Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 319er.
This is no agenda.
Combating mass mind control from the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in the People's Republic of Southern California, which I will soon say adios mofos.
In the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where we've got the fireworks if you missed them on the 4th, I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill!
In the morning!
I gots me a bell now, too.
Oh, you did?
Yeah.
A sound engineer actually said, Hey man, I don't know if you or John is playing that clip of that bell.
It sounds really crappy.
Let me give you a high-quality version.
Dude, it's a real bell.
It's crap?
So he sent me a high-quality ding.
My bell's sitting on the desk over here.
If I put it closer to the microphone like this and tapped it, it would probably be more to his light.
Hey, listen to that.
We have different tones.
Hit yours.
When's the tea?
So, um...
Hey, how you doing?
We want to mention right off...
Hey, how you doing?
Hello, Adam.
How about an in the morning?
How about an in the morning?
In the morning!
Hey!
Well, we do have one bad note that we want to mention.
One of our members of the No Agenda family passed away on the 4th of July.
Bubba Martin, who was our first...
Posted the early No Agenda shows with copious notes on everything we talked about.
And those shows are still as posts or classics.
Yeah.
Because we've never done that since.
Because he fell ill with something.
We don't know what it was.
He would never tell us.
He would never talk about it.
I've chatted with him and it didn't help.
And he finally, unfortunately...
And you can go to...
If you have condolences, please go to the Dvorak.org slash cage match.
Where he was one of the co-moderators.
Yeah.
It's a very sad day.
I know he was sick, and he would drop out of the picture for months at a time, and he'd come back and say, hey, I almost died, but I'm back.
Yeah, he would do that all the time.
And he'd always say that.
He'd say, yeah, I almost died this time.
Did you ever tell us what the deal was?
No.
I'm going to miss him.
I'm going to miss crazy old Bubba.
Yeah, well...
How does that feel?
Does it get easier to miss people as you get older?
Does it get like, oh well, you know, whatever?
Are you just waiting for Europe?
I think it's always the same.
I think once you've realized that this is going to happen to people, I think it's a steady state, personally.
It doesn't seem to get worse or better.
Oh boy, oh boy.
The new Skype is doing great.
Hello?
Hello?
Yeah.
See, I knew it.
Hello?
Hello?
Oh, John, John.
Oh, yeah.
I lost you completely.
Oh, boy.
Oh, boy.
It's the new Skype.
Yeah, Microsoft.
Now, hold on.
Hold on.
No, no, no.
Hold on.
John, John, hold on.
We got to reinitiate contact because you're not hearing what I'm saying.
There's a huge delay.
I'm going to call you right back.
I'm hearing everything you say.
Yeah, but you're hearing me 15 seconds late.
Oh.
Oh, hold on.
Just leave it to professionals, okay?
Let's try it again.
Oh, now how do I figure out this damn Skype interface?
Oh my goodness.
What?
Call this person?
No, I don't want to call this person.
I don't know how to make it work.
Oh no!
The new Skype interface.
It says call phone.
No, call Skype.
Oh, I can't.
There we go.
Oh my god.
You there?
You know, they've changed the interface where I couldn't even figure out how to call you.
Wow.
Yeah, it said call phone.
And I call the phone and it pops up a box and says, what's his number?
I want to call you on Skype.
You've got to hit a drop down now.
They're like forcing you to make phone calls.
This is not good.
That's not good.
Alright, so I'm sorry.
Continue about Bubba.
Well, I was saying that it doesn't get easier, it doesn't get harder, it doesn't really change that much.
I think people dying is highly annoying.
Yeah.
It's a shame because Bubba was a very big contributor to a lot of stuff that we did early on.
And that cage match, which he was a big part of.
Hopefully we'll continue on.
We've got Harrison there.
Who has picked up the slack.
Anyway, and in the morning to all the human resources in the chat room, charged up and ready to go just the way the government loves them as we are broadcasting live today.
As per usual, every Sunday and Thursday at noagendastream.com.
We've got a chat room, noagendachat.net.
And yeah, so rest in peace, Bubba.
You will be missed.
So, Johnny Boy, I think we're in big, big trouble in the United States of Gitmo Nation.
Something happened this week which really disturbed me deeply.
Did you notice anything?
Well, there's a bunch of stuff that happened.
Which I have my own take on.
I mean, of course, there's two distractions of the week.
One in Gitmo Nation East, which is the cell phone hacking.
And then the one on our side of the water is the Casey Anthony court case, which seems to have chewed up everybody's time.
Well, that's the one I want to talk about briefly.
Because, now we've identified a new meme, and by the way, this is the kind of thing I believe that the drinking club, the Bilderberg group, probably discusses when they're all hanging out.
So I have a feeling that during their last meeting, or maybe the one before, they all sat down and said, you know what, it's time to get rid of that stupid constitution.
This is annoying and it's in our way.
And we've been noticing this anti-Constitution meme.
I think we first picked up on it when that Farik GPS CNN dude, the Pakistani American, I still want to see his green card, started basically saying, well, it was written in a dark, dank, dusty room, and they couldn't imagine terrorists.
So this guy is still all over the place.
Yeah, they didn't know anything about global warming.
Yeah, of course not.
So with this...
And don't forget the Time Magazine cover story.
The Time Magazine cover story with the Constitution actually shredded at the bottom.
So here's what's happened.
For those of you who don't know, this Casey Anthem, if you're not in the United States of Gitmo Nation, you probably don't know about it or only heard about it briefly.
It's been going on for three years.
Very short, a little girl dies, and as it turns out, she drowned in the swimming pool.
Her mom, very young mother, tried to cover it up, came up with all kinds of scenarios, and she's been incarcerated for this three-year trial.
And by the way, this has been almost the sole ratings driver for headline news, particularly Nancy Grace.
Yeah, and it also became a ratings driver for Anderson Cooper at CNN and a lot of other stations, and MSNBC also got in on it.
And so, of course, what happens is we've had all these so-called lawyers, some of them actually used to be lawyers or were lawyers or whatever, who are television talking heads.
And they've been just presenting all the evidence and how this is horrible, and she killed her daughter, and she's a horrible person, she killed her daughter so that she could go out and party, and it's become an obsession over the past three years for the unawakened human resources here in Gitmo Nation.
So what happens is, after 33 days of trial, could you throw it in my face please, Bilderberg, thank you, The jury basically acquits her and says, you know what, she's not guilty.
She is guilty of lying to the police, which is a pathological liar.
She was believed she was abused as a child and is kind of screwed up.
Right.
So there's a lot going on there.
But, now this is the important part.
A jury of her peers, this is the way that, this is, I would say, and is this the, which amendment is the jury of your peers, John?
Is that Fourth Amendment, I think?
It's not an amendment, it's in the Constitution.
It's in the Constitution, right.
And by the way, I have been in courts in other countries and I've always gone like, what?
Some douchebag judge is going to determine?
No, no, no.
Where's my jury of my peers?
I go like, son, you're not in America, son.
You're here in the lowlands where the professional judges determine what's going to happen.
So the way it's supposed to work is you get a jury of your peers and if they believe that you're innocent until your guilt has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt, which I think is a pretty good system.
Now, of course, it's been manipulated.
You know, there's all kinds of, you know, the jury selection process is very specific.
And, of course, no system where you're judging anybody can ever work 100% of the time.
But from personal experience, I'll tell you, I'd much rather have a jury of my peers, 12 of them, who are going to determine my fate versus a professional judge.
And there's a whole reason behind that.
But what has happened is, because the, and I just have to say the slaves here, have been so indoctrinated by Nancy Grace, by Anderson Cooper, by all of these talking heads, that they are outraged that the jury said, you know what, we've looked at all the evidence, we're a jury of peers, we're just doing our job.
Yeah, they didn't have anything.
There was no evidence.
That was the problem.
But let me just finish.
This is really important.
Because what is now going on is all across the media, mainstream, people are freaking out.
And saying two things.
One, this is ridiculous.
It's horrible.
This can't be.
And they're actually calling now for professional jurors.
This is a pure attack on the American Constitution and the way the justice system works here.
Let me give an example.
This is from St.
Louis.
There's some douchebag DJ, morning DJ, called Cornbread.
If you can believe it.
And they keep cutting from a television news morning show.
They keep cutting back to this guy.
And this is the kind of stuff that is being propagated.
Good morning.
I've never seen the radio show so emotionally charged.
And I'm trying to figure out what is the emotional connection.
Why are people so concerned about this case?
And I think it's just we don't like when there's unfairness out there.
We don't like when something's been hijacked.
and I think a lot of people are thinking that that might be the problem with our supposedly the best justice system in the world.
Hi, good morning Cornbread.
Our justice system has failed this little girl.
If the mom didn't do it, then who did it?
And are they going to actually try and go after somebody?
When I heard the verdict, I just actually started crying yesterday because it just breaks my heart.
Like you said, Maki could figure this one out.
You know, go on Facebook because what people are saying on Facebook, some of the language actually frightens me a little bit of how upset people are about this verdict.
Yes, sir.
Good morning, Mr.
Cornbury.
Good morning.
Sometimes I wonder about the justice system.
All the evidence shown against the little girl was right there in the trunk.
Are they stuck on stupid, sir?
I totally agree.
Another O.J. Simpson.
Duh!
I love your show on Channel 5 here.
Yes, I love your show on Channel 5.
Everywhere you look, it's one side or the other.
this guy things a little different record you have a bloodbath on a real quick we get in the courtroom apparently the jury didn't feel that they prove the case innocent or proven guilty in this time uh...
i'm a reasonable man I mean, anybody with common sense, if there's chloroform in your trunk, why?
That's evidence.
If there's a bag and duct tape that came from your house in the woods with the little girl, that's evidence.
If you don't say something about your child for 30 days, is there a parent among us?
The point is...
This cornbread guy, for one thing, they never...
That whole core form in the trunk thing turned out to be a red herring and it was never proven.
This guy is a douchebag.
I don't think he has any influence whatsoever except a bunch of with morons that listen to his show.
I'm in total disagreement with you.
I don't think there's any movement at all going on.
I think it's just the opposite.
Oh, no, no, no, John.
Everybody is outraged and they are now...
Just go ahead and Google right now, consult the book of knowledge, should we have a professional juror system?
This is the meme that is now being injected and put it in the book for, I'll even say by Sunday, you're seeing this everywhere.
Anderson Pooper will do it.
Everyone's going to be, should we have professional jurors?
Now that justice has failed this dead child.
watch did I lose you?
No, I'm writing it in the book.
Nice.
And I'll tell you why I say this.
Two things.
One, I mean, yeah, I'm sure all these lunatics out there that listen to Nancy Grace and take it as gospel are all into this.
But the New York Times is not into this at all.
They had one very objective story about the case, and that was all they ran.
It was on the front page yesterday or the day before.
And then if you listen to the right-wing talkers who have much more influence than these morning chat guys in terms of political movements, in terms of political action...
And it starts off with Sean Hannity, who is probably the most womanly of all these guys.
And he, now it says that this case was ridiculous.
The woman was not guilty.
They had no case against her.
There was no evidence.
And he went on, he spent a whole show on it, and then did it again on television.
And all the other right-wingers did the same thing, and they'd gone back to politics, bashing Obama mostly, to get back on the real track of things.
This is a huge distraction, and at least these guys realized it.
Okay, well, we can agree to disagree, and you've written it down in the book, and I guarantee you this is another subtle attack on the Constitution.
I'm not saying it's not an attack, but this is ongoing.
And I have a couple of clips that have Clinton basically kind of attacking things.
Bill.
I don't know.
I thought this story was a...
And I think it'll be forgotten in about two or three weeks.
Which one is this?
On the Declaration of Independence?
We'll get to that in a little while.
I think in two or three weeks this will be a forgotten story, especially when it comes...
I think the real point, if I was going to be arguing about the whole case, I would say this is a classic example of...
Of why we need a jury system, because this was another case, especially in Florida, this happens all the time where you have prosecutors that are overstepping their authority and going for the kill.
They went out of their way to try to find a pre...
They accused her of premeditated murder.
John, I think it's unnecessary for us to debate the legality of the trial.
I don't care about the trial.
I don't care about her.
You cared enough about it to spend the first 15 minutes on it.
No, I know.
Dude, what are you talking about?
I do not care.
What I care about is that people are now calling for a change in the way the justice system works.
That's what I'm talking about.
Well, they've been doing that forever.
I mean, I don't think this is a new thing, and I don't think it's going to get anywhere.
I should hope not.
I think you're right, though.
I mean, this is a case of just trying to destroy.
I think destroying the Constitution is different than this.
I think the real action when it comes to destroying the Constitution is to slip in a bunch of non-legal stuff about global warming.
This is what they're doing in Iceland.
I'm just looking at the Iceland model.
They want to put in stuff about social justice, about global warming, and all these other things in the Constitution in Iceland.
You want to hear Farid?
I don't want to...
Yeah, I don't.
But play him.
Welcome back.
Still with us, Freed Zakaria and Simon Shama.
So, the Tea Party's invocation of the Constitution, is it ahistorical?
Does it misinterpret at its essence what this Constitution has been for the entirety of our nation's history?
Well, I think that they're right to recognize that America is unique and that it has...
Hold on a second.
Stop!
Why are they asking him?
And it gets worse because the guy sitting with Farik...
You know who that is, right?
What's his spitzer?
Yeah, the spitzer who just got canceled.
Spitzer's been taken off the air.
As predicted.
As predicted.
And Pooper's next.
Yeah, no, it's worse.
They're talking to Farik and some English dude.
Some Brit is on the show talking about the Constitution.
And he...
You gotta hear it.
At its core, not a blood and soil nationalism, but a document.
A document about political ideas.
And we should cherish them.
And we should debate them.
But where they're wrong, I think, is in thinking that it points in any one simple monolithic direction.
It really is this brief document that allows you to fill in the blanks over the...
You know, the last 222 years.
I'm sorry, John.
In case you didn't know, the Constitution is just a brief document that lets you fill in the blanks.
Yeah, so are the Ten Commandments.
Yeah.
Ooh, thank you.
They've been in business for a couple thousand years.
Hold on.
I got an idea.
Let's rewrite the Ten Commandments.
Good.
I like that.
Good one.
That should be a...
We could get global warming in there.
That should be a talking points email.
Yeah, we need a global warming that thou shalt not pollute the earth.
Yeah.
Thou shalt not bear false witness or covet thy neighbor's donkey.
Or is it wife?
I can't remember.
What's the difference?
Yeah, so this is...
Don't play play.
I want to hear more of this.
Filled with disagreements from the founding fathers onward.
And so the idea that you can magically say, the Constitution says this, and it, you know, people keep saying, well, what would Madison have said about modern drug policy?
What would Washington...
I mean, who knows?
The world they knew was so different.
What do you mean?
They all smoked dope back then.
It was not that different.
Different was it?
Apparently very...
- You can't have high speed rail. - Of course you have to, you have to, whether you call it modernize it or interpret it. - Listen to the Brit guy.
- Differently, of course you have to do it.
There is one very good thing, I think, that could happen out of the Tea Party obsession with the Constitution.
I agree with Fareed that when we're talking about what the framers had in mind, we're talking about an extremely polarized debate amongst them.
The good thing that could happen would be, I think, since we are now faced with the moment in American history when there's radical polarization, there are two halves of the country, Who have unutterably, incommensurably different views.
Dude, that, what a dick!
That's so not true.
That's what they want.
For us to be completely opposed and hate your neighbor.
But it's not true.
People aren't only Democrat or Republican or red or blue.
There's all...
Everyone has...
Everyone...
There's gray about what the federal government should be.
Let us have...
Not literally a constitutional convention.
Let us have a great convention of debate.
Yeah.
Okay.
Let's do that.
They're trying to get rid of it.
Now...
No, I know they are.
This is what's going on.
Here's one more important thing.
From President Obama's tweet-up, which we have to talk about.
Oh, okay.
Let's stop for a minute.
You watched it, right?
I watched it, and I tracked all of the tweeters in real time.
Can we back into it with one of the questions?
Yes, but before we do, I want to make sure that people go check out a video or a picture of it so you can visualize...
What it looked like on stage.
Yeah.
There's Jack Dorsey, one of the co-founders of Twitter, in a suit, jacket, too tight, with a broom handle up his ass.
The guy was like, and he was sitting at 90 degrees to the camera, so he was a complete profile the whole time, and he was stiff, and he had his back arched, and he wasn't pushed against the back of the chair, and he was just, he looked like a guy with a stick up his butt.
That's kind of what I said.
So, I want to back into this, but one of the questions was something that we've discussed on the show, is this 14th Amendment, which will not work, but there's a big, a reasonably big call out there for the President to invoke the 14th Amendment,
which means we maintain the full faith and credit of these United States of America, and therefore need to raise the debt ceiling, part of that charade, that WrestleMania, American Idol, The show that's going on right now, whether we're going to raise the debt limit ceiling or not.
So this question comes up, and the President propagates the anti-Constitution meme.
Typically the debt ceiling.
And this is formulated in our next question from Renegade Nerd out of Atlanta.
Mr.
President, will you issue an executive order to raise the debt ceiling pursuant to Section 4 of the 14th Amendment?
Can I just say, Renegade Nerd, you know, that picture captures it all there.
Dexter's got his hand over there.
He's looking kind of confused.
Let me...
As quickly as I can, describe what's at stake with respect to the debt ceiling.
Historically, the United States, whenever it has a deficit, it finances that deficit through the sale of treasuries.
And this is a very common practice over our lifetimes.
Typically, the government's always running a modest deficit.
And Congress is supposed to...
Yeah, listen to this.
...vote on the amount of debt that...
You want to stop at the modest, or what do you want to do?
I'm just saying, my God, what, is he kidding?
This is modest.
What's $14 trillion amongst friends?
But it gets better.
...of debt that Treasury can essentially issue.
It's a pretty esoteric piece of business.
No, it's esoteric.
You don't need to understand it, slave.
Everybody gets it.
Don't worry about it.
It's esoteric.
Typically has not been something that created a lot of controversy.
What's happening now is that Congress is suggesting we may not vote to raise the debt ceiling.
If we do not, then the Treasury will run out of money.
It will not be able to pay the bills that are owing, and potentially the entire world's capital markets could decide, you know what, the full faith and credit of the United States doesn't mean anything.
And so our credit could be downgraded, interest rates could go drastically up, and it could cause a whole new spiral into a second recession or worse.
So this is something that we shouldn't be toying with.
What Dexter's question referred to was there are some people who say that under the Constitution, It's unconstitutional for Congress not to allow Treasury to pay its bills and are suggesting that this should be challenged under the Constitution.
I don't think we should even get to the Constitutional issue.
Congress has a responsibility to make sure we pay our bills.
We've always paid them in the past.
The notion that the U.S. is going to default on its debt is just irresponsible.
And my expectation is that over the next week to two weeks, that Congress, working with the White House, comes up with a deal that solves our deficit, solves our debt problems, and makes sure that our full faith and credit is protected.
So he says he doesn't even need to go there.
A constitutional law professor who just says, no, we don't need to go there.
And I understand.
He does not, at any point, does he want to have to deal with the Constitution at all.
Otherwise, he'd have to deal with the Constitution on Libya and many other issues.
So I think it's part of a very large scheme, and everything points to it.
No, I'm in total agreement there's a scheme afoot to get rid of the Constitution.
You want to have a laugh?
You want to have some laughs for this tweeter thing?
There were so many funny things in it.
I wish I was, you know, unfortunately I was doing the X3. People can go check it out, x3show.mebio.com.
So I didn't get to record anything, so I was hoping you'd get a few clips.
I knew there was going to be some...
But, you know, it was, again, when I watched it, I watched the beginning, it's, you know, a question comes in, they didn't play any of the no agenda questions.
I wonder why!
This is so incredibly surprising!
And this guy with the stick out of his butt would ask the lamest, just standard stock questions that you see all the time, and then Obama would go off on a 10-minute blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
He never stops talking.
He's really good at stalling time.
There were yes and no questions he'd start yakking away on.
So I recorded some of the funny bits.
The opening, I thought, was fantastic.
And by the way, in the show notes at 319er.nashownotes.com, every single person who tweeted a question, I immediately went to their Twitter page and I looked at who they were.
A lot of these were created on the same day.
There was one person who was actually sitting in the audience there whose question was answered.
I'd say about 55% of the tweeter questions that were posed We're from journalists, and there's a couple of different organizations.
The opening setup is kind of what got me suspicious right from the start, as if we didn't know this was a Ministry of Truth operation.
Good afternoon, and welcome.
This is the guy with the stick up his butt.
To the White House.
I am Jack Dorsey from Twitter.
Through more than 200 million tweets per day, people around the world use Twitter to instantly connect to what's most meaningful to them.
In every country, Egypt and Japan, the UK and the United States, much of this conversation is made up of everyday people engaging in spirited debate.
What is this, an advertisement?
Oh, it gets better.
Listen to what he's advertising.
Sure.
Of their countries.
Our partners at Salesforce Radiant 6.
Salesforce Radiant 6.
Any idea what that is?
No.
No.
Salesforce Radiant 6, a very, very cool outfit.
They analyze the tweeters.
And, of course, I immediately was like, oh, wow, let me go check out this company.
Salesforce Radiant 6 has a special feature called Listening Integration.
With features developed on their platform API and social metrics framework for integrating third-party data, Radiant 6 provides a next-generation listening platform that includes the integration of social media monitoring and analysis.
This is the CIA, is what this is.
So the CIA... How come we're not running this company?
I know, because we're stupid.
We're watching C-SPAN....studied more than a million tweets discussing our nation's politics over the recent weeks.
And they found that America's financial security to be one of the most actively talked about topics on Twitter.
They further found that President Obama's name comes up in more than half of these conversations.
And so today, this vibrant discussion comes here to the...
By the way, he didn't get a teleprompter.
He had to read it off of notes written on a small piece of paper on his palm, which is like, you know, no teleprompter for you.
...White House.
And you get to ask the questions.
To participate, just open your web browser and go to askobama.twitter.com.
Neither does the president or I know the questions that will be asked today.
Now, that's what's interesting.
Because during these questions, he continuously would say this.
So 10% of our questions now are about education.
And this one was surfaced from our curator in California.
Curator.
They had these curators.
Yeah, they were pre-clued into what questions they should be accepting.
Exactly.
And they feed them in, so the whole concept of, oh, it's just a big mischief, John.
No idea!
With the headphones on, with loud rock music.
I have no idea.
I don't know what's coming next.
Yeah, curators.
And you see these curators that are like from the Truman organization.
It was the Truman...
What is it called?
The...
It's the Truman something or other.
I don't know.
The Truman Project, which is an intelligence recruitment organization.
The Truman Project.
The questions from a guy from the Truman Project got answered.
Like, okay.
That decision is driven entirely by the Twitter users.
So not by curators, but entirely by the Twitter users.
Lie, Dorsey.
And so, let's get the conversation started.
And why was there no agenda question, if that's true?
Because it's a lie.
Now, listen to the President.
He comes out.
I've been practicing this.
Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States.
Hello, everybody!
Hello, hello!
How are you?
He's programmed.
How are you?
Nice to see you.
How are you?
Nice to see you.
Hi, how are you?
Nice to see you.
Very good to see you.
How are you?
Nice to see you.
Good to see you.
Hey, good to see you.
Hello, everybody.
Hello, everybody.
Now, listen to Dorsey.
Dorsey does a classic.
First of all, everybody can sit down.
Hey, how are you?
Nice to see you.
It's much easier to tweet from a seated position.
And I understand you want to start the conversation off with a tweeter yourself.
A tweeter!
He said it!
Did he say tweeter?
He said tweeter!
I fell off my chair.
Off with a tweeter yourself.
He messes it up.
He said tweeter?
The co-founder.
He runs the place and he knows it's tweet.
And you can always follow me on tweeter.
Off with a tweeter yourself.
I gotta hear it again.
Off with a tweeter yourself.
He says tweeter!
I'm like, really?
Tweeter?
But then Obama, our president, of course, not to be upstaged, came out with this gem.
We do have to make sure that there are computers in a computer age inside classrooms and that they work and that there's internets.
Internets?
George, what is this code?
What are we missing here?
Internets?
He said internets.
He said internets.
He didn't say internets.
He said internets.
So what happens is he catches himself.
I think someone is in his earpiece.
It's not internets.
And he corrects himself, but he kind of like...
I know, I can see, I can almost see his brain going, oh crap, Curry and Dvorak are going to play that one over and over again.
He's thinking he's now sounding like George Bush.
George Bush is saying internet.
Computers, in a computer age, inside classrooms, and that they work, and that there's internets that are actually, there are internet connections that actually...
We need some internets, everybody.
We need some internets.
Oh, my goodness.
And just a couple of crazy, funny ones.
I've got two more.
So, of course, we've got to reduce spending.
But we can't reduce the military.
You can't do that, according to the president.
But...
Oops.
We have to do all of this in a fairly gradual way.
We can't simply lop off 25% off the defense budget overnight.
We can't do that.
You can't lop off.
Well, he's going to explain.
We have to think about all the obligations we have to our current troops who are in the field and making sure they're properly equipped and safe.
That really bothered me.
It's because of the troops in the field.
It's not because of the hundreds of billions of dollars of government contracts with Raytheon and all these death-making companies and all the spare parts being made for stuff we don't even use anymore.
No, no.
It's for the troops in the field.
We've got to make sure that we are meeting our commitments for those veterans who are coming home.
Oh, yeah.
It's for the people whose limbs got blown off.
That's why we can't just lop it off.
We've got to make sure that, in some cases, we've got outdated equipment that needs to be replaced.
And so I'm committed to reducing the defense budget, but as Commander-in-Chief, one of the things that we have to do is make sure that we do it in a thoughtful way that's guided by our security and our strategic needs.
And I think we can accomplish that.
And the nice thing about the defense budget is it's so big, it's so huge, Again, you see him go, oh, what am I? I shouldn't be saying that.
Oh, I shouldn't be saying so big.
Because it is.
What is defense budget, John?
$800 million a year?
Billion, billion, billion.
I'm sorry, billions.
It's probably a trillion.
And he goes, so big, so huge.
And then someone's in his ear.
He's like, oh, I've got to tone that down.
That, you know, a 1% reduction is the equivalent of the education budget.
I'm exaggerating.
That, I'm like, wow.
1% of the defense budget is the education budget.
Does that tell you?
This is like a huge gaffe.
The last one was $712 billion.
Yeah, that's just what they report.
Yeah, right.
Not including all of the, under the table, weird stuff that goes through all the intelligence agencies, which has got to be monstrous.
No, I'm sorry.
Defense spending is $8.81.
Every time you look, $8.95.
It's more.
It's more.
And here was the big lie.
It was kind of like a lie, but it wasn't a lie.
Technically, it wasn't a lie.
But bothersome.
By the way, people who work in the White House, they've had their pay frozen since I came in, our high-wage folks.
So they haven't had a raise in two and a half years, and that's appropriate because a lot of ordinary folks out there haven't either.
In fact, they've seen their pay cut in some cases.
What do you need a big payday for when, like, your wife has a $1 million budget for personal assistance?
And she has access to the 747.
She flies all over the world.
She's not taking it.
It's not out of pocket.
Well, he's talking about people in the White House.
Yeah, I know.
He's talking about the staff.
But it's not true.
It's not true.
Now, technically, people had a pay freeze.
So what they did is they took people like Matthew Vogel and they gave him a different title.
So he moved from $59,000 in 2010 to $130,000.
And there's a list here, which actually I give Gawker credit for this.
They tracked it all down.
And so no one got a pay raise, but what happened is they got new titles.
Oh, well, you know, it's like making someone a VP. Yeah, they got them all promoted.
Yeah, and so most of these people have between 50% and 70% pay increases.
Michael Gottlieb quit his post of special assistant and associate counsel and then took the job again and came back in and got a 20% increase.
It went from $114,000 to $130,000!
My God!
So this is basically the President just lying.
Well, technically he's not because no one got an increase, but they say, well, why don't you just quit and then come back in a month and then we'll hire you back.
21 of Obama's staff are making a minimum of $172,000 per year.
That's a lot of money for civil servants.
Yeah, well, you ought to see the...
I've got a breakdown of some stuff.
It's like so ridiculous to get such a rabbit hole of information I haven't brought on to the show yet, which is just mind-boggling, wastes of money.
In Washington, I mean, it's like you want to cut the budget, just fire all these bureaucrats that don't really do anything.
Because you can't lop off the defense budget, you know, because it's so huge, it's so big, it's so massive.
Apparently the economy has to completely tank and we have to go into an out-and-out depression before we get rid of these essentially people that don't do anything and they get paid a lot of money for not doing anything.
That's exactly right.
So anyway.
So it's all good.
Let's get some executive producers out of the way while we're...
Well, let's not just get them out of the way.
Let's thank them profusely for their...
Well, let's thank some profusely.
Let's thank someone anonymously right off the bat.
Yeah, we got an anonymous...
Donor out of Mill Valley just doesn't want to be mentioned.
He's 33333.
I'm going to have to mention him anyway.
It's Steven Spielberg, as a matter of fact, who has...
Right.
Actually, Spielberg doesn't live in Mill Valley.
And that's Mr.
Anonymous.
Ian Larson, Auckland, New Zealand, writes in after a $333.33 donation in the morning, John and Adam and all the other slaves listening, I hope you find my donation somehow got to you from the evil elites at PayPal.
Can you make it a credit for the show on July 14th?
Is this what we're on today?
No, this is a week early.
Good work.
We'll move it up.
We will not credit you as an executive producer on today's show.
We'll do it on the 14th.
His magic number is my magic number 111 birthday.
I will be 47 years young.
Oh, that's right, because he did the calculation on Bastille Day and show 321.
I want to make this donation as a first step toward a posthumous knighthood for my son Michael and make a karma request for all the producers, listeners out there that have lost friends, family to suicide.
Oh, my goodness.
So we'll do this again next week.
Yeah, we'll do it.
We'll move it forward.
The special goodness in Canyon Lake, California, 33333.
Darren Phillips in Flagstaff Hills, South Australia.
319.
In the morning, John and Adam just started listening to your show a couple weeks ago and love it as you espouse value for value.
Please accept this donation of $319.
Not sure if this gets me into the 319 club.
If it doesn't, I'll rectify it next time I donate.
Probably show 321.
A lot of people are in on 321.
Can you please de-douche me and hit us up with some karma?
Give them a double.
All right.
I'm happy to do that.
You've been de-douched.
You've got karma.
Justin Seitz in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, 319, had to donate since you finally got my name right last time you donated.
Glad to hear that you're ditching California.
He's talking to you, Adam.
Yeah.
An avid listener to the Adam Carolla podcast.
All his rants about the LAPD screwing the citizens makes me never want to visit.
And you shouldn't.
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania is where Justin's located.
By the way, San Francisco is just as bad.
Don't go there either.
On Monday, we're doing a day trip to Vegas.
You're looking at some real estate.
Oh.
I.e.
rental homes.
There should be a lot of deals there.
John, it's unbelievable.
It's really unbelievable what, for the same amount we're paying here, you know, we can have like an extra, we have two bedrooms.
We can have like a third bedroom and a studio for, you know, now I'm in a pool.
Yeah, and right now I'm in a corner, you know, of a little room in the back.
Well, it sounds great though, Adam, the way you've set it up.
What do you mean?
No, I'm just kidding.
I don't understand.
Jeffrey Stark, Alexandria, Virginia.
In the morning, John Adam.
July 7th is not only a No Agenda show day, but my 25th birthday.
Please make a note.
I don't see him on the list.
No.
As such, I've decided to donate $10 for every year I've been alive.
All right.
Hmm.
That's not a bad idea.
Could you please give me a birthday shout-out and a shout-out karma?
I'm headed up the Martins of Pennsylvania for a birthday weekend with my friends who will undoubtedly get drunk and start hitting them in the mouth with some truths.
Yay.
He needs a karma shot.
Yeah.
We'll handle that one.
You've got karma.
while.
Yay.
I would like to donate $200 to the Lindsay Lohan Tweeter Promotion Fund.
$33.33 for a podcast license.
Wouldn't want to be breaking the law by listening to you guys.
Could you please pass some karma to my good friend Shane Pascoe, who is struggling at the moment with a number of douchebags he's having to deal with at work.
Yeah.
Oh, that sucks.
Karma, baby!
You've got karma.
Matthias Andersen's in, I got a bunch of symbols on here from Copenhagen, Denmark is what I believe it is.
222.
222.
That would be Matthias.
Matthias.
Matthias Andersen.
Andersen.
Copenhagen.
Copenhagen.
Copenhagen, where they now have borders again.
Yeah, it's about time.
Felix Schudel, $201.50.
He wants a little plug for areweinbusiness.com.
Don O'War, Columbus, Ohio.
Don O'War.
I go by Don O'War, that's what I got.
Don O'War, more formally the legendary almighty Don O'War, born to live forevermore.
Don O'War, born to live forevermore.
I'm sorry, I'm not that much of a poet.
Please make the podcast license out to Don O'War, O-W-A-R. I've been listening to the show for years.
I wasn't really...
Ready to donate till John started talking about going to see Blue Cheer back in the day.
Ain't no pure for the summertime blues.
So here's my money for rock and roll.
Thanks for entertaining me at work while I sit.
Blue Cheer, by the way, was one of the first power bands, power trios that I ever saw.
They predated Cream.
Oh, yeah.
And they would blow you back a couple feet when they turned on their amps.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Everybody out there listening to this show is under the age of 30.
Wear ear protection.
Anyway, she says, thanks for entertaining me at work.
She listens to the show while she's at work in the cubicle as a wage slave.
She canceled her cable and now no agenda is the primary news source.
Thanks for keeping me so well informed.
I enjoy the crack pottery as entertainment.
Whether I disagree with you sometimes is not or not relevant.
Hey, John, how's the meds doing, man?
Your reading is like...
I don't need any real news political party or cause supporting group to tell me what I think.
Anyway, thank you.
That's $200 from Donna War.
Wow.
Well, thank you all so much for supporting the program.
As you know, we do not...
Oh, man, I was in the car the other day, yesterday, actually, and I have to skip around, and I heard...
I had no way to record it.
NPR literally said, and this is KPCC in Los Angeles...
Please keep the donations coming because the majority of what keeps us on the air are your foundations.
We don't play sponsors' messages from commercial advertisers.
And meanwhile...
Completely.
And I was like, oh, I wish I could have clipped that.
I went to their site and everything.
Because it's a drop, right?
So they don't have that available on the site.
I was just blown away by that.
You do nothing but play commercial messages from underwriters.
Yeah, and they're also now talking about interrupting shows.
They always play them at the beginning and the end.
And now they're thinking, well, you know, why don't we play them in the middle too?
Yeah, because, you know, it's underwriting.
It's not advertising.
Actually, it's probably not the wrong time to bring it up, but...
Wow, I can't believe I thought I saved that.
There was an ad for a salesperson.
A salesperson...
I can probably find it.
For a national public media...
And it literally said in the job offer, there is no real difference between being a salesperson for commercial media or for public media.
Like, there's no difference.
It's exciting, you're out for the kill, and you're still going out for the same dollars.
It's like literally right there in the ad.
I'll find it for the donation segment.
It's like, wow.
So, yeah.
It's a fact.
I mean, we know this.
The fact that they keep telling the public that it's not what it is is ridiculous to me.
Why don't they just admit it or give up?
Why don't they say, look, we take all the money we can from any source we can get it from.
We get it from advertisers.
We get it from underwriters.
We get it from you.
Send us more money.
We get more money than anybody does.
Let's send more.
We don't do that.
We don't have any advertisers on this show ever.
We never will.
We're going to stop doing the show if we have to do that.
It wouldn't work.
It wouldn't work.
We'd be pulled off the air.
Our advertisers would get attacked.
It would be all over.
It would never work.
We wouldn't be able to speak our minds freely.
And of course that's going to end anyway eventually when the licensing comes into play.
Yeah, well that's true.
I'm predicting that.
So, we do appreciate you funding this program and making it possible for us to watch hours of boring C-SPAN and, you know, watching hours of guys with stick up their butts asking shill questions.
And the place to go do that is...
There are just a few PR announcements I'd like to make.
A couple of domain names.
We are now probably up to about 500 independently registered domain names, all pointing to NoAgendaShow.com.
GreenGovernment.org, which I think is a good one, is now pointing to NoAgendaShow.com.
We have WeDon'tCareAboutCustomers.com and MonkeysThrowPoopAtMe.com.
Very good.
Thank you.
BogusNews.tv, which is a throwback to the previous episode, like that.
I can't believe the following one was available.
DrPooper.com, now pointing to NoAgendaShow.com.
Dr.
Pooper?
Dr.
Pooper.
You got Dr.
Pepper, Dr.
Pooper.
I've Been Doing That.com.
Another nice one.
TheMediaIsOwned.com.
This is good.
Some good stuff here.
And this one, I'm flabbergasted that no one had registered this.
We have NoAgendaNighthood.com.
No.
And PhillyCrispyCreme.com.
Yeah.
We're not going to get sued.
No.
And then we have NoAgendaUniversity.com, NoAgendaInstitute.com, and then the blow-away of the week, AskObama.org, now pointing to NoAgendaShow.com.
Fantastic.
Good job on that one.
And a quick mention of the No Agenda mobile app for Android.
There'll be a link at the top in the show notes under the PR segment at 319.nashownotes.com.
I think actually in the donation we got our cut from sales of the No Agenda mobile.
I don't think it actually amounted to up to $50.
So we'll have to pull that forward, but we do appreciate that.
It has a couple of new features.
Listen to the live stream.
Stream the last ten episodes.
Skip to any point in an episode by tapping a location on the timeline, which is cool.
And a glossary section to learn the history and meanings of recurring themes and catchphrases.
I can't see why anyone would need that.
And then one last reminder that in one week and one day, Ms.
Mickey and I will depart on the No Agenda Hot Pockets 2008 tour, which of course is being held conveniently in 2011.
We fly to Virginia.
We were picked up by some guy from the Pentagon.
Who will then drive us to...
Where you'll never be seen again.
He's a listener.
Remember that guy we talked about a couple of years ago?
This guy who decides he has to go to the Pentagon to tell somebody something.
All right, and he got shot.
Some horrible story about some corruption in the government.
And they killed him.
And he's knocking on the door and they shoot him.
It's like, we don't need to know.
I think somebody invited him.
Yeah, come on over to the Pentagon.
Hey, hey, shoot him.
No, he's a listener, a producer of the show, and he's driving us to Baroness Maggie Vincent of Virginia's home, where we are going to stay overnight.
We're going to do the show...
She's in Langley?
No, she...
No.
Fredericksburg.
That's a nice...
I've been to that.
That's a beautiful little town.
That's beautiful.
And so that's where the Hot Pockets No Agenda Gitmo Nation Tour RV is all geared up and ready to go.
And we're very excited about that.
You know, Virginia, especially some parts of Virginia, if you go toward the southern part of Virginia, it's probably the last bastion of a quality pulled pork.
I shall make sure that we have some.
Definitely.
I can just see Miss Mickey's face.
Pulled what?
You know what?
She's going to fall in love with pulled pork.
You're going to make me eat what?
Seriously.
Yeah, okay.
Alright.
Okay, I'm writing it down in the book.
Yeah, alright.
Write that down.
Mickey will love pulled pork.
Oh, this just came in.
News of the world shutting down amid phone hacking scandal.
This is very interesting.
We can actually talk about that.
So anyway, we thank you all so incredibly much for supporting the program and very excited about the tour.
We're looking forward to meeting so many of you out on the road.
And we will, of course, be doing the program live.
No interruption, at least if it's up to us.
We'll be trying to acquire proper Wi-Fi for each individual show day.
That will determine the most of how we take the trip.
But if you have any suggestions, and I think we're going to get a lot more invitations and suggestions coming in in this last week, please send it to mickeyatcurry.com.
That's different from mickeycurry.com, which I don't think is active right now.
Anyway, there is one thing you can do, as always, propagate the formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
New.
World.
Order.
Taylor, I'm proud, everybody.
Shut up, slaves.
So I've got the story of the year.
Hey!
What I actually predict will be the...
This is going to be my prediction for the day.
Okay.
This is going to develop.
Unless it's suppressed, they're going to try to do everything they can to suppress this information.
It's already started, by the way, with the New York Times article on the topic.
They're going to try to suppress this, but I think it can catch on.
They found a link.
Researchers found a link.
Between autism and Prozac.
Oh, really?
There's an article which I'll send you, and you'll put in the show notes, which in the medical news today starts off, the article starts off, new research this week points to a link between the use of selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, SSRIs, a type of antidepressant, which by the way is sold as more than Prozac, it's also sold as like a Valium substitute, and there's a lot of other brand names for it, and that's gotten into the...
It is the most popular drug in the country, and it's gotten into the...
A lot of women who have problems with pregnancy and everything, or they don't know they're pregnant, they get depressed, or they have hormonal problems, they get assigned this drug under one name or another.
And now they're starting to see there's just enough...
Documented evidence that autism spectrum disorders, as they call them, seems to have some connection to this.
Then they also did in the same, apparently in a similar study, there was a thing done, which is also mentioned in this article, which we'll link to in the show notes.
They did some study on twins.
The New York Times runs the exact same information.
They bury the Prozac part of the story and they start off with the twins.
The lesser interesting part of the story, which is a New York Times article I'm reading from.
New study implicates environmental factors in autism.
Never mentions in the headline Prozac.
I mean, what drug company makes Prozac?
This company spends a lot of money on advertising.
This is another reason why we need donations to this show so we can talk about stories like this.
Wait a minute, wait a minute.
So you're telling me...
That Prozac, a drug which makes you docile and quiet, is linked to a disease that basically is when you're docile and quiet?
This is a big revelation?
Yeah, isn't that something?
What a coincidence.
Gee!
Something that affects your brain at first.
I think not!
So the New York Times goes on a new study of twins suggested that environmental factors including conditions in the womb may be at least as important as genes in causing autism.
Okay, well at least that's a start.
Then they bury the little thing about Prozac at the end of the article.
And as a New York Times reader now, I can assure you, since I get the paper every day for almost a month now, I got piles of papers, which I got to throw out.
I can assure you that no one will read that part of the story.
Well, of course not.
But it's Pfizer, I think, that makes Prozac.
They're one of the largest advertisers in all media.
They're not going to go and slam.
They're going to put the facts in.
They're going to bury it.
But they're not going to put it on top like the top news.
Right.
That would be wrong.
I wouldn't either if I was on the payroll.
Wow.
My prediction is these moms who have autistic children are not slouches for being activists.
Many of them are irked by it.
Yeah, yeah.
This little piece of information is out there now.
Now that you say that, I do recall hearing somewhere, maybe it was on the TV in the background, someone talking about, you know, if you're on antidepressants while you're pregnant, and that's when my head kind of whipped around, like, what?
What crazy mother is going to take antidepressants while you're pregnant?
Why are you depressed?
It should be the most beautiful moment of your life.
And are you crazy?
I mean, we used to speculate whether one glass of wine was good or not while you were pregnant.
Now it's like, well, you know, if you're on antidepressants while you're pregnant, you know, you should probably, like, what?
That's nuts!
And a lot of these antidepressants now are repackaged, they're repackaged Prozac.
I don't have all the brand names in front of me, but there's repackaged Prozac that people were taking during their early, and a lot of women will have a depression when they're in their first trimester and they don't even know they're pregnant.
And they'll be popping these pills.
I'm telling you, this is going to develop into the biggest story.
And here's a little tip for you investors out there.
The potential, in my opinion, for this to turn into a Johns Mansville disaster.
What is a Johns Mansville disaster?
Johns Mansville is a huge construction materials company.
That went completely bankrupt over asbestos lawsuits.
They were driven into the ground by these suits.
This situation is just as bad insofar as Pfizer is concerned.
You watch weird stuff start to happen, so Pfizer gets themselves distanced.
You think that the mainstream media will actually allow that to happen?
No.
Once the moms get going, it's over.
They cannot put this off.
J.C., Buzzkill Jr.
just sent me a list of the names of Prozac clones.
It just goes on and on.
Cytox, Cytox, Fluox, Depress, Lovan.
Zoloft.
Zoloft is similar.
I know Zoloft is actually seritalin.
Anyway, the fact of the matter is, this, believe me, if you've got people out there that are on this autism thing, the vaccine thing, they are going to shift gears, move their sights over.
And this is big.
This is huge.
And, of course, it's buried in the New York Times deep in the paper.
But I'm telling you right now, this is huge.
Even if they can find some way to debunk this study, which I don't know if they will, it's too late.
This is going to be big.
All right.
We'll stay all over that.
Something that goes along with it, in a way.
You know, NASA's been launching Minuteman missiles.
Did you know that?
They've been launching them from Vandenberg Air Base.
Sorry, not NASA. Maybe it is NASA. Anyway, so there's now a second Minuteman 3 ICBM intercontinental ballistic missile is about to be launched.
And I don't understand why we're launching ballistic missiles.
It's just a test.
We'll have to test them.
But NASA, this is what I want to get to, because I'm on all these launch lists, which is kind of cool, and you get all this information.
And this one just caught my eye.
And this is between July 5th and July 23rd, so I don't think it's happened yet.
But based on the approved range schedule, the rocket pairs are set for launch between 9.30 a.m.
and 1 p.m.
Eastern Daylight Time.
The experiments on the Terrier-improved Orion rockets, guess what they're going to do?
They're going to release lithium into the ionosphere.
What?
Yeah.
Why?
I don't know.
But the resulting clouds are not expected to be visible to the naked eye, but will be seen by special cameras on the ground.
And I'm trying to figure out why they're doing this today.
They don't...
No, I have a guess.
Yeah, my guess is to shut us up.
No, your guess is wrong.
Okay, then why do we release lithium into the ionosphere?
Well, if you can see the lithium cloud with that, I think it's because they can put something...
I think they're trying to trace ionospheric...
So they can see what, from point A to point B, if you put something at point A, where does it end up in a year?
And if you can spot it with that, and it doesn't cause any lessening of the sun's penetration of the atmosphere.
It's just kind of neutral, but you can see it with this, the giveaways that they say they can see it with these special instruments.
I think it's just a study.
Okay, and will this, does this stuff just stay in the ionosphere?
Does it come down to Earth?
I don't think it comes down.
I think once something's in the ionosphere, it's up there until...
I don't know what happens to it.
It's a good question.
The best part of waking up is fluoride in my cup.
Nice.
All right.
Well, I don't like it.
Well, of course not.
I don't like it.
If I were you, I wouldn't either.
I'm not liking the lithium in the ionosphere thing.
Like, can't you do that with something else besides lithium?
Prozac, you're going to have to do something with that stuff.
Yeah, so we can see the movement of the ionosphere.
Prozac, yeah, don't worry about it.
It's okay.
It's no problem.
It's all good.
Something big that was propagated by the Ministry of Truth, and I have an AP report, the Associated Press, which of course, when the Associated Press publishes something...
By the way, let's stop.
Buzzkill Jr.
put it just a crazy little note.
You probably didn't get it.
Lithium as a superconductor.
Yeah, for HAARP. Yeah, for HAARP. Well, see, you already shut me down with just like the first thing.
No, I didn't shut you down because I thought you were going to say they sent it up so it could land in the water so we could all be doped up.
Yeah, that was my initial thought, but then I also had...
Yeah, that's why I shut you down.
Not the HAARP thing.
Well, but...
So if they're going to do...
So then we're in for some interesting weather.
Or earthquakes.
I'm predicting interesting weather on the horizon.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, big one.
Let me write that in the red book.
Yeah, well, write this one down, too.
Remember we were talking, I think it was on the last show, we played the douchebag who heads up the securite committee.
Squirrel!
And he was saying, well, you know, we need to evaluate TSA, we need to get more personnel, we need to get more money.
Remember that?
Peter King.
Right, Peter King.
Thank you.
Well, everything's right on plan.
Last week, the Transportation Security Administration sent out a message to domestic and international air carriers and some other officials.
She's a hummer.
Yeah, this woman, she's from AP, and you see her talking like this the whole time, and they cut to B-roll of airplanes landing.
About a fresh interest in a tactic to surgically implant explosives inside a human being.
Oh yeah, geez.
What a crock.
So, um...
You've got to listen to it because it's very interesting.
Associated Press, when they publish something, it goes viral, right?
It's like all these newspapers who don't have staff.
It's not viral, it's syndicated.
Well, that's a version of viral.
Viral is a version of syndicated.
Thank you.
But if they inject it into AP, then it goes everywhere, and of course everyone starts picking it up in different ways.
A fresh interest in a tactic to surgically implant explosives inside a human being.
And this would be to evade the airport security measures.
Can you imagine having this woman at a dinner party?
I think I kicked her out of one of my dinner parties, actually.
...put in place over the past ten years.
They've received some intelligence that terrorists are looking to try to do that.
This is not a new concept.
It's just new intelligence that they're...
Still interested in it, but there's no specific plot.
There's nothing to say that this is happening, they're doing it, it's coming.
It depends where it is and how deep it is in the body.
I mean, there's different theories on that, but for the most part, the technology that's used to screen people in airports is not going to pick up something like that.
So this is perfect.
It's right on schedule.
We need more people to feel you up.
And what amazes me is the lack of follow-up on the story.
I mean, in Los Angeles in particular, we have hundreds of thousands of plastic surgeons.
I'd like to know, if you implant...
Because they're talking about...
A bomb.
A bomb.
So this is the boob bomber, which we talked about, what, two years ago?
We knew that this was coming.
So here it is, the boob bombs.
Long since predicted.
So, you know, it's like, how long does it take to heal?
How do you detect it?
Is it completely undetectable?
Can you just put this dust all over a boob and it's like the form of a boob just makes bigger boobs and they blow up?
Can you put it in your buttocks?
I mean, all of these questions I have.
And what's the name of that stuff that's so explosive?
The Pentex?
What is it?
The explosives.
The guy that the terrorists are now using.
The powder.
Come on.
I don't know.
I forgot.
Some powder.
Gunpowder.
That's right.
Gunpowder.
It's like, all they're doing is just like throwing more fear onto you and please let TSA feel you up.
We know that the scanners don't work, so just feel you up.
The scanners don't work and the feeling won't work if this is done right.
Of course not.
What are they going to do?
They're going to get a lot of people taking that job.
Yeah, we may have to go.
I'll take a job at the TSA, but all you can do is feel boobs.
Meanwhile, the European Union, Starfleet Command, has passed a vote, resolution passed, show of hands on Wednesday.
And here it is.
Body scanners should be allowed at EU airports only if, only if, the health and dignity and privacy of passengers are protected.
Now, that's the headline.
But if you go down a little bit deeper, I've got to find the exact quote.
Semtex.
No, it's not Semtex.
No, no, no.
It's not Semtex.
P-E-T-N. Thank you.
That's what it is.
Semtex.
It's like C4. No, not the stuff you have in the basement, honey.
No, not that.
It's P-E-T-N. It's different.
Ministers of European Parliament accept that body scanners would enhance aviation security, but ask member states to, quote, deploy technology which is the least harmful for human health.
Least harmful.
So not like not harmful, but the least harmful.
Hey, United States of Europe, they're going to radiate you.
It's crazy, isn't it?
They're going to give people an x-ray?
Whatever they're going to do, it's the least harmful.
Whatever is the least harmful.
The least harmful is just to leave people alone.
Yeah, but they're not going to do that.
They're going to...
I still think the idea of getting a job at the TSA, all you get to do is feel boobs.
Yeah, but you've got to feel good boobs and bad boobs.
Guys will be lined up.
Maybe it's...
There must be a hierarchy.
It's like, oh, here's some boobs.
These are for you, dude.
Hey, new guy.
New guy.
These boobs are for you.
Ha, ha, ha.
Ha, ha.
I'll take this.
That'd be a seniority thing.
I think the high-seniority guys would get the moves.
Exactly.
So Lucifer Clinton, out there in the news, and of course we've been tracking her techno-experts, and she started something called Tech Women.
Have you ever heard of this organization TechWomen.org?
No.
TechWomen.org is funded by the U.S. Department of State's Bureau of Educational and Cultural Affairs, managed by the Institute of International Education.
These are all the companies that educate the so-called tweeter revolutionists.
And is implemented in partnership with the Anita Borg Institute for Women and Technology.
Now, some of the partners in this program are Adobe, AT&T, Cisco, Edelman PR, Ericsson, Facebook, Google, YouTube, NetApp, HP, Stanford University, Twitter.
Now, all of these great companies that help revolutionize everything.
And Lucifer is back in town, and she just can't help herself.
She just can't help herself because she's boasting about this.
She's just boasting about it.
And in the meantime, she's totally playing her hand and explaining her tech camps where they are training people to be shills on Twitter and Facebook.
It's unbelievable.
By the way, now that she's back in town after her trip to Belarus or Lithuania, her hair is looking great.
She had Pierre come in and her hair is just awesome.
So we're excited about the role of technology, and we want to help facilitate your use of it.
Here in the State Department, we do what we call 21st century statecraft.
It's statecraft.
It's kind of like witchcraft, only different.
That's just a fancy way of saying that we are trying to use technology to open up doors that are otherwise closed.
And so, for example, last week in Lithuania, Alec Ross, who was here and heading up a lot of our efforts...
Remember that guy?
Remember Alec Ross?
No.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We pegged this guy early on.
He is the Secretary Clinton's tech guru, according to the Book of Knowledge.
This is the guy who set up that foundation that we pegged like two years ago called One Economy.
Remember that?
I'm not getting it.
Yeah, he's an expert.
His dad, by the way, was some kind of shill.
I can't remember.
Anyway, this is the guy who's running all of these groups, and he's the expert.
21st Century Statecraft Initiative.
Yeah, well, keep listening.
Along with his great team, convened what we call a tech camp.
Now, a tech camp is an opportunity to bring together dozens of civil society activists, human rights defenders, NGO leaders from many different societies.
These particularly were from former Soviet states like Belarus, Ukraine.
Hackers!
You've got hackers.
Moldova and others.
Because they're interested in using the internet and connection technologies to forge political change and to give people a voice who might otherwise not have one.
And what we believe is that technology can be a great facilitator.
It can also be used by governments and others to prevent people from being able to communicate.
So we have to stay a step ahead so that people are never deprived of their opportunity as we saw how important that was in both Tunisia and Egypt.
I mean, she's literally spelling it out.
We are supporting these people and these non-governmental organizations to start revolutions which are bogus.
We're training them.
Over the last months, we're seeing it in many other settings as well.
And we want to help you really fulfill your own God-given potential, however you define that, by using technology as one of the many tools for enhancing relationships, building businesses, creating greater...
opportunities.
I also think it's important that these conversations that you have begun this past month continue and we hope that you will reach out to women and girls back home who can benefit from what you have experienced because the world needs your contributions and I know that each of you has such great potential.
So our work is just beginning together, and we want to hear from you.
I welcome you to stay in touch with us and to offer your suggestions, your recommendations, your constructive criticism, because we're trying...
Hey, can I ask you a question?
Yeah.
What the hell has this got to do with the State Department?
Well, the State Department is responsible for things.
It used to be Voice of America, which was the propaganda machine, and now they're just turning to predominantly Muslim women to start these revolutions through the tweeters.
In fact, I went back to 2010 when Lucifer announced this initiative, and it's literally to train Muslim women.
Here's a 30-second clip from 2010.
Thank you.
So, here's what we want to do that we hope will be good.
First, through a program called Tech Women, we will enhance the technological capacity of women in seven Muslim-majority countries.
I wonder what seven they are.
What do you think?
Could it be Egypt?
Could it be Libya?
Could it be Lebanon?
Could it be Syria?
You betcha!
Promising entrepreneurs in the tech field will be paired with American mentors and given four to six weeks of training in American tech centers such as Silicon Valley.
Wow.
And then there's a new word which maybe, I mean I looked it up and maybe my dictionary is just dumb, but I had never heard this word before.
And finally, though, and most importantly, let me thank all of the women of TechWomen.
The mentors and the mentees who have spent the...
Mentees?
Mentees?
What's a mentee?
No, I looked in the dictionary.
Yeah, I looked in the Oxford English Dictionary.
Maybe it's in there.
Do you mean manatee?
No.
Yeah, it's right in there.
It's on the web...
Here, hold on a second.
What's a mentee?
On the webpage womenetics...
Womenetics?
Oh, it's a non-existent word?
No, on the webpage womenetics...
It's used.
I'm just looking at something.
Just by coincidence, I'm reading this sentence.
It says, according to stock, the mentees are not the only ones who will gain something from the tech women program.
The mentors also benefit from the experience.
How about the mentors?
So I guess a mentee is a woman who was mentored?
Is that now the translation?
I couldn't find this in the dictionary.
Well, that's what they're using.
They're using it commonly.
Mentees.
I was like, wow.
Okay, new word.
I'll take it.
So here's the...
The women traveling from abroad for tech women come from the Muslim countries of Algeria.
We left that one out.
Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Morocco, and Palestine.
Hmm.
Put them all on the list, I guess.
So this is the program.
And it's been going on for a while, and we completely missed this techwomen.org.
And now they've also announced techgirls.org.
She's going all out.
It's like, get them young.
There's this whole thing about...
Actually, I felt a little...
I don't know.
I didn't feel good when she started saying that women get no breaks.
It sucks for women.
It's horrible for women.
I'm like, didn't we do that in the 60s?
Didn't we break through all of that?
She's preoccupied.
You've got to put on the show notes this Wominetics site.
It's quite interesting.
Now, being a woman in the field of technology is not always easy.
Are you kidding me?
Do you know how many great women there are in technology?
I think I've hired more female tech experts than male.
I don't know, that's kind of weird.
Being a woman in any field is not always easy, but there are so many opportunities in technology that we just have to forge ahead.
And we're doing so around the world because we want to make sure that all the tools that technology has made available are just as open to women as they are to men.
And I also believe that innovation thrives on good ideas.
And women have a lot of good ideas.
And we don't want those ideas to just die.
We want them to be shared and to help others and to create businesses and jobs and improve lives.
It has a greater impact when technology has access for everyone.
Which is weird.
I've got your mentee thing here, right?
Oh, yeah.
Buzzkill Jr.
came up with this and he's like a...
Yeah, he's a genius.
He says that normally you'd use the word protege.
You have a mentor and a protege, right?
Right, that's what I always thought.
He says the problem is that protege is a male.
Protege normally is male and protege with two E's is female.
And they can't have anything that would be like showing a difference in the sexes.
So they dreamed up this new word mentee which is asexual.
Does it have an accent on the first E? Protégé does.
Mentees.
Mentees got no, it doesn't.
It sounds like icky.
It sounds like an animal that's a mammal that lives in the sea.
Yeah, like a manatee.
Yeah.
A mentee.
Hey, I think we shouldn't have interns anymore.
It should be mentees.
So apparently they've created this ambassador at large of global women's issues at the State Department.
Lorraine Harriton.
Do you know her?
Well, I'm looking at last November, Melanie Verveer is the ambassador for women.
Well, I'm sorry.
Lorraine Harriton.
I thought you would know her.
She's like a Silicon Valley success story for the past 25 years.
You don't know her?
No.
I don't know everybody.
You're like a techno expert, aren't you?
I'm a techno expert, but I don't know everybody.
I thought you knew everybody.
She's the Special Representative for Commercial and Business Affairs for the State Department.
She was the CEO of Aptera.
Never heard of it.
CEO of Beatnik.
Beatnik?
Yeah.
These are fronts.
She also spent 15 years at IBM serving in a number of executive capacities.
Oh, yeah, whatever that means.
Yeah.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, but this Alec Ross guy, we've got to keep our eye on him.
And this tech women and mentees and tech teens.
And womenetics.
And it's kind of like anti-man, is what it sounds like.
And this Christine Lagarde, who held her first IMF press conference, she's also like, it's also like, you know, all women, women, women.
It's like, shut up, men.
Yeah, well, I've got a couple Christine Lagarde clips I want to play because after listening to her, I've decided that, well, I haven't decided, but I'm now leaning toward the idea that maybe it was either the World Bank or somebody that wanted, what's his name, out.
Hold on, I'm breaking up.
Sorry.
Because she just, for one thing, the guy that's always sitting by her side is this John Lipsky, who's the American.
Yeah, he's the number two guy.
He's the number two guy, and there was a number of pointed questions.
Why is it always a European and then an American?
Wait a minute, did we both watch C-SPAN and watch the same press conference?
I just want to play the short Lagarde clip.
Which is the one that just says Christine Lagarde, where she slams DSK as if he was a lousy manager, and it makes me think that maybe they wanted to get him out.
This is two, and they're both named differently.
You said it's a short one?
No, no, it's not the short one.
The other one's shorter.
It's the one that just says Christine Lagarde.
Oh, I see.
It says X-Ristine Lagarde.
Slip of the finger there.
How should we expect, how soon should we expect a real change?
Thank you.
Okay, well, I'll be very clear on that.
And it's a two-fold response.
Number one...
Oh, stop.
By the way, this woman is one of those who does it.
And you know one of my pet peeves.
The gratuitous smile in the middle of a sentence.
Yeah, I noticed that.
She starts to say something that she gives a big grin.
What is she saying with this grin?
It's extremely annoying, but anyway, play on.
About management style.
And it's no criticism of my predecessors, but my style is about opening up, reaching out, engaging people and working as a team.
I can't do it alone.
They can't do it alone.
We have to pull the institution together and engage the staff and make sure that people are not only satisfied with the work, but proud with the results.
And happy with their work.
Happy.
So in terms of...
And I'm not suggesting that they were not happy or they were not...
No, they weren't happy.
But my way...
She goes on...
You can stop it.
She goes on and on slamming the guy as not a team player was essentially the message.
And I'm wondering, you know, who's really wanted him out of there.
So now the more interesting question to me was the second clip, which is the guy from the Financial Times basically asked her, what is she even doing there?
Anna Bisi from the Financial Times.
Thank you for the mention earlier.
Let me ask you about a couple of issues I'm sure you had not expected to come up.
As a lawyer, until recently a French finance minister, how will you counter accusations that you are, one, not qualified to take decisions on economics, and two, might have the interests of French banks and French taxpayers at heart in issues like Greece rather than those of the IMF? You always ask such nice questions, Alan.
It's always a pleasure.
You know what?
I'm not going to brag about my qualifications or lack of qualifications.
I think the truth of the pudding is in the eating, as you say.
And we'll see how it goes.
I don't think that's the exact saying, Ms.
Lagarde.
By the way, I like the way she handled that question because if anybody out there has to be confronted with this, it's like, ask me something like, say I'm the CEO of IBM now.
For some reason, I, John DeVore, have become the CEO of IBM. Now, ask me about my qualifications for this.
John, as a wine judge, how can you justify your qualifications with the job you're currently in?
Well, you know, I'm not going to brag about my qualifications or lack of qualifications.
So we'll just see how it turns out.
Thank you.
She says, I'm not going to brag.
I know.
But it was a negative question.
There was nothing to brag about.
It's like, I'm not going to brag that I don't have any qualifications?
Look, she's been...
She's beautiful.
She's been a lawyer all her career.
She ran Baker McKenzie, the headquarters in Chicago.
She's part of the Chicago Cabal.
She has no qualifications, other than she's an elite, and she's right up there, and that's perfect.
There's something else, I think, because I have different clips that I, it's interesting that we pull different clips from this.
By the way, I want to remind everybody.
It's what we do, so you don't have to.
We watch hours of this stuff to bring you this entertainment.
I think it was a big mess inside the IMF and the guy from Fox Business News Well, so she says something in her statement and he asks a question about it.
Here's what she said about...
This is the guy they tried to...
Yeah, I got that too.
First, let's hear what she has to say about the environment she's going to change inside the IMF where the eating is in the pudding.
...to sit at the board.
Not to say that we must not...
Quite to the contrary.
We must complete the reform that was approved in 2010.
And I will see to that.
And before I left France, I made sure that our quota increase was actually duly wrapped up in the parliamentary process and approved by my parliament.
So we must complete the 2010 reform.
And governance and quotas must be adjusted to reflect The new architecture of the world.
By the way, the new architecture of the world, hello new world order, hello.
It could also reflect in our employment policies, in our training policies, in the way in which we build teams, in the way in which we organize recruitment so that people are not clones of each other.
Okay, so people should not be clones of each other.
And I thought the Fox Business guy came up with a great question.
Secondly, briefly, I can't resist.
Do you think that the staff here are all clones of each other?
Okay, well, dealing with you...
Second question.
Of course not.
I attended the town hall meeting yesterday.
Of course not.
Of course not.
It's Peter Barnes, by the way.
Of course not.
We are not clones.
Well, he actually identifies himself with his final question where they absolutely tried to shut him up.
And I'm sure I'll come back to you.
Yes.
I wanted to follow up.
Thank you.
No, I'm sorry.
Over here.
I wanted to follow up on the Dominique Strauss-Kahn case.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
The person to your left was the person...
Will there be any reforms in the human resources policies here?
Do you plan any changes in them in light of the controversy over Mr.
Strauss-Kahn?
And will it make a difference that you're a woman?
And finally, is there too much testosterone in the building?
Before Madame Lagarde answers that, could you just describe, give your name and...
Peter Barnes with Fox Business.
It's like amazing.
And the other journalists are like...
Wow.
Oh, no, he didn't.
He asked the question.
Well, I'm not going to say anything.
I want to hear the answer.
Yeah, I know.
Nobody jumped in.
Because the other journalists, mostly from European operations, are not going to say anything.
No, of course not.
They're taught not to be interruptive.
I found the blog post from, remember on the last show we played that clip from Miliband, and the journalist is asking different questions, and Miliband keeps giving the same answer over and over again like a robot?
So I found a blog post because, of course, he says, I'm actually really happy that this video found its way onto YouTube.
It was pool video.
That's why multiple outlets had it.
And so the way it works is, for those of you who don't...
And this is our media deconstruction.
So one journalist is chosen.
He goes and he sits down.
He asks a whole bunch of questions.
Everybody gets the same video, and then they pull a quote from it.
And, of course, you know, the guy answered four different questions with the exact same answer, with the exact same talking points every single time.
And so the raw video, and this is what's great about what's happening with the Internet.
The raw video found its way out on YouTube.
And everyone's like, wow, the guy is like, what a robot.
He just he has no interest in answering the questions.
And this journalist said the reason why I didn't say, hey, dude, you're being a douchebag.
You keep answering all these different questions with the same talking points because I didn't want to lose my job at the BBC.
There you have it.
There you have it.
Wow.
Yeah, a blog post linked in the show notes at 319.nashownotes.com.
I guarantee the guy's going to get fired for posting this blog.
I mean, I think that's stupid.
And of course, immediately, people are now finding video all over the place.
Have you seen the George Osborne video?
No.
No!
It's the exact same thing.
This is from 2010, and it's another pool video with a woman this time, and she asked multiple questions, and how does he answer?
This is very important for the human resources in Gitmo Nation East, the United Kingdom, because, wow, your media, I thought we were bad here in the West.
Your media is really out of control.
You've never seen this before.
Well, I think we've got a double dose of good news today for Britain.
We've got strong growth figures, actually the strongest growth in this part of the year for a decade.
And at the same time, we've just heard that the country's credit rating has been secured.
And I think this underpins confidence in the economy.
I think it is a vote of confidence in the government's economic policies.
And I think it gives us the confidence now to look to the future with some optimism.
So we've heard confidence, confidence, double jeopardy, whatever, right?
We hear all that.
Let's ask a question.
But even with these growth figures, you have to admit that your cuts program hasn't come in yet.
VAT will rise next year.
Job losses haven't happened yet.
Things could get worse.
Well, I think what you see today is a double dose of good news for the British economy.
First of all, strong growth figures, actually the strongest growth for this part of the year that we've seen in a decade.
And also, we've just heard that the country's credit rating, which had been put at risk by the previous government, has been secured.
Now, both those things will underpin confidence in the recovery, and I think they are also a vote of confidence in the new government's economic policies.
Do you still worry about a double-dip recession?
Well, I think what you see today in an uncertain global economic environment is Britain growing, growing strongly, the strongest growth we've seen in this part of the year for a decade, and also our country's credit rating being secured.
That's a big vote of confidence in the UK and a vote of confidence in the coalition government's economic policies.
One more time.
The experts said that your cuts were unfair and now in the first opinion poll they're showing also people think they're unfair.
Do you have a problem with that?
Look, I think people know that this country had some serious economic problems and that the debt problem had to be dealt with.
They see a new government has come in and dealt decisively with it, and now today we've got this double dose of good news.
First of all, strong growth figures, but also the country's credit rating reaffirmed and secured when it had been put at risk by the previous Labour government.
And I think that will underpin confidence in the recovery going forward.
Isn't that awesome?
Well, you know what's interesting to me is that there's a number of deconstructions that have obviously taken place someplace or other.
First of all, they realize that they can say whatever they want.
And I also think that they've taken the talking points idea to an extreme.
And generally speaking, with talking points, you have a lot of talking points and you just try to drop them in during a conversational interview.
You know, so you have them at the ready.
You don't normally load up all your talking points in each answer.
But what they've done, I believe, is they've determined these politicians or whoever's behind this, because this is trained.
This is a training exercise.
These people were trained to do this.
It goes like this.
I'm running a news organization, and I have to get a clip of XYZ, so I send some reporter out there, and as you know, you've had this happen.
You just have some guy come in from the network, and he yaks away for you for a half an hour, and they take a one-minute clip.
What do you mean?
Ten seconds.
Ten-second clip.
Sorry.
What am I thinking?
Yeah.
One minute.
That's a bonanza.
That's a win.
So what they've done is they've...
They've decided, the politicians in England have decided as a group that we're going to answer every single question the same way because they're only going to take one of these questions anyway.
And so we're going to get this message across no matter what you ask us.
And so now the news organization gets, the BBC gets this little interview and they say, well, what's the good question?
And they take the best question and use that because it's the most compelling question.
But meanwhile, they get the same exact answer no matter what the question.
And so it's basically, it's like script writing.
You know, they've created a cut and paste scenario for the news media and nobody's going to nobody's supposed to argue about this is just the way it is.
Yeah, the thing that's interesting is he would get fired because he wouldn't be doing it right.
Yeah, the thing that's interesting is that the journalists don't say anything.
It's a game.
It's all a big game.
Look, I've got to get a 10-second quote from you.
I just want to get the funniest ones.
I'm going to keep asking you questions until I get something that's a little more interesting.
Abhorrent is your word.
You know, it would be funny.
I think a funny news organization, if they had a sense of humor, would ask just some really strange question.
Just something completely off the wall.
And do you associate that with flying saucers?
Well, the way the British economy has been going is we have really good, you know, just some off the wall thing and still get that same stupid answer and then use that one.
I think, well, what we can do is we can edit in different questions in this existing video.
Oh, now you're talking.
Because, of course, no one would ever do that.
You'd be like a space ghost.
So do you think that HAARP is actually going to be enhanced by the superconductor lithium that NASA is shooting into the air?
What we're seeing here is a double-dipper session.
Hey, I found an article about Libya, which, you know, something that I guess we missed.
This is before the days, not weeks, and before we started throwing hellfire missiles on these poor people.
Apparently, Goldman Sachs took $1.3 billion from the Libyan Sovereign Wealth Fund in 2007, and they lost 98% of the money in the crisis.
98% of $1.3 billion.
And they actually even offered Libya to, you know, they offered him stock in Goldman Sachs to make up for this loss.
And I'm thinking this is something that just can't be overlooked.
This news item comes in and out of the news every so often.
Had you heard about this?
Because I didn't know about this one.
Yeah, I think so.
I didn't know about it.
And apparently the LIA, that's the Sovereign Wealth Fund, had about $53 billion in assets.
And even here it says, in 2011 after a civil war erupted in Libya and Gaddafi said he would not step down, the U.S. government ceded about $37 billion.
It seems like this was just a premeditated heist.
And it started somehow, I think it started with this Goldman Sachs who of course stole the money.
I mean you don't just lose 98%.
You think so?
Yeah, I think it's a criminal act somewhere.
Obviously.
Unless somebody lost the books.
I mean, Goldman Sachs always wins.
They're like, win, win, win, win, win.
I don't know why we're not working for them instead of doing this show.
I'm going to show my support by donating to No Agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on No Agenda.
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That must have been fun.
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It's been a while since I donated.
This show 317 was so good.
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Oh, lovely.
I think 317 should be the reference implementation of a No Agenda show.
Great way to introduce new people to No Agenda.
That's an interesting idea.
I'll take a note.
I'll note that down and re-listen to the show and see if you're right.
Big cheers from Tom.
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He's the Dutch guy in Australia that I send all of my cassette tapes to of all my radio shows from the 80s and 90s.
Oh, okay.
And he's digitized them all and put them on the web, which is awesome.
Good guy.
Yeah.
Maybe I should send some of my old stuff from CNET. No, maybe not.
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I don't think so.
Justin, we haven't gotten that far yet.
You can call your Governor a douchebag.
Justin Wagner, it would be nice to know why he's a douchebag.
You know, he sent me a note.
I think it's because he sent his Governor a question about the Protect IP Act.
And he got a standard...
It's linked in the show notes, actually.
I do remember to keep that in there.
And he got some standard form back saying, you know, the Protect IP Act is really great.
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I think he was really angry about the canned response.
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I agree with that, by the way.
Vancouver Island is fantastic with one of the prettiest towns on the West Coast, Victoria.
We're taking the trains, goodwillings.
Good...
Plains bad because I've heard it's amazing through the Rocky Mountains.
I've heard that too.
I thought I'd drop off a donation suggestion to think about some more creative incentives to get people to donate.
The challenge coins were a hit.
Podcast licenses are working and the night rings are cool.
Hope to get one myself.
What about no agenda money clip for our slave allowances?
I don't think it holds quarters.
Branded cigar scotch holders to hold them if we got them.
We're not putting you in charge of merchandising.
I think the money clip's a good idea.
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You've got karma.
And we got some double nickels on the dime.
That was also Alan's.
Alain's was one of them.
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Hearing about the other producers getting by and still inspired me to do the same.
Would like a shot of karma.
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Davin, not David.
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And he's a student.
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We got a lot of Canadians today.
We must have said something about Harper.
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Enjoy your show.
I'm tired of being a douchebag.
You just spare some karma.
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I've been feeling down lately.
Yeah.
Sorry.
You've got karma.
That's a karma's interruptus.
Sorry.
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How does that work?
That's kind of odd.
Is it the same person?
It's the Prozac twins.
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Well, definitely.
Get yourself a clunker, baby.
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Yeah, don't smoke the really green weed.
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His birthday is one thing, but...
Karma.
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And by the way, my wife mentioned today was the seventh day of the seventh month of the something or other.
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This is a very interesting year with your birthday and your age equaling 111.
Isn't there a couple months in this year that has five weekends?
Yeah, something's got the most.
I think November is really a weird month.
Yeah.
And we have 11-11-11 in November, which is really good.
Yeah, that's another hot one we've got to be on the lookout for.
Well, thank you all for supporting the show.
I think you can hear that we've been doing our work, and it's kind of interesting how complimentary we were on the Lagarde thing.
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You know, John and I don't talk at all during the week.
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It's your birthday, birthday.
I'll know what you're going to...
So, Jeffrey Stark, happy birthday to you today.
It's his 25th birthday.
Sir John Matthews says happy birthday to his Lady Matthews, who celebrates today as well.
And Ian Larson, I think we're still early on this, but I'll say it anyway.
47th birthday on the 14th.
We'll just probably have to do it again next week.
And then very important to me...
Miss Mickey celebrates her birthday tomorrow, and you know what a big deal it is for those Dutch girls to have the balloons and everything all set up, so happy birthday, darling.
I love you.
No knighthoods today, which is sad.
That's curious.
My daughter's birthday is on 7-Eleven.
Curious in what way?
Well, because it's close to Mickey's birthday.
Oh, okay.
Right.
Gee, that's curious.
I thought so.
And they look the same and they're almost the same age.
It's so curious.
One's taller.
Hey, did you hear that President Obama has offered 10,000 troops for Iraq?
As a gift?
Yeah, as a gift.
Yeah.
Remember that if they asked for any troops, even though they're supposed to bring them all home from Iraq, you can take that to the bank.
But if they ask for some troops to stay behind, by the way, that's combat troops.
Of course, there's 50,000 non-combat troops there in the green zone in the embassy, not to mention all the contractors and all that stuff.
No, the White House is offering, hey, would you like 10,000 of these?
It was a tribute?
It's like a wedding gift.
I don't know what it is.
I don't know.
So, one of the things that was on C-SPAN I couldn't resist.
Clinton, I think you mentioned this some weeks ago.
You think he's going senile.
Yeah.
I think it's all the blow he did.
Well, I've got two clips from Clinton I want to play.
One of them is just ridiculous.
But the other one, just as a setup, I want you to play Clinton babble.
And it shows that when he gives his speeches, he's in front of a bunch of young people.
It's like a bunch of bloggers, essentially.
And he talks forever.
I mean, it's unbelievable how long he babbles on.
But none of it makes any sense half the time.
Play this.
So we spend too much time majoring in the minors.
I want you to serve.
I want you to answer the how questions.
I want you to lobby for the things you clap for, like the DREAM Act.
But this economy is fragile.
We cannot go another decade continuing to fall in the percentage of our young people with college degrees.
We have to implement this student loan program, and then 100% of the people have to know about it.
You have to know.
Got to know.
This whole thing, he jumps from topic to topic to topic, and then his whole thing is about you've got to know.
I've seen this.
This is his Clinton Global Initiative, I think, in New York, and he's sitting in the chair and he has a hand mic, right?
No, no.
This is in front of a large group of students and he's standing at a podium.
This is the same, similar speech, I'm sure, but no, it wasn't about the Clinton Global Initiative.
Oh, it was, because that's all he talks about.
That's all he does, yeah.
So here's the thing that got me.
First of all, his whole thesis here was that you've got to know the facts.
You've got to know what's true and what's accurate.
So I want you to play this clip, and then I want to deconstruct it because it's unbelievable to me.
This is the President of the United States that doesn't know the difference between the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, and then he misquotes Martin Luther King on top of it.
If you look at the story of America, we had a lot of speeches, I bet, on the 4th of July that politics was already taking hold about what America means and what the ten of the framers were of and all of that.
The Declaration of Independence gave America a permanent mission.
The framers pledged their lives, their fortunes, their sacred honor to form a more perfect union.
That's 18th century speak.
In 21st century slang, what that means is, hey, we're not perfect, we're never going to be perfect, but we can always do better.
And our job is to keep doing better, to keep stumbling in the right direction.
Or in the words of Martin Luther King, the arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice.
Our job is to make sure the arc bends in the right direction.
And when I was president, I used to tell people all the time, to me, forming a more perfect union means widening the circle of opportunity, deepening the meaning of freedom, and strengthening the bonds of community.
And it requires all of us to keep growing and learning and embracing Huh.
This is a crock of crap.
I mean, for one thing, he bastardizes everything.
First of all, the Declaration of Independence never said anything about a more perfect union.
That was in the preamble of the Constitution written over a decade later.
And this is the President of the United States, by the way.
Stumble.
We've got to stumble forward.
And it's got to do with stumbling forward.
The reason it's in the preamble is because they had the Articles of Confederation which were thrown together right after the Declaration of Independence and it wasn't working and they had to have a better union of these different states so they worked together a little better.
And that's what more perfect union was about.
It wasn't about man's imperfection or anything like that.
And then he has this bullcrap quote from Martin Luther King, which is completely bogus.
The quote is as follows.
Let us realize the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.
Clinton has it.
Oh, the arc of history bends toward justice.
No, it doesn't.
Anyone who's read Indy Twainby knows it doesn't bend toward justice.
Justice never has.
It bends all kinds of different ways.
This is a...
The President of the United States that doesn't know what's in the Declaration of Independence, doesn't know what's in the Constitution, and then misquotes Martin Luther King, who's actually lifted that statement himself from a guy in 1853, Thomas Parker, or Theodore Parker, a very famous writer who did a book, which we should be on our list, called Justice and Conscience.
Anyway, the point is, this is a President that doesn't know The Declaration of Independence?
I mean, and then he babbles on about, you know, stumbling along and we have to be good to each other.
I mean, this to me is Clinton.
A liar, makes it up as he goes along, a horrible person.
John C. DeVore acts pet peeve of the day.
Let me just say one thing.
When I was listening to that clip with fresh ears, I had not heard it.
To me, it sounded a bit like, first of all, he didn't write it.
Some kid is writing this stuff because he's too busy.
He's got other stuff to do.
Hookers and blow, which is what he does.
And I think as he was reading this, he's like, this doesn't make sense.
Whatever.
Stumble forward, whatever.
I don't think he wrote it.
I think he's just reading along, doing whatever he's doing, because that's kind of how it works.
He had no time to write stuff.
I disagree.
Do you think he's actually that stupid?
These speeches, it's like when he came into that Obama press conference and took it over and started babbling.
He's got all the stuff in his brain.
He had no notes.
He wasn't reading from a prompter.
There was no prompter anywhere to be seen.
He was just yakking away, you know, making it up as he goes along.
You know, misunderstanding the mechanism of the Constitution and, you know, kind of demeaning it because a bunch of bonehead framers, they don't know anything about anything that's going on today.
Just 18th century speak for, you know...
Stumbling forward.
I like the stumbling forward.
That's slang for stumbling forward.
And this was his 4th of July speech, is that what that was?
It came, I think, a couple days after the 4th.
Did you see our current president's 4th of July speech?
No, gee, I missed it.
I just feel so bad about it.
It's a hello everybody bonanza.
It's just great.
Would you like to, can we share this?
Would you like to hear it?
Oh, I'd love to hear what he had to say.
Hello everybody!
Hello everybody!
Cleveland rocks everybody!
Happy 4th of July!
Happy 4th of July!
Hello, everybody!
On behalf of the entire Obama family, we want to welcome you here to the White House.
Now, you've got to listen, because when you hear like this, Woo!
You hear that?
That's Michelle, who's standing right next to him.
Really?
Yeah, she's going, Woo!
Listen.
Right now in small towns and big cities all across America, folks are getting together in their backyards, they're raising flags, firing up grills, and enjoying time with family and with friends.
And it's a tradition that we try to follow here at the White House, although I've got to say we've got a few more people here.
Now, of course, who's he going to have there?
If you have to propagate...
No, Biden was not there.
No, this was...
Because, of course, 4th of July, we have to celebrate by thanking all of the kids that we've sent off to war to die and get maimed.
Of course, these aren't the dead ones or the maimed ones.
So he's got the whole lawn, and he's on the vestibule.
He's up on the first floor.
The whole lawn's military.
I'm sorry?
Military.
All branches.
All branches.
And he's up on the first floor, kind of like a Mussolini type thing.
Like Mussolini?
He's up on the first floor?
He's up on the first floor shouting down, everyone's on the grass.
And I cannot think of anybody I would rather celebrate with than all of you.
The men and women.
Of our military and our extraordinary military families.
That's why he's up on the first floor so he doesn't have to be down there with you schmucks.
I couldn't think...
I'm going to fire up the grill!
On the roof!
Woo!
They're really excited.
So let me just check to see who we've got here.
Listen to Michelle.
We've got some army here?
I can't hear it.
How about Navy?
Navy?
Anyway.
So that's what he did.
Hello, everybody!
Happy Fourth of July!
I love the Mussolini thing.
It's weird.
I've never seen that.
I mean, if you're doing a barbecue...
Actually, I should do that.
I don't have a first floor.
It'd be great.
Hey!
Hello, friends!
Put a podium on the roof.
How you doing down there?
It was weird.
It was just weird.
It was like, oh, okay.
And then he had like one from each branch up there.
From the Marines, the Navy, the Air Force.
They were up there with him?
Yeah.
One from each.
Yeah, one from each.
Up on the vestibule, on the first floor.
Yeah, it was like, it was the weirdest thing ever.
I'd never...
I'd love to.
I'd miss that.
Yeah, it's on C-SPAN. Where I find all of my gems.
All of the good stuff is there.
And then...
This is kind of funny.
It kind of goes along with the military.
This is an old clip from President Obama, then candidate Obama.
And I'd never heard this clip.
Maybe we missed it.
I don't know.
But it was just kind of interesting to listen to this.
He's my age, right?
President Obama?
Yeah.
He's 48, 49.
He's around that age.
Then, you know, we're betraying.
What I think is a solemn pact that we make with our veterans.
My father served in World War II, and when he came home, he got the services that he needed.
Now how does that work?
How old was his father when he served in World War II? I don't know.
Well, the numbers don't add up.
What are you talking about his stepfather?
Even then?
He's not talking about that guy in Kenya.
Even then?
How old is his stepfather?
Well, I don't know.
I mean, so he had to be at least 18 in 1945 when he came home from World War II. Obama was...
So, let me just do the numbers here for a second.
I'm going to check the book of knowledge while you do that.
Oh, this is a very good...
I'm just saying, if he was 18 in 1945, and then he was probably more like 20, but okay, let's say 18...
I mean, when did he have Obama?
He wasn't his father.
The real father is Barack Obama Sr., the Kenyan guy.
I understand that.
I still want to know, how old was his father when he became Obama's stepfather?
Look, my grandfather, sure, my grandfather served in World War II in the South Pacific, lieutenant commander.
I think it's doable.
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I find this sketchy.
I mean, so his stepfather was old enough to be his grandfather?
Really?
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, I know exactly what you're saying.
Let's say 1940, you're in the war.
So you have to be at least 20 or 18.
Right.
So today is 2011.
So we're talking about 60, 71 years ago.
Okay.
Well, maybe I'm just seeing spooks.
So the guy could be, you know, he could be 91 today and been in World War II and still be alive and be his father as possible.
All right, good.
I mean, I don't know.
I mean, I think you might be honest.
I stand corrected.
No, it's okay.
I know.
I mean, you might be right.
I don't know.
Maybe it's bullcrap.
I mean, you could be making it up.
It wouldn't surprise me.
Hey, I found the account executive job in Atlanta for public broadcasting.
This is not for NPR. I'm sorry if I'm mistaken.
I'm a PBS. Public broadcasting is similar.
Yeah.
Well, it's also funded by viewers like you.
Account executive.
Do you love public television?
Yes.
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I mean, please!
So the companies that you hear underwriting your public stations, they're there to grow their business.
Isn't that advertising?
Totally.
Okay, I have to back up on this show.
If looking at the extended family, Obama never had a stepfather.
He had Charles T. Payne, his great uncle, who served in World War II. And why did he say his father if he was talking about his uncle, great uncle?
Did he say, if he said his father, this is a, I think you're on to something here.
Just again, just I think all these guys just banging it up.
Let's listen to it again.
Then, you know, we're betraying.
What I think is a solemn pact that we make with our veterans.
My father served in World War II, and when he came home, he got the services that he needed.
There you go.
No, you're on to something.
This is bull crap.
What father?
The guy from Kenya?
I guess.
The boyfriend that lived in Indonesia?
I guess.
I don't know.
No, it's this guy.
His great-uncle.
Charles Payne greets his great-niece by Michelle Obama off-frame.
His great-nephew.
He's not even his initial.
Barack Obama in 65th anniversary of D-Day.
That's where he hung out with him.
This is like Clinton.
Yeah.
They're cut from the same cloth.
They're just kind of making stuff up, saying what they feel like.
That's why it needs to be telepromptered.
Oh, there you go.
He doesn't have a father that served in World War II. There you go.
But his dad got taken.
Maybe he has more dads.
Maybe it was the other Obama who did have a dad who served in World War II, right?
Second, the other Obama, the one that doesn't have the gray hair.
He has that big scar on his neck.
Do you ever see that?
Yeah, I did.
No one ever talks about that.
The implant went wrong.
There's a message here, a telegraphing message.
The French Army, and this is sent to me by Baron von Pelsmacher, so you know that he's all over stuff.
The French Army will no longer drop weapons to the Libyan rebels.
This is what defense minister Gérard Langouet said on Tuesday.
According to France, the opposition is now capable of supplying itself.
Dropping weapons to the Libyan rebels is no longer necessary, he says, during a press conference.
There's a political organization independent of government in Libya, in Tripoli, and he explained the decision by the French government, the droppings we did in the last few weeks, but the regions can now function autonomously.
I think this is basically a message saying they're giving up.
They're no longer going to support these guys because these guys can't do the job.
I think the protesters, which strangely enough turned into rebels, I think they were supposed to go in and chop off Gaddafi's head.
They're not getting the job done.
So they're like, screw you guys.
I mean, you can't just say we're not dropping weapons.
It's not about weapons.
It's about ammunition.
I think something's going to happen very soon.
Something big that will eliminate Gaddafi once and for all.
I think it's code.
Well, they painted themselves into a corner on this whole Libya thing.
Yeah, because, you know...
Too many people that are there like, apparently like Gaddafi, that's underplayed.
They don't want to talk about that.
They thought it was going to be a no-brainer, you know, weeks not day, or days not weeks.
And this has turned into just a fiasco.
They don't want to talk about it.
And, uh...
Now they're screwed.
They're going to have to assassinate the guy.
And then make some stories up.
I think the whole thing is going to be a creation that's going to be worth deconstructing more than a few times.
But this is not turning out for the best of...
For the Libyan people, certainly not.
No, they got stuck in it.
No, I'd say the Libyan...
Welcome to the new world architecture.
Yeah, is that what she said?
The new architecture of the world.
Yeah, that's good.
President Obama is sending a delegation to the Republic of South Sudan to attend the ceremony, marking the Declaration of Independence of the Republic of Southern Sudan.
Now, this, of course, is another country that will amazingly have this revolt of people, because now that we have an independent Southern Sudan, by the way, where all the oil is, There's going to be a Twitter revolution, Facebook.
It'll be part of the Arab Spring.
George Clooney's already there with his satellite eye in the sky, with his handler, you know, there to convince the public that it's okay that we're sending in blue helmets.
Four and a half thousand are about to enter there from, I believe, was it Nigeria?
Or, I think it was Nigeria.
So, the president announced his presidential delegation to go celebrate the ceremony.
Now, who would you take along for a fun party?
O'Biden.
No.
I just keep missing with O'Biden.
I know I'm going to hit it eventually.
No, you've got to take along Colin Powell.
Oh, please.
You've got to take on Johnny Carson, who's the Secretary of State for the Bureau of African Affairs.
You've got to take along Barry...
Wait a minute.
This is...
Brooke Anderson...
It was the Chief of Staff Counselor for the National Security Staff.
It's like all these military people.
General Carter Ham, United States, Africa Command.
Why don't we just shove it in their face?
It's like, hey, we got a whole bunch of military people coming to help you celebrate because we're going to take over your ass and take your oil and build the pipeline straight down to South Africa.
Like, hello?
So I wonder what's going on, and there's a bunch of oil workers striking in Kazakhstan, and Stink...
Stink?
Stink was going to do a concert, and he's backed off, and he's got a bunch of political commentary.
I think this guy's going to get in the game.
Stink?
Oh, he's got to.
He's got to.
Yeah, I mean, you know...
So, should we just talk briefly, because it's a distraction, but do we need to talk about this phone hacking thing in the UK? It's been going on for years, by the way.
Yeah, no, it goes back to, I think the earlier ones were 2005, 2007, they've been doing it for a while.
Yeah, so I think I kind of...
There's only one way that I can look at what's going on there.
For those of you who don't know, and it's like really it's been convoluted and complicated, and all of a sudden it came to the forefront, which I think I know why.
But in the background of all this, there's two things happening.
One is Murdoch, of course, the News Corp Empire, elects presidents and prime ministers.
It's like they are the most powerful media conglomerate, I think, in the world.
And without a doubt, one of the most powerful ones in Gitmo Nation, United Kingdom of Great Britons.
And so very powerful, which makes people kind of afraid.
And he has been trying to acquire the remaining stake of BSkyB, which is like a multi-billion dollar deal.
And in order to acquire that, he needs governmental approval.
So there's leverage there, right?
Whoever's in charge can make him richer.
And so there's a lot of leverage.
Conversely, the BBC, which is the government Ministry of Truth, they don't want this guy having so much power because they all could be out of a job.
Because they are the Ministry of Truth.
Go away, dude.
Formerly Australian, now American.
And they've been trying this for a long, long time.
When people talk about phone hacking, it's like really no big deal.
There's two ways you can hack someone's voicemail.
And I think voicemail is used in the UK a lot differently than it's used here.
Do people still use voicemail in America?
I don't think so.
I use it.
I mean, I don't use it.
You never call me back when I leave work.
Well, it's because I don't use it.
But they get the Google voicemail now where they transcribe it and send you an email.
Right.
Which is laughable.
Yeah, the translations are great.
Every single person who says, Hi, Adam, it always translates as, Hi, Dad.
Hi, Dad.
So this so-called hacking is very simple.
If you know someone's mobile phone number and they probably have the standard either 0000 or 1111 or 4444 or 1234, because people, of course, rarely have changed their voicemail passwords.
So you work in tandem.
So John, if we were to hack someone's voicemail, like we're so sophisticated hackers, you'd call the voicemail, you'd call the line, and while it's ringing, I would call the line, because now you've engaged it in a ring, maybe the person picks up or not, and then I go to voicemail.
When I hit the voicemail, I hit star or whatever it is, and I try all the standard passcodes, and I'm in.
And so this is, you know, happened to celebrities, celebrities, notably Hugh Grant, but also it's, you know, the news of the world has been doing this to all, this is how they got their news, you know, by hacking.
And people would leave stupid, long, information-sensitive messages.
So they've been trying to hang up the Murdoch gang on this, and they finally...
Because no one cares about Hugh Grant.
No one cares about hacking at politicians.
It's like, good!
It's like, great!
Hugh Grant likes trannies, and we know that.
It's like, who cares?
Finally, they have something that they can leverage Murdoch on is they find out that these News of the World guys hacked into a young teenage, 13 or 12-year-old girl who was missing.
She turns up dead six months later.
They find her dead six months later.
But they were in her voicemail system, so they hacked into her voicemail and either inadvertently or purposely deleted voicemails Giving the parents, and I'm not sure how they found out, but giving the parents the hope that the child was still alive and checking their voicemails and deleting them.
Now, the minute you touch the kids, oh, well then, of course, everyone goes insane.
So it took them like three years to figure out how to finally nail down News of the World and, duh, protect the children.
Oh, I can't believe you were mean to a child or to a child's parents.
So they finally have it.
And...
I think that Murdoch, in order to get his deal, he had to do something.
I guess instead of firing people who were responsible, he's now just shut down all of the news of the world, which is huge.
I mean, he has to reopen it under a different name or whatever.
I think they sell like 14 million copies per...
It only comes out on Sundays.
It was the first thing he bought when he moved into the London market.
So this is about power, about political power, and who's in charge, and at the end of the day also about money.
And it's a huge distraction, but believe me, Murdoch runs a lot in Get My Nation East.
Yeah, I thought it was a huge distraction too, but the message that you get out of it, I think the whole thing is just ridiculous, but you do get the message that at least Murdoch, from Murdoch and his staff's perspective...
The satellite delivery of information is more valuable than this huge newspaper operation that has 14 million daily sales.
That tells you something right there.
I think you're spot on.
Because having political influence through your Sky Broadcasting, that is what it's about.
It's not about money for this guy.
It's about the power.
So we learned a lesson, which is that broadcast media is more powerful, at least from a perspective of a power-oriented guy, than print media, which doesn't have any oomph left.
It's done.
Even in the UK, which is surprising.
I find that surprising, because it's still very much a newspaper place.
You know what?
Murdoch's a leader.
He knows what side his bread is buttered on.
He knows.
Speaking of which...
He's not a dummy.
Having lived in Gitmo Nation East, you know, the eating habits of the Brit, I would say, I'm generalizing, but I've seen nothing but horrible.
People don't cook at home anymore.
This is no longer a country that the families are all busted apart.
The place is a shambles.
I hate to say it.
In general, I think people listening to the show probably have their shit together.
So what do most people do?
They go to Tesco's or the gas station where you have all these mini-marts.
That's where people buy their food.
And John, you've been in the UK. When you go into these mini-marts, you have these sandwiches.
Like your ham and cheese, your cheese and onion, your chicken and bacon.
And they're made fresh, right?
Then they're in a triangular.
Have you seen them?
They're in a triangular.
Yeah, the Pret-a-Porter sells them all over the place.
Right.
And you look at it and it's like, hey, that looks pretty good.
You know, it's like, yeah, this is good stuff.
And I've bought it.
I've eaten it before.
So typically these sandwiches are no more than half a day old, I'd say.
Well, they've now come up with new technology.
And these sandwiches will now be replaced with sandwiches that will have a shelf life of 14 days.
Wow.
And they're doing it by removing the oxygen from the packaging and replacing it with nitrogen and carbon dioxide.
So that your sandwiches, even though 14 days old, will still be edible and you'll love it.
Edible's the word.
Play the clip I have of Cameron giving one of those little things they do in the parliament where they yell at each other on the knifing.
What's changed?
Well, what we have done is we've banned, we have banned the Tekriti Taliban, so we have taken action.
But it is, as I, as I, as my right oral friend, that the Lord Chancellor will hastily...
No, this is the other one.
Oh, I'm so sorry.
It's not labelled Cameron.
Here we go.
It's the Bob Blackmun.
Thank you, Mr.
Speaker.
Twelve days ago, a young constituent of mine was the victim of a vicious knife attack.
This last weekend, another 16-year-old young man was also the victim of a knife attack.
Will my Right Honour friend join with me in condemning this upsurge in gang-related violence and confirm those that carry knives will face a custodial sentence if apprehended?
What I've just...
As I've just said to the Honourable Lady Opposite, I think it is important we send a clear message about this.
We are doing that with the new offence that carries a mandatory sentence.
That is a signal to anyone who is contemplating carrying a knife.
But I think we should be frank with ourselves in this House and in the country.
That purely looking at this from a criminal justice situation isn't the answer.
We've got to ask ourselves, why are so many young children joining gangs?
Why aren't our families and communities doing more to keep them close and prevent the carrying of knives?
And that is something that runs right across government and indeed across our society as well.
So this was not the only one.
There was a bunch of people that came up with these knife stories.
Well, that's always been a big thing in the UK. Here we have guns that we want to get off the streets.
In the UK, there's been studies, there's more chance you get knifed in the UK than shot by a gun in the United States.
Everyone's walking around with knives there.
I think they should let guns be legal and then maybe they would put a stop to this.
Yeah, this knife thing has to end.
Get the guns in.
Get the guns in.
No more knives.
This is ridiculous.
One thing, when you fire a gun, it makes a very loud noise, and everybody in the area can hear it.
And they would be alerted.
With a knife, it's a silent killer.
I think these knives are the wrong...
It's just not good.
They should legalize other weapons.
And also, you can defend yourself.
A guy who pulls out a knife, you can pull out your gun, and from a distance, you can stop him.
You can certainly intimidate him.
Good idea, John.
I'll bring that up at the next Prime Minister's Question Time.
Blackwater has, I'm sorry, Xi, formerly known as Blackwater, has a new director.
And the director is Jack Quinn, former lawyer to President Bill Clinton.
Oh, yeah.
Unbelievable.
Yeah, it's the Shadow Puppet Theater.
These guys are great.
These guys are fantastic.
All right, I want to wind up.
I don't have much else other than I've been studying the text of a new bill, which we missed, introduced May 25th in the year of our Lord, 2011.
HR 1981, which is Protecting Children from Internet Pornographers Act of 2011.
And of course, we all agree, regardless of what's in this document, John, if you go out on the street and you say, should we have, what is your, if you ask anyone on the street, what do you think of House Resolution 1981, Protecting Children from Internet Pornographers Act of 2011?
Everyone will say, it's great!
Save the children!
It's the old classic, yeah, they go back to the well.
Yeah.
Okay, so a couple things that, and of course the way this, you know, so here's this, I got this a little late this morning actually.
I didn't have time to look at it all, but I'm going to get into it.
But literally it has like section 1956C7D title 18 will be amended by inserting 1466A visual represent, you know, it's like, okay, so I got to go back and look at all these documents.
But there's a couple things that jumped out at me.
Section 4H, retention of certain records.
A provider of an electronic communications service or remote computing service shall retain for a period of at least 18 months the temporarily assigned network address the service assigns to each account.
Which is quite overbearing I would say for ISPs.
You now have to keep records for 18 months of a temporarily assigned IP address which I guess will bind it to a MAC address of the computer which is tough.
But then here's the stuff they start slipping in.
Section 8D1 is used in this section.
The term course of conduct means a series of acts over a time, however short, indicating a continuity or purpose.
So this is not about pornography.
This is about harassment.
The term harassment means a serious act or course of conduct directed at a specific person that causes substantial emotional distress in person and serves no legitimate purpose.
So this is it, ladies and gentlemen.
Thank you for my column today, Adam.
Oh, I just wrote your column.
Let me give you a little more.
The term intimidation means a serious act or course of conduct directed at any specific person that, number one, causes fear or apprehension in such person.
Well, then the TSA should be arrested.
Right.
Or serve no legitimate purpose.
Again.
So under the guise of save the children from pornography, you will no longer be able to harass someone if it has no legitimate purpose.
I guess if it's legitimate, you can.
But if I cause substantial emotional distress, like...
You hurt my...
Like, hello listeners within the sound of my voice.
If I've caused you any emotional distress today for no legitimate reason, you can have me locked up.
It is that simple.
I'll never talk about Clinton again.
It is that simple.
Say something.
Say something.
We're doomed.
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PCMag?
Is that what you're going to write it for?
I'm going to write it as soon as the show's over.
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Hello, hello?
Yeah, thanks, John.
I really appreciate it.
Let me see, coming up on the No Agenda stream, as we continue, let me see what is the new entries here.
Liberty in Exile is pretty cool.
They just put up a new show, so we'll make sure we get Liberty in Exile on.
No Agenda stream...
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No.
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It was done in 1999.
Never heard of it before.
It's definitely worth...
Is it on Netflix or something like that?
It might be.
It's worth tracking down.
It's a little gory, but it's worth tracking down.
It's quite amusing.
And people by there should also know about a website that I've been using to track down movies like this.
It's called LocateTV.com.
Very useful.
And does that have BitTorrents and illegal stuff?
No, no.
BitTV is a legitimate site that essentially you plug in stuff.
If it's going to be playing on Dish Network or any of the TV stations, networks, cable, anything, over the next couple of weeks it will tell you where and when and you can set your DVR. Awesomeness.
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Sounds like a winner.
So thanks again, everyone, for your support.
And nice to see new donors coming in.
Continue that support.
Continue helping us keep the program running so we don't have to...
Well, I mean, I'm already moving to get back my Amazon money.
So we don't have to get fired by the BBC. Or ITV. Or Murdoch for that reason.
Whatever he owns.
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