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Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Sunday, July 21st, 2013.
Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 532.
This is no agenda.
Three stories above the massage parlor with the purple lights in Amsterdam.
Gitmo Nation lowlands in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I'm three stories above the driveway, I'm John C. Dvorak.
Hey, now!
It works, kind of, I think.
Seems to.
Oh, man, it's challenging.
Here we are in the lowlands, local time here, 6 p.m.
I am jet-lagged beyond belief.
Why?
Well, we arrived yesterday morning at 8 a.m.
You're supposed to sleep going east.
Yeah.
We slept for, I don't know, four hours on the plane, maybe?
That's more than enough.
No, it really wasn't enough.
Also, you booked KLM. I'm sorry, but that was Friday.
This was Sunday.
No, we left Friday, and we arrived Saturday morning.
Right.
Right.
So, you know, in a day to recover.
And we also, you know, you book KLM, or at least you think you're booking KLM, but then you actually, it turns out you're flying Delta.
Oh, Delta.
Who really don't give a crap about you.
Enough said.
I gotta say.
And, you know, and so, there's so much wrong.
They're supposed to have these friendly skies.
I guess they're all part of the same company.
That was United, the friendly skies of United.
Yeah, that's what it was.
Delta is the nasty skies.
Well, here's what's funny.
When you fly from Austin to Amsterdam through Atlanta with Delta, which is code shares with KLM, whatever, you're allowed to take two bags per person.
When you fly back from Amsterdam to Austin, you're only allowed to take one bag per person.
What?
Yeah.
Why?
Well, no one can tell me.
No one has an explanation why.
And not that it matters because we both have one bag, but I made this big stink with Mickey about it.
It's got to be exactly 50 pounds.
Oh yeah, in Europe they always weigh in the bag just 44 pounds.
Dude, they weighed it at Austin Airport is where they weighed it.
Really?
Yeah, and then it's like, well, you know, we can go over by two pounds and, you know, my suitcase, which was funny because I thought I weighed exactly 50 pounds.
My suitcase was like 56 and said, well, no, their scales are, this is a scandal.
Yes.
So we actually had to take four pounds out of my suitcase and put it into her suitcase.
I swear to God, while we're standing there at the counter.
It's insane.
One time I was doing this, I was on Lufthansa.
And I put the bag down, they weigh it.
It's like, I think it was like a 44 pound limit or something like that.
And he goes, you're over two pounds.
It's 46 pounds.
And I said, well, hold on a second.
I opened the bag.
I took the laptop out, which was a two-pound laptop, and held the laptop under my arm and put the bag back on.
He said, okay, you're good to go.
I pulled the bag off, put the laptop back in the bag.
Yeah.
Oh, perfect.
It's so stupid.
It's so stupid.
Anyway, good news.
Since we're on this topic, I just want to get this clip out of the way.
Which is apparently some, you know, it's NBC or ABC, one of this, I think it was ABC. They had this guy on who apparently had been stealing for five or six or seven or eight years.
He was a TSA guy.
And I guess when you check your luggage, they go through the luggage and they pull out the cameras.
This is at Jersey, of course.
Of course.
At Freedom International Airport.
Freedom of any ownership of your own property.
Alright, ready?
Yeah, and this is just a guy going on, and I'm just saying you're lucky you got there with your equipment.
The culture became a little stealing was okay at TSA? Yeah.
They didn't think it was okay, but they did it and said, I don't care.
They ain't paying me.
They treat me wrong.
They're doing this and they're doing that.
I just don't care.
Just didn't care.
But then when people started saying they could profit off of it, then it became massive.
Right.
Yeah.
You weren't the only one.
All right.
So, a couple things about the TSA. First of all, Blogger Bob, you know the TSA blogger?
Yeah.
So, he posts today...
Remember the story about the...
Where was it?
Some airport where they have the valet guys searching cars?
Right.
Yeah.
And so, Blogger Bob comes out and says, This is not standard procedure.
This is only local.
The TSA is not searching your car.
I mean...
Yes, the TSA was literally telling the valet to search cars, and blogger Bob is like, oh no, this is only a local thing, that's up to the airport.
They're so full of crap, and to prove it, Miss Mickey and I both did the arms not over the head deal, both of us, and got through.
I've got to tell you, when you listen to No Agenda, Your travel life becomes so nice and so lovely.
Yeah, for the 10 seconds that you saved.
Well, no, it's not 10 seconds, because opting out is a 20-minute ordeal.
Well, it depends on the airport.
So we both went through separate lines, and I had never done this.
I had never done the, hey, man, I really played it up, too.
I'm like, hey, man, I'm sorry, I can't lift my arms above my head.
And the guy looks at me and goes, really?
I'm like, yeah.
He says, okay, go through there.
And he motions to the magnetometer, which was off.
And I'm like, through there?
What?
Seriously.
And I said, through there?
And he says, yeah, through there.
And I had him repeat it.
And I walked through, pick up my bag.
I'm like, I don't sling it over my shoulder, obviously.
And that was it.
Good to go.
And the magnetometer was off, John.
It was off.
Really?
Yeah.
It's very careless.
Yeah.
So I have no idea about if Mickey's was on or not, but she went through a different line, because obviously we figured it might not be such a good idea to both...
Yeah, the two people.
Two tall blondes.
We're both involved in a very strange sex ritual, and neither one of us can actually move our arms or our neck.
Exactly.
It's a huge issue.
No, but it worked perfectly.
And then arriving, of course, at Schiphol Airport in Amsterdam, you flip on the old Wi-Fi device there, pick up our No Agenda free Wi-Fi, our hidden Wi-Fi network.
It's perfect.
It's just beautiful.
It makes you feel so powerful.
It does.
Yeah.
It does.
Yeah, you bullshit your way through the line and turn on some free Wi-Fi.
I'm the king!
Hell yeah!
I sure am.
Going in a private jet would have been a little more along those lines.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, that's not for us.
And here we are.
We've got...
Did you fly coach?
Are you kidding me?
You must have upgraded somehow.
You must have some upgrades.
No.
No.
I think we're plastic level on the KLM points.
No, I always pay the extra like 50 bucks or whatever to get comfort class, which really is meaningless, quite honestly.
It depends on the airplane.
In American, they have a lot of legroom in those planes, at least last time they were doing it.
It's definitely a couple inches.
You and Mickey are too tall for a regular seat.
Yeah, so we wound up getting this seat, which was right in...
Right behind business class, really, because they don't have first class anymore on KLM or Delta.
And so we're right next to the door, right next to the galley, and so we had nothing in front of us, which was okay.
Although sometimes you've got to be careful because you can get the flight attendants who are yapping the whole flight.
And they just sit there in the galley going...
Yeah, we didn't have gappy flight attendants.
Yeah, we didn't have that, luckily.
Yeah, everything's okay.
Everything's good.
So you had leg room then.
You were in good shape.
Yeah, it was okay.
It's all right.
Yeah, it's not quite flying with the private jet.
And then, of course, we're in an Airbnb apartment, which is...
Yeah, you've got a good connection, though.
Okay.
Knock on wood.
Connection's okay.
Connection's okay.
The guy gave me two.
He said, well, if this one craps out, then here's my sister who lives downstairs.
You can use her connection.
No, it's one of those deals.
You're lucky to be alive.
We literally are three floors up above the massage parlor.
It's kind of ghetto.
And everything would be okay, except the problem is we have like, it's 20, no, so it's, what is it?
It's 80 degrees, I think.
It's really beautiful, but these houses obviously don't have air conditioning.
So I'm sitting here just sweating away.
I've got the Ultimate Podcast device is running hot.
Pop!
I'll tell you.
I turned it on and immediately it didn't work because I've been using this jump wire and all the elements are loose.
We're lucky to be on the air at all, essentially.
Well, that's good to know.
Yeah.
But it's been fun.
It's been really interesting being here in Amsterdam, even for the day and a half that we've been walking around.
I learned a couple of things.
First of all, it's becoming more and more like the United Kingdom here.
Where everyone's just so depressed about not having a job and no one can sell their house and everything's just kind of like in irons.
I think we talked about this before.
It's just like a big waiting room.
Everyone's just like, I don't know what's going on.
So everyone's drunk.
And it's really good because it's summer and everyone's just drunk.
Like, hey, I'm just going to drink.
That's interesting.
While you're all depressed there, might as well play one more of my clips.
Okay.
I think this will cheer them up.
Play Boosting Housing.
Okay.
Housing prices.
All right.
Elizabeth, 33%.
That's what the median price of a home has gone up in the Nine Bay Area County.
June to June, just in the last year.
But you said it, Alameda County, a whopping 44% jump over one year.
For some people, they were in the water, or underwater.
Now they're way above, in fact, refinancing and happy about it.
Here's a good example.
This house, $280,000 a year ago, is in escrow right now at $400,000.
What?!
Multiple offers, and there's really no end in sight.
Wait a minute, this must be the land of Twitter and where all the rich a-holes hang out.
Exactly.
Wow.
And that house they showed, by the way, it looks like a crap hole, $100,000, like, you know, during the peak, $100,000 dump.
This isn't going to last, you know.
I mean, did you see Google's numbers?
It goes up, it goes down.
No, it's not going to end.
I'm seeing Google.
So Google had this horrible, they reported horrible numbers.
And their stock was down 5%, which I guess if you hold Google stock, that's like $1,000 off the price of its share or whatever.
But I think that we're seeing the end.
Everyone knows that online advertising on the Internet is a scam.
If you look at Google's numbers, the cost for them to acquire all these, what do they call it, audience acquisition costs, which to me means paying a bunch of guys.
Why is Google doing that?
Really?
It's like a bunch of guys in India.
You pay to sit in a room and click stuff.
It's fraud.
I'm telling you, the thing is a fraud.
It's a fraud.
It's coming down, John.
I would go short on Google.
I think that they're going to be in big trouble.
Yeah.
And meanwhile, of course, the investors...
But the thing about the acquisition with a bunch of Indians clicking on stuff, what is the...
It's a search engine.
Why do they have to even do that?
People are going to be searching.
They have to search.
They have to use Google.
I don't get it.
I think maybe they targeted too high or something, or they really expect to just keep growing.
I don't know what the deal is with them.
I do know the searches aren't as good as they used to be.
No, the searches aren't good.
I mean, they're noticeably crappy.
I've searched for something, and every single one of the hits was an advertisement for somebody.
Yeah.
Bogus review site.
I mean, it was unbelievable.
I could not find what I was looking for using Google.
I found it on Bing.
You know, I've had...
I don't like Bing.
And people who...
Like Eric DeShill, he's been studying these bots.
Yeah.
And he says, Bing sucks.
Right.
Well, I have this, you know, I have what we call the Freedom Controller, which is kind of my, you know, the Dave Jones, one of our producers, we put this together over the past, I don't know, like a year and a half, and it aggregates feeds, and it has a...
It has your own RSS feed, etc.
But what we've been doing is I subscribe to, I don't know, 700 feeds probably.
And if anyone ever adds something to the Noagenda News Network, if you add an RSS feed, that automatically is added to my feeds.
And I can unsubscribe, but usually it's interesting.
But ever since we put this thing in place for a year and a half now, the aggregation of every single one of those feeds has been stored in a database.
And these feeds are good quality feeds.
It also includes the BBC and some other mainstream stuff.
But also all of the kind of fringe.
So if I want to look for something...
You're like a one-man NSA! I'm telling you!
I use that search box that we have on this thing.
And I'm finding stuff...
Because of course you never can read all these feeds.
But it's all aggregated.
It's all stored.
And it's unbelievable how much better my own little system does than Google.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that would be disappointing.
Well, this is all Google does.
I mean, this is their job.
Yeah, but they're not doing the right job.
They're not doing the job for me.
Of course, they do return results fast.
I have to admit, that was always what Google was known for, by the way.
They were known for fast.
Remember that was like the main thing in the early days of Google?
You'd hit it?
Yeah, because they were right on one of the main pipes.
Yeah, and not only that, but they had no colors, no ads, no Google Plus crap loading everywhere, no JavaScript and all this stuff.
Right.
They've run so far off their mission.
That's all right, but all I'm saying is this too can come falling down.
Google, the big, beautiful giant who has hoodwinked their investors into thinking they're doing something great for the future with driverless cars and Google Glass.
It's a scam!
You can quote me on that.
That's just a generalized...
You say that constantly, but most of the stuff...
That's all I do.
So here's something new that I learned in Gitmo Lowlands.
Here's the concept.
I'd never heard of this before.
It's something called the pop-up store.
Have you ever heard of this concept, the pop-up store?
Yeah, Microsoft does these stores.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
This is what I thought.
When someone said, yeah, it's a pop-up store.
I'm like, what does that mean?
Like a store that just comes out of the blue or it's in a mall or something?
No, no, no.
Pop-up stores is the true hallmark of an economy and a country in crisis.
Check it out.
So you have all of these, all this real estate that's empty.
So you walk past these storefronts and the entire building is for sale or for rent and it has big signs for rent.
And then it has a little sign that will say pop-up store.
And you go in and it's pretty much empty except it has, you know, it'll have like temporary racks and Most of these are clothing stores, by the way.
It'll have real top name brand stuff that is marked down 50% to 90%.
You have your little portable changing booths.
And so the way it works is they've got somewhere a store went out of business, went bankrupt, so these companies buy up this inventory.
Then you have these stores that can't rent out their retail space, so they'll rent out for as long as they're empty to someone who has no job.
Who is now going to work and is going to be working desperately, who gets no payroll.
They get a percentage of whatever they can sell of basically this bankruptcy inventory.
And of course people who have no money can go and buy some brand name stuff for like 10 cents on the euro.
And this is everywhere.
The entire city is filled with pop-up stores.
And it's almost like people squatting in buildings with stolen merchandise.
Wow!
It's a phenomenon.
And they call them pop-up stores.
They don't even translate it to Dutch.
They just say it in English.
Oh, it's a pop-up store.
What the hell is this pop-up store?
And Mickey and I are just like, we can't believe it.
There's all kinds of brand name stuff for literally 90% off.
And I talked to the lady.
I said...
Are you going out of business?
No, no, no.
I'm here in business, but the minute they get a tenant, I have to move out the same day.
I have to pick up my stuff, put it in boxes, and move out.
But it's not even her stuff.
It's a bankruptcy company that buys up all this stuff.
So she's essentially in a squatter.
Yes.
Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
Yeah.
And a squatter by agreement.
And the agreement is that if somebody actually gets to the place, which may never happen...
Right.
Then you have to move out immediately.
Yeah.
You're out.
You're done.
Well, I'm wondering how the tax revenuers are dealing with this.
Well, obviously, there's no cash here, right?
We've talked about that.
So everything is on your PIN card.
Oh, by the way, someone actually said to me in the store...
Because Mickey and I were speaking English and I have a Dutch bank card with, you know, there's still a couple hundred euros on the account so I can pay for stuff here.
We, you know, whenever we're here, because of course you can't transfer it anymore from America.
You have to physically go to the bank and put it in.
But we discussed that we can't use credit cards everywhere, our American credit cards.
And I was, you know, I'm going through my cards to find the Dutch bank card and the girl behind the counter literally said, Credit cards not allowed here!
I'm like, wow.
Well, it's a cash-only business.
No, I know, but no, no, it's not cash.
There's no cash.
You can only pay with the PIN card, but even just pulling my...
Well, a PIN card, that's crazy.
Explain what those are to people.
Yeah, well, we're going to get those in America eventually, in 2015 or whatever.
It has the authentication on the card itself, so there's no authentication going to some back-end system.
Which, of course, puts the responsibility of fraud onto the merchant and ultimately onto the customer.
So if you lose your card, tough luck.
You know, then you're responsible and you have to cancel it.
If you don't, the bank isn't going to be responsible for anything.
So that's the only thing you can use, certainly in the Netherlands and in most of Europe these days.
And America is just really, really behind.
But to have someone just, you know, look at me and go, Credit card is not allowed here!
I'm like, excuse me.
Is she Russian?
Believe me, this is how Dutch people can sound when they speak English.
Huh.
That must have been fun.
What were you going to buy?
What do you call it?
My brain is scrambled.
So essentially your credit card is worthless.
Yes.
Would they pay cash?
Um, not everywhere.
We've talked about this last time when we were stuck here.
Yeah, I know.
We talked about it last year, but...
No, no.
In most places, they won't...
I still find it stunning that they won't take cash.
No, in...
Why would a society let itself, put itself in a position where it won't do business with cash?
Because they've been programmed here to believe that it's easy, it's handy.
And so now they want to only use these stupid PIN cards, which means it's essentially cash.
Yeah.
But it's not cash.
But it acts as if it's cash.
So why don't they just take the cash?
Yeah, well, you're asking questions I just can't answer.
Anyway, so it's weird.
And everyone's just...
I don't know.
I don't get a good vibe here.
And it's dirty.
For the first time I'm in Amsterdam, it's dirty.
There's trash everywhere.
There's crud on the streets.
I don't know what's going on.
Maybe it's the summer.
Everyone's just taking their time or whatever.
I don't know.
It doesn't feel all that great for some reason.
I'm not sure.
Anyway, we'll be off to France tomorrow.
Taking a high-speed rail?
No.
We're going to fly.
It's cheaper.
It's cheaper to fly.
That makes no sense.
The place is riveted.
It's crisscrossed with rail.
Why wouldn't it be cheaper to take a train?
It is.
It's cheaper to fly.
I don't know.
I looked at it.
It's just cheaper.
Huh.
Well, that doesn't make any sense the way we've been told.
Yeah.
Anyway, so yeah, so Europe is in the middle of a heat wave.
The UK is expecting hundreds of people to die.
Of course, it's all global warming, obviously.
In fact, I got a clip here from...
This is Harry Reid, Democrat douchebag.
I was just running through my normal sources to see C-SPAN stuff.
I don't know exactly what the occasion was, but Chuck Schumer was behind him with that Cheshire Cat grin while Harry Reid was saying this.
I am not going to beat around this, folks.
The West is being devastated by wildfires.
Millions of acres are burning.
Millions of acres have burned.
We had the largest fire that I can remember in Southern Nevada.
It's been burning for, I don't know, I think 16 days.
16 days.
It's about out now, but it took a long time.
We have a fire burning in the north.
Announced today, near Palm Springs, California, a fire.
Colorado, they're burning all over.
Why?
Because the climate has changed.
The winters are...
Woo!
You can just hear him going for it, you know?
He's like, let me just give you all these horrible fires.
Why?
Because the climate has changed, my friends.
We're all going to burn.
When I was a kid, they had these fires constantly.
Yeah, I know.
Still waiting for the hills outside of Petaluma to go up in flames.
Are you driving up there today?
Yeah.
Don't throw your cigarette out the window, then.
Well, it's a good thing I don't smoke, then.
And happy Captive Nations Week, John.
This is brand new from our president.
Oh, I'm glad he's come up with some new ideas.
Yeah, this one was a little interesting.
It came through this morning, and I have to apologize.
I can't...
I'm having a problem seeing...
I don't know.
If I put my glasses on, I have to sit too far back.
And without my glasses, I can't quite get close enough.
But let me read this to you.
As citizens of the oldest democracy on Earth, which, by the way, is that true?
The oldest democracy on earth, as far as I know, is Iceland.
Well, it says right here, proclamation by the President of the United States of America as citizens of the oldest democracy on earth...
Sorry, Iceland.
We believe that all people are created equal with certain inalienable rights, including life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Together, we have kept that most basic promise shining bright for more than two centuries, upholding civil rights and expanding their reach, advancing freedom's march, and widening the circle of opportunity for all.
Is he talking about what?
Well, that's the prelude.
The rest of the world, attention.
Be very afraid.
Our commitment to universal rights is also a foundation for American leadership abroad.
In the course of our nation's history, countries worldwide have pledged themselves to a universal declaration of human rights.
Corrupt dictatorships have given way to new democracies, focusing on the stale air of authoritarian rule with a fresh breath of freedom.
Essentially, what he's saying here is that Captive Nations Week is an opportunity to reaffirm America's role in advancing human rights worldwide.
This means we're up to no good.
And we're giving it a whole week.
And we're going to force this down somebody's throat.
It is a task that can begin here with the example we set and the understanding that we are stronger when all our people are granted opportunity no matter what they look like.
No matter what they look like?
Yes.
Well, he goes on, where they worship or who they love.
So if you're black, if you're white, if you're red, yellow, if you're Muslim, if you're Christian, if you're Jewish, if you're gay, if you're lesbian.
By the way, by curious, of course, it doesn't count.
But the whole thing, it's creepy.
It's creepy to say, you know, we're going to push this on everybody.
Which to me can only mean that there's something coming, probably Syria.
Because we have to deliver our freedom to these people.
Well, that douchebag McCain was grilling the little Irishman.
Oh, Dempsey, yeah.
Doesn't he look a little bit like a leprechaun?
Oh, he doesn't look like one.
He is one.
But this is the kind of thing, this guy, he's like a nightmare, this McCain, because he's got his little cadre of his, you know, that Lindsey Graham and Kelly Ayotte, the three of them, you know, picking up people.
So play it a little bit, let's see what's going on, because you can just see the Syria thing coming around the band.
In Washington today, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Army General Martin Dempsey, said he's laid out options for President Obama on using U.S. military power in Syria.
Republican Senator John McCain pressed Dempsey to say what he would do, but the general declined.
The decision on whether to use force is the decision of our elected officials.
You know, I just asked, the chairman just asked you if you would give your personal opinion to the committee if asked.
He said yes.
I'm asking for your opinion.
About the use of kinetic strikes.
That issue is under deliberation inside of our agencies of government.
And it would be inappropriate for me to try to influence the decision with me rendering an opinion in public about what kind of force we should use.
Afterward, McCain said Dempsey must share his recommendations with the committee, and he'll block Dempsey's nomination for a second term as chairman of the Joint Chiefs until he gets an answer.
Yeah, I saw this, and the whole thing was just bizarre.
It's like, what was...
McCain just wants to hear someone besides him say, yeah, let's go in, let's go in, let's go bomb it.
I mean, the guy, does he get off on this stuff, or what is wrong with him?
He seems to be working for somebody else.
Yeah, the guys who make bombs in fighter jets.
I can't see any other reason why he would be like this.
It's disturbing.
It really is.
Yeah, he hangs out in the Middle East.
He's always meeting with people over there.
And then he's the biggest warmonger that we have, period, in all of Congress.
He just wants to bomb the heck out of everybody.
He wants us to bomb Iran.
Iran.
Yeah.
And then there's this, and now he's badgering Dempsey, who, you know, put up with it, I guess.
And it was weird, because I was watching this, and I swear it looked like Dempsey's shoulder pads are the stars, that there was only three of them.
Well, you can't see them because the two of them are behind.
I saw three of them, but I saw the back yellow and the front yellow.
I saw the square that outlines the stars.
I can still only count three.
I don't know.
It's just beside the point.
I'm sure he's got them all.
I'm sure they're all there.
I'm quite sure.
We lost Helen Thomas.
Yeah.
And I thought it was kind of funny.
So Helen Thomas, for those of you who don't remember, she was always in the front.
Actually, when we started doing the show, which was around 2008...
Was it 2008, 2007?
Yeah, 2007, 2008.
She was still always in the front row at the White House briefings.
Now, of course, the Internet was really just still kind of coming up to speed, and we didn't have all the great...
I remember I was in the UK. I didn't even have a full wired connection for a year or whatever.
I was on some kind of 3G something or other.
So we couldn't get all the material we wanted at the time, but she's been, for ten presidents, she's kind of been the annoying, very no-agenda-like, I have to say, very annoying in the front row, always just asking whatever came to the top of mind, kind of the questions you want to ask.
And when the Obama administration came in, I remember...
I tried to find some stuff, but I couldn't find it easily because of the situation.
He talked about this.
She was very disappointed in the Obama administration.
Very disappointed, but he was also dismissive of her.
You remember he would be like, okay, Helen.
He's an old white woman.
Hell with her.
I tried to find it, and it's no longer on C-SPAN that I could find.
I remember there was one or two times when he was like, shut up, basically.
You remember that?
Yeah.
And then, of course, she essentially got railroaded out of Washington because of, you know, so she got hijacked outside by some guy, and that I do have, and he asked her a question about Palestine and about Israel and Palestine, and in 27 seconds...
Which I'm about to play for you.
Changed her life forever.
Got her kicked out of Washington, essentially off the entire press corps and out of the picture.
Kind of right around the time when the Obama administration was really annoyed with her questions.
And she would ask questions like, how come you haven't closed Gitmo yet?
And the bomb will be like...
Any comments on Israel?
We're asking everybody today, any comments on Israel?
Tell them to get the hell out of Palestine.
Ooh!
Any better comments?
Remember, these people are occupied.
And it's their land.
It's not German, it's not Poland.
So where should they go?
What should they do?
They go home.
Where's the home?
Poland.
Germany.
So do you think Jews go back to Poland and Germany?
And America and everywhere else.
Yeah, so apparently that was like the worst thing she could have ever said.
At the end of the interview.
It was the worst thing she could ever say and, you know, it was just horrible because she said go back to Poland and I guess that's because...
Go back to Poland.
Yeah.
But mommy, I've never even seen Poland.
And I guess related to this, someone sent me a link to a book, which one of our producers said, you've got to read this book.
It's brand new, and I just got it on the...
Luckily, it came out on Kindle, so I can read it while we're taking our week off.
It's called This Town...
And it's written...
Oh yeah, no, that's the book that...
We talked about this weeks ago.
Yeah, I don't remember this book.
This is the book that was snuck...
I'll hear this anecdote, I'll remind you.
The book was not supposed to be out and somebody slipped a bunch of copies...
Oh, right!
...at the airport.
Right, it landed at the airport, exactly.
So the author is Mark Liebowich and he is...
Was he a New York Times guy, I think?
I believe so.
So he's on Charlie Rose, and so one of our producers said, you've got to read this book.
Take a look at this interview of him on Charlie Rose.
And so I clipped this one-minute thing of him talking about the book, which definitely makes me very excited about reading this.
He kind of gets into exactly why he wrote the book.
Or as Charlie says, what's the origin of this?
Why did you write this?
Let's just talk.
I mean, this really is interesting from a thousand ways.
Eating lunch in this town, I think, had to do with the famous quote in California and Hollywood.
Exactly.
Never eat here.
Never eat lunch in this town again.
What's the origin of this?
The origin of this is, I think, first of all, just living in this town and working in this town for a while.
And I do think...
This town being Washington.
This town being Washington, D.C. And, I mean, after a while, I mean, people say you're cynical, you're a reporter.
But if you're a reporter in Washington, it's sort of hard not to be cynical, but it's also hard not to be co-opted in a way.
And I think...
If you were to sort of look at this almost psychoanalytically, I mean, maybe there's part of me that wanted to check myself before getting too deep into this world.
You have been partly co-opted yourself.
I think you can't help it.
I mean, I think it would be dishonest to have not said that.
Or live in a cave.
Or live in a cave, exactly.
But I do think that the inspiration for this actually was at Tim Russert's funeral in June of 2008, which is the opening scene of the book, and just watching it.
People came to the funeral to be seen as much as to pay respect.
Well, I think they were paying respect.
Okay, now this is actually how the book starts and opens up.
Listen to this, because this will blow you away.
Clearly there was a lot of sadness in the room, but I do think that there was a CNBC in quality to it.
And clearly, people were working it.
I mean, you see business cards flying and people congratulating.
At a funeral, yeah.
I thought it was an epic scene.
Now, you talk about so many people, you say about former President Clinton and the former Secretary of State, that they do funerals well.
They do.
I mean, the Clintons are experts at mourning and funeral, and I feel your pain, and that's one of his signature lines.
Now, again, that sounds cynical.
I think it comes in some ways from a place of genuineness, but clearly, if you talk to anyone who knows them, they are pros at sickness, at other people's misfortune, and they do empathy well.
Exactly.
I think that makes so much sense.
They're pros at sickness and other people's misery.
Yeah, well, remember that old clip that I used to play a lot, which was Clinton saying, I think the Secretary of State should be in a place where there's plenty of human misery.
No, I don't remember that.
No, I don't remember that.
Yeah, well, it's a clip which we used because it was just funny because that's where Hillary was floating around.
He says, I think the Secretary of State should be where there's a lot of human misery.
And I took it as just kind of, get her out of the house and make her suffer.
Right.
Rethinking it is probably exactly what he thinks.
He thinks, you know, because these guys are, they feed off of this.
And can you imagine that...
It's like a Star Trek story.
Right.
Essentially what he's saying is that, you know, Tim Russert, who of course, I think was killed, he's the guy that was, did, before Chip Gregory came on the scene.
He basically took his job, right?
Is it Chip?
Chip who took Tim Russert?
Yes.
Yeah.
And, you know, it was a fun guy to watch, and he had, you know, it was all roly-poly.
And then he goes, and then so at his funeral, he got the Clintons, and they're like doing business there.
These people are horrible.
Well, the book should be very good.
Everyone loves this book.
It won't mean anything, by the way.
No, no.
It won't change anything.
No, of course not.
Washington, D.C. is ruining the world.
Well, if you watch the entire interview, and there was no need really for Charlie Rose to have him on for the whole show, but the guy is essentially saying that everyone's corrupted, everyone's co-opted, including him, he kind of admits that, And he says, you know, the whole place is, you know, the whole idea is you get in, you want to get into some kind of position for five minutes at least, so you can get out and then you're set for the rest of your life.
For the rest of your life, you can go charge some corporation, you know, for your connections or whatever it is, and that's the whole business.
Yeah, no, and I think there's something to that.
Play the Napolitano clip.
Hold on a second.
I'm not quite as fast as I am at home, so...
Here we go.
Now, Napolitano will finish her duties with Homeland Security in the next month and a half, starting with UC in September.
She is going to make a base salary of $570,000 a year.
It's a university.
It's a college.
I'm glad you bring this up because there's a lot of talk about who is going to be replacing our dear Lucy, Janet Napolitano.
This is Cornel West with the name that is being floated the most.
No, I thought that they were wonderful words, a tribute to Sister Sabrina and Brother Tracy, who I thought were wonderful.
I mean, I lean on the same Jesus that they do, but it's going to be actions.
That's going to be the crucial thing.
When you talk about racial post-rowling and you acknowledge a racist criminal justice system that has nearly destroyed two generations of precious young black brothers, especially poor black brothers, we finally get a word.
Now, it's been five years, first black president Finally, he says a word about the new Jim Crow.
I welcome it.
Sign of progress.
Let's see what kind of action on the ground.
When you talk about Raymond Kelly as maybe the new head of Homeland Security, he is the poster child of racial profiling.
Many of us went to jail because of stopping free.
So actions can undermine...
We're going to have to see.
So this is the name that everyone's talking about.
Apparently the president even said, I'm not sure if Ray Kelly, who is the police commissioner of New York, who is the guy who has implemented this, what do they call it?
The stop and search?
Stop and strip.
I think it's, you're black, stop.
It's like, you're black, come over here.
Is that the policy?
Right.
I'm sorry.
You're black, Latino.
Come over here.
We've got to search you.
But I have received from one of our intelligence sources a different name, which I have not heard anywhere else.
Chris Inglis.
I think his full name is John Chris Inglis.
He is the number two guy at the NSA. In fact, he came in and bumped out the guy, what was his name, Black I think it was, who was the number two guy at the NSA. And he was over there in the UK running kind of the MI6 NSA or GCHQ or whatever they call it.
Yeah, that thing, that crazy thing.
He was their go-between guy.
They wanted the round building just like the Applehead.
Exactly.
So this Inglis apparently is really well connected.
And this is the guy, and I think we should put it in the book, because you have not heard this anywhere else, this name.
And he is supposedly the guy that's going to become the new Secretary of Homeland Security, which of course makes the NSA that much more powerful.
Because he is the number two guy.
It's Kaiser Alexander and then him.
Huh.
I'm looking at his wiki page.
Oh, he's got a presidential rank award for distinguished service.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
This guy is...
What does that mean?
Oh, he got another one.
He got one in 2004.
He got another presidential rank award for meritorious service in 2000.
So he's deputy director of...
He's basically giving you, you know...
Yeah.
Let's give each other an award.
Okay.
Yeah, but this guy, he's in the pocket.
Deputy Director of the NSA. I mean, just look at his wiki page.
There's nothing in there.
No, it's just a bunch of dates and what he did.
Yeah, this is how they operate.
It looks like bullet points from the agency.
You don't think that they're going to allow anything to be active?
Go ahead.
Try and put something in there.
Let's see how long it lasts.
Oh, yeah, that'd be out in two seconds.
NSA, like, ah, we got an alert.
We have to remove something quickly.
He's a Brigadier General.
Mm-hmm.
Starting in the Air National Guard, and then he moved into the Air Force.
I was assuming he was in Air Force Intelligence, and then he probably went up to...
So the question is...
He's got big eyes.
He looks like an alien.
He could be a gray.
You see his high forehead?
He's kind of like a...
And big eyeballs.
Huge.
But this is a presidential...
The president has to nominate someone for this, correct?
Correct.
Yeah, nobody would say no to this guy because they got everyone blackmailed.
Right.
So no one's going to vote.
This guy, even though I don't know if he's going to get it, but let's assume if he does get nominated, I'll bet you it goes through unanimously.
Oh, yeah.
Except Rand Paul.
And he'll say, do you think they were smuggling weapons from Bengals?
No, no, no, no.
He's going to ask.
I know he's going to ask him.
He says, do you think that what happened to Egypt was a coup?
Oh, that's right.
Would you call it a coup?
Would you call that a coup?
Randall, he asked everyone.
They just put a robot in there to ask the same thing over and over again.
Was Egypt a coup?
Why does he care anymore?
He still asks.
By the way, I received from producer Gary a talk about how awesome this show is.
And we don't toot our own horn that often.
As much as we should.
I'm going to toot your horn.
I will take you back to episode 175.
Now today is episode 532.
So we're going back to episode 175.
I think I must have been...
Was I still living in London at the time?
I have no idea.
No, no, no.
I was in San Francisco probably.
This is February 18, 2010.
Listen to the soothsayer John C. Jebediah Dvorak.
That was a great setup for nothing to start.
Hold on, there we go.
By the way, at the media offices, I've got two monitors.
By the way, our quality of our sound has improved since then.
One that's on an iMac.
What?
I hope, back in the other one that's a ViewSonic, and there's a high-end ViewSonic, both of them have cameras on them, and I have black tape.
Oh, over the cameras?
For the camera holes.
Really?
Yeah, I'm so paranoid.
In any environment like that, I will black tape the camera holes.
I do not trust these cameras, unlike many of these computers.
Who do you think is going to be looking at you?
Me?
No.
I don't know.
The NSA, perhaps.
I have no idea.
There you go!
You truly are the Oracle, my friend.
2010!
2010!
He said that!
Anyway, in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
Well, in the morning to you, Adam Curry.
In the morning, all ships at sea, boots on the ground, subs in the water, feet in the air, and all the dames and knights out there.
That's right.
And in the morning to all of our producers who are once again lined up, ready to go, depleting their $9.2 million value in the chat room, noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net.
Also to our crack team there, Void Zero, Sir Gene, Mr.
Oil, Sir Gitmo Slave.
Everybody helping out to make sure we stay on the air, which is highly appreciated.
And, of course, to our artists, I want to thank, whoops, who did our art on 531?
It was Thorin.
Thorin.
Yep.
Noagendaartgenerator.com.
We really appreciate the work that you guys do, and I think we have a couple of people who we can thank for helping us out and producing, executive producing and associate executive producing, episode 532.
Yes, and get your pen out.
Okay, I got my pen.
I'm ready to go.
Well, our first executive producer, which is $532, is Joseph Sukbeer, I'm guessing.
And he's in London.
Hi, Batman and Robin.
I like some job karma and an LG wise.
I recently lost my job, but he's giving us $532 in these trying economic times.
And then he also donated $500.
What?
Yes.
And he says, hey guys, it's me again.
I enjoy the show, but nothing is the best podcast.
You want to make a second donation for Sunday show to take me over the top for knighthood.
I don't know why he's not on the knight list.
Well, I saw someone come through on the night list.
Yeah, valued cardholder.
Oh, no.
Well, let's put Joseph on.
Oh, that's why you needed me to have my pen.
I get it.
Okay.
Joseph...
What's his last name here?
I'm a little...
S-U-K-H-B-I-R. How do you pronounce that, do you think?
I don't know.
Suc-beer?
Suc-beer.
He's going to end up sending us an email like this.
Sir Suc-beer.
Wow.
You can go to the pronunciation guide if you want.
No, that's okay.
This is cool.
Well, first let me hit him up with...
I'm going to do some jobs karma and an LGY to top it off.
This is very cool.
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
Yeah!
You've got karma.
I'll have you know I'm doing this all on a mini setup.
Yes, well you've been doing the mini setup for a while.
Well, I even have the mini controller now as well, so it's even more mini than usual.
A valued card holder in Sydney, Australia, 500.
Dear Bert Nerney, we had a national conversation about donating to no agenda.
Why?
Because spring is in the air, southern hemisphere, and the neighbors are putting up security cameras because of the giant sign that I see from my desk that reads, workshop live.
Wow.
May as well say, obey, consume, marry, and reproduce.
Or, because as I did, you caught yourself humming the Gitmo Nation national anthem.
In any case, I think the whole PRISM program is a good thing.
For starters, as a complete and utter moron, I feel safer.
But also seeing how the CIA won last year's Best Picture Oscar, I'm betting on at least a Golden Globe for the NSA for best adaptation of my email.
I'll be expecting a royalty check and a mention in the acceptance speech.
A nice credit, but doesn't hold a candle to producer of the best podcast in the universe, though.
This time around, the exchange rate is working against us, but please accept this contribution, which I think puts me over the top for knighthood.
Might I humbly request the title of Sir Valued Cardholder?
Absolutely.
Knight at large of the No Agenda Roundtable, a little karma for myself and the significant other.
Chances are I'm already kneeling, so go ahead and knight me.
Knight me in the mouth.
Much love.
That doesn't sound good.
I don't know about that.
All right, let me give him a little bit of karma.
Yeah, you will get a knight ring.
Yeah, and let me give him some obey karma.
You know, let me see, where is it here?
Why is that?
You will obey.
You've got karma.
There we go.
Nice.
Wow, thank you.
And a ring coming your way in a knighting later on in the show.
Baba Mustafa.
33333 from Clayton, North Carolina.
Just bubba.
Doe yo.
That's what he says.
Now, Anonymous from Aurora, Colorado came in with 33333.
Unfortunately, he does have a long note here as a government employee, and I can read part of it.
But he printed it, and I don't have my glasses.
Oh, wait a minute.
Two-point type?
Is that what he did?
It's a very small type, and it's light blue ink.
Okay.
Yay!
Great idea.
Way to get your note read.
So, yes, don't write like that.
So I'll read excerpts from it at a later date.
Also, and those would be our executive producers for show 532.
Sir Keith Chamberlain.
255.33 in Medford, Oregon.
Sir Keith of Medford, best shows ever.
Please give me three fun effects.
Adam's Choice.
Carry on the best podcast in the universe.
Thank you both.
Keep up the good work.
Don't get droned.
My choice?
Yeah.
Wow, that's cool.
Okay.
If you see something, see something, then play.
The best podcast in the universe.
Adam's Choice.
Adam's Choice.
AC. Adam Curry.
Adam's Choice.
Rien van Riethoven.
Oh, I know.
This is Rien van Riethoven.
Riethoven.
This guy is a Dutch guy, and he's actually a pretty well-known photographer of architecture.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
And he lives over here in Hercules up the street from me.
He's been there for seven years, I think.
He moved to...
Oh, I've got to go see you.
He's got to take me on one of his photo shoots.
I'll be the guy who opens the bags.
No, let me tell you.
So he does architecture photography, but he has some setup where he literally paints light all over the building.
You've got to Google his name.
You'll see his stuff.
It's pretty spectacular.
But what's funny is he's been calling people celebrities here in the Netherlands.
Yeah.
And he's saying, you have to donate to the NoGen show.
And so I'm getting all these weird emails.
People are like, Curry, what is this?
Reen is saying, I have to send you $500.
Why?
Reen.
He said, don't question it, man.
Just do it.
What's your problem?
Reen said, so you do it.
Well, that's fascinating.
That has my attention.
Yes.
Did you Google him?
No, not yet.
I'm still going to read.
I'll Google him later.
I'm telling you, this is a stone's throw from where I live.
Well, you should hook up with him.
Of course, I can't really throw that far.
Francis Lambert.
Yeah, no, I should.
I would love to go on a photo shoot and just maybe learn something about how to open the lens bigger.
Francis Lambert, 24343, from Zabak, Croatia, which I think is a happening place at the moment, this town.
It's kind of like what Detroit will be in five years, I think.
ITM, Adam and John, you guys have been outstanding lately.
While you're floating around, I may actually take a quick run to Detroit.
I was going to meet up with you.
In the south of France.
In the south of France, but I decided Detroit's a better choice.
We already had the cot ready for you.
We were sure you were going to come and join us, John.
But Detroit is second best, I agree.
You guys have been outstanding lately.
Here's some value for value.
Please give a round of karma for the 100 million Americans with or without food stamps.
Greetings from Croatia.
Let me hand that out.
I do need to say something.
You've got karma.
Um...
It's funny, I got a lot of people saying, please show me this 101 million number.
And I was right, but not entirely correct, so I do apologize.
The number of people, and this is according to the document which is in the show notes, which I also misfiled, so I'll put it in the show notes for today's show again, so you can see it's the government PDF, and it's under clips and stuff.
47 million Americans are on the SNAP program.
That's the supplemental food stamps, essentially.
The other little over 50 million are on any number of other governmental food programs.
So it's 101 million in total.
It is only 47 million on SNAP, but when you look at all the programs, and it's in this one document, it's 101 million Americans on some kind of government food program.
Okay.
I didn't like the number either.
Yeah, but 47 is bad by self, but 101 is the total.
But it's the total.
It's all programs.
Okay.
All right.
Well, I just need to clarify because a lot of people are like...
You dug yourself out of the hole.
Curry, you suck, man.
It's not true.
I'm unsubscribing.
I'm unsubs...
Yeah.
Well, we got those guys.
They're just waiting.
They're laying in wait.
Ah, they made a mistake.
It's not 552.
It's 551.2.
It's 1.2.
They're dumb.
My favorite is not even saying I'm unsubscribed.
It's just unsubscribed.
That's my favorite.
Blocked.
Blocked.
That's what you do.
You're like, blocked.
Adam Smith.
Good old Adam Smith.
Loaded of a dough up in Calgary, Alberta, where all the money is in Canada.
235.
Hey, Jan, still enjoying the show?
Tremendous.
Especially 528 with Adam's expert plane crash analysis.
Keep up the great work, and can I please get a 999 and good luck, Karma, for the Little League Baseball team I coach.
Few games coming up down the stretch.
Can always use the extra help.
Cheers.
Absolutely.
We'll do a 999 or in a call.
999.
There you go.
You've got karma.
Always happy to oblige.
Roberto Bertan.
Bertran.
Sorry, Roberto.
In 23333, Royal Oak, Michigan.
And by the way, if anybody is in the Michigan, Detroit area, they can show me around.
Send me an email.
John at Dvorak.org.
I want to get to the worst parts of town.
I need some escorts, obviously.
Yeah.
If you know what I mean when we say escort, wink, nudge, nudge.
Yeah, sure.
Hello, Armando and Jose.
I recently got my security deposit from my old apartment in the mail.
You guys offer me so much brain security that it only makes perfect sense to donate to the best podcasts in the universe.
I've been a long-time boner and always felt bad for not donating.
Please deduce me and give my new fiancée Libby and I a shot of karma.
We are celebrating her birthday this Saturday.
So we have her on the list, so your appreciation is appreciated.
Can you please call out my friend Carlos from Miami, who has never donated a douchebag?
Douchebag!
Keep up the excellent work.
Love the show.
You've been de-douched.
You've got karma.
And that concludes our generous donations for show 532.
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Click on the donate buttons there.
But we want to remind people, we can talk about it now, talk about it later.
We have two.
Let's talk about it now.
Let's talk about it now.
That's good.
And again, I want to remind people that we, you know, would like to keep the income stream, so don't just, oh, they're going to do a clip show, so screw them.
Well, hold on a second.
We're not just doing a clip show.
We've actually, we're producing, we've got Ramsey, Ramsey Cain on noagendacd.com producer.
Well, I made the mistake of calling Randy Cain in the newsletter.
You know, that was not so good.
Well, you already finished it.
Let me give people a little look into the no agenda behind the scenes.
So John and I never talk, but once or twice a week when John's going to send out the newsletter, he'll send me the draft and he says, you know, take a look at it because, you know, it's like, usually there's no change, but I find little typos or little things or something or I might have a comment.
So, I'm jet-lagged, so at four in the morning, my eyes open up, and I'm like, oh, I'm awake, and so I start looking at email, and there's John, who at 1.30 a.m.
my time sends a note saying, stay awake!
I'm going to send you the newsletter!
Don't go to sleep!
You have to check it!
And I'm like, fuck, you're a douche!
And then, of course, the one time I don't look at it, a mistake like that slips in.
It's like Kennedy getting nuttier.
He's a good guy.
He's a freak.
But anyway, so Ramsey Cain is going to...
Oh, he's already done it, actually.
He's finished it.
He's not going to be able to do any more editing on it today because he says his wife will divorce him.
Apparently, he puts in a lot of time for us.
And so he's...
Instead of one of us doing it, it's like a third-party...
Show of important clips.
That's right.
Independent.
Independent clips.
Independent guy.
Yep.
And so it's going to be a very interesting show, and it's going to be, I guess, about an hour and a half, up to two hours.
Now, is that the one we're doing on Thursday?
That's the Thursday show.
Okay, that's the Thursday show.
Good.
And then on Sunday.
Next Sunday, we've got another one that we're producing.
I'll be producing these during the week.
So editing them really is what I'm doing, and then giving them to somebody to post.
And this will be a couple of interviews.
I did an interview with John Dixon.
And John Dixon is a former Air Force intelligence guy who runs a software company in San Antonio called the Denim Group.
And they do computer security stuff.
And we talk about the NSA. And it's actually a very entertaining conversation.
And then Adam follows that.
Or actually, that will follow Adam's conversation, which is the first one.
I actually excerpted from one of his, when he was doing all these interviews, and this is a really good one, of a guy, what's his name?
Daniel Suarez.
Suarez, right, the book writer.
And that's an entertaining thing, and then that'll be another hour and a half show, more or less.
It'll probably, I think it's a little longer.
So Daniel Suarez, for those of you who don't know, is the guy who wrote Demon?
Followed by Freedom TM, and of course he wrote The Kill Decision, which is the book about drones, which came out about a year ago, more than a year ago now.
He pretty much nailed everything that is taking place right now, and he also was a former military contractor, and I kind of noodle him a little bit about that.
So this will be a good show on Sunday.
Now this is the question I want to ask you now, I might as well.
If anyone wants to be an executive producer for either of these two shows, we will run the numbers as usual on the same as usual night.
Right.
So you will be credited as an executive producer on these shows respectively.
Right.
Right, so we put those in the show notes, is that what you're saying?
Yeah.
Okay, so we're not actually on vacation, we're actually...
You go get your email anyway.
We're uploading, we're doing RSS feeds, and yeah.
Yeah, all that's missing is this three hours of chit-chat.
That's the only thing we're not doing, okay.
Yeah, we might as well do it, but too late now, we're going to do these shows.
Yeah, exactly.
So he's going to work.
Hey, we're on vacation!
Vacation means you've got three hours cut loose.
You don't have to get so many clips and the rest.
So, I mean, there's some vacation aspect to it.
I mean, I was planning on being really, really drunk for the whole week, but I guess that's just not going to happen.
Oh, go for it!
Have you ever messed up an RSS feed for a podcast?
Do you know that it takes weeks for all of that crap to flesh itself out?
I've done this where you mislabel somehow the enclosure.
It takes months.
Oh, my God.
And people are emailing and tweeting for weeks.
Yeah.
It doesn't work.
It's broken.
Your file is no good.
Dead link.
Dead link.
All right, of course, you can executive produce or go out and propagate a formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Order. Order.
Shut up, Slade.
Shut up, Slade.
I think that's going to be a t-shirt.
Dead link!
Dead link!
Stupid idiot!
Not working on Quantcast or whatever it's called.
Hey, so I got a hold of the guys who are doing the BitTorrent folks.
Oh, really?
The BitTorrent sync thing?
The Bram?
Bram Cohen?
And so they're going to...
Hold on.
I've been signed up for the beta for weeks.
I want to try the streaming stuff, but I get no love from them.
Oh, okay.
Well, I'll send them a note saying that they send you a thing, a link, when you get back.
Yeah, okay.
So they think it's great that we've been promoting it, and they'll probably put us as a highlight on their website, on their blog.
Oh, really?
Oh, cool.
Cool.
Yeah, that'd be cool.
I've got to tell you, we have...
But I think it's the only...
Long term, I think I'm totally agreeing with you.
I think this is the only thing, the only safe distribution mechanism, at least for stuff like what we do.
Well, what's nice about it, and for those of you who haven't heard, if you go to the show notes, we've been doing it for the past couple months.
If you go to 532.nashownotes.com, you'll see it right there.
At the bottom of the main page, you'll see a link that says, New!
Get the show via BitTorrent Sync.
And I think we now have 35 computers seeding the show full-time.
We have two folders.
One is the most recent show.
And then we have Eric the Shill, actually, because he's maintained an archive since day one, which I think now is 40 gigabytes.
Some obscene number.
And you can sign up to that folder and you'll essentially be helping us maintain history by having every single No Agenda episode.
Because a lot of people want that.
They want all the back catalog.
And so you can subscribe to either one of those.
And I really see this as the future of distribution.
I'm so agreeing with you.
In fact, when you sign up, when you...
If you get the BitTorrent sync and you subscribe to our folder, you get the show before it's released anywhere else.
So before I even put it in the RSS feed, before the show notes are even up, you can get the show.
A lot of people seem to like that.
Yeah, everybody's in a hurry.
Yes.
In case no one had done this yet in America, I'm sure someone has somewhere.
Of course, here in the Gitmo lowlands, people don't really care too much about what's going on in America.
As an example, the Zimmerman trial, no one cares.
No one knows.
No one's talking about it.
It's not on anyone's mind whatsoever.
NSA snooping?
Yeah, no, now that it came out that the Netherlands actually has more phone taps than any country in the world, which they're also not concerned about here, by the way, because, of course, no one has anything to hide.
But people are like, wow, how does an entire city go bankrupt?
And, of course, I'm talking about Detroit, and you can't talk about the bankruptcy of Detroit without going back to 2012 and President Obama saying this.
Just a few years ago, the auto industry wasn't just struggling.
It was flatlining.
GM and Chrysler were on the verge of collapse.
Suppliers and distributors were at risk of going under.
More than a million jobs across the country were on the line.
And not just auto jobs, but the jobs of teachers, small business owners, and everyone in communities that depend on this great American industry.
But we refused to throw in the towel and do nothing.
We refused to let Detroit go bankrupt.
I bet on American workers and American ingenuity.
What?
It's so funny.
All right, I'm going to give it.
Really?
You're a nice guy and you're on vacation.
You're getting Clip of the Day.
That's a beauty.
Really?
You're telling me?
Yeah, you did some serious work.
You went into the archives and found that clip.
Oh, wow.
I wasn't even expecting it.
I'm completely befuddled here.
Well, thank you so much, John.
It's been quite a number of shows since we've had one.
I'll take it.
Absolutely.
Clip of the Day Yeah, we won't let them go bankrupt, and there they are.
I guarantee no other show that does news analysis will have that clip available to them to play, to rub it into space.
You can take that to the bank.
That's right.
No one has that.
In fact, I sit on stuff like this for years, just waiting.
Like, oh yeah, you'll regret them words one day.
Yeah.
What did he say?
He said something recently.
He said something else.
I don't know.
There's just so much stuff.
Here's what really got me.
Three times that I counted, he came out in front of the press corps and bitched and moaned about Trayvon Martin.
But the classic line, talking about nothing nobody cares about in Europe, is this one where essentially he says that Trayvon Martin, that Zimmerman killed a future president.
Yeah, no, I saw this.
It's like free crime.
It's an assassin.
It's crazy.
But I did want to just talk a little bit about context.
And how people have responded to it and how people are feeling.
You know, when Trayvon Martin was first shot, I said that this could have been my son.
Another way of saying that is Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago.
Before it's a crab, it's pre-crab.
Yeah, I also thought that was really, really weird.
And I heard that too.
I'm like, wow, I mean, you're basically saying that you could have been killed?
I mean, that makes no sense whatsoever.
No, it makes no sense whatsoever.
And why is he pandering to local politics?
I mean, the whole thing is crazy.
I mean, this is the problem with this president.
He can't rise above these sort of little items like the professor at Harvard that was arrested.
You know, he keeps getting involved in these local issues that someone brings to his attention.
Hey, there's a lot of black kids in Oakland that are shot like every other day in Richmond, California.
Yeah, you see...
I don't see him standing up for them.
I will say that there is a feeling worldwide probably, and this has worked, is that America is just one big Racial hate.
It's like white people hate black people.
Black people live in ghettos.
No white people live in ghettos.
No brown people live in ghettos.
No red people live in ghettos.
And the black man is suppressed and the white man rules him and hates him.
That has pretty much worked.
That, I will say, is the impression that people have.
Oh, by the way, in the South, a bunch of rednecks who hate gays.
And we don't want women to have abortions.
I have to say, good work.
You've succeeded in propagating that message about America.
Totally.
Yeah.
Thanks.
It's really sad.
And I sit there and I'm like, because people still think here...
Obama's not helping matters with this bull crap.
It could have been me!
No.
And that is so dumb.
Really, it's sad.
And there are a couple of black guys out there.
I saw one.
I didn't clip it because it was just...
I don't even want to honor the stupid conversation by bringing too much of it up on this show because you get enough of that bull crap on mainstream media all the time.
There's some black radio host.
What's his name?
The guy's really good.
He got on Piers Morgan and he just ripped Morgan to shreds.
It's just, you know, it's like this is, the whole thing is bull crap.
And it really is.
And it's annoying and it's really bad for America.
And it's just, it's bad.
It's bad for white people, black people, all people.
The whole thing is lame.
It's incumbent upon him to try to put down the whole culture because he's so above it all.
Yeah.
That guy.
But also for the president to say, you know, that could have been me.
And, you know, when I walked in an elevator, women would clutch their purse and car doors would lock.
The guy lived in Hawaii in a gated community.
Are you kidding me?
How dare he?
How dare he?
Yeah, then he was at Harvard.
I mean, really, how dare you?
I went to Salem College in West Virginia, 50% black.
My roommate, Tyree Hamilton, was black.
And it didn't make any difference at all.
But I'll tell you, there was no Obama black, okay?
There really wasn't.
And they accepted me.
They were like, whatever.
There was no difference.
There was no black or white.
And this is 19...
No, this is fomenting.
These people, and I would put Sharpton at the top of this list, by the way.
Yes, thank you.
Fomenting hate.
Thank you.
Haters just making hate.
And by the way, for their own benefit and profit.
They're horrible people.
Well, there's good news coming out of Texas.
Or actually, no, it was good news that then became bad news.
What was that?
What did I miss?
I turned around, I left, and what happened?
Oh yeah, no, Texas has fallen apart.
Play the topless news.
Oh, jeez.
See, I knew I couldn't leave.
What is this?
Welcome back, everybody.
There's always great news coming out of the great state of Texas.
Where it's all bigger.
It's all bigger.
So apparently there's a little bar down there in Texas, in Louisville, Texas to be exact, called Redneck Heaven Bar.
Redneck Heaven Bar.
Me off!
And they at this little bar would have something they called ABC Days.
Anything but clothes.
So they had on some little bikini bottoms, but the tops were not covered as you see there.
It was all body paint.
Okay, now this again was not against the laws.
Perfectly fine according to city ordinance there in Louisville, Texas.
However, a resident complained and now they're changing the law saying, you know what?
If you work at a restaurant, you can no longer have body paint.
You must have on actual clothes.
Clothing at this bar.
So now it can no longer be truly topless, even with body paint, in Louisville, Texas.
It doesn't look like they're wearing body paint.
It doesn't look like they're naked at all.
They must have pasties on.
And then paint on top of the pasties.
Who is this idiot?
Who is this woman?
Who is this idiot woman?
I have no idea.
It's not considered clothing, as long as it's covered.
I've asked the producers to fly me down so I can investigate and get back to you.
Oh, we talk about titties!
Right, we have idiots doing the news, but I actually think there's an interesting aspect to this story.
So they have something that's just a tradition in this bar and nobody gives a crap because it's fine with the city.
And one lone person?
What is wrong with people that one complainer?
One complainer.
Yeah.
It's like ridiculous.
One complainer.
I mean, why are you going into the place if you don't, you know...
It's like, oh, this porn is terrible.
Let me look at it again.
Oh, yes, it's as terrible as I thought when I saw it the first time.
It just doesn't make any sense to me.
Anyway, that's Texas news.
Thank you.
Thank you.
That's not really the Texas that I'm from.
No.
Okay, so something very interesting happened just as we were wrapping up Thursday's show.
And to remind you, I'll give you a little taster.
Good morning to you, Carol.
You know that police sergeant apparently felt somewhat conflicted about releasing the photos, but he also felt very strongly the Rolling Stone cover was an insult and hurtful to survivors, so this was his way of helping.
These new photos showing a much different picture of Johar Zarnaev, captured by police, a bloody face, his hands up, the laser from a sniper rifle trained on his forehead.
Okay, let's stop right there.
John, I'm sure by now you've seen these pictures that were published through Boston Magazine.
There's a couple of things that are bothering me.
Okay.
One is, where's the neck wound?
Oh, the neck wound.
Where's the neck wound?
Yeah, there should be a neck wound.
There should be a neck wound.
And two, whoever put these pictures together, and by the way, stunning photography, these are not some snapshots.
This is really well done.
These are very good pictures.
Can anyone make this dot on the guy's forehead more Hollywood?
I mean, please.
Have you ever used a laser sight at that range?
Because you can see where the gun is.
This dot is the wrong size.
I'm sorry.
No, from that distance, it's almost impossible to capture on a camera.
There's something so wrong with this picture.
And, of course, I think this has multiple, multiple layers.
So this cop, or the police photographer, or whatever his exact job is, he has been suspended from the force because he didn't have permission to put this out.
Now, of course, it makes a lot of sense that he wouldn't have permission because it doesn't fit with the bullcrap story we've been sold that he was shot in the neck, and where did this wound come from?
And he just climbed out of the boat himself.
Which, of course, doesn't fit with him confessing on the inside of the boat that he wrote with some Sharpie magic marker, where he actually said he was not guilty to 30 counts when he was in court.
And, of course, we're still waiting for the videotape that shows the brothers putting the backpacks into the garbage cans.
They're trying to make that go away.
That's exactly what is happening here.
Do you have something on this?
No, I got nothing.
Okay, let's just listen to the rest of this report.
A vastly different image from the one depicted in the controversial Rolling Stone cover.
By the way, do you get the idea, John, that this was a...
Kind of a left-right, you know, ping-pong job that it was like, okay, we'll get people all riled up about, which is ridiculous, by the way.
We've had tons of mass murderers and crazy people on the cover of Rolling Stone magazine and all kinds of publications.
Everyone's outraged.
We have all of them.
Oh, we're not going to sell this.
No, it's a publicity stunt.
No, I bought that from the beginning.
It's a publicity stunt.
But then you come out with these pictures to offset that with this messaging.
Massachusetts State Police Sergeants.
You know what I mean?
Sean Murphy says...
Yeah, yeah, no, I think you're right.
...was so angry with Rolling Stone's cover, he released these new photographs to Boston Magazine.
And listen to this piece.
Listen to the man on the street pieces they put in here.
The police tactical photographer told the magazine, quote, What Rolling Stone did was wrong.
The guy is evil.
This is the real Boston bomber, not someone fluffed and buffed for the cover of Rolling Stone.
Fluffed and buffed!
Hey, I want to say, wait a minute.
Was this guy been on trial and found guilty?
Oh no, this is another part of it.
He did it.
He is guilty.
Even though he said not guilty in court to all 30 counts.
There's no proof.
We're still missing the video.
No, this is in.
They have to cover up whatever went on.
I think that's the real face of terror.
That's right, the real face of terror!
I agree with him 100%.
Boston Magazine's editor told CNN, Murphy thought the cover sent the wrong message.
I think he was genuinely worried about the impact on the families of the victims, and I think he was also worried that certain impressionable people might be lured to replicate the act by the kind of glamorous looking photo that is on the Rolling Stone cover.
Tsarnaev's first public appearance since his arrest was in court last week.
He pleaded not guilty to 30 federal charges, including four killings.
While images like these are already having an impact, some say the focus is all wrong.
I think they should focus all the attention on the brave people and the people who lost their lives, not the monster who caused it all.
Isn't this great?
Don't you love this man on the street stuff they just throw in there and just like just grab someone, just put that in there?
Well, Carol, apparently Murphy did not want Rolling Stone to have the last say, so he decided to release the police photos himself.
A police spokesman said in a statement the release of the photos was not authorized by the Massachusetts State Police.
Murphy was suspended for a day and faces a hearing next week to determine his status.
Spended for a day!
A whole day!
It's full pay, by the way, it's full pay.
For doing his job right.
Now, this is disturbing.
Yeah, it's disturbing is what it is.
It's disturbing.
It's a kangaroo court.
It's like they're trying to mob.
Everybody's in on this.
It's this mob thing.
It's a mob.
It's a mob.
It's a lynch mob.
The media's in on it.
I got a kick out of an NBC presentation.
I've only got a very small clip.
It's called Snide Style.
This is NBC making, I believe, tell me I'm wrong, I maybe have just over-interpreted what I thought was a snide style of talking about the Rolling Stone.
It was just like, it just seemed like they were trying to think, these guys, it was just weird.
Play it and tell me what you think.
In a statement, Rolling Stone editors said their hearts go out to the victims.
They said the cover story falls within the traditions of journalism and the magazine's commitment to serious and thoughtful coverage.
Hmm.
By overdoing that, it just seemed like, eh, journalism and thoughtful coverage, it just seemed, just the way he said it, I thought it was snide.
Am I wrong?
Yeah, I want to listen to it again.
Let me just check it out.
Hold on.
In a statement, Rolling Stone editors said their hearts go out to the victims.
They said the cover story falls within the traditions of journalism and the magazine's commitment to serious and thoughtful coverage.
Ha ha!
Yeah, it's snide.
Yeah, it's snide.
That was snide.
It's typical, though.
Before we got on the plane from Austin to Atlanta, we went to the newsstand and I looked at the magazines.
John, there's not a single one I actually wanted to buy.
Every single magazine had bull crap on it.
I know.
It's like, why should I just read this bullcrap?
Time Magazine, even The Economist looked like bullcrap.
Just everything.
And then forget the technology magazines.
Ugh!
Yeah, the only time I sometimes am attracted is to one of the car magazines, if they have some really hot car that I've never seen before on the cover.
I go, oh, that's interesting, and then I still don't buy them.
I get closest to the car magazines, though, in terms of being suckered into buying them.
Right.
Yeah, well, that's the business.
I mean, in Europe, in fact, because most, unlike the United States, in England in particular, in the United States, most of the magazine distribution is through subscriptions.
Right.
In England in particular, and I think in most of Europe, most of the magazine circulation is through the newsstand.
They don't have as many people that actually get the magazine in the mail as we do here.
Right.
And it has a lot to do with the post office and a lot of other things.
So in England in particular, that's the newsstands I like to study because they have the most aggressive covers because their whole business is to compete with each other and get you to buy that magazine.
Yeah.
Much more so than American magazine.
So when you're passing through a newsstand in Europe, you should – It's funny you mention that.
I take pictures.
I was reading an article, I guess, was it this morning, that there's now a push to change the face of the newsstands in the UK because of the...
You know, you have most newspapers, or a lot of the newspapers there have still have the Page 3 Girls.
So you've got some naked chick or semi-naked chick on Page 3.
And they also have the Lad Mags, as they call them.
And that's kind of attracting...
Laddie Boys.
Yeah.
That's attracting buyers.
No, Lad Mags is what they call them.
Lad Mags.
Well, in the business they call them Laddie Boys.
Laddie Boys?
Laddie Boys Mags?
That sounds kind of gay.
The chief promoter at the top of this group is Maxim.
Right, which is very successful, right, Maxim?
Isn't that a worldwide super, super success?
Yeah.
They've licensed that everywhere?
It's a very humorous product.
Why is it that that works, but, you know, that women don't buy naked dudes and stuff?
Why is that?
This reminds me of somebody who said on a radio show once, I'll never forget, they said, you know, it's funny that women...
Women will wear jeans and they'll wear shorts, but it's weird because men don't wear dresses.
I have a dress.
I don't understand why they don't wear a dress.
Well, that's another story.
I have a dress.
There's guys in Austin who wear dresses.
Yes.
A lot of guys wear dresses these days.
It's kind of more like a Scottish dress, but it's a dress nonetheless.
Yes.
I don't have one, but if I had the legs for it, I would wear it.
You just said you have a dress.
Yeah, no, but I don't have one that I wear outside because I don't have the legs for it.
But you just wear it around the house.
Yeah, I wear a dress at home.
Oh, my God.
Okay.
I'll send you a picture.
I don't want to see a picture of you in a dress.
Do you wear makeup at home, too?
Is that the deal?
What do you mean at home?
Yeah, we both have the same dress.
Mickey and I have like a night dress that we wear around the house.
Why am I even telling you this?
I'm wondering myself.
This should not be known.
It's too late now.
Oh boy.
All right.
Let me...
Here, I'll give you something.
Let me see.
I got some funny clips that I pulled up here.
Hold on a second.
This was...
Oh, yeah.
This is a commercial.
I tweeted at some point, I tweeted something about sysadmins that sysadmins are the only guys you can really trust in an organization because they are truly the only people, when you're typing in a password, they physically look away.
You've noticed this with good sysadmins, right?
Yeah, I've noticed that also every once in a while, when I'm doing my debit card and I'm punching the number and it doesn't have the protective shield, before I hit the last number, I always look up to see what the other person's doing.
Yeah.
And one person's staring at it.
And I looked at her and she looks away.
She looks...
Okay, so sysadmins are the guys that really don't give a crap about what you're doing.
They just want to make sure everything's running.
And you can trust them.
You can trust them with pretty much anything.
And that's why I think sysadmins truly, really do run the world.
And when push comes to shove, I'm glad they're our friends.
Because they're going to make our show stay on the air somehow.
And then someone tweeted and said, Yeah, well, please don't blame us for installing Spectre 360.
Okay.
I'm like, Spectre 360, have you heard of this?
I'm going to find out now.
Your company keeps a lot of valuable data.
Customer lists, personnel files, financial reports, confidential documents, and there are a lot of employees with access to that data.
So, how can you be sure that they're...
Is this a white guy or a white guy?
No, I don't know what it is.
Listen to this.
It's a commercial, though.
It's an animated commercial.
I'm sorry to interrupt.
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I just love the whole, the revolutionary employee monitoring software.
Oh, what does it do?
Spectre 360 is like an augmented security camera that records employee activity, proactively searching across company computers, servers, and mobile devices, so you can zero right in and replay the suspicious behavior.
So if an employee copies a sensitive file onto a USB drive, uploads a client list to the cloud, or visits inappropriate websites, you'll be notified in no time with a comprehensive report detailing exactly what happened.
There are no hours spent looking through backups or data logs.
Spectre360 puts you in front of the problem, whether it's fraud, productivity, even harassment, so you can deal with it immediately, minimizing any impact and improving your organization's efficiency.
So stop looking for that needle in a haystack.
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Shut up, Slay!
I love the productivity part they slipped in there.
Yeah.
Well, you know, this is nothing new, this type of software.
I remember first hearing about it in probably the late 80s when networks were becoming very popular in organizations.
And there was a guy who was doing a radio show and this guy came on discussing this and how, you know, you can keep people off of the internet, you know, doing crazy things.
Actually, that was keep them off the internet altogether.
Remember that?
We had companies where you weren't allowed on the internet.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's that too.
This is bad.
So what apparently these guys are doing is a keylogger, which is like disgusting.
I think it's more than that.
I think it's, the way I, when I look at the commercial, it's not, it's a screen recorder.
It's not just a keylogger.
It's recording everything that is going on.
It's like a screen capture.
Yeah, I'm sure taking a movie, like, you know, I think Lotus used to have a movie maker that you could buy and essentially would turn the screen into a camera and everything that went on was recorded step by step.
And then you can go back and look at it.
Now, this seems like...
The way to defeat this, of course, is to just do so much stuff and so many tabs and so fast and so many different ways that you'd overload the thing.
I don't see this thing actually performing as well as it...
I don't know.
I think there's no reason for this sort of thing in a company.
Well, apparently it's very successful.
Well, that's why I think people just do more stuff on their phones.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, the phone, I mean, you watch the kids nowadays.
Hey, kids!
They've got their iPhones and they're surfing the web and they're doing everything you'd normally be doing on a desktop and they'll...
Instead of going on the desktop or even a laptop, they'll just do it on the phone.
And you could do that at work.
In fact, most workplaces nowadays have people standing outside talking on their own personal cell phones to their buddies and wasting company time and doing all the rest of that.
And they might as well be surfing the web and looking at porn on the phone.
So this is not going to be effective for anything that's important.
You want to harass somebody?
Go do it on your phone.
By the way, I still have not used the phone.
I still have not used my phone.
Shut up, Slate.
Shut up, Slate.
I've been using the iPod Touch.
Even here in Europe, still have not turned the phone on.
Oh, yeah.
Were you in the phone?
Yeah.
Well, that's why you didn't get my text message.
No, you didn't send a text message.
Aha!
How would you know that not using the phone?
Because I use a forwarding system that will give me a notification if you sent me a text message, but I do not receive it on my phone as a text message.
Uh-huh.
All right.
That's what you say.
Anyway, so these guys are being forced to put this...
Ugh, this stinks.
By the way, sysadmins, a lot of them wear dresses.
Kilts, I should say.
Maybe it's more like a kilt.
And it's a good look.
It stinks.
No, I think if you've got the legs and you've got the boots...
A lot of guys, if you've got great, gorgeous legs and shave them, you'll be looking good.
No, no, no.
You don't want to shave the legs.
That's not a good look with the kilt.
No, you want to have, like, hairy, stocky legs.
I have no calves.
That's my problem.
So it looks like, hey, what's this guy with the Barbie legs?
It's not a good look.
It's not.
Well, you just don't understand.
Alright, what else we got here?
A lot of these kind of Bermuda shorts, these guys, these baggy old shorts, they look like a skirt.
Brad Thor, this is another author.
Brad Thor, I think he's kind of like, what's the guy, Clancy?
Tom Clancy.
This is kind of like a Clancy-like guy.
And he was being interviewed about his most recent book, which I have two quick clips here.
He mentions the name of it in the second clip.
But he was being interviewed, and what are you banging me for?
It was a mistake.
It was an accidental ding.
He was being interviewed on some show.
It was probably like a CBS or ABC. It wasn't the Good Morning America, but it was one of these douchebag shows.
And he says something that just kind of...
He slips out there kind of...
We've known about it, but I never knew the actual code name for this program that apparently a lot of writers were slept into after 9-11.
Why is this not starting?
Hello?
Why are we not working here?
Great segue, Ryan.
Trying to get to the book.
You wrote another thriller, and you're part of Homeland Security's Red Cell program.
Tell us about that and how that factors into what you write about.
After 9-11...
The Department of Homeland Security invited creative thinkers in from outside D.C. to help them figure out, help them plot what the next terrorist attack might look like.
So what they said is, they said, will you come in and apply your creativity to national security the way you do your books?
And so I call it the Las Vegas of government programs because what happens in the red cell stays in the red cell.
I can't use it for my books.
How about that, huh?
The Red Cell?
The Red Cell program where they ask creative people to use their creative thinking and he doesn't even say to come up with scenarios that terrorists might use.
No, it's basically just dream some crap up that, you know, I don't know, like, how about this?
How about a bombing at the marathon?
I mean, this is disgusting.
Red Cell Program.
Here's a little bit more from this Brad Thor guy.
Can you call your books Faction?
I do.
What does that mean?
Now listen to what he says.
This is really important because, remember, his job is to dream up scenarios and dream up stories for the Department of Homeland Security and whoever else is in our security apparatus.
Books.
For instance, Blacklist was all about the NSA and the explosion of surveillance technology.
I shouldn't say, I don't write textbooks, I write beach reads, Ludlum, Clancy.
And when I toured for that book, I said, the next big thing we'll talk about in the public square is the NSA and the total surveillance state.
This book here, I believe, is the next, next thing we'll be talking about in the public square.
So the faction is, I'm taking real life things that I kind of see coming over the horizon, applying that creativity like I do for DHS, and putting those into novel form.
So you have Can you believe this?
Applying the creativity that I do for DHS? Are you kidding me?
What is going on here?
Wow!
So two years ago, this guy writes about the NSA, which I haven't read any of his books, nor will I ever.
And this is now, of course, everyone's talking about the NSA. So now he has this new book, which he believes is the next new, new thing.
What could it be about, John?
Because I have the answer, of course, but I'd love to hear your guess.
The next thing, I don't know, dirty bombs, people relaxing our vigilance and then bad things happen, bombs going into Syria, having a battle with Russia, I don't know.
Nope.
Nope.
I'm so sorry.
All of that is wrong.
Have a great beach read, but when you close it, you're smarter for having read the book.
And this is about the Federal Reserve, right?
Right.
Federal Reserve, which is about as federal as Federal Express.
There's a lot of wacky conspiracy theories about the Fed, but the true history of the Fed is fascinating.
It's like it's been ripped out of a spy novel, and I said, I want to weave the Fed into my next thriller.
And that's what I did with Hidden Order.
Alright, so the Federal Reserve, that will be the next big thing we'll all be talking about.
That'll make him a target for someone.
Well, I don't know.
He's a part of the Red Cell program, man.
This guy may be protected.
Who knows?
I don't know.
Let's take a look at him.
Well, he looks like a college fraternity guy.
Yeah, he does look kind of slick, doesn't he?
Kind of douchey.
69, very douchey looking.
Author of Alliance of Lucerne, Path of Assassin, State of the Union, Blowback, Takedown.
First, he cranks out a lot of books.
But for him, well, of course, because he's a part of the Red Cell.
And why would they even call it Red Cell?
These are things that at night I lie awake and think about this.
Why do they have this douchebag?
Who comes up with the idea?
It's like, okay, let's call these guys.
I mean, come on!
How stupid do we have to be to see what's going on here?
Red cell term in U.S. government parlance for teams that test the effectiveness of tactics.
Hmm.
There's also an NCIS episode titled Red Cell.
Wait a minute!
That's not allowed because what he said, that's not allowed.
You're not allowed to take your writing for the red cell and use it in your own work.
So someone violated it.
Not necessarily.
They may not have been a member.
They may have a friend who's a member and they wrote a story about it.
Not true.
Being irked by the whole thing.
Well, regardless.
Red teams or red cells of the United States government parlance for the National Security Coordination Team, NSCT. These teams or units are designed to test the effectiveness of American tactics or personnel.
Red Cell was reported to be a U.S. Navy SEAL team composed mainly of members of SEAL Team 6, otherwise known as OP-06D, which has been organized to attempt to infiltrate or otherwise test the security of U.S. military bases and other insolation-sensitive U.S. security interests.
The original Red Cell group was led by a former commander of SEAL Team 6, DevGrew, Richard Mark Cinco until he was relieved and charged with various offenses, including misappropriation of funds.
Red Team is also a term for opposing force.
Opt for in a war game by Western nations during the Cold War.
It goes on.
This is a different...
The term has been co-opted by the Department of Homeland Security, from what I can tell.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Anyway.
Hmm.
Very good.
Yeah.
You know what?
know what?
Let's take a little break here.
It's really weird to It's like 10 to 8 in the evening.
It feels...
Your timing has to be horrible.
You seem to be rolling along.
It's the drugs, man.
It's the drugs.
Well, we'll get to that later.
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Another Londoner, anonymous.
Can you please not read my...
Yeah, yeah.
Give me some good karma.
It's been a very difficult summer and just a bad day.
Want to start a new one with a good deed.
My donation to the show.
The show is great.
We'll do some karma for that any time.
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You've got karma.
Heck yeah.
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Colin Wilson, $99.99 from Rosanna, Victoria, Australia.
They should give him a niner thing.
Okay, hold on a second.
It's not all that easy.
Yeah, apparently.
Hold on, hold on.
Where's the niner?
All right, niner thing.
I was already trying to...
Niner!
I'm still trying to get the 69er thing going.
Frank Pugh, 75 bucks from Tallahassee, Florida, thinks our shows are great.
We've been hitting the home run left and right.
He says, I realize I live at the perfect trifecta of success.
Sadly, when I self-identified, I was surprised it does not even get me free coffee.
Oh, well.
Andre Schmid.
69!
69, dude!
We had a slew of 69s again, so it's gone from almost dead to way up.
Schmid's in Lusanne, Switzerland.
It's kind of cool.
He's got a birthday call-out coming for one of his people.
Brian Brown in Orange, California.
He says it's raining.
Peter Marks in Fairlawn, New Jersey.
May Swazzle Enough never die.
Sam Leung, or Leung, in Toronto, who keeps coming in with...
Sir Sam and Sir Michael Miller in Tiburon, who comes in with another 6969.
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Jeff Dickens, 6969, from Winnipeg, Manitoba, who is a long-time boner, first-time donor.
Appreciates the hard work.
That was Jeff Dickens.
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He's actually from the Dominican Republic, apparently.
We just need more Dominican Republic guys listening.
Michael Stadujar in Sierra Vista, Arizona.
Charles Weitenheimer.
In Tucson, Arizona.
And finally, Sir David Baker in Groningen.
Groningen.
Which I thought was Groningen.
Groaning again.
He's from Groningen again, Netherlands.
69!
69, dude!
That's the northern part of the Netherlands, also known as the backup for Scandinavia.
Oh, okay.
Fawn Fletcher, 6413 in Espyville, Pennsylvania.
That's where they give the Espy's out.
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Mr.
Max Powers in Redding, California, 5555.
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Lon Baker, Emeryville, California, over here, 5510, right down the street from me.
Fawn Fletcher, again, 5413 in Espyville.
She says thanks for the show.
I guess he's crossed somehow these two donations from her.
Eric Schmidt in Frankfurt, Deutschland.
Baron Jeffrey Gerlach in Lincoln, California.
And he's a Baron, so he wants job karma.
We have to give it to him.
You've got karma.
Job karma right there for you, Baron.
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50 each.
50-02 for the Cuban.
Cuban, Cuban, Missouri.
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From Spring, Texas and Cumming, Georgia.
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That's down the street from me.
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And they came in as a check.
I think they sent a note.
Mary Mesner in Fair Oaks.
I do have a note from Mary, which I want to...
Fair Oaks, California?
Yeah, I believe so.
You have to get your pen out again.
Oh, okay.
I sent it to him, but he didn't put this one down.
He needs a birthday call out for her.
Oh, no, wait, he does have it on the list, I'll bet.
I did see it on the list, just not highlighted in yet.
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Here's why I'm laughing.
I loaded up my iPod Touch with four podcasts to listen to on the plane.
They're dry and boring.
I can't help it.
It's like I listen to that one.
Yeah, she's right.
Dry and boring.
Yeah.
It's a fact.
They're dry and boring.
And the ones that are trying to be just funny all the time, they're just annoying.
They're annoying.
They miss stuff and they don't...
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I hate to say this, but I don't really hate to say it, but I'm going to say it.
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He has to hear moaning and groaning all night.
And it's hot, and it's very warm.
It's hot and muggy and stinks.
It stinks.
I do stink.
So anyway, that's our donors for show three, what is it?
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I can't read.
I have to admit it.
I can't read today.
It must have happened to me for some unknown reason.
So, good news.
You know, if you study culture, there's a lot of stuff that is culturally created and developed.
In the California culture, the New York...
In fact, we have a...
I think we have a jingle for it.
What is wrong?
Oops.
Something's...
Oh, God.
Here it is.
We have a jingle for it, for whatever you're going to talk about.
Culture creationism.
There you go.
Culture creationism.
Wow.
Pretty good.
I've never heard that jingle before.
Yeah, it took a while to hear it, but it was good.
So the thing in Los Angeles, not San Francisco.
I mean, San Francisco does have its moments, I think, in the 60s.
But generally speaking, most of the culture is created in Southern California.
And so now we have a thing happening.
And first I want you to play, this is the Pot Smokin' Moms.
And start with the package and then we'll go on to the Pot Smokin' Moms themselves.
Oh, so which one do I, oh, package.
Pot Smokin' Moms package.
Okay, hold on one second.
I am there for you now.
Secret.
Pick me up for some Beverly Hills moms.
They say it's marijuana and that that is the mommy's new helper.
It makes them better wives, they say, better mothers.
It's all legal, medical.
Stop right there.
Totally agree.
Makes them better mothers and better wives.
...in California with marijuana purchased at dispensaries with a prescription, but it's giving new meaning to the term potluck party.
Oh, no.
On a recent evening at a home in Beverly Hills, a few moms gathered to enjoy food, friendship, and a few laughs.
I do garnish incredibly well.
But this was no ordinary potluck party.
Vaporizer time.
Welcome to the Beverly Hills Cannabis Club, a place where marijuana moms congregate to take a break from the stress of family life.
So this is Strawberry Pop.
Your hostess, the self-proclaimed Martha Stewart of marijuana, Cheryl Schumann.
Cannabis not only made me a better mom, cannabis made me a better human being.
Cannabis made you a better mom?
Absolutely.
This is great.
There's a reality show in here, right?
Tell me there's a reality show.
No, there's not yet.
But this messaging is dynamite, and it's got to be just galling the DEA and all these other people.
Because this is like, we're not in a dump.
We're not in somebody's basement.
We're not in a kid smoking dope and kicking.
We're in Beverly Hills.
We're in Beverly Hills in a beautiful house.
And there's a bunch...
And all the women are gorgeous.
And their daughters are there.
And they're all smoking from this big translucent bag.
I don't even know what they're doing.
Oh, they're doing...
They're vaporizing.
Vaporizing.
Yeah.
Okay.
Whatever.
So they all have this and they're passing it around.
And they're pleasant.
They're not...
Hey, man.
Oh, man.
I'm toast.
I'm wasted.
There's none of that.
They all seem...
It doesn't do it.
It seems like it's ineffective.
But they're all...
I want to play the second part but before we do that I want to mention something for people out there who at some point this is going to become a big deal because the show began and I think this may have been a package put together because Drug companies aren't advertising enough on Good Morning America because it started off with a slam against Prozac and some others.
Okay, yeah, so it's like you're not advertising enough.
Hey, if you guys don't advertise, we're going to start advertising the free stuff.
Exactly.
So I think there's maybe an element of that, but I do want to mention some, just a side note.
The woman who is the Martha Stewart of dope, she is producing a bunch of food for these people and garnishing it with marijuana leaves.
And I want to remind people that marijuana should not be eaten raw under any circumstances.
It has to be cooked because it has these little...
My next-door neighbor, a neurologist, gave me this lecture.
They have these little hooks, these very microscopic hooks that when it goes through the digestive system, it latches on to the intestinal walls and hangs there for a while, giving you all kinds of cramps and other problems.
You do not ever eat marijuana.
Another fun-filled tip.
No agenda show.
So these women, again, this leaf garnish is not a good idea, so she's an idiot.
So let's play the moms talking about this and how cool it is.
Are they baked, these moms, when they're talking here?
That's the joke of it.
They're not.
They're just kind of happy.
One day I was at my therapist's office, and I told them, I said, please help me get my life back.
And he said, you need to smoke a joint.
So I took a hit off of it.
I was smiling and happy, and I was like, this is really great!
But critics might say, yes, you are high.
I was definitely medicated, but I will tell you that I felt better having two puffs of cannabis at that time than I had ever had any kind of results with pharmaceuticals.
Cheryl's daughter Amy agrees.
I felt like my mom was checked out on prescription pills.
It was like living with a zombie.
But when she would smoke, she was smiling.
She was connecting with us.
It felt like we had our mom back.
Medical marijuana is now legal in 18 states, but parenting and pot?
Still taboo.
You know, though, there are people that are thinking...
Mothers who smoke pot are bad moms.
I'm going to tell it from the point of view of my 10-year-old child.
When I'm in pain, I'm in bed for days.
I don't talk.
I'm miserable.
My son will come up to me and say, Mom, it's time to medicate.
That's what I mean.
He means go get some cannabis.
Come back to us.
That's what I tell you.
If your 10-year-old child is okay with it, I think adults should be okay with it.
It's a controversial story, but you know, there was a headline recently that more women in America are dying of prescription drug overdose than anything else, than anyone else.
So these moms maintain that marijuana used responsibly is a safer alternative.
Although we should point out, fought with a prescription in California.
And many of them aren't.
Wow.
That was Good Morning America?
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
Wow.
That's...
That's flaminant.
That's surprising.
This is the way publishers are supposed to operate.
Not that I'm saying that this is what you do and that it's ethical, but there's two ways things can go down in publishing, and I would include the broadcasting industry.
One, the advertisers push you around.
Two, you push the advertisers around.
And that's certainly working here.
That serves the audience better.
So they are shoving it up the butts of these guys who apparently are not advertising enough and at the same time creating this very interesting meme.
And I think the other takeaway from this that I got was that the constant use by the women, the moms, the Beverly Hills stoners, is the word cannabis.
Instead of marijuana, cannabis.
Or shit, or Mary Jane, or anything.
Weed.
Weed.
They don't call it any of that.
They call it cannabis.
And I think that's a very interesting change because that has a legitimate sound to it that doesn't make you sound like a doper.
In fact, I think you need to write that down.
I think that belongs in the Red Book.
I think it's a very good catch.
But we need to specify that you also have to pronounce it a little elitist.
It has to be cannabis.
It can't just be cannabis.
It has to be cannabis.
Cannabis.
And I think this is a good catch, John.
I'm down with that.
But it could also...
It could also be a lead-in to synthetically produced cannabis, which we've been waiting for this to come onto the market.
It could be a very elaborate lead-in to that.
It's possible, but the way they were slamming the pharmaceutical companies in that piece, I don't think this particular piece had anything to do with that.
I think that would be a separate...
How about the word hemp?
Do you think that'll be used or is it just really cannabis?
I think hemp is going to separate the two because hemp is now showing up.
I just bought, as a matter of fact.
Some hemp?
No, but I bought some hemp fudgesicles.
Yeah.
So I'm at the grocery outlet, or as we call it locally, Gross Out, which I like to shop at because they have all these experiments and things that they tried to market and they couldn't, so it all goes through the system.
And it comes over, it ends up at Gross Out, and you go buy the stuff.
They say, oh, that's an interesting test, but no wonder nobody wanted it.
Well, one of the things they have right now in the ice cream section are hemp bars.
By the way, they're absolutely fantastic.
They have two of them.
One of them is the fudgesicle.
The hemp fudgesicle is made with zero milk and no soy milk or any of these other things.
It's made with hemp milk.
I don't know what hemp milk is, but apparently you can make a milky substance by whipping up hemp around.
But it's just protein, right?
There's nothing else in there.
The marijuana plant, I'm sorry, the cannabis plant, is...
It's a fantastic plant.
It's magical.
You can build all kinds of stuff out of it.
It burns hotter than coal.
You can eat it.
There's a million things you can do with it, which is obviously why it's illegal.
It's not just because of the smoke.
You can make rope from it.
You can make paper from it.
You can make fabric from it.
Depending on the breeding of the plant, I mean, the rope hemp usually is...
It doesn't have enough THC to do anything.
But essentially, there's all these things you can do with the product.
It's amazing that they made it illegal.
The Hearst Corporation had something to do with that because they owned a bunch of forests and they didn't want hemp.
Well, that's the story I always learned, is that it was because the Hearst owned all of the trees, the paper mills, but people were figuring out they could make paper a lot more effectively with hemp, and it would be a lot cheaper.
And by the way, it's called a weed for a reason, because you basically just throw that into some mud, and it grows.
It's a very easy plant to maintain.
Yeah.
So I think this was a very central piece because it's from the culture capital.
It's Beverly Hills.
It's got the women.
It's women-oriented, not men.
There wasn't a guy in the place.
It's all women.
And the mom is back from being medicated and an idiot.
She couldn't get out of the bed and all the rest.
I mean, this messaging was just jaw-dropping.
I like it.
So expect to see more of the same.
Yeah, I like it.
Well, we'll see.
Either that or we'll get a whole bunch of new products.
Of course, it is also summertime.
Advertising is low anyway.
It's not really time.
I think everyone's loaded up on their prescription.
They're off on holiday.
They're all popping the pills.
But it's possible.
I hope you wrote it down.
I think keeping up the whole cannabis vibe, I think that's a good point.
I'm surprised.
I'm very surprised that was on ABC. Yeah.
Can you imagine?
Maybe we have Diane Sawyer smoking a joint on ABC. She could do it.
I think she'd be a better stoner.
Wow, man.
Woo! Woo! Woo!
We won't be able to use our jingle, though.
My head's spinning, man.
We'll never need new jingles.
I'm stoned again!
I love me some drunk Diane Sawyer.
Stoned would be even better.
I agree.
So I'm watching the News Hour or whatever, that drama about this liberal news thing, whatever, this news show.
I have no idea what you're talking about.
People talk about it's called News Room or News Hour.
It's a drama.
Oh, no, no.
You mean on HBO? Yeah.
Yeah, where they pretend that the news is real.
And then they also rewrite history.
It's the Sorkin thing, yeah.
Yeah, Sorkin.
We saw one episode before we left, and it was the season opener, and I was like, whatever.
No, it's terrible.
But I've got this little clip.
The clip is called Oklahoma Slam.
And so I'm watching this show, and they're talking about...
There's two shows that compete within the structure of the drama.
And one of the shows has got different guys from the other show, and it's bullcrap.
But this one show, they've got a woman going on about all the stupidity.
Americans don't know.
There's a moon.
They can't identify.
By Illinois on a map.
They can't find the Middle East on a globe and that kind of thing.
And so they're rattling this off, some of these details.
I don't have this short clip.
And then out of the blue, because they're doing it from the perspective of one of the producers watching the woman yak about this.
And then he makes a gratuitous slam.
And I'm just thinking, what?
Who woke up on the wrong side of the bed about this?
In which the Civil War was fought.
One in four thought Columbus discovered the New World sometime after 1750, and if the Bill of Rights were abolished, a third of high school students wouldn't be able to name a right they'd just lost.
Things get worse in Oklahoma.
We almost always do.
I don't know.
What's that about?
She says things get worse in Oklahoma.
Now they just slip that in.
I think that's an inside producer joke or something.
Well, this is a slam.
It's an insult to all you Oklahomans out there.
Give to the No Agenda show.
I watched the first season of that show.
Is it called Newsroom?
Is that what it's called?
I think it's Newsroom.
What's his name?
Jeff Daniels?
Yeah, Daniels.
We're getting there.
I watched that show with Mickey.
Here's how it goes.
Mickey goes, Nipples!
I'm like, what?
Nipples?
Apparently, the producer chick, whatever her name is, the British chick?
Yeah.
Her nipples are showing the whole show.
And I keep missing it.
Oh, huh.
Yeah.
Apparently, so did you.
Yeah.
I didn't notice.
All right.
I got a...
It's like, you know, women see a lot of things that are weird.
Yeah.
Women will...
If there's a guy...
Mimi has pointed this out to me a couple of times.
I'm driving along, you know.
And she says, look at that guy.
He's got his dick hanging out.
And I said, what?
Where is this?
Where are you driving?
Is this Washington State?
We're in San Francisco.
San Francisco.
This is the last time it happened.
It was a few years ago.
It's not that common.
But I'm driving along, and we're going up the hill to get on the freeway, you know, where you used to have a place.
And there's a seafarer's union, and there's a guy standing out in front of the place.
Oh, it's on the corner of where I used to live up there.
Yeah.
Exactly.
The guy's standing there with his dick hanging out, and she spots it immediately.
And she's like, yeah, he's got his dick hanging out.
And so I look over, and I say, what are you talking about?
I look and look and look, and I couldn't even see it.
I don't know if I was looking at his heads or something.
And I see the guy with his dong hanging out.
I said, oh, that's weird.
And I'm reminded of a time that I was...
Meanwhile, when you're walking around the house with your dick hanging out, you can't get any attention.
Exactly.
So I am with the group at PC Magazine, and one of the PR girls were in a car park at some hotel, and one of the PR women says, look at that guy, he's playing with himself!
The guys are all, what?
What?
She says, look, that guy over there, that guy in the bin, she pointed him out, and you could see, I would have never seen this in a million years.
Women spot this stuff a mile away.
The guy's got both hands in his pockets, and he's obviously playing with himself.
If you took a good look.
Excellent.
Good work.
So congratulations, ladies.
Yes.
It's something about the ladies.
Nipples.
I'm telling you.
And I stopped the thing.
I rewind it back.
I said, what are you talking?
And lo and behold, I'm trying to follow the story.
You know, nipples.
What?
And now it's become a thing where I watch the show.
I'm like, where are the nipples?
I can't follow it.
I don't know.
Well, anyway, there you go.
Here we are, two dudes talking about chicks and what they see.
How sad are we?
Happens.
At least we're not talking about comic books.
It's an inside joke.
Yeah, that's pretty inside.
Well, I was going to throw this one at you.
Here we go.
All right.
On the No Agenda Show.
Hey!
Crackpot!
The show, Marvel Superhero Squad, owned by Disney and geared for four to eight-year-olds, is a kiddie take on the Marvel superheroes.
I've seen many episodes and it never takes anything seriously, but in Season 1, Episode 22, Flatman, a very boring superhero...
Has a special message for the kids.
Now remember, this is a Disney show.
And this is from our producer, Matt, who caught this and was kind enough to clip this.
Glossiraptor legs!
Yeah!
Um, flatman, we better get to higher ground.
Nonsense.
The waters won't get any higher.
I refuse to believe that global warming could possibly...
Sheesh!
I've heard of the head in the sand approach.
This is more like head under the water.
Brachiosaur jam!
Okay, so could you hear that?
Because the volume's a little bit low.
I could hear something about some effete creep saying global warming is bogus.
Right.
And then the kids go nuts on him.
Right.
So essentially we have this superhero, Flatman.
Of course, that means he's like Flat Earth Man, I guess.
And so he's against global warming.
And here he is again with these kids.
And this is just unbelievable slave training.
Hold on.
Let me see if I can up this volume a little bit.
I'm sorry.
I'm not at the normal station here, so...
Can I do this with some output?
Yeah.
Hold on.
Let's see if this works.
Hello, I'm Dr.
Val Benchura, also known as Flatman.
Welcome to the conference on global warming.
My assistant reptile isn't a super genius like me, so please forgive him if he says anything silly.
Let's begin.
Mr.
Sun, as seen here, has gotten angry with poor Mrs.
Earth and has decided to turn off the heat.
Uh, wait, Flatman.
Global warming is about greenhouse gases.
You know, pollution that comes from our cars and factories.
It traps the heat from the sun.
You're welcome to your opinion, but you're wrong.
Look at my powerful drawings.
Mr.
Sun is so mean.
Grrr.
Wait a micro tesla Why would you put a self-destruct button on this machine?
Can you believe that?
Wow, that's a great catch.
And, yeah, sorry about the levels, but I think on the recording and on the live stream, people are able to hear it.
I mean, that's unbelievable.
So they're essentially taking Mr.
Flatman, the superhero, and he's propagating the, oh, the sun is so angry with the earth.
But then, you know, it's like, no, you're wrong and you're bad.
It's bad for you to say that because it's greenhouse gases.
I'm like, wow, this is propaganda for little slavelets.
Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
There's no denying it.
No, well, in fact...
You know, regardless of what anyone's opinion is, I think it's really not okay for either any type of messaging really like this in children's programming from Disney.
It's some producer, you know, with a hair up his ass.
You know, it's probably a, you know, I know the type.
Yeah.
Yeah, we do know the type.
Anyway, yeah, that's disgusting.
So I got an interesting little thing I thought was good.
Okay.
An ex-senator from New Hampshire, who I think was a Republican of all things, was, I believe, rousted by some of the right-wing people.
I don't have him reading the note, but I have that guy on Democracy Now!
who takes over when Amy Goodman, the guy with the funny-looking mustache, when Amy Goodman is now reading the guy's letter.
This, I think, is very cool.
I don't know what to play here.
It is Humphreys, sends not, but it should be note.
Oh, okay.
That's why I was confused.
Okay, here we go.
And former two-term Republican Senator Gordon Humphrey of New Hampshire, who emailed Edward Snowden on Monday, and he wrote in part, quote, Mr.
Snowden, provided you have not leaked information that would put in harm's way any intelligence agent, I believe you have done the right thing in exposing what I regard as massive violation of the United States Constitution.
Having served in the United States Senate for 12 years as a member of the Foreign Relations Committee, the Armed Services Committee, and the Judiciary Committee, I think I have a good grounding to reach my conclusion.
I wish you well in your efforts to secure asylum and encourage you to persevere.
I just thought this guy, of course, he's a Republican, kind of, I guess, an old-fashioned Republican who cares about these sorts of things.
And nobody, everybody else is calling this guy a traitor and a dipshit and a, you know, because we have our own theories which are alien to everything else.
But the real point is that the way people react to him is worth studying.
And it's just like one lone guy, you know, an ex-senator with good creds.
Yeah.
It's not like a slouch.
Yeah.
He says, this is ridiculous.
And it brings up the point, I'm sure there's a bunch of ex-politicians and other people that are just saying, why isn't everybody reacting like this?
Well, meanwhile, we have the Bradley Manning trial going on, which is getting, I think, very little attention from what I can tell, or it's sporadic at best, of course.
Yeah, they're trying to submerge that thing.
Well, I mean, so the whole idea here is to find a way to justify calling a whistleblower or anyone who...
Essentially, anyone who does anything that is not on board with the program to classify you as a traitor.
And a traitor, of course, means you would be aiding and abetting.
And is it not comforting, I think?
Is it comforting the enemy?
Is it aiding, abetting, and comforting?
Yeah, it refers to aiding and abetting, yeah.
Right, but I think comforting is also a part of it.
Not that that's relevant to this clip, but the way they are now classifying Bradley Manning, who leaked documents to WikiLeaks, who, of course, WikiLeaks didn't actually publish it immediately.
They sent it off to the New York Times and the Guardian and the Bilt and all these other mainstream publications.
But here's how they're going to get this guy and lock him up.
Judge Lynn says that Manning's training made him aware of the fact that terrorist organizations use the internet.
Therefore, he should have known that the 700,000 military and diplomatic documents that he leaked could end up in the hands of America's enemies one day.
So, in other words, if you say anything on the internet, you know terrorists use the internet, and therefore you are aiding the enemy.
Yes.
Well, this is...
A lot of people believe, and I'm one of them, that this is a ruse to go after all...
Everything.
Everything and everybody.
Yeah, all things internet.
Yes!
Yes!
And this shield law, of course, plays right into this because the shield law doesn't shield you from anything like this.
So if you write up any...
Like this red cell guy, you write up a scenario that may be giving somebody a good idea.
You're aiding and abetting the enemy by these definitions and they can get you for treason.
So essentially, you can't write about national security issues or scenarios or anything.
In fact, they could probably make anything sound like you're aiding the enemy.
What if you write a comedy act?
The funniest comedy act ever is hilarious.
The enemy, whoever this nebulous enemy is, let's see, the organization, the Bin Laden organization, which you should call it that.
The BLO. Yeah, the BLO. The BLO. Bin Laden organization, yes.
So they listen to the comedy act and crack up.
It's hilarious to them.
Is that not aiding and abetting the enemy?
Well, it's certainly comforting them.
Yeah, well, that's exactly.
It's comforting them.
And then, what's the other thing?
The wanton publishing.
Right.
I mean, this all is lining up like a perfect scenario to shut us down.
Yeah, I also have a feeling that this Trans-Pacific Partnership thing, this TPP, that is so secret, I somehow have a feeling that plays into this as well.
You know what I mean?
It's possible.
A definition of traitor.
Let me just see.
By the way, we have an undeclared war, so I don't see how any of this fits in with aiding and abetting the enemy.
What enemy?
Are we at war?
Is the Congress declared war?
I don't think so.
What is the definition of treason?
That's what it is.
Treason.
Treason.
Let me just see.
I know we've looked this up before.
Treason, legal.
Don't we have a thing?
Isn't there a constitutional treason clause?
There is, isn't there?
Yeah, but it just says treason.
You can't commit it.
Can you find?
I can't read.
I'm having a hard time reading today.
Do you want me to get the definition of treason?
Yes, please.
The constitutional definition, if you don't mind.
Would you like me to play a little music while you're looking this up?
Okay, well here's the straight up definition, which is crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.
Right, but that's kind of like what we would all understand, but then you have the constitutional definition, which is something about comforting, and we've talked about this, and aiding the enemy.
Yeah, play a little traveling music and I'll...
Here it is.
Definition of Treason in U.S. Constitution.
Article 3 of the U.S. Constitution.
That would be the one.
Please open.
Please open.
Article 3 establishes the judicial branch of the federal government and blah, blah, blah.
And there's treason in here.
Number of courts in your cell.
John, as a constitutional scholar, I'm quite disappointed you can't just rattle this off the top of your head.
This is...
A-S-O-N. Section 3.
Defines treason and is punishment.
Treason against the United States shall consist only in levying war against them.
Oh, it has to be a war.
That's right.
It cannot happen if there's not a war, which, of course, Bradley Manning was...
Iraq, I believe, was a declared war, was it not?
No.
Only use of force?
Congress agreed to something for the Iraq war.
Yeah, some bullcrap, but they never declared war.
Treason consists only in levying war against them or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.
Aid and comfort.
There you go.
In other words, you have to be...
You have to...
Well, now I'm going to loosen this up a little bit.
Treason against the United States would consist only in levying war.
In other words, I'm at war with my country.
I've decided to go to war against the United States.
All right.
Thus, I would be a traitor.
Right.
But or in adhering to their enemies, which if we don't have a war, there's no enemies, giving them aid and comfort, no person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses of the same overt act or in confession in open court.
The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work No attainder of treason shall work.
Corruption of blood or forfeiture except during the life of the person attained.
What does this mean?
is, I used to know this, in English criminal law, tinder or attinctura was the metaphorical stain or corruption of blood which arose from the condemned for a serious capital crime until losing not only one's property and hereditary titles, but typically tinder or attinctura was the metaphorical stain or corruption of blood which arose from the condemned for Science!
Science!
I don't want to say how that means anything to me, to us.
The Constitution defines treason as specific acts, namely levying war against the United States or adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.
The contrast is therefore maintained, this is on Wikipedia, with the English law, whereby a variety of crimes, including conspiring to kill the king or violating the queen, were punishable as treason.
The Supreme Court ruled that there must be actual assembling of men for the treasonable purpose to constitute a levying of war.
I think all of this means if you put something on the internet, you're a traitor.
That sounds right to me.
Can't you connect the dots already?
I mean, I can see somebody thinking that.
Whatever the case is, it just is an attack on...
This is a horrible attack.
Manning didn't...
What did Manning do, actually?
He violated his terms of employment, essentially, and that's what he should be charged with.
He didn't do treason.
He didn't do any of these things that I can tell...
You know, he sent out a bunch of confidential memos he wasn't supposed to do.
Yeah.
So it was 700,000 cables.
Yeah.
And all it did was embarrass Hillary.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Who likes to do business at funerals?
Hey, what do you think of the dead guy?
Ah, it's good he's dead.
Hey, by the way, you should contribute to my husband Bill's library.
Yeah.
It's good.
It's a good project.
So talking about that type of voice.
So I got the clip.
This is my last clip, I think.
I got the clip because I'm always referring to this clip from the movie Casino where the gangsters are going around about this guy.
Yeah, about bumping the guy off.
The lawyer, their best friend lawyer, who is just a great guy, and he's an attorney.
They can't really charge him with anything.
But they're killing everybody in the process of this trial that they're all in, all these old fartsters from the Midwest.
And the one guy at the very end is the leader, and whatever he really says goes.
Everybody else just kind of...
They have put their two cents in.
But it's like, this is the scene with the House of the Rising Sun playing in the background, which...
It kind of ruins it to use it as an evergreen clip.
But I just wanted to get it out there, so we got it.
I just had to play it.
And I agree.
I think it's a good idea.
Could you just put it into context?
Because we have mentioned this several times.
You need to put the clip into context of current day events.
Yeah.
The reason I can't...
I don't know any specific current day event, but I keep bringing this up, the idea that when you've got a situation, at the end of the day, instead of being reasonable, you do a scorched earth policy because why take a chance?
Why take a chance that anyone's going to do the right thing?
Why take a chance that they're not going to turn on you?
Why take a chance about stuff?
But this is the clip, just to get it out of the way.
They needed doctors at their arraignment.
And pretrial services recommends that bail remain as presently set.
We're going to take a 10-minute recess.
When it looked like they could get 25 years to life in prison just for skimming a casino, sick or no fucking sick, you knew people were going to get clipped.
So today the arraignment, they had this meeting right in the back of the courthouse.
See, when something like this happens, you know how things are going to work out.
It's always better with no witnesses.
So what about Andy?
He won't talk.
Stone's a good kid.
Stand-up guy just like his old man.
That's the way I see it.
I agree.
He's solid.
A fucking Marine.
He's okay.
He always was.
Remo, what do you think?
I'll leave.
Why take a chance?
At least that's the way I feel about it.
Yeah, that's how we're going to end Johnny Boy.
Why take a chance?
They're harmless, those guys.
Why take a chance?
All right, I got a final clip.
This is, I think it's, is it Senator Frank Wolf?
Is it Senator or Congressman?
Frank Wolf.
It sounds like a congressman.
He may be a congressman.
Frank Wolf has gone on this tear for the past couple days, and he says he's just not going to stop.
Of course, we're in kind of the low season here, and no one's watching.
Yeah, he's a congressman.
So he's just going at it every single day.
Here's his latest, and he'll be back at it again tomorrow.
According to trusted sources that have contacted my office, many, if not all, of the survivors of the Benghazi attacks, along with others at the Department of Defense and CIA, have been asked or directed to sign additional non-disclosure agreements about their involvement in the Benghazi attacks.
NDAs, as they call them, I've been told, were signed as recently as this summer.
It is worth noting that the Marine Corps Times yesterday reported that the Marine Colonel, whose task force was responsible for special operations in Northern and Western Africa at the time of the attack, is still on active duty, despite claims that he retired, and therefore could not be forced to testify before Congress.
If these reports are accurate, This would be a stunning revelation to any member of Congress.
Any member of Congress defines this out, and also, more importantly, to the American people.
Which is why, of course, it's all over the news.
Well, you got me on that one.
What's this NDA business?
I didn't know about...
Isn't that great?
It's fantastic.
Why would you have people that were at an event like, well, of course, we know why, because if anyone's listened to our show long enough, they know our thesis, our joint thesis on this is pretty straightforward.
It's a kidnapping that went awry.
Went awry.
Went wrong.
Yes.
And it ended up with the guy getting killed and the whole thing falling apart and humiliated everybody and there's lots of people yelling, we're sure, at each other.
But now they're having him sign NDAs?
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
That is unbelievable.
But it's not even a national security letter, it's an NDA. I guess worse than getting arrested, they're going to sue you into oblivion?
I mean, what is going on?
I'd like to see the wording of the NDA. I'll bet you it's worded like a national security letter with all these veiled threats.
Yeah, I'm sure it is.
Huh.
Wow.
Well, we'll keep tabs on that if nobody else does.
Okay, John, let's review.
So I'll tell you what my schedule is, and I'd love to hear what you're going to do.
So today is Sunday.
Tomorrow we fly to the south of France.
That's where my friend Michel has a house, and we'll be there with the, I think it's the ambassador of the Barbados, I think.
It's like a whole bunch of elites drinking champagne, so I'll have tons of stories from that.
By the way, the guy has narcolepsy, and he falls asleep all the time while you're talking to him, so I can't wait to see how he's doing.
Are they all Obama bots?
I have no idea.
No, I don't think so.
They're probably pretty elitist.
I don't know if they're Obama.
Well, maybe that makes them Obama bots.
I don't know.
Michelle's English.
He's British.
He's against everything.
But he's a drinker.
So, we'll be drinking up a storm.
Of course, on Thursday, we will release the Ramsey Cain, noagendaCD.com produced clip show, which I'm looking forward to.
I think it's going to be great because it's a third party.
It's not what we think is good.
And he's really good at pulling apart, you know, pulling out little bits and shorter clips.
So, it might actually be something you would call the primer or I would call the primer.
Then on Sunday...
So actually, I think Friday, Ms.
Mickey and I will then drive from the south of France to Florence and go visit Willow.
But by the way, I made a joke, or you made the joke about the Florence meetup.
Turns out we actually have a listener in Florence.
Besides Willow?
Does Willow even listen anymore?
Willow listens, yeah.
And he said, yeah, let's do the meetup.
But he's actually on vacation, so he won't be there, unfortunately.
So you're going to have you and Willow.
Yeah.
Well, Willow and her husband and the kids.
And so Miss Mickey will...
Ow, man, stop that.
Wow!
Why are you dinging me the whole time?
I'm just in a dinging mood.
I'm dingy.
Okay.
Sorry.
Then we're going to stay in Florence itself for two days at an Airbnb, of course.
Why book a hotel ever again in your life?
Then we fly back on Sunday or Monday, and of course by then we'll have our interview show.
Then we're going to be...
I'm going to be in Amsterdam...
Stop it!
Stop it!
I'm already tired.
Stop.
I didn't bring any noisemakers either.
I forgot all my toys.
Then we're going to be here for five days.
No, actually, the Sunday show I do from here, so we'll be back.
No, what am I talking about?
Do I even know?
No, it's Thursday, Sunday.
You've lost it, dude.
No, on Thursday.
No, the Thursday show.
We do the Thursday show.
I thought I was doing two shows here.
No.
No, just one show?
The Thursday show.
No, the way it was scheduled.
Yeah, I don't even know what I'm talking about.
Let me look at the calendar.
Hold on a second.
Am I saying this right?
So, okay.
So, one, two, three.
So, Sunday.
Today is...
What is today?
21st.
Oh, yeah.
No, I got it.
I got it.
So, the 28th is the interview show.
And then, yes.
And then August 1st, I do the show from Amsterdam.
And we are here and we fly back on the 6th so I can do Thursday the 8th show back from the Travis Heights hideout.
So Thursday...
No, hold on a second.
Yes, Thursday the 1st I'm here.
I'm in Amsterdam and I do another show from here.
Well, what about the 4th?
And I do that show from here too.
Okay, so you're doing a show on the 4th from Amsterdam.
Yeah, yes.
Okay, so the shows that we're not doing, the ones that we produce...
It's Thursday the 25th and Sunday the 28th.
Right.
Right.
So I'm doing two more shows from here.
So Thursday the 1st, I do the show from here, and Sunday the 4th, I do the show from here.
Are you going to stay in that same location?
No, we have a different Airbnb also on the third floor in a different part of the ghetto.
Okay, does the internet connection be as good?
Because this one was okay.
This was okay.
The only problem is very noisy, so even though I have the noise gate, which keeps down some of the...
I don't know if you could hear it, but motorcycles going by, cars, sirens.
It adds ambiance.
I like that, actually.
Well, I'm glad you like it.
All right.
So, yeah.
And then, of course, I'm going to see my daughter, which is always fun.
So I get to hang out with her.
And that'll be when we come back next week.
And I will have stories.
I'll have stories from the elites in France.
I will have stories of cannabis from Florence.
And stories of dirty streets and whatever.
Oh, we're also going to go to the Rijksmuseum, Ms.
Mickey and I, which is now open again here.
Oh, good.
It's cool.
It's a nice museum.
Yeah, it's a big deal.
All right.
It's newly refreshed.
So again, on Thursday, we bring you Ramsey Cain's Clip Show.
I guess we're going to do fresh intros for that, so that'll be fun.
And then the interview show on Sunday.
Coming to you from the third floor above the massage parlor with the purple lights in Amsterdam.
Gitmo Nation lowlands in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where my head's in the air, too, I'm John C. Dvorak.
We'll be back kind of virtually real.
Well, screw it.
Listen to the next episode.
You'll enjoy it.
And that'll be Thursday right here on No Agenda.
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