Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination, episode 341.
This is no agenda.
Safely atop the hilltop watchtower crackpot command sent in the People's Republic of Southern California.
In the morning, I'm the Muffin Man.
I'm Adam Curry, everybody.
And from northern Silicon Valley, the fog is rolling in, and so is the fog of knowledge.
I'm John C. Devorak.
I'm John C. Devorak.
The Fog of Knowledge.
That's our show, right there.
We are the Fog of Knowledge.
Hey, John, let me start it right off with some media assassination.
Take it.
Okay.
So, people, this is how it works.
This is what our show is all about.
It's beautiful.
It came in just this morning as I was watching C-SPANS. Because that's what we do, so you don't have to.
Ahem.
You probably already saw the news.
You probably already heard about it.
This is, without a doubt, the, where is it here?
The distraction of the week on the Woolwoods agenda.
So whenever they don't want you to pay attention to what's really going on, they come out with something really awesome.
Just coincidentally released, coincidentally released the news that muffins at the Department of Justice cost $16.
And the news, yes, it's being propagated now on the floor of our House of Representatives.
It's going to be propagated everywhere.
I do have a clip you might want to play.
Summarize it.
Wait, let me play you my clip, which I just got from C-SPAN. You want me to play your summary clip?
I think my clip will probably be better because it's produced.
Oh!
Our Washington watchdog is on the case tonight.
Good production.
Well, I didn't say I produced it.
Oh, okay.
These tough economic times for America.
A new audit of the Justice Department turned up $16 muffins paid for by taxpayers.
And the muffins are just a beginning.
Here's ABC's John Carl.
Yes, it's true.
The Justice Department has found a way to spend $16 for a single muffin, $10 on a cookie, and $8.24 on a cup of coffee, all part of the $121 million this one government department spent on conferences in just 24 months.
Sixteen dollar muffins?
Really?
Right.
I mean, does Washington get it?
That's insane, and I think that's, again, that is why people across this country are so frustrated.
Nobody can tell us how an ordinary muffin like this could cost sixteen dollars.
But this is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the ways Washington wastes your money.
Just look at Herman the Hermit Crab or Rex the Mountain Lion.
The Department of Homeland Security has developed several mascots to teach kids how to prepare for disasters.
Cut back to just one mascot and by one estimate you save $2.6 million on production and program costs.
Yeah, hold on.
Let's not go to the mascots.
Let's stick with the muffins.
There's more muffins.
More about the muffins.
Pay attention to the muffins!
Muffins!
Muffins!
Sixteen bucks for a muffin.
Come on.
Muffins!
That's just one way that the Justice Department is wasting your tax dollars.
It better be a good breakfast.
By the way, these chicks that do this on, I don't know if it's Fox or whatever, I love her voice.
I'm looking at her, I'm like, ah, she's sexy.
Telling you that.
What the heck is in that muffin?
I almost feel like saying in other news, there's a $16 muffin.
I mean, what?
This is a $16 muffin?
Alright, that's just one example of some of the outrageous spending that turned up in the audience.
But now, on the floor of our very own government buildings.
Madam Speaker, do you know the Muffin Man?
The Muffin Man, the Muffin Man.
Yes, I know the Muffin Man, but he doesn't live on Drury Lane.
This is Representative Poe.
This guy, I mean, he got the calls like, hey man, I got an idea for...
Can you do your Muffin Man bit?
Hey man, the Muffin Man bit's really cool, dude.
It's really, really awesome.
You gotta listen to this guy, because he actually wraps it up with the rest of...
And this is the, hands down, this is Tonight Show material.
He lives at the Department of Justice and is growing rich on selling $16 muffins to the Department of Justice on Justice Lane.
The Department of Justice's Inspector General states that at only 10 conferences, the Department of Justice spent almost $500,000 on refreshments.
That's $50,000 per conference for refreshments.
Just refreshments.
Forget about the hookers.
The muffins are expensive.
And that includes $4,200 for a handful of muffins.
Muffins!
$250.
This is great.
Now, Madam Speaker, how come these critters cost $16 apiece?
These are some high-dollar muffins.
It's a damn good muffin.
Justice Department is buying for its conferences at refreshments.
Refreshments.
Where do you even find a muffin that costs...
Sixteen dollars.
Well, tell us.
I've never seen one, Madam Speaker.
Maybe they're shipped in from a special bakery in France with some secret ingredient.
My favorite bakery in Texas.
Slam at France, by the way.
Little sideways slam at France.
Rayo's in Beaumont tells me these things should be about two dollars a piece.
Which is overpriced, too.
So why is the Justice Department with all those fancy lawyers letting the Muffin Man get away with this price?
The Muffin Man!
Because the government doesn't care.
No.
It lives high on the hog with taxpayers' money.
Wrap it up.
So, Madam Speaker...
Do you know the Muffin Man?
The Muffin Man?
I know the Muffin Man.
And the government should quit spending somebody else's money to keep the Muffin Man rolling in the dough.
Whoa!
Whoa!
Excellent!
All right, I'll give you a clip of the week.
No, no, no, because I got more.
But this is very important.
Listeners to this program, the best podcast in the world, Your news outlets are about to overflow with this news.
Please don't look at the $135,000 an hour it costs to fly the B-2 stealth bomber.
Because that ain't no regular muffin.
These are the muffins.
I should be outraged about these muffins.
Please, please don't look at the $50,000 an hour per flight of the J-22 Raptor.
Please don't look at all of that.
Please don't look at the drones that your president is having built in North Africa.
Please don't look at any of that.
It's millionaires and their $16 muffins.
That's what you should be worried about.
That is the word of the nation for today.
Yeah, well, and maybe you don't want to worry about a story that started breaking three days ago.
Farmers flee as world's deadliest volcano rumbles.
Wait a minute.
This is not second half of the show yet.
No, this is not a bullcrap story.
This is Mount Tambora.
Where is that, Mount Tambora?
It's in the Indonesian area.
It's over there.
It's one of the whoppers.
If this sucker goes off, we've got like two years of no food.
Well, that's not true, because I've got my crisis garden.
Yeah, well, I've been, yeah.
I'm pretty sure that garden, which grows nothing but peppers, from what I understand.
They're great peppers, though.
She's not going to feed anyone.
Do you like peppers?
Hey, guys, what's for dinner?
Peppers.
Peppers.
I got to meet some peppers in the muffins.
So how come we won't have any food?
No food at all?
Well, this thing is one of the big ones.
They grow muffins over there?
For it to throw a bunch of crap in the air and basically cut off sunlight for a while is quite high on the list.
How far would it cut off the sunlight?
Would it cut it off over here?
Well, yeah.
Really?
That's a big cloud.
Last time I went off, it was 1815.
A widely forgotten outside the region killed 90,000 people when it blew up.
Nah, it's just Indonesians.
And blackened skies on the other side of the globe.
Wow.
And so this thing's a rumbling, huh?
Didn't it poop out something like a couple days ago as well?
It's interesting because there's been a number of volcanoes that have been active.
The Icelandic volcano looks like it's, you know, that big one, looks like it's shaking something.
And there's a volcano, according to CBS News, Alaska's remote Aleutians, I think is the one that you're thinking of because it's coughing out some lava.
Yeah.
Hey, we need to make a whole bunch.
GX2 should be making a new track.
I think we can revitalize Tennessee Ernie Ford.
Loaded 16 bucks.
What do you got?
Another big muffin that's over the top.
And the muffin was stale!
Hey, even worse!
Damn $16 muffin was stale!
This will be your media distraction of the week, ladies and gentlemen, so we're glad that you've tuned in for those of you listening live.
In the morning to you, John.
In the morning to you, Adam, and in the morning all ships and sea, boots on the ground, feet in the air.
Yeah, you've got to use a couple other ones.
Baker's in the kitchens today.
We'll say in the morning to you.
Baker's making the muffins.
And, of course, all of our human resources who are in the chat room at noagendastream.com, noagendachat.net, listening live to the dulcet tones of Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak.
Look.
Listen.
I don't even know where to start today.
Well, let me start with something.
Big news.
Big news.
Breaking news.
New York Times.
Hold on a second.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have breaking news.
We have really big news from the New York Times.
Over to our correspondent, Jean-Claude DeVore.
Jean.
Apparently, ABC, NBC, and CBS are going to start experimenting with a new...
Well, by commonly using a word in the common parlance...
Seldom if ever used on network television and is now going to be applied to a number of shows as an experiment.
The word vagina.
No!
Wait a minute.
Wait a minute.
Explain to me the use of this word vagina and why are we now using it?
Has it been approved?
Yeah, apparently the three networks have agreed to begin to use the word vagina in various sitcoms in comedic situations.
Because the vagina is a hilarious thing.
It's quite entertaining.
It's not as funny as the word kook.
No, it likes me a good vagina joke.
Seriously?
Was this a press release?
This is a breaking story in the New York Times this morning.
Wow.
And the story literally says that the three networks have agreed that the word vagina can be used in humorous situations.
Let's try a couple of examples.
Hey John, your face looks like your vagina!
Would it be like that?
God, I hope not.
Then how can vagina be a punchline?
Why would I be mentioned in the sitcom?
Then two and a half men, I don't know.
How can you use vagina as a punchline?
I don't know.
We're going to have to wait until the scripture is written.
I can't wait.
But they've decided to do this.
So...
You know, I noticed that they first started this experiment a couple years ago with the word penis.
They started dropping it into sitcoms.
And it's funny!
I don't think it's that funny.
But anyway, so now they've decided to up the ante here.
I know tits is in play.
Wait a minute.
Tits is funny.
That's a funny word.
So they broke through the glass ceiling because penis apparently was already allowed and the vaginas amongst us were angry.
I think some women's group protested the use of the word penis without the use of the word vagina.
They weren't getting equal coverage.
As it were.
The vagina muffalogs.
Anyway, so that's your news of the day.
Wow.
It's a big deal.
Yeah, it is a huge deal.
I have to...
It pains me.
It really, really...
Speaking of the New York Times and of the stupid things that are being put towards you as news...
It pains me to say that Keith Olbermann is pretty much the only guy on...
He's not really mainstream anymore now that he's on current TV. Correct.
You can't even find it.
I think it's somewhere in the 800s on my channel box.
He is the only one so far to actually say something about the Occupy Wall Street demonstrations.
And he brought a guy on who has, I'm sure he has a book out, and I just wanted to play this because, well, props for props is due.
He is the only one of any news outlet, although, again, he doesn't really qualify anymore, which is why he can do it.
Because, well, let's face it, Current TV has no money, so they don't have to...
Nobody's paying attention to Current TV. No, no one's paying attention, but at least he's saying it.
That was pretty good, so here it is.
In our third story, after five straight days of sit-ins, marches, and shouting, and some arrests, actual North American newspaper coverage of this, even by those who have thought it farce or failure, has been limited to one blurb in a free newspaper in Manhattan and a column in the Toronto Star.
It started Saturday when about a thousand people marched into New York's financial district to express their anger over how the financial system treats the majority of Americans, what they call the 99 percenters, and to draw attention to the misdeeds of Wall Street.
They have been confronted with an ever-increasing police presence, which is blocking certain streets and attempting to keep protesters away from the stock exchange itself.
While the protesters are peaceful, tensions are beginning to rise.
According to the group's own website, seven protesters were arrested yesterday, with four more being arrested today.
The police have resorted to using a 166-year-old law which bans the wearing of masks in a gathering of two or more people, except at masquerade parties.
Simple solution to that crap.
Call those protests outdoor masquerade parties.
Well, the majority of the media is ignoring the public uprising.
It is not going completely unnoticed.
Take, for instance, Yahoo, which blocked any email containing the group's website with the message, suspicious activity has been detected on your account.
Yahoo later acknowledged the error, tweeting, we apologize for blocking OccupyWallStreet.org.
It was not intentional and caught by our spam filters.
It is resolved it may be a residual delay.
By the way, that was quite interesting.
A lot of tweets yesterday about Yahoo blocking messages that contain the actual URL OccupyWallStreet.org.
And what a lame-ass excuse.
Of Yahoo to come out and say, oh, it was our spam filter.
Spam filters don't work outbound.
That is new to me.
I've never seen this message from Yahoo.
Have you?
No, I haven't.
I don't use Yahoo that much, so I can't say from lots of experience, but now I know why I don't use it.
That's repulsive.
But it's so incredibly lame.
It's vagina of them to say that.
But even worse, and this is where Olbermann goes wrong, he doesn't come out and state the obvious as to why no one is talking about these Wall Street protests.
Which, by the way, it's a worldwide phenomenon.
It's not just Wall Street.
There are other, I think in like 37 countries, people are not maybe as big, but they are occupying financial centers and staging protests.
So here's the guy he brings on.
He's a journalist.
He's like one of these New York elite guys.
And they're going to dissect why no one is talking about this, why the New York Times has not even written about this.
Their dissection or deconstruction is lame but worth listening to.
It is a real disconnect.
And the New York Times, I mean, this is the hometown newspaper of Wall Street, and there have been no print articles in the New York Times to date with these people camping out down there for four or five days now.
It's crazy.
I think three things are going on.
I think, one, I think the word disconnect that you used is a very good word because I think a lot of people in newsrooms still are not in touch with the real pain and the real suffering of 25 million Americans who are unemployed and underemployed and the struggle to make ends meet there.
So I think there's that.
I think there's something else, and the media critic Jay Rosen from NYU writes about this all the time, which is what he calls savvy, which is...
To take these people who want to change the world seriously, you know, that I've seen a lot of coverage, like the New York Observer's coverage is basically to make fun of these people, you know, oh, these are the guys with the masks we saw a couple years ago, weren't they?
And to kind of put it down and not really try and get at the bottom of what's going on here.
And there's that.
And as far as the Tea Party, you know, Keith, you and I both know the newsrooms overreact.
To conservative carpi and they've been doing it since the days of Spiro Agnew.
But is it possible that because those people don't look like mainstream newspapers or television networks viewers or readers, that they aren't old ladies with purple wigs or purple dyed hair, and they aren't seemingly typical middle American Americans, that they're in New York, is that what the suspicion is?
Because you're not going to be able to sell that videotape or story about that protest to your audience?
Well, I thought it was funny that the biggest story in the New York Times during the five days of the protest, the biggest local story has been the demise of Ray's Pizza.
And so it is kind of like the gray lady selling nostalgia to its gray-haired readers.
And I think there is an element of that.
And maybe the fact that the Tea Party protesters were people...
So what he's saying is, and there is an element of truth to that, is that the readers of the New York Times are not interested in a bunch of kids camping.
Now, I will say a few things.
One, there were several arrests made, so I think that is newsworthy.
But you only have to go back in history, and this is what the New York Times should do, and listen to some of our leaders who have spoken about this very problem.
Since there is, as far as I know, there may not be any audio.
I couldn't find it that quickly this morning.
I quote from Woodrow Wilson.
Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately.
Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the fields of commerce and manufacturing, are afraid of somebody.
They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.
Or we can listen to JFK. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it.
Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions.
Even today, There is little value in ensuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it.
And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon by those anxious to expand its meaning To the very limits of official censorship and concealment.
So, this is about the international banking cartel.
And if you think for one second that they do not have influence on the media, turn off this podcast now.
Which reminds me of the people who do our No Agenda show entertainment site that lists all their movies.
Put the International on there.
That's actually a good banking movie.
It is indeed.
It was BCCI, right?
Who were selling arms.
I mean, they run the show.
60% of America's gross domestic product is from banking.
These people own everything.
They own it, and it is not hard at all to control what is printed or what is broadcast on television.
It's very easy.
I saw it in my own little microcosm at MTV. Hey, man, don't talk about it that way, okay?
All right.
We're just going to burn that tape.
We're not going to do that, okay?
All right?
You like your job, Curry?
You like your job?
Which is another reason...
By the way, Woodrow Wilson, by the way, of course, was responsible for allowing the Federal Reserve to be created.
I will say that when he left office, he said that that was the biggest mistake he ever made, and he was really sorry.
Well, right.
Thanks for nothing, Woodrow.
Thanks, Woodrow.
Good job, buddy.
Never trust a man named Woodrow.
Or Vagina.
Oh, boy, it's so funny.
Can't wait until the first one comes out.
So yes, indeed you are correct.
Without people who support this show with monetary units, and in this case Federal Reserve notes, Ironically enough, there would not be any kind of news that would come into your life.
I mean, that I can think of.
So let's thank our executive producers for this show.
All right.
We have two executive producers and a single lone associate executive producer...
A she-wolf.
Douglas Jarrell or Gurrell or Gurrell.
I think it's Jarrell.
Jarrell.
Came in with the $1,111.11 donation, which is commemorating 11-11-11-11, which is coming up shortly this year.
So he's in that little group of elite knights.
John and Adam, thanks for making me laugh and think.
You have become a regular listening habit of mine, and it's time I showed my appreciation while at...
I can't quit you.
While at it, some karma for a new project I'm starting couldn't hurt.
Okay, let's do that right off the bat.
Whoa, sorry?
And do the dedouching at the same time.
Oh, it's a double shot.
Okay, hold on a second.
Let me do that for you.
You've been dedouched.
You've got karma.
That was very linear that time.
Yes, I've had tighter.
He's in Boulder, Colorado.
Dean Bertram...
A-C-C-R-A-A-C-R-A. I think this is in Middle East someplace, right?
A-C-C-R-A, the Arabian Consulate.
I don't know.
A-C-C-R-A. Anyway, that's no note.
He just said, but he came in with a nice 3-4-5-6-7.
Yeah, that's awesome.
That is an actual giving level on the website, is it not?
Yeah, I believe so.
Joanne Thompson, our associate executive producer from West Lafayette, Indiana.
She's wishing a happy birthday to her son.
We'll give him a shout-out later.
This should put him one half to knighthood.
Please wish him good karma for the new school year.
Give him a karma shot.
All right, karma shot for the new school year.
You've got karma.
And those are our executive producers for show 341.
We remind people to go to dvorak.org slash na, channeldvorak.com slash na, noagendashow.com, and also No Agenda Nation.
Yes.
We can click on a donation button and also buy yourself a slave t-shirt.
Yeah, these slave t-shirts are off the hook.
Let's go over this issue with the slave t-shirt and you.
Okay.
So there was a board meeting.
At Mevio, which is why I was in San Francisco.
So he came up to San Francisco, and he says to me that he's going to wear the slave t-shirt.
During the board meeting.
During the board meeting.
And so I didn't believe him, but there he was...
Yeah, I'm wearing my slave t-shirt.
It's a great shirt.
Did anybody say anything?
Not a soul.
It was unbelievable.
Two and a half hours of meeting, and there was all kinds of questions like, hey man, what you doing?
How's it in L.A.? But not like, hey, what's with the slave t-shirt?
With the barcode.
What's with the slave t-shirt?
With the barcode.
I wore it during Buzz Out Loud.
I did Buzz Out Loud.
That's a Molly Wood show over there at CNET. And I wore it, and they have cameras.
And everyone's like, oh, I want this t-shirt.
Where do I get it?
So noagendanation.com is where you can get the t-shirt.
I have commissioned Miss Mickey and my slavelet, Christina, to redesign the shirt.
Because...
Although I think the printing and the wording and even the fake barcode is great, the shirt itself is a bit boxy, the women think.
So we're going to have to work with Eric the Shill to come up with a different schnitt, as they call it.
It's not the right schnitt.
So it has to be, you know, it's just boxy.
Well, they're just women's versions that aren't boxy, I'm sure.
Yeah, but there are shirts.
I mean, it's a Hanes t-shirt, so it's a good shirt.
But it's just, there are different styles.
I should probably get something cheaper from China.
Yeah, there you go.
Anyway, yeah.
Hold on a second.
Let's get something from them damn Chiners.
That's a good idea.
So, anyway, so that was, you know, it seems weird to me that you would go...
That if you're a normal, you know, you're like a board member of some company, somebody, some character comes in with a slave t-shirt at the board meeting, you would say something.
And the irony was...
You're probably afraid to say something, you're going to bite their heads off.
So the irony was lost on them because, you know, I'm a slave.
There I am sitting in the damn board meeting.
It does me no good.
You know, I have stock certificates that still say pod show on it.
You know, three financing rounds ago.
I mean, I don't have to explain to you what that means, John.
Yes, it means that you can use them as wallpapers and get some money on them.
I'm a slave.
Here I am.
I'm a slave so I can get my health benefits.
I'm showing up.
Hi, how are you doing?
Slave Adam.
That's right.
Slave Adam.
A couple of PR mentions that are very apropos today.
Thank you very much, Stephen Tesler, for being on the ball.
He registered for us, $16muffins.com.
Yeah, this is the kind of, this is the good stuff.
Guys, this is a quick draw.
$16muffins.com.
I really, really like that.
We have some good ones, actually.
These, of course, are forwarding to noagendashow.com.
Igotnothingtohide.com, another one forwarding to the show, which I think is a great one.
Unbelievable that this is not registered.
CockedPistol.com, which of course is DEFCON 1, according to our U.S. government drill, which will be taking place, I believe, on the 27th of September, where the president will actually be shuttled underground in the mountains of Colorado, or maybe under the airport, we're not quite sure.
So cockedpistol.com, which should get some good SEO juice for us.
Thank you very much.
That's Steve Thompson this time actually did that.
So great job.
And then the final one.
Yet again, I am surprised because it's a word that's been around since 2008.
Now registered and pointing to the NoAgendaShow.com website, ObamaBots.com.
Oh, jeez.
How is it possible?
I'm always stunned by this.
Who's doing PR for the Republicans?
That's like stupid.
And we've got it.
We have got it.
That might be repurposed for something fun.
Yes, for sure.
For some artwork.
We just have a blog.
We find these Obama bots.
They're all over the place.
And we either post their photos or we just post links to various YouTube videos where the bots are talking.
To each other.
Hey, bud.
How you doing, bud?
Yeah, I'm good, bud.
What's up, bud?
Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.
So thank you very much to Douglas Gerrall.
Hopefully we'll get a pronunciation before we knight Douglas, who is 11-11-11 knight.
Dean Bertram.
So, of course, Douglas will be also executive producer of the show for today.
Dean Bertram with the 345.67 donation.
Great giving level, and that should certainly bring some karma.
Thank you very much, Dean.
And associate executive producer and lone she-wolf.
Joanna Thompson with her 222.22 donation.
We highly appreciate that.
It keeps us on the air, keeps us motivated, and we're very, very proud of it.
Of course, you can do one very important thing, which has to do with propagating our formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Mew.
Water.
Order.
Shut up!
That sounded like...
Remember back in the old days when you'd have the edit on the magnetic tape and it would roll across the head and it would fumble out like that?
That's what it sounded like.
The digital version of it, I guess.
Anyway, so I was in San Francisco.
I went up on Tuesday.
So I really had only three things to do.
The board meeting, of course, which I wore the brand new Slave t-shirt for.
Buzz Out Loud with Miss Molly Wood.
We practiced our In the Morning Wood program, which I think went great.
I promoted the show in so many different ways.
If you are brand new and you are listening to Buzz Out Loud, welcome to our little family.
I threw out the rickperrysucks.com, shutupslaves.com, chemtrail.me.
This is the cool thing about all these different domain names.
You don't have to become repetitive when you're promoting the show.
So I said noagendashow.com once, but then I slipped in these other ones along the way.
And we talked about stuff, too.
Stream's down, they say.
Is it?
No.
Stream's good here.
Oh.
Yeah.
I don't know.
That's not good here in Albany.
Anyway, go on.
So that was a lot of fun.
And the chat room there was infiltrated, of course, which was great.
How many listeners were there?
I don't know how many.
I don't know.
What's their show get?
I have no idea.
Jazz?
It's popular.
Well, it's so popular that they're doing away with it daily and going to once a week, so it must be doing great.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's rocking.
And then, of course, John and I, or actually the Tuesday evening, we had one of our famous dinners.
And I will say, right up front, just like my airfare and my hotel at the luxurious Marriott Courtyard on 2nd Street, the dinner was financed by the Nevio credit card, which is still good through the month of October.
I don't know if I'm getting a new one.
After the whole slave t-shirt thing.
Well, not if you keep actually using it.
Hey, Adam, your personal expenses were a bit high this month.
Yeah.
And we had a dinner at Fifth Floor in San Francisco, and since people are always asking us to do a little more food and wine talk on the program, I think we should just discuss this briefly, John, if you don't mind.
I would like to kick it off by saying John was a total dick to the staff, which was quite hilarious.
I was not a total dick.
You were.
Here's how it goes.
John is looking through the wine list, which is kind of the most important part of our meal since John is a wine expert, aficionado.
And he's looking through it and he's grumbling and he's moaning.
He's like, is the sommelier here?
Ha!
At least it dramatized my life.
It sure makes it a lot more interesting than reality.
By the way, you have to understand, John was dressed in his crocs, his jeans, and a shirt hanging out.
Your shirt tail just hanging out.
I even made...
Because I dressed up.
I was dressed up.
I was dressed in black.
I looked good.
And I always think that we look like gay lovers when we're in these places.
We show up at 5.30.
I've never seen any gay guys actually think that much.
I think we look like you're my gay sugar daddy.
I'm telling you.
Yeah.
Until I pay.
Which is when they get thrown off.
Wait a minute.
How did that work?
Wait a minute.
So John's bitching and moaning.
Give me the sommelier.
And the sommelier comes over.
Her name was...
What was her name?
Sue?
Jennifer.
She was from Long Island.
And John's like, watch, she'll be a psycho.
She'll be a psycho.
And of course she was a psycho.
And here's how it goes.
John goes...
Man, this bottle of Shluckabla looks underpriced.
And she was like, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh.
And John's like, why is it underpriced?
What did we wind up purchasing, John?
We had a Pomard from one of the Burgundy vendors and it was underpriced.
And so I figured it was crummy.
I wanted to get some feedback from her.
She wasn't giving me any feedback and she wasn't trying to upsell us or anything else.
She didn't seem to...
She said, yeah, it's probably underpriced because we put all the wines on sale, and then we ended up buying that wine anyway, and it was the last bottle, which I've always considered to be quite funny.
And it was okay.
It was good.
You liked it a lot.
I did.
I was not well from the meal itself that evening.
Yeah, I've run into a lot of this kind of thing.
That's why I don't really eat out at these high-end places so much anymore because they do these experimental things that are just like El Bully-style cooking where there's little eggs that were actually apple juice or whatever.
And I wonder whether or not they know what they're doing.
And I think they're also doing a lot of sous vide, which we've bitched about on the show before, or I have.
Sous vide?
Explain sous vide.
Sous vide is that slow cooking where you're basically cooking it at some temperature.
With a candle.
It's actually lower than the ambient air temperature in Phoenix, Arizona during the summer.
And you're cooking in this low temperature in a plastic vacuum-packed bag in a special device.
This is being promoted by Thomas Keller at the French Laundry.
And it's also...
Nathan Mirvold at Microsoft, who's become something of an aficionado of sous vide, his articles in the New York Times about it.
And he's got his big gastronomic book that he's put out, and he's a big sous vide promoter.
And now they're selling sous vide gear at Williams-Sonoma.
And I went in there and was bitching about this with one of them.
Because it's a health...
I mean, I just find these devices to be pushing your luck for producing anaerobic bacteria.
And, because it's in a vacuum and you have all these elements, you can get botulism, it seems.
Well, I had botulism.
I think I had botulism because I woke up at like 2.30 in the morning and I was not well.
I don't want to go into details, but I was not well.
And seriously, I was like, okay, I read the entire Financial Times on the can.
Well, that's really bad.
Yeah, and now here's what I had.
It was the quintet of oysters, which I asked you, and you said, well, the month has an R in it, but then you said January is the best, and I'm thinking it might have been the oysters.
Well, I had the same oyster, so you may have had a bad oyster.
Well, we shared all our food.
Because I had the pork.
Maybe my stomach was just not used to pork, and I normally would not have pork, but I was like, okay, I haven't had pork in a long, long, long time.
Well, you had other things on your pork plate than I had, and so it's possible something on that plate.
Or there may have been a bad oyster, or what else was it we had?
Was there a third thing?
You had something I didn't have, which was...
Oh, I had the foie gras.
Ah!
That could be it.
It could have been the foie gras.
Yeah, which is a heavy...
If you haven't been eating that a lot, that could make you sick.
Possibly, yeah.
Yeah, I had a salad or something.
But in general, I would give...
Let me make another point for you to follow our food chat.
And by the way, yes, we did eat off each other's plate.
We do that.
Which just makes it all the more gay.
Honey, can I try some of your veal?
So, you keep pushing this.
I'm wondering about you.
Anyway, so, the...
What was I saying?
I don't know.
You had something.
You wanted to say something.
Oh, man.
You interrupted me and I lost my train of thought on the show.
I'll come back to it.
Lipitor.
Lipitor.
Anyway, one of the things, by the way, I don't eat foie gras.
This may be the complaint.
Because, you know, for one thing, it's trendy because it's going to be made illegal in California.
But the joke of it is the foie gras we get most of it in the United States is duck liver.
Yeah, it's not goose.
And real foie gras is goose liver, and the difference is remarkable.
I mean, goose liver, the real foie gras is quite tasty.
It's fantastic.
I have never liked duck liver foie gras.
I think it tastes funny, and I don't know what they've done to torment these ducks to get those livers that big, but...
Well, they pump tubes in their throat, the same as the geese.
It's just not a product I'm fond of.
Well, I'm more than happy to eat.
It's delicious.
Yeah.
Anyway, and then of course, when I had ordered the pork and you had ordered the veal and they came out with two veals.
Yeah.
And we're like, dude, not true.
And the guy comes back, so like, my finger slipped on the computer and I hit...
That was a classic.
What a load of crap that was.
So overall, I would give, on a scale of one to ten...
And by the way, wait, wait, let's get one more little jibe in there.
Okay.
He comes back and he says, hey, the chef will make it up with a special course for you or some sort of thing.
Yeah, and he brought me a piece of bread.
Yeah, there was nothing.
They never bought the special course.
So we got the veal and the pork, and I'm surely convinced that the veal was just left under the heater because it wasn't...
Oh yeah, under the heat lamp, for sure.
...seems a little dry.
And so I got screwed in the deal.
Yeah, you did.
It was dry.
Your veal was dry.
I know you got sick.
You didn't mention that.
Well, we didn't see each other.
I hate it when I get sick at especially an expensive restaurant.
Yeah, because I think the total bill was...
It was very expensive.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was very expensive.
But it didn't come out of the no agenda money, we should mention.
No, no, no.
Again, it was on the Neveo credit card.
So, because we would not be able to afford that meal.
It's like, no.
Not for us.
But anyway, yeah, that's disappointing.
But, you know, this place has gone through, it started off as a fantastic place and it lost a chef and then they went to another chef who was supposed to be better and he wasn't.
And then the place declined and came back and went to another chef.
And then they finally had this female chef.
Who I thought was still there.
That's one of the reasons I went there.
And no, she's not there anymore.
And so they got this new guy.
And the new guy, the food was okay, seemingly, so I guess not.
But I suspect there may be some sous vide involved.
And there's nothing, you know, to my way of thinking that anything that has...
The only thing that we both like that we'll both try in our cooking endeavors at home is the tomato water made into shaved ice.
Yeah, that was absolutely fantastic.
That was very cool.
By the way, just right in the middle of this, I got a note saying, turn off stream intro.
It's starting over and over again every minute.
Yeah, I know.
I can't help that.
They changed something on the streaming server.
I have nothing to do with it.
Oh, okay.
So anyway, yeah, no, the ice...
Apparently the stream had the foie gras as well today.
The ice water frozen was pretty good.
I can use that idea.
Anyway, on a scale of 1 to 10, I give Fifth Floor in San Francisco a 6.5.
Really?
I'm dinging them, yeah.
I would never give a restaurant that high a number.
Well, you know, I was traveling, so I don't know.
But what else could I have been sick from?
You know, it's like I didn't have any crap at the airport, you know, so maybe it was because of the pork.
My innards just aren't used to that anymore.
But you said this.
Now, what is this about pork in you?
You eat meat.
Yeah, but I never eat pork.
Why?
Well, just never do.
I mean, it's not like a big deal, you know.
Huh.
You know, it's just what it is.
What it is.
All right, well, so I guess we won't go back there.
No.
Well, fat chance we're going to see each other anytime soon.
Well, you get up here.
Oh, well, I'm going to go down to L.A. Yeah, keep threatening.
You better hurry because we're going to be leaving soon.
We're leaving the state of California.
By the way, here's something I found out.
This is abhorrent.
So even though I have nothing, and this was in the board meeting, even though I'm just a shareholder, board member, I receive a pittance, actually I get some minimum wage loan so that I can have health insurance from the company, which was kind of my deal.
Alright, so it's bad on me for cutting a dumb deal because now the company is actually making a little bit of profit.
Not a huge amount, but it's making some profit.
You know, God knows how they do it.
But congratulations good on everyone who works there.
That's awesome.
So the state of California has changed the taxation rules.
And so for a good five years, almost six, millions of dollars went into this company.
And for four or five years, big losses were made.
Millions of dollars of negative results at the end of the year.
Money being pumped in.
Blood, sweat, and tears being pumped in.
Providing jobs, and we've provided jobs for probably 150 people, maybe even more, over that period of time.
And there's still a good 25 people there now.
There's real work, real opportunity, small company.
Now, typically, up until the change is made by Jerry Brown, you could carry your losses forward for your taxes.
Not this year.
The state of California has now dinged the company.
We finally made a profit.
Oh, I'm sorry, you can't carry forward those losses, all those millions of dollars that you invested.
No, no, no, no, no.
You have to pay not just taxes on your profit, but estimated for this year.
That's another good way to drive business out of the state of California.
No kidding!
I mean, that is egregious.
Nevada beckons.
Nevada beckons.
No, no, no.
Austin.
Austin, Texas.
Well, there's a lot of weird stuff going on.
There's a scramble for money so these governments can stay in business.
In Oakland right now, my wife brought this to my attention.
There's a bunch of these anti-blight laws.
And here's how it works.
You are a, say you're an investor and you go to West Oakland and you see a blighted property.
In other words, the thing's boarded up old house.
You want to, it's on the market, it's been foreclosed on, it's basically not owned by anybody.
So you want to fix it up.
So you buy it, and the minute you buy it, the Oakland officials slam you with a blight penalty because you now own this blighted property.
And then they put liens on the property that you just bought, so you can't sell the property and you can't get loans to fix up the property because there's liens on the property.
And this is tens of thousands of dollars worth of liens.
So you have to either abandon the property and leave it blighted, Or unless you have a deep pocket, you can't do anything.
So essentially they're trying, and we figured out that what they're trying to do is that there's federal money available for cities that are blighted, that have nothing but crap hole cities that are just falling apart because you can get federal money.
So if you start fixing these places up, that federal money dries up.
By the way, I love it when people in the chat room say, serve you right for starting the company in San Francisco.
Hey, what companies have you started, douchebag?
You know how many companies I've started?
How many people I've provided with work and opportunity and jobs?
Quit being distracted by people in the chat.
Yeah, you're right.
I'm sorry.
Blight.
Right.
Well, of course, this is...
But it's like, for one thing, there's a money grab for people who try to fix things up, from both the feds and the individual, so they can stay in business in these little hell holes.
Of course.
And the same thing with parking meters and everything else, and tickets.
I mean, speeding tickets and left-turn tickets and everything.
Oh, check this out.
Oh, check this out.
No, check this out.
Check this out.
I got a scam that'll make you even angrier.
So, Mickey...
Made an honest mistake.
And she did a U-turn where she shouldn't have.
And she was really freaked out about it because she really tries to...
And she drives a lot, so shit happens.
So she gets a ticket for $380.
Which, by the way, will remind you not to do that again.
But in addition, it says...
And this is the crazy thing.
If you want to make sure that you don't get a point on your license, and it says right there, which will affect your insurance rate, you have to add an additional $65 to the fee just for the fact that you are going to then go to traffic school, which is an additional payment.
And do you know how many hours you have to go to traffic school?
Eight hours!
Do you know what that costs?
Eight hours of traffic school?
Yeah, it's a couple hundred bucks.
Yeah!
So I went to traffic school.
I finally did it online.
Because there's online, which shows how bogus it is.
But I think I told this story.
This was a number of years ago.
I think I told on an earlier show.
Most people probably don't remember it or haven't heard it or they weren't listeners then.
So I go to this traffic school in Chinatown, Oakland.
And this guy's giving us all kinds of weird information about how you can't change your insurance companies because it's a scam.
There's a centralized company.
If you start swapping your car insurance, they start jacking your rates up and then the other guys know about it and they won't give you a better deal.
And essentially, he tells you about all kinds of traffic laws that you've never heard of.
And it's just part of a scam system to grip you off.
This is pretty interesting.
This is amazing that the California would allow this guy to be blowing the lid off all this stuff, this Chinese guy.
And so we take a lunch break.
Go to get some food and, you know, we're in Chinatown.
It's a great place to eat.
I come back.
There's tape all over the place.
Crime scene.
The cops have arrested the guy.
Crime scene.
They've arrested the guy and hauled him off to jail.
Excellent.
And I saw the two cops.
There were two undercover cops that were in the class.
There was something, just speaking of the craziness of Gitmo Nation, this was on Judge Napolitano, you know, on Fox Business, whatever he is, the new Glenn Beck, who by the way I have a bone to pick with later on.
This is how the court system works in America.
Listen to this.
Paul Berggren is a former assistant U.S. attorney in New Jersey who became a well-known and much sought-after criminal defense lawyer.
He's represented such luminaries as singer and actress Queen Latifah and rap star Lil' Kim.
Mr.
Berggren now finds himself in the crosshairs of his former colleagues as a federal grand jury in Newark has indicted him for conspiracy to murder a witness who had been preparing to testify against one of Mr.
Berggren's own clients.
After firing several of his attorneys, Mr.
Berggren has decided to represent himself in the same courtroom in which he once successfully prosecuted bad guys.
But this is only the first half of the story.
The second half of the story is this.
The government has persuaded a federal judge to have Mr.
Berggren wired with a taser under his belt.
And the judge has warned him that if he moves anywhere in the courtroom where he shouldn't go or says anything the feds don't want to hear, a U.S. marshal will zap him with the taser.
I love it!
That's how all court proceedings should be done, and it should be broadcast live.
They put that thing around their neck like that old Star Trek episode.
Yeah, we're going to blow your head off.
This is awesome.
You know what?
They're all just thinking TV. They're thinking, Judge Judy should do this.
We should have the People's Court with tasers.
This is great.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey!
I loved that.
To me, I was like, wow, that is perfect.
This is what it's come to in our justice system.
No wonder those guys are eating $16 muffins.
They're laughing it up there.
Every time they're alive.
Just zap him for no good reason.
I'll give you $10 if you do it right in the middle of the trial.
Hey, man, I'm really sorry.
I'll give you $10 if you do it.
Who's going to say you slipped?
I didn't mean to do it.
I'm sorry, man.
It was just a mistake.
What can I tell you?
Ten bucks, ten bucks, no problem.
Okay, I'll do it.
But then, you know, just to stay on Napolitano, let me just find this clip for a second.
Something very distressing.
Oh, boy.
I'm sorry.
That show is hard.
He has nothing, but if people watched that show, they would get really upset.
Well, the judge is now no longer in favor with me.
Listen to this clip.
Now a few items from our Freedom Files.
Chuck Schumer never met an opportunity to call for big government intervention that he didn't like.
The senior senator from New York, who once mentored the now disgraced former Congressman Anthony Weiner, wants the Food and Drug Administration to issue warning labels on apple juice shipped from China, saying that it's okay to drink the juice despite some traces of arsenic.
It seems that last week when my TV colleague and friend and fellow New Jerseyan, Dr.
Mehmet Oz...
Oops!
My friend?
My friend, Dr.
Oz?
Really?
Did he say that?
He said that.
My colleague, friend, and fellow New Jerseyan...
...okay to drink the juice despite some traces of arsenic.
It seems that last week when my TV colleague and friend and fellow New Jerseyan, Dr.
Mehmet Oz, warned about...
I'm sorry, Judge.
That doesn't cut it with me.
So Judge Napolitano is off the show.
He's on the watch list.
He's on the no agenda watch list.
We're watching you, Judge.
I don't care.
We're watching you.
I've got to get to a couple of just crazy...
For those of you who haven't been following it...
Actually, I think it is being followed because I got interview requests from the Netherlands...
To come on political talk shows to discuss the new concept of taxing rich people more to pay for poverty, essentially.
So this is now a world...
Everyone is watching the United States.
Because, of course, what we're in the middle of right now is our very own version of Greece.
These are austerity measures, which, to the max, is that we're not calling it austerity measures.
We're calling it, you know, paying your fair share or whatever.
And I think we should deconstruct this a little bit, John, even though we did talk about it during dinner against all the rules, and that was not so good.
But first, here's the president coming out to the Rose Garden, because what I did for you, and if you've not listened to it on the previous program, I deconstructed the entire Jobs Act for you, the American Jobs Act.
And it shows you that it's the infrastructure bank and people being able to buy up houses for free and getting slaves to work for free.
It's a whole bunch of crazy stuff.
And we're not talking about how it's paid for.
We're talking about what it is.
Is this going to create any jobs?
And then, of course, the president comes out with his entire package, and the package contains like a trillion dollars for troops we're going to draw down.
Who cares?
It's all political show anyway.
But listen to what this douchebag says.
So there shouldn't be any reason for Congress to drag its feet.
They should pass it right away.
I'm ready to sign a bill.
I've got the pens all ready.
I've got the pens all ready!
Really?
This thing is not, it hasn't even been introduced as a bill.
It doesn't get introduced until probably the second week of October.
Do people not pay attention to the political process or know how it works anymore?
Is the media just sitting there going like, the pens are ready.
Let me write that down.
Pens are ready.
The pens are ready.
We can sign it.
Yeah, the bill hasn't been introduced.
In fact, the stopgap measure was introduced.
And even that, the Republicans just said no.
They had their version.
The Democrats didn't want that.
It's just a joke.
We actually have another one of these stopgap measures being introduced instead of the bill.
What is a stopgap measure?
That means, in other words, we're running out of money at the end of September.
And we need to have some more money.
So let's just do what we've been doing until November and let's put that in.
Well, interesting you should mention that.
Because remember how there was all this grandstanding about when the president should actually have that speech?
Remember, he wanted to have it on Wednesday.
Oh, right.
The one he wanted to have during the Republican debate.
Right.
So he decided to have it on opening day of NFL. What was the rush on either one of those two days?
Well, I figured out what it was all about.
Dope.
So it happened on September 8th, the speech.
And on that very day, the U.S. Senate, in an unusual procedure, cleared the way for the U.S. to lift its borrowing authority by $500 billion to $15.19 trillion, enough to keep the support for the federal government borrowing money through late January or early February.
So what these bastards did...
Remember there was the big push for $400 billion, but hidden in that provision, remember after raising the debt limit, was this little trick.
It's a legislative procedure.
Here it is.
The action came under an unusual legislative procedure spelled out under the August agreement to raise the U.S. debt ceiling, avoid a U.S. credit default.
Designed by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell would allow an increase of the borrowing limit while allowing most Republicans to vote against such an increase.
So they actually timed everything.
To obfuscate from the public the fact that Senate raised the spending limit by $500 billion, which we were not told about because no one was reporting on it.
On the very day of the speech.
Yeah, it's because everyone's all keyed up for the speech.
No, they were keyed up for football.
Well, yeah, exactly.
They were keyed up for football.
And as you know on this program...
Because words do...
Here's a word that I looked up.
This again is from the Rose Garden.
The president talking about his plan being introduced and the pens being at the ready.
Profligate spending in Washington.
Tax cuts for multi-millionaires and billionaires.
The costs of two wars.
And the recession.
Turned a record surplus into a yawning deficit.
A yawning deficit.
That struck me as a strange word to use.
A yawning deficit.
So, look it up.
Yawn, verb.
Involuntary, open one's mouth wide and inhale deeply due to tiredness or boredom.
Noun, a reflex act of opening one's mouth wide and inhaling deeply due to tiredness or boredom.
Derivatives, an adverb, yawningly.
What does he mean by a yawning deficit?
That the deficit is standing with its mouth open like a bird waiting to be thrown up into?
I mean, what does that mean?
Maybe he didn't say the right word that was on the teleprompter.
Let's just listen to it again.
It's very interesting.
...surplus into a yawning deficit.
A yawning deficit.
What does that mean?
Just like with mouth wide open.
If he said yawing deficit, that would have some meaning because it's oscillation, you know, it could be.
So you think he might have misread the word?
Well, I don't see how you can use yawning.
I found that to be...
I think you can use yawing.
You say yawing.
Which would be going from left to right.
But that's not true because the deficit is only yawing in one direction.
It's hard to stern.
But yawning.
It's like...
That's something Jay Carney should answer.
Jay Carney did answer, my God, you know, my dad once taught me something, which he picked up somewhere along the way.
I haven't learned a lot from my dad, but a couple of things I've learned and have stuck with me.
And this is probably from some training he's had, which will go unnamed.
That when someone is speaking and they stick out their tongue, like lick their lips or something, or literally their tongue just protrudes for a second, that means that it's a lie, that it's bullshit.
Would you agree that this is a well-known fact in body behavior?
I don't know that it's a fact, but I have observed it myself.
When someone sticks out their tongue while they're talking, then it's usually a lie.
Or something's going on, because Jay Carney, and I always watch the press briefings, ad nauseum, it is usually featured on C-SPAN, he doesn't stick out his tongue often, and he wasn't sticking out his tongue in questions before this, but during the questions about this book that came out, Ron Susskind's book...
I have a book clip, yeah.
I have the same clip.
Of Carney?
Yeah.
Or he goes on and on saying, I don't know, it's a bullcrap book, I never read it, but...
Well, I'll play mine because it may be two different ones.
No, I don't think so, but go ahead.
Look, I too have not read the book, although I've read a lot about it.
What we know is that Very simple things, facts that could be ascertained, dates, titles, statistics, quotes, are wrong in this book.
So I think that, in fact, one passage seems to be lifted almost entirely from Wikipedia in the book.
That I thought was very interesting.
Yeah, it was a chicken shit cheap shot.
He gets called on it, though.
By the way, Wikipedia is public domain, so you don't lift it.
But he gets called on it.
They were necessary.
And it took decisive leadership.
It took clarity of vision about where we need to move the country.
And it took willingness to suffer political risk in order to do the right thing for the country.
And that was...
Absolutely at the heart of all the decisions the President made, and the President made them.
Here we go.
What part was lifted from Wikipedia?
We can get that for you.
It's almost a word-for-word Wikipedia.
I don't know!
I don't know!
Where did you get that clip?
From C-SPAN. Because I have the same clip, but there's a whole bunch of stuff in my clip that you don't have.
It's the exact same clip.
Well, I forwarded it.
I forwarded to the question about what part was lifted from...
Oh, okay.
So you jumped past the part where he says it wasn't the life that they led and all the rest of it.
Yeah, I don't give a crap.
Because he was sticking his tongue out the whole time.
Like a little lizard.
Yeah, well, he's a...
This whole thing, this is...
I've never read the book, but it's wrong, and here's why.
Well, that's right there.
It's either an out-and-out lie.
And why, by the way, if you're the press secretary, aren't you on top of these things?
I mean, I know Cheney used to pull this crap.
It's beneath me to read that book.
But the fact of the matter is, if you're the press secretary, it's your job to read that book immediately.
Yes.
And he says he didn't read it, so he's what?
He doesn't give a crap?
Yeah.
He's lying, because he didn't read the book.
Of course he's lying, but he can't quote the Wikipedia page.
Some intern went like, Hey man, let me put this in Wikipedia so we can say it was lifted from Wikipedia.
Yeah, and you can do that quite easily.
Yeah, well they can.
It takes no effort to do exactly what you described.
By the way, could somebody please change my picture on my Wikipedia page?
I look like a dick.
Please put an updated picture in there.
I look like a dork.
It's a horrible picture.
And I'm afraid to change anything.
There's plenty of good pictures of me.
Put a good picture up there, please, with me and my Uggs.
And put in the fact that I'm bi-curious.
I'll put it in there.
Put in some stuff there for me, will you?
Obsessively bi-curious.
You were born in Arlington, Virginia.
Yes, I was.
That picture's not that bad.
It's a horrible picture.
Coming from the fashion icon that you are, John.
It's a horrible picture.
Anyway, the president made a very interesting stumble.
Talking about his...
Whatever he was talking about.
And it's funny.
The clip...
At just the very end, you can hear everyone laughing at him.
They're literally laughing at his stupid mistake about...
He's trying to say, my way or the highway.
Oh yeah, this is hilarious.
This is a good one.
But people are laughing at him.
I can't believe it.
Well, they're happy.
So the speaker says, we can't have it, my way or the highway, and then basically says, my way.
Or the highway.
And they're all laughing in the background.
I can do this.
I can probably...
So the speaker says, you can't have it my way or the highway.
And then he says, my way or the highway.
It's like, you can't read the prompter, you fool!
You fool!
That's probably the prompter.
Whoever put it in the prompter did a poor job.
Yeah, they didn't.
The line separation probably was bad.
Or someone didn't scroll up quick enough.
Now, the president was at a Democratic fundraiser, as he does.
Oh wait, before you go there, let's play this clip.
Sure.
I have this, do you have any idea what it costs to have a dinner with the president and some fundraiser?
Play my clip from the news, this is like yesterday's news, because Obama's coming back to San Francisco on Sunday.
Yeah.
And he's going to do a dinner and he's going to say hello and he's going to do this and that.
But check this out.
Play the Obama dinner price clip.
President Obama is coming back to the Bay Area.
On Sunday, he will have two fundraisers, one in San Francisco, the other in Atherton.
The Atherton event is a dinner that costs $35,800 a couple.
And then on Monday, the president will host a town hall at LinkedIn in Mountain View.
Dvorak.org slash N-A. 35...
What's the 800 for?
How come I couldn't round it off?
That's what I'm wondering.
I'm the 35,800.
It's parking.
It's for parking.
Can't they round it off?
It's for valet parking.
What a rip-off.
Yeah.
But that's for a couple.
Oh, yes.
It's actually a bargain in disguise.
For the price of $38,800.
$35,800.
So, you know, interestingly enough, when we talked about the White House insider who's been doing these interviews, true or not, you know, there's going to be a race war.
This administration will take it to race wars To get the president re-elected.
And I think they're kind of starting this with the class warfare.
Because class warfare very quickly can go into a racist conversation.
And you watch Bill O'Reilly and people like this are going to take it to the race.
They will pull the race card on this.
So I think that has already started.
But regarding this class warfare, here is what the president said at one of these fundraiser dinners, which I found a bit astounding.
You're already hearing the Republicans in Congress.
Dusting off the old talking points.
You know, you can write their press releases.
Class warfare, they say.
You know what?
If asking a billionaire to pay the same rate as a plumber or a teacher makes me a warrior for the middle class, I wear that charge as a badge of honor.
I wear that as a badge of honor.
I wear that as a badge of honor.
A badge of honor.
So he's a class warfare warrior.
And he wears that as a badge of honor.
We're doomed.
We are really doomed now.
And I thought that was pretty lame of him to say.
I don't know what he's up to.
And MoveOn.org is taking advantage of this whole secretary thing.
Here's their latest commercial.
I'm Warren Buffett's secretary.
And I pay a higher tax rate than my billionaire boss.
I'm Warren Buffett's secretary.
I'm Warren Buffett's secretary.
I have three kids, make $40,000 a year.
And I contribute a greater percentage of my income than many billionaires and millionaires.
Most Americans want Congress to raise taxes on the wealthy.
But the GOP refuses to do it.
Why?
Call Congress and tell them.
Raise taxes on millionaires and billionaires so all Americans pay their fair share.
This is so outrageous.
It's crazy to pay their fair share.
It's so outrageous.
I like the way they slipped that part in.
Yeah, but just so we understand how it works, I just want to explain this.
Because we have a progressive tax system in the United States based on income.
But if you have capital gains, which, by the way, is the same for everybody, depending on how long you hold a certain asset.
I think it's like the lowest rate now, depending on how long you hold it, is 15%.
So it is not that you pay...
They actually say it here, it's all about fair share, etc.
But it's twisting the truth.
Because, yeah, you pay 15% on an asset that you hold and if you make money off of that, which is how a lot of people, you know, basically, you know, that's where the income is coming from.
But then to say we're going to use that to tax people more with higher income brackets, it's twisting the truth.
Or am I reading this wrong, John?
Well, there's a lot of twisting the truth going on from every which way.
But I question the notion that some secretary has got a lower tax rate than Warren Buffett.
She turns it around and she actually says the truth in that and says...
Well, let's listen to it again.
Play it again.
Yeah, it's very tricky.
I'm Warren Buffett's secretary.
And I pay a higher tax rate than my billionaire boss.
I'm Warren Buffett's secretary.
I'm Warren Buffett's secretary.
That's good, that's good.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Here it comes.
Listen closely.
I have three kids, make $40,000 a year, and I contribute a greater percentage of my income.
A greater percentage of my income.
Well, yeah, because you don't have the same type of income.
So that's different than saying it's the same.
But that's not the one.
It's the other woman that bothers me, where she says she pays a higher tax rate than Warren Buffett.
This is bull crap.
Yeah.
How is it possible?
Unless Warren Buffett, I mean, Warren Buffett might have worked his way into getting a zero tax rate like General Electric, which is, and by the way, Warren Buffett getting zero taxes and General Electric getting zero taxes.
These are both people that are friends of Obama.
And we know that in this American Jobs Act that there's about $14 billion going to railroads.
So Warren Buffett is all too happy to be propagating this message.
That's great because he's going to get $14 billion.
So, she's paying a higher tax rate than Warren Buffett.
If Warren Buffett is managing to make no money, technically, yeah, she would be.
But it's bullcrap.
I mean, the fact of the matter is, there's probably more going to the tax coffers from Warren Buffett's various accounts.
Sure.
In one way or another.
This whole thing is very, very, very dangerous.
It's a lie.
It's basically a lie.
Ted Turner was on Bloomberg, and you want to hear a dick?
Yeah.
Turner?
Yeah.
Oh, Turner's a great dick.
He's the great dick of dicks.
So here he is, you know, in this Time Warner merger, he lost like $9 billion of paper value and was left with only a billion dollars, and it really hurt him.
Bad job.
I rallied a little bit.
You could talk from personal experience.
Tell me about it.
I tell you what I laid I laid in bed at night thinking about which of my ranches I was going to sell first and which of my panties in my art collection if the situation kept going Boo!
Boo!
Let him eat cake Boo!
I have to sell My ranch and my money.
I don't know which one to sell.
You know who was really, really egregious?
Or abhorrent?
By the way, this is why the public at large doesn't give a crap about overtaxing these guys.
No, of course not.
But they don't realize that everyone's going to get screwed.
That's the problem.
There's two things that people don't realize.
One is they're going to get more screwed because the public always gets more screwed.
The public always takes it in the short.
When the stock market's going up and it's peaking, the public goes in and they get wiped out.
The public is the one that should say, don't do anything.
Elizabeth Warren, who got kicked out of the job that she set up, she was asked to come in and...
Create a job for herself.
Yeah, create a job for herself.
And then they brought in the guy who wrote the book on terrorism.
Remember that?
This is the guy who wrote the book about...
And booted her out.
Bad economy creates terrorists, lone wolf.
Literally, the guy wrote the book on lone wolf terrorists.
Go look it up at search.nashownotes.com.
She's on a talking tour.
Because, of course, no one will listen to her anymore.
She's been kicked out of Washington.
And she has an interesting take on why we need to tax the rich.
She's in a group of people here in a living room at home.
No.
There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own.
Nobody.
You built a factory out there, good for you, but I want to be clear, you moved your goods to market on the roads the rest of us paid for.
You hired workers the rest of us paid to educate.
You were safe in your factory because of police forces and fire forces that the rest of us paid for.
You didn't have to worry that marauding bands would come and seize everything at your factory and hire someone to protect against this.
Carl Warren at work.
What an idiot!
More marauding bands.
You mean like the government goons that went into Gibson guitar?
Yeah, those guys.
And shut them down because they were bringing in some wood from China that somebody didn't like?
You mean goons like that?
Is that what she's talking about?
Yeah.
I can't believe I'm hearing this.
This is Atlas Shrugged.
Well, it's more like Adolf Hitler.
Well, hold on.
By Ayn Rand.
It is here!
We are now in chapter 14 of the book!
I'm glad I have a pilot's license so I can find Galt's Gulch.
Yeah, you're going to find it alright.
Who's going to be there?
Turner?
No, Steve Jobs.
Steve Jobs.
He's already gone.
Yeah, there's a friendly guy.
By the way, so Turner, somebody I know, we both, a mutual friend of ours, that is some cocktail party with Turner.
This is the kind of guy he is.
And he's standing in line at the bar.
And some woman is in front of him yakking at her friend.
And so he says, hey, are you going to get a drink?
She says, no, I'm just standing here.
He says, well, get the fuck out of the way.
Really?
Yeah.
I thought he was going to say, well, no, then blow me.
No, I just wanted to get to the bar.
That is great.
Anyway, just to kind of, unless you've got some other clips, I am reading the President's Plan for Economic Growth and Deficit Reduction.
Do you know what the title of that plan is?
Living within our means and investing in the future.
No, it's just so we can get by.
I like to say, at least he's consistent with this theme of just getting by.
Living within our means, living the American dream.
Yes, just getting by.
Really, really.
You and I are not rich by any means, but what is going on here is really wrong.
Yeah, I agree.
It's really, really, really incredibly wrong.
So I have something that you may have not noticed that came in over the spreadsheet.
Did you see the billboard in England?
Oh, that was the $1 donation, right?
No, no, no.
I'm sending it to you.
Hold on a second.
This is a billboard done by the...
Britain Transport Police.
And it's an illogical and frightening billboard that's apparently floating around London.
Somebody sent us a picture of it.
Now let me read what the billboard says.
First it shows a big family.
When you read this you're going to just die.
A big family kind of gathering around a little baby.
And then the text says a bomb won't go off here because weeks before the criminal pirating films was caught by monitoring his internet history.
Pirating films funds terrorism and organized crime.
Report it today.
Confidential anti-terrorist hotline.
If you see something, say something.
Now, I want to ask you, do an Ask Adam and ask you, how does...
Somebody pirating, in other words, downloading, because there's the internet related, downloading a movie.
So in other words, I'm getting the movie for free.
How is that somehow funding terrorism?
Where's the money coming from?
I'm stealing a movie, and that somehow is funding terrorism?
Can you explain this to me?
I'm not getting it.
I'm looking at the picture right now.
A bomb won't go off here because weeks before the criminal pirating films was caught by monitoring his internet history.
Well, crikey.
You guys are more F than we are.
That's crazy.
Who wrote that?
It's the...
I'm trying to see.
Who sponsored this?
British Transport Police.
Out of control, man.
Leave the island immediately.
You must leave.
By the way, the big arrest there in Gitmo Nation East.
Apparently, after Al-Qaeda on the Arabian Peninsula, we now have Al-Qaeda in Birmingham!
Yeah, it's being dubbed the most significant counter-terrorism operation in the UK so far this year.
The police are certainly treating it as a pretty big deal.
The folks that they are holding in custody...
The words are great in this.
A pretty big deal.
Right now are suspected of in their words.
Suspected of in their words.
The police words.
Commissioning, preparing, and instigating an act of terror.
Terror.
Police have not yet detailed what that plot is, but they do admit it was probably close to happening.
Probably close to happening.
This is fantastic.
Probably close to happening.
And went on to say that they felt, and this is a quote, it was necessary to take action to ensure public safety.
Now, it is reported that the police believe that the terror plot was involved with some kind of al-Qaeda-inspired terrorism, Islamic militancy.
There's a new report that actually said that these folks were believed to be Islamic militants.
Certainly, in another quote, they were tied to international cases rather than local cases, although we have to underscore here, Jenna, that there are no ties to any U.S. potential targets as of yet.
But those of you cram, it's pre-cram.
Pre-crime.
Wow.
How about going up to those guys and saying, hey, what are you doing in here?
Don't do that.
You look like Al-Qaeda when you do that.
It's just crazy.
So my son went up to Seattle.
So I said, did you get your boarding pass?
He said, yeah.
I said...
And it's a one-way ticket because he's going up there and he's going to drive back down.
And so I said, you packed?
He said, I'm not taking any luggage.
He said, wait a minute.
You're going on the airplane from Oakland with a one-way ticket and no luggage?
You're going to get pulled over like, you know, just bring a bag of it with some books in it.
Who cares?
I mean, this is like, you know, this is because I don't know how much the public realizes that this is exactly what, oh, one-way ticket, no luggage?
Something's wrong.
I was pretty fortunate I did not go through the naked body scanner on my way to Oakland or on the way back.
Do they have it at Burbank?
They do not have naked body scanners at Burbank.
They do have them at Oakland, and I just went into the line with the magnetometer.
It was easy.
It's no problem.
It's a crapshoot going.
I haven't gone through the naked body scanner in Oakland.
I've always gone through the magnetometer, and then I recently went through...
Yeah, we know.
Yeah.
I'm just going to brag about it.
Let's do one more let them eat cake clip.
Because this is getting funny.
So here's the situation.
Right now, the entire world is broke by design.
Absolutely by design.
And it's all a big...
It's all fantasy.
It's all a fiction.
It's all about numbers and who owes who.
And who, at the end of the day, all this money is owed to bankers.
The same bankers who won't allow media to report on protests at banks.
So it's all designed to create more political power.
And then the rich, who of course don't really give a crap, because the only thing you have to do is lie awake at night and think about which Monet to sell.
Ted Turner.
Shoe to that guy's head.
It's my favorite Monet.
Life was tough that year.
I had to sell the Monet.
Here comes the shoe, Ted.
Here's Eric Schmidt from Google, and he knows how to fix it all.
He's great.
What do you say to a 55-year-old guy who's lost his manufacturing job and just doesn't know where to get back into the economy?
The issue for somebody like that is often the next job is not going to have the same level of salary as the previous job, but it's better than nothing.
So from the standpoint of employment, that's what they should be doing.
If there were a national compact about how to get this done, if people agree that it's more important to have new jobs, and perhaps even low-wage jobs, than no job.
Remember, a permanently jobless person in our country is a huge cost to us.
They start off looking for a job, after five years they're depressed, and after ten years their medical bills are much higher.
It's better for society to have a full job program and to take the necessary steps to do this.
Germany, for example, three years ago when they were having trouble, actually it's shocking.
They actually agreed across the board to labor and wage cuts to make the German economy and German manufacturers globally competitive.
They now are benefiting from that and they have a very, very low unemployment rate.
Which, by the way, is patently untrue.
It is untrue.
The people with the low wages in Germany are starving.
It's absolutely untrue.
And this guy to say, hey, shut up, slave.
Just take the nine bucks an hour.
What's your problem?
Take a cut in pay.
Shut up.
Better than nothing.
Better than nothing.
By the way, when he says that, I'd like to hear that again because I want to make sure he says nothing, not nothing.
Did he say nothing?
He says nothing.
Hold on a second.
It's right at the beginning.
Yeah, I had already dumped the clip.
Bring it in.
It's not a problem.
What do you say to a 55-year-old guy who's lost his manufacturing job and just doesn't know where to get back into the economy?
The issue for somebody like that is often the next job is not going to have the same level of salary as the previous job, but it's better than nothing.
He says nothing.
No, he says nothing.
No, he says nothing.
No, he said nothing.
No, he says nothing.
The next job is not going to have the same level of salary as the previous job, but it's better than nothing.
Nothing.
Well, I'm on the fence there.
Nothing.
Nothing.
No, nothing.
Nothing.
No, I think you're wrong.
He said nothing.
All right.
Well, we'll let history decide.
So, just one more thing.
Well, by the way, the reason I suggest that is because when you say it's better than nothing, it has a kind of offhandedness to it as opposed to more thoughtful, better than nothing, you know, which just seems to be more sympathetic.
I think it's actually anti-sympathetic and almost snide.
Well, the whole thing he's saying is anti-sympathetic and snide.
He said nothing.
Anyway.
The guy is a dick.
Yeah, he is.
He's weird.
I think he suffers from the fact that he's so rich that he's completely out of touch with everything.
I think a lot of these guys in Silicon Valley get that way.
They don't mingle.
They're completely shut off from everything, and they get weird ideas, and the fact that we listen to them give us advice is crazy.
I have to sell my Monet!
I don't know what to do.
My Monet's my favorite Monet.
So, I've been paying attention to some polls recently.
This is very important.
This is I think we talked about this on the last show.
Like, why these polls, and why do they have multiple news organizations on one poll?
And I think it's really intended for one thing, and that's to legitimize the poll.
And the big poll that is...
It's a New York Times poll.
How more legitimate do you want?
Why does it have to be New York Times-CBS? How does that make it more legitimate?
I don't know.
I don't know.
But here's the USA Today Gallup poll, which of course, USA Today is, I believe, the most widely read newspaper in the United States.
And it's a very popular newspaper because it has lots of pretty pictures and it's easy to find the lifestyle section and the sports section.
It's very easy.
It's read sports.
And so they did a poll, and it's like, everyone's in favor of the Obama plan of taxing the rich.
Here it is.
Seriously.
As you know, what I did is I went and got the full results of the poll.
So they didn't exactly report on the results of the poll.
Here it is.
As you know, President Obama submitted a bill to Congress, which he has not, has not been submitted, that includes a number of proposals designed to create jobs in the United States.
Please tell whether you favor or oppose each of the following of the proposals.
Providing tax cuts for small businesses in favor, 85%.
Let's just cut straight to the chase.
By the way, it doesn't represent the bill at all, because it talks about providing additional funds to hire teachers, police officers, and firefighters, 75%.
Yeah, who wouldn't say yes to that?
Giving tax breaks to companies, hiring people who have been unemployed for more than six months, 73% of course, providing additional funds.
And then they go down to the taxing the rich.
Here it is.
Please tell me whether you favor or oppose each of the following proposals President Obama has made to pay for the cost of the job bill.
Increasing taxes on some corporations by eliminating certain tax deductions, 70%.
Increasing income taxes on individuals earning at least $200,000 and families earning at least $250,000, 66%.
So the headline is, everyone loves it!
But then, question number 18, based on what you know or have read about the bill, which would be nothing, do you think it would help improve the economy or not help improve the economy?
So here we go.
No opinion, 4%.
Help a lot, 23%.
Help a little, 37%.
Not help, 36%.
In other words, people don't think it's going to work.
They don't think it's going to work.
Yeah, well it's probably because it's not going to work.
No, but that's not reported.
No, no, of course not.
That's what's so amazing.
But you heard it here on your No Agenda show and that is what we do for a living.
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I appreciate how all you guys read between the lines in Deconstructed News.
Sometimes it seems that all the news is just PR. Yeah, well, we just...
That's kind of what we've been saying.
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Which is bitchin'.
So, yeah, thank you all very much.
You're doing great work.
As always, it really warms my heart to see people.
It's not just the donations, which of course are incredibly important because that's how we pay bills.
I do nothing else except boring board meetings.
I do that twice a year.
Well, there you go.
So all I'm doing is this.
And John writes a couple columns, but he's got like 18 kids.
Boo!
And the way you can help us is very simple.
I will say that I'm very happy at the end of last week's show.
I said, hey, if you've been listening for two and a half hours and you're listening live on the stream, you should donate $10.
And four people did it.
I noticed.
That's 1%.
Yeah, great.
Good work.
You really sold them on that idea.
I'm going to try it again at the end of this show.
I was going straight down the spreadsheet to $10, like, hey, $4.
All right, that really worked.
Yeah, that was pretty awesome.
Yeah, we highly appreciate that.
But it is great.
And we also, of course, will accept checks.
If you go to dvorak.org.na, you can find the address.
Banks apparently can send them automatically.
Yeah, banks have a program of installment payments you can sign up for, and they will just send us a check to the post office box every month or every week or however you want to do it.
And it seems to work very well for a lot of people.
And it was kind of cool when I saw John in San Francisco.
I got in the car and he waits for me like a pimp outside.
And of course we immediately had to stop to see if his tire was flat.
It's like, we both had the same kind of car.
Tires like bald and going flat and stuff.
And he whips out a coin.
And you didn't...
I'm actually a little upset that you didn't give me the note because it was sent to the P.O. box.
Do you have it there by any chance, the note for the coin?
I asked downstairs.
I can read it on the next show if you're...
Or I can send it to you if you want the note.
It's an anonymous note from a guy calling himself Garth or something.
And it was packaged in some way.
There's no really traceable where it came from.
And the guy mentions that some people on the inside are listening.
And here's a coin to make up for the old coin you lost.
And it's a CIA challenge coin.
It's a CIA challenge coin.
Right from the souvenir shop in Langley.
So, by the way, I come home, I show it to Miss Mickey, and she says, I'm getting goosebumps.
And by the way, how come I didn't get a challenge coin?
You didn't lose one.
He sent one specifically for you.
Yeah, well, I'll tell you why.
I'll tell you why if you wait for a second.
And by the way, Andrew Gromit said that you wouldn't accept the coin because you know there's a listening device inside.
Well, this is exactly what Miss Mickey said.
So I come home and she said, I just got goosebumps.
I said, why?
I said, well, because look at the awesome work you guys are doing.
You have actual people on the inside of these companies who are really part of your army.
And she said, that's really, you have to understand the impact of the show on people who can actually make a difference when it's needed.
So, I'll take that, and I like that.
And then she said, but I don't think you should keep it on you.
She said, it's a targeting device for the drones.
Or it could be someone that could have a small explosive inside.
Who knows?
It's heavy.
Who knows?
It's very heavy.
It could have all kinds of gear in there.
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He turns 22 tomorrow on the 23rd.
Happy birthday, John.
And John Dvorak.
Buzzkill Jr.
Turns 22 today.
Happy birthday, Buzzkill Jr.
Thank you all for the work you do from your buddies here at the No Agenda Show.
We love you so much.
Oh, crap.
I chopped his head off.
He doesn't turn 22.
Where does it say that?
On the 22nd, I'm sorry.
Yeah.
How old is he?
He's older than 22, but I'm not going to say because I think now is the time you want to start lying about your age.
You've got to start early.
Get in early.
Yeah, exactly.
All right, let's grab our blades.
Can you get your Swiss army knife there, John, just for a second?
Douglas Garou.
And if we mispronounce it, you'll let us know.
We'll change that.
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And Hot Pants and Booze, right here for you.
Thank you.
Oh And for those of you who have not received a ring yet, if you are a Knight of the No Agenda Roundtable, we've had to put in a new order.
Because, of course, sizes is a problem.
It was a thinking mistake.
We made a mistake in thinking about this.
Well, the normal sizing spread, the spectrum of sizes, apparently doesn't match our listeners.
In the future, we should probably have more better accuracy when we make the order.
Stand by, John!
John, John, stop!
Before we get another badge.
John?
Stand back!
We have a newsflash!
There is news!
The war is over!
John, the war is over.
It's over.
Yes, the war is over.
We have a war?
Rejoice, the war is over.
What the Andromedan Council says to us are three things.
Number one, that the war with the Orion Gray and Draco Reptilian extraterrestrials has been won.
Number two, that the Earth is now in the process of dimensional shift to a new, light-filled, fourth-dimension world.
And number three, that a period of Earth changes with associated large celestial bodies is coming.
The Andromeda War with the Greys is over.
Yeah.
This is good news.
I heard that.
I heard that through the grapevine.
We've defeated them.
Yeah, the greys.
This is, uh, yeah.
So I'm, uh...
I was going to meet a grey one of these, like some years back.
I don't know the early days of the show.
So this is, uh, yes, I have.
No, it was a tall blonde, actually, not a grey.
Yeah, but this is really good news.
And I have, this is just the headline, so I'll be getting the full report after the show, and I'll be reporting on that Sunday.
So war is over.
The greys have been defeated by the Andromeda Council.
So, just going back to the CIA thing for a second.
I'm very pleased what is happening.
And a big part of this, of course, is me having my own mail server.
It's no longer going through Google.
And having PGP encryption.
I am now receiving documents from assistants to members of parliament in Gitmo Nation East.
And I've been asked not to mention which member of parliament, and obviously not who sent this to me.
But this is a...
I would think.
Yeah.
And we respect that anonymity.
Oh, yeah.
But this is a...
This is a note about HPV vaccinations and Gardasil.
And what this great human resource told me is, be on the lookout for lots of PR about Gardasil.
And so here is, it turns out, the Department of Health is currently evaluating tenders For the supply of a vaccine for the human papillomavirus, HPV, vaccination program.
So this tells us a couple of things.
That the government of the United Kingdom, Gitmo Nation East, is going to start injecting everyone.
It'll be girls and boys.
We know that they're on the boys' track as well.
And there are two vaccines that are being considered.
One is Cerverix.
That is from...
Let's see who makes Cerverix.
It doesn't say.
That may be Merck.
How do you spell it?
S-E-R-V-A-R-I-X. And the other one is Gardazil.
And the committee considered whether either of the two licensed vaccines should be recommended in preference over the other.
Both currently available vaccines protect against the HPV types that cause, and here they are, they're saying it in their documentation, that cause over 70% of all cervical cancers.
70%, so it's not like a cure.
And one vaccine also protects against HPV type 6 and 11 that cause around 90% of all genital warts.
HPV vaccines are subunit vaccines, and here's what, this is amazing information, made from the major protein of the viral coat or capsid of HPV. But it turns out that this is synthetic.
They've actually made a synthetic version of the virus, and they put that into the vaccine.
Which sounds kind of funky to me.
Here it is.
This is a VLP. VLPs mimic the structure of the natural virus but do not contain any viral DNA because they are virus-like particles.
So I read this that they have created a cancer virus that they say looks like something and they're actually injecting our children with that.
But anyway, the bottom line here is that you should be on the lookout for a lot of pro and con PR between Cerverix and Gardasil to see who's going to win the contract.
And I want all of our No Agenda Militia and Human Resources to be on the lookout for it because you're going to see this heated up big time.
To go for the big government contract of this vaccine which doesn't even cure everything and probably has injured, if not killed, lots of children.
And I'm very appreciative of our human resource for sending that to me.
So I've got a clip that is kind of interesting.
A professor at one of the Washington, D.C. universities was on book TV. On C-SPAN. C-SPAN, of course.
So he listened to too much.
And he dropped this little bomb.
He starts talking about the opium trade, and he's referring to opium poppies specifically.
And he brings up a little historical tidbit.
Which I know you'll find highly amusing because it fits in right with our whole schema of how the world operates.
But see if you can catch the little gem in this little commentary about opium in Afghanistan.
The incubator for a certain type of crop, which we now know, is opium.
So it's kind of an interesting story that Afghanistan had never been able to produce opium prior to 1950 when a USAID development project acidifies the soil such as to make this a productive area for opium.
Wait a minute.
They didn't even grow opium there?
Not until 1950 until the USAID folks came along and said, you know.
I got an idea.
Yeah.
That's clip of the day, John.
I'm giving you that one.
That's great!
They didn't even...
Oh my goodness.
This will work out great.
I haven't...
And then we'll come in and we'll protect it.
Wow!
That is...
That's pretty awesome.
So it's just a pH issue with the soil.
Yeah, we just had a little more nitrogen in there and we're all good to go.
Wow.
I don't know what to say about that.
Yeah, I don't have much either.
I mean, we can do a little more research and just confirm it, but it sounds good to go.
It sounds right.
USAID, perfect.
And that's under the Secretary of State, right?
Who was Secretary of State in 1951?
I think it was John Foster.
Hold on a second.
John Foster Dulles?
John Foster Dulles?
Must have been some shill.
No, I see.
What's his name?
His brother was...
These are the guys that started the CIA, by the way, coincidentally.
Uh-huh.
Let's see.
Secretary...
I think not!
Secretary of State, 1951.
That's how I'm going to do my search.
Let's see what comes up.
You said 1950, so I'm going to go with that.
Dean Acheson.
Dean Acheson.
Acheson, yes.
And who was Dean Acheson?
Who was that?
He was a government stooge.
Who was Dean Atchison?
He was a famous Secretary of State.
I never heard of the guy.
Well, of course not.
He was in 1950.
60 plus years ago.
Let's see.
His most famous decision was convincing President Truman to intervene in the Korean War.
Okay.
Yeah.
Alright.
Good guy.
He was also the...
Responsible for the Marshall Plan.
He helped design the Marshall Plan, which was, you know, basically rebuilding these countries.
And he also, he was preceded by George Marshall and then succeeded by John Foster Dulles.
Oh, he was the CIA guy, Dulles, one of the Dulles brothers.
He's the guy who started the modern CIA. And so it makes nothing but sense, because our take on things is that Afghanistan opium, from the get-go, is controlled by our government.
So, it kind of falls into place in some large scheme of things.
It's Drone Nation time.
Don't you mean donation time?
He means that it's not another story about drones.
That's right.
While everyone is looking at the Muffin Man.
We are building drones in Africa.
Fox's alert now, the U.S. expanding its drone program.
And get this, U.S. defense officials say, part of an escalating campaign on what might be the newest front against al-Qaeda.
Steve Santani is on this story.
Now, which countries are of concern, and how long has the U.S. been working on this, Steve?
Well, Bill, the U.S. official tells Fox News it's been more than a year that this has been in the works.
Two important factors coming together here.
The growing threat from Al-Qaeda in Yemen and Somalia, and the growing effectiveness and importance of unmanned drone aircraft.
According to this U.S. official that we talked to, the preferred location for a drone base was Ethiopia, but that took time to arrange.
In the meantime, we began flying drone missions from a base in the Seychelles Islands.
And now the newest piece in all this, a base in Saudi Arabia.
The base in Ethiopia is aimed primarily at the Somali militant group Al-Shabaab, but this system of bases will effectively cover the entire Horn of Africa and the Arabian Peninsula.
You know, we've covered...
This is awesome.
Let's get this down.
You have the Seychelles, which is a beautiful place, and they're putting a drone base there?
Well, the Seychelles, of course, was wiped out due to flooding.
And I think that now I'm thinking, like, hey, let's wipe this place out with a little bit of scalar weaponry.
Let's throw some water on that so then we can rebuild a base there that we're building drones on.
And then what was the other places?
One was Somalia and Saudi Arabia.
Was there going to be a base in Somalia?
I think that's what he said.
No, I don't think so.
I think it was to attack Somalia.
...activeness and importance of unmanned drone aircraft.
According to this U.S. official that we talked to, the preferred location for a drone base was Ethiopia, but that took time to arrange in the meantime.
It took time to arrange.
We had to kill some people.
There were too many damn Ethiopians.
I had to clear out the runway for the drones!
...time we began flying drone missions from a base in the Seychelles Islands.
And now the newest piece in all this, a base in Saudi Arabia.
Saudi Arabia.
The base in Ethiopia is aimed primarily at the Somali militant group Al-Shabaab.
Al-Shabaab!
But this system of bases will effectively cover the entire Horn of Africa and Arabian Peninsula.
This is great.
I'm so proud of us.
I'm so proud.
It's so great.
Well, it's good that they're...
You know, it saves a lot of money on gas.
You know, I got picked up by Tony the Terrorist.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, in San Francisco.
Yeah, yeah.
My guy, Tony the Terrorist.
Yeah, he's your inside man.
He's my inside man.
And so I asked him about Libya and Yemen, specifically.
Oh, I wish you would have asked him about Cyprus and Syria.
You know, it's only a 30-minute cab ride.
It's so hard.
Syria, he said, what did he say about Syria?
Well, let me just tell you what I remember.
Libya.
And Tony, of course, is a terrorist.
He drives a cab and he's a translator for insurance companies.
I think he's in the States.
I think all cab drivers are terrorists in some sense.
Yeah.
And I think he's here illegally.
The FBI keeps offering him a job.
Probably works for Mossad or something, for all you know.
Who knows, right?
But he says, okay, Gaddafi, this guy is an idiot.
So he says this was about two things.
He says, one, it was BP. And Tony's from Jordan, so he understands the region, let's put it that way.
He says it was about BP where most countries do a 90-10 split with the oil company.
So 10% will go to the host country.
Except for Saudi Arabia, he says.
They get an 80-20.
But Gaddafi said to BP, he said, look, we're going to turn it around.
You give us 80, we'll give you 20, or bring in the Chinas in.
So we knew that, right?
You and I had deconstructed that early on, that that was the problem with the Chinas.
But he says there was something else.
The reason why the French are in...
It's because Gaddafi had done a $40 billion weapons deal with the French.
The weapons show up.
It turns out it's all refurbished.
The old refurbished problem.
And Gaddafi went, I'm not paying for that.
I want it new.
This is refurbished crap.
I don't want refurbished.
It's a refurbished on the website.
Yeah.
I was pissing my pants.
It was refurbished.
Like, oh, wow, yeah, that's a problem.
And instead of Gaddafi saying, you know, well, here, I'll give you $20 billion for your refurbished crap, your reloads, effectively, he just said, screw it, I'm not paying anything.
So that's why the British and the French jumped into that.
Now, Yemen.
So I said, you know, what's the deal with the techno-experts in Yemen?
He said, no, Adam, listen!
Listen!
This is real!
But we don't understand.
So if you look at Randy Carvin's tweets, right, there's all like the martyrs and all of this and the wave of democracy sweeping across the nation and all this bull crap.
He says you have to understand there are hundreds of tribes in Yemen.
And there's essentially there's the two main tribes are the Ret and Which are actually connected through the Rothschilds, which of course stands for Red Shield, Rothschilds, Red.
And then you have the Hashet.
And it's very hard for anyone in the West to comprehend this, but the Hashet is basically a conglomeration of hundreds of tribes.
And Salam, the guy who's currently the president there, who, by the way, is illiterate, According to Tony the Terrorist, the guy absolutely cannot read.
He's illiterate.
He was kind of pushed to the forefront and said, okay, you be the president.
And these tribes go back thousands of years.
And this guy has just abused his position.
And that's why you see...
Actually, the BBC did a pretty good report, but we don't understand it.
See, we don't understand how these tribal feuds work.
And what's happening is, you know, there's tribes who, multiple tribes make up the military, and there are 60 million guns in Yemen, as we've discussed.
Everyone has guns.
Everybody in Yemen has a gun, but like serious hardware, not like a Glock or just an AR-15, you know, people got all kinds of stuff because they love their guns.
And so it's basically tribal warfare.
They're all just shooting each other up.
As you listen to this report, you can actually kind of understand that, but it has nothing to do with Arab Spring and whatever other bullcrap and martyrs that Randy Corvin is retweeting.
Is it your sense that the violence is escalating there?
Definitely.
This is the worst we've seen since the start of the revolution.
It's not a revolution.
...woken up today around 4 a.m.
by heavy explosions, and they've continued until now.
I still hear them.
They have not stopped, in addition to gunshots, machine guns.
This comes after two days of very violent attacks on protesters.
For the first time, RPGs and heavy artillery were used against pro-democracy activists that were unarmed.
Pro-democracy?
It's bullcrap.
It has nothing to do with pro-democracy.
In addition, of course, to the usual snipers.
So who is this woman?
She's someone with a scarf on her head.
With a phone.
Yeah, with a scarf on her head.
What?
Is it also made worse by the fact that the army now seems to be fighting within itself?
Yes, well, today's attack started when a Republican got shelved the military base of the 1st Brigade, which is the defective military that defected in March and joined the protesters.
Okay, so what's happening is, yeah, there are people who are protesting.
I mean, we've got protesters.
We've got protesters on Wall Street.
Yeah, on Wall Street.
Bring in the drones.
But they're caught in between warring tribes.
And I still don't understand it, but he explained it to me as best he could.
But he says, you know, just like horses.
He says, you know, in the Middle East, your lineage is extremely important.
And they trace this back...
Hundreds, if not thousands of years to understand what tribe you belong to.
And stuff gets explosive.
And let them all kill each other.
It's great.
They got guns.
But we should not be in there pretending like it's the Arab Spring and this wave of democracy and like we have to go and help.
Which I haven't seen a resolution for it, by the way.
So I don't know if that's going to happen.
I'm sure that our people...
I have a clue.
I said it's just the media that's making this crap up.
Well, yes.
So either they are totally stupid or they're making it up with an agenda which has just not quite been revealed yet.
Well, the agenda could be just nothing more than just, you know, creating a smoke screen and nothing to see here moment.
Another one.
But I'm thinking I've got to get Tony the terrorist on it.
I've got to interview him on the stream.
You've got to hear this guy explain it.
Yeah, no, I would like to hear, if you could do an hour with him.
Easily, yeah.
Here's how it goes.
Tony, what's going on in the Middle East?
And that's it.
And then your hour starts from there.
Just let him talk.
Ha, ha, ha.
Well, I want to hear about the Syria, which, you know, as we know, we saw this.
I predicted this when the New York Times did that one peculiar story out of the blue, that the Syria thing would be taken off the front page.
Off the table, right.
Completely.
Right.
But there's still something about Syria's relationship to Cyprus and the Russians that we don't know and we're not getting.
I'm not getting, I'm looking.
Well, would you be open to doing the call with Tony the Terrorist together?
Because you have questions, I have questions.
Yeah, I could do that.
We could do a double triangulation.
We could do a trio.
Yeah, I could ask him a couple of things.
If he's willing to do it, I mean...
Yeah, he'll do it.
As long as we don't identify him by his real name and just Tony the Terrorist.
Yeah, Tony the Terrorist is good.
It's a good name.
I'm Tony the Terrorist.
She needs a jingle.
And here's Tony.
And now everybody, it's Tony the Terrorist.
His name is Tony.
He's a terrorist.
It has to be something snappy like that.
Yeah.
Meanwhile, the Haqqani are getting a lot of free marketing.
Have you noticed this?
No.
Back up on this.
So we, you know, the Haqqani are, so we have the Al-Shabaab, we've got the Al-Qaiders, and the Haqqanis now are getting some free marketing, so I think something is going to happen with the Haqqanis.
Here's a clip.
Our biggest concern right now is to put as much pressure as possible on the Pakistanis to exercise control from their side of the border.
We've continued to state that this cannot happen.
We cannot have the Akanis coming across the border, attacking our forces, attacking Afghanistanis, and then disappearing back into a safe haven.
That is not tolerable.
And we have urged them to take steps.
Not tolerable.
So, you know, what is the U.S. going to do about it?
Well, it is well known that the CIA, for example, already operates drone attacks on the Pakistani side of the border.
Look for them to step up operations against the Haqqanis.
Why is this front and center right now?
Yesterday, of course, the former president of Afghanistan, Barnahunin Rabbani, who currently heads the peace effort to reconcile with the Taliban, was assassinated.
In his home by suicide bombers right in one of the most secure areas of Kabul.
They are looking at the possibility the Haqqanis were involved in the Rabbani assassination.
And as we were showing pictures a minute ago just last week, the Haqqanis said to be responsible.
For the attacks against the U.S. Embassy and ISAF headquarters that led troops to have to be on the roof of the military headquarters with their rifles firing back.
So the Haqqanis now really considered almost public enemy number one in Afghanistan.
There you go.
Public enemy number one.
Survey says...
So I think, yeah, to me it sounds like there's a Pentagon move to focus attention away from Al-Qaeda and the Taliban to the Haqqaners.
Huh, interesting.
Now look at this.
It's weird, right?
Eh, something's up.
I mean, when this stuff comes out like that, and this is a Pentagon correspondent, she's basically even saying it.
She's just standing there and saying it.
So, uh...
Political...
Actually, I pulled a couple of quotes because I do want to talk about Europe for a moment because we still have a little bit of time left.
I've got a couple of things we've got to get to before you...
Well, go ahead.
I'll look up my European quotes and what do you got?
Well, there's a couple of things going on that needs to be discussed.
One, we missed out on the Emmys.
I watched them.
You, uh, okay, that's enough.
And I do have some disgusting red carpet blather if you want to get sick, but I think we'll put that off.
Um, we can't ignore the fact that the two, uh, the two will play the release from Iran clip.
Oh, the hikers!
Yes, the hikers, yes.
The hikers who found that, well, play it.
I got two clips.
Smiles, tears, and a long kiss between Shane and Sarah Shore, his fiancée and fellow prisoner until one year ago this week.
We're so happy we are free and so relieved we are free.
Two years in prison is too long.
Too long for the families as well.
And he lasted 781 days and we couldn't be more proud.
And you lasted 781 days.
And so did she.
781 days in Iran's most notorious prison.
One month on hunger strike, protesting their detention.
A total of just 15 minutes in phone calls home.
And just one face-to-face visit in Iran.
One million dollars in bail.
Yeah, one million dollars.
What does a CIA agent work?
Oh, well I actually have a clip about where the money came from.
Play that, and then I want to talk about a couple of things, especially the comment of the mom.
By the way, the plane took off from, I guess, it's an Omani plane.
It took off from Iran and landed in Oman.
That's where the money came from.
The whole family was in Oman, and so was everybody.
All the relatives and everybody were there.
I don't know who forwarded the...
I mean, it's not cheap to fly there, but they flew everybody there for the photo ops.
And the mom said, you know, he was in jail for 780 days or whatever it was, and she said, I couldn't be more proud.
Well, why would she be proud of that?
Because, you know, it's patriotic, CIA. As opposed to saying, exactly, as opposed to saying, I'm so happy he's home.
I mean, I would say, I'm so happy he's back.
No, I'm so proud he was there for so long.
What?
No, here's the Oman bit.
Where here in Muscat, Oman, is that last year when Sarah Shored, the third hiker, when she was released on humanitarian grounds after bail had been posted, her first stop out of Tehran was to come to Muscat, Oman, and that was because Omani government officials had posted that $500,000 in bail that guaranteed her release.
A lot of speculation has been mounting that once the hikers leave Iran— That they will come here to Muscat Oman, as did Sarah Short last year.
A lot of speculation that their families are here in Oman, but Omani government officials right now just aren't commenting or confirming those reports.
Hey Mohamed, where do we think this bail money came from?
Is it the Omani government themselves?
Is it a conduit?
And why is the Omani government involved in this?
Well Ali, Oman is seen as a diplomatic rarity in the region because they have good relations with both Iran and the US. And Oman, at a time when there is so much strife in this region, they're trying to raise their profile.
They've been seen as a very low-key country on the world stage and especially in this region.
And they see, as we've heard from analysts, that at a time when there is so much strife in the Middle East, if they can do something to try to mediate a dispute between geopolitical powers like Iran and the U.S., it'll raise their profile, it'll make them look better on the world stage, and it will decrease tension here in the region.
Yeah, right.
Oh, crap.
Yeah, of course.
It's CIA agents.
These guys, they don't look like hikers.
Well, we've already determined this when we saw the coincidence between those women that were captured in North Korea, all the University of California, Berkeley, and then these guys from the University of California, Berkeley, and they don't look like hikers, indeed.
And, you know, there's a lot of places to hike in the world that are a lot more interesting than, well, play my second clip and you can hear this little, oh, nobody ever said that they were spies.
It's impossible.
They were just hikers.
What's the clip?
It's the second clip.
It says...
Hiking in Iraq, Kurdistan?
Yeah.
Okay.
Sorry.
Didn't really have any benefit.
They didn't achieve anything.
So when all is said and done, Karim Sajjapur, U.S.-Iran relations, any different, any better off, worse off, the same as a result of all this?
Well, they're worse off, unfortunately.
And I think that this has really further tarnished Iran's international reputation.
There's a new BBC pullout which says that Iran has now eclipsed North Korea as the least-liked nation in the world.
And I saw even on Facebook a young Iranian was commenting, and he said that, you know, what's sad about this is that these two young men never got to experience kind of the richness of Iranian culture, Iran's ancient history, the warmth of Iranian people.
All they saw was the inside of Abin prison, and now they're leaving.
And I think this really further isolates Iran internationally.
Does anyone think they were actually spying, as the Iranian government said?
No, I don't think anyone thinks they were actually spying, and the fact that the Iranian regime never wanted to try them publicly, they never produced a shred of evidence, I think, reveals the fact that they were doing what they said they were doing, which was hiking in Iraqi Kurdistan.
How did they get there?
How do you get to...
You go through a minefield.
You get through a minefield and you get all kinds of permissions.
You probably talk to one too many Iraqis who tipped off the Iranians.
Probably some station guys.
And the next thing you know, after you get to the minefield so you can go hiking...
Because there's no place to hike in the United States, for God's sake.
I mean, the Rocky Mountains, the Great Smoky Mountains, there's a million places you can go and do and see.
Real hiking.
But you'd rather go to some place where you don't know the floor, you don't know the fauna, you don't know what's going to bite you in the ass when you're just sleeping at night.
And that's where you're going to go hiking, because that makes nothing but sense.
And so, yeah, no, they weren't spying.
And by the way, when you look at them, if you're hiking, do you carry long pants with you?
Because they're all wearing long pants and they're not wearing hiking shoes.
You'd expect hikers to come out of jail wearing their hiking pants and their hiking gear and maybe have a backpack with them.
I wouldn't be wearing long pants if I'm hiking.
Would you bring long pants?
Of course.
If you're hiking?
You're going to get all scratched up otherwise.
Depends on where you're hiking.
What are you going to go?
Hiking naked?
I mean, what are you driving at?
I don't think they look like hikers is what I'm saying.
Well, I don't think they are hikers.
Duh.
This is like a screwball thing to do to begin with.
And then they have all this, you know, here's $500,000 to get the girl out, and here's another million to get, so it's $500,000 ahead.
So every person costs $500,000.
And this is, they soften it by calling it bail.
How's it bail?
Because the woman, why don't they go grab her and she jumped bail?
She was dying of cancer.
No, she was having a baby.
I thought it was a cancer thing.
I thought she was having a baby and they had to get her out of there.
Whatever the case is, do these guys get picked up for jumping bail?
I mean, no.
This is just a straight up and out bribe.
The whole thing is just a mess.
And you know what gets me?
On the C-SPAN show, they had one of these guys who wrote the book, Syriana.
And we played the clip.
And the guy...
He's a CIA guy.
He's worked for the CIA, still probably does.
And he went to Iran.
But he went in the front door.
And, you know, you could probably do that, but they figure, well, there's going to be people watching.
There must be something going on in those mountains that these kids really had to take a picture of, or they had to get some evidence.
I don't know what they were up to.
Who knows?
We'll never find out.
But this whole thing is suspicious.
That's an interesting point.
What's in the mountains?
What's going on there?
Yeah, in that area.
That's a good point.
Have we ever seen a good map of where they were?
And, you know, is Google Satellite covering it?
I mean, what's the deal?
No, no, no.
A little intermezzo.
A little bit of fun.
What's the girl's name on Morning Joe?
She's Brzezinski's daughter.
Her.
Yeah.
Hold on.
Yeah.
All right.
Tom Brokaw, thank you very much.
Thank you, Tom.
Rob, will you hang around?
I will do that.
Why not?
Coming up, Simon Hobbs is standing next to a giant pile of cash.
Where are you, Simon?
I'm coming.
She's coming.
Yeah, I heard that.
Because of the big bale of cash.
Just like her dad.
I'm coming.
Stand back, I'm coming.
For your big pile of cash.
We both got that thing in the email showing all the federal program for slave labor through the prison system.
Yeah.
So, you know, we realize that, you know, they're basically looking for any excuse to lock people up because we need the cheap labor.
Right.
But some of these federal crimes are pretty dubious.
We talked about this, but I didn't have the clip before.
I said I was going to get the clip.
Al Franken on federal crime.
Both Franken's questions are interesting, but then the guy kind of gave him a shut-up slave.
Well, you know, we're thinking about it.
We can't do this.
We can't do that.
Answer.
This is at a government hearing on cybercrime.
Senator Franken.
Thank you, Mr.
Chairman.
Mr.
Baker, I want to ask you a question to follow up on a question from Chairman Leahy.
In recent cases, the Department of Justice has actually argued that the violation of a website's term of service or an employer's computer use policy can constitute a federal crime under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.
In other words, under this interpretation of the statute, people could conceivably be guilty of a federal crime for checking their Gmail or their weather if their employer's computer policy prohibits them from using their computers for personal reason.
Two federal judges have found this reading of the statute to be unconstitutional because people don't read those policies, and when they do, they can be, as you know, long and complex and full of fine print.
Don't you think it'd be worthwhile to somehow address the concerns of those federal judges in updating this statute?
So as I said earlier, Senator, thank you for that question.
As I said earlier, we're happy to work with folks to address these kinds of concerns.
I think that the challenge is to address those concerns and at the same time not create a significant loophole that would allow somebody, for example, who worked at the Social Security Administration, the IRS, The U.S. passport office or a bank to take information in violation of their employer's policies and misuse it for some purpose, either to spy on somebody that they know or to take information and pass it to others to actually steal money.
So I think this insider case...
Where somebody violates the rules of their employer using a computer is a very challenging thing to address and at the same time address the types of concerns that you suggest.
The difficulty is that...
So what is he saying?
He's saying, screw it, we're keeping it in the way it is and if you do something and we want to arrest you for a federal crime because you checked your email, then that's what we're going to do.
That's what he says.
Love it!
That's great.
Yeah, they get tough.
We need more prisoners.
Labor costs are going too high.
It's almost $9 an hour.
We can get a prisoner for 10 cents.
Well, funny you bring this up because, of course, now we know that in the past 15 years, I think, we've gone to 3 million slaves in prison.
The number's higher than that.
And most of them African American, most of them...
Oh yeah, well that makes sense.
They're slaves.
Yes.
Most of them on drug charges.
And now that we are starting to integrate the United States of North America, or the Americas I should say, which would be Canada, America, and Mexico...
Canada has passed a bill which puts, I mean, we need to expand.
We have enough slaves here in commercial prisons.
Now we're going to do it in Canada.
Keep that promise.
The government has rolled nine bills into one mega bill.
It's dubbed the Safe Streets and Communities Act.
It promises new mandatory minimum sentences for violent offenses and offenses against children.
Stiffer penalties for organized drug crime and human trafficking.
No more house arrest and no more pardons for violent crimes.
Adult sentences for violent young offenders and longer maximum sentences.
For growing marijuana, for example, the maximum doubles from 7 years to 14.
Combined, these measures will strengthen our justice and immigration systems and will have a significant and positive impact on our ability to keep our citizens safe.
But the opposition calls it a waste of money.
Their ideological bent that punishment will deter crime flies in the face of absolutely all the evidence.
For us to be spending additional hundreds of millions of dollars in sending kids to jail because they've got six marijuana plants in their house.
This is truly stupid.
It's great!
Experts on the prison system also objected, saying crime has been dropping for 20 years and that prisons are overcrowded already.
The corrections system in Canada is already in crisis.
Provincial, territorial and parts of the federal system are so crowded that they may well be violating Section 12 charter protections against cruel and unusual punishment.
The government says it will build more prison cells, but its critics say that won't make Canadians safer, just poorer.
We're talking about many, many tens of billions of dollars.
I don't know how much it is.
I think the government has a fiduciary obligation to you, to me, to all Canadians, to disclose exactly what that is.
But the government declines to put a price on its plan.
Instead, it argues that letting criminals roam free costs even more.
Yay!
It's about time the Canadians get some of our medicine.
Yeah, so, yeah, I find it interesting, the coincidence, that crime's dropping, but prison population's increasing, so there's crowding.
How does that work?
Well, you get six marijuana plants, you go to jail for 14 years.
14 years!
Dream up more crime, you know, you make more laws that make everything a crime, make checking your email, potentially a crime.
Crime, crime, crime.
You could bust everybody.
Okay, there's 2.2.
3 million people incarcerated at the moment, but 7.2 million adults under correctional supervision, in other words, in probation, parole, or prison.
About 3.1% of adults in the U.S. are in jail, which is the highest per capita in the world, I might add, and the most in total.
And 70% of them are non-white.
Right.
Awesome.
Awesome.
Yeah, and there's a prison labor system which has been developed over the last decade or two where they basically compete with private enterprise.
Making stuff.
Furniture is one of the big ones.
Yeah, this is great.
We're doing good.
By the way, it's probably going to be a good place to be in prison.
Well, I think when the people can't get work, they at least can get a 10 cent an hour job, you know, which is, again, showing that the Republicans are right, that minimum wage is killing the private industry.
All right, I gotta...
Get rid of the minimum wage and the prison population will just evaporate.
Yeah.
Let me skip around Gitmo Nation.
A couple of things I need to talk about.
First of all, Gitmo Nation lowlands.
Now, John, I'm linking to this in the show notes, 341.nashownotes.com.
A video.
Now that I haven't lived there for a long time, the absurdity of it all kind of hit me, and I really scoured the interwebs to find the true information, and it's not being reported, of course, in the Dutch press.
On the third Tuesday of every year, the finance minister, which in this current administration is a former ICT guy who was brought in initially to fix the computer system.
So basically the Vivek Kundra of the Netherlands all of a sudden became the finance minister or secretary of their treasury.
He presents, in a briefcase, to the Queen the budget, known as the millionen nota, which should be milliarden nota, because it means millions instead of billions.
And they dub this Princesdag, known as Prince Day.
So there's all these memes in there.
And the Queen of the Netherlands, and the Prince, and his smoking hot Argentinian wife, who is, oh man, a milf and a half.
Maxima.
Get in the golden chariot, which is made of real gold, and they trot along the streets.
Clippity-clop, clippity-clop.
And then the queen does her annual address, which of course I can't play because it's all in Dutch.
And so I go to the official website.
And they have a video, and they have the full text of what she said, but that's not what the video shows.
No, because we don't want you to get smart.
The video shows everyone waving and flags, and everyone, oh, and there's the queen and her golden chariot made of pure gold, and they're all waving.
By the way, panels on this chariot have slaves making offers to the queen depicted on it.
Yeah, it's great.
And then she goes, Hello, subjects of the lowlands.
We are facing dire economic times.
We will have to cut back.
Since we are all living longer, we will have to work longer.
And then they cut out the whole middle part and go straight to, So we will invest in education for the children of the lowlands.
And then it's back to clippity-clop, clippity-clop.
And they're all there at the palace waving to the slaves down below.
And the absurdity of this, as I read through what's actually happening.
So, retirement age, up.
And then they come out with a, right in the documentation, which of course I can read because I read Dutch, they did a study with TNS NIPO, which sounds really official.
TNS NIPO, which is owned by WPP, the advertising and marketing firm.
So essentially they bought a survey, and it turns out that the Dutch people, according to the survey, absolutely think it's a great idea to reduce your mortgage deduction.
Right now it's at 50%.
You can deduct 50% of your mortgage from your taxes.
They think an overwhelming majority of people think it would be perfectly okay to reduce that to 40% or 30%.
Hold on a second.
Who in their right mind would think this is a great idea if they're actually getting this deduction?
Oh, I have an idea.
Tax me more.
Does it make sense to anybody?
Of course not.
It's such a PR job, but they do it so well with the golden chariot and everyone's like feeling good and we love our queen, clippity-clop, clippity-clop, with her golden chariot, with the slaves depicted on the side.
And the next day, I'm like, where is all the news that you're going to get screwed with more taxes?
Nothing.
Pictures of the Queen, clippity-clop, clippity-clop.
Well, I don't see that our news is that much better.
No, but we do have a lot of people who listen and support the show from the Netherlands, so that's kind of important.
Now, continuing with Europe.
So today the markets once again are in turmoil.
I believe if you were to buy a Greek bond, the current rate of return is what now, 125%?
The long-term bond is a little risky.
But it's 125% return.
I know it was 80% last time I looked.
It went up to 125%.
So now we are in economic...
This is basically taking your investment money and putting it on red.
Yeah, right.
Definitely red, not black.
But of course, what has been planned for a long, long time since 1956 is to consolidate the political power.
And Steck, actually, one of our legal listeners, pointed out that the term European Economic Governance is the same as EEG. Which is synonymous to brainwave scanning and brain manipulation.
I thought that was kind of interesting.
He saw that EEG, European Economic Governance.
But here are some quotes to tell you, because they're just coming out and saying it.
This is from Luxembourg Finance Minister Frieden.
It's become obvious that this has been the plan all along.
If you have a currency union, you certainly also need more elements of a political and of economic union.
That was clear from the outset when we started this project some 10-15 years ago.
Then we have former German Chancellor Gerhard Schröder.
The current crisis makes it relentlessly clear we cannot have a common currency zone without a common fiscal, economic and social policy.
We will have to give up national sovereignty.
From the European Commission we should make a government which would be supervised by the European Parliament and that means a United States of Europe.
Now you can go back in our show notes and see that we have consistently called Europe the United States of Europe.
Now let's the new IMF chief, Christine Lagarde, the IMF who today just came out and said, or yesterday, the entire world is on the brink of a financial collapse.
This is the IMF.
Yeah.
She warned that developed economies have entered into, quote, a new dangerous new phase because of a vicious cycle, a weak economic growth and feeble political leadership.
Without collective bold action, there's a real risk that the major economies slip back instead of moving forward.
Incidentally, debt was not mentioned.
then we have George Soros He's the guy you always got to watch.
Soros warned, even if a catastrophe can be avoided, one thing is certain.
The pressure to reduce deficits will push the Eurozone into prolonged recession.
This will have incalculable political consequences, leaving no room for discussion.
There is no alternative but to give birth to the missing ingredients.
A European treasury with the power to tax and therefore to borrow.
That is what the elites are saying and what is going to happen.
And it's going to happen in the next month.
In the next month this is going to happen.
We're seeing unbelievable history unfolding in front of our very eyes.
The sooner they do it, the sooner it'll trigger the cascade effect resulting in the civil war that we've been predicting also, which is going to create World War III. Who do you think is going to fight who first, though?
That's my question.
Well, there's always going to be the Germans and the French.
That's never been resolved.
This is the one issue that just always cracks me up.
The Germans and the French fought during the Napoleonic Wars.
It was never resolved.
They fought in World War I. It was never resolved.
They fought in World War II. It was never resolved.
They're still a Germany and they're still a France.
Obviously, these two countries cannot coexist.
Who will win?
We will, the USA, of course, with our drones.
We're number one.
Cool with our drones.
I've got to give you an in the morning.
That's good.
Yeah, Germany and France at war.
Yeah, that's probably good.
Yeah, it's going to happen.
But will it be a traditional war?
Will it be ground troops?
Well, that's the question.
Because every war, these wars, like the first world war, I mean, the Napoleonic Wars were one sort of war.
Then you had the trench warfare, which was a disaster in World War I. Then you had modern warfare, mechanized warfare in World War II. Now, I don't know.
It could be anything.
I mean, who's got the advantage in a fight?
And what kind of a fight would it be?
You can't nuke each other.
No, that would suck.
You can cyber each other.
Cyber, yeah.
Cyber.
You can go economic and try to break these back.
You know, cyber is synonymous with cyber sex.
I don't think they're going to cyber each other.
No one wants to cyber Merkel, let's be honest.
And so there could be any...
We don't know.
I mean, we have no idea that this has entered a new unknown area.
I mean, this has always been the case with warfare, historically.
You know, somebody dreams up some new weapon or some new crazy thing, and then they take over.
It's the Bunga Bunga Showdown.
It's going to be great to cover, though.
It's going to be great to duck and cover.
Just a quick callback to the previous show.
I did some research since I said I would.
Apparently, Rick Santorum, of course, if you Google Rick Santorum, you come up with the first hit is the frothy mix, as what a Santorum is.
Rick Santorum apparently did contact Google about his Google problem.
Well, good, because they should have.
He says, I suspect if something was up there like about Joe Biden, they'd get rid of it.
If you're a responsible business, you don't let things like that happen, but Google just said, screw you, we're not changing anything.
Google does take action against Google-washing.
I don't understand what the deal is here.
The problem with Santorum is he's such a weenie.
He should be making nothing but...
He's embarrassed to tell the public that this is there, even though everybody knows.
He should just make the biggest fuss, and if I was him, I would demand a congressional hearing on this and take Google right in front of Congress and say, look, you've killed these things before in the past.
Why aren't you killing this?
Why...
What are you doing?
What political agenda are you promoting?
And threaten Google, and Google would back off, and that thing would disappear, but he hasn't got the guts to do it.
I want to see that because it would be great to have someone actually on C-SPAN in Congress say, look, frothy mix.
For some reason, he won't do it.
He's kind of cornered himself.
He's too wimpy to take it on head-on.
So they're just laughing.
Everyone at Google goes, eh!
That should be on ABC, NBC, CBS. Frothy Mick should be allowed.
Alright, something you will not...
Before you play out, I got the one life of a cow you have to play just as a little piece of education.
We have no education, little stuff, agriculturally, that needs to be on the show, and this is the life of the cow clip.
Left to nature, a cow produces about 10 pounds of milk per day, which is what it takes to meet the needs of her calf.
Over the years, we have tinkered with her biology, and she now produces about 100 pounds of milk per day.
This high productivity is good for business, but maybe not so good for the cow.
The normal lifespan of a cow could be up to about 20 years, but under the strain of high milk yields, she wears out in just a few years.
She is then sent to slaughter.
Just like the slaves.
Yeah.
Milk her to death and get rid of her.
Get rid of her.
And because of the actions of these persons who commit, threaten to commit, or support terrorism, continue to pose an unusual, extraordinary threat to national security form policy and economy of the United States, the national emergency declared on September 23rd, 2001, and the the national emergency declared on September 23rd, 2001, and the measures adopted the date to deal with that emergency, must continue, in effect, beyond September 23rd, 2001.
Therefore, in accordance with Section 202D of the National Emergencies Act, I'm continuing for one year.
The national emergency, with respect to persons who commit, threaten to commit, or support terrorism.
So we continue our state of emergency for another year by Executive Order 13224, declared today by Barack Obama.
Well...
1-3-2-2-4.
Well, I guess that kind of flies in the face of what the progressive expected from this guy when they got him elected.
Hope and change!
How you doing?
Yeah.
And we could go on for hours.
Unfortunately, no one has that kind of patience.
No, I think they're already bored.
Now, if you are one of the...
Let me see.
It's a Thursday, so...
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