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July 19, 2009 - No Agenda
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114: Obama's Pitch
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Put on some clothes!
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's July 19th, 2009.
Time for your Gitmo Nation audio publication episode 114.
This is no agenda.
And coming to you from the undisclosed loft location crackpot command center, also known as the minimum security prison in Gitmo Nation, West San Francisco.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from the Twitter homepage with 58,274 followers for The Real Dvorak, I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Crackpot and Buzzkill in the morning!
Good one.
We've altered our opening.
Yay!
Creativity!
Creativity.
Look out, everybody.
As you told me that the undisclosed loft location is actually built as a minimum security prison intended to keep me in when appropriate.
People haven't noticed this, but I noticed this a number of years ago, that all these lofts that they've been building all over the country, and San Francisco has a lot of them, if you're actually taking and analyzing the way they're set up, and there's a couple around the corner from the Mevio offices, by the way, that have...
Alright, the minimum security prison.
After you told me that, John?
Boom, we got disconnected.
What is it with the minimum security prisons in San Francisco?
The first time I went to one of these specially built lofts in San Francisco, I noticed that they had, for one thing, you can't get into it, except through usually one entrance, or a couple of locked doors through the back, but they're extremely secure.
But they're so secure that it's almost completely way over the top because there are apartment buildings all over the place that are built normally.
Why are these places built like prisons?
It's impossible.
All you have to do is just imagine putting bars on the windows and then you could lock people up for as long as you wanted.
It's so true.
Everything here is built like a prison door, too.
I mean, it's modern and it's stylish, but now that I think about it, It's easy to lock me in, that's for sure.
Yeah, you can never get out of there.
I don't even think I can break these windows.
Seriously.
I don't think I can break through them.
You could jump out the window, but they could put bars, like I said.
If you put bars up, and I mean, I'd love to do a look and see how hard that would be, because I think most of these places have got set up so you could easily put bars up.
I think it's just to imprison people.
The first one I ran into was like, it was so much like a, you know, because I actually, years ago, had visited a couple of prisons for an article.
Including Folsom.
And it just reminded me so much of a person that it was like, what is the deal?
Who wants to live here?
I'm thinking to myself.
Oh, okay, okay.
No more espresso for you, my friend.
I'm not talking about your place.
Your place is roomy at least.
But that would be the other thing.
So what are you complaining about?
We're feeding you.
You've got lots of room.
You have a kitchen.
You've got two bathrooms.
What's your problem?
I must say though, a couple of things happened over the past few days that I'm really moving into survivalist mode, dude.
We're going to get water, food, cash.
Oh, please.
Yeah, listen.
So, two things.
One, I still have a credit card from the UK. And you go online with your online bank.
And they already say, oh, if you're traveling, so it used to be you could just take your credit card, your debit card, and go wherever you wanted, and it just worked.
Now, these days, you have to go online with your online banking provider, and you have to tell them what country you're going to be in between which dates, because otherwise your card won't work at all.
So that's pain in the ass number one.
Of course, it's all for my protection, not for theirs, for my protection, even though they're completely liable.
And then you make like three or four purchases, and let's say you have a combination.
This is what actually happened to me.
I bought at two different stores, then I went online.
Wait, wait, wait.
Background.
What card were you using?
I was using a Visa debit card.
From where?
From the United Kingdom, from Barclays.
Okay.
Here in San Francisco.
In San Francisco, I use it at two different stores, purchases, you know, a couple hundred, a couple hundred both places.
And then I go online to purchase tickets, and you have this visa protection program where after you purchase something, upon checkout, it brings up a separate visa page.
It's actually an embedded, like, widget or something.
And you have to, and, you know, if you signed up for the visa protection program, yet another security step for my protection...
You have a password.
And so I enter, you know, it's like the fourth, the fifth, and the tenth letter of your password.
And then it says, I'm sorry, we can't complete it this time.
And the card's completely blocked.
And then I start getting, you know, calls from the fraud protection unit.
I'm like, at what point is it just going to freaking work?
Well, we saw that you made a couple of...
But I told you that I was in the United States.
I used my visa protection password.
Oh, yes, but it's for your protection, Mr.
Curry.
But the creepy thing is, is they just turn this on and off, it seems, at will.
So that's one.
And we signed up for AT&T. We got a BlackBerry with the AT&T as the carrier service.
And first of all, it was almost impossible to get the World Connect, which is a $3 add-on monthly.
So you can then, instead of paying $1.99 per minute, you pay $0.08, which is a normal fee to call overseas.
And you select which countries you're going to call.
So it took a week to get that put on, you know, because they're like, who are you?
Why are you?
Do you even exist?
All right, whatever.
So I go through, and actually Rosie did that for me at the office.
Then we're in Amsterdam last week, and I get a call.
Well, we've suspended your wireless accounts because we need to verify you.
I'm like, okay.
And this woman who was very aggressive, by the way, and kind of, well, not kind of, she was a Nazi.
She's like, okay, what other addresses did you live in in New Jersey?
I said, I've only lived in one address in New Jersey.
Well, how about, and she named all these places like Fairfield and Bergen and all these different counties.
I said, nope, never lived there.
Nope, never lived there.
How about Great Neck, New York?
Nope, never lived there.
Well, this is all according to your credit report.
I said, well, what credit report is it?
Well, it's based on your social security number.
I said, well, you have my social security number, you know, so, you know, you should know.
Well, since you can't answer the questions correctly, we have to keep you suspended.
Like, but I'm answering the questions correctly.
I didn't live there.
That's not me.
This is me.
You know, and I go through the, you know, there are two addresses which did occur.
I've only lived in two places in the States previous to this.
So he's like, no service for you!
Okay, no service from me.
So we get back.
We need to get a clip, that one.
So we get back, and there's like a $700 bill, which of course is mainly because we couldn't get the World Connect option or whatever, so we made a number of calls.
And the two wireless cards are also on that bill.
It's all on one bill.
So I pay the $750, whatever it is, and they turn their service back on.
No verification, whatever.
And yesterday, the thing's not working.
I called up and said, well, yeah, have you spoken to the fraud division?
I said, no, I haven't spoken to the fraud division.
I said, well, you know, you have to fax us your passport and your lease agreement and a utility bill.
I'm like, you took my fraud...
Freaking money, turned it back on, and then turned it back off again.
I said, you guys are horrible.
Well, you know, we're so sorry.
And, you know, so now I'm just in this...
Of course, AT&T is the government.
They're all connected.
They use each other for their own business, wiretapping, etc.
It's like they have too much control.
I mean, we just have to resort to having lots of cash, having...
Gold as a backup, having lots of water, lots of food, and tin cans with string.
Because I don't know how else we're going to communicate.
And it's just frightening.
These guys turn your shit on and off at will.
Oh, AT&T is the worst.
I just got a note from somebody who was bitching AT&T with a bunch of memos and sending them out to all the editors.
And I got the biggest kick out.
I should bring it up and read it.
Because this guy's the same kind of thing.
Just the company's screwed up.
They won't respond to anything.
They're screwing them over.
And it goes on and on.
And I recall the day I had gotten into some beef with AT&T, and I had tried to find a public relations department.
I tried to do this.
I tried to do that.
And then I said, it's impossible to work with these people.
So I wrote this scathing column in PC Magazine when they had a hardcover edition going out to a million people.
And it's like...
Nothing.
Nobody called.
No.
Well, I will say, remember when I had the DSL line problems, I will hand out a little prop to, not specifically to AT&T. You know, I was twittering.
I'm like, you know, this is crazy.
These guys are messed up.
It's all screwed up.
And then one guy who's a systems programmer within AT&T sent me a note.
He said, Adam, just give me the number that you're having problems with because we are allowed to become a consumer advocate.
Apparently, they have a program within AT&T where anyone who hears of some customer having a problem can become an automatic customer advocate, and they can escalate stuff up pretty highly.
And I have to say, I gave the guy my number because he wrote a beautiful email, and he explained how the whole program worked.
And within a day, everything was fixed.
Then all of a sudden, stuff came together, and it just worked.
But, of course, I'm still getting calls from AT&T saying, is your line working?
We have trouble to close all tickets.
Please don't touch a thing.
It's working fine.
So somewhere within AT&T, of course there are great people who work there and who want to help and get things done.
But in general, it is the Third Reich.
Yeah, it's a pretty crummy operation.
That's why I like Comcast.
Yeah.
I'd love to get me some Comcast.
That would be beautiful.
They're not letting you.
AT&T, like I said the other day, has their big offices up the street from where you are, which is also the CIA place, and they have to keep an eye on you, so you're not going to get any Comcast.
Yeah, John was nice enough to drive Mickey and I out to a specific bank outside of San Francisco because, of course, I don't want to be a part of the government banks, which are Bank of America, Citibank, etc., And on the way back, you know, John's doing this whole shtick like, yeah, yeah, don't let this guy get any Comcast.
Yeah, we got to get him hooked up to our service so we can listen in on him.
And you think I'm wrong?
No.
No, you're not.
So just to change the topic for the people out there so we don't keep pounding, we're going to talk about swine flu in a little while because we've got, you know, both of us apparently spent the whole week looking at swine flu.
Yeah.
But, you know, it was something we keep putting off.
Oh, by the way, before we do that, Obama was at the All-Star Game.
Oh, jeez.
Oh, man.
I had this on my list.
I have the clip ready, in fact.
No, I've got it now.
I have the clip.
So here's the deal.
This is actually a complaint about the media again.
Yes.
Obama comes out to throw out the first pitch.
And by the way, they had a clip of him on another show throwing out a first pitch years ago.
He does throw like a girl.
It's the gayest pitch you've ever seen in my life.
But here's the thing.
Until I saw the older pitch, I thought, well, maybe it's because he's so constricted.
Because he was wearing so much body armor, he looked like the Michelin man, and nobody pointed this out.
I saw that immediately.
The guy is completely flak-jacketed out.
He's got Kevlar underwear on.
Yeah, so he's got these, they've criticized him on all these shows for wearing mom jeans, you know, these big-fronted, old-fashioned jeans an old woman would wear, and then he had the White Sox warm-up coat, which was huge, because he had Kevlar.
And he obviously had a bunch of stuff wrapped around his legs.
I'm surprised he could walk.
And so he comes waddling out, and not one media person says, wow, this guy's really black-necked.
I know.
They're so stupid.
Well, it's not really media.
It's the fourth branch of government.
Whatever they are, they're lousy at their job.
It's getting worse.
But he does, even with all that crap on, which I can understand, that's what I thought.
He was like, well, he had so much, he was so armored up that he couldn't feel like a man.
When you look at the pitch and you analyze it, it is exactly like girls throw overhand.
Because girls, I think, aren't built, actually, to be able to throw a ball that way.
And it's just like, uh, it's just like, eh.
You can see my arm doing it, right?
It's like pushing it through the air.
Yeah, well, when I saw him do the earlier pitch, like from years earlier, somebody had done one of the shows.
They had a bunch of different people showing them throwing.
I mean, like George Bush, who has owned a baseball team, throws like a normal man.
Perfect strike.
He threw a strike when he did the opening pitch.
It's not that hard.
It's not that far.
It's only 60 feet, for God's sake.
But they showed Mariah Carey, which was the absolute best one.
She planted the ball, I swear to God, about one foot in front of her.
Yeah.
Kaboom!
It didn't even roll.
Mariah, it's not football.
You're not supposed to spike it.
You're supposed to throw it.
It was hilarious.
But I want to say, I'm not the most masculine guy in the world, okay?
And I think that if I went out with all this body armor and Kevlar, and you're nervous, you know, I'm pretty sure I would throw a wild pitch, but at least it would look kind of manly.
Well, I'm saying if you're really nervous, you don't think you're going to hit somewhere within the range of the catcher, fire went over his head.
Yeah, right.
I mean, it looks like a wild pitch that's just a rocket over his head.
Just throw it as hard as you can.
May I point out that I did not see anywhere in the news media anything but his pitch.
The cameras did not switch to the catcher.
You do not see where the ball goes.
Yeah, no you do.
I saw it numerous times.
I didn't see it.
I couldn't find it anywhere.
It was a big looping pitch that landed about two feet in front of the plate, coming down.
I couldn't find that, really.
Yeah, no, it's all over.
The catcher had to actually step over the plate and catch the ball in front of the plate.
Well, Fox didn't show it, and Fox is complicit in this, and we'll get to that.
I think we're probably talking about the same thing, so go ahead.
Well, that was it.
I just wanted to talk about the body armor and the fact that nobody noticed.
By the way, Bill Gates, when he threw a first pitch out some years ago at a game, I talked to one of the athletes that was at the game.
He said they had to take Bill behind somewhere, I guess, in some training area and show him how to throw because he couldn't throw at all.
So producer Jack Hockman sent me this clip and he said, you know, so after this first pitch, and this was on Fox...
They roll out this, well, you could call it a PSA, but I'll just call it a commercial.
And you really see how things tie in.
And you might as well start looking at the website, John, serve.gov, because that's a part of this.
I'll play a bit of this clip here.
They are the brightest stars in the game that has for generations been at the center of our national life.
Heirs to a tradition of iconic heroes and groundbreaking pioneers.
So what you're seeing here is you're seeing all classic baseball footage.
Okay, let me fast forward to the good bits here.
Those are just five of the 30 all-stars among us being honored tonight.
They in turn are just 30 of the thousands of Americans who were nominated by their families, friends, and neighbors for this honor.
So many Americans just like them are eager to serve.
And we're doing everything we can to give them that chance to give back and help us meet our nation's most pressing challenges.
I hope tonight's showcase of service will be an inspiration, a model for what is possible, and a call to action.
You can answer that call by going to serve.gov to find out how you can get involved in service activities in your local area.
Now, if you go to serve.gov, and you'll never get through all of it today, John, because it goes so deep and you see that there's all kinds of big pharmaceutical guys on the board of serve.gov, this is a complete wind-up, just to use a baseball analogy, for the whole Give Act and for the enslavement of our children.
This is a part of the mandatory volunteerism.
And they're playing it through sports, which is really smart.
Well, it may have been smarter some years ago since nowadays.
Kids don't care about sports.
But that's a funny idea.
You know, this is interesting to me because I've noticed...
Because I started picking this up.
There was somebody on the other day, too.
I've been watching some of these shows, and there's a lot more mentions than I can recall in...
In the last few years of the Peace Corps.
I was in the Peace Corps and it's the greatest thing I ever did.
Well, if you look at serve.gov...
I wonder if this cost $18 million to do.
This website?
Oh, they actually have this video now on the homepage.
Okay.
But you want to go to AboutServe.gov.
And then, where was it?
Oh, no, I can't find everything.
Oh, yeah, here it is.
Serve.gov is managed by the Corporation for National and Community Service.
At nationalservice.gov.
Now, have you ever heard of the corporate...
If you say corporation, doesn't that imply it's a...
A money maker!
A money maker?
Doesn't it imply something for profit?
Am I crazy when I read this?
I'm not seeing that.
I'm looking at aboutserve.gov, blah, blah, blah.
Where is it?
Oh, it's managed by the corporation for...
Okay.
So then you go to nationalservice.gov.
I mean, this is what I mean.
You get to...
And this is all like...
It's one thing after another.
It's energy guys.
How much money are they wasting on this crap?
And it's energy guys, it's pharma guys...
It's like the government and big business just up each other's ass.
Right, but now they want you to work for free.
For free.
And we want to sign into law that you will work for free.
You will work for free.
There's all the unionism crap that should be going on with the Democrats.
You don't hire Democrats to do this stuff with corporations.
Come on.
You will obey.
You will obey.
What's the A and the L? Huh?
There's like stories of service and they have these little, like, these look like buttons that you'd get, you'd receive.
One has an A on it, one has an L on it.
Anyway, people can go and look at this on their own time.
This is ridiculous.
I was looking at the National Service Timeline, which of course starts with the Cooperative Education Movement founded at the University of Cincinnati in 1903.
Go figure.
Well, that's a slow-moving timeline.
Yeah.
Here we are now, it's 106 years.
But there's this AmeriCorps, there's all this stuff in here, man, and it's all leading up to mandatory volunteerism.
Here's the mandatory, you will volunteer.
No, you know what it means.
You will volunteer.
I just want to hop back to the system of credit cards and debit cards, etc.
Pretty interesting blog post by producer Dennis Cruz.
And he's unemployed at the moment.
And I think we have talked about this on a previous episode of the show.
Back in the day, John, have you ever been unemployed in the United States?
Have you ever collected unemployment?
Yeah, years and years ago I did.
And how was your unemployment given to you?
You have to go in, and it comes as a check, but you have to go and check in all the time, and they used to be really tough on you.
It comes as a check, you say.
Well, that would be the important point.
It no longer comes as a check.
You get a Visa debit card.
Oh yeah, right.
I don't think we talked about this, but I know about this.
So you don't get a check anymore that you can cash.
No, you get a Visa debit card, which, by the way, if you don't use your money within, I think, a six-month time period, it goes away.
They take it away.
Now, of course, it being a Visa debit card, every single time you use this debit card, there's, I think, a 2% fee that Visa is making.
Yeah.
They're making money off of the unemployment system.
Just how much unemployment is spent every single year is given to people who need it and then take 2% of that.
Don't you love these guys?
I fucking hate them.
I want them all to die.
It pisses me off.
This is an outrage.
So Byte Law just sent me this note, by the way, just before we leave the other topic.
Gerald Walpin, who was the Inspector General for the Corporation of National Community Service until President Obama fired him, argues in the lawsuit that the firing has politically motivated and broke a 2008 law governing how watchdogs can be dismissed.
Uh-huh.
Anyway.
So now I'm getting interested in these credit cards, right?
And I go to whitehouse.gov because, hey, that probably cost $100 million to build.
And I'm looking at the featured legislation.
And so, of course, there's the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act, which I love.
You should read.
And here's what the White House is doing, which is really interesting.
If you go to featured legislation on the homepage, this was signed May 22nd, by the way, the Credit Card Accountability Responsibility and Disclosure Act, acronym being CARD, and you click on it, then it takes you to a page which shows you a video of the president talking about it, and it gives you the White House summary of Okay?
It gives you the summary, and of course, I get immediately suspicious.
It's like, you're going to give me a summary?
Which, of course, is what all journalists would go, oh, that's really handy!
I don't actually have to look at the bill!
I could just read the summary!
Where are you getting these voices?
Yeah, I don't know.
It's just...
That's a good one.
I'm channeling.
You should do a whole show with that voice.
And so, hold on, I have to open it up in a different browser because, of course, the White House doesn't work in opera.
Can you believe that?
Hello?
John?
Yes.
You still there?
Okay.
Well, I was.
I got a little free...
Well, now it's not loading.
Anyway, if you can look at that site for me, you'll see that nowhere is there a link on that page to the actual bill.
Okay.
Well, where's the transparency?
Where's the bill?
Well, you have to then Google it.
Oh, that stinks.
So here it is.
So here's the new era for credit cards, and then it has the signing of the bill, and then the White House fact sheet.
And if you look at this page, nowhere is there a link.
So then you click on White House fact sheet, and it's a press release, and it gives you the highlights, which of course is all the good stuff, and not anywhere is there a link to the actual bill, which of course, you then Google it, And we may have talked about this, but it's good to remind people that this bill actually allows credit card companies to build an entire profile on you based upon your purchases and to give that information to the government.
So they trump up this whole thing like, oh yeah, now of course the banks are going to protect me and the credit card companies, they don't want to screw me.
They can't raise rates and do all these horrible things.
But in the fine print, that's where you read what's actually going on is now we can track you.
In fact, we're obliged to track you and to report back to the government on everything we find about you.
A dossier.
A dossier, indeed.
So I'm like, I'm just going back to cash.
Going back to cash.
I'd just rather walk around with...
We've done that kind of in our family for reasons.
We don't have any Visa or MasterCards.
We do have American Express.
And of course, because they almost went out of business themselves, they lowered everybody's limits to next to nothing.
But by the way, I've traveled all over the world with my American Express card, and I still do.
And they track you, of course, and they can kind of tell where you are, especially if it's the only card you're using.
And I've never really had it rejected, except once about 15 or 20 years ago when I was trying to log into something that required a credit card, and it kept screwing over the number.
I tried it two or three or four times and it just stopped the account.
Because it looked like I was hacking it.
Or hacking it fast.
Because you entered too many times.
Yeah.
But I've never had a problem.
It always surprises me because I'll have somebody...
I have to give a speech someplace and everything's pre-arranged for me so I don't even buy a ticket.
So American Expressors will know that I have an airline ticket and I end up in Madison, Wisconsin.
Oh, and then they go, whoops!
How did he get there?
No, it's never a problem.
They just say, well, this guy travels a lot, and this makes some sense, and they let it go.
By the way, I want to repeat this for people who haven't heard one of the earlier shows, and you can test this for yourself, because I heard a lecture from the American Express folks once about fraud and how they deal with it.
And one of the best ways, if you want to test somebody's card and you want to get their card killed on the spot, you do the following.
You get two separate gasoline tanks full.
You have to mention this.
Yeah, I like this one.
You go fill up a tank of gas and then bring your buddy over there and fill up his tank and then go buy some Nike tennis shoes.
Because that is what all the hip hoppers do when they steal a card.
The guy says the profile is the same.
As soon as they steal a card, they start filling up their buddy's gas tanks, which I think is kind of noble.
Yeah.
Of course it is.
It's like Robin Hood.
It's like Robin Hood.
That's the way it should be.
Hey, pretty girl looking for new friends, stop Skyping me, okay?
Just stop.
I hate it when people do that.
About American Express, the problem I have is that many stores won't take American Express anymore because American Express's fees, I believe, are closer to 3% or 4% versus Visa MasterCard.
Yeah, that's always been the problem.
Or they'll say, hey, yeah, you can use American Express, but I'm going to put the surcharge on you.
Yeah, actually, I find it to be not that often that that happens.
I actually try to use cash...
Oh, there we go again.
There's your router, John.
I'm telling you.
Or maybe we're getting too close to the truth.
I might as well just hang up.
It's not even going to be worth trying right now.
Oh, are you back?
Hello?
Yeah.
Oh, you were gone for a second there.
Okay, well, I was going to make a note and fix that in the post.
I'm not going to fix that because the minute we get close to the truth, that's when all of a sudden the audio goes away.
So I deal with a little bank on the West Coast called Mechanics Bank, and they rebate all the service charges that these ATMs skim.
I really don't understand why you're going to mention the name of the bank.
That makes no sense to me.
Are you looking for trouble?
They call you at home.
No, I'm looking to plug this bank.
The point is that I've used this ATM card all over the place, worldwide, and I never have any issues at all.
That's because it's a private bank.
They're not selling out to the government.
The government doesn't own them like the government, like that's supposed to be us, owns Bank of America, owns Citibank.
What else do they own?
What are the banks?
They own everything, don't we own everything now?
Well, they're owning a lot of real estate.
Real estate, insurance, automobiles.
From one of our producers, hey, you guys mentioned that all Obama does is TV appearances.
Hello!
Don't you guys remember there are two Obamas?
I don't know why they didn't put the other Obama out there to throw the baseball.
They should have put the athletic Obama out there to do it.
The one who dribbles the basketball and makes three-pointers.
See, I'm having trouble kind of putting these two things together.
The guy can dribble and shoot a three-point jumper, but he can't throw a baseball?
There's got to be two Obamas.
Good point.
Very good point.
Ooh, I like that.
We had our first hate crime guilty verdict in Onondaga County.
No, that's not the first.
They've had this in California for decades.
In Onondaga County, just because we were talking about it, and we were trying to figure out what the difference was between a regular crime and a hate crime, apparently the regular killing, second degree murder, is 15 years to life, and because it was a hate crime, it's 20 years to life.
Like, it makes a difference.
By the way, this was an African-American citizen who killed a transgendered person.
Isn't that like minus and minus equals plus or something?
I don't know.
It's weird.
Okay, so here we go.
You went to a raw food restaurant we need to review.
Yes, we do.
We're sick of waiting.
This is the restaurant called Alive.
It's in San Francisco.
Of course, now I don't know exactly where it is.
You could look it up for me, John, while I'm doing the review.
Or I could look it up real quick.
No, go ahead.
Do the review.
Every time you go on the web, the thing dies on you.
Bullshit.
It's your connection.
In fact, don't go to the website because we'll just lose the connection.
Now, I think there's one other place in San Francisco that does raw food, but that's more like a takeaway place.
It's a bar slash takeaway.
It's on Lombard down in the middle of nowhere.
Yes, Lombard down in the middle of nowhere.
And it only has six or seven tables.
And the whole idea behind...
And I took Mickey there because she's really into all kinds of, you know, macro-bionic stuff, as I call it.
And I said, no, you'll probably like this.
She's like, oh, yeah, I love raw food.
And they have a menu.
And everything you get is made of, well, obviously, raw food.
But they put on the menu things like hamburger, pasta.
And you're thinking like, hey, yeah, I'll try a raw food pasta.
I'll try a raw hamburger.
Yum!
Yum!
Well, the guy next to me, who had also never been to this place, he had the hamburger, and his face was priceless.
I think he might have been a VC or something, you know, a divorced VC. He looked kind of like lonely and hopeless, but yet incredibly wealthy.
And he was having the hamburger.
I was having the pasta.
And it looks like pasta, right?
You're like, oh, this is interesting.
This is some pasta.
And then you stick your fork in it, and that's when you realize it ain't pasta.
It's like shaved beet or something.
Shaved beet.
And they make it look like pasta.
Ooh, yum.
They make it look like pasta, and then they fill it up.
Well, because I did ask a lot of questions.
Their standard or their secret sauce is sunflower seed puree.
They make everything out of sunflower seed puree.
So instead of a pasta, you know, a ravioli actually is what I asked for.
Instead of a ravioli piece of pasta with filling of meat or mushrooms or whatever, it's this sunflower seed puree.
Now, I will say...
That the taste of everything was outstanding.
It's just the freakiness.
And the guy next to me thought he was getting maybe a veggie burger or something.
There's no bread in the raw food world.
Again, it's like some concoction of mushrooms and stuff.
And it looks like a hamburger, but you pick it up, it falls apart.
You try to eat it, and you think you're sinking your teeth into something.
It just isn't what you think it is.
But, John, I will have to say, quite enjoyable, quite delicious.
The organic wines were very nice.
The price was an outrage.
I think we spent $120 for one dinner with just the two of us.
Well, we spent more than that.
Yeah, but then we're drinking like, you know, $80 wine.
No, no, this was very, very expensive, which I guess makes sense.
Well, it makes sense.
All that raw stuff that goes into this food is the stuff that ends up getting cooked.
No, I disagree.
Try and buy real raw, try and source really good food, raw food.
Have you been to Whole Foods recently?
Have you just purchased anything there?
Can you see how expensive this shit is?
We don't go to Whole Foods.
Whole Foods is big organic, as Michael Pollan would put it.
Yeah, but okay, so we haven't quite set up the infrastructure.
We haven't quite figured out where to go.
But if you want stuff that is non-genetically modified, if you want stuff that is actually healthy for you, then you're pretty much locked into that unless you're like John and you know all the farmers and you visit the farms, which I don't have time for, being a busy executive.
It's expensive.
It's expensive to get real, whole food, like the natural stuff.
Which just gave me the idea for your next little tour that you're going to take in the next couple of weeks.
Ah, what's that?
Where are we going?
There's a farm up in the Fairfield-Susun Valley area that is huge, by the way.
You go in and you just pick whatever.
They've got tomatoes and beans and everything growing, and you just go out in the field and grab buckets full of stuff, and then you come in and they weigh it.
You pay five bucks and you're out of there.
I love it.
Well, we're going up to Big Basin today, or down, or wherever it is.
Yeah, a big basin if it's open.
I hope it's open.
I looked at the website.
It's open, but you can only smoke in your car.
Oh, yeah.
You don't want to be smoking in this.
When you go there, you'll see why.
It's a lot of trees.
I just wanted to give you some real news, news you can use.
A fantastic article, Eyal Shavit sent this to me, who sometimes listens to the show, and other times he's just running technology at Mevio.
This is from All Things D, I guess, from that group of guys.
Google says YouTube can start making real money very soon, really?
I just cracked up when I saw the title.
What's interesting about this is how much money they're losing.
I'll just give you some basic stats.
Users are uploading 15 hours of video per minute to YouTube.
15 hours per minute.
Think about the resources needed to transcode it, to store it, etc.
The company, because they just did a, even though they didn't specifically mention the numbers in their quarterly conference call, and this, by the way, is a quote from Eric Schmidt saying, yay, we're going to make some real money real soon on that thing.
Estimates are they are losing half a billion dollars a year on the YouTube service.
Half a billion.
So I'd say, make copies of the shit you upload to YouTube, because it will go away.
This cannot last forever.
Well, they're going to have to do something.
I think what they're going to have to do, and I believe this will happen, they're going to say, look.
Listen.
Yeah, look.
Let me be clear.
You're going to have to pay $10 a month to use the service.
Yeah, and then no one's going to do it, and then it's going to start...
Well, the people who use the service for blogs, I'd pay the $10 in a minute because I upload enough stuff that I like to put on the blog that the $10 fee for having somebody cover the bandwidth of a video is well worth it.
Yes, true.
But you could do it to Mevio completely for free.
Yeah, no, I could.
I've uploaded a bunch of stuff to Mevio, too.
Oh, really?
I'm just saying, for most people...
Well, I'm just saying, the other thing, you guys won't take...
I think they're taking two gigabyte files, HD files now.
No, we take that.
We certainly do a gigabyte.
Yeah.
I think so.
Producer John Steck sent a great article in the Wall Street Journal, which is about the top prisons in the United States.
He's calling it the Enron Prisons.
Where do...
Where do the good guys go when they go to prison?
Where did all the Enron guys...
Are you leaving, hon?
No.
Where'd they go?
Well, of course...
They're probably in one of these apartment buildings that you're living in.
No.
No, no, no.
No, no, no.
They go to Colorado.
They're not going to Supermax, though.
No.
Hold on a second.
Here's the...
So this is article...
The Bureau of Prisons didn't grant Madoff his first choice.
And rebuffed the judge's recommendations.
Why?
And when you read through this article...
So, of course, Madoff wanted to go to the Enron prison, which is where all these guys went.
And it's all in Denver.
Hey, Bernie!
But when you look in a little bit deeper, Fastow and Skillings...
Now, these are the Enron guys, both in their respective Colorado prisons.
Where did Canlay die before moving to the Bush Ranch in Paraguay?
In the Colorado prison.
And where has the CIA relocated their HQ? To Colorado.
Dude, this is the new Gitmo Nation Central.
Oh, yeah.
Well, you always had this theory about Colorado, which I'm not going to argue too much against because of those crazy artworks that are at that Denver airport, which kind of indicate something weird is going on.
And people kept telling us about the layers and the underground bunkers and all kinds of stuff around there, which makes sense.
So, I mean, why would they put that airport there anyway?
Now, the possibility of, you know, since I kind of subscribe to the notion that Lay was, you know, just...
He really didn't have a heart attack and is somewhere in South America or whatever.
And if they may have actually a structure for this sort of thing in Colorado, that's why Madoff wanted to get there.
And the judge saw through this and said, no, you're going down to North Carolina or wherever they sent him.
Yeah, they did send him to the Carolinas.
So he's screwed.
Well, because he probably didn't share.
He didn't share the wealth.
Adelphia Communications founder...
Bernie, where's my cut?
Adelphia Communications founder John Regas, his son Timothy...
Both to Colorado.
I mean, this is where all the big crooks go, which is kind of interesting that Madoff didn't get sent, although his lawyer tried to get him sent to Colorado.
But what was the movie?
It was the Gotti story.
Was that a TV movie?
Was it a series?
Remember about John Gotti?
No, it was probably a movie.
Who knows?
I don't know.
Oh, shit, man.
It was based on...
I can't remember now.
But, no, it was Goodfellas.
No, Goodfellas.
That's what it was.
Where they're all sitting in prison and they've got cigarettes, they've got a wine.
I mean, that's what's happening, right?
They just sit there and just cool off for a little while and they're all cooking.
They're making great dinners for each other.
And then they get out.
But you really have to look.
It's in the show notes, of course, at noagenda.mevio.com and noagenda.squarespace.com.
And you'll see how obvious it is where if you do share, unlike Bernie, if you do share, then you get hooked up and you get sent to the right place.
I'd say it's more than time now, John.
Well, let's see.
A couple of things first.
I want to get this one thing out of the way.
You can get it.
I want to just run some numbers by it before we get the swine flu.
Okay.
Somebody came out and did an analysis of the billions of dollars that...
In other words, California is an agricultural state.
Yeah.
And somebody broke down the...
The production in California, what it's worth, what the crops are worth.
Top of the list was milk and cream, 7.3 billion dollars worth of milk and cream.
We're a cheese producer.
Grapes, which I would assume all the wine industry, 3.1 billion dollars worth of, you know, grapes.
That's number two on the list?
So the number one is like seven?
Milk and cream.
And then a nursery, which is, I guess, people selling plants and stuff.
It's amazingly $3.1 billion.
Lettuce in the state of California accounts for $2.2 billion.
And marijuana.
What do you think marijuana comes in at?
I'm going to say about $1.5 to $2 billion.
$17 billion.
Holy shit!
$17 billion dollars?!
That's more than the rest combined.
It truly is the state of milk and honey.
Oh my God.
So the point is they think they can at least get $1.4 billion in taxes if the people would just let, you know, the reality of the situation.
Oh my God.
You know, it used to be $18 billion until I stopped smoking.
And by the way, I'm not against it.
I still think it's a wonder drug, or a wonder herb, let's put it that way, and we haven't figured out how many beautiful things we can do with it outside of hemp production, which would be, you can run cars on hemp, you can make all kinds of things out of hemp.
It's a magical, magical plant.
I just wound up abusing it.
Alright, so let's get on with the discussion, which is...
Well, of course it's about swine flu, and there's so many different stories going on right now.
But I kind of latched onto something John and I were working on, actually at the office.
We were working on the whole idea of the adjuvant, which was pointed out to us.
Adjuvant is kind of the hamburger helper of vaccinations.
Right, you can listen to the last week's show for an explanation.
By the way, my wife says to me, I thought you knew about these things.
Is that the voice she has?
I mean, that's really hot.
Does she say, does she be like, John, bang me really hard, John?
I mean, is that how she talks?
I mean, I'm really getting turned on.
I thought you knew about Edgivis.
I'm really excited.
I can't wait to meet her now.
I mean, that voice is just, I can only imagine the beautiful face that goes with the voice.
No wonder she lives in a different state from me.
Now, of course, John, being a former chemist, amongst his many other vocations, really does understand adjuvants.
Let me just give a quick layman's explanation, in case you didn't listen to 113.
The adjuvant is put into vaccines to actually help your immune system go into a kind of overdrive mode to combat whatever is in your system.
So the basic principle is give someone the actual virus, which is what a vaccine is.
It's a version of the virus that's put into your body.
Attenuated.
You mean toned down?
Yeah, it's either dead or...
It's a dead, right, okay.
But it is the actual structure of the virus.
And then you basically hype up your body so that your body goes into overdrive, which is why a lot of people get fevers, etc., right after they get any kind of vaccination.
and your body then is going into overdrive mode to create all the antibodies, et cetera, that's necessary to fight this off really quickly and then be immune, supposedly, to any future versions of the virus.
That's why I think the Hamburger Helper, by the way, when I told Mickey about the actual existence of Hamburger Helper, she almost shit herself.
She felt so bad for poor people in America.
Which is like, baby, I grew up on Hamburger Helper.
So, but now that we have all these different stories, that there's not going to be enough vaccine for everybody, but they're just going to fill up more of these vaccinations with these adjuvants, Add to that that the United States just purchased last week, or in the last week, over a billion dollars of adjuvants.
And that these stories have been coming out very, very quickly saying, well, the people who will die first from swine flu, or Mexican flu, should you live in Europe...
Will be teenagers.
And of course teenagers already are very active and their bodies are changing and you throw in too much adjuvants in there and they can actually, their bodies can kill themselves.
True or false, Mr.
Dvorak?
Dr.
Dvorak.
Well, here's what bothers me about the whole thing.
When you start looking, I've read too much about adjuvants over the last week.
And the thing that bothers me the most, because it keeps coming up right at the top, is the fact that they don't know how or why they work.
And the other thing that keeps coming up to the top, there's all these different articles out there, and I have a bunch of them here I'm going to talk about.
Is that really there hasn't been a new adjuvant added to the arsenal since 1930.
What is a typical adjuvant, John?
The adjuvant that's used is pretty much the same, alum.
It's aluminum hydroxide.
So, aluminium.
Aluminium hydroxide.
And that's been in use since around the turn of the century.
And they don't know why it works, but they know that they can develop other ones.
And there's a whole bunch of experimental ones, a ton of them, including the Big Whopper, which is the one I'm going to talk about in a second, from Novartis.
Which is what the government bought from.
They bought from Novartis AG. Yeah, because Novartis makes a flu vaccine, and they also make an adjuvant that is...
I believe, by the way, the two things that have happened that kind of confirm this theory, which is I believe that they have called the swine flu vaccine experimental is because they're going to use a non-approved adjuvant, the one from Novartis, in this mix.
And I'd like to point out that according to AP... The pharmaceutical companies have been granted immunity For any liability, and this was a document that Sibelius signed last month, grants immunity to those making a swine flu vaccine under the provisions of a 2006 law for public health emergencies.
In other words, the last time this whole swine flu came about in 1976, a lot of people died from, what's the name of the disease, John?
Guillain-Barre.
Is that how you pronounce it?
My wife gave me crap about that, too.
She said that we can't pronounce anything.
We're idiots.
But how did she say it?
I can't remember.
Is that how she talks?
I just want to make sure I got the voice down.
Now I'm screwed for the next week, thanks to you.
I think you're not screwed is what we're talking about.
So this Guillain-Barre, there were lots of lawsuits, and of course the makers of the vaccine had to shell out all this money.
So now they have been indemnified from any lawsuits.
Should this experimental adjuvant kill people?
Right, and the adjuvant we're looking for is MF59. You can look it up yourself.
An MF59 is a whack job of an adjuvant.
They think it's going to do great things.
And by the way, when you start looking into adjuvants, you'll find there's a whole slew of these from these different pharma companies that they're experimenting with.
And the thing that they do is that they use them in...
Animal medications.
In other words, when your dog gets a shot, it probably has an experimental adjuvant that they're testing on these animals in real time.
Because these things are out there.
Because you keep reading about, oh, it's only used for animals.
It's only used for animals.
Why is it used for animals?
Because they're trying to get clinical data so they can sell these.
Because this could be worth a fortune.
Because the idea is if you can find one where you can use...
One-tenth as much of the virus or the attenuated virus, you can really stretch.
It's stretching the budget.
This is the hamburger helper theory.
So anyway, they've got this MF59, which you know they're going to use, and that's why this is called experimental.
The vaccine itself is not experimental.
They just make them the same old way.
But when you start doing weird stuff like this...
Yeah, now it's quote-unquote experimental.
And then they have to indemnify them, and they do that, too.
And so God knows what's going to happen.
This is basically...
Here's the way I'm seeing it.
These pharma companies have seen that the FDA is holding pat on we're not going to approve anything that's an adjuvant because you don't even know how these things work.
And so they said, since 1930.
So they say, okay, let's do it this way.
We'll make it a...
Call it experimental.
That way we can use anything we want because it's experimental.
And essentially use the entire world's public to do a blind test on various adjutants.
There may be more than one or two different ones used in different areas.
You may have...
The normal aluminum hydroxide in California, for example, and then they may use the MF stuff from Novartis, MF59 in Nevada.
And so then they see how many people drop dead.
And, oops, well, maybe that wasn't a good idea.
Who knows?
I mean, as far as I can tell, this is a giant way to bypass, to do an end run on the FDA's kind of stubbornness about using these experimental adjuvants.
If you want some real news reporting on this, there will be some links in the show notes.
Here's one from the Wall Street Journal titled, Swine Flu Vaccination Production Hits a Snag.
And it says right here, swine flu vaccine is proving difficult to manufacture because the viruses used to make the shots aren't yielding a large amount of active ingredient.
That's according to the two large vaccine makers.
Their comments echoed similar statements from the World Health Organization earlier this week.
It means that millions of vaccine doses ordered by many governments could arrive later than expected, but they're going to be adding adjuvants to beef them up.
That's the Hamburger Helper theory.
In addition to that, let me see.
Oh, this was kind of interesting.
CNN reports that Franklin Delano Roosevelt...
Might not have died from polio-related diseases, but from Gillian-Barr syndrome.
Not Gillian.
It is Gillian.
Gryame.
Gillian.
Gilligan's Island-Barr syndrome.
What's better?
Gillian-Barr.
Yeah.
Gryame.
And...
See, there is some real reporting going on about this, but it's being completely snowed under, and here's how it's working.
So if I can just step back for a second.
First of all, I believe most people who are part of this evil, evil, evil plan are in it for the money.
So I don't think everyone's out to kill us.
But obviously the pharma companies are like, you know, all of their drugs are running out of patent.
They've got to come up with something.
These are multi-billion dollar contracts.
A lot of it was pre-sold.
I've looked at all of the big pharma reports, their annual reports.
In the 2008 reports, they're all saying, hey, we've got, you know, our pipeline is filled up with billions of dollars in revenue for, they literally say, swine flu vaccine like they knew it in 2008.
This is a big, big, big, big money maker.
And of course, the FDA and everyone's all in each other's pockets.
So there's money flowing everywhere.
The World Health Organization is what really scares me, though.
They came out with...
Actually, they only did it on their website.
They didn't even send out a press release.
They quietly announced on Thursday that it would stop tracking swine flu cases and deaths around the world.
Which has perplexed the experts.
But of course the reason they have to do this is because no one's actually dying.
There's not a high enough number of people dying from swine flu.
So clearly they don't want that information for someone to actually count the numbers.
Someone who might work at, for instance, the New York fucking Times, who would actually write something that says, this is bullshit, you're being hoodwinked.
So they're taking away all the data so that we can't actually track it.
And now they're creating this hype and we see this happen in every single country around Gitmo Nation.
And I've seen it happen in Germany, seen it happen in Austria, seen it happen in the Netherlands.
Belgium, interestingly enough, not.
But of course, that's where the European Parliament sits.
So they're like, we ain't taking no shots.
They're creating a hype saying, who should go first?
And this is the discussion now.
Which group is most at risk?
Who should get their shot first?
So now people are like, oh, I want to be in the first batch, and now there's not enough, and we're going to die if we don't get the shot.
So it's a complete social engineering project, which is working really, really well.
Yeah, have your doctor people out there, if you don't want to get these shots, have them give you a prescription for Relenza.
And just have it around the house.
Have one for everybody in the family.
And then if somebody gets the flu, you use the Relenza, and that's the end of it.
Well, that's not the end of it, John.
By the way, the Tamiflu-resistant strain, supposedly, that came and went, I believe, because it was in China, there happens to be now a lot of counterfeit Tamiflu.
Yeah, there is a lot of it.
And I believe it was a counterfeit batch.
Well, but here's the problem, John, is the issue of forced vaccinations.
And it turns out that any member of the World Health Organization has to adhere to their constitution, I think they even call it.
And, of course, the United States is a member of the World Health Organization, and the WHO is allowed to make a call for forced vaccinations, and all these countries, irrespective of their individual constitutional rights, are supposed to adhere to this.
So, if they do say, hey, forced vaccinations, you've got to have it, I believe the first thing they're going to do is they're going to not allow your kid to go back to school in September.
They're going to say, if your kid hasn't had a swine flu shot, no school for you!
So that, of course, is where they start.
Then they're setting up, in multiple countries, they're setting up vaccination centers, which will obfuscate the whole idea of getting a note from your doctor, from a friendly doctor, obviously.
I can draw this so much further, all the way right into what we talked about at the beginning of the show.
Hey, you don't take your shot?
Boom!
We just turn off your phone.
You don't take your shot?
Boom!
We're just going to force you to do it.
So what I'd rather focus on, and I made a call out on Twitter on Friday, is there anything, and of course I kind of know the answer since we don't even know what the frick these adjuvants are or how they work, but is there anything we can take to render the effects of the adjuvant Because the flu itself, I've had it.
I had swine flu.
If I had called my doctor and had it diagnosed over the phone, he would have said, yep, you got swine flu.
I was in California during the big scare.
I was deathly ill.
I wasn't throwing up or anything, but I had a bit of an upset stomach.
I had huge coughing, sneezing, wheezing, the whole nine yards.
And I lived.
I lived, okay?
No big deal.
But the edge of it is what's going to kill you.
So is there any compound?
Is there anything we can take that will counteract the adjuvant process?
Is there any compound?
You're still there?
Thank you.
Dr.
Dvorak?
...of autism in the United States as opposed to mercury.
Hold on, John, back up a second.
I missed what you just said.
Back up one minute.
Hello?
Yeah.
Okay, start again.
My question was, is there anything we can...
Yeah, aluminum hydroxide is the adjuvant that's being used currently, and you could take chelating agents to get the aluminum out of your system, if that has anything, it's going to mean anything.
It's not.
These MF59 and these other experimental adjuvants, and there's a crap load of them, and you start looking it up, it's almost like the big thing to be investing intellectual time in.
I mean, there's a whole...
I've got a list of them here, actually, of all these experimental ones.
Hemispherics.
I mean, for one thing, you'll never know which one it is.
Is it going to be Hemispherics?
Ampligen, which is another one.
QS21, the stimulant.
QS21, I've heard about them using that.
They're not going to use QS21. They're going to use it.
The Novartis is going to be the Novartis product, the MF59. It's a witch's brew.
You have all kinds of weird stuff.
There's no way you could take something that's going to counteract it.
Do you think it's possible maybe that marijuana would be something that would counteract that?
Seriously, think about that for a second.
Well, it can't hurt.
At least you'll die happy.
Oh, no.
A great YouTube video that I'll put in the show notes.
You've got to listen to this.
This is pretty cool.
This is from...
Confound cases of swine flu has topped over 100,000 now, with the World Health Organization calling the pandemic unstoppable and suggesting mass vaccination.
But are we actually fighting a man-made tragedy?
Some are asking.
Investigative journalist Matthew Contributor Wayne Madsen's in Washington to tell us more about claims that the virus began life in a...
So this is about how it was actually created in the lab.
It's worth listening to for a minute.
Mr.
Madsen, afternoon to you.
The World Health Organization we're hearing is looking into claims that this virus could have been created in a lab, possibly in some sort of vaccine development that may have gone out, may have gone wrong.
What else do we know?
What we know, of course, is that there have been laboratories, especially at the University of Wisconsin at Madison, that were involved in what I call the Jurassic Park development of this particular flu, the 1918 flu, called the Spanish flu.
It was extracted from the corpse of a dead Inuit woman who died of the disease in Brevig Mission, Alaska, a small Inuit village, and it was recombined with other forms of flu to create this particular AH1N1 that's been declared a pandemic by the World Health Organization.
Now it's interesting to note that a company called FluGen, which is associated with this research at the University of Wisconsin at Madison, is now developing a vaccine.
I think what we see with Baxter International, FluGen, and other companies developing a vaccine, when some of these companies were involved in the research on this particular form of flu, people are a little bit skeptical about the profit motivation here.
And I will point out that we actually discussed that story about a year ago about them digging up the Inuit body that had the 1918 Spanish flu.
We talked about that specifically and we said that's not a good idea.
And now, of course, now you can connect all the dots.
You've got the research at Madison, Wisconsin, funded by Big Pharma, FluGen.
I understand that we're so hypnotized these days by television and mainstream media that we are immune to logic and reason.
So...
Well, here's the thing.
You have to ask yourself.
Every flu that comes about comes out of Asia because of the nature of their agricultural system where they mix the cows and the pigs and the ducks and the chickens.
And so these things kind of mutate amongst those animals.
How did this one come out of Mexico?
I mean, how does this thing somehow evolve out of Mexico in the middle of the summer, in a hot area like Mexico?
I mean, the whole thing is a little fishy.
At the very time the president was in Mexico, I might point out.
Here's what bothers me.
They say that they're trying to make enough of the attenuated virus so they can make these vaccines with or without the fancy adjuvants.
Anyway, so...
So the World Health Organization puts out this, they say, we're not making enough, we can't get enough yield.
You know, there's a yield problem, sounds like the semiconductor industry.
We have a yield problem, so we're going to tweak the virus.
Did you read this?
What do you mean you're going to tweak the virus?
You're going to make it better?
What does that mean?
You tell me.
What, do you have a link for that?
Do you have a source?
I had it, that's the, I realize that's the missing link that I sent you that you didn't get.
No, you sent me something very different.
Well, later I did, but the one that I meant to send you was this thing where they're going to tweak the virus.
They're going to tweak the virus?
What do you mean you're going to tweak the virus?
So maybe we're not getting enough death here.
The kill rate's too low.
Let's tweak it and send it back out there.
And maybe we can get some more, you know, I don't know.
The whole thing is completely fishy.
It's fishy.
It's fishy.
Well, if you believe in the whole Bilderberg group and the idea that there are eugenicists at work here, who, by the way, have a pretty decent idea.
I hate to say it, but look, listen, let me be clear.
The number one problem on Earth is people.
We've got six and a half billion people.
It's too many people.
There's too many of us fuckers out there.
So you have to get rid of them.
War doesn't go fast enough.
Nuclear war is too dangerous because you'll kill people you don't intend to kill.
So why not just kill the idiots who are going to stand in line and take a damn flu shot?
I mean, it does make a lot of sense.
It really does.
So I got this one report that indicates some guy, or woman actually, goes on and on about the MF-59, and they mention that the military, they think there may be some connection to the anthrax vaccines and Gulf syndrome and some of these adjuvants because the military, they can give the military people any experimental drug they want.
Yeah.
By law.
And so they use them as a testing ground constantly, right?
There are thousands and thousands of stories of military men and women being given experimental shots and dying.
And there's no record of the shot they were given.
There's no information.
Just your son, your daughter is dead.
Sorry.
Got something bad.
Died in the military hospital.
Thousands of examples of this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway, so this guy goes on and on about how this worry about the triple mix, which is an Army designation in the late 1980s for squalene, which is part of MF-59.
Emulsion adjuvant now sold by Corix under the commercial name Reby adjuvant system, or RAS scientist at Fort Dietrich, which is always a bad thing to hear.
Began working with this emulsion vehicle in 1987.
He goes on and on.
I will send a show.
This is one of these kind of loaded with information, paranoid freak kind of a memo that is always kind of interesting.
Fort Dietrich, Fort Dietrich, Fort Dietrich.
By the way, while I was digging this stuff up, looking for some connection to the anthrax vaccine.
Before you go there, John, because that will take us a little bit off track.
I just want to read a quick article from the Wall Street Journal, owned by Rupert Murdoch, I might add.
What did Murdoch turn on us?
Written by Betsy McKay.
Wall Street Journal.
U.S. health officials are preparing intensively to combat an anticipated wave of outbreaks of the new H1N1 flu when children return to school and the pace of cases picks up.
Identified by scientists just three months ago, the new swine flu virus, according to the World Health Organization, has reached unprecedented speed.
Rather than die down in the summer, as some expert initially expected, it's continuing, blah, blah, blah.
So this article basically says that they...
Well, here it is.
And ShooChat...
Ann Schuchat, we should Google her, Chief of Immunization and Respiratory Diseases at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said Friday the agency expects an increase in cases before the normal start of flu season mid-autumn because children are likely to spread it to one another once they go back to school.
This is a setup to have your kids immunized if they even want to return to school.
And I guarantee you this is going to, we've been consistently ahead of the news on this program.
We have a whole month.
Now, all this crap that we're talking about happened in three short months, okay?
So we have a whole month left, actually a month and a half, before your kids have to go back to school.
And I guarantee you that there will be states, probably California, New Jersey, those I know for sure, who will force your children to have an anti or a swine flu vaccination for them to be allowed to return to school.
And I say homeschooling is the best.
And homeschooling, which is almost illegal in California, is very difficult to do here.
They don't want kids in California being homeschooled, period.
Clinical trials are expected to begin later this month to test whether a vaccine developed to combat the virus is safe and effective.
And the CDC is working with state and local public health authorities to figure out how to get as many as 600 million doses or two for every U.S. resident into people's arms.
I love the way the Wall Street Journal writes...
Results of the trials aren't expected until early October, which means we have to have a whole bunch of people dead before it's proved to be effective.
I guarantee you, this is what's happening.
So if we can find out any...
By the way, aluminum or aluminum is in all kinds of shit that enters your body.
Do you know that that is the main active ingredient in deodorant?
Which, of course, you spray on your underarm, which is a very sensitive area of your body.
Yeah, it's also in Rolaids.
Rolaids?
Yeah.
And it's also, people who cook on aluminum cookware get a lot of aluminum in their system when they acidify anything.
And it's in chemtrails.
I just have to make sure we throw in something wacky, John.
So when you see what you think are vapor trails by airplanes up in the sky, they're actually not 40,000 feet up where these vapor trails do occur, but they're more like a couple thousand feet up, sometimes even lower, and they're in crisscross formation, and these are being sprayed by aircraft.
They contain all kinds of crap, but mainly aluminum, or aluminum, as you say in Gitmo Nation West, and it's intended to dumb you down, to make you ill...
And effectively to keep you in servitude of Big Brother.
Service.org or.gov.
Serve.gov.
So let's go.
What I want to mention here is not that.
But the fact is, I don't think that anyone listening to this show really kind of appreciates the fact that nobody in the mainstream media is talking about adjuvants and some of the controversy over all the different ones and how they're, you know, what might be going on in the background, which I believe is still a massive, just a public test to try to get something approved by the FDA. I don't think it's any more sinister than that, to be honest about it.
But the fact of the matter is nobody's discussing any of the stuff that we discuss on this show.
And I would like to tell people that we would really appreciate their support.
And I want to mention to people from the last week who gave us their support in the form of 50, 100.
Or I might want to mention, I wish you had a little horn blast, we have yet another night.
Ah, lovely.
Well, I can do an alert thing if that'll help.
Our new knight is Kent Zeisser from Clovis, New Mexico.
Wow.
And he gave us $1,000.
Thank you very much, Kent.
That's highly appreciated.
Kent, you rock.
Yeah.
But let's look at some of the other people that came in this week, which Joseph Fry.
By the way, most of the people are from out of the country, which I find interesting.
Joseph Fry out of Montreal, $54.46.
Unfortunately, he sent us an email because that's an odd number that must mean something, but he gave it away in the email, so what's the point of guessing?
5446?
What is it?
It has to do with the amount of time Toots Maytall, the reggae singer, spent in jail.
I'm glad he sent the email.
And 5446 apparently is used a lot in reggae music as a reference.
Really?
Yeah.
I didn't know that.
Who knew?
And he's in Montreal.
I mean, geez, I don't know.
Chasen Rodilski in Saskatoon, by the way, he gave us a hundred.
Thank you.
It's C-H-A-S-E-N. He sent me an email saying it's pronounced like Jason, so it's Chasen, not Chasen.
And he's in Saskatoon, which I understand is the Paris of Canada.
What does that mean?
I don't know.
Lots of transsexuals?
Oh, you've got to go to Saskatoon.
It's the Paris of Canada.
They have lots of transsexual hookers?
Is that what it is?
Maybe that's it.
Chris Mackle hat in Australia, $50.
Marcel Hyjems.
It's H-E-I-J-A-M-S from Loonen, Netherlands.
Is that how I pronounce it?
H-E-I-J-A-M-S? Loonen.
Wait, spell it again?
Yeah.
His name is H-E-I-J-A-M-S. H-E-I-J... Spell it slower.
H-E-I-J-A-M-S. Haymonds.
Okay, well that's him.
And he's in...
Netherlands.
Chris Backlehatton, by the way, is in Australia.
Liam Hemmings is in Buckinghamshire in the UK. He's $50.
Brian Curry, no relation, I don't think.
Well, not that we know of.
$50 from British Columbia.
Wow, it's a lot from Canada.
Our Canadian brethren are really helping us out.
Yeah, they are actually.
We get a lot of Canadian help.
Ander Omai from Grev, Denmark, 50-50.
$50.50.
And then we finally got some Americans.
Frank Davis in Florence, South Carolina.
And Johnny Green gave us another $50.
And he's in Greenwood, South Carolina.
So if it's South Carolina, I'm not sure.
Isn't Johnny Green the guy who wants to do the t-shirts that we Yes, Johnny Green.
Can we just approve these t-shirts and just get them out there?
We'll do it this week.
Okay.
And Justin Fiore in Atlanta, 50.
So the only people giving us any substantial money, I mean there's a lot of subscribers from everywhere, but are people from Canada...
The Scandinavian Nordic countries and it's deep south of the USA. We don't get anything from New York.
No, it's obvious, John, because those people are already completely assimilated.
They're completely on board with the program.
They're already standing in line outside the vaccination center ready to take their two shots to the arm.
They're so ready for it.
So go to dvorak.org slash na or noagenda.squarespace.com and help us out with this.
And we do want to thank our web developer for the Squarespace site, who I wrote his name down.
Oh, God, don't tell me you forgot already.
Well, you're looking for that.
If you think we're crazy and you'd like to learn more about the swine flu, there will be an international swine flu conference being held August 19th and 20th with a workshop on the 21st.
And I'd just like to read for you a little bit of the agenda.
They have breakout sessions between 3 and 5.
Breakout session number 1 is mass fatality management planning.
Well, this is rich.
You have a link to this, I hope.
Oh, yeah.
Here, I'm going to send it to you right now because you'll want to read this with me.
Hold on.
It's beautiful.
There you go.
Breakout session number two, psychological issues.
Breakout four, continuity of operations.
That's COOP. That is continuity of government planning.
Okay.
We've got five emergency management services, law enforcement agencies, first responders.
I mean, they're setting this up like we are all going to die.
And from 10 to 10.30 is a coffee break.
Where's the epidemiology on this?
Where are the people dropping like flies?
This is bull.
Of course, they're tweaking the virus, so that could change things.
Where's this thing being held?
Hold on a second.
Sorry about that.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Barry, B-E-R-Y-N-I-E-S-K-E-N-S, who's our web guy.
I'm sorry, Barry, we haven't been plugging you.
There you go.
And I want to also, by the way, not to stop begging for money for one more minute.
I want to mention that I would like to find someone out there who likes to do charts.
I need somebody, because I want to do some custom charts that push one, you know, axis about, you know, a number of people dying.
Shit.
This website keeps popping up a video.
I'm sorry.
Hey, there are speaking opportunities at this conference, John.
Should we sign up?
Yeah, let's see if we can get in.
This is all bullshit.
They've got a brochure.
Let's see, contact us.
What can we find under contact us?
Oh, it's in Washington, D.C., of course.
And it's sponsored by Healthview, Luminex, Prefens Botanicals, Paul Boyer Technologies.
It's pharma.
It's pharma.
What is this?
The session at 945 says current scientific advances of H1N1 virus.
What does that mean?
We've tweaked it to make it even better.
So, anyway, homework.
Homework, homework, homework.
What can we do?
Did I mention I need a chart guy?
A guy who likes to do charts?
Yes, a chart guy.
Okay.
Thank you very much to people like Fabrice who have been working on the RFID frequencies.
We'll probably get to that in a later show.
Trying to figure out if indeed the...
And this is happening worldwide, by the way, not just in Gitmo Nation West, where analog television signals are being turned off.
The thinking is that it's freeing up spectrum for RFID so that you can be tracked.
Thanks to Ben, whose last name I should not mention, who works for the GE in their nuclear division, gave us a whole bunch of internal links and information.
We'll get back to that in a later show as well, I'm sure.
You guys are really doing a great job at sending us good, good information.
And, of course, the Monsanto stuff does not stop.
We have our, I think it's our Russian friend, Alex, who sends us the inside dirt on the exchanges of commodities.
And July wheat, I might add.
A member of Monsanto has now been given the go-ahead to create genetically modified wheat for the United States.
The July wheat futures up $6.
Soybeans up $10.
$10.
That's a lot for a futures contract.
So, I posted on the blog, Dvorak.org slash blog, The World According to Monsanto, a clip.
I finally found one copy of it online that you can watch if you want to watch it on the blog.
Or, if you read through the comments, somebody has a link to an HD version of it, which is somebody, I guess, put up somewhere.
You just might want to, not that it's, you should buy it if you can find it.
But it's a great documentary.
And I still want to go see it, but Food, Inc., I'm hearing rave reviews about it.
That's in selected theaters, I believe, now.
Yeah, very few selected theaters.
And becoming fewer every day.
So again, homework.
Let's work on adjuvants.
I know we have a lot of really smart people out there who can help us.
Is there something natural or synthetic that we can take to combat the activity of adjuvants, which will start killing our teenagers first?
John and I both have one.
We kind of love them, so we want to hold on to them.
Maybe you have some kids you love.
That would be the number one piece of homework, I would say.
Have you seen this video floating around as well about this bus that some guy shot driving on the highway?
It was the...
Oh, shit.
I forget what the actual...
It was like the...
It didn't actually say swine flu bus.
The swine flu bus.
Let me see if I can find it.
I should also plug the blog one more time because I have a picture somebody took in Italy of a swine flu ambulance.
Oh yeah, I got that.
An ambulance that looks like a giant pig.
Yeah.
No, this is the mass evacuation bus.
That's what it was, John.
Have you seen this one?
No, I haven't.
Oh, my God.
That's bloggable.
It'll be in the...
It was put up a couple days ago.
It was...
I'll put that in the...
Here it comes in the show notes.
Yeah, it's this bus.
Here, I'm driving right now.
I'm just going to wait for the video to get a little closer.
So the guy's driving on the highway.
He sees this huge, beautiful bus with no windows...
Except for the emergency exit at the back.
It's a huge white bus.
It's from the EMS, Emergency Medical Services.
And he's cruising by it.
And it says on the side, I can see it right now, Mass Evacuation Bus.
Hold on.
You've got to take a look at this, man.
Send me the link.
I don't have it.
There it is.
You've got the link now.
Mass Evacuation Bus.
Take a look at this right now.
Wow.
It looks official.
Yeah.
That's not a cheap piece of gear I'm looking at.
No, that's like a million dollar bus.
Yeah.
Look at that thing.
Oh, that's got it.
I'll put it on the blog.
Mass evacuation bus.
And Barry will put it on the noagenda.squarespace.com site.
Um...
Mass evacuation.
It looks like a...
You know what it is?
It's actually a prisoner's bus.
Yeah.
All the windows are blacked out, and it's...
But it's...
This is a nasty-looking bus.
My lighter's empty, finally.
So we're trying to get you a silent lighter, but nobody seems to be coming up with one.
Shit.
It's busted.
Good.
Alright.
Should we go out to dinner this week, John, so we can have a proper restaurant review?
Yeah, we can give it a shot.
We'll just do more swine flu on Thursday.
Well, I don't want to keep harping on this.
I think we've made our point.
I'm sure something crappy will...
Something crap you'll crop up that we'll have to talk about.
I just want to remind everybody to go to dvorak.org and help us out.
We need to keep these donations coming in.
It's still a little below what we'd like.
Although I want to definitely thank our Knights.
Yes.
Coming to you from the minimum security prison in an undisclosed loft location in the Crackpot Command Center, Gitmo Nation, West San Francisco, California.
I'm Adam Curry.
And from Silicon Valley North, the...
Warmest part of the Bay Area currently.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
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