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May 10, 2009 - No Agenda

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	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	I am so freaking tired.
	Everybody, we're back at home bases, respectively.
	It's time once again...
	This is No Agenda.
	Coming to you from the Crackpot Command Center, located in the southwest quadrant of Gitmo Nation East, known as London.
	Hey, everybody.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And from parts unknown in northern Silicon Valley, the place that doesn't exist, so the unknown part is key.
	I'm John C. Dvorak.
	Crackpot and Buzzkill.
	In the morning.
	Damn, that was tight.
	That was good.
	Will the judges please hold up their votes?
	8.7.
	8.7, yes.
	We got ripped off.
	Yeah.
	Hey, buddy.
	Nine-point scale.
	How you doing, John?
	Okay, I see you're back in London finally.
	Yeah, it's weird because somehow, I guess I had told you, oh, it'll be a little bit later, whatever, but I got in early.
	I was home at like 1 o'clock.
	It was unbelievable.
	It went so fast.
	Your connection sucks.
	My connection?
	I hear you fine.
	You can't hear me.
	That's the good part.
	That's the good news.
	My back is killing me.
	Oh, why?
	What kind of plane would you fly back on?
	It was the 747.
	It was the upper class with the bed and everything, but it was lumpy.
	The bed was lumpy.
	The bed was lumpy?
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	It messed up my back, that's for sure.
	I'm sorry.
	No, go ahead.
	I've noticed a couple of flights since I just flew.
	I flew back and forth a couple of times this year.
	I think about two or three years ago, British Airlines put in, in business class, complete flat seats.
	In other words, it was a bed that was literally flat.
	There was a lot of room and it was very comfortable.
	So it looks as though United, on the flight over, had completely flat beds, too.
	And it was like little alcoves.
	This is in business, not first class.
	Right.
	And it was completely flat, except for the fact that they designed the thing with seats that face forward and half the seats face backwards.
	And that's not a good thing?
	Well, I mean, who wants to be flying around backwards?
	Yeah.
	So anyway...
	You can't complain, man.
	If you've got a flat bed and it's for free, you can't complain.
	Did you fly backwards then on United?
	Yeah, I flew backwards.
	Oh, okay.
	Although I slept, there was a route back down.
	Then coming back on Lufthansa, you'd think of all the carriers that would have the flat bed.
	Lufthansa would be one of them, but no, they have the same old reclining seat that kind of keeps you at just about a 10 or 15 degree angle.
	Just doesn't quite do it.
	No, you can't flip around and lay on your stomach or anything like that.
	So anyway, one of these days I'll have it figured out.
	It's a long-ass trip.
	Weather is beautiful, though.
	It's really just phenomenal.
	It's like San Francisco weather, actually.
	Yeah, we have, this week, we've got 80s.
	Okay, it's not quite like San Francisco weather, but at least there's sun, blue skies, nice and warm, everyone's out.
	And despite the fact that, you know, no one has a job, they've got no place to live, and the government is ripping everybody off for their own personal gain, Well, of course we did, because who's going to cover that over here?
	We've got too many real news stories.
	Yeah, we do.
	And now the ministers of parliament have actually called in the police.
	The Scotland Yard have to come in and find out who has leaked all of this confidential data.
	Which, of course, is a good thing because now we find out that Gordon Brown, he expensed 6,000 pounds for maid services that he shared with his brother for his house.
	And, of course, we still have Wacky Jackie's husband who rented not one but two X-rated movies and she expensed that.
	Wow.
	Nasty, nasty, nasty.
	She should be kicked out on her ass.
	She should put out for her husband.
	That's what this story tells me.
	How embarrassing is that though?
	You actually have to account.
	It was my husband.
	I would have said perhaps like, well, the both of us watched it or something.
	It's like a little sexy night and we apologize.
	I kind of slipped to the crack.
	No, my husband watched it.
	Well, yeah, just looking at her.
	No kidding.
	That's embarrassing.
	What an idiot she is.
	But the headline, the big headline, Joanna Lumley, better known as Patsy from Absolutely Fabulous...
	Or...
	Is that the blonde or the other one?
	Yes, the blonde.
	Of course, Joanna Lumley, fantastic actress.
	I should just say actor.
	She also was in...
	Wasn't she in the Avengers after...
	Doesn't this call for a real news hit?
	Yeah, well...
	Sorry.
	That's okay.
	We need more of those.
	Well, it's very interesting what she's done because it's not just like a showbiz story.
	Are you familiar with the Gurkhas?
	The Gurkhas?
	Yeah.
	Is that either a small pickle or someone in India?
	That's a Gurkha.
	No, I think it's...
	Well, this has to do with the Gurkhas who fought in the Falklands War on the British side.
	Yeah, these are Indian fighters, aren't they?
	Yes, correct.
	I think it's correct.
	And so you have these Gurkhas who...
	Fought on behalf of the British, many of them in the Falklands War.
	I'm really paraphrasing here because the story gets even weirder.
	I think Joanna Lumley's dad was either a part of, either he worked with the Gurkhas or he was saved by the Gurkhas.
	There's something going on and so she is basically speaking up for the Gurkhas who now are being refused entry into the United Kingdom.
	And she went to Parliament the other day and she tapped, she went right up to Gordon Brown and said, I've got to talk to you.
	I haven't seen the video yet, but this big scene, and then she grabbed the minister of immigration and said, you are changing this policy.
	And you can see these pictures of the guy like completely, he's terrified of her.
	And she's all over the papers, and she apparently is changing the immigration laws just by standing up and saying, hey, screw you guys.
	These guys fought for us.
	They have every right to enter the United Kingdom.
	And it's the top of the real news here.
	Well, I would think.
	I mean, the fact that they let in radical Muslim Islamists from Pakistan, which are inhabiting all over that part of London, and they won't let these guys in who actually fought for them?
	It doesn't make any sense.
	No, of course.
	Well, they're clamping down.
	The island is shutting down.
	No one's allowed in.
	I got in just under the wire.
	Yeah, now you won't be able to get out.
	I did have a moment when I was entering immigration thinking of the Michael Savage story, thinking, you know, we know there are like six more names on the list.
	You don't really think...
	Yeah, and you're one of them.
	Who knows?
	Well, I mean, it's not any nuttier than Michael Savage being on the list.
	Well, true.
	It's actually not really, except for the fact that our audience is one one-hundredth of his.
	Yeah.
	But, anyway.
	So Michael Savage's kid, I can't remember his name, but anyway, he's the one who's the CEO of this, of the...
	Red Bull clone, Rockstar.
	Oh, I didn't know that.
	Yeah, and I think actually Michael Savage is the money behind Rockstar.
	I think it's a pretty successful brand.
	I see it all over the place.
	Oh, it's hugely successful.
	It's amazing.
	It just came out of the blue.
	And of course, it makes sense because Michael Savage, before he became a talk show guy, was an herbologist.
	Oh, all right.
	And he's got a bunch of books on...
	I mean, big deal.
	I'm an herbologist.
	What's the big deal?
	I'm an expert herbologist.
	So anyway, Savage would have been the guy that probably blended this thing.
	But it was so funny because I was watching, they had this huge fight that obviously was big in the UK. It was Ricky Hatton versus Manny Pacquiao, which is brought into Las Vegas, the half of England.
	I think he's from, where is he from in England?
	He's either from, he's not Welsh, I don't think.
	I can't remember.
	Anyway, you'll have to look it up.
	He's from Manchester, I think.
	So he's got this huge contingent.
	They follow him all over the world, and they pound drums.
	It's really quite a scene.
	And Manny Pacquiao's got this Filipino contingent, and he's actually one of the greatest fighters I've ever seen.
	So he beats the crap out of Hatton.
	And Hatton gets nailed with a left hook and falls.
	In fact, a friend of mine was twittering the fight when it happened.
	He says, oh my god, I think he's dead.
	So we call that a knockout punch.
	Anyway, he went flat against the canvas, which was sponsored by Rockstar.
	That's why it's there.
	And he actually was laid out in parallel, right on top of the Rockstar logo, as though the whole thing was like, you couldn't have asked for anything.
	You can't get a better set up.
	I mean, it wasn't like he was across it or apart.
	He was just right in the middle.
	It's just the damnedest thing I've ever seen.
	Nobody's mentioned that, of course.
	Awesome.
	Awesome.
	Anyway.
	So, looking at the news over here, and, you know, of course, Patricia came back from, she came back yesterday from Holland, her live shows, and she brought back some Dutch newspapers, and I've just been kind of scanning all the headlines.
	A couple of things that are notable.
	How's things going with Wendy, by the way?
	Yeah.
	I'm waiting for the shit to hit the fan on our comments.
	I have no idea how things are going with Wendy.
	I don't know.
	The swine flu name has changed in the Netherlands, and I see it in Germany.
	I see it in France.
	It is now officially known as the Mexican flu.
	It is not the swine flu anymore.
	But all the headlines in the Netherlands, and this is exactly what we predicted, I think one or two shows ago, the Netherlands has now announced, the Dutch government, that there's, what is it, 17 million people live in the Netherlands.
	They have on order now 34 million flu vaccinations, so that each member of...
	The Dutch population can receive two flu vaccinations before the big one hits in autumn.
	We're not quite sure if it's mandatory, but seeing as they've got 34 million, which is exactly double the population, it seems like they will make it mandatory.
	Giving a new name to two to the head.
	I think we should maybe call it two to the arm.
	So this being the true testing ground...
	I think we can see a lot more of this happening, and I have a feeling it's going to be mandatory, John.
	We've got to start looking at or find someone or talk to somebody between shows and find out what the deal is with this August flu.
	The fact of the matter is the flu, that shot that they normally put out for the winter flu, which hits hardest between November and February, They can't develop that flu vaccine until late in the game.
	Until it exists.
	Yeah, until it exists, and then they can kind of figure out what it might become.
	Then they take four candidates and make a flu vaccine, and they can't produce the flu vaccine and get it into the public domain until October, typically the first or second week of October, this thing comes out.
	And...
	I remember the exact days because a few years ago we actually had a shortage in the U.S. Anyway, so I don't get what this is.
	This is just either a hollow shot.
	I mean, it can't have any meaning, this flu shot given for the first week of October.
	It's even funkier because they're saying, well, you know, so of course we need to have some of the strain or whatever before we can create it, and they're going to use the new techniques which don't involve the old-fashioned six-month egg process, but even crazier, saying, so if the strain is different from the H1N1, they say, oh, well, we can easily morph that into whatever's necessary.
	Well, now, they do have a new way of, you know, somebody came up this within the last year or two, some, you know, it was a big deal, a big news story that, oh, we found a different way of attacking the flu virus through some other mechanism on the little animal itself.
	And...
	Maybe they're talking about that, but it was my understanding that this thing hasn't even gone through human testing yet.
	Do you think perhaps we're going to have real-time testing?
	And this is what we're looking at here?
	Is it they're going to actually experiment on the public?
	Wait a minute, never mind.
	There's no way they'd do that.
	No.
	Oh, no, that wouldn't happen.
	Don't look over here.
	Nothing to see here.
	Well, you know what, the more I look at this story, it almost feels like a payoff was due to the pharmaceutical industry.
	It's like, okay, we'll conjure up this big scare story and everyone will start freaking out and then you guys can go ahead and we already have it all on order.
	Now everyone will be prepared to take their shots.
	How about this?
	The pharmaceutical industry created this thing.
	You know, there was a couple of reports early on when the Mexican flu, swine flu, AH1N1 first appeared, that some people said, well, you know, this could have been one of those things developed in Bethesda or at some lab someplace.
	Yeah.
	Because there were some curiosities about that.
	Those stories all have been dropped.
	Yeah.
	Maybe they got a new marketing trick, which is to create some phony...
	The thing that made the flu in Mexico so odd in terms of its perhaps being invented was that it had no history.
	No history.
	What had no history, but where it formed outside of a pig farm somewhere in the middle of Mexico, as it gravitated, as it reproduced and moved further away from the source, it became almost nothing.
	It became like a dud.
	It became seasonal flu.
	Yeah.
	Mild seasonal flu.
	And it's so funny because...
	How does it go from 150 dead to, you know, nothing?
	Well, what I understand and what I've deduced, in Mexico, you know, they hand out antibiotics very easily.
	It's not like in the States or in many countries where you can go through doctor prescription.
	I think it's very, very easy to get antibiotics.
	And my feeling is that the general resistance of the population of Mexico City probably was reduced.
	Does that make any sense?
	Yeah, but antibiotics really has nothing to do with a virus.
	I mean, it shouldn't have made any difference, although it turns out that a lot of these people who died, they died of pneumonia or something.
	This whole story is fishy.
	That's all I want to say.
	Well, not nearly as fishy as the...
	Of course, this happened right after we did our last show.
	The big mea culpa letter came out for the Air Force One flyby.
	And it was the White House military director.
	He took the hit and he resigned over this.
	Yeah, he quit.
	You know what was kind of disturbing?
	Did you read his resignation letter, which was sent to the President, by the way?
	Did you read it?
	Did you have a chance to look at any of that?
	No, I didn't.
	I didn't think it was worth...
	I'm now understanding that it was probably something I should have read.
	Only for one reason and one reason only, not anywhere, was there a word that said, Hey, I'm sorry!
	There was no apology, which is like, you know, here's what happened.
	Yes, probably because he was told to do this by the president's office.
	Yeah.
	But it's so frustrating, these people.
	You're going to have to quit.
	But I was told to do this.
	Yeah.
	No, sorry.
	Just following orders.
	Just following orders.
	Don't worry about it.
	We'll give you a pension.
	Just following orders.
	We didn't know.
	That is just...
	And did you see the picture?
	Did you see the picture that they've released?
	Yeah.
	I mean, I'm telling you, that thing is photoshopped.
	That's the worst picture in the world.
	So it's flying above the Statue of Liberty, but the background, it's completely not the right New York background.
	It's got, like, New Jersey in the background.
	I don't know what the deal is.
	There's another fishy story.
	Yeah, duh.
	Somebody just sent me an interesting little note here on the swine flu.
	Now this is a good one.
	Now the U.S., this is a, I don't know, this came on some weird source, but it says, U.S. Disease Prevention Center, I don't even know what that is, claims the newly spread potentially fatal strain of swine flu virus may have originated from California.
	Oh, of course.
	The Centers for Disease Control and Protection said on Saturday, the state preceded Mexico, the alleged source of the virus.
	This is now the story is even weirder.
	As we investigated, blah, blah, blah.
	As early as March, patients were diagnosed in California with a new type of viral infection.
	The new strain of swine flu virus, H1N1, blah, blah, blah.
	So, okay, so it started in California, goes to Mexico, kills 150 people, comes back to California, and does nothing.
	Hmm.
	And meanwhile, they make such a big deal about the list here.
	Ireland is the latest to report a case.
	It says, here's how many have been confirmed.
	51 in Canada, 15 in Spain, 13 in Britain, 6 in Germany, 4 in New Zealand, 3 in Israel, 1 in Switzerland.
	Do we actually know what the symptoms are of this thing?
	Well, the symptoms that have been listed are just a high fever, achy back.
	Yeah, but not necessarily vomiting.
	I don't think that's a necessity in this one.
	No, maybe diarrhea.
	Gee, big difference.
	I was talking to the girls, and Dexter's here as well, because I was pretty sick for a good week and a half.
	I was definitely on the ropes.
	Call it Mexican flu, swine flu, I had it.
	There was no other flu going around that anyone talked about.
	So I had it.
	Oh, no, that's impossible because you weren't throwing up.
	You weren't violently ill.
	I said, I was ill.
	It's just, you know.
	Well, you had something, but the thing that's weird about what you had was you come into the office in San Francisco, which is normally a cesspool of disease.
	Yes, it is.
	And you didn't pass it on to anybody.
	Well, I didn't kiss anyone this time around.
	I'm just saying.
	Yeah.
	From the world of the pharmaceutical industry and from another one of our younger listeners to No Agenda.
	I'm going to read this email because it's disturbing.
	Hey, crackpot and buzzkill after listening to No Agenda 95 in which the 16-year-old from Gitmo Nation West wrote in.
	They might want to hear what's being taught to the children in the Midwest of Gitmo Nation East.
	I'm a 15-year-old freshman at the same high school that two of your favorite guys, Rahm Emanuel and Donald Rumsfeld, graduated from.
	Well, that's interesting.
	I didn't know they went to the same school.
	I didn't either.
	My biology teacher, that must be like, what's in D.C.? What's where all those kids go to?
	My cousins all went to it.
	Wesley, maybe?
	I don't know.
	My biology teacher recently gave us a homework assignment to learn about HPV. And what website does she tell us to go to?
	Why, www.gardasil.com, of course.
	Where better to learn about a virus than the website of the sole provider of a vaccination for it?
	There's even a nice video on the homepage featuring some girls approximately the age of those in my class.
	While the assignment had questions about how Gardasil works and why it's important, there was not a single question on the possible health risks.
	I wasn't expecting my biology teacher to ask questions about how drugs are subsidized by the government but I still find it difficult to believe that my teacher was not paid off I love you, man.
	I have attempted to convert some additional no-agenda producers, however, bringing anything up that could possibly be viewed as anti-government results in the large majority of my peers thinking I am a complete moron.
	So I have rested my case.
	Your show is the only time I ever hear about most of the stories you talk about, so please give up the great work from Mitchell.
	All right, dude.
	Excellent.
	Excellent.
	A young freedom fighter.
	A freedom ranger amongst us.
	Up and coming.
	Lovely.
	Freedom Ranger.
	We've got to use that one.
	You like that one, huh?
	Yeah.
	You should.
	So, yeah, well, that's just kind of what the...
	It just kind of pisses me off.
	This is going on in schools.
	Our kids are not safe.
	The name of the school, actually, we're talking about one.
	It's in Winnetka, Illinois, called New Trier.
	Oh, is that where Emanuel and...
	I guess.
	And Rumsfeld.
	Sounds like a propaganda center.
	And I keep reading that Tamiflu is no longer effective against the Mexican flu, which of course is Rumsfeld's company.
	I haven't heard that from anywhere.
	I'll put the links in the show notes.
	And there's some kind of semi-official looking reports about this, that it doesn't work anymore.
	For you people out there who listen to the show, Relenza.
	Switch to Relenza.
	Your lens is a little harder to use because you have to inhale it.
	It's a powder.
	Oh.
	And so you get these blister packs and this crazy device that you suck on.
	And you have this?
	I've had it.
	I don't have any with me now because I carry around Tamiflu, but I found it to be kind of interesting.
	Anyway, so you push this little thing and it pops the blister pack and then you inhale real hard to get this powder kind of in the vortex and it goes into your lungs directly.
	And it actually has a nice flavor, believe it or not.
	Of kind of, and I suppose you could probably put this in these blister packs, of powdered milk.
	It's actually kind of tasty.
	So you could also drop it in your tea.
	Uh-oh, uh-oh.
	I never hear you cough, John.
	Maybe it's time to...
	So Baxter International, who of course is one of the companies that is contracted by the government to come up with the vaccination, they're a Chicago-based company.
	I didn't realize that.
	A lot of interesting Chicago companies cropping up doing weird stuff.
	Of course, that would come right back to the...
	A Chicago mob that has now infiltrated the administration in the White House.
	Yeah, pretty much.
	This guy's got it covered.
	So I'm looking at this school...
	The website, there's a list of new Trier High School alumni.
	It's from the northern part of Chicago, just north of the city itself, which is the ritzy part.
	I mean, that's where Jesse Jackson's got a mansion.
	All these people live in this northern area.
	And some of the people that graduated from this school include Ann-Margaret.
	Adam Baldwin, Ralph Bellamy, Bruce Dern, Charlton Heston, Rock Hudson, Virginia Madsen, Penny Milford, Hugh O'Brien.
	These are just actors.
	There's a huge list of them.
	And then business executives.
	There's a few that you haven't heard of.
	Christy Hefner, because he would live in that area, of course, during that era.
	A whole slew of Mike Bloomfield, the guitarist.
	A whole bunch of musicians.
	Wow, it's a hotbed of creativity there.
	Or something.
	It's a big list.
	Rather disturbing.
	Madison, Wisconsin, the court there has upheld a rather disturbing practice.
	The police apparently are allowed to attach a GPS to your automobile, even if you are not a suspect.
	It does not require a warrant so that they can track you.
	Yeah, I think this goes on in a lot of cities.
	I know it's going on in Europe, and it's legal, or it always was, and apparently you can do this.
	I mean, isn't that somehow a breach of some kind of right somewhere, it would seem?
	I don't see how it could be.
	I think a funnier idea is for a citizens group to put these things on cop cars.
	I wonder what they look like.
	Is it kind of like a bug, like a magnet thing that you plop on?
	Yeah, it's probably a little device.
	It's probably the size of a lipstick case, maybe.
	Maybe not even that big.
	And then it's got a magnet in it.
	And you just get underneath and put it under the bumper or someplace that's...
	Where it can go.
	The way you do it right is you make the device either dirt colored or something so if it was hooked to the car and you looked under there you wouldn't necessarily see it.
	You don't want it to have a blinking light.
	But clearly it's an invasion of privacy.
	And if you're not a suspect, why would they just be allowed to do that?
	Well, the question is, why would they want to if you're not a suspect?
	The real question is...
	Just who is they?
	I just got a note from somebody on Skype saying, not to be nitpicking, but Jesse Jackson and Obama live in the South Shore.
	I live in Winnetka on the North Shore himself.
	I always thought Jesse Jackson had a place in the North Shore.
	So this is news to me.
	I really don't know anything about it.
	Anyway.
	Whatever.
	We have a couple of our listeners now that are correcting us in real time, which I think is great.
	And apologies for the last show.
	We just couldn't get the stream working at the same time.
	I'm reading a book that was recommended to me by one of our listeners, and it's a bitch of a book.
	It's like, how many pages is this thing?
	It's like 1,070 pages of small print, so very challenging for me.
	But it's been around for 50 years, and I'm about a quarter of the way through it.
	Can I guess the name of the book?
	Yes, please do.
	The London phone book.
	No.
	No, it was written in the 40s, very famous author.
	She's written another famous book, which I also haven't read.
	Honestly, I'm such a culture...
	You're not going to say Anne Rand, I hope.
	That's exactly what I'm going to say.
	Atlas Shrugged.
	Oh, please.
	Have you read this?
	I've read her stuff, sure.
	Have you read it?
	The Fountainhead is the book you want to read.
	That's actually quite entertaining.
	Well, yeah, so that's...
	I understand that they're ready to make the movie about the Fountainheads.
	The Fountainhead was made into a movie in the 40s starring Gary Cooper.
	Oh, then it's a remake.
	And there you go.
	The original's probably better.
	But Atlas Shrugged is really interesting.
	Why are you going, oh, brother?
	She is essentially a cult figure, and the people who follow her are all kind of wacky.
	It's a thing called objectivism.
	And what's your point?
	Yeah, I know.
	It makes sense with you doing this, of course.
	This philosophy she developed called Objectivism is rather, it's kind of soulless, and it's not particularly pleasant ideals that are in it.
	I'm not a big fan.
	Well, so I guess I haven't gotten to the idealistic part, but what is kind of cool is just the description of how evil government really is.
	At least that's the way I'm reading it.
	You need to read this book, huh, to get that?
	Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
	It's fascinating, though.
	It's a page-turner once you kind of get into it.
	Oh, yeah.
	No, I actually sat down and read Fountainhead in one sitting.
	It's just phenomenal.
	And by the way, anyone out there who knows that book knows what it is.
	What that means.
	Don't say it.
	Don't say anything.
	That's the next one on my list.
	No, but I thought it was a great...
	This is a book that I would never pick up to read.
	I'd look at this thing and go, uh-uh, no, no time for that.
	This is bigger than my bar of gold.
	I have a book around here I should recommend.
	And when I finished it, so by the next show I'll do a review.
	So you would not recommend having read it a long, long time ago?
	Apparently in its original first run edition?
	No, I mean, if people have never read Ayn Rand, I mean, she's a very entertaining writer, and she creates a sense of drama, and the storytelling is fairly decent.
	It's just that the underlying philosophies get on your nerves after a while.
	I actually had a roommate in college who was an Ayn Rand nut, and I found the guy to be, you know, he kept, I think most of his time was spent looking in the mirror and grooming his eyebrows, literally.
	And I think that's pretty much, to me, that's an end or end.
	Of course, you know, you might do the same, but...
	I'll let you know.
	I'll let you know how it turns out.
	Yeah, you'll be kind of a nutty guy.
	You'll be a fanatic for a short time.
	So, anything else?
	I think that's it for this week's news.
	No.
	No, man.
	Don't forget, I'm out here.
	I don't have any stories.
	There's tons of news.
	That's right.
	There's nothing you can know about.
	And it's the craziest thing.
	So I always pick up the National Enquirer and People Magazine and Us Magazine and Teen Vogue for Christina and I bring that home.
	And so I'm walking around and she says, hey, hey, hey, hey.
	And I said, what?
	It's the funniest thing.
	How long have we been married?
	22 years?
	And how long have I been a crackpot?
	You know, at least two years, maybe three years.
	And she says, is this true?
	Is this true?
	I say, what?
	That Brad and Angelina are going to split up?
	I'm like, what?
	Why would I know that?
	Because you were in the States and everybody knows what's going on here.
	And more importantly, why would I care?
	Brad and Angelina.
	I'm surprised they stay together as long as they have.
	Well, she's smoking, man.
	And she's got to be kind of wanky.
	Kind of?
	I don't know.
	She's got to be a handful.
	Any guy.
	I've got to give Brad Pitt a lot of credit because he's a good actor.
	I really like his movies and I like what he selects to do.
	Although I couldn't watch...
	Burn After Reading?
	Did you see that?
	No, I haven't seen that, but I couldn't watch that other movie where he's an old man as a baby.
	Oh, The Curious Case of Benjamin Button?
	I couldn't watch it.
	I couldn't stand why I was on the airplane.
	There's two or three movies I watched.
	When I travel across the ocean, I watch probably three or four movies, depending on which direction I'm going.
	And so I watched the new James Bond movie.
	I was thinking about this last night.
	I said, well, I can talk about movies I saw recently.
	I saw that.
	And I started thinking about it.
	I said, for one thing, I almost turned it off three times in the middle because it was more like a Jackie Chan movie.
	There was no story.
	And there was like the kind of action that was like, why is this guy having to do?
	When did James Bond become this world-class karate champion?
	You know, with all these crazy moves and crawling up buildings and doing Jackie Chan stuff.
	So I thought it was...
	And the movie started with about two or three of these scenes.
	I said, this is bull.
	I'm turning it off and I ended up watching it.
	But thinking back on it, I can't remember what it was about.
	It was so shallow.
	Oh, how I long for the days of Roger Moore and even Sean Connery when you think of it.
	So then, I tried to watch the Benjamin Button movie.
	I couldn't take it.
	It was just annoying.
	It was so annoying, I had to turn it off.
	The movie I did like, and everyone out there should definitely rant or look at it or get a copy, because it was riveting, and you wouldn't know why unless you saw the movie, Frost and Nixon.
	Oh, I saw that.
	I saw that on the way over.
	Fantastic movie.
	I had no idea...
	That Frost financed all that stuff himself.
	That he took this huge risk and almost blew it.
	Yeah, he almost went bankrupt.
	It's a fantastic story.
	It's mostly about the backstory, not so much about the debate.
	And I think it's really one of the finest films I've seen for years.
	There is one other one I'd like to mention, since I also like to watch movies from time to time when I'm traveling across the ocean.
	The Reader with Kate Winslet.
	Yeah, I didn't get that.
	I was thinking about that.
	I cried.
	I cried.
	I could not stop crying.
	I had actual tears.
	I'm like, I'm so happy.
	I'm so happy on my flatbed because I don't want anyone to see that I'm sitting here like a baby just crying.
	I'm such a pussy.
	And it's a long movie, too.
	It's like two and a half hours.
	Beautiful, beautiful movie.
	I watched Jim Carrey's Yes Man, and I think that was actually, even though it's a ridiculous formula movie, which is right out of the textbook, how to piece one of these formula flicks together.
	You know, boy meets girl, boy loses girl, boy meets her.
	But I thought it was highly entertaining, because there's a bunch of scenes that are quite funny, and Jim Carrey's quite good.
	Did you see Seven Pounds, Will Smith?
	No, I never even heard of that one.
	Yeah, it's a good movie, man.
	It's one of those that kind of unravels and it all comes together at the end.
	It's a fabulous story.
	I can't really tell the story because it would spoil it.
	But Will Smith, I think his performance in that is Oscar stuff.
	Really, really is.
	Another movie where I cried.
	Yeah, well, the Oscar movies are the ones that come out near the end of the year.
	They've got this thing set up now where...
	It's all going to be Indian movies again.
	Yeah, probably.
	I found the movie industry is in such dire straits.
	You know how movies are financed?
	There's basically two types of financing.
	Well, there's two parts to the financing.
	You have the money that just flows in from idiots who think they're going to get laid by the actresses and they can be on the red carpet.
	But the real financing is the debt financing of these movies that is all done up front.
	That's always the first money out.
	That's what real hedge funds are in that.
	And banks.
	It's pure debt financing.
	There is no debt financing anymore.
	There are Meetings going on all over Hollywood.
	People are freaking out because there is no money to make movies right now.
	There's just no money.
	Well...
	That's what I'm saying.
	Perfect opportunity.
	For what?
	For some debt financing.
	I'd love to debt finance a couple movies.
	Are you kidding me?
	Well, what's your email?
	The Hollywood moguls that listen to the show can send you a note, and you can be given organizing this.
	Yes, I could.
	I wonder if we had any Hollywood people that listen to the show, because I've been trying to get a bit part.
	What?
	As what?
	Just some guy, you know, a guy behind the counter.
	I don't care.
	At a 7-Eleven?
	Yeah.
	Hey, you kids, get away from that Pac-Man.
	Late-off old man.
	Would you like fries with that?
	Get out of my sight, you kids.
	Don't you know how to flip a burger?
	May 14th, the annual Bilderberg Conference is scheduled to be held in Greece this year.
	Oh, in Greece, oh.
	Yes.
	In Athens or one of the islands?
	It's at the five-star Nafsika Ashtir Palace Hotel in Vuliadzha Menemini, which sounds like an island to me.
	It sounds like one, yeah.
	You don't want them with the regular public.
	You have to put them out on an island somewhere.
	And this is just a crazy...
	For people who don't know what the Bilderberg Group is, started by Prince...
	Bernard of the Netherlands in the Bilderberg Hotel.
	It's essentially world leaders, royalty, the movers and shakers all come together, but the crazy thing is it also includes editors of the top publications of newspapers, magazines, but it's kind of like a fight club thing where How come we've never been invited?
	Let me think.
	I have interviewed someone who went there, the Dutch Secretary of Economic Affairs.
	And I asked him point blank.
	I said, so what did you guys discuss?
	So what did you chat about there at the Bilderberg?
	He says, I'm sorry, I can't talk about that.
	It's the first rule of Bilderberg is we don't talk about Bilderberg.
	That's because they don't talk about anything.
	It's a drinking club.
	Well, then the press that is invited, why doesn't the press just say that then?
	Oh, you know, we just hung out and drank.
	I mean, that's okay.
	I'd accept that.
	But the fact that the press has invited world press top editors and owners of publications, but the editors, and nothing is allowed to be published.
	It's irksome.
	Don't you see that hurts their credibility?
	Bill Gates used to have a thing down the Hood Canal.
	He's got some sort of a lodge there.
	And he, every year, would invite, you know, Walt Mossberg and John Markoff and all these hot shots and all these big papers that cover technology down to this brainwashing session that they had at the Hood Canal.
	And one of the rules was the same rule.
	You can't...
	What?
	You've told us this story before.
	Well, you wanted to...
	I did?
	Yeah, that you were no longer invited.
	No, no, I was never invited.
	Okay, well, I take it back.
	Continue.
	No, I was never invited, but I found out about it, and the only reason I found out about it was a fluke because they had the same rule.
	No, you can't talk about it, but we have a bunch of newspaper guys.
	This is the problem with tech reporting, by the way.
	It's not just tech reporting, but yes.
	No, I'm just saying, with tech reporting, they make people sign, and I have to say they did this with tech reporting before they did it with the general media, which is make people sign non-disclosures.
	So you sign a non-disclosure agreement, which is a legal document that says you can't talk about this or that, and sometimes there's a date attached where you can start talking about it or not.
	I mean, this is all done for the marketing department so they can carefully orchestrate how they're going to roll a product out and how they're going to keep the buzz alive and do all the rest of it.
	So there's no real reporting going on because you're signed off on all this stuff.
	By the way, I refuse to sign these things.
	And I think it's abhorrent that anybody does sign them, and they sign them at the New York Times, they sign them at the Washington Post, they sign them everyplace else.
	No, what I did was I had found out about this, the Hood Canal thing, and then I got a hold of a couple of friends of mine that went there, and I just had them tell me about it, and then I just reported on it.
	And, of course, then they canceled it, and they never had a census that I know of.
	So I was not under nondisclosure just before I left.
	We went down to Cupertino and met with my old friend Eddie Q. You know Eddie?
	Fast Eddie Q? Yeah, it's Fast Eddie Q, everybody.
	How you doing, Eddie Q, down here in Cupertino?
	Eddie Q runs the entire iTunes iPhone iPod Touch division.
	He's your buddy?
	Yeah.
	Well, it was just before the D conference when he called me up and said, yeah, Steve and I would like to meet with you about podcasting in iTunes.
	And this was before they integrated it and announced it and launched it.
	And so we went down for the meeting, and these guys are on fire down there, dude.
	They are so on fire.
	They're on fire?
	Not in actual fire, but it's just amazing, this platform that they have.
	And now in the new iPhone apps, I believe that the functionality, you'll be able to create an iPhone app where you can then sell stuff within the iPhone app.
	So you can sell your iPhone app, and then you could potentially sell, well, obviously anything in the iTunes store, but also other iPhone apps.
	So you can put your own, like, affiliate program into the iPhone app.
	And it's just, they're so smart.
	They're so onto them.
	They know exactly what to do.
	These guys are, damn, I curse them.
	I curse them.
	God, you're giving them a blowjob on the air.
	Yeah, well, that's it.
	That's all I wanted to do.
	Hold on.
	That was it.
	Now it's good.
	Well, we're going to do some stuff with them.
	We've got some ideas.
	Okay, well that's a good thing.
	Yeah, yeah.
	But I was just amazed.
	And Eddie's office, dude, he's got like every massive celebrity.
	It's like, Eddie, I love you.
	It's almost like he's a record boss.
	Well, of course he is, really.
	But from actors to sports figures, he's got...
	But he has a bunch of signed autographed pictures all over the office?
	A bunch?
	That is the office.
	I mean, there's not a wall space left.
	Because this thing is just so massive for people.
	I think I'm actually going to have to go get one now.
	Go get one what?
	An iPhone.
	I've got to get an iPhone again.
	Would you want to just get the iPod Touch?
	Well, I have the old iPod Touch.
	I could get a new iPod Touch.
	Don't get an iPhone, because all you're going to do is complain.
	Complain about it.
	I was thinking of taking my G-Phone in and just laying it on the table.
	Hey, everybody, how you doing?
	Here's my G-Phone, which I am loving more and more, by the way.
	I love the G-Phone, because I have the U.S. The Mevio offices gave me this one, and so we have the T-Mobile, I guess, on it.
	So when I'm in the States, I want to use that, because it's obviously cheaper to call around.
	So I wound up kind of using it as my primary device, and it really does rock.
	I can't help but say it.
	What operating system do you have on it?
	Because my son, who has a developer's model, upgraded to 1.5, and he says the battery life just becomes usable.
	Really?
	Yeah.
	Well, I have the most recent version.
	I mean, it's all updated.
	Yeah, I think if it's a T-Mobile phone, it's probably not 1.5.
	Well, can I see that in the, won't it tell me in the settings if I look at it?
	It should.
	About phone.
	Hold on.
	Yes, about phone.
	I have firmware version 1.1.
	Oh, I know, so you got a lot of tweets saying, hey, they won't let us upgrade to 1.5.
	So I go to my Twitter account to announce that while you're looking for this, I'm going to tell the story.
	Yes, it's 1.1.
	It's 1.1, so it's not 1.5.
	Okay.
	So I'm looking at the Twitter account to tell people we're streaming this, and my following goes from the 666, which I had on there as a kind of a gag, to 667.
	I didn't follow anybody new.
	You must have done something somewhere.
	Adam can upgrade the old iTouch to the new firmware for $10.
	So, I don't know.
	I'm telling you, I don't just follow anybody.
	I don't remember.
	No, I didn't.
	I guarantee you.
	Yesterday it was 666, and now it's 667.
	So there's some hack going on that got me up one number.
	So I'm just waiting for...
	I'm so tired, I can't remember what I was going to say.
	I lost it mid-sentence.
	Can you believe that?
	Yeah, that was bad.
	I can hardly wait for...
	I know, I remembered for Android on a netbook.
	I'm holding out.
	The first netbook that really has Android rocking, I'm buying it.
	I think these guys are on to something.
	It'll never be the platform success.
	Let's not say never, but I don't think it'll be the platform success that iTunes is.
	And everyone's trying to do this now.
	Nokia is relaunching the OV store, which keeps reminding me of ovaries for some reason.
	But they're relaunching the OV store.
	And everyone's trying to recreate this model of a marketplace, an app store, essentially the Apple app store.
	Yeah.
	But it's not working for it.
	It doesn't appear to be as successful as what Apple is doing.
	But it's kind of like the new black.
	Everybody has to have a store.
	An app store.
	Yeah, I know.
	Everybody has to have an app store, and it always has to be called an app store.
	And we totally need a No Agenda app for the BlackBerry.
	Lots of people requesting that, and I have no idea if it's hard to do.
	Somebody out there, probably one of our listeners, can just probably knock it off in a weekend.
	Well, we'll promote it.
	We'll promote it.
	We have two apps for the iPhone.
	Yes, we do.
	I've not tried either one.
	Jersey Joe at the office, he's using the original one.
	I don't know if they're the same, if they're the same functionality.
	But people do seem to like it because it'll download the podcast but also play the stream.
	That is only if we keep the stream at 64 kilobits or lower.
	Because Apple won't allow a higher quality stream.
	I guess for cost of bandwidth or something of the like.
	Well, can you get the stream in some other fashion?
	Do you have to go through the Apple everything to do everything?
	Does everything have to go through Apple?
	Does all roads lead to Apple?
	Does everything have to come out of Apple?
	It doesn't make any sense.
	Probably.
	Well, we need an Android phone app then.
	Well, Stream Furious does it very well.
	Stream Furious, we're baked in.
	We're in the listing.
	And they actually asked me for some sort of sound clips and stuff.
	I guess they want to do like a sound board along with No Agenda.
	I mean, I don't care.
	I'm just happy.
	Stream Furious is a great app.
	I use it on the...
	You should load it on your G-Phone.
	It's a great streaming radio app.
	So I've been saving this one, and now what are we, 45 minutes into the show?
	Yeah, perfect.
	Here we go, John.
	The Clean Water Restoration Act, which amends the Federal Water Pollution Control Act, now passed.
	Do you know what this does?
	Probably something bad.
	Yeah, well, it's right along what we were talking about earlier or a couple weeks back with the United Nations wanting to control the waters, the oceans, the seas, etc.
	So there were some changes in this amendment to the Act, and they've taken out...
	The language, navigable waters of the United States, and change it to waters of the United States, which is a huge difference, because in one case it's, I guess, water where you can use as transportation, and now it's all water of the United States.
	Including the water in my well?
	Yes, all water.
	So here it is.
	Waters of the United States.
	The term Waters of the United States means all waters subject to the ebb and flow of tide, the territorial seas, and all interstate and intrastate waters and their tributaries, including lakes, rivers, streams, including intermittent streams, mudflats, sandflats, wetlands, sloughs, prairie, potholes, wet meadows...
	Playa lakes, natural ponds, and all impoundments of the foregoing to the fullest extent of these waters or activities affecting these waters are subject to the legislative power of Congress under the Constitution.
	Water is now owned by the government.
	It is no longer a right.
	You have no right to water.
	The government controls water.
	And there's a huge, I mean, there's people freaking out over this.
	There are, and this was, so this was announced at the World Water Forum in March in Turkey, and where language actually from their, what do you call it, their doctrine, declaring water as a human right was removed.
	So, in the United States, the way I read this, and the way others read it as well, all water, and that was quite a list there, including your well water, John, is owned by the government and I guess can be done with as they please whenever they want to.
	Does that include recycled pee?
	laughter Why are you like this?
	It's so unnecessary.
	This is a huge deal.
	Let me ask you this.
	Would you consider water a human right?
	Well, I don't consider it a right.
	I consider it a thing, an item, a reality, a something that exists.
	Let's say access to water.
	Or can someone say, no, you can't have that water?
	Well, if they put a fence around the reservoir, I don't think I have the right to go through the fence.
	Right, but who's putting the fence around the reservoir?
	The government can now do that.
	I have mixed feelings about this, let's put it that way.
	I don't know what this means.
	I mean, I don't know why they're doing this.
	There's something fishy about it, which is today's theme, by the way.
	Fishy stories.
	So if I look at the grand overview of everything that's going on and all the horseshit that we're following when it comes to climate change, here's kind of what I'm thinking.
	Here's the theory that I'm working on.
	Call it a conspiracy theory if you must.
	So clearly, clearly, there is knowledge that in the next few years, and probably it will coincide with 2012.
	Go ahead, say it.
	Oh, brother.
	Oh, brother!
	Clearly there is knowledge that there are big changes afoot.
	And it makes sense.
	There are changes.
	The magnetic poles are reversing.
	We've got all kinds of massive magnetic and solar activity.
	You know, the Earth is changing.
	The Earth changes all the time.
	It's evolved throughout its history.
	Only 6,000 years, as you know.
	I believe that there is actual knowledge that lots of crap is going to happen and that there will be weird...
	I'm not calling for destruction and devastation.
	We're all going to die.
	But yeah, we could see flooding in weird places.
	We could totally see shit coming down.
	And I think that that's why all these stories are being launched.
	And that's why Al Gore can stay with such certainty that the science is clear.
	Well, while you're at it, play the clip I gave you.
	Oh, okay.
	Hold on a second.
	This is a Joy Behar on Larry King.
	Is she from The View, Joy Behar?
	She's the comedian.
	She's a comedian that is one of the women on The View.
	Okay.
	Well, here we go.
	She's on Larry King, and here's Joy Behar.
	She's going to be bitching about Rush Limbaugh.
	And this pertains to 2012 somehow?
	Just play it.
	Hey, get off my lawn, you kids!
	Shut up!
	Shut up!
	There you go.
	There's no problem.
	I mean, this guy, Rush Limbaugh, I used to work with him years ago, and I sort of am friendly with him in a certain weird kind of way.
	They did pills together.
	And he constantly is talking about how there is no global warming.
	Every climatologist in the world says there's global warming.
	Every scientist has said there is a problem.
	We're all on this earth together, and this guy goes out and says that there's no global warming.
	Who is he?
	What is he talking about?
	And who are these ditto heads that agree with him, I'd like to know?
	Aren't they breathing the same air that we are?
	I don't think he has a degree in meteorology.
	No, I don't think so.
	What a bonehead!
	Meteorology.
	That has nothing to do with climate.
	So, of course, that implies that either Al Gore has a degree in meteorology or that joy has a degree.
	But this is the thing that gets me about this stuff, which is every, the word, every, not some or most, majority.
	No, every single, every single one.
	This is what the problem is with this argument and why it sets off a bunch of alarms and red flags with me.
	When you start saying, because this is like going to Israel and getting an agreement, you know, with anybody, they're just going to be debating forever.
	And then scientists don't all agree on anything.
	Is that the definition of science?
	Sorry?
	Isn't that almost a definition of science, that it's not truth?
	It's debatable.
	Yeah.
	So how does every, with no exception, every climatologist and every scientist, this is bull.
	I mean, when you start hearing that, you know something's wrong.
	When will we just come to terms with the fact that the arrogance, the pure arrogance of thinking that we are going to hurt Mother Earth is ludicrous?
	We might kill ourselves, sure.
	I mean, that's highly likely.
	In fact, it's probably necessary that a whole bunch of us die pretty soon because we're growing at exponential rate.
	And so maybe that's why things like Mexican flu were introduced to kind of help that along.
	But the arrogance of thinking that we're going to ruin the Earth just slays me time and time again when I hear that.
	Yeah, I know.
	One day, you know, Krakatoa goes off and it throws up so much crap into the atmosphere that we could never duplicate, you know, a super volcano blowing and they happen all the time.
	So anyway, I just found that clip to be annoying.
	Yeah.
	You know, I mean, here's a comedian, you know, that is just, you know, full of herself.
	And it's just, I found the thing to be...
	And by the way, I have a clip.
	I can put it up.
	I'll send you a link to one of the more famous meteorologists, who's a TV guy now, going on and on about what a bunch of, you know, that this is all untrue.
	What, you mean the guy who started the Weather Channel?
	Yeah, that guy.
	John, do I have to go and pull the show where I played that?
	Don't you remember?
	We played the whole interview where he's like, this is such horseshit.
	You couldn't have played the whole thing.
	It's about 20 minutes.
	True, I played the relevant bits.
	Or maybe I played it on Daily Source Code.
	I can't remember.
	I don't think you played it on our show.
	Yeah, you're right.
	So you're the one that should have the horn honked.
	Where is it?
	In a world.
	Oh no, that's not it.
	Sorry, missed it.
	Maybe this one.
	No, not that one.
	No, sorry, can't help you.
	Saved by the bell.
	I've got to hook up a sound effect machine to this thing on my side.
	This is ridiculous.
	Ron Paul's audit the Fed bill, HR 1207, now has 148 co-sponsors.
	We're getting closer.
	Yeah.
	Getting closer.
	Now, what was my prediction on this?
	It's not going to happen.
	No, it's not yet.
	You said, but we need 218 to have it pass.
	Yeah, the Senate has to deal with it.
	Well, yeah, but I mean, step-by-step, baby steps, baby steps, and there was just a beauty, and this is in the show notes, you have to listen to this.
	I'd love to play a couple of clips from this, John.
	This is, let me, where the hell is it?
	Yeah, the clip is called, Who is Minding the Store at the Fed?
	And this is, let me just open it up.
	This is from Congress.
	This is Alan Grayson asking the Federal Reserve Inspector General about the trillions of dollars lent or spent by the Federal Reserve, where it went, and the trillions of off-balance sheet obligations.
	Now, the whole thing is about five and a half minutes.
	But just to hear...
	I just got to play a little bit of it so you can hear what is...
	how crazy...
	Obviously, they're not answering anything.
	It's what we call dead air.
	You can't hear this?
	No.
	You're not hearing anything?
	No, I'm not hearing anything.
	How is that possible?
	I hear it.
	Well, I'm just telling you.
	I heard all the...
	Hold on a second.
	All the other sound effects you did find, but this is like you're putting this through some other system.
	No, it's going through exactly the same system.
	Let me see if I... I don't hear a thing.
	Yeah, well, hold on.
	Well, it's not playing right now.
	Hold on.
	Oh, shit, you're right.
	Ah, crap.
	Well, it's no fun, then, if you can't hear it.
	Ah, shit.
	Well, I heard the Joyce Bayhard thing.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Or the Joy Bayhard thing.
	Let me just see.
	Why is this happening to me?
	Hold on.
	Is it even going through the...
	Is it being recorded?
	Let me see.
	I can't believe you're not hearing that.
	I'm hearing nothing.
	All right, well, we'll put it up for next week.
	Yeah, I'm sorry.
	I don't know what's wrong here.
	But he literally says, okay, so there's $9 trillion of off-balance sheet obligations.
	Can you please tell us where that money went?
	And she just won't answer the question.
	She's like, well, you know, it's part of our review.
	A review of $10 trillion?
	A review?
	No, it's not an investigation.
	It's a process we call a review.
	So where did that money go?
	Well, as part of our review, it's just you have to watch this clip.
	It will freak you out.
	Okay, we'll make a link to it and we'll talk about it in the next show.
	Yeah, I'm sorry.
	Meanwhile, something we were supposed to talk about this show, which I wanted to talk about last time.
	Okay.
	Apparently Arnold Schwarzenegger opened the door to legalizing marijuana in the state of California by saying it should be discussed.
	Well, you said that last show.
	Yeah, I said last show that we're going to talk about it on this show.
	Well, so what's there to talk about?
	What's there to talk about is some numbers if you start looking at them because people have this interesting argument like, well, you know, it's not going to really do the state much good because, you know, you're going to tax marijuana because the idea is to tax it, right?
	Mm-hmm.
	It's to tax marijuana.
	It's not going to really do that much because, you know, people are just going to grow it themselves.
	And I'm thinking, well, how many people grow their own tomatoes?
	I mean, in fact, how many people grow their own food?
	They don't do that.
	I mean, some people, you know, aren't interested.
	And how many people, you know, in the olden days of the pot smoking in California, and by the way, we have a good piece of artwork for this topic.
	Yeah, we do.
	The pot smoking, most people buy their pot.
	They don't grow it.
	I don't know.
	You're reliably informed on this, huh?
	Seems to me.
	So anyway, I was looking at the numbers.
	So I'm looking at the numbers, and in fact, the most they could expect to get, even though it's nothing to sneeze at, which is about the amount of tax they get from tobacco in California, which is a billion dollars.
	But the fact of the matter is we still have something like 45,000 people in jail for drug-related offenses, which costs the taxpayers between $35,000 and $70,000 a year.
	Yes, that's the big deal.
	Right, and we're talking about at least $2 billion, and this is from 1999 figures, by the way, in savings, plus the billion in taxation brings it to $3 billion, and then if you start to look at the ancillary stuff, which in other words, what does law enforcement do?
	What is the price of law enforcement over this stuff?
	We're talking another couple billion.
	And you end up with something like six billion.
	Well, but don't you see, John, that's exactly why it's taking place?
	That's exactly why it's never going to go away?
	Because all of these prisons...
	And if we had to legalize marijuana and decriminalize drug uses, which is different than legalizing, by the way, in the year 2000, California wouldn't have this huge deficit, something I think is...
	We're $42 billion in the hole right now.
	We would be up about $20 billion, and we could fix these potholes on the San Francisco Golden Gate Bridge.
	Yeah, but it's part of the military-industrial complex.
	This is exactly why it's still taking place, because these are commercial prisons.
	They get money per head, per person that they have incarcerated.
	It's exactly that reason why it will never be legalized, because it's way too big in the scheme of...
	The evil Uber lords who control us with their military police state.
	They can control us all we want, but we're $42 billion in the hole in the state of California with a 10% personal income tax.
	The public can't put up with this crap any longer, even though there's some Uber lords or whatever they are doing the prison system.
	We don't need all these drug users in jail.
	At $40,000 to $70,000 a person that we're paying for.
	We need all these drug users working for the government.
	That's a much better plan.
	Well, I'd rather have them working for the government for $40,000 a year than paying $40,000 just to feed them.
	It's ridiculous.
	Did you see the unemployment numbers that came out?
	It seems like every month it's $500,000 to $700,000 more new unemployed.
	What happened to the save or create bit?
	They've saved.
	There would have been a million.
	Oh, right.
	Okay, I'm sorry.
	I should have known better.
	So they've saved 500,000 jobs.
	There was a sector that grew by 150,000 jobs.
	Government.
	Yes, exactly.
	Aye, aye, aye, aye, aye.
	What are we going to say?
	Yeah, exactly.
	Anyway, so Schwarzenegger at least has let the door open.
	There's a big movement in California to do this, by the way.
	It's not going to happen.
	Just as you are so sure about H.R. 1207, it'll never be legalized.
	It'll never be decriminalized.
	It's just not going to happen.
	And what ever happened to Obama's promise that they were going to stop harassing these people that have the legal marijuana joints, you know, for medical purposes?
	Well, there's a lot of promises, man.
	I mean, this whole, it's kind of slipping under the radar, but, you know, Guantanamo Bay is not closed, okay?
	We know that on day two there was the big, there was the big, whoo, oh, this is the first thing I'm going to do.
	I'm going to close Gitmo, baby!
	And it's not closed, and in fact the debate is now once again raging because, well, you know, where are we going to send these people?
	We have nowhere to send them.
	It's like a hundred guys, you know?
	A hundred.
	A hundred guys.
	What is the big deal?
	You can incarcerate 45,000 people who use drugs.
	And it looks like this is just going to be a throwback to the Bush administration.
	Oh, it's starting to look more like Bush 2.
	It sure is.
	Bush 3, you mean.
	It sure does.
	Yeah, I guess it is.
	Bush 3.
	In so many things.
	You know, the same for the wiretapping, you know.
	And have you seen any of these Eric Holder hearings with the attorney general, essentially, about prosecuting the Bush administration officials for about prosecuting the Bush administration officials for sanctioning waterboarding and other EITs?
	Yeah, I like the way they're sneaking that one in.
	Oh, man.
	Thank you.
	I think they should.
	Well, of course they should.
	But what gets me, and this hit me on the plane, it's like, just before I left I was watching this, and then of course the question is, did Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker of the House, did she know that these enhanced interrogation techniques...
	Waterboarding were being used and she said, oh no, I was only told that there was a legal opinion, of course, thank you lawyers of the world, there was a legal opinion that it was not actually torture and that's what she was briefed on.
	But everyone knows that of course she knew what was going on.
	But what kills me is that...
	We have these huge discussions about simulating drowning on someone.
	Not a nice practice.
	You know, throwing caterpillars into confined spaces with people who freak out over it.
	Not a nice practice.
	But at the same time, you do realize that we are killing each other.
	There are people shooting bullets at each other.
	And, you know, tanks and blowing up people from helicopters.
	That is not a discussion.
	Oh, that's all fair.
	No, that's okay.
	The irony of it just goes beyond me.
	I was talking to the guy who made my omelette the last day I left at the hotel.
	Frank.
	Frank.
	And he says, man...
	Frank making my omelette.
	I don't know how he got into it, but he says, man, you know, you got these guys over there in Iraq and Afghanistan and just blow 30 people up.
	We can't win a war like that.
	That's not fair.
	They're not playing fair.
	Sounds like the...
	Flip the omelet, Frank.
	Just flip it for me, will you, baby?
	It's not fair.
	So back to the marijuana topic just for a second.
	My son asked me, he says, so what is this legalized marijuana thing you got?
	Is that because of Adam?
	And I want to make it clear that it's not.
	It's because of the taxes and the stupidity.
	I do not advocate anybody using drugs, and I, in fact, excoriate you constantly for smoking tobacco.
	I'll have you know I have not smoked marijuana for the past five days.
	And if anybody out there would notice, it doesn't seem to make any difference with you.
	Exactly.
	But you're still smoking tobacco.
	Very little, actually.
	Anyway, the point is that, no, this is just a practical matter.
	I'm sick and tired of it.
	I'm sick and tired of myself.
	I'm sick and tired of being unhealthy.
	I'm going to the gym starting Tuesday.
	My daughter is committed to drag me in two times a week.
	Hey, baby, getting my guns.
	Oh, yeah, baby, look out.
	No, I'm tired of it, John.
	After that bout with swine flu, I've got to stop this shit.
	I've got to stop smoking.
	I've just got to stop everything.
	It's just I've become so unpleasant.
	Well, there goes your office meetings.
	Yeah.
	In the staircase.
	So, well, good luck with that.
	Well, thank you.
	Thank you for being so supportive.
	Well, I think you've tried it before.
	I hope you can do it this time.
	I can.
	But going to the gym probably does help every once in a while.
	Everyone should do that.
	Two times a week to start off with.
	Then your knees give out.
	I'm going to come back to San Francisco in June.
	I'm going to be so pumped up, baby.
	And I'm going to be out there for a long time.
	I'm going to be out for like a month.
	Oh, no.
	So I've got to get a hardware set up so we don't dick around with all that stuff every single time.
	So it just works.
	So you're going to be able to stream, you think?
	Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
	I've got to make sure that that's all set up.
	While we're at it, John, why don't we talk about...
	Well, let's go to...
	Yes.
	I'm sorry.
	No, exactly.
	No, you're right.
	We are the Knights of the No Agenda.
	Knights of the No Agenda.
	And we suck.
	Let's talk about donations.
	Hi, Adam and John.
	I'm the one who donated $48.71, which is the one...
	He doesn't want his name mentioned, I don't believe.
	Okay.
	Oh, I remember this one.
	This was a wacky code we never, ever would have gotten.
	Yeah.
	I'm a registered health information technician through the American Health Information Management Association responsible for data integrity, blah, blah, blah, which is kind of interesting because one of the big stories this week is somebody stole all the data from the Virginia health care system.
	Oh, really?
	I didn't know that.
	Yeah, some hacker.
	In fact, I haven't seen the follow-up on this story.
	Maybe somebody can send me a tweet or something if there's anything new.
	But some guy stole 10 million records, or more than that.
	The states, apparently most of Virginia's health care information, and then deleted the files on the servers, and then found the backups and deleted them.
	And said, give me $10 million or I'm putting these records into the public domain.
	I'll give them to the highest bidder.
	And what exactly are these records consist of?
	It's like all the health care information.
	The person's name, their health record, every visit to every doctor, social security number.
	But it's really not going to be that exciting because as we've determined, all of this information is essentially insurance codes.
	Some of it.
	I don't know.
	Well, yeah, this is what we learned.
	Besides the demographic data about the patient, it's not like there's hand entries by Dr.
	Spock saying, well, I saw this patient, and this is where his symptoms, and this is what I prescribed.
	We don't know what it could be.
	Yes, we do.
	We do know this.
	What's in there is one of 20,000 insurance codes, and that is your medical history.
	It's not like your GP has entered all of this data meticulously the way he would in his own notes, which is the danger of this type of digitized healthcare being implemented by IT specialists.
	Well, anyway, the point is he's got this stuff and he wants $10 million.
	That's cool.
	So the FBI and everybody's spending all their time wheelspinning trying to track this guy through IP addresses, MAC addresses, and whatever they can do.
	Good luck.
	Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
	Good luck.
	If the guy is so bold to come out with this, you can be sure that he's either mobbed up, Russian mob or something.
	They're probably out of Bulgaria or someplace.
	And he's got so many covers, you know, in terms of IP spoofing that they're never going to figure out who it is.
	Never.
	So 4871.
	Alright, here we go.
	You actually discussed the meaning of the number with the next topic of just No Agenda 95, blah, blah, blah.
	The code 4871, it's actually 487.1, is the ICD-9 International Classifications Diseases for Swine Flu.
	Ah!
	Technically, there are three to choose from.
	4870, which is 487.0, influenza with pneumonia.
	487.1, influenza with other respiratory, i.e.
	cough.
	Or 487.8, which is influenza with other manifestations.
	I don't really see the difference there with us, too.
	Anyway, it says every October new and modified codes are added to the code book.
	They may add a specific swine flu code by next fall.
	They did add code 488.
	So anyone who wants to give us 488 bucks would be good.
	Influenza due to the avian influenza virus after all the bird flu hysteria.
	Anyway.
	There's other ones Siri mentions, by the way, like codes like 305.00, which is alcohol intoxication slash abuse.
	I didn't know about this international classification.
	No, it's a standard.
	This is probably the stuff that was stolen by this guy in Virginia.
	Yes, insurance codes.
	635.9 could reveal an elective abortion.
	295.90 could reveal schizophrenia.
	Do we have any donations or we can just move on?
	Is there anything worth mentioning or are people not giving us any money anymore?
	Is it all over?
	It's just done.
	Are we toast?
	We'll go through the specific people next Thursday, but I would advise people to please donate.
	Please donate.
	What I saw Thursday night relates, or Friday night I guess, relates to this.
	One of the main reasons I like marijuana is because it appears to help against my mild form of Tourette's Syndrome, interestingly enough.
	Yes, and by the way, I think that Tourette's syndrome that you have is responsible for your occasional outbursts.
	Oh, you know what?
	If you do an MRI of my brain, the...
	The ticks and twitches are related to firing of synapses in the brain.
	It's coordinated.
	It's all built in.
	It could totally have to do with that.
	I don't know.
	It's a weird disease and no one can do anything about it.
	At least I'm not...
	Well, in fact, I am saying a lot of nasty swear words as well, but I don't do it in the supermarket, typically.
	Now, one of the things that I saw, there was a really good Tourette's special on PBS some years ago that I watched.
	And it was interesting because the number of people who just sit around cussing all the time with Tourette's is very low.
	It's very few.
	Very low, yeah.
	One in a couple hundred.
	But they are the funniest.
	They're the most fun to hang out with.
	I was actually on an airplane with one of them who came on.
	I love this.
	Hey, cocksucker!
	Yeah.
	I know.
	No, they took...
	The guy comes...
	I knew something was amiss when he started coming on the plane to begin with, because for one thing, he had a rolly bag, but he had the thing turned around backwards.
	So the wheels were not making contact.
	They were just dragging along.
	They were just dragging along.
	That's a severe case.
	And he was cussing.
	And so I said, ah, I already seen the special, and he had the twitches.
	And so he sits down, and he was in first class.
	And he sits down, and he starts cussing as people come on the plane, because he got on early.
	So as people go by, he goes, son of a bitch, son of a bitch!
	I suffer from this, so I know what it is.
	What's weird about this syndrome is there's...
	And a lot of people will have like guttural...
	I've obviously studied this.
	People make guttural sounds and really weird things.
	And what it is is you know that you're going to twitch or you know that you're going to make some kind of sound or...
	And it wells up, and you almost can't...
	Well, you obviously can't stop it, although I have a very uncanny knack of being able to stop it when I'm on camera.
	I don't know why.
	But it is certain types of sounds and words.
	This is why cocksucker is...
	You'll hear that a lot with Tourette patients.
	I don't think son of a bitch is one they use a lot.
	Are you sure you said son of a bitch?
	No, he may have been cussing some other way.
	Fuck, fuck, fuck!
	You know how nice it is to say fuck?
	You know, it's like...
	Yeah, it could have been that.
	Whatever the case was, I recognized what it was, and I was amused by it.
	Because it's amusing.
	It's just amusing.
	It's very amusing, but the guy got kicked off the plane.
	They finally took him off.
	He was too disruptive.
	On Real Time with Bill Maher, one of our favorite writers was on, Seth MacFarlane.
	And he has Tourette's Syndrome.
	He has exactly what I have.
	And it was really fun to watch.
	Because I can see it.
	I can see where he's trying to control it.
	And he's got little...
	My sisters would call it jidgets, is what they'd call it.
	And he's got a little twitch with his head thing going on there.
	And I noticed it immediately.
	I'm like, oh man, the guy's got Tourette.
	And what happens is, when you're...
	He's into the vibe, and he's laughing, and it was funny, and he was on the ball, and he was killing.
	He was really, really good.
	And then it really starts to happen, because now he's not paying attention to it.
	It's like, wow.
	It was good for me as a fellow sufferer.
	I'm like, there you go.
	And it's interesting to watch.
	It's interesting to watch someone with Tourette.
	They're not boring.
	Yeah, well, it's kind of interesting.
	I mean, it's interesting once in a while.
	I mean, the cussing ones are the more interesting of the group.
	Of the clan.
	I mean, you basically have a couple of minor tics that no one would even notice.
	But it moves around.
	It can be in my neck.
	It can be in my blinking of eyes.
	It could be in my arm.
	It's really crazy.
	It's crazy.
	I've never seen the arm thing.
	But then once you go into a fit of rage for a very short time, which I think is somehow related.
	Now...
	The one thing that was in this special, which I've always found the most fascinating about the Tourette's sufferers, is that they're all apparently, and you kind of deny being this way, clean freaks.
	No, I'm not a clean freak.
	I'm not.
	But I don't know that you're not.
	Because I'd admit it if I was.
	I'm not.
	Not necessarily.
	What are you trying to say?
	I think you might be a clean freak.
	Hmm?
	You keep your desk rather clean?
	No, because I never do anything at it.
	Well, that's another story.
	Maggie keeps it clean.
	Maggie's the one who cleans the shit up.
	I never clean anything.
	I wind up making joint filters out of the papers.
	You always get tired in a very clean freakish way.
	I what?
	I'll have to think about this.
	No, I'm not a clean freak.
	I'm not a clean freak.
	I'm not.
	I know, but most likely...
	Cocksucker!
	Cocksucker!
	I'm not a clean, clean, clean freak!
	Anyway, so they had all these Tourette's guys, and they had a lot of elements of OCD, although they didn't have OCD. No, I do have OCD. I totally have OCD. Well, there you have it.
	Like touching the light.
	There are all kinds of little habits.
	I've never been that severe, like not stepping on the cracks in the pavement, but that's a very, very common form of it.
	So yeah, I totally have OCD. But that's gotten better.
	The whole thing has gotten better mainly because of marijuana.
	What can I tell you?
	I love this stuff.
	It could be.
	I love this stuff.
	It really calms me down.
	It makes me feel good about myself.
	But I've come to terms with it.
	Just talking about it really helps.
	It was a huge problem when I was a kid.
	It was like, you know...
	Was it diagnosed properly when you were younger?
	Well, what do you mean properly?
	Well, someone said, this kid's got Tourette's.
	You're going to have the time of your life watching them.
	Yeah.
	Get him a TV show.
	This is cool.
	Yeah, and there's...
	Well, my dad had it, or still has it.
	And interestingly, my cousin has it, who's just a sweet kid, brilliant kid.
	And when we had the family reunion, and I didn't know this, my cousin came up to me.
	So my first cousin.
	It's her son.
	So he would be my nephew, right?
	Yeah.
	So my cousin Lucy comes up.
	Lucy, by the way, she was the one that was married to Christopher Buckley.
	Christopher Buckley?
	You know, she's in that whole Washington clan.
	Christopher Buckley?
	Yeah, the writer.
	She was married to him?
	She was.
	They're divorced now.
	Huh.
	Yeah, he used to hang out.
	He just came out with a book, you know.
	I wonder if she's in the book.
	Oh, was it like a biography type thing?
	Well, it's mostly about his dad and mom, but he probably has that stuff in there.
	She might be.
	I think Connor...
	I guess Connor's their kid.
	I think so.
	That I don't know, because...
	I think so.
	Well, anyway...
	So he has it, and she came up to me and said, you know, it would be so cool if you could just chat with him a little bit and let him know that it's okay.
	Because, you know, it's tough.
	He's like eight or nine years old.
	It's weird, because you're a freak, essentially.
	Because you're not normal.
	I guess.
	I mean, if you didn't mention it to me, I probably would have never picked up on it.
	Really?
	Yeah, really.
	It's so mild.
	It's like ridiculously mild.
	I mean, just like a couple of little twitches that could come from anything.
	And, you know, you're maybe a little OCD, but it's not really noticeable.
	And a lot of people are clean freaks, so that doesn't mean much.
	Well, of course, the times when we see each other, I'm usually baked.
	So that would explain it.
	Well, I mean, I guess...
	Could be.
	That could be it.
	But it's just, to me, it's not real noticeable, but I'm not perhaps the most observant person when it comes to these kinds of things where I'm always looking for that guy.
	I wonder what syndrome he's got.
	It looks like he's got OCD, and he's manic depressive, and he's bipolar, and he's this and he's that.
	He just doesn't care.
	Well, anyway, that's why it was so interesting when I got tapped to do a TV show when I was 19.
	I was like, oh my god, this is the last thing I need.
	I'm going to be on TV and be like a fucking Twitch bot.
	And somehow I learned to control it without drugs, by the way.
	I can do segments and I can do shows and interviews and there's nothing and the camera goes off and then it's back.
	Yeah, well, that probably triggers something.
	A performance gene or something gets triggered.
	It shuts all that stuff off.
	I know that when I go on camera, I could be coughing and wheezing or have a cold and I'm clear as a bell.
	I never cough or choke up on the camera.
	And then when it's over, I'm coughing again or whatever if I happen to be sick at the time.
	I don't know.
	It's just something.
	It's professionalism, my friend.
	That's what we call that.
	And I want people to go to Dvorak.org slash NA and give us a hand.
	We'll mention your name this coming Thursday.
	Yeah.
	Please, $50 or $100 would be good.
	And a $24 subscription would be good.
	And even $2 a month.
	We don't care.
	Yeah.
	I need medical help.
	I need medical attention.
	It's going to cost me an arm and a leg.
	People are always asking what we're going to do with the money.
	Have we spent a single dime of that money yet?
	Not that I know of.
	What do you mean?
	Hold on.
	You're the one controlling the purse strings.
	Are you sure?
	Yeah, we actually have a little pot full of money still.
	We haven't done jack shit with it.
	We have to do a website.
	We got a website we're working on.
	We're doing one of these Squarespace ones.
	Yeah, people will believe that when they see it.
	Well, I'm going to call these guys up this week and say, hey, where's our, you know, because there's some people developing it for us, and see how far along they've gotten.
	Okay.
	Groovy.
	Groovy.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. Please go there.
	Yeah.
	And so I'm back now, so I'll be able to work a little bit on our No Agenda stream, which I've completely neglected.
	We have the IRC channel, which we'll be implementing hopefully this week, which is cool.
	One of our producers set that up.
	I have a new interlude.
	A new interlude?
	Oh, yeah.
	Do you have it ready to go?
	Can I put it on?
	Yeah, it's done.
	My FTP site seems to have blocked me for some reason.
	I don't know why, but I'm going to have to get that fixed.
	Also, we got an interesting 500 rupees from someone I want to talk about.
	Rupees?
	Through PayPal?
	No, he sent me a 500 rupee bill.
	Oh, okay.
	Cool.
	Pranath Parikh.
	He wants me to read his letter in that Indian accent I do.
	Okay, cool.
	Really?
	An Indian guy asked you to do that?
	Yeah, he says it's hilarious.
	That's cool.
	I like it.
	I like it.
	I don't know if I'm getting...
	I haven't been able to get into that voice much recently.
	I don't know why.
	Practice.
	It comes and goes.
	It comes and goes.
	Just practice.
	Are you on Twit today?
	No, I'm not.
	My son's in town and we're going off to do some stuff.
	Okay, cool.
	Alright, I'm going to go read the rest of my Ayn Rand novel.
	Don't do that!
	Be happy the children today are reading.
	Dammit.
	No agenda library.
	No agenda library.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Alright, I was a bit over the map today, John, but I'm so jet-lagged.
	It was a fast show.
	Yeah, rocking.
	But we missed a lot of big stuff that's happening in the world.
	This whole thing in Pakistan is just spinning out of control.
	Obama, if you saw him with Karzai of Afghanistan, they're in Turkey.
	Obama's going to address the Islamic world, and he didn't show up at prayer day.
	There's so many things going on.
	Well, we'll get back to it.
	Not to mention that in the United Kingdom, they've figured out how to make up for all the deficit spending they're doing.
	Can you guess?
	Can you guess?
	People making over £150,000 will now be taxed at a 50% rate.
	50%.
	Half your money goes to the government who are watching porn movies with their husbands.
	I feel good.
	I feel groovy.
	Yeah, they're using your money to watch porn.
	Yeah.
	Coming to you from the Crackpot Command Center located in the southwestern quadrant of Gitmo Nation East, better known as the United Kingdom, my name is Adam Curry.
	And from the Buzzkill Bunker here in northern Silicon Valley where it's beautiful today, I'm John C. Dvorak.

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