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	We are orthorexics.
	Orthorexics.
	And proud of it.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's Thursday, July 1st, 2010.
	Time for Gitmo Nation Media Assassination Episode 213.
	This is no agenda.
	In need of a release of my second chakra.
	And coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center, Gitmo Nation West, in the People's Republic of Southern California.
	In the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
	And from Northern Silicon Valley, where July 4th is coming up here.
	Do they celebrate July 4th in Canada?
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	You know, there are people who actually ask that question.
	Well, the question is, you say to a Canadian, you say, so we have a big holiday coming up.
	Do you guys have July 4th in Canada?
	I know.
	And then, of course, they say no.
	And you say, really?
	The 3rd to the 5th?
	What are you talking about?
	Yeah, on July 4th.
	Unfortunately, it's true.
	This absolutely happens from time to time with an incredibly smart populace.
	In the morning, John.
	In the morning to everyone on the stream.
	And let me say it today.
	In the morning to all ships at sea.
	And in the morning to everyone listening.
	Yes.
	You were up late last night and up early this morning looking at my email log.
	Yeah.
	What happened?
	I was up late last night and then I got up early.
	Well, what happened?
	You just fell out of bed?
	No, I got my normal number of hours.
	Oh, okay.
	Yeah, seven, right?
	That's what I always get.
	I wake up after seven.
	No, no, I go for six.
	Really?
	Ooh.
	Seven is the ideal number.
	There was a lecture on UCTV. This woman was the world's expert on sleep.
	Yeah.
	Was she hot?
	She actually wasn't a bad-looking woman.
	Okay.
	Professor.
	Anyway, she says that all the studies indicate that the optimum number of hours for human longevity, in other words, if you want to live long, is seven hours.
	And if you get eight hours, it has the same negative benefits as getting six hours, and getting nine hours has the same negative benefits as getting five hours.
	Wow.
	I always find that if I awaken on the odd hour, that I'm better than the even hour.
	Yeah.
	I tend to find it very difficult to get seven hours sleep.
	Oh, no.
	It's no problem for me.
	You know what?
	The day before yesterday, Mickey has been threatening.
	She dragged me down to get my teeth whitened.
	It's a process called the...
	What?
	What?
	Yeah, she's cleaning me up.
	It's the process called the Zoom.
	And it's crazy, because what they do is they put a hydrogen peroxide on your teeth, and then they blast it with a light for like 45 minutes.
	And what happens is, because your teeth are porous, then the stuff gets into your...
	You know, basically into the, what do you call them?
	Well, you know, it's porous, so it gets close to the nerve, and all of a sudden you start getting these, like, electrical shocks, almost like you're chewing on aluminum foil with a filling.
	But it doesn't happen until they turn the light off, and I'm like, hey, what's going on?
	And then they say, oh, don't worry, that's just what we call zingers.
	I said, well, you could have told me beforehand, and then they gave me Vicodin.
	I've been sleeping quite well.
	That Vicodin shit's amazing.
	I'll bet.
	I never really tried it.
	Yeah, Vicodin.
	Yay!
	Vicodin, good!
	It's good stuff!
	Yeah, that peroxide treatment will be interesting because sometimes, and some people, if they put it in, a lot of them mix it up wrong and then they put it on your teeth and they pull the thing off and your teeth are gone.
	That's okay.
	What do you mean?
	They're still in there.
	By the way, don't bite an apple because many times just crack their teeth right into the apple.
	Okay.
	I'll take your advice.
	Okay.
	But you don't have pretty teeth.
	That's all of a sudden.
	I had to sign a whole bunch of forms, which is basically like, you can't sue us.
	In case the teeth start falling out.
	That was quite funny.
	So, do you want to talk about Al Gore before we do the producers?
	Do we have an executive producer, actually, for the show?
	Yeah, let's go to the producer.
	We've got a couple.
	We have an executive producer and an associate.
	Our executive producer is the John Smith.
	He has a knighthood, doesn't he?
	He's now a knight.
	We'll give him his knight ceremony later.
	Fantastic.
	And he's our executive producer.
	And then we have associate executive producer as the famous Jimmy Vega.
	Hey, Jimmy Vega.
	In Goodhaven, New York.
	And he's at 250, so that's our two guys.
	Jimmy Vagan doesn't actually sing, does he?
	We don't know.
	You're just making that up, right?
	If you had to name Jimmy Vagan...
	I would be singing.
	I would be in Vegas.
	Hey, everybody.
	I'll be here all week.
	Jimmy Vagan.
	Okay, that's beautiful.
	So that's nice.
	We have a knighthood to look forward to and two producers.
	Oh, boy.
	And a phone ringing.
	Hey, we got a...
	I will have to call out someone as a PR associate, actually, because I'm quite pleased with this one.
	Remember our buddy who registered vajazzling.com after your excellent report and prediction of future vajazzling in the media?
	Hello?
	What?
	What are you doing?
	I had a phone ring.
	I had to go hang it up.
	Alright, do you remember the guy who registered for jazzling.com?
	Yeah.
	Right, so he registered another domain name.
	Have you heard of the Phenomenon 2204355?
	I can't even say it.
	This is one of these...
	220355?
	2204355.
	Oh, 2204355.
	That's different.
	Yes, it is.
	It's one of those internet memes.
	Time Magazine actually posted about it.
	You may or may not have noticed that when you type in 2204355 into Google and hit the I'm Feeling Lucky button, this inexplicably happens.
	Then it brings up this guy doing the Kentucky Fried Chicken Dance.
	So, our guy from Vajazzling.com either noticed this meme or he may have been...
	It's kind of like a Rickroll thing, I guess.
	It's just one of these weird things.
	And he registered 2204355.com.
	Good man.
	Yes, and he's put a No Agenda logo and link at the bottom of the page underneath the Kentucky Fried Chicken dude.
	Great.
	I think that's good, to hook into a meme with another meme.
	This guy should be working in the business.
	I think there's a job at Hill and Knowlton waiting for him.
	Anytime he wants, he can go.
	So, Jimmy Vega, our associate executive producer.
	John Smith, soon to be Sir John Smith, our executive producer for episode 213 of the No Agenda Show.
	Thank you so much.
	Feel free to put this in your email signature.
	Definitely list it on your CV. It is an official credit.
	It will be recognized as such by agents and managers worldwide, and it is good for karma, and we've seen many people benefit from proudly displaying this credit as an executive producer and or associate executive producer.
	And all the rest of you out there, we still need you to help out and propagate our formula, which is really simple.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	That's right.
	Remember to say it all with me now.
	View.
	World. Order.
	Let's do it together.
	Shut up.
	Stay.
	Stay.
	Dvorak.org slash NA to become an executive producer or associate executive producer.
	And we'll talk about more support that we receive later on in the show.
	So, um...
	Well, you want to start with the gore thing?
	It's just so funny.
	It's just, you know, the whole...
	I mean, what a way to pick up chicks.
	I need to release in my second chakra.
	Can you please help me?
	Yeah, well, do I think I have a clip for the extra rundown since we're going to go into this?
	Oh, really?
	Oh, good.
	Which may or may not have Gores in it, but it has all the news, all the real news, all jammed into one teaser.
	Well, then let me marry it with our real news jingle.
	It'll sound real professional.
	Hold on a second.
	And now, back to real news.
	Larry King today telling Extra who he wants to replace him.
	Extra!
	Larry's first words about hanging it up after 25 years.
	He's sad and happy all at the same time.
	Will Ryan take his seat?
	Piers Morgan?
	Bill Clinton?
	And how his wife Shawn took the news?
	Elizabeth Edwards comparing herself to Sandra Bullock.
	She wants to reclaim who she is.
	Why she's baffled John fell for Riel.
	Plus, heartbreaking news her cancer spread.
	Why Elizabeth prays she'll live eight more years.
	Secrets from Jake and Vienna's vicious TV showdown.
	Face-to-face for the first time since they broke up.
	Who storms out?
	Madonna's mini-me Lourdes all grown up.
	God, she looks amazing.
	What incredible style.
	And then my second reaction is she's dressed completely inappropriately for school.
	It's Madonna extra raw on her new family business.
	Plus, secrets from the next Twilight, Breaking Dawn.
	Why our pats can hardly speak.
	What is wrong with me?
	Elizabeth Edwards breaks her silence for the first time since the whole John Edwards scandal blew up.
	Jerry's got the all-new interview.
	He chose her over me?
	Elizabeth Edwards just doesn't understand.
	Oh, there you go.
	You're up to date.
	So they short-sheeted Gore.
	Yeah, and they put in Edwards.
	That's weird.
	Yeah, I thought so.
	So, the Examiner headlines, Sex Complaint Against Gore is Detailed and Credible.
	You know that this just is...
	He's just a New World Order elitist creep.
	And I love in this story, I'm sure you know by now the story, you've heard about it, but what I love is she talked to liberal friends like herself who advised against telling the police, this is the masseuse, who Gore basically assaulted He sounds like a masher.
	Yeah, a total masher.
	And one of her liberal friends said, just suck it up, otherwise the world's going to be destroyed from global warming.
	Just suck it up.
	Take one for the team, toots.
	Can you just imagine Gore, like, mashing on top of you?
	Oh, that's the stuff.
	Nightmares of me.
	He seems like a masher.
	Remember the time when he got to nomination or whatever it was, they gave his wife the big wet kiss in front of the whole audience?
	Yeah.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Well, you know, he had to go.
	He had to go because he failed on his mission.
	As the global warming guru.
	So they had to get him out of the picture.
	Aside from actually giving him the old two to the head...
	This is, what better way?
	Yeah, this, you know, the next step would have been some phony baloney pedophilia charge.
	Oh, can still come!
	Yeah, it could if he doesn't back, if he doesn't get out of the way.
	If he doesn't shut up, yeah, he really...
	He's got to shut up and get, you know, the thing is, I understand him when he shows up, you know, he's one of the, one of the, um, He's partners of some sort at Kleiner Perkins.
	Well, yeah.
	That's the big fund they have together, which includes the carbon trading desk.
	Scam.
	Yes.
	And apparently when he shows up over at the offices, he lords it over everybody.
	He's got all these Secret Service guys.
	No, no, no.
	Let me just correct you on that, because I've been there when he was there.
	He has...
	Two Secret Service guys in an Escalade and he's got a sheriff.
	The sheriff comes out with him.
	So in total it's four guys because it's the sheriff and a deputy.
	That's his whole detail.
	But it's enough, you know.
	That's a lot?
	Yeah, oh yeah.
	Don't walk around with four people.
	In my posse?
	I think you're more under threat than he is.
	Nobody cares about him except the women.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	No, it's...
	I think he's just got to lay very, very low for a while.
	Just interesting.
	So you said you had only a couple clips, much less than normal.
	There wasn't that many clips that you apparently garnered a bunch of clips.
	I found very few.
	It's funny because I did have a lot of time yesterday.
	I'll be the first to admit that.
	Which is a good thing.
	Let your teeth heal?
	Yeah.
	So I'm high on Vicodin.
	The day went by really slowly.
	Get a lot more work done.
	Yeah, I get a lot more done that way.
	And my hunch was right.
	I was thinking, everybody is all over this Elena Kagan confirmation hearing, so there's got to be something else going on.
	Yeah, the minute Drudge posted, because I'm sure, I don't think you even have it.
	I've got to play the clip from Elena Kagan.
	This is the one that Drudge posted, and everyone's like, oh, when she comes in, then the government's going to force us what to eat.
	Yeah, I know.
	I found that to be disingenuous.
	Let me just play that for a second just to set it up.
	It was on the blog.
	I actually have it under the heading Codex Alimentarius because the one thing I couldn't find is what...
	Who's the guy that asked the question?
	Coburn.
	Senator Coburn.
	What I couldn't find is what bill he was referring to because he's basically saying there's a bill that's coming through that has to do with telling people what to eat And so what is your decision going to be on this?
	Well, let's listen to the clip.
	This is from C-SPAN 3 from the live coverage.
	If I wanted to sponsor a bill and it said, Americans, you have to eat three vegetables and three fruits every day.
	And I got it through Congress and it's now the law of the land.
	You got to do it.
	Got to do it.
	Does that violate the Commerce Clause?
	Sounds like a dumb law.
	Yeah, I got one that's real similar to it.
	I think it's equally dumb.
	I'm not going to mention which it is.
	Now, how come no one's all over that?
	Well, what bill is it?
	I was Googling, Googling, Googling.
	Googly, googly.
	I couldn't find it.
	Yeah, you probably have to call his office to get it.
	I think that the question of whether it's a dumb law is different from whether the question of whether it's constitutional.
	And I think that courts would be wrong to strike down laws that they think are senseless just because they're senseless.
	Well, I guess the question I'm asking you is, do we have the power to tell people what they have to eat every day?
	Senator Coburn...
	I mean, what is the extent of the Commerce Clause?
	We have this wide embrace of the Commerce Clause which these guys who wrote this...
	Never, ever fathom that we would be so stupid to take our liberties away by expanding the Commerce Clause this way.
	And I think he's holding up the Constitution.
	It's a little unclear.
	It could be the Bible.
	I'm not sure what he's holding up.
	It looks like the Bible.
	It looks like a Bible.
	It looks a little thick to be the Constitution, actually.
	So everyone's...
	That may be the law he's talking about.
	Yeah.
	Who knows?
	I don't understand why he doesn't mention it.
	I find that weird.
	Me too.
	That's like, huh?
	Why don't you just tell us?
	What's going on?
	Why the big secret?
	But I don't see anywhere in the media anyone questioning this.
	What was he talking about?
	Most people in the media think we should eat three vegetables a day or something.
	I don't know.
	I have no idea.
	Well, boy, I do have...
	I could go for a vegetable right now.
	Yeah, I could go for...
	I think some squash is in season.
	I could go for some broccoli.
	Yeah, broccoli is nice.
	Well, just on that briefly, you know that you and I both could actually be suffering from an actual disorder, John.
	Broccoli?
	No.
	Orthorexia nervosa.
	Orthorexia.
	Yes, this is...
	It's obviously orthorexia.
	You haven't heard of this?
	Oh my goodness.
	No, of course not.
	What?
	Well, this is big news.
	This is all over the mainstream news.
	Orthorexia...
	I just said it and I forgot it already.
	Nervosa.
	Orthorexia nervosa is fixation on righteous eating.
	Oh yeah.
	Yeah.
	We are definitely sufferers.
	Is there a pill?
	Not yet, but there will be a vaccine.
	Yes, called a McDonald's hamburger.
	Yes, the...
	I am definitely seeing significantly more orthorexics than just a few years ago, said Ursula Philpott, chair of the British Dietetic Association's mental health group.
	Other eating disorders focus on quantity of food, but orthorexics can be overweight or look normal.
	They are solely concerned with the quality of the food they put in their bodies, refining and restricting their diets according to their personal understanding of which foods are truly pure.
	Orthorexics commonly have rigid rules around eating.
	I think whoever got their website, getorthorexia.com.
	Oh yeah, good one.
	.com.
	Go, go, go, go, go.
	That is now a...
	Orthorexia nervosa.
	That is now...
	We are orthorexics.
	Orthorexics.
	And proud of it.
	And proud of it.
	We need a t-shirt.
	T-shirt, guys.
	Orthorexics and proud of it.
	This is great.
	Artists.
	Alert for Paul T. And it gets better.
	The obsession about which foods are good and which are bad means orthorexics can end up malnourished.
	Oh, bullcrap.
	Their dietary restrictions commonly cause sufferers to feel proud of their virtuous behavior.
	This is us, John.
	It's us to the T. Yeah, but it probably also includes the Whole Foods people who probably are starving themselves because of the inability to digest brown rice.
	Deanna Jade, founder of the National Center for Eating Disorders, said, There's a fine line between people who think they are taking care of themselves by manipulating their diet and those who have orthorexia.
	I see people around me have no idea they have this disorder.
	People wanted us to talk about food more.
	Here you go.
	I see it in my practice.
	I see it amongst my friends and colleagues.
	Modern society has lost its way with food.
	This is just too good.
	Heaven forbid another French restaurant just opened.
	What are we going to do?
	So, I mean, I have a couple of things under the Codex Alimentarius heading in the show notes.
	I'm sure you probably blogged this.
	The European Union now, and this is part of the Codex, is telling shopkeepers, sorry, you can't sell eggs by the dozen.
	All food must be sold by the kilo.
	I don't know if we did blog that or not, but as soon as I saw it, I was bloggable.
	I just maybe didn't get to it.
	Yeah, it's ridiculous.
	You can't sell eggs by the dozen.
	This is...
	What are they thinking with this?
	Now they're going to make you weigh each egg.
	Yeah.
	It's a 10 cent item.
	Chickens crap them out all over the place.
	They're in the yard.
	Yeah.
	Well, there you go.
	It's going to be illegal.
	Illegal, I tell you.
	It's just funny.
	You know, the fact that any public would put up with something like that is ridiculous.
	Can't sell eggs by the dozen.
	I'm sure there will be big protests in Gitmo Nation East over this.
	There'll be no protests.
	I'll just put up with it.
	So, anyway, back to Kagan.
	And it just makes the lines longer as they have to weigh the eggs.
	Oh, does it?
	So there's a couple things that were going on at the same time, and I'm glad I switched around, because yesterday the House essentially passed what I am calling the Federal Reserve Empowerment Act.
	This is what the President calls...
	The financial reform bill.
	And I've read this bill and I've posted yet another copy of...
	And it's weird now, right?
	Because they have all these different amendments or amendments changes.
	And I watched the voting yesterday.
	It was pretty amazing.
	Amazing, I tell you.
	Where the audit, the Fed portion of the bill...
	And so they wanted to send it back, right?
	They wanted to send it back to the committee, and so they had to vote.
	And to send it back, that failed 198 to 229.
	Ron Paul actually posted on his Facebook this morning.
	He said, well, a lot of Democrats who actually co-sponsored my bill voted against it when it really mattered.
	So he's going to post a list of the Democrats who flip-flopped at the last moment.
	Wonder why?
	Yeah.
	Do you think there was any pressure?
	And it was amazing to watch.
	Barney Frank was freaking out.
	I've been pulling so many clips, I didn't have time.
	What was he freaking out about?
	He was really excited because this is his big thing, right?
	It's the Barney Frank's Chris Dodd bill.
	And when they say, okay, the yeas have it or whatever, and he goes...
	I want to vote!
	Literally like that.
	It's like, whoa, Barney, calm the F down, dude.
	And then the minute it passes, then all of a sudden, and there's been hours, hours of debate, Pelosi's there all of a sudden.
	And then she's there to take all the credit.
	This is legendary!
	This is great!
	No longer the Republicans screwed us!
	I like your Pelosi.
	It's good.
	It's pretty good, right?
	Yeah.
	So now it goes, I guess, so between mid-July they're going to debate it and then it'll get passed.
	And this gives the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve oversight over the banks.
	I would like to remind people the Federal Reserve is not a governmental institution.
	It is a private collection of banks.
	So the banks get to oversee the banks.
	It's great!
	I think it's genius.
	It's brill.
	And so, of course, the president was out yesterday.
	There was so much going on.
	And boy, he was lying.
	He was in Wisconsin.
	And one of these town hall meetings, one of these bogus things, where there's only supporters of the president.
	There may be people standing behind these people with tasers, for all I know.
	And I pulled a couple clips.
	The first one, I thought, because in reference to the financial reform, it's like, you know...
	And by the way, he's still campaigning.
	It's the Republicans, you know, we inherited this, and it's all bad, and, you know, we've got to fix it.
	And then he brings in a comparison to passing the health care bill, which I thought was just interesting the way he worded this.
	And let's face it, for some of us, just voters...
	The prospects of change are kind of scary.
	Even when we know the status quo isn't working for us.
	I mean, you remember all the fear-mongering that was going on during the health care debate, right?
	Remember?
	All of you were told, you know, you're going to lose your health care.
	By the way, when he does these town halls, this is what he's really good at.
	This is where the guy excels.
	You know, when he rolls up, he takes off his jacket, rolls up his shirt sleeves, and walks around.
	Yeah, he's campaigning.
	That's all he's good at.
	Takes the prepared questions.
	He's really, really good at it.
	Very funny.
	Yeah, he's really good at it.
	Personable, yeah, he's good.
	It's going to be socialized.
	Government's going to come in and death panels are going to be set up.
	Remember that?
	And now we're about three, four months into it and everybody's looking around and Yeah, nothing changed and where's the money?
	Exactly.
	And I'm like, wow, this is amazing.
	First of all, a lot of this stuff isn't supposed to hit until 2014, so we're not going to feel the pain just yet.
	And all I'm seeing is increases in rates.
	Everyone's seeing their rates skyrocket.
	Yeah.
	Who needs a death panel?
	Nothing good has happened, but he's good.
	He's good.
	That's what he does.
	He's like a propagandist.
	He should have been...
	Yeah, anyway, go ahead.
	Okay, so then he...
	And this was kind of scary, and I want you to help me pick this apart.
	Here's his speech on why government is good and why you need government.
	Because without government, John, we would be nowhere.
	I just want you to know that up front before we listen to our president proselytize this.
	The economic policies they put in place turned a $237 billion surplus into a $1.3 trillion deficit.
	It's kind of old news, isn't it?
	Yeah, but also it's not true because Clinton took away a lot of the regulations and that really started affecting everything in the years after that.
	Yeah, well, it's always been Clinton's fault, let's face it.
	So...
	Thank you, thank you, thank you.
	So, you know, there were a couple of signs when I came in that said, you know, do something about spending.
	I'm game to do something about spending, but let's just remember how we got into this fix.
	He's still campaigning.
	He's still saying it's the Republicans.
	And I hate both of them.
	Democrats and Republicans.
	I hate to tell you this, though.
	It's the Democrats who have the House by a wide margin, and they have the Senate, and they have the presidency, and they're putting the next Supreme Court justice in.
	They just put one in.
	What's the Republicans got to do with anything?
	Well, stand by, because government is good, and we really need it.
	Now, I've never believed the government has all the answers.
	That's not how America thinks.
	Government can't and should not replace businesses as the engines of growth and job creation in our economy.
	Government should live within its means.
	We should root out waste and abuse of taxpayer dollars wherever and whenever we can.
	Too much regulation can stifle competition and hurt businesses.
	But if you think about the history of this country, we've always recognized that there are times when only government has been able to do what individuals couldn't do and what corporations would not do.
	Okay, so are you ready for the list, John?
	Well, I'll tell you one thing.
	It doesn't include fixing these potholes that are out here on Highway 80 and they go right onto the Oakland-San Francisco Bay Bridge.
	You drive up and down.
	It just ruins your entire car.
	That's how we have railroads and highways and public schools and police forces.
	Wait a minute.
	Who built the railways?
	Wasn't it like some big private guys?
	It was the Union Pacific and the Central Pacific and the Union Pacific.
	Wasn't it like Morgan or Rockefeller?
	Yeah, Morgan.
	There was a bunch of, yeah, these moguls.
	Yeah, but wasn't that private money?
	Wasn't that private?
	Well, it was in 1864, I would think, probably.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	I think they scammed some government money in the deal, but I don't notice that the government...
	Those were not nationalized railroads.
	No, exactly.
	So when they were done, they were privately run.
	Thank you.
	It gets better.
	That's how we've made possible scientific research that led to the medical breakthroughs and technological wonders that all of us take for granted now.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	Apple has the government to thank for the iPhone, the technological marvel, and the medical breakthroughs.
	That's just not true.
	And I guess the Bell Labs that invented the transistor, which is responsible for everything that we're doing, is government-run.
	I think they had some government money.
	Thank you, government.
	Thank you.
	I think what he's saying is that the government sneaks money in.
	Maybe that's what he's saying.
	Maybe I'm just misunderstanding.
	I think you're totally misunderstanding the man.
	That's why we have Social Security and a minimum wage.
	I don't have no Social Security.
	You've stolen that from me.
	What are you talking about?
	There'll be nothing.
	There will be nothing for me.
	And laws to protect the food we eat, and the water we drink, and the air we breathe.
	Yay!
	This is stump speech.
	Yeah, total stump speech.
	But the one that got me is, and coming from a service family background, this one just pissed me off.
	There was a woman who stood up and she said, Hey, it's messed up.
	Our boys and girls who are overseas in war, they've got no time.
	They come back and they turn around and they've got to go back again for another tour.
	We've got to do something about that, Mr.
	President.
	The first is making sure that counseling, support, For our troops, is there in theater?
	So we have record numbers of suicides.
	So instead of sending them back, instead of illegally sending them back over and over and over again, the solution to this is counseling.
	Oh, stand by.
	Well, it's when they get back home.
	And there has been in the past this sort of stigma around mental health issues.
	But you know what?
	If you send somebody into a war zone, That's going to be a shock on the system.
	What?
	No shit!
	What?
	Really?
	You think?
	You think, you know, it's a shock on the system.
	It's a shock on the system.
	You throw them off of a 40-story building, I'm guaranteeing it's going to be a shock on the system.
	Especially...
	When they hit the bottom.
	Has this guy ever served?
	Does this guy know what it's like?
	No, but he's been in Chicago, so it gets rough.
	That's close.
	Well, they may engage in enormous heroism, enormous courage.
	Our troops do just spectacular things, but it's going to have an impact.
	It's going to suck a little bit.
	It's just not going to be great.
	He's so cavalier.
	Thank you.
	And when they've been on two tours or three tours or four tours?
	Four tours!
	He's just like, oh, three tours, four tours.
	Who gives a shit?
	Just send them over.
	They're young!
	They're young.
	They do amazing, spectacular things.
	Sometimes that impact adds up.
	Yeah, it could add up.
	You know, if you've been like, for like five years, you've been in the desert, you know, and you don't know what you're doing there.
	Sand flies, you got boils, there's parasites in your body.
	IEDs and stuff, you know, and you don't know why you're there.
	You know, it could mess with your brain.
	You know, it's like, it's normal.
	This is very normal.
	In the past, things like post-traumatic stress disorder weren't really talked about.
	Now we're starting to talk about it, and we've actually...
	Now listen to this.
	That's bull crap.
	We've been talking about this for the last 40 years.
	I know, I know.
	But listen to what he says.
	...what we're doing for veterans, as well as active duty.
	This whole issue of post-traumatic stress disorder, PTSD, we are really emphasizing this.
	And up and down the chain of command, we're saying people should not be embarrassed about seeking out counseling in these...
	I'm embarrassed that I'm freaking out!
	...situations.
	So that's point number one.
	Second point...
	Very good.
	Thank you.
	Second point you're making is there needs to be that rest in between deployments.
	You need some rest.
	A little bit of rest.
	Take a week off.
	We got a ticket for you going back.
	Take a week.
	Take a week.
	Do some shopping.
	Little did we know, John, he's actually done something about this.
	I didn't know.
	And that's part of the reason why we actually increased the number of Marines.
	The Army and Marines have really borne the biggest burden in terms of these very quick and rapid and stressful deployments.
	So part of the reason we sent over 30,000 more troops was so some of them could get more rest.
	That's bullcrap.
	I don't believe that.
	I never heard that.
	No, it's new.
	That was for the surge.
	It was like to have more troops on the ground, not to give anyone any rest.
	Yeah, to get that harvest finished.
	And what we've been saying is let's start getting back to a point where there is ample time between deployments, and we are actually...
	For the Marines, I think we're just about there.
	For the Army, I think we've got another year before we get it to where we want to be.
	In another year, you're supposed to be drawn down troops, my friend.
	July.
	Remember July 2011 when you're supposed to bring people out?
	You can take that to the bank.
	Based it on a lot more than it was, for example, two years or three years ago.
	So, I just found that cavalier and rude and insensitive and dumb.
	Well, it's like the Pete Stark clip that's going around the internet.
	What's that?
	I don't know which one that is.
	Go to my blog, you'll see it.
	Just tell me.
	Stark, who's a local here in California, just basically had a little town hall meeting and started chewing out everybody.
	Oh, no, I did see that.
	Yeah, of course I've seen that.
	Yeah, I actually put it in the show notes.
	Yeah, it's just crazy.
	The guy's been in Congress for 37 years.
	He represents Fremont, California.
	And he lives in Maryland.
	He has a townhouse that he maintains, some little pied-à-terre so he can still maintain his Fremont qualifications.
	But he lives in Maryland.
	He never shows up.
	And then when he does show up, he just gets mad at everybody.
	So, I don't know.
	How do these guys keep getting re-elected?
	I mean, the people of Fremont, Newark, and the vicinity should be ashamed of themselves for continually putting this jerk back in for 37 years.
	So, then I switch over to...
	The Robert Gibbs Show.
	God, man.
	C-SPAN is so amazing.
	That guy needs like a theme song.
	You should have Jeff Smith.
	Do a Robert Smith, Robert Gibbs.
	Here comes Robert.
	Here comes Robert.
	You know, you've got to be careful when you ask him for that because he actually does that kind of stuff.
	It's what you do, so you don't have to cease to...
	Right, so on the Robert Gibbs show, a reporter in the audience, and I didn't know this was happening right now, pipes up about the Blagojevich trial.
	This is, uh...
	Mayor Rod Blagojevich, who was a part of the Chicago cabal and was ousted for...
	I don't know, he did something wrong.
	His governor.
	Governor, I'm sorry why I say mayor.
	Governor.
	He pissed somebody off.
	And she asked a question which just blew me away because the whole thing is about the Senate seat and trading...
	I guess he wanted to go into the Obama administration.
	He got cut out.
	And he said, oh, well, I'm holding the Senate seat.
	And apparently that was supposed to be reserved for Valerie Jarrett, who was a special advisor to the president.
	Yeah, he slipped in the information that he should pick her.
	Go ahead.
	Go ahead.
	You got the story.
	So here's what the reporter asked.
	And she's reading it straight off of her BlackBerry.
	So it's coming straight from the Chicago trial reportings, which, of course, are not televised.
	Tom Malinoff is a local labor leader in Chicago, and in testimony today of the Goyedvich trial, he talks about a phone call that he got from Barack Obama on Monday evening before the Tuesday election, of which he posts Mr.
	Obama as saying that he thinks Valerie Jarrett So, in case you couldn't hear it, because it's that crappy audio they have in the press room.
	This is all about telephone calls and tapes and what the jury is allowed to hear and a lot of these have been sealed by the judge.
	So apparently Obama did call and said, hey, you know, you got to get Valerie Jarrett.
	He didn't call Blagojevich directly.
	He called an associate.
	Right.
	And he gave him the message, but they won't let him play that, because the, in fact, there's a bunch of stuff that they're not letting the jurors hear, which says to me that, especially in a case like this, a corruption case like this, you really have to let everything play out.
	It says to me that the judge and the whole system, of course this is Chicago, they're railroading Blagojevich, and he's screwed.
	Yeah, so here's, back to the Robert Gibbs show.
	Did the President make that phone call?
	You're telling me about this testimony.
	I'm not going to get into commenting on, obviously, an ongoing trial.
	And I have not had an opportunity to see that.
	But you've said before that the president did not get involved with the suggestions or the conversations.
	I'm just not going to get into commenting on an ongoing trial.
	Shut up, slave.
	So he said, yeah, but you said before the president didn't make any calls and now there's a guy testifying that he did.
	I'm not going to get into that.
	Shut up, slave.
	Next question.
	That's essentially what was said there.
	Yeah, well, and you expected what?
	I just wanted to point that out because no one's talking about it.
	Yeah, they don't talk about anything.
	And the president had a meeting about, and this is what I really uncovered, I think.
	I think I figured out this whole cap and trade, how they're renaming it or what they're using to kind of slide that under the mat.
	The President had a meeting before another Senate committee, which was taking place in some small back room, which I have some clips from.
	And it's about the carbon tax and our dependence upon foreign oil.
	Another question from the Robert Gibbs Show.
	What other approaches would he be open to specifically?
	Well, look, I don't want to narrow or open up our legislative bidding from up here.
	The president reiterated his position that putting a price on carbon, he believes, is the right policy.
	I think science has shown why that's important.
	Oh!
	Science!
	The science is in!
	Just so you know, it's a fact.
	I do think that you had a bipartisan group of legislators here who understand the need to move this legislation forward and get something done this year.
	And I think the president was hopeful after that meeting that we can find common ground on a lot of different subjects.
	And do you think the legislation can be passed this year?
	Yes.
	Yeah, it can be passed this year.
	Right.
	So I go looking for this.
	And I find it.
	It's the CLEAR Act, John.
	The CLEAR Act.
	Which has been around for like a couple years now.
	And, uh, so it's on, you know, it's like this weird committee hearing with our new head of the, uh, minerals, uh, They renamed that to the Ocean Law something or other collection.
	Yeah, they have to keep renaming these things so they become moving targets.
	Apparently it hasn't even officially been renamed.
	So this guy is Bromowich.
	And I think it was a week ago that he was up on the hill being questioned.
	The guy has not left.
	He has not actually been to his agency because...
	And I got to play this...
	I snipped a whole bunch of things together.
	And you'll hear that he keeps saying, well, I've only been on the job for eight days.
	I've only been on the job for eight days.
	I don't know.
	I can't answer any questions.
	I've only been on the job for eight days.
	But a couple of these representatives are not having any of it, and then it becomes very clear that this guy, who's a lawyer, who has been a lawyer for the past ten years in a huge firm who has represented big oil clients, is only there to actually shepherd in great legislation for the oil companies.
	The guy knows nothing about energy other than how to fight in a court for oil companies.
	The CLEAR Act is what it's all about.
	And if you're interested, I can tell you a little bit about the CLEAR Act.
	But listen to this montage, which I put together, of him not knowing anything, only being on the job for eight days, instead of saying, hey, why am I doing this bullshit not being able to answer your questions and go down and actually do some work in my agency, which I've just inherited.
	Now, you know, I've only been on the job.
	I've just got to be up here and I've just got to stall.
	Everything else is taking place.
	Listen to the montage.
	I'll be very brief.
	I want to talk about three concrete things that have been done in the eight days that I have now been on the job as the head of the agency.
	The short answer is I don't know.
	I know you've been there eight days, so whether or not...
	Not eight full days yet.
	Seven and a half.
	Seven and a half days.
	All right.
	The answer is I don't know whether it's necessary.
	I don't know what the view...
	Will you take a review of that as we're looking at this and get back to us?
	Absolutely.
	I can't give you a detailed answer to that.
	I look forward to working with you.
	Will you get back to me on that as well?
	Whether there are reasons why it's not as good an idea as it sounds like to me, I don't know.
	On the Jones Act itself, why is it that the administration has not waived that act so that additional resources can be brought to bear on the problem?
	I don't know the answer to that.
	You may have lost your answer when Secretary Salazar left.
	I really don't know the answer to that.
	One of the disadvantages of being a freshman.
	Thank you.
	Mr.
	Bromwich, you're the head of the Bureau of Ocean Energy.
	What experience do you have in ocean energy?
	I don't have any experience in ocean energy.
	I do have some experience in the energy sector.
	I represented a number of energy clients on non-ocean related matters during my last 10 plus years of law practice.
	I also find it interesting that this bill that's supposed to be dealing with a national crisis in the Gulf of Mexico changes onshore lease sales to a sealed bid process, removing the ability to use live auction bids.
	Interestingly, you did away with the Royalty in Kind program which used a sealed bid process whereas onshore used a live auction and now you're taking the The bid process that was used in royalty in kind and applying it to the onshore in a bill that's supposed to deal with the national crisis in the Gulf of Mexico.
	Fascinating.
	Well, again, my eighth day on the job, I haven't read the CLEAR Act.
	I don't know what the specific requirements are that are contemplated in the CLEAR Act, so I really can't speak to the disconnect you're sensing.
	I'm happy to come back later on when I'm I'm better informed on the specific provisions in the CLEAR Act, but I'm really not able to help you today.
	And just so you know, my inclination is to be as transparent as possible on almost everything.
	It's very obvious to me.
	The Clear Act is how they're going to do it, is how they're going to bring in carbon taxes, and this guy is only brought in to make it happen, and it's really going to benefit only the largest, the absolute largest of all oil companies.
	He's a complete shill.
	And all he's doing is just sitting up there on the hill.
	He's not managing anything.
	He hasn't gone down.
	It was fascinating testimony.
	Two and a half hours.
	I could pull clips all day from it.
	So this clear act was introduced by Maria Cantwell.
	What is she?
	I don't know where she's from.
	Do you want to hear their little promo video from the clear act?
	What it's supposed to be?
	I might as well.
	Okay, here we go.
	Carbon Limits and Energy for America's Renewal Act is what CLEAR stands for.
	The CLEAR Act is a bipartisan clean energy bill introduced last December by Senators Maria Campbell of Washington and Susan Collins of Maine.
	Unlike lengthy legislation that can be complicated to understand, the CLEAR Act addresses climate change simply in just 39 pages.
	These 39 pages will jumpstart our clean energy economy by going directly to the source, fossil fuel producers.
	First, a limit is placed on all the carbon that these producers introduce into the economy.
	Then, they will need to bid at an auction for carbon shares, or permits, to continue to sell their product.
	As the number of carbon shares are gradually reduced, carbon dioxide emissions will steadily and consistently go down as well, reducing CO2 emissions over 80% by the year 2050.
	This mandate to reduce...
	What are you moaning about?
	I'm just saying, this is bullcrap.
	Well, this is the one.
	This is what it's going to be.
	Carbon will create a predictable market signal for clean forms of energy.
	That's just a fancy way of saying that using clean energy will be incentivized for the American people.
	This process will harness the power of the free market, not government, to find the least cost technology solutions and protect the energy market from volatile Wall Street-style trading or even manipulation.
	Now pay attention because here comes the part that I don't really understand.
	The auction revenues, it's the 175-50-25% rule.
	I don't get it.
	Maybe you can help me understand.
	So what happens to all the auction revenues?
	Think of the CLEAR Act as a 175-25-0 policy.
	100% of the permits to bring fossil fuels into the U.S. economy will be auctioned from day one.
	There are no windfalls for historic polluters.
	75% of the auction revenue is returned directly to each American as equal monthly dividends.
	Every low- and middle-income family will come out ahead or break even as a result of the dividend covering their increased energy costs, no matter what state they live in.
	But what about the other 25% of the auction revenue?
	That 25% of the dividend is devoted to investments in clean energy, in jobs to build our clean energy economy, and in the agricultural and forestry communities to encourage environmentally friendly practices.
	So I guess we're...
	Okay, here's what I'm thinking.
	Okay.
	So, for some reason, they're going to charge a tax, or a so-called auction revenue.
	Yeah.
	On the energy companies.
	Let's say $10.
	Right.
	Or just say $100 a barrel.
	Per ton.
	To these guys.
	The $100 a barrel, the $100 will actually be passed on to the consumer, if you think about it, right?
	Yeah, well, that's exactly what they say.
	So you'll be paying the $100, but the government's going to give you $75 of that back, but...
	That means you're out $25 that you're supposed to be gaining in this deal, and you're losing $25 because you're going to have it all handed back to you.
	Anyway, this is bull.
	This is just to talk about a shell game.
	Yeah, exactly.
	It's like a pyramid.
	It's like the guy on the table with the two or three walnut shells and his little pea rolling back and forth.
	This is crap.
	It's just a tax.
	You know, here's the problem.
	I was going to rent a car.
	I'm going to go up to Washington.
	And I'm looking at it.
	It's going to cost me $180 for a week.
	That's cheap.
	Yeah, it is cheap.
	But it doesn't end there.
	Oh.
	It doesn't end.
	Funny you notice.
	Yeah.
	So the total price is $300.
	Yeah, it's because of all the taxes.
	It's like a daily fee.
	I have to pay a fee for having the car on the road instead of in the lot where it makes no money.
	There's a tax on the rental.
	And then there's another tax called a rental tax on top of the sales tax.
	And there's one thing after another.
	And it's almost the entire cost that they quote you is like it's almost doubled because of all these hidden – and these are taxes, by the way.
	These are all taxes.
	We're taxed.
	You go to the airport, you take a plane ride someplace, you're taxed.
	You're taxed at the airport.
	There's an airport fee.
	There's a this fee.
	There's a that fee.
	These are called fees, but they're actually taxes because they go into some government coffer someplace.
	They're not going into the pockets of the guys, you know, that are running the airlines, that's for sure, and it's coming right out of my pocket.
	And this is what's going on.
	They're just trying, you know, they can't tax us anymore, because, you know, we used to brag about, oh, we're one of the lowest taxed countries in the world, it's bull, but they always, oh, we're so low taxed, we don't even look, the highest anyone pays is 35%, and all that kind of thing.
	Yeah, right.
	We're paying about 70% because every time we turn around, we're taxed on something else.
	We're taxed for our food.
	We're taxed for milk.
	And then the dairies are taxed for spilling milk.
	I mean, the whole thing is just we're taxed to death.
	And so they have to get more taxes.
	And what are they doing with this money?
	They can't even fix the potholes out here.
	They're up and down the freeway.
	Do the potholes thing again, man.
	I'm telling you, if you're in the slow lane, you might as well just get a new car by the time you drive three miles.
	Yeah.
	That's been your pet peeve of the month.
	I'm sticking with it until they fix these potholes.
	They're all over the place.
	Here's a challenge for anybody out there coming through the San Francisco Bay Area.
	Come off, if you're heading on East Highway 80, except from San Francisco or from the South Bay Area, get off.
	You have to be heading east, by the way, to get the full effect.
	Get off on Emeryville, the Emeryville exit, and just head to the Trader Joe's that's over there.
	You will hit a patch of road you'd swear was in Mexico someplace.
	It might as well be a dirt road.
	I'm going to make a movie of this.
	This is so bad.
	It's unbelievable.
	This road is just like it's a mess.
	So anyway, I believe we need to keep our eye on the clear act.
	This is the cap and trade, and this Bromwich jabroni has been brought in to shepherd it through.
	He's a lawyer.
	He doesn't know anything about the business of oil.
	He never will.
	He'll just be in it long enough to get this thing passed.
	That's right.
	He's just a lawyer.
	And you look at him, and he has this smug look on his face.
	He's just...
	So, what was pretty cool...
	President Clinton was on a CNN Fortune Time Magazine panel.
	And he was asked about, you know, all this anti-Obama, the Obama hate.
	Even the people who voted for him are now pissed off that he's not doing anything.
	Clinton's kind of defending him, saying, oh, you know, the guy can't win either way.
	You know, people hate you when their own lives are no good.
	And then he...
	Oh, yeah, it's great.
	It's great.
	And then it's...
	Actually, I clipped that part out because the other stuff was just too mint.
	We'll have to stop a couple times in this clip.
	He has the solution for the well, but then...
	And it's too bad that you're not seeing the video.
	When he talks about this gusher in the Gulf, his eyes light up, man.
	It's freaky to see how pleased he is with the amount of oil that's coming out.
	But, of course, he has all the solutions, and he knows exactly how he would do it if he were still president.
	Before we play that clip, let me mention something that was kind of interesting this week that involved Clinton.
	So we have this situation where Clinton apparently has endorsed a couple of candidates around the country that are in direct conflict with Obama's endorsements.
	I didn't know that.
	Oh yeah.
	And it's a big deal.
	So the next thing you know, you see a picture of Clinton apparently meeting in Russia with...
	Medvedev?
	No, no, the other guy.
	The boss.
	Putin?
	Putin.
	And so he's meeting with Putin as Medvedev, of course, is floating around the U.S. and I guess he took off.
	And then pretty much while Clinton was sitting down with Putin, not quite, but they showed it that way in all the news shows, they break up this huge Russian spy ring with Clinton sitting there in Moscow having to deal with this.
	And so...
	I'm thinking that, you know, and of course, we have no way of knowing what the FBI or anybody's doing.
	It's just a coincidence that, you know, we have all these situations happening when they happen, because there's a Chinese wall between, you know, the government can't be involved, as if nobody's tipped anybody off or told them to do this or that.
	The whole thing just stinks.
	Let me tell you one thing I have on good authority.
	Every country has spies in other countries.
	And there's two types of spies.
	The registered spies and the unregistered spies.
	I know it sounds crazy, but we know which Russian operatives which are registered are in the United States.
	And I believe that this was probably one of those rings.
	Well, they said they were unregistered.
	They made a big point of that.
	And, of course, the fact of the matter is they didn't have to do anything because these people weren't doing anything.
	There was no espionage charges.
	And they could have kept an eye on them knowing what they know.
	It's easier to follow them around and see what's going on.
	You can kind of put together networks and figure things out so you would normally not bust them.
	So meanwhile, they busted him just because Clinton was over there to embarrass the guy.
	There's a battle going on between Clinton and Obama.
	Interesting.
	Okay, I like that take.
	They did pull an extra little benefit out of it.
	Wired Magazine, of course, which I'm quite...
	Suspicious of them and the stuff, the articles they post, now they're saying that this alleged spy ring was posting all their secret messages encoded on public websites and images, and you have to overlay a different type of filter in Photoshop, and then you get maps of airports and all kinds of stuff.
	That's bullcrap.
	I mean, they're talking about steganography, actually, which is a type of encryption.
	But you can just go run PGP and get in a chat room and tell anybody anything you want nowadays.
	This is bold.
	Nobody's doing Dropboxes and all the rest of it.
	No, they're just using it to push the agenda of licensed internet is the way I felt it was going.
	Oh, I think it was just to make it seem more spy-like.
	Hmm.
	A lot of information, though.
	Well, now that you're on that, I might as well play this clip from CNN before I get to Clinton because I was just like, wow, CNN knows everything about this.
	Hold on a second.
	It's slow to load for some reason.
	New arrest in Russian deep cover case.
	There you go.
	This is pretty astounding.
	Come on, CNN. Hurry up.
	And don't give me a pre-roll or I'll kick your ass.
	Here comes the pre-roll.
	No.
	No, no, no, no.
	CNN is slow today.
	I saw a great pre-roll the other day.
	This is about encrypted computer messages, drop points, and secret meetings.
	The 11 people accused of being spies are described as Russian intelligence operatives whose goal was to recruit people in the U.S. government or people with access to policymaking, according to the criminal complaint.
	They're like a lobbyist firm.
	There's nothing new about that.
	One intercepted message makes clear the men and women, some of them using the names of dead people, were given bank accounts, cars, and houses, and were expected to send back intelligence reports.
	Among the alleged spies, a long-time columnist for Spanish-language newspaper El Diario and her husband both arrested the Yonkers New York.
	And Yonkers New York, let me tell you, when you live in New York, the big joke is no one lives in Yonkers.
	Now we know.
	Yeah, well, it's a hotbed of spy actors.
	Apparently.
	Home searched Monday.
	According to the complaint, the spy set up secret ad hoc computer networks and transferred information between computers at specific designated times.
	In one case, an alleged spy set up her computer to send encrypted data at a coffee shop near Times Square.
	An official with ties to the Russian mission to the U.N. was in the area at that same time, apparently receiving the coded information.
	In Washington, D.C., a U.S. undercover agent posing as a Russian met with another alleged spy in a local park.
	The undercover agent gave the accused spy Mikhail Semenko $5,000 to leave at a secret drop point under a bridge in Arlington, Virginia, which he did.
	How does she know all this?
	Yeah.
	This is bullcrap.
	I hope that our listeners were laughing out loud as these stories were being unfolded.
	Yeah.
	This is just crazy.
	I think you're right.
	I think it is to embarrass Clinton.
	It was probably Clinton's spy ring that he knew about.
	Maybe.
	All right.
	So let's listen to Bill for a second.
	I think the federal government's position ought to be very straightforward.
	The most important thing is to fix the leak.
	If anybody can help us fix the leak, I'm for it.
	Hey, anyone having ideas on how to fix the leak?
	Second most important thing is to keep the oil away from the shores.
	The third most important thing is to minimize the damage of the oil that reaches the shores.
	The fourth most important thing today It's to figure out who did what wrong and hold them accountable, whether it was somebody in British Petroleum or somebody in the U.S. government.
	So it's exactly the opposite now.
	This is exactly the opposite of what's happening, because we've got Bramowitz up there, and everyone's saying, how did it happen, how did it happen, how did it happen, how did it happen?
	We've done nothing but how did it happen, how did it happen?
	Nothing to fix it.
	And I'll do that, but let's do one, two, and three first.
	All right.
	And then...
	By the way, his mouth is like...
	It's really, like, sticky.
	It's kind of icky.
	He doesn't look good.
	He's got...
	Really?
	It doesn't look good.
	It's always a sign of heroin users.
	No, really, sir, if you find somebody, you know, you see somebody talking, they constantly have...
	White strings in their mouth?
	White strings.
	That's disgusting.
	That's a heroin junkie.
	Clinton, you never know.
	Well, you never know.
	Yes, he should show empathy, and yes, he should feel their pain and all that, but what people want is to fix a leak.
	So one of the best things that they've done is to deploy massive naval and Coast Guard resources and finally start taking help from other countries.
	Which is not true, because we just heard that in the Bromwich discussion, that the Jones Act is still enacted and foreign help is not being allowed.
	This is Clinton giving the needle to Obama.
	Exactly.
	But unless we send the Navy down deep to blow up the well.
	Blow up the well!
	Here we go.
	This is what the Russians did when it happened to them.
	And cover the leak with piles and piles and piles of rock and debris, which may become necessary.
	You don't have to use a nuclear weapon, by the way.
	I've seen all that stuff.
	Yeah, yeah.
	You don't need no nukes.
	That's just stupid.
	I got TNT in my back pocket that can do that.
	Just blow it up.
	Unless we're going to do that, we are dependent on the technical expertise of these people from BP. They had 11 of their folks killed on that explosion.
	The people that are working on this, whatever the managers did wrong or didn't, they're good people.
	They're trying to do the right thing.
	So I think we ought to just row in the same boat for a while until we plug the leak, keep the stuff away from the shore, minimize the damage of what's on the shore.
	There are 20,000 Vietnamese immigrants who came to this country who are making a living off the shrimping business, all of whom are thinking about their family facing bankruptcy now.
	Let's just fix the problem.
	And then we...
	What?
	No, I'm just saying.
	I think we've heard enough of this.
	It's coming up.
	I want you to hear about him talking about the well.
	It's necessary.
	He's definitely giving it to Obama in this talk.
	Well, but he's also completely vested in BP and the success of the oil company.
	You'll hear it.
	You'll hear it.
	Listen to this.
	Hold everybody accountable and emote or not emote or whatever.
	But I think the president's gotten a bum rap on this emoting deal.
	I think that you've got to be who you are.
	You've got to be who you feel comfortable with.
	And whatever your personality is, it is.
	It's funny, right?
	Yeah, that's a good one.
	You're a douche, you're a douche.
	But I don't find him lacking in empathy just because he doesn't blow his top at the slightest provocation.
	I think it's a bum rap.
	Just one clarification.
	Are you concerned that those two relief wells that they're drilling right now...
	Wolf Blitzer.
	Now listen, now his eyes light up on this one.
	It's supposed to be ready in August and stop this leak.
	Might not work.
	Yeah, at some point I think we'll have to ask ourselves...
	I just am not into this, you know.
	I've not been part of the decision-making process, so I'm not second-guessing anybody.
	I'm just telling you, this is a geological monster.
	And I'll tell you one thing, whoever did the sighting for BP knew what the heck they were doing.
	It's one heck of an oil well.
	There's more oil down there than I ever dreamed.
	And it can't wait to find its way into your car, because it just keeps gushing up, you know.
	It keeps gushing up, Billy boy!
	Love it, love it, love it, love it.
	He's so in on this.
	And his eyes are like, it's a gusher.
	It's a gusher.
	It can't wait to get in your car.
	It's because they hit the motherlode, man.
	Abiogenic oil.
	That guy obviously has something to do with it anyway.
	So he's still giving it to Obama in an offhanded way.
	No, the guy's just a bum rap that he's got no personality.
	He can't help it.
	Can't help it.
	It's just the way he is.
	If somebody's like a dud, that's the way they go.
	That's what happens, dude.
	That's what happens.
	He doesn't blow up all the time.
	He's just the way he is.
	He's, you know...
	Let's take a moment here.
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	Okay, cool.
	So let's look at something that we got an email from somebody, and I started...
	This has kind of screwed me up because it came in late, and now it's going to be like a two-parter.
	I'm going to have to go look into this deeper.
	But there's this operation, you can look at it, called Fenton Communications.
	Okay.
	They are a...
	They're kind of...
	They're the left-wing equivalent.
	Vigory does this for the right, but these people are...
	They are a big PR agency, huge, actually the biggest, that are always involved in public policy issues.
	Are they bigger than Hill and Knowlton?
	Well, for left-wing, specific targeted left-wing initiatives, they're the biggest in the world.
	In terms of doing stuff for big governments, they're small potatoes compared to Hill and Nolten, but right now they're apparently working for Qatar as part of a disinformation campaign to defame Israel.
	Oh.
	And this is kind of typical of, you know, what we heard from Melanie Phillips a couple of shows ago where she says all these left-wing groups have a lot in common with the Islamists, is that they all hate the Jews.
	And, of course, we've got a bunch of mail about this.
	And so let me read to you from...
	From a blog called FresnoZionism.org.
	And so after I read this, for the first time I said, well, you know, this is undocumented.
	But a lot of this is documented.
	There is actually some paperwork showing that they've signed up to be a foreign agent on behalf of a website that you can look at called Fahora.org, which is in Qatar, and it's run by the second wife.
	They said it's because of the wife of the ruler, but she's actually the second of three wives.
	She's the middle one.
	And it's F-A-K-H-O-O-R-A dot org.
	And this is presumably an operation that is supposed to be involved with giving kids scholarships.
	And it seems that most of the scholarships are to study Islamic law.
	But if you really look at the website, the homepage, and anything in there, it's really about slamming Israel over the situation with the Turkish ships.
	And by the way, I think that When you say Jews in this case, are we not speaking of Zionists and Zionism?
	No, we're talking about Israelis, essentially.
	The Jewish state.
	I mean, because this PR agency actually represents a Jewish organization which is involved with women's rights, even though they've got nothing to do with anything in the Middle East.
	So let me just read a couple of notes here.
	Fenton Communications, apparently...
	This is from the blog I read.
	Today their goal is to prevent the Jewish state, they're talking about this PR company, from defending itself by creating a massive public opinion that sees its self-defense as war crimes, and to prevent the Jewish state from defending itself so that its enemies can finally succeed in doing what they've been trying to do since Israel was born, destroy it.
	These guys have been, they're allied with MoveOn.org and Google.
	Greenpeace, Ben& Jerry's, Melissa Gates, Bill& Melissa Gates Foundation.
	Here's a clip they took from another website.
	It says, Fenton Communications, which has its offices in Washington, D.C., New York, and San Francisco, signed two contracts last year with Qatar to develop a communications action plan for an 18-month campaign aimed at delegitimizing Israel and generating international support for the Hamas-run Gaza Strip.
	There's documents from the...
	they have attached, and these could be forged, but I don't think so, with the Justice Department documents showing that they're now signed as foreign agents.
	Contract worth $390,000, more than we make, with the Office of Your Highness...
	Name's too long to mention, the wife of the Qatari ruler.
	Separate foundation, she chairs, the whole thing.
	So I started looking into it.
	And in fact, this public relations operation, Fenton, is definitely worth kind of checking out for who they represent.
	They don't list everybody, but it seems as though it's pretty much a mostly left-wing operation.
	And you start looking into it, and the funny thing is, You start finding the names of people associated with associated sites that feed them news stories.
	You see the same names cropping up over and over.
	And one of my favorite ones is running into this woman, Phyllis Bennis, who's at the Institute for Policy Studies, which is an operation...
	It's kind of a front for something, but they produced this newsletter, online news thing called the FPIF, the Foreign Policy something Foundation.
	Go to fpif.org, I think, and find it.
	Anyway, she's a fellow there, and she seems to crop up any time Fenton does any kind of publicity for anybody in various regular news articles by being quoted profusely.
	My favorite example, and then I dig into this, and I find it this kind of interesting.
	She showed up in 2005 in a Salon Magazine article about Cindy Sheehan, and when you do a little research, you find out that Fenton Communications did a pro bono representation of Sheehan.
	They're the ones who brought her to the fore.
	And you can take clips from anything about Sheehan, and you can take and put those in Google, and you'll find article after article after article of pretty much cookie-cutter stories about Sheehan.
	And you'll also notice, if you look in the...
	Since Obama's got in, they dropped Sheehan because they don't need...
	It's Obama's war now, and so she's done.
	So I get the biggest kick out of following this stuff.
	So can I just give you, from their website, Fenton's track record?
	We are the firm that helped.
	Galvanize public opposition to end apartheid.
	Legitimize global warming as an urgent threat to our future.
	They're taking credit for this.
	Compel government bans and restrictions on toxins such as bisphenol A and artificial growth hormones in everyday consumer products.
	Prevent hard liquor advertising from airing on network TV. Establish the national amber alert.
	And create a system at the Centers for Disease Control that tracks data on violent deaths to prevent homicides and suicides.
	So that's their track record.
	Yeah, that's just the tip of their track record iceberg.
	I mean, they have done a lot of stuff that goes under the radar.
	A lot of pro bono work for liberal operations.
	And they also represent, they have a client list that says, Unbelievable.
	Yeah, I'm looking at it right now.
	It's huge.
	Which has got pretty much every left-leaning operation in the country.
	And it's actually kind of frightening.
	The fact that they've now decided to take on Israel, which I think is disingenuous, to say the least.
	And it's also probably...
	I mean, they had to sign up as a foreign agent to do this.
	Because it's against U.S. interests, generally speaking.
	And, you know, so that's what they had to do all this, go through this rigmarole.
	I think it's really, I'll look into this operation a little more.
	I'm sure there's more interesting connections in the past because with Google now you can do some date-limited stuff and they'll crop up, especially if you know who the players are.
	In other words, you see these same writers and these same contacts and these same combinations of why is this one person being quoted all the time in regards to this one topic?
	And you see the people sneak into the public domain like the Cindy Sheehan's of the world because they're being promoted.
	It's probably needs looking into, let's put it that way.
	But anyway, the reason I got triggered by this is because we got the guy who complained about the Melanie Phillips piece that we ran at the end of a show a couple weeks ago, or about a week ago, I guess.
	He basically gave us the laundry list of all the bad things about Israel and the Jewish state that was essentially the checklist from Fenton.
	Oh, really?
	So you think that a Fenton operative is...
	No, I don't think so.
	I think he was...
	Well, that's always a possibility.
	It's always a possibility, but it could be either an operative, because the checklist is there, or it could be just somebody who's been completely...
	Indoctrinated.
	Stooched out, indoctrinated already, and this is only the beginning, because this campaign is just fairly new.
	Okay.
	In conclusion?
	Well, in conclusion, I think that we're going to have to start looking a little more...
	I think we're getting a little lazy about following the public relations that's behind almost everything we're starting to witness on the mainstream media to the point where, I mean, we aren't getting any news.
	I mean, even back as far as 2005, if you can look up the Salon Magazine article on Cindy Sheehan, you can do it by...
	I mean, the writers, I looked up the writers to see if he had any consistent, you know, a lot of times you'll run it, especially with the Guardian, you'll find the writers are just right, you know, basic doctrinaire, left-wing material.
	But this guy is just all over the place, so I don't think so.
	But he has obviously fed a lot of...
	A lot of stuff from the PR agency because it makes life so much easier because you get, you know, let me hook you up with someone and I'll tell you about this.
	Yeah, here you go.
	And so you basically handed a story in a silver platter and you have no way to get out of the way it's being presented.
	And this is what's going on.
	And I, you know, resent people telling us that, you know, we're stooges for one thing or another.
	And we're very aware of this mechanism and we uncover it constantly.
	And...
	I would say that you should really check your own sources.
	Why are you thinking the way you're thinking?
	And in fact, although it's just kind of funny, we know that Hill& Knowlton is the agency for the High Speed Rail Association of America, and it seems like they've done quite a good job this week.
	All aboard!
	Train's good, plane's bad.
	Woo!
	A number of outstanding stories they've placed.
	Maggots in luggage locker delay U.S. flight in Atlanta.
	There's a lot of this.
	My favorite, which showed up in USA Today and a couple other big, big mainstream publications, airline food kitchens have rodent problem.
	And, in fact, you can almost hear this CBS News report, you can almost hear that it's a setup by Hill and Knowlton.
	It's a pre-packaged deal.
	Now, apparently the FDA did an investigation six months ago, and I went to the FDA site, I went to foodsafety.com, could not find said report.
	They went to Sky Chef and a couple other of these huge outfits that do the catering for airlines, and they found rats and all kinds of safety violations and hazards.
	And there's a CBS, this is network news, They put together this package and it really, I mean, if this isn't pre-produced, I don't know what is.
	Particularly the woman they interview from Sky Chef.
	You know, she's like some poor woman.
	Some poor Hispanic woman who's just like, I don't know.
	I don't know.
	I can't talk about that.
	Literally how she's talking.
	It's like, you know, they didn't go to like the press department apparently.
	Just listen to how planes are being once again marginalized so that trains can be put in and And then we'll give you Chris Matthews to finish that out.
	Here we go, CBS News.
	Oh, guess what?
	I checked five times on this site, and there was no pre-roll.
	Now all of a sudden I get a freaking pre-roll.
	Sorry about that.
	So a couple other reports while we're waiting for the pre-roll to finish.
	Body scanners.
	So when you think airline safety, you probably think about maintenance and mechanical issues.
	It could put you at risk.
	But what if we told you it is the food served at 30,000 feet that you really should be worrying about?
	CBS2's Consumer Reporter Kirsten Cole has the filthy findings.
	More than half a billion meals a year are made by some of the largest airline food kitchens in the U.S. And a recent analysis by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration found that food preparation in some of these kitchens is a recipe for disaster.
	Violations include roaches, mice, unsanitary conditions and no place for employees to wash hands.
	Volume always leads to problems.
	Obviously, there's not a lot of accountability.
	Food prep in all three New York area airports were cited for violations, including LSG Sky Chef for food that was subject to contamination, employees not washing hands thoroughly, touching food surfaces with bare hands, and failure to clean and sanitize to protect food from contamination.
	We went to their LaGuardia Airport facility to try to speak to someone in charge.
	These findings by the FDA of uncleanliness and possible contamination of food.
	I can't say anything.
	A spokesperson for LSG Sky Chef says they make 405 million meals a year and that we have comprehensive and multi-layered quality control standards in place to ensure our customers receive safe, healthy, and high-quality food.
	And those systems are checked and confirmed through a series of approximately 400 audits a year.
	I would say right now the FDA is woefully inadequate in most aspects of our food protection.
	At another food service company, Gate Gourmet, the FDA found it failed to keep food at safe temperatures, failed to keep equipment clean, that there was no hot water for hand washing in the restroom, and that there was black residue in the kitchens and on the ice machine.
	The makers of 50 Million Meals said their inspections are taken very seriously and assist us in further improving our service.
	At issue, according to food safety experts, is a lack of oversight when it comes to cleaning and food preparation, leading to oftentimes dangerous conditions for diners.
	And Flying Food, which has facilities in Newark, JFK, and across the U.S., has been cited for failure to test for dangerous microbes, not taking precautions for contamination, lack of proper hand-washing facilities, and lack of adequate drainage, which may provide a breeding place for pests.
	They stated, we now service our JFK customers from a brand new $32 million state-of-the-art airline catering facility that raises the bar on quality, cleanliness, and efficiency in airline catering worldwide.
	But these reports will no doubt give many flyers food for thought.
	At LaGuardia Airport, Kirsten Cole, CBS 2 News.
	Hold on a second.
	Was this like a half hour special?
	What happened to the idea of a sound bite?
	There's no way that WCBS TV in New York put this package together.
	There's just no way.
	There's just no way.
	This was pre-produced.
	They knew what they were getting.
	I've never seen this woman.
	And I can't find the report.
	If anyone can find this report from six months ago, apparently, on the FDA website, send it to me, please.
	I don't get it.
	I can't find the report.
	You know what gets me about this?
	It's so obvious what's going on here.
	I mean, we've been harping on this.
	This is one of our topics du jour that we have a jingle.
	Yes, that's how much we've been harping on it.
	We've got a jingle.
	That's how much we've been harping on it.
	The question is, is that what is wrong with the airlines that they can't counter this?
	This is just eating right into their pocketbook.
	I mean, although there's not really an alternative for most travel.
	I mean, it's like you can talk a big game, but nobody's taking the train, let's face it.
	Even if they put a high-speed rail and nobody's taking the train, it's just not going to happen.
	So it's not like they're losing their asses, but you think that they would do something to protect their image because if some weird thing happens and you end up in some court case, nobody's going to be, you know, all this comes out and says, aren't you guys careless?
	I mean, I don't understand why they let this situation get out of control like this.
	There's not one...
	I haven't seen anything to counter any of this stuff.
	Is there actually a...
	Well, we'd have to find out who the PR agency is and never hire them.
	Well, there's no PR agency, I think.
	They're all doing their own thing.
	That's probably it.
	I think United's got its own PR agency, and they're just, you know, like every other PR agency nowadays, doing nothing, by the way.
	Sitting around, you know, yeah, well, you know, we can't do it by ourselves, so we're not going to do anything.
	I'm not even going to take any calls.
	Well, they're broke.
	They're broke, too.
	Yeah, they're broke.
	So here's Chris Matthews, who clearly got the message and the memo from Hill and Knowlton on his Hardball with Chris Matthews.
	Let me finish tonight with the pathetic state of the economy and one big thing we can do about it.
	Today we learned the consumer confidence number fell nearly 10 points since last month.
	It's not hard to figure why.
	The unemployment number for May showed a dismal growth of just 41,000 in American civilian jobs and people got the word.
	All this, the bad June unemployment number expected Friday, the bad consumer confidence number, the drop in the Dow today, all working together What's
	the answer, Chris?
	What do we do?
	But we've got everybody in the world cutting back.
	And what's that to do with the prospect of economic expansion here at home?
	Well, it kills it.
	If you're looking for good news, I have one suggestion.
	Stop listening to Europe.
	Stop listening to the Conservatives.
	Do what has worked in the past.
	What got us out of the Great Depression was production.
	Massive industrial production to support the allied cause in World War II. We need production for this country now.
	We need to build rapid rail to catch up to those allies from World War II. France already has the Tejaveh.
	China is building its rapid rail system.
	It's time we join the movement.
	We need to go back to the future and become a country that builds things again.
	It'll create jobs.
	It'll catch us up to the rest of the world.
	It'll cut our reliance on oil.
	It'll give us hope we can believe in.
	Look, Lincoln built the continental railroads even in the middle of the Civil War.
	Ike built the interstate highway system in the supposedly do-nothing 50s.
	President Obama, just do it.
	Just do it.
	Rail.
	High-speed rail.
	It's going to save us.
	How does this look into the future?
	Don't you think that supersonic transports like jets that do 1,500 miles an hour is a little more futuristic than putting a train line in?
	No, we need to go back to the future.
	You heard the man.
	Back to the future.
	Yeah, that was terrible.
	Airport body scanners could give you cancer, like we didn't know that.
	Good report there from the Telegraph.
	And our national treasure, PBS, has a fantastic month.
	The whole month of July is airline calamity month.
	Is that right?
	Well, I don't think they're actually billing it as such.
	But we have the deadliest plane crash.
	That airs...
	Hold on, let me get the schedule here.
	Deadliest plane crash.
	This is Nova.
	Nova for July.
	July 6, 8pm.
	Missing in Mig Alley.
	July 13, 8pm.
	Deadliest plane crash.
	July 20, B-29.
	Frozen in time.
	July 27, who killed the Red Baron?
	It is absolutely airplane calamity month on Nova.
	Your national treasure.
	Brought to you by Siemens, who are making trains.
	Unbelievable.
	There's a story that we actually, I think somebody ran on the blog, also another story, one you overlooked, is just to give us more impetus.
	Apparently Russia is in bed with the French train maker to get high speed rail throughout Russia.
	Well they ordered 200 high speed electric locomotives.
	Yeah, and then they have a picture of these.
	Those don't even look like, you know, medium-speed electric locomotives.
	They're those clunkers that are all over Europe.
	They go fast, like 80 or 90, but it's not like 400 miles an hour.
	No, it says 200 kilometers, 124 miles per hour.
	Well, I guess if it's going downhill, it could hit that.
	That's not what I call high-speed rail.
	We used to have trains in the United States that were steam engines that went that fast.
	Ah, yes, that would be the Taggart Express.
	Ooh, wait a minute.
	Boom!
	By Ayn Rand.
	What?
	Nothing.
	You can't take the subject seriously.
	I'm taking the subject very seriously.
	Hey, I didn't throw any chemtrails on you, at least.
	Well, you just did.
	No, I'm waiting, because people are sending me tons of links, and I'm going to hit upon the actual...
	You're going to have guys showing up at the house.
	You know the type.
	They're going to be, like, slightly lopsided, slightly cross-eyed.
	That's my people, man.
	What are you talking about?
	That's my peeps.
	And they forget the comb.
	Shut up.
	Shut up.
	That's my people.
	They're right there.
	So, I'd like to...
	Wait, we've got one more topic I want to get to.
	Oh, I'm so sorry.
	I'm so sorry.
	So, Petraeus.
	Yes.
	Here's an interesting thing.
	McChrystal resigned, by the way.
	He's out.
	Yeah, I heard that.
	And they're letting him resign.
	This is exactly what we said.
	We said he was going to resign.
	He'll never have to buy himself another beer ever again because people love him, the people who understand what he was actually doing as a patriot, although he was completely misdirected.
	and they let him resign as a four-star general, which he actually, I guess he wasn't a four-star general long enough to technically be able to resign with that commendation.
	But now he gets a bigger pension.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
	He gets a bigger pension.
	He's got to resign.
	People say, why didn't he just resign if he didn't like it?
	You have this convoluted theory that he had to do all these things to kind of get kicked out.
	So I know where you're going, and I think we should play the CNN piece from your blog, actually, from Dvorak.org slash blog.
	I think you're going towards Lara Logan.
	Well, I wasn't headed toward Laura Logan, but Laura Logan was part of, you know, the whole thing.
	Yeah, she actually was stunned.
	Actually, everyone's on her case because she stupidly made some negative commentary about the guy Hastings' article on McChrystal that got him fired.
	And she was befuddled by the whole thing, saying, this doesn't work this way.
	In fact, she went on and on with about how it's impossible for what this guy did.
	So just play a little bit of her, because I thought it was interesting.
	So Matt Taibbi...
	The guy who's written in Rolling Stone magazine about Goldman Sachs, which of course made no impact on Washington.
	Same magazine.
	Another great writer.
	He said, you know, this is bull crap.
	He actually says, Lara Logan, you suck, was the title of his article.
	And I'll give you my thoughts on that in a minute.
	But here she is on CNN, I guess, saying she's befuddled about how this could actually take place.
	The Rolling Stone piece that ended General McChrystal's career raises an intriguing journalistic question.
	Could this have happened with a military beat reporter?
	Joining us now is a woman with plenty of experience in Afghanistan and Iraq, CBS's Chief Foreign Correspondent, Laura Logan.
	Welcome.
	If you had been traveling with General McChrystal and heard these comments about Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Jim Jones, Richard Holbrook, would you have reported them?
	Well, it really depends on the circumstances.
	It's hard to know here.
	Michael Hastings, if you believe him, says that there were no ground rules laid out.
	And, I mean, that just doesn't really make a lot of sense to me because if you look at the people around General McChrystal, if you look at his history, he was the Joint Special Operations Commander.
	He has a history of not interacting with the media at all.
	And his Chief of Intelligence, Mike Flynn, is the same.
	I mean, I know these people.
	They never let their guard down like that.
	To me, something doesn't add up here.
	I just, I don't believe it.
	When you are out with the troops and you're living together and sleeping together, is there an uns...
	Boy, I wouldn't mind sleeping with her.
	There is a rumor.
	She's hot.
	...spoken agreement that you're not going to embarrass them by reporting insults and banter.
	Yes.
	Tell me about that.
	Yes, absolutely.
	There is an element of trust.
	And what I find is the most telling thing about what Michael Hastings said in your interview is that he talked about his manner as pretending to build an illusion of trust.
	And he's laid out there what his game is.
	That is exactly the kind of damaging type of attitude that makes it difficult for reporters who are genuine about what they do.
	I don't go around in my personal life pretending to be one thing and then being something else.
	I mean, I find it egregious that anyone would do that in their professional life.
	And I mean, I take that to the point of even when I apply to interview someone about something difficult and they want to know the areas of the interview, I might not say, well, we're going to spend the whole interview on this, but I will list that.
	I will list that controversial issue.
	You don't want to blindside them.
	So what she's basically saying...
	By the way, she's married to a Blackwater guy, you know.
	Oh, there you go.
	So what she's basically saying is, you know, if you uncover something, you need to keep it off the record and protect your relationship so that you can continue to have a relationship and report.
	So she continued not to give us any news.
	So when I saw, and these are both linked to both this video and Matt Tabby's column, who says this is what's wrong with journalism in the world, and he's right.
	Oh, yeah.
	But see, they're both wrong.
	They both missed the point, is that this was a setup.
	It was a setup.
	Right.
	The point that we make on this show, which is that the whole thing was an obvious setup, she actually confirms it, but she doesn't know she's confirming it, right?
	She's bitching about the article, but what she's complaining about is actually telling you that this couldn't have possibly happened unless it was meant to happen.
	Exactly.
	She never says that.
	But because she's not thinking in those terms.
	But what this game, Crystal couldn't, people would say, well, why don't you just quit if he hated the situation?
	He couldn't.
	He'd be quitting with three stars.
	He would be very dubious.
	He looked like a quitter.
	He looked like a coward.
	I mean, he's...
	He just couldn't resign.
	It was impossible.
	He would put himself into a hole so he could get out.
	And what it's apparent, he tried to get out.
	First, he leaked the memo, which was insubordination.
	They wouldn't kick him out on that.
	Then he does something else.
	Then he finally does this ridiculous interview, which just makes him look like a complete insubordinate.
	So they have to make a deal to get him out of there, which they do give him an extra star and tell him to get lost.
	He's happy.
	He's accomplished what he needed to accomplish.
	And if nobody thinks this wasn't a complete...
	Fake, set up, even though even Hastings may have not known it, but whatever the case was, just listening to her, she pretty much says, this guy doesn't talk to anybody.
	Why is this guy, this freelancer, hanging around for a month?
	Partying.
	And the Pentagon has, at least what Matt Taibbi writes, has 30,000 people in their PR department.
	Yeah, he says they have a budget of over $3 billion in PR. 30,000 people.
	And then this just got through some, oops, oh, we slipped up, didn't we?
	Come on, people.
	Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
	No, and now we know that we're just going to be in Afghanistan longer.
	Yeah, and of course...
	Well, then they bring in, of course, they've got this, you know, as you know, I'm not a fan of Petraeus, but if you want to read something, dig up the Petraeus article that was written in the Daily Kos in 2007, where they blast Petraeus for having, for one thing, having one of the valor medals with a V on it.
	It's a bronze star with a V on it, which means he had to have been killed or shot or wounded.
	They say he's never discharged his gun in a war zone.
	He's covered with medals from head to toe.
	Most people that are high up say you don't have to wear all the medals.
	They're not all required.
	There are certain...
	Uber medals that count for half the medals underneath them.
	You know, these ribbons.
	And you can take off the ones below.
	But no, this guy has to look like...
	I've said it before.
	And the military people who listen to this show can say whatever they want about it.
	He looks like a generalissimo in a banana republic with all these things hanging off of him.
	And all that's missing is the big giant hat that's got the big top.
	You know, that hat they wear with all the scrambled eggs all over it.
	Why does he wear that?
	I guess he has to take his hat off.
	It's ridiculous, this guy.
	I hope people see it.
	I hope what we discuss on this show makes people at least question some of this.
	Oh, boy.
	Yeah, that was a good one.
	So I think things are moving very, very swiftly.
	It seems like, certainly in the United States of Gitmo Nation, there's a lot of things that need to be accomplished before the November election, and it's just one after another.
	You know, the president was on this morning talking about immigration, and it's just like, is there something we've overlooked?
	Is there something else that we can't give up control of?
	Certainly there must be more.
	I don't know.
	Financial reform, it's cap and trade.
	Oh, of course, our Second Amendment.
	That was a good one.
	That was very, very scary, actually, with the Supreme Court.
	Oh, yeah.
	Four people on the Supreme Court, as far as they're concerned, guns are out.
	So if Elena Kagan comes in, she could tip the balance and then...
	No, no, she'll be part of the...
	She's replacing one of the four.
	Oh, okay.
	I believe.
	It's not a new justice.
	It's five to four right now.
	Five to four, but it doesn't actually...
	I mean, we have a constitution.
	And this is why I love living in America, because the government knows at the end of the day, we've all got guns.
	And they will lose.
	This is why it's great.
	Yeah, it sucks.
	People get shot, and you're probably likely to kill yourself with your own gun.
	But at the end of the day, that's what makes America beautiful.
	In fact, Petraeus, the only time he was shot was by another soldier, supposedly by accident.
	Whoops, sorry about that.
	Sorry, boss.
	Well, maybe I'll get another ribbon.
	He did.
	I think he got the Purple Heart for that.
	So, yeah, it's amazing.
	It's astounding to watch.
	And I think the, of course, we'll see this Wall Street reform, which the president is lying about, saying it's all about consumer protection.
	But please go and read the bill.
	It's linked in the show notes, noagendashow.com.
	It's complicated, but just look at how many times the Board of Governors is listed as the guys who are in charge.
	And the Board of Governors are bankers at the Federal Reserve, which is not a part of the government.
	And they're bankers overseeing their own banks.
	And the government will be able to determine if something needs to be unwound and they'll unwind it.
	So it's moral hazard.
	It's go ahead and fail.
	We'll bail.
	Don't fail.
	It's easy.
	It's just a beautiful, beautiful system that's being set up.
	And then we'll be paying, as we already showed on this show, 25% more in energy.
	Because the rest will be stolen.
	And we'll probably get some kind of bogus tax credit.
	That doesn't work for me.
	Yeah, we won't even get the money.
	We'll get a tax credit, so we have to make the money to get the money.
	Yeah, that never works for me.
	It's like, I don't want a tax credit.
	Just give me the cash.
	Just send us your cash up front.
	So on more lighthearted news...
	Yes, I got a couple of lighthearted ones as well.
	You might want to finish with those.
	We're wrapping up here.
	Yeah, you go ahead.
	The NAACP in California endorsed the marijuana law.
	This is the National Association...
	For the Advancement of Colored People.
	Right.
	And now all the black ministers are all upset about this because they don't think marijuana should be legalized, and no one wants to listen to the arguments for it.
	Of course, we have law enforcement that's going to be chiming in pretty soon.
	There's going to be a whole bunch, a very interesting ad campaign coming up, I'm assuming, probably later this year.
	I'm guessing it'll get...
	Hot and heavy starting in September.
	We'll follow it.
	But there's a little story on it and you can see kind of the...
	They didn't slant it one way or the other yet because we don't have any big PR agencies involved at the moment.
	Here we go.
	The president of California's NAACP announced today his organization is supporting a November ballot measure that would legalize marijuana.
	The group says it's a matter of civil rights.
	It says last year 62% of those arrested for marijuana possession were non-white, and more than 40% were under 20 years old.
	But some leaders in the black community, especially religious leaders, opposed that endorsement.
	I mean, I think tobacco is proven to kill you.
	And yet, they're not putting kids in jail for having a pack of cigarettes.
	I mean, come on, let's get real in America.
	If that's the case, then why don't we legalize crack cocaine?
	Why don't we legalize burglary?
	It's a smokescreen.
	Some church leaders are calling for the state NAACP president to resign.
	And even those who support legalizing marijuana are questioning why the NAACP is getting involved.
	Get ready to pay more to...
	Okay, here's an interesting thing.
	That minister comes out and says, why don't we legalize crack cocaine, so let's make the argument stupid.
	And burglary.
	Burglary, yeah.
	Or burglary, right, which is even dumber, which is a specious argument.
	In fact, it's not even very well argued.
	But then he says it's a smokescreen.
	It's a smokescreen for what?
	Well, yeah.
	Pot creates a smokescreen.
	Yeah, there'll be a lot of smoke involved, but it's a smokescreen for what?
	For what?
	I don't know.
	It was not in my pre-packaged report.
	It was not in my report, John.
	I don't know.
	I just don't know.
	Anyway.
	We saved another life, John.
	Good.
	We have actually a couple of letters that came in we should probably discuss.
	Let me do the life-saving note.
	I'm so proud of this.
	I just have to read most of it because it's just one of these stories.
	A couple weeks ago you guys read my letter I sent you about starting Chantix.
	Chantix.
	This is the cigarette smoking drug on no agenda.
	I want to give you guys an update.
	Last Friday I was at the end of my second week of Chantix.
	I went out drinking with some friends that night.
	This is a great story by the way.
	But didn't drink as much as I usually do.
	I was out for about three hours.
	Last thing I remember, I left the bar near my house and was walking home.
	Next thing I know, I'm in front of a random house and some cops arrive asking me what the hell I was doing.
	I tell them I had no idea what I was doing, how I even got here.
	Then the cops ask me, where are your shoes?
	I look down and notice my shoes were not on me.
	The cop finds my shoes, but not my belt that had gone missing.
	They ask me where my car is.
	I tell him I have no clue.
	Last thing I remember was I was walking home.
	The cop told me that he's a pretty chill cop.
	I'm lucky for not getting drunk, for getting a drunk in public arrest.
	He gives me a ride home.
	I miss going to work the next day.
	I noticed a few days before this ordeal that I'd been misplacing my keys, my wallet, my gym card, my work badge.
	In short, he was going nuts over the shantic stuff, which is a lethal drug.
	I quit taking Chantix that night when I remembered what you guys said about the chances of quitting smoking on Chantix.
	It was about 22% or something effective versus a placebo sugar pill, which is 13% effective.
	Now, we, of course, pulled the commercials apart specifically for this reason.
	So instead of Chantix, I take a sugar cube twice a day as a placebo.
	It's working even better than the Chantix.
	I have not cheated or smoked a single puff of a cigarette in five days.
	I no longer have vivid dreams.
	No more insomnia.
	No more nausea.
	In fact, I feel great and my mind is more clear than I was when I was on that crappy pill.
	And he's not winding up hammered in front of random houses with no shoes on.
	Yeah.
	And then, disturbingly, on another note, he told a co-worker about what had happened to him, and he said, you know, I'm really lucky.
	His co-worker said, you're lucky you didn't get a DUI. He said, in his DUI class, there are about five people who got a DUI even though they were not driving.
	One got a DUI. This is driving under influence.
	Inside, Carl's Jr.
	Well, you should get arrested for that no matter what.
	Because he was intoxicated, they asked him where his car was.
	He said outside.
	They checked his pocket, found car keys in his pockets, and charged him with DUI because he was intending to drive.
	It's like a thought crime.
	Yeah, I found this distressing.
	It's nuts!
	I believe it.
	I believe some stuff like this happens.
	But, I mean, that's clearly...
	And by the way, with the economy in the tank like this, more and more of this sort of thing is going to happen because it brings revenues in.
	Now, that brings us to our second email, which I think...
	This is the tale of a deadbeat dad.
	Do you want to summarize this?
	Well, this guy got thrown in jail.
	He's actually out of work, and him and his wife came...
	He's sick.
	He's been battling cancer.
	Yeah, right.
	I'm sorry.
	He's been battling cancer, and so he's got a whole series of problems.
	And his wife is behind him on this, and he can't...
	He has to catch up to his child support.
	Actually...
	His wife is like, you know, hey, I understand, but it's an automatic thing because the...
	It's got nothing to do with his wife.
	Right, the courts, you know, the system takes your money.
	Let me read some of this.
	However, the county collects the child support from me and gives it to hers, so they're aware of how...
	Behind I am.
	Every two to three months, a warrant is issued.
	Two sheriffs show up at the door and take me in front of a judge who also knows the situation, points out how ridiculous it is, and lets me go, since my being behind is kind of out of control.
	Apparently, more recently, I guess he ended up on a Friday, late Friday afternoon, there was a knock at the door.
	Two sheriffs were there, and they took me in.
	Here's the problem.
	Since I was late in the day, it was late in the day, I was going to have to spend the weekend in the county prison until the courts opened on Monday, a brand-new level of hell.
	I'd gotten used to the routine arrest, but spending a weekend in prison was a new experience.
	I had no idea what prisoners experienced.
	Some observations I made in the process, other than me, everyone I saw there was in prison for minor charges, mostly pot dealing or smoking.
	One person was locked up over an open container violation.
	It must be nice to know that there's no crime to worry about over here.
	I do know the state pays the county based on prison occupancy.
	After hearing some of the bail stories, I'm convinced that the system is set up to make sure that people are locked away to increase county income.
	$10,000 bail for an open container violation is out of line, in my opinion.
	This is in New York, by the way.
	New York State.
	which is broke.
	And then they wanted to vaccinate him.
	They tried to give him vaccinations for hepatitis A, hepatitis B, flu, pneumonia vaccines.
	He explained that he was under doctor's care.
	The guy's battling cancer.
	So he had to really fight that off.
	And he did all sorts of blood and urine tests.
	They tested him.
	I'm sure they get money for this as well.
	They get the guy in there.
	If he takes one of these shots, they get paid.
	They have to test him for this and that.
	They get paid.
	They got him in there.
	They get paid.
	This is a crock of crap going on here.
	And then he couldn't pee.
	He says he has a shy bladder.
	It's hard, he says, when you've got a 300-pound guy staring at your penis.
	And then he said, I made one big mistake.
	They asked me how my mental state was while I was in medical.
	And he said, well, to be honest, my first time in prison, I'm a little nervous.
	This kicked off a number of alarms.
	First off, they insisted on getting me on Ativan.
	I don't know what that is, but I'm sure it's...
	The Ativan's one of these anti-nervous pills.
	Made me see a mental health professional since they were concerned I might kill myself.
	And they offered me an Ativan script when I was leaving to keep me docile.
	So...
	He says it's a report straight from the slammer.
	And you're right, John, particularly in the hard times now with the economic crisis, the jails have to fill them up.
	Bring them in, fill them up.
	Doesn't matter what you're doing.
	They've got to throw you in jail so we can make some money.
	And they're making money on all fronts, on the drugs they give you, on the vaccines they give you, on locking you up.
	I can't believe over a weekend somebody wants to give them a shot, flu shot.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, wow.
	So anyway, it looks like they're starting to destroy some of those flu shots.
	Nobody's using them.
	Well, no.
	What I read is they're folding it into the seasonal flu shot, both in Gitmo Nation East and West.
	This is what I'm reading.
	Yeah, well, I was hearing about the old ones, those straight ones, the ones that just have the H1N1 in it, are getting tossed.
	Well, it says here, swine flu jabs to be repackaged as seasonal flu jabs, according to the Financial Times.
	Well, I think there's a lot of action.
	There's somebody also investigating.
	I think one of the states is investigating the whole scam, saying that we didn't write the right contracts.
	Remember, this was in Canada.
	There's a lot of action going on.
	We had to revisit the topic, apparently.
	Well, the BBC reports...
	That the swine flu vaccine contracts lacked get-out clauses.
	Yeah, duh.
	So, 1.2 billion.
	Yeah, I think it was great.
	They lost a billion dollars.
	Pounds.
	1.2 billion pounds.
	1.5 billion dollars down the drain.
	Yeah.
	Because of that idiot that runs the World Health Organization, that woman.
	Yeah.
	Miss Swan.
	Chon, whatever.
	You've got a couple more clips.
	Anything you want to play?
	Well, let's see what I have.
	I have something funny, which was during the Petraeus confirmation hearing, Chairman Levin or Levine, I guess?
	Levine, yeah, Levine.
	Words matter, I would say.
	So listen to his 26 seconds of his opening statement.
	We've already seen a positive effect of setting the July 2011 date.
	To begin reduction of our troops, Lieutenant General Caldwell, who commands our training efforts in Afghanistan, told us that when General Obama announced the date...
	There you go.
	General Obama.
	General Obama.
	And no one bats an eye. - Right.
	General Obama.
	Well, he should wear all the medals.
	Yeah, he should have a cool uniform.
	Absolutely.
	Under the ACTA, now that Joe Biden came out and said this is like a smash and grab, well, finally, the MPAA and what is the Record Association?
	R-I-A-A. R-A-A-A. And everyone, they've got the cops, the federales working for them now, so Homeland Security went out and busted up a whole bunch of websites that were hosting, Homeland Security, that were hosting movies illegally.
	And they did a whole press announcement, and Disney was on stage with Homeland Security.
	Yeah, we did a great job!
	They've always wanted this to happen.
	And then there was a little local store in San Diego, and this is from one of our producers down south in San Diego who reported this.
	He said, this is impossible.
	There was a little Asian store who was suspected of selling counterfeit designer items, was raided by police.
	It's in a strip mall.
	And the police claim that they pulled out a million dollars worth of illegal goods.
	Yeah, I saw this.
	Gucci, Juicy Couture, Chanel, Nike, Louis Vuitton.
	Yeah, I mean, if they were real and they were store price, I can see it was a million bucks.
	But these are just, you know, the so-called knockoffs.
	Yeah, cheap crap.
	But it's fun.
	We're throwing people in jail for smoking pot, and we're busting up two Asian elderly people.
	Yeah, well, this is going to get worse.
	Oh, you've got to get out of here, John.
	I know you've got to boogie, right?
	Yeah, I've got to take off.
	Yeah, then let me just say one thing.
	Women.
	Ladies, are you...
	I'm reading from scienceblogs.com.
	Are you independent, stubborn, or mildly aggressive in your social interactions?
	Are you perhaps less interested in having sex with men than your neighborhood nymphomaniac?
	Are you possibly even lesbian or bisexual?
	Worst of all, are you pursuing a career in a masculine profession and possibly deferring pregnancy and child ring to a later date or indefinitely?
	You may have a disease...
	Yes, it's congenital adrenal hyperplasia, better known as CAH. And it's a real disease.
	And we're coming up with a vaccine for it.
	The American Academy of Pediatrics has confirmed CAH is an actual disease.
	You are masculinized and you're in trouble.
	Oh, brother.
	Yeah.
	Please read the entire report in the show notes at noagendashow.com because you're just in trouble.
	We have to get you a shot pretty soon.
	Some hormones.
	Because lesbians is an illness now.
	I had to leave on a funny note at least.
	Yeah, I think that's more depressing than the rest of this stuff.
	Alright, show on Sunday as normale?
	Yeah.
	Okay, good.
	Care to tell where you're going?
	Are you flying?
	No, I'm taking the train, so I have to leave three days early.
	Normally I would take the plane, I'd be up there in a couple hours, but it's going to take me three days to get there.
	But I prefer it because I don't want to eat rat turds in the plane's meals.
	Oh, by the way, they don't serve meals on the plane, so I don't know what that's all about.
	Ah, yes.
	It's fun to live in Gitmo Nation.
	Coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower Crackpots Command Center in the People's Republic of Southern California in Gitmo Nation West.
	In the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
	And in the northern part of the state where Silicon Valley doesn't exist, but the sun does, I'm John C. Dvorak.
	And the government doesn't own the sun yet.
	We'll talk to you again on Sunday, everybody, for early morning service right here on No Agenda.

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