hunter douchebag.
	I'm really happy I didn't do anything because I feel like that would have been really unfair if I had done all that work.
	Well, that's the way it goes.
	That's the way it goes, okay.
	help us out people for the Sunday show it's your birthday birthday I'm no one champion Mike Nikolajchuk, 34, is his age on...
	Well, that's what he turned yesterday.
	Happy birthday, Mike, long supporter of the show.
	Chris Eisbach, celebrating, along with Sir Bereslaw Marinoff and Michael Van Laar, 36, today.
	Happy birthday from your friends here at The Best Podcast in the Universe.
	It's your birthday, yeah!
	And then we have Chris Jacob, long-time supporter of the show, Bullseye.
	What is that?
	I keep forgetting the name.
	Hold on.
	He has a gun thing going on.
	Let me see what it is.
	I think it's BullseyeUSA.
	Yeah, BullseyeUSA.com.
	He becomes a Baron.
	He's the Baron of Carson Valley, Nevada.
	And we welcome him.
	That's his protectorate.
	I know he's up in Nevada.
	Nevada.
	Nevada, not Nevada.
	Nevada?
	Yes, Nevada.
	Well, he has...
	I don't know if he lives there.
	I know he has a store there.
	He has a store in California.
	He has a couple of stores.
	It's worth visiting.
	For people out there who are like a tourist, I'm going to give tourist tips from now on.
	Virginia City is just dynamite little town.
	You should check out Virginia City, Nevada when you're in the area.
	Indeed.
	Dynamite Lowtown.
	And then we have a knighting, Chris Eisbach.
	He said he was looking forward to becoming part of the No Agenda Brewers Guild.
	Now John is in charge of all things beer, so all I do here is the knightings, and therefore I'd like you, Chris Eisbach, to step forward, please.
	Thank you very much for supporting the New Agenda Show in the amount of $1,000 or more.
	And we are thereby very happy to welcome you to the Night of the Roundtable, the Roundtable of the Knights.
	And I hereby pronounce the Sir Chris Knights of the New Agenda Roundtable for you, sir.
	Opium and warm orange juice, librarians and Jager bombs, hookers and blow, rump toys and chardonnay, hot pants and booze, wenches and beer, geches and sake, vodka and vanilla bong, hit some bourbon, sparkling side and escorts, or maybe just for you, sir, some mutton and mead.
	And thank you again for supporting the show.
	Hopefully we'll see more support from people for Sunday because we are doing some work for sure.
	Well, you're particularly vulnerable because I've noticed you keep doing the moonlighting thing.
	I heard you on CCTV. I don't know how they...
	Were you on green screen?
	I couldn't figure it out, but...
	So after Egypt completes its transitional period, nothing should hinder the next elected government from having an old friend as an ally.
	What?
	What?
	You're using that stupid, that phony Dutch accent?
	Is that really his name?
	Adam Curry?
	That's what it sounds like to me.
	He said Adam Curry, CCTV. That wasn't you?
	No.
	Cairo.
	Hold on, listen to that.
	That's pretty weird, John.
	So after Egypt completes its transitional period, nothing should hinder the next elected government from having an old friend as an ally.
	Adel Mahrui, CCTV. Cairo.
	Someone's getting cornholed today.
	Sounds like a recipe for success to me.
	Yeah, I'm all over the place.
	You're getting way too much work.
	I had an idea, by the way.
	I had an idea for us to make more money.
	I interested.
	Now, I have to ask you a couple questions because I'm not sure if we can pull this off, but...
	Now, you've done these big technology books before.
	Now, before getting into the rant of how O'Reilly might rip us off, the way I understood...
	O'Reilly's on this killings thing.
	He's killing different people, and he's making so much money with these killing books that he's not ripping anybody off.
	Okay.
	So, if there were a technology book, and I have the idea, which I want to pitch to you, The way you've explained it to me in the past is, you know, we sell the idea, then we get the money, and then we pay freelancers like 50 guys to write little bits and pieces of it because, you know, there's no way you wrote the entire Windows 3.1 telecommunications book by yourself, obviously.
	It's very clearly outlined in the front of the book how these books are produced.
	Right.
	But that's how it works, correct?
	It's one of the ways you can do a big book.
	Can we still do this?
	Is this model still available?
	Because I have a great idea.
	Well, you know, the publishers don't care anymore about anything, and the advances are down the tubes.
	I don't think so.
	I mean, it's possible.
	On a long shot, we can get some agent that would pick it up and try to move it.
	Should I give you the idea then?
	Yeah, sure.
	So I'm going to pitch this.
	So you know that I've been on this long-term mission of, you know, we've got to know how to set up our own email servers.
	You've got to know how to install Linux.
	You want to do it?
	Yeah, okay.
	I think I know already where you're going with this.
	I bet you don't.
	I bet you don't.
	I bet I do.
	Tell me.
	Go on, tell.
	It's the post-apocalyptic technology survivor kit.
	Exactly.
	And we write it from the viewpoint of, okay, the EMP struck.
	The only thing left were, like, maybe we'll say Dell laptops or something.
	Like, all the Apple stuff is all fried.
	Dell laptops.
	And of course, Dell would pay us for that.
	Or Lenovo.
	We could figure out what.
	Whoever's got the money.
	Whoever's got the money.
	And then we'll explain how to turn it into a server.
	But we'll also add some ham radio stuff in there with digital to create ham mesh networks.
	Google's gone.
	Twitter is fried.
	Basically, Silicon Valley perished.
	Right?
	In the apocalypse.
	And this book explains how you can rebuild your...
	How you rebuild society.
	Society, yes.
	Thank you.
	Exactly.
	What do you think?
	Okay.
	I think that's actually a doable book.
	Now, I mentioned this to Mickey, of course.
	First of all, she rolled her eyes like, ugh, okay.
	Oh, God, he's bad enough.
	The guy's bad enough.
	No, no, no.
	It was just about the book in general.
	And she said, okay, and who do you want to write this?
	Do you want to write this yourself?
	I'm like, no, I'm not.
	And then I said, John, and she went, what?!
	He never finishes any books!
	Are you crazy?
	This isn't too good an idea!
	Hey, this reputation I'm getting is not good!
	But I thought that maybe because the model is you get a whole bunch...
	Because we're not going to write how to install...
	No, it's a project.
	It's a project management thing.
	Yeah!
	You get...
	You get a bunch of people assigned to the different...
	The way these books are done, these monster books, and this is pretty typical.
	Let me point something out.
	There's an extra coolness about this particular book.
	It's a real book.
	It has to be paper.
	Oh, no, it has to be a real book, obviously.
	Hello?
	But we can do hardcover with, you know, like fireproof.
	We can do a special edition.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's the gift that keeps on giving.
	Asbestos.
	Yes.
	Asbestos.
	But it's a great gift.
	People will love giving this as a gift.
	No one's going to read it, but it'll be fun to give it to people as a Christmas gift.
	This is a really outstanding title.
	It's doable as a project.
	The key to success with these large, large book projects is that you have to, with the real work, There's two phases to it.
	The real work is first deciding on the great details of what you need in the book, how long these chapters have to be, and then who's going to write them.
	And then you have to find people and you have to solicit.
	Some will do it for free.
	You can get a lot of free material from public relations firms that will write stuff.
	Oh, of course.
	You have their companies involved.
	And so they're the only guys who make the software radio and they'll write it up.
	By the way, can I just stop you there?
	Now that I think about it, we have to do that in its entirety.
	That's the smartest way to go.
	We just go to all the manufacturers and say, we've chosen you.
	You?
	Yeah.
	And otherwise, it'll be the other guy.
	That sounds good in practice.
	It doesn't necessarily work.
	There's a couple of these operations that won't help you.
	It's like Bunting's Windows.
	Let me think.
	Microsoft is one of them.
	No, but they're not in because it's Linux, so we don't need Microsoft.
	Okay, well then you have to find someone from Linux.
	It's non-trivial to get the work done for free.
	There's a little better shot at it for paying...
	No, no.
	I want a publisher to give us an advance to create the book.
	You're not going to get enough money.
	Really?
	Can we do a Kickstarter?
	Maybe.
	Kickstarter might do it.
	Whatever the case is, it's a good idea for a book.
	I would gladly do it.
	And I think I like the idea of being gimmicky.
	I like the gimmick.
	I got another part to the gimmick.
	It's two volumes bound, and one of them is a hollow book with a raspberry pie inside.
	Well, now you're bringing in complications that publishers will not deal with.
	Alright.
	I'm just trying to make us some dough, bro.
	Yeah, Dobro.
	Dobro.
	Yeah, we'll call it the Dobro.
	Do you think that the earlier discussion we had where I said there might be testing the public with sociological trickery to try to figure out what we'll put up with, how gullible we are and all the rest of it, that this may be now also going on in Northern Ireland?
	Have you heard about what's going on there?
	Play part one.
	Well, the sectarian conflict known as the Troubles in Northern Ireland has resurfaced in recent weeks.
	Police have tightened security around Belfast after a failed bomb attack in the city center.
	There are fears of a rise in descendant activity after several years of calm.
	CCTV Crispin and Larger Secton has this report.
	Belfast streets are bustling with shoppers, yet fears for safety linger in the air.
	It's less than a week since two masked men hijacked a car, forcing a man to drive 60 kilos of explosives into a shopping centre car park in the heart of the city.
	The attack was unsuccessful as the bomb failed to detonate, but many here are worried, as this is the first threat on such a scale to be seen in Belfast in years.
	Northern Ireland is at its lowest ebb since the negotiation of the Good Friday Agreement.
	Because what's happening at the moment is, as I said, this extremism is filling this political vacuum and the issue of the past is being used as a surrogate By those who want to dismantle the negotiated deal.
	Security across the city is tight, with increased police checkpoints and safety measures.
	That sounds like they just want to increase some security in Belfast.
	Well, here you have another situation that makes no sense.
	You've got two masked men hijacked a car to drive a bunch of explosives into a mall.
	What?
	I mean, that's just idiotic in itself.
	That's not a great plan, by the way.
	If you want to blow up the mall, this is not a great plan to hijack a car.
	How about renting one?
	Meanwhile, we have a part two which is short here, which is the public's reaction to this is exactly what we get here, or at least the media presents it that way by presenting only the people who say, oh, it's better to be safe than sorry.
	I think it's great to have all this extra security.
	People here are saying that it's been many years since they've seen security checkpoints like this on their way into a shopping centre.
	But traders here are adamant to keep the public safe in this busy period leading up to Christmas.
	And the public seem to welcome it.
	It's necessary and I suppose it's like a message to everybody else.
	You know, there are people causing it out there and, you know, we're saying that, you know, this is what is needed now and this is what has caused, you know, this is what it's leading to now.
	I'd say a few more people will probably go to the out-of-town shopping centers and places like that, but there are certain places you have to go in Belfast, and certain shops can only get in Belfast, so I don't see any problem with people waiting out a little extra time with the security.
	Yeah, well, this is true, but there is some historical context to Belfast specifically, which cannot be ignored, depending on who you're asking.
	I'm not ignoring that, but this sounds as though they're...
	This sounds like...
	You know, like that earlier story where it's like they're trying to incite something or get it.
	You know, things were better when we were having these bombings and let's get it back going again.
	I have the premise.
	I got the premise now.
	Mark Zuckerberg turns out to be a lone wolf al-Qaeda jihadist.
	He blows himself up at Ted, taking out Gates and Tim Cook and all those guys.
	Wait, you're going to do a novel now?
	Is that what this is?
	That's the premise.
	And of course there's no leaders and all the people of these companies, they're like, what?
	And they don't know what to do and then everything just falls apart and then it just burns down.
	Oh, no, I know what it is.
	Because the free food stops at Google, everyone just stops coming in.
	Right?
	Okay.
	This is your premise for the apocalyptic book?
	Well, I'm working on it.
	I'm working on it.
	Then, here's something disturbing.
	How are we on time?
	Okay.
	I don't know exactly how we're on time because I only have half the recording.
	We've got ten minutes and then we're done.
	Yeah.
	This is very, very disturbing.
	Every year in the United States of America, we propagate the fun fairy tale of Santa Claus to our children in multiple ways.
	Some read the Twas the Night Before Christmas book, which is a tradition in my family all through the house.
	Not a creature with stirring, not even a mouse.
	Really?
	Yes.
	Somebody sits down and reads this?
	Yes, and my daughter still wants me to read it.
	And it's fun and it's a tradition and it's nice.
	How much fun is it?
	Well, because I get to sometimes, you know, I put in different words.
	I do the X-rated version from time to time.
	Yeah.
	Then, of course, we have ham radio operators who are morons.
	And there'll be one guy, and he'll pretend to be Santa on the ham radio.
	Ho, ho, ho!
	And then all the kids can gather around their dad's ham radio and talk to Santa, which is pathetic.
	It's just pathetic.
	But the worst part is we have the NORAD defense mechanism.
	Oh yeah, this bothers me too.
	NORAD, of course, is the...
	They're marginalizing NORAD for the benefit of bullcrap.
	NORAD, of course, is the actual outfit that was doing a drill and let the hijacked airplanes crash into buildings.
	Thanks, NORAD! It's run by, I think, a Canadian guy, because it's North America, so I guess it is the United States and Scandinavia.
	And they have...
	So NORAD always tracks Santa and gives him a free pass to fly from the North Pole down to North America, where he starts his venue.
	And, of course, he has to fly all around the world to hand out gifts to children everywhere who have been very nice and are on the nice list.
	This year, if you go to noradsanta.org, they have completely militarized him.
	He gets an escort of F-16 fighter jets.
	And I have a video, of which I have the audio here, of the command center...
	And listen to how militarized this has become.
	I mean, they might as well just put a swastika on his frickin' sleigh.
	Let's go over to the Pentagon now.
	Oh, hold on.
	That's actually...
	I don't want to have that.
	I have the...
	I don't want Brolf set up.
	I want the actual video.
	Oh.
	And this is where everything freezes, of course.
	Why would it work?
	Norad tracks Santa.
	There it is.
	Rethink what the web...
	We now join the crew of the North American Aerospace Defense Command and U.S. Northern Command in the command center as they track Santa on a test flight in preparation for his big journey on December 24th.
	It's a test flight he's doing, John.
	This is just a test.
	Don't worry, kids.
	He's not really coming in.
	It's just a test.
	Ladies and gentlemen, this is Lieutenant General Alain Parent, Deputy Commander NORAD. This will be a test flight for Santa Claus, call sign Big Red One.
	Big Red One!
	He's got a Big Red One in his sleigh, kids!
	Santa will depart the North Pole and head directly for North American airspace.
	We all know that Santa travels faster than starlight, but this is nothing that our technologies can't handle.
	We will now conduct our comms check.
	Sir, intel can confirm that Jack Frost and the Abominable Snowman will not be a threat during the test flight.
	Sir, this is the air domain.
	Airspace is clear from all threats.
	Threats?
	Airspace is clear from all threats.
	Sir, this is Cyber.
	Anti-Grinch viral is up and we will continue to monitor for threats.
	Cyber!
	Anti-Grinch viral is up, John.
	We're all good.
	Sir, land domain here.
	We have verified load-bearing capacity for all rooftops which reindeer will land on.
	Sir, this is Maritime.
	Our ships are standing by, ready to conduct any gift rescue operations if necessary.
	Sir, in the space domain, we have optimal visibility for our satellites to detect Big Red One.
	Sir, this is weather.
	We forecast light snow and low-density cloud cover in higher elevations.
	All those on the line, we can confirm that Santa is airborne at this time.
	He is currently descending to 10,000 feet at a speed of 250 knots.
	Based on flight plans filed with the FAA and NAS Canada, we can confirm this is not a threat to North America.
	It's not a threat!
	Stand down!
	Stand down!
	It's not a threat to North America!
	Give him an escort with the F-16, boys!
	You will recite Big Red One's track from the North Pole.
	Yes, sir.
	Our DSP satellites use infrared sensors to detect heat from missile and booster plumes.
	In 1995, technological advancements were made to ground-based radar systems.
	Hey, kids, did you hear that?
	We gave a promotion for that piece of information in there.
	Hey kids, just so you know.
	The government's at work.
	It's well, well spent money.
	We can track you, even if you're traveling at the speed of starlight.
	Enhance and detection capability of smaller objects, like heat generated from Rudolph's nose.
	Water, space, missile, specifically ground-based radar operators.
	Can you correlate trajectory of Big Red One with what satellite operators are seeing?
	Roger, sir.
	We can confirm our radars are seeing the same sight picture from the ground that satellite operators are seeing from space.
	As you know, sir, for our real-world mission of missile warning, an effective layered defense incorporates a wide range of sensors.
	Yeah, you're paying attention, children.
	Just so you know, duck and cover.
	It's all okay.
	Detect and track missile threats so our national leaders can make decisions on protecting our two nations.
	But Santa is most definitely not a threat.
	Not this year, at least.
	Aegis, are you able to see red one from your position at sea?
	Roger, sir.
	We're using our powerful sea-based computers and radar that are normally used to track and guide weapons to destroy enemy targets.
	Oh!
	Won't somebody please think of the children?
	How long does this go on?
	Another minute.
	Yeah, but they're telling the children about all the great things that they have to kill people with.
	It's unbelievable.
	Ho, ho, ho, homeland!
	Oh, man.
	That is bad.
	Meanwhile, tonight we're launching an Atlas V rocket from Vandenberg Air Force Base.
	Tonight?
	Yep.
	I wish they'd do it during the day.
	Well, it's an Atlas V. Which way is it going to be headed?
	I'm going to read it to you.
	An Atlas V, which would be five, rocket carrying a national security payload.
	Could it?
	What does that even mean?
	What is it, like a whole bunch of Snowden documents?
	A national security payload is scheduled for launch from South Vandenberg Air Force Base late on the evening of December 5th.
	If everything goes according to plan, the rocket will depart Space Launch Complex 3 at 2313 PST during an unspecified launch window.
	Head southward and carry a classified National Reconnaissance Office payload and several small satellites into orbit.
	Going south?
	Yeah.
	That sucks.
	You can't see it then?
	If it was going north, you can see it going over.
	It's pretty cool.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, they're sending up another piece of crap that costs billions of dollars and it's going to probably spy on a Chinese satellite spying on us.
	Yeah, something like that.
	Who knows?
	Could be a guy in it, for all you know.
	I do have a couple last clips before we get out of here.
	Okay.
	I mentioned this on the last show that Amy Goodman should take a job as a speed reader.
	And I got the clip of her speed reading.
	Imagine it goes like this at the meeting.
	Yes, if you start to work for us, I know you're going to get paid minimum wage, but we will mention you at the end of the show.
	on every show.
	We're going to mention your name and then you're going to be on the credit roll.
	And so here's her mentioning.
	This is Democracy Now!
	That does it for the broadcast.
	Democracy Now!
	is produced by Mike Burke, Renee Fels, Aramate, Nermit Jake, Steve Martinez, Sam Akhani, Masoud, Ravi, Karen Dina, Gester, Amy Littlefield, Cassandra Lazare, Messiah Rhodes, Shirena Nidura, Mike Duclifo, Miguel Neguer, Engineer Special.
	Thanks to Becca Staley, Hugh, Julie Crosby, Hugh Grant, Jessica Lee, John Wallach, Vestika Darzen, to our camera crew, John Randolph, Karen Croft, Meadows, Carla DeJesus, I'm Amy Goodman, Thanks so much for joining us.
	Oh, that's how we should do our donation segment.
	She's actually good at that.
	Red 33!
	Red 33!
	Clip Blitz!
	Clip Blitz!
	If you want to play Clip Blitz, here we go.
	This is the last High School USA show.
	I'm going to have to set it up.
	One of the characters went to a party in Amish country where the girls get to do whatever they wanted and they were having sex every which way.
	And they decided the only kind of sex they didn't have is by having a sex change and then having sex again.
	So the girl that was an Amish girl had the sex change.
	The guys decided against it.
	Old widow in my autumn years?
	That's the worst news of all!
	That's right, Brad.
	You got dealt a winning hand.
	Don't fold it.
	Hmm...
	Well, I guess I should go tell her.
	I sure hope she takes it like the man that she now is.
	Brad.
	Miriam, is that really you?
	It sure is.
	Pretty cool, right?
	Yeah.
	Now get on in there.
	I can't wait to take this new hog for a spin.
	Well, here's the thing, Miriam.
	I can't go through with this.
	Because how do I say this delicately?
	I just don't want to.
	Well, I can't say that under the circumstances I'm not a little disappointed.
	But I understand.
	You need to live your boring single-gendered life the way you want to.
	Wow.
	You're the coolest guy in the world.
	Look at you, man.
	You're a real son of a bitch.
	Well, I'm off to find a woman to have sex with me.
	Wish me luck.
	Oh, you'll find one easy.
	There's so many sluts out there.
	And that, ladies and gentlemen, is Fox Network.
	Meanwhile...
	The unmanned probe was launched from a military complex at Si Chang in southwest China.
	Officials at Mission Control say all went according to plan.
	He could be saying, holy crap, that thing's out of control!
	According to Beijing Aerospace Control Center, Chang'e 3 probe has successfully entered Earth's orbit.
	Now I announce Chang'e 3 probe was successfully launched.
	The Jade Rabbit lander is due to reach the moon and touch down in a fortnight.
	It's named after a mythical pet belonging to the goddess of the moon and according to state media it will explore the lunar surface and seek out natural resources.
	China is only the third nation after the United States and the former USSR to send a mission to land on the moon Since beginning its space program a decade ago, China has sent ten astronauts into space and launched an orbiting module called Tiangong-1.
	China is also planning a permanent space station by 2020 and eventually to send astronauts to the moon as well.
	I can't wait until the Chinas land on the moon and there's no flags, no rubble, no nothing.
	They dropped that stuff off in a later mission.
	Mm-hmm.
	China in Egypt.
	The Chinese, nobody's paying attention.
	We're worried sick.
	Mike Rogers is worried sick about Chinese intelligence.
	Meanwhile, they're going to move in on Egypt while we're sitting here with our hands, our feet in the air and thumbs in the water.
	Meanwhile, let's shift focus to the Middle East and China's special envoy for that region, Wu Sikr.
	He's in Egypt, and Egyptian Foreign Minister Nabil Rami, both him and various other Egyptian leaders have exchanged views on China's ties with that country, as well as the Middle East peace process and security in the overall Gulf.
	CCTV correspondent Adil al-Mahrui has more from Cairo.
	Ambassador Wu was keen to spend few hours in Cairo before he heads to Bahrain for the 9th Manama Dialogue.
	That's the second visit for China's special envoy on the Middle East this year.
	At the time Egypt is still undergoing political transition, Wu comes with an assuring message from China.
	China supports the efforts of the Egyptian people for developing their country.
	I expressed congratulations on the constitution to the foreign minister.
	It's a wise effort and it reflects the will of the Egyptian people.
	We look forward to the roadmap reaching its target.
	Yeah!
	I thought we were all in there.
	I thought we had that thing locked down.
	We spend billions a year to...
	We got screwed.
	The Chinese are going to take it over.
	Well, then we should stop sending our money.
	Well, I think we're going to.
	The Chinese are banking on that.
	But if the Chiners get in there, then they've got the...
	What is that?
	The Suez Canal.
	The Suez Canal.
	Yeah.
	Well, you know, the Chinese tried to buy the Panama Canal.
	Oh, they're off.
	The pay part two and you get the kind of the summary.
	China and Egypt have the same foreign policies toward the pressing issues in the Middle East.
	Both have been working to push forward a two-state solution for the Palestinian-Israeli conflict based on the 1967 borders.
	And they support a political solution for the Syrian crisis.
	We've just been on everything.
	Whatever you guys want.
	These guys are the more agreeable of the group.
	We're not agreeable.
	We're out.
	We should be able to get financing from these guys.
	Chinese?
	Yeah.
	Something to get some money from Putin.
	We're the only people that have ever given the guy a break.
	Yeah, and that's true.
	I have one clip that I'd like to play.
	I thought it was very funny.
	If you live in Gitmo Nation East in the UK and you like to Twitter or be on the Facebook, you have to be very careful.
	You know how the laws are there, right?
	You have to be careful.
	Yeah.
	You get thrown in jail for a bad tweet.
	And the BBC's legal correspondent is happy to explain to you exactly how you can avoid jail time and or a fine when you're tweeting or Facebooking.
	Pay attention, slaves!
	Here in the BBC social media hub, the journalists who publish on behalf of the BBC are trained in the law.
	So they understand the law relating to contempt of court.
	They understand the law relating to libel, defamation.
	But how much do you understand about that law?
	Do you realize, for instance, that when you blog or tweet or post on Facebook, What you might regard as a verbal conversation, because it is kind of the modern equivalent of that, is in fact a publication.
	And all the law, both the civil law of defamation on the one hand, and the criminal law relating to contempt of court on the other, applies to that publication in precisely the same way as it would to a book that someone had been working years on, or to a newspaper article.
	Is there precedence for this that I missed somehow?
	This has been an underlying conversation.
	I know that, but he's now coming out and stating it as fact.
	There have been a number of cases.
	I mean, this goes back 20 years when, in Germany, for example, it's illegal to do comparison advertising.
	And so people had started doing it in the early days of the internet.
	And I know some people were busted.
	In Germany, it's also illegal to brazenly show the swastika.
	And so people were busted for that.
	There's been a lot of kind of things creeping up.
	But the libel and the slander and that sort of thing is still...
	Well, it's even better.
	This is the legal correspondent of the BBC, a government organization, who is saying that when you tweet, it is equal to publishing a book.
	And the same laws adhere.
	As a minute of it, he's going to tell you what to do.
	Pay attention, because you don't want to go to jail, slave.
	So what do you do if you want to go online and comment about a big criminal case?
	Well, the first thing, if you don't want to get into trouble, is if you know of a big criminal case that's coming up and you don't want to get into trouble, simply don't blog, tweet, or post.
	But if you are going to...
	Just shut up!
	Just shut up!
	Do be aware of the danger areas.
	Things like commenting about the defendant in a way that might be prejudicial.
	So, for instance, revealing that that person has previous convictions or unpleasant character traits.
	Unpleasant character.
	I hope that this show, I can never travel to England again.
	I'm going to get arrested for this show.
	That's one area that is likely to get you into trouble.
	Commenting about the evidence in a case in a way that might color the jury one way or another.
	Colour the jury.
	Just be aware that any comment of that type, which could be deemed to be prejudicial to the trial, could result in you being preceded against for contempt of court, and it could result in you going to prison.
	Now, in addition to contempt, there are some criminal offences themselves that relate to publication.
	Be aware, for instance, that it is a criminal offence to name the victim of a sexual offence.
	Such victims get lifelong anonymity, and if you do that online, then you will be proceeded against, you will be prosecuted.
	That is an offense that's punishable by fine, but it has been prosecuted very, very recently.
	There you go.
	Just stay off the tweeters, people.
	You don't want to get in trouble.
	Well, on that pathetic note...
	Well, it's not here.
	We still have freedom of speech.
	Yeah, no, here we have a little more leeway.
	I know in Canada they don't have much.
	Well, isn't that part of the empire?
	It's the crown, yes.
	Okay, so we got to go.
	And thank you, Martin J.J., who hopefully is still listening and will remember to send me the beginning of the show, which was not recorded.
	We're so thankful.
	Common Core on Sunday.
	There's more to talk about.
	Tons of interesting emails from y'all.
	Some Agenda 21 stuff.
	Please, no more Fast and Furious.
	No more.
	I do think we should mention that the gas tank is behind the driver.
	I had a very different car in mind as this was unfolding while we were doing the show.
	And now that I realize what kind of automobile this was, it's easy to see how you can get into a wreck and blow up.
	Maybe they had nitrous on board, too.
	I don't know.
	That's doubtful.
	I don't know where that one came from.
	Well, let me give you the conspiracy theory line now is that because of Paul Walker's charity, which is a charity for the Philippines typhoon victims, he found out,
	I swear to God this is the theory, He found out that they were putting medicine, or they were putting abortion stuff into their vaccines and medicine they were shipping over there, and he was going to blow the case wide open, so they had to kill him!
	They had to kill him!
	You know, if there was anything like that going on, I think we would have discovered it before anyone.
	But it's like, it's a 33 degree angle, 33 miles from his house.
	He was 33.
	He did 33 movies.
	No, 32, 33.
	It's like all this 33 stuff.
	And it's this rampant.
	The Illuminati killed him.
	Well, maybe they did.
	You know, but qui bono, who benefits from this?
	The only person benefiting temporarily is Eric Holder for the confusion of the name Fast and Furious.
	Google bomb.
	Yes, a Google bomb.
	And really, the amount of people who are emailing me about this particular case, it's really sad you care so much about an actor.
	It's just sad.
	It's sad.
	At the grand scale of the world and how people are being squeezed to death worldwide, this is the thing you're most obsessed with?
	Sad.
	He was a handsome man, though.
	I'll give you that.
	I liked him in his role.
	Yeah, definitely.
	Alright, everybody.
	Please support us for Sunday's show.
	It'd be nice to feel a little bit more loved.
	You know, we get notes like I noticed that somebody said, oh, use dwalla.com.
	People always got these suggestions.
	PayPal's fine, by the way.
	Yeah.
	Works fine.
	We haven't had any trouble with it.
	Well, besides...
	These other things, they don't let you do donations.
	They don't let you do this.
	You can't do that.
	You have to ship a product.
	I love the guy that says, if you don't take European payment systems, I'm not donating.
	I'm like, dude, as an American, you can't do that.
	You can't have a European bank account.
	You have no idea what you're talking about.
	You have the new European financial systems.
	Like, I don't.
	Just be a freeloader, be a douchebag.
	Fine.
	Our book of the apocalypse is going to save us.
	Ah.
	Coming to you from FEMA Region 6, where I am proudly displaying the flag of Gitmo Nation.
	In the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, plain and simple, screw FEMA. I'm John C. Dvorak.
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