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	I'm thinking that the three thing is a message back to base.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Sunday, January 23rd, 2011.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 272.
	This is no agenda.
	Tracking revolutions of all colors, so you don't have to.
	Here at the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center, in Gidmore Nation West.
	In the People's Republic of Southern California, in the morning, I am Adam Curry.
	And from northern Silicon Valley, where it's NFL... Never mind, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning!
	Are you okay there, John?
	I just had a frog in my throat.
	It said...
	You were trying to do a horrible sports reference and it backfired on you.
	That's what happened.
	That's because you have a curse on me when it comes to that.
	When it comes to sports, yeah.
	Yeah, not liking the sports.
	Well, in the morning to you, John.
	In the morning to you, in the morning to all ships at sea, feet on the ground, and dung in the pit.
	Yeah.
	Wait, I've got to add that one.
	That's a good one.
	Hold on.
	Dung.
	In the pit.
	All right, let's do it properly.
	All ships at sea, boots on the ground, wings in the skies, foots in the oceans, checks in the mail, bakers in the kitchen, dung in the pit, astronauts manning the moon and Mars base stations, hams on the air, and human resources everywhere, especially those in our chat room, noagendastream.com, where everybody has assembled.
	They are all charged up exactly the way their government loves them.
	Nice and energized, full of electricity, ready to be tapped.
	And that'll be it for this week's show.
	Ready to be sucked dry.
	Hey, I was right, John.
	Yes, you were.
	To the day.
	Two weeks to the day.
	Yeah, but it hasn't ended yet.
	Yeah, it's over because...
	You fell short.
	No, on Tuesday we have our El Presidente's...
	State of the Union.
	So everyone's now talking about jobs, jobs, jobs.
	State of the Union.
	We've forgotten about everything.
	It's over.
	It's done.
	Today is the last day.
	Two weeks to the team.
	You're right about that.
	Tuesday, you should switch things over.
	That should be the turning point.
	Yeah.
	Now, I'd say it's...
	Well, that's because all they're doing now is just...
	Now, they finish with every news show.
	Every angle.
	Every angle.
	Yeah, then they got every doctor in the world, every neurosurgeon has been on the air.
	These guys shouldn't be on television.
	Talking about what possibly can...
	You know, actually, this has got a tracheotomy, and a bullet went here, the bullet went there.
	We're kind of surprised about this.
	Yeah.
	She had a good flight.
	She had a good trip.
	Transport was good.
	I saw her being transported by ambulance, and I saw her being transported by helicopter.
	Which was it?
	It was both B-roll, so who knows?
	Exactly.
	That's my point, exactly.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Yeah, so of course we're talking about the shooting of the congresswoman, and that that has now been on the national agenda of these Gitmo Nation states here.
	For two weeks.
	And I think it's done.
	I think it's completely done.
	It's over.
	We'll get some updates from time to time.
	It'll be a throwback when we have like 30 seconds to close out the hour before the top when we have to hit the network break.
	And that's when we're going to do a quick little update and we'll get some B-roll from a doctor saying that she's doing fine and everything's good.
	Yeah.
	I think that's going to be about it.
	But the most impressive news, which I think we've already forgotten about, actually happened during the show, on Thursday's show.
	It took place, and it just made me smile and laugh and chuckle out loud as 100 mobsters were arrested on the east coast of the United States.
	And I just love it how we get a chief of staff in the White House...
	From an at least suspected crime family, the Chicago Daly family, and two weeks later, every single mobster, not just New York, but Rhode Island, they're all arrested.
	There's no mob in Chicago, apparently.
	Apparently not, no.
	They arrested all the rest of the guys.
	And it's like low-level guys, too.
	It's not like a crime, top-of-the-line boss.
	There was one old man, apparently, who was one of the fathers.
	I think he was a retired capo.
	Right.
	But you agree with me, right?
	It's like the clean house.
	He's in one of the movies.
	I think not!
	It totally was.
	There's a lot of paperwork out there and the full list of indictments.
	Have you seen the nicknames on these guys?
	Yeah, they're great.
	It's like a bunch of blogs cropped up around the nicknames.
	Tony Bagels, Johnny Bandana, Vinnie Carwash.
	I think Vinnie Carwash is great.
	Fat Dennis, The Old Man, and The Professor.
	You could be that.
	You could be Baby Shacks, The Old Man.
	Or Baby Fat Larry.
	Who stole the feds?
	Benji the Claw.
	You know, that's the only guy I was afraid of, looking at these nicknames.
	I don't want Benji the Claw sneaking up on me at night.
	No, Benji the Claw sounds like a bad guy.
	He sounds like he's got something bad going on there.
	Anyway, good work there by...
	What?
	His name's Daly.
	Daly, yeah.
	Good work.
	Good work getting rid...
	It's just a little message to all the guys in New York.
	It's like, hey, just so you know, we're in charge now.
	Because it is separate, right?
	The New York mom is very separate.
	Well, yeah.
	The New York guys are kind of in a gentleman's agreement.
	There's a bunch of gangs, you know, the Genoveses, the...
	They got like five families or something.
	Five families or six, depending.
	And then Chicago's got its own thing, and then St.
	Louis has got its own thing, and Kansas City has...
	I mean, most of these are kind of not what they used to be, but...
	Yeah, the good old days.
	I'm sure Chicago is closest to still having, you know, pretty well-organized operations.
	Right.
	I just thought it was hilarious.
	I just thought it was hilarious.
	Rhode Island, New York, we've got more New England, but Chicago?
	Nah.
	Nothing going on there.
	Not a single mobster to be found.
	Yeah, no coincidence.
	Yeah, right.
	Unbelievable.
	So what else?
	Oh, well, there's so much going on.
	Actually, there was something else that happened right after the show.
	Actually, I think I did know about it just before the show.
	We've been following and tracking the Hollywood Whackers.
	Well, you have more than me because you're down there and you get to gossip.
	Yeah, I'm in the milieu.
	The milieu.
	Milieu, yeah.
	And so there was a suicide the day after the Golden Globe Awards.
	One of the Hollywood Foreign Press Association members in an apparent, as everyone reports it, apparent suicide shot himself in the head.
	Why?
	Why?
	Well, this kind of, and I think this might actually be a real suicide, but it's not unrelated to the problems with the mob in Hollywood.
	Also, no mobsters picked up here, because that's the real mob, the Russian mob.
	You don't want to mess with them.
	This was Max B. Miller, an older gentleman.
	He's a photojournalist.
	So all the allegations, and there's an actual lawsuit now from the PR firm against the Hollywood Foreign Press Association that states that the whole thing is corrupt.
	And it's all about money at the end of the day.
	Because if you win a Golden Globe, then you're already seeing it now on television.
	It's being used as a perfect PR mechanism to start promoting the Oscars, which I think is pretty – that is a real award show, although questionable here and there as well.
	But this Hollywood Foreign Press, everyone's selling their votes essentially for whatever.
	And so I was reading a couple of articles about this Max B. Miller quote here.
	He never really recovered from his divorce.
	His business was going down.
	He barely had any income the past few months.
	And this was like a major guy.
	This is one of the guys who was voting.
	Everyone was taking advantage of his generosity.
	And last but not least, he was so worried about his son's future, which I wasn't able to track anything down on that.
	So probably this guy...
	Oh, that probably has something to do with the...
	Now, that's actually a mob reference.
	Yes, that's the mob reference.
	And I think that...
	Because the Russians like the...
	You know, that's the old Stalin thing.
	They wouldn't kill you.
	No, they take out your family, of course.
	Yeah, they kill everybody.
	Grandma, you know...
	Starting with grandma.
	Babies.
	So that's your Russian mob reference.
	And I think that the guy felt really bad.
	He was older, like in his early 70s.
	He probably felt really horrible about what he had done.
	He had sold out his vote, because he had to.
	Like most of these guys, these people have got no money.
	They're part-time journalists taking pictures.
	Anyway, a couple of good links under the Hollywood Whackers heading at NoAgendaShow.com in the show notes.
	Just more fuel on the fire there.
	It's a nutty thing that's going on here.
	And no one apparently seems to really see it.
	You know the only guy who wasn't there who I think is now elevated to a status above everyone in Hollywood is Clooney.
	Clooney has malaria.
	Oh, man.
	Luckily, because of good medicine, if only he had had the vaccine, John.
	Well, all I know is he has malaria, so he couldn't make it.
	That's not why he didn't go.
	Sure, if you've got malaria, you're not going.
	He's had malaria for a while now.
	It flares up.
	Didn't you watch him on Piers Morgan?
	No, I missed that.
	Oh, my God.
	He was on Piers Morgan?
	Oh, I got some clips.
	How did I miss that one?
	Well, you know, Piers Morgan, of course, is failing as predicted.
	And no one's watching Piers Morgan.
	Well, you can't watch the guy.
	He's a British twit.
	It's like watching the Monty Python show.
	You can't even get ratings with Clooney.
	You've got a problem.
	Here's Clooney on the Piers Morgan show.
	I was going to start this final segment with you by asking about the glory of being George Clooney, but you've just told me that you've got a bad of malaria.
	It doesn't sound that great.
	Well, you know, even with malaria, it's just good fun.
	What?
	Being George Clooney is just good fun, even with malaria.
	I mean, you look excited.
	What?
	Oh, it reminds me of the time he was on Letterman, and Letterman says, you just get all the chicks, don't you?
	Yeah, yeah.
	And that was the one, yeah.
	Oops.
	Sorry about that.
	I thought it was down to me, but it turns out it's actually this, I mean, you do get malaria flare-ups quite regularly, Dave.
	No, I've had it twice.
	This is just, I just, you know, some, I guess the mosquito in Juba looked at me and thought I was the bar.
	Which I didn't get that joke.
	The mosquito in Juba.
	Who's Juba?
	Juba is, I guess, it's a place in Sudan.
	I guess.
	Maybe it's his girlfriend.
	There's a girlfriend named Juba.
	Maybe this chat room knows.
	And he says, thought I was the bar.
	It's like, it wasn't even funny, George.
	It was like, okay.
	Well, what's his name, Laughed?
	Because Pierce is a suck-up.
	All he does is laugh.
	There's more.
	George Clooney contracted malaria.
	This is actually the Reuters video report, which is what this is, is better because that has all the great memes in it.
	During a trip to Sudan earlier this month, but is now fully cured, according to a spokesman for the Oscar-winning actor.
	A frequent visitor to the war-torn nation, Clooney was helping draw attention to a historic referendum on independence for residents of the mainly Christian South.
	According to a statement released by his publicist, it was Clooney's second bout with the disease.
	It quoted him as saying, quote, This illustrates with proper medication the most...
	Proper medication?
	So we've got...
	Africa, war-torn.
	Medication, proper medication.
	He's like a spokesman.
	They've added on another gig.
	He's taken on...
	It also gives Clooney a note of martyrdom.
	Poor guy's got malaria twice.
	The condition in Africa can be reduced to a bad ten days instead of a death sentence.
	Instead of a death sentence.
	Right.
	Clooney's illness first broke in a tweet from CNN chat show host Piers Morgan.
	Uh-huh.
	How Clooney is a guest on his show Friday, January 21st.
	He may not have malaria at all.
	I'm thinking now that it was a deal that Piers...
	Because the news broke...
	A broke promotion.
	Everyone was supposed...
	The whole thing you think is a promotional publicity stunt, a scam.
	It possibly is.
	Why would you wait?
	If you have malaria or anyone...
	Why would you tell Piers Morgan and not anyone else?
	Yeah, really.
	That makes no sense.
	I think you caught one.
	And all the news reports were quoting a tweet from Pierce.
	I'm like, that's not news.
	That's not how you report news.
	This is a last-ditch effort to promote the show that nobody's going to watch anyway.
	You can get people to watch it once.
	I've watched it once.
	Yeah, you watched the Condoleezza Rice and you turned it off in disgust.
	Well, I just turned it off because it's just boring.
	He's fascinated with whether she has the sniffles or not.
	I mean, he doesn't get into any meat.
	I mean, Larry King, you know, even though people think he was a softball tosser, at least he tossed the ball.
	This guy doesn't have a ball to toss.
	It was...
	I thought it was very, very interesting.
	I did watch the interview with Pierce.
	Actually, Pierce was interviewing George and his dad.
	George always has a handler now, somebody.
	Yeah, that's his handler.
	For the day.
	I did pull a couple of clips.
	The first one, which I thought was outstanding in its ability to make me pissed off and angry, George, there are lots of Hollywood stars who latch on to causes, and sometimes more than one.
	I saw an interesting thing that you said recently where you said the important thing if you're going to do this, you choose one cause and you commit yourself to it properly and you are passionate about that cause.
	Expand on that for me, but also explain perhaps in more detail why it was Sudan for you that really caught your attention and your passion.
	Well, first of all, I think the idea is that you have to...
	I worked on the Haiti Telethon, for instance, or the Tsunami Telethon.
	There are things you can do that you can get involved in.
	You know, Katrina, there are elements that you can...
	Notice he taught just briefly right there.
	The Haiti thing, you know.
	The Haiti thing.
	George, I have some...
	And if I were Pearson, I had some follow-up on the Haiti thing.
	Mr.
	I'm replacing Larry King.
	It doesn't mean that you can only be involved in one.
	But if there's one that you care about, you have to be informed.
	You have to really...
	You know, you have to be able to...
	You have to be informed.
	You have to really know what's going on in Haiti.
	Answer the critics.
	You have to...
	The critics, like the No Agenda show, who are critics.
	Critical of your handling of taking all the money, George.
	And sometimes those critics being, for instance, Omar al-Bashir.
	I'm not Omar al-Bashir.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	I have to be able to answer him.
	I have to be able to answer when I sit in front of the Security Council, one of the rotating members of the Security Council, or the Chinese ambassador, when they say, well, these are just rebels, you can say, well, rebels don't have tanks.
	You have to be informed.
	On it.
	And I think that that's the reason that you have to try to, when I say pick one, it doesn't mean don't help other people.
	It just means...
	Sounds like he's stammering.
	He always starts to stammer when he's unsure of what to say.
	Touching his nose the whole time.
	All the tell-tale signs.
	Because he clearly, he went out and brought in tons of money for Haiti.
	And it was so incredibly...
	I'm sorry, you have to be so incredibly involved and you have to really think about it.
	And it's bullcrap!
	Because, you know, now would be the time for George Clooney to stand up and say, hey, you know, this is really not okay.
	Because, you know, these people haven't received the money.
	It's all been stolen.
	It'd be a good deal if he did that right now.
	Then I would retract everything I've said about George Clooney if he did that right now.
	Yeah, does he?
	Of course not.
	Of course not.
	Because we know that he's a CIA asset.
	Before we get to the people we need to thank this morning, or for our producers, I think we have one or two.
	If you listen to the following bits from this fantastic in-depth interview, this setup, and by the way, Clooney isn't even in the studio.
	He's on satellite.
	His dad is in the studio.
	Which is weird.
	You can't...
	It's pointless.
	So, if you listen to this bit with...
	And bear in mind that Clooney is a CIA asset.
	It gets really funny when you listen to what he's saying.
	So Pierce brings up the spying via satellite, and isn't that weird, seeing as that George Clooney himself sued Hard Copy Entertainment Tonight?
	Remember this a couple years ago, John?
	He was like, because they were invading on his privacy?
	Oh yeah.
	And he was leading a huge charge, and this is when, actually it's a little bit long, a few years ago, after Princess Diana was assassinated, so-called by paparazzi, that's when, of course, there was George to go and cover it all up.
	Oh, the paparazzi are bad.
	Please don't look over here at who might have actually assassinated her.
	And there was George, already an early asset, and so it's kind of ironic that he is now spying down to one foot in diameter in Sudan.
	A certain irony, I guess, that you're now deploying, effectively, paparazzi covert photography in the Sudan.
	Now, I'm sure you'll argue, quite rightly, that it's obviously ostensibly the public interest to do this.
	Hold on a second.
	What?
	When you're interviewing somebody, you do not give them the answer and then approve of the pre-approved answer by saying the words quite rightly.
	But that's what it is.
	Thank you for assassinating that.
	It's an idiot.
	I mean, this is like, well, Adam, I'm sure you'll agree with me when I tell you that.
	Of course, you know this already.
	That kind of interviewing is not interviewing.
	No, but that's the whole point, is take into mind that this is the Ministry of Truth and wait until his dad comes in.
	This is the British version.
	We never use that in the U.S. when we pull this crap.
	We don't go, well, Adam, you're going to say quite rightly.
	Quite rightly, because if you don't say that, it wouldn't be quite right, would it?
	You have to be right when you say this.
	Rightly.
	John, say it quite rightly now.
	But it made me wonder, both for you and your father, Where do you think the line should be drawn with photography and paparazzi?
	So you know, Piers, did you notice you said photography just in general?
	Because we had, last show, we talked about this.
	That's what I'm getting to.
	Stay tuned.
	It gets better.
	These people are about to tell you where you're at, slave.
	Listen to this.
	This is great.
	I'm also watching your house.
	See?
	This is how you set it into the mind of people.
	I'm watching your house, Pierce.
	Really?
	It's not just the studio.
	Oh, yes.
	And we'll talk about it later because there's some cash coming.
	You hear the fake laugh, right?
	Because the joke was set up because you need to understand that your house is being watched.
	Of course, not by George Clooney, but you are being watched.
	And just listen to this.
	This is amazing.
	Look, me and your girlfriend are just good friends, all right?
	She was just delivering milk.
	We're just mad.
	You drink a lot of milk, apparently.
	Well, where is the line for you, George?
	As one of the most photographed guys in the world, where do you think the line should be?
	I'll tell you why I asked this.
	I suppose as an editor, I would play devil's advocate and say this to you.
	How do you feel specifically about, say, a famous actor or actress?
	Forget that.
	Listen to his dad.
	Hold on.
	One more thing I want to point out here for deconstructing purposes.
	When somebody's, you know, instead of just asking hard questions, he kind of says to play devil's advocate, which essentially means he doesn't agree that he's going to be asking these questions.
	It's a very interesting trick.
	It's not a trick.
	It's actually kind of a disclaimer.
	In other words, you know, I'm agreeing with everything you say.
	But just to play devil's advocate, because somebody out there is going to want me to really ask a hard question, so I'm going to play devil's advocate and ask what's kind of a hard question, but I'm already on your side on the answer.
	It's just the whole thing is bad.
	It's really bad form this guy has.
	Which is why he's going to get fired.
	He tells their wedding or their baby's christening for a million dollars and they keep it.
	So he goes into some of that Hollywood bullcrap.
	But then Piers goes to his dad because this is where the real message comes in from his handler.
	Let me ask Nick here.
	You are a newsman.
	It is a fine line here because the commercialization of celebrity, particularly in the last ten years, has been such that many celebrities consult with paparazzi.
	I know that from the other side of the fence.
	They make money out of the...
	We've lost privacy, so we might as well just admit that.
	Do you hear that, slaves?
	Hey, this is from a journalist...
	This is from the...
	George Clooney's dad, he's the journalist.
	Hey, listen, slaves, you have no privacy.
	You might as well just admit that.
	Some of the Supreme Court rulings, some things that have happened after that.
	There is no, relatively speaking, there is little or no privacy left.
	Just so you know, you have no privacy.
	My son doesn't have it.
	You don't have it.
	So therefore, we none of us have it.
	This is the message from the Ministry of Truth.
	...anymore.
	That battle has already been lost.
	The...
	It's a serious journalist.
	Unbelievable.
	Yeah, so I could go on.
	You could go on.
	In fact, another thing that bugs me, Pierce Morgan says the paparazzi thing, and he says, particularly in the last ten years, it's bullcrap.
	Not the last ten years.
	The funny thing is, Clooney at the end, somewhere in one of these bits, is like, you know, Bono used to do a good job at all this, and essentially saying, you know, Bono's out.
	Really?
	Yeah, I think Bono's out.
	Did you see him at Sergeant Shriver's wake?
	No.
	I couldn't put up with much of the Sergeant Shriver things.
	Yeah, well, I didn't watch any of it, but I saw stuff on the news, and I saw, like, Bill Clinton, and, you know, he's cracking jokes.
	Of course, Shriver was, what, 95, so he had a great life.
	It's a celebration of life.
	And then Bono's there with the Edge playing some, like, uh, so...
	And the Edge is playing acoustic guitar, and Bono is...
	What's Bono got to do with Sergeant Shriver?
	Because he's all part of the elite, man.
	That's what it is.
	I can't see Sergeant Shriver and Bono hanging out.
	It's the Kleiner-Perkins connection.
	There's a connection there.
	The Shrivers are connected to KP with the Special Olympics and the Peace Corps.
	Come on, man.
	The Peace Corps.
	You don't understand how that works.
	I don't have to explain it to you.
	To all the elites.
	In the morning to all the elites.
	Well, in the morning to our producers.
	Yes, we have a few, I believe.
	We're having an Uber title called Special Executive Producer.
	Oh, really?
	Hold on a second.
	Special Executive Producer.
	All right.
	Yeah, this is...
	And I'm of the opinion, at least currently, that it's probably going to only go to Baron von Pelsbach's.
	When he chimes in, we have to give him a kind of a shout-out in a different way.
	So he'll be our special executive producer for today's show.
	He gave us $1,111.11 because apparently he thinks that...
	Well, he doesn't think.
	He has the impression.
	Let me just read his note.
	Always catching up to the older shows.
	Just got the show number 250.
	He's way behind.
	Sorry, he says.
	I heard that I'm basically paying Adam's rent.
	So I guess I better continue.
	Wouldn't want him to have no roof over his head.
	Thank you so much!
	More importantly, today's brought a little karma to our family, or more correctly, to my dearest wife, Catherine.
	She was in town, a liege, and got her purse brazenly...
	I think it's liege.
	Liège.
	Could be.
	And got her purse brazenly stolen while...
	Enjoying breakfast with a friend.
	It's amazing how much cojones some people, cojones, he uses that word in Belgium.
	Baron von Pelsmacher.
	Wow.
	You shock me.
	Some people have to walk off with a purse in a busy eatery, but I guess that's par for the course in these economically uncertain times.
	The usual rigmarole of getting cards blocked, mobile phones missing, car keys missing, etc.
	Were it not that some gentleman, a real one, found her purse a little while later and all that was missing was the cash.
	All the rest was still there, and the good man even took the trouble to come drop it off.
	So the karma gods were 99% on the ball today, and one cannot ever be thankful enough for that.
	Hence, I would like to dedicate the special 11-11 knighthood to add another dame to the table, namely Catherine Pelsmacher's Mosen.
	I doubt if ever I made her listen, she would find...
	I don't think his family knows what he's doing with their money.
	This is...
	Do you have that feeling?
	If you ever made her listen, she would find much to appreciate in the show, or he doubts that she would find much to appreciate in the show, or her theories, but hey.
	Well, do we dame her or not?
	Yeah, we might as well.
	Well, how come she's not on the list, shill?
	She'll be the unknown dame.
	Yeah, why isn't she on the list?
	Yeah, because Eric's too busy bitching about boarding passes.
	And then we have an executive producer, Kelly Spongberg, Black Knight Kelly, as we call him in the real world.
	Rocky Mountain House, Alberta, Canada, where all the money is.
	Second installment for Dallas Spongberg's Nighthood, Dame Andrea and Sir Kelly will be attending Macworld 2011.
	We're hoping no agenda meetup in San Francisco that week to help propagate the formula.
	Set it up.
	I'll try to show up.
	Also, if things get too hot in the USA, remember, we Canadians welcome immigrants as long as they have a no agenda challenge coin or a mothership boarding pass.
	Perfect.
	Black Knight, Kelly Spongberg.
	Beautiful.
	And we have two associate executive producers.
	Robert Wilcher from Tampa, Florida, who is also the lone and sole member of the 272 Club.
	He is the head of it.
	And finally, Jared Forrester of Regina, rhymes with, Saskatchewan, California.
	And this should finish the Nighthood Layaway, so he'll be Sir Jared halfway through the show.
	And this is interesting because we have...
	Three people of the four executive producers that aren't even Americans.
	They're out of the country.
	Two Canadians.
	We want to thank them a lot.
	And then we have somebody in Florida.
	So we actually have no Americans at all that were executive producers this week.
	We have a Floridian.
	Oh, and I've got one more.
	I'm sorry.
	I'm wrong.
	Stephen Liddick in Dallas, Texas.
	$205.
	I missed him on the list here.
	Hey guys, this is my first donation to No Agenda.
	I'm giving $5 for each month.
	The show has been online.
	Everyone should do that.
	39 months equals $195.
	I'm also giving an extra $10 for a karma shout-out for me and my girl Sonia.
	You've got karma.
	Right on.
	Thank you.
	They're trying to make a little human resource and they're having some setbacks.
	We'd appreciate any karma you could throw our way.
	Thanks.
	We can help with that too, by the way.
	Just let us know where we have to be.
	It's full-on service.
	We have one American.
	We have one Floridian, two Canadians, and Sir Stephen.
	Wow.
	That just goes to show how sad the state of affairs is in the United States of Gitmo Nation.
	Yeah.
	No one cares.
	But you know what, tonight...
	And actually, Texas might not even be counted as America.
	Tonight, Kim and Khloe take on New York, so that's the most important thing that's on everyone's mind here.
	What's that?
	Kim and Khloe take New York.
	The Kardashians, the new season.
	I don't think I've ever seen that show.
	You're missing a lot.
	Anyway, anyone who wants to be the executive producer for our upcoming show on Thursday, please go to Dvorak.org slash NA and contribute or go to your email box and see if you can find that email we sent out.
	A couple of PR mentions.
	First of all, Matt Stewart, who did his PR duties yesterday in the Future Shop, he took a picture of it, and he might have taken a video of it, actually.
	Yeah, he did take a video of it.
	I think I've got it playing here, which is something I encourage everyone to do.
	He went to the Future Shop and left the latest episode of No Agenda playing on an iPad there in the shop.
	Great.
	Yeah, it's great.
	Just go ahead and turn that on and go to the Apple Store.
	That's a good place to do it as well.
	I received, John, I don't know if you received, I received a No Agenda 101010 Super Karma 42 package in the mail this week.
	Did you get yours by any chance?
	With all the little pins?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you know what?
	I'm looking at all the pins.
	By the way, a couple of them glow in the dark.
	Yeah, I know.
	It's great.
	It's noagendasuperkarma.com.
	And this is Sir Ernie, I believe, from, I think he's from Switzerland.
	Things are really nice, man.
	This is like, this is no joke.
	No, the pins are outstanding.
	They're beautiful.
	The quality is remarkable.
	I have my feeling about the various pins.
	I think the one that I would wear, I mean, I wouldn't mind wearing the in the morning pin, but the little number 42, I think, is really cool.
	That's really cool.
	Yeah, I agree.
	Because it's so obscure.
	Yeah.
	The dog tag one is so big and heavy that it drags my head down to the ground.
	You have to be a rapper.
	Yeah.
	You've got to be in hip-hop, John.
	Not rapper.
	We call them hip-hoppers now.
	You have to be a hip-hop guy to wear these giant...
	And they're trackable, by the way.
	I'm sure they got RFID. I went to geocaching.com and activated it, so it's now trackable around the world.
	Oh, they're trackable?
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	It's great.
	It's not like RFID trackable, but you enter where they are, and it's fun.
	It's a fun little thing.
	I love the glow-in-the-dark, though.
	It's awesome.
	Anyway, so that was nice.
	Quick shout-out to Ludolphus on Twitter.
	Who created a Xbox music channel audio add-on for the No Agenda show and a link in the show notes under PR. So now you can listen to the No Agenda stream.
	All four levels of it.
	The high, the medium, the low.
	And I guess there's a fourth stream that I don't know about.
	You can listen to that while you're playing your Xbox.
	While you're playing Call of Duty.
	You can hear us warning about not playing Call of Duty.
	Huh.
	We have a lot of good ancillary products and things that are going on.
	We do.
	Lots.
	I mean, it's not like one or two things.
	It's just like dozens.
	What did someone email us about?
	We have an ecosystem.
	Is what we have.
	Yeah, we have an ecosystem.
	Ecosystem.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	I like that.
	We got such an ecosystem.
	Yeah, very few shows out there have an ecosystem like ours.
	Or have an ecosystem.
	Like none.
	I don't know any other shows yet.
	It was Pierce Morgan's ecosystem.
	He doesn't have no ecosystem.
	So we want to thank our special executive producer, Baron Staven Pelsmachers, for becoming a member of the 1111111 Club.
	Again.
	Again, the guy is awesome, and karma to his family, and I think we also have a re-knighting of one of his kids that we have to take care of, Eric.
	Please take better care of Baron von Pelsmockers.
	Executive producer, Black Knight Kelly Spongberg, and associate executive producer, number of the 272 Club, Robert...
	Wiltshire?
	Yeah.
	And then also executive producer, associate executive producer, Stephen Liddick.
	We really appreciate what you guys have done.
	And Jared Forrester.
	Did I not have Jared Forrester?
	You didn't mention him, I think.
	You went from Wiltshire to Liddick.
	Okay, so when the show's done, let's make sure I get all this right.
	It was a little complicated today.
	You threw in an extra category.
	And Jared, okay, thank you very much.
	Everybody else out there, we need you to go out and do one very important thing, which is propagating the formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	Word.
	Order.
	Say it loud and proud with me now.
	Shut up, Steve.
	Okay.
	Right.
	So there's a lot of news.
	I don't know.
	You got more news than I do.
	I mean, I was watching a lot of C-SPAN. Yeah.
	And, uh...
	It's what was this.
	You don't have to.
	Happy about it.
	See, spin.
	Yeah, I was watching.
	I watched some C-SPAN. I caught a little bit here and there.
	I caught a couple of interesting...
	Weird new things that have happened recently in terms of advertising and such.
	Can I do an Ask Adam right off the top?
	Oh, well, hold on a second, John.
	I'm so glad you asked because we said that we had this new segment and I said we needed a jingle.
	Allow me...
	Hold on a second.
	I didn't expect this so early.
	Allow me to play a little montage.
	Hey!
	When John C. Dvorak's got a burning question What should we do?
	Ask Adam Ask Adam.
	Ask Adam.
	Will he know or will he won't?
	I don't know, but here we go.
	Ask Adam.
	Ask Adam.
	We have a great...
	I mean, we have an ecosystem here, John.
	We have, like, Sir Jeff Smith came in.
	We've got all kinds of people with jingles.
	So, yes, please feel free to ask me a question.
	Okay, I'm going to ask you this.
	It's very simple.
	Uh...
	When you think of pain relief, there's one thing that goes, it's a historic drug for pain relief.
	It's for a headache.
	Aspirin.
	What was it?
	Aspirin.
	Really, that's interesting you'd say that because apparently Bayer believes that the public now thinks that aspirin is only good to prevent heart attacks.
	Really?
	I'm going...
	I have to assume that from this commercial, which is this baffling Bayer aspirin ad.
	Let me set it up.
	This...
	There's a guy sitting in an airplane seat.
	And he's rubbing his shoulder or something.
	He's got a back...
	I don't know what's wrong with him.
	But something...
	And he bitches to the flight attendant that he's in dreadful pain.
	And does she have anything for pain?
	She gives him a box of...
	A box, by the way.
	I like to see that in an airplane.
	And...
	A box of Bayer aspirin.
	And he says, no, no, that's not what I want.
	And she has to lecture him because apparently the American public is so stupid that they don't know what aspirin is for.
	You can play.
	It's short.
	Do you have something for pain?
	Oh, Bayer aspirin.
	I'm not having a heart attack.
	It's my back.
	It works great for pain.
	Nothing's proven to relieve pain better than extra strength Bayer aspirin.
	It rushes relief to the site of pain.
	Feel better?
	Yeah.
	Thanks for the tip.
	Thanks for the tip!
	Thanks for the tip!
	What is the guy, an idiot?
	But here's the interesting thing.
	Next time you're on the airplane, ask the flight attendant for some aspirin or a painkiller, and she will say, I'm sorry, I can't give you that, because they can get sued.
	It's against the law.
	It's against the law.
	They can't give you an aspirin.
	So it's a double whammy.
	It's stupid.
	I have gotten aspirin from flight attendants, but you have to go in the back, and they have to sneak it out of their own purse.
	And they say, don't tell anybody I gave you this.
	Seriously.
	We all know the only pain reliever is this show.
	Well, John, since you asked me, and since I am not like the American public who has been indoctrinated apparently and only thinks that aspirin is for heart attacks, I actually know that that's really what I would prefer to have instead of ibuprofen or anything else.
	I like the old school aspirin.
	John, here's one for you.
	This is all I got?
	Yeah.
	Well, we can play it twice.
	That's okay.
	This segment is Ask Adam, not Ask John.
	Yeah, we've got a new segment here.
	Let me ask you, what political movement is it, what is the definition of a movement that seeks to organize a country according to a particular nationalist strand of corporatist values and perspectives with emphasis on enforcing a collectivist form of political and economic organization based on a tightly prescribed national identity?
	Fascism.
	Yes, very good.
	Oh my gosh, we don't have a payoff.
	Great.
	Now, let me ask you this question, John.
	If you invite the CEO of the largest corporation in these United States of Gitmo to be your economic advisor, is that not almost a definition of fascism?
	Well, you know what?
	Somebody's kind of like, it's probably more what we're dealing with is corporatism, which is a form of fascism.
	Yeah, I'd say yes to that.
	So, of course, I'm talking about the shadow puppet theater where the president got rid of Paul Volcker, who actually I think was a pretty good economist, a pretty good guy.
	Yeah, but he took too many naps during the day.
	Except for the sleeping bit.
	That was a little irritating.
	They kept falling asleep in every meeting.
	But he's been around for 100 years.
	The guy was tired, let's face it.
	And changes the name of the committee to...
	What did he change it to?
	The...
	I don't know.
	The Council on Jobs and Competitiveness, which is total crap.
	Competitiveness.
	And he announces this at the GE factory in Schenectady.
	So I'm like, wow, this is the current CEO of not only, I believe, our largest government contractor, our largest manufacturer, the company that, yeah, we make light bulbs.
	You're beating around the bush.
	No, I'm leading up to something.
	I'm leading up to Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont.
	No, he's an independent.
	Sanders is one of those guys, he reminds me of Kucinich, who every once in a while says something brilliant.
	Right, so this was actually December.
	So this is before the Christmas break.
	He says the following about Imolt, Jeffrey Imolt, now one step closer to the throne.
	And, well, just listen to this.
	He is, of course, one of our major corporations.
	And, in fact, as recent disclosure pointed out, the taxpayers of this country through the Fed provided $16 billion in bailout to General Electric during the recent crisis.
	This is what the head of CEO of General Electric, Jeffrey Inmelt, said in 2002, December 6th.
	Quote, Jeff Inmelt, head of CEO. When I am talking to GE managers, I talk China, China, China, China, China.
	Five Chinas.
	You need to be there.
	You need to change the way people talk about it and how they get there.
	I am not on China.
	Outsourcing from China is going to grow to $5 billion.
	We are building a tech center in China.
	Every discussion today has to center on China.
	The cost basis is extremely attractive.
	You can take an 18 cubic foot refrigerator, make it in China, land it in the United States, and land it for less than we can make an 18 cubic foot refrigerator today ourselves.
	End of quote.
	Jeffrey Inmel, Chairman, CEO of General Electric, quoted an investor meeting on December 6, 2002.
	Gee, when GE recently had, a couple of years ago, some really difficult economic times, they needed $16 billion to bail them out.
	I didn't hear Mr.
	Inmel going to China, China, China, China, China.
	I didn't hear that.
	I heard Mr.
	Inmel going to the taxpayers of the United States for his welfare check.
	So I say to Mr.
	Inmill, and I say to all of these CEOs who have been so quick to run to China that maybe it's time to start reinvesting in the United States of America.
	So that's just a little background on this great hero.
	So, of course, Jeffrey Inmill, great hero of the United States.
	And even our friend Bernie Sanders is off the mark a little bit because it's not about the manufacturing.
	60% of GE's manufacturing, of course, is overseas.
	A lot of it in China, China, China, China, China.
	That's what he said.
	China, China, China.
	But the big thing, of course, was it's GE Capital, which is a huge finance arm.
	And I don't know where he gets his $14 billion or whatever.
	It's actually GE in 2008 got a $140 billion bailout.
	$140 billion.
	That's huge.
	You know, I want to bring something up, just kind of an aside here, because it's ancillary, but at the same time, it's in the news.
	And I want you to continue with this.
	So this week, right after this happened, by the way, Keith Olbermann just basically walked off his own show.
	No, he was fired.
	I'm not so sure of that.
	Because there's no, actually nobody's confirming that he was fired.
	Everyone says he's fired and TMZ says he wasn't fired.
	He says that he was going to be fired by Comcast because they don't like him.
	I don't believe any of this is true.
	He's been sitting there stewing on this show.
	He's been mad ever since they took him off the show as they punished him for two days.
	Right, right, I remember that.
	For giving money to a Democrat.
	Meanwhile, it's no coincidence that Immelt all of a sudden gets his job at the White House and Immelt's really the guy behind his being punished.
	Showing outrageous corruption and collaboration between General Electric and the government.
	And so Obermann is publicly humiliated for giving some money to a campaign contribution to a couple of guys.
	I think he walked off the show because of this.
	It's possible.
	The timing is all interesting because we just had the head honcho from China here.
	China.
	We had the China man.
	Yeah.
	So all this takes place.
	Why don't we just sell our own country down the river to China?
	I think we are China.
	The way I look at it, we're all just China.
	China.
	Do a joint venture or something.
	Make the two countries one and get it over with.
	I think it's done as far as I can see.
	We are China.
	The other thing was, during this period, in the last week, and I don't have any clips to back myself up because the clips are a little too boring, it would be very difficult to edit down, but there were some China hearings in Congress, and they had a bunch of different people making all these commentaries, and one of the things, one of our representatives, a Republican from Fullerton, who the congressman is from down there, was talking about how American companies go to China.
	They buy into all the, oh, we're going to help you.
	You can set up shop here.
	And the people set up shop.
	And then all of a sudden, their leases are dropped.
	There's new regulations.
	They're kicked out of the country.
	Their employees won't show up.
	And the whole thing's a big scam.
	Well, now, wait a minute.
	So we can export our technology so the Chinese don't have to develop anything.
	They steal everything.
	So where does Eric Schmidt from Google fit into all of this?
	Because he just stepped down, which was also a very weird move.
	Because when you have a professional CEO like Eric Schmidt at Google stepping down and handing it over to Sergey...
	No, it was his partner, Larry.
	Larry.
	So it doesn't matter.
	Neither of those guys are CEO material.
	Larry's more so than...
	Sergey's more of a CTO type.
	Yeah, but still, I mean, I don't think Larry's any comparison.
	Well, we all know.
	I wrote a column about this in Market Watch.
	Oh, really?
	I should go read it, yeah.
	I discussed this in detail, and the fact of the matter is a known fact.
	Curiously, nobody else picked up on this.
	It's a known fact that Eric wanted out, and he wants to work in the government.
	Right!
	For China!
	Well, he wants to.
	What's going to happen, I think he's going to be the head of the CIA eventually.
	Ha!
	How beautiful would that be?
	Well, if you think about it, who's better equipped to be running a big organization that collects data?
	Either that or the NSA, which is even a better fit.
	They're already in partnership, Google and the NSA. Oh, that's great.
	Oh, he could totally run the...
	He flies jets, too.
	He's a hot guy, this Eric Schmidt.
	Oh, he does fly jets?
	He flies his own jet, yeah.
	Oh, I didn't know he was a pilot.
	Oh, yeah.
	Well, those guys are pilots at Google.
	That's why they got the 767, so Eric can fly a 767 around.
	No, he flies his G5. Yeah, well, I'm sure that's what he flies, but he probably is qualified for a 767.
	Guys who fly jets tend to want to get qualified for more and more jets.
	You hear that, Baron von Pelsmockers?
	Get me a jet.
	Rent is not enough, damn it.
	I need to be on par with Eric.
	Yeah.
	You won't even fly your other regular plane around.
	It's cost too much!
	No, it looks like it's sold.
	Yeah, no, I'm talking about the price of flying it around.
	It's just expensive.
	No, I can't afford that.
	I can't afford to fly a plane around anymore.
	Yeah.
	But Eric can.
	Oh, yeah.
	He won't even have to worry about it.
	He won't even have to fly his own.
	He won't even have to pay for his own gas if he becomes head of the NSA. Or, you know, the other job that needs filling is that Uber head of all intelligence job.
	Right.
	They've never found enough of a heavy hitter to take that job because they don't have a guy who's got even more information than they do.
	Well, they did find a new puppet to run the division of the SEC, the Securities and Exchange Commission that oversees asset managers and hedge funds, which of course is all about the tough new regulations that the Obama administration put in place on these horrible banksters that got us into all this trouble.
	So they found someone, John.
	Did you know that?
	Did you hear about this?
	They found someone to fill the position.
	It's a woman.
	It's all women who I think have held this position in the past decade.
	Her name is Eileen Roeminger.
	And, oh, well, that's interesting.
	Do you know where she worked for the past 15 years?
	Goldman Sachs?
	Bingo!
	I'm not just guessing off the top of my head.
	These formulas aren't that difficult to deconstruct.
	I don't.
	Yeah, 30 years ago.
	You just take a guess and you're right.
	She managed equity funds at Oppenheimer Capital and then Goldman Sachs before becoming Goldman Sachs' chief investment officer for its global portfolio management teams.
	And now, she's joining the agency.
	Yeah, that should make a difference.
	Yeah, it'll make a difference to Goldman.
	That's crazy.
	Didn't the president promise us that this wouldn't happen?
	That we wouldn't have this kind of revolving door thing going on?
	You know, I think he was searing that promise.
	And then when he finally got in office, it was so corrupt.
	It's like you can't find anybody else.
	If you find an academic that might be able to do it, they won't take the job.
	They have a horse's head in their bed the next morning.
	I mean, who knows?
	Anyway, to bring it all full circle, as I believe, yes, a corporatist and on the way to fascist states, GE CEO Jeffrey Immelt says, a Bloomberg article, quote,"...the interaction between government and business will change forever.
	In a reset economy, the government will be a regulator and also an industry policy champion, a financier, and a key partner." Well, that's fascism.
	That is fascism.
	It's almost taken right off Wikipedia the way he said it.
	Yeah.
	So, yay!
	Well, we knew this was going on or going to happen.
	I mean, I've been predicting fascism for a decade or more.
	This is the easiest way to do things.
	There was something I read, now that you mention it.
	What the hell was it that said this?
	Now I'm irked about this fascism because somebody...
	You think?
	You should be irked, yeah?
	Somebody brought up...
	Oh, man, I wish...
	Go ahead, man.
	Say what it is.
	I can't remember who the person is, but they made this weird comment, and I was reading it, or I was reading it, I'm sure, about how...
	Freedom and democracy are incompatible.
	And I'm thinking, why is that?
	Why is freedom and democracy incompatible?
	They don't go together well.
	So anyway, I'll do some follow-up on that.
	We can switch to a clip that's a short little clip that...
	Stand-alone clip.
	I don't know what it's about, why it even exists, but it's a constipation clip.
	And here we go.
	She felt lost until the combination of three good probiotics in Phillips Colon Health defended against the bad gas, diarrhea, and constipation.
	And it helped balance her colon.
	Ooh, now that's the best part.
	I love your work.
	Phillips Colon Health.
	Ooh, ooh, that's the best part.
	It's balancing your colon.
	Ha!
	You're right.
	I don't know.
	That is a stand-alone clip if I ever heard one.
	Stand-alone clip.
	There's nothing to say.
	Oh, that's the best part.
	That is absolutely the best part.
	When your colon is balanced.
	That's not funny, man, if you're constipated.
	No.
	But, you know, eat prunes.
	That helps, too.
	So I saw the rocket launch.
	Oh yeah, I wanted to ask about it.
	Did you forget to watch?
	I couldn't see it.
	Really?
	Oh my gosh.
	It was so easy once I whipped out my compass and figured out which direction to look.
	Because of course, Mickey would laugh.
	I'm always looking.
	I have no sense of direction on the ground.
	When I'm in the air, I'm okay.
	It's odd.
	Yeah, I know.
	But actually, I was looking east, west.
	I don't know where I was looking.
	But yeah, I mean, I could see the vapor trail clear as day.
	Oh yeah, the beautiful.
	Did you get to see where it breaks off?
	No, see, I could see the vapor trail.
	There was like a curlicue twist.
	And then, I guess, where there was a separation.
	And that was it.
	I never actually saw the rocket.
	It was impossible.
	But I mean...
	Los Angeles, and to see this thing at Vandenberg, that's pretty good.
	I mean, that's quite a distance.
	How many miles do you think that is?
	Well, it can't be more than 200.
	Well, so, but, and it was clear as day.
	I mean, it was like, wow.
	Oh, no, and they take off, I mean, for one thing, the vapor trail, which is more in vapor, smoke, too.
	Yeah, no, it's actual smoke, yeah.
	It's mostly, it's huge, and it's huge.
	And the last one I saw, it was obviously shot in a different direction.
	It came flying across, and you can see the little dot.
	All you get to see is a little, real bright pin, like a pin spot.
	Really bright little white spot.
	I couldn't see that.
	I had binoculars.
	That I couldn't see.
	That's too bad.
	I couldn't see.
	Anyway, so you see this thing going, and it's this huge thing, and it's going like a bat out of hell.
	This thing doesn't go slow.
	I mean, it's just rocking.
	I mean, the whole process is less than five minutes.
	And then you see just a break.
	All of a sudden, it stops dead.
	There's no smoke.
	And then, boom, there's more little trail of smoke, and it keeps going with a little gap, and then it's gone.
	Well, this was the second Delta IV heavy launch for the National Reconnaissance Office.
	That's the rocket you want to see.
	If you can get down to Vandenberg and watch one of those, that's apparently the rocket you want to watch take off.
	Because that thing just lights it up.
	It shakes the ground.
	It's a monster.
	And you're paying for it, so you might as well.
	Yeah, they let you watch.
	This was the largest rocket ever launched from the West Coast, John.
	Oh, wow.
	Most important, according to Mission Operations, Jim Sponic, most important is the critical NRO payload launch today, which will significantly enhance the effectiveness and safety of the brave men and women defending our nation every day.
	LA police?
	It's bad boys, bad boys.
	Today's successful launch represents the culmination of five years of hard work and exceptional skill in modifying the launch system to establish the West Coast heavy lift capability for the nation to integrate this important mission.
	Well, if they're going to start doing heavy launches off the West Coast like this, we've got to find some contact to get us down, because it's worth the drive to go to Vandenberg, to the observation area, which is, I think, on the side of a hill or something, to watch one of these things.
	If you're within a mile of it, or within, I don't know how many feet, how close they let you get, it's apparently just an awe-inspiring thing to watch.
	The launch.
	Yes.
	I'm sorry.
	Naked woman just came walking into the...
	We need...
	We should get the camera hooked up.
	We need to watch one of these things blast off.
	Because I think it's just a kick.
	We're paying for it.
	We might as well.
	Yeah, let's say...
	Somebody out there who listens to our show has a pal who works at Vandenberg and they should start playing the show.
	I forgot a really important clip.
	When?
	Yeah, I did.
	I got a 17-second clip that's so stupid I forgot this.
	Today?
	Yeah, right now.
	It's back to the Obama-Immold thing.
	Oh, you left a clip out?
	Yeah, I left a clip out.
	I had a point to make.
	So he was in Schenectady, I think.
	Schenectady, New York.
	And he's at the GE plant, boasting about how great he's doing for American business.
	And this little ditty slips out.
	That's why I traveled to India a few months ago, and Jeff was there with us, where our businesses were able to reach agreement to export $10 billion in goods and services to India.
	And that's going to lead to another 50,000 jobs here in the United States.
	So this whole speech is about how great he's done.
	Remember who else went with him to India in that junket?
	Deepak Chopra?
	Yeah.
	The head of the guy that makes the body scanners?
	Yeah.
	It's the CEO, Deepak Chopra.
	Oh, the other Deepak.
	Not the guy who talks like this.
	Well, he may talk like it, but the health guy.
	So on our dime, he went to India, and now the guy's taking a job at the Canada Post.
	What?
	Yes.
	He's now the CEO of Canada Post.
	The Indian guy?
	Deepak Chopra.
	The guy who Obama took along with Jeffrey and all hung out there in that huge junket that cost $200 million.
	Remember that?
	Yeah, I remember.
	Right.
	So this guy said, thank you very much.
	And then he went right to Canada Post and he's going to do some...
	He took the business to Canada.
	Interesting.
	Interesting.
	Lame.
	Lame.
	He should at least pay back his flight.
	Yeah, really.
	And expenses.
	Yeah.
	Well, I don't know.
	No, it's alright.
	It's not like Canada should be happy with him there.
	He's going to privatize it and screw him, but it doesn't matter.
	The whole point is...
	They've been privatizing things left and right in Canada that don't need to be privatized.
	Right.
	But the point for me was like, well, that's lame.
	The guy goes on our dime, flies over there, hangs out, does a deal, and screws us.
	Yeah, and exactly, takes us straight to Canada.
	Nice.
	So talking about Indy, I do have a clip.
	I actually have a series of clips.
	I didn't have time this morning to put them together so I could have actually some humor.
	What were you so busy doing?
	I didn't get up on time.
	The clock didn't go off.
	I pulled a curry.
	Well, you should try your iPhone alarm.
	It's really great.
	So, no, I have to go back and figure out.
	I think when I reset the clock, I think I put the AM to PM or some, you know, one of those mix-ups.
	So it didn't go off, so I wake up.
	Wait, hold on a second.
	Do you have a clock that doesn't communicate?
	We'd like the central atomic time.
	It's not connected to a time server.
	You have an old school...
	It's a clock.
	It's a clock that's plugged into the wall.
	It's got batteries in it in case the wall power goes out.
	Right.
	It's an old school clock that works.
	Unless I screw it up by flipping around the AM to the PM. User error.
	User error.
	So I wake up...
	It just happens to everybody.
	Sometimes you wake up on and off during the night a couple of times, maybe.
	But you usually don't wake up and sit up like, wait, something's wrong.
	Because your body has told you that you've slept too long.
	So it was like 10 minutes to 8.
	Oh, wow.
	So you get up at 7 to get my act together.
	That's why the clips came in a little late.
	So anyway, I pop up.
	You know, like, whoops, why am I waking up like this?
	And then I look over at the clock.
	Because your colon wasn't balanced.
	And I look, oh man.
	And so I just jump out of bed and rush, you know, downstairs to have something to eat.
	Make some tea.
	All right.
	So what was the clip you were going to tell us about?
	You've got something.
	In the meanwhile, there was a whole series of shows.
	I think this was on either Current or the Documentation channel or whatever.
	There's a documentary channel now, too.
	Right.
	And it was about carbon credits.
	There was a whole slew of stuff.
	I have a bunch of clips on carbon cap and trade.
	Yeah.
	Well, yeah.
	So this...
	So I'm looking at it, and most of it, it's up-temple saying how great it is and how Hollywood's going to make it happen and all this other.
	But meanwhile, they're just telling most of these scams.
	Yeah, well, wait a minute.
	Do you have a clip of someone saying Hollywood's going to make it happen?
	Yeah.
	Let's hear that, and I'd love to talk about this.
	This is very interesting.
	I don't have that clip.
	That's the clip I didn't put.
	I mean, I have it on, I can send it to you, but it's raw.
	Oh, that's disappointing.
	I didn't produce the clip.
	Well, what's the carbon credits from Dung?
	Well, that's...
	Isn't that what Hollywood is?
	Yeah, it was similar.
	So I'm watching this clip, which is carbon credits from dung.
	And apparently some companies packaged up...
	And I think, you know, they first...
	I'll give you the background.
	So what happens is they...
	Apparently in some part of India, they have a lot of dung.
	And so they take the dung and they put it in a big pit and they let it turn into methane and then they pipe the methane into the various houses in the neighborhood and the methane is burned.
	And they sell these carbon credits because there's a credit that you can collect because the dung producing methane produces so much bad gas, as it were, that's bad for the atmosphere.
	But if it's turned into if it's burned, you get carbon credits because the carbon dioxide is produced is so much less than the methane that you can trade it on the Chicago exchange, even though this has been going on anyway, and get money.
	So just play this whole clip and see how much money these Indians are making for poop.
	Let me give you the punchline to the whole thing right off the bat.
	These guys are trading these carbon credits so American companies who have cap-and-trade issues of some sort buy the credits, pass on the extra costs of the credits.
	I mean, in other words, some company will buy these credits from India, send them the money, charge the consumer of the United States of America extra money.
	money so we're essentially sending money directly to india for guys to burn dung burn the methane and you release co2 which is not ideal but co2 is 22 burn the methane and you release you need to get up on time dude what's wrong with your clips
	this is weird which is not ideal but co2 is 22 times less harmful to the atmosphere than methane so you still get lots of credits.
	All right.
	Okay, bye.
	John, your clip keeps repeating.
	Oh, I don't know why it's doing that.
	I'll try one more time.
	No, take it up a little bit.
	Alright.
	Burn the methane and you release CO2, which is not ideal.
	But CO2 is 22 times less harmful to the atmosphere than methane.
	So you still get lots of credits.
	But one sacred cow can generate only four carbon credits.
	So Kishore needs a lot of cows to make this thing work.
	Fortunately, there are quite a few cows in India.
	What we do is we identify projects here, develop them for carbon credits, and then we trade it on the exchange, the Chicago Climate Exchange, primarily.
	We think there's an enormous opportunity in India.
	We have a fantastic project.
	The poor, rural Indian family now has the source of energy for either heating or cooking.
	It's a beautiful project because it has social spillover benefits.
	These are sources that are highly sought after in the carbon market.
	Buyers increasingly ask a social angle connected to your project, and such projects clearly have a social angle.
	You have women and villagers collecting cow dung, putting it into a central facility, generating power, or generating heat and steam for that, and using it for their household chores.
	They don't have to go out and cut down firewood.
	So a carbon credit packaged by Kishore Bhutani and a bunch of farmers in rural India is brokered on the Chicago Climate Exchange and methane turns into money.
	But we were surprised when the bank official called us and we traded about a million dollars worth of carbon credits our very first trade.
	This is such an incredible scam.
	Tell me about it!
	It's unbelievable.
	So we had the news that a lot of people emailed us about was that about 30 million euros worth of carbon credits had been hacked out of an exchange.
	This exchange isn't even sanctioned by the elitist pricks who are trying to set this stuff up.
	Connie Hedegaard, who's in charge of all biodiversity for the European Union, She's like, well, this is a good thing because we're barring those guys.
	They can't be trading over here.
	That's not real.
	It's like everyone's making stuff up and trading it, and it's turning into money.
	John, we're so stupid.
	I think you and I said to each other two years ago, we need to get into this.
	We need to make our own carbon credit.
	And now someone's gone and made it from cow poop, and look at us.
	We're stupid.
	I know, and they got a million dollars from cow poop.
	And the whole thing, I watch this thing carefully.
	This thing has already been established.
	Apparently in some villages they do have these cow poop.
	It's like a big pit.
	Wait a minute, sir.
	The whole idea, they take the cow poop.
	Let me just get this straight.
	They take the cow poop.
	They bury the cow poop.
	They sell a piece of paper that said, I buried cow poop.
	And they take the money.
	Isn't that what's happening here?
	Basically.
	This is so wrong!
	This is so wrong!
	And then who buys the paper of the buried cow poop?
	Apparently idiots.
	There was a guy that was a follow-up story.
	I have all these.
	The reason for that clip being awkward, I think, is because...
	I don't know why that...
	I'll deal with that later.
	But anyway, there was another clip that showed this guy, this hapless do-gooder, some guy who was concerned about the environment.
	So apparently in Canada, you can buy your carbon credits.
	It's $28, like $28 for a flight.
	To offset carbon offsets for your flight from Toronto to Vancouver.
	Right.
	It's an offset.
	Right.
	So the airline has apparently purchased that?
	Or are they in the middle?
	They're middlemen.
	They sell you the offset.
	So if you want, the thing is voluntary, which makes me really wonder about people.
	But, okay, so I feel guilt.
	I'm guilt-ridden.
	I'm a guilt-ridden Canadian.
	And I feel that I'm going to chew up.
	I'm going to burn so much fossil fuel on the trip from Toronto to Vancouver.
	I can offset this by buying some carbon credits at the kiosk when I buy my ticket.
	It costs me about $28.
	So the guy, apparently the Canadians did a deal with some farmer, some guy who owns a bunch of acreage in BC, and he plants a tree for a couple of trees.
	Right, that's what we talked about, about planting some trees and selling the paper to people about that.
	So I sold the paper.
	Right, we did.
	We talked about it.
	We actually discussed it.
	We actually discussed doing this ourselves because we weren't getting enough from our listeners and we're going to quit.
	We had one meeting and look where it got us.
	We're now able to say, told you so.
	Well, anyway, so the guy, so this do-gooder apparently lives in B.C., and so he decided, after he paid his $28, to go check out.
	Oh, right.
	Very good.
	So he goes wandering around, and they show the film of it, and of course, this is an up-tempo piece kind of promoting it, but at the same time, every time they turn around, there's some scam.
	And then the guy says that these trees aren't going to grow, and he goes to this place where it's overridden by blackberries.
	And if anyone in the Pacific Northwest knows anything at all, is that blackberries just wreck the place.
	I mean, they're just terrible.
	So the guy, out of good conscience, bought some credits, and then he went to check on the credits, and it turns out it was bogus.
	No, they planted the trees, but the trees were dead.
	And so apparently this happened with some band, some rock band, who also, you know, I can't remember the name of them, but they apparently offset their concerts, and so they buy, they try to start a mango grove in India, which was supposed to offset their cause, and the grove died.
	And then apparently a bunch of Hollywood stars who are trying to sucker into this, because they're so stupid, They gave a bunch of carbon credits during one of the awards ceremonies and then it turns out there was another failed experiment.
	And so these guys who were running all these carbon credit operations, well, you know, we're still playing with the model and it's going to work out because we have to do something about global warming and on and on and on.
	This whole thing is an outrageous scam.
	And the fact that anybody's buying into it in any way is amazing to me.
	And it continues.
	Like that guy who went into the BC forest to see these dead trees.
	He says, well, I'll find some other way to offset my credits, my carbon use, my carbon footprint.
	I've got to offset them.
	Why don't we...
	First of all, we know that the number one resource that is eating up resources in the world and that is causing biodiversity is the human resource.
	Right?
	Everyone says this.
	So, of course, we're not going to kill people.
	But why don't we, with our no agenda human resources, set up a carbon credit?
	We'll all promise to not breathe for 10 minutes a day.
	Well, I don't know about not breathing.
	I think we can plant a tree.
	No, no, no.
	We just keep our mouths shut or we fart less.
	We keep our mouths shut and we fart less.
	And hold it in.
	And we can measure that.
	We can measure how much CO2 we're saving.
	I bet you it's a lot more than you think it is.
	And we can sell that.
	So if everybody spent, how long do you have to hold your breath?
	Well, a total of 10 minutes in a whole day.
	So you could do like, you could do 20 times 30 seconds.
	Alright.
	Anyone could do that.
	We have enough people.
	We could probably get a carbon credit or two out of that.
	We could make a credit out of that.
	We have to do the calculations.
	Some mathematician who listens to the show could do that.
	And we could trade that on the Chicago Exchange.
	Exactly.
	Or some guilt-ridden person who wants to fly from here to there.
	I'm telling you, the thing is you've got to market it.
	So you have to have a partner.
	I'm starting to see how this works now.
	You have to have a partner like an airline who is then going to be the middleman and sell it.
	No, they named the companies in this show.
	There's a bunch of these...
	That are the ones who sold the airline.
	They're the guys you want to get.
	Those are the people.
	It's like Carbon Credits, Inc.
	There's a whole bunch of weird little companies.
	No, no, no.
	We've become one of those Carbon Credit, Inc.
	We've become Human Resource, Inc.
	I think this is the mistake we made to begin with.
	I think this is a closed club of these guys.
	Well, no, it's not, John, because this is what I'm reading that the EU Climate Commissioner, Connie Hedegaard, she's saying these projects raise concerns relating to their environmental integrity, value for money, geographical distribution.
	It's not.
	It's out of control.
	They have no handle on it.
	People have jumped on this because we have all of these.
	You're right, the Hollywood celebrities who are selling it in, everyone's like, oh, I've got to buy me an offset.
	It's in.
	It's in the psyche, the biodiversity.
	It's all in there.
	People are ready for it.
	They just need the final bit of marketing.
	And we can do it all online.
	We can have some beautiful websites.
	And you're going to buy a credit to offset something.
	We just have to find what does everybody do that they need to offset so everyone uses their phone.
	Right?
	And that's a horrible...
	It's horrible for the environment.
	So we can sell the credit for using your phone, for using Twitter or something like that.
	I don't know.
	We can do this.
	We can do...
	Come on, John.
	We can do it.
	Yeah.
	Let's...
	Let's...
	Let's do a show!
	Yay!
	I'm going to show myself all by donating to No Agenda.
	Imagine all the people who could do that.
	Oh, yeah.
	That'd be fab.
	Yeah!
	I'm No Agenda.
	Well...
	We're already more than halfway through the show.
	What happened?
	Yeah, well, let's thank some human resources for...
	In fact, you know what, John?
	The answer is so simple.
	It's right in front of us.
	We should not be asking people to support the show.
	We should be asking people to buy carbon credits to support the show.
	Why don't we just...
	People can just buy carbon credits.
	And then they can take this and we'll give them stickers, certificates, all kinds of stuff they can show to their friends.
	And these people also go, yeah, that No Agenda show, that's good because it's good for biodiversity.
	You can buy carbon credits.
	We just sell the credits straight up.
	Who bought some credits from us, some carbon credits for this episode of the No Agenda show?
	Well, Lawrence McBride from Morton Merseyside.
	The UK 1-11-11, which is, we have a program now.
	You should check it out.
	Go to dvork.org slash NA and check out the 1-1.
	By the way, somebody pointed out in an email, one of our producers, that this is a weird year because we have four weird dates.
	We got 1-1-11.
	1-11-11, 11-1-11, and 11-11-11, which is what we're celebrating with the 1-1-1-1-1-1 thing.
	Right, right.
	And made mention that if you take the year, which is 2011, and add your birthday, how old you are.
	Mm-hmm.
	Is this one of those three cube things that you're going to screw up and I'm going to get a million emails about?
	I'll tell you what.
	We'll get to this later because I'll read it exactly because it's very interesting.
	But anyway, let's get back to this.
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	Can you please plug our firm site, Defend...
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	Really?
	Yeah.
	You should check her website out, shiatsrun.com, and I put it in the show notes, and we'll talk about that Vilsack, the FDA, I'm sorry, EPA shill from Monsanto.
	So now that every division of the government doesn't have to listen to Congress, they can make their own rules and regulations, and of course no one commented on the alfalfa, genetically modified alfalfa allowance that's coming up.
	We don't like that.
	Because no one knew it.
	Yeah, alfalfa's like a magical thing.
	I didn't know too much about it, but I started looking at it.
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	Douchebag!
	He's listened to the show for quite some time.
	I've told him for some time to donate.
	I'll call him out if he doesn't.
	Do something to support this show and he still hasn't moved on it.
	PFC Howard.
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	So that's where he's from.
	Patrick Griffin, Warren, Michigan, listening to the No Agenda show while playing poker has given me a lot of good poker karma.
	Oh, nice.
	I sent in a portion of last week's winnings, 55-55, just to say thank you.
	I'm sending in a portion of this week's winnings to help keep the karma cooking.
	Oh, hold on.
	Let me give him some extra karma there.
	I hope you get a big pot.
	You've got karma.
	Yeah, hit the big one.
	If there are any poker players listening to the show, I suggest you try tapping into some of the sweet no-agenda poker karma.
	Don't forget to tip your hosts.
	Yes, I wanted to take this opportunity.
	Tip your dealers.
	I wanted to thank John for adding more value to my valuing value for value philosophy.
	Okay.
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	In the morning, y'all, one-third of the way to nighthood and has a play on words in the CIA, Patsy, formerly known as Richard and...
	Patsy.
	Not a pasty.
	He's a pasty.
	The former CIA patsy, formerly known as Richard Nixon, I am not a douche.
	You've been de-douched.
	Well, that's...
	Hutner's been de-douched.
	Yeah.
	Rick Delishny.
	Yeah, we got him on the list for...
	Knighthood.
	No, for birthday.
	Oh, he's a birthday boy.
	No, his son.
	His son's a birthday boy.
	A greeting to his son, Bryce Dolishni, from Oshawa, Canada.
	Look that up.
	Where is that?
	He's turning 13 on 1-2-3, January 23rd.
	1-2-3.
	That's pretty cool.
	He's a hard-working PR associate propagating the farm with all the other kids at school.
	P.S. Thanks to Eric for the hard work getting our original challenge coins to us this month from founding producer Rick Delishny.
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	I've been there, by the way.
	I bought a very interesting cough syrup from Malmo, Sweden.
	The only one I've ever seen in my life that has opium in it.
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	So at last I'm now a donor.
	Please give me some retroactive karma to make sure I really get it.
	You've got karma.
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	Your demise is imminent.
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	Our biggest update ever as well as the new No Agenda section where 100% of the proceeds go to the show.
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	And please de-douche Jason Schrader.
	You've been de-douched.
	Since we called him out last year, he's got on the $33.33 a month and bought a challenge coin.
	He hit me in the mouth with it over Christmas, which means he obviously hit me.
	He challenged him.
	He challenged him.
	He challenged him, exactly.
	In the morning, you both will be following, hollowing out books.
	This is the guy who hollows out books.
	Yeah, these are really great.
	I love them.
	These are the best hollowed out books you've got.
	So go to freehollowbooks.com.
	These are books that have like, you know, it looks like an old book.
	It looks like a real...
	No, it is a book.
	I've got The Atlas Shrugged and I've got all kinds of Yeah.
	Secrets in it.
	It's an old, hard-found book, and you open it up, it's been sealed in such a way that it's got a big, empty area, and you can stuff money in it.
	Or other stuff.
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	Whatever you want to put it.
	It's one of those things that you see in mystery movies.
	He also has them for iPads.
	He's got hollowed-out books for iPads.
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	Freehollowbooks.com.
	Axel Braun in Ludwigshafen, Deutschland, in the morning from Gitmo Nation sauerkraut.
	This is my first time donation.
	$50 for a great show.
	Keep on doing the good work.
	I would appreciate some karma because I would soon have...
	You've got karma.
	I will soon have to be ESTA approved to be allowed to visit Gitmo Nation for 10 days.
	What?
	Yeah, this is a real problem.
	If you now want to travel to the United States, you have to get...
	I thought it was ETSA, but I guess it's ESTA approval...
	Remember we talked about this, now it's like you have to pay $40 per person, and it's like a pre-approval process.
	Aren't we trying to keep tourists out of the country?
	Yes, it's all for your securite, of course.
	No, it's horrible.
	It's a scam.
	It's outrageous.
	Remember, this is the system where I got messed up in the system, even though I have an American passport.
	Because if you don't pay your fee, your ESTA fee, then you don't get your boarding pass.
	They're linking it into the ticketing system now.
	It's abhorrent.
	Don't come.
	Stay away.
	Don't come to see us.
	That's what they're saying.
	And the way they should do it, if you're going to pull this bull crap, you do it the way the Chinese do it and the way these other countries do it, is you have an exit fee.
	Yeah, right.
	That's true.
	There's many countries.
	And if you don't pay your exit fee, you miss your flight.
	Yeah.
	That's the way you do it.
	What are they thinking?
	Exit fee.
	Many islands have that.
	Islands have a lot of that.
	Because you're like, oh, I'm so happy.
	Yeah, you're stuck there, and all of a sudden you get to the airport.
	$200.
	Like a family of four.
	$200.
	I know.
	You go to these countries.
	By the way, this is a warning for people who are not used to traveling internationally.
	But you go to these places, and you spend all your money, and all of a sudden you get to the airport, and you find out at the last minute there's an exit fee.
	Yeah, $200 for four people.
	I have no money.
	And you have to buy these exit little things.
	There's a vending machine, usually.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's great.
	Whatever little money you have left, you have to shove it in this machine and get this little card.
	And if you don't have the little card to this exit visa, the exit pass to get out of the country, they won't ticket.
	But I agree with you.
	It's really smart because you're annoyed when it happens, but you don't want to miss your flight, so you're all flustered.
	Like, honey, just use the credit card, and then you pay for it.
	And then by the time you're home, you're looking at the pictures, your videos, you've forgotten about it.
	Right.
	That's the way you do it.
	If you have to think about it before going, you're like, ah, screw it, I want to go.
	It's a pain in the ass.
	Yeah, it's a bad way to do it.
	This is our American government.
	Idiots.
	We're okay with you charging the foreigners.
	Yeah, we don't care.
	No, but do it on the way out.
	Do it right.
	Yeah, do it the way everyone else who's smart does it.
	Jeez.
	Yeah.
	Anyway, yeah, because this just annoys people.
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	It's very, very welcome, and we would be absolutely nowhere without it.
	Absolutely.
	We joke around, but man, do we really mean it.
	I mean it.
	I think John does.
	No, Pelsmacher is our one and two.
	Well, everybody.
	Even the $5 a month, I mean, it's starting to add up.
	I appreciate it.
	It makes a big difference.
	$5 a month is a huge difference.
	Yeah, we'd like to have more of them, but, you know.
	It's still 1%.
	All donations are still 1% of our entire audience.
	So you're all 1%ers, and we highly appreciate it.
	And some are boners, not donors.
	But, you know, you're pressuring people into doing it, and that's a good thing.
	By the way, we provide a lot of entertainment value and informational value and stuff that you guys can use in your cocktail parties.
	It's cheaper than a movie, and we do this a lot.
	I mean, we do it twice a week, four hours a week.
	It's great for commuters.
	If you're commuting, you're probably listening to the show now.
	And it's not like we're not doing anything for this.
	I mean, we don't want to take advertising, and we're not going to take advertising.
	We'll kill the show before we do that, but luckily people are supporting the show deliberately.
	Straight up and we appreciate that.
	And I think we got a lot more money this week or this show because we did a better show.
	I think it has a lot to do with the quality of the show.
	It absolutely has to do with the quality of the show.
	And I think last week's show was great.
	And I think that shows in our donations.
	And thank you very much.
	That's all I can say.
	And I can say this.
	It's your birthday, birthday.
	Oh, no agenda.
	See, singing also gets the donations up.
	That's scientifically proven.
	Rick Dalishny wants to congratulate his son, Bryce Dalishny.
	He turns 13 today on 123.
	Happy birthday from your daddy-o and from your friends here at No Agenda.
	And, John, I received an email from Audrey...
	And Audrey is, I guess, I think they're married.
	You know George Funderhorst, who was donated quite a bit.
	In fact, George, he's got the No Agenda coin.
	Audrey sent me a whole note from his account, by the way.
	She hacked into his email account to send it to make sure I saw it.
	He does the No Agenda stickers.
	He puts them everywhere.
	Whenever he's in the traffic jam, he puts them on the ferry boat, on gas pumps.
	he's a founding no agenda stream producer he calls pumps yes he calls his uh his kids midget slaves i.e mini knights and it's his birthday and she wanted us to send out a big happy birthday to him so we are happy to do that george thank you for your support and uh you know that audrey she's pretty cute man he sent me a little picture of the two of them there i've never seen her picture George, lucky man.
	And what she really wanted is if we could do a ringtone for George for his birthday.
	What would you like?
	I don't know.
	Do something.
	Say his name.
	It's always funny when you say his name.
	You just want me to say it?
	No.
	Unless somebody requests...
	She wants it.
	Audrey.
	George Van Der Horst?
	Is that a hard name to say?
	Well, say George Van Der Horst.
	Your telephone gaat.
	What?
	Your telephone clunk?
	Yeah.
	George van der Horst, your telephone gaat.
	George van der Horst, your telephone klucht.
	Hot pockets.
	I think that will do it.
	Okay.
	Thank you.
	I think that's perfect.
	I think she's...
	Is your telephone ringing?
	What does that mean?
	Yeah, it means your phone's ringing.
	Exactly.
	Huh.
	Huh.
	Okay, well, yeah, good luck with that.
	Yeah.
	So, um...
	Within a few weeks, according to numerous reports, John, we will have a second sun in the sky.
	Have you heard this?
	This is a report that's come and gone a couple of times.
	Oh, really?
	Does this have to do with Planet X? No, this is Beetlejuice.
	Beetlejuice.
	Beetlejuice is...
	I'm unaware.
	Beetlejuice is losing mass or fuel in its center and will explode when it runs out, creating a second sun in the night sky.
	This is a star, Beetlejuice.
	It's also a movie, but we know it as a star.
	Oh, there's a...
	Well, yeah.
	But is there another movie, too, besides the movie?
	I think Beetlejuice 3 might be on its way.
	However, when the giant star, which is much brighter than the sun, explodes, there will be no night for several weeks on Earth.
	This will be a supernova.
	What a crock of crap!
	No, but here's the tip-off.
	It could happen tomorrow, or in a million years.
	So, yeah, I think in Beetlejuice, the movie, there's already been a part two, hasn't there?
	It's got to be the third, Michael Keaton.
	Well, Michael Keaton's got his other movie coming out, too, the Ark movie.
	But a lot of people talking about this.
	And the Stargate is opening for sure now.
	The one with the fish?
	Yes.
	The earth is in upheaval in northeastern Africa.
	The region is changing very quickly, John.
	The desert floor is quaking and splitting open.
	Volcanoes are boiling over.
	And seawaters are encroaching upon the land.
	Africa, researchers are certain, is splitting apart at a rate rarely seen in geology.
	And this fracture is from the Red Sea to the Gulf of Aden.
	There it is.
	The Gulf of Aden where the Stargate is located.
	So you can just wait for it.
	They've got pictures of this now.
	They've got pictures of Africa splitting apart.
	Well, I think we should send the fishing boats from Japan into that area because the fish will be just coming.
	All kinds of weird fish.
	Well, I find it highly interesting.
	The earth is definitely tumultuous.
	I saw a guy on Hollywood and Highland yesterday, and he had a sign.
	I was too bad I was in the car, because I would have taken one of his pamphlets.
	He had a sign, the end of the earth, May 21, 2011.
	It's biblical.
	Is that what the sign said?
	Yeah, it's biblical.
	I interviewed these guys.
	I know, I know.
	I would have loved to have talked to the guy, and he had pamphlets, but he was on the other side, and I was in the car.
	You should have pulled over.
	It's not that simple at the corner of Hollywood and Highland.
	But May 21, 2011, apparently, is when the end is coming, according to my...
	And these guys, you know, hey, you're not standing out in Hollywood and Highland for nothing.
	You clearly know something if you're doing that.
	And that's dedication.
	And we do it two days a week.
	We do the show.
	These guys are out there all the time.
	You know, I've talked to a lot of these guys.
	Because when you finally decide to talk to one of them, you realize that many of them are erudite.
	They actually have a story to tell and it's reasonable.
	It sounds reasonable.
	I know, that's what I'm saying.
	It's absolutely reasonable.
	That's what's so weird about it.
	It's not like they're crazy.
	They are, but it's not like they sound crazy.
	Well, the thing that is disconcerting, and I also spoke to, I sent an email to our Baron, because he has some connections in the business and a couple other people.
	I think it propagated because Engadget got a hold of a NOTAM, Notice to Airman, N-O-T-A-M, that said that come February...
	In the southeastern U.S., the Defense Department issued a notice to airmen that GPS signals would be unreliable for about a month.
	What?
	Yeah.
	Oh, yeah.
	This is quite amazing.
	If you look at the map, it reaches from Alabama in the west to far beyond the coast of the Carolinas, all the way up to Virginia.
	It sounds like the Bermuda Triangle.
	Well, and it's interesting because this is what everyone was emailing me about.
	The Defense Department will be conducting tests between January 20th, so that's already underway, and February 22nd.
	And these tests will be activated for 45 minute periods, followed by 15 minutes of off time.
	And GPS signals may become unreliable at that point.
	Now there is another NOTAM, because of course now I went looking for it, and this is for the West...
	And this is for January 16th through the 23rd, so it just ended, centered in Porterville, California.
	Exact same thing.
	However, there's a little more information about this, is that apparently...
	The GPS is a very simple system.
	You've got satellites in the sky, and they send down a signal, and your GPS is just a receiver, and it has to locate at least three of them.
	I guess most of them these days get like 12 or 14, and it triangulates and knows where you are.
	Yeah, it can do a fairly decent job with two and a third one occasionally.
	So the only way to mess up GPS is by broadcasting on the same frequency Which is 1.57542 gigahertz and 1.22760 gigahertz.
	And so they're broadcasting on those frequencies.
	This is not a harp frequency because those are much, much lower.
	So I don't know what it is.
	Well, it could be a UWB test, too, ultra-wideband, which impinges on GPS numbers.
	But why would they do it?
	The FAA is not really saying what it's for, and no one really knows.
	And hopefully most airmen have indeed read this and know about it now, because it's messed up when your GPS don't work.
	I mean, a lot of pilots today have pretty much grown up relying on these things.
	Don't do much, you know, with the old steam gauges anymore.
	And it's quite dangerous.
	I think they're testing a communication system.
	Something.
	They're doing something.
	But the FAA really doesn't say anything about it.
	Just like, hey, we're testing.
	It's government.
	It's some defense department thing.
	I don't like that.
	Well, they'd have to test once in a while, and they'd try to make it so it doesn't impinge on too much.
	Porterville, I mean, who flies there?
	Well, no, but the circle is all the way San Francisco to L.A. I mean, it's a big circle.
	Oh.
	It's a very big circle.
	Okay, well, we'll keep that in mind.
	There were a couple of, let's see, I did have a couple of clips.
	I had a couple of real Gitmo Nation clips, which I thought would be interesting to share with the group.
	Did we mention Dvorak.org slash NA? Why don't you do that again just to make sure?
	Well, I'll make sure.
	I would like to encourage people to go to Dvorak.org slash NA and support the show.
	Or channeldvorak.com slash NA. Yeah.
	All right, so in the continuing effort to turn Americans against each other, and it's happening worldwide all across Gitmo Nation, fill in your own language.
	They could call it the Citizens Network, the Neighborhood Watch, as in watch your neighbors, BergerNet, you can call it a million different things.
	It's now expanded in Colorado.
	Yeah.
	You might say their job is commuting for other people.
	People who make a living putting miles on a car and visiting neighborhoods all over our communities are now a key element of the NeighborWatch program.
	9 News reporter Corey Rose explains.
	They're on the move all the time.
	They drive 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.
	So why not have them as an extra set of eyes?
	Denver is one of the first cities in the country to start the top program, Taxis on Patrol.
	We believe that this effort is going to assist us.
	By the way, this is a cop.
	He's got his sunglasses.
	He's not in uniform.
	He looks like a gangster.
	He looks like a total mobster.
	Making our community a safer place to live, play, and work.
	Four of the major Denver taxi companies are now teaming up with the Denver Police Department to be first responders when they see or hear anything suspicious while on their routes.
	We have an intense training program that we have developed for the cab drivers.
	We would like them to talk to our communications center and provide detailed information and description.
	Nice little train subliminal in the background there.
	On what they're seeing and exactly the types of services that are needed.
	After everyone is trained, there will be more than 1,200 drivers on the streets of Denver serving as a mobile neighborhood watch on wheels.
	Joining together to give back to the community.
	It's giving back to the community, John.
	Yeah, it goes like this.
	I give you a ride, I'm a cab driver.
	I pick you up, I'm dropping you off.
	Hold on a second.
	First of all, if you're really a cab driver, I can't understand you.
	Okay, well, you can't understand me, but you drop me off.
	I drop you off, and you short me.
	Yeah, right.
	Where's my tip?
	Screw you, man.
	Where's my tip?
	Oh, okay.
	Then I call the cops.
	It's a suspicious behavior.
	Some blonde-haired guy.
	I dropped him off at this address, and I think he's a terrorist.
	That's it.
	But they have a rigorous program in place.
	They've trained all these cab drivers.
	This is a nightmare.
	This is an absolute nightmare.
	I mean, Denver cabbies, I think a lot of them, last time I was in Denver, which is a while ago, a lot of them were Colorado born and bred.
	But Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York.
	They're all Pakistanis.
	Are you kidding?
	No, in L.A., they're, I think...
	Russian mob.
	Russian.
	They're Russian or Iranian.
	Oh, there's a lot of Iranians.
	Yeah, there are a lot of Iranian cab drivers here and there.
	It's like, this is just a nightmare.
	It's a nightmare.
	It's just ridiculous.
	I think this is a great program.
	I think it's great for our community.
	I think that people can feel safer in their communities knowing that you have extra eyes out there helping the police department solve crimes and keep our crime rate low and keep our streets safe.
	In Denver, Corey Rose, 9 News.
	Keep our streets safe.
	Yeah, it's good.
	It's really good.
	It's frightening is what this is.
	Well, I have a more uplifting initiative going on here in the Bay Area.
	Okay.
	It's a new school idea.
	Oh.
	We're always for education here at the No Agenda Show.
	Yeah, this is very educational.
	Did I hit it?
	Yeah.
	Smile, everybody!
	That's right, Smile!
	Students at AP Giannini School in San Francisco encouraged to smile at each other all day today.
	Today was Smile Day.
	It's part of Respect Week in the San Francisco Unified School District.
	You can wait, too.
	The reason for Smile Day?
	It makes people more approachable.
	Much easier, of course, to get along when somebody smiles and appears friendly and shows off their brace.
	You were smiling at about 150.
	Respect and smile.
	By the way, did you hear that in the background there's a kid like screaming in terror?
	Did you hear that?
	Yeah.
	They brought a camera to the school and the kids went crazy.
	Friendly and shows off their braces.
	You were smiling at about 150.
	I find it.
	It was back a little.
	It was really funny.
	For smile days?
	Yeah.
	In the San Francisco Unified School District, you can wait.
	The reason for Smile Day?
	It makes people more approachable.
	Much easier, of course, to get along.
	Yeah, there he is.
	Well, I think that's a good initiative.
	Yeah, you know, competition, there's no competition.
	There's a carbon credit in there and smiling, isn't there?
	There should be a carbon credit in smiling.
	We should probably find some way to sell it to the exchange.
	Let me go to Gitmo Nation, United States of Europe.
	Very interesting use of your soon-to-be European global tax money.
	The Sartre Project.
	Which is quite an interesting one.
	This is actually almost an Ask John segment.
	Tell me what's wrong with this idea.
	It looks like any other truck that just happens to have a private car very close behind it.
	But what is unique is that this truck is a lead vehicle for a platoon.
	The car in this platoon drives autonomously and communicates wirelessly with the truck.
	After more than a year and a half's concentrated work, these proud researchers here at Volvo's test track outside Gothenburg are able to unveil the embryo to what at some time in the future will be a road train.
	The lead vehicle is driven by a human driver and we're monitoring how the driver is driving.
	So we're looking at steering wheel angle and its speed and accelerations.
	And those signals are measured and communicated to the cars which are behind.
	And these cars which are following are driving autonomously.
	So they're trying to copy what the truck driver has done.
	But at the same time...
	So you get the idea, right?
	So a truck is driving, and then you have this system on board.
	You pull up behind him, you engage, and then your car basically follows the truck and does whatever it does.
	But then more cars can get behind you, and you're a train.
	Then you are actually a human train, and it gets better.
	Using sensors in the vehicles that measure distance between the vehicles.
	And this, of course, costs hundreds of millions of euros, this stupid project.
	So we have an extra mechanism for keeping a safe distance between the vehicles.
	I encourage anyone who listens to this show, get some money for a project like this.
	This is great.
	And, of course, it's all for biodiversity.
	The goal of this EU project is to make tomorrow's traffic both safer and more environmentally sound.
	Yay!
	As a driver within a road train, the idea is, in fact...
	Here it comes.
	What is the point of this?
	John, what is the actual point...
	Of this project.
	It's either to prevent global warming or to...
	I have no idea.
	Well, here it comes.
	To be able to both read the newspaper and eat breakfast.
	There you go.
	What?
	Yeah, so you can read the newspaper and eat breakfast.
	Why don't you read the newspaper before you go to work?
	My question is, if you have a car that is driving itself, like the Jetsons, why are you reading a piece of ink on the dead tree?
	Why don't you have the screen, have it really high-tech?
	Like an iPad falls out of the ceiling or something.
	You're reading the newspaper and eating your Cheerios.
	You stupid human resources.
	Next you'll be sleeping in the car.
	Yeah, that's what I'd be doing.
	Sleeping.
	That's what it's about.
	Be a human resource.
	Of course, when the truck hits something and everybody piles into it, that'll be another issue.
	What happens when it goes past a jammer?
	Yeah, right.
	So the radio signals are jammed for just a split second.
	The cars just go scattering every which way.
	I mean, what happens?
	I don't know.
	This is so hackable.
	It's ridiculous.
	And you know it's going to get hacked.
	You know, you just take car number three and ram it into a tree.
	I mean, this is not practical.
	These people are insane.
	They're just wasting money.
	Stealing.
	Stealing money.
	All right.
	I did want to touch briefly on that alfalfa thing.
	Yeah, talk about that.
	Yeah, this is kind of interesting.
	So, Tom Vilsack, who was a Monsanto shill, everyone knows he'd been shilling before he came into the EPA. So, essentially, tomorrow...
	A regulation will be pushed through to allow genetically engineered...
	In one sentence they say GE, the other one they say GM. So genetically modified, genetically engineered alfalfa to be legalized in the United States for use.
	It's like the USDA, I should say.
	I'm sorry.
	So they're going to do like a partial allowance of it.
	And Vilsack, of course, is the agriculture secretary.
	And so apparently they had this up for public comment on some website somewhere so you could say something about it.
	And of course no one knew about it, but the public comment period expires on Monday.
	And then they're just going to go ahead and do whatever.
	So the problem, of course, with alfalfa is that if you're growing alfalfa, and it's all Monsanto Roundup Ready stuff, by the way, and your neighbor is using the Roundup Ready version, of course, you're going to get contaminated, and then you can't be an actual organic grower.
	So there's a number of links in the show notes about this, which is quite interesting, but alfalfa is kind of a magical plant.
	I didn't know this, John.
	People take this for liver problems.
	Actually, it seems to be, you know, if your colon is unbalanced, alfalfa can help you.
	All kinds of amazing stuff.
	What do you know about alfalfa?
	I know that they feed it to animals.
	You know, let me bring something up that just came to mind.
	You're welcome.
	I'm a fountain of knowledge.
	There has been incident after incident where some poor hapless farmer's got some regular crop and then he's got a Monsanto crop nearby and the next thing you know they're cross-pollinating and Monsanto and these other companies, a number of them, sue the farmer for stealing intellectual property when they grow the next year's crop.
	When they replant it, yeah.
	Now, I don't understand this, and I think this could be an Ask Adam thing, but you're not going to answer the question because it's just essentially...
	Unanswerable.
	Well, it's answerable, but it's a call to action, which is why don't organic farmers sue?
	Not let get sued, but they should sue Monsanto for them...
	Are you kidding me?
	Are you joking?
	You're joking, right?
	They should sue Monsanto for contaminating and ruining their business.
	Who has that kind of money?
	You can't fight Monsanto anymore.
	They're too big.
	They've given money to more than half of the entire hill.
	You can't win.
	They should sue Monsanto for ruining their business.
	And when people...
	Do you know what a lawyer costs these days?
	John, this is the stupidest question you've ever asked me.
	It's not a question.
	It's a call to action.
	No one's going to do it because these little organic farmers, they're just like, they're trying to get by.
	Class action.
	Where's Erin Brockovich when you need her?
	She's getting promotion.
	I don't know.
	That's really what you need is an Erin Brockovich type person.
	But yeah.
	No, I don't think that's going to happen.
	They should.
	But you can still try and write in to the food democracy now.
	These people are all stooges for these companies.
	It's gone down.
	It's actually pathetic.
	You know, I had a clip here that I forgot.
	We should have played before the donation break.
	But I want to play it anyway.
	Unless you've got more to say about alfalfa.
	That's all I know about it.
	No, no, that's all I got.
	But it seems to be something very magical for you.
	And you can feed it to livestock.
	Yeah, and it's healthy.
	It's good.
	So I ran into this little thing from our national treasure, or one of them anyway, the NewsHour.
	No, this is not the NewsHour.
	This is the show, I think, Washington Weekend Review or something like that, where Glenn Ifill, the woman who wrote a book praising Obama, and she was also the head of one of the debates, and had to go and talk about how she wrote a book about Obama.
	Oh, right.
	Yeah, I remember she was moderating the debate and it was a controversy because she's a big Obama fan.
	So we're not going to get any objectivity from her.
	But I ran into this use of language.
	That I just thought was fascinating because what she's done here, and I don't know whether, I mean, she's a teleprompter, she's a talking head, so this had to be on the prompter, and I think she's one of those that writes her own copy.
	This is really a very twisted way of discussing the recent debate in Congress about repealing Obamacare.
	Okay, thank you.
	Can I do it?
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	Meanwhile, on the House side, they voted to repeal health care this week, which doesn't mean health care will be repealed.
	And Republicans said the law will kill jobs, but Democrats said it won't.
	In other words, it was a debate that took us through the political looking glass again.
	So, I'm listening to this, I'm going, what?
	This is not repealing health care, it's repealing the health care bill.
	She's actually saying repealing health care as if there's going to be no more health care because of those evil Republicans.
	I just thought this was the most twisted, subtle piece of crap I've heard for weeks on end.
	That's very interesting.
	Let me listen to that again.
	Let me just reset it here.
	Okay, thank you.
	Meanwhile, on the House side, they voted to repeal health care this week, which doesn't mean health care will be repealed.
	And Republicans said the law will kill jobs, but Democrats said it won't.
	In other words, it was a debate that took us through the political looking glass again.
	And I don't know if she's doing it purposely or if it's just gotten to this point where it's so crappy in the mainstream media that this is just what it is.
	I think I caught one similar to that.
	Sloppy.
	What is salt?
	Sodium chloride.
	Sodium chloride, right?
	It's not sodium, it's sodium chloride.
	Right.
	In fact, it is the salt of sodium.
	Sodium, pure sodium, is explosive.
	If you actually ate sodium, literally, you would explode.
	Your stomach would blow up.
	I mean, you literally would have an explosion, like a movie.
	Well, this is very interesting.
	So, First Lady Michelle Obama, in her own fascist way, has now connected the government to Walmart.
	As she came out, joining forces with Walmart for her healthy food campaign.
	It couldn't be with all retailers.
	It's only Walmart.
	I want to stop you right there.
	There's something going on with Walmart.
	There's been too much publicity.
	We have to get behind.
	Listeners out there, we're going to look into the public relations firms that have been doing Walmart.
	I'm convinced they have a new firm of late.
	And they're pushing this Walmart, Walmart, Walmart is good for you meme.
	Here's what I have to ask you, because both Walmart and Domino's Pizza, who have a new program, the Smart Slice for school pizzas, all talk about reducing sodium.
	By 35%.
	So you're telling me that we actually put sodium in the food.
	Not sodium chloride, but sodium.
	It says here, sodium.
	You're saying that we would explode if we ate actual sodium.
	Maybe there is actual sodium in the food.
	Maybe it's not sodium chloride.
	There's no sodium chloride for food.
	I'm looking at the packaging from Walt.
	It's a sodium salt.
	It says sodium.
	So it's mislabeling at best.
	I'm looking at the Walmart site right now, and it says we're reducing sodium by 25%.
	But they shouldn't be putting sodium in the food.
	Shouldn't they say salt or sodium chloride?
	Well, yeah, they should.
	And I don't know why it's always deteriorated to just plain sodium.
	I mean, it's the reverse of corn sugar.
	I think it's very dangerous when you don't use the...
	If you use either you say salt, which everyone understands.
	Salt.
	You have to reduce salt.
	Okay.
	But it literally says sodium and sugar will be reduced.
	Please, tell me you're not putting sodium in our food.
	But I think they might be.
	No, they're not.
	You'd explode.
	The oven would blow up.
	You used to do this in school.
	In the olden days when we actually had real chemistry classes and the kids could actually get a hold of this stuff, you can't do it anymore because now we just run around smiling and we don't really have classes.
	But you used to have, there used to be always some joker who would steal a chunk of sodium from the lab, from the high school chemistry lab.
	And it only takes a piece about the size of your thumbnail, a little block of it, a little piece of it about that size, and you go into the bathroom and you throw it down the toilet and flush the toilet as fast as you can, and it would usually blow up the entire school.
	I mean, not the school, but it would blow up the pipes.
	I'm looking at walmartstores.com slash pressroom.
	This is the corporate site, and they say they're going to reduce sodium by 25%.
	Sodium.
	Not sodium chloride.
	Not salt.
	Sodium.
	And I think sodium, it may explode stuff, but don't they use it as a preservative?
	I'm telling you, they're putting sodium in our food, and now they're laughing at us.
	They're putting sodium in our food.
	Well, why don't they say sodium chloride or salt?
	Or whatever other sodium compound they're talking about.
	It could be something else.
	I totally agree.
	But if it's pure sodium, this is what I thought.
	Thank you for confirming my fear.
	This is just sodium.
	Yeah, they're mislabeling it.
	It's the same thing.
	You're right.
	This is exactly where they're going to switch sugar.
	We see the progression.
	We know what it is.
	We go from high fructose corn syrup to corn sugar.
	They rename it because people are getting upset about the other stuff.
	And then they're going to rename it again to sugar, plain sugar, when it's not.
	And the slaves in the chat room...
	Are literally saying, ah, that's enough, move on, Adam.
	No, you have to understand words matter, because this is exactly what's happening.
	Corn sugar will become sugar, and it will be labeled as such.
	And now sodium chloride, NaCl, which is salt, which I believe is what they're telling us they're going to reduce, it's labeled as sodium.
	It is mislabeling at best, and I think it's important.
	I really do.
	Apparently.
	You don't think so?
	No, I think it's important.
	I'm not yelling and screaming about it, but yeah.
	It's become one of those things.
	It's the same thing that the sugar thing is going to happen to that, too.
	So, uh...
	Alright, you stupid slaves, go eat your frickin' sodium.
	Enjoy it.
	Adam gets mad at the chat room.
	Yes, because...
	I got a quickie here.
	Yes, I get mad at the chat room because they are sheeple.
	They are.
	Jerry Springer bumper.
	Play it real quick.
	Jeez.
	I'm really a woman.
	I'm not no lesbian.
	I'm the next Jerry Springer.
	Okay, that's enough.
	I had to be ready for that one.
	I'm not a little lesbian!
	Alright, one of our producers came in with a really good one, as we've been talking about.
	And actually, I think I have an end of...
	It could be an end of show clip, or we could listen to a little piece of it now, which is probably better, from On The Media.
	And On The Media...
	It's from our national treasure here in these Gitmo nation states.
	And they talked, there's like a seven minute piece, of which we will not play all seven minutes, about the color revolution in Tunisia, which they're now literally calling the Twitter revolution, as predicted on this very program.
	Oh yeah, we saw this coming to my house later.
	In New York, this is On the Media.
	I'm Bob Garfield.
	And I'm Brooke Gladstone.
	This is what popular uprising looks like.
	The protests over corruption and unemployment were sparked after a man set himself on fire.
	You might remember the song from the 1970s that said, the revolution will not be televised.
	More modern lyrics might read, the revolution will be tweeted.
	Amid the protests in Tunisia, there has been much talk about the activity of Tunisians online and the role that new media are playing in the uprising.
	Now, let me just restate that what we discussed, I think, Thursday...
	Is that the compromised social networking site Facebook, at least, Twitter I'm not sure about, but Facebook certainly with their CIA investments from In-Q-Tel, amongst others, and if you read the Time Magazine piece on Mark Zuckerberg Person of the Year, where the director of the FBI is just walking around the office...
	It's right in the article, like in your face.
	And of course, I want to mention one more thing just to add to that.
	As one of our producers pointed out, one of the early founders of Facebook was pushed out and the guy who was moved in, the ex-PayPal Peter Tile, is actually one of the members of the Bilderbergers.
	Right.
	So we've got the Bilderbergers, who, of course, John thinks is just a drinking club, except when it comes to this story.
	Now he's on board with it, which I like.
	Well, I like that.
	You know, I'm selective with the Bilderbergers.
	Very selective with the Bilderbergs.
	They have an agenda, and the agenda is, well, I think it's generally to stir unrest.
	And this seven-minute piece on our national treasure just blew me away.
	Some have called it a WikiLeaks revolution.
	I mean, Everything we talk about is in here.
	It's the WikiLeaks revolution.
	It's the Twitter revolution.
	And listen to what they say about Facebook.
	It's about a minute in.
	Distributing the unrest to leaked diplomatic cables about corruption in the Tunisian government.
	Did you know that?
	Yeah, coincidence?
	I think not.
	This is happening everywhere.
	Every country is selectively receiving cables.
	The Netherlands have it.
	They've got their cables about Shell, and Shell is horrible, and Shell is a slave driver.
	This is so intelligence-driven.
	It's ridiculous.
	It is completely intelligence-driven, and people are falling for it hook, line, and sinker.
	Others have called it a Twitter revolution because of all the social media activities surrounding the protests.
	But political scientist and foreign policy blogger Mark Lynch has assiduously studied the Arab press and says it's not so simple.
	Now listen, because now they actually...
	So take into account that John and I are pretty much convinced...
	That WikiLeaks is an intelligence operation.
	So listen to the flow.
	Listen to how it works and how they get the people involved in this to disrupt entire governments.
	And of course, it's the economic hitmen who benefit from this, and that would be, in many cases, our own intelligence forces.
	He says the Internet, social media, and Al Jazeera have collectively transformed the information environment in the Arab world.
	Welcome back, Mark.
	Thanks for having me.
	So, you've been following the evolving Arab media landscape for the last decade.
	What's the big change in that time?
	Well, there have been two big changes.
	One, of course, was the rise of Al Jazeera and satellite television.
	That had the effect of really making it very difficult for Arab governments to control the flow of information.
	And the next big change has been the rise of mass participation in social media, which has really increased the ability of individual citizens to circumvent all efforts to control the media.
	A remarkable portion of the Tunisian population is on Facebook, for instance.
	There you go.
	A remarkable segment of the Tunisian population is on Facebook.
	And they talk about Twitter this, Twitter that, but when it comes down to the tax, it's Facebook.
	So this is how it works.
	We get WikiLeaks to release some outrageous information about the regime we want to overthrow.
	Sorry?
	This is a new model.
	Yeah, no, it's a new model, but it's great.
	I mean, it used to be...
	Well, if you read the Confessions of an Economic Hitman, you understand the way it used to work.
	But now, the first thing, you get the WikiLeaks.
	WikiLeaks says something really disparaging...
	Whatever it is, something that will take people off.
	In the wings, we have backups for WikiLeaks.
	If WikiLeaks tends to go down for some whatever reason, they get shut down or something.
	So there's a bunch of these follow-ups.
	A couple of guys have already started a new thing.
	WikiLeaks goes down.
	So this model is basically the leaking model.
	It's a new element within the economic hitman model, which is fascinating to me.
	What I find fascinating is more articles.
	This Tunisia, and by the way, it's the jasmine revolution.
	Jasmine, is that not a reference to Chinese tea?
	Well, it's a reference to a flower.
	Right.
	It's used to flavor tea.
	Right.
	I thought that the Chinese drank a lot of jasmine tea.
	No, you know, they don't really drink.
	As far as I know, I mean, I've been to China a number of times.
	You have jasmine tea.
	They do drink a lot of jasmine tea, but it's not like...
	I don't associate that.
	I'm not associative with that.
	Interestingly, the article I read, the success of Tunisia's jasmine revolution, the first of its kind in an Arab country, has caught the world's attention.
	Chinese are watching closely, too.
	Internet users and Chinese commentators say the dramatic events in Tunisia are an inspiration for the Chinese people.
	Of course, the Chinese...
	I was in the supermarket yesterday, and I see that China's got their own Facebook.
	This is why China didn't want Google and Facebook and all these guys in there, because they need their own.
	Well, they know what's going on.
	I mean, we're not the only two guys in the world that can deconstruct and figure out what's going on.
	You'd be amazed.
	You would be amazed.
	No, I'm amazed that...
	But I'm also amazed by how many people have picked up on our ability to do this...
	And they do it themselves and they come up.
	We get a lot of letters from people with insights that we just miss.
	Absolutely.
	Like the Peter Thiel connection to the Bilderbergs.
	So next on the list, I think Yemen.
	They're now in a Facebook revolution.
	I don't even know.
	Does that much of the public do this on their cell phones or something?
	Yeah, but Facebook is a big mobile thing.
	It's not on the computer.
	All these kids are on their iPhones and stuff.
	That's how they do it.
	It's on the phones.
	Of course it is.
	And China, totally.
	By the way, the new meme running around on Twitter and Facebook about Tunisia is that 1.5 tons of gold is missing, withdrawn by Zin El Abedin Ben Ali.
	He took 1.5 tons of gold out.
	Yeah.
	Ton!
	In his rucksack, apparently.
	How do you get 1.5 tons?
	I don't know.
	I thought it was great.
	It's like 3,000 pounds of gold.
	Well, but at the same time...
	What does that go for?
	The Dutch National Bank was asked for an audit of their gold.
	And the Dutch bank said no.
	We, of course, discussed this about two years ago.
	There's a big fear now, too, that half the gold out there is tungsten.
	It's gone.
	There's a tungsten reference in there.
	Interestingly, the Financial Times...
	I had an article late last week called Brace for a Perfect Storm in Gold.
	There are changes afoot.
	Always nice to have a foot reference in there.
	After a lengthy absence, some asset managers and central bankers are readmitting gold back into the group of prudent asset classes.
	Assessing the devastation of financial industry and government balance sheets, fiduciaries have been reminded that one of the principal reasons to hold gold, that is the only major financial asset that does not represent someone else's obligation to repay, is not the arcane concept it once appeared.
	And that's the Financial Times.
	That's very interesting.
	Hmm.
	Said he who holds no gold.
	I just wonder what this is.
	That is meaningful probably because generally speaking at the end of a run up you want to get the people involved so they end up holding the bag when the whole thing falls apart.
	So you always try to get the general public.
	I mean, the eventual suckers in any financial game always has to be the general public.
	It can't be the guys who set these deals up.
	So when you start seeing stuff like that, I'm wondering whether that means it's the end of the run.
	Could be.
	Could be.
	Or just the beginning.
	It wouldn't be the beginning.
	Well, if it's the beginning of the run, they're going to get the public really involved.
	But I think it's more likely to be the end.
	Because the public creates...
	The great thing about the public is it's a massive group.
	group, if you could sucker them into getting on board on something, they create such a demand for it that that gives you the opportunity to dump like heavy duty dumping.
	You can't normally just like in any market, you can't just dump everything into the market like the Chinese can't dump all the treasury bonds because it will they won't get their money back because it sinks the market before they get rid of all of it.
	I don't think that I think they're buying more.
	And in fact, there's rumors they're buying more through chill companies in the UK.
	That could be, but that could also be a propaganda propaganda.
	That could be public relations.
	They might be buying anything.
	They might be selling for all you really know.
	You don't really know.
	So I just wonder when I see stuff like this whether it's the end or the beginning.
	I'm guessing...
	I don't know what I'm guessing.
	I'm guessing the end.
	So what you're saying is we're screwed.
	We're screwed anyway.
	And we don't know nothing.
	That's pretty close, yeah.
	And we don't know.
	We're screwed and we don't know.
	We do know that something's fake about this.
	Hey, Car Wash Johnny, what do you know, man?
	Car Wash Johnny probably has a better handle on it.
	But it seems to me, yeah, I think the Tunisia thing is a test.
	I mean, I think they tested in Iran with the Green Revolution.
	Yeah, that was not a big win.
	And they lost.
	So there's elements that are missing.
	They're trying to fine-tune this, they being the...
	Whoever.
	The economic hitman, the shadow government, whatever we want to call them.
	I mean, we don't know who they are necessarily.
	But the people that are doing this is who we can say.
	They are testing it.
	So now they have the model.
	So you have the Twitter, you have Facebook.
	It's a little mishmash, it seems to me.
	I don't think you need all these things mixed up like that.
	And you have the color, you have to have a representative.
	I've watched the Tunisian protests and they have these flags that are very well produced.
	They're jasmine.
	And they're jasmine and everything is too slick.
	For a popular movement.
	It's not like a bunch of people...
	No, no.
	It's real.
	It's beautifully done propaganda.
	Absolutely.
	Yeah, it's very slick.
	It's not like the Tea Party meetings where people make their own signs.
	It's obviously policed.
	You can't have that sign!
	Here, take this one.
	Have this good sign.
	This sign is better.
	This sign is much better.
	And we're getting the kind of play in the media that they're looking for and they have the memes of corruption and whatever.
	It'll be interesting to see how this one works out.
	Well, let's call the next country and the next color.
	Well, the colors are going to be tough to call, but we've already used up blue and we've used up green.
	And this weird jasmine.
	It has to have a nice sounding.
	Like the fuchsia.
	We haven't had a fuchsia revolution.
	Fuchsia.
	Fuchsia.
	Because it can't just be blue.
	It has to be...
	How about mauve?
	The mauve.
	No, that doesn't sound good.
	The mauve revolution.
	No, no, no.
	Teal.
	Teal.
	The teal revolution.
	That might work.
	Peter teal.
	I like teal because it also can have a duck.
	A duck is a teal.
	A lot of teals are ducks.
	Teal will be good because of Peter teal.
	And you've got Peter Thiel.
	So we have the Thiel Revolution.
	I like the Thiel.
	Let's predict Thiel Revolution coming somewhere.
	Well, but let's also keep Fuchsia on the books.
	Well, you're keeping.
	I'm skeptical about Fuchsia.
	Fuchsia seems a little...
	It sounds like something that would happen in the Castro District in San Francisco.
	Well, how about Jasmine, dude?
	Give me a break.
	Yeah, Jasmine's pretty bad.
	I think that's a mistake.
	It's working, though.
	The guy's out.
	And have there been any threes associated with the...
	I thought about the three thing.
	We talked about it before.
	Yeah.
	I've decided, because I have a clip, which I'll put on one of the shows in the upcoming shows if I can find it, where one of the heads of the CIA, who is also the head of the NSA, you'll remember, if I had his name in front of me, oh yeah, that guy.
	We have some colors from the chat room.
	Chartreuse.
	Aquamarine.
	Too many syllables.
	Fuchsia.
	We have fuchsia.
	No.
	Cyan.
	Cyan.
	Cyan is good.
	Magenta.
	Magenta is good.
	That's another good one.
	Crimson.
	Wasn't there already a crimson?
	Crimson can make a comeback.
	It's on its way in.
	Anyway, let me get back.
	So this guy, the guy says, well, you know, I have to be honest about it.
	I ran these agencies, but I didn't know half the stuff that was going on.
	I mean, there's all these little sub, you know, it's just broken up.
	It's almost like it's like Al-Qaeda.
	The intelligence community, because there's all these agencies, they don't know these little operations exist even though they're funding them, and there's thousands of them all over the place.
	You know, there's think tanks, there's research groups, there's a million things.
	So I'm coming to the conclusion because of this three thing that keeps cropping up.
	Double rainbow.
	We need the double rainbow revolution.
	Yeah, I'm sure the ice cream company would love that.
	Anyway, so it would also sound like Jesse Jackson would have to be behind it.
	So I'm thinking that the three thing is a message back to base.
	Oh, right.
	Just to let you know that all is well.
	Well, and to let you know that what you're seeing is part of an action that has been premeditated by an agent, an arm of the agency.
	And so you sent out some press thing, and since you had the media in your pocket, you just said, look, you've got to run this, 30,000 dead.
	Just run it.
	Just run that, and make sure it's that number.
	It has to be, but it can't be 30.
	This is the mistake.
	People have been sending me 300, 30, no, it's 33.
	It's 33, it could be 33,000, 33, 33.
	It's two threes next, at least two threes.
	If it's three threes, then it's really good.
	Yeah, okay, so the three, but it has to be two.
	And I think you might be right, because there's too many of these people with 33 dead and 33 shot.
	How about 33 victims now confirmed for the floods in Queensland?
	That just came out.
	Well, that's interesting.
	Yeah, well...
	That would be a confirmation of some initiative that is finalized, and we're part of it, and the 33s would tell them that, don't worry, it's us.
	Hey, boss.
	Car Wash Vinnie says, 33 cars clean today, boss.
	That's right.
	I think you're totally right, and we're keeping our eye on it.
	You know how many people have Google Alerts now for 33?
	We'll probably have our listeners.
	By the way, I'm working on a new system for people who really want to help produce the show because it's getting a little out of hand.
	Between shows, I now get 300 to 500 emails.
	Many duplicates, of course, which is okay.
	I appreciate it because sometimes you get multiple angles of a story and multiple sources.
	And then by the time you get the links from people linked to the BBC, then you know it's plateaued, right?
	Okay, everything else after this is going to be the same.
	But I'm working on a way that we can do it not through email.
	It's the most inefficient device I've ever used for this.
	It's horrible.
	I'm sorry.
	We lost you for a second there.
	We could use a bulletin board system similar to Dvorak Cage Match.
	No, it's got to be more structured than that.
	It's pretty structured.
	No, it's not.
	Dvorak Cage Match is a moderated forum.
	It's not structured.
	I don't like moderated forums.
	What would you suggest?
	I'm working on something and I shall suggest when I'm ready.
	Huh.
	I'm working on a tool.
	A tool.
	We need some tools.
	Just like the government has tools.
	I have a tool.
	Well, talking about tools, I do have a clip for the end of the show, or if we can play part of it now.
	Yeah, sure.
	Yeah, let's do it.
	It's a little long.
	I mean, maybe it's better, but you know that guy who had AQUSA? Yeah.
	He's had a very long speech, this character.
	I wrote his name down on the thing.
	I didn't bring it up here.
	But anyway, he's from Princeton, or Georgetown, and he's a professor, and he's talking about al-Qaeda and how they tap into all the public information.
	essentially what he's describing is what the two of us do, which is tap into all the intelligence that's being gathered and then reported on and put on C-SPAN and other venues.
	And he claims that Al-Qaeda is doing this so they can better understand how they can screw us.
	But he puts it, he says in such a way as though, I mean, how many guys does Al-Qaeda have working for them scouring C-SPAN?
	I think no.
	I think this is total bullcrap.
	I don't think Al-Qaeda is doing any of what this guy describes.
	But he's convinced that they have a head office someplace.
	Why don't we just bomb that?
	Finally, we see, as I just described, al-Qaeda existing and surviving because it's always been as opportunistic as it is instrumental.
	That this is a movement that has always been able to take advantages of opportunities simply by continuing to monitor, identify, and exploit gaps in our defenses.
	And this has been one of the keys to al-Qaeda's success.
	We tend to look at al-Sahab, the clouds, al-Qaeda's media arm...
	What?
	Al-Sahab, the clouds?
	Al-Sahab is a website that means, I think it means the cloud in some version of Arabic.
	Oh, that's great.
	So now for cloud computing, we can call it Al-Sahab.
	I guess.
	I have to look that translation up.
	Microsoft and Al-Sahab.
	But he claims they have a media arm.
	for its output mission, dissemination of propaganda.
	From its conception 22 years ago, al-Sahab has also had a very important input capability vacuuming strategic intelligence of its allies.
	And to give you two brief examples, we know for a fact that al-Qaeda has downloaded the websites of every major think tank in the United States.
	They are so sophisticated!
	It's called WGET. What are they doing it for?
	That's bullcrap anyway.
	They're not downloading anything.
	We know for a fact that they've downloaded entire websites.
	That's terrorism.
	If we know that for a fact, why don't we do some trace routes and find out where these downloads are going?
	Yeah, why don't you get their logs, man?
	And shoot them.
	Yeah, really.
	Al-Sahab.
	...times and especially those that have particular focuses or interests.
	Who is this jabroni again?
	He's a professor at Georgetown who teaches international strategy or something.
	He's the one who came with a...
	We know for a fact that Al-Qaeda is subscribing to the RSS feeds of WhiteHouse.gov!
	This is an outrage!
	...terrorism at Homeland Security.
	Secondly, we know for a fact that Al-Qaeda regularly monitors congressional testimony and hearings.
	Oh no!
	Just like those no-agenda guys!
	They're watching C-SPAN. Especially those hearings by the Homeland Security Committees of the Senate and House, the Armed Services Committee, the Judiciary...
	Is this not a move to turn off C-SPAN? I don't know what this is a move for, but it's bullcrap.
	It's frightening because it sounds like we need to be secret about all of our...
	First we hear that Al-Qaeda is a cell-oriented operation that is separate from everything.
	There's no central Al-Qaeda.
	There's no way this could be going on because the model that we've been told about Al-Qaeda doesn't allow for this sort of thing because then you could track it and find out the headquarters and kill people.
	So this is bullcrap by definition.
	What What happened to the Al-Qaeda guys on the monkey bars in the desert training?
	The guys in the caves.
	This is no good.
	The Cherry Committee and so on.
	Obviously, the Select Committee on Intelligence very rarely meets in open session.
	They watch the videos from them.
	They monitor the testimony.
	And, of course, this for them is manna from heaven.
	The heads of government agencies or departments sitting in a panel often subjected to withering, questioning.
	I'm telling you, John, this is the start of removing C-SPAN and making testimony secret again.
	That's what it sounds like to me from this professor.
	Well, there's a censorship angle to this because it is like, you know, here's what's going on and here's what they're doing and here's, you know, they're downloading...
	This is crazy.
	It's total crazy.
	Crutiny by congressmen or senators.
	They're asked to explain their mission, their assessments of how successful they've been in their mission.
	And they always say, we can't tell you.
	There's plenty of secrecy going on.
	They never come out and...
	Remember the whole underpants bomber hearing?
	We can't talk about that right now.
	We'll talk about that later.
	Tricks of success, how sufficient their budgets are, what their plans are, and so on.
	This is all information that al-Qaeda gathers to facilitate its operations.
	So what we can see is that al-Qaeda arguably is achieving each of its strategic objectives.
	And again, the fundamental conceit as well throughout history of all terrorists and insurgent groups is to avoid losing.
	And that, I think, is what al-Qaeda believes it's doing.
	It may not be winning, but it's also not losing.
	It still exists, and eventually they believe that time is on their side and that they will be triumphant.
	Yeah, I can kill you.
	That's enough.
	We have contact now with the al-Qaeda...
	What was the name of the cloud again?
	Al-Havra or something like that.
	I mean, Al-Sabab or something like that.
	Al-Basha, I need to remember now.
	Al-Qaeda existing and surviving because it's always been as opportunist as instrumental.
	That this is a movement that has always been able to take advantages of opportunities.
	Al-Sabab?
	Simply by continuing to monitor, identify, and exploit gaps in our defenses.
	And this has been one of the keys to Al-Qaeda's success.
	We tend to look at Al-Sahab.
	Al-Sahab.
	We have contact...
	Al-Sahab.
	I think it's Al-Sahab.
	I think he's saying Sahab.
	I think he's saying...
	He sounds like it at first when he says it the second time.
	Al-Shish-Kabab.
	Wait, we have contact now with the clowns.
	Is anyone in the chat room picking this up?
	We have Al-Qaeda Al-Sahab.
	Here we go.
	We have contact, John.
	I'm really a woman.
	I'm not no lesbian.
	Yes, we have contact with Al-Sahab.
	Oh my goodness, what is the world coming to?
	Well, you get points for that clip.
	What a douchebag.
	Totally.
	Oh my God.
	Alright, so there's tons more stuff in the show notes at NoAgendaShow.com in our handy structured data format.
	And make sure you check out the video from Jim Corr of the Corrs from Gitmo Nation Leprechaun.
	There are a lot of Gitmo Nation things that we didn't get to, which is kind of funny.
	BBC Police Chief wants a DNA database of people who are clients of prostitutes in Gitmo Nation East.
	Why?
	Well, so that'll deter you.
	So essentially, the hookers will have to give up DNA. Since you're giving them DNA... So you can be putting the DNA database.
	So you're going to swab the hookers?
	I think they can just take the prophylactic, John.
	I don't think you have to swab the hookers.
	So they're going to make the hookers document?
	Yes.
	Yes.
	What is wrong with the British public?
	Coming to you from Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California.
	Proud monitor of Al-Sahab.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And I'm in northern Silicon Valley.
	I almost got you there.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	We'll talk again on Thursday right here on No Agenda.
	I'm really a woman.
	I'm not no lesbian.

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