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	Holy crap!
	You mean they even believe that stupid old book?
	Oh my god, oh!
	Adam Curran, John C. Devorak.
	It's Thursday, August 8th, 2013.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 537.
	This is No Agenda.
	Back in the Travis Heights hideout under elevated security conditions.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where the conditions are always elevated, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's crackpot and buzzkill in the morning.
	Oh, and a big donut idea.
	Late start.
	Late start.
	My mistake.
	I'm sorry.
	I spent some time setting up a new mail server.
	You know, one of those things.
	You know, this is like traveling.
	What do you mean?
	Do not eat shrimp or go to a sushi bar before a long flight.
	You have to understand.
	The server here at home, of course, whenever you go on vacation, whenever you're thousands of miles away, that, of course, is when things start to break.
	And what happened is a drive started to fail, and so it was having trouble retrieving stuff from its disk, and I'm like, you know, whatever.
	So I forwarded some stuff to a different account and worked around it, but the minute I got home, like, I'm going to take this opportunity to really set up a whole new system.
	You know me with my Curry's Law, right?
	I want to decentralize everything and everyone should be running their own mail server.
	I have found a system.
	I'm going to make a tutorial with...
	No, I'm going to make an e-book.
	An Amazon giblet.
	Yay!
	An Amazon giblet.
	An e-book that will tell you in five steps you can run your own email server.
	The only thing I didn't do right is somehow I didn't set the quota properly for the amount of incoming email.
	And, of course, you sent me the clips, which, I don't know, looks like, what is it?
	How many?
	It must have been several.
	It must have been like this.
	75 clips.
	Yeah, but how...
	No.
	How many megs?
	Let me see.
	Not that much.
	13.4.
	13.4, which it probably is set to 10 or something, so I apologize for that.
	So what's the...
	Oh, a private rail car just went by.
	Who was in it?
	Rich guys in it, I'm guessing.
	Can you still get those?
	Private rail car?
	Yeah, you can rent them.
	You can rent a private rail car and go across the country if you want to.
	But wait a minute.
	Do you just hitch on to any old train that's going your way?
	Yeah, this was on the back of an Amtrak train.
	Really?
	That's cool.
	We should get one of those.
	See, that's not as cheap as you'd think.
	I'm not saying we have any money to pay for it.
	I'm sure we have some patron out there who's more than willing to help us out.
	Oh, yeah.
	He'd be on the train with us.
	So I arrived back in Austin.
	You usually sleep about six.
	It's a sleeper car, too?
	Yeah.
	Oh, I love that.
	Oh, that sounds awesome.
	When I arrive back in Austin, John, flip on the television, you're not going to believe what I hear.
	A Homeland Security exercise will be underway in Austin over the next several weeks.
	The Texas Department of Public Safety announced several local and federal agencies will test response plans to possible terroristic threats and other critical incidents.
	Authorities say you should not be alarmed if you see a big increase in law enforcement officials on the streets of Austin.
	You know, it's like, really?
	Oh, and there was an accident.
	Oh, Mr.
	Corral.
	Yeah, we didn't know he was...
	The podcaster named Adam Curry was shot in the head.
	Hey!
	Hey, listen, don't talk like that.
	You know, we can't do with...
	One can't do without the other here on this show.
	I know.
	That's why I'm advising you to take out an insurance policy and make me the beneficiary.
	Make you the beneficiary.
	Yes.
	Okay.
	Please, please do it.
	Oh, man.
	Anyway, it is good to be back home here in the Travis Heights hideout.
	Wow, a lot transpired just since last we spoke, John.
	Just getting home was, again, quite an interesting ride.
	I'm waiting with bated breath to hear your anecdotes.
	Well, we learned that...
	How many times have I been flying back with KLM and I keep saying, it's like, no security.
	There's no big deal.
	They don't even have body scanners.
	They make it just easy.
	Yeah, you complain bitterly about it.
	Yes.
	As if you want more security.
	I was very disappointed.
	Exactly.
	So we were flying on, well, we booked it through KLM, but I guess they only have three flights a week that are actually serviced by KLM. The others are serviced by Delta, which is kind of a bummer because we got no cachet with Delta.
	We're just two more schlubs trying to scam our way into better service.
	But we got on...
	Oh, first we tried the old gold card trick at the priority check-in, the KLM priority check-in area.
	Yeah.
	No go, because...
	Here's what I'm funny.
	So it's like, okay, insert your card.
	Oh, hi, Adam Curry.
	Who are you traveling with?
	Could it be this person?
	Yes, that would be that person.
	So I select Mickey's name.
	And it's like, okay, we need your address.
	Okay.
	Really?
	You need my address?
	And so I'm filling out my address, and we get to the, you know, all the way down to zip code, and then it's like, are you in Tennessee?
	Like, what kind of system is this?
	Every stupid website even knows that the zip code where it is.
	No, no, they don't know that.
	And then, you know, so I fill all that out, and then it goes, oh, no.
	Yeah, no, the system did not understand how to pick up my state.
	Harse the zip code.
	Yeah, had no idea how to do that.
	It's totally stupid.
	But then, you know, I fill out all that information.
	Oh, no, sorry, we can't check you in.
	You know, we need extra documents.
	And, of course, that is because Mickey has to show her green card.
	That can't go through the system.
	So we got boned on, you know, getting the automatic, you know, like, priority thing on the ticket.
	But, of course, the stewardess is very, the check-in person.
	Which, by the way, they don't have name tags anymore at KLM. It's only, it says agent.
	I said, hello, agent.
	Why can't I call you by your name anymore?
	She said, oh, yeah, no, they've changed that because people were stalking us on Facebook.
	Isn't that weird?
	Ah, don't you love Facebook?
	Yeah, no one has their name anymore.
	It's all agent or flight attendant or captain.
	Stalking us on Facebook.
	Yeah, no, she said that's what it was for, for the stalking on Facebook.
	Okay, well, there you go.
	So then we go through the customs, we go to the gate, and now this is Delta.
	And dude!
	Dude!
	Yeah, everyone's getting questioned.
	So not only is there a body scanner, but everyone's getting questions.
	We're on red alert.
	No, no.
	That's the reason.
	I asked, I said, is this the red alert?
	She said, no, not at all.
	We do this every single flight.
	I said, no, because I've been flying all the time with KLM. We don't have this.
	I said, no, no.
	KLM doesn't have that.
	If it's a U.S. carrier, then we ask all the questions.
	So you're telling me...
	That if you fly KLM, the security is obviously less if you're going to the same destination.
	She said yes.
	But if I'm flying Delta, then you have to...
	And she says this unflappable, right?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Why doesn't the terrorist just take the KLM flight is the question you should ask.
	That's what I would be recommending.
	I did not say this at the time.
	I actually wanted to get on the plane.
	And of course, then we get to the naked body scanner and we say, oh, we'd like to opt out.
	And I didn't think you could do this in Europe, but they said, oh yeah, no problem.
	And so we opt out.
	And it's such a friendly process.
	Whereas in America, you know, it's like, opt out, opt out, opt out, opt out!
	Because we couldn't do the hands thing because there was only one scanner, the two of us.
	So we decided both to opt out.
	And you say, okay, no problem.
	Just step over here.
	And then you get a quick little frisk.
	Thanks.
	Okay, pick up your bags.
	No waiting.
	No bull crap.
	No attitude.
	In fact, it's actually G4S, which is that horrible security firm from the UK, the ones who did the Olympics.
	Remember that whole kerfuffle about how they screwed that up?
	Yeah.
	So it's the Dutch arm of G4S. They're really nice.
	They're making jokes.
	And not because it's Adam and Mickey.
	They were just nice to everybody.
	Now, of course, the ultimate podcast, or the improvised podcast device, along with my...
	The improvised podcast device?
	The IPE, you were saying?
	Well, I either want to call it the IPD or the IBD. The IPD, yeah.
	Improvised broadcast device might be good, too.
	So this thing, they have to take everything out now.
	Now remember, I've traveled with this thing through Europe.
	No one said a word.
	Now it has to be ripped apart.
	It's like, oh, okay, everything out, everything back in.
	The guy's pulling out my Yesu FT817 transceiver.
	He's like, what is this?
	Oh, that's what I can broadcast with.
	Oh, okay.
	Broadcasting behind the lines.
	Yeah.
	All right, so then we arrive.
	Flight uneventful.
	We arrive in Atlanta.
	And, of course, Mickey's flagged and said, oh, well, you're going to have to go to secondary.
	I said, you mean we have to sit in the aquarium?
	He said, oh, yeah.
	Yeah, you've got to sit in the aquarium.
	I said, well, what can we do about this?
	I mean, obviously she has her green card.
	It's clear that there was a problem in the past, but it was a minor issue and everything's been resolved.
	And the guy looks at me and says, oh, this will never go away.
	At least he's honest.
	This will never go away.
	But he said it like that.
	Oh, this will never go away.
	Okay.
	He said, unless she becomes a U.S. citizen.
	And even then, I have my doubts.
	But now they're saying that if you become a member of the Global Entry Program, which is another money-grabbing scam, where they want your retinal scan and you have to have an interview.
	Should you bypass all this crap?
	That's what they say, possibly, that you might get through on that.
	But I can just see you going up to getting your eyeball scanned and then they still take you aside.
	I think that's probably true.
	I think she should just do it.
	Yeah.
	She'll be the guinea pig.
	Because I want no part of that.
	And then, of course, we had to go through another security at Atlanta.
	And this is where things went.
	It could have potentially been disastrous.
	But we were both really tired.
	Oh, you had to recheck in your bags.
	Yeah, and then we had to go through security.
	And for some reason, Mickey's iPad didn't go through.
	She did the can't raise the arms.
	I opted out because there was only one slave scanning device.
	And then I didn't quite see how it started.
	But all of a sudden, this TSA agent is just like almost yelling at her.
	Because she said, oh, you know, I thought you couldn't touch.
	I'm not sure exactly what happened.
	We were both really tired.
	But then the guy was just like...
	I've come here every single day, man!
	This is how it works, brother!
	And I'm just like...
	I'm starting to freak out, John.
	I really am.
	I want to get on this plane.
	We already wasted all this time in the aquarium.
	And I'm just like, I want to get on the plane.
	I just want to go home.
	I just want to stop.
	And then some TSA officer comes over and then he talked to Mickey and she said, no, it's okay, but I... I was just like, wow!
	What was it all about?
	You're not explaining it.
	Well, she asked him a question and...
	Oh, never do that!
	No, that was what I was trying to tell her.
	Don't ask a question!
	Don't ask a question.
	Just go through.
	If they stop you, they stop you.
	I'm not sure the problem.
	It was just something was confusing.
	And meanwhile, the guy's getting the ultimate podcast device bag.
	And he's like, oh, whoa, we have to look at this one.
	And all he does is he swabs the outside, doesn't even look in it.
	It's so inconsistent.
	Everything's so stupid.
	And then, of course, on Delta, we are super priority.
	We get upgraded to first class.
	The world is crazy.
	Well, there's a benefit to everything.
	The world is crazy, I'm telling you.
	We had a nice two-hour flight in first class.
	Oh, yeah.
	I bet you the food was fantastic.
	How was the caviar and champagne?
	I actually said, can I have a Cristal Champagne?
	And she went, yeah.
	How about a Honey Jack?
	Have you ever heard of this product?
	No.
	No.
	It's a product.
	It's Jack Daniels.
	It's horrible.
	It's Jack Daniels and honey?
	And honey, yeah.
	And it's sold as a product.
	Honey Jack.
	What is this?
	I'll try it.
	It's not an outstanding product at all.
	And then we get home and they're like, you know, okay, so we've been gone for two and a half weeks.
	The house is beautiful.
	You know, our boys took care of it for us.
	Everything's great.
	And you're like, where's the mail?
	And, you know, you start looking around, you know, the plants are alive.
	Where's the mail?
	You start looking around, you go in the office, you know, and then at a certain point you start, you're ripping stuff open.
	Where's the mail?
	You know, and it's 1030, you know, texting people, hey, thanks for taking care of the house.
	Where's my mail?
	No, we didn't see any mail.
	And we text the landlady.
	She says, oh no, they were doing work on the front porch and the mailman just, you know, we thought that, you know, we don't know, he never came by.
	Like, you know, we should have like a huge pile of mail.
	And you remember our mail carrier is an associate executive producer of the show.
	Yeah.
	So he saw those.
	Well, he probably knew.
	He listens to the show.
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Knew you were on your way to a trip.
	He just stopped delivering.
	He didn't deliver it all to you on Monday.
	That's exactly what he did because he rang the doorbell and said, hey, no, I knew you guys were out, so I figured I'd just hold on to it.
	You know, the guys were ripping up the porch and everything.
	I got your mail.
	I'll bring it tomorrow.
	I was like, wow.
	Is this a great show or what?
	Yeah, there's little perks.
	Yeah, we get our perks.
	Exactly.
	Exactly.
	Anyway, so we're back and happy to be in 106 degrees, but at least we have air conditioning.
	And with that, I say, in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
	Well, in the morning to you, Adam Curry.
	In the morning to all the ships at sea and boots on the ground and feet in the air and subs in the water.
	And all the dames and knights out there.
	You're doing your thing again, just because that guy said it once.
	It's okay.
	I'm going to keep doing it until he apologizes.
	And in the morning, to all the human resources in the chatroom, noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net.
	Thank you very much for joining us once again.
	Thank you to our artists, in particular Martin J.J., for providing the art on episode 536.
	And you can find all of our artists' endeavors at noagendaartgenerator.com.
	And I would presume we have...
	What did I miss?
	What did I miss?
	Well, you missed a couple of things.
	Before we go into the regular chunks of the show...
	I want to thank our producers before we do anything.
	Well, you want to thank our producers?
	That's usually what we do when we get in the morning to you, John, Adam, that whole thing.
	Oh, let me think.
	I don't remember us ever doing that.
	As he slowly goes through his email, trying to open up his spreadsheet, carefully put together by Eric the Shill in the back office as he wears his green visor at night, putting together all the notes with various donations coming in through PayPal and through our bank.
	And...
	Well, I got the thing that says redux.
	There's nothing attached.
	Yeah, there is.
	I got the redux with an attachment.
	It's there.
	Here we go.
	Sorry about that, ladies and gentlemen of the jury.
	All right, we do have a few people to thank, including...
	A bunch of Insta Nights, which really helps the show immensely.
	Starting with the Black Knight of Silicon Valley, who came in with 10-73-33.
	Wow.
	In the morning, John and Adam.
	In close, please find 56-36 for the Sunday show, plus 53...
	$537 for the Thursday show, plus $0.33 for good measure.
	Wow.
	I'm sending...
	So in other words, this actually should have been for the last show.
	So he wants this...
	No, he's got it.
	It should be $5.38.
	We'll throw in the...
	No, this is show $5.37.
	This is $5.37.
	Yeah, I know, but he wants it for...
	He says he closed $5.37 for Sundays, which would be $5.38.
	Okay.
	He came up short, is what you're saying.
	Damn, you black knight of Silicon Valley.
	You came up short.
	Oh, man.
	You guys deserve a paid vacation.
	I hope this helps in recovering from my lack of donations last week.
	Please shoot me some of that wonderful No Agenda karma.
	Are you kidding me, man?
	Yeah, thank you.
	You're totally helping us out with that.
	Appreciate it.
	You've got karma.
	Fantastic.
	Fantastic.
	Thomas Poolyard in Manamana.
	In Bahrain, $1,000.
	Another fantastic donor.
	Sir Thomas, of course.
	High guys flew to the U.S. and left from Gate 33.
	Time to go now.
	That's a magic number.
	By the way, my Delta flight was actually DL0033. Wow!
	Yeah, I know.
	That was weird.
	This will take me to the Baron title, so he's now Baron Sir Thomas.
	These provide much-needed job.
	Karma 73 is from Alpha 92 Great Western.
	Golf whiskey.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Karma 73.
	Ah, Baron Thomas of Bahrain.
	If it's possible, actually, he'd like to be Sir Funk.
	Or something along those lines.
	Along those lines?
	Wait a minute.
	Sir Funkmaster.
	This is Josh McDonald?
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I'm reading into the next thing.
	You know, these lines on my spreadsheet, when they turn blue like this, it actually wipes out the blue line.
	Hey, man, my lines are no good.
	Yeah.
	No, seriously.
	The lines on the spreadsheet are this kind of light color.
	I'm sure we can ask Eric to...
	Eric to darken the lines.
	To give us more thickness, more girth on the lines.
	Anyway, that's Josh McDonald from Brunswick, Victoria, Australia.
	Another $1,000.
	Geez, nice.
	Wow!
	And he's the one who wants to be Sir Funk.
	Yeah, it shall be so.
	Sir Funk, Sir Josh McDonald Funk.
	Better you guys put it to good use and blow it on some gee-gaw for my car.
	I'll wear my ring with pride when hitting mofos in the mouth.
	What's a gee-gaw?
	You know, the tchotchke.
	Oh.
	The lords, dames, knights, slaves, and elites.
	Please be outstanding for another donation from the Grand Duke von Kalsmacken's.
	The Grand Duke Pelsmachers from Belgium, 88888.
	Happy 25th wedding anniversary, Mimi and John, and much marital bliss in the decades ahead, too, on top of it being an easy day to remember.
	Always important, and one day after my own, albeit failed, wedding ceremony anniversary.
	I can't read today, folks.
	It's just not going to happen.
	We're just going to bear with you.
	It's okay.
	It's an off day.
	It happens.
	Wedding anniversary.
	Our day was 7 August 1999 or 7999, which is not bad.
	7899.
	7899.
	I'm sorry.
	Again.
	The figure 8 is a lucky number in Chinese culture, of course.
	And 1.3 billion Chinese can't all be wrong.
	And what if you add 25 and 8 together?
	Coincidence?
	Yeah, well, that's a reverse engineering job.
	Maybe?
	Many happy returns.
	Have yourself.
	It is funny.
	The 25th anniversary and the 8th.
	Okay.
	Let me ask you a question.
	So Mimi, are you up there?
	Does she come down to see you?
	What's going on?
	She's here right now.
	You talked to her earlier.
	Well, I'm pretending like I shouldn't have done that.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Yeah, she's going to be flying down later this afternoon on the jet.
	On the Lear.
	She's coming in.
	And when did she come in?
	From all the sales in my e-book.
	I got it in the show notes actually today.
	When did she come in?
	Last night?
	What are you doing to celebrate?
	The baron here wants you to go out and have a good time.
	You've got to go have dinner.
	Fancy dinner.
	When we got married, I bought two cases.
	Of 1988 Lynch Bodge, which is the year.
	So we have a bottle every time we have one bottle a year.
	I dibs on the last five.
	There's only 24 in two cases, so we're actually, I don't know how we still have four left.
	How does that work?
	Well, there's actually some other ADAs that I've substituted.
	I've had some, just a few of them, but the vintage is, you know, it's starting to fade.
	You know, John, you know, that just proves that you really are a romantic.
	Yes, and here's another example of that.
	For both the kids, I bought them big bottles of a great Bordeaux wine for their birthdays, and so we opened it on their 21st birthday.
	And when you buy a wine 25 years ago, or 21 years ago, it was a lot cheaper.
	Yeah, and did the kids chug it?
	No.
	Just like, hey, thanks, Dad.
	They're not big drinkers.
	What if you had 25 and 8 together?
	Coincidence.
	I think not many happy returns and have yourself a nice dinner together with some quite suitable wines and come visit the GD of Belgium, the Grand Dukedom.
	You are near.
	We will do that.
	Thank you so much, Sir Pelsmacher's Grand Duke of Belgium.
	It's appreciated.
	And I talk about you often, by the way, whenever we're talking about the show.
	Yes, well, he's a very famous person.
	He's extremely famous.
	Sir Patrick Wilson, 3333 in Canyon Lake, California.
	Sad tidings here from inland.
	Jennifer Wilson lost her fight with breast cancer August 2nd.
	Please give Team Wilson some karma and an Italian shut-up slave to cancer.
	She was actually getting on board, unfortunately, with no agenda.
	Well, too bad.
	Sorry.
	Shut up, slave!
	Sancito, scabble!
	You've got karma.
	There you go.
	You feel bad about that?
	Yeah, I do.
	William Ashby, 3-3, yeah, because he's mentioned her before and I follow this a little bit.
	William Ashby, 3-3-3-3-3, mobile, Alabama.
	Can I just ask you, isn't that weird, the older you get?
	I started noticing this at least 10 years ago because, of course, a lot of my friends are...
	In, you know, show business and they've, you know, lived drug, alcohol-filled lives.
	But isn't it weird the older you get, just, you know, people are dying around you?
	I mean, it's weird for me.
	A lot of people find that interesting.
	Yeah, a lot of people are freaked out about it.
	I'm not freaked out, but it's just like, ah, you know, do you ever get the...
	Yeah, they start to drop.
	Yeah, they start to drop.
	And then as you get really old, they're all dead.
	They're all dead, except you.
	This guy would have my mother.
	She went to 90 and all her friends were dead.
	That's what I'm saying.
	That might just really suck.
	Just no one left.
	And then what do you do?
	You have to make new younger friends who are just totally interested in being buddies with a 90-year-old.
	Imagine logging into Facebook and your timeline is empty.
	Just no friends.
	Just shut it down.
	Shut it down.
	Be a public figure and you can get a couple of phony friends.
	That's the great thing.
	Oh yeah, that's the best.
	William Ashby, 3333.
	Read the article on autism if you can at some point, and he's got a link which I put in the show notes.
	I was diagnosed by a very intelligent doctor with psoriatic arthritis due to a leaky gut.
	My carpal tunnel-like syndromes nearly disappeared when taking an antifungal and antibiotic.
	I was reading about this and came across some fairly interesting ideas that autism is possibly linked to intestinal flora changes after antibiotics.
	Having two doctors' parents, I know they...
	Know almost nothing about how the gut bacteria affects health.
	This is true.
	If anyone would be interested in this, Adam would be...
	Adam would be.
	Oh, I see.
	I have to read this with a dramatic note.
	If anyone would be interested in this, Adam would be.
	Two possible serious ailments, which are poorly understood, have linkages to intestinal microbes.
	This should also make me a knight.
	That's a little bit of a non sequitur, but yes.
	Okay, Sir William, he's not on the list.
	Why is he not on the list?
	Ask Eric.
	I don't know.
	Well, I'm doing a show here.
	Now I have to go and ask Eric.
	We just put him on the list.
	We can put him on the list.
	Yeah, but if it's not true...
	No, no.
	These guys, they do their own accounting.
	If he says he's a knight, and we can always pull his knighthood if it turns out to be bogus, but I doubt it.
	Your knighthood has been pulled!
	You have been pulled from the knighthood.
	William Ashby.
	You know, I have confidence in Eric.
	I do.
	He's got his whole system back up and running.
	He basically puts the totals up.
	He knows what he's doing.
	I mean, obviously, I'll give William the benefit of the doubt.
	And we have no associate executive producers.
	Wow.
	Which is kind of weird.
	Interesting.
	It's interesting.
	All right.
	So while we're here, while we're on this spot, plug your e-book because you've been plugging it everywhere.
	Go to InsightTrackBook.com and you can buy a copy of an accumulation of my thoughts over the past year and a half on certain topics.
	It's a thin book.
	Including e-books.
	Yeah.
	And this is the second essay in the book.
	So this is basically just...
	It's all text stuff.
	All reruns.
	Stuff you've already written before?
	Yeah, but I've consolidated and it's all edited.
	Yeah, I understand.
	And where do we go to find this great book?
	InsideTrackBook.com.
	Or you can pick it up off of Amazon, but then I lose a dollar or something like that.
	Oh, but it is on Amazon.
	Yeah, it is on Amazon.
	By the way, it went on Amazon the same day Bezos bought the Washington Post, which I think was an omen.
	Yeah, I don't know if that's good or not.
	Can I ask you a question about this?
	How's it doing?
	Is the book selling?
	It's still about 23 or 24 copies so far.
	Really?
	Whoa!
	Mimi's glad she came down.
	No, you're kidding me.
	You should be able to do at least a couple thousand of this thing.
	My target is actually 2,000.
	And how did you come up?
	I'm just interested.
	How did you come up with the price point of $9.49?
	I liked it.
	Okay.
	It's just a gut price.
	Just numerology.
	One of the things I'm involved in here is an exercise in publishing because the e-book process to make an e-book or to take anything and repurpose it or whatever you want to do and then turn it into an e-book and then actually get it out so it goes on a Kindle properly is not hard at all, but it's also tricky.
	So it's like one of those things.
	So I'm going to do an e-book on how to do these e-books.
	Meanwhile, I'm talking on the old show.
	You've got to look at Kawasaki's book, Ape.
	So I've got to copy that.
	It's just a book about how to write books.
	It's horrible.
	It doesn't tell you anything you need to know.
	No.
	Well, I definitely want to try this.
	Can I also, if so, if I created an Amazon giblet, as I call it, which you call an e-book, I call it a giblet.
	If I created one of these about how to set up your own email server, could I give it away and just have people donate money, like my value for value thing, or does it have to cost something?
	You're going to have to price it or Amazon won't carry it.
	You could give it away but not put it on Amazon.
	But you can still get it on your Kindle?
	I mean, can't you just make something a Kindle file?
	Yeah, you could create a small pamphlet-length book, e-book, and you could put it on a, you know, you just have a link, some page that has it, you point everybody.
	Go there and you can download it.
	Right.
	And you go there and you click the download.
	It comes in as a Mobi file.
	Right.
	And then when you hook your Kindle up to the computer, you open the docs file in the Kindle and then you take that Mobi file and just slide it right in there and boom.
	No, no, no.
	There's got to be an easier way.
	Can't you email it to your Kindle?
	Can't you do that?
	You can do that, can't you?
	You have to slide it onto the Kindle somehow.
	Yeah, no.
	I thought you could email it.
	Your Kindle has a special Kindle email address.
	You can email stuff to it.
	Yeah, you will.
	I think.
	Well, there's a bunch of Kindles that don't have connectivity, so that's not going to help.
	You know what?
	I'll just post it on my blog.
	Just slide it over.
	It's like a thumb drive.
	I already don't want it.
	I already don't want it.
	I'll just post it on the blog and everyone can just go pound sand.
	Like an old woman.
	Like my mom when I gave her a microwave.
	Get it out of here.
	Get this thing out of here.
	It sparks.
	It sparks.
	Did she put her silverware in there?
	I don't know.
	She was sparking.
	She said, get it out.
	Okay, okay, mom.
	You know what's uncanny?
	Your mom sounds just like Mimi.
	I don't know what's going on.
	I'm surrounded by women that talk that way.
	Yeah, I hear you.
	All right.
	Well, anyway, definitely check out...
	I'll put a link to the...
	I already have it in there, a link to John's e-book in the show notes at 537.nashownotes.com.
	And thank you very much to our executive producers today, along with our 537 episode club member.
	That'll be The Black Knight of Silicon Valley.
	Just fantastic to see everything come through.
	Thank you very much.
	You've definitely helped us through our vacation period.
	And to support us for the Sunday show, dvorak.org.
	And of course, we always need the propagation of our formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	New. Order. Order.
	Hey, citizen.
	Yes.
	Shut up.
	But I am serious.
	I'm going to put together a tutorial.
	It'll be how to set up your mail server for idiots.
	Oh, no, I can't do that, I guess, because that'll be a violation of some kind of trademark.
	Actually, to be honest about it, well, you know they trademark these things nowadays.
	There's no such thing as a copyrighted book title.
	Well, that's why I said trademark.
	I'm sure they can do...
	A Lanham Act would make sense for that.
	I mean, I've been through that.
	It doesn't matter.
	I'm going to put it together because I was able to put together a server, an email server, everything in under an hour.
	And all you have to do is cut and paste a couple of things.
	That's the title.
	You got your title.
	Under an hour.
	Under an hour.
	Moniker and use that as your trademark gimmick for all the little books you do.
	I was actually thinking This Week in Email Servers was...
	No?
	Not a good idea?
	Them's.
	Them's Weeks in Email Servers.
	Whems or whatever.
	No, but I'm quite proud of myself.
	There's this new package which is open source called iRedMail.
	You should look at this just for yucks just to see what they're doing.
	I love the model because you've got iRedMail.
	It's a collection of a whole bunch of packages.
	It really installs with just a couple of commands, command line functions.
	It has a web client, which is pretty good.
	The only thing, obviously, I screwed up today is somewhere there's a quota thing.
	But the model these guys have is they're selling a super admin package That's like, I don't know, $300 a year if you want to license it to really be able to do multiple domains.
	It's a very good admin package, which you can do without, but they're basically selling that on top of it.
	I think it's a great model.
	And also, I learned about graylisting.
	Have you heard about this?
	I've heard of gray listing, but I don't know what you're going to talk about.
	Well, so you have blacklist, whitelist on email servers.
	I didn't know about the gray listing.
	What it is, is when...
	So if you send me an email and my mail server has never seen your host with your name before...
	It'll send back a message and say, oh, we've got a policy issue on this.
	Please try again.
	And your email server automatically knows to try it again in five minutes.
	It might be ten minutes, but it's typically about five minutes.
	And if you come back with the same identifier, then you're through and then you're whitelisted.
	Because a lot of these spam guys, you know, they don't do fully, what is it?
	Yeah, verify.
	They just blow out everything.
	Yeah, they just blow shit out.
	They don't care.
	Yeah, they come up once.
	They're not going to come again.
	Like, oh, rejected, they move on.
	And it really makes a difference in the amount of spam.
	Because I'm just watching the log.
	It's an interesting process.
	But you will have a delay sometime when someone sends you a new note for the first time.
	Yeah, I think that's when you get that message, delayed message.
	That's exactly what it is.
	I get that.
	When you send one of those back to me, I'll get a message, delayed message.
	Exactly, exactly.
	And it says, do not take any action.
	Do not worry about it.
	You shouldn't be receiving that.
	I mean, that should be transparent, but sometimes I guess it slips through.
	But it's an interesting...
	Maybe it's really old, but it seemed to me like something that's relatively...
	At least it was new to me.
	I'm like, oh, that's interesting.
	It seems to be working.
	You should explain that in the little book that you're doing.
	I will.
	In my little giblet, which will be free to all.
	And I can't believe...
	That I spent, you probably spent the same amount of time, I put five clips together of Obama and Leno.
	I got a bunch.
	We're going to be saying the same things, obviously, so why don't you, do you want to start off with these?
	Because I found this to be a very obvious story.
	Uh, you know, appearance by the president to, uh, you know, to talk to the human resources.
	Oh, please.
	This was the most rigged bullcrap thing I have ever seen.
	That's what I'm saying.
	It was all, it was rigged.
	I have the part, I have a, we'll start with this.
	They actually were, you know, chatting for a minute.
	And then Leno had his, he had two blue sheets of paper on the thing and he was literally looking down at these sheets reading the questions.
	I know.
	It was, Some of them were just so incredibly bad.
	And it seemed to me like it was too much.
	I'm just going to say a highlight.
	Just a highlight, top level.
	It was A, to tell the American people, nothing is wrong with what we're doing to your email, telephone, text messages, the camera under your bed.
	Nothing's wrong with that.
	And, fuck Russia!
	Well, here's the point.
	I actually have a couple of gaffs that I don't know whether you caught, but I got one.
	I caught them all.
	You're going to go, oh.
	I caught them all.
	How did I miss that?
	Okay.
	But let's start with, here's where Leno, he's yakking there, yakking and joking about their wives.
	And then Leno, this is the clip that, here's where Leno starts the script and you can hear him break right into a script.
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	53 years, I know exactly what you're saying.
	Hey, I've got to ask you about this.
	Everyone is concerned about these embassy closings.
	How significant is this threat?
	Well, it's significant enough that we're taking every precaution.
	I love how when someone tries to conversation...
	And, John, you and I know this because we've been doing this for, you know, decades.
	When someone conversationally tries to roll into the script, there's always that, like, no, no, no, you know, let me...
	There's always a little stutter, you know, it's like...
	Always.
	I was just wondering about this.
	It's so obvious to anyone who's done this.
	I was just going to run through the short...
	I took really snippets here.
	There's one.
	I just want to play it for the record, which is the Obama says China is slowing down.
	I don't know if this is official, but he says it.
	Okay.
	I just want this for the record.
	And when you've got problems in Europe or China's slowing down...
	Okay, why do we need that for the record?
	I'm sorry, I needed that for DH Unplugged.
	You accidentally dropped it into today's show?
	I just wanted to get it out there.
	Because there's no real, the Chinese say they're not slowing down.
	This is a real controversy whether China's slowing down.
	And by the way, Obama goes on and says, you know, this is going to be a huge problem for us.
	Yeah, because we're going to end up having to build stuff in the United States.
	That was very strange.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Stop.
	Why is this a huge problem?
	Don't we want to build stuff in the United States?
	Yes, but he says it's a problem.
	That whole clip goes, well, this is why the G20 is so important because there's going to be trouble in Europe and China slowing down.
	That affects our economy.
	What it affects is that we don't buy as much Chinese garbage.
	All right.
	Now here is the, again, these are short.
	This is Leno asking what I thought was the most disgusting of all the leading questions.
	And this is the disgusting clip.
	It's safe to say that we learned about these threats to the NSA intelligence program.
	Is that a fair assessment?
	Well, you know, this intelligence gathering that we do is a critical component of counterterrorism.
	Yeah.
	I think there was more to that.
	And let me just come in here with my clip.
	I think I had something extra that you might have missed.
	The NSA leaguer Edward Snowden, some call him a whistleblower.
	What do you call him?
	I got that.
	You got this clip?
	Yeah.
	Go on, play it.
	We don't know yet exactly what he did, other than what he said on the Internet.
	I'm sorry.
	You're wrong, Mr.
	President.
	He didn't say anything on the Internet.
	Mr.
	Snowden gave everything to the Guardian in the Washington Post through the filmographer Lori Poitras.
	Now, why are you saying he put it on the Internet?
	I was baffled by that myself.
	Okay, I'm sorry.
	No, that's good.
	Here is the one...
	Wait, wait, wait.
	No, I got it.
	Here's the one that's important.
	I think you missed this one about the NSA. Some skepticism.
	And I think we should have a healthy skepticism about what government's doing.
	Yeah.
	I had the programs reviewed.
	We put in some additional safeguards to make sure that there's federal court oversight as well as congressional oversight, that there is no spying on Americans.
	We don't have a domestic spying program.
	What we do have are some mechanisms where we can track a phone number or an email address that we know is connected to some sort of terrorist threat.
	And You know, that information is useful.
	But, you know, what I've said before...
	Here comes the performative.
	You know, I want to make sure I repeat.
	And that is, we should be skeptical about...
	None of the revelations show that government has actually abused these powers.
	None of the revelations show that government has abused these powers, which doesn't mean it's not actually happening.
	He's actually covering and just saying, well, nothing that came out shows that we're doing anything wrong.
	You need to put George Bush's head on the guy when he talks like that.
	I give you that.
	That's a good one.
	That's a good point.
	Thank you.
	Now, if we're going to get into that, I'm going to have to give you a topper.
	Oh, no.
	Top me, Johnny boy.
	This is a very short clip where I just think this, to me, was like a clip of the day.
	Quality clip.
	This is Obama talking about the odds of getting killed by terrorists.
	We're going to live our lives, and the odds of people dying in a terrorist attack, obviously, are still a lot lower than in a car accident, unfortunately.
	Unless you're Michael Hayes.
	Did you hear that?
	Wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	Unfortunately, no.
	We're going to live our lives, and the odds of people dying in a terrorist attack obviously are still a lot lower than in a car accident, unfortunately.
	Wow.
	Well, you've already set it up.
	Crap.
	I'll give it to you then.
	Damn.
	Well, there's more.
	There's more.
	But I didn't hear the unfortunately the first time around.
	How does someone...
	I don't know, man.
	It's like...
	By the way, this is part, I think, of an overall theme that I'm convinced is going on.
	They are not getting the...
	This NSA thing is just part of the...
	Because the NSA has not come up with any excuse for all these taps, and they haven't arrested anybody.
	There's nothing really been done.
	It's a fiasco, and so people are getting sick of this terrorism thing, and that's why Obama said, oh, your chances of getting killed are less than getting killed in a car wreck.
	Unfortunately, Because he would like to see more terrorism.
	More terrorism!
	I got something here.
	I got a little...
	I don't know if you picked up on this one.
	What I try to do as president is not overreact, but make sure that as much as possible the American people understand that there are genuine risks out there.
	What's great about what we've seen with America over the last several years is how resilient we are.
	So after the Boston bombing, for example, the next day...
	Folks are out there.
	They're going to ballgames.
	What are you talking about?
	The whole city of Boston shut down.
	People were supposed to cower in their houses.
	Crouch and cower.
	What are you talking about?
	Making sure that we're not reacting in a way that somehow shuts us down.
	You literally shut down.
	Literally shut down the city.
	And that's the right reaction.
	Terrorists Of course we know that this is a script, but what kind of credibility does anyone have when he's saying these things?
	Literally, there was like a huge manhunt.
	They shut down the entire city.
	Stay in your homes.
	Be afraid.
	Don't wait until we come and save you with our guns.
	And this...
	I'm baffled.
	Now, knowing...
	Again, we have a number of clips for people who have to put up with, but these are really good because this is the opportunity where Obama actually gets out from behind the podium, tries to talk, even though this is very rehearsed, and he stutters a lot, but...
	There's a moment, and this is, to me, one of the really great clips I have.
	It's a short clip.
	There's a moment where Leno, he's got his talking points, and he tries to put together some sort of a question, and he has all these things he's got to jam in there.
	He's got the meme about, oh, Snowden should have stayed in the country and taken his punishment like a man, which is one of the memes that he threw into this discussion.
	Right, take it like a man, yeah.
	And all that sort of thing.
	But he gets a bunch, but he's got a blast, you know, the stripper girlfriend and all this other bull crap.
	So Leno, this is the question, Leno loses talking points.
	This is where Leno, he's got all these talking points, so he just starts babbling.
	He just throws the words in it with no connection.
	It's hilarious.
	This guy's being paid money by an outside firm, live in Hawaii, got the stripper girlfriend.
	All of a sudden, you're all upset with what the government is doing.
	Right.
	And you go to another country.
	I mean, in my era, Daniel Ellsberg stood in the town square and said, I've got this, got arrested, New York Times.
	I mean...
	And the president going, what does he throw the New York Times in for?
	And what does Ellsberg got in for?
	Well, this is what Leno was supposed to be saying.
	He sort of turned it around, because that has been the talking point I've heard, certainly, on MSNBC, etc., and, like, Mourning Joe.
	It's like, Ellsberg, well, you know, Ellsberg, he came out, but he stood his ground like a man!
	He took it like a man!
	And, you know, Snowden's a pussy!
	They've been saying this over and over.
	Yeah, and then meanwhile, all people have to look into is Benny.
	He's the NSA guy who was a whistleblower.
	The FBI arrested him and his kids at gunpoint while he was taking a shower.
	In seconds.
	In seconds, and made his life miserable.
	And meanwhile, we listened to this bull crap from Obama with this little clip here.
	You can play as much of this as you want.
	Obama pro-whistleblower, he says.
	Yeah, this was funny, too.
	Let me ask you about this, the NSA leaker Edward Snowden.
	Some call him a whistleblower.
	What do you call him?
	Well, we don't know yet exactly what he did, other than what he said on the internet.
	And it's important for me not to prejudge something.
	Like I did with Bradley Manning, where I said he was guilty.
	Or Trayvon Martin.
	Yeah, let's not prejudge anything.
	At some point he'll go to trial and...
	You know, he will have a lawyer and due process, and we can make those decisions.
	I can tell you that there are ways, if you think that the government is abusing a program of coming forward.
	In fact, I, through executive order, signed whistleblower protection for intelligence officers or people who are involved in the intelligence industry.
	Yeah, let me get right on that.
	So, you don't have to break the law.
	You don't have to.
	So wait a minute.
	He just said here he broke the law.
	So you don't have to break the law?
	Right.
	The guy hasn't been tried.
	The whole thing is phony.
	Phony, phony, phony, phony, phony, phony.
	It's disturbing, you know?
	It really is.
	And the lack of any kind of counter-discussion.
	It's just, where is everybody on this?
	This is sad.
	Lano is really sickening in this.
	In the worst case, I think one of the worst things he does is this gay...
	Diatribe.
	Now, you talked and discussed the real situation about gays in Russia.
	Well, hold on a second, because I have it.
	I have here from one of our producers.
	I asked for it.
	Now, I had already seen this, but I asked specifically for a translation, and I have it here.
	The Russian gay law, translated by our producer, Mr.
	Prayer.
	Just one paragraph.
	Here it is.
	So, the offense...
	I believe this to be a true translation.
	Propaganda of non-traditional sexual relations among minors expressed in the dissemination of information aimed at developing in minors of non-traditional sexual directives, attractiveness of non-traditional sexual relations, a distorted picture of the social attractiveness of non-traditional sexual relations, a distorted picture of the social equivalence of traditional and non-traditional sexual relations, or the imposition of information on non-traditional sexual relationships causing interest in such relationships if these actions do not have a criminal
	And the fines are $100 fine and a three-year ban, I think, on entry to Russia for individuals and for companies.
	It can be up to $30,000 translated from their rubles or whatever it is.
	But the bottom line is it is not, although sad...
	It is not a ban on being gay or anything of the like.
	And it is not just Putin.
	It is Russia.
	And I have some of the statistics.
	88%, according to some polling companies in Russia, of the Russian population on board with this, So, while it seems foreign to us, it is a far cry from, you go to jail if you're gay, which is pretty much, I think, what Leno said.
	Well, what Leno says on this show is worse than that.
	Now, we should also mention we had a guy in Sweden...
	I guess we can talk about this later, but this is part of a concerted anti-Putin thing, it seems to me.
	It's all about anti-Putin.
	In fact, the President...
	Did you have the Cold War thing where he's talking about, oh, Putin's back in a Cold War mentality.
	He's thinking Cold War.
	It's funny.
	I didn't clip that one either.
	It was funny, but that Cold War mentality comment is funny because they had an ambassador.
	I think it was the ambassador to Russia, in fact, during Reagan or Clinton, who said that if anybody's acting with a Cold War mentality, it's us.
	And I actually believe that's true.
	Listen to this.
	I'm going to lead into...
	Which one is it?
	Which one is the...
	Well, I got to set it up.
	It's the gay roundup.
	Okay.
	I was just going to give you a little 12 second of Aaron Burnett.
	Okay, hit it.
	And Russia is Russia, Nazi Germany.
	Tonight, there are more comparisons being made about Russia's crackdown on gays and lesbians and the Nazis' persecution of Jewish citizens, homosexuals, and others that Hitler wanted to eliminate.
	This is where it's gone.
	We've now got Aaron Burnett.
	And she actually throws to the Leno clip right after this.
	Saying that Russia are the new Nazis because they want to round up the gays and gas them.
	Well, I find this disturbing because these are obvious White House talking points.
	Again, anti-Putin.
	And so what we have in this next clip is Leno making a statement that is totally false.
	It's a complete lie.
	And Obama, instead of saying, well, you got that a little bit wrong and correcting him like a president...
	Like a presidential guy should do.
	He should say, well, you got that wrong.
	It's not quite that bad.
	But what he does instead, but he doesn't agree, but he doesn't disagree with it at all.
	And he goes off and kind of changes the subject.
	So Leno says, oh, they're going to kill all the gays.
	And the President Obama says, well, you know, I'm against people that don't like gays.
	I mean, he doesn't, he just disconnects from Leno.
	He lets it stand as though it's true.
	Yep, yep.
	This is a horrible, horrible, horrible person in this situation.
	This is the worst clip in terms of, I mean, this would be a good clip of the day, but it's so disgusting that I hate to give it any sort of an award.
	But listen to this.
	Well, something that shocked me about Russia, and I'm surprised this is not a huge story, suddenly homosexuality is against the law.
	Lie!
	That is not the fact.
	It is not.
	I mean, this sounds like Germany.
	Let's round up the Jews.
	Let's round up the gays.
	Let's round up the black.
	I mean, it's...
	Let's round up the Jews.
	No, let's round up the dumb comedians.
	It starts with that.
	You round up people who you don't want.
	I mean, why is not more of the world outraged at this?
	Well, I've been very clear that when it comes to universal rights, when it...
	Here's what I think happened.
	I think that Leno was off script Bringing this up.
	Or maybe they never scripted it.
	It was like, I'll bring up the Russian gay thing.
	Okay, yeah, great.
	And then I'll talk about how much I love gays and lesbians and transgenders.
	And by the way, he forgets bisexuals in this, and I'm very perturbed by that.
	The president forgets.
	So I think Leno just went off, and you can hear the president struggling, which is why I think he's just like, okay, I'm going to leave that one over there.
	That's up to you.
	Well, he did a great job of hanging in there after Leno went off the rails.
	It comes to people's basic freedoms, that whether you are discriminating on the basis of race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation, you are violating the basic morality that I think should transcend every country.
	I've got to say something about this, because people misunderstand.
	And I think a lot of people listening to the show will say, well, yeah, but it is about hating the gays.
	I mean, that's almost as...
	You can only extrapolate things so far as to what they are.
	There's a far cry from the legislation that they have about propagandizing in front of minors.
	Not in coal miners, but children who are underage to, you know, you're not allowed to be gay.
	And you're going to round you up.
	And I have this conversation with Mickey because she says, well, you know, but that's just where it starts.
	And then, you know, before you know it, you know, if I want to have a gay bar and I'm advertising, they're going to shut me down.
	And I'm like, maybe, you know, you can take it that far.
	But what people are missing, this is about making Russia look bad.
	I mean, look, we have nothing but three and a half million black people in jail here in America.
	What are you talking about?
	Hello?
	I mean, this is basically, you know...
	Hello, Kettle?
	Except this is now just being propagated through NBC channels and CNN as, you know, Russia hates gays.
	They're horrible, horrible, horrible people.
	Putin.
	Putin.
	Who, of course, as we discussed in the previous show, the funny thing is the guy's obviously gay.
	That's the irony of it.
	So there's this clip where this is just as if Leno knows anything.
	He throws this KGB zinger in there.
	Oh, yeah.
	And Putin seems to me like one of those old school KGB guys.
	Well, he headed up the KGB. Yeah, well, that's what I mean.
	I'm sorry.
	No, he did not head up the KGB. In fact, he only rose to the rank of lieutenant colonel.
	He did not run the KGB. You can find this on Wikipedia.
	And the president said, oh yeah.
	Oh yeah, he ran the KGB! And what you maybe should mention, George H.W. Bush did run the CIA. Actually did run the CIA, yeah.
	It's not true.
	He resigned from active state security services with the rank of Lieutenant Colonel on August 20th, 1991.
	That is a far cry from running the KGB. Let's listen to that again, because that was another one that was exchanged.
	And it's insulting to me.
	And it was also scripted.
	And Keaton seems to me like one of those old-school KGB guys.
	Well, he headed up the KGB. Yeah, well, that's what I mean.
	That's what I mean.
	He has that mentality.
	I mean, look at this picture here.
	You two...
	And then we're going to show some pictures.
	Oh, yeah, that's his Cold War mentality.
	Now, did you catch the Olympic Games thing?
	Ah, I got the Olympic Games one.
	What did you catch in it?
	Okay, can I play the clip and then can I say what I caught?
	Okay.
	I think Putin and Russia have a big stake in making sure the Olympics work, and I think they understand that for most of the countries that participate in the Olympics, we wouldn't tolerate gays and lesbians being treated differently.
	They're athletes, they're there to compete, and if Russia wants to uphold the Olympic spirit, then Every judgment should be made on the track or in the swimming pool or on the balance beam.
	People's sexual orientation shouldn't have anything to do with it.
	Yeah, unfortunately, we don't swim or do track or balance theme during the Winter Olympics.
	Yeah, I got that, too.
	The Winter Olympics.
	Yeah, he's so out of it.
	And then, and it was like, oh, yes, oh, yes.
	Yeah, the audience is clapping.
	It's the Winter Olympics, you idiots.
	I mean, it would be, you know, ice dancing, you know, if he had said that.
	Yeah, skating, skiing, ski jumping.
	I mean, that means you haven't, you're just, you're just a puppet.
	That to me was the clincher.
	It's just like, wow.
	And by the way, aren't the Winter Olympics on NBC? Yeah, they have all the Olympics.
	Let's see.
	Winter Olympics.
	Yeah, no, it's NBC. I guarantee it.
	Really?
	Wow.
	And then Leno should have been...
	Well, of course, he can't correct the president, I guess.
	Yeah, 2014 Winter Olympics, NBC. So they plug it...
	So they're not going to push that one.
	No.
	That agenda's not going on.
	It was a crappy plug because it was wrong.
	Very crappy.
	On the balance beam during the Sochi Winter Olympics, ladies and gentlemen.
	So I heard a gaffe in this clip...
	Actually, I've got two gaps that I want to discuss.
	We're almost done, by the way, for people out there who are sick of this.
	No, I don't think anyone's sick of it, because I think a lot of people don't see this.
	You'd be amazed, or they only see some highlights, but now we're actually pulling the whole thing apart.
	This was so full of incorrect, just factually incorrect things.
	Lies.
	Lies, even, that it was astounding to me.
	We are Russia.
	Stick her out!
	Okay, so there's a funny gaffe in here that I thought was weird.
	This is the Gaze Part 2 with weird gaffe.
	And see if you can spot it.
	It's just very minor, minor.
	Hold on a second.
	I don't see gaffe.
	I see odd gaffe.
	Oh, yeah.
	Sorry.
	Here we go.
	And I have no patience for countries that try to treat gays or lesbians or transgender persons in ways that intimidate them or are harmful to them.
	Now, what's happening in Russia is not unique.
	when I traveled to Africa there were some countries that are doing a lot of good things for their people who were working with and helping on development issues but in some cases have persecuted gays and lesbians and it makes for I didn't get it He says things in Russia...
	He was going to say something else.
	He says things in...
	It was either going to say Germany or Japan.
	Oh, hold on.
	It was on his mind.
	So Germany and Japan are on his mind.
	Listen, hold on a second.
	Development issues, but in some cases have persecuted gays and lesbians.
	Where was that?
	It was right dead in the middle.
	Okay, hold on.
	Intimidate them or harmful to them.
	Now, what's happening in Russia?
	Sounds like Japan.
	Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
	Sounds like he's going into Japan.
	Good catch, by the way.
	Good catch.
	I didn't hear that.
	So, Japan.
	Write it down.
	Put it in the book, man.
	Something's going to happen.
	Gaze in Japan.
	It's on his mind.
	Gaze in Japan.
	It could be.
	Yeah, something gay in Japan.
	You watch.
	And here's another one I caught, which is the odd gaffe about getting rich.
	You may have heard this one.
	I'm not absolutely sure what it even means, why he did this, but he corrects himself.
	And this is a very obvious gaffe, but there's part of a just getting by meme in here and some other stuff.
	But discuss this after you hear it.
	Where if folks work hard, they can find a good job that pays a decent wage.
	They can send their kids to college.
	They got health care they can count on.
	They can retire even if they don't get rich.
	Even if they don't get rich?
	Hold on, hold on.
	I'll roll it back.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm sorry.
	Where if folks work hard, they can find a good job that pays a decent wage.
	They can send their kids to college.
	They got health care they can count on.
	They can retire even if they don't get rich, or even if they're not rich.
	And we're creating these ladders of opportunities for people to get into the middle class.
	You stupid Mexican.
	You came to America.
	You didn't even get rich.
	How dumb are you?
	It's the easiest thing in the world.
	So I found that to be a very peculiar switchback because he says they can retire even if they don't get rich.
	It's fine, isn't it?
	By a standalone?
	Yeah, but...
	So I've said, well, you know, you can retire here even if you don't get rich.
	And then I'd go on.
	I wouldn't go, even if you aren't rich, what is the point of making that switch back?
	Yeah, of making the correction.
	It's probably some training, some trigger that he's got, you know, about how to talk and things to say and how to particularly talk about wealth and money and riches.
	Maybe.
	Maybe.
	I mean, it just sounded like some training kicked in there, some Pavlovian thing.
	Yeah, it could be.
	But I just found that one to be the most peculiar.
	And last, we have the extradition disappointment, which was just a pure piece of propaganda, again, with a lead-in written question, acted as though it wasn't.
	Were you surprised that Russia granted Snowden...
	I was disappointed.
	Because, you know, even though we don't have an extradition treaty with them, traditionally we have tried to respect if there's a lawbreaker or an alleged lawbreaker in their country.
	We evaluate it and we try to work with them.
	They didn't do that with us.
	And in some ways it's reflective of some underlying challenges that we've had with Russia lately.
	Yeah, like, I don't know, Syria?
	Stuff like that.
	Just minor little things we've got going on with Russia lately.
	This was really a bizarre performance, I thought.
	Gave them the whole show, by the way.
	And this will go down in the history books.
	We may not be around for this one, but this will be written up as an example of where America was off its rocker.
	With propaganda.
	No, actually, I'll add something to this.
	You know, the president is working on his bargain, you know, the bargain for the American people, which I guess part of the American dream is owning your own home.
	This is now back on the agenda, and the president's idea here is, again, some kind of reform, you know, blah, blah, blah, make it easier to pay for your home, to buy a home, you know, not everyone's going to, but whatever it is, But, remind me John, what is the definition of fascism again?
	Well, it depends on which one of our listeners is writing us a note about it.
	But generally speaking, it's when the governments and the corporations work together hand-in-hand to benefit the large stakeholders as opposed to the public itself.
	So if you are the president and you're trying to get some kind of bargain for people, whatever it is, And, you know, and you can do this through legislation, but if you were to actually work with, I don't know, like, a big real estate agency, would that be weird?
	Would that be wrong if you, like, work with one...
	Not if you're a fascist.
	Zillow presents A Better Bargain for Responsible Homeowners with President Barack Obama.
	Now here's your moderator, Zillow CEO, Spencer Draskoff.
	Welcome, and thank you for joining us today.
	Zillow is honored to host this unprecedented event and connect homeowners, renters, and prospective buyers with President Obama, who is ready to answer your housing questions.
	The housing market has come a long way in the last year, and we're all very happy to see most local markets bouncing back after the housing recession, with many homeowners freed from negative equity and sellers enjoying a competitive environment.
	Still, there are concerns about the future, and we've received thousands of questions over the last couple of days via social media.
	Today we'll post some of these questions, your questions, to the President.
	I'm honored to welcome President Barack Obama, Mr.
	President.
	Great to see you.
	Thank you.
	Thank you so much.
	Is this, is it just me?
	Or is this wrong?
	It seems a bit wrong.
	I mean, it's like an infomercial.
	It could be you too, but...
	There's a whole infomercial with Zillow Presents.
	They're a commercial real estate agency.
	Yeah, and now they're apparently endorsed by the president, which I thought was illegal.
	And then they've got these questions, and they're shill questions.
	The people are doing selfies on their iPhone to record the video.
	It's not even a Skype.
	It's just recorded.
	And it's all talking points they can't even get through.
	You've got to hear just one.
	Yeah.
	Mr.
	President, our first question comes from Andrew Houston in Gainesville, Florida.
	Let's watch his video.
	Let's watch his video, which I'm sure is not produced at all to look authentic.
	Good morning, Mr.
	President.
	My name is Andrew Houston in Gainesville, Florida, and I was wondering how you feel rising interest rates over the last three months are going to affect the housing recovery going forward.
	I was actually fortunate enough to refinance at historically low rates earlier this year.
	These were historically low rates.
	Oh, wait.
	I was happy to refinance.
	This is why I always talk.
	I was happy to refinance at historically low rates for a local lender.
	Not what, you know.
	Hello.
	Memo to White House.
	We're on to you.
	We figured it out.
	Historically low rates.
	Put the video in the show notes.
	You just look at that thing.
	It's bizarre.
	It's just bizarre.
	Every one of those questions is bizarre.
	The whole thing is bizarre.
	And to what end?
	To what point?
	People are running out?
	There's no one giving you no historically low rate.
	I go there, they laugh me out of the shop.
	Yeah, we have all kinds of equity and I can't get a loan.
	I have no debt and I can't get a loan.
	In fact, Eric DeShield has a story where he was like one of the banks up there.
	We finally got a clue that there's a good bank up in the Pacific Northwest in Washington that matches the Mechanics Bank for being a really good bank.
	But this bank actually loans money.
	Mechanics Bank never does.
	It's called Umpqua.
	And so Umpqua Bank is where we're trying to switch everything up there to.
	And I got this as an unsolicited endorsement from some guy in line at the Mechanics Bank going in there.
	And the guy says, yeah, this is a great bank.
	I said, this is a great bank.
	I said, I know a guy in Texas that uses this bank.
	It's so good.
	He says, yep, but it's not as good as Umpqua.
	He goes on with a long story.
	He says, you think this bank is good?
	Umpqua, there's your bank.
	Umpqua.
	How do you spell Umpqua?
	U-M-P-Q-U-A, I believe.
	Umpqua.
	Umpqua, okay.
	And anyway, so Umpqua.
	It actually says, welcome to Umpqua, the world's greatest bank.
	Mimi thought that was hilarious.
	That's great.
	That's some marketing for you.
	We want our customers to be happy.
	Really, really happy.
	That's kind of cool.
	I'm down with that.
	Yeah, so we're going to look into Umco.
	But Eric got to run around.
	They got equity.
	They got property.
	Him and his dad.
	Don't they own like half of Finland?
	They got a lot of money and they got to run around from one of these other little local dipshit banks which are up there and they even put a lien on the property without even giving them any money and then said they couldn't give them any money.
	They put a lien on the property as though they own it.
	How can you do that?
	These banks, this is like the Bank of America that tried to foreclose on some guy's property.
	They never gave him a loan.
	The guy had the property paid off, and the sheriffs were knocking on the door because the banks said, ah, let's take this guy's property.
	I thought this happened to Eric the Shill.
	I thought you were talking about that.
	Now, I know Bank of America are a-holes.
	That's why they got crashed in the Hudson.
	Well, they're definitely not a good operation.
	Of course, talking about that sort of thing...
	If you don't want to change the subject completely.
	So, this is a story I heard on Democracy Now!
	about some, I guess, some big protest over here in Richmond at the refinery.
	I can see the refinery from my house.
	And I didn't know anything about this, but it got a big run-up because of, you remember 350.org or whatever it is?
	Yeah, the number of particles per million of carbon.
	Yeah, Bill McKibben is the guy who runs it.
	And I think that they've turned themselves into one of those, you know, the Rainbow Coalition, Jesse Jackson's operation makes most of its money through a form of intimidation.
	Mm-hmm.
	They go to a company and they say, you guys are not hiring enough blacks, you're not doing this, you're not doing that.
	Yeah, we're going to make some trouble until you pay.
	We're going to make some trouble.
	Oh, are you going to give us a big donation?
	Oh, yeah.
	Okay, well, we can work something out now.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So, I believe this might be going on here because if you listen to this clip on Standard Oil and listen to McKibben go on and on, and by the way, I'm going to...
	As someone who was in the business oil refining industry as a chemist, and then I was in the air pollution district, and my assignments were oil refineries.
	The Bay Area's got a bunch of oil refiners, and I can assure you that the standard oil refinery here in Richmond is one of the cleanest of the entire group.
	To be honest about it.
	it.
	So but here's what you end up with anyway.
	210 people were arrested at the Chevron refinery in Richmond, California, and the latest mass mobilization against fossil fuel dependence and climate change.
	Thousands of people marched to the refinery to condemn safety issues at the plant and to call for renewable alternatives to fossil fuels.
	The protests came ahead of Tuesday's one year anniversary of a massive fire at the Chevron refinery, which sent toxic smoke billowing into the air, hospitalizing roughly 15,000 people with respiratory issues.
	The city of Richmond's filed a lawsuit against Chevron over the fire, claiming it followed a series of similar incidents.
	This weekend's protest was part of a wave of summer heat actions led by the environmental group 350.org.
	The group's founder, Bill McKibben, was among those who were arrested.
	The reason that we're here is because Chevron is a really bad actor, okay?
	In the places where they get their oil, they're a bad actor.
	Ask the people in Canada fighting their fracking.
	Ask the people in Ecuador who've had to live with their waste.
	When they get it here to refine it, they're a bad actor.
	They sent 15,000 of their neighbors to the hospital, and they are...
	Bad, bad actors on this planet.
	They have 9 billion barrels of oil in their reserves, okay?
	If they burn most of those, then we cannot deal with climate change.
	It sounds, I mean, people, if you haven't read it, read Michael Crichton's State of Fear.
	This guy could have been, he could have just walked out of that book.
	Do you know what I mean?
	Yeah.
	It sounds just like it.
	It's all rehearsed and it's all part of the process.
	I can assure you that if Standard Oil had contributed to 350.org...
	That would have been no problem.
	Yeah.
	No problem.
	So that, by the way, is part of the program, and that is In State of Fear, which, again, is just a fabulous book to read.
	Even if you think, like they're saying today, that there will be no ice on the Arctic in 2050, which I still might make it.
	I might be able to witness the ice-free pole.
	Even if you buy into that, you should read this book because this is exactly what it describes where the big oil companies are all contributors to these outfits that basically protest against them.
	They take the money.
	They take the money and say, okay, we'll ease off on you.
	We'll go to BP tomorrow.
	Yeah, they got Unical to go after some other place.
	There's a bunch of refineries around here.
	Exactly.
	So while we're on the climate change bandwagon, I didn't want to clip this whole thing, but I just thought that this was like really getting out there.
	And see if you can kind of imagine where this actually, what kind of conclusions you get from the rising temperatures and war theory clip.
	So it turns out that when we look at temperature, it actually looks as though the relationship is pretty continuous.
	So pretty much wherever you are in the modern world, we tend to observe that even increasing the temperature by a little bit leads to higher levels of conflict.
	But if we look at rainfall data, there does tend to be these sort of threshold effects where very extremely high levels of rainfall or extremely low levels of rainfall tend to be damaging.
	And that's consistent with the economic ideas you've been pointing out, particularly because extreme rainfall is very bad for agriculture.
	It's interesting that you tried to do this retrospectively.
	Is there reliable enough data both on human activity and on the natural world to look back into the past and say, aha, here's a time where rising temperatures can be correlated with increased human violence?
	There's no real conflict!
	So in other words...
	So that means World War III is just around the corner.
	Yeah, because of global warming.
	That's right, because we're all pissed off.
	And by the way, if it wasn't for global warming, no Hitler.
	That ends the conversation, doesn't it?
	I was thinking, wow.
	I like that.
	I like that.
	Yeah, well...
	No, I saw this too.
	I saw that people fight more when it's warm.
	It's warm, so let's go ahead and start a war.
	You know, I don't know.
	I live in Austin, Texas.
	It's 106.
	You know, we sit at home, we drink mint julep.
	We're not going out fighting.
	Like, hey, want to go fight?
	No, man.
	I'm going to drink that beer, okay?
	Right.
	Stupid.
	We don't fight here.
	We don't.
	I was surprised.
	No, I wasn't surprised.
	I was laughing, really, about the obvious propaganda that shows up.
	You know, they're still trying to figure out how can we...
	Get some real benefit out of the Boston bombing.
	Remember when it first started, when it first happened, we didn't know anything about the Sarnoff brothers?
	I should have pulled some of those clips.
	It was on Patriots Day, it was probably someone from the far right, some crazy wacko who hates taxes, hates the government.
	Well, luckily, and I know you saw this, we've come around now and we have an Associated Press report, which is, of course, that means it must be true.
	It turns out that the dead Sarnoff brother, of course, it always has to be the one who can't talk anymore.
	Well, wait, hold on a second.
	Are you talking about the dead Sarnoff brother that was held down, his head was held down by a guy's boot?
	Yeah, that would be the one.
	And then even though he's being held down by a guy's boot, his brother runs over him?
	Yes, with a car, back and forth.
	Yeah, that one.
	Yeah, yeah, that guy.
	I just want to get that straight.
	This is Tamerlan.
	So they've tracked down this story, and you couldn't make it any crazier.
	So the boy's mother, Zubidite Tsarnaev, who was also a little bit weird in this, she tried to make ends meet for her family by working as a home health aide after the family arrived in the U.S., which, by the way, I think...
	You can't just become a home health aide.
	You can go help people.
	This warrants some investigation, exactly what that is.
	One of her clients in 2010, so by now I guess she's been trained, was Donald Larkin of Newton, Massachusetts, who was disabled after he was shot in the face 40 years ago during a robbery of a convenience store where he worked.
	Now, Mr.
	Larkin, I'm reading from the Wall Street Journal now, the BBC has their own version of it, miraculously survived.
	But people close to the family, no sources, people close to the family said his faculties did not survive.
	He was intrigued with, and I'm quoting now, far-flung conspiracies, they said.
	He subscribed to newspapers and journals that...
	Oh, I love this.
	I've got to read this to you.
	This is crazy.
	This is the Wall Street Journal.
	He subscribed to newspapers and journals that doubted the Holocaust and described the attacks of September 11th, Oklahoma City, and the Newtown School as plots by unseen elites, the U.S. and Israeli governments.
	Now, Mr.
	Larkin couldn't be interviewed, said his lawyer, Jason Rosenberg.
	The shooting damaged the executive function area of Mr.
	Larkin's brain.
	What is the executive function area?
	I've got to talk to my brain professor about that.
	Making it difficult for his client to make decisions and impairing, quote, his awareness of the realities of the world.
	So now, if you believe in an alternative theory about...
	This is the messaging.
	You're talking about messaging.
	Yeah, the messaging is if you believe in alternative theories than the conspiracy theories propagated by the government about September 11th in Oklahoma City, then you are equal to a brain-damaged person who has been shot in the head.
	Who has been shot in the head.
	Mr.
	Sarnoff, that would be the dead one, began asking his brother to care.
	Oh, Mrs.
	Sarnoff.
	Mom began asking Tamerlan, the dead brother, or his brother, it says, to care for Mr.
	Larkin when she wasn't available.
	Sounds like a real health care operation to me.
	Mr.
	Larkin's wife, Rosemary, a quadriplegic, also needed help at home.
	Mr.
	Saranev seemed to have found a kindred spirit in Mr.
	Larkin.
	This is really conjecture here.
	They became friends and had animated talks about politics, people close to the Larkin family said.
	Mr. Larkin also gave him his readings, they said.
	A Wall Street Journal reporter recently visited Mr. Sarnoff's apartment in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and read a stack of newspapers mostly borrowed from Mr. Larkin that alleged nefarious conspiracies.
	So let me get this straight.
	So a Wall Street Journal reporter walks into, I guess, something that should be part of a crime scene, the Sarnev's apartment in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and there's a stack of newspapers, which he then concludes or somehow deduces were borrowed from Mr.
	Larkin, and they allege nefarious conspiracies.
	Let's talk about that.
	The papers included The First Freedom, an Alabama-based newspaper that espouses, quote, equal rights for whites and whose websites feature a Confederate flag.
	Oh!
	There you go.
	Another was The Sovereign, a New York-based publication that alleges the U.S. is under the sway of Israeli lobbyists and that Israel and the Department of Homeland Security were, quote, deeply involved in the Boston bombings.
	Neither paper returned requests for comment.
	And here's the one that just slays me.
	Mr.
	Sarniff got his own subscription to American Free Press, a paper that our friends from the Southern Poverty Law Center said that this paper promotes anti-Semitic conspiracy theories A spokeswoman for the paper denied it had such an agenda, saying the paper publishes, quote, news that established media won't.
	So again, we're getting very close now.
	Oh, if you say that you talk about things that the established media won't, you're probably a Jew hater.
	And here it comes.
	She confirmed that someone bought Mr.
	Sarnoff a get acquainted 16 week subscription in December.
	It expired in April at about the time of the Boston Marathon attack.
	This to me is smoking gun.
	He didn't get the subscription.
	Someone did.
	Someone did.
	Can you say set up?
	Possibly.
	Yeah, and it was only a one-year subscription, obviously.
	No, no, 16-week, 16-week.
	Oh, 16-week, just the time to end when they didn't care anymore.
	I've got to read some more of this.
	And by the way, it is Southern Poverty.
	Yeah, it's incorrect in the Wall Street Journal.
	Government investigators say Islamist radicalism was Mr.
	Sarna's motive in planting explosives near the finish line of the race.
	He frequented jihadi websites, authorities said, and he and his brother built their pressure cooker bombs with the help of al-Qaeda's online magazine Inspire, which published an article titled, How to Build a Bomb in the Kitchen of Your Mom.
	So this is also all conjecture.
	None of it is proved but being printed as fact in the Wall Street Journal.
	Now, quote, This is Bruce Hoffman from the Director of the Security Studies at Georgetown University.
	By the way, I just do not see Al-Qaeda types having any sort of sense of humor insofar as they would make a headline like that.
	Not only it was a humorous pun, which I do not believe is like a mainstay of the Arabic culture.
	They have not been doing a lot of stand-up, the Al-Qaeda.
	This weekend at the Comedy Store, quote...
	They, meaning the brothers, were jihadi autodidacts.
	Wow!
	And no one person shaped all of their thinking.
	Jihadi autodidacts, John.
	How does that work?
	Mary Ellen O'Toole, former profiler for the FBI, said she doubted that Mr.
	Sarnoff's extremist American readings would have formed his opinions, but they could have reaffirmed them.
	So far we've got 9-11, Oklahoma City, we have Hating Jews, we have, what else was it?
	Oh, Jewish Lobby, Jews Run Congress.
	Homegrown radicals in there with autodidact.
	Autodidact, we've got the Newtown.
	Which means the self-taught.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Let's just throw one more on top of it.
	Mr.
	Sarnoff also had a marked-up copy of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
	Are you kidding me?
	What did they have some sort of a checklist?
	Can you add this?
	Can you add that?
	This is like Leno on that clip where he starts throwing New York, New York Times, Ellsberg, stand-up guy, stripper girlfriend, just throws all the memes in at once.
	It's like a meme dump.
	Are you familiar with this whole idea, the protocols of the elders of Zion?
	Yeah, everybody is.
	No, I don't think everybody is.
	But it is what people who call others out as conspiracy theorists and nutjobs, they love pulling out these protocols of the elders of Zion.
	And here, the Wall Street Journal is kind enough to explain to us what it is.
	A long discredited tract penned in Russia at the beginning of the 20th century.
	It describes an alleged plan by Jewish leaders to take over the world!
	Mr.
	Sarnoff scrawled 22 words he translated from English to Russian on a back page, beginning with Gentile and ending with Mason.
	Gentile Mason.
	And the Wall Street Journal, they just have, I mean, they're just stumbling.
	Do they walk and just open some guy's apartment and all this evidence is all over the floor?
	Where's this coming from?
	This cannot be taken serious as journalism.
	No, somebody fed this to him, whoever it is.
	And, uh, I don't know.
	It's a very, uh, I'm sure it's a compelling read.
	Oh my God!
	It's really...
	What next?
	Holy crap!
	You mean they even believe that stupid old book?
	Oh my God!
	Oh!
	And he uses the word autodidacticism.
	Dude!
	Autodidacticismism.
	Jihadi autodidact.
	Wow.
	I'm bicurious autodidact.
	Okay, well that's definitely the piece of crap article of the day.
	But BBC has a very similar article.
	The Wall Street Journal expanded in a better way, which is more fun to read.
	Well, it's more Americanized.
	BBC can only put up with so much of that stuff.
	Hey, did we not put in the Red Book somewhere that tour that, you know, everyone was talking, you know, everyone was like, oh, get tour, get on the Onion Router, get on the Tudor.
	No, it never went in the Red Book, but you have mentioned it, and what you've done, you've mentioned it.
	JC, I know Buzzkill Jr.
	is always harping on this.
	It was developed for the government.
	And it's a government project.
	And I've always said, who the hell would want to use that if it was developed by the government?
	It's got to be compromised.
	Oh, gee, what turns out, it's compromised.
	It's compromised.
	Yeah, all those outlets are all...
	And people are getting arrested.
	Wow!
	The funny thing about Tor, I always thought, was that you volunteered to be a Tor outlet.
	For people that don't know, we can explain it quickly.
	Go ahead, please.
	It's called the Onion Router, and what happens is you send a packet into this, it's like a cloud, but it's an onion in it, and it gets encrypted and de-encrypted and swapped around and switched to here to there, and the IP's changed, and it pops out at some anonymous port.
	As, you know, just shows up and comes out this weird port that's got an IP that's hooked to the guy who ever owns that port.
	And guys are always getting in trouble because a lot of kiddie porn and stuff would go through his port at home because he was a volunteer, supposedly.
	And I kept hearing these stories.
	This is what got me suspicious.
	I kept hearing these stories about people who said, I'm going to be part of the tour network and I'm going to be one of the exit ports.
	And then the guy would always supposedly be picked up by the cops every so often because what was coming out of his port with his specific IP address was all kinds of weird junk.
	Yeah.
	And I said, well, then nobody would ever become a volunteer to be an exit port unless they were in the government and they didn't have to worry about all this harassment from law enforcement.
	Exactly.
	And ta-da!
	Ta-da!
	That's exactly what happened.
	Yeah.
	So nuts.
	The giant voice system, now that, you know, I'm just seeing stories about this every single day.
	People are getting pretty annoyed by their iPhones with Amber Alerts.
	You know, your iPhone, iOS 6, but I got some guys who are running iOS 7, and the Amber Alerts are just popping off day and night.
	And I think you can turn off some, but you may not be able to turn off the giant voice system when the president needs to address you.
	And Jeff Pelton, one of our producers, sent me a screenshot.
	Now, you tell me what's wrong with this.
	So, it's Monday, August 5th.
	He sent me a screenshot.
	I see AT&T 4G Amber Alert!
	Boulevard, California, amber alert, license plate, CWCU-986, California, blue Nissan Versa, four-door.
	What's wrong with this?
	I don't know.
	It's not...
	It's just...
	It's alerting me to a car.
	Yeah.
	It's not telling me what's going on.
	It's not saying that...
	Oh, they had that exact same Amber Alert all over yesterday on all the freeways that normally tell you it takes 10 minutes to get here or there.
	Right.
	It says child abduction.
	No, no, but it doesn't say that.
	Oh, why not?
	That's my question.
	So now the government is just like, oh, we just need to find Dvorak.
	Lexus!
	White!
	1982!
	License!
	It's not saying that this is a child abduction.
	Well, yeah, that's what you want to do.
	You want to slowly devolve the system.
	Exactly.
	So it's got nothing to do with Amber.
	Exactly.
	And it's just you're trying to get this.
	It'll be bank robbers, and it'll be citizens that are of interest, persons of interest.
	Yes, yes, exactly.
	Well, hello!
	Yeah, but we still need to tell people about this.
	Yeah, we do, and that's what we're doing.
	But, yeah, that would be expected.
	Yeah, we got this system.
	Let's use it.
	In fact, there was a situation in Seattle where they had a real Amber Alert, but these idiot cops decided, just do it after rush hour.
	It'll slow down traffic too much.
	The girl ended up dead or something.
	Oops.
	I got an off-the-wall one here.
	So, first I heard this commercial and I said, oh, this is interesting because, you know, somebody's finally paying attention to the high fructose corn syrup controversy, even though you have this huge lobby, corn lobby, that was just promoting the sweetener, right?
	Yeah, I got the clip.
	We know about this.
	And so I listened to this commercial and it's so well done and it's such a blast against high fructose corn syrup in terms of putting a meme to pound a hoe.
	Everyone has this sense of it.
	You know, I don't know, maybe I shouldn't be eating the ketchup.
	I should get the organic.
	It's got sugar.
	I think the sugar lobby actually wrote this and scripted this.
	Not only them, but some really refined public relations person.
	Because when you walk away from this Yo Play commercial that just came out about we don't use it anymore.
	We don't use high fructose corn syrup anymore because you told us not to.
	Yo, the wise public.
	I think this is the biggest slam, the biggest threat to the industry there is I've ever seen.
	Listen to this.
	When you asked us to remove high fructose corn syrup from Yoplait Original and Light, we were like, sure, no problem.
	And you were like, thanks, but what about thick and creamy and whipped?
	And we were like, done and done.
	Now it's out of everything Yoplait makes.
	And you were all, yum!
	And we're like, is it just us, or has this been a really good conversation?
	And you were like, I want to talk, but my mouth is full of yogurt.
	Yoplait, it is so good.
	You had me at thick and creamy.
	So, you know, that was the actress that was on Friends.
	Yeah, that's what I was saying.
	Thick and creamy.
	Yeah, she's going on.
	No, but she's expensive.
	Yeah.
	The commercial's well-structured, and the visuals show the yogurt, and it says, no HFC, no high fructose, no, no, no.
	And I first said, well, this is a good step in the right direction.
	Then I realized that I'm watching...
	Obviously, sugar industry finally got their act together.
	Yeah, they got the right people.
	They're getting the right message out.
	And they use sexual overtones.
	It's perfect.
	Yeah, there's tons of it.
	That's how you do it.
	Kind of that sound like she's got the dick in her mouth.
	Yeah.
	I'm too busy.
	Wait a minute.
	Who was the actress?
	Lisa Kudrow.
	Oh, yeah.
	And she's kind of...
	She's sexy in a kinky way.
	Yeah, I guess.
	That's probably one way of describing it.
	But that commercial is a work of art.
	Yeah.
	In terms of propaganda.
	Well, that's what it is.
	It's all propaganda, but that's okay.
	Lisa Kudrow.
	Yeah.
	She's funny.
	I like her.
	Yeah, and she's the one who can pull off the mumbling sound while she's talking.
	And I don't think people understand that the sex thing is huge in these commercials.
	And I mean, the way it's thick and creamy.
	It's like, yeah, I want some...
	You can't talk because my mouth is full.
	It's full of thick and creamy.
	Write that down as a potential show title, John.
	Thick and creamy.
	Yeah.
	You know, we're about to get into thanking our producers, and something popped up on my screen a couple days ago that I thought would help us.
	We have new people coming on to the show all the time, and I wanted to...
	Give an example of why we chose for the model that we've chosen, which is the value-for-value model where you get the show for free, the show is out there, you don't ever have to do anything, enjoy it, whatever you do, but we will ask you to consider if you are paying for other things in your life that perhaps give you less value, certainly on the entertainment scale and perhaps on the news and information scale.
	And we do this because we can't talk the way we talk about things with any type of commercial conflict.
	It doesn't work.
	And this is what the mainstream, which is essentially kind of minority media these days, less and less people are...
	Was it Bezos bought the Washington Post?
	I'm like, wow, $250 million, and it's 400,000 people subscribed to it?
	Yeah.
	That's not a lot.
	No, but it's Washington that subscribes to it.
	I want to talk about the Washington Post.
	I'm just saying that it's...
	Yes, it's the minority.
	It makes total sense.
	Washington is the minority of the country, and that's that little thing.
	And I want to talk with you about that, because you actually wrote a column about it, which I think was interesting.
	But this is...
	The conflict that is going on right now between NBC News and NBC Entertainment.
	Have you been following this?
	No, no, not really.
	So NBC News...
	So there's a couple of Hillary series and documentaries coming out.
	Oh, yeah, yeah, this.
	This is great.
	So NBC Entertainment, who can't buy a hit...
	It's coming out with a, I think it's a series, a mini-series or a series about Hillary Clinton.
	And NBC News, of course, is conflicted about this.
	But here is, this has so many layers to it.
	It's just, you know, two minutes a figure, just listen to it.
	So you can hear...
	The dissatisfaction internally, how you're being deprived of information because of worthless chewing gum crap that has to be put on instead of information, where the real money is in the broadcast industry.
	And it's funny because this is Chuck Todd of NBC News on MSNBC with the morning jerk-off show, and they're complaining about NBC. It's many, many layers of wrong.
	The two entities are sometimes at war with each other.
	I can't tell you how many fights we've had internally about whether to cover, you know, we want to cover some live news event.
	Those guys on the West Coast, they want to run some rerun of Parks and Recreation or whatever.
	I love how someone is so in touch he actually says Doogie Howser.
	Which I don't think has been on television for 15 years.
	This is how in touch these people are.
	At least.
	Because they'll make money that way and they don't want to, you know, and so there's, it's actually the relationship is...
	It's bad.
	It's never great.
	It's either okay or really bad.
	I can't believe we're airing our corporate dirty laundry.
	That's the way business works.
	Let me just say, though, the thing is, the fact that Nicole, who comes here and is a good bid and that you've worked for other networks, asked me before, hey, is there a real division, makes you realize that people really don't understand that, Chuck, as you just said.
	That's right.
	Like, news hates entertainment.
	And this is the joke.
	The thing that is not discussed here is that news promotes the entertainment by design.
	Because that's the only way they can suck up to these guys to keep doing news shows is by promoting the stupid entertainment division.
	What?
	I was going to say, in fact, we have even on local channels, but generally on 60 Minutes, for example, you'll see a lot of this.
	They'll be promoting a Viacom star, and they'll have them on and do a great in-depth thing, because Viacom, you know, is related.
	Right.
	But on local channels, it says, oh, who's going to be on Letterman tonight?
	Oh, gee, let me ask.
	What's Jay or what's Lindsay Lohan up to today?
	I was just pondering, who's Jay going to have on tonight?
	Got it.
	Anytime, you know, we take up precious time that they can sell ads, you know, promoting America's Got Talent.
	And hear the disdain they have for shows that are actually making money.
	Notice the sneer he said that way.
	No, and I say that, hey, actually, please, NBC Entertainment, can you please make some money?
	You know, that's what we're all trying to do.
	Oh no, you didn't just make fun of the boss!
	Thank God for all of the cable channels, right?
	Yeah, Bravo, USA, number one network.
	But the real issue is the fact that Nicole didn't know that.
	You also have to understand what they just said there.
	Thank God for all the cable channels.
	The reason they say that is because these productions, which NBC can't buy a hit with, would cost too much money if they didn't have these secondary markets where they can have reruns going forever on Bravo and all these other channels.
	TNT. That's somebody who's well informed about sort of the machinations of how the media works.
	This is why this miniseries is a total nightmare for NBC News.
	Because it doesn't, you know, we know there's this giant firewall.
	We know we have nothing to do with it.
	We know that we'd love probably to be as critical or whatever it is going to be if it comes out.
	But there's nothing we can do about it.
	And we're going to only own the negative.
	Whether it's negative because, you know, the Clinton people are upset that it's too tough on them.
	Or negative because the Republicans think it's this glorification of her.
	No matter what, Only we are going to own it because people are going to see the peacock and they see NBC and they see NBC News and they think, Well, they can't be that separate.
	So you get the negative and they get the cash.
	Correct.
	Sounds right.
	I've been in a lot of deals like that before.
	I'd like to be on the other side of that deal sometimes.
	And there you have it.
	They all really want to be in show business where the real money is.
	That's a good kicker.
	A subtle but little point made at the end.
	Yeah, I'd rather be over there with the pretty girls.
	I'm going to show myself by donating to no agenda.
	Exactly.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on no agenda in the morning.
	All right, we do have a lot of people to thank today.
	We do have a little special promotion for the anniversary.
	Since we were married on 8888, we asked for $88.88.
	And you know what this shows to me?
	I thought about this, and I'm like, wow, a lot of people really came in with their donations for 8888, and it shows to me that people, despite what you think and popular opinion, really do like you.
	Well, they like Mimi.
	I'm kidding, but it's a very family-type thing.
	I really love seeing this.
	No, it's a family run.
	This is essentially the family that keeps the show going.
	Exactly.
	And we have the big daddy, Grand Duke Pelsmacher and all the others.
	Miguel Espinallo, $150 from New York, New York.
	Miguel says, think hell but replace the H with a G. I got the way to pronounce it.
	I'm in California.
	If I can't pronounce Miguel, I don't know what I can do.
	He's had some comments.
	Have you ever decided to come to New York?
	I got the friends and family hookup at the Marriott.
	Okay.
	Get a deal at the Marriott.
	It's fine with me.
	There's the down to Marriott and Tiny Square is a nice, big but nice hotel.
	So what kind of deal can we get?
	I don't know.
	He doesn't say.
	I like it.
	Let's find out.
	Mark Borghese in Lost Wages, Nevada, 9131.
	It's a penny.
	This is an 8888 donation, but he's made a switcheroo on it.
	That's a penny for every day of John and Meary's marriage.
	9,131 days, but who's counting?
	Well, apparently I am.
	Imagine if you'd put a penny aside every day.
	Yeah, you'd have 91 bucks.
	Big deal.
	Oh, oh, wow, whoa.
	I'm not demeaning the donation.
	I'm just saying that this is the way you'd save money for being married for 25 years.
	You ended with less than 100 bucks.
	You can't even, you know, get a decent meal nowadays.
	The lords, dames, knights, slaves, and elites.
	Please be upstanding for another donation from the Grand Duke von Pelsmachern.
	You know, eventually, you do just get jingles on this show.
	We hope to make it an all-jingle show.
	Imagine an all-jingle donation segment where it's just one after another.
	Yeah, that would be nice.
	He wanted to donate in the day itself.
	We squeezed him into today's spreadsheet, and he says, happy anniversary.
	Nietzschev Anatoly from Russia, 88, 88.
	Along with my congratulations to John and Mimi, I'd like to remind everybody that five years ago at midnight of 888-08-2008, Georgia led by crazy, Thai-eating maniac and bush puppet Saxvili.
	Saxvili opened MRL fire on the capital of South Ossetia and started a tank assault on the city, killing hundreds of Ossetian civilians and 10 Russian peacekeepers.
	Russia's military answer was treated by Western media as unprovoked aggression, and only, only no agenda was bang on from the start.
	That's right.
	Albeit a late start.
	But that's still in the lexicon.
	Everyone will say, oh man, Russia attacked Georgia.
	No!
	Georgia attacked Russia and it's been admitted, but no one remembers it that way.
	Right.
	Well, we have one Russian who's donated to the anniversary amount because he remembers that the show is like that.
	We have a lot of stuff that we've brought up.
	Well, it's like the forced landing, which I have a little clip of another version.
	Apparently, Glenn Greenwald has kind of changed the way he structures his wording because of that fake forced landing that took place with the guy from Bolivia.
	Anyway, names of people.
	These are all 8888 donors.
	Jason Doolin and Lost Wages.
	Sir Bernie Atima in Hinton, Iowa.
	Wayne Larcombe in Sunnybank Hills, Queensland.
	Sir Thomas Nussbaum in Virginia Beach, Virginia.
	Kent O'Rourke, Frostburg, Maryland.
	Ricardo Zanotti in Camarillo.
	Camarillo, Brillo.
	Marislav Marinov.
	Aliso Viejo.
	Sir Barinoff, exactly.
	Borislav Marinoff.
	Sir, Aliso Viejo.
	Sir Bill Hertha in Thornhill, Ontario.
	Barron, Sir Dr.
	Sharkey.
	Craig Whiting, East Kilbride.
	Larry Stewart, Norman, Oklahoma.
	Michael Miller over here in Tiburon, California.
	John Schuman in Madison, Wisconsin.
	Jacob Scherer in Crystal, Minnesota.
	Minnesota Nuts.
	Daniel McTough in Silver Springs, Maryland.
	Wade Deming in Anchorage, Alaska.
	Richard Gardner in Enmore, New South Wales.
	Chad Christian in Erie, Colorado.
	Hey, Chad. - Chad. - Say, uh.
	Congratulations, John and Mimi.
	Here's more value for value.
	The show armed me with talking points and a short temper when confronted with friends spouting mainstream media memes the other night.
	Lost some friends, but saved my sanity.
	That's right.
	No agenda where you lose your friends.
	And that concludes our 8888 segment.
	I will point out that 8888 also, if you send, so you have 73s, which is, you know, hey, see you, nice to meet you.
	But 88s is hugs and kisses, John, in case you didn't know.
	That's also kind of a nice extra bonus to the meme.
	Hugs and kisses.
	And I would also like to say, on behalf of the Curry family, happy anniversary to you and Mimi.
	Well, thank you very much.
	But I'm not giving you any $88.
	Now, I thought one of these guys had actually come with 88, and I'm looking for it on here.
	I'll have to thank him later, but one of the donors came with, I thought it was 8800.
	Before the mailing request went out, he was actually the first one, and I'm going to have to now dig his email up.
	Paul Groves in Wangaretta, Victoria, Australia, 7451.
	John Karma worked the last time, got an interview, even after Adam stepped on John.
	Wow!
	Who is about to read my note.
	Luckily, John managed to slip in my karma request by the time this is read, but be more hours away from having said interview.
	It'll be a job karma top-off, please.
	Can you give him a job karma, I guess?
	Well, I'll give him a top-up.
	You're in charge of the top-offs, okay?
	That's your job.
	I'm not touching that.
	Hey!
	We've got karma.
	And, ladies and gentlemen, 69!
	69!
	69 is still alive, and we're going to just name people who gave it out here, including, again, Michael Miller, who sent to 6969 and over here from Timberman, fearful.
	That we're going to lose the thread, but not the case.
	So Michael Miller in Tiburon, Jennifer Harley in Waterloo, Ontario, with a great birthday call-out coming.
	Paul Vela in Milton Keynes, Buckinghamshire.
	Sure, sure.
	Buckinghamshire.
	Buckinghamshire.
	UK. Kristen Drinzik in Palmer, Alaska.
	Hmm.
	Aaron Murphy in Rio Rancho, New Mexico.
	R.M. Donovan in Leiden, no comment.
	John Haller in Missoula, Montana.
	He says, any show that mentions H.V. Coltenborn deserves my support.
	And then there's Dan Sorkin.
	Baroness Tanya of Manhattan comes in with 6969 saying, she sent me a hand, she wrote a check.
	Long hand, long hand note from the Baroness, I presume, yes.
	She says, after leaving, after hearing, her H's look like L's.
	How much PayPal takes off the top of the donation?
	I am switching to checks.
	Nice.
	I'm planning to set up a monthly check payment from my bank.
	No postage, no fees, and it's just as easy as PayPal.
	All the best to the best podcasts in the universe.
	By the way, I can write in cursive, but I won't subject you to that.
	What is this then?
	You know, I was reading about this, that if you write notes in longhand, it's very difficult.
	Machines can't really...
	Optical character recognition doesn't work very well on longhand.
	Right, especially the one that they use on your mail.
	So you want to do your address in all block letters.
	But you want to write all your notes on longhand.
	I think that we need to be returning back to the days of longhand and Morse code.
	It essentially looks like code to the machine.
	It does.
	It's like, oh, I don't know what this is.
	It's encrypted.
	It's encrypted.
	I don't know if we can break the algorithm.
	Matthew Roman in Huntersville, North Carolina, 6969.
	And finally, Edward Hines in Jacksonville, Florida.
	And that wraps it up.
	69!
	69, dude!
	That's good.
	That's good.
	Keep it going, people.
	A few others.
	We got 5533 from Nathan Craddock in Los Angeles.
	He had his PayPal weekly subscription cancelled.
	This keeps happening.
	And it's bad enough that the subscription gets cancelled, but then they send you a note saying, no agenda show!
	Those guys don't want your money!
	It's no good!
	It's no good for them!
	Who has cancelled your subscription?
	That's pretty much what it says.
	And apparently this Nathan guy loves it when I refer to Rex, the fantastic coding, or actually scripting more of it.
	I think I've referred to Rex more than you have, but okay.
	You wrote the book, that's the difference.
	Jonathan Rose, double nickels on the dime from Netanya, Israel.
	He says the latest stipend from the Mossad for my propagation of the Jewish agenda.
	Good work!
	He says, sorry it's only a pittance, but of course we Jews are cheap.
	Jay Colin Beck in Edmonton, Alberta.
	Another double nickels on the dime.
	And we'll give some karma to him at the end for house relocation.
	And finally, $50 each from Daniel Eber, Christopher Walker, John Anderson, Lafayette, Louisiana, Paul Levy in Grinelli, Iowa.
	Let me slide this up a little bit.
	Patrick Macom in Spartanburg, South Carolina.
	And finally, Mac Harbor, LLC in Winnipeg, Manitoba, home of the Jets.
	And finally, Sir Alan Bean again over here in Oakland.
	He's a monthly regular.
	I want to thank them and everybody else who helped us out.
	There's a bunch of people with all kinds of comments here.
	I got a note from the back office about a special request from Jennifer Harley, who was one of our 69 Swazilov donors.
	I'd really appreciate it if you could give a shout-out to my husband, Zenon.
	He'd also love it if you called him a real stand-up shittison, or something similar, including the word shittison.
	That's the most important thing.
	He listens to you religiously, and this was the best birthday present I could think of for him.
	He'll be so happy he might even do a dance.
	You know, it's always lovely when spouses hand in a donation for their loved one.
	Yeah, I think this is fantastic.
	And I bet he is a real stand-up shittison.
	I don't know what kind of a toilet you'd use.
	Thick and creamy.
	She said thick and creamy, didn't she?
	No, that was the other girl.
	No, I know, but the Lisa girl.
	Yeah, no, Lisa said thick and creamy.
	Thick and creamy.
	We have a show twice a week, and we don't have a network.
	We do have a back office consisting of family members of John, which is fine.
	It's a low-budget operation.
	We do our best.
	We do our best, and I think that we deliver you value, and if you don't think so, fine.
	Just enjoy for free, and if you do, then help support us.
	You can do that by going to Dvorak.org slash NA.
	It's interesting.
	The back office has Jennifer Harley's note in the birthday list as well.
	Yeah.
	So, hey, Xenon, you're a real stand-up citizen.
	And Sir Bernie Adama, belated shout-out to his son, John, who celebrated on August 5th.
	Happy birthday from your friends here at the best podcast in the universe.
	Yes!
	Now we have some title changes.
	Let's see.
	We've got Thomas Pugliard, who becomes Baron Thomas of Bahrain.
	The Baron of Bahrain.
	And he can divvy that up however he wants to.
	And we've got two knightings, which you're going to take care of.
	So you grab your blade there, John.
	Yep, got it.
	Perfect.
	Perfect.
	Josh McDonald, step forward, along with William Ashby.
	Gentlemen, both of you today join the Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	Thank you very much for your donations.
	The amount of $1,000 or more, I hereby pronounce thee Sir Funk and Sir William, Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	Gentlemen, hookers and blow, red boys and chardonnay, hot pants and booze, long-haired heavy metal guys and scotch winches and beer, Ruben S. women and rosé, geishers and sake, vodka and vanilla, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling side and escorts, mutton and mead, and breast milk and pablo.
	Thank you.
	Right here for you at the round table.
	Ah, yes.
	Thank you very much.
	And remember that you can, if you have received your knighthood, go to noagendanation.com slash rings.
	That's where you can fill out all the information pertinent to your ring, which, of course, you can go out and hit people in the mouth with.
	Thank you again for all of your support, and thank you also for the love that you've shown for John and Mimi.
	Very nice.
	You know, Ms.
	Mickey and I had our anniversary, and I don't think we even talked about it.
	Which is dumb.
	We could have gotten one dollar from everybody for our first anniversary.
	One.
	Hell yeah, that's something.
	We almost, let's see, August, I think August 20th.
	Is it 20th?
	Hold on a second.
	What is the, I think it was the 20th.
	It was on a show day that we both quit smoking.
	It's almost been a year.
	You got married the day you quit smoking?
	No.
	Our wedding gift to each other was that we would quit smoking.
	Oh.
	The 25th.
	No re-gifting.
	No trade-ins.
	Oh, and I also must give karma to everybody who requested it.
	You've got karma.
	Perfect.
	Yeah, August 25th is our one-year no-smoking anniversary.
	I think that's pretty good.
	I'm pretty proud.
	Yeah, well you should be, and hopefully you can just never smoke again.
	Going back to the Netherlands, and everyone's smoking around there.
	Oh, I forgot to mention something.
	As bad as Denmark.
	I forgot to mention something.
	When we arrived, was it yesterday, the day before yesterday, last Tuesday night, whatever, from Atlanta in Austin, as we're coming into land...
	I see the emergency crash vehicles with their lights somewhere off the, you know, like on the apron or whatever, off the runway.
	And, you know, I'm not going to go, you know...
	This is in Hartsfield.
	No, this is Bergstrom, Austin.
	So we're landing in Austin.
	And upon approach, I look over, because I'm always, you know, I'm a pilot, so I'm looking at what's going on.
	I see the crash vehicles.
	I'm like...
	Well, that's weird that they've got their lights flashing.
	I'm like, hmm.
	So there's a couple of possibilities.
	One is, we're on fire and no one has told us.
	That's very possible.
	Look, is there any foam on the runway?
	No, I don't see any foam.
	And, you know, perfect landing.
	Everything's fine.
	And then the captain comes on the horn, and he says, you know, ladies and gentlemen, as we're taxiing in, when we get to the gate, I'd like you to wait for a moment so the honor guard can get off the plane first, who are accompanying a fallen soldier who we transported back home to Austin.
	And this is really weird, you know, because you're happy to be home, and then all of a sudden this...
	And the whole plane goes...
	Like, complete silence.
	You know, I was like, wow.
	So, you know, ding.
	We're at the gate, and then everyone waits.
	But maybe five minutes, right?
	And then everyone's getting up, because I guess the guy...
	Remember, we got the first class upgrade, so I couldn't see what was going on behind us.
	But right underneath my window...
	Well, Dave, wait, hold on a second.
	Didn't the honor guard, weren't they on the plane getting, oh, there was a coffin in the plane, but no honor guard on the plane?
	The honor guard was outside, so they had to get the coffin out.
	No, so you have the guys who accompany the coffin on the plane.
	Did they get off?
	Let me backtrack for a second.
	So as we land, now we're taxiing towards the gate.
	I see what the crash vehicles are.
	They've got the honor guard, they've got the hearse, they've got everything.
	There are two fire trucks, and they start like a bridge of water, so the plane goes underneath an arc of water, which kind of gave me goosebumps, actually.
	That was kind of honoring the fall.
	That was cool.
	Yeah, it was like, wow.
	Everyone was really quiet.
	So the honor guard who accompanied the coffin, they got off first.
	And everyone's like getting off.
	And right underneath my window, I see the cargo door open.
	And I actually put a picture on my blog.
	If you go to blog.curry.com, you can see it right there.
	I took a number of pictures because I witnessed this entire scene taking place.
	It was chilling, John.
	I see the coffin coming out.
	I see the honor guard coming up.
	I see the family.
	I see maybe wife or sister falling to the ground, collapsing in grief.
	Just grief.
	It was really, really hurtful.
	I couldn't get up.
	I felt it would be wrong to not wait until this coffin, this soldier, was in the hearse and gone.
	I couldn't do it.
	And there were maybe three or four other people in the whole plane.
	But also no one said, hey, you've got to get off.
	That was nice.
	I'm just sitting there in awe.
	Hey, get out!
	Don't watch that.
	But, you know, it was really...
	It touched me...
	You posted a picture...
	Yeah.
	Sorry.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	You posted a picture that never gets posted.
	This is the point.
	And it's a good picture.
	I would advise people to go to blog.curry.com because this is the picture that the mainstream media...
	Never.
	...won't post.
	Nope.
	They decided, no.
	We're not going to do that.
	It's not on television.
	They never show this.
	And I do this from time to time.
	And you look it up.
	This past week, another eight servicemen and women died.
	You don't hear about it.
	They never talk about it.
	And during the Vietnam War, every night they showed the flag-draped coffins, and that really changes your perception.
	It really makes you think about what's going on.
	In fact, we went to...
	You don't need to see this, boy.
	They've collectively decided that, right?
	I mean, we've talked about this.
	These wars have not been televised.
	You don't see the death and destruction.
	Right.
	We went to Christina, my daughter.
	By the way, this is on purpose because they know it would disgust the public and they'd get pissed and they'd vote these idiots out of office.
	But the media plays the game and that's the end of it.
	So these guys stay.
	Exactly.
	That picture taken with an iPhone 5, by the way, not bad, huh?
	No, because while you're shooting it through a piece of crap plastic, I still think it's actually a good picture.
	It's got a nice composition.
	It's a great shot.
	It's a good picture.
	And you see off to the right, there's the family.
	I didn't post the shots, but the woman was just...
	She's collapsed.
	She's crying.
	She's sobbing on the ground.
	And you don't know the story.
	You don't know exactly who's who.
	But you do know the story.
	That's kind of it.
	You do know the story.
	And then I tried to Google.
	I want to know who is this kid.
	You can't even find a single story about a soldier coming home to Austin.
	Nothing.
	Nothing.
	Flabbergasting to me.
	Welcome.
	Welcome.
	We were at this, so Christina and her girlfriend said, oh, you know, we want to hang out with you guys.
	Let's go and let's do something fun.
	Let's go to a red carpet premiere of a movie in Amsterdam.
	And, you know, it'll be cool.
	We'll look like a family unit, you know, which, of course, we're an odd bunch together.
	But it'll be fun.
	And we'll go see a movie and we'll have dinner afterwards.
	We'll hang out.
	So they had kind of put together this whole afternoon, night.
	And we go to see, so we go to do the red carpet premiere in Amsterdam of The Lone Ranger.
	Duh!
	Considered by most to be one of the worst movies ever made.
	No, no.
	It is not the worst movie ever made.
	It is the biggest piece of crap worst movie ever made.
	And it takes, it drags on forever.
	But we do the red carpet, and then what happens is you stand there for pictures and video, and then we go in, and then there's always a couple of reporters, so-called reporters.
	And one of them said, you know, they kind of accost you, and it's part of the deal, you know, you kind of got to talk to them for a minute.
	And he said...
	Hey, you know, we have this thing, we're doing like, if you were Miss Universe, what would you want for the world?
	You're asking me this question?
	And just before I knew it, and this is Holland, the last time, they think I'm still a disc jockey at MTV. I don't know where I've been, what I've done.
	They have no clue.
	They really have no clue.
	And I say, well, you know, I would really like for us to stop dropping bombs from drones on brown people who live in the sand.
	And I'd like for the brown people to tell their leaders to stop trying to kill us over here.
	And you could just see the guy like, ooh, what?
	It just doesn't compute, you know?
	That ain't gonna be used.
	Who's that guy?
	Well, this is another thing.
	So, what you doing these days?
	How do you make money?
	Well, I carry Mickey's bag.
	And I set up her lights and stuff.
	And you're absolutely right.
	Did he say noagendashow.com?
	Should have given him a disc.
	Mickey promoted No Agenda.
	Big time.
	She got it in a big newspaper.
	Yeah.
	But they don't care.
	All they care about is...
	I'm glad somebody's doing their job.
	So, when are you guys going to have kids?
	That's the only thing they care about.
	So, you're going to have kids.
	You're going to have kids.
	It's really so stupid.
	And then my daughter, bless her, she jumps in and says, No!
	No, they're waiting for the grandkids.
	Me and my girlfriend are going to make them.
	And then they look at that.
	Well, how are you going to do that?
	And her girlfriend is like, oh, you don't see my cock hanging right here?
	It's very funny.
	They did broadcast that, actually.
	That was pretty funny.
	No.
	Yes.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Well, we've done Holland.
	You got left on the cutting room floor.
	I'm out.
	I'm just set dressing.
	Well, yeah, if you're going to go get a lecture about drones.
	They don't want to hear me.
	Oh.
	This is the greatest movie I've ever seen.
	I got a couple funny things now.
	We got some time here.
	We got about 20 minutes.
	I got some, I think, some pretty good clips.
	Jen Psaki, who, by the way, she is the new spokeshole, the red soulless devil, the ginger of the State Department, who has taken over for Vicki Newland, who now has slept her way to the top.
	I'll say it.
	Jen Psaki, by the way, appears quite often in the This Town book about Washington.
	And she's quite a mover and a shaker.
	She's the most condescending person I've ever seen in this job.
	Well, she and our friend Matt from Reuters have been going back and forth about the status of Egypt, because as we know, by law in the United States, by U.S. code, if this is a coup, if this hadn't been a A forceful regime change by the military, then all foreign aid must stop by law.
	So, of course, whatever we do, we don't want to call it a coup.
	And Matt is just, this guy, he's going to get some Boston breaks one of these days.
	Because he is just going at her and I think he finally got her a little bit flustered.
	Although not really because at the end of the day she just will stand there with a stone cold face and just not call it what it is.
	But listen to this exchange which I found to be quite entertaining.
	Absolutely.
	I have a question about Senator McCain's comments.
	You said our position has not changed, as you just did with Morsi.
	On McCain's comments, though, our position has not changed.
	Then you said the U.S. government has stated what our position is.
	Could you remind us all what your position actually is?
	Because, as I recall, your position was that you don't have a position, and that's not quite – is that correct?
	Matt, I think you know our position, which is that there was a determination made that we'd not need to make a designation.
	So your position is that you do not have a position?
	Our position is that we do not need to make a designation.
	Oh, go ahead, Nicholas.
	Does Deputy Secretary Burns plan to meet with President Morsi?
	We talked about it yesterday, but...
	I don't have any other plans for that on his schedule.
	I'll just go back to your answer to my question.
	Yes.
	You do understand that you don't have a position on this, don't you?
	We have not made a determination.
	You go and say our position has not changed, but you don't have a position.
	You don't have a position that could have changed.
	A position means taking a side, or taking a stance, or making a determination.
	And since you didn't do that, you do not, by definition, have a position.
	Correct?
	I would disagree with you, Matt.
	You have a position on whether what happened in Egypt was a coup?
	We have determined that we do not need to make a determination.
	Isn't that the same as not having a position?
	We have determined we don't have to make a determination.
	Where is the rest of the media people?
	How can we be a free country if this is just getting by?
	If this is just...
	Just let it go.
	It doesn't matter.
	We have made a determination.
	We don't need to make a determination.
	Hey, Matt!
	Shut up, slave!
	Shut up!
	God.
	I got some...
	Go ahead.
	I got some...
	I think I have a good...
	I have two things, and then I'll let you close it out.
	I've got a Glenn Greenwald clip, which is the gaffe of the week.
	Where was this extracted?
	Democracy Now.
	Are you ready?
	Oh, okay.
	Well, I have a couple of Democracy Now ones too, but we'll see what you have.
	By the way, how 80s is that music for Democracy Now?
	I was back announcing these songs.
	It was green green grass by the green grassers.
	The light lighters and the, you know, just give me a break.
	Tony Orlando and Dawn.
	Tony Orlando and Dawn with tie a yellow ribbon around the old oak tree.
	Hello everybody.
	Welcome to Democracy Now!
	Glenn Greenwald, your response and what happens now?
	Of course, I spoke to him before temporary asylum was granted by Russia, but of course it is temporary.
	And what is Edward Snowden saying to you about what his plans are now?
	Is this the period where he's continuing to push for asylum or will he make his home in Russia?
	But he really is considered to be quite a hero.
	I mean, he's a hero here.
	He's a hero in Asia.
	He's now a hero in Russia by all accounts.
	I think what you see is populations around the world really grateful to be able to have this information.
	As far as Mr.
	Snowden's spying plans are concerned, asylum plans are concerned.
	Did you hear it?
	What was the gaffe?
	I'll let you hear it again.
	I mean, he's a hero here.
	He's a hero in Asia.
	He's now a hero in Russia, by all accounts.
	I think what you see is populations around the world really grateful to be able to have this information.
	Okay, here it comes.
	As far as Mr.
	Snowden's spying plans are concerned, asylum plans are concerned.
	As far as Mr.
	Snowden's spying plans, asylum plans.
	Flying?
	Flying plans?
	Spying.
	Spying.
	Spying plans.
	Oh, I missed that.
	Maybe Mr.
	Snowden is a double agent.
	We suggested this right off the bat.
	But here's the gaffe.
	As far as his spying plans, I mean his asylum plans, that's a far cry from asylum to spying.
	Where does he come up with spying?
	It's on his brain.
	That's why he said it.
	Exactly.
	The human being cannot...
	Must tell the truth at all times.
	So they always, by gaffes if necessary.
	So, well, I mean, one of the theses was you just put this guy in such a situation that there's no way that you can, you got to place him someplace so he can make some, because he can hack computers, apparently.
	He's a genius at it, according to his father.
	So he can get into Russia, get a job at the Russian Facebook, and the next thing you know, he's got a bunch of stuff, and he's a hero.
	But then they can't do that either, because you can't announce your, you know, I don't know how they're going to do this, but I did get a new piece of information, which I thought was interesting, and I got some green wall clips, too, that I thought were very good.
	They're a little long.
	But I've got this clip of this, and unfortunately the guy's name is on the back of an envelope downstairs, so I can't tell you who it is, but he's one of these analysts that's got a Russian background, and he's discussing the Snowden information with the backdrop of Obama bailing out of the meeting that they were going to have, even though...
	You know, the meeting wasn't going to be productive anyway, and he kind of agrees with that.
	But this is the analysis of Obama-Putin with new information.
	There's a little tidbit in here that nobody knew about.
	President Obama mishandled the situation with Putin over Snowden.
	Explain what you mean by that, and is that how Russian officials that you've talked to felt?
	Snowden came to Russia not at the invitation of the Russian government.
	Actually, from what I was told, and it was confirmed to me by US officials, that the US government have informed the Russians about Snowden being on a plane from Hong Kong to Moscow only when the plane has already left Hong Kong.
	So, Snowden was traveling to Cuba.
	He was supposed to board a plane to Cuba, a Russian plane, next day.
	Then the US government goes to the Cubans, and despite a rather difficult US-Cuban relationship, the Cubans decided to accommodate the United States, and not to allow Snowden to go via Cuba.
	Here is Snowden at the Russian airport.
	He is there for less than six hours and the Secretary of State already warns Putin about consequences.
	And the State Department already expresses strong concern.
	And Senator Schumer warns Putin about terrible implications for the relationship and says that Putin put a knife in the American back.
	So this is about Cuba?
	Well, this seems a little sketchy to me.
	But why didn't Snowden take the tree?
	He had it all lined up.
	He could either go to Ecuador or Venezuela with a flight through Cuba.
	Now, according to this guy, the United States, when we don't even have any relations with Cuba, we supposedly hate them and we have all these sanctions.
	And I don't know if we can do any more sanctions.
	I guess we got a hold of somebody.
	I said, look, you're not going to let that Snowden guy lands in Cuba.
	You're turning him over to us or something.
	Or they say, you better just refuse the flight.
	Don't let Snowden into Cuba so he can't catch that flight to Venezuela.
	Now, I didn't know any of this, but it does explain why he didn't take the flight the next day and a bunch of journalists were stuck out there.
	It was never explained.
	As an addition to that, on Saturday...
	A surface combat squadron of the Russian Navy arrived in Cuba for the first time in four years.
	Friendly visit, they called it.
	They had the flagship of the Black Sea Fleet, the missile cruiser Moscow, and the large anti-submarine ship Vice Admiral Kulakov of the Northern Fleet and a number of supply and service ships.
	That's kind of close.
	Yeah, something is up.
	Alright, so I've got three Greenwall clips that are a little lengthy.
	One of them is really long.
	But I thought it was such a great rant that I have it.
	We can either play at the end or maybe after the show closes.
	It's long enough to be a show close.
	We don't need to talk about it.
	But I got a couple things here that are interesting, which is the...
	Green Wall.
	This is where he rephrases the force, you know, the, oh, the plane from Bolivia is forced down, which we've debunked with actual cockpit chatter.
	Do we want to play that again, or are people good?
	I think that we played it twice.
	I don't think we need to play it again.
	I just want to point out that the wording on the phrasing of the thing being forced down is interesting.
	Let me just reiterate then quickly.
	We have the cockpit recording of the FAB-0001, I think it is, which is the Bolivian president's plane, asking to land in Austria, saying that they have some fuel gauge malfunction, they want to check it out.
	There was no forced landing.
	They requested to land under a bogus, mind you, That's a very typical pilot trick is to say someone's sick, they're puking.
	You do that on a small plane.
	You can't declare an emergency, but we have something that's a little irritating, like we're not so sure about the fuel gauge, so we just want to go down and check it out.
	That is the truth.
	There was no forced landing.
	No one has admitted this as far as I know.
	Right.
	We're the only ones to discuss this.
	So anyway, and we have the evidence, and we can play the clip again.
	We've played it a couple times.
	We'll play it again in the future, I'm sure.
	So he changes his wording, but the funny thing is when they kick it back to Amy Goodman, I'm not sure I have the whole thing.
	She's back on the old script, and it's actually kind of funny.
	Greenwald has been a big propagator of this lie about the Bolivian aircraft being forced down.
	He has talked about this quite a bit.
	Right.
	Now, he has changed now, because he knows this is bogus, so he's changed the wording, so now instead of forced landing, it's all weasel words.
	And when you hear it, you roll your eyes, even though Amy Goodman's still on the old meme.
	Yeah.
	I think one of the things that the United States has done is really kind of show the world what its character is over the last two months through its really extreme and radical behavior.
	I mean, I can tell you here in Latin America what was really event-shifting was when they caused the plane of Ivo Morales to be downed in Austria by blocking airspace rights over...
	I think the final point to note about this is everyone in the world knows, probably except for Americans, that the United States routinely refuses to extradite all sorts of people accused of horrible crimes.
	I mean, in Bolivia, the ex-president, who's accused of all sorts of war crimes and was protected and propped up by the CIA, is living comfortably in the United States, which refuses to turn him over, and that's been true of other Latin Americans who have been accused of serious crimes of terrorism.
	So I think when the United States pretends to be outraged that they don't get what they want in extradition, everyone in the world knows that they frequently do the same thing in much more extreme cases.
	I think it's actually his...
	To say the plane was down, that's almost like being shot down.
	It's worse.
	He's making it worse.
	It's been downed by our friends.
	That's right.
	I called up my friends in Europe and said, down that plane!
	Yeah, well, I think, but he has changed it.
	No forced landing.
	It's now, you know, kind of...
	When is Greenwald going to stop?
	I don't know, but this one here I got here, the analysis of Obama-Putin with, I'm sorry, the best Greenwald rant ever.
	The guy, the two guys that head the Intelligence Committee, the Republican and the Democrat, the Democrat guy's a total douchebag.
	And he calls him out here, and I think this is really one of the most important things you can listen to.
	This is the best rant as it relates to this information.
	And we will continue to do that because what we're trying to do now is to get the American public to know more about what's going on, that NSA is following the law, and that we have checks and balances.
	We have the courts.
	We have both the Senate and House Intelligence Committee.
	We have Justice Department.
	We have checks and balances here to make sure that NSA does not violate the law in what they're doing.
	And you know, since these two programs have come into effect, especially the metadata, there has not been one incident of any member of the NSA breaking any law whatsoever.
	But we can do better.
	I have to educate my caucus more, the Democratic caucus, and we're trying to declassify as much as we can.
	That's Democratic Congressmember Dutch Ruppersberger.
	Glenn Greenwald, your response.
	I hope Dutch Ruppersberger takes a much more prominent role in the political debate because he's basically the embodiment of the rotted soul that has become the Democratic Party.
	Not only does his district encompass Fort Meade, which is the headquarters of the NSA, which explains in part why he is the stalwart, steadfast NSA loyalist, but he is almost drowning in cash from the defense and intelligence industries.
	He's the second leading recipient in the entire United States House of Representatives of money from those industries.
	And he then gets placed on the very committee that the church committee created in the mid-1970s to exercise oversight over the agency and the community that basically ensures that his coffers are stuffed full of cash.
	So, of course, he becomes the leading spokesperson for that agency and then goes around defending it and saying they've done nothing wrong and they're vital and indispensable.
	To our national security.
	That's the leading democrat on that committee.
	But the thing that he was asked was about, in terms of members of Congress being blocked from information, basic information, isn't my claim.
	Members of Congress came to me with this grievance and asked me to write about it.
	And they gave me correspondence between themselves and the Intelligence Committee.
	And what they were asking for was not very sensitive information.
	They were asking for the most basic things, things they read about in media accounts.
	Yeah.
	has been doing, spying on Americans domestically, is a violation of the Constitution and the law.
	There really is, Amy, an 85-page, 86-page ruling issued by the FISA court that says the government has been systematically breaking the law and violating the Fourth Amendment and how it spies on us.
	And not only can we not see that ruling, because it remains a secret at the insistence of the Obama administration, even our elected representatives in Congress, who were told are exercising robust oversight, are blocked from seeing it.
	And that's the correspondence that we published that was given to me by various House members.
	So yeah, they do get meetings with General Alexander where they get to raise their hand and ask questions.
	And General Alexander says, we're violating, we're not violating the law, and we are strictly adhering to what our guidelines are.
	He can say whatever he wants.
	They want to get the actual documents.
	That's how you exercise oversight and they're being denied it about the most basic information about both the NSA and the FISA court.
	Yeah, I have a similar clip, which I won't play, about that last part, about this report, which...
	Now, Greenwald, the difference in the clip I had in yours is that he says it's 84, 85 pages.
	This, of course, is the document that I'm just salivating.
	I'm dying to get my hands on.
	And I think I have a piece of the puzzle.
	I've been watching this guy, this Inglis, who was the second-in-command under Kaiser Alexander.
	Yeah, slick Inglis.
	Yeah, this is the guy who our insiders are telling us will become the replacement for Janet Napolitano at DHS. No one is talking about the guy as being the replacement, but our insiders, who I trust, are saying that he is teed up and he's very, very well connected.
	He's got the look, kind of nondescript douchebag spook.
	He's got the voice.
	And he said something on June 8th, I believe, when he was asked, which gives away part of, I think, how they're circumventing the law.
	So let me just, for the record, state, is NSA spying today, or have you spied on American citizens?
	We do not target U.S. persons anywhere in the world without a specific court warrant.
	And does the NSA listen to the phone calls of American citizens?
	We do not target or listen to the telephone calls of U.S. persons under that targeting without a specific court warrant.
	Does the NSA read the emails of American citizens?
	Same answer, ma'am.
	Does the NSA read the text messages of American citizens?
	Again, we do not target the content of US person communications without a specific warrant anywhere on the earth.
	Aha!
	But that could be from space.
	Why would he say anywhere on the earth?
	He didn't say anywhere on earth.
	He said anywhere on the earth.
	So you're saying by implication that he's referring to pulling down all the communications that runs through the satellite systems.
	Yep.
	Yep.
	That's a stretch, but I like it.
	Well, we'll see.
	Because this document, this FISA court document, it will surface eventually.
	It's out there.
	Someone has it.
	What's known?
	They're probably trying to destroy all copies.
	As we speak.
	As we speak, but it won't happen.
	There's one more thing that I got out of Greenwald in this long thing.
	It's another longish clip, but...
	I think we knew this, but we didn't think about it.
	But I think Greenwald brings up a topic which calls out Wyden and these other guys who are always acting like they're trying to help the public.
	And he mentioned something, and I need to be reminded.
	This is Greenwald.
	Senators can say what they want on the floor of Congress.
	They can tell the biggest secrets.
	They can say whatever because they're immune.
	Yes, play this clip.
	Let me ask you something.
	The former Alaska Senator Mike Revell, who is the one who got the Pentagon Papers put into the congressional record and then had them published by Beacon Press, the whole thousands of pages, he said that the senators who have been really sounding the alarms, people like Senator Udall, Senator Wyden, of course, ones who've been warning Americans in sort of cryptic ways, saying you've got to find out about this, could actually go much further now that so much has been released by you and even the Obama administration.
	Right, well, there's an article in Foreign Policy Magazine over the weekend by the Yale Law Professor, Bruce Ackerman, that makes the same point.
	Remember, United States Senators have full constitutional immunity against prosecution for anything that they say on the floor of the Senate.
	And Daniel Osberg, when he was trying to get people to read the Pentagon Papers, actually wanted to get Mike Gravel and other Senators to go to the floor of the Senate and read the Pentagon Papers because they would have been immune from prosecution.
	As much as I like the fact that Ron Wyden and Mark Udall have been sounding the alarms for a couple of years, winking and hinting at Americans that they would be shocked to learn all the things that the Obama administration is doing in secret, they didn't have the courage to tell us what those things were that they thought we should know.
	Mr.
	Snowden to come forward, who doesn't have immunity, and tell us.
	And interestingly, the very first interview I ever did on ABC about this case, I was followed by Senator Udall, and they asked Senator Udall about Edward Snowden, and the first thing he said was, I deplore his leak.
	So, you know, Mark Udall didn't have the courage to do what Edward Snowden did.
	He tried to get the country to know there was something going on that we should know, but didn't come forward and say, even though we have this protection, but I think Senator Gravel and Bruce Ackerman are absolutely right.
	There are all sorts of ways that if Ron Wyden and Mark Udall and others really believe, as they're saying, that there are serious abuses going on in the NSA, they could let us know and could do so with total protection.
	Unlike me, who's reporting it and being threatened with imprisonment, or Mr.
	Snowden, who's been charged for letting us know, they could actually exercise their constitutional prerogatives as a senator and tell us what they think that we ought to know, and they ought to do a lot more of that.
	You know, my focus is now going to be on Glenn Greenwald.
	This is...
	I mean, who died and made him the center of this universe?
	Well, you know, I'm with you on that one part, but it's because I don't think anybody else wants to do this.
	No, no, there's something else going on.
	There's a reason why he's the center of this.
	This is just too much.
	And that he is going on...
	It is too much, I agree.
	He's doing more for...
	I mean, how can The Guardian even put up with this?
	He's going on...
	He's building Glenn Greenwald, the brand, I guess.
	Oh, yeah.
	And it's just one thing after another.
	I mean, this guy, I don't know.
	It's worrisome.
	Would you be stunned if you turned out to be a CIA operative?
	Or something.
	Being fed the information to stop this NSA crap from going on, because maybe that other agency doesn't care much for it, because they're getting followed and listened to, too.
	They don't like it.
	MI6, I would say, more.
	Someone pointed out to me the other day that if you look at...
	MI6 is possible.
	Well, the Guardian is British intelligence.
	Come on.
	Someone pointed out to me that if you look at the ratio of Democrats to Republicans in the agencies, CIA is predominantly Republican, NSA predominantly Democrat.
	I thought that to be an interesting observation.
	Where'd you get that one?
	One of our producers mailed that to me.
	I should pull it up, but I was like, yeah.
	I didn't verify, I didn't do the research on all the names, but I'm like, that...
	There could be something to it, you know, and we know that we have always supposed that there's some kind of warring, you know, factions here between the agencies, but for it to actually be Republican-Democrat parties, interesting.
	I like that.
	And that's a new dimension.
	And we know that Greenwald is, you know, harping on the Democrats, so that would kind of be where you get your CIA slash MI6 thing from, so I don't know.
	I know, but he is out there way too much.
	Way too much.
	Way too much.
	Well, he's available for home consulting.
	All the time.
	He's just sitting by the phone.
	What's the time zone?
	Is Brazil a different time zone?
	It's like two or three hours ahead of us.
	It's not that near.
	Okay, it's not a big difference.
	And he always is sitting between those two mountains and the green screen in the background.
	You notice that?
	In this one, he was in front of a fireplace.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	Seriously.
	He needs to do just plain green screen so the viewer can put him in a different place.
	That would be fun.
	If we could just do our own little things.
	Like, where's Glenn today?
	I want him to be in the Arctic.
	There you go.
	Hi, everybody.
	I'm Glenn Greenwald.
	I've got more on the FISA court from the Arctic here where I'm hiding out.
	It's not just Snowden who needs to come home and face the music.
	Glenn Greenwald, come to America, man.
	Come on.
	We need you here.
	We need you in studio.
	He's definitely well prepared for these things.
	And he's got his guns out blazing.
	And it is aimed at the Democrats and Obama.
	Oh, yeah.
	We'll see what happens.
	But we do want to get a hold of that document.
	Well, you never know.
	We might get lucky.
	I have encryption on my email.
	All right, everybody.
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	And we will be going straight back to work as soon as we finish production of the show to get ready for another episode on Sunday.
	Indeed.
	Yes.
	And I, in the meantime, will keep my eyes open for the drills and testing going on here with the Department of Homeland Security in Austin.
	Don't be alarmed if you see more police presence.
	Coming in from the capital of the Drone Star State.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
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