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159: Health Care Doublecross

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	That guy just looks like a phony.
	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	It's December 24th, 2009.
	Time for your Gitmo Nation media assassination episode 159.
	This is no agenda.
	No longer a valid person according to the United States Supreme Court.
	And coming to you live from the Minimum Security Containment Cell Crackpot Command Center in Gitmo Nation West, San Francisco, California, in the morning.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	Hello to everybody out there in the Midwest where you're having a blizzard.
	It's sunny in northern Silicon Valley.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	It's Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	In the morning to you, John.
	Morning to you.
	Yes, in the morning.
	Morning, morning.
	So, yeah, there's a blizzard that's apparently pounding.
	It's going to screw up everybody's Christmas.
	A global warming blizzard.
	Yes, a global warming.
	We need to start giving it names.
	Wait a minute.
	Before we do anything, John, before we do anything, I think because of the storm, we should take a moment and listen to Sir Lord Al Gore's Global Warming Poet.
	One thin September soon, a floating comet disappears in midnight sun.
	Vapors rise as fever settles on an acid sea.
	Neptune's bones dissolve.
	Snow glides from the mountains.
	Ice follows floods for a season, hardening comes quickly.
	The Endura is parched.
	Kindling is placed in the forest for the lightening celebration.
	Unknown creatures take their leave unmourned, hoarsely ready their stirrups.
	Passion seeks heroes and friends.
	The bell of the city on the hill is rung.
	The shepherd cries.
	The hour of choosing has arrived.
	Here are your tools.
	I have five different versions of that.
	Yeah, brother.
	Do you have one that's good?
	Yeah, I got one that's really good.
	You didn't like that one?
	I mean, that was an Al Gore original.
	I'll tell you why I didn't like it.
	It was muddy.
	Okay, we'll try this one then.
	One thin September soon, a floating continent disappears in midnight sun.
	Vapors rise as fever settles on an acid sea.
	Neptune's bones dissolve.
	Snow glides from the mountain.
	Ice's farthest plants for a season.
	A hard rain comes quickly.
	Then dirt is parched.
	Kindling is placed in the forest for the lightning celebration.
	Unknown creatures take their lead unmourned.
	Horsemen ready their stirrups.
	Compassion seeks heroes and friends.
	The bell of the city on the hill is round.
	The shepherd cries.
	The arrow of choosing has arrived.
	I am your tool.
	Here are your tools.
	All right.
	Enough of that.
	That was a good one.
	Hey, who are the executive producers for episode 159, John?
	We've got five executive producers, which is a nice Christmas spirit thing.
	Now, the executive producer, per se, who came up with the most money...
	Over 200.
	You know, I don't know.
	I'm having mixed feelings about this guy.
	This is Sander Hoeksbergen.
	Hoeksbergen, yeah.
	Who is just giving us money for the sole purpose of hearing me butcher the town of...
	Zondom?
	Zondom.
	So, yeah, it's a fetish.
	Let it go.
	I mean, some people spend 300 bucks a month on phone sex lines.
	Let it go.
	But I don't get the humor here because, I mean, all I say is Zan Dom.
	Is that it?
	I nailed it.
	No, you didn't nail it.
	You still have the intonation wrong.
	It's Zan Dom.
	Zan Dom.
	Yeah, Zan Dom.
	Is that it?
	There is something funny about the way you say it, John.
	I can't help it.
	There is something funny about it.
	Well, thank you very much, Sonder.
	And I don't mind, John.
	I'm okay if he wants to be an executive producer just to hear you pronounce sound dumb.
	Or mispronounce it as far as he's concerned.
	It's fine either way.
	Oh, he gave us $252.52, which is kind of cute.
	That's a nice number.
	And I want to thank him, too.
	And I'll get the pronunciation correct, but maybe it'll cost us in the end.
	Yeah, I think it'll probably be a couple grand before it gets it right, Sander.
	Keep it coming.
	I got it.
	I'll nail it.
	What I'm going to do is I'm going to record it.
	Then I'll just play the recording.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, okay.
	So then we have our associate executive producers, John Winiarski from San Diego.
	It gave us $234.56.
	Cool, thank you.
	And then we have our...
	Brights Grove, Ontario, $250 from Maria Strott.
	I'm assuming that's her last name because this is for her hubby, Rudolf Strott, S-T-R-A-T. My Christmas gift to him.
	He's been an executive producer before.
	Wait a minute, so she's actually giving an executive producer, an associate executive producer status to her husband.
	Well, he's been an executive producer before, according to the way she puts it.
	I think I remember it being, it was like months ago.
	Yeah, that's what she's doing.
	Thank you, Maria.
	Yeah, Maria, thank you so much.
	And then we have another $250 from Julie Lee, who is in Clinton, North Carolina.
	And she had called us out because she, but I'm going to read you in the note, Merry Christmas, John and Adam, did not donate through PayPal, but I hate to break it, but it came through PayPal anyway.
	Last time I did so, I asked that at birthday recognition of my husband, Brandon Lee, and his PayPal name is Robert Lee.
	He got credit for the donation with no birthday wishes.
	Oh, no!
	Yeah, it's terrible.
	Oh, no!
	Hey, Brandon, sorry.
	Dude, we suck.
	We suck.
	His first name is Robert, and his correlation to Robert E. Lee was mentioned, but that was my only birthday gift to him.
	So I was disappointed, I would think.
	How about Bruce Lee?
	So anyway, no, here she sets up this birthday deal, and then we blow it.
	I thought we did it.
	I know we did it for somebody.
	I really don't remember.
	Anyway, so now she's making the donation on her behalf.
	Okay.
	Even though she's still disappointed about the rent.
	This is Julie Lee, and she's now female number 32, who's actually involved with...
	Can you imagine the gangbang we could have where we put all our producers in one room?
	And then finally, our last producer, $251, came from Rob Seelock in Cochran, Alberta, where all the money is.
	Alberta, Canada is where all the money is.
	That's where it all is.
	And the Canadians know it, and the Americans don't seem to know it.
	Well, thank you very much, Sonder, John, Maria, Julie, and Rob, for...
	Being executive producers, all receiving full credit in the show notes at noagendashow.com, curry.com, dvorak.org, slash blog.
	And of course, as mentioned in this very program, feel free to put that on your curriculum.
	You can just add it to your resume at any time.
	We'll vouch for you.
	It's valid and it looks good, particularly if you're looking for a gig in media.
	Yeah, actually.
	It makes sense.
	Was there something else with Jeff Wright?
	No, I see.
	I wrote this down.
	I want to remember that Jeff actually had purchased the Wall Street Journal iPhone app and he found out that it's going to cost him $52 a year.
	He's like, screw that.
	I'm just going to go for $60 at a $5 a month subscription.
	Instead of the Wall Street Journal app, Jeff Wright from Jacksonville, Florida.
	Highly appreciate it, dude.
	And I think these are the choices we have to make in these hard times.
	What are you going to buy?
	What are you going to put your money towards?
	Obviously, we feel this is a smart use of your...
	Discretionary funds.
	Yeah, they keep the show on the air.
	And the main thing is we keep digging up really cool stuff.
	I have a lot of stuff today.
	Oh, dude.
	I mean, you know, I'm hoping that my battery holds out on the microphone because this could be a long show.
	There is amazing stuff going on.
	Well...
	I mean, I hesitate to even want to start...
	Well, let's start with the...
	Let's just start with the Robert...
	I got just a short clip.
	That's a humor clip of the day.
	Robert Gibbs.
	A short laugh that I want to use as a regular bit.
	Regular feature.
	It's like a two-second, three-second Robert...
	or Gibbs.
	This is the mouthpiece for the president.
	He is the official spokesman for the White House who does his daily briefings for the White House press corps.
	And here he is in all his glory.
	What a tool.
	What was this about?
	It sounds hilarious to me.
	I don't know why.
	What was he laughing about?
	Somebody asked a question that was just, you know, it was just, I've been recording all the press conferences and every once in a while, you know, somebody says something kind of amusing and self-deprecating and Gibbs laughs at it.
	I mean, I didn't put as much Gibbs stuff in it.
	I could have made the whole show about Gibbs with the stuff I've collected.
	Yeah, Mickey and I watched the HBO documentary about the entire election campaign for Barack Obama.
	Which was a horrible documentary, by the way.
	I mean, it just wasn't put together very well.
	But you mainly see Axelrod and Gibbs, who of course are like marketing PR guys with emphasis on marketing.
	And I'm always watching C-SPAN, and I'm watching the daily press briefings, and Mickey's like, wait, isn't that like the slimy PR dude from the documentary?
	I said, yeah, he actually speaks on behalf of the president these days.
	He is the voice of the White House, and let's listen to it again.
	That's right.
	So now, the one thing, just the more light stuff at the beginning of the show here.
	I have a clip.
	This is not the clip I'm going to...
	I'm going to eventually take the end of this clip and use it as a clip for the end of the year sound wrap-up.
	But play the...
	What's it called on here?
	It's called a reality clip.
	This is the beginning of a CSI Miami with Caruso, who's this deadpan actor who just delivers these craziest lines.
	He just makes you shake your head.
	Season finale, Mike, I was just about to propose to Grace.
	Yeah, and make her a million dollars richer.
	I can't believe this.
	How could this have happened to her?
	It happened because reality just became real.
	Reality just became real.
	It happened to her because reality just became real.
	Yeah, I think you're right.
	I gotta give that sound effect a button.
	Hey, you almost did that!
	You sounded like him!
	I can't tell the difference between John and Robert.
	It's getting tough now.
	Yeah.
	The name of this clip for everybody out there, I named these clips and Adam has to figure out what I'm going to talk about.
	It's called Gibbs Laughing Like an Idiot.
	Yeah, that's the one.
	So I think I can just label it Gibbs Idiot and I'll be able to remember what it is.
	So, this came from another Gibbs thing.
	This was, I thought it was kind of interesting because it was never really picked up by the media, even though it's kind of funny and it's kind of light and it would kind of, I think it reflects interesting.
	I don't know what, I guess the media doesn't know what to make of this.
	Play the Barry from DC clip.
	This is Gibbs again.
	Do you know if the president called up Tim Kaine's radio show this morning identifying himself as Barry from D.C.? I don't know if he did, but that would be inaccurate.
	Yes.
	It sounded like him.
	I think this is Governor Kaine's last radio show, and I know there was a call sheet that went in, likely went in.
	I'd just say yes!
	He identified himself as Barry from D.C. to surprise the governor of Virginia.
	Yes.
	Just say yes.
	I know, he can't do that.
	I mean, this is what they chew up all this time with this blather, just saying, did you call in Barry?
	Yeah, he did.
	It's pretty funny.
	Just say yes.
	So I think that, and I saw in the chat room a couple of people have been trying, try to get on some mainstream shows, some call-in shows.
	I think you should call in as Barry from D.C., and that's when you want to basically, you know, say, you know, noagendashow.com in the morning.
	Yeah.
	They should.
	We need all our people to call in these radio shows and say, did you listen to No Agenda last week?
	Yeah, exactly.
	Hi, it's Barry from D.C. Did you listen to NoAgendaShow.com in the morning?
	I even mentioned it in the opening of the show, John.
	I am blown away.
	By a little ruling, the Supreme Court passed down Monday.
	And I don't know if you blogged about this, but basically, I have to start looking over my shoulder because the law is now totally set to do anything they want to anyone in the United States.
	Have you heard about this amazing Supreme Court ruling?
	No, tell me about it.
	So there was a case that was brought by four British former Guantanamo Bay prisoners, and they brought this against former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.
	And the Supreme Court passed down a ruling that essentially said that if the state deems you an enemy combatant of the state, which started under Bush, of course, and basically the United States can deem anyone an enemy combatant of the state.
	I think, wasn't that the MIAC report where They actually listed some of those things.
	It could be anyone from a Ron Paul supporter to someone who's carrying around the Constitution and talking crazy.
	Yeah, crazy talking about the Constitution.
	So if you actually are deemed an enemy combatant of the state, there is now a statute based upon this ruling that you are deemed not a person.
	So you have no legal status under the United States law as a person, ergo, anything can happen to you.
	That's interesting.
	I think it goes beyond interesting.
	It's completely insane.
	So first the Obama administration asked the court not to hear the case.
	So the court agreed, letting stand an earlier opinion by the D.C. Circuit Court, which found that the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, a statute that applies by its terms to all persons, did not apply to detainees in Guantanamo, effectively ruling that the detainees are not persons for all purposes of U.S. law.
	The lower court also dismissed the detainee's claims under the Alien Tort Statute and Geneva Convention, finding defendants immune on the basis that, quote, torture is a foreseeable consequence of the military's detention of suspected enemy combatants.
	In other words...
	That's a beauty.
	Yeah.
	Torture is legal if you're not a person.
	I mean, literally, just by saying, hey, John, you know what?
	Today you are an enemy combatant of the state, therefore you are not a person, so you have no legal rights.
	You have no human rights.
	You're not a person.
	But all I did was not to get my mail.
	It reminds me of, what was that movie, like Gattaca, I think it was, no, not Gattaca, whatever, like the science fiction movie where you have to pass through and then you're deemed valid or invalid.
	This is exactly what it is.
	You're an invalid.
	All I did was not pick up my mail.
	Well, you know, there's something, there's a sadomasochistic aspect to this.
	This is actually sick.
	In one of these days, I hate to say this to some of the politicians out there or some of the executives in various branches of government, and I think it's already become a problem for Cheney and Rumsfeld, That one world government, there's a world court out there, they're going to get indicted, and they're actually going to get picked up.
	Yeah, oh yeah.
	When they're floating around Switzerland one day, checking on their bank account.
	Why do you think they're all hiding out in Paraguay, dude?
	They're not going to go anywhere near Switzerland.
	Because you're absolutely right, they could get a one-way ticket free ride to The Hague to the International Criminal Court, which of course by itself is a huge scam.
	Yeah, it's a total scam, but the fact of the matter is there's so many people that one-worlders are promoting this, you know, international court to such an extreme, and they've already picked up, you know, a guy from, what, Slovenia, not Slovenia, but, you know, a positive guy.
	They brought these guys before, and who all these, you know, these ex...
	Presidents, essentially.
	They ran a government.
	They're saying, this is, of course, invalid.
	This is bull.
	I don't want to have anything to do with it.
	And meanwhile, they got the handcuffs on.
	You can complain all you want, but what are you going to do when you're in the slammer?
	But, John, forget about that.
	We have, and by the way, I'm risking my life now by quoting the United States Constitution because, you know, hey, I'm crazy.
	No person can be held without due process.
	No person can be subjected to cruel and unusual punishment.
	That's actually in the Constitution.
	Yes, but these are not persons, get it?
	Yes, the U.S. law on torture of any kind is crystal clear.
	Forbidden.
	Not even in a national emergency.
	Never can it happen.
	And then we have our President of the United States, Barack Obama, who of course is a brilliant constitutional lawyer.
	Brilliant!
	He says, you know what?
	Let's just rig the Supreme Court.
	He's got all his guys and gals in there.
	I don't know the exact...
	It's actually pretty balanced, but...
	Yeah, but...
	We don't know exactly what the discussion was that went on within the Supreme Court.
	We only know their ruling.
	Torturers are immune from prosecution, of course.
	We know that, right?
	That slipped away.
	Yep.
	They can't be sued.
	Uh...
	For anything, if you tortured, oh well, you know, whoops, no big deal.
	But now if you're not a person and you're deemed a non-person by being an enemy combatant of the state, see, it's just like the Copenhagen.
	I know how to say it now.
	The Kopenhagen.
	It's building blocks.
	That's the Danish pronunciation.
	Yeah, Kopenhagen.
	Kopenhagen.
	But the English pronunciation is Kopenhagen.
	Kopenhagen.
	I know.
	It's...
	Hi, Jim and Adam.
	About the pronunciation of the Danish capital, we, the Danes, pronounce it Kopenhagen in English and in Danish, Kopenhagen.
	Kopenhagen.
	Copenhagen.
	We got it.
	Copenhagen.
	Yeah, I think when I see it written, it's got a me in it.
	Yes, it does, because it's for haven, which would be haven, which is a port.
	So it's the buying port.
	Right.
	Buying haven.
	And, you know, a lot of the Scandinavian countries actually pronounce words two different ways in their own country.
	I mean, Gothenburg, Sweden is a good example.
	Gothenburg.
	And it's pronounced...
	There's actually three pronunciations I know of.
	One's Gothenburg, one's Gothenburg, and the other one's Gothenburg.
	Are you familiar with the Dred Scott case from 1857, John?
	Well, I'm very familiar with it, but I can't recall it.
	I was in the jury!
	Well...
	This was a ruling that people of African descent imported into the United States, held as slaves, or their descendants, whether or not they were slaves, were not protected by the Constitution and could never be citizens of the United States.
	Now, this didn't happen, obviously, but it was very similar.
	I don't know.
	Where's the reporting on this, by the way?
	You know, this happened on Monday.
	This is the Supreme Court.
	Aren't there some journalists out there whose beat it is to cover the press releases from the Supreme Court?
	You know, we're going to have to ask ourselves, at what point do we just stop slamming the media for incompetence?
	I think we have to continue doing it.
	No, no, I'm just saying, because it's just like, why bother asking?
	To remind people that it's actually taking place, that there is no reporting.
	You have to remind people.
	Boy, I mean, just like, how much do you have to remind them?
	Nobody seems to be paying any attention.
	And the media themselves now do the same thing.
	They kind of remind themselves, well, we suck.
	I mean, if you haven't been listening to the talk shows, they all go on about, yeah, we're not doing a very good job.
	And then I'm sure you...
	I'll just get my annoyances out of the way right at the top.
	I'm sure you heard about the...
	God, I just lost it.
	I'm sorry.
	What the hell was I going to say?
	Some other annoyance.
	I got it, I got it, I got it.
	No, it's about Interpol.
	I'm sure you blogged this, didn't you?
	I don't know.
	I tell you what it is.
	There's a lot of Interpol stories.
	Okay.
	So there was an executive order that came out just a few days ago.
	Executive Order 12425.
	By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution of the Laws of the United States of America, including Section 1 of the International Organization's Immunities Act, blah, blah, blah.
	And in order to extend the appropriate privileges, exemptions, and immunities to the International Criminal Police Organization...
	Better known as Interpol.
	It is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12425, June 16, 1983, is amended, is further amended, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	So, of course, the press, I will harp on it one more time, like, oh, man, I gotta go look up, oh, don't tell me I have to look up the Executive Order from June 16, 1983, Section 2C, Section 3456 of the Act.
	I mean, that would be work.
	I've got Christmas to do.
	Come on, I got some shopping here.
	I got some shit from China I gotta pick up.
	Actually, on the RonPaulForums.com, they really extrapolated it nicely and went to the 1983 executive order, which was signed, of course, by Reagan.
	I'll just cut straight to the chase.
	This gives Interpol complete immunity in the United States.
	If Interpol agents enter the United States, they cannot be searched, cannot be questioned, their baggage cannot be searched.
	All of their buildings, archives, files, anything that are in the United States are not subject to the U.S. laws.
	They have complete immunity.
	Interpol.
	So now we've got the global cops who can do anything they want in the United States.
	Anything.
	And this just kind of slips in there.
	You know, it's on the White House website, whitehouse.gov.
	It's right there, executive order.
	But you have to actually do some work, like Google the other executive orders.
	So if an Interpol, rogue Interpol officer still working for the agency comes over and just starts shooting up the place.
	Immunity.
	Total immunity.
	They can't be arrested, can't be searched, nothing can be...
	The feds in the US can't even enter their property.
	They can't even go and search their buildings or their apartments where they're staying.
	And why?
	You know, I see no other reason than just to give them complete free reign.
	I mean, are these the guys that are going to disappear me when I'm a non-person?
	You'll never hear from me.
	One day you'll just say, I'm not going to hear from me again.
	You'll be like, hey, is the stream up yet?
	Hit it, hit it, hit it, hit it.
	I just won't be here.
	I'm just going to disappear.
	Well, I think, you know, they could probably come over here and then grab people then.
	It's like bounty hunters, international bounty hunters.
	Why don't they come over here and grab Cheney and haul him back to the Hague?
	Well, you know, you can't be pissed off about one and then, you know, say yay for the other.
	That would still be wrong, even if I think it would be a good idea.
	It's just wrong.
	This is...
	I don't know what's happened.
	And, you know, and...
	And people say, oh, you're a conspiracy theorist.
	Well, come up with one other reason why this is being done.
	Perhaps the Ministry of Truth could give us a reason.
	Maybe someone could ask Robert Gibbs on Monday, you know.
	So, Mr.
	Gibbs, could you please tell us why people can now be deemed a non-person and therefore just removed and nothing would ever be heard from them further, and Interpol has the right to do that now if we ask them to?
	Could you just answer that question for me, Mr.
	Gibbs?
	What is the White House opinion?
	What is the president's opinion on that?
	That's bad.
	Yeah.
	Thank you.
	And I'm amazed that you hadn't heard of this yet.
	No, I'm not keeping up, apparently.
	Okay, so all the links to this are in the show notes.
	There's not a lot of media coverage of these things, so if it wasn't for you and me looking at the stuff in the background...
	Our listeners wouldn't know about it either.
	I don't think there's any media coverage on this.
	What has the media coverage been today?
	Let's see.
	We have...
	I kind of like this one.
	The BBC in Gitmo Nation East.
	You know, every single year...
	And this has been really important.
	It used to be even more important when it was Cliff Richard.
	But every year it's like, who's going to be the Christmas number one on the charts?
	And it was typically Cliff Richard with some like, you know, praise the Lord, hallelujah song.
	And it would get played over and over again, and then that changed a little bit when it was band-aid, do they know it's Christmas time.
	And it's huge, you know.
	The United Kingdom still has 60 million people living there, so it's like a big sale, and it's based upon sales.
	So there's this, I think, husband and wife team.
	They've been kind of jacking charts for a while.
	And they started a Facebook group.
	And the whole idea was to not let the winner of the X Factor, which has been the Christmas number one for the past four years running...
	Simon Cowell is smart.
	He times the show just up to Christmas so that the person who wins the X Factor then almost automatically becomes the Christmas number one.
	That's good for half a million single sales right there.
	So they went against it and said, hey, we've all got to not let that happen, so let's vote for this song, which is Killing in the Name of, done by Rage Against the Machine, a song from 1992, which is just a killer track.
	It's like an anthem for a generation.
	And they did it.
	And of course, you can't play the song in the BBC because it has F-bombs all over it.
	So that's media distraction number one.
	Well, there's also tracking Santa.
	We have to have that all the time.
	Oh, yes.
	Oh, yeah.
	Hey, let's all report on Santa's progress.
	What's this little thing in the Supreme Court?
	Who cares?
	We've got Santa on radar.
	Yeah.
	And then we have the health...
	I want to get into the health care debate in a little while because I have a completely different take on it based on listening to left-wing talk radio.
	Well, let's get right into it then.
	Well, let me start by going on with what might be happening with the health care debate.
	In fact, the whole thing is probably a crock.
	Now, of course, the Senate approved the bill early this morning.
	Yeah, and that bill is, let's take it from the perspective that both these bills, the House and the Senate bills, have got nothing to do with anything, and this is the reason why they can be 1,400 pages long, because until it goes back to make a consolidated bill, nothing will come of it.
	You don't need to read this stuff, because it's not going to be the final, but this is all window dressing for the benefit of the various congressmen and representatives.
	So just for the benefit of the producers who do not live in Gibbon Nation West in the United States, so we've had a bill that went through the House of Representatives, was passed, and now we have a bill that's gone through, which is similar yet different, and boy, there are some different things in the bill that went through the Senate.
	Now these two have to come together in committee.
	Which is supposedly going to be on C-SPAN, but that's what the President promised.
	Somehow I doubt that.
	So far a lot of backroom dealing has been going on.
	Then these two have to come together.
	Then there's a final bill, and then that goes...
	Does that go to a final vote, or does that go straight to certain?
	Yeah, they all vote on it again.
	But this is kind of explained, but I want people to kind of get an inkling of where this might be headed by introducing a new character to the show.
	Ah!
	Since we talk about Rush Limbaugh, and we talk about Glenn Beck, and we talk about all these people, and Rachel Maddow, and the guy with that big head.
	Yeah, that guy.
	Olbermann.
	And we don't talk about, if we want to take, we have to move, we have to inch further left into the real progressive talk radio guys.
	We've got to go way over to somebody who's borderline communist, and we go to Free Speech TV, and we find a guy named Tom Hartman.
	Now, Hartman's an interesting character because he is an advocate that the teabaggers get together with the extreme left because they have a common interest.
	They disagree about everything in the middle, but they agree totally with mainly stuff about our freedoms.
	And I kind of like this assertion because you're seeing more of that happen, for instance, with climate change, where they do have common ground in let's stop cap-and-trade, but everything in the middle, like the fact that it's all hooey and a lie, is kind of left out.
	But they're both on both sides.
	You and I don't want cap-and-trade, and they may believe in climate change, but they don't want cap-and-trade as a solution.
	Is that kind of the same scenario?
	Yeah.
	Exactly.
	And the one thing about these guys, these progressives at this level, they hated Clinton.
	They don't like what's called neoliberals, which are globalists.
	They're anti-global.
	They're the kind of guys who took care of that World Trade Organization meeting in Seattle.
	That's these people.
	A lot of them are anarchists.
	And I want to play two clips from this guy.
	You can find him on Free Speech TV. He hates everything.
	That anybody right of center likes.
	But he agrees with so many things.
	It makes it very interesting.
	And first I want to introduce you to him by playing the clip that we have.
	That's not the Obama clip, but it's the one called...
	Yeah, the old law.
	He's got to explain it.
	He dug up the fact that in 1954 there was a law in the books that actually was being enforced until around 1919, just before the income taxing came into being.
	And he reads this law, and he says in his commentary, which we would agree with, is that this law was still in play.
	All the problems that we're having with our Senate and Congress and the rest of them probably wouldn't be problems, but this gives you an impression of this character.
	And I am going to read this very quickly.
	This was law from the founding of this country, or shortly thereafter, in Wisconsin until finally in 1954.
	They discovered it on the books and they nuked it, but it actually was enforced up until the late 19th century.
	And this was a law that was pretty much identical to laws that were on the books in every state in the Union.
	And so this is the old Wisconsin law.
	The title, Political Contributions by Corporations.
	This is the law we need to bring back.
	No corporation doing business in this state shall pay or contribute or offer consent or agree to pay or contribute, directly or indirectly, any money, property, free service of its officers or employees or thing of value to any political party, organization, committee or individual, for any purpose whatsoever organization, committee or individual, for any purpose whatsoever or for the purpose of influencing legislation of any kind, or to promote or defeat the candidacy of any person for public office for nomination of...
	appointment or election to any political office.
	Penalty.
	Any officer, employee, agent, or attorney, or any other representative of any corporation acting for it on behalf of such corporations shall violate this act, shall be punished upon conviction by a fine of not less than $100,000 nor more than $5,000.
	And keep in mind, 200 years ago, that was a fortune.
	Or by imprisonment in the state prison for a period of not less than one nor more than five years, or both.
	Okay, so that's interesting, because I thought that, well, maybe the way they got around this was you are allowed to petition your government.
	Well, they obviously got around it in a lot of different ways, because now it's completely out of control.
	But is this still law?
	No, no, no, this law disappeared in the 50s.
	Oh, okay.
	So it would be interesting to track down the history of that and see how it got removed or changed.
	Yeah, there was probably some, you know, some skullduggery and some trickery and some, you know, people in the Congress themselves who were saying, look, we can make a lot more money.
	My wife is pointing out to me that, you know, the average net worth of a congressman is $8 million, which is not the way they began.
	Most of these guys make money once they get elected.
	Once they get in office, yeah, of course.
	Now, how does that work?
	Well, how does it work?
	Maybe we can take it to another degree, and you have to hear out this whole argument.
	But I now believe that Hartman is kind of half-stumbled onto something, not that.
	John, wait a minute.
	Hold on a second.
	Doesn't everyone know this is how it works?
	If you look at the donations that Obama received, he received all the money from the insurance companies, the majority, amongst all the candidates.
	Everything from Wall Street.
	I mean, just go look up the donations.
	It's all from big corporations.
	People don't understand this.
	No, I'm playing that clip for the reason of background on Hartman.
	We're not talking about that.
	We're talking about the health care bill.
	So now you have to plague Hartman on the health care bill, and this is what triggered my thoughts, because I'm now hearkening back on MSNBC's commentary about the price of health insurance, or the skyrocketing price of health insurance stocks.
	Stocks in particular.
	Hartman doesn't quite come up with this thought, but Hartman has the background for it.
	This is a little bit of a long clip, but he explained something, and I think he stumbled onto what's going to happen, which is why I think the health care bill, when it gets finalized by this committee, will be different, and I think Hartman may be onto something here.
	Okay, so first of all, the clip you want me to play is Hartman Conspiracy.
	That's the one you want me to play?
	Yeah.
	Okay, so let me just reiterate, because we didn't talk about this on Sunday.
	Last Friday, Wall Street closed with the insurance company stocks at a 52-year, not week, 52-year high, because they all knew that what is happening, essentially because everyone will be forced to have health insurance, these guys are going to make out like bandits.
	So now we'll see what Mr.
	Hartman had to say about it.
	Very quickly, my current conspiracy theory about the health care bill.
	And that is that because a couple of senators, most notably Feingold and Sanders, a couple of progressive senators, Feingold is a Democrat, Bernie Sanders is an independent, because they have come out and said that they think, or at least Sanders has come out and said that he thinks that the bill should be changed in conference to contain a public option.
	Knowing that when that thing comes back to the Senate with a public option in it...
	Just keep in mind, the House and Senate both vote on legislation.
	They're very different bills.
	They go to a conference committee where they get reconciled to one bill.
	That one bill then goes to the House and Senate where they both have to vote on it again.
	If it comes out of conference with a public option in it so it'll pass the House...
	It won't pass the Senate.
	Unless Barack Obama, President Obama, goes back to what he said, and here is what he said to the American people as President of the United States, as sitting President of the United States, this is what President Obama, in one of his weekly addresses, said to you and me.
	Any plan I sign must include an insurance exchange, including a public option to increase competition and keep insurance companies honest.
	There you go.
	That's the President of the United States saying any bill I sign must contain a public option.
	And so, assuming that it comes out of the conference committee that way, then one of two things is going to have to happen in the Senate.
	either joe lieberman who was told by ron emmanuel you know with a wink and a nod we don't care about the public option below it up and so joe course want to blow it up either ron emmanuel because this is the president's legacy is going to have to start twisting arms in favor of the public option that the dlc rama didn't like to begin with or Harry Reid is going to have to do the dirty work.
	But somebody's going to have to do it.
	And say to Joe, Joe, you want that committee chairmanship?
	Ben, you want any money for your re-election campaign?
	Mary Landrieu, do you want some help down in Louisiana?
	The only way you're going to get it is to sign up.
	Yeah.
	Okay, now, it gets more interesting.
	Now, let's assume, now here's the thing that I ran into, these anomalies that didn't make any sense.
	Lieberman comes out of the blue and he blows up the public option in the Senate to get this thing passed.
	You know, he comes in there and he's representing insurance companies in Connecticut.
	But at the same time, they have clip after clip after clip of him saying just the opposite some months earlier.
	So he's contradicting his own beliefs away.
	Yeah, he's flip-flopping.
	Yeah, but what was the reason for this?
	Because to assuage the insurance companies?
	And let's take on top of that this crazy thing that's happened in Nebraska, which is a nothing to see here moment.
	Don't look over here!
	Nothing to see here.
	Ooh, look at that.
	So everyone's talking about that.
	Okay, let's take a look at what happened with the stocks.
	All the insurance company stocks skyrocketed.
	So I saw on MSNBC one of the guys ranting about this, talking to Axelrod, who's now the point man for all this.
	And he's showing up all over the place and trying to say, well, as long as it gets here.
	The whole thing looks like a scheme to me to actually run up the insurance company stocks as a last ditch effort for these guys to make their money.
	Ah, and get out, right.
	And of course, everyone's seeing this.
	They're all talking about it.
	So everyone's going to buy into the insurance stocks and then, boom, the bottom falls out and everyone's short.
	All these guys on the inside have shorted it by that time.
	They make out like mega bandits.
	Well, let's take a look at what's actually been going on.
	Take a look at any of these companies.
	WellPoint, Humana, take a look at any of them.
	I have never seen so much insider selling.
	They are dumping this stuff on all directors.
	Go to any one of these websites that shows what insiders are selling the stock of their own company.
	These guys are...
	Taking out their options and they're selling, selling, selling.
	Normally, in the stock market, you always assume that when people sell stocks, you have to assume that they're just taking some profits because people do that.
	Bill Gates was selling Microsoft all the time.
	It was doubling every year.
	Because people do that.
	And the only thing you want to pay attention to as an investor is when people buy stocks.
	The insiders buy, because then they, you know, you get the sense of it.
	Yeah, they know that something's going on and it's going to go up.
	So that's why the insiders are on the inside doing it.
	So nobody pays too much attention to the selling.
	But if you start looking at these insurance companies, the selling is extreme and there's no buying.
	These guys, and here's the way we work with Lieberman.
	Lieberman says, look, the insurance company says, no, this is going to kill us, this bill, when this public option comes out.
	We're toast.
	Lieberman says, well, and of course, this conversation never took place, but it's the kind of thing that you can imagine happening in a back room.
	Here's what I'm going to do.
	I'm going to kill this part of it, and it's going to do you guys a favor.
	This will run the price of the stocks up, because what we're going to throw in here at the beginning is that people are going to have to buy.
	Insurance.
	You're going to have to buy it.
	We're going to put that into law.
	It'll get thrown out in committee because nobody's going to be against the law anyway.
	You can't...
	Somebody was talking about this on a right-wing talk show and they never made the connection between...
	You can't tell people they have to do something and then tax them if they don't.
	It's just not, it's unconstitutional.
	So anyway, so that's not going to happen, but it rammed the price of the insurance company stocks up.
	So they said, look, you guys are going to have your one shot to get out, and this is going to be it.
	This is it.
	Wow.
	So take advantage of it now.
	So they put this whole scheme together, and this harkens back to why do all these congressmen, why do they have a net worth of over $8 million?
	Because they're all on the inside trading on these stocks.
	They all know what's going on.
	They're in on the scam.
	Everything we're seeing is a scam and when this thing comes out of committee with a public option, those insurance stocks are going to fall through the floor and people are going to go, what the hell happened here?
	And it was all, you know, it's now becoming very apparent what's happening.
	And then Lieberman can go back and say, well, I tried to help you guys, but we couldn't do it.
	And you know I had to be part of a...
	If I had voted against Bill in his final form, they would have taken me off my committee, and that would have done you more harm than good.
	So don't you think I did the right thing?
	So Lieberman will...
	We're going to flip again and vote positive on this thing.
	And everybody else will fall in line.
	The Republicans are all going to just vote no because they're not even in the game.
	And that's the way it's going to end up.
	We're going to end up with, I think, Hartman's right.
	There's going to be a public option and this insurance stuff that we're all talking about spending too much time talking about is all bogus.
	And so that's why we don't care about the 1,400-page bill that comes in at the middle of the night because that's not the bill.
	It's bogus.
	And that's because I was wondering about this because...
	I was watching Meet the Press on Sunday, and so first Axelrod was on, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	And then Howard Dean was on via remote, and he actually called out David Gregory, the host of the show, and he says, and by the way, David Gregory, like that's what my mom used to say, Adam Clark Curry.
	By the way, David Gregory, you didn't mention that the insurance stocks are at a 52-year high.
	But of course, I was like, wow, NBC's letting this get on the air?
	I mean, the Obama network is letting this propagate?
	Why is that being allowed?
	This makes no sense.
	I believe that show is pre-tape, by the way.
	I don't think it's live.
	And so now I understand, because they actually want this to run up even more.
	Howard Dean could even be in the game, or he's just a tool.
	And he's just being used that way, but they let it on.
	And so, John, would you put your money on this?
	Would you put in huge put options on the insurance companies?
	Would you do that?
	Would you go so far and do that?
	Well, I can't recommend anybody doing any stock...
	No, are you going to do it personally?
	I'm going to look at all the insurance stocks and see what the puts are.
	But you know what?
	The thing is, if this game is really in play and it's already been pre-fewed out, the puts will be out of control.
	If you take a look at the puts, you go, my God, this thing has got to fall to $1.
	Can you look at that real quick?
	Can you look at the puts?
	Can you just look at, like, what was the one you mentioned?
	Well, let's look at the puts on...
	Humana is a good example.
	Okay, you look at those puts, because this is a...
	What an excellent analysis, John.
	Is this something that you and Horowitz came up with?
	No, no.
	I came up with it last night when I was listening to Hartman.
	Because as soon as he said this, and he had that Obama clip, which was done after he was a president, it just dawned on me, but this whole thing is a giant scam.
	Hartman never took it to the next level.
	That is the stock market play.
	Oh my God, it makes so much sense.
	Take a look at those puts.
	Just let me know if it's already...
	Yeah, you're right.
	And by the way, this happens all...
	For those of you who, if you've never seen 9-11 loose change, one of the interesting things that is continuously highlighted that on September 9th and September 10th, One day before 9-11-2001, the put options, i.e.
	the Wall Street gamble that a stock will nosedive on American Airlines and other aviation-related stocks, including Boeing, were ten times the normal volume.
	So, you know, with the obvious I mean, it's weird when you get the volume on put options at a 10x at any point in time, but especially one day before these stocks all tanked because of not just a humanitarian but an aviation disaster of epic proportions.
	I'm taking a look now.
	Meanwhile, while you're looking at that, John...
	Well, okay, let me just say, I can conclude something here.
	The puts have not skyrocketed.
	I think there's a few decent ones in here.
	There's a couple that are kind of weird, that are a little too overpriced, but I'm not seeing a lot of activity.
	But there is a lot of activity in the calls, which means that the game is still in play.
	So they're still running it up.
	They still expect it to run up.
	Well, of course, this is going to last throughout the new year.
	This is not actually going to come to a vote before February or March, I guess.
	It's going to take a little while now, right?
	Yeah, so if I was just looking at these things, actually, the May 10th puts for Humana are the last that are really being traded.
	There's no, like, the August, there's nothing.
	There's, like, no puts.
	And then, well, there's a January...
	Sorry, there's a January 2011...
	There's some 2011 stuff that's kind of interesting.
	Well, that would make sense that it would be around that time.
	I mean, these things do take time.
	Yeah.
	Well, you know what?
	Why don't we track this for a couple more weeks?
	I think it's fantastic that you've...
	Dude, talk about conspiracy theories.
	You are the crackpot du jour, my friend.
	Sometimes I nail it.
	This is a thesis that explains everything.
	It explains the lack of people having to read the bill.
	It explains Lieberman flip-flopping.
	It explains the Nebraska thing, because that guy can now go back and say, hey, what can I do?
	I tried.
	I almost had it for us to get free, you know, all this free stuff, but we couldn't do it.
	I mean, now they're all in with their excuses, and now they can push whatever bill they went through out of this committee.
	And it also explains why Axelrod suddenly got on the stump, because he's in charge of controlling this thing, and this is essentially...
	If you look at it and break it down, it's a Chicago pump and dump scheme taken to the limit, taken to the extreme with big public corporations.
	Wow.
	And these guys are from Chicago.
	Hey!
	Go figure.
	Wow.
	Wow, wow, wow.
	That's huge, John.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, that's really big.
	Well, I just had a little thing from the bill.
	Just a little teeny-weeny thing.
	It's a nothing to see here thing, I can assure you.
	Yeah, let me roll that over there.
	Don't look over here.
	Nothing to see here.
	Ooh, look at that.
	Hey, look at that stock.
	Don't look at the puts.
	Look at the stock.
	Look at the calls.
	Don't look at the put.
	And we can do it like a parrot.
	Look at the calls.
	Don't look at the puts.
	Look at the calls.
	Don't look at the puts.
	Section 3403 of the Senate Bill, John, this is Harry Reid's fine work.
	There's a little ditty in there that says, and I quote, And I'll tell you what that subsection is.
	It is about the Independent Medicare Advisory Board and their ability and regulatory power to reduce the per capita rate of growth in Medicare spending.
	So these independent boards, which of course are filled up with ex-pharma people, essentially get to lay down the law.
	But what the outrage is, is that there is a bill under consideration by the United States government That says in the bill, you can't ever debate this, you can't change it.
	I mean, why not just put that in every single bill?
	Yeah, this is law and you can never change it.
	This is like one of those non-disclosure agreements, which I find, I think, are unconstitutional.
	Well, isn't this unconstitutional by definition?
	It's totally unconstitutional.
	It's ridiculous.
	And you know what this will lead to?
	This will lead to...
	Because it will not put seniors in a position of being put to death by their government.
	That's what Medicare is all about.
	This is what some would call the death panels.
	I think we did this a couple months ago.
	I gave you some of the names and some of the affiliations of these independent advisory boards.
	It's all like pharma people.
	I don't want them determining your health and your health care.
	John, I love you, man.
	By the way, also with my thesis, they had to ram something through the Senate because it's never going to go to committee if they never passed it.
	That's why they all agreed to all kinds of schemes.
	If that thing never passed the Senate, then this whole scheme of putting this new stuff back in and running up the insurance companies couldn't work.
	Well, I defy anyone within the sound of my voice, and we do reach all around Gitmo Nation from west to east to down under, up until the chilly north of Gitmo Nation.
	I defy you to find this type of analysis anywhere else.
	Anywhere.
	And it's brilliant.
	I have to give you props, John, for this.
	And if you want this type of work to continue, now is the time to do something about it.
	By helping us out, by contributing to our business model.
	This is what you'd expect from the national treasure known as National Public Radio.
	That's how Janine Garofalo categorized it.
	National treasure.
	Or PBS. You won't see this on those shows.
	They will not dissect this.
	They just will not.
	And we do it.
	And we do it because, you know, John, you could have been having sex last night.
	You could have gotten hookers and blow.
	Anything you wanted.
	But no.
	What do you decide to do?
	You decide to listen to left-wing talk radio.
	And then you get onto a spark, and you were working on it up until 15 minutes past show starting time, because this is what we do.
	And by the way, this is the reason I always harp on the fact that all the left-wingers, they won't listen to Rush Limbaugh.
	There's good ideas on both sides of the aisle if you listen to both sides, but if you're going to be just a bigot, and, oh, I'm not going to listen to that guy because he's an idiot.
	You're just making a huge mistake.
	And this is the thing, I think, I pointed this out to you the other day, where there's a clip of Jon Stewart, who does a take-off on Glenn Beck that is absolutely spot-on and hilarious.
	And you listen, you see him do it, and you just see it.
	It's one of the funniest things he's ever developed, and he's becoming Glenn Beck on the screen.
	Nobody in the audience got the joke!
	Exactly.
	Because Jon Stewart's audience does not watch Glenn Beck.
	They've just heard of him.
	Yeah.
	If that.
	And this is why this program is called No Agenda, because we don't have one other than our own, which is not left, not right.
	We just call it as we see it.
	And I'll just start it off here with a quick note from Paul Schreiber, who said he was going to donate a portion of the Santa Barf iPhone app proceeds to the show.
	He says he saw a jump in sales over the weekend.
	Thank you very much, guys.
	Of course, that was...
	Because we mentioned it on this show, he sold over 1,000 copies, so we can expect a nice little donation from him.
	As of this morning, there is yet another No Agenda iPhone app.
	This one, I think, is spectacular.
	It's in the iTunes store.
	A portion of that proceeds also being donated to this show.
	If you want the alt, so far I think this is the ultimate, I love everybody's work, but this is the ultimate app.
	It has every show, every episode going back to December 13, 2007 when the very first show aired.
	It has all the show notes.
	It has sound boards in there.
	So you can actually walk around and play little clips of some of our jingles, of course, but even better, I'd have to say, are some of the buzzkills.
	So there's like a whole screen here with John's head, and you click on John's head here, and let me see if I can...
	It has to load up for a second.
	And it's got all of your little quotes, and it seems like there's going to be updates because there's room for more.
	And it also has the stream.
	It's got...
	I mean, just everything.
	Anything you'd want in an iPhone app for No Agenda is here.
	I don't know.
	Why is that not...
	Oh, maybe I have to turn it off of silent.
	There we go.
	Boy, Adam, that's unbelievable!
	I know why people love this show.
	possibly I'm skeptical I'm skeptical I don't have to do this show anymore No, no, you don't have to show up.
	I can just plug this into the board and good to go.
	Do you want to name some people that donated this week?
	Yes, please.
	First, of course, we do have our top executive producer, Sander Hoeksbergen.
	Hoeksbergen.
	Hoeksbergen from Zandam, Netherlands.
	Zandam.
	And then we have Eon Monroe who gave us $150 from Apo.
	Well, he says Apo A-E, which would be Arab Emirates, but then it says United States.
	Oh, A-P-O? I don't know.
	Anyway, Eon, thanks.
	I don't know what that is.
	Maybe he's military.
	I can't tell.
	There's no note.
	Then John Winiarski we mentioned earlier, $2,34, $56.
	And then we have...
	Yeah, brother.
	Shane Brady, Plattsburgh, Missouri, who gave us one, two, three, one, two, five, two, four.
	Nice.
	No explanation.
	Then we also move on to our Vmedio person, Maria, for Rudolph Stratt, 250.
	And then we have John Odom.
	From Houston, and he...
	I have no idea.
	Oh, he's $53.77, but he had a note.
	And this was kind of interesting.
	This is $50 plus a $3.77 tip.
	I wanted to clear the remaining balance of a gift card.
	Ah!
	He also found $5.95, which was the remaining balance on his unemployment debit card.
	Excellent.
	Excellent.
	Thank you.
	Because he's got a job now, and he figures, what else am I going to do with this?
	Oh, nice.
	Thank you.
	That's appreciated.
	And then we have Luca Capodoro, who's from Milano.
	He's, I think, given us money before.
	And he said, $120.
	He said, Adam said, buy me more time with this.
	I'm buying you two hours at $124,800 a year.
	Not a Goldman Sachs salary, but hey, you're not bankers and I'm not Uncle Ben.
	He says you can practice the Al Gore poem.
	And he says if you get bored during rehearsals, you can use up to half an hour of his paid-for money for hookers.
	Oh, excellent!
	Michael Kingery, $250 you mentioned earlier.
	I'm sorry, that's Julie Lee.
	And she gave us $250 for Brandon.
	Her husband's not getting a birthday wish.
	And Michael Kingery was in for $50, but he wanted to...
	He's working on a thing called Battle Bears.
	He's an iPhone game company guy, so look for Battle Bears and check it out.
	And Rob Seelock 251 from Cochrane, Alberta, as we mentioned before.
	And he says...
	He doesn't say anything, actually.
	Then we have...
	This is kind of confusing because people are sending in a lot of notes now, so I'm having to cut and paste a lot of things.
	Then we have XESS Corp.
	And I don't have his name, but he says, Thanks for doing God's work along with Lloyd Blankfein.
	Well, this is God's work.
	This is a Goldman Sachs guy who said that they were doing God's work.
	Oh, that's what it is.
	That's the reference.
	David Schneider, $100.
	Alpha Line Corporation in Schutern, Germany.
	This is actually Michael Block, $102.
	And this is SCHLU, umlaut U. C-H-T-E-R-N, which I think is shloosh turn.
	If I'm not mistaken.
	I'm not even going to try and correct you on that one.
	What else would it be besides shloosh turn?
	Yeah, sure.
	$100 from David Jardine, $104 from Will Erickson, and then I'll just mention the $50 from a number of people.
	Again, we have Vincent Dunstan and Daniel Kepler, and...
	I double-spaced everything.
	Gordon Walton, Austin, Texas, and Chris McElhatton, and I mentioned John Odom already.
	And finally...
	Yeah.
	You know, you took an extra 15 minutes to get all this together, and listen to what kind of job you're doing.
	You know, I don't understand the problem.
	This is all you have to do.
	All you have to do is bring some clips, show up, and do this, and you never get it right!
	Never!
	Doty and Will Erickson, thank you, guys.
	No, the problem is these all came in at the last second, just before the show was...
	You know, I was supposed to go and do the show, and it's like all these...
	Yeah...
	Yeah.
	Well, anyway, ladies and gentlemen, in case you were wondering what the formula is for this program, it's simple.
	Our formula is this.
	We go out, we hit people in the mouth.
	And it doesn't matter if we hit him with a left or a right hook.
	We just hit him in the mouth.
	And go to NoAgendaShow.com and DeMarc.org slash NA. And remember, when you're thinking, hey, you know, what should I do with my money if I'm going to give it away to something or someone?
	Look at the work.
	Look at the results.
	Look at what you're getting.
	Listen to that.
	Go back and listen to this theory that John just laid out on you, which I think has a huge amount of credibility.
	And, by the way, talking about giving us some support, sometimes we kind of slam PBS for the kind of sleazy, taking money from people and taking commercial advertising.
	They just, this last week, and ask yourself why, signed up to be one of the Nielsen clients so they would have ratings.
	Wait a minute.
	So the way that works with Nielsen is you get ratings, and based upon the ratings, you can raise the price of advertising.
	Do they do advertising, John?
	Am I confused?
	Do they advertise on PBS? I know on NPR they do because the woman who runs it said so.
	Let's listen to her one more time.
	This is the chairwoman, right?
	Okay, moving on to money.
	How are NPR's corporate underwriting revenues holding up in the recession?
	And what about foundation grants?
	Two different stories.
	Underwriting is down.
	It's down for everybody.
	I mean, this is the area that is most down for us, is in sponsorship, underwriting, advertising, call it whatever you want.
	Ah, okay.
	All right, we'll just call it advertising.
	We don't take ads because it would interrupt the flow of the show, and this is the main reason we need your support.
	We don't want to be jacking away.
	In fact, the Tom Hartman show, which we introduced earlier, is extremely annoying because he will have somebody on a really good conversation, but he has to take a commercial break.
	Got a break.
	Got a break.
	That's right.
	And he's making these breaks constantly, and it just ruins the pacing and flow of the show.
	And it's like, you just turn...
	And, you know, it's just...
	And not only that, but he's going to get limited eventually by what he can say based upon the people who are sponsoring his show.
	That's certainly the case for NPR who take advertising.
	And that's why we don't do it.
	Not just for the flow, but we also want to be completely free and clear to speak our minds without having to have those media filters on.
	Like, oh, I can't say this.
	I can't say that.
	Oh, if I say this, oh, you know, it'll piss off that person.
	We just can't do it.
	So, now, that said, by the way, it's dvorak.org.
	Or noagendashow.com.
	That said, it doesn't mean we don't run ads to ridicule.
	Oh, yes.
	No, we actually love to ridicule.
	And I have one this week because we haven't done one of these, one of our drug ads for a while.
	This doesn't set any records by any means where you have like, you know, 10 seconds of promotion and then, you know, two minutes of disclaimers.
	This one here is a very short, tight commercial where the disclaimers kind of worked in almost as a benefit.
	In other words, and boy, this stuff will do you a lot of good and you'll get sick as a dog.
	And by the way, you'll probably die.
	And they do it in a very kind of an upbeat way.
	I thought this was quite unusual.
	But it also begs the question, because if they talk about it, apparently you take this stuff as a shot you get once a month.
	Maybe you have to get it from your doctor.
	Let me just remind the audience, for those of you who are new, we have asserted for quite a while, and this is actual studies have proven that Like on the cigarette packs, when you put huge warnings on it that say, you know, hey, this will kill you, smoking causes, you know, you can't have ejaculations, you won't make babies, you'll get lung cancer, you'll die.
	The bigger those warnings, the more they sell.
	People actually, for some crazy twisted reason, like it when there's all these nasty side effects like death.
	And it works as a marketing tool.
	So this is why you see...
	Only seconds or a small portion of an ad which is the benefits and then the rest is all disclaimers because that's actually the piece that's selling you on the product.
	This is our own crazy minds at work.
	Now, the thing that's funny about this stuff, which is called, I think, Symbone?
	Symbone?
	Symbone?
	Is that I don't, I'd like to, somebody explained to me how any drug that you take all of a sudden makes you susceptible to funguses.
	There's a fungus among us.
	I mean, it makes you sound like you're going to take this stuff and the next thing you know you're going to be covered with mushrooms.
	Yeah.
	It's disgusting to even consider.
	Let's listen.
	Where are people with moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis going?
	They're discovering the first self-injectable RA medicine you take just once a month.
	It's symphony.
	And taken with methotrexate, it helps relieve the pain, stiffness, and swelling of RA with one dose a month.
	Visit 4sympony.com to see if you qualify for a full year of cost support.
	Symfony can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis.
	Serious and sometimes fatal events can occur, such as infections, cancer in children and adults, heart failure, nervous system disorders, liver or blood problems, and allergic reactions.
	Before starting Symfony, your doctor should test you for TB and assess your risk of infections, including fungal infections and hepatitis B. Ask your doctor if you've been to a region where certain fungal infections are common.
	Tell your doctor if you're prone to infections or develop symptoms such as fever, fatigue, cough, or sores.
	You should not start Symphony if you have an infection.
	Ask your rheumatologist about Symphony.
	Just one dose once a month.
	You know, can I make an assertion here, John?
	That's fantastic.
	I love the intonation.
	Hey, you know, you can get fungal infection.
	Hey, it's cool.
	It's awesome.
	I'm not actually sure, based on our own theories, that that's an effective mechanism for getting people to buy the product.
	No, I think they're not saying it in a scary enough voice.
	I will say that the illegal drug trades, of course, this is the legal drug pushers.
	The illegal drug pushers are catching on to this concept.
	And they've now said, you know what?
	These legal guys, man, they're really moving ahead and people are buying their shit.
	We've got to keep our sales up.
	What can we do?
	Well, we can't really put big warning labels on packaging.
	I'll tell you what.
	why don't we put some deworming medicine into the coke and have people die from it and shit.
	Yeah, that's a good idea.
	Let's do that!
	And lo and behold, in a recent report from the CDC, who apparently regularly tests the quality of our coke...
	As well they should.
	Yes.
	Have said, hey, you know, there's something really weird going on here.
	69% of cocaine shipments, and by the way, I love the exact number.
	Apparently they know every cocaine shipment there is.
	69% of all cocaine shipments seized as of July 2009 contained Levimisole, which is a deworming drug.
	And, of course, you take into account that this was one of the drugs that was found, I think, in DJAM's body after his toxicology report.
	So he snorted some of the stuff.
	This is great advertising.
	Hey, our shit's now actually dangerous, too.
	Snort up, kids!
	Yay!
	You know, this story is one of the more baffling ones I've ever heard.
	I think they're honestly trying to get people off.
	I honestly believe the drug cartels are trying to get people, or at least the American ones, are trying to get people off of cocaine and onto heroin.
	I could not disagree more, John.
	And that's why, you know, we've got to get that heroin crop in.
	Well, that's true.
	But it's the same people running the drugs in.
	I mean, look, they know exactly how many shipments.
	The DEA said, hey, 69% of everything we track.
	69% is a pretty precise number.
	Exactly.
	Of all cocaine shipments, so they know what's coming in.
	69, not 70, not 68?
	Not kind of like, about, more or less.
	No, 69%.
	Because they're shipping it in themselves.
	So I think it's just the underground drug industry is saying, hey, you know what?
	Hey, guys, how's that?
	They probably have a conference somewhere in Vegas with the drug marketers.
	And you've got the Simboni drug guys saying, hey, you know what's really working for us?
	You know, telling people this shit will kill you.
	Oh, wow.
	That's good.
	Let's do that, too.
	If anybody watched this series, one of the probably the best things ever put on television, The Wire, they had these drug guys actually having these kinds of meetings.
	And look, they can't run ads for deworming cocaine on television, so they've got to get a press release out there.
	So they go straight to the Ministry of Truth, and they talk to the CDC, and they say, oh yeah, we'll do a little report on that.
	And then the DEA says, hey, by the way, I've got some cool stats for you.
	That always works in a press release.
	Turns out 69% of the shit we're bringing in, I mean, is coming in, is laced with it.
	I'm telling you, John, this is marketing.
	This is great marketing.
	Yeah, it's pretty good marketing.
	Well, you know, we'll see how it works out for him.
	I wouldn't touch something like that with a 1,000-foot pole.
	So, by the way, we've got a couple of leftover clips here.
	There's another topic I just want to get into before we start to wrap, which is a ways off, I think.
	No, we probably have about 20 minutes.
	I have a small energy problem.
	Are we going to die on the little microphone?
	It is possible.
	So should that happen, then there's two things I can do.
	What I'd like to do, it'll take me five minutes to go get a new battery, but it might last throughout the next half hour.
	Okay.
	Because I'd hate to not get to all of the bits just before Christmas, because I want to put everyone in a nice, cheery mood.
	I want everyone to feel good about what's happening in the world.
	And are we going to play a Christmas song at the end?
	Yeah, why did you cheat?
	Well, yeah, we can.
	My wife came up with that one.
	Yeah, we'll play that one.
	She thought it was funny.
	I haven't heard it.
	If I run out of battery juice, I'll start it, and then I'll run out and get a battery.
	Oh, that's a thought.
	Yeah.
	All right, so let's play.
	This story's been here and there, and it's kind of bothering me.
	And I want you to, I got a three-parter here There are three little clips.
	It's called Army Policy.
	This is in the news around here, and I want to play these and discuss it a little bit.
	Try Army Policy 1.
	Good evening, I'm Ken Bastida.
	The holidays can be a difficult time for those in the military, but for one young enlisted mother, she says the Army gave her an unimaginable ultimatum, her child for Afghanistan.
	And as Robert Lyles shows us, while her Christmas wish came true, her struggle isn't over.
	It's great.
	I mean, I've never been without him longer than a day.
	So it just, it hurt me.
	It hurt me a lot to not have my baby.
	The last time Army Specialist Alexis Hutchinson saw her son Kamani, he was just nine months old, separated by 3,000 miles in an Army jail cell.
	So it's my first Christmas with my baby being here and...
	Wait a minute.
	He's in the slammer?
	No, she was in the slammer because she wouldn't deploy to Afghanistan.
	She said she had this kid that she had to take care of and there was no alternative services.
	Nobody could take care of it.
	So the army said, screw you.
	Get it.
	You're going into jail.
	And they said they don't believe her.
	Well, play clip two is a little explanation here, I think.
	Okay, here we go.
	Not get on the plane.
	I knew that I didn't get on the plane and I know how serious that is for military people to deploy, but my whole thing was my child.
	I want my child to be safe.
	I don't want my child to be in some stranger's hands.
	That was really the only thing that I cared about, was him.
	Alright.
	Now, the question I'm going to start asking here is, what happened to the, even in World War II, and remember the movie Saving Private Ryan?
	Yes, of course.
	These were, you know, sole survivors, one kid, you know, I mean, there was all these rules about who could go to, you couldn't even have people working together in the same factory.
	There's all these rules.
	They said that this woman was lying to them and kind of said that she probably didn't even have a kid.
	Of course, they could have checked with the fact that the kid was sent to foster care.
	This kid's like a little one-year-old.
	We sent to foster care, because they had to ship her for another round of whatever she does in Afghanistan, because it's more important than the kids, showing what we have as our priorities.
	Obviously, a single mom and a kid, priorities, screw you!
	Get to work on another one of these tours.
	Let's play the third clip, and then I asked more questions along these lines.
	That decision immediately landed Hutchinson in the brig and Kamani was on his way to state foster care.
	I told them I had no one to take care of my child and they just kept telling me that they did not believe me.
	They thought that I was lying.
	Hutchinson is not alone.
	CBS News has uncovered a growing number of single military parents forced to choose between deployment and their child.
	I feel that I'm being put in the same category as an unfit mother.
	Lieutenant Colonel Vanessa Benson lost custody of her son to her ex-husband while deployed in Afghanistan.
	So now an Ohio congressman wants to stop that by passing a new law.
	These people are not leaving their families or their children to go off to someplace to find themselves.
	They are serving their country.
	This is wrong.
	It's just wrong.
	This one woman is a lieutenant colonel and she basically lost her kid.
	Would somebody in the military explain when these policies came along?
	Because even during World War II, Families were kept together.
	There was all these rules about you can't send somebody to this to fight.
	If they're the sole survivor, for example, sole surviving son was a good example of people that couldn't do this.
	And, of course, they didn't have women at all in the Army and Navy back then.
	And these are all women that are getting screwed over.
	It's almost like, you know, you joined it, you know, you shouldn't have babies kind of policy.
	I think this is sickening.
	And the guy that's trying to overturn us, by the way, is a Republican.
	There's no Democrats speaking out for these women.
	Yeah, we didn't talk about this on...
	It's the Democrats who wanted these women in the Army in the first place, right?
	We didn't talk about...
	Yeah, exactly.
	Equal rights.
	We didn't talk about this on the last show, but the U.S. military has now forbidden any service personnel on active duty to become pregnant.
	It's forbidden.
	Yeah, well, how do you do that?
	How do you forbid something that just happens?
	Well, you get court-martialed if you actually become pregnant.
	That's my understanding.
	This seems like a misogynist kind of policy that stems from the equal rights taken to an extreme.
	Oh, you want your equal rights?
	Okay, we'll give you equal rights.
	Instead of accommodating the realities of the situation, you take it to an extreme and make everybody miserable because you personally, head of the army, whoever you are, the secretary of defense, I don't know.
	Because you don't like it, you're going to make their lives miserable and screw them over as best you can.
	And this is what it sounds like is going on to me.
	Yeah, that's real nice.
	That's real nice.
	And for a bogus war, that makes it even sillier.
	Mr.
	Gibbs, could you please give us the President's opinion on this?
	Thank you.
	Anyway, that's my pet peeve of the day.
	Oh, well, I wish you had told me earlier.
	Nah.
	No, I think it's important when you say these things.
	So, you know, I've seen...
	I just found it abhorrent.
	I am someone who is of the conviction that it is not a good idea to put chemicals into our drinking water.
	I don't drink water anymore from the tap.
	I haven't done so for a long time, and I probably feel better for it.
	You probably.
	I do not agree with the four parts per million Of fluoride, which I believe is actually sodium fluoride that is being added to water supplies everywhere.
	It's not just the United States.
	This happens in Gitmo Nation East as well.
	And just as a little background, So fluoride, and John, jump in at any time because you, of course, have been a chemical engineer.
	Fluoride is a byproduct of the creation of aluminum, or aluminum, as you might say.
	And this was a big problem at the beginning of the industrial age where aluminum was being created And this waste product, fluoride, had to go somewhere and it went into the air.
	In fact, there was a very well-known case in Belgium where 60 people died because some fluoride was released into the air.
	And so the EPA, or at the time, I think it was probably Health and Human Services in the States, there was even a different organization within government that started to regulate this.
	Now, of course, another way that this stuff is disposed of is in water.
	And so, you know, what better way than, you know, well, we've got to get rid of this stuff.
	We can't throw it into the air.
	Well, if we just put it into the water and tell everyone it's good for your teeth, then maybe we're on to something here.
	So, at the time, and I think this is the 50s, There was a guy who was the head of Alcoa.
	He was the chairman of Alcoa.
	What was his name here?
	It'll come to me in a second.
	He subsequently, oh yeah, Oscar Ewing.
	He was actually the lead counsel for Alcoa.
	He then went into the government and he became the head of some environmental department.
	And he then, you know, there's this huge campaign.
	Of course, there was no agenda around at the time where we would have been all over it.
	He came up with this huge campaign.
	Oh, it's good for your teeth.
	And by the way, too much fluoride actually makes your teeth, you know, brown.
	And your teeth can become, you know, they can break, snap right off.
	So wasn't there something called like the Denver stain or the Colorado stain a while back, John?
	No, I haven't paid much attention to the fluoride thing.
	But yeah, it does stain your teeth.
	Yeah, they were putting too much in the water.
	So it's all under the guise, look, if I want fluoride on my teeth, I can get it from my dentist.
	I don't think the government should be putting it into my water.
	It's also a well-known fact that this was used by the Nazis as well as by the CIA. In fact, it's in the book, the CIA, what's that book written by the New York Times author that we've discussed?
	Legacy of Ashes.
	It's in the book where the CIA would over-fluoridate Camp's drinking water supply to make everyone kind of subdued and kind of calm and then they could go in and grab the guns or whatever they needed.
	So the exact same scenario is now playing out with lithium.
	Yeah, I noticed the lithium thing.
	A little background on lithium.
	The idea of lithium in the water stems from the fact that there was a couple of counties in Texas in the 60s that were discovered to have a ridiculously low rate of mental illness.
	Yeah, and suicides.
	Low suicide rates.
	Low suicide, low mental illness.
	And they tried to figure out what it was and determined it was a high lithium content of the water.
	And of course lithium, I think it was after this, it was determined that lithium in high doses could be used to subdue bipolar issues.
	Although it tends to make people sleep a lot.
	And so now somebody came up with the idea of just dumping lithium everywhere.
	Well, the Japanese have done a couple studies.
	I think it's to sedate the country.
	Well, of course it is.
	This is exactly what it's for.
	If you ever listen to Nirvana's song, Lithium, then you'll understand that it is a psychedelic drug.
	It makes you lethargic, makes you calmed.
	And yeah, you don't want to...
	Well, gee, I don't know.
	I think Kurt Cobain actually tried some lithium and look where he wound up.
	We'll have a disclaimer eventually.
	Lithium could enhance your thoughts of suicide.
	If you're thinking of suicide, give your doctor a call.
	But the same industrial bullshit is now being cooked up.
	By the way, on all these drug things, does anybody out there have a doctor that you can just call?
	Yeah, really.
	You call up, you get a machine, you got an emergency, call 911.
	Yeah.
	I don't know if anybody could just call their doctor.
	So, lithium is a byproduct of, I believe, car batteries.
	And...
	Well, no.
	Car batteries are not lithium.
	Car batteries are lead-acid, period.
	I'm sorry.
	Isn't that the new green batteries?
	No, it'd be the lithium-ion batteries and the lithium batteries.
	There would be a lot of lithium left.
	In fact, I'm surprised.
	I don't think they need to do this because there's all the people throwing away all these lithium batteries because nobody pays attention to doing it the right way.
	Properly.
	It's going to be in the water supply anyway.
	I think this is kind of a pre-brainwashing to the fact that we're going to have tons of lithium in our water once these batteries start breaking down in the garbage dumps.
	Okay, so the Renault Nissan plant in Tennessee...
	Which will be supplying all of these lithium-ion batteries to North America.
	And there's another one in Portugal, which of course will supply all batteries to Europe.
	And then there's another plant in Japan.
	So these guys have got to get rid of their industrial lithium.
	They've got leakage all over the place.
	And now, oh yes, of course it happens.
	The EPA is now going to regulate how much lithium is safe to be in your water.
	I would say zero lithium is safe to be in my water.
	But no, now they've actually come out for the first time ever, and they're coming out with a list of pharmaceuticals in the water that they're going to regulate, i.e., they're going to allow it.
	Take into account that we know through the Nations of the Sea Act, I think that's what it was called, that the United States now owns all water, all water, I believe the next logical step is, here's the only water you're allowed to drink.
	You can drink this water.
	It's approved.
	We've checked the lithium content.
	It's okay.
	It's good for you.
	You'll like it.
	If you feel suicidal, call your doctor.
	So, this is a problem that nobody knows what to do about, by the way.
	In other words, people flush drugs down the toilet and all these other...
	But see, that doesn't make sense to me.
	I mean, is the water I poop in, does that automatically show up in the water I drink?
	How does that work?
	Yeah.
	Nice!
	I mean, at some point, a lot of this garbage that we're dumping, throwing out, and especially they're worried about antibiotics sneaking in the water, because they can't filter this stuff out.
	It goes into a reservoir, you know, it goes through the normal process of filtration, natural filtration, when it, you know, either, you know, it comes down through a mountain or it picks up, you know, some, it goes through a natural filtering system when it comes down from the mountain and goes into the big reservoir.
	But there's so much garbage that is being kind of dumped all over the place that is getting picked up in the process.
	And they're talking about antibiotics and crazy drugs and everything in between, which you don't need that much of, by the way, that there's minute traces of weird stuff in the water that they can't filter out.
	out and it can't you know you can make water safe by just you know either oxygenating it with oh three or by you know chlorinating it which god knows what that's going to do to some of these chemicals uh it's the water situation is a disaster from contamination so my assertion here just to wrap this bit up is that just like fluoride it's going to be deemed as oh we can't help it we're going to regulate it we'll check it for you we'll
	But in the meantime, the government actually wants lithium in our water to keep us calm and in line.
	Docile, thank you.
	Keep us in line with the program.
	Gee, I haven't seen that on the news.
	Well, I don't think anyone's going to report that ever.
	I've heard a lot of reports about the contaminated water, but...
	Well, I'm drinking it out of bottles, and of course it has its own problems, I know.
	Why don't you just urinate in my mouth?
	You know, the thing is you could just collect rainwater.
	You got a pretty good shot at some pure product, but that's actually illegal in many areas of the country.
	You can't collect rainwater?
	Of course, it belongs to the government.
	It's not your water to collect.
	No, and the rationale, there was a couple of blog posts on this.
	There's, I think, you know, people, I mean, a lot of the greenies say, oh, you know, just recycle the water and the rainwater, save a bucket of water when it rains and all the rest of it.
	They have, there's, apparently, the way they, the argument is that we, to coordinate the water reservoirs and to make sure that the farmers get enough and everybody does their thing, we are calculating the rain washing off and going into the Rivers and lakes, and by putting up a barrel and collecting this water, you're screwing up the calculation, so they made it illegal.
	It's illegal in most places.
	You know, like, why don't we have houses, for example, in Texas?
	Texas has a dry, pretty much a 24-7 drought most of the year, and it pours like a son of a gun, and, you know, they have floods.
	Well, if you've ever been to Bermuda, you'll know that there's no source of water there, because out in the middle of the ocean, there's nothing, there's no wells you can drill.
	And so every house in Bermuda has this weird limestone roof.
	They're all, it's very pretty, they're all white, and they're all designed to have a cistern.
	Yeah, we Yeah, it rains and rains and rains on Bermuda.
	The water comes off the roof, and it all gets funneled into one thing, which is a cistern in your basement.
	Is there any way to filter your topwater, John, to get the lithium and the fluoride out?
	I don't think so.
	That's the problem.
	You can filter out bacteria and things with a Brita.
	And make the water taste a little better.
	But I don't think it does anything for drugs that are dissolved in the water.
	But anyway, if you have these ideas, why doesn't Texas set up shop like Bermuda?
	Because they want you to drink the drugs.
	Why are you asking me these questions?
	Isn't it painfully obvious?
	Please take the fluoride.
	Please take the lithium.
	Shut up, slave.
	And don't look over here.
	Just look at Tiger Woods.
	It's all good.
	We're happy!
	Anyway.
	That's why.
	That's the answer why.
	It could be.
	Let me just do one real quickie here.
	To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gate.
	So the climate gate is pretty much played out, I'd say, right now, except for some interesting things that are taking place.
	Because the, even though Copenhagen, As we pronounce it correctly, Kopenhagen, kind of didn't work.
	At least it's now being called a failure, and I have to question the way these reports are being brought to us.
	I'm just too tired for that even.
	I am.
	It's just like, okay, I'll probably figure it out why they've come up with this.
	Shoot, now of course I want to play this YouTube clip.
	I'll see if it'll load in a second.
	For some reason it's not.
	The education...
	That is going into the next generation.
	Because these guys, you know, they build all these blocks and we know at the end of the day it's all just to get a world government and, you know, to have you all feel and think that, you know, nothing's ever going to work.
	Climate change is going to kill us no matter what.
	And that will be used in the future.
	The next generation.
	Who knows if there will be another no agenda show that can warn the kids.
	But now you, you know this company Build-A-Bear?
	Are you familiar with that?
	Yeah, we blogged actually the three cartoons that they produced.
	Yeah, so this is an uplifting Christmas adventure from the Build-A-Bear Corporation.
	And so they have this, I mean, it's a beautifully done, beautifully animated three, is it three-part series?
	Is that what it is?
	I think it was supposed to be more, but the fourth one I realized was taken off, and I don't know what was on that one.
	Okay.
	So just listen to a little bit of what our kids are being taught here.
	Actually, I'll fast forward.
	So it's Santa and Mrs.
	Claus.
	They're up at the North Pole.
	And then we see the nice little polar bears.
	And they're having fun.
	They're romping around.
	And then they come up and they talk to Santa.
	And here's what they have to say.
	Uh-oh.
	Ho, ho, ho, ho.
	Hello there.
	What fine-looking polar bears.
	Hello.
	Pleased to meet you, Santa.
	I'm Ella.
	Oh, and this is my sister, Ella.
	Santa, it's gone!
	Gone!
	It's gone!
	What's gone?
	Tell him, Dad.
	The North Peak.
	A mountain?
	A mountain is gone?
	How is that possible?
	Santa, sir, that's why I'm here.
	That's why we're here.
	The ice is melting.
	The North Pole is melting.
	Yes, my dear.
	We know.
	The climate is changing.
	There's bound to be a little melting.
	It's worse than that, Santa.
	A lot worse.
	At the rate it's melting, the North Pole will be gone by Christmas.
	My, my.
	All of this gone by next Christmas?
	I don't think so.
	No!
	No, sir.
	Not next Christmas.
	This Christmas.
	Oh, there'll be no more Christmas.
	Oh, Mommy, Daddy, quick, you have to stop putting carbon in the air.
	It's going to be sad.
	There'll be no more Christmas.
	This is fucking...
	This outrages me.
	It just outrages me.
	It's pretty over the top.
	But, of course, thank God we have this book Time to eat the dog.
	Which is The Real Guide to Sustainable Living by Robert and Brenda Vale from New Zealand.
	Yay!
	Yay, you guys down there.
	Yay, yay, yay.
	Give me your sheep and see how far you get.
	So apparently, keeping a medium-sized dog has an annual footprint of 0.4 hectares.
	So they've done this whole calculation.
	And the carbon footprint is about the same as an SUV. Yeah.
	So...
	It's time to eat the dog.
	I love it.
	All of these links are in the show notes at noagendashow.com.
	It's fantastic to read.
	I've got to get a hold of this book.
	Give us material for months.
	This is just nuts.
	There's also apparently an HBO Kids program called Too Hot to Handle.
	John, we'll have to look at that, put that on the list.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, we've got to look at that one.
	So the indoctrination just continues.
	And this is something I picked up from your blog, actually.
	And in more news, Archie Pachauri, the chairman of the Nobel Prize-winning intergovernment...
	So this is the...
	Interview with your buddy.
	Yeah, the Geico caveman who runs the intergovernmental panel on climate change.
	The panel on climate change has told NDTV that the charges level against him in Britain's Sunday Telegraph are baseless.
	So this is what we talked about a couple shows ago where he's on all these advisory boards and he's gotten all these carbon credits for companies that he advises and they closed the plant, opened a new one up in India so they went on both sides by getting all this money for closing one.
	Yeah, this is a giant scambola.
	Yes, thank you.
	Scambola indeed.
	And here he is crying.
	The paper has accused him of impropriety, saying that he has worldwide business interests with bodies which have been investing billions of dollars in organizations dependent on the IPCC's policy recommendations.
	Dr.
	Pachauri told NDTV that powerful vested interests are acting against him.
	By the way, John, that's us.
	The powerful interests.
	Yeah, that's the game.
	That's us, baby.
	I advise a number of organizations, both in India and overseas, and some of them are, you know, banks like the Deutsche Bank, and they do provide payment for it, but each penny of it goes to my institute.
	I never take a single penny for my...
	Why don't you just owe me your papers, please?
	I'd like to check that.
	He's never taken a penny.
	So, is the guy a pauper?
	Look, he's got a nice purple tie on.
	He's got some dough.
	He says that all the money that he gets and all the work he does...
	Every penny goes to my institute.
	Does his institute pay him?
	Yeah.
	By the way, the Institute of No Agenda...
	How stupid does he think we are?
	Yeah.
	Well, you're a powerful, powerful source, John.
	And you're stupid.
	Every penny goes into my institute...
	Which, of course, I control.
	So much so I get honoraria, sometimes pretty generous honoraria for giving talks in various places.
	Very generous honoraria.
	That's over 10,000 bucks.
	That's what that's code for.
	Yeah.
	The check goes directly to my institute.
	And let's face it.
	Why should a guy from the UN, the United Nations, be paid for speaking somewhere?
	Doesn't the UN just send him out?
	Isn't that the deal?
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	He has a whole institute that advises companies and banks, you know, like on...
	Carbon trading!
	You know, I've been visible, I've been vocal, so obviously the skeptics regard me as a target because...
	Yes, that's right.
	Hold on a second.
	Wait, don't...
	Little to the left, John?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Got him.
	Yeah.
	There are vested interests who don't want to do anything about climate change.
	There's a lot of money behind all this.
	I mean, they would like to demolish it.
	Yeah, yeah.
	It's $5 a month donations are behind the people targeting you.
	Yeah, a lot of money, dude.
	Hey, thanks.
	Could I join your institute, please?
	It's the science of climate change.
	What better way to do it than to demolish and completely damage the reputation of the chairman of the IPCC. But my record is impeccable.
	I've always been totally scropless about every single penny's transaction.
	So I'm certainly going to take action on this.
	So you are going to take action?
	Well, I'm deciding what kind of action, but I'm certainly, they're going to hear more about it.
	Oh yeah, we're going to hear more about it.
	Shut up.
	We're going to hear more about it.
	He's going to take action.
	Oh yeah.
	It takes some action.
	What a phony.
	Yeah.
	That guy just looks like a phony.
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean...
	Yeah, exactly.
	You know the joke of it?
	Who's the one who pushed that guy to be the head of the IPC? I don't know.
	Who did?
	George Bush.
	Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, doesn't it?
	All right, let's close up the gate.
	To the gate, to the gate, to the climate gate.
	And then just to wrap it up, John, oh, the battery is just about on its last legs.
	Remember we talked about VeriChip, and you scoffed at me?
	I'm still scoffing.
	Yeah, so they were delisted from NASDAQ. Good.
	Yeah.
	However, the company is still alive.
	In November, it...
	Was acquired, I think a reverse merger.
	The company is now called Positive ID. And this new company is a merger between Verichip, the old company, and Steel Vault.
	Does that name ring a bell, John?
	Steel Vault?
	Isn't they some security software company?
	No, they are the people behind NationalCreditReport.com.
	Oh.
	So, the idea of an implanted chip...
	To check your credit is not that far off.
	Well, I'm sure they'd love to do that.
	Well, just...
	So we want to wish everybody a Merry Christmas, by the way.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, we do.
	We're working on Christmas Eve and we want to wish everybody a Merry Christmas because it's going to be a nice holiday coming up.
	And go to noagendashow.com and devart.org slash NA and help us out.
	And we appreciate everyone.
	And by the way, we do appreciate those $5 subscriptions.
	Oh, it's huge because that's money we can count on every single month.
	That is a baseline.
	So even if you donate for executive producer status, please consider also signing up for $5 a month.
	Consider turning in your TV licenses over there in the UK. Germany has something similar.
	Yeah, dump them.
	Just throw the tubes out.
	It's one Starbucks visit per month.
	We highly appreciate it.
	It keeps the show going.
	So I got the aircraft up for sale for my New Year's resolution to put my own money where my mouth is.
	So that's in the works.
	We've done a lot on the stream as well, noagendastream.com.
	We're now running the Dvorak Horowitz Unplugged shows, the Gitmo Nation Roundtable.
	Still some interludes in there.
	You should put a tech five up on that too, hourly.
	But Tech 5 is like...
	I don't want to be...
	I want to just call it DvorakStream.com.
	No.
	And I have my own New Year's resolution, which I will talk with you about before the New Year's.
	So I'm not going to talk about it right now.
	But the next show we do will be on the...
	What is it, John?
	The 28th?
	Is that what that is?
	Sunday.
	Sunday, yeah.
	Sunday.
	Sunday.
	45 Nitro Burning Funny Cars.
	I will be coming to you from the lovely national park known as Yosemite.
	It's actually the 27th.
	27th.
	So that show could potentially suck, but the hotel has assured me that...
	That it has excellent Wi-Fi available.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So we'll see.
	But, you know, still, even on holiday, doing the show for you, not trying to...
	And look, if this were Christmas Day, John, would we be doing the show?
	Yep.
	Absolutely.
	And we intend to continue that.
	That's why we have such a sweet mobile setup, so that it can continue from anywhere, and sometimes you get it with warts and all.
	But yeah, have a very Merry Christmas, everybody.
	All of the things we discussed, and then some, you'll find in the show notes at noagendashow.com, cross-posted at curry.com, and dvorak.org slash blog.
	So it was Mimi's idea to play it out with a Christmas song.
	Do you want to do our final closing music first, and then the Christmas song?
	Yeah, let's do the closing music, then we have a regular show, and then the Christmas song at the end, and that people might want to stick around.
	And then we'll be done.
	Okay.
	And again, I want to wish everybody a Merry Christmas.
	And literally, a Merry Christmas.
	This is what we're talking about, not Happy Holidays, because Christmas is tomorrow.
	That's right.
	And...
	Hey, John, since we kind of glossed over our December 13th biannual, congratulations, man.
	That's like more than two years of this show.
	Yeah, when we get to the five-year mark, then I think we can have a party.
	Yeah.
	Get all our knights and we'll party down.
	Yeah, hookers and blow for all the knights.
	Yay!
	And we'll deworm you while we're at it.
	Lovely.
	By the way, you know, if your battery can last just one more second, not to mention it.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	Okay.
	I want to read a little commentary that's on the blog right now.
	And it's a guy who is apparently one of these guys named Mark Faber.
	Oh, CNBC. I don't know if it's the same one, but this guy, I don't think I've ever seen him.
	Well, maybe.
	But anyway, he made this interesting commentary, and he's a contrarian entrepreneurial type that predicted the crash and the rest of it like everybody else.
	I just want to read this.
	He's talking about how can we get the economy going again.
	again.
	He says, if we spend the money at Walmart, this is for Christmas.
	If we spend the money at Walmart, the money goes to China.
	If we spend it on gasoline, it goes to the Arabs.
	If we buy a computer, it will go to India.
	If we purchase fruit and vegetables, it will go to Mexico, Honduras, and Guatemala.
	If we purchase a good car, it will go to Germany.
	If we purchase a useless crap, it will go to Taiwan, and none of it will help the American economy.
	The only way to help the money at home, the only way that the money here at home, to keep the money here at home, geez, the only way to keep the money here at home is to spend it on prostitutes and beer.
	Since they're the only product still made in the U.S. I have to do my part, he says.
	Well, can we just add noagendashow.com to that or dvorak.org slash na?
	Yeah, Dad, we should send him a note that he left us out.
	Yeah.
	Have a merry Christmas my friend.
	Merry Christmas everyone.
	John, my battery died.
	Have a merry Christmas my friend.
	Merry Christmas everyone.
	Okay, guys, everyone ready to sing the song?
	Yeah, I'm ready.
	Great.
	Now, remember, it's almost Christmas, and nobody has any Pod Save Christmas music, so that's your motivation here.
	Cece Chapman, you ready?
	Ready as I'll ever be.
	And Len and Nora from Jawbone, good to go?
	Let's do this!
	And Adam Curry, Skyping in from the helicopter flying somewhere above your golden palace.
	You all patched in there, Adam?
	Adam?
	Adam!
	What?
	I'm right here!
	We want a Paz-Said Christmas song We want a song that's day to play Don't fake us food, we don't wanna get sued by the folks at the RIA We have been good the whole year long Santa don't delay Give us a Paz-Said Christmas song
	To celebrate Christmas Day Okay, pretty good guys, except Adam, you sounded a little bit like you were rushing it there at the end.
	You know what I mean?
	Buddy?
	Whatever, dude.
	Alright, well, I can't say I care for the attitude, but, you know, just pay attention next time.
	Now, uh, the rest of you, I just wanted to go over...
	Adam.
	Adam, did you say something to me?
	No.
	That's funny, I thought I could say something.
	No, I didn't!
	I don't want to go through this with you again.
	We're here to sing a song about hot and safe Christmas music, and I just want everyone to do their best, you know?
	I mean, can you just give me a little effort?
	Shut up, Cece.
	Adam, just give me a little effort, okay?
	Adam?
	Adam?
	Adam!
	Jesus, what?
	We want a party Christmas song We want a song that's made to play Don't take us through, we don't wanna get sued by the funds at the RIA We have been good the whole year long Santa, don't delay
	Give us a party Christmas song To celebrate Christmas Day Hey, nice job you guys Really, you nailed it.
	Nailed it.
	Nailed it.
	Yeah, not too shitty.
	Nailed it.
	I don't want to speak to you soon, but we may have saved Christmas.
	Special thanks to you, Adam, for paying attention.
	Yeah, screw you.
	I'll see you tomorrow at rehearsal.
	Yeah.

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