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438: Social Media Weapons

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	This is Taylor Swift.
	Adam Curry.
	John C. DeVore.
	It's Sunday, August 26, 2012.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 438.
	This is no agenda.
	Posing as a member of Pussy Riot in the capital of the Drone Star States.
	It's Austin Tejas in the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I have a bell.
	I'm John C. DeVore.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	Now, I'm sorry.
	I had a cowbell before you had a cowbell.
	I don't think so.
	Yeah.
	Oh, dude.
	Cowbell on the Daily Source Code is legendary.
	It's legendary.
	You had the...
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, it's on Wikipedia.
	Yes, it says cowbell often used in Daily Source Code.
	You better start writing it in then.
	Hey, Adam, go to justice.gov.
	Yeah, oh, gee.
	What do you see there on their newly invented website, John?
	Oh, I don't know.
	What do I see?
	They've changed it.
	They used to have a top banner with an American flag and everything.
	Yeah, now we have a challenge coin.
	Yeah, what does it say out there at the top?
	The common law is the will of mankind issuing from the life of the people.
	How is that supposed to be?
	Thank you, thank you.
	That's bull crap.
	Is that what our law is now?
	The common law is the will of mankind?
	What did they just say of the United Nations?
	That would make me feel more comfortable instead of trying to hide it.
	Read it again and tell me what it really means.
	The common law is the will of mankind, which is in big bold letters that are scripted.
	Issuing from the life, big bold letters, of the people, big bold letters.
	Issuing from the life of the people.
	So wait a minute.
	It's the will of mankind issuing from the life, the life.
	What does this mean?
	What happens to the Constitution?
	Shouldn't that be up there?
	Well, now they're going to have pictures to hold her all over the place.
	But seriously, they redesigned this website.
	You're right, they got the challenge coin up there.
	I don't know what the hell that thing is.
	Let me click on it.
	It doesn't do anything.
	And it's all like black and kind of low accent.
	Not really black.
	It's, what is it, like gray?
	Gray-black?
	It's black, black and gray.
	Gray and black.
	Yeah.
	And the common law is the will of mankind.
	That's just weird.
	Actually, I should have done this.
	What was it before?
	Because I've been to...
	I go to the...
	Go look it up on...
	Archive.
	Let's go to Archive.
	Wayback Machine.
	Yeah, because I look at the justice.gov a lot, and I'm like, wow, man, this thing changed.
	I'm just going to go back random to February 3rd.
	Let's see.
	Oh.
	Huh?
	No, this is...
	Sometimes this Wayback Machine doesn't work right.
	Here's the criminal justice system as a counter-terrorism tool.
	Here's justice.gov in Espanol.
	Oh, by the way, while we're on it, I was sent an official no agenda.
	Let me see if I have it here somewhere.
	No agenda, a Spanish lesson.
	Oh, cool.
	Yeah, would you like to hear it?
	Yes.
	Because this is something that I think is very handy for all of the slaves of Gitmo Nation.
	The following is a group of commands that may be helpful to the beginner.
	Some are given with reflexive pronouns which will be explained later.
	Algunos tienen pronombres reflexivos, los cuales explicaremos más tarde.
	Show me your passport.
	Enséñeme su pasaporte.
	Raise your hands.
	Get out of the train.
	Get out of the car.
	Stop!
	Relax your hand.
	Here it comes.
	Tell me the truth.
	Show me the trail.
	Tell me your complete and correct name.
	Of what country are you a citizen?
	Hey, citizen.
	Shut up, slave.
	God, this is Clavo.
	It would have been a lot more entertaining if you weren't giggling at your own material.
	I'm not giggling at my material.
	I'm giggling at the guy doing the translation.
	So how did you get this?
	Who is this guy?
	One of our producers sent it in.
	Oh, he just clipped from the old...
	Yeah, clipped from the show and put it together.
	Oh, I thought you actually recorded that again.
	No, no, no.
	That would constitute work.
	That's what I was thinking.
	Wow.
	I'm not going to do work.
	This is over the top.
	No, ever since you showed your production skills, people have been sending me in all kinds of stuff like this.
	Now, that's a gun.
	That's a gun sound effect.
	It'll come in very handy for our reports about the Free Syrian Army.
	So, look, I feel bad about this bad production deal, but I've decided to introduce a new feature.
	Oh, which will soon have a jingle, no doubt.
	Okay, what's the new feature?
	It's called Evergreen Clip of the Day.
	Evergreen Clip of the Day.
	All right.
	Do I just go straight into it?
	Yeah, hit it.
	That looks great.
	What is that?
	That was it.
	Yeah, but what was it?
	Somebody saying that's great and a guy sighing.
	Oh, okay.
	Wow, John.
	You know, you must have been up late.
	I worked on that one.
	Burning the midnight oil, eh?
	Wow.
	Okay.
	I said it better before I went over the...
	I'm going to have to equalize some of these things a little bit more.
	Yeah, just a little bit.
	Well, anyway, in the morning to you, John Charles Dvorak.
	In the morning to you, Adam Curry.
	In the morning to all ships at sea, boots on the ground, subs in the water, feet in the air, and in the morning, a great in the morning to all our fantastic knights who support the show as well as anyone could expect.
	Yes, and all of our...
	Artists who are tirelessly working for us and all the rains in the sticks, which we'll be talking about in our donation segment as the rain stick experiment has been somewhat successful.
	Yeah, but not there.
	In Austin?
	It's been raining off and on for days.
	It has?
	Yeah, and not crazy rain.
	It did rain here.
	It rained...
	Did I make it rain in Silicon Valley where you said it never rains?
	No, it didn't rain.
	Oh, I thought you said it did rain.
	No, I'm sorry.
	No, no, it didn't rain.
	You're hearing things now.
	Well, of course, what really did happen is, you know, I shook that stick all the way from Salt Lake City and that, of course, caused...
	Don't you normally do that anyway?
	Yeah.
	And that, of course, caused the...
	The tropical storm now headed towards the Republican National Convention.
	I'm pretty sure I'm responsible for that.
	Normally I would have blamed it on harp.
	Yeah, right.
	Hey, that's just the good news about the stick.
	Is there's no more harp?
	Normally we have to listen to the harp bull crap, we can listen to the stick bull crap.
	I've been watching...
	So a couple of things happening.
	You have to understand what's going on in the media in America.
	It's very funny.
	Because everyone was all prepared.
	We've got this big convention in Florida and Tampa where there's this big show where we all pretend like we're going to nominate Romney.
	And of course, it's already set in stone.
	And there's lots of stories about how Ron Paul has gotten completely screwed over this whole deal.
	And now because of the tropical...
	I don't even know that he got a speaking gig like they demanded.
	Well, what happened is they changed the rules.
	It's very interesting, if you're interested.
	In order to get rid of his delegates, they literally just said, you're no longer a delegate in like five states or something, even more than that.
	They just changed the rules.
	Apparently there's this rule that in order to be nominated from the floor, it's a complicated process.
	You have to have delegates in at least five states.
	And Ron Paul, of course, has delegates in five states.
	Even though they tried to remove these delegates...
	And then they said, well, we have a new rule.
	It has to be ten states instead of five.
	And it was a big fight.
	And apparently that has changed something somehow.
	Anyway, so it's just screwed.
	It's just screwed.
	So the media...
	You know, they're all set up.
	They've got their trucks down there.
	They're flying, you know, Anderson Poopers on the jet.
	You know, everybody's good to go.
	And it's like, oh, we don't have any, no lineup for Sunday night.
	You know, it's delayed an extra day.
	C-SPAN, of course, you know, all they could do is just roll out hours and hours of previous RNC convention speeches, which I have to say I watched some of it.
	Did you watch any of the old speeches?
	God, no.
	It was very interesting because it's all the same stuff.
	Like freedom, American way, and just a bunch of douchebag elites.
	Just in black and white instead of color.
	But of course, you know, it's a problem.
	And so we got to, you know, I can just see the newsrooms like, what are we going to do?
	Hey, man, we got to improvise.
	You got a package?
	Yeah, I got a package.
	Explain what a package is, John.
	A package is a separately produced piece that's dropped in during a report.
	So you'll bring a reporter on and say, well, I'm in Lebanon, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	And then they'll cut to the package, which is something he actually sat down and edited and produced and did a voiceover.
	And generally speaking, you can spot these things because the voice of the guy who produced the package changes.
	This is a pet peeve of mine, by the way.
	Yeah, you've talked about this in the past.
	It's annoying.
	And I've seen people produce packages, and they'll be out in the field, and they've got a lavalier on, and they're yakking away, and then they, you know...
	And then they go to the package and then they sound like this.
	Because they're working a big expensive mic in a soundproof booth.
	And even if they run, you know, kind of ambience behind them, which they like to do, which is where you record just the sound of the area.
	It still doesn't sound right.
	And I don't know why they don't produce the package with the exact same voice.
	It's always baffled me.
	Anyway, so this package comes out, blah, blah, blah, and it ends.
	And then you come back to the guy who's out there reporting.
	Back to you, Brian.
	Wolf.
	So, Wolf had to introduce all these packages.
	Can you guess what package was the one that caught my eye?
	I don't know what packages they showed, but what?
	The massive storm that could become Hurricane Isaac may or may not bear down on Tampa, but the Florida city is sprucing up anyway, and that includes...
	The strip clubs.
	As soon as John Zarella is joining us now with more on what's going on at the convention.
	Strip clubs, explain.
	Explain.
	Why all the anticipation?
	Well, an adult industry trade association says the Republicans spend the money.
	An informal survey by the Association of Club Executives.
	Informal survey.
	This is the news that CNN is bringing.
	Wait a minute, get this right.
	Informal survey.
	Strippers, strip clubs, informal survey.
	I cut this down from four minutes, by the way.
	During their conventions in Minnesota and New York, Republicans spent $150 per person at adult clubs.
	The Democrats only $50 per person in Boston and Denver.
	The RNC told us it's focused on having a great convention and nominating Mitt Romney.
	By the way, this will hurt you when you hear the numbers.
	Club dancers are counting on the supposed big dollar Republicans to make it rain dollars.
	Go-Go, she's the one in the middle, thinks this will be bigger than the Super Bowls she's worked.
	A thousand dollars an hour?
	That would be like, I'm really optimistic.
	A thousand an hour?
	Yeah, that would be...
	For like, how many hours?
	Well, I'll work as long as my body can take.
	That's just like us.
	John, we'll do the show.
	I'll work as long as my body can take.
	A thousand bucks an hour, I would think.
	John C. Dvorak, Adam Curry.
	We'll work as long as our bodies can take it.
	That's what we're going to do.
	So, yeah, the Republicans spend more.
	They're not like the chintzy Democrats.
	And by the way, the chintzy Democrats most of the time obviously try to stiff them as they saw with the Secret Service.
	Yeah, they want to even pay 50 bucks.
	They want to even pay, hey, go home.
	I'm not going to give you that.
	So there was another package, and this one was also, I had to cut it down severely, but besides strippers, what else can we expect in, do you think, at the Republican National Convention in Florida?
	Well, there's obviously strippers and limos are the two big things in all these conventions.
	Yeah, but that's not it.
	I don't know.
	What, good eating?
	Good food?
	Some gourmet meals?
	Some nice Bordeaux wine?
	Maybe some California Cabernet served at the proper temperature?
	Isaac certainly isn't the only potential threat authorities are watching in Tampa.
	The other serious concern?
	Anarchist!
	Anarchist!
	It's the exact same lead-in, too.
	I should play him side by side.
	Hold on a second.
	That's really funny.
	It's the exact same lead-in.
	He goes from Isaac.
	Yeah, listen to this.
	Here's the stripper one.
	The massive storm that could become Hurricane Isaac may or may not bear down on Tampa, but the Florida city is sprucing up anyway, and that includes...
	The strip clubs.
	Isaac certainly isn't the only potential threat authorities are watching in Tampa.
	The other serious concern?
	Anarchists!
	It's the same lead-in!
	It's the same lead-in!
	I have a lot of variety of writing.
	Anarchists!
	Anarchists!
	Anarchists are all over the place.
	Here they come.
	Let's listen to the package on anarchists.
	In an intelligence bulletin obtained by CNN, the FBI and Department of Homeland Security warned...
	I'm sorry, what she meant to say was in a propaganda document expressly given to CNN by the Department of Ministry of Truth and Propaganda...
	State and local law enforcement that anarchists are targeting the Democratic National Convention in Charlotte, North Carolina.
	Now, what is an anarchist?
	Because, you know, there's a difference between a terrorist and an anarchist.
	You can look it up on the Wikipedia, but anarchists obviously is a person that believes in no government, technically.
	But they tend to be so disorganized that they can't really accomplish anything, but they like to cause trouble.
	But don't anarchists typically wear scarves and riot helmets and go, pig, you pig?
	Well, they do that.
	And they throw bottles and stuff?
	They throw garbage cans through windows.
	Right, right.
	But they're not typically like...
	Using IEDs and stuff, do you think?
	I wouldn't, no.
	I don't think they have the wherewithal of using IEDs.
	Oh, you didn't receive the memo from Department of Homeland Security.
	No, I don't get my State Department memo.
	Two, and they could even try to use improvised explosive devices, IEDs, the type of homemade bomb insurgents use in Afghanistan.
	Watch.
	I love that.
	There is nothing better than accentuating a package report With some sound effects.
	Of course, you didn't see the video, but they actually cut to an explosion in the desert.
	Just what's going to happen in Tampa.
	By the way, I think, in fact, the anarchists were all discussing IUDs.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So, just in case there are any anarchists who show up there in Florida...
	You know, the kind of guys who throw bottles and shoot AK-47s just like Afghanistan.
	See, that's how you do a report.
	The bulletin says since March, the FBI has had intelligence indicating that individuals from New York plan to travel to Tampa and attempt to close all of the Tampa Bay Area bridges during the convention next week.
	The groups are likely to focus on critical infrastructure outside of the security perimeter, the bulletin says, because they expect the main venue to be tightly controlled.
	Is it right, right, right?
	Extremists have a history of trying to disrupt major events.
	Now, these are extremists now, so we're ramping it up.
	They've changed.
	But wait, but wait, because you know what?
	Anarchist is actually synonymous for something else.
	She'll mention it in a moment.
	It's very apparent.
	Like the G20 meeting in Pittsburgh in 2009.
	Using tactics like blocking streets, intersections, and bridges.
	Don't walk that street, you anarchist!
	And sparking violent confrontations with police.
	Our mission is to ensure that everyone has a safe platform on which to express themselves.
	Thursday, in an undisclosed location, the Secret Service showed reporters their multi-agency communications center.
	It's like a press gaggle.
	They're all sitting there in the undisclosed location, their top secret command center.
	Where law enforcement officials will coordinate their operation to keep Tampa safe during the convention.
	Extremists claim they're ready to.
	Here it comes.
	You have an opportunity to fight back at the Republican National Convention.
	Apparently, extremists are a computer-generated voice now.
	What?
	Yeah.
	What's that?
	That's anonymous, of course.
	They show the picture of the anonymous mask.
	The, you know, V for Vendetta.
	Didn't they ran a computer?
	They ran Doug?
	Doug is an extremist, dammit!
	How you fight back is up to you.
	Now, a law enforcement official tells CNN there is no specific threat to the convention.
	Wait a minute.
	Wait a minute.
	The whole thing was...
	Don't put that at the end of the package.
	It's just bull crap.
	The whole package is junk.
	Yeah.
	And they're not watching any specific anarchists who...
	What happened to the New York extremists?
	I don't understand now.
	...they think might be trying to mount an attack.
	But they do say they have to be prepared based...
	How can anyone watch this crap?
	Well, hello, I'll do that until my body gives out, John.
	That's what we do here.
	On what they learned, the lessons they learned at the Republican convention four years ago, and also on an alleged anarchist plot this spring in which a bridge near Cleveland was supposed to be blown up, and there were, by the way, Wolf, arrests in that.
	Yeah.
	Did it get blown up?
	That case.
	I remember that case.
	Thanks very much, Joe Doherty.
	I remember that case from the last acting class I took.
	What a crock of crap.
	This is just, it's a humiliation.
	The public, of course, nobody watches CNN, but there's enough people that do it.
	I watch it for the messaging.
	It's really important.
	It's important.
	It's important to watch, because then at least you know what the memo was.
	I mean, did you see the memo?
	No.
	Did you receive the memo?
	No, they won't send us the memo.
	You know, we could probably get on the press release.
	That would be cool.
	I'll look into it, getting on some of those mailing lists, and I'll get the memo.
	Sure.
	Sure.
	John C. DeRoy.
	Yeah, no, they're pretty liberal sending the stuff out.
	By the way, I want to say in the morning to the chat room, all of our human resources there lined up, charged up, ready to go, which is nice to see once again, even in the dog days of summer.
	Now you mentioned that.
	It seems that they're getting a little more liberal in general on telling us about stuff that I think normally we wouldn't know.
	For instance, now this of course was from Danger Room, which is a spokeshole portion of Wired.com for the military-industrial complex.
	I don't know if you saw this report.
	Maybe?
	Yeah.
	DARPA looks to make cyber war routine with secret plan X. I mean, they really need new writers over at Danger Room.
	The Pentagon top research arm is unveiling a new classified cyber warfare project.
	But it's not about building the next Stuxnet.
	DARPA swears.
	Instead, the just introduced Plan X is, couldn't they come up with a better name, is designed to make online strikes a more routine part of U.S. military operations.
	That will make the son of Stuxnet easier to pull off to, as DARPA puts it, dominate the cyber battle space.
	So I read that piece and I'm like, okay, whatever.
	But then I saw on Stars and Stripes, which is...
	Yeah, it used to be.
	Maybe it still is a paper.
	I think it might be.
	Yeah.
	So they have, I think it's stripes.com or starsstripes.com.
	They had a speech by General Mills.
	About cornflakes?
	Yeah, that General Mills.
	Richard P. Mills.
	Who is a major general, and he's a Marine.
	He's a very well-loved Marine, I might say.
	He was selected to the command of the Marine Expeditionary Force.
	It's kind of the forward-operating guys deployed to Afghanistan in April of 2010.
	And he took control of all Cybercom initiatives that were taking place there.
	And he had like a 20-minute speech.
	All about the importance of cyber warfare and how the Marines have used it.
	And I think he said something here that typically, if you're a subordinate, you would not be allowed to talk about this in public.
	And it was surprising to me that he mentioned it.
	But his whole speech, and this is a guy...
	You know, who probably doesn't know how to work is Blackberry.
	Because you can tell just in the things he's saying, which makes it even that more funny when, you know, he's the guy with his hand on the Cyber Project X button or whatever the hell it is.
	I know the type.
	This is very interesting to listen to him speak.
	I've cut this down to a minute and a half.
	We recognize that in the cyber domain, we're in a period of convergence.
	If you look at events like the Arab Spring, the common theme there is both a combination of physical resistance to the state and being, but also the use of the new social media weapons.
	Social media weapons!
	Wow!
	That's right, baby.
	I got my Twitter pointed at you, bitch, and I'm loaded.
	Social media weapons.
	To exploit that resistance movement.
	Social media, streamlining video.
	Streamlining video.
	This is new.
	We've got to get on that tip, John.
	He said streamlining video.
	Wait, but there's more.
	This guy doesn't know anything, obviously, if he says that.
	Streamlining.
	Streamlining video.
	Hey, he's the Major General.
	Shut up.
	He's loved.
	Streamlining video.
	The YouTube.
	The YouTube.
	YouTube.
	The YouTube.
	Hey, citizen, put down that YouTube.
	It's not a rain stick, Major General.
	We've all seen the use that's been made to overthrow dictators and to be used against forces not unfriendly to the resistance fighters.
	As Bob Dylan once told me, he said, the times are changing.
	That's like you making a Green Day reference.
	I mean, please.
	The times, they are changing.
	Thank you, Major General.
	Did he tell you that personally, or did you hear the song?
	He says, as Bob Dylan told me.
	I was hanging out with Bob one day.
	And Bob said, hey, General, the times, they are changing.
	And then the General said...
	Hey, wait a minute, General, I think I've got...
	I've got a song!
	This should be a tune!
	Remember that during joint operations in Somalia in the early 90s, the preferred method of communication for our adversaries, the Somali warlords, was the burning stack of tires.
	This method was not very precise.
	That's a...
	You okay?
	Isn't that good?
	Isn't this fantastic?
	It's unbelievable.
	But it was very visible, it was easy to use, and it made sense to him.
	If you were on the ground in those days, you could see that smoke in the sky.
	Telling you, or telling the enemy, that you were on your way.
	That was confusing.
	It worked.
	Well, today those very crude forms of communication are being replaced with more focused, individual forms of communication that blend in with routine daily conversations.
	Much more difficult to see.
	Much more difficult to know that he knows you're coming.
	He works in chat rooms.
	He works on blogs.
	He tweets.
	He uses Facebook.
	Ooh!
	This is where they are.
	The enemy uses Facebook.
	He tweets with his social media weapon.
	All of which is a challenge to us.
	I'm troubled by recent reports of intercepted UAV feeds that demonstrates that even the low-end technology available to some of our adversaries can be used within a network to exploit and disrupt and destroy.
	Funny that didn't come up in the whole debate about, I don't know, allowing drones over the United States as of 2015.
	I didn't hear anyone say, oh yeah, in Afghanistan, those sand bunnies just interrupted our stream.
	Our streamlining video from the drones.
	Never heard that before, but there's more.
	When you add the reports that we see in the daily papers that our critical national infrastructure is being exploited, we understand this threat is both foreign, both domestic, both from state, non-state, and from terrorist organizations.
	Squirrel!
	I can tell you that as the commander on Afghanistan in the...
	Afghanistan!
	Yeah, that's the way you're supposed to say it, by the way.
	He says that consistently throughout the whole speech.
	Afghanistan.
	It's Iran, Iraq, and Afghanistan.
	Afghanistan.
	Now, listen, this is what I wanted you to hear.
	What he says about his experience in Afghanistan that I don't think is appropriate for him to say, but he did it anyway.
	I was able to use my cyber operations against my adversary with great impact.
	I was able to get inside his nets.
	Who's that inside my nets?
	What are you doing in my nets, bitch?
	Infect his command and control, and in fact defend myself against his almost constant incursions to get inside my wire.
	Get out of my wire!
	To affect my operations.
	I think that's big that he said that.
	So basically, in 2010, he was performing cyber warfare, getting inside the enemy's nets.
	What nets?
	The enemy's nets.
	His nets.
	What nets?
	His wires.
	It's a bunch of...
	Have you ever seen these reports from the field in Afghanistan?
	Afghanistan.
	These guys can't even shoot a gun.
	Afghanistan.
	Yeah, well, I'm not using that one.
	I don't care.
	I like it.
	I think it's good.
	Afghanistan.
	Afghanistan.
	Get out of my...
	You know, he should call Bob Dylan and say, Bob, by the time I gave you that great idea for the song...
	I think you should do a new one.
	Get out of my wire.
	Get out of my wire.
	Get out of my nets.
	Get out of my nets, bitch.
	It's crazy.
	I gotta talk to Harry Pilgrim.
	I think he was Marine Cyber Command.
	He's retired now.
	He might tell me some stuff.
	Yeah, you should absolutely do that.
	He's retired and he sends me notes like, hey, I'm drunk.
	I haven't found a job yet, which is kind of cool.
	So now, since we're talking about this sort of thing, this spying on everything, the story that's the funniest I think I've heard, I mean, you can't not want to stop laughing, about the actual backfiring of if you see something, say something.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You can play the theme for me.
	Oh, okay.
	If you see something, say something.
	Okay, so I have this.
	This was a 911 report.
	Because if you see something, you say something, right?
	Yes.
	Well, play this and here's what can happen under these circumstances.
	Well, now you need to help me with which one it is.
	It says, if you see something, say something.
	Yeah, but then you should...
	I don't have that.
	Oh.
	What?
	What?
	Just do S-S-S-S. I came across an apartment where there's some suspicious activity.
	Like suspicious?
	Suspicious in the sense that the apartment has about...
	It has no furniture except two beds, has no clothing, has New York City Police Department radios.
	Really?
	There's computers in there.
	There's what?
	There's computer hardware, software, you know, just laying around.
	Uh-huh.
	There's pictures of terrorists.
	There's pictures of our neighboring buildings that they have.
	In New Brunswick?
	Yes.
	On the tape from June 2009, the building and superintendent in New Jersey told the 911 dispatcher he discovered a suspicious apartment as part of this routine check.
	Adam, talk more about this.
	Well, this was an apartment in New Brunswick, New Jersey that the NYPD Intelligence Division had been using as a base of operations to essentially spy on citizens of New Jersey.
	Because they were breathing?
	So apparently, this was all suppressed until recently.
	This guy got all this information.
	And so apparently because they sent out to see this suspicious activity because they got terrorist pictures and they got no clothes, just beds.
	The FBI was called out and police were called out to surround the place and catch the bad guys.
	Well, this doesn't surprise me.
	It's a fiasco.
	It doesn't surprise me this is happening because we're now ramming it into our children's heads from a very young age.
	Witness this local news report from North Carolina.
	That 10 to 15 minute school bus ride really does determine the rest of a child's day.
	If it's chaotic, if they're afraid, if they're being picked on, then what about the child that says they're walking to the bus stop and doesn't come to school?
	And with that in mind, Winston-Salem Forsyth County Schools, they're placing anti-bullying ads on their buses using the slogan, See Something, Say Something.
	Kids will be able to call the phone number that you see on that ad to report bullying.
	There you go.
	Wow.
	Uh-huh.
	You taught me.
	I knew I would.
	You missed it on that one.
	You fell into my trap.
	I wasn't even ready to roll it out yet.
	So in that same regard, you know, this Empire State shooting, the Empire State building shooting.
	Yeah, this thing was...
	Well, I agree.
	I have a bunch of little clips.
	Okay.
	They tried to make it into a story when, in fact, it was a murder.
	Yeah, it was absolutely a murder.
	Yeah, one guy with a gun decided to kill somebody he hates.
	Yeah.
	And in the process, the police end up shooting a bunch of people.
	No, I would say they ended up shooting everyone, including the guy.
	Well, when they shot the shooter, but the shooter had already shot his target.
	Yeah, but then all the wounded...
	And he would have been out of there, because if you listen to the report...
	Well, here, let's play a couple of these clips, and then we'll talk about it.
	Okay.
	Let's start with...
	Let's see, I got Empire State Real Story, shooting, state shooting.
	Let's start with Empire State Shooting.
	Okay, here we go.
	That's the intro.
	Yeah.
	In New York today, a gunman opened fire near the Empire State Building at the height of this morning's rush hour.
	The shooter killed one person and nine were injured before police shot the disgruntled worker dead.
	The BBC's Michelle Fleury has the details from New York.
	Mayhem surrounded one of the world's best-known landmarks, the Empire State Building today, after the third mass shooting in the US this summer.
	Oh, right.
	Did you hear that?
	Yeah, the third mass shooting in the U.S. this summer.
	Can I just play Ray Kelly?
	I don't know if you have Ray Kelly.
	Do you have Ray Kelly?
	He came in at the end.
	I think I left him out.
	Go ahead.
	Okay, so this mass shooting was perpetrated by the New York City Police Department, and he admits it.
	As far as the nine people, other than, of course, the two, the victim who was shot on 33rd Street, obviously, he was shot by the perpetrator, but it appears that all nine of the victims were struck either by fragments or by bullets fired by the police.
	So the police have this mass shooting on their conscience.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, but so the BBC's got this story and they have to propagate the anti-gun formula.
	War on ammo, of course.
	So it's the war on ammo.
	So they come out with these, so the packages come out and it's like, are you kidding me?
	Play Empire State shooting so-called witness.
	Yeah.
	I found a couple of these too.
	I like this.
	A construction worker who witnessed the incident described the chaos.
	We could see right down.
	We saw everything.
	We saw all the bodies laid out.
	We saw all the cops coming.
	We saw all the bullets on the floor.
	Everything.
	Oh, the cops were still coming.
	He didn't see anything.
	He says, I saw, yeah, I saw some bodies.
	I saw this.
	I saw that.
	This is not telling us anything.
	This is like a bullcrap witness.
	And then it gets worse with this scary, oh, let's terrorize the public little package.
	Empire State could have been me clip.
	Others were relieved just to be alive.
	I heard multiple gunshots, and I heard one single gunshot, and then it was pretty surreal because there was no screaming.
	It was just slow motion.
	I saw the girl that was running next to me go down, and that could have been me.
	She was hitting the leg.
	Could have been me!
	Could have been me!
	She was hitting the leg!
	I had a witness, I had a witness, who changed her story later on Fox.
	Oh yeah, this is how it works when you do all these pre-interviews and you get people on and the producer essentially coerces you or tells you what to say.
	Here's the witness at first when she's first on the air on Fox News.
	Outside the Empire State Building.
	But for now, here is what Jackie experienced on her work today, one hour ago.
	I was crossing the street, and someone actually fell at my feet because they were shot.
	I didn't realize that at the time and I kept walking and I looked around and there were just people laying around all on the street.
	Okay, so I kept walking after this lady fell down.
	Then she comes back on the air later.
	Her story has changed.
	What did you tell them, Jackie?
	I told them, I just recounted my experience as I was crossing the street.
	I heard four gunshots.
	A woman fell at my feet, and I honestly got nervous and kind of hid behind a planter for a little while.
	When the gunshots fired, I got back up and I tried to help the woman, tried to help her.
	So first she basically steps over the lady.
	Which is probably what happened in New York.
	Yeah, of course.
	Whatever.
	And then she's like, I tried to prop her head up.
	I tried to comfort her.
	I hid behind a thing.
	That's terrible.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, so I have what I consider the real story, or the one that can be easily deconstructed to be the joke story, which is Empire State real story clip.
	Dressed in a business suit, 53-year-old Jeffrey Johnson shot dead a former colleague before being killed by police in a shootout in which nine others were injured.
	He pulled his.45-caliber semi-automatic pistol from his bag and fired on the officers, who returned fire, killing him.
	Right.
	Okay, so here's what happened.
	The guy shoots his buddy or some guy he had to kill, so he shoots him.
	Now he puts his gun in the bag, obviously, after the shooting.
	There's somebody reports, hey, there's a guy that shots this guy and he's laying here dead.
	And the cop says, well, where is he?
	He says, there he is.
	That's him there walking down the street with a bag.
	And so then the cops go...
	They make a bunch of racket about it.
	A bunch of them come in from every which way.
	They're crawling with cops around this area.
	They're all over the place, mostly, you know, doing what...
	Not policing, but looking for an opportunity like this.
	And they all surround the guy in some horrible way.
	The guy freaks, pulls his gun out, because that's what they say.
	And because he pulled his gun out, they started firing at him, missing and downing nine citizens.
	I mean, there's other ways of handling this.
	This was poor.
	And then, of course, now it's used as, ooh, another mass shooting, which is bull crap.
	I mean, this is just the media lying to us.
	Yeah.
	And I think you're absolutely right.
	There are many ways they could have handled that.
	We still have yet to hear from the actual construction worker who alerted the police, because even during Bloomberg's press conference, someone said, oh, this guy's a hero.
	Where is he?
	Well, you know...
	Next question, please.
	So we don't even know where that guy is.
	Personally, I thought it was pretty interesting how they had his name, the whole situation, an hour and a half, maybe two hours after the shooting, and they were releasing all that information right off the bat.
	Which is unusual, since the guy is dead.
	Very unusual.
	And we don't really know anything about the co-worker.
	Other than, I think they had lawsuits and they had restraining orders against each other.
	So this was an ongoing feud.
	Probably this guy was on Chantix.
	Something like that.
	No, seriously.
	Or on Prozac or some other kind of psychotropic drug.
	Yeah, he could have done the same thing with a machete.
	How do you even get a machete?
	You get them at the hardware store.
	They're everywhere.
	Alright, do we want to play this final clip, or are we done?
	What clip was this?
	You have Final Empire State.
	I do?
	Yeah.
	Oh.
	Oh, yeah, might as well.
	I think this is the one that throws in the gun meme, I believe.
	The scourge of gun control has been at the forefront after shootings this summer at a temple in Wisconsin and a cinema in Colorado.
	This morning, Midtown Manhattan had a dramatic first-hand encounter with the problem.
	Michelle Fleury, BBC News, Manhattan.
	Yeah, BBC, screw you.
	But you know, her usage is wrong, which I thought would make me laugh when I first heard this.
	She says the scourge of gun control.
	That means gun control itself is a scourge.
	That's what she said.
	What is the definition of scourge?
	Well, let's look it up.
	Let's look it up on the book of knowledge.
	Scourge.
	Scourge.
	Oh, it started as a whip.
	As a what?
	As a whip.
	Someone as a punishment.
	Scourge them.
	Oh.
	Huh.
	A source of widespread dreadful affliction and devastation.
	Scourge.
	Scourge.
	A means of inflicting severe suffering and vengeance.
	Oh.
	So the scourge.
	Of gun control, meaning...
	The horrible vengeance.
	Gun control is the problem.
	That's what she's saying.
	There's your proper BBC for you.
	Yeah.
	It's interesting you bring that up because the BBC also had an incredible bogative report on Syria.
	They found all these bodies.
	You read about this, right?
	This is the worst Saturday ever in Syrian's history.
	400 bodies I'm reading now.
	Oh, it's terrible, terrible.
	But if you listen to the report from the BBC, it's all, you know, can't vet the video, alleged, didn't really see it, kind of, we think.
	It's just propaganda.
	And we've seen the bodies before, which in all likelihood were old bodies that just dragged into one spot just to make a good video shot and a good story.
	And now it's literally just whatever they say will print.
	Oh yeah, I'm sorry.
	Yeah, that's some gunfire in there.
	Government heavy armour unleashing its firepower in what looks like a residential...
	What looks like a residential area.
	I mean, you can't even...
	You don't even know where it is.
	What looks like a residential area.
	...the neighborhood of Dorea on the southwestern edge of the capital, Damascus.
	This is unverified footage.
	State television said Dorea was being purified of what it described as terrorist remnants.
	It's all what other people describe.
	But after days of bombardment of the area, opposition activists say another government massacre has occurred here.
	The opposition says another government.
	Not like we're reporting, we have evidence.
	They say more than 200 bodies have been found in houses and basements.
	Most, according to them, appear to have been shot at close range.
	According to them...
	These fleeting images are fleeting images...
	...all that we can show, taken from the video released by the opposition, which does appear to show many bodies lined up in a mosque.
	It does appear to show that.
	I mean, this drives me crazy when I hear this.
	This should drive everybody crazy.
	I'd look at this like...
	This is so poor.
	And people pay for this in England.
	They pay for this, and they're proud of it.
	The opposition says most of the victims were civilians.
	The opposition says...
	Whatever pressure the Syrian government is now under in dealing with the rebels, the country's vice president has made his first public appearance in weeks, seen here holding talks with a visiting Iranian delegation.
	There had been rumors that the veteran's senior official had defected.
	While the government and the rebels have been battling for control in the outskirts of Damascus, this has also been the scene in recent days in the vital northern city of Aleppo.
	So what they do now, and you have to watch this video in the show notes, 438.nashownotes.com, they show a plane flying over, and then they cut to an explosion on the ground.
	They show the plane, reverse angle.
	It's the same shot, just flying the other direction.
	Mirrored.
	And then they show the same explosion again.
	And they say, well, they're bombing from the air.
	It's been another focus of continued intense clashes, with the Syrian Air Force again also apparently heavily involved in the action.
	These scenes of destruction and what now seems like a relentless military momentum being pursued by both sides appear to leave little room or hope for diplomacy right now.
	Nick Childs, BBC News.
	Really disgusting.
	That's totally disgusting.
	As a counter, play this Syria clip that I have, which is the same.
	This is a different propaganda ministry telling a different story.
	On Syrian state TV, news reports describe the operations of brave army units in Aleppo pursuing terrorist gangs and mercenaries.
	Here the reporter says the Syrian army inflicted major losses and killed dozens of them.
	From now on, these glimpses of Syria's war won't be amplified by the UN monitoring team, which is pulling out.
	More of them departed today.
	From afar, President Obama and David Cameron have warned they may rethink their non-intervention strategy if President Assad dares use chemical weapons.
	But for opposition sympathizers, that's little comfort.
	Yeah, the old chemical weapons.
	We haven't heard that one before.
	There's a comment I have to make.
	One, they're in Damascus shooting some of this stuff.
	They have the UN guys.
	They're in one of the ritziest hotels I've ever seen.
	This part of the country is not in war.
	And it's just a beautiful place with the nice marble floors and fantastic...
	And so then the UN guys all get in their Toyota...
	They had these Toyota...
	Land Cruiser.
	4x4s, like a Land Rover.
	Land Cruiser.
	With these special mirrors and some other weird shit hooked to it.
	It was just a very weird looking car.
	But they looked really expensive.
	And in the convoy, they just drove themselves to the airport, which I suppose they put the...
	Or to the docks.
	Because they're not going to leave these cars behind.
	They're gorgeous.
	You know, I mean, this whole thing is theater of the worst sort.
	I was just looking at the chatroom, Dan Barker.
	I've got to quote him.
	The BBC is amazing.
	I think Korea's wrong.
	It has its bad reporters, but Newsnight is amazing.
	Amazing, I tell you.
	Here's how you put a BBC report together.
	Well, I'm here standing in Syria with some unvetted fleeting footage and, oh, there comes a jet and I see the jet and it looks like, oh yes, they're definitely bombing.
	Yes, they are definitely bombing the people of Damascus and, oh, here comes a gunship, a helicopter gunship.
	Oh yes, he's killed them too.
	And, oh boy, there's another airplane.
	Oh yes.
	Well, clearly we have to get rid of him.
	Please.
	So here's...
	Well, we're on the BBC. So I'm watching this report, and after it was over, I have two parts to this.
	This is the Audi commercial.
	Oh, no.
	On the BBC. Wait a minute.
	I thought they're non-commercial.
	Well, here's the report.
	You tell me this isn't a commercial.
	Play part one, then play part two.
	It was a high-speed chase, more at home in the movies than in real life.
	Ben Westwood drove at speeds of up to 180 miles an hour while trying to evade police in Britain.
	The 33-year-old is the fastest driver ever to be prosecuted in the United Kingdom, and today he was jailed for nine years.
	The BBC's Jeremy Cook has the story.
	A desperate high-speed chase, a stolen Audi burning down the M6. It speeds over 180 miles an hour.
	Here, the driver tries to leave the motorway, spots the police stinger roadblock, turns, and speeds back down the slip road.
	Stinger deploy, stinger deploy, vehicle stops, vehicle stops.
	Going the wrong way into the face of police pursuit cars.
	We're going wrong way down the slip, way down the slip.
	The chase lasted for over an hour.
	The souped-up Audi RS5 setting a blistering...
	Wait a minute.
	That's completely unnecessary.
	Well, wait until you hear part two.
	That has no bearing on the story.
	First of all, a souped-up Audi RS5? How does he even know that?
	All I know is when you listen to part two, that's when it dawned on me this is an Audi commercial.
	The gang quickly moving in to steal cigarettes.
	Easy to shift on the black market.
	By the time he reached this part of the M6, Westwood was already clocking a record-breaking 180 miles an hour.
	The standard-issued BMWs in pursuit had no chance of keeping up.
	The court was told he almost outran the police helicopter.
	Well, first of all, okay, a couple things.
	Wait, wait, before you say this, don't forget they're cigarette thieves.
	Yeah.
	A couple things.
	One, if you're doing 180 miles per hour, you are outrunning just about every single helicopter there is.
	I mean, that's very fast for a helicopter.
	And I'm pretty sure they use Eurocopters in general, which have a max top speed of about 140 knots.
	So it doesn't surprise me.
	But of course, you know, he has twists and turns in the road.
	But then to...
	Say, hey, you left the BMW in the dust.
	What a pussy car.
	My goodness.
	That's very interesting.
	Well, we don't have commercials on this program.
	Instead, we've opted for something known as the value for value proposition.
	And the way we keep our show going is not by being compromised, clearly, as the BBC is, but by taking donations from our producers, also known as our listeners.
	And I think we have, I see we have at least two executive producers today.
	I think we should mention them before we move on with the program.
	Yeah, actually we have two executive producers and two associates we want to put up.
	Or three.
	Three associates.
	Four associates.
	Whoa.
	It's going on and on.
	Gary, or Gray Simunich.
	Simunich.
	Simunich.
	Just check, I've attained my second executive production in my knighthood.
	I feel obliged to tell you that.
	I spent 25 years as a consulting meteorologist.
	So I offer this following fact.
	Weather is climate over the long term.
	Long being 30 years.
	It's as simple as that.
	Ta-da!
	Be-be!
	Give me a douchebag for my 70 or so co-workers who have absolutely no clue as to what was really going on in the good USA and karma for the US Constitution.
	Give him the douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	Maybe this third request will make all the difference.
	Keep up the good work so I look forward to hearing what you both have to say each and every week.
	He's in West Chicago and he sent in 582.
	That is very cool.
	I'm not sure what the number means.
	I think to round up his knighthood.
	Okay, well here's some knight karma for you.
	We'll be knighting you later on.
	You've got karma.
	Cool, thank you.
	And then Brian Ferguson in Irvine gave 438 to commemorate show 438.
	Congratulations to him.
	It has been a while since I donated.
	The last few shows have been awesome.
	Keep it classy.
	Well, you know why that is, don't you?
	Because...
	We are...
	The best podcast in the universe!
	And that's a fact.
	William Bowman in Port...
	Hunemine?
	Hunemine.
	Hunemine.
	It's California.
	You should know.
	I know.
	I know all the crazy California names of this one.
	It befuddles me.
	$201.99.
	He'll be an associate executive producer along with Sir Robert Goschko at Sherwood Park, Alberta.
	$200.
	And I want to thank him for sending me a pair of headphones.
	Oh, really?
	What kind of headphones did you receive?
	V-Modas.
	Custom V-Modas.
	Nice.
	Are you wearing them?
	No.
	I wear them for the Horowitz show.
	I don't need to wear them for the show.
	But I will...
	They have the No Agenda logo on them.
	Oh, you gotta send me a picture or tweet a picture of that.
	That's cool.
	Yeah, definitely.
	Is it just like cut out himself and just pasted it on?
	No, no, no.
	This is apparently the...
	They do a custom?
	V-Moda's website slash custom.
	They'll put any image you want on certain phones.
	Let me take a look at that.
	It's V-Moda's?
	Is that what it is?
	V-Moda.
	V-Moda.
	Very outstanding.
	They're the ones that make some of the best earbuds.
	Especially the...
	Which ones do you have?
	Which ones?
	The V-Moda True Blood?
	Oh, I don't have it.
	No, I'd have to go downstairs and get the box.
	Where are the headphones?
	Do you already sell them on eBay?
	You only have the box?
	No, they have no agenda logo.
	They're my headphones.
	Everybody in the family is already trying to glom onto them.
	That's cool.
	Very nice.
	Yeah, very cool.
	Sir Paul Schneider in Edmonton, Alberta, $200.
	Credit me as Sir Paul Schneider.
	I just saw the pictures of the official demo car, and I'm disappointed I won't have time to see it in person.
	Yeah, if you go to...
	This is Sir Kelly's son.
	And his son Dallas.
	Go to democar.curry.com.
	You'll crack up.
	I tweeted these pictures earlier.
	democar.curry.com.
	democar.curry.com.
	So he's in a demolition derby.
	Oh, that kind of demo car.
	Yeah, so for those of you who don't know, how awesome is this?
	Yeah.
	So a demolition derby is where you essentially bring an old clunker and you have to do a couple things like pull out the gas tank and make it all safe.
	A Lincoln is preferred.
	Is that true?
	A big Lincoln, yeah, from the 70s.
	Oh, yeah, yeah.
	A Lincoln Mark 7 or whatever, yeah.
	Some big heavy thing.
	What is this car?
	What does he have here?
	This is a Pontiac.
	Or an Oldsmobile.
	It's like an Oldsmobile.
	But it's really cool.
	He has, on the roof, crackpot, buzzkill.
	His racing number is 33.
	And at the front of the car, it says, hit him in the mouth.
	At the front of the nose of the car.
	He's got the Noah General logo on the hood.
	It's beautiful.
	Yeah, this is a winner.
	So he'll be...
	Where's he going to compete with it?
	By the way, it's a Pontiac Sunfire.
	I'm reading here.
	I thought it was an Oldsmobile.
	It's the same body.
	I misread the logo.
	Sir Kelly didn't give me the info, but he's racing today.
	Oh, well, send him some karma.
	Yes, but either way, it'll be great to have pictures after the race to see what we look like.
	I've been to these.
	I like them.
	They're quite fun.
	They're really fun.
	Usually the guys drive backwards to protect their engine.
	Right, you usually drive backwards and ram the guy in the front.
	Because if you can bust the guy's radiator, then he's done.
	So anyway, it was a lot of fun when I was there last year.
	Please send some karma to the car and the driver too, of course.
	Yes, we did.
	Eric DeShill, another $200 from sales at the No Agenda Nation store.
	Dude, DeShill is on fire.
	What's going on with that?
	I think there's something we plugged here.
	He's got something new.
	I think you have to go to NoAgendaNation.com.
	He had freebies.
	I mean, he sent a lot of emails.
	Have you not paid attention to the emails?
	Yeah, he's got a bunch of new shirts.
	He's got a bunch of...
	Yeah, of course.
	And if I don't pay attention to his email, he calls me.
	So, I mean, it's like he doesn't have a lot of choices.
	Right.
	Right.
	Hey!
	You didn't plug my lanyards!
	Lanyards?
	Maybe it's the lanyards that are there.
	Lanyards rock!
	I love the rain.
	You look crazy for lanyards.
	Lanyards are pretty awesome.
	And they're cheap.
	They're $3.33.
	It's a good deal.
	Well, it's nice.
	Thank you very much, noagendanation.com.
	Thank you, Eric, the show.
	That's really nice to see that that's paying off.
	That's really good.
	I want to remind people to go to noagendashow.com, noagendanation.com.
	There's buttons you can click to go to the donation page, which is dvorak.org slash N-A. And by the way, if you can't spell my name, Dvorak, which is D-V-O-R-A-K, and you spell it stupidly like D-E-V-O-R-A-C-K, Type the name into Google in the box and you'll have my name spelled for you by Google.
	Another handy internet surfing tip from John C. Dvorak.
	PR mentions quickly, I guess this was one that Julian from Melbourne couldn't resist, but he said, yo, Adam, currydvorak.com is ready for business, serious business.
	So that's forwarding to noagendashow.com.
	And that's kind of nice because we did need a currydvorak.com website for our future exploits for the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group.
	I already mentioned Dallas Kelly's demo car, and then along those lines, Sir Andrew of the Round and Round Table, noagendaracing.com, he says, in the morning I got third place Saturday.
	He has the motorcycle race.
	Right, with the logo on the bottom.
	With the URL on the bottom, yeah.
	I was first in my race this morning, but it started raining like crazy.
	We didn't finish that lap, so I got second.
	Well, congratulations.
	That's us.
	Always in second place.
	No agenda show.
	Second place.
	And proud of it.
	But maybe in second place that we're still the best podcast in the universe.
	That is correct.
	And we appreciate all the support from our executive producers and our associate executive producers.
	Of course, Brian Ferguson will also get a 438 Club membership as the only member of the club.
	That's awesome.
	And again, if you can't spell it...
	Well, just remember the jingle.
	And of course, you can always go out and propagate the formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Real. Order. Order.
	Shut up, slave.
	Wow, that's nice.
	Very, very nice.
	And also thank you, Tice Brauers, for the artwork on episode 437.
	Look forward to what we have at noagentartgenerator.com for 438.
	Oh, man.
	I do have to start this segment out, the B-block.
	Really?
	The B-block?
	The B-block.
	I have...
	What is the C-block?
	I'm confused.
	The C-block will be after the donation.
	Oh, okay.
	The major donation.
	It'll be the C-block.
	Got it, got it, got it.
	Thank you for pointing that.
	Let me just adjust my ISD. I know you didn't think much of the evergreen sound clip.
	Um, no.
	Or the one last show, which you ridiculed endlessly.
	So I have another one.
	I have a different, maybe another, this is a potential new segment to the show.
	Wait a minute.
	After evergreen clip of the day, we have yet another?
	I mean, does this go in the C-block?
	Or is this always in the B block?
	This one's bringing it up.
	Okay.
	Useless dialogue of the day.
	Oh, that could be interesting.
	But very briefly, there must also be a broader question of if there is a strike against Iran.
	I mean, the region itself is in absolute turmoil at the moment.
	It could be disastrous.
	It could be.
	It could be.
	That's great.
	Yeah.
	It's close, but I'd have to follow it up with my Iran clip.
	Is it useless, though?
	Mine's useless.
	Well, I have a new...
	There's a new meme in mine.
	Oh.
	Which is always nice.
	Yeah, always nice.
	Wait for it.
	It comes at the end.
	This is the Bradstone Challenger, a record-breaking speedboat capable of an incredible 72 knots.
	A smaller version was driven by David Beckham during the opening of the Olympic Games.
	But now this boat is in the hands of the Iranian Navy, according to the people who built it.
	They say the Iranians bought the boat after numerous Western attempts to block the sail.
	They finally got their hands on it in 2009 from a South African arms dealer.
	And they have successfully copied the prototype, calling it the Suraj-1, part of a fleet of super-fast gunships bristling with rockets and weapons, a component of Iran's asymmetric tactics, using small boats to attack large warships.
	Asymmetric warfare, my friend.
	So, let me think for a second.
	So, how many large warships have these hot little boats sunk over the years?
	Since this is apparently part of their tactic.
	Well, pretty much none.
	Oh.
	But this is the asymmetric threat.
	Yeah, that's a buzz term.
	They tried to get that word into the public consciousness around 2002 after 9-11.
	Asymmetric.
	Asymmetric, asymmetric, asymmetric.
	And of course, for people that don't quite know what that means, what it means is you have a terrorist or a team of terrorists.
	Fighting against an organized army.
	So it's asymmetrical.
	In other words, you don't have an army against an army.
	You have little ankle biters against the army kind of thing.
	And this is supposed to be very dangerous.
	Yeah, it's asymmetric.
	Actually, I do have a CNBC Iran clip that might fit into the useless dialogue of the day.
	Because, of course, on CNBC, which I watch as one of my three screens...
	No, because I'd like to follow the money.
	You know, with the whole Iran situation, I mean, there's all kinds of investment opportunities, wouldn't you say?
	Oh yeah, I'm thinking of putting my money there now.
	You know, it's a little difficult to try to put a conflict trade on because there's so much politics involved there.
	I think what you look for, though, if you're looking at the Middle East conflict, you look for Saudi Arabia to start to turn the spigots on in oil.
	To me, that would be the first sign that perhaps the U.S. is going to back Israel in some kind of attack on Iran.
	And on to our next topic.
	So if Saudi Arabia turns on the spigots, then we're going to go and kick Iran's ass.
	Iran.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	That's on CNBC. Yeah, it makes logical sense.
	It's a conflict trade is what you call it.
	That's the technical term.
	I like this conflict trade.
	Yeah, you should try it out on Horowitz.
	Hey, Andrew.
	You had any good conflict trades this week, Andrew?
	I think the term is actually conflict trade.
	Trade.
	Confricked.
	Yeah.
	Hold on, I have the...
	There's no real conflict!
	So, did you notice Romney pulling the little switcheroo on a meme that Obama...
	Yeah, but that's...
	I'm ignoring that.
	I'm ignoring all of that.
	But you did notice it, right?
	You're talking about the...
	Yeah, about the birth certificate thing?
	No.
	No.
	I'm talking about his switcheroo on the energy independence.
	This I've not heard.
	Oh yeah.
	Romney's changed it from American oil independence to North American oil independence.
	Oh, interesting.
	Which is, hello, I mean, most of our oil comes from Canada, which nobody wants to talk about, but it does.
	And so if we went to American Energy Independence, we would cut our neighbors to the north off, and we also get a good amount of oil from Mexico.
	So if we want to go to North American energy independence, nothing really changes.
	No, because we are independent with Canada's oil.
	Yeah.
	But wait a minute.
	So if he's using that, then what he means is the XL pipeline is go.
	It has to be.
	If he's talking about North American energy independence, then that includes Canada, and that means that we have to be getting the tar sand oil stuff.
	Yeah.
	Well, that would make sense.
	What were you talking about?
	No, about no one's asked me for my birth certificate.
	Oh.
	I didn't even see that come across.
	And it's just...
	I get so sad, you know, because I follow, I don't know, maybe a hundred people.
	I don't look at the Twitter website.
	I subscribe to the RSS feed.
	For a hundred people.
	For a list.
	Yeah, just for a list.
	So they can't even see that I'm following them.
	Although I'm sure they can see that I have them on their list.
	And people who I kind of respect, you know, are like...
	Oh, so you're using the list?
	Yeah, but I use the RSS feed of the list, which is even cooler.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	And I can't do the Twitter interface.
	It doesn't work on my mobile phone.
	There's all kinds of problems.
	And I just see people like, oh, yeah?
	Well, I want to see your birth certificate, Romney.
	I'm like, oh, people...
	Really, how can you sink to this level?
	Don't you see what is going on?
	And I look at it and I'm just like, we are so late to this fight, John.
	You've heard of bringing a knife to a gunfight when it comes to how people in Gitmo Nation have been propagandized.
	We're showing up with a crayon.
	We don't even have a knife.
	Yeah, I know.
	Every once in a while I think about that and I go, you know, we do have a few hundred people that are paying attention, but most people are completely lost.
	And, of course, you run into them on a day-to-day basis if you actually get out of the house once in a while.
	Yeah, I think I was out of the house.
	Most of the time it's like jaw-dropping.
	It's like, really?
	Yeah.
	Well, that wasn't the case, of course, on the Hot Pockets tour.
	It was quite the opposite.
	I already talk about this stuff with you five hours a week.
	But then everywhere we went, people were like, man, we're all going to die.
	Here's my AR-15.
	Here's my gas mask.
	I just got real tired.
	Just emotionally drained.
	But I kept going until my body couldn't handle it anymore.
	Were you getting $1,000 an hour?
	No, that's the problem.
	It would be better if I was hanging on the stripper pole.
	And then the report...
	I'd hate to see that.
	Just looking at the propaganda.
	So everywhere reports, two Pussy Riot members flee Russia.
	And they're going to go recruit more Pussy Rioters.
	But where does this report come from?
	From their Twitter feed.
	They said on Twitter...
	We've escaped the country.
	We're recruiting more Pussy Riot Band members.
	And this is now news.
	The headline reads, Two Pussy Riot members flee Russia.
	From the Guardian to, I think the New York Times had it.
	You guys have nothing.
	It's really, you know...
	And what do these guys make over there?
	Where?
	Just at these outlets.
	At the New York Times?
	As an example.
	I would say a reporter there will make $9,225,000 a year.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Hmm.
	Well, that's...
	And they get compromised for that amount, huh?
	And they have medical.
	Oh, right.
	And they have free cars.
	Free cars, subway passes, and I bet you they got cell phones.
	Probably, yeah.
	Yeah, they probably cell phone, car, medical, $125,000 a year.
	Yeah, someone pays for the internets.
	Ah, so nice.
	So nice.
	No, it's a good gig.
	It's a very good gig.
	I wish they'd spend a little more time doing their work instead of...
	So speaking of...
	Downloading apps.
	Speaking of the tweeters, this was a big retweeted item.
	Bill Nye the science guy.
	Did you see this?
	Did you see this video?
	No.
	Oh my goodness.
	So this is in the category...
	Science!
	Science!
	Bill Nye, the science guy, I should have looked him up, really.
	I forgot.
	Where did he come from?
	He's a kooky guy.
	He shows up on typically our morning talk shows and does a shtick and he teaches.
	He's kind of like Pee Wee Herman of science.
	Is that an accurate description?
	Yeah, I think he's kind of like Pee Wee Herman.
	I know you're not quite as entertaining.
	He used to be, I see, he's an actor, mechanical engineer, scientist, best known as the host, blah, blah, blah.
	Are you looking at the wiki?
	How tall is he?
	Does it say on the Wikipedia how tall he is?
	Yes, it does.
	It does.
	Where?
	On the Wikipedia it says he's 6'4".
	Oh, wait a minute.
	Google shows this.
	Interesting.
	I just did a Google search, and on the right-hand side it says height 641.
	So Google is now trumping Wikipedia.
	Very good, Google.
	Okay, so Nye began his career in Seattle at Boeing, where, among other things, he starred in training films.
	And he invented, apparently, some pressure resonance suppressor and did 747.
	Later he worked as a consultant in the aeronautics industry.
	He wanted to be an astronaut, but he was rejected.
	Yeah, because they don't want idiots.
	Yeah.
	Knight began his professional entertainment career as an actor in a local sketch comedy television show in Seattle, Almost Live, which, by the way, he used to watch.
	It was actually quite amazing since it was local.
	It was quite good.
	He attempted a lot of inside jokes, though, about the area.
	He attempted to correct the show's host pronunciation of gigawatt to...
	Gigawatt.
	Oh, really?
	Gigawatt.
	Who do you think you are?
	Bill Nye, the science guy?
	Oh, and that's how he got it.
	Okay.
	So he apparently is being paid by BigThink.com.
	You should go to that because I'm not quite sure who was behind this.
	I've seen this.
	I think I've already deconstructed this website once before.
	I don't know if I get on the show.
	Well, BigThink.com is...
	It says down here, it's...
	Somehow it's connected to the Jack Parker Corporation, which is...
	I don't know who these people are about us.
	Hold on a second.
	We don't know who anybody is.
	I was digging on one today that I couldn't find one name of any person.
	Yeah, I have a couple of those coming up.
	Anyway, so BigThink.com, and they released a YouTube video, and I've cut it down, but you need to...
	This is voted Time Magazine's number one website for news and information.
	I know, that killed me too.
	That doesn't sound right.
	Well, here is the news and information that Time thinks is appropriate, and I think it's debatable.
	Denial of evolution is unique to the United States.
	There you go.
	Denial of evolution is unique to the United States.
	Really?
	You mean you're telling me that in Ghana or in Nigeria or in parts of Asia or India or...
	Nobody's...
	Everyone's all on board for evolution, but...
	You're wrong.
	Bill Nye, the science guy, says it's unique to the United States of America, and he will explain this.
	We are the world's most advanced technological, so, I mean, you could say Japan, but generally, the United States is where most of the innovation still happens.
	People still move to the United States.
	What?
	I'm just saying, this is an old meme.
	That is not holy water anymore.
	Yeah, okay.
	But wait until you hear what the message really is.
	Because of the intellectual capital we have, the general understanding of science.
	When you have a portion of the population that doesn't believe in that, it holds everybody back.
	Wait a minute.
	When you have a portion of the population that doesn't believe in evolution, it holds everybody back.
	How many people do you think believe in creationism in America?
	I think probably about close to 40% of the country.
	I would say even more than that, probably.
	I'm having a hard time.
	And I think there's also a hybrid.
	I mean, you can believe in evolution of the stuff that God created.
	That's not wrong.
	We'll have that conversation in a minute.
	You've got to listen to what the guy says.
	And I say to the grown-ups, if you want to deny evolution and live in your world that's completely inconsistent with everything we observe in the universe, that's fine.
	But don't make your kids do it, because we need them.
	Don't believe in God, is basically what he's saying.
	Yeah, maybe.
	Scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future.
	There's plenty of people that are evolutionary biologists who are Catholics or even...
	Yeah, but he's saying...
	No, he's saying...
	This is not what he's saying.
	Listen to him wind it up because he's actually saying the opposite of what you are claiming here.
	For the future, we need people that can...
	We need engineers that can build stuff, solve problems.
	Apparently, if you believe in creationism, you can't solve problems or be an engineer.
	It's just a really hard thing.
	It's really a hard thing.
	You know, in another couple centuries, that worldview, I'm sure, just won't exist.
	I don't know, John.
	found it to be.
	First, let me play the Denier jingle for him.
	The science is in.
	Science!
	Sight sucks.
	Sight sucks.
	I found it to be rather out there.
	Well, let me read something that's on here.
	Which is, unfortunately, this damned piece of crap flash on here.
	What's the big idea?
	The internet has a terrible habit of misquoting Einstein on energy and creativity.
	I have to go back to it.
	Until it sounds like he's the author of The Secret, not The Theory of Relativity.
	Where does this come from?
	Here's something he actually did say.
	And he goes on.
	I mean, I've never heard this concept that people think he's the author of The Secret.
	Are they trying to make us think that...
	I find this onerous.
	This crazy assertion and the misuse of the language.
	I don't know.
	Now I have to look into this site.
	Number one news site.
	Is America Ready for a Gay President?
	Author Jimmy Carter.
	Beyond Celebrity Adoptions by Jason Gotts, associate editor of The Big Think.
	Standardized Testing, The Monster That Ate American Education by Megan Erickson.
	That could be.
	Organic Food, no longer sustainable.
	Are you buying beautiful organic tomatoes?
	This is a whole half of the topic.
	They are in the process right now.
	Because J.C.'s girlfriend works at a cheese shop.
	And the government has been doing this very secretively around the country.
	They are shutting down any cut and wrap cheese shops.
	You know where you go into a cheese shop and say, oh, this cheddar's good, give me a piece this big.
	What, you can't just buy cheese?
	They have to pre-cut it, pre-wrap it.
	It has to be like it is at the grocery store.
	Wait a minute.
	Back up one second.
	J.C. has a girlfriend?
	Yeah.
	Is she hot?
	She's JC's girlfriend.
	She's hot.
	So now you can't cut the cheese.
	Oh, that's what she said.
	Anyway, so you can't do that.
	I mean, this is going to be all over the country.
	I don't understand.
	You can't cut cheese?
	Why?
	Because it's like dangerous.
	Really?
	But it turns out, according to the gossip within the cheese community, is that this is a movement.
	They're also banning anybody that makes raw milk cheese.
	Right.
	I know that.
	Well, there's a lot of people that do make it.
	They have the permits and everything, and they've been against this since day one because they want to sell milk that is garbage, that has all kinds of bacteria in it, but you boil it and it's fine kind of thing, as opposed to raw milk, which is usually a pretty clean product.
	Anyway, it's a very clean product, as a matter of fact.
	But they've been after raw milk forever, so they're trying to get that out of it.
	They want to ban raw milk cheese, which includes certain kinds of, even the stuff that comes over from Europe that has a certain period of aging, which is okay, apparently, if you age it long enough, you can eat it legally.
	But the real rumor is that they're going to end up, they're really out to get imported cheese.
	Huh.
	The stinky cheese.
	They basically want everybody to eat Wisconsin cheddar.
	No more stinky cheese.
	That's what the goal is.
	This perceived goal of the feds are to stop.
	They're going to start with the cutting thing so they're going to kind of decimate the cheese business because most people, if you're going to go to just have some wrapped up cheese, you know, whatever size.
	They want everyone to have government cheese.
	Yeah, I'm telling you, there's a big deal going on.
	Now, a lot of people believe this is an attack on the organic food.
	I did have a couple of clips from two or three shows ago we never went to, which is Proposition 37 happening in California right now.
	I don't have the clips.
	Now, I could talk about that on the Thursday show, but I can just kind of mention it.
	There's a huge movement about labeling.
	It seems like it's about labeling for GMOs.
	Yeah, so the discussion is label or don't label, and there seems to be quite a movement against not labeling that is genetically modified.
	Well, there's a...
	Both sides have taken...
	There's huge...
	These websites, pro and con, are massive, and they have long lists of people and names, and this is going to be a really great battle when it finally comes to a head.
	I deconstructed these sites and went to the...
	The site that said, no, no, no, we don't want these labels because it's bull crap, it's misleading, you know, everything's got GMO in it now, you can't go about it.
	But they gave themselves away with a little complaint that was highlighted in their website about, and did you know that any processed food at all cannot be labeled organic?
	So if you have organic green beans and you can them...
	You can't put the word organic on the can.
	Okay.
	And so they make a big stink about this.
	And what I realized when I read through this over and over...
	Is that what they're trying – what they're really – who's really behind us are the bullcrap or big organic guys.
	These are the guys who are putting organic on everything, and that's what they're really defending.
	It's not about the GMOs.
	Nobody cares.
	They're just going to be in the label.
	It's about being able to put organic on pretty much everything.
	Is that the whole idea?
	Yes, it's pretty much being able to have free reign with the use of the term organic.
	And if you freeze it – the law says if you even freeze it, you can't put that on anything.
	You know, this is interesting because I've been following the usage of the word organic.
	And in other countries, they do it a little differently.
	In the Netherlands, I have to laugh because people are actually going to stores and paying a lot of money for their version of organic.
	But you know what they call it over there?
	They call it biological.
	I'm like, biological?
	Of course it's biological.
	That doesn't mean that it's not jacked up with all kinds of crap.
	Well, my favorite example of this is that if you look at the brand that Safeway, the big giant food chain, has this O. O for organic?
	It's all overpriced crap.
	It's definitely overpriced.
	There's nothing remotely interesting about it or good.
	So this battle is starting up.
	And so when I see these organic food no longer sustainable articles, which is obviously, what's the implication of this?
	Organic food is no longer sustainable.
	This is the whole thing is getting geared up for this, you know, let's just either label everything organic or don't label anything organic.
	And you can't use any other kinds of, you know, they did this with the BST, which was, you know, that Monsanto made a big fuss about people.
	Yeah, the cow hormone.
	And the joke of it, of course, it still says that on most milk, but the joke of it is BST hasn't been used for, I don't know, 10 years or more because nobody was buying it.
	It was making the cattle weird.
	So now it's just a marketing slogan.
	Yeah, which is fine.
	There's no BST, neither does anything else.
	Well, I think you just, you got to find a market like we have here in Austin on Saturday.
	We went, we were there yesterday and you just, you know, they don't put any labeling on their stuff there.
	It's just here's a brown paper bag.
	Here you go.
	Yeah, you know, it's funny.
	You go to these farmer's markets, and I go to one local that pick up tomatoes mostly from the Hmong.
	There are two Hmong farmers in there that compete with each other.
	They have the best stuff.
	I mean, you get like a pile of things for a dollar.
	Oh, like I must have gotten a pound of chili peppers mixed, the ones I picked out, for $3.
	I actually looked at them and said, are you sure?
	$3.
	Yeah.
	I mean, that's an incredible price.
	Yeah, no, the prices are good at some of these.
	Some of the farmer's markets.
	Then you go to San Francisco, they...
	Oh, or L.A. No, it's bullcrap.
	Yeah, it's just bullcrap.
	So anyway, so I get the biggest kick.
	You got some Hmong farmers from Southeast Asia that have been, you know, patriotized to the United States or they've been, you know, brought over.
	And they're great farmers, by the way.
	They grow all kinds of cool stuff.
	And you have some old lady, eh?
	Is this organic?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You know, it just bugs me, some of these old ladies.
	Well, no.
	The old lady shouldn't bug you.
	It should bug you.
	The old lady's been duped.
	You go to Monterey Foods.
	I've said this.
	I bitch about this constantly.
	You go to Monterey Foods.
	The old lady's there, and it doesn't have to be an old lady.
	She can be in her 40s.
	She can be just a typical Berkeley whack job.
	But the old lady's typically it.
	They hang up the line.
	First of all, they either write a check.
	If they write a check, they've got to balance their checkbook.
	Right in the line.
	Stop everything.
	So they can balance.
	9 from 14.
	And they've got to write it in their balance sheet on the checkbook, right?
	Yes, they're writing it in the checkbook.
	Yeah, writing, writing.
	You can't move aside.
	You can't get out of the way.
	Hey, lady.
	Hey, lady.
	Lady!
	Get out of the way.
	And then the other one is the ones who pay in cash, and they have to dig.
	Oh, for dimes.
	Hey, hey, hey, you with the dimes.
	I know I've got a penny.
	I've got a penny.
	And they'll dig and dig and dig in the purse.
	One day you're going to be an old lady.
	And then what?
	No, I'm bitch about this so much I'll get out of the way.
	You'll be with your...
	Next to me, I'll be with my gold coins.
	Can I shave a little bit off of this for you?
	Give you some gold filings.
	But anyway, yeah.
	Is that organic?
	I have a question for you about organic while we're on the topic.
	Yesterday I bought from my frogman, Sebastien, at the market.
	He had these fantastic lamb sausages, and he made them themselves.
	So it's very much the taste of the merguez.
	He has these great spices that he makes.
	Hey, by the way, I bought some merguez.
	And?
	I haven't cooked them yet.
	Oh, okay.
	Well, let me know, because I think you'll like it.
	So, that's basically stuffed into...
	They're expensive.
	Yeah.
	Well, not at the market.
	Not at Sebastian's place.
	Well, send me some.
	Anyway, go on.
	So, we stuffed them into, you know, the pig intestines, I guess.
	That's what a sausage is.
	But I did...
	I want to know if they were defective or if I did something wrong, because I put them into the pan, I'm heating them up, and within...
	A minute.
	Two of them went...
	They just split open and the casings just...
	Everything oozed out.
	Did I do it wrong?
	Too much heat?
	Or am I supposed to do something before I put them in the pan?
	Do I have to prick holes in them?
	Well, it depends on the sausage.
	Some sausages need to be boiled first.
	Just firm up the insides so you don't have what happened to you.
	Oh, okay.
	And so you pre-cook it by boiling it, then you grill it.
	That's what I should have done then, huh?
	With that sausage, it sounds like that would have solved the problem.
	They're still split at some point, but it'll be solid.
	Oh, it split so fast, and then it just oozed out, and it looked like a...
	Yeah, no, no, no.
	That sausage probably should have been done.
	It looked like a gunshot wound.
	It was not pretty.
	I was trying not to show Mickey, and I gave her the two good ones.
	You'll never want to eat it.
	If you see this, you don't want to eat it anymore.
	It just didn't look good.
	It was some spaghetti sauce.
	While we're on labeling, producer Chad Christian, our buddy there in Erie, Colorado, in Denver, So, you know, he's an EMS guy, so he's turning out to be a very useful human resource for the show.
	He is combing through the Federal Register on a daily basis, which is hard.
	You know, they've got some RSS feeds, very poor, I have to say, but he does a really good job, and he sent me a link, and that led me to some legislation I'd like to share with you, because we missed a big one.
	And by the way, I mentioned that lots of the stuff in the federal register would be the senator or the congressman saying, and I have the balance of my remarks I'd like to put on the record.
	They just put it in the register, but they never actually say them.
	I think it's filled with bullcrap.
	Well, bullcrap and then one that we missed.
	So he said it was draft guidelines for industry on generic drug user fee amendments of 2012.
	And I'm reading this and it says that this amendment was signed into law by President Obama.
	On July 9th, 2012.
	And it is a part of the Food and Drug Administration Safety and Innovation Act.
	Or as we say, innovation in England.
	So I read through this thing.
	It's a whopper, by the way.
	Let me see how many pages is this thing.
	This has got...
	It's like 300 pages.
	But I go to the Title III... Fees relating to generic drugs.
	Short title.
	This title may be cited as the generic drug user fee amendments of 2012.
	Now, this is already law, and I didn't know any of this was being debated, etc.
	In general, each person that owns an abbreviated new drug application that is pending as per October 1st, 2012, and has not received a tentative approval prior to that date, shall be subject to a fee for each such application as calculated under paragraph B. So what this is about is obviously to put the generic drug companies out of business with The amount of each one-time
	backlog fee, so if you have a generic drug, and this is a big problem for the pharmaceutical companies because their patents have run out, they've gone generic, and then so you can basically say, okay, so I'm going to make Lipitor, or I'm going to make, what are some other good ones, John, that are out there?
	Lipitor, Viagra.
	Yeah, all kinds of stuff.
	And the joke is that the patent system was designed for this exact...
	Yeah.
	Right.
	But here's how they're combating it.
	There's no reason that these drug companies should gouge the customer forever.
	So let me ask you a question.
	And it's a gouge, by the way.
	Oh, no, wait.
	Because if you can make a pill for five cents and you're being charged $10.
	Wait until you hear the numbers, my friend.
	So Lipitor is out of a patent.
	If you and I had the formula, could we cook up a batch?
	Could we cook up some Viagra?
	Could we cook that up?
	I mean, would that be hard to do?
	I would think that you should be able to by law, yes.
	No, but would it be expensive for us to do that?
	Could we just like go into our lab and cook it up?
	Would it be expensive, is my question.
	I don't know.
	I don't know what the formulas are or what it takes to make some of that stuff, but I'm sure that a generic drug company would be able to do it inexpensively.
	No.
	No.
	They can't do it inexpensively because...
	Why because?
	They now will have to pay a fee for each generic drug they want approved by the FDA. Why?
	To get rid of them.
	Here it is.
	The amount of each one-time backlog fee shall be calculated by dividing $50 million by the total number of abbreviated new drug applications pending on October 1, 2012.
	So if you have a drug pending now, and let's say there's five guys, you will have to pay $10 million application fee for the FDA to even consider your generic drug.
	But it gets better.
	If you own a pharmaceutical ingredient drug master file, And you want to put in a fee, you want to put in an application, you will also be required to pay a fee.
	And here's...
	I'm just going to scroll down on this document here.
	They have a whole bunch of things here talking about if you don't pay, you go to jail, your company gets shut down, etc., etc.
	The fees are unknown.
	So for each person that owns a facility which is identified or intended to be identified in at least one generic drug submission that is pending or approved to produce one or more finished dosage forms of a human generic drug shall be assessed for an annual fee for each such facility.
	And these fees will be determined no later than 30 days after the signing of this document.
	So I haven't found them yet, but apparently those have to be put in.
	But here is the kicker because they've put it in.
	Fiscal year 2013.
	For fiscal year 2013, fees under this act shall be established to generate a total estimated revenue amount of...
	What do you think?
	A billion?
	No, not that bad.
	$299 million.
	In fees?
	In fees for generic...
	This is what everyone's complaining about, by the way, this sort of red tape crap.
	It's not red tape.
	It's a scam.
	Red tape scam.
	And this has not been reported anywhere.
	I did not even know about this thing.
	So now, if you and I cook up a generic drug, Viagra, and we're like, hey, we can sell this Viagra and make some money, and we can make it for, as you said, five cents a pill, Unfortunately, somewhere we'll have to pay some portion of this $299 million as a part of our fee.
	And if we have an application in now, we're going to be paying a portion of $50 million, depending on how many other guys there are.
	Wow, what a scam.
	So what happens to the guys that make the stuff in India?
	Well, if they...
	It sounds to me as though we're going to take all our drug manufacturing and drive it out of, like everything else we've done in this country, drive it out of the country so it doesn't exist here anymore, and the dumb public, whatever.
	Well, it's too bad they're outsourcing everything.
	Well, they've hit it from both sides.
	They've hit it with legislation so that you can't buy drugs over the internet from outside the United States.
	We've already gone through that.
	Right, we've talked about that.
	And now they've just hit it directly at the bottom line.
	So this is the whole point.
	Make it too expensive for these guys to come in.
	You know, if you're running Pfizer and you can pull this sort of stunt over and over again on the dumb Congress, what would you do?
	Well, yeah, duh.
	I would keep doing it until my body gave up.
	There you go.
	The only exemption of fees is for a positron emission tomography drug which is cancer.
	Because they got that scam running in other ways I guess.
	Yeah, no, it's already scammed out.
	Yeah, scammed out.
	All scammed out.
	Well, we're on the topic of drugs then.
	Uh-oh.
	I found the absolute worst drug ever.
	I always thought, you know, we play these with they have all the disclaimers.
	These disclaimers are outrageous.
	It's Humira.
	It took years to build this business.
	The moment my moderate to severe chronic plaque psoriasis started getting in the way, that was it.
	It was time for a serious talk with my dermatologist.
	This time he prescribed Humira at Limumac.
	Humira helps to clear the surface of my skin by actually working inside my body.
	In clinical trials, most adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis saw 75% skin clearance, and the majority of people were clear or almost clear in just four months.
	Humera can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis.
	Serious, sometimes fatal events such as infections, lymphoma, or other types of cancer have happened.
	Blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure have occurred.
	Before starting Humira, your doctor should test you for TB.
	Ask your doctor if you live in or have been to a region where certain fungal infections are common.
	Tell your doctor if you have had TB, hepatitis B, are prone to infections, or have symptoms such as fever, fatigue, cough, or sores.
	You should not start Humira if you have any kind of infection.
	Make the most of every moment.
	Ask your dermatologist about Humira today.
	Clear skin is possible.
	Wow.
	I mean, it's everything.
	Yeah.
	Liver failure, heart attack, cancer.
	I didn't hear depression.
	I didn't hear depression.
	I was surprised.
	Well, because you're dead by the time you're that far.
	They should have thrown that in.
	And by the way, it says that you have sores.
	This is to take care of sores.
	It also helps against Crohn's disease, apparently.
	Rheumatoid arthritis.
	What is this, some kind of miracle drug?
	Miracle death drug?
	Yeah.
	It's funny that in the same block of ads...
	No.
	What?
	I just thought it was hilarious.
	The clip is called Dead, Call Us.
	Okay.
	Oh, we should have played it in sequence.
	Oops.
	What happened?
	Where'd it go?
	Uh-oh.
	Something weird happened.
	Oh, here it is.
	We should have played them in sequence.
	Attention.
	Do you have health problems?
	Use Pradaxa as a blood thinner and had hemorrhaging, internal bleeding, or a loved one has died.
	Use Actos for diabetes and now have bladder cancer.
	Had a hip replacement.
	Have a transvaginal mesh patch and having erosion, infection, or pain.
	If so, you may be entitled to financial compensation.
	Call 1-800-242-2000.
	If you use Pradaxa, Actos, have a hip implant, or transvaginal mesh patch, call 1-800-242-2000.
	Yeah, this vaginal mesh stuff is...
	What the hell is that anyway?
	Yeah, this was some kind of...
	I looked into this.
	It's not pretty.
	Yeah, it's not pretty.
	Because oftentimes with obesity, but after pregnancy, with some women apparently large enough to create a market, stuff starts falling out and starts hanging out.
	Yeah, it's not a pretty conversation.
	So then they made this vaginal mesh patch.
	Kind of like a net.
	Does that have anything to do with the punchline?
	Here, let me find my keys.
	We'll drive out of here.
	No, there's no punchline to this.
	Okay.
	But apparently that really hurt a lot of women.
	So, it's just crazy.
	The mesh patch?
	The mesh patch, yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, this industry is sick.
	It's not a good thing.
	Yeah, it is sick.
	And they're helping us by not giving us access to actual affordable medication.
	Even though I don't believe in a lot of the medication that it's protecting, but the whole idea of the patent system, as you pointed out, is to allow for this, and then right behind everybody's back, they go in...
	I didn't go into it.
	I have the document marked up in the show notes.
	But you look at the reasoning and the calculation for this $300 million in fees for the first year only...
	And this legislation will sunset at the end of 2017 when, of course, they'll renew it and up everything.
	It's ridiculous.
	It's because, oh, we have to hire more people to look at these things.
	And it's just complete bullcrap.
	And it's all just willy-nilly.
	We don't quite know how much you're going to be charged yet, but it will be a part of the $300 million.
	Yeah, that comes in handy.
	Just kind of vague.
	Speaking of 300 million.
	I'm going to show my salute by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Yeah, on No Agenda.
	We don't have 300 million.
	Well, we definitely did not get 300 million.
	No.
	Government gets it.
	Okay, we got T. McAdams in Chicago, $140.99.
	Call out Buddy Paul L. of Arlington, Virginia, as a douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	That's all he says, and he says he needs a de-douching and a karma shot.
	You've been de-douched.
	You've got karma.
	David Goes in New Lenox, Illinois.
	$100.
	No comment.
	Jesper Holmberg in Duval, Washington.
	8888.
	Sprinkle some travel karma over my family so our tiny human resource can handle a long flight.
	So TSA pays as little attention as possible and I can figure out the super secret Wi-Fi code at Shippool Airport.
	That's right.
	Also for the guy who was...
	The guy was asking about gourmet salts in episode 437.
	John gave an in-depth explanation on episode 24.
	So I just listened to a bunch of back issues I just got from the archive.
	Adam sounded really interested in the subject at the time.
	See, people misunderstand.
	I know that you know a lot about salts.
	So instead of just, you know, I just gave you a little background music.
	I thought it enhanced the entire experience.
	It wasn't meant to...
	No, of course you didn't.
	I think you actually enjoyed a little background music.
	I like background music when I'm talking.
	Well, hold on then.
	As long as it's not the kazoo.
	Oh.
	That was what I said.
	It's not the kazoo.
	It's not the kazoo.
	The kazoo.
	It's Chad Biderman, or it could be Biderman, but I think it's Biderman around Lake Illinois.
	A lot of Illinoisians.
	Wait a minute.
	I needed to hand out some travel karma to Jasper's human resource.
	You've got karma.
	Send me an email.
	I'll send you the details for the super secret Wi-Fi.
	Which is great, by the way, to have something like that available to travelers.
	No Agenda, it's a complimentary service of No Agenda.
	That's right, through the entire airport of Shiphole.
	Yes, and otherwise you'd be paying $10 an hour or some outrageous thing.
	$70 from Sir Chad.
	John's Saturday Bulletin on Romney's Vice President shall pick finally motivated me to get off my entire ass and donate once again.
	Normally he only gets off part of his ass.
	Would it have been nice if Romney picked Charlie Crist.
	Crist?
	Crist?
	Christy.
	Oh, Charlie Crist.
	Okay, yeah, that guy.
	For VP, at least the guy has a tan.
	I think that is important.
	I think that is true.
	Appearance matters.
	Can you give him a two to the head followed by me yelling, that's not a great question?
	You want me to just do it in real time?
	Yeah, that's better.
	That's better.
	I'm going to do that.
	Hold on a second.
	That's not a great question!
	That was the clip.
	Beautiful.
	Sir James Howard in Indianapolis, Indiana.
	69-69.
	Hold on.
	69-69, dude!
	Or as we call it, Swazzelnuff.
	Swazzelnuff.
	After hearing John's bombshell about lesbian bed death on the last show, I had a revelation.
	This is obviously why Hillary wants to kill us all.
	Maybe Huma is too tired after dealing with the baby.
	Maybe the spark has died.
	Who knows?
	But a few doses of Androgel seems like a small price to pay to save the world.
	Hey, a couple of things about this.
	First of all, I registered swazzlenoffa.com.
	A good move.
	And I'm on tweet today.
	Oh, good.
	I'm heading to L.A. When Leo says, what do you want your URL to be?
	I think I should just say swazzelnuff.com.
	What do you think?
	Yeah, you'll never get it.
	And, of course, that points to noagendashow.com.
	Swazzelnuff.
	He'll be like, what?
	Yeah, it's my new project.
	Swazzelnuff.com.
	And someone else sent me a note about Androgel and said it was bullcrap your story.
	And I disagree because this producer says, I have to take androgel because I don't produce enough testosterone.
	He says, it's very expensive.
	You can't get, you know, but a little bit.
	It's like a thousand bucks a month.
	And I said, well, you know, just because it's expensive doesn't mean that it's not used in that manner.
	But apparently it's very hard to come by.
	For men, it would be a thousand bucks a month.
	For women, that would last six months.
	Ah, good point.
	They're not pumping up like guys are.
	Good point.
	But yeah.
	That's a myth.
	And it's also covered by some insurance plans, so there's not $1,000 involved.
	So what we need to do is we need to see if Hillary...
	And by the way, it used to be like $300 a month, and then when Obamacare went in, it went to $1,000.
	Oh, how does that happen?
	Yeah.
	So we need to see if Hillary is starting to grow a stash.
	Well, she'd probably shave.
	I think she'd shave anyway.
	Yeah, but then you'd see stubble.
	Yeah.
	There's the artist getting to work right now putting a big mustache on.
	Did you not like the 69-69 jingle?
	I thought it was pretty good.
	Yeah, you have to play it again because Sir James Howard in Indianapolis.
	Uh-oh.
	I just read his.
	What am I thinking?
	Nathan Marshall.
	Sir Nathan.
	Okay, that was James Howard with the Lucifer thing.
	Sir Nathan Marshall is what I mean.
	Is Grant Fork's North Dakota 6969?
	Yes?
	I just did the jingle.
	You didn't hear it.
	I just did it.
	Don't worry.
	I did it.
	This is a true drunk donation because it took me at least six times to log in to the PayPaller.
	I am currently listening to show 434 about killing a pig.
	By the way, it's sorry to you, FYI. I'm still waiting for that double-headed 6969 coin.
	I like some little job karma and Because I found out how expensive a slave wedding costs.
	Best wish to Crackpot and Mrs.
	Mickey.
	I can still spell it correctly.
	Drunk Dvorak.
	You've got karma.
	And he spelled Mickey wrong.
	He did.
	Anthony Farmer in Las Vegas lost wages in Nevada.
	69, 69. 69, 69, dudes.
	A special lesbian bed debt donation from the land of intellectual sodomites.
	If they need help shaving their mustaches, I can hook them up.
	My contributions are slow but steady.
	Thank the wonderful economy here in Lost Wages.
	But at least I'm trying.
	Not like that douchebag Marshall!
	Oh, that guy.
	Douchebag!
	A friend who also listens regularly telling him to get off his ass and toss you guys a copper from his Texan slumlord reserves.
	Maybe a huntsman clippity-clop will get him motivated.
	A huntsman clippity-clop?
	Okay.
	And with karma?
	Doesn't say.
	Just huntsman clippity-clop?
	Just clippity-clop.
	The message is clear.
	Just clippity-clop.
	Brandon Savoy in Silverdale, Washington.
	Uh-oh.
	69!
	69, dude!
	It's gonna get old.
	Hey, John Hamm, I was on bass for Pinata's speech, and I need a lobotomy so I can get an Italian mob hit for myself.
	Wow.
	I also need some job karma for his girlfriend.
	See, I told you.
	Wasn't he one of the many people extremely excited?
	Oh, yeah.
	And clapping and cheering and hooting and hollering?
	Yeah.
	You've got karma.
	What does he call him?
	Pinheader?
	Pinheader.
	Joshua Spiker.
	Spiker.
	Sinking Springs, Pennsylvania.
	Wow, what a name for a town.
	6969.
	Long-time boner, first-time donor trying to sell my house and need some karma.
	Spiker.
	All right, Spiker, here it comes.
	You've got karma.
	John Gagoulas in Perth, our favorite city in the world, 69-69.
	6969.
	This is being called out on Thursday by my douche-in-law, Spyro.
	I figured it was time for me to make the move and show some support for you guys.
	Please accept this donation as a thanks for the tremendous work you're doing.
	You guys provided this peasant my dose of sanity, but I often find myself saying, that's bullcrap a lot and yelling at the TV. Like when I watch the TV news and the talking heads said something like, they were killed in shocking circumstances.
	Yeah.
	I leapt off the sofa yelling, shocking!
	I'm becoming linguistically aware.
	By the way, the suspense whistle on Thursday sounded like a slide whistle orgasm.
	Keep dissecting, coming, keep it coming, as well as the top-notch entertainment.
	Sincerely, John Gugulis in Perth.
	Oh, thank you very much.
	And thank you to your douche-in-law for setting you up.
	Philip Rogner in Vancouver, D.C. Another swazzle nuff.
	6969 in the morning, John and Adam.
	Philip R. Checking in from the Gitmo Nation, Great White North.
	Been a boner for two years.
	Now I conclude it's time to support the best podcasts in the universe.
	I'd like a de-douching and a science is in karma.
	Thanks and keep it up.
	Okay.
	You've been de-douched.
	The science is in!
	You've got karma.
	I like that.
	It's a cool combo.
	It's a new more Canadian deconstruction.
	Mm-hmm.
	Matthew Hyland in Novato, California, 6969.
	In the morning, my fellow master debaters just getting by has caused me not to donate in a while and has been too long.
	I've been chomping at the bit for quite some time to donate 6969 because 69 is a love number and 6969 is absolutely a double down for the love number.
	This needs to be a credited donation special that lasts for all time.
	Double down on the love number.
	I'm glad I'm able to get this note in before the streak has ended.
	John, stick to your guns on the 6969 investigation.
	Please provide my lovely girlfriend, Caitlin Halath, with a Chemtrails Trains Good Planes Bad Karma Shot.
	As she embarks on her teaching credential, her wild schedule of teacher in the morning.
	Teacher 8 in the morning and classes at night causes her to be away from home from 7 a.m.
	to 10 p.m.
	The teaching community would be blessed to have as passionate a hardworking girl as her.
	Maybe I can convince her to slip in some no-agenda memes to little human resources once she becomes a teacher.
	I'll also give my brother Cameron Highland his second douching as he initially turned me on to the show.
	Oh, man.
	Two years to go.
	Oh, wow.
	Two years ago, and he's still not donated.
	All right, let me get the karma request here.
	All aboard, trains good, planes bad.
	Woo-hoo!
	You've got karma.
	That ends our 69-69 episode.
	Let me end the segment.
	69-69, dude!
	So much for the swazzle-nuff.
	Hey, John and Adam, $61.11 from Brad Reader.
	I'm submitting my donation of 66 on the sticks.
	6611.
	That's good.
	66 on the sticks.
	Ooh, 66 on the sticks.
	For some grain stick karmas, I really don't want to put out the hoses this weekend.
	The donation is also a reminder for everyone to sign up for the Value for Value plan, especially while it's being offered a discount price.
	$4 for five hours of content a week.
	Keep up the good work, guys.
	So, I think we need to talk about this briefly.
	About the rain stick?
	Alright.
	Are you cool with the rain stick?
	Yeah, no, no.
	I mean, you've got the damn thing.
	Okay.
	It's apparently a rain in L.A. for some guy who had his volume up too high.
	I don't think you're going to get the effect if you're listening on headphones.
	Well, we got a couple emails.
	Hey, Adam says, Corey, two things for you.
	A theory about the rain stick, another about my knighthood, and we'll be knighting him later.
	The rain stick works!
	sticks and such nonsense, but I can doubt no more.
	The rain stick really works.
	It rained very unexpectedly in Southern California, Orange County specifically, late Thursday night, about 16 hours after the rain stick was shaken.
	I have a theory as how it works.
	The signal was transmitted over the internet backbone connecting to Dallas to Los Angeles, a distance of 1,500 miles.
	The reason it took 16 hours to get here is because the signal was degraded when it made it from Austin to the Dallas hub and then split all across the country.
	Looks like the stick needs to be shaken as close to a major backbone as possible for maximum signal strength when sending remote rain signals.
	Okay.
	Tyler, just to let you know, I was listening to the stream when you did the rain stick.
	Lincoln has been on mandatory water restrictions for two months now.
	Well, it's raining right now.
	We're supposed to get two inches tonight.
	Thanks, says Tyler.
	Christopher Altman, dude, I'm listening to the podcast and it's raining in Atlanta as we speak.
	And finally, Ken, also we know from Arsenomics, The rain stick works!
	It just started raining in Oklahoma City.
	Funny thing is I heard the podcast about nine hours ago, so maybe it's eight to twelve hours from the time you hear the podcast, or perhaps it just takes longer the further away from the stick you are.
	So, you know, we don't question karma, and I don't question the stick.
	So, double, was it double six on the stick?
	Is that our donation number now?
	66 on the stick.
	66 on the sticks.
	That's a great donation.
	Yeah, 66 on the sticks.
	Here you go, Brad.
	66 on the sticks.
	Yep, turn your speakers up.
	Ready?
	Ready?
	Here we go.
	66 on the sticks.
	Perfect.
	It's a magical state.
	By the way, Corey, who you read from, also wanted a couple of douchebag call-outs in that same note.
	We should give him...
	Do you have them handy?
	Yeah, you got a bunch of friends who listen to the show.
	I haven't read any donations from them lately.
	So the following people need douchebag call-outs.
	Ready?
	Yep.
	Scott Hodgson.
	Douchebag.
	And by the way, he's loaded, so he deserves a double douchebag.
	Douchebag.
	And Tom Capote.
	Douchebag.
	From the Capote family.
	Really?
	From the Capote family, no less.
	Yeah, well.
	I wonder if he's related to Truman.
	All right.
	Sid Incognito in Melville, New York.
	He's one of our few Indian knights, as he mentions.
	That's very good.
	Checking in and donating to encourage John to keep us up his coverage of Indian news.
	Well, a big story this week has been Indian government's clumsy censorship of social media, including accidentally taking down the Twitter account of the Minister for Communications.
	Yeah, that was good.
	That was very funny.
	Yeah.
	Please give me a science jingle.
	Why?
	Because it works.
	By the way, if Adam is still intent on using weird alternative medical treatments, I recommend air candling.
	It may be completely useless, but at least it's hilarious.
	I'll give it a shot.
	559 from Sir Sid.
	Tim McCoy in Louisville, Kentucky.
	5033.
	I'd like to call out Brian of Louisville, Kentucky for being a douchebag.
	Douchebag!
	He's been listening and talking about the show after much persuasion to listen but has not donated.
	I would like to send out karma to his folks who are both being jerked around by the healthcare system right now.
	No kidding.
	You've got karma.
	Brad Lupton, we had a lot of weird numbers today.
	Kyle, Texas, right down the street from you, $50.08.
	Great job, guys.
	I've been really laughing a lot more at y'all's back and forth banner.
	I also find that when John is in a bad mood, he's funnier.
	And he spits it at him more.
	Thank you.
	Okay.
	Thanks again for your hard work.
	Thank you for your donation, Brad.
	Sergio Gasparini, also one of the editors of the Dvorak Uncensored blog in Surbiton, Surrey.
	$50.
	I wanted to make an extra special request from Karma.
	My hunt for a new place to live has not gone well.
	I need Karma for this and for my job as well.
	Since next Tuesday I have a meeting with my boss and the head of HR. I don't think it would be for a raise.
	Keep up the good work, Adam.
	As an engineer, I don't find it hard to believe that the Curiosity Lander made it to Mars.
	I find it a very exciting place indeed.
	Peace out.
	Well, why don't you post all those UFO pictures on the Dvorak.org slash blog, which apparently were pixel, dead pixels in the camera.
	I mean, please.
	They're really laying it on thick now.
	Anyway, here's some good karma for you, because you deserve that for your job and place to live.
	You've got karma.
	You've got karma.
	$50 also from Terence Knapp in Wilguru, Queensland, Australia.
	Also $50 from Andy White in Nina, Wisconsin.
	Been a listener since show one.
	I'm getting by just getting by.
	It took this long to scrimp up and save.
	I need a de-douching Italian version to shut up slave and a much needed job karma.
	You've been de-douched.
	You've got karma.
	Mike Bernstein in Bettendorf, Iowa is our last donor on this list for $50.
	We want to thank him and everybody else.
	Make sure you go to NoAgendaShow.com, NoAgendaNation.com, Dvorak.org, slash NAN, ChannelDvorak.com, slash NAN. Help us for the next show, which will be show 439.
	Use a club member or two, 439.
	I have exciting news, John, before we end our segment.
	In order for us to make some extra cash, I'm not quite sure what happened.
	But I received not one, but two auditions.
	Ooh!
	And they're both interesting.
	And I was wondering, you know, because of course, if I ever land one of these, we'll split the proceeds, which could be big.
	These are national commercials, national radio commercials.
	I don't know if we should do...
	They're both pretty short, but one is for Proactive, which is...
	Isn't that the stuff that you put on your face if you have pimples?
	Yes, for acne.
	And it can make you crazy, I think.
	But the other one, maybe more interesting, is for Taylor Swift's web announcement.
	And I'm thinking maybe we should do that one.
	Would you like to produce me?
	Yeah, yeah.
	Ready to go.
	Let me give you the specs here.
	So, this is for Sony.
	Taylor Swift web announcement.
	Internet.
	Specs.
	18 to 28 year old cool male.
	I fit the profile.
	Positive.
	Reading should not feel rushed, but needs a few beats and should fit within 30 seconds.
	No more than two takes, please.
	Hold on a second.
	Since we're going to go this far, I want to get a stopwatch out.
	Hold on.
	There's got to be a couple online ones here.
	The clock on the computer will do it.
	I have a clock with a second hand.
	Okay, I'm going to give you the 3, 2, 1, and you hit it.
	Ready?
	But you need to amp me up, man.
	I got it.
	Listen, I have to be...
	Oh, you got it.
	This is going to be an easy one for you because you are the cool guy.
	I think you've got to be careful.
	You're so good, potentially, that you might talk too fast because this is a 30-second commercial, right?
	Well, but it's more...
	It's more copied than...
	Well, let's see how we do it.
	Well, let's do a run-through before we do the two takes.
	That way we get the timing down.
	Okay, so here comes my take one.
	What, three?
	Well, hold on a second.
	Adam Curry, Vox Agency, Taylor Swift web announcement.
	Three?
	You've got to do that kind of thing first.
	Okay.
	Yeah, but this was a reference.
	Yeah, but I can edit that later.
	I can edit that later.
	You're assuming you're going to hit it.
	Okay, ready?
	Three, two...
	This is...
	What?
	You know, you do three, two, and then one is silence.
	Well, I'm watching this clock.
	I've got to do...
	All right, you do three, two, one, and I'll start.
	Okay, got it.
	Are you ready?
	Yeah.
	When I say one, start.
	Three, two, one.
	This is Taylor Swift.
	She loves to give the Sony NEX5R as a gift.
	She also loves to give back to her fans, which gave Sony an idea.
	As Taylor promotes her upcoming album Red, Sony's giving you the chance to come along as her personal photographer.
	You'll document every amazing moment with the Sony...
	Fuck.
	You'll document every amazing moment with the Sony NEX. But first, you'll need to submit a portfolio of your best five shots.
	And then Taylor comes in and says, And who knows, maybe you'll get to join me on the road and use the Sony NEX to capture it all.
	So how do you think I did on the read there?
	I thought you started off crappy, but when you came to the line, which gave Sony an idea, you got your voice to the point where I'd like to hear the whole thing done that way, which is more of a close to being a surfer.
	Okay, all right.
	Close to being a surfer, but not duty.
	Okay, got it.
	Okay.
	Ready?
	Yep.
	Three, two, one.
	This is Taylor Swift.
	She loves to give the Sony NEX 5R as a gift.
	She also loves to give back to her fans, which gave Sony an idea.
	As Taylor promotes her upcoming album Red, Sony's giving you the chance to come along as her personal photographer.
	You'll document every amazing moment with a Sony NEX.
	But first, you'll need to submit a portfolio of your five best photos.
	What do you think?
	You came in, uh...
	If you can edit it so you can add about 5 seconds, you came in at about 25.
	Did you like the read, though?
	Yeah, I like the read, but I'd like to get a read, one more read.
	And I like that read.
	But I'd like to get one read where you really amp up that goofy sound that you have in there.
	It's just not quite maxed out where it's really attractive.
	It could be really attractive if you push the surfer.
	Push the surfer?
	Yeah.
	Okay, count me down.
	Three, two, one.
	This is Taylor Swift.
	She loves to give the Sony NEX 5R as a gift.
	She also loves to give back to her fans, which gave Sony an idea.
	As Taylor promotes her upcoming album Red, Sony's giving you the chance to come along as her personal photographer.
	You'll document every amazing moment with a Sony NEX. But first, you'll need to submit a portfolio of your five best photos.
	He still came up short about three seconds, but I think that's fine.
	I like that one.
	Do you think I nailed that?
	I think it could have been even more over the top.
	Really?
	We've done the over the top and the phone has not been ringing.
	Yeah, but this is asking for that.
	I mean, your other ones have been asking for the serious gentleman.
	This is asking for some young kid who is thrilled with Taylor Swift.
	He thinks she's the greatest singer in the history of pop music.
	And she's so pretty.
	Amp me up.
	You've got to amp me up.
	Amp me up.
	She's pretty.
	You're in love with her.
	You think it's fantastic.
	And this would be an opportunity for anybody.
	Count me in.
	I'm ready.
	3, 2, 1.
	This is Taylor Swift.
	She loves to give the Sony NEX5R as a gift.
	She also loves to give back to her fans, which gave Sony an idea.
	As Taylor promotes her upcoming album Red, Sony's giving you the chance to come along as her personal photographer.
	You'll document every amazing moment with a Sony NEX. But first, you'll need to submit a portfolio of your five best photos.
	Yeah.
	I think I nailed that.
	Well, I think it was good.
	It was, yeah, I liked it.
	Anyway, that's what I would like.
	If I heard that, I'd say, I'm going to put this guy in the considerate blog.
	Please help us!
	We need the help!
	Don't put me through that!
	And it's only one birthday today, and it's a real easy one that I remember, as it was almost 22 years ago today.
	In fact, tomorrow, my daughter, Christina Valerie Curry, turns 22.
	And of course, we congratulate her from all of her buddies here at the Best Podcast in the Universe.
	It's your birthday, yeah!
	22, man, you believe that?
	Hello?
	22.
	Yeah, 22.
	And we have a...
	Does she even listen to the show?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah, sometimes.
	Her boyfriend listens religiously.
	Yeah, well, he's a good guy.
	Yeah.
	Like, my daughter's not?
	My daughter's not a good guy now?
	She's not a guy.
	She's a girl.
	Two knightings, John, if you don't mind drawing the blade.
	There you go.
	He coughs as he draws the blade.
	Oh, no, it's a machete!
	Corey Watilo and Greg Simonich, step forward, please.
	And it should be Corey Watilo.
	That's how you pronounce it officially.
	Both of you have donated to the No Agenda Show, the best podcast in the universe, the amount of $1,000 or more.
	Hereby, I pronounce the both Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	Hereby, it is Sir Corey and Sir Greg.
	Come on down at the Knights table.
	Please, you're welcome for your hookers and blow, your rent boys and chardonnay, your winches and beer, your hot pants and booze, or bong hits if you're into them.
	Thank you for supporting us.
	It really does help.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah.
	That's all we get.
	That's all we do.
	We don't pay.
	We don't sell out to anything, even though we do.
	We just throw any commercial things around.
	We didn't even get to...
	They shouldn't give us money for doing that.
	We didn't even do the proactive commercial.
	But I know.
	I didn't want to do that either.
	A little too much.
	Hey, do you know the show White Collar?
	White Collar.
	It rings a bell.
	Yeah, I've never seen it.
	Let me just see.
	White Collar series, I guess.
	It's probably on, what is it on?
	USA Network.
	Oh, so it's probably popular.
	No, USA Network gets good ratings.
	It's not a dog.
	No, USA Network's really good.
	Someone sent me a clip and said, you know, it's obvious the writers on that show listen to the best podcast in the universe.
	Proof is here.
	Our government has endorsed a cornucopia of questionable programs.
	Stargate, MKUltra, the space shuttle.
	He has a point.
	Excellent.
	Stargate.
	You can't make that up.
	I mean, you're listening to no agenda if you're rattling off Stargate, MKUltra in the same sentence.
	Yeah, well, either that or you're stuck in the 60s.
	Actually, there was a new movie out, which looks like a very fun kind of movie, if you're just into something kind of dumbo.
	It has...
	What's his name?
	Roseanne Barr's husband.
	Tom Arnold is in it.
	It's called Hit and Run.
	And it's, I guess, the story...
	They got divorced.
	Ex-husband.
	And they got...
	I guess it's like from the makers of The Hangover.
	So it's going to be a fun movie.
	Guy's a bank robber, but it's in the witness protection program.
	He stiffs his fellow bank robbers, and then they find him, and then Tom Mulder's protecting him.
	It's one of these, you know, lots of crashes, fast cars, hot chicks.
	Kristen, Kristen, what's her name, isn't it?
	Kristen Hot Chick?
	Stewart.
	I don't know if it's Stewart.
	There's a lot of Christens, apparently.
	Am I going to say Kristen Bell, maybe?
	Kristen Bell.
	Yeah, Kristen Bell.
	Kristen, the hot one.
	So, there is a piece of blatant, blatant pharmaceutical promotion in it.
	Because these movies are always sponsored by the car company.
	A lot of product placement.
	So, it's a whole industry.
	Big, big, big time.
	But it was surprising when I heard this, when I was sent this clip and found out what it was really for.
	What I'm thinking about.
	Okay, I know the specifics, but I know it's some kind of useless racket that's keeping you from concentrating.
	You don't know squat.
	I could be thinking about the cure for cancer.
	In fact, I may have just cracked it, and now you're trying to get me to erase it from my hard drive.
	You couldn't cure a UTI if you owned a cranberry farm.
	Hey, I have never had an infected urinary tract.
	Oh, really?
	No, I have not.
	And you've never had HPV either?
	No.
	All right.
	No human papillomavirus.
	Watch your mouth.
	Watch your mouth.
	I was vaccinated.
	I was vaccinated.
	Because unlike you, I was born after the polio vaccine.
	What are you talking about?
	How about that, huh?
	Not only does it just say HPV, he actually says human papillomavirus.
	And then she says, I've been vaccinated.
	What was this?
	Hit and run.
	It's the worst kind of sick propaganda.
	I wonder what they paid for that to be in the script.
	You know that's not in the script, the original script by the writer.
	How many guys say, baby, you might have the human papillomavirus?
	Yeah, that's real normal talk, isn't it?
	Yeah, that's just total realistic dialogue.
	Right along all those crashes.
	Yeah.
	That borderline clip of the day.
	Well, I don't want to go too lightly on the clips of the day.
	Yeah, it's probably our best.
	So I was scanning around.
	I got kind of an offbeat clip because I never heard this story before.
	There's this actor, Luca Barbareschi, who plays an Italian detective on Fog and Crimes.
	It's a...
	One of these...
	These murder mysteries are real popular in Europe nowadays, especially out of Sweden and Italy and I think France to a lesser degree.
	And they're just...
	They're doing a back...
	This is one of those things where after the show's over, they're talking about these people.
	And they told this story that I've never heard this story and it just seems like...
	Excuse me.
	It's exactly what...
	To show people the power of the media, I think there's a couple of messages in this story, but listen to this.
	In addition to his acting career, Barbareschi is a well-known figure in Italy because of his political involvement, having served as a member of parliament since 2008.
	He became famous in 1980 through his association with the notorious horror film Cannibal Holocaust, a film so realistic its director was arrested on murder charges.
	Barbareski was one of four actors killed in the film who signed contracts requiring them to stay out of all media for a year in order to fuel rumors that the film was an actual snuff movie.
	Only when the contracts were canceled and the actors appeared on a television show were the charges against the filmmaker dropped.
	What a great promotional campaign.
	No kidding.
	We should be doing that.
	We get disappeared.
	It's just like, oops, never heard from him again.
	They're all gone.
	Wow, that's fantastic.
	Yeah, but the drawback was they arrested the director.
	Yeah, for killing him.
	Well, maybe for actually killing him.
	That's all.
	The Italian justice, you know, that poor woman from Washington or Oregon who was stuck in the Italian justice system for all that time for supposedly killing someone.
	Killing her roommate.
	Yeah, her roommate.
	I mean, you get stuck in that.
	I don't know.
	It's probably best to cancel the contract and bring these guys out of hiding.
	Wow.
	That's awesome.
	You know, I'm a little pissed off, actually.
	There was a fantastic, and I think it still exists, maybe we even have a bigger shot at it now, a great opportunity for some no-agenda PR. Because you know about this guy who got kicked off the plane for wearing a TSA shirt?
	An anti-TSA shirt?
	No, I don't know about this.
	Oh, my God.
	I mean, that surprised me, but...
	Oh, no, no.
	This completely should have been our T-shirt.
	Listen.
	Well, booted from a flight for wearing a silly T-shirt?
	That's exactly what a 31-year-old doctor, a student from Buffalo, New York, says happened.
	A reject Guha says it was his shirt that caused an airline supervisor to pull him off a flight, forcing him to rent a car and find his own way back home.
	This is the shirt that he says sparked it all.
	As you can see, it has a mark, Department of Homeland Security seal.
	Around it are words, bomb, ZOMG, ZOMG terrorist, and alert-level blood red.
	Run, run, take off your shoes.
	Now, a regent did pass the TSA security.
	It was the pilot and airline personnel that decided he couldn't fly.
	Why can't it be...
	No agenda show says take off your shoes and shut up, slave.
	TSA, run, run.
	And that would be on the news.
	It should be our shirt.
	Yeah, well, this thing's, you know, I don't know who did that shirt, didn't get much credit for it either.
	No, but they show the shirt on full frame.
	Yeah, yeah, that would have been good.
	It reminds me that I saw a guy that had a t-shirt issue once.
	They left him on the plane.
	I took pictures of it and blogged it.
	And the guy was pretty funny about it.
	He had a shirt on.
	He was a black guy.
	He had a shirt on.
	That said, things that make my dick hard.
	And then there was a list.
	Do you remember the list?
	I can't remember the list.
	I have to look on the blog, but I think one of them was, like, number eight was your mom, something like that.
	The thing was offensive in some funny way, but it was quite hilarious, and there was a big fuss on the plane, stall to take off.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, and so they made him put it, somebody found a jacket, a crew jacket or something, and he had to put it on throughout the flight.
	Some old lady was complaining about it.
	Listen, I fly once in a while.
	After she found a penny, the bottom of her purse, she looked up and saw this guy, and then she bitched about that.
	So, I know you probably didn't see this.
	The story might have been in the New York Times that you received yesterday, or maybe even the Sunday Times, but they had a video special on the NewYorkTimes.com website, which I'm pretty sure is to discredit Republicans and George Bush, but it's part of a documentary about a whistleblower, an NSA whistleblower.
	His name is William Binney.
	Are you familiar with this guy?
	The name rings a bell, but no.
	William Binney...
	I might, actually.
	Let me look him up.
	William Binney is the guy who blew the whistle on...
	What is the name of it?
	Something Wind.
	Basically, the NSA warrantless wiretapping program, which was...
	Yeah, this was a program named the Terrorist Surveillance Program.
	What was it called?
	Stellar Wind.
	That's what it was.
	Stellar Wind.
	Okay.
	Stellar Wind.
	And so there's a little eight-minute clip.
	And, of course, you can find it in the show notes, 438.nashownotes.com.
	I pulled three short clips from this.
	The last one, though...
	It just blew me away when I heard what he was actually saying, and I think it warrants playing on this program.
	So here he is setting it up because he created the back-end data mining, which was initially intended for terrorists, and that order to create this system was given before September 11th, but then after September 11th something interesting happened.
	I was breaking different codes and data systems and doing data analysis against the Soviet Union.
	After 9-11, they took one of the programs I had done, or the back end part of it, and started to use it to spy on everybody in this country.
	So that was a program they created called Stellar Wind.
	That was the separate and compartmented from the regular activity that was ongoing because it was doing domestic spying.
	All the equipment was coming in.
	I knew something was happening, but then when the contractors I had hired came and told me what they were doing, it was clear where all the hardware was going and what they were using it to do.
	So, against the Russians.
	By the way, we, of course, are also official whistleblowers, John, you and I. What do we blow?
	Oh!
	So then he has...
	Who was the guy from the Pentagon Papers?
	Who was that reporter?
	Ellsberg.
	Ellsberg, right.
	He wasn't a reporter.
	No, he was a whistleblower.
	He was a whistleblower, wasn't he?
	Oh, yeah.
	Big time.
	He's the original great whistleblower.
	So he sits down with them.
	They're in a pub.
	And he shows them his Blackberry and asks them a question we all kind of know the answer to.
	Somebody told me that they can listen to what we're saying by my having this, even if it's turned off.
	Yes.
	Here's the real brand design.
	Every domain.
	Think of a domain as an activity.
	A specific type of activity.
	Notice, by the way, he uses the word domain, which is the same word the general, the major general used at the beginning of the show.
	He talked about the cyber domain.
	So I give this credibility because of that.
	Phone calls.
	Or banking as another domain.
	So if you think of graphing each domain, and then each graph and turning it into the third dimension, the trick now is to map through all the domains in that third dimension, pulling together all the attributes that any individual has in every domain, so that now I can pull your entire life together from all those domains and map it out and show your entire life.
	So you'll recall when we had the Time Magazine Mark Zuckerberg cover article with Zuck on the cover.
	Inside the article, which very few people picked up on, was that the director of the FBI, Robert Mueller, Sticks his head in around the corner of the conference room where the interview is taking place and says, and I quote, Hey, I was in the building, just wanted to say hi.
	And when you hear the words that William Binney uses in this last clip, you'll be surprised.
	The purpose is to monitor, be able to monitor what people are doing.
	You build social networks for everybody.
	That then turns into the graph, and then you index all that data to that graph, which means you can pull out a community.
	That gives you an outline of the life of everybody in the community.
	And if you carry it over time from 2001 up, you have that 10 years' worth of their...
	I mean, am I going crazy?
	Did I just hear him say, you create social networks, then you get the graph, the social graph, and then you can create a timeline.
	This was a joke I used as a one-liner in the show Person of Interest, which I recommend to all No Agenda listeners, which is about a geek who invented this system that he's talking about, which is a little more advanced in the fiction.
	But he did say, in one show, he comes out and says, his associate says, What do you mean you invented Facebook?
	He says, oh no, yeah, we invented Facebook.
	There's a lot of information we couldn't get from the public, but we realized that they just voluntarily give it up to everybody on Facebook, and it's a bonanza.
	People just tell you, oh yeah, this is what I'm doing.
	Put together Facebook, Foursquare, Twitter to a lesser extent.
	But Facebook and Foursquare are the two that keep track of everything you do.
	And there's a couple of other of these stupid sites.
	Well, the thing that you probably don't know, maybe you do, is that Facebook has now been forcing their timeline.
	Yeah, I know about the timeline.
	Right.
	And people love the timeline.
	No, they hate it.
	People hate the timeline.
	No, no.
	Leo loves the timeline.
	Really?
	Really?
	Yeah.
	He goes on and on about how great it is.
	And I've heard other people love the timeline.
	I don't think you're right.
	Your wife is...
	No, there's a whole movement called, I just got timeline, I just got the timeline.
	Your wife was complaining about getting the timeline.
	And she's hardcore.
	Yeah, well...
	She was bitching, like, F you Facebook, I don't want the timeline.
	Literally.
	I follow her on Facebook.
	I'm friends.
	Friends with her.
	So for some reason, I picked up a lot of generals in the clips today.
	And this one really made me angry.
	Because at first I thought, oh, this is a good guy.
	This is former General Corelli.
	And he is on a mission to remove the D from PTSD. Which I think is probably very correct.
	So post-traumatic stress disorder, he feels that it's stigmatizing by saying it's a disorder.
	You could call it condition, disease, but he just wants it to be post-traumatic stress.
	And so he was interviewed on, I think maybe it was a local channel.
	I can't remember where I got the clip from.
	But when I found out what's really behind this, I actually just got angry.
	Listen to this.
	Today he is CEO of One Mind for Research, an organization seeking more solid answers on what's been an inexact science.
	We have not gotten anywhere in having the kind of diagnostics we need to prove with any kind of certainty whether somebody has battle fatigue or operational exhaustion, as it was called after the Korean War, or in this instance, post-traumatic stress.
	It's been called many things.
	One thing it is not, says General Corelli, is a disorder.
	You talk about the stigma.
	You believe PTSD. You should lose the D. I get rid of the D. Why?
	Because it's a barrier to care.
	It is not going to solve anything other than it's going to get people into treatment.
	Removing the stigma is only one step, and treatment, he says, can only go so far.
	I want to see the results of that treatment improve over time, and I really believe the only way you do that is with no-kidding research.
	The U.S. military is now reviewing all PTSD diagnoses since 2001, in part because of pressure from Senator Patty Murray.
	General Corelli calls that the wrong approach.
	Instead, he says, skip the review, go for the reversal.
	Go ahead and change them all.
	That'll take less time and you will be a lot more correct.
	In righting a wrong, if a wrong was done, then you will be going back and reviewing records where you don't have good diagnostic tools to be able to make that judgment.
	So it took me a while to figure this out.
	I was very confused because I agree with the stigmatism But then when I saw onemindforresearch.org, you must look at this website, John.
	Number one mind, number four, research.org.
	What he's saying is he wants the disorder removed so that it will no longer be something that is treated with talking or with a psychiatrist.
	Instead, he wants to drug these guys and gals.
	If you look at partners on One Mind for Research, who pops up?
	Would it be Eli Lilly?
	Would it be Johnson& Johnson?
	Oh yeah, all of above.
	This guy is an a-hole of the highest magnitude.
	And this OneMindForResearch.org, which does not appear to be a 501C3 or 4 Corp at all.
	I couldn't find them at all on GuideStar.
	They're just pretending to be all such good doers, which all they want to do is just drug people.
	And they've even got, here, if you learn about brain disorders, what's right there on the list?
	Tourette's Syndrome.
	They've got Alzheimer's, neurological trauma, and then if you look at Tourette's Syndrome, which is what I have, One of the most common and least understood neurobiological disorders.
	Notice a biological, because then you can solve it with drugs.
	Tourette's syndrome, TSI, is an inherited disorder that affects about 1 in 200 Americans.
	Males are affected 3 to 4 times as often as females.
	But this is known as a TBI, traumatic brain...
	Um...
	Eye.
	What is eye for?
	I forget what it stands for.
	But it's just like, wow!
	Wow!
	They just made him CEO, because, of course, it's a company.
	It's not an org.
	They call it.org.
	And they just want to drug these boys and girls.
	Yeah.
	I found it to be...
	Shocking.
	Shocking.
	They want to drug the whole country.
	Yeah.
	Turn us into zombies.
	Despicable.
	Go back to this list of our partners.
	Yeah, I know.
	It's sad, isn't it?
	Well, I know the list is bad enough, but...
	Click on the Jed Foundation and tell me it's not the same people just by the look and feel of the website.
	The Jed Foundation?
	Yeah.
	Is it under the T or the J? No, it's right down at the bottom.
	There's a bunch of logos.
	It's down near the bottom.
	Oh, Jed.
	What is Jed?
	I don't know.
	Jed Foundation.
	Yeah, same site designer.
	Exactly.
	Yeah.
	And there's a bunch of other stuff.
	Promoting emotional...
	Half of us...
	You know, love is louder.
	Love is louder.
	What is that?
	I don't know, but there's no link to it.
	Let's go check it out.
	This has got to be something funny.
	Love is...
	These things are insidious.
	That's because the government has given...
	Nobody wants to work for a living anymore to actually make something.
	So the government is just giving money that sets up the whole country to be frontman for the drug companies.
	Yeah, that's what it is.
	Yeah.
	For students.
	Let's see.
	Can I get some free drugs somewhere?
	Love is Louder.
	The Half of Us campaign.
	What does that mean?
	Half of Us are nuts?
	Yeah.
	Halfofus.com.
	Wow, this just keeps going on and on and on.
	No, it's a bottomless pit of crap.
	Half of Us.
	What does this mean?
	Here's the Love is Louder group foundation.
	Oh my God.
	Oh my God.
	John, go to halfofus.com.
	They've got the Batman killer right there.
	On the homepage.
	With his orange hair.
	It's not him, but it could have been him.
	Oh, his Jersey Shore's Vinny opens up about dealing with anxiety and stress.
	Oh my God, we're doomed.
	Tell your story.
	We're doomed.
	Let me see.
	This is another one.
	This is also MTV. MTV, you and the Jed Foundation.
	Oh my God, this is disgusting.
	If you go to Love Is Louder, they have a bunch of shit at the bottom from MTV again, but there's Love Is Not Abuse, which is another website.
	Here's Vinny from the Jersey Shore.
	Let's listen to what Vinny asked us.
	When I was younger, my anxiety started off with anxiety attacks, so I would have panic attacks from a young age, especially in high school.
	That's when I really started having panic attacks.
	These guys will take money for anything.
	Really bad panic attacks.
	Out of nowhere.
	There's nothing really to pinpoint it.
	That's why it's called a panic attack.
	It's out of nowhere.
	All in your subconscious.
	When my anxiety that I've been going through my whole life starts to interfere with my job, my school.
	Your job?
	That's screwing in the hot tub with a camera.
	Things that I do in my everyday life, then it starts to become a problem.
	One of your resources is actually to remove yourself from the situation at hand.
	I was on the Jersey Shore.
	It's a terrible environment for me to be in when I'm anxious because there's drinking involved.
	There's fighting involved.
	There's lack of sleep, lack of privacy.
	It's called reality show programming, my friend.
	I was like, you know what?
	In order for me to get better and to do this, I had to go home and recharge my batteries.
	We're in a pretty crazy environment when we film.
	I feel bad for my roommates.
	I feel bad for any inconvenience that I cause them.
	They really didn't have that many resources to help me.
	I was just waiting for him to say I took drugs.
	That's all I'm waiting for.
	You may be waiting for a while.
	He's just yakking for no apparent reason.
	Well, I'm going to look.
	This is halfofus.com.
	Half of us are insane.
	What half are you?
	John, odds are one of us is insane.
	Yeah, we know which one that is already.
	So, this is a bottomless pit of crap.
	Yeah.
	Wow.
	I'm starting.
	I'm looking at dosomething.org.
	Awesome things.
	We could spend a whole week going through one of these things, one after another of these.
	The campaign partners for Love is Louder includes the Ad Council, of course.
	Reachout.com.
	Stomp out bullying!
	Who's on the board of this Jed Foundation?
	Let's find out.
	Let's see.
	The director of the craft, David Craft from the Craft Group.
	Really?
	Uh-huh.
	Don't eat mayonnaise!
	Gotta be a little more creative than that.
	William Murie, who's the Senior Vice President of Marketing for Forest Pharmaceuticals.
	Oh!
	Yeah, I bet you're helping out.
	Michael Setau, the CEO of JDS Therapeutics and Nutrition.
	Oh, man.
	Oh, man.
	This is just...
	Bullshit!
	It's just horrible.
	Sorry I opened that can of worms.
	Yeah, every time you go into some of these so-called public service websites, you run into a bottomless pit of nothing but bullcrap.
	Pharmaceuticals, man.
	Magellan Health Services presents Check to the Jed Foundation.
	Oh, really?
	Huh, what a coincidence.
	Wow.
	I wonder why.
	You can push more drugs on our children.
	MTV. Should be a shame to themselves.
	I mean, yeah, I helped sell a lot of Skittles.
	But that was the colors of the rainbow.
	That wasn't pharmaceutical drugs.
	Wow.
	Oh, man.
	So let's get one more thing done here.
	I know.
	It's addictive, isn't it?
	This by itself is addictive.
	I have these tricks that I like to do, and you have yours that are slightly different.
	I like doing GuideStar.
	So I'll do Jed Foundation GuideStar.
	GuideStar is actually a good resource, and I always forget to use that.
	No, it's what I do, man.
	So don't worry about it.
	It's what I do.
	I like the...
	My thing is to cut and paste the address and suite.
	Right, right, right, right, right, right.
	And find out what else is at the same 1140 Broadway number 803.
	If there's anything.
	Did you find anything?
	No, no.
	This looks like the Jed Foundation is there.
	There's a lot of...
	It's just one of these small...
	Jed Foundation, very small.
	Net income, $782,000.
	Small.
	Small potatoes.
	Small potatoes.
	How much was it?
	$782,000.
	A million?
	Just a million?
	Yeah, not even a million.
	Small potatoes.
	Because these guys are getting money from other things they're also part of.
	But it'll be a 501c3.
	And they haven't filed their 2011 form, which they don't have to.
	I guess it's still 2010.
	Let me just see who's making money.
	See, the thing is when you do a 501c3, you don't have to list your donors.
	So they made...
	No, isn't it the four that you don't have to list?
	No, no, three.
	No, the four you do.
	So they made $1.2 million...
	Ooh, I'm sorry.
	Yeah, $1.2 million last year.
	A little under $800,000 this year.
	Total assets, $2.2 million.
	So they're doing well.
	Foundation MTVU partnered to develop a Peabody Award-winning Emmy-nominated social awareness campaign.
	So much for the Peabody's and the Emmys, huh?
	Well, they've been co-opted years ago.
	So I found the privacy policy of YouLifeline, which lists the information.
	What information does the Jed Foundation collect?
	The Jed Foundation websites, including jedfoundation.org, halfofus.com, transitionyear.org, you should look at that one, transitionyear.org, youlifeline.org, loveislouder.com, and so on.
	We may offer you registration forms or other forms that ask users to provide contact information or demographic information.
	They may also gather anonymous information which may be used by us or shared with third parties.
	This is information that does not personally identify you.
	From time to time, we may use standard cookies.
	Blah, blah, blah.
	No, not the cookies.
	What does the Jed Foundation do with the information?
	It's a nice little sheet of paper.
	Yeah, what do they do with the information?
	We may use the information that you provide us by filling out forms on our website and send you information about us and our services.
	Use your IP address.
	Blah, blah, blah.
	Links to other sites, security, children's guidelines.
	Access to your profile.
	Huh.
	I'm all for helping kids who are in trouble, but when you have the pharmaceutical companies involved, you've got to be very, very suspicious of this.
	Especially when they talk about research and treatment.
	Which goes right back to this General Corelli Oh man, I hate these guys.
	They're killing our kids.
	They're killing, just killing, killing, killing, killing.
	Killing.
	This is a good one.
	Transitionyear.org.
	Your source for emotional health at college.
	Gee, I wonder what that means.
	Free drugs!
	Wow.
	Hello, I'm a student.
	Hello, I'm a parent.
	Choose a name tag to get started.
	No, don't.
	Just don't.
	Just leave it alone.
	Just don't.
	I got another general, General Allen.
	Now, this guy we know.
	And, you know, I've been searching for this blue-on-green violence thing, trying to figure out the meme, what it's all about.
	And one of our producers actually gave me the inside scoop on why the color is blue and green.
	Green, our U.S. troops have transponders.
	So that when air support is coming in from the drones, the transponders will see our troops, i.e.
	the friendlies, pop up as green from their transponders they wear in their uniform on the battlefield.
	So that would not be the guys you want to drone.
	And blue, of course, I don't think they have transponders, but everybody else is just blue.
	So if it's blue on the screen, drone those guys, because they're Afghani police.
	And what is happening is these police forces who have been trained are turning on our own troops, the guys who have trained them.
	And I've seen this training in Iraq.
	It's total bullcrap.
	It really is.
	They're trained with wooden AK-47 mock-ups.
	And they give them a real weapon.
	They turn around and they shoot our guys.
	Well, we found out what the problem was.
	Do you know why this all of a sudden heated up?
	Why all these numbers all of a sudden just start happening quite a bit?
	John, can you guess in your farthest imagination what the reason is for this?
	Does it have something to do with poppies?
	Close.
	It's a very tough time for these forces.
	And in particular this year in Ramadan, as it is known in most of the Muslim world, Ramadan fell in the middle of the fighting season.
	The fighting season?
	Oh, the season.
	During some of the harshest time for the climate in much of the region in which we fight.
	And so the daily pressures that are on some of these troops, compounded by the sacrifice associated with fasting, The nature of our operational tempo, remembering that Afghan troops have gone to the field and they have stayed in the field, and they've been in combat now for years.
	We believe that the combination of many of these particular factors may have come together.
	During the last several weeks to generate the larger numbers that you point to.
	It's because they were hungry.
	Seriously.
	Hunger pangs.
	It's because they were hungry.
	This is all over the web.
	Hunger pangs, and that's why they went nuts, and they started killing the troops that trained them.
	Hold on one second.
	Are you leaving, honey, so you're not doing the poo?
	Oh, okay.
	Next time.
	You look very pretty.
	All right.
	I love you.
	Man, will you text me pictures?
	Yeah.
	Oh, that's Mickey.
	I thought you were looking in a mirror.
	No.
	So here's the problem.
	So one of our neighbors has a French director.
	He's in town.
	He's shooting parts of his movie in Austin.
	Funny.
	Woody Allen's in San Francisco as we speak.
	Yeah.
	But he has a French actress.
	And so our neighbor is, you know, of course, he's like a good neighbor.
	He's pimping out Mickey.
	And he said, yeah, so he's got a really nice boat.
	He said, well, yeah, come on the boat.
	And I was supposed to be picked up by them after the show.
	She's leaving now to get on the boat with the hot French actress and the French director.
	And they were going to pick me up after the show, but now I'm doing Twit.
	So now I'm going to miss all the hotness.
	Yeah, I'm doing it for the show.
	How ironic!
	Yeah, but I'm doing it for the show because I want to promote our show.
	Yes, of course.
	That's the only reason you have to do it, really.
	You always get to, when the boat docks, you can take them all out.
	No, no, because it's going to be over.
	The day will be over.
	Oh, okay.
	So I miss all that.
	And Mickey just walked in.
	She's like, looking smoking hot.
	Crap.
	Well, there you have it.
	Karma.
	Wrap us up.
	Well, let's see.
	I have...
	Well, we already know Lance Armstrong, so that art story's kind of funny.
	The only thing...
	I got a couple things here.
	Brazilian heritage is amusing because they found some slave quarters or something, and now they don't know what to do about building over it.
	But the one that got me the most was this...
	I've got it listed as hilarious idiot.
	This is a bunch of Greenpeace guys, including the head guy of Greenpeace, apparently on the horn, supposedly from the Gazprom.
	Apparently in northern Russia they decided to drill in some of the Arctic ice, and Greenpeace is against it.
	So they are now on the Gazprom platform, and they're being sprayed down with a high-pressure water hose.
	Mm-hmm.
	Now, I want you to listen to this and tell me, and you can cut it off anytime you want, but tell me how you can be on a microphone with an IFB or an earpiece of some sort.
	While you're being sprayed?
	On a Gazprom platform, which has got to be out in the middle of nowhere, while you're being sprayed with a high-speed hose and this idiot that runs the Democracy Now!
	show, she is all in on this idea.
	Right.
	We're turning now to the Arctic because we just got Kumi Naidoo on the phone.
	He's one of six activists with Greenpeace who've occupied a Russian oil rig to protest drilling in the Arctic, the rig belonging to Gazprom.
	Kumi, can you tell us what is happening?
	When we tried to reach you a few minutes ago, we got a message saying you couldn't talk.
	You were being sprayed by water cannons.
	We've been holding on for about 3 hours, but before we can hear the whole heavy balance tape, we are in a stand.
	We simply want to make the point that building in the Arctic is completely reckless and will accelerate catastrophic climate change.
	But we are terribly angry at the Arctic because they are spraying us heavily with water also.
	And it's really hard to hang on to the little tent where we are taking refuge.
	And, Kumi, who precisely is spraying you with the water hoses?
	This is the doctor. - Sure.
	The employees and the security of Gazprom.
	Gazprom, the oil company, that is probably going to be, if we don't stop them, the first company to start doing oil in the Arctic.
	And they've been there for over an hour, so we're really struggling to stay up here on the radio at the moment.
	So you are on the deck of the Gazprom oil drilling rig where they're shooting you with water cannons?
	Gazprom doesn't actually have a license to drill at the moment.
	It expired 12 days ago.
	Alright, so they have a picture up, I presume, because this is a phone call, right?
	No, there was nothing.
	It was just a picture of the guy's face.
	Right.
	So I think you and I should give this one a try.
	Now, when I heard this, I said, oh, this sounds exactly like Adam's bullcrap report.
	Let's do it.
	Let's do a report.
	I'll play the...
	Hold on a second.
	Hold on a second.
	Okay.
	We have...
	We have...
	Well, hold on.
	We can't do it anymore.
	We've got a report again.
	Adam Curry is on the deck of the USS... I don't know what ship it is, but he's on the deck.
	He's being sprayed with water cannons by the Navy.
	Yes, are you there?
	Hello, John.
	I'm the school of the Aircastrum.
	We're doing straight on the deck of the air.
	However, a green piece is good to make your guys.
	I'm going to get water counter.
	I'm going to get there.
	Adam, Adam, can you hear me?
	Who is spraying you, Adam?
	Obviously, it is from Gazprom.
	Gazprom, Russian gas bad.
	Gazprom, very bad.
	Democracy now, please say Russia bad.
	Fuck you now.
	That, ladies and gentlemen, was Adam Curry being sprayed by Gazprom.
	And we'll get the final report from him later, I see.
	He's risking his life.
	Dude, we are so in the wrong business.
	I'm telling you, we could be making millions doing this stuff for real.
	It's like such garbage.
	It's awesome.
	And that was good.
	Thank you, John.
	That was a good little theater of the mind.
	Perfect.
	Yeah, I like where you just drop words and gas prom.
	Yeah, just gas prom Putin.
	The message is clear.
	All right, everybody.
	I should have thrown Pussy Riot into it.
	Oh, damn.
	I forgot.
	Darn.
	All right, so there will be a No Agenda Producer update.
	Not with Ms.
	Mickey, but I guess the boys and girls are all getting together.
	That's always fun to listen to.
	That's coming up on NoAgendaStream.com right after the program ends here.
	I shall be on This Week in Tech...
	Live at 3 Gitmo Nation West time, 5 Drone Star State time.
	Which gun shall I pull on Leo this time?
	The Zombie Slayer?
	I don't know what other guns you've got.
	The Zombie Slayer?
	Oh, the Zombie Slayer for sure.
	Or the AR-15.
	We can do the AR-15.
	That might scare him though.
	Yeah, that's too much.
	That's overkill.
	We'll be back on Thursday.
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	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I have a bell.
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