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	This is not the kind of world that I want us to be in.
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Sunday, December 16, 2012.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 470.
	This is no agenda.
	Obviously not well and coming to you from Gitmo Nation lowlands, day 10 living in exile in Amsterdam.
	In the morning everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley where I remain, I'm John C. Devorak.
	That's right.
	Day 10 in exile here.
	And we'll be broadcasting this show...
	Until the end of the world.
	That's right, yeah.
	What was it?
	It used to be...
	I can't remember the guy's first name, Reynolds, and they had the hostage crisis on Nightline.
	And they said they were going to broadcast exclusively.
	This was in like 79.
	Yeah.
	Going to broadcast exclusively.
	And it went on and on.
	It's day 210.
	They just kept counting the days.
	Yeah, but they kept covering it.
	It was just like, ah!
	Good!
	Well, they have to keep covering that.
	Yeah, so we...
	A302. We actually, we got a little Christmas tree today.
	Oh, cute.
	Yeah, it's literally like a foot high.
	And so we got little lights and we put it in the window.
	And then, you know, so we take pictures of it.
	And then people are like, what are those bagels in your tree?
	It's a Dutch tree, people.
	We don't have bagels.
	It's like little chocolate wreaths.
	It's a Dutch Christmas tree.
	The Dutch, doesn't that attract bugs?
	It's too cold for any bugs to be roaming around.
	It is cold here, man.
	And we're a bunch of kids from Texas.
	The invisibility of putting food on the tree.
	Well, you have a point.
	It's just that there are no bugs now.
	Zero.
	Zero buggies.
	Okay?
	It's not happening.
	Anyway, it's very weird to be here in these days in particular.
	For those of you just tuning in and have been living under a no-agenda rock, Ms.
	Mickey and myself are here in exile.
	Day 10.
	And it looks like we will certainly be here through the, well, the end of the world on the 21st, no doubt.
	And should anything continue, then it looks like we'll be here after the first of the year.
	It is taking a while.
	And, of course, we have closures of government orifices, etc.
	But it's very weird to be walking around here because, you know, now we're kind of in this one little neighborhood and people see us on the street.
	Ugh!
	You know what happened the other day, John?
	This was amazing.
	Yeah, so we're sitting in a little cafe around the corner, literally.
	We'd met with some gallerists two streets over, and it's freezing, and then we walk back in, and then we're sitting inside, and we're in a typical Amsterdam cafe, and so Mickey's looking at her phone, and I'm looking at my phone, and we're just doing email and just catching up on stuff as we're having our coffee, and she's having a tea, and then all of a sudden it's in all the gossip websites, and Adam and Mickey, looks like they're not getting along!
	Someone took a picture inside the cafe of us on our phones.
	Like, they sat there and didn't speak a word.
	They just sat on their phones.
	They're not getting along!
	It's not okay.
	I think it's hilarious.
	Yeah, but we feel somewhat violated.
	You know, we're not used to this anymore.
	Can you imagine being one of the A-list celebrities in the United States and what they have to deal with on a day-to-day basis?
	They can't go anywhere.
	Maybe they get paid a lot of money for it.
	Maybe there's a trade-off.
	Ah, there's the difference.
	Yeah, I guess for millions and millions of dollars, you can put up with a lot.
	Yeah, and you can get a couple of cars.
	You're not getting anything.
	Not really.
	You're not getting jacked.
	Not really.
	And so, of course, now people know that we're from Texas and...
	Hey, how's that gun stuff working out in America for you, huh?
	Smarty pants?
	Because, you know, in America you can still be kind of crackpot.
	You can still kind of say, like, okay, well, you know, there's a lot going on here with guns and mental health and we've got these shootings and, you know, let's look at some other things that are going on.
	But here it's just like, yeah, you and your guns.
	See what happens?
	See what happens?
	Yeah, well, you know, maybe you could throw it back at him and tell him it's actually gun control, as a matter of fact, that caused this problem.
	If you want to look into it from the...
	There was a memo sent out by...
	I mean, the NRA never did anything, but the Libertarian Party came out and said that...
	The only reason this happened was the Federal Gun Free School Zone Act.
	Which Clinton pushed through in 1990, disarmed all the schools so nobody could have a gun within a thousand feet, including an off-duty police officer without getting five years in jail.
	And then they made one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight examples before that law was passed.
	And then they had some other minor examples about how these situations were nipped in the bud by a principal who had a gun or a janitor who had a gun in his truck or whatever came out and did some damage.
	Interesting thing to me is that Portland thing which died on the vine.
	I didn't realize it that it was some gunman.
	I mean, the gunman was there and then he was confronted by a shopper carrying a concealed weapon and that's when he shot himself.
	Oh, I didn't hear about this.
	Well, of course not.
	Not in the list.
	It's not played right.
	You can't hear about this.
	In fact, that whole Portland thing was dropped like a hot potato because it was going to be...
	It didn't work.
	It didn't pan out.
	It didn't work.
	It didn't get everyone talking about getting guns off the street.
	Since you bring up the NRA, because of course the only thing I do have here...
	We've got some CNN. And CNN International, by the way, I think we should have that on our cable stations in the U.S. because it is, to some extent, much more interesting.
	It really does have some interesting stuff.
	It's also some incredibly boring stuff.
	But, of course, they run Pierce Moron, who had on a guy from the NRA and Congressman Nadler from New York.
	And I just love the meme that's...
	Moron is just...
	He's out of control, by the way.
	Listen to him.
	I've been debating this all week.
	I've been debating it for months, if not two years.
	Because, you know, Pierce is, of course, the hero.
	American hero for gun control.
	You know, he's a British douchebag.
	I'm so frustrated.
	I'm so furious.
	He's furious.
	He's furious about...
	It's all about him.
	About the phone hacking scandal that you ran away from and are hiding from in New York.
	...blown away again with legally acquired weapons.
	Some boy who's got problems takes his mother's three weapons, including this ridiculous assault rifle, and goes into school and kills his kids.
	And you guys on the gun lobby still want to tell me the answer is more guns.
	Look, I've been an academic.
	No, but where is it?
	Yes, sir.
	How else can you...
	Now, wait for it.
	Stop someone who's shooting people.
	If you let the congressman speak.
	What you ought to be most angry about is that every poll shows that by massive majorities, Americans agree with what you just said.
	And yet we have a lobby, the leadership of the NRA, who function as enablers of mass murderers.
	So, enablers of mass murder, which is a pretty big statement.
	But this idea that the American people are universally against guns, yet the NRA lobby is huge, this propagates here in Europe.
	People know about the NRA, and they say, well, you know, that hasn't changed in America because you have the gun lobby, right?
	The gun lobby.
	I said, no, I think I think the Americans kind of want the guns.
	Otherwise, I think it would have changed.
	Not the guns, because we're sitting ducks.
	I mean, the whole thing is, let's take away, I mean, they have, like I said, it was gun legislation, gun control, that now have turned all the schools into sitting ducks for some maniac.
	Those guns aren't, I mean, you can make all, yeah, yeah, I'm all for it if you can make all the guns magically disappear.
	So there's no such thing as a gun.
	Including the, when they're doing that, if you got to see all the video of this whole event, all these soldiers running around with the AK-37.
	I know, what's up with that?
	or whatever the hell they were, M-16s, wandering around in full gear.
	Talk about scaring the kids.
	Let's take a look at a couple things.
	We have a military state.
	We have a president who has a kill list.
	We're droning children constantly, which was kind of weird when Obama was moaning about or feeling bad about these poor dead children, which was a huge tragedy, of course.
	But this is a military state.
	We've got wars going on.
	We have movies that are extremely violent.
	There's been nothing like it in the history of entertainment.
	I mean, if you look at these things.
	They've got video games that are dangerous or violent.
	I mean, everything is violence, violence, violence.
	And then you say, well, we should have no guns.
	I mean, that's never going to fly.
	And anybody thinks that everybody doesn't want guns.
	It's nuts.
	They love playing with guns.
	The problem is that...
	Right idea.
	Everybody's armed and nobody goes into a police, like the libertarian newsletter says, nobody goes into a police station to shoot it out with the cops because they all have guns.
	So they pick on a school where there's no guns allowed.
	I'm always looking for what's taking place while these types of headlines are propagating throughout the world of so-called news.
	It was very interesting to see that the President slipped in his letter from the President to Congress for the War Powers Resolution to re-up his power under the enactment of the War Powers Resolution, which was enacted October 7, 2001.
	Did you see any reporting on that?
	No, there's no such thing as reporting.
	He lays it all out.
	Because of the Al-Qaeda's and the Taliban's, we've got to have all these security details everywhere.
	He lays it all out there.
	We've got our 65,000 people in Afghanistan and all the way into Africa.
	You'll see it in the show notes.
	Did you know that we have a whole bunch of people in Kosovo?
	Still?
	Yeah, I did know that.
	I didn't know that.
	So we're still in Kosovo.
	We've got military operations in Egypt, maritime interception operations.
	So all of this, you know, military operations in Central Africa.
	So yeah, no, you're absolutely right.
	We are a complete militaristic state.
	It's very difficult.
	Yeah, and then you wonder why some kid, I mean, by the way, why don't we almost cut to the chase and call a spade a spade here with this kid.
	He was known to have Aspergers.
	Yeah.
	He was slightly autistic.
	His mother was weird, I guess.
	There's no doubt.
	In fact, I think there's evidence and reports that he was on something.
	He was just like that red-headed kid, zombified by something, and he went off.
	Probably under some sort of a psychological state of craziness.
	So this is exactly...
	And this isn't discussed at all.
	Have you seen one report on this kid being drugged?
	No.
	Well, it's starting to happen now.
	The report that I saw just before the show started, this is the one that just killed me.
	Apparently, his mom was a prepper.
	Okay.
	That would explain the six guns in the film.
	Right.
	Does this start to complete the whole story?
	So she was a, quote, survivalist preparing for the end-of-the-world economy by stockpiling food, having guns.
	She taught her son how to use the gun, obviously.
	I have three clips that matter in regards to this.
	What happened?
	How it happened?
	We don't have any real information.
	We don't actually know what's going on.
	There's been contradictory reports from the beginning.
	First it was the older brother who wasn't even in town.
	This is like the kind of police and reporting that went on.
	And anyway, yeah, play your clips.
	Well, first, did you get the two gunmen, that report?
	Because you always have to look at the report.
	That was at the very beginning.
	Yeah, at the very beginning, there were two gunmen.
	They apprehended someone in the woods nearby.
	You know, that stuff, of course, goes away eventually.
	So there's a couple of clips.
	The first one...
	And by the way, the experts is always what you want to look at.
	The experts, they bring into the story.
	So you have one guy who works for Hill and Knowlton, who's pretending to be the head of some anti-gun lobby.
	Then we have this Van Zandt guy.
	The Van Zandt guy is on NBC. This is him with Brian Williams.
	I wrote this down.
	Clint Van Zandt.
	He is an ex-FBI profiler and negotiator, famously known for his excellent work with the Branch Davidian Compound.
	And David Koresh.
	So the guy has quite a track record of making things turn out well.
	And he and Brian Williams, it's like they were given a script to explain to people what this is, where it's coming from, and how it's all related to the same thing, which for my money could almost be turned around into saying, oh my God, this is how they take these exact same people, mind control them, into doing this stuff.
	What kind of person takes the lives of 20 little children?
	You touched on this in Pete Williams' reporting earlier this evening, and I know there's probably a deeper psychological explanation.
	He knows that there's a deeper psychological explanation, which of course is meant to come out later.
	He's literally saying, look, I know this is all coming out, but let's just lay the groundwork.
	This is someone, to put it differently, who walked among us as of yesterday, as recently as this morning.
	And these are questions, Brian, we continue to ask ourselves.
	We ask about the individual who shot Congressperson Gabby.
	We ask about...
	I love how he's such a bonehead.
	Congressperson Gabby?
	Okay.
	How about Giffords?
	Try that.
	The individual who did the Aurora, Colorado shooting...
	Colorado?
	Colorado?
	And the shooting earlier this week at the Portland, Oregon Mall...
	Realize those last two shootings that I just talked about, same type of dress, Brian.
	Dark clothing, dark boots.
	See, we don't even know if this kid had any of that, but he's laying it out for you.
	Dark clothing, boots.
	Either a bulletproof vest or a weight-bearing vest.
	Man!
	Really?
	Multiple magazines.
	This is almost like someone is in this fantasy idea that there's some type of a combatant, a superhero, but Brian, they're going to war against the most vulnerable of society.
	John, do you get the feeling that I got when I was hearing this?
	I'm like, yeah, that sounds like, almost, I mean, we can't put it there, but it almost sounds like a government conspiracy to have a whole bunch of these kids go out there and do this stuff.
	I mean, it's like they're making it up.
	This is not like some coincidence that you're just all of a sudden stumbling on here.
	And in this case, when you have someone today who first committed matricide, the killing of his mother...
	Now, that's a big one there.
	I'm going to give that a big ding.
	The matricide meme.
	This is new.
	Brian, that's such a taboo in every society that once that takes place, you're really capable of almost doing anything else.
	And today, the two taboos that most of us may well hold closest, the injury or killing of your mother and the harming of innocent children, this shooter did both.
	And Clint, of course, the reason you and I have spent so much time on television over the years is we've turned to you to explain awful mass crimes in this country.
	The question is, you were just talking about things like body armor and the get-up these young gunmen have used in these crimes we've come to know.
	Forgive me if I'm wrong.
	There was no get-up that Loughner used when he shot in Arizona.
	There was no get-up there.
	They're just making this up, right?
	This is just bullcrap.
	They're making this up.
	They're dramatizing it, a dramatic situation, and they're essentially modifying it for some reason.
	Yeah, they're lying.
	I've come to know, Aurora comes to mind, how he walked in that theater that night.
	He didn't walk in that theater that night.
	It was a whole different sequence of events.
	Has anything changed in your view?
	Has there been a new militarism to some of these mass murderers?
	Well, and again, Brian, we see about 20 on the app.
	I know, it's crazy, it's crazy.
	Of mass multiple shootings or mass murders like this per year.
	Realize today in China, 33 children...
	Oh, there it is.
	...slashed at an elementary school...
	So he's kind of contradicting.
	First of all, he throws out the 33.
	Totally contradicting himself.
	This China thing was a guy with a knife.
	And by the way, this has been going on in China for a couple of years now.
	There's been these crazy guys running into schools and stabbing kids or a hatchet.
	There's a couple of axe guys that came in and they started hacking away.
	And nobody knows quite what to do about it.
	So guess one of the things the Chinese government is now doing?
	Making you register to buy a big knife.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah.
	If the knife is too big, you have to register.
	This is where this all leads.
	It doesn't do any good.
	This is window dressing.
	So here's the clip that really brought it all home for me.
	And here we have...
	This is CNN. And this is Sanjay Gupta, who of course, as you know, is a medical professional.
	And Sanjay Gupta is on, he's on via remote, but in the studio is Lisa Van Susteren.
	And Lisa Van Susteren essentially works for the CIA. I'm looking at her Wikipedia page here.
	Completed a residency training, psychiatry at St.
	Elizabeth Hospital in Washington, D.C., board certified.
	She works as a consultant to the Central Intelligence Agency, conducting psychological assessments of world leaders.
	Right.
	An assistant clinical professor of psychiatry at Georgetown University Department of Psychiatry.
	Volunteers for Physicians for Human Rights.
	I mean, so this is a shill.
	It's an obvious shill.
	And this is where...
	Yeah, totally.
	And now, I want...
	Because this is...
	The guns thing is one, and I'm sure you've got a lot of thoughts about that, about getting rid of guns, handing your guns, register your guns, forget about whatever it is.
	But of course this kid was on, like 40% of all children are on some form of psychotropic drug, whether it's a Ritalin, Adderall, or Xanax, or whatever it is.
	Who knows?
	Who knows?
	They won't tell us.
	Eventually they will, but I want you to listen to what she is pushing for.
	And she is clearly from the Washington establishment, and it is frightening to hear what she is pushing for legislation-wise.
	Forget about guns.
	That's not what this is about, people.
	This is all about the pharmaceutical industry.
	Stand by and get ready.
	So many experts have said to me after other killings along this line over the years, there are these warning signs, but a lot of folks, family members, friends, they don't pay attention to them.
	No, we don't.
	John, you've got to pay attention to your kids because the warning signs are there.
	Well, you know, that's not entirely fair.
	I'll tell you why.
	I've been doing this business for 25 years.
	There are plenty of families who are distraught, who have members of their family, their children, that they know are dangerous, and they live with this anguish of not being able to do anything for them.
	My head is now spinning.
	It's like, oh yes, I know so many families who are just, they say, I can't, no one will listen, my child is dangerous!
	For weeks and months and years, the reality is that we really don't have the legislation that allows the people in authority, either doctors or the officials, other officials, to do what must Yes!
	We don't have the legislation to come in and shoot you or your kids or anybody else up with any kind of drugs because you look like you might be a menace to society.
	So now I'm ready for this conversation.
	But the extent that this woman goes to is mind-boggling.
	Until the person has committed a crime, and that's when they come to their attention.
	So it's just not entirely true that people are in denial.
	What are the warning signs that people should be looking at for someone who might go out and start killing kids?
	There are plenty of families who do respond to the warning signs, and they will call the authorities.
	Okay, what are the warning signs?
	John, do you have a pen and paper?
	You better write it down.
	I'm writing it down.
	Here come the warning signs.
	They will see that their child is angry.
	Oh, my kid is angry!
	Oh, no!
	A kid is angry!
	Oh, stop the pressure!
	A kid got...
	Oh, wait, wait, wait.
	It gets better.
	It gets better.
	Isolated.
	Isolated.
	Brooding.
	Brooding in his room.
	Clearly, potentially responding to auditory hallucinations.
	They hear voices.
	I hear voices in my head.
	Maybe a fascination with guns.
	Maybe they're at a shooting range.
	How did we go from the kids angry to the kids on the shooting range?
	Or maybe if you're playing War of Worldcraft, you know, the War of Worldcraft.
	Hey, Mom!
	I'm going to go to the shooting range.
	I'll be back later tonight.
	They know something's wrong.
	Well, you can't call the police and say, my son's acting weird.
	Come and get him.
	That's what we should be doing, apparently.
	He needs help.
	They don't have any justification for doing that.
	So there is, in most jurisdictions, it's almost impossible until you've actually committed a crime to intervene in a way that can protect our society.
	That's what has to be changed, is the legislation so we can act before a crime.
	Okay, so what she's saying is...
	And this is just the beginning.
	No, no, this is just the beginning.
	So what she's saying is...
	And this is the woman who works for the Washington establishment.
	And she's been doing it for 25 years, as she pointed out.
	We need legislation so that you can force Medicaid or lock up your clearly deranged child.
	Let's go to Sanjay Gupta.
	Sanjay, you study the brain...
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	Did you know that Sanjay studies the brain, John?
	Yeah, they push this.
	He's a neurological surgeon or something.
	He studies the brain.
	I thought he was...
	He just studies the brain.
	I thought he was a virologist.
	Last time I looked, he knew everything about his wife.
	I think he changes...
	He's like me.
	You know, you give me all these titles.
	Yeah, right.
	Same thing.
	Sanjay, you study the brain.
	All the time, are there...
	All the time.
	Like, everything.
	Sanjay Gupta.
	Some people get up and just go to work.
	Sanjay Gupta gets up and studies the brain, people.
	Chemical imbalances here?
	Are there chemical problems that could create a killer like this?
	I think so, Wolf.
	And I think, you know, I agree with your guest as well that, you know, I mean, look, these things, they used to be sort of in the realm of the anecdotal, you know, now there's objective evidence.
	Objective evidence!
	Of what we can see happening.
	I mean, it's like science!
	Certainly in the brain.
	There may be people who are more predisposed or set up for it.
	Ooh!
	This gets even better.
	When you're born, we can check your DNA to see if you're predisposed for it or set up for it.
	And then something pushes them over the edge.
	It's unclear, obviously, in most of these situations.
	But, you know, I think that to think of mental illness as a real disease, and when you start thinking about it like that, it changes everyone's perspective.
	You think about it more...
	Like you would think of someone who has heart problems, again, or cancer or diabetes.
	It's just like having cancer or like diabetes.
	You can get a pill because you have a real disease.
	It changes everyone's perspective, again, in terms of how you potentially think about it within your own family, potentially getting it diagnosed and treated.
	Again, I agree with you.
	John, I'm going to turn you in.
	I think I should potentially have you die.
	But it's not going to do you any good, chump.
	There's not enough legislation to stop me.
	Yes, it's hard to do sometimes.
	We're not talking about...
	You've got to hear this woman one more time.
	She's coming back.
	This is fantastic.
	Sanjay Gupta needs to shut up.
	He's like ruining the whole segment now.
	And this woman's going to take it back.
	If somebody show up and take a family member away, we're talking about someone being able to talk about it openly.
	Mommy, why are they taking me away, Mom?
	...resources that they can go see somebody.
	It's not easy.
	It's not even available for many people around the country, Wolf.
	And if no one, Lisa, has committed a crime yet, but there are these signs out there that are...
	Before it's a crime, it's pre-crime.
	I want to go out there and kill people.
	Hey, I woke up this morning and thought, I want to go out there and kill people.
	I'm going to practice ranges.
	I'm going to go practice range before I kill some people.
	Is it usually an indication?
	By the way, they're making the association here that if you go to the practice range to shoot off a few rounds with your buddies, you're really planning to kill somebody.
	Yeah.
	People should be up in arms about this sort of thing.
	Wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	She's going to finish it up and then you'll really be up in arms.
	I want to go out there and kill people.
	This is my ringtone.
	I want to go out there and kill people.
	We're going to practice ranges.
	Is it usually an indication of a psychiatric problem that can be treated, for example, with medicine?
	Yeah.
	Oh, could it be treated with the medicine?
	Well, sure.
	Sure!
	To take the medicine, but usually when you have a person that's like that, they won't acknowledge that there's anything wrong.
	Try getting them into treatment.
	Try getting them to take that pill.
	You need to force them into treatment.
	They won't do it.
	That's not everybody.
	Not everybody's out there doing this.
	But for those who do...
	It's because they have most likely refused treatment.
	I'll bet you anything that most of the people that we're talking about and the person we're talking about today was clearly to his family a danger and they just didn't know what to do and they didn't have the legislation and that's the problem.
	I mean, is this amazing?
	I think we can just sit here and wait for the legislation to come.
	To back them up so that we could take action.
	Now, I'll just add this.
	A number of decades ago, we were very fearful that people would be thrown into a hospital just because they were different.
	Yeah, because of people like you, Lady Crazy.
	We wanted to protect them, so we enacted all sorts of laws to protect people.
	We've gone too far in that direction.
	Now we have to face the reality and acknowledge that we have to step up our work getting people into treatment when they need it and letting doctors make those decisions, not just lawyers and judges.
	Oh, wow.
	This is fantastic.
	She literally is saying that we were trying to protect people.
	Just because you're different, you're a little crazy, you know, like you have...
	I don't know, Tourette's Syndrome or something, you know.
	And we went too far in protecting these people.
	Now we have to take them and we have to get them medicated properly and quickly.
	And not just let lawyers make decisions and politicians, but professionals.
	Yeah, the law should have anything to do.
	No, no.
	Only professionals like medical doctors like Sanjay Gupta who study the brain.
	This is what is frightening me about this occurrence.
	Not because...
	I have the one clip that fits into this.
	I think I heard this once on all the reports on CNN. They pulled it.
	But this is the one that just kind of like, oh, really?
	Play neighbor with conflicting information.
	Got a closer look at the shooter, the 20-year-old Adam Lanza.
	You're getting new information.
	Brian, what are you learning?
	Well, police say they're picking up what they call good evidence about Adam Lanza.
	Is that the right clip?
	This says, neighbor with conflicting information.
	Okay.
	Picking up that evidence at the mother's house.
	They are not letting on what that evidence is, but we're getting some new details about the shooter's past and his family.
	His motive for this unspeakable act is still not clear, law enforcement officials say, and in digging for details about shooter Adam Lanza and his family, accounts emerge that are still confusing, sometimes conflicting.
	A neighbor who knew him in recent years describes Lanza as troubled, but listen to this account from a young man who knew him.
	He's just a kid.
	Just a kid.
	He's a kid.
	Never antisocial.
	No, I'm just gonna, no.
	Troublemaker?
	No, no, definitely not.
	Noticeable?
	Did he just kind of blend into the background?
	Yeah.
	Nothing that would warrant any of this.
	Was he very quiet and did he keep to himself and did he have an obsession with guns?
	Did he sometimes say...
	I know they're trying to lead the guy, but the guy's a neighbor and you can just tell by looking at him he's saying, he's just some kid.
	I mean, he wasn't anything weird or anything that he's hearing.
	Let me ask you a question.
	I'm probably different.
	But I certainly can remember as a kid, I know that I have said at a certain point, and I'm sure other kids have said this, I wish you were dead!
	Have you ever said that when you were a kid?
	No, I don't think so.
	I think a lot of kids say that.
	I think it's said all the time.
	I wish you were all dead.
	They show it in sitcoms.
	It's not a new thing.
	So now if you say that, we better get this kid some drugs.
	And luckily we'll have legislation that will enable this so that your neighbors can then call up and say, hey, you know, this kid is like really doing weird stuff.
	So by the way, you know, there's drugging all these kids.
	You're just going to make this worse.
	Well, of course.
	I mean, this is not a coincidence that these things are happening and that we're going to drug them even more.
	I have in the show notes, 470.nashownotes.com, a beautiful list.
	Now the list is...
	Unfortunately, it's not as complete as I'd like it to be.
	It goes up until the end of 2011.
	Maybe it's just an annual thing.
	It is SSRIStories.com and it gives you an overview of every single crime that has been committed by kids on drugs.
	And if you see 2008...
	A school shooting.
	This was Illinois.
	A kid was withdrawing from Prozac.
	2005, Minnesota.
	Prozac antidepressant.
	2001, Paxil antidepressant.
	A school shooting.
	This is all these school shootings that are all related.
	And by the way, this is the same for these kids that kill themselves after being bullied.
	They're all on some kind of drug.
	This is the problem.
	But instead of that, oh, let's make some more bully legislation.
	No, the problem is these kids are drugged.
	This bullying has to come out on this kid, too, eventually.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah, of course.
	That's why he was on the drugs in the first place.
	But whatever the reason he was on the drugs, I think he was on the drugs because they couldn't deal with his Asperger's, and they, you know, he was...
	Instead of just letting him grow up to be a normal person, like Bill Gates, he ends up being a major philanthropist.
	I wouldn't call Gates well-adjusted, but he's not going out shooting people.
	He's not the sexiest man alive, and we'll agree with that, but he's interesting.
	He's interesting.
	You know, he may be a eugenicist, but he's still interesting.
	Well, you have to kill people.
	Hey, there you go!
	It all fits in.
	Anyway, so of course the other side of all of this, it's not so much as what happened or how it happened, it's what's being done with it right now.
	Test shootings of recent years have not led to stricter gun laws.
	Oh, this is interesting.
	By the way, hold on a second.
	Was this supposed to...
	Is this supposed to be...
	Well, by the way, again, I'm going to remind everybody that this was stricter gun laws with the passage of the notice of guns around schools.
	So explain exactly what you mean by this.
	Because this will never fly...
	If you're ever invited on Pierce Morgan's show and you try and play this one, it's just going to yell at you.
	You'll realize that.
	If you say, because of stricter gun laws, this is why this happened.
	This is not an argument that sticks in today's world of people who are mind-controlled about what happens in the world.
	I want to read you right from the libertarian note.
	We've created a gun-free zone, a killing zone for the sickest criminals on the face of the earth.
	This is a gun law.
	We're giving them an open killing field.
	We made the children the country of the victims.
	Wright points out that merely the knowledge that armed people will be present acts as a deterrent for would-be shooters.
	They're not going to walk into a police station because that's where the guns are.
	The Federal Guns-Free School Zone Act prohibits carrying firearms on the school grounds in most cases, effectively criminalizing the right to self-defense in places filled with the most vulnerable citizens.
	And then they have a list of the 1997 school shooting in Pearl, Mississippi was halted by the school's vice principal after he retrieved the Colt.45 he kept in his truck.
	A 1998 middle school shooting and when a man living next door heard gunfire and apprehended the shooter with a shotgun.
	A 2002 terrorist attack in an Israeli school was quickly stopped by an armed teacher.
	2002 law school shooting in Grundy, Virginia came to an abrupt conclusion when students carrying firearms confronted the shooter.
	I mean, it was gun control that caused this problem, but nobody wants to address it that way.
	I mean, the libertarians, who nobody listens to anyway, have really hit the nail on the head here.
	Can I ask you a question?
	I tried that with Pierce.
	The guy's an idiot.
	I've got another real hot button.
	Do you think, after watching, that the president was faking his crying?
	Well, for somebody who's probably killed more children with his drones just by double tapping...
	I'm saying, I mean, it looked totally fake to me.
	Because we saw him cry after the election when he was talking to his staff and he was really sad that he couldn't campaign anymore.
	Well, he gets a lot of attention when he cries.
	He got so much attention from that staff meeting.
	Oh, this is a great guy because he's, you know, I think it's possible.
	I honestly don't think so.
	I can't believe he'd be that bad.
	He'd be a pretty good actor.
	I think he was touched by it.
	I just thought he was.
	You could be right.
	He could be the biggest phony we've ever seen.
	I'm just going to say it.
	The guy's a phony.
	The way he was rubbing underneath his eyes the whole time and pausing.
	I'm like, the guy's acting.
	I'm sorry.
	You can hate me.
	My wife hates me for saying it.
	But the guy was acting.
	I don't believe it for a second.
	Because you're right.
	You never see him cry...
	For the boys and girls that are maimed by IEDs and all these crazy wars that we're in.
	You never see him cry for, oh, I'm sorry, we got the Al-Qaeda guy, but we killed 20 other people at the wedding.
	I'm sorry.
	Never see him cry for that.
	The man has no compassion for anything like that.
	So all of a sudden, this now?
	Nah, I'm just going to call it as bull crap.
	And you can hate me all you want.
	But that to me, I didn't see any tears, so I'm rubbing underneath his eyes.
	It made me angry just to see it.
	I can tell.
	Yeah, well, I'm sorry.
	But you're right.
	Not to be sorry.
	You can have your opinion.
	I think it's fine.
	The thing that I see is exactly what you started off with.
	There's no crying, no tears for the kids that we droned.
	Ever.
	You know, it's like, hey, you know, I really hate doing this, but we've got to get the Taliban, we've got to get Al-Qaeda.
	I'm really sorry that sometimes children are also hurt in this.
	This is not the kind of world that I want us to be in.
	As a father, I really feel it.
	How was that?
	Was that good?
	I mean, I could be president.
	You're kind of a cornball actor, you know that.
	Oh, please.
	So, uh, play this.
	I did.
	Thanks.
	Thanks, buddy.
	We won't go into that.
	Hey, I'm SAG, okay?
	I'm SAG because of that.
	Yeah, you're SAG. So, here's another thing that was interesting.
	The security aspect.
	You played the security report at school.
	Why was this implemented in the first place?
	What were they fearful of?
	What's going on?
	The chaos.
	So, this was really, really close to them.
	Sandy Hook is indeed quaint, idyllic even, quintessential New England.
	But here too, schools have stepped up security.
	Just this year, Sandy Hook Elementary School put into place a security plan, making it mandatory for visitors to ring a doorbell and only be let in if the staff recognized them through the video monitor.
	And if staff didn't recognize the visitor, he or she needed to present a picture ID, sign in, and only then would be let into the school.
	Even when Caitlin went to Sandy Hook, there were emergency drills, lessons that may have saved some of the children today.
	Well, did everything fail?
	Oh, well, the guy just blew, he busted the window, kicked down the door, came in and started shooting up the place.
	It's a security theater.
	It's like the TSA. It doesn't do anything.
	As far as I can tell, it terrorizes the public.
	And I think these kids must be terrorized by these drills they put them through.
	I mean, to begin with.
	I mean, when I was a kid, they used to make you jump under the desk because the Russians were going to bomb us any minute.
	The whole American public has been terrorized constantly.
	Yeah.
	You know what else was weird?
	By the way, it was the principal who got killed who was the one who put these...
	I was afraid it was going to happen.
	These were all rich kids.
	I think there was...
	I'm thinking that...
	Just let me be a crackpot for a second.
	Okay.
	Because I've seen enough of these, and I know how to stage it, you know, to do a drama.
	You've been through enough of this.
	If you kill like 30 people, there may be actually a target in there.
	Right.
	One.
	Yeah, one.
	And you obfuscate the target by killing a lot of people.
	And when you're some sort of hypnotized zombie, or who knows what was wrong with this guy, and he comes in there and murders a bunch of people, he may have been targeting...
	The principal was one of the people he went right after, and then he shot a bunch of other women, because he knew that the principal was a female.
	Now, she's the one who put all the security measures in to keep people out of the school.
	There's something fishy about this whole thing, and I'm wondering if there was somebody that was actually targeted for some reason that we will never find out about and no one's going to discuss.
	Let me ask you this.
	Here's something else that I found that was kind of weird.
	So first they say the Bushmaster, which of course is a horrible military-looking gun, because you can't have a gun that looks like a military gun.
	It's a varmint gun.
	But you can have a car that looks like a Formula One racing car.
	Anyway...
	So, now he killed how many people?
	Twenty?
	Twenty-six.
	Twenty-six, okay.
	And according to the reports, so first of all, they know exactly what he's got, a Glock, he's got a Sig Sauer, he's got a Bushmaster.
	But then it said, every single person that was killed, and this is this, I mean, I immediately saw this one, I'm like, ugh, are they trying to tell me something?
	Every single person that was killed was killed with three to eleven bullets, which of course is thirty-three.
	But if you take 3 to 11 times 20, did he reload?
	I mean, what did he do?
	So he had multiple clips.
	I mean, we haven't heard any of this.
	Well, according to the coroner's most recent report, all the kids were shot with a rifle.
	Which initially, that thing was left in the car.
	The rifle was found in the car.
	I don't know.
	I doubt that's true.
	Whatever the case is, they were supposedly all killed with a rifle, and that's a.223, which is a swift.
	It's a bullet that blows the crap out of anything it hits.
	But it doesn't make sense to me that he'd be...
	What's the two handguns for?
	Close range?
	Yeah, well, but then there was three to eleven shots per person.
	Thank you, thank you.
	The whole thing is weird.
	The whole thing is weird.
	Exactly, exactly.
	And it's being leveraged, it's leveraged, if nothing else, as far as I can tell, is play the Clinton Bump's head clip.
	Ha ha ha!
	This was actually my favorite of the day.
	News that the Secretary of State Hillary Clinton sustained a concussion after fainting.
	Our foreign affairs reporter Elyse Laban is joining us now with the latest information we're getting.
	So Elyse, update our viewers.
	What do we know?
	Well Wolf, over the week Secretary of State Clinton got a stomach virus as you know that really put her out for the whole week.
	She caught that on a trip to Europe earlier in the month and she had to cancel her trip to the Middle East this week where she was expected to attend a big meeting on Syria.
	Now we hear that Secretary has suffered a lot of dehydration.
	She fainted.
	And we're told her doctors say over the course of the week, they realized that when she fainted, she suffered a concussion.
	Let me read you a statement from her spokesman, Deputy Assistant Secretary Philippe Reynas.
	While suffering from a stomach virus, Secretary Clinton became dehydrated and fainted, sustaining a concussion.
	She has been recovering at home and will continue to be monitored regularly by her doctors.
	At their recommendation, she will continue to work from home next week, staying in contact with department and other officials.
	Wolf, I'm told this concussion was not severe and that Secretary does intend to come back to work after some recuperation.
	And her doctor said in a statement that she will make a full recovery work.
	Don't eat me Hillary Clinton!
	So she had the vapors apparently.
	I've got the vapors!
	And she passed out.
	She pooped her guts out and then she fell down.
	Maybe in the toilet.
	Yeah.
	Well, this of course is all very convenient.
	Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is out of the hospital and resting at home recovering from a concussion she sustained during the fall.
	A spokesperson for the State Department says Hillary fainted due to dehydration and hit her head during that fall.
	I love the applause in the background.
	Like, oh, good job, good job, good job.
	Her doctors have asked her to stay home this next week and rest.
	Because of her prognosis, Clinton will not testify on September's deadly attack on four Americans in Benghazi, Libya.
	That was scheduled for next week.
	Oh, how inconvenient.
	I got this one.
	I got, wait.
	How inconvenient.
	I got the same report, only topped a little bit, because this has, this is the Hillary follow-up clip, this has yet another reason, and I've never heard this in my life, by the way, and I watch a lot of football, and you'd think somebody would have brought this up, this Sanjay Gupta information on one of these games, because these guys are having concussions left and right.
	I've never heard this about concussions.
	Let's bring back our chief medical correspondent, Dr.
	Sanjay Gupta, himself a neurosurgeon.
	The statement from the...
	He's a neurosurgeon now.
	Wait a minute.
	He was just a minute ago.
	He studies brains every day.
	Now he's a...
	Oh, my goodness.
	This guy is amazing.
	Doctors, it's pretty interesting.
	It goes beyond what the official State Department statement said.
	That's right.
	People have maybe seen this, but it says over the course of the week, they had evaluated her and ultimately determined that she had sustained a concussion.
	What this means, obviously, this didn't happen today.
	She had a fainting episode hit her head that happened earlier in the week, and then doctors examining her and determining that she had a concussion after that.
	And they're also saying no strenuous activity.
	Oftentimes they add to that, Wolf, which you may find interesting, This idea that you don't want to, you almost want to give the brain rest as well.
	The doctors will literally say, don't read anything, don't watch television, don't get on a computer.
	You really want to put the brain to rest for a while to allow the brain to recover from a concussion.
	Because the statement from the State Department, her spokesman, basically says she's working from home.
	The doctors are saying they strongly advise her to cancel all work events for the coming week.
	Supposed to appear before the House and the Senate this week on December 20th on the Benghazi killing of the four Americans, including the U.S. ambassador.
	State Department report is about to be released on what exactly happened.
	She obviously can't do that.
	Okay.
	She can't, there's another reason, you know, you could maybe make her go, but she can't think.
	She can't do that.
	She can't look at a computer.
	She can't look at a book.
	Well, it was interesting because I caught this, in relation to this, Chaffetz, He's the guy that we kind of like, this Chaffetz dude.
	Yeah, Chaffetz we like.
	Yeah, we kind of like him.
	So he's on, I think, Fox.
	Now, right after this Benghazi thing happened, we saw immediately that there were like 30 people who were also at this consulate who were flown off to Germany, and we never heard from them again.
	Right?
	It's like, you know, we never heard...
	Now, apparently, some of them were actually wounded, you know, but a lot of them, or all of them, were actual witnesses to the event.
	These people have not been interviewed.
	There's no press trying to get them.
	There's no international press.
	No, they've got to get them out of there.
	So, you know, and Chaffetz is now saying...
	Well, you know, I really would like to speak with them.
	And, of course, you know, he can't get access to them.
	But he kind of brings up multiple things.
	He brings up Hillary's not testifying.
	You know, basically she needed to fall down and hit her head.
	But also the convenient timing of Susan Rice saying, Oh, no, I don't think I should be Secretary of State.
	All of this is coming to a head at exactly the right moment because there's a little report that's due.
	Congressman Jason Chaffetz accusing the State Department of hiding survivors of, and witnesses to, the Benghazi terror attack.
	He says the State Department won't identify who they are or grant access to survivors who are still in the hospital.
	Congressman Chaffetz joins us.
	Good evening, sir.
	Hi, Greta.
	Now, I've done a little of some mathematics, and it looks like there were 20 Americans who evacuated from Benghazi.
	Have you had access to any of those 20 to ask them questions about what happened?
	Oh no, absolutely not.
	Now when I went to Libya, and I remember I went to Tripoli, I was able to visit with some people who there had first-hand knowledge.
	But we asked very specifically, not only about the four people that were killed, but who was injured, how many were injured, where are they today, and they have refused to do this.
	Three major television networks to help me in this quest, including Fox News and a couple other, again, part of the big networks.
	None of them have been given this information, and it's been typical when we have people killed in Iraq, Afghanistan, whatnot.
	Those names maybe are held for 48 hours, but we don't know how many there are.
	We don't know what states they're from.
	We don't know who these families are, and we would like to talk to them.
	Alright, as a House Republican, you're in the majority party.
	Why don't you just drop a subpoena on someone at the State Department to show up and ask that person under oath, who are the people who were evacuated from Benghazi and where are they?
	Believe me, I'm a little bit frustrated that we have not been issuing subpoenas.
	What we are waiting for, though, is the State Department to issue their report.
	Remember, they said they weren't going to offer any information until their Blue Ribbon Commission got done doing their work.
	They said that that would take 60 to 65 days.
	Well, now that we're closing in on month three, the State Department owes us a report.
	That's why I think Susan Rice made the announcement today, because I think we're on the verge of getting that report.
	But you're starting to see the State Department squirm a little bit.
	They're saying now, well, maybe we'll just give you the summary.
	Maybe Secretary Clinton might not come up.
	I think the report, if it's done accurately, is going to be a very difficult thing for the White House, the State Department, the Department of Defense and the CIA to explain.
	I'm optimistic, but I think that's why Susan Rice made the announcement today, and we want to get that report, and that should happen any day now.
	It's already late.
	So he didn't even know about Hillary falling down and pooping her hydration out, but he was already calling and saying, oh, she probably won't come up, she probably won't testify.
	This is all bad news.
	This is very, very bad news that's going on, and everyone's running away from it.
	Well, I mean, if we stay with our basic thesis, which I still think is the accurate one, where this was all staged as a pre-election scam to make the president or make our government look good in some way, shape, or form...
	I think all the elements of that are still in play, and in fact, it just keeps being reconfirmed.
	Now it's all about the cover-up, which is always what gets everybody into trouble.
	Always is, always is.
	So the cover-up will be a...
	Because at some point, you'd think the media, because it happened with Watergate.
	I mean, Watergate was the same thing.
	I remember that whole experience following it.
	And it was like, there was something fishy that went on, and it was no big deal, and don't worry about it.
	And they said for these two guys, one of them, a CIA guy for Woodward.
	Yeah, Woodward.
	He, well, according to the book, the family book of the Bushes, which is very well outlined.
	Family of Secrets.
	Family of Secrets very well outlined how Woodward got his positions as a writer.
	But he was, him and Bernstein went and they started digging and digging, but of course they also had somebody calling him and telling him stuff.
	Deep throat.
	And then they started developing a storyline that, you know, was kind of past, ah, bullcrap, nobody paid any attention to it.
	And I think a couple of things broke, and then the other papers got competitive, and the next thing you know, all hell breaks loose, and then...
	Within months and months, Nixon's crawling around, babbling, and he has to quit the job.
	Of course, a lot of that was believed to be a setup, too.
	In the book, Family of Secrets, by the way, I recommend everybody read that book.
	It is quite interesting.
	So, what was cool about Susan Rice as she's going around telling everybody...
	Well, actually, let me just...
	Here's her statement to NBC, and then I have a little interesting clip where Brian Williams, you know, the guy who used to do breast reduction and breast enhancement reports for Channel 4 in New York, is now the anchor and the pillar of news.
	Today I made the decision that it was the best thing for our country, for the American people, that I not continue to be considered by the President for nomination as Secretary of State because I didn't want to see a confirmation process that was very prolonged, very politicized, very distracting, and very disruptive because there are so many things we need to get done as a country.
	And the first several months of a second-term president's agenda is really the opportunity to get the crucial things done.
	We're talking about comprehensive immigration reform, balanced deficit reduction, job creation.
	That's what matters.
	And to the extent that my nomination could have delayed or distracted or deflected or made even some of these priorities impossible to achieve, I didn't want that.
	And I'd much prefer to continue doing what I'm doing, which is a job I love at the United Nations.
	Yeah, which of course gives you inside access to everything that's happening so you can make your investments in energy companies and pipelines accordingly so you can become incredibly wealthier than you already are.
	But here is the real question.
	Were you set up?
	Were you a victim?
	Oh crap, somehow I keep hitting the Q button.
	Sorry, hold on.
	Let me do that again.
	Were you set up?
	Were you a victim of circumstance?
	Yeah.
	Hillary sent me up!
	Bad data, bad information.
	Are you blameless in all this?
	Brian, I don't think anybody is ever wholly blameless, but I didn't do anything wrong.
	I didn't mislead.
	I didn't misrepresent.
	I did the best with the information the United States government had at the time.
	Wow.
	I love that.
	I love the question.
	Were you set up?
	She didn't answer it, of course, because we know she was.
	We have some executive producers to thank for today's show.
	Let me say this first.
	In the morning, John...
	Well, in the morning to you, Adam Curry, and in the morning to all ships and sea boots on the ground, subs in the water, feet in the air, and all the dames and knights out there who support the show on a week-to-week basis.
	I want to say hi to all of them.
	Yes, and I want to say in the morning to our crack team who are keeping us on the air, no matter where in the world we come from in exile.
	Of course, that would be Buzzkill Jr., Void Zero, Sir Gitmo Slave, and Mr.
	Oil.
	And in the morning to...
	All of the human resources in the chat room who are going nuts today.
	The chat room is just on fire with opinions.
	And a lot of that is very helpful to us.
	Some of it is just very irritating.
	Most of it to me.
	And also, thank you to Sir Nussbaum for the artwork on No Agenda, episode 469.
	I have to say, we feel that we're a little bit in trouble on the artwork.
	The past, I think was it two or three episodes, we have literally received like one entry for artwork.
	Yeah, so we have to go.
	Luckily, we have such a great backlog in Evergreens, and we encourage people to post those.
	But we need...
	We need current stuff.
	We need stuff to be updated.
	We need artists.
	We probably need to get some new artists, because I think these guys are getting tired.
	Let's get rid of these guys.
	They're no good.
	No, they get tired.
	We've seen this happen.
	We've had wave after wave of artists.
	They get a little competitive, and then they go back and forth and back and forth, and then the next thing you know, they get pooped.
	They're doing it as a service.
	And they get pooped and they say, you know, I'm sick of this.
	And they stop doing them.
	Or they get a job, some of them.
	Yeah, that's true.
	They don't have time to give us free art.
	Or some of them get arrested.
	Like our drone artist, our knight there from New Jersey.
	I haven't heard anything from him.
	I have no idea how he's doing.
	There was just an article in the paper yesterday.
	They got arrested.
	They threw the book at him.
	Apparently, you know, a million...
	You know, 35 counts of larceny and 38 counts of, you know, theft, because apparently when he put his poster in, he took the other one out, so that counts as theft, and it was felony theft.
	And somebody did the calculation on Metafilter, and it turns out that they...
	The only way they could get to these numbers is that it had to be worth a certain value.
	These posters that were in the box apparently cost $18 a pop, which seems unlikely.
	And the whole thing is that Bloomberg's fascist New York City essentially just has no sense of humor.
	No.
	No.
	Well, it's good work.
	I'd love to get one of those posters.
	Yeah, well, but we haven't heard from him, so I'm a little concerned.
	I hope he's okay.
	I think he's still in the slammer.
	We may have to bail him out ourselves.
	No, no, no.
	He made bail.
	I know he made bail.
	Oh, did he?
	Okay.
	Yeah, I just don't know what this current status is.
	They may not let him use a computer.
	I have no idea.
	Well, I hope he contacts me.
	So let's thank Sir Richard Bagwell from Palm Coast, Florida, who came in with a nice donation of 1234.56.
	Wow.
	Thanks for the best podcast.
	Sorry.
	Thanks for the best.
	The lone wolf in me just came out.
	Didn't mean to do that.
	Thanks for the best podcast.
	Be nervous and keep up the great work, guys.
	I'd like to ask for some job karma.
	Last time I asked for it, I lost my job.
	Second time we've had karma kick back.
	If it happens again, then I know karma hates me.
	Trying to get a barony, but I had to move.
	So does the barony follow you, or you just get awarded a plot of land like the old days?
	Yes, that's exactly what happens.
	The barony does not roam around.
	We give you a plot with coordinates, and that's yours.
	If you move away, it could get taken over by other forces.
	I was in the foothills of South Carolina.
	Now I'm stuck in Floridouche.
	Oh, Floridouche.
	And I can use that.
	And I'm headed even further south next year.
	I'll send a new address along for the ring.
	Thanks again.
	All right.
	Well, Sir Richard Bagwell, you betcha.
	Here is your karma.
	You've got karma.
	Carmen, I work in South Carolina.
	I serve DJ Anonymous in Calgary, home of the Stampede 500.
	Which I've been to.
	I've been to the Calgary Stampede.
	Yeah, you have.
	I haven't.
	I've always wanted to go.
	Some people say it's great.
	I have the belt buckle.
	And my favorite thing about the Calgary Stampede is the barrel run, I think it's called.
	You have the cute girls and the little ponies, and they race around these big barrels really, really fast.
	But the whole thing is just sexy.
	But it's called barrel racing.
	Yeah, that's it.
	Barrel racing.
	But these girls, you know, they're cute.
	They're just really smoking hot, these tight outfits.
	And then, you know, they've got the little ponies.
	They're all energetic and stuff.
	And the girls are just hot, smoking hot.
	It's great.
	The Calgary Stampede is awesome.
	You done now?
	Mm-hmm.
	Here's some cash to help out.
	The picture of Adam...
	I can just see you watching these girls driving those horses.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Adam budding by the...
	How did they do that?
	Adam huddling by the dumpster.
	Was it motivated this donation?
	Please give Adam and Mickey some home safety karma.
	No, get home safely.
	So did you see the person who took that picture and posted it on the internet with you with the cigarette?
	No, I haven't seen that one before.
	With me with a cigarette?
	You put a cigarette in your hands with a bunch of smoke coming out of it.
	No, I didn't see that.
	Well, I was not smoking.
	No, obviously.
	They saw the original picture.
	And it's get home safely karma, not get home safety karma.
	What kind of douche are you, man?
	Give me the proper karma, will you?
	Dammit.
	Home safety.
	Karma.
	Yeah.
	Well, this is not looking good, by the way.
	I mean, you know, so people want to know what's going on.
	I just have to let me explain it very briefly, that in order to get Miss Mickey back into the country while we wait for her green card, because of course, legally, she's allowed to have a green card.
	But these days, that is a four-month process.
	That's after you've been approved, by the way.
	So first, there's three months where you have to send in all this documentation, and you make a petition.
	And then you get the petition.
	The petition says, oh, okay, we'll allow you to request the green card.
	Then you go into the green card phase, which we had just started.
	Ms.
	Mickey, of course, had to travel for her artwork, for her art show, but they wouldn't allow her to come back in on a tourist visa.
	So we have to request an O-1 visa.
	We can do the O-1 visa and we're 99.9% sure that it'll all be okay.
	But you have to send in all these.
	And I'm not kidding.
	So first you have to pay the lawyer.
	Now believe me, the lawyer is $2,300 because the lawyer is a shyster.
	This is what he does.
	And then you've got to send another check for $1,550 for, oh, Department of Homeland Security.
	I kid you not.
	$1,550 to Department of Homeland Security for the expedited process.
	But you can't start the expedited process until you have a letter of no dispute from AMTP, the American...
	Motion Picture Television Production Association, who you also have to send a $250 check to.
	What have they got to do with it?
	They have to say that they have no objection to her coming into the country to work for in the industry.
	Because Mickey's an actor in this case.
	And then we have SAG, who also won a $250 administrative fee check.
	And then they also have to send a notice of no objection.
	So they haven't sent their letter back yet, and we can't do anything until we get all of the letters.
	So we got the AMTP letter.
	Once we get SAG, then we can put it in, and then because we paid the $1,515 to Janet Napolitano, then they have to respond within 15 business days.
	Business days, which is three weeks, and also when they're closed during the Christmas vacation.
	So we're going to be here until summer.
	There you go.
	So people wanted to know what was going on.
	There it is.
	And it's cute.
	It's great being in Amsterdam, but it's not the same as being home with our own stuff around us and not being looked at by everywhere we go and being in a very small space.
	There you go.
	Anyway, thank you so much for the karma, Sir DJ Anonymous.
	The home safety karma is highly appreciated.
	Did you...
	Hit the karma button.
	I did.
	I did.
	We took the karma.
	We're on to Mike.
	Mike Keeler in Lost Wages, Nevada.
	Nuts.
	369.69.
	I think this should qualify me for a knighthood.
	Apparently so.
	You're going to get it later.
	Yep.
	And he wants a little karma for the economy.
	That'll really help.
	You've got karma.
	And for those of you in the chat room who don't understand it, believe me, you can't keep, no matter what you do, you cannot keep coming into the United States as a tourist.
	At a certain point they say, you're not a tourist.
	And she's not!
	But then if you're going through a green card process, you shouldn't leave the country because you don't want to be a tourist.
	I mean, it's effed.
	Ever since 9-11, the process is...
	I'm embarrassed for my country.
	I'm embarrassed that the President of the United States just gave 139,000 illegal immigrants a stay of deportation and my wife can't come into the country.
	The whole thing is effed.
	Fake crybaby.
	Mofo.
	Sorry.
	We're done?
	Yeah.
	Anthony Leone in Catskill, New York, 22113.
	He'll be an associate executive producer.
	It was a great sigh of relief, he says, that my No Agenda Knighthood has been achieved this past December 4th with my 30th, 3333 No Agenda Boarding Pass donation just in time for the apocalypse.
	I know that normally you guys chip in the penny.
	However, on the occasion of the apocalypse, I decided to add 22113 to bring myself to a total of 122112, Night of the Apocalypse.
	Nice!
	Nice one!
	Yeah, I like the Night of the Apocalypse.
	Night of the Apocalypse, yeah, it's good.
	122112, okay, we'll put that in the next newsletter as an option.
	This is a title one can have for only a short while.
	Yeah, there's an apocalypse.
	You get it for a week.
	You get laid for about one day.
	Hey, baby, I'm a knight of the apocalypse.
	Oh, great.
	Let's hurry up.
	On the unlikely chance that the world does not end this coming week, I'll keep paying you guys.
	Keep talking.
	And the descent into madness is just a little easier.
	Please.
	Yeah.
	You know, the thing is, I talked to...
	We discuss this at JC, Buzzkill Jr., every so often.
	We try to make the ludicrous nature of the modern world and the news slightly humorous.
	Yeah, we try.
	Yeah.
	So you don't get depressed.
	Somebody wrote me and said, your podcast is depressing.
	I'm not listening anymore.
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	Well, then you're not getting the joke.
	You're not getting the joke.
	He needs Sherman called out as a douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	And give us some karma.
	Okay, thank you so much.
	You've got karma.
	And finally, our buddy Sir Dean Bertram there in Ghana, 2-12-17, and he just wants a birthday shout-out for Donna, who's 14.
	Okay.
	Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, he says.
	Happy New Year!
	And that would be it for our show 470.
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	Remind people to go to noagendashow.com, noagendarnation.com, also dvorak.org slash NA, which is the primary donation site, and also channeldvorak.com slash NA if you can't get there for some reason, although we haven't had too many reports of that of late.
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	You can actually use them at SAG. Now, I'm not saying that they're going to get you a letter any sooner that you need to get into the country, but they are actual credits.
	And unlike the phonies in Hollywood, we're the ones that will actually vouch for you.
	And of course, you can always go out and propagate our formula.
	Our formula is this.
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	What was that little thing at the end?
	That was Batman.
	Oh.
	And we have, you know, this...
	Yes, citizen.
	Don't be alarmed.
	We're here on official business.
	We're here in official business to assassinate the media citizen.
	Wait, here's one for you.
	Here's one for you.
	Yes.
	Oh, hold on.
	For some reason, my hands are, like, a little weird today, and I keep hitting the Q button.
	I'm going to try this.
	Yes, citizen, you may return to your harpsichord.
	Oh, man.
	Let me just blow out some racial crap here for a second.
	So we know that Susan Rice withdrew and she was on the Rachel Maddow show.
	Andrea Mitchell was on the Rachel Maddow.
	Now, Andrea Mitchell, she's like a senior correspondent or something.
	She's like the muckety-muck of Washington for NBC or MSNBC. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	No, NBC. Yeah.
	And she's married to?
	Yeah, she's married to some douche, right?
	Greenspan!
	Oh, of course!
	That's why she always gets to say whatever she wants.
	So here's report number one where she has to pull all racial cards.
	I'll bring in NBC's chief foreign affairs correspondent, Andrea Mitchell.
	Andrea, what are you hearing about Susan Rice?
	She's married to Greenspan, that old dude?
	We talked about it.
	You always are surprised every time we discuss this.
	We've done it at least four times.
	Greenspan's like a hundred years old, isn't he?
	Yeah, and he talks like this.
	She's beat up, but she's hot for him.
	That's a real catch for him.
	Withdrawing her name.
	Well, I think that this had become sort of an impossible challenge for her to be confirmed, that she realized that.
	The White House realized it as well.
	I think they know that they are on good, political, solid ground, as you were just pointing out.
	This is not going to be, this is not going to help Republicans at all.
	The fact that a woman and a woman of color has been forced out of a confirmation process even before she was nominated.
	This is so horrible, the things she's saying.
	A woman, a woman of color?
	It's like, yeah, it's because everyone else in the world hates black women.
	This is clear what it is.
	By the way, before she was nominated, and then Rice comes out and goes on and on as if she's already been nominated.
	Obama himself says he hasn't made any decisions or considerations.
	I can say the same thing about my wife.
	You know Mimi, who's a woman?
	She's been taken out of the running?
	Yeah, yeah.
	We're Secretary of State.
	That's right.
	It's horrible.
	That is just...
	That's because she's a woman, man.
	And she's a woman of color.
	This is horrible.
	Actually, she's part Indian, so she is a woman of color.
	Oh!
	Do you guys get subsidy?
	No, we're working on it.
	It doesn't seem to be working out.
	So now...
	Peace of the casino action.
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	Welcome to the Dvorak Casino.
	Rien ne va plus.
	Place your bets, please.
	So here's Andrew Mitchell.
	Then she goes on the Rachel Maddow show, just to ratchet it up a little bit.
	Very, very well qualified.
	So I think that...
	Having opposed a woman and a woman of color, given what they've just experienced in this presidential election, I think the conclusion in the White House is that Republicans will pay a higher price.
	But a lot of Democrats are saying that the president did not show enough loyalty.
	A lot of women in the administration are very angry, and I'm saying this at a very high level.
	So she's very, very, very high level.
	Women are angry.
	They're angry because now this is where it gets interesting, John.
	The president didn't back her up.
	So not only is he a fake crybaby mofo, he's a liar.
	Because he said, remember what he said?
	He said, you want to pick on someone your own size?
	Because I'm going to take care of her.
	People seem to have forgotten that.
	Angry because they feel that she was not treated with respect, she was not given the support she needed, and she was left to twist in the wind.
	Twist in the wind!
	Angry with whom, though?
	Angry with the White House.
	And with the boss, with the president, for not being willing to fight this out.
	What do you think happened there?
	I mean, so now it starts to come clear.
	Wait, hold on a second.
	Wasn't Rice the one who said she's taken herself out of the race?
	Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah.
	Well, how does any of this apply?
	If she took herself out of the race, are they implying that she was forced out?
	No, I think literally.
	What are they saying?
	I don't get it.
	Explain.
	Well, here's some more.
	Back down in the face of a challenge from a Republican minority after having won a re-election victory.
	And most people in the foreign policy community understand that as qualified as John Kerry is, and he's superbly qualified, he was trained, he lived for this post, he's the son of a diplomat.
	I love that.
	John Kerry is superbly qualified because he's an incredible douchebag.
	He's the son of a diplomat.
	He married into the richest family in the world.
	He has a head as big as a watermelon.
	I think he's extremely qualified to be a douchebag.
	And clearly wanted this job and will get this job.
	Are they blaming him now?
	No.
	He clearly wanted the job, and now he's getting the job.
	They add two and two, dummy.
	He's going to get this job.
	I think something else is going.
	I remember she's at the top echelon.
	She's at the top echelon.
	She's got inside information, John.
	She's got information.
	Something else is going on.
	They needed Susan Rice in that position for some reason that they're not telling us now.
	I'm guessing because she's really adamant about this.
	What difference does it make?
	What difference does it make that they would get this worked up?
	Well, let's go back to the original assessment.
	The original assessment from the Curry-Devorak Consulting Group was that Hillary Clinton set Susan Rice up for this fall.
	Now, you know, clearly she needed the buffer zone for the whole Benghazi thing, which is why she now is pooping and, you know, and hitting her head and can't testify.
	Which is going to get all wrapped up and it'll be Christmas and it'll be New Year's and then it'll be, pfft, we've forgotten and then we'll have another crazy gunman and then, you know, no one will care anymore.
	So she's going to get out of that.
	So, you know, I think that this was always carries to have from day one, and the president didn't want Susan Rice, and so he just, I'm telling you, the guy is a crybaby lying mofo.
	He went up there and said, pick on someone your own side.
	He didn't mean that.
	He didn't mean it.
	And Andrea Mitchell, she just, in order to be on the Rachel Maddow show, she just has to say, sexism, racism!
	She just has to do that.
	It's just part of the NBC rulebook.
	Well, this is very suspicious.
	I mean, who cares?
	Why would Andrea Mitchell or anybody else care that Susan Rice has got, gee, in a political situation where one person gets a job that the other person wanted or the other person quits a job they could have had but they got aced out for some reason, some political reason or otherwise.
	Why does anybody that's in the news media, why are they so invested that she would come out and talk like this unless something else was going on that they're not telling us?
	Well, I think there's also still a general news media move to discredit every single Republican in the universe.
	I think that's still in there.
	And call them out as old, racist white dudes.
	There is still the war on white dudes.
	Yeah, but that's been going on forever.
	It's really ratcheted up.
	The war on old white dudes is pretty big now.
	It's popular.
	We got a war on white fat dudes.
	This was my favorite.
	So, of course, Hillary will have a miraculous recovery within the next four years.
	She'll look great.
	She'll get her facelift done.
	Another one.
	She's going to be so prepared for 2016.
	But, of course, we've already got to start getting rid of the white dude who she'll be running against, which more than likely would be Chris Christie.
	So how are we going to do that?
	Well, obviously, he's unhealthy.
	Look, if he runs for president, Jonathan, the version of where are his tax returns is going to be.
	Let's see your medical records.
	That's going to be the constant.
	and let's see these checkups all the time.
	Dr. Lawrence K. Altman, a long time New York Times reporter.
	Who used to do this.
	Who's a doctor who is a piranha when it comes to stuff.
	And this would return in a hurry.
	It would be relentless.
	You can see guys like him and also the rest of the press corps saying it, right?
	Show us the records.
	What was your last doctor visit?
	You know, blood pressure, et cetera, et cetera.
	And I do think that...
	Okay.
	Yeah.
	Clip of the day.
	I don't have anything to beat that one.
	I don't think it was all that good.
	No, no, no, it was.
	Believe me, take my word for it.
	Alright, I'll take it.
	Thank you very much.
	There's still 42 seconds on it.
	Yeah, we'll keep playing.
	I think the idea has been established.
	Yeah, but it's just kind of funny to keep hearing him say it.
	Or into where we have calorie counts on menus, where McDonald's is sort of losing value, Greek yogurt is taking off.
	We're sort of in this sort of more health-focused era.
	People are more cognizant of obesity issues at this point than they've been in a long, long time.
	I think that could be a factor as well.
	But you're absolutely right, Chuck.
	This will be the obsession in terms of...
	It'll be his tax returns, essentially.
	In terms of...
	And that answer won't...
	That answer...
	That's not an answer that would happen.
	The truth of the matter is, it's not ridiculous.
	Ultimately, the health and well-being of the president, who you pick for vice president...
	I mean, you're electing some of the most powerful person in the world.
	Listen, you fat bastard.
	You can't be president, fat boy.
	That can't happen.
	You're going to die.
	Oh, man.
	I'm telling you.
	It's so weird to be here where everyone is still zombified.
	You have no idea.
	I mean, in America, we have, you know...
	Well, that's not entirely true, of course.
	But here, it's hard to explain.
	But people really...
	They're all in, what you're saying.
	They are kind of all in, but they're hiding from it because they know that there's something going on.
	I can feel that, but they just don't want to know.
	They're just like, ah, you're putting your fingers in here, like, ah, I didn't hear, I didn't hear, I didn't hear it.
	Okay.
	Like, no, no, it's not true.
	It's not happening.
	It's not happening.
	And it's very surreal.
	It really is.
	Because in America, you can still start up a conversation with someone and go, like, hey, these guys are crazy.
	They're ripping us off.
	And the people go, like, yeah, man, yeah, yeah, they're ripping us off.
	But here it's like...
	Let's have another beer.
	Have some blue wine.
	We're being scammed.
	We're being scammed.
	And a good American will go, hell yeah, bastards scamming us.
	But here it's just like, I don't want to know.
	They're hopeless.
	That's why they keep getting into these stupid wars.
	They get convinced that they should be in.
	Well, we're in the war.
	Oh, by the way.
	Yeah, but it's a different deal.
	We're the empire.
	Come on.
	So, NATO has decided to send two Patriot missile batteries to Turkey to defend against, you know, obviously the evil Syrian Scud missiles.
	And to whom falls this responsibility amongst NATO? The Dutch.
	It is actually a Dutch Patriot battery, two batteries, which just looks like two trucks essentially with some tubes on it.
	And they're sending that with 400 troops, I might add, to Syria.
	And so our Prime Minister here, Ritter, went to be praised by the Secretary General of NATO. And I just have a little clip here to talk about, you know, as he is praising the Dutch.
	This shows the value and importance the Netherlands places on its membership in NATO, and we are very grateful for all your contributions.
	We know they are made despite difficult economic times.
	In fact, the Netherlands is leading the way on smart defense.
	Smart defense.
	This is a new one to me.
	A new name.
	Smart defense.
	Smart defense.
	You'll scam patriot missiles that don't work.
	Well, no, apparently...
	No, apparently the Dutch have been able to scam their own population into thinking that they're doing all of this stuff for NATO for nothing, just on a shoestring budget.
	This enables you to use your defense budget more efficiently.
	Of the 22 multinational projects which we approved at the Chicago Summit this year, you participate in no less than 17.
	That is remarkable, and we are very grateful for that.
	Very good, Dutch boy.
	Very good.
	17 of the 22, no less, on your shoestring budget under austerity, where the people can no longer deduct their housing interest expenses, where they have to work longer, shut up, slave, retire when you're 70.
	Just shut up, shut up, shut up.
	But very good.
	You're working well for NATO with your little patriot missiles.
	Very, very good.
	Very good.
	Did they change the retirement age to 70?
	No, it's not 70, but it's 67.
	It's like everywhere else.
	They upped it a couple of years.
	Yeah, they moved everybody up.
	And then he talked about the scudge, which I thought was kind of interesting.
	The scudge?
	The scudds.
	Scudds.
	Scudds.
	I think it's better.
	The scudge.
	The scudge.
	In other words, no missiles hit neighboring territory.
	We can't confirm details of the missiles, but some of the information indicates they were Scot-type missiles.
	The use of such indiscriminate weapons shows utter disregard for the lives of the Syrian people.
	I find this very interesting.
	So what he's saying is because they are SCUD missiles, which are unguided, which are not like, you know, the sophisticated stuff that we got, that NATO has.
	It's like the V2 rocket that the Germans use in World War II. It's like you show no regard for human life because you're not like taking out, you know, people specifically.
	You're just letting these things fly.
	I mean, you're a horrible, horrible man.
	As opposed to us who, you know, we just hit a wedding and we get the dude and a couple of other people.
	I mean, it's just, it's amazing how the ease with which the elites talk about death and destruction and cry for children.
	My clip is from Russia Today, which changes the angle just a little bit on the Patriot missiles in Turkey.
	It's a little straightforward.
	Tehran has warned NATO of triggering a world war by deploying Patriot missiles on Turkey's volatile border with Syria.
	It called on the military alliance to reverse its decision to station the defense system there.
	NATO promised earlier this month to provide manned missile batteries in order to shield Turkey from possible cross-border aggression.
	Right.
	Just that simple.
	World war.
	Yeah, oh yeah, it's coming.
	It's good and it's necessary because we need to clean up some people.
	We need to get the war machine going.
	It's just unfortunate it's going to be here.
	So, kind of interesting, kind of a side topic that hasn't been covered by the media at all.
	I didn't even know about it.
	In fact, I was very interested in this.
	The guy, Gordon Smith, who's the head of the NAB, National Association of Broadcasters, brought it up on a C-SPAN show.
	Yeah.
	And I didn't even know this was going on.
	Play the clip, FCC trying to kill broadcast TV. Oh, boy.
	Wait a minute.
	This is something new.
	The FCC has said that it wants to move rapidly towards holding incentive auctions in 2014, while your group has expressed concerns that if the commission rushes the process, that it might not be done right.
	Can you elaborate a little bit on the worries there?
	Well...
	You know, the way they're constructing this is they're going to say to broadcasters, how many at this price would volunteer to go out of business?
	And they'll see who raised their hands, and then they'll say to the buying community, how many will buy at that price?
	And no one will know who is doing what but them in the middle.
	And then when they find out, Well, we don't need that spectrum.
	Okay, how about this lower price?
	How many will sell for this and how many will buy for that?
	And they'll try to come up with a patchwork model that clears a band for them.
	The other side of this, which is concerning to us, is, of course, a lot of towers will have to be moved.
	It's part of the repackaging of television stations.
	And that is, if this is not done correctly, you know, the DTV transition went from analog to digital.
	That'll look like Sunday school class compared to the complexity of this.
	And millions will be disenfranchised from television.
	Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
	Let me understand.
	So...
	Why are the broadcast television stations going away?
	I didn't quite understand the auction thing in the beginning.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, that's right.
	You didn't.
	In fact, who knew anything of this was going on?
	Let's take a look at a couple of things that have happened.
	First of all, we went from analog to digital, which changed the structure and the kind of spectrum needs of every broadcaster.
	Many stations, like Channel 7 locally, a lot of them, they get their old chunk back in terms of bandwidth, so they have three channels.
	They have their HD channel, and they've got two other secondary channels.
	They're trying to rest control, or the government actually would like to get terrestrial broadcasting.
	This is my theory at this point.
	Because of this auction, this crazy auction, they're going to try to grab back some of the spectrum because a lot of people aren't using it.
	I mean, we have a couple of stations that they use, you know, they got their three channels, the big networks, and they use one of them and two of them are the same thing, that they don't need, that they're redundant.
	Right.
	Or one of them is just playing weather 24-7.
	So they're going to see if they can get that spectrum back.
	They wouldn't have said that they were going to try this stunt before they went from analog to digital, but that's what they're trying to do.
	Now this...
	Triggered a thought in me because right now in the San Francisco Bay Area, there is a lawsuit going on that's been in the process for five years by a bunch of individuals, and you can look this up.
	It's a lawsuit over that second and whatever street it is where that AT&T building is.
	Right, right.
	The NSA has.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, second street.
	There's a big building, and the NSA apparently has half of it, and all the Internet traffic is being cached, and I don't know where they're doing with it all, but they're putting it somewhere.
	Right.
	So they're getting sued over this.
	Essentially, it's obvious that the government would love to get rid of anything that they don't have instant control of.
	In other words, the internet switch, where they can just shut down all communications.
	Right now, you can't shut down all these radio stations.
	Oh, okay.
	I see what you're saying.
	So the idea is to have everything run through IP, everything run through Second Street, essentially, so that there's total control over every type of communication from any point A to citizenry point B. Right.
	So let's encourage more cable TV and more of these things that we can do as a way to control.
	It's hard to control broadcasting.
	In fact, the old rule was in South America when you were going to start a revolution, the first thing you do is take over the radio station and then announce that you are now the new leaders.
	Wait a minute.
	So this is exactly why we need to protect our hams.
	This is why the new agenda hams is going to be extremely...
	You know, we can do slow scan television.
	We can actually do this stuff.
	Don't be knocking at the door, but you can do it, yes.
	Hello!
	Can I tell you something?
	So I only had my rig for like three days or four days before I had to leave to come and swoop in and be with my bride.
	I really miss my HF rig.
	I really miss doing the long disc.
	I had just gotten into it.
	I had like three days of communicating on the digital stuff with Germany and with Cuba and with Canada.
	It was really amazing what you can do with this ham radio stuff and now I don't have it anymore.
	And I think you're still licensed since you're a general for many of the bands that are available in Holland.
	Yeah, I did bring my two meter set, but you can barely hit any repeaters from where I am right now.
	It's not the same infrastructure, but I can operate...
	Here under my license.
	It's just I don't have a rig.
	Maybe some local ham will help you.
	Sit you down.
	Let me finish this.
	Let me try to summarize what it was that was confusing.
	Apparently in 2014 the FCC has decided that we'd like to get some of this spectrum back.
	And we have buyers over here, you know, AT&T or whoever they are, that would like to have some of this spectrum.
	For like 4G stuff?
	Like 4G stuff?
	Yeah, 4G or whatever.
	Whatever they're going to use it for, maybe nothing.
	Whatever the case is, this is prime spectrum because it has long distances.
	The reason that the broadcasting, the TV broadcasting, was put where it was because at the time, You know, before we could do all this fancy stuff and we had all these repeaters and microwaves of different sorts, this was the most effective band you could have for shooting a long ways from one antenna.
	Right.
	So now, so they decided, here's what we're going to do.
	Any broadcaster out there that owns one of these, even though you're still licensed and we could probably just cheat you and take your license away, but that would show up as a bad thing.
	We're going to ask you, do you want to sell out?
	Do you want to just sell out?
	Give up.
	Give up.
	Just give up.
	ABC in the San Francisco Bay Area.
	You want to just give up.
	We'll take those three stations from you.
	How much money do you want?
	What is it worth?
	What is it worth right now for you to just walk?
	Right.
	And that's the auction.
	And they said, well, it's probably worth...
	That's the auction.
	It's not much of an auction.
	Okay, it's worth five billion bucks.
	You can have it.
	And so they take that bid and they go to their secret bidders.
	They won't say who it is, which is kind of weird.
	They say, okay, these guys will give up this whole thing for five billion.
	Can you afford it?
	Yeah, we'll pay five.
	Okay.
	Or they would say, no, we can't.
	We can pay four.
	They'd go back to the ABC guys and say, four billion and you're out of here.
	You're out of the Bay Area.
	You're just giving up to these guys.
	You can run cable.
	Obviously, you can still go through the cable system.
	And the whole thing is just screw the public.
	There are almost 20 million people in the United States that rely on terrestrial broadcasting.
	They don't have cable.
	They don't have satellite.
	They don't have the dish network.
	Those things are expensive.
	This whole thing is bad.
	It's funny, if you look here, in the Netherlands, there is, well, they do have digitene, so they have some kind of digital set-top box you can get, but pretty much everyone has cable, and it's been that way for as long as I can remember.
	That's the ideal.
	Yeah, it's a great way to control everybody.
	Wow.
	Yeah, no, this broadcasting thing was a bad idea.
	You know, I think we need to set up a ham radio bulletin board system, a BBS, where you connect over the ham radio and you can post a message.
	Good idea.
	And then you disconnect and someone else can connect.
	Remember those?
	Remember the old BBSs?
	I ran one of those.
	Tell me you didn't run a BBS back in your day.
	You know, the funny thing was I had all the BBS software.
	I reviewed it all.
	I could have.
	It's just I never liked the idea of having all those phone lines coming in.
	To do it right, you needed like dozens of phone lines.
	No, no, no.
	You just had one phone line.
	Oh, well, that's ridiculous.
	You had one phone line, and it would kick the guy off after like 10 minutes.
	You wanted lots of phone lines.
	Yeah.
	I was a kid.
	I didn't have lots of phone lines.
	It makes sense.
	Can you turn your speaker down just a tad, John?
	I'm having trouble filtering out the slap back.
	If I can get my computer to come back up, there it is.
	So here's a question for you.
	Wow, it's crazy.
	It's like slapping back really loud.
	I've got it down to nothing.
	I can't barely hear you now.
	Well, that's too bad.
	How's that?
	That's good, I guess.
	So if you run a company, an American company, and a terrorist wants to utilize your services, you can't do that, right?
	What?
	Well, let's say we have a consulting group.
	What?
	We got an offer from some terrorist?
	I wish.
	I wish.
	So let's say you have an online service, for example.
	Now, can a terrorist use your online service if you're an American company?
	Is that legal?
	Or should that be illegal?
	Or how does that work?
	It depends on the terms of service.
	I think it should be clearly written in the terms of service that no terrorist can use the service.
	When a terrorist organization or any organization is designated as a foreign terrorist outfit or any individual is designated as a foreign terrorist outfit, So this is the State Department press briefing, and the question is exactly that.
	If you've got a terrorist organization, are they allowed to open up an account with Facebook or Google, even though they're terrorists?
	Well, can I answer the question before you play the real answer?
	Of course, of course.
	Well, from what I understand, yes, because they have the same rights and privileges of anybody else, and I think they do have Facebook pages.
	That's the other reason.
	FTO, any U.S. organization, citizens, are banned for having an introduction with them?
	Well, when...
	Activity is sanctioned.
	It does give the U.S. government broad latitude to talk to our companies about the way the sanctions are to be implemented.
	So each case is different, and we evaluate each case individually.
	There are, as you can imagine, circumstances where it might be advantageous for accounts to stay open.
	I'm not going to go any further than that.
	So the answer is, well, we have continuous contact with the government and Facebook, and they continuously tell us when they have terrorists signing up, and then we'll just change the rules for them only because we want to spy on their accounts.
	Oh, and by the way, we might do that for anybody.
	For anybody.
	That's exactly what the answer is.
	Yeah, yeah.
	They don't want these guys going into the dark.
	Don't go away.
	Don't go away.
	Stay on Facebook, please.
	Exactly.
	They're literally saying, well, you know, you can't do that, but, you know, is it Facebook?
	People, you have to understand that you are being spied on all the time.
	You know, so I made a big mistake.
	Well, maybe it's not a mistake.
	So Mike Elgin, who was so nice, you know, and he's a producer of the show, and he posted such nice things about us.
	So I go on this Google Plus.
	Have you ever been on this Google Plus thing?
	Yeah, yeah, I've got a Google Plus account.
	Okay, so here's what you might not want to do.
	So I go on the Google Plus thing.
	And then I see, you know, and I'm like, oh, how does this thing work?
	And like, and we've got circles and squares and whatever.
	And then I see I'm in 7,000 circles.
	Are you in any circles?
	Yeah, I'm in a couple.
	Well, I'm in 7,000 circles.
	And I say, okay, good for you.
	But I say, oh, wow, I'm in 7,000 circles.
	And then all of a sudden I start to get all these messages and You've got to turn that off.
	You can turn that off.
	Turn it off.
	It all went to my email.
	I got like a million things.
	Huge problem.
	But then everyone's like, this is great, and this is going to be fantastic.
	And I'm like, I don't really see the value.
	I mean, what is really great?
	Elgin actually is a maven on this thing, and he's convinced.
	And I think he somehow makes money.
	What?
	Oh, wow.
	Now you've got my interest.
	How do we make money on the Google Plus thing?
	He's got some, you know, I've always wanted to take him aside or hang out with him and have him show me exactly what he's doing.
	But he's got some, he's got some, I don't know what, he somehow makes money on, through his milking Google Plus.
	I don't know what he does.
	Well, then we have to figure this out.
	Because, you know, I get all these like, oh, you have 20 new notifications.
	And I get like, you got plus one.
	What plus one?
	You got plus one on your comment.
	Plus one.
	Plus three on your post.
	The whole thing is idiotic.
	It's a time sink.
	But people are really happy.
	They're like, oh, it's so great to have you here.
	But I don't understand.
	I don't get the benefit of it.
	I just don't see it.
	Will somebody please send Adam a memo explaining the benefits of Google+.
	No!
	Adam at Curry.com.
	He will read it.
	It's plus Adam Curry.
	Yeah.
	Don't send it to plus Adam Curry.
	You'll never find it.
	That's the thing.
	It's like, what am I looking at here?
	And then everywhere I go, it's like I'm on YouTube and then I see like...
	Essentially Twitter on steroids.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, is that it?
	If you don't like Twitter, you won't like this.
	Well, I like Twitter, but it's just...
	I don't know.
	But the thing is, you post something, and then you get these notifications, and then it's like...
	It's just like, all of a sudden, I've lost an hour in the day of Google+.
	I'm like, I need my hour back.
	I mean, I have not...
	I just have not gotten any huge benefit other than, hey, I think it's great.
	We have 700 people in the No Agenda community circle.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And they all want you.
	Yeah, I think you're a moderator.
	I am.
	I'm a brown shirt.
	Yeah, I am too, I believe, although I never...
	You should come in there.
	They're going to want to do a...
	That's not a meet-up.
	It's called a...
	What the hell is it called?
	A hang-out.
	A hang-out.
	Yeah.
	You're going to have a hang-out and have a video hang-out.
	Hey, man.
	Hey, man.
	Listen.
	Hey, you know what you can do?
	You know what you can do?
	What?
	You can hang out.
	Let's go there and hang out and kick some people off, you and I. You hang out, and then you say hi, and you say, what are you doing?
	I want you and I to go in there and kick people off of the hangout.
	Kick people off.
	Say, hey, man.
	Out!
	Out!
	Some of the Nazis that are in Leo's room, don't do that.
	So of the three days that I've been spending an hour a day in the Google Hangout circle, there was only one thing that I got that was of any value.
	One thing that was of value.
	And that was a story from, it was an old story from 2007, but I did like it very much.
	It was a story from Bloomberg about the Robin Hood Foundation.
	The Robin Hood Foundation, of course, is what I have identified as these scammers who put on this show, or a number of shows a year, and they have $140 or $150 million, of which they invest half of it.
	um And, you know, it just doesn't seem like it's really benefiting the people that's supposed to benefit directly.
	So I get this story from 2007 from Bloomberg where there were questions in Congress about the Robin Hood Foundation.
	Oh!
	Oh, here it is.
	The main concern from Congress, half the money in the Robin Hood Foundation is invested in hedge funds run by Robin Hood donors or board members who get paid the industry standard fee of 2% of assets and 20% of profits for managing the donations.
	So I'm like, wow, of course it makes so much sense.
	That's why everyone's all...
	Remember we were like, brought to you by Chase and Jamie Dimon and everyone's in there and we see all these tens of millions of dollars invested in all these different funds.
	Now I understand.
	They're taking your money.
	They invested in hedge funds.
	The same people who are taking your money and are on the board, they are taking the 2% fee.
	Let me see.
	$100 million.
	2% is $2 million and 20% of any profits.
	They're taking that right off the top.
	Hey, these guys are great.
	Well, they're smarter than we are.
	And then all of a sudden, we get Diane Thoyer, who has a report.
	There was an epic concert, a pantheon of rock legends.
	A pantheon of rock legends.
	Gathering to raise money for those hardest hit by Hurricane Sandy.
	That sounds pretty off-key, by the way.
	It doesn't sound very good.
	Two billion people around the globe.
	Two billion people around the globe.
	No, they didn't.
	Diane Sawyer, you're high.
	Okay, $30 million raised in ticket sales.
	But those suffering from Sandy were also promised a lot of help from the U.S. government.
	And that money is stalled in Congress.
	So ABC's David Curley decided to find out why.
	So this is really great.
	So there's a $60 billion package that has been put together, but it turns out the whole thing is filled with pork.
	Hey.
	Hey.
	What?
	Hey.
	Hey.
	Just to show you that we are the land of equal opportunity.
	We screwed over the Haitians.
	We can screw over ourselves, too.
	We're fair.
	This is fair.
	We screw the Haitians.
	Now we can screw ourselves.
	Oh, we got Americans having trouble.
	Ah, screw them.
	We already saw this with Katrina, by the way.
	So why is this a big shock to you?
	Well, this is a little different.
	Because this is not money that people...
	They only raise $30 million, so they say, for the stupid concert.
	This is $60 billion, with a B, $60 billion in government funding that is supposed to go to help people rebuild.
	But instead, listen to what is really in the package.
	Six weeks after Sandy in Long Beach, New York, Janet Peters and her elderly mother are still dealing with this, wondering, who's helping?
	No one can tell you where that new money is slated for.
	No one seems to have any answers.
	With the hospital still down, the water and sewer system not fixed, the city manager worries his local economy will tank.
	It's just crucial that we get these funds right away.
	Every day that goes by that we're not actively repairing this critical infrastructure is a scary and a sad day for us.
	Which is why three governors...
	We're not going to allow any political forces in Washington, D.C. to divide and conquer us.
	The governor wants $5 billion to rebuild homes, $8 billion to rebuild businesses.
	But the Sandy package, totaling $60 billion, is stuck in Washington.
	Republicans accusing the president of loading up the bill with millions not related to the storm.
	So here's a little overview.
	$23 million for tree plantings.
	$2 million to repair the roof of the Smithsonian Institute in Washington, D.C. $4 million to repair sand berms and dunes at the Kennedy Space Center in Florida, which I don't think was affected that badly.
	At all?
	$41 million to clean up and repairs at eight military bases along the storm's path, including Guantanamo Bay.
	Ha ha ha!
	And the FBI wants $4 million to replace vehicles, laboratory, and office equipment and furniture, including another $2.4 million to replace destroyed or damaged vehicles, which include mobile x-ray machines.
	I think it's crazy.
	It's absolutely crazy how we are able to take, even for our own citizens, how we're able to take a disaster and steal money from the good people.
	Steal money.
	No wonder people...
	Horrible x-rays?
	Those are those things that they drive around and they x-ray you.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	They x-ray your house.
	And you're paying for it, stupid shittisons.
	Yes, citizen.
	Don't be alarmed.
	We're here on official business.
	To steal you.
	To rob you blind.
	That's what we're here to do.
	I'm going to show myself old by donating to no agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
	They're robbing you!
	Well, at least we have some people that are donating to help this show continue.
	And I want to thank them, starting with Jaap Geelhoed.
	Geelhoed.
	Geelhoed.
	Yellow hat.
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	1, 2, 3, 2, 1.
	For my smoking hot Brazilian baby who seems to always be coming to the Netherlands when Adam is here.
	Coincidence?
	I think what?
	For Solomarco, who always listens while watching porn, stimulate both parts of the brain simultaneously.
	To Eric, who will be donating after the 21st of December 2012.
	That's actually a good policy if you don't want to give us all the rest of your money because the world ends.
	And Atlas Shrug Plus News Flash or Shoe Throwing Karma.
	Yeah, I got that for you.
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	By the way, you can go over and see him.
	He's right down the street.
	Yeah, and his smoking hot girlfriend from Brazil.
	Yeah, go check it out.
	Gerald Gionet.
	I think.
	Gionet.
	Gionet.
	GNA is the way it should be pronounced.
	I was unable to highlight the fact that I've achieved knighthood status in March.
	So I canceled the subscription and said 6666, but screwed up, and missed adding the message.
	I need karma for my daughter, Amber, who is going through a rough period in her life.
	We'd be happy to give that.
	And of course, his donation comes out to Niner, Niner, Niner, Niner.
	Niner, Niner, Niner, Niner, Niner!
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	For Amber, some karma.
	Ion Prentiss.
	Ian.
	Consulting.
	In Montreal, Quebec.
	I'd say Ian Prentiss, not Ion.
	Ian, not Ion.
	Ian.
	$99.99 again.
	$99.99!
	And here we go.
	No Agenda Karma works at my company.
	At my company Christmas, there was a draw for gifts.
	When they were drawing the largest gift, I thought to myself, time to use my No Agenda Karma.
	And I won an iPad!
	Yay!
	So time to get some more karma and a Parliament mumble to keep me warm while I visit family and friends in the frozen tundra that is Winnipeg.
	P.S. credit, just Ian from Montreal.
	No, it says something else there.
	If you mess up Ian, get Adam to play an Atlas Shrug jingle.
	Well, you messed it up twice, John.
	You said Ion twice, so you do get the Atlas Shrug jingle.
	Atlas Shrine By Ayn Rand You've got karma Good.
	It's really weird, you know, this, why, we should investigate why you continuously read Ian as Ion.
	There's a reason for that.
	There's something going on in the brain.
	I never knew an Ion, I think, is the reason.
	I think we should call Sanjay Gupta.
	Sir Pete, Amsterdam, snakes.
	He's right there down the street from once you go see him.
	69, uh-oh, 69, 69.
	69, dude!
	Please double tap all ignorant and manipulative marketing douchebags.
	Might be redundant.
	Add a horizontal karma for the upcoming holidays.
	Alright.
	Double tap it is.
	You've got karma.
	Sir Chad Biederman.
	In Round Lake, Illinois.
	Ellen Nuts, he likes to say.
	Greeting from Ellen Nuts.
	Got a killer idea for some side income for No Agenda.
	An audio book of John sarcastically reading and Atlas Shrugged.
	Can you imagine how long that would take?
	I think it's like 16 hours.
	I could never get paid enough.
	I would never read the book, but I'd pay $20 or $30 to hear John read the damn thing.
	This doesn't sound like a great idea to me.
	I don't think it's a great idea.
	But thank you very much.
	Anonymous in Columbus, Ohio, 6969.
	Long-time boner, first-time donor.
	I'm a human resource working in human resources.
	You were absolutely right on target a few weeks back when discussing the meme of reverse discrimination occurring today as a result of legislation.
	It's very real and I want no part of it.
	Requesting a little kid's shut-up slave plus two-to-the-head job karma in hopes that I can escape.
	Keep up the great work as I appreciate all you do.
	Shut up, slave!
	You've got karma.
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	Rene Estevez in Orlando, Florida, 6969.
	I'm donating for a friend not because he needs to get laid, but because he's already getting fucked by unemployment.
	I'd like to keep him as a housemate since he's a pretty decent cook.
	Help me keep this hetero domestic partnership alive with some jobs, jobs, jobs, karma, and a little JC slide whistle for good luck.
	Keep up the good work.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
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	Sir James Pierce in Copperas Cove, Texas, 69.
	6969.
	Thank you, John and Adam, for keeping up with the show.
	Even when circumstances work against you, I hope others appreciate it as much as I do.
	How about a little karma for all the producers who are down on their luck?
	A Merry Christmas and a Bah Humbug.
	Merry Christmas, slave.
	Bah Humbug, slave.
	You've got karma.
	That will close our segment.
	69!
	69!
	All right.
	Thank you so much, Swazzle Muffers.
	Meanwhile, Sir Greg Stone, Rapid City, South Dakota, double nickels on the dime.
	Please check email for story of karma.
	He needs...
	Okay, I have to go get that.
	Oh, it's in a...
	Oh.
	You know, this came through.
	I didn't follow up on this.
	I didn't understand this either, but now I see...
	Okay, let me just explain.
	And by the way, I don't know if I really like this.
	So he sent us a link, and I'm like, okay, I know Greg Stone, so now it's Sir Greg, I'll download his link.
	But it's a disk image.
	Yes, for the Mac.
	Yeah, and then so I got that, and then it's like you need a password, and then it says the password will be in the PayPal message.
	So now he tells me what the password is, but now what am I supposed to do?
	Am I supposed to open this right now?
	I don't know.
	I can't open it at all because I don't have a Mac.
	Anyway, I'm having JC make an image.
	I'll take a look at it sometime.
	He says it's not...
	It's just something we're supposed to look at.
	Doesn't he want some karma?
	Don't we give him a job, job, job?
	He didn't say anything about karma.
	This is the story of karma.
	All right, good.
	Okay.
	Wheat Ridge, Colorado.
	Double nickels on the dime.
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	Petersburg, Florida, double nickels on the dime.
	Here's some spare change to beat those U.S. immigration jerks to the pavement.
	And for Neo-Keynesian John to buy a money printing press.
	I'm moving to Gitmo Nation Wienerschnitzel with my smoking hot girlfriend in the new year.
	So give us some karma in order to avoid Adam's IRS with gun situation and the crumbling foundation of the anti-democratic European Union.
	Good luck with that.
	Here's the karma.
	You've got karma.
	You're going to need it.
	Yeah, you're going to need that for sure.
	Well, he's got the smoking hot girlfriend.
	That's half the job done.
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	Please accept this donation on behalf of the future Dame Ryko, or Ryko, Ryko, I think.
	If asked, she would demurely point out that a more correct pronunciation of geisha is geisha.
	Geisha.
	Not as one hears these days.
	Geisha.
	Then I'll make sure I say geisha.
	Geisha.
	Geisha.
	We'll say Geisha.
	We change our pronunciations as the listeners demand.
	Also during our evacuation from California, nuts, this summer we provided that karma, or proved that karma works, sorry.
	During two cross-country drives, we experienced no hassles, border patrol roadblocks, cops, or mechanical failures.
	Please give us some start making a living karma for our new life in the mountains.
	Very nice.
	I'd love to go there.
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	Long-time listener, first-time donor with the holiday around the corner, could no longer tolerate the shame of being a boner.
	So I decided it was time to give even if it is not as much as you deserve.
	To be honest with you both, I often disagree with much of what you say, but the entertainment value and the tenacity in which you defend your beliefs is what keeps me tuned in.
	Best wishes for the holidays from an Argentinian in Belgium.
	Yeah, wow.
	Solange.
	Which I've always felt Solange is a beautiful name.
	Great name.
	Felix Schudel.
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	Schudel.
	Oh, I don't see the album.
	Okay.
	You don't see the album?
	Schudel.
	Schudel.
	I don't see the album.
	Schudel.
	In Neuhausen.
	Deutschland?
	Jawohl.
	I don't have a comment from him.
	Kevin Benson in Houdina, New South Wales, 5463.
	This is a Sunday.
	No one donates donation, but I am busy till then.
	From Gitmo Nation down under, 5463 donation.
	Wish I had more disposable funds to throw your way.
	4242 in memory of the great Douglas Adams plus 1212 for the end of the world as it really happens, if it really happens.
	And he won't miss it.
	Adam won.
	Focus.
	One, as a new eight-week listener, this is my second donation.
	I'm calling all the Yankee scumbags no donators as douchebags.
	Douchebag!
	If Down Under can do it, well, Yankee pussies.
	Support Lowlands, Adam, or is it Lowlife, too?
	Adam, you whingy pussy, stop bagging Hillary.
	She's still a great actress here in Oz.
	Comes off angry and disconnected because she's still mad that someone dropped a house on her sister.
	Don't eat me, Hillary Clinton!
	They are not drones.
	They are flying monkeys.
	Hey.
	He needs a give me shelter karma.
	Yeah, alright, Kevin.
	You've got karma.
	You see, he's from Oz.
	I'm not sure where that was headed.
	Well, you have to understand he's from Oz, you see, so that's a Wizard of Oz theme.
	I mean, you've got to kind of get into it.
	Oh, yes.
	Oh, something lights up on John's head.
	I get it now.
	Kevin Payne, Richmond, Virginia, 5101, and Sir Chris Slowinski in Sherwood Park, Sherwood somewhere, Sherwood Park, I guess, Alberta, 50.
	And, uh, bottom here, let me see.
	Are you okay?
	Nigel Baker, country Dublin.
	Yeah.
	50 Ireland.
	Yeah.
	Yay.
	Hey John and Adam and all the human resources, thanks for your fantastic work and a very happy Christmas to you all.
	These are tough times and I'm self-employed and have just published my first book for the iPad on iTunes, some karma for my new book, Skelling Michael, an interactive video book.
	Skellig, Michael.
	Skellig.
	Skellig.
	Oh, Skellig.
	S-K-E-L-L-I-G. I didn't track the video.
	He needs to shut up, slave, to the head.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, we gotta, we gotta...
	Shut up, slave!
	You got it!
	Shut up, slave!
	You've got karma.
	To the head, karma.
	Happy to oblige.
	Old Kentian in Melbourne.
	Uh, 50.
	Dear Joe and Alan, episode 469 had the best artwork ever.
	Stop, stop, stop, wait a minute.
	What is this Joe and Alan?
	What is this?
	Wait a minute.
	Is this our new names?
	Joe and Alan?
	He's in Australia.
	Joe C. Dvorak and Alan C. Curry.
	Here's 50 bucks for the artwork.
	I haven't even listened to the show yet.
	Maybe it's enough for Alan to buy a coffee in Euroland.
	Merry Christmas, mofos.
	Looking forward to a hot party down under.
	He just made my day regardless.
	Joe and Alan.
	Hi, I'm Alan Curry.
	I'm Joe Dvorak.
	Joe C. Dvorak.
	Illbilly.
	In Kinsley, Kansas.
	This is our last donor for today.
	Oh, wow.
	ITM, John and Adam.
	At this rate, I'll gain knighthood in 2022.
	I want to apologize for not donating sooner as my mother had come down with breast cancer and being the only son a thousand miles away.
	I needed to use that money to get her to chemo.
	Thanks for the news, entertainment, and media assassination.
	Hopefully, this will assist in a house in Europe for Mickey and Adam and maybe John can throw in some pot.
	Throw in some pot.
	No, throw in a pot.
	Throw it in the pot for a new sound card.
	If I could, I would be like a douchebag for myself.
	Give him a douchebag.
	If you really want one.
	Douchebag!
	And he's a douchebag for his buddy Schizo for not donating.
	Douchebag!
	Some karma for his mom as she whips the shit out of breast cancer.
	Finally, a fiscal clip for the rest of the slaves in Gitmo Nation as we collectively careen head on into fiscal oblivion.
	Lastly, why does JCD have such an issue with Atlas Shrugged?
	I don't.
	I love that book.
	Alright, so I'm going to give you a little special here.
	Fiscal cliff for you and F cancer for your mom and a karma.
	You've got karma.
	There you go.
	If that doesn't whip it, nothing will.
	And that's it.
	That's it, yeah.
	That's it, short.
	So we will continue on our merry way with 471 coming up.
	And we're actually on the road to 12-21-12 Christmas, which, you know, would be a slow week as usual.
	And we have to take a look at another possibility for next year as a promotion.
	Something to think about.
	I'm not sure how to go about it.
	Show 500 will be coming up sometime in March or April, I believe.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	And I'll still be here, by the way.
	Probably.
	I'll still be here.
	Let's make a bet.
	No, let's not make a bet.
	We've got 20 more shows from Gitmo Nation down on.
	Oh, my goodness.
	You mean Lowlands.
	Lowlands.
	30 more, I mean.
	30 episodes coming up.
	I really am.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	I'm still Joe Curry.
	I'm Alan Curry.
	I'm stuck here somewhere and somewhere.
	Why don't you guys go to Vienna and get out of the way of those paparazzi?
	Well, here's the problem.
	I mean, so now I have an actual studio.
	I've got a whole thing all set up.
	It's like, I can't carry this across the border.
	I mean, so then we'd have to go and come back and, you know, so what, I'm going to, I'm going to, so I got to, I'm paying for rent in Austin, I'm paying for rent in Amsterdam, and then I'm going to go to Vienna?
	I'm like, let's be realistic.
	You sound like Mickey, by the way.
	Hey, let's go to Paris for New Year's.
	Sure, sure, no problem.
	I'm made of money.
	And jump on the high-speed train.
	Anyway, we would...
	The high-speed train.
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	Before you get into your crazy stuff, I know you've got backed up.
	I've got to get this meme out of the way so we can start looking for it more.
	It may be a dud because I haven't been seeing it much.
	This is the meme that you announced to much fanfare?
	Yeah.
	It's not really happening, is it?
	What?
	The meme.
	I don't know what the meme is.
	Yeah, the meme is that Nelson Mandela is going to die.
	No, that's not a meme.
	That was a prediction.
	Oh.
	Gee, Joe.
	Predicting he's going to die is no big deal.
	I'm just saying it's going to be the distraction of the week and it's going to step all over something.
	Probably more of this Benghazi stuff.
	Okay.
	Then what's your meme?
	The meme is...
	I'm going to see if you can figure it out by listening to this Amy Goodman.
	Amy Goodman is at...
	When she's at the climate thing in Doha or wherever it was, she drops the meme about three times in here.
	And the only reason I took this clip is because all during the Doha...
	These people, the guy who's the head of Greenpeace is very famous.
	He's got some jazzy name that people like to say over and over again.
	I can't think of it personally.
	She'll say it.
	They're all using this meme.
	I started looking up the meme and I think it's pretty onerous and it's something that we have to keep an eye out for and call people out when they use it.
	Goodman Democracy Now!
	Civil society groups are extremely frustrated here.
	President Obama, in his first speech after he was elected, said that he didn't want our children to live in an America that isn't threatened by the destructive power of a warming planet.
	Yesterday, a number of civil society groups held a news conference And they said at that news conference, Kumi Naidu of Greenpeace International, said Todd Stern and Jonathan Pershing have come to Doha with their needles stuck in the groove of obstructing the UN process and art they have perfected.
	And he said that it is disrespectful of President Obama to inflict on us two negative negotiators who act as if the comments he made after his election were never made.
	Obama should pick up the phone and tell his delegates to follow his lead or alternatively call them back to Washington.
	That's what Kumi Naidoo said.
	Jonathan Pershing, are you following President Obama's wishes?
	And how do you respond to civil society groups who are saying that the U.S. is the lead obstructor to any kind of negotiated deal here in Doha?
	I have no comment on the first part of that.
	On the second piece, I think the United States' role is very much one of engaging actively and constructively in the discussion.
	We are one of the significant contributors to the intellectual thinking in the process.
	We have been.
	We will continue to try to do that.
	It doesn't mean that we'll agree with everyone on everything.
	This is, after all, a negotiation.
	Okay, you can kill it.
	Yeah, he's basically telling her to screw herself.
	Well, let me ask you a question before you get into anything.
	What the hell is Amy Goodman doing talking like that in Doha?
	Shouldn't she be, like, at home base reading the news off the teleprompter?
	Well, apparently.
	She sure doesn't know what a concise question is.
	I mean, how come we don't get any, like, any invitations?
	To talk about the warming planet.
	We could get invited to that if we played our cards right.
	Yeah.
	Okay, so here's what she drops this in two or three times.
	It's called civil society.
	You know what civil society is?
	Have you ever heard this before?
	Civil society?
	I mean, don't we live in a civil society?
	Isn't that kind of what we're supposed to be all about?
	Civil society?
	The wiki page has got a good description, a good definition.
	Let me read.
	Civil society.
	No, that's not what it's about at all.
	What are you, nuts?
	It's a new leftist term that they're going to slip into.
	And it's interesting because it actually has enemies.
	Let me read you the definition.
	Civil society is the area outside of the family, the state, and the market where people associate with each other to advance common interests.
	It's sometimes considered to include the family and the private sphere and then referred to as the third sector of society, distinct from government and business.
	This goes on and on.
	Where does this take place then?
	Can I walk out the door into civil society?
	Is there a street sign so I know that when I've arrived at civil society?
	You have to read the whole thing.
	It's ridiculous.
	But what it amounts to is something, even though it does include NGOs, it's something outside of NGOs.
	And you can call yourself a civil society group.
	She used that term three times.
	Okay.
	Civil society group is distinct from anything else.
	And let me read you, the only thing that's interesting to me, I mean the whole thing is just a typical bunch of bull crap, but what's kind of interesting, I hope it's still here, Enemies of civil society.
	We're the enemies of civil society, I'm sure.
	Oh, if you read this, everything is.
	But this is the future of the politically correct movement, civil society.
	When I read you the enemies, you can see distinctively that pretty much everything that we stand for is against civil society.
	We are the enemies of.
	Right, right, right.
	Give me an example.
	John A. Hall, five distinct enemies.
	And by the way, he's an interesting character, this John A. Hall.
	Five distinct enemies of civil society.
	One, despotism.
	This is the idea of fear, which discourages...
	Any type of group that's formed between society and government.
	Is that like a circle on Google Plus?
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Two.
	This is the idea of fear that discourages groups that form between society and government.
	So, in other words, civil society.
	Right.
	Revival of the tradition of Republican civic virtues.
	These are qualities that hold a moral value or moral principle and amount to dispositions to obey.
	I wasn't ready for that.
	Of course not.
	This would include...
	You will obey.
	You will obey.
	But what this is really about is...
	By the way, you better obey civil society.
	But this refers to churches, civics class in school, and you're taught to be a certain way, and you should obey, you shouldn't deface, you shouldn't litter, for example, would be an enemy.
	Right, right, right.
	Number three, specific forms of nationalism.
	This would be where the rule of the majority wins, and assimilation is used in order to form an ideal society.
	The melting pot is an enemy of civil society, in other words.
	I don't understand.
	Why?
	Because.
	Okay.
	It's not multicultural.
	It's trying to get everybody to be the same way.
	We want everyone to be different, speak different languages.
	Wait a minute.
	It's just a subversive concept.
	I always thought that the melting pot was the whole...
	It was the multicultural society was the whole idea.
	Now we're supposed to be all the same?
	No, it's supposed to be all different.
	Okay.
	No national languages.
	Everybody keeping to themselves, essentially.
	None of this idealism.
	No nationalism.
	Nationalism is bad.
	Now think about the global elite and how they would like to get rid of it.
	For one thing, they don't want the church to have any power.
	They want no nationalism so we can have one big world government.
	This is world government stuff.
	Right.
	My favorite.
	Now, the one that's harder to understand is totalizing...
	This is number four.
	And all it says is totalizing ideologies.
	Okay.
	Now, totalizing ideologies, you actually have to Google to figure out what it means.
	And it's like, I can't quite...
	I haven't read this for a week or two, but I'll try to summarize.
	But let's go to number five.
	Essentialist...
	Say it again.
	Essentialist cultural ideals.
	These would be social cages of individuals that determines the function and value of that person in society.
	Come again?
	Now, can you kind of figure out what that might mean?
	Come again.
	Let me try it.
	Let me try it.
	Essentialist cultural ideals, in other words, say you're an artist, these would be social cages of individuals that determines the function and value of that person in society.
	You had me at function.
	I believe it means, for example, like the two of us are caged in a preconceived notion of, you know, I'm the crackpot, or you're the crackpot, I'm the buzzkill, that kind of thing.
	These are stereotypes that are bad.
	Really start looking at this thing.
	Wow.
	Civil society is an extremely subversive concept that is aimed at promoting multiculturalism, no nationalism, no...
	No national identities, globalism, world government, political correctness to an extreme where the enemies can be identified, which in the enemies seem to be common sense.
	The enemy would be common sense, you know, you love your country, the church is a good thing for people who need religion, and that blah, blah, blah.
	Anyway, so I just think this is a meme we have to keep a lookout for because it's a really bad, bad, bad one.
	How does Amy Goodman get on a trip like this?
	I mean, so does she get a memo, or is she hanging out with a bunch of douche knuckles who are just saying, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	I mean, how does that propagate?
	That's what I'm...
	Yeah.
	It's like it's weird the way it propagates.
	The only way I can describe it is when you're in Silicon Valley and you're covering tech all the time, which I have to do, things will come up like the word Wi-Fi.
	It used to be 802.11, oh yeah, I got wireless.
	Then the Wi-Fi group formed, and now you start calling it Wi-Fi.
	I got Wi-Fi, Wi-Fi.
	It just happens in the milieu.
	It just pops up, so now I say Wi-Fi.
	I actually, I understand this because I'll tell you something completely nuts.
	Do you know that in the Netherlands they call it Wi-Fi?
	Wi-Fi?
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	And the whole world knows that it's Wi-Fi.
	But for some reason, for some crazy-ass reason, the Dutch have decided to call it Wi-Fi.
	Huh.
	And milieu again.
	Yeah, milieu, total milieu, milieu, Wi-Fi.
	So anyway, people should go to the wiki page and type in Civil Society Wiki, or Google Civil Society Wiki, and then also this Totalizing Ideologies, which I... We'll re-examine is another thing to look into.
	This is really extremely bad.
	Everything that's wrong with the country is pretty much locked into this concept of civil society.
	And the name, like you said, as soon as you heard it, you said, well, I'm civil.
	It's not what it's about.
	It's an underground.
	Right.
	It's kind of like right to work state.
	It's kind of like that.
	It's one of those New World Order terms, civil society.
	It's totally New World Order.
	Oh, well.
	All right, that's my meme of the day.
	Okay.
	Well, then let me give you some actual...
	And now, back to real news.
	I often see things on television where I think wow that is just an amazingly crazy promotion for a product but somehow there's a group out there Yep, that's a giant Oreo cookie.
	He's making its first-ever cookie delivery to Antarctica.
	It's a celebration to mark Oreo's 100th birthday in 100 years since people first set foot on the South Pole.
	Not only did the Oreo surprise scientists with 5,000 cookies, also made a donation to the world's first solar-powered penguin cam and wore earmuffs as well.
	Lucky penguins.
	Oh, yeah.
	That's good for us.
	Have a great weekend.
	Can you believe that someone actually pitched the idea of sending a giant Oreo cookie to Antarctica?
	And, not just that, but then 5,000 cookies for the scientists there, and the world's first solar-powered penguin cam.
	Can you believe me?
	Wow, there's some sales guy involved in this bowl of crap.
	Someone went, that's a great idea.
	Sold.
	And they covered it.
	And they got it on the news.
	This is what drives me nuts.
	And they got it on the news.
	They actually did.
	Oh, man.
	All right, let me...
	Did you see the thing...
	By the way, there's one thing I wanted to talk about the last couple of shows.
	I just want to mention it, keep an eye out for it.
	The headline pretty much says what it's about, which is, David Petraeus may have committed much worse crimes in Afghanistan.
	Oh, do tell.
	They're starting to pull the drone attacks, especially the double-tap.
	Mm-hmm.
	Because apparently it's a violation of every law.
	Geneva Convention.
	Yeah, of course.
	Geneva Convention.
	To first blow up something and then attract people, attract a Red Cross or somebody trying to save lives and then blow them up.
	And it seems to be some indication that Petraeus came up with this idea.
	Because who else would go back there unless they were bad?
	Wait a minute.
	Isn't this exactly...
	There's something going on with Petraeus that we don't know.
	Isn't this exactly what the very first WikiLeaks video that came out that showed a couple of dudes getting machine gunned by a helicopter gunship and then you see the people come and try and help them and then they got machine gunned too.
	Isn't this exactly the same thing?
	Yeah.
	This is a war crime.
	We are a bunch of assholes.
	I mean, I'm sorry.
	We just, as Americans...
	I'm not doing it.
	Well, no, but...
	You can't call me an asshole.
	I'm against it.
	Listen, Joe.
	You're totally in on this.
	You're not out there demonstrating, saying, stop this bull crap.
	I'm saying stop this bullcrap.
	I don't have to demonstrate.
	Well, I say stop this bullcrap.
	I say stop this bullcrap.
	All right, let me play a funny clip here.
	This is Matt Damon.
	Are you familiar with Matt Damon?
	Yeah, I've heard of him.
	So he's an actor, and he plays a tough guy in the movies.
	And he's an idiot.
	Because I want you to listen to what he thinks, because this is about Fiscal Cliff, and he's on the Tavis Smiley Show.
	And Tavis, of course, is on our National Treasure, the PBS's, which is public television, brought to you by Monsanto and Archer.
	Tavis's got like a lifesaver in his mouth all the time.
	Exactly.
	And so he's saying, hey, man.
	What about the fiscal cliff and everything?
	Matt Damon is such an idiot.
	And he takes it all the way to a punchline, which I just found incredible, and that this is on television, on so-called smart television, that people watch and go, oh yeah, no, this is right, this is truth.
	Do you think that ultimately on the things that matter to you, the things that matter to me, that Obama as president is going to be on the right side of history?
	And this is my favorite term.
	Because if anyone is going to be on the right side of history, it's going to be Joe and Alan from the Crackpot and Buzzkill show, okay?
	Not Obama, not Hillary Clinton.
	We're going to be on the right side of history.
	I desperately hope so.
	Because we need that.
	Why?
	What?
	Why?
	Why do we need it?
	Why does he hope so?
	Well, listen!
	I don't need that.
	I'm in the 1%, so I need to pay more taxes.
	I need to pay more taxes, he says.
	Okay, let's see if he understands the concept.
	It's the truth.
	You know, I don't begrudge...
	I don't drive by a firehouse and see guys playing cards and begrudge the fact that my taxes pay them.
	Does Matt Damon understand that most firemen are volunteer and that they don't get paid at all?
	And that, if anything, it is going to be local, council, city, or state taxes, but not federal taxes that pay for your firemen, you idiot.
	Because every once in a while the bell goes off and those guys run into a burning building for people who are strangers or people who are my friends.
	Don't you understand that the money, the extra taxes that you want to pay is going to double tap people with drones?
	Don't you read a newspaper, you idiot?
	Don't you see where the money is actually going?
	To us, asshole Americans, killers of the world.
	What?
	I'd like you to play the clip, but let me...
	I'm baffled, I'm always baffled to the point of stupefication as to why anybody in their right mind says, I want to pay more taxes.
	Oh, because he's an idiot.
	It's amazing.
	Or their cats, you know, and I don't want to do that.
	You know, I don't know that I'm built to do that.
	Maybe I am, but I'd rather pay another percent or two for some, you know, police who are going to make sure, you know, our kids...
	For some police, you know.
	Another percent or two for some police.
	Wait, let's listen.
	What are the police going to do, Matt?
	We're safe and we're safe.
	We're going to be safe.
	You know, occasionally they put themselves in harm's way.
	Now, wait for it.
	Wait for it.
	Wait for what this idiot is about to say.
	And, you know, I like driving on nice roads.
	Yeah, nice roads.
	Hello, Matt Damon.
	That nice road is state taxes.
	Maybe it's a toll road.
	It doesn't come from your extra money that you are, which you were more than welcome to pay.
	Um, you know, I, you know, I believe, I believe, you know, you know, I just, I believe that we're all in it together.
	Oh, civil society.
	We're all in it together now.
	Wait for it!
	And I wonder, you know, these people get so angry about a couple more percentage points.
	It's like, what, I mean, what are you talking about, really?
	You know, you want to see what life looks like without that?
	Go to the Congo, you know?
	There are rich people.
	There are rich people in Haiti.
	Ah, thank you.
	Thank you for bringing it up.
	Well, listen, Mr.
	Matt Damon, a-hole extraordinaire.
	Everyone gave money to Haiti, and the same people you're talking about giving more money stole it!
	They're all stealing the money, Matt Damon!
	Go check it out.
	Do you want to live there?
	I mean, it's like...
	So for me, those issues of social justice as well, for me, those are the most important things.
	I'm reading a lot about...
	Shut up!
	Shut up.
	And no one has ever allowed...
	If you're going to watch a Matt Damon movie, bit-torrent it.
	Steal it from him.
	Bit-torrent?
	Bit-torrent it.
	Do not go to the movie...
	Bit-torrent it from that guy.
	Do not go watch his movie.
	What an a-hole!
	And Tavis Smiley, too.
	You douche.
	Well, Tavis Smiley's just a speech for the band.
	Oh, my goodness.
	You know, people are lucky that there's stuff...
	They're lucky that we're around.
	The best podcast in the day.
	I didn't know he said...
	You know?
	I didn't know he said, you know, you know, you know.
	I believe, I believe, you know, you know.
	So much.
	Don't you know?
	I'm just asking if you know.
	Yeah, okay.
	I don't know why these guys do this.
	It's beyond me.
	I want to be taxed more.
	Really?
	Well, then why do you even go?
	Why don't you just, you know, you can volunteer more money.
	Yeah.
	Well, speaking of such, you know, there's big, big news here in Euroland.
	The Belgian village of Nechans is to become home to actor Gérard Depardieu, who's the latest Frenchman to leave his native country for tax reasons.
	After a series of tax hikes introduced by Socialist President François Hollande, the Asterix Star has bought a house and is considering taking up residency in the country which does not have a wealth tax.
	Everyone's moving to Belgium.
	He's moving to Belgium?
	Yeah, all the rich French dudes are moving to Belgium because...
	They're not going to Switzerland.
	No, no, no, because, you know, it's next door.
	It's part of the barony.
	You know, they call up Baron von Pelsmacher and say, hey, I'm just going to move down a little bit.
	You know, I'm going to...
	Wow, I hear sirens here.
	And then they're going to move from France down to...
	Mr.
	Curry, Mr.
	Curry!
	Here, listen, open the door!
	Here, listen, listen.
	You hear it?
	It's right here on the canal, too.
	They're coming to take me away.
	Yeah, you know, I have to say, when it comes to sirens, the American sirens are cool.
	And this tattoo tattoo, isn't that kind of wimpy?
	I can't do it.
	Haven't you ever kind of thought about that?
	It's wimpy.
	It's wimpy.
	Wimpy, I say.
	It's ear-catching.
	Yeah, but it's wimpy.
	I mean, have you ever been around one of these fire trucks here in the U.S. of A? Oh, man!
	Where you got your window down, and the guys, now you have the loudest siren in the world, and they honk that horn, which sounds like a train coming through.
	It may just deafen you.
	Hey, good news.
	We have an extension of the expiration date on the FDA's Compliance Policy Guide with regards to Radio Frequency Identification Feasibility Studies and Pilot Programs for Drugs.
	It's been extended to December 31st, 2014.
	Have you ever heard of this?
	No.
	But I'm happy.
	I'm happy.
	You should be.
	The Food and Drug Administration has been experimenting putting RFID chips into drugs to track counterfeit drugs.
	Of course, you also ingest this stuff and they can track you.
	But it literally says here, the FDA has identified RFID as a promising technology.
	To be used in the various efforts to combat counterfeit drugs.
	This directive describes how the agency intends to exercise its enforcement discretion regarding certain regulatory requirements that might otherwise be applicable to studies involving RFID technology for drugs.
	So...
	You know, the whole idea of injecting chips into you and stuff that you laughed at me about four years ago?
	Here it is.
	In the Federal Register.
	Putting it right into the drugs.
	Tracking it as you put it into your tummy.
	If it's in your stomach, there's no way the signal can get out.
	From a piece that small, no way.
	I mean, look.
	You're going to poop it out.
	You're going to poop it out.
	And it's going to go down the toilet, down the drain.
	It's going to be at the sewage treatment plant.
	And they're going to flip the button.
	They're going to go, where's Curry?
	Apparently, he's fallen into the sewage treatment plant.
	Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
	All right, then.
	Okay.
	As you wish.
	I see it differently, but as you wish.
	Good to go.
	All right.
	You got anything else there, Joe?
	No, I'm reading about this.
	There's a bunch of spy stuff that's not interesting, and then there's some crazy...
	No, not really.
	Not really?
	Let's see if I've got one more clip left.
	I thought you might have one.
	Yeah, yeah, Portugal protests.
	They're going crazy in Portugal and Bahrain.
	They actually play Bahrain.
	Bahrain, it is.
	Purple Bahrain.
	Tens of thousands of people have marched in Bahrain's capital, Manama, as anti-government protests continue in the Gulf monarchy.
	The uprising's been going on for almost two years now, and it's often met with a due response by the country's security forces.
	Syed Youssef Almuhafta from the Bahrain Center for Human Rights says authorities are firm in their actions because they think they're backed by the West.
	Government of Bahrain, they have a huge support from Western country, so that's why they don't care about human rights violations.
	More than 100 protesters were killed, thousands were tortured, arrested in the last one year and a half.
	I didn't understand a word that dude said.
	Great report, pal.
	Good work, Russia, today.
	Nobody in the American media will even touch this topic.
	No.
	And by the way, they showed some videos.
	I could be bullshit videos, but they were protests of some sort with the Bahrainian flag by the tens of thousands.
	I mean, it looked like about a quarter of a million people were walking around bitching.
	Wow.
	So that's something that nobody's discussing.
	Also, the Portuguese are...
	Moaning and groaning about their situation.
	I don't blame them either.
	Thousands of people have taken to the streets of Lisbon to protest against next year's budget.
	The new financial plan is one of the harshest in the country's recent history and will take away the equivalent of a month's wages for many workers.
	Portugal's government's committed to austerity measures as it struggles to meet the terms of its international creditors.
	See, that wasn't even in the newspapers here.
	They're not even talking about it here.
	And you can fly there in an hour and a half.
	That wasn't even shown there?
	No!
	No, no, no, no!
	That's crazy!
	They don't want to give anyone any ideas.
	No, it's just as bad as in the...
	Don't give any slaves the ideas.
	You go out and protest on the street.
	No.
	No, instead, we've got Phillips and Heineken, and they put together the Christmas Canal Parade of Lights.
	Oh, cool.
	Yeah, everyone could stand on the canal like, oh, there's some lights going by on boats.
	Wow, lights!
	Yeah.
	Was it 1890?
	It's even better.
	They had little Mickey Mouse ears with red lead lights on top, and they handed them out, and everyone's walking around with these two...
	I should get some pictures for you.
	Hold on a second.
	Google this for a second.
	Get some more pictures that we can use in the newsletter.
	Hold on.
	Google for a second.
	Google Christmas...
	Christmas.
	Hold on.
	Christmas.
	Canal Lights Parade, I think is what it was.
	You Google that.
	You can see some pictures.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Hold on.
	Pictures.
	Images.
	There we go.
	What do we got?
	Oh, look how cute it all is.
	It's all so pretty.
	All the slaves are just like, ah, yeah.
	Pretty, winky, winky.
	I got a good one.
	I use Christmas Canal Lights Parade Amsterdam and there's a crap load of stuff.
	But you've got to get the headgear that people are wearing.
	Hold on.
	What would it be?
	Headgear?
	I'll just try headgear.
	I think that was what it was.
	I think typing in headgear Amsterdam is not going to get what you want.
	All right, with that, we shall shut down the broadcast for today, as we are still enabled to broadcast, which is kind of a good thing, I guess.
	It's not easy.
	It's not easy sometimes.
	Are you doing any other shows today?
	No, I'm good to go.
	I'm going to probably clean the office again.
	Right.
	You should tweet a picture of that.
	Yeah, that's the ticket.
	I will.
	Alright, so I'll keep my eyes and ears open here.
	I'll have everything boots on the ground as we continue our...
	Life in exile here in Gitmo Nation lowlands.
	And we'll bring you an update on Thursday, obviously, of everything that's going on here and how long we're going to be stuck in the lowlands, which seems to be until the end of the world.
	Coming to you from Amsterdam, the Netherlands, day 10 in exile.
	Gitmo Nation lowlands.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Alan C. Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, I'm Josh C. Joe Dvorak.
	We'll be back on Thursday, right here, on No Agenda.
	The best podcast in the universe!
	Yes, citizen, you may return to your harpsichord.
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