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	Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
	From opposite corners of Gitmo Nation, time again for No Agenda on this Thursday, February 26, 2009.
	This is No Agenda.
	Streaming from Gitmo Nation East, from the Crackpot Command Center in Southwest London, I'm Adam Curry.
	And I'm John C. Dvorak here in Silicon Valley North, where it's raining.
	And it's nice and cloudy here in London as well.
	Yes, important music means important stuff coming your way.
	It's Craig Vaughn and Buzzkill in the morning.
	Hey John, how you doing?
	It's good.
	Yeah, I miss you man.
	We haven't actually, we haven't spoken since the last show, have we?
	No, no, you've been in meetings.
	No, I have not.
	I try to stay away from them.
	I love the meetings we have because I've got Skype.
	You know, I use the same Skype connection that we're using for the show.
	And so I can completely control everything.
	I can mix all audio levels.
	So, you know, I'm usually editing during the meetings.
	Oh, Adam, what?
	Hey, hey, hey.
	Call my name.
	Yeah, I'm here.
	Do you ever put a sound effect in?
	Absolutely.
	Usually it's like a reverb or something, do something funny, but...
	Anyway, I try to stay away from too many meetings.
	I do have one after the show today.
	Yippee.
	New word out on the street?
	A new word.
	Octomom.
	Octomom.
	Didn't someone offer her...
	A million dollars!
	A million dollars to be in a porn?
	Who wants to see that?
	Who knows?
	I'd take the money.
	Octomom.
	Who fits in the Octobox?
	You know what the Octobox is?
	I used to.
	The Octabox is what they use on CNBC when they have eight people.
	Oh right, the Octabox, right?
	Eight people on the screen.
	I've actually seen the Dekabox where they had ten people on the screen.
	Phenomenal.
	Then you know it's really important, right?
	And he's like, oh, stop everything.
	I mean, turn up the volume.
	They've got the Octabox, honey.
	The Octabox.
	It's bad enough.
	Top of the news.
	Let me get to the story.
	It's breaking as we speak.
	Oh, okay.
	The stories are coming one after another.
	Wait a minute, wait a minute.
	Breaking news.
	This is no agenda.
	We have breaking news.
	John C. DeVore with breaking news.
	Breaking news in this case is no pun intended because we're talking about cow flatulence again and sheep belching.
	So there's a breaking aspect to it.
	Okay, hit me.
	Apparently, according to all these articles that just showed up, in fact, in today's Wall Street Journal, it turns out that sheep belching may account for 12% of man-made global warming.
	Okay, this is in the Wall Street Journal, you say?
	Yeah, today's Wall Street Journal, big story on sheep belching, because the sheep apparently belch methane.
	And then if I was looking this up a little bit, and according to one story, 12% of Australian greenhouse gases come from livestock flatulence.
	Again, another breaking story.
	Meanwhile, I'm looking at all these stories, and if you start scratching the surface of global warming, or as they now call it, climate change, because the other word was getting rid of too much.
	Wasn't working anymore.
	Wasn't working.
	But I like it.
	I still like it.
	Global warming, it sounds better.
	So if you scratch the surface of it, you keep coming up with the same thing.
	Vegans with an agenda and vegetarians.
	As though somebody came up with this neat idea some years ago that if you get on this global warming kick, then you can attack the livestock because at some point, because of their belching and farting, you could attribute global warming to them.
	And so I run into the newspaper in Ontario called The Standard.
	St.
	Catharines is the town, St.
	Catharines Standard.
	And I think the headline kind of like says it all, and it's about global warming, but the headline is, we need to solve the, now quote marks, meat problem.
	Ah, yes.
	I have a meat problem that I need solving too.
	And you can email me.
	This is unbelievable.
	But it makes so much sense.
	Because, you know, we know that this satellite failed to separate from the payload from the cone.
	How ironic.
	Yeah, this was the big fail.
	This was the satellite that was actually going to measure the sheep belching and cow flatulence as a part of man-made climate change from space.
	You know, it's out of control.
	I wonder what was going on during the era where the entire western plains were covered with millions and millions and millions of bison.
	Well, surely you know that bison...
	They must have farted.
	No, they don't fart, man.
	By the way, I have done quite a bit of sheep shearing in my day.
	When I was much younger, we lived just south of Amsterdam in a small farming village.
	And it was a lot of fun, really.
	You know, the old-fashioned way, with shears.
	Yeah.
	And I have held many a sheep between my legs.
	There's a great drop for you.
	I've held many a sheep between my legs, but I've never heard one belch, ever.
	Have you?
	Well, no.
	Actually, we have a sheep.
	And does he belch?
	I've never noticed it.
	Maybe when they go, bah, that's actually a belch.
	Well, I think I can tie a couple things together.
	Sounds like a belch.
	The meat problem.
	I like that, that you've latched on to that.
	Because it hit me earlier this week that the smart grid...
	Of course it has to do with energy power, but it has to do with a lot more.
	And I started looking into it, into the smart grid.
	Now a lot of the money for the smart grid will be dished out by an outfit called, I'm sure you've heard of them, the Western Area Power Administration.
	Have you heard of them?
	No, actually I haven't heard of them.
	Oh, okay.
	Wow.
	Well, the Western Area Power Administration, I'm just reading from their website, WAPA.gov, part of the government, as a part of the Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, which of course is the The big stimulus package.
	It grants the Western Area Power Administration the authority to borrow up to $3.25 billion from the U.S. Treasury.
	It has a whole bunch of...
	Basically, they hand out the grants.
	And so as I'm looking through, you know, just going down as deep as I can, right?
	Any grants we can get?
	Well, interesting.
	So they're handing out a lot of money to GE and IBM. These are the two corporations who are going to receive most of this smart grid money.
	And IBM writes about, well here's a little piece from IBM as it pertains to their grant.
	The world is becoming instrumented.
	By 2010 there will be a billion transistors per human, each one costing one ten millionth of a cent.
	The world is becoming interconnected with a trillion networked things, cars, roadways, pipelines, appliances, pharmaceuticals, and even livestock.
	The amount of information created by those interactions grows exponentially.
	And as you look through it, a part of this smart grid will be tracking livestock.
	Ah.
	So, of course, how do you track livestock?
	And also, livestock feed, I'm sure, is going to be a part of it.
	So when you track livestock, it's very simple, because even my pets are chipped.
	They all have a little chip inserted, and it's an RFID chip, and they can track each individual piece of meat, all a part of the meat problem.
	That is not far from embedding it into humans, John.
	Then we're very, very close to a complete global matrix that just hovers around us, being tracked everywhere.
	So this smart grid, I think, needs...
	Well, you already have that with you, but it's being done through your phone.
	Yeah, exactly.
	Because we talked about that, about my Nokia, and I'd installed Google Maps with Latitude.
	By the way, after the show, the battery has not run down.
	It stopped.
	Oh, they probably disconnected it remotely.
	And then I'm reading about Nokia.
	Yeah, I got a lot of time between meetings.
	So I'm reading about Nokia.
	Do you know that they got a half a trillion...
	Was it 500?
	I'm sorry.
	I may be wrong.
	It was 500 million.
	Half a billion, yeah.
	They got a half a billion euro loan from the EIB. The European Investment Bank, who by the way, whose charter is to help out small and medium enterprises.
	I don't think Nokia quite qualifies as a small and medium enterprise.
	God, I wouldn't think so.
	By the way, EIB also stands for the Excellence in Broadcasting Network.
	Rush Limbaugh.
	Rush Limbaugh.
	So the EIB, which, you know, God knows, it's a part of the European Union.
	They're a shareholder in this bank.
	You know, so they just hand out this money to Nokia.
	Well, not handing out, it's a loan.
	But, you know, the implications, I think, are pretty severe when you think about, you know, so what if...
	What if the EU says, hey, Nokia, here's this money, but put this chip in instead of that one.
	Use our souped-up version.
	I mean, who protects us from that?
	Who checks on that stuff?
	Is there a way to check?
	Can you log?
	Can you see what your phone is doing?
	I have serious security concerns about this.
	I think in your case you should.
	Yeah, but in general, it's not just me.
	Look, I'm sorry for saying that.
	I'm not worried.
	Let's be clear.
	It's my new one.
	I say it to my wife now.
	No, no, I want to be very clear.
	Let's be clear now.
	He said that a number of times.
	He also said, by the way, one time during this speech, which we're going to get into later, Obama did go off camera, off script, and when he did his little ad lib, it was like a one-sentence ad lib about something.
	Mm-hmm.
	Actually, he did it twice.
	The other one was a joke about Joe Lieberman or Joe Biden.
	He said, look.
	One time, he went off script.
	He had to say, look.
	I'm pretty sure that the Joe Biden quip was written in there.
	They could have been.
	Yeah, because I read the transcript, which I think came out almost simultaneously.
	Is that what...
	Does he hand the speech to the Speaker of the House and the Vice President when he comes in?
	What's in the vanilla envelopes that he hands to them?
	Check for a million dollars.
	Shut up!
	It's one of those big phony checks that unfolds.
	Here, Joe...
	I'm sorry, it's not just Joe Biden, the Vice President.
	It is our Stimulus Czar.
	Yeah, Stimulus Czar.
	The guy who doesn't know how the Internet works.
	Apparently, we've discovered that Joe Biden doesn't know what a website is.
	Now, if this was a Republican administration, they would be all over this.
	I have it for you.
	Hold on.
	I saved it.
	I saw you put it on...
	On Dvorak.
	In fact, I just cut it into a Mevio today for tomorrow.
	It's so funny.
	Here it comes.
	This is Joe Biden being interviewed on CBS Early Show.
	But by the way, the journalist is a douche.
	I mean, listen to her.
	It's so stupid.
	By the way, do you know the website?
	You know, I'm embarrassed.
	Do you know the website number?
	I should have it in front of me, and I don't.
	I'm actually embarrassed.
	I'm going to call your office directly, too, and get it later.
	It is recovery.gov.
	Recovery.gov.
	Is that up and running already?
	So, a couple observations here.
	First of all, maybe Joe's really smart, and he actually means the IP address.
	Oh, that'll be all, please.
	Do you know the IP address of that website?
	Because he's a command line hacker, obviously.
	But then to have the interviewer say, is that up and running already?
	Is she under a freaking rock?
	Is that up and running already?
	Well, maybe she was doing her job trying to catch him saying, I don't know, when the fact, of course, has been running forever.
	Well, and it's still stagnant.
	How long have I been looking at this thing?
	For three weeks?
	No change.
	Announcements.
	The last announcement was still February 18th.
	Well, it reflects the recovery itself.
	But he keeps using this, and it keeps being said.
	And showing up in conversations with people, particularly on Twitter, say, well, you know, hey, man, that's transparency.
	We've got recovery.gov.
	Yeah, but they actually have to put something on it.
	Hmm.
	So, yeah, anyway, so Biden...
	By the way, I saw you...
	Another thing that was kind of weird, because I saw you use this on the show yesterday or whenever, is the new Broadway play about...
	Oh, Shrek, Shrek the Musical?
	Shrek the Musical, where it's just a lot of belching and farting, talking about it being thematic for today's show, apparently.
	What are they thinking?
	Do I want to go to a Broadway play to watch some weird-looking fat guy farting with his girlfriend?
	It just doesn't sound like entertainment to me.
	I think kids like it.
	Ugh.
	Yeah.
	I don't know.
	You shouldn't be encouraged to like that crap.
	It was cute.
	It was funny.
	It wasn't funny at all.
	Yeah, you're a grumpy old man.
	Maybe.
	In this case, yes.
	Like you don't fart.
	My friend has got nothing to do with that.
	I'm not going to go do it on stage.
	It depends on how much they pay you.
	Hold on a second.
	Curry's gone to something here.
	So let's go over the speech.
	Unless you've got something else to say.
	I've got tons of stuff, but I'd love to go over the speech with you.
	I've got the speech play-by-play.
	I want to bore people's tips, so I'm going to give myself a 10-minute time limit.
	Let me just set it up for you.
	Because we need a little bit of background.
	It is highly unusual for a new president to address Congress this soon.
	Joint session.
	Yeah, joint session.
	Isn't this normal?
	Everybody called it a State of the Union speech.
	What is with everybody?
	It wasn't a State of the Union speech.
	It wasn't a State of the Union, no.
	It was an address to joint sessions of Congress.
	But everybody, newspapers and bloggers and everyone between here and there.
	And it wasn't.
	And when I look at this through my European eyes, man, it's no wonder people think we're dicks.
	It's absolutely an atrocious show.
	I mean, all it is is, oh, let's stand up and clap again.
	Oh, let's stand up and clap again.
	We're going to lead.
	Oh, let's stand up again.
	Oh, yes.
	It's just like...
	I mean, don't you feel that?
	Oh, it starts off, I thought I was watching an NFL game.
	For one thing, it began late.
	He was 15 minutes late on his delivery, but that's beside the point.
	It starts off, and by the way, I was watching it on Fox initially, and I could barely take looking at Shepard Smith, because that guy has, if anybody has reptilian eyes, it's this guy.
	It's Shep Smith.
	Shep Smith, Studio B. That's right.
	We're going down to New Orleans.
	By the way, consumer confidence down to 25%, lowest since 1967 when the index was invented.
	Okay, so Nancy Pelosi's up there.
	She looks like Cher.
	Her hair is definitely somewhat out of control.
	She's got a huge chest, at least in that outfit she had on.
	Yeah, well, it's probably stuff with Kleenex.
	Wads of money.
	Wads of money.
	So anyway, so it starts off, and they bring in these guys and make an announcement, and then they bring in the Supreme Court, who looks like they're bringing in a football team, with a bunch of people on either side leaning over, high-fiving, saying, pointing, da-da-da-da-da, and they come through, you know,
	these guys, and they're applauding them, and they sit down, and then they go on and on and on, and then they bring in Obama, who comes in like a football quarterback, and And there's all these guys leaning over, shaking his hand, patting him on the back, high fives, you know, knuckle punches, the whole thing goes on and on and on.
	Fisting, fisting.
	It's unbelievable.
	And so they finally get, and he's pointing, by the way.
	He's pointing over here.
	He is like Arsenio Hall, kind of like, hey man, I see you over there.
	How you doing?
	Hey, hey, hey, he's pointing, he's pointing, he's pointing.
	I'm just thinking, what is this bullshit?
	That's okay.
	I'm okay with that.
	I mean, it's okay to have a president who's kind of, in this century, Yeah, okay, fine.
	Pointing is in the century and coming in high-fiving you to give a speech.
	So he goes up and he does a standing ovation.
	Big standing ovation.
	He's up there.
	It begins.
	He gets up to about 6.10.
	He goes on for about five minutes before he actually gets started, 6.15.
	Everyone's standing o, standing o.
	So now he starts to...
	He just starts to make his intro, and everybody jumps back up and gives him another standing o.
	Then they go down, and then he mentions Michelle up in the audience, and they give her a standing ovation.
	So it was Speaker of the House, Vice President, members of Congress, and I believe the First Lady is around here somewhere.
	I mean, it was slick, dude.
	Come on, that was slick.
	Why does she get a standing ovation?
	What did she do?
	She's, well, I'm not even going to say it.
	She's doing plenty.
	Okay, so you think she deserves a standing ovation from Congress?
	Well, it just goes to show how lame it is.
	They all sit down again, and he uses the word, we will rebuild.
	Standing ovation.
	Rebuild what?
	Our leadership of the world.
	That's the message.
	We will lead.
	We will lead you.
	The rest of the world, we are in charge of you.
	As he goes on, he makes mention about how regulations were gutted, implying that it had to do with the...
	Bush administration, most of the banking crisis stems from the Clinton administration.
	When he first got in office, the first thing he did, the first thing Clinton did when he got elected, was he changed the regulation against interstate banking.
	We used to have, there was a provision, Bank of America, if it was in California, it had to stay in California.
	You didn't have these national banks.
	You didn't have these competitive banks that were in every city around the country buying each other up, because supposedly, according to Clinton, We needed this to be more competitive in the world banking market.
	The fact of the matter is we had three of the biggest banks in the world with that old system in place.
	Then, by the end of Clinton's term, he repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, which was put in place by the Roosevelt administration to prevent an economic meltdown.
	Anyway.
	And then, of course, the bankruptcy laws were changed thanks to Joe Biden.
	He was one of the main guys on that.
	But that's okay.
	Blame Bush for this.
	It's fine.
	The Republicans didn't do a very good job, let's face it.
	So it goes on and on with standing O after standing O, up and down, up and down.
	You think you're in a Catholic church at midnight mass.
	So the next thing that happens is that finally he starts to get into some partisan stuff, and so now all of a sudden he only gets a half a standing O. The Republicans stay seated, which I thought was kind of interesting.
	He brings up the save or create 3.5 million jobs with this bogus...
	By the way, that number keeps changing.
	Now it's 3.5 million.
	Well, it was 3, it was 4, and then it's...
	Yeah, now it's 3.5.
	It was 3, it was 2.5.
	But the BBC, on their news ticker, forgot to add the create part.
	So they were just saying, Obama, save 3 million jobs.
	So it's already morphing.
	It's morphing.
	Then the speech keeps going.
	It's the same pretty much as the standard speech.
	It was very good.
	I mean, the guy's a great speaker, especially compared to Bush.
	I heard the kid who writes his speech, I read in Financial Times, that he was standing in the corner with his Blackberry and he was literally mouthing the words, you know, like he was lip-syncing along with Obama.
	Because, of course, he wrote it.
	This always reminds me, when you do a TV shoot and you've got two people, one of them is an amateur, and you're walking off a prompter, and one person's talking and the other one's mouthing along with the words.
	I know.
	That was kind of what it was, in fact.
	One's reading off a teleprompter and the other one's not, and he's mouthing along.
	Yeah, well, he wrote it.
	So then they also have, he says something about nobody messes with Joe, and he gets a standing ovation.
	Yeah.
	Which I was like, why?
	And so, you know, can't you idiots sit down for a minute and just listen to the speech?
	Well, because Joe is a mafia Don, man.
	He's a big, big man on campus.
	Everyone wants to, got to show his respect to the Don.
	Kiss the ring.
	He got a standing O for saying lending fund, whatever that means.
	Meanwhile, they put a camera shot on Joe Lieberman, who was kind of rolling his eyes throughout the speech.
	It was kind of humorous.
	I was reminded right about this point of this thing where we're going to do this, all these kind of threats against the executives.
	Oh yeah, you can't get a nice little washroom, no makeover, forget your fancy jet because it doesn't compare to an $11 billion helicopter fleet.
	And so I was reminded of the Jimmy Carter banishment of the three martini lunch.
	A similar kind of, you know, what are these people doing?
	They're drinking martinis at lunch?
	My God.
	By the way, Hillary Clinton was wearing hot fuchsia.
	Somebody mentioned this before, that once Hillary stopped running for office, she could go back to the way she likes to dress, which apparently is more like a neon sign than anything else.
	And so she's wearing this hot fuchsia dress, which is enough to blind you, and I think it was actually illegal for NTSC television shows.
	It's out of the color scale, the spectrum.
	You know where she wears it?
	I mean, you know, politics is show business for ugly people.
	That's why she wants to make sure that you see her, that your eye is drawn to her.
	It's one of the oldest tricks in the book.
	It's like the red tie or the blue tie.
	Exactly.
	So when they pull back the camera, you could see in Congress there was her in the front with this fuchsia dress, but you could see at least one other person, possibly two, also wearing the same gosh-awful color, and then a third and fourth person wearing, like, red, you know, in the middle of this kind of very dour-looking group.
	All right, what else?
	Anyway.
	Well, I got the impression watching that I would like to re-cut the speech, and instead of having all these standing ovations, you cut to a clip from a Betty Boop cartoon of that audience that's clapping and going crazy with the hippo in the front and the elephant and all these, because I think it would fit right in there.
	He did mention the carbon cap.
	Yeah, the cap and trade scheme, right?
	Yeah, cap and trade, some bullshit.
	And then that got a double standing ovation when Biden got up and started clapping.
	But the cap and trade is essentially a tax.
	I did some reading on it.
	I'm going to see if I can find the link for it.
	But essentially, they expect it to fund a lot of the budget.
	So that means it's a form of a tax.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	Well, everything's a form of a tax.
	They just come up with a new way of making it, you know, sneaking it in on the stupid public.
	Somehow, though, I got a kick out of this.
	He snuck in the word, and I think this was, you know, this was a little bit of nobody noticed.
	He didn't sneak in Octomom, did he?
	No.
	He snuck in the term clean coal.
	Yeah, I did hear that.
	Yeah, he snuck that in.
	And then, of course, he caught everybody off guard with the bogus pronouncement that we somehow invented the automobile.
	Invented the automobile.
	I love that.
	It's like, what?
	What?
	That's what I said when he said it.
	But you'd be amazed, John, how many people believe that?
	Oh, I'm sure.
	I'm sure even more believe it now that he's said it.
	Well, the claim, of course, is that Henry Ford invented the production assembly line.
	Yeah.
	And really the mass-produced vehicle, but of course it was...
	Right, the Jeep Junker, which is what we're still known for to this day.
	Of course it was German guys like Benz and Daimler and Maybach who invented the automobile.
	Yeah, no, the Germans were way ahead of us on that.
	I think they still are, actually.
	I think the Japanese are ahead of everybody.
	Sorry to tell you, bad news for the Germans, but I don't think anybody makes a better car than the Japanese.
	And, you know, they got the hybrids out and all this other stuff.
	They rolled out the hybrids.
	They still make V8 engines that are unbelievable.
	I mean, that engine in the Lexus, a V8, the thing has got...
	When I was a kid, V8s used to be the big deal.
	You had to have a V8, and you'd soup them up as best you can.
	But you could never...
	To get one...
	To get one horsepower per cubic inch was like you had a race car, essentially.
	I mean, to get to that was just amazing.
	To get to that level, yeah.
	Yeah, well, these Japanese have gone way beyond that, and the engines run smooth as glass.
	It's just like, how does that work?
	I mean, you have a four-liter engine with 250 horsepower or 300 horsepower in the newer versions.
	Well, it's because they're using Wankel engines.
	That's why.
	I'm not using nobody's.
	I only got that one crappy Wankel engine.
	At least they tried it.
	I once had a model that I built of a Wankel engine.
	A plastic kit model.
	Yeah, it was cool.
	And it, you know, with a little battery, so it actually ran.
	You could understand the principle of the Wankel.
	But I just like saying it.
	Wankel.
	Yeah.
	Come over here, baby.
	I'm sure you do.
	Touch my Wankel.
	By the way, I got a meme out of this, which I think you're going to run into here and again.
	There's, by the way, a game called Obama Bingo now.
	How many times is he going to say this and that?
	But this is the meme.
	It's not a Democrat issue.
	It's not a Republican issue.
	It's an American issue.
	I thought that was a good one.
	Yeah, and it's the men and women who sent me here.
	Not the Americans, not the people.
	It was a good speech.
	I didn't hear anything new.
	I mean, I like to get down to the numbers.
	Most interesting, of course, is that amidst all of what has happened this week, a bill was introduced that I think gets voted on today or tomorrow, the Omnibus Bill.
	Which is kind of under the radar.
	Of course, it's only $410 billion, so it's hardly worth mentioning.
	Nothing, nothing.
	Are you familiar with the omnibus bill?
	No, tell me.
	The omnibus bill, which is just being rammed right through, no problema.
	Is, what Pelosi calls it, all the stuff we had left over from the previous administration.
	So it's like 8,500 basically earmarks all jammed into one bill, which they call the Omnibus bill.
	This is where they put the pork.
	This is all the pork is here.
	And it's just outrageous when you read the stuff that's in here.
	Hold on, I just have to bring it up.
	I mean, what's nice about all the transparency, of course, that we have these days is you can actually get all these documents and download them.
	Yeah, and the five people who do that.
	David Obey, House Appropriations Chair, wants to rebuild Carnegie Library building in Medford, reconstruct historic lighthouses...
	Let's see, a perimeter fence around Roundtree Airport in Alabama.
	But, you know, $410 billion worth.
	And no one's talking about it.
	It even has a cool name, Omnibus.
	The news is not covering it.
	And it gets a vote, I believe, today or tomorrow.
	So now we've just completely lost track.
	Other than the total number, which actually was just announced, the total of this administration's budget, $1.75 trillion is the total budget.
	And I'm sure the $410 billion is a part of it, but it's just mind-boggling.
	It's just stuff that we don't need.
	I mean, yeah, come on.
	Do the historic lighthouses in five years.
	They'll still be historic.
	Yeah, and there'll still be lighthouses.
	And I don't think we need another fence.
	But anyway, I'm sure there's some really good stuff in there.
	I should plow through that myself.
	The links will be in the show notes.
	I've got the links for it.
	As a part of this whole week, it was just amazing to watch.
	Not to be outdone by the G20, which of course over here, there's a lot of stuff going on in regards to the financial crisis.
	Europe is totally preparing to launch something big.
	They're all in cahoots, and they're being real hush-hush about it, and coming out with...
	Dumb statements, but not to be outdone, the Obama administration had their own financial summit, which just like appeared out of nowhere.
	And I've been twittering, I've been searching, nowhere could I find it.
	But again, in the Financial Times, there was a fantastic little piece there that said that Lawrence Summers, who of course is the head of the President's Economic Advisory Board, that he fell asleep on the podium...
	Kind of like the Japanese finance minister.
	Wouldn't it be great to have those two guys in a video next to each other?
	No one has it, apparently, or it's been embargoed.
	This guy apparently falls asleep a lot.
	He's probably got narcolepsy.
	Yeah, they call him Lawrence of Absurdia.
	Well, let me just finish my little rundown here.
	Sure, sure.
	So anyway, this is the point where there's, I think, about two-thirds of the way through.
	All of a sudden, there it is.
	Here we come.
	We're going to do some, like, make people feel good.
	There's Sully.
	Oh, right.
	Yeah, yeah, yeah.
	Oh, my goodness.
	Yep.
	But he was...
	Pelosi invited him.
	Well, you know what?
	There is a reason, John.
	I'm so glad you brought this up.
	So Sullenberg and the co-pilot...
	His name evades me for a moment.
	I'll get to that.
	We're at the House on a special FAA meeting, and it's amazing the things that came out of that meeting, which was on C-SPAN. Essentially,
	Sullenberg's message was, You know, if we don't take care of the pilots' union and all the other unions, if we don't put our money where our mouth is and keep these people happily, gainfully, and properly employed and properly compensated, we just can't promise your safety.
	That was essentially the message.
	He's literally saying, well, there's going to be new pilots who are less experienced and have been rushed through the system.
	Basically, I guess he's on the...
	This was a...
	A ploy for the unions.
	Basically, he was saying, you've got to pay up or forget about it, or you'll just have no safety.
	Of course, and they can point to that flight, that one that was mysteriously crashed with that 9-11 woman aboard.
	What was funny, though...
	The continental flight, yeah.
	Yeah, what was funny, though, is...
	The co-pilot, who was also there, I'm looking for the exact quote.
	Also the air traffic controller was there.
	I mean, the whole trifecta.
	And so they're talking about this bird strike.
	Now, I promise I wouldn't talk about it anymore, but it's highly unusual, let's put it that way, for both engines to be snuffed out by birds.
	You can Google or look on YouTube.
	You can see how they test these engines.
	They actually shoot frozen turkeys into the engines, and the engines are fine.
	They don't stop.
	You know, frozen turkeys, okay?
	So these engines can handle some bird strikage.
	But normally, particularly if you went through a flock of geese, which were so large that they snuffed out both engines, there would have been other hull damage, and you don't see any damage at all.
	And then the co-pilot says, this was the biggest bird I've ever seen.
	He says it in his statement.
	Like, what is this, big bird from Sesame Street flying through the air?
	You know, if you're flying and, you know, when you're driving along, you might have had a bird hit your windshield.
	It's really hard to assess the size of the bird when it hits your windshield going 50 or 60 miles an hour.
	So imagine going 150 and it's not against your windshield.
	It's apparently two of these big birds in your engines.
	I mean, the whole thing just smells.
	And it doesn't smell of rotting bird flesh, which is what they also claim they could smell.
	Well, it's possible that they hit a flock of pterodactyls.
	I'm thinking this is a war.
	There's a war going on between Airbus and Boeing.
	And they're just bringing each other's planes down at random just to prove that the other ones...
	You heard about this Turkish air flight that crashed at Sripal Airport yesterday?
	Yeah, I heard about that.
	Nine people dead, at least.
	Yeah, horrible scene, but of course, there's two interesting things about this mishap, this accident.
	One that I found out about it on Twitter before anything else hit.
	And it was, you know, all the pictures that the cable outlets were showing were all TwitPix.
	And so it kind of shows that we've built our own news network around the established media, which is interesting because, you know, literally just Twitter went crazy.
	You know, there's enough interconnections with people you follow and retweeting going on that it works.
	And it was definitely well known to lots of people before it hit the mainstream media.
	And so 10 minutes after this crash takes place, I'm already over at LiveATC.net because they record all three frequencies of Schiphol air traffic control.
	So they've got ground, delivery, they've got approach, and then they have the tower.
	And so I start downloading, and they do it by half hour.
	So you can just say, oh, give me this half hour archive.
	So it's EHAM 1, 2, and 3, and I get 1 and 2.
	And so that's Approach and Ground.
	This is what you've been hearing on television, where the guy says, oh, we have a major emergency here, airplane down, etc.
	And you also hear the handoff from Approach to the Tower...
	But the tower recordings, offline, ten minutes after the incident.
	Not available.
	I've been following all the news conferences.
	They say, no, no, no, that's not going to be released until we're ready.
	And just looking at this accident, John, I can rule out a lot of stuff and I can tell you what I think it is.
	And actually, I blogged about it.
	But once again, why do these authorities always...
	Withhold certain bits of information.
	It's public.
	It's public airwaves.
	Just let us hear it.
	Why won't you let us hear what the tower said, what was said between the 10 miles out and the 2,000 feet from the threshold?
	Why won't they let us hear it?
	It really irritates me.
	We noticed.
	So what is your take on it?
	Fuel starvation.
	Fuel starvation?
	Yeah.
	So that means that they were out of fuel on their final approach.
	Now this is...
	I'm only saying this because I've heard this from sources who really are in the position to know, who work at Schiphol.
	And it's consistent with a lot of things like no fire, upon impact, a whole bunch of things.
	And also, these guys were really booking.
	They were going very, very fast.
	You hear the approach controller say, well, you're going pretty fast for that approach, but within limits, go ahead and turn 220 to 18 right, and that's the last we have a recording of.
	But, you know, it's a big deal because Turkish Airlines is a state-run company.
	You can't just go around making accusations, obviously.
	Right.
	But it's just, oh, why would they pull that offline?
	And what are they going to say the reason is?
	Will they give us any reasonable explanation already?
	They're saying, well, it could take a year to figure it out.
	Let us just hear that one piece of audio.
	Maybe there's something in there.
	Yeah, like we're out of fuel.
	Yeah, yeah.
	So what kind of plane was it?
	737 Boeing.
	737-800.
	Relatively new aircraft.
	So we have our Boeing down, Airbus down.
	So Airbus will be next again.
	Airbus will be next.
	I will say that very much like the Airbus, which had problems the previous day or two days before, this aircraft also had...
	Actually, they aborted a takeoff a day before with this aircraft because something unspecified as of yet what was wrong.
	So anyway...
	Was anybody interesting aboard that...
	Well, there were a couple of Boeing engineers.
	But...
	I don't think that...
	Well, of course, every single person is interesting.
	Yeah, I know.
	Every human life is interesting.
	And it's a horrible...
	Yeah, it's a horrible thing.
	Is there a banker on there?
	Yes, there was a banker on board.
	I saw the, there were a couple of reports.
	B.O.B., banker on board.
	I'll take the next flight, thank you.
	Excuse me, sir, are you a banker?
	Miss, miss, could I leave the aircraft?
	Oh, my goodness.
	Horrible accident, but just really irritating.
	And you still can't get to any of the tower archives for the entire day.
	Huh.
	So, you know, it's like, and I don't know who runs, I don't think it's the FAA or anybody who runs LiveATC.net.
	I'm not quite sure who runs it, you know, but someone's taken something off for a reason.
	Yeah, well, it just makes people more suspicious.
	I don't know why they bother doing that.
	Precisely.
	And when they do this press conference, of course, I speak Dutch, so I can, you know, follow a lot of the, you know, I can read the body language and the tone of voice, and they're irritated that journalists are saying, hey, when are you going to release the tower audio?
	Well, it's a part of an ongoing investigation.
	All right.
	All right, then.
	Alright, so back to, let me finish up my rundown of the speech.
	Yeah, I'm just injecting some color into it so it doesn't get too boring.
	No, I think it's a great thing, because if I just did this straight up, it would suck.
	I've come up with the, it would.
	Because at this point, now we're getting to the end of the speech where he pulls the Ronald Reagan and starts pointing people out in the audience.
	Hey, Sully!
	Did this and that.
	He didn't do the Sully one, but he did the black girl and some Marine and somebody else.
	Oh, this was the girl whose school was falling apart?
	Yeah, and she said, we're not quitters, and she was sitting there.
	And I've decided that since he's...
	Supposedly, this is supposed to be his Reagan-like speech, and then they're going to...
	I get the sense that he's kind of...
	I think he's going to become the Steven Spielberg of presidents where he keeps stealing other people's ideas to do what he presents this stuff.
	Then at the end, which is over now, at the end, it takes him forever to get out of the hall because all these people want his autograph, including all these members of Congress.
	And I'm thinking if you're a member of Congress, don't you see the president once maybe in two years?
	I mean, at least for two seconds.
	Can't you get the autograph then?
	I mean, it was like he looked like a rock star leaving the place with all these autographs.
	And, of course, they left that on for a while on a couple of these networks.
	And then we got the Republican, the lame and pathetic Republican response to all this by who I have to now consider an idiot, Bobby Jindal, the governor of Louisiana, who comes out and basically sucks.
	Reads from a teleprompter.
	Doesn't sound like he even listened to Obama's speech because he's saying stuff in there.
	We're not going to do that.
	Obama never said.
	Stuff he never even said.
	It was like a comedy act.
	It was a complete humiliation that they would have him be the representative of the Republican Party.
	He's supposed to be the future of the party.
	I don't think so.
	This guy, you know, can't read from a prompter.
	He was nervous.
	He reminded me his cadence was exactly like the beaver on Leave it to Beaver.
	I mean, it was the same kind of weird, you know, unnatural cadence because he apparently can't read very well.
	And he had to read from this piece of crap speech that somebody wrote for him.
	He even said Baton Rouge.
	No, really?
	Yeah.
	I wrote this down in big letters.
	Baton Rouge.
	Oh, that's funny.
	He also talked about government failures at Katrina.
	Katrina.
	He should have said Katrina.
	That would have been even better.
	He could have.
	Well, actually, Obama made a mistake off the prompter, which indicated a typical prompter read.
	Let's see if I have it.
	He...
	There's certain things that you will do if you're reading off a prompter, you read words wrong, that you would never actually say wrong.
	Yeah, the cadence will be wrong.
	It's just, anyway, it's somewhere.
	You don't know what it is.
	So he goes on about this.
	So meanwhile, I switch around, and I go to MSNBC, where they have the great apologists for all things Democrat, saying, Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, and Chris Matthews, after the Jindal speech, they couldn't even attack him.
	Basically, their jaws were on the floor.
	They just dropped open, right?
	Nothing left to say.
	Just rerun it.
	Just rerun it.
	That's better than any commentary.
	Seriously.
	Oh, here's the one for Obama said, send instead of spend.
	Oh, really?
	Did he correct himself?
	Yeah.
	No, he did.
	It was smooth.
	I just noticed it.
	Meanwhile, so then I switched to CNN, who apparently are now using Facebook as their polling mechanism.
	Oh, it's scientific.
	And so they polled 700,000, according to Erica Hill, 700,000 Facebook users about whether this makes them more hopeful or whatever.
	But what I thought was cool was they brought one of the analysts on who was really good, and he...
	He found the mistakes that Obama made.
	He said, what is wrong with these guys?
	Don't they have the fact checkers?
	And he brought up the car, invention of the car, which I said, ah, CNN rocks because they brought it up.
	Nobody else did.
	And then he also said that Obama made the comment that we are now pumping more foreign oil than ever, which is not true.
	No, it's not true.
	In fact, in the 70s, we had a spike that was much more than we're pumping today.
	Well, but the consistent theme seems to be the reminder, and it really seems like a reinforced reminder the way it's delivered every single time.
	You know, our reliance on foreign oil, this has just got to stop.
	We need cars that drive on batteries.
	You know, this reliance on foreign oil, reliance on foreign oil.
	Do you get any of that?
	Does it feel like that to you?
	Oh, absolutely.
	In fact, the joke of it is, of course, most of our foreign oil comes from Alberta.
	Yeah, Canada.
	So, anyway.
	Well, you know what?
	That's right.
	We need to stop doing business with Canada.
	Oh, wait a minute.
	I'm sorry.
	So, anyway, that's the end of that.
	That's my rundown.
	I just thought the thing was weird.
	But it was Jindal.
	Whatever Obama did wrong, this idiot Jindal comes out and botches the response to such an extreme, non-conversational, just to be, you know, just everything was, it was just, it was rude, ridiculous, it was stupid, he looked like a fool, the Republicans looked like idiots for choosing him, and if they think he's the future of their party, they're in for a surprise.
	Or maybe not.
	And, uh...
	Well, they're setting up the fall guy for the 2012 so that that guy can lose and Obama can continue.
	I mean, it's logical, isn't it?
	Well, from the perspective that it's all fixed.
	Yeah, from my perspective, from my walk of life.
	So, on February 25th, they had, on the junk news show, Extra, they had a Michelle Obama interview.
	She's going to obviously start doing stuff with the junk news media.
	You know, Extra, the Insider.
	Oh, really?
	She's doing all that?
	Okay, yeah.
	Well, I mean, it's what it looks like.
	Yeah.
	So, they did a thing with her...
	Interviewed her or some softball thing.
	It wasn't very good.
	But she did reveal that she's starstruck over Will Smith and his girlfriend Jada.
	They want to meet them.
	So I guess they'll be in the White House in no time.
	Dude, if I was in the White House, I would be partying it up, man.
	I'd have Aaron Burnett over every day.
	Talking about the Council on Foreign Relations?
	Yeah, of course.
	What do you mean?
	I'd be a card-carrying member.
	Are you kidding me?
	We'd have to be.
	We wouldn't get in.
	And then they won, apparently, a Portuguese water dog for their...
	Yeah, I heard about that.
	That'll be important news.
	That'll keep the slaves happy as we just stare mindlessly at programs like Access Hollywood.
	Access Hollywood.
	People don't realize that those stories are mostly bought and paid for by publicists.
	Well, some of them are even pre-edited and delivered on tape.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, you don't have to do anything.
	Just drop it right in.
	So I don't have a jingle yet for the, I think, should we call it like the Old Boys Club or the Golden Boys Club?
	Someone else suggested Goldmember.
	It's basically new people who are being brought into the administration who have interesting backgrounds.
	Yeah.
	And we have a new Assistant Attorney General who will be in charge of antitrust at the United States Department of Justice.
	And she qualifies as a good old boy, Christine Varney.
	Are you familiar with Christine Varney?
	I've heard her name.
	Probably in the context of Google is where you heard her name.
	Is she from Google?
	No.
	There was a little wave meme out there earlier in the week that she hates Google.
	Oh, this is the Google-hating woman.
	Yes, that would be the one.
	Yes, that is Christine Varney, and if you look at her, a good launching point, although rarely ever true, completely, at Wikipedia, I love the first sentence.
	Christine A. Varney is an American lawyer lobbyist.
	An internet policy expert.
	Now wait, hold on a second.
	How could that be the case?
	I don't know.
	You know, Obama is not going to put lobbyists in his administration.
	So she has lobbied on behalf of Netscape versus Microsoft.
	She's chairman of the board of directors at Truste, but I guess she might have to resign that.
	But in the past, her clients have included eBay, DoubleClick, AOL, Netscape, essentially all enemies of Google.
	And she's bringing that lobbyist past with her, and she's in charge of antitrust.
	I mean, that seems to be kind of a conflict, doesn't it?
	I don't know.
	You're going to have to ask Eric Schmidt, who happens to be kind of in the periphery of the administration.
	What does he think of this?
	We should call him.
	You got his number, Shirley.
	My name's not Shirley, and I don't necessarily.
	So while I was doing some of that research, you know, Rahm Emanuel has an interesting family, and I'm sure people have heard of this, but it's just kind of fun to bring it up from time to time.
	So Rahm Emanuel, of course, he was the, what do you call it, the inspiration for that guy on the West Wing.
	Oh, really?
	Yeah, this is pretty well known.
	I'm looking it up now.
	You know, I never liked watching West Wing.
	I kind of liked it.
	Also, I liked Commander-in-Chief when What's-Her-Face was president.
	That was kind of hot.
	It's another movie, another series I didn't care much for.
	These are all just propagandistic crap.
	So he was the...
	The inspiration for Josh on the West Wing.
	Now his brother, Ari Emanuel, do you know who he is?
	No.
	Ari Emanuel is the founder of the hottest talent agency in Hollywood, who is the model for Ari Gold on HBO's Entourage.
	Oh, interesting.
	Yeah.
	And then you have Zeke, and this guy's also...
	I'm sorry?
	So what you're saying to me, as you continue on with this breakdown, with this deconstruction of the family, is that this is a family of people who don't sit around on their ass watching TV all day.
	No, they make television, man.
	It's just, it's really interesting.
	What's the last one do?
	What does the last one do?
	Okay, Zeke...
	Now, they always say that he's bringing the family down because no TV character has been modeled on him yet.
	He's the bum.
	Yeah, really.
	He's the chair of Department of Bioethics at the National Institute of Health Clinical Center.
	Oh, Jesus.
	Lame.
	Yeah.
	But just, it's interesting how, you know, because, you know, Rahm Emanuel, I never heard of the guy ever, you know, who knew that Josh was based on him?
	It's just, yeah, it's interesting.
	Yeah, well, the whole thing is getting more interesting by the minute.
	And our new Congress, go ahead.
	I'm just saying, it hasn't, what have we accomplished, you know, but he's only been, you know, the thing that people that gets me, by the way, is that, you know, he's only been in office 30 days, and you have two things going on simultaneously.
	One is that the Democrats say the Republicans, hey, give the guy a break, he's only been in office 30 days.
	And then you have the Democrats themselves giving this guy standing ovations, like he's done so much good for the country already.
	Which is it?
	Save or create?
	You pick.
	Anyway, go on.
	Now we have a new commerce secretary, which I just love.
	So this is the third guy, right?
	This is...
	it's a woman isn't it no no no no no no no no no no who's the woman that just showed up on the radar No, that's the antitrust woman.
	No, it's somebody else, too.
	Okay, it was...
	Gary Locke.
	Gary Locke.
	You should know him.
	He's from Washington.
	Yeah, Gary Locke.
	Yeah, governor from Washington.
	Former governor.
	Yeah, former governor.
	So, you know, I love this choice.
	So you need a guy for commerce, Secretary of Commerce.
	Now, of course, you have to think, what does the Secretary of Commerce do His job is to foster, promote, and develop the foreign and domestic commerce.
	So it only makes sense.
	I can just see him sitting around like, crap, man.
	All the guys we wanted, I want to do it.
	Tax evaders.
	You know what?
	Let's get a Chinese-American guy.
	Yeah.
	Because we need to do commerce with China.
	Let's get that guy in.
	It seems like the perfect choice.
	Yeah.
	Actually, it does seem kind of like the perfect choice.
	Doesn't mean he knows what he's doing.
	No.
	I don't remember how he did as governor.
	It wasn't too bad, I don't think.
	No, he seems to have a pretty same record.
	He's got a creepy governor in there now that's just horrible.
	Some woman.
	All right, from Gitmo Nation East, then a couple of line items we should go through in the Telegraph.
	There's now talk of remote-controlled planes that are typically used in warfare.
	If you've ever seen these, they actually launch them by hand.
	From the field.
	Those are those little ones.
	Yeah, little ones, and they're completely remote-controlled, and they have heat-seeking equipment.
	Yeah, they're not the big ones.
	No, it's not a big drone.
	No, it's not a UAV. It is a UAV, but it doesn't have a huge payload.
	Yeah, actually I saw a bunch of these on display at some trade show, these little ones you're talking about.
	They're actually quite interesting.
	Yeah, it's like a remote-controlled airplane, only supercharged.
	Right, and they go hundreds of miles.
	They're pretty amazing.
	So Wacky Jackie, our home office secretary here in the UK, has suggested that, hey, you know what?
	This is cheaper than helicopters.
	Police could use these to gather evidence and track criminals without putting officers at risk.
	So we're going to have these planes buzzing overhead.
	Of course, in the United States that wouldn't work because we're armed to the teeth.
	Yeah, we shoot them out of the sky, exactly.
	We shoot them out of the sky without worrying about it.
	You won't be armed for the teeth long, though, my friend.
	It's coming down now.
	I'm sure you've heard about all these bills to take away guns.
	We'll see.
	I love it when you say that.
	Could you just say it more like pry this for my cold dead hands way?
	Like, we'll see.
	Now, the other thing is that it seems to me that if you're going to use these remote control planes, that these things would be ripe for hobbyists or anyone who, you know, if you could, like, throw a net over one of them.
	Capture one.
	Capture them.
	And then strip the radio and camera out and turn it into a device for your own use.
	I like the idea of target practice, though.
	It's like, it comes along, pull!
	I must say, you know, helicopter traffic is pretty annoying over the city.
	There is quite a bit of it.
	Why?
	What kind of crime?
	They have cameras everywhere.
	What do you need helicopters for?
	They get the infrared and they're tracking people down.
	They have a whole show on it called Helicopts or Sky Cops or something like that.
	All meant to condition you into thinking it's just fine and dandy.
	I guess.
	Um...
	It's almost impossible to keep track of all the deals.
	Oh, we do have our own website here that Gordon Brown launched.
	So in the States, of course, we're a little bit more advanced in the U.K. We're a little bit further.
	The agenda is probably five years ahead of the U.S. in many areas.
	So whereas in the U.S. we have recovery.gov, here we have getrealhelp.gov.uk.
	And it's amazing.
	You should go to it.
	Getrealhelp.co.uk.
	You're going to have a link to that.
	Yeah, I think it's Get...
	No, RealHelpNow, I think it is.
	Yeah, I'm sorry.
	RealHelpNow.gov.uk.
	And so on the home...
	Of course, I'll have links in the show notes.
	On the home page...
	This is all about help.
	So real help for business, real help for people.
	Okay.
	Keeping your home.
	And so you go to that link on keeping your home.
	So one click away from the home page.
	And it then gives you a link to housing advice from shelter.
	Okay.
	So that's like, here's how you can try and refinance your mortgage, and here's a link to the shelter service.
	It's like there's nothing in between.
	Homelessness.
	Find out where to go to help and check whether the council has to house you.
	Finding a place to live.
	Understanding the pros and cons of both temporary and permanent options.
	So you're telling me some, wait a minute, for starters, a guy on the street is now homeless.
	Somehow he's going to find his way to this website?
	Realhelpnow.
	Yeah, to the website, of course.
	Sure, because he took his Wi-Fi laptop with him when he got kicked out of his house?
	When he got kicked out of his house.
	Pushing his shopping cart around?
	It's really...
	It's so sad.
	And so many...
	The media buys into this.
	But you know what?
	It's okay because we created a website for it.
	And they...
	For some reason, it's like, oh, okay.
	Well, there's a website.
	Well, then something's done.
	And they'll go and look at the website.
	And they go, oh, I'm looking at the website.
	Oh, yeah.
	It's got some stuff here on the website.
	You know, it's like...
	It's just...
	It's...
	It is stupid.
	Yeah, no, don't worry.
	We fixed the problem.
	We have a website.
	I love that.
	Oh yeah, no, that problem's been resolved.
	We have a website.
	Yeah, I got a website.
	Yeah, no problem.
	What else you got?
	What else is on your list?
	Well, I'll give you another one.
	Just for the UK stuff.
	Because we are...
	Again, it's amazing.
	I can almost predict what's going to happen in the United States just having observed four and a half years of the UK. Yeah, it's a test center.
	It really is.
	Yeah, it really is.
	This is from...
	I don't know if this is from Reuters, Yahoo, Press Association.
	They're talking here in the UK of the summer of rage.
	According to a poll, more than a third of voters believe the army will have to be brought in to deal with a summer of rage on British streets as the recession bites.
	This coming summer?
	Yeah.
	Summer of racial...
	In other words, what you can interpret here, you can say that because they're already preconditioning people with this bullshit...
	That's exactly what it is, yep.
	Getting you ready.
	They are actually going to...
	Because they want to test.
	They are actually going to create...
	A situation that makes the Summer of Rage actually happen.
	So they can see how they can respond to it and it will be like a real world test of the domestic security apparatus.
	So that you then in the United States can know what to look forward to.
	Now, if they actually have some sort of riots or whatever they're going to do for the Summer of Rage, you know, they...
	I've got to make jingles.
	I've got to make jingles.
	Hey, Charm, we've got to make jingles.
	But really, like, Love FM, like, coming to you from Kidmo Nation East, it's the Summer of Rage.
	Get your loved one on the street for the Summer of Rage.
	Summer of Rage.
	Hey everybody, it's no agenda.
	It's ACD and AC in the morning.
	Hey, we got some tickets here for the Summer of Rage, everybody!
	Come on, free tickets for the Summer of Rage, up close and personal.
	They won't do much for the tourist business if they pull this stunt off, unless it's...
	I mean, they're going to have to deal with the backlash.
	They're probably not considering that.
	They haven't done much for the tourists anyway.
	They don't want people taking pictures anymore.
	No, no, please.
	Gordon Brown's spokesman said, the Prime Minister's view on this...
	So this is all...
	You're so right.
	It's so preconditioning.
	Is that of course he understands people's concerns and he also understands that people are angry, for example, about the behavior of some of the banks.
	That's why he is absolutely determined that the government does everything possible to deal with those concerns and help people and businesses get through what is a global recession.
	And remember, we've got a website.
	Just be at the end of every press release.
	And we've solved this problem already with a website called realhelpnow.gov.uk.
	It's just despicable.
	Really, I throw up in my mouth every morning just reading the news.
	So, yeah, stuff over there is really funny.
	You've been around, John.
	Have you ever witnessed anything like this in political history or just in your lifetime?
	You've been through one, two, three, eight-year cycles.
	Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
	So you've been through a couple of downturns.
	I think the 70s had a lot of elements of this.
	I think it's always a little different.
	I haven't seen so much of this fascism, because the last time there was a fascist...
	A thread was in the late 20s and early 30s, which then, of course, evolved into Hitler.
	But, you know, fascism became as a kind of a...
	It was a good thing to really study it.
	It was like a good thing, not to me, but to the intellectuals, the intellectual class.
	It was considered like the way to go.
	And...
	The fascisti out of Italy, you know, they got the trains going on time, people were happier and all this kind of thing.
	By the way, talking about this kind of thing, there is a re-invigoration of Stalinism in Russia with a number of events that are bringing Stalin back into the fold as a famous Russian, now considered by some of the Pro-Stalinist types to be one of the greatest Russians who ever lived.
	And there's all these speeches and they're having all these events and these Stalin conferences.
	They're all over the place with all these old generals who come out.
	Ah, there was never anybody as good as Stalin.
	Yeah, it was tough.
	It had to be tough.
	Yeah, and then all these youth, these young women and all these micro-garks or whatever they call them, rich people, saying, you know, the way I saw it, Stalin couldn't have been that bad of a guy.
	We needed someone tough or he wouldn't have gotten through World War II anyway.
	And yeah, he was brutal, but it was brutality that was necessary.
	And there was all this rationale.
	It's like a whole...
	A load of crap about Stalin that's almost obviously a prelude to letting Putin become the next Stalin.
	You know what the good news is, though?
	They've got a website called StalinisBack.ru and...
	I'll give you some more.
	This is really the big news over here in the UK. Although it's already been buried because...
	And it's really sad, but David Cameron, conservative leader, the leader of the shadow government, so the opposition, his six-year-old son died.
	He had cerebral palsy and it's pretty messed up.
	And so, you know, government actually shut down yesterday in observation of this happening.
	But it came one day on the heels of...
	Jack Straw, the Justice Secretary, now in, I think, a year ago?
	It was like a year ago, the House of Lords, I'm sorry, I'm not too familiar with the whole system, or I don't know if it was the Commons of the Lords, but they decided there had to be a Freedom of Information policy and that they were going to open up transparency.
	They were putting up a website so that you can, you know, the Freedom of Information Act was a big deal.
	And so, of course, what the Freedom of Information sleuths wanted is the cabinet minutes relating to the decision to invade Iraq.
	And Jack Straw comes out and says, well, we're not going to release that.
	He says, we're not going to tell you that because the public interest in disclosure of the minutes could not supplant the public interest in maintaining the integrity of our system of government.
	It is a necessary decision to protect the public interest in effective cabinet government.
	And it's just blown everybody away.
	So, whatever it is, however this decision came down, either it was so lame that they would all be beheaded because people would find out under what stupid reasoning they joined the coalition to go into Iraq, or, the way he says it, perhaps we're under such enormous, incredible threat that if we knew how severe it was, we'd all be freaking out.
	One or the other.
	I mean, how can it be in between?
	Right.
	That has to be the two.
	I just want to read that again for myself.
	Okay, I've read it.
	Okay, thanks.
	No, but it's like, it just blows me away that he's saying, the public interest in disclosure of minutes could not supplant the public interest in maintaining the integrity of our system of government.
	It's just weird, man.
	The integrity of the system of government, this makes me think that it was something lame.
	Like illegal or some illegal move?
	Or something negative, something that wasn't protecting the public from freaking out.
	Yeah, freaking out because it was a lame-ass move, right?
	Yeah, or there's some corruption involved of some sort.
	Who knows?
	But that's an actual veto from the Freedom of Information Act that he pulled.
	First time he's pulled it, and of course it's on the one thing that everybody really would like to know.
	I mean, the scientist who couldn't find the weapons of mass destruction, he suicided himself.
	Remember that?
	Yeah, oh yeah.
	Yeah, he shot himself ten times in the suicide.
	Something like that.
	Shot himself twice in the head.
	And...
	Let me see, I want to do some more...
	Oh, Jackie Chan is pissed off.
	About what?
	Well, apparently the...
	They auctioned off the contents of Yves Saint Laurent's French digs.
	Yves Saint Laurent, a famous couturier, fashion designer, who passed away recently.
	So they auctioned off all his stuff and included in his stuff were a bronze rat and a bronze rabbit, which the Chinese government says was stolen.
	And should be returned.
	But they were sold anyway.
	And the French said, screw it.
	We're protecting it.
	This can be sold.
	It's turning into a minor international flap.
	And Jackie Chan has come out.
	It's like when Jackie Chan comes out, a website has to be next.
	Oh, yeah.
	I don't understand.
	The Western world relies heavily on China.
	I'd be delivering that with naked chicks.
	Here.
	Here's your sculptures, man.
	No problem.
	Sorry about that.
	Hey, no hard feelings.
	Well, most of this stolen art is pretty well documented.
	And the French are pretty...
	You know, into, like, returning stolen art.
	I don't understand why they wouldn't return this unless the documentation was either BS, somebody just trying to make off with the things cheap, or there's some backstory here we don't know about.
	Maybe we should look into it.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I kind of glossed over the article.
	I just thought it was interesting that Jackie Chan was piping up there, but...
	Talking about piping up, by the way, we do need some more people to donate to our library.
	So I can write.
	And I'll have the slash library thing done this week.
	The point is that if you listen to this thing, we do an hour and a half twice a week, so it's three hours.
	So doing $2 a month is like 25 cents for a show.
	There's no commercials.
	There's no ads in here.
	It's all...
	It's dense.
	It's very dense.
	So I don't think it would hurt.
	Go to Dvorak.org slash NA. And donate to the Curry-Dvorak Library Project.
	Right, which is publicly funded.
	We're testing the idea.
	We don't want to do ads.
	They interrupt the flow of our thoughts.
	And I think it interrupts.
	And I don't want to do these promotions anymore.
	I'd like to stop doing them, but we're not going to for a while because we need to get a lot more people.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, involved.
	And we have a lot of listeners, and it's just a matter of, again, if somebody's listening to this and they're not necessarily at the computer, they might be listening on iTunes, on an iPod, and then they forget.
	Because I've always found it very difficult to get anyone to connect a TV show to a website or a podcast to a website if they're not actually on the computer at the time.
	You just forget to go to Dvorak.org slash NA. Right.
	And if you can't afford it, if we don't feel like it yet, we'll be happy with some link love.
	Give us a link.
	That also helps.
	Yeah, something that you've found that is weird.
	Or just link to us.
	Just link to the show.
	That also helps.
	Oh, right.
	That's good.
	Yeah, link juice.
	Give us some Google link juice, baby.
	Hey, we should maybe just touch on that briefly because I know you're so anti-cloud.
	And boy, I was on your side the other morning when Gmail became G-Fail.
	And it went down for about three hours.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, and these are the experts.
	I mean, if Google can't maintain a cloud resource, I mean, how are these other sketchy companies, let's say like Microsoft, who fails all the time, going to do it?
	I will say that I do have a pretty good backup system because I don't actually just have a Gmail address.
	I have Google Apps, and that went down as well.
	But of course, in my...
	Oh, it did?
	Yeah, in fact, Gmail proper was coming up before the apps.
	They gave me a 15 hour SLA credit or something like that.
	So essentially they're getting money back.
	They're trying to make up.
	They did a good job on the SLA bit, which I was kind of concerned about.
	But of course, what you really need to do is, as long as you own your domain name and can access, like a GoDaddy account, I have two mail records in there.
	So if the first one fails, then it'll go to a secondary, and then I can pick it up from there.
	So there's a lot of ways to get around being snuffed out by the cloud.
	But boy, there was like 100 million people who were just not able to access their email.
	That's interesting problems, which...
	It got some ink here and there, but no one's really thinking about what that really means.
	I bet you there was a lot of productivity lost.
	Yeah, I'm sure.
	And this is, I think, the sixth time that the thing has crapped out.
	This was one of the bigger ones, though.
	Yeah, no, this lasted way too long.
	It's kind of baffling that they can't get this back up.
	I mean, was it some...
	Yeah, I read through whatever it was, but it was...
	Somehow they did something new, and it activated what they call the dormant bug, and essentially it overloaded their servers.
	I don't know, it doesn't matter.
	That's mumbo-jumbo, and the people who do that shit, man, they're amazing, who fix that stuff.
	You know, like our guys.
	Have you ever called one of our guys in the middle of the night?
	Yeah, no, I know.
	It's unbelievable.
	And they come out of a dead sleep.
	Hello?
	Hey, man, I'm sorry to wake up.
	No, man, it's okay.
	I'm online.
	It's all right, dude.
	Poor guys.
	So Bank of Scotland, that was the other big one.
	Had a fourth quarter, 10 billion pound loss.
	Of course, the Royal Bank of Scotland is now completely nationalized.
	But what was interesting is that RBS, and this would kind of make sense if you think of all the connections, won the tender for doing all of the Dutch government's banking.
	Wow.
	So all the internal revenue banking, everything they do, it's a small-ass country, but they do a lot.
	They do 66 million transactions, the state.
	And Royal Bank of Scotland's going to be doing it.
	It's very confusing how all of these things fit together.
	What do the Dutch think of this?
	Can't they do their own banking?
	They don't know about it.
	Why don't they go through the Swiss?
	No, everyone's pulling out of the Swiss.
	No, no one wants a Swiss bank account anymore.
	UBS is in deep, deep Kim Shea.
	Well, they screwed up.
	I always thought the Swiss were the most conservative of bankers, but I guess not.
	But the Netherlands really is another three years ahead of the UK, except for the camera part, although that's gathering speed very quickly.
	And those people are so...
	I mean, I love them dearly.
	You know, I've lived there a long time, but they're so hypnotized.
	They've got Wouter Bos, he's the finance minister, and he just keeps saying, he's like...
	Hey man, it's fine.
	No, no, ING, it's not a problem.
	Meanwhile, ING had to sell warrants to the state.
	No one would buy any of their bonds or anything.
	They're completely falling apart.
	You've got guys on the financial channel literally saying...
	That the Dutch finance minister, he would call a terminal cancer patient completely healthy.
	I mean, that's a pretty hefty little quote there.
	But people, they disbelieve it.
	And anyone talking, hey man, how's it going?
	Well, yeah, we got the crisis, but we're okay.
	We're going to be okay.
	It's like, damn, man, you guys really don't know.
	You guys so screwed.
	The whole country bought kitchens and patio furniture on second mortgages.
	Oh, I feel so bad for them.
	So somebody brought up the point, which I blogged, by the way, to ask you about what you think about the TSA trying to get involved in private aviation.
	Oh, yeah, where they want to have the same rules, where you can't have more than 100 milliliters of liquid on a private plane.
	On your own plane.
	On your own plane, because, oh, you could be a...
	Weren't we just talking about this the other day?
	It's so easy.
	I mean, of course, you know, I could pack up my plane with explosives and fly it right into the heart of London.
	You know, I'd be in there before they could even scramble a jet.
	Of course.
	I mean, it's simple.
	But at the end of the day, the threat is just not as big as it's made out to be.
	And this is, this could never, this will, I think you even wrote the quote, this will go away the minute any of these guys get into their private plane, they got to go through security and, you know, all this crap, they'll end it.
	Unless they get special exemptions.
	Well, that wouldn't be good, because then you'd have a fuss.
	So we ran something on the blog that makes us even more ludicrous.
	The TSA says mule skinners need background checks, too.
	Mule skinners?
	A federal anti-terror law that requires longshoremen, truckers, and others to submit to criminal background checks has ensnared another class of transportation worker, the mule driver.
	Which is what a mule skinner is called.
	They must abide by federal law and apply for transportation worker identification credentials, TSA says.
	Yes, the so-called mule skinners, in this case seasonal workers who dress in colonial garb at a historic park in eastern Pennsylvania, must apply for biometric transportation worker identification credentials.
	I guess you could drive one of these mules into the Twin Towers.
	And detonate it.
	Detonate your mule cart.
	This clearly is a...
	They're just trying to get at the Amish, man.
	That's what it's all about.
	This damn Amish, man.
	They're dangerous.
	It's crazy.
	Somehow the vegans are behind this, I'm sure of it.
	Are we just way tuned into this stuff?
	Or is everyone else just way tuned out?
	This is nuts, man.
	What kind of world do we live in?
	What's going on?
	I don't know.
	The thing that's interesting about the internet is that this actually showed up on CNN.com as just one of the many stories.
	Unfortunately, because the newspapers are dying.
	The San Francisco Chronicle, by the way, has lost $50 million.
	They're losing a million dollars a week.
	They can't seem to stop bleeding.
	Didn't Hearst say they were going to shut it down?
	They said if they don't sell it, and they actually on January 9th, I think it was the 9th or the 6th of January, they said that if they don't get the Seattle Post-Intelligencer, which is their other paper, sold in 60 days, they're just going to shut it down.
	Jeez.
	How long has that paper been around?
	200 years?
	A long time.
	And the Chronicle, which has been around since the 1800s, they...
	Bought them from the other family because their examiner wasn't doing very well, to say the least, and it was losing money.
	And then they bought from the other...
	I can't remember the name of the family that owned it, but it was privately held.
	They bought, I think, spent $600 million for the paper, which, of course...
	And now it's costing them $50 million a year more just to keep the thing alive.
	I don't understand how you can...
	Where's this money going?
	I mean, it'd be interesting.
	I wish these people would open the books to the public so we could examine just to see what's all the expense.
	I mean, where's $50 million and a newspaper going?
	Well, first of all, paper is pretty outrageous.
	I mean, you've seen the rolls of the printer.
	I mean, you look at that, and then the guy will say, oh, that's just for today's run.
	You're like, what?
	This entire forest I see before me is just for today's run?
	So I think the paper and ink is a huge expense.
	And, of course, people, but...
	The real problem is on the income side, because this was basically a business that was being subsidized by classifieds, and that's what the internet really usurped.
	The internet doesn't necessarily have better news capabilities, or it's starting now.
	Which I think this Mule Skinner story is a good example.
	I don't think that the internet serves the public as well as the newspaper because there is no way of seeing the – the stories aren't put in perspective.
	They're just a million stories.
	Stories, yeah.
	And so with our blog, we can take some of the stories that are more...
	We do mostly kind of weird little stories like this, and we can kind of focus on that.
	But if you're just going to run news feeds from Associated Press and not in a non-hierarchical manner, I mean, some of the best stories are buried.
	Some of them, all the stories are buried.
	Which is exactly why this type of program is on fire, because we're bringing up the buried stories, trying to put some context around them, just like two guys who have been around who don't know really anything.
	We don't know nothing about much.
	No, but we've seen a lot.
	And we can also spot the BS, because we're both working in an industry that's filled with it.
	Wasn't there another paper that filed for Chapter 11?
	Some other paper folded.
	I'm sure that there may be the Inquirer, possibly.
	There's got to be a website, and somebody could probably Twitter it to us.
	There's got to be a website that has a newspaper, Death Watch.
	Yeah.
	I mean, there has to be.
	You know there's an irk journalist out there.
	I know what these people are going to do for work.
	An irk journalist who has put up a death watch site for all the different newspapers around the country.
	Because they're all doomed.
	I mean, I was looking at the New York Times today as I was researching the sheep belching story, which we started the show with.
	And I'm looking at the...
	At this one page, they had a thing on Brooklyn foodies and how there's a big trend in Brooklyn right now to do, you know, just a bunch of people that are in Brooklyn doing, you know, the foodie thing.
	You know, they got special little restaurants and cool this and, you know, butcheries that are on site at the actual place and stuff like that.
	And they had this picture of all these famous, you know, I guess the superstar chefs and food people in Brooklyn.
	And there's a photo, big photo, at the top of the story.
	Great story.
	Very interesting if you're into this.
	But instead of just having a list, here's the left to right.
	You know, they had a picture of about ten people.
	You moused over the picture.
	Yeah.
	And every time the mouse hit the person's head, it would light up their name.
	Mm-hmm.
	Which is fine.
	I think it's cool.
	There's nothing wrong with that.
	But if you're a newspaper trying to cut costs, what is the point of this?
	There is no way that this isn't a hand-coded waste of time.
	There's no automated system that could do this.
	It's hand-coded Ajax.
	And so somebody had to map these little figures by hand with, you know, I mean, sure, maybe not taking a lot of time if you do it a lot, but it's still time consuming, and it's pointless.
	You could just have the, here's the picture, left to right, there's blah, blah, blah, and blah, blah, blah, and it's actually kind of more interesting because you can cut and paste that if you wanted to save these people's names.
	You can't do that with this little Ajax rollover.
	Yeah, less of the fancy stuff for us people putting show notes together, please.
	Exactly.
	But the point is that here's a paper that's whining.
	Another paper, by the way, the New York Times is whining and moaning, and they want to do this, and they want to go all online.
	And here they are throwing.
	Then they do this crap, which is needless.
	Yeah, it's really neat.
	I have to say, it is cool, but it's a stupid waste of time.
	This costs money.
	So, newspaperdeathwatch.com, would you believe it?
	Is that the name of it?
	Yep.
	Yep.
	You'll like it.
	This is a really detailed site.
	It's got the latest news, the rumors, SF Chronicle on life support.
	Very funny.
	They have Obama with We Will Recover on the cover.
	That's funny.
	That's pretty good.
	I'll take a look at that later.
	We just got a couple more minutes, John, so I'll just run through the last bit of notes.
	You don't have any more notes, do you?
	Nope, I'm done.
	Okay.
	So I was kind of amazed, as the President said, you know, I've never had a helicopter before.
	You know, maybe I've been deprived, and I didn't know it.
	Boy, oh boy, man.
	I know a bit about helicopters, but if you have a budget, and of course this will be removed or changed or whatever, or maybe hidden and still go through, I don't know.
	But for a fleet of helicopters, okay, so it was originally 28 helicopters.
	The original cost that Bush set up was $6 billion.
	The project is now at $11.2 billion.
	Okay.
	You know, I just can't make the numbers work, John, for 28 helicopters.
	I just can't make it work.
	I mean, even if it was 100 million per helicopter, you still can't get to 11 billion.
	$11 billion.
	Maybe some of that money is for the infrastructure or for the...
	Well, usually what this is...
	Maybe that includes all the salaries of all the pilots that pushed out five years.
	Who knows?
	Well, usually what this is...
	Maintenance?
	Maintenance.
	Fill her up.
	Usually it means that they're essentially designing a whole new helicopter.
	Designing a new helicopter could easily cost a billion dollars.
	But there's still 11 billion?
	Yeah, it sounds like a cover for some of the money is going to be...
	You know, for 11 billion, I want some stick time on that bad boy when it's done.
	That's what I want.
	Give me a little bit of stick time.
	This one caught my eye.
	I thought it was pretty interesting.
	Antibodies protect against bird flu and more.
	Did you hear about this?
	Researchers have discovered human antibodies that neutralize not only H5N1 bird flu, but other strains of influenza as well, and they hope to develop them into life-saving treatment.
	So what they're saying is, you know what?
	It could be one shot that fixes all flu, including bird flu.
	Yeah.
	You believe in that?
	Yeah, I read most of the briefings on this.
	They've discovered apparently over the years the flu vaccines are based on...
	There's, I guess, a sheath around the virus that keeps mutating every year, and they can target that as a...
	Something that they can make a vaccine for and then kill the viruses that have whatever the mutation is and then kind of predict it.
	Which ones are going to be successful?
	Which four?
	The way I read it, there's something else that they discovered within the virus that is...
	Doesn't mutate.
	It's fixed.
	It makes the flu what it is, and it's nothing that changes with each iteration of the flu as it comes around.
	And they now think they can target that with a vaccine of some sort.
	And they've had early successes right away, and if that's the case, then the flu can be eradicated.
	And that would include bird flu.
	Fascinating.
	Okay, well, you know me.
	I'm not taking any shots yet.
	Not for a long time.
	If they had that shot and it comes through, I mean, that shot, I'd be lined up for it.
	You're also going to be lined up for the FEMA camps, John.
	Live from the FEMA camps!
	I think, you know, I will have fair warning because, you know, I'll be calling.
	I'll be sending postcards, is that what you're saying?
	I'll be calling in Sunday morning and it's like, you know, maybe your wife will come on and say, perhaps they took him away last night.
	I'll know that I can scurry up to Washington or I can do something.
	I've got an exit that goes on the other side.
	It's like a mine under the house that takes me out and drops me off under a Berkeley sewer system.
	Well, you may want to leave sooner than you think, man, because just looking at the state of California, the drought, which, of course, no one talks about anymore, I'm sure.
	Do they Well, they should because the rainstorms we had over the last week or two have pretty much negated the drought.
	Is it gone for good now?
	I have a huge, one of these huge, it's like a big galvanized thing that you put tons of ice in and you put beer in.
	It's a big giant galvanized thing.
	It's about two feet high.
	Or maybe about a foot and a half.
	I went up to Washington.
	I came back.
	This thing was dead empty when I left, and we had this big storm last week, and we're having another one this weekend.
	It was full.
	I mean, that's about a foot and a half of rain, even though they said, whatever, how many eight inches they said, or something like that.
	Yeah, in China, they do all this cloud seeding, and they make it rain.
	Rain, how come they do that?
	We used to do that.
	Oh, yeah?
	We used to do that.
	Yeah, then the environmentalists, they got bent out of shape.
	Some silver salts aren't very good for you, apparently.
	And then depending on how the budget now plays out and how much bailout money California gets, the Los Angeles sheriff is now saying, hey, I might have to let 4,000 inmates go.
	I like that one.
	There's a threat.
	Well, now, the other thing going on, which I think applies to California more than anything else, is the attempt by Tom Ammiano, and even though it's ridiculed by, you know, I don't quite understand the Libertarian Republicans who are, oh, less government, less this, less that, more freedom.
	They're so against this.
	The guy's trying to legalize marijuana in the state of California, and it's actually being considered.
	And the reason for the consideration is because it could bring in a billion dollars in taxes right into the coffers, It changes the way we do incarceration.
	It saves billions that way.
	It changes the way we do law enforcement.
	It changes a whole bunch of things.
	If you just legalize marijuana, and the right wing is up, and oh, you can't do that because it would be terrible.
	And they did it in Amsterdam, and now whatever happened in Amsterdam, they don't even know.
	It's being pulled away.
	Well, they're not going to legalize it, John, and I'll tell you why.
	Because the drug trade, if it were completely the illegal drug trade, which of course, you know, look, you're not, sorry about that.
	Gosh, I hate it when I say that.
	Let me be clear.
	By making...
	Let me be clear.
	Very clear.
	By making marijuana legal, the price will have to come down considerably.
	And the U.S. government, and I'll just say it, is in the drug trafficking trade.
	That's what Afghanistan is all about.
	They're complicit in all of this stuff.
	They do not want you on free or cheap drugs.
	They want to...
	Get this big money.
	That's what Wall Street was running on.
	Look at Stanford.
	I mean, this is all drug money.
	I had a lunch yesterday with a number of people.
	It was a very proper English lunch and I was dressed in my pinstripes and it was at a real fancy restaurant right behind Harrods and a couple of the guys are money managers for Saudi royal family members.
	And, you know, like princes and stuff.
	And, you know, they manage billions of dollars.
	And a couple of interesting things came out of that.
	The first one was, though, complete agreement within seconds of the topic being broached about what we're really doing in Afghanistan.
	These guys said, oh, yeah, it's all for the drugs.
	That's why.
	Like, they're on to it immediately.
	And then the other thing...
	Is they have hundreds of lawsuits right now.
	Hundreds.
	Because all these banks or the insurance companies that provided insurance, basically a hedge on an investment, so you take an investment in something and you buy insurance again.
	This is a lot of what these credit default options were.
	Swaps.
	Swaps, I'm sorry.
	So if it doesn't pay off the way you expected it, then you've paid a little bit each month, relative, of course, what a little bit is, and then you get a payout, so you never really lose your principal investment.
	That's kind of the idea of hedging your bets.
	And the banks, they won't pay out the insurers.
	And what they're doing is they're just waiting.
	They're just sitting on it.
	They're just going to the court system, letting the lawyers deal with it.
	They're just dragging it all out because they know they're either going to get bailed out or something else is going to happen.
	They are not paying.
	And when you see these guys at that level, and we're talking hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars, no wonder the system's all messed up.
	The American public and the British public and the Europeans, they can't even print enough money to fix all of that problem.
	This whole thing has to go down.
	It has to change.
	Well, that's why it probably would have been a good idea to just let the insurance companies go bankrupt.
	And, you know, this guy does so much for the credit default swaps.
	Yeah.
	So, I don't know.
	Okay, well, I think we have another enlightening show, but don't forget Dvorak.org slash NA. Go and help us out here, and we'll be back again on Sunday.
	Yes, and I want to thank Rick Revolution on Twitter, who has yet again put together a beautiful piece of album art for us for this show.
	You'll love this one, John.
	It's great.
	I'll look forward to it.
	It's in the same theme.
	Yeah, no, this one's hot.
	So yes, Dvorak.org slash NA for the donations to the Curry Dvorak Library.
	We're looking to build something kind of like what Clinton has.
	Yeah.
	And Bush.
	Doesn't Bush have a library he's putting together, too?
	It's just comic books, I understand.
	Oh, where's my rim shot?
	Huh.
	All right, man.
	So...
	Sunday?
	Yeah, Sunday looks good.
	Okay.
	Hey, thanks for coming prepared.
	That was kind of fun.
	Yeah, I got my new, I got one of these, you know, marble-covered, wide-ruled composition notebooks.
	And you carry it around.
	And I keep it over by the television, so if I ever turn the TV on, I have this thing ready to go, and I write the notes, it says no agenda on the front, and that's all it's for, and I'll keep doing that, and that should keep the show, unfortunately made the show a little long today.
	Nah, it's alright.
	I like the fact that you did the notes on the joint session.
	So we will talk to you again on Sunday, coming to you from the Crackpot Command Center in southwest London, located in Gitmo Nation East.
	I'm Adam Curry.
	And I'm here at the Buzzkill Center in northern Silicon Valley.
	I am John C. Dvorak.
	It's a Buzzkill bunker, actually.
	I like that, Buzzkill bunker.
	We'll talk to you on Sunday, right here on No Agenda.

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