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	This is just asking for trouble.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Sunday, May 13, 2012.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, Episode 408.
	This is No Agenda.
	This is No Agenda.
	Happy Mother's Day from Camofo here in the capital of the drone star state, Austin Tejas.
	In the morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley for a cloudy, kind of gloomy Mother's Day, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Pico de Mayo.
	For those of you who don't know, we missed an important ritual.
	Important superstition.
	Yeah, that's what a ritual is.
	It's a superstition.
	It's very important stuff.
	Red alert!
	Red alert!
	Red alert, John!
	No.
	Yes, red alert!
	We've got a red alert.
	One of our own is being hunted down, and we have to help him.
	One of our very own sysadmins, techno experts, one of our fellow nerds and geeks.
	They're hunting him.
	They're going to kill him.
	If you see him, you've got to save him and protect him.
	The agent has been missing for more than 24 hours, and there are concerns about his mental state.
	Eyewitness News reporter Amy Powell is live in Burbank with the latest on the search.
	Have you heard about this?
	No!
	This is the FBI agent who worked in national security.
	He's been missing for, wow, 24 hours, and they fear he's going to kill himself.
	He's on the run.
	Oh, so they're going to kill him?
	Yes, of course they're going to kill him.
	He knows something.
	He's obviously a techno expert.
	And so this is sending the word out.
	Oh, I mean, but listen, this is press conferences, everything.
	It's like, you know, if your child goes missing...
	There's probably code in here that says, look, if you see this guy, shoot him.
	Let's listen.
	Amy?
	John, colleagues say this is a well-liked FBI agent.
	Right now there's no indication that he's a victim of foul play, but they say he was very upset before.
	Interesting.
	How come he's not dead and they're already talking about being, there's no, he's a victim of foul play?
	They don't even know if he's dead.
	There's no evidence he's dead yet.
	Already they're talking about no evidence of foul play.
	Before he disappeared, that's why several law enforcement agencies are working desperately to find him.
	Steven Ivins was last seen by family members on Thursday evening.
	Authorities believe the 35-year-old FBI agent walked away from his home on the 1700 block of Scott Road early Friday morning.
	Investigators say Ivins was distraught and possibly thinking about killing himself.
	His handgun was not found in his home.
	I can't get into the details of why we think he's suicidal.
	Other than that, he found something out we don't want you to know, so we've got to go kill him.
	But we have been in discussion with his family, and based on just the overall circumstances, we believe there's that potential.
	A bloodhound traced a scent indicating Ivins, an avid runner and hiker, may have gone to the Verdugo Mountains.
	Today, dozens of investigators from the Burbank Police Department, the FBI, and the L.A. County Sheriff's Department searched a wilderness park in the Burbank area.
	We don't know how far he could have gone in.
	He could have slipped and fallen.
	There's many, many...
	He's an avid hiker, but he could have slipped and fallen.
	Ivins has been an FBI agent for three years, working in national security.
	Authorities don't believe the married father of a one-year-old boy was involved in any criminal activity.
	He's a very good agent and has done a great job in the Los Angeles area.
	And that's why we're taking this very seriously.
	We want to make sure that we are able to find him.
	Mm-hmm.
	They show a picture of the guy where he looks all deranged.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, you should Google the picture.
	What's his name again?
	Steven Ivins, I think is his name.
	Let me just check.
	Yeah, this is bad.
	This is very, very bad.
	Oh, yeah.
	No doubt in my mind.
	If your kid goes missing for 24 hours, they don't even care.
	No, 48 or something.
	Yeah, Steven Ivins with a P-H. Steven Ivins.
	You see the picture?
	No, I put a V. S-T-E-P-H. Yeah, so we've got to protect this guy because clearly he knows something.
	He found out something.
	He's a very, very...
	He looks like a wonk.
	Well, of course.
	They always use a picture.
	You got any crazy pictures of him?
	Yeah, hold on.
	I'm sure I got some from the shop.
	Doesn't look like an FBI agent.
	Oh, brother.
	Maybe he saw what that person in the Ulsterman report talked about.
	Yeah, right.
	Well, three years.
	It could be.
	It's very possible.
	Speaking of which, there's a new insider.
	I didn't actually want to get to this yet, but there's apparently a DHS insider.
	Now, this is not an Osterman report.
	Where was that?
	Here it is.
	And this DHS insider, I'll give you the paragraph here.
	Let me see.
	The title of the article is The Planned Reelection of Obama Revolutionary Style.
	It's nothing that we haven't already discussed, but the insider says Obama is using some high-profile people as pawns to foment the revolution.
	I heard several times from very credible sources that Farrakhan is on the CIA payroll.
	Others have been named as well.
	Not prepared to identify yet.
	Farrakhan is to coordinate the blacks and the Muslims to prepare for riots this summer using any means necessary.
	And the way they're going to do it is an attack on the president, which may or may not succeed.
	But we've kind of already seen this ramp up.
	We saw the test with that idiot who left his gun with the fingerprints in the car, all the crazy stuff.
	His AK. Yeah.
	So we've seen all this kind of being ramped up and prepared.
	So it wouldn't be a surprise.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, well, you know, there's all these weird little things that keep happening.
	I have a clip of the blogger fired.
	Are you familiar with this story?
	The Journal of Higher Education.
	They hired a woman from the Wall Street Journal to kind of balance their coverage.
	No, no, no.
	Tell me about this.
	Well, play the blogger fired.
	It explains it, kind of.
	A familiar face to many of our viewers, former Wall Street Journal editor Naomi Schaefer Riley was fired this week from her job blogging for the Chronicle of Higher Education.
	Hired to provide a conservative point of view on current issues in academe, Riley posted an item last week critical of some black studies programs at U.S. colleges.
	She was fired Monday after more than 6,500 people, many of them professors, signed an online petition seeking her dismissal.
	Naomi Schaefer-Riley joins me now.
	Welcome back to the program.
	Thanks for having me.
	So, you must have known that this was going to be controversial when you wrote the blog post.
	Were you surprised by the reaction?
	Well, a lot of the blog posts that I've written for the Chronicle have certainly earned me vitriolic reactions from commenters and things like that.
	I was a little bit surprised that people took the time to, 6,500 people took the time to sign an online petition against me.
	And I was actually surprised by the dismissal, ultimately, that the Chronicle caved to this pressure.
	Well, one of the criticisms is that you didn't read some of the black studies dissertations that you criticized.
	Obviously, you wrote what you did based on their titles and descriptions of them, but is that a fair criticism?
	Well, I... You sent me this article, so explain exactly what this is.
	It's in the show notes, by the way, under survey says.
	Yeah, it's in the show notes because I had this, because I started looking into this thing, what the hell is this all about?
	Because what, why, she's a blogger.
	Yeah.
	Fired blogger.
	Yeah.
	And I'm thinking, what's the big deal here?
	Bloggers have no job.
	Isn't that kind of the whole deal?
	Yeah.
	And so anyway, so I'm looking into it and I'm reading all the articles and every single article, especially the ones from the left, are criticizing her for being, you know, callous and a racist and all the rest of it.
	But nobody would link to the article.
	I mean, this is always something of a problem, but this was out of control, unlinking.
	So I finally went to the Chronicle itself and I got lucky because I guess I kept it up even though they have a little disclaimer in front of it.
	I found the article which is linked in the show notes.
	And it's lame.
	There's nothing that would warrant getting fired.
	She just said that the Black Studies programs do a lot of stupid theses and she named a few of them with dumb titles.
	And she says it's crazy.
	It was a little blog post.
	So you get a petition?
	Well, this is the educational industrial complex at work, right?
	Yeah, and this is also part of your thesis about everything.
	There's actually two things, and I'll credit you with pretty much identifying them earlier, probably than I did, which is race wars, you know, let's get a little race action going here, and the freedom of speech issue.
	I mean, this is a freedom of speech type editorial that she wrote, or a little crazy little blog post.
	Well, there's something else that I noticed in the past few days.
	And it actually has been taking place over the past several weeks.
	It's now a status symbol for you to do the commencement speech at an important university.
	Because then you get to wear the robe, and you get a sash, and you wear a crazy crown or whatever.
	And everyone does it.
	Lucy Napolitano did one.
	Of course, we saw Mitt Romney, the President, the First Lady.
	Everyone's doing a commencement speech.
	And this is, it's like, you know, you have to go and suck off the most important university and these guys must be incredibly powerful.
	Well, you know, the Romney thing makes a little sense because Romney's still distrusted by the conservatives, and so he gives a commencement speech at, of all places, Liberty University, which is, I don't even know if it's accredited.
	I'm not even sure that you could take a transfer of credit from Liberty University to Harvard.
	I don't think, I don't know.
	You could probably transfer to L.A. Community College.
	Well, that's doubtful.
	Yeah.
	But anyway, it's a right-wing school, let's just put it simply.
	A right-wing religious evangelical school, to be more specific.
	So he gave this boring...
	The thing is, these students would much rather have somebody more interesting.
	I mean, the speech was boring.
	Well, they're all boring.
	Yeah, all these people are very boring.
	Someone posted a pitch letter from Singularity University.
	I've linked it in the show notes.
	408.nashownotes.com So I have the scan of it.
	It's from Ray Kurzweil.
	And by the way, their letterhead, it says SingularityU at AOL.com.
	How forward-looking are those guys?
	That's nuts.
	They don't even have their own domain name?
	Apparently not.
	I don't know.
	Wow.
	They have Singularity.org, but it's Singularity at AOL.com.
	They could have done a forward.
	How hard is that?
	So it's Dear Carbon Mass.
	They're cute about it.
	Oh, how cute.
	Yeah.
	Dopamine and water mass.
	Yeah.
	Dopamine from my ventral tegmental area is flooding my mesolimbic pathway, which is crudely if commonly called delight, at the fact that I can offer you acceptance to Singularity University, which is in no way affiliated with Scientology.
	You are one of only 40 students whom we wish to extend the invitation to give us $25,000.
	This is a great pitch letter.
	And then it just goes on and on and on and on.
	Your tuition covers room and board, hyperbaric dorm pod, alkalized water, the red pill, and world-class speculative instruction.
	Because, you know, they had another one of these gatherings.
	I think it was a reporter from The Guardian, I think, went.
	You know, Aston Kutcher's there.
	You know, it's bullcrap.
	These people are a-holes, too, most of them.
	Well, you know, this came about from Kurzweil's concept of the singularity, but Kurzweil, for a long time, I've always felt was...
	I find him freaky.
	Unstable.
	I mean, I've met him a couple of times, and I had him on the Silicon Spin show, and he seemed unstable then, too.
	People worship him, though.
	In Silicon Valley, people worship him just because he said men and machines will meld.
	Yeah, I know.
	It's just because of a science...
	It basically has a science fiction mentality about the way the future is going to go.
	And the machines will take over and we'll be their slaves kind of thing.
	Yeah.
	And the funny thing is there's a lot of people that believe that.
	I mean, Bill Gates...
	Yeah.
	Has never said it, I know publicly, but I know that he said it.
	He's always thought that software would end up ruling the world and we'd be its slave.
	Literally.
	And this is not like, you know, figuratively.
	This is actually what he thinks.
	And so Kurzweil is in this camp and it's kind of creepy and he has zero sense of humor at all.
	I mean, I've never seen the guy even smile anymore.
	I really think he's not stable.
	Unstable.
	Meanwhile, there's all these a-holes at that Singularity University, which is not accredited for anything that I know of.
	And I don't even know what the point of it is.
	What could you get your degree in?
	It's a conference.
	It's just a swanky way to sell a conference.
	Because you go there, there's a whole bunch of cool people.
	And arguably, there's cool people that you'd want to meet.
	And, you know, it's a conference.
	It's just a conference, only it's sold in a different way.
	And it's very expensive.
	Which is the way to do it.
	Oh yeah, well, it's definitely the way to go.
	In the morning, John C. Dvorak.
	In the morning to you, Adam Curry.
	In the morning to all ships at sea.
	Subs in the water.
	Boots on the ground and feet in the air.
	And FBI agents on the run.
	We're here to protect you.
	And all of our human resources in the chat room, noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net.
	Thank you so much for tuning in.
	We bring this program to you twice a week.
	It is a podcast you can get at noagendashow.com, but of course you can always listen live and join in the chat.
	Keep us honest.
	Keep them honest.
	We hold on to the value-for-value model.
	Before we explain that, I'd like to give you a brief example of how news works.
	This is a great example from MSNBC, which was aired just this week.
	The host is Tamron Hull.
	And, John, you might just want to explain, because you've done this a lot.
	You see the host, and they bring up a topic, and they bring in two boxes.
	Sometimes it's a multi-box.
	Yeah.
	You can have like four, five, four, six, eight.
	I've seen eight.
	Yeah, eight.
	Octobox.
	Octobox, yeah.
	You can have a whole bunch of pundits talking.
	It's a technical marvel.
	And they're all set up, and they're all prepped with what they're supposed to say, correct?
	Correct.
	Well, yeah, but it's not like a talk show, like the Letterman show or anything, where they actually go over it.
	What they do is they ask you about what your opinion is on the topic, and then they might suggest that, well, maybe if you had a different opinion, you could be on the show.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, seriously.
	How's that worked out for you, John?
	You get asked back a lot?
	Sometimes you can't have the opinion.
	I mean, I have a lot of, when I was, it was so obvious, I cannot use that, I cannot state that opinion because I can't pull it off.
	I don't believe it.
	So they're basically asking you to project a certain opinion if you can agree with it.
	Yeah, they want to balance the coverage.
	Can you say something bad about this?
	Or can you say something good about this?
	Or what do you think?
	And if you have some real interesting idea, which I tend to get on for this purpose.
	So yeah, the way I see it is this is some screwy thing they never thought of.
	Then you're gold.
	Because that's cool.
	It takes away all the pressure off the writers.
	Right.
	Well, so this is about the obvious hit job where Obama comes out and says, gay marriage, I'm all for it.
	And then a day later, coincidentally, we find out that Mitt Romney beat up some gay kid in high school.
	Yeah, no, that wasn't the setup.
	That was great.
	And so this guy's supposed to talk about the coverage of it, and he goes off script from the minute it happens.
	But what's interesting is the host's response, which shows you the hubris...
	And the bullcrap that these, well, of course, it's MSNBC, so duh.
	But it's nice to hear because this happens on every single channel.
	We have it, Tim, and the point is he's doing local television.
	That's a local reporter asking about something that is important to the people of that particular state.
	And his response, you know, people are raising an eyebrow about it.
	Okay, well, I'll talk about the marijuana in one second, but what you're doing here is a typical media trick.
	You hype up a story, and then you justify the second day coverage of the story by saying, oh, well, people are talking about it.
	Here's how Romney responded to it.
	So this guy, like, whoa, whoa, don't tell everyone how it works, you idiot.
	I can just hear the producer going...
	You don't have to answer a single question I ask you.
	And you didn't have to accept the invitation to come on.
	You knew what we were going to be discussing.
	Hang on, Sam.
	Hold on a second.
	What is this?
	What do you mean?
	I just told you.
	No, but you're going to have to tell me again, because I got caught off.
	I didn't expect him to go off the track this way.
	Okay, so there's always two guys, and I don't know who this guy is.
	It's irrelevant.
	Okay.
	And he is supposed to say...
	And this is on MSNBC. Yes, and he's supposed to comment by saying, well, you know, the fact that Romney is doing little local television means this is really hurting the campaign.
	You know, he's trying to do damage control, that he's a gay basher.
	Oh, okay, so he deconstructs the thing.
	Instead, he's doing our job.
	Duh!
	So, you know, we gotta get...
	I want this guy off the air.
	You know, we can't have him, like, spilling the beans and ruining our gig.
	And she says, you knew it!
	You were invited!
	And it just goes on and on.
	This is the amateur hour part of it, because she...
	She's obviously a bot.
	She doesn't have a clue about how to handle this, but she should do.
	But it's even worse.
	It's even worse.
	She's not just a bot.
	She's insulted, John.
	Hey, listen.
	The single question I ask you, and you didn't have to accept the invitation to come on.
	You knew what we were going to be discussing.
	Hang on, Sam.
	Because you're kind of in my house here.
	The problem is this.
	You're in my house.
	The story is out there.
	You're right.
	I'm not saying that we should belabor what happened 50 years ago.
	We're talking about the response by the campaign and by the governor.
	Not just on this issue.
	He says, for example...
	You are bringing up a meta story here, which is, what is Rodney's response to this other non-story?
	I'm trying to go meta-meta on you and say, here's some media treatment.
	You don't want me to go anything on you because you're actually irritating me right now.
	You don't want me to go anything on you.
	I'll whoop your ass, motherfucker!
	I'm going to be honest with you.
	Yes, you are, because you knew the topics we were going to discuss.
	You knew them.
	You agreed.
	And we are not talking or demeaning.
	Listen, 50 years ago, I was a much tougher kid probably than Mitt Romney was in high school.
	This is where she's struggling.
	She doesn't know what to do.
	Now she's making stuff up.
	The funny thing is, this is very recoverable if she was any good.
	You can get out of this and make yourself look good.
	If the person goes off the rail like that, you push them further and then you can...
	This is not a hard interview to get back on track.
	All she's doing is making it worse.
	By the way, this is clip of the day.
	Well, I'll play that in a second.
	She's so frustrated and doesn't know what to do, and she's got the producer yelling in her earpiece in her IFB, obviously.
	Oh, yeah.
	Definitely.
	And that's why she's just talking like 50 years ago.
	I don't even know how old she is, but like 50 years ago, you don't want me to go anything on you.
	Stop.
	Stop talking about the issue of whether he was bullying or not.
	He says he doesn't remember.
	To be fair, I cannot say he does.
	What I'm asking you about is how the campaign has handled this decision, handled this situation, how he handled the Colorado reporter, how he handled same-sex marriage where he said he agrees with gay parents being...
	Here she's just rolling down the list of what he was supposed to say.
	Exactly.
	She never asked any of these questions because he went off the rail right away.
	Yeah, but this is on the list.
	This is great.
	...able to adopt, but he does not agree with same-sex marriage.
	Just be handling of questions beyond the economy.
	If you're not comfortable talking about that, I am A-OK, but you're not going to come on and insult me.
	You're not going to come on and insult the network when you...
	Insult me!
	Insult the network!
	Are you high, woman?
	We're going to talk about.
	Done.
	Let me talk to Jimmy.
	I'm done.
	Yes, I am.
	Jimmy, let me go to you.
	And I say this with all great respect because we're not joining me.
	I do the same for Tim.
	But we have to be able to have conversations and not do quote-unquote hit jobs on each other when we know we're guests on the show.
	Thank you both.
	Don't do hit jobs on each other when we're doing the show.
	Man, this is the show.
	Just play along with the program.
	Wow, that was a great clip.
	Clip of the day.
	Hit it.
	Clip of the day.
	We blocked the clip of the day right at the beginning of the show.
	I'm sorry, because I wanted to tie it to the poor donations we received for our value model.
	That's what I was trying to do.
	That's because you failed to hit the Cinco de Mayo on time.
	Yeah, that has everything to do with it.
	That's all it is.
	So I have...
	We're talking about the Romney thing.
	So some black guy was on, again, MSNBC replacing Ed Schultz.
	And he has this Cranbrook school.
	And I guess this black kid...
	Oh, he's a black man, but I guess he was a kid during the era when Romney was there, and he went to this school, which seems like, wow, that's a pretty ritzy school for a, you know, I guess he was not a poor black kid, that's for sure.
	It's a boarding school.
	And play the clip and tell me if you can figure out what he's talking about.
	I attended Cranbrook School in the mid-70s for about a year and a half.
	I witnessed all kinds of behavior from the simply inappropriate to the outright intolerant.
	For instance, there was a recording that was released on cassette that said, we're going cigar fishing today.
	No, we're not.
	We're going inward fishing.
	What's the bait?
	How many grips?
	So I'm quite acquainted with the fact that even the elite at the top level have bigotry percolating inside.
	Okay, I'm going to need some help on this one.
	If you know it, don't tell me.
	Let me listen.
	Let me listen to cigar fishing.
	Hold on a second.
	What is this?
	...kinds of behavior from the simply inappropriate to the outright intolerant.
	For instance, there was a recording that was released on cassette that said we're going cigar fishing today.
	No, we're not.
	We're going inward fishing.
	What's the bait?
	How many grits?
	So I'm quite a...
	How many grits?
	Yeah, how many grits?
	How many grits is the bait?
	Yeah.
	Wow, what a rough school.
	I have no idea what that means.
	Cigar fishing.
	A bunch of bigots.
	They're going cigar fishing.
	And how many grits?
	But he says, no, we're going inward fishing.
	I mean, obviously, there's some sort of way of producing the N-word, and the reference would be hominy grits, because black people, apparently, even though it's not just black people, but everyone in the South eats hominy grits, which is grits, which is a breakfast starch, which is quite good, by the way.
	I make grits every so often.
	Oh, I feel another no-agenda recipe coming on.
	Well, you just buy them and cook them.
	These are recipes.
	If it's going to be a recipe, it's going to be a recipe, not something people should know how to do.
	You see we have a nice header for the recipes page now?
	Cigar fishing?
	What do you think?
	So this is a crazy story.
	Like, okay.
	Yeah, right.
	A bunch of bigoted bastards, the way he has.
	I don't know.
	It's just like...
	Well, you know, no one...
	It's code.
	It's all code.
	Talk about the skull and bones and all kinds of weird crap.
	That's what college is all about, is being initiated into weird crap.
	I'm glad I dropped out before any of that happened.
	Yeah, you could have been a cigar fisher.
	Or eaten my harmony grits on the inside fishing.
	What does that mean?
	Anyway, let's thank...
	Do we have executive producers?
	It was a low show.
	Yeah, well, we have one executive producer and two associates.
	He was drunk.
	That doesn't really count.
	Keith Brown gave us $450 from Spring, Texas.
	He's probably not listening to this show because he sent his very long note in which I cut down substantially.
	Because he thinks he's going to sound like an idiot.
	He kind of does.
	But we kind of like that.
	The whole note was good.
	But it was longer than one of my columns.
	Twice as long, actually.
	Recently.
	I can try to read it the way he wrote it.
	Please accept this drunk donation at qualification for knighthood status.
	On JCD's recommended advice, I had hoped to be drunk on Laphroaig 30, but when I googled it, I found it was at least $700 a bottle.
	How about no?
	How about cigar fishing?
	I'm drinking some cheap-ass $50 McAllen instead, and I'll have to do.
	Even though I've donated before, I was still a douche at times to Adam for all his crackpot stuff, so I guess de-douche me for that.
	To his credit, he answered all my emails.
	I've since come to value you both for the extremely prophetic media deconstruction.
	How you guys see through some of this BS is amazing.
	I've also been somewhat of a douche in not contributing regularly.
	I've been a connard a long time ago doing it in small chunks.
	But I wanted to do it in one big splash to be an executive producer, but I never seem to have the cash to spare for that douchebag.
	I will now also be a regular subscriber to the 3333 Mothership Plan.
	Who knows?
	It would come in very handy.
	I cannot listen to the Sunday show because if you read any of this on the air, I'm not going to want to hear stupid shit I said.
	The way you say this is priceless, John.
	Keith Brown, Spring, Texas.
	$450.
	Hey, man, thanks.
	Thanks for the drunk donation.
	It'll be a night today.
	That's great.
	And Dame Janice Kane came in with an associate producership from Milpitas, California, 250-07.
	I hope the check clears in time for the birthday shout-out on May 17th.
	It'll be a milestone birthday for me, and a dual slide whistle serenade would make my day.
	That's usually not...
	Wait a minute.
	First of all, we've got to de-douche...
	Oh, yeah, you've got to de-douche old Keith.
	You've been de-douched.
	Hey, but don't we have a show on the 17th?
	Isn't this a...
	Well, we have to give her another call-out then.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	So, Buzzkill Jr., make sure you get her on the list for...
	If he's still listening, he usually comes to sleep.
	Stupid millennial.
	He gets up early and he goes...
	You're like, all I want is the 500 bucks a month.
	I don't care.
	Thanks to Noah Jen to keep me ever vigilant of ulterior motives.
	Ulterior she has.
	I spotted yet another scheme to harvest personal information from the general public slaves.
	I'll send more info later.
	Thanks for all your hard work.
	Finally, she says she's living the American dream just getting by.
	Nice.
	Hyperware Technologies, Los Angeles, California, $200.07, and Dame Kang was $250.07, so we have a couple of votes for the slide whistle.
	As promised, here are the double donations.
	Chuck Waters donated $25 at Hyperware.com, and Sam Shepard donated $50.
	Here's their $150 plus $50 more for me and $0.07 for the slide whistle voting.
	My offer still stands that any donations to my son's walk-a-thon will be double to no agenda.
	See Hyperware.com slash no agenda.
	Great initiative.
	I'm liking that.
	David Foley.
	Yeah, no, that's very good.
	I like that too.
	And that was it?
	Yeah, that was all we got.
	People didn't like the last show, I guess.
	And one guy was drunk.
	He doesn't even know if he heard the last show.
	Wow.
	Wow.
	I don't know how I feel about that.
	It's funny because last night I was thinking...
	Maybe you and I should write a book.
	The title of the book is Value for Value.
	And so, of course, we have to give the book away for free, right?
	And then people can donate.
	And then we can get on the speaking circuit, except we just go and then they pay us whatever they think it was worth.
	That's an interesting concept.
	Well, but our model is...
	I understand what you're saying.
	The problem is that the value for value model is alien to the way people have been raised, which is to be kind of passive and shown a lot of commercials and advertisements and information collected from them.
	Yeah, but I'm going to disagree.
	They lose their money at the store by buying some of this junk.
	I'm going to disagree because something is changing.
	And if you look at...
	Because last night, actually, we'll talk about this.
	I watched a documentary called Detocracy.
	D-E-B-T. Detocracy.
	And it's about Greece and parallels to Argentina and Ecuador.
	And this was a documentary...
	That was crowdfunded, you know, on something like a Kickstarter.
	And I'm pretty convinced that if you look at Kickstarter and you look at, you know, how that works, which I think is a brilliant idea and all of these similar concepts, essentially, it's like, you know, you go on there, you see a cool gadget, and you're like...
	That's a cool gadget.
	I would buy that for $200.
	But you know what?
	I'd buy it for $250 as well.
	That's what I think the value of that gadget is.
	So I'm going to throw $50 their way so they can get it made so I can buy it for $200.
	That is an extension of the value for value concept.
	People don't want shares.
	They just want to have the thing or whatever it is that's being offered.
	And they're valuing that by how much they want it.
	And they just tack on a little bit and say, okay, I'll throw that in.
	I don't even want your crappy t-shirt.
	Just make the thing.
	And I think that when it comes to media, because there's all these future of news conversations.
	Let's face it.
	News is dead.
	Not as in dead as in physically dead, because it's not a thing that can die.
	But it's over.
	The whole model doesn't work.
	People don't care.
	It's all about selling movies.
	And so what we do is, you know, we're actually doing, not news, but we're doing journal, we're practicing some journalism, and we're providing analysis, which is valuable to people, and they get something out of it, and then whatever they think it is, they toss it our way.
	So there is something changing, and I think that we could at least get on the speaking circuit and make some dough.
	Yeah, well...
	Look, if you're not going to help me, I'm going to do it myself.
	No, I'm in.
	Because you know how to write a book.
	I just disagree with the fact that you believe...
	Well, I can't disagree with the fact you believe, but I disagree with the idea that people have not...
	Just in general...
	Yeah, we have a lot of listeners that listen to us deconstruct things and tear stories apart and find the story behind the story, essentially, is what we do.
	Or maybe find the reason for the story, the rationale for its existence as part of a scheme, which is the movie thing, for example.
	But I still think the majority of the public, in fact, it was one of my friends, he says he can't listen to this show.
	Well, unfriend him then.
	And another friend, which is in the same group, says to me, well, you know, he has such a rigid view of the world that this disturbs him to listen to our show because we question authority, essentially.
	It upsets some people.
	There are people that cannot listen to our show because it disturbs them.
	I understand, but we're not...
	Other people like the show because it confirms what they've always believed.
	In other words, they haven't been completely taken over by the pot people.
	I understand.
	So you're saying that it's not because people feel value.
	It comes down to the same thing.
	You're saying it's a small audience.
	If you have a book, then I can get on MSNBC and bitch at this woman.
	You've been banned from television.
	I've been banned from MSNBC, that's for sure.
	Yeah, after telling him that Michael Jackson was killed.
	How crazy was I to even consider that?
	They cut you off and that was the end of you.
	Let me give you a little love.
	Yeah, I want to remind people to go to dvorak.org slash nachannel, dvorak.com slash nanoagendanation.com and noagendashow.com where you can give us some donations, get our numbers up a little bit for the next Thursday show.
	While we're talking about...
	Well, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
	Don't move right along like that.
	We have a format to follow here.
	Oh, that's right.
	We have some PR initiatives?
	We do.
	The No Agenda News app, nanewsapp.com, was approved by Apple after an extended period.
	That won't last.
	And you know why it took so long?
	And I have to give Apple some credit for this.
	They thought that this app was stealing our content.
	And so they questioned this, and the producer who was putting all this together, he sent them all the links to our, you know, where we explain our open source format of the program.
	Like, take anything you want, do whatever you want.
	If you see some value, feel free to give us some cash, because it is a for-pay app.
	I think it's $2.99 or something, or $2.95.
	And he sent them that, and I was ready to testify and send them a note or whatever, you know.
	I said, I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but Susiana.
	So they question that.
	I think that's pretty good.
	Yeah, well, that was good.
	Yeah, they were trying to protect content of somebody that may be creating it.
	Our content is open source.
	We want to remind people, if you want to put our podcast on your blog, please do it.
	Or on your radio station, your P1 market radio station.
	Anything.
	That would be a good...
	We'll go ahead and put that on Z100 in New York.
	That would be fantastic.
	Find some way to get it on the satellite.
	So even...
	Yeah.
	Because everyone listens to the satellite.
	Sure.
	We pick up...
	I tell you, I swear to God we pick up...
	Because I listen to it once in a while.
	I think that we pick up at least maybe five, ten more...
	The problem is, because I know Steve Leeds over at Sirius Satellite, and he basically hires, you know, he's content acquisition, talent, whatever.
	The problem is, they charge people for putting your content on Sirius now.
	They're so hard up, you have to pay to get a channel.
	No.
	That's no good.
	They don't have a big enough audience to pull that off.
	Exactly.
	That's why no one wants to do it.
	And the numbers of people that do listen, and it's in the, I guess, tens of thousands, it's all diluted by the fact they have like 500 channels.
	Exactly.
	You can float around for days before you find our show.
	Yeah, we'd be on channel 497.
	Good luck.
	That'll really help donations, John.
	Well, like I said, five to ten people we might pick up.
	Anyway, even if you don't like our value for value concept and don't feel it's worth any of your money, if you don't want the book, you can always do one simple thing.
	Just go out and propagate our formula, will you?
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	New World Order.
	And remember...
	Shut up, slave!
	Today, by the way, John, is not a fake holiday.
	Mother's Day is not a fake holiday.
	It is an official holiday.
	It's a fake holiday created by Hallmark.
	The Congress, by a joint resolution, approved May 8, 1914...
	Designating the second Sunday in May each year as Mother's Day and requested the President to call for its appropriate observance, and this is as per the President's proclamation today, once again proclaiming, because he gets to do all kinds of cool stuff, proclaiming this Mother's Day.
	So there was a joint resolution, May 8, 1914.
	So it's not entirely fake.
	Well, I'm not saying that it's...
	Yeah, yeah, see, mouth full of teeth.
	You got nothing to say, do you?
	No, it depends on what your definition of fake is.
	Well, obviously, there's a...
	No, you know what?
	The modern holiday of Mother's Day was first celebrated in 1908 when Anna Jarvis held a memorial for her mother in America.
	She then began a campaign to make Mother's Day a recognized holiday in the United States.
	Although she was successful in 1914, she was already disappointed with its commercialization by the 1920s.
	Well, yeah.
	Anyway, I miss my mom.
	Celebrate all over the world.
	I miss my mom.
	Do you miss your mom?
	Yeah, everybody misses their mom.
	Jarvis never mentioned mothering Sunday.
	Hey, by the way, while we're talking about this, so CNN, which is a Time Warner company, Was shamelessly, without even mentioning that they're owned by the same parent company, shamelessly promoting the Time magazine cover.
	Now, have you looked at this thing?
	That's hilarious.
	So, you know what?
	If I saw that cover, I'd buy that thing.
	That's a frameable.
	That is art, my friend.
	Art.
	Well, it literally is art, John, because when I saw this, I immediately recognized the symbolism.
	And I think that there's code in this.
	Oh.
	So the symbolism is Isis, Mother Isis, feeding her son Horace.
	Now if you go look at this, this is a very famous statue.
	Are you familiar with this?
	Yep.
	I will admit I didn't think of this, though.
	So, first of all, it's the left breast.
	Left breast exposed, it's always the left breast.
	That always signifies ISIS. And that's on a lot of symbolism throughout history.
	Isn't that even the stuff they covered up in, like, Congress or something?
	Because, you know, they've got the woman's left boob hanging out, like, oh, you can't have that on television during the State of the Union.
	You've got to cover that up.
	You know, it's crazy.
	So, I think the story...
	I mean, who gives a crap about attachment parenting?
	Whatever.
	But this kid, what is he wearing?
	He's wearing camouflage pants.
	So that would symbolize him as the...
	Because Horace was the god of war.
	Yeah.
	And I believe this is...
	And there's some other things here, like, you know, are you looking at the cover by any chance?
	No, I'm looking for Horace Pictures.
	Okay.
	I'll go look at the cover.
	You should look at the cover, because then you see right above his head is the word God.
	Because there's another story, apparently, inside God of Cricket.
	And cricket's also, if you think of cricket not as in cricket, the game, but if you think of cricket, the insect.
	Okay, we got the French rejection, god of cricket, okay, and the kid is wearing camouflage pants for some reason, which would be the god of war thing, which I think you nailed.
	This is good.
	Go on.
	So we've got, I think that this is a symbolic message that war is coming, like a real one.
	And, of course, this all has to do with...
	So cricket is...
	I don't know.
	I'm thinking maybe Jiminy Cricket, Pinocchio, like the wooden boy comes to life.
	There's something there, but just the word God is positioned so beautifully above his head.
	Yeah, exactly.
	And then the E, the god sitting on top of that one part of the letter E and it goes right to his brain.
	Right into his noggin.
	So to me, this is a symbolic thing.
	And it's also, the word French rejection up there is another one of these slams against the French, it seems.
	So ISIS was worshipped as the ideal mother and wife and the patron of nature and magic.
	She was the friend of slaves, sinners, artisans, the downtrodden, and she listened to the prayers of the wealthy.
	She's also known as protector of the dead and goddess of children.
	Now, Horus was the god of war and hunting.
	He became a symbol of majesty and power as well as the model of the pharaohs.
	The pharaohs were said to be Horus in human form.
	And the fact that he's got his camos on, I think somehow, and I don't actually know, and I don't know how symbolism works, but I know symbolism is important.
	And at a subconscious level, you know, this stuff means something to us.
	I think we probably inherently are programmed somehow to recognize this.
	To me, this was so far out of left field and so unimportant.
	Yeah, to sell magazines, sure.
	But this is a...
	And we know time is corrupt.
	We know Time Warner, where they're all seeing iLogo.
	We know that they're a bunch of creeps.
	So I think it means big war coming.
	Big war coming.
	Well...
	Well, nothing else.
	To me, it means the...
	I would say that's an interesting perspective.
	I would be more inclined to say it's the military sucking off the tit of the American public passively because the arms are laying slight down.
	He's not like holding her or anything.
	He's just like there.
	And it's like she's almost force-feeding him.
	And we do have a military that's oversized and over-budget.
	So I think it's more along those lines, personally.
	I don't think anyone's predicting war.
	I don't think it's just too out there.
	Okay.
	But we always have wars.
	I mean, we have a war now.
	Yeah, but there could be a really good one coming.
	There is a good one.
	There's a war cycle, and there is a good one coming in 2020.
	Oh, okay.
	That's way out there.
	Is that in the Red Book?
	Have you put that down that there's a good one coming in 2020?
	Yeah, I could put that down.
	There's a good one coming.
	Well, it's not a good, it's so relative.
	So we're talking about code, I did run into an interesting, remember the show Rubicon?
	Yeah, sure, it got cancelled.
	Well, yeah, but it had a whole season.
	And it was all about codes.
	And one of the things that started this storyline, people should go rent this DVD set.
	We've told you about this before.
	It's a show that was on AMC called Rubicon.
	It was about people that contract for the big spy agencies.
	And it's one of the little contractors that they're finding things out.
	And I don't want to give away this whole story.
	But it starts off...
	When one of the analysts finds coded messages in crossword puzzles.
	So apparently, according to this, Rubicon becomes life.
	A Venezuelan crossword compiler has been questioned by intelligence officers after accusations that he hid a coded message to assassinate the President Hugo Chavez's brother, Adan, in a puzzle.
	A commentator on state television said the words kill, gunfire, and Adan had been hidden in a crossword of a national newspaper.
	From Caracas, Sarah Granger reports.
	Innocent puzzle or coded message.
	This crossword got its compiler, Naphtali Segovia, into a lot of trouble this week.
	Venezuelan state television presenter Perez Pirella said a group of mathematicians, psychologists and others had studied the crossword and concluded it was a coded assassination plot.
	These kinds of messages were used frequently.
	De Gaulle's messages were famous when he sent them to the French resistance from London.
	After the accusations were broadcast, Segovia was questioned by intelligence agents and released a statement saying his work had no political dimension.
	Oh, that's good.
	I like that.
	That was going to crack me up.
	Yeah, well, you know, if I were, you know, just along the lines of symbolism, you know, your brain can actually decode this stuff quite well, I'm convinced.
	You know, you just don't, at a conscious level, you don't actually see the words until you start to circle it.
	Yeah, this is what is believed to be true.
	You know, one of these days, you and I are just going to wake up and go, must do this now.
	Kill all humans.
	Kill all humans.
	Kill all humans?
	Okay.
	I'll top you.
	I'll top you with one.
	Someone sent me this clip.
	This is from Wag the Dog.
	When was Wag the Dog?
	Was that 1990?
	It was a ways ago.
	Let's take a quick look in the book of knowledge.
	So that was, of course, Dustin Hoffman.
	Dustin Hoffman, Robert De Niro, a cast of thousands, and the whole idea was they were in order to...
	1997.
	Oh, wow, that's later than I thought.
	Okay, so it's not even that long ago.
	So there's a clip in this film which predicts the war on terror, which of course we didn't have at that time.
	That didn't come until four years later.
	And this is where De Niro's sitting in a restaurant with the Fed, which he's recognizable by the earpiece and the curly wire in the restaurant.
	And the Fed is saying, hey man, there's no war going on because we looked at our spy satellites and there's nothing going on in that country, so this has got to be faked.
	And here is De Niro's little monologue.
	I do my job too, and let me ask you something.
	Let me ask you a simple question.
	Why do people go to war?
	Why do they go to war?
	I'll play your silly game.
	Okay, why do they go to war?
	To ensure their way of life.
	Would you go to war to do that?
	I have.
	And if you went to war again, who would it be against?
	Huh?
	Your ability to fight a two-ocean war against who?
	Who?
	Sweden and Togo?
	That time has passed.
	It's over.
	The war of the future is nuclear terrorism.
	It is, and it'll be against a small group of dissidents who, unbeknownst perhaps to their own governments, have blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	And to go to that war, you have to be prepared.
	You've got to be alert.
	The public has got to be alert because that is the war of the future.
	And if you're not gearing up to fight that war, then eventually the acts will fall and you're going to be out in the street.
	And you could call this a drill.
	You could call this job security.
	You could call it anything you like.
	But I got one for you.
	You said go to war to preserve your way of life.
	Well, Chuck, this, this is your way of life.
	And if your spy satellites don't see nothing, if there ain't no war, then you can go home and prematurely take up golf, my friend.
	Because there ain't no war but ours.
	If you have not seen Wag the Dog, you must watch this movie.
	Oh, it's a great movie.
	I don't even know how they got it.
	How did they even get it made?
	I think it was because of the timing.
	It was based on a book called American Hero.
	It was done in 1993.
	And then it was obviously optioned and made into a movie.
	It came out in 1997.
	And that just happened to be a lull.
	Hmm.
	In the action.
	There was a little of that Serbian thing going on, which I think a lot of this was based on what Clinton was trying to do.
	But it just snuck in there.
	I think it snuck in there.
	It was good.
	It was good.
	It still is.
	It's a classic movie.
	You can get it streaming for free, quote, for free on Netflix.
	And all the technologies they show in there are nothing compared to what you can do today.
	I mean, they were still using blue screen, I think, instead of green screen.
	Remember those days when Chroma Key was blue?
	There's always a problem with people with real blue eyes.
	Let me talk about...
	First, Zach, one of our producers, caught me on something I apparently overuse.
	And I want you to keep an eye on me, John.
	Apparently, I say turns out quite a bit.
	Turns out?
	Yeah.
	That's from your days as a pimp.
	Yeah.
	So I don't want to be saying that too much because that can be annoying if people start focusing.
	So I'll say, well, it turns out that...
	Well, what would you use to substitute?
	Well, I was just about to ask you.
	What would a good substitution be?
	Turns out.
	Well, it turns out that...
	So what you're doing is a transitionary term.
	You're trying to switch from a statement that is wrong to what it really means.
	Right.
	And so you're using that to make the transition...
	Maybe I should say...
	You could say what's actually happening, but then you'd be using that word actually.
	Actually, as in factually.
	I could say, nothing could be further from the truth.
	But that would get boring after a while.
	But yeah, here's what you'd do.
	You'd say, nothing could be further from the truth.
	It turns out that...
	Why?
	Because.
	I'll just say, why?
	Because.
	I don't know.
	I'll think about it.
	We'll make it a contest.
	Our listeners can send suggestions for transitionary terms or phrases that are better than turns out.
	It's as bad as the fact of the matter.
	That's the problem.
	No, the fact of the matter is much worse.
	The fact of the matter is so bad when I'm watching any TV and somebody says it now, the whole family starts jumping up and down.
	Oh yeah, no.
	Mickey does the same here.
	It's like, ah!
	Making the buzzer noise.
	He CC'd you on his follow-up reply.
	Did you see that irate email from one of our listeners about my use of the word homophobia?
	Yeah, I thought that was...
	I got a CC on that.
	I read it over a little bit and I said, you know, it seems like I have much to do about nothing personally, but...
	Well, I thought it was valid.
	Why don't you summarize?
	Okay, the summary is, on the last program, we talked about the president's interview where he said he supports, or he's leaning towards supporting gay marriage.
	And then there was a, the interviewer, Robin Roberts, I think said, well, this is a huge issue in the black community.
	And then I said, well, wait a minute, you're saying the black community is homophobic?
	And his point is the word homophobic is an incorrect use of the term in that context.
	We're anti-homosexual, actually.
	I guess you can't even use the word gay anymore because that's the wrong word.
	That's not the meaning of gay.
	But there are a couple definitions of homophobia.
	And whenever you put phobia after a word, it intends to mean the irrational fear.
	Now, I use it in the aversion to context, which is also, according to Merriam-Webster, a proper...
	It's the second definition.
	Well, that's fine.
	And the third is discrimination.
	But I have to agree that using the word homophobia...
	Is in this context incorrect because a lot of people may not have an irrational fear of homosexuals.
	They may just be against gay marriage.
	Or they may not agree with homosexuality.
	But that doesn't mean it's irrational.
	And I have to agree with that.
	It's not irrational that they don't agree with homosexuality.
	That's up to you.
	And it doesn't mean that you have it.
	If you're freaking out and spinning around and doing backflips, yeah, that's kind of irrational.
	I don't know that anyone goes that far.
	But in the media, you'll hear this very often.
	They'll talk about homophobia.
	The term is a misnomer.
	That's the problem with that debate you had with this guy.
	It's kind of an accepted misnomer that people just use casually to mean you're against it.
	I mean, everything you said is all wrapped up in the word homophobia.
	But homophobia is a very aggressive word.
	That makes you, it's a shut up slave word.
	Yeah, it is.
	It is.
	It is.
	Because it basically says you can't have an opinion because you're irrational.
	So I'm going to not use that.
	I'm not going to, unless it's appropriate, but I'm not going to use the phobia word unless it's appropriate.
	That's good.
	I mean, I take that the guy was an a-hole the way he put it.
	Well, he was just being one of our listeners.
	And then I have one more, because this is the president.
	Well, I wanted to get back to something else you said in that note.
	You mentioned the word heterophobia, which is the term I like to use.
	When?
	At the club?
	What, heterophobia?
	Where do you use this term?
	I use it on this show.
	Oh, okay.
	And it refers to gays who really, I would say like a lot of gays are heterophobes in the same way a lot of straights are homophobes if we're going to make the word kind of not really mean phobe.
	And I would suggest that you run into this commonly, especially if you watch Gay USA, for example, on Free Speech TV where it has these two...
	Do I feel a clip coming?
	No, I don't have it.
	Have you been watching your favorite show?
	I could record it and I find at least two or three moments of heterophobia.
	Because they blast the crap out of people in a way that's very unfair, I think.
	Honest, honest answer.
	Assume that if you're not for gay marriage, for example, 100%, then you're an a-hole and you're a horrible person.
	And I think that's heterophobia.
	Well, this brings me to a second point.
	And I did a little bit of re-educating.
	I re-educated myself a bit on the Constitution and the concept of rights, as in the Bill of Rights and privileges.
	Because I got a couple of people sending me emails saying, Hey, man, what?
	So if the state of Texas says I can't follow my human right of getting married, then I should move to New York?
	And I'd like to remind you that marriage is not a right.
	I'm not even talking about a human right, but it's not a right.
	It's not in the Bill of Rights as per the Constitution.
	It is a privilege granted to you by the state, and they have certain terms around it.
	And someone else said something very interesting.
	He said...
	Homosexuals have the right to get married just like everyone else, but they can only marry someone of the opposite sex.
	They're actually asking for an additional privilege, which is interesting.
	You know what I mean?
	Yeah, actually, I've made that argument before.
	People, when they get into a big debate, say, well, I don't have the same rights you do.
	Yeah, you do have exactly the same rights.
	It's not a right, though.
	You can marry a woman.
	But it's a privilege.
	It's not a right.
	It's a privilege granted to you.
	That's a big difference.
	There's nothing in the Constitution that talks about marriage at all.
	It's a privilege that has been agreed to by society and laws.
	But it's also a church, you know, technically marriage is something that was done by the churches and civil unions would be something that would be done by the government.
	Which is also a privilege.
	It's also a privilege.
	These are not rights.
	And this goes back to, I'm going to put that interview with the guy who wrote the book on rights, I'm going to put that in the show notes.
	You've got to watch that and you've got to read that book.
	What the hell was the name of that book again?
	Because that was really interesting how this whole human rights thing...
	It's bullcrap!
	There's no such thing as LGBT rights.
	There's no such thing as any kind of sexuality rights.
	It's just not true.
	A right is really about possession.
	And...
	And ladies and gentlemen, it's Adam at Curry.com.
	It's important to understand the difference because people are being hoodwinked and programmed into believing certain things are rights when they're not.
	They're privileges.
	If you want to change the privileges, you've got to change the legislature of your state.
	Yeah, it's like the right to drive.
	It's the same thing.
	You don't have a right to drive.
	You don't even own your car.
	You know that?
	Who owns my car?
	You co-own it with the state.
	Unless you have the manufacturer's statement of manufacture, which you don't have, the state has that on microfiche in their archives.
	That's why they can charge you money to register.
	It's basically rent.
	You can get this, by the way.
	If you go to another state, you buy a car, you say, I'm going to take this car, so let's say you buy it in Arizona, so I'm going to take this car to California, I will only buy the car with cash if you give me the manufacturer's statement of manufacturer.
	And then you'll have to fight every single time, but then you technically do not have to register.
	You don't even have to have license plates.
	You do not have to register.
	Where did you get this one?
	Oh, you can consult the Book of Knowledge.
	There are people who have done this.
	So I could literally...
	So let's say I had a nice car.
	Stop with your dreams.
	But it's going to cost me $300 a year to register it in California.
	Yeah.
	What you're saying is if I bought the car in some, like, Nevada, and then I got this document, I can bring it into California and I don't have to register it?
	Correct.
	I thought you had to register it as permission to get on the roads.
	No, no, no, no.
	If you look at what registration is, it is not permission to...
	Now, will you be pulled over?
	Yes.
	Will you get tickets?
	Yes.
	Will you have to fight it?
	Yes.
	Will you have to go to court?
	Yes.
	Can you win?
	Absolutely.
	It may not be worth your trouble.
	No, but it's a good point.
	Yeah.
	Well, it's the same with...
	Okay, I'm going to look into this now that you've got my curiosity.
	It's the same with land, John.
	You don't own your land.
	Why do you have to pay taxes on your own land if you own it?
	Why do you have to pay taxes on it?
	You don't, because it's been incorporated under the city of Berkeley or whatever.
	You co-own it, and you own real estate.
	It means everything you do on top of it, you can own.
	But you don't actually 100% outright buy yourself the land.
	These are things people don't understand, and I've been re-educating myself.
	It's not like you can go and change this.
	Well, that's right, because you're in the process of trying to buy some land.
	Yes, exactly.
	I'm like, hey, I'd really like to own it.
	Well, no.
	This is the city of Austin.
	You must be the most boring guy at the title company when you come here.
	Well, and this is how it came up.
	Do you realize it, you people?
	This is how it came up, because the guy that I'm working with, very sweet guy, and he has a title company that he works with, and all these agents do, and then part of the deal is they wanted to use their title company.
	I'm like, why?
	What's the difference?
	And then I start looking into title companies, and it's different from buying a house.
	When you're buying land, this is a very serious contract.
	I'm like, well, what am I actually buying?
	I'd like to know.
	Now, there's going to be a third party in this, which would be, I don't know, the bank.
	But if you just leave that out of it, if I could show up with cash in hand and say, here you go, it turns out you don't actually owe it.
	And yeah, they hate me because I'm asking all these questions.
	I think they don't even want to do a deal with me.
	Like, this guy's too much pain in the ass.
	He's asking too many questions.
	Huh.
	Interesting though, right?
	Yeah, no.
	I mean, I never thought much about it because you just, you know, you get your property and you live there or whatever and then you sell it to someone else and then you get another one and you don't think about any of these other issues because they don't come up in the conversation and they don't seem to interfere with commerce in any way, shape, or form.
	But if it turns out that it's essentially just this way to steal your money, which is what you're making it sound like, Well, it's something to look into, but then again, if it's set up in such a way, this is the exact same thing I was talking about earlier.
	People have been, you know, made not to like the value for value proposition because they're just, oh no, the way it should be is free.
	It's free with advertising.
	Lots of advertising.
	Mm-hmm.
	And of course the advertising model is now being busted left and right because of DVRs and everything else.
	Right.
	Which is causing nothing but panic and then the internet's changed things and made music piracy easy.
	Whatever the case, it's like a...
	You just assume these things and I never...
	I'm going to look into this car thing because that actually...
	If that's true, that's a scandal.
	It's another column for John C. Dvorak.
	So the book is...
	Sounds more like a little booklet.
	I'm sorry.
	The book is The Last Utopia, Human Rights in History.
	Samuel Moyn, M-O-Y-N. It's in the show notes now under Human Rights, 408nashownotes.com or bigbookshow.com.
	Have a look at this interview because it's very timely when you hear everyone talking about human rights and human rights and what are rights.
	And this really is just, it's a scam.
	It really is, and it's just not true.
	It's not the correct use of the word, but yeah, we're being kind of suckered into it.
	Well, you know, I'm also reminded of the anti-tax nutballs that are out there that hate the federal income tax.
	And then they make the argument.
	I've run into a couple of these guys.
	They make the argument.
	Well, first of all, it's voluntary.
	So you don't really have to pay the taxes.
	And then they have these cockamamie schemes, which a lot of people have been suckered into and are now sitting in prison.
	Like Wesley Snipes.
	Wesley Snipes.
	Yeah, and you put your money offshore over here, and then you create a trust, and then you make the trust owned by another trust, and then that trust puts money into an account, which then you can go to the bank and use your ATM and pull the money out of the account, but it's coming from the trust that's owned by another trust, which the money's not even in this country, and it's just the whole thing, and the scheme, and it's a real, I've seen this presentation, because it's been on television, and the guy, he's just like arrows going from here to there, and somehow you get money, and...
	This is just asking for trouble.
	By the way, we will get letters for bringing this up because there's people that listen to our show that will say, this is bull crap, this works, this is great, the tax system is volatile.
	No, it's not.
	Listen, I'll tell you one thing.
	The IRS has guns and they come into your home, your place of work, with their guns.
	I've had this happen.
	They take your money.
	It might be voluntary, but you're going to get extorted for it.
	I mean, there's no way you can not pay.
	Let me tell you another crazy story.
	So I'm helping Mickey with her visa.
	And I don't want to pay a lawyer to do this.
	I can read.
	I'm a government legislation analyst.
	So I get all the appropriate forms.
	And you can download them.
	And by the way, they have them all locked, PDF. You're forced to get Adobe documents.
	Otherwise, you can't read it.
	You can't copy something out of it.
	It's like real Gitmo crap.
	And you have to get the right form, the right date.
	And I'm reading through this, and there's two things.
	First of all, the fee, and this just blew me away, the fee for her visa, $420.
	Are you kidding me?
	420?
	Are you throwing a 420 at me in government documents for immigration?
	Some joker, some stoner in Washington, D.C. I got an idea.
	Department of Homeland Security.
	Yeah.
	But the second thing, so you have to send a check for this $420, and Department of Homeland Security says, you will not receive this check back.
	We will debit your bank account for that money.
	I find that frightening.
	Well, I had to get my car repaired, and the dealership now has a...
	But I'm not authorizing.
	I'm giving them a check, and then they can use that as authorization to just say to my bank, hey, give me that money.
	That's bullcrap.
	That's what they're doing everywhere now.
	They take the check.
	I thought this was interesting.
	This is the first place I've seen do it, but I can see this happening all over.
	They take the check, and they run into some little scanner.
	Which reads everything off the check, and then the scanner goes to the bank and then takes the money out of the account somehow without the check ever showing up anywhere.
	Yeah, this is not good.
	And then they give you back the check.
	I don't even get the check back, though.
	I know, you don't have to get the check back.
	It's probably too much work to do that, but it's like...
	Yeah.
	This is the future.
	This is all the same process of getting us off any ability to actually handle our own money.
	Exactly.
	No, the check was not void, Yellow.
	You have to send a valid check.
	Anyway, the president also used some interesting terminology.
	You know, he has these things that pop up over and over again, like everyone gets their fair shot, pay their fair share, play by the same rules.
	We got that one.
	We have the American dream of work hard, set a little aside for retirement, maybe send your kids to college and die with dignity.
	That is the American dream, according to our current president of the United States and the entire administration.
	Now he's got a new one, which is bothering me, and I think someone should call him on it, because it's bullcrap, and I'm calling him on it.
	Passing tax cuts for workers, to opening up new markets for American products, to reforming our patent system.
	But now we need to do more.
	That's why we made Congress a handy to-do list, just like the kind I get from Michelle.
	Now, I'm sorry.
	You're the President of the United States, and your wife's giving you a to-do list?
	Of what?
	What is on the to-do list?
	Walk the dog?
	What is it?
	I don't know.
	Walk the dog?
	Do the dishes?
	I don't think he does anything.
	This is bullcrap.
	He doesn't get a to-do list from Michelle unless it's go buy me something.
	Get the jet ready so I can fly to Spain.
	Not even that.
	He's got assistants for that.
	She has no to-do list for him.
	She has 20 assistants or something like that.
	She's really good.
	She has a $1 million budget for assistants.
	The only thing that can be on the to-do list is what he's about to say here.
	Because he says, just like the one I get from Michelle.
	So the true ruler of America is the First Lady.
	Here's her to-do list.
	Congress, a handy to-do list.
	Just like the kind I get from Michelle.
	It's short, but each of the ideas on this list will help create jobs and build a stronger economy right now.
	She is helping us build jobs.
	Yeah.
	It's annoying.
	And he's used this over and over again, everywhere.
	Just like the to-do list I get from Michelle.
	Do people fall for this?
	I don't know.
	I got him on...
	I got one of his things.
	He's got this new fired up and ready to go thing.
	Ready to go home?
	Well, when I first said it, I actually tweeted this.
	I said, now Obama once says ready to go.
	I thought he wanted to run for re-election.
	It's just kind of a joke.
	Because it sounds like he's ready to go.
	He's ready to leave.
	But play the...
	You're going to have to...
	Endure this, but this is worth listening to.
	The Obama fired up and ready to go thing.
	Yeah, the thing.
	Here we go.
	But here's the thing, Virginia.
	After a minute or so, I'm feeling kind of fired up.
	I'm feeling like I'm ready to go.
	Because I join in the chant.
	And it feels good.
	And for the rest of the day, even after we left Greenwood, I'd see my staff.
	I'd say, are you fired up?
	They'd say, we're fired up, boss.
	Are you ready to go?
	I'd say, I'm ready to go.
	Once you hear it, you will never forget it.
	So some people start putting fired up, ready to go on their shirts.
	Some people start putting fire it up ready to go on signs.
	Everybody's saying fire it up and ready to go.
	Fire it up!
	Fire it up!
	Ready to go!
	It shows you what one voice can do.
	One voice can change a room.
	And if a voice can change a room, it can change a city.
	And if it can change a city, it can change a state.
	And if it can change a state, it can change a nation.
	And if it can change a nation, it can change the world.
	Your voice can change the world.
	I just got one question for you.
	Are you fired up?
	Are you ready to go?
	Fired up!
	Ready to go!
	Fired up!
	Ready to go.
	Fire it up.
	Ready to go.
	Fire it up.
	Ready to go.
	Fire it up. Ready to go.
	Fire it up. Ready to go.
	Fire it up.
	Let's go change the world.
	Yeah, that's not mind control.
	Well, you know, it's also black preaching.
	So anyone who didn't think he went to the rights church and never listened, obviously that's not true.
	This is a classic style of preaching that white boys and white girls have never seen before, never heard of.
	They have no idea what he's doing.
	It's cool.
	But it is.
	It's very propagandistic and mind-controlled.
	Isn't this what Hitler did?
	Yeah.
	And people loved him, by the way.
	People loved Hitler.
	I know, we're always in denial about that.
	We were taught differently.
	We're taught incorrectly.
	The Germans loved Hitler.
	Yeah.
	Because he was fired up and ready to go.
	Hey, you're fired up and ready to go.
	Whoa.
	Okay, John, good one.
	Hey, I found an outfit that I'm looking into.
	This is...
	Actually, let me take you to a different place first.
	Let me take you to...
	Hmm, where is she now?
	Okay.
	Clippity-clop.
	I was wondering, you know, because, you know, Lucifer Hillary Clinton has this little thing where she has dignitaries visiting and she comes out, you know, the double doors open wide and she clippity-clops out with her hooves onto the rug with the dignitary and then she says, oh, it's so great for you to be here.
	So let me just play the most recent one.
	It took me a while to figure out what was going on.
	It's Clippity-clop.
	The message is clear.
	No!
	Clippity-clop.
	Good afternoon.
	I am delighted to welcome His Royal Highness.
	Hear those hooves, man?
	Clip-clop.
	Clip-clop.
	Here to the State Department.
	Bahrain is a valued ally of the United States.
	We partner on many important issues of mutual concern.
	Will you catch it?
	This is the Crown Prince of Bahrain.
	You with me?
	Yeah, he's our buddy.
	To each of our nations and to the regional and global concerns as well.
	I'm looking forward to a chance to talk over with His Royal Highness a number of the issues, both internally and externally, that Bahrain is dealing with and have some better understanding of the that Bahrain is dealing with and have some better understanding of the ongoing efforts that the government of Bahrain So, you know, and then he says, thank you.
	It's great.
	It's awesome to be here and whatever.
	Like, why, why, why, what is going on?
	What, what, what are these important issues that we're talking about?
	Can I just interrupt for a second?
	Sure.
	Do they have those cameras mic'd?
	Yeah, no, it's annoying.
	There's no reason to have that.
	You don't need...
	The microphone is aiming at her.
	It's a directional mic, I guarantee you.
	Yeah, but no, it's a directional mic from the back of the room so they can also do...
	If there's questions, they can focus it on the question asker.
	They can turn that mic down.
	Click, click, click, click, click, click, click.
	You're not supposed to be listening to this.
	This is the whole point.
	This is a photo op.
	It's a photo op.
	Alright, go on.
	So I'm like, what is going on?
	And I wait, and I search, and I wait, and the next day, oh, there it is.
	The U.S. State Department announced today that President Obama has signed off on a resumption of weapon sales to Bahrain.
	Haha.
	Wow, all these important things.
	You're full of crap, Lucifer.
	It's just to sign the $53 million initial deal where we're going to sell 44 Humvee armored vehicles, several hundred TOW missiles, along with associated equipment.
	And maintenance contractors.
	Yes, well, prime contractors are AM General and Raytheon, but they make a very important statement that nothing will be sold that can be used against protesters.
	Unlike the 44 armed Humvees and the Tau missiles, they're not selling tear gas.
	No tear gas will be sold in this deal.
	We're arming Bahrain!
	And that's...
	Oh, important issues.
	Yes, it's very good.
	Yes, very good.
	What, they do the deal at the Formula One race?
	Probably.
	These elitist pricks.
	Douchebags, that's for sure.
	Yeah, he's a photo op.
	And all the press is like, that's great.
	What do you have to say?
	Royal Crown Prince, Your Highness, let me kiss your ring.
	Well, this will bring me to kind of another off, just slightly off topic.
	Welcome to the show of off topics.
	But it brings us, since you brought up the Middle East, I might as well talk about the murder at the Kentucky Derby.
	Oh, yes.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	Play Kentucky Derby clip.
	Homicide occurred in the backside of the community where hundreds of stable hands live, and they've shut down.
	Yes.
	The police have no known leads.
	Where do you start this investigation?
	Well, I like that underbelly concept because I think the greater story here is the culture that exists in this, the backside.
	A thousand horses, 600 migrant workers, not so different than migrant farm workers, but they're horse caretakers.
	They feed, they clean the stalls.
	And a lot of them are undocumented citizens or undocumented people from Central America.
	You're going to have a very hard time with witnesses or anyone coming forward to talk because they're not going to want, A, the truth about the underside or the backside being known, and B, these people are afraid of being deported.
	So it could be a big story where maybe this man knew something about drugging horses or fixed races.
	Well, there were doping allegations not that long ago.
	Or it could be simply stable hands having a barroom fight.
	All right, John C. Dvorak, we're very interested in your dissection.
	Well, these races are rigged.
	And I stopped betting after the Barbaro incident.
	And I want to tell you, just relate this story.
	And nobody picked up on it.
	I mean, I read nothing after this happened.
	But the typical trick that they like to use, and I think this guy was killed for some reason because the horse that won was not the horse that was supposed to win.
	Right.
	The way this is supposed to go down, and it's done it almost every year, not quite every year, but it's obviously not going to happen this year.
	The idea is you have one outstanding horse win the first two races and be ready to win the Triple Crown.
	Everybody puts their money on that, then a ringer comes in and wins.
	That's the formula.
	That's the formula.
	And this happened over and over again.
	In the classic examples in 2006, the horse was Barbaro.
	Undefeated horse.
	The hands-down winner of every race that it ever raced.
	Goes to the Kentucky Derby.
	Wins with a near-record race time.
	About 20 lengths against the next horse.
	Goes to the Belmont Stakes.
	Wins no problem.
	Now, the next race is the Preakness.
	And the horse...
	It's at the length that the horse does best.
	Now this horse, again, now it's never lost, but won the two big ones.
	Everybody goes down and bets on this horse because it's going to, no matter who's racing against it, it's going to win.
	Now we need the ringer, so we bring in the ringer.
	They bring in a ringer, but they still have to deal with this horse being the fastest thing on the track.
	They shoot it, right?
	Well, you know, the funny thing is they ended up shooting it.
	Of course.
	Here's what happened.
	And I watched this race and I said, oh, that's it.
	I'm never going to even watch racing anymore after this scam.
	They put all the horses and if you read the accounts of this, the horse had a false start.
	How do you have a false start?
	They're in the gates.
	They're all closed up.
	He jumped out.
	And his gate opened.
	The other one stayed locked.
	His gate opens and the horse takes off like a rocket and breaks his leg.
	Oh, computer glitch.
	They never explained it.
	It was never discussed in any stories I ever read.
	Nobody bitched about this.
	I think he didn't break his leg quite then, but he was already spooked and weird.
	So they had to go put him back in.
	The race takes off.
	Then he breaks his leg because he's already ruined because of this false start.
	And the horse that wins, it was never in the Kentucky Derby.
	It was never in the Belmont.
	It was a horse...
	From Dubai, owned by the ruler, the king of Dubai, who's the vice president of the UAE. They brought him in as a ringer.
	He won easily after Barbaro came up lame with a broken leg.
	They had to shoot the horse, one of the greatest horses in the history of racing.
	This was rigged.
	And this whole thing is a ridiculous scam.
	I'm so upset by this scandal.
	Well, you think all sporting is rigged.
	Of course it is.
	All professional sports are rigged.
	Of course it is.
	But now, meanwhile, they had to shoot this Mexican because he was like, obviously he screwed up their scheme for this year.
	Perfect.
	Well, you know, don't mess around, you stupid Mexican.
	So anyway, that's my complaint about racing.
	So we have kind of a new quest, which I'm liking this.
	We find all these bullcrap non-profit organizations and how they operate.
	We could just do a show on that.
	Well, I like doing one or two in episode.
	So go to mobileactive.org.
	While you're looking for that site, I'll read you the subtext here.
	A global network of people using mobile technology for social impact.
	And this is basically, it's a job site.
	And they said, like, jobs!
	Check out current tech and mobile in social change positions.
	Who's this guy in the thing with this guy with the headgear on?
	He's the kind of guy they're looking for.
	So this is, you know, he's like Human Rights Watch is seeking a researcher on the Internet and human rights.
	So these are techno experts.
	This is where you get recruited.
	The cheapest institute of health is looking to fill some technical positions for the Mesoamerican Health Initiative project in Mexico.
	This is front for some spies.
	Okay, so if you find out who this organization is, they are a fully owned subsidiary of the Nonprofit Technology Network, the NTN, and the website for that is nten.org.
	Now here's where it gets interesting.
	So if you look at their about page, NTEN aspires to a world where all non-profit organizations use technology skillfully and confidently to meet community needs and fulfill their missions.
	And you look at this place, and this thing is...
	By the way, this website is designed by the same guy who did the other website.
	Yeah, duh.
	So, you know, you see their mission statement.
	You look at their board.
	Very interesting board members.
	Let's see.
	Who do we have here?
	Oh, here it is, board.
	Yeah.
	We've got...
	Why is this woman holding her chin with this weird photo of Amy Borgstrom?
	I know.
	She's great, isn't she?
	She's like a hooker.
	Talk about hookers.
	Katia Andreessen looks pretty hooker-ish.
	But on the board is Edward Granger Hopp.
	Global CIO, International Red Cross, and Red Crescent Societies.
	So, you know, this is obviously the techno-expert shillage.
	And now they're a 501...
	The Kresge Foundation.
	Yeah.
	The Ethereus Group.
	Yeah.
	Blackbaud.
	Common Ground, which is a, you know...
	They're a 501C... There's one.
	What are we going to call our organization?
	I don't know.
	We're going to try to do good work.
	Well, let's call it the Network for Good.
	Instead, you should call the Dvorak Consulting Group.
	We know how to do this for you.
	We'll come up with something better than that.
	Yeah, that's no good.
	So they're a 501c3 corporation, which means they're non-profit, but they don't have to report who gives their money.
	I think this has to stop.
	I think if you're a non-profit, we should know who's giving you money.
	This 501c3 is bullcrap.
	From their mission statement, to educate the public, members of the philanthropic community and other Section 501c3 organizations, i.e.
	other secret fronts on how technology can help to advance charitable missions to connect diverse constituents that share a common goal of helping nonprofits use technology more effectively like NGOs in other countries.
	Membership is made up of both individuals and organizations, including nonprofits, technology support organizations, consultants, and vendors who want to identify peers, connect with clients, develop professional support networks, and share information and resources.
	So the thing that was interesting is they Their revenue numbers.
	2006, they did $244,000.
	2007, $211,000.
	2008, $424,000.
	So now they've doubled.
	Then 2009, $463,000.
	So pretty much flat.
	Then 2010, uh-oh, $2 million.
	Oh, somebody, Soros came along.
	Or the State Department or somebody.
	And we can't find out.
	But if you look at this website, these are where the techno experts are hired.
	Well, if you go to the address, which I like to do, you know, 1020 Southwest Taylor, number 800 in Portland, there's a whole bunch of...
	This is not a mail drop, because this is obviously one place that these different companies are coming out of it.
	Idealist.org is at that address.
	And if you look at their website, to take you down the same road, same designer, And they do the personal democracy forum.
	And they have this thing with the internet's new political power.
	This is interesting.
	You've stumbled onto something here.
	Yeah, that's why I bring it up.
	Look at all these people.
	Who's on our team here at idealist.org?
	Who's on the team?
	That's a good question.
	People.
	It just says a number of jobs, organizations, volunteer opportunities, internships.
	It doesn't say.
	What?
	There's 421,000 people networked on this idealist.org.
	What you need to do, because all these sites, they always mess it up.
	They never have an about tab, but if you go to the bottom of the page, that's kind of like an old throwback to making...
	Very old-fashioned.
	Yeah, there's always an about us.
	Our team.
	Let's see.
	Put Barber.
	Who's that guy?
	Put?
	The guy's name's Put?
	How'd he get a name?
	We're going to name our kid.
	Well, we made all our money in the stock market selling puts.
	Let's call him Call.
	No, we can't.
	We'll have to call Put.
	That's funny.
	Put, Put, Put Barber.
	Hey, call Put.
	He's a senior advisor.
	We need the board of directors.
	They don't have a board.
	Yeah, it's just up above.
	Oh, board of directors.
	There you go.
	An educator's explored public engagement.
	She's at the learning community.
	Another one.
	The learning community.
	I mean, this is employing people, man.
	And here we are, we're like two schmucks watching C-SPAN all day.
	Why do we even bother?
	We should do one of these things.
	Yes, of course we should.
	We can go suck some schlong in D.C. and we'll get some money.
	No doubt about it.
	Michael D. Smith of the Case Foundation.
	Is that Steve Case's Case Foundation?
	Could be.
	Could be.
	Anyway, it's a rabbit hole, obviously.
	Oh yeah, I'm sure we could spend hours going from one site to another.
	Sandy...
	I've heard of this person.
	At the bottom, Sandy Stonesniffer.
	The special assistant to the president of the One Campaign.
	Global advocacy organization based in Washington.
	The One Campaign.
	There you go.
	We know if Bono's involved, it's not good.
	That's Bono's outfit.
	Yeah.
	All right.
	You got to click on that.
	You got to go back.
	You got to click on that link where it says the one campaign and look at this.
	What comes up?
	What page is this?
	It was the one with the stone safer at the bottom.
	I got it.
	What comes up?
	Thrive.
	Oh, that's Thrive.
	And look who's got all these pictures.
	They got Merkel and Obama and what's Harper.
	Plant the seed of change.
	It's time to break the vicious cycle of hunger and poverty.
	Please urgently agree to and implement a bold global plan to ensure 50 million people escape poverty through agriculture and 15 million children no longer endure chronic malnutrition.
	Now, what kind of bold plan is that?
	And by the way, who's this guy?
	Is that the new guy from France that's over second to the left?
	He's already on, yeah.
	That looks like him.
	Hollanda.
	Yeah, he's already in.
	Wow, these guys keep up.
	Well, they're making all this free money.
	All they've got to do is build a website and host a drink once in a while and collect the checks.
	Very good.
	Very good.
	I kind of love the little dancing beans over their heads.
	That should be a game.
	You should be able to click on Obama's head and it would bop up and eat the bean.
	Bloop, bloop, bloop.
	Bloop, bloop, bloop.
	Sign petition.
	Wait a minute.
	Let's just see what it is.
	At least check.
	Oh, you have to fill out.
	Screw that.
	I'm clicking on no thanks.
	Take me to one dot org.
	Yeah, I clicked on that.
	All right.
	Okay.
	So anyway, can I move off of this?
	I just wanted to mess with you.
	You brought it up.
	I know.
	It's where techno experts go.
	It's just to show you that all this money is...
	And it all comes from the State Department, USAID, Human Rights Now, all this stuff.
	So last night, I was up quite late actually.
	I watched this documentary called Detocracy.
	As I said at the top of the show, it's a crowdfunded documentary about Greece.
	And actually the reason why I was interested in this is because you brought it up on the last show and you brought it up again on that Horowitz podcast you do about Greece now wanting to investigate The actual debts that they may or may not have to the bankers.
	You with me?
	Oh yeah.
	Are you still looking at One.org?
	Can I have your undivided...
	Can I have your undivided...
	Get out of the media center, John!
	I just...
	Okay.
	Bono's statement on the selection of Dr.
	Jim Yong Kim as the president of the World Bank.
	Get out of the media center!
	What does this have to do with anything?
	Get out of the media center.
	Okay, I'm closed.
	I'm closing the site.
	Closing.
	One, two, three.
	Gone.
	Okay.
	Now, do I have your attention?
	I can smell.
	I can smell.
	I can just see it.
	It's like, click, click, click.
	Wow.
	What is this bullcrap?
	Click, click, click.
	All right.
	So did you hear what I said about the documentary?
	Yeah, it makes me very suspicious of this so-called, all of a sudden, they join the EU. Next thing you know, they're broke.
	How does this work?
	So, this documentary, very well done.
	In fact, they raised so much money, they had money left over to promote the documentary.
	It's in Greek, and actually some of it's in French, and a little bit of it's in German.
	It has English subtitles, poorly done, I have to say, because I understand the German and French, I can get a little bit of the Greek, not really.
	So, subtitling, not so great.
	It's all Greek to me.
	Yeah.
	But it goes in...
	Essentially, it makes a comparison between what's happening with Greece right now.
	And Greece has the Troika.
	It has the EU, the IMF, and the European Central Bank, who are now trying to take money from the slaves and give it to the banks.
	They compare it to what happened with Argentina.
	And Argentina was essentially exactly the same where they had the IMF and actually Washington, We're saying, hey, slaves, we're taking your money and we're giving it to the banks.
	And Argentina didn't end so well.
	You know, there was huge riots and the country got screwed.
	Then they bring in the comparison with Ecuador.
	And Ecuador, they elected a guy named Carrera.
	And he said, screw it, this is odious debt.
	And like, whoa, there's a new term.
	Are you familiar with odious debt?
	No, I'm not, but I am familiar with the fact that Ecuador is the country that was cited the most as the target of the economic hitman by Perkins in his first book.
	He's actually in this about Ecuador because they were given loans that they could never pay back, ever, even when they signed the deal.
	And so Ecuador got out of it by saying, hold on, this is international law.
	This was odious debt from the Book of Knowledge.
	In international law, odious debt is a legal theory that holds that the national debt incurred by a regime for purposes that do not serve the best interests of the nation should not be enforceable.
	Such debts are thus considered by this doctrine to be personal debts of the regime that incurred them and not the debts of the state.
	In some respects, the concept is analogous to the invalidity of contracts signed under coercion.
	And this was started by a guy named Alexander Sack.
	A Russian theorist who used this on the United States when we acquired Cuba, essentially.
	Along with Cuba came 400 years of debts to the Spanish colonial regime.
	And Alexander Sack then argued successfully...
	By the way, we're the ones who repudiated the debt...
	Yeah, correct.
	The way I read it.
	Mexico, it was during Maximilian when he came down here.
	And this was during the Civil War era when Maximilian was dropped in.
	Just a little background.
	Maximilian was dropped into Mexico by the French as the British had the northern, they had Canada.
	And it was implied that the United States would, the Civil War would bust the company in half.
	Then the French would move in from the south and the British would move in from the north and take over the country so they could get a hold of the gold that we had on the west coast.
	And so the whole thing was a giant scheme to bust us up.
	And so the French, during the Napoleon III era, and the British were not our friends.
	Right.
	All right.
	But now let me get back to the point I'm making.
	Thanks for that interlude.
	So the last time Odi's debt was used...
	Do you know when it was...
	It's not in the Wikipedia.
	It's in the documentary, and I like it very much.
	The last time this was used was Iraq.
	In 2002, before we went into Iraq...
	The Bush administration went to the IMF and the Paris Club and said, look, Saddam, he's got huge palaces, he spent all this money on weaponry, we're going to go in there, and of course we're basically going to conquer it, but you have to agree that these are odious debts, and the people of Iraq will not have to pay this back.
	Because otherwise, you know, it's screwed.
	We're going to spend all this money going there.
	We don't want you taking the oil.
	It's our oil because we're conquering this.
	So you have to say, under odious debts, they don't have to pay it back.
	And they made a deal.
	The deal was, okay, we'll give you a 40% cut on the debt, but you cannot go public and call it odious debt because we don't want that shitstorm.
	We can't have this concept being too well known.
	Oh, so they did a deal rather than do the statement of odious debt.
	Exactly.
	So if you look at Greece, in particular the Siemens scandal, and we've discussed it once or twice maybe because we really didn't look too deeply into it, but Siemens really, really, they bribed all kinds of government officials, they bought everybody off, and a lot of these debts were incurred through the corrupt Siemens deal.
	So what they're now trying to do, and of course it's not easy to get a hold of the documents, but they now do have a team.
	And this is not a team of, you know, you can't have, you know, government legislators.
	You need people like John C. Devorak and Adam Curry who, you know, can just go in and read a contract and say, oh, this is bullcrap.
	And this is, you know, clearly these guys are corrupt, and therefore it's an odious debt.
	And that's what the fight is about right now, is the Greeks are now saying, hold on, odious debt, this is debts that were made under corruption, coercion, we had nothing to do with it, you cannot put this on the people, we're not going to pay.
	And that's what's going on right now.
	And I thought it was fascinating.
	It's only an hour and 15 minutes, this documentary, but well worth...
	Is it online?
	Yes.
	No, it's online.
	It's freely available online.
	Link in the show notes at 408.nashownotes.com under Euroland.
	And it's called Debtocracy?
	Debtocracy, yep.
	Fascinating stuff.
	And of course...
	No, this is probably the same thing going on in Spain.
	Oh, it's exactly the same thing going on in Spain.
	Exactly the same.
	What I find interesting is that this thing about Iraq...
	Ear rock.
	Ear rock, yes.
	Correct.
	Let's say it correctly.
	Ear rock.
	The ear rock situation is that they wanted to keep this term from getting too much into the public domain.
	Correct.
	Because it has a...
	I'm looking over the same wiki page.
	It is very powerful if you can make this kind of thing stick.
	Mm-hmm.
	And that's international law.
	It would get Spain off the hook.
	It would get everybody that's been screwed over by the Germans, essentially, the EU, by creating these odious debt situations.
	We're walking from this odious debt.
	You need a really courageous bunch of people to do this.
	But I'll tell you, when it comes time for America, I'm there.
	I'm a government legislation analyst.
	Here are my credentials.
	This is my partner, John C. Dvorak.
	He assists me on slide whistle.
	We're here to look at the papers.
	We'll be there.
	Your papers, please.
	We'll be there.
	We'll be up front.
	Meanwhile, here's what you did not see in America on television.
	How Spain is doing.
	In Madrid, thousands took to the streets.
	They call themselves the Indignados.
	A youth-led movement that first protested last year against economic hardship and political corruption.
	A year on, they say, little has changed.
	A year has gone by and nothing has happened.
	Things haven't improved at all.
	In fact, they've got worse.
	The government hasn't sorted anything out.
	Everything is worse.
	Budget cuts are ongoing in healthcare and education.
	This is what we're demonstrating about.
	And there was real anger directed at the banks.
	We are ignored by the banks now that they have injected millions into them.
	That was exactly what they have taken from education.
	We are a bit tired because they are always the same ones who take the money.
	They talk about the crisis and there is no crisis.
	They have turned private debt into public debt.
	Oh!
	Unemployment in Spain is nearly 25%, the highest in the Eurozone.
	Here, it's the young who are worst hit.
	Half of all Spaniards under 25 are out of work.
	Tonight, 100,000 people gathered in the main square of Madrid as Spain joins the widening protests across Europe against austerity.
	100,000 people, John.
	Where's Anderson Pooper?
	A hundred thousand people.
	This is Tahrir Square times four.
	A hundred thousand people.
	Pooper, get on the scene.
	No, you can't because you're a slut.
	It's not in the script.
	You're a slut of the banking uberlords.
	I'm telling you, odious debt, it's a great term.
	It's a great concept.
	It's a legal concept.
	It's been used over and over.
	The United States used it on Iraq.
	Iraq.
	Iraq.
	This is very important stuff.
	Very, very important stuff.
	That's a good find.
	Ha ha ha ha ha!
	Is that how you compliment me, daddy-o?
	Yeah, it's fine.
	Well, you know, it's okay.
	It's all right.
	All right, then.
	Let me just play this, you know, because we're about to ask people to support our cause.
	We could also do it this way.
	September 11th, 2001.
	The terrible events of that day will live in infamy, but the United States would ensure that those responsible would pay the ultimate price.
	Justice will be done.
	On May 1st, 2011, elite members of SEAL Team 6 carried out a daring operation with extraordinary bravery and precision.
	Tonight, I can report to the American people and to the world.
	Justice has been done.
	And now, the historic coin mint is making available this rare commemorative claim, paying tribute to the team who carried out Operation Geronimo.
	Have you seen this commercial?
	Yeah, no, but it makes me cringe.
	They're already stealing the day it lives in infamy from, you know, Roosevelt in World War with an attack on Pearl Harbor.
	It's fine to be offensive.
	But this is a great deal, John.
	No, you get a coin.
	Has it got the head of Bin Laden?
	No, listen to what it has.
	Featuring the courageous SEAL team and their secret stealth helicopter.
	It features their secret stealth helicopter.
	The helicopter that we've finally determined doesn't exist?
	On the other side, the tragic reminders.
	The World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and Flight 93.
	Oh, God.
	This beautiful, limited-edition Sovereign is layered in magic.
	It's a limited-edition Sovereign made out of brass.
	A collector's item.
	It's valued at $100, but is now available for just $49.95.
	But call in the next 10 minutes, and you can own this valuable heirloom for just $19.95.
	Yep, I knew it.
	Everything is $19.95.
	That's the sweet spot on all TV sales.
	But wait, you get a lot more.
	Oh yeah, but wait.
	But wait.
	A protective case to preserve it.
	A protective case to preserve it?
	This individually numbered certificate of authenticity.
	But there's more.
	We'll also send you this silver edition coin as our free gift to you.
	Plus, be one of the first 500 callers, and we'll also include the Operation Geronimo military briefing packet.
	With...
	The Operation Geronimo military briefing packet, which includes maps.
	Photographs, maps, and operational details, it's a $79 value.
	Today, it's also free.
	Just pay shipping and processing.
	Altogether, that's now a $260 value, still for only $19.95.
	Wow.
	You'll even have a 30-day inspection period to get a full refund of your purchase price, guaranteed.
	This offer won't last long, so order right now.
	That's right.
	Order right now.
	John, we should just do that.
	We could do so much better.
	We just hawk dead people.
	What do you think?
	Yeah, I think it should have the head of Bin Laden and on the other side should be his butt.
	I'm going to show myself by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
	Show me Bin Laden's butt!
	And here we go.
	We do have some supporters.
	Although there's a helicopter flying over at the moment.
	Is it the secret stealth helicopter?
	We have a little event happening in a park here.
	There's a park owned by the University of California.
	Maybe it's the FBI guy.
	No, they decided that they want to put a Whole Foods instead of a, it used to be a community farm.
	Oh.
	Anyway.
	Read on show, it says.
	Sean Palladino in Cinnamonson, New Jersey, 9310.
	These are the Taco Bell Slay with another report that getting laid makes you fall behind on the show.
	My girlfriend and I have been having some fun every day in the past few weeks, and I've been falling behind in my no-agenda listening habits.
	Jeez, how much fun are you having?
	Just in time for my one-year anniversary of listening to you guys, so I'm giving you $52 for a half a dollar an episode for the past year, $33.33 for a podcast license, and $7.77 for good measure.
	It's not much, but I do appreciate what you guys do.
	Also, I could get a Hey Citizen, the science is indeed douching karma.
	You need that now?
	Should I do that?
	Let me see.
	He said, with this donation anyways, pretty much, he just wants his real name in the...
	So, hey, citizen, science is in dedouching karma.
	Okay.
	Hey, citizen.
	The science is in!
	You've been dedouched.
	You've got karma.
	I think it worked just up the Hey Citizen part.
	I don't think that worked with it.
	But I like the sciences in de-douching combo.
	Yeah, that flows really nicely, doesn't it?
	Yeah.
	Wayne Larkham in Sunnybank Hills, Queensland, which is, I guess, nice.
	He's actually in Brisbane.
	First of all, keep the slide whistle, please.
	Thanks for the hours of entertainment and education each week.
	These are so many classic clips, but you can play...
	There are so many classic clips.
	Can you play Whoop-Em-Ron by Reverend Manning?
	Well, yes, we can accompany it with a slide whistle duet, I think.
	Now, get out there and whoop Obama!
	Whoop-Em-Ron!
	Quite awesome.
	We actually don't play that enough, that clip.
	Were you slide whistling?
	I couldn't hear.
	I was looking up our next...
	You were looking at Bono again?
	Yeah, Bono.
	Get out of the media center!
	So, uh...
	Okay, let's see what we got here.
	We don't have a note.
	I have an old note from Richard Leiter.
	That's what I was looking up.
	But I don't have a new one for his 7777.
	He's in Lincoln, Nebraska.
	So I'm sorry if you had something to say.
	Let me see.
	The last time he wrote in was a karma for his wife.
	So let's...
	This must be it.
	He wants karma for his wife and a...
	And for John Slide Whistle Coach, he's an extra 50 bucks, blah, blah, blah.
	25 to his wife, mother for three incredible daughters, Maddie, Annie, and Becky.
	You're a great mom to them all.
	Karma and best wishes to both with lots of love from Richard Leiter.
	7777.
	You've got karma.
	The funny thing is that showed up on the...
	On the PayPal confirmation note, it wasn't like a private letter he sent, but it didn't show up on the spreadsheet for some odd, crazy reason.
	Go wake JC up out of bed.
	Ask him why.
	Just the way it comes out.
	Here's another one, the same thing.
	This is from Brian Watson, 6969, which keeps the thing alive.
	Keep up the SISPA, Kappa, DMCA, PIPA, SIPA, SOPA, SAPA, PIPA-ass coverage.
	Sir Brian, to you.
	Arian Martin de Jongste.
	Arian Martin de Jongste.
	6969, no comment.
	Jesse Cruz, Highland Park, Illinois, 6969, is trying to keep the streak alive.
	Please call out myself, Facebook status liking friend, Mark Muzikova as a douchebag.
	Patrick Muzikova, sorry.
	Also, I was wondering if John can explain a little bit more about how the far right stems from the far left.
	I've tried to search for it, but there's a bunch of stuff that's available.
	In fact, I have a clip.
	We can play it now.
	It's the Rupert Murdoch clip.
	Just an idea.
	This is one of many pieces of evidence.
	Rupert was definitely from a privileged background, but his father didn't own the business that he worked in.
	He managed it.
	Rupert always saw himself as an outsider.
	He thrived on that, but gave him a competitive edge.
	He would set himself apart further when he went on to Oxford, where his attraction to communist philosophy earned him a nickname, Red Rupert.
	I didn't know that.
	That's a piece of information you only get on the No Agenda show.
	Damn commie.
	Red Rupert.
	Frank Kruger in Seattle, Washington, 6969.
	When you read this, I'll be hungover in Vegas and in need of some sobering up karma.
	Send it if you can.
	All right, give me karma.
	You've got karma.
	Good job.
	I hope you double down so you can send us some more.
	Yeah, Patrick, yeah.
	Patrick Deary, double nickels on the dime.
	John Bolin, and Patrick's in Ontario.
	John Bolin in Byron, New York, $55.
	Drunk donation, an apology to Adam.
	Come on, do it in the drunk voice.
	Okay.
	Drunk donation, an apology to Adam.
	I told him I would donate after listening to his last DSC. I got slammed and forgot.
	I need some super fertility karma for wife Polly.
	She wants a baby for some reason.
	Thank God she doesn't listen.
	John, Windows phone is cool if you use SkyDrive.
	You can skip the Zune software.
	See, this is real strunk donating as I ramble more than those guys who sung that song Ramblin' Man.
	Peace.
	You've got karma.
	Steven Shirk, Minasha, Wisconsin, $5,497.
	Jeremy Slate, Hamburg, New Jersey, $5,207.
	Donation, $0.52 for the age.
	I'll be backwards, $0.25 on May 15th.
	We got him on the list.
	Seven cents because I love the slide whistle.
	My mother had a bad bleeding stroke several months ago and is having tough recovery, but luckily she survived it.
	She saw her full-time job as propagating the formula while she worked as a hairdresser.
	It's perfect.
	Yeah, good place.
	That's our audience.
	Yeah, it is.
	She always told people about the guy with the big hair that used to work on MTV. Who's that?
	Who's that guy?
	I don't know.
	Let me just say something.
	So, Carson Daly, they're promoing him.
	He's on the Pierce Moron show.
	Yeah.
	And it's like, MTV legend, Carson Daly.
	No, no, no.
	I'm an MTV legend, okay?
	You can't be...
	Carson Daly's too young to be an MTV legend.
	Martha Quinn is an MTV legend.
	You know, not Carson Daly.
	It's a little pet peeve.
	I'm on your side on this.
	Yeah, it's bullcrap.
	I'm a legend.
	Yeah, well, you've been written out of the history.
	Yes, I have.
	Because you had the gall to sue them over something.
	No, no, they sued me, I countersued, and then they had to settle with me, but the gall is that I left them and said, screw it, the internet is smarter, it's better, and you guys are lame, and I didn't like that.
	Well, that's how it works in corporate America.
	Anyway, here's this car now.
	You've got karma.
	That's the only thing that hurts a little bit.
	It hurts a little bit.
	It bothers you.
	When they do the big reunion shows, you never invite me.
	Think in terms of MTV as you throw out a couple of douchebags.
	One to Vince Fiortino.
	Douchebags.
	Listen and hasn't donated.
	And Sean Lake.
	Douchebags.
	Hasn't donated for a while.
	Mike Westerfield.
	Sir Mike Westerfield, $50.
	Richard Leiter, Lincoln, Nebraska, $50.
	There he is.
	There's Richard's email.
	Yeah.
	The one you just read.
	I did?
	That's weird.
	Yeah.
	Oh.
	Another $50 from Richard.
	George Scanlon in Carpentersville, Illinois, $50.
	Armin Breuer, Sir Armin, to you in Vienna, $50.
	Since last night's show was great, and since I'm also in need of some relationship karma yet again, here's some value for value.
	You've got karma.
	And finally, Tristan Wilson-Kerrigan from Paddybury, which I believe is somewhere near Wagga Wagga.
	$50.
	And finally, we don't have any more.
	We do have a couple of minor notes, people thanking us for this show and claiming never to be boners, etc.
	But we always have to worry about the under $50 wanting to be anonymous.
	So that's our donors for this.
	Light.
	Supporters.
	Very light.
	We didn't do very well on this Sunday show.
	And hopefully people will say, well, you know, this show was pretty interesting, especially the part about the odious debt.
	Apparently, this is interesting.
	The slide whistle, whoop-um-whoop-um-whoop-um, Ron, is now an instant internet viral sensation.
	It has been clipped and is already going around the interwebs.
	I'll have to play that as end of show after your end of show.
	It's the end of end of show.
	It's the end of end of show.
	Yes, well, it is value for value.
	Stay tuned for the book.
	Come on, John.
	We can do this.
	Yeah, okay.
	Well, let's crank it out.
	We have enough material just from these shows.
	You know what's so good about it is...
	There's about three things in every show that could go into a book.
	What, with value for value?
	I mean, that's all that it is.
	I mean, we're about value for value, not about the show.
	I don't understand what you're doing.
	I don't understand what you're talking about.
	Well, we do the book about...
	The book is called Value for Value.
	I think we should do a no-agenda primer.
	As a book?
	Yeah.
	We do at least three things per show that would go into a book and be very readable and interesting.
	I mean, the odious debt thing alone is worth the price of the book.
	So what is the Confessions of Media Assassins?
	Is that our book?
	That would just start.
	Yeah?
	Well, let's think of a title.
	Alright, we'll work on it later.
	We'll work on that.
	Anyway, the only way that we can continue to do this is through your generous support through...
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	There's also the main coin, which is probably better than that one they were selling with Ben Lott.
	With the secret stealth helicopter.
	We'll be less bogative.
	Yeah, indeed.
	It's your birthday, birthday!
	I'm No Agenda!
	Two quick ones today.
	Jeremy Slate congratulates himself.
	He turns 25 on Tuesday.
	And Aaron Yoho congratulates his son Damien turning three on Wednesday.
	Happy birthday from all of your buddies here at the No Agenda Show.
	It's your birthday.
	And a quick tally, slide whistle votes.
	As you know, in your donation amount, if you want the slide whistle to continue, then add a seven cents, a seven to your donation.
	If you're against, add a nine.
	Total votes, 42, or four, 13 coming in today.
	Against, total, 14.
	And only four against votes.
	Of course, we had a low day, so there you have it.
	So far, so good.
	Could you whip out your thing there?
	Yep, very good.
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	Hey!
	Wow!
	Haiti is back in the news.
	And there's a reason for it.
	Yeah, I saw this.
	It's funny.
	The reason they're in the news is because the United Nations in Haiti 2011 report has come out.
	I've read this for you.
	I'm not going to dissect it.
	You can take a look at it for yourself.
	But it's kind of funny.
	Right there in Chapter 2.
	Can any good news come out of Haiti?
	Not if one listens to the eminent person who travels from the airport to the hotel and promptly pronounces that no progress has been achieved.
	Or if you believe the TV correspondent who stands in front of a collapsed house and states that almost no rubble has been removed since the earthquake...
	But this narrative of failure goes too far.
	Of course, in the aftermath of a major earthquake, which just a few seconds caused damages estimated at $7 billion, equivalent to slightly more than the country's gross domestic product in 2009, an extent of continuing cholera epidemic, Haitians faced enormous obstacles of recovery.
	Of course, the impact of these twin catastrophes, oh now it's twin catastrophes, has been compounded by the reality that Haiti faced daunting and well-known structural problems even before these events struck.
	So shut up!
	So this whole report is like a big excuse.
	Shut up.
	Really.
	So, of course, the fun news is that the International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies is going to take $10.5 million of the money that was raised.
	You remember when Bono and Bon Jovi and all the Hollywood guys and George Clooney and they all got together?
	It was on the television.
	It was all the networks that were running this thing.
	It was to collect the money for the poor Haitians.
	I remember watching it.
	Yeah, you know what they're going to do with $10.5 million of that?
	Well, hold on a second.
	Are you telling me that this money hasn't already been spent on the Haitians?
	Oh, no.
	In fact, if you look at the annual, the 2011 report, they haven't even spent 25%.
	But the Red Cross, who, you know, you don't like give your money to the Red Cross and they go in and they help people.
	No, they're going to build a hotel and conference center.
	The hope is profits could sustain the work of Haiti's local Red Cross in the coming years, so they're giving it to themselves in the form of a hotel and conference center.
	The 10-acre compound known as the Hilton property was purchased from Haiti's local cigarette company in the months after the quake.
	The charity paid in a single payment.
	Yeah, they got cash.
	Hey, we got cash.
	Hey, we don't need a mortgage, man.
	We're cash buyers here.
	Using funds donated by National Red Cross agencies.
	This is an outrage.
	So this is the people that phoned in, they punched up a number on their cell phone to get billed by the phone company and this is where it went?
	Yep, to a hotel.
	Do they get a discount at the hotel at least?
	Oh, you might get a Hilton's reward card.
	That's possible.
	But the real news came out yesterday.
	Um...
	They found gold.
	Yeah.
	They expect $20 billion worth of gold is in the ridges of the country's northeastern mountains.
	Yeah, yeah, great.
	The public of Haiti will get not a nickel of it.
	But when you read into this, it turns out that mining can't...
	See, it turns out.
	There you go.
	You said it.
	Yeah, I don't know.
	Well, at least you're catching yourself, because I can't...
	No, it's annoying.
	Don't say that, Curry.
	So here's what is being told.
	It doesn't work.
	I can't do it.
	I can't do it.
	Mining camps have been going on for years.
	And U.S. and Canadian investors, the one who caused the earthquake, has spent more than $30 million in recent years in everything from exploratory drilling to camps for workers, new roads, offices and laboratories, studies of samples.
	Actual mining has been underway for five years.
	So think about this for your earthquake machine.
	Because, of course, they hadn't had an earthquake in 90 years.
	This was not a known fault.
	Maybe they harped this thing, triggered it, not only to grab control of the country, but to shake up the earth so they could get to the gold.
	Well, is it possible?
	Because we know that this can be done.
	It happened in California when they were trying to lubricate the fault some decades ago.
	Lubricate the fault.
	I like that.
	That's a good show title.
	Hey, baby.
	Let me lubricate the fault.
	They were screwing around because this doesn't sound like a gold mine in the classic sense where you go in there with a pick.
	With a mule in a bucket.
	It doesn't sound like that.
	It sounds more like it has to be torn.
	It literally has to be ground up.
	And so you want to crack it.
	Yeah, you want to crunch it, yeah.
	So you pound it with all kinds of heavy explosives, and then they triggered an earthquake by accident.
	What better way?
	Because I'm sure they'd rather just do this silently.
	Well, yeah, but it's very silent because no one knows about this.
	$20 billion, that's five years' worth of their GDP. Yeah.
	I think they were hoping they could mine this and ship it out of the country before anyone got wind of it.
	Mm-hmm.
	Well, MSNBC reported this, which I thought was interesting.
	Well, they got wind of it.
	I'm sure there's other kinds of crazy things that are going on like that all over the place.
	Sure.
	The media doesn't.
	But $20 billion.
	I'm more concerned about, you know, Romney shaving some kid's head.
	Oh, boy.
	Meanwhile, the true presidential candidate, Ron Paul, had breakfast with Ben Bernanke.
	Ooh, that must have been...
	That would be great to be at that breakfast.
	Yeah, it was just him and Ben.
	And from the article, he's from Wall Street Journal, the Fed chief and lawmaker had sort of an open discussion, Mr.
	Paul said, while declining to provide any details of the conversation.
	It was off the record.
	What do you think happened?
	I think this, if anything, this is the meeting where it's like, hey, hey, boy, you better stop this messing about now because, you know, you got your son there in the Senate.
	How about this?
	How about...
	Ron, you're okay?
	You're not carrying a wire or anything?
	Everything you say is true.
	I don't know what to do about it, Ron.
	I have no idea.
	It's not me that's controlling these things.
	I'm just told what to do, but I can't tell you who's telling me.
	Otherwise, I'll be dead tomorrow.
	Yeah, stop picking on me.
	Do you need any help to get that nomination?
	I wonder why no one's talking about this.
	What do you think that meeting is?
	I mean, that's a power breakfast right there.
	And he's always messing with Bernanke and these hearings.
	What could that have been?
	I hope he didn't have any oysters.
	That would be bad.
	I don't know.
	We'll find out in the weeks ahead.
	Well, we won't.
	Ron Paul, he's mum.
	He's mum about the whole thing.
	It's like, Ron, it is tungsten in Fort Knox.
	You've got to lay off.
	We've got nothing.
	The country is broke.
	We have nothing.
	If you audit the Fed, we're done.
	Let me show you this slide presentation.
	Let me show you this PowerPoint.
	You see all that big plume of smoke?
	That's America, Ron.
	Stop it now.
	Stop it.
	It's all bull crap.
	I wish he could do a Bernanke voice.
	I don't know that he has a voice.
	He does.
	He's an animatron.
	I can't even come close to catching it.
	I never do it.
	So the big news, of course, in finance, which I'd love to get your take on, was the morgue, as they call it, J.P. Morgan.
	All of a sudden, they had $20 billion worth of losses.
	I mean, $22 billion worth of losses with another billion coming.
	Yeah.
	But here's what I found rather interesting.
	He appeared on Meet the Press this morning, and here's the lead-in.
	I think people are going to be talking about it in the week ahead, and that is the coming clash between Washington and Wall Street.
	Why?
	Well, you've seen the headlines this week that came from JPMorgan Chase, the nation's biggest bank.
	It lost $2 billion in trading losses because of risky bets.
	The man at the very top, bank chairman and CEO Jamie Dimon, very powerful figure on Wall Street and beyond, often outspoken, no stranger to Washington.
	He made the announcement about that loss on Thursday afternoon, and after the markets closed on Friday, he sat down with me in New York.
	Here's what was interesting.
	He actually did the interview on Wednesday, and this was before the announcement On Thursday about the losses.
	So then he had to come back and do the interview again.
	Now this was not known, but it got out.
	And so later in the program, Chip Gregory, what's his name?
	Pete?
	Chip.
	Chip Gregory says, well, you know, we did an interview on Wednesday and then I had him come back.
	So if you're being interviewed by Meet the Press and it's Wednesday and you know this is coming, I've got to presume you know this is coming or that it could be covered up, but then Thursday you have to announce it.
	You're either A, not going to go on Meet the Press, or you're going to mention it, or something's got to happen.
	So is this telling me that Jamie Dimon did not know about this until the actual earnings call?
	It has to be.
	I mean, your analysis is absolutely correct.
	There's no way he would have done this.
	He would have put it off, rescheduled.
	There's a million ways of getting out of these things, especially if you're Jamie Diamond.
	What a name.
	So, yeah, he must have been completely caught off guard.
	And this is being touted as...
	And I'm sure he's chewing out the person that booked him on the show.
	Oh, yeah.
	Somebody must have known.
	Well, no, but even that person didn't know.
	They did not know.
	But for this thing to come at the very moment when they're talking about the Volcker rule, and this is obviously a derivatives deal that went bad.
	In your estimation, John C. Dvorak, a cyclist extraordinaire, do you think that the fractal is kicking in?
	Is it time now for the derivatives, which by some accounts is $600 to $700 trillion?
	The number is unbelievable.
	Is it starting to unwind?
	Is this where it happens?
	Is this how it goes?
	And then we can, of course, speculate if it's by design, but...
	What do you think?
	Well, no, I would always say it was a cycle.
	I will say this.
	I will say this.
	I opened up a bank account at Chase when we just moved here, and the only reason was Christina, my daughter, she opened a Chase account in Los Angeles against my better judgment and recommendation.
	And so when she comes up short, I've got to send her cash, and they do have a pretty simple system that you can do right through your phone.
	So, you know, I put some money in there.
	They're really nice people, I have to say.
	I mean, you can't go to the bank and just, you know, do a transaction.
	You've got to sit down, talk about, you know, the bank manager's kids, you know.
	And, of course, I'm going to scam them to get money to buy this land and to build Camp Mofo if we're lucky.
	He called me at least three times in the past two months to check in and see how everything was doing, which is a cash call, essentially.
	And I'm not putting money in there.
	I just have some that's just in there to send to Christina.
	So my thinking is that the word was already out that they needed to recapitalize and get money.
	Because that's how it works.
	The word goes out.
	Hey, we need more money.
	Go call everybody.
	Go call.
	Make your calls.
	So I think there's something bigger going on here.
	Wow.
	You might be onto something.
	And it could be structural and huge.
	Well, the cycle would have it that we would have an economic collapse.
	There's two things that can happen in this decade.
	Which is very reminiscent of the 1890 to the turn of the century.
	That's what I'm looking for, Dvorak.
	That's what I'm talking about.
	Which would be 2013, right after Obama's elected.
	It would be a collapse.
	Or Romney, either one.
	Romney can blame Obama if it happens, so he'd be in pretty good shape, but Obama's got nobody to blame but himself if it happens.
	And it should happen in 2013, unless, in other words, a major, major, major depression lasting probably a year to two, maybe, maybe longer.
	But it'd never really perk back up.
	It'd just be kind of flat.
	I mean, that's the cycle.
	That's what the cycle's got written all over it.
	That's what's supposed to happen.
	That's what normally does happen.
	It has been thwarted only a couple of times, and it could be thwarted by huge infusion of printed – crank the printing presses up like there's no tomorrow.
	Not – they're talking about, oh, it's a trillion.
	We're talking about $20 trillion needs to be pumped into the system.
	So I don't think they have the guts to do that.
	So that's not going to happen.
	No, we don't have it.
	If they did somehow crank things up so you could push off the depression of 2013 – It's still going to happen in 2017, no matter what you do.
	And if it happens in 2013, it's going to happen again in 2017 no matter what you do.
	But I think next year – and everyone's already getting prepared for this falling off the cliff and all the rest of this kind of discussion.
	I think it's being geared up.
	And by the way, our clip – after show clip of George Soros discussing economics and the new theories that are needed to explain what things are – how things are going, I think will adequately explain why we're going to have a crash in 2013.
	Oh, goody.
	And what can we do to prepare for said crash?
	Our economic professor, our professor in economics, John C. Borak.
	Well, every time it's different, so you never know.
	I mean, it's almost unpredictable.
	But one thing that Swedish people have discovered is that farmland is a really good place to put your money.
	So screw Krugman.
	Listen to Dvorak.
	Krugman doesn't know crap.
	Farmland.
	Well, good.
	I'll have some land I can farm on it.
	Yeah, just get more acres than you normally would.
	You can't afford it, man.
	I can get half an acre.
	If the economy collapses in 2013, farmland should collapse with it and then recover rather quickly.
	Oh yeah, and I'll be rolling in the dough.
	Donations don't go up.
	Meanwhile, over there on Gitmo Nation East, the slaves are being trained that the government takes care of you.
	Here's a commercial that is running on the BBC, which I found to be abhorrent.
	Politics.
	Doesn't really affect us, does it?
	Oh, apart from the cost of our heating.
	And the fat content of our food.
	How often our streets are cleaned.
	The start in life our children have.
	And whose hand they can have in marriage.
	The minimum wage.
	The maximum wage.
	We cycle, cycle lanes, care homes, first homes, Sherlock homes.
	Oh, and the air we breathe.
	Yeah, pop more than that.
	Government will take care of all of that.
	Wow.
	Bad content here.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	Justification for what you do or don't do, actually.
	Yeah, that's awesome.
	Bunch of commies over there, man.
	Well, on the topic of the Brits, I did catch some of the testimonies.
	They're continuing this testimony about the wiretapping or the phone tapping.
	Is it just me or does Rebecca Brooks, the former editor of News of the World, does she look like a skanky hoe or is it just me?
	Well, don't forget, she was like 30 or something when she got to her first editorship, and I think it was at The Sun.
	But she looks like, she does look like a, she looks like, yeah.
	She looks like the kind of, just to put it mildly, when you see her and you, she's very sharp, by the way, but when you see her and you see how fast she moves up the ladder, you have this, and even though this is a very sexist thing to say, and I want to apologize to our female dames, she looks like a blowjob artist.
	She looks like the kind of woman that should be wearing a poncho.
	Well, she does look like a hippie, too.
	Yeah.
	So, okay.
	Blowjob artist.
	Never have I ever looked at a woman and thought that.
	Only you, John.
	That took you a while.
	Yeah.
	I just realized what you said.
	I was too busy in the media center.
	All right.
	So, what do you got here?
	Rebecca Brooks.
	So she, I was actually surprised by what she said here, because I would have suspected that Rupert, Red Rupert, was more of the guy that really tries to commercialize things.
	But this was kind of an interesting thing.
	This is the first clip, just Rebecca Brooks.
	Yes, that's right.
	Views on Europe, presumably you are a, you are a skeptic, correct?
	Yes, I suppose so.
	And politically, you, your position is fairly similar to Mr.
	Murdoch's, is it?
	No.
	In some areas, yes.
	In which areas do they differ?
	Well, we disagreed about quite a few things.
	More in margins of it rather than the principles.
	So, I don't know, the environment, DNA database, immigration, top-up fees...
	The amount of celebrity in the paper versus serious issues, columnists, the design, the headline, size, the font size, the point.
	I mean, you know, we had a lot of disagreements.
	But in the main, on the big issues, we had similar views.
	Yes.
	And so on the issue amount of celebrity against serious issues, where did each of you stand on that?
	I like more celebrity and he wanted more serious issues.
	So that caught me off guard.
	You know, I'm going to be talking to Super Agent Keith when Mickey and I get married in Amsterdam in July.
	He's coming over from the UK. He knows all these people, inside and out.
	He would work with the money flow.
	He's known as the Bishop of Soho.
	He will give me some real insight into what happened.
	You watch.
	I'll have tons of stories.
	Oh yeah, you watch.
	So anyway, just as an aside, she also explains what she meant by liking more celebrity.
	I mean, this, by the way, she is a modern...
	I believe she's a modern editor.
	I think they all think this way at this point.
	They don't give a crap about educating the public in any way, shape, or form.
	And why did you want more celebrity?
	Well, I liked...
	I thought the readers were quite interested in...
	We only have to look at the viewing figures of...
	BBC or ITV to see that it's the celebrity programs, the reality programs that do so well.
	And I took from those figures that our readers were quite interested in that.
	He thought there was too much of it, although he liked X Factor.
	But she's absolutely right.
	Can you imagine us pitching this show to Red Rupert?
	Rupert, we've got a great idea.
	We're going to deliver real news, we're going to dissect all this bull crap, and we'll have no audience.
	Which is what we've got.
	And that's our model, Rupert.
	Don't you love it?
	You know, we can just see the guy going like, what?
	That's not going to happen.
	Not on my watch.
	Yeah, no, it's kind of pathetic.
	Good.
	So there was a Pentagon briefing.
	Actually, I think it was Department of Defense, although it was Panetta and Dempsey.
	Dempsey I kind of like because he shoots his mouth off.
	I like the guy on one hand because I think he's probably a good...
	On the other hand, he's a little egocentric.
	He feels like Panetta's getting too much press, and he'll be like, well, he asked me the question, too, so let me answer it my way.
	And he messes up when he does that.
	So this is regarding Yemen, first of all.
	He's a great guy to have a drink with.
	Oh, Dempsey, yeah.
	And in fact, Atomic Rod knows him and says that he is a good guy.
	Atomic Rod was on a nuclear sub for 30 years or whatever.
	So did you know that we have sent troops into Yemen?
	We have boots on the ground?
	Well, I mean, we've talked about the troops that were sent in over a year ago, but they're all stealth.
	No, we sent in new troops, but they're for a training mission.
	Oh, the famous training mission.
	A training mission.
	So the question comes in from...
	Good question, by the way.
	A nice dude who's an old gray idiot who's never going to get asked back again after this.
	Your announcement, the department's announcement the other day, that military trainers are being returned to Yemen.
	What is the prospect of even deeper U.S. military involvement in Yemen in coming months, whether it be air power or ground forces?
	With regards to the Yemen question, as I've said time and time again, that...
	Count the times he says Al-Qaeda and ring your bell.
	We will go after Al-Qaeda wherever they are and wherever they try to hide.
	And one of the places that they clearly are located is Yemen.
	We've obviously, the United States, both military and intelligence communities have gone after al-Qaeda and we continue to go after al-Qaeda.
	The recent threat that concerned all Americans about the possibility of another effort To take down an American airliner has come out of Yemen.
	And it's for that reason that we will continue to take all of the steps necessary to try to go after those who would threaten our country and threaten the safety of American people.
	We have operations there.
	The Yemenis have actually been very cooperative in the operations that we have conducted there, and we will continue to work with them to go after the enemies that threaten the United States.
	So, this actually didn't say it all that often.
	No, you didn't say it all.
	You'll hear Dempsey in a moment.
	So what I find interesting is that he brings up the, well, you know, we thwarted a jet bomb attack, which is bullcrap.
	It's just bullcrap.
	It's not true.
	We didn't thwart anything.
	And it was apparently the Brits are now taking responsibility.
	Hey, it was actually an MI6 guy who was working.
	Oh, really?
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	The Brits are saying it was an MI6 guy.
	So, you know, there's all kinds of credit that's not flowing properly, and everyone's all pissed off about it, and it wasn't supposed to come out like this, and yes, it was a bad leak.
	But then Dempsey, he says something pretty incredible, which is exactly the opposite of what is supposed to happen.
	Because, you know, what happens when there's all kinds of bullcrap in these countries?
	We have the responsibility to protect.
	We have an entire executive committee the president put together.
	When we have internal strife and evil dictators, and let's face it, Yemen has a dictatorial government, if you can even call it a government, then we go in when there's stuff going on, right?
	That's when we have the no-fly zone.
	We go in to protect the people, correct?
	Correct.
	Would you rule out using ground forces in Yemen at some point?
	Yeah, there's no consideration of that.
	Our operations now are directed with the Yemenis going after al-Qaeda.
	If I could contribute to that part of the question, or that question as well.
	You know, we've had a decades-long relationship, security cooperation relationship with Yemen.
	We suspended it during the period of their civil unrest.
	And as President Hadi began to restore constitutional order to the situation, we're reappearing in terms of our building partner capacity.
	That makes no sense!
	What makes no sense about it?
	When there was civil unrest, we left.
	Yeah, and then when things were calmed down again and it was constitutional, we came in.
	We came right back in.
	Yeah, it doesn't make sense if you think of it, yeah.
	And so then the question comes up about Syria.
	Hey, is there Al-Qaeda in Syria?
	I haven't seen any intel to suggest that AQ was responsible for those attacks.
	Although we do know that there have been extremist elements that are trying to make inroads in Syria.
	Oh, really?
	So there are extremists like Al-Qaeda.
	Of course.
	But let's disclaim this quickly.
	That is to be distinct from the opposition.
	I'm not tying those together, you know.
	Idiot.
	You can just see Panetta kicking him under the table.
	Oh, no, you dummy.
	Ixnay on the Al-Qaeda, idiot.
	Don't just say that.
	He did that in front of the boss.
	Yeah.
	Well.
	Okay.
	I've got the Sunday Times here.
	Oh.
	Do you need the jingle?
	Oh, yeah, why not?
	Okay.
	Just gonna harm the Sunday Times.
	Times is having problems.
	They're starting to lay people off.
	This may be the last, you know, last days.
	They need to go all value for value.
	It'll be great.
	The paper will be one page.
	Big front page story on the cost of education soaring.
	Young adults play a growing price in loans.
	We talk about that on our show.
	Of course, a generation hobbled by college debt.
	Huge, huge front top of the fold.
	Big picture of some girl.
	I don't know why she's doing this, but it looks like she's at a restaurant counting tips.
	She's got a bunch of money on the counter, and that's about it.
	So that's the big story, and they're going after that.
	Tea Party focus turns to Senate, and shakeup is on the left.
	Doesn't mean anything to me.
	U.S. made...
	This is kind of interesting, though.
	And this is the far right column, top.
	U.S. may jettison efforts to train Iraq police units.
	Key mission in disarray.
	Costly project falters as American influence shows a decline.
	In other words, the whole thing is done.
	Yeah.
	We suck.
	Below the fold, we got Echoing out of Texas, a story that caught my attention because you, of course, are in Texas.
	Echoing out of Texas, Chinese voice of dissent.
	Hmm.
	I don't know what quite that's about, but I guess somebody's in Texas complaining about the Chinese.
	What are they doing?
	In the e-book era, rule for writers is type faster.
	Yeah, more books, right?
	You've got to do one a year.
	Yeah, you've got to crank them out.
	Yeah, I saw that story.
	Then there's a picture of Romney speaking to these guys at Liberty College.
	A couple little minor, a little group of minor stories.
	Missile plans to worry Londoners about those missiles in the rooftops.
	Budget crisis in California.
	Just on the missiles in London, there's an awesome crackpot video.
	That you can find under out there in the show notes, 408.nashownotes.com.
	Title of the video, 100,000 to Die at the London Olympics.
	And they have all these media messages and coincidences.
	And then, of course, there's the Illuminati playing card deck.
	The assumption here, or the assertion, is that a dirty nuke will go off during the Olympic Games.
	It's a good crackpot video to watch if you're into that.
	It sounds like a winner.
	It is.
	I thoroughly enjoyed it.
	Please, have a look.
	And pretty much there's not much going on.
	Well, then we can close it out because I've got more to say.
	But I do have a little Olympic thing since you brought it up.
	There's a screwball sculpture they built at the Olympic Park.
	I have a clip describing it.
	And there's a question.
	This is kind of an Ask Adam because it has a question.
	You'll guess the question when you play the clip.
	I'm just looking for it.
	It's right at the bottom.
	WTF sculpture.
	Here we go.
	London's latest landmark.
	An awkward, odd-looking tangle of red steel.
	It looks like a helter-skelter.
	But it's actually a sculpture called The Orbit.
	Okay.
	Ask Adam.
	Ask Adam.
	What's the question?
	It looks like a helter-skelter.
	What does that mean?
	There was some reference to this.
	Hold on a second.
	I was reading a recent Helter Skelter reference, and not in reference to the song or to Manson or anything.
	What was that?
	There's something weird about it.
	That's a good question.
	Well, that whole thing is completely Illuminati-based.
	Hey, you've got the big pyramids.
	Did you see the Olympic flame got blown out?
	The high priestess?
	I love it when that happens.
	Oh, no!
	They had a ceremony, and actually, they called her the high priestess.
	Really?
	Yeah, oh, yeah.
	The BBC called it the high priestess.
	I had it on last week's show.
	I didn't play the clip.
	And yeah, the high priestess and then a big gust of wind comes and it blows out.
	And you see this girl like, what?
	What do I do now?
	And they lit it with a parabolic mirror.
	The whole thing is...
	Well, anyway, 100,000 to die.
	Get out of London is my advice.
	You never know.
	It can't hurt to get out.
	Does anything look like a helter-skelter?
	Here's a couple of little things in the book.
	The helter-skelter is a nickname for Bishop's Gate Tower, a skyscraper under construction in London.
	That's just the name of it.
	Let me do Helter Skelter lyrics.
	Is there a clue there, maybe?
	Bishop's Gate Tower is pretty.
	It's very pretty.
	Let's see the lyrics for Helter Skelter.
	Skyline's starting to look like Dallas.
	Not liking it.
	The lyrics.
	I'm coming down fast.
	When I get to the bottom, I go back to the top of the slide.
	When I stop or turn around, don't want me to love you.
	I'm coming down.
	No, I don't think there's...
	Nothing in the lyrics.
	So you say it looks like a Helter Skelter.
	Unless you're referring to this...
	I'm just searching, man.
	It's what I do.
	You're not going to find it.
	There's nothing.
	I don't know what the guy's talking about.
	Why the guy didn't call him on it.
	What are you talking about?
	Meanwhile, here's some great news.
	Researchers at the...
	Hold on a second.
	I hate to interrupt you, but you've got to look at this picture.
	Go to Helter Skelter and the Book of Knowledge.
	Mm-hmm.
	Just a word, Helter.
	There's a bunch of them, but the one is just Helter Skelter.
	Oh, wait, here it is.
	Bishop's Gate Tower is what you want.
	You've got to go to Bishop's Gate Tower.
	From the Book of Knowledge page?
	Yeah, the Book of Knowledge.
	It should say Bishop Gates Tower.
	It should just have a standalone entry.
	Hold on.
	It's got a picture of the tower.
	I'm looking for it.
	Bishop Gates Tower.
	Right.
	Okay.
	Hmm.
	It's referred to as the pinnacle.
	Do you see that?
	Mm-hmm.
	Okay, now click on the tower picture on the right.
	Okay.
	Which, that's not it.
	Hold on.
	Click on the other one where it says planning and design.
	The big disguise, the scene.
	Yeah, yeah.
	And you got the bullet.
	You got the tower.
	You mean the Gorkin.
	And then you have R2-D2 on the right.
	Yeah, you're right.
	What is this?
	It's R2-D2. Good catch!
	Yeah, something's up.
	R2-D2. You're absolutely right.
	I wonder what building that is.
	It's R2-D2. I have no idea.
	Alright.
	Researchers.
	You know, my head always goes, whoa!
	Researchers at the University of Michigan.
	They've done something outstanding, John.
	They have tweaked the Kinect sensor.
	You know, the Microsoft Kinect?
	Which is that three cameras thing?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	The thing with the eyeballs.
	And they have brought it into the classroom.
	The Kinex motion sensor can now be used to observe children and to pick up on whether they exhibit the symptoms of autism.
	You've developed a maniacal laugh, you know.
	How can you not?
	So put this in the red book.
	Your kid's going to be at home spinning, of course.
	Because, you know, that's what kids do.
	And I can just imagine the kid puts his head on the ground and spins around that.
	That's a good spin.
	Or maybe just with arms out, spinning around.
	Your connect is going to register that.
	And then you're going to get a knock at the door.
	And it's going to be, I'm sorry, you know, we obviously know that your kid has autism and we need to...
	We need to give them some shots.
	If you have a connect, get it out of your house.
	It's a very bad idea to have these things.
	And you can cross this one off from the Red Book.
	What's in the Red Book about tuberculosis?
	Oh, that's a long time ago.
	I'd have to be digging in the book for a while.
	World Health Organization.
	Extreme drug-resistant strains of tuberculosis has now been found in 70 countries.
	And it's the doctor's fault.
	What we are seeing worldwide is the emergence of strains of the bacillus causing tuberculosis that are resistant to most of the drugs we have available.
	Director of World Health Organization's Stop TB campaign is saying.
	Um...
	Here it is.
	In certain cases, public clinics run out of stock of the proper medicine, but increasingly, private sector practitioners are to be blamed.
	In India, which has the highest prevalence of TB in the world, 50-70% of patients refer to private doctors when they begin coughing.
	They don't want to queue in public clinics that are overwhelmed and congested.
	And instead of prescribing the four-drug six-month regime recommended by the World Health Organization, who I'm sure somehow are being paid, private clinics prescribe either too many drugs, which is a waste of money and increases toxicity, and also increases drug resistance.
	So you're taking the wrong meds, slave.
	You've got to take our meds, which are World Health Organization approved.
	I told you this was...
	There you go.
	You've got it.
	You've got it right there.
	In Gitmo Nation East, just staying on the medical front here, Big Pharma, prescriptions of Ritalin for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder have quadrupled in the last 10 years.
	That's a lot.
	Yes.
	I would say.
	All right.
	I'm done.
	You're done?
	Let me just check and see if I'm done.
	The HPV thing, I still want to get into that, but I need more time to formulate it.
	It's a crackpot thing if you just want to go out on a funny note.
	Just summarize.
	Yeah, it's a very quick summary.
	A crackpot note is that Mark Zuckerberg, that his real name is Jacob Greenberg.
	And there's mug shots of this Jacob Greenberg who was arrested several years ago for marijuana.
	And it is...
	Just hold it right there.
	I got a magazine with a picture of him on the cover.
	I'm looking at it and I'm saying this guy is smoking dope because he's got those red bloodshot eyes like they used to.
	You know what I'm talking about?
	Yeah, well he's MKUltra.
	It's very obvious that he's smoking dope based on his eyeballs.
	Well, that fits in with Jacob Greenberg, who was arrested.
	And if Mark Zuckerberg, which, by the way, is German for Sugar Mountain, which is kind of interesting, has a code name for Facebook.
	It's a honeypot, the Sugar Mountain.
	Remember, a $500 million investment from In-Q-Tel started that thing.
	Then his family members would be the Rockefellers.
	What?
	Yeah, the Greenbergs are related to the Rockefellers.
	And the Rockefellers, of course, own 8% of Facebook.
	Is that right?
	Mm-hmm.
	According to the perspectives.
	So keep your eye on Zuckerberg.
	This is a good one.
	Yeah.
	Okay, we'll follow this.
	Yeah, well...
	Why not?
	Nobody else is.
	No.
	That's going to be a dog of an IPO, though, I can tell you that.
	If they ever get out.
	Maybe that's why Jamie Dimon did all this now.
	So they don't have to take Facebook out.
	Well, it could be one of the things, because if you can kind of put the market in a stall, no one's going to bring out an IPO. Yeah.
	And they've been stalling it for a while now, it looks like.
	Hmm.
	We'll see.
	It's going to be next week.
	Well, maybe the $1 billion additional loss that's coming is from the Facebook IPO. Maybe that's what he's saying.
	Maybe it's all just code.
	It might be.
	Elaborate code, but...
	I would look for it in a crossword puzzle.
	All right, so Ms.
	Mickey and I are flying to L.A. this afternoon.
	I'm going to go visit my daughter.
	So I'll be submitting myself in the tunnel of humiliation to the TSA rapists.
	That should be fun.
	And we have an end of show clip coming up.
	George Soros on economics.
	Boring but fun to watch, John says.
	Fun to listen to.
	Happy Mother's Day, everybody.
	Coming to you from the capital of the drone star state here at Camp Mofo in Austin, Tejas.
	In the morning, my name's Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where I also say, Happy Mother's Day to all you mothers.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll be back again on Thursday, right here on No Agenda.
	Ever since the crash of 2008, there has been a widespread recognition, both among economists and the general public, that economic theory has failed.
	But there is no consensus on the extent of that failure, even among participants of this conference.
	As a sponsor of INET, I'm delighted because it shows that INET is open to a wide variety of new economic thinking.
	But I'm also a proponent of an alternative interpretation of financial markets and in that capacity I take a different position.
	I believe that the failure is more profound than generally recognized.
	It goes back to the very foundations of economic theory.
	Economics tried to imitate Newton's physics.
	It's thought to establish universally and timelessly valid laws governing reality.
	But economics is a social science and there is a fundamental difference between natural and social sciences.
	Social phenomena have thinking participants who base their decisions on imperfect knowledge.
	That is what economics has tried to ignore.
	Scientific methods needs an independent criterion by which the truth or validity of theories can be judged.
	Natural phenomena constitute such an independent criterion.
	Social phenomena don't.
	That's because natural phenomena consist of facts that occur independently of what anybody says.
	The facts then serve as an objective evidence by which the validity of scientific theories can be judged.
	That has enabled natural science to produce amazing results.
	Social sciences, by contrast, have thinking participants who have a will of their own.
	They are not detached observers, but engaged decision-makers whose decisions greatly influence the course of events.
	Therefore, the events don't constitute an independent criterion by which the participants can decide whether their views are correct.
	In the absence of an independent criterion, people have to base their decisions not on knowledge, but on an inherently biased and, to a greater or lesser extent, distorted interpretation of reality.
	Now get out there and whoop Obama's body!

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