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	They talk about it quite a bit, but the one you want to listen to is the girl on Al Jazeera.
	Yeah.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	And Sunday, September 15, 2013, time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 548.
	This is No Agenda.
	Looking at the puts for the UNG here in the Travis Heights hideout, the capital of the drone star state, Austin Tejas.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm nine dog biscuits over two, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Yeah, spoken like a guy who's on ham radio all the time.
	Nine dog biscuits over two, which means great signal, can't hear you.
	Nice one.
	Doesn't matter because you're not a reporter either.
	Apparently not.
	Did you see this?
	That the Senate now agrees science is in?
	Yeah, people have been sending us a lot of email about this.
	This is the turn for the worst for the entire country.
	And this was predicted.
	I mean, we've talked about there being licenses.
	You did, yes.
	Go ahead.
	Actually, wait, not to toot my own horn because I don't like doing that.
	Well, hold on.
	I'll toot it for you.
	Thank you.
	But even before we began this show, I had written about this.
	In fact, I think I've been commonly saying that once the blogging came in, the whole idea is to screw...
	Thank you.
	That's very good.
	To screw writers.
	Yeah, or just anyone who has something to say.
	And next on that same train station, on the same railway, boom, licensing.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	Licensing for being a journalist.
	So if you had not heard about this, this is the media shield law that we've been following, and I guess it went into committee at the Senate.
	And this has got to be Schumer, right?
	Chuck Schumer.
	And let's see.
	Here we go.
	So the committee approved the overall bill.
	Now, we've discussed this bill, and I put another copy of it in the show notes at 548.nashownotes.com so you can take a look at it.
	Essentially, you can be a covered journalist.
	And, of course, it's just a short hop from covered journalist to journalist.
	And you can be that if you're an employee, an independent contractor, or agent of an entity that disseminates news or information.
	But you have to have been employed for one year within the last 20 weeks or three months within the last five years.
	It's like all these stipulations.
	It's like, you're not an official journalist.
	You can't report on the news.
	You only work in two months.
	Two months.
	You don't count.
	And there's this outfit called, I don't know if you've ever heard of this thing, the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press.
	Are you familiar with this outfit?
	No.
	I'm always finding these things.
	Here we go.
	You can find it at rcfp.org.
	It is a non-profit association dedicated to providing free legal assistance to journalists since 1970.
	I'm quite surprised you're not a member of this, John.
	You being a journalist...
	I'm joining today.
	Why don't you go ahead and take a look at About Us so you can see who's in this fine outfit.
	And it is a who's who of...
	Let's see.
	Let's look at the fellowships.
	Where was the...
	The steering committee.
	That's what you want.
	About Us steering committee.
	So we have Sondra Torrey of USA Today, Pierre Thomas of ABC News.
	We've got Wolf Blitzer of CNN. So this is every single mainstream talking head you can imagine is on the steering committee.
	And here is their response to the Media Shield Law.
	We are pleased to see that the Judiciary Committee passed this bill.
	Andrea Mitchell.
	It goes a long way towards ensuring that reporters will be protected from subpoenas for their confidential information and sources.
	It's not a perfect bill, but it tries to cover a broad array of reporters.
	Next name?
	There's no other really big names.
	That was it.
	While it is not as inclusive as we would like, it is not nearly as limited in that area as previous attempts at a federal shield law have been.
	Okay, final paragraph.
	It still is important that we work with Congress and the administration to make sure journalists' records are not scooped up in broad surveillance programs and that Justice Department attorneys respect the rights of reporters, but today's action is a significant step in the right direction.
	And I would refer all of these talking heads, these big names like Andrea Mitchell, Wolf Blitzer, Who else did we have?
	Pierre Thomas.
	Pierre Thomas, ABC News.
	I say why don't you take a look at the amendment number two of the Constitution, Bill of Rights, that stuff, you might have heard of it.
	Congress shall make no law.
	That's all you need to know.
	You don't even have to go any further.
	This is a law.
	But you know, they're elitist pricks.
	That's why they like it.
	Yeah, then we can...
	No, no, no.
	It's old media trying to keep out new media.
	That's all there is to it.
	Isn't that the same thing?
	Yeah, I guess it is.
	Elitists, yeah.
	They're elitists, and they think that their poop don't stink.
	They own the place.
	Yeah, they own the place.
	But, I mean, this is like, you know that this is only the beginning, and then it'll be covered journalists, and then it'll be licensed journalists.
	I mean, it's incredibly short-sighted.
	You might as well put up a website now.
	Licensejournalist.com.
	Well, we have podcastlicense.com.
	We have that.
	Journalist license.
	Journalist license?
	I don't know if we can get that.
	I don't know something.
	It needs to be jazzy, or it can't be dull.
	Maybe we can just make it a part of www.drunkeuglychicks.com.
	Wait, it was uglydrunkchicks.com.
	Uglydrunkchicks.
	Yeah, but you have to do the www first.
	Which is crazy.
	So yeah, so this is great news for everybody who likes living in a police state, in a Stasi state.
	And there's just, of course, there's no actual journalists who are, that I can tell, fighting this or that see the evil in it.
	No, in fact, all these journalists that seem to be on this list are all talking head kind of meat puppets.
	Yeah.
	I don't see them doing any work.
	Has Glenn Greenwald spoken out against this?
	I don't think he's aware.
	He's too busy writing speeches for other people.
	You know, a lot of people weighed in.
	We were talking about the Jacob Applebaum acceptance speech on behalf of Edward Snowden.
	I'm sorry, Mr.
	Snowden.
	In Germany, for being Whistleblower of the Year.
	I mean, first the Webby's, now Whistleblower of the Year.
	Yes, right there.
	I think they should have the same group do them.
	They can combine the awards, don't you think?
	Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Webby and Whistleblower of the Year Awards.
	Here to present, Kevin Stacey.
	He's always at all of these award shows.
	You notice that?
	Well, he doesn't have anything else to do.
	And anything like web-based, he's there.
	So a lot of people are saying that maybe it wasn't Glenn Greenwald who wrote that speech.
	As you identified, maybe it was the other guy, the Washington Post guy.
	No.
	What's his name again?
	Bill...
	Why would it be him?
	It makes zero sense.
	I don't know.
	He's not butting into everything.
	He's just doing his thing as a paid stooge.
	He's not going to do volunteer work.
	He's a covered journalist, damn it!
	Greenwald's in for doing anything.
	He's all in.
	He's tweeting all the time.
	He just had a tweet today, just before you tweeted.
	Yeah.
	Actual foreign policy expert Andrew Bacevich, that guy we talked about already.
	Yeah.
	New York Times foreign policy expert David Brooks.
	So Salon Magazine apparently does a hit piece on David Brooks, who we've identified as, well, probably an intelligence community member at some level.
	Right.
	Right.
	Because of some of the stuff he says, which is just completely off the wall.
	And it sounds like somebody's agenda.
	So I guess Salon Magazine decided just to go after him as being always wrong.
	Well, remember, Salon has to have some kind of agenda.
	It is financed on an annual basis with $4 million by the president's daddy, who is the chairman of Adobe.
	And he literally puts in the money.
	I think they cost $4 million to run, and they lose $3 million.
	He makes up.
	So they get like a million bucks in advertising.
	I don't understand why they can't make money, to be honest about it.
	It's just as good as half of these places.
	Well, how's the new domain.net doing?
	Is that making money?
	Of course not.
	We need Adobe to help us.
	But that's my point.
	You've got great writers.
	Andrew J. Bachevich writes this column.
	It's called, David Brooks is constantly wrong.
	It takes a lot to be the voice of the New York Times op-ed page, most consistently wrong about the war, so it's a hit piece.
	Right.
	Yeah, no, these things all need money to get going.
	But John, none of this stuff is really making any money.
	Anything that's advertising-based is not really, like The Verge, The Verge is all venture capital.
	Wait until that runs out.
	Let's see if those guys are still around and if their heads are still that big.
	What else is really working?
	When it comes to writing, not much.
	What is really making the money?
	Boing Boing is a hobby site.
	By the way, this reporters committee, I think I have, I pulled their 990.
	This is not a small outfit.
	They got some real money here in this thing.
	Like millions and millions of dollars.
	I was doing a lot of 990 work.
	Give us your 990 research.
	Let's go.
	Well, that'll take us right into the INSA. I don't know if you're ready for that.
	As opposed to what?
	Do we have any lightweight stuff we can start with?
	Did you go out to dinner with your buddies?
	Did you hang out in Austin?
	You know, there's a football game there, and I guess the town goes crazy.
	You find it annoying?
	I know you hate sports.
	I don't hate sports.
	I'm just completely uninterested.
	And no, it's like, no, I really don't notice any of that.
	It might be someone might say, like the gardener, I think, said, hey!
	Did you watch the boxing match?
	No.
	I don't even know what you're talking about.
	It was pay-per-view.
	How are you going to watch it?
	Well, I guess I could have paid to view it, but no.
	60 bucks?
	So did the Longhorns play?
	Is that what you're saying?
	The good old Longhorns.
	Yeah, and how'd they do?
	I believe they lost.
	I think the team is going down the tubes.
	You should know this if you live in that town.
	I don't have to know this at all.
	When somebody says, hey, go horns, and then honk your horn.
	It's completely irrelevant to my life.
	Apparently.
	Mickey did have a naked photo shoot here yesterday.
	That was kind of cool.
	Who was naked?
	There's this androgynous kind of boy-girl thing.
	It was pretty twisted.
	Oh, God!
	Yeah.
	That's pretty twisted.
	I was like...
	Move a little over to the left.
	No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	Don't touch that.
	Mickey showed me the pictures.
	I'm like, ah, I'm turned on by this.
	Yeah, that's the dude.
	Well, that's...
	Okay, what else is there?
	So that is forthcoming, ladies and gentlemen.
	Well, there was a...
	Okay, I got something light.
	Here's a little light thing.
	I don't know if you saw this, but we actually have a jingle for this.
	But I'll play the little media report first, and then I'll play the jingle.
	Anything in the world to drink.
	But when you choose water, you truly are choosing the best thing you can for yourself.
	Mrs.
	Obama picked Watertown, also home to a couple of companies that produce soft drinks, to promote the healthier H2O choice.
	Just drink up.
	Because truly, as I've said before, water is the first and best energy drink.
	To help hype her hydration goals, the First Lady tapped into Eva Longoria's star power.
	We're here to talk about water!
	Students seem impressed with the all-star stop.
	I think it's a good message.
	I mean, drinking water is definitely important for younger people so they can stick with a healthier diet.
	I think it's cool that Michelle Obama and even LaGuardia came to support it, too.
	I feel like now I should drink a lot more water to, you know, kind of stay hydrated, kind of stay fit.
	The best part of waking up is fluoride in my cup.
	This, of course, is why the First Lady is promoting this drink your water.
	You had the wrong jingle at the end.
	It should have been a gunshot.
	I felt like shooting myself.
	I mean, telling people to, whoa, hey, I'm the first lady.
	I got all this influence.
	Let me tell you what we should be doing.
	Drinking water.
	Well, there's a couple things you need to know.
	She is talking about drinking bottled water, and PepsiCo just coincidentally is coming out with their new competing water product.
	Oh, the one that competes with the Coke water?
	Yes, Coke water.
	Yes, correct.
	Coke has, I believe they bought smart water.
	They also have that other water that you see all over the place.
	This is really disgusting.
	Well, here's the thing that really bothered me, is that it is Young and Rubicam, Buck, Ant Food, Nielsen, Proclivity Media, VML, and Core Strategies that handled the research, marketing, messaging, and advertising for the Miss Obama water drive.
	This is not okay.
	She is doing a commercial.
	Yeah, it's totally corrupt.
	There's some stock in it for you, babe.
	You know, it's like, wow.
	I mean, that is not okay.
	She's out there promoting water for soft drink companies, not tap water, not clean tap water, certainly.
	And, oh my God, I'll tell you, in Austin, that's the one thing.
	We have shit water here.
	You know that zero thing is quite good.
	We filter our water.
	Yeah, but what filter are you using?
	I have a...
	A Brita?
	No, I have a Berkey water filter.
	A Berkey?
	Yeah, this is the thing that's advertised on all the survivalist shows.
	God.
	But it's really, it's a huge, like a barrel, like a silver-plated kind of thing, and you put the water in the top and it removes everything, including fluoride, and it takes hours for it to drip all the way down.
	It's really good.
	The best one that I've seen so far is the Zero, it's called.
	No, what's wrong with my Berkey?
	No dissolved solids when you're done.
	No, but the Berkey is not cheap either.
	It's like a couple hundred bucks.
	These are real high-end water filters.
	Let's take a look at this.
	How do you spell this thing?
	B-E-R-K-E-Y, I think?
	Water filter.
	This is the kind of thing Jim Baker sells.
	No, someone else sells them too.
	Oh, your buddy.
	Your buddy there in Austin.
	Yeah, here it is.
	It's the Big Berkey Gravity Water Filter.
	How come you haven't met up with him?
	The Big Berkey Water Filter System Review.
	We not only review it, but we also sell it.
	We also sell it to you.
	You can count on our review.
	Oh, is this a big can-looking thing?
	Yeah.
	It's got a little thing, a little bitty, dinky little piece of crap faucet at the bottom?
	It's a regular faucet.
	Looks like it's going to break off, that thing?
	Yeah, I've had it for over a year.
	It's doing fine.
	It removes fluoride and arsenic?
	Yes.
	It's a good water filter.
	Filters have a 3,000-gallon life?
	Yeah.
	A review we tested, although we sell it too.
	There's other places to get a review, John.
	You don't have to just get it from there.
	It holds three gallons?
	Yeah.
	Takes the dirt out.
	You can pee in this and it'll come out clean.
	I doubt it.
	And I challenge you.
	I challenge this assertion.
	Okay.
	But I don't want to do it in the one we currently use.
	Uh-huh.
	And so typically this is how it goes.
	And then at the end of this little conversation, there would be a code that you could use to go and get a discount on your Berkey water filter.
	Of course.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Let me move on here.
	The INSA, there was a lot of activity on C-SPAN the past couple of days.
	It seems like the intelligence community and Department of Homeland Security all got together and said, you know, these are the days, this is the perfect time for us to talk about, you know, the cyber problems.
	Have a conversation.
	Well, this is a big conversation.
	So the INSA is the Intelligence National Security Alliance.
	And they had their first annual meeting, and you can find them at insaonline.org.
	A non-profit organization that, according to their form 990, has $20 million.
	Not bad for a first time.
	Where did this money come from?
	Well, gee, it's funny you ask, John.
	Let's listen to the opening of the INSA. There we go.
	Good morning, everyone.
	And welcome to...
	I think this, by the way, is Negroponte, who's opening up the whole thing.
	Which Negroponte?
	John Negroponte, who was a former security shill.
	The inaugural INSA IC Summit.
	At INSA, our mission is to serve as a catalyst for public, private, and academic partnerships in order to identify, develop, and promote solutions to the national security challenges confronting the intelligence community.
	I think we can all agree that we have achieved the first part of that mission here at the IC Summit.
	As we've been able to assemble an audience of more than 500 professionals from across the public, private, and academic sectors.
	And here it comes.
	As well as an impressive list of more than 40 panelists and moderators from those same sectors.
	So I want to thank you all for being with us today.
	I want to extend a special thank you to all of our sponsors.
	In particular, I would like to recognize our two host sponsors, Northrop Grumman and Raytheon, for their continued support of our efforts.
	In addition to our host sponsors, I would like to thank Mantech for sponsoring the breakfast.
	Deloitte.
	For sponsoring the registration.
	Deloitte sponsored the registration.
	Wow, that means sponsorship.
	You see, for sponsoring our Speakers Lounge.
	Speakers Lounge.
	BAE Systems for sponsoring our lunch.
	And Social Intelligence and Eagle Ray for sponsoring the morning and afternoon coffee breaks.
	Eagle Ray!
	Without your support, INSA would not be able to put on events such as this one today.
	This guy should just do...
	What?
	Do you remember that we had this clip, we had the guy who was making the argument that the whole Obama, the backstory on Obama was to get rid of Bush and the Lockheed Martin...
	Kind of the Lockheed Martin sector that was dominating politics during the Bush administration.
	Yeah, yes.
	Remember?
	Yeah, yeah, briefly.
	And bring in Grumman and Raytheon and these guys.
	I'm looking over this list that are on the committees, on the steering committees, on the boards.
	There's no Lockheed people to be found anywhere.
	This is an obvious screw job to the West Coast aerospace industry to push the East Coast aerospace industry, which would be Grumman and the boys.
	This is a shillow operation.
	This is a bunch of bull crap.
	I'm looking to see if I can find that clip on Lockheed.
	You probably would have put Lockheed in the title, I'm sure.
	I can't find it.
	My titling stinks.
	It makes searching rather complicated.
	It doesn't matter.
	This is a very interesting conference.
	They not only had the creme de la creme of contractors, but they also had the creme de la creme of speakers.
	Mike Rogers, Dutch Ruppersberger, These two guys are the worst.
	They should be voted out!
	Well, when you hear what they had to say, you will feel even more strongly about this.
	They are the oversight committee for the intelligence community.
	And when you hear, there's no oversight.
	They're all in.
	And they're at this sponsored conference with, I mean, how can you even show your face when you have all these names?
	This is the sponsorships.
	Thanks for the lunch.
	Thanks for the speaker's room.
	And these are supposed to be our representatives.
	Oh, and who is there moderating the panel?
	Well, we might as well bring the media in.
	So with that said, I'd like to introduce our first plenary session of the day, The View from the Hill, featuring Congressman Mike Rogers, Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, and Congressman Dutch Ruppersberger, ranking member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, moderating the discussion.
	Is Fran Townsend, CNN National Security Analyst and Executive Vice President of McAndrews and Forbes Holdings.
	And as many of you...
	Did you know that?
	No, I do now.
	I didn't know she was the executive vice president of Forbes Holdings.
	She needs to recuse herself.
	I've heard of them.
	Do you remember, Fran was my predecessor as chairperson of INSA until last December.
	Prior to her time at INSA... She actually ran this outfit.
	There's a lot about Fran we didn't know.
	I didn't know she was running...
	Fran's a mover and a shaker this moment.
	And she's dressed in her hot little sleeveless number.
	Andrew and Forbes Holding is the principal holding company used by private equity investor Ron Perlman.
	Huh.
	That's interesting.
	Revlon.
	Alright, so anyway, so you get the idea there.
	It's Fran.
	Products.
	Products.
	Cosmetics.
	Yeah, Revlon.
	And vehicles.
	What setup is this?
	What vehicles do they have?
	I know about the Revlon.
	I know about the vehicles.
	Here's their subsidiaries.
	Allied Security Holdings, LLC. That's probably the big one that you have to deal with.
	AM General, Deluxe Entertainment Services, Group Inc., M&F Worldwide, Panavision, Revlon Group, Scientific Games Corporation, SEGA Technologies and TransTech Pharma.
	The plot thickens.
	Let's listen in to a little bit of this conversation.
	Here is Congressman Mike Rogers propagating a lie that has not only been discussed on the No Agenda show many times, but is admitted to be a lie, except for some reason no one really remembers what the truth is, and this audience is just all in on it.
	Certainly, Putin is eager to get back in the game of influence around the world, as you've seen unfold.
	And of course, I don't know if you've read his New York Times editorial.
	It's good to get lectured by the guy who invaded South Ossetia not that long ago.
	No, I'm sorry.
	That is incorrect.
	It is a fact that Georgia invaded Russia in that case.
	Is this not true, John?
	Yeah, as all the documents show.
	Yeah, so why is the congressman saying this?
	Well, he wants to say it because we have a scenario, a litany, a script, and that's part of it.
	And so he has to say that.
	Fact, fact, fact.
	On the best podcast in the universe.
	We've got a new fact jingle.
	Okay.
	More from Mike Rogers as he really gets angry about the so-called violations of the NSA. And you're going to start to hear some interesting things as we get two more clips into this that kind of solidifies our theory.
	That the NSA document leaks really were done by a competing agency, and we're pretty sure that's the CIA being the competing agency.
	By the way, no one from...
	And Fran, we've always, not only worked for the, she's admittedly was an employee of the CIA, and we believe she probably still has good contacts.
	Here's Mike getting really angry about these so-called violations.
	By the way, throughout this entire conference, every speaker, and it was hours and hours of stuff, every speaker would talk about Snowden saying, by the way, he's no whistleblower.
	They would all have to say that.
	Which means the court has found some.
	The Intelligence Committee found some.
	And here's the other problem.
	We used such specific language in describing these events.
	Every time it came out, people said, well, that's a privacy violation.
	It says it's a violation.
	No.
	Absolutely wrong.
	They weren't privacy violations.
	Some of them were technical violations.
	A technical violation, Josh.
	To use the word violation, that's even wrong.
	It's just that the technology changes.
	Everybody knows about internet protocols.
	When something changes...
	There's going to be a little glitch in the system to catch up.
	Oh, a little glitch in the system.
	If you were like a citizen and your speedometer's not working quite right and you go a few miles over the speed limit, that's a glitch?
	It's just a glitch.
	Oh, you can go, sir.
	I should have tried.
	I got nailed on the way to Marfa.
	I got pulled over.
	First speeding ticket in 25 years.
	How fast were you going?
	At 94.
	So it's an 80 mile an hour zone, and this is 300 miles of road.
	And this is the first time we've taken Mickey's car on a big trip, so I'm setting the cruise control.
	And you know how, because there's hills.
	You were going 94?
	Yes.
	Just on cruise control?
	Yeah.
	And just bombing along?
	Yeah.
	On a California road, you'd be bumped off the road by a rut.
	Oh, no.
	No, these are Texas roads, friend.
	Son, these are good roads we got here.
	So, there's mountains in this area.
	I mean, there are actual mountains, whatever they're called.
	I call them the Texas mountains.
	And there's this magic spot, if you're doing, like, exactly 80 on the cruise control, for some reason, when it went up the hill, it would downshift and it would, you know, like, over-rev, like, 4,000 RPM. So, I'm like, well, if I do it slower, it doesn't do that.
	But if I do it faster, then it also doesn't over-rev.
	So, I'm just like, oh, 94 is the perfect speed.
	And some good old boy, he got me.
	Did he call you Blondie?
	No, but he had his hands and his thumbs in his belt, you know?
	He was doing that thing.
	Yeah, we clocked you on radar doing 94 miles an hour.
	Yeah, so anyway, 248 fucking dollars.
	For this ticket, for 14 miles over speed limit.
	It wasn't just regular dollars?
	Yeah, exactly.
	All right, more...
	Yeah, so this is...
	Anytime Internet Protocol...
	We all know Internet Protocol, he says.
	You know, something changes.
	You get glitches in the system.
	The technology changes.
	Everybody knows about Internet Protocols.
	When something changes...
	Everybody knows.
	Everybody...
	Science is in.
	There's going to be a little glitch in the system to catch up.
	It's like the Matrix, just a little glitch in the system to catch up.
	Right, that's a technical problem, not a privacy problem.
	Oh!
	I'm sorry, it's a technical problem, not a privacy problem.
	Those are listed in there.
	The newspaper takes it and says, aha, let's describe this as a privacy violation.
	2,796 or whatever they were saying.
	Most of those, this is where, get my blood pressure up on these.
	Think of this.
	As a matter of fact, Americans should be mad about this for all the wrong reasons that they're mad about it now.
	This is a weird sentence that I'd want to deconstruct.
	Americans should be mad about it for all the wrong reasons they're mad about it now.
	What is he trying to say?
	He's an idiot.
	Listen again.
	Most of those, this is what, get my blood pressure up on me.
	Think of this.
	As a matter of fact, Americans should be mad about this for all the wrong reasons that they're mad about it now.
	Whatever.
	Most of those violations that were reported were because there was lawful intercept of bad guys overseas.
	Bad guys!
	Write it down.
	Bad guys overseas.
	Lawful intercepts of bad guys.
	Bad guys overseas.
	Legitimately identified, legitimate targets, reasonable suspicion, all of that was found.
	Now, in the modern day of communication, you really don't know where that person is with that particular device.
	Really?
	In the modern day of communication, we don't really know where that particular person is with that particular device.
	Oh, excuse me, sir.
	Bullshit!
	At any time, right?
	And guess what?
	You can be a U.S. So he's been pitched something by the Silicon Valley guys because he's doing that right thing at the end of the sentence, right?
	Right?
	Person for a temporary period of time being somewhere else by using U.S. networks.
	That's a confusing thing for a guy who's trying to catch a bad guy, right?
	We all have legal implications on if somebody uses a U.S. network, even if they're a foreign person in a foreign place.
	Alright, so I want to point out again, this is one of the guys who has oversight on the intelligence community.
	Oversight, as a representative of the people.
	And here it comes.
	Listen carefully to what he says here.
	So part of the problem was, we were actually too good, too aggressive in our oversight, and we documented it, and we talk about it with leadership in order to try to fix it.
	They stole that slide deck and put it...
	Oh, did you hear it?
	Did you hear it?
	Yeah.
	What did he say?
	They.
	They stole that slide deck.
	So part of the problem was we were actually too good, too aggressive in our oversight, and we documented it, and we talk about it with leadership in order to try to fix it.
	They stole that slide deck and put it out there and said, oh my God, we caught them doing something horribly wrong.
	We should dismantle the National Security Agency.
	I am really worried about where we're going here, and this growing sense of isolationism is concerning to me.
	There you go.
	This, to me, is him saying the CIA stole the slide deck, and they're trying to get rid of the NSA. Yeah.
	He might actually be saying that.
	I think it's exactly what he's saying.
	And by the way, what's funny about this is that, generally speaking, the Republican Party is the one who is isolationist.
	And he's a Republican.
	Is he a Republican or Democrat?
	No, he's a Republican.
	The other guy, the Rupertsberger guy.
	Yeah, Dutch is the Democrat.
	Alright.
	So this guy is a bad...
	These are two bad guys.
	Yeah.
	You know what, John?
	Just call me back for a second if you don't mind.
	It's not a violation.
	It's just a technical glitch.
	I'm going to call you back in it right now.
	It's not a violation.
	Don't worry.
	It's just a technical glitch.
	There's no real problem.
	I'll play the rest of this clip while he's reconnecting here.
	And if we don't get ourselves right, if we don't stop beating Americans up for being Americans, we're going to be in a lot of trouble when it comes to providing our intelligence services the tools that they need to protect this country.
	Alright.
	So then there's this whole thing about how he has to have the FBI involved.
	I'm going to leave that for what it is because I want to move through this a little bit.
	But he already prefaces whatever you hear about the NSA sharing intelligence with the Israelis.
	It's not true!
	When you hear it, I'm going to ask you all to be skeptical.
	Skeptical!
	This notion that the agency is collecting on U.S. persons and giving it to any foreign intelligence agency in the way it was described is completely wrong.
	Wrong!
	Yeah, no, they do a better job than what was described.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Exactly.
	This notion that the agency is collecting on U.S. persons and giving it to any foreign intelligence agency in the way it was described is completely wrong.
	Wrong.
	That's not what is happening.
	No?
	I can't go into a lot of other details.
	No, no, no.
	You're stepping on it.
	You're stepping on it.
	Oh, sorry.
	It's happening.
	I can't go into a lot of other detail, but I can guarantee you the privacy of Americans.
	Trust me.
	He's like, that's not what's going on.
	Now, I can't tell you what is going on because that's secret.
	Because, you know, that could hurt the national security if I told you that.
	You're full of crap.
	Full of crap.
	But who's even full of more crap is this Dutch Ruppersberger.
	This guy is a real piece of work.
	He is Mr.
	Talking Point.
	You drop a penny in this guy and he just goes on forever.
	That is dangerous.
	And so now you've got folks with European papers, you've got folks with maybe American papers who are trained.
	They have been further radicalized.
	This is still Rogers.
	He's about to hand off to Dutch and it gets really funny.
	And guess what?
	When this is over, whatever it looks like when it's over, they're going home.
	Hold on a second.
	Are they supposed to guess?
	Yes, everyone has a pad of paper in the audience.
	That is dangerous.
	And so now that you've got folks with European papers, you've got folks with maybe American papers who are trained, they have been further radicalized.
	Radicalized!
	This is a big theme!
	And guess what?
	When this is over...
	Guess what?
	Are they supposed to guess?
	Shut up.
	It seems like a 12-year-old.
	Be quiet.
	They're going home.
	And Al-Qaeda knows who they are.
	They know that they are a new avenue for providing strikes.
	So I think what the commissioner is talking about is the dynamic of the threat changed.
	You don't have to look for the big event flying a plane into a building.
	They'd like to do that too.
	But we also have to now worry about those smaller knockoff events.
	Okay, so this is the setup.
	So he's now gone through all of the...
	The NSA is great.
	The CIA stole our decks and made us look like dicks.
	Stole our decks, made us look like dicks.
	And now he's saying, oh, you know, now we have the smaller stuff.
	Al-Qaeda is radicalizing children over here.
	And they even have American nationality.
	And they're not looking for big 9-11 type events, although they'll take it, but they're doing smaller stuff.
	Get ready, Dutch.
	And, you know, it's...
	I'm equally concerned, and I do think their threat is greater in that regard.
	I agree with Mike.
	I think the real focus on what my concern is, and I think a lot of us, Mike, you and I have had this conversation, is the lone wolf.
	The lone wolf!
	I love this guy.
	You hear that?
	The lone wolf.
	It's not a wolf.
	It's a wolf.
	No, it's a wolf.
	What my concern is, and I think a lot of us and Mikey and I have had this conversation, is the lone wolf.
	I think I'll kind of realize.
	It's the lone wolf.
	Hey everybody, I'm Wolf Blitzer.
	That we are very sophisticated in our allies in being able to find a major attack.
	Okay.
	So they're attempting more out of Yemen, I think, than any other area.
	Yeah, Yemen.
	Focusing on the United States and having individuals that are under the radar.
	Under the radar.
	Not using phones.
	Not doing things where we can pick things up.
	They don't use phones.
	And that's, by the way, why it's so important.
	And radio.
	The intelligence community to work with state and local also.
	A team approach.
	Get as much information as you can.
	Anything that looks unusual out there.
	But this is what I'm concerned about.
	We had a couple of those attempts.
	We were lucky that some of those did not occur.
	But it's a serious world.
	And now I think you can't misjudge how many people are helping Al-Qaeda and funding them.
	You have some very smart people that are part of the organization.
	You have doctors that are trying to research and they're putting plastic bombs in individuals so that they can go through the airports.
	Hello, 2012 calling. - I think.
	Are you kidding me?
	It gets better.
	He keeps going.
	So this is very serious.
	Now, we've been talking a lot today about Syria and about terrorism, but let's not lose sight of the cyber attacks.
	And how serious it is not only to our country on what we're being lost in money, but more importantly, how these attacks can affect us here in this country.
	Destructive attacks.
	It has been alleged, or media reported, I can't say it directly, but I know what it is, that Iran...
	Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
	What did he say?
	It has been alleged, but media reported, I can't say it, but I know what it is.
	I can't say it directly, but I know what it is.
	That Iran knocked out Aramco, the largest oil company for Saudi Arabia.
	Dude, that was on Infowars.com.
	Knocked out 30,000 computers.
	When Russia, as reported in the media, went to attack Georgia, they cyber-attacked them.
	No!
	Russia did not attack Georgia!
	And he's making it worse.
	He's saying they cyber-attacked them first.
	This is such bullcrap.
	Attacked Georgia.
	They cyber-attacked them.
	They shut down their communication systems.
	And this is very serious, and it really concerns me.
	People say, Dutch, you and Mike are members of the Gang of Eight.
	What keeps you up at night?
	And I'll say, well, spicy Mexican food and, you know, weapons of mass destruction, including what we're talking about with a chemical and cyber.
	And cyber and cyber.
	But what do you think the damages of cyber, John, of cyber from the lone wolves?
	How much money do you think it is causing us in three years time from cyber lone wolves?
	What do you think?
	Billions.
	How much?
	Five billion.
	John, this is lone roofs we're talking about here.
	It's not just five billions.
	Wait, really, you should live your life.
	Now, where are we?
	We have a lot of issues that we're dealing with.
	Things are evolving.
	We're very concerned about the cyber issue.
	Cyber.
	Mike and I pulled together.
	We decided we had to do something about our cyber attacks.
	Cyber.
	And we brought in all different groups.
	We brought the HLU. You want to have another guest before he gives you the answer?
	You're still sticking with three years, five billion?
	Ten billion.
	Ten billion, three years.
	Tell me, write it down.
	Okay.
	Am I low?
	You're low.
	You're low.
	The business community to try to find a way to deal with the issue of cyber.
	Very important.
	And we have to deal with that issue.
	We're getting attacked, as you know, every single day.
	Cyber Command estimated in the last three years, I think we've lost about $400 billion from trade secrets and information.
	$400 billion in three years.
	$400 billion.
	How do people put up with these guys?
	Well, you said the other day that we need to vote them out.
	This is extremely important.
	These are the people who run the oversight, who are in charge of the budget and of the actions of the National Security Agency.
	These guys have to go.
	If you work for the government, it goes like this, you have to have a little meeting.
	And you go, hey Adam, Rupert's Burger's coming in.
	Oh yeah?
	That idiot?
	That guy, yeah.
	I'm going to run one by him here, see what he does.
	Alright.
	I'm going to tell him that we've lost $400 billion.
	No, wait a minute.
	How are you going to do that, man?
	You're just going to throw that number out there?
	I'm not going to even back it up.
	You're just going to say it?
	He'll bite.
	He'll bite.
	You watch.
	Okay.
	Alright.
	Yeah, no one will ever know.
	They'll all buy it.
	That's what I was saying.
	They'll all buy it.
	$400 billion.
	So he's saying that this is partially...
	I got it here at the end of his clip.
	These two guys need to go.
	And Rupersberger's the dumb one.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	But he's saying it's in...
	Here, hold on a second.
	Information.
	Hold on.
	Let me get the $400 billion quote.
	Trade secrets and information that mostly China, but other countries are forgetting.
	China.
	So you're saying trade secrets and other information.
	Well, yeah.
	Like what?
	If you want to value it that way, you know, yeah.
	I guess this podcast is worth a billion on its own for all the trade secrets and information that the Chinas are taking from it.
	Here, let me see.
	Let me ask a rhetorical question.
	Okay.
	So I have a...
	I take all my blueprints, I load them up in a big truck, and I put them in a boat, ship them to China, give them all the stuff, and say, hey, please make copies of my widget for me.
	They turn around and hack your system to get those very same blueprints, according to Dutch.
	This makes zero sense.
	What kind of name is Dutch anyway?
	Who names a kid Dutch?
	Why don't you just call him Belgian?
	That's a nickname.
	Just call him Belgian.
	Belgian.
	Yeah.
	So this was all very annoying to me.
	And it got worse when I saw the InsaOnline.org.
	And if you look at the membership here, let's see.
	Councils, task forces here about us.
	Leadership.
	Who's the leadership of this outfit?
	Hold on a second.
	Leadership.
	Here we go.
	There's a bunch of hacks who got rousted from the intelligence.
	John Necroponte.
	Detrani.
	Ambassador Joseph R. Detrani.
	All right.
	Charles Allen.
	Suzanne Wilson Hoke.
	I don't know who she is.
	Hold on.
	But the...
	Don't they have like a...
	They have like some kind of council.
	Oh, cyber council.
	Let's look at the cyber council.
	We have to get in on this.
	Well, this is where the money is.
	They've got $20 million a year in income.
	This is a lobbying group, primarily.
	But I just don't understand, how can these two jabronis sit there on a panel with the media shill and media industrial military complex shill, Fran Townsend, With Negroponte.
	And by the way, all the former guys were on C-SPAN this weekend.
	All the former DHS. Everyone's former.
	And they're testifying.
	I mean, they are all lobbyists at this point.
	How can you let lobbyists come in and testify in a Senate hearing?
	No one says anything about this.
	And meanwhile, we're just going to get soaked.
	Soaked, I tell you.
	Going?
	Yeah, I got some stuff from Clapper, too.
	But first, I'd like to say, in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
	In the morning to you, Adam Curry.
	In the morning, all the boots in the ground and the feet in the air and the subs in the water and the people out there and the knights and the dames.
	Yes, and the earls and the dukes and the barons and the baronets and the grand dukes and all the rest of them.
	And to the Belgians.
	And in the morning, too, our human resources in the chat room, noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net.
	Always hanging in there, always happy to give us some free advice.
	And we appreciate them, as well as our artist, Joshua Pettigrew, gave us the artwork for episode 547.
	Great work.
	That was the crazy Bashar al-Assad selling everything sale, which was a great piece of work.
	Noagendaartgenerator.com is where we choose our artwork from.
	We do it right after the show, so it's tough for these artists to anticipate, to get everything done on time.
	It's very, very challenging.
	And we'll actually try and wait 10-15 minutes for any latecomers that come in, but we really do appreciate what you do there.
	And of course, the way this program works is value for value.
	We have no advertising.
	We have no sponsors.
	No one's sponsoring the speaker's room.
	No one's buying the coffee.
	Who's sponsoring registration on today's podcast, John?
	Why, it's North and Bremen.
	And Raytheon.
	So we don't get any of that goodness.
	We don't have a Form 990.
	We pay our taxes.
	We don't need to scam people.
	The fact that it's a non-profit bothers me, too.
	Anyway...
	No, instead we have our listeners, our audience, the real public radio model, unlike the underwriters or advertisers, whatever you want to call it, from NPR. And these are our producers.
	And just like Hollywood, they get credits for the big names at the top for our executive producers and associate executive producers.
	And about three-quarters of the way through the program, we thank everybody else who does not wish to remain anonymous.
	So who is our...
	Executive producer for today's program, John.
	Well, our executive producers are three.
	Scott Andrews came in with, and we're going to actually add this to the donation possibilities.
	666.66 to celebrate our sixth anniversary.
	Wow, it's a super sack of sixes.
	A sack of sixes.
	Super sack.
	Super sack.
	Super Sack, yeah.
	That's what we're going to call it.
	We'll call it Super Sack.
	Super Sack of Sixes.
	Super Sack of Sixes from Barcelona.
	Hey, hold on a second.
	Hoping for executive producer credit because God knows my LinkedIn profile needs something.
	Congrats on your Sack of Sixes.
	And how about a de-douching for icon-changing, hand-holding Catalanx?
	Nice sentiment, wrong action.
	Your future knight of Catalunya, Mac Barcelona.
	Alrighty, yeah.
	I'll give you a de-douching and a karma for that.
	Thank you so much.
	You've been de-douched.
	Buona mañana!
	You've got karma.
	Nice.
	Scott Littler.
	Gracias.
	Yes, gracias.
	Scott Littler in Nashville, Tennessee, $500.
	Dear John and Adam, long-time DB, first-time donor, mega-dittos.
	Wait, is that a Rush Limbaugh thing?
	Very funny.
	I may think Adam is off in the weeds on a few things, trying to explain too many things with an overarching conspiracy theory, but what I appreciate and love about Adam, this is what is Adam, and he is honestly trying to understand what is going on and to do the right things.
	Well, being entertaining is hell, and JCD doesn't quite suck.
	You two are a hell of a team.
	Jingle me, Dr.
	Kiki, shut up already, don't be a denier.
	Italian, shut up, slave, plus karma.
	Hold on, hold on.
	Dr.
	Kiki, don't be a denier.
	Italian, let me try it.
	Shut up already!
	Science!
	Don't be a denier!
	The science is in!
	I am shut up, slave!
	Karma.
	For a quad.
	For a quad.
	Almost.
	Almost good.
	Almost good.
	Came in a little low on the karma one.
	Yeah.
	Please, just karma, if that's all is no longer permitted.
	Executive producers, we go out of our way.
	We do whatever you want, sure.
	I do not want Adam to yell at me.
	No.
	To ground out, we don't yell at anybody.
	Well, actually, you do once in a while.
	I get notes from people who say, don't be so mean to John.
	Oh, I agree with that.
	Really?
	Do you think I'm mean to you?
	Oh, all the time.
	Really?
	Oh, yeah.
	All the time.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It's a father complex thing.
	To round out knowledge perspective, please RSS or read Instapundit from time to time.
	I tweeted JCD a couple more sites that are more or less on my side region of the political-cultural perspective I don't think you all will get.
	I think this is the guy who keeps telling us that global warming is great.
	Is real?
	It's all caused by people farting and cows.
	You could still reject it and all, but from the Greenwald thing, I don't think you know what's really out there.
	Believe me, we cover all sites.
	We know, yeah, we really have no agenda.
	We don't have an agenda.
	We just want to know if we have to wear a coat or swimming trunks in five years.
	That's all we care about.
	Right, and whether we should be in Canada or Texas.
	Yeah.
	It's nice to be heard sometimes when you're just an ordinary schmuck shouting out to the whirlwind.
	Lastly, reading Amity Shally's...
	I can't pronounce her name.
	The Forgotten Man might help illustrate how we're reliving FDR's joke of an economic policy.
	Best wishes.
	Scott, P.S. Could you put my daughter down for eight?
	We got his daughter down for eight.
	Elizabeth Janelle, also the lovely Christina for October 3rd.
	Well, you're going to have to remind us on that.
	Yeah, let me see.
	Minus September 26th.
	Put him on the...
	Well, let me see.
	Eric's been pretty good at this.
	Let me see.
	Yeah, but he's good, but he's still asking a lot for us to remember in advance.
	I'm going to be congratulating everybody today.
	And you'll have to come back at us when it's that time.
	John White out of Jackson, Tennessee.
	3-30-3-33 will be our last executive producer for show 548.
	And Heil, everybody, after listening to your show for almost a year, I've come to realize the truth.
	You guys have convinced me that the mainstream media is in the bag for the government, and everything they say should be taken with a grain of salt.
	However...
	Today it hit me.
	It's not CBS, CNN, Fox, etc.
	that are infiltrated by government agencies like the CIA and the NSA. It's you guys.
	You, John and Adam, are secret government agencies broadcasting brainwashing subliminal messages to literally dozens of Americans every week.
	Twice a week.
	As a loyal American citizen, in addition to my abhorrently high taxes, I am going to donate to the show.
	Living the American bargain and the mac and cheese life.
	Okay.
	All we're doing is preparing you for the inevitable.
	Living the mac and cheese life.
	Mac and cheese.
	By Ayn Rand.
	That's all we're doing.
	Just getting you ready for it.
	Getting you ready.
	Getting you ready.
	Okay.
	what do we got here?
	Uh, John, or RPS, AMP desk media, excuse me, which is their, their motto.
	300 bucks from Spring, Texas, right up the street from you.
	That's right.
	And finally, Dennis Price and Gabby's, let's see what it's called here.
	Gabby something or other.
	Gabby's Gold Rush.
	Yeah, Gabby's Gold Rush.
	He sent us a $200.
	He'll be an associate executive producer along with RPS, which sent in a check.
	And he sent in a check too with a little note.
	John and Adam, I love how you mock media for being scripted, fake, and shallow.
	But how can the average slave...
	Like...
	Okay.
	How can the average...
	He's got this written in...
	It's funny.
	He writes in all caps, big giant letters, and they're all kind of jammed together.
	How can the average slave like me know what to watch and listen to besides the best podcasts in the universe?
	An example is the McLaughlin Group.
	I used to think it was spontaneous, but you say it's scripted.
	No, you don't say.
	No, no, it's long script.
	I expect they would meet to go over...
	Topics for the day, but scripted to me means they practice or rehearse what everyone is going to say.
	Yes.
	I'm hoping you'll devote some time pointing us to places where the average person can go to get semi-objective stories.
	Well, I would say we can do that.
	I think the News Hour on PBS is semi-objective, and I think Democracy Now is semi-objective.
	But I think if you want semi-objective, then you can go to noagendanewsnetwork.com, where we have all kinds of...
	No, he's looking for entertainment.
	Noagendanewsnetwork.com.
	Enough said.
	Entertainment right there, baby.
	Anyway, he says, and this is Gabby's Gold Rush Tours.
	He says if we're in the neighborhood, good for a complimentary Gold Rush Tour.
	So if anybody ever goes to Pine Grove, look up, I think it's Gabby's Gold Rush Tours.com.
	It's a beautiful country up there, and people should visit it if they're in the area.
	And where is this?
	This is in California?
	California.
	Yeah, it's up in the mountains, in the foothills.
	Can you panhandle?
	Oh no, it's not panning for gold, it's not panhandling.
	It's not panning.
	I'm sorry, can you pan?
	I'm so used to panning.
	I can pan right now.
	I think the show stinks today.
	No.
	Alright.
	That would be panning.
	Get it?
	It's a joke.
	See, that's how mean he can be.
	I didn't say a single mean thing.
	Yeah, no, you didn't have to.
	You were mean with your silence.
	So those are our executive producers, associate executive producers for show 548.
	I want to remind everybody to go to Dvorak.org slash NA, channeldvorak.com slash NA. Also, the noagendashow.com has a button you can hit, and noagendanation.com also does.
	We need help for the next show for sure.
	Yeah, we do.
	And we will be thanking our sack of six donors coming up in the thank you segment.
	Everyone who wishes to be mentioned and not remain anonymous.
	Please go to the only place where you can really help us.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. We do have one little PR mention.
	I have to say, the red book, rdbk.net, has revamped once again.
	And looking good.
	This is based on our Red Book.
	This is a website.
	rdbk.net is based on the No Agenda Red Book.
	So here's prediction number six.
	John Watermelon Carey will try to run for president in 2016.
	So these are all predictions that are in our books.
	This is a very slick looking site.
	It's looking good.
	I like it.
	I don't get the points, though.
	What's the points?
	I don't know.
	Sochi Olympic rainbows.
	During the Olympics, many major Western broadcasters will go out of their way to show any naturally occurring rainbow that happens live during the Games.
	The rainbow will be on the front page of the news websites and social medias.
	Well, I don't think we said that, but I like the embellishment.
	Oh, it's a magical rainbow for all the gays of Russia.
	Yes, that's very nice.
	Alright, thank you very much.
	Thank you to our executive producers.
	Thank you.
	Our associate executive producers.
	These are real credits.
	You can put them anywhere where credits are taken.
	Well, not for food stamps.
	But you can certainly put it on your LinkedIn page.
	That's what Scott wanted to do.
	And it does apparently get you a lot more traffic.
	People are very interested in what that is all about.
	And of course, we would like you to always continue to propagate our formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	I'll hold back on some of the C-SPAN stuff so we can mix it up a bit.
	It was just so incredibly annoying to see all of these douchebags.
	And it started on the 9th of September, and it went all the way through yesterday.
	Just session at C-SPAN had nothing but douchebags on.
	You know, I was very disappointed in this week.
	We didn't have our six-week cycle event.
	It should have happened by now.
	We had some things that could have turned into it, but didn't really catch any legs.
	Yeah, that Boston thing, I think, was still suspicious.
	The airport drill.
	Yeah, they do a drill on September 11th, and then they, oh, we didn't know.
	We forgot what day it would be.
	Yeah, and at the Boston airport, right.
	Okay, something was up with that.
	When they had the TSA guy at LAX who quit and then wrote something on his Facebook, he was mad, and he had something in his locker.
	It was all airport-related stuff, though.
	Yeah.
	Surprisingly.
	I do want to do a little side clip here.
	All right.
	As we know, I'm surprised this isn't getting more play worldwide, but these floods in...
	Oh, in Colorado.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	We've had, this is very interesting because the Midwest, first it was up in Calgary, all the Canadians up there, had some of the worst floods in the history of Canada in Calgary.
	And now, this is an entire new system that's coming through, also sucking up a bunch of moisture from the...
	The tropics is just...
	And then the low apparently just stops.
	Hold on one second.
	The low pressure system just seems to be stopped there.
	So it flooded central Colorado.
	A lot of these little towns, these picturesque little towns have been completely wiped out.
	And here's an interesting little story.
	This is the 300 missing in Colorado, and I have a punchline to this.
	With the roads impassable, they stayed in an elementary school that served as a shelter where they heard a little boy cry.
	He just whimpered, I want to go home.
	Around 300 people remain unaccounted for, but that could be due in part to the difficulty in communication.
	Jeff, there are more thunderstorms in the forecast.
	Rick Salinger, thank you.
	The difficulty in communications, hello!
	So, Bad Chad, one of our producers who we stayed with during the Hot Pockets tour, he's an EMT, firefighter type dude, hero.
	So, I've been in contact with him because he's in Boulder, and he says, Adam, I've never seen anything like this in my life.
	It's unbelievable what's going on.
	He's okay.
	His family's safe.
	But essentially, you've got this river separating Boulder.
	No one can get across it.
	Communication.
	Although the actual connectivity stuff is okay.
	Well, my punchline to this was if everybody was a ham operator...
	Yes, that was going to be...
	So on the ham boards, this is...
	It's funny when you read these guys, because they all want to participate and do everything via protocol and work with the emergency services, and the emergency services want no part of these guys.
	It's kind of sad.
	So I would just be like, be my own thing.
	You know, the hams always get into this like, all right, we can do everything according to the EMMS and the system and they're running the protocol and talking.
	Shut up!
	Don't talk!
	I'm in control of the net!
	And then, you know, I think nothing gets accomplished.
	If we just have a bunch of hams like, you know, dude, let's do this!
	Let's rock!
	You know, that would be better.
	Well, it would be better if there was at least some people that could find out where the 300 were.
	Or if the 300 had little portable units and could say, hey, yeah, we're over here, we're fine.
	Well, that would be one way that could actually be helpful.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, it's bad.
	And I find it's almost, you know, you almost would think that it's like a harp thing, the way this is so concentrated in one area.
	Because if you look at the surrounding areas...
	It could not be more night and day difference.
	And I'm not sure.
	Have you looked at weather patterns?
	Do you know how this is taking place?
	How this is happening?
	What the deal is with this?
	They talk about it quite a bit.
	But the one you want to listen to is the girl on Al Jazeera.
	Yeah.
	Mickey came home.
	I can't quite remember what she said, but she explained it well.
	Mickey came home.
	She's like, show me this girl you guys are talking about.
	Uh-huh.
	What's her name?
	Wendy?
	That was not Wendy.
	You'd think her name was Wendy.
	It's funny.
	I hope her name was Wendy.
	She looks like a Wendy to me.
	Well, I do have sad news to report, John.
	Okay.
	Very, very sad news.
	Do you remember this?
	Do you remember this?
	Do you recognize it?
	No, I don't remember it at all.
	Listen carefully.
	month by month, day by day, keeping them cafes living in the day.
	It all started out in Afghanistan.
	Remember now?
	Oh yeah, that guy.
	The Rappin' Jihadi.
	Right, the Rappin' Jihadi.
	Yeah, they killed him.
	About time.
	But he'll be back.
	His own guys killed him.
	Like Mukhtar, although his own guys killed him.
	He probably is dead.
	Yeah, his own guys killed him.
	Not like Mukhtar Mukhtar.
	Can you imagine the guy, you know, he had a $5 million bounty on his head from the FBI. Can you imagine?
	His own guys kill him.
	It's a sad day.
	The day the music died, John.
	But there's a lot of really interesting Al-Qaeda-related news going on.
	Al-Zawahiri, of course, is now on the top of his game.
	There's this outfit site, S-I-T-E, and they translate all the websites.
	This, by itself, I find to be a sketchy organization.
	Yeah, there's a number of them.
	Yeah, but the site guys are the ones that the media always, you have to buy a subscription.
	So, you know, once you're CNN, you buy the subscription to site, you're always going to use them as your official source.
	And so, you know, El Zawahiri apparently no longer doing video, only audio.
	It's no surprise in many ways that Ayman al-Zawahri would release an audio message close to the anniversary of 9-11.
	The Al-Qaeda leaders always like to try to do this.
	They know that this is a time when they get attention and can get the message out to their audience.
	And what he said this time is that Al-Qaeda operatives should land a large strike on America, he said, even if it takes...
	He said that the Boston bombing was an example of that.
	Interesting because in the past he's also talked about lone wolf and small type attacks and al-Qaeda sympathizers and supporters know what they should do.
	But the thrust of his message here and quoting directly from this audio message, not a video message, an audio message, quoting from it, he says...
	We should bleed America economically by provoking it to continue its massive expenditure on its security.
	For the weak point of America is its economy, which has already begun to stagger due to the military and security expenditure.
	He is trying to target the economy by terror attacks that will cause people to spend more money on making sure they're safe.
	So there's a couple things here.
	One, is this a podcast that we can subscribe to through iTunes that he's doing now?
	That is audio-owned?
	Does he just throw up audio?
	Because if it's a podcast, that's kind of cool.
	And I'd like to know what his RSS feed is.
	But the second thing is that the coincidence of this coming together with the Jihadi Terrorism Threat Assessment document...
	Which was released by the same day by the National Security Program, Homeland Security Project.
	This is from the Bipartisan Policy Center, another fine organization in Washington.
	But this organization has Tom Keen and Lee Hamilton, these names you may remember, as members of the 9-11 Commission.
	And they are now promoting this new bipartisan policy center report, and you can only guess what is in it.
	As you so well outlined, the threat 12 years after 9-11 has shifted.
	We must now recognize that individuals who are radicalized on the Internet, often inspired by al-Qaeda's jihadist message, pose a very serious concern in this country.
	While these lone wolves might not be able to kill in mass numbers, as happened in 9-11, what has happened at Fort Hood and Boston show that alienated people can do a lot of damage.
	Can I be considered alienated, John, in any circumstances?
	And online messaging can radicalize these people.
	Really?
	Tell ya.
	Online messaging.
	You could be radicalized.
	We've also got another problem.
	Oh.
	More.
	The fiscal situation in this country is far different than when it was.
	Budget cutbacks, demand that we review exactly how we're spending our money in Homeland Security.
	Is this not exactly the message Al-Zawahiri was giving, John?
	What is this?
	Where did you get all these douchebag clips for one show?
	Because it all happened in...
	It's one...
	I see what you said this earlier.
	There was a douchebag theme.
	Yes!
	C-SPAN had a meeting.
	I think you just got in a milieu.
	This is like ridiculous, these people.
	No, this was...
	They had four different things on C-SPAN that all happened just before or just after 9-11.
	And the whole thing is smaller groups, lone wolf attacks.
	It's going to cost a lot of money.
	Of course, it's all about...
	Oh, my God.
	In fact, I'll just jump around now.
	This is Clapper.
	If you really want to know what it's about, he had a whole session himself.
	So I'd like to touch briefly on, in case you haven't been reading the newspapers lately.
	Oh, hold on a second before you play this clip.
	I'm assuming since it's Clapper, they would have asked him why he lied to Congress and why there has been no action taken.
	Oh, John, John, John, John, John.
	I know you are just saying this in jest.
	No, no, no.
	He has something for you to remember.
	Three current subjects.
	Hold on, let me just roll it back here.
	So I'd like to touch briefly on, in case you haven't been reading the newspapers lately, on three...
	In case you haven't been reading the newspapers lately, you stupid idiots here at the conference listening to me.
	Ha ha, idiots.
	Douchebag.
	...subjects, what I call the three S's.
	Oh, the three S's.
	What could they be, John?
	Service, simplicity, and soup.
	Sequestration, Snowden, and Syria.
	I like yours better.
	Sequestration, Syria, and Snowden.
	And everyone's laughing, by the way.
	They think it's funny.
	And in a sense, each lends itself to representing a piece of this long-term picture, too.
	This guy, Clapper, I know I'm jumping around, but he is such a dick.
	And he lies continuously.
	Here he is on Snowden.
	So let me move on to the second S, Snowden.
	Snowden!
	Just to make the point, I'm not a whistleblower.
	Oh really?
	Have we had a conviction?
	Have we had a court date?
	Have we had a trial?
	But no.
	He is, not just to make the point, not a whistleblower.
	And as loath as I am to...
	As what?
	As loath.
	As loath.
	As loath as he is.
	For what's happened here, which is egregious.
	Egregious!
	I think it's clear that some of the conversations that this has generated, some of the debate, is actually probably needed to happen.
	Perhaps, that's unfortunate, it didn't happen some time ago, but if there's a good side to this, maybe that's it.
	Unfortunately, there is more of this to come.
	Oh, that's interesting.
	He is predicting that there's more of this to come.
	What does he know that we don't know?
	Well, since they supposedly don't know what Snowden took...
	Interesting, isn't it?
	I think he's just blowing smoke.
	Maybe.
	And, of course, I, you know, in my position, obviously very concerned about...
	The impact on not just NSA, because this is an issue for the whole intelligence community.
	It's not just NSA. Okay, so what they're doing is they're implementing something they should have implemented or changed a long time ago, the IRTPA, which is...
	Hold on, I wrote it down here.
	The IRTPA is the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act, Of 2004, which is something that we, of course, we weren't doing the show in 2004, so we kind of missed that one.
	But the way they, this is how you get clearance.
	And, of course, this is not working too well for them, and they're going to change this with another piece of fabulous software.
	Which, of course, you will see in your company soon.
	Our TPA, unfortunately, though, was silent, essentially, on what happens after that, on the periodic reinvestigations, which is a system we use today, every five years.
	And we have way more people who are out of scope with that than we should have.
	Out of scope.
	Are you in scope or out of scope?
	So we've got to change the system, fix it, take advantage of technology so we are enabled to evaluate people continuously, not just periodically.
	What's he talking about?
	Well, he's talking about evaluating people continuously, which means spying on everything they do through the following system.
	Yeah.
	So we're moving ahead with that.
	Longer term, though, I think something we've started called iSight, the IC IT Enterprise, which we had it installed and fully operational today, might have...
	We detected Snowden a lot earlier than we did.
	I cite the IT enterprise.
	This is that bullcrap stuff that someone sold them for a couple billion dollars that's going to make movies of what everyone is doing, and you have to have a whole room full of people looking at the people who are looking at the people.
	We've had a lot of IT guys tell us that none of this works, of course.
	I mean, certainly not on that scale.
	And the final thing I'll play from this a-hole is really the only thing that matters is the money.
	And so he's going to take us through the history of how, you know, oh, they took away all our budgets and everything was frozen and then 9-11 happened.
	And then, of course, we had to get to the most important thing.
	The most important thing.
	What could the most important thing be?
	He'll tell you.
	I remember where I was that day.
	Not only the 11th, but the day after that.
	And we were in a kind of a tough place.
	We needed to reconstitute capabilities that had been cut in the 90s.
	You know, we'd sort of been through this movie before when I served as director of DIA in the early 90s.
	And then, of course, we had to reap the peace dividend occasioned by the demise of the Soviet Union in the fall of the wall.
	And so we essentially reduced the intelligence community by about 22 or 23 percent in the mid to late 90s.
	We closed stations overseas, eliminated analytic offices, lost about a third of our all-source analysts, a quarter of our human collectors.
	Virtually all the SIGINT satellites then on orbit were way past the end of their design life.
	Somehow this doesn't ring true to me.
	The guy is saying that everything shut down.
	We had nothing.
	We had no way to track.
	We basically had tin cans and string.
	And then 9-11 happened.
	We didn't have much in the way of tracking and locating in our inventory to surge and find our attackers.
	And we certainly weren't as connected as a community.
	And we neglected a lot of the basics like power, space, and cooling.
	Ah, there it is.
	Power, space, and cooling.
	Isn't that just the facilities?
	That is the big thing.
	Power, space, and cooling.
	That is Utah.
	Oh!
	Power, space, because I looked it up.
	If you Google power, space, cooling, that is the three factors that, the only three factors that count for data centers.
	That's an interesting little catch.
	Isn't that nice?
	Yeah, that was good.
	That's worth the price of admission to the No Agenda show.
	That's right.
	I don't know what good it does anybody.
	No, I don't know.
	It's one of those things you've got to pay attention to the three S's, the power, space, and cooling, and then the thing that always annoys us that we've never gotten an answer to.
	Our partners overseas, and we certainly have developed capabilities to locate our adversaries.
	To enable us to reach into their sanctuaries, observe, collect, and extract their plans and intent.
	We found UBL. I've never understood why the intelligence community and other elites say UBL when we all say OBL. Code.
	It has to be code.
	I mean, did they get Osama bin Laden or Usama bin Laden?
	Is that a different guy?
	We've asked this question before and have never gotten a satisfactory answer.
	No, no, we've never gotten a satisfactory answer.
	I always wonder, is it Osama they got?
	They killed that guy, maybe.
	I don't know.
	Who's the Osama?
	Anyway.
	Anyway, that is the lying director of national intelligence, Clapper.
	I didn't realize that he was the director of the DIA for a while.
	Yeah, and also something else called NEMA, which is another thing.
	I don't know.
	These guys are all in bed together and all they want is our money.
	Yeah, but the guy is an admitted liar.
	And just let him get away with it.
	Just go ahead and talk about how we got no money.
	We need more money.
	Get rid of the sequestration.
	So important.
	And Syria's going to cyber attack us.
	This is all bullshit.
	Yeah, Syria and there are thousands of hackers they have because they're all so connected.
	Yeah.
	All right, so let's take a look at Syria.
	By the way, I spotted a new potential superstar on CBS. I want to talk a little bit about...
	At first, when I took one look at her, I said, oh, she's a plant, CBS, CIA broadcasting.
	But then she has a British accent, and I looked into her.
	Oh, no.
	MI6? MI5? I don't think so, because I looked at her early work.
	She was a stand host on Sky, and they made her look like she looks like...
	They cut her.
	She had straggly old hair.
	She looked like crap.
	And they gave her a pixie haircut.
	She's gorgeous.
	And what's her name?
	Who are we talking about?
	Her name is Holly Williams, and you have to look up Holly Williams Broadcaster or Holly Williams Sky Network.
	CBS, okay, I'm looking now.
	Otherwise you run into the country western star who steals everything.
	She's got a...
	I don't know if she's gorgeous.
	No, she's...
	The last iteration of her.
	The upgraded version, you mean?
	Yeah, they have really gussied her up.
	Okay, so CBS adds Holly Williams to correspondent ranks.
	Alright, she lives in Turkey.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Alright, okay, good.
	Keep an eye on her.
	She's going to be a winner.
	Do we have a clip from her?
	I do have a clip from her.
	She discussed it.
	This is what she sounds like on the air.
	I was stunned when the British accent came out and I had to do a little research.
	For more on this agreement, we want to bring in Holly Williams in Istanbul, Turkey, and also Elizabeth Palmer, who is in Damascus.
	Holly, I want to start with you.
	What is the opposition reaction to this agreement?
	Well Jeff, the head of Syria's main armed opposition group, General Salim Idris, held a press conference here in Istanbul today and he rejected the framework agreed on by the US and Russia.
	We think that the Russians and the Syrian regime are playing games to waste time and to win time for the criminal regime in Damascus.
	General Idris also said that the opposition would not agree to a ceasefire in order to allow international inspectors to visit Syria's chemical weapons facilities.
	I like her, but is that British?
	It sounds almost Australian, really.
	Hey, I actually don't know what it is.
	Does she have a wiki page with her height?
	I saw her.
	If you see some pictures of her on Sky, they show her standing there.
	She can't be tall.
	Yeah.
	I think she's like 5'6".
	Let me see.
	Holly Williams.
	But I think she presents herself so well on CBS that I think she's got a future.
	Okay.
	So I'm watching this stuff.
	I got the Carrie clip.
	I mean, Carrie...
	The more interesting thing to me is this Kerry heads to Paris little thing I caught.
	I'm thinking he didn't realize why Hillary was always going to Paris.
	And why are they meeting with the Saudis in Paris when he's in the Middle East?
	Well, for the food and for the hairdressers.
	That's what I'm thinking.
	Right?
	Meanwhile, Margaret, Secretary Kerry is not coming home now.
	What's next for him?
	Secretary Kerry will leave Geneva on Sunday.
	He'll travel on to Israel, then to Paris, where he'll meet with the foreign ministers of Saudi Arabia, the UK, and France.
	This is about keeping up international pressure on Russia to follow through, and on Assad to make good on this plan to hand over his chemical weapons.
	Margaret Brennan in Geneva, thank you.
	You've seen Men in Black, right?
	Mm-hmm.
	Now, I'm looking at Carrie, and people have said, oh, Botox.
	No, no, no.
	I think that he's been possessed by one of these aliens, you know, the one that's a shapeshifter?
	That's why he's stretching his face so funny?
	Yes, and he's trying to get out.
	What is wrong with the man's face?
	If you look at his face from just a couple years ago, his nose was pointy, his chin was...
	He looks like...
	Now, here's the reference that's a good one.
	He looks like Odo.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Remember, it's Deep Space Nine.
	Yeah, but it's frightening.
	Yeah, he looks terrible.
	His face is all...
	It's contorted.
	It's contorted.
	I don't know.
	It's not normal.
	You have to admit.
	Something very bad is going on there.
	I think we deserve to know.
	Well, I think they keep these guys drugged.
	Maybe Marie Harf can tell us.
	Do you have a clip?
	I wish.
	I wish.
	No, I do have a clip of the president from his show, his podcast.
	Oh yeah, let's play that, and then I want to play this analysis of Assad from a PBS correspondent.
	You know, Gwen Ifill now has a show, she does Washington Week, which used to be called Washington Week in Review, and so they've given her this show.
	And so she's on two shows now.
	She's the co-host of the News Hour.
	And, you know, she said she's a bomb-a-bot.
	I think it's all a conflict of interest to have her doing any of this stuff.
	But, okay.
	So here's the president's assessment of Assad from his podcast this morning, which the numbers are up instead of the usual 3,200, 6,000-plus views today.
	As I've said for weeks, the international community must respond to this outrage.
	A dictator must not be allowed to gas children in their beds with impunity.
	Oh, won't somebody please think of the children?
	I love how he just writes that stuff.
	He put that in?
	Our clip?
	It's right in his speech?
	Yes, it's right in the podcast.
	A dictator can't gas children in their sleep.
	Please.
	But they can gas them when they're awake?
	Yeah, they can blow them up with missiles and stuff.
	You just can't gas them when they're asleep.
	I know.
	It sounds so much friendlier to do it when they're sleeping.
	So here's this guy with kind of an interesting analysis of Assad.
	I love his description of Assad.
	You wrote a really interesting profile of him.
	He is.
	I mean, he is someone who has been underestimated, you know, since he came into power in 2000.
	He, you know, he puts on this sort of Western suits and he has that mournful mortician's gaze.
	And people just think he's, you know, he can be had.
	And he keeps surprising people.
	And he's really, you know, a master propagandist.
	Very, very shrewd, and he's utterly cynical about this process.
	I've poured through a lot of his interviews, and he says things like, you know, we play a game with the UN, but we don't take it seriously.
	Let's listen really briefly to something he said to Charlie Rose, just a bit of that interview from this week.
	When you have a doctor who cut the leg to prevent the patient from the gangrene, if you have to, we don't call him, but we call him a doctor.
	And I thank you for saving their lives.
	When you have terrorism, you have war.
	So his idea is they're terrorists.
	That's what we're doing.
	That's who we're killing.
	That's who we're gassing.
	This is his brilliant, shrewd circular logic.
	It started out as a youthful protest against...
	Well, that's on PBS. She literally just editorialized to say he said we're gassing terrorists, which he did not say.
	That's crazy.
	Decades of authority and ruled by his family.
	He knows that the way to him to hang on power is to sort of put this as a sectarian war, that if his minority Alawites and the Christians and the Druze lose, they'll be slaughtered.
	So he lets the jihadists out of his own prison.
	He sends these thugs into Sunni areas to rape and pillage and then puts it on YouTube, inviting jihadis in, and then he gets a sectarian civil war.
	So this is how shrewd he is.
	The word terrorist is awful.
	Is that bull crap or what?
	Is that before he has dinner with John F. Carey and Teresa Hines?
	Or after he's driving around Damascus with Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt?
	Which both happened.
	And the guy's a dentist.
	With a lisp.
	Wow.
	See, that's why I'm so happy that on Thursday we played a whole bunch of clips from the interview, because when you take stuff out of context, it's so...
	And this is PBS. This is supposed to be highbrow stuff.
	Who is this guy?
	Who's the guy that's...
	He's some writer for one of the papers, and he did a big profile of Assad, and he found him to be the sinister devil.
	He's smart.
	When he discusses him, he says it was circular logic.
	I don't know what he's talking about.
	Is that like skip logic, only 360 degrees?
	That's exactly what it is.
	And congratulations, John.
	You nailed it.
	You nailed it.
	I did?
	Yes.
	Vladimir Putin's New York Times op-ed written by Ketchum PR. Yeah.
	Yeah, there you go.
	You nailed it before anyone else was talking about this.
	You nailed it.
	Ketchum, since 1996, has been a...
	Of course, they're a part of Omnicom.
	They have, I think, a $26 million billing...
	With $23 million in fees and expenses for its Russian account, as well as $17 million for Gazprom, the state-controlled energy giant.
	And so they helped write, if not write, the entire Vladimir Putin op-ed, as you correctly predicted.
	Good job.
	Thank you.
	And while on that, you sent me this...
	I had an interesting conversation with one of the VPs of another one of these agencies.
	Was this the Edelman thing?
	No, this was from Fleischman.
	And apparently, one of their accounts is...
	That piece I wrote that you cited about where I think all these guys should be voted out of office and they're a bunch of criminals.
	Right.
	Apparently, the Fleischman has Huawei as one of their clients, and apparently one of the big shots in Huawei thinks it was the greatest thing he's ever read.
	Really?
	Yeah, so I said, well, you know, they should probably send in a donation.
	Well, you sent me this thing which I put in the show notes, which is Edelman PR, the sponsored content report.
	Yeah.
	Isn't that cool?
	Oh, my God.
	Actually, this is actually maybe a good time to just talk about this for a second.
	You have to see this.
	You'll find it in the show notes at 548.nashownotes.com under the heading Bogative PR. And let me just bring it up here.
	It's sponsored content.com.
	A broader relationship with the U.S. news media.
	The first in a series of special reports by Steve Rubel.
	And we know Steve Rubel.
	He's been a blogger for a thousand years, hasn't he?
	Yeah, and in fact, it was Steve who personally sent me this note.
	Really?
	Did he know that we were going to ridicule him and his report?
	I don't think he listens to the show.
	No.
	Well, essentially, it's just example after example of NBC News, The Atlantic, Salon, Slate, all doing sponsored content.
	I mean, just one after another.
	Well, why don't you explain to people what sponsored content is specifically?
	I don't think anybody really understands this is going on or what it even means.
	Well, you'll have, for instance, here's USA Today.
	I'm sorry, NBC Today Show.
	Well, this is a very simple example.
	Five tips to de-stress your skin.
	And it is essentially a commercial for a product, which will be the number two or the number one tip.
	And remember the time we play these clips constantly because we spot these sponsored content things and we ridicule them on an individual basis.
	But if you remember the time the Fox guys or the Five were all eating McDonald's burgers.
	Oh, yeah.
	But not just that.
	And raving about them.
	CNN was eating the Taco Bell healthy salad.
	And that's pretty blatant.
	But if you look at some of this stuff, and here's the interesting thing.
	Google, and Matt Cutts is cited in this article, Haircuts, Google is trying to fight this.
	And it's obvious why they want to fight it because Google needs to have a piece of everything.
	So you can't slip something into your blog post.
	Google is actively trying to stop you from doing this sponsored content because then it's not part of their gig.
	Right, they're not making any money.
	Why should they let it go?
	Yeah, so they won't.
	They penalize you for it.
	So this whole internet advertising thing is a Ponzi scheme.
	It's going to come crashing down one day, and there'll be like five guys making money.
	Right, which is why we don't take part.
	Well, not only that, but we would not be able to discuss the things that we discuss and have our advertisers stick around or not be harassed by audience members.
	That's why we have our value for value model.
	I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	We do want to remind people to look at that particular presentation in the show notes.
	It's a great thing to look at.
	You will be flabbergasted by some of the names of what you think are highbrow publications who are being outed here.
	Forbes, what else do we have?
	All of the Gawker media properties, all of them.
	And by the way, one sponsored content, $5,000.
	Did you see that?
	Yeah.
	If you have a whole campaign that runs for like a month, it could be a hundred grand.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	This is the problem.
	The media is completely compromised.
	It's hopeless.
	Yeah.
	There you go.
	Anyway, yeah, that's a great piece.
	Armando Martinez, I want to thank a bunch of people, including, well, I'll start with Ryan Bemrose in Everett, Washington, $134.
	Armando Martinez, $121.21, and he's also, I wish himself a birthday, happy birthday, we've got him on the list.
	He's in Renosa, Mexico.
	Ian Cath in West End, Queensland, $100.
	Radu Pertuck, $88.88 in Gross Isle, Michigan.
	Nice.
	I am Eric M. 83-34 in Cincinnati, Ohio.
	Frank Pugh in Tallahassee, Florida, 75.
	And then we have our...
	Hold on, hold on.
	Now, wait a minute.
	Because you are going to see if we literally broke...
	I decided that it's over.
	This is a new streak.
	If it's done, it's done.
	This can't be a streak.
	No, no.
	This is the challenge.
	To beat the old streak.
	I'll get the dates of the old streak and then we'll calculate how many times in a row somebody has to send in 6969.
	Okay.
	Now what's weird is that we have two donations from Michael Schumacher and it's possible...
	That one of those was the saving grace for Thursday?
	Maybe.
	Okay.
	I think you need to do some work.
	Anyway, so Michael Schumacher came with two 69-69s in a row, and he blames himself for the streak disappearing because this was supposed to come in earlier.
	Oh, okay.
	Okay, so posthumous Swazilnov.
	Is that what you're saying?
	I'm just...
	I don't know.
	I'm just...
	I don't...
	I have no interest in this.
	I'll take it.
	I can't have the...
	I can't believe Swazilnov is done.
	You know, we need our 69 karma, those of us who still perform the act.
	Mack Tank is in with 6969.
	He also is going to be a black knight, I believe.
	Oh, yes.
	I see he has his accounting here, and I see him on the list as a black knight.
	Lovely.
	Michael Greer.
	No, wait a minute.
	He's going to be a baronet.
	Oh, he's gone fast.
	Yeah, he's going to a baronet.
	Oh, okay.
	He already was a black knight.
	Oh, Mack Tank in La Jolla.
	Michael Greer in Shikshini, Pennsylvania.
	Mike, yeah.
	And he even jumped in to Swazilov.
	Cannot be done!
	Kevin Thomas in Smyrna, Georgia.
	I, for one, refuse to accept the retiring of the Swazilov.
	Edward Hines in Jacksonville, Florida.
	And Matthew Mungin, 69, 69, from Maryland.
	He says, JC, did you mention weird date?
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay.
	All right.
	That was a note to myself.
	Hold on.
	69!
	69, dude!
	All right, that's it.
	Okay, Matthew Mungin's...
	One of the groups that sends in checks, they bundle them in one envelope, and you get a whole bunch of them from mostly credit unions.
	Right.
	His was in this bundle.
	It was dated March of 2013.
	Everyone else's dated September, you know, 10th.
	That's that new Swift.
	Something like that.
	So I don't know.
	I wanted to mention, if Monk is still listening to the show, that his bank is some of that stuff here.
	He may not even be alive at this point, March.
	I mean, come on.
	What is this?
	So I got like a three-day...
	He needs to get it in before it breaks the 180-day rule where these checks cannot be cashed.
	Anyway, Jeremy King, 6666.
	These are all 6666.
	He says he was a long-time Boehner.
	Get it?
	Yeah.
	Chad Chenoweth, Aurora, California.
	He's in Gilmore, Texas, by the way.
	We're up the street from you.
	Chad Chenoweth in Aurora, Colorado.
	Norman Lorain in Edmonton, Alberta.
	Stephen Newell in Jacksonville, Florida.
	Now, these are all Saks of Sixes.
	Saks of Sixes.
	So, Jacksonville people need to get together.
	Michael Stadjuhar in Sierra Vista, Arizona.
	Michael Stadjuhar in Brunswick, Georgia.
	Really?
	How does this work?
	Did he move or...
	It's two of these donations from the same guy from two different towns.
	It's magic!
	Michael, let us know what the deal is.
	Roy Pingel in Brooklyn, New York.
	Matthew Lauer in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
	Sam Harrelson in Columbia, South Carolina.
	Wait a minute.
	Are these fake names?
	Like Matt Lauer?
	Oh, Lauer.
	Okay.
	You just pronounced it weird.
	All right.
	Lauer.
	I thought Matt Lauer.
	Could have been Matt Lauer.
	Could have been Matt Lauer.
	Where was I? My spreadsheet did a dipsy-doo and jumped out of here.
	Just go back to Sam Harrelson, Columbia.
	Sam Harrelson in Columbia, South Carolina.
	David Hahn in Birmingham, New South Wales, Australia.
	William Bowman in Port...
	I always forget to look this up.
	Port Heumann.
	Port Who Enemy.
	Okay.
	Port Your Enemy.
	Gerald Gionet in London, Ontario, Canada.
	Port Your Enemy.
	And Jose Riveros in New York City.
	And those are our 66-66 well-wishers.
	Stephen Nelson, Double Nickels on the Diamond, Wheat Ridge, Colorado.
	Brian Curry, your relative in Canel, British Columbia.
	Daniel Sands or Sains in Spring, Texas.
	We're up to the road from you.
	Chris Lewinsky, Sherwood Park, Alberta.
	And finally, Brandon Savoy, parts unknown.
	Mike Westerfield in parts unknown.
	And that'll conclude our donors for show 548.
	And we highly appreciate the Saks of Sixers.
	This is really good.
	This makes us feel good about our upcoming 6th anniversary on October 23rd.
	Twenty-eighth?
	Twenty-seven?
	Twenty-fourth?
	Twenty-fourth?
	You want me to look it up?
	Yeah, you should look it up.
	Six years of the best podcast in the universe that we've been on the air.
	We started back when I was in London and stoned, and John was not buying any of it.
	He wasn't buying what?
	Anything I said.
	Anything.
	No, that's not true.
	Noagendanation.com, webpage not available.
	What?
	It says.
	Really?
	I think Eric's offline, so I can't look up the date.
	Someone in the chat room knows what day it was, I'm sure.
	Noagendanation.com.
	Hey, oops.
	Google Chrome could not connect to Noagendanation.com.
	Try reloading.
	Oh, boy.
	That's not going to work.
	Well, let's go.
	Wait.
	I think you can do archive.
	Just jump to the...
	Jump past the home page.
	No, that sounds like the actual server.
	I find it to work sometimes, not always.
	That sounds like the actual server is down somewhere.
	Well, someone in the chat room, once the delay catches up, will know.
	Anyway, so we have our special donation level, our sacks of sixes, and of course we have Scott, who's our executive producer today, who came in with a super sack of sixes.
	This is highly appreciated, and we'd like to have your support again on Thursday as we continue to watch C-SPAN so you don't have to.
	We parse all of the bits, read the legislation, and give you analysis.
	We're pretty sure you can't get anywhere else.
	And as promised, Scott Littler wants to congratulate his daughter, Elizabeth Jeanette, who turns eight on 11-11.
	And Christina, who celebrates on October 3rd.
	And himself, he will be celebrating on the 26th of September.
	Let us know again when we get close to those dates.
	We'll congratulate your daughters again then, Scott.
	Amado Martinez, he turns 25 today.
	Happy birthday.
	And M.T. says happy...
	Oh, Jensen wishes happy birthday to Haley, who becomes a teenager this week.
	Make sure your teenager is listening to the best podcast in the universe.
	And happy birthday from your friends here at the No Agenda Show.
	It's your birthday, yeah!
	And then we congratulate our Black Knight, Sir McTank.
	Who today becomes a baronet.
	We'll put that in the credits right there in the show notes at 548.nashownotes.com.
	NPR has an interim chief as the...
	Remember the Gary Nell he left?
	That was the guy who...
	What is it?
	He was running...
	Sesame Street.
	Yeah.
	And now he's going to, I think, National Geographic.
	So he left.
	Here's the headline, kind of interesting, because it gives you some insight into the money.
	So NPR, they paid off his salary, and he's leaving early.
	They're also reducing their staff by 10%, because the budget for 2014, get this, so this is NPR, this is radio.
	This is the radio, and this is the syndicate.
	Yes.
	They have investment revenues, they call them, operating and investment revenues, i.e., underwriters and sponsorships, or advertising, call it what you want, of $178 million.
	Huh.
	And this is how they run their business.
	Expenses of $183 million.
	On what?
	What do they spend all this money on?
	Well...
	Oh, that's right.
	They built a big building, a big glass building, and all their equipment is new.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That's unbelievable.
	How can you not make money in radio on $178 million a year?
	How can you not make money?
	It's a mystery.
	And this is not the member stations.
	This is just the programming that they buy and syndicate out to the stations.
	And they produce a few things, I'm sure.
	Yeah, but they buy stuff from American public media and all these kinds of deals.
	Huh.
	Well, that's big dough.
	That's huge dough.
	Well, they should do some sponsored shows.
	Get a hold of Rubell.
	Sponsored content.
	Sponsored content, which I'm sure they already do.
	October 26, 2007.
	That was our first show.
	So all the numbers we threw out there, we didn't hit the 26th?
	No, we had 23, 28, 25, 27.
	Yeah, there you go.
	I don't even know what day it is today.
	It is, let me see, we click on the computer.
	It's the 15th.
	It's the 15th, the Ides of September.
	All right.
	So here's a little twist in the news that's interesting.
	We have a cycle of, you know, cycles are cycles of what they are.
	I thought that this was, and by the way, this is Juan Gonzalez on Democracy Now!
	in the New York City elections.
	I could be, I'm going to start, this guy says, uh, more than anyone, ever.
	And it's really unfortunate because he is an anchor of a major broadcast.
	Yeah, kind of the talking thing is something you want to have down if you're an anchor.
	Yes, and you're going to be on the television, they're going to be looking at you, and somebody like me is going to be ringing bells.
	I just did it.
	So?
	So?
	So, uh...
	This is a story that I think we have to discuss just for a moment, which is the Juan Gonzalez on New York City elections and what is going to happen to New York.
	Hold on one second, John.
	I seem to be missing a clip here.
	I have Juan Gonzalez, too?
	Well, he's not interesting.
	You don't have Juan Gonzalez on NYC elections?
	No.
	It should be right next to it.
	Well, it's not.
	Hold on a second.
	Maybe for some reason they get downloaded.
	Let me double check.
	That's weird.
	We'll set it up.
	It'll take me 30 seconds to find it.
	Alright, so play Juan Gonzalez, too, and you kind of get...
	First of all, the guy who's going to win as a Democrat in New York is going to win the mayor when they run against the Republican who's going to get no votes.
	Apparently, the lead Republican guy who's sponsored by...
	I have the original.
	I have it now.
	I got one.
	The original guy who was sponsored by the Koch brothers got less votes as a Republican in New York than Anthony Weiner did.
	Alright, this is Juan Gonzalez on the New York City elections.
	Well, Juan, the New York City primary just took place, and, well, the results are still up in the air, at least in the Democratic primary, and you've been writing about this in the New York Daily News.
	Yes, but I think the trend is by now pretty obvious.
	What's been happening is that I think that New York City is on the cusp of electing perhaps its most progressive government in the past 50 years.
	That you have on the one hand, what's gotten most of the attention is the mayoral race, where Bill de Blasio is now in the lead and most likely will be the Democratic nominee.
	I think he just fell.
	He's just over the 40 percent threshold in defeating the several other opponents.
	Oh, my God.
	And most likely...
	It's horrible.
	I know.
	I can't ring the bell.
	You wouldn't hear a word he said.
	Do you know what this is?
	This is because he's off script.
	And when guys like this don't have a teleprompter or don't have a script, this happens.
	And it's a programming loop.
	It's a problem.
	And his co-host, Amy there, she should say something about it to him privately after the show.
	Hey, Juan, dude.
	I agree.
	I mean, you and I do this all the time.
	We try and stop each other.
	From doing something stupid, saying, so, uh, well, right.
	But this guy's going, uh, the, uh, the, and the, uh, the.
	And there's a whole other minute of it.
	...runoff, but even if he falls below the 40% threshold as they count 15,000 or so absentee ballots, I think it's likely the other Democratic contenders will unite behind him.
	And de Blasio really ran a very progressive race, focusing in on income inequality in New York City.
	The 47 percent of New Yorkers are at or near the poverty level.
	And talking about the need to rein in all the tax breaks to developers and the business community and increased taxes on the wealthy to pay for a better public education and expanded preschool.
	Sorry, I can't.
	Is the second clip like that as well?
	I think the second clip may be worse.
	Oh, no.
	And he has a lot of double uhs.
	Okay, so let's...
	How much does this guy make?
	A couple million a year?
	Yeah.
	Easy.
	So here's the...
	So...
	New York City's going progressive.
	This is after they had Giuliani and then Bloomberg takes over the place and they clean the town up.
	I'm telling you, we're going right back to hookers.
	New York is going to go back to the old days when Dinkins was running the place.
	It's going to deteriorate like crazy.
	And I'm telling you, hookers.
	We're going to be everywhere in New York.
	Now is the time to get ready to start going.
	And so you had in Brooklyn, in the Bushbrook-Williamsburg area, Antonio Reynoso, a young progressive Latino who beat an old guard party boss, Vito Lopez, who had ruled central North Brooklyn for years. who had ruled central North Brooklyn for years.
	And you had people like the first Mexican-American, looks like to be in city council, Carlos Mechaca.
	Now, I just need to analyze this for a second.
	This ah thing...
	So typically these stop words are used when your brain is thinking about what you're going to say next.
	It feels like he's worried someone is going to interrupt him.
	That's also when people use these types of words, when they want to keep the conversation going, keep the air polluted.
	That's what the Hummers do.
	Yeah, but this may be his version of a Hummer.
	This could be a, there you go, a Gonzales Hummer.
	Maybe.
	I'm not sure.
	I want to listen more for the hooker thing.
	He never mentions the hookers.
	That's the thing I've got out of it.
	The place is going to go back to old-fashioned New York.
	Times Square is going to go back to...
	Why?
	Why?
	What do you mean, why?
	Why is that going to happen?
	Because they're going to...
	First thing that's going to happen is a lot of businesses are going to bail out because they're going to gouge the rich.
	They're going to get...
	It's not that...
	When you work in New York, there's a city income tax.
	It's taxed up the butt.
	It's a lot, yeah.
	They're going to take the progressives every time they come into New York.
	They liberalize everything.
	Oh, you can't go.
	You're rousing those poor working women that are just trying to make a living by being hookers.
	So the hookers come back.
	The peep shows come back.
	The mob gets involved because the labor unions are favored.
	The police union makes it easier for everyone.
	There's more corruption.
	New York does this.
	It goes through these cycles.
	And when the progressives...
	No offense to you progressive listeners, but when they get a hold of New York, it just goes down the tubes fast.
	It gets dirty.
	People are peeing in the streets.
	The old jokes come back.
	The hookers are everywhere.
	I'm going to hound on that point, apparently.
	So get ready, because this is what you're going to get.
	No more of this big daddy Bloomberg stuff.
	Anyway, that's my red book prediction.
	You know, New York is already such an interesting place or what it's become.
	Did you see this video of this guy who jacked his E-ZPass?
	No.
	Okay, so apparently he presented this at maybe DEF CON or something.
	So he jacked his E-ZPass to alert him whenever his RFID was being read.
	Well, cool.
	Isn't it a version of RFID? That's a great...
	Yeah, it is.
	So he has a video of him driving around New York.
	Like every four minutes, this thing is going off.
	You're being read everywhere with your E-ZPass.
	They're tracking your movement with your E-ZPass.
	It's not just at the bridge or the tunnel.
	It's throughout the whole city.
	Oh, I didn't know this.
	Yeah.
	Okay, well that's very easy to solve.
	You buy some lead foil.
	Yeah, right.
	But you can get lead foil.
	And you just take your pass and wrap it in the foil until you need to use it.
	I thought it was pretty interesting.
	You know, it doesn't surprise me.
	No, it doesn't surprise me.
	There's a great couple of videos.
	Of him driving around.
	So in other words, with your easy...
	And the easy pass is different than your typical RFID. It's a little stronger.
	The circuit's a little more sensitive.
	I think it has a battery and a transmitter and stuff, doesn't it?
	No, there's no battery.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	Hmm.
	Wow.
	It's all induction.
	It's got a big, powerful circuit.
	It's looking for anything, and it could be triggered.
	It may be a lot of false positives, because the thing is so sensitive.
	Well, if you look at his video, and of course it's in the show notes, there's these readers around town.
	Now you know what to look for.
	They're almost like little mini handbags, and they're hanging off of light poles.
	And the official response is, oh no, we use this for traffic flow and to see how things are working out and, you know, stuff like that.
	But I would call it tracking.
	It makes sense.
	I would call it just tracking.
	Slave tracking is what I call it.
	Yeah, slave tracking.
	Slave tracking, which is what your iPhone is.
	Your iPhone is a slave tracker.
	Yeah, you can get lead foil as the best bet unless you know how to make a little Faraday cage, which works best.
	But the lead foil...
	It's fine.
	It's great.
	It's cheap.
	Not aluminum foil.
	It has to be lead foil.
	Copper foil would do the same thing, but copper is too expensive.
	Lead foil is cheap.
	Right.
	On the bit message, so bit message, you know, that is the kind of peer-to-peer Bitcoin type of email system.
	And we have, you can do channels.
	So we have this no agenda channel.
	And the No Agenda channel, because of the nature of it, it can be completely anonymous.
	But a lot of producers, who I think normally maybe wouldn't send something, are now putting stuff on there.
	And this showed up.
	This is regarding the TTIP and, of course, my thesis about...
	All of the Syria business really being about the transatlantic trade and investment partnership between the United States and the EU so that we can ship all of our gas over there.
	This is happening with Asia at the same time so we can ship all of our gas over to Japan.
	Handy that Japan is now shutting down all of their nuclear reactors.
	30% of their energy already was coming from a nuclear reactor, so now that will increase for the gas that will be shipping off to them.
	So here's what showed up on the BitMessage channel.
	I thought it was very interesting.
	This guy is obviously a trader, as in trader, as in stocks and bonds, etc., He says, I wanted to check out Adam's theory on Syria and natural gas.
	When I heard the show, the first thing I wondered was, how could I play this in the market?
	That's actually the first thing we wondered.
	Like, how can we play this in the market?
	So the first thing that came to mind was the ticker UNG, which tracks the price of natural gas through the use of futures contracts.
	Now, this is the stuff that you always talk about, John, about the puts and the calls and all this stuff.
	And so he went in and he actually posted some pictures.
	I'll just read it.
	I don't even know exactly what this means, but after hearing Adam's theory, I went to see if there was anything interesting showing up in the option data for UNG. The first thing I checked is something called the strike peg.
	Are you familiar with this term, John, the strike peg?
	Well, the strike peg, I think, has to do with the point where the...
	I think that's either a break-even point or something like that.
	I'm not sure.
	The strike peg is calculated by taking all of the open interest and determining what price the stock would need to be on expiration day in order for the most option contracts to expire worthless.
	Right.
	The idea is that it's likely where the price will land on that expiration.
	Right.
	Okay.
	Can you translate that to normal speak?
	It's the number, it's the, there's an estimated, at some point the option expires.
	When it expires, there's a difference between what the option is worth and the amount of, the price of the stock.
	It's essentially you, if you're going to buy, say you're selling at 20, let's make it a call because it's easier to deal with.
	Say you spent $5 to buy 100 shares at $30 a share.
	The stock has to be at $35 for you to make any money because your $5 is included.
	So it has to get to $35 and then you break even.
	If it goes to $40, you make $5 on your $5 investment or you've doubled your money.
	And I mean, that's why options are so interesting is because you can make three, four, five X your investment.
	But if you don't hear that...
	But if it comes in at 25 bucks, you just...
	You lose everything.
	You lose everything.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	Alright, so he went into this, and he has all these charts, and he says, I found the action most interesting in the January 2015 option, so I dug a little bit deeper.
	Wow!
	166,000 open interest standing out like a sore thumb.
	Maybe that option is just crazy popular.
	Let me look at an hourly chart and he goes further, so I'm going to skip ahead to his analysis.
	All of the action is for the January 2015 $17 put.
	So that's betting on it going down?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	What we do not know is whether or not the major player was buying or selling.
	That's 166,000 of these things.
	Right.
	This is a problem because you can sell.
	The put.
	You can sell the put, which is the same as buying.
	There should be some...
	Where it gets complicated to me is where people are buying and selling puts, buying and selling calls, and then they push them off against each other in such a way that whatever happens, they make money.
	And that's really where the superstars all reside.
	Let me just finish reading what he writes here, because this is very mind-boggling stuff, but this could be huge if we knew...
	Well, let me continue.
	Okay, open interest only tells you what contract is open...
	What we also know is that they did not buy the contracts and then sell to close them.
	If that was happening, the open interest would decrease.
	From experience, I can tell you that the major players do not buy time.
	The major players in the market only sell time, which leads me to believe that this was a massive contract selling event.
	Here it comes.
	The ideal scenario for someone selling this much action would be that UNG would be well over $17 when the expiration comes due January 2015.
	If that happens, the contracts they sold for $45 million in early August would expire worthless and they would simply keep that money.
	What does this mean for UNG stock?
	Well, not wise to simply say that UNG is going to go up to forever from here.
	The short-term market is the trader's domain, so I would not advise anyone to plow their money into UNG. What it does mean is that UNG is extremely likely to be more than $17 come January 2015.
	I'll be parking some of my investments.
	I mean, this guy obviously knows what he's talking about, seriously.
	But I don't know at what level he is.
	I think if you have a Bloomberg terminal, you can determine whether this was a buy or a sell.
	Well, this I don't know.
	Okay, but right now, UNG is at 19.
	So that means it's going down.
	I don't understand anything.
	No, no, I think...
	Can I make money is my question.
	You're not going to make...
	This is your job.
	Hey, John, can I make some dough off of this?
	We can go to the horse track.
	Yeah.
	Whore track?
	And the horse track, by the way, you know, I'm not going to tell my horse joke.
	Forget it.
	No.
	All right, let's take a listen to...
	Let's take just a small hit of the Iraq news.
	Here's the Iraq news.
	New violence erupted today across Iraq and Afghanistan.
	In Bakuba, northeast of Baghdad, a bomb exploded at a Sunni mosque, killing 33 people and wounding at least 45 others.
	The attack continued almost nonstop bloodshed that began in April.
	The U.N. estimates more than 4,000 Iraqis have died since then.
	Well, there you have it.
	That's, you know, they're dying left and right in Iraq.
	Good work.
	I thought, was that war over?
	Have we withdrawn?
	I don't understand.
	Yeah, yeah, no, we're done.
	We got nothing to do with any of it.
	And there's the Afghanistan news, so we can keep up with that.
	Afghanistan news, okay.
	And in Afghanistan, a U.S. consulate came under Taliban attack.
	It happened in the western city of Herat, which had been considered one of the safer areas of the country.
	The militants triggered multiple car bombs, touching off a firefight with security forces.
	No Americans were hurt, but at least four Afghans died and 17 people were wounded.
	Later, U.S. officials said that all consulate personnel had temporarily been moved to Kabul.
	And, of course, we've done such a great job.
	Maybe we should go into Syria.
	We've made a mess everywhere.
	Which is exactly what we want.
	And the president is scheduled to go to Asia in October to go complete the deals.
	I think he's doing a good job.
	Perfect.
	Yeah, we've got nothing to worry about.
	I think we're on easy street.
	We're on easy street.
	How's everything else looking for your October demise of the markets?
	How's that looking?
	Well, if they put Larry Summers in, then I suspect the worst will happen, but we'll see, because now they're starting to push back on the guy.
	Yeah, he seems to be...
	That guy's going to ruin it for everybody.
	He seems to be almost begging to be...
	And isn't there a woman that they're looking at putting in there?
	Yeah, I think the assistant to Bernanke, or the second in command on the Federal Reserve, she's supposed to be pretty talented, and as far as she's concerned, she'll keep the printing presses going.
	I was reading about the auto loans possibly being the next bust.
	But apparently these auto loans, which some of them are now like 100 months or whatever, and they're also being securitized and broken up into pieces.
	And I think auto loans, people are buying more cars, aren't they?
	Don't you mention there's an awful lot of good deals out there on the loans.
	They give you no interest for 60 months and no payments.
	Right.
	I guess.
	I don't know.
	But I think what happens is if your credit score goes, because it's all APR, which means it's adjustable, isn't it?
	Your rate?
	Adjustable something, yeah.
	What does APR stand for?
	It stands for adjustable.
	I thought it was adjustable prime rate, maybe.
	The way I understand some of these loans, and I can't get one, by the way, because they won't give me one.
	What do you do for a living, a podcaster?
	No, sorry, that's not on our list.
	Now, if you worked at McDonald's, yeah, then we'll give you a loan.
	I think if your FICA, your, is it your FICA, your FISA, what are your score?
	FICA. Is that FICA? No.
	Yeah, FICA. If that score goes down, then your interest rate goes up.
	Yeah, something like that.
	It's a scam.
	It's just to take our money.
	Right.
	Let me see.
	I have the note here.
	Just pay cash for everything.
	More than 1.5 million cars sold in August.
	That's a lot of cars, man.
	Pay cash for everything.
	Buy used.
	Yep.
	Podcasters can do that.
	That's what I always say.
	Okay, there's some interesting things happening in Quebec, and I got a nice note from one of our producers up there, and I thought it would be worth having a quick chat about it.
	This is about the new charter that they want, that the, now Quebec, I think, don't they have like, what is the deal with Quebec's government?
	Are they separatist, or they want to be different from...
	No, no, that's died off, more or less.
	There's a bunch of separatists still in Canada, but generally speaking, that's not what the main thing is going on at the moment.
	Okay, so here's the issue.
	Not as long as Alberta's cranking out the money.
	Right.
	Well, this is Quebec.
	Here's the issue they're having.
	There's this charter, I think they call it a charter, and the idea is to prohibit the wearing of religious symbols, but this is meant primarily for headscarves.
	Right, the hajib.
	Yes.
	Prevent that to be worn by anyone in a government position.
	Which also means, I think school teachers, are they government employees in Quebec?
	I would think, yeah.
	Sure.
	So one of our producers clipped actually quite a nice amount of audio from what's going on up north.
	Let me see.
	So here's a quick little intro, I think, of the issue.
	Today, the provincial government has released in broad strokes what it intends, a ban on public sector employees wearing overt religious symbols.
	That would include the hijab, the kippah, the turban, and in some cases, the crucifix.
	So here is the issue.
	I think it's all in the numbers.
	We receive 55,000 immigrants a year, the highest level probably on earth.
	And we broadly accept them in our nation, but they must integrate.
	You change country, you change country.
	This is the core issue, and I think I can speak a little bit to this, having lived and actually grown up in Amsterdam.
	And this was quite a kind of a heated debate I had this morning with Miss Mickey.
	We're talking about this because I asked her, I said point blank, what is your feeling about the scarves that you see in Amsterdam?
	And she says it really bothers her.
	And when you think about it at face value, it's just a piece of clothing, right?
	It doesn't really mean all that much.
	But what I think is interesting is that the conversation is about scarves and crucifixes and other pieces of clothing, but not really about the true issue, which is this huge amount of immigrants coming into countries...
	And I've seen this in the Netherlands.
	I've seen it in Belgium.
	Of course, we know it's happening in Scandinavia.
	And not just a lack of integration, but almost ghettoizing of these cultures in certain spots within these large western cities.
	Right.
	And it's funny because this producer, Devin...
	He has a very, I think, very liberal stance on it, and I'm like, I don't give a crap.
	First of all, I think the scarves are sexy.
	That's just my personal thing.
	But they represent something else.
	They represent the women are second-class citizens in this culture.
	And he says, I don't know if you've got any clips from anyone else in Quebec.
	I don't know.
	The only reason I care is because my Anglophone daughter, I think is a great term, by the way, Anglophone.
	I hadn't heard it, but that's the big term they're using up there now, which means you speak English.
	My Anglophone daughter went to a Francophone daycare and the woman who became like a second mother to her wears a headscarf.
	I am overjoyed knowing that my little girl will always look at a scarf with warmth and affection rather than fear and uncertainty.
	And I'm like, you know, that's a very liberal stance on this.
	And what I've seen is it doesn't work very well.
	You know, now Amsterdam, the majority in the city is Muslim, not integrated with the traditional Dutch culture, I'll just call it that.
	And it's tension.
	It's a powder keg.
	And you get really bad things that happen in these countries.
	And I don't know, I mean, do you have any feeling on this, John, what this would mean for Quebec or in general?
	Well, I don't like, generally speaking, it's a statement to me.
	You see it here in the United States, you see some woman who...
	It's not really even a Muslim thing.
	It was promoted by...
	It's Arab.
	It's an Arab concept, the headscarf.
	Mm-hmm.
	Because the woman is considered to be chattel.
	Slave.
	Okay, so far you're hitting all the positive buttons, yes.
	And I consider it to be like an in-your-face statement because I still remember this one guy...
	Who was discussing this on one of these, probably one of the PBS shows, he said, a Sikh.
	And he had...
	A towel on his head.
	No, this kid was a young kid.
	He moved to the United States, and he cut his hair off, because that's what Sikhs, their hair, is that they let it grow forever and keep it in the turban.
	And he cut his hair off, and his father came over to visit him, and he chewed him out, chewed out the son, and the son said, look, I'm in a different culture.
	This is the way it's done here.
	I'm living here now.
	I can't...
	I'm not sticking to the old, you know, the old ways that were from, you know, parts of northern India.
	And it was like, it's like this tension between modern and traditional.
	And it's like, when you wear the traditional stuff, you're throwing it into people's faces.
	You're saying, we don't, we think, in other words, you're saying to me, you and your culture suck.
	And I'm going to wear this because our old culture, Culture from the 1400s is better than your new sucky culture.
	And I think that's an insult to the public, especially when you change countries.
	I think you change countries.
	If I go and move to Dubai, let's say Saudi Arabia, and I have to wear the dish dash, the outfits or whatever if they let me.
	Or I don't bitch and moan that I can't get a beer.
	Right.
	I mean, oh, this is terrible.
	We have to have protests in the street because they can't get a beer.
	You know, I would just adopt the customs of the country I'm in if I'm moving to it.
	And then when I leave, I'd go back to it or not.
	It doesn't make any difference.
	But if you go in there and just be antagonistic, it doesn't seem like a positive thing.
	Right.
	But do you think that there should be laws against it?
	Like in France, there are laws.
	I mean, this is another issue.
	I mean, this is, I think, is part of the problem.
	Instead of trying to just get people to, you know, to convince them not to do this, to make laws against, I just think, exacerbates the problem.
	I don't know what to do about it.
	Well, I was just curious.
	I mean, this is a hotbed.
	We don't get to talk about Quebec often.
	And we certainly don't have clips from Quebec ever.
	Yeah, no, I don't like the...
	But then again, you know, there's too many elements.
	This is a big sociological issue that is hard to either discuss or make sense of.
	Now, we have this, if you walk in Los Angeles, if you're down there, you know, past West Hollywood, you'll get all the Hasidic Jews with their, you know, the curly Q hair and the hats and everything, which, by the way, I think the hats are cool, too.
	But that doesn't seem to be a problem.
	It seems like in America, this is not such an issue.
	Like, you know, whatever you want to wear, dude.
	You know, fine.
	You know what I mean?
	Or is that just my imagination?
	Am I just living in the fantasy land?
	I think we're pretty open to letting people do their own thing.
	Yeah.
	But integrate.
	It's not like they're not all put into...
	They don't...
	No, that's because there's not enough of them.
	Bring them on!
	Bring them on over here!
	Bring more and then we'll ghettoize them later.
	Yeah.
	Ah, there you go.
	That's a tip from no agenda.
	Bring them in and ghettoize them later.
	Perfect.
	Here's a good story from California talking about the liberals in California.
	Play the illegals get two licenses clip.
	Oh God, yes.
	Governor Jerry Brown announced today that he will sign a bill authorizing illegal immigrants to obtain driver's licenses.
	California would be the 10th state to take that step.
	The state assembly also passed a bill last night that allows undocumented immigrants to become practicing lawyers.
	I can't even become a lawyer.
	I actually laughed out loud.
	That's great.
	Yeah, you're an illegal immigrant in California and you can get past the bar.
	That's great.
	I can't wait.
	At California, I guess they're raising the minimum wage to $10 an hour now.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	This is not going to work out well.
	We're just going to have less service, the way I see it.
	Probably.
	Do you think we're just going to have less people doing stuff?
	Well, that's what the argument is, is that you have to keep the minimum wage low to keep people, I don't know, people should be getting $10 an hour minimum anyway.
	Otherwise, it's just a joke.
	What's the point?
	Got some interesting report here from UT Arlington.
	Headline, Youth More Likely to be Bullied at Schools with Anti-Bullying Programs.
	Oh, there you go.
	I didn't know I could be a bully.
	So, from the executive summary, one possible reason for this is that the students who are victimizing their peers have learned the language from these anti-bullying campaigns and programs.
	This kind of goes to our whole thesis of if you tell someone about the bad things in the medication, they'll want it more.
	Yeah, kind of.
	So they're learning the bullying language from the anti-bullying materials.
	Well, you know, the kids have to learn.
	And by the way, I want to mention something.
	This is a teaser for the Thursday show.
	Tonight is Miss America.
	Oh, that's right.
	And everyone's talking about this girl with the tattoos.
	Is she on?
	She's got a publicist.
	Some girl's got a bunch of tattoos on her side.
	It's got a credo.
	I believe it to be Hannah, by the way.
	But it's a bunch of...
	And she's a shooter, and she shoots a bow and arrow.
	And she actually kind of looks white trashy to me.
	I don't think she has a shot at even getting in the top.
	And I think her legs are a little short.
	She doesn't...
	She's not...
	Believe me, Miss America Diamond doesn't Miss America.
	She doesn't qualify.
	Yeah.
	By the way, ladies and gentlemen, this is what John does.
	I mean, I read legislation.
	This is my...
	I get to do this on a couple...
	I get four times a year.
	Yeah.
	We have these competitions, and I will get clips, and there should be some gems, and I'll bitch and moan about the really...
	The most beautiful girl never wins, because she doesn't put out.
	And I'll have some report back on Thursday, short report.
	But yeah, this woman has...
	It's been getting a lot of publicity.
	What's nice is that she was in the Armed Forces, and she hunts, and she shoots.
	It turns out she's in the National Guard or something.
	Well, that's good, too.
	National Guard, okay.
	Well, that's good enough.
	Good enough for me.
	She hunts with a bow, and she's a good shot, and she's got a bunch of tattoos on her side that say, I got to look her up, but you could read it.
	It's kind of a, what is it?
	Here it is.
	Oh, where are you?
	This is the Teresa.
	Teresa Vale is her name.
	And she's commenting.
	She says, God grant me the courage to change the things I can.
	And what state is she from?
	Where is she from?
	I think she's from Missouri or someplace.
	She's from the Midwest, I believe.
	That's a good question.
	I should know.
	Miss Kansas.
	It's Miss Kansas.
	Oh, okay.
	She has a website that's bullcrap, a blog that just started last December, and she blogs once a month.
	Wait a minute.
	You went and looked at her blog?
	I figured this would come up in the conversation.
	I found it very annoying.
	It bothered me that there was obviously a publicity stunt going on here, and I was trying to track down who might be behind it.
	And I think she just appeared in her boyfriend.
	Alright, so everyone's getting in on this.
	And we have a question from our judge.
	Mr.
	Dvorak, your question for Miss Kansas.
	Yeah.
	Miss Kansas, do you put out?
	Do you put out?
	Sorry.
	God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change.
	Courage to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference.
	Yeah, it's the serenity prayer.
	Yeah, well, it's on the side of her.
	Yeah.
	To maybe make her look thinner.
	Clearly, you know when this is just a Trump operation, is it not?
	This is Miss America.
	No, this is the Trump competitor.
	Oh.
	Miss America is the original old competition.
	Well, this is good because, I mean, this girl will not win, but she's made everyone aware of the competition.
	I wouldn't have known about it otherwise.
	This is great PR. Yeah, but...
	You're doing sponsored content, aren't you?
	I'm getting paid $10,000.
	Okay.
	So anyway, so she's going to be on the show, and I'm sure she's going to be interesting.
	And this is tonight?
	Yeah, it's tonight.
	Tonight's tonight.
	But wait a minute.
	Tonight we have Breaking Bad and Newsroom.
	Oh, not me.
	Not me.
	I'm doing my job tonight.
	You're working tonight.
	I'm working tonight on a crummy competition.
	By the way, did you read the thing that came out on Ace of Spades about Glenn Greenwald?
	Yes.
	In fact, I put these in the show notes, actually.
	This is in regards to Glenn Greenwald possibly writing the acceptance speech for Snowden.
	Go ahead.
	This all dates back to 2006.
	Apparently, if you go on one of the websites where there's a bunch of comments on something he's done, he apparently is writing comments under a bunch of pseudonyms.
	Well, there was a period in 2006...
	The so-called Greenwald sock puppet theory.
	Yes, right.
	Sock puppet.
	And he had magic boyfriends.
	It's kind of funny because he would write...
	Basically, there would be comments on pieces about him under different names like Allison and some other names that were used, but they would all come from his IP address.
	And so he got basically nailed on this.
	And here's what he wrote.
	A new accusation is that I've been engaging in so-called sock puppetry by leaving comments in response to posts that attack me under other names, i.e.
	that I use multiple names to comment and the same comment was left at several blogs by the same IP address under different names.
	Not frequently.
	I leave comments at blogs which criticize or respond to something I have written.
	I always, in every single instance, use my own name when doing so.
	I have never left a single comment at any other blog using any other name than my own, at least not since I began blogging.
	IP addresses signify the internet account one uses, not any one individual.
	Those in the same household have the same IP address.
	In response to the personal attacks that have been oozing forth these last couple of weeks, others left comments responding to them and correcting the factual inaccuracies, as have I. In each case, when I did, I have used my own name.
	So this is his magic boyfriends.
	He has four or five of them in the house.
	He might.
	He very well might.
	But you can't overlook that part of him.
	And by the way, I've done this myself.
	No!
	Oh yeah, of course.
	I think you're famous for doing it on your own wiki page.
	Well, that was different.
	I didn't say that it wasn't me.
	I just didn't register.
	I just went and changed stuff not knowing that you couldn't change your own wiki page.
	Which I think is the dumbest thing ever.
	That was actually a piece on the newsroom that was kind of funny.
	They slammed Wikipedia about that.
	No, that was in 2005.
	But then I was accused of changing history to make myself look better.
	That was the part that was fucked up.
	I'm like, what?
	Yeah, it had to do with the invention of the podcast.
	Yeah, like I changed it to, you know, like I'm Thomas Edison trying to fuck Nikola Tesla or something.
	I invented AC. That's right.
	Who needs DC? Nice.
	Yeah, but I've certainly gone into the Twitch chat room through a proxy under assumed names and have been busted for it.
	Yeah, they catch you real fast.
	Oh yeah, those guys are good.
	They got Nazis over there.
	It's because of what you post.
	What do you mean?
	It's so easy to find you in there.
	Are you on today?
	Leo should be having sex with the woman.
	No, I think I said, when is Leo having sex with the woman?
	Science!
	Are you there today?
	Yeah, I am.
	Oh, great.
	I'll ask about that.
	No, don't.
	I have the top.
	I have the top.
	I cut one of those 15-second commercials.
	Oh, good.
	For Burger King, I believe.
	And it came after a Cialis commercial, and it just seemed like an odd...
	Good combo.
	It was a Cialis commercial, and then a commercial where a woman says, I don't know why Bill or Jim or whatever her partner's name doesn't take me south of the equator.
	It's like a phrase.
	And I'm thinking, wait a minute, this has got sexual overtones.
	Sounds like it.
	So play this and tell me what you think.
	If you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, or if you have any allergic reactions, such as rash, hives, swelling of the lips, tongue, or throat, or difficulty breathing or swallowing, stop taking Cialis and get medical help right away.
	Ask your doctor about Cialis for daily use in a 30-tablet free trial.
	Crispy white meat chicken with hot and spicy buffalo sauce.
	Did you just take my taste buds to the equator?
	Rick never takes me to the equator.
	Try the new buffalo chicken strip small combo meal, just $4.99.
	Burger King, where taste is king.
	I said something else.
	He never takes me to the equator.
	Yeah, she says, Rick never takes me to the equator.
	That's not quite the same as South of the Border.
	No, but it's...
	It depends on where your equator is, exactly.
	Rick always takes me south of the border.
	But, you know, the voice is like, oh, yeah, it just sounds so sexy.
	It's like a 15-second weird commercial.
	What is the point of saying that Rick doesn't take her to the equator?
	It just sounds like some innuendo.
	Somebody slipped that one through.
	It's totally innuendo.
	Of course it is.
	Yeah, somebody slipped it through and nobody caught it.
	I did another one of those.
	I did a, what was it, Kellogg's audition.
	Oh!
	Oh!
	I already sent it in.
	I'm not going to get it.
	Oh, can we hear it?
	Do you want to hear it?
	Yeah.
	All right.
	Okay, so...
	Set it up for ourselves.
	Who it's for?
	Okay, this is for Kellogg's Master Brand.
	The Master Brand is the company, Kellogg's.
	Brand?
	Master Brands.
	Oh, Brands.
	They own Kellogg's.
	Here, I have the instruction.
	Hold on.
	This is so we can make money.
	Specs.
	We are looking for a man roughly around 30 years old.
	We want a very natural, laid-back read.
	His talent...
	This talent should...
	Hey, man!
	That's what I was thinking.
	This talent should not sound like an announcer.
	They always say that.
	Oh, man.
	Yeah, they always say that, but then that's not what they bought.
	And then when you hear the guy, it's an announcer.
	Adam Curry, Vox Agency, Master Brand Kellogg's.
	You can hear I have a cold.
	It's even worse.
	Every morning in every corner of the world, the golden sun cracks the horizon, unleashing in a brand new day.
	And as each of us stirs from our slumber, somewhere between half asleep and half awake lies the question, what will the day ahead bring?
	Will it be brimming with promise and optimism?
	That's why Kellogg's is there every morning we rise.
	With a bowl of delicious, sunshine-filled possibilities.
	The goodness of grains.
	To open our minds, warm our hearts, and to help make every day a brighter one.
	How gay is this cereal?
	I don't want to eat that.
	We rise with the sun every morning.
	And with Kellogg's, it's our chance to shine.
	Alright, what are my chances of getting this gig?
	I liked it.
	I thought your read was quite good.
	There's a little spotty spot in the early part.
	I thought you were sounding too much like Adam Curry, but the rest of it I thought was slick.
	I would hire you.
	Well, that's appreciated, John.
	And we've hired you.
	You know, you have been hired by the Dvorak Horowitz Unplugged show.
	Yes, that's true.
	As the disclaimer guy.
	Yes, I do the disclaimer and I've received nothing, not even a stock tip.
	You cheap asses.
	Well, I gotta give you a stock tip.
	Stay out of the market.
	Yeah, thank you.
	Hey, I have an end of show clip for today.
	It's a compilage done by one of our producers.
	Producer is Jim Savistak.
	And he created a little song compilation by two and a half minutes of Ladyhawks.
	It's titled Ladyhawks.
	So it's all the women in government who want to kill people in Syria.
	Nice, we need more of these.
	This is a good one.
	He said he was inspired by producer Glenn who did that other nice medley.
	That will be our end of show clip and we will return on Thursday with another episode of the best podcast in the universe.
	Remember us at dvorak.org slash na and we'll of course have our Miss America podcast Report.
	Reports, and probably some other stuff that's, like, really important.
	But maybe not as important as that.
	Well, who knows.
	Coming to you from Austin in the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Talk to you again on Thursday right here on No Agenda.
	President Obama did not draw the red line.
	Humanity threw it.
	Not only has our president drawn a line, a red line, but we in the Senate, we did so.
	I have no doubt that chemical weapons have been used.
	They unleashed hellish chaos and terror on a massive scale.
	This action happened, but Assad did it.
	Every time chemical weapons are moved, puts Americans at risk.
	There is no moral equivalent.
	They unleashed hellish chaos.
	This action happened, but Assad did it.
	We should agree that there are lines in this world that cannot be crossed and limits on murderous behavior, especially with weapons of mass destruction.
	We're working hard.
	We're working hard.
	Hundreds of children were killed.
	You can look at the children.
	You can look at the adults.
	More than 400 of them children.
	In response to Bashar al-Assad's barbaric use of chemical weapons against the Syrian people.
	President Obama has decided that it is in the national security interest of the United States to conduct limited military strikes against the Syrian regime.
	And I will support the targeted effort.
	Wait just a second.
	Excuse me.
	Excuse me.
	The President of the United States cannot allow this to go unchecked.
	Cannot allow this to go unchecked.
	Any military action will be a meaningful, time-limited response to deter the regime from using chemical weapons again.
	We came, we saw, we died.
	We'll be here.
	They have tons and tons and tons of devastation.
	Hundreds of children unleash hellish chaos.
	That's one hot milk, baby.
	Adios, mofo.
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