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476: Middle Class Infanteers

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	Calgary, here I come.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Sunday, January 6th, 2013.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 476.
	This is no agenda.
	Steadily becoming an alcoholic in the lowlands of Gitmo Nation.
	Day 32, living in exile in Amsterdam.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	Hello?
	That was hilarious.
	You had to have heard the way that worked.
	And your name is?
	And your name is?
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	From Northern Silicon Valley, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Nailed it!
	Excellent, excellent.
	So here's what happened.
	Good job.
	So you went offline.
	I did not go offline.
	You went offline.
	No, no, you went offline.
	Sure.
	But you were screaming and yelling in the way you normally do, which is the way we start the show.
	And then you can hear Skype going, I can't take it anymore.
	Skype actually said to you, I can't take it anymore?
	Yeah, it was a message.
	No.
	What was the message?
	I can't take it anymore!
	Well, I think this was great.
	And as far as I can tell, the stream didn't go away.
	Everyone could hear the entire opening sequence from my end.
	So, once again, it's your stuff that's not working.
	No, it's Skype.
	Okay, Skype.
	Skype unhooked on my stuff.
	Dude, you have no idea.
	It's your stuff.
	You just need to bite the bullet and upgrade to Comcast's business thing, whatever they're trying to sell you, because they'll keep jiggling the wires on you.
	It's just their strategy.
	Hey, they're on the air.
	What are you going to do, Bill?
	Watch this.
	Hey, that was a hilarious opening.
	Good job.
	Good job.
	We screwed them up again.
	Yeah.
	You know, that's funny because in the olden days, when the phone companies had to deal with open pipes, as it were, and they had these competitors come in for early internet service.
	Yeah.
	And this was in the 90s.
	There was common complaint because they had to use the same...
	That the phone companies were in, and these guys would always complain that the phone companies would come in and just pull their wires out of the socket.
	Yeah, oh yeah.
	And say, hey, screw you, you punk.
	No, out of those big strips.
	What are you going to do about it?
	Remember those big strips?
	The big plastic things, and you had a special tool, and you could, ka-chunk, ka-chunk, ka-chunk, you could push the wires in there.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Oh yeah, of course that's the way.
	They don't do anything like that.
	Anyway, so I'm becoming an alcoholic.
	Well, you better stop drinking, man.
	Well, I don't drink.
	I'm drunk already.
	I'm telling you.
	I understand.
	You could be drunk already, but you're not quite.
	Okay.
	I'm not.
	I thought admitting it was the first step in the right direction.
	But I understand.
	I kind of take back what I've said about the Brits.
	Who have very similar weather to what's going on here in the Lowlands.
	I mean, no wonder you people drink.
	It's like, you get up, it's gray.
	How was your day?
	It was gray.
	It's like, drink.
	And now, in Gitmo Lowlands, they've also, I think it's a year or whatever, they've had this no smoking in bars policy.
	Which, by the way, half of the bars ignore that.
	And they have an upstairs, you can drink and smoke upstairs.
	But the one right down below, right off to the side, Of where we're renting our Airbnb Ikea apartment.
	They have a no smoking indoors policy.
	So on Friday night and Saturday night, people go out to drink and smoke.
	On the street.
	Yeah, until like 3 in the morning, and it's like underneath our window, and of course now I'm not smoking, so we smell the smoke.
	You might as well be.
	The smoke is coming up, and we're turning into smoke Nazis now, because now I can smell it, and I'm like, oh, that's disgusting.
	And they're loud, and they're laughing, and they're drunk.
	What am I going to do?
	Go down and party!
	This is why I'm not an alcoholic!
	This is my point!
	He was like, alright honey, let's get up.
	It's 2 in the morning.
	We might as well go drink with these fuckers.
	Let's go!
	So we're drinking quite a bit.
	This is entertaining, that's for sure.
	But I've noticed a couple of observations here.
	There's one thing that is really annoying the heck out of me, and that is trash bag technology.
	Now, when you pull the trash bag out of the bin and you want to dispose of it in the appropriate place, do your trash bags have like little plastic things that slip out of the holes and it's a built-in tie system?
	What are you talking about?
	Do you utilize trash bags?
	Yes.
	Okay.
	When the trash bag is full and you're taking it out of the bin and you need to close it to put it in its proper place, do you have built-in closing technology?
	No.
	Do you use twisty ties?
	No, no, no.
	You're talking about...
	I buy the bags that have the red...
	It's like a red piece of plastic inside.
	You pull on that and it closes the bag.
	I use those.
	I don't call that technology, but yes, I use those.
	This technology does not exist here.
	They still give you a box of bags with twisty ties.
	How insane is that?
	That's crazy talk.
	I'm telling you, the market is wide open for the Dvorak Curry Trash Bag Consulting Group.
	I can't believe this.
	I made a study of it.
	I said, honey, let's go to three different stores.
	Let's see if we can find proper trash bags.
	Now, I think in Austin we have the yellow strip in there.
	So you've got the red strip.
	I think I've seen the red strip.
	And it may be, you know...
	Hefty.
	Hefty.
	Yeah, but they don't have that here.
	They still give you a strip of ties.
	That's crazy.
	That just makes no sense to me.
	No, it makes no sense to me.
	Maybe there's something illegal about the red thing.
	That would be funny.
	I mean, even if they have it, why would anyone still be selling bags with the twisty tie system?
	That makes no sense, even if it's not illegal.
	Huh.
	Well, you know, they made illegal just in this last week, or since January 1, in the entire Alameda County, which includes Berkeley, I think they're the progenitors along with Oakland, the plastic bags at the store.
	Oh, you can't...
	At the grocery store, you mean, to take your stuff home?
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	So now when you go to the grocery store, you have to buy a bag.
	Which is one of those canvas things where the E. coli sits at the bottom?
	Right, yeah.
	The ones that...
	Yeah, the unsanitary plastic bags, it costs anywhere from a dime to 50 cents.
	I'm sorry.
	Someone in the chat room just said the Jews did that with the bags.
	I mean, come on, people.
	Let's pipe down a little bit.
	Hey, hey, hey.
	I'm telling you, this is exactly how we get into trouble.
	It was the Berkeley Hummers.
	Very few of them, which I might say are Jewish, although there are some.
	I do have a Hummer, by the way, on the clip list.
	Oh, really?
	Oh, this is good.
	Wait, I do have more, unless it's something really important about the bads.
	I'd rather hear about this craziness going on over there, because hopefully it won't be there forever.
	Well, so Nikki had her interview at the embassy.
	And this was...
	At the embassy?
	At the embassy.
	She got to go into the embassy?
	Yes, she had to go into the embassy.
	Okay.
	Now, however, we are learning...
	Well, we've already, of course, learned our lesson.
	You know, you have to fill out all the paperwork properly, you stupid slave.
	Otherwise, you get denied into the country.
	You have to do it right.
	No, but you have to...
	So, it says very specifically...
	When you go for your interview, right, she had to be interviewed, and she was able to get an appointment at 8.25 a.m., you know, two days after she called, but okay, 8.25 a.m.
	And the embassy, it's got...
	I mean, they've got...
	It's like a rat's maze.
	You know, they've got all these barricade walls.
	You can't really get to the front.
	I mean, you could not drive a tank into the front of the embassy.
	When I was in Madrid stuck with my stolen passport taken by gypsies.
	Damn gypsies!
	Seriously.
	They have an embassy there that's like that too.
	And it's also homely.
	It's like a very poor representation of the United States.
	It looks like it's Stalin.
	It's like Stalin designs these things.
	I think it technically is the consulate.
	I don't know if it's...
	The embassy is in The Hague.
	I think technically it's the consulate.
	Okay, well this was actually the embassy.
	And by the way, if you don't want to get robbed by gypsies, don't let the gypsy hooker rub up against you in future, just for future reference.
	Because that's how it happened.
	You know.
	That's how it happened.
	I know how it happened.
	It wasn't some gypsy hooker.
	Okay.
	By the way, it used to be you could fill out forms.
	Now you have to go online and fill out your form D160 and upload a picture.
	That has to be exactly the right proportions and pixels.
	It's like, oh yeah, I'm walking around with a scanner in my luggage.
	Oh yeah, that's a scam.
	Let me drop one of my things.
	When I had to get my short-term two-day passport to get out of the country.
	You had to get the picture at a specific place.
	Now, they have my picture in the computer already.
	Oh, yeah.
	Of course.
	Of course.
	From the other passport.
	There I am.
	I saw it.
	You know, there's my picture.
	Why don't you just move that picture?
	You see me?
	I'm standing right here.
	Hello.
	See, this and that picture, they both match.
	Why don't you put that on the document instead of having to walk across the hall to some scammer that's charging me $25 to take a Polaroid?
	Hey, let me ask you this.
	Was the guy where you had to take the Polaroid, was he a gypsy?
	I'm smelling a scam.
	So, yeah.
	So, you know, then there's that part.
	And then, of course, you have to print it out.
	You know, oh, yeah, of course, I'm walking around with a printer.
	So, you know, and it's not like, there's not, this is not a 24-7 economy like Kinko's.
	So, okay, so we find that, you know, luckily I had a thumb drive, you know, because it was like, oh, well, if you want to email it to a computer there, and then, because, of course, Mickey's on iCloud email or whatever, which doesn't have a web interface, you know, then it would cost you extra, you know, 15 euros if you want to, anyway, just a nightmare.
	Okay, so she has the appointment, she goes, and it said very specifically in the instructions, you cannot bring any electronic gadgets into the building.
	What kind of a Catch-22 is this?
	Well, here's the worst, because she has Taxi Eric, so Taxi Eric drives her there, and of course, all she has is her phone, and she's like, okay, I'll just leave my phone at the slave scanning device.
	Right, at the beginning.
	Right, and pick it up.
	So she's first in line, because she has the appointment, she gets to go through a special, of course, premium line, And she says, oh, here's my phone.
	And they said, oh, oh, wait a minute.
	You have to go all the way out, outside, outside, outside of the barricade, slave, and dispose of your phone, and then get in the back of the line, now 60 people, because you broke the rules, slave.
	And it's also like, you know, it's freezing.
	She has a cold.
	So she calls Eric, has to give the phone to Eric, She says, well, just come back in like three hours, whatever, because I have no phone.
	I can't call you.
	Woman alone.
	And that's now the system.
	You can't have a phone.
	What?
	Yeah.
	You cannot approach the embassy with a phone.
	When I went into the Madrid embassy...
	No service for you!
	You get in line and you stand outside in the cold and then they open the doors at exactly or one minute after they're supposed to open them and then you go in there and then there's a guy who collects all that stuff and he gives you a coupon and they put it in a bin.
	You stupid slave!
	Shut up, slave!
	You don't do that anymore?
	You cannot follow instructions!
	It's ridiculous!
	They make you not show up naked?
	I mean, what's the deal?
	Well, that would be a plus.
	They make you leave the premises.
	Leave the premises.
	Outside.
	Outside of the barricades.
	And go back into the slave line.
	Not the premium line.
	So, of course, I'm getting these texts.
	Mickey's like...
	It's essentially, ever since Janet Napalo...
	Well, I thought she had an appointment.
	Why did she have to go to any of this ring at all?
	Because she violated the rules.
	She came, she showed up with an electronic device.
	It says specifically you can't show up with an electronic device.
	She violated the rules.
	Therefore, all bets are off.
	In the back of the line, slave, without your phone.
	I'm telling you, this is, ever since Janet Napolitano took over Department of Homeland Security, it's a nation of Nazis, brown-shirted freaking Nazis, and that's the State Department who are inside, but it's Department of Homeland Security that has all this crap around it.
	It's nuts.
	You know, when I bitched about my experiences in the...
	Yes, we remember.
	And I wrote about it, and I got a letter, I think I mentioned this on one of the shows, from the State Department, from, I guess, one of the head of embassies or something.
	And she moaned and groaned at me, saying, you know, this and that.
	And she gave me no return email, no address, nothing.
	I couldn't get a hold of her to say where she was wrong, because she was.
	No one cares about you.
	But this is...
	Let me just remind you.
	That I have an uncle who was an ambassador.
	An ambassador for many years.
	Yes, an actual ambassador.
	And a very famous one.
	And as a part of the Department of State.
	And he can pick up the phone and call at least two living former presidents.
	He has on a speed dial just to say, hey, how you doing?
	Yeah.
	And I called him before.
	Remember, I was back home.
	I called him.
	He says, get a lawyer.
	And he said, get a lawyer.
	He said, Adam, I can't help you.
	Get a lawyer.
	Ever since Homeland Security showed up, he says, these people are trained to make your life impossible.
	Get a lawyer.
	This is a man who can call presidents.
	Now, maybe he just hates me.
	That's also possible.
	No, no, that wouldn't.
	I don't think so.
	But that just goes to show.
	Anyway, so with some luck, we will be hearing if Mickey...
	She wants a bogative name, too, by the way.
	She's a little upset that, you know, I'm Alan, you're Jeb.
	She's like, how come I'm still Mickey?
	I'm telling you.
	Oh, she's not saying that.
	She's literally said that.
	Literally.
	How come I'm still Mickey?
	She wants a pseudonym?
	She wants a new name, too.
	Well, let the audience decide.
	Yes.
	Now, speaking of...
	There's something you just said that triggered this in me.
	I'm not quite sure what it is.
	Anyway, remember I talked about the eco mode on the cars here?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so for those who...
	We got some letters on this, by the way.
	Yeah, we did, and I want to read one.
	So the Eco Mode, which is very strange, it's very unnerving.
	You're driving in a car or even in the cabs, this is where I notice it, and you come to a stoplight and the engine quits.
	It just goes off.
	And then when you hit the accelerator, it starts and then you move on again.
	It's pretty quick, but still it's a weird, it's really weird.
	It's nothing you want.
	No, it doesn't feel correct at all.
	It's like you stalled the car or whatever.
	Yeah, no, it's unnerving.
	So producer Blake, who's from Gitmo Nation East, the UK, says, I wanted to read this verbatim.
	He says, all new cars in Gitmo Nation East have this eco mode.
	They call it start-stop here, which is probably more correct than eco mode.
	He says, it sucks.
	The only reason they are including it, and this is why I thought of you, is to help the bogative mile-per-gallon figures as the extra-urban test includes stopping in traffic.
	Gitmo East is all about CO2 figures, which would make sense.
	All of Europe is like this now.
	And miles per gallon.
	There's a huge scam going on.
	A lot of the Ford models have published 50 miles per gallon.
	Everybody at work is struggling to get 35 miles per gallon from these crappy cars.
	Of course, our employer pays for fuel based on the manufacturer's figures, so everyone's now out of pocket for doing business miles on behalf of the company, losing 50-plus pounds a month from their own pay.
	Did you not test drive some car that said 50 miles a gallon and it couldn't get it?
	No, no, 47, 47.
	Okay.
	So this is bound to show up in America because we know the new legislation.
	I never thought his angle about the pay, you know, you get a certain amount per mile if you drive a car, a company car in company time or whatever.
	You get 40 cents, I think, is what it typically is in the United States, 40 cents a mile.
	It depends on your company.
	But I can see some cheap company like saying, well, you're going to drive a high mileage car.
	We're going to give you 30 cents a mile.
	Which is like, there's usually just a flat number and you get the best mileage you can.
	So this is kind of, maybe they do this in some places, most places they don't.
	And also the IRS gives you a certain credit.
	What kind of car do you drive?
	I mean, you know.
	So what I think is important is that since we have legislation now passed in the United States of Gitmo Nation, where all vehicles will have to adhere to some crazy mile per gallon in, what, 2015, I think?
	I think it's out further than that, but this isn't Obama.
	They want everyone to get 50 miles the gallon.
	Right, but this is the way to do it.
	I hate to tell you this.
	But this is the way to do it.
	This is what we're going to see.
	Well, it adds to, yeah, it's one way to do it.
	Ruin the car.
	Yes, this is what we're going to get.
	We're going to get the start-stop crap in America.
	Just for them to be able to use the same car and get more miles per gallon with the start-stop thing.
	Well, with the hybrids, you know, they essentially do that automatically because they're never running when you're stopped.
	The motor's not running.
	And then you hit the gas and it's all electric.
	So the electric takes off.
	And when you stop, the electric's not doing anything.
	So that, you know, it's essentially...
	The way I see it in the future, the way this is going, unless somebody puts a stop to it, which I don't see, you're just going to have to get a hybrid.
	That's all there is to it.
	Well, here it is.
	I've got it here.
	There's no solution to this.
	I've got it here.
	By 2025, that's 12 years, all new vehicles in the U.S. must have an average of the equivalent of 54.5 miles per gallon.
	But by 2016...
	A moped barely gets that.
	2016, it has to be 35.5.
	So that would be eco-mode territory, to get 35.5, as we just see from this email, with the start-stop thing going on.
	So put it in the book, start-stop.
	Your new car will have start-stop.
	Yep.
	I'm sure it will.
	And I've driven start-stop cars and gas cars, and it's a nightmare.
	It's annoying.
	Especially going up and down a hill.
	Believe me.
	You're not going to like it.
	It's unpleasant.
	Wait a minute.
	Just forget it.
	You're going to get a hybrid.
	I hadn't even thought about that.
	The start-stop thing, there's no hills here, so that's not a problem.
	So that is a problem in Hill Country.
	Yeah, which is most of the world.
	But this is only for new vehicles.
	I bet you that my truck will still be running by 2016.
	Probably.
	And Miss Mickey will still have a Range Rover by 2016?
	Well, that's another story.
	But they could be, you know, you'd never know.
	They could ban the older cars and you have to get special permits for them or who knows what.
	You have to pay more.
	Right now you pay less.
	Here's a scam.
	I'll put this in the book.
	Right now you pay almost nothing for older cars to get them registered because they're old.
	Let's think about this differently.
	If you're going to be somebody scrounging for money, let's start charging more for older cars to encourage people to get the new cars with the black boxes.
	No, no, no.
	But this is why we had the whole cash for clunkers thing.
	They destroyed cars.
	They literally destroyed the second-hand market.
	I mean, this wasn't just like taking cars and giving people credit for them.
	They were physically breaking the engines.
	Remember this?
	Yeah, it's hilarious.
	We'll see more of that.
	Just going...
	I mean, it's insane.
	It's just insane.
	It's insane.
	Well, well, well, well, well.
	Oh, that was fun.
	You know who else is...
	Let me just say something.
	Our president...
	Our vice president, I'm sorry, Joe Biden...
	Yeah?
	...is insane.
	Yeah?
	Did you see what he was doing to all the wives and the daughters of the new Congress?
	Did you see any of this video?
	No, I didn't see any of this video.
	Oh my god!
	So they had swearing in day.
	Right?
	Yeah.
	Let me see if I have two clips from him.
	Basically, he's meeting all of the Senate's families, and he's doing pictures.
	Taking pictures with him, which, by the way, are completely bogative pictures.
	But he has a mic.
	Somehow he's mic'd.
	I mic'd him.
	You can hear him.
	And he's just like, hey, baby, how you doing?
	Oh, yeah, this is so hot.
	This is so...
	Wow.
	Where is it?
	I have...
	Oh, crap.
	For some reason, it's gotten into the wrong...
	Maybe it's here, into the wrong...
	Because I have NBC making...
	Joking about it, whereas if this was anyone else, you know, it's a complete outrage.
	Hold on, where is...
	Well, I'm sure it wasn't him.
	What happened to my clip?
	Oh.
	Ah, this sucks.
	Hold on a second.
	This is such a good setup here.
	Hmm.
	Well...
	Sit around, get it, find it.
	I seem to have lost it.
	Hmm.
	Well, let's play one of your clips to get going while I look for it.
	Well, I mean, my clip is like anticlimactic after that lead-in.
	Well, okay, I have him talking to Senator King's wife, Angus King, and he's hugging her.
	You have to see the video, really.
	It's kind of hard to hear on the audio.
	And then someone just throws a Bible at her, literally like thrusts a Bible at her, and then she grabs it, and then you can hear O'Biden going like, oh yeah, yeah, here, you stand in the middle over here.
	And he's squeezing her back, and he's holding her tight.
	Just while he's getting sworn in?
	No, no.
	He's swearing Angus King, but they already are sworn in.
	This is just for the photo op.
	So he's literally arranging this photo op, and the guy puts his left hand on the Bible, and you hear O'Biden going like, oh, you just got to look official, so put your left hand on the Bible, raise your right hand.
	But they're already sworn in.
	The whole thing is one big bogot of fakeness.
	Let's see if you can hear it.
	I've been watching everything.
	It's the best news.
	Do you think they'll give us the time?
	Oh, I guess, I guess.
	I'm going to have you stand right in the middle, okay?
	You've got to stand there, and you get in the middle of us, okay?
	You're going to put us left here in the pile.
	What do I look at?
	Yeah, I bet it's a little hard to understand.
	No, I can hear it.
	You can hear it.
	Yeah, but you've got to see this video.
	I'm so angry now that I can't find this...
	This NBC clip, because you've got...
	They're all laughing about it, but the guy is insane.
	He's like, wow!
	He literally is looking at one of the senator's daughters and her boobs, and he's going like, ah!
	It's like he's drunk.
	Well, he is drunk.
	Yes, I can't believe that.
	He's drunk with power.
	I can't believe you haven't seen this.
	This is so outstanding.
	I don't know.
	It's gone.
	I've been watching mostly Canadian broadcasts.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah.
	Oh, really?
	There's stories like this.
	This is a good Canadian one.
	Plague girls in Edmonton.
	Who knew this was going on?
	To Edmonton now, where advocates are speaking out about protecting teens from sexual exploitation.
	It comes after two separate incidents where police say girls were lured online and forced into prostitution.
	Officers believe there could be other victims out there.
	CTV's Brianna Carstens-Smith has more.
	Yeah.
	So apparently they're luring in Edmonton.
	Is that so strange that it's happening in Edmonton?
	Well, Edmonton's pretty staid.
	I've never seen a hooker in Edmonton.
	There was something else.
	Was there some kind of huge thing about some kids that had, I guess, sexually assaulted some girls after a party and took pictures of them?
	Yeah, why Steubenville's the clip?
	This will bring you up to speed.
	Okay, because I was reading about that.
	The online activist group known as Anonymous held a rally in the small town of Steubenville, Ohio, which has been rocked by allegations of rape and cover-up.
	Anonymous says it's uncovered information that points to a cover-up to protect school football players.
	Cover-up, Anonymous says, includes not only the players but also town officials.
	Today, anonymous members wearing their trademark Guy Fawkes masks are hosting a demonstration in the town.
	And Steubenville's city manager and its police chief today launched a website, steubenvillefacts.org, to keep the community up to date on the case.
	It began after a videotape surfaced last week of a teenage girl being raped last August by at least two teenage boys, reportedly members of a school football team.
	Huh.
	So is this another coat?
	I have a clip of Dr.
	Drew.
	Wait a minute.
	Hold on a second.
	Does it relate to this one?
	Yes, it is.
	It's Dr.
	Drew.
	Oh, hit it.
	Okay, and I think just to sort of dovetail off of that, Dr.
	Drew, jump in here with me.
	I know that you have a very strong opinion about alcohol and how that fuels the flames, but let me tell you, alcohol's been around a long time, and this is one of those stories that sort of beats the rest.
	Yes, we should all be disgusted and we should all be scared to death.
	Whenever Dr.
	Drew, by the way, was paid to sell medication and promoted on his damn television show, Celebrity Rehab, a paid shill for the pharmaceutical industry, whenever he's saying we have to be afraid of something, you've got to pay attention.
	Because here's what all of us that are parents are standing here doing is saying, not my kid.
	But the fact is we live in a world where we don't know that.
	Pornography has been raining down on these kids.
	Whoa!
	Pornography has been raining down!
	John, get the umbrella!
	It's raining porn!
	Social media is changing their ability to be empathic, and they are treating particularly women, these young men, as objects because that's what they get on the internet these days.
	And unless you actively parent against that, you could be stuck with this.
	So true.
	On top of that.
	But any measure, any measure of adverse outcome, you look at an adolescent, you find alcohol and drugs.
	Whether it's rape, STDs, unwanted pregnancies, whatever it is, you always find alcohol.
	And we have to be much more firm and intervene much more aggressively on the alcohol issue.
	You know what, the New York Times reported that this all stemmed, the genesis of this was a very big party, end of summer party, at a coach's house that had a full bar and little plastic glasses, you know, provided.
	So, I mean, certainly there was a lot of alcohol involved in a lot of this.
	I told my kids, if they go to a party where a parent is doing that, I'm going to come show up with the sheriff and have the adults hauled off and I'm going to laugh out on the lawn.
	I'm going to laugh on the lawn!
	Because they are accountable for this, ultimately.
	Listen, they...
	Okay, so I presume this is a war on the demon drink of alcohol.
	Well, yeah, that's actually not where I wanted to go with that clip of mine.
	But I think it's a good place to go.
	But I just wanted to bring one thing up there, which is the anomaly.
	I'm sorry, the anomaly.
	Oh, yeah.
	I'm never going to say it.
	Anomaly regarding Anonymous.
	Why are they in Steubenville?
	That's our headquarters.
	That must be.
	The only reason I can think of that Anonymous would show up and actually be hacking into the system to bust these guys for this, whatever the cover-up is, is that some one of the main guys, I don't know why they do this, because it's like revealing that some Anonymous heavyweights must be in Ohio.
	There's no other reason for it.
	No other reason for it.
	Yeah.
	Are you still there?
	Yeah, it sounded like you kind of dropped off the face of the earth.
	He'll come back.
	Wow.
	Connecting.
	Now, I'm still streaming.
	That was you, man.
	That was you.
	Yeah, that was totally you.
	Hello?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I found the...
	Okay.
	Oops, sorry.
	You want to continue with your...
	No, I'm just thinking, I don't know what, I mean, maybe they're playing their hand, I don't know what the deal is, but there's obviously somebody is connected to Steubenville that they would be so, this is a minor story, I mean, it's not minor to the girl, obviously, but this is not a big story, this is not an international intrigue.
	I agree, I think you're completely right, something is going on with Steubenville.
	And it sounds to me more like a pedo bear story than anything.
	When you get Dr.
	Drew in, this is his reintroduction, by the way.
	Drew has been off the map ever since he was busted on being a shill for the pharmaceutical industry and selling antidepressants in his show and receiving money for it.
	What is it?
	I think it was $300,000 or $250,000.
	We should be so lucky.
	Yeah.
	Hey, we even play the commercials and we still don't get paid.
	How dumb are we?
	We're stupid.
	We are.
	We're dumb.
	Anyway, I have the NBC clip here.
	And so, of course, you'll be able to hear Biden literally chatting up these chicks.
	You're really preoccupied with this.
	Because it's an outrage when you see this.
	But then the NBC guy's like, oh, he's charming and it's so hilarious.
	Well, he's literally sexually assaulting them.
	Check it out.
	The vice president clearly relished his chance to greet senators' families.
	And there was certainly a lot of charm being poured on by the vice president.
	Spread your legs, you're going to be frisked.
	He's saying, spread your legs, you're going to be frisked.
	He says, spread your legs.
	He says, spread your legs?
	You're going to be frisked.
	Yeah, he says this to one of the, they're standing for a photo op.
	Listen, just listen to it.
	I want you next to me.
	You're good, ma.
	He's touching him.
	I don't need any help on your pecs.
	Let me know.
	Hear this.
	He's looking at this chick.
	Holy mackerel.
	Went on like that all day.
	So this is NBC. It went like that all day, they said?
	Yes, yes.
	If you need any help on your pecs, let me know.
	Yes, there's hours of this.
	Looking at her breasts?
	No, no.
	When he's looking at the girl's breasts, he says, Holy mackerel.
	I know!
	The guy is insane drunk for both.
	Holy mackerel, he said.
	There's a beautiful young woman in a red dress, and I think she's a daughter of one of the senators.
	And he looks straight down at her boobs and goes, Holy mackerel!
	I mean, really?
	Well, that's our government.
	Meanwhile, Mickey can't get into the embassy.
	Yes, and she'd be happy to have Joe Biden look at her boobs if she can get a green card.
	I can't believe it.
	Meanwhile, we are actually...
	The fiscal cliff is actually here, John.
	Ah!
	Known as our donations for today.
	Oh yeah, we did have one.
	We got one InstaNight, which is fantastic.
	We have one InstaNight, which actually saved the day.
	Save the day.
	Otherwise it would have been horrible.
	Yeah, save the day.
	Do you have a note from this InstaNight?
	Yeah, I do actually.
	He comes in as, I think it's pronounced Xinjun, which is actually a province in China.
	And he wants to be known, it's a purely anonymous donation.
	He wants to be known as the anonymous China-er.
	And he asked us, he says, I don't get this China thing.
	I guess he hasn't been listening to the show too long.
	And I explained to him what it is.
	He says, I don't think it's an insult to the Chinese.
	I don't know where it comes from.
	And we might as well explain that it came from Rick Perry.
	We caught, you know, he was doing one of his speeches once and he couldn't pronounce China.
	He kept saying China.
	He kept saying China.
	I knew the Chiners and the Chiners this and the Chiners, so we picked it up.
	I don't know if he actually said the Chiners.
	No, he never said the Chiners, but he pronounced it China.
	I think we may have done a little bit of that, but he was, yeah.
	Yeah, we added it.
	Hey, come on!
	Jeb and Alan can do whatever they want, because we have no sponsors, no advertisers, is how the system works.
	Right, that's why we asked for these contributions, and he gave us a 1040 named after the...
	The tax form.
	The tax form.
	We want to thank him.
	Matthew, and he's in San Ramon, California.
	Matthew Farrow, Leland, North Carolina.
	He's also an associate executive producer, $203.28.
	I'd like to triple D douching as I've been called out once by my best friend's wife, Christina, and twice by my old friend, Eric Henry in Orlando.
	The donation is three times Eric's last donation of $67.76.
	I'd like to call out Lee Elliott as a douchebag.
	Spank.
	As he hit me in the mouth almost five years ago and has yet to donate even after his wife called us both out several months ago.
	Oh, no.
	Can I get some Karma for Lee and Christina?
	Christina.
	Let's see what he's got.
	It's Christina, I guess.
	Christina.
	I think maybe Christina.
	Or he might have mistyped it.
	It might have been just Christina.
	No, it's on both times.
	No, it is Christina.
	Yeah, you're right.
	Christina.
	Okay.
	That's one hot milf baby and I guess Karma, one hot milf baby, we're...
	We're just living the American dream with our eight-month-old twin, Human Resources, Eddie and Mila.
	All right, here we go.
	That's one hot milf baby.
	You've got karma.
	Yay!
	And then, let me take a quick look in the email, see if harm sent us anything.
	I don't think so.
	But then we have one other...
	Oh, you did.
	He sent us a note.
	Craig Harms came in from Wichita, Kansas for $200.
	He was the second associate executive producer.
	And he says, no karma, it's bogative.
	He wants us to follow him on Twitter, Craig Harms, at Craig Harms.
	And then he wants a drunk voice.
	Can I get a douchebag for Jeb?
	Douchebag!
	For my previous donation, I go by Craig Allen Harms.
	Not Craig Harms, as Jeb called me previously.
	Love the show or show before where John explained the moonshine documentation.
	Excellent episode.
	Literally the night after I listened to that episode, we have a bottle of moonshine in the old liquor cabinet and some white girl asked me what I was thinking.
	It was some off-brand vodka.
	And when I told her to just read the documentation, I was immediately given a dumbfounded look and as I laughed my ass off.
	I got a lot of people who really liked your quote was, you have to read your documentation, people.
	It's like whenever I open up a box of aspirin or something, I feel compelled.
	I'm like, I have to read my documentation.
	I need to read about this aspirin.
	There's a flyer in there.
	I must read it.
	You must read your documentation.
	You never know what's in there.
	Anyways, once another douchebag for the douchebag across the street from where he's building a new house or calling me and bitching about an empty cardboard box on the job site blowing into his front yard.
	Get a life, Leroy.
	Get a life.
	Leroy?
	Is that his name, Leroy?
	I don't know.
	Pipey.
	Oh, wow.
	Anyway, so that's our two associate executive producers and one executive producer for show.
	476, hopefully people will be more enthusiastic so we don't get off to a lousy start like we did last year, last January.
	And bring it up for 477.
	Go to Dvorak.org slash NA. ChannelDvorak.com slash NA. No Agenda Nation and No Agenda...
	No Agenda Nation and NoAgendaShow.com and look for the donate button if you can't find it at Dvorak.org.
	And I might as well just say, while we're at it, in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
	Well, in the morning to you, Adam Curran.
	In the morning to all ships and sea boots on the ground, feet in the air, feet in the water, subs in the water, and all the knights and dames out there who helped us all throughout 2012.
	Yes, and also thank you to all of our artists.
	Special thanks to Kevin Thomas.
	We provided the art for episode 475.
	You can always find all of our album art, a nice broad selection, at noartgenerator.com.
	We can only choose one for each particular show.
	By the way, someone, whoever, I don't know who's doing it, is now also taking the current album art and putting it on the Google Plus page, which looks kind of nice, because when you hit communities...
	Why am I even trying to explain this to you?
	I was there.
	I posted.
	Are you a member of multiple communities?
	One.
	I have multiple.
	I'm a member of the amateur radio community.
	Oh.
	Yeah.
	I thought you could only be in one.
	No, no, I'm a member of many communities.
	What?
	Well, no, I mean, I'm annoyed because now we've got like 1,700 people in the Google Plus community, and it's actually kind of heating up, but now I'm seeing how this whole Google Plus thing, it sucks.
	I just want an RSS feed of everything that people post there.
	That would be great.
	Now there's just a whole other thing I've got to look at.
	I want it all in one place.
	Could someone please just make an RSS feed of all new posts in the Google Plus community?
	Scrape it.
	I don't care.
	Whatever you have to do.
	It's just...
	What you're saying...
	Let me just deconstruct what you said.
	Yes.
	It's old-fashioned.
	It's old-fashioned and it stinks.
	That's exactly what I'm saying, John.
	Hey, even if you can't help us out financially, you can always go and do this one thing with our formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	New world border.
	Shut up, play.
	Hell yeah!
	Shut up, slave!
	I mean, it's...
	Yeah, that part of it is really old-fashioned, and actually, I was...
	This will probably be good, because people are into it.
	I can't help it.
	There's so many downsides to it, and it's just...
	But people are there.
	This is the thing that annoys me is people are using it.
	So now it's like I kind of got to go check it out.
	But the Noogen, the news network is still where all of the news, the real stories are coming through.
	You know, I just wish we could integrate the two.
	But so there was this...
	I was watching Military Times TV on the interwebs.
	And...
	It was actually, it was the guy's introduction, and then I'll play a little bit of this interview that he had with some intelligent, yeah, some consultant, which you or I could have easily done this interview, but it was the opening to this.
	I'm like, oh, I'm going to watch this interview.
	When Pentagon officials talk about intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance, known as ISR, they usually mean optical radar and electronic eavesdropping.
	But now humans are becoming unwitting sensors that the Pentagon and U.S. intelligence agencies are trying to harness in what's known as population-centric ISR. I love that.
	Unwitting sensors in population-centric ISR. I'm like, oh, I love this!
	Yeah, Twitter is actually considered one of the key elements.
	Well, let me play the interview in a second.
	Hold on.
	...and tweets sent around the world each day can be mined for valuable intel clues.
	And with the right software and technology, spy agencies can turn all that data into a powerful predictive tool.
	Aram Rothman is the editor of C4ISR Journal, a sister publication to Defense News, and is the author of the cover story, Unwitting Sensors, How DOD is Exploiting Social Media.
	Unwitting Sensors.
	So all of you on Google Plus are unwitting sensors, okay?
	Yeah, with an S, not a C. Correct.
	And here he is about how part of it works.
	The tools that the intelligence agencies are using to be able to mine all this information that's out there.
	First of all, they need to get it all.
	One of the ways they get it all is Twitter.
	Twitter sells a product to a very few companies called the Full Twitter Firehose.
	The Firehose terminology gives you an impression of how much data it is.
	400 million tweets is obviously so much data it's impossible.
	A day.
	A day.
	400 million a day.
	It's impossible for anybody to even grasp how big that is.
	A number of companies are trying to mine this and market it in ways that are specific to DOD and to the CIA and other intelligence agencies.
	You tell the CIA's venture capital firm has been interested in some of this stuff, but what are some of the companies that are developing products?
	One of the companies funded by the CIA's In-Q-Tel was a firm called Atensity out in California, and they provide powerful tools, and they're one of the customers for the full Twitter firehose.
	That's one company.
	Another one is sort of a smaller A group called Intensity.
	They market to State Department and to others.
	Again, the same type of products.
	Booz Allen is developing its product to try to say, we can do this too.
	They buy the full Twitter firehose from others, and they've applied their own software to look at it.
	And they believe they can apply it in different ways to look at all sorts of bulletin boards.
	It's not just Twitter.
	Bulletin boards.
	Social media in general.
	Social media.
	In-Q-Tel, of course, strangely enough, not mentioned in this interview, are one of the early investors in Facebook.
	And as you know, Google is, in fact, Gmail is the email client of choice for the intelligence community.
	That's their in-house email system.
	So, what is happening now is all this stuff that you love so much, you know, and oh please, you know, let's all use the centralized systems.
	Let's use Twitter.
	Let's use Google+.
	The cloud.
	The cloud.
	They're going to come in and they're going to start arresting people.
	And if you are now a member of the No Agenda Google Plus community, you are...
	You will be arrested.
	And you know why?
	Why?
	Yes, you will be.
	And you know why?
	Because right after the show, I am uploading the Terrorist Encyclopedia.
	The Terrorist Encyclopedia.
	That document, among many bomb-related materials, police say belonged to a young couple living in a high-end apartment in New York City's trendy Greenwich Village.
	The couple, 31-year-old Aaron Green and 27-year-old Morgan Gleidman, are in police custody.
	They've been charged with felony possession of an explosive with intent to use and felony criminal possession of a weapon.
	You see, how it works is you have possession of the terrorist encyclopedia, which shows you how to use these materials to create bombs, and you get arrested.
	And I'm uploading that to Google Plus right after the show.
	And I'm a moderator, so you can't kick it off.
	What?
	What?
	The terrorist encyclopedia, what bomb did they have?
	They had a bomb.
	No, they didn't.
	It's bogative, you know.
	Of course it is.
	Really?
	Really?
	It's bogative.
	Okay, I get it.
	But there's enough stuff in the kitchen under the sink.
	Yes.
	To make a bomb.
	Well, that's what the terrorist encyclopedia is.
	Yeah, and so you have the terrorist encyclopedia, A, and then you have the stuff under the sink because you have to clean your drains once in a while.
	Yeah.
	And you said, so therefore you have bomb-making equipment, and the book proves that you are going to make a bomb.
	This is bullcrap.
	Yeah, exactly.
	The terrorist encyclopedia is way cool, though.
	Is it?
	What's it got in there?
	Oh, because it's very hard to Google this, because now, of course, all you get is stories about these two schlubs.
	You can do it with a Julian date search.
	So I actually found the text.
	The Terrace Encyclopedia, version 1.02.
	I have the latest version.
	Ooh, I was hoping you'd get 1.1.2.
	A publication from the Psycho Department by Metamorphosis.
	Okay, so table of contents, chemicals, acquiring chemicals, list of useful household chemicals and availability, preparation of chemicals, nitric acid, sulfuric acid, ammonium nitrate.
	It's basically, you know, it's a cookbook.
	It's very much like the, what was the name of that book that actually was the cookbook?
	The Anarchist Cookbook, isn't that the name of it?
	I don't remember.
	Yeah.
	Don't pretend.
	Don't pretend you don't know what I'm talking about.
	I mean, these things come and go.
	I mean, I'll tell you this much.
	If people think they're going to make homemade explosives and they haven't been in the Army and they haven't learned how to handle this stuff and they haven't learned the tricks of the trade from pros, you're going to blow yourself up.
	Yeah, you could hurt yourself pretty badly.
	Yeah, you'll blow your hand off.
	I mean, there's a million things that people just have no clue.
	These books are bullcrap.
	In fact, I think a lot of these books, if I'm not mistaken, I think we must have talked about this thing before, because I'm pretty sure there was a lot of bad information in there, almost pretty much like, use this book and you'll be sorry.
	Well, can we sell this as an Amazon giblet?
	One of those 350 or what are they, 299 or whatever?
	This would be great.
	Yeah.
	Hello?
	Hello?
	No, I think it goes something like this.
	So for some reason, I opened up the terrorist cookbook on my computer and now everything's frozen.
	Yeah, there you go.
	There you have it.
	That's what it's all about.
	That terrorist cookbook, I believe, is probably a honeypot of some sort.
	Well, yeah.
	That's too dumb.
	I mean, yeah, of course.
	If you want to learn how to make explosives, go join the army.
	Right.
	Or work for a dynamite factory.
	I mean, there's no way you're going to just do it on...
	This is just way...
	It's not right to even think you can.
	I mean, what are the...
	I mean, because essentially I think what these kids had was peroxide.
	Yeah, they probably had blonde hair.
	But I think essentially it was just peroxide.
	But they had like a shotgun or something else.
	And the weird thing about these two kids is that they were rich.
	Or they came from rich...
	In fact, are you familiar with the whole...
	No, no one is immune.
	Susan Candiani is out front with their story.
	Susan is out front.
	It's not the kind of activity you'd expect in an apartment in a posh section of Manhattan.
	But when police raided the home of Aaron Green and Morgan Gleidman in Greenwich Village, they found explosive material called HMTD. HMTD, John.
	You know what HMTD is.
	No, I don't.
	Oh.
	Well, that's basically...
	Hold on.
	My system is broken.
	I think that's basically peroxide.
	And chemicals used to make it.
	I'm looking it up.
	Along with two shotguns, a flare gun, and high-capacity magazine.
	A high-capacity magazine, which is like...
	I guess that's the...
	A meme.
	That's the year-end Playboy special.
	A high-capacity magazine.
	Woo-hoo!
	The HMTD is extremely volatile, and that's why the building was evacuated and surrounding buildings.
	That's the police commissioner, Kelly, there.
	Well, we're certainly put on notice because of the ability of this to just go off at any given time.
	Hold on, hold on, hold, stop the presses.
	HMPTD, you got it?
	Hold, stop, stop the presses.
	I'm looking at a web page, which is right up there.
	If you just type in HMTD, all caps, I think it's the third or fourth hit.
	It's on the MIT.edu web server.
	Arrest these people!
	Seriously, this is not only a methodology for making it, it's from a military manual, so it's probably pretty good stuff.
	Roguescience-mirror.explosives, HMTD. And this is a step-by-step Methodology right here on the interweb sent out by Google from the MIT server on how to make this particular product.
	Excellent.
	There you go.
	I mean, we can make it.
	It does take hydrogen peroxide and something called methenamine.
	Yeah.
	Never heard of it.
	You need a magnetic stirrer.
	We're stirring right, so you need some equipment.
	There's not much to make in this stuff.
	A little citric acid.
	And then some alcohol, and then let it dry, and it doesn't store well, so you have to deal with it immediately.
	So in other words, if this is true, they would have to be blowing something up pretty soon.
	When I was, uh...
	This is bullcrap.
	Yeah, oh no, of course.
	Well, there's a little more.
	As shocking, the suspects come from successful families.
	Aaron Green's father is a successful business owner.
	Morgan Gleidman's dad is a well-known doctor who owns the building where the two lived rent-free.
	Mm-hmm.
	Gleedman's mom is a high-end realtor.
	Green's lawyer declined to comment.
	I love the word.
	High-end realtor.
	Oh, damn.
	Would it be funny?
	Hold on a second.
	Hold on a second.
	There's another thing, a little tidbit in here.
	Let me just read this, right from the document from MIT, which is on the internet.
	The lab uses blah, blah, blah.
	I hear it's in Boston somewhere.
	Yeah, it's in the area.
	3% kind of age, 10 times.
	The HMDTD, which is hexamethyl...
	hexamethylene...
	hexamethylene triperoxide diamine.
	Well, that's, you can, by the way, chemical names can be pronounced two or three different ways, but this one here.
	I always like my way better.
	Of course.
	Used here is also called hexamine and methamine and blah, blah, blah.
	It can be purchased as heating tablets.
	As to what heating tablets are, they are used in camping and in the military for heating meals or hand warmers.
	It's very unlikely you'll find this anymore so you can synthesize your own and people would do that to make this stuff for that purpose.
	Not necessarily as an explosive.
	No, just if you want to heat up your meal.
	It should be kept away from metals as it will corrode and HMTD will detonate if struck but will only burn if heated.
	So, okay, so this was a product.
	You could have had some heating tablets and then you would have had that book plus the heating tablets, you're in jail.
	This is terrible.
	Yeah, so they're putting...
	They're going to have to prove more than that on these two kids.
	Well, I think the guns, the flare gun and the high-capacity magazine.
	A flare gun?
	Big deal!
	The high-capacity magazine.
	Yeah, this is...
	Yeah.
	I got a lot from Aaron Burnett.
	I got a lot of...
	What were these two guys going to do, these two people going to do?
	There's no information on that.
	They're just picking people up.
	Who knows?
	They planted the magazine.
	I mean, I don't trust any of this stuff.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Well, let me ask you a different question then.
	Actually, what I would like to do first is let me play you a little bit...
	Of our president's little show there.
	Yeah, just ran.
	Hold on a second.
	Where's the president's show?
	Here it is.
	You know how words matter, and it just gets more annoying to me the more doublespeak is out there.
	Because words do matter.
	From your president's YouTube address.
	I congratulate the newly sworn in members of Congress.
	That Joe Biden was fondly.
	I look forward to working with the new Congress in a bipartisan way.
	If we focus on the interests of our country, above the interests of party, I'm convinced we can cut spending and raise revenue in a manner that reduces our deficit and protects the middle class.
	Now, protects the middle class.
	I'm going to ask you a question about that in a moment.
	And we can step up to meet the important business that awaits us this year.
	Creating jobs, boosting incomes.
	Now listen to how everything is a dichotomy.
	Creating jobs, boosting incomes.
	That's almost a complete dichotomy.
	Because the more jobs, the lower the incomes are going to be.
	Fixing our infrastructure and our immigration system.
	Fixing our infrastructure and our immigration system.
	Very interesting.
	Promoting our energy independence while protecting our planet.
	Promoting more oil but protect the planet.
	The harmful effects of climate change.
	Educating our children and shielding them from the horrors of gun violence.
	Now what exactly is he saying there?
	Educating our children and shielding them from the horrible effects of gun violence.
	He's not saying making sure they're not killed.
	He's saying something very specific.
	Shielding them from the horrible effects of gun violence.
	What do you...
	Play that again.
	That was the exact quote.
	Play the last part again.
	Maybe I'm misquoting.
	That would suck.
	Let me see.
	What does he say?
	Them from the horrors of gun violence.
	From the horrors.
	Shielding them from the horrors of gun violence.
	I don't know.
	It's...
	I don't know.
	It seemed a little weird to me.
	Anyway, so when he says protecting the middle class, here's a question.
	By the way, can we stop right now and I'm going to bring something up because we bring this gun thing up.
	Okay.
	Everybody's going on and on and on about, oh, the horrors of gun violence to this and to that.
	No, the Second Amendment is not that big of a deal.
	We shouldn't.
	Hey, here it's very simple.
	The Constitution is the Constitution.
	The Second Amendment can be repealed just like anything else.
	If you really have this feeling, and where is this, by the way?
	Where is the movement to repeal all these anti-gun guys?
	Tell me what website to go to.
	I have never seen it.
	The movement, the big, big movement, because the public's so upset about this, to get rid of the Second Amendment.
	It's very doable.
	You just pass an amendment, run it through the Constitution, have the states vote on it, and guns are banned.
	It's not that hard to do.
	You can do it.
	They did it with alcohol.
	They can do it with guns if they want to.
	How come this hasn't happened?
	Well, I will just point out the obvious then that even if the Second Amendment is repealed, that does not necessarily take away the right to gun ownership.
	It takes the constitutional right away.
	No, it does not.
	It removes the right to protect against the government from taking guns away.
	It doesn't say that you don't have the right.
	The only thing the Second Amendment says is the government may not infringe upon the well-armed militia.
	It's not a right to have guns.
	It's not.
	It is a protection against the government removing guns.
	Prohibit you having guns.
	You just can't have federal laws.
	But they're still pointing to the Second Amendment all the time.
	I know, because the whole thing is bogative.
	The whole Second Amendment argument is a moot point.
	That's what I'm saying.
	No one is actually taking the time to read these four lines.
	That it does not say you have the right to have guns.
	No, it says the government, the federal government may not infringe upon the right of people to bear arms.
	That's what it says.
	That's probably why they're not going after it.
	Let's make a whole bunch of other little laws.
	But it doesn't matter, because that's not what I'm interested in.
	I don't care.
	Take away the guns.
	Whatever.
	Citizens, do whatever's good for you.
	Do you really care, John?
	Are you going to, like, stand there with your gun?
	Take it away.
	I'm not standing outside holding your gun.
	Hey, you!
	Get off my lawn!
	I haven't got a lawn.
	That's the irony.
	But you got a gun?
	I would hope.
	As far as I know, everybody does.
	I love being here in Europe and saying, and people say, man, what's it like in Austin?
	I said, everybody's really polite because we're armed.
	People go, oh.
	I know that really, Europeans are just, and that's why I really disagree with this whole idea.
	Let's be more European.
	They're just, they got no, they're just, the balls have been cut off years ago.
	Yeah.
	And then they all say, but wait a minute.
	Mickey has a gun?
	Yeah.
	Sig Sauer 380 in the glove box with a laser sight.
	What should be a laser sight for?
	Well, believe me.
	Varmints.
	You pull that thing.
	That's the answer, by the way.
	Varmints.
	You get one of those red dots on your forehead, it makes an impression.
	Well, if you can see it.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, the real question is, what is exactly the middle class?
	I knew you were going to get back to that.
	Yeah, that's why you try to distract me with all this Second Amendment crap.
	Although you're totally right, of course.
	There is no movement.
	It's just a bunch of bull crap.
	But what is the middle class?
	What is the definition of the middle class?
	Who is that?
	Are we in the middle class?
	Well, I don't know.
	I don't even know we have a middle class in this country.
	Well, the President keeps saying protecting the middle class, help people get into the middle class and stay there.
	What's the class that he's apparently not in?
	I think it's the slaves.
	I think it's just the slave class.
	So the book of knowledge also doesn't really have a clear definition.
	But the best part I can bring out of it, I'd like to read to you here.
	A persistent source of confusion surrounding the term middle class derives predominantly from there being no set criteria for such a definition.
	From an economic perspective, for example, members of the middle class do not necessarily fall in the middle of a society's income distribution.
	Instead, middle class salaries tend to be determined by middle class occupations, which in turn are attained by means of middle class values.
	The middle class is essentially a macro social group embracing individuals or rather categories of individuals marked by a unique general attitude towards life.
	I like this.
	Those are people who owe everything to their own efforts, resources, qualification, education, etc.
	Self-made as they are, middle class people are furthermore self-employed.
	Where are you reading this?
	Book of Knowledge!
	Wikipedia page.
	What does it say?
	Does it say middle class?
	Yes, middle class.
	Okay, because there's a different definition in the Wikipedia.
	No, if you scroll down, there's a box, and that's what I'm reading from.
	Let me finish it.
	Their knowledge and qualification, property, and managerial skills are intentionally acquired, and so is their social status.
	In between the upper crust and the wage earners, slaves, in between the envy of the world and the pitied ones.
	I think that is the correct definition.
	The middle class is in between the envy of the world and the pitied ones.
	I pity you.
	I pity you, little varmint.
	So that I think is the real definition in between the envy of the world and the pitied ones.
	Well, what is it then?
	I think you should go to the other definition that's in the book of knowledge under American middle class.
	Read it to us.
	Members of the class belong to diverse groups which overlap each other.
	Overall, middle class persons, especially upper middle class individuals, are characterized by conceptualizing, creating, and consulting.
	Thus, college education is one of the main indicators of middle class status, largely attributed to the nature of middle class occupations.
	Middle class values tend to emphasize independence, adherence to intrinsic standards, valuing innovation, and respecting nonconformity.
	Politically more active than other demographics, college educated middle class professionals are split between the two major parties.
	Income varies near the national median to well in excess of $100,000.
	They do not always reflect class status and standard of living.
	They are largely influenced by a number of income earners and fail to recognize household size and therefore goes on.
	It talks about what they do, and they're professionals.
	It says they're a very powerful group.
	They encompass the majority of voters, writers, teachers, journalists.
	These are not independent people that are entrepreneurs, that they're a teacher or a journalist, for that matter, or editors.
	Most societal trends originate within the middle class.
	It's a completely different definition than what you have there.
	So what is the answer?
	Wait a minute.
	Because I don't have a college education, which I don't, I'm therefore lower class?
	It's one of the main indicators of middle class status.
	It is not the...
	Don't get angry with me.
	You're totally middle class by this definition.
	There's another definition, upper middle class in the United States, which is also in the Wikipedia.
	These are all written out, obviously, by different sociologists.
	But it seems to be a group of people that supposedly...
	It's supposed to be a shrinking group, but by this definition, I don't see how that can be.
	I would like the president to explain who he's protecting when he says this.
	I don't know.
	I find it to be...
	Interesting.
	It's all the middle class, the middle class.
	Get into the middle class.
	Everyone wants to get in the middle class.
	I think the way to define it or the way to figure it out is by exclusion.
	Let's define the lower class and let's define the upper class and try to figure out what's not in those two classes and that would be the middle class.
	Okay, good.
	So what do we think is upper class?
	Politicians?
	I don't think so.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Royalty?
	Royalty?
	Oh, definitely.
	Okay, royalty.
	Landed the people that have...
	How about scientists?
	The wealthy as opposed to the rich, people that inherited a lot of money.
	Okay, but wealthy starts at how much?
	Just how much money you got or how much you make?
	I would say it would be in excess of $100 million.
	Okay, that's a good measure.
	$100 million.
	So if you've got $50 million, you're upper middle class.
	Yeah.
	You want to hear Elizabeth Warren on this particular topic?
	Yeah, sure.
	Who I do not like, by the way.
	I don't know her.
	Oh, I don't like her at all.
	She is a snot.
	Yeah.
	That's an old-fashioned way of describing her, but I like it.
	Associations.
	What are your thoughts on that?
	You know, I was really disappointed by the fiscal cliff negotiations.
	Seems to me it was something that could have been resolved a month ago, not taking such a toll on our economy.
	And you mentioned middle class.
	What numbers are we talking about in terms of income level?
	It's not in numbers.
	I know you would expect a very wonky answer from me about the percentiles, but it's not.
	I would just because that would be the way you would expect that something would be written in a bill form.
	It would be people with income levels here to here.
	No, it's not.
	When we strengthen education, when we make it possible for kids to go to college, then we strengthen America's middle class.
	And that doesn't mean a dollar figure.
	The middle class is, by definition, a group of people in a certain income level.
	This is, by the way, that's very interesting.
	She said no.
	She's very much on your side, which is interesting that the snot agrees with you.
	But the reporter here is saying, oh no, this is by definition, fact, science, and income level.
	And so I don't know where she's getting that, because I don't have that information.
	But then Warren also said, if you send your kid to college, and I did not complete my college education, so I am already, strike against me here.
	But it continues for a couple more seconds.
	But you're not willing to say that they are?
	Because I actually disagree with that.
	It's one way to measure.
	You can't ask by someone who's making a million dollars in the middle class.
	Well, wait a minute.
	I'll do it the other way.
	How about somebody who's taught school for 10 years and takes off a year to go back to graduate school and has an income of only $4,000 in the year that she's not teaching?
	Would you say she fell out of the middle class?
	I wouldn't.
	So it's a whole lot of characteristics that define the middle class.
	It sounds a little like a dodge.
	No, but it's not a dodge.
	It's a question of who you're working for.
	That's the answer.
	It's who you're working for.
	That, I think, is the best answer I've heard so far.
	If you're working for the noodles guy, lower class.
	Lower class.
	So I think by definition that you and I work for ourselves, regardless of income or lack thereof, we are, even though I get to hitch a ride on your education.
	I don't think education is a function of this thing.
	I mean, Bill Gates never graduated from...
	Would you call him, like, lower class?
	I don't think so.
	I mean, the same with Steve Jobs.
	No, but he has more than the $100 million.
	Steve Jobs is dead class.
	I mean, he doesn't count.
	It's a class.
	It's a fascinating thing.
	I think whenever you see a politician talking about the middle class, just say, excuse me, could you please define the middle class?
	No one can do it.
	I don't think anyone can actually define the middle class.
	What they should do is just bring in Marx and just say it's the bourgeoisie.
	Which is essentially what Elizabeth Warren thinks, and that's why she talked about, you know, she essentially talked about the bourgeoisie being the middle class, which has nothing to do with income, and then the people that drop out, maybe the petite bourgeoisie, which is the lower middle class, because, you know, you never go into the lower classes, which is different.
	And I think it's essentially just a Marxist definition that these people are trying to push at us.
	I don't know what it means.
	I mean, it's one of those things, the way I see it, it's something I kind of know it when I see it.
	Like porn!
	I got it.
	I think when we...
	Yeah, the snot.
	It's snot class.
	I think that...
	When we talk about the elites and the middle...
	We don't talk about the middle class, but we talk about the elites, these people that have put themselves above it all.
	I think you can see it.
	You can't necessarily define it.
	It's like art.
	Not to be corny about it, but it's kind of like that.
	I know porn when I see it.
	And I can judge good porn when I see it.
	But I think that it is extremely interesting.
	This is thrown about so much.
	I like the question.
	And I just like it.
	I really, really like it.
	This is something, you know, whenever some douchebag at work is talking some douche stuff, just ask them to define the middle class and step back.
	Now, Buzzkill Jr.
	says there's a good definition in the Britannica, but I can't find it.
	I can't find it.
	He sent me a link.
	Hold on a second.
	I have it.
	Because, you know, I actually participate in the back channel here.
	Okay, middle class.
	Here we go.
	Oh, very interesting.
	Here we go.
	Association with aristocracy.
	From 1500 to the present, as feudalism gradually gave way, new classes of citizens arose.
	In England, the appearance of a powerful mercantile and business community was reflected in the growth of the middle classes, from which was continually recruited a new nobility and gentry, in turn, owing to the English rule of inheritance by primogeniture and...
	What does that mean?
	Primogeniture?
	Whatever.
	Okay, blah, blah, blah.
	Industrial Revolution.
	The nature of work shifted in the...
	Proprio...
	Property classes as well.
	This is my high school education.
	In the property class of middle class people, not only factory owners but also merchants and professionals began to trumpet a new work ethic.
	According to this ethic, work was the basic human good.
	He who worked was meritorious and should prosper.
	He who suffered did so because he did not work, stupid slave.
	I don't know if frivolity were officially frowned upon.
	Post-World War II. Right, and we still mock the middle class members, mock the Eurotrash, the trustafarians.
	These kids who got nothing but a bunch of money, and they got Rasta hair, and they hang out in Aspen, and they don't do anything but spend money, or the crazy Russians.
	So I think, just reading through this, this is a good document, by the way.
	So theatrical productions.
	Interesting if you look at all these different definitions.
	Underlying the theatrical developments of the 19th century, in many cases inspiring them, were the social upheavals that followed the French Revolution.
	Throughout Europe, the middle class took over the theaters and affected changes in repertoire, style, and decorum.
	I'm starting to think that middle class is a bunch of arrogant, elitist a-holes.
	Ha, ha, ha, ha.
	Really?
	I think we are just...
	That's all you got from here to there.
	We're lower class.
	That's pretty good.
	Take a left.
	Unless you're a mercantile, unless you're a merchant, unless you run a factory, unless you own a theater, then you're lower class.
	United Kingdom, the term middle class began to be used more frequently in social and political debate.
	So too were working class and classes.
	So if you work for a living, you're lower class.
	Well, there used to be something they could consider to be the working class.
	Many of whom...
	My father was in the working class.
	He was a foreman and an electrician, and he worked in a steel fabrication place.
	And he would always brag about the fact that he made a lot more money than the white-collar workers did.
	But wait, but wait, but wait.
	This is incorrect.
	According to the president's definition, he sent you to college.
	Therefore, he's middle class.
	Right, right.
	But he never...
	I mean, he...
	Well, that's the problem because what you're talking about with the merchants being one thing and then the workers being something else, when the working class makes more than the merchant class, I mean, this reverse situation occurs a lot in professional sports.
	You've got a guy who's playing some game and he's making $5 million or more, some of these soccer players, for example, a year, maybe $10 million.
	10 million a year.
	And none of his managers, the people that would be in the middle class or even sometimes the owners of the teams with that investment, make that much money.
	Right.
	So you have this kind of weird thing where you have the lower class making more money than a class that's higher than they are.
	Or you take a look at the...
	The British upper class, which if you talk to them or hang out with them at all, they'll tell you that the entire class in Britain, that upper class, is all broke.
	They got no money.
	They're members of clubs you can't get in.
	They get free stuff.
	They have all these things that are beneficial to them, even though they got no money.
	So it's not a money thing, apparently.
	It's something else.
	And I don't know, it reminds me, but I think it's kind of a self-induced slavery amongst...
	Yeah.
	Well, you know what?
	I have to agree, you know it when you see it, which of course is totally bogative.
	You can't just be talking about things like, oh, I know it when I'll see it.
	Maybe the post-World War II Europe definition will help us.
	The benefits for ordinary Europeans took many forms.
	There was easier access to higher education and cheaper mass travel.
	There was more varied food.
	There was better health preserved by better medicine.
	There were new synthetic materials, more plentiful housing, and wider automobile ownership.
	There were stereophonic recordings, color television, high fidelity audio equipment, unlike Skype.
	Are you back with me?
	Yeah, I'm here.
	You cut out for a second.
	So I think the middle class post-World War II Europe definition is the best.
	Basically, mass travel, synthetic materials, stereophonic recordings, color television, high fidelity audio equipment.
	I think you're nailing it.
	Yeah, this is more varied food.
	HD. If you have an HD television, you are middle class.
	There you go.
	Done.
	Done.
	The upper class wouldn't have the television to be hanging out with Spielberg.
	No, they're in the theater.
	They've got no time for any of this bull crap.
	Well, I still think there's this...
	Essentially, we've created a class of people that have turned themselves into wage slaves.
	And that is the middle class?
	Yeah.
	They're essentially slaves.
	They can't really survive without a job.
	Well, there you go.
	Which brings us, of course, to a clip that we'll play in a little while, I hope.
	The slave clip.
	I'm not playing no slave clip.
	Not yet.
	Not yet.
	When you're in the mood, play it.
	Yeah, okay.
	So what else you got?
	I guess you got that off your chest.
	Well, I think it's a very good conversation to have.
	Yeah, I agree.
	The definition is very nebulous, let's put it that way.
	We're not sitting here like CNN saying...
	It's clearly an income level.
	I'm not saying that as fact, like the idiot from CNN. Yeah, no, I agree.
	Where has this conversation actually taken place?
	Only on the No Agenda show.
	Thank you, thank you.
	Especially to this depth, this level of depth.
	Yes, which might have been a little too deep, honestly.
	No, no.
	That was interesting.
	I would have cut it off.
	I know.
	Which is what you do.
	So here we go.
	I'm watching a bunch of stuff on C-SPAN when I'm not watching the Calgary Slingbox that one of our producers so kindly gave us a look at.
	Which is, by the way, quite interesting.
	Just watching Canadian news constantly is good.
	Anyway, they had a bunch of stuff going on on a bunch of securities.
	They had a big security forum with a bunch of bullcrap artists.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Unbelievable bull crap at the security conference.
	But then also they had a little round table of journalists with people discussing, again, computer security.
	And this Hummer comes on.
	They have this one guy who's pretty interesting, but he's kind of a monotone.
	I do have a clip from him that I've never heard of this information before.
	And then another guy.
	And then this monotone woman comes on whose name...
	I put this name down.
	Anyway, she writes for Politico, so that's got to be given.
	Really?
	Hey, can I just say something about this for one moment, about Politico and all these blogs that have all these reporters that apparently are making money, they've got to be taking money from things other than advertising.
	You know what I mean?
	Don't you get that feeling?
	Don't you feel like there's just no way that these blogs can be making enough money to support all of these journalists who are all clearly in the upper middle class.
	They get to sit on panels and forums and do all this stuff.
	Don't you think that they're on the take somewhere that smells bad?
	There's something that doesn't make a lot of sense.
	I agree with you.
	But a lot of them are funded by venture capitalists and hoping to turn the company around.
	This woman is Eliza Frigman.
	And when she talks, she's very animated.
	She's like an animated Hummer.
	And tell me that she's not a classic Hummer.
	For Clifster.
	Is this Hummer of the Month?
	Is that...
	Hummer of the month.
	...correct on the Energy and Commerce Committee, is that right?
	No, he is taking over the position that Mary Bono Mack had on the Commerce, Manufacturing and Trade Subcommittee.
	And Marsha Blackburn, in terms of new leadership position, is going to be the vice chair of the full Energy and Commerce Committee.
	So it'll be interesting to see how and whether she tries to assert her authority in that new rule.
	She has actually told me that she's interested in tackling something related to piracy, but I would agree with Brandon that it's It's very unlikely.
	I mean, I think a broader, more important point of this discussion is that the ghost of the soap-up paper revolt haunts this Congress now, and all members are extremely wary of trying to enact law with technology they perhaps don't have an expertise on and don't understand all the ramifications.
	Okay, okay.
	What was her name again, please?
	I need to look something very important.
	I need to look something up.
	What's her name?
	Eliza...
	Liza Frigman.
	Liza with a Z? Yeah, Eliza.
	E-L-I-Z-A. Eliza Frigman.
	Does she have a Wikipedia entry?
	I think it's Krigman.
	It might be Krigman.
	Oh, Krigman.
	Yes, it is Krigman.
	Because she must be single.
	I think when the prodigy wrote Smack My Bitch Up, I think he had probably just met her.
	My goodness!
	I mean, can you just imagine, like, and this is the conversation about taking the trash out.
	It could have been, I don't know what the hell she just said.
	No, it's ridiculous.
	She dropped a lot of names.
	And she's kind of cute, unfortunately.
	When you see her in animation form, she's not as cute as you.
	She's not so cute anymore.
	Animation form.
	I don't see a...
	She doesn't have a Wikipedia entry.
	Yeah, she's just another political, you know, I don't know, writer.
	I have no idea what she does.
	Oh, man, oh, man.
	But anyway, that was the hummer.
	But she wasn't as bad.
	I have to give this...
	There's a couple of...
	I got a couple of clips from a guy who is...
	One of the things is...
	I think the main one here is, wow, BS. Let me set it up.
	This was a big meeting.
	And this guy is...
	Let's see if I can find his name here.
	I think it's...
	I think, yeah, this guy, Rafael Rohozinski, and he's from the SecDev Group, CEO, and he's like an expert consultant on security issues.
	Oh, brother.
	You know, these guys get one good gig.
	Like, you get a credit somewhere, and you're set for life, SecDev.
	And you want to hear...
	Now, I want you to listen to this carefully.
	I want everyone out there to listen to this carefully.
	This guy says absolutely nothing in the most convoluted way I've ever heard.
	It's a jaw dropper.
	One thing I would say, I think the enduring lesson that comes out of Stuxnet and Olympic Games is that it proved once and for all that you can weaponize cyberspace and treat it as if it was any other weapons platform.
	Meaning that there is propagator code that will deliver code which is finely targeted to affect only one certain place onto target.
	I think it's nonsense to talk about cybersecurity without thinking about it in terms of offense and defense.
	When we train our infantiers and send them on peacekeeping missions, they're not going to be moving backwards.
	They're trained in.
	Advanced to contact as well as defensive.
	We need to be thinking in terms of cyber in exactly the same kind of way.
	Because cyber weapons are largely defined in terms of legal liability, what you're talking about, who they affect, what they affect, and because code gives us the ability to actually make that quite precise.
	Again, Olympic Games, I think, proves that.
	I think it's a reality that we have to get over.
	I can't wait.
	You know, because when you weaponize cyberspace, it doesn't mean that whether you're going forward or backward.
	I mean, when you have Olympic Games or Stuxnet, there's absolutely no difference whatsoever when the sec dev goes into the battlefield, which is completely in your mind's eye.
	It's a reality we have to get over.
	Fact!
	What does that mean?
	What is a reality we have to get over?
	Fact!
	Now, he used a word in there.
	He said, infanteers.
	Oh, wow.
	I didn't hear that.
	Infanteers?
	Yeah, he said, when our infanteers go into the field.
	Now, is he talking about child labor?
	Wait a minute, wait a minute.
	Let me hear this.
	Advance to contact as well as defense.
	We need to be thinking in terms of cyber in exactly the same kind of way.
	Because cyber weapons are largely defiant...
	Was it before that?
	Must have been before that.
	No, I think...
	And how is a cyber weapon defiant?
	Hold on.
	Here it is.
	There it is.
	Let me just back it up a sec.
	Defense.
	When we train our infanteers and send them on peacekeeping missions...
	Infanteer...
	Wow.
	When we train our infanteers and send them on peacekeeping.
	What does that mean?
	Wow.
	Let's look at the book of knowledge and see if the word even exists.
	Okay, let me hit the jingle.
	Infanteers.
	Remember that?
	Wasn't there a thing?
	Infanteers!
	It's a word.
	Oh my God.
	Infanteers?
	Wow.
	It's the plural form of infanteer.
	How do you feel now?
	Here it is.
	A soldier employed in any infantry role.
	An infantryman.
	This shows you.
	The Highlanders, the Sovereign Pipers.
	No one uses this word.
	It's a UK word.
	For one thing, it's a UK usage.
	It's British English.
	People in the upper middle class use that word, John.
	And they've got a job.
	J-O-B-M-F. That's why.
	Infant here.
	This guy's not British.
	It's a UK English, it says right here.
	Okay, well, let me give you one more.
	I've got to do this one then, since you enjoyed that guy so much.
	Oh, boy.
	There's a second clip of him.
	Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
	Wasn't there a generator online where you could get all this web economy bullcrap?
	Yeah, there used to be one of those, and there was also something like, there's also a bingo game.
	What was the name of that thing?
	Hold on.
	Grow intuitive functionalities.
	There you go.
	I found one.
	Integrate visionary convergence.
	Engineer integrated web services by repurposing compelling e-business to morph visionary web services while optimizing integrated bandwidth to expedite proactive e-markets.
	That, my friend, is how you empower killer web readiness.
	Yeah.
	How good was that?
	Makes nothing but sense.
	This is...
	The best podcast in the universe.
	Here's the guy.
	He's answering a question here, by the way, and he never answers the question or even comes close.
	But this one here, it will blow your mind.
	This is the amazing BSer attribution question.
	Rafael, I'm going to push back on you just a little bit on the attribution question.
	By the way, I'm going to push back a little bit on you.
	Especially this whole thing.
	Which you don't see as that big a challenge, I guess.
	If I bought a laptop with cash and I created malware and I stripped all the identifiers out of it and I then traveled to a foreign city And I went into an internet cafe with unsecure Wi-Fi.
	And I launched my malware.
	And I then erased my disk.
	And I dumped that computer in a dumpster.
	That malware in that one computer could be enough to bring down the critical infrastructure of a city.
	Could you track me down?
	Could you find me?
	Did people pay money to go to this conference?
	I mean, seriously?
	I'd be like, boo!
	Boo!
	Get off the stage, you infantry!
	Let me answer your question by actually tying into something that the General was talking about.
	Here we go.
	I think we forget that times of conflict are generally a great catalyst for technological and organizational advancement.
	We saw the emergence of the concepts of air-land battle, for example, coming out of World War I, developing through World War II, through the Cold War era.
	We have Teflon as a consequence of the Space Age.
	Yes, so was Tang!
	I think the main innovation coming out of the last ten years of the global war on terror has been a revolution in the way that we apply intelligence and warfare.
	Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, currently the head of the DIA, but previously director for intelligence with JSOC in Afghanistan and Iraq, said, and I think quite presciently, In the 21st century, in the cyber era, intelligence and information are maneuver and fire.
	The ability to be able to generate data from vast distributed services, to aggregate it, to correlate it, to share it effectively, to create actionable items, is a huge advancement, which was responsible for, for example, the ability to interdict IED networks in Iraq before they were able to form.
	Okay, I'm going to shoot myself now.
	The ability to interdict IED networks in Iraq?
	Seriously, dude?
	Okay.
	That same kind of cross-disciplinary, polymorphic analysis made possible by the fusion of data and analytical systems is exactly what would solve the problem of attribution.
	I'm sorry, because when you re-intermediate open source portals, you're engineering intuitive platforms that maximize impactful models and strategize cross-media eyeballs.
	In no way can you exploit cross-platform interfaces by integrating sticky schemas that evolve one-to-one infrastructures.
	It has to be a central point of streamlining one-to-one systems where you aggregate intuitive infrastructures.
	Perfect!
	Thank you!
	You and this guy should...
	What website is that?
	What do you mean website?
	That's just me, man.
	That's just me being awesome.
	Well, you are awesome.
	What website is that?
	Wow.
	So this woman that's headlining...
	No, no, no.
	Don't make me listen to more.
	No more of that guy.
	Okay, please.
	This one here is actually something I want to comment on.
	By the way, just to give you a feel, a sense of this, since the Canadians want us to do so much more with their Canadian stuff, this is the Halifax International Security Forum, so that kind of gives you a...
	Right.
	Kind of a feeling for the international nature of this event with this bullcrapper and this woman.
	But she makes an interesting question.
	The cyber attack on the grid thing that she brings up, I just want to deconstruct it.
	It's a question she asks, like that other dumb question about the computer that's thrown in the dumper.
	With my malware.
	With your malware.
	How's your malware doing?
	It's in my pants still.
	I haven't pulled out my malware.
	By the way, this woman is Jean Mio something or other.
	She's some company I've never heard of.
	Anyway, by the way, she looks, you know, there's a certain look of women that are...
	What's her name?
	Give me her name properly now.
	Now I've got to look at her!
	Jean, G-E-A-N-N-E, I think it's M-E-O-R-E-I-P or something like that.
	Morioip?
	Mario or something.
	I don't know.
	That's what I wrote it down.
	MeServe.
	Look for the company MeServe.
	You'll find it.
	MeServe?
	Yeah, MeServe.
	M-E-S-E-R-V-E? Yeah.
	MeServe?
	Yeah, I think she's at George Washington University.
	MeServe, Mumper, and Hughes?
	No, I don't know what to know.
	She's at George Washington University.
	And when you look at her, spook.
	Yeah, thanks.
	Well, thanks.
	So I have nothing to look at.
	Thanks.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	I do the best I can.
	Helpful, helpful.
	Okay.
	So this is the kind of bogative question that you're going to, that has, here's what bothers me.
	You hear these things and you have someone who's the narrator, the person at the podium that's asking questions.
	And within the question itself, there is like bad information, false information, false assumptions.
	And it's all thrown in as fact as part of a question.
	I think it's a very subtle form of brainwashing.
	And see if you can find a few items on here that as she says them, they're just not possibly true.
	I want to have a little fun here and lay out a scenario and see how our panelists would deal with this.
	Let's say there are coordinated cyber attacks on Canada's power grid.
	Hold on, I'm viperventilating.
	Man, we have such a future in the conference business, I'm telling you.
	Can you imagine if we dressed up and we had our suits on and everything, and we talked like I was just talking a minute ago, and we just threw this stuff out there?
	Blow their minds.
	Oh my god.
	And we have Uncle Don just do an appearance.
	Keynote.
	Keynote by Donald Gregg.
	Awesome.
	Generators are destroyed.
	The grid comes down.
	Timber!
	The grid's coming down!
	People do not have gas.
	People cannot use their ATM machines.
	The power loss has spread to the United States because of the way the grid is constructed.
	Transportation comes largely to a halt.
	Financial institutions are unable to do what they do.
	You've got a big problem on your hand.
	Minister Taves, let me ask you.
	Who's to blame for this attack?
	People have been warning about the vulnerability of the grid for almost a decade.
	It's the Republicans, of course.
	Obviously.
	A couple of things in there.
	There's a bunch of stuff in there.
	People should re-listen to this.
	But for some reason, I guess the gas...
	Lines and the power lines are somehow interconnected.
	Wait a minute, this is my favorite one.
	Transportation will come largely to a halt.
	What?
	How?
	Listen, all I know about whatever she just said, I cannot wait for the day.
	Because I'll be like...
	Hey!
	Ham Radio, baby!
	We are rocking it!
	And then you'll be like...
	We'll be on the CW, baby, on the USB and the SSB. Anyway, that's my little thing.
	I just thought it was...
	I was just...
	I ended up watching this piece of crap.
	No, no, no.
	I applaud you for it because that actually made me feel really, really happy.
	That I know that, you know, when all donations come to a screeching halt eventually, or one of us dies, and if it's not me, then I know I still have a future.
	As a cyber on the CW? Exactly.
	I'm going to show myself the world by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fun.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	On the SecDevCW.
	Yeah.
	Hey man, do we want to play that clip before we do our short list here?
	The slave thing?
	Yeah, we got a short list.
	I thought this was an interesting clip.
	This was a, again, this was on Book TV, which is a C-SPAN product.
	And the guy wrote about the race.
	And by the way, it's not an outstanding product like our show.
	Nine times out of ten, Book TV is atrocious.
	Oh no, 99% of this thing is incredibly boring.
	Atrocious, yeah.
	We watch it.
	Yeah, you're right.
	What am I thinking?
	Anyway, so this was a little segment on the race rise of, I think, 1834 and how Francis Scott Key apparently was this horrible racist.
	You mean the guy who wrote Star Spangled Banner?
	Apparently, yeah.
	Really?
	He was a racist?
	Oh, the worst, apparently.
	And this was a show?
	On television?
	Yeah.
	Great.
	Oh, man.
	So anyway, so this guy's giving a lecture about his book, and he has this one anecdote, and I said to myself, holy crap, things really haven't changed that much.
	In fact, a lot of, you know, since we refer to a lot of our listeners as slaves, I'm thinking, wow, this is interesting, because this guy in Washington to see this slave would probably be a no-agenda listener.
	If you were a black person in Virginia and you got your freedom, you had to leave the state within a year by law, or you could be sold back into slavery.
	And so those people, once they got there, they weren't going to go to Boston or New York, even though there was no slavery in those places.
	But first of all, Philadelphia was a four or five day ride at best.
	And then it's an alien culture.
	It's not a southern culture.
	So the blacks, once they got their freedom, they went to the district.
	And they flocked to the district.
	And there were jobs there.
	There was opportunity there.
	Slavery was legal there.
	But the system of slavery in Washington, again, this was a big surprise to me.
	This was not plantation slavery.
	Mrs.
	Thornton had a guy, a servant, who she owned, a man named George Plant, and he was her driver, and he was kind of the jack-of-all-trades who kept the house up and fixed the wagons and did all of that.
	Well, George Plant had a wife who was free, and she lived in Georgetown, and he had four kids, and they were free.
	And he would go home at night.
	And then in the morning, he'd go...
	So he was a slave who commuted...
	In the morning.
	In the morning to you.
	A slave who commuted.
	Yeah, exactly.
	This is...
	What's changed?
	Nothing.
	Absolutely nothing.
	Oh, wow.
	Wow.
	Good one.
	Good one.
	Anyway, so let's thank a few people who helped us out on this show, which is starting with Dr.
	Neninger.
	Sir Natural, as he likes to be called.
	From Port Jefferson, New York.
	$133.32.
	Credit, Sir Natural, getting the year started right by thanking you both for the laughs only you two can provide.
	You are not going to hear about the Noodle Boy driving his Google car anywhere else.
	Yeah, thank you.
	Leo actually inspired me to donate by his recent interview with a New World Order guy, author of Rationally Irrational.
	Thank you, Leo.
	Yeah, thanks, Leo.
	Telling Leo how the Greeks need to be re-educated and how we need to be nudged to change our carbon behavior.
	I'm thinking to myself, actually, fuming.
	The Greeks have the highest per capita production.
	And, you know, anyway, it goes on.
	Realize this is all thanks to my no agendication, 99 plus 99 plus 33, 99 plus 33, 33 on my new lapel pin.
	Oh, I almost forgot.
	Italian niece, shut up, slave, and karma, please.
	We're going to have trouble with keeping track.
	Shut up, slave!
	You've got karma.
	Yeah, we're going to have a lot of trouble tracking this.
	Yeah, because I would just mention this to people who help us do the show with these contributions.
	Send the 33 in separately so we can pull it out easier because it's going to be hard to go back and figure out somebody put this much and that much and then add a 33 to it.
	It'd be better.
	Just for our own use.
	And then put a little note in there.
	For our staff.
	For our staff of none.
	Ocean Dreams, Rocky Mountain...
	Look at this.
	My Rocky Mountain Dave in Loveland, Colorado.
	Uh-oh.
	69!
	69, dudes!
	He needs a de-douching because he hasn't donated in a while.
	And he needs a two delicious Don't Eat Me Hillary one hot milf karma.
	I know it's four, but I couldn't resist the lineup.
	On a producer note, I'd like to remind all the donors out there that when they donate to the best podcast in the universe, they get a double credit for every dollar.
	Not only the initial credit, but also build up to knighthood.
	ITM. So what did he want?
	Not de-douching Don't Eat Me?
	Yeah.
	What is it?
	Eat me?
	Hot milf.
	Oh, and a baby milf.
	That makes it a little more complicated.
	Okay.
	You've been de-douched.
	Eat me, Hillary Clinton!
	It's almost too delicious to believe, my friend.
	You've got karma.
	That's one hot milf, baby.
	And then without comment, Kevin Grant in Vancouver, British Columbia, 6969, and Christoph Eilers in...
	Eilers may have since.
	I couldn't find a note from Grant.
	Hey, he's from Amstelfen, Eilestade.
	Yeah, he isn't.
	Eilestade is where all the...
	He's probably a student.
	That's where the students live, in Eilestade.
	He sent us a note before, but he didn't send us one for this particular donation, 6969.
	I will read his old note, though, just because I know you'll get a kick out of it.
	Okay.
	He likes a karma which would be Atlas Shrugged Tutor the Head karma.
	Is that the whole note?
	No, it says kudos to the best podcast in the universe.
	There's no other which is almost exactly similar.
	I'll start working for a big oil company soon and definitely need a karma shot.
	Shout out to Arian de Jongsta as a douchebag.
	He may have been douchebag, but he gets another one then.
	No, he's got two of them now.
	And then he needs the...
	Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand.
	You've got karma.
	Kyle Bauer in Worcester, Ohio, 6969.
	Hey, citizens.
	Hey, citizens.
	Just keeping the streak going along and working toward knighthood and looking for karma and ITM. I'm also participating in the emergency backup recordings from the high and low-fi streams now twice a week if for some reason they are needed to contact me for hourly dumps.
	You're taking a dump every hour, you've got a problem.
	Thanks for the hours of excellent information and commentaries.
	Swazzle Nuff stays around till Thursday.
	And here's your karma shot.
	You've got karma.
	Thanks for keeping the streak alive, Kyle, and thank you for the emergency backup recordings.
	We've been lucky so far.
	Knock on wood.
	Ikea.
	It may not be wood.
	It might not be.
	It's probably not wood.
	Perfectly entertaining, also known as Tim English in San Diego, in Chula Vista, California.
	He calls San Diego the Saskatoon of the American Nuts, the U.S. of American Nuts.
	Atlas Shrugged is easily the worst book I've ever read.
	Very good.
	You know what?
	Eric gave me a copy, a big, giant copy of Atlas Shrugged for Christmas.
	Good job, Shil!
	Yeah.
	Was this like a joke gift?
	Was it covered in molasses?
	I don't know why he did it.
	Because he loves you.
	I think as retribution for John having to put up with that damn Atlas Shrug jingle, John should be allowed to use a clip that will bug Adam.
	Obvious choice?
	Honey Boo Boo.
	She has many cute catchphrases like, a dollar makes me holla.
	In fact, that would be a great opener for the donation segment.
	And then he has a link to the clip.
	Well, how come he didn't prep me on that?
	I'd be happy to go find that.
	Hold on a second.
	Keep reading, I'll get the clip.
	Anyways, assuming it downloads okay, I would like the show's first Honey Boo Boo Karma.
	So you can play that and give them a karma.
	Well, hold on a second.
	Yeah, well, let me just...
	I mean, this is bad preparation.
	I mean, does Buzzkill download?
	No, here's the deal.
	We have to do this very late, just before the show begins.
	So anything that's in this segment is not going to really be overly prepared unless it gets caught like during the process of the donations.
	Very unlikely.
	A dollar makes me holla honey boo boo.
	You've got karma.
	God.
	Even I don't like that.
	No, I love it.
	I love it.
	Let me just hear that one again.
	It's really, really, really bad.
	Oh my god.
	So this is a little kid, right?
	Yeah.
	This is a little kid who says, Adala makes me holla.
	Does anyone see how wrong this actually is?
	Adala makes me holla, honey boo boo.
	Wow.
	Sick pedo crap, man.
	The whole thing is bad.
	Yeah, all right.
	Ulrich Hansen in some play.
	Copenhagen?
	Is that right?
	I think so.
	Looks like a...
	Yeah, greetings from Copenhagen soaked nuts.
	Here's some swazzle nuff cash instead of water and blankets.
	Please remember to use the Balanced News Diet promo jingle more often.
	It rocks.
	Oh, wow.
	What was the Balanced...
	He's confused me now.
	Was that the...
	Yeah, it's the balanced news diet.
	Listen to no agenda.
	It's a balanced news diet, something like that.
	I think it was...
	Hold on a second.
	News diet?
	See?
	No, it's a part of a healthy diet, I think, is what it is.
	A healthy diet.
	Yes, okay.
	We got it here for a second.
	Hold on.
	All right, I got it for you.
	If you wake up with the blues, trying to put your day with news, there's one thing you must remember.
	For a healthy, balanced news diet, try NoAgendaShow.com.
	69!
	69!
	Done!
	And that closes the 69-69 donation segment.
	It sure does.
	Gerald Gionette.
	Sir Gerald to you in London, Ontario.
	6666.
	Here's my 66.
	It's covered at 3333 for shipping and handling on the ring and 3333 for shipping and handling on the pin.
	I want to thank the show for the karma shot.
	I request for my daughter, Amber, who's been looking for work for a year and was running out of option.
	You played the karma jingle on the 16th of December and what do you know, three days after the show, she got a call that she had been offered a position.
	Shocked!
	Shocked, I tell you, my family was, when I played them the podcast and they realized that the job could have only come from my karma request.
	Thanks for all the great content and opening everyone's mind to all options.
	Wow, I am humbled.
	That's good.
	Yes, that's great.
	It's fantastic.
	I love that.
	Well, I'm very happy for her.
	She got a gig.
	That's fantastic.
	Great.
	But he needs a job.
	Kevin Ayers in Broomfield, Colorado.
	Double fives on the sticks.
	Oh, fuck.
	Is that it?
	Oh, no, I'm sorry.
	My back just went out.
	Oh, jeez.
	It did?
	Yeah, I'm in this Ikea chair.
	It's spasming.
	Oh, wow.
	Okay, keep going.
	Keep going.
	Take aspirin.
	Go get Mickey to give you some aspirin immediately.
	She's not here.
	She's not here.
	I can't get...
	There's nowhere I can go.
	Maybe I can reach the Jameson bottle.
	Let me see if I can read it.
	Hold on, I can get it.
	I'll read this while he's running.
	I got it.
	I got it.
	Hello, John and Adam.
	Thank you for your podcast.
	I got the bottle.
	Here we go.
	Oh, yeah.
	Good.
	Okay.
	Bye.
	Let's go.
	It's the best in the universe.
	So here's my first 2013 donation in my name.
	Last name I donated.
	I used my mother's PayPal account.
	And when she heard her name being said on the show, she got scared the government would put her in some terrorist list.
	Get her to join Google Plus and then guaranteed.
	Well, I would like to wish John, Adam, and everybody who's donated karma.
	We need to keep this show going.
	And a little ditty on the slide whistle for me.
	Okay.
	You've got karma.
	Okay.
	Let me go down.
	Benjamin Oliver in Market Drayton Shropshire in Birmingham, UK. Shropshire.
	Hey, Barak and Joe.
	I've been a listener for about two months now and figured my time has come to pitch in.
	Airport security broke my tablet.
	Oh, no.
	I'm giving some cash towards a new one.
	I thought I'd give you a slice.
	I got back from Amsterdam an hour ago.
	Long airport connection, so I went into town.
	I only have sympathy for you, Adam.
	It's gray and miserable and damp.
	And as much as I love the city, I just wanted to go home.
	And he's going to England.
	Yeah.
	See what I mean?
	This is my point exactly.
	It's worse here.
	On that plane back, the sky above the clouds was Hollywood-esque.
	A million different colors as the sun came down.
	I felt bad that you were stuck down there, so I hope this helps ease the pain.
	51-52.
	Can I get some karma?
	Spanish ITM, please.
	I'm directing a TV pilot.
	I need some acting credits here.
	I'm directing a TV pilot at the end of the month, and I have no bloody idea what I'm doing.
	Ha ha!
	Well, so what?
	You fit right in.
	You'll be perfect.
	You're right there.
	I think at some point I say fuck and action.
	So far that's all I've got.
	Anyway, the pay is crap, so I can't donate often, but I smack a lot of mouths.
	Not difficult when so much of what you say is spot on.
	Backpot and buzz kill my arse.
	This is the least bull crappy news show around.
	Adios.
	Hey, Ben.
	First of all, send me an email if you ever come to Amsterdam again because I can hook you up with the free no-agenda Wi-Fi that is throughout the entire airport.
	We have our secret access point.
	Well, it's not just one point.
	The entire airport is no-agenda wired to one of our sysadmin producers, but I can only give you the information privately, if you will, kind of privately if you email me.
	And secondly, thank you so much.
	Here is your requested karma.
	You've got karma.
	Awesome.
	Borislav Marinov.
	Hey, hey, hey, sir.
	Sir Borislav to you.
	Sir Borislav to you.
	Aliso Viejo, 50 bucks.
	Please send some karma tonight, yassin'.
	For a surgery next Thursday.
	By the way, this Friday, for the first time in three months, the naked scanners were on.
	I asked for a female assistant, and they all laughed at me.
	And sent a male one.
	He said he claimed that he does not like touching other men, but this is his job.
	Please send him some job karma.
	Maybe we can get a better job.
	You've got karma.
	Hey, maybe we could, Sir Beres Marinoff, we should hook him up with Ben from Birmingham.
	You know, maybe they'd make a great TV show.
	He's a good writer.
	It's funny.
	Ben and Boris.
	It's the Ben and Boris show.
	Everybody, how you doing?
	In the morning.
	Ben and Boris in the morning.
	Von Klitschka in Salem, Oregon.
	$50.
	I started a website called 5minutelogo.com and every month I'll take $50 of what I make and donate it to your show.
	That's five with the number five minute logo, all one word.
	No karma necessary.
	Can I just get Jeb to say in his wonderful cranky way, that's not a good logo?
	I think you should give him a couple variations just in case.
	That's not a good logo!
	That's not a cranky voice.
	Do it like this is not a great question.
	That's not a good logo!
	Nailed it.
	Perfect.
	Mac Harbor, LLC, is our last donor for today.
	In Sheboygan, Michigan, $50.
	And that will conclude our donation segment for this show, 476.
	We'd like to get everyone encouraged to donate a little more for the next Thursday show.
	Go to Dvorak.org slash NA. Yeah, really critical because this, you know, we're at the beginning of the new year.
	We know the new year is always very, very slow.
	I will tell you, you don't have to feel sorry for me, but, you know, screw it.
	Feel sorry for me.
	This whole thing, this being stuck here, has cost Ms.
	Mickey and I $15,000.
	She will be driving in the Range Rover for another year, for sure.
	That was like the, I was saving up for a car.
	Gone.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Anyway, you don't have to feel sorry for me.
	Whatever.
	It's fine.
	I just feel sorry for you.
	I mean, I like Amsterdam as much as the next guy, but when I go over there, I'm there for four days max.
	You know, you get a bunch of stuff done.
	You look around.
	You take a lot of photos.
	It's a very photogenic place.
	And then you hit one museum or two.
	I mean, there's always a museum to check out.
	And then you leave or have a good dinner somewhere.
	There's a couple of good places.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Right.
	Well, people have written to me many times over and said that they feel that the in-exile-ness has improved the show, which worries me to a high level.
	Stay there!
	It really bothers me.
	No, I think it's true.
	What happens, I think every time we have something like this, the show just gets a little more international.
	I think people like your anecdotes.
	I think they like them when you talk about the farmer's market in Austin and some of these crazy people you've run into.
	I think that we start to show off with a lot of personal anecdotes, and I think you tell a great tale.
	And your stories about Amsterdam are always kind of like, wow, what?
	Right.
	Which is always what you want people to think when they go, what?
	What?
	And in fact, there are tens of people around going, what?
	So when I get back to Austin, I have to continue my personal anecdotes, but then I have to get into trouble.
	I have to, like...
	I don't think that's necessary.
	Just get out of the house more.
	That's, I think, what people are appreciating.
	I love the Dutch contingent in the chat room.
	Hey, leave the Netherlands alone if you can't handle it.
	Get out!
	The one guy?
	No, we get a couple.
	We get a couple.
	Adam is still at his millionaire spending level.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, right.
	Yeah.
	Hey, Spree, blow me.
	My goodness.
	Alright, whatever.
	You know what?
	Fine.
	Best podcast in the universe.
	Go ahead and bitch at me all you want.
	It's fine.
	Top it.
	Don't top me.
	Please don't top me, Hillary Clinton.
	Anyway, if you want to support the best podcast in the universe, then you certainly can do that at...
	So we do not have any birthdays today, interestingly enough.
	Yeah.
	Oh, hold on a second.
	Let me see whose birthday it is on Facebook.
	I think we have a bunch of...
	Doesn't Facebook tell me whose birthday...
	Yeah, we do.
	Randy Roberts' birthday is today.
	Remember Randy Roberts?
	No.
	He was Randy Roberts.
	Maybe this is a different Randy Roberts.
	Wasn't he like the crazy guy on MTV? Whoa!
	You alright?
	Yeah, I'm going to sneeze again.
	Randy Roberts.
	No, I don't know who Randy Roberts is.
	Maybe he's a producer.
	Randy Roberts.
	I don't know who he is.
	It doesn't matter.
	Or Roberts.
	Whatever.
	Whatever.
	Yes, we do have...
	Actually, we have...
	So we're going to do Anonymous China instead of Xinjiang, right?
	Because that's not his real name.
	But it's going to be Anonymous China.
	Ben Blondin, who I think he...
	We had this conversation on Thursday...
	That his accounting was off, but we had not calculated the 120 cash he had given on the Hot Pockets Tour.
	So he is receiving his well-deserved knighthood as of today.
	And we have a special knighting, one of the two, if you'll recall, knighthoods that were completely financed by the Baron of Belgium and France, Baron Stephen Pelsmacher's.
	Yeah.
	Whereas we like to call them Baron Von Pelsmachers.
	He gave away three, so we're giving her two.
	Didn't we already do one?
	I thought we already depleted one.
	I don't know that we did.
	Okay, well...
	I think there's...
	I think you're still owe him one.
	Okay, so this is at least one of the three that Baron gave away.
	And we're giving that to someone who has worked very, very hard, particularly in 2012, worked his ass off.
	And even today...
	Was kicking ass on the stream.
	We had a power cut at the data center, which he manages all by himself.
	Void Zero will become...
	I was thinking of...
	We'll call him the 19-inch Knight.
	I thought that'd be kind of cool, since he has 19-inch racks all the time.
	He's 19-inch what?
	Oh, racks.
	Racks, yeah.
	Yeah, those are the professional size racks.
	Correct.
	I thought you meant something else.
	Well, that's exactly why I came up with it.
	If you can get your sword, then we'll see.
	All right, Void Zero, Anonymous Charter, and Ben Blondin, please come forward as I hereby am very proud to pronounce the Knights of the Noah General Roundtable, and you will hereby be Void Zero, the 19-inch knight.
	The Anonymous Chiner!
	Sir, that is, and Sir Ben Blondin.
	Come on down, gents.
	All of you are now welcome at the round table of the No Agenda Nights.
	Hookers and blow, real boys and chardonnay, hot pants and booze, wenches and beer, Reuben S, woman and rosé, geishas and sake, vodka and vanilla, bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, and mutton and mead for you!
	And you'll be receiving one of those handsome, handsome night pins, which, um...
	Are they really handsome?
	Have we designed them yet?
	Oh, that's a good point.
	What I'd like to do is I'd like to throw out an open RFP. An RFP? An RFP. Hold on a second.
	We'd like to recontextualize the holistic action items of our RFP to aggregate robust networks into our real-time paradigms.
	So, we have a lot of artists and they listen to the show and they're looking for little gimmicks.
	To look around, and we'll pick one.
	If somebody wants to design this thing, we want to design a knight pin.
	And look at the Canadian ones.
	Look at other pins.
	The high-end pins, the ones that, like the Canadians, when they give their knights, they put a ribbon around it.
	They also give them this pin, and they get to wear the pin.
	And the pin is like, you can see other people.
	You're going to have to wear the pin all the time, by the way.
	We'll wear pins if you've got a jacket.
	And so you wear the pin, and you can find other knights out of the blue.
	Oh, my goodness, you're like a knight.
	No agenda.
	Oh my goodness.
	Hey, are you a knight of the round table?
	And so we'll, well, we need the design.
	So we're opening up the bidding for designs.
	Anyone who wants to contribute an idea, design, any such thing.
	The logo guy, for example, that makes the logos.
	He might come up with the five-minute logo guy.
	Make a ten-minute pin logo.
	I don't know.
	Whatever.
	Anyway, I just wanted to say that.
	So it'll be a few months before anybody gets a pin because we have no design.
	But we'll get it.
	It took two years before we sent out the first ring.
	Well, okay.
	But now we're ahead of the game.
	We're ahead of our typical schedule.
	Yeah, right.
	We would have kept forgetting to ask for the designs for probably six months.
	And to support the program one more time...
	Hey, wow, yo, dude.
	So something came across my desk, which is rounded from Ikea.
	And I was trying to figure it out, why all of a sudden this?
	And then I started to combine a couple things, including a...
	An amendment to an executive order, which I didn't even know was possible, but apparently it is.
	Oh, that's interesting.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Well, we have producer Chad in Colorado, and he's like a federal register nut.
	Yeah, and he's great.
	Actually, he's an EMT. He saves lives.
	But he should be a writer.
	Because he's the one that sent us the...
	Remember the toilet roll story?
	Yeah, great story.
	The guy is funny.
	And he writes emails that just kill me.
	So he should be a writer.
	But okay, instead he wants to parse the Federal Register.
	So he works with me.
	Which is also funny.
	Everyone's got their own hobby.
	But first, let me give you the story.
	The full-on public service announcement from the Navy is in the show notes, 476.nashownotes.com.
	But here is the Aaron Burnett story where this was out front, and it's just filled with memes.
	And as I was listening to this, and I kind of figured out what's going on, because I think it's promotion, essentially.
	And it is all under the heading, The War on Bath Salts.
	And now we go to the demonic dangers of...
	Sorry.
	Demonic dangers!
	Demonic dangers!
	This is a news program.
	The demonic dangers of bath salts!
	Bath salts.
	A horrible story here because there's a dramatic public service announcement by the American Navy warning about the dangers of this designer drug.
	And by the way, this public service announcement is awesome.
	I mean, the special effects are really quite good.
	But then wait for the Navy official to come in at the end.
	I just have a little bit of all of this.
	And you'll hear that there's an obvious there was something being set up, and I think Chad found it.
	The hope is that sailors will be deterred from turning to bath salts to get high.
	Our Pentagon correspondent Chris Lawrence is out front.
	It's a shocking video in which an actor plays an American sailor high on bath salts.
	He sees other sailors as demons, punches his girlfriend.
	It gets wheeled into the ER, pinned down by paramedics.
	Bath salts not only will jack up your family.
	This is the guy from the Navy, John.
	Bath salts will not only jack up your family, they'll jack you up, man.
	This is like an official from the Navy speaking.
	Jack up.
	In your career, they'll jack up your mind and your body, too.
	Who in the Navy approved this?
	It'll jack up your career, man!
	The Navy is increasing efforts to warn sailors after military doctors started seeing more cases.
	These bath salts don't have anything to do with therapy or the salts you use at home.
	What we're talking about here are very potent synthetic drugs that are probably synthesized somewhere overseas.
	We think possibly China.
	Dr.
	Alex Garrard has seen dozens of cases firsthand.
	People act very primal, primal instincts, animalistic behavior.
	He's seen users who think they have superhuman strength and are almost impossible to subdue.
	Son, Molly was high on bath salts.
	Okay, so a little bad edit there, but now listen very carefully to what they're saying at the end of this report.
	The Naval Academy kicked out 16 midshipmen for using another synthetic drug, SPICE. The military started random testing for synthetics last year, but it's hard to keep up with the science.
	But all the drug dealers, the chemists have to do is manipulate the molecule ever so slightly.
	You have a new drug, a new chemical that kind of flies under the radar.
	In fact, since the U.S. government banned the two main chemicals that were used in bath salts, another chemical called naferone started showing up, and it's ten times as potent as cocaine.
	Now, this, of course, is obviously a commercial for the new stuff.
	Yeah, no, this is totally what it is.
	Naferone is what it's called.
	Naferone, there is a book of knowledge entry, but what's interesting is...
	On Friday, just before this report, and this video obviously was made a long time ago, and it was rushed out.
	No one actually took the time.
	I mean, you can't have a guy say, hey, man, you get jacked up.
	That's not how the Navy operates.
	And on Friday, I read from the Federal Register, as trapped by Chad, It's an addendum.
	On July 9, 2012, the President signed into law the Synthetic Drug Abuse Prevention Act of 2012.
	SDAPA amends the Controlled Substances Act by placing 26 substances in Schedule 1.
	So, what is happening here is the President had the Synthetic Drug Abuse Prevention Act of 2012, and now it's being amended with 26 new substances.
	And as a part of this amendment, it has the Schedule I classification of Mephedrone, MDPV, and...
	Hello, darling.
	And then some synthetic cannabinoids.
	So I believe...
	I believe...
	Oh, and there's one more.
	Methylone.
	But I believe that this came out, these new drugs have been, or these substances have been classified as Schedule I drugs, so equal to heroin, and that's why they, I guess, have to now promote the new thing, which has just been released, because now MDPV is a Schedule I, it's equal to heroin.
	And now they're out there immediately with this really shoddy thing.
	Can I have the tea back, honey?
	I was still drinking that.
	Promoting the, don't empty that, that has whiskey in it.
	For my back.
	For his back.
	For my...
	What, honey?
	Yeah, it's exactly where I had it, yeah.
	So Navadrone is clearly...
	They're promoting this, and it's ten times...
	Yeah, we gotta get the...
	Yeah, give...
	This is an alert.
	Mm-hmm.
	Ladies and gentlemen, we have a drug alert.
	All the drugs have been illegal.
	We have a new drug.
	New drug.
	That is legal for now.
	Yeah.
	The timing is unbelievable.
	Yeah, I agree.
	No, it's totally it.
	And by the way, the bull crap about China, you just drop that little moment.
	July 26, 2012, DEA raid synthetic pot and bath salts manufacturers and sellers, and this was done in 90 cities.
	They're making this stuff in the U.S. of A. Of course.
	There's nothing coming in from China.
	China.
	Chiners, please.
	Please.
	Please.
	And then we have the new segment, John, bogative bills.
	These are new bills introduced into legislation or into the legislative process, and I just want to run them down for you.
	I just make a little selection of ones that I think would be interesting, not to discuss, but just to understand what your U.S. government is doing.
	We have H.R. 77.
	We start over by it.
	Did you know that each year they start with the numbers are all new?
	Yeah, yeah.
	I didn't know that.
	Okay.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Well, otherwise it'd be in the millions the way they're going.
	Okay.
	H.R. 77.
	To repeal the legal tender laws to prohibit taxation on certain coins and bullion and to repeal superfluous sections related to coinage.
	So that's some gold nut, obviously, trying to do a Ron Paul on the gold coins.
	So that'll go nowhere.
	H.R. 74.
	To provide for the collection of data on traffic stops.
	Ha, ha, ha.
	Which will be DNA, obviously.
	H.R. 125 to provide for congressional oversight of United States agreements with the government of Afghanistan.
	I thought that was interesting.
	Do we not have congressional oversight with the agreements with the government of Afghanistan?
	I didn't know any of this.
	No, I mean, apparently not.
	I thought the Obama administration was the most transparent in the universe.
	But apparently we don't have oversight.
	H.R. 118.
	To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to encourage teachers to pursue teaching science, technology, engineering, and math subjects at elementary and secondary schools.
	There's no text available of that one, which I find unfortunate, because I'd like to know how they're going.
	What are they going to do, give you a tax break if you teach math?
	What do you think?
	This is news to me.
	And then someone's, of course, trying to repeal...
	The mandate that individuals purchase health insurance, that's H.R. 105.
	I wonder who put that in.
	Let's see.
	Does it say here?
	Hmm.
	It doesn't say.
	That would be a Ron Paul thing, but he's not in there anymore, right?
	He's out.
	He's not out.
	I guess, yeah, I guess he's out.
	But, yeah, but that's just as of, like, next week or something.
	Okay.
	This is Scott Garrett of New Jersey, Republican.
	And then finally, H.R. 75, to end membership of the United States in the United Nations.
	That's a classic.
	Good luck with that.
	I think that's very funny.
	I love it when they do stuff like that.
	That tickles me.
	So that's your bogative bills.
	That's your United States government of work.
	This is the stuff they work on.
	Now, did you hear, you know, this is...
	This bullcrap, this is such total bullcrap, and this has cropped up, I've heard it now, two years running.
	The trillion dollar coin bullcrap, you've heard of this?
	Yeah, we were talking about it.
	Jace, Buzzkill Jr.
	brought it up at dinner saying, you know, thinking that it sounds more like a plot to a cheap movie.
	What's the one with Clooney and those guys that keep robbing the same casino?
	Yeah, like Ocean's 29 or something.
	Yeah, Ocean's 23.
	Hey, we're going to get the trillion dollar coin.
	Let's steal the trillion dollar coin.
	Well now, I've been reading this trillion dollar coin theory for years.
	It's like, oh, you can just issue a trillion dollar coin.
	And now it's actual news.
	So while they debate over a debate and race headlong into the debt ceiling, is there a magic bullet to solve the crisis?
	Try a magic coin.
	It's a magic coin, John.
	Some economists, legal scholars, and now even a congressman are suggesting a $1 trillion platinum coin could be minted and the government could use that to pay the debt, avoid default, and preempt the debt ceiling crisis.
	Let's understand how it works.
	Democratic Congressman Gerald Nadler of New York says, I'm being absolutely serious.
	It sounds silly, but it's absolutely legal.
	I spoke to economist Joe Gagnon.
	Why do you think it's a good idea right now?
	Well, I think it's better than a government shutdown.
	It's better than defaulting on the debt.
	I mean, it's better than the bad alternatives.
	And technically, it does appear to be legal.
	Here's how.
	The U.S. government can print new money, but under law, there's a limit to how much paper money can be in circulation at any one time.
	There are also rules that at least limit the denominations that gold, silver, and copper coins can be, but there is no limit on platinum coins.
	The president can issue a platinum coin in any denomination.
	Treasury can mint it and then just print on it $1 trillion.
	The president can then order that coin to be deposited at the Federal Reserve.
	Then, says Gagnon...
	And the Fed would credit the Treasury's account, and so when the Treasury writes checks to pay people, the Fed will cash them.
	I love this because when you introduce this trillion-dollar coin, which, by the way, they have a great rendering of it.
	It has Obama's head on it.
	It's pretty funny.
	So when you have this trillion-dollar coin, it tricks people into believing that this is real, that all this money is – that minting coins like this is real money.
	And the slaves, the human resources just fall for this.
	It's like the whole thing is – Money is basically just a joke.
	The whole idea is just a concept and a belief system.
	And now they're actually propagating this on news.
	Here's the funny part about this.
	This is actually April 5th, which was my birthday, by the way.
	April 5th, if anyone wants to get something for me.
	1998.
	1998.
	The 20th episode of the ninth season of the animated television series, The Simpsons.
	Oh, no.
	Has this exact plot.
	Wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	The episode sees Homer said, look up The Trouble with Trillions.
	That's the name of it.
	The episode sees Homer being sent by the...
	This is how dumb people are, our Congress.
	Sees Homer being sent by the Federal Bureau of Investigation to try to obtain a trillion dollar bill that Montgomery Burns failed to deliver to Europe during the post-war era.
	And hilarity ensues.
	Really?
	So there you have it.
	Wait, which, when was it?
	There's some purers impressed that it was April 5th.
	Hold on, maybe this one, hold on.
	You need all the friends you can get.
	And Moe's is the friendliest place in the rum district.
	Is this the one?
	Is this the episode?
	Get out and take your sack of your weird dollars with you.
	No, that's not it.
	That's not it.
	I'm looking for it.
	I wish I could find that one.
	Apparently Harry Truman, in the story, printed a $1 trillion bill with his photo on it.
	Ah?
	Photo?
	Same photo?
	Obama?
	Get it?
	Same fractal.
	To help reconstruct post-war Europe.
	He handed the bill over to Montgomery Burns to transport to the Europeans.
	However, the money never arrived and the FBI suspects Burns still has the money.
	Remember that other plot that...
	Oh, wow.
	What was that?
	About the $60 trillion can...
	Oh, my God.
	Now I'm spacing on it.
	It was money that Reagan had...
	Oh right, this crazy...
	Ken Iwata?
	What was that?
	We did this like four years ago on the show.
	What was that again?
	We had uncovered this crazy cockamamie story about all this money that's put in abeyance and it's part of some collection that's been going on all along and all I do is tap into it and we pay off everything and we're good to go.
	I remember that.
	What was that called again?
	I can't remember.
	This pops up from time to time.
	Think of the same bull crap that we're presented with on a weekly basis.
	Yeah.
	Someone in the chat room will know.
	It was the...
	Oh, it was the...
	I thought it was Ken Iwata.
	Wasn't that it?
	I don't remember.
	We'd have to say...
	Wanta, Wanta, Wanta, Wanta, Wanta.
	I think it was Ken Wanta.
	Wanta, right, right.
	Wasn't it Wanta?
	Wanta.
	Let me just see.
	Wanta.
	Maybe it wasn't Ken.
	The Wanta Fund.
	Trillions.
	Leo Wanta.
	There you go.
	Leo Wanta.
	In the Book of Knowledge.
	The Wanta Funds.
	There you go.
	$27.5 trillion in a fund that apparently is just sitting there waiting for us to tap into.
	And we can pay everything off.
	Leo Wanta.
	You should look into that.
	Let's research that again.
	It was part of a CIA plot that destabilized the Soviet economy in 1990.
	Wanta apparently was a CIA operative.
	The only thing standing in the way of life and death for Ambassador Leo Wante, I guess he was an ambassador too?
	I don't know.
	Yes, he was.
	That's astonishing to me to have an ambassador who was in the CIA. Leo Wante is still around though, right?
	I guess, yeah.
	He gave us an interview on January 10, 2010 on StuWeb, newswithviews.com.
	Who is Leo Wanta?
	Blah, blah, blah.
	Anyway, we talked about this before.
	It's More bull crap that's out there.
	I wish it were true, but it's...
	Yeah, it'd be great.
	They want it.
	Give us the money.
	Okay, so now that this is in the mainstream, though, this trillion-dollar coin, what can No Agenda listeners and producers do when some dumb slave who they typically work with or commute with or live with says, why don't we just mint the trillion-dollar coin?
	What can they say?
	They can punch him in the mouth.
	Okay.
	Just cold cock the guy.
	Shut up.
	Okay.
	I don't know what they can say.
	They don't say anything.
	They just roll their eyes and walk away.
	All right.
	So I've got the last bit of...
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	You want to do something?
	No, no.
	You got it.
	Were we rapping?
	No, not quite.
	Not quite.
	I got a little bit of...
	Just going back to...
	I got a little bit of a ditty.
	Okay, well you got a ditty.
	I got a ditty.
	Tell me what this is.
	I'd like to know what this is.
	It's only going to come in on one channel.
	And I'm fooling around on the European satellite dish, which I lost access to, by the way.
	So I'm going to...
	Calgary, here I come.
	And by the way, I want to thank the people that also offered some New York-based sling boxes.
	But I still need one in Australia.
	What is Radio Liberty?
	Okay.
	Can I do anything by...
	No, just play it.
	Is it just one channel only, you said?
	Yeah, yeah.
	This is Radio Free Europe.
	Radio Liberty.
	Praha. This is Radio Free Europe.
	Radio Liberty.
	Praha.
	Praha?
	BEEP This is Radio Free Europe.
	Radio Liberty.
	Praha.
	What is he saying at the end?
	Praha?
	Praha?
	P-R-A-H-A, I think.
	Where's Praha?
	I don't know.
	Is it maybe Prague?
	Is that how you pronounce Prague if you're a Czechoslovakian?
	Praha?
	Is that possible?
	Yes, Prague.
	Yeah, Praha.
	You pronounce it Prague, Praha.
	So that's Radio Free Europe.
	Radio Liberty.
	But the programming is rather sparse.
	Yes, that is the programming.
	Just keeping the channel open.
	Funny.
	Radio Praha.
	Praha.
	I bet you you could walk around the streets anywhere in the world, except for Czechoslovakia or the Czech Republic, and say, have you ever heard of Praha?
	And no one would know.
	Right.
	It's one of those things.
	I would agree.
	No agenda listeners know.
	Yeah, sure they do.
	Do you remember the crazy...
	The crazy lawyer who is suing Connecticut, representing the one eyewitness, the six-year-old girl of the Sandy Hook shooting.
	Right, and he backed off because he had a whole theory about it.
	This guy is being taken very seriously, or let's put it this way, he's showing up everywhere.
	So Bloomberg is interviewing him.
	Now Bloomberg is not, I don't consider it to be a super serious television network, but it is a serious outfit, a serious operation.
	So I think the guy is selling something.
	Because this guy is clearly a moron.
	He's just as moronic as everyone else we've seen involved in this entire saga, this entire script.
	And here is a snippet of him on Bloomberg.
	And what comes into play is, as he reports it, fact and science and obvious that this is where we're going with the tragedy and Sandy Hook.
	I've alienated them and I feel bad because I spent my whole life liking them and them liking me.
	But now I know that they have to take action to stop it again because it's disgusting.
	And of course, this is your job.
	This is what you do as a tort lawyer.
	Yeah, and as a Connecticut person.
	Notice he says Connecticut person.
	I guess he's probably a Hollywood, California resident as an actor, so he cuts himself off when he says person.
	Oh, good catch, good catch.
	Is this just about the state of Connecticut, or are you going to add other defendants here?
	Oh, well, if I can get insurance money from somebody in California who committed a tort here, who sent the guy a manual on how to shoot children, you know, I'll go for it.
	Okay, so now pay attention because what he just said is, if I can get insurance money, I'm not quite sure how tort lawsuits work, because the guy sent someone a manual?
	I mean, seriously, John?
	So we need to be on the lookout for a similar event in California where someone used Adam Lanza's manual.
	Which is probably on his computer or something.
	The terrorist cookbook?
	Could be.
	It's going to be the How to Kill Children manual.
	But here comes the real interesting information.
	No limits in Connecticut.
	And it's not about only protecting the children in Connecticut.
	As far as I'm concerned, I'd like to see, and I've gotten some clues on this.
	I've gotten some clues on this.
	He's gotten some clues.
	Some remote-controlled cameras with remote-controlled stopping weapons.
	Non-lethal robots, non-lethal drones.
	You can have a drone that big with a little bit of gas on it.
	And the police, who monitor half the streets anyway with their remote cameras from their booths.
	From their camera rooms can say, uh-oh, there's a problem there.
	That boy's walking up the street with a gun, and they can send a drone, and they can give him a little bit of knockout gas, and you may avoid a disaster.
	This is not ridiculous.
	This is the future.
	It may not be the future this year, but what's a one-foot-long drone cost?
	I know they don't even cost $1,000.
	So if you make a high quality, one's $5,000.
	I mean, come on.
	He's selling it.
	Clip of the day.
	Oh, thank you.
	I wasn't even prepared for that.
	He's selling it, man.
	The guy is selling it.
	He's selling the drones with a little bit of gas on it.
	Clip of the day.
	You know, what does a one-foot drone cost?
	Hey, come on, John.
	What does a one-foot drone cost?
	$1,000?
	It can't be that much.
	A ruggedized one for $5,000.
	In other words, the same $1,000 one added $4,000 with no difference.
	With a little bit of knockout gas on it.
	A little bit of knockout gas.
	But is that thing coming toward me?
	It has to go up steps.
	The cops, they've got cameras on all the time anyway.
	There's a little bit more to the clip.
	I don't know why I had more to it.
	Maniac.
	Maniac, but...
	A maniac, or is he out there sending a message?
	Well, probably sending a message.
	So, on the last show, we talked about Qatar buying Al Jazeera America.
	Yes, correct.
	So...
	There's a thing.
	I was watching the Canadian cable, and there's a whole couple of the BBC channels that they have in Canada are really more British than they are the ones we get.
	A lot of them, I've never seen any of these people.
	I never heard any of these shows.
	But they have a show they're coming out with, or something they got out already, and they're promoting the crap out of it.
	This is the promo for, which the promo's name is What's With Qatar, but it's about, just listen to this and tell me what the hell's going on with Qatar.
	The richest country per capita in the world wants to turn its petrodollars into global influence.
	Direct combines programmes and features to spotlight one country using the BBC's local knowledge.
	Boy races have become such an issue in Qatar that the government is actually instigating race days for them to get it out of their system.
	That's Qatar Direct on BBC World News.
	So it's like a regular show.
	Why does anybody in England or even Canada, or here for that matter, care about a daily or a weekly show, I think it's daily, about Qatar?
	Because they pay for it, of course.
	But why?
	Nobody goes there to shop.
	They go to Dubai.
	I mean, I don't get the deal.
	Something's up.
	This is what my thing is.
	Something's up, Qatar.
	The upper middle class.
	Has to have something to look at and pat themselves on the shoulder about.
	I guess.
	I don't know.
	Just saying something's up that just doesn't make any sense to me.
	Actually, there's been a lot about...
	Everyone's talking about this Al Jazeera deal.
	All the news networks are like, the terrorist Al Jazeera.
	Bin Laden's network.
	Yeah, you haven't noticed that?
	Yeah, it probably was for like a month until MI6, whoever, took it over.
	It's obviously a propaganda tool.
	The only other funny thing I kind of have is...
	They're really pushing all the women now that are in Congress.
	Let me rephrase that.
	Nancy Pelosi and the mainstream media are pushing how many women are now in Congress, and they have the Democratic...
	I think it's the Democratic Female Coalition or something, or the Women's Coalition, or...
	What do you call it?
	You call it caucus?
	Caucus.
	And there's like 67 of them.
	Congressional Women's Caucus.
	And Democrat.
	So there's 67, which is a lot.
	But it's really pushing the women, pushing the women.
	So they had a big photo shoot.
	Out on the steps of the Capitol.
	They seem to be preoccupied with women's issues.
	Who, me?
	Fully representing their areas, by the way.
	No.
	Go on.
	So they have a big photo shoot out on the steps.
	And during a press conference where Nancy Pelosi is meant to answer some questions, an actual journalist shows up and asks a very important question.
	Yesterday, your office put out a photo of all the female members of the House.
	And then later put out another photo because I guess a few of them weren't there yet and photoshopped in a few of them.
	Is that what they did?
	Yes.
	Did you catch that?
	So they released a press picture of all of the female members.
	And they photoshopped some more in.
	No, a couple of them just weren't there, so they just photoshopped them in.
	Yeah.
	Makes sense.
	That's crazy!
	And she goes, yeah, is that what they did?
	Who knows?
	I don't even know what Photoshop is.
	I'm too old.
	I'm 70 years old and I'm an idiot.
	No, that wasn't what she said.
	Does that present an accurate historical record?
	Yeah, it was an accurate historical record of who the Democratic women of Congress are.
	It also is an accurate record that it was freezing cold and our members have been waiting a long time for everyone to arrive.
	Shut up, slave!
	Yes, it's an accurate record because it's an accurate record of how cold it was and that's why several had to go inside.
	We had no time for the photo.
	Shut up, slave!
	It's a total accurate record.
	Total, total, total accurate record.
	Shut up, slave!
	There you go.
	That's exactly it.
	Shut up.
	The slave that commutes.
	Yeah, the slave that commutes, exactly.
	There's a bunch of crap going on in Canada.
	The Indians are revolting.
	Oh?
	It's called the Idle No More, some big movement.
	I have a clip.
	It's actually not that interesting, but there's some stink going on.
	I can't put my finger on it.
	I ran into a guy doing it.
	You know the way they do these?
	We don't see it so much in this country, but in Canada they have these pitches for starving children in Africa.
	Yeah.
	But this has a Canadian kind of angle to it, which is kind of like, well, the boys, they don't get enough food to even stand up if they could walk, and they don't get enough food to eat if they were alive, but they're all dead.
	I mean, it's just this kind of weird way of presenting a sales pitch to get you to give money for the starving kids in Africa who are standing right next to this guy.
	This boy has no...
	You know, this boy...
	He can't be fed by his father if he had a father.
	I just found the whole thing to be very...
	The presentation to an American ear I thought was very peculiar.
	This is Indians revolting in Canada?
	No, no.
	This is the Mike Holmes and the orphans.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Okay.
	Hi, I'm Mike Holmes.
	SOS is the largest orphan-focused charity in the world.
	Oh, you've heard of SOS, haven't you?
	Yeah?
	Okay.
	I've never heard this sort of pitch.
	Because we used to have to, in school here, when I was growing up, so like fifth grade, we had the SOS Children Villages, and we always had to collect money for them.
	It's not promoted so much in the USA. Let me tell you, I've seen it firsthand, and they know how to make it right.
	Unfortunately, around the world, HIV and AIDS has left millions of children orphaned.
	Even kids as young as seven and eight years old are living all alone and barely surviving.
	Many of them don't.
	Ten-year-old Ellie and his eight-year-old brother Moses were found begging for food because they didn't know what else to do.
	These two little boys are all alone, hungry, and scared.
	They're very vulnerable to all the bad that's here.
	That means if someone wants to come and take them, they can take them.
	If they want to abuse them, they can abuse them.
	If they want to take things from them, they'll take it.
	I just can't imagine two children living alone.
	These two boys wake up every day and fend for themselves.
	They probably wouldn't be alive today if it wasn't for the neighbors.
	There's no one to make them breakfast before they go to school.
	They don't even go to school.
	No one to wash their clothes.
	That's funny.
	They don't even go to school.
	It's weird.
	You go to school.
	There's no one to make them breakfast before they go to school.
	They don't even go to school!
	What is that?
	I don't understand what the nature of this pitch is.
	It's like so awkward.
	It's not a great pitch.
	No, not by American standards.
	I mean, these Canadians got to up the game.
	Hey, to wrap this up, can I play a little ditty here?
	You remember Dr.
	Kiki?
	Dr.
	Kiki?
	Yeah.
	Dr.
	Kiki?
	Stanford?
	Sanford?
	Dr.
	Kiki this week in science.
	Dr.
	Kiki?
	Yeah, her.
	She's the one who thought that we were idiots for not getting vaccinated with the phony bologna swine flu thing.
	Yeah.
	I know her.
	She's actually a very pleasant woman.
	I've never met her, but someone...
	I have.
	She's nice.
	I like her.
	Yeah.
	Someone pointed out the...
	I didn't actually drink it, honey.
	I just had like...
	It was just a prop.
	Okay, I did drink a little bit.
	Pour some in here.
	Yeah, there you go.
	That's my back.
	Holland.
	What?
	Holland.
	Yeah, Mickey's like, Holland.
	She knows I'm an alcoholic now.
	She knows it's happening.
	Are you an alky too?
	Ooh.
	Sorry, didn't want to offend any alcoholics in the audience.
	Okay, so Dr.
	Kiki, I guess she's not a part of Leo's network anymore, or is she?
	I guess she wasn't making the money he wanted or something, and she spun off and she's not working at Leo's operations, as far as I can tell.
	Right, okay, but she still has This Week in Science, and she does it with some other dude, and it's kind of low rent.
	I don't know, she's producing her thing or something.
	I don't know, it's not...
	It's not quite the same as it used to be, but it's still Dr.
	Kiki.
	And so they're talking about the controversy over, remember NASA, when they're like, oh, we have something fantastic, you know, next week we'll tell you about the Mars mission, and it turned out to be nothing.
	Yeah, yeah.
	What a disappointment.
	The guy was just excited about, I don't know, but everyone was like, oh boy, something great is coming out.
	So they talk about that, and essentially Dr.
	Kiki's message is, But anyway, that was just my little side note that I had to make because people are bashing the scientists and getting all huffy about it.
	And I just want to tell people to shut up already.
	It's science.
	Okay?
	Yeah, shut up.
	Science.
	That's what I'm going to say now.
	Shut up.
	Shut up already.
	This is science.
	There you go.
	That's how the scientists think about us.
	She literally was saying, shut up, it's science.
	Shut up, slaves!
	Shut up, slaves!
	I'm thinking I should clip that down a little bit more.
	Whenever there's a science thing, we just roll out Dr.
	Kiki.
	Shut up.
	Yeah, let me see.
	That's what I'm going to say now.
	That's a new saying.
	Shut up, it's science.
	Shut up, it's science.
	That's actually a nice little clip.
	Yeah, I'll clip it down a little bit more.
	It's pretty good, right?
	Yeah, it's amazing.
	Dr.
	Kiki.
	If she listened to our show, she'd know she wouldn't have said that.
	But she doesn't appear to listen to another one of these people.
	It was pointed out by one of our listeners who is very, very disappointed in Dr.
	Kiki.
	That was his exact words.
	I'm disappointed with the shut up slave moment.
	Very, very disappointed in Dr.
	Kiki at the moment.
	All right.
	Hey, are you doing Twit today?
	Yep.
	Oh, cool.
	All right.
	It'll be late for you.
	I'm in the rain.
	Oh, it's raining.
	Right.
	All right.
	Hey, well, promote us because we need some help on the donations.
	So talk about the show.
	Talk about how it's twice a week now or some bullcrap funny joke you do with Leo.
	You know, whenever I ask you that question, Leo's numbers go up because otherwise people don't watch the show.
	Yeah, well, you know, I'm a big draw.
	You are.
	You are.
	You are the best co-host of the best podcast in the universe, my friend.
	Alright, well, we'll find out Thursday what's going on with our exile status.
	Until then, I am still in exile in Amsterdam.
	In the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
	Well, I'm not in Amsterdam.
	I'm in northern Silicon Valley, where I'll remain.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll talk to you again on Thursday right here on No Agenda.
	It's science!
	Shut up!
	You slaves can get used to mac and cheese.
	Mac and cheese.
	Macaroni and cheap cheddar melt together.
	Mac and cheese.
	Mac and cheese.

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