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	You are all a bunch of mainstream media-watching morons!
	Adam Curry, John C. Devorak.
	It's Sunday, November 25th, 2012.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, episode 464.
	This is No Agenda.
	No.
	Practicing my dits and dags here in the capital of the Drone Star State, Austin Tejas.
	In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Pacific NW Bunker, where I managed to see the cultural event of the year, the James Bond movie, It Stinks.
	I'm John C. Devorak.
	It's Crackbott and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Oh, really?
	I was thinking of going to see that tonight.
	Bad idea?
	No, go see it.
	You want a quick summary so you don't have to go see it?
	Don't spoil it for me.
	No, I'm fine.
	Screw that.
	Don't spoil it.
	What's everybody all concerned about?
	Don't spoil it.
	I'm not going to go.
	Not a baseball game.
	Should I tell you the last James Bond movie I saw?
	It won't be anything like this one.
	A View to a Kill.
	Oh.
	That was when Duran Duran was still singing the soundtrack.
	That's how long ago it's been since I've seen a James Bond movie.
	I don't care.
	I just, I can't, I don't care.
	Don't go.
	I don't care.
	Why did you go?
	You went.
	Well, because Eric DeShiel is a movie junkie.
	Oh, really?
	I didn't know that.
	And so we went, and he's, by the way, he should have his own website.
	He has always been a better review than anybody else I know.
	Boy, he has noagendanation.com.
	He has a website.
	No, he should have his own movie review website.
	Oh, okay.
	I get it.
	So he spotted stuff in there I didn't even see, and I was grousing the whole way home.
	Yeah, but like what?
	I mean, who cares?
	Oh, let's see.
	They're on top of like a 500,000-foot trestle on a train.
	The good guys have a sniper, and Bond is fighting with some guy.
	So she shoots under orders and misses the bad guy and hits Bond right in the chest, knocks him off the trestle, into the water.
	He goes flying from 500 feet, splashes in.
	And then goes down at like about 100 feet, dead, goes over a waterfall into a huge lake and sinks to the bottom.
	Five minutes later, he's kissing some girl in India.
	No explanation of how he got out of this mess whatsoever.
	And so you're telling me that you didn't catch that?
	What do you mean I didn't get caught it?
	No, you said Eric the Shill came up with...
	Please, please, just stop.
	Just stop.
	I don't care.
	I just don't care.
	It's the worst movie.
	It's full of plot holes.
	Fine.
	I don't care.
	That makes no sense.
	I just don't care.
	And don't go there.
	I'm not going to go.
	I don't care about movies.
	Very, very, very few.
	I have other things to do.
	I usually only go to movies that are in 3D. I'm producing the best podcast in the universe, man.
	I've got no time for this bull crap.
	Get back to work.
	I really don't.
	Gas it with me.
	And it was a lot of work since we last spoke because, of course, anywhere you look, everyone's starting to do their year-end stuff.
	And it's like, because usually I watch my Rubenesque friend Candy Crowley, who I actually think is a little beyond Rubenesque.
	She's not really Rubenesque.
	She's just plump.
	You know, and then she always has, you know, the same shills on Sunday morning.
	And she'd be doing like a retrospective about, you know, the four people leaving the Senate.
	You know, Barney Frank, and they're all pontificating.
	I was like, ugh, really?
	We're going to get all these students?
	CNN is, we're going to do our heroes of 2012.
	It's like, incredibly annoying.
	Of course, you know, we love our lists.
	Got to do our lists at the end of the year.
	That's because it's the easiest thing in the world to do if you're in an editorial position.
	You gather around the table and you make stuff up.
	Yeah, exactly.
	That's how we roll.
	That's exactly how we roll.
	I had a nice little meeting yesterday in town at Halcyon here in Austis, in Austis Texan.
	I like Austis.
	Austis Texan.
	Sir GQ, one of our knights, happened to be in the area.
	And he came after my market visit at the farmer's market to have a coffee and say hi.
	And let's just put it this way.
	Sir GQ, first of all, handsome man.
	Now we know why we call him Sir GQ. He looks like a GQ model.
	Huh.
	You guys must have looked like a couple of characters there, if you know what I mean.
	Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
	Oh, by the way, that's another thing about the James Bond movie.
	Now they hint he's gay.
	Oh, really?
	In the James Bond movie?
	Yeah.
	Now I've got to go see it.
	Yeah, definitely.
	You definitely have to go see that.
	Is he bi-curious or full-on gay?
	Well, apparently, according to Eric DeShiel...
	I don't care.
	To me!
	I just don't care.
	I don't.
	So anyway, Sir GQ, looking really good.
	He's training in the area.
	And we kind of agreed that this would be the last time we would ever meet in person.
	Because when he gets into his next position, he won't be able to talk to me as openly and frankly.
	But he told me a lot about this 35 Quebec event.
	And this is the new elite cyber unit that they're putting together in the Armed Forces, 35 Quebec.
	And you have, you know, this is, what do they call it, a new MOC? I think it's MOC. MOC, MOS? Maybe MOS, which is like, it's a new position.
	And this new position, they're recruiting.
	And he says it's unbelievable how big this thing is going to be, 35 Quebec.
	Didn't he pronounce Quebec because it's really the way they pronounce it?
	He said Quebec.
	He said Quebec.
	Yes.
	Yeah.
	That's the way I say it, too.
	I know it's Quebec, but even if you listen to the pilots, they all say Quebec.
	I think they kind of put the UW sound in there.
	Yeah.
	But anyway, he was telling me about all the stuff that can be done and everything they're doing and who's fighting who.
	And he did say, it's real, man.
	He said, the Israelis are the worst.
	They're number one when it comes to cyber warfare.
	And then it's us, and then it's the Russians, and then it's the Chinese.
	And of course, the Chinese are always put up front and center.
	Whenever they're talking about it in Congress, it's always, ooh, Chiners.
	Ooh, the Chiners are going to do it.
	But according to him, it's the Israelis who are really the worst.
	That makes nothing but sense.
	And he's telling me about all the viruses, right?
	The Stuxnet and then Flame.
	According to him, Flame is actually the virus that can get into your phone and activate remotely.
	So they can turn on your phone or your microphone or your camera or locate you.
	He said it was Flame that does that.
	Had you heard anything about this?
	Nope, not at all.
	All I know is I just keep putting a piece of gaffer's tape over every camera in the house.
	Well, that, of course, is indeed a real security against the camera part, but the microphone is still going to activate.
	I'm not yacking away that much to myself.
	I don't sit around talking to myself.
	Yeah, but Meanie's around.
	Maybe you guys are talking stuff.
	Yeah, we talk about the buttermilk.
	Hey, Mimi, did you hide all the cash?
	Yes.
	All the cash.
	We got the cash in and the can.
	So he's telling me about all this cool stuff that can be done.
	And I'm like, okay, so is PGP, is that good encryption?
	He says, hell no.
	He says, totally compromised.
	And even if it wasn't compromised, NSA has computers.
	They can crack anything, anything within, at the most, a matter of hours, just by brute force, if they really want it.
	But he says, PGP pretty much compromised.
	The only thing he knew that was completely secure, because I'm just trying to find out what's secure and what's insecure, is this thing called Iron Key.
	An iron key is where you put the data onto a special kind of USB disk.
	I'm not quite sure exactly how it works, but you can't transfer it over the internet.
	You have to physically hand it off.
	But if you try to open up the iron key USB disk, then it self-destructs.
	And if you try to decrypt something more than 10 times at low-level formats, it was a really interesting conversation.
	Available at ironprotector.com.
	Really?
	Did you Google it?
	Really?
	I thought you were just sitting there listening to me.
	No, I never listen to you.
	I'm always Googling you, trying to catch you.
	Iron Key.
	Data Identity Workspace, mobile security solutions from iMation.
	Oh, that's interesting.
	The disk drive company.
	He says it reacts like a disk drive, or it acts like one.
	Anyway, he said Iron Key is the only thing that is really secure because you have to have it in your physical possession, and then you really have to know what you're doing.
	Otherwise, it destroys whatever information was on it.
	And then here comes the best.
	So I'm like, well, I'm thinking there's other ways.
	And he says that, funnily enough...
	The best way to communicate across distance, etc., is where they're no longer paying attention.
	He says they've completely stopped listening to amateur radio.
	Listen to this.
	They don't teach guys Morse code anymore.
	He says if you really want to do something, do it there out in the open because no one's listening.
	He says ham radio is the perfect place to do it.
	In Morse code, of course.
	In Morse code, yeah.
	I've been practicing all weekend.
	How are you doing?
	Good, actually.
	And you know what I got for Android?
	Remember, there was a joke, I think it was maybe a year ago, they had like, I think LL Cool J was in the commercial.
	Google did a joke about they were going to do a Morse code keyboard.
	Do you remember this?
	It did the rounds?
	I do not remember this at all, and it would be something I'd note.
	It was supposed to be Gmail key.
	Hold on.
	Parody.
	Hold on.
	You would have known this, John.
	Come on.
	Gmail.
	It was last year.
	LL Cool J was even in the commercial.
	It was funny.
	Hold on a second.
	Let me see if I can find this for you.
	Gmail tap is what it was.
	It was an April Fool's joke.
	Come on.
	You didn't hear about this?
	No, I write April Fool's Gags.
	I don't read them.
	Okay, well let me play this video for you and let's see if we can jog your memory a little bit.
	Hold on.
	It's taking a sweet time to play, thanks to all the crap that's on the internet.
	Here we go.
	Technology is everywhere today, and everyone has a smartphone.
	Think about the size of that device.
	It's only two inches, two and a half inches, and we're trying to cram an entire 26-key keyboard into that space.
	It's so many keys.
	I feel constricted by the keyboard.
	I just feel very overwhelmed.
	There's so many buttons.
	It's time to think about, how can we do this better using the technology that we have today?
	And that's where Gmail Tap comes in.
	A better way to type.
	So I've always known that I was related to Samuel F. B. Morse.
	He's my great-grandfather's grandfather's brother.
	When Reed Morse first came to my office...
	So this goes on for like two minutes.
	But essentially, they've replaced...
	Yeah, I know.
	I saw this.
	You're right.
	But this exists.
	So, of course, there's three apps that you can get from the Google Play Store that actually give you a Morse keyboard with just a dit and a da.
	And I've been using that for the past two days.
	It's great.
	It's a great way to practice.
	And when you think about it, it's much safer.
	If you're driving and you want to text somebody, you don't have to look at your keyboard.
	You can just go...
	You just tap it out like that.
	It's much safer.
	And receiving is the same way.
	You could just listen to whatever message comes in just being signed back to you.
	And then, who was telling me, someone was telling me that there's a ring in the works.
	I thought, what a great night promotion this would be.
	A ring that communicates through, I guess, Bluetooth, with your phone, and you can literally, you're tapping the ring, and it's then sending text messages to your phone, and the ring will vibrate when the messages come back.
	I want to see you using this.
	Well, I have been using, I swear to God, I have been using the Morse code keypad, and it's really cool.
	I love it.
	Did you know Samuel Morse, by the way, was a great, great oil painter?
	No, I didn't know that.
	Yeah, seminal, actually.
	Well, I'm sure that if you had an original Samuel Morse, it would be valuable regardless.
	No, no, no.
	He was considered an important painter.
	I don't know.
	I don't get how he got into the other thing.
	Yeah, it was very important.
	Okay.
	If you look at any history of art book, he's in there big time.
	Anyway, so once again, I'm ahead of the curve and on the trend, and I'm seeing this happening all over.
	We've got the kids going back to vinyl.
	You know what my daughter showed up with here the other day?
	Vinyl?
	No.
	And she was wearing it?
	No, a Polaroid camera.
	Oh, God.
	You can't even get the film.
	You have to buy antique film.
	You are wrong, sir.
	I looked at it.
	I think it's Fujitsu or Fuji makes a new Polaroid.
	She bought it new.
	It's a Polaroid camera.
	John, really, that keyboard is so loud.
	For a reason.
	And they have a very wide Polaroid film they sell with it.
	No, they don't sell the old film, so we can't buy an old Polaroid.
	No, it's new.
	It's new film, but it's still the Polaroid system.
	Yeah, but it doesn't have the Polaroid dimensions.
	Can I put it in an old Polaroid?
	I don't think so.
	No.
	That's the whole point.
	What point are you trying to make?
	Well, here's the point I'm trying to make if you really want to know.
	Generally speaking, most people build these cameras and then they sell the film and they make all the money on the film.
	So why don't you make the film backward compatible, I ask you?
	Because they're making their own film.
	The kids want these new dimensions.
	They don't want the old dimension.
	They want the new dimension.
	That's not the reason.
	Yes, because...
	Oh, this little picture is too wide.
	Give me a break.
	Okay, and then I heard about the...
	The kids are doing all kinds of stuff, man.
	The kids.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	While you hang out with the kids, you learn something.
	These kids you're talking about are in their 20s.
	Yeah, they're kids.
	Have you heard about primitive skills courses?
	Let me think.
	Okay.
	Gee, your brain is really loud today, John.
	Yes, at the wildernesscollege.com.
	But this is big.
	Primitive skills courses.
	It's like kids are going out because they have no money and they know they're going to be living on the street pretty soon.
	They're taking these courses on how to make fire.
	Oh, this is a good idea.
	How to light a match, you idiot.
	14-day primitive living.
	14-day primitive living course.
	Price, $1,725.
	There are cheaper ones available.
	I'm reliably informed.
	Let's hope.
	That's the yuppie version.
	Anyway, let me then just say that there is actually some real news that surprised me.
	It was about a little less...
	Then, four years ago, President Obama was inaugurated as the 44th President of the United States of America.
	And something happened which led you, my friend, my partner in this entire venture known as the best podcast in the universe, to say something to this day you still believe to be true.
	Do you know what I'm referring to?
	It could either be the two Obamas.
	That would be the one.
	That's exactly what I'm talking about.
	So President Obama had two inaugurations, and we found this rather strange, but you then came up with your theory, which I think you hold to, that there are two Obamas.
	And they both had to be sworn in to both be legal, correct?
	Yeah, that was the idea.
	So guess what's happening on January 20th, 2013?
	They're going to have two swearing-ins again?
	Yes, they are.
	Why?
	Well...
	Because there's two Obamas.
	Well, yes.
	The way they're selling it is because the 20th falls on a Sunday.
	They're going to do a private ceremony on Sunday.
	And then the day following, on the 21st, they're going to do the public ceremony.
	Have you ever heard of such malarkey?
	You know, what's interesting about this, this reminds me of the every year during Ramadan or one of these Muslim holy things.
	He's not wearing his watch and his ring.
	He takes his watches and rings and everything off and then he disappears and he doesn't eat.
	And he does all this Muslim stuff.
	He looks thin.
	And everybody says, hey, it's just a coincidence.
	Every year it's the same thing.
	In fact, if you Google this...
	Every year it happens.
	And if you Google it, you see a story happening every year.
	Nobody ever refers to the previous story.
	Hold on a second.
	I think only one of the two Obamas is a Muslim.
	This is why I think it gets complicated because they're always talking about the watches in the shop.
	How many times have you ever brought your watch to repairs?
	Yeah, and we watched a year at the same time.
	I've never taken a watch in for repair, ever.
	But you totally toss it out if it's not working.
	Maybe in the 1800s.
	John, where's your watch?
	My watch is in for repairs.
	Good man.
	But I was surprised that they're going to do it again.
	And, you know, are we the only people who think this is because there's two Obamas?
	I'm sure we are.
	Yeah, probably.
	Yeah, nobody pays anything.
	That's just the way they want to do it.
	Nobody even thinks that there's anything screwy going on.
	No.
	It's just like, oh, okay, that makes total sense.
	You know, it's a Sunday.
	We can't have an inauguration on a Sunday.
	I don't know why.
	Heaven forbid.
	Ooh, maybe it is a heaven thing.
	No.
	And maybe it's because of a football game.
	Oh.
	When's the Super Bowl?
	Well, that's a good question.
	I think the Super Bowl now is in February, but there'd be a playoff game on that Sunday.
	Well, can't we?
	Isn't there some book of football knowledge you can consult?
	Let me see.
	I could.
	Give me the date of the...
	Sunday, January 20th, 2013.
	January 20th.
	I have to say that no doubt about it...
	By the way, he's interrupted football games before, so they can't be that important.
	It's the NFC Championship game?
	It could be.
	That's a done deal.
	Sunday, January 20th, 2013, NFL-NFC Championship game.
	Yeah, we can't have an inauguration on a Sunday.
	Not if there's a championship game.
	No.
	There's your answer.
	But that's one thing.
	But then still, because it has to be the 20th for some reason, I guess, is there some constitutional reason it has to be on the 20th?
	I think it says in the Constitution.
	No.
	Really?
	I don't know.
	Maybe.
	Why is he not in here?
	Let's ask a simple question.
	Okay.
	Why don't you consult the Book of Knowledge.
	I think you want the 20th Amendment. .
	Inauguration takes place in the Convention of Bada-da-da every four years.
	Prior to the 20th Amendment, the date was March 4th.
	Oh, well here it is.
	According to the 20th Amendment, it says...
	That was too lame duckish, that's why they changed it.
	The terms of the President and Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January, and the terms of Senators and Representatives at noon on the 3rd day of January.
	So, it has to be on the 20th.
	Why can't it be before then?
	Well, no, because then you would basically have two presidents and two vice presidents because their term ends at noon on the 20th.
	But if it's the same guy, if it's the same guy, what difference does it make?
	That's a good point.
	That's a good point.
	You could do it on Saturday or Friday, for that matter.
	Right.
	Or you could just do it on Monday and we'd just be without a president for half a day.
	Whoop-de-doo.
	Big deal.
	Somebody needs to have the red button.
	You think we'll melt?
	We don't want Nancy Pelosi with the red button.
	No, Valerie Jarrett carries the briefcase, man.
	What are you talking about, Nancy Pelosi?
	She doesn't do anything.
	So anyway, but I thought it was very interesting that they are going to do a small inauguration privately on Sunday and then have a public one on Monday.
	I find that to be suspicious at the least, especially since you alerted me to the fact that there were quite possibly two President Obamas.
	Well, okay.
	It's one for the Red Book.
	Well, what are you going to put in?
	I was right.
	Correct again.
	Hey, so I'm up here in Canada.
	No, you're not.
	I'm not really in Canada.
	I might as well be.
	So I'm watching a lot of Canadian stuff.
	Yeah.
	So I'm up here, and I think there may be some connection to our show in the Canadian area, and the Canadians always want us to do more Canadian stuff, so I have a couple good things here.
	I'm going to play one of them.
	I have a question about Canada, and then the answer to the question about Canada, and I think you'll be...
	I'm going to do the question first, you answer it, and then...
	Actually, don't even try to answer it.
	Am I allowed?
	Am I allowed to...
	You can take a shot at it.
	Here are your questions!
	The waters of Canada's West Coast support more than 9,600 what?
	9,600...
	Can you repeat the question, Alex?
	There's 9,600 of something in the...
	Okay, okay.
	Species of salmon.
	Am I wrong?
	The waters of Canada's West Coast support more than 9,600 what?
	Charlie.
	severed feet.
	And this is their version of Jeopardy or is it a Carmody show?
	That's good.
	That was a snappy answer.
	Holy crap, I can't believe I didn't answer that.
	I was hoping you, I was fearful that you might.
	I could have come close to that.
	I was actually taking you serious.
	That's a good one.
	That's a good one.
	In fact, I'm going to give it to you early, you know that?
	It is premature.
	No, I'm going to give it to you early.
	It's been a while since you made me go into a loud roar of laughter.
	And, by the way, thank you, Buzzkill Jr., for filling up my screen with information about the presidential inauguration.
	He does that.
	He does that.
	Does he do this, like, just for normal things?
	You say, did you take out the trash?
	Yeah, on a daily basis.
	Did you take out the trash and he'll give you the history of garbage?
	Does he do this?
	He's done that a couple of times because you'll go from the history of garbage and how different it is from the way it is in France.
	Okay.
	Great.
	Well, anyway, a very hearty in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
	Well, in the morning to you, Adam Curry.
	In the morning to all ships that see boots on the ground, feet in the water, and subs in the air.
	Also, in the morning to all the knights and dames out there.
	Yes, indeed.
	Knights and dames.
	And, of course, our artists who are always filling up.
	Noagendaartgenerator.com.
	Thank you, Neil Campbell, for the art on...
	Even though it was a picture of our two heads, which we discourage and do not use...
	So please do not think this is a signal that it's okay to use our heads again, because we find that quite boring and tedious.
	It was the best piece of art, so we appreciate that you did that for us.
	We went the first couple of years with nothing but pictures of our heads, and it became very old.
	It did.
	It did.
	Just like, oh, really?
	Really?
	More heads?
	And in the morning to all the human resources there in our chat room, all lined up, charged up, ready to go.
	NoagendaStream.com, NoagendaChat.net.
	Good to have you all on board.
	Of course, we might as well go straight into our...
	Do we have a producer today?
	Is that what we have?
	Yeah, we have one executive producer and two associates.
	Because as predicted, after a great Thanksgiving, we basically had a jingle for that.
	Where is it?
	We had our own version of the fiscal clip.
	Ah!
	It's a jingle.
	It's a new jingle.
	It's our fiscal cliff.
	The fiscal cliff is real, people, and it's in our donations.
	Erwin Vrolick.
	This is actually a very well-pronounced frolic.
	Frolic in Dordrecht.
	And do you know what frolic means?
	It means frolic in the grass.
	Very close.
	It means happy.
	Happy.
	Erwin happy.
	Yeah, that's what I meant.
	Erwin Froelich, yes.
	Erwin Froelich and Dordrecht, $309.81.
	Dear John and Adam, due to the iOS data bug, I'm now paying for my favorite podcast.
	You might want to explain how that works.
	Yeah, because Apple has not fixed their data bug in iOS 6 or even 6.1, I'm reliably informed.
	So it re-downloads things like big files like podcasts multiple times so that you hit your data cap, bust through it, and then our charts overage.
	Yeah, it's a scam.
	And Apple is...
	They're not...
	Copping to it for sure, but at this point you've got to think that it's almost collusion just to get people to...
	They get a piece of the action from AT&T. It's totally corrupt.
	Do you think they get a piece of the data action?
	My understanding is they get a piece of the whole bill.
	Wow.
	Well then it's...
	It's RICO. This is RICO. This is a RICO case.
	Class action RICO because it's telephony.
	Well, it's not that they haven't been warned by you.
	I mean, if I was a lawyer and you can see that Apple's iOS has something to do with it and they get money...
	And I have emailed...
	And they could just cite your complaining.
	I have had email communications with people inside the company...
	By the way, chat room, yes, there is a 6.1 in beta, which I have seen and it has not been fixed.
	I have emailed people inside the company who have not gotten back to me, who usually get back to me, so there's something up.
	Because you know what's going on.
	I said, hey man, you've got to check this out.
	I said, here's where you need to look.
	Yeah, I'll go check on that.
	And then it's complete radio silence from people who normally get back to me.
	So there's something Apple internally knows.
	And I think they're afraid of a huge lawsuit.
	Because once you release something...
	With a problem like this, it's not like you can't automatically upgrade people to fix the problem, you see.
	This thing is going to be out here for the next two years until people are finally, in fact, probably not until another phone comes out will we really see this start to drop off.
	Because how many people do you know who use an iPhone who are like, oh yeah, I can't wait to upgrade to the next version.
	No, most people who use an iPhone are like, just like, big button, big button.
	Push big button, get web browser.
	I like app.
	That's people who use iPhones.
	Yeah, there you go.
	Right?
	Well, that's been my experience.
	So, there's a problem that won't go away, and they know it.
	So your show keeps me sane, he says, and my daily commute bearable.
	I believe bad times are ahead, and only by listening to your show can I get ahead enough of the curve to beat the rest during the dark times.
	I'm even starting my ham exam preparations.
	I find it hard to put a monetary value on the tremendous value you provide, so I chose my birthday, 309-81, the 3rd of September, 81, which is numerology.
	Why is...
	Hold on a second.
	Wait a minute.
	Stop the press.
	Same birthday as Adam.
	Not the same year.
	I'm also September 3rd.
	Well, that's peculiar.
	How about that, huh?
	All three squares will see for yourself.
	I'm now working as a network CIS admin for an oil and gas company operating on the North Sea.
	We're the unit that actually gets the stuff out of the seabed, and thus we are far away from pipeline politics.
	We are the best source to find out whether it will be controlled by the Germans or the Russians next year.
	I don't think karma is something you ask for, but I'll happily receive any karma you're willing to give me.
	I do have a ringtone request, which is the following.
	Now, you're going to have to do this because my bell, I can't ring a few times because it...
	Because it sticks, so I have to shake it and get the top.
	This is the northern bell.
	The northern bell is no good.
	Oh, hold on a second.
	Well, because, see, we actually talked about this just before we started.
	I'm building up a whole new jingle soundboard, so I have all the things that people ever request, and I, of course, did not have the bell on it.
	Okay, I can do the bell, but it's not going to be ding, ding, ding.
	It's going to be ding, ding, ding.
	No, no, no.
	I can do it.
	Well, I can't do a ding, ding, ding.
	I can do...
	Oh no, I can do that.
	I'll do the couple bells.
	Ring the bell a few times, followed by the little girl yay and hot milf.
	Oh, okay.
	I'm good to go.
	Ready?
	Yeah.
	Yay!
	That's one hot milf, baby.
	Did he want a karma?
	Because he said he didn't really want a karma.
	He would happily take a karma, but I don't think you want it as a ringtone request.
	Here it comes, though.
	You've got karma.
	I've also separated You've Been De-Douche from Douchebag, finally.
	Those two are now in different places.
	Oh, that's good.
	By the way, let me give you a ringtone.
	Just go to Sanford.
	I'll get you a ringtone.
	You might want to use one of these.
	Is anybody out there?
	This is a freebie.
	Ready?
	Hey, answer the phone!
	Onward.
	Can I just say something?
	That ringtone will come back to haunt you for years.
	For years.
	You know, I did a CD once.
	It was for one of the magazines.
	It was a free CD of my saying a bunch of one-liners for Apple.
	Oh, really?
	Mac users.
	Somebody still has a copy of that.
	I'd like to get it back.
	Mark Borghese in Las Vegas, Nevada, 22222.
	Russian...
	Whoops, let me get this thing back.
	Why?
	Because I can get a Parliament mumble little girl shut up slave in the morning.
	Hold on a second.
	Let me...
	I'm just adding stuff as we go.
	I mean, we might as well do it right, because I forgot that people also sometimes want the in the mornings on there.
	I mean, seriously?
	Right, they want all of them.
	It's not easy.
	Okay, so where are we at?
	We're at Shut Up Slave.
	Parliament mumble, little girl, shut up slave in the morning.
	Okay.
	Shut up, Slay!
	In the morning There we go.
	Tight.
	No, it's not tight at all.
	But I'm getting used to where everything is on the new soundboard.
	It'll be a slow show in that regard.
	It's good because we don't have a lot to do.
	Scott Malkinthine in Seddon, Victoria.
	20733.
	Scott from Melbourne.
	Nuts.
	Hey, Shittison.
	I have a semi-bonerish story.
	Sorry.
	Sorry.
	I've been a semi-boner.
	This is a joke, get it?
	This is only my second donation.
	I donated 50 bucks in March when I was living in Tokyo and 5% of my tax return, which I was larger than usual because I've been so sick.
	Sorry.
	What?
	What was that?
	That was Mickey laughing at the joke.
	Which I was larger than usual because I've been so sick I was able to claim medical expenses as a tax deduction.
	Yay!
	Disease.
	As a result, my employment has been unstable, but my temporary slave contract was just extended by a full two months.
	So here's 207.32.
	I'm kicking in the extra penny to make it 207.33.
	Why?
	Because 33 is the magic number.
	Please dedouche me as I didn't ask for one last time and give me some jobs, jobs, jobs.
	Yay!
	For jobs karma.
	You've been dedouched.
	Uh, fuck.
	I can't find it.
	I'm liking this new system.
	I can't find it.
	I put it in here.
	Slick.
	I'm going back to the old school way, man.
	This is no good.
	Hold on a second.
	Let me try this again.
	I'm sorry.
	Maybe...
	Sometimes you just don't need to fix things that aren't broken.
	What did he want?
	He wanted...
	D-douche.
	Jobs, jobs, jobs.
	Yay.
	Karma.
	Is that it?
	Yeah, but it's the yay.
	It's the one that's the old, it's the Nancy Pelosi one that's got the yay built in.
	Oh, okay, okay, okay.
	I got it.
	Here we go.
	You've been deep to jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
	Let's vote for jobs!
	Yeah!
	Yeah, I'm back.
	I'm back, baby.
	I'm just going to use the old system.
	Screw it.
	Apparently.
	Screw the new system.
	That's no good.
	Well, at least you got a dry run-in.
	Yeah, well, now we know.
	Very dry, I might add.
	Yeah, that's it, right?
	Yeah, that's all we got.
	That's all we got.
	I'd like to remind you of your divorce.
	As we fall off the income cliff, go to Dvorak.org slash NA for next Thursday's show.
	We'd appreciate some response here.
	Also, channel Dvorak.com slash NA. NoagendaShow.com and NoagendaNation.com.
	There's donate buttons there if you can't get to the real one, which is Dvorak.org slash NA. Well, I was going to answer NBC1's question in the chat, who says, any way to listen to the podcast without the donation segments?
	Yes.
	First of all, there's this thing that I think Steve Jobs invented called the fast-forward button.
	It's an amazing, amazing...
	Or, you can do that, and then you can miss possible real entertainment embedded in one.
	Oh, we have some gems in it.
	We always inject some gems.
	Yeah.
	But that's okay if you want to skip past that.
	That's okay if you don't care.
	You don't think our listeners' comments are worth listening to.
	I think many of them are quite interesting.
	Many of them very insightful.
	And full of real nuggets of information.
	But oh no.
	This is very typical.
	Very typical of generation, what is it?
	Generation Y? What are we at now?
	Millennium?
	Millennials?
	It's the generation cheapo.
	Generation, uh, can't get a job generation.
	I don't know what they are.
	Generation boners is what we shall call them, but you can go out now and propagate our formula, boners!
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Mew!
	Mew!
	Shut up, slaves!
	Hey, shut up, slaves!
	Alright, can I just say something right now?
	Hit it.
	I'm really, really sick and tired now.
	I mean, it's one thing, you want to go drone Americans there in Indianapolis, okay.
	But the buck stops when you're droning strippers, okay?
	This has got to stop.
	No strippers were hurt in this droning.
	Yeah, but they drone their place of work.
	Which I ask you, why weren't they there working when they got droned?
	This is bull crap.
	Thank you very much for pointing that out.
	It's 5.30 in the afternoon.
	Scores opens for lunch.
	Come on!
	Yeah, there's strippers at lunch and they work through the afternoon all through the night.
	I wouldn't know...
	So what do you think is really going on?
	Because there is no real explanation for these things, my explanation of local U.S. droning is just as valid as everybody else's.
	I got an explanation.
	Okay, I'm all ears.
	Well, both of these things have been attributed to gas pipelines exploding, and now there's been a couple of overseas examples, and this is all part of the let's redo the infrastructure of the USA. If you want to look for a meme, look for the 100-year-old infrastructure.
	Right.
	100-year-old pipes.
	100-year-old water mains.
	100-year-old hookers.
	We need new hookers because they're all too old and they're no good.
	So I would agree with you, certainly, on this one.
	But I guess it does have to be drastic.
	This is how we do things these days.
	It's like you've got to do something big.
	It hurt a few people.
	It didn't kill anybody this time.
	I find it very, very peculiar indeed that there were no strippers in scores.
	That's crazy.
	At happy hour, no less.
	And how come not one newscaster, these guys are paid to do this, not one newscaster, Ask the simple question.
	Where were the strippers?
	How come we don't have strippers being interviewed?
	And here's Chanel.
	I was so happy that I wasn't in the bar and the DJ hadn't called my name.
	Right?
	That's about it.
	You nailed that.
	Maybe there was an interview.
	Maybe we just haven't seen it.
	I don't know.
	You know, here's what we have to do.
	I have to put a request out there.
	This is something we did, I think, two or three years ago.
	And I'm requesting it again.
	If anybody has a sling box...
	I would like to link to it, and I need a better network than we developed last time.
	So send me the information about the Slingbox you have so you can put it in.
	There's a piece of software you can run on your computer so you can look at your Slingbox, and I won't interfere with the Slingbox during working hours or when you're using it.
	I don't know how popular the Slingbox still is.
	I don't know if people are still using them.
	I mean, are they really still as big as they are?
	They're advertising still.
	I think they're doing okay.
	Now, the reason why I'm still going to hold on to my...
	And I like the infrastructure thing.
	I think you're probably right on.
	It's very radical to do this.
	But there's two things.
	First of all, I think they're laughing at us.
	Because first of all, we have...
	Where did this take place?
	Massachusetts nuts.
	Right?
	But then, they've upped the number from 28 houses being demolished in Indianapolis to...
	33.
	Now, I mean, really?
	I mean, this is like, come on.
	I mean, it was 28.
	We talked about 28 on Thursday.
	And then just hours later, oh, no, it's 33 now.
	I mean, that means something's up.
	The thing we have to do is figure out what PR agency is behind...
	It's obviously Bechtel or one of these big construction companies that needs some business.
	They need some work because we're shutting down Iraq.
	Right.
	Iraq.
	Iraq, yeah.
	I'm looking now.
	If there's former stripper...
	No, that's the hot dog stripper.
	You're right.
	Not a single person interviewed a stripper.
	How crazy is that?
	It's like the perfect human interest story.
	Yeah, everybody likes to see a stripper being interviewed.
	I mean, seriously, even women.
	I think women especially like it.
	I told you they're stupid.
	Meanwhile, they're looking at fashion tips.
	Like, okay, that's what I've got to wear.
	That's what turns my man on.
	But I'm reading through the news report.
	So 42 buildings.
	Apparently scores was ground zero for this thing.
	I mean, we should be seeing G-string strippers.
	I mean, there should just be strippers blown to bits, but no.
	So they knew.
	Clearly they were in on the deal, which makes sense because the guys that run these kinds of businesses can probably be on the inside of things.
	But apparently the workers were at the scene.
	John, check this out.
	The workers were at the scene.
	They're like, oh no, she's going to blow.
	They hide behind a truck.
	The thing blows 42 houses away, but these guys are like, yeah, they went to the hospital, but they're going to be okay.
	I mean, come on.
	You're hiding behind a truck.
	42 homes were demolished, but your truck is okay?
	I mean, come on.
	This sounds weird.
	I don't know.
	They're just pushing their luck here, but the public is so stupid, and they buy, and they're, okay, oh, that's terrible.
	100-year-old infrastructure.
	You watch it, the 100-year meme is all in place.
	Put that into the book.
	100-year-old infrastructure.
	Well...
	I am starting to...
	I don't see it as a...
	I don't really see it as a big meme yet about infrastructure.
	Yeah, I'm 100 years old, 100 years old, you're right.
	Okay, put that in the book, The 100-Year-Old Infrastructure.
	In your book, yeah.
	So, I'm starting to understand how...
	I mean, of course, I don't know everything.
	I'm just a disc jockey, but I'm learning too.
	And what I'm learning is there are certain things you just got to shut up about.
	Like, the military...
	If we actually reduced our military spending, which is part of what the fiscal cliff is, right?
	They're going to be spending significantly less.
	Well, significantly.
	What is it?
	$100 billion or something like that?
	I think it's more than that.
	It's quite a bit.
	It's got to be more than that.
	It's like $400 billion or something.
	Yeah, but that's pretty much what we do, you see.
	That's all we do.
	We are a giant empire of military stuff.
	Like Rome, and we have a military that's huge.
	It's beyond huge.
	And Mickey and I were talking about this the other day before she left me all alone for Thanksgiving.
	I said, we traveled around the country.
	We've done it twice now.
	We're going to do a third year West Coast.
	And we have met, the majority of people we've met, work for the military or the military-industrial complex, one way or the other.
	That is what we do, and if we're not doing that, we're in the drug business.
	That's basically it.
	Armaments, drugs, military, soldiering.
	And strippers.
	And fast food.
	Yes, and some strippers.
	And strippers are part of the deal.
	I find it unfortunate that we have to go all over the world blowing people up.
	But making the stuff and selling it, I'm all for that, kind of.
	I guess that's what you do.
	The big drug dealer, he's got to be armed and got to be able to protect himself.
	And the big arms dealer, you don't want to sell too much to one guy so he can come back and take your stuff.
	You just got to be big and ugly and oafish.
	And that's what we do.
	And until we all wake up and say, hey, we're not going to do this anymore, it's going to continue forever.
	Nothing will change.
	Nothing.
	Well, I don't see how we can go back to the old ways.
	This is so much money to be made.
	It's so much fun, too.
	Well, if you like blowing things up, it is.
	Yeah.
	It's beautiful.
	We've always liked blowing things up, apparently, Americans.
	Well, we sold another...
	Did I tell you that?
	So we sold another...
	Another fad.
	I think you mentioned it on Thursday.
	Yeah, right.
	Another fad.
	Another $6.5 billion to Saudi Arabia.
	$3.5 billion for gear.
	$3 billion for other.
	I mean, come on.
	Why wouldn't you want to be an other?
	That's great.
	Other.
	And here's how it works.
	I mean, by the way, I would recommend a great career path is to get into the military, you know, get into cyber, obviously.
	Cyber is where it's at.
	Do a couple years.
	Do a couple tours.
	Or, you know, go for the full, what is it, 20 before you can retire, I think, 20 years?
	Get out.
	And then go do the exact same job so you get your full pension, which includes everything except the housing allowance, I think.
	Then go do the same job for $250,000 to $300,000 a year.
	Yeah, Blackwater or these other companies.
	Yeah.
	And you can do it just in an office.
	You know, it's not like anywhere crazy.
	You may have, you know, maybe deployed to the green zone in Iraq or something.
	Yeah.
	I know a guy working in the green zone.
	Never leaves it.
	So the...
	Sir GQ was telling me about Djibouti and how they're...
	This is where they launch everything in Africa from Djibouti and it's called...
	OLC, Operation, I think it was OLC, he said, Operation Lion, not Lion King, that's what I remember, Operation Lion King, it was Operation Lion something.
	And they deploy everything from Djibouti.
	And right now, we're droning the other tribe in Somalia.
	Basically, the way it works in Somalia is there's two tribes fighting against each other.
	And the one tribe that has said to us, hey, if you protect us, then we'll give you the drilling rights for the oil.
	Those are the guys we're for.
	And we're droning the other guys, all from Djibouti.
	It's crazy.
	So we take our military...
	And we rent it out to these other people, and then we operate it, and then we drone some saps, and then we go take the oil.
	I mean, we are the biggest a-holes on the planet, basically.
	We like our oil.
	Yeah.
	What's funny, of course, is the three trillion barrels that seem to be sitting under North Dakota.
	Yeah, the shale oil.
	Well, oil shale or shale oil are one of the two.
	They're actually two different things.
	Anyway, there's three trillion barrels.
	Do you know what the total consumption of all the oil is?
	It has been since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution.
	I mentioned this exact thing to you on Thursday.
	It's one trillion barrels.
	I just thought you'd forget.
	It was a test?
	I pass!
	I pass!
	So peak oil was not true.
	Can we just establish that?
	Peak oil was a lie?
	Who thought it was?
	There are a lot of people.
	Same people that think a lot of stuff is true.
	Science is in.
	Well, here's what's happening now.
	Science!
	New report came out from the UNEP. These are the guys that the United Nations, kind of like the new guys on the block who are doing all the climate change stuff.
	So, remember the report I told you about, the World Bank report?
	And this is maybe two shows ago.
	About the world heating up four degrees.
	This is the new meme.
	That's a classic.
	Let's just change the numbers around.
	Make it up.
	Alright, so listen to how the media is responding to this report.
	A new report claims if the world's greenhouse gas emissions are not reduced, a doomsday scenario could be in our not so distant future.
	Doomsday!
	A World Bank report has warned that global temperatures could rise by four degrees Celsius by the end of this century.
	The report says if we don't do something now, by 2100 coral reef ecosystems will disappear, sea levels will rise up by three feet, and the 22nd century will be characterized by wild weather, drought, and famine.
	The report is called Turn Down the Heat.
	It claims other effects could include extreme heat waves during almost all summer months that would be specifically pinpointed to the Mediterranean, North Africa, Middle East, and parts of the United States.
	Severe impacts on agriculture, water resources, human health, biodiversity, and ecosystem.
	I mean, I don't know which jingle to play.
	I mean, I'll play...
	So, hold on, hold on.
	Just let me play a little more of this report, John.
	A little more.
	This is so beautiful.
	Which could lead to large-scale displacement of populations.
	The report also predicts the poorest people in the world will pay the highest price because of their inability to adapt to a drastic climate change.
	Now, this is where they go wrong.
	This is where they go wrong.
	I mean, so I totally get scaring people about drought and severe weather and people moving from one state to the other and we're going to drown.
	But the mistake is it's going to affect the poorest people.
	Oh, screw those guys.
	Who gives a crap about them as long as it's not me?
	What?
	I'm just saying, maybe that's exactly the point.
	That's what they're trying to do.
	That's the real communication.
	They're saying, look, we're going to give you this report.
	It's going to screw the poor people, so don't get worked up about it.
	Interesting.
	Let me listen to the rest of this report.
	Countries that are poorer and less technologically advanced will surely suffer the worst consequences of climate change, as evidenced by the way such areas are hit by natural disasters.
	Yeah, like New York and New Jersey, some of the poorest of people in the world.
	President of World Bank Group Jim Yong Kim explains the implications on future generations.
	Listen to this guy.
	This guy is great.
	You know, I have a three-year-old son, and when he's my age, Oh.
	He could be living in a completely different world.
	Well, he will be, you idiot.
	You're like 40.
	Of course it would be a different world.
	One in which we don't have enough food.
	Oh, not enough food!
	You're going to starve, kid!
	Uh-oh.
	Feed our population.
	One in which cities are inundated with water.
	That's...
	We're inundated with water.
	World Bank is currently helping 130 countries mitigate climate change.
	For Newsy, I'm Jasmine Bailey.
	And so that will also be...
	So what's coming, of course, is the carbon tax in America.
	Yeah, it's all about carbon tax.
	I wanted to play another...
	And by the way, can we just repeat our basic thesis here?
	If you want to stop all this carbon emission, why don't you just cap it?
	They won't do that.
	It's always cap and trade, cap and trade.
	In other words, they don't change anything, but then they tax you for it.
	It's a scam.
	It's a money grab.
	Explain cap.
	Well, in other words, you say, here I am.
	I'm going to put out 100 tons of CO2, but I'm only allowed to put out 85 tons.
	So I've got 15 tons that they have to pay money to push out, which makes no sense, because it seems to me that you'd just have to stop it or you'd just be put out of business or something.
	It's that dangerous.
	But instead, they trade it with some guy who is allowed to put out 85 tons, but he's only putting out 10 tons, and so you buy 15 of his tons.
	This doesn't change anything.
	No.
	What's changed?
	Al Gore just got richer.
	Ah!
	This report was even better, though.
	This is the Voice of America, which still exists, apparently.
	Yeah, oh no.
	The Voice of America does video now.
	The first decade of this century was the hottest on record, and the vast majority of scientists attribute the changes to greenhouse gases.
	Oh, hold on a second.
	The science is in!
	That trap heat in the lower atmosphere.
	Those gases can be generated naturally or emitted by human activities, such as the burning of fossil fuels.
	Extreme weather due to climate change is the new normal.
	Yeah, there it is.
	There it is.
	Extreme weather due to climate change is the new normal.
	Please.
	And then listen to this report, how they lie about, just listen to the lie.
	So now, I think she just said, extreme weather, because of global warming, is the new normal, and that is what Ban Ki-moon said.
	Did I just hear that correctly?
	I don't know.
	You know, it was so confused, her structure, that I don't know really if she said that.
	Let's hear it again.
	...can be generated naturally or emitted by human activities, such as the burning of fossil fuels.
	Extreme weather due to climate change is the new normal, said UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon.
	Said UN... Secretary General Bucky Moon.
	Earlier this month.
	Now let's listen to what he says.
	The change remains clear and urgent.
	To reduce greenhouse gas emissions, to strengthen adaptation to the even larger climate shocks we know are on the way, no matter what we do.
	And to reach a legally binding climate agreement by 2015, as states agreed to do last year in Durban.
	Honestly, I don't know what Bunky Moon said.
	He didn't say the new normal, that's for sure.
	But I didn't hear the words new or normal or anything like that.
	So they're just lying.
	This is how they do it.
	I mean, this is actually a very good system.
	Here, I'm going to show you how this works.
	Well, this is like that crazy...
	Hold on.
	Let me do it for you.
	Oh, yeah.
	Hold on.
	I've got to cue him up here.
	Hold on.
	Okay.
	According to UN Secretary General, the No Agenda Show is now officially the best podcast in the universe, said UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon.
	Our challenge remains clear and urgent.
	That's correct.
	And now, in other news, I mean, that's how you do it.
	You play the guy saying something you can't understand, and you're like, oh, okay.
	Yeah, well, that's like the question is...
	The main question is, the No Agenda show is the greatest podcast in the universe.
	The best podcast in the universe!
	Technically it's best, not greatest.
	What did I say?
	You said greatest.
	Oh, well it is the greatest, but the best.
	Although there is no category this year, as was promised, there's no category for best podcast in the universe.
	Just while we're on the drones real quick, I'm going back to the drones, actually.
	For some reason, everyone's all up in arms.
	And I don't know who broke this credible news.
	At the White House, before the election, they were hurrying to create a drone rule book because the president didn't want to...
	Freeze the current way and potentially, I guess the inferences that if Romney became president, he would go crazy on the drones.
	Meanwhile, they basically created a rule book on drones, people.
	Don't you see what's going on here?
	They're solidifying the use of drones and making President Obama look like the good guy, like he's tempered in how he's using them.
	I mean, please, this is an outrage.
	An outrage.
	And everyone's buying it.
	Oh, it's so cool, man.
	It was so secret that he created the rule book because he didn't want a different guy to come in and kill people with drones.
	Wow.
	So, yeah.
	So I got a bunch of...
	Here's the problem.
	I just realized I made a mistake for today's show.
	Oh.
	What did you do?
	Well, I told you.
	You said, oh, your clips are in early.
	I said, yeah, I pre-produced them.
	In other words, during the week as I got the clips, I produced them and got them ready for shipment.
	As opposed to what I normally do, which is I get up at 6.30 or 7 in the morning and then I have all the clips clip, but then I produce them in the morning.
	Yeah, what did you do wrong?
	What I did wrong was I pre-produced them, so I've got all these clips.
	I have no idea what they're about.
	You don't know what the clips are.
	Well, I mean, I got it, but I know kind of thematically, and there's a couple clips for sure that I know what they're about, but I really do not know what the Lindsey Graham Benghazi clip is here for what it says.
	Well, let's have a listen, because it'll fit into something somewhere.
	We know what Benghazi is, and we know that we have our theory, so Lindsey Graham, I guess, is, along with Senator McCain, going to filibuster Condoleezza Rice coming in as Secretary of State.
	Not Condoleezza Rice.
	Susan Rice.
	That's the issue for me.
	Was she telling us honestly and openly about the best intelligence, or were they trying to shade the Benghazi attack to give the best political explanation, which would have been a spontaneous defense, not a pre-planned terrorist attack?
	Well, I'm glad you brought up the president because you sent him a letter, and you pointed out to him that he has not responded to 13 congressional requests for information on Benghazi.
	Do you want to say something here?
	Yeah, that's what the clip is about.
	Apparently, they've gotten a bunch of requests.
	The Congress really has the power of investigation and a lot of other things they can do.
	And they are letting the Obama administration just tell them to shove it.
	The Obama administration is telling Congress to shove it.
	They did it with the Holder event, and now they're doing it again.
	I think The Holder.
	His name is The Holder.
	The Holder.
	It's interesting you bring this up because you can now see who is sucking up to the president.
	And you know who's really, really sucking up?
	Our favorite, Eleanor Norton Holmes.
	Now, you recall that we had Congresswoman Fudge come out and several others saying, oh, it's racist, it's sexist, these guys just don't want us to succeed because she's black and because she's a woman.
	And then Holmes came out, and I went back and watched her entire speech.
	She rushed on stage, read her thing, and just a reminder as to the fact that she was actually reading and is an idiot, here's what she read.
	The Senate seemed to be unable to contain themselves while we await two ongoing investigations into the tragic attacks in Bengali, Libya, which took a lot.
	She's such an idiot, and she's so out of touch.
	She doesn't even know that it's Benghazi, and she just reads Bengali.
	So she was asked on Megan, I think, from, what's her name, Megan from Fox News, Megan Kelly.
	And she gets Norton on, and she says, hey, what was all this crap?
	And Norton, listen to what she says.
	I certainly don't.
	I don't call out sexism or racism unless I have some evidence.
	I can see why some would believe that.
	I gave the opening statement, then had to go back to a hearing, so I never even heard the rest.
	It was true.
	She did leave right after she said Bengali.
	The woman is a total blowhard, nincompoop idiot.
	So it's true.
	She did not say racism, sexism.
	But now she's like, oh crap, what did them bitches say there while I was gone?
	Please do not ascribe those views to me.
	I think that she's being singled out, coming out of the presidential campaign.
	Could you put your tongue up Obama's butt any further, Norton?
	Really?
	Ugh, sickening you.
	One of our committees, Oversight and Government Reform, in the middle of the presidential campaign and a recess, had a hearing and she became the focus of that hearing.
	And I think that came out of sheer partisanship.
	When you say a hundred House members have sent a letter, well they don't have anything to do with who's going to be nominated to be Secretary of State.
	You see how they're moving that, John?
	Where the Congress has sent, you know, the letters weren't just get rid of Susan Rice.
	That's what, that I think is what your point is with this Lindsey Graham clip.
	The hundred letters from the Congress men and women was not just about get Susan Rice out of here.
	No, they're twisting that.
	It was probably, hey, what the heck happened?
	I don't have these letters.
	Do you have the hundred letters?
	No.
	Don't you think that's what's going on?
	I think it's part of it.
	But also, Congress is wimping out on this whole thing.
	And then, going back to the fight, essentially, I went back and I listened to what the President said about Susan Rice.
	And I think you're right that it was a deliberate move by Hillary Clinton to just crush her.
	Crush her.
	And I think the president is angry at Hillary in this clip.
	Not at Senators McCain and Lieberman, but at Hillary.
	Listen.
	...has represented the United States and our interests in the United Nations with skill and professionalism and toughness and grace.
	As I've said before, she made an appearance at the request of the White House.
	Which, by the way, I've now discussed with several people who, including Sir GQ, actually.
	Total bullcrap.
	She works for the Secretary of State, and that request would, ultimately, it would have to be Hillary Clinton saying, you go out and you do this.
	The White House doesn't just get to bypass that easily.
	In which she...
	Gave her best understanding of the intelligence that had been provided to her.
	If Senator McCain and Senator Graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me.
	And I'm happy to have that discussion with them.
	But for them to go after the UN ambassador?
	Who had nothing to do with Benghazi?
	And this, by the way, is very interesting to me.
	How do we know she had nothing to do with Benghazi?
	Well, let's take it at face value.
	If she had nothing to do with Benghazi, why is she the spokesperson about Benghazi?
	Well, this is factually...
	Even untrue, because indirectly, she had everything to do.
	We would not be in Benghazi without Susan Rice being the representative for the United States in the United Nations, which came up with the resolution to go bomb the crack out of Gaddafi.
	I'm in total agreement with the President.
	She had nothing to do with Benghazi, so why?
	I think my argument's a better one.
	She had nothing to do with Benghazi.
	She's a stooge.
	She has a mouthpiece in the UN, which is all you do there.
	I'm sorry, John.
	I need to interject.
	There is an ongoing ARB, Accountability Review Board, two of them, with the FBI and the Department of State.
	The President cannot say she had nothing to do with it.
	We will not know.
	Until those reports are in, if she had anything to do with it.
	He is presuming, giving her innocence the same way he said Bradley Manning is guilty.
	That's fine.
	I agree with that.
	Okay.
	But I'm just saying, why is he saying she has nothing to do with it, yet she was the spokesperson?
	How can he explain this discrepancy?
	Because he's covering for her, obviously, because she has everything to do with it.
	He's giving her a free pass.
	Well, somebody's...
	The UN ambassador?
	Who had nothing to do with Benghazi?
	Nothing at all.
	And was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received?
	She was just doing the PowerPoint, man.
	Why is she doing the presentation in the first place?
	This has got Hillary written over it.
	She has the only copy of PowerPoint that's licensed.
	Hey, you guys got a new PowerPoint.
	PowerPoint 97 is incompatible with this.
	It won't open on my computer.
	I can't show it.
	Hey, Rice.
	Rice, can you do the new PowerPoint?
	Yes, I can.
	And to besmirch her reputation?
	I love that word.
	Besmirch.
	Come here, baby.
	I'm going to besmirch all over you.
	Can I use it that way?
	Is that a valid use?
	Yeah, absolutely.
	That's the way the president meant it.
	It's outrageous.
	It's outrageous, I tell you.
	It's not outrageous.
	It's outrageous.
	I've never been so outraged in my life by this situation.
	What a bunch of bullcrap.
	That to me is so good.
	We should do this more often.
	You've got to go back and listen to something two weeks later because it's so much funnier in context when he says...
	You know what's outrageous?
	A million Iraqis killed.
	Boys and girls, Americans coming home with limbs blown off and their brains all scrambled.
	That's outrageous, Mr.
	President.
	That is what is outrageous.
	The fact that our banks are running on drug money being laundered through the biggest corporate entities in the financial world.
	That's outrageous, Mr.
	President.
	That is outrageous.
	Okay.
	Not the fact that a couple of...
	Play the pet peeves.
	You've got to stop me all the time.
	So, let's finish off the Lindsey Graham Benghazi clip, if you can.
	Yes, of course.
	Is the president, in your judgment, defying Congress's constitutional authority to oversee and investigate?
	I think he's stonewalling the American people.
	There are two movies made about the President's leadership in the Bin Laden raid.
	We have photos of the President in the Situation Room, a minute-by-minute account of the President's leadership.
	He deserves great credit for the Bin Laden raid.
	It was a gutsy call.
	We have information about how he closed the deal on the recent ceasefire between the Israelis and Palestinians.
	When it comes to Benghazi, we've been given no information about what he did for seven hours during the attack.
	He claims to have ordered the conflict to be secured, but we don't know anything about where that order was carried out.
	What the president told about the April and June attacks on the conflict when the British closed their conflict in Benghazi because it was too dangerous, So he hasn't answered any of the basic questions about his leadership before, during, and after the attack on our consulate in Benghazi.
	It's a massive national security failure.
	Yeah, this is kind of a dead end he's trying there.
	This came out today for CBS News.
	The White House has now officially declined to release images from the night of the Benghazi attacks.
	And so what I think he tried to do there was like, Well, when he brought down Osama bin Laden, we had the situation room with the president there with his flight jacket, and everyone's like huddled around, and it's command central, and they're heroes, we're going to kill Osama bin Laden.
	But when they screw up, then they don't want to show any pictures.
	I think that's the dead end that he's pursuing.
	It's an obvious dead end.
	Yeah.
	CBS News is also seeking drone and ground-level surveillance images and email communication and documents from the night of the Benghazi attack.
	You know, the Congress can do whatever it wants.
	The Congress can make that happen, but they haven't got the guts.
	It's a gutless Congress.
	No, but it's not true, because they tried this with the holder on Fast and Furious, and they said executive privilege.
	Yeah, but they wouldn't indict.
	They gave him executive privilege.
	They didn't go to the final level, indicting the guy, subpoenaing him, and throwing him in jail.
	They could do that.
	By the way, I'm reliably...
	Contempt of Congress.
	You can do that.
	You can throw someone in jail.
	Citizens have been thrown in jail by Congress, but these guys are gutless.
	Have you seen Valerie Jarrett?
	Please.
	Ixnay on the LJ. I'm reliably informed there were two drones flying over Benghazi before the attack.
	Before the attack.
	There's all kinds of video.
	And I'll tell you something else.
	That video is going to get out.
	That video is already in hands outside of government control.
	It's unencrypted, it's available, and it's going to come out.
	How they're going to play it is what I'm waiting for.
	Because you've got to play it right.
	There's ways to release this.
	Yeah, no, it has to be.
	First, you've got to let them dig a deep hole for themselves.
	And so there's just a pack of lies that they can't quite reverse, because there'll be too many of them, and then you roll it out.
	Yeah, that's the way you do it.
	And I think, if you remember, we had a show about a month or two ago where the guy predicted they didn't think Obama was going to finish out this term.
	That guy that lives in Thailand, an investor.
	Oh, what's his name?
	Yeah, that guy.
	Yeah, him.
	You had a clip of him, too.
	Carter, Shanty, Sharder.
	I'm good.
	That was your clip, man.
	Come on.
	No, but then you had the same clip from the same guy in a week or two ago.
	You should know who it is.
	Oh, sorry.
	Anyway, I got one other little Benghazi tidbit.
	Okay.
	You know the mistress of Petraeus, and she gave that speech in Denver?
	And she says, well, you know, it was about these guys and the...
	Yeah, at the Aspen conference.
	She says, excuse me.
	You okay?
	I'm getting parched.
	She says that there was a CIA annex with some prisoners in it and everyone came out, there's no such thing.
	Play the CIA annex clip.
	So far, there has been no military reaction from the United States, and few suspects have been named or questioned by the Libyans.
	Three Libyan militants were handed over to Libyan authorities the night of the attack, according to sources at the CIA annex.
	Oh, really?
	At the CIA annex?
	Oh, the one that doesn't exist?
	Yeah, the one that doesn't exist.
	They were handed over to them according to the CIA annex.
	Can you get your story straight?
	Yeah.
	I learned so much from Sir GQ. This is an intelligence guy.
	I figured that out.
	Hello?
	But these clips are now triggering more stuff.
	He said that this is Broadwell, Paula Broadwell, that this was at the Aspen Conference.
	And he said the Aspen Conference is where all these guys get together and they all get drunk and they all screw around.
	That's when this all took place.
	That's when it really started to happen.
	But I mean, you can imagine, you're going to a conference, you know, you're there, it's Allen's there, what's his, Petraeus, and then what's the jabroni, Djibouti, jabroni?
	Everybody's there.
	Yeah, the other, who's the defense secretary?
	What's his name?
	Come on, the old CIA guy, what's his name?
	Yeah.
	That guy.
	And then Paula's there, and then you're getting sauced up, and there's caviar, and then she's looking hot.
	And she's like, I've got to further my career.
	Can you imagine?
	I don't know if I'm strong enough, John.
	I don't know if I could resist it.
	I don't know.
	Especially the way you drink.
	One beer, you're wasted.
	A lightweight.
	Hey, Paula.
	What is the secretary of defense in the name?
	Debra Norville.
	Debra Norville.
	What was that story?
	Where'd that come from?
	What?
	Debra Norville.
	The name came to mind when I thought of Panetta's face.
	I know it makes no sense because she's kind of a pretty girl and he's like this weird looking character.
	Did he have sex with Debra Norville?
	Did he?
	I don't know.
	Wasn't there some...
	Debra Norville.
	Come on, there was some controversy about Debra Norville.
	Yeah, she was on the Today Show and she got fired because nobody liked her.
	And so she went off and made millions of dollars doing the Inside Edition show or whatever it is.
	She didn't screw some guy who was Minister of Defense, Secretary of Defense or something?
	Maybe.
	I don't know that, though.
	Okay.
	Funny.
	By the way, somebody was also on our...
	I think it was Russia Today.
	We'd done this a few weeks ago about Obama and the stupid commentary he made on...
	Oh, about missiles, yeah?
	Yeah, this was either on Russia Today or it was on some...
	Oh, let me guess.
	They heard something on a podcast somewhere and then it became a theory for them?
	Or it became like an item they were going to talk about?
	That would make sense to me.
	And this was, of course, shut down when President Obama in Bangkok made his rather tasteless speech where he said that, you know, no people who have missiles falling on them, you know, will not want to react, which, of course, is news to people who are being fired on by US drones, you know, who say, well, can we fire back?
	I mean, is it legitimate?
	So, when American complicity is not part of the story, you know, for instance, Susan Rice at the United Nations blocking any attempt at creating a statement condemning the war, at that point you lose track of the idea that U.S. complicity or U.S. backing gives Israel essentially impunity to continue the occupation and to continue its kind of bombardment.
	So I got a note from, I think, Wired Pig, one of our producers out there, and he said that it is not correct.
	Obama said, I'm looking for the clip.
	Where is the clip?
	Here it is.
	This is what the president said.
	There's no country on Earth that would tolerate missiles raining down on its citizens from outside its borders.
	So, we are fully supportive of Israel's right to defend itself from missiles landing on people's homes.
	Wow, I'm so happy I just went back.
	Oh my God, I cannot believe that...
	Oh, this is freaking me out.
	So, Wired Pig said, the President said rockets, but he didn't.
	He said missiles.
	Because the big point was, there's a difference between rockets and missiles.
	Rockets are not guidance, but he said missiles.
	I thought he said rockets.
	Didn't you hear him say rockets at some point?
	I never heard him say rockets.
	I always thought it was missiles.
	That's why I have the missiles written on my clip here.
	Funny.
	I got several notes about this saying, oh man, rockets is not the same as missiles.
	But the president clearly said missiles.
	Well, I take that back then.
	Screw you, wired pig.
	You're wrong.
	Well, I think you could make the argument, if you want to give a parse...
	You know, missiles versus rockets.
	Right, but he's saying missiles.
	Yeah, I know, but let's just say he says from outside the border.
	That drone is inside the border.
	You're right, it's inside the border.
	Good point.
	Five points, Chauncey Dvorak.
	Severed feet.
	Right again.
	Would you like double talk, double speak for $300?
	Yeah, play the clip.
	Another one, I'm not quite sure what it is, but can you play the Libyan Intel Chief?
	Yes.
	Meanwhile, the investigation into who killed four Americans is stalled.
	Reports from the ground in Benghazi suggest the gunmen who were at the consulate that night still freely roam the streets.
	And Wednesday, the national security chief in Benghazi, Colonel Farag Eldersi, was killed by three gunmen as he returned home from work.
	This Libyan intelligence officer may have had information about who was behind the attack on Ambassador Chris Stevens and the others.
	Yeah, it's called Tying Up Loose Ends, I believe.
	Did anybody report this in the U.S. media?
	Yeah, I actually had it in the show notes on Thursday, and for some reason we didn't get to it.
	Oh, man.
	I had another.
	I'm just not very good with the jingles today.
	It's the new jingle board.
	Yeah, it just sucks.
	But, yeah.
	So, of course, the guy had information.
	Oh, sorry.
	Oh.
	He's assassinated.
	I think that actually came out maybe even a full, maybe more than that, maybe a full week ago that that information came out.
	Yeah, but more important is that we make sure we watch, tune in to see CNN Heroes.
	That's right.
	Let me guess.
	CNN Heroes.
	We're going to have a nurse, a school teacher, some poor child with their limbs blown off in some dusty other nation, and who else do we need to make our show complete?
	Oh, let's see.
	A nurse.
	You need a...
	Maybe a teacher.
	A teacher trying to teach the poor girls.
	Nurse, teacher, doctor.
	No, you said...
	Not doctor.
	No, doctors are no good.
	Nurse, teacher, veteran with limbs blown off.
	What else can we bring in there?
	Like someone who plays like violin or some crappy thing like that.
	Like some virtuous kid.
	There's a lot of possibilities.
	There's a triangle.
	I don't know.
	I've never produced garbage like that.
	It makes it difficult to...
	Oh, I'm telling you.
	We've had to do so much of that stuff.
	You never had to do that?
	Oh, my God.
	So we might as well do a couple things that I have from the previous...
	Actually, I had these this week.
	So the president is over in Burma.
	Which he at some times calls Myanmar.
	Heaven forbid, by the way, that he's working on this fiscal cliff issue.
	No, he's not working on that.
	He's partying.
	Well, he's back now.
	He's back.
	But he was out there in the Asias.
	And a meeting in Burma, conveniently located next to China.
	So let me just give you, if you go from west to east, this is what I think is going on.
	We have the TAPI, which is Turkmenistan.
	That's where they get the gas.
	It goes through Afghanistan, goes through Pakistan, goes to India.
	That's TAPI. Then it goes through Bangladesh, who just two weeks ago said, hey, we're happy to have pipelines.
	Then it goes into Burma, and then it goes into China, which is the ultimate destination for the gas, which Which country needs gas is China.
	China's buying all this gas.
	So that is the basic Silk Road that's going into China.
	So we had to open up Burma.
	And, by the way, did I tell you that when I was on the phone with Uncle Don and Aunt Meg, they were talking about their daughter, their eldest daughter, Lucy, and I had forgotten about this, but they lived in Burma for a couple of years, doing God knows what, and that Lucy is doing a bike tour, and then Aunt Meg said, oh, it's so nice, you know, Lucy's doing, and they're both on the phone at the same time, Lucy's doing a bike tour of Myanmar, and Uncle Don cuts in, Burma!
	Like angry.
	No, it's Burma.
	It's not Myanmar.
	It's Burma.
	That's a real sticking point for these guys.
	For U.S. intelligence and diplomacy.
	It's like, it's Burma.
	It's not Myanmar.
	So that has to open up.
	And lo and behold...
	You know, I think that has to do with World War II and the Burma Road and all this other things and all these...
	I'm pro-American.
	Oh, it has to be a pro-American.
	Touch points.
	Touch points.
	Yeah, it has to be.
	And the only reason you change the name is because it's some sinister scheme afoot to marginalize our touch points, which are very important in that area.
	So in the Federal Register appears the following this week, designation of seven entities pursuant to Executive Order 13448 or Executive Order 13464, an amendment of an existing specially designated national listing, the so-called SDN, which is handled by the Treasury.
	And this is seven companies who are now unblocked from doing trade in Burma, including the Golden Aaron LTD, What is this company?
	I'm trying to read through this, doing this in real time.
	Where are all these names?
	Well, it doesn't really matter.
	You have to look at it in the show notes.
	And actually, I'd appreciate if people would go in and check out these seven companies that have been unblocked.
	Because undoubtedly, what I'm looking for here is I'm looking for a Clinton connection or a Texas connection.
	Because you don't all of a sudden just unblock seven companies from doing business in Burma unless there's some business to be done.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So I think it's pipelines, and I think it's obviously natural gas.
	So the president's over there, and he's talking, and he's standing next to Aung San Suu Kyi.
	This is her name.
	This is the woman who Hillary is madly in love with.
	Aung San Suu Kyi.
	Yeah, she's the one that's so delicious.
	So delicious, darling.
	You caught me off guard again.
	So here's Hillary Clinton.
	She's smart.
	She just says something sexy to her.
	It's Almost too delicious to believe, my friend.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	Aung San Suu Kyi.
	Say it again.
	Aung San Suu Kyi.
	Say it again.
	Aung San Suu Kyi.
	I was honored to be the first president to welcome Aung San Suu Kyi to...
	It's not Aung Yang.
	It's Aung...
	Did she say Dong Sung?
	Long Dong Sung Chi.
	White House.
	I'm proud to be the first American president to visit this country and explore with Aung San Suu Kyi.
	It's not Aung San Suu Kyi, it's Aung San Suu Kyi.
	And the government, whether the United States, we've seen some very encouraging progress, including Dao Aung San Suu Kyi's release and election.
	No, it's not Aung San Suu Kyi.
	It's Aung San Suu Kyi.
	It's embarrassing.
	Well, you know, if George Bush had done that, he'd been ridiculed by the media, but I guess nobody noticed.
	Yeah, but you're only saying that because you're a secret Republican and you love to say those things.
	No, no, I'm a total independent.
	And I voted for Gary Johnson, I might add.
	No bullcrap.
	Yeah, who was a Republican, I might add.
	Next time I'll take a camera into the voting booth and show you my ballot.
	It doesn't mean that you're not really a Republican.
	You're my handler.
	We've known this for years.
	Now give up.
	Just give up.
	I am pissed at us.
	What did we miss?
	Well, because every single year we make a prediction about Black Friday and I was going to say this year Black Friday would be down.
	And I think, because typically it's like the most bought ever!
	Right?
	Right?
	Yeah.
	Well, it was down.
	It was down.
	Revenues were down.
	But ABC News, and do people around the world understand the slave mission that we have after this?
	So here's how it works in the United States of Gitmo Nation.
	Yeah.
	We have a fake holiday, which is meant to make us feel good about killing Indians.
	And to celebrate that, we go kill a turkey, and we eat that, and we get drunk, and then we put our hands in our pants and watch football, and watch lots of commercials.
	Man, did you just turn up the speakers?
	Because it's loud now.
	It's coming back.
	No, you're just sounding louder.
	Maybe you moved away or something changed.
	I'll move it down even further.
	All right.
	That's no good.
	I'll continue.
	So then you're watching these commercials, and these commercials and the news reports are telling you about Black Friday, and you're going to have to run out in the morning, stand actually that night at like 8 o'clock at night.
	At midnight.
	No, 8 o'clock at night is when you get in line, and you stand in line, and then at midnight the doors open.
	You go in and you just grab whatever you can, which I think, by the way, it's just people stealing stuff.
	I don't think they're actually getting it because it's cheap.
	This is a great opportunity to rip stuff off.
	And it's a total slave movement.
	And you're supposed to be happy by these deals.
	And, of course, now we have something called Cyber Monday, which is tomorrow when we're all going to be ordering all these great deals online.
	The whole thing is sickening.
	But ABC actually gave it the right moniker.
	Good morning, America.
	This morning, Black and Blue Friday.
	America's annual orgy of capitalism gets dicey.
	I'm playing soccer!
	Scuffles over deals, guns pulled over parking spots.
	In the midst of the mayhem, witch items are literally flying off the shelves.
	I love Orgy of Capitalism.
	That's all good stuff, but you know, here's what I did.
	You know the way they do, we've mentioned this a million times on this show, you hear these reports from overseas in Benghazi, they're clearly sweetened.
	Bengali.
	In Bengali.
	They're clearly sweetened.
	Now I think all the news reports should be sweetened.
	Because why should the overseas reports get sweetened and local reports don't?
	So here's my Black Friday report that's been sweetened.
	Explain sweetened just so people understand.
	Sweetened means you take the clip or whatever it is and you go into the sound room and you add gunfire and you add explosions.
	You add all the screaming and yelling that isn't really on the clip.
	Or you do the same thing in a comedy show that's not funny.
	Right.
	And so you turn up the laughter and make it look like it's funny.
	It's not funny.
	Okay.
	Okay.
	The dick pressure.
	The pushing.
	The pushing.
	It's a TV for Donald Trump.
	Even taser.
	I can't even hear what she's saying.
	I can't even hear the voice of it.
	Shoppers consumed with the deal turning on one another.
	At this Walmart last year, one used pepper spray to fight suffocation in the crowd.
	This is Black Friday in America.
	Thank you.
	Connecticut shopper Jack.
	Bullshit.
	You did this.
	Daggett.
	I've been standing in line for 36 hours.
	Wait, did you do this?
	Is this the actual report as it went out?
	Or did you, did you, is this what you were working on all week?
	It's sweetened.
	It's sweetened.
	This father of an 18-month-old has been camping out for years.
	One year, he snapped photos as this crowd fought over $5 headphones.
	The shoppers just went berserk.
	I've never seen anything like it.
	People start lunging and grabbing, and you just see the arms all just go at once.
	What is relatively new are shoppers turning on other shoppers.
	Amy Drolet is a consumer psychologist.
	She says competitive shopping has gotten worse, so accept it on Black Friday that it's here to stay.
	Bad behavior has led to serious injuries, even death.
	From crushed workers and shoppers to shootings at stores.
	But crowds are just part of obtaining rare Black Friday deals, says Daggett.
	I love when they try to, you know, swing at you or anything.
	It's funny to me because everybody always gets mad when you're the one with the items that they want.
	Driven by competition no matter the cost.
	Young Law, CNN, Los Angeles.
	Duck and cover.
	Get away from the windows.
	Take cover and await further instructions.
	Nicely sweetened, John.
	So that's the Black Friday report.
	Here's this guy.
	Who's this guy's name?
	He is...
	I think his name is Mike.
	What's his name?
	Yes, Mark Dice.
	And he's written a book...
	The Illuminati, Facts and Fiction.
	Very fun book to read.
	So he went out cruising.
	He went out on Black Friday, and he was driving by.
	And he had the video.
	People were lined up at Target, Best Buy, and Sears.
	They're lined up at 8 o'clock in the evening for the midnight when the doors open.
	And he's bullhorning them.
	I just want to play a little bit of this.
	It's very funny.
	Let me see.
	12, 7.30 p.m., And this is Target, where a bunch of mainstream media-watching morons are all lined up.
	Look at these idiots.
	Because it opens at 8 o'clock.
	So I'm going to give them a nice welcome.
	You are all a bunch of mainstream media-watching morons.
	It's enemies of America like you that are causing our country to collapse financially.
	Look at you slaves lined up with your Chinese goods.
	How many thousands of dollars of credit card debt do you all have?
	I bet you don't even own an ounce of silver, do you?
	It's slaves like you that are forcing these poor workers to come in and work and ruin their Thanksgiving, you zombies.
	I love this guy.
	I love the woman with the screeching voice yelling, shut up!
	But they're literally looking at him like zombies.
	I swear to God, they're like, what?
	He does more.
	Let's play a little more.
	It's so funny.
	I love another one.
	I don't know if they heard me, so I'm going to take a swing.
	I don't think they heard me, the zombies.
	I'm going to go back and do it again.
	And they start throwing stuff at him.
	You are pawns of the Illuminati!
	You are so ignorant, you brain-dead zombies!
	You are the reason for the financial cliff that America is facing, the hyperinflation disaster!
	You are ignorant consumeristic morons!
	You Illuminati puppet absolute idiot.
	Okay.
	I like this guy.
	By the way, by the way, I can see you doing that in just a few years.
	Oh yeah, totally.
	What do you mean just a few years?
	And you have the bullhorn.
	What do you think I'm doing after the show?
	I'm going to show myself all by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	You are all Illuminati slaves.
	In the morning.
	Well, let's see what Illuminati slaves we've got here.
	Hello, Illuminati slaves.
	In the morning to you.
	Donated to the show.
	Yeah, well, they're no slaves.
	These are the people who are awake and know what's going on.
	Because, my friends, news is free.
	It's the analysis that has value.
	So we have someone with no name, no address, no anonymous.
	Been meaning to donate and write for a while.
	It seems job karma I asked for my husband a few months.
	That finally came to me.
	So I'm busy with new work as a librarian, keeper of the books.
	Assists me fairly well as the whole librarians are the quiet revolutionaries of society, although I'm sure I would have plenty of my own shut-up slave moments.
	Anyway, back in October, the anti-bullying month, our ninth grade son came home with his personal no-agenda story in which he told us that a bully was defined for the school as a small-scale terrorist.
	Wait a minute!
	This is what they're teaching now?
	Yeah.
	Someone who's a bully is a, quote, small-scale terrorist.
	Yeah.
	Awesome.
	Isn't that amazing?
	I believe that, too.
	I mean, it's like the schools teach the weirdest stuff.
	I was incredulous that a bully who tosses around mean words, whom I distinctly remember being taught way back to ignore, should be compared to someone who takes lives, which is just ridiculous to me.
	I'm sure my son was annoyed as well and couldn't help but see the manipulation.
	The irony is that while they are taught not to bully the anti-bully day...
	And all the good slaves are wearing...
	You have to...
	What happens if you don't?
	They had to wear the t-shirts.
	That's what she means.
	It means.
	Yeah.
	She.
	Yeah.
	All the same t-shirts with...
	Okay, here it is.
	I'm sorry.
	I got confused.
	She sent a picture of this, actually.
	All the same t-shirts with big old red targets on the back.
	Seriously, whose dumb idea was this?
	In the mind of my 14-year-old son, targets were for one thing only, to shoot something at.
	Are they implying that these kids are really victims to be?
	It just made no sense, but just one of those shut-up slave moments that made us all shake our heads.
	What a waste.
	This t-shirt will never be worn again by my son.
	Stupid school system, she says.
	And after reading this note, because it actually came in as an email, I have lined up as an end-of-show clip a five-minute rant from Jonathan Rauch.
	In defense of being offensive, which is essentially exactly about how bullying is being misused to temper our freedom of speech.
	Yeah, no, that's exactly what you've been saying from the first time you heard it.
	Sir Jason Stephenson in Las Vegas, Las Wages, Nevada, $111.11 without comment.
	Chris Eisbach in Cheshire, Connecticut, $101.01.
	Now the candidate for the No Agenda Brewmaster.
	I just need an address for which to send some brew.
	I've got a great hit team in the mouth IPA and a crackpot Kolsch ready to send.
	In the meantime, a little palindrome donation.
	Thanks for the great Thanksgiving show.
	Any way to find out how much we have donated to date?
	Yeah, you go to...
	No Agenda Nation and register, and then when you go into the, you'll see a little thing there where it'll show you how much you're given.
	Noagendanation.com, to be specific.
	Are you okay when you want to get another, I mean, we can certainly wait while you get a sip of water.
	Do you want to go get something?
	No, no, I'm good.
	I just, I don't know why I got some, I got too many cats in this house.
	I get congested.
	Because, I mean, I can play a little ditty on the slide whistle if you need a little time.
	Believe me, anything but that.
	Sir GQ, $100.
	There he is.
	And he handed it off in person.
	Yes, I noticed that.
	He gave me some information and he gave us a donation.
	Information, donation.
	Yeah, there's enough information to get him a knighthood almost.
	Or a commercial, one or the other.
	Well, one of the two.
	So, Sir Gear, $100.
	Anonymous, so gear to you.
	Atlas Shrugged plus Karma for a new business venture.
	Simple and easy.
	By Ayn Rand.
	You've got karma.
	Oh man, I don't have the Morse code for this one.
	Aha.
	We're getting a ham donation.
	I have the 8888.
	I need a 7373.
	I don't have it.
	You need a 7373 because we got 7373 without comment from Tardik Vandercran.
	Vandercran.
	Internit.
	Holland.
	I think that's Belgium, actually.
	Belgium.
	I don't know.
	I don't think that's Holland, but van der Kran is a Dutch name.
	Hmm.
	It's not Tardik, though, is it?
	I can't read because I have a birthday candle overlapping it.
	Let me see.
	T-J-A-R-D-I-K. Chardick.
	Chardick.
	Chardick.
	Grebulon comes in with $70.
	He's in somewhere or other.
	I just want to wish a happy birthday to my son, Ben.
	And he'll get listed.
	Thanks for the best podcast in the universe.
	Thomas Badrick in Nutley, New Jersey.
	Hold on, hold on, hold on.
	You're going way too fast for me.
	Yeah, geez, man.
	Give me a break.
	I'm not ready.
	69!
	69!
	I mean, I know it's short this week, but come on.
	The first of the uncalled for 69.69 donations, followed by Ted of Hawkeye Technologies in Vancouver, Washington, 69.69.
	I'm donating again to the best podcast in the universe because I don't want all the non-donating boner douchebags to discourage you.
	I need your commentary to cut through the bull crap that's in today's media.
	I'm looking forward to the federal versus state showdown on the Washington and Colorado pot laws.
	It should be fun to watch.
	Please give me a coin drop karma to support my small business.
	You've got karma.
	We can put this in the red book if you want, but this is not going to stand.
	There's no way in hell that the feds are not going to leave Colorado and Washington alone because the economy will collapse in those states.
	So they're going to kick everyone's ass and arrest everybody who's selling pot.
	It's not going to stand.
	Hippies.
	Ted from Hawkeye Technologies in Vancouver, Washington, 6969.
	I'm donating again to the best podcast in the universe because I don't want to...
	I just read this.
	Yeah, it's part of the process.
	It's what happens at a certain point.
	You start repeating yourself and then you just keep over.
	R.M. Odenton, Maryland, 6969.
	Very funny.
	Please credit as RM in Maryland.
	Happy Thanksgiving.
	Thanks for the information and entertainment.
	Edward Hartwich in South Holland.
	Bergenshoek.
	Is that right?
	Bergenshoek.
	Bergenshoek?
	Bergenshoek.
	It's the mountain corner.
	Bergenshoek.
	Bergenshoek.
	Gitmo Lowlands, I finally decided to stop being a boner and give some love to the best podcasts in the universe.
	I've been trying to propagate the formula, but to this date, not with much success.
	Maybe saying that Adam and John have brought many hours of anal-tainment to me doesn't do it.
	What are you doing when you listen to the show?
	I don't know, but I don't want to know.
	Send pictures.
	Yeah, send him pictures.
	By the way, I was wondering if you can sue the state for copyright infringement when they take your DNA, considering the whole DNA database debate is in the lowlands.
	I would like a MILF Parliament mumble karma shot from the carrier of our new human resource.
	Please continue with the show for at least five more years.
	I love the anal-tainment brought by you two.
	Okay, so MILF Parliament mumble karma?
	Is that what he's looking for?
	Okay, where's the myth?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, okay.
	There we go.
	That's one hot bell.
	What the hell happened?
	What are you doing?
	I don't know.
	I'm like, I can use the new thing.
	I can use the new system.
	Beta.
	It's horrible.
	Hold on, let me do this properly.
	Parliament.
	I'm so sorry.
	A MILF parliament.
	Yeah, no, I understand, but all of a sudden there was like a different MILF was in there.
	It was really weird.
	It is MILF. That's one of the highlights.
	You've got karma.
	And was that it?
	No.
	No.
	Well, one more.
	There's William T. Christman IV in Baxter, Kentucky.
	6969.
	Sleepy donation from Get One Nation by Tuminous.
	F cancer.
	Worked for the awesome friend Shara, but not mom.
	More F cancer, please.
	Taking the technician test tomorrow.
	Thanks, John.
	Karma for my first human resource coming soon.
	Happy Thanksgiving.
	Everybody hug your mom.
	Thank you both so much.
	That's sweet.
	Let's do a little F cancer and pass the test, Carmen.
	You've got Carmen.
	Right on.
	Anyone that listens to our show can...
	Anyone who listens to our show can pass that test easily.
	Heather Simpkin in Henley on Thames?
	Oxfordshire?
	I don't have the thing.
	Let me open up this spreadsheet.
	Yeah.
	60 bucks, no comment.
	Martin Osterhout, Albany, New York, 5757.
	Missed the show's fifth birthday donation at 5555, but just turned 57 on my birthday.
	So here's 5757.
	Keep it easy for Adam.
	Keeping it easy for Adam.
	Just give me a little karma as I'm looking for a different job and could use the help.
	In other words, just the karma.
	I don't have to search for all the jingles.
	That's easy for me.
	You've got karma.
	Appreciate it.
	Edward Jacobs in Providence, North Carolina.
	Double nickels on the dime.
	Listener since 2009.
	Needing a dedouching for not donating more often a dose of karma for my upcoming appearance in front of the county planning board.
	When I asked for a 36-month variance to the building code requirement and a little girl yay for my kitty rascal.
	She lays on the table where the speakers are when no agenda is on.
	I think she likes the boom, boom, boom of Adam's deep voice vibrating the table when he talks.
	Once I have both hips replaced, jeez.
	Go through rehab and return to full employment.
	I will try to donate more and more often.
	Thanks for watching C-SPAN, listening to Stephanie Miller, hint, and deciphering government legislation so I don't have to.
	Keep up the great work.
	Okay, first of all, am I to understand this is a drunk cripple?
	Where's he a drunk?
	Rehab.
	No, rehab also refers to when you have an operation or you have a broken arm and you have to get rehab.
	I like the drunk cripple better.
	It's not a drunk cripple.
	We've got a drunk cripple listening.
	No, no, no.
	It's a guy that's going to have two hips replaced, a poor bastard.
	It's going to take him six months to get back on his feet.
	And to your pussy there, hey, how you doing, pussy?
	Yay!
	You've been de-douched.
	I want to remind people out there to listen to our show.
	We will be off the air from Adam's usage of the word cripple.
	Because some advertiser would say, that is not right.
	Can I tell you something?
	I have a son who has a bad leg, and somebody called me, it's very hurtful.
	Can I tell you that I often meet people who are crippled, And then I say, hey man, bummer you're a cripple.
	And when you get it out there right off the bat, people like it.
	People who are crippled feel like, okay, we've got the elephant out of the room.
	For some reason, and Mickey's always amazed by this.
	I have a knack for just saying the obvious.
	And also because I'm not perfect.
	You know, hey, I got Tourette's.
	How's that crippleness doing?
	Yeah, but you have a big, lovely, gigantic smile.
	You usually flash in an Obama-like way that gets you off the hook.
	Hello, everybody.
	Hello, cripple.
	Wouldn't it be funny if the president went, hello, everybody.
	Hello, cripple.
	It'd be cool if he just came out and just said it.
	Hey, you were the PTSD. How you doing?
	Freak out lately?
	Tara Nelson in Algona, Washington.
	Double nickels on the dime.
	My husband is incredibly hard to shop for, so he has asked me to donate to your show for our one-year anniversary.
	He listens every week.
	Please give him a karma slide whistle action.
	Well, I think she's listening, too.
	That must be.
	If she knows it's action.
	Well, that's very sweet.
	That's a lovely gift.
	And, of course, do you have your slide whistle, John, or do you not bring it up there?
	I can't travel with a slide whistle.
	It will get confiscated by TSA as a weapon.
	Well, luckily...
	Luckily, I've got mine, so...
	You've got karma.
	Happy anniversary.
	So, Valeska Arnenson in Aloha, Oregon.
	$50.
	This is Valeska Arnenson.
	I'm donating on behalf of my husband.
	Two in a row.
	Chris Arnenson for his birthday.
	Can you give him a de-douching since this is his first donation?
	Some birthday karma and a little French girl shut up, slave.
	We don't have a French girl.
	We don't have a French girl.
	She's probably thinking of the Italian.
	We don't have a French girl.
	No, we don't.
	Oh, monsieur, shut up, please.
	Congratulations to Adam for passing his general class test.
	Thank you guys for a great show.
	Keep it up, Valeska.
	So do we have two women in a row donating on behalf of their husbands?
	This is very nice.
	This is great.
	It's very, very nice.
	I think we have to recommend we should do that.
	I'll mention in the newsletter, people should be giving a Christmas donation.
	On behalf of their husbands.
	But these are the women who should be on CNN Heroes.
	That's the one I was missing.
	So we've got the teacher, we've got the nurse, we've got the blown-up veteran, and we've got women who donate for their husbands to the No Agenda show.
	I think that's beautiful.
	So, de-douching and little French girl.
	Just pretend she's French, okay?
	You've been de-douched.
	Shut up, slave!
	Stai zitto, schiavo!
	You've got karma.
	There you go.
	Sounded like French.
	Not really.
	So that's the extent of our donations there for show 464, a palindrome show, as a matter of fact.
	Yeah, not a single 464.
	Not a single 464 donation for the palindrome, interestingly enough.
	That's weird.
	And, you know, that's what happens.
	It is inconsistency.
	Also, this is the holiday, the Sunday after the holiday.
	Nobody's really listening.
	It's pretty bad.
	They'll catch up, I hope, on Thursday.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Well, the way you can support the show...
	Yes, go ahead.
	I'm sorry.
	Before you go on to that, we have to make a correction for Laurie.
	Oh, yes.
	No, we have to do a re-knighting.
	Are you kidding me?
	A re-knighting.
	So put him on the list.
	And he's now a black knight because it's got screwed up.
	And I want to remind people that black knighthoods are only obtained by us screwing up.
	Okay.
	Well, can you explain what happened and how we can avert this?
	Well, he's Finnish.
	And apparently in Finland, every female name that we think of as female in the United States is actually all guys.
	I think there is one female name in all of Finland, and I don't even know what it is, because I haven't gotten a female donor.
	So Laurie, who...
	Who Eric DeShill actually met, along with Comic Book Blogger, in Helsinki.
	Wait a minute.
	Did Eric DeShill met Comic Strict Blogger?
	No, no, no.
	Yes, yes.
	He met Comic Strict Blogger.
	No, no, no.
	It's the other guy.
	It's Luke, not Comic Strict Blogger.
	Oh, I thought it was Comic...
	Okay, met Luke.
	Right.
	Alright, so...
	Please.
	Easy.
	Well, it's possible.
	Yeah.
	And, well, whoever he met, he did meet Laurie, who he thought was the greatest guy ever.
	So, anyway.
	You know, Eric is Finnish.
	Really?
	He's going to get his Finnish citizenship, as a matter of fact.
	Right.
	And what will I get him?
	Fishing rights?
	What do you get for that?
	Well, you get the safety of being a Finnish citizen.
	But he also gets health care.
	Because Eric was born with a defective valve in his heart.
	It hasn't really made any difference to him.
	I mean, he's still normal.
	He's still alive, clearly.
	Well, no.
	I mean, he's healthy, too.
	But theoretically, he's going to have to have it operated on someday.
	And it's one of those operations that is a rip-off operation.
	Let me just understand.
	So he is gouging the state of Finland without paying taxes.
	No, he's Finnish.
	It's a socialist country.
	I understand, but don't you have to pay taxes in Finland if you're going to take advantage of the system?
	He's going to...
	I don't know.
	I'm not Finnish.
	All I know is he did the math and it's a good deal.
	And don't bring it up if you don't know.
	Don't pretend like you...
	Well, I'm just telling you what he's going to do.
	I'm not going to...
	I can't answer all the questions for him.
	Well, you brought him up.
	He definitely, obviously, did the math.
	No, I brought up that he's going to be Finnish and you asked why.
	I didn't ask why he was Finnish.
	You said Finnish, so he can eat herring?
	I mean, you had some snide comment.
	No, you said he's...
	You have no respect for the Finns.
	I do it when, uh, you're right, I don't.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. Shows that I do have respect for the Finns.
	But first, let's say happy birthday to Grebulon's son, Ben, who turned four last Thursday.
	Martin Osterhout congratulates himself, turned 57 on the 21st.
	Congratulations, Martin.
	And Valeska Arneson.
	It says happy birthday to your husband, Chris Arneson.
	His birthday is coming up on the 26th.
	It's on a Monday.
	I love it when wives do that for the husbands.
	That is true love and vice versa, of course.
	Happy birthday from all your buddies here at the No Agenda Show.
	It's your birthday, yeah!
	And so we have two black knights and one straight-up knight who we're going to crown today.
	Do you have that thing?
	Yeah, I got the little one here.
	I can't put this house.
	Yeah, pull it out.
	It's not that little, actually.
	It sounds the same.
	Mark Borghese, Mikkel March Anderson, and Laurie.
	Sir Laurie, step forward.
	All three of you are today becoming Knights of the Noagent Roundtable.
	Mikkel, you will be a black knight, as will you, Laurie.
	Thank you so much for your donation, the amount of $1,000 or more, and Sir Mark as well.
	So hereby I pronounce thee.
	Sir Mark!
	Sir Mikko!
	Black Knight!
	And Sir Lorrie!
	Black Knight!
	All nights at the No-A-Tender Roundtable.
	Come on over for your hookers and blow, rent boys and chardonnay, hot pants and booze, wenches and beer, rubinous women and rosé, geishas and sake, vodka and vanilla, and gerbils and ginger ale.
	So our tax rate is running around 30% and it's going to go up thanks to Obama at 39.
	In Finland, the income tax rate national for an individual is between 6.5 and 29.7.
	You have to be making millions to get that high rate.
	I think it's a...
	Well, yeah.
	But the way they do moving violations is you can get fined like $10,000 for speeding.
	Well, you can get fined over $1,000 in California, and in Washington State, they fine you for going one mile over the speed limit.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But the weird thing here is, I'm looking at the taxes, the weird thing here is they have a church tax.
	In where?
	Inland.
	Really?
	1% to 2.5%.
	They need a no-agenda tax.
	Wouldn't that be nice if we just got a tax and just got like a credit every year?
	But then, of course, we wouldn't be able to say anything.
	No.
	You don't know that.
	Yeah, I know that.
	What's the worst they could do?
	They take the tax away.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So what were you going to say besides go to Dvorak.org slash NA? I already said that.
	Oh.
	You said what?
	No.
	I said nothing.
	What are you talking about?
	So I got a clip.
	This is a clip that you'd like.
	Max Kaiser, you know, the financial guy that's on Russia today, because it's the only place to get a gig.
	Do you know that Stacey, the woman who's on, that's his fiancée.
	Oh, his co-host?
	Yeah, he's doing her.
	That's what I thought.
	Well, she's feeding him softballs.
	I guess he's feeding her softballs, too.
	Hey-o!
	In the morning!
	He's saying now is that the end of the world is near.
	Of course, he says this all the time, unfortunately.
	But he's mentioned that KKR, Kravitz, Colvis, and Roberts, whatever, you know, the big private equity buyout guys.
	They've decided to, they're bundling a bunch of their deals and selling them off to the public.
	And Kaiser suspiciously says these guys would never do that unless they were going to collapse.
	And so they say that he thinks the whole thing's a scam.
	And he's in London now, apparently.
	Yeah, he used to be in Paris, and now he moved the outfit to London.
	I'm not sure why he did that.
	I don't know, but he sure likes to bitch about it, and here's where he goes off on the Queen.
	...out of control situation here, and it was mostly due to the lower corporate tax receipts.
	Right, because the economy is shrinking due to the scandals of the banks, the four horsemen of the paper apocalypse.
	Royal Bank of Scotland, Lloyds, HSBC, and did I mention Barclays?
	So these are the four major protagonists.
	In a tragedy called the killing of the UK economy.
	And George Osborne, of course, and David Cameron, they're going to need the global market to buy their debt.
	They need more debt to keep themselves afloat, even though the country's gone completely into a zombie state.
	So what is Cameron doing to the Eurozone, which could be a natural buyer of his debt?
	He's saying, no, no, we don't want to be a part of the Eurozone.
	He's antagonistic toward his boss, Angela Merkel.
	He's antagonistic.
	Who's going to be buying the bonds of the UK to finance their economy going forward?
	Not the Eurozone.
	No, no, no.
	Who's going to be buying these bonds?
	Oh, KKR? They can sell the Tower of London for 10 cents on the dollar.
	Sell Buckingham Palace for $50 billion and let's get over this whole royalty thing because that's a big waste of money.
	They got dual leverage buyout of Buckingham Palace.
	Dual leverage buyout of the Queen and all the spawn of the Queen and the Duke and get rid of this debt.
	Put them on a stamp, put them on a flag, but get rid of them as physical entities because they're mucking up the economy.
	As soon as you threaten that, of course, there will be a genuine old-fashioned debt jubilee.
	The Queen will say, I dispense with this debt.
	It is gone, KKR. Well, you know, Queen, listen to me, Queen Elizabeth.
	KKR is in your backyard threatening you.
	Declare a debt jubilee for this country and drive the snakes of KKR and other private equity groups out of Britain.
	Do your country a favor, Queen Elizabeth.
	Drive out the snakes of Cobalt, Kravitz, and Roberts.
	Now, let me say something.
	This is not one of my favorite Max Keiser bits.
	And now that I know that he and Stacey are in bed together, literally, it's annoying to me.
	Ha ha!
	It is.
	No, it's just annoying because I can see him yelling at her in the bedroom.
	I get all kinds of weird visions.
	But I think he's in London.
	I think he's on someone's payroll.
	I think he's sold out.
	I think he's yelling about certain things on the behest of someone else.
	That is what I think is going on.
	And that's part of the reason for his move close to the city of London, the banking city, which is his own entity, is his handlers want him close to the vest.
	And he couldn't be in France anymore to do this.
	I think he's sold out.
	And he's yelling about people and companies, but he's not yelling about all of them.
	And the Queen business was dumb.
	That was not a funny bit.
	Because what's really happening is, here's what I expect him to talk about, is there was a big meeting in Brussels where all of the Euro chiefs came together and to talk about the budget for the next decade, as they say it, which actually means decade, but they say decade.
	And here's Haiku Herman talking about that.
	We'll need some more time to finalize the solution.
	This is the budget for the rest of the decade.
	And the next seven years would be crucial to put Europe back on the path of recovery and growth.
	So we must get it right.
	There's no need to dramatize.
	These budget negotiations are so complex that generally takes two goals.
	My feeling is that we can go further But it takes some preparatory work and it has to be balanced.
	There is a political will to break some taboos and to find an agreement, finally.
	But the state of play at this stage is that on the basis of my proposal there is no agreement.
	I love how he takes, he literally took 15 minutes, I cut it down, to say there's no deal, there's no agreement on budget.
	That's what Max Keiser should be reporting on, is that everyone's trying to figure out how to screw the slaves more, and he's there yelling about KKR, qui bono on that.
	I think he's sold out.
	I'm not saying he didn't.
	I'm not a big Max Keiser fan.
	I just thought it was funny that he would ask the queen for a jubilee.
	Or anyone's even bringing it up.
	It's becoming a meme.
	Well, I think we were the first ones to talk about the debt jubilee.
	Six months ago.
	Well, but as recent as a month ago.
	It was a long time ago.
	Yeah, we brought it up and then we went into what that means.
	And it's every, what is it according to the Bible, every 50 years, I think?
	I don't remember.
	Some Bible guy in the chat room might know.
	Hey, Bible guy.
	Hey, Bible guy, you in there?
	Pipe up, Bible guy.
	Meanwhile, back here at home, where we live, little Timmy, he had this to say.
	Do you agree with Alan Greenspan we ought to just eliminate the debt ceiling?
	Oh, absolutely.
	You do.
	Will you propose that?
	Well, you know, this is something only Congress can solve.
	Congress put it on itself.
	We've had 100 years of experience with it.
	And I think only once last summer did people decide to use it to threaten default on the American credit for the first time in history as a tool for political advantage.
	And that's not a tenable strategy for the country.
	Is now the time to eliminate it?
	It would have been a long time ago to eliminate it.
	The sooner the better.
	So he actually wants the debt ceiling just eliminated altogether so he can just do whatever he wants.
	He's like, hey, print up more, more, more, more, more.
	Is this a good policy?
	Well, it depends on your perspective.
	I think most people would say no, but of course my thesis, which is that you should be printing more money by the ton, is that, yeah, it's a fine idea.
	Well, but should we just...
	So let's say you are the Bernanke, and you can do whatever you want.
	I mean, should we just let you go forever and ever, or should we give you a stop somewhere, like there should be some backstop?
	Well, I think you should go...
	Well, here's the way it would work.
	You'd go for as long as you could, and then the economy would collapse.
	Now, I know it's kind of a weird theory.
	There we are.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Hi, John.
	You should just walk around making that sound.
	And then it will collapse in 2017, whatever you do.
	The thing is, it's going to collapse anyway.
	So do you want to go through a miserable collapse that drags on forever?
	Because the last time we had one where we went through a miserable collapse, which was in 1929, it...
	Dragged on to 1940 because you had a party in power, the Democrats, that did everything they could to make sure, because they couldn't fix it and they didn't know what they were doing.
	Instead of a normal collapse, which lasts about a year and a half, because they don't try to fix it, the old school was, especially in 2008, was let these banks fail.
	Let these guys go out of business.
	Let them go through bankruptcy.
	Let General Motors go through bankruptcy.
	It doesn't mean they're going to stop making cars.
	It just means that they have a jubilee.
	Bankruptcy is Jubilee.
	And everybody, you know, restarts and then they...
	Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop.
	Say that again?
	Bankruptcy is Jubilee?
	Well, Jubilee is a broad basing, but it's individual Jubilee, yeah.
	I've got a million dollars in debt and I've got $500,000 in assets.
	I go bankrupt, now I'm a clean slate.
	This is a great idea.
	What's the downside?
	What's the downside?
	Well, the downside is that everybody does it and there's going to be zero liquidity out there for anybody getting any money because there won't be any money left.
	But there's no real downside to bankruptcy.
	It's part of the system.
	And it's part of the system for banks to go bankrupt.
	But they wouldn't let the banks go bankrupt so they gave them a jubilee.
	They should have given the public one and let the banks sort it out.
	Anyway, so that's what happens.
	And that's what's going to happen.
	But Bernanke, I think, is totally familiar with this kind of thinking, and he wants to crank the presses up.
	But everybody knows that it's considered a bad idea.
	Oh, they're printing money.
	They're printing money, not realizing that in 1849, when gold was discovered, it was the equivalent of printing money.
	You went out to your backyard, and you picked up a nugget.
	All of a sudden, this is now worth something you didn't have before the day before.
	Well, if we could only make dog poop the new gold, then we'd be in business.
	Just make that valuable.
	Just say, hey, dog poop is now the new gold.
	I'd be the richest guy in this area.
	Look at this nugget over here.
	This is a really good nugget I found.
	But I was talking to the kids last night, and I want to make sure I'm not giving them false information.
	Because, you know, the kids today, you know, like Buzzkill Jr.'s age, he's what, 24?
	No, he's older.
	He's older?
	Yeah.
	Oh, okay.
	So these kids are 20, 22.
	And they're looking at, like, what kind of future do they have?
	And I told them last night, I said, it's going to suck until 2017, but then it's going to be great.
	Do I have to revise that?
	Did I get it the wrong way around?
	Well, here's what the cycle, the classic worst-case scenario cycle, and even a best-case scenario cycle, hit 2017 as an issue.
	And what happens is you get a run-up and everything looks good and you can probably position yourself in a nice job to coast because you have a secondary collapse in 2017, which will happen in one way or the other.
	And then it goes flat.
	It looks like it's going flat, but that's your opportunity right there because from then on until 2025, 2026, everything's rosy.
	So it picks up, except for one small issue.
	And this is, again, my...
	Stop, stop, stop, stop.
	Before you continue, just say that in short.
	So, suck until 2017, then it's good until 2025?
	Is that what you said?
	No, you have what, things are actually beginning to get good, and so you have a run-up and then a collapse, a second collapse.
	Give me the dates.
	When does it suck?
	When is it good?
	Make it simple for me.
	I would say that if you really want to be conservative, you put all your money and invest everything you have starting in 2018, 2019.
	After it collapses in 2017.
	Because there's like a bull trap.
	I'm confused.
	You told me we're going to have the big collapse in March of 2013.
	So what happens between 2013 and 2017?
	Flat.
	Nothing goes on.
	Bad.
	So nothing happens.
	Then 2017, that's when the run-up starts to 2025 when we have the mega collapse.
	Yeah, but what happens is the run-up usually results in a minor collapse that looks like it's never going to end.
	But that's bull crap.
	It's just a trick.
	It's a trap.
	All right, let me ask you this.
	This is too complicated.
	No wonder you haven't written the book.
	You keep rewriting it.
	It's like it's always changed.
	I have not changed any of these opinions.
	Okay, so when is everything over?
	When is it like the 80s and 90s, hookers and blow and party time again?
	When does that start?
	Well, there's a complication.
	Ugh.
	Let me tell you what it is.
	2020 is when you can just throw all your money into anything and you'll be rich.
	But here's the problem.
	Every 80 years, there is a massive dislocation war style.
	It started with the American Revolution.
	80 years later, we had the Civil War.
	80 years later, we had World War II. And 80 years later is 2020.
	Mm-hmm.
	and trying to scope out what's going to happen in 2020, drone wars, we have no idea, because every one of these wars is a little different.
	There was a revolutionary period in the 1700s.
	Civil wars, a totally alien thing we'll never have again in this country, that was different, and then World War II, which stemmed from World War I in many ways, was crazy, and we probably won't say anything like that again, because with all the nukes we've got, nobody's going to do that.
	So it'll be something else.
	I think it's going to be some sort of proxy war with drones or something along those lines.
	I have no idea.
	There'll be drones flying over, foreign drones shooting at us.
	I don't know.
	But that's a complication.
	But that's going to be 1920.
	2020.
	I don't think so.
	I think it's going to be different.
	I think it will be a cyber war, and it will be about bits and bytes, power on, power off.
	I believe even in 2000, but this, no.
	Obama's term, this term that we have, that he has, the four years he's going into, we will see, most likely false flag, we will see a cyber attack that takes down at least a part, if not all, of the power grid for a period of time.
	We're going to see that.
	And I think it's coming in 2013.
	It'll be a part of your 100 years antiquated infrastructure because we're going to need that.
	We're going to need to put people to work and doing something.
	We're going to need warfare for the 2020 war.
	I think a cyber war is the easiest because you can still do all the damage.
	You don't kill people in the old-fashioned way.
	You know, you kill them by, you know, their stuff doesn't work.
	You know, their electricity doesn't, you know.
	Yeah, they get cold and die.
	Yeah, they die off.
	You know, it's just simple.
	It's a simple way to do it.
	It's really frightening.
	And only the hackers and the sysadmins will be the ones who keep us alive and help us survive.
	And they're our friends, which is good.
	Well, I don't know.
	I said, you know, these things are always, you never know how they're going to shake out.
	You can only, I only know the cycle and I can just kind of surmise what might happen.
	You could be right.
	It could be that.
	I think drones are more exciting.
	Yeah.
	I think the drones is just a temporary thing.
	Well, actually, you can combine the two.
	You can take drones that are hacked.
	Yeah.
	And then, you know, and they're flying around.
	Driving them into towers.
	Yeah, well, no, I mean, you know, drone the wrong people and, you know, that could all be a part of it.
	Hmm.
	Meanwhile, there's some weird protests going on, particularly in Euroland, where things appear to be on fire now.
	I put a video in the video section of the show notes.
	By the way, show notes you get as a part of your value-for-value proposition, 464.nashownotes.com.
	Also, noagendanewsnetwork.com, where you can always get the latest news as it rolls through on a...
	A minutely basis, literally.
	And the video is titled Excerpts of German Documentary about the General Failure of Europe.
	It has subtitles.
	It's very, very good.
	It's about 15 minutes.
	You must watch this.
	It shows all the rioting, all the crap that's going on.
	But I have a question about this next report, which comes from Euronews.
	I have a question about this particular protest, John.
	No!
	Italian teachers and students have once again hit the streets of Rome, just ten days after protests about the latest cuts to the education budget turned violent.
	Despite spending less than almost all wealthy countries on education, according to the most recent OECD figures, the Italian government has repeatedly cut spending in the sector in recent years.
	These are not shields to fighting clashes.
	We're carrying these for effect.
	They have important messages on them, which we'd like to send everyone here.
	We're protesting against the cuts to the education budget that were carried out by both the Berlusconi and Monty governments.
	The protests went ahead without police authorization.
	Security personnel stayed on high alert in case of further clashes.
	Teachers and students are also worried about a controversial bill currently being discussed in Parliament, which would allow schools to bid for private funding.
	And then there's the problem of work once students leave education.
	The jobless rate among young people in Italy stands at 35%.
	So I listened to this report, and I'm going back to my own school days.
	Now, back in the day, I hoped for nothing but the school to crumble and then not to be any money for teachers.
	I'm like, yay, less school.
	Hated school.
	And now we have young kids protesting because the government's not funding the school enough?
	It makes no sense to me.
	And then I thought, wait a minute.
	Are these commie bastards, are they just trying to stay in school longer so they don't have to go out into the workplace where there's no work?
	Is that what's going on?
	Can you explain this to me?
	Well, it surprises me that this is a shock to you because we've already seen, I guess a year and a half ago, where the Brits had this issue where the kids didn't like to hire tuitions.
	They made a big fuss about it.
	Oh, yes, you're right.
	And then we had the Canadian thing, the Red Square people.
	The Quebecians.
	The Quebecers.
	And they actually took over seats in Parliament.
	So this is a major, major trend in the world.
	So the trend is...
	Oh, of course not.
	And they don't want it to be publicly, they don't want it to be commercialized because then they know that they're definitely not going to get, you know, a free ride because, you know, commercial companies don't work that way.
	Hmm.
	Interesting.
	Just rethink it.
	You'll come up with something.
	No, no, I'm starting to understand, but we don't have that here in America.
	No, we just have some other kind of scam going on.
	I mean, it still surprises me, and the only thing I can come up with is it must be the drugs that we have all these kids on.
	It just really surprises me how no one is angry.
	No one's out protesting.
	Nobody protests anymore in the United States.
	Anything at all.
	Anything.
	Well, when they do it and the media doesn't cover it and they're quashed and there's no point in it.
	Yeah.
	Talking about education?
	Yes.
	I got a little iPads bad for kids report that's kind of interesting to me.
	Experts have cautioned against letting toddlers below 3 years old to get too familiar with mobile devices.
	They say it might hamper their ability to learn as they grow.
	3-year-old Randy Smith has been playing with an iPad since he was 2, and his parents say he is quite familiar with some of the mobile device's advanced features.
	But experts we spoke to believe children his age should spend more time interacting with their physical environment.
	They say interacting too much with a virtual interface could interfere with a child's ability to understand the world around him.
	Wow, yeah.
	This little kid they had in the report, he had an iPhone in his hand, he wouldn't put it down or stop looking at it and poking at it.
	Right.
	I think it's sick.
	Yeah, it is sad.
	Well, isn't it kind of true that throughout human history, technology eventually gets us into big trouble?
	Well, it's better than living in a cave.
	Well, but we were living in caves and then we invented fire.
	And then fire eventually got us to the point where we were burning each other down.
	And that was technology one.
	And then we had the wheel and then we were running each other down.
	And then we had gunpowder and then we were killing each other down.
	And, you know, it just keeps on going.
	I mean, so won't we eventually just be cybering each other to death?
	Stick with your theory.
	I like this.
	You can develop this into a small e-book.
	A giblet.
	A giblet on Amazon.
	A giblet.
	Yes.
	It's a very small book.
	It's about four pages.
	I just wrote it.
	So, by the way, did you hear this story, the UK takes foster children?
	Yeah, I have a clip.
	Do you have a clip?
	I have a clip.
	This is a competitive clip.
	No, let me hear your clip.
	Yeah.
	Hold on a second.
	This is amazing, this story.
	I mean, do you need to set it up, or do you just go into it?
	Yeah, this is the setup.
	This, by all accounts, is a family with an exemplary fostering record.
	They've been fostering kids for the last 12 years.
	What?
	The front of the clip is missing.
	I'll set it up.
	It says UK takes foster children.
	Yeah, yeah.
	I don't know what happened to the front of it.
	You know what?
	Listen, my clip explains it better.
	The Education Secretary has condemned the decision of Rotherham Borough Council to remove three children from the care of a couple because they're members of the UK Independence Party.
	Michael Gove said the decision is indefensible.
	Rotherham Council said it's launching an immediate inquiry and that has taken the action because of UKIP's stance on immigration as the siblings were EU migrants.
	Now, speaking to BBC News this morning, the head of Children's Services at Rotherham Borough Council, Joyce Backer, said Social Services took the decision because the children's long-term needs were not being met.
	People can move any political party, but I have to weigh up the appropriateness of placing children in certain settings.
	So I might be criticised, for example, of placing Pakistani children in a non-Pakistani household, for example, if the family, if the birth family were keen that they remain brought up in that faith and that culture, because I would be having to think to myself, can the The host family, the foster carers, meet the cultural and ethnic needs of the family.
	So there's absolutely no difference to this one, really.
	So as I say, in different circumstances, a perfectly good foster, good fosters, but I had to take the decision in conjunctual legal advice as to a longer-term future for the children.
	You know, I thought a long time about what is going on here, and although I'm not entirely sure where this is coming, this is a PR move by someone, no doubt.
	Did you have a thought on that before I dive into it?
	Well, there's an election in the area where the Independence Party has actually got a candidate that probably wouldn't win but could now, so there's that angle.
	So the Independence Party, for anyone out there, Americans in particular, this is the party that Nigel Farage belongs to, and it's a small...
	A party of about 12% of the public in the UK that believes that the EU sucks.
	Right.
	And that they shouldn't let every Pakistani that wants to come and become a Brit be one.
	Well, actually, no.
	So this is a little different in this case.
	What the woman says, or the council, by the way.
	No, I'm just talking about the Independence Party in general, the way they're perceived.
	Right.
	Well, what you said about Europe is very, very important because the way they're perceived is different, I think, obviously, from what is going on.
	They do not want the influx of East Europeans, Europeans from the Balkan states, coming onto an island.
	It's very weird when you have an island because it tends to get full and difficult to manage when you just open up the borders, which, by the way, is no longer true.
	It's not that easy to get in anymore, but they're all in, essentially.
	And in the council, so this kind of the local government in Gitmo Nation East, it's very, very frightening the power these people have and the things they do.
	These are the people that put hidden cameras into your trash cans, you know, cameras in people's houses to make sure that they're treating their children.
	They take children away, child protective services if they're too fat.
	It's really, really Gitmo Nation to the extreme.
	Very, very frightening.
	And when you see this woman talking, you throw up in your mouth.
	I mean, it's like a little Hitler.
	A little Valerie Jarrett Hitler woman.
	And you can just see it.
	Like, oh my god, just such a...
	So what is happening here is these children are in a foster home and they've been placed into a different foster home with the judgment...
	No, no, they weren't placed in a different foster home.
	I understand they were placed in an orphanage.
	No, I think they were being put into a different foster home.
	That's not the report I have, but go on.
	I've been researching this for kind of like two days.
	So they were in a foster home, but these foster parents are members of the UK Independent Party who believe that Europeans should get out.
	These two children are Eastern Europeans.
	Exactly the kind that the UKIP party thinks should be kicked out.
	So the council is saying this is a bad situation for them because these foster parents are against, it's a very weird reasoning obviously, but they're against having these types of human resources even being in Gitmo Nation at all, analogous to not putting Pakistani orphans with Pakistani foster parents.
	That's what they're saying.
	I think it's a big PR job.
	I'm not quite sure who's benefiting because it's sick and twisted and it just shows you how demented the United Kingdom really is.
	You know, we don't get much donations from the UK anymore.
	It's just dropped off the face of the earth.
	Yeah, because they're sick and demented over there.
	Sick and demented.
	Because all people do there is drink.
	You know, Christina has a lot of friends on Facebook.
	She basically grew up, her formative years as a teenager were in and around London.
	And these kids, I love them.
	They're very, very sweet.
	I know them all.
	And they're amounting to absolutely nothing.
	Zero.
	They're amounting to nothing, John.
	There's no work.
	There's no place to go.
	They're all living at home.
	If they're not living at home, they're living around at their friends' houses.
	They're couchsurfing.
	I'm generalizing, and I'd love to hear from some of our producers in Gitmo Nation East, but I agree.
	I think they're just lying in the gutter in a drunken stupor, and they're not listening to podcasts anymore.
	It could be.
	I only have one last weird clip, which goes off topic a little bit, but I just thought this was peculiar when I saw it on one of the foreign broadcasts.
	The priests versus imams.
	Okay.
	Just play it and you'll see what it's about.
	Bosnia.
	Catholic priests and Muslim imams face off in a charity soccer match.
	Religious leaders from both groups came up with the idea after local authorities said the city needed money for a new kindergarten.
	Thousands of fans bought tickets to the match and cheered whoever scored.
	The priests won 5-3.
	Was it a reality show?
	Isn't this going to cause some sort of an incident?
	The priests beat the imams five to three?
	Where did this take place?
	In Bosnia.
	Is this an end-of-all production?
	Mark Burnett, will they be bringing this to Fox?
	That actually would be a great show.
	We have priests versus imams.
	It's a fantastic show.
	Talking about that sort of thing, I'm up here in the Canadian border, so I watch Canadian TV, and last night they didn't have any of the American football games, so I missed all of them.
	But I got to see, and I didn't realize it was Canadian, because I got to watch the Saskatchewan Sirens play the Vancouver Angels in Lingerie Football Bowl.
	What is lingerie?
	Like, they play in lingerie?
	Yeah.
	No.
	No.
	Yeah.
	It's lingerie with some padding they need for football.
	It's a football game.
	But is it women or dudes?
	It's women.
	Women jocks.
	The same kind of women that would be wrestlers.
	Lingerie.
	Women jocks.
	What is it called?
	It's called lingerie football bowl.
	B-O-W-L. And it's a major sport, apparently, in Canada.
	My wife was watching, she's renamed the team as Saskatchewan Sluts.
	Oh my god!
	Oh my god!
	Here's a picture of two of the contestants tonguing each other.
	There you have it.
	Oh my god, is this available on television?
	Show notes.
	Yes, big time show notes.
	Oh my goodness, this is on Canadian television?
	Yeah.
	So let's get those sling boxes, everybody.
	We need to understand what's happening.
	Oh my goodness.
	Wow, and they play football.
	Yeah, tackle football.
	I cannot believe that we don't have this in America.
	This is fantastic.
	I mean, I think football is a great sport now.
	Wow.
	You can get a franchise here on the I-L-F-L-U-S dot com site.
	We can get a franchise?
	Really?
	I'm putting this in the show notes.
	I'll put it under sports is good.
	Hold on.
	Sports is good.
	And you can find that.
	It's a new category here on the show.
	Wow.
	Wow, wow, wow.
	They say it's an American...
	I would look at this American Lingerie Football League and it says it's America, but these are Canadian teams playing each other.
	I don't see the Americans involved.
	But these are Canadian women.
	Canadian women are hot!
	It's basically, for those of you, of course, listening to the podcast in the car, trying to drive and Google this with one hand, stop, because you're going to crash when you see the images.
	It's basically the cheerleaders are playing football.
	That's essentially what it is.
	But they have, like, lingerie on.
	Oh, my God.
	Well, I guess it's kind of lingerie.
	There are no field goals, no punts.
	It's a kickoff to start the game in the second half.
	The team must attempt to get a first down on every fourth.
	So it's the same?
	Well, no, because they don't punt.
	There are seven women on each side of the 50-yard field.
	It's like arena football.
	It's kind of closer to arena football.
	It's a quarterback, a couple of running backs.
	And they go for it.
	It's really something to see.
	Let me see if there's video.
	Video.
	This is...
	I love that first picture I got, though, of the two contestants kissing each other.
	Sexy!
	My goodness.
	So who won?
	Who won the 2000...
	You know, it was tied 6-6 at the half, and I went to do some clips.
	I don't know who won.
	It was the Saskatoon.
	I can look it up.
	Saskatchewan.
	They probably play out of Saskatoon, if you might guess.
	Yeah, John.
	Yeah.
	So let me just get this straight.
	You were pre-producing the show.
	I couldn't watch the whole game.
	Right.
	Okay.
	Well, good work.
	Good work, my friend.
	You've turned me on to a new sport, which I'm really...
	Finally, a sport I can rally behind.
	What's kind of funny is they have their celebration dances, too.
	When the B.C. Angels make a touchdown, they all drop to the ground and do a snow angel on the grass.
	It's quite humorous.
	No!
	Yes!
	Okay.
	I mean, this is great.
	All I need is some lingerie bowl and some Haldol, and I'm good to go.
	If you type in BC Angels, you'll get some videos.
	I think I'm quite done with looking at all this.
	Thank you very much.
	Okay.
	So we have an end of show clip sent to me by Sir Jim.
	It's Jonathan Rauch.
	And it is titled, In Defense of Being Offensive, and this ties into the bullying meme, although not mentioned specifically, but how we need to remain offensive to each other from time to time, because that is the only way we grow as human beings.
	So after you hear this clip, go out and offend somebody, and then let us know how it worked out for you.
	Because it's not so accepted anymore, but it's very important.
	Which is part of the reason why we are the best podcast in the universe.
	We are equal opportunity offenders.
	We learn, we grow from this, and we hope you do too.
	And if you felt you grew somewhat, no matter where, send us a donation.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. You're not doing that show, are you, later today?
	No, you just hang out.
	I'm in Washington State.
	Right, perfect.
	So we're back on Thursday.
	Looking forward to speaking with you.
	Coming to you from the capital of the Drone Star State.
	It is Austus, Texan.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley north, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll be back on Thursday and in about 15 minutes, live on the In the Morning Net, Echolink Node 3373, right here on No Agenda.
	Offended is part of how we learn.
	If you can't offend people, then you can't criticize people.
	And if you can't criticize people and ideas, then there is absolutely no way to figure out what ideas are good and what ideas are bad.
	My name is Jonathan Rausch.
	I'm a guest scholar at the Brookings Institution in Washington, and I wrote a book a while back called Kindly Inquisitors, The New Attacks on Free Thought.
	Every authority in human history that has tried to enforce one orthodoxy or another, first has got it wrong, and second has been well-intentioned.
	Whenever anyone tells you, I've got it right, I've got the one true answer, and everyone else is wrong, and I'm going to enforce it, that person is not only a menace to freedom, but more important, a menace to human thriving and human knowledge.
	And it would be a shame if universities of all places in this country forgot that lesson.
	The fundamental reason we have universities is to discover knowledge and to convey to students how we discover knowledge.
	The way we discover knowledge is by starting out with our prejudices, our bigotries, our mistakes and testing them and throwing away the 99% that's wrong and keeping the rest.
	But prejudice and bigotry and error are not the enemies of knowledge.
	They're the raw material of knowledge.
	The enemy of knowledge is the kind of certitude that won't let you put prejudice and bigotry and error out there and won't let you test it.
	Because if you can't test the bad stuff in order to weed out the good stuff, all you have is bad stuff.
	I've been writing as an openly gay advocate of gay equality and now gay marriage for 20 years.
	And to me it's been a miracle to witness the power of persuasion in America.
	As Martin Luther King understood and as Frank Kameny, the great gay activist who recently died, understood, by far the most important tool that minorities have for Obtaining equality in America is our power to change people's mind by our force of argument and by our force of example.
	So I wrote a book called Kindly Inquisitors about 20 years ago in which I argued that the biggest threat to freedom of speech in America in many ways is not from the traditional book burners and censors.
	It's from well-intentioned liberals and progressives in many cases who want to protect minorities and want to protect people from being, as they called it, wounded by words.
	What they were trying to do, I called it the humanitarian impulse because basically it was trying to make society a better and kinder place.
	The problem with that is that it's misguided because We, members of minorities, we're not delicate flowers.
	We don't need to be protected from people who don't like us or respected because we can't earn their respect or admiration or change their mind by hiding from them.
	We have got to be in situations where we can confront and encounter them, sometimes angrily but more often with persuasion.
	The humanitarian attack Basically, unfortunately, stigmatizes criticism.
	It says, hurting people's feeling with words is a bad thing.
	Well, it's not a good thing, I grant you that, but it's a necessary part of the knowledge creation process.
	Forcing people into dialogue, forcing them to criticize each other and to encounter ideas that they may not like, that is the purpose of a university, and that is the thing that saves minorities and moves humanity toward newer, better ideas.
	The core principle for me is the distinction between on the one hand what I call purism and on the other hand what I call pluralism.
	Purism is the idea that a society has to be effectively cleansed of prejudice and bigotry and hateful views because as long as those views are around minorities are going to feel unsafe or be unsafe.
	Pluralism is a very different view.
	It says, bring it on.
	The more the better.
	The only really safe situation in society is when you can pit these views against each other and when minorities get their say and have the opportunity to denounce and refute views that are biased and bigoted.
	I think the right answer, and I think this has been proven by centuries of human experience, is in fact pluralism.
	We can't trust anybody in authority to make smart decisions for us about what's the acceptable point of view.
	And I think again and again on college campuses and elsewhere, it's been minorities and others who at the end of the day have stood up and said, you know, if we don't stand up for groups that take the other side, who's going to stand up for us?
	One of the things that the great writer H.L. Mencken once said is that no good idea was ever born that didn't start out by offending people.
	Being offended is part of how we learn.
	If you can't offend people, then you can't criticize people.
	And if you can't criticize people and ideas, then there is absolutely no way to figure out what ideas are good and what ideas are bad.
	I'm not for offending people on purpose.
	But is offendedness an absolutely indispensable part of the process of developing knowledge and living together as a society?
	Absolutely.
	And is it a dangerous situation when someone can shut down the search for truth by saying, oh, that offends me?
	Absolutely.
	Fades back, got some pressure, steps up in the pop, it just lofted, and Brittany Tegler right there for the interception.
	Looking long, looking for Kraus.
	She's got it!
	Great catch!
	I think she just shot.
	Leofano comes off one tackle, leads forward, and I think, yeah, she did.
	Touchdown!
	Podcast in the universe!

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