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440: It Can't Happen Here
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It's a tongue that sticks out of the mouth.
I gotta get me some of this.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Sunday, September 2nd, 2012.
Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 440.
This is No Agenda.
The lies I tell you here at the capital of the Drone Star State.
We're in Austin Tejas in the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from the same old place in northern Silicon Valley where we refuse to leave no matter how much they pound on the door, I'm John C. Dvorak.
They're finally there, huh?
Hey, Dvorak!
We're kicking you out!
Get out!
Get out!
Really?
Hey, good news.
Good news today, John.
Whoa!
Day five of the great Curry household no smoking campaign, and my eyesight has restored.
That's good news for everyone.
Well, it is, because...
You didn't have to go to the doctor or anything?
I did not, no.
I wonder what that was, then, because, you know, I've never heard of such a thing, and nobody else seems to know.
What?
Yeah, four out of five dentists agree.
Is there something else going on?
No, no.
I'm pretty convinced that...
Smoking in the morning.
It's like a whole machine that I used to kick start.
Excuse me?
When?
You said smoking when?
In the morning.
Oh, in the morning.
And in the morning to all ships and seas.
In the morning!
Boots on the ground, subs in the water, feet in the air, and I also want to say a healthy good morning to all the knights out there.
Yeah, it's nice to have everyone.
And of course our human resources in the chat room there.
All charged up, ready to go at noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net.
I am...
I'm halfway through your recommended literature, Professor Dvorak, that you sent me off on Thursday.
I immediately ordered it right after the show and received it on Friday from the Amazons.
Not available.
And here's what's interesting.
The book It Can't Happen Here by Sinclair Lewis.
Yes.
Which you recommended.
Actually, you have recommended this before, I recall, at least a year ago.
Yeah, probably longer.
Maybe even.
Not available on the Kindles.
And so I ordered the book, and immediately I find out that it's actually, it is so old, written in, I believe, 1929...
No.
19...
It was 33.
32, 33, right.
It is actually available on the Gutenberg Press, gutenberg.org.
Oh, it's free.
Why bother?
Well, it's free.
I will say the reason I like...
Well, first of all, I like a printed book, kind of.
It's always nice.
There's an introduction here by Michael Meyer.
I have no idea who he is, but he kind of helps you understand that this was written in the early 30s, and he gives a little bit of context to some of the people and the way it's written.
Here's what I'd like to say.
Even from page 5, but now that I'm halfway through, do you know what this book reminds me of?
And I'm serious about this.
Oh, no.
Here we go.
I have to tell you.
It absolutely...
And what year did she write that book?
57, I believe.
Oh!
And who was one of the most influential authors in the United States?
Sinclair Lewis.
So she basically stole his story.
Okay, well that makes sense to me.
I'm glad you brought that up.
I'm glad you admitted that this is the situation.
It's very possible that this...
I wasn't even going to say it for that reason other than thank you very much for giving me this wonderful piece of literature to consume and enjoy.
Because if you liked Atlas Shrugged, I think you will love Sinclair Lewis.
And it's also...
It's about a...
A fifth of the side.
Yeah, at least.
Maybe a sixth.
But it's a very quick read.
You can get that thing down.
What's the page count?
Like 220, 240?
No, no, it's more than that.
No, no, no.
It's 300 max.
No, no, no, no, no.
I count three.
It's 400.
It is?
No, 379.
Well, it seems longer than if I, as I recall.
Well, it depends on how big the book is.
You know, this is a pocket, this is a paperback, so if you made it into a hardcover, it would probably be 300 pages.
Good point, right?
I like the story, though, and after you're done with that, you might as well read another book I recommend, which is a most temporary book.
What's that?
Life and Death in Shanghai.
Wait a minute.
Does that have anything to do with us living in a totalitarian fascist state?
It actually refers to the changeover.
It's when the communists took over Shanghai.
It's very interesting.
It was banned in China.
What I like about It Can't Happen Here is it has all kinds of awesome little things in there, like the radio priest who buys his airtime to run without commercials.
It has the Wesley Mooch character in here.
The whole thing.
It's got the wives.
It's got kind of our protagonist.
The whole thing is great.
Not a lot of...
No good sex, I have to say, on the sex so far, at least, unless something's coming up later.
When you have a good story, you don't need to throw a bunch of gratuitous sex in.
Just go buy a sex book.
Sex doesn't have to be gratuitous.
It's 90% of it's gratuitous.
It doesn't contribute to the plot.
Give me 10%.
Unless it's a sex story.
Yeah, but give me...
Come on, this is a part of life.
Sex happens?
Yeah.
Well, go make it happen.
What's it got to do with reading a book?
Because it's a fictional story.
I mean, it can just have a little bit of tension in there just to kind of loosen it all up.
There's plenty of tension.
I think a gun to the head has got more tension than sex.
Well, how about a gun to the head during sex?
Well, there you go.
Now you're talking to the Penn State people.
Either way, did you know the Penn State story which really gets to you?
Yeah, because it was a whole ring of elites that they're now slowly going to uncover and cover up again, yes.
Did you know that there...
I didn't know this.
Of course, it's been kind of covered up.
They had a theme song for the school.
And you actually should have to go look up the lyrics.
No, really?
Yeah.
When the football team came out or when they won or something.
I don't know when they played, but they banned it.
Because somebody finally looked at the lyrics.
No.
And it was Sweet Caroline...
By, uh, what's the name of that guy?
You mean Neil, uh...
Neil, uh, yeah, Diamond.
Yeah, Sweet Caroline.
And by the way, did you know the backstory of that song was written about a 12-year-old, Caroline Kennedy?
You're kidding me.
Really?
You gotta go look up the lyrics, because this is about touching you, touching me, all these lines.
Wait a minute, then.
Yeah, that's right.
Touching me, touching you.
Hey, baby.
Yeah, come on, sweet.
Let's play it for a moment here.
Let's see.
Is it...
This is a rock version.
We need the Neil Diamond version.
No, you need the Neil Diamond version.
Diamond.
Sweet Caroline.
Sweet Caroline.
I think I had read something about that being...
Yeah, it was talked about in a bunch of sports shows, but it didn't make mainstream media.
I think people may be tired of the story, but I thought it was hilarious, personally.
So here's what...
Apparently, here's one Sweet Caroline Kennedy, so maybe he sings an alternative version.
No.
Well, maybe.
That could be.
Hold on, I have to...
That would be...
Let's see.
Dennis Morgan began working with Neil when he ran the San Francisco office for MCA Universal Music Group.
Neil appeared to regulate the Circle Star Theater.
Blah, blah, blah.
Truth be told.
Okay.
So hold on a second.
Skip ad.
Why does it...
I mean, does that really...
Here we go.
Yeah, it was a great song.
I always thought it was about Radio Caroline.
How stupid am I? Yeah, you would.
Yeah.
Here we go, everybody.
Hey, Tito Bear!
Look at the night.
Oh, yeah.
Come on, baby.
And it don't seem so lonely.
No lonely.
Because I'm a pen.
We fill it up with only two.
Yeah, I hear you're slapping in the shower, baby.
Clap along.
What I heard, blah, blah, blah.
The way he's even singing it is creeping me out now.
It's totally creepy.
That song is totally creepy.
Wow!
You know, I think I had read something, but it didn't connect about the sweet Caroline touching me, touching you.
I forgot that part.
We gotta get to the chorus of this.
This is...
Get my shoulders.
Rub it, baby.
It's all about context, isn't it, John?
Yeah, well, that's the problem.
Let me get to the chorus here.
Here we go.
Touching me.
Touching me.
Hey, baby.
Hey, sweet Caroline.
Or Bob or Pete, whatever your name is.
Sounds so good.
Holy crap.
It's the Pedo Anthem.
But it was written about...
Taking the show to the top, right?
You are amazing, John C. Dvorak.
I mean, this is my turf.
What are you doing on my beat, man?
You don't pay attention.
You don't listen to sports talk radio.
Damn it.
I knew something was wrong.
Sports talk radio.
Yeah, that's where I need to spend my time.
Wow.
So, it's been banned.
Apparently.
Wow.
So, what will the new song be?
We need to help them with the new song.
Yeah, there you go.
Yeah, we need a new song for fans.
We could fill up a whole show with just songs that we come up with for them.
Wow.
Okay, comedy at the top of the show there.
That's great.
Yeah, I'm done.
I'm good.
You're good to go.
Yeah, actually, great.
So, some interesting things happened here that I've kind of seen spreading globally.
And this is the whole idea of, he's lying!
I'm going to fact check it!
Fact check!
He's a fact check!
He's lying!
Liar!
Have you heard this?
Have you noticed this?
Yeah.
This meme?
So this is now spreading.
In Gitmo Nation lowlands, the Netherlands, they have snap elections on September 12th, I believe.
Which I think is the same day as the iPhone 5, which is, you know, planning is everything, boys.
And...
And they're doing the same thing now because they have their debates.
And of course, the Netherlands is a coalition country where the losers have to work with the winners, which is kind of an interesting system.
Well, actually, we had some of that in the United States in the early beginnings in the first 50 years or so.
Oh, really?
Was that our system, kind of?
I think the second-place guy would get vice president or something.
Oh, really?
It was really screwy.
The second-place guy got to be vice president, so if you're president, you're always, like, looking over your shoulder?
Yeah, I'm going to get you.
Wow.
But I'm seeing the same discourse of, you're lying, he's lying, the press going, he lied, he lied!
And all I saw as, of course, the last time we spoke was it was always at the eve of of the closing of the Republican destruction.
Yeah, the closing of the Republican National Convention.
And it was just amazing to see how the press, the media or whatever they call themselves, these douchebag liars, they're the liars.
Like, he's lying.
His speech was filled with lies.
We fact-checked everything.
And poor Clint Eastwood.
You know, the guy goes out.
I admire that bit.
The thing I didn't realize at the time, he ad-libbed the entire comedy act.
First of all, the whole reason he's there, we do understand, is he's got a movie out.
It seems like a really good movie.
It's about baseball, actually.
Here's a little bit of the trailer.
You'd be the only woman.
My father is a baseball scout.
I grew up around men who swore, drank, and farted.
Damn check.
Trust me, I can handle it.
It's a comedy.
It's got Justin Timberlake in it.
It looks like a really fun movie.
So, of course, you know, this is an excellent opportunity to promote that.
So I encourage that.
I think that's great.
What was interesting is, and I actually saw his speech.
But when you see the reviews of people who maybe saw it, but want to tell other people who didn't see it, who just, you know, like watch headline news, HLN or something, it's like, uh, kooky old guy rambles.
Yeah.
See now, crazy.
Crazy.
Stumbling and bumbling.
Crazy.
And they have a term now.
This is Euronews, which I thought would be appropriate because this is how the Europeans, they have to read their own version of the script.
So Euronews is obviously a compromised news organization.
Let's just deconstruct how they are presenting what Clint Eastwood said.
Ann Romney called Clint Eastwood a unique guy after his rambling one-sided conversation.
Rambling one-sided conversation?
It wasn't rambling!
Of course he was giving a speech that's going to be one-sided.
It's rambling, and Ann Romney like, oh, unique guy.
So already setting it up like, motherfuckers crazy!
...with an imaginary Barack Obama at the Republican National Convention, and it appears her view is widely shared.
It appears her view is widely shared.
Appears.
The surprise speaker brought star power to the show as he warmed up the crowd for Mitt Romney's presidential nomination acceptance speech.
The promises that you made when you were running for election, how do you handle it?
I mean, what do you say to people?
But he's now become a surprise internet hit with the president himself joining a host of celebrities and others in poking fun at the Hollywood actor and director.
The 82-year-old's cameo appearance seemed to thrill many in the audience, but it's been widely panned on the web, even giving rise to a new term, Eastwooding.
So how do you measure widely on the web?
Just say it.
You don't have to measure anything.
Exactly.
And this term, Eastwooding, they just completely made that up.
It's a new meme.
It's called Eastwooding.
No, it's not.
No one's saying that.
It's dumb.
It's not even funny, Eastwood-ing.
You've been Eastwood-ed.
No one's saying that.
It's completely ridiculous.
I mean, it would go like this.
Bob Newhart brought out to come out at the stage and talks to imaginary people on the phone.
What an idiot!
Oh, no!
How's it possible?
Yeah, so here is the one minute of the speech.
I think it was two minutes where he did some stand-up shtick, which I thought was pretty decent and was funny.
Yeah, he's an 82-year-old man doing stand-up in front of a big audience, and I thought he did very well.
You can't be ageist, positive or negative.
It has nothing to do whether he's 82 or not.
It has nothing to do with it.
He's not a kid.
He's not a black rapper.
Oh, you're going to go there?
Well, you have to wait.
I'm not ready to go towards all the black-white stuff.
I'm not quite ready for that.
But here's the one minute that I think deserves listening to, which he was completely...
It was just great.
This was a great one minute of Clint Eastwood.
We own this country.
Hello.
Nice.
We own it.
They even used your clip of applause.
Oh, yeah.
Here it comes.
Yes, we own it.
And it's not you owning it and not politicians owning it.
Politicians are employees of ours.
Nice!
Nice!
This is good!
I'm just going to come around and beg for votes every few years, and it's the same old deal.
This, by the way, sounds exactly like you.
Not the way he's saying, well, not the accent or anything, but you could have written that.
This could have been you up there.
It's like, eh, they just come around and beg for votes every couple of years, you know.
Okay, I guess you disagree.
I thought he did fine.
Hold on.
It's important that you realize that you're the best in the world.
And whether you're a Democrat or whether you're a Republican or whether you're a Libertarian or whatever, you're the best.
And we should not ever forget that.
And when somebody does not do the job, we've got to let them go.
I love that.
Doesn't do the job.
You know, his real slam was against that thing Obama did, which seems to be dissipating for some reason.
The Republicans are not getting on.
By the way, they did bring up the just getting by meme.
Yeah, I caught that.
But it was so minor.
They weren't harping on it.
They didn't harp on the fact that Obama says, well, you're not a success yourself.
It's because of the government.
Can I just say one thing about Clint Eastwood?
The reason...
Here's what's crazy.
The minute someone goes up on stage these days or in front of an audience and does not use a teleprompter and therefore speaks kind of like you and I speak on the show, which sometimes...
He didn't even use notes!
The minute you are not slick and polished and using a teleprompter or even notes, you are now a rambling, bumbling idiot.
This is how crazy programmed we have become by the media.
That's what is...
And by the way, this is even for, you know, AM radio talk shows.
These guys are all reading off notes.
And they're using the same language over and over and over again so that they don't stumble and bumble through things.
But the minute you are speaking from the heart and off the cuff and you stutter or maybe say, hmm, oh my God, he went, hmm, he wasted valuable airtime.
Then you're a rambling, bumbling idiot.
And if you're 82, then you're...
Yeah, you're wasting valuable airtime, which you could have filled up with commercials.
Anyway, do you have...
I can give you the presidential election update, and then I think it looks like you have some clips that would probably fit into this that...
Maybe.
Might be interesting, so...
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the No Agenda campaign updates.
I'm doing my jingles on the fly here.
Here is the Democratic side.
Now wait, I'll do the Republican side first.
Man, we don't want to screw it up.
It's all like, Obama made it good.
And he's like, we took all your money in Obamacare.
All right, now the Democratic side.
And that is the No Agenda Political Updates.
You know, there's a clip I wanted to get and I didn't get it, which I can't figure out where it is.
But there was actually a...
It was actually a...
I'm trying to think where it was.
It may have even been from some fictional show.
But whatever it was, it's not only that the Republicans are going to let the rich not get taxed.
But now, apparently, they're going to lower the taxes on the rich and raise the taxes on the middle class.
Yes, it's great.
Where does this come from?
I don't know, man.
Well, here's where some of it comes from.
Some of the fiction out there is...
I want to get to right away, which is The Newsroom, your favorite show.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, hold on a second.
It's not my favorite show.
Smash is my favorite show.
The newsroom is a highly irritating...
It's highly irritating.
It's a bogus show.
It's meant to...
Because it's changing history, it's meant to give you the feeling that the news is great for some reason.
I mean, people do get confused by these things.
By the way, just not to turn this whole show into a shaggy dog story where we just keep going off the track.
Shaggy dog!
I did see the movie The Postman, which by the way, and I want to mention to anyone out there recommending films for us, or anything with some sort of a theme that might be no agenda-ish, this is the worst piece of crap.
I didn't want to, because I remember you.
I think we have to discuss on the show whether we should, whether it's possible to denite.
No!
You can't denite people.
That's not okay.
I'm just saying, it's...
No!
It's borderline in this game.
Well, he's not a knight that I remember called.
Hold on a second.
Hold on.
It is our job to verify the information that our producers hand us, and we can just say, hey, it's a boring piece of crap movie.
No need to go watch it.
Right.
We don't need to delist people for that.
What are you?
At MSNBC all of a sudden now?
Okay, here we go.
But there was one funny thing in there.
They apparently had rewritten the post office oath of allegiance where not for the gloom of night, hail and rain, you know, this thing, I guess.
In the newsroom?
In the newsroom or in the postman?
Postman.
Postman.
Oh, like neither rain nor sleet nor snow.
Sleet nor dark of night will keep us from our plight or flight.
Right.
Whatever the hell it is.
Yeah.
So they have the new one, which is quite funny.
The Oath and the Postman?
Yeah, the Oath and the Postman.
Neither snow nor rain nor gloom of night.
Neither snow nor rain nor gloom of night.
Through bandits hail through fire fight.
Through bandits hail through fire fight.
Through flood and plague we cannot fail.
Through flood and plague we cannot fail.
No wholeness trash will stop the mail.
No wholeness trash will stop the mail.
We're all now U.S. postal carriers.
Did he say no homeless trash will stop the mail?
Is that what he said?
Yeah.
No homeless trash will stop the mail?
That's crazy.
Yeah, I've been thinking about this war on...
No homeless trash.
It was hilarious.
I'm so happy I didn't watch that.
I've been thinking about that war on mail that you've been harping on about how Congress is trying to take them down.
And you know what I keep reading about?
I keep reading about their testing sending vaccines through the mail.
Because, of course, you know, we'll have some kind of bio-terror alert or whatever, and they're doing these tests.
Could it have something to do with that somehow?
Well, I don't know.
That's a stretch.
I mean, I suppose.
Maybe.
I don't know.
Because, you know, because, of course, you would.
I don't see it.
Hmm.
I don't know.
I just...
I have like these intuitions.
I'm like, this may be related.
May be related somehow.
I don't know.
Do we want to talk about the black-white thing?
Because this is...
Well, I was going to do the newsroom clips first.
All right, do the newsroom.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Yeah, go ahead.
Okay, so first of all, we have this...
First, there's...
It's a kind of weird propaganda where you ridicule somebody and you claim to be on one side, but you're really not.
And it's a very strange mechanism.
And then you present...
It's not...
It's not false information.
It's just based on a fallacy.
I find it to be extremely annoying when I run into it.
And this is a good example.
This is newsroom voter fraud.
This is where the anchor guy, who's the head character in the story, is giving his little pitch at the end.
Yes.
Will.
Me too.
Because voter fraud is such a huge problem that during a five-year period under the Bush administration, when 196 million votes were cast, the number of cases of voter fraud reached 86.
Not 86,000.
86.
Here's what that number looks like as a percentage of votes cast.
Four one-hundred-thousandths of a percent.
This would be called a solution without a problem, but it's not.
It's just a solution to a different problem.
Republicans have a hard time getting certain people to vote for them, so life would be a lot easier if certain people just weren't allowed to vote at all.
I'm ashamed to say that 32 of the 33 voter ID laws were proposed by Republican legislators and passed by Republican-controlled state houses and signed into law by Republican governors.
I am not, however, ashamed to say that I am a Republican.
And that brings us to tonight's second story.
Alright, so what's your point?
So anyway, the point is that this is presented so everyone goes, oh yeah, that's it, it's a bunch of bull crap because there's only 85 cases.
This is like, yeah, there's only 85 cases that could ever be taken to a trial situation.
It's almost impossible.
That's the reason you need ID in some situations.
It's almost impossible to ever do a voter fraud case.
This is like saying, why do we have jaywalking laws?
There was only three people in the last five years.
That we're arrested for jaywalking in Berkeley, so it can't be a problem.
Well, if you've ever been in Berkeley, everybody jaywalks all the time.
But so using this is kind of like a very twisted propagandistic technique that I always find extremely annoying, and it just really tells you that you're watching something that is pure propaganda.
And so now to make that even more...
You do understand that it's an HBO fictional story, right?
This newsroom.
Yeah, I know, but fiction, yeah, well, that's how you get your information through.
Because all this information here is supposed to be true, right?
Yes, of course.
It's fact.
Fact!
So now play news.
Now, this is the one, this is kind of the rundown room where everybody in most news organizations, they all get together, you know, the editors, typically.
Mm-hmm.
Or the section editors, whoever they are, they get together in a room, they start banding about kind of important stuff.
Yeah, that we're going to put in the show, in the rundown.
Yeah, and so there's a time sequence problem with this particular show.
They mix old five-year-old stories that are supposed to be happening today.
John, are you trying to point out that this is mind control?
Is that what you're trying to say?
Yeah, exactly.
Okay, all right.
Austerity riots in London and the FAA shutdown.
Mitch McConnell said the debt deal was a hostage worth taking.
As of about 10 minutes ago, the Dow's down below 12,000.
There's a new investigation into why the Interior Department hasn't collected billions in oil royalties.
Robert Bork is not a Romney advisor.
We'll get this all sorted out, but let me ask, is anybody here an expert on Sex and the City?
The TV show or just the TV show?
Mother of Moses.
Listen, she goes out of her way to take an interest in my interest, and I want to do the same, and she...
I know what she loves.
I need a crash course.
Yeah, of course I saw this episode and I had my thoughts about it.
I'd love to hear yours.
Did you have any thoughts about this sequence?
I mean, I didn't watch the whole episode because I can't.
It's almost impossible to watch this show.
Really?
Yeah.
I got the biggest kick out of the austerity riots in London.
Let's talk about that.
Of course, I never did.
And then it was Judge Bork, who I think was 90 or something, and he's advising Romney.
This is a callback.
Slam item that you would only use for, I don't know, old voters.
I'm not absolutely sure who would remember Judge Bork, but okay.
There's that.
And then, you know, they're not paying their royalties and they're not getting their...
I mean, every one of these items was part of...
Not to harp on this, but it was all liberal agenda stuff.
I mean, I find this show extremely destructive.
Okay.
That's all I get to say.
Yeah, I mean, yes.
So do you want to warn people?
Should they watch The Postman instead?
No, no, they should not watch television at all.
That's what I've been trying to say.
Oh, that's what you're trying to say.
It can't happen here.
Yeah, yeah.
Hold on, where's my...
Even though my eyesight has improved, I still can't find certain things that I'm looking for.
I can't see anything.
My eyesight is so great, now I can't see.
I was going to play Turn Off Your Television, but I don't know where that jingle went.
This pisses me off.
Someone's been touching my plank.
What?
Someone's been touching my board.
Why can't I find it?
By the way, in that last clip, did you notice how they used that subtle ringing, ringing, ringing sound to get your attention?
Because every time you hear that, your whole system kind of tenses up and you're very receptive to propaganda.
Well, I think...
We should go back to doing that when we do our donation segment.
The telephone ringing?
Well, what I found very interesting is, so they throw this entire, like in 10 seconds, all these things that are all messed up, messed up, messed up, and then they hit you with Sex and the City.
Your mind goes, oh yeah, of course I know what's going on with Sex and the City.
I can explain that immediately.
So I think that that's where all of that propaganda flows into your brain.
Usually they do it the other way around.
Is they set you up with something and then they gently shove it in.
No, I think this is better.
I think it's much better.
When I heard this, when I saw it, because I watched the episode, I was like, wow, that's pretty good.
We should try and do that ourselves.
We should.
Yeah.
How come somebody didn't say, hey, just look it up in the Wikipedia, you bonehead.
Yeah, go to the Book of Knowledge, Justin.
The Book of Knowledge.
Something else happened that, of course, we've been talking about for months that this would be a big part of the campaign, and this is the use of race and what people are now calling code words.
We've been tracking this, and it's really gotten out of hand, and it seems that...
Now MSNBC has decided to become an opinion channel instead of a news channel, which is okay because everyone's on the same page.
The only people who are trying to do news is CNN, and of course they suck.
No one's watching because it's not interesting to the hypnotized populace.
But what happened during the, and I didn't watch it, I've only looked at certain clips and I was flipping back and forth to see what MSNBC was doing.
I think that this exchange between Martin Bashir on MSNBC and, what's his name, is his name O'Donnell, Chris O'Donnell?
Yeah, is it Chris?
Lawrence?
Lawrence.
Pete.
Larry.
Larry O'Donnell.
Where he...
Well, just listen to this, and then we'll talk about all the other code words that you can no longer use.
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell's forthcoming oration.
Can I quote something from you?
Please.
For four years, Barack Obama has been running from the nation's problems.
He hasn't been working to earn re-election.
He's been working to earn a spot on the PGA Tour.
How about that?
Well, we know exactly what he's trying to do there.
He's trying to elide Tiger Woods and surely, you know, the lifestyle of Tiger Woods with Barack Obama.
Obviously, nothing could be further from the truth.
They find every way they possibly can to make it.
Lawrence, don't you think that what he's really trying to do is to suggest that the President is not paying attention to the central issues that come with the responsibility he has?
Is he really?
Mitch McConnell really making a connection with Tiger Woods, who of course has become infamous for chasing various cocktail waitresses around Las Vegas and so on?
Martin, there are many, many, many rhetorical choices you can make at any point in any speech to make whatever point you want to make.
Indeed.
If he wanted to make the point you just suggested, and I think he does want to make that point.
They had a menu of a minimum of ten different kinds of images that they could have raised.
And I promise you, the speechwriters went through rejecting three or four before they landed on that one.
That's the one they want for a very deliberate reason.
These people reach for every single possible racial double entendre they can possibly find.
Okay, now before we continue with that, this is fascinating to me.
Because we've joked about the president playing golf.
And, you know, because he plays a lot of golf.
I think he's played more golf than anybody in that office.
So to say that he was, you know, trying to get a spot on the PGA Tour, that is then immediately translated.
And O'Donnell keeps on going, by the way, that he knows for a fact...
He knows for a fact that this is what they were doing.
We can play that in a moment.
But I just want to go down the list that I have here.
I think Michelle Malkin compiled this list of words you cannot use anymore because you will be deemed a racist.
Are you ready for this?
Hit it.
Okay.
I wish I had audio and video of all of these, but not enough time to find it all.
So, the word angry.
Now, this is, of course, we heard Toure, the hip-hop aficionado.
Right.
The word angry means angry black man.
Yes.
Aggressive.
Somehow.
Yes.
Aggressive black man.
Yeah.
Chicago.
Now, according to Chris Matthews, you cannot use...
Chicago means black man.
Yes.
Here it is.
The Obamas and their core team of astroturfers pay for play.
Schemers and power brokers hail from the Windy City.
This is simple geographic fact, says Michelle Malkin.
But in progressive of parlor, Chris Matthews' world, it is an insidious dog whistle.
The frothing cable TV host attacked Republicans this week who gave...
They'll have the gall to remind voters of Ruthless Chicago Way.
Chicago stands for, you know, wrong side of the tracks, right?
Does?
Poor people.
Yeah, here it is.
Matthews says, that sends the message, this guy's helping the poor people in the bad neighborhoods and screwing us in the burbs.
What?
Yes.
He's not helping any poor people whatsoever and everybody knows it.
I'm just, hey, look, I'm just going down the list.
Constitution.
Constitution.
So if you bring up the word constitution, that is also racist.
And this is who deconstructed this.
Juan Williams.
The language of GOP racial politics is heavy on euphemisms that allow the speaker to deny any responsibility for the racial content of his message.
References to a lack of respect for the Founding Fathers and the Constitution also make certain ears perk up by demonizing anyone supposedly threatening core old-fashioned American values, like, I don't know, slave ownership.
So you can't talk about Founding Fathers or Constitution because it is racist.
Experienced is another code word that you can't use.
Because, let me see.
What?
Yeah, I'm just reading off the list here.
Can't use that word.
Nope.
Is fried chicken on that list?
Well, no, but you know what is on the list?
Watermelon, maybe?
Oh, God.
Those are the old classics.
Food stamp president.
You can't say food stamp president.
Okay.
Because it's pithy and shorthanded for, you know, racist.
I guess.
Because apparently it's only black people on food stamps.
Apparently.
That's what it sounds like.
Apparently.
Apparently.
Even though, by the way, it's probably not true.
I'd like to see a rundown on that.
Oh no, it's not true.
There's more white people on food stamps.
Because they've screwed the black people out of food stamps.
Most of the black males in this country have gone through a stint in prison.
And once that happens, you can't get food stamps anymore.
Did you know that?
Oh yeah.
So this is bogus.
Now listen to the rest of O'Donnell.
And what's being done about that problem?
What is Obama or anybody else doing about that?
Nothing.
Nothing.
No, this is just about dividing the country.
Dividing us into, you know, it was red and blue, now it's white and black.
Even the president, by the way, If we're going to play it that way, let's just deconstruct everything.
From now on, I'm going to be...
You can't say, hold down the fort.
This is now racist against Indians.
Rule of thumb is racist against women because the rule of thumb stems from...
Apparently you're allowed to beat your woman as long as the bruise was not bigger than a man's thumb.
That's where rule of thumb comes from.
Did you know this?
Yeah, I did, actually.
We talked about it on the show before.
Oh, I don't remember that.
I would have remembered that.
Beyond a shadow of a...
Yeah, I would have remembered.
That's...
You were making...
It was actually something like that was your punchline.
Yeah.
Well, there you go.
I'm boring.
Let's listen to...
Everything anyone says now, I'm going to just call them out as being a racist because it's so easy to do.
In every one of these speeches.
You really believe that about Mitch McConnell?
Look...
It is impossible.
I know these people are insensitive.
I know these speechwriters are insensitive.
These people.
He keeps saying these people.
These people.
That sounds like racism to me.
I know the way they work.
They do not have the same sensitivity level that other speechwriters do.
But when you get to the Tiger Woods reference, there were people in the speechwriter...
Did he say Tiger Woods in that thing?
I thought he just said PGA. No, no.
Tiger Woods is one guy.
Tiger Woods is completely...
Is Tiger Woods equal to PGA? Is that what he's calling?
Yes, of course.
I know this without a shadow of a doubt.
Shadow of a doubt.
That sounds racist to me, John.
In fact...
Shadow of a doubt sounds racist.
Well, hold on.
Let me deconstruct.
This guy is racist because...
Shadow of a doubt, first used in recent popular culture in 1960 in To Kill a Mockingbird, Atticus Finch states...
The law says reasonable doubt, but I think a defendant's entitled to the shadow of a doubt.
Of course, he was defending a black man.
So this is a racist comment.
And he knows it.
And he knows it.
Fact.
Fact.
We said, wait a minute, do we really want to go there?
Do we really want to go to Tiger Woods?
And the vote in the room was, yes, we do.
And Mitch McConnell agreed to do it.
Okay, so the president, our own president, is now also being racist, John.
Have you noticed this?
He was in Iowa just yesterday, and he rolls out the race card like nobody else is.
What they offered over those three days was, more often than not, an agenda that was better suited for the last century.
It was a rerun.
We'd seen it before.
You might as well have watched it on a black and white TV. Ha ha!
Ha ha!
Racist!
By the way, I think that actually was put in there to be racist.
Okay, McLary.
This is crazy, people.
This is crazy.
And please don't fall for it.
I see people falling for this.
And did I not say that...
I had to mention to everybody, but he was elected by a white majority.
Please don't try to make sense.
Did you...
Did we discuss this on the show where I said, yeah, I think we did on Thursday, where I said, did the Republican National Committee, did they buy the hashtag on tweet, on Twitter, on the thing, the feeds, the whatevers?
I think one of them was promoted.
I saw a promotion button next to it.
It turns out it's true.
They actually bought it.
And so the trending, but it was trending.
Now the trending topics, the trending hashtags are not really trending.
They're purchased.
You don't know if trending is bought or not.
All I know is every once in a while I look at the trending thing and then there's something interesting trending.
I think we did this on the show recently where there was something interesting trending that was kind of a little sketchy and it disappeared just instantly.
Of course, yeah.
But now they're actually saying...
Like somebody's watching.
Yeah.
Well, they purchased it.
So I got a couple of things from the Obama speech.
Oh, the one in Iowa?
Yeah.
You didn't catch that one, though.
The pure racist comment.
You know, that's the thing about racism.
It creeps in without you knowing it.
I didn't notice that one.
You're right.
You got me.
You know, I think it's racist that you didn't catch the racism.
Well, it's probably racist of you to point that out.
Well, yes, I am.
I'm sorry.
I won't do it anymore.
I have a bunch of clips from this speech.
This is actually, you know, this is his warm-up speech.
You know, it's right after the other convention.
He's checking out the audience.
He's yelling and screaming.
We might as well start with the end of it.
This is the beta test is what this is.
Yeah, as we would call it.
Yeah, exactly.
The beta test.
All right.
Let's...
Actually, let me save the end for last.
Try this one.
He...
Try the Obama speech healthcare a little bit.
It's very short, and I just wanted to ask you a question.
Just ask Adam.
Oh, really?
Well, good.
It's up to you whether we go back to a healthcare system that let insurance companies decide who to cover and when, or whether we keep moving forward with the new healthcare law that's already cutting costs and covering more people and saving lives.
All right, ask Adam.
Okay, so now this thing is saving lives and covering more people.
I thought it didn't even go into play until 2014.
How can it be doing anything, really?
What's your question?
What's he talking about?
Apparently, you can have your child on your insurance, which I already had.
I don't see how that was a big deal.
That, I guess, is saving lives.
I was just confused, because he makes it sound as though this thing is in full play, and it's not.
No, it doesn't really start until 2014.
He's a liar.
He's a liar.
Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho.
That's racist, man.
You can't call a black man a liar.
So here's the one that really, this is a combination of two clips.
This one here, this one is just hilarious, and you know he was, you know, Obama...
Maybe he doesn't have much of a backbone, but you have to remember, he taught English as a grad student.
And so he does this Gotta Register.
Go play gottaregister.com and tell me you didn't crack up when you heard this.
And I need your help.
First and foremost...
I need you to go to gottaregister.com to make sure that you are registered to vote.
This is gotta register.
I'm sorry, any English teachers who are in the room, this is not got to, it is gotta.
G-O-T-T-A register.com.
Wow.
And once you're registered, then you gotta go to gottavote.com.
No.
It's true.
Wait, gottaregister.com is actually the website.
Yeah.
Who makes this up?
Some idiot.
And gottavote.com is actually also a real website.
Yes.
But is this run by the Democrats?
Yeah.
Obama Biden.
But this is Ebonics.
That's racist, what you just said.
I know it's racist, what I said, but gottaregister?
G-O-T-T-A. Is that official English?
You gots to do that.
I think it should be gots.
That would be better.
Yeah, I think it's G-O-T-S-T-A. Gots to register.
You gots to register.com, bro.
Gots to.
So this brings us to a couple of points about the dumbing down of this office and the dumbing down of Obama.
This is crazy.
He does...
I can't believe this is actually happening.
Yeah.
Gotta.
You gotta believe.
No, it should be G-O-T. Would someone please register GotstaRegister.com because that's...
GotstaRegister.
He doesn't even have this pulse on the people.
He's not really an Ebonics expert.
No, but this is not Ebonics.
This is how people on the street...
You gotsta do that, man.
There's an S in there.
It's not G-O-T-T-A. It's G-O-T-S. It always says gotta.
Gotta, gotta, gotta.
Gotsta.
Gotta, gotta, gotta.
I think it's from a disco song.
This is crazy.
So play the clip, Money Well and Good, so I can conclude on something here.
Yes, please.
And soon you'll get a chance to choose a path that will actually lead to a better future.
But over the next two months, the other side will spend more money than we have ever seen on ads that basically tell you the same thing they told you at the convention.
The economy's not doing good, and it's Obama's fault.
It's not doing well.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Stop.
This whole collection of things that you've got going on here, John?
Without a doubt.
Clip of the day.
Now, wouldn't it be funny if the ads came out and they actually said that?
Economy not doing good.
Obama's fault.
It's not doing good.
You've got to vote.
You've got to vote.
Miss Mickey is peeing her pants right now because her English, I think, is outstanding.
But she always wants me to correct her on things.
And I even screw this one up.
You correct me on the good and well.
It's a Dutch thing, actually, the reason why she does it.
But she's cracking up now.
I'm sure she heard the president say it incorrectly.
But it fits with gotsta.
You gotsta do good, boy.
You gotsta do well.
It still keeps harking back on the 70s disco sound.
It's crazy.
So here's one that you can get.
Tell me you won't hear the magic number.
Obama's speech in Iowa mentions.
Now's not the time to refight the battles of the past four years.
Now's the time to move forward.
Forward!
This November, you get to decide the future of this war in Afghanistan.
You gots to decide.
Governor Romney had nothing to say about Afghanistan last week.
Let alone offer a plan for the 33,000 troops who will have come home from the war by the end of this month.
33, that's the magic number.
Woo-hoo!
We got it!
It's the magic number.
We gotta do more?
Is there more to the clip?
I think you got the point of it.
I just wondered, again, 33, which is one of our, we track, what is he implying?
I have no idea.
This is great.
This is great.
I mean, I thought I had the clincher there with the black and white TV. Now, here's the final thing that is interesting.
This is Obama finishing the speech by yelling, essentially yelling at the audience.
He's gone berserk.
This is the exhorting Iowa crowd talk.
And here's what you have to listen for.
He does a very interesting switcheroo on the, we got to do this, we're going to do that, we're going to do that.
Then it goes, me, me, me, me, me, me, me.
You know, besides just vote for me, it was me, I got to do this.
It all suddenly becomes about him.
It's very interesting because he usually stayed with the groupthink thing and kept it to the end.
Do you think he lost it or do you think this is part of the plan?
I really don't know.
This is, like I said, this is a dry run of what he's going to be rolling out.
This is probably the template for all the speeches we'll be hearing.
And as we clip further along, all we're going to be able to do, the two of us, is find the modifications.
And in so doing, and we only got 60 days to do this, find the modifications and then we can see what's trending, what's truly trending and so far as which direction they're going to go because they're going to find a weak spot in the mentality of the public.
They don't have to worry about that with these crowds, which are just set up to cheer and scream.
They look like a Betty Boop audience.
What is this reference, a Betty Boop audience?
It's a reference of a bunch of people clapping like crazy and there are a bunch of animals in the audience.
You have to explain this reference.
People go rent a Betty Boop movie and there's always an audience involved and they're always just going crazy.
It's amazing.
Anyway.
We've got more young people to send to college.
We've got more good teachers to hire, and we've got more good schools to build.
We've got more troops we've got to bring home.
We've got more veterans we've got to take care of.
We've got more doors of opportunity to open to every single American who's willing to work hard and work through them.
We've come too far to turn back now.
That's why I'm asking for a second term, Iowa.
And if you're willing to stand with me, and join with me, and knock on some doors with me, and make some phone calls with me, and if you're willing to vote for me in November, we will win Polk County again.
We will win Iowa again.
We will win this election.
We will finish what we started.
And we will remind the world just why it is that the United States of America is the greatest nation on earth.
God bless you.
And God bless the United States of America.
So the question is, is he the Mexican wrestler with the mask on, or is that the other guy?
That's a good one, yeah.
I'm not quite sure.
He's like WWE. I'm not quite sure which one he is.
All right, well, this has been...
That's enough.
Anyway, that's my little rundown against him with Obama.
Next week, of course, we have to endure the Democrats' convention, which starts on Tuesday.
Did you see the sand sculpture they're building of him?
The giant sand sculpture?
No, I didn't.
Let me check that out.
It's frightening.
It doesn't even look like him, really.
But the metaphor of a sculpture of Obama being built out of sand is a little freakish.
I mean, someone should have caught that one.
Yeah, I don't understand how they...
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
Scary, right?
It's terrible.
It doesn't look anything like him.
It looks like...
What does it look like?
It looks like a psycho.
Yeah.
Yeah, people should have to go.
It's Obama Sand Sculpture, and then there'll be plenty of images.
I think it's gottasandsculpture.com.
Gotta.
Gotta.
I'm telling you it's Gotta.
It's not...
How about...
We said Gotta Axe.
Oh, my God.
This is the worst thing ever.
I know.
It's scary, right?
It's a little weird.
Weird.
They should take it out.
Weird.
Yeah, I think they should, too.
Right now.
So, actually, I do have just two things that are ancillary that might be interesting.
One is, of course, Ron Paul got boned.
We know that.
You know, this still is galling.
Well, here's Doug Weed.
What are they thinking?
What difference does it make?
Well, let me play this clip from Doug Weed, senior advisor at WEAD, to the Paul campaign.
We've discussed many times on the show and he's going to explain why they what the strategic mistake was And how the Ron Paul campaign buckled to threats with the numbers.
I definitely agree.
But do you think that there's been, from the campaign side, do you feel that there's been any kind of disconnect with the grassroots?
Yeah, there has been a disconnect.
And the biggest disconnect was over our inability to and our decision not to attack Mitt Romney going into Michigan.
That's the basis of all of it.
And I favored us going after Mitt Romney.
I wanted to go after him like crazy.
The argument against going after Mitt Romney was that he had a tremendous amount And he threatened to drop an A-bomb on us.
He threatened to destroy forever the name Ron Paul by producing commercials and advertising that would destroy his name and reputation.
So I found that very interesting, that this is being put out there, because I don't believe it.
I don't believe this to be true.
Ron Paul has nothing to lose.
It sounds dubious.
He has nothing to lose.
He has never buckled under any type of pressure and he's stepping out of politics.
What were they going to say?
Like, he eats babies?
I mean, how bad can it really be?
What can you do in a television commercial?
Unless, of course, what Doug Weed is actually saying is they were going to destroy Rand Paul's name.
Maybe that's what he meant.
But I found it to be very dubious as well, and kind of like we call it a Wiedergutmacher in Gitmo Nation Deutschland.
Like, eat on this, because it'll taste good, and it takes away the sourness of whatever pill you've just eaten.
So I found that to be, yeah, dubious is the right word.
Well, it's also a possibility.
I mean, Weed is essentially a, he works for a living as a political advisor.
Yeah, he's got ties to big religious money.
And it's possible that he was snubbed.
Oh, no, I'm pretty sure this happened.
I'm pretty sure he was snubbed early on.
Oh, he tried to bop over you, you mean, somehow?
Yeah.
And so he decides to drop this little bullcrap bomb to kind of besmirch Romney and make him look like a smear artist.
Yeah, that's possible.
That's possible.
Which, you know, he may or may not be, but it's like, you know, this is nothing, this is not kosher, what he did.
So do you want to hear...
You know Peter Schiff?
He's a...
I guess he's a...
Yeah, tomorrow's...
Depression starts tomorrow.
Peter Schiff, that guy.
Yeah, do you want to hear him?
I've always admired listening to him.
What do you think of him?
He's always right, by the way.
He's like, you know, it reminds me of what...
The little short guy that's over at Berkeley is a professor of economics.
He was the labor secretary under Clinton.
Reich?
Reich said once that...
He came out to give a speech.
When he gives a speech, he says, yes, on June 2nd, I predicted that by November there will be a crash of the housing market.
And he has the documentation.
He has a clip of himself kind of saying the same.
He says, and the key is that I've been doing this for the last 30 years.
You just keep saying it.
You just keep saying it over different scenarios, and then you pull out the gem.
And that, to me, is Peter Schiff.
Did you just blow away the whole secret to our Red Book predictions?
Did you just take away my entire strategy?
Well, go play.
We'll see.
Possible.
Let's go back to Governor Romney.
His plan is...
By the way, this English douche.
Who is he?
This blowhard.
Yeah, that guy.
I don't like him.
Tax reform, lower tax rates, fewer deductions, and long-term entitlement reform.
Now, isn't that a plan, at least, which would surely work over the long term if implemented?
No?
Have we gone too far?
No.
No, he's talking about reform, not cuts.
They're committed to increasing Social Security and increasing Medicare.
That's not reform.
And they're also saying that nobody over the age of 55 is going to lose a nickel.
That is impossible.
That's going to bankrupt the country.
But they're talking about using market forces to reduce the cost of Medicare outlays and reduce the cost long-term of Social Security.
No, but that's not going to work.
What's going to reduce the cost is cutting the benefits.
The government has over-promised.
These are gigantic Ponzi schemes.
They do not work.
Meanwhile, the only reason the economy hasn't collapsed is because the interest rates are artificially low.
Is that true, John?
Is that true?
Well, you can make the argument, but I think it's only part of the problem.
Yeah, but they have to be this law, otherwise they wouldn't have any activity at all.
Right, but what he's saying is that they are being kept low, which is what the Federal Reserve does, and if they weren't, then the economy would collapse.
Is that true?
If the interest rates were raised, would the economy collapse?
Yeah.
Is what the real question is?
Probably.
The Fed cannot keep interest rates low indefinitely.
And when interest rates go up, the party is over.
And then we're not going to have, you know, we're not going to have the choice anymore.
We're going to have to finally deal with these problems or destroy our currency.
And that is going to be a real economic crisis that will make 2008 look like a walk in the park.
Give me a time frame, Peter.
When does the crunch hit us?
It's going to happen in the next administration.
I hope it happens early enough that at least...
This is why we need to be in.
No one wants this next four years.
I mean, I think you want to...
And I agree on this.
You say 2013, I think, is your cycle prediction, correct?
That's the cycle of 2013.
But the cycle has actually moved forward about six months, and it's never right on the money.
I mean, ideally, it would take place in October of 2013.
Ideally for who?
Ideally for...
For your investments?
Hey, do you have an extra dollar?
I predicted this.
Ideally for what?
I can write HTML for food.
Explain your ideally comment.
Do you have some investments that I'm unaware of?
What is going on?
Ideally for the cycle of the cyclists out there.
They're all...
Cycle fans, not cyclists.
Yeah, exactly.
But it's been moved up.
So the possibility exists that the whole thing can collapse this October.
This October?
Yeah, I mean, it's possible because the general economic collapse began in 2008.
What happens to us?
Late in 2008, which it should have happened in late 2009, so it's up a year.
Hey, hey, hey, what happens?
So let's say it happens in October, which of course is before the world ends, so I'm really concerned.
Yeah, where there's a double whammy.
Yeah, 2013, I don't care.
We're all going to be dead.
But, you know, I still have at least two months to go if it hits in October.
What happened to our show?
Was that it?
Is it junk?
Will the collapse include...
Is it junk?
No, we should actually get more listeners.
If it actually happens in this October, which is a possibility because of the shift, I think that more people would want to listen to it.
More listeners, less alms.
Well, probably alms would be, yeah, probably a problematic.
Certainly we have an international audience, and we do have some people that are well-heeled, and we don't have, not everybody.
I mean, it's already pretty bad.
I mean, we have, depending on what real numbers you look at, unemployment, 20% plus, possibly up as high as 25.
And world unemployment, extremely high, especially in Europe.
Yeah.
And veteran unemployment, through the roof, no matter what Obama says, is outrageously bad.
Yeah.
So, I mean, you know, it can't get much worse.
But, in fact, it can.
Yeah.
And we're all waiting for it because then we can say you correctly predicted it.
That will be awesome.
All right, let's thank our producers, man.
We are late on the producer thankage.
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Came up with $1,010.05.
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And his only comment is ring size 12.5.
Well, we will take care of that, Sir Robert, and we'll be knighting you later on.
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Now to something extremely important.
All that other stuff was not as important.
Because we have been tracking, if you've been looking at the show notes, which, by the way, is also a part of the entire package that we deliver to you.
You can always find the show notes at nashownotes.com.
But you can always find the most recent show notes at the episode number.nashownotes.com.
So 440.nashownotes.com would be the one you're looking for.
We have been looking out for a trend called, in the show notes, the War on Vets.
And we don't mean veterinarians, but we mean veterans of the United States Armed Services.
And it's becoming a little annoying to see this propagating where, now this goes back to the MIAC memo, which we discussed on the show, which came out a couple years ago, where essentially the lone wolf belligerent terrorists in the United States would be people who like Ron Paul, people who carry around the Constitution, and veterans returning from foreign war because apparently they're all nuts and they're just going to want to kill you with their killing machine skills.
Does that sum it up, John, kind of?
Yeah, pretty much.
Okay.
So every single mass shooting that we have in some way is related to a veteran Marine, except, of course, it's not entirely true because Colorado was not a vet and the Empire State Building.
And New York City was all cops shooting up the place.
Yeah, exactly.
So now we have New Jersey, not that far from where I used to live for many years.
My daughter was born at a path mark.
Yeah.
I don't know why you do that.
But at a Pathmark store, which was, you know, you had two supermarkets in New Jersey.
You've got Kings and you've got Pathmark.
And Pathmark is just crap.
You know, you don't really want to be going to Pathmark.
But they are open in the middle of the night.
So here is, it was crazy.
Crazy what went down and how the media is portraying this.
So first, let's get the story.
Former U.S. Marine turned supermarket worker shot dead two colleagues on Friday in New Jersey before killing himself.
Now, he was a Marine who did not even go anywhere.
He was not deployed.
Very young, a young boy, 23 years old.
So literally just a young'un.
As far as I understand, he was not deployed.
But you have to lead this story off by saying, Former vet turned supermarket worker kiddo.
Kills everybody!
The 23-year-old man returned to the grocery store after his shift armed with a handgun and an AK-47 rifle from which he fired at least 16 rounds.
Police are investigating the motive.
Now, again with the AK. So, this is...
It's getting a little bit annoying how these guns and ammo are being portrayed and the focus on automatic weapons.
And of course, when you say, and I've been corrected, apparently an AK-47, you can purchase them that are disabled and they only are single shot but automatic.
So they're not like a machine gun.
They don't fire in succession, which is, of course, easily modified.
But it's changed from assault rifle.
This is a very important change.
Assault rifle to AK-47, which is not standard issue of any marine outfit in American services that I know of.
Listen to the prosecutor.
So they roll out the prosecutor, not the police chief, the prosecutor in New Jersey, to do the press conference to talk about this unfortunate, horrible occurrence.
So it arrived, an entry was made.
When entry was made, the two bodies were found of the innocent victims as well as of the shooter.
I can confirm that there were two weapons that were found.
One was an AK-47, and there were multiple magazines that were found in the store, and there was also a handgun.
Now, why does he specify an AK-47, but it's not...
This is new to me, because normally they'll say, a Glock...
You know, some kind of...
But he just says a handgun.
Could be a revolver.
We don't know if it's an automatic weapon.
This is the first thing.
I'm like, whoa, that's not typical in a press statement.
But you're asking why they are very specific about one gun and not the other.
Yeah, yeah.
They're always very specific.
This is getting fishier.
Yeah, you're right.
Now that you mention this AK-47 meme is a little out of control.
Oh, it gets better.
There were no shots that were fired by the police as the incident was over when the shooter shot himself.
Okay, so...
So there were no shots fired when the shooter shot himself, but apparently the guy was already dead when the cops came, so who knows all this?
This is all very sketchy, but listen to what's happening here.
The scene is being processed, the family is being notified, the investigation is underway, and I will release additional information later this afternoon, again, as it becomes available and after we've had an opportunity to speak with the victim's families.
Any idea of motive at this time?
As it relates to motive, that is being investigated.
As it relates to the background of the shooter, that is similarly being investigated.
I am aware of the fact that there is information that's already out there that he had a military background.
I cannot confirm that.
But then why do you have to mention it at all?
So all of a sudden it's just a military background.
He says, I can't confirm, I can't talk about it.
But yeah, we hear he's got a military background.
So let's just introduce that into the conversation.
His background, how he arrived, working in this store, is all information that I hopefully will provide to you later on after I can actually confirm it.
There are two windows that are blown out in front of the store.
Can you talk about how those two windows...
I'm not going to talk about any...
I'm sorry?
The windows that are shattered.
Was that by gunfire?
Yes, it was.
Now listen carefully.
Left the storm and apparently comes back with something not that we know of right now.
The gunman arrived when police arrived.
I'm sorry?
Was the gunman still alive when police arrived?
The gunman was dead when police arrived.
We heard the gunman was wearing body armor.
We hear the policeman, the gunman was wearing body armor.
He was wearing body armor.
I'm not going to confirm that until later on.
I'm not going to confirm that until later on.
What does that mean?
That means you will confirm it later on, or you're just not confirming it right now, or you can't confirm it.
I do not believe that they were specifically targeted.
I believe everybody in the store wasn't targeted.
Oh, wow!
So the guy's dead.
He believes?
He believes.
Based on what?
Just on the messaging that he's supposed to hand out about veterans being crazy killers.
Crazy, maniac, maniacal trained killers being reintroduced into our society.
Be very afraid.
And I'm going to tell you veterans that you have to be afraid because that's coming up.
The two guns that we found...
Now listen, now listen.
The two guns that we found...
Again, one is a shot.
One is a AK-47.
Oh, one was a shot, I mean an AK-47.
Interesting.
Freudian slip.
Why does he say shot AK-47?
The other's a handgun.
This is a handgun, just a handgun.
The victims are shot by the AK-47.
Okay.
So then the news, sorry, the opinion cable channels go out and interview the neighbor.
And it's incredible.
So now they have, of course, this is a psychological operation.
I call it MKUltra.
But you will hear this dumb kid who probably knows how to spell gottaregister.com.
Talking, he actually stumbles and mistakenly reveals that he has been programmed by the producer to talk about the AK-47.
He was a very quiet person.
Kept to himself and never left his house.
You just never know who's your next door neighbor.
We've seen him moving in the beginning of the summer, middle of summer-ish.
We've seen him moving one day.
That's the only time I've ever seen him.
It's not even like it's a regular handgun.
It's AK-47.
So, he's like, it's not a regular handgun.
It's an AK-47, which has nothing to do with a handgun.
But listen closely to where he stumbles.
That's a military weapon.
Like you said...
You never know what's going to happen.
Like I said...
Did you hear it?
Play it again.
Okay, hold on.
You'll love it.
A handgun.
It's AK-47.
That's a military weapon.
You never know what's going to happen.
Did you catch it?
He says, like you said, and then he corrects himself and says, like I said.
Do it again, I'm sorry.
He's talking to the producer.
AK-47.
That's a military weapon.
You never know what's going to happen.
Like I said, you could have bumped into him and pissed him off just like that.
He lives right next door, so that's insane.
Like you said, like I said.
A guy was hiding an AK-47 next door.
He was hiding an AK-47 next door.
He's not hiding.
You're allowed to have a non-automatic, non-machine gun AK-47.
You're not hiding anything.
You're not hiding anything.
So people are being mind-controlled.
It's not an American military weapon.
It is an Afghanistan, Russian.
It's the Russian gun.
It's the Kalashnikov it used to be called.
I don't know why.
We used to always call it a Kalashnikov, and then it became called the AK-47.
Because that sounds more westernized.
It does.
It sounds more westernized.
I've been looking at their page.
It actually was invented in 1945.
It's an old gun.
Half of them aren't even licensed correctly.
They're coming in and they're pouring in.
I would almost think that...
They're trying to smear the gun because it comes in from China, from everywhere.
Oh, that's possible.
India's making them, and it seems...
That's possible.
Sorry?
That's possible.
That is possible.
Yeah, it'd be like an American gun company.
I don't know of any American...
Maybe there are some, but I don't know that any of you have a license to make this gun.
We make the M16. It's a better gun.
Get that!
I like it.
It's bad.
What a shitty gun.
I've shot the AK-47 in Iraq.
And it's funny because you shoot a single shot and it's pretty accurate.
You put it on automatic and you fire it.
You miss.
You just miss everything.
It's impossible to hit anything.
But here's what is frightening.
And by the way, this is the first time we now have a black veteran going berserk.
So this was a black guy, not a white guy.
And I said, hey, where's all the black guys?
Are they only racial kooks?
No, no.
Now it's everybody.
Except, of course, if you're in some other service.
You don't hear French people doing this, British people doing this, Australia.
They're all in Afghanistan.
They're all over there.
They've been in Iraq with us.
They don't go home and shoot everybody up.
No, apparently that only happens to Americans.
They're trained killers.
What comes out...
The day after this.
A movie?
No, worse.
Executive Order.
Oh, damn it.
But this is a frightening one.
I always urge when you find these things.
This is a frightening one.
Executive Order.
Title of the Executive Order.
Improving access to mental health services for veterans, service members, and military families.
And I would like to read the...
Oh, they're going to open up gulags.
Oh, they're going to open up gulags.
Yes.
And so, you know, veterans in America should be, just move.
Just get out.
Just get out.
Because they're targeting you.
And it's not a small number either.
So, I just want to read the policy statement, number one.
This is from our president.
Since September 11, 2001.
Never before that, by the way.
More than two million service members have deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan.
Long deployments and intense combat conditions require optimal support for the emotional and mental health needs of our service members and their families.
They should have written it properly.
It should be long and repeated.
Yeah, and continuous.
Yeah, long, repeated, and continuous and unfair deployments.
No, that would be wrong.
So the need for mental health services will only increase in the coming years as the nation deals with the effects of more than a decade of conflict.
This is positioning every returning veteran as a freaking kook, which turns my stomach.
Reiterating and expanding upon the commitment outlined in the administration's 2011 report entitled Strengthening Our Military Families, we have an obligation to evaluate our progress and continue to build an integrated network of support capability of providing effective mental health services for veterans, we have an obligation to evaluate our progress and continue to build an integrated network Our public health approach must encompass the practices of disease prevention.
Disease.
Disease.
It's a disease which can be treated by drugs.
Please.
Drugs!
Within the healthcare systems of the Departments of Defense and Veterans Affairs and in local communities, our efforts must also focus on both outreach to veterans and their families and the provision of high quality mental health treatment to those in need.
Okay, so of course I've read this document for you, and there's always a fact sheet that is released.
That's what the press reads, the fact sheet.
And you can go read that.
It's in the show notes as well.
So what they're doing is they're building up.
They want to put a whole bunch of...
It starts off by, hey, we've got to put more people on the suicide prevention line.
Great.
Okay, so more people can answer more phone calls.
Then we have to have a detection mechanism within communities.
So, that is Section 3.
Enhance partnerships between the Department of Veteran Affairs and community providers.
So, there's going to be a see something, say something.
Okay?
It's not in here, but it will be that if you see a veteran doing something weird like, you know, talking to himself or a weird stare.
You know?
You gotta go say something.
Go and rat on him.
And here it comes.
This is the one that...
I'm so angry.
Section 5.
Improved Research and Development.
The lack of full understanding of the underlying mechanisms of post-traumatic stress disorder, PTSD, and other mental health conditions and traumatic brain injury.
Remember we talked about this colonel who was trying to, you know...
Take away the stigma of PTSD and TBI, but he wants to treat it with drugs.
This is what this is about.
So in order to improve the coordination of agency research into these conditions, reduce the number of affected men and women through better prevention, diagnosis, and treatment, the Department of Defense, Veterans Affairs, Health and Human Services, and Education, in coordination with the Office of Science Technology Policy, will establish a national research action plan.
Okay?
And...
Oh, God.
The Departments of Defense and Health and Human Services shall engage in a comprehensive, longitudinal mental study with an emphasis on PTSD-TBI. Military and Veterans Mental Health Interagency Task Force.
They will...
It's even hard for me to read it.
Agencies shall continue ongoing collaborative...
Efforts with an aim to enroll at least, you ready John?
100,000 service members by December 31st, 2012.
They're going to round them up.
100,000 veterans who may be kooky enough to kill!
This is a gulag.
100,000.
Am I reading this incorrectly?
Oh, by the way, this expert panel will consist of the Department of Education, Office of Management and Budget, Domestic Policy Council, the National Security Staff, the Office of Science and Technology Policy, and of course, the Office of National Drug Policy Control.
Oh, yes, because we're going to feed drugs to them.
Veterans, leave.
You do not want to be in this country.
They're going to round you up.
And I don't think I'm being alarmist about this.
Well, you know, the thing is, the veterans have always provided good guinea pigs for the government.
They make them take drugs they shouldn't be taking.
They test viruses or vaccines on them, anthrax ones, for example.
So maybe this is just a program to get, you know, if we're going to kind of institutionalize the process.
And round up the 100,000 vets and then drag them with all kinds of different things.
100,000 vets before December 12th, John?
That is just...
Of this year?
This year, 2012!
That's kind of rapid.
You think?
If you get a letter in the mail, I say ignore it.
Do not answer back.
What?
I'm saying if a vet gets a letter in the mail, they want them to come in.
Yeah, if they want to just have a chat, no, don't.
Not at this address.
No.
But this is...
Now, why would they be doing this?
So the way I see it, and of course, I see it conspiratorially.
I see it because we've seen the documents.
Vets are going to be a big problem.
Then we have all this...
You know, emphasis on, of course, if you look at the actual people walking around who have, you know, who are walking around in this country, we've got a lot of veterans.
You know, because we've been at war for 10 years, a lot of people are veterans.
So there's going to be a percentage of people who do things that are veterans.
Many have been abused by the military with ridiculous numbers of deployments and drugs.
All kinds of drugs, they feed them over there.
But now we're being made to be afraid of the military, and I see it as a plan.
And now it's like we're going to have community outreach to rat on them.
Oh, man, he's got the 500-yard stare.
I better call somebody.
You've got to take him in.
100,000 by the end of the year.
I think you made your point.
I'm looking for a little analysis from you.
I don't have any.
It just sounds like you may be right.
It's just like a roundup.
Okay.
We got to figure out which 100,000 they want to grab.
I don't know.
I have no idea.
You caught me so off guard.
I did not expect it to go in this direction.
So I'm flat-footed.
I can't help you.
All right.
Well, it saddens me.
Yeah, I can tell.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, to change gears a little bit, please.
I ran into a, there was a, I was watching Huckabee.
For some unknown reason.
And it was this guy who wrote this book, The Amateur.
Oh, this is another piece of propaganda.
Yes, it's a Republican propaganda.
Yeah, propaganda.
What happened to all the French stuff you watch?
I like that so much better.
Can you just say, I was watching Uka B. Anyway, well, this Edward Klein seems to be an interesting character, even though I don't know about the book.
But he has a couple of nice anecdotes, I thought.
And one of them is why Hillary is not the vice president, I thought was a good analysis.
And it's not the most entertaining thing you'll ever hear, but I think it makes a lot of sense.
We can play that clip.
Let me play it right now.
You also talked, not in the book, because this happened subsequent to the publishing of the book, and we'll talk about that in the next segment, but you mentioned that there was a meeting at the White House, Valerie Jarrett, Hillary Clinton, not a direct offer, but just sort of, you know, kicking the tires a little bit about the what if.
Right.
Joe Biden stepped aside, her being the VP. The White House is vehemently denied that there ever was such a conversation.
Tell us how we can be confident.
There may have been such a conversation.
Well, of course, you know, I spoke to somebody who spoke to Hillary about it, and Hillary relates to this source of mine that this lunch took place, a very pleasant lunch with Valerie Jarrett, who, as we know, is one of the three most important people in the White House after the President and the First Lady.
And though it was a policy lunch, The subject of Joe Biden came up, and although Valerie didn't really offer the job, because that's up to the president, a vice president, she certainly indicated that she wondered what Hillary felt about it.
And Hillary said flatly that she had absolutely no interest in running on that ticket, for the very simple reason that if It won, then she'd have to run in 2016 and defend the Obama record, which I don't think is going to be so great next time around, if he wins.
Or, if he lost, then she'd be smeared as a loser.
So she decided it was a lose-lose proposition for her, and she said, no thanks.
Yeah, so...
My analysis here, presuming that the world does not end in 2012, as crackpotty as I like to be, we're probably, unfortunately, going to have to live through four years of hell, is that this is all about the 2016 race, which will be Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush, in which case the same frickin' families who've been running the show for three generations will be back at it again.
This is just a blip on the radar.
This is just a blip on the radar, and there'll be more ass-reaming to have.
Because they win.
No matter who wins, they win.
It's either Clinton or Bush.
The family wins.
Well, you might as well play the clip, Hillary, I put 2015 here, which is funnier.
But play back.
There's more about this.
Where do you get this stuff?
Where do you get this stuff?
Well, you know, I wrote a book about Hillary several years ago and developed a number of sources close to the Hillary group, the inner circle.
And I've continued as a reporter to keep my contacts with these sources.
So they and I talk off the record virtually every day.
And I get this information about what Bill is up to.
And, you know, why is Hillary not going to be at the convention?
I ask that question.
Hillary is going to be in Vladivostok, Russia.
You can't get any further away from the convention than that.
Probably not.
That's probably about as far away.
So I ask why.
And I was told that, number one...
She wants to be above the fray, but more importantly, she doesn't want to be associated with this particular campaign because she personally believes privately that it may be going down in flames.
But typically, two departments don't get involved politically, the Department of State and Department of Defense.
That would be another logical reason that she would not be at the convention and playing a major political role.
And she's got her husband there, front and center.
Basically playing the role for her because I think Bill Clinton sees 2012, this year, not as the decisive campaign.
As far as he's concerned, 2016 is the decisive campaign when Hillary will be 69 years old, her last chance to run for president, and he's already starting to beat those drums for her in 2016.
It's too bad he'll be dead before she wins presidency.
She'll kill him.
Oh, that's always a possibility.
Oh, she'll kill him for sure.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, she can't have that baggage.
Okay, so the last little clip in this series is the upcoming, and I thought that was kind of interesting.
This is not really great, but it's interesting so we can keep up with Hillary because she is obviously going to, you know, clippity-clopping her way.
And by the way, I really, really, really hope that happens because then, you know, we'll have a show.
Yeah, we'll have a great show.
Yeah.
The upcoming Clinton speech, I thought this was kind of interesting, too.
Clinton is going to, I guess, be the headliner on Tuesday or something, and I think it's probably going to be worth watching because of what this guy says.
You really think so?
You think it's going to be something really interesting, really worth watching?
I think there will be some subtext in this speech that will be worth analyzing.
They're all racist!
And does he really believe Barack Obama is the better choice to lead the country?
The answer to that question in reverse order is no, he does not think he is.
He, in fact, has called Obama an incompetent, an amateur, among other things that are printable.
And I have been told by people inside the Clinton camp that Bill Clinton is furiously writing his speech right now for the convention in longhand.
And he's getting these phone calls from the Obama people.
What's in your speech?
What's in your speech?
And he's furious because he will not tell them.
So even President Obama has no idea what Bill Clinton is going to say when he stands up in front of that convention.
So Bill Clinton will be the Clint Eastwood at the Democratic National Convention.
That's right.
Exactly.
We won't know.
So, of course, Clinton won't say anything that will hurt or damage the party because he just is a good boy.
He's not going to do that.
But I'm telling you, there's going to be some subtext in it that's going to be interesting.
This year, a question for you, John, which we did in 2008.
Will we be doing shows after the presidential debates when we have these two wrestlers teaming off against each other?
What do you mean we'll be doing shows?
Like a special show?
Yeah, like specials, or are we just waiting?
The way we did it last...
I don't remember.
We did something special?
What?
Well, what we do is we...
I don't think we were on a two-show schedule at the time, but we just said, oh, let's just do a show right now.
We did it right after the debates.
Oh, I remember that.
Yeah, we did an ad-libbed show.
It was like, come on, kids, let's put on a Broadway musical!
It was like a Mickey Rooney.
Hey, good news, good news, good news!
Suzanne Barr...
You know who she is?
Of course.
You mean Roseanne Barr?
No.
Huh?
No.
Suzanne Barr.
Oh, no, I don't know who she is.
Well, you should, because...
No.
She is the lesbian chief of staff at ICE. Well, we don't know if she's a lesbian.
Oh, right, right, right.
The one that we've talked about her.
She's the one that's a masher.
She's a sex pervert.
Yeah.
Well, the one who's being, allegedly, John, the one who's being accused of being, of sexually harassing men and saying horrible things.
We've read the avidavits.
She has resigned.
She's resigned, which is, if you're going to do anything, if you're going to resign, this is the weekend to do it.
Because it's Labor Day weekend, everyone's off, no one gives a crap.
Good move.
Good move.
Very smart.
And she says, you know, although, of course, let me see if I can get the exact quote here.
Uh...
As in saying, you know, of course, you know, I defend...
The accusations are unfounded and without any merit.
But I don't want to...
But I quit.
Yeah, but I don't want to focus any attention on the Department of Homeland Security in this important time in our history.
It's a very important time that...
No, it's very important that we out this evil organization for what it really is.
It's just a bunch of crazy people.
You're going after veterans, you go after these people.
At the top.
At the top, at the top, at the top.
So yes, so she has resigned and feels that it's better for the department.
So this, of course, will go nowhere.
We'll never hear anything about it again, even though any form of sexual harassment or discrimination needs to be fought, not only when men do it.
And, of course, I guess for some reason when it's women in our government, they get a free pass.
Yeah, especially the creepier ones.
Yeah.
She was right at the top of that list.
We can't say she's anything but creepy.
I think we're allowed to have that opinion, that she's creepy.
Yeah, and she is creepy.
So, I just want to get one last political thing out of the way before I look at some, there's some international things that are going on that are interesting.
But I have a little discussion that's kind of unique with Mark Halperin, the writer on the Charlie Rose Show, talking about the pick of Paul Ryan.
I want to play this.
Really?
I don't have much patience.
I don't have much patience anymore, but I'll listen to it.
Well, just listen to this whole thing.
Who is Mark Halperin?
Who does he write for?
Newsweek or somebody.
I don't know.
He's just famous.
So famous that I don't know him.
Well, you can look him up on the Wikipedia.
Before he made the pick that Ryan would be a very bad pick politically.
After the first few days, I thought this is working out better than I thought it would.
And today?
Today, I think...
People have not talked much about is Ryan qualified to be president.
One of the reasons I thought it would be a bad pick is he's a young guy and a younger looking guy.
That has not been much of the debate.
If we get to the fall, he does well in his debate, and people say that was a smart pick, that was a good governing pick, a good pick for the right reasons, I think it could work out to be a net plus.
Did the Romney team see this as a roll of the dice?
That's a great question.
That's not a great question!
How can this guy stand up here and say something stupid?
It's not a great question.
Was it a roll of the dice?
How is that a great question in any dimension?
You set me up.
You got more?
No, that's it.
Okay.
John Cena, 4X pet peeve of the day.
I'm going to show myself old by donating to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on no agenda.
In the morning.
You set me up, man.
You set me up.
That was good.
That was good.
You got me.
We have a few people to thank.
Steve Bottoms, Reno, Nevada, $118.17 in the morning.
That's my donation, including a swazzle enough, plus 48.48 for Crackpot's birthday.
Please give our Constitution some karma and needs it badly.
Thank you, Steve and Reno.
Thank you very much.
You've got karma.
Thank you.
Appreciate it.
Kelby Koenig in Grover, Colorado.
Self-proclaimed future JCD here.
Why $114.11, you ask?
Why?
Because $48 is for Adam's upcoming birthday.
Best wishes, Adam.
And $66.11 is the same.
It kind of came up with a different total, but okay.
For a shot from the rain stick, as a farmer, we need rain.
All right.
Grover, Colorado.
You got the rain stick?
I sure do.
Hold on, he says.
Okay, currently we're setting records for the most dry and hot days, which blows.
Make it rain, Adam.
Don't hold back.
I'll start building an arc over the weekend in case it doesn't actually stop.
Also, John, wear white shoes all the time.
It's what's hip kids are wearing.
Yeah, hipsters.
Thanks and keep up the good work.
All right, so it's double six on the six.
Double six on the sticks is what it is.
6611.
Here it is!
One...
You've got to do three.
It's the magic number.
And three.
That's a good show.
All right.
Good luck in Grover, Colorado.
Jesse Wilson, Hobart, Indiana.
11111.
Please, Karma, please, for a speedy payment for a court case I just won so I can pass it on to the greatest podcast in the universe.
All right.
All right.
Good plan.
You've got Karma.
Onward, Tracy Pritchard, McCormick, South Carolina.
Please wish longtime donor Bob Crosby a special happy birthday with two shots to the head, the little girl's shut-up slave, and if you see something, say something, Karma.
Wow, okay.
Let's see if we can do it.
Shut up, slave!
Oh, I'm sorry.
That was just too much for me.
Let me try it again.
If you see something, see something.
You've got karma.
Somehow we've got to limit it.
There's only so much I can do.
Please, people, keep it to three max.
Yeah, three clips is a max.
It's just too much.
I mean, that's funny.
I think the idea was sound, but it just didn't work.
Richard Harriman, Lisbon, Maine, 10101.
Hello, it's finally time to become a donor, not a boner, although I've donated until now...
I've not donated until now and I've managed to hit my beautiful fiancé in the mouth.
In fact, she should be posting a donation today too, but mine is for more.
And she's not expecting me to beat her on this.
I win!
Yeah, it's got a great relationship.
You guys are great.
Can I get a two to the head?
D-douche and karma.
Yeah, of course.
Oh, sorry.
Well, he's kind of a douchebag.
He's hitting his Beyonce in the mouth.
Yes.
Joan Audifray in Morgantown, West Virginia.
Yeah, Motown.
Motown.
Motown.
I'm planning a birthday donation next week and honor my son Griffin, who turns 14 on September 6th.
Please put him on the birthday list for next Thursday.
Good luck on anyone remembering.
I didn't know that Adam's birthday was also looming.
I didn't want to look like a cheapskate, but I also have my damehood all budgeted out in order to qualify for my ring before the end of the year, so this 100 donation is split between Adam and Griffin.
48-48 for Adam, 51-52 for Griffin.
It's good because Griffin never listens to the show, so he'll never know that he got shorted.
He got gypped.
Thanks for making me look schizophrenic.
As I peruse the aisles of the grocery store and listen to the show, I'm either laughing out loud or arguing with you whilst I shop.
Yeah, you know, this is how you get picked up.
Yeah, you're going to be in one of the concentration camps.
You're walking around like...
Leave it in the car.
Anyway, great work and the best podcast in the universe.
And she can use a general karma shot.
You've got karma.
And $96 out of the blue from Sir Mark Dithon, our architect from Tokyo, who is his partner.
And he also sent it.
Dame Astrid, yeah.
Dame Astrid, yes.
Sorry to not fly you to the moon for your birthday, but have a great one nonetheless.
I'm 48 this year, too.
Oh, that's interesting.
48 plus 40 is 96.
Totally love Twit, but I find it amazing if people cannot question things.
My wife, Natasha, one of the brightest and most beautiful Russians you'll ever want to meet, has major doubts, too, about the moon landing, so I'm planning to send her around to see Leo next time she's in the United States.
Is she hot?
Actually, I've seen her.
She is hot.
And he'll definitely Dame her when she does.
Awesome.
And I guess they're visiting us someplace in the middle.
We can't talk about where they are, but I'm...
No, but it's from Sir Mark and Dame Astrid.
I guess.
Thank you both.
Adam Colby, Sir Adam Colby, to you, Minasha, Wisconsin.
My wife's a listener and lost her job.
Please give her some job hunting karma.
Thank you for putting on the show.
We'd like to wish happy birthday to Adam.
Thank you very much.
Yeah, here you go.
Here's some job hunting karma.
You've got karma.
Uh-oh!
I'm getting ready.
I got it.
I got it.
Hold on.
69!
69, dude!
Okay, here we go.
Daniel Collins, Grosse Pointe, Michigan.
69, 69.
Wanted to support a great show.
Can I get some karma, please?
Mm-hmm.
You've got karma.
Mike Nikolichuk in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan.
6969.
Donating solely because John nailed my name in my pro-Mars rant two weeks ago.
Thanks very much.
Congrats to Adam for quitting smoking.
And John, I'm working on getting you the thing we talked about, if you know what I mean.
He lives in Paris.
Hello, hello, hello, hello, hello.
What is the thing, if you know what I mean?
You can't talk about this?
Mm-hmm.
Brian Leslie in Bremerton, Washington, 6969.
Anal intruder.
I'd like to wish my smoking hot Texan wife a happy birthday.
And so we don't have her on the list.
Put her on the list.
What's her name?
Brian Leslie's wife.
Brian Leslie's smoking wife.
Smoking wife.
Hey, what happened to the birthday thingy?
Hey, what the hell?
Okay.
Something like that.
He needs an Atlas Shrug jingle followed by trains, good, planes, bad.
Hold on.
Let me just put Brian...
Leslie.
Leslie's smoking hot Texas wife.
Send pictures.
What does he mean?
What does he mean?
Oh, it's the subtext.
Because I get them.
Yeah, I was talking about send pictures the other day, and you were saying send pictures to me that it would be a good thing if we did the show earlier, send pictures, and then maybe we could get the show done earlier, too, send pictures.
Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand.
All aboard, trains good, planes bad.
Woo-hoo!
There you go.
Yeah, we're not cheap here.
We roll it out for you.
Plainfield, Illinois.
69, 69.
I'd like to say happy 7th anniversary of my loving wife, Deb.
And mother of two little human resources, we could use some relationship.
Carmen, a de-douching for her.
P.S. Adam and Mickey met our youngest HR at the Hot Pockets Meetup in Illinois, and she was the youngest attendee.
Thanks for your hours of research and entertainment.
I know exactly who she was.
You've been de-douched.
You've got karma.
And these kids, man, they jump on Miss Mickey.
They love Mickey.
That must be pleasing.
Charles George, Granby, Connecticut, 6969.
Looking for some swazzling of karma from her smoking hot wife, Jessie, who happens to share a birthday with Adam, 93.
It's not Jessie, it's Jess.
Jess.
Okay, Jess.
I would also like to hear some slide whistle and a random douchebagging.
What?
Just a random douchebag?
All right.
And slide whistle.
The best podcast in the universe.
Okay.
As I move this thing down.
Miguel.
Miguel Gonsalves.
Gonsalves, yeah.
London.
6969.
Hi, guys.
I've been listening for a while, and today I decided to donate.
The other day, walking back from home, three thoughts occurred.
One, I really agree with the value-for-value model.
You really offer something entertaining and thoroughly challenging.
There is little more than I can ask for, and I thought I should really contribute to this.
Two, I find myself thinking, what will happen if they stop doing the show?
And I feel a sense of urgency.
I need to do something.
So if I want you guys to keep doing the show and the good work, I have to donate.
Like everyone, I have bits that I would like to change.
E.G. our example, the crackpot stuff from Adam.
And thanks, John, for bringing the show back down to earth.
But I'm not in the place of making any demands.
And I don't want to.
Just do what you think is right and the money will keep coming.
Finally, the show is 90% crap.
And 10% genius.
And that 10% genius keeps me coming back.
Don't get me wrong.
10% is an insanely high proportion.
Most shows are 99.9% crap.
I like this guy's thinking.
He's right.
Shows are 99.9% crap.
Actually, most of them are 100% crap.
Do you hear me doing the mind control stuff?
Do you like it?
Yeah, I like the ringing.
It's good.
Yeah, it's good, right?
Anyway, he goes on and says...
Doesn't even cover the fraction of him before I discovered the show via twit.
He remembers you, I guess, in some way.
The rest is history.
He also doesn't want any horns, bells, whistles as they drive me crazy.
Hey!
69-69.
Don't do that.
Don't do that.
But he didn't say no cowbell.
Oh, he did say Bell.
All right.
By the way, it's okay to censor the messages, but when they're actually saying, hey, you were great on MTV, why do you not read that?
Is there a reason for that?
Like, you just need to erase me from history?
I mean, what, do you work for Viacom now?
It was part of a longer sentence, and I didn't see that it was adding anything to the message.
And all he said was...
I decided to investigate why he was involved with my childhood VJ from MTV. How is that important?
Hey, you know what?
Why don't you go on Wikipedia right now and just erase the whole MTV from my page, okay?
Just go ahead and do that.
I'm sure that some will be happy.
I want to finish this first.
Can I do that later?
Yeah, sure.
69!
69!
Hey, we're not done yet.
We've got more 69, 69.
I know.
I'm just rolling it up.
Teen Turb in Botany, New South Wales, 69, 69.
Sizzy in Toronto, Ontario, 69, 69.
Since your old episodes were such a good company in my recent vacation, you've taken to Ripping Indians instead of Gitmo Poutine Hosers.
What?
I figure it's time for another donation.
Give me an Italian Shut Up Slave and Karma.
Oh, Jesus.
Ah.
I'm hardly ready for that.
Hold on a second.
Italian shut-up slave.
Okay.
You've got karma.
There you go.
Nailed that one just in time.
And that's the end for the 6969 segment.
69!
69!
All right, good.
Uh, now I got double six on the sticks with Ivan Vucicca.
So how many do we have?
Can I just do them all in one go?
Yeah.
No, there's no, no.
Ivan, uh, in Vucicca, I think, in Zagreb.
Zagreb.
Sixty-six on the sticks.
Um...
It's all the way from Gitmo Nation checkerboard Croatia.
It's an interesting ride over here from one corrupt government to another overtaxing and even more EU subservient one.
Since lists of austerity and other measures of the previous Greek government were very reminiscent of lists of measures done by previous Croatian governments.
VAT increased, for example.
Are we test betting?
All in all, with joining the EU next year, dealing with a Russian pipeline and other things, Croatia and the rest of the Balkans will probably be interesting to watch.
The rain stick seems to work even remotely.
We're having some big rains after a long period of drought with my last name meaning wolf.
Can I have a lone wolf rain stick karma?
You've got karma.
That's actually a good combo.
Yeah, Kevin Seifert in Atascadero, California, to double some sticks on the nickels.
Hey man, double sticks on the sticks.
Yeah, that's it.
Do you know how many emails I get from people who say it worked?
Yeah, I can imagine.
It's quite a lot.
It's quite a lot.
We're in Bogula, Hamburg, Deutschland, 6493, which is the year, month, and day of your birthday.
I belong to a team of journalist trainers.
This is a good one, by the way.
This letter is great.
I belong to a team of journalist trainers, and we always use the best podcasts in the universe on our courses as an example of uncorrupted journalism and for making money on the internet in a post-banner ad world.
We use meme bells and slide whistles in our courses to indicate to our students right and wrong answers.
That would be great!
He's just in class all of a sudden like, sorry kid, get out!
That's great.
To indicate right and wrong answers the Pavlov way.
And!
It's amazing when after two days, the course participants greet us with an in the morning.
And for, greet us with an in the morning.
Sorry about the read.
For my trip to Vietnam with Sir Jan, I need some karma for the flight and the course participants there to get it right.
And so we don't end up like Ling Ling and Leanne and you have to call Clinton or Clooney to bail us out.
Keep up the good work.
Hot pit shotty and he wants to, you know, hot pit shotty.
Hot pit shotty.
You've got karma.
And Werner is the producer of the Climategate jingle, which I would think it would be nice to play.
To the gate, to the gate, to the Climategate.
It is indeed one of the finer productions we have here on the best podcast in the universe.
It's the bird.
It is.
It makes it work.
That's right.
Link.me, L-E-E-N-K.me, M-E, Winterville, Georgia, 6161, Swazzle Sticks.
That's right.
6161 is yet a new donation known as Swazzle Sticks.
Swazzle Sticks.
Been a while since I donated, and pretty tight, not a full-on boner, though, just a semi.
Please mention my WordPress plugin, L-E-E-N-K.me, so I can write this off.
Wife and I are headed to the DRC to pick up our two kiddos in September, hopefully.
How about a Chicky Chicky Chonga and the Italian Slave Girl?
What's a Chicky Chicky Chonga?
I think that he's talking about Hapuchari Ching Ching.
Ha!
It's like a chimichanga, chaka chuka?
Okay, I don't know about this.
Okay.
Simon Reed in New York City, 60.6.
Now you have a special 60 years young birthday karma for my mom, Carol.
Yep, on the list.
Turned her on to the show a couple years ago, and she loves you both!
She also loves the kids' version of That's One Hot Milf.
But it would be all kinds of wrong to request that one.
So, maybe if we just don't call it a request, but just my finger kind of slipped and...
It's one hot milk, baby.
Yeah, just whatever.
In Alamo, California, 5150 Podcast for Peace.
Drunk donating for all you do.
It's easy, really.
Okay.
Eliezer, one of the two.
Martinez.
Eliezer, Martinez.
Eliezer, okay.
Florence, South Carolina.
Yeah.
51.5.
After listening to the Puerto Rico governor at the RNC, I went nuts.
Hence the 51.50.
Call him douchebag twice, please.
That soldier story is total BS, vet whisperer my ass.
The guy's a pathological liar.
He really doesn't care about Puerto Rico.
His goal is to become a high-ranking cabinet number in the possible Romney presidency.
His rhetoric back home is totally different than what he says in the U.S. media.
Please give him a toot of the head.
Shut up, slave.
I wish there was a president with the balls to openly say, we will never give Puerto Rico statehood.
You will always be a U.S. colony.
We don't want to go through the trouble of putting another star on the flag.
We don't want any of that.
What does he want?
Two to the head?
Two to the head.
Shut up, slave.
Okay.
Shut up, slave.
There's not.
So Martinez is probably right.
Yeah, I think he's very right.
But yeah, the guy also in his story says he kept going back and back and back to see this one vet.
It just doesn't ring true.
Jaren Van Aar.
Okay, let's try Jeroen.
Jaren Van Aar.
Just don't be a dick.
Just don't Jeroen.
Jeroen.
There you go.
Van Aar.
Van Aar.
From Schaik.
Schaik.
No.
Shrike.
Shrike!
Close enough.
I made you guys a 50 bucks donation.
Sorry that it's all up for now.
I'm leaving some Gitmo Nation lowlands again after having slay for five months and an annual recurrence.
I really enjoyed your show on Arrow.
That's the one that burned to the ground.
Oh.
Even if you were going overboard with the tinfoil heads.
Glad to have found you and John again on the No Agenda Show.
I've got a question.
Whatever happened to the hydro booster?
He means the hydroxy booster.
Yeah, whatever.
Why didn't you put one on that truck for the hot pockets?
I wish I could have, but I don't know how to make them.
The listeners of the Arrow Classic Rock Show, they put it on for me.
So if anyone wants to put one on my truck now here in Texas, please.
I know it works.
I have a rust bucket for sure.
I know it works.
Sir Andrew Haverson.
Hey, hey, hey, hey.
You can't just dismiss that.
I know it works.
I've put it on.
I've seen the savings.
Yeah.
Sir Andrew Haverson in Gravenhurst, Ontario, 50.
And finally, Sir Greg Brunsell in Kenosha, Wisconsin, 50.
And thank you very much.
Now, we also got, we have, you have to mention, thank you, all the people that came in with 48, 48, just by name.
And there is one person that said, a lot of people sent notes in, but there's one I thought would be worth discussing.
And you can thank them.
John Johnson Jr., Mark Heimerman.
You're not thanking anybody.
No, I'm steaming here.
For what?
I'm steaming how you're just dismissing something that we have...
We went all through that before.
I've dismissed it before as bull crap.
Even though I showed you proof last time?
You showed me no proof.
Well, you don't believe me?
There was no proof whatsoever.
You were dreaming the proof.
Your proof was that you laid off the gas and drove around a lot better.
That's the only reason you got any better gas mileage.
Why would it be dumping water into the engine to give you better gas mileage?
It's not water.
It's hydrogen.
Hydrogen?
Yeah.
Where's the hydrogen come from?
From the hydroxy booster.
It's Brown's gas.
It's hydrogen.
You create hydrogen right on board and you put that into the intake.
We're talking about water.
So how do you create hydrogen without using energy to create the hydrogen?
Of course you create.
You put it onto the alternator.
Okay, so let's look at this from a logical perspective.
You're running on gasoline, right?
Mm-hmm.
And you're pumping hydrogen in there to mix up with it.
Mm-hmm.
Why at some point when you actually got the thing working and you're going like a bat out of hell, you just kill the gas part of it and just run it on hydrogen?
I'd love to.
If I knew how to cut the gas part off, I'd love to do that.
That'd be great.
If somebody out there who's an engineer can fix this up and we can test it for sure.
Okay.
So let's thank some people.
All right, so let me just do the list.
Felix Kornici, of course, Sir Mark Ditham and Dave Masters.
Felix Kornici.
Oh, right, the other guys.
I'm sorry.
Brian Leslie, Steve Bottoms, Joan Daudifrey, Werner Bogula, John Johnson Jr., Mark Heimerman, Pat Deary, Janusz Slim, Sam Lueng, Laurie...
Thank you all very much for wishing me a happy 48th birthday, which is tomorrow.
And was there something you wanted to read specifically?
Yeah, Lori, she says, your birthday's on Monday.
A couple of producers here in Helsinki will meet for a lunch celebrating Adam, which is nice, very nice.
If any of the local producers would like to join in, meet us at KAMPPI Barbecue House at noon on Monday.
Wait a minute, there's barbecue in Helsinki?
Well, who knows what that tastes like.
For an Austinite, that's pretty weird.
Yeah, well, it's pretty weird for anyone.
Can I have the reindeer brisket?
Oh, now that would be good.
I bet you it's outstanding.
No, barbecue reindeer's got to be dynamite.
Reindeer's delicious.
I wish we could get some.
I wonder if they harvest any here in Texas.
They got any reindeer we can go hunt.
You got the Oryx.
Yeah, I'm getting that set up.
Anyway, give her a Huntsman Karma for setting that up.
Of course.
That's very cool indeed.
You've got karma.
Cool, alright.
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We've got some knighthoods coming up, so wrap it up, if you will.
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Second half of the show.
And here we go.
Well, let's start off with something light before we get to some of the things I believe you might go into.
A new thing cropped up on C-SPAN. I don't know if you spotted this.
All I saw was black and white television.
But apparently they found their Andy Carver.
Or Carvin, whatever his name is.
Oh, so Randy Corvin.
Randy Corvin, is that what it is?
He's the guy from PBS who aggregates tweets and they call it news.
Right, right, he aggregates.
Well, apparently their C-SPAN saw this and said, you know, we have an even smaller audience than CNN, so we can do this too.
It's public money.
Actually, it's not.
It's cable money.
Cable money.
Yeah, okay.
And so you have the new guy.
You want to hear him?
Really?
Because he's got something to tell you.
What is the guy's name?
What is his title?
What is the guy's name?
He tells you what he is.
Hi, I'm Jeremy.
C-SPAN's digital and social media specialist.
Stop.
Okay.
I've got to Google this.
Jeremy C-SPAN's...
What did he call himself?
Social media specialist.
Now...
You should note that as part of the social media, since there's really rounding things up, Facebook is kind of left out.
But as far as I'm concerned, that's fantastic.
Okay, I don't really see the guy anywhere.
Okay.
During the conventions, we're using social media in all sorts of ways to take you closer to the conventions and get you a behind-the-scenes look.
Using Twitter, we're going to see what delegates are tweeting and also what other C-SPAN viewers are tweeting about the convention.
On Facebook, we're sharing images, infographics, pictures from the conventions, and As well as all the major speeches from the conventions.
On Tout, we're taking your reaction and reaction from delegates.
And on Google Plus, we're having conversations with delegates and reporters talking about the convention.
We're also featuring blogs, and all of this is going to be featured at C-SPAN's convention hub at cspan.org slash campaign2012.
Check it out.
Check it out.
Okay, so Tout...
What is that?
I've never heard of it either.
Is that like taint only different?
T-O-U-T. It's some crap.
Who knows what it is?
Taint.
I think it's taint.
No, it's tout.
T-O-U-T. Hey, wait a minute.
Campaign 2012 goes right to the...
Oh, okay.
It goes to the DNC tab.
I see.
Where is this guy?
So Tout is going to get stuff on Tout.
And by the way, this is breaking news.
They're going to use infographics.
Oh, wow.
You know, this is one thing we've never talked about.
How annoying are infographics?
What are infographics?
Infographics.
You know, those are those big charts that show this happens and then this, you know, but it's a cartoon thingy.
You know what I really love?
I love it when they do word clouds.
Because the whole trick of a word cloud is not how big, because you're focused on, oh, this word is big.
Oh, that's a big word.
It's which words they choose to put in the cloud.
That's what it's about.
But they never tell you that.
I think we should do a word cloud that's completely bogated word.
Some of the words aren't even in the text anywhere.
Just put it in there.
So they're doing Google Hangouts?
Oh, touts!
I think we should just call them taints.
That's what's funnier.
We should have a social network called Taint, and instead of doing a tout, you do a taint.
My goodness.
I've never heard of Tauts.
Who's behind Tauts?
I don't know.
I just found out about it when I heard this guy.
I'm looking at the...
There's a million possible things you can do, but what's Tauts?
You've got to have some connection.
Something's corrupt about it.
Let's find out about Tauts.
Who's running Tauts?
Who's running this show?
I've never, ever, ever heard of Tauts.
Yes, exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
So let's find out.
Tauts.
Who's behind Tauts?
Is it about us?
Tauts.
About.
Here we go.
About.
Maybe the chat room knows.
I'm going to get the chat room window a little closer to me here.
You look up Tout in the Wikipedia, they don't even have the website.
It's just about the meaning of the word.
So Wikipedia doesn't help us, which is unusual.
Interesting.
So it's not in the book of knowledge, so that's a problem.
Oh, listen to this.
From there, about us.
Oh, this is bogative.
Brands like Access Hollywood, USA Today, ESPN, CBS, and the Weather Channel interact directly with their audiences, soliciting comments and questions.
It's a mainstream media shill network.
Tout is changing how people interact, delivering a rich social sharing experience in full-color sound and motion.
Who is behind this?
Oh, we've got to watch this.
Tout.
Come on, man.
We gotta find...
Who's...
I'm looking, I'm looking.
I'm not finding anything.
You know what it is?
I finally just get this clip.
I found it.
It's Huntsman's social network.
Listen, here it is.
Tout.
This is bogative.
This is apparently...
Where are they located?
I can't even figure that out.
I think celebrities like Shaq, Katie Couric, Mitt Romney, The Rock.
Hey, which celebrity doesn't fit in this list, John?
Shaq, Katie Couric, Mitt Romney, The Rock, Jeff Probst, and Greta Van Susteren.
These are the celebrities who have started using tout to directly connect to their fans.
Stars like Madonna and Steven Spielberg answer users' touted questions from the red carpet.
This is a Hollywood bullcrap thing.
Yeah, hello?
This must be...
Is this Hilla Nolten?
Who's behind this thing?
I'm trying to find out.
If you want to email him, you have to go to jeremiahatout.com, so that doesn't reveal anything.
Well, let's go do a who-is.
Come on, who-is time.
I'm doing a who-is right now.
Okay.
Well, you go on with something.
I'm going to do a who-is in the background.
I got the who-is right here.
Michael Downing.
Oh, no.
It's private.
It's got one of those private bullcrap things?
Yep.
They're hiding who's behind it?
Yes.
Why?
Why not?
This is interesting.
Okay, now we gotta know.
Hey, come on.
Cyber experts in our chat room.
Hello, where are you?
Come on.
Chat room.
Couldn't do better than that.
Maybe they'll try to do something.
The chat room is actually very good, John.
Roger McGuinn, the famous guitarist, was listening to our last show.
And what did he say?
He says, I decided to listen to the show.
I could read the letter.
I decided to listen to the show live.
Wait a minute.
After Adam's appearance on Twit.
I bet you he said that.
No, he didn't.
Did he say, Adam Curry, my favorite MTV VJ? No.
Oh, okay.
He's an honest guy.
So anyway...
So he says...
So I joined the chat room.
He says, what a bunch of a-holes.
Really?
Yeah.
Maybe he was in the wrong chat room.
How many do we have?
I don't know.
I guess they rousted him or something.
Roger McGuinn of...
Of course, he's famous for playing in Crosby, Stills, Nash, Young, and McGuinn.
No, no.
He's a bird.
And considered one of the greatest 12-string guitar players ever.
Well, no.
He's a 7-string guitar player.
Well, now, yeah, because he invented the 7-string guitar.
Which I think, if it was marketed better, could take off.
Yeah.
Just like my hydroxy booster.
Because it's really awesome.
And invent the hydroxy booster?
No, the seven-string guitar is just as important as the hydroxy booster.
But yet, the hydroxy booster, you poo-poo, and an extra string on the guitar, because he's a freak of nature and can play seven strings.
Anyway, so what you're saying is he's never listening to the show live again.
No, he's never going to the chat room again.
But he may listen to the show.
Yeah, who knows?
Well, of course, I'm kidding, but of course I was at his house in San Francisco, right?
Oh, that's the place he stays in.
We had dinner, don't you remember?
Yeah, right.
You were there.
He's a lovely guy.
His wife is awesome.
Yeah.
His wife is awesome.
But, of course, he'll never come here.
He'll never come visit me in Austin because he doesn't fly.
They've been to Texas a couple of times on their tours.
Yeah?
If they came, that'd be awesome.
I'd cook for him.
He'd be glad to stop by.
Okay, so do we know anything about Tout now?
I can't find out anything.
There's nothing in here that tells you who they are, where they're from, when they started, anything.
But what I also can't find is this Jeremy douche.
He's nowhere to be found.
Jeremiah.
Oh, he's Jeremiah.
Like Aunt Jeremiah?
I guess.
You sure it's Jeremiah?
Just hit contact me and it opens up a window.
It says to where the email goes.
There's no Jeremiah.
Hit the contact me button.
On what?
I'm looking at C-SPAN. It says contact us.
I'm looking at C-SPAN. You hit that button.
It says to jeremiah at tout.com.
So Jeremiah is, he's the C-SPAN guy, but he's also, he's the C-SPAN digital guy?
Was that the guy's name?
Was it Jeremiah?
That's what I'm talking about, the C-SPAN digital guy.
Play that beginning again, he says his name.
I thought he said Jeremy.
High on Jeremy, C-SPAN's digital.
Yeah, he said Jeremy.
This is Jeremiah, different.
I can't find Jeremy.
Jeremy, he's the C-SPAN digital guy.
Maybe he's part of this Tout scam.
Now, we've got to find out more about Tout.
Hmm.
Maybe the terms of use will be something in there.
Okay.
Well, that's something we've got to work on then.
That's good.
That's very good.
You have to be 13 to be in it.
Oh, well, it's the Facebook spin-off then.
This tout thing.
This is so annoying.
This is the world we live in.
If we really wanted to, we'd be annoyed constantly.
Isn't there some way to...
I mean, come on, people.
Can't believe the chat room hasn't figured this one out already.
No.
Anyway.
Okay, second half of the show.
So, of course, this has been a very hot topic recently in my world about the moon landing.
And as I was reviewing my notes, because, of course, I actually have...
People are saying WWE for tout.
No.
Yes, they say, Adam, WWE is a major investor in tout.
Well, that could be, but that doesn't mean...
That's pretty funny.
Yeah, that would be funny.
Oh, here it is.
Okay, hold on a second.
I've got...
This is great.
I'm getting the link right now.
And here it is from dmwmedia.com.
WWE partners with Tout, joins $13.4 million investment round.
Okay.
Are there any VCs mentioned?
Let me see.
But how funny is that?
We are literally, so this is about the election, which of course we already just called this professional wrestling.
You actually did it earlier in the show, specifically.
The professional wrestling guys are actually involved.
It doesn't get any better.
Are we good or what?
Damn, boy!
We gots to be good!
Well, whatever.
Let me see.
Uh-oh.
Let me see.
Multi-channel.
This is so funny.
Well, good work, chat room.
Here.
Let's see.
There's got to be VCs involved.
$13.4 million has got to be...
Here, Vince McMahon, WWE Chairman, touts real-time video technology will become a critical component of fan interactivity in our weekly television programming known as the Republican and Democratic Conventions and will be utilized to connect WWE directly with our fans in new ways.
Exciting, exciting!
That's great.
Well, so much for the credibility of C-SPAN. Well, they may have been suckered.
Well, doesn't...
What's the name of...
What's Mike Arrington's outfit?
What's that called again?
What's the name of that?
Well, you're talking about TechCrunch?
Yeah, TechCrunch.
They don't have the...
They're not on this.
They didn't scoop this.
They're not on...
There's going to be VentureBeat, TechCrunch, and there's one third one, Mashables.
One of those three should have had a story on this.
No, they're too busy blowing Apple employees.
iTunes 5 is coming out.
It's so awesome.
That was my tech press.
You liked that, didn't you?
Alright, so let's move on.
That's actually what your car is going to sound like when you put that thing on it.
I'm such a dick.
Hey, it's my birthday.
Can't you be nice to me?
Tomorrow is your birthday.
So we're going to...
This is great.
Send me links about this.
People are all over tout now.
This is fantastic.
The WWE actually invested.
Love it.
Okay.
So as I was reviewing my notes about the moon landing, do you recall, John, that a few years ago it turned out that NASA had erased all of the tapes of the moon landing?
Remember that story?
Yeah.
It was a baffling story.
Yeah.
And then...
I mean, I would have stored them in my basement.
They told me.
Well, apparently they degaussed them, which, by the way, if you degauss magnetic tape, I don't really believe you can restore it, but they claim that they restored it.
You know, if you erase a magnetic tape, usually under one of the recorders, sometimes there's residual data that you can recover, but if you degauss it...
With one of those huge magnet things?
That sucks everything off.
I mean, you're done.
Well, they had a Hollywood company in Burbank, and they were magically able to restore it.
By the way, it's the company that does all the special effects for all the big movies.
That's not what I want to hear to talk about today.
And I find this very interesting, the timing of this, that the BBC, apparently, they also erased their videotapes.
Did you realize that, John?
Huh.
Well, that's fascinating.
Well, listen.
Neil Armstrong and his Apollo 11 crew made history, as we know, but part of that history was lost until now.
The BBC's live moon landing programme featuring Cliff Mitchell, Moore, James Byrd, and Sir Patrick Moore was missing, presumed wiped.
One of those who mailed last weekend was Philip Longdon, who was 12 at the time.
Welcome, Philip.
Philip made a recording of that programme.
Let's just hear how it begins with Philip's mum.
Today is the 21st of July, 1969, the day the first man landed on the moon.
So, this is a four-minute story, which I won't bore you with, about how some kid has saved the BBC by making a recording in 1969 of the moon landing.
What is kind of not...
Which the BBC apparently lost, had been wiped.
Because the library doesn't have it.
And they're very interested in receiving this tape.
Now this is...
Wait, let's back up a second.
Yeah.
This is a...
New story.
Brand new story.
This is a...
Was it done as a kinescope?
No, it's an audio tape.
That's the funny thing about it.
Oh, it's an audio tape.
Okay.
Well, I can see a kid doing that.
But that's the funny thing about it.
It's like the BBC is so happy that they can restore their library with audio.
So they've wiped one of the most important moments in history, just like NASA did, by the way, and they're so happy that some kid has an audio recording all these years later.
Do they do this just to entice me?
Just to rile me up?
They have meetings about it.
They say, what about curry?
We gotta screw with them.
Let's fuck with them.
Yeah, that's great.
We love it.
We love it.
So that was my second half of the show.
When I was growing up in the Netherlands, we had this...
There were some kids who had deformities.
And I think we called them soft and on kids.
Do you remember any of this, John?
No.
Okay.
It was only, I think, in Germany and a couple other countries in Europe because there was a company, a pharmaceutical company, who had developed a drug which I believe in the Netherlands was called Softenan.
I'm not sure what it was called elsewhere and if it ever made it anywhere like to the United States.
It was...
Thalidomide?
Does that ring a bell?
Oh yeah, we had a thalidomide scandal here, and luckily we caught our thalidomide problem early, and most of Europe didn't, and there's a bunch of these people, they're all pretty much in their 50s and 60s now.
Right, so kind of my age, and I remember being in school, and you'd see some of these people, like, you know, with an arm an inch long and stuff, and, you know, really, it was messed up.
Yeah, it was terrible.
It was sold as a headache.
No, no.
Instead of good old aspirin, take this.
No, it was morning sickness.
It was against morning sickness.
Okay, well, it was sold as a headache remedy in the United States.
Right, but it was sold to pregnant women as a...
Yeah, smart move.
Yeah, so they've apologized, John.
The German firm, which made Thalidomide, has issued an apology for the first time to victims of the drug.
In the 1950s, children were born with severe birth defects after their mothers took the drug to counter morning sickness.
Speaking at the unveiling of a statue to victims, the company's chief executive said its long silence was a sign of shock.
We ask for your forgiveness because for nearly 50 years we didn't find a way of reaching out to you, he said.
We're very sorry for that.
Maybe it's because it's no longer, you know, they can't, it's, what is this, statute of limitations?
Do you think that's why he's doing it now?
Wow, that would be sinister.
That would be chicken crap.
How could I even consider this to be the truth?
This is unreal.
Yeah, I think the Japanese are still waiting to apologize to the Chinese when using the same theory.
Yeah, right.
What are they going to apologize for?
Manchuria.
Oh.
Manchuko, whatever they call that.
You know, the rape of Nanking.
Oh, Tapu Chata Ching Ching.
They were terrible.
Right.
You sent me a link while just sticking on the pharma stuff.
Haloperidol.
Is there something you wanted me to do with it?
Heldol.
Well, I sent you a link, another link, which I had a clip and I didn't get it, but there's this story that's floating around on Veterans News.
Do you have that email that I sent you?
Yeah, I do.
And we actually...
Yeah, no, I got it.
We kind of discussed it because we talked about this woman before.
Who's the CIA asset, and she makes all these accusations.
I've read her book.
I've read her book.
But isn't this the executive assassination ring that you wanted to talk about?
Yeah, yeah, the executive assassination ring.
But what I thought was interesting was, let me get the Haldol thing.
She says that she was one of the first people arrested under the Patriot Act, she claims.
Yes.
I don't know of any documentation.
There must be some.
And she was taken aside and told to, you know, shut up and all the rest.
She was in prison for five years and considered, you know...
Obligerant.
Enemy obligerant.
She was a belligerant.
But she was actually an asset.
Yeah.
The CIA likes to do, and they threatened her with this, was giving her an injection of a Hal doll, which turns you into a zombie.
Uh-huh.
Now, so I looked up Haldol, which is, I guess, something that floats around.
It's used to treat psychotic disorders.
But I just thought it was the fun—we can talk more about her, and we can talk more about Dick Cheney's assassination ring, which he killed, I guess, some senator and then somebody else.
Anyway.
Oh yeah, Pat Tillman.
This is the thing that was new to me.
Apparently Pat Tillman, the gung-ho guy from the Arizona State or the Arizona Cardinals, and he quit the football team to go fight in Afghanistan.
And I guess he was going to, just about to the point where he was going to say, this whole thing stinks.
And he was going to come out and say it, but somehow...
He had a conversation with, of all people, and apparently there was a correspondence going on between him and Noam Chomsky, and Chomsky outed him, and so they had to kill him.
So this is surprising to you somehow?
No.
Okay.
But what's surprising is the great list.
I mean, they never advertised this on TV. So let me just want to read this.
Oh, you mean this excellent drug that we have no access to?
Or can we get it?
Can we get us a...
You can get it.
I think you can get it.
Okay, so...
But I just love...
The side effects, and I wanted to just read them.
Okay.
Because there's no ad.
But it'd be the same thing.
You know, Haldol, which is also Haloperidol, can cause drowsiness.
That's reasonable.
Dry mouth.
Increased saliva.
Blurred vision.
Loss of appetite.
Constipation.
Or diarrhea.
Heartburn.
Nausea.
Vomiting.
Vomiting.
Difficulty falling asleep or staying asleep.
Blank facial expression.
Okay.
Uncontrollable eye movements.
Slowed, uncontrollable movements of any part of the body.
Restlessness, agitation, nervousness, mood changes, dizziness, headache, breast enlargement, breast melt production, missed menstrual periods, decreased sexual ability in men, increased sexual desire.
Difficulty urinating, fever, muscle stiffness, confusion, irregular heartbeat, sweating, decreased thirst, neck cramps, tongue that sticks out of the mouth.
I gotta get me some of this.
This sounds good.
Tightness in the throat.
Difficulty swallowing.
Fine, worm-like tongue movements.
Whoa!
Is there a commercial name for this?
Haldol.
H-A-L-D-O-L. Uncontrollable rhythmic face, mouth, or jaw movement.
Seizures.
Eye pain and discoloration.
Decreased vision, especially at night.
Seeing everything with a brown tint.
Ha!
That's when you put your head up your ass, apparently, after taking Haldol.
Rash, yellowing of the skin or eyes and erection that lasts for hours may cause other side effects.
I mean, what is this stuff even doing on the market?
And apparently, according to this woman in her report, you end up with, you know, if they're trying to, I guess everyone in the agency knows this, they just give you a shot of it and then you're like, you're just like an idiot.
Yeah.
That you can't do anything.
Why is this medication prescribed?
I'm reading from the government website.
Is that what you're looking at now?
Yeah, the PubMedHealth?
No, I'm reading the NIH.gov.
Yeah, that's what I'm reading.
It's used to treat psychotic disorders.
This is what they're going to give to those 100,000 veterans.
Also used to control motor tics.
I have that.
Verbal tics.
I have that.
Hey, it's for Tourette's.
I can get it.
Yeah.
Cool.
So instead of shouting F-words and twitching, my tongue could be hanging out of my mouth and I could see everything brown?
Yeah.
I think...
And you get also the tongue to be moving around in a worm-like way.
I think we have a winner.
You look like you're trying to pick up girls in Texas.
We have a winner!
Oh, man.
This is fantastic.
You know, this is not a coincidence that we talk about that this executive order comes out and you stumble upon this Haldol.
Yeah.
Other uses.
Used to treat confusion and difficulty thinking.
Yeah, I bet.
And understanding that is caused by severe physical or mental illness.
Talk to your doctor about the possible risks.
I'm severely ill.
Is there a risk of me taking this?
Nah.
But it actually says you can give it to adults and children who have Tourette's disorder.
Yeah, yeah.
I figured you're a candidate.
I think I'm an outstanding candidate.
I'll tell you what.
I'll have the doctor prescribe some, and why don't you and I have a hellball party?
I'm going to skip that party.
We can have our tongues hanging out.
I'm sorry, I have diarrhea.
But at least I don't have Tourette's.
Wow.
Well, along that tip there, there is a bill.
That is a California bill, which you may be very interested in, that is, has it now passed?
Yes, it's passed.
It's on to your fine governor, Jerry Brown, for his signature.
And this is a very interesting bill, Senate Bill 1172, SB 1172.
Don't Google it just yet.
You already Googled it, didn't you?
No, I'm writing something down.
Haldol, H-A-L-D-O-L. This is the gay therapy ban bill.
Have you heard of this?
Nope.
It's very, very interesting.
So the gay therapy ban bill, which, as I said, SB 1172, for California only, but has now been passed, introduced by Senator Liu, is very, very interesting.
So...
Just a little digest here.
The bill would prohibit a mental health provider, as defined, from engaging in sexual orientation change efforts, as defined, with a patient under 18 years of age.
The bill would provide that any sexual orientation change efforts attempted on a patient under 18 years of age by a mental health provider shall be considered unprofessional conduct and shall be subject the provider to discipline by the provider's licensing entity.
So you can lose your medical practice.
If you try to, well here it is, if you try to change someone's sexual behavior.
What if a gay person walks into the doctor's office and says, you know what?
I want to change my sexual behavior.
I feel that maybe I'm not really gay.
If you're under 18, that will be against the law.
Wow.
And here's what's interesting.
This is a fascinating bill, and I'm not...
I don't think this belongs in legislation at all.
What kind of country are we living in?
Fascist?
Yeah.
The legislature finds and declares all of the following.
So these are fact.
Fact and truths known to California.
Being lesbian, gay, or bisexual is not a disease, disorder, illness, deficiency, or shortcoming.
The major professional association of mental health practitioners and researchers in the United States have recognized this fact for nearly 40 years.
Can I just say, why has transgendered and bicurious been omitted?
Isn't LBGT? Why are the T's not represented and why are the bicurious also not represented on this list?
I feel discriminated against.
And then it just goes on and on and on.
And at the very end here...
Sexual orientation change efforts.
Definition.
You'd be interested in this.
Any practices by mental health providers that seek to change an individual's sexual orientation.
This includes efforts to change behaviors or gender expressions.
Like, girlfriend!
I don't know.
What does that mean?
What does it...
Behavior or gender expressions.
What do you think that means?
Wow, read that again.
Okay, sexual orientation change efforts means, colon, any practices by mental health providers that seek to change an individual's sexual orientation.
This includes efforts to change behaviors or gender expressions, Or, to eliminate or reduce sexual or romantic attractions or feelings towards individuals of the same sex.
But what is change behaviors or gender expressions?
Well, I think, for example, if somebody is like, let's say some male.
But just take me as an example.
Okay, you go into the doctor and you're wearing a boa.
Okay.
As one does.
A feather boa, and you keep wearing this damn thing, and you keep, as you talk to him, you keep flipping the boa over your shoulder.
Yeah.
And then, you know, and then do what you normally do, of course, which is then preen your hair.
And I twitch, and I drop that bar.
Well, you got to, that twitch is something else.
But you, so you preen your hair, and then you grab the boa, and you flip it.
And then you call the doctor, darling.
Sweetheart.
That guy said, look, Adam, this bullet thing has got to go.
Boom, bang, throw him in jail, violation.
Is that not right?
I think that's kind of what it says, yeah.
That's what it says.
However, I'm not under the age of 18.
Well, that's even worse if you imagine it.
Some 14-year-old with Ebola.
Sexual orientation change efforts does not include...
Oh, there's exceptions.
Psychotherapies that provide acceptance, support, and understanding of clients, or the facilitation of clients' coping, social support, and identity exploration and development, including sexual orientation neutral interventions to prevent or address unlawful conduct or unsafe sexual practices.
Oh, this is interesting.
So if I... Unlawful conduct or unsafe sexual practices...
Well, I guess this is highly open to interpretation.
So if I like having anal sex, because this is how crazy this is going to get, unprotected anal sex, then you could intervene and try to change my behavior.
In fact, I think you could interpret this law as you must intervene.
What is this doing in legislation, is my question.
That's weird.
I mean, this is just more government intrusion in people's lives.
It's the worst case scenario.
Well, what's interesting is that it will come down to...
Licensing and mental health providers.
So this will eventually have something to do with insurance or something.
But I thought that was highly unusual to have this in a bill.
And meanwhile, in Germany, they're looking now at piercing your children's ears to be the same as child abuse.
Well, first of all, I don't know anyone who wants to pierce their children's ears, but I have seen it.
Well, you've watched Toddlers and Tiaras, haven't you?
Don't they wear clip-ons?
No, no, they pierce.
That show is sick.
Yeah.
But it's like watching a train wreck.
It's actually kind of interesting.
Well, while you're talking about, not to change the subject, but I'm going to do that, since you mentioned Germany, There's a piece of unreported news.
Where's Merkel right now?
Merkel, I know where she is.
But I won't say it.
Well, you know where she's been?
And I think she's doing an end around, even though the EU is mentioned in this story.
But read China on all the EU bonds.
Or read, I mean, play.
Oh.
I'm sorry, I had the wrong clip.
It's right at the top of the list.
Yeah.
With me, Zakir Jacob.
President Hu Jintao has told visiting German Chancellor Angela Merkel that China supports Europe's efforts to combat its debt crisis.
Premier Wen Jiabao has also met with Ms.
Merkel.
The two, in fact, co-chaired the second round of China-German governmental consultations.
A slew of trade deals worth several billions of dollars have been signed between both sides, and China now says it's willing to continue investing in EU government bonds after fully evaluating all the risks involved.
There's a couple things here.
One, she's in China doing some deals.
Yeah.
Trying to screw us, by the way.
Why us?
Why us?
It's from Europe.
Just the EU. They don't like us.
Oh.
So, the point is that I love the Chinese, the way they weasel out of this stuff.
They said they're going to look at reinvesting in EU bonds after considering all the, you know...
In other words, they're not going to give them a nickel.
So, the Germans are going to get screwed.
And here's the example of how the Germans are going to get screwed.
Because when I heard this, I said, oh...
I didn't know this.
Play Merkel in China.
And Premier Wen and Chancellor Merkel have taken the high-speed express to the port city of Tianjin.
They're right now at the Airbus facility there to witness the 100th A320 come off the assembly line.
And for more on this, we can speak to our reporter, Guan Xin, joining us on the phone line from Tianjin.
Wait a minute.
They took a high-speed train to go look at the Airbus facility.
Woo!
Whoa.
Now, what is an Airbus?
Now, here's the thing.
Okay, so somehow China managed to get an Airbus factory.
They've already built 100 planes.
They have the 320s.
In the China, where they're making Airbuses in China.
Yeah, that's, well, in fact, I think they should stamp on every plastic Airbus plane made in China.
That's a great idea.
That really makes you want to fly them.
Now, the thing is, it seems to me that of all the things, all the job situations you can import or export, the last thing you really need to, like, export is your aircraft-making facilities to China.
I mean, usually when Boeing finishes a jet...
They fly it to wherever they deliver it.
They don't make it in China.
With a big bow.
And it's like made in the USA. Here we go.
American.
Did you know that they had an Airbus factory in China?
No, I didn't know that.
Of course not.
Of course not.
And is this covered by any American media?
No.
Well, no.
Do the Europeans even know this?
No, but I think they should say, made in China.
No, that would be funny.
Why does everything in this thing seem so weird?
Excellent.
All right, I've got a couple things just to wing by you.
One, very funny that Curry Village in Yosemite is now killing people.
You've read this?
Is that the Hanta thing?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I believe this is a setup.
To get the Curry name out of the place?
I wish it was that cool.
No, they've been trying to shut down.
This is Agenda 21.
You know, like the Sierra Club and all these douchebags.
They've been suing Yosemite for years.
You know, they throw rocks down the mountain, say it's unsafe.
The story is too crazy.
10,000 people at risk.
I mean, what do you know about this rat poop disease?
Does this sound right to you?
Well, the rat poop disease first cropped up in the news about 10 years ago when apparently some areas of...
And it's only a certain kind of rat.
Oh, really?
10 years ago?
That's very interesting.
And it was in New Mexico or Arizona, and the commentary then was it was a, the rat poop in the dry, arid areas is where it would somehow, because the humidity was zero and it was hot, these little rats are little, they're crazy looking things.
They're not like a Norway rat.
They would, they could, two or three people caught this Hantavirus.
Right.
But the story is there's 10,000 people at risk.
If you stayed at Camp Curry, which is log cabins.
Yeah, it seems unlikely.
Right.
So I'm pretty sure this is the Nature Conservancy, Sierra Club.
They've been after people in Yosemite for a decade.
Yeah, and they hate those little cabins.
Of course they do.
Which are really cool, by the way.
Yeah.
They're outstanding.
So I think it's a hit job, but I've been trying to research.
It's been very difficult, but it does look like that's a hit job.
I'll look into it, too, because it sounds like a hit job now that you mention it.
It got by me.
Well, it's because of the curry thing that I kind of figured it out.
Two, we are very welcome, I'm sure.
September 13, 2012...
If we're lucky, we can register for the U.S. Department of State workshop in Washington, D.C. on Internet freedom policy.
I would invite any of our producers, human resources in the nation's capital to register for this...
And please, because we know internet freedom equals internet governance.
And it's very important someone goes and finds out what is going on here.
What are they going to try to sneak past us?
Well, we know what it is.
It's going to be you can't bully people.
It's closing down freedom of speech.
This is just an extension of the United Nations internet freedom thing, the resolution that we signed on to.
And then my favorite one, Haiti.
Haiti.
UN Chief Ban Ki-moon warned on Friday, Haiti was struggling to cope with a cholera epidemic that has killed thousands and deteriorating conditions in tent camps as aid groups withdraw from the impoverished country due to a lack of funding.
Okay, I would like you to think back.
To the Kumbaya and the George Clooney and the President.
We had Clinton and Bush and Obama.
We just need cash.
I know a lot of people want to send blankets or water.
Just send your cash.
And you sent your cash, and you texted your money, and you felt good, and you had a concert, and it was awesome, and everyone was there.
And now, cholera has sickened 600,000 people, killed more than 7,400 in Haiti since 2010.
By the way, the cholera, that wasn't part of the earthquake problem.
That was brought by the United Nations.
I want you to feel really good.
Did you change your Twitter icon to a little Haiti logo?
I want you to feel really good about what you did.
And that the douchebag elites took that money.
And Clinton has a hotel room now.
A whole suite of a new hotel in Haiti.
And they have a basket weaving market.
How awesome is it?
That is what should be covered in the news.
Play it.
Yeah.
I don't see Curry's pet peeve of the day.
It pisses me off.
It's just the pet peeve of the year, but okay.
It pisses me off.
It makes me so angry.
And then this just out, the green on blue, this is the Afghan police forces that are being trained by our U.S. forces.
The program has been halted.
Yeah.
As of today, breaking news.
Special Operations Forces has a strong and trusted relationship with its Afghan partners that has endured for more than a decade, despite the recent rise in insider attacks that are relatively rare.
Special Operations is fully committed to a close and productive relationship, but we're not doing it anymore right now.
Because it's dumb.
The whole thing is dumb.
Recruiting Taliban, they come in, they turn on our own guys and kill them.
Let's get out of that stupid desert.
And we're building a $100 million base in Afghanistan, I have on reliable information.
A new base, a permanent base, a perma base.
Yeah, it's over by the border.
That's going to be where the drones are stored.
Yeah, absolutely.
Because, you know, once we're in, we never leave.
And then I have a question for you.
I'm sure you saw this because this was tweeted everywhere.
Nice video on the White House.
We have this We the People thing on whitehouse.gov and you can say, hey, how come the TSA are douchebags and feeling me up and they haven't investigated like they promised Congress, like they were mandated and all this stuff.
That usually gets taken off because, oh, you know, it's like I didn't have enough votes or whatever.
But interestingly enough, the human resources and slaves of Gitmo Nation were so interested in the recipe to the White House beer.
Oh yeah, we gotta talk about this for one second before we finish.
So the beer apparently includes corn sugar.
Right.
Explain.
Well, you know, we've been talking about how they're trying to...
First of all, let's start with this beer, which is...
You have a link to it, I suppose.
In the show notes, of course.
The beer formulas have got the beer community completely bent out of shape.
Because?
Because...
Not from the corn sugar, because that's just the least of the problems.
It's all these extracts that are not necessary.
If you were serious about making beer in the White House, you could get the best hops...
The Chinook hops from Washington State, the Snoqualmie hops, some of these really famous hops that we've developed in this country that are even exported to Germany.
Wait a minute, you're not telling me he's using foreign hops, is he?
No, they're using extracts.
They're not even using hops.
That's the point.
They're not using hops.
They're using everything as bull crap.
These are like something you'd pick up at your local corner, brew it at home club.
This is like a bogus thing, and I believe that part of it is to push the corn sugar thing as regular sugar when it's a...
If you start doing the research on corn sugar, it's always a high-fructose corn syrup.
But this is a bullcrap formula.
The president's got a low-rent beer formula on there.
It's ridiculous.
Let me read the ingredients, and then you will walk this through.
The ingredients.
Two 3.3 pound cans of light malt extract.
Why?
Why?
Who would use that except some kid?
One pound of light dried malt extract.
Extract.
Twelve ounces of crushed amber crystal meth.
I mean malt.
Sorry.
So why are they using extract?
Why is there some legality?
Because this is a bogus formula.
Eight ounces of biscuit malt.
One pound of White House honey.
One and a half ounces of Kent Goldings hop pellets.
What's that?
Who knows?
One and a half ounce of Fuggles hop pellets.
Two tablespoons of gypsum.
Isn't that what's in the wall?
Isn't that what they put in drywall?
Gypsum's actually a natural ingredient in certain salt mines, in the salt itself.
One package of Windsor dry ale yeast, and then finally three-quarter cup corn sugar for priming.
Now, what's interesting is, of course, I tweeted this out saying corn sugar, really?
And so many people said, it's not the same thing, man!
I said, what do you mean?
It's bullcrap.
Is this the corn sugar that we've been talking about or is this something else?
What is this?
If you go to the high fructose corn syrup site, the site done by the public relations companies, it is the same thing.
It is high fructose corn syrup called corn sugar.
I mean, they say so themselves, the people who push the high fructose corn syrup.
Now, you'll recall that I said to you that they would be making something that looked like it would be crystallized sugar.
Do you think that this is it, or is this just literally corn syrup?
I don't know.
If you go scrounge around in the net looking for a corn sugar that is crystalline, that's something you could take a teaspoon of, I can't find it.
Hmm.
And why corn sugar in the first place?
What is the point of putting it in?
This whole, oh, we drink beer at the White House, is just bull crap.
I mean, this White House is full of it.
Oh, here it is.
To bottle, make a priming syrup on the stove with one cup of sterile water and the three-quarter cup priming sugar, which is the corn sugar.
Bring to a boil for five minutes.
Pour the mixture into an empty bottling bucket.
Hmm.
But it's corn sugar, yeah.
But I can understand where beer guys are like, what kind of crap is this?
And that's the honey ale.
Okay, here's corn sugar for sale that is in the form that you're talking about.
There you go.
This actually may be dextrose.
Oh, so that whole rant of yours was wrong?
I don't know.
I don't know what this stuff is.
It doesn't look right.
Let me look at the larger image.
We suck.
I don't know what this crap is.
Why would you want it?
You can get sugar everywhere.
Why would you buy this weird sugar?
Save sufficient sugar for bottling.
Refer to a recipe.
This is a scam to sell this sugar from Kent, Ohio.
So maybe the...
Oh, a swing state.
Swing state.
Oh, I see.
It's a swing state.
So, but maybe Kent Goldings and Fuggles, is that maybe...
I don't know what those are.
I'm not a beer maker.
Wow, that's interesting because you'd think you would be.
Why?
I don't drink beer.
No, but you're so knowledgeable on everything.
Oh, bullcrap.
I mean, I do drink good beer.
By the way, for people on the West Coast, the beer you want to drink is Lagunitas IPA. Best beer on the West Coast.
Anyway, I'm sure that of all the things we discussed today about douchebaggery, killing people, telling you what to do, shut up, slave, we'll get no emails on that.
Instead, it'll be like, you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to beer.
That's the emails we're going to get.
Yeah, so what?
So before you do that, stop and think.
And if you see something, say something.
If there's a veteran walking around who looks kooky, report him.
Yeah, call him.
Report him.
Report him immediately.
All right, John, I think we should get out of here.
I have...
Hmm.
I don't think I have anything.
Should have got out of here half an hour ago.
We've got a Thursday coming up.
Well, we had a long donation segment with my birthday and everything.
Ah, yeah.
It's your birthday.
Well, happy birthday, my friend.
Happy birthday and many more to come.
That sounds so sincere.
Thank you so much.
Oh, I mean, really?
Seriously?
No Agenda Book Club recommendation is Sinclair Lewis.
It can't happen here.
This is John C. Dvorak's recommendation, and I endorse that.
It is the original Atlas Shrugged, which of course means you kind of like that too.
That's just my extrapolation.
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