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May 23, 2010 - No Agenda
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202: Trains To FEMA
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Dissemble, dissemble, dissemble, dissemble.
Adam Couric, John C. Dvorak.
It's May 23rd, 2010.
Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 202.
This is no agenda.
Preparing for the big one.
And coming to you from the Hilltop Watchtower, Crackpot Command Center, Gitmo Nation West, in the People's Republic of Southern California, in the morning, I'm Adam Curry.
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we now will pronounce it Brisbane and Melbourne, I'm John C. Dvorak.
In the morning.
In the morning to you, sir.
So I got a note from somebody.
Only one?
I don't get that much mail.
But I'm not encouraging it.
So they sent me to...
There's a site, Forvo.
Have you ever seen it?
The site that does all these pronunciations so you can pronounce anything pretty much.
What's it called?
It's F-R-O-V-O, I think.
Forvo.
Forvo.
Yeah, Forvo.com.
And then they have people that pronounce different words.
Oh, yeah.
I have seen that, yeah.
You need to learn how to pronounce Melbourne and Brisbane.
It's not Melbourne?
It's not Melbourne.
Not Melbourne?
Well, the problem with Brisbane is that we have a city nearby down the street called Brisbane, which confuses things.
Well, it's kind of like Houston and Houston.
I think we've been through that before.
Right.
So we had an earthquake.
A couple of them.
Well, in Baja again.
Remember we were supposed to have a 7.2?
Oh, right.
The predictor said that, yeah.
Right.
So we got like a 5.4.
Disappointment!
Did you even notice it?
No, not at all.
No.
And by the way, you know, when I hear 7.2, I'm not impressed because it's not like they're using the Richter scale anymore.
7.2 is not how it used to be.
Well, it's just they needed a high number because all these threes and fours weren't exciting enough.
Well, I'm finding it disturbing that they've changed the scale and really didn't tell anybody.
Well, they did, but...
Oh, yeah.
We weren't paying attention.
They told who?
Exactly.
So, if people who are listening to this on the podcast missed the fantastic Jeff Smith In The Morning song, which will be playing at the end of the show, and I encourage everyone to go to the show notes, noagendashow.com, and purchase this to support Sir Jeff, who has been supporting this show for quite a while.
It's a great song.
We played it at the end, right?
Yeah, yeah.
What I love about Jeff is he knows when to stop.
It's like two minutes and 45 seconds.
It's a hit.
It's a 45.
Back in the good old days, like the Beatles used to do that.
You know, two minutes, 45 seconds.
Boom, next record.
And that's a long song.
There was a number of hits from Creedence Clearwater that were 155.
Yeah.
Yeah, that was when we could jam 18 songs into an hour.
We also had only one commercial set.
So it's cold down in Southern California.
Yeah, I think it dropped about 10 degrees.
Yeah, it really is.
It's quite chilly, but I've got the window open for two reasons, of course.
One, just to keep the oxygen flowing, and two, so I can hear the black helicopters.
All right, I'm sure we have lots of groovy stuff.
Maybe I should just throw this one out there.
Even though we've already kind of claimed it, I think that...
And now, back to real news.
So not only did I predict that Bret Michaels would come back to Celebrity Apprentice, tonight is the finale, the grand finale, and Bret is one of the two finalists!
Yay!
How can that be?
That's right, yes.
I say Bret Michaels for the win!
We told you...
This was so set up.
I mean, you know, you see what Trump does with his Miss USA pageant.
I mean, the guy is a genius.
And he has no scruples.
He could be better.
He'll go over anyone's illness.
Nothing holds him back.
Well, that's true.
He has no pride whatsoever.
Scruples, I think, is the word.
Scruples.
He's just like, screw it.
Hey, Brad, I got a great idea.
Okay.
Come on, man.
You diabetic, come over here.
Look, here's what we're going to do.
You're going to have, like, a brain seizure.
I got this place out in Arizona.
You can hang out there.
I'll set you up with a couple of hookers.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's a blow.
We'll split the proceeds.
It'll all go to your diabetic foundation.
I'm telling you, a guy's going to win.
He's against...
Oh, who's he up against?
Halle Berry?
Boo, I'm not going to watch it anymore.
What am I thinking?
What?
There's a lost on tonight, the final lost.
Oh.
That's why he needed all this attention.
He knew he was up against Lost.
Oh yeah, he's going to have his butt handed to him.
Wow.
I mean, I haven't watched Lost for the last five years.
I watched it when it first came out.
I know.
But I think I'll watch it tonight.
I watched the first...
The first season, I followed on iTunes, and I don't know, and then you miss one or two, and I was like, oop, okay.
Then you just, you can never get back into it.
No, because it was too weird.
Yeah.
There was new people, there were strange things going on, there's a sub-base or something, aliens, you know, people living in a volcano.
I mean, I don't know.
And this is from me.
I don't even want to follow it.
I mean, What does that say?
All this stuff is hitting all my buttons with secret symbols and dharma.
I should be loving it.
Do we have any support for this program?
Not much.
We've got to get our people back on board.
We've got two producers.
Let me get the spreadsheet up.
One is John Catalano, House Springs, Maryland.
Who got in as the executive producer for $200.
So all the people, their timing is off.
But I also have to add one other guy, which came in as a check.
He actually should be in the Deuce Club, but since we overlooked him completely, he's going for a knighthood anyway.
Another $200 comes from A.J. Reistad.
That's A-J-R-Y-S-T-A-D. It doesn't say where he's from.
Hold on a second.
Now, is this going to be an executive producer?
Yeah, just put them...
These will be the two executive producers.
No associates.
So, hold on.
I have John Catalano.
And...
What was the guy with the check?
A.J. Reistad.
How do you spell that?
R-Y... Whoops.
S-T-A-D. Okay, so...
Well, this really blows...
Yeah, I know.
Our listeners have let us down.
I feel severely let...
I know I'm not supposed to be in a bad mood when this happens.
But you always go into a...
Yeah, this is like, what?
This is, by the way, we can anticipate more of the same during the summer because the summer things just dry up.
People aren't listening.
They're not going to work.
I don't know.
And I think the unemployment numbers didn't help.
No.
Well, then let me promote a few PR, aspiring PR associates.
First of all, dude, I really, I, mea culpa, I suck.
Patrick Wilson from Weezer sent me a note.
Oh, by the way, hold on a second.
I do have a correction.
It's House Springs, Missouri.
It's not Missouri?
Missouri.
What did I say?
Missouri.
Maryland.
I said Maryland.
It's Missouri.
Got it.
And it is pronounced Brisbane.
Thanks.
Patrick Wilson says, Yo, dude, it's Patrick Wilson, not Wilcox, and I am a founding member and vice president, not a touring member of Weezer.
Well, who gave us the bad steer?
Michael Butler!
Oh, right!
Michael Butler!
You were there when he said it!
I blew the name.
That was my mistake.
We finally have a house band.
The guy is like a founding member, vice president of the Weezers.
And I totally diss him.
This is on you.
I know, I know.
So I sent him a note back.
He said, I suck.
I suck.
Please, will you ever forgive me?
No wonder we didn't get any money.
Yeah, exactly.
And then he comes back with, no worries.
Now, you know I'm screwed then, right?
Oh, yeah.
He's going to probably do a song about it.
The douchebag.
Wait, I have to...
Douchebag.
I got a douchebag myself for that one.
All the hell might help these guys out, and that's what I get, a mispronunciation and bullcrap.
Mike Snyder, Kilo, November 8, Juliet, says in the morning, Adam, I'm an amateur radio operator.
I suspect there are several hams who listen to No Agenda.
I posted an idea I had for the No Agenda Amateur Radio Initiative on the No Agenda forums, and I think this is a great idea.
Because when the grid comes down, these guys are still going to be around.
And he has all these crazy ham radio PR ideas, such as include no agenda links in APR status message packets.
Ooh.
I don't know what APR status message packets are, but I can...
It's got something to do with their packet radio stuff.
Yeah, because that's like digital, right?
And this is not like just guys sitting in a shack somewhere.
Oh, yeah, this has changed over the years.
They're doing all kinds of wild stuff.
Yeah, it's real high.
I mean, I know they have...
I kind of dropped off the scene when they were doing slow scan TV, and that was already quite cool.
Use no-agenda avatars and links on related websites.
Conduct no-agenda nets on UHF, VHF, HF. I love it.
I don't know what it means, but I love it.
I've got to get me one of them ham radios to listen to.
Well, it's easier to get a license nowadays if you just want to do...
I think if you just want to do VHF stuff...
You don't need to learn Morse code anymore?
I think the Morse code thing's been dropped.
These guys can correct me if I'm wrong.
And I'd like to start an in-the-morning or similar phrase meme during communications to arouse others' curiosity.
I think that's a great idea.
CQDX! CQDX in the morning!
And this is the best.
CW operators...
So, you know, you have the Roger beep at the end when they end their transmission.
He says they need to end it with, which is Morse for ITM, in the morning.
Oh, cool.
So we should just change the universal Roger beep.
How nerdy can we get?
I'm loving it.
And then a quick shout out to Jeff, who is the guy who made the in the morning tea.
And he put up another blend which was taken down from the Adagio Tea website.
It was called a Hit Him in the Mouth Tea.
The subtitle was, This tea packs a double punch.
The refreshing crisp notes of lemongrass and sweet tartness of strawberries will make your head explode.
And I thought that was fine until I saw the label he made for it.
Did you see this label?
No.
I'm not sure.
What does the label look like?
Hold on.
I'll send it to you real quick.
I'll post it in the chat room, too.
Yeah, no wonder they took it down.
It's like two sheriffs in full combat gear pointing guns.
Did you see it in the sky?
Two to the head tee.
Two to the head tee, exactly.
And then there's a new website.
Isn't that funny?
That's quite funny, actually.
I think it's funny, too, but they took it down.
Alan Chow, I think you pronounce it, has created a new website, noagendasurvey.com, which I'm a little torn about.
He says, I'd like to help deconstruct the no agenda audience demographics.
Now, I don't like surveys, personally.
uh Although he has it set up in a pretty fair manner.
It goes through Google Spreadsheets.
You can set up a survey option there, and I think everyone can see the results.
He asks a lot of interesting questions like, are you a crackpot?
Are you a buzzkill?
Stuff like that.
I'm a little hesitant to promote an initiative like that.
Well, I don't have a problem with it.
I mean, I think as long as everyone knows that these things are self-selecting and skew, seriously skew in one direction or another, I think it's just an amusement.
They're fine.
True.
And of course, without a doubt, our PR associate today is Sir Jeff Smith, who came out with the In the Morning song, which will play in its entirety at the end of the show.
And of course, thanks to John Catalano and A.J. Rizstat.
You are the executive producers of No Agenda 202.
Put that shit on your resume.
Our formula is this.
We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
No! No!
No! No! No! No!
Oh, yeah.
World.
Oh, yeah.
Come on, John.
With me now.
Shut up, slave.
All right.
We now return to the show.
The show.
By the way, you were talking about celebrity news or whatever it was.
Oh, here we go.
And now, back to real news.
I didn't make these clips, but this one I'm going to mention is part of a theme I think I ran into today, which is new usages besides the Richter scale disappearing.
And I didn't notice this before, and I do watch these shows where they come up with these little monikers for these celebrities to give them some sort of a...
Oh, like Bombshell Michelle?
Yeah, well, this one, the shorter ones, I'm thinking, more like what they're calling Lindsay Lohan now.
Well, they were calling her Lilo.
Yeah, that didn't work.
No, because it sounded dumb.
Yeah, so the entertainment today is pushing LL. LL Cool J is getting pissed off and polishing up his nine.
But I watched it.
I didn't record it.
I could have brought a clip to prove it.
Oh, gee.
That's a bummer.
I'm so upset.
LLLLLLL. You should know she's apparently told the courts to screw themselves and she's like partying.
That was like on Larry King.
It's like, what?
It was unbelievable.
This was the news on Friday.
What is going on with the world?
I know, it's crazy.
I mean, who cares?
And by the way, the thing about the, you know, now she's accusing her dad of stealing her passport, supposedly, and it's just become this ridiculous soap opera.
But, you know, the woman was due in court for some short hearing and claimed she lost her passport so she couldn't leave the country, although that's not true.
You can get out.
Yeah.
Believe me.
But she didn't attempt anything to try to get out of France, and so the judge got irked about this.
But this is like, so what?
I mean, this has got to go on all the time.
I mean, I don't know.
Well, clearly there's something going on that we're missing.
Don't look over here.
Nothing to see here.
Ooh, look at that!
I think I have a couple of examples.
By the way, John, I do want to say that the Times Online reported on something that you brought to the show Six, seven weeks ago, I think, Naomi Campbell is now going to have to testify in the International Tribunal in The Hague About receiving the blood diamond from, yeah, from, who was it, from the Liberian president?
What's his name again?
The ex-guy.
Yeah, yeah.
What's his name?
Taylor.
Taylor.
She'll have to testify under oath at the International Criminal Court.
And you actually brought this as real news like six weeks ago.
And now she's really going to have to stand there.
And we know that she said, no, no, go away.
Turn up sleeve.
And now she's going to have to testify if she really received a blood diamond or not.
And who was it?
Mia Farrow?
They should drag that scrawny bitch in front of the criminal.
In The Hague!
The International Criminal Court!
What makes her happy?
Is she going to go?
Because why does she have to?
She has to go!
What do you mean?
You're being subpoenaed.
I guess you've got to go.
You don't have to go.
It's not...
Like Lindsay Lohan.
I don't have a patent.
Yeah, but she's Lizzie Lohan's subject.
She has to go to America.
She's a United States citizen.
She's got responsibilities.
There's no responsibility to this criminal court, this kangaroo court that they set up by Americans.
They have to go to it.
Screw you.
Now, I know what would happen, though.
This is what they're going to do.
I guarantee it.
Naomi can't, although she's British, so I guess she does have to go.
But let's just say an American is subpoenaed to go in front of this crazy court.
And they don't go.
America doesn't recognize it, right?
We don't recognize that.
No, we don't recognize it.
But we don't go, and then the next time you're vacationing in Paris, or you just happen to be visiting...
Pick you up.
They happen to be on the catwalk.
And they throw you in the slammer.
Awesome.
So this is a story that President Taylor had received diamonds from Sierra Leone in mayonnaise jars.
And just because he liked Naomi, for no other reason than that, he apparently, allegedly gave her one, and she showed it...
No, she told Mia Farrow, and Mia Farrow forgot to ask to see it.
Yeah, that was the dubious part of the story.
That was the crazy one.
It's like, what woman is going to not want to see it?
Show me that diamond!
Show me that rock, baby!
Alright, so...
Pulling apart the media, and this is something that one of our producers, I guess it's Micah?
Is that how you think it would be?
Micah Phillips, I think?
Yeah, Micah Phillips.
So Micah brought this to our attention, and I found out something even more ominous after researching it and putting the clips together.
Our president, Obama, for those of you living in Gitmo Nation, This is the Army Academy, is it not?
Yeah, this is the Army Academy in West Point.
By the way, Obama says this is the world's greatest university.
What is he going to say to the people in Minneapolis?
No, no, no.
He said it's the best university, not the greatest.
He said it is the best, like Consumer Reports wrote that down somewhere.
Yeah.
Yeah, I heard that too.
I watched the whole speech, which is...
I couldn't stand it.
Well, there's a couple of reasons, because one, I was already interested in the speech.
That's the reason I didn't watch.
I already heard it.
No, no.
I was interested, because I picked up somewhere that he was proposing a new world order, and we need new unsurpassed collaboration, and so there were some crackpot...
I'm a freelance videographer and today's gig was filming the West Point graduation ceremony.
Now I'm sure both of you have an interesting take on Obama's speech.
Well, yeah, it was boring.
But me being there has allowed me to share with you a very interesting example of very subtle media manipulation.
And Micah doesn't know how unsubtle it really was.
During the speech, Obama made mention of the fact that he plans on ending the war in Iraq and bringing the troops home this summer immediately after he mentions plans on ramping up Afghanistan.
That's another story.
As soon as he said, troops home this summer, the crowd went nuts.
I mean, they went apeshit.
They cheered for a good solid 20 seconds.
Cut to me getting home doing a vanity search to see if I wound up in any pictures online, which is typical for videographers.
I found this Fox News article...
And see that the audio had been altered to remove the cheering.
And I discovered something else, actually.
But first, there's three versions of this clip.
I had already pulled the clip from C-SPAN. And then I pulled it from whitehouse.gov.
And then I pulled the clip that Mike is referring to in Fox News.
So first, let's listen to the relevant piece on C-SPAN. Time, if you will, everyone who's listening live at NoAgendaStream.com and in the chatroom, NoAgendaChat, can time it with me.
And listen to the audio, because of course, it's not just pictures that get, well, whether purposely manipulated or not, you can use different sounds to give different impressions.
Remember Micah says, everyone went apeshit, and he was there, and I'm presuming he's telling the truth.
So here's the C-SPAN version of the relevant piece of the speech.
A lesser army might have seen its spirit broken, but the American military is more resilient than that.
Our troops adapted, they persisted, they partnered with coalitions and Iraqi counterparts, and through their competence and creativity and courage, we are poised to end our combat mission in Iraq this summer.
Even as we transition to an agreement...
Okay, so you can kind of hear way in the background.
You can hear the crowd screaming.
But basically, the crowd mics aren't really on, if there were any mics.
And I counted about 12 seconds of a smattering of applause.
Yeah, it sounds like a sound effect applause.
You know, they're kind of like, okay, yeah, whatever.
They're kind of that kind of applause.
It's like lukewarm is the word.
So now the version as posted on whitehouse.gov.
This time of war began in Afghanistan.
A place that may seem as far away from this peaceful bend in the Hudson River as anywhere on Earth.
The war began only because our own cities and civilians were attacked.
And please time the applause again.
And it continues only because that plotting persists to this day.
For many years, our focus was on Iraq.
Year after year, our troops faced a set of challenges there that were as daunting as they were complex.
Now, you already hear a different microphone.
You hear he sounds a little bit nasal through this particular mic.
A lesser army might have seen its spirit broken.
But the American military is more resilient than that.
Our troops adapted.
They persisted.
They partnered with coalitions and Iraqi counterparts, and through their competence and creativity and courage, we are poised to end our combat mission in Iraq this summer.
Sounds a little different, right?
A little bit.
Okay.
Even as we transition...
Okay, now, Fox News.
And so this is video and you can get the link in the show notes.
Now also time the amount of time between the president saying this summer and him starting the next piece of the speech.
It began only because our own cities and civilians were attacked by violent extremists who plotted from a distant place.
And it continues only because that plotting persists to this day.
And John, I want you to pay special attention to this.
See if you pick up what I picked up on.
Year after year, our troops faced a set of challenges there that were as daunting as they were complex.
A lesser army might have seen its spirit broken, but the American military is more resilient than that.
Our troops adapted, they persisted, they partnered with coalitions and Iraqi counterparts, and through their competence and creativity and courage, we are poised to end Our combat mission in Iraq this summer.
The clip has not ended.
It's just completely silent right now.
Nothing.
And the president's just looking around.
Our campaign to disrupt, dismantle, and to defeat al-Qaeda is part of an international effort that is necessary.
So, first of all...
They removed the applause entirely after he says this summer.
They didn't just remove the applause.
They cut the sound and the president's just looking around.
I looked at this video probably 50 times.
And I was like, why is...
Because I was timing it.
Why is that only 10 seconds?
They actually edited the video...
And I can't even see the edit, John.
It could be a whole different speech for all I know.
He immediately launches into this whole thing about Afghanistan.
They actually changed the speech, and it's undetectable in the video.
Listen to what he comes back with in the original.
Here's the original from the WhiteHouse.gov.
Even as we transition to an Iraqi lead...
So he's like, ah, transition to an Iraqi lead, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Now listen to the Fox News version.
A combat mission in Iraq this summer.
So they go silent, and you cannot see an edit at all.
But is he going to talk about Iraq when he comes back?
No.
Here it comes.
Our campaign to disrupt, dismantle, and to defeat al-Qaeda is part of an international effort that is necessary and just.
So they basically...
This is a different kind of war.
Yeah.
So they rewrote the speech, essentially, and made it look like it was a continuation, made it look like he bombed.
He got no applause whatsoever.
But the thing, you know, he has a certain wooden quality that we've seen before that makes it probably easy to do this sort of edit.
John, I looked at this video 50 times.
You cannot see the edit.
There is no edit.
I don't understand.
It's like a whole different speech.
I mean, you can look, you can look, you can go to the show notes, you can look at this, look at it as many times as you want, you will not see an edit.
Yet there's a whole different piece to this speech.
I don't get it.
He just, apparently you've got an editor over at Fox who's really good.
Yeah, but I mean, that is, that is, and he goes into this, straight into the Afghanistan rap and about the insurgents and we gotta go kick their ass, America, fuck yeah, brr, brr, brr.
And I just, I'm like, what?
It is undetectable.
And I mean, I saw the fake planes in the World Trade Tower.
I mean, I saw that video immediately and pegged it.
But this?
This is good.
So either it's a whole different speech, because it's cropped, so you can't see an audience, you can't see anyone standing to the left or the right of them, or, I don't know.
I mean, it is undetectable.
And people in the audience, producers, go look at this, and you tell me if you can see the edit.
I cannot find it.
It really, really, really blew me away.
Well, obviously somebody's got some good gear.
They have to do an overlay to get his face in exactly the right spot.
I'm going to paste it in the chat room here.
The edit could come, he could be, you know, he could be, I don't know, they could be editing while he's talking.
It might be like he looks like he's starting the second.
Well, I will say on the C-SPAN version, they cut to the cadets kind of clapping, not going apeshit, by the way.
There's a small cutaway of the cadets.
During the original 12 seconds.
And this is just him.
He's on stage and he's moving his head.
He's turning from left to right.
And you know there's supposed to be applause.
It looks very similar to the original one that C-SPAN has.
Or that the White House...
It's the same as the White House.
I'm sorry.
C-SPAN is the one that cuts away.
I'm pretty good at this stuff.
I can see edits.
I see crappy edits all the time.
I don't see this one.
And he goes into a completely different part of it.
I couldn't even find that piece in the original speech.
It was either before or further along.
It might have been...
Well, it's only 30 minutes, so...
Anyway.
I was just blown away.
I want to thank Micah for pointing that out.
Maybe that was the speech given by the other Obama.
You caught me off guard.
I don't know.
I don't know.
But it warrants investigation and the fact that there's only 10 seconds.
So that means that either there's an edit or it was a different speech.
Because there's 12 seconds on the original and 10 seconds on this Fox version.
And it's just like, what?
How did they do that?
Anyway, if that guy is listening, you're hired.
You are so working for us.
That was awesome.
It is one of the most awesome edits.
Yeah, the guy will never be, you know, you'd have to be working at Fox and nose around to find out who it was.
Well, somebody may come up with it, but regardless, I mean, I know after the show you'll look at it, John, and you'll look at it just as many times as I did.
You'd be like, I can't see an edit, so I'm dumbfounded.
First of all, by the fact they just cut off the audio.
It's like, oh, make him look like he sucked.
That's really low.
And then let's go straight into Afghanistan and we're going to go kick their ass.
You know, the way you're supposed to do it, if you don't like it and you don't like the audience applauding, You know, you'd have them say the line, and then you'd do a fade or a cutaway or something, and you'd tighten up the speech.
Yeah, exactly.
You'd cut the piece out.
Exactly.
And you wouldn't just leave a bunch of dead air.
But this is what doesn't make sense.
The way they just cut the audio, I mean, it's so apparent.
I mean, you hear it, and everything goes dead.
I mean, they just literally chopped it out, so not even lowered the volume or anything.
Which also makes them look like an ear.
I think I've talked about this before.
I don't want to hear the horn, but...
When I was doing Silicon Spin and some other stuff at ZDTV, it became Tech TV, they took us down to Las Vegas and they put us in front of this huge audience.
And we were chatting and every once in a while you'd say something extremely funny.
And the audience would go nuts.
The audience would go nuts.
And these idiots, they never mic the audience.
Yeah, you heard like...
You hear nothing, and so if you watch the thing being broadcast, it would be like you'd say something that was funny, got no response, but because you were waiting for the audience laughter to stop, so you could tie them back into the discussion, instead of that, you just saw the group of us sitting up there with blank stares.
Not talking for no good reason.
It makes you look like an idiot.
That's the only reason you do that.
Dvorak's bombing.
Yeah, you make him look like an idiot, but because the sound edit was so poor, that's why I can't believe that the video edit was so awesome.
That's what doesn't make sense.
To get that video edit, they may have had to kill the sound.
Well, yeah, because he was still in the final finale of the applause when he started talking about a second issue, and you just can't cut to something completely different, so it would sound like there's applause and then nothing.
I mean, I'm not saying that's the reason they did it.
Obviously, they wouldn't have left it so much dead air unless they were trying to humiliate him.
It was just an unfair...
I mean, all these networks are just lopsided.
It's ridiculous.
I'm surprised.
You know, no wonder people listen to our show and they say, I don't even watch the Real News anymore.
You know, and I was trying to find a clip of Don Lemon yesterday.
I did it again, John.
I'm kicking myself in the arse so hard.
I flipped on CNN. I would just flip through the channels.
I land on CNN. Don Lemon.
Don Lemon, everybody.
Don Lemon on the weekend here.
CNN. And I think he has the governor on for Louisiana.
I don't know who he had, like some official.
Jindal?
No, it wasn't Jindal.
I can't remember.
And he's like, well, no, I hear that they're going to have to burn the marshes down there.
It's like, oh, this is really horrible.
It's an epic proportion, huge magnitude.
And this, I think it was the guy, I don't know if it was Jindal, he says, well this is exactly the type of disinformation that people like you spread, which is ridiculous.
We burn marshes every single year.
And Lemon gets all defensive.
He's like, AP says, AP says, AP, AP says that this is incorrect.
And then the guy says, yeah, this is like no big deal.
I'm not saying that we don't have a problem, but burning of the marshes is something that is very typical.
We do it all the time.
We do it every single year.
And then Lemon is like, so wait a minute.
So what exactly did I say that was wrong?
And I couldn't.
I was like, please.
Because I did it on the wrong cable box, the one that doesn't record.
And I'm hoping.
Well, stop it.
Will you do this every week?
I know.
I'm a douche.
Yeah.
Douchebag!
And I'm desperately trying to find the clip because I wanted to point out...
You can get a TiVo and hook it up to that second one.
I know, I know.
I can just get another DVR box.
Because I wanted to point out, I just wanted to say...
Because all the news networks are running this live video of the deep water break.
And I just want people to think logically for a moment.
This is a BP video.
It's on the BP website.
I've actually linked to it in the show notes.
Now, if BP wanted to—if they were really upset and wanted to downplay and didn't want to put their drilling rights at risk, etc., if they were really good guys and they weren't, as I assert, actually trying to get all kinds of noise in the marketplace and eventually have the price of oil pop up to $100 because they can say, oh, we can't drill anymore— They wouldn't be putting a live camera down there and giving the feed to everybody.
This is so illogical.
And no one seems to understand this.
The BP is saying, oh, here it is.
Look how horrible.
Oh, look at this.
Oil is just spewing out.
Please watch our live webcam.
Does anyone not follow the logic that this is a setup?
I mean, it's like so obvious.
And all the networks are like, oh, we've got this video, exclusive live video.
Look at this.
It's just spewing out.
Well, of course, they want you to see that.
That's the whole point.
Because, you know, inventory is already...
Everyone's running out of oil now.
So now the price of oil is going to go up to $100.
And all these guys have got oil sitting in tanks that they paid $40 for.
And they're going to sell it for $100.
Right?
It's so easy.
More power to them.
Now we have another possible blowout scenario in the North Sea.
Norwegian oil company Statoil has evacuated Most of the employees, except a few who will stay behind and apparently get blown to pieces, from one of their deep-sea rigs.
North Sea isn't even that deep, and I'm not quite sure how deep it is.
But they've got a pressure build-up, and they're expecting a blowout.
So that's on the horizon.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
And now the president, because, of course, he's on board with the program and has to...
And has to propagate how horrible this all is.
And I'm not even going to play the video of him again saying that this is a spill of epic proportion, a magnitude the world has never seen before, except on a live webcam brought to you by BP. And he has put in or called for an oil spill independent commission.
And so he's nominated former Florida Governor Bob Graham Who is a Democrat.
We've got to get some work for these guys.
Well, the other guy is more interesting.
Bill Riley.
A.K.A. William K. Reilly.
And this is just too funny.
When you see this guy's resume, currently advisor to TPG Capital.
It's actually one of the largest buyout firms in the world, along with KKR. He is on the board of Canoco Phillips, Royal Caribbean International.
This guy.
He's an oil guy.
Yeah, why not?
But he was the former EPA under 41 H.W. Bush.
And since then, the guy's just gone on to become like the hugest oil shill in the world.
Bring him in.
It'll be good.
He really has our interests at heart.
He really wants to save the environment.
Oh, no, I'm sorry.
He's also on the board of the World Wildlife Fund.
Hmm.
Yeah, we know those guys are straight and narrow.
So it's just hilarious.
It really is.
I'm just like, okay.
And by the way, I still have yet to see real...
I keep seeing the same still frame, which is a beautiful shot, by the way.
I think I first saw it on Boston.com.
You see some water droplets close up of a sea that's kind of churning, and it looks like there's oil in there.
And you don't know exactly where it is.
But I don't see anything on the shores.
I don't see tons of birds washing up dead, all oil-covered.
I'm just not seeing it.
Well, that's going to happen.
It's better.
I'm so disappointed.
It just doesn't...
This is weird.
The cabal.
Yeah, well...
Not much we can do about it.
I just want to point it out.
The bigger news was the vole...
The what?
The what?
The vole, and apparently they were giving a speech.
What is the vole?
You don't know what a vole is either?
No, V-O-L-E? I always thought it was a V-O-L-E, but I think it may be V-O-L. It's a little mouse-looking thing.
Oh, the walk-by-the-president's lectern.
Yeah, and apparently the President didn't notice it.
So if you've got my Vol clip, Gibbs showing his ignorance and had to bring it up, or somebody brought it up in the press conference, and it was a big debate.
Yeah, this is the press secretary, a.k.a.
the President's mouthpiece.
I got to tell you, that's a wrap.
Where I'm from, that's a wrap.
And you can treat it as such.
What's the president's level of concern about the wrap?
You think it's a wrap?
A ball.
We've been online all day.
We've been checking it out.
It's a bull, it's a bull, it's a bull, it's a bull.
I don't know, but they keep tweeting it.
A bull is a rodent about that size.
But it's not a mole, it's a bowl.
That's the hybrid.
Make the Park Service, give us an answer.
If we didn't have so many people in the Gulf working on this, we could...
What's the president want to do?
What's that?
What's the president want to do?
That he did not get into.
Look, my guess is that it lives out there somewhere in the Rose Garden quite comfortably.
It would be a pretty good Rose Garden to live in.
I still think It's definitely not a mouse.
I've seen a mouse, and they're not nearly that big, but I'm now going to go Google bowl and see if John Holdren is around.
Thanks, guys.
John Holdren is around.
That's funny.
So there's a bunch of, you can hear some of these guys, and one guy defining vole.
This is the world press, by the way.
The tail was too short for it to be a rat.
It had to be a vole.
This is the world press.
This is the world press, and they're all kibitzing, and one of them says, are they going to capture it humanely?
You can hear that.
Yeah.
You just see him holding his hand up, waving it.
They're going to capture the vault humanely.
And this is what...
News passes for.
It sounds like a bunch of clowns.
It is.
It's a big theater.
Oh, man.
That's funny.
I like it.
So, over the weekend, I don't even have one-tenth the number of clips I could have for the show, because there was a number of really entertaining afterwards and book TV shows, which has got to be great.
You don't have to sit around on Saturday watching C-SPAN. You can...
Set up your recorder and record some of these things.
It's so much better than a talk show to have some book author who's done a lot of work on some topic to have them basically spill their guts about the real importance of what they just wrote and to let them talk for an hour.
Yeah, hold on a second.
Hold on a second.
It's what we do so you don't have to cease to end.
We just want to keep reminding people so that they support the show because this is what we do.
Yeah, we do.
We watch C-SPAN. But there's such an amazing difference between somebody discussing their book for an hour and somebody coming on Letterman and giving them five minutes or six minutes between commercials.
Right.
And so...
And one of the things that I've noticed, especially with some of these people, a lot of people have, a lot of writers, especially if they're ex-government or whatever, they have grievances.
Oh yeah, which is why they write a book, right?
Because they're pissed off.
Yeah, the grievances are in the book, but they also, you can tell what the grievances sometimes are because they bring them straight out as asides.
And so Richard Clark, who was mentioned in last week's show, who is the ex-CIA guy, is obviously still working for the agency in some way, who supposedly was sounding the alarm about 9-11, you know, back in July, before September.
Oh, yeah.
And now he's sounding the alarm on Cyber War.
And he has a new book called Cyber War.
And he's revealed a number of interesting things, but there's two anecdotes I want to play.
One is he kind of slams Hillary in an offhanded way.
It's got nothing to do with what he's talking about.
He just throws this factoid in, and he...
The way he does it, I got the feeling that Hillary was supposed to keep her mouth shut about how many nukes we actually had during the Cold War, but decided to blab it anyway.
And so he just kind of puts out this little aside that I found was highly amusing.
Which one is it?
Clark mentions Hillary.
Oh, okay.
Sorry.
Here we go.
Balance was this concept of mutual assured destruction.
Yes.
Or MAD. Essentially what MAD said was, if you attack me with nuclear weapons, even if you surprise me, I will have enough nuclear weapons left after your attack to totally destroy you.
We, the United States, came up with that theory.
We built enough nuclear weapons.
By the way, we now know how many.
Hillary Clinton announced, or the Pentagon announced last week, how many nuclear weapons the United States had at the height of the Cold War and how many we have today.
It was like 33,000 nuclear weapons at the height of the Cold War, and it's like 5,100 or something today.
Hmm.
The way he says it, announced, you know, as though she wasn't supposed to say anything.
Stupid bitch.
And then he takes on Bush with this little gem, which I thought was, this one actually made me lift my eyebrows because it was just nasty.
...understanding, or even an international treaty today, not to attack international banking, because everybody's invested in everybody else, and the whole international financial system is so interconnected that for most countries, maybe not for North Korea, maybe not for Iran, you could create agreements to say, don't attack this.
Before we invaded Iraq the last time, there was a plan to do a cyber attack on the Iraqi banking system and essentially to steal Saddam Hussein's money so that he couldn't escape the country with his money.
And President Bush said no.
He was willing to kill 100,000 people and willing to invade and bomb the country back to smithereens, but he wasn't willing to mess with the banking system.
Oh, that's great.
That was a winner.
Oh my God, what's the name of this book?
Cyber War.
We've got to put this in the No Agenda Book Club.
This is fantastic.
I want to read this.
I wonder if it's available in the iBook store.
Oh my goodness, that's great.
It didn't want to mess with the bank.
Just offhandedly, the fact that it can be done.
Yeah, I guess it can.
That's great.
That's mint.
So he also...
As part of the theme for this show, at least from my perspective, that we were discovering new words, I've got another Clark clip here that is titled New Words.
See if you can identify a word he...
By the way, the word he uses once in this clip, he uses and uses and uses.
But see if you can identify this word, because as soon as he said it, I said, I have never heard this word ever being used, ever.
I think...
Then you find the person who might provide the information.
You have to persuade them.
You have to pay them.
You have to do all of this manipulation.
And it's very risky.
And what do you get as a result?
A shoebox filled with paper.
In one hour, a hacker can get into a network and exfiltrate equivalents of the Library of Congress.
Terabytes of information out the door.
Exfiltrate.
Yeah.
I guess that's a combination of extracting and infiltrating.
Definition of exfiltrate.
Hold on.
Crap.
Exfiltration.
Wikipedia.
Military jargon for the removal of personnel or units from areas under enemy control by stealth, deception, surprise, or clandestine means.
Also a term used by civil engineers, a method for managing stormwater runoff.
In computer terminology, exfiltration refers to the unauthorized release of data from within a computer system.
This includes copying the data out through covert network channels or the copying of data to unauthorized media.
There you go.
It's a military term.
Yeah, well, it's going to catch on.
It's got a nice sound.
Yeah, we need to exfiltrate some support.
From our audience.
Yes, we do.
We need to exfiltrate something.
Let's just put that into our own vernacular.
I'd like to exfiltrate another clip from Richard Clark, John, if you have one.
Yeah, I do.
This is actually Clark describing some...
I don't know if this has ever been publicized.
I didn't know this.
Remember when the Israelis went and bombed some nuke facility in Syria?
It was a few years ago.
Vaguely.
It flew in and blew up something.
It got very little news coverage, and there wasn't a lot said about it, except for the fact that it happened.
There wasn't a lot of protests or anything.
But he actually describes a situation that I didn't know about.
Here we go.
...days the way Europe was last month because of the volcano.
What if all that happened at the same time?
And what if, in addition to attacking those civilian infrastructures, the military organization that was attacking also attacked the other military?
So they turned off the communications system of the other military.
Perhaps they turned off the air defense of the other military.
To make this clear, let me give you one example of how that could work.
Cyber War, the book, opens with a scene in Syria in 2007.
Syrian air defense operators are sitting there at night, almost midnight.
They're looking at their radar screens.
There's not much up in the air in Syria at that time of day, time of night.
Nothing going on.
All is well.
At the exact same moment that they thought the sky was empty.
The sky was filled with Israeli F-15s and F-16s that had flown through Turkey and then done a right hook and come down into Syria to blow up a secret nuclear facility in the corner of Syria up near the Turkish border.
They bombed it, destroyed it and escaped and never once did any of those big F-15s and big F-16s show up on Syria's radar screens.
And the F-15s and F-16s were designed in the 1970s and they're big and they reflect radar like a Christmas tree lighting up.
But they never appeared on the Syrian radar screens.
Because before Israel launched its planes, it launched its cyber attack.
Secretly took over the Syrian air defense network and gave the Syrian air defense operators an image that Israel wanted them to see, which was, nothing's happening.
Those explosions you hear in the background and those airplanes you hear flying overhead must be someone's TV. So cyber war has already started.
There are examples of cyber war.
Estonia was attacked a few years ago.
Its banking system, its government ministries, its phone system crashed.
People from Russia, perhaps the Russian government, but people in Russia did it.
A year later, when Russia invaded the nation of Georgia...
As their tanks were rolling across the border into Georgia, their cyber attack was simultaneously occurring, bringing down communications systems, banking, and other key functions of the Georgian government.
It's not a theory.
It's happened.
It's happened on a small scale.
It's happened somewhat primitively.
But it has happened in the real world.
And we know that a lot more can be done than has happened in cyberspace.
You know, it's so obvious to me that this may not even be true what he's saying.
Yeah, no, you don't know.
I mean, this sounds like, you know, it's all scary, you know, woo, you know, trust us, we've got to take control of your interwebs.
This is what it sounds like to me.
And the other thing is, when did Richard Clark become an expert in this field of expertise?
Well, that's very obvious.
He's a CIA, he's a spook, let's face it.
And he is, you know, this book is written by the agency.
I think there's a lot of books out there like that.
I think it's probably got a lot of good stuff in it, but again, it's information that we're being fed for a reason.
And if you listen to this whole speech of his, which was given, by the way, and here's what's funny about it.
He was given this speech.
It was a speech he gave us an hour.
Approximately an hour.
It was given at the Spy Museum.
Of all places.
Of all places.
But the hilarious part is when you're watching this, because they have posters everywhere, there's Richard Clarke at the podium, and these posters all around him with the one word, big word, spy.
And it's like the spy museum.
You walk in, there's nothing there.
It's all covert.
I'm sorry, you can't.
I mean, you just look at, there's Richard Clarke talking, and there's this word spy all around him, surrounding him.
And it's like, hello, can you get the message?
Let's don't be too subtle about this.
And so we have a spy, hello, telling this stuff.
And he's like, is this information good or bad?
I don't know.
But he did get his little digs in on Hillary and Bush and a few other people.
Well, yeah, and I think you get to do that, right?
When you're out there, you have to come across as having some kind of credibility.
So I think I just throw some shit in there.
We don't care.
As long as you propagate the message.
And this, of course, will be used to shut down the Internet.
And stop people from messing with the Ministry of Truth.
And this is probably no coincidence that the chief dude in charge of all intelligence, what's his name, Blair?
Yeah, he quit.
Yeah, he...
In a huff.
Yeah, and it's...
Now, I've been following a couple of different threads.
Dennis Blair, he is the top intelligence advisor.
I think this is the guy who was placed in between the CIA and the president.
Right, the middle man.
Who's in a no-win situation.
Yeah, like, you know, the guy's probably looking over his shoulder all the time.
You know, is it going to be a CIA bullet or something else?
And so he resigns all of a sudden.
And I'm receiving some reports that he resigned because he was so distraught over the assassination of Jerry Kane and his son Joseph.
And I think these two stories just might tie together.
Do you hear about this?
No, I'm all ears.
Well, Jerry Kane is an anti-government guy who has a website and...
He does speeches, and I don't know, he might have an infomercial, but the guy has been around for a while, and he tells you how to not pay taxes and not get arrested, essentially taking the Constitution to its extreme, which, of course, there is only one way to really interpret the Constitution, but his way is the opposite of what government really wants you to think.
And he has, I think we even, someone sent me the password to his website.
So he's one of those, you know, the IRS is illegal?
Yeah, exactly.
Well, let me just, if I look at his website for a second, hold on.
Also, he's big on how to prevent foreclosure of your home.
So here it is.
Jerry Kane and his beautiful son Joe were shot down by law enforcement Thursday, May 20th.
Well, en route back to their...
That's his website.
His home in Florida.
So a foreclosure.
He has sample letters that you can send.
He has, you know, all the interesting information.
You know, it's, I guess, really more against the banks than anything, which is probably more dangerous than being against the IRS. And he gives classes and he basically shows you how to keep your shit without the banks coming and taking it all away.
Credit bureaus, how to deal with notices.
Guy's kind of weird looking.
Well, he's very weird looking now because he's dead.
They caught him at a roadblock and they shot him and his son.
And it's very sketchy as to exactly what happened.
The reporter to have left Las Vegas this past Tuesday, where they had given one of their financial seminars, were en route to Safety Harbor, Florida, to deliver another one.
While traveling through the state of Arkansas, by the way, a fine Clinton state, they were intercepted by what the U.S. media is calling one of Obama's interrogation teams, and that's from a Reuters article, at an interstate highway roadblock where the shootout occurred, killing two police officers...
Further reports, Cain and his son were tracked down 90 minutes after the initial roadblock shootout to a Walmart parking lot where in a hail of bullets both Cain and his son were killed and another two police officers were wounded.
And when you see these guys, it makes no sense that these guys don't look very hostile, I'll tell you that.
Let's look at a couple of guys trying to make a buck by showing you how not to, you know, that you can stand up to the banks and not have everything taken away.
And so the idea here is that Blair is like, wait a minute, these guys were essentially ordered to be assassinated, which of course now the president can pretty much do.
Just say, oh, you know, you have no rights anymore under the anti-government dissident order.
Right, and he's already given the kill order on a couple of U.S. citizens.
Yeah, who don't live in America.
And so the story is that Blair quit over this.
He said, screw this.
I want no part of it.
Let me out of here.
This is nuts.
And I think there's some credibility to that.
Hmm.
Well, he had to quit for some reason.
Yeah, well, warrants more investigation, but it is...
Yeah, nothing's going to come of it.
I'm not done yet.
You spend your time watching the book club.
I'm going down to Florida.
Maybe not.
Gary Weaver.
It's the same thing.
It's the same thing.
They assassinated him.
But they didn't assassinate him.
They made him toe the line by killing his wife.
Yeah.
Next to him.
And a baby and a dog and whatever.
Yeah.
But this whole thing is weird, like the interrogation team.
Listen to this Reuters article.
This is Reuters.
Headline, Obama starts deploying interrogation teams.
The Obama administration has started using special law enforcement and intelligence teams to interrogate suspected militants in the United States.
U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder announced the formation of the, here it comes, high-value detainee interrogation group.
And gave the reins to the FBI replacing the CIA that did not have the lead role in intelligence interrogation.
So there's already a rift there between the CIA and the FBI. The program calls for the deployment of mobile interrogation teams made up of specialists from across the law enforcement and intelligence community to question important detainees whether they are in U.S. custody or in the custody of foreign government.
So mobile interrogation teams.
So this is...
Roll up.
Hey!
We're from HIG. This is what it says.
High Value Detainee Information Group.
Interrogation Group.
The HIG. It says it right there on the Royal Report.
We're the HIG pigs.
We're here to ask you some questions.
Shut up, slave!
We'll shoot you like Jake!
Didn't you see the badge?
Yeah!
Yeah!
Oh, man.
That's terrible.
It is terrible!
And how come the media says nothing about this?
And what, these two, as you like to say, jabronis, they were like high value?
Some guy giving seminars about paperwork?
High value, baby!
I've got to brighten the mood here.
All right, a couple of birthday shout-outs.
Kassif Hussain is his birthday today.
Happy birthday on behalf of the entire No Agenda crew, consisting of me, John, and Eric Rashil.
Eric Newman's birthday tomorrow, and celebrating her birthday today as well, Sir John Snyder's mother.
Happy birthday to y'all from No Agenda.
We have a couple of people in the Deuce Club.
We forgot to mention Dave Koss, who's now in.
Yeah, sorry about that, Dave.
I think we did the Mark Coylan thing.
Yeah, I remember we did the pronunciation of Mark Coylan.
Right, right, right.
But he wanted a shout-out for his business, Seed Care.
Didn't we do that?
I don't know, man.
I don't know.
We can get pretty wrapped up in these pronunciations.
We can get very distracted.
Brisbane.
That's right.
Some other donors this week.
Again, people should step up, I think.
This particular list that I'm seeing here is back to...
Two years ago.
Yeah, it's going to say 18 months ago.
John Snyder, $60.
Hussein, or Kashif Hussein, who you just mentioned, $5237.
He also, yeah, he's in Frankfurt.
Brett Merriweather gave us $51.15, and he's going to...
We'll do a promotional discount at the hayonwybooksellers.com.
It says Y, doesn't it?
H-A-Y-O-N-W-Y-E, which is an area, booksellers.com.
We'll put it in the show notes.
Hayonwy, I guess.
I think that's the way it's pronounced.
Jeffrey Glenn in Gales Ferry, Connecticut.
Of course, he's just a knighthood layaway, so he's headed to a knighthood.
John Kelly is, too.
And then I've got some checks that showed up in the mailbox.
And we need to mention these folks, including one I'm going to put off until next week or until next Thursday.
So you know who you are.
We have Carrie Washimoto, who...
Turned 55, and so he gave us 55-55.
Oh, nice.
And he's somewhere in Toronto, it looks like.
And John Henry, who's in Puerto Rico, he says he's been listening since show one, and I guess you could call me a fan.
I've contributed before, but it's been a long time, so I feel I'm sliding toward douche-dom.
Douche-dom!
Oh, wait, no, he gets deduced right now.
Yeah.
Okay.
You've been de-douched.
He's given us $51 in honor of Puerto Rico becoming the 51st state.
Puerto Rico, welcome.
Maybe that'll work.
And then $60 came in from Tom Kilbride in Waco, who sent a letter in with the words scrolled across the top in big giant print.
Screw PayPal.
Was it like newspaper print cut out?
No, no, it's actually some type font that's kind of interesting.
I wouldn't mind having a copy of it.
He gave us $60.
And that was it for this week.
I would say we did poorly, and I hope that people out there don't want to keep getting mailings from me.
They'd rather...
Well, is this just because we're not providing value, John?
I mean, are we sucking?
We did get a lot of smaller amounts.
I'm not going to say we didn't get any money.
Well, yeah, we always have our $5 a month.
And I see a lot of people are subscribing to the lucky $30 monthly subscription, which is always a good thing.
I would recommend that.
But yeah, we have to do better on the next show, and I hope everybody realizes that.
Well, you know...
Dvorak.org slash NA. I think the site's still up.
Could you check that?
That could always be the problem.
Are the links working?
ChannelDvorak.com slash NA are the two appropriate sites.
And you can also go to NoAgendaShow.com and there's a link there.
And I'm going to put a link in my posting on the Dvorak Uncensored site this week to re-emphasize this issue.
Yeah, it's weird.
Because, you know, we have a lot of people that have never...
We have thousands of people that listen to the show that have never given us ten cents.
And they religiously listen.
Now, I don't mind it from...
You know, there's a bunch of people that hate the show and for some reason listen to it religiously just because they...
I don't know what their problem is, but that's what they do.
And there's another thing that I want to do.
I've been trying to emphasize for people to get others to listen to the show.
And I have some clips that I'll be bringing out, some really interesting ones from this writer, Michelle Phillips, who was on over the weekend discussing a book that's very interesting.
But she made an interesting point.
She's mostly talking about the UK and how it's gotten to the point where you go out and you talk to normal people, people who are...
The heart and soul of the country.
And they have certain kinds of thoughts that nobody is reconfirming.
And she made this interesting point, and I have a clip about it, which is, in England especially, and probably in other parts of the world, we always make the joke about, ah, you're just preaching to the choir.
She says you should be preaching to the choir because in many parts of the world, nobody's talking to the choir anymore.
Yeah, exactly.
That's a very good point.
Well, wait a minute.
Why are we even the choir?
Nobody else is thinking like us, are they?
And so people who are thought leaders have to reaffirm to the choir.
In other words, get people who already are kind of on board with the kind of things we talk about.
Get them to listen to the show because you're not going to make anybody switch over.
I know a lot of people that are completely left of center and they have these knee-jerk reactions to everything.
And they listen to the show once.
And this is too disturbing for them to listen to this show.
They're never going to become normal listeners.
But the choir people, many of them never heard of the show.
Those are the people that we need to get on board and we can get these donations up.
Because we need more listeners.
And I think certainly today's program, the opening of the show with all of the real news, it should be a breeze to get your spouse to listen.
Because we know we have like a 95% guy ratio.
We have a couple of dames which are, and I say that not disparagingly, but dames as in knighted female listeners.
And we love them and we cherish them.
But it would seem so easy if you can get your spouse listening.
And otherwise, you're headed for divorce anyway.
So you might as well do your best.
Because you're not thinking the same as her.
And if you don't help us, if you don't support the show, we'll have to continue making our own jingles.
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You know, that is what we're going to end up doing if we don't get more support for what we are doing.
We need to pay Jeff.
To pay Jeff.
By the way, I do want to thank...
The audience has been very kind to me.
I launched my iPhone app.
And every single comment the first three days is like, this is a great app in the morning.
It really hits people in the mouth.
It's like the funniest thing.
New people are downloading this app and they're looking at reviews.
I'm like, hey, what's up with the in the morning cult here?
It's actually, you know, the amount of clips I receive...
Where people catch the in the morning vibe is pretty astounding.
Let's see, this is from the marriage counselor.
He's on the radio in Denver, but I do think there is an issue.
It doesn't matter where.
Yeah, he should just walk into the parties and go, I'm with Erica in the morning.
You start to catch on.
Mark Levine from the Mark Levine Show.
And I decided yesterday to go back into it.
See, you think I'm kidding.
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That's the name of his show.
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And please don't forget, we have show notes that accompany this program.
And that alone, I think, is worth supporting this show.
They're highly searchable.
They're used in many different apps for different mobile devices.
It's a great resource.
It's available in a structured data format, OPML. I mean, there's work being done here.
Yes.
Oh, John, this was kind of cool.
What's the name of the company again that makes the iPhone?
Is that Han Hai?
That makes the iPhone?
Yeah, don't they do all the Apple stuff?
Han Hai?
I thought it was Foxconn.
It's either Foxconn or Quantum.
Maybe it was.
Or Quanta.
I thought it was Foxconn.
No, I don't know anymore.
Well, there was another one.
An employee of manufacturer Hanhai Precision Industry died after plummeting from a building at the company's massive manufacturing complex in China.
Which has been rocked by a wave of suicides where two other workers fell to their deaths just last week.
What is going on there?
I don't know.
It seems like...
Oh, yeah, here it is.
Han Hai, also known by his trade name Foxconn.
There you go.
Okay, it's Foxconn.
Like, you let that bastard have the 4G iPhone and got stolen by Gawker.
Take him to the roof.
Take him to the roof.
Not the roof!
That's exactly right, man.
That's exactly right.
Oh, suicide.
I'm sorry.
What am I thinking?
There's something very, very weird going on there at Foxconn.
Not to be trusted.
Let's see.
United States of Europe has finalized their Ashmageddon Council.
So they've got their guidelines.
The skies are essentially centrally controlled now.
So they got what they wanted.
And I've got to talk to my buddy who works at Eurocontrol.
We won't mention his name, but he's one of our donors.
Eurocontrol is the air traffic management agency.
And so they're going to be in control directly with the European Commission, better known as Starfleet Command.
So they're going to determine when we actually are allowed to fly.
And there's a lot of people looking into this now saying, you know, hey, hold on a second.
This is something really, really stupid went on here.
And I'm sure you heard, by the way, that the Indonesian volcano erupted.
I'm sure there will be no more flights over Indonesia.
It doesn't seem to be the case.
No, of course not.
Of course not.
No, so that thing blew.
Shooting clouds up 12 kilometers, or ash and hot lava and clouds up 12 kilometers.
12 kilometers.
And so, you know, that could essentially shut down.
I mean, there's a lot of flights that go around Indonesia.
It's not like a barren, desolate area.
I don't see anyone shutting the airspace down, interestingly enough.
Yeah, well, they're not trying to push trains in Indonesia either.
Well, funny you mention that.
So there's still much more bad airplane news.
First one, British Airways, record losses.
And they have a strike looming, which is complete.
The strike, I think, is just to break one union.
And I don't know what it is, but there's for sure a war going on against airlines.
And not being able to fly is not helping them.
I don't want to come up with more of a crackpot idea than you do.
But please do.
So one of our listeners, producers, wrote in and suggested that the real rationale...
I'm going to start to take a look at the train routes.
Oh, yeah, you know this.
You must have got the same note.
So the reason you want all these high-speed trains and these new rails and the rest of it is because it's a lot easier to move people by the millions into the FEMA camps.
Yeah, that was Dave Koss who wrote that.
I'm like, don't!
By flying them.
That makes so much sense.
And then Kashif, who celebrates his birthday today, he says, by the way, Adam, do you realize that that center of power in Switzerland, Zouk, Z-U-G. That is, of course, German for train.
Yeah, it is.
I never knew.
I knew that.
It didn't hit me, though.
But the FEMA camps, like, yeah, that makes total sense.
And then, of course, we have to have more, like, completely lame-ass, stupid mainstream news to make you afraid to fly like this one from ABC News.
We are following some breaking news right now out of Boston and there are reports that a JetBlue pilot was pulled from his plane after making some kind of threat.
Several news agencies are reporting that the pilot sent a text message to someone saying he was distraught and planned to crash the plane.
JetBlue has reportedly told them the pilot was removed from service for quote medical reasons and they claim no one on board the plane was ever in any danger.
It sounds like they were in danger to me.
So I'm distraught, right?
I'm in the plane.
I'm distraught.
Let me send a text message.
Hold on.
Damn T9 correction.
Hold on.
Not horrid.
It's head.
I'm going to shoot my head.
Like, please.
I'm going to crash the plane.
Text message indeed.
What a crock.
Yeah.
And that story makes no sense whatsoever.
No.
And then, of course, all over the news, this unfortunate incident in India, a plane that came from Dubai.
Now, you asked me to bring a full report, John.
I think, unfortunately, it was raining.
Runway was wet.
And they overshot the runway.
This does happen.
Unfortunately, this runway is not the one you want to overshoot because at the end it drops off into a ravine.
So they just went off.
Well, that's the report and that's the way it is.
Yeah, they went off over the edge.
Now, what I don't see a lot of news about, and you wonder why, is two train crashes in China.
Yeah, 50 people dead in total.
Two train crashes.
Now, I wonder if that's going to get as much play as this airline.
I'm guessing no.
We can't talk about train crashes, and they're also a mess when they happen.
Yeah, and 12 or 15 cars derailed.
Oh yeah, it's ugly, and they have to cut open these train carriages.
I don't think these were high-speed trains.
Which is probably why it's not, oh, it's not a high-speed train.
Well, then we might as well not report on it.
It's just an old rickety thing.
But, yeah, train crashes are quite ugly.
But somehow it just doesn't have the romance of a plane crash and all the foam and babies being pulled from wreckage filled with foams.
So let's see how much play that gets as we're being transitioned from the airlines to the FEMA camp one-way high-speed rail project.
Sean Maysack has been doing some research, as requested, trying to look into the PR firm for the Codex Alimentarius.
I don't think you're going to find a PR firm specifically for the Codex Alimentarius, who of course are now providing this assault on salt.
I'm getting mail from all over the world.
Everywhere this is being rolled out in exactly the same fashion.
Gitmo Nation Lowlands is way on board the program.
They've got talk shows in the evening, doctors being rolled out on panels.
Yes, salt is killing us.
Salt is very bad.
We've got to get rid of salt.
Unilever, which of course is an Anglo-Dutch company.
Yeah, I've got to lower all the salt and everything.
So the salt is under assault.
I'm now convinced, the more I listen to you about this issue and the more I read about it from others, that I think your early thesis is the one that's the big thesis, which is there's going to be quote-unquote new salt.
Well, you just said the brand name.
You just got it.
You guessed it.
You guessed it!
And it's called New Salt?
Yes.
Cumberland.
Cumberland Packing Corp.
is the company that for years has been bringing you NutraSweet, ButterBuds.
I swear to God.
Go to N-U-S-A-L-T-A-L-T.com.
NewSalt.com.
It's here.
NewSalt.com.
N-U-S-A-L-T dot com.
Brought to you by the Cumberland Packing Corporation.
And what is NUSALT? NUSALT is a sodium-free substitute that we believe looks, tastes, and sprinkles like real salt.
Please consult with your physician before using new salt.
What?
Yeah, well, I'm looking at this website.
These are not the people behind this promotion because this is mediocre.
Well, but go look at the...
There's a bigger company.
It's Monsanto or somebody else has got to have something coming out that's not so lame.
Well, would you please go look at Cumberland Packing Corporation.
It's CPAC.com.
And these guys make sugar in the raw, stevia in the raw, natra taste blue, natra taste gold, sweet and low, new salt, butter buds, and sweet one.
They've been doing it for 50 years, according to their website.
And they manufacture it, John.
These guys make it.
So, Stat Holdings Corporation, hold on a second.
Hmm...
What is in new salt?
This is a potassium thing.
It's not healthy.
Of course.
It says consult your doctor before using.
How can it be?
Isn't that like a huh?
Yeah, it's a giveaway.
Stad Holdings Corp.
Also in Brooklyn.
Let's see.
Anyway, so yeah, NewSolved.
Yeah, you're right.
We should have grabbed that domain name.
That would have been awesome.
So anyway, just briefly back to Sean.
Ketchum is the PR agency for the United Nations.
The United Nations Hoffman and Hoffman Worldwide is the PR firm for the World Health Organization.
Hoffman represent a lot of interesting names.
Have you ever heard of Hoffman PR, John?
Yeah.
Government of Japan, their clients.
Government of Mexico, Government of the Netherlands, Government of Norway, Government of Turkey.
They seem to be specialists.
GlaxoSmithKline, Johnson& Johnson, Pfizer, Pharmaceuticals Research, Manufacturers of America...
I mean, these guys, they were the World Bank.
They represent the World Meteorological Organization.
So, of course, they're helping out with global warming.
These guys, they got an impressive client list.
They got somebody in the agency there that's a hot shot.
We should hire them.
We should.
Maybe we get better.
We should.
Yeah.
Or they should just work on a pro bono basis for us.
So, um, and that was, uh, Philip R. who found, uh...
Hello!
You okay?
Suddenly somebody fell down the stairs.
Coming to you from Foxconn Central.
It's 500, yeah, it's a potassium chloride product.
Um...
Yeah, you don't want to be loading up on potassium.
Well, it's new salt.
Like NutraSweet is good for you.
You shouldn't be loading up on that either.
Why do you need something to be so sweet all the time?
Anyway, okay.
Minneapolis.
Oak Creek, Minneapolis.
And this was weird when I read this.
A message went out from the Oak Creek Health Department.
They are offering adult immunizations.
And in the adult immunization clinic, June 15th, in the Common Council Room at City Hall, vaccines being offered.
Hepatitis A, hepatitis B, HPV, Gardasil for males and females up to age 26, MMR for adults born after 1957, Td, Tdap, and varicella.
And this is made possible through funding from the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009.
So, our, uh...
Our stimulus went for vaccinations?
Well, I guess.
Well, then, while we're on the topic of vaccinations, we have a few clips.
Okie doke.
So, you know, this group, you don't really know who they are or where they came from, but all of a sudden they supposedly synthesized some DNA or synthesized something.
Oh, right.
The artificial life or something like that, right?
Well, it's synthetic, they say.
Not artificial.
It's different.
Okay.
Because there's some...
So, you've got to help me on this.
So, what exactly have they done?
Well, that's what I was wondering.
So, you went to do some research, as we do on this show.
It's like, apparently they explained it in this long clip, which I don't have the whole thing here.
But the guy's name is Craig Ventner.
And he is one of these guys who likes to deconstruct.
He did the Human Genome, was part of the Human Genome Project.
Oh, okay.
I think he did one of the first...
So now he's cashing in on his...
Well, they decided to...
Supposedly, they created a fake DNA. They deconstructed what a genome looks like, and then they created one in a computer, which also has a bunch of email addresses plugged into it.
What?
Into the genome?
Yeah.
Email addresses, thank you notes, and a couple of quotes.
Baked into your DNA. Yeah, and a web address.
And a web server.
Yeah.
So anyway, they created this little thing from what he says is four bottles of chemicals, and they made this strand artificially, and then they shoved it in.
I guess they took some little bacteria, which was alive, I guess, at the time, and they gutted it and dropped this thing in real quick before the bacteria could die, and now they've got some bacteria that is completely some whole new form of life.
It's sketchy.
Okay.
But there's a couple of clips I have here.
Let me get back to my clip page.
There's a couple of clips here.
There's the one that got to me.
One is, like, who financed this idea?
The guy's very glib, by the way.
There's no sense of humor.
He's a classic engineer.
But play a synthetic DOE, for starters, and then we'll go to the real...
Sorry?
Then we'll get to the real guts of this.
Even with this announcement, as we did in 2003, that work was funded by the Department of Energy, so the work was reviewed at the level of the White House, trying to decide whether to classify the work or publish it, and they came down on the side of open publication, which is the right approach.
We've briefed the White House.
We've briefed members of Congress.
We've tried to take and push the policy issues in parallel with the scientific advances.
Department of Energy?
Doesn't that get you?
No, it makes so much sense.
It's like the Matrix.
Department of Energy also, you know, very few people realize that.
You know, people talk about, oh, the military secrets in Area 51 or 54, whatever the heck the name of it is.
51.
51.
Is owned by the Department of Energy.
Yes.
That's a Department of Energy facility.
And now we're having synthetic life financed by the Department of Energy?
Why?
Have you not seen the Matrix?
We're all going to be batteries.
That's why.
This is the true meaning of the smart grid.
This is what it's all about.
You get your web server plugged into your DNA. You get a couple of thank you notes.
So you can run around in the Matrix and be civil.
But meanwhile, you're a battery packer.
He plugged in.
Yeah, okay.
So here we go.
Now, here's the, he gives his long speech about this.
It's very boring.
And I have it on the blog, devorek.org slash blog.
You can watch it.
But anyway, he, at the end, somebody asked him a question.
It's the only question that he actually answers, any long-winded answer.
But within the answer, all will be revealed.
It's a little lengthy, but you have to listen to it in its entirety, and you'll see what this is really all about.
And it falls right into everything we've been talking about on this show.
So with that, I would like to open it first to the floor for questions.
Yes, in the back.
Could you explain in layman's terms how significant a breakthrough this is, please?
Can we explain how significant this is?
I'm not sure we're the ones that should be explaining how significant it is.
It's significant to us.
Perhaps it's a giant philosophical change in how we view life.
We actually view it as a baby step in terms of it's taken us 15 years to now to be able to do the experiment we wanted to do 15 years ago on understanding life at its basic level.
But we actually believe this is going to be a very powerful set of tools.
And we're already starting in numerous avenues to use this tool.
We have at the Institute ongoing funding now from NIH and a program with Novartis to try and use these new synthetic DNA tools to perhaps make the flu vaccine that you might get next year.
Because instead of taking weeks to months to make these, Dan's team can now make these in less than 24 hours.
So when you see how long it took to get an H1N1 vaccine out, we think we can shorten that process quite substantially.
In the vaccine area, so synthetic genomics and the Institute are forming a new vaccine company because we think these tools can affect vaccines to diseases that haven't been possible to date, things like that.
Things where the viruses rapidly evolve, such with rhinovirus.
Wouldn't it be nice to have something to actually block common colds?
Or more importantly, HIV, where the virus evolves so quickly the vaccines that are made today can't...
Keep up with those evolutionary changes.
Also at synthetic genomics, we've been working on major environmental issues.
I think this latest oil spill in the Gulf is a reminder.
We can't see CO2. We depend on scientific measurements for it, and we see the beginning results of having too much of it.
But we can see pre-CO2 now floating on the waters and contaminating the beaches and the Gulf.
We need some alternatives for oil.
We have a program with ExxonMobil to try and develop new strains of algae that can efficiently capture carbon dioxide from the atmosphere or from concentrated sources, make new hydrocarbons that can go into their refineries to make normal gasoline and diesel fuel out of CO2. Those are just a couple of the approaches and directions that we're taking.
Wait a minute.
These guys have the solution to everything.
Yeah.
So, wait a minute.
So, it's vaccines for everything.
We'll fix global warming.
And...
And clean up the water.
Oh, my God.
You know, one of the great jokes in...
I guess global economics or whatever are these ideas of invasive fish.
You know, somebody brings this idiotic fish over here and the next thing you know it eats all the good fish in our lakes.
Right, right.
Or somebody brings a plant over like kudzu and it takes over the south and it's killing everything left and right.
So let's invent our own invasive products that we have no idea what they've ever done.
There's no natural selection against them.
And let's just drop these things in the water.
I mean, this is like...
And let's turn everybody into a battery while we're at it.
Into a battery.
But it's like, you know, this guy...
They say, oh, we can create the vaccine in 24 hours.
No, you can make maybe one thing with these tools.
It doesn't mean you can go into full-blown manufacturing.
I mean, the whole thing is just bogus.
Bogus.
But money's flying around, and I don't think anything's going to come of any of it, but it's amazing to me that all these people are lapping this up.
Well, in pharmaceuticals, there are a lot of things happening, and they are coming up with a new revision of the psychiatry's Bible of mental disorders.
It's the DSM, release number five.
And there's going to be a new illness.
Uh-oh.
Yep.
And this may fit into it.
Psychosis Risk Syndrome, PRS. Look for it as the new meme.
A mental disorder that confirms that you might develop a mental illness.
I swear to God.
By listening to our show.
Well, there you go.
It's like, you have to take the shot, slave.
You need to have it now.
PRS stands out as the most ill-conceived and potentially harmful of all syndromes, naysayers.
Denialists, say.
Denialists.
However, you've got this guy, Australian psychiatrist Patrick McGorry, who was at the APA convention in New Orleans.
He's saying, oh, this is great, and we'll have medicine for this.
Oh, no!
Oh, yeah, we're going to give babies PRS medicine, because they might become mentally unstable later on in life.
Guys like him around.
Yeah.
I think we need less.
They should back off on some of these things instead of adding to it.
What do you mean?
I think it's great.
There should be less mental diseases that are defined, you know?
And some of them are just like, this is just the way the guy's eccentric.
It's not some mental illness.
Well...
Yeah, I mean, of course.
I mean, you and I would obviously be diagnosed with PRS at an early age, and we'd be hyped up on something from Glaxo.
It's false.
Or Novartis, or whoever else is making all this crap.
Yeah, well, luckily, I don't know.
Luckily, some parents don't buy into this, and they don't get their kids all shot up with everything.
It's actually called Risperidone.
Or the clinical name is Risperidol.
Risperidone is the clinical name.
Risperidol is the brand name made by Janssen.
What is it?
It reduces your risk of, quote, transition to psychosis.
How?
I don't know, John.
I just bring you the news.
I'm not a doctor.
I'm not a doctor.
I don't even play one on TV. Well, they used to give people lobotomies, right?
Oh, yeah, that was another great move.
And these were doctors that were advising this.
That was a real good one.
It was like, you know, just take a chunk out of your brain.
They actually had, at one point, an open-air clinic that you could just...
It was a volunteer.
You could just get a lobotomy if you felt like.
And this is the idiots, apparently, lined up in Central Park, New York, where some one of these doctors...
To get a lobotomy?
Yeah.
It would line up, because it was considered during the era of the lobotomy as a great cure for everything.
You're nervous, you couldn't hit a baseball, you were...
You need a lobotomy?
You stammered, whatever.
All you needed was a lobotomy.
It was considered like the cure-all.
It was considered a medical miracle.
And so apparently this one guy was so good at giving lobotomies that he could Uh-huh.
Go through that hole where the optic nerve is and then clip the connection between the frontal lobe and the rest of the brain and you had a lobotomy and you could walk away a happy camper.
And we think the Islamists are crazy by giving their women clitorectomies.
Well, they are crazy for women with clitorectomies, but that's beside the point.
The point is that this is popular thinking at any given time.
Historically, we always like to imagine that it's not going on in front of us, global warming.
We imagine that there's no craziness, but in fact, it could be like half of the information that we're being fed on a day-to-day basis, I think, Well, I think we try to prove that on this show.
It's just bogus, or it's part of a public relations stunt, or it's just a lie designed to separate you from your money.
Yes, I'm on board with that one.
That, I think, bingo.
You're right.
And this does fit into things like health care.
You know, separate you from your money is absolutely, I'm down with that one.
You're right.
Risperidone.
It's an atypical antipsychotic use to treat schizophrenia, schizoaffective disorder, the mixed and manic states associated with bipolar disorder, which by the way I don't believe in, and irritability in children with autism.
Drug developed by Janssen-Seelag, first released in 1994, sold under the trade name Risperidol in the Netherlands, United States, Canada, Australia, United Kingdom, Portugal, Spain, Turkey, New Zealand, and several other countries.
Ugh.
Well, I've known too many people that have bipolar that are completely nuts, so I'm a total believer in it, although I think it used to be called schizophrenia.
Can it just be called eccentric?
No, definitely not eccentric.
That's different.
Well, isn't schizophrenia the definition that you become paranoid and then it goes away?
I mean, bipolar seems like people go really depressed.
I mean, but what is it?
Why are they really depressed?
They have some sort of imbalance in their...
You're telling me that's chemical?
They change personalities right before your very eyes.
Yeah, but are you saying this is a chemical imbalance?
I don't know.
They don't know what...
Well, that's what this stuff is for.
Bipolar get lithium, it seems to help them.
Oh, by the way, Risperidol has also been used as a control drug for people with Tourette's syndrome.
Hey, I should get me some.
You should.
Hi, John.
In the morning.
How you doing?
I love everybody.
Yes, global warming.
It's so chilly here in Los Angeles.
Hmm.
So there's a bunch of news stories.
I think we're off that topic.
So there's a bunch of news stories hitting.
In fact, Mimi collected just a ton of them.
And I don't know who's doing it, but there seems to be some sort of a media battle between newspapers who are downplaying the illegal alien thing and TV stations which are upplaying it.
Yes, yes.
Fox, the Geraldo show, had a particularly annoying guest host.
Who was just yelling at all of our guests, and it was just like, they were all just like, boo, it was huge, huge arguments about immigration.
Here's an Edmunds Washington story.
The man accused of raping a woman behind an Edmunds grocery store has been deported at least four times in the past 15 years, reports KIRO Radio.
There seems to be this, you know, apparently we were deporting people and dropping them off right at the Tijuana border.
Uh-huh.
And they just walk back.
I mean, these people go back and forth, so it's pointless.
But the thing is, why are we deporting rapists when they should just throw them in jail?
But we can't, obviously, you know, it costs $40,000 a year to keep people in prison.
Anyway, all these stories, which we'll put in the show notes if you want to read a bunch of depressing stories, harkens back to what did Roosevelt do?
This problem of Mexicans coming to the United States is nothing new.
They've been sneaking across the border forever.
And Roosevelt, the great liberal Roosevelt, used to take and pack them into ships.
Yeah.
And then drop them off in the Yucatan Peninsula.
Huh.
In the middle of the jungle.
How many do you think?
I mean, what numbers are we talking about, really?
When Roosevelt was doing it?
Yeah.
A couple hundred thousand people, I think, were shipped to Mexico on the ship.
Annually or in total?
I don't know.
Once he did it two or three times, they stopped coming in.
He's like, hey, I don't want to be on that ship.
It's a long walk.
That ship blows.
So it took care of the problem, but we're not even thinking in any terms like that.
We're trying to, well, let's let them stay.
They just want to do jobs that Americans won't do.
When it's really all about the crime problem, which is what we're talking about here with these rapists who apparently come over here and find that it's...
According to court documents, this woman who was just raped the other night told police that Madrigal had followed her and offered her $35 for sex.
But she said no.
She said Madrigal then forced her into the bushes and raped her.
Nice.
Yeah, these are depressing stories.
Well, Calderon was visiting, and he gave us a nice little lecture.
Yeah, considering that everything he told us to do he doesn't do.
Yeah, really.
He's like, stop profiling my people.
Why don't you keep your people at home?
Stop letting them run away.
You know what this whole thing is starting to look like, particularly when you add the trains, and then, of course, we now have the internal rife between Arizona threatening to turn off the power in California, which, by the way, how long do you think it's going to be until Arizona electricity production is labeled vital to U.S. interests, will be nationalized and forced to provide power to California?
Yeah.
Don't you think that would be in the cards?
Well, if they actually follow through with their threats.
Well, they might follow through.
These are all idle threats.
I mean, what's L.A. going to do?
Well, it's not just L.A. It's all of California.
But you bring the trains into it, man.
I think that it's very obvious.
No, it's not very obvious.
It's just you wanted to play that clip.
It's very obvious.
It is like they're following the playbook to the T. To the T. Everything is happening exactly the way it happens in the book.
Everything.
That's why Alan Greenspan loved the book and loved Ayn Rand.
He was like, this is a good plan.
We'll do the Ayn Rand who was a Nazi in a future show.
What I'm saying is it's horrible.
Except the problem is there's no John Galt to come and save the day.
You.
Right.
Me and my hardware up here in the watchtower.
No, I don't think so.
No.
So let's play, I got another new word.
Ooh.
Besides LL and exfoliation or whatever that other word was.
Exfiltration.
Exfiltration.
See if you can spot the new word under the clip New Word 1.
Prime Minister Gordon Brown was caught on a microphone discussing a conversation he'd had with a woman he described as a bigot, that the New York Times began its story by saying a gaffe is when a politician tells the truth.
And this is a kind of folk wisdom, that politicians are inherent liars, that they are basically figures who disassemble that one can find in many different forms.
The idea, for example, that you can Always tell when a politician is lying, when he's moving his lips.
Did you get it?
No.
Oh, you missed it?
Yes.
Dissemble.
Oh.
Dissemble.
Isn't disassemble?
No, disassemble.
What does that mean?
It means lie.
It's a long-winded way of saying lie.
Oh, that's good.
Dissemble.
To disguise or conceal behind a false appearance.
Nice.
This guy, I don't have his name in front of me, but he wrote this treatise on the University of California Press, I think.
And he wrote this long-winded book about how good it is to be...
It's a good thing that people lie.
It's a positive thing because they have to in certain situations.
I don't know if it's a book worth putting on the book club, but the guy was kind of interesting.
But throughout...
He keeps using Dissemble?
He keeps using Dissemble, Dissemble, Dissemble, Dissemble.
And then, when you hear the questions and answers, the people in the audience start using it.
Wait a minute.
It's the doublespeak of the week.
War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.
We love you.
It's total doublespeak.
Wow, this symbol.
Yeah, isn't that weird, though, how the audience must have been journalists.
Yeah.
Yeah, they always do that, and they start using the same bogus words.
Yeah, I know, it's hilarious.
Wow.
You got one more?
I only have one more clip, which is a guy who's a talk show host and a tea party guy.
He wrote this book, which may be a good one to put on the book club, That's not an angry mob.
That's my mom.
Okay.
And it's about the Tea Partiers and how good-natured they are and how it's, you know, this kind of thing is being totally misinterpreted and being done wrong by the media for various reasons.
We all know what they are.
But it was an interesting little discussion.
But he did have this little, he had this one complaint.
Which I thought was interesting about how the newspapers don't...
You know, these guys are basically in some...
Their heads aren't screwed on right, but they can play Boston Globe.
But anyway, so we're standing there, and who's not there?
The Boston Globe.
Not covering the national...
Our local version of the National Tea Party.
In fact, the next day when they ran a story, they had to run an AP Wire story about my tea party...
In their town, Dateline, Frankfurt, Kentucky.
I mean, that's just...
Look, I'm a newspaper lover.
I'm a media lover.
My oldest son is named after H.L. Minkin.
I love...
I want to love my newspapers.
That is not a mistake.
That is not a faux pas.
That is blatant, shameless bias of people who refuse to understand and see the movement when it first started.
Well, blatant bias or not, I mean, it was a story that was missed, as we saw with the election of Scott Brown.
Right.
Who you talk about, and I'm going to turn to your chapter.
The funny thing is that he's being interviewed like they like to do on C-SPAN. They put somebody that's kind of up here, and they put this guy from ABC News.
I don't have my sheet with his name on it, but the guy's a total douchebag, and all he does is attack this book writer for being even remotely sympathetic to the tea party.
And it was just one of the weirdest interviews I've ever seen.
And he was outclassed by this other guy who was a talk show host, and he could just talk the other guy down easily.
Well, there was a lot of weird stuff in that regard this past week, particularly with the new senator from, I guess, Kentucky, Rand Paul, Ron Paul's son.
Well, he's not the new senator.
He's now the candidate.
Oh, okay.
Isn't that right?
No, I thought he was the new senator.
I thought he beat the Republican and now he gets to run for Senate.
Oh, see, I've been trying to stay away from it because all I see is everyone hyping.
Don Lemon was all over that again yesterday on CNN as well, that he's against civil rights and he had his victory celebration at a golf club and essentially turning him into a racist.
He said, It's just so much weird stuff.
Yeah, no, he's now the candidate.
Meanwhile, I think he's a creepy guy.
He's just a creepy guy.
I don't think he's going to win.
Why do you think he's creepy?
Well, he's expressionless.
Totally expressionless.
He has robotic answers to everything.
He sounds a lot like his dad.
Yeah, he sounds like him, but when you watch him, he's creepy.
Maybe his dad was that way when he was younger, but he's way too glib, self-assured, without any emotion.
I just find him creepy.
What can I say?
People are creepy.
He's one of them.
But not necessarily what he says, just how he looks, you mean?
No, he's creepy.
Yeah, well, most people are creepy not because of what they say.
It's the way they handle themselves.
You know, they say, well, that guy's creepy.
It's not because he said something creepy.
Well, let's face it, there's a lot of creepy people in Congress and the Senate.
No, but he's way up right in.
Yeah, totally.
Very lizard-like, let's put it that way.
I want you to take a look at this ad from Sonora.
Sonora is in Mexico.
I think it's a tourist destination.
And this came in from Sheriff Joe.
This ran in the Arizona Republic Today newspaper.
And so they're looking for people to come on vacation in Sonora, but if you look at this ad, I just Skyped it to you.
Oh, brother!
So it's like a Mexican soldier looking through binoculars, and it says, in Sonora, we're looking for people from Arizona.
It looks like he's going to shoot you.
That's exactly it.
I think it's intended.
I don't know if they think this is funny.
The website is gotosonora.com, which doesn't have the ad on it, unfortunately, but it looks like a wonderful place.
But that ad is like, whoa, what a way to play into current events.
Yeah, especially if you don't want anyone going to Sonora.
My goodness.
It looks like he's wearing camouflage.
He's got a camouflage helmet on.
He's a soldier.
He's a Mexican soldier.
Looking for people from Arizona.
Pretty crazy.
Well, John, I think we have deconstructed quite enough for today.
Tonight, of course, I will be spending a little since the Pacific has ended.
What an outstanding series that was.
I think I will watch Bret Michaels win Celebrity Apprentice.
Well, I'm going to watch Lost.
Yeah, you do that.
Give me a call.
Let me know how it was.
I think it's four hours or something.
Really?
Four hours?
I don't know.
It says it's two hours or something.
And that'll be four hours.
I'm going to record it and then plow through it because I'm not going to watch those commercials.
It'll be four hours of your life you never get back.
Well, I know, but I can share.
And there'll be a cliffhanger, and there'll be an opening for another series.
It's the way it always is.
They say no.
Right.
Wait until that check comes through.
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