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	Death by Hooker.
	Well, at least we're getting creative.
	Adam Curry.
	John C. Dvorak.
	It's Sunday, August 15, 2010.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation.
	Media assassination episode 226.
	This is no agenda.
	Trains are winning.
	Not a contrail in the sky for weeks.
	No more flying.
	Coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West in the People's Republic of Southern California.
	In the morning, I'm the former Soviet spy known as Adam Curry.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Hey.
	That's all you're going to say?
	You freaked me out, man.
	I wasn't ready for that.
	I was just seeing if you were ready on the switch.
	I was there.
	I was there.
	And I even got your hot pockets in.
	Yeah, well, I didn't ask for that.
	I did an awesome day.
	It is foggy and cold again.
	This is the worst summer in the history of northern Silicon Valley.
	It's been bad in southern California as well, but today is another beautiful day.
	But last night it was cold.
	We went out to see...
	Oh, brr, I bet you it was freezing.
	It was freezing.
	It must have been as low as 60.
	We had to turn the fire pit on.
	We went out to see Billy Idol with Bobby Eden.
	He's still alive?
	Dude, not only is he alive, the guy looks amazing.
	54, he's cut.
	He's probably sobered up.
	Oh yeah, he's got his shit together.
	It was a great show at the Palladium, which is, I don't know, what was it, Mickey, like 800 people maybe?
	Something like that, yeah.
	More?
	Yeah, how many people?
	No, not thousands.
	Did you sing Catch My Fall?
	Sorry?
	Never mind.
	I guess I missed that.
	White Wedding?
	Did he do White Wedding?
	Yeah, of course he did White Wedding.
	You know what was great is Steve Stevens plays guitar with him.
	And Steve Stevens is probably as big a superstar as Billy Idol.
	And he was just amazing.
	I haven't been to a concert in a long, long time.
	I hope you wear ear protection.
	What?
	What?
	Yeah, that's what I thought.
	But anyway, Bobby says hi, and she's coming by to do a special daily source code.
	This is a programming note.
	Special daily source code on Wednesday in the hot tub, and she expects you to join, John.
	Yeah, I'll be right down.
	She said we can get the booby prize.
	I shall bet.
	Since the Netherlands lost.
	It's probably not a bad prize, but then again.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so, alright, anyway, that's a programming note that will be broadcast live on the noagendastream.com, and of course the party is always at noagendachat.net.
	And I have to tell you that Eric the Shill is Skyping you with the effing XLS. A new one, is it different?
	I don't know, because you don't have it.
	The other one came up, so I'm fine.
	Okay, well, do we have any executive producers to thank for supporting this show?
	We have a bunch, actually.
	Oh, that's nice.
	Let me read a few of them off here, because now I'm getting another spreadsheet.
	I don't know if it's any different.
	But let's start with Paul Couture, who's knighted himself.
	Well, he was already Sir Paul Couture.
	Well, he's a double knight now.
	Maybe he's got...
	Okay, well, he was...
	Now he's...
	Let's make him...
	He was the Knights of the No Agenda Roundtable, so now he's in Order of the Mint.
	Order of the Mint, okay.
	So he's got two different...
	Sir, Sir Paul Couture.
	Statuses.
	Sir, Sir.
	How does that work in England when you have the order of the bath or whatever it is?
	The order of the bath.
	I think you get to blow Charles.
	Can you get to?
	I don't think you can get to.
	I don't know if that works.
	No, no.
	They have order of the British Empire and then you have an outstanding citizen and then you have...
	There's a couple different ones.
	You can essentially...
	Well, there's not just those three.
	No, there's a whole bunch of them, but there's different levels.
	Can you get more than one?
	Yes, of course, of course.
	You can start at the bottom with like an OBE, and then you can work your way up to an actual knighthood.
	Yeah, the king.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Basically, with the way Paul Couture is going, we're going to have to give him the show.
	King Couture.
	Yeah, that of course is from the NoAgendaFans.com coin challenge.
	And they're sold out.
	All 500 gone.
	Yeah.
	Which is awesome.
	That's good news for everybody.
	We also have, anyway, so he's an executive producer.
	We also have one, two, three, four other executive producers.
	Okay.
	I'm sorry, no, three.
	Matthew Moss from Long Beach, California gave us $370,250 with a note cursing us for using PayPal.
	Piss off.
	How do I not use PayPal on my next donation?
	I sent him an email about how he can mail in the...
	Right.
	Nobody steals the fees.
	Charles Jordan.
	Now, wait a minute.
	Wisconsin, 3333.
	He's on his way to a knighthood.
	I don't think he's achieved it yet.
	And then we have some people did mail in a check, including Dave in Vegas.
	Wait a minute.
	Hold on.
	Charles Jordan.
	Hold on.
	I have a note here.
	That is actually his third installment for knighthood, and he wants to gift the knighthood to his wife, Carol, so she can be a dame of the roundtable.
	She's a huge fan.
	He says, I owe her a ring, and we need more women at the table.
	Hear, hear!
	Hear, hear.
	Yeah, we've always said that.
	So that will be Carol Jordan.
	And then we have Dave in Vegas, who sent in a check for $417.33.
	Dave in Vegas?
	Yeah, Dave in Vegas, which is what he wants to be called, Dave in Vegas.
	Okay, cool.
	And that includes a $333.33 donation, plus X amount of money for each show that we've done in the past, which came out to $417.33.
	So thank you, Dave in Vegas.
	And then we have one, two, three...
	Associates?
	Yeah, three associate executive producers, and that includes Robert Majors from Lake Forest Park, Washington.
	I was an internet audio-video communications director for the orchestral recording of The Spy Next Door with Jackie Chan.
	I will get my IMDB listing going with that, plus the No Agenda executive producer.
	Absolutely.
	It's a real credit.
	Once you get on that IMDB, you can throw all kinds of stuff in there.
	Yeah, but this is an important credit, and it's real.
	It's a very good one.
	I think I'd put it above the Jackie Chan.
	I think in the order of things, yes.
	I concur.
	Brian Kaufman, Tempe, Arizona.
	$200.
	This is karma for myself.
	Today's my last day at my engineering job.
	I start law school at Arizona State ASU Party School.
	Next Thursday, the 19th, I'm now $600 over $1,000 for my knighthood.
	I'll try to finish before long, but the money might be tight.
	I would think so.
	Although Arizona State's a good place.
	And then, finally, Mark Wilson of Glasgow, Scotland.
	I'm sorry, Mark?
	Wilson.
	Wilson, yeah.
	$200, which also came in by Pigeon.
	Fabulous.
	Well, that's very nice.
	A couple of extra mentions, some PR mentions briefly.
	After all of that crap that we went through, one of our other producers, Pedro Dos Santos, was able, without a problem, to get a no-agenda...
	Oh man, my...
	Everything's free now.
	It's like I've got a million things going off at the same time.
	Pedro Dos Santos, producer, was able to get a No Agenda app in the Nokia Ovi store without any permission from us whatsoever.
	Yeah, it sounds like they got their act together, doesn't it?
	Yeah, okay.
	Anyway, so it's in there and that'll work on, if you go to the Ovi store and it actually comes up and it'll work on your phone and there's a whole bunch of other stuff that they do.
	But apparently they have some platforms it won't work on.
	Yeah, but on the newer phones, I guess it's going to be okay.
	I guess one of the platforms that won't work on it is the E900, which means that all five people that have that phone won't be able to listen to the show.
	Yeah, crap.
	Noagenderwords.com is up and running, as I already predicted on the previous show.
	That's great.
	So that's now in the links that rock.
	And then I guess we have to give a giant shout-out to the guy who caused us to receive the most email, because he actually did us a favor.
	This guy who drove around the United States and pinpointed GPS points to create this Reed Ayn Rand signal that shows up on Google Earth.
	I'm, by the way, heading out today by Ayn Rand.
	And you're going to drive it?
	I'm heading out today to do the same thing, but it's going to spell out No Agenda.
	But it'll only be in Berkeley.
	So, no, I'm heading out.
	I'm going to take off right after the show and see how far I get.
	You know, we could easily do this.
	We have producers in all 50 states.
	In fact, we could do it across the entire globe, if you think about it.
	And if people could coordinate that into, like, NoAgendaGPSBatsignal.com...
	I don't know.
	You know, somebody's going to have to work on the technology for that because here's the deal.
	That guy has a single, you know, essentially it's his signal.
	And so he would go and tag the GPS system in all these different spots to spell out the wordage.
	Right.
	But you can't just have anybody, I mean, because everybody's tagging the GPS system constantly to coordinate it so it actually spells something.
	It has to be the exact same phone or GPS device.
	No, it doesn't.
	No, it doesn't have to be that way.
	There's no other way of having the Google Earth thing show up that way.
	No, but it's just the KML file.
	Everyone can collect the coordinates and take pictures along their route, and then someone else can just assemble it all and put it all together.
	That would work.
	I'd like to see that.
	That's not the way he did it.
	No, I know it's not the way he did it, but it's the way we could do it.
	We could have enough producers go to certain points, tag it, and have it spell no agenda in the morning and have it circumvent the globe so we can top this guy.
	Well, we could.
	The circumvention idea, like, so it's all over.
	Yeah, so it's all around the world.
	Including the middle of the ocean.
	So we would like to thank Sir Paul Couture in the order of the mint, Matthew Moss, Carol Jordan, Dave in Vegas as our executive producers, and our associate executive producers, Robert Majors, Brian Kaufman, and Mark Wilson.
	This is a real credit.
	You are now the producers and associate executive producers, the executive producers and associate executive producers of No Agenda, episode 226.
	Display it proudly.
	It's a real credit, and we will vouch for you.
	Everybody else out there, including the chat room.
	Gotta go out and propagate the formula.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	New World Order And let's all say it together now.
	Shut up, slave!
	Hot Pockets!
	And I apologize to some of the fans of the duck call.
	Yeah, where is the duck call?
	Because I seem to have misplaced the duck call.
	Did you leave it up north?
	No, I didn't take it out of the house.
	I put it down somewhere and I don't know where it is.
	Speaking of up north, by the way, it looks like Bill Gates' dad is now on a crusade to get a 5% state income tax in Washington State.
	This isn't going to go over too well with the people living well.
	Yeah, because he's one of the few people that can afford it.
	Washington State's one of the states that is a personal income tax haven.
	Yeah, that's why you're up there, right?
	There's no personal income tax.
	We're taxed to death as it is.
	So, this idiot wants to add a personal income tax to the state of Washington, and hopefully they'll be rejected soundly by the public, and anyone who votes for it in the legislature will vote these people out of office immediately.
	Well, I don't know.
	And he should be rebuked.
	It's easy for him to be able to pay an extra 5%.
	What does that mean, rebuked?
	He's going to have a downturn if he hasn't noticed, or maybe he hasn't.
	Wait a minute, rebuked.
	This is a good one for NoAgendaWords.com.
	What does rebuked mean?
	Told to stuff it.
	Definition of rebuked.
	Told to stuff it.
	Nice.
	Yeah.
	Well, I thought that was interesting because I know I'm sure...
	And shunned.
	You should be shunned.
	Bane.
	He's Bane forever.
	You know, it's really interesting that these rich guys, especially with the multi-billionaire sons, can, you know, demand more taxation on the rest of us and think that they, you know, above everybody else.
	It's unbelievable to me.
	I mean, the nerve of the guy.
	Yeah, it's pretty amazing, right?
	Yeah, it's pretty amazing.
	It's amazing.
	Why does he just shut up?
	Slave.
	There's a picture of him in the Wall Street Journal, too.
	He looks just like Bill Jr.
	Only older.
	Bill's actually starting to look more like him.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, so it's for rich people, John.
	Don't worry about it.
	5% tax rate on incomes above $200,000 or $400,000 for married couples, and it would climb to 9%.
	That's not ultra-rich.
	Hey, if the government worker average pay is $125,000, get a clue.
	Yeah, you're pretty unhappy about that, aren't you?
	Unless you're making over half a million dollars a year, you're not making really much money.
	You're just getting by.
	I did not hear the Dvorak Horowitz Unplugged show, and maybe this news came out after you did it.
	Did you guys do one on Tuesday?
	No, we did it Wednesday.
	Okay.
	Did you get the Hindenburg Omen news in there?
	No.
	Do you know what this is about?
	No.
	Oh, well, I'm sure you guys will be talking about it.
	This is now everywhere.
	Wall Street Journal, everyone's talking about this.
	This is the so-called Hindenburg Omen, named after the famous German airship that crashed in Lakers, New Jersey in 1937.
	It's a technical indicator that foreshadows not just a bear market, but a stock market crash.
	This was created by a blind mathematician.
	His name is Jim Mika.
	This indicator is now predicting a market meltdown for September.
	It's...
	It's like there's five criteria that are supposed to be met for this Hindenburg omen.
	See, the daily number of the New York Stock Exchange, new 52-week highs, and the daily number of the 52-week lows both have to be greater than 2.2% of the total issues traded that day.
	It's all these technical things.
	You can look at it in the show notes to see all these five indicators, but it includes like the McClellan oscillator.
	It has to be negative on the same day.
	You know, this is actually good news because the more people come out and talk about the thing collapsing, the less likely it is to happen.
	That's what I was going to ask you.
	That's what I was going to ask you.
	But I just find the whole association with the Hindenburg so amazing because, and John, you're old enough to remember this, Oh yeah, I remember the Hindenburg crashing.
	I was 20.
	It's a famous piece of journalism history.
	Listen to it.
	Here it comes.
	The motors of the ship are just holding it just enough to keep it.
	It bursts into flames.
	Wait, wait.
	Get this shot.
	Get this shot.
	It's right.
	It's terrible.
	Oh, my.
	Get out of the way, please.
	It's burning, bursting into flames, and it's falling on the morning bath.
	Oh, the folks, this is terrible.
	This is the worst of the worst catastrophe in the world.
	Oh, my.
	The space falls 400 or 500 feet into the sky.
	It's a terrific place, ladies and gentlemen.
	The smoke is enslaved now.
	And the frame is rising to the ground.
	Not twice in the morning bath.
	Oh, the humanity.
	There it is.
	Oh, the humanity!
	There is a cleaned up version of that clip.
	Yeah, I'm sure.
	That you could actually understand.
	Well, it'll sound much better on the podcast than through Skype, okay?
	I'm wondering.
	Who, by the way, are going public.
	What, the Hindenburg?
	Yeah.
	No, Skype.
	Skype is filed to go public.
	Oh, yeah.
	This is the beginning of the end.
	What are we going to do?
	I don't know.
	I guess we'll have to get real tin cans.
	This is bad.
	This is really, really bad.
	Yeah, you know, as soon as they go public...
	Well, actually, here's what my guess is.
	They're going to go public and then they're going to find some way to make it fee-based.
	And if the fees are reasonable, it'll probably cut down on the number of users and maybe improve the quality.
	Well, I think we should look at if...
	I wonder if they've already filed their S1. If they filed their S1, then we can look at what the business case is going to be and how they're going to convince potential investors that this is a good deal.
	Meanwhile, Rupert Murdoch is suing them.
	He says that they can't use the word sky.
	Because sky is a part of the word Skype.
	What?
	He has BSkyB, right?
	That's his...
	That's his satellite corporation.
	Yeah, Sky Services.
	It's a satellite.
	It's like the Dish Network.
	Yeah.
	So he's in a legal battle claiming that he owns the Sky part of the word Skype.
	It's good, right?
	What, is he crazy?
	Who came up with that idea?
	I don't know.
	He's probably really worried that there's going to be some consumer confusion between BSkyB and Skype.
	Yeah.
	Besides that, how can you copyright or trademark the word sky?
	Well, there's a lot of weird trademarks.
	Let's do a trademark on the word the.
	Yeah, well, there's, you know, triple, what was it, triple three-peat?
	What was it that was copyrighted?
	There's a lot of words that are copyrighted you can't use.
	A lot of weird stuff.
	Hey, so they have filed their S-1.
	But it's in the European Union.
	So I wonder what they're going to float it on.
	Will it be the London stock market?
	No.
	Probably.
	I don't know.
	That could be like a really dodgy IPO. It may not be a real one.
	One of those pink slip things.
	Not sure.
	So what do we have for news this week?
	There's not a lot going on.
	No, there's tons of stuff going on.
	I got some kind of real news.
	And now, back to real news.
	A big flap.
	About Dr.
	Laura, who I've never listened to, nor would I ever.
	I've listened to her numerous times because she's on the radio, and I listen to everything to keep in touch with the context and the American psyche.
	Well, this was pointed out to me by my new friend Annie Duke, poker player extraordinaire.
	By the way, I think you'd like Dr.
	Laura, and anyone who's ever listened to her will think that's hilarious.
	You know, I think I actually might like her because there's this...
	Well, I have an audio clip.
	And actually, John, I made clips for this episode.
	Oh, so we don't have to...
	We don't have to listen to pre-rolls and stuff.
	No, we don't have to listen to you complaining about pre-rolls.
	So, she gets a phone call, and this is going to turn into a national conversation you watch.
	She gets a phone call from a woman who is, I think she's married to a black man.
	She's white.
	And the following conversation ensues.
	We had friends over the other day.
	Got about 35 people here.
	The guys were going to start playing basketball.
	I was going to go out and play basketball.
	My bodyguard and my dear friend is a black man.
	And I said, white men can't jump, I want you on my team.
	That was racist?
	That was funny!
	How about the N-word?
	The N-word's been thrown around.
	Black guys use it all the time.
	Turn on HBO, listen to a black comic, and all you hear is nigger, nigger, nigger.
	I don't get it.
	If anybody without enough melanin says it, it's a horrible thing.
	So that's how it starts off, and then she goes to commercial break, because of course, you know, this is mainstream media, so how can you...
	I'm Dr.
	Morris.
	How can you continue a thought?
	But she comes back, and then it just goes from one...
	It just gets...
	The hole gets deeper.
	You're talking to Jade.
	What did you think about during the break, by the way?
	I was a little caught back by the N-word that you spewed out, I have to be honest with you.
	But my point is, race relations...
	Oh, then I guess you don't watch HBO or listen to any black comedians.
	But that doesn't make it right.
	I mean, race is a big thing.
	My dear, my dear, the point I am trying to make...
	...come to another level that's unacceptable.
	Yeah, we've got a black man as president, and we have more complaining about racism than ever.
	I mean, I think that's hilarious.
	So far, I'm liking what she's saying.
	And it's funny, because you're right.
	I think she's saying some really, some stuff that's on a lot of people's minds today.
	Yes.
	But I think, honestly, because there's more white people afraid of a black man taking over the nation.
	They're afraid.
	If you want to be honest about it.
	Dear, they voted him in.
	Only 12% of the population is black.
	Whites voted him in.
	It was the younger generation that did it.
	It wasn't the older white people that did it.
	Okay.
	It was the younger generation.
	All right.
	All right.
	Chip on your shoulder.
	I can't do much about that.
	Yeah, I think you have too much sensitivity and not enough sense of humor.
	Oh, it depends how it's said.
	Is it okay to say that word?
	Is it ever okay to say that word?
	It depends how it's said.
	Black guys talking to each other seem to think it's okay.
	But you're not black.
	They're not black.
	Oh, I see.
	So a word is restricted to race.
	Got it.
	Can't do much about that.
	I can't believe someone like you is on the radio, spewing out the nigger word, and I hope everybody heard it.
	I didn't spew out the nigger word.
	Nigger, nigger, nigger.
	Right.
	I said, that's what you hear.
	Everybody heard it.
	Yes, they did.
	I hope everybody heard it.
	They did, and I'll say it again.
	Nigger, nigger, nigger is what you hear on HB. Why don't you let me finish a sentence?
	It just goes on.
	She keeps saying it over and over again.
	And it's great.
	And by the way, nigger should definitely be in noagendawords.com with the correct definition.
	And I gotta tell you, John, I agree with her.
	This has bothered me for a long time.
	People from outside the United States, and I deem myself to be somewhat of a Euro-American, don't understand how a word can be banned that way.
	Well, you know, that's interesting because it became an issue with, and in fact, I have a clip of all things.
	Schlesinger's got herself in trouble a number of times.
	And in fact, one of the times it got so bad that she basically was going to be taken completely off the air.
	And a woman who was a talk show host down in Southern California...
	And by the way, when I play this clip, people are going to go, oh, these guys are rehearsing the show.
	Which clip is it?
	It's the Tammy Bruce clip.
	Oh, we're not rehearsing the show.
	Wait a minute, Tammy Bruce?
	No, I know.
	I'm just saying because it's just a coincidence I happen to have a clip that addresses it.
	There's nothing called Tammy Bruce here, so just so you know.
	It's the now clip.
	Oh, okay.
	So, Tammy Bruce was one of the executives at NOW, the National Organization for Women, and she quit in a huff.
	And we played some clips from this interview once before, months and months ago.
	But she quit in a huff over two or three incidents that happened to her.
	One was, and she explains it in here, and one of them involved Laura Schlesinger and her free speech issues.
	And maybe we should play that clip and we can see how this is evolving.
	Which spurred, of course, my second book, The Death of Right and Wrong, about a year and a half later.
	But, yeah, so talk radio up until now, left now, the National Organization for Women in 1997.
	How did you get, though, from now to being a conservative author?
	You know, it was really a fight within the National Organization for Women during the O.J. Simpson trial out here.
	I saw that, I think, as most Americans did, and certainly as an activist feminist at the time, about the importance of the issue of domestic violence, which is colorblind.
	Women don't notice the complexion of the fist heading toward their face.
	And it was an issue that had been really ignored because it wasn't sexy.
	It was difficult sometimes to find for the press, the victim sympathetic.
	So we finally had attention.
	And it started to move that it was an issue of race, which of course was obscene and was an insult to every woman who faces this, of all races and ethnicities.
	And so that became an internal fight, and I realized that something had happened, that when I was being asked by the national office to retreat on that issue, that the issues of race were more important.
	You know, there's a lot of organizations that deal with race in the country, and that's an important issue.
	But my job was to deal with issues of women.
	All women that fit within that envelope.
	And so that was a wake-up call.
	In addition to the attacks on Laura Schlesinger, I noticed an interesting trend to this demand for surrender and retreat.
	A demand, in general, socially, for people not to speak up.
	And on my issues, you know, look, I think dealing with violence against women is nonpartisan.
	I was always a little bit of a thorn in the side, and now, because my politics really were, I thought we should organize ourselves out of business.
	And another click for me was when I was told by my mentor now that it was important to rub salt into the wound so that we would always be needed.
	That wasn't my method.
	My method was success.
	So I realized I could do more on the issues that matter to me by being outside of the organization, that I could be freer to speak my mind, and that certainly ended up being the case.
	So the Laura Schlesinger initial thing that she got involved with was apparently Schlesinger said something about gay women or something that got everybody worked up, very similar to the situation occurring now.
	And Tammy Bruce is a lesbian.
	Is she hot?
	She says she's a lesbian.
	She's not like a hidden lesbian.
	But is she hot?
	She's in kind of a Berkeley kind of way.
	Okay, a Berkeley lesbian kind of way.
	She has unwashed hair.
	She's not a bad looking woman.
	So anyway, so she came out.
	So she defended Schlesinger because it's a free speech issue.
	And this is going on.
	I mean, this is again a free speech issue.
	Now, that said...
	You know, it's one of those things like the mosque in New York.
	It's just one of these things that just triggers a lot of stuff.
	Schlesinger's in for a shitstorm here.
	Well, she already came out and apologized.
	She came out and said, oh, you know what?
	She gets slammed.
	She'll get kicked off the air.
	The sponsors will close down her show.
	This is one of the problems, of course, with commercial broadcasting.
	Exactly.
	Which we talk about every so often.
	We can do whatever we want.
	I mean, we get a lot of nasty notes occasionally.
	Yeah, from time to time.
	How come they're always directed at me?
	Well, for good reason.
	The point is that we don't have a sponsor that can pull the plug on the show.
	All we have to do is either ignore the nasty notes, or we can apologize, or we can say...
	Essentially, the listeners are the sponsors, and so if they complain to us, and they're big sponsors, in other words, they...
	They contribute a lot.
	We tend to probably...
	We'll apologize to them very quickly.
	But it's not the same as apologizing to somebody who's selling cars or selling drugs.
	Yeah, we have conversations all the time with our listeners.
	One guy was offended about something I said about the apparently gay flight attendant who pulled the chute.
	And then what's interesting is you shoot him an email back, and then he's like, well, hey, you got a point there, and actually that'll come up later in our knighting of Dame Carol Jordan.
	He said, well, there's a couple of things I'd like to point out, and then it usually turns out okay.
	People are reasonable.
	Yeah, well, we do communicate with our listeners in a very common way.
	I mean, we don't get back to everybody, but we get back to a heck of a lot more people than almost anybody else doing this kind of show.
	Yeah.
	But anyway, so this is kind of an interesting thing.
	Tammy Bruce is a very interesting...
	She's an interesting person as a former now-out lesbian and a conservative talk show host.
	The combination is hard to argue against because it's like, well, you know, your perspectives.
	It's a weird perspective to take.
	I think on the conservative side, there's a lot more people that are...
	Have reasonable discussion points than you see on the liberal side, which is very knee-jerk in the whole thing.
	It's very depressing to listen to Tom Hartman, for example.
	Tom.
	Tom, sorry.
	Tom Hartman is very hard to listen to because it makes you cringe that he's just going...
	It's more than just talking points.
	It's like a litany.
	That they stick to, and it's weird.
	But there is something going on, I guess, on the conservative side.
	Glenn Beck, you brought up the mosque.
	By the way, this is very interesting how this is propagating throughout the United States of Europe.
	People are emailing me, and we talked about this months ago, I think, when it first came to committee in New York to build this mosque slash community center.
	Yeah, we talked about it immediately.
	Yeah, and we're like, oh, whatever, you know, this is crazy, but it's all right.
	But in Europe, they're like, wow, we can't believe that this is an...
	Outrage!
	You know, the place where the Muslims...
	And it's like, wow!
	I mean, it's one thing to say they're a bunch of terrorists, which, of course, we know it was all an inside job, but that doesn't matter.
	The story is it was a bunch of terrorists with box cutters who did amazing things with airplanes.
	But to say, oh, it's Muslims, and what a slap in the face to have a mosque at Ground Zero.
	So Glenn Beck goes on the...
	What is the name of that show?
	It's like Red Light or something at night on Fox.
	It's like a talk show.
	It's on like after midnight or something.
	Yeah, nobody watches it.
	Nobody watches it except me.
	You're staying up too late.
	Yeah, well, I watch a Billy Idol.
	Can I play a little clip?
	Yeah, play.
	Okay.
	This is...
	This is Beck?
	This is Beck with a guy from Red Eye, I think it's called.
	Did you get a recorder?
	Why are you having all these clips now?
	Because I was tired of my...
	How are you doing it?
	Do you have a recorder?
	Yeah, it's called the iPhone.
	Did you get an H2 or what did you do?
	No, I just used the iPhone.
	The iPhone 4 is pretty outstanding when it comes to this stuff now.
	Thank you, Steve Jobs.
	And the author of The Bible of Unspeakable Truths.
	No, I guess he...
	Yeah, okay.
	Which you have to read.
	It's laugh out loud funny.
	Okay, so, Greg.
	Yes?
	Give me your proposal.
	Well, you know, I was thinking, I went on to their website, the Cordoba House website.
	It's a lovely website, and they talk about preaching tolerance and communication.
	And I thought, how interesting is it that they're preaching tolerance and communication to Americans?
	Wouldn't it be great to test their tolerance?
	So I figured, let's open an Islam-friendly gay bar next door to the mosque.
	That's my proposal.
	So that by itself is like, okay, ha ha ha.
	But then they go off, John, and they start coming up with names for the gay bar?
	It's just like, whoa.
	I'm sticking by it.
	I'm not a good businessman, and I'm a terrible activist, but this might be the greatest idea I've ever had.
	But you are very, very funny.
	So are you...
	Am I joking?
	I mean, yeah, what I'm saying is...
	Well, give me some of the names of the...
	Well, I like...
	I like Jihad.
	G-Hot?
	Or G-Hunk?
	How about Infidelicious?
	Or Turbine Cowboy?
	Do you like Turbine Cowboy?
	My favorite?
	What?
	Suspicious Packages.
	Yes, that's a nice one.
	That's funny shit, man.
	They wrote some good stuff there.
	There's a couple more.
	Ramadam?
	Yeah, there are other ones that I don't think I should mention.
	You mecca me hot?
	Yes.
	I mean, it's like, so are we just out and out going to go insult everybody now?
	We got niggers, we got gay Muslims.
	It's like, whoa, this is like, who wrote the memo and what exactly did it say?
	What are we supposed to be doing here?
	I don't know.
	It's interesting that this would be going on.
	This has to do with the suppression of free speech.
	And it's starting to crop up.
	The resistance to it is cropping up in all sorts of ways.
	Because essentially we've been...
	Butt-bomber.
	I'm sorry, John.
	The chat room is doing some names.
	Butt-bomber.
	G-fabulous.
	That's crazy.
	The fact is, we don't have a First Amendment anymore.
	You can't do this, you can't do that.
	You can't say this, you can't say that.
	In fact, I have another clip on there, which has to do with this.
	If I can figure out which one it is.
	Yeah, it's free speech, I bet, right?
	Yeah, that would be it.
	We might as well just play that, just to stay in the mood.
	The result of that would be, you get five years for arson.
	And what is this?
	Where is this from?
	This is a guy talking about his book, which is...
	I don't know what the hell book it is, but it just mentions...
	It used to be an eco-terrorist, and now he gets thrown in jail for just speaking.
	And is this on C-SPAN? Yeah, C-SPAN. The result of that would be you get five years for arson, and under those current laws back at that time, he got caught, and he did exactly five years for arson, and he got out.
	It was a calculation on his part.
	He didn't know that somewhere down the line there could be a terrorism enhancement on something like that that could put you in jail basically for life.
	But also he didn't know that about 15 years, 20 years later, he was making a speech in San Diego and someone asked him a question about how he used to make his incendiaries.
	And this is a guy who now has two kids and he's kind of on a lecture circuit and he's doing his thing.
	And he answered the question And they got him for that.
	And they tried to get him for 18 years for terrorism, for answering the question.
	Because it's now, you know, I guess you have to watch what you say.
	It was about a very little known law, about teaching people to make incendiaries.
	And they didn't get him for the 18 years, but they did get him to take a plea, and he did a year and a day.
	So, you know, as far as how it's affecting, people are really very confused because, you know, there may not be the political will to...
	Make some of these big changes that we talked about.
	There's plenty of political will to go after targeted people like anarchists and eco-radicals because it sends a message that these are not the ways that we should be doing these things.
	But we've got to be careful about how far that can be pushed.
	I want to point one thing out besides this situation with this guy who got thrown in jail for a year for just talking.
	And people, well, it's 9-11, it's the Patriot Act.
	This began way before 9-11.
	I remember, and you probably can recall this incident, that a...
	A Russian kid, speaking at one of the conferences around 98, 99, came out and discussed, reverse engineered some Adobe copy protection scheme and explained it to the audience.
	Oh yeah, he talked about it.
	I do remember this, yeah.
	All he did was talk about it.
	And it resulted in him being arrested under some...
	DMCA. Yeah, DMCA. DMCA. And he was thrown in jail.
	For just talking about something.
	And then he got out on bail and just headed out of the country and went to Russia and refused to return.
	For good reason, by the way.
	Anyone see?
	Here's a classic movie for the entertainment guys in their movie club.
	I was a prisoner on a chain gang done with Paul Muni in the 30s.
	And here's a guy.
	It's a great movie because it shows how the guy was railroaded.
	And this Russian kid wasn't going to take any chance with this stupid system.
	And he went back to Russia where he was safer than he would be here, which is a disgusting concept.
	But the point is that all he did was talk.
	So our free speech is gone.
	People don't think so.
	They're crazy.
	Do you think maybe this is...
	Here's just a wild theory.
	So we know that the fairness doctrine has been cropping up.
	The left, who of course...
	Their talk shows and their radio, certainly on the radio, is just almost non-existent.
	And there's been a lot of talk, even from the White House, about, oh, we've got to put the fairness doctrine back into effect, which means you have to give equal airtime on everything, literally everything you say, which is just ludicrous.
	I mean, you couldn't have a show anymore.
	Do you think maybe the FCC ruling that essentially said, oh, you can use all kinds of expletive words after the watershed, which is after, I think, 10 p.m.
	Do you think they're trying to...
	Is it 10?
	I think it's 10 generally, but it was always wide open after 11 or midnight.
	Do you think maybe it's like, let them all go crazy, let them all say all these outrageous things, and then it'll become public topic of discussion.
	Everyone's going to be outraged by Dr.
	Laura saying nigger, by this whole Glenn Beck gay thing, which of course is patently offensive to homosexuals.
	And Muslims alike.
	And Muslims alike.
	It's a double hit.
	And then we're going to clamp down.
	This has gotten out of control.
	We've got to put in regulation.
	Do you think that's possible?
	I like it.
	And by the way, when people label me a conspiracy theorist, that's offensive to me too.
	That has now become a bad word.
	It's like everyone can be offended about something.
	Well, yeah, you can be offended about something.
	Everyone can.
	The conspiracy theorist thing has become a meme in the culture to marginalize anybody who has any thoughts that are outside of whatever's lockstep that's in the checklist.
	And not just in our U.S. culture.
	People in the Netherlands, who I met in Bonaire, said, Oh, you are a conspiracy theorist.
	I say, yeah, that's what I am.
	So they already have the meme.
	It's spread worldwide.
	It's like, oh, when you talk about things like, oh, I don't know.
	WTC7 won't go away.
	Then you're a conspiracy theorist.
	Well, you are.
	Well, all right, old man.
	I'll just be ageist on you.
	You're old, is what you are.
	Yeah, that's true.
	And you're an ageist, too, you crumb.
	Yeah, that's what I just said.
	You want to slam me, I'll slam you back.
	What are you slamming?
	You're not slamming...
	Yeah, when I say you're an old man, that's very rude.
	Let's put it this way.
	You're no Billy Idol, okay?
	So you have a crush on Billy Idol now is what you're telling me.
	No, I have a crush on Steve Stevens.
	He had this guitar that lit up.
	It was fucking awesome.
	Lit up?
	I never heard of the guy.
	Steve Stevens?
	Oh my god!
	He's a legend.
	I've heard of Billy Idol, of course.
	Steve Stevens is amazing.
	He's a great guy.
	And you've heard of Bobby Eden.
	Yeah, cool.
	Well, everyone has ever since she took on and made that bet.
	That public bet.
	She says some people were actually very angry.
	Very, very angry.
	Yeah, well, I was.
	Well, we're going to talk about it in the hot tub on Wednesday.
	Yeah, we're good.
	So anyway, I have just a fabulous little ditty that I came across.
	You filtered that hot tub?
	We cleansed it before we moved in.
	I would cleanse it after, if I were you.
	Can we go ahead?
	So there's this story on Gizmodo, which actually was a rewrite from The Atlantic, the monthly magazine, I guess.
	And so Gizmodo titled it, How Ankle Monitors Could Replace Prisons.
	And so, you know, it's like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, you know, all this stuff, and basically they just ripped off the Atlantic magazine, which had an article called Prison Without Walls, which, by the way, shows you how lame Gizmodo is.
	They don't do their own reporting, they just take someone else's reporting, and Atlantic did some actual work here.
	Yeah, it's called a blog.
	Yeah.
	It's called a blog.
	There's another swear word, blogger, you damn blogger.
	It's like saying booger, you damn blogger.
	So this is about the whole idea of ankle bracelets reducing, and it's fantastic when you think about it, John.
	When you think about the setup, and then I'm going to punch you, I'm going to hit you right in the mouth with some great details.
	So, of course, we've got this prison system, which is completely commercialized.
	It's great to throw people in jail, because the jails get money per head, but what if...
	And they also get to put people to work.
	No pay.
	This is slave labor.
	Yes.
	Well, what if we could make it even a little bit better, and instead of having to go through the whole issue of taking care of these prisoners, these poor saps who were caught smoking weed.
	$20,000 a year, typically.
	Yeah.
	But that's coming out of their bottom line.
	So why don't we just lock them up in their own home, And use these bracelets for all these different crimes.
	Because this is not just about the scram bracelet.
	And so in this article, I find the name of the company, Bi Incorporated, which is just funny by itself, BI. And they actually have the domain bi.com, which I can only imagine was a hot ticket.
	To get by.com.
	And you need to look at this website.
	Find company based in Colorado, I might point out.
	These guys are amazing, John.
	So they were incorporated in 1978 in Boulder, Colorado as an engineering and consulting firm.
	And they make all these amazing products.
	I mean, just their technology and treatment solutions page.
	Let's see, we've got the BI Executrack 1, we've got the BI Home Guard 200, the BI Voice ID, the BI TAD, the BI Total Access.
	The BI Sobriater, that's my favorite.
	It looks like a gun.
	Oh yeah, yeah.
	But look at the BI Drive-By.
	And it's spelled B-I-Drive-B-I, where you just drive by the slave's home to see if they're there.
	You know, it registers just from outside the door.
	These guys, they are the company.
	I wish I could invest in them.
	Is it a public company?
	You can invest in it.
	No, I think it's private.
	But look at their partners.
	The change companies.
	Microsoft.
	Moral Reconation Therapy.
	Sprint.
	And then look at their associations.
	This is fantastic.
	American Correctional Association, American Prohibition and Parole Association, National Association of Counties, American Jail Association, Federal Probation and Pretrial Officers Association, International Community Corrections Association, National Association of Drug Court Professionals, National Association of Pretrial Services Agencies, National Association of Probation executives, National Sheriffs Association, the Washington Association of Sheriffs and Police Chiefs.
	The fix is in.
	You're not going to jail anymore.
	Slave, you're at home.
	And you've got a buy bracelet on.
	You've got Gitmo jewelry draped from your wrists and your ankles.
	Now the only thing I thought is, they do have a resellers page.
	I thought maybe we could become a qualified buy reseller in our area.
	I think we should.
	Some slight irony there.
	The Buy Reseller Program.
	Connecting for success.
	This is an awesome, awesome company.
	But I don't think they're public.
	I think they're...
	No, they're not.
	I tried to...
	There's no evidence they're public.
	They're private.
	But these are the guys...
	And they probably stay that way because there's some sort of underlying scam here.
	And they can't probably reveal...
	I mean, if you're public, you've got to tell all.
	Right.
	Well, of course.
	What the scam is is that they've basically...
	They've got it all.
	They're working with all these associations.
	The whole idea is the prisons are full.
	Screw it.
	We'll just keep you in your home, slave.
	Shut up.
	Here's a bracelet.
	Ka-chunk.
	Done!
	Done!
	I love this.
	What a gem of a find in Boulder, Colorado.
	Yeah, I'll give you a 10 on this one.
	Thank you.
	But now you've depressed everybody.
	No!
	Well, this does go along with this news story.
	So why is Microsoft a partner?
	That's what I'd like to know.
	Yeah.
	Do I really have to explain?
	Come on.
	They're the technology partner, of course.
	They're creating all this stuff.
	It's already in your PC. It's already in Vista or Windows 7 or whatever it is.
	And this is why they're doing it.
	A Texas man convicted of DWI for the ninth time will be spending the rest of his life in prison.
	Last month, a jury found 52-year-old Bobby Joe Stovall guilty of driving while intoxicated.
	A judge has now sentenced him to life in prison.
	In July of 2009, Stovall crashed his truck in Round Rock, Texas.
	A blood sample showed his blood alcohol level was.32, four times the legal limit in Texas.
	Stovall has half a dozen convictions for other crimes as well.
	So, you know...
	What other crimes?
	Oh, they don't tell you that.
	How can they only emphasize that?
	No, they don't tell you that.
	It doesn't matter.
	The whole point is...
	What's the guy's name again?
	Stovall?
	Yeah.
	I have to think of a webpage on it as well.
	Let me see.
	ABC News.
	They might actually have information.
	Bobby Stovall, 54, same age as Billy Idol, was driving his truck in Round Rock, Texas, early July.
	He weaved through several lanes of traffic, blah, blah, blah.
	Let's see if the other...
	Well, he was convicted nine times.
	The guy does not deserve to be on the road, obviously.
	No, he's a drunk.
	Yeah, but instead of...
	They throw him in jail for life!
	So instead of doing that, which is a pain in the ass, you've got to take care of this guy, you've got to feed him.
	It's better to have the slave feeding himself in his own house.
	And you can make him work.
	You can make him do all kinds of work.
	Call centers.
	Lick envelopes.
	Yeah, he can do all kinds of stuff in the comfort of his own home.
	And if he drinks, or sex lines, anything.
	If he drinks or anything like that, you know, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop.
	So this Buy Incorporated, these guys, I mean, they're going to clean house if they aren't already because it's an annuity.
	It's not just, you know, the bracelet.
	It's the service.
	I'm sure Microsoft is providing the service.
	You know, the back end, the cloud.
	You're connected to the cloud, slave.
	It's just phenomenal.
	This is why, you know, what's the name of the guy who had this conspiracy show and he was the governor of Minnesota for some reason?
	Jesse Ventura.
	Jesse Ventura was on something the other day.
	I think we played the clip.
	He actually lives in Mexico now because he thinks it's a safer, more freedom-loving place.
	He's probably right.
	That's pathetic.
	I don't understand how the public continues to put up with this.
	I mean, this character here has got issues.
	They should put him into some sort of a treatment program.
	There's some Ministry of Truth about Mexico, which I found to be very interesting.
	The Associated Press, and we know how, at least I think that we can safely say that they are often associated with information coming from the Central Intelligence Agency.
	Listen to this report, John, and you stop me when you...
	This is from AP, right?
	Mexico City.
	An anonymous 20-something blogger is giving Mexicans what they can't get elsewhere.
	An inside view of their country's raging drug war.
	Operating from behind a thick curtain of computer security.
	Do you want to stop me yet?
	Keep going.
	Blog Del Narco in less than six months has become Mexico's go-to internet site at the time when mainstream media are feeling pressure and threats to stay away from the story.
	I'm telling you, this thing is a complete CIA website.
	Many postings, including warnings and a beheading, appear to come directly from drug traffickers up here.
	Others depict crime scenes accessible only to military or police.
	The mysterious blogger hides his identity behind an elaborate cyber screen.
	The Associated Press wrote to the blog's email address, hosted on Google, I might point out, and the blogger called back from a disguised phone number.
	I mean, this is like, you can just see the guys at the agency writing this up.
	Well, they've already field tested with the WikiLeaks, this type of thing.
	Yeah.
	He said he's a student in northern Mexico majoring in computer security.
	There we go.
	There's your cyber threat meme.
	That he launched the blog in March as a, quote, hobby.
	But it has now grown to hundreds of postings a day and three million hits a week.
	And so it goes on and on with all of this really elaborate language at the very end here.
	It's kind of funny.
	Uh...
	He says mainstream media was stealing his content, so he doesn't feel bad about stealing theirs, until the National Millennial Television Network aired the Prison Warden video and credited Blog Del Narco.
	Its daily hits went up 30%.
	So apparently they know exactly what's going on with this blog, which if you do a who is on lblogdelnarco.com, it's registered by Protected Domain Services in Denver, Colorado.
	Ha ha ha!
	Here, listen.
	Well, that's just a front.
	Yeah.
	Okay, here.
	I've got it open.
	And so I looked at it.
	No, no.
	Do you see the translate button?
	I hit the translate button and the translation.
	This is the giveaway to me that something's fishy.
	The translation is perfect.
	I know.
	It's beautiful, isn't it?
	Let me read the headline of the first posting.
	The Mexican Army said that soldiers are not murderers.
	And then I'll read it.
	The commander of the...
	Fourth Military Region, Guillermo Seraño, said Saturday that Mexican Army soldiers are not murderers and only respond to the aggressions of organized crime.
	This is like it was written in English, translated to Spanish, or it would translate back perfectly.
	And just put the button there, just to make it look good.
	It's fantastic.
	This is...
	You're right.
	I mean, when I saw this, I'm like, oh, Ministry of Truth.
	Completely.
	Yeah, no, the translation is absolutely, you know, most of the time there's some screwiness.
	This is like perfect translation.
	Hey, guys, you know, try to make it a little funkier.
	Yeah, I mean, mess it up a bit.
	Try to pull the wool over the public's eyes.
	So when you see that AP press release essentially with all these like shrouded in a veil of secrecy, a secret phone number, a secret email address, the things hosted on Google, they can track who this guy is no problem.
	It's like Google's in on it.
	They're hosting it for him.
	In Mexico, for years now, journalists couldn't do anything.
	They mentioned a guy who has a drug cartel.
	He'd be dead.
	He did shoot him.
	And this is a workaround to get the information out to both Americans and Mexicans without having to worry about something.
	It's not going to stop.
	You can't stop this guy.
	And it comes right along with the following story.
	Shooting in Monterey, four dead.
	This is from Gallup, which, you know, who the hell knows about polls?
	In U.S., confidence in newspapers and TV news remains a rarity.
	So I think if I look at this and this poll, which, you know, I guess it was really important to do this poll and this trend.
	They've been tracking it since 1990.
	People don't, which I think is a lie, an out-and-outright lie.
	People are saying they don't believe the news, the mainstream news.
	I don't buy that for a second.
	I think people totally buy it.
	I believe that what's going to happen is we're going to get a whole bunch of these Del Narco sites.
	They're proxy sites.
	Yeah, which is going to look like some anonymous blogger behind a shield, a screen of secrecy.
	But this is going to be the new information system.
	So they're going to tell you, network news, no good.
	It's no good.
	No one believes in it.
	You shouldn't be believing in this.
	And then they're going to start propagating all these blogs, which will be the new version of the truth.
	Yeah, and these things can be just complete fronts.
	It can be.
	That's what they're going to be.
	That's what they are.
	That's what this is.
	But again, they're just testing these things.
	Oh yeah, it's all beta right now.
	But it'll get there.
	It'll get there.
	Where do all these photos come from?
	Here's a photo on the second page of this blog with 66 comments that is...
	I've never heard of this.
	I've never heard of this thing.
	...in the hangar.
	The photo's official from somewhere.
	Where did the guy get the photo?
	Oh, it's only from military.
	Only military and police can get these photos.
	That's what the article says.
	So how does he get them?
	From the military and police, of course!
	They're handing it to him.
	They're writing it.
	We've got to be on the lookout.
	We need a busted blog site or something so we can call this type of crap out when it happens.
	Because people will start believing in this shit.
	Amazing though, right?
	Yeah, good catch.
	Meanwhile, there's a video here of some woman doing something weird.
	I'm not playing the videos anymore.
	I bet he has pre-rolls.
	Mostly, yes.
	Hey, we might as well make some money on it as well.
	Get some Google ads in there.
	This is good.
	This is really good.
	This is going to rock.
	So we've talked for an hour already?
	Almost, yeah.
	Almost.
	We should go into our knighthood and compliment moment.
	Okay.
	I'm down with that.
	Let me bring up the L spreadsheet.
	As we explained, or as we explain every week, this show is listener-supported, and we need listener support to continue to do the show.
	We have bills to pay, unfortunately.
	And so anyone who wants to donate can go to dvorak.org slash na and take on one of the programs we have, including the $33.33 boarding pass to the spaceship that Adam...
	It's the mothership.
	Not a spaceship.
	It's the mothership.
	Some mother of a ship is coming.
	Oh, hold on a second, John.
	I almost forgot.
	I'm so sorry.
	There you go.
	We have to have our NPR telephones ringing.
	Yeah, we're going to have a ringing going on in the background from now on.
	We're just not going to stop it.
	My Yamaha keyboard has better ringtones than that.
	Well, now you say that, right?
	But that is not true because I was sent...
	Here it is.
	The official, the universal telephone ring.
	This is Hollywood Lost and Found.
	This is the quintessential...
	Actually, it's only this one.
	The one you're hearing right now.
	This is the...
	That one's good.
	That's the one they use on PBS. This is the one that has been used, which actually was produced at Universal Studios in the 70s for the Rockford Files, which is at the opening of the Rockford Files television show, and the answering machine would pick up.
	This is the ring.
	So this is the one that they always use.
	Right?
	Yeah, that's a good ring.
	That ring I like.
	Okay, so we'll keep that one.
	So just having a ring in the background as we were talking about getting some donation contributions, knighthoods and the rest of it, dvorak.org slash NA. I want to thank some people who donated for the last show, including Randy Asher, of course, who's basically selling t-shirts and giving us a piece of it.
	And he's one of our two lead artists.
	Yes, noagendastuff.com.
	And he did the art for last week's show, as a matter of fact.
	Barbara Starr in Cleveland, Ohio, $60.
	And she has a message which we needed to bring up.
	And let me just jump to that on the email.
	Hi, John.
	I sent a check to the P.O. Box included note asking to renew my yearly subscription and for more No Agenda Karma.
	Last time I sent a check to the local Girl Scout Council...
	They changed their mind and did not close Camp Crowell Hilaka, but kept it partially open.
	They're going to make a final decision on the fate of our beloved camp soon, so please ask any listeners that have camped there to contact friendsofcrowellhilaka.org.
	Please mention our website, because last time you mentioned us, we got some former campers to join us.
	Okay.
	So I think we've done that.
	Yeah, we can maybe put a link in the show notes for the people that like the camp.
	Yeah, I'll put a link in the show notes.
	Let me do that right now, lest I forget.
	It's a tough one.
	You know, they could have had a little snappier name than Friends of CrowellHilaka.org.
	Just a series of random letters would be better than that.
	It's really not a very handy one.
	You were the one in the middle.
	Michael Warner, Vestal, New York, $60.
	Derek Boley in North Sydney, New South Wales, $55.10, double nickels on the dime.
	Maxwell Roberts, double nickels on the dime, Crown Point, Indiana.
	And right at the same list, Rory Buzka.
	Or Busca.
	Busca.
	Busca.
	He's in Carmel, Indiana.
	Two Indiana donations came at exactly the same time with the exact same amount of money, $55.10, which I think was weird.
	Ronald Dawson, which is not unusual considering the random number theory.
	Ronald Dawson, Edmonton, Alberta, $52.
	Then we also have a knighthood layaway with Greg Stone, who I believe is new to that.
	Maybe not.
	Somebody answer the phone!
	What?
	Nobody ever answers that phone.
	No.
	They have all these people.
	They're all online.
	If you don't get through to an operator immediately, just hold on the line.
	We'll be with you momentarily.
	Do you think you can pronounce our Swedish donor here from Joakim Delrud.
	Joakim.
	Is that the one?
	Yeah.
	Joachim Delrud from Bjornlunda.
	He's obviously in the middle of nowhere.
	But no, he's $50.
	Chris Slowinski from Sherwood Park, Alberta, $50.
	And also, insofar as checks are concerned, he did get the Barber Star check.
	Also, Chris Stewart of Ontario, Canada, $75.
	And we want to thank you.
	Thank you.
	All those people and all the ones who joined the $33 subscription or the $30, new $30 lucky subscription, and especially the $5 subscribers.
	Yeah, it's the monthlies that really do help.
	And please, I can't say this often enough, check and see if your subscription is still active.
	PayPal seems to deactivate those from time to time.
	And that's just a shame.
	Even if you come in at a higher number, we'd appreciate...
	Pick up one of those $5 a month subscriptions or one of the boarding passes, because that will really sustain us in the future.
	And also, Alex Liness Brown, a $1 donation.
	We appreciate that, too.
	No douchebags, no de-douching today, although we have to...
	You know, I didn't see...
	I think we're behind on a couple of douchebag call-outs, but they got lost in the email, and the guys are going to have to re-email us.
	But, you know, I'm going to have to remind people that just...
	Especially with me, because they're emailing myself and Adam and sometimes Eric.
	But for me, I happen to be a last-in-first-out type of person when it comes to email.
	So if you email right after this show that, hey, we're supposed to call out so-and-so as a douchebag, it will end up at the bottom of the list by the time the next show rolls around.
	Do it Wednesday night.
	We do have to, I don't know, I guess we forgot this, John Ganotis, Ganotis, Ganotis, on the previous show, he asked in, I guess we did thank him for his support of the show.
	We neglected to mention his site, deviceknit.com, that's knit as in knitting, deviceknit.com, is a place where it helps people.
	The gold one.
	Okay, this is on behalf of...
	Charles Jordan, who has decided to give his knighthood today to his wife, Carol.
	So, Carol, please step forward.
	Oh, she's suave, isn't she?
	She's very nice.
	Carol, thanks to Charles' complete donations and support of the No Agenda show in the amount of at least $1,000, we hereby knight thee, Dame Carol Jordan...
	Dame of the No Agenda Roundtable, please join us here at the roundtable for some Hustlers and Petrus.
	That's our new one.
	We've got Hookers and Blow and Hustlers and Petrus, which is an outstanding cabernet.
	According to Eric, Paul Couture was not...
	No, no, that was for last week.
	I know.
	That's why I didn't do one.
	Stock symbol B-I-A-C. What?
	For buy, according to maybe it's a public company, NASDAQ. Buy is a public company?
	B-I-A-C is the symbol.
	Let's check it out.
	Really?
	How's it doing?
	Is it on the upswing?
	Well, if not, after all, B-I-A-C is fine.
	Dvorak.org slash N-A to support this show, or channeldvorak.com slash N-A. And of course, you can find the link to the support page at noagendashow.com, where you can also find all the show notes, hundreds of links in every single program.
	We have a stream that's running.
	We've got a new show coming onto the stream as well, John, that...
	Our friend Marcus Couch will be producing called The Earthquake Machine, which will be a hard-rockin' show.
	Looking forward to that popping up on the stream pretty soon.
	B-I-A-C is not listed under anything.
	That's not the symbol.
	Generally speaking, most of these companies, if they're publicly listed, will have the symbol in their website.
	In their website.
	Investor relations.
	Usually the tab investors.
	They don't have any of that.
	So I doubt.
	It could be.
	Well, who knows?
	I have an end of show clip, John.
	I just wanted to clear it with you.
	Maybe we should end a little bit early.
	Not that we're ending now, but...
	How long is this clip?
	It's 13 minutes.
	And maybe if I just play 30 seconds of the beginning of it.
	It's of David Icke.
	You'll tell me if you think we should play it or not.
	Thank you.
	Thanks for coming.
	It's about 20 years ago now that I began to...
	This, by the way, is Trafalgar Square in Gitmo Nation East, the 7th of August, so this is a brand new clip.
	To understand not just the scale of pedophilia and child abuse and child abduction and all the rest of it, but the people and the level, cesspit level, known as the elite level of our society, known as the elite level of our society, which is driving it.
	So he calls out President Bush, former prime minister's.
	It's an amazing piece about the pedo bear amongst the elites.
	And I wanted to ask you if you thought it was okay if we played that as an end-of-show clip.
	I think it's too long.
	Too long?
	Then I'll just put it in the show notes.
	I think you should put a link and let people listen to it if they want to.
	Okay, good.
	It's under Pedo Bear, obviously.
	Pedo Bear.
	That's our general name.
	That's where you can find it.
	So, I'd like to give you a little bit more info about the Ted Stevens crash.
	Yeah.
	Some very interesting details.
	So first of all, there's a NOTAM which has been posted, which is a notice to airmen.
	And it's very interesting, because of course you see all these reports, and the idea you get is like this hill, and the mountain, and they crashed into the mountain.
	So they have put up a 25 mile radius no-fly zone from the surface up to 5,000 feet, I'm sorry, a 20.7 nautical mile radius, in Dillingham, Alaska.
	And it says, Effective immediately until further notice, pursuant to CFR section, blah, blah, blah.
	Temporary flight restrictions are in effect for downed aircraft investigation.
	And then they give the coordinates.
	And I've actually, I went to Google Earth, and I put these coordinates in.
	The terrain there is two meters above sea level for a hundred miles radius.
	It's right on the water, right near the bay.
	And if this is where this aircraft went down, it sure as hell didn't fly into a mountain.
	And if that's not where the aircraft went down, why did they put up this no-fly zone there?
	And it's very, very weird.
	And then they have these stories coming out saying, well, Ted Stevens' plane had a terrain warning system.
	Well, they should not have flown in.
	Well, there was nothing to fly into if that's where the no-fly zone is for the downed aircraft.
	There was nothing to fly.
	There were hundreds of miles before you hit anything above 100 meters.
	Yeah.
	Have you seen the pictures, though?
	It is the side of a hill.
	But this is nowhere near where this no-fly zone is.
	So what are you trying to tell us?
	Well, that either...
	Something's fishy.
	We know that.
	Yes.
	Okay, so a couple of things.
	One, the terrain warning didn't go off because there was no terrain to fly into.
	So I don't know.
	I have not seen this picture.
	Can you Skype me a link for this picture that you're talking about?
	I can't Skype you a link.
	It was played on Fox.
	They showed the plane.
	Okay, so that's...
	There you go.
	Ministry of Truth.
	It could have been CNN, but it doesn't make any difference.
	But they showed the plane crash there, and it looks like a classic little small airplane.
	It was the side of a hill.
	Did it have floats on?
	Could you see if the plane had floats?
	No, you couldn't see floats, and all you could see was the top.
	The bottom of the thing was gone, and it was smashed up.
	So it could have just been file footage.
	Who knows what it was?
	I'm just telling you, I saw what they showed.
	So this aircraft, as are all aircraft, is outfitted with an ELT, emergency locator transmitter, which you cannot fly legally without this thing being up to date.
	In fact, mine has to be...
	I have to get a new one because they expire before I can sell my aircraft.
	Yeah, more crap.
	That's always something.
	I'm telling you.
	Oh, it's so painful.
	The paperwork.
	I mean, literally the paperwork to get this done.
	I got people who might want to buy it, but the paperwork is just not done yet.
	It's horrible.
	So the ELT didn't go.
	Now this ELT, if you kick it in the airplane, it'll go off.
	So when you hit something, this thing is wired to essentially go off and send out an emergency beacon.
	Unless, of course, there's some kind of weird radio waves that would disable that, but I'm going to stay away from that.
	So I took a picture.
	Of three points on the map in Alaska.
	I took a picture of this no-fly zone where there are no hills whatsoever, so if that's where the aircraft crashed, it's not on a hill.
	Is it like a big slope, John, or a little slope, or what did it look like to you?
	It was a mild slope.
	It wasn't like the side of a mountain.
	It looked like a small hill.
	Oh, that's possible.
	It's like the Albany Hill in the Berkeley area.
	It's a small hill about maybe 500 feet high, I'm guessing, because you couldn't see too far down.
	But it was a mild slope.
	It wasn't like a steep hill.
	And it was, by the way, grassy.
	So if it's 500 feet, they didn't fly into it.
	They crashed into it.
	Because you're not flying at 500 feet.
	Anyway.
	So then I plotted the HAARP facility, which you can see on Google Earth.
	I mean, there's just a huge array of antennas.
	And here's what was interesting.
	Then I plotted the site of the crash...
	Of Terry, the pilot's son's C-17, if you draw a line from the HAARP facility to Dillingham, Alaska, right in the middle on the very same line is where the C-17 went down.
	So you've been spending a lot of time on Google Earth.
	Well, because you berated me so much, I'm like, wow, man, I'm so confident that this has something to do with HAARP. There's just too much evidence, or seemingly too much evidence, pointing towards it.
	That when you look at this picture, you're just like, wow, coincidence?
	Yeah, maybe, maybe not.
	Oh, I've got a picture of the plane crash here.
	Mr.
	Oil just Skyped it to me.
	Let me take a look.
	Let's see what this hill looks like.
	Right.
	The hill is in the distance.
	Let me see that picture.
	I'll see if it's the same thing I saw.
	Yeah, hold on.
	Let me bring up the Skype here.
	I'm also going to throw this into the chat room so people can play along at home.
	Yeah, the hill is way in the distance.
	This is just a slope.
	Yeah, this looks like the place where it happened.
	So they went down.
	They didn't crash.
	This is nothing like the shot I saw.
	This is not even...
	That little lump must be where the plane is, right?
	Yeah, with the smoke.
	They had a close-up of the plane.
	It's an orange-red colored thing, which you might want to check out if that's the case.
	But that's probably the hill, if that's it, in the background.
	That's a crappy picture.
	That picture's useless.
	Anyway, so I found the coordinates of those three waypoints rather interesting.
	And we did get an email from an Alaskan who said, this guy was an amazing pilot.
	There's no freaking way.
	And he also talked about Stevens being a target, and apparently the Sarah Palin group and Stevens group are out to get each other for some reason.
	I don't know why.
	And it was an interesting little email.
	He was totally convinced that it was a hit.
	So whether it was a hit by Sabotage, whether it was a hit by Harp, which I'm pretty convinced it was.
	There's just too much going on with the Sun's C-17, etc., Regardless, it's old-fashioned, because there's a new way for Two to the Head.
	And this just took place.
	Colin Birch...
	Let me guess.
	Okay.
	Oh, by the way, I would think twice about that hot tub thing you're thinking about.
	Well, listen to this.
	The new way, and this is from Australia, is Death by Hooker.
	Well, at least they're getting creative.
	Here it is.
	Colin Birch, 44, hanged himself from a tree days after he lost his job as an assistant vice president at Deutsche Bank in London.
	The women, Marie Laurent and Alex Sturley, both 35, thought he was playing a kinky sex game and wearing a safety harness.
	They hurled abuse at him, telling him he deserved to die while he stood on a wooden step with a noose around his neck.
	The girls believe, this is from the police report, the girls believe they were used to help kill him without realizing what they were doing.
	It was death by hooker.
	Ms.
	Laurent and Ms.
	Sturley from Katie's lovely escort agency said that Mr.
	Birch, hold on a second, said that Mr.
	Birch had told them to meet them at a wood in Dartford Heath in southeast England on July 30th and pose as his executioners.
	The women told police they left him only for a moment and that during that time he had killed himself.
	Yeah.
	I'm saying, you know, let's not order hookers.
	This is not good.
	So I have this other picture that I just Skyped you from the plane crash.
	Yeah, I'm looking at it right now.
	It's loading.
	And you can see it's just the side of a hill.
	But if you look in the background, this is not that flat.
	It is not as flat as you'd say, but what's he doing there is still another issue.
	This thing is fishy.
	Yeah, this is not at all the same picture.
	You can't quite read out the tail number.
	Can you see what it says?
	455.
	I can't read the tail number.
	And you can't see...
	This may not even be the plane, man.
	It's like N455 something.
	Yeah, I need...
	Bush is, right, obscuring it for some...
	Yeah, of course.
	Does anyone have...
	It's photoshopped.
	But whatever the case, it's a fishy deal, and we're going to leave it at that.
	But the hooker thing, yeah, that could be a problem.
	For you?
	No, he was into kinky sex.
	Yeah.
	Now you do not get killed, but then you leave a legacy of being some sort of a weirdo.
	So let me just say, should I, after this Wednesday's Daily Source Code with Bobby Eden, mysteriously have pulled the lid over the hot tub and killed myself, or have hung myself, and she just looked away for a moment, and she and Mickey were playing Scrabble, or Words with Friends, and I did not kill myself, okay?
	Just so you know, I'm saying it now.
	Damn.
	There are other ways to get you, Curry.
	This is creative, though.
	You gotta hand it to him.
	It's creative.
	It's better than the two shots.
	It's creative.
	Alright, this one has to go now.
	All aboard!
	Train's good, plane's bad.
	Woo!
	Okay, two stories.
	Two amazing ditties.
	Outside of the runaway subway in London, which was funny.
	You heard about that?
	Oh yeah, the subway running away.
	In fact, I'm starting to notice the trends.
	There's actually people taking sides.
	I'm thinking the New York Times is now on the side of planes.
	Well, yeah, and actually there's some more evidence that might corroborate that, but the most interesting, well, there's two stories about Planes Bad, and so Peggy Noonan, not a fan of Ms.
	Noonan's writing.
	She writes this whole essay or op-ed in the Wall Street Journal about, you know, it's basically it's a setup for the video on the page.
	And I want to play the video on the page because this shows you, it's absolutely amazing how this story was planted to show you how bad plane travel is.
	We got off on a little track here, a sidetrack of the guy's a hero and quit your job and all that.
	So the Wall Street Journal, which of course is a part of the Murdoch Empire, and we believe is probably also run by Democrats, they really bring it back with their WallStreetJournal.com report.
	This will slay you, John, when you...
	Opinion Journal!
	Wall Street Journal!
	Arr!
	Oh, Jesus Christ.
	The one thing I didn't think I needed, because I checked it, and it didn't have a pre-roll.
	It's the one thing I didn't have a clip of, and it has a pre-roll.
	I'm sorry.
	It's only IBM. Together.
	Well, at least we're consistent.
	Yeah.
	Hey, IBM slash engines.
	A story this week about a folk hero, Stephen Slater, the flight attendant with JetBlue who made headlines.
	And here to talk about it are my editorial board colleagues, Jason.
	So, editorial board colleagues, that means the shills, right?
	These are the guys who are paid to say whatever is the message.
	Riley and Matt Kaminsky, thanks for joining us.
	Thank you.
	So the news from the news side of the Wall Street Journal this week is that Mr.
	Slater is looking like less and less of a hero.
	People who were on the flight from Pittsburgh to New York earlier this week saying he was abusive.
	He may have had that cut on his head when he got on the flight.
	He was saying, let me get the quote here, he was saying, I need to take care of myself first, honey, when someone asked him for assistance with some coffee that had spilled.
	By the way, another gay reference there.
	They keep pulling that out, the honey thing.
	So we're seeing a picture here emerging of a guy, and I should say there's a question whether this woman who...
	You hear it?
	You hear the setup?
	He claims harassed him even exists, but...
	They're saying that the woman didn't even exist is what they're saying now.
	That she didn't even exist.
	There was no woman with baggage.
	But whether or not his story is true, Jason, you never really bought into the idea that this guy was a hero.
	Not at all.
	I mean, you have to keep in mind, this started as a baggage dispute.
	A woman apparently bought two bags on board, was trying to put them in the overhead when this dispute broke out.
	And Slater is a self-described bag Nazi.
	Now...
	I mean, can it get much better with calling someone on a plane a Nazi?
	John?
	It's getting good.
	Okay, hold on.
	It's just amazing to me that the storyline has been to sympathize with the airline employee.
	Flights have gotten more expensive in recent years.
	They want you at the airport three hours ahead of time for a one-hour flight, which is often delayed if not canceled, where you have little recourse.
	Flights are more expensive and they're serving less food, fewer snacks.
	You have to pay for them.
	You have to pay for bags.
	But they often lose on the way.
	Airline personnel to me.
	How good is this?
	This guy is getting the Star Merit Award of honor for the trains.
	Yeah, he's listing everything as bull crap, by the way.
	You don't have to be three hours.
	It's a lie.
	It's a total lie.
	It's an out-and-out lie.
	It's a lie.
	But the excuse is that, from the journalistic perspective, is, well, I'm just exaggerating a little bit just to make the point that you do have to be there earlier, and they make a big deal out of it and all the rest of it.
	But it's like the laundry list of problems, of complaints.
	He's doing it and exaggerating them all to make it even worse, which is actually he shouldn't be doing.
	But wait, there's more, John.
	It doesn't end there.
	Oh, no.
	The real hero here is the woman.
	We don't want to make generalizations about airline personnel, but Matt, this idea that this guy is a folk hero, that a lot of people seem to not identify with the passengers, but with Slater in this case, even Rush Limbaugh, he was saying maybe the guy was racing home to hear the Limbaugh radio program that day.
	Look, I mean, I think there's a clear reason why we, all of us in some way, sympathize with him.
	He had a bad day at the office.
	He kind of lost it.
	He had his Howard Beale moment.
	You know, I'm mad as hell.
	I'm going to pull the emergency slide and just shoot out of there with the beard in my hand.
	Don't worry, I'm not going to start cursing here.
	I'm sorry I don't want to talk about that.
	But then I think what we're realizing now is that actually it's us passengers who should have this Howard Beale moment.
	Here you go.
	Now the other guy is going to pile jump and do another plane's bad thing.
	I think anyone who's flown domestic in this country must have a masochistic streak in them.
	It is one of the worst experiences, especially compared to 10 years ago.
	My favorite is the fee for the extra piece of luggage, which happens to be your first piece of luggage that you want to check in.
	Matt, people would check more luggage if they thought it was going to arrive with them at their destination.
	It often does not.
	I mean, in the name of safety in the past ten years, in the name of safety, I think airline personnel has been on a power trip.
	And, frankly, they've made airline travel in many ways miserable.
	And, again, my sympathies have always been with this woman, whether she exists or not.
	So, you get the whole point, obviously.
	Yeah.
	But they don't bring the trains in, so I'm not...
	Yeah, they don't need to bring the trains in to...
	I know, I'm saying, but at least they didn't do that.
	We had one other Plains Bad story.
	About the 15-year-olds who took their babysitting money and hopped on a Southwest flight.
	I'm sure you heard about this story, John.
	Yep.
	Southwest Airlines is defending its policy on unaccompanied minors after three Jacksonville children bought plane tickets to Nashville and flew there without their parents even knowing about it.
	Listen to these kids.
	They're totally prepped.
	Three are 15, 13, and 11.
	NBC's Mark Potter reports.
	On a summer day in Jacksonville, Florida, 13-year-old Bobby Nolan was looking for something to do when 15-year-old Bridget Brown sent him a text message.
	I asked him today if he wanted to go to Nashville, Tennessee.
	Welcome to Dollywood!
	They decided to visit the Dollywood theme park using $700 Bridget saved from babysitting.
	Dude, I've babysat before.
	Have you ever saved $700 for babysitting?
	Hey, maybe she babysits a lot.
	And without telling their parents, Bridget, her 11-year-old brother Cody and Bobby, then took a cab to the airport and bought tickets to Nashville.
	Anyway, the clip is way too long, but they bring in the expert.
	Who then, you know, says, oh, there's a huge security hole because anyone under the age of 15, under the age of 18, I think even says, doesn't have to identify themselves because these kids went to the airport, they paid cash, you know, they could have been terrorists.
	That's not true.
	This is what they're saying.
	What's not true?
	I've looked into the TSA rules on this because I fly my daughter back and forth.
	I usually fly with her and I always make sure she has her ID, but it turns out that if you're a parent and you have somebody under 21 or 18 or whatever it is, I guess it's 18, they don't have to have an ID. That is a security hole of sorts.
	The kids do not have to have IDs.
	That's if they're traveling with someone.
	With someone.
	Well, you want to hear the expert?
	So if you have just three kids, do they have no ID? Do we know that for a fact?
	Did the older girl have ID? Well, no, they had no ID. Nobody had ID. No, and this guy even, this guy, it gets into a whole ID thing, where he's like, everyone has some form of ID. You've got a birth certificate, which, by the way, it's not qualified as ID. It doesn't have your picture on it.
	It's not ID. It's ID. Well, listen to this guy.
	Teen are not required to show ID to fly.
	All they need is a valid boarding pass before entering security.
	And Southwest Airlines says under its policies, a 12-year-old can travel alone.
	As for 11-year-old Cody, Southwest says he too was okay to fly because he was accompanied.
	Now listen to the expert who she brought in.
	This was within the rules then, specifically, but a lot of people are saying, does the gate agent, does the ticketing agent have any discretion when they're issuing these tickets, a child's paying cash, and could she have said, where's your mom and dad, do they know you're flying?
	So many alarm bells were going off here.
	First off, the ages of the kids, especially the very young one, they're buying tickets with cash.
	They're buying one-way only tickets.
	There's no parents there.
	There's no ID.
	Any one of those things could have set this thing in motion to ask for a supervisor who might come in and say, hey, kids, do your folks know you're here?
	Right, exactly, just to double-check policy.
	Wherever it was common sense, that's the question people want to know.
	You mentioned Southwest Airlines, and we actually have a specific statement.
	Okay, a couple things jump out.
	Yeah.
	First of all, a 15-year-old kid can get on a bus.
	Yeah, exactly.
	They can get on a local bus, they can get on a Greyhound bus.
	They can go anywhere they want.
	So what difference does it make whether it's a bus or a plane?
	Well, now they're trying to make it a security thing because we're going to have obviously 11-year-olds loading up with bombs.
	And yeah, I guess that could happen in the Middle East, but it's not going to happen here.
	Let's face reality.
	This is a bunch of malarkey.
	It's baloney.
	They had one-way tickets.
	It's like, you know, you kids go in there and get to move there.
	I don't believe they had one-way tickets.
	It doesn't make any sense.
	I don't...
	TSA does not let you through.
	The whole story sounds bogus to me.
	TSA checks your ID against your ticket, and you can't go through security unless you have that.
	Sure, maybe if you're with an adult and you're 15, you don't have to have some form of ID. The oldest girl must have had ID. Well, they say she didn't.
	They say she didn't.
	Something's wrong with the report.
	Well, the thing that's wrong with the only reason why it's a report is because planes are bad.
	Well, I'm not even sure that...
	See, the problem is, could they get on a train and go to Nashville?
	I mean, is that okay?
	This whole report is making me sick.
	Yes.
	Could you just reiterate briefly why we think this whole trains and planes thing is going on?
	Yeah.
	You know, we have one of the greatest transportation systems in the world with our airline system.
	You can go anywhere you want and you can get there rather quickly.
	We're never going to move to trains, which really only works in a compact area like Europe or in places where you've got to control the people more, like maybe China.
	But generally speaking, we're never going to take a high-speed rail from San Francisco to Chicago, or even San Francisco to Los Angeles for that matter.
	The idea, though, is to kind of promote the idea of high-speed rail so we can put in new track beds around the country which are falling apart, and they're old-fashioned.
	These new tracks are made out of welded steel, and the cement beds are beautiful.
	Reared in metal.
	They're absolutely fantastic.
	And the idea is to set it up, make the taxpayers pick up the bill for upgrading the bed around the country so Burlington Northern can at some point say, hey, you're not using this very well.
	Nobody's taking your stupid high-speed rail.
	Can we use it?
	Oh, okay.
	Well, maybe we can make up, you know, we can get something out of these tracks.
	And all the freight then goes on the high-speed rail and goes flying around without Burlington Northern having to pick up a nickel of it.
	It's a scam.
	Thank you.
	Thank you very much.
	I gotta shorten that speech up a little bit.
	No, that was much better.
	But, you know, because new people are listening to the show and like, why are you guys against trains?
	It's wonderful!
	We can get there in three times the amount of time.
	We can spend days on the train.
	And we got Wi-Fi.
	It's wonderful!
	The trains are good!
	Even if it's local, like I said the other day, I mean, I can go take the train to Sacramento to go to the museum up there, but it costs more than it would cost me to drive.
	I would get there maybe a little faster, but not much, and I don't have a car when I'm there.
	I mean, the whole thing is ridiculous.
	It makes no logical sense.
	Maybe the TSA let him through like, hey, we got three kids.
	We can look at him naked.
	Maybe the whole thing was a bunch of bull crap.
	It's more like it.
	Yeah.
	So I've got an interesting clip.
	We want to change the topic a bit.
	Sure.
	Unless you have more trains and planes things.
	No, but let me just close it out because we love playing the jingle so much.
	All aboard.
	Trains good.
	Planes bad.
	Woo-hoo.
	Wi-Fi and hot towels.
	So the, you know, I haven't heard an in the morning for a while.
	In the morning.
	Hot pockets.
	So that's not a bad combination.
	Yeah, it works.
	So Christopher Hitchens, the British writer who's a very interesting character in terms of his politics and his intellectualism as a journalist, is dying, and he's probably going to be dead before the end of the year.
	What's he dying of?
	He had esophageal cancer, which has mesasticized everything.
	He's got it in his lungs and his lymph nodes, the whole thing.
	Yeah, that's fucked.
	And, uh...
	But he had a...
	Charlie Rose, who we're not necessarily big fans of, had a pretty good interview with him a couple days ago.
	Wait, you mean, uh...
	Tell me about the sexuality.
	It's in your DNA. That Charlie Rose?
	Yeah, when he's with a male, it's a little different.
	So, uh...
	I was listening to the thing, looking for some clips, and the only one I found that was kind of interesting was Hitchens on Clinton.
	They asked him about his feelings about Bill Clinton, and I thought since we've been pounding Clinton, since he still hasn't filed anything on the charity of his, he's stealing money for the Haitians, and he's on the Gulfstream.
	If anyone listened to the last week's show, we documented a lot of interesting things about Wycliffe John.
	John!
	Wycliffe John!
	And the Gulfstream jetty flies around in the same time.
	I have so.
	More on him later, by the way.
	Well, play the Hitchens on Clinton thing.
	I just think it's a really interesting clip from a guy who's really...
	Who has nothing to lose.
	Has nothing to lose.
	Has time made you more or less admiring of Bill Clinton?
	Certainly not more.
	I'm not sure it could have been any less.
	Really?
	Yes.
	You had that much...
	It's visceral, if you like.
	It is?
	What is the visceral?
	I've interviewed some of the women whose stories never quite made it, who claimed that he forced himself on them.
	I think they're telling the truth.
	I thought that his...
	That's unimaginable to you, isn't it?
	Yes.
	I know, because...
	Yes, or that I'd have a friend who is...
	Yeah, exactly.
	I mean, it's unimaginable because...
	The idea that you have been so lucky and fortunate or successful?
	Well, no.
	I'm not sure I saw that coming.
	I've been looking for an opportunity to express it.
	And I had a better way.
	I think even the most...
	What the hell is Rose doing?
	Rose is, you know, now that you mention it, I was going to edit that part out because it was Rose being so friggin' lame.
	Tell me about this sexuality.
	It's in your DNA. Apparently about, you know, Hitchens womanizing without having to be a masher.
	But he couldn't bring himself to actually, so it became this kind of awkward moment in the interview, and I was going to just cut it out and I forgot to, but the guy's a jerk.
	But anyway, so he gets back on topic here right after this.
	Should get used to the idea that if they're going to enjoy a female company, it better be on their own merits.
	Yeah, exactly.
	So what's a visceral attitude about Clinton?
	I thought that George Stephanopoulos was essentially right when he realized that the man was sociopathic.
	Other people don't have a real existence of Clinton.
	I mean, he only cares about himself.
	Yeah.
	I thought that was so obvious and so reptilian and so damaging to politics.
	That seems to be, in the end, history is what fascinates you the most.
	The making of history.
	Yes, and having a sense of what goes into making that.
	Yeah, absolutely.
	And what you have said before is the idea that you influence history is the most intoxicating of things.
	Yeah.
	So, I must have missed the Stephanopoulos.
	I didn't know Stephanopoulos said that Clinton was a sociopath.
	I never heard it.
	It wasn't on Extra.
	It wasn't on CNN. It wasn't on Extra.
	So, I must have missed it.
	Wow.
	Yeah.
	So, a couple of nuggets there, eh?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, I was very interested in that.
	But, you know, I knew somebody who was an agent, a female, that was mashed by him.
	He apparently goes up to a lot of women that he's targeting, and the first thing he starts doing, she said, creeps her out.
	You've seen these guys.
	They go up to a woman, and they start rubbing the woman's shoulders, or they're rubbing their arm as they're talking to him, constantly.
	Yeah.
	And apparently he does that kind of thing.
	And then, again, it keeps moving in closer.
	You have to keep backing off until you hit a wall.
	And then, you know, he moves in.
	But the curious thing, Gore seems to be the same way.
	Douchebag!
	There you go.
	All right.
	Well, so, speaking of Bill, the guy who pretty much single-handedly has helped the takeover of Haiti, A very interesting Spanish article.
	Let me bring up the original.
	I have the Google translation.
	In elcarib.com.do from the Dominican Republic.
	Well, it's interesting.
	When you go to translate an article on Google, and so you've copied the URL, and then you go to Google, and you click on Language Tools, it already knows that you want to translate Spanish.
	Have you ever noticed that?
	If you have a German article, it already has German pre-selected?
	No, I didn't notice that, but that's a very nice feature.
	Nice feature.
	So this is a scientific study of the earthquake in Haiti, which, as you know, I believe was caused by the earthquake machine.
	So there is a fault in Haiti, and we know there is because there was an earthquake, was it 80 years ago or something?
	But that was not this fault.
	Scientists are puzzled and are scratching their heads because it was not this fault.
	There must be a new fault somewhere.
	The absence of changes on the ground in the area is the first indication the fault was not responsible, as the fault extends east to west.
	However, part of the land bounced up and south to the north of the fault named Enriquilo, an indication of the existence of another fault, although still unknown in that area.
	So more credence to my theory that this was set off by a so-called earthquake machine.
	Intentionally so.
	And so then we get this douchebag Wyclef Jean.
	Who all of a sudden has got the Armani suit and is flying in the Gulfstream 4 that Clinton uses and the oil guys are using because, of course, it's a complete oil takeover.
	And now, because he was a Fuji, a Fuji, and a former bandmate of his comes out and says, well, this guy's a douchebag.
	He shouldn't be president of Haiti.
	You've got...
	This is...
	Pross is his bandmate.
	Pross.
	The Haitian-born musician says he will not back Wyclef Jean because he lacks a definitive plan to bring the island nation into the 21st century.
	It gets better here.
	You've got 1.2 million people living in Tent City right now.
	What are the plans to get these people out?
	Pross said of the survivors of the January 12th earthquake.
	Pross plans to support Jean's opponent.
	Michael Sweet Mickey Martelli!
	So we have a new player!
	Hey, Martelli's running.
	You're voting for him, you know what I mean?
	Michael Martelli has been heralded as a pioneer of a unique brand of compas music, a style of Haitian dance music.
	Yeah, so they've got the new Sweet Mickey.
	How do you spell his name?
	Sweet Mickey is his nickname, and you spell the way my Mickey's name, M-I-C-K-Y. Michael Martelli, M-A-R-T-E-L-L-Y. And so now it's the battle of the musicians for the presidency of Haiti.
	But this guy, this sweet Mickey guy, he's perhaps even worse.
	He's worse.
	Outlandishly and outspoken, Martelli has been known to drink publicly while performing in wigs, costumes, diapers, and Scottish kilts, and occasionally remove his own attire while performing.
	Well, arguably the most recognized and applauded musician and public personality in Haiti, Martelli's performance style has sometimes ignited controversy throughout the Haitian diaspora.
	He has finished school and has a degree in music.
	This is, I'm reading from Wikipedia, so take that with a grain of salt.
	As late as August 6th.
	Michael Martelli is shown as, M-I-C-H-E-L, we have it here, Martelli, and he was a bald, he's a shaved head character, is his running mate of Wycliffe Jean.
	Really?
	Where do you have this?
	Is that also on the weekend?
	I got it on a website called lovelytea.com, which is apparently a music site or something that comes out of the area.
	Huh.
	Wycliffe's running mate, Michael Martelli, speaks.
	Huh.
	And there's an interview with him.
	Martelli's past and current friendships with members of Haiti's turbulent government and with U.S. diplomats has been met with mixed opinion and criticism by music fans and activists alike.
	They're both shills.
	This is the perfect way.
	If you want to make sure you get the right outcome of the match, you've got to own both sides.
	So, they're like, okay, we got this Wyclef Jean.
	He's in.
	We need someone to run against him.
	Who's the guy with the diapers?
	Yeah, that guy.
	Bring him in.
	There's the link.
	Is there a video we can play?
	No.
	Well, yeah, maybe down further, but I don't trust it.
	I'll put this into the show notes as well.
	That is phenomenal.
	Phenomenal.
	Let's put it this way.
	Something's fishy.
	Yeah.
	And the answer, of course, to what are you going to do with the 1.2 million in 10 city is they're going to be your servants.
	They're going to be serving your drinks, your mojito.
	And they're going to be cleaning up your room, making your bed in the Clinton Hilton Hotel complex.
	It's a total rip-off of that country.
	I don't see any video on this page.
	Is there anything?
	No, it doesn't matter.
	And of course, lots of people sent me the Ritz Crackers spot that Wyclef Jean stars in.
	I guess he's now the spokesman for Ritz Crackers.
	So what are we going to do with those 1.2 million people?
	We're going to let them eat Ritz Crackers.
	Eat rich crackers and...
	Hot Pockets!
	Sorry, Haiti.
	Nice knowing you.
	This is interesting.
	This, from September 27, 2007, Michael Martelli and Wycliffe campaign video.
	They apparently have been running before in some way, shape, or form.
	Wow!
	I can't believe it.
	Let me look at this again.
	This is on a forum, so the date may be wrong.
	Yeah, but John, this makes so much sense.
	If you want to win an election, you've got to own both sides.
	These two guys, who apparently are friends, they're going to be running against each other, but it doesn't matter who wins, because they're both in the pocket of the corporations.
	Wow.
	Here's a Sunday, August 8th posting from somebody who was apparently listening to some presentation.
	This is August 8th.
	I have to admit, Sweet Mickey presented himself better than Wycliffe in his video interview, so there's something out there we can look at.
	However, neither one of these should be a candidate, so this is where they're, I guess, facing off against each other.
	Clef was not delivering a speech.
	Clef was rapping.
	Mickey, on the other hand, was quite elegant in delivering his positions and ideas.
	Hmm.
	This is just totally fishy.
	Yeah.
	You think?
	And here's some videos.
	I'm going to give you this link, but we don't want to play these now, but you should watch them later.
	I'll put them in the show notes for sure.
	Good.
	Huh.
	You got any more clips?
	Yeah, I got a couple.
	All right.
	Roll them out, brother.
	I'm sending you the Skype file first.
	Yeah, I got it.
	I got it.
	I got it.
	Oh, I love the internet.
	Thank you, Skype.
	Too bad you're going public, so would it all suck from now on?
	We'll enjoy it while we can.
	I found a word that's a cool one to use.
	There's a 15-second ad called deodorant, which has a weird sound effect in the middle of it.
	See if you can pick up the sound effect.
	There's a 15-second ad for deodorant, and there's a usage in there that I think is just so cool.
	JC and I both spotted it as a word we should be using more.
	First, you're going to have to listen for the sound effect, which is hilarious, and then the word that we're looking for.
	And it's not panty waste?
	No.
	That's a good one.
	If you feel you sweat more than average, you'd probably avoid getting close to people.
	Degree Clinical Protection.
	Its wetness protection is up to three times stronger than necessary.
	Dare to get much closer.
	Okay, I got the...
	Yeah.
	But I didn't hear the word.
	Clinical.
	Clinical.
	Let me hear that again.
	If you feel you sweat more than average, you probably avoid getting close to people.
	Degree Clinical Protection.
	Its wetness protection is up to three times stronger than necessary.
	Dare to get much closer.
	Yeah, that's a good word.
	We could use surgical, too, because you can also use that.
	It's like, what is a...
	Clinical.
	Clinical about deodorant.
	Why do you use the word clinical?
	As if you're, what, just what you're going to find in the hospital?
	Oh, get her some clinical protection.
	My God, he's sweating, John!
	Get him some clinical protection immediately!
	Bloop!
	That's better than the ding on Hot Pockets.
	Bloop!
	Bloop!
	We should get a bloop!
	We need to get that.
	That's good.
	Clinical.
	I'm thinking that every product should have...
	I've got a new clinical photography program.
	I mean, you know, just throw it in.
	Just throw it in.
	But I think we should use surgical, too.
	Surgical, clinical.
	I have a clinical story.
	Female infants growing breasts.
	Yeah, I saw this one, too.
	Is this in China?
	Something in the formula they're serving up.
	Yeah.
	Where do you think that comes from?
	I don't know.
	I think they're just trying to tank the stock.
	I was looking at that stock, which is a publicly traded company, and it was as high as 25.
	And once this report came out, the stock tanked, went down to 12.
	I think the whole thing, if we can do the Horowitz show, I'm going to put it on my list of stocks to pick up.
	Because I think it's just, I think the whole thing's bogus.
	Because I think stock market manipulation is going on rampantly in China.
	And I think this was done to tank the stock, which it did.
	And a killing can be made on the upside.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, that makes sense.
	Oh, very good.
	Very good.
	Just a guess.
	I love listening to your tips on that show.
	Not that I have any money to put in anything.
	It's like the fees for buying stock are more than the actual amount of stock I can buy.
	My money goes to paying bills.
	It doesn't go to anything else currently.
	So I have kind of a funny clip.
	Oh, good.
	The Letterman clip, as we start to get near the end here.
	Might as well lighten things up.
	Don't worry, I'll bogey out at the end.
	Don't worry.
	Yeah, we tend to be...
	This show is getting depressing.
	So Letterman had Landon Donovan on the show, and he was kind of an arrogant character.
	Who is he?
	He's the soccer player.
	He's the American soccer player on the American team, and he's...
	And he's, you know, big into soccer.
	And, you know, and so Letterman kind of goes...
	He just kind of demeans him in some very peculiar way.
	I think it's because the guy was a dick.
	And, you know, soccer's the next big thing kind of thing.
	And Letterman's never been a soccer fan.
	Yeah, he doesn't get it.
	Right.
	No, he doesn't understand.
	Yeah, he doesn't get it.
	What's there to get?
	Yeah.
	So anyway, so this clip, so I listened to this, and I just, I had to be highly amused by the way he dealt with this guy.
	Book up and get out and watch games live, because when you watch it live, you realize just how special it is.
	Now, if you were to go to see a high school soccer team, a grade school soccer team, or a college, or a pro, would you see the same level of play you see at the World Cup?
	I'd say it's highly unlikely.
	Are you going to watch high school games?
	I might now.
	You know what?
	It just looks like it's fun to run around on that huge green field.
	Is it fun?
	I wouldn't say it's fun all the time when you're chasing guys around.
	That's funny.
	I was amused.
	I like that.
	That's pretty good.
	I have a little clip from Burn Notice.
	Have you ever watched that show?
	You know, here's the problem I have with...
	Other people have the same problem, and I'm going to kind of discuss this issue.
	I have the entire first season of Burn Notice on DVD, which I got from one of the guys that used to be on an Emmy...
	He's an Emmy guy, so he gets all these DVDs.
	And the entire first season was given out to the judges.
	And I have it.
	So I have the first season of Burn Notice that I've been itching to watch because I think the theory behind the show is kind of interesting.
	But because I haven't watched those, I refuse to watch anything since.
	And I'm noticing people doing this.
	Like, some people won't watch a new episode of Mad Men because they haven't seen it from the beginning.
	Right, right, right.
	This is becoming like an issue, kind of a change in policies that people are adopting.
	Well, it's kind of annoying because you have to kind of know what's gone on previously because a lot of these series are now tied in.
	They write it that way, so it's not really a stand-alone like Kung Fu used to be.
	In fact, somebody wrote us, both of us, bitching about the fact that we haven't talked about Rubicon, which is kind of up our alley insofar as a conspiratorial show.
	It's also on American Movie Channel, right?
	Yeah, AMC got it right after Mad Men, actually.
	And I've seen the first episode.
	I actually watched the first episode three times.
	And I've seen all the episodes, fourth episodes today.
	And I'm totally convinced that if you haven't seen the first episode, don't even bother.
	And this show's got no legs.
	There's no way, because it's so complicated that no one's going to be able to follow it unless they've seen every episode from the beginning.
	Who produces this show?
	Which is asking too much, and they don't have it online.
	My son was saying, why don't they put it online so people can catch up?
	This is the mistake AMC and these other guys are making.
	Well, this is from Hulu.
	But this may be season four, I think.
	Who produces this?
	I don't know.
	So listen to this little bit of dialogue, which of course is art imitating life.
	I thought Marines were all about teamwork.
	Bomb disposal unit, right?
	I know that tattoo.
	I was special forces.
	The court taught me anything.
	It's not to trust no one.
	Usually, only career marines get a moto tat like that.
	You should be clearing roads in Iraq, not hunting FBI witnesses in Miami.
	Tell that to my squad mates who spent their tour shipping drugs to the States.
	Whoa!
	Isn't that great?
	Oh, brother.
	I love that.
	It's like, yeah, tell that to my squad mates who spent all their time over there shipping drugs to the States.
	Yeah, you know, it's so blatant now.
	And that's why I want to know who these producers are.
	Because either they're with us, Or the whole show is just, you know, a setup to just, like, make it normal for us.
	Like, ah, you know, just tell the slaves that we're shipping the drugs.
	Yeah, so they don't think anything suspicious is going on.
	No, it was on burn notice.
	Yeah, it was on burn notice.
	I already knew that.
	There's nothing new about that.
	That's normal.
	That's all cool.
	Yeah, I thought that was a nice little ditty.
	You got a couple more things.
	I wouldn't mind hearing them before we cut out.
	Yeah, unfortunately.
	Where are they?
	You've got Ben Quayle.
	You've got AIDS. Not you, but you have a clip called AIDS. You have tort reform.
	Yeah, okay, this is a long clip.
	Let's do the AIDS one.
	Okay.
	Is this going to bum me out?
	I don't want to be bummed out.
	Well, what it is, it's like an early, you know, this is one of the things we do on the show, why we like people to send us support at NoAgendaShow.com or Dvorak.org slash NA, just to throw an extra plug in, is that we, since we've watched C-SPAN to excess, every once in a while you catch an early warning, you know, one of these, we're like NORAD. Yeah, we're the NORAD of media assassination.
	Yeah, so you can see stuff kind of being tested in the market or sometimes being discussed openly, kind of amongst themselves, but still shown on C-SPAN. And 20 people watch some of this stuff at the most.
	But so I caught this and I don't I had I have the whole panel, but I decided only to play the intro because it kind of says it all.
	And I can kind of explain the rest faster than than they can blabber about it.
	And there's a guy there's three people, one from the Council on Foreign Relations.
	And there's a woman that runs some some odd magazine I've never heard of discussing the AIDS problem in the around the world.
	And there's a couple of interesting factoids that came up.
	30 million people out there have AIDS.
	20 million of them are in Africa.
	Right.
	And we are getting a lot of blowback because we haven't increased the amount of money we give to...
	And the United States, by the way, provides something like 80% of all the money to give people free drugs for AIDS. And the Africans are now getting mad because they're not giving more.
	And so it's becoming a political football.
	And from what I can tell, we're ready to pull the plug.
	On everything.
	Good morning, I'm Susan Denser, editor-in-chief of the health policy journal Health Affairs, and I want to welcome you to this first in a series of debates on key global health issues and controversies.
	Thank you for joining us.
	The resolution we'll be debating today is this, resolved that the U.S. commitment to universal HIV-AIDS treatment is unsustainable and decreases the U.S. leverage in the nation's foreign policy.
	Now let us begin by stating the obvious.
	This is a painful topic because lives are at stake, potentially millions of them.
	And understandably, the debate can get quite emotional.
	We will all agree that the Group of Eight's announcement in 2005 that member countries agreed to provide all those infected with HIV access to life-saving antiretroviral treatment was among the most noble of actions.
	And what that meant, whether it was fully understood at the time or not, was keeping some 30 million people worldwide on ARV treatment for three or four decades, if not beyond.
	That was very noble, but five years later that picture of nobility looks quite different.
	We all know that donor assistance in HIV-AIDS is flat to falling.
	In 2009, the GA country's disbursements for HIV were $7.6 billion.
	A year earlier, they had been $7.7 billion.
	And we also know that given the global economic situation, this trend is not likely to change anytime soon.
	Although the Obama administration is working very hard to meet its other global health goals, such as maternal and child health and neglected tropical diseases, it intends to keep its commitment to increase the number of patients receiving ARV treatment under PEPFAR to 4 million by 2014.
	It is, however, unclear if the U.S. Congress is going to go along with that.
	It's also clear that even if the U.S. is somehow able and willing to deliver ever more increasing sums to global health and specifically to HIV-AIDS, it is not at all clear that much of the rest of the world will go along.
	Huh.
	Well, before you say anything, I'd like to mention two things.
	PETFAR is the president's emergency plan for AIDS relief, which I believe George Bush set up, and he was actually heralded for setting that up.
	Yeah.
	But what's interesting is this has been Clinton's thing.
	The Clinton Health Access Initiative, known as CHI, which was actually founded January 1, 2010, is formerly known as the HIV-AIDS Initiative.
	And I'm reading from the ClintonFoundation.org website.
	The numbers don't add up.
	Since its inception, CHI has helped more than 2 million people access the medicines needed for treatment, which represents nearly half of all the people living with HIV and on treatment in developing countries.
	How does that work?
	I thought you said 30 million.
	But so when these two guys show up, when these two guys are together in something...
	Shysters show up and take advantage of people's goodwill and generosity.
	I don't trust it.
	So you say a political football, I say a rip-off.
	I'm not sure how or why, but I just don't think these guys are genuine.
	Yeah, I'm not going to argue the point.
	All I saw was a little NORAD action here.
	There's something going on.
	They're starting to pull the plug in on this thing.
	Africa is going to be targeted.
	It largely has to do with the fact that the carping that's going on in Africa.
	One thing that I don't have in the clip, but they mentioned it, the Gates Foundation, it was actually Bill Gates that came out and said, this is unsustainable.
	And they're thinking about stopping something.
	Oh, there's another one of our favorite guys.
	Gates will be the topic of conversation, I'm sure for many, a show because of the Gates Foundation issues.
	Well, I think you're absolutely spot on.
	Your douchebag radar is going off, and when you see that Clinton just changed the HIV-AIDS initiative to the CHI as of January 1st, 2010, you know this is set up.
	You know that something is coming, so I think you're right.
	Oops, wrong one.
	I think you're right, and we've got to keep our laser beam focused on them.
	And just some really good news to end up.
	The Postal Service, you know, there's a new law, you can't ship tobacco through the mail.
	This has now been changed.
	The Cigarette Trafficking Act...
	And, of course, change so that starting August 27th, military care packages with tobacco can be sent using priority mail which ships to overseas military addresses.
	And according to this story, the U.S. Postal Service initially said that you couldn't ship any products, but now, as long as the sender and recipient are both adults and it is not for commercial purposes, Then it's okay to send tobacco through the mail.
	We'll find out as I have some shipments coming from Gitmo Nation East from Mr.
	Oil of my favorite rolling tobacco.
	Good.
	Yeah, some good news for me.
	Yeah.
	That's something.
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