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362: Drone Journalism

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	Eh, just called Jenny.
	Adam Curry.
	John C. Devorak.
	It's Sunday, December 4th, 2011.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 362.
	This is no agenda.
	Suspended in mid-air here at Camp Movo in Austin, Texas, the capital of the Lone Star State in the morning, everybody.
	I'm the ever-belligerent Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where we're keeping an eye on Herman Cain.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We are not, I repeat, not being distracted by Sperm and Herman.
	So I do only have one clip about Sperm and Herman.
	How come no one has used that but us?
	I don't understand.
	It's such a good one.
	It is a good one.
	I've got this clip.
	I cracked up when I heard it.
	Tell me if you can spot the gaffe.
	In this clip.
	...that suggests dire financial straight.
	And so, we don't have any evidence yet, but I assure you, we are going to get to the bottom of it.
	I've already started that process, and when we come back, it's not going to be based upon rumors.
	It's not going to be based upon he said, she said.
	It's going to be based upon factual information that we are going to be able to present in order to show that I had not done many of the things that I've been accused of.
	Many?
	I mean, the things?
	Not all, just many.
	I mean, listen, there's going to be many...
	The distraction of the week on no agenda.
	Actually, I beg to differ.
	I don't think it's much of a distraction.
	It's a total distraction.
	Let me see.
	Who cares?
	Nobody's paying any attention to it.
	What was going on?
	Let me think.
	Oh, yeah, the military can lock you up for being a grumpy old man.
	Do you think that is anything important to look at?
	It's a distraction of the week.
	Oh, my goodness.
	You know, I will say, though, here in Austin, it's the talk of the town.
	What is?
	S1867. Oh, yeah.
	Everyone's talking about it.
	It's really interesting.
	We had dinner at the neighbor's last night.
	We were invited over to meet some of the neighborhood.
	You had dinners, the neighbors, over to the house?
	No, no.
	The neighbors had us over to their house.
	Oh, okay.
	They did exactly what never happened in Los Angeles.
	They knocked on the door the other day.
	Hi!
	We're Maggie and Bruce.
	We're the neighbors.
	Hey, how you doing?
	It was really nice.
	I said, oh, come on over.
	We'll invite some of the other neighbors over.
	And they cook for us.
	Yeah, it was great.
	But, of course, now I'm really conscious because they're listening over there.
	And now you have to invite them over.
	Of course.
	You have to have a housewarming party.
	That's what it's called.
	I know.
	I know.
	We've got to do that.
	And that's when they'll all come over.
	You'll get, I don't know how many, six, eight, ten people.
	They'll all come over.
	One of them, of course, will be working for an agency and there'll be a bug planted.
	Of course.
	As one does.
	I would sweep the house afterwards just to make sure.
	But you better get somebody who knows what he's doing nowadays.
	It's just...
	Well, you know, there's this really ominous looking building not far from us, which is the 3M headquarters in Austin.
	And they've got this huge antenna on the roof, like a ham radio, like, you know, massive...
	A dish or a stick?
	No, no, directional, what do you call it?
	No, not a dish.
	An old school pylon mast with the huge antenna that has the dipoles sticking out so heavy that they're bending down.
	They probably just sold that space to a bunch of cellular carriers.
	Are you sure they're not sold?
	No, no, no.
	You know what they make there?
	RFID tracking equipment.
	Oh.
	It says it right there on the website.
	And the whole place is like, no trespassing, 3M campus only, you know, cameras everywhere.
	You know, that is a total spook facility.
	Get a tour.
	Hey, hi.
	Hi, I'm Adam Clark.
	I'd like a tour of your facility just to check stuff out, see what's going on.
	Yeah, that'll go over well.
	Anyway, so now I'm real self-conscious because they're listening.
	We went over and we're drinking some wine there while Maggie's cooking.
	I can't even say anything about her now.
	Never introduce yourself to the show to the neighbors.
	Smoking hot.
	These guys are like nuts.
	What do they think they're doing?
	You know what she really liked?
	She said, I really had to laugh about you just getting by.
	We did that whole thing with the McLaughlin group when we were talking about the American Dream.
	Yeah, they're just getting by.
	Yeah, she even asked her kids, like, kids, what is the American dream?
	You know, just to see if they, just to check them, right?
	See if they're okay.
	They're doing all right here.
	Anyway.
	And what was the results?
	It was good, you know, like freedom.
	You know, they're 12 and 14, so freedom was one.
	You know, family was part of the American dream.
	It was nice.
	You know, at no point did any of them say, I just want to get by.
	Yeah, well, that meme probably will never really penetrate Texas.
	No, I don't think so.
	I don't think so.
	Well, I am, of course, Nostradamus.
	Yeah, no sooner had I predicted that we needed to move to Texas to scale back expenses than donations drop off a cliff.
	I knew they did.
	We essentially have no...
	This is the second time in the history of the show that we have no executive producers.
	We have to credit ourselves.
	So all the people who could have snuck in with a cheap executive producer...
	Or show 362, which actually is a really nice number.
	It's a great number.
	362, you know, it's all kind of divisible.
	Nothing.
	It's weird.
	Good job, John, on the show.
	Well, I suppose the last show must have really sucked.
	This is what John does, and he'll send me an email and say, donations are off the cliff, we're dead, we must have really sucked or been boring or whatever.
	And I have a theory, actually.
	I have a theory.
	I think that the minute we started talking about food and wine again, it's what everyone always wants, right?
	They always say, oh, I miss the food and wine talk.
	And then we bring that back and we talk about it a little bit since Thanksgiving.
	Boom.
	Well, the problem with that theory is the show before is when we really talked about food and wine.
	No, we talked...
	And we've been talking about single malt scotch and all that.
	Yeah, yeah, this is bad.
	So here's what I'd like to do.
	I'd like to do it again, and if donations are down again next week, then we'll never talk about food and wine again.
	There's nothing about food and wine to talk about this.
	Yeah, there is.
	I do.
	I have something to talk about.
	Okay, go.
	So, we went to Siena Ristorante.
	Do you haven't been to Bee Cave yet, though?
	I've been down to Bee Cave, sure I have.
	There's a lot of restaurants there.
	No, the Bee Cave Barbecue.
	No, no, no.
	Haven't been there yet.
	But we went to Siena Ristorante, which is apparently, and we thought it was an outstanding Italian restaurant.
	And the prices here are just so great.
	Everything's so inexpensive, certainly comparatively speaking.
	According to Wine Spectator, one of the top ten wine lists in the country.
	Did you know that?
	Yeah.
	Or do you not put a lot of value on Wine Spectator?
	I like the Wine Spectator, but they're easily bamboozled.
	And I'll give an example.
	This will be my story.
	I'm in Athens at some event.
	Was this the stone-throwing event you were at?
	This was a while back.
	And so we went to this restaurant, which was the number one restaurant in the entire country for the wine list, according to the Wine Spectator.
	It had a huge wine that was the size of the Manhattan phone book, and I had boned up on the various obscure Greek wines that I wanted to check out.
	And so we go into there, and I had all the cherries picked out, and I opened the wine and said, there it is, we'll have a bottle of this.
	And the guy goes out, comes back, he says, I'm sorry, sir, there's only one bottle left.
	So?
	I said, yeah.
	He says, well, there's only one bottle left.
	You can't have it.
	What?
	So I picked another one.
	Same thing.
	Only one bottle left.
	Well, what is that all about?
	Wait a minute.
	I'm getting there.
	And then another one.
	And so finally he says, you can't have another one because this is the second to the last bottle and there will only be one bottle left.
	And I realized what they were doing is they weren't selling these wines when they got the one bottle so they could have this huge bogus wine list.
	Bogative.
	And the...
	It was bogative.
	The point is, is that the Wine Spectator was, you know, obviously found some...
	Oh, look at the size of this wine.
	The wine list is bullcrap.
	So I've always been very upset about it.
	Well, we splurged...
	One bottle left.
	We splurged to celebrate being in Austin, and we had a bottle of 2004 Barolo.
	Okay.
	And it was outstanding.
	Who's Barolo?
	I don't know.
	I brought the cork just so I could tell you about it.
	I don't know anything.
	Damilano Barolo?
	Does that mean anything to you?
	I've never had it.
	Oh, okay.
	It was really good.
	2004 Barolo.
	It was really nice.
	Good.
	Congratulations.
	I had a bottle of Beaujolais over the weekend.
	I thought you might actually know it and say, oh yeah, this is a good wine.
	I don't know it.
	There's a lot of Barolas on there.
	Slide whistle me down, baby.
	I got a note about your slide whistle from David.
	Does John have some kind of diminished lung capacity?
	No, this thing takes a lot of push to get anything out of me.
	It's amazingly...
	He says his attempts on the slide whistle sound awfully pathetic.
	He needs to really hit that thing with some force.
	Try using your diaphragm.
	Oh, no!
	Don't encourage him, please.
	Don't encourage him.
	So, okay.
	So, this is great.
	So, we have no executive producer segment.
	That's great.
	Shall I go straight into PR mentions then?
	Well, we should also mention that people can maybe become an executive producer by going to Dvorak.org slash blog.
	Oops.
	Slash NA. Maybe that's why.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. Yeah.
	Is that page working?
	Let me check if the page is working.
	Maybe it's not working anymore.
	You had that redesign.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. Let me just check.
	That's working.
	Maybe we need a redesign of that page.
	Alright, that page needs work.
	So, channelofwork.com slash NA, no agenda nation, and no agenda show.
	And the way it works is if you come in with, what is the cutoff for associate exec, 200?
	Yeah, 200.
	And if you're the only, or the highest amount over 200 gets the executive producer's Of course, we cut it all.
	At 333, everyone gets it.
	But if you were the one person who came in at 200, you would have been the executive producer.
	We always bump it up.
	And these are real credits.
	These are credits that you can put on your resume, on your CV, on your IMDB. Shut up!
	And unlike, you know, phonies in Hollywood will actually vouch for you if someone says, oh, really, you're an executive producer?
	That's pretty cool.
	It's a real Hollywood thing.
	Yeah, put it on your bio.
	Exactly.
	Put it on your college entrance exam.
	It could.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	Absolutely.
	Why not?
	Yeah.
	Take anything.
	It's for real.
	Alright, so then we'll do this.
	So please, Dvorak.org slash NA. Help a brother out, man.
	Give us some value for value.
	I don't know what you've been spending your money on.
	What kind of quality entertainment?
	I think we're in the holiday season and nobody's listening to the show.
	It's just you and me talking to each other.
	Okay, well, I got nothing better to do.
	Although I will be looking for a job soon.
	PR mentions today, thank you Gene, for wherethedronesat.com, which is great once we have all of that mapped out.
	Maybe we can hook it into Wolfram Alpha.
	Just say drones overhead.
	You know, I was looking for...
	You know, the Wolfram Alpha thing, there was a helicopter flying over the Golden Gate Fields a week ago, and I tried to see if it would show up on the Wolfram Alpha thing, but no.
	No, not the military, not the black ops stuff.
	I think it was KGO. Oh, really?
	KGO didn't show up on Wolfram Alpha?
	That's because it's a flight path thing.
	The helicopters, they just buzz around.
	Like the drones.
	The drones won't be able to track them either.
	Anyway, thank you.
	That's a good one.
	Forwarding to the No Agenda Show and noagendashow.com.
	And Harold did something really good.
	He saw that the noagendashow.com was not registered, so he bought and forwarded to us the.com,.net,.org,.co,.info,.biz,.ca, all the noagendashow.com, which is great.
	We really needed that.
	That's a good catch.
	Appreciate that.
	New initiative, noagendabusiness.com.
	I'm not quite sure what it is, but it seems like there's a website there, and it's some kind of business club that you can become a part of, and maybe small businesses can help each other.
	And conspiracy4one.com.
	Now forwarding to the show, which of course is a callback to episode 359-er with the lone wolf who was in a conspiracy.
	So I guess we'll just start filling that up with everyone who was arrested as a lone wolf in a conspiracy.
	It will be listed on conspiracyforone.com.
	That's a good title for a book.
	Oh, that is a good title.
	When are you going to start writing it?
	Any minute.
	And now you, sometimes you miss an email.
	And I know that this guy's been trying to reach you for a long time.
	And I just said, yeah, screw it.
	Here's where you can find me.
	BrunsClothing.com, did you see this?
	No.
	Of course you didn't.
	Well, he offered to make you a handmade winter coat.
	Brunsclothing.com.
	I never got it.
	It must be done in the spam box.
	Then check your spam box.
	The guy's been trying to reach you.
	His timing is off.
	Something's amiss.
	I answer all my emails.
	Everyone can attest to that.
	And I even replied with you in the CC. Like, hey, John.
	Anyway, it doesn't matter.
	Who's it from?
	What's the name of the addressee?
	I don't have the email here, I don't think.
	But it's BrunsClothing.com.
	Bruns.
	Anyway, so it's made in America.
	And these are really affordable...
	I'm trying to look at the thing here.
	Like $65, he makes an awesome winter coat.
	And he made mine with extra long sleeves and a concealed carry pocket on the inside.
	Ha ha!
	Here's the only thing I have in my box from Brun's Clothing is a $66.66 donation that came in on May 18, 2011.
	Yeah, he's a long-time supporter of the show.
	But anyway, he has a special offer.
	And by the way, so this coat was made by a 65-year-old American woman, not by some child in China.
	It's super.
	And it's great because we've had rain for the past four days.
	And this is perfect.
	What's it made out of?
	I'll tell you what it's made out of.
	I don't know.
	He's in Watertown, South Dakota?
	Yeah.
	It doesn't actually say what it's made out of.
	Well, it's okay.
	It's made out of something.
	It's made out of molecules.
	Anyway, he has a special offer.
	If anyone orders a Bruns clothing jacket for $12 extra, which will go directly to supporting the No Agenda show, he will embroider a No Agenda meme of your choice on the crest.
	Ooh, that's neat.
	Yeah, so he says you could do things like Slay, NoAgendaShow.com, Doug, Dvorak.org, Doug.
	Doug.
	Hi, my name's Pete.
	I got Doug on my jacket.
	Dvorak.org.
	Anyway, it's good, and I appreciate it because I don't have any winter clothes.
	Distraction of the week would be a good meme.
	That's a good one.
	I don't have any winter clothes, and man, it's cold here.
	We had like a real storm last night.
	It's just crazy.
	They got rain and, you know, sleet.
	We got hail on the way.
	And we're at the neighbors.
	And then they're like, oh, it only lasts like two months.
	And then, you know, invariably one of them goes, well, last year was really horrible.
	It was the nuclear winter.
	Like, sheik's name, man.
	Don't do that.
	Please.
	Nikki's going to tell me I'm gypping her.
	Hey, propagate the formula, people.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	World.
	Order.
	Come on, everybody, say it with me now.
	Shut up, slave.
	I think we have a CIA war acting up again, John.
	Well, this is not something that surprises anyone.
	No, but...
	Least of all us.
	Yeah, we've been tracking this for several years.
	Now the General Counsel of the CIA... Has come out against this bill, S-1867.
	And he says, you know, we go down a slippery slope with an individual who wants to do harm to Americans who is inspired in his own basement by the writings he has read from Al-Qaeda and hasn't interacted with a single or other individual in that group, yet he has decided to do violence against America, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	But the headline from Reuters, American citizens are not immune from being treated like an enemy if they take up arms against the United States.
	And I think that there's definitely some strife here between the military and the CIA once again.
	The CIA wants to be the boss of us.
	We can't have the military doing that.
	Military intelligence and the CIA, I've noticed this on the C-SPAN shows where the two of them show up at the same time.
	There's a little bit of a competition going on.
	Do you think?
	I mean, I'm sure they cooperate once in a while, but this whole pipe dream that all these agencies are cooperating is just bogative.
	Yeah, totally bogative.
	And of course, I'm sure the fact that Panetta is, you know...
	We got Panetta out.
	Who do you have...
	Wait a minute, who's running the CIA now?
	I forget.
	What's his name?
	The guy who came over...
	Your buddy, the guy with all the...
	Chevrons and metals and all this stuff over his uniform.
	Oh, right.
	Petraeus.
	Petraeus, yeah.
	Right.
	So, you know, they swap places there.
	I don't know.
	It's weird.
	I think the reason they swap places is because I think they're trying to get it so the two groups cooperate.
	Because neither one...
	I mean, these top guys, the absolute top of the organization, are essentially figureheads.
	Yeah.
	They're not really...
	They don't really do anything.
	It's always the deputy guys that seem to be running things.
	And I don't know.
	Well, speaking of the CIA, the New York Times, I thought, did a really good job at explaining the following news report, which kind of came out for like five seconds and then no one talked about it again.
	Good morning.
	Well, he was a contractor working for the U.S. government on an aid program in Pakistan, apparently, according to these militant sites.
	And essentially, the demands, and there are eight of them, are totally unrealistic.
	I'll just give you an example.
	The speaker on the site, which is believed to be Eman al-Zawari, says that the U.S. bombing of Pakistan, Somalia, and Yemen needs to come to an end.
	All prisoners at Guantanamo Bay need to be released.
	And it goes on and says...
	Anyone who's been arrested or charged with having any kind of links or contacts with al-Qaeda or the Taliban needs to be released.
	And the speaker on the tape, again believed to be Zawari, says that he will only be freed if these demands are met, and it really is up to President Obama.
	So I look at this Warren Weinstein fellow, and the New York Times has an article about this, and it's like so obvious.
	Here we go.
	Listen to this language.
	Words do matter.
	American officials identified the man as Warren Weinstein, the Pakistan director, J.E. Austin Associates, as an international development consulting firm.
	Yeah, I know.
	As soon as he was picked up as part of USAID, that's the first thing I said.
	I didn't do any follow-up on the story.
	Well, he's an economic hitman.
	Yeah, well, listen, but the New York Times is so funny.
	Here we go.
	He was working on a development project financed by the American government in the tribal regions.
	And here, he was a very experienced man and said he had worked in many countries in difficult circumstances.
	Oh, really?
	Total spook!
	Difficult circumstances, yes.
	I'm from Virginia.
	I'm from Virginia.
	Please, please, people.
	So what's going to happen there?
	I mean, you know, this is all part of this whole Pakistan thing.
	It's like, I think that the U.S. and the crazies from our own country are trying to break it up and just decimate, you know, get the country angry at itself or something.
	And then, you know, they grab this guy.
	I think they grab this.
	This guy's been grabbed for a swap of someone else.
	And he's 70.
	Yeah.
	I didn't realize he was that old.
	But there's probably somebody that they really want us trade for, and so they grabbed him.
	Right, a trade.
	And they said, look, you have so-and-so.
	Give us Justin Bieber.
	You have so-and-so.
	We want him back, and we want him back now.
	And then they made all these crazy demands, and then the swap will take place, but it has to be done.
	I'll bet you we never find out what happened.
	They'll just drop out of the news cycle.
	Oh, it already has.
	They tried it.
	It was like for a second there.
	It was like, oh, this is news, and then Sperman Herman back on the scene, suspending his campaign.
	Can I just make a little Red Book prediction?
	Since you and I are a big fan of the reality format, Newt Gingrich about to crash and burn.
	I just got to think about what it will be.
	What do you think the Newt Gingrich crash will be?
	Well, he wants to get out, but at the same time, he's really having a lot of fun.
	His ego is just getting nothing but strokes over this whole everything.
	I mean, he's getting lots of attention.
	He's getting op-eds in the New York Times.
	There's a couple today.
	He's writing op-eds?
	No, no, he's getting them about him.
	Oh, about him, okay.
	I mean, you'd write him too, but somebody else is going to be going on and on about him.
	He loves it.
	So I think he's going to have to crack or get mad or do something in public that is embarrassing and costs him an election or two because he can't afford to actually run.
	He's got too many skeletons in the closet.
	There's a bunch of stuff that hasn't been revealed he doesn't want to get out.
	Such as what?
	He has a foundation that has been collecting money for all sorts of things.
	He's kind of like a clone of the Clinton Foundation, and no one's really dug into it.
	Here's all I remember.
	Before he got to where he is, when he started to run all the...
	Real analytic pundits said, this guy is not serious about running because he's got too much weird stuff with this foundation in terms of money that prevents him from really being able to just...
	He can't give that up.
	He just can't cut that loose.
	And so he'll make a fake run at it because he can get matching funds and spend a lot of money, do some travel...
	But he can't really seriously do this.
	But he's such an egomaniac that it's possible that he might convince himself that he can't.
	But I tend to think that he won't.
	I think he's going to blow up to get out of it and then use it as an excuse.
	And then he could ride the wave of, well, this is the problem with the news cycle.
	Oh, yeah.
	Right.
	And then he'll get a news gig, like a really good news gig.
	Whatever.
	But then we're still left with Romney, and I'm sticking to my guns, which is Romney Perry on the ticket.
	And Ron Paul, I would like to see win Iowa and come close to New Hampshire, and then that'll be the end of him.
	Thanks, John.
	That's awesome.
	Well, I have a couple interesting Ron Paul clips, because of course...
	Let us say, just to go along with our uberlords in the mainstream media, there's no chance of winning ever!
	This can never happen!
	Which I heard last night at our dinner, too.
	Well, the guy has no chance of winning.
	Why?
	Why?
	Well, because that's what everyone says.
	But there's a new little meme, and it's this one.
	Ron Paul hit Newt Gingrich pretty hard this week, and he's got the money to keep at it.
	3.6 million in cash.
	Even better, he's got the army.
	This is the new one about Ron Paul.
	It's the Ron Paul army.
	He doesn't have, like, people, American citizens, who want to vote for him and who like his message.
	No, he has an army.
	Yeah, they're portrayed as a bunch of fanatics.
	Yeah, an army.
	Brown shirts.
	Yeah, an army.
	He's Hitler.
	Yeah.
	Fox and Fools, whatever it is.
	And we'll get to this in a second.
	Of course, Ron Paul has now opted out of the next Celebrity Apprentice presidential X Factor reality show debate, which is to be hosted and moderated by Donald Trump.
	Like, if you really want to get Ron Paul out, and you can't do it through any normal means, like, you know, sex scandal, or, you know, financial scandal, it's like, just roll out Donald Trump.
	And Fox and Fools...
	Well, listen to this.
	Well, December 27th, as you all know, the Donald Trump debate, that is also in Iowa.
	He is the moderator.
	Who's in, who's out?
	We know this.
	John Huntsman is out.
	Newt Gingrich is in.
	And boy, is Ron Paul out.
	And he is leaving no doubt about why he's not going to this debate.
	It's very subliminal language, by the way.
	And boy, is Ron Paul out.
	...by Donald Trump.
	Quote, the selection of a reality television personality to host a presidential debate that voters nationwide will be watching is beneath the office of the presidency and flies in the face of that office's history and dignity.
	Ron Paul leaving no doubt about his opinion.
	And Donald Trump also leaving no doubt about his opinion responding in, I would say, vintage Trump style.
	Ron Paul has zero chance of winning, either the nomination or the presidency.
	My poll numbers were substantially higher than any of his poll numbers at any time.
	Few people take Ron Paul seriously, and many of his views and presentations make him a clown-like candidate.
	I am glad in John Huntsman, who has inconsequences.
	Now listen to it.
	Here it comes.
	This is that not-so-hot chick on Fox in the morning.
	She has the skirt on, of course, and she's got okay legs, because that's all we're supposed to be looking at.
	A bunch of poll numbers, or a chance of winning, will not be attending the debate and wasting the time of the viewers who are trying very hard to make a very important decision.
	But in Iowa right now, Ron Paul is in second place.
	18% of the vote in Iowa right now, and perhaps one of the best ground games in Iowa among all of the candidates.
	He has volunteers who are coming.
	They're an army, aren't they?
	An army.
	There it is.
	They're an army, aren't they?
	How old is he now?
	He's over seven years old.
	Oh, ageist.
	He's over 70.
	Oh, over 70.
	Oh, obviously you can't pass that.
	He definitely clips that.
	He has so many young people pouring into that state more than any other candidate because of the excitement that he...
	Now listen to the douchebagette.
	...he garners for those individuals.
	So, I don't know.
	I mean, zero chance of winning may be a little harsh there, but 18% in Iowa.
	If he does well in Iowa, as Chris Wallace was talking about yesterday, that can be really important as we move into New Hampshire, too.
	If Ron Paul's in second place, second place, that's...
	You're right.
	I mean, look at the early states.
	Ron Paul is consistently in double figures in almost every state we've polled thus far.
	Is he inconsequential?
	Far from it.
	This race is fun.
	You never know what's going to happen from day to day.
	This race is fun.
	Idiot.
	Well, you know, the thing about Trump, of course, he said it was at the CPAC last year that he made a big stink about Ron Paul, saying he's unelectable, he's no good, and all the rest of it.
	And then they let him, with this baggage, essentially bigoted opinions about Ron Paul, head the debate.
	It's just unbelievable.
	I mean, who is the sponsor of this piece of crap?
	I've looked into this.
	It's the Ion Television Network, which I've never even heard of.
	And it's run by Newsmax.
	Does that make any sense?
	Newsmax?
	Newsmax is a right-wing operation.
	Right.
	And Newsmax.com is a...
	I guess they're a pretty popular website.
	Apparently they have a cable channel called the Ion Television.
	Never heard of it.
	Oh, Ion.
	Oh, I know.
	Yeah, Ion is a...
	Right.
	It's a kind of a...
	It's a weird cable operation that's syndicated in some funny way to other networks.
	It's called the Ion Network.
	It's actually really more of a staging platform.
	Yeah.
	Sorry to describe.
	Whatever the case...
	Yeah, this is bogus.
	Bogative.
	It's totally bogative.
	It's the whole thing.
	Ron Paul was on CNN this morning.
	But this, by the way, proves that the right wing, I mean, the fact that Ron Paul is more of a right winger technically than any of these right wingers who are all big government Republicans that want to just expand government, because that's what they always do when they get in.
	Big talkers, everybody, you know, they're religious big government apes.
	It just proves that the true conservative of a Ron Paul nature who is for personal freedoms and legalizing or decriminalizing drugs, let's make that distinction, they're against anything like that.
	They want essentially a large bureaucratic monstrosity just like the Democrats.
	It's just pathetic.
	Did you see the Huckabee Presidential Forum?
	So, Huckabee is doing this, like, you know, there's like a firing squad.
	They get three people, and then they ask the presidential candidates questions.
	And it's like, they actually attacked Ron Paul.
	Really attacked him about the Patriot Act.
	Did you not see this?
	No.
	You want to hear it?
	I wish I had, yeah.
	Listen to this.
	It blew me away, really.
	Congressman, good evening to you.
	In 1995, we lost 168 Oklahomans in a domestic terrorist attack.
	My assistant attorney...
	So this is going back, right?
	So now they know his weakness is what Newt Gingrich, he got hoodwinked into bringing up Timothy McVeigh.
	And so now that's what they're going to hammer him on, on Fox.
	General, Melissa Houston is a survivor.
	Of that blast.
	This guy has a personal state because it's his sister.
	And has spent many years after that utilizing tools of the Patriot Act fighting domestic terrorism.
	You have come out opposed to the Patriot Act based upon constitutional privacy concerns and I too share some of your concerns with respect to privacy.
	But what substantive or thoughtful alternative do you have to the Patriot Act to prevent further acts of domestic terrorism in the future?
	The one thing is, you say your goal is preventing all crimes and all criminal acts.
	I mean, you destroy liberty by doing that.
	But the Patriot Act, if that would have been called the repeal of the Fourth Amendment, it wouldn't have passed.
	That's essentially what that does.
	So that's way too much sacrifice of liberty.
	But, you know, there are laws in the books for violent acts, but if you think you can pass enough laws to prevent all crimes and all acts of violence, just think of the acts of violence that occur in our households.
	You know, accidents, are you going to put cameras in every household or whatever?
	I don't think it's a lack of laws that is our problem.
	So, Congressman, you don't believe that there needs to be a comprehensive law at the federal level equipping law enforcement to prevent domestic terrorism in this country.
	Listen to this.
	This is unbelievable.
	How can these people actually believe this crap?
	I don't believe we need a comprehensive law at the federal level.
	I believe we need state laws against violence.
	The one law that we do have at a national level that we totally ignore, and that is that terrorism is a crime and it's not a war.
	Yet we have drifted off to being called This is a war on terrorism, and it's a justification to pursue war, not only around the world, but even domestically.
	So I would say it's a crime.
	But the Constitution, I think, is very clear.
	There's nothing in our Constitution that says that violent acts should be a prerogative of the government.
	They didn't offer a national police force.
	I mean, even today, I mean, if you're talking about criminal acts of violence, murder, manslaughter, robbery, that's all a state.
	Okay, John, so now you and I are in the control room.
	We're in the booth.
	We have the IFB. We can talk to the host.
	We can talk to the questioners.
	Ron Paul clearly making too much sense.
	What do we do?
	We've got to...
	We've got to cut him off, go to a commercial, go to a break.
	No, no.
	We only have one card we can play, man.
	What are we going to pull out?
	Come on, come on, come on.
	I don't know.
	You know what to do.
	Come on, John.
	I just pull his mic.
	Turn off the light.
	Turn on the fire alarm.
	That's what I'd do.
	We have already 100,000 federal bureaucrats carrying guns.
	We don't need any more federal policemen.
	And I think that the problem isn't a lack of federal laws and federal policemen.
	Congressman, what would you call the attacks right around the corner on the Twin Towers?
	There you go.
	Bring out 9-11.
	Stupid idiot.
	I don't know who that woman was, but...
	Do you not call that terror?
	New York City.
	What would you call those?
	Well, that's an act of violence.
	Is that an act of terrorism, Congressman?
	Oh, she knows so well, doesn't she?
	Wow.
	Yeah, they're out there.
	The Fox hates Ron Paul.
	People who are big Fox supporters and they think that they're getting some sort of fair and balanced anything should just take a look at their treatment of Ron Paul.
	From Riley, who's just a Ron Paul hater, to every one of them.
	I can't think of one person on...
	I think Napolitano does...
	With some pro Ron Paul stuff.
	And every time he does, they put him on hiatus.
	It's like, we've moved your time slot to 2 a.m.
	No, no, they put in a substitute.
	I've seen this happen two or three times.
	Hey, man, you're going over the edge again.
	I think you need to take your meds and go on a little vacation.
	Don't worry, we'll bring in someone to take care of.
	It's all paid.
	It's all paid.
	It's all good, man.
	It's all good.
	Then we have all these other guys.
	I mean, Lou Dobbs is now working for Fox, and he now kisses the government's behind.
	You can play this clip.
	There's a guy who was floating around who had a bumper sticker that says, Obama's got to go.
	And so apparently they busted this guy for threatening the life of the president.
	And the guy talks about how the Secret Service, everybody talks about him.
	But listen to how Lou Dobbs...
	Just goes on for no apparent reason about how great these government workers are.
	And the Secret Service folks were cordial in all respects?
	Oh, yes, sir.
	Very professional.
	Very.
	As I'm used to when dealing with somebody that's been trained and properly trained.
	Well, Secret Service is a terrific outfit.
	I've never met an agent in the Secret Service who was not professional in every regard.
	Ha, ha, ha.
	Really?
	What?
	What's he talking about?
	What does he know about?
	Why is this?
	Is he hanging out at the bar?
	Is he hanging out at the bar with the Secret Service or something?
	I have no idea why he's kissing their butts like this on the television.
	Maybe they give him inside information.
	Who knows?
	I don't know.
	I want to hear about what happened to this guy.
	He played bad bumper sticker.
	This guy says he runs a construction company.
	He says he's not hiring anybody until Obama goes.
	And he had this bumper sticker that says Obama's got to go.
	And so all hell broke loose.
	From my understanding, it evolved from I was turned into the FBI. And then the FBI handed it over to the Department of Homeland Security.
	And then they handed it to Secret Service.
	And Secret Service came and visited my house.
	And we had a long conversation.
	And I give them a voluntary search of my premises.
	I also brought up my Facebook page and they took a look over it and decided that it was somewhat a waste of their time, that I wasn't putting it out there that I meant Mr.
	Obama or President Obama any harm.
	That's very interesting.
	So you have a bumper sticker and then you're deemed as a threat against the President.
	Yeah, if you have an anti-Obama bumper sticker.
	Wow.
	He said that he could have reworded it, but it wasn't very...
	What did it say?
	I can't remember, but it was very mild.
	It was like something about no more jobs and Obama's got to go kind of thing.
	Oh, go.
	Yeah, go.
	That would be the operative word there.
	You can't say go.
	Well, you know, it was, I wish I'd written it down, but it wasn't, it was dumb.
	It was like, oh, you know, it's the kind of thing you'd run into in Montana, you know, all the time.
	You know, oust the president, you know.
	In fact, I'm looking at the chat room in Montana.
	I think it says, until we get rid of Obama.
	Oh, that would be it.
	Oh, you can't say that, man.
	You can't say that.
	Can't say get rid of.
	In Montana, they have Impeach Obama bumper stickers, but that's okay, I guess.
	Yeah, Impeach should be okay.
	Yeah, you can't say get rid of or got to go or anything like that.
	Well, we're still waiting for it.
	It's a bumper sticker.
	Whatever the case, this is all part of the Patriot Act and everything in between.
	Yeah, no, there's a Ron Paul thing.
	I hope that the people of Iowa, you know, wake up and just as a – even if you don't like the guy, just vote him in because it's just – this is so lopsided.
	This coverage is so skewed, bigoted, and fake.
	It's just – it's really annoying.
	I think the New Hampshire – Voters might give him the nod because they see through all this stuff because they have meetings just like the Iowa people do.
	Oh, Ron Paul's got an army.
	Once you get out of the states that have these meetings where people actually talk about things, then he's done.
	Well, he's got an army.
	He's got nut jobs, an army.
	An army of nut jobs.
	You watch, you're going to hear this more and more, Ron Paul's army.
	It can't just be Americans who want something different.
	It's an army.
	You know, the funny thing about Ron Paul and his thesis is that in today's New York Times front page right, the front page left was the distraction to defiant Cain suspense's bid for presidency, but today's New York Times, Sunday Times, right, top story, DEA launders Mexican profits of drug cartels.
	Undercover U.S. agents.
	Agency follows money, denying similarity to gun operation.
	The story goes on and on, and now it turns out that the DEA apparently is the number one drug laundering operation in the world.
	Duh.
	Duh.
	They're the number one money launderers, and they claim that, well, it's not the same as the guns because money laundering doesn't kill people.
	Duh.
	These guys are just...
	This is the problem with this war on drugs and the whole thing, this bureaucracy, the DEA. It's set up to actually smuggle drugs, man.
	Come on.
	The whole thing is...
	It's a scam.
	There's actually a discussion of that, too.
	Well, December 8th...
	The fact that these Fox...
	All the news outlets can't see through this...
	And condemn the whole thing is beyond me.
	Oh, can't see or won't see.
	And they're all on coke, half these people.
	That's it.
	Hey, man, don't report on that.
	You don't want my shit to dry up, dude.
	Don't do that.
	December 8th, U.S. Attorney Holder will have to testify again.
	And the word on the street is that there's going to be some fireworks.
	And that all the cover-up is going to buckle.
	He's going to have to resign.
	December 8th?
	December 8th, yes.
	C-SPAN. Mark it now.
	Thursday.
	Yeah.
	We'd be doing our show.
	Yeah, well, I got the DVR. Is there anything in the New York Times about Syria, John?
	No.
	Nothing at all?
	Nothing?
	No, the CIA still got Syria on the outs.
	Well, because...
	One, two, three, nope.
	Nothing on the front page.
	Because there is a little sign, Fareed Zakaria, who of course is a total asset.
	Yeah, he's an asset for MI6. He's not an American.
	Well, but he goes drinking with the President.
	He only has his secret meetings.
	Well, that I wonder about.
	Okay.
	Well, then it makes sense that MI6 asked that he says here in his most recent blog, Assad leads a minority regime that has been able to stay in power by bribing key members of the Sunni elite in both business community and the military.
	At the end of the day, the game becomes much more difficult to play once the money runs out.
	For this reason, I think we are now seeing the beginning of the end of Assad's rule.
	It may still take a year to run its course.
	There's a key.
	They can't get us on board.
	Whoops, here we go.
	We got one story on page 16, lower.
	Below the fold.
	The bottom corner.
	15 are killed as Syrian forces and army defectors clash.
	Okay.
	It's a very short article.
	It looks like it's about 250 words.
	No good.
	And it just doesn't say much.
	No good.
	No good.
	It's not time yet.
	It's not time.
	Big scandal over in Gitmo Nation Lowlands.
	Extremely funny.
	So we have the Dutch version of ASCAP BMI, which is called Bumastemra.
	And I think you and I inherently know all of these organizations are corrupt and they steal money and they hold money back.
	And they're supposed to be protecting the artists, but they don't really.
	No.
	They just never get protected.
	No.
	So there's an anti-piracy group who are really aggressive in Holland called Brein, B-R-E-I-N, also, which means brain.
	And, you know, they've been suing people and they've been throwing people in jail, getting people thrown in jail and all kinds of stuff like this.
	Hello, love.
	So they're an organization, and they have a little video leader that they put on every single DVD that is released in the country.
	It's one of these, you know, don't copyright, brrr, right?
	Which you would see from the, what do you call it, the American movie, what is it called here in the States?
	I don't know why.
	You know, the movie is the, come on, help me out, the movie association.
	MPAA? Yeah, those guys.
	Yeah, MPA. So what turns out is they used a piece of music without permission from some guy.
	Who has been fighting since 2007 to get paid.
	Because when the Harry Potter DVD is released in Gitmo Lowlands, that thing is on it with his music.
	So he has an actual physical distribution right and a right to a royalty.
	So this guy's been trying to get paid by the Dutch ASCAP BMI, and they've just been giving him a runaround.
	And then one of the members of the board...
	Calls them up, the members of the board of the ASCAP BMI in Holland, and they recorded this.
	This is the great thing.
	They recorded the guy saying it.
	It says, well, look, I've got a publishing company, and I'll tell you what, if you sign with me, then I'll make sure it gets on the meeting notes at the next board meeting.
	And anything I get, I take a third.
	Wow.
	It's like, wow, can you believe this is going on?
	And of course, it doesn't make mainstream news anywhere.
	Please.
	Yeah.
	And now the guy is on vacation now.
	He's like, oh, no, I can't make the next board meeting.
	Yeah, that's what it's like.
	That's how it works.
	Yeah, it's bad.
	I'm sure the same thing is happening everywhere.
	It's just that they caught this guy and they actually got it on tape.
	It's pretty cool.
	Yeah, that's where everything is.
	All your phone calls should be taped.
	They actually did it in a radio studio.
	Oh, jeez.
	Boy, your phone sounds really good.
	That guy's an a-hole.
	Anyway, there's a whole story about it.
	You should read it in the show notes.
	It's 362.nashownotes.com.
	So I'm wondering if, you know, you were floating around on the Hot Pockets Tour 2008, and you ran into some Secret Service guys.
	Several.
	Probably a couple of Lou Dobbs' buddies, I guess.
	They're so kind.
	Who told you that there's stuff on Hillary that will prevent her from, you know, even thinking of running for president.
	Right, right.
	Do you think it's possible...
	That the Hillary camp knows this and their whole job over the last year while she's floating around the world as operatives for her is to find all these leaks and quash them and stuff them in the closet and do everything you can.
	And the reason I'm suggesting that is because of this...
	Just bubbling on the surface of the possibility that Hillary is going to replace Biden.
	It's come up again.
	Oh, boy.
	It's come up again.
	And, of course, that's just a lead-in for her to take over the whole job, you know, because if Obama decides to quit.
	But play this very bogative story on approval rating.
	It's called approval rating BS. And when we're watching it here, we're going or saying to ourselves...
	Does Hillary actually have an approval rating?
	And does Bill Clinton have an approval rating?
	And does the Secretary of the Treasury have an approval rating?
	If so, where are these things?
	And who's doing them?
	And why?
	To it.
	Lost in the Great Recession.
	The President appeared with the former President, Bill Clinton, today, a very popular man whose help he may need to win over the independence and re-election.
	CNN political analyst David Gergen came out front and he says another Clinton may actually be the key to re-election, Hillary.
	Gergen says there's talk about Hillary joining the ticket next year.
	Her current approval rating is higher than that of her husband.
	I think it's just made up, first of all.
	There is something called a Q rating.
	There's a company that does that.
	No, no, no.
	This can't be that.
	The Q rating is not the same as an approval rating under any circumstances.
	That's just a notoriety rating.
	I don't think that's what they're talking about.
	Are you saying that they're making this up, John?
	Well, I mean, yeah.
	This is your buddy Aaron Burnett, by the way.
	This is her report.
	Now, she may have made a mistake because I don't think she's very good at this show that she does.
	I think she's in over a head, to be honest about it.
	It's completely bogative.
	And so she said that Hillary's rating is higher than her husband's.
	I think she meant Obama.
	I don't think her rating is higher than Bill.
	Bill has a great rating.
	Well, if you listen to the end of that Fox report I played earlier, they've got an approval rating, too.
	Here, just listen to the end again.
	The state we've polled thus far, is he inconsequential?
	Far from it.
	This race is fun.
	You never know what's going to happen from day to day.
	It's really been a rollercoaster ride.
	It's been fun.
	You put out a similar statement when I couldn't go to your Christmas party last year.
	Yes.
	And your ratings are inconsequential to me.
	Your poll numbers are always better than mine.
	See, everyone has them.
	We don't have them.
	We need poll numbers.
	We need some polls.
	We need some approval ratings.
	The podcast approval ratings.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, so this is starting to bubble, and the fact that Burnett would have it seems to me to be a plant.
	Yeah, a plant.
	A plant.
	And not only that, but what was weird about the clip was they showed Obama with Bill, who looks like he's going to drop dead.
	He looks so bad.
	I mean, he really looks bad.
	Yeah, he needs to go to Haiti and rest a little while.
	He just doesn't look good.
	I mean, it looks like they're poisoning him, actually.
	And then they showed Hillary, and it wasn't like a recent picture of Hillary in Miramar or any place like that.
	It was one of her Paris shots, and she had the most glamorous hairdo I've ever seen her wear.
	Oh, yeah, which was not what she had in Miramar.
	And two things about that.
	On the last show, you said, hey, she needs to get to Paris.
	And lo and behold, I think Reuters, or was it AP? Let me just check here.
	Came out with a report that literally said, it was, yeah, Reuters.
	What not to wear in Myanmar?
	Clinton's Burma Road.
	And then it goes in this whole thing about her fashions.
	Like, it wasn't exactly Nixon in China, but Hillary Clinton's visit to Myanmar this week had that slight touch of the surreal that sometimes marks the beginning of unexpected diplomatic change.
	And then it talks about the color coordination.
	The protocol is do not wear white and pink.
	Rust and saffron discouraged.
	And then, of course, she came out and she was wearing a pastel pink blazer.
	But did you see her...
	I thought it was a bright blue pastel.
	No, that's after she got off the plane.
	Then she wore the blue pastel with her hair all tied back, which would just look horrible.
	Just horrible.
	She needs to get back to Paris.
	But did you see her and Sue Key...
	Hugging?
	Well, I just saw them standing there, but I didn't...
	Oh!
	You didn't see them hugging and kissing?
	Oh, no, no, I didn't see the hugging and kissing.
	Oh, it was like, get a room, you two!
	Like, you know, they...
	Oh, yeah, they're holding hands and they're hugging and kissing three, four times and looking deep into each other's eyes.
	I don't know.
	Huh?
	Yeah.
	I think you stumbled onto something, my friend.
	Remember she said that after her secretary of statehood, she wants to go work on women and girls around the world?
	I think she's getting a head start, a little jump there.
	It's in the show notes.
	You should take a look at it.
	It's really like, oh my goodness.
	I mean, but like sisters, but then it was sexual.
	I saw sparks.
	Well, you know, why not?
	Especially if Hillary's gotten all the skeletons eliminated from the closet.
	If she starts making a move right now toward Obama's job, which will start with her bumping off, not bumping off, but eliminating from the ticket by O'Biden, Who would be glad to get...
	He's tired.
	He's set to go.
	Yeah, he's tired.
	He has other stuff to do.
	He's pooped.
	He's pooped.
	That's a good one.
	And he can step aside.
	She can put herself in that position and then just before the...
	I don't think she'll ever take second spot, John.
	No, she won't, but she's going to put herself in that position so she can bump Obama out.
	In other words, just before the election, months ahead, when Obama has to go, you know, take care of the family, there'll be some family matters, or he wants to spend more time, or he's sick of the job, or something bad happened, or maybe there's some scandal.
	Who knows?
	Could it be health?
	We're sticking with the theory.
	I mean, he may run again.
	If he does, I really do agree that Hillary is unlikely to be, you know, put up with being vice president, but we'll see.
	It's getting interesting, let's put it that way.
	For us, it is.
	Yeah.
	And nothing we have predicted has fallen off the track.
	Nothing important yet.
	No.
	Well, no, but I will hold on to the prediction.
	I still think he will quit.
	And here's another one that keeps cropping up.
	In the front page of Sunday Style, a huge picture of an egg being cracked open with the head and upper torso of...
	Chelsea Clinton popping out of it.
	Wait a minute.
	I hope that's online.
	Hold on a second.
	Wait a minute.
	There's an egg cracking and Chelsea Clinton is popping out of it?
	Yes.
	Really?
	Living up to the family name.
	Huge 72-point headline.
	A job with NBC is the latest step in Chelsea Clinton's gradual coming out as a public figure.
	One who seems to finally accept her celebrity.
	The online version does not.
	Oh yeah, it does.
	That's hilarious.
	She likes a little egg pop-out.
	What is the symbolism of that egg?
	She's also on the board.
	This is interesting.
	In the past 12 months, she's joined the board.
	How does she become a board member?
	She's just some recent college grad, obviously because of corruption.
	Oh, Barry Diller's IAC Interactive Corp.
	Yeah.
	Oh.
	Oh, you know what?
	Here you go.
	Do you know what her next move is?
	I can tell you.
	Okay.
	Her next move is Chelsea Clinton Jewelry on the Home Shopping Network.
	Isn't that Dillard's company?
	Doesn't he own that?
	Doesn't he own that?
	I don't think that's going to happen.
	QVC. He owns QVC. She wouldn't do it because it would be...
	Beneath her.
	She has to be taken seriously.
	They're going to push her as a...
	Oh, listen to this.
	Taking an...
	Oh, my goodness.
	take an increasing public role with the Clinton Global Initiative, presented an award to her mother at Diane von Furstenberg's International Women's Day event, and hosted her father's 65th birthday event at a Hollywood benefit for the Clinton Foundation with fellow guests Lady Gaga and Bono.
	She's even started a Facebook page.
	Oh my goodness.
	Let's go look at her Facebook page.
	Hello from London.
	Hello from London!
	Tonight I'm attending an At Millennium Network reception co-hosted by Chris Engslav, Sarah Latham, and Virginia Rustic-Pattini.
	The Millennium Network invites...
	Oh, this is one of those Clinton things.
	Invites younger leaders across different sectors, including business philanthropy, to get involved in the work of the Clinton Foundation, which includes improving health systems in the developing world, combating HIV, AIDS, etc., etc., etc.
	It's a PR thing.
	But you should put cool pictures on there.
	You know, like of her naked in the bathroom where you take it in the mirror.
	Like all the kids do on the Facebook.
	Oh, yeah, holding the camera.
	Yeah, like all the kids do on the Facebook.
	All the kids.
	Oh, these pictures.
	She does have pictures.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Wow.
	Okay.
	She needs to learn how to do the pout, the Facebook pout.
	Someone needs to teach.
	The duck lips?
	The duck lips.
	Oh, yeah.
	This is not good, what I'm seeing here.
	These are not flattering pictures.
	Let's see.
	Here's one with her mom.
	No, wait.
	That's with Lady Gaga.
	Okay.
	Her mom and Lady Gaga look the same?
	Hey, have you ever seen him in the same picture?
	Seriously?
	And there she is with Bill.
	Yeah, I know.
	This is very, very sad.
	Her profile picture looks good, I have to say.
	It's a good profile picture, but then you look at the one with her and...
	She needs to get her act together.
	She needs a publicist who will not allow these sorts of photos.
	And she'd have a professional photographer at her beck and call on every continent.
	Bring the guy in.
	He's the superstar.
	Let him take the photos and then use those.
	And he'll know how to make them look like snapshots, but they'll only be flattering.
	She should get Annie Leibovitz.
	Yeah, Leibovitz would do it.
	So this is a picture of her and Vanessa Angelica.
	I don't know who that is.
	Some...
	Oh, this picture is just...
	She looks like a pumpkin-faced carve-out.
	That's what her head looks like.
	No, they've got to get their act together if they're going to pull this off.
	And she's got a gut, and her gut's hanging over her belt.
	She's got a gut?
	Oh, yeah.
	Kind of young to have a gut.
	Anyway, so our prediction was that she will run for something, and, well, here she is.
	The legacy...
	Or the dynasty has to continue.
	You know?
	This is how these families work.
	Jeb Bush, we haven't heard from him lately either.
	I'm still expecting him to pop up at any moment.
	You think that's possible?
	Yeah.
	Well, he'll pop up, but he's not going anywhere and he knows it, so he's not really caring that much.
	Anyway, John, we are about to celebrate a very, very, very, very big and very important event.
	And we, as always, when there's an important event, we have a jingle.
	The Euro.
	I don't know how long we'll be able to use the jingle. - Thanks to Paul the book guy for putting that together.
	I look at all these EU websites and it's hilarious because they put a lot of information out in all different languages.
	They must have thousands of people working on these sites.
	And of course the Euro celebrates its 10th anniversary in January of 2012.
	So while the whole thing is coming apart at the seams, literally just falling apart, you know, like, of course, you know, no one sends a memo like, hey, man, we should kind of roll back the celebration thing because, like, it ain't doing too well and people might see that as kind of dumb.
	And, you know, so, what's on the calendar?
	Uh, Heinz, I think it's time to make the Euro Tenta celebration video!
	Which is a great video.
	It's really put together well.
	You know, it's beautiful animation.
	I've chopped it down to a couple of minutes.
	It's like ten minutes long.
	But there's a couple of very interesting pieces of information in this.
	Bombastic music.
	Europe is more than just a place on the map.
	Yes.
	With its common heritage and history, shared values and achievements, Europe builds bridges and inspires hope.
	What shared values?
	What shared achievements?
	And hope!
	What shared hope?
	This is a group of people that have been fighting with each other since time immemorial.
	Since Charlemagne.
	It gets so much better.
	It was its people to look to the future with confidence.
	Confidence?
	Look to the future with confidence.
	Have you seen Athens by any chance?
	One advantage is that there is no need to exchange money when traveling within the euro.
	So this is all about how great it is.
	This is how it was sold in 2002.
	It's like, it's only good.
	You can travel without exchanging your money.
	It's so awesome.
	We need to do this.
	Area.
	Indeed, irrespective of which country issues the banknotes and coins, they can be used in any of the euro area countries.
	And having the same currency makes it easy to compare prices from one country to another.
	Or to see how you're getting nothing in your paycheck from one country to another.
	It's very easy.
	Now let's bring out Draghi, the chief of the European Central Bank.
	Decade?
	I like it when they say decayed.
	Don't you like it?
	Because it sounds like it's decayed down to nothing.
	A single currency has become a symbol of integration and cooperation.
	And the euro, banknotes and coins have become part of our daily lives.
	Despite the challenges currently faced by Europe, as well as the rest of the world, the people of the euro area can rest assured that the European Central Bank will remain faithful to its mandate of maintaining price stability.
	Really?
	Which means not bailing anybody out.
	That's how you're going to do your price stability, Draghi?
	Now comes the whole bit about counterfeit and some interesting information, and it's what they not show that kind of struck me.
	The 10th anniversary of the Euro banknotes and coins also marks the end of the exchange period for the old national banknotes.
	Now, this is something I didn't know.
	Apparently, you can still take your old banknotes from, I think it's Finland, Greece, and Italy, interestingly enough, and still exchange them, but these deadlines are expiring.
	Yeah, I think the French franc, too.
	Yeah, the franc as well, you're right.
	France, Greece and Italy.
	So if you still have some, you should exchange them before the 17th of February 2012 at the Banque de France, the 28th of February at the Banca d'Italia, the 29th of February at the Bank of Finland, the 29th of February at the Bank of Finland, and the 1st of March at the Bank of Greece.
	Do you think there's anything going on with that?
	Because it just struck me as odd.
	Well, I've got a bunch of old French francs and I knew that they were going to expire.
	They've been trying to get them off the, you know, I'll probably keep the smaller denominations as collectibles.
	Sure.
	But I don't think that's unusual.
	No, you don't think there's any?
	In fact, they did the same thing.
	The English pounds are even weirder because there's old pounds and new pounds and they look exactly identical.
	Except for the fact that there's a little logo on the note itself.
	I think it says E, just a couple letters.
	And if you don't have that logo on there, you can't use the bill.
	And when I went over there and I had one of these old English pounds, it was just like any other one.
	They said, oh, you can't use this.
	It's no good.
	You've got to go to the bank.
	And I'd be, what?
	So...
	They just want to...
	Just some sort of normalization of the currency or something going on.
	You don't think the collapse of the euro will...
	Or, you know, has anything to do with the timing of this.
	Well, I think the collapse of the euro will make this whole thing more funnier.
	And maybe these other things are going to be really valuable if you don't cash them in.
	I don't know.
	So there's a very interesting movement of foot.
	Hail the foot.
	Listen to the...
	Now they go into the counterfeit thing and how secure these notes are.
	But listen...
	Like other international currencies, the euro has become a target for counterfeiters.
	But with more than 14 billion genuine euro banknotes in circulation, the chance of receiving a counterfeit note is extremely low.
	And their security features make them difficult to counterfeit.
	So they're showing the 5 euro note, the 10 euro note, counterfeit banknotes.
	Additionally, the ECB and the national central banks of the euro system strive to keep up with the latest technological developments in order to maintain the very high quality of euro banking.
	And by the way, where they're talking about all this counterfeiting, they're actually showing the printing presses running counterfeit euros, because of course they're just printing it up.
	You know, I find this interesting more than the other thing.
	Because why would you...
	We don't brag about the fact that, you know...
	I mean, they're always fighting counterfeiters.
	But I would never think it would be in some sort of celebratory video.
	I mean, it sounds to me as though there's an awful lot of counterfeit bills out there.
	I think that...
	Well, here's what I've uncovered.
	There is a movement and there is a theory, a conspiracy of one...
	The 500 euro note.
	Now, if you go to Europe and you can say to anyone, do you have a 500 euro note?
	No one will have one.
	But there's, I think, 300 billion euros, some number like this, in 500 euro note denominations out there in circulation.
	And what some are saying is that the European Central Bank will basically call them null and void and say, look, the only people who use these 500-euro notes are criminals, so you can't use them anymore.
	It's done with.
	It's all over.
	And then they can actually take that 300 billion euros and put it back on their balance sheet.
	Because it's just a reserve note, right?
	They just say, oh, we've canceled that.
	Then they can take that $300 billion and put it right there on their sheet as an asset.
	Well, I mean, if they actually think they can pull that off.
	There's talk of it.
	And maybe this is part of it by saying, well, you know, counterfeiters, criminals, all that.
	And they never show the 500 or the 250 or the 100 euro note in this entire video, except at the very, very end, they have a fan, you know, like, and they fan out all the euro notes.
	But while, you know, you got the girl shopping, you've got her in the restaurant, they're showing 5, 10, 20s, and a 50.
	And that's it.
	They don't go above that.
	Yeah, I mean, there is a movement about this, this 500 euro note thing.
	Just say, hey, you know, it's only criminals anyway, so let's just call it a day and we'll just put that back on the balance sheet, which is kind of the missing piece that they need for the European Central Bank bazooka.
	Well, I would definitely help.
	$300 billion is nothing to sneeze at.
	Which is, you know, now we learn, you know, as a part of the Lisbon Treaty Charter, the European Central Bank can't actually help towards, in contrast to what Draghi just said there, can't help with the stability of the euro because they are not allowed to bail out banks and just print up money that way.
	So now we learn that the central banks...
	Foremost, the Federal Reserve are going to print up money and lend it to the International Monetary Fund, who then will give it to the banks.
	Yeah, the IMF did manage to worm its way back into the discussion.
	But that's crazy.
	We're going to be on the hook for money the Federal Reserve prints, gives it to the IMF, and then they give it to the banks.
	Yeah.
	That's not okay.
	Well, the IMF usually gets the money back.
	Yeah.
	Or they get islands and ships.
	Yeah, well, they get it back.
	They get assets.
	Cool stuff.
	Generally, at bargain basement prices.
	In terms of kind of a...
	I wouldn't call the IMF a criminal enterprise or racketeering, but if they were, they're good at it.
	Whitewashing, at the very least.
	Angela Merkel...
	Listen to one minute of Angela, what she's saying.
	The German Chancellor Angela Merkel has told the country's parliament, the Bundestag, that there's a need for more fiscal union in the Eurozone.
	She said EU treaty changes would be needed to introduce greater European powers.
	Yeah, like send all your taxes to Brussels.
	But dismissed criticism that Germany wanted to dominate Europe as misleading.
	She looks like...
	Who is in Deep Space Nine?
	Who is the alien kind of dude?
	Quark.
	Quark?
	You know with the big head?
	Who's always doing all the trading and stuff?
	One of the Ferengi?
	She looks like a Ferengi?
	Is that what you're saying?
	Yeah, she looks like Quark.
	With her hair?
	If you molded the hair into the head, she looks just like the Ferengi, like Quark.
	Saving the Euro would take years.
	The government's always made clear that the European crisis cannot be solved in one fell swoop overnight.
	There's no such thing as the one fell swoop solution here.
	There are no easy and fast solutions, especially not, as some people insist on saying ahead of every summit, one last push.
	The Chancellor said the ECB could not intervene like national central banks and again rejected the use of Eurobonds or any other collective guarantee of individual governments' debts.
	Whoever still hasn't understood that Eurobonds are no means of rescue for the crisis has not understood the essential nature of this crisis.
	Merkel called for sanctions for countries that failed to respect fiscal rules.
	On Monday, she's to meet President Sarkozy, who said yesterday that Europe had to be refounded with France and Germany at its heart to ensure stability.
	Yeah, that's worked out historically.
	That's a good idea.
	Get the French and the Germans.
	They'll run the place.
	That'll be great.
	Oh my goodness.
	It's fun.
	It's fun to watch.
	You know, what will the world actually look like when this all comes tumbling down, John?
	I mean, is it going to be like previous depressions?
	Or is it just going to be everyone's still going to have TV and we're all going to be kind of like happy and distracted?
	I mean, what is it going to be like?
	Well, that's a good question, but I can say that I know what it's going to be like afterwards.
	It's going to look like the old map of Europe.
	That wasn't a good question.
	It was not a good question.
	Really?
	I thought that was a good question.
	Play Pet Peeve.
	I got you.
	Oh, crap.
	And this whole business about ignoring what's going on, what are the legal implications?
	If I know somebody's harming a child, I have a responsibility morally.
	How about legally?
	Exactly.
	It's a great question.
	It's not a great question!
	Go, go, go, John, go.
	It's not a great question.
	He actually made a statement, and it wasn't a question at all.
	It's ridiculous that she would say this.
	Keep going.
	Don't stop.
	I'm done.
	I'm done.
	John C. DeVore acts pet peeve of the day.
	Did you see the New York Times interview with Sandusky, Pedo Bear, and Numero Uno?
	You know, I've given up on this clown.
	I mean, it's like...
	This guy, if they gave him a four-hour interview, it was the L.A. Times that did it.
	No, New York Times.
	I thought it was the L.A. Times.
	Well, no, New York Times.
	The New York Times probably, well, I mean, it's on the New York Times.
	Whatever the case, he talked for four hours and yacked away, and he's just apparently, like, he's really essentially 11 years old in his brain and an idiot.
	Well, here's the only 18 seconds that matter.
	If I say, no, I'm not attracted to boys, that's not the truth because I'm attracted to young people, boys, girls.
	Right, I enjoy...
	That's what I was trying to say.
	Yeah, I enjoy...
	Boys, girls, doesn't matter as long as they're under 12.
	Pedo bears.
	That's disgusting.
	That's so wrong, man.
	That guy's so dumb.
	Yeah.
	He's insane.
	It's obvious.
	He's insane.
	Yeah, well.
	Too many hits, too many concussions.
	So, where were we?
	You were saying something, and I said that was a good quote.
	Oh, yeah, Europe.
	All that happens is they have these shakeouts, and the next thing you know, they've redrawn the borders.
	And then maybe Alsace will go back to Germany, and the Savoie will be owned by somebody else, and the Italian lines will be moved, and they'll put the border.
	I mean, I don't see how this is going to work out.
	But when's it going to fall apart?
	I'm predicting that January is going to be the beginning of the end.
	UBS Warburg, big bank, had an interview or slash op-ed in the Wall Street Journal and the end of the article, Steck actually sent this to us, it says, quote, No modern fiat currency monetary unions have broken up without some form of authoritarian or military government or civil war.
	Hello.
	So who's it gonna be?
	Who's gonna fight who?
	Well, the French and the Germans are the ones that always end up fighting in the end, but if you remember the way World War I started, it was, you know, some France was assassinated, and then it snowballed, and the next thing you know, people started taking sides because they had too much pride not to, and it was just a fiasco, and then it devolved into trench warfare in France.
	The French always end up taking the brunt of this, and...
	It's got to be.
	Why would it be any different?
	I mean, I don't know what form this would take.
	Well, first of all, there's not going to be a trench war.
	We know that.
	It's going to be a drone war.
	There wasn't one in World War II either, but World War II was a bombing war.
	They were bombing the crap out of everything.
	Won't we have a drone war this time around?
	It could be a drone war.
	That would be kind of interesting.
	It's pretty advanced, though.
	I think a drone war is a few years off.
	I think it's going to start with...
	First of all, the war won't start until 2020.
	That would be based on the cycle of wars.
	So we're good for a while.
	But the antagonism would start to build.
	As of today, the French and the Germans do not feel like going to war with each other.
	They're happy.
	So it would take close to a decade of...
	Bogative propaganda on either side to get them to hate each other enough that they would actually start to kill each other.
	I'm kind of disagreeing because I feel the hate.
	You know, so there's a lot of hate against the Greek, the Greeks, first of all, which has been completely manufactured.
	You know, I know people in the Netherlands, I know people in England, and they just say, yeah, these Mediterranean, the Club Med, you know, which, of course, is a total derogatory term in this case.
	You know, they don't want to work, you know.
	You know, so there's hatred there, but they don't care because, you know, they're not going to be directly responsible.
	Right, and what you're saying is the hatred is already built up as soon as possible.
	It needs to be redirected.
	Yes, exactly.
	I think it's not that easy to redirect.
	I think it would take a while.
	And I think things have got to fall apart a little bit more than they've done.
	I mean, I think it's going to happen, but it's not tomorrow or the next day.
	I think the collapse of the euro and the depression could start, you know, this next year or the year after for sure.
	People who are eating, like, sugar beets and wood, you know, it's not hard to redirect their anger at a certain point.
	Yeah, there's not enough of them yet.
	No, no, no, no, not yet.
	But if the collapse comes and you don't have, like, Euronotes coming out of the ATM, people might get a little PO'd.
	Yeah, well...
	I think Germany's going to be the bad guy again.
	Germany's always the bad guy.
	It's a very successful script.
	It's been used over and over, and I think we should just do it again.
	Let's just call the Germans the bad guys again.
	Well, we could, you know, the French could always be, I mean, the French have produced Napoleon, a couple of them, and actually three iterations.
	Napoleon, the first, did a couple of nasty things in a row.
	After he got banished, he made a comeback.
	And then Napoleon III, Louis Napoleon, was not quite the same, but he was the one who tried to actually take over the southern part of the United States during the 1860s by sending a shop in Mexico waiting for the American Civil War to break the country in half so the French could take the bottom part and the English could take the top part.
	It was an international scheme.
	Yeah.
	So there's a tradition of this sort of thing with these countries, of scheming, and I don't see that ending, but I don't see the French re-militarizing, so I would probably subscribe to the Germany becoming the bad guys again.
	Right.
	We just need a better leader.
	Well, she's not going to be around for much.
	I mean, how long has she been in?
	She's going to be somebody after her.
	And it'll probably be some, you know, character who's a little more of a nutty.
	Right.
	Like, have a little mustache, maybe.
	A German with a mustache.
	I think we need a different meme.
	I don't think the mustache thing is going to go over too well.
	I think we've kind of seen that one.
	No.
	Let me check the book of knowledge and see how long she's been in.
	Yeah, you do that.
	Since 2005, she's been in for...
	Oh, she's been in.
	It's too long.
	Oh, past her due date.
	Yeah, November 22nd.
	Time for a new guy.
	Well, we'll see.
	Time is right.
	Isn't there some right-wing crazy guy in Germany that's running?
	It's got to be.
	Right-wing crazy.
	Just Google.
	Right-wing crazy German.
	Who's the top hit?
	Let's see what we get.
	Right-wing freaks out, blah, blah, blah.
	Republicans select a crazy right-wing southern Baptist hillbilly.
	This has got nothing to do with Germany.
	No, that's no good.
	In Germany, you're crazy right-wing.
	I was an asshole.
	Look at neo-Nazi Germany from the inside.
	Ex-mother-in-law sends crazy right-wing stuff to me.
	None of this is any good.
	So nobody's cropping up at the top of the hit list.
	Well, Angela may be very capable of growing a mustache.
	It's possible.
	Anyway, it's time once again, everybody, to play Win, Lose, or Drone!
	And today we want to welcome the University of Nebraska-Lincoln's College of Journalism to Win, Lose, or Drone!
	Because they've got it now!
	We're going to give a course in drone journalism on Win, Lose, or Drone!
	That's right!
	Drone journalism, soon to be a new class to be taught at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln's College of Journalism and Mass Communications.
	Definition of drone journalism is the use of unmanned aircraft to gather photos, video, and data for reporting.
	And they're going to teach you how to do this.
	Handy because you can have a secondary career.
	Flying little airplanes.
	If you can't get into a newspaper or a news outfit, then we have an alternative for you over here.
	This is a good find.
	I never spotted this one.
	It's good.
	This is brought to us by Daniel Wheaton.
	You know, the kid who did his...
	Right, he wrote a no-agenda paper to get himself graduated.
	Yeah, and I'm like, hey, dude, you've got to sign up for it.
	He's a master debater.
	Yeah, he is a master debater.
	I've been a master debater, too.
	Go on.
	Anyway, so he said...
	I thought the joke is standing alone without the...
	I didn't have to hit it.
	You're right.
	Well, there go the donations.
	You'll blame it all on my bad jokes.
	Right?
	Speaking of such, why don't we do a very short segment on that right now, because this is the program that takes no money from commercial interests or big companies, which is why we can report on anything.
	We don't take money from political action committees so we can call people out for the way we see them.
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	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
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	CNN makes up the news.
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	Go talk to Aaron Burnett about the...
	Ratings and rankings.
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	She's really going to get canceled.
	Because, you know, they bring in Ann Burnett thinking that she'll bring in all these cool people.
	That's why they do it.
	That's why they got, you know, Pierce Morgan.
	Yeah.
	You know, bring cool people on.
	But she didn't know anybody.
	No, she doesn't.
	And she's, you know, people that are in the Council on Foreign Relations.
	Well, she does that, yeah.
	And so she comes in, but she doesn't carry, she doesn't have the personality to run this type of show.
	No.
	You know, it's the Aaron Burnett on the news or something, and it's just weak.
	I mean, I like her.
	She's great as kind of a little bit of a goofy, kind of bumbling, cute sidekick.
	She's got a nice style, very pleasant.
	Yeah, she's a sidekick.
	But it's not aggressive enough for what she's trying to do.
	She's in over her head.
	It's the only way I can say it.
	Or she's being misdirected.
	She might have a really great idea of how to do this show and she's not being allowed to do it.
	Also, the framing of her shot is not right.
	Have you noticed this?
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	It's just a talking head.
	They're doing that all wrong.
	They need to call the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group so we can make some money.
	Yeah, they do.
	We're not making as much money.
	Luckily, we do have people that support us.
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	Several episodes ago, you guys played a clip of Gene Simmons from Kiss, and Adam said he had a Gene Simmons story but never spilled the beans.
	Do you think we'll get more donations if I tell my Gene Simmons story?
	Well, I don't know.
	Is it a good story?
	It's kind of okay.
	Well, tell it.
	So Gene Simmons at MTV, in the MTV days when I was there, he was managing bands.
	And...
	What's notorious at MTV, and I've said this many times, is your video didn't really get played because it was good.
	It was a deal.
	If we wanted Michael Jackson on the Video Music Awards, then whatever Sony pushed on us, we'd play that in the so-called buzz bin, which is supposed to be this hip little thing, which of course only played at 2 a.m., So Gene Simmons, being kind of the brash guy that he is, he could not get one of his bands played, so he burst into the music, and I used to be at the music meetings until I found out that it was a total scam.
	He burst in with knee pads on, jumps up on the table and says, who do I have to blow to get my video on this network?
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	We've got to give Gregory his karma.
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	You've been de-douching.
	Shed that skin of doucheness.
	He also needs a karma shot for his amazing and beautiful girlfriend, Erica, because she is living the American dream of just getting by.
	Oh, that's fantastic, Erica.
	We love that.
	You've got karma.
	Especially your president.
	And he reiterates the fact that we have the best podcasts in the universe.
	Yeah.
	You can play that theme, Best Podcast of the Yacht.
	Yeah.
	Okay, never mind.
	AJ Tissier and Normal.
	Normal, I say.
	Illinois, 5123.
	Not sure where I came up with the amount, but karma's always welcome.
	The holidays are a trying time financially and mentally.
	Best Podcast in the Universe!
	Right on cue.
	He needs a karma shot.
	Okay.
	You've got karma.
	And you might as well roll out the karma for Barry Kroger.
	He needs a shot at karma for his family in Greeley, Colorado, $50.
	You've got karma.
	And you might as well roll out a karma shot for John Godwin in Sandy Hook, Virginia, if you know what I mean.
	$50.
	Karma, please, I'm up for a raise at work this week.
	I'm taking no chances.
	That's a good policy, I'd say.
	You've got karma.
	Anonymous in Tauchester, Northamshire.
	Anonymous donation this time, please.
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	Hi, John Anonymous.
	You know I've been a regular donor for a few years now and I'm a No Agenda producer since show one.
	Boom.
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	Yeah.
	So I figured a little karma might help.
	Yeah.
	It would be good.
	Come back on Thursday, please.
	Wow.
	We've got karma.
	Okay.
	Meanwhile, he makes this comment, Great hair, Adam.
	I hope you win.
	Yeah, that's a throwback to the Daily Source Code.
	Sean Pyle in Streamwood, Illinois at 50 bucks.
	Hey guys, just a reminder that vaccines make great stocking stuffers.
	Per a recent email from Doctors Without Borders, I know I can't wait to tiptoe down the fireplace or to the fireplace on Christmas morning and stick my head in the stocking.
	Feeling the jolly prick of vaccine-laden hypodermic needles jab my sticky candy cane-covered fingers.
	Nothing says the holidays like a possible epilepsy-inducing vaccine without the possibility of legal resource against the manufacturer.
	Take care.
	Signed, Sean.
	What is this link that he sent?
	Australian journalist wins prestigious award for exposing flu vaccine scandal.
	Yeah, we'll put that on the show notes.
	Yeah.
	And that's all we got in today's miserable show.
	It's pretty pathetic.
	But we want to thank everybody who did help us to an extreme and also the people who gave lesser amounts.
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	Yeah, what do you spend to go to a theater to watch a lousy movie?
	Yeah, and let's face it, a lot of movies these days are pretty lousy.
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	Special Knight Karma request expressed.
	Sir Rory Stone, a knight in need of some karma for his mother.
	My mom is getting back-fused today.
	Didn't we do this one?
	I don't remember it.
	Well, in case we didn't, let's make sure we do it again.
	I think we did it on the last show.
	It doesn't matter.
	Getting her back fused.
	We'll be in bed for about 10 weeks.
	Remember this?
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	So there you go, man.
	Absolutely right.
	Well, I guess a double then.
	We've got karma.
	We do everything we can for our nights, because if you look at the list, it's the nights who come through with donations when the going's tough, when the going's slow.
	And we are going to induct a new night to the No Agenda Roundtable today.
	See if you can grab your blade there, John.
	Hold on.
	There you go.
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	As we'll be slipping on an official No Agenda Night ring, the kind you can use to hit people in the mouth and leave the No Agenda logo in perfect image on the face.
	Because of your donations up to $1,000, we hereby pronounce the Sir A.J. Tissier, Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	If you come on over and sit down, we've got some hookers and blow for you.
	Rent boys, Chardonnay, as you're choosing.
	Or if you want, hot pants and booze.
	It's all here with the rest of the Knights.
	And at the end of today's program, we have another interview with one of our Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable.
	As Maynard, our buddy there in Down Under, Gitmo Nation Down Under, interviews Sir Matthew of Melbourne.
	In our continuing series of interviews with the Knights.
	And it's a good one.
	So, I like that.
	I like that Maynard's doing that.
	Maynard's a great guy.
	He really is.
	He really is an awesome guy.
	And he's got like a job, you know.
	He's got all kinds of...
	He works for ABC, Australian Broadcasting.
	Yeah, he's got a real gig and still he finds time to help us out.
	And I really like that.
	That's cool.
	He probably gets material from us.
	Oh, yeah.
	You know that he's doing his show.
	It's like, Hey, everybody!
	It's Maynard Down Under!
	How you doing, everybody?
	You know, he's like completely replicating the show.
	Yeah.
	Whatever.
	Did you get this note about Fukushima?
	You probably went, oh brother, and rolled your eyes, right?
	I went, oh brother, and rolled my eyes.
	Yeah.
	So this guy, Jim Stone, and he posted, I completely missed this, but I love it.
	He is asserting, and I only got this this morning, so I haven't had a chance to really dive into it, but I do like the theory.
	He's saying that it's possible...
	That the Fukushima reactor, and of course I always said that this was an earthquake machine and this was not a natural occurrence, he says that it was probably an act of war and they set off a nuke because, and this was indirectly related to Israel because Japan was creating uranium, what do you call it?
	What did he do with uranium?
	Processing uranium for Iran.
	It's a stretch.
	He's got a lot of interesting...
	What I like is he talks about this outfit that went down there to take pictures with these really crazy cameras.
	Let me see what the camera...
	Here it is.
	Magna BSP. Is the name of the outfit, who went down to take pictures of the reactors before this all happened, but the camera, it looks like some kind of laser gun.
	The owl is what it's called, which he says is actually a nuclear weapon.
	And then he goes into all kinds of, you know, he has all kinds of data about the earthquake that it really wasn't, there was no way it was a 9.0 earthquake.
	I'm liking this theory.
	Yeah, you would.
	Yeah, well, you can scoff me for all you want, but we know that earthquake machines exist.
	We have that statement.
	So, you know, you can't...
	From the United Nations.
	No, from our very own Secretary of Defense, Cohen.
	Okay.
	So it's not just United Nations.
	It's our Secretary of Defense.
	He said that other countries have that.
	It's called the Magna BSP Owl?
	Yes.
	Magna appears to be a detection company.
	They detect things.
	Yeah.
	They're a detection analysis company.
	Yeah.
	It's always those guys.
	There's a bunch of these characters.
	Yeah.
	Do you see the owl?
	Do you see the gun?
	I'm not finding it.
	I'm on their website.
	Okay.
	Oh, brother, I just opened up a PDF. Thanks for nothing.
	I hate it when that happens.
	I'm doing a broadcast here.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Trying up all my bandwidth.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, I'm glad...
	You also notice when you start opening a PDF, you can't stop it.
	You can't say, no, no, no, I don't want this.
	I don't want to wait all day for this PDF. No, you have to just hit the back button, I think.
	No.
	Oh, really?
	You can't stop it.
	You're doomed.
	Doomed anyway.
	So I'm glad that one of our producers there brought up some vaccine stuff because this is an amazing report.
	And I think we need to dissect this a little bit, because the World Health Organization, our buddies over there who created the previous fake pandemic scare, which brought in millions, tens, hundreds of millions of vaccines around the world, bought up by governments, Big bonanza for the large pharmaceutical companies.
	And, of course, killing people in the process of use and without any recourse.
	It's certainly not in the United States of Gitmo Nation.
	But now the Chinas are getting in on the act.
	And the world should get ready for a new made-in-China product, vaccines.
	The country's vaccine makers are gearing up to push exports in a move that should lower the cost of life-saving immunizations for the world's poor and provide major competition for the big Western pharmaceutical companies.
	The process was given a boost earlier this year when the World Health Organization announced China's Drug Safety Authority meets international standards for vaccine regulation.
	Helen Yang represents the Chinese firm Sinovac.
	I believe that many companies will have high expectations now that China's FDA has passed the WHO's pre-qualification.
	I'm sure many companies from our sector will go to the WHO to register their products.
	Once our products are approved by the WHO, it will be much easier to register and export our products abroad.
	Sinovac had captured world attention in 2009 when it developed the first effective vaccine against swine flu in just 87 days.
	I didn't know that.
	Yeah, I didn't know that.
	Did you know this?
	No.
	The company's now testing a new vaccine for a virus that causes severe hand, foot, and mouth disease among children in Asia.
	No.
	Wait a minute.
	Hand, foot, and mouth disease is something that cows get and sheep and horses.
	And now it's like, now kids can get hand, foot, and mouth disease?
	You don't think that this whole publicity and the whole Chinese thing has anything to do whatsoever since they're now in cahoots with the WHO. The fact that the WHO is run by this Cretan Margaret Chan from Hong Kong.
	China, yeah.
	She's the one who called that was, you know, it's going to be a pandemic.
	She used the word.
	Well, not only that, they restated what a pandemic was.
	Yeah, she redefined it and then called it.
	Yeah.
	And panicked everybody.
	There were lines all over the place for people to get shots.
	Oh, I'm going to die.
	Yeah.
	Well, now it's great.
	Now we're getting our China stuff.
	Get your shots from China.
	Yeah, I'm sure the quality will be nothing but the best.
	So I wonder if the China companies will also be indemnified, or will you be able to sue them?
	You won't be able to find them if you had to sue them.
	They just go down the street.
	Gone.
	All right.
	Well, cool.
	I'll be waiting for that.
	I'm sure the Chinese court system is really amenable to civil lawsuits.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, put everything in China.
	You don't have to worry about it.
	So I'm looking at this MagnaBSP website, and they got the scopes, the stereoscopic passive electro-optic radar, which is like a stick.
	And you put it up as a smaller stereoscopic passive electro-optic radar system in the world which detects and recognizes targets immediately with negligible false alarms.
	It's a one-man radar.
	This is very interesting stuff.
	Well, the owl, so that's the hawk that you're looking at, the Q-hawk.
	No, it's the scops.
	Oh, okay, I'm seeing the Q-hawk.
	This is a thing that sits on the ground on a tripod and apparently can see everything.
	It's a little radar.
	The OWL line of products has a virtual wall capability that enables the system to virtually seal a desired region with or without a physical fence.
	The OWL system...
	Wow.
	I like these guys.
	The OWL system is fully passive with advanced tracking abilities and is operational day and night under all weather conditions.
	The system constantly processes the scanning zone, looking for changes in 3D visualizations in the scenery.
	When a change occurs, the system estimates the intruder parameters based on user-predefined filters and sounds an alarm.
	Yeah.
	This is an Israeli operation.
	That's my point.
	It was the Israelis who went in and created the earthquake and blew it all up.
	They didn't create an earthquake.
	They created a tsunami.
	Oh, I got the PDF too now.
	You're right.
	The only thing you can do is close the tab.
	Only the Israelis try to pull that crap with a PDF. Trying to blow up my computer with a PDF. Scops.
	2006, a system was selected to provide perimeter protection for the Ben-Gurion airport scheduled for fielding as perimeter protection for military facilities in Israel.
	This is a news story on the passive EO radar.
	What is this thing?
	Well, you know, some years back, a number of Silicon Valley companies, and I think one perfected it, and there's also a perfected gyroscope on a chip.
	There's also radar on a chip.
	That's why the Fords, the more recent Fords, like the Focus, you can buy the car with radar, you know, chips all around the thing, and it'll park the car, and if you get anywhere near something, it beeps at you.
	Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.
	You're getting too close and it shows you a little radar image around the perimeter of the car because these chips have become so cheap, little radar chips, that you can use them in all kinds of different things.
	So I guess these guys are exploiting them for military purposes.
	But, I mean, I always thought that these radar chips are going to find all kinds of uses.
	I mean, that's what the Mercedes has on their car that'll stop the car for you, which is a big debate amongst the car makers.
	I've talked to them about these radar chips, and, you know, the Mercedes, if you're going to ram into a truck, The car sees the truck coming and it just slams on the brakes and you will not hit.
	And Ford says, well, you know, we give you a lot of warnings, but we don't like the idea of taking it because you might be, maybe you want to ram the truck.
	Maybe you want to ram the truck.
	Right.
	But so there's like a big debate about it, but these chips are going to start showing up in almost everything.
	I wonder if they're going to be expensive.
	It's a chip.
	It's got to be at some point.
	It's a silicon.
	I guess it's a CMOS radar.
	I mean, with the circuitry around it to make it work, I'm sure it's not cheap, but at the same time, the chip itself can't cost more than a few bucks.
	Hmm.
	Anyway, it's interesting.
	Well, they're creating high output radar, so they could probably warm up a portion of the ocean.
	Well, they got the one here.
	It's pretty...
	Well, I think...
	Yeah, I don't know.
	I don't know how these...
	Now I'm curious.
	I want to...
	You got to read this article.
	It's in the show notes.
	Magnet system includes a range of static panoramic sensor poles, each carrying two stereoscopic or four quadroscopic sensors, two thermal IR and two CCD. This is just a visual thing.
	And then they got radar somehow hooked in with that.
	I don't know.
	Looks like a periscope to me.
	Whatever.
	Hmm.
	New stuff.
	Do they have a tab that says new stuff?
	No, I'm just looking at this.
	This just looks weird.
	Anyway.
	Hold on.
	Oh, here it is.
	This is his thing on...
	Weight over 1,000 pounds, the size and shape of the gun-type nuclear weapons.
	The reason Magna BSP gave for the odd shape, enormous weight, and giant proportions of their cameras was that they were stereoscopic.
	Certainly creatively called them biscopic when you search on their site.
	Type bioscopic camera into Google images.
	Okay.
	This helps marketing, I guess.
	He says, the need for such large stereoscopic camera would be plausible at an airstrip.
	But he says, other manufacturers have units appropriate for interfocal lengths, which are twice the size of ordinary monocular security cameras, depth perception going miles.
	Magnet does not make passive radar systems, which require a large body, but the OWL could accomplish.
	So he's saying that these radar systems could do this.
	Bioscopic camera.
	Do you look at the...
	I'm looking, and all I guess is a bunch of old stuff from the turn of the century.
	There's all kinds of, apparently, bioscopic cameras go back in time, because I'm looking at a bioscopic camera that looks like it's from about 1890.
	I just clicked on images.
	Right.
	Do you see that thing on the first one, bsp.jpg?
	Which is from MagnaBSP.com.
	Look at that thing.
	It's like a rocket ship.
	I've got bioscopic.
	Oh, wait a minute.
	I spilled it.
	I got bioscopic.
	Oh, that thing.
	Holy crap.
	Okay.
	Fuck it.
	That thing's huge.
	That looks like a Tesla coil.
	It doesn't look right.
	No.
	Well, they have this other word that I've never seen before.
	Apparently, there's a bunch of imagers.
	They're using imagers more than radar, so I'm wrong about that.
	At least not this stuff.
	And they have a thing called a bolometer camera.
	So I've got to look at bolometer.
	I've never heard that word.
	Bolometer.
	Into Google.
	Wikipedia.
	I looked at Book of Knowledge.
	It's got it.
	Consulting.
	A bolometer is a device for measuring the power of incident electromagnetic radiation via the heating of a material with a temperature-dependent electrical resistance.
	It was invented in 1878 by the American astronomer Samuel Langley, where Langley was named.
	The name comes from the Greek word boli, for something thrown, or bolo, as in ray of light.
	Huh.
	Well...
	I don't know.
	Hot electron bolometer.
	Creates cryogenic temperatures.
	Oh, operates at cryogenic temperatures.
	For greater sensitivity.
	Wow.
	Crazy.
	Crazy, crazy stuff.
	These guys must have a huge budget to do this sort of research.
	Yeah.
	Well, if you're selling earthquake machines to people, you can make a couple bucks.
	It's good stuff.
	Hot electron ballometer.
	That's something else we need to look into.
	I just got turned on when you said that.
	Hey, baby, I got a hot electron ballometer here for you.
	Is that a bellometer you've got in your pants or are you just happy to see me?
	Here's Julian Assange as we switch gears.
	Barking on the development of our new whistleblowing source protection platform.
	Do you have a whistleblowing source protection platform in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
	We undertook a research effort to see what really is the state of the art in international surveillance systems.
	We pulled in these groups here to help us with that effort.
	And the findings are really quite remarkable.
	I have been working in studying this industry ten years ago, and I have kept my eye on it since.
	Wait for it.
	In-depth investigation that we have performed shows it is not this relatively small, although still measured in the billions of dollars industry it was 10 years ago.
	9-11 has provided a license for European countries, for United States, Australia, Canada, South Africa and others to develop spying systems that affect all of us.
	So, who here has an iPhone?
	Who here has a Blackberry?
	Who here uses Gmail?
	Well, you're all screwed.
	He's doing stand-up now.
	Yeah, he's got a million of them.
	He'll be here all the week.
	Yeah, he says that there's, and of course it's true, he says there's so many contractors out there and are just selling stuff to any government that wants it, you know, you can go and snoop all this stuff.
	I'm sure you've been following that, what's the name of that company, that QIR company that everyone's been talking about there in Silicon Valley?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	You got any take on that?
	Not yet.
	I don't have it.
	It's not good.
	No, I don't have it because I've got...
	I was too busy with this story.
	So visitors to Portland are sometimes surprised to learn that it's a possible contender for the title of the lewdest place in America.
	It has more strip clubs per head than any other city.
	In this compact downtown, sex shops are scattered amid the bookstores, coffee shops, and social services.
	Apparently, everyone in Portland is a stripper.
	One of the results is that Portland has been a leader in what might be described as the small but growing industry for ethical adult entertainment.
	I like it.
	Ethical adult.
	There's a vegan, vegan, vegan strip club, for example.
	Another owned by a cattle rancher.
	Stop, stop, stop.
	Back up.
	Wait a minute.
	A vegan strip club.
	What is that?
	That means only vegans are stripping.
	Is that a pole or the stripper?
	I can't quite tell.
	Oh, God.
	This, to me, is like, this is important stuff.
	Your stripper is gluten-free.
	Yes.
	Honey, eat a steak.
	Really, a vegan strip club.
	Wait, this can't be true.
	Look it up.
	In Portland, Oregon?
	Yeah, duh.
	Vegan strip club.
	I want to know the name of it.
	Portland.
	I'm going.
	I know somebody up there in Portland.
	Portland opens first vegan strip club.
	It's true.
	Oh my goodness.
	It's called Casa Diablo.
	No way.
	Oh, there's a video.
	Wait, wait, wait.
	Let's listen to the news report.
	A local news...
	Oh, this video has been removed by the user.
	Ah, Bogative.
	I hate that.
	Yeah, it's a real shame.
	The world's first vegan strip club in the world, y'all.
	It's mind-boggling how no one's thought of this concept before.
	We know that whenever we go get a lap dance, we instinctively get peckish for some pan-fried tofu.
	I tell you, the girl in the video on the advertisement looks pretty good.
	Hey, they're hiring dancers now.
	Call Johnny.
	503-222-6603.
	Hey, just call Johnny.
	Auditions every day from 3 to 7 p.m.
	Casa Diablo.
	Oh, really?
	Free pool and free lunch.
	I'm going to go take a dip.
	Wow.
	You're right, John.
	Screw anything else.
	That's important stuff.
	Yeah.
	I'm bummed about that video being...
	Well, there's probably another copy of it somewhere.
	Yeah, it seems like there's tons of them.
	I guess that was a big deal.
	Hmm.
	So, in other news, on the blog, Dvorak.org slash blog, so you can find that story and others.
	Apparently, Alabama police keep arresting Japanese managers of the Honda and Toyota factories for being illegal aliens or something.
	Which has got everybody all irked.
	Yeah.
	Other than that, I do have a couple more clips.
	Yeah, let's roll them.
	If you're interested, let me get to the...
	How about bullying?
	I got a lot of response to my rant on bullying.
	I got the bullying clip, which is an ad.
	It's a public service announcement I ran into.
	And by the way, if you want to catch a lot of weird public service announcements, and you have the Dish Network, right?
	No.
	Oh, you have cable?
	What are you doing now?
	I can't afford cable.
	I got internet and I got Netflix.
	We're getting in the last show.
	I can't afford 200 bucks a month.
	It's pretty expensive.
	Well, anyway, the Dish Network has the Pentagon channel.
	And they play public service announcements like there's no tomorrow.
	I don't know where this one actually came from, but I picked it up off of one of the stations in the morning.
	Sorry.
	And this is the bullying ad, the anti-bullying ad.
	I'm Demi Lovato.
	Join me to stomp out bullying.
	I was bullied so I know how much it hurts.
	Are you or someone you know being bullied?
	Do you know a bully?
	Be kind, be brave, and be courageous and report it.
	Don't be silent.
	The best way to stomp out bullying is to never let it start.
	Stomp out bullying now.
	Visit Love Our Children USA at www.loveourchildrenusa.org.
	It's the cool thing to do.
	Isn't this kind of a violent approach?
	Isn't this a bullying approach to stomping out bullying?
	Stomping out bullying?
	It is so.
	This angers me.
	When I was a kid, and I get to say that now as I approach the 5-0 mark, If someone, you know, my parents would actually tell me, you know, I remember I was bullied as a kid, they say, and then one day I went up and I popped him in the nose.
	Yes, I got the same story from my dad.
	Yeah, see, that's the American way.
	It's like, you know, eventually you just get mad enough and you just pop him in the nose, right?
	That's the story.
	Who came up with this story?
	I don't know.
	You got the same one.
	I actually got into a fight with a bully, but it was like a joke.
	And I popped him in the nose, but it was not because it didn't solve anything.
	It was just an accident.
	But I do have a friend who actually beat the crap out of a bully, and it turned out that the bully at the time he was beating the crap out of him was dying of some disease anyway, and he wasn't going to be able to fight back.
	But no, I think this whole bullying thing is not about bullying at all.
	It's about the First Amendment rights and the fact that they're just trying to keep people from talking about anything.
	This is a step in the wrong direction.
	I'm trying to see if I can find the history of...
	LoveOurChildrenUSA.org.
	Keeping children safe, strengthening families.
	This looks like some sort of a national non-profit leader, go-to prevention organization, fighting all forms of violence and neglect.
	I remember I got bullied at the bus stop when I was about eight, and my parents put me in judo classes.
	Then you've got to learn to...
	Judo is not an aggressive...
	No, it's a defensive strategy.
	Right, but I could at least duck and cover.
	Track and field is your best bet.
	You know, you get really fast.
	When I was a little kid in Chicago, I used to hang out with a guy who knew jujitsu.
	We're talking fourth grader who was really good because we would be roaming around and some kids would try to jump us and he'd just flip them.
	And then we'd run up some steps into some relative's house that he knew.
	But I remember one time being at some park.
	Roaming around with the guy and some kids, a little gang of kids.
	Look at those kids.
	They don't belong here.
	Let's get them.
	Right.
	And they started running at us and we just ran like fast as we could and we outran them.
	So that seems like to be what most kids would have to go through.
	What are you going to do?
	You bullies shouldn't be hitting me or punch these kids.
	There's a gang of kids.
	There's a bunch of them.
	So what is the definition of bullying?
	This is irksome.
	Definition of bullying.
	Okay.
	Oh, wait.
	This is tfk.org.
	What is this?
	And isn't it when you're in a good debate, isn't that if you're a good debater, a master debater, aren't you bullying the competition?
	I mean, where does it end?
	Well, it ends in you not being...
	If you're in a college class and you know all the answers, you're a big know-it-all, and somebody answers something stupid and you ridicule them with your correct answer, is that bullying?
	Yeah, I guess so.
	You're not allowed to say anything anymore.
	Definition of bully, archaic, a blustering, brow-beating person.
	That's a bully.
	One habitually cruel to others who are weaker.
	That's half the bosses I've ever worked with.
	Really?
	How about our government?
	Yeah, the government.
	A bunch of bullies.
	Here, bully to bully a verb.
	Okay, what does the verb say?
	I get a pop-up ad from Netflix, really?
	Webster, Merriam, Merriam-Webster, whatever your name is.
	To treat abusively, to affect by means of force or coercion.
	Okay, well, you're not allowed...
	It was always very clear with my parents.
	You had words and sticks and stones will break my bones, words will never hurt me, and then you had assault and battery, and it was very clear.
	Yeah, there's a big difference.
	Yeah.
	And the sticks and stones thing seems to have gone by the wayside.
	Yeah, you can't...
	I mean, yeah, where'd that go?
	Where did that go?
	My daughter, you know, she was here just before Thanksgiving.
	She was saying, I really got bullied.
	And at a certain point, I didn't even tell you guys about how bad I got bullied.
	Oh, I think girls get bullied more than guys do amongst themselves because they're always, you know, the mean girls in school, the insiders, they're always picking on the other girls.
	But it's all just talk.
	It's not like a...
	Throughout all my school, I've only seen one actual cat fight, and it was in largely a Latino school where our school was being finished, a high school in the South Bay.
	It was Logan High, which was mostly Mexican kids, and there's two Mexican girls went at it, and it was like something to watch, I'm telling you.
	Yeah, it was hot.
	But that was the only time, you know, they're always yelling at each other, but that's the only time I've ever seen any actual physical.
	Meanwhile, guys are having fights constantly.
	Hmm.
	Well, it's not good.
	I mean, if I were the president, I mean, the number one thing I'd say, you know, it's like, sure, we've got to have better education for our kids, but how would we not make them into pussies?
	You know?
	It's like, don't get pushed around.
	I mean, that's one of the core values that you can give to a kid.
	It's like, hey, you know, if someone's talking smack, talk smack back.
	Don't be afraid and don't go running to the police.
	Or to the anti-bully squad, whatever it is.
	You know, Facebook bullying.
	Yeah, that's what kids do.
	Facebook bullying.
	Yeah, that's big.
	Facebook bullying.
	What is Facebook bullying?
	You say something nasty on Facebook and everyone snickers behind your back?
	What is it exactly?
	They like it.
	They click on like.
	John, you're ugly looking and you have, you know, Eddie Murphy.
	Eddie Murphy, his Constitution Hall, he'd be like, kids be so mean.
	Like, you can't have an ice cream because your daddy is on the welfare and he's an alcoholic.
	You know, that's what kids used to do back in the day.
	And now they do it on Facebook.
	I'm like, yeah, daddy's on the welfare.
	Click the like button.
	But it doesn't mean that you should be arrested for doing that.
	Facebook bullying.
	Well, I'm glad I don't have young kids anymore.
	I have to deal with all that crap.
	It's a school with bullying.
	Please.
	Yeah.
	Well, as we've already talked about on the show, it's all about just taking away First Amendment rights.
	You can't say anything.
	Can't say anything about anybody.
	You're bullying.
	Hey, you know, why don't we call out some of these candidates for bullying?
	Hey, man, you're bullying Rick Perry for being an idiot.
	You can't say that about...
	Well, Fox is bullying Ron Paul.
	Thank you.
	We should call the bullying squad.
	Yeah, they should arrest Fox.
	Fox News.
	But apparently...
	But see, the way they're slipping this in is...
	And talk about bullying.
	I mean, if you ever watch the O'Reilly show, my God.
	Yeah.
	All that guy does is try to intimidate everyone who comes on.
	But the way they're playing this is only if you're gay.
	That's how it works.
	Like, they're bullying you, and if they're bullying you because you just happen to be gay, which is what they always...
	He just happens to be gay.
	That's when it's not okay.
	But, you know, everyone's weird in some way.
	I got bullied all my life.
	I got Tourette's.
	I had the wrong hair, the wrong clothes.
	Everything was wrong.
	Here I am, very successful.
	Yeah, and everything's the same.
	I turned out great.
	You still have Tourette's, you still have weird hair, and you still have crappy clothes.
	I mean, what's new?
	And no career to speak of.
	This is great.
	But now, of course, it's like a stopped clock.
	You know, it's everything you do.
	Oh, man.
	All right.
	Do something else for me.
	What else we got here?
	Let's see.
	I see you have an Egypt clip.
	Let me help you into it.
	Turns out...
	This is the Egypt clip.
	This is the one where the guys...
	Apparently, they're shooting rubber bullets at people and blinding them.
	And so I'm listening to this storm saying, this story doesn't...
	There's some element in here that doesn't make a lot of sense.
	Once again...
	I came here yesterday at night because I was at TEDxYouth Cairo and then I heard about what's happening so I came directly.
	I went home and I waited for my parents so they can come and they approved and they came with me and the three of us came here.
	We met lots of people who were very injured.
	Our friends, our families were injured and I went to the front lines.
	I checked what's happening.
	It was awful.
	The CS gas is horrible.
	It's uglier than ever.
	It's the worst.
	Yeah.
	What other kinds of weapons are they using?
	They're using the rubber bullets and the other kind of bullets that flourishes in the air and stuff.
	And it hurts lots of people.
	Like, you know, Malik Mustafa, the activist, he lost his eye.
	Several other people lost their eyes.
	And actually, the revolutionary people who were injured in Jan 25, they also got injured.
	Like, there was one guy who had lost his eye, and he lost his other eye yesterday.
	So he had both his eyes lost.
	It's important for...
	So, you go to this thing, and a rubber bullet blinds you, it blows your eyeball out.
	Or both of them, apparently.
	So you go back?
	Hey, can I have another?
	And the other thing is about these blinding rubber bullets, which I'm sure they would do that if you got hit in the face, even though they try to shoot, they usually shoot at your feet.
	Yeah, arms, feet, legs, yeah.
	Well, they shoot at the ground and you're supposed to, you know, just get you all.
	In America, though, at our protest here.
	Well, maybe they should write your face in Egypt.
	It wouldn't surprise me.
	No, they do that here in America, too.
	But the point is, where are the people wearing goggles?
	If I'm going to one of these riots or something like that, I'm going to have goggles or something, some eye protection.
	Right.
	So if they shoot me with rubber bullets, at least the goggles will absorb some of the impact.
	Nobody's wearing goggles.
	So I'm wondering how much...
	You know, I don't know.
	Maybe I'm assuming there are people getting blinded, but...
	I think we should start a new thing.
	Goggles for Egypt.
	I mean, who needs to get blinded at a demonstration?
	Well, apparently, our presidential administration spent $200 million on the elections in Egypt...
	What?
	Yeah, the USAID spent $200 million in economic development and also to train Egypt's political parties.
	$100 million!
	What, how to do flyers and pamphlets?
	And $65 million...
	This is Stephen McInerney, Executive Director of the Project of Middle East Democracy, told Campaign and Elections magazine $65 million went to Egypt after the uprising that toppled President Hosni Mubarak.
	An additional $100 million was earmarked for economic development.
	And this all came from USAID. Isn't that our money?
	That's $200 million.
	That's a quarter of what it takes to become president.
	So you think there's some meddling going on?
	You think that they want to bring someone in like El Baraday?
	I don't know.
	It doesn't sound right.
	By the way, just quickly back to Carrier IQ. I guarantee you this will be a...
	Are you on Twit today?
	Yeah, it's at Carrier IQ. Are you on Twit today?
	Yes, I'm on Twit today.
	Okay, so when it comes up, here's what I want you to say.
	Because it's going to come up.
	It's like, hey, Carrier IQ. Please ask.
	It will.
	Who else is on the show?
	I don't know.
	So whoever is on you say, so why is no one upset about Echelon and the government tracking you and listening to all your phone calls and putting GPS devices on your car and just reading your emails?
	Why is no one so upset?
	Why are we all upset about carrier IQ? This is the real distraction.
	Carrier IQ, bad Silicon Valley company.
	No, your government is the bad company.
	They're the bad actors in this.
	This is what irks me.
	It's all this press about Carrier IQ, but no one talking about what your government is actually doing to you.
	Okay.
	Could you please do that?
	Oh, yeah.
	And then please take along this jingle.
	I know you've been wanting to play it.
	Yes.
	So I've been following a couple of things.
	One of the things is the internet tax.
	They want to tax the internet.
	Mm-hmm.
	And the other one is this SOPA and the IP, Protect IP and all the rest of these bills that are trying to, the guys that shut down websites say, oh, we don't like what they're doing, shut them down, and you have to do that, right?
	Mm-hmm.
	So I got some stooge from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce who seems to be all for these laws.
	I thought this was kind of an odd one.
	And the funny thing is this was on NewsHour with Gwen Ifill who's never asked a hard question in her life.
	She sits there and just soaks up whatever they say and goes on to the next.
	She's the worst.
	She has no...
	She's not an aggressive interviewer in the least, and this actually irks me to no end.
	So play the servers are hard to find that clip, and tell me what you think.
	If we can find who's behind the website, and if they're in the United States, yes, they're breaking U.S. law.
	In fact, they're breaking international law.
	And those remedies are available and enforceable.
	The problem is, even if the website is registered here with a.com or.net address, the operator, the servers, may be anywhere in the world, and they may be very hard to find.
	Let me see.
	Traceroute.
	Ever heard of that, idiot?
	Hard to find.
	How is a server with a DNS address, obviously, hard to find?
	Oh my goodness.
	Well, let's try it out in action, John.
	Here we go.
	I'll show you how it works.
	So, if we do a lookup, if we actually do dig, no agenda...
	Show.com.
	We should be in the Chamber of Commerce.
	Answer section 204.232.137.207.
	So we take that and then we say trace route.
	And then we hit that.
	And trace route command not found.
	Oh, crap.
	Stupid Mac.
	Macs.
	Macs.
	I misspelled it.
	We have a winner.
	Here we go.
	I misspelled it.
	Okay.
	It's 64 hops.
	Of course, I'm behind an N-A-T. No wonder you got it.
	No wonder this sounds...
	It's already timing out at my firewall.
	But anyway, that's how you do it.
	It's not that hard.
	Well, you know, you could assume that there's some smarties out there that can bounce it around so much that you never really find where the guy's originating from because he's going through all sorts of hoops.
	But this is about these websites that have fake Rolexes.
	How many of these guys give a crap to go through any of that?
	They just set up shop in Indonesia or Malaysia or Nevada and they start selling their stuff until they shut them down or somebody comes knocking at the door and then they just move on to the next one.
	But it's not that they're hard to find.
	No.
	This guy's an idiot.
	And the fact that Glen Ivel lets that thing go right by her.
	Oh, they're hard to find.
	Why are they hard to find?
	Ask him.
	Why are they hard to find?
	Don't they have an IP address?
	And doesn't it have to be registered somewhere because there is someone that is delivering this IP address to the person?
	Or if the person actually owns the IP address directly from ICON or wherever they're going to get a bank of IP addresses, don't we know who these people are?
	Can we look them up?
	You can actually find their phone number.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	It's like a crap.
	It's usually right.
	Well, let's see.
	This is the kind of thing we get from the public broadcasters as journalism.
	Let's try a website.
	The guy can say whatever he wants.
	Let's try a website.
	There's got to be a website with some fake stuff.
	Do we have, like, fakerolex.com or something?
	Let's just try this.
	Fake Rolexes.
	Let me try fake Rolexes.
	It was a bunch of these shut down the other day.
	Let me see.
	Rolex replica watch enthusiasts.
	Let me see.
	Here we go.
	Swiss Rolex replicas review.
	Rolexreplica.webgarden.com.
	Okay.
	So, how hard is this?
	How come that hasn't been shut down, by the way?
	Yeah, really.
	Really.
	Hey, this is RolexReplicaWebGarden.com.
	You gotta, like, shut that...
	Oh, by the way, it's not responding.
	Well, it's probably shut down.
	Yeah, maybe they got it.
	Maybe they got that one.
	Here's another one.
	This one was shut down, too, because you can see.
	But I got Replica.
	Okay, here's a whole pile of this thing.
	No, no, no.
	Here we go.
	ReplicaCC.com.
	This is a whole with prices.
	You can buy it right there.
	So let's do a Whois lookup.
	Wait, like Replica?
	You do that.
	I'm going to go look at Replica.cc?
	No, ReplicaCC.com.
	So that's the domain name.
	Yeah.
	Let me see what I get here.
	Oh yeah, they got some nice watches here.
	They're really expensive.
	So they have the Jiangsu Banging Science and Technology Co.?
	Someone's funny.
	I like this one watch.
	This is a beauty.
	These are some gems.
	They're nice, aren't they?
	Oh yeah, they've got some Tag Heuers, a Daytona.
	You know, John, just by looking at this, you've got to get real, man.
	You can't look at this stuff, man.
	You've got to get real, because you're costing Americans jobs.
	There's no American...
	What American makes a Tag Heuer?
	What American makes a Rolex?
	Here it is.
	Here, so...
	This Tag Heuer in Monaco is nice.
	Here's their phone number.
	Plus 86-025-86-888-0037.
	In Jiangsu.
	Let's just call them.
	In China.
	Chiners!
	I'm telling you, it's the Chiners.
	Yeah, it's always the Chiners.
	Right.
	So it's not hard to find.
	So here's another one.
	Look this one up, too.
	www.overwatches.com.
	See, that's still up.
	Overwatches?
	And I say that because the images on this site that we just were visiting are from Overwatches.
	This domain was once owned by a seller of a replica channel.
	Chanel.
	This one got shut down.
	First one to the judgment and injunction, blah, blah, blah.
	Western District of Tennessee, the owners of the website, previously appearing on this web address, were held to have been selling replica Chanel products.
	By the way, what Americans have lost their job over replica Chanel products?
	That's a French company.
	Now, check this out.
	If you do a who is on that, it hasn't been hijacked by the U.S. No, no.
	It's owned by Chanel, Inc., 9 West 57th Street.
	What?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	Overwatches.com, registered through GoDaddy, created March 9th, 09.
	Admin, legal at chanel-counterfeitenforcement.com.
	Whoa, that's a cool domain.
	Maybe it's a honeypot.
	Yeah, owned by Chanel.
	So this was a honeypot.
	Could be.
	Well, what else would it be if it was owned by Chanel anti-counterfeiting?
	Well, but who was it?
	If it was shut down, how come these guys just get to own it then?
	No, I think they owned it all along.
	I think somebody fucked up.
	Because it's the same as Overwatch's.
	Interesting.
	Well, it is Overwatch.
	And Overwatch has had all the pictures of all the Rolexes.
	It was set up as a honeypot for the Chanel stuff, and it was shut down supposedly for selling replica Chanel handbags.
	This whole thing is bogative.
	My point is, if the domain name says Overwatches.com, what gives Chanel the right to own that?
	Why can't Rolex own that?
	No, I think it's Chanel.
	They owned it for whatever reasons they wanted to own it.
	Probably to catch people that were interested in buying it.
	I don't know what they were up to.
	I have no idea.
	All I know is that this whole thing is just a massive cluster scam.
	Of bogativeness.
	Meanwhile, this other site, the Replica ACC, has got some nice stuff.
	It's rocking it, yeah.
	Depending on whether or not you actually get them.
	But their price is about...
	Seems about right.
	Yeah.
	Where would you get them from?
	They probably ship them straight from China to get blocked.
	Now, how come this site hasn't been brought down?
	And this is the one coming out of China from the university.
	And how hard is it to go visit the place and say, hey, you guys are running an operation out of the college here.
	Why don't you...
	Stop that.
	Stop it.
	Here, contact us on the website.
	You can email them.
	Watch809 at gmail.com.
	Well, how hard can that be?
	Just call up Google and say, hey.
	It's impossible to find these people.
	FAQ. Let's see.
	Let's see.
	How long is delivery?
	What if I don't have a credit card?
	Don't worry about it.
	No problem.
	We'll take Western Union.
	You've got some pretty amazing products.
	I'd like Contact Us.
	That's the best.
	You can also get some watch boxes.
	You're most welcome.
	Watch boxes are expensive.
	A Rolex watch box is $28.
	New arrivals.
	So you get the watch box and put your fake Rolex in it and give it as a gift to look like a big spender.
	Alright.
	Do you want to play this Rogue Websites thing or are we done?
	It's the same.
	It's the same idiot from the Chamber of Commerce.
	No good.
	You can play it.
	It's a really good consumer news.
	You can use protection, but he says they're just throwing stuff out there.
	This is critically important to protect the 19 million American jobs and American consumers.
	Yes, jobs!
	Because in addition to the rogue websites that are based in the United States, or at least have those domain names that our enforcement agencies can reach through the existing court process, there are many rogue sites that are based entirely outside the United States.
	China!
	They're ripping us off and laughing all the way to the bank.
	The legislation pending in Congress...
	Unlike the government.
	Who is literally ripping us off and laughing all the way to the bank.
	This legislation is designed to cut those sites off from the U.S. market, to create a court procedure, full due process, so that a judge can rule these sites are dedicated to the theft of American intellectual property.
	And there's a campaign of 350 companies, trade associations, and professional organizations from every corner of the country, from dozens of different sectors of the economy, who support rogue-site legislation.
	Larry Downs, is it at least worth it for public awareness?
	So, I think we have a new domain name, if I'm looking at the chatroom, bogativewatches.com.
	Alright, I got one little thing.
	Unless you have something, I got one thing left.
	No, you got it.
	Alright, so as you know, I'm tracking the 99% concert for Occupy Wall Street, as I believe this will be coming forth very soon.
	I know who the headliner is going to be, and it's a surprise headliner.
	And Ben Stein recently was in an interview scenario.
	You know, Ben Stein from Ben Stein's Money.
	Yeah, I think so.
	The World...
	Began 6,000 years ago.
	Yeah, he's a weird dude.
	So he's in an interview with the editor of Bloomberg or something, and he starts railing on the Occupy Wall Street people, and all of a sudden, I know who the headliner's going to be.
	They're talking to each other and thinking they're accomplishing something.
	They're people who don't know the real meaning of the word work.
	They're kind of sad.
	Self-important.
	And as far as I can observe, they're not doing anything very important.
	I mean, they're against greed.
	Well, we're all against greed.
	They're against fraud.
	Well, we're all against fraud.
	There are already laws against fraud.
	I don't understand what they're doing.
	The only times I've ever been around them, all they did was bang on drums.
	I don't see that that accomplishes very much.
	They represent the 99%.
	They don't represent the 99%.
	The 99% are working.
	Working.
	They're working.
	Try working.
	Or they want to be working.
	There are those in the 99% who are trying to work in there.
	I mean, you've got to admit, the economy's not working for everybody.
	I don't see these guys working.
	Bang on drums ain't working.
	That's right.
	Todd Rudrigan will headline the 99% Congress, everybody.
	I don't want to work.
	I don't want to bang on the drum all day.
	Yay, yay, yay.
	Can you just see it?
	It's going to be the new anthem, John.
	I like it.
	I think you're on to something.
	Hey, hey, hey.
	Hello to someone.
	We could all sing that with a human microphone.
	My boss is a jerk!
	I just want to bang on the drum!
	Alright.
	It could happen.
	Could have gone out with that.
	Well, we're done.
	I'm going to take a chance and buy one of these Bulgari watches.
	Oh no.
	Are you going to do a Western Union?
	And figure out, yeah, Western Union will do.
	And see what happens.
	See if I get the watch or if they just take the money and laugh all the way to the bank.
	We do know where they live.
	Right.
	Yeah, we can find their server.
	Yeah, we know where it is.
	And we'll see what we get.
	China.
	I've been waiting for a trip to China.
	All right, everybody.
	Here's what's coming up.
	As a final clip of the program, we have an interview with Sir Matthew of Melbourne, brought to you by our buddy there, Maynard, in Australia.
	Get my nation down under.
	Target of a future Hot Pockets tour, for sure.
	After we do the West Coast, which Mickey desperately wants to do this summer.
	Good for her!
	I don't think we can do an RV, though.
	I don't think it can get up the Rockies there.
	No.
	Do consider us in your thoughts, your prayers, and your donations through PayPal, bank, or otherwise at Dvorak.org slash NA. And the No Agenda Producer Update coming up next on the stream.
	Coming to you from Camp Mofo here in Austin, Texas, the capital of the Lone Star State.
	And good morning, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where we're on Herman Cain Watch, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll talk to you again on Thursday right here on No Agenda.
	Sir Matthew?
	It is Sir Matthew.
	In the morning to you, Mayna.
	In the morning to you.
	You are speaking to Sir Matthew in Melbourne.
	And when Eric LeShill sent out the word that knights should contact me for interviews, I've been swamped, Sir Matthew.
	Oh, fantastic.
	And the big problem is that everyone's in great time zones like the Netherlands, Gitmo Nation East, or Stinky Cheese.
	We're a long way away, aren't we, Matthew?
	Down in Gitmo Nation, down under, yes.
	Colleagues in other countries, it's always hard to find the right time to call them.
	What I might do with the other nights, I might get a series of questions, send them the questions and they can record their own audio.
	Oh, that sounds like an idea.
	So I can stick it together and everyone can have the same answers and we can even make a mini documentary out of it.
	But right now, Sir Matthew, how did you get introduced to No Agenda?
	Moderately similar to a lot of others, I think.
	I think it all came from Twit, listening to John C. Dvorak, the buzzkill on Twit.
	And I had another friend that we used to always sit down and compare Twit notes, and he said, actually, I've been listening to this other podcast that JCD's on.
	You should listen to it.
	With the Podfather, started listening.
	That was probably about close to two and a half years ago now, and haven't looked back since.
	What hooked you?
	Oh, probably because it's an exhibition of rational thought in the media, which is something sadly lacking, where it's not sort of, oh, it's got to be this black issue or this white issue.
	Let's have a discussion of what's good about it, what's bad about it.
	But I've got to say I get a bit of kick out of some of the more crackpot bits.
	I always sing along to the jingles, and I particularly like it when they play the Gitmo national anthem.
	In the more...
	And happy and distracted slaves.
	That's correct.
	Because sometimes that's the only way to get through the day, isn't it, Sir Matthew?
	It is.
	Definitely, I'm one of those that's definitely a car drive commute in the morning and back home in the evening listener.
	Is there one issue that you go, ah, this is great, win, lose or drone, that segment?
	I always love it when John gets onto the great soy milk conspiracy.
	The soy milk conspiracy, I think we're a bit luckier that some of our soy is not quite as GM'd here in Australia.
	Whenever Adam's going off on one of his tangents about the Dargate or the...
	The earthquake machine.
	The earthquake machine's always good.
	Looking for those whale strandings to let us know when there's an earthquake coming along.
	And you don't have to agree with it to enjoy it and to think about it.
	Absolutely not.
	And that's the whole thing.
	I think most of the mainstream media or the lamestream media is around trying to get all the people that have exactly the same thoughts and self-actualising their own ideas rather than having a discussion.
	It doesn't matter whether you agree or not, it's a discussion.
	You listened, you got hooked.
	What made you decide to become a knight of the No Agenda Armoury?
	I did my first donation.
	I thought, oh, I wanted to do a douchebag call-out to my friend that had got me hooked, Mr Simon Alicia, who's still not a knight, but he has dedouched himself.
	So I thought, oh, if I'm going to do that, I may as well go for an executive producership.
	Did the threes, 3.30, 3.33, and then after that I thought, I'll do it again, and then once I'd done twice, I thought, well, it's only just one more.
	For a knighthood, I should go for that.
	What do you do with the ring you've got?
	Generally have it with me.
	If it's not on my finger, I've got it on a necklace.
	Have you punched anything with it just to see that it's the reverse when it comes out?
	I have.
	I've actually used the original wax that I got and I've sealed a couple of letters with the wax.
	To the Australian Tax Department?
	It was.
	Not an official document to the ATO. That's a good point.
	I should do that.
	Usually I lodge electronically so it's a bit hard to do that.
	So it does look cool in reverse when you punch stuff?
	It does.
	It actually comes out very, very nicely.
	I was a bit dubious as to whether or not it would look as good once you actually wax sealed something as it does on the ring, but it was very, very good.
	I definitely agree with the buzzkills idea that if you're not paying for the product, you are the product.
	If you're getting something for free like a BTV or a podcast or something and they're advertising to you, they're selling you to someone else.
	I really do think that what Adam and John are sort of doing is potentially the germ of an idea that could come into what is going to be our media in the future.
	You are directly paying for the media so that it's being tailored for the sort of stuff that you like rather than what the advertisers might want out of you.
	It's got the makings of something big and I'm very keen to be a part of that.
	Well, so Matthew, as someone who feels ownership of the program, is there something you'd like to see more of or something you'd like in the show or more of?
	Yeah, any comments?
	I actually find myself just completely satisfied with the show as it is.
	I wouldn't want it to be longer and I'm glad they dropped the idea of the third show because I don't know how I'd fit it into my week if I had more than five hours of no agenda of a week.
	It's got its own variety within it.
	It's like there's pretty much no topic that they don't discuss.
	It would be nice to see them do a Hot Pockets tour down under.
	Wouldn't that be great?
	That would be good.
	All the different kinds of beer they could get stuck into.
	It could be.
	We can teach them that Australia isn't about fosters.
	And Dvorak could just get some of these Australian wines that he can't get at Costco.
	I'm across in Perth quite a bit for work and I've got to say that the boys keep saying they want to go there and they really should and the Margaret River's not very far from Perth.
	One last question.
	Why do you think there aren't many female knights around the round table?
	Probably because of the technology link that gets most of the people into the show.
	I'd say, you know, JCD being a technology columnist and the podfather himself being all things to RSS and podcasting.
	Most of us geeks and nerds out there, there tends to be a bit of a male bias to it.
	Sir Matthew from Melbourne, thank you very much for chatting to us.
	Thank you for your time and I hope we've inspired a few more people to think a bit more about being a Knight of the Round Table.
	I mean, what do you do with all your hookers and blow?
	I try and keep them away from my wife.
	Best podcast in the universe!
	Adios, mofo.

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