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Maestro John C. Dvorak's slide whistle.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Sunday, April 1st, 2012.
Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 3, 9 or 6.
This is No Agenda.
Coming to you from Camp Mofo in the capital of the drone star state, Austin, Texas.
If he's the April, I'm the fool.
In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.
Nice try.
From northern Silicon Valley, we say, nice try.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning.
I was like, I'll do something good in a, April Fool's Day.
Yeah, happy April Fool's.
Whatever that means.
This is, by the way...
Bull crap.
You used to always do these great gags, but it's become so institutionalized now by the internet.
Yeah, yeah.
It's stupid.
Google did theirs, you know, Google did...
What did they do?
Something dumb.
They said that they sent out a press release in conjunction with NASCAR that their self-driving car will be entered in the next year's cup chase.
Do you know, we had a tradition, my grandfather, Eugene Curry, Renwick, I should say, Renwick Eugene Curry, on April Fool's, if we happened to be staying there, and I'm not sure where this came from, but everything would be upside down, and we'd have a big steak and mashed potatoes for breakfast, and then for dinner, we'd have what looked like fried eggs on toast with spinach.
But the fried eggs were actually like a cake with two pear halves.
So it looked like a yolk with whipped cream around it.
And then my grandfather would eat the spinach with a pair of pliers.
I know.
That's a good one.
And I never really understood.
Like a pair of pliers.
I think we should all eat it.
Pliers.
On April Fool's Day.
No, anyway, that should be standard operating procedure.
Standard.
Pliers in the dishwasher, they're nice and clean.
Standard operating procedure.
Yeah, and you have a steak, you hold it with a pair of pliers, can't go wrong, you cut it with a knife or a saw.
It was specifically the spinach, and I was like, it was kind of cool, you know, and he would go...
No wonder you're a crackpot.
It's funny.
I just remembered that.
I'm like, Grandpa used to do this crazy-ass thing.
How weird is that?
I wish he were still around, man.
That guy was pretty awesome.
He probably is.
He's probably right now smiling at me, chomping on some caviar with his pliers.
Oh, boy.
Well, in the morning to you, John C. Dvorak.
In the morning to you, Adam Curry.
In the morning to all ships at sea and boots on the ground and feet in the air.
And I'd like to say a special warm welcome and hello to all of the human resources who are in our chat room, always there to keep us on the straight and narrow and to yell ugly things.
How dumb I am as an example.
We have quite a quorum actually today from all around Gitmo Nation.
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Good to have you guys on board as we do the program live every Thursday and Sunday morning, 9 a.m.
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That would be Pacific Daylight Time in this case, so you'll have to adjust for your time zone.
And it kind of came to a realization, John, that...
The entire world seems to...
We have such a control grid on our consciousness here that while we have a million people on the streets of Spain rioting against their government, burning stuff, and the Gestapo police are there beating them into submission.
And Spain is just the latest.
Our government is so smart, they turn us against each other.
It's like the whole weekend, you know, you didn't see a single thing about Spain on television.
Not a single thing.
All you see is like white guys and black guys arguing about race and how we're all going to go kill each other.
And it's just, you know, it's like, wow, we are so dumb in America that we allow that to happen.
Well, we don't have much of a choice because the media is the one that controls the collective unconscious.
I know you have a couple of Spain clips.
Let me just close your eyes and imagine lots of kids burning stuff and smashing windows and just being really angry.
Oh yeah, and shooting.
I'm doing this because of the new government's abuse when it comes to spending cuts.
Erasing and denying those achievements we gained with many years of work and sacrifice.
It's going to be irreversible.
I don't like anything about the labour reform.
I don't see it helping employees.
You know, they get it.
They really get it.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, well...
Yeah, they get it.
They do.
But they also knew this was coming some time ago when they acceded to the EU's...
European Union.
Allowing them to borrow a bunch of money and spend it on projects that were...
Waste of money.
I mean, when I was in Madrid, I talked about this with some of the locals.
Garcia being one of them.
I haven't been able to get a hold of him, by the way.
Oh, really?
That doesn't sound good.
And we took the road.
I talked about that freeway that was built outside of Madrid.
Yeah, the beautiful one that no one's driving on.
There's nobody on it, period.
And I have a clip with more examples of this, which is the one about...
What's the clip name here?
Spain is Screwed?
Would that be the one?
No.
Spain Report?
Spain is screwed and Spain...
Play Spain is screwed.
Yeah, that seems like a more fun one to me.
Let's see what you see.
A further problem is the debt of the regions.
Valencia has the highest debt, a region struggling with the legacy of having backed prestigious projects.
Valencia splashed out on a dazzling city of arts and sciences.
The only problem, debt.
Still, around 600 million euros.
Castellan Airport glimmers in the sun.
The cost, 150 million euros of public money, but there was no demand and no plane has ever landed here.
No plane has ever landed.
That reminded me of that road when I saw this report.
We should go and land there.
Yeah, he'd be the first plane.
He's like, hello, November.
It looks like a beautiful little airport that has got nobody.
Foam up the runway!
We're coming in!
So the Spanish had a...
I reported on this when I went to Madrid recently on the show.
They have built all this cool stuff.
And it's all over Spain, too, because I noticed this when I was in a couple years earlier.
If you take that road to Marbella, Which is now, of course, they had to build that beautiful road, because it used to take three, four hours for the elites to get to their boats in Marbella.
And they built this road, and it's 45 minutes from the airport.
And it's just phenomenal.
There's nothing but concrete sitting empty along the whole road.
Yeah.
Well, I noticed these, like, if you go to Bilbao, they have all these beautiful subway stations.
And no trains!
They built up Spain with EU money that was just kind of, because I guess when the, I don't know when this began, but I guess at some point the EU felt like, you know, frisky.
Yeah.
And so they're doling out all this money, and then these countries aren't used to seeing that much free money, and I guess they didn't read the fine print.
So they basically locked him in.
They stole the money.
Come on, it's like it's all in buildings and everyone's already on their boat and sailing away and setting up camp in Paraguay.
Whatever the case is, these guys aren't...
When you listen to these reports on the BBC, like the other one, which I have, you can play it if you want.
The...
It's apparent that the model, the Greek situation is almost, is the fractals, or the template.
It's the template for everything else, and so Spain's just going to be the next domino.
Well, you know, the Italians are also protesting, but in a different way, which cracked me up.
Baron von Pelsmacher sent me this.
The Italian pharmacies are so angry about the austerity measures, which of course include a whole bunch of measures as it comes to healthcare.
They have now said, we will no longer supply anyone with Viagra.
And there's a real panic in Italy.
It's like...
What?
No Viagra?
No, no, no, no, no!
That's cool.
Well, you should hit them hard, man, because you know it's all those old douchebags in Parliament who need it.
Hey, wait a minute.
No Viagra.
We should probably change something here.
This is not good.
Then you go to Switzerland to get it.
So then here in...
Go to Iran to get it.
Yeah, they got plenty there.
It even looks right.
So, of course, here we still have nothing but the Trayvon Martin case, which is just pitting each other.
You know, it's divide and conquer.
At least you get to see a couple of interesting little tidbits.
My favorite one, which I have the clip of, and he deserves a douchebag, is Spike Lee.
Spike Lee.
Yeah.
There was one thing I was looking at this week.
Spike Lee tweeted out an address of what he thought was the Zimmerman's home, George Zimmerman's home, which was disturbing on a lot of levels.
And then it turned out that George Zimmerman didn't even live there.
What happened to the people who did live in that house?
Well, this house belonged to a couple.
They were in their 70s.
They did have a son there who lived there at one time whose middle name was George and last name was Zimmerman, but it wasn't the right guy.
It wasn't the right address.
So when Spike Lee retweeted this address that was out there, this couple started getting a lot of attention from the media.
They started getting menacing letters.
They started getting menacing phone calls.
They were worried about their safety, so they moved into a hotel.
They just left their house behind.
Yeah, let's give Spike Lee a...
Douchebag!
What a douchebag that guy is.
But interesting, they posed the question to Joe O'Biden, our vice-presidente.
You know, because there's two parts to this controversy.
One is race.
And by the way, I've learned that if you are Hispanic, that is an ethnicity, not a race.
So the argument...
It's a race here in California, according to everyone.
No, no, no.
If you say anything about the Latino community, you're a racist.
Technically, you should be an ethnicist.
Well, I think most guys can't pronounce it.
They would like to say that.
I'd like to say ethnicist.
You're an ethnicist.
You're a darn ethnicist, you.
No, because, you know, that's the argument.
I know it's not a race, but the point is, if you will get called out as a racist, if you do anything that's, you know, you're like a bitch about the immigration laws or do any of these things, you're a racist.
Yeah.
And the Mexican-Americans and the Mexicans will call you one.
Yeah.
Make up your mind, people.
Maybe I'm just hopeful, but I really don't think most Americans give a crap anymore.
Everyone's brown.
Everyone's brown now.
It's like we've intermingled, intermixed.
Everyone's brown.
It's cool.
Yeah, Christina's boyfriend, Juan.
The name is a giveaway.
Juan.
Juan Francisco.
No, I don't see this.
I don't see that he's brown.
I just hope we get some cool grandkids with like, you know, chocolate brown with blonde dreadlocks.
I'm hoping for that.
Anyway, oh, Biden is asking about...
Why we don't know, but go on.
Everyone wants beautiful grandkids, come on.
The dreadlocks?
Dreadlocks stink.
Literally.
Yeah, okay.
Well, I'm just saying.
Oh gosh, I can't believe I said that.
I hate that.
This is one of those millennial things.
I even wrote a blog post about it.
About what?
People saying, you know, they'll give you a criticism like, you're no good, just saying.
Oh yeah, just saying.
Yeah, you've been doing that a lot.
No, I have not been doing it a lot.
In fact, it was done to me over email and I was so angry about it that I wrote a blog post about it.
We have to eradicate this.
Okay.
Just saying.
But yeah, you can call me out if I do it.
That's how bad it is.
I hate it.
And I still do it myself.
All right.
Okay.
All right.
Jeez.
All right.
So Biden is asked about the gun issue.
Because, you know, of course, when we have, when you put the people of America and you pit them against each other, you don't want them, you know, having guns because, you know, eventually guns could be used against, I don't know, the government or something.
That's not a good idea.
So Joe Biden weighs in.
Well, look, on balance, I think that it's important that people be put in a position where their Second Amendment rights are protected, but that they also don't, as a consequence of the laws, unintentionally put themselves in harm's way.
You know, the bulk of the people who are shot with a weapon, other than these drug gangs taking on one another, end up being shot with their own weapon.
Let's dispel this myth once and for all.
What?
Is that even a myth?
Nobody believes that.
People who get shot the most are shot by...
They shoot themselves, apparently.
No, American military weapons or drones or bombs.
That's how most people are killed with weapons.
It's with stuff made by GE and Boeing.
Let's be honest about it.
No, but even if we just drop them from the formula, he's claiming that most people are shot with their own weapons.
Yes.
Statistically, it's a fact.
You didn't know that?
It's not a fact.
It's a fact.
Where did that fact come from?
Is it from who?
I don't know.
Joe Biden.
He's the vice president.
Who are you to question him?
And so the idea that there's this overwhelming additional security in the ownership and carrying, concealing deadly weapons, I think it's the premise, not the constitutional right, but the premise that it makes people safer.
Go into the Texans!
You know what?
I heard this clip.
I went out and bought a new gun.
I swear to God.
And other states that have white...
In fact, what's one of them?
I think it's New Hampshire or is it another one?
I don't know.
They have much less crime because everybody's armed.
Everybody's polite.
It's like, you know what?
Hey, man, I'm not going to mess with you because you might be armed.
Exactly.
You don't even have to have a gun in Texas.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Walker and Lake, you've got one.
I got the Ruger zombie slayer.
Have you ever seen this?
It actually says, in green letters on the side, it says Zombie Slayer.
And you get these little ammo that has a little green tip in it.
It's very cool.
The Zombie Slayer.
Like, are you seriously selling this?
Yeah, I need one.
That's too cool.
There it is.
It's a little handgun.
It looks too small.
It's a.380?
Yeah.
Nice.
The zombie slayer.
They also have it with a green laser sight, but I thought that was a little over the top.
What's up with these ideas?
Have you ever heard of such a thing?
It's genius, I tell you.
So it costs you $359?
No, I got it much cheaper than that.
Oh, that's mail orders $359.
And I got a low serial number.
I got like $128 or something.
Which is good.
It's a collector's item.
What are you looking at that costs $300?
That's too expensive.
I was looking online.
Oh.
So, I did a lot of research for everybody.
I felt it was necessary.
And I'll let you choose.
Zombie Slayer.
I'm sorry, I'm just distracted by the stupid little gun.
It's not stupid.
It's got a one-inch barrel.
Can it even hit anything?
It doesn't even have a sight.
I'm going to take it out on the range.
I bet you it's really good.
Does it have a sight?
It doesn't look like it.
It has a little sight.
No.
Yeah, it does.
Well, I don't have it here.
You just shoot away like a maniac and run for your life.
Well, that's what pistols are for.
They're just to shoot until you get to your rifle.
They're not for actually hitting anything.
Here's another crappy looking gun.
I hate to change the topic, but here's a 70.
Oh, this is a laser plug.
Never mind.
Go on.
I'm done.
Yeah, really?
Please stop already.
Well, I read through several pieces of legislation.
Maybe I should start with one.
The first thing, I started receiving a whole bunch of emails from people, which of course is an online campaign, which shows which senators voted against taxing big oil.
You know, like, and the amount of money they've received from oil companies and special interests showing how corrupt our government is.
Now, duh, so we know all that.
But then I'm like, you know, what actually was this bill about?
Because the president came out in the Rose Garden, had a cross section of Americans behind him, just some nondescript people, all shapes and sizes and colors and figures.
And, you know, and he I would refer to the American people and he kind of like glance over his shoulder like them back there.
Do you identify?
And I think it was being very disingenuous once I read what this legislation actually is.
And I want to share that with you because, you know, it's a very Republican thing to say that this was bad and, you know, we have no agenda.
But I think that there was something that he was not saying or lying about that it'll be good for you to know when the conversation comes up at a cocktail party.
Here's what the president said in the Rose Garden.
Today, members of Congress have a simple choice to make.
They can stand with the big oil companies, or they can stand with the American people.
Right now, the biggest oil companies are raking in record profits.
Profits that go up every time folks pull up into a gas station.
That's right.
Profits go up now.
And I don't think the profit margin goes up, but okay.
But on top of these record profits, oil companies are also getting billions a year.
Now that is by itself...
Really bending the truth.
Because it's not like there's some law somewhere that says, hey, you're an oil company?
Here's a billion dollars!
That, of course, we know that.
No, it's true.
There's an oil depletion allowance, which is...
Oh, no, it's much worse than that, John.
I found out what this is really about.
But let the president continue.
Because this is part of his campaign, really, just to scam us.
And if this legislation had been signed, I believe it truly would have resulted in something very bad.
So let's continue.
Billions a year in taxpayer subsidies.
Subsidies?
A subsidy that they've enjoyed year after year for the last century.
Century?
Really?
Think about that.
I'm thinking.
Think about it.
Think about it.
Hold on.
Are you thinking?
Yeah, I'm thinking.
What are you thinking?
I'm thinking, wow.
Wow, what a-holes, right?
Those guys are the worst.
Horrible.
It's like hitting the American people twice.
You're already paying a premium at the pump, right?
What premium?
What premium?
I don't understand what he's saying there.
You're already paying a premium?
Or does he mean we're tanking premium?
Because I get regular.
I don't get premium.
And on top of that, Congress...
Up until this point, has thought it was a good idea to send billions of dollars more.
No, wait a minute.
He's saying, John, what I'm hearing him say is Congress has this big bag of money, and they go or they pass the hat around, they put billions of dollars into it, and then they go, hey, here you go, billions of dollars.
In tax dollars.
Tax dollars.
To the oil industry.
Yeah.
It's not as if these companies can't stand on their own.
Oh, okay.
Alright, so now I'm interested.
And then he goes into this whole thing about what we really should be doing is not giving these billions of dollars to these horrible people who are already charging a premium on us for some reason.
But we need to put that into other really great things we know work really, really well.
I think it's curious that some folks in Congress who are the first to belittle investments in new sources of energy are the ones that are fighting the hardest to maintain these giveaways for the oil companies.
Now it's a giveaway?
We should have taxpayer giveaways to an industry that's never been more profitable.
We should be using that money to double down on investments in clean energy technologies that have never been more promising.
That have never been profitable.
Never been profitable ever.
It's never been profitable.
You can't make money doing it.
No, you can't.
That's the problem.
It works.
I mean, you can put a windmill up and it works, but the cost of the windmill, you'd have to use it for 50 years before it starts to pay back.
But okay, he is saying something truthful here about doubling down, and I'll prove that to you in a moment.
Investments in wind power, solar power, biofuels, investments in fuel-efficient cars and trucks, and energy-efficient homes and buildings.
That's the future.
Now, remember, he's saying investments here, right?
That's the only way we're going to break this cycle of high gas prices that happen year after year after year.
That's not true.
It's only happened recently.
Yeah, yeah.
It happened in the 70s and then it settled back down.
Now it's happening because of him.
The economy is growing.
The only time you start seeing lower gas prices is when the economy is doing badly.
Huh?
Is that true?
No, it's not true at all.
It's just the opposite.
Yeah, anyway, whatever.
Hold on a second.
In the 70s, when we had a downturn...
A horrible economy, yeah.
That's when we had the OPEC decided to gouge everybody, so they jacked up the prices, and then we started having $2 gasoline.
It was always way under $1 before then.
And now, since the dot-com crash and the downturn from 2000 to 2007...
Which was starting to pick up and then it crashed again in 2008.
The oil prices went up big time during Bush and they were bitching and moaning about it during the election.
And now when the economy tanked, it's gone way up.
So what is he thinking?
Where's his logic from?
Well, I don't know, but he asked you to think about it.
I did, and he's full of shit.
The economy is doing badly.
That's not the kind of pattern that we want to be in.
We want the economy to be doing well and people to be able to afford their energy costs.
Okay.
Now, so I'm down with that.
But, you know, I'm like, why?
You know, if you listen to the president and he tells you to think about it and this, you know, I've got all these visuals of, he's told me to think about it, so I've got a visual of Congress just sitting around smoking cigars and handing out billions in cash.
I'm like, wow, man, you know, it's like, yeah, screw those guys.
What's up with that?
Okay, so I go take a look at this bill.
This is Senate Resolution 2204, also known as the Repeal Big Oil Tax Subsidies Act.
What's the number again?
S2204. It'll be in the show notes at 396.nashownotes.com, marked up for your convenience.
So the...
The whole bill is, you know, kind of what he's saying, you know, extension for credit for certain plug-in, electric vehicles extended by a year, extension of credit for alternative fuel vehicle refueling property.
So, you know, if you're going to set up a refueling station, you get a credit.
Okay, I mean, if we all agree with this, that's fine with me.
It's okay, and I don't necessarily believe in all of it, but algae, by the way, this is an interesting one, is now being treated as a qualified feedstock for purposes of the cellulosic biofuel producer credit.
So I guess algae...
That's a real winner.
Yeah, that's a real winner.
Burn an algae.
Alright, so there's just pages and pages of this.
Then it comes to the relevant, right at the very bottom here.
It is the...
Well, actually, midway, we get Section 108, extension of production credit for wind facilities.
So I'm already like, hmm, production credit.
Okay, what is that?
Wind facilities will now be taken into consideration for the so-called production credit.
Also, an increased credit amount for Indian coal facilities.
So coal apparently is okay.
Coal is all through this thing.
Then we have extension of election of investment tax credit in lieu of the production credits.
I'm like, what is this production credit thing?
Oh, I might want to point out, there's an expansion of qualifying advanced energy production credit.
It's merely $4.6 billion.
Actually, it was $2.3 billion, and it's now been doubled.
That's the doubling down to $4.6 billion.
Okay, so we're spending an additional $2.3 billion on advanced energy project credit.
Which I guess means research and development and setting up other stuff.
It's not really for producing anything.
We're also extending the mine rescue team training credit and the election to expense mine safety equipment.
So mining and coal is good.
That's okay.
That's a part of it.
At the very bottom, last page, repeal of oil and gas subsidies, subtitle A, close big oil tax loophole.
Okay.
Okay.
So this is where these guys are getting their...
What is this doing in a bill?
I'm looking at it, too.
You're going along, there's extension of this, you bend, blah, blah, blah, and it says, close big oil tax loophole!
Right, so...
This doesn't belong in a bill.
Well, here's where it gets very interesting.
And you know me, for some reason, I get off on this.
I love doing this crap.
Limitation on Section 199 deduction attributable to oil, natural gas, or primary products thereof.
And what it is saying is denial of deduction.
Paragraph 4 of Section 199C of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 is amended by adding at the end the following new subparagraph.
Special rule for certain oil and gas income.
In the case of any taxpayer, that would be a corporation.
It was a major integrated oil company.
Essentially, that deduction credit will no longer apply to them.
So then I'm like, you know what?
Why don't I go take a look at Section 199 of the Internal Revenue Code?
Here it is.
Income attributable to domestic production activities.
This is, in our tax code, it allows the deduction of 9% of your cost if you produce something in the United States from American goods.
So in general, I'm reading directly from the tax code, domestic production gross receipts means the gross receipts of the taxpayer, which are derived from any lease, rental, license, sale, exchange, or other disposition of qualifying production property, which was manufactured, or other disposition of qualifying production property, which was manufactured, produced, grown, or extracted by the taxpayer in whole or in significant part within the United States.
So that would be any type of energy product, but also any qualified film produced by the taxpayer.
So the entire movie industry is allowed to deduct 9% from their gross receipts right off the top.
That's for their production, so it's really their cost.
Electricity, natural gas, and potable water produced by the taxpayer in the United States.
Also, you get that production credit.
Construction, engineering, or architectural services, right?
Notice making a podcast is not on this list.
Now, what is excluded?
Excluded is the sale of food and beverages prepared at a retail establishment and the transmission or distribution of electricity, natural gas, or potable water.
So pipelines and stuff don't count.
Oh, by the way, any computer software, such as anything Apple makes or Microsoft, also enjoys this 9% deduction.
So what they are saying...
Is we want to take one little division, well not little, but one portion of the American industry, of all of them, and make them pay for the algae stuff by removing their 9%.
There's only one thing that this would have resulted in.
Increase prices.
Because that would have been passed right on to us.
So what the president should have said, hey, we all agree we love algae and we love the solar and we love the wind power, which has now been added, so let's pay more for it.
Do we all agree?
Should we just put another 9% on what we're already paying for gas?
Then let's pass this bill.
But he doesn't say that.
And by the way, why don't we just lower it for everybody?
Apple's got a lot of money.
Why can't we take some of their dough?
Oh no, the iPad would be more expensive.
So I was kind of shocked at the disingenuity...
I don't know if that's a word.
You know what I mean, though, right?
I like it, though.
It's something about ingenuity, disingenuous kind of combined to make disingenuity.
It's called the bull crap, then.
Yes.
It was disingenuous.
Was she real?
Obama?
Yeah, but it was...
Holy crap, let me write the date down.
When did he give that speech?
This past week.
Wow, I mean, I gotta put that as a first.
So, you know, I was just like, wow, man, you know, it makes it sound like we're just handing out, but we're handing the same billions of dollars to the movie industry.
I mean, how about this?
How about we make the price?
It's only $2.3 billion.
That's all that we're really adding into it.
Let's double it.
Let's make it $5 billion.
Do you mind paying an extra?
Two dollars for your movie ticket.
It will save the planet.
That's how you do this, not by lying about guys in a room handing out billions of dollars.
Well, obviously you can't do it that way, because nobody's going to pay two bucks extra on a movie ticket for algae growing.
I don't think so.
What are you talking about?
Because everybody knows this is all just...
They kind of feel good.
It's all feel good.
You know, yeah, we got to get to wind.
Yeah, I feel a lot better about myself because I support wind power, man.
And the algae, man.
They're growing algae, man.
But paying two bucks...
No, hey, hey, hey.
The whole thing is a farce.
Stop that crap.
We can't be having that.
It doesn't take much to turn the public into cynics.
All right.
So you got to lie to them.
Yeah.
But it keeps on going.
And I'm like, okay, that's enough.
You went deeper into this?
Not into this.
Then he comes out with his little show, which he does every weekend.
It's the Barack show.
It's a romantic comedy.
It's called The Presidential Address.
And...
And in this he's pushing the Buffett Rule Act, which actually is the Paying a Fair Share Act of 2012.
So there's just so much in this that is not true.
And, of course, I read the act as well.
And I need your help on this because this is really not okay, what is taking place.
So let's listen to the president from his little show.
Over the last few months, I've been talking about a choice we face as a country.
We can either settle for an economy where a few people do really well and everybody else struggles to get by.
Wait a minute.
Isn't that the American dream?
Yeah, it was the American dream.
Just getting by.
I thought that was good.
All right.
I guess we're not good enough now for you, huh?
Or we can build an economy where hard work pays off again.
Okay.
Where everyone gets a fair shot.
Oh.
You know what I grew up, John?
You know what my mom used to say?
Life's not fair!
Did you ever hear that from your parents?
Probably.
I think everybody's heard that.
That's not fair!
And my mom would go, life's not fair!
Well, that's a snarky response to my complaints.
I'm just saying.
I think that was kind of, you know, my parents are older than you.
My mom's no longer with us.
And she's probably, I hope she's laughing, but a decade older or 15 years older than you, I guess.
That's what they would say.
Life's not fair.
Get over it.
This is what it is.
It's okay.
That's how it was brought up.
But now it's like, oh, everything has to be fair.
All right.
Everyone does their fair share.
What does that mean?
Fair share.
What does that fair share mean?
He loves using that.
I don't even know who it appeals to.
Idiots.
Everyone plays by the same rules.
That's another thing.
No, not everyone plays by the same rules.
Because it's people who cheat and lie and do all kinds of stuff.
It's not like rules.
That's up to us.
Today I want to talk to you about the idea that everyone in this country should do their fair share.
What does that mean?
It's hilarious he keeps saying it.
...perfect world.
We'd have unlimited resources.
Wait, I've got to back this up.
This was very funny.
This was actually pretty funny.
Perfect world.
We'd have unlimited resources.
No one would ever have to pay any taxes and we could spend as much as we wanted.
Yeah, that sounds good to me.
How about you, John?
I'm in.
We looked at hookers, spend whatever we want, there's no taxes.
Now you're talking my language, Mr.
President.
But we live in the real world.
Oh.
Bummer.
We don't have unlimited resources.
We have a deficit that needs to be paid down.
And we also have to pay for investments that will help our economy grow and keep our country safe.
Education, research and technology, a strong military, and retirement programs like Medicare and Social Security.
That scared me.
When he slipped Social Security in there, I've been paying for that.
He's saying we have to pay for it.
Wait a minute.
I thought we already paid for that.
That scared me a little bit when he said that.
But okay, I'll let him slip.
They're trying to screw us.
So he, yes.
Well, he comes out with, well, not he, but there is a bill.
This is Senate Bill 2059er to reduce the deficit by imposing a minimum effective tax rate for high-income taxpayers.
Actually, I should probably play his 30 seconds of what he proposes to do about this.
Let me see.
Here it is.
Sorry.
This is the Paying a Fair Share Act.
Yes.
Listen to this.
The last decade, we've spent hundreds of billions of dollars on what was supposed to be a temporary tax cut.
Again, with the spending.
Again, it's sounding like we just gave all these millionaires and billionaires hundreds of millions of dollars.
Look, here's a bag.
Here's a bag, Mr.
Buffett.
For the wealthiest 2% of Americans.
Now we're scheduled to spend almost a trillion more.
You got my attention.
Today, the wealthiest Americans are paying taxes at one of the lowest rates in 50 years.
Warren Buffett is paying a lower rate than his secretary.
That's because he's a scam artist.
Yeah, he's an a-hole.
He doesn't pay his secretary enough.
Meanwhile, over the last 30 years, the tax rates for middle-class families have barely budged.
Oh.
That's not fair.
Not fair!
Life's not fair!
Doesn't make any sense.
Do we want to keep giving tax breaks to the wealthiest Americans, folks like myself or Warren Buffett or Bill Gates?
Bill Gates.
Yeah, let's give him some tax breaks.
People who don't need them and never ask for them.
I love how he compares himself to Bill Gates and Warren Buffett.
What is Barack's kitty?
What is he sitting on?
Folks like them.
I don't think you're in that class.
Speaking of class...
No.
Now, some people call this class warfare, but I think asking a billionaire to pay at least the same tax rate as a secretary is just common sense.
We don't envy success in this country.
We aspire to it.
But we also believe that anyone who does well for themselves should do their fair share in return.
Yeah.
It's called philanthropy.
And we have a very rich history of this, of setting up all kinds of foundations and funds and leaving your money and beautiful museums and libraries and...
Oh, you mean something else.
I'm sorry.
So that more people have the opportunity to get ahead.
Yeah.
All right, so there's the whole idea.
And if you look at the bill, it's very simple.
At least in the beginning, it's very simple.
As it says, in general, the tentative fair share tax for the taxable year is 30% of the excess of the adjusted gross income of the taxpayer over $1 million.
So currently, the bracket that we have is 28%.
As high for federal taxes.
And so this would be a 30% tax bracket if you make, presumably, an income over $1 million.
Now, this is not exactly the same as capital gains.
In fact, this document, as far as I can tell, does not necessarily deal with it.
But what this is meant to do is, and it says it down here at the very end, Congress should, it's not in the bill itself, but they're saying what this is intended to do is enact tax reform that repeals unfair and unnecessary tax loopholes and expenditures, simplifies the system for millions of taxpayers and businesses by eliminating the alternative minimum tax for middle class Americans.
So the bill is incomplete because it's saying this is how it should work is we tax everyone who makes over a million dollars income, not capital gains, but income at a 30% rate so we can get rid of the alternative minimum tax for the middle class.
John, would you like to...
I'll give the history and then, John, maybe you can explain a little bit more how the alternative minimum tax works.
Because what this...
This was set up in...
I have the history here.
In 1970, then Treasury Secretary Joseph Barr found out that 155 high-income households had not paid a dime of federal income taxes.
They had taken advantage of so many tax benefits and deductions, they had reduced their tax liability down to zero.
And Congress responded by creating an add-on tax on high-income households equal to, at that time, 10% of the sum of tax preferences in excess of $30,000.
And since 1970, this alternative minimum tax has been adjusted for inflation.
So that even though prices have gone up and your wages have gone up, in real spending power you may not have actually had more money.
So they had to adjust that level up every single time.
And what they're talking about now is not adjusting that level, but we should get rid of it after we take the money from the millionaires and billionaires.
Can you explain how the alternative minimum tax works, John, just so people kind of get a grasp on it?
I'm not even sure myself, but I know this is that the alternative minimum tax was set up to ensure that people pay a minimum amount of tax.
In other words, if you have a really good, some sort of a...
Lots of write-offs.
It's essentially a tax you have to pay minimally if you make money, but you don't pay any taxes.
So right now, I believe the amount is $183,000.
If you make over $183,000...
Then you will have to pay whatever portion is over that amount.
You will have to pay this alternative minimum tax over that.
So there is talk of raising that to $250,000.
I'm looking here on the IRS bulletin, and for the year 2010, the alternative minimum tax exemption was $72,000 for a married couple, $47,000 for a single.
Oh, I'm mistaken.
So basically, middle class, if you're making over $47,000, which...
$47,000 is pretty, you know, very lower middle class in today's world.
We're not talking about the 40s.
Right.
And so if you make over $47,000, no matter what you do, you have a minimum tax you have to pay.
Right.
So you just can't expense your way out of it.
So they're talking about raising that.
In other words, if you make $47,000 for, and you spend it all on, I think it's all gone, just to stay alive, you still have to pay taxes.
Yes.
On whatever pittance you have left.
Normally, they've adjusted that up, but what's now happening is we're not going to adjust that.
We want to have the millionaires and billionaires pay for that, and that will then allow us to remove that minimum tax.
Well, according to the Congressional Budget Office, They say we'll probably lose about $864 billion over a 10-year period because the Buffett rule, according to the CBO, who it's their job to report on this, would generate $47 billion over 10 years or less than $5 billion a year.
But here's the kicker.
This doesn't start until 2013.
He didn't mention that.
That's because the Bush tax lash-up expires on January 1st, 2013.
Right.
I don't know how much longer you're going to dwell on this, but I do have a clip that kind of addresses it from the other side.
Please.
So we had Bernanke and what's his name?
The guy from Leave it to Beaver.
What's his name?
Timmy?
Yeah, right.
Timmy Geithner.
And they were discussing certain things.
And so I got two clips from Bernanke, which kind of says it all.
Bernanke, sorry.
First of all, I'll start with the Bernanke ratio spiel.
No?
Yeah, let me set it up then.
He's being asked, how long can we go on with the situation we currently have?
And I think this is one of the things Obama's trying to address by screwing us up.
But you'll see by the second comment that Bernanke says, which is Bernanke number two, that Obama's barking up the wrong tree.
But go on.
Chairman Bernanke, is our current fiscal trajectory sustainable?
In the United States?
In the United States.
No, it's not.
End of clip.
Beautiful.
We're done.
What is a sustainable debt load for a country such as ours?
Zero.
Well, there's no exact number.
I think that the current levels would be sustainable if they were kept more or less constant relative to the GDP. I mean, I think that's an important criterion.
If we could, over a period of years, get the debt-to-GDP ratio to some level like 75%, and then over time even begin to improve that, I think that would be a much better situation.
But as it stands, the CBO... It's like my crotch exploding.
Hey, so right now our debt ratio, we're at 100%, right?
I don't know what it is.
Yeah, no, I think now with the like $14 or $15 trillion, it is 100% of what our revenues are on an annual basis.
Yeah, yeah, it's like we're like Greece.
So here, we're not as bad.
So here, so now another guy comes back into the hearing to ask this specific question just to get, because Geithner's there.
By the way, I don't have the clip of him because they go to Geithner after Bernanke says this, the following thing.
And Geithner says, we disagree.
Geithner disagrees, but it's, you know, I think Bernanke's gotten the right track here.
So, explain what happens.
You've mentioned this before, and just to clarify, what happens at the end of this year?
In terms of our fiscal situation.
Well, for a number of reasons.
If on current law, if no further action is taken, there'll be what I've termed a fiscal cliff on January 1st of 2013.
What?
As a number of tax and other provisions expire, including the Bush tax cuts, the payroll tax, UI benefits.
And at the same time on the spending side is the sequestration arising from the failure of the super committee to agree kicks in.
And if all those things happen.
The sequestration, that means that doesn't mean that the Treasury and the Federal Reserve just get to do whatever they want?
No, no, no.
This is referring to that committee that...
I know, but the whole thing...
No, it means that the military has to cut their spending is what it means.
Oh, okay.
And I think that would be a very sharp and rapid fiscal contraction that would be a serious negative for the recovery.
I hope that Congress will take the opportunity to think through where they want fiscal policy to go, and this will be in some sense a forcing event.
So austerity too fast and spending cuts too soon and tax increases that would have a negative impact on economic growth.
That's the fiscal cliff you're speaking of.
A very sharp change in fiscal stance in a short period of time would have a negative effect on growth, yes.
Again, it is important to achieve sustainability over a longer period, but One day is kind of a short period to have such a big change in the position.
Secretary Guy and Ryan.
Let me ask you a question, John, as a world-renowned economist.
Should I then wait with purchasing a home or land and acquiring a mortgage until that 2013 moment?
Well, for one thing, I don't think this 2013 thing is going to happen.
I mean, in terms of everything on January 1st, the whole place falling apart.
No.
What you have to do is you've got to get a good loan at a good price on a piece of property that's undervalued.
I mean, at any time.
It could be tomorrow.
It could be two years from now.
It could be three years from now.
I mean, that's just essentially the rule.
And the other thing is if you really track overall economic conditions with housing prices and you look at them, and there's been a lot of studies of this, they really don't necessarily track together.
It's just, you know, odd that the housing crisis caused this last year.
You know, essential panic that we have.
Right.
But they don't track together.
So the housing prices could be bottoming now.
They could be bottoming later.
Or in certain local areas, they could have already bottomed out.
I think that's happened in the Bay Area.
I think it's happened in Austin, too.
Because Austin, people are building, man.
This is like the whole downtown area.
It's just, you know, they're going big for the conventions, and it's just, you know, it's huge what's happening here.
Yeah, there are some parts of the country where the prices are still going down, and I think that's because we're looking at housing, and Horowitz, we look at housing starts and housing prices and resale values and mortgages, and overall in the country, it's still sliding down, but in certain areas, it's already picking up.
There's some green shoots.
Whether that sustains another question.
There's some green shoots.
Yeah.
Let me finish up with, and Mickey was listening to this, so she's off to the side, and she is not an American yet, and her head swings around and she says, that's bullcrap, that's not true.
Listen to this.
This is a part of the Barack show.
You're the ones who deserve a break.
You deserve a break today.
So every member of Congress is going to go on record.
And if they vote to keep giving tax breaks to people like me, tax breaks our country can't afford, then they're going to have to explain to you where that money comes from.
It comes from that bag that y'all have in Congress.
You can voluntarily give more money, Barack.
Yeah.
It's part of the tax code.
It is.
If you really feel bad about it, just add another $1,000 on the bill.
I mean, it's not a big deal.
I don't understand why Buffett doesn't do that.
Now listen.
Listen to see if you can catch what swiveled Mickey's head around.
Either it's going to add to our deficit, or it's going to come out of your pocket.
Seniors will have to pay more for their Medicare benefits.
Students will see their interest rates go up at a time when they can't afford it.
By the way, that's happening anyway.
That's happening this summer when the rates double.
We've already reported on that.
That's going to be a fiasco, but that's not what I'm talking about.
Families who are scraping by will have to do more because the richest Americans are doing less.
You bastards.
That's not right.
That's not who we are.
In America, our story has never been about what we can do by ourselves.
It's about what we...
Wait, wait, wait.
You're just like Mickey.
She went, what?
Listen to this.
But there's a second part to it.
It's about what we can do together.
Oh.
It's about what we can do...
No, it's not!
When has...
What is...
Where is this guy...
What country is this guy from?
Kenya?
Kenya?
Let me listen to that again.
No, it was really good.
In America, our story has never been about what we can do by ourselves.
It's about what we can do together.
It's about believing in our future and the future of this country.
So tell your members of Congress to do the right thing.
It's just not true.
This is the country of opportunity for the self-made man.
Yeah, individualism.
Who then, hopefully, treats his employees well, does great things for his community.
Austin is built on Dell and Lance Armstrong.
And Dell?
The capital?
The government?
We got nothing here.
There's no oil, no nothing.
Yeah, the capital.
The capital, obviously.
And the University of Texas and all the research has done that.
Well, UT, of course, paid for Dell as well.
But, yeah, that's how it's supposed to work.
And then you spread it around, and that's why we have 5% official number unemployment here in Austin.
And everyone's, you know, there are guys at the stoplights, But we don't really have homeless that I've seen, and I've looked around.
I'm sure we have some tent camps somewhere that I just haven't found yet.
But it's much better than most of the country.
It's a lot better than Spain.
But to say...
We're not about one guy.
No, this makes no sense.
That's why people come here.
I go to America, I can work my butt off, and I can...
Yeah, they don't come to America to join a collective, to become a member of a kibbutz.
I mean, come on!
Hey man, we need to thank some producers because we are just scraping by.
But every single morning, Ms.
Mickey and I wake up and we go, man, how awesome is it?
We get to do what we want to do.
And you don't have a suit telling you what to do.
Yeah, thank you.
Like Keith Olbermann who just got fired.
Gee, how predictable was that?
Yeah, that's pretty predictable.
He either has to go on his own or he's going to just keep getting fired.
Yeah.
He takes a lot of guts.
I don't think he's got the nerve to go on his own.
No.
Like us.
Like us, John.
Like us.
Is that what you're saying?
Like us.
Exactly.
I think we should also thank our producers that help us, including at the top of the list today, our executive producer, Rubio Spice Company.
Hey, no.
He hopes he makes the cutoff of the April Fool's show, the road heading to a big meeting with Costco.
Costco, Mexico.
Hey now.
Para mañana.
Hold on a second.
Where is it?
Para mañana!
I'd love some meeting karma in hopes that the marketing leads to Costco buying Griller's Rub, which is the rub I use, by the way.
Oh, that's the stuff you like.
Yeah, right.
Cool.
Yeah, it's quite good.
I'm going to talk to these guys some more because I'd like to get them to do a couple other things.
There was one of my favorite steak...
You know, steak seasoning is really sketchy.
Most of it's crap, and it's big chunks of stuff.
It's terrible.
I got the guy here at the market.
He makes his own with his own homegrown cocoa beans.
He makes a rub.
It's pretty outstanding.
Okay, well, let me get back to that.
I'm talking about steak seasoning, not a red.
Oh, I'm sorry.
And there used to be a, I mean, I taste, I check all these, you know, these spices that are blended all the time.
And the Winn-Dixie stores in the South used to carry a line.
I think they're still carried.
I think they may have been phasing out.
They bought a spice company called Aster.
that was absolutely phenomenal for steaks and chicken and everything else.
And they kind of discontinued it because I guess at some point, the rumor is that they were grinding a bunch of this stuff up, and I guess one of the grinding machines fell apart, and most of the steak seasoning was metal filings.
I can make that.
And apparently it just gave the whole thing a bad reputation.
Other stuff.
Other stuff.
Like silica.
So I think that if we can get the Rubio's Spice company to isolate that formula, I think they'd be on to something.
But anyway...
Hey, can I just say, I'd love to try some of the Rubio's Spice.
So maybe you can shoot me an email.
Oh, he'll send you some.
Yeah, I'd love to try it.
Are you kidding me?
Yeah, it'd be awesome.
It comes in a big container.
It's good for like, you know, 20 racks of ribs.
Quite a bit.
Anyway, thanks as always for the best podcast in the universe and you got your shameless plug there apparently.
And a little bit of karma.
Hold on a second.
Meeting karma for you?
Meeting karma.
You've got karma.
Ryan Benson in Tampa, Florida, $330.
Another executive producer.
Thanks for the greatest podcast in the universe.
You chose such a welcome light of honest intelligence in a dark world of ignorance and media manipulation.
Somehow, you even make the depressing news and analysis funny and entertaining.
Yeah.
Hey, now.
This douchebag has been listening for years now.
Never donated.
Please consider this my mea culpa and de-douche me.
I'm turning 30 on April 2nd.
We got him on the birthday list.
I want to add that I think there's a great argument in favor of your donation, Mal, that I'm not sure you ever mentioned on the air.
Many shows develop a core audience that loves them, and then when they go to advertising, they bend to the pressure to widen their demographics to get more advertisers, which you have to do.
And this almost always waters down the programming, so it's crap.
Yeah, you start to suck.
That's exactly right.
No agenda will never do this if people like us continue to help keep you on the air.
That's right.
$330 from Ryan.
De-douching.
You've been de-douched.
Mark Randall's here for...
I think...
Let me just take one quick look.
No note.
I don't see a note.
Yeah, you know, he may have said something.
I'm just going to take a quick look into the...
While you're doing that, let me mention, everybody, that the cutoff time for donations for the show itself is...
Is it midnight the day before, John?
Yeah, and the reason for that is...
PayPal, basically.
Yeah, well, what happens on Thursday in particular, and I talked, by the way, we've got a new, we have some PayPal, because I wrote some column.
So the PayPal people contacted me and they said they gave us a whole bunch, a team of people that will help us if we have issues.
Oh, you wrote about PayPal sucking?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so that's the only way to get attention in this world.
Yeah.
Good job.
Good job.
They told me that they do a lot of maintenance on Thursday and it causes some difficulty getting downloads.
And so we ran into the situation where we would ask for the downloads of the contributors on Thursday morning and we wouldn't get it in time for the show.
So they kindly offered to move their maintenance window to a different day, right?
No, no, they're not changing anything.
Oh, really?
So we're going to continue doing this.
And you have a whole team?
Do you have a team leader and everything?
Yeah.
Really?
Is she hot?
No.
It's a bunch of guys.
A bunch of nerds.
Anyway, Michael Randall in Halifax, Nova Scotia, 233-32.
He sends a note in.
I'm a recent political science graduate and started listening since January.
Now you've convinced me the U.S. and China are in the middle of a Cold War with the U.S. attacking on the pipeline front and China attacking on the cyber front.
I'm a first-time donor.
I'd like a shot of karma and to douchebag my friend Miles.
Douchebag!
Miles, who has been listening longer than me, but never donated.
Can I also get a podcast license for the best Canadian podcast, Background Noise, which can be found at backgroundnoise.ca.
I would highly recommend it to all the slaves out there.
Happy to support the best podcast in the universe.
He needs some karma.
You got it.
Thank you so much for your support.
You've got karma.
And that was...
233.32.
Then we have Ryan...
No, no, no.
Tyler Crothers.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I went down too far.
I'm sorry.
Tyler Crothers, Lincoln, Nebraska, 233.
What's up, John?
I just got the No Agenda email today about the Google throwing all the emails.
Yeah, we had a mailing last week.
I was going to explain on this show.
Yeah.
So I had to send out another mailing to have people look in there because we got like...
15 to 20% response.
Not responses.
We never get that much.
We got about 15 to 20% of people open the email.
That was extremely low because we normally have 60.
And I think there's still a lot of spam problems.
So I've isolated what it was and it's kind of a weird bug.
But it's in the Google spam filters.
Let me guess.
If you use Google Payments, your emails don't go to spam.
If you use PayPal links, your stuff goes to spam.
Is that an educated guess?
That's a good attempt.
No, actually what it was, it's weird.
I had always been running the mailings that we do.
We run the mailings through MailChimp.
And MailChimp, if you want to see what people are clicking on, because you put a bunch of links in your mail saying, I want you to check this out, check that out.
You tell MailChimp to track the clicks.
And in so doing, they do one of these forwarding things where when you click on something, it actually goes to Mailchimp, then it gets forwarded to the real link.
You know how that works.
What's it called?
A forwarding?
It's called a...
There's a word for it.
Fishing!
No, it's not fishing.
It actually could be construed as such, I suppose.
But anyway, no, it's a way to...
It's the only way it can track.
It's a tracking mechanism.
Right.
So every link would be, it comes from MailChimp, because they're the mail delivery service, and then every link would have MailChimp, MailChimp, MailChimp, then a forwarding link.
This time I said, you know, it's probably going to cost the users a millisecond.
It has to go this roundabout way.
Because I was playing with it earlier in the day and it seems to be delaying.
MailChimp was burdened or something.
So I killed that.
Why bother tracking the clicks?
Just give the people a straight link.
That got me spammed.
Really?
Yes.
And here's what my explanation is.
By reverse engineering the process.
Google knows that MailChimp's a very rigid company.
If somebody unsubscribes, if you unsubscribe to this list, you will never get back on it.
MailChimp would just not let it happen.
MailChimp is really good about spam, and they do testing, they have all these things.
So if it comes from MailChimp, it's probably a legitimate Mail.
Google Mail knows this.
Mm-hmm.
And then when they go down the line, they see MailChimp, MailChimp, MailChimp, because those are all the forwardings.
They say, yeah, it's typical of a MailChimp mailing, because everybody does this.
Passes it through.
I, by being a smartass, killed the forwarding thing, and so it was coming from MailChimp, but every link was like, no agenda show, direct links to all these different things, right?
Uh-huh.
Google looks at that, oh, it's probably a pharmacy.
And they killed me.
Us.
They killed us.
Well, they killed me because it's my fault.
Luckily, you're not really dead.
They killed me.
But anyway, they killed our mailing and there was mostly Google.
There was a few other guys.
But that was the reason because that's the only thing I did different.
So every single show notes for every episode has an RSS link.
To the newsletter.
And that's the best way to get it, I guess.
We can't track it, and so we don't know who opened or not.
But it just proves that email is broken and dead.
You wrote another column about email, which I saw was pretty interesting.
But I would recommend you subscribe to the RSS link for the newsletter and screw the tracking.
We just want you to get the information.
Alright, let's move on because this is taking a long time.
Sorry about that.
I promised a bunch of people that I'd tell them what happened.
And people, if you're going to use MailChimp, now you know that little story.
Don't do that.
Don't be smart.
Anyway, so Crothers.
I got to know John's email and he saw at the bottom and said our phone number.
He called me.
So anyway, that was...
And you answered?
Yeah, I answered.
I don't encourage it, by the way.
He said, I called it.
Holy shit, it's really John on the other end of the line.
I thought that was cool as hell.
Hey, you know what?
He's donating $233?
Hey!
A new promotion.
Talk to John.
Get some wine advice.
Talk about Costco.
Talk about meat rubs.
Rub your meat with John for $233.
This is a new promotion.
I'm feeling it.
Ryan Burgett in Oceala, Washington, $200.01.
Well, apparently I'm an idiot and was unable to actually make this donation on time with the show.
Hope you still read my note.
Okay?
Keep informing us, drones.
Danny Baker in Morristown, Tennessee, $200, requesting karma for my step-niece Heather, who has been diagnosed with stage 2 cancer.
Yikes, at the age of 21.
That's terrible.
Fancy hate cancer karma.
Here you go.
Karma.
And we want to thank all those contributors, especially the executive producers, the associate executive producers for show 396.
I want to remind you to go to NoAgendaShow.com, NoAgendaNation.com, Dvorak.org, slash NA, and ChannelDvorak.com, slash NA, and keep us going here.
We need your help.
That's right.
We definitely do.
We need your help.
And before we move on, just a few PR mentions.
We still have people are now understanding that we'd rather have you send us the money or get a five dollar a month subscription.
We have more than enough domain names, but I still will will mention that I do like what CS had.
He says, I've had this around for a while, and I know you're stopping with it, but I think it'd be good if we forward this to knowage in the show dot com.
Romney sucks dot org, which is pretty good.
And I think we'll be able to remember that.
Romney sucked.
Yeah, we should be able to sell it to someone else.
For some money.
Here's what I like.
This is the kind of promotion PR initiatives that I think are really good.
Do you recall, John, we talked about Ken Sunshine?
On the previous episode.
Yes, Ken Sunshine.
Yes, he is the guy who does all the PR for all the top celebrities.
Do you remember when we talked about his wiki page?
How there was almost no entry.
Yeah, he has been dogging it.
Yeah, why don't you go to his wiki page and read for me the last paragraph.
There's only three paragraphs.
I'm already guessing what it might be.
It's a great PR move.
Check it out.
And it's been up for like three days.
He'll probably get rid of it shortly.
Let me get there.
Go ahead, read it.
Okay.
So, goes on, he's got three graphs.
His third graph says, he was featured on No Agenda Show in 2012 in a controversial episode, which Adam Curry described him as, quote, a douchebag.
Which, by the way, I didn't do, because I listened to the episode.
But that's okay, we like it.
Yeah, you didn't do that.
That's probably good, since you don't want to be douching everybody that doesn't know anything.
Especially if you don't get the concept.
Yeah.
No comment has yet been made by a representative of the No Agenda show as to the basis of these remarks.
The controversy has sparked conversation about freedom of speech and podcasting and liability.
Where's our link down at the bottom under references?
That's the only thing that didn't work out too well for us.
But someone can put the link in.
I mean, come on.
It's a wiki.
And by the way, when you put these in, No Agenda Show has a wiki page.
So you can highlight that with a forwarding link.
Oh, that's right.
In the Wikipedia.
And Adam Curry does too.
So you can highlight his name.
I forget what is the method for that.
I don't know.
I'm sure there's a wiki page for douchebag.
In fact, let me, since I didn't put this in, it's got nothing to do with me, I am going to write...
Stay away, stay away, stay away.
I know, I'm going to put this...
Now watch this, watch how easy this is.
Oh gosh, isn't you do it like in quotes or something?
No, no, two brackets.
Two brackets?
Okay, I'm refreshing.
Give me a break here, just take me one second to fix this.
One...
Here we go.
He doesn't understand this situation.
Let me just show preview so I make sure I didn't screw it up.
I don't see it, man.
It's not coming through.
I'm just previewing it right now.
I'm looking at it.
Okay.
Oh, No Agenda Show.
Wait, wait, wait.
What's it?
Go to the wiki page for No Agenda Show and see how that's...
What happened to your one second?
Just go to the No Agenda Show thing.
Agenda.
Is it one word or is it one, two words?
Hold on.
I'm going, I'm going, I'm going.
It says the page does not exist.
No space agenda.
No space?
Agenda.
There's no space.
No underscore agenda is the URL. It doesn't say no agenda podcast, it just says no agenda.
We are the Wikipedia entry for no agenda.
Okay, hold on a second.
Let me get this fixed.
So why don't you take a second?
Someone else in the chat room is going to do it before you're even done with all this.
No, no, I'm doing it now.
If they're getting there, they're going to be messing with me.
Bogaricious.
And I'm only, I'm just being cautious here because I'm on the air.
Otherwise, I just save page.
I never really do this much extra work.
It was already...
Okay, we're ready to go.
Hold on.
I'm going to post it.
All right.
I'm refreshing.
I'm looking.
I'm just going to save now.
Save.
Oh, there it is.
Yay!
Good job.
Now, you got No Agenda and Adam Curry are both...
Very good.
Very good, John.
Very good.
Very good.
That's how you do it, ladies and gentlemen.
Real time.
All right.
Thank you for this instructional lesson.
So thanks to our executive producers, our associate executive producers.
These are actual credits, and you see that you can actually call and have someone vouch for you, me or John.
You can just call John.
Just call him.
Don't do it.
Just call him.
And of course, you can go out and propagate our ever-important formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
We hit people in the mouth.
We hit people in the mouth.
Say it with me now.
Shut up, slave!
And Tyler Crothers says, Hey man!
I spoke to John.
I sent 233 bucks.
But I didn't get no karma!
Alright, man.
Sorry.
You've got karma.
I don't think it was actually in his note.
I didn't see it in his note.
But that's okay.
It's alright.
He sent me an email.
Real time.
Here we go.
I do not see the word karma in his note.
No.
You don't just get karma.
People have got to be a little more judicious with their request for karma.
And can I have a karma shot?
How about some deep douchings, you know, or douchebags?
He asked for a karma shot.
It's in the note.
I see it now.
Okay.
So he was right.
All right.
Onward.
All right.
Good.
Onward.
Yes.
Since you have eight million things to share with us today, why don't you...
I don't have that many.
Why don't you continue?
I'd close my email box and come up with something.
What does that mean?
I mean, when I went to the wiki page, I shut down my email and I got to go back to it.
Ah, here it is.
So, person of interest.
I got this clip from a number of producers who were kind enough to clip it for me.
It's great because I don't watch this program.
Great show.
Well, did you see the most recent episode?
Apparently, something very interesting.
As you know, we always talk about how Facebook is not only invested in that.
I did see this, and I didn't think a clip in it, but it's pretty funny.
Yeah, I got the clip.
So Facebook, of course, partially funded by In-Q-Tel, a CIA investment, venture capital investment firm.
We know from the Time Magazine article when Mark Zuckerberg was being interviewed on the cover of Time Magazine, the And Mueller, the director of the FBI, stuck his head around the corner and said, hey, I'm just in the building hanging out, just wanted to say hi.
Like, yeah, that's what the director of the FBI is, just hanging out at Facebook.
Yeah, it's just the funniest story.
And so the person of interest picked this up and helped us out just by basically rewriting everything you've heard on this show.
Good morning, Mr.
Reese.
If you say so.
Any croquillon in there?
If that's a donut, then yes.
So, what do we got?
Nothing much, unfortunately.
The machine kicked out a number that has one of the smallest digital footprints I've ever seen.
No photos?
Not everyone in New York has a driver's license, Mr.
Reese.
First three digits of the social suggest that Jordan Hester was born in Georgia.
I'm supposed to recognize him by his accent.
Or her, I can't even verify the gender.
Hester's living off the grid.
Off the grid?
No photos online and nothing on the social networking sites.
Never understood why people put all their information on those sites.
Used to make our job a lot easier in the CIA. Of course, that's why I created them.
You're telling me you invented online social networking, Finch?
The machine needed more information.
People's social graph, their associations.
The government had been trying to figure it out for years.
Turns out most people were happy to volunteer it.
Business wound up being quite profitable, too.
Unfortunately, Jordan Hester seems to be more cautious than most.
The machine needed more information.
We had to feed the machine.
I love it.
We even put social graph in there.
Fantastic.
Yeah.
I think there's some sick truth to it.
Duh!
This is the same show that we took a clip from recently where the CIA was running the drug business.
Yeah, these guys are great.
Whoever's writing this show, good on ya.
Hey, donate sometime, will ya?
Yeah, J.J. Abrams and Chris Nolan are the two guys.
Send us some money.
So while we're on this, a quick nine-second clip from Congressman Mike Rogers.
He is from, I think, Michigan.
And he ratcheted up the cyber attack scare tactics.
Cyber attack is on its way.
We will suffer a catastrophic cyber attack.
The clock is ticking.
The clock is ticking!
We're all going to die!
We're all going to die!
Now, I thought the clock is ticking.
Hey, just disconnect all that crap from the internet.
You don't need it.
It's not that hard.
Now, there's this guy, the director of cyber, I don't know what his official title is, the cyber counterintelligence, I guess, from the FBI. His name is Sean Henry.
And you can actually see this.
Well, of course, I have the link in the show notes, 396.nashownotes.com.
But it's prominently presented on the FBI homepage, FBI.gov.
Sean Henry is leaving for an undisclosed position at an undisclosed security company.
Salesforce.
Yeah, exactly.
Salesforce.
And he, of course, couldn't just leave the organization without a video interview.
And he was saying some stuff, man.
These FBI guys, I mean, Edgar Hoover is still all over this organization because he's insane.
Listen to what he says.
We see three primary actors.
Actors.
It's all actors, by the way.
This thing, this actors thing is bugging me.
It really is.
Because they should choose a different word.
They can barely hear it.
They are threatening primarily the financial services sector, but more and more they're expanding the scope of their attacks.
State sponsors, foreign...
Governments that are interested in filtering data including intellectual property and research and development data from major manufacturers, from government agencies, from clear defense contractors and increasingly there are terrorist groups who want to impact this country the same way they did ten years ago by flying planes into buildings and they're looking at how they can Wait a minute.
Now he's telling me that Al-Qaeda is the same guy, as he just said that, who flew airplanes into buildings.
Now they want to do cyber attacks.
Challenge the United States and others in Western society by looking at critical infrastructure and to disrupt or harm the viability of our way.
This is the worst clip you've ever played.
It's not even his jurisdiction.
Your clip.
What's wrong with my clip?
You can barely hear it and it sounds like it's out of phase.
Well, it might be something through Skype because it sounds good here.
Well, just for your enjoyment, I have another one.
And this is something I did not know.
Attention, producers in Gitmo Nation lowlands.
Attention, attention people in the Netherlands.
This should make you worried.
We've actually stationed FBI agents overseas into the police agencies in a number of countries, including Ukraine.
Romania, the Netherlands, Estonia.
These are not people that are assigned to the embassy as liaison officers.
These are actual FBI agents who are working 100% of their time in cyberspace against cyber actors.
And they are sitting side by side with their colleagues in the national police agencies of those countries.
I didn't know that.
I can't hear it!
That's very weird.
Anyway, what he said is that they have FBI cyber agents in many countries, including the Netherlands, who sit side-by-side in the police station.
The FBI! That's not their job!
CIA, yeah, maybe.
But the FBI sitting in the Netherlands?
Yeah, if you remember a couple of years ago when there was some other weird incidents, world incidents, all of a sudden they called the FBI in.
Overseas.
Yeah, it's weird.
This has been going on for a while, but I'm not absolutely sure what jurisdiction or what...
I don't even know why.
Like I said, I think you said not even the CIA, but the NSA or some people that are used to...
I mean, if you've been listening in or checking...
That kind of stuff sounds NSA to me.
It doesn't sound like anything the FBI should be involved with.
Well, they are.
And he's like, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, bitches.
Yeah.
We're everywhere in the lowlands.
So I guess, yeah, I think it was out of phase.
I'm sorry.
It sounded okay here.
I don't know what happened.
That's weird.
No, it sounded terrible.
Okay.
Well, hopefully it'll sound okay on the recording for the show.
Well, while you were doing this stuff...
Don't belittle that.
Ugh.
Don't belittle me.
Oh, I think actually if you want to get into something a little heavy duty, there's this Iranian thing that's really cranking up.
I mean, if you watch C-SPAN over the weekend, it's just like Iran, Iran, Iran, Iran, Iran.
It was unbelievable.
It just never ended.
Clippity-clop is ramping it up.
And I have a couple of clips, none of which is good.
One of them from this guy.
Please share them.
They're no good.
Let's listen to some no good clips.
I want you to play this one first because it just brings up two issues.
One, is this guy, tell me this guy doesn't sound like a dead ringer for Vivek Kundra, which makes me think that there's like a milieu where you talk like this, where you're talking about one, and then you just jump, you kind of overlap your sentence structure in a way to cover up the fact that you're not saying anything at all and you're probably not the brightest guy in the world.
This guy's at the Rand Corporation, placed separated at birth.
Yeah, is this like skip logic stuff?
Is he all over that?
He doesn't say anything dumb like that.
But it's just the pacing and style of not saying anything intelligent.
Looking at the Iranian nuclear program, it is motivated by insecurity and fear.
Fear of the United States, fear of U.S. military capabilities.
So I don't think necessarily that the threat of attacking Iran's facilities by the United States or Israel is necessarily productive.
You can argue that that threat actually may compel Iran to weaponize its program in the future.
Even, I think, sanctions, we don't entirely know if sanctions will have the effect of dissuading Iran from weaponizing.
It could get to a point, if the regime feels that it's in peril, it could see a nuclear weapons capability as a solution to its problems.
Dead Ringer.
I'll see you next time.
Dead ringer.
It's a weird style.
I had another clip from where he's dropped in some, you know, he just drops words in.
It's just that he's a total dead ringer.
But anyway, he had really nothing to say.
The guy who did actually have something to say is this professor at Georgetown, who I think lays it out, and he is like a super hawk.
This is one of these panels.
And he went on and on about, essentially told us that we're going to die.
Yeah!
So where is that?
I got it.
Being able to deter a major U.S. or Israeli military attack.
And their second goal in their own strategy documents that they publish in public is to become the most dominant state in the Middle East.
So my colleagues think that they'll stop at this kind of Japan model where you have a lot of HEU and you have the ability to enrich.
But I don't think the Japan model is going to deter a U.S. or Israeli attack.
I don't think the Japan model...
What is the Japan model?
The Japan model is to become a dominant player in your region and using nukes as a power source.
What they did with Fukushima, that's what you'd be using.
It's not some chick without pubic hair.
It could be.
Maybe that's what he's talking about.
It makes you the most dominant state in the region.
If those are their strategic goals, and I take them at their word at that, they need weapons.
So I think that, you know, they're playing it smart in terms of the way they move forward.
They might stop short for a while, but I think that eventually they're going to weaponize.
I think there's very little reason to believe that they're going to stop at this latent capability.
In terms of Israel's decision, you know, so this is something that maybe didn't come out enough in the talk, but the Israeli option and the U.S. option are very different.
The major difference being that the United States has much greater capability, has much greater ability to inflict lasting damage on Iran's nuclear program.
So I think on balance, actually, that the Israeli military option is not a good one.
And I'm not an advocate of an Israeli strike.
I am an advocate of a U.S. strike because I think of the...
Who is this guy?
You heard it, right?
Yeah, I'm an advocate of a U.S. strike.
Yeah.
Wow.
Well, screw you, douchebag.
Here we go, it's not finished, and you hear the worst part.
Greater damage that we can inflict that, on balance, the benefits outweigh the cost.
In terms of whether Israel will go, I mean, the problem they face is that their window for effective military action is rapidly closing because they have less of an ability to hit the buried in underground, buried in hardened facilities.
This guy watched too much Aaron Burnett.
He's watching.
He watched too much 24.
He's totally believing all this stuff.
Oh, yeah.
No, he's totally.
That's not nuclear bunkers.
That's where they make the Viagra, dude.
We know that by now.
The thing that's interesting is that I want you to finish this clip first.
I was looking at today's New York Times and the meme that's starting to crop out.
There's a bunch of these.
Crop up.
Crop out.
Well, you said Viagra.
So the meme that's cropping up is all over the paper, and I think this guy's a reflection of it, which is the intelligence agencies, which are in full agreement that there's nothing going on.
Right.
They are gun-shy.
Here's the meme.
You hear this out.
They're actually gun-shy to say anything's going on because they were so humiliated by what happened in Iraq, even though they never said anything was going on in Iraq, and it was all forced by Cheney, who apparently kept showing up at Langley every five minutes to goad them into saying something that they could hang their hat on.
Yeah, they...
And so they're so gun-shy that they're reticent to go out on a limb and actually say that the Iranians are maybe doing something.
They won't even go that far.
And so the meme is that the agencies are...
You can't believe anything they say, which is...
Bogus, because you could have believed them the first with the Iraqi thing, because they knew it was nothing going on, but they were goaded into saying something else, but they were right at the beginning.
And now they're saying there's nothing going on in Iran, but now we're trying to convince ourselves that they're full of crap.
They don't know what they're doing.
Let me finish this guy.
He's an idiot.
And as Iran follows through on these plans to do more and more enrichment work at Qom, Israel sees its window for effective action closing.
So I think it's very likely that in the next six months or so, if we don't get a deal and Israel isn't absolutely convinced that the United States...
We'll take action if necessary later on, which I think is going to be a very hard case to make, that Israel will take action.
So I do think that there's, you know, it's difficult to say, but, you know, to put a point estimate on it, but there's a high probability that there will be a conflict this year.
So what school does this professor attend?
Georgetown.
I'm boycotting that.
Georgetown is a horrible institution.
How can you have this guy representing you?
And now, oh, Romney, and he's the chosen one, and that guy's all about bombing.
Oh, by the way, he's also at the Council on Foreign Relations.
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
And his name is Kroenig, K-R-O-E-N-I-G, if you want to look him up on the wiki.
His name is Douchebag.
I've changed his name now, officially.
Ugh.
So they are all talking about the possibility of this, you know, all the intelligence guys, they're full of crap.
Ugh.
And the Iranians are being very careful to keep their enrichment under 20%, which is, you know, you need 90.
Well, they're enriching to 20%, which is what you'd use for making an energy-producing facility.
But they can take all that back and they can crank it up.
And all these guys, this guy, by the way, I don't have all his clips.
He was on forever.
He says that they can make a bomb in four weeks.
Four weeks from today.
I've got to get that clip, because the President can use that.
He's saying, it only takes a handful of this material, and four weeks!
That's not even two paychecks!
You'll be dead from the Iranians, the evil Iranians.
You know, the logic of the Iranians' bomb, you know, the fear is, oh, they're going to throw a missile, and the Israelis are worried about this.
They're going to throw a missile into Jerusalem or Tel Aviv, actually, would be the target.
And it would create a cloud of radioactive dust that would go, you know, into Russia.
It's not going to happen.
It's ridiculous.
I know it's not going to happen because it makes no sense.
No, it makes no sense.
You know what?
You know what makes no sense?
Because we have a savior.
And this is a YouTube clip that has now gone viral from Benjamin Fulford.
Are you familiar with his name?
Uh-uh.
Benjamin Fulford has been getting a lot of exposure in the past couple of weeks.
He is, as he says, a representative of the White Hat Dragon organization.
I think that's what it is.
The White Dragon organization.
And this is a YouTube clip from Japan.
How do you spell his name?
Benjamin Fulford.
F-U-L-F-O-R-D. And he did a press conference with two amazing guys.
and I'm going to play you his intro because we, my friend, are saved.
Fellow humans, I am Benjamin Fulford, spokesperson for the White Dragon Society.
With me here is Chodoin Daikaku.
He is the head of the world's martial arts societies, and if necessary, in an emergency, he can summon up an army of 200 million people worldwide.
That's 200 million ninjas, John.
200 million ninjas who can be summoned worldwide in a heartbeat.
Here on my right is Alexander Romanov, who is a grandmaster of an Illuminati group that claims to have started the French, Russian, and American revolutions.
As you may know, there has been a battle going on over the future of this planet.
The Western countries have been taken over by a mafia organization, all composed of members of the same clan, and they're not Jews, okay?
They worship Lucifer.
And they want a world government controlled by them, with the rest of us in perpetual debt slavery and drudgery, and with no hope of ever Ruling our own destinies.
We offer a very different vision.
We offer world peace.
We offer a hundred thousand dollars for every man, woman and child to be delivered in the form of schools, hospitals, free education, nature preserves and all the sort of things that most people want.
We all want to stop world poverty.
We want to stop environmental destruction and we all wish to have a prosperous and happy and peaceful future And that's the alternative we are offering.
Thank you.
This guy could have a little more charisma.
Let me just read you from his blog.
As predicted, the collapse of the Satan-worshipping financial mafia is accelerating.
Well, this is the guy that's been tracking all the bankers, by the way, who have been quitting and leaving, the 350 bankers.
You know, I have learned, John, in my life, never to laugh at the crazy guy.
You also shouldn't argue with him.
That's for sure.
Never laugh at him because that is typically the guy who is right on top of his game or has a billion dollars to invest.
I've seen it so many times that I don't laugh too hard.
I did have to laugh about the guy who can summon the 200 million ninjas.
This guy is fantastic.
He's wearing a bowler hat.
He's got a big stick with all kinds of ropes and snakes off of it.
He's got the sunglasses.
Not only that, he has the voice.
And he believes that Putin, who is a judo student, is the right guy to lead the world.
And his 200 million ninjas.
And listen to...
Because Benjamin, who speaks fluent Japanese, I guess, will translate.
But listen to the guy's voice.
He's everything you want in the ninja leader master.
I love Benjamin going.
Yeah, yeah, indeed. - Yes, the international associations of Bushido, Karate, Judo, Kung Fu, etc.
can muster worldwide at any given time 200 million people.
And they only fight under the code of chivalry, which is you don't attack women, children, and non-combatants, which is what the other side has been doing.
I love this guy.
Yes, yes, yes.
But you know what?
I bet you there's something to that.
I bet you there is, you know, of all the judos, jujitsus, all these guys, I bet you there is an organization that has, like, some secret network, and maybe this is the guy.
Yeah, sure.
Listen to what he says about Putin.
He believes that with Putin's help and the martial arts societies worldwide, we can cause major change.
And of course, the Illuminati who are throughout the Western intelligence agencies, military, and this is not the Italian Illuminati, this is the Gnostic Illuminati, and they want meritocracy, Rule by the people who are the best.
People who work their way up the system.
Not people who are born into it and have it given to them even though they are often not very bright.
So, it's funny, but I'm not really laughing too hard.
Well, I am.
Okay.
I knew you'd appreciate it.
Oh, yeah.
No, I like that guy's voice, too.
He's good.
He looks the part, though.
He is so awesome.
He's so awesome.
Putin.
Putin's the man.
Putin is going to save us, my friend.
Well, on top of that, you might as well play I Feel Terrible.
I feel terrible.
I just cannot sit here and concentrate on my lines because I'm so nauseous.
Who's that?
That's somebody on the world's next model or whatever the hell...
God, you watch that?
I watched that clip!
Oh my goodness.
Ah, you're horrible.
Let me, um...
Do you remember we talked about this new woman who is now the Undersecretary of State?
Her name is Sherman.
Her last name.
Sherman!
And let me see what her first name is.
You run a Wayback Machine?
Let me see.
Cindy Sherman?
No, it's not Cindy.
She's a dead ringer without the wrinkles for the IMF woman.
Wendy Sherman.
Wendy, yeah.
Look at her.
She looks just like Christine Lagarde.
Check her out.
You see the picture?
Jeez, she does.
It's like a dead ringer, right?
It's like a clone separated at birth.
Yeah, except she doesn't have all the wrinkles.
Yeah, a younger version.
Yeah, because she didn't have the Chicago Mafia sitting on her face.
No, she's also, right, that and she's been injecting lamb fetuses into her system.
Right.
She was born in 1949.
She's just as old.
So she, um...
So she's probably more wrinkly than she looks in this photo.
No, I have video from her because it was a big conference and Johnny Carson was there, which is what always makes me laugh.
Because, of course, it's not the dead Johnny Carson talk show host, but it's Johnny Carson, Johnny, who is in charge of Africa.
He's another State Department guy.
Here's Johnny.
And so this clip is a little long, two minutes, but I think very interesting to hear the hubris of the United States State Department.
This would be Clippity Clop's State Department.
Clippity Clop.
The message is clear.
Just Clippity Clop.
We got a remix.
I like it.
And listen to the hubris Of her talking about Africa and how great Africa is for America, for the world, how we're going to help them, how we're so awesome.
Not a word about the Chiners in there, by the way.
Not a single word about the Chiners.
Just have a listen.
Africa has changed substantially over the past decade.
Yeah, China built it up.
It's kicking ass.
That's why it's changed substantially over the past decade.
You weigh past time to recognize the positive developments that are occurring and the enormous potential that they present for Africa, for the United States, and for the global community.
I just get a kick out of that.
Apparently.
It's awesome for us.
Africa is a continent on the move.
They're running away from your drones.
That's why they're on the move.
It's like, hey, Kunta Kinte, this is another drone, man.
Let's run.
That's why they're on the move.
...realize some of the economic gains that have eluded it in the past.
Six...
Of the ten fastest growing countries in the world are in sub-Saharan Africa.
I think most people would find that an astonishing fact.
Fact?
Fact!
Astonishing fact.
And the IMF predicts that over the next five years, sub-Saharan Africa, that that number will reach seven of the top ten.
Are you starting to get a picture as to why we've got all these bases there and drones and all that?
I mean, it's starting to make sense, isn't it, people?
I visited two of those fastest growing countries, Angola and Nigeria, as well as Zambia, Malawi and Kenya.
She picked up a baby in Malawi.
She went to Nigeria to pick up her money.
And she went to Malawi to pick up a baby.
And it is clear that those dramatic changes that I spoke of are happening.
Yeah.
As we look at Africa...
It's important to both look at and look beyond the headlines, and I wanted to stop for a moment to note two very positive outcomes in what is sometimes a difficult space.
Okay, positive outcomes, things that are good in Africa.
For 500, Alex.
Ambassador Carson will travel soon to be part of a delegation representing the United States at the inauguration of the new president of Senegal, President Sal.
This was a peaceful transfer.
This is so nice.
We didn't have to bomb anybody.
We just went in and said, put our guy in or we'll kick your ass.
And this was so nice.
They did exactly what we told them to do at gunpoint.
Of democratic power.
And I salute President Watt for accepting the election.
What, are you in the army, lady?
You can salute them?
And stepping aside.
And it's an important milestone.
Stepping aside!
It's good, yeah.
For Africa.
Similarly, although none of us were very excited.
Now listen to what she's saying.
About the, in essence, in quotes, junta in Mali.
And see this as a setback for a long tradition of democracy in Mali.
We are also incredibly heartened by ECOWAS's efforts to mediate and to move back to democracy in Mali.
And support the people of Mali to do so, and do so quickly.
Again, a real statement about the growing strength of regional institutions in Africa.
So, if I understood her correctly, she's saying, it's too bad we had a couple people that would be killed over that, but we're pretty encouraged by it.
That's what I heard her say.
Yeah, she's obviously playing the, you know, one of the, she's the, what, the jackal or the front man.
First you got your guys go in there and say, you got to take some loans from these guys.
You got to, you know, mobsters.
Yeah, the economic men.
And then they say, yeah, we don't want to.
And then they say, well, you know, maybe you should.
Yeah, look at Molly.
And the next thing you know, somebody's dead.
Her speech, by the way, was titled, The New Decade, colon, Seizing Opportunities from a Transforming Africa.
And the ECOWAS Commission that she mentioned in there, you might want to take a look at that.
I've put it in the show notes.
ECOWAS.INT. ECOWAS is the Economic Community of West African States.
It's pretty much the European Union.
They've got the same kind of building, even, if you look at their website.
And, you know, it's got Cabo Verde, Cote d'Ivoire, Gambia, Ghana, Guinea, Guinea-Bissau, Liberia, Mali, Niger, Nigeria, Senegal, Sierra Leone.
It's our United States of Africa that is being built right there.
Well, just to get the Chiners out.
Yeah.
But we've got to remember that we still have to watch because we've got a clue that Malawi is a place to watch.
And she visited there, too, you know?
Oh, yeah.
Yes, she did.
And she went there to tell the Malawis, look, you've got to...
You've got 15 days.
You've got to work with the IMF and World Bank.
This is a quote from her.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Good, good.
You have to work with the IMF and the World Bank to put an economic plan in place so you can meet your energy needs.
Right.
They've got energy all over the place.
They're drowning in energy.
So apparently this guy, this head honcho guy, is some President Bingu Wa Mathurica.
I can't pronounce his name, obviously.
He's adamant about this, and he's creating a stir by saying, you know, we can take care of our own business, and there's this battle going on.
This guy is going to be gone.
You watch.
That's my red book.
And what's his name again?
President Bingu, B-I-N-G-W-A, whatever that comes from.
Bingu Wagon is his new name.
Muta Rica.
Bingu Wagon.
Bingu Wagon.
You're out, mofo.
We're taking all your oil, your democracy, and your babies.
And here's Madonna to smooth it all over so we feel good about it.
Yeah.
Um...
I think it was Robert Leather, one of our producers, who sent me this great clip from the BBC. Just let's stay in Africa for a second.
Let's move up north.
I'm going to send you this article.
Yeah, please do.
I want to put it in the show notes.
Thank you.
Alex Crawford is a reporter for, I think, Sky.
And she was the one who did the interview.
Do you recall the crazy guy who had Gaddafi's hat?
Oh yeah.
Remember that?
Yeah, the hat.
There was another guy with the gold gun.
Is that the same guy?
No, I think he had the gold chain in the hat.
So she's on the BBC being interviewed about this, the story of her life.
And this just shows you, because I think we're doing, we're trying to research, we read legislation, we do the work.
Yeah.
We try to bring you some news, try to clarify it so you understand at least what's going on.
We just dissected this Sherman woman, what she's doing, and she's saying it.
It's very clear.
I mean, they kind of leave things out.
They subvert information.
But you can pull it out.
You can pull the truth out.
Right.
So this woman is a reporter.
She's so dumb.
When you hear her explain how she fell into this story, it's so obvious that the whole thing was fake, this guy with Gaddafi's hat.
This will crack you up.
Don't mind the...
You'll find my way across the town to the port.
Explain to us about the title, Colonel Gaddafi's hat.
That's quite a significant hat in the whole story, isn't it?
When we went back...
In August, when Tripoli finally was reclaimed by the rebels, we went into the compound as they were breaking through.
And in amongst this absolute chaos, there were hundreds of people running all over the place, rampaging through their houses, pillaging and firing guns all over the place.
Out of this mayhem walks this young man wearing a rather splendid sort of hat.
Yeah, it was all very elaborate and so on.
And he was like a sort of figure, you know, you sort of think, am I imagining this?
Because he walked out of smoke and sort of came towards us, brandishing.
Now, he walked out of smoke, like out of nowhere, John.
He's out of smoke.
Now, wait, there's more.
I think of one of his fly swatters and wearing this big gold necklace around his Around his neck.
And I thought, I've got to interview this guy.
And unbelievably, he spoke perfect English.
Unbelievably.
I couldn't believe my luck.
He walked out of smoke and he had a hat.
And he spoke perfect English.
It's unbelievable.
I didn't question this at all.
And he just walked up and I said, well, where did you get the hat?
And he said, I've just been into...
And he couldn't even believe it.
He said, oh my God, I've just been into Colonel Gaddafi's bedroom and I've taken his hat.
And he delivered this, what I thought was this amazing sort of speech about now's the time for our country to...
And he had a hospital!
Speech prepared!
An amazing speech!
He walked out of the smoke.
He spoke English.
He had a speech prepared.
Come together, we've got to stop all the fighting.
It was like this sort of Churchillian speech in the middle of this absolute chaos.
How could it be possible?
I don't understand!
And he was a real character.
A fantastic piece of, I mean, a very well-deserved luck after what you'd been through to find that the man who had looted the colonel's hat and fly swat and gold chain spoke good English.
I know!
Fantastic moment.
It was a whole series of very fortunate or unfortunate events.
Not for a second!
So, do you think it's possible that this was bullcrap?
How unbelievable.
I can just imagine some agent.
There was a bunch of guys.
They showed this when they were having this first ride.
These guys that were dressed kind of like in Western gear of some sort, but they were obviously Western Europeans.
And I can just imagine a couple that are orchestrating this thing.
Oh, see her?
Yeah, she's the stupidest BBC reporter in the world.
She'll believe anything.
Oh, then we should send Bill over here with the hat and see if he can run the thing on her.
Well, there's a tip-off in here.
I'll bet you five bucks she bites hook, line, and sinker.
I'm on for that bet.
There's something you missed in here, though.
And let me see if I can roll it back to that piece.
Oh, my God.
I've just been into Colonel Gaddafi's bedroom.
He said, oh, my God?
Really?
The guy in Libya?
Yeah, really.
He said, oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
He came out and said, OMG. LOL. LOL. OMG. I've got the mofo's hat.
So if this...
So that's what passes as news coverage.
That's what passes as news.
Idiot reporters that believe anything.
That's exactly right.
Well, you know, here's an interesting clip from the Afghanistan killings, which confirms at least one of the rumors going around.
And this is a reporter from Australia who is actually a female.
That was why we can't seem to get a hold of any of the people that know anything about the killings that took place by that maniac.
By the whole team with the helicopters.
Roaming around Afghanistan having no problem getting access here and there, but she's reporting just what she sees and she's not, you know, getting all giddy about it.
Pray that.
They're desperate for their story to come out.
And what did they tell you?
What were some of the specifics of what they told you happened that night?
There were some horrific accounts, Erin.
I spoke to one woman who told me how her husband had been shot in the head and how she dragged him into her house and she had his brain in her hands.
You know, deeply traumatic sort of stories that they were telling me.
She also then told me that there were 15 to 20 Americans standing in her yard, ushering her to get back inside her house.
These are difficult, they're intense claims that she's making.
They don't really match up to some of the other claims that some of the children told me.
They told me that one American entered their home and one American shot at their family members.
So there are a lot of disparities in the stories.
It's difficult to know who saw what and when.
Yeah, let's just ixnay on the latoon pay and the helicopter A that was lying fae.
Your pig that sucks.
Yeah, but it's like...
Yeah, because it didn't match up with the kids who were traumatized and shot up.
Ugh...
And now they're saying, oh, the guy had a malaria vaccine and that can cause you to go psycho.
Have you heard of this?
There's something very, very suspicious about this whole situation.
Well, yeah, it's a cover-up, obviously.
Yeah, it's a cover-up, obviously, but of what?
Was it an assassination of some specific people or some person?
Yeah.
What was the deal?
Yeah, who cares?
I think there's something very strange about this whole situation.
You think?
Do you think?
Yeah, there's no reporting, John.
And of course, if we were there, we'd get the real news, wouldn't we?
You and me, together.
I'm going to show myself a little bit, don't I? Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
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Oh my Allah.
That was an odd hook.
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No knights?
No knights.
Oh man, I got the sword out.
Well, shove it back in.
Get rid of it.
So there was something.
I've been saving this.
There was something quite interesting that caught my eye.
A report that came out from the CDC that was all over the news, interspersed in between all of the bull crap about stirring up racism in America.
I don't know if you've seen this report, John.
The CDC released a report that stated that 1 in 88 children in the United States of Gitmo Nation has autism.
Yeah.
And so, of course, I'm like, wow, let me dive into this.
And so I have the report.
In fact, it's under vaccines, obviously.
There's an entire listing in the show notes, 396 on anyshownotes.com, which includes the actual CDC report.
And I noticed something new.
And I have some data to back it up.
They've changed the definition of this disease from autism to the autism spectrum disorder.
And this is very significant.
But first, let me bring you the co-chair of the Autism Subcommittee.
And she has a nice little video talking about this new survey, which, by the way, everyone says we're not sure whether more children have autism spectrum disorder or we just have better ways of researching and we're finding more of them.
So it's a little bit of an unfair report to say there's more kids than ever that have autism because it may just be because all of a sudden their research improves somehow and they know what it is.
Let's just listen to her for a second to set us all up.
Physicians and primary care providers need to be comfortable in reassuring parents that this is not due to vaccination practice.
Oh, right.
I'm sorry.
I forgot to mention, none of this, of course, is due to vaccination practice, and physicians need to be comfortable saying this.
And to help them identify resources in their communities for effective treatment and for the support that they need.
So, effective treatment.
Now, these things are catching my eye.
Let's listen to another little bit of her about screening and effective treatment.
For pediatricians and the primary care providers providing a medical home, it's really very important to pay attention to the Academy of Pediatric Screening Recommendations to do a formal screening evaluation for autism at 18 and 24 months of age.
When children Fail screening and a referred for a second, more expert diagnosis, either to a developmental and behavioral pediatrician, a child neurologist, or a child psychiatrist, it's really very important that standard diagnostic criteria are used so that we can best serve children, make the most accurate diagnoses, and refer children for effective treatment.
Okay, so a couple things here.
I have two analyses of this, and I'll give you the most likely one first, which is just unbelievable.
So what you're hearing her say is we have to have, across the board, everyone has to screen for autism in the exact same way.
Now, I look at the definition of autism, and And this is as defined by the Autism Society of America.
I quote, and she just said it actually, But you can't do a CAT scan.
You can't take blood.
This is as determined by someone who will sit with your child, typically between 18 and 24 months.
And here are some of the characteristics they will be looking at.
And notice, by the way, that you can fail the autism screening, which I thought was an astounding use of the word.
If you fail, then we have to move over to effective treatment, which I'll get to in a moment.
So here are some of the things that are most commonly found characteristics of autism.
And autism, by the way, there's something real going on here.
I'm not making light of this.
But we know it's not vaccines.
That's out of the question.
The child is unable to coo by 12 months.
The child does not point or gesture by 12 months, does not say single words by 16 months, does not say two or more words by 24 months, and has lost some of social skills or language abilities.
Other characteristics include no fear of danger, over or under sensitivity to pain, may avoid eye contact with you, may prefer to be by him or herself.
This is me, by the way.
Has difficulty expressing what they want or need.
They may try to use gestures.
May echo words or phrases.
They can't point?
Can't point.
Okay, go on.
I'm sorry.
It just doesn't make sense.
May spin him or herself or objects.
That's kind of cool.
Good place in the 60s.
Stop spinning.
So this sounds like a number of different things.
Yeah, it does.
Well, this is very important because this boils down to the writing at this very moment of the DSM-5.
And the DSM-5 is...
So we're currently at number four.
DSM-5 is the...
It's the book.
It's the Bible on mental disorders.
And they have changed something.
As I said earlier, they have changed something.
And they are now including...
All other symptoms, such as Asperger's, obsessive-compulsive disorder, depression, all these different symptoms, and they're putting it all into the autistic spectrum diagnosis.
And this is very important.
This comes out in the new year.
Because of this, The drug companies will now be able to market drugs, and this comes down to the effective treatment, they'll be able to market drugs based upon symptoms of autism spectrum disorder.
So, for instance, we already have this with Alzheimer's.
So with Alzheimer's, you can say, well, you know, one of the symptoms of Alzheimer's is you can't tie your shoelaces.
So we have a drug for tying your shoelaces.
So even though you may not really have autism necessarily, you may have one of the symptoms, which we already have a drug for, that we can now include as a drug for autism.
Are you with me?
Yeah.
So, some of the newer anti-psychotic medications, which so far have been prescribed, what do you call it, not off-book, off-label, are...
Explain what off-label is to people that don't know.
Off-label means it was approved by the FDA, the Food and Drug Administration, for treatment of one particular symptom of something, and they'll say, but you can use this instead of Viagra because it also works for that.
Or, you know, if you have Asperger's, then this antidepressant, you can use that for that.
It's not officially approved for, but you can use it off-label for that.
So this will now enable the drug companies to prescribe Risperdon, Zyprexa, and Geodon for autistic spectrum disorder.
And wouldn't you know that Geodon has gone generic, right?
That Zyprexa has gone generic.
So my obvious conclusion is that this is taking into account that they're not sure if actually autism and ASD has increased or they just have better research methods.
That this is a horrible, horrible way to get their out-of-patent drugs into the system.
With the addition that the American Academy of Pediatrics is now recommending autism screening for all children between 18 months and 2 years old.
So you have a very good chance that the doctor is going to say, kid can't point.
Kids spinning.
Get them on some drugs.
And these drugs are antidepressants.
Kids spinning.
Put them on drugs.
They're psychotic drugs.
They're psychotropic.
They're antipsychotics.
That's really make them nuts.
It's really, really an outrage.
That's a total outrage.
It's ridiculous what's going on.
And I think there's also something wrong with the patent system because the idea, of course, is to get a patent extension for this new use.
And so this stuff stays kind of in patent, which is bullcrap.
When something goes generic, for whatever reason, it's an invention that was used for something specific.
But once that molecule is invented and the process for making it, which is part of the patent usually, that gets past the date where it goes out of patent.
It's not a patent.
I don't care what else it could be used for.
It could be used as a diet pill or an upper or something to relieve stomach aches.
Who cares?
But you see, the thing is, they can say...
Well, because your kid falls within the autistic spectrum disorder now, which includes all these other symptoms, they can say, well, you need some antidepressant.
18 months, John!
They're going to put 18-month children on antidepressants.
Yeah, I wonder what that's going to do for the general population when these people get older.
Now, so that is obviously what is happening.
I have a little different opinion, which may sound a little crackpot-y, but...
Actually, let me play the...
This is very interesting.
This was a CNN autism report.
And right at the beginning, it starts off...
With this kid who has autism, and he's on his iPad.
And you've got to see the video.
And he's rolling through this thing.
He's incredibly fast.
He's like Rain Man on the iPad.
And it's also a little iPad promotion in there.
But he's just like, I can't use my iPad as effectively and quickly as this kid.
And he's doing stuff.
And just listen to all the different words.
The experts, by the way, who pop up in this thing are all from an autism clinic, commercial clinic, and it's Sanjay Gupta, so you know something's up, but just listen to it.
Frankie Sanders is a ninth grader who loves to play chess on his iPad and is trying to pass the test for his driver's permit.
Frankie also has autism.
As you may know, that's a neurodevelopmental disorder that affects language, behavior, and social skills.
Boys make up the vast majority of cases.
What you may not know is that 12 years ago, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention began to estimate the total number of cases in the United States.
They based it on a count of 8-year-old children with autism in select communities.
If you look back in the years 2000 and 2002, it was about one child in 150 with autism.
Two years later, one in 125.
Then, one in 110.
And now the latest report.
As of 2008, the last time an estimate was performed, one in 88 children has autism.
That's a 78% increase just over the last decade.
And the question on a lot of people's minds is why.
How much of that increase is a result of better tracking, and how much of it is a result of an actual increase, we still don't know.
Researchers have discovered many genes linked to autism, but in most cases, genes are only one part of the equation.
And genes alone wouldn't change that fast in just ten years.
There is something else that triggers the problem.
We're talking about infections, we're talking about social conditions, and we're talking about exposures to toxicants, things in the environment.
Researchers are still looking for answers, but what they do know is that diagnosing children early is critical, as was the case with Frankie Sanders.
Frankie was diagnosed when he was 15 months old.
He immediately began to get speech therapy and occupational therapy and physical therapy.
He was placed in a group with kids who were typically developing.
All that hard work is paying off.
Frankie is now 15.
He attends a regular high school and plays on the football team.
We can diagnose autism at two years of age almost always, by 90% of the children, by three certainly.
And we actually can diagnose it at 18 months in many children.
But according to this new report, most cases are diagnosed late, after age 2 or 3.
That's when therapy has been shown to help the most, especially with speech and communication.
Parents need to be aware of their children and how their children are interacting.
And then, they need to seek help.
If you as a parent are concerned about your child, talk to your doctor, talk to your school system to see if they should be assessed, get them assessed.
This is small.
This is big.
Keep going.
Dr.
Sanjay Gupta, CNN. So there's Sanjay Gupta pushing you, pushing you as a parent to, hey, my kid's weird, the kid's spinning, doing whatever.
I love the spinning thing.
Yeah.
And what they've taken, they've taken this poor boy and they forced him into football, which I think is wrong.
Here's what I believe, John.
Why'd you force him into football?
Yeah, no, the physical shit.
Make him code.
Look, We, so, you know, bringing up the vaccine thing, which, interestingly, was not in the report because, of course, you know, that's all fake.
That's all false.
That's not happening.
That's not true.
It can't be anything in the vaccines.
By the way, you should have your child screened for autism when they're 18 months after they've received their first 20 vaccinations.
That would be a good time to go and check and see if they've developed autism.
But I'm not a medical expert, and that's, you know, oh, you're anti-vaxxer, whatever.
I think we are seeing evolution and I really believe that the children who are being born now are an evolved species, are incredibly smart, have something beyond our comprehension and we need to drug the shit out of them because we can't have these smart kids running around.
I really think there's something going on here.
Well, that's an interesting crackpotty idea.
Now, let me mention something that's going around, a little piece of information.
I think it's called Flynn's Axiom or something like that, is that every generation, and there's a punchline to this, every generation that comes along, it has actually technically a higher IQ than the generation that preceded it.
Yes, of course.
That's just a common thing.
Yes, evolution.
Now, and it obviously has something to do with it.
I do have to mention one little gotcha, which is a...
And this has always been true until...
Right now, when only in one area, in Gitmo Nation East, the UK, the IQ for the first time, that's the only, the US is still going up, went down.
Really?
Yeah.
Whose report is that?
Isn't that interesting?
I'm working on getting the documentation for that.
JC was telling me about it.
Really?
Yeah.
Isn't that weird?
They got dumber?
Aren't you glad you left?
Well, no, it's too late for me.
But, you know, I'm really thinking that something else is going on here because they can't find it.
The geniuses can't find it.
So either they're all really, really horrible people and they just want to help sell more antidepressant crap, which I'm not putting beyond the realm of possibility.
I'm really not.
Well, I think there's a...
I mean, when the public relations agencies get their act together, they can really do a lot of damage.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, someone really went out on this one, the CDC website.
It's just all about this and autism.
But it's really...
It's get your kids screened.
Gotta get them screened.
So, to me, it's like...
And everybody wins on the side of evil.
It's like, hey, we get to sell them drugs and we get to...
Suppress them into submission and be a slave our way.
You don't get to choose your hamburger.
We're going to put you on these drugs and you're going to play football, son!
And it's disturbing to me, and I would love to hear from, I know I'm sure, just looking at these percentages, we must have a lot of parents who have kids who are on the spectrum, as it's called.
I've read several books on the topic.
Some of the authors that I interview for the big book show, they have kids with autism and write books about it, and it's called On the Spectrum.
And most of them don't believe the vaccine story.
But I know parents with autistic kids, and yeah, they spin a lot, but they're very entertaining.
No, I mean it, but they're not all kids on the spectrum.
Bill Gates has a form of autism.
He would be probably drugged today.
He probably is drugged.
Bill Gates, I don't think so.
But I just don't think drugging is the answer.
No, drugging is not the answer.
By the way, I've got the link.
I'll send it to you for the IQ thing.
It showed up in Prospect magazine out of the UK, actually.
It says average IQ is falling in Britain and beyond.
I guess there's a few other places too.
Intelligence quotients have written in developed nations for almost a century.
The phenomenon called the Flynn effect was first identified in 1984 in the United States.
But apparently it's now reversing in certain parts of the world.
But Britain has found the reversal.
It's also Norway and Denmark are the other two.
And a lot of people are saying, well, it's because of all the toxins and mothers are drinking fluoride and all of that.
I'm just not buying it.
About the autism?
Yeah.
I don't know.
Perhaps.
Well, we don't know.
Well, the thing is, they don't know, and the way they test is like, oh, the kid's spinning.
They don't care.
All they're going to do is they're going to give the kids drugs.
It's all they're looking for, an excuse.
I'm sorry.
I totally buy into the bad aspect of it.
Well, that's okay.
I mean, I do too, but I have hope.
I have hope that these are really just special children who are geniuses and they're going to, you know, if I had to put my money on the 200 million ninjas or the autism kids, give me the autism kids any day.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, well, you're the one that brought the 200 million ninjas up.
The way they like to do these, you know, I like the way they redefine things over and over, and it reminds me of something I just read.
Actually, it was read, I picked up, there's a book by Turvey, people might want to look at, called Criminal Profiling.
Another book for the book club.
Witches were part of the early days of profiling, and of course you're profiling these kids to assume autism.
I want to read...
From the 1400s, how you would find and determine if someone was a witch, I think is quite amusing.
Does it have to do with spinning?
No.
Well, maybe.
But I think, think about this for a while, and since we're wrapping up the show, about what is a witch.
Ready?
Yeah.
Just the main, main characteristics.
And then I have secondary characteristics, which are even more interesting.
They have a spot or scar or birthmark, sometimes on the genitals and sometimes invisible, To the Inquisitor's eye.
They live alone.
They keep pets.
Oh no!
Cats.
Uh huh.
They suffer symptoms of mental illness, auditory or visual hallucinations.
They cultivate medicinal herbs.
No!
They have no children.
Now this is the way they were used to get rid of spinsters.
And now here's specific descriptions.
Witches have the power to make men impotent and unable to copulate.
By looking at him?
You're getting a picture here?
Yeah.
Hold on a second.
The science is in!
Witches use spells, images, and charms.
Oh, my lucky charms!
And witches cannot bear children.
So this was all official.
This is the same kind of thing.
That was DSM-1.
This is all mumbo-jumbo bullcrap used to propagate some sort of an agenda.
Yeah.
In this case, it was to get rid of the homely girls that wouldn't screw anybody, I guess, in the town.
So this is nothing new.
Well, but I'm saddened because I see these parents, you know, and John, you're a parent, you know, if your kid's spinning around and the doctor says...
I love that picture, by the way.
Spinning on his head like a breakdancer.
And the doctor says, oh my god, your kid is on the spectrum.
But, you know, we have an effective cure.
Effective cure.
I'm going to teach him how to play football and put him on some drugs.
The football thing's a little sick.
Yeah, that's exactly what I mean.
He doesn't want to play football.
Maybe he likes to spin.
Maybe he's going to become a great dancer.
A great spinner.
Exactly.
Thank you.
Now you're talking my language.
I think that another term is indigo children.
Star children, indigo children.
Everywhere but the UK. Well, I wonder if autism is not as high, if autism is different in the UK. They're just going into retardation.
It's a whole different problem.
Anyway, that's your pharmaceutical industry, everybody.
Doping you up.
So, do with it as you wish.
All we do here is just try to pull it all apart and show you what's going on.
There's something else that should be mentioned since we're talking about medical stuff.
There was a real interesting article that ran around Nature and then I guess was re-reported by Reuters, which just really makes you wonder about any of this stuff.
I'll just read a quote.
By the way, during a decade as head of global cancer research at Amgen, Glenn Begley, you know about this?
No.
I know Amgen.
53 landmark publications and top journals from reputable labs.
It turns out they can't reproduce any of these cancer things.
Because it turned out that the people that were investing, you know, taking money from people to donate to cancer research would only give money if you showed something positive.
So if you, like, worked your ass off for three years on a cancer study and you found out nothing, you'd get no money.
Yeah, of course.
So we've got to have the cure.
So all these reports, so apparently 53 landmark reports are all bogus.
Yeah.
Oh, really?
53?
Do we have a list?
Yeah, he does have a list.
Jeez.
Well, actually, of the 53, 47 couldn't be replicated.
So in other words, most of them are bogus.
And it was just because of the money.
This is the problem that we have, just generally speaking, a completely corrupt system that can't even get us, you know, real information.
And we won't admit it.
Somebody won't find a report that doesn't come up with something positive.
They have to feel good about their, you know, their philanthropy.
Well, I'll tell you, man, we've got to be so careful.
There was another report that came out.
First of all, the IPCC came out with a new report.
Unbelievable.
Evidence suggests that climate change has led to extreme weather conditions, such as heat waves, record high temperatures, and in many regions, heavy precipitation.
This is the new IPCC Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report.
Can you stop for a minute?
I have to ask a question.
Isn't climate and weather two different things?
Yeah, well this is why we have to have an official report to put that back in because...
Oh, climate is weather now?
Climate is weather, correct.
Oh, they've changed it.
Yes, climate is weather.
You've got it.
But then I ran across this...
A news release from the University of Oregon.
And this woman is Kari Marie Norgard, professor of sociology and environmental studies at the University of O. And she has put out a paper which is...
The science is in!
Fact.
Resistance at individual and societal levels must be recognized and treated before real action can be taken to effectively address threats facing the planet from human-caused contributions to climate change.
You know what that means, don't you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Curry, Dvorak, time for your pill.
Time for your pill.
We can't have anybody saying anything.
You must obey.
You must obey.
But not just that.
Hit it.
Hit it.
You must obey.
I'm looking for it.
I don't know where it is.
I always miss that one.
I'm lame.
Hey.
But we have to be treated.
That's the worst part.
We have to be treated.
Treated means drugs, my friend.
We will obey.
Well, you know, I think, you know, Clinton, by the way, I think is being treated because he now, play the clip, he now thinks he's a woman.
What?
Hillary or Bill?
Bill!
No.
How can women like me, who want to help women in Haiti and other places across the world, actually do that?
All right, all right.
You get it, my friend.
Clip of the day.
What an idiot.
And he's also at his big meeting at the universities.
He's just sitting there.
The guy looks terrible, by the way.
Play the other one, the other Clinton infects others clip.
Oh, God.
What do you make of this?
But wait, there's more.
Young people in universities and colleges around the country who do this.
In other words, instead of doing what I do, which is try to bring everybody, many people as we can here every year, and get them to go home and infect others.
That's insane.
In a positive way.
Was this his thing with Jon Stewart?
No, no.
This is the Clinton initiative.
He has a university meeting every year.
Go home and infect somebody, bitches!
He's just out of it.
I don't think I can compete with that.
Oh, wow.
Dude, he needs help.
He needs help.
Well, I do have Senator Saxby Shambliss from Georgia.
And he was on Morning Douche with Milika Brzezinski, whatever her name is, and Joe Scabbard.
Scabbard.
Scabbard.
And he said something that blew me away about what has changed the partisanship of politics.
You've got a kick out of this.
I think it still works the way the framers intended for it to work, particularly compared to the House.
But the fact of the matter is, the partisanship has gotten worse and worse every year that I've been there.
And, you know, you don't have folks arguing with each other and then going outside and having a drink together like you used to hear about, and we still hear the stories about.
Yeah.
I mean, so it's worse.
I mean, we always heard that when Newt came to power, when we came in town, that that was the great divide.
But it's worse than it was even in the 90s when we were in the house.
Yeah, I don't think there's any question about what is worse.
And I think one thing that's made it that way is C-SPAN, very honestly.
All 80 people watching!
Wow.
There's a little more to it.
You got folks on TV, and now they, instead of doing political commercials, they rant and rave during dinner time on the East Coast, and then at 9 o'clock you see the West Coast guys up there.
Does he really think?
Is he...
No, I know the answer.
Yes, he's insane.
Nobody watches C-SPAN but us.
Do you think his constituents watch C-SPAN? And everybody in the household, I might add, moans and groans about it.
Are you watching ugly people again?
You're not watching that crap again.
Are you watching ugly people again?
Yeah, exactly.
Well, of course.
I have to, like, tape a lot of this stuff and then watch it in my, you know, my...
Well, I have nobody else's...
Yeah, I've got it on in the studio, and it's continuously recording, so I can spin something back if I see it.
But most of the time, it is very handy, I have to say, the C-SPAN website.
You can search the...
Yeah, the C-SPAN website's great.
Yeah, well, the video player sucks balls, but you can search the transcripts.
Those are pretty good, so you can just go and zip in and find something.
And also, sometimes, it stops.
Like you're an hour and 20 minutes into it, and it stops.
They have some technical issues, and I wish they would have MP3 files that you could just download.
They do, but you have to pay for them.
You can buy anything they have, but it costs like 20 bucks.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
They should just have them available.
Yeah, well.
Duh.
Nah, bastards.
Otherwise, you have to record it and then clip it.
Yeah.
It's like just...
Yeah, yeah.
Well, let that be our problem.
Because that's what we do.
So you don't have to.
That's right.
Are you doing Twitch today?
Yeah, I am.
Tell Leo to get me on one of these days.
I do that all constantly, and he says, no problem.
Okay.
I'll play for the Three Stooges movie.
Yes, just a little one.
Okay, well, promote the show, will you?
Absolutely.
Enough promoting that X3 thing.
I'm promoting the show.
I promote the show.
Yeah, but promote it by No Agenda Show.
Noagendashow.com.
Say MittRomneySucks.org.
We all get a kick out of it.
Yeah, Leo would like that, MittRomneySucks.org.
Yeah, do that.
That's funny.
I just mention it, and he'll type it in, and then you'll go, ah, ha, ha.
And I can say April Fool's.
Let me just make sure it's actually working.
MittRomneySucks.org.
Yeah, make sure it jumps.
Oh, no, it's RomneySucks.org, dude.
Sorry.
Is it RomneySucks?
Yeah, not Mitt.
RomneySucks.org.
RomneySucks.
Yeah, it's working.
RomneySucks.org.
Okay, yeah, I'll throw that in.
He said, yeah, we got a new, we're starting a new thing where I've turned back to be, this will be my April Fool's gang.
I'm going to become a Democrat.
I'm not an independent anymore.
And we got this new thing, romneysucks.org, which is up now.
And then he'll type it in.
This is a great new website we've got.
And then he'll type it in.
Go!
He'll feel bad about it.
Good.
I'm staying awake.
I'm not going to take a nap.
Excellent.
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