Of all people, you homeschool your kids, yet you put them on a leash.
Adam Couric, John C. Dvorak.
It's Thursday, August 26, 2010.
Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination, episode 229-er.
This is No Agenda.
Coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California.
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I'm John C. Devorak.
There we go.
Three times a charm.
In the morning to you, amigo.
Yeah, in the morning to everybody listening and all ships at sea and the human resources.
Well, gee, thanks, bro.
Everything I come up with, you now steal from me.
Nice.
Nice, nice, nice.
Well, hello everybody at noagendachat.net.
That's where, of course, the real party is during these live episodes.
And, John, I'm just slapping myself against the forehead.
Okay.
You know, we've been talking about eggs for the past two episodes, and this morning I turn on the television like, oh, of course, we could have known what it was about.
It was so simple.
It's about the food regulation, the food safety bill, which comes up for vote September 13th.
If only we had realized, I didn't have the congressional schedule in front of me.
Well, there's that.
The Food Safety Bill's point A, and the second point is Big Pharma.
Well, yeah.
Yes, Big Pharma.
They were talking about vaccines in the eggs, which, isn't that like a...
Not in the eggs, in the chickens.
In the chickens.
Isn't that like a fractal, though, because you have to have eggs to create vaccine?
Yeah, isn't that funny?
How does that work?
We have to have eggs to vaccinate the eggs.
And then I had another epiphany.
Of course, if we don't have enough eggs, now that flu season is right around the corner, guess what, John?
We won't have enough vaccines, so we'll have to put adjuvant back in.
I don't know if the chickens have put up with adjuvant.
Yeah, but for the swine flu, we're just going to have to.
So, I got the biggest kick out of the...
This week I listened to the Thom Hartman show.
Thom.
Yeah.
It's actually worse than ever.
Yeah.
And also Democracy Now, which is enough to make you want to shoot yourself.
Yeah.
Well, you know what...
But Thom had a couple interesting points.
He was really definitely pushing the Obama agenda and the vaccine agenda.
In fact, I have a clip about the chicken vaccine.
And the way that apparently the...
The left is going to push this is that it's going to be scolding us because the British apparently...
Why don't you play the Hartman clip?
We'll start off with a bang.
Okay, yeah, and I got another thing about that that relates probably.
Farmers in Britain started vaccinating their hens against salmonella more than 10 years ago when they were faced with a similar crisis to what we are experiencing right now in the United States.
That important step worked for the U.K. No more salmonella problem.
But when American regulators put together the new egg safety rules that were actually promulgated last month, under pressure from industry, they ruled that there was not enough evidence that vaccinating hens prevented illness, so they decided not to mandate vaccination of hens, even though that precaution would have cost less than a penny per dozen eggs.
A penny per dozen eggs, though, for a giant egg operation, adds up to a lot of money.
Amanda Cryer, director of the British Ag Information Service and Industry Group, said, quote, we have pretty much eliminated salmonella as a human problem in the United Kingdom, end quote.
Of course, the UK also has sound laws to prevent industry from dictating government policy.
Hello, ma'am.
I'm from the Egg Information Safety Center.
Did you hear that little disclaimer at the end of that clip?
Yeah, let's listen to it again.
The UK also has sound laws to prevent industry from dictating government policy.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, it's a beautiful thing.
Yeah, really, not at all.
Nothing going on like that.
Never, ever.
Well, there is...
Asshole kidding.
So this whole thing, you're right, it's, you know, and vaccines creep back into the conversation with this.
We've got to vaccinate our hands.
The word of the day, by the way, John, the word of the day, which will be at NoAgendaWord.com, is cloaca.
Cloaca is the word of the day.
Write it down and use it frequently in your daily language.
Yeah, that's when the day gets into the...
No, cloaca is a common cavity at the end of the digestive tract for the release of both excretory and genital products in vertebrates, except most mammals, and certain invertebrates.
Specifically, the cloaca is present in birds, reptiles, amphibians, most fish, and monotrems.
This is the hole that the egg comes out of that you taught me on the last episode.
Cloaca.
Latin word for sewer.
Is it really?
Yes.
That's great.
It is.
Origin late 16th century.
Sewer.
Hey, how's your sewer hole?
I have at least two friends that won't eat a fresh chicken egg.
Because of the poop.
Because of the poop.
Oh, stupid.
They'll eat an egg from Safeway.
Yeah.
Apparently laced with salmonella.
Yeah.
Yay!
Safe is Safeway.
But they won't eat a fresh chicken egg because I guess they, you know, they know.
I don't know.
I mean, I don't get it.
What's the logic here?
I don't know, man.
But I'm looking at CNN. I flip it on.
You've got Douchebag O'Daniels, whoever the guy's name is.
And now he's got a live reporter from the Solid Bowl of America, which apparently is California.
Because I guess all the lettuce and spinach comes from California.
Funniest thing, you see like 15 workers in the field gathering lettuce, and they all have their hoods up because they're all Mexicans.
You know, probably illegal.
They all got their hoodies on like this.
You can't see their faces.
And it's like, yeah, well, you know, this is also very dangerous.
You know, we need food safety.
Safety, I tell you.
We need to vaccinate our lettuce.
Vaccinate, vaccinate, vaccinate.
And...
Yeah, vaccinate.
Sorry I missed a joke.
Yeah, it's all right.
Good one, good one.
You know, a whole bunch of people, and I don't know if you actually saw it, I said, oh, you have to watch Penn and Teller's bullshit show about vaccines.
Did you ever watch it?
Oh, yeah, I got a bunch of people.
Did you ever watch it?
I watched the beginning of it.
I mean, I watched that show on and off.
It's, you know, he's basically, it's a very, you know, Teller, or Penn, I'm sorry, Teller never says anything, but Penn is a kind of a...
The Teller guy's got to shut up, man.
I'm sick and tired of him.
Penn is a, you know, kind of a neo-libertarian and...
You know, with pretty much a libertarian attitude.
But he seems to...
I don't know what the point of the vaccine thing was.
They're talking about, yeah, vaccines have stopped diphtheria and smallpox.
Well, it was the link between vaccines and autism.
That's what it was about.
And, yeah, I think the science is still not in.
You know, there's lots of discussion.
Like they said, even half the vaccine people think it's the mercury, so there's no evidence about anything.
So let's just listen to 40 seconds of that show, the most important bit.
Of course, you know, Penn and Teller are seen as folk heroes, very much like the Mythbusters.
So whatever comes out of their holes is the truth.
With autism.
In the 1920s, before the diphtheria vaccination was common, there were 13,000 to 15,000 deaths a year from that disease.
If you gut it, your chances of dying were about 40%.
In 1952, just before the Salk vaccine became common, there were about 58,000 cases of polio.
If you get unlucky, you might end up permanently disabled or dead.
Meningitis, hepatitis A and B, flu, mumps, whooping cough, pneumonia, coronavirus, rubella, smallpox, tetanus, chickenpox.
Chickenpox.
We have vaccinations against all of them.
Which side do you want your child to stand on?
So even if vaccination did cause autism, which it fucking doesn't, anti-vaccination would still be solved.
So I wonder if Teller or Penn actually thinks that the rotovirus vaccine is that important.
Yeah, or chickenpox.
Rotovirus vaccination.
Or chickenpox.
Yeah, chicken pox.
I'm sure he was a kid who had chicken pox.
I had chicken pox.
I remember having chicken pox.
I'm still here.
Actually, my son JC had chicken pox, which pissed off everybody in the family.
He had like one bump.
Oh, no.
I remember being quite itchy.
Yeah, I had a bunch of bumps on me.
Yeah.
But you don't need a vaccination for it.
I mean, it's not a life threat or anything, but rotavirus, what the...
Yeah.
So basically, is Penn telling us every vaccination that comes along, we should just take the shot?
Is that what he's saying?
Well, I think more interesting...
Vaccinate it?
More interestingly, he says, you know, what side of the debate do you want your child to be on?
I'm like, does he have children?
I don't think he has children, does he?
I don't know.
Not that I know of.
I don't think so.
So, you know, go make a couple kids and come back and we'll talk about it again.
Pen.
Pen.
Yeah, it does make a difference.
Yeah, of course it makes a difference.
No, it doesn't!
You don't have to have kids.
You don't have to be a chicken to know a bad egg.
Ah, the world is going crazy once again, John.
Crazy once again.
Although, I was in...
Mickey found this new health food store, which he dragged me to.
In L.A.? Yeah.
Gee, go figure.
There's a health food store down there?
And everything is $6.99.
Everything.
You know, sandwich, $6.99.
But most of the stuff consists of a plastic bag with stuff that looks like dried poop in it.
And I have to say, some of it is actually delicious, although unidentifiable as to what it is.
But at the checkout counter, I swear to God, John, I was afraid to take a picture, because I was sure he wouldn't even show up on the picture.
Jesus was standing there.
This guy must have been seven feet tall.
He had a robe on, a white robe, sandals.
He had the beard.
He had the long face, was paying with cash.
I was like, oh my God, he's here.
It was actually Jesus.
And I wanted to go up and say, hey man, I love your work.
But I didn't have the guts.
I love your work, man.
Great stuff.
Really good.
So anyway, I guess that's kind of it for vaccines.
Do we have any executive producers for this program?
Yeah, we've got two executive producers and an associate.
Nice.
Actually, the same as last week, essentially.
Okay.
Paul Couture.
Okay, Sir Paul.
Antioch, Tennessee.
Sir Paul.
Sir Paul.
Eric Gray from Fairbanks, Alaska.
Both gave $333.33, and there are executive producers.
And then Thomas Hitholler.
From Frankfurt.
Hitholler, yeah.
Hitholler.
From Frankfurt, Deutschland.
222.22.
It might be Hithailer, Hitholler.
It could be Hithailer, yeah.
I don't know.
That's nice, though.
We don't get a lot of...
We get a lot of Deutschlanders.
Deutschlanders is okay?
Well, good.
I have some Gitmo Nation Deutschland news today.
Well, we'll be thanking more people in our support segment, but of course...
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Thank you very much for supporting No Agenda.
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If someone ever brings that into any question, just call us up.
It's also listed on the internet.com.
Yes it is, so therefore it must be true.
The rest of y'all, especially you listening right now, we've got to go out and propagate our formula.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
Okay, audience participation time.
Stand with me now.
Shut up, sleep.
And the duck call was back.
So happy about that.
It adds a dimension.
No other show has that dimension.
No, this is true.
Hey, by the way, I want to thank you so much.
I'm going to be on Twit this Sunday.
Ah!
Yeah, it paid off.
Yeah.
Yeah, really.
And thank everybody else for suggesting this idea to Leo as well.
You can lay off now.
You can stop harassing him on his KFI show, which I'm sure he doesn't.
No, I don't think he's very happy with all of that.
We never told anyone to do that.
I've told you that.
And every time I tell him that, he gives me a look like, yeah, right.
That's going to be fine.
It's true.
Our listeners are pretty much freelancers.
They do what they want to do.
And so he said, do you only want to be on when John is on?
I'm like, no, in fact, quite the opposite.
I think it'd be much better if I'm on when John is not on.
Don't you think?
Yeah, I agree with that.
Yeah, I mean, otherwise we might...
I don't want to be on with you.
I talk to you twice a week is more than enough.
Yeah, and I'm still enjoying...
Most married couples don't talk four hours a week.
I'm enjoying not talking to you in between shows.
It's really paying off.
I'm like, oh, I get to talk to John for an hour or two.
That's enough.
That's more than enough.
Yeah, it works.
I don't even know if I wanted to ever do a third show.
That just might be too much of you.
It gets on your nerves.
It does, doesn't it?
Anyway, of course, this is the show where we have a little more news because we have an extra day in between programs.
And if you don't mind, I'd just like to start off with a little bit of Haiti.
Something really interesting yesterday.
Mickey and I went to San Jose.
Costa Rica?
Yes, exactly.
We are doing some stuff for a charity that we've done work for before.
San Jose, California?
Yes, San Jose, California.
Well, you could have checked in.
No, you know what?
I didn't feel like it.
I'm just going to fly.
We went straight from Burbank to San Jose.
And back, there's a day trip, which is really nice with Southwest.
It's like, whoop, whoop, up and back.
Perfect, like the bus.
Who needs a private jet?
I mean, it's perfect.
And this is Interplus.
It's a funny little organization.
They've been around for like almost 40 years, but essentially plastic surgeons go into developing countries and women and men, I guess, but mainly kids who have cleft palates.
They do reconstructive surgery on them because if you're in these third world countries and you're misfigured like that, then you're out of society.
No job, no nothing.
You're basically dog meat, dog food.
And so it's plastic surgeons that do this, and it's a really well-run organization.
You know me, I read all those reports and stuff, and so Mickey introduced me to them.
And so we started doing stuff, and we're going to be hosting their gala event.
Anyway, so we have lunch with the chairwoman, who is this fantastic southern belle, who is just an amazing woman.
And I say, so how come you guys aren't in Haiti?
Because Haiti is really messed up.
And immediately you see everyone's body language change.
I'm like, wow, this is interesting.
First of all, we're kind of like third-level responders.
People need food, water, shelter, etc.
And of course, Haiti has a lot of the type of injuries that their surgical teams can do a lot for.
Because people get arms chopped off and heads maimed and stuff.
So they actually could be of great help.
But she said something very interesting.
She said there's a huge problem right now.
With USAID and the Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton.
I said, oh really?
I said, yeah, so the way the rules work, if you want to get any money from USAID, so this is basically the taxpayers' money, or presumably money also funneled from the $9 billion they were supposed to receive, then you are obliged to set up a partnership with the local government.
Otherwise, they won't get you any funding, and everyone's having problems setting up a partnership with the Haitian government.
I'm like, huh, that's interesting.
And she said, this is a real big problem.
You know, no one can really get anything together with the Haitian government.
And then I see this news report from ABC, which I'll just play a little bit from, and I think I have a theory as to what is actually happening.
Recent natural disasters like the flooding in Nashville in May and the earthquake in Haiti at the beginning of the year.
So yesterday we talked about where things stand in Haiti seven months later.
It sparked a lot of questions from you about the recovery efforts, so we went in search of some answers.
On our journey back to the epicenter, we found almost nothing had changed.
In our report, we showed the thousands still living in ten cities, the orphans still homeless.
So many Haitians came up to us and they asked us, where is the help?
We remembered rock-throwing and utter frustration.
We also wondered about all the aid that came pouring in around the world.
Where is it?
Who is getting it?
We wanted to get some answers from someone close to the recovery effort.
So on Tuesday, we spoke to the U.S. Representative for the Interim Haiti Recovery Commission, Cheryl Mills, in Washington.
What do you say to someone who says...
So this is the government's spokeshole.
Listen to what she's saying and how she positions the problem.
There's $9.9 billion worldwide donated to this effort.
For those people who've sent in their money and they're saying, how's it being used?
Where is it?
Well, one, I want to encourage people not to forget Haiti.
Dollars are being well spent and they're not being wasted.
There are so many different needs that are in Haiti.
Whether or not you are charitable organizations on the ground like NGOs who are making sure that there is actually clean water, that there hasn't been a massive outbreak of illness because we've actually had the opportunity for having the kinds of vaccination programs that are necessary.
The road to recovery is long, but it is certainly one that the investment is worth it.
We met Wayne Elsey, whose organization is giving away shoes.
He told us about his shipping containers at the port.
We saw dozens.
Wayne said they could be used for temporary shelter for a family of 14.
According to him, the Haitian government is putting up obstacles.
Okay, so that's just the start of it, and the whole report is about how the Haitian government is not cooperating, they're no good, they're not making it easy, the help can't come in.
I'm like, duh, this is going to be used as the reasoning to overthrow the Haitian government and put the shill in.
This is the entire, just like, stop the aid, no money going in, nothing's going to happen because the government is bad.
And they're going to have to get these guys out, so you're going to see continuously now, I guarantee you're going to see these reports say, oh, we can't get the help in.
The help can't happen because of the Haitian government.
Because of the government.
Yep, because of the Haitian government.
Okay, so they're going to take these guys.
Here's the deal.
I'm going to put this on top of your prediction.
Thank you.
These two guys, and I believe you're right, this has got to be exactly what's going on.
It's all part of a scheme to build the big resorts and all the rest of it up on the north side.
They're going to take these guys.
For one thing, to do this kind of a scheme, you have to be able to get out of town.
Otherwise, you're going to get killed.
Because once the people revolt, they're going to go after you and they're going to hang you.
So these guys will sneak out in the dead of night.
They'll be taken out by some transport somewhere or other.
And they're going to end up in Switzerland.
Well, the last guys wound up in Africa somewhere, in some compound.
Yeah, but they were rousing for a different reason.
These guys are part of a bigger scheme.
You mean Preval?
Aristide was not going along with the program.
That was the problem with him.
Right.
Preval has always been the shill, right?
He's been in for a long time.
Yeah, so he's a shill.
So he's going to end up, this is my prediction, my prediction, Switzerland.
Switzerland.
Okay.
Good.
Because there's no way, you know, they won't take him, get him out of there, and he's going to be a happy camper and live in probably Gestalt.
Or in Zug.
Zug, that's the place to be.
Where all the name signs have ink after them.
So, yeah, I just thought it was interesting because no one is actually saying this on television.
It's like, oh, well, the money, it's being well spent.
Got some shoes.
Got some vaccines.
Meanwhile, people are dying.
Here's some shoes to eat.
Have a shoelace.
And suck on this shoelace, kid.
But really, what they're pushing is that the government is not cooperating, but I think that it doesn't seem that hard to figure out and report on the fact that...
You can't actually get any money unless you have cooperation from the local government, because that's how the USAID works.
And this umbrella organization of the NGOs, whose name I forget at the moment, they're really complaining to Hillary Clinton, Secretary of State, because they need these rules changed.
They essentially can't go in anywhere and help with anybody or anything because they get no funding unless the local government cooperates.
So, just an interesting little tidbit.
Yeah, when you get out of the house, sometimes you learn something.
Yeah.
Even in San Jose.
Go figure.
So I was at an event that's kind of interesting.
I have a clip, by the way, that I want to play before we take our hour break and ask for donations, which is the PBS promo.
Just play this so I can bounce off this for starters.
PBS is the place you should go first.
There are no advertisers to be satisfied, only an audience to be satisfied.
What?
Wait a minute.
Whoa.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
That's not okay.
That's a lie.
It's a total lie.
Shall we play the interview one more time from the CEO chairwoman of NPR? Okay, moving on to money.
How are NPR's corporate underwriting revenues holding up in the recession?
And what about foundation grants?
Okay.
Two different stories.
Underwriting is down.
It's down for everybody.
I mean, this is the area that is most down for us, is in sponsorship, underwriting, advertising, call it whatever you want.
Advertising, call it whatever you want.
So, interesting.
So, anyway, the idea here is that...
You know, there's this kind of full honesty and all the rest of it.
So I went to a thing at a...
Can I just play that promo one more time?
Yeah, you might as well.
I know you like it.
Ah, Jesus.
PBS is the place you should go first.
There are no advertisers to be satisfied, only an audience to be satisfied.
Bullshit!
The promo changed all of a sudden.
Wow.
Amazing how that happens.
So...
So I go to this theater.
They're going to have a sit-down with Shelley Berman, Robert Morse, and a local comedian, Will Durst.
And there's this kind of character that's going to interview them.
And he comes out before this whole thing, and he comes out and talks to this large audience in this theater.
And he says the whole idea is they're going to try to sell these interviews.
It's called Sitting Down with Comics or Comic Something or Other.
Wait, that's not the thing that's on Showtime now?
No, it's not on anything.
The Green Room or whatever?
No, no.
This is something else.
It's a rip-off, yeah.
Maybe.
Whatever the case is, it's very serious, you know, and it's very well, you know, it's actually well, kind of well done, except for the fact that this interviewer, you know, won't let these guys get carried away, or it's just restrictive.
But at the beginning of this, he says he's going to try to sell, he's going to make a series of these things, this is like the third one, or something like that, and they're going to sell it to PBS. Right.
So then he goes into the thing that, ah, I haven't actually witnessed this before, and I didn't get my recorder out fast enough to get most of it down, but I was actually kind of stunned by it, and I refused to take part.
I was there with JC, and the two of us sat there unflinching.
Mouth at gate.
Okay, so what we're going to do, we've got two cameras here, and we're going to do the two cameras on the show, but before that, since we like to get audience reactions, we'd like you to do a few things.
And then they turn the camera on the audience and says, okay, here's what I want you to do.
Reaction shots.
I want to get some reaction shots.
Okay, I want you to clap, clap, kind of, and then laugh.
Clap and then laugh.
Ready?
Okay, ready, go hit it.
And then he goes...
And he says, okay, okay, now we want you to, okay, we want you to laugh real hard for a long time and then start clapping.
And then he says, okay, I want you to give me a...
Everyone just chortle a little bit.
Just look at each other.
Look left and look right.
Laugh a little bit.
Look left, look right.
Okay, ready, go.
Ready?
He went through about five or six of these things.
Yeah, of course.
Because they couldn't afford more than two cameras.
They only had two cameras.
They only had two cameras.
So the fact is, and this is when you ever see any of these events on PBS, generally only on PBS, because the networks, they usually have an extra camera, or there's a guy with a handheld out in the audience roaming around.
Let me ask you this before you continue.
Did the guy have his script rolled up, and was he clapping that above his head?
Because that's usually what they do.
It's like, yes, and everyone clap!
Yes, here we go!
Yay!
Of course, you know, I refuse to do any of this because it's like I didn't want to be on there anyway.
So I'm not going to put the camera on this dud.
So anyway.
So when you watch the PBS... Yeah, you're not going to be on the show, needless to say.
You will not be singled out as the audience member.
Yeah, not going to happen.
No.
So you watch these things on PBS, and you'll see some comic up there, whoever it is, and he says something, and then they have an audience reaction shot immediately, and there's people yucking it up.
It's like as if the guy had the joke, and the guy doing the mixing in real time knew fast enough to hit the audience, and they got the guy yucking up, chortling, or looking back and forth and clapping or whatever.
Right.
But that's what all television is.
It's always been fake.
That's what it is.
Getting to the point.
For one thing, I've never been in the...
I've been in regular TV audiences and they have all the guys, the cheerleaders, they want you to do laughing, but it's all real.
This is all mixed after the fact.
This is done in post.
And it's a crock of crap.
And it seems to me that PBS, with this fake honesty...
And holier-than-thou attitude.
Oh, we don't do this.
Oh, we're the honest...
This is...
Yeah.
This is...
What?
Oh...
Hello?
You can play the pet peeve thing.
Hold on, hold on.
You know what?
All I heard was, this is, and then you cut out.
So do that, and I'm sure...
You're kidding!
No, I'm not.
Okay, well, let me say it again.
Yeah.
Ready?
Yeah.
This is dishonesty at its height.
It is unconscionable, and it's sickening that PBS is so-called great place where all this, you know, where we're going to be told the truth, and this is not the truth.
This is dishonest crap.
Yeah, the timing could have been better.
Yeah, well, you know, it's like I didn't know where you were going to end it up.
Well, but anyway, that's my point.
And so I was very annoyed by this.
Yeah, I can understand.
Wow.
I also had some media experiences this week.
I got to go to a table read of Family Guy.
Oh, cool.
Yeah, it was...
You were at the table?
I was not reading, but they have an audience.
You were the little audience around the table?
Yeah, so there's a little conference room.
Do you know 80 people work on that show?
I mean, you see how much work goes into that?
You would never, like, download it again without it being on Hulu or something.
You're like, oh my god, there's so much work goes into it.
But yeah, and Seth is there doing, like, 80% of the voices.
And I stole a script, too.
It's here for Bowden.
Maybe you should give that away.
I have a script from Family Guy that won't air until sometime end of 2011.
We can have a party and then talk along with the show.
Yeah.
I think there may even be rewrites after this table read, although it was absolutely hilarious.
And the funniest thing was there was a line in there where the R word came up, but they actually used the R word.
What was the reason that you were there?
One of Mickey's actor friends, her boyfriend, is a writer on the show.
Although this was not his particular episode, they have to fill up the audience with normal dudes, people who aren't in the business or won't laugh gratuitously at anything Seth says.
But it was an amazing experience.
So they do a table read with a little gallery so they can see what they think, what turns out to be funny, because they don't have a laugh track on that.
Oh, no, no, no, no.
They just listen to see if the jokes work.
They actually use audience reactions?
Yep, yep, yep.
And it's a conference room.
It's not like a gallery.
It's a conference room with folding chairs.
Oh, it's not that big.
No, no, no.
It was great.
And they do it in real time.
They start, they got one guy reading the narrative bits of the script.
We open, we come back from commercial, we open.
And it's real time.
No stopping.
It's go all the way through.
Don't even stop for breaks.
It's just like, okay, we're commercial break and we're back.
And then they keep going.
It was phenomenal to watch.
It was a lot of fun.
Anyway, not that anyone cares, I just sound like an elitist Hollywood bastard right now.
I thought that was the point to be made.
No, there's no real...
Yeah, my point was when you see how much work goes into it, people don't realize that.
These things are non-trivial.
People take a lot of stuff for granted.
Well, exactly.
And you see, it's 80 people.
You know, it's like, wow.
And especially because they're HD, now they're doing more animation.
And they send this stuff off for three months to Korea to fill in the blanks.
Yeah, it takes forever to get that show done.
Yeah, so...
Do they have any guest voices in the show?
No, not on this one.
But they do have...
I know they have Rush Limbaugh coming up.
Yeah, Rush Limbaugh did his already.
No, there's another one.
There's another one coming up.
Another one coming up.
I don't remember.
Anyway.
So, what else is going on the land of Gitmo?
Well, we have the continued attack every week.
I think we'll probably have a little piece on this, neoprohibitionism.
Yeah, actually I have quite a bit on the neoprohibitionism.
You want to go in that direction?
Because I can start off with my drunk driving news item that showed up on KION. Can I start off with the obvious?
And now, back to real news.
The obvious is Lindsay Lohan, who has been released from jail.
And she is now an outpatient.
You know what that means.
They haven't actually said it yet.
I haven't found it in any of the reports.
You know, they're all talking about, oh, she has to have psychological therapy and she has to have her pee tested twice a week.
But you know she's getting the shot.
You know she's getting the drinking vaccine.
And it's only a matter of time before they start talking about it.
She may even start talking about it.
It's a miracle cure, I tell you.
I'm no longer addicted to anything because I only have to get one shot a week.
Just wait for it.
It's coming.
Nah, I'm going to be highly disappointed if she actually takes the shot.
What do you mean, disappointed?
Well, I'm just going to take her out of the news site.
I mean, now she's going to be a spokesperson for this piece of crap shot.
No, I think they're going to force it on her.
I mean, she is going through the entire system that has been set up.
This, you know, got $4,300, don't drive drunk.
She's had the scram bracelet.
Now she has to pay for that, for the outpatient care.
It's not free.
It's not like a freebie.
You've got to pay for that.
Interlock on her car, I'm sure.
We just haven't seen it yet.
Although she doesn't have to drive.
So she's getting the whole treatment.
No, no, no.
I think this is a beautiful example.
In Nova Scotia, liquor stores are now going to ID all buyers, even if they look like you, John.
You get carded.
In Australia, some Gitmo nation down under, they're actually throwing a number on it.
We thought that this drinking stuff, you know, this alcohol was costing the state $15 billion a year.
It's much more than that money!
A new report on the harm caused by alcohol misuse in Australia claims the economic cost amounts to a staggering $36 billion a year.
That's more than double previous estimates.
The alcohol industry questions the accuracy of the report, but the people behind the research project hope their findings will lead to new measures to tackle alcohol-related social problems.
Hey, hey, hey, Aussies, you're screwed!
Yeah, I love it.
Oh, well, we have the report, and we hope it will help us make new measures.
Well, you know, I think there is a theme of just phoning up numbers and throwing them at people, and just as fact, and then somebody putting out a press release.
Just make it up as they go along.
Play drunk driving news.
Oh, hold on.
Here we go.
New tonight, a government study reveals that one in 12 drivers admitted to driving drunk at least once over the course of a year.
Thanks to these alarming statistics, the federal government is spending $13 million in television and radio ads to get the message out about the dangers of drunk driving.
Now, as Labor Day approaches, police nationwide will launch a two-week blitz of DUI checkpoints and drunken driving patrol.
Checkpoint!
Checkpoint!
So let's go over a couple of things in this report.
One in 12 drivers admitted that they drove around drunk over the last year.
What survey was this?
Yeah, it's a Pew study.
Hey, buddy, we're asking a couple questions.
Did you drive drunk over the last year, yes or no?
Uh, yeah.
I mean, I'm just not seeing that this survey ever took place, because most people would say no anyway.
It's like, what is this trick that they're trying to get?
I don't know.
No, no, of course not.
I'm looking at the reporting now.
Government study, this is usatoday.com, says one in 12 drivers.
It is a survey by...
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.
They are known as a survey organization.
Oh yeah, big time.
And then they said that we have a holiday, Labor Day, whatever it is that's coming up, I guess.
And so they always have a couple of checkpoints because God knows on Labor Day, everybody gets plastered.
That's the whole point.
We're not celebrating jobs, that's for sure.
They're going to have checkpoints for two weeks.
Wait a minute.
I plan on getting really drunk.
People get drunk a week before Labor Day and they stay drunk until the week after?
This is just basically an excuse to do a sweep, do a dragnet.
Get people and harass them.
And make money.
Look, I'm against drunk driving, obviously.
It'd be crazy not to.
These things are bogus because it's not just about drunk driving.
They'll get you for all kinds of tags or licenses missing.
Headlights are out.
And besides that, it's still harassment.
Unless you're weaving on the road and look like a drunk, the cops shouldn't even have to talk to you.
Yeah, this is very common, though, in Europe.
I mean, I grew up with the checkpoints for alcohol.
Very, very common.
You know, I've kind of gotten into the habit now when people are saying, Oh, I'm so glad smoking is banned.
Get your ugly smoke away from me.
Bad smoking, smoking, smoking.
It's like, yeah, you know what?
It's your alcohol next, buddy.
And it is.
You know, first they take this away.
You know, they came for my cigarettes.
They took them away.
They're going to come for your alcohol next.
And then the juice.
And, you know, there's this e-cigarette thing, which I've actually tried, and it's kind of cool.
It's...
It's like a plastic tube that resembles a cigarette.
It has a little charge in there.
It's a rechargeable battery.
And you put these little cartridges in, and they're laced with nicotine.
And essentially it heats up and it steams.
It creates a nicotine steam, which you inhale, so you get kind of your nicotine shot.
And when you exhale, steam comes out, but it has kind of that smoke feel.
And I have to say, it's a pretty nifty invention.
They're, of course, now being banned.
Ah, good.
Yeah, because the FDA feels that they've actually, the FDA started intercepting shipments.
I didn't know that they were now in the customs business, but the FDA has started intercepting shipments of these products.
They come from China, of course.
They say, hey, you know, we have the right to regulate nicotine, and you have to test these and make sure that people can't die from them.
It's like, you know, finally something is actually kind of good.
Which I think, it feels like it's a pretty good idea.
And now they're being banned, so you can't use those.
So...
I saw a commercial.
I don't have a clip of it, but it wasn't clippable because it was mostly visuals.
But it was about how all these poor kids had asthma throughout California, and secondhand smoke is making it worse, and they're going to kill all these kids.
And it was, I don't have the, I didn't write down the exact URL, but it was, it wasn't about, you know, it was literally about ending, it was something like end tobacco in California.
In other words, no tobacco products of any sort in the state of California.
That's the goal.
Get it all out.
It's about all tobacco products under all circumstances, inside, outside, in your own house, in your own car.
I'm not a smoker, so I don't care personally.
Illegal to possess.
Illegal to possess.
Absolutely.
And it's going to come.
It will absolutely happen.
You know what's going to end up?
They're going to legalize marijuana and people will be stuffing some tobacco into the joint.
Hey man, I rolled up some baccy in my weed.
That's actually pretty funny.
It could really happen.
Do I smell tobacco on you?
Son, step out of the car.
There's tobacco in that.
Yeah, step out of the car, son.
I smell tobacco in your weed.
Well, things are getting kind of nuts, as it now apparently, certainly in the state of California, the People's Republic, is legal for law enforcement to tag your car with a GPS device that can come into your driveway, clip this thing onto your car, and track you.
And this is now legal.
They've tried to overturn this in the Ninth Circuit Court.
And it's just not happened.
Law enforcement is allowed to tag your vehicle.
I guess you as well if they can get it on you.
Come onto your private property and put a GPS tracking device on you.
So what happens...
Say your house is protected by, let's say, motion sensors.
No, no.
You're asking the right question.
You're asking the right question.
They have motion sensor cameras and you catch the guy doing it.
You take the damn thing and put it in the house or put it on a dog or you take the device and you just steal it.
So first of all, they're saying that this law doesn't apply to rich people because if you can put a nice fence up around your house, then that's different.
So the law enforcement can't scale the fence.
They can walk up your driveway.
Yeah.
But look, if I saw this happening, if I had motion sensor cameras, I'd totally put it on a turtle or something.
I'd strap this thing to a raccoon or whatever, whatever I could get.
The neighbor's cat, I'd be like, hey, have fun with this, boys.
Here you go.
But of course, listening devices are next, and it's crazy.
We've gone nuts.
The thing has got to be small, so you could probably put it on a bird.
Yeah.
Wouldn't that be cool?
On a Mockingbird.
Yeah, a small falcon.
Yeah, I got a couple of those in the backyard.
No problem.
Someone sent me a picture of the Sunday Times in Gitmo Nation East, and it was beautiful.
I can't actually find the article online, unfortunately.
But it's a two-pager, and of course the Sunday Times is full color.
And you see a picture of a husband, he's bare-chested, he's a buff-looking guy, his kid is on his shoulders, smiling, wearing a rather oversized watch.
And I guess it's either his wife or his other kid.
I think it's his other kid also wearing a colored oversized watch.
And across two pages right there in the middle it says, Tag them to set them free!
your children without stifling them ed chipperfield tracks down five devices that let parents do just that and there's all these devices and these colorful watches and stuff that essentially track your kid that's like tagging your kid wow with uh let's see they have the icica family pack I don't know.
You can get a whole bunch of little watches to strap if you have more than one kid.
The Buddy Personal, the Loxu Nu MS, the Wireless Digital Child Tracker, the Cool Tracks Light, cool spelled with a K. It's a beautiful, beautiful thing.
And of course, everyone's like, yeah, it's a good idea.
And that dad looks like a perfect dad.
So I think I want to be like him and tag my kid.
Well, this is kind of...
Let me just read from the ICICA website.
ICICA Family Pack, the RF-10.
This is like for little kids.
It's like babies.
Handheld base unit can find a wandering child up to an amazing one-quarter mile away.
You can fart and the kid will still smell it from that distance.
It's bullcrap.
It's useless.
I guess it's handy if you're walking around here.
This would be, you know, a lot of times when a lot of parents have kids that like to wander off and when you go to the airport it's kind of frightening.
I love it when they have the kids on a leash.
I've done that.
No, no.
With which one?
Actually, with Jay, we had her on a leash for a while.
I am so against that!
That is so wrong!
There's a bunch of people that use this.
It works great!
The worst thing is to have the kid running, because these kids like to take off like a rocket.
Do you have a Zimmer frame?
What's wrong with you, man?
Hold on to the kid's hand.
I am so against this.
Whenever I see that, I give these parents scouring looks.
That's not okay.
Put your kid on a leash.
You had one kid.
So?
So my kid wandered off.
I kept my eye on her.
Put your kid on a leash.
What do you do?
Did you have a little shocker for when they left the yard?
Yeah, absolutely.
This is outrageous!
Of all people, you homeschool your kids, yet you put them on a leash.
I don't know, man.
It's a dichotomy.
They're little kids.
They don't mind.
They don't care.
So anyway, yeah.
No, they grow up, interestingly.
I'm not going to say anything about your kids because I love them.
And it turned out fine, obviously.
So apparently, in your case, there was no negative effects.
But it's weird.
You don't say it was more popular about 10, 15 years ago than it is today because of people like you.
Bigots.
Anti-leash bigots.
Yeah, that's right.
I just blew my second-hand marijuana smoke in her face so she would calm down.
Worked like a charm.
I never put it on a leash, though.
Let me tell you that.
So anyway, this seems like something for the...
At the airport, this might come in handy, or the store.
One of the things my wife pointed out...
Did you yank him back when, like, come here, like a yank, the little tug, so they could teach him?
They just get to the end of the leash, and they just stop moving.
You don't have to jerk them around.
It's not a choke chain.
Was it one of those with, like, a...
The kid in a choke chain.
Yep.
Yep.
Did you have a reel on it so you could let him walk a little bit and then reel him back in?
Is that one of those real dog things?
Maybe.
I don't know.
Did you carry a plastic bag around to clean up after them?
Did you carry a plastic bag to pick up their poop?
Alright, I'm done.
You had some good material there.
Not commercial, but it was acceptable.
Open mic.
It's open mic night here on No Agenda, everybody.
I'll be here all week.
So what happened, you know, Toys R Us has had, besides the fact that kids don't want toys anymore, they want video games.
But somebody came into Toys R Us some years ago, because we remember shopping.
Toys R Us used to be a kind of a warehouse-style toy store with these long aisles.
And so some bonehead that obviously never had kids in their lives decided to redesign Toys R Us.
So there's all these offset little cubbyholes.
Oh, nooks.
It was like a maze.
And so if your kid took one left turn, you would spend an hour trying to figure out where they went because you couldn't just go up and down the aisle seeing who was there.
Right, they'd be hiding in the nook.
There's nooks.
And so these idiots at Toys R Us put this crazy system together.
This Iseka family pack would be great in a Toys R Us if it works.
Anyway.
Whatever.
Whatever.
I'm still on the leash.
Hey, there's something that came out that I think is total disinfo, and I'll tell you why.
This is a video, you might have even blogged it.
It's about a Chinese company, and the name of the company is Blessed, B-L-E-S-T, blessed.co.jp.
And so this company, which is, I guess, a small company.
Well, JP's Japanese.
Yes.
Didn't I say Japanese?
No, you said Chinese.
Oh, I'm sorry, Japanese.
And this guy made a machine.
You put plastic into the machine, and literally you see him stuffing bottles and styrofoam and all kinds of plastic into it.
And then he turns it on, and it goes through a water filtration system, and out the other end comes oil.
And everyone's like, this is amazing!
This is so phenomenal!
Look at this!
This is oil coming out!
This is the saving grace!
Now we can change plastic, which is, of course, a petroleum product, back into oil!
And everyone's like, this is great!
This guy's gonna get killed!
This will never see the light of day!
And if you want, I can give you my take on it now, but this is going viral, and that's the purpose, by the way.
But first, I'd like to get your take on the concept of turning plastic back into oil.
Are you asking or are you going to play something?
No, no, I'm asking you.
No, you can't play it because it's Japanese.
I went to the website and there's this video and they're playing, you know, these kids jumping around.
Well, there's a video with subtitles which is not on the website.
Yeah, this one's a video with Chinese subtitles.
It's not very useful to me.
What's my take on it?
Well, I mean, this is obviously a...
It's a possibility that you could do this, by the way, because plastic is made from petroleum.
Yeah.
I think it just sounds to me like some scam the plastics business has gotten into to push more plastic on the public.
I don't know.
I'd have to think about it.
You have that page there, right?
Yeah, I'm looking at it.
You want me to comment on whether this is bogus?
Well, no, I'm going to tell you why it's bogus.
Oh, it's totally bogus.
I could tell you that right now.
Okay, that's the part I wanted you to comment on.
Well, they got the bubbling, because there's nothing going on here.
This has to be a high-pressure, high-temperature process of some sort.
It's bubbling through water, and it's a little bitty device, and this guy, this looks like bullshit.
Now, look at the logo on the video.
What does that logo say?
United Nations University.
Thank you.
So, let me tell you what's going on here, people.
This is a tremendously well-thought-out propaganda campaign.
To remind you that oil is not just what goes into your car.
It's a reminder to tell you that oil is in everything around us in our entire world.
You can watch this propaganda fire up very shortly.
People don't realize this.
I was having lunch the other day with a couple of friends in Mickey's.
And I'm like, you know, plastic.
It was a guy on the street.
Ban the bag!
Ban the bag!
I said, you know, do you have a bag?
I'll put it over your head and I'm going to tie it really tight.
Bags are handy for that.
So it's banned the bag.
But these two kids, actually they're not kids, they're young adults, they had no idea that bags were made from plastic.
This is an educational piece.
Oh, you mean they're made from petroleum?
From petroleum, yeah.
People have no idea.
How much of our world is made from petroleum products?
It's everything, including those plastic battery cars you drive, people.
Yeah, all the paint, all the TV monitors, your computer monitors, like 99% plastic in one way shape.
Oh, this is bullshit.
Here comes the whole feel out of it.
And then it's like, just because you have oil doesn't mean you can turn around and put it in your car.
It has to go through a process called refining.
And that's very, very, very, very expensive.
It burns in the front porch at this guy's place.
I know, and look at the black smoke coming off of it as he's burning it.
Yes.
So, this is a propaganda piece.
It's great, and it's nice to know, but this is not, I don't think this is actually a solution.
I mean, it may be, but how much power do you have to generate to melt this stuff?
Here's the giveaway.
United Nations.
That's what I said.
I looked at them like, it's United Nations University.
This has got to be bogus.
There's no way.
This can't be.
Like, yeah, we've got the solution.
We're the United Nations.
We're here to help.
United Nations University.
I never even heard of the United Nations University.
Yeah, they got a whole thing.
The website's in the show notes if you want to take a look.
Noagendashow.com.
God, there's too many websites to remember.
I am going to be right, though, John, about my zombies meme.
Hate to tell you.
I said more and more zombies...
And you said, no, it's going to be vampires.
Well, AMC coming out with a new series called The Walking Dead.
I saw a lot of that out on the loading dock.
Even tossed down the stairwell.
Not the ones they put down.
The Walkers.
They were seeing on the news some kind of virus. - Things got crazy.
Man, you won't believe the panic.
The broadcast stopped.
And that was the last we heard.
Anyway, so the premise is this is a cop.
He gets shot at a checkpoint shootout.
He goes into a coma.
He wakes up and everyone's dead and there are a couple of survivors.
A typical zombie story.
And everyone else is a zombie.
And it's a new series.
And it actually looks like a damn good series, I'll say.
It does.
It looks like a good series.
It's a winner.
My daughter just bought the book Feed.
Yeah, I'm telling you, I predicted this.
Zombies is it for 2011, totally.
I'm telling you, the next Twilight film is going to be the blockbuster.
If they could throw in some zombies.
But now they've got to throw some zombies in.
You watch, they will.
The Minneapolis City Attorney's Office has decided to pay seven zombies and their attorney $165,000, according to the Star Tribune from Minneapolis.
The payout, approved by the city council on Friday, settles a federal lawsuit the seven filed if they were arrested and jailed for two days for dressing up like zombies in downtown Minneapolis to protest mindless consumerism.
And they were arrested.
They arrested the zombies.
You know why?
They were walking in a stiff, lurching fashion, carrying four bags of sound equipment to amplify music from an iPod when they were arrested by police who said they were carrying equipment that simulated weapons of mass destruction.
What?
Yeah.
They were carrying equipment that simulated weapons of mass destruction.
Like what?
A bag full of amps, yeah.
Oh, that looks dangerous.
What is wrong with the police?
Well, there's a lot wrong with the police.
Well, not all police, but unfortunately, anyone in any kind of uniform, I'd have to say, is messed up.
And you know what the problem is?
They're getting paid too much money.
The idea of a public servant is a public servant.
It's not that they do things like, well, you work, you know, the old thing where I pay your salary.
Not really.
Nobody pays a cop's salary anymore.
The cops are making more money than you're making.
And so now they lord over everybody.
I'm making more than you.
You're a dummy.
Yeah, shut up, slave.
Shut up.
Speaking of, uh...
Speaking of which...
I'm gonna show my sword by donating to no agenda.
Imagine all the people who could do that.
Oh yeah, that'd be fab.
Yeah, on no agenda.
In the morning.
Let's thank a few people, and I have to say a few people, who have supported us this week.
Yeah, we didn't get much.
We'd like to get more, so I would encourage people to help us out a little more aggressively.
We do have somebody complaining about the fact that I forgot to mention their $75 donation.
I guess it was a couple weeks ago.
I never saw it on the spreadsheet.
But he wanted to call out a douchebag friend.
This is Rory's...
Rory Stone.
Although he signed off his name and his note as Rory Stone.
He wants to call his buddy Eric East, who's a free-loading douchebag.
Douchebag!
And he's got about two challenge coins.
He's going to give one to him.
Oh, that's nice.
But still a douchebag.
Yeah, but it's the gift that keeps on giving.
So, let's see.
We've got...
We've got Matthew Carey, Eastwood, South Australia, $100.
Brad Reiter, Wildwood, Missouri.
Missouri, sorry.
Missouri.
$100.
Ani Koski from Union City, New Jersey, 6261.
Pronouncing notes.
Ani.
Tony without the T? Oni, I guess.
Actually, I knew a person named Oni.
That's funny.
Really?
Oni LX. Lonely, Alex, John and Adam, I live here in Tokyo, Japan, decided to donate 55.10 yen, which comes out to 61.62 U.S. dollars.
I was planning on donating before hearing back about a job with the Guilt Group.
Unfortunately, I was a total douchebag.
Do you smell a...
Sorry.
What the...
What was that?
I suck.
And forgot to stock up on my karma.
Please de-douche me.
Oh, all right.
You've been de-douched.
Check out guilt.com, even though they didn't hire me.
If I start getting some steady work for onlix.com, I'll start my journey to nighthood.
Thanks for keeping me sane over here in the freest country I've ever lived in.
If you ever come to Japan, the hookers and blow are on me.
Let's see.
Who flies to Japan?
Let me just get some cheap tickets.
That's nice.
Thank you.
I appreciate that.
Yeah, Mike Potter, 5'10", double nickels on a dime.
Rick Bohm, B-O-E-H-M, Grove City, Ohio.
Mike, by the way, is from Lake St.
Louis.
Oh, I'm sorry.
These both were 55-55.
He's come up with a new meme.
Brandon Rowles, Pontiac, Michigan, 55-10, looking to get some karma.
He's been looking for a job for six months.
Ugh.
Great.
He wasn't saved or created, clearly.
Yeah, saved or created.
And Alan Martin, $50, one-time donation, might want to...
Before you pitch people a little bit more, I want to talk about saved or created.
I do want to play the Tom Hartman clip, the other one I have on the economy.
We play that right now?
Yeah, play it right now.
Okay, it's on the, here we go.
The Congressional Budget Office, the CBO, is reporting that the Obama administration's comprehensive stimulus package boosted the GDP by up to 4.5% in the second quarter of 2010 and is directly responsible for putting over 3.3 million people to work.
The CBO estimate shows that the stimulus effort may have prevented the sluggish U.S. economy from tanking altogether between April and June.
Economists surveyed by Reuters expect that revised numbers due out Friday this week will show that the economy had a sluggish growth of 1.4% during that time period, a number that would have been Depression-era negative and massively worse had the Obama administration not passed and put into place their stimulus measure last year.
Okay, so our show, we don't take, you know, government propaganda and just spoon feed it to you because we're big fans of Obama or whomever.
Whoever.
We're not fans of any of these jabronis.
And we'd like to encourage people to keep us going on this show because this show is 100% listener supported.
And I also decided, you know, there's some people out there that should be listening to this show that aren't listening.
And one of them, actually two of them, is the...
Koch brothers that own Koch Industries that they're being slammed by the left-wing media to an extreme because apparently they're the guys financing many of the Tea Party events.
And so now they're, by that, there are a couple libertarians that are billionaires.
There's got to be some listeners out there that can get to them and say, listen to these two guys on the No Agenda show.
David and Charles Koch are the two guys.
I would pronounce her name Koch, as in Ed Koch, but they pronounce it Koch, apparently.
And these guys need to be listening to our show.
They're two libertarian characters who are being basically taken apart by the left-wing media.
I'm actually going to do a special report on the next show about...
About how to deconstruct some of the stuff on Democracy Now, where they really went after these guys.
And I think largely because they're the money, or part of the money, or some of the money, maybe even a small part, for all I know, of the Tea Party stuff.
We need more listeners like that who might pony up something.
Yeah, I wouldn't mind some support from those guys.
Is it K-O-C-H? Yeah, K-O-C-H. David and Charles.
And what do they do?
What is their industry?
Coke Industries.
They own half the world.
They're the second biggest privately held company outside of Cargill.
Really?
And they own Dixie Cups and Brawny and a bunch of oil wells in Minnesota.
It's a little conglomerate.
They own lots of well-known companies.
Huh.
And they're being slammed because they're financing the Tea Party.
Of course, you were right in predicting that Sarah Palin is being pushed to the forefront there of the Tea Party.
Or I guess it'll be the Republican Tea Party.
It's going to be some kind of mind meld that'll go on.
Yeah, it's not going to be good.
Yeah.
Wow.
Well, so if the Koch brothers are listening, here's what you do.
You fire up your web browser.
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And head on over to NoAgendaShow.com.
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It's a thing called PayPal.
But we'll take your check as well.
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Even if you do that, we'd love for you to get on one of our monthly programs.
The $5 a month is...
I'd love to see Charles and David Koch on a $5 subscription.
Yeah, I'd mention them every single month.
monthly subscription we have the 33 33 which is the boarding pass for the mothership 1000 tickets available and i believe our boarding passes are going out this week john yep the boarding passes and they're numbered and you get uh there's a you get a zone you get a zone a boarding zone and there's also a um a disclaimer on it right if uh if we lose your luggage then you get some adrs i think or something or something Or nothing.
Or moon rocks.
Something like that.
Not sure.
That hasn't been written.
And I do not believe you have yet set up the 10-10-10 promotion.
No, I gotta do that.
I should do that today.
As you know, 10-10-10 will be a very lucky day.
It's a $42 deal.
Yes, $42.
It's for Super Karma.
Everyone's jumping in on this one.
10-10-10 or 1-0-1-0-1-0 is binary for 42.
42 is, of course, the answer to all questions in life and the universe.
As written in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, the number 42 is a very...
In fact, it's such an important number I'm thinking of getting a 42 tattoo.
That's how good it is.
Yeah, I'd like to see where you're going to put it.
Any tattoo would just be on my...
I think it should be between the thumb and the forefinger.
How about between my eyes?
How about a neck tattoo?
You know, I think when I put this page up, which will be shortly, I'm also going to allow for people who really want to swing for the fences and get a knighthood in the process to donate $1,010.
That's $10, $10, $10.
Well, we could also do a $4.20.
420.
Oh, I'll put it on there.
Yeah, because you get 42 is lucky and 420.
Well, we all know what that is.
Yeah, that has a double entendre.
Yes, it does.
Okay, so we'll have...
That refers to what?
Marijuana.
Legalizing marijuana.
Yeah, because it's 4.20, April 20th or 4.20 in the afternoon or in the morning.
It's always 4.20 somewhere.
That's when we all salute each other.
Even the former smokers like myself still observe 4.20 in the afternoon.
It's a kind of habitual thing.
So why don't we do a whole 10-10-10 page, John?
Yeah.
But I do believe that this is going to be a very karmatic day.
And it falls on a Sunday, which is even better.
So we'll have a show.
We'll have a special show.
Yes, and we're going to give everyone special 42 karma.
Everyone who has donated either the $42 or whatever else we come up with.
And numerology is important.
Our whole universe is made up of it.
So you can scoff at it if you want, but we have plenty of examples of people who have received good karma from their support to this show.
Yeah, and scoffing is good.
Absolutely.
So you were talking about...
Do we have any birthdays or anything?
No, no.
No nighthoods, no birthdays, no nothing.
Although my daughter's birthday is tomorrow, so I'll say happy birthday to her in advance.
She turns 20.
And next Friday is my birthday.
And I also turn 20.
Next Friday?
Yeah, next Friday.
You're turning 20 next Friday?
That's good.
So you mentioned the...
Or actually, Thom talked about the economy there.
Well, here it comes.
The big crash is about to happen.
First of all, I'm sure you saw existing home sales, which plunged, is the word the Wall Street Journal uses, 27%.
So this is people trying to sell their home.
It's like 27% less sales in previously owned homes.
Forget about new homes.
But the real thing that we've all been waiting for to happen is, and they're calling it, that word is back, Jingle Mail, commercial real estate.
They're just refusing to pay, even though they can pay their actual mortgages for malls.
In fact, the Taubman Centers, Inc., who, amongst other properties, have the Beverly Center in Los Angeles, just stopped paying their interest payments.
And they stopped paying their interest payments on the $135 million mortgage on the pier shops at Caesars in Atlantic City, New Jersey, which, of course, Atlantic City is kind of in the tank.
And a lot of these mall owners are just sending the keys back to the people who hold the loan.
Jingle mail.
Oh, here you go.
And we're just not going to pay it anymore.
Screw you.
They're not paying that mortgage.
And, um, it's funny because Tony Robbins, you know Tony Robbins?
Yeah, we talked about him the other day.
Where?
On the show.
Not on our show.
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
You sure it wasn't Horowitz Unplugged?
Yeah.
About his video message?
Yeah.
No, we didn't talk about it, John.
You and I did not talk about this.
Okay, well go ahead.
Well anyway, he made a, and I've followed Tony Robbins for many years, he made a video message.
He told everyone, hunker down.
I work with a lot of people in high places.
The winter is coming.
Yeah, no, it's a bogus message.
He's got a new TV show, this is why we talked about it.
See, I think you talked about it with Horowitz.
I think it was with Horowitz, it wasn't with me.
Anyway, doesn't matter, doesn't matter.
Whatever the case is, he's got a new TV show about him.
And so he comes out with this little viral video that's talking about everybody should...
I don't know what he's trying to say.
He's just saying all hell's going to break loose.
But this has been...
It may have been horror, because we also talked about...
Apparently, he's about the third guy who's come out with this gloom and doom crap.
Mm-hmm.
And one of them is in August.
The economy is going to collapse this month.
It's all over.
Harry Dent, that's his thing.
And then some other group came out with this.
Oh, God, you know, there's going to be the end of the world happening this month.
And then Tony Robbins comes out with this little thing.
She knows nothing about any of it.
And my wife gets all upset.
And she says, oh, my God, this is terrible.
What's going to happen?
I said, well, the one old rule is that when everybody's predicting gloom and doom, it never happens.
It just never happens, ever.
It's when things are looking good you have to worry.
Exactly.
It's like when we're like, hey, everything's great.
So, anyway, I was staying on this housing thing, and this was a report on CNN with some Dick's List, Rick's List.
There is a new meme, which I think I probably fall under, although I am not moving into people's houses as the bank.
So what's happening is the bank is repossessing houses everywhere.
I think this happens a lot in Detroit and other places that are really, really severely depressed.
And so the bank just keeps them empty because they don't want to sell it now.
They don't want to flood the market now with a whole bunch of really cheap homes, particularly now that existing home sales are down so much.
They would only depress the price further.
So people are squatting in these homes.
Yeah.
But they have a name, John.
And the name is Sovereign Citizens.
Sovereign Citizens.
And interestingly enough, a lot of these sovereign citizens are African Americans.
However, the report goes something like this.
They're accused of taking over foreclosed and bank-owned homes and posting fake deeds and other bogus paperwork in the windows to prove that they are the owners.
See that right there?
So somebody comes along, maybe an inspector, and says, oh, maybe I'm wrong.
Maybe these people really do own this house.
Except those papers you're looking at right there, they're bogus.
They're fake.
They're make-believe.
This townhouse belonged to a couple in the Atlanta suburb.
They were evicted.
But prosecutors say that they tried to take back the home with papers claiming that they're exempt from Georgia laws.
Now, take a look at this.
I want to show you something else.
This home has a tennis court and a pool.
It's worth more than a million dollars.
The group accused of squatting here allegedly took over a shopping center as well.
They even charged rent.
Prosecutors say these people are called, are you ready for this?
Remember this word.
I've been looking into this now for the better part of several weeks.
Sovereign citizens.
Sovereign citizens.
Part of a growing movement who believe that the laws of the land simply do not apply to them.
Okay.
So, I guess I mispronounced it.
I guess it's supposed to be sovereign citizen.
That doesn't make any sense.
Remember this now.
Sovereign citizen.
The guy can't even read English.
It's sovereign, douchebag.
Can I bring in another...
By the way, I have a clip on some of this, but I have also another interesting point that some people...
I guess this wasn't in the report, but one of the more interesting...
Well, there's more to it.
I want...
You can...
Please, feel free to say something, but I do have an expert...
Standing by who's going to explain who sovereign citizens are.
Do you want to play that first or do you want to make a comment?
No, you finish yours because mine's going to go in a different direction.
So, John, let's bring in an expert to find out exactly who these...
And remember this word now.
Remember this word.
Remember this word.
Sovereign citizens.
Mark Potok, Studies and Citizens for the Southern Poverty Law Center.
As a matter of fact, I read your magazine two days ago when I first got it, or when I got it this edition.
I love how he tries to cover this up.
He's like, I've been looking into this for weeks, and I got your magazine two days ago.
I mean, the most current issue, because of course I read your magazine all the time.
I saw that they were on the cover, so you guys have really been drilling down on these folks.
Who are they?
What's their M.O., Mark?
Well, their MO's pretty varied, actually.
This business of seizing homes illegally is a new twist on many, many kinds of scams that have come out of the sovereign citizens' movement.
People may remember Terry Nichols, the co-bomber of the Oklahoma City federal building was, in fact, a sovereign citizen.
This is an ideology that goes back all the way, about 30 years, to a group called the posse comatitis and actually was initially white supremacists.
We hate black people, right?
In its nature.
But, you know, basically what the sovereigns say is we are immune to federal and state laws.
We are not liable to have driver's licenses.
We don't have to register our cars and so on.
And we smoke weed!
A whole set of extremely fantastic beliefs, and it might be amusing other than the fact that they are doing things like seizing these homes, like stealing very large amounts of money, and in a number In other cases, murdering people, in particular police officers.
Wait a second.
This thing went off the tracks immediately.
I know!
But it gets better when he says, oh, and by the way, they're actually black.
Yeah, you have white supremacists that are black.
You gotta listen to it.
It's like the old-fashioned anarchists that you and I used to read about at the turn of the century, for example, which came, as I understand...
What?
He says we used to read about him the turn of the century.
The turn of the century.
Well, you know, he's being correct to speak this century.
You mean like...
Yeah, exactly.
And from a different place, right?
I mean, those guys came from the left.
Sounds like these guys are from the right.
They steal money.
They have no driver's licenses.
They're white supremacists.
They're murderers.
Yeah, they're definitely from the right.
I wouldn't really describe them as anarchists.
I mean, this is a very specific set of beliefs that says there's no legitimate power above the level of county sheriff.
But isn't that what anarchists...
I mean, I'm not trying to be argumentative with you, but anarchists believe, to hell with the government, to hell with power, to hell with anybody telling me what to do.
I live my own life.
Sounds like these people are saying the same thing.
How are they different?
Sure.
I mean, there's some similarity.
I mean, the way they're different is anarchists, you know, back in the day were very much against capitalism, any kind of money economy, and so on.
It was all about very local, small communities.
These people aren't community builders at all.
These are people who want to be utterly free of any obligation to other human beings.
And they're also, at least many of them, are coming at it from a very right-wing perspective.
As I say, it originated in a kind of racist ideology about how black people could not be sovereign citizens.
Only white people had that relationship with the land, and the idea essentially was that God gave America to white people.
So they want to...
In Atlanta and around Georgia now, these are actually black groups now in Atlanta that have adopted this ideology.
Okay.
Alright, so they steal homes, they steal money, they murder people, they are like the guy who blew up the Oklahoma City building, they're white supremacists, and they're actually black.
Yeah, that story makes a lot of sense.
Eric DeShield actually was in the chat room, and he made a very good point.
And this movement of squatting in homes is because the banks repossess these, or they kick people out, but they can't actually prove ownership of these homes.
Well, here's the thing that we've noted that's been going around that I want to discuss, which is the fact that these...
These various banks have been bought and sold and bought and sold, and these huge piles of mortgages are packaged, and they go from place to place to place.
And now there's a lot of people just saying, I own the place.
Prove me wrong.
Yep.
Where's my deed?
Yeah, they don't have the deeds.
That's exactly it.
They don't have the paperwork.
Yeah, because they don't know where the paperwork is.
It's been sliced and diced.
Exactly.
Hey, you know what?
Screw it.
I'm going to go squat me a house.
You should.
I'm going to become a sovereign citizen.
I'm going to become an upstanding black American and go seize me a house.
There's also a law of the land meme in there, by the way.
Oh, please.
This is just outrageous.
Well, here's our local news coverage of the housing bullcrap.
And if you listen carefully to this report, it doesn't make any logical sense, which is pretty typical of what we're getting now when people are trying to analyze things.
They can't sell it for any less because then the money they have left over to live in the area, even up in Petaluma or Santa Rosa, won't be enough.
Oh no, the Twit Cottage?
I guess not.
But there are homes for sale everywhere in Marin, one of the nation's most desirable places to live.
San Francisco based Trulia.com tracks housing prices nationwide.
Inventory levels have skyrocketed to twelve and a half months worth of inventory when five and a half or six months of inventory is more like what we'd like to see.
And that's the highest inventory level in more than a decade, even though interest rates are at record lows.
Interest rates could be zero and people will not buy homes if they don't have jobs.
They will not buy homes if they don't feel that their jobs are stable and secure.
Earlier this year, housing was looking up and sales were strong.
But cancellation of the home buyer's tax credit from Uncle Sam ended that boom.
But truly, as Nelson says, there's a bigger problem.
High unemployment levels and unemployment levels that just don't seem to be changing very much as the months go on really have pressed pause on the real estate market recovery.
Now, as bad as these numbers are, they don't even begin to touch what the banks are mostly silent about, and that is the vast inventory, a vast inventory of repossessed homes that they hold but simply refuse to put on the market.
That could depress the market for a long, long time to come.
I'm consumer editor Tom Bakar, KTVU Channel 2 News.
Okay, a couple items here to look at.
You're saying this is bullcrap?
No, the bullcrap part is how does the bank...
Refusing to put these houses on the market depressed the market.
No, it doesn't.
It doesn't.
Well, that's what he said.
He says there's a vast inventory of repos that the banks refuse to put on the market, and then he says this will depress the market even further.
He's a bonehead.
He doesn't understand.
Now, the other thing is that the bogus part of this is the part, well, the interest rates are real low, and people just don't have a job, so they won't get a loan.
You cannot get a loan.
From the bank.
The banks are not giving money out to anybody because the interest rates are so low.
They don't want to.
They don't want to give it out.
They don't want to give it out because, for one thing, they're not going to make anything on the deal.
They'd rather wait for the interest rates to go so they can maybe get a little bit on the float.
There's the difference between 0.1 and 0.
And they don't want to give it out except to the absolute prime candidates.
So there's no money floating around.
I think you just can't get approved.
I couldn't get a loan for a house if I wanted one.
You can't get money.
There's no money.
I have no regular paycheck.
I can't get a house.
But the point is, you'd probably be good for it.
No, I'm not good for it.
What are you talking about?
I can't even get a credit card.
What are you talking about?
They're not going to give me a mortgage.
You just blew up.
So anyway.
I said I can't.
What I said was.
So I'm always misreported.
The banks are coming out smelling like a rose on this deal.
What I was saying was, I can't even get a credit card.
I try from time to time just to laugh at the whole system.
I can't get a credit card.
They decline me because I have no credit.
Yeah, because you don't owe a bunch of money.
Yeah, so I'm no good.
I'm not a good slave.
You're no good.
I'm no good.
A-shock.
And by the way, there's a bunch of clips I didn't get, which I still have on the machine.
I can't find them, but I'll dig them up for maybe the next show or whenever I run into them.
There's a whole bunch of these stories that were floating around the last couple of weeks about microloans given to U.S. citizens.
You know, these micro-loans where you give somebody $500 in Bangladesh so they can start a sewing company and repair shirts or whatever, and then you get your money back plus some interest and you feel real good about things is what you call a micro-loan.
Well, now they're doing it in the United States and nobody sees this as pathetic.
Yeah, what is a micro-loan?
Is it like $50?
$100?
Yeah, $50.
It's anywhere between a couple hundred bucks and $10,000.
But now we're the third world country getting these loans because the banks aren't going to give anybody any money.
So I wanted to read a piece of listener email from Ashok, A-S-H-O-K, a producer, which is what we call our listeners, from Colorado.
And we know Colorado is a great place to be right now.
So listen to this.
This story will freak you out.
Five cops and two students from CSU, Colorado State University, came by his door in the morning, knocked, he answered it.
He was in his pajamas, disheveled hair.
These were full uniformed cops with guns on them, walkie-talkies that were going off and beeping during the whole ordeal.
They introduced themselves, said they are the police that are responsible for this neighborhood.
And they're going around to everyone in the neighborhood to get to know them.
They wanted to let me know of city ordinances that are in effect for this area so that I could be safe and not get into any unneeded trouble.
They went on to say the most received complaint they get is for noise complaints and that I should be respectful of my neighbors and get to know them so I don't bother them and trigger a noise complaint.
Then they asked where I was from, how long I'd been living in this apartment, and they said, we have a gift for you.
It was a deck of playing cards.
This is very similar to the...
To the Al-Qaeda playing cards.
The Iraqi ones.
The Iraqi ones.
Each one of them had an ordinance on them.
And he took some pictures of these.
They're beautiful playing cards.
And he looks at these cards and here's four different examples.
One playing card says, rioting gets you kicked out of school.
The other one says, noise violations can cost up to $1,000 per person.
Number three.
Nuisance gathering.
Minimum fine $500.
Nuisance gathering.
I love that.
That's a great Gitmo talk.
And don't get gassed.
Leave the scene of a riot.
These are cards that the cops are handing out to people who live in the area of the CSU campus.
That's disgusting.
I was blown away by it.
Wow.
Yeah.
Do you have pictures in the show notes?
Oh, of course!
Are you kidding me?
The pictures are beautiful.
I might as well just hit you with a couple more because I want you to get some other good clips.
I only have two real stories that I wanted to hit you with.
One is this whole sexting thing that we've been all over.
Wall Street Journal reporting on this.
So now states are actually putting laws into place.
Well, you know, they don't feel that they should absolutely throw teenagers in jail for sending naked pictures of themselves to each other, but they have come up with, including California, they have come up with a tiered, Discipline system.
Where if you do it once, then...
Here it is.
They call it the happy middle ground.
If you do it once, first offense brings a maximum sentence of 10 days in jail.
Second offense could be 30 days in jail.
This is a bunch of teenagers...
Wait, they're going to send some kid to jail for 10 days because he took a picture of his privates?
Yep.
Yep.
Okay, kid.
Yep.
So his girlfriend says, I don't know, this is ridiculous.
But what they're saying here essentially is, it's good news because we're not going to keep it on your permanent record.
So you won't have this scarlet letter.
Oh, you're going to be in jail for 10 days.
That's going to do wonders for your grade point average.
Yeah, but they will take that off when you turn 21.
Oh, that's just sweet.
Yeah, and no one will ever know.
Oklahoma has proposed a law that would impose one set of penalties for consensual sexting between two people aged 14 to 18, but provide possible stiff jail terms for other types of teenage sexting, undefined.
States will continue to tweak their criminal laws to cope with the changing technologies.
This is so ridiculous.
You know, if your kid is sending naked pictures to another kid, great.
That's perfect.
They're exploring their sexuality.
Take them aside if you don't like it.
Yeah.
Which is another thing, you know, I find it offensive, this idea, and I actually take this back, I don't know how far back it goes.
But it's very bothersome.
And I think it goes back to the DeLorean thing, for me.
DeLorean?
John DeLorean started a car company back when, and he was having trouble financing the last stages of his little company.
And he made, of course, this crazy gold-wing car.
He was the once head of General Motors.
He's kind of a dick, but he was like a businessman who was trying to make a new car company, which is not the easiest thing in the world to do.
And so somebody suggested to him that he moves some cocaine through the system.
And, you know, and I guess he thought it was a good idea.
And, of course, they set up a sting.
There was never any cocaine involved.
He never really committed a crime.
He just kind of was going to commit the crime.
So it was pre-crime, as we know.
Pre-crime is really the key here.
And it was a sting operation.
Stings are good because they are actually...
It's a technique for making pre-crime a crime.
Right.
And I thought that, you know, in a more civilized...
uh, policing state.
Uh, and somebody who's going to say this, they got winded.
This guy's going to try to pull something like this.
So why did, you know, somebody goes up to him and says, Hey, we're onto this Coke thing.
Don't fucking do it.
Just get back to work and find some other way to finance your company.
Cause we know and let him go back to work.
What is the point of going through all this trouble to arrest some poor schmuck that was, you know, that was just obviously a bonehead.
If he was actually in the cocaine business and there are pros in the business, they don't do anything about them, do they?
It's just one of these things where you get, you trick people into committing a crime.
Put a phony hooker on the street, some hot cop, and get some guy to pull over.
Maybe, you know, you don't know half the time.
As soon as the guy pulls over, boom, you're arrested.
Your car's confiscated in the state of California.
You lose your car, by the way, for doing this.
And you're on a reality show.
And, you know, and the whole thing's a bunch of bull crap.
When all you have to do to stop these problems is just say, stop.
And didn't he wind up, he was so pissed off with everything that he threw the die for these cars, he threw them in the ocean?
I don't know.
I don't remember that.
Yeah, they could never make another part.
That's why you don't want a DeLorean, because they're made of stainless steel aluminum.
Yeah, I don't know.
Maybe.
Whatever.
The point is that we're just apparently in the business of finding ways to get free crime to work.
Yeah.
I thought when I was doing it, we're doing the news stuff on Silicon Space.
This was in the 90s.
And some schmuck was arrested at the San Francisco airport because apparently he was going to go on a sex cruise or a sex vacation in the Philippines.
And they arrested him at the airport because he was going to have sex with...
Underage women in the Philippines.
He didn't do it.
He didn't do anything.
He was just going to get on this plane.
For all you know, he would have gone over there and not done anything, or just gotten drunk and come back.
You don't know.
But it was a pre-crime situation, and it was another excuse to throw somebody else in jail.
And that's essentially all we do.
I was reading somewhere that in Baltimore and in Maryland, they're already actually using the computer for pre-crime.
They're actually using this IBM system.
Yeah, we blogged that actually.
Yeah, I saw the story somewhere.
These comments of mine.
We blogged it.
Apparently there's some computer system that can...
I almost think this is a hoax story because I find it hard to believe that we've gone this far astray.
Certainly it's being publicized so you watch out.
Be good, slave.
Shut up.
Don't do anything.
We're tracking you.
And if you do actually get arrested, good news!
Law enforcement now has a laser to fire at you.
This is the assault intervention device.
Oh, the pain laser.
Yeah, measuring 2.2 meters in height causes some serious heat when shot at an escapee or fighty prisoner.
Fighty.
What kind of word is this?
It probably gives you cataracts, too, but nobody wants to talk about that.
No, what it does is it turns you into a hot pocket.
I love it.
This is like, we've been seeing this coming.
Here it is.
You know, tasers aren't enough.
We're just going to fry your ass.
Slave bitch.
Gotcha.
It's amazing.
I just love it.
And then maybe, I think we should bring this back, John, if not only for the fantastic jingle.
That's right, it's that time of year again, ladies and gentlemen, when we roll out the flu vaccine and we start scaring everybody.
So the flu season this year, according to Wall Street Journal, the goal is more shots sooner!
Of course, we've already seen gift cards everywhere.
It's the gift that keeps on giving.
A great Christmas gift.
Yeah, it makes a great gift for Labor Day.
U.S. officials say they're using lessons learned from the H1N1 swine flu pandemic, which erupted in April 2009.
This year's flu vaccine will have the H1N1 baked right in!
It'll be right in there.
It's not a separate shot.
It's fantastic.
So that's groovy.
Meanwhile, reports now that bloodhounds are being trained to sniff out swine flu.
As well as H5N1, that is the bird flu.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
This is the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
Okay, boy, here you go, boy.
Ready?
Now, here, smell this.
It's got the H5N1. Oh, you just dropped dead.
No, well, what these dogs will do, of course, is they'll be used at checkpoints, and they will sniff you out as having swine flu.
Based on our results, we believe dogs, as well as mice, could be trained to identify a variety of diseases and health conditions, said U.S. Department of Agriculture scientist Bruce A. Kimball, Ph.D., who presented the study results.
Does the mouse squeak at you three times if somebody's got the swine flu?
How do you train the mouse?
How does it let you know?
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
So anyway, these will be used.
You'll see these dogs at airports.
It'll say swine flu dog.
And he will sniff you.
And if you get a hit, if it's a positive hit, you'll be taken aside and you'll be quarantined.
It's as clear as the nose on my face.
They're going to use dogs now.
They already use dogs for drugs.
They use dogs for, you know, if you're bringing in peanuts from the plane when you enter the United States.
If you have money on you, oh, dogs, I still got too much money.
They got dogs for bombs.
They got dogs for fruit.
They got dogs for drugs.
Yeah, it's great.
Yeah, it's great.
So now we'll have dogs for diseases.
Not just swine flu, but for all kinds of diseases.
I always ask, by the way, when I'm at the airport, I'll see some dog guy.
And I'll ask them, what kind of a dog is it?
Is it a drug dog?
Is it a bomb dog?
What is it?
And they'll always tell you.
Yeah, but they always say, don't touch the dog, please.
Don't touch the dog.
Meanwhile, in Finland, I have to say, the Helsinkians are pretty smart.
H1N1 vaccines have been suspended over narcolepsy scare.
At least 15 cases of narcolepsy amongst children and young people in this past six months.
Huh.
Apparently you take your kid to get a shot and the kid keeps falling asleep.
Conks out.
Well, that's a good one.
Make sure that's in the show notes.
Oh, yeah.
Of course it's in the show notes.
Absolutely.
So what do you make of the situation in China?
You think it's part of the planes good, trains good, planes bad?
I think this story is bogus, by the way.
Supposed nine-day traffic jam?
Yeah, you know, it's...
I'm not quite...
A lot of people have sent me that link saying this is planes good, trains bad, cars even worse, which of course the jingle doesn't go like that.
It's all aboard!
Trains good, planes bad!
Woohoo!
Yeah, I think it might be.
Although, you know, I don't really see the part of the story that says, if only they had taken the bullet train.
But it's really trucks.
So I think that's where the link is.
How do you have a nine-day traffic jam?
Well, there's road construction.
There's road construction.
Duh!
It happens everywhere.
Go break up the 405.
You don't get stuck in your car for nine days.
Well, if the construction is just chopped, if they just stop the traffic, if they just cut the road in half, of course you do.
Then it builds up real quick.
You find a way to get off the road.
You have to crap in the car.
I mean, you have to crap before doing the show, for God's sake.
Excuse me, I don't crap.
I poop, alright?
There's a big difference.
I don't crap.
Actually guys do crap.
Women poop.
Logan Airport security has changed.
Of course Boston's Logan is where one of the box-cutting terrorists boarded an airplane and flew it into the World Trade Center.
It was an amazing, astounding job.
But where did they change it to?
Well...
And why now?
Okay, well, that is the real question.
The new procedure, already being questioned, of course, by the ACLU, replaces the Transportation Security Administration's former back-of-the-hand pat-down.
So what they were doing is they'd pat you down, but they used the back of your hand around the sensitive areas, i.e.
my cock.
So what they're doing now is they're actually groping you.
So I think what happens is you go through the body scanner, they see you're looking hot, and then they're going to touch you.
I'm going to touch this one.
Watch this.
I only want the female person to do that to me.
I'm going to request female assist, please.
TSA is in the process of implementing an enhanced pat-down at security checkpoints as one of our many layers of security, said Ann Davis, TSA's spokeshole for the Northeast region.
Pat-downs are designed to address potentially dangerous items like improvised explosive devices and their components concealed on the body.
How many improvised explosive devices have we had improvised, not the crotch bomb or anything like that, ever?
Well, I don't know, but I tell Mickey it's an IED. Watch out, baby.
Here comes my IED. So, here's another story that's floating around, which I think is bogus, because I'm fairly familiar with physics.
They have now this supposed portable scanner they have at the airport.
Now they have a portable truck version.
Wait, let me play the commercial for it.
Have you seen this?
No.
Hold on, here it comes.
The Z Backscatter Van from American Science and Engineering.
From the outside, the ZBB looks like an ordinary delivery van, allowing it to blend in to urban and other landscapes.
Yet, as it passes by cars, trucks, containers, and other objects, its unparalleled X-ray screening system provides photo-like images, detecting explosives, weapons, contraband, and stowaways.
These images can be immediately analyzed by the operator seated in the ZDV's cab.
The ZBV is the perfect screening tool for seaports, military bases, border crossings, checkpoints, and any other locations where illegal material or IEDs can be smuggled in via cars, trucks, or other vehicles.
Using AS&E's unique backscatter technology, the ZBV produces electronically generated x-rays, That detect substances containing low atomic number elements, such as carbon, hydrogen, and nitrogen.
These elements are often present in explosives and other contraband.
The ZBV is an ideal tool for detecting these threats in vans, buses, cars, trucks, cargo containers, dumpsters, densely foliated trees and shrubs, and any other objects or containers where dangerous items can be concealed.
The ZVV is not only incredibly effective, but also very easy to use.
It can be operated by either one or two people and is up and running within minutes.
The operators can view the objects as they're being scanned.
And by using AS&E's image analysis tools, they can manipulate, enhance, and save.
Void where prohibited by law.
Buy now while stocks last.
So are we having an IED issue in this country?
Are there cars being blown up by the side of the road?
Do we have IEDs all over the USA? I think it can detect boob bombs.
Well, they specifically talked about IEDs.
We never heard of an IED until like a few years ago because of these poor countries that we've invaded.
Yeah, we used to just call it a pipe bomb.
Now it's an IED. Yeah.
Right.
Alright, so you're saying this is physically...
Is that what I'm being told?
Is that what I have to infer from this report?
Well, they can see things such as carbon, like human beings.
Yeah, well, they show the pictures of this so-called...
It looks like an x-ray.
It sounds to me as though they're blasting x-rays all over the place, killing us with radiation.
Yeah, with x-rays.
Yeah, this is not good.
So you say this is physically impossible?
Yeah.
Well, not without some...
But to go through a cargo container, steel, to get an image on the other side of a steel wall...
They actually, in that video, show them pulling up next to a C container, and they're scanning it.
Yeah.
So that's bullcrap.
Well, I mean, you could probably do it with some...
It has to be powerful x-ray, though.
I don't even know what you can do with terahertz.
I don't know how...
It's not easy.
You'd have to blast the crap out of it.
To get through steel and then get an image on the other side?
Yeah.
That's not just backscatter, is what you're saying.
What if it looks like steel and you crank it up?
Let's put it, it looks like steel to me, but it's not just plastic and you just incinerate the person?
I mean, give me a break.
Here it is.
New crime prediction software being rolled out in the nation's capital should reduce not only the murder rate, but the rate of many other crimes as well.
Developed by Richard Burke, a professor at the University of Pennsylvania, the software is already used in Baltimore and Philadelphia to predict which individuals on probation or parole are most likely to murder and to be murdered.
I'm glad I'm just a spectator of all of this.
I'm glad I don't get emotionally involved.
When a person goes on probation or parole, they are supervised by an officer.
The question that officer has to answer is, what level of supervision do you provide?
This is amazing.
Technology helps determine the level of supervision needed for people on probation or parole.
It's ABC News.
ABC News Report.
Yeah, everybody takes this matter-of-fact as, oh, this is pretty, this is handy.
Yeah, well, we've been set up with Minority Report.
Yeah, we've been set up, you know, it's like...
Scientifically, Burke's results are very impressive, says Sean Bushway, a professor of criminal justice at State University of New York, SUNY, by the way, not a real school, who's familiar with Burke's research.
Predicting rare events like murder, even among high-risk individuals, is extremely difficult.
Burke's scientific answer leaves policymakers with difficult questions.
They're already using it.
So they say.
Here we go again, back to the depressing part of ours.
I don't want to be depressed.
Let's play a funny clip.
You got a funny clip?
You got something for it, don't you?
Anyway, that's not good.
I'm sure you have a funny clip, John.
Please give us a funny clip.
Did I lose you?
Hello, I'm here.
Hello, hello, I hear you.
Hello, hello.
Do you hear me?
Hello.
Hello.
Hello, hello?
Tommy, can you hear me?
Well, let me tell him I can hear him.
Are you there?
Hello?
Tommy?
Yeah, that's usually what I mean.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hold on.
It was funny because I could hear you.
Hello?
Hmm.
Seems to be down for the count.
No.
It's your sound device again.
There you are.
Oh, you got me?
Nope.
Nope.
Stop downloading porn!
I got nothing going on here.
Okay, you hear me now?
It's your side.
No, it's not my side.
I hear you fine.
I'm sending fine.
Let's just do the show like this.
No, I still can't hear you.
Yeah, that's all right, because...
Yeah, right, exactly.
Now I can hear you.
Yes, okay, good.
So it's totally on your side.
Hello?
This is...
This is not good.
Comcastrated he is.
Hello?
John?
Maybe if I initiate the connection.
I think I should leave all this in.
in.
This just shows you the sorry state of broadband in America.
Let's see.
Hello?
John?
I can't hear you at all now.
Do you hear me?
Hmm.
I don't even think my Skype message...
Oh, connection lost.
I think there's something wrong.
John's connection has been kind of weird all morning.
It's been a little spiky.
Let's try again.
Oh, he just came online again.
Hello?
Yes.
Yeah, I hear you now.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, what's wrong with your setup, man?
It keeps tracing back to this.
My M-Audio might be failing.
I told you.
Maybe.
That's Windows.
It's not Windows.
It's a...
I don't know what the deal is.
Anyway, do you have a fun clip so we can not be so depressed?
Although that was actually quite funny.
I think I'll leave that whole bit in because we were talking and neither of us...
I could hear you, but you couldn't hear me.
And we were actually having a...
And it sounded just like a normal no-agenda conversation.
Which makes you wonder about the show.
It does.
But don't let that stop anyone.
Dvorak.org slash NA. Yeah.
Okay, so here's a pathetic...
This is the commentary on the...
This is a long clip, by the way.
You can interrupt it as we go.
But this is the pathetic commentary of the decade on what's wrong with, I don't know, the world, the United States.
I'm not sure.
Play the RuPaul's Drag U. I'm about to change.
Welcome to Drag U. This semester...
Commence Dragulation.
...on RuPaul's Drag U. To your education...
Watermelon, watermelon.
...is going to be a drag.
Ooh.
Okay.
Leave it to our drag queen professors.
Angina, Chanel, Morgan McMichaels, Tammy Brown, Nina Flowers, Andorra Box, Jujubee, and Raven.
Get to work.
We're professors and we should be setting an example.
They'll school our students in the art of being fabulous.
Let's pretend we're an orangutan.
I have seen this show once.
What channel is this air on?
I don't remember.
I'm not going to give them any publicity.
They'll cram.
They don't breathe.
How do you need to breathe?
They'll jam.
Y'all making me look bad.
And do whatever it takes.
Look at you.
Mmm.
To draguate.
Your transformation was amazing.
You know, this is actually, it's probably a good thing.
This is a growth market that RuPaul is in.
Since we are drinking all these chemicals and more being added every single day, it starts, of course, with the fluoride.
Men are becoming very effeminate in the United States.
So I think it's a growth market.
We're all going to be hunkering for the perfect color first.
That's how it starts.
And then we'll start on their dresses.
What's offensive about the show is not that this has got anything to do with being a drag queen.
These are drag queens trying to get American women to be more like them.
Oh, really?
Yeah, the idea of the show is we've got a bunch of borderline lesbians, dykes, that are married to people.
You said the D word!
And they're upset with, you know, they're upset that they're not more feminine, and instead of, you know, I don't know, reading Glamour magazine, I don't know what, you know, I'm not a woman, but I don't think you go to a drag queen for...
For fashion advice.
Well, I don't know.
Let me listen to the rest of the promo.
This is very interesting to me.
With top honors...
Oh, I want to let the bitches have it.
Are you ready to be the baddest bitch in school?
Okay!
Ladies, let them have it.
Class is in session.
Deep in the Lake Titicaca Valley, a school was formed by drag queens to help biological women unleash their inner diva and let the world have it.
Chronological women.
Nice.
I think he said biological, didn't he?
I thought he said chronological, which I thought was even more interesting.
Let me listen to that.
Unleash their inner diva.
A school was formed by drag queens to help biological women unleash their inner diva and let the world have it.
We here at Drag U are in the business of putting drag queen heads on women's shoulders.
Welcome to RuPaul's Drag U. You know, the whole industry has just gone crazy.
Poor women.
Poor women.
I really feel bad for the female species.
Inundated continuously.
As you say, Glamour magazine.
Mickey picked up a copy.
I'm looking at it.
It's like do's and don'ts.
Yeah, it's always this doozy.
They're just completely being...
But this takes the cake for offensive.
Now, I want you to play the whole clip because at the end there's some poor woman in tears because she's, you know, for whatever reason...
I mean, it's almost...
It's like a real eye roller.
Yeah, finish it up.
Really now?
Good morning, professors.
Good morning, Ru.
Now a new class is arriving, ready to change their lives through the miracle of trash.
Alright, fuck you, RuPaul.
I'm done.
I can't listen to that anymore.
Seriously.
No, it's...
I can't believe women put up with this.
You know, we protest about everything else, but it's amazing how women are being subjugated into the certain way you have to look.
By drag queens, yes.
I feel bad.
I really do.
And they don't see it.
Most women just...
Oh, they do.
Mimi sure sees it.
She blew up when she saw this.
Well, let me just say, a lot of women don't see it.
And the Kardashians is a part of this.
I saw Kim Kardashian appear on Chelsea Lately.
And Kim Kardashian is so fake, she actually was wearing a dress with...
Actually, I think she was wearing a corset underneath with butt cheeks.
It was very obvious that she was wearing that type of corset.
It's like, it's gotten so bad.
Everything is fake.
You know, these days, you get a woman in bed, you undress, you're like, what?
Where did that woman go?
I picked up at the bar.
What is this?
All these pieces.
You're like Lego.
What?
What do I snap this back on in the morning?
It's like, women are beautiful human beings.
It's like, don't worry about it.
This too shall pass eventually.
But maybe not in your lifetime.
But my, oh my, oh my, oh my.
No wonder we have so many divorces.
The guys are stupid.
It's like, ugh.
Because all we got is porn.
And they're all pieced together, women.
And it's like, ah, they gotta look like this.
It's like, we're completely conditioned.
My goodness.
I think we just have an ugly people show.
You're not ugly enough.
Come here.
Come to Adam's ugly you.
I'm gonna make you look ugly, bitches.
I'm gonna turn you into the real bitches you are.
I'm gonna make you ugly.
So I got another couple of minor clips here that are kind of off topic.
Don't put me through that again, though.
No, okay, you're fine.
You're good to go.
Okay.
What's next?
So I was highly amused by this clip.
This is a news item, an anti-Carly Fiorina person complaining on one of the news shows.
Is it RuPaul complaining?
No, no, but it must as well be.
By the way, that RuPaul character on the show, he's bald, and he's got a fake mustache and big glasses and wearing a man's suit.
I think he's...
I don't think he has any nuts.
Across the street from the convention, a couple dozen protesters reminded people that Fiorina laid off tens of thousands of workers during her time at HP. Why would anybody want to consider a failed CEO could take on this monstrous stuff of governing this state?
Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.
Let's vote for jobs!
Yeah!
So the news channel puts on this ding-a-ling who's protesting Carla Fiorina, and apparently the woman thinks Fiorina's running for governor.
Why don't we find somebody even more stupid to interview?
We can put her on RuPaul's show.
And of course the news guys...
Don't say anything.
Don't say a word.
The anchors nowadays, they never...
They don't know.
They either don't pay any attention, or they don't know anything, or they're just stooges.
Here's what happens.
They're reading the prompter, and it's like, okay, roll package, and then they're twittering, they're talking to each other, like, hey, where are you going tonight after the show?
We're back in five, four, three.
They don't look.
They don't know.
They're not paying attention.
I've done these shows.
You know how it goes, John.
When the package rolls, that's when you scratch your nuts.
Get a little makeup touch-up.
How about your Olbermann stuff?
The Olbermann stuff is pretty tedious.
But let me just give you an example of what goes on in Olbermann nowadays.
I've got this clip called Olbermann with this rambling guess.
It's some apologist.
Apparently, the liberals contingent out there on the MSNBC, although they seem to hate religion, just generally speaking, they really do like the idea of Islam, I guess, because there's just out and out defending this controversy going on in New York to such an extreme.
You either pay no attention to it or essentially it just doesn't make any sense that you'd be so involved.
I mean, as far as I'm concerned, it's not even a topic we talk about on this show because it's a local issue.
It's kind of interesting to talk about when it first happened, but it's being dragged and dragged and dragged on.
So Obermann gets these people on who are just, I don't know if they're brain dead.
I'm not absolutely sure.
But they just ramble and ramble over them.
Oh, yeah.
You can't interrupt them and tell them to get off the stage.
It's ridiculous.
But just play a little bit.
See how much of this you can take?
Hussein with Osama bin Laden.
Oh, I'm done.
You know, we have been told by many of our leaders that...
There was absolutely no reason to invade Iraq.
Al-Qaeda wasn't there, blah, blah, blah.
We all know these stories.
Blah, blah, blah.
So from my point of view...
All right, any guest that comes on and says, blah, blah, blah, you're off.
You're off the show.
Blah, blah, blah.
This is an escalation of, you know, what has been going on.
I mean, when people will accuse the President of the United States of being Muslim, the problem with the accusation...
This is interesting.
Like it's a crime?
In its nature, it means it's a crime.
You know, it's a problem.
Well, you know, I honestly have to say I never really expected to be in this position in America that we don't understand that you can't excerpt the fact that this is an argument about religious tolerance just because none of us individually wants to be called a bigot.
So we cloak bigotry and racial intolerance.
I think it should be called the M-word from now on.
I don't think we should use the word Muslim.
It should just be M-word.
Because I was missing an M. You know, we've got the A-word, the B-word, the C-word, the D-word.
Do we have an E-word?
Okay, we need an E-word.
We have the F-word.
We have the G-word.
The H-word.
Would you have an I-word?
Um...
Okay.
Islam?
Oh yeah, the I word, Islam, right?
We have the J word.
Hmm, I don't think we have a J word.
K word, don't think we have that either.
L word, yeah, lesbian.
Can't use that.
In fact, it's a TV show.
It's probably trademark.
M word we now have.
I mean, we should be talking...
The whole time.
Letters.
Just letters.
It's actually happening.
This reminds me.
My son pointed this out.
There's a bunch of these called number stations or something like that.
These are shortwave radio stations.
They've been around for 10, 15, 20 years, 30 maybe.
And you tune them in.
They're always moving around to dial in the shortwave radio.
And it's just guys giving numbers out.
Five.
Five.
Well, you know, this is very...
Oh, Courant, it's funny you bring that up, because I was actually going to skip over it.
The Russian buzzer kicked in again.
Did you hear about that?
No.
So the Russian buzzer is a station that has been on the air for...
Oh, God, I don't know how long it's been on the air...
Let me see if I can find the link here.
Wikipedia has a whole page on it.
And all of a sudden, this thing usually just buzzes, right?
And sometimes you'd hear like a little bit of a Russian voice or something kind of slowed down.
It was really weird.
And all of a sudden, a couple days ago, it kicks in, and now we've got the guys giving out codes, and everyone's all in a titter about it.
Listen to this.
Well, I thought they were giving out addresses.
Well, listen to this.
- - - - - - - - It's too crazy even for me to get into it, even though I did record the clip.
But there's a link to the wiki page where you can hear what it used to sound like.
See, here's what it used to sound like.
Hold on.
That's all it used to do.
And now we've got...
So, we're screwed!
They've done these things over so many years.
It's like, what kind of a...
What kind of technology are they using?
It's like, dude, this is not good.
Use the internet.
Germany is rolling out ID cards with embedded RFID. It's about time.
Yes, made by a fine Dutch company from Gitmo Nation Lowlands.
And right on the heels of that, of course, they are hacked very easily.
But this RFID contains biometric information.
It's got all your details in there.
And, of course, Gitmo Nation Deutschland is very happy to have them.
And the government says it's really easy.
This is very handy because this will be your money very soon.
First, it's your loyalty card.
Just like the Belgian system, and then from your loyalty card will become your money card.
In the lowlands, by the way, they have a system called PIN, P-I-N, which of course means personal identification number, but it's turned into a verb, and they call it pinning.
So in supermarkets, I think we talked about this on a previous show, you can, instead of paying cash or with a credit card, you use your PIN. And it's just basically like a debit card, but they call it pinning, and it uses a smart chip on the card instead of a magnetic strip.
And in some cases, you can even load up the card with some money.
Then it's called the chipknit.
So two things happening.
One is the supermarket association is now saying we're going all pin, no cash.
But even more interesting, the banks are saying, you know, people over 65, we really need to protect them.
So they can't pin at the ATM. They can't pin more than 300 euros because, you know, they can get attacked and people can take old people's money away.
And I know lots of people who are 65, incredibly vibrant and smart and alive and contributing to society, and they literally can't get more than 300 euros out of the ATM because of this ageist bullcrap.
Yeah, no kidding.
It's unbelievable.
That sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen.
No, the Dutch are like, yeah, poor old people.
Yeah, we need to protect the old people.
Idiots.
Don't forget the Dutch No Agenda Meeting.
DutchNoAgendaMeeting.com September 10th.
I will be visiting.
And Miss Mickey's coming along too.
So at least we'll have hookers.
We won't have blow.
She's bringing some girlfriends too.
She's going to bring some hot girlfriends.
Wish you were going now.
You calling her a hooker?
No, I'm just joking.
She did!
It's a joke!
Yeah, you'll see what happens tonight.
You better keep the show away from her.
She already tuned out at RuPaul.
Believe me.
She's already gone.
She's not listening.
No, but she's coming.
I think that's cool.
And she is bringing her girlfriends.
So that will be fun.
And we have Youp will be playing at the affair.
It's going to be fun.
And then, finally, the X-37B, this is the secret mini space shuttle they shot off from, was it Andrews, near you there?
Yeah, this is not a NASA, at first it was a NASA project, then all of a sudden it wasn't a NASA project, and no one knows about it, and it got shot up in the middle of the night, and it's been...
It disappeared off the radar for about a week there.
Of course, amateurs have been tracking this thing, wondering what it's going to do.
It literally disappeared on July 29th and failed to reappear as on schedule on August 14th.
It just didn't show up anymore, and no one knows where it is.
Well, obviously the test was for it to disappear and come back.
I think it's cloaking.
They've got some kind of space cloaking stuff going on.
Yeah, but apparently you can't turn it off.
I think it just landed on the moon.
You know, go resupply the moon bases.
Oh.
Well, that's possible.
Yeah.
In some dream world.
Alright, then I've got one more just to piss you off here.
This is from Gitmo Nation East.
Of course, the assault on salt continues.
Little did you know how bad salad is for you, John.
I'm not talking about...
Just any old salad.
Just salad you might buy when you're shopping the high street and think, oh, you know what?
I'm going to sit down at a nice little cafe here and have a salad.
In California, we eat lots of salad.
We are the salad bowl of America.
So this is not some prepackaged thing.
No, this is the salad you have after a nice day of shopping and spending your human resource energy.
Salads bought on the high street could be a health risk.
One in ten contains more salt than the 2.1 grams in a McDonald's Big Mac.
Okay.
So you're telling me there's more salt in a salad than in a Big Mac?
You're telling me that salad...
This is pushing people towards Big Macs.
Listen.
...in a McDonald's Big Mac.
That's nearly half the daily recommended amount.
Just six of the 270 salad and pasta bowls surveyed by Consensus Action on Salt and Health contain...
What was the name of that organization?
I never...
Play it again.
The pasta bowl surveyed by Consensus Action on Salt and Health.
Consensus Action on Salt and Health.
Wow.
I'm going to Google that while we're listening to it.
I'm Googling it too.
Consensus Action on Health and Salt.
Contained less salt than a packet of crisps.
Well, let's listen again.
Census action on salt and health contained less salt than a packet of crisps.
But the research also found that the average salt content in supermarket salads has reduced by 23% compared with five years ago.
A lot of these salads have got numerous ingredients in them, such as dressings, extra cheese, extra ham, and those are the things that really add the salt into your salad.
Naturally, pasta, salad leaves don't really have any salt in them, and of course, if you made them yourself at home, they would be very low in salt.
So it's really the manufacturers putting salt in it to try and boost the flavor rather than using good, healthy ingredients.
Did you find him?
Yeah, that's right.
It's called actionsalt.org.uk.
Action salt.
Ooh, action.
And their consensus action on salt and health spells cash.
Woo-hoo!
Cash is a group of specialists concerned with salt.
Cash?
Just send us your cash!
Action Salt?
Is that what it was?
Is it one word?
Actionsalt.org, yeah.
Dot UK? Yeah.
I don't get anything.
Action Salt.
AC Action...
Oh, I'm sorry.
Action on Salt.
Actiononsult.
I was going to say, so it's not Assault on Salt, it's the Action on Salt.
No, I don't get any page there.
Actiononsult.org.uk I'm not getting anything, my brother.
Well, here, let me send you the link, and then you can see if you can get it through this.
I mean, maybe you're, I don't know.
Let me get you the, uh, the thing.
I don't see it.
That's really weird.
Maybe I have to put a WWW in front of it.
There it is.
Yeah, maybe you do.
Yeah, WWW. Consensus action on salt and health cash.
They're really blatant, aren't they?
They want to reach a consensus with the food industry and government over the harmful effects of a high salt diet.
And bring about a reduction in the amount of salt in processed foods as well as salt added to cooking on the table.
Cash is supported by 22 expert scientific members.
Ooh!
Nice.
Click here for a copy of the list.
Some clicking.
Professor D.G. Beavers.
Hey, Bieber.
It's Justin Bieber's dad.
Professor H.G. Wardner.
Charm Cross Hospital.
This group was set up in 1996 as a response to the refusal of the chief medical officer to endorse the COMA recommendations.
These guys got great acronyms.
COMA? Yeah, what are the COMA? Oh, C-O-M-A. Committee on Medical Aspects of Food.
Should that be COMA-F? No, it's COMA. The Comer Report considered the evidence for a casual relationship between the consumption of sodium and both the level of blood pressure and the rise in blood pressure with age.
See, this is the real dispute here, is that too much salt causes high blood pressure.
It apparently does with some people.
Yeah, but, you know, of course we all know this.
Science!
Science is completely in on that.
Yeah, so the...
It's just crazy.
Here's a funny little recent press release, a funny little cartoon with a woman standing at the counter saying, take away lunches, and it says, salt may contain traces of salad.
Ha ha ha!
I love putting salt in my coffee.
And we checked my blood pressure.
They actually looked at me and went like, what?
I had 108 over 60.
That's pretty good.
It's low.
Yeah, it's not real low, though.
You've got to be careful it's not too low.
108 over 60?
That's low.
Maybe that is low.
I don't know.
What is absolute normal?
I don't know.
But I am a 46-year-old smoking male.
And I love salt.
I love it.
Anyway, I guess the message here is go have a Big Mac.
It's better for you than salad.
Because salad will kill you.
You're looking it up?
Normal blood pressure?
So you go to normal blood pressure, then you do 120 over 60.
120 over 60?
So I'm 104, so it's low.
120 over 80 or lower is normal blood pressure.
Here it is, 120 over 80.
Okay, so I'm low.
You're a little low.
Is that bad?
Is low blood pressure bad?
Well, yeah, it is, but I don't think you're low enough for it to be bad.
What happens when the blood pressure's too low?
Well, you drop dead.
Oh, okay.
Especially when it gets to zero.
A blood pressure of zero over zero is not good.
Alright.
Are we done here?
No, we're not done.
I want to get the number for low blood pressure.
Do you have another clip?
Can you kick me?
Can we leave everyone with something good and something nice so we can get out of here?
We're getting close to overtime here.
No, we're not.
We started real late.
Oh, I guess you're right.
We're five minutes over.
Okay.
We'll talk about blood pressure.
Most normal blood pressure on the range is 90 over 60 to 130 over 80.
And then you're not even...
So you're not really low.
You're just...
I'm a zombie!
You're fine.
I'm a zombie!
All right.
Alright, we're done.
We're through.
We're finished.
Okay, I just wanted to check...
Slash NA, help us out.
We didn't get any help this week.
We need a little help.
No.
Blood pressure low.
Support low.
Yeah.
And you...
Yeah.
Remember, we've got those $5 a month subscriptions.
Those are really great for ongoing support.
And, of course, get in on the 42.
You can make a one-time donation.
We'll track it as 42.
But John's going to get the page up, right?
Yeah, actually Eric's working on it as we speak.
And have we now dubbed Paul Couture as Lord of the Rings?
Or not.
We could call him that.
He needs a lordship.
Did you send him an email like you promised?
Yes, I did.
Okay, good.
He's working in a talk on the phone.
Yeah, in my book.
Go ahead.
I think lordships may be in order.
Well, I think that he will become lord of the rings.
He's going to make it happen.
What about Pelsmockers?
He's got to get some sort of lordship.
Oh, we'll give him a lordship for sure.
But we will figure that out on Sunday when we return with this program.
Coming to you from Gitmo Nation West, the People's Republic of Southern California, I am the sovereign citizen known as Adam Curry.
And from northern Silicon Valley, where the weather pattern has gone down the tubes again, but that's okay.