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We're talking to CRA computers and taking names and database addresses.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Thursday, June 23rd, 2011.
Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 315.
This is No Agenda.
Beaming with pride here at the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center.
And get my nation west, the People's Republic of Southern California.
Home of the Miss USA factory manufactured Diamond Crown in the morning.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where I said head it, not hit it, I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
In the morning.
Yeah, you can head me anytime you want.
So I'm driving a Volt.
He's such a douchebag.
He's like, yeah, you're a PR shill now.
A total PR shill.
In driving a Volt, they gave it to me to drive around so I could talk about it because I'm, you know, like a blogger.
Yeah, yeah, we got a great interactive strategy here.
Well, I give a Volt away to influential people.
Yeah, I'm jealous driving around in an I can't get Laidmobile.
Oh, I got in the Volt for five days, so what?
I can't get Laidmobile.
Oh yeah, the Volt, which looks a little bit like a mix between an old Pontiac Aztec and a Prius.
Yeah, there's your Chick-Mobile.
I'm telling, this is what I said.
I'm telling you that this is perfect.
You are exactly the right audience for these lame-ass cars.
Old men.
Old men who can't get laid anymore.
There you go.
Hey, Chevy, great move.
Great move, getting the car-buying market, guys.
Great move.
Read all about it at MarketWatch.com.
With your shill, John C. DeVorek.
Anyway, so they've traced the E. coli to the beans for sure.
Well, hold on a second.
In the morning to you, John.
Oh.
And in the morning to all boots on the ground, feet and ears.
And all ships at sea.
And all of our human resources who are charged up and ready to go as usual.
In the chat room, noagentastream.com, noagentachat.net.
Completely charged, I can see.
I can't stop thinking it's Sunday.
It's bugging me to no end.
Because that car you're driving is a time machine.
It's actually a time machine.
So let me ask you a question about E. coli.
I thought that E. coli had to attach itself to a protein like an animal.
I didn't think it could attach itself to vegetables.
I don't know.
I don't know.
They have a human-to-human transference now, though.
Well, apparently this is a human-based E. coli that's been floating around for a while, according to the...
I mean, it could be a biological weapon for all we know, but the fact is, I don't know what the point of it is.
But I thought it was interesting that more women than men got this ailment because they're the ones that seem to have been suckered into the idea that eating raw bean sprouts on your sandwich is a good idea, which did crop up.
I remember when that first cropped up.
And of course, I'm in the Berkeley area, so it would have cropped up around here.
Bean sprout heaven.
And so, you know, one of these, you know, you go to some place and say, would you like, you know, this is a sandwich, order a sandwich.
And I remember the...
They actually asked, is it like a topping?
Yeah.
They said, would you like bean sprouts on your sandwich?
And I think the first time I heard that, I said, what?
It's like, why would I want bean sprouts on my sandwich?
I'll have a chocolate yogurt.
Would you like bean sprouts on that?
Or Jimmy's?
The other one that cropped up around here, I think around the mid-90s, was wheatgrass.
Oh, I remember that, yeah.
Well, Mickey's totally on board with the bean sprout thing.
Why?
Why?
Because, I don't know, it's healthy.
Well, who says?
Oh, she says.
I mean, look, she's making the salad, so I'm just eating it.
But she had some other bean sprouts the other day.
They were kind of hard.
They were, like, crunchy.
I don't know what they were.
Were they the big giant ones like the Chinese cook with?
Well, not giant.
They're like a pebble.
It's like pebbles in your salad with a little tail.
Maybe she threw some rocks in there.
Like a baby.
This salad's wonderful.
I remember one time we were at the...
It'll take 20 seconds before she walks in here and gives me the face.
The face.
She's on the delay.
It's now called the face.
It's the face.
It's not the look.
It's the face.
You've got to be very, very careful.
It's the stink eye.
Oh, yeah.
You've got to be careful of that.
Oh, my goodness.
You're making me look like an idiot.
Yeah.
Hey, I dove into our...
Let me say it differently.
There's only one thing that makes me more angry than the actual actions of the elites, John.
You know that, right?
What was that, Adam?
I mean, it's one thing to...
By the way, I think I accurately predicted 5,000 troops being drawn down, which is exactly the number.
Yeah, total 10,000 this year.
But they'll come up with some other reason why they can't bring the second 5,000 home.
Oh, yeah.
No, I'm totally...
I'm on board with this 1,000% that they're going to come up with some bogus reason they can't actually do the simplest...
By the way, if you read the front page of today's New York Times...
I didn't, thank you.
What do you think a headline would be on the troop withdrawal?
Write a headline for me.
Troop withdrawal.
President makes good on promise.
President orders rapid group cuts in Afghanistan.
Rapid.
Hold on a second.
Let me take you back, John.
Hop into your Chevy Volt.
Let's go back in your time machine, everybody, to 2007.
I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president...
It is the first thing I will do.
I will get our troops home.
We will bring an end to this war.
You can take that to the bank.
Yay!
You take that to the bank.
I think that was specifically referring to Iraq.
Well, he didn't do that there either, now did he?
No, well, that's a good point.
By the way...
In other words, what difference does it make?
Yes.
When President Obama took office, there were...
Do you know how many troops there were in Afghanistan when he came into office?
I think there were 50 or 60,000.
Less, less.
38,000.
Oh, there were 38,000 when he got in?
Yeah, 38,000 when he got in.
Then it just built up, and then we had the surge, an additional 30,000.
So if we actually take out the 33,000, which of course is the part that really...
It's one thing to lie and cheat and finagle and weasel, and oh, it's a rapid drawdown.
It's another to throw the number 33 in my face.
And by the way, how is it a rapid drawdown if it's going to take three years?
It depends on your definition of rapid.
The World War II only lasted four.
So 68,000 troops will be left, which is almost double what was there when he came into office.
Go figure it out.
Now, the new normal is, of course, all these smaller wars everywhere without personnel.
See, this is the great thing.
You can still have your really expensive stuff, you know, your drone helicopters.
Don't think that's a cheap machine, by the way.
You got your drone helicopters, but you got no troops anywhere.
Just, you know, a million dollars of hellfire.
This is great.
The military-industrial complex wins.
We win because no one gets killed, at least on our side.
Now, of course, we lose because it's going to be, you know, another half a trillion dollars.
Just until the end of this year.
It's absolutely outrageous.
Absolutely outrageous.
Guy getting up there lying about stuff.
Rapid.
5,000.
And immediately on The Voice, you know that NBC show?
Yeah, the singing thing.
Yeah, they had all these patriotic songs.
Coincidentally, this particular episode, like America...
Coincidence?
I think not!
America the Beautiful.
Oh, I missed that.
That's pretty funny.
Oh, jeez.
Oh, horrible.
And then this morning on CNN, it's like, you know, you get military wives.
Yeah, he might be coming home.
You know, that's so insulting.
It's so insulting.
It really is.
I found a...
It was...
I don't know if you...
A lot of people...
This relates to it.
A lot of people started tweeting and...
Fox edited Jon Stewart!
Oh, you know, this is the stupidest thing I have ever seen.
Yeah, and we're not going to talk about that story, but I'm like, I might as well go watch and see what it was.
It was nothing.
They edited nothing.
It doesn't matter.
You're surprised.
And Jon Stewart apparently made a big deal out of it.
No, he didn't.
I watched Jon Stewart.
He did not make a big deal out of it.
Well, someone made a big deal out of it.
Guys like Olbermann.
Oh, so...
I go to watch the episode, which is Chris Matthews.
Chris Matthews?
No.
Chris Wallace.
Chris Wallace.
Ted Wallace.
Over there on the Fox network.
And here's the opening tease.
We'll talk with comedian Jon Stewart a little later.
But first, we're honored to sit down with Defense Secretary Robert Gates.
I'm like, oh, of course!
We've got to be distracted so no one watches the actual information where the guy's sitting there with Charles Gates.
Because that's where the real information was, of course.
It was a, what do you call it, an elite fest, I would have to say.
When Secretary of Defense, he's still that for a couple more days, was asked about the so-called hostilities in Libya.
And, you know, this is all about the war powers resolution, you know, the whole charade.
There's no hostility, so we can do whatever we want.
Well, but when Gates is saying this, and you have to go look at the video, the show notes, 315.nashownotes.com, he's actually smiling.
Secretary Gates, is the U.S. involved in hostilities in Libya?
The way I like to put it is, from our standpoint at the Pentagon, we're involved in a limited kinetic operation.
And he's just smiling.
We call that a limited kinetic operation.
Well, it is funny.
Well, yeah, but it's not that funny.
It's sad.
It's sad.
Where do they dream this stuff?
You know, he was laughing about the fact that it was actually one of the, obviously, male boys who came up with that idea for the phrase.
We spent months working on that phrase, kinetic opportunity, and it was like the mailboy came up with it.
They should have added limited kinetic opportunity for winning the future.
They could have combined it.
They could have put a little more to it.
He went on just to pour a little bit more on top of the flames there.
If I'm in Qaddafi's palace, I suspect I think I'm at war.
Okay, let me just check.
John, are you in the palace yet?
I suspect that they're bombing me.
If I'm in the palace, not outside, not crossing the border, if I'm in the palace, I suspect I'm at war.
The reason I'm asking, of course, is that...
And this douchebag doesn't go like, what?
Are you out of your mind, Gates, old man?
No, he doesn't say that.
Let me go to the next question on the script.
President Obama, and you kind of ducked the question very ably, I must say.
President Obama told Congress this week that the War Powers Act does not apply to what's going on in Libya.
The official White House report to Congress said this.
U.S. military operations are distinct from the kind of hostilities contemplated by the War Powers Act And the President reportedly rejected the legal opinion of the Pentagon's General Counsel, Jay Johnson, as well as the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel.
Question.
Question.
Are you comfortable with that?
What a lead-in, huh?
Is that a script or what?
Well, obviously it's a script.
You're reading off a prompter, but I don't like the setup where you present some information and you say, question.
Well, yeah, but that's to alert the old man.
Question, huh?
What?
Question means it's your line is coming up, Billy Boy Gates.
I think that the president is in a position to take the advice of a variety of people and on legal as other matters.
That he has the opportunity to make his own decisions.
I think that, in fact, I'm confident he would not make a judgment along these lines if he were not confident that he was acting in a constitutional manner.
Well, I understand that you're saying he's confident and comfortable with the fact that he's operating in a constitutional manner.
But, you know, to someone who sees we're spending, what, $10 million a day, we have drones bombing Libya, we have surveillance, we have intel, how is that not his hostilities?
Well, I'm going to defer to the White House and to the President on the legal interpretations.
You said it.
We need to get the legal interpretation of the word hostilities.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's a bunch of crap.
Yeah, but it's more than just a bunch of crap.
It looks like our IRC server got slammed.
That's interesting.
Slammed with what?
Like killed.
I have not seen that happen ever.
Wow.
IRC's servers go down every so often.
They have net splits, but this is...
Wow, I've never seen that, where everything just absolutely like...
Blew up.
It's lolsec.
It's lolsec.
Hey, you know, we did miss one thing, John.
I'm a little pissed at myself.
During the whole Wienergate thing, Yeah?
I missed one.
They pulled a fast one on me.
Executive Order 13575.
Oh, okay.
Oh, yeah.
Hold on a second.
I'll bring it up here.
Executive Order 135...
Oops.
Oh, I don't want these.
No thanks.
Go away with your damn ads.
I hate your ads.
This is the White House Rural Council.
Now, it may not sound like much, but there's a lot of things that are in this executive order.
This came out on June 9th.
The height of Wienergate.
I think they just have this all written up, ready to go, and then like...
Oh, they probably have a bunch of stuff in advance.
Yeah, and I warned ourselves, we need to pay attention because, you know, something's going to happen, we're going to miss it.
No, it's not like we missed it by a mile.
No, but still, it's still 10, 11 days.
So this is President Obama's 86th executive order, which, by the way, puts him...
He's getting...
See, Bush had 290 over two terms, so Obama's getting up there.
He's getting close.
At least on par with the track record.
Okay, so this is the White House Rural Council.
It's designed...
Let me give you the exact...
Let me give you Section 1.
Policy.
Section 1.
Policy.
Which, by the way, you could also pronounce as policy.
Policy.
Sixteen percent of the American population lives in rural counties.
Strong, sustainable rural communities are essential to winning the future and ensuring American competitiveness in the years ahead.
These communities supply our food, fiber, and energy, safeguard our natural resources, and are essential in the development of science and innovation.
Though rural communities face numerous challenges, they also present enormous economic potential.
The federal government has an important role to play in order to expand across to the capital necessary for economic growth, promote innovation, improve access to healthcare and education, and expand our outdoor recreational activities on public lands.
Do you know what this is leading to?
Because I'm ready to break it down for you.
FEMA concentration camps.
No, this is Agenda 21, my friend.
This is Agenda 21 to the T. Oh, Agenda 21, that idiotic thing from the UN. Yeah, but it's a little frightening.
Yeah, I know, it's bad.
So what's the executive order number?
It's 13575.
So who is on this White House Rural Council?
You'd think we'd have some farmers and some other people, don't you?
Monsanto.
Well, how about the following people?
Tim Geithner, Bob Gates, Eric Holder, Ken Salazar, Gary Locke, Hilda Solis, Kathleen Sebelius, Ray LaHood, Arnie Duncan, Janet Napolitano, Lisa Jackson, Michael Kops, Peter Orzag, John Holdren, Austin Goolsbee...
It just goes on and on and on.
It's the entire...
Valerie Jarrett, by the way.
May I just add my favorite...
What is she doing on there?
Well, she's really important.
She's the White House Office of Public Engagement and Intergovernmental Affairs.
Of course, she serves on the board of Local Initiative Support Corporation, which completely uses Agenda 21 language.
Well, explain to people out there what Agenda 21 is if they haven't, because we really never discuss it in great detail on the show.
So it's a very hidden agenda.
It's not hidden.
You can go to the UN website and download a copy.
No, I know, but the way it's propagated is a little hidden.
So it's the Sustainable Development Project, which I think 173 nations signed on to, and this was signed by, I think Bill Clinton signed this, actually.
So, this brings in, and this is the real key, and it's even in this executive order, it brings in NGOs, non-governmental organizations, i.e.
money laundering practices, to basically take away your land.
So, here are the keywords.
Sustainable development is the word you have to look out for whenever that, that basically means we're going to take your land because you don't know how to develop it, you stupid slave.
Social equity is another big one.
To benefit equally from...
In other words, redistribute everything.
Economic prosperity or public-private partnerships.
This is a really dangerous one because, of course, the companies that get into bed with the government under PPP, they get the tax breaks.
Then we have, let me see, yeah, it was the Earth Summit Strategy to Save Our Planets is when Bill Clinton signed this, I guess.
But it kind of goes way back.
The whole thing is part of a scheme for global governance.
Exactly.
Now let me read to you a quote from President Bill Clinton's advisor to the President's Council on Sustainable Development.
Quote, Participating in a United Nations advocated planning process would very likely bring out many of the conspiracy fixated groups and individuals in our society.
This segment of our society who fear one world government and a UN invasion of the United States through which our individual freedom would be stripped away would actively work.
I like the way they put it.
These people who fear what we're about to do are crazy!
Added emphasis is mine.
Stripped away would actively work to defeat any elected official who joined the conspiracy by undertaking Agenda 21.
So we call our process something else, such as comprehensive planning, growth management, or smart growth.
So this is the stuff you've got to watch out.
Where did you read that?
That's a statement.
I have a quote here.
J. Gary Lawrence, advisor to President Clinton's Council on Sustainable Development.
So he said that we have to bullshit the public?
Yeah, that's exactly what he said.
No, we have to change the words.
So what are the words you want to look for?
So the keywords you want to look for are sustainable development, Yeah, that one we got.
Social equity, social injustice.
I'm talking about the list that he gave.
Comprehensive planning, growth management, or smart growth.
That's a nice list, isn't it?
Growth management.
I'm writing these down.
Smart growth.
I like that.
That's a good one.
It's like a smart grid.
Yeah, we can't be just growing.
We're going to have to go smart growth.
So these are all essentially...
These are keywords that are used to...
Befuddle the public at large, but also to clue in like the number 33.
Exactly.
The insider.
So when you hear smart growth and you're on the inside of this scam...
Then you know.
You wink, wink, wink.
Okay, I'm on board.
Time to buy stocks in whatever company is involved in the smart...
Well, I guess smart grid.
It's all part of that.
Smart grid must be part of it.
Mm-hmm.
So...
So this is another move in the Agenda 21, which we just completely missed.
And of course, I don't think I saw it mentioned anywhere in the news, John.
Did you catch any of it?
I got the New York Times right here.
Yeah, why don't you take a look?
No, not in here.
No, not in there.
Jeez.
Crazy.
Crazy how that happens.
Smartgrowth.org.
Smart Growth Online.
Supporting the development of...
Vibrant, healthy communities.
I think you can go to this website and probably key into a lot of the action.
Wait a minute.
Isn't there a smartgrowth.gov?
Well, there might be.
Let me see.
Smart...
No?
No!
Well, we can't register it anymore, unfortunately.
No, there's no more.gov throwaways.
Smartgrowth.org.
This is pretty good.
Speakers, Siri, they've got a bunch of public speakers.
They have all the names of the people.
Nice.
The DOT announces $775 million in grants.
Funded by the...
EPA announces Greening America's Capitals Program.
Greening America's Capitals.
This website is a project of NCAT funded by the U.S. EPA. Oh, EPA? There you go.
That creepy woman?
Yeah.
That's Jackson, who's in...
Lisa Jackson.
Is she on the list of people?
Yes, yes!
She's on the list of people.
I just mentioned her name.
And here's one of them, this idiot, our Washington state governor, who is a complete sellout moron, this Gregoire.
Don't hold back.
Says Chris Gregoire.
She's a woman.
Oh, okay.
Washington State needs to create and maintain vibrant communities if you want to continue to attract a strong workforce and growing businesses.
I'm proud of the remarkable work that's going on across our state to balance economic growth with sustainable development.
Oh, there it is.
You've got to look out for these sustainable words.
Ta-da!
So she's obviously part of the scam.
So I've got a nice little primer on Agenda 21.
We haven't talked about this enough because it's been creeping in slowly and all of a sudden you're like, oh my goodness.
Network partner.
On page two, there's a network partners.
They've got all kinds.
American Farmland Trust, American Institute of Architects Center, Center for Communities by Design.
Oh, not communities.
Hey, they're against single-family homes.
Live in an apartment block, slave.
Right, which maybe, by the way, if you think about it, it may be the reason that the housing prices have been so forcefully dumped into the toilet to get people, you know, and you hear a lot of them, the meme is out there, oh, I'd rather live in an apartment, oh, it's better to live in an apartment.
Yeah.
You know, which is, you know, a Soviet-style living lifestyle where you're living in an apartment and, yeah, okay, so your neighbor's nuts next door and just pounds on the wall all night.
No big deal.
I mean, you know, this is better.
It's more sustainable.
It's sustainable.
Or does a podcast.
You should report that, bastard.
He's doing a podcast all night.
He gets up at 5.30 to do some stupid podcast.
I'm reporting him.
Hey, this is not good.
If you see something, say something.
Oh yeah, this is nasty.
Agenda 21 is, and I've heard people talk, it's almost like the Codex Alimentarius.
It's one of these things that just seeps in from all different directions, but there's so much money.
And now the President has actually put out an executive order funding this in the United States.
Funding it and giving the money to non-governmental organizations.
We should have one.
Somebody, you've got to get to this page, too.
There's all these links to all these operations.
Here's one.
Rails to Trails Conservancy.
Rails to Trails, everybody.
Rails to Trails.
So you get on a train, you find a trail, you build a trail.
And walk.
You get on a trail, a rail, and you get to the trail, and you drive around on your bike.
Yay!
This is awesome.
I can't wait to get me some.
Green petition delivered to Congress Trail of the Month.
Cutting 36 miles through the former coal country of western Pennsylvania, the Ghost Town Trail.
Which is, you know, so, oh, this is just amazing.
Yeah, I knew I'd get you started on that.
No, this is not...
You shouldn't have brought this up so early in the show.
I'm going to be lingering on these websites.
I tried to bring up the things in the show early on, which work has been done, and it's not clip-based.
It's research-based.
SmartAmerica.org.
I'm telling you, these are all...
Smart Growth America, making neighborhoods great together.
How about SmartGirthGrowthAmerica.org?
And maybe we could get some money.
Hey, we need more girth growth and it has to be smart and sustainable.
Sustainableerections.org Here's a guy who's going to be on the news, Jeff Anderson, spelled G-E-O-F-F. Hey, hey, hey, hey, that's Sir Jeff is also spelled that way.
I think it's a great name.
Yes, that's what I thought.
Jeff Anderson, president and CEO of Smart Growth America, topped the list this week of the most influential leaders in sustainable community planning and development.
Yeah.
The power of ten.
He's standing and giving a speech in the back of the speech.
There's a big sign we have to look out for.
It says the power of ten.
Oh, wait a minute.
Is this something new?
Is this a new meme?
This is a new something?
I'm thinking it is.
Hmm.
The power of ten.
That's kind of weird.
Yeah, it sounds like a bad thing.
So, um...
Jeff Smith.
It's the Jeff Smith.
So I've been practicing.
I've been practicing because this Rick Perry guy, you know, the televangelist from Texas...
So apparently, this is kind of weird.
This guy has been lurking in the wings.
He pledged when he became...
Is he governor, I think, of Texas?
Yeah, governor of Texas, which is a job that's mostly just a bullcrap job.
There's no real governor.
It's not like they really run anything.
So...
He had pledged he would not run for president.
And then he went back on his pledge.
I think there was some timing in there.
And I got a feeling this guy has been set up and he's shilly.
But I've been practicing his voice.
And so this guy is amazing.
I love it because instead of, hello everybody, he says, howdy.
Howdy!
I'm Rick Perry.
I want to thank all the bloggers.
Because he got an award like some...
Listen to this guy.
Alternative Media.
He's talking to us, John.
He has a message for us.
He said tweet...
He says he...
Nah, nah, nah, don't blow my punchline!
Howdy, this is Rick Perry.
And I want to thank Eric Telford and Americans for Prosperity for this award.
Award.
I also want to thank the blogging community.
I also want to thank the blogging community.
I'm practicing.
For your spirited defense of the values that made our nation great.
It's a spirited defense, John.
Spirited.
Frutile, but spirited.
And your efforts to...
What?
Spirited defense that makes something great.
What?
What's he talking about?
Hold elected officials accountable.
Accountable.
Whether you consider yourself a blogger or a new media activist, you're part of a powerful force that is restoring balance to the public discourse.
A powerful force.
And then, of course, he delivers the line which will be the jingle for the next couple of weeks as he shills his campaign finance text number.
Putting America back on track to true greatness.
All right, everybody.
Until then, if you've had enough, take out your phone and text FEDUP to 95613.
And you can always follow me on Twitter.
You can always follow me on Twitter.
And you can always follow me on Twitter.
And you can always follow me on Twitter.
Yeah, the guy's a genius.
He's right on top.
Ladies and gentlemen, I present you the next president of the United States of America!
And you can always follow me on Twitter.
That's right.
You can always follow me on Twitter.
But don't you worry.
I'm an idiot.
I'm no idiot.
If you consider yourself a blogger, you can always follow me on Twitter.
That Anthony Weiner was doing it on Twitter.
It was not a good thing.
So I'm looking at an article that discussed Weiner and said that he can quit, but he can keep his pension at like a million and a half dollars.
Yeah, and like five million bucks of campaign finance, right?
Why does he get to keep the campaign financed?
Now, if that's true, think about this.
When I read that, a couple of lights went on.
I got an idea.
Why?
Is this the reason?
Because we do have this theory that Obama's not going to run for the second term under some circumstance.
Did he start his campaign early so he could collect as much money as he can possibly get and then walk with it?
Um...
It's a possibility.
The whole thing is...
I'm a little befuddled by it, to say the least.
I don't understand exactly how it works.
Well, that's what I'd like to find out.
Somebody out there might know, because I don't know how it works either.
Because I thought the campaign financing, there was all these, you know, the election committee and all these other operations to keep the fraud from creeping in.
But it seems to me if you can run for office and collect a crap load of money and then say, you know, I don't think I'm going to run and walk with the money, which is what it sounds like Wiener's just done.
Why can't the President do the same thing?
Because he's aiming for a billion.
Well, more importantly, why can't we do the same thing?
Why don't you just do it and then tell me how the bookkeeping goes for you.
Just let you know how that goes?
Yeah, why don't you do that and then we'll keep tabs on it.
I got an email just related to Wienergate and then we should get to thanking some people who supported the show this week.
This is from our producer, Junk.
Junk.
Now, Junk is a member of the...
He works with EOD personnel.
That's the explosive demolition people.
And he has an interesting story.
He says, I had a conversation.
The entire conversation was unprovoked with one of these retired EOD guys.
And he said, I didn't start anything, I didn't ask, I just listened to what he had to say, but at the end of the story he said, I was laughing like a maniac.
So his co-worker had done a service during the Clinton administration, because these guys also do like Secret Service, and these are the real guys who do stuff.
They go dismantle bombs, so they're like Navy SEAL stuff.
He mentioned that Lucifer Hillary Clinton was absolutely horrible to all of her Secret Service details.
This is a known rumor.
A known fact.
And that Bill was extremely friendly, but that's only because Bill just wanted everyone to like him regardless.
It wasn't genuine.
He also explained it was rather common knowledge amongst the Secret Service personnel that it didn't matter how much Bill philandered around because Hillary had several women of her own on the side and really didn't care what Bill did.
Now the most interesting piece, he says, is when he began describing the main focus of Lucifer's interest, which was, quote, a pretty young Arabian thing who was her assistant.
And he described Huma Abedin to a T, had the age right and everything.
Now this guy, he didn't make any connection between Anthony Weiner and Huma Abedin, but he was just talking to this guy about Lucifer Hillary Clinton's girlfriend, who she referred to as the pretty young Arabian thing.
This kind of adds a little more credence to...
Yeah.
How come what?
This puts us right in the...
I mean, I think it's all completely right on the money.
But it puts us in the nutball category, unfortunately.
It's not unfortunate because if...
No, it's fortunate actually, right?
Yeah.
We don't need to be...
Is your name Adam Curry?
Oops, sorry.
Hot Pockets!
And it's so sad if only she would just say, hey look, I'm gay.
So what?
This is my girlfriend.
It would be okay.
It would be okay.
I got no problem with you.
But now, you know, this is sad.
Meanwhile, wiener's a beard.
Wiener's a beard.
On the next Extra, wiener's a beard.
Catch it here with your special correspondent, John C. Dvorak.
John, how are you doing?
Hello, Adam.
Thank you, Wolf.
I'm just going to end everything with, back to you, Wolf.
So let's thank our executive producers for today's show.
Okay, Wolf.
Ow!
We've got five executive producers.
Holy cow.
Beginning with Chris Ruddy, New York.
Request Carmen to get his two new puppies to quickly learn to quiet down and stop peeing inside.
You've got karma.
I think, you know...
Hey, read a book on dogs, because you've got to be mean with these dogs when they're puppies.
But besides that, karma is for, like, getting a job.
Yeah, not for dogs to stop peeing.
It's a waste of karma.
Yeah, it's a karma waste.
It's no good.
Uh...
And Chris will be a knight with his next donation, by the way.
We have to make sure that changes the note in the mail.
Oh, really?
Oh, okay.
Francine Hardaway, who will be a knight today, Phoenix, Arizona.
She will be a dame.
A dame.
Well, 366.
I was making my dog...
Another dog story.
What's up with that?
I was making my dog's dinner and they were wildly barking, so I said to them, Shut up, slaves!
And?
I read this as a signal that I had to finish my knighthood contribution.
I'll take a little karma, although mine is pretty good.
Okay, well, we'll give that to you.
That's great.
You've got karma.
That means, I think what's happening is people are seeing these knight and dame rings, and they're like, you know, I only have a little ways to go to finish off my knighthood.
They want it.
She wants a dedouching also.
Give her a dedouching.
Absolutely.
Dedouching.
You've been de-douched.
Sorry, I could have done a double shot, but she gets a split douche karma.
John Schumann, she says that if you do that, maybe Weiner will talk to me again.
I'm not sure what she's referring to.
John Schumann, Madison, Wisconsin, 33333.
Did you guys get the honorary degree from J Schools?
Me, a night shucks, ring size 12.5.
No, we don't get honorary degree offers from J Schools.
Joshua Dilsiver, or Dilsaver.
Dilsaver.
One of the two.
Dilsaver.
Springs, yeah.
Springfield Moe, 33333.
Please play the Gitmo Nation National Anthem so I may be happy and distracted.
Slave will do that later.
Rather than calling them out as douchebags, may I get some karma for...
Oh, this is interesting.
He wants karma for Shelt, Dustin, and Nick so they'll donate.
So we have to do a douchebag karma.
Well, he thinks that the theory might be wrong and then we should just give him karma and maybe they'll donate.
Oh, okay.
Well, let's try it.
Let's see if it works.
You've got karma.
I like that theory.
It's on the positive tip.
The problem with the theory is the douchebag thing has worked quite well.
Well, it could be a new variant.
We don't know.
We're not in charge of the karma.
And another 33333 is from Steve Negrotti in Thornton, Colorado.
Also, Timothy Cavanaugh, Sir Timothy at Lawton, Michigan, 23223.
Hey, John and Adam, my night ring arrived this week, and it is so amazing that I had to donate.
I will be listening to this episode on my way to Chicago.
I was hoping you could call out Charlie McKinney, who will be sitting right next to me as a douchebag.
Douchebag!
Wait a minute, that was a broken douche.
Oh, let me make sure.
Hey, Charlie McKinney!
Douchebag!
You got a double.
Double douche.
Also, could I get a little karma for good weather and a White Sox victory on Friday?
No, we don't control sports, but we'll try.
You've got karma.
The show's the bomb.
And finally, Gary Kostelnik in Mission Viejo, California, who...
It came in at $201, and we want to thank all these executive and associate executive producers.
They're the ones who made this show possible, along with the other donors who we'll talk about later in the show, and hopefully we'll continue on at this pace for the rest of the summer.
Oh, that would be so nice, in particular because Ms.
Mickey and I, of course, are going on our trip, the Hot Pockets 2008 tour across America.
Hi!
We start July 15th as we'll be flying off.
Tickets are booked to Virginia to visit Baroness Maggie Vincent of Virginia.
This is kind of cool because we got another listener picking us up at the airport.
We have to fly to Dulles because it's not really like a direct flight to Virginia.
I'm not going to mention him.
But he says, oh yeah, no problem.
I'll be picking up.
It's about an hour's drive from the Pentagon to your place.
To the airport.
I'm like, okay.
Do you think maybe he slipped on the script or something?
From the Pentagon.
I'm like, okay.
Somebody from our office picked his jokers up.
Hey, could somebody from the Secret Service do this run?
You could take the van.
Take the black van.
You guys can get in the back, but you have to be cuffed.
Oh my goodness.
Anyway, so we're very excited about that.
You can follow everything at hotpocket2008.com.
And for those of you who don't understand, 2008 is, of course, because our president signed the guest book in the Westminster Abbey as Barack Obama 2008, even though it was clearly 2011.
So we, too, are being reactivated, and we're just trying to play it hip like all the cool presidents do.
Quick PR mentions that we have.
Jeff says, I wanted to get you some Mormon-based domain names at forwardtonoagendashow.com.
So I got you.
Askanxmormon.com.
And he's going to work on a side project, so I guess he's going to forward that and then he's going to create something.
We'll keep an eye on that.
This just discussed, we now are the proud recipients of forwarding traffic from journalismlicense.com.
Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying much, but we might be able to hand those out, John.
I like it.
I mean, did you see the list of $33.33 for the podcast licenses?
Yeah, yeah, I think we can do a journalism license.
It takes me as long to create, and by the way, you get your own site.
You get like firstname, lastname.podcastlicense.com.
So it's like a real thing.
You know, you can say, oh yeah, oh yeah, you got a problem with that?
Check out my podcast license.
Bitch.
We can consider a journalismlicense.com.
Nice forward we received.
Monscampto.com.
Nice.
Like that one.
Along with NewSquirrelOrder.com.
Ooh, I like that one.
That one I like.
The New Squirrel Order!
Squirrel!
And DonateBitcoinsTo.me.
Yeah, that'll go far.
DonateBitcoins.me.
So now I guess for $180,000 you can buy your own top level domain.
Yeah.
Is it $180,000?
Is that what it costs?
Yeah.
What a scam.
Yeah.
That's a real scam.
But it would be cool to have that.
Yeah.
No, no, wait.
It would be cooler to have $180,000, honestly.
Let's just move on.
BananasDoom.com.
I'm not quite sure what the point is of that.
We have InternetLicense.me, which actually I kind of like.
It doesn't sound as official, but it's kind of like a request.
IsTheGovernmentCorrupt.com.
There you go.
That's forwarding to noagendashow.com as well as crackpotandbuzzkill.com.
I thought we already had that one.
How did that one get by us?
I had no idea.
Did I just miss it or something?
Are you kidding me?
.com?
Maybe it was just added.
We have this list and we've got a producer, Simon, who's adding all these domain names to domains.nashownotes.com.
So maybe it might have been a cross in traffic.
Here's one that's possible.
We could probably sell this to the Germans for Get My Nation sauerkraut.
Remember that?
They're starting to hand out internet passes.
To the little slavelets there in school?
Internetmediapass.com, which might be something...
It's like a hall pass.
Yeah.
In the morning, Adam says, Lee, I want to tell you a story that just happened to my 75-year-old grandmother.
Just came back from visiting the U.S. I had to ask, what was it like going through the airports and the TSA? Well, she wasn't too impressed with the body scanner, but the icing on the cake was with the TSA agent advising her she needs a better supporting bra and how the straps need adjusting.
What?
Yep.
This is what the TSA told his 75-year-old grandmother.
Hey, Granny.
Your bra.
Your boobs are hanging down.
Get us some better support.
You're making me want to throw up.
So he created AmericaOrBust.com as a forward in honor of his grandmother, which I think is beautiful.
Fantastic.
And those are our PR mentions for this episode.
And of course, we want to really thank our...
Executive Producers Chris Ruddy, Francine Hardaway, John Schumann, Joshua Dilsiver, or Dilsiver, I think it's Dilsiver, Steve Nograti, and Associate Executive Producers Sir Timothy Cavanaugh and Gary Kostalnik.
Thank you so much for supporting this program.
We cannot, will not, and do not play commercials.
We have no commercial interests, and the Chevy Volt sucks ass.
So, you can do this and go out and propagate the formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Order!
Order!
Stand with me, everybody.
Martin Proud!
Shut up, slaves!
Stop peeing in the kitchen!
Talking to the dog?
Yeah, trying to help Francine out there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I got a couple interesting things.
Sometimes when you do clips, you end up with...
When you listen to the clip, you discover something.
Can I ask you a question before you do this?
What happens if you go through TSA and you don't have a bra on?
If you're a woman?
Yeah.
Well, John, since you go...
Try it, John.
Try going through the checkpoint without a bra and tell me how it works out for you.
So what happens is the following.
Everybody to the screening.
To the screening terminal.
Everybody to the screening terminal.
We have an opt-out.
Opt-out.
Opt-out.
Come on, everybody.
Let's go.
Secondary screening for this person.
Tertiary screening.
I'm next.
I'm next.
Yeah, you got a forced screening just to make absolutely sure.
I don't know.
What do you think?
I don't know.
I think we just described it.
I'll ask Mickey to do it.
Mickey will do it.
She'll do it.
Why not?
She'll take one for the team.
So anyway, back to my thing.
You must do this.
You make a clip and then you listen to it and you say, oh my god, I didn't pick up on that little nuance.
Oh yeah, it happens all the time.
Because for one thing, when you're seeing something, it's one thing, but when you're listening, just listening, a different part of your brain is at work.
So I got this clip, and I clipped it because the clip is the incredible revelation.
This is a Jimmy Fallon show.
I took the clip because I thought it was funny that the actress, Cameron Diaz, promoted the use of marijuana.
I thought it was amusing.
And she did in a funny, offhanded way.
But in the process of her coming out and saying marijuana is great, Fallon actually says, hey, this is not in the script.
This is not what we're supposed to be talking about.
Really?
But he only gets caught.
It's a very short thing.
You'll hear it in here.
And then at the end, after she says, no, no, it was the character in the movie who said that...
And then he says, good save.
In other words, he made it so the overlords, you know, he has the memo that will be flying.
This is not what was discussed.
We should not be discussing.
Well, let's talk about this in the middle.
Listen to the clip first.
Oh, yeah, definitely.
I make her inhale.
I'm like, hold it in.
Hold it in.
You're awful.
But it's very, very fun.
Weed is awesome.
Weed is awesome.
Thank you very much.
That was in what my character says.
That's not what I said.
Yes, very nice.
That's a line my character says in the movie.
Very nice.
Nice save there.
Thank you.
Yeah.
See, the way this works on these talk shows is you go in two or three days before, and you sit down and you do the pre-interview with a segment producer.
And the segment producer is going to push you towards what they want out of you to start with.
Now, with Cameron Diaz, it's a little bit different because she's Cameron Diaz, and, you know, it's Cameron Diaz.
But still, she's being told what the segment's going to be about.
She has the PR person from the movie there with her, who, of course, has her agenda.
And the whole thing is they want to make sure that there's not too much weed reference because that can't be, you know, this is about a bad teacher.
It shouldn't just be about weed, weed, weed, weed, weed, weed, weed, weed, weed.
And of course, Cameron's a little loose cannon.
And this is why Jimmy Kimmel is freaked out, because he has a list of exactly...
Jimmy Fallon.
What did I say?
Jimmy Kimmel.
Oh, Fallon.
Kimmel, Fallon, same difference.
He has a script, and he has a rundown of everything that is pre-produced, and all he has to do is kick off the first question, and he already knows what the answer's going to be.
And they always allow for a funny story.
So I don't know if she had her own little personal funny story, but it's all rehearsed right down to the timing of it.
And that's why it sucks.
It totally sucks.
But the guy says, wait a minute, this isn't in the script.
This isn't what we're supposed to be talking about.
I mean, she did kind of step on that line, but you could hear it clearly.
And then he...
I mean, it was just so...
It just was like, well, bro, why don't we watch this crap?
Yeah.
There was another drug thing that was going on.
And, of course, I had the NoAgendaNewsNetwork.com, which I think I signed up another 50 producers to this thing.
This is great.
We're on fire now.
There's always something new going on there.
So I see the story crop up all around Gitmo Nation, Europe, United States of Europe, about bad coke.
I see it in Holland, in the lowlands.
I think I saw it in, maybe it was Norway.
I can hear you typing, so you're Googling around.
So there's bad coke, bad coke, bad coke.
And I'm like, okay, what's going on?
Then all of a sudden, oh, bad coke in America!
And it's not just bad, it's greatly bad.
Sharers, if cocaine use isn't risky enough, now there is this new danger associated with the drug.
It can cause your flesh to rot.
That is right.
Doctors here at UCLA, or I should say Harbor UCLA Medical Center, we're seeing an alarming number of patients with a mysterious skin condition.
But now that condition, that mystery, is solved.
Michelle Pfeiffer's character in the movie Scarface arguably made snorting cocaine look glamorous and reinforced stereotypes that coke is the drug of choice of the rich and sometimes famous.
Al Pacino's crime kingpin did plenty of blow as well.
Both probably wouldn't get close to this stuff.
Now pay attention to all.
This is very relevant to the piece.
You don't think it is, but it is.
However, if they knew about an alarming trend among users today...
Rotting black flesh on the nose, ears, neck, all over the body in some cases.
The effects look like frostbite or gangrene.
But a dermatologist at Harbor UCLA Medical Center in Torrance, along with researchers in San Francisco and New York, found the culprit.
Dr.
Noah Kraft co-authored a case study.
Describing a series of patients that had taken contaminated cocaine, either by snorting it or smoking it, and then a horrible, severe skin reaction that developed from the contaminant in the cocaine.
That contaminant, Kraft says, is called levamisole, a drug used to deworm livestock.
Well, it's unclear why exactly it's being cut into the cocaine, but there are some older papers in the literature describing that it does stimulate neurons the same way that cocaine does.
So that is the relevant bit.
Here's what's going on.
The government, the CIA in particular, are very worried because kids more and more are turning to chemicals that they're cooking up like bath salts and now apparently this deworming stuff which can get you high.
They're worried because they're weaseling in on their business.
This is the government's business to sell you the cocaine.
And they don't want you taking the bad stuff, so that's why they bring in the, hey, you've got to get the pure stuff, you've got to get the Al Pacino stuff, you've got to get the Sharon Stone stuff, you've got to get the good stuff.
You've got to be careful, kids.
This is not about look out for bad coke.
This is like, make sure you get ours.
This is PR. And apparently this is all over the world now.
This deworming stuff.
It's weird.
A couple of things.
I don't see anything in the movie Scarface glamorized the use of cocaine.
Are you kidding me?
Yeah.
No.
The guy's got a big pile.
His face falls in it.
He becomes completely insane.
The woman is strung out.
You don't know nothing.
Of course Scarface is like, awesome.
Say hello to my little friend.
Everyone forgets that he gets blown away at the end.
That's not the point.
It totally glamorized code.
I don't think so.
I watched that movie just recently.
I think it's hilarious.
You're driving a Chevy Volt.
You are not the epitome of hip.
By the way, I think our...
Yeah, okay.
It's your own fault, brother.
It's your own fault.
Yeah, brother.
So, the...
People who do our entertainment site, they should put Scarface on the list of recommended movies, because it's actually one of the great American classics.
It's a fantastic movie.
But I'm not seeing the glamour meme in that movie.
Well, one thing's for sure, it was so pure that he could stuff his whole face in it and his ear didn't fall off.
Yeah, well, that's for sure.
Have you seen the pictures that they're showing?
Yeah.
It's like really bad.
It doesn't make any sense to me.
I don't know.
I mean, the deworming stuff makes your nose fall off?
Doesn't make...
Well, why?
The picture I'm looking at is an ear rotting away.
Yeah, it's a disgusting picture.
What is the point?
I mean, how does that work?
I don't know.
I'd like to see the chemistry of this.
This whole thing seems slightly bogus to me.
I'm not a cocaine expert.
I've never done it in my life.
Ever.
Ever.
Well, that's weird because it's been so glamorized by the movie Scarface that you'd think you'd be lured into it.
No, but I'm not lured into it.
I'm not an idiot.
That's because it wasn't glamorous in the movie.
Okay.
I think you're right.
You may be right or wrong on this, but whatever the case is, I would think my argument, using the same thesis that we run with on this show, is that they're just trying to get people off coke because I don't think they have that much.
I don't think our government has the kind of control that they have over the heroin supply.
And they would like to just get people over the heroin.
Well, that's also possible.
I'll take that as a possibility.
I'll take that.
So back to the...
Oh, here.
Play Boots on the Ground.
You've got to give me a second.
I mean, you know, it's like Boots on the Ground.
Boots on the Ground.
That's your slogan, isn't it?
Yep.
Where's that from?
It's from Law and Order's Criminal Intent.
We were watching and Mimi says, You've got to get that clip.
You've got to get that clip.
Give it to Adam.
Because Adam will play it.
Squirrel!
Yeah.
Right.
So, yeah, go ahead.
Go on.
No, please, please.
I got one drug ad.
I got a, you know, the Entertainment Tonight thing about the Kardashians.
Oh, jeez.
I have to play because I've got an observation on that.
And I have an unbelievable clip.
And also...
Well, instead of teasing all your clips, let's go to...
And now, back to Real News.
We now go to our entertainment reporter in Hollywood, John C. Dvorak, who, of course, you know, has been reporting on entertainment news for 32 years.
John?
Adam?
So we have the opening of the last Entertainment Tonight show, which is, of course, the dregs, the royalty-oriented, specific types of celebrity show for the elites.
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Inside the Kardashians' biggest blowout as we blow the lid off Kim's summer wedding plan.
Who will design the gown?
Who will be invited?
And how many millions could it all cost?
The ceremony secrets Kim's wedding planner is only telling us.
There will be things that have never happened before.
Ever.
A bachelorette emergency.
This was serious.
Carted off in an ambulance.
The disaster that nearly shut down the show.
Transformers new bombshell.
Rosie Huntington-Whiteley in a bikini.
As we count down to the big Moscow premiere.
Plus, Tom and Julia now and then.
As I surprise the stars with their very first ET interviews.
Oh my lord!
Now, in-depth on the biggest entertainment stories from around the world.
Hello and welcome to Entertainment Tonight.
I'm Mark Stinus.
Hi everybody, I'm Nancy O'Dell.
And we are in front of the big news making headlines today.
We have new clues to Kim Kardashian's iDude.
It is the most anticipated wedding of the summer.
And our Samantha Harris uncovers the ceremony details you won't hear anywhere else from one who knows Kim's wedding planner.
Woo!
Okay, now before we go on with my analysis of this crap...
I have a clip.
It's called The Secret Incredible Kardashian Flavors.
This is the wedding planner.
They're going to bust this out.
This information is so valuable, so unbelievable.
These new flavors that the Kardashians are going to use for their wedding cake.
This is like an exclusive for a lot of people.
I think we're going to play it.
Ready?
Give me an idea of what Kim's flavor would be.
It's vanilla with chocolate.
Oh!
Oh!
Okay, so I have to say a few things before you deconstruct.
I follow this because I know that this is what the unsleepened and the docile watch.
First of all, we're going to see a huge industry.
This is for the wedding industry.
And this is the swan song for Kim Kardashian.
This entire thing is scripted.
This entire show is scripted.
Duh.
No, but people don't realize.
They really don't.
They really don't realize.
And she will get a divorce as well.
I don't doubt the divorce, but this is not the swan song, and I'm going to explain why.
Well, I think it is, and I'll tell you, because people are getting fed up with Kim Kardashian, and it's going to move over now to Khloe.
Kobe is the new cool one.
Well, maybe, maybe.
But Kim is, I think, slightly prettier.
But this is interesting to me.
By the way, what is more banal than vanilla with chocolate as breaking news?
Well, I think everyone went like...
And she says it as though this is a new idea.
Honey, honey, do we have any ice cream?
Because I just heard vanilla and chocolate on the TV, eh?
Idiots.
So I was thinking about this because, you know, I watched this and I go, who cares about this woman or the $3 million?
I mean, I don't...
What is she?
She is...
What is she?
And...
Very wealthy.
I was reading some old newspapers, doing some research on something, and I didn't realize it, but this has been...
This whole meme, this is a fractal, has been done before, probably more times than I even want to guess, but the classic example, I think the model for this whole thing, was when Jolie...
Gabor came to the United States with her daughters, Zsa Zsa, Eva, and Magda in the 1930s and promoted these women as some sort of quasi-celebrities who did nothing, never did anything through their entire career.
And to this day, when Eva Gabor died, it was in the news.
And Zsa Zsa Gabor to this day is still in the news.
And this is...
Some, I have no idea why the public puts up with this crap, but they do, and I expect to see Kim Kardashian and Khloe to be heard from and seen and mentioned for the rest of our crummy lives.
Until their legs fall off like Zsa Zsa Gabor.
It's going to be like that?
Yep.
Oh, maybe.
Maybe Paris Hilton's going down.
She'll be around forever, too.
We're stuck with these people.
No, not really.
I just tune it out.
But Mickey and Christina watch that.
They get together on Kardashian nights.
They do.
They do.
It's like, come on over.
Come on over.
We're going to watch the Kardashians together.
I'm watching the new Ice and Coco.
It's rapper Ice-T and his wife Coco.
These shows are great.
I love them.
I love them.
Mother Jones wrote a good article, John.
And this is quite amazing to me.
Surprise!
Mother Jones, I think, is pretty good, journalistically speaking.
I like what they write.
Surprise!
TSA is searching your car, subway, ferry, bus, and your planes.
Not to mention the trains.
As TSA Administrator John Pistole told Congress last week, TSA conducts 8,000 unannounced security screenings every year.
This is part of the Viper team.
Yeah, this is the one that we talked about about six months ago that took place at one of the train stations as people were getting off the train in, I believe, Georgia.
We're looking for threats to national security.
Squirrel!
And the Viper team's going to be there.
A Viper screening at Des Moines Greyhound Station last week.
Targeted, allegedly, targeted Latinos.
Another TSA Border Patrol Viper screening on a trolley.
Trolley, ladies and gentlemen, in San Diego.
A trolley?
Ding, ding, ding goes the trolley.
Clang, clang, clang goes the bell.
Hot pockets.
So, uh, do you remember this little ditty?
Imagine boarding a train in the center of a city.
No racing to an airport and across a terminal.
No delays.
No sitting on the tarmac.
No lost luggage.
No taking off your shoes.
Don't take it off your shoes.
and Yeah, the Gitmo Nation is really closing in on this.
You know, we've talked about FICO, haven't we?
Is it FICO? Yeah, FICO I think it is.
This is the company that rates your credit.
FICA, yeah.
No, I think it's FICO. No.
It's FICA? Yeah.
Really?
F-I-C-A. What's FICO then?
Federal Insurance Contributions Act.
No, no.
FICA is money they steal from your paycheck.
Your FICO score.
Okay, FICA. The Fair Isaac Corporation.
Public company that provides analytics.
F-I-C-O. FICO. I think it's a misnomer.
People say FICO score, but it's FICO score.
Yeah, you're right.
I'm wrong.
All right.
So this company really determines your life, and they ruin your life.
Oh, I know.
We could do a whole dozen shows on this bull crap.
Well, let me give you a little extra.
So let's just, for people to understand, and this exists in every country as far as I know, it's called something else, and it's a commercial company.
They determine whether you are credit worthy or not.
And of course, I had a severe problem.
I can't even be a cosigner for my daughter's apartment because I have no credit card.
No nothing.
I live on cash within my means.
I have a debit card.
And, you know, so every single time, you know, I had to, like, pay in advance for my daughter's apartment because they said, well, you have no credit.
Well, you have no history, so we can't trust you.
So I'm not in debt, so I'm not trustworthy.
That's correct, sir.
And this is what FICO does.
And they sell this to everybody, to all the credit agencies, etc.
Founded in 1956 as the Fair Isaac and Company by engineer Bill Fair and mathematician Earl Isaac.
First headquartered in San Rafael over here in California.
Selling his first credit scoring system two years after the company's creation.
Sales of similar systems soon followed.
In 1987, FICO went public.
The year also saw the introduction of the general purpose FICO score, which is 1987, when Beacon debuted at Equifax.
Yeah, exactly.
That's when it all began.
Before 1989, when this thing first showed up, Big time and then started taking over the place.
You would go to the bank and they would talk to you and they would know you.
And they'd give you a loan.
Now they just go by these numbers and that allowed them to computerize the banking and loan systems, which created the economic collapse.
I think these people are directly responsible.
By the way, big up to Mechanics Bank, our bank, because I needed to have a credit card just to have credit, just to use it for a couple hundred bucks a month, pay it off, and they kept on declining me, and Stephanie, you know Stephanie from the bank?
No, I don't know.
She's in San Francisco.
No, no, no, no.
She's in the Albany.
Albany office.
Oh, Stephanie.
Okay, yeah.
She went to bat.
And she stood in front of those guys for two weeks.
Said, look, I know these people.
And they finally gave us a limit like $500.
That's all right.
So we're building up credit.
I hate these people!
But you're going to hate them even more when you hear this story.
So they come out and they have a score, right?
Your FICO score.
That's your credit rating.
They are now coming out with a new product, John.
The FICO medication adherence score.
Ooh.
That's right.
The score is on a range of 0 to 500.
If you're over 400, you are probably going to follow instructions.
Under 200, you're a risk for not taking your medication correctly.
Oh, then you have to be quarantined.
Off to the FEMA camp with you.
Abhorrent, I tell you.
It's abhorrent.
This is crazy.
The stuff that's going on now, what did I read the other day?
I think Dr.
Jones, our congressional professor of constitutional law, maybe it was in Washington, where now there's a law.
Let me see if I can find this.
Here it is.
King County.
Yeah, Seattle.
People who hope to beat the summer heat by swimming, floating, or boating on rivers in King County now must wear a life vest or face an $86 fine.
Why?
Because you might drown.
So you have to wear a life vest when you're swimming.
That's idiotic for people who like to swim.
What's next?
You want to wear a helmet when I'm just walking around?
Now you're talking.
You must be on the city streets because people have been hit by cars.
Yeah.
Make you wear a helmet while you're walking around town.
I like that.
Are you using a knife while cooking?
You have to wear these industrial gloves because you might cut yourself.
This is crazy!
Isn't people just going along with it?
This was passed by the county council.
A flotation device ordinance.
This is just more and more government interference with day-to-day living.
And by the way, and it's not party selected, this is the Republicans and the Democrats.
The only people against this sort of thing are the Libertarians, who are now, I don't know if you know this, but every meme that comes out, the Libertarians are in the news, they're talked about more, and more and more they're just described as crackpots, and it makes no sense what they're talking about.
I heard that the other day.
Oh, the Libertarians make no sense.
Well, it's very interesting you bring that up.
Ron Paul.
And by the way, I think I've got to get behind Ron Paul again.
I like Gary Johnson, but the guy's got no heat.
I'm sorry.
Ron Paul is just on fire this year.
So what are we going to do to marginalize Ron Paul?
He goes on the Today Show with Matt Lauer.
Matt Lauer, by the way, who I know, he actually worked at VH1 for a couple of weeks.
This guy is just a disc jockey.
Matt Lauer.
Give me a break.
I was with Matt Lauer in a bar on 9-11 at an airport, believe it or not.
That's a good one.
That's sad, I know.
And we knew each other.
So he has Ron Paul on.
So what, of course, is the mission?
The mission is to do one thing.
You've got to discredit Ron Paul.
And how do we do that?
We call him a kook!
Now, of course, he won't use the word kook, but what do we do if the kooky thing doesn't work?
What do you got to go to next?
Any idea?
We're going to find out.
We are.
Your name comes up an awful lot when I talk politics with friends, and one thing I hear about you...
The whole notion of Matt Lauer talking politics with friends?
Yeah.
Please.
...over and over again is that people say, I like some of his ideas, but I'm nervous about the total package because you're a guy who's called for legalizing all drugs, including cocaine and heroin, legalizing prostitution.
You want to eliminate about half of the federal agencies, including energy, education, health and human services, the Department of Homeland Security.
So how do you convince people that you are not just an interesting fringe candidate?
So that is the fringe candidate.
I like that.
What is the definition of the word fringe?
On the edge.
Yeah.
But, you know, of course, in his context, he means kooky.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like it.
That's a good one.
To not portray it like, as you have just done.
I want to legalize freedom.
What's so bad about that?
What's wrong with legalizing choices about your life and your liberty and your religious values?
What's wrong with, like, legalizing the Constitution?
I can defend everything I do by the Constitution.
So why can you turn that around and say, oh, everything he's doing is nuts and crazy?
No, I didn't say it.
I didn't say that!
I didn't say that!
You kind of did, Matt.
The thing you're doing is nuts.
I did not say that.
I said some people worry about some pieces.
No, that's not what you said.
You said on the fringe.
Of the total package.
Yeah.
Yeah, I know.
But the portraying of this is something weirder, unusual.
And I think a growing number of people are starting to realize what I'm talking about is pretty sound.
It's very American.
It produces prosperity and peace.
And I'm always bewildered.
Why anybody would reject it.
I mean, it is the American system.
We shouldn't be the warmongers.
We shouldn't be the policemen of the world.
We shouldn't be in 130 countries and 900 bases and fighting undeclared wars.
And look at what we're doing in Libya, at least now.
Look at how many people have joined us in this effort in trying to stop another war in Libya.
So I would say we're making great progress and a lot of people are starting to talk about big spending and deficits.
So the direction is certainly in our way.
Okay, so it makes sense, right?
John?
Makes nothing but sense.
I'm not a big fan of this guy's thought process.
Okay, so if it makes so much sense, and you can already hear Matt going, he's trying to interrupt, because he's getting in his ear...
Okay, I got it.
I know what to do next.
Let me just ask you a quick question to end on.
It's more practical.
You are, by my calculation, 75 years old right now.
If you are elected president, you'll take the oath of office at 77.
That would be the oldest president by a long shot.
Is it too old?
You're old!
You can't be president!
You're an old man!
Wow, they played the Aegis card.
Yeah, big time.
Ron Paul, of course, comes back beautifully, so much that Matt Lauer probably is going to get one less spanking at the end of the show.
He's not going to get his little treat, his little reward, because he didn't do it right.
Well, obviously, I don't think so.
And a lot of young people don't think I'm very old.
I think it's the ideas that counts.
It's your general health that counts.
It's your enthusiasm for liberty.
That's what counts.
The nominal age is secondary to the age of the individual who knows how to think and who knows how to believe in something.
Right now, we have a lot of old people around that has endorsed the status quo.
And I am older.
I have more...
More time behind me.
But I endorse very young ideas because the ideas of liberty are very young.
We've only tested them a couple hundred years.
They have been fantastic.
And what I see is us giving this up.
And I think this is why people become enthusiastic.
And they don't want bits and pieces because this is a package.
Economic liberty and personal liberty are one and the same.
And a foreign policy that defends America and not police the world, that's part of the package as well.
Congressman Ron Paul joining us this morning.
It's nice to have you with us, sir.
Congratulations on your victory in the straw poll.
Yeah.
Take that, Matt Lauer.
Hold on, let me douchebag.
Congratulations on your victory in the straw poll.
It's not going to do you any good.
It's going to be more like the Fox Straw poll where they bring out the poll and he got zero.
How does that work?
I guess I have to register as a Republican, God forbid, in order to even get this guy in any position.
Because I'm not allowed to help him become the Republican.
They'll turn the heat up.
This guy hasn't got a prayer.
The powers that be the real overlords aren't going to let this guy even get close to the nomination.
Because he could win the presidency and it would be, you know, it would be a mess for them.
Yeah.
Well, you know, the entire United States of Europe is rioting.
Of course, you're not seeing that on TV because, you know, white people on the streets?
No, no, no.
No, we can't show you that.
That would be no good.
But, yeah, lots of riots.
Did you catch any of it anywhere?
Oh, yeah.
They're throwing Molotov cocktails.
They're going nuts.
Yeah.
Anti-austerity rallies have been held across Europe.
In Spain, thousands marched to protest against high unemployment and their government's handling of the economic crisis.
It was the first major demonstration since the end of the so-called indignant campaign in which Madrid's central square was occupied by activists for several weeks.
We came to this demo to support people who want things to change.
Society is paying for this crisis and that's got to stop.
In France there were also calls for people to stand up and be counted as around 500 marched through the capital.
Pension reforms and public sector cuts have angered many.
That anger apparently spilled over onto the streets with police reportedly detaining over 100 demonstrators.
We're the indignant.
You saw what's happened in the Arab world.
You can see what's happening in Spain, Iceland, Greece, and even in England.
Things aren't going well and we're fed up.
We don't have the impression either that the unions have the solution.
So, you know, it's not big yet.
And I was actually talking to one of our producers from Gitmo Nation, Leprechaun.
And he was like, wow, man, you know, it's like, do you think Greece is bad?
It's like, we kind of lost here.
I'm like, well, why don't you guys go riot?
He said, riot?
He said, we did, and we got our heads beaten in.
He said, I got a pretty face here.
I'm a hip-hopper.
I can't live with a broken face.
And, of course, what's happening?
They rioted and we never heard about it?
No, of course not.
It wasn't even on the news in Europe.
Wow.
Seven months ago is when they were rioting.
No, I mean, Ireland got completely ruined.
But what's happening, and what is interesting is that the people who are now heading to the streets in the United States of Europe, they actually understand what is going on.
So, you know, we're going through another bailout of Greece.
You know, the finance ministers came together.
They had a seven-hour meeting.
Ooh, boy, they had a seven.
Oh, so tired.
It was in the middle of the night.
They worked so hard.
And they actually said, okay, all right, Greece will give you more money, which comes from the other states of the United States of Europe, from the slaves themselves.
We'll give that money to you.
The banks can participate voluntarily, which is funny.
The banks can participate, but they're not going to because this is about bailing out the actual commercial banks.
And here's the co-founder of PIMCO, Faber is his name, and he actually says it.
Mark, you've been following what I'm sure the ECB president Jean-Claude Trichet has been saying.
Is he following down the path of Ben Bernanke?
Well, very similar.
The ECB has talked more hawkish.
Then the Federal Reserve, but basically they're all money printers.
Some are better at it and faster and have more efficient machines.
The others are slower, but basically central bankers, they're going to print and print.
And it would be a mistake to think that the bailout is actually a bailout of Greece.
Greece is a write-off.
You can't have the kind of debts Greece has with olive oil income.
They have no industries to speak of.
They have shipping, but the shipping industry doesn't pay tax in Greece.
So basically, the bailout is actually a bailout of the ECB itself, because they have already a lot of paper of Spain, Portugal, and Greece in their portfolios, and the bailout of the banks in Europe.
Of the French banks, of the German banks, because they hold a lot of And they lent money to Spain and to Portugal and so forth, so they're all in the same boat.
So it's like us, if we have a problem, we just drink more instead of addressing the problem.
Sláinte!
Just drink more!
There you go.
It's bailing out the French and German banks.
End of.
Yeah, well, that's exactly what it is.
I was watching CNBC World and they did almost start to go into the topic.
I have a little short clip, but they never did go into it, but they at least introduced it.
And I think we're going to start hearing this particular question without the answer.
The answer I have is inconsequential.
But I think it's going to start cropping up a lot, which is a discussion of how the EU is going to respond to this.
Are they going to break up?
The horizon, it's either going to be a fiscal union, which it ain't probably, or break up.
Let's just clarify what we're talking about here from both of you, Paz.
I mean, are we talking about a breakup of every individual nation going its own way?
Or are we saying we're going to let a few people go by the wayside, perhaps reset their economy over a sustained period of time, and then perhaps be let back into the fold?
Are we talking about the whole of the Euro demise, or actually just some countries leaving the bloc?
Yes, we're talking about all of that.
But you can't say because it's politicians.
Now, the problem is the politicians that are running the...
I'm sorry.
What's that?
It goes off the track and they never get to the question.
But I think we're going to start hearing that question more and more.
We've been asking the same question, by the way.
It's not going to happen.
They have been doing this since the first International Atomic Energy Association, whatever.
They've been doing this since the 60s.
They've been trying to set this up.
It's all a mechanism within the One World Government program.
So it technically can't happen.
But I think it's going to be fun to watch it not happen.
It's going to be better than the Kardashians, that's for sure.
Unfortunately...
The revelation about the chocolate and vanilla as a combination.
I'm going to try that tonight, by the way.
I hear it's a great combo.
I'd never heard of it.
Would you like bean sprouts with that?
And I do have to just finish up with our own financial...
Let me just say that I think Greece unraveling will have implications to the derivatives market that no one quite knows about yet.
This is why...
Did you notice that the finance ministers couldn't come up with an answer on Monday morning?
And all of a sudden, like five stock exchanges in Europe had technical difficulties and couldn't open.
Yeah, right.
The Euronext.
I have it here.
It was like four or five different exchanges.
Had technical difficulties.
We can't open this morning because, of course, there hadn't been a resolution on the second bailout of Greece, and they didn't want the markets to tank because they know that there's derivatives, all kinds of stuff involved here.
Back home, meanwhile...
I watched 53 minutes.
This program lasts about 53 minutes on C-SPAN of Ben Bernanke.
Yeah, and his question and answer.
That's right.
And there was only one relevant question and only one relevant answer.
Although, is Ben drinking the fluoride?
Did you see?
He's like...
He's mellow.
He's more mellow than usual.
I think he's like...
He's sitting in the back going like, Timmy!
Timmy, pass the weed, man!
I gotta go out there!
I can't believe what I gotta say!
In terms of holding the recovery back, I do see the statement says, in part, factors that are likely to be temporary.
Are there more permanent factors that are producing a worse outlook than three months ago?
Okay, so the outlook is not so good as Ben shook his magic eight ball.
And he's going to explain why he was wrong, and it's even worse than it appears.
Well, as you point out, what we say is that the temporary factors are in part the reason for the slowdown.
In other words, part of the slowdown is temporary and part of it may be longer lasting.
It's temporary, in other words, part of it's temporary and it could be everlasting, kind of like the aspartame chewing gum.
We do believe that growth is going to pick up.
Going into 2012, but at a somewhat slower pace than we had anticipated in April, we don't have a precise read on why this slower pace of growth is persisting.
One way to think about it is that maybe some of the headwinds that have been concerning us, like You know, weakness in the financial sector, problems in the housing sector, balance sheets and deleveraging issues.
Some of these headwinds may be stronger or more persistent than we thought.
Oh, John.
What kind of economic analysis involves headwinds?
He was so stoned.
He must have been.
He's hallucinating.
Headwinds.
Headwinds.
Yeah.
And by the way, it's financial weakness.
What kind of analysis is that?
Housing sector.
Headwinds.
You know, the headwinds were just a little stronger.
This is the meme, by the way.
Headwinds.
Little Timmy's using it everywhere, too.
He has the headwinds.
The headwinds.
Oh, my goodness, everybody.
Headwinds are us.
That's right.
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Merseyside?
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Wait a minute.
He's asking, I think, for karma at the same time.
Well, let me finish reading then.
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Give him a double.
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It was karma and de-douching at the same time.
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He's right.
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Oh, excuse me.
That's what the podcast license will be good for, for listening to podcasts.
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CNN doesn't report accurately.
They say, we make people donate $50.
Not true.
Not true at all.
We've got plenty of $5 a month.
How do we make people do anything?
This is funny because, you know, Glenn Beck is starting up his online web network, and you can't watch it unless you pay $4.95.
And I'm sure it's going to be filled with ads, by the way.
He's going to have all kinds of, buy gold.
Buy gold.
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Heirloom seeds.
Right, and the other one that these guys are doing, which is you buy a bunch of food that's supposed to last for 100 years.
Sustainable food.
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No, freeze drive.
What a scam that is.
What else do they do?
They do that Inflation Society of America.
They used to do a lot of vitamins.
Yeah, they don't do that anymore.
For a while there, even Alex Jones was pushing iodine.
Yeah, he's like, buy iodine.
We got it for sale on the website now.
People out there with iodine poisoning.
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I don't use a...
I use a rock for deodorant.
Oh, brother.
It's a mineral thing.
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You even sound like it.
You know, you could have made that clip a lot shorter.
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By the way, there's a meme floating around.
I don't think it's necessarily something that we need to follow too closely, but it's interesting to me based on the fact when I was a kid, my dad used to always say he was a classic middle-class guy because he was a World War II vet.
The memes of those people were different than the memes of today.
And I remember over and over again being told the same thing about politics, which is...
The Democrats are the war party and the Republicans are the Depression Party.
That was basically it.
And if you look at the World War I, Woodrow Wilson, World War II, Franklin Roosevelt, Vietnam War, Lyndon Johnson, all the rest, you know, and whatever.
And so I always kind of absorb the war party are the Democrats.
And, of course, we're seeing Obama starting a new one here.
And the Republicans are the Depression Party.
The Republicans put us in the Depression.
I think that might apply to George Bush in this 2008 situation.
That was basically it.
But the meme that is being promoted is almost the opposite, and it comes up in this Boxer clip where she's on one of these idiotic talk shows.
Now explain who Barbara Boxer is.
Barbara Boxer, the senator, one of the moron senators from the state of California.
She's an idiot.
She brings out this meme, and I've been hearing it and hearing it.
I'm looking for clips because I got very little this week.
And I just said, oh, there's nothing here.
And I said, oh, there's that meme.
That's a meme.
It's going around.
It's that the Republicans are just worn nutballs.
Senator Boxer, I believe you became an activist in politics, maybe the way a lot of us did because of the war in Vietnam.
And isn't it odd to have a Republican like Huntsman?
To the left of the president on this.
Huntsman's saying that Afghanistan isn't really the front.
It's dealing with the economics of the world, keeping our competitive edge with China, etc.
What does that make you feel like to have a Republican presidential candidate to your, to use an old phrase, to your left?
Well, I think it's just great that all of a sudden the Republicans have decided that they don't love every single war.
Yeah, of course, I've learned that everything is reverse.
Because everything is exactly the opposite of what we're being told.
If someone says something, turn it around and that's probably the truth.
And by the way, I think I grew up thinking this.
Republicans, warmongers, Democrats, loving Republicans.
Yeah.
Well, you're like, you know, about, I don't know, 15, 20 years.
You're the next generation down from me.
And so somewhere along the line, it was flipped.
Well, it's funny because this meme actually came up on the compromised ABC television network with the sellout, Christiana Anampur, who sold out.
I mean, I had big respect for her, and then she sold out to ABC. Because, you know, we needed some credibility.
And George Wills, is it Wills?
George Will?
George Will.
George Will.
He's on this roundtable, and she basically leads into, like, the Republican War, and he slams them.
Foreign policy.
You saw what happened on the stage in New Hampshire.
The Republicans, who the world sort of knows as traditional defense national security hawks, Practically all the candidates there were talking about pulling back from all their overseas commitments.
George, this is a big change.
Whether you're a war lover or not, this is a big change for the party, particularly for presidential candidates.
The United States is engaged in hostilities in Iraq, Afghanistan, the tribal region of Pakistan, Yemen and Libya.
That's five wars.
How many do these people want?
With regard to Libya, did Libya attack us?
No.
Was it about to attack us?
No.
Were we obliged by a treaty to get engaged in a civil war and a tribal society?
No.
Were Americans endangered?
No.
Find me a reason for this.
The reason is the humanitarian reason.
Well, to say that people are isolationists, akin to those who didn't want to resist Hitler and the Empire of Japan because they don't want to prolong the folly of the involvement in Libya, is preposterous.
When Ronald Reagan, much quoted saint of the Republican Party, made a mistake, as he did in Lebanon, he quickly liquidated it.
So there you go, Christiane Anandpour propagating the meme.
I mean, not just a meme, she's like, everyone knows Republicans are war lovers!
Yeah.
And so another meme there is hostilities, which George Will, he pulled out that talking point.
Hostilities.
Yeah, so the media is just filled with, this is, I think, it's, I don't know, it's depressing.
Right.
All you get is this kind of just this white, this wash, this kind of huge wash of crap that comes slapping out against the shore with a bunch of junk in it, you know, floating in there.
It's just, I don't know, I just find that this particular meme, I didn't notice it until I was so hard up for clips.
But there's probably a half dozen memes that we fail to identify because we're just...
You know, watching this garbage constantly and as the memes float in and float out, you don't even know.
Sometimes it's hard.
It's very difficult to catch these things.
Well, so there's something going on that this is a longer clip, about three and a half minutes.
And I'd just like us to listen to it because it's a produced piece.
He's an American-Pakistani.
So born in Pakistan.
I don't know if he holds a Pakistani passport, a U.S. passport, dual passport.
I don't know.
I do know that he is a personal advisor to the president.
The president asked him to come over, and they hang out, they drink beers at the White House, and everyone's fawning over the guy.
This is Farid Zakaria, who does the GPS show.
Did you hear about his latest rant?
What he's now been pushing?
No.
Okay.
So he did a blog post about this, but I think the blog post followed this piece, which aired on CNN on his show, and we just have to...
You're going to go, oh, brother, which you can do, but I'm not going to stop it.
Of course, I do that just all the time.
No, no, no, but you'll go, oh, big brother.
Now, there's this...
Oh, big brother!
Oh, big brother!
There's a setup to his point.
You've just got to listen to the whole thing because I think it's crazy.
And I think there's an agenda here.
What in the world segment?
We all know how Americans revere the Constitution.
So I was struck by the news that tiny little Iceland is actually junking its own Constitution and starting a new.
And using an unusual...
What?
Yeah, yeah, now I heard, you know, it's funny I didn't pick this.
I heard this and I was just an eye roller.
We'll talk about it.
I've played the whole thing.
I'm sorry, I don't want to interrupt anymore.
Some would say innovative mechanism.
The nation decided it needed a new constitution.
And it's soliciting ideas from all of Iceland's 320,000 citizens with the help of Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube.
And this social media method has worked.
Ideas have been flowing in.
Many have asked for guaranteed good health care.
Others want campaign finance systems that make corporate donations illegal.
And some just want the country to make shark finning illegal.
There is a constitutional council.
It incorporates some of these ideas, rejects others, but everything is done in plain sight on the web.
As one member of the constitutional council said, the document is basically being drafted on the internet.
Now, why do they need a new constitution anyway?
Well, after Iceland was crippled in recent years by the economic crisis, they all wanted a fresh start.
And anyway, they felt the document was old and outdated, drafted all the way back in 1944.
Now, you might be tempted to say that Iceland doesn't have any reasons to be proud of its political traditions in the manner that the United States does.
But think again.
Iceland is home to the world's oldest parliament still in existence, the Althing, set up in 930 A.D. The rocky ledge on which they gathered represents the beginnings of representative government in the world.
So Iceland has reasons to cherish its history, and yet it was willing to revise it.
By contrast, any talk of revising or revisiting the American Constitution is of course seen as heresy.
The United States Constitution was, as you know, drafted in a cramped room in Philadelphia in 1787 with shades drawn over the windows.
It was signed by 39 people.
America at the time consisted of 13 states.
Congress had 26 senators and 65 representatives.
The entire population was about 1% of today's number, about 4 million people.
America was an agricultural society with no industry, not even cotton gins.
The flush toilet had just been invented.
These were the circumstances under which this document was written.
And let me be very clear here.
The U.S. Constitution is an extraordinary work, one of the greatest expressions of liberty and law in human history.
One amazing testament to it is the mere fact that it has survived as the law of the land for 222 years.
But our constitution has been revised 27 times.
Some of these revisions being enormous and important, such as the abolition of slavery.
Then there are areas that have evolved.
For example, the power of the judiciary, especially the Supreme Court, is barely mentioned in the document.
This grew as a fact over history.
But there are surely some issues that still need to be debated and fixed.
The Electoral College, for example, is highly undemocratic, allowing for the possibility that someone could get elected as president even if he or she had a smaller share of the total national vote than his opponent.
The structure of the Senate is even more undemocratic, with Wisconsin's 6 million inhabitants getting the same representation in the Senate as California's 36 million people.
That's not exactly one man, one vote.
And we are surely the only modern nation that could be paralyzed, as we were in 2000, over an election dispute because we lack a simple national electoral system.
So we could use the ideas of social media that were actually invented in this country to suggest a set of amendments to modernize the Constitution for the 21st century.
Such a plan is not unheard of in American history.
After all, the delegates in Philadelphia in 1787 initially meant not to create the Constitution as we now know it, but instead to revise the existing document, the Articles of Confederation.
But the delegates saw a disconnect between the document that currently govern them and the needs of the nation, so their solution was to start anew.
I'm just suggesting we talk about a few revisions.
Anyway, what do you think?
Should we do this?
And if we were to revise the U.S. Constitution, what would be the three amendments you would put in?
Write to us and let us know.
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I got one.
Get him out of the air.
Kick him out of the country.
Okay, a couple of things I want to get before you come up with your whole thing.
I heard this, by the way.
And I probably gave it to the old brother right away.
And why I didn't record it and use it in the show...
That's why we're a team, my friend.
Because I screwed up, to be honest about it.
This is actually one great clip.
It's filled with memes.
It's filled with bull crap.
And it's filled with subtle propaganda.
I want people to start listening for this sort of thing.
This particular comment that he made right in the middle of the thing harkens back to, if you remember, when they pretty much screwed up the political system because they talked about the smoke-filled rooms.
Guys in the Democrat Party.
With the curtains drawn.
It was secret.
The gates were drawn on the windows as these guys were obviously sneaking around.
And we had no flush toilets.
There's no flush toilets.
There's also no lights.
I mean, you had some gas lamps, but why would they close the windows?
It makes no sense.
You want light in the room, don't you?
So that's bullcrap he's throwing in there to give you the impression that some sneaky thing was taking place when it's just an out-and-out blatant lie.
So let's base this whole thesis of his on the fact that he is lying to us.
Yes, and I'm glad that I brought you, Professor of American History, into the conversation.
He is lying to us.
And to set it up by saying, Iceland, the smartest people where democracy started in Iceland, they revised their constitution in 1946.
Well, how'd that work out for you?
Exactly, 1944 was the year.
So yeah, that didn't work out.
They should have stuck with the old original.
How'd that work for you, guys?
That's kind of actually, that's the interesting little gotcha in his argument, which is that these guys have been...
But meanwhile, if you start looking at the stuff the Icelanders are trying to...
You start to see this kind of Agenda 21 crack.
Uh-huh, that's it.
read a couple of little points that they're putting in the proposed constitution defines access to clean and unspoiled nature as human rights.
Yeah.
What does that got to do with with the system of laws?
Human rights to access clean and unspoiled nature.
We'll put that in the Constitution.
It strengthens the proposition of those who wish to seek justice as a result of environmental damage.
Let me ask you a couple other questions about this piece.
He keeps talking about revisions and revising.
I believe an amendment is not the same as a revision.
No, it's not.
Really?
Yeah, well, he keeps saying it was, you know...
And revisions where you'd go in there and you would tweak the original document.
That would be a revision.
An amendment is something you add to it.
But he keeps saying revise, revise.
That may affect your original document, but it's not the same as a revision.
Poor use of a word.
No, but he used it so often, I believe, it is intentional.
And by the way, during the Bush-Gore fiasco election, where Bush won, by the way, and would have won, now no one wants to talk about the fact that they've really gone over those Florida votes, but that's beside the point.
The nation, hello, was not paralyzed.
Were you paralyzed by that?
I couldn't move.
I couldn't move, John.
I couldn't move.
So that's basically a crock of crap.
So this guy really should be ashamed of himself.
And by the way, just so everyone gets this straight, Pat Buchanan, who was on a bunch of these talk shows and ran for president, is one of these guys.
He wants a new constitutional convention too.
So this is on the right and the left.
And the thing that irked me, and I have to point this out to lots of people, particularly in the great state of California, we do not live in a democracy here.
This is not a democracy, it is a republic.
This blew me away that he's saying, well, it's not fair.
It's not fair.
The way it was set up...
John, please explain to our listeners how the...
It was set up specifically not to be a pure democracy because with a democracy you have the majority that just basically pounds the minority.
You have to have a system that has checks and balances to prevent a majority.
In other words, everybody in Berkeley, for example, says that you have to wear your underwear on the outside, and they vote at 51% to 49%, and then they make it a law that everyone has to wear their underwear on the outside, and that's that.
Too bad if you don't like it.
That's the way democracy works, and that's why they're no good.
That's why we're a republic, to prevent that sort of abuse.
Democracies create abusive situations.
There's plenty of instances in the Middle East So explain to me how our system prevents me from wearing my underwear on the outside.
No, seriously.
That's a good example.
I can understand this.
I'm with you.
Well, because there'd be a bunch of checks and balance mechanisms.
There'd be court cases.
It would be unconstitutional to force you to do this.
You would go through a judicial system, which is one of the checks.
He's saying something different, though.
What he's saying is that Wisconsin, by the way, big up to Wisconsin.
I mean, why call them out?
Has equal power in the Senate as California and he says that's not fair.
Why is that and why is it the right way to do it instead of what he is propagating?
Well, because that was the idea.
You wanted to have two bodies within Congress that would debate each other.
And it was always believed that the problem with the straight-up, like the same number of representatives in the Senate as there were in Congress would mean that the states with the big populations, like California or New York, would badger and push around the little states.
And they'd tell them to screw themselves because they have all the votes and you guys have got nothing, so get lost.
And they would just essentially...
They would force their opinions and their ideas on the little guys, and the system was set up so the states had some rights.
That's what states' rights was all about to begin.
That's why we have states with the original 13 colonies.
They didn't want the one big colony, New York, making everything just taken over the place.
So how many senators can each state have?
They can have two.
How many congressmen can each state have?
The congressman varies depending on the population.
Oh, he didn't mention that, did he?
No, he didn't mention the Congress at all.
This guy should be ashamed of himself.
I want to know if he's an American citizen.
I want to see his green card.
I'm calling you green card, Farrakh, Fareed.
Well, anyway, these kinds of things, which are on the mainstream media constantly, and this sort of thing, and it sounds so reasonable, but it's laced with sickening propaganda and memes and very subtle little things like the shades drawn on the windows, you know, kind of thing.
It's really disgusting to hear that, which is probably why I didn't record it, because I was so annoyed.
Angry, yeah.
No, I got very annoyed when I saw it too.
I was like, oh my goodness, really?
This guy deserves to be...
I mean, this is typical CNN. The fact that this sort of thing goes on the air.
It's anti-American.
It's anti-Republic.
It's anti-everything.
It's basically, you know...
It's anti-history.
It's anti-truth and history and facts.
It's anti-truth.
It's a lie.
Anyway, that's...
You win.
You win.
You got me worked up.
John C. DeVore acts Pet peeve of the day It's alright It's actually also I don't like my echo there Yours is in a different key.
Yeah, in a different room.
It's in the basement.
No, but it really bothered me because people, you know, this has been going on for a long time and I see people who are younger than I am and I hear people who are younger, you know, like 10 years younger.
That's because Because they're not taught anything in schools anymore.
Yes, exactly.
They don't understand that it was set up not to be a pure democracy because then you'd be wearing the underpants on the outside.
And that would look silly now, wouldn't it?
Yeah, it's like, oh, it's not fair that Wisconsin has the same amount of representation in the Senate.
That was the whole point.
But it was drawn up in a shady room, dusty and dark, and they had no flush toilets.
Unlike Iceland.
I think you did get the point that how did it work out for you with redoing the Constitution in 1946.
They have to do it again.
Yeah, that'll work out for you.
But then there's all this environmental stuff that's going to...
The other thing that really bugs me is the social media.
All these boneheads that are on Facebook all day, they should be rewriting our Constitution because they're the experts.
Give me a break!
Yeah, it's pretty sad.
And you can always follow me on Twitter.
If it was up to me, I'd shut down all these social networks.
Well, there's been some interesting news for those of you stupid enough.
Well, sorry.
I think that people who listen to the show probably aren't buying into, particularly the Facebook thing.
So there's a couple new services.
It says the Federal Trade Commission has given thumbs up to this company, Social Intelligence Corporation, which sells a new kind of employee background check to employers.
What this one does is it scours the Internet, which means they got to deal with Facebook for your posts and pictures to social media sites.
And they create a file, which now is a part of your employee recognition.
And there's an actual picture of one of these reports, a scam, where someone was flagged for, quote, demonstrating potentially violent behavior or for the flagrant display of weapons or bombs.
So this is now on your permanent record.
And I believe it's good for seven years.
Seven years is it going to hold this.
So it's now a part of the background check.
When you're going for a job, this is a service.
Some service.
Well, you know, we really want to hire this guy, but let's just check in with Social Media Intelligence Corporation.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, no.
I don't think we want that kind of behavior around us, do we?
No.
No.
I'm sorry.
No.
No.
Computer says no.
No, we're not going to do that.
Speaking of computers, so the internet licensing, the podcast license, of course, the days are upon us.
John, neither you or I, I think, really expected it to go this fast.
But here we are now with a series of what I call false flag hacking attempts.
Hacks!
Hacks, I tell you!
And, of course, MI6 is completely complicit.
Now, the anonymous thing wasn't good enough.
Using the group anonymous as, oh, they're hacking everything.
So now we had to bring in Lulzak, which is great because that sounds more hacker-ish.
And, of course, it's a 19-year-old kid.
Yeah, it does.
That's a good point.
It sounds more hacker-ish because it's got these little hack cores kind of...
Hexor kind of writing.
Now listen to the BBC reporting on this as if it's a terrorist.
Hey, hello.
There we go.
Secret government data under repeated attack over the internet.
Repeat!
On the internet secret government data!
How do you attack data?
By hitting it with a club!
...agencies bombarded with multiple messages...
Bombarded, I tell you!
Listen to these words.
Isn't that amazing?
...in an attempt to stop them functioning.
Neither police believe they've caught a possible ringleader.
Oh!
Ring-wearer, I think.
It was a noage in the night ring-wearer, not ring-leader.
Ring-wearer.
Oops.
19-year-old man.
Scotland Yard said it was a pre-planned intelligence-led operation following a number of cyber attacks on businesses and intelligence agencies.
They've seized a significant amount of material.
Significant!
The man has been named as Ryan Cleary.
The U.S. Central Intelligence Agency is just one of a number of organizations coming under cyber attack over the Internet from anti-government hackers who formed loose associations.
The Met Police e-Crimes Unit say they believe their suspect is linked to those attacks.
They've also been forensically searching his computer for any data linked to other recent attacks on Sony Corporation.
Whoever's to blame, these attacks are real and potentially highly damaging.
Hey!
Potentially highly damaging, John.
Potentially highly damaging.
They brought down a website.
A website.
Highly damaging how?
Let's listen.
The most secure computer is one that's unplugged in a room with no windows and no doors and never gets switched on.
As soon as you introduce human interaction or technological interaction, then you introduce vulnerabilities.
It's a question of defending the best you can against those vulnerabilities.
The police will have up to 96 hours to charge or release their suspect, but the battle to protect organizations from cyber attack will continue regardless.
Frank Gardner, BBC News.
So they make it sound like they hacked into the CIA servers, which, as the expert just said, you know, well, why don't you just disconnect those important servers?
This is a website, and they DDoS it or whatever it is.
It's not important.
And it's probably fake.
It's probably a complete false flag because we've got the Budapest convention that we have to harmonize with.
You know, we can't say anything insulting.
You've got to have a license.
You've got to have your internet media pass.
You have a podcast license to listen to podcasts.
And this is propagating all throughout mainstream media.
The international hacking groups Anonymous and Lucec say they will team up to launch cyber attacks on governments and financial institutions around the world.
The two hacker groups announced this on blogs and via Twitter on Monday.
They said they will still classify the information, including emails and other documents.
Now let me ask you a question, John.
If these incredibly sophisticated hackers are posting this on the tweeters and on blogs, Can't you track that?
Can't you just easily track the IP addresses?
Don't they do this all the time when they want to find someone?
They just subpoena a tweeter and they get the information who owns that account?
Why is that not happening now?
Well, there's a couple of things that are interesting to me.
One, yes, you can do that if you can, unless the thing has been covered up with you going through one of the hiding systems like...
You understand my point.
Yeah, but the other thing is, if you can't find out who it is, they close these accounts left and right.
Why are these accounts wide open on Twitter?
Tweeter.
On Twitter, in the first place, because it seems to me that they're shut down an account at the drop of a hat, you know, for somebody who looks cross-eyed at the ownership, and this is something, this is very sketchy.
And the other thing is, these hacker groups, what, do they have a joint press conference?
You know, together, the two of them decided, who's they?
I mean, these are all just pretty, you know, these groups are pretty loosely strung together.
So, Lulzak, Lilzek, L-U-L-Z-S-E-C. The Twitter account is still available.
In fact, the most recent tweet is, we're hoping to have Operation Anti-Security Payload No.
1 ready by Friday.
I mean, really?
Let's take a look at that.
It's hilarious.
It's just hilarious.
How many followers do they have?
Dude, 253,000.
Nice.
Tango down!
Brazil.gov and Presidencia.gov.br.
Lil Sec Brazil.
This is techno experts.
The reason why they're not shutting this down is because it's Hillary Lucifer Clinton's website.
What's the Lil Sec logo?
And now they're at LilSecSecurity.com.
The Lulz boat.
They've Lulz...
Oh.
That's their theme song.
Ha ha ha ha.
LOLS!
LOLS! LOLS!
Lolz.
Exciting and new.
I like that.
It's their homepage.
Come aboard.
Oh, they have lyrics.
We're expecting you.
You have to sing along, John.
And lolz.
Life's sweetest reward.
Let it flow.
Is that good?
It floats back to you.
The love boat.
Soon we'll be making another run.
I love it!
This is great.
Yeah, so of course, and they have press releases on the lullssecurity.com website.
So how come this isn't shut down?
They take out entire cages.
This just happened two days ago.
They took out an entire cage with like 4,600 websites, many of which had nothing to do with the FBI. With anything.
Yeah.
Nothing at all.
And this just keeps on going?
Oh, please.
You're insulting me.
It is pretty bad.
It's insulting.
I know.
Where's the big takedown notice?
Where's the DHS FBI takedown logo?
How come they don't switch the DNS on that?
Why not?
I mean, please, can we think for ourselves, people?
Please?
Please, for one second?
And you can always follow me on Twitter.
That's right.
Bring that guy in.
He'll fix it.
So they got 1,100 tweets.
So they haven't been on that long.
They got a lot of followers.
Yeah.
Of course!
They're only following two, and the two they're following are Nyan Cat and...
So instead of doing that, taking down this harmful group, taking down their website like they do for anyone who poops anything...
Oh, you're selling sunglasses.
Take it down.
No, they don't do that for this.
We're talking to CRA computers and taking names and databases and addresses.
No, no.
Instead, what are we going to do?
Tonight we're learning the public outrage over this image showing the pat-down of a six-year-old girl at the New Orleans airport has prompted a change in policy about searches of young children.
We've blurred this picture, by the way, for the child's privacy.
Airport security workers will now be told to make repeated attempts to screen young children without resorting to invasive pat-downs.
Yeah, right.
That's right.
Just take more pictures, radiate them more.
Yeah.
That's what we're doing.
That's the real important thing we're doing.
It's a farce.
Farce.
It's farcical.
It's a farce.
That's what it is.
So I found a new drug ad clip.
Oh, nice.
Very disappointed, though.
Oh, really?
What they've done, I don't know how they got away with this.
In the olden days, which two years ago, when we had these drug clips, you notice that we were always doing timings on them.
And they were like running 115, 130, and they were even two-minute ads because 45 seconds to over a minute of disclaimers were used on the ads.
Right.
Well, Lyrica, which is one of these drugs with all these bad characteristics.
What is Lyrica?
What does it do?
That's for fibromyalgia, which has the, apparently they say, they think it works because of one of those drugs.
They don't even know how it works.
Shut up, take it!
Just take it.
What's your FICO medication score, slave?
We don't know if you're going to take it.
I don't have a list of what was on there, but they've managed to talk, I guess, the networks.
The guys in the drug companies must have gone up to these guys.
They went to the government and said, look, these ads are killing us.
Instead of a one-minute ad, we have to do a minute and a half, two minutes just to get...
Is there any way that we can just print a bunch of stuff on the screen real quick and then dump it off there and then say a few things that are the most important?
Oh, so now it's like a car commercial where there's really fine print that has no resolution you can't even read?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So they do have a few things that they bitch and moan about.
But then there's a bunch of crap on the screen.
This also applies to blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and a whole bunch of things on the screen that if you're just listening to the ad, you're never going to see or read.
And you won't probably read it anyway.
But anyway, play the ad.
This is the ad of the future.
My whole body hurt.
It was an ongoing, deep pain.
I didn't understand it.
I found out that connected to our muscles are nerves that send messages through the body.
My doctor diagnosed it as fibromyalgia, thought to be the result of overactive nerves that cause chronic, widespread pain.
Lyrica is believed to calm these nerves.
I learned Lyrica can provide significant relief from fibromyalgia pain.
And less pain means I can feel better and do more of what matters.
Lyrica is not for everyone.
Lyrica may cause serious allergic reactions or suicidal thoughts or actions.
Tell your doctor right away if you have these.
New or worsening depression or unusual changes in mood or behavior or any swelling or affected breathing or skin or changes in eyesight, including blurry vision or muscle pain with fever or tired feeling.
Common side effects are dizziness, sleepiness, weight gain, and swelling of hands, legs, and feet.
Don't drink alcohol while taking Lyrica.
Don't drive or use machinery until you know how Lyrica affects you.
I found answers about fibromyalgia.
Then I found Lyrica.
Ask your doctor about Lyrica today.
Nice.
What is this thing going on?
Because, John, I want some.
I think I have fibromyalgia.
I might have swelling.
Yeah, well, by the way, if you have a problem, tell your doctor right away.
How can you even get a hold of your doctor nowadays right away?
Anyway, what is this thing where the person is saying, I have a sore and I found out, and I found out, and I found out.
Oh, no, it's a call to action to Google it.
Or, as we say, oh, oops, misfire.
Consultant.
I bet you if you look up fibromyalgia on Wikipedia, I bet you it shows...
Well, you think it's been Google-bombed with the ad drug company?
Of course.
Watch.
Let's find out.
Okay.
Again, we shall...
Consult the book of knowledge!
I don't know how you spell fibromyalgia.
Oh, there we go.
Fibromyalgia.
Mayo Clinic and Wikipedia.
There you go.
Fibromyalgia.
Number two hit, everybody.
Fibromyalgia and I'm sure Lyrica will show up here.
Let me just find it.
Lyrica.
There it is.
The anti-seizure drug Lyrica has been tested.
There you go.
It's seizures.
You get seizures from it.
Look at this page.
This is not a human resource page.
This is a drug company page.
And I'll bet you...
Look at it.
You see how it...
Look at all this.
Look at how neatly it's spaced.
I like the drawing of the woman with the pain points.
On the Wikipedia page?
Location of nine paired tender points that comprise...
Oh, right.
Oh, how convenient.
I bet you, if you go to...
I bet you that it's exactly in the same order.
It's a copy-paste job from their own indoctrination.
I betcha.
Well, while we're on the pharmaceutical tip then, new study, John!
New study!
Even though we have young girls dying from this Gardasil injection, we've had seizures, we have reports everywhere.
Oh no!
Not according to the mainstream media.
This, by the way, this is genius.
They have a package, a produced package, on network television, and they show the ad in the package.
Which, of course, means that it's actually an ad.
And it comes from a very interesting organization.
A new medical study gives an okay to the HPV vaccine.
The human papillomavirus can lead to cervical cancer, but the vaccine has sparked controversy over government recommendations that girls as young as 11 get it.
Now, as Betty Wynn reports, the HPV vaccine has been found to be especially effective for teenagers.
I just turned 17 when I got the HPV vaccine.
High school senior Karen Sanchez says her mom convinced her to get vaccinated for HPV. It was better to be safe than sorry.
Better to be prepared.
I chose to get my daughter vaccinated.
Since it was introduced in 2006, the HPV vaccine has been known to be an extremely effective weapon in the battle against cervical cancer.
In the United States, HPV is believed to cause up to a million cases of dangerous precancerous cervical abnormalities every year.
12,000 women develop cervical cancer and 4,000 will die.
Now, a new study provides more evidence that early vaccination can make a big difference.
That makes me feel safer to know that I got it early rather than waiting until I was sexually active after 18.
Published in the medical journal The Lancet, the study found girls under 18 who were vaccinated had a nearly 50% reduction in precancerous cervical abnormalities.
This study is the first real-life study of a vaccine program.
Dr.
Elizabeth Pointer is a gynecologist who specializes in cancer.
She calls the large-scale study of women from 12 to 26 significant.
I think it shows us that this is the group that we need to target.
We need to target younger women before they become sexually active and have the potential to be exposed to the virus.
And she says it's even more convincing evidence that teens like Karen could benefit from the vaccine.
Even though I'm still not sexually active, I feel better knowing that it'll work better for me because I got it earlier.
New York.
So thelancet.com is a commercial website.
The Lancet family of journals and their online home at www.thelancet.com Or whatever you want to call it.
Yeah.
It's so disgusting.
And they show the commercial for Gardasil during this package.
It is a commercial within a commercial.
And a study.
It's pretty slick.
It's disgusting, John.
It really is.
And then to have this poor girl, of course, she's African American.
Of course.
Oh no, you know, even though I'm not sexually active, I'm 11.
It's good because I know that it'll be working for me.
While Gardasil is proven to not even affect a large majority of the possible HPV, HP viruses.
And it just makes, you know, this is a, there's an entire industry around this pre-cancerous HPV.
And, you know, it's a money grab and it's freaking me out that, that.
Yeah, it's something you really dislike.
Well, this whole TheLancet.com was founded by Louis Pasteur, they say.
Who, of course, is the guy who...
He's turning over in his grave.
Yeah, of course he is.
The vaccination industry is running this site.
It was actually someone sent us this note that Eli Lilly...
Will be the company losing the most revenue from its pharmaceuticals during the patent cliff, which is coming, John.
The patent cliff.
As it will wave goodbye to more than 50% of its sales through 2020 as its brand name drugs lose their market exclusivity.
Yeah, well that's not necessarily true because there's a scam that's been discussed now and again.
That is kind of interesting.
What's that?
They do a calculation.
They make like so many billions of dollars on drug A and drug A's patent is going to run out.
So they'll go to the generic drug makers and there's only a few of them.
There's a handful that are going to take the drug and roll it out as a generic.
And they basically just go over there with a pot full of money, find the CEO and say, hey, here.
Here.
Here's a few million.
Just put this off for another five years.
You'll make your money then.
It's no big deal.
What's the difference they make to you?
Look at this new car you can drive, a Bentley.
Hey, it's a Volt.
Here's a Volt for you.
And they just bribe them.
And these guys say, okay, well, you don't have to produce it right now.
Yeah.
Yeah, you're right.
That's perfect.
It works.
Oh, yeah.
Because the amount of money that the generic drug guys make is very calculable.
It's about one hundredth of what the drug pharmaceutical company would have made on that drug because they overcharge.
So they can give them that money, the profit in advance, without them having to do any work.
It's just business.
And they're still in business.
Yeah, it's just business.
So Qantas Airlines has decided, as the only airline, as far as I know, to shut down flights because of the volcanic ash cloud.
And this is the one...
So, Singapore is still flying, Air New Zealand is still flying, Emirates...
Is this the one in Chile, the new volcano?
It's the...
Is it the Chile one?
I thought it was Indonesia.
I could be wrong.
Who cares?
It's like all...
Yeah, it's a...
But, so this is an article in The Age...
I should play the jingle, actually.
What am I thinking about?
It's like...
All aboard!
Trains good!
Planes bad!
So this is the only airline that shuts down for this horrible ash cloud.
And here's the quote.
Certainly one of the benefits of high-speed rail would be that it offers resilience in times like this where airlines are grinding to a halt.
It said, David George, Chief Executive of the Cooperative Research Center for Rail Innovation.
Like, hello, you're being scammed.
They got a big rail they're trying to, a high-speed rail they're trying to build in Australia.
So they're being scammed.
Well, they got a big article in today's New York Times morning Thursday paper, business day, front page of the business day.
High-speed rail poised to alter China.
It's a huge article, a picture of a high-speed train.
And although you have the balanced coverage with high costs and fares draw criticisms, but the fact is they're going to have all these trains.
Nearly 200 bullet trains a day are expected to create a business corridor between China's two most dynamic cities.
The train station in Beijing.
Nice!
200 trains a day from Beijing to Shanghai?
What is that?
Sounds like a subway service.
Yeah, running slaves, man.
200 a day?
Hold on.
That's an awful lot of...
Nice.
What?
What?
Mickey says she might have a casting for Criminal Minds.
Oh, good.
That's good.
Thanks for interrupting the news.
LAUGHTER Well, that's kind of news.
It is!
It's real news.
Anyway, 200 trains a day, it doesn't even sound...
Take the train to your casting, honey.
Yeah.
Oh, well.
Hey, you know, just to wind up here, so Chuck Schumer is the guy who, of course, needs to be interviewed about the whole Anthony Weiner scandal, because he's Chuck Schumer's boy.
Chuck's boy.
Chuckie's boy.
Chuckie's boy.
Well, I know why they don't let Chuckie do that, because Chuckie can't keep to the script.
Chuckie flubs the scripts.
I saw this.
I saw this clip.
This is hilarious.
Now, economists will tell you, or rather, you look at the election, and there were two mandates.
One, get the deficit down, get rid of wasteful spending.
But two, and even more important, create jobs and get the economy growing.
And economists will tell you that one of the best ways to do that, we're going to look at two things.
One is deficit, or one is...
One is infrastructure and one is some kind of encouraging of employment.
Now economists will tell you that when you...
Now economists will tell you deficit.
But wait, one is infrastructure and one is encouraging employment.
But then he says deficit and he looks down literally at the script and he keeps trying to do it.
Economists will tell you.
So he studied the lines and he knows it starts with economists will tell you, but he can't remember the rest.
Douchebag!
Biggest douche.
He's bad.
Well, that's about it.
I think I got one more thingy.
They're still propagating the rape meme.
Now it's unbelievable.
The International Criminal Court, which America doesn't recognize, is now the authority on rape.
This was Little Timmy.
Little Timmy showed up at the Wall Street Journal CFO conference.
And, correct me if I'm wrong, but what he says in this is, there will be no crisis because the debt ceiling will be raised.
And what I'm hearing him say is, if Congress doesn't do it, we will.
Does that make any sense to you, that he could say that?
No.
Listen to it and tell me if I'm wrong.
You're describing an outcome that will essentially be two-tiered.
Down payment now, longer-term agreement later.
Yeah, we don't see a realistic path to solving all this at once in the next few weeks.
It's just not possible.
But what we're trying to do is to do a framework where there's a...
A substantial down payment of spending reforms that lock in spending, say, deficit reduction over a 10-year period of time.
And then a framework of constraints.
We call it a debt fail-safe, or a set of targets and triggers that will force the remaining deficit reduction to happen soon enough so we don't fall behind the curve in this.
So we're looking at what we call a debt cap, meaning a constraint that says we have to get our deficit down to the point where our debt burden is falling as a share of GDP over the next three to five years.
So whatever we don't do in the down payment, we'll have to do in the next couple of years.
And if Congress can't act, we want an automatic enforcement mechanism that locks in the deficit reduction savings we need.
That sounded to me like Congress doesn't matter.
Yeah, a little bit.
Maybe.
I don't know.
I could barely get through the clip.
The guy is so boring.
He's very boring.
And I watch this stuff.
And he stutters and he's got that, like I said, leave it to beaver sound that just is weird.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Buenas tardes, everybody!
Buenas tardes!
The guy's doing too many languages now.
Guten Abend!
Buenas tardes!
Hello, everybody!
It's tough.
Tough to follow the man.
And so do we want to end a show clip or just want to get out of here?
I got the Southwest Pilots audio.
No, I got nothing.
I mean, I got a clip left, but it's not worth stopping the flow.
That was another Trains Good, Planes Bad, that Southwest Pilots stuck Mike, where the flight attendants were gay or grannies.
Like, oh my God.
Did you hear that?
Did you hear that audio?
No, I didn't.
You got it?
Yeah, I got the unedited without bleeps if you want to hear it.
I mean, it's really offensive.
I mean, it's really, really offensive.
Well, how offensive could it be compared to some of the stuff we do?
Yeah, correct.
Well, it's like, if you saw this guy, you'd be like, you're a dick.
That's what you'd say.
But it's kind of funny because I've got the news like, oh, it's horrible!
And this guy's been suspended.
What happens is he flips the auto switch, which is, by the way, I call pilot error and very stupid.
The guy's probably not fit to fly that he does this.
So in other words, everybody in the cabin?
No, no, no, no, no.
Everybody on the frequency.
So you've got air traffic control.
And then you've got all these others.
Everyone can hear you.
Air traffic control.
You've got the other planes.
And air traffic control, actually, you will not hear this full clip anywhere in the mainstream media, of course, because it's highly offensive to homosexuals and old people.
It's really bad.
And to women, actually.
The whole thing is bad.
The guy's just offensive.
Listen.
This is air traffic control.
Well, but I had two sons ending all four weeks.
So he's talking to either his first officer or, I don't know if he's captain or first officer, but he's talking in the cockpit and doesn't realize that every single time he talks, the mic is keying.
In Chicago Cruz.
Eleven out of twelve, there's twelve flight attendants, individual, never the same flight attendant twice.
Eleven fucking over-the-top fucking ass fucking homosexuals and a granny.
Eleven!
I mean, think of the odds of that.
I thought I was in Chicago, which was party land.
After that, it was just a continuous dream of days and grannies and grandes.
I don't give a fuck.
I hate 100% of their ass.
So, six months, I went to the bar three times.
The granny and the fag, and I wish I had gone.
At the very end with two girls, one of them that was quite doable, but we ended up going to the bar and then to the crew in St.
Louis, and all these two women wanted to do was one wanted to berate her sister and the other wanted to bitch about her husband.
Literally.
For three hours, me and the FO, when that was done, 2.30 got back to my room, I'm like, why the fuck did I step?
Okay, love is transmitting.
You better watch what you're saying now.
I mean, it's all these fucking old dudes and grannies, and there's like maybe a handful of key chicks.
Okay, someone's got a stuck mic and telling us all about their endeavors.
We don't need to hear that.
It gets better.
Houston, SkyWest 335.
We were 19.5 for T3.0 and that was not us.
Skylar 6285, Houston Center.
Roger, climb and maintain.
Flight level 360.
Now everyone's like weighing in.
Skylar 6285.
They wonder why airline pilots have a bad reputation.
This is the best part.
The other guys are talking.
Tone 28, contact Fort Worth Center now, 133.1.
133.1.
133.2.
Then one more.
Number 7, Hotel Bravo to Santa Paula's discretion.
Maintain.
I was like, wouldn't me?
Roger.
I didn't think that was you.
Wasn't me.
So, uh...
By the way, that's exactly what your pilot's doing up there.
Moaning and groaning.
How offensive.
This guy is a douche.
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
That's what makes our show great.
We play these clips.
Yeah, well...
The mainstream media would never play that.
No, it was very hard to find...
Well, for me, it wasn't really, but it was reasonably hard to find the audio, because it was all like, bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep.
It's like, yeah, yeah.
What's the point of bleeping it?
Because it's bad, offensive words.
That's what the guy said.
It's illegal in Tennessee.
And that's that.
Yeah, but, uh...
Grant, here's the thing that got me.
What's a grande...
I think Agrande is an older homosexual.
Male.
But as a bi-curious male, this clip outraged me!
I will never fly with Southwest Airlines again!
Was it Southwest?
Yeah.
And the guy got suspended.
I would think.
It's embarrassing.
Southwest.
Really, really bad.
Anyway.
We are the official grannies of Gitmo Nation.
I'm the grande, he's the granny.
Woo!
Coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center, where the current USA... Factory-manufactured Diamond Crown resides, and I'm surprised John didn't have any clips.
In the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
I'm surprised myself.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where after the show, I'm going to try that unique concept, which is the taste of vanilla mixed with chocolate.
Woo!
I'm John C. Dvorak.
We will be back again on Sunday, and maybe John will think it's Thursday.
Right here.
I hope.
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