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Feb. 15, 2009 - No Agenda

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72: Obama Denver & the New World Order

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	Originating from opposite corners of Gitmo Nation.
	I screwed it up already.
	This is No Agenda with Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak.
	Coming to you from Gitmo Nation east in the southwest part of London in the Curry Terrace, I'm Adam Curry.
	I'm John C. Dvorak here in northern Silicon Valley where it's wet and rainy and this is the Gitmo Nation.
	Yo, yo, yo.
	So you were sleepy this morning.
	We were just talking about that before we started.
	Hard to get up.
	It's pouring.
	It's not nice here either, but it's just like British weather, you know?
	It's not rainy and it's just kind of gray.
	Yeah, well, we need the rain, and we're just going to take a while to catch up, but anybody who went up to Lake Tahoe, which is what everybody in the Bay Area tends to do on these three-day weekends, and we have a three-day weekend here, meaning it's a holiday on Monday.
	It's President's Day.
	Yeah, which is in between Washington's birthday, which used to be a holiday, and Lincoln's birthday, which used to be a holiday, which was actually yesterday, or no, Friday.
	And...
	They stopped doing those because they're trying to make more generic.
	There used to also be a Labor Day.
	I mean, the Armistice Day is gone.
	They keep changing these things.
	So these holidays are bogus.
	It's just a commercial thing, isn't it?
	Kind of like Valentine's Day?
	No, because there's no connection to commerce.
	Except for all the President's Day sales?
	Oh yeah, there's a lot of President's Day sales.
	Which lasts, well, three weeks beyond President's Day, the President's Day sale is on!
	Yeah, that means Macy's open.
	The holidays means nothing's closed.
	I mean, usually a holiday, the retail stores should be closed, technically.
	But no.
	Anyway.
	So, holiday.
	So what's going on, John?
	Besides the storm, not much.
	You know, a couple of things we forgot to talk about last week, including Darwin Day.
	We kind of missed the boat on that.
	I had been, on my blog, I tend to do some post every so often on creationism and how it's trying to make inroads into the school system.
	And I'm fascinated by the Discovery Institute, which is up in Seattle, which is behind most of this, by the way.
	Almost everything that goes on today that has to do with teaching creationism in the school or intelligent design or anything like that is financed or funded or supported or somehow there's a connection to the Discovery Institute.
	The irony to that is that one of the high-tech gurus, George Gilder, who by the way is worshipped by John Doerr, is a creationist nutball.
	And he's the one that's funding a lot of this, almost with, you know...
	Are these the people that are doing the Atlas?
	The Atlas of...
	No, no, that's an independent guy.
	That guy's out of Turkey.
	And I'm sure there's no connection because I haven't seen any indication that the Discovery Institute is selling this.
	And I believe at some point there's going to be these battling creationists.
	Each with their own personal agenda of how it came down.
	Yes.
	And the guy with that book, when we have to get a copy, is a different guy.
	Just so people know, this is the Atlas of Creation.
	I don't remember now.
	It's apparently a stunningly beautiful book with really multicolored, high-quality pictures.
	And they sent them to all kinds of different people.
	Celebrities, schools, universities.
	They're floating around.
	We need two copies.
	We need to get a couple copies.
	And maybe if anybody out there knows anything, they can help us.
	So there's that.
	So anyway, I was reading on the web of various creationist sites looking for something interesting.
	And they were moaning and groaning about Darwin Day.
	I didn't know anything about Darwin Day.
	It was actually pretty big over here.
	Wasn't Darwin British?
	Yes, and the same day the Queen relaunched her website, Prince Philip was actually performing his royal duties and he was celebrating Darwin Day.
	Prince Philip performing his royal duties.
	Darwin Day.
	They had a lot of coverage, BBC, and they always had these beautiful documentaries, and apparently there's the tortoise, this crazy-ass, humongous land tortoise that lives on the Galapagos Islands, which of course is where Darwin studied all these creatures, is almost extinct, and so they had a lot of news stories, but also full-length documentaries.
	It was pretty good.
	It was fun to watch.
	Well, we didn't get any of that.
	Of course not.
	Instead, you got a foundation about creationism.
	Okay.
	Actually, we didn't get much of anything, one way or the other.
	I think the thing was essentially just a dud.
	Okay, well, big over here, but of course these guys, the BBC schedules this years in advance.
	It's like, oh, it's Darwin's birthday.
	We've got to get ready.
	Of course, in the States, the coverage probably was Lincoln's 200th birthday, now that it seems like...
	Can you turn the speaker down just a tad, John?
	Absolutely.
	Thank you.
	What?
	Or headphones.
	Here's another concept.
	Headphones.
	It's very typical in radio.
	I use headphones when I do a lot of stuff, but when I do this show with you, I don't like them.
	Well, that just makes no sense.
	I don't use them with Leo either because I'm either looking at notes or I'm flailing about so much that the wire to the headphones would be knocking stuff over.
	Hmm.
	Okay.
	Sorry.
	Yeah, no worries.
	When I reorganize this little studio, I'll be able to do it, but I can't now.
	Right.
	So it appears to me that there's a huge push to connect Obama to Lincoln.
	Oh, yeah.
	And of course, there's already some...
	Yeah, exactly.
	Well, there's already some obvious similarities, Illinois being one.
	But...
	No, no.
	That is the similarity.
	I don't know, man.
	Interesting times during Lincoln's...
	Yeah, yeah.
	I mean, they're...
	No.
	That's it.
	I think you summarized it with one thing.
	Alright, so why don't we get to the news that, in fact, I believe that Lincoln was born in Illinois, if I'm not mistaken.
	He was or was not?
	I think he was, and I think Obama was born in Kenya.
	I'm sorry.
	That's a good one.
	So funny.
	So the big news that's been circling around is, of course, the Continental crash, Flight 3407 from Newark to Buffalo.
	Yeah.
	And I'm surprised you didn't blog this, and now it's everywhere.
	This happened a couple days ago.
	Almost immediately the news was out that one of the widows of a victim of 9-11, who really, several documentaries have been made about her, Who really pushed Congress and everyone really to follow up on what happened.
	Right.
	Well, they shut her up.
	Well, so that's obviously the big question.
	Is that even possible?
	You know me.
	I love air crashes because you learn so much from them.
	And this is a really weird one, John.
	They're actually pretty rare.
	Air crashes in general, statistically.
	Oh, yeah.
	I mean, there's 30,000 flights a day.
	Yeah.
	Of course they're very rare.
	But this one is an interesting one.
	Because there were icing conditions, yet absolutely no reason for this plane to come down in basically a stall and just fall flat, which is, you know, this is the data they're giving us, but the things that are really confusing to me is that the plane was actually pointing in the opposite direction of the way it was going before it landed, before it crash landed.
	It turned somehow, and it landed flat.
	Yeah, that's kind of weird.
	And so they're saying, well, it sounds like there was ice buildup.
	But, you know, the anti-icing systems are pretty good.
	And it's all automatic and it's not prone to any type of failure.
	Now they're saying that from the...
	The data recorders that the plane did...
	They haven't said yet that it entered into a stall, but they did say the stick shaker activated, which is basically the controls giving you a warning that you're entering a stall, which means you're not flying fast enough.
	I don't know.
	And there were 2,300 feet and...
	You know, they fell flat, so they didn't go down in like a nosedive.
	So if it was a stall, how fast would it...
	Certainly Newton's law comes into play here.
	If you're flying at 2,300 feet, how long will it take you to get to zero feet?
	I don't know.
	Just the speed of gravity.
	I mean, there's a calculation for it.
	That's what I was looking for.
	You don't know?
	No.
	Anyone in the chat room know?
	Because they say they were gone in 30 seconds.
	So it took them 30 seconds to drop that far and hit flat?
	That's according to the official information, yeah.
	Sounds about right.
	Could be.
	So, you know, now they're saying, well, maybe the flaps deployed unevenly.
	None of that sounds really, really super plausible.
	So, I don't know.
	Maybe they hit birds.
	Ha, ha, ha.
	Yeah.
	Perhaps.
	Frozen chickens.
	Well, you know, so you want to hear the theory about this?
	Because I like it.
	I think it's a pretty good one.
	All right.
	Why not?
	Okay, so we have to go back two days or a day before this crash to the, actually a couple days, to the satellite collision.
	Yes, by the way, I did blog that because two or three days later after the satellite collision, which by the way was a dead satellite, so I don't know how anyone knows it.
	Well, hold on a second.
	Well, let me just give you my story, then you can pound.
	Then I can tell you the truth?
	Yeah, okay.
	I'm sorry, what did you say?
	Go ahead.
	So I'm thinking, there's a satellite collision of these, you know, one old clunker, and I don't know what the other satellite was, but then about three days later, a bunch of people, it's either before Congress or somebody starting to make a fuss, we need more money for these programs so we don't have these collisions all the time.
	There's never been one.
	I think the whole thing was a fake.
	All right.
	So the satellite collision, if you would delve in a little bit closer, it's kind of important.
	So it is U.S. officials who were saying it was a defunct Russian satellite.
	Now, right.
	Okay.
	So let's just presume maybe it wasn't a defunct Russian satellite.
	The satellite that it collided with was one of the 65 low-Earth orbiting satellites from the Iridium Corporation.
	And Iridium, you'll remember, in the 90s, it was very exciting because here was this company who said, oh, you know, we've got it.
	We'll have this belt of satellites surrounding the Earth, and you'll only need one phone, and when you're on the ground, it'll connect to a ground station, and eventually it'll connect to your home network, and wherever else you are, it'll connect through the satellites.
	And everyone's like, yeah, that's a cool idea!
	Until, of course, the phone showed up and the antennas were basically sample soup cans on a stick, which is the ugliest devices you've ever seen.
	Completely just, you know, great if you're in the desert, but that's about it.
	So these guys ran into all kinds of trouble.
	They were bought and sold.
	And now this entire thing is like 89% Department of Defense.
	And by the way, it was Motorola that put those up and they have never been the same since.
	So, on the board of directors of Iridium, just as a little joke, Tom Ridge, you know, just to give an idea, he's a former U.S. Secretary of Homeland Security.
	The whole thing is, it's completely the Department of Defense, you know, the whole thing is just, just go to their website, iridium.com.
	Alright, alright, get back to the story.
	So seven times in the past ten years, Iridium has actually taken evasive action to avoid debris or perhaps other satellites in orbit.
	And this time they didn't.
	So the theory goes that it was a Russian spy satellite, and they were spying presumably over Korea.
	I'm not quite sure.
	I don't know why that's important to the story of Korea, whatever that has to do with it, but they were spying.
	And so the DOD decided to take that satellite out.
	Now, because of that, the Russians, who normally monitor electronic magnetic pulse frequencies...
	Could only detect, but faintly, the EMP pulse that came just before the plane crashed.
	So they're saying that Continental 3407 was brought down by an electromagnetic pulse weapon, which is pretty easy to make, by the way.
	It just disables the electronics.
	No, you can buy them online.
	Yeah, that's what it was.
	Okay.
	Well, I can't think of anything else that would bring a plane down, just dropping out of the sky, except for stalling it, perhaps.
	And I don't know.
	The snow just doesn't seem that 100% likely with the data that's given.
	Seems like a lot of work to get rid of that one woman.
	Oh, no, no.
	I'm just saying the two are connected.
	The spy satellite, that was for something else.
	They just didn't want the Russians spying or whatever they were spying on.
	This story needs work.
	It's two separate stories, John.
	First of all, the satellite was taken out, and I don't believe it was defunct.
	Who says it was defunct?
	The Russians haven't said it was defunct.
	I'm just saying, the news guys did.
	Thank you.
	I agree.
	The news guys said it, man.
	They're never wrong.
	Of course not.
	So it must be true.
	You know, the news guys...
	I saw this in Wired.
	This year the Pentagon will employ...
	Did you see the story?
	27,000 people in public relations and advertising.
	Yeah.
	Really?
	Verbatim.
	27,000?
	This year the Pentagon will employ 27,000 people for recruitment, advertising, and public relations.
	That's from the Associated Press investigation.
	I think this is a...
	That's the Department of Truth is what it is.
	I think this is a mistake, the way it's presented.
	What they're probably referring to is...
	Read it again.
	What were the three things?
	Recruitment, number one.
	And public relations.
	These recruiting stations that they have everywhere are manned by about 10 people.
	Yeah, but that's also PR, John.
	That's local-level PR. Yeah, I'm saying that is PR, but it's not the same as them having a bunch of PR stooges that are cranking out press releases or giving speeches to the Kiwanis Club.
	Right, but wouldn't Pepsi-Cola kill to have that type of force out there doing buzz marketing?
	I think they're probably, if you're going to count everybody who has anything to do with marketing and Pepsi, I think there's probably exactly that many or more.
	Right, that would make sense.
	But at least they're selling something healthy.
	Well, you know.
	It's the only job you can get nowadays.
	Yeah, well, no kidding.
	They were having all these trouble recruiting people a year and a half ago.
	Bush's people, oh no, nobody wants to go to Iraq.
	They're not having any problems now.
	No.
	Well, they're all staffed up, right?
	They can hardly even take new people on.
	Yeah.
	And if you're looking for a job in the sector that's not governmental, you can now go to Zee.
	Surely you've heard of the company GZ? No, I've never heard of the company Z. Spelled capital X, lowercase e, GZ? Oh, pronounce the name like the letter Z. I'm sorry, we're pronouncing it wrong.
	You pronounce it like the letter Z. That is the new...
	So it's Z, it's not GZ. Yeah, right.
	Well, I'm just reading it now, okay?
	Or XZ. GZ. That is the new name, the rebranding for Blackwater.
	What is that supposed to mean?
	It doesn't say.
	What was wrong with Blackwater?
	At least we could identify him, right?
	Come on, man.
	That's code.
	How cool is that to have a company like Blackwater, hey, man, just pronounce this like Z, you know, like Q. And it's X-E? Yeah, capital X, lowercase e.
	But it says the parents' company new name is pronounced like the letter Z. Eh, brother.
	But of course, this was just all a part of their plan for their company.
	They always intended to change the name.
	It has nothing to do with the fact that everyone knows Blackwater is just bad mojo.
	Blackwater.
	I can see the board meeting.
	Who named us Blackwater anyway?
	What was the point?
	Can't we come up with something a little more modern than that?
	Oh, man.
	And it turns out that XE has got to be like some horrible god from, you know...
	Of course.
	Of course it will.
	Of course.
	Of course it's some new world order.
	They're going to have another board meeting.
	Who came up with this idea?
	Totally.
	Oh, man.
	We so missed it.
	It came out on, I think, Sunday last week.
	We did the show on Saturday, right?
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	The Sun, which of course is a highly reputable newspaper.
	So they had this story that Vladimir Putin had...
	Had paid like 20,000 pounds for an ABBA tribute act to fly to, you know, to one of his parties in Russia.
	And then they say the guy's, you know, basically the final nail in the coffin of outing him because, well, this just proves it.
	Yeah, he's outing him as an ABBA fan, you mean.
	Outing him as extremely gay, and they show all those pictures of him with a shaved chest and, you know, riding a horse and...
	That's fantastic.
	Those guys have no shame.
	The sun.
	Well, you know, there you have Rupert Murdoch.
	Exactly, exactly, exactly.
	That would make so much sense.
	So you watched C-SPAN this week?
	Because I've watched so much.
	No.
	It's been so fun, really.
	Now, I caught a few interesting things on different other kinds of shows that are worth discussing.
	Yeah, what did you see?
	Well, one of the things is, and this is pretty obscure, but I'm going to get the document.
	One of the members of the Federal Reserve, one of the bank members, wrote a paper.
	Tracing the real crux of the economic condition to the bankruptcy reform law, which I believe was put through in 2005.
	And this is the one where they changed the bankruptcy law.
	By the way, it was called a consumer protection law.
	How fantastic.
	They tightened up the bankruptcy laws so it would be harder to go bankrupt.
	And, more importantly, if you had credit card debt, you still had to pay it.
	Even if you're bankrupt?
	Yeah.
	Right.
	And this was obviously done on behalf of the big banks that were screwing the public.
	And so it created, which of course ended up screwing them, which is the irony, but it created a kind of a messed up way.
	People were literally dumping their houses on the market to pay their credit card debts and other things.
	It's very delicate.
	Markets are very delicate.
	You pass some stupid law and it screws up the market.
	It could take decades before it can adjust to the new conditions.
	It was a very interesting theory.
	There was a different theory on CNBC. Was it called House of Cards?
	You didn't happen to catch that, did you?
	I think I may have seen it.
	They've had that on a couple of times.
	Yeah, it was good.
	And they took it back actually to September 11, 2001, saying, after a little bit of preamble about how American citizens actually aren't citizens but they're consumers and they're treated as such and they're called by name as consumers.
	We call ourselves consumers, in fact.
	So they traced it back to the shock of September 11, 2001.
	The president then saying, get back to work, continue shopping.
	And that, of course, Wall Street was hit as well, severely, literally and figuratively, on September 11.
	And that's when Greenspan started lowering the interest rates significantly.
	And the deregulation came into play, etc.
	And then this snuck in there, which is nice.
	But they were taking a little bit further back to basically mass mind control of back to shopping, let's make money easy, cheap, available, get a house, which I think is pretty fair.
	I don't know.
	I think the whole thing is that there's something amiss.
	I noticed that I was listening to or watching Democracy Now!, which is a left-wing progressive news show that shows up on Free Speech TV and Link and a couple of other things on the Dish Network.
	And this is the thing with Amy Goodman, that very dour, you know, announcer who tries to kind of announce like Walter Cronkite once did, with kind of that old-fashioned style.
	And...
	And it's got...
	It was very interesting because they're like this other thing.
	I don't know if you ever saw the Grit TV thing I gave you, but it's very similar to that.
	No, I haven't watched that yet.
	Yeah, you should watch it because the woman who runs...
	Laura Flanders, I think is her name.
	She is the host of that.
	She has a slight British...
	It's almost like a Stewie Griffin kind of a voice.
	Mm-hmm.
	She's kind of attractive in a milfy way.
	You might find that interesting.
	And she's only smiled, I think, twice in five years.
	I know exactly what you're talking about.
	She's not that milfy.
	She's okay.
	No, no, no.
	Maybe for you.
	You're on the upper end of it.
	You are a total milf seeker.
	A milf seeker.
	Beep, beep, beep.
	Mills.
	So, I didn't even know what the word meant until I met you.
	Anyway, so...
	It's a fact.
	So, anyway, unlike that show, which is really more of a discussion, Amy Goodman is, you know, she just tries to be a real new show, but they have extended interviews.
	And they had a couple guys on that were...
	They try to do kind of a crackpot Republican, if they can find one, and then a Democrat who's reasonable.
	But in this case, they had two...
	I couldn't tell what their political position was, and I was kind of shocked to listen to these two guys, because they were just...
	Leveling Obama with all kinds of accusations, which I was not expecting to see on this show, because this was one of the shows that promoted Obama.
	Both sides were doing that?
	Yeah.
	Oh, boy.
	And what was interesting was there's an underlying...
	Kind of a theme as they do it is as if Obama could do something other than what he's doing, which is bailing the bankers out instead of bailing out the homeowners, which is essentially the theme.
	And, you know, it's like the same old, same old, you know, we don't need what one guy calls an extractive group of people.
	In other words, people that just take wealth out of the economy, the bankers.
	Right.
	And then they also said, which by the way, we did get a note that somebody criticized us for making some not knowing that the Federal Reserve buys and sells treasury bonds because they actually run the whole system.
	And I don't know what we're thinking.
	Well, I'm still confused about that.
	I mean, I don't know if you want to get into it because it seems like a technical thing, but...
	No, that's what they do.
	They buy and sell treasury bonds.
	That's some part of their giant scheme to manipulate the economy as best they can.
	As long as that's the ultimate reason, I'm satisfied.
	I don't need to know how it works.
	As long as I know they're doing it to manipulate us.
	So, anyway, they're both going on and on about how the banks are...
	Both of them kind of said this, which is what one of our complainers told us, is that the banks are insolvent.
	And the term was used...
	I'll make it...
	Maybe I can get a copy of the audio track.
	We can play it next week.
	And these are referred to as zombie banks, which are banks that have...
	Well, they're all zombies, then.
	Minus assets.
	And to be giving them money is ridiculous because it just doesn't, there's not going to ever come back because it just goes into, it's a black hole.
	Well, I totally, are you done with it?
	Because I want to agree with this and I want to tell you why.
	Was there more to the story?
	Okay, well let me just finish up then.
	Anyway, so everybody seems to agree that the banks should be nationalized or closed.
	And one of the two guys mentioned that that's what the FDIC does for a living.
	Yeah.
	They grab these banks, and then they close them up, and then they reorganize them, and the shareholders are screwed, and then they put the bank back in business.
	And they say, there's no reason you can't do it with a big bank like Citibank, which apparently is a zombie bank that's broken.
	Giving them all this money is just throwing money away for guys.
	And in fact, Dan, this is the clip that I have to get.
	The guy makes, both of these guys make mention of the fact that AIG is like under indictment in Great Britain for being a fraud?
	Yes, that's correct.
	And meanwhile, and they said the only reason the British did it is because the FBI, nobody would act against these guys.
	Yeah, they were afraid.
	They gave them a bunch of billions.
	They went off and spent it in these resorts, you know, and started living it up.
	If that doesn't, that's not a giveaway.
	When you give some guy who apparently is starving to death or is like, you know, going to go out of business.
	Yeah, and he goes on vacation.
	And the first thing he does is go on vacation?
	Is this a sign that maybe something's amiss?
	You know, people get really pissed off when they give a guy a quarter and he goes and buys a pack of cigarettes.
	Then we're like, fuck these guys, man!
	Fuck you on the street!
	Sorry, I didn't mean to use that.
	But, you know, you give away billions to bankers who are clearly just putting it into their yachts, and it was like, oh yeah, whatever, what's next?
	But I think that, John, it's much clearer than that.
	The reason why they're not, you know, why Geithner, our Treasury Secretary, does not come out with a plan to, and this is what, people keep talking about the toxic assets, you know, the bad bank concept.
	The reason why they're not doing it Why they're just stalling.
	I have no idea what they're going to do, but they cannot show what is actually out there because even in just Britain, Britain alone, it was in the Financial Times on Friday, they believe that just the credit default swap That are out there.
	Would equal about $30 trillion.
	Just in Britain.
	So this thing has got to be so big.
	If you look at JP Morgan and Citibank.
	Bank of America.
	It may be $100 trillion.
	It could be a quadrillion dollars, which is $1,000 trillion.
	It's like academic if you just bankrupt all these banks and let the FDIC sort it out.
	But that's exactly the opposite of what they're doing.
	What they're doing is they're saying, well, we'll guarantee a part of the assets.
	There's all this bullshit, but at the end of the day...
	They have to save these guys so they can keep those yachts.
	Well, what I've heard every single politician say at some point in time is there would be...
	So they talk about...
	And I'm still looking for someone to actually say what the alternative is.
	If we don't pass this stimulus bill, well, the alternative is much worse, of course.
	No one will ever really say what that alternative is.
	I lost my train of thought.
	Aha!
	Fuck me.
	Hooray!
	Hooray!
	The point is that they're just not...
	This is what Japan did.
	Japan never got rid of...
	You were going on and on about how there's going to be $30 quadrillion.
	Not $30 quadrillion.
	It could be a quadrillion, easily.
	Because this started in the 80s, man.
	All this swap stuff.
	And the CDS is just one.
	You have a CDO. You have the synthetic CDOs, which is basically fake money made out of fake money, which is just incredible.
	It's so big that they all would be bankrupt overnight.
	Everyone would know they'd be solvent.
	And I believe this is exactly what Japan did.
	They never dealt with the toxic assets.
	Well, they did over time, over 20 years almost, to bring that economy back up.
	And they're absolutely in trouble.
	So this is just protectionism.
	Please, look at the people Obama has put on the case.
	Just look at them.
	They're all Bush and Clinton insiders going back as far...
	Well, they're all connected to Goldman Sachs.
	They're all connected to the Council on Foreign Relations, which we just kind of brush off every single time, but it's not like that's a governmental organization.
	It's like it's a club, and they're all in it, and we're not.
	What goes on in that club?
	I believe what goes on in that club as part of the Trilateral Commission is strategy is made on how to help the bankers take over the world.
	Oh, I know what I was going to say.
	Every single politician I've heard speak, any top politician recently, has always connected a global financial meltdown to an end of a political meltdown.
	They say, oh, well, you know, if If all of this goes, if the financial world melts down, it'll ruin not just all economies, but all political structure.
	And I find that interesting, because that doesn't have to be the case, unless they're intricately connected, which, of course, they are.
	Whatever the case.
	It's just to build more power for themselves.
	You don't think they have enough?
	No, of course not.
	Well, we need the smart grid.
	So we can control your washing machine.
	I don't know, I find that these science fiction scenarios, you know, where you have the, like in Star Wars, where you have that giant council.
	You know, with a million...
	Starfleet Command.
	Well, yeah, John, but, you know, look, 25 years ago, it would be total science fiction to say, hey, one day people will be walking down the street, and they'll just have a little thing on their ear, and they'll be talking to someone completely on the other side of the world, which is exactly what mobile phones and Bluetooth headsets are.
	So, to say that, you know, that sounds like science fiction, I don't know.
	Stuff is moving pretty fast.
	Wouldn't you say?
	Well, that's depressing.
	I'd still like to know what goes on at the Council of Foreign Relations.
	They have lots of...
	I think it's just a drinking club.
	It is.
	It's a...
	Actually, ever since I found out that Aaron Burnett...
	Yeah.
	Well, it's a Brzezinski drinking club.
	That's what it is.
	That's where those guys lay down the strategy and they tell everyone what to do.
	And I'm sure...
	Okay, now what's the Brzezinski book you think everyone should read?
	Because it actually lays out the entire plan for world domination.
	Oh.
	And knowing that Brzezinski, of course, is Obama's guy, he's the one who put Obama in there.
	What was that book again?
	I haven't unpacked all of my books yet, so I can't grab it.
	The Grand Chess Board.
	Is that what it is?
	Yeah.
	He lays it out.
	He lays all of this stuff out.
	And the way to create the one world government is by collapsing the financial system.
	And we're very close to that.
	The G7 meeting, I guess they've met now in Rome for the past three, four days, basically saying, well...
	I think we have to move this on to the G20. We can't do it all alone.
	It has to be the 20 biggest powerhouses in the world.
	So they're just drawing more and more countries in.
	And everyone's talking about a global economic system, and we all have to do it together, and kumbaya, and maybe we'll create one big world bad bank.
	So in other words, what you're saying, if you start to really look this over from a global perspective, what you're kind of saying is that if it wasn't for China, we'd be screwed.
	Think about that for a while.
	Yeah.
	They're not joining in this deal.
	Well, of course not.
	They're just waiting.
	They've got their own problems.
	So there's always been this group of internationalists, and I've always been amused by them.
	They have a lot of websites, and they're the slickest of all these crowds.
	And they're kind of...
	They're all neoliberals, a type of liberal that is hated by the progressives.
	And they...
	If you start digging, drilling down into their thought process, they do want one world government.
	They think the United Nations was largely, and the group before that, the League of Nations, which sounds like a movie.
	It has to do with the fact that every time that there was a world war, specifically World War I and World War II, where these guys kind of came from, they felt it was so disruptive and crappy that the only solution to world wars, and this is kind of, I thought, I think is actually kind of weirdly naive, is to have a one world government.
	Then you have to work, because there's always these governments fighting each other, they think, with these wars.
	But in fact, it's mostly internecine things, you know, little, you know, people, But this is no secret, John.
	They write about this in all of their documents.
	This is exactly what the neocons have always been working on.
	These aren't the neocons.
	These are the neoliberals.
	Same boat!
	No, but very few of the neocons, in fact, most of the conservatives, they hate the United Nations.
	They want to basically close off.
	In the worst case scenario, they want to be isolationists and get out of this world bullshit.
	It's not the case at all.
	The Council on Foreign Relations is an independent, nonpartisan membership organization, think tank, and publisher dedicated to being a resource for its members, government officials, business executives, journalists, educators, and students, civic and religious leaders, and other interested citizens in order to help them better understand the world and the foreign policy choices facing the United States and other countries.
	Founded by David Rockefeller, by the way.
	Think tank.
	Well, you know enough, don't you?
	And they're all a member of it.
	Clinton, Obama, Bush, Aaron Burnett.
	That hurts so much.
	Aaron Burnett.
	I wonder who else at CNBC is a member of this club.
	Oh, we can just look.
	How do you get in the club?
	I think you become a...
	You're probably invited to...
	Yeah, no, I realize that, but what's the criteria, do you think?
	Well, membership.
	I've never been invited.
	Well, hold on.
	Membership.
	You can have a corporate membership.
	Oh, how convenient.
	A life membership.
	It's kind of like the Universal Life Church.
	You can get a bishopship from the Council of Foreign Relations.
	You can?
	I wish.
	Rules and regulations to bear in mind, the candidate's nominator, you have to be nominated, bears the chief responsibility for seeing to it that filing deadlines, blah, blah, blah, blah.
	You have to be a United States citizen or permanent resident.
	A member who has a spouse, close relatives, not important.
	Hmm.
	So it's a nomination thing.
	So you're nominated and approved.
	Yeah.
	I wonder what the approval process is.
	Is there vetoes?
	Or is there one or two guys that say no?
	I think you have to lay down in a coffin and then talk about the most embarrassing moment you've ever had.
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	That's skull and bones.
	I get confused.
	I get confused from time to time.
	So our leader is going to be signing the stimulus package in Denver.
	Hey, wait a minute, wait a minute.
	He's signing it already?
	Because I was under the impression that one of his goals when he became president was to make sure that the public got a good look at all this stuff before it passed.
	Well, it's very interesting you mention that, John, because not only that, but they passed a quickie law there in the Senate, and let me see if I can find it.
	Yeah, here it is.
	Resolution from the House on February 10th.
	That there would be a 48-hour period to review the stimulus package before there was a vote.
	And, of course, there wasn't.
	By now, you've probably seen the YouTube clip of...
	In fact, I think it's the Republican...
	I actually have it here.
	If you haven't seen this, it's well worth it to listen to.
	Because it just shows you how these bills are rammed through.
	And he has this, it's a thousand, it's like...
	Oh, that wasn't enough.
	Here we are with 1,100 pages.
	1,100 pages, not one member of this body has read.
	Not one.
	There may be some staffer over at the Appropriations Committee that read all of this last night.
	I don't know how you could read 1,100 pages between midnight and now.
	Not one member's read this.
	What happened to the promise that we're going to let the American people see what's in this bill for 48 hours?
	But no, we don't have time to do that.
	So they actually passed a resolution that it would be available for 48 hours, and then they even ignored that.
	And they just went ahead and voted on it, and so now it is up online.
	I've, of course, downloaded it.
	It's about...
	That was like 30 or 40 megs.
	It's unbelievably huge.
	Have you seen it?
	Have you seen it with all the notes on it, the scribbles?
	No, I haven't seen it.
	Send me a copy.
	Please, I don't think so.
	Go to readthestimulus.org and you can download it yourself.
	Readthestimulus.org I did pick up a couple of things.
	You have to be a lawyer to read this.
	By the way, let me just mention a point of irony here.
	The Republicans moaning and groaning about the fact that no one's read this thousand-page document because they're ramming it through.
	Or the same people that rammed through the Patriot Act.
	It's exactly the same thing.
	Thank you for making the point.
	This is exactly what they do.
	This is exactly what they do.
	It's like, oh, every single day that we don't pass this, we have to do it immediately, we cannot wait, sign it now, quickly, quickly, quickly.
	Yeah, and then everything in this particular bill doesn't start until like a year from now.
	Oh, yeah.
	Lots of stuff doesn't start until 2010.
	So a couple of things that I pulled out.
	So the big thing everyone's talking about is Buy American.
	And so I think I just look at the headlines.
	Does that have to do with hookers?
	Yeah, that's subsection H. If it's done by the Democrats, there's got to be something in there for the hookers.
	But this is the whole protectionism thing that everyone has been up in arms about.
	So in the final compromise bill, it does say, Section 1605, by American, none of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available by this act may be used for a project for the construction, alteration, maintenance, or repair of public blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and the project had to be produced in the United States.
	So that goes for iron, steel, relevant manufactured goods.
	And they did put in one little gotcha thingy in the compromised version where they say, Section 1605 provides for the use of American iron, steel, and manufactured goods, except in certain instances, is not intended to repeal by implication the President's authority under Title III of the Trade Agreements Act.
	So I guess they put some little thing in there that the President can say, oh, hold on, yeah, you need to buy foreign for this particular thing.
	So they try to kind of get out of it.
	Well, there's a lot of situations where the goods that are needed for a project aren't made here.
	Are not available, exactly.
	Which makes it impossible to do the project.
	So you're going to plow through this whole thousand pages?
	Yeah, I looked at a lot of it, but I start with looking for relevant bits.
	I thought the broadband stimulus might be interesting.
	Does this come over as a PDF? Yes.
	Well, yeah, it's a PDF, but you can't search it all.
	Is it searchable?
	Most of it is searchable, but they have some photocopied pages that have just been inserted here and there.
	It's crazy.
	It's totally lame.
	I would go to the photocopied pages.
	Yes.
	Well, there's lawyerese.
	I can't get through that.
	Of course, that's where the real tricks are.
	But I was just looking at the normal stuff.
	Broadband stimulus, I thought, hey, maybe we can get us some money because there's $7 billion of it out there.
	And, in fact, it says grants will be made available to organizations and agencies that provide outreach, access, equipment, and support services.
	And services to facilitate greater use of broadband service by, and here it comes, low-income, unemployed, aged, and otherwise vulnerable populations.
	And I thought, hey, that's our entire producer base.
	It's perfect.
	Long road to get to that.
	We need a rim shot.
	Yeah.
	But it looks like that broadband stimulus, it's only for non-profits, and it's not for...
	We're not making any money.
	No, but I'm saying it's not for commercial companies.
	You can't participate in these $7 billion unless you're a non-profit, and it's nothing.
	There's nothing there that we could use.
	Oh, can I just say something about making money?
	A lot of people misconstrued what we were talking about last week.
	They think that we're now going to charge for this podcast somehow.
	Have you gotten any flack?
	No, I got a...
	It's funny, your listeners, your fan base really is slightly different than mine.
	They're more nutty.
	Well, no, no.
	A lot of them are out there just waiting to trip me up and then slice my throat.
	Yeah, you have a lot of that, too.
	Gotcha.
	So, yeah, gotcha.
	That's it.
	They're all looking for gotchas.
	They're all doing really important work in society.
	So, no, we're not planning on making this.
	No, what we're going to do is going to be voluntary subscription.
	Yeah.
	$2 a month.
	It's the same thing Leo charges.
	But you don't want to pay because you're cheap.
	As we guilt you into it.
	Well, no, I mean, it's just like if you don't want to pay because you can't afford it, or you're cheap, or you don't really like the show, or you don't feel obliged to support it because, you know, we want to avoid running ads, and we're going to sell T-shirts every once in a while.
	And you can go, I set up the PayPal account so people can subscribe on a continuing basis at two bucks a month.
	You know, I'd like to get 10,000 people.
	Hell yeah.
	Wouldn't that be nice?
	And we basically need it because when everything comes crashing down, we won't have any money either.
	No, it usually gets stolen from you.
	Even if you have a lot of wealth, it can just say, you know, what do you do?
	It just gets taken away from you.
	Of course.
	They just take it away.
	So, yeah, no, actually, I've got this set up on Dvorak.org slash NA. Oh, is it already up and working?
	Well, yeah, that is.
	I need to set up an unsubscribe thing, too, but Dvorak.org slash NA. No, you don't.
	What are you talking about?
	Dvorak.org slash NA. They send you the mail when they want to quit.
	Dvorak.org slash NA. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
	You can't...
	You can opt out.
	If you're doing $2 a month, you can stop it midway?
	Don't you have to complete your 12-month sponsorship?
	You can set it up different ways.
	Well, how are we setting it up?
	We're setting it up as just a continuation.
	You start paying $2 and you keep paying it forever.
	You could have it so it just expires in 12 months and then you can't opt out.
	Okay.
	I mean, there's all kinds of ways to do it.
	There's all kinds of ways you can do it.
	Okay.
	I mean, I'll probably set up all the options, but I just set up this simple one here just to see what that looks like, because I've got a little piece of code you can put on curry.com.
	You set up a subdirectory, na, curry.com slash na, and you just put this little piece of, you know, this index.htm file in there, and it'll forward it to the PayPal.
	Hey, XE, by the way, thanks to NetPierre in the chat room, is from the periodic table, the...
	What is it?
	Xenon.
	Symbol XE. Classification, a noble gas.
	That's right.
	I knew that.
	I never thought about xenon.
	And xenon is used in those light bulbs that you find on BMWs, Mercedes, and some American cars that when they're behind you, it looks blue.
	Yeah.
	And it never quite focuses on anything.
	These are these xen bulbs, you know, that replace halogens on high-end cars.
	And they're very disturbing to see, and they kind of scramble your brain when they're behind you.
	I think they should be illegal.
	Oh, those?
	Yeah.
	Yeah, those.
	Exactly how they ever got on the road is beyond me, because they're almost the color of a blue police, you know, when they have all the colorful lights, I forget the light bar.
	There's a lot of blue in there.
	And they're the same, very similar color.
	They're horrible.
	And I've been in cars and driven cars that use them, and I don't see that they're any better than anything else, that they're so focused on.
	And they blink, they kind of blink, and they're kind of awkward.
	I hate these things.
	They should be made illegal.
	They should be banned.
	And Xeon is obviously referring to the fact that these people are lighting the way to the future.
	Ah, there you go.
	A thousand points of light.
	It's a beautiful thing.
	Anyway, that's my guess on...
	On C-SPAN, I watched some of the banker hearings, which was quite fascinating.
	Anyone here have a private jet?
	Raise your hand.
	So what?
	These guys are, like, focusing on crap like that.
	Who cares?
	Meanwhile, Nancy Pelosi has a 767 take her back to California every week.
	No one ever talks about that.
	She does?
	Yes.
	Oh, yeah.
	Whose plane is it?
	U.S. Air Force.
	It's an Air Force plane.
	Yeah, in fact, there's a story back in, I think, 90...
	No, I'm sorry, 2005.
	Or maybe it was 2007.
	A couple years ago.
	The Air Force...
	She wanted to give her a jet that had to refuel halfway.
	And then she said, no, no, no.
	I want one that can go non-stop.
	And so then they got her a 767.
	There was a little flap about it.
	There was some...
	She was defending it.
	It's just like...
	It's stupid.
	It's so stupid.
	But this is what the public is being focused on.
	You know, that and bonuses.
	Well, the thing is, the bonuses thing is interesting because if you're giving somebody money and then they just immediately give it to themselves as a bonus for getting the money, I mean, it's kind of funny, but at the same time, I think these banks should need to be shut down.
	These banks have always been crap.
	I mean, you know, they set up shop and they started making all their money on credit cards.
	And then they started, you know, basically raping the public by getting the laws changed so that instead of nursery laws where he couldn't charge his ridiculous amounts of interest.
	You know, they charge 18% or more for, you know, somebody's little debt and to rack the bill up and break the person, break their customers.
	I mean, what kind of a bank, what kind of an organization's whole goal is to, like, break you so you're indebted to them forever and ruined, perhaps, for life?
	It's a mob!
	Thank you.
	And Joe Biden is like a mafia don, and, you know, you've got all these mob people.
	You're absolutely right, John.
	They're all mobsters.
	Rahm Emanuel...
	And they're all going to help each other, get as much wealth as they possibly can, and then go for all the power.
	You're totally right.
	The whole thing.
	Wall Street's a scam.
	The banks are a scam.
	But let's follow the logic.
	So I agree with you that, you know, hey...
	You can't have capitalism without bankruptcy, so these banks should go bankrupt.
	What happens then?
	Because it's so tied, everything is so tied into it.
	Every country, state, town, school, churches, they all have debt.
	I mean, how does that work?
	All of a sudden, okay, your house is free, your car is yours.
	It's not a bad idea.
	That would be okay.
	Yeah, of course.
	Nobody be complaining.
	Nobody be complaining.
	But in reality, it won't work.
	Forgive all debts.
	Didn't that used to happen?
	There's a name for it.
	Wasn't there almost biblical times?
	Wasn't there a day or several times this has happened?
	I read a story about this.
	Can you imagine the economy skyrocketing if you just forgave all debts?
	Jubilee?
	Is that what it was called?
	Your car?
	I don't know.
	Maybe.
	Yeah, Jubilee.
	Well, that's interesting.
	It's a concept.
	It is a concept.
	Forgive all debts.
	It'll straighten out the paperwork.
	Everything will start from zero, and we go back to work, start spending money, because we've got all kinds of money now, and go crazy and let the economy just crank right back up, and you take the whole thing right into, you know, the next...
	I guess the question is, do we keep the same government?
	I mean, the government would go out of business.
	Why?
	Why would they go out of business?
	Well, how are they going to, if they can't borrow, I mean, they have to get their debts.
	I don't know.
	It just doesn't sound like it would work, would it?
	I don't know.
	Why wouldn't it?
	Let the listeners decide.
	Forgive all debts.
	I think you should have to forgive all debts.
	A period of jubilee.
	It's basically what they're doing for the bankers.
	Let's just do it.
	Just do it.
	That'll help the bankers too.
	They won't have any debts either.
	The year of Jubilee is a special year for the remission of sins and universal pardon where debts are forgiven, slaves and prisoners freed, and the mercies of God would be particularly manifest.
	In the Old Testament book of Leviticus, a Jubilee year is to occur every 50 years.
	That's right.
	There you go.
	That actually makes a little sense because of the economic cycle.
	Would we be right on?
	Is it time?
	Well, it just seems like a good time if you ask me.
	There's a bunch of stuff in the Bible.
	Somebody just sent me a link.
	Yeah, Revelation.
	That would be the one to look at.
	Matthew 6.12 is a good one.
	Isn't Matthew 6.12, that's what you always see on the sign with the end is near?
	No, it's usually something else.
	There's a bunch of things people put on signs.
	I think you should put something really obscure thing on signs.
	Like Battery of the New World Order?
	Yeah, well...
	The next t-shirt coming out, which will be next week, is going to say Cripes across the front.
	You're just taking Dvorak stuff.
	What happened to Battery of the New World Order?
	I'm going to do that too, but this is going to be a permanent one.
	In fact, you never even say Cripes on the show.
	I mean, what is that?
	That's not a good no agenda t-shirt.
	Okay, I'll do the battery one with the Kripes one.
	The battery one I have to do, too.
	Sorry.
	Just Kripes is, you know, I don't say.
	You're right.
	Kripes is not a no agenda thing.
	I know, but I think Kripes is needed.
	Yeah, but you didn't bring this up at the staff meeting.
	We didn't discuss.
	In fact, we need another meeting.
	There's a bureaucracy around this show.
	All right, listeners, you clearly are needed here to help us with our T-shirts and our album art and our and our jingles as well, by the way.
	We need jingles.
	We need all kinds of stuff.
	Keep the show going.
	We want to crowdsource.
	And two bucks a month.
	Welcome to the new world order.
	Exactly.
	We'll do all the work and then pay you.
	This is how it's going to be.
	Absolutely.
	I love it.
	If you want to hear this kind of material.
	So, I was thinking about this when I was eating breakfast this morning.
	I kind of made it, since it's so cold and windy, kind of an English breakfast.
	And...
	I was thinking about this because I wanted to talk about linguiça for a minute.
	Linguiça.
	Which is a Portuguese sausage made from a meat that's pickled in wine.
	It has a very distinctive taste.
	Linguiça.
	A certain rotting taste?
	Yeah, it has a certain rotting...
	Well, good salamis in Europe have the same kind of a rotting character, but this is specifically different.
	It has a specific rotting, rotten meat taste that is delicious.
	Yum!
	Can I do the ad?
	It's really delicious.
	I mean, it smells more rotten than anyone else.
	But to make it, apparently, it's a very sketchy thing to do because it's an old formula that had to do with how you preserve meats and, you know, you had to let bacteria take over to keep the meat from actually being toxic.
	No one ever gets sick from linguiça.
	That I know of.
	And so I'm in Portugal and I, you know, having linguiça and making sure that apparently this formula has not changed for hundreds of years.
	And somebody just sent me a Skype note.
	Linguiça, not safe to eat, expert says.
	Yeah, Oakland Tribune, is that it?
	I'm going to look.
	Yeah, it was the Oakland trip in 2004.
	The audience is Googling just as fast as we are.
	This is cool.
	So, Linguisa, not safe to eat.
	Anyway, so Linguisa is absolutely delicious.
	Now, there was this guy in San...
	This, by the way, is going to be a real interesting roundabout way of getting to my point.
	So there's this guy in San Leandro, and I told this story to these Portuguese over dinner about this guy Santos, who was the linguiça specialist in San Leandro, and he made the absolute best linguiça.
	I've been eating it for decades, literally.
	And if I ever had a party, I'd have a bunch of it grilled and whatever.
	Absolutely phenomenal.
	But he was doing something that I guess was a violation of some health department thing.
	And the guys in Portugal say, yeah, you can see that because the way it's made, it's sketchy.
	It's an old, you know, it goes back hundreds of years and it's just the way it is.
	But, you know, you can't do this.
	And this is, by the way, happening all over the EU. And the Portuguese are very concerned about the EU cracking down on their linguiça.
	Yeah, it concerns all kinds of regulation that messes up old tried and true traditions.
	Right, things that work.
	So anyway, the guy shot and killed three health department guys.
	Oh, no way!
	So it's a new version of going postal.
	It's going Linguisa.
	So these guys thought this was somewhat amusing.
	Now, my concern is that I think I've told this story before.
	And I'm wondering as we go on, because our show is an hour and a half.
	You have not told this story before.
	We have these anecdotes.
	And these anecdotes are largely, we've told them to our friends if we haven't told them on the show.
	And I'm worried to death that we're going to start repeating ourselves.
	We do from time to time, or you do from time to time.
	I mean, me.
	Yeah, you have retold.
	It's happened a couple times, but only two times, maybe three times out of 72 episodes.
	But this one you've not told.
	I'm good at this.
	I'm good at this.
	Well, you can say, you know...
	I mean, I just say the same thing over and over again in a different way.
	But your anecdotes...
	If you're launching into an anecdote that we've heard before, I'll just say it.
	Dude, we've heard that one.
	Move on.
	Yeah, okay.
	Well, that would be useful.
	Because as a columnist who's been doing this forever, you know, you recycle a lot of stuff naturally.
	Yeah, you recycle material you do here on Twit.
	Yeah, I know.
	And so, I'm sorry?
	This is what I told you.
	So you recycle stuff naturally.
	Yeah.
	Hold on a second.
	Some guy wants to know if we're doing this on Skype.
	Anyway.
	So anyway, the point is that, but usually when you recycle a material, you either add something to it or you make it more concise.
	Or contract it or abstract it.
	Or you have a new thing to add to the anecdote to prove that you were right.
	Mm-hmm.
	Or whatever.
	I'm just saying, I was concerned about this as I was chewing on a, of all things, which reminded me of the Liguisa, was I was chewing on a SAGS, which is a brand out here, S-A-A-G-S, traditional British banger.
	Mm-hmm.
	For breakfast.
	And I have to say that over time, the SAGs, first they came out with a banger a few years ago, and it was just barely a banger.
	You know, a banger is essentially pork shoulder that is cooked with a lot of breadcrumbs or rusk and marjoram and sage and lots of salt.
	That's the recipe for a banger, a banger sauce, and it's ground very finely.
	And it tends to be very mealy, especially in England where you get up to 70% of the banger is actually bread.
	And you have to eat it with brown sauce.
	Well, not for breakfast.
	But anyway, and it's very mealy, but it's very tasty for some reason.
	Very tasty.
	It's got a lot of fat in it.
	Very fattened bread.
	Anyway, it's very tasty.
	And so they start off, eh, you know, it kind of tastes like a banger.
	But now I have to say they've gotten it so close that I'm actually impressed.
	And I'm very rarely impressed with these supposed bangers.
	And so that got me thinking about the linguiça, which got me thinking about repeating myself.
	Well, you'd be amazed at how shit the bangers have become over here.
	From time to time, they do these food programs, and people are eating convected flesh, basically.
	Convection.
	You know, the stuff that holds the muscle onto the bone.
	It's crap.
	All the total crap.
	All the supermarket food.
	That's why the Brits are dying.
	They're obese.
	They're just...
	It's bad.
	Real bad.
	How can you make a banger bad?
	I mean, it's just Moses.
	Just the ingredients.
	But they don't even put pork in there anymore.
	It's just chemicals and crap.
	And sawdust.
	God knows.
	It has nothing to do with food.
	Hey, how's Gitmo Nation?
	You claim that you live in the Gitmo Nation.
	I'm sure you're following your local issues there with your...
	Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger trying to fill the $42 billion gap.
	Last night they almost had a vote.
	Do you want to know what's going to happen to you?
	Well, let's see.
	Nothing worse than has already happened.
	State sales tax will go to 8.25%.
	That's a 1% increase.
	Vehicle license fees up a percent and a half.
	Twelve cents additional tax per gallon on gasoline.
	Reduce dependent care tax credit to $100 from $300.
	And surcharge on income taxes up to 5%.
	Yeehaw!
	Well, that's one way of doing it.
	I wouldn't mind them doing all this kind of thing if there was some evidence that they weren't stealing the money.
	Yeah.
	Well, they already stole it.
	Now it's for you.
	Now it's for your roads and just to keep the infrastructure together.
	But it's all shovel-ready, John.
	It's all ready to go.
	In 2012, we'll start shoveling.
	So Obama's going to sign this bill in Denver.
	Why?
	Well, Denver is a very interesting place.
	Denver is, of course, the headquarters of the New World Order.
	Surely you know that.
	No.
	Oh, it is.
	Northern Command is in Denver.
	CIA's headquarters, not headquarters, but their operations center is in...
	Who?
	The CIA's operations center.
	Since when?
	Hold on, I can look it up.
	I thought it was in Langley.
	I thought everything was in Langley.
	No, no, the real operations center has moved.
	Northern Command is out there, and of course the airport is, you know, there's all kinds of underground bunkers and shit out at Denver International.
	So you think that's why they moved that airport out into the middle of nowhere?
	Oh, well, dude, if you want...
	That has got to be the most dangerous airport.
	One time we were coming in, and the plane almost flipped over.
	Really?
	There's crosswinds that are just horrible there.
	It's just the worst place to land.
	Well, there's also all kinds of areas that you're forbidden to go, and when they were building it, people were getting sick, and there was some kind of electromagnetic stuff.
	Oh, there's a lot of radiation in Colorado, too, which is a problem.
	And there's also all kinds of...
	I mean, it's like there's a mining state.
	There's all kinds of weird mines for all kinds of weird minerals.
	The other thing is that I find it weird about that crappy airport, which is really just a junker.
	The first time I went to it, when they first opened it, I noticed there was bottlenecks.
	So if there was a panic in the airport or someplace, there's two or three pinch points where if they wanted to stop you from leaving, they could very easily.
	Mm-hmm.
	And the other thing is what's kind of, I think, just sick is that if you wanted to go in and pick somebody up at that airport, you have to go through the parking system.
	In other words, you have to get a ticket to even get there because there's armed guard gates before you go into the airport, but they're about a mile and a half to two miles away from the airport itself.
	Yeah, and you have like 15 minutes free on the ticket.
	And so you get your ticket, and you've got to go.
	If you don't pick the guy up within five minutes, you'll never get back out without having to pay a couple of bucks just to get out of there.
	But the fact that they have this thing cordoned off completely so they can just cut it off, because there's only one access road.
	It's this road that you drive forever, and you get out to this airport.
	Then you have to hit the guard gate, which is the...
	You know, for parking, as it were, which could obviously be converted to, you know, just armed guards.
	And then you go in and you have to run in there and grab your person and get out of there as fast as you can.
	Otherwise, you have to pay five bucks.
	So it's just a horrible place.
	2005, the CIA relocated the headquarters of its domestic division responsible for operations and recruitment in the United States from Langley headquarters to Denver.
	And the FBI has based much of its international and domestic counterterrorism forces there as well.
	This is the New World Order Command Center.
	But when you read a little bit about...
	Maybe these guys just like to ski.
	Yeah, that could be.
	But they've got this whole underground building complex and underground trains and they built a runway that they then covered up.
	So they built a whole runway, then covered it all up again.
	And this is, you know, like documented.
	But they were building that thing for how long?
	Was it like 10, 15 years it took them to build it?
	It was forever, it seemed.
	And it cost $4 billion?
	So I got some links here.
	Somebody says Northern Commands in Colorado Springs, which is nearby.
	Yep.
	And...
	That's right.
	It says officials have blocked access at the Denver airport.
	Officials have blocked access to content they deem provocative on the airport's free Wi-Fi service.
	Yep.
	And if you look at the murals, they're really freaky.
	They've got like these kind of Hitler-esque figures and there's a Masonic time capsule in the airport.
	Yeah, it has a whole Freemason thing.
	They put it there March 19, 1994, to be opened in 2094.
	And the other thing that's weird about that airport is, of all the airports that have ever been built, they build these new airports outside of town.
	It's the newest thing to do.
	And...
	This is the only time they took the old airport, which was Stapleton, I think, was the name of it.
	And as soon as the other airport went into service, they took a bunch of jackhammers and jackhammered up all the runways.
	So it couldn't be ever used again under any circumstances.
	Mm-hmm.
	Now, they didn't do that with Midway in Chicago.
	They didn't do that with Love Field in Dallas.
	They didn't do it with Rakin International.
	No, not true.
	Midway, they did destroy the runway.
	But they didn't jackhammer the whole thing up.
	They just put jackhammered trenches on it so you can't land.
	You can land at Midway.
	That's where Southwest goes.
	What's the one they closed then?
	Wasn't that Midway?
	Oh, I'm sorry.
	It was the other one on the island there.
	I'm confused.
	I have no idea.
	Get that picture.
	Yeah, I'm looking at it.
	Of course, you know, when you send files over the Skype while we're...
	Nah, it's not that bad.
	So this is a mural.
	And I've looked at this.
	I've been through DIA several times.
	Where is this mural?
	This is in Denver International Airport.
	It's like a dead child.
	A dead girl?
	Yeah, and she's in a coffin.
	A dead girl in a coffin and she has a Star of David and the Bible in her hand.
	It's freaky, man.
	Where is that in the airport?
	It's these huge murals.
	I mean, do you not look at your surroundings?
	Yeah, no, I take pictures in airports.
	I can't believe that you've never seen it.
	Look at this one.
	This is the one that freaked me out.
	Because I remember seeing this.
	I remember I was with Bloom.
	His brother lives out in Denver.
	And I'm like, dude, what is this?
	Hold on.
	Look at that one.
	This is...
	It's Meg's Field that's closed.
	Where's Meg's Field?
	I think that's near the marina or something.
	Hmm.
	Dead babies and Commander Skeletor.
	And so you saw these things?
	Because they may have been at the terminal I was at.
	I only have gone to the United Terminal.
	What the hell is this one?
	I know, isn't it crazy?
	It's kind of like a Nazi guy with a death mask and a machine gun.
	A big sword and a machine gun.
	And the sword is pricking the dove.
	It looks like the dove is pierced.
	Yeah, it's freaky.
	What terminal is this in?
	Let me see if I can find...
	The only Denver airport...
	I don't remember terminal, but I remember walking forever.
	Huge, huge tent structure building.
	Well, that's the United.
	It's got the tents.
	I think it's pretty much all tents.
	It doesn't say...
	Where they're from.
	Now I'm going to have to take a connection through Denver and look around some more.
	So there's all kinds of crazy stuff going on out there.
	And just as you say, the fact that the checkpoint is a mile away from the airport.
	And yeah, it's for parking, but we all know it's really a checkpoint.
	I'm sure they check you at that point.
	Not just pay your parking, but show me your something.
	Your papers.
	Yeah, your paperwork.
	No, papers.
	So you must see your papers.
	Ausweisbitte, is that what you're trying to say?
	No, it's...
	So I'm kind of thinking that Colorado, Denver in particular, Denver International Airport, that seems pretty important.
	That's an interesting theory.
	This art kind of will have to make me rethink the possibility.
	Because this is pretty sick stuff.
	Yeah, there's a couple other ones.
	I'll send you some links.
	But the Masonic Time Capsule is always a good giveaway that there's New World Order afoot.
	And so there's another, there's a girl holding a Mayan tablet.
	And someone looking at a burning city.
	There's another coffin picture with an African-American or African girl laying in a coffin.
	I remember seeing these and thinking, wow, I thought it was like a temporary expo.
	On that picture...
	Of the Nazi guy?
	Yeah.
	There's a child, and she's holding...
	Can you see that?
	There's a little child there.
	Yeah, she's holding a doll.
	Right, but there's also a note next to her.
	And if you zoom in, you can on that picture, it's a note from Herma Herchenberg, who was 14 years old, who died December 18, 1943, in Auschwitz.
	And it's like a little thing she wrote, which is horrible.
	Funky, huh?
	Yeah.
	So anyway, that's where our president's going to be, safe and sound.
	And that's where he's going to sign the bill.
	Well, that would be interesting if they tried to move the government to Denver.
	For national security reasons, of course.
	Yeah, because it's hard, you know, you can't do much.
	I mean, you know...
	They're probably, you know, the attacks that take place by al-Qaeda are in an eight-year cycle, and at least, you know, short-term it appears to be.
	And so we should have another one this year, you know, at the end of the year.
	It should be some crazy thing that happens.
	Yeah, that would be a perfect reason to push the agenda a little bit further.
	Yeah, and push the agenda a little bit further.
	Well, we need some kind of shock.
	But what is the reason for going to Denver in the first place?
	Well this is a good question.
	Well let's see.
	You know, on the stimulus bill, and we're going to wrap it up pretty soon, just one more thing, and I still can't believe that journalists haven't called out the administration on this.
	The president, let me see if there's a reason.
	I'm just looking at whitehouse.gov.
	Let me see the agenda.
	Doesn't he usually, isn't there a thing that, don't they somewhere tell you what he's doing?
	Isn't there the President's Diary or something?
	Probably Diary, President's, Barack's Diary.gov.
	We're waiting for Recovery.gov to come online, but of course I guess he has to sign it first.
	But on the weekly address, which I appreciate the fact that they're still doing that.
	He again says the stimulus package will save or create three million jobs.
	Can someone please just call him on this?
	Can any journalist anywhere please just say, what does that mean exactly?
	Save or create?
	If saving jobs is one thing, but is it saving them or creating them?
	Is it $3 million or is it $6 million?
	And saving doesn't mean anything.
	You know it's just a bunch of BS. By the way...
	But John, this is incredibly irritating.
	I want to read you this little thing that one of my guys sent me.
	If my wife did that to me, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd bitch slap her.
	I'm giving you some leniency.
	Yeah.
	I just want to read this before we get off topic, which is happening as we speak.
	According to at least this note, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said on CBS News Face the Nation this morning about Denver, it's as good a place as any to sign the measure into law.
	Good as place as any.
	Nothing special going on here.
	Just an airport.
	I'd like to get somebody to confirm this because I find it hard to believe, A, that this guy would say that, and B, that the Face the Nation person didn't follow up with, what do you mean by that?
	Is this guy just going to float around like an itinerant bum and just sign bills wherever he feels like it?
	Like a whore sleeping around?
	I mean, give me a break.
	Well, let's look at the press briefings.
	When was this?
	What press briefing was it?
	I suppose it was on CBS's News Face the Nation this morning.
	Oh, this morning?
	Oh, okay.
	Hmm.
	Well, yeah.
	I'm not quite sure.
	Is he going to Denver to visit some business or something?
	Like, he went to Illinois to go to Caterpillar, but that was kind of campaigning.
	He seems to be floating around way too much.
	I think he's afraid to stay in Washington.
	Do they know something we don't know?
	I can hear people Skyping you.
	Now they're totally into it.
	Now they're like, oh yeah, we've got a direct line to inject some stuff into John.
	Yeah, well.
	Yeah, no, that's good.
	There it is.
	Here's a story in the swamp.
	Tribune, Washington's bureau.
	Chicago Tribune.
	Obama-Denver signing.
	Good as any.
	Big front page.
	Not front page.
	Front page on this blog.
	By Mark Silva.
	President Barack Obama will fly to Denver, the place where he accepted the Democratic Party nomination, maybe it's symbolic, to sign the new American Recovery and Investment Act into law on Tuesday.
	It's as good a place as any.
	Blah, blah, blah.
	Watch for a lot of Obama's biggest initiatives in the war recession to carry data outside of Washington.
	And this one is big.
	What's the point?
	There's no real analysis here.
	This has got to be one of our points of research.
	Well, I think we'll just have to wait and see.
	I mean, I didn't quite make my long bet of February 14th of the market being $72.86.
	I came pretty close.
	You know, we only need two more days of 300-point drop, and I would have been there, so I lost $100 to Bloom.
	But I'm glad I'm not right, because we'd be in a much worse place.
	But I believe when this bill is signed...
	Yeah, the market is already showing, the future is already down 200 points on the Dow.
	The market's not seeing it.
	It's just, something has to happen.
	We need some kind of event.
	I believe that they're looking for some kind of event.
	Something has to take place to move stuff forward so they can cover other stuff up.
	That's what they're pretty good at.
	Well, this Denver thing is disconcerting.
	Okay, so we'll put that in there.
	Write that down.
	Let's make that a research item.
	What else do we have?
	I mean, I've got a couple other things.
	I can just run through them quick, see if anything strikes your fancy.
	You know, I'm looking at this picture that's in this thing.
	I'll send you the link.
	Yeah.
	You have to look at this now.
	I mean, I'm sorry.
	All right, go ahead.
	Send it to me.
	We'll be on the air forever here if I'm not...
	Trouble is always at the end of the show we get...
	Well, we only talk for about an hour after the show as well.
	I mean, it's not like we're ending this by choice.
	We're ending it because everyone starts yelling at us otherwise.
	Well, where's your message box?
	I can't listen to two shows that are an hour and a half long every week.
	I don't have the time.
	No, actually, the people that really appreciate this show are the ones that have three-hour commutes.
	Of course.
	I mean, there are people out there that have these ridiculously long commutes and they need some, you know, continuous something that keeps them from falling asleep at the wheel.
	Yeah.
	I think we do their job.
	And there'll be lots of people who won't have a job.
	And they'll have plenty of time to listen to us.
	That's probably going to hurt our listenership.
	But anyway, look at this picture of Obama.
	I hope it won't hurt our listenership.
	This is a picture of Obama.
	Well, who knows.
	There's a picture of Obama in the swamp.
	He's at the CVS. He's at the pharmacy.
	No, he's actually going into a restaurant, they say.
	Next to the CVS? Take a look at Obama's profile.
	Look at the size of his butt.
	Wow, his ass is huge.
	No, no, wait.
	Oh, yeah, his ass is big.
	This is the other Obama.
	Wait a minute.
	Or maybe he's wearing a butt-flak jacket.
	This just doesn't...
	I mean, this is not a...
	This makes no sense because this guy's in the ultimate shape for a president, that he would have this profile.
	I mean, this does not look right.
	You've got to be careful.
	This looks like a big fat Obama.
	Yeah, but there's a guy behind him, so you've got to kind of make sure you don't...
	Oh, yeah, but that...
	Maybe it's just an unfortunate fitting pantalon.
	Yeah, it's possible.
	We give him the benefit of the doubt.
	It's the other Obama.
	I love it.
	I love it.
	And it says also, President Barack Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama dined at Table 52 in Chicago for Valentine's Day last night.
	They returned to Washington on Monday.
	Where's Michelle?
	I don't see her.
	She's in his trousers.
	That's why it's so huge.
	That's where she is.
	She's hiding in there.
	She's hiding in there.
	Well, hold on a second.
	I have another Obama picture.
	Wait a minute.
	Oh, good.
	We can check something here.
	When was this picture taken?
	This was taken last night, or Valentine's night, yeah.
	Wait a minute, wait a minute.
	This was...
	Okay, because I have a picture.
	This was the restaurant where they had their private Valentine's dinner?
	Yeah.
	Okay, hold on.
	I have a different angle.
	You want to call it private.
	Yeah.
	Nice plug for CVS Pharmacy.
	Yeah, hell yeah.
	What kind of restaurant is located next to a CVS? Is that like a Kentucky Fried Chicken, or Arby's, or...
	I think Table 52 is a fancy place.
	I haven't eaten there.
	And apparently it's Oprah's chef who cooks everything for her.
	Hold on, I got a picture from the other side.
	Can't quite see his ass.
	Here, I'll send you the link.
	I'm going to post all of these links, by the way.
	I have a system now.
	So that you guys can go and look at all that stuff right after you listen to the stream or whenever.
	Whenever you hear the show.
	See, there you can't see his ass.
	But Michelle does have a doggy bag.
	That's kind of cute.
	They took food back from the restaurant.
	Is the leader of the free world.
	And Michelle, that's a doggy bag, isn't it?
	Just like you, John.
	It has to be.
	Of course, it's a pretty big one.
	It must have been over-ordered.
	We'd like some catfish to go.
	Okay, then we have...
	Yeah, so just one quick thing on the executive pay at these banks.
	You know, so now everyone's kind of backpedaling, and some legislation has been taken out, and now there's all kinds of warrants and stuff that still can be done.
	So it's not like these guys are going to really be hurting by the bonuses not being paid out.
	But if the argument to change that, to kind of backpedal on that regulation, is that you can't attract the right talent to get us out of this situation.
	Shouldn't we be paying our lawmakers bonuses and billions of dollars and let them do stuff right?
	Don't we have subpar talent, if that's really true?
	We have these idiots running the country?
	That's an interesting argument.
	No one ever says that, but it's like, oh, well, for banking we need the smartest people.
	They have to make $20 million a year.
	Yeah, these guys are so smart, how come they're all broke?
	I mean, they're not personally broke.
	Oh, they're smart at feathering their own nest.
	So I was looking into jet travel because I kind of got interested when I heard about Nancy Pelosi, that she has a 767 flyer back and forth to San Francisco, I think once a week.
	You know, that's not a cheap plane to fly.
	I wonder if you can get a ride on that thing.
	Well, 200-seater, so yeah, I'm sure she's taking all kinds of people.
	Yeah, well, I'm sure she doesn't take $200.
	Maybe I should cozy up to Nancy Pelosi's office and see if I can get a free ride back and forth.
	Well, here's the system in Washington.
	You are allowed to fly on a private aircraft paid for by a company or a lobbyist, for that matter, if there's a difference, as long as you pay a first-class fare.
	So who do you think did that 23 times when he was senator?
	Who?
	Obama.
	23 different times he took lobbyist aircraft.
	I thought he was against lobbyists.
	And it was funny because somewhere I have a YouTube clip.
	If I could find that, that would be really cool.
	I thought I saved it.
	I wonder if the lobbyists give you frequent flyer miles.
	They probably do.
	I can't find it.
	That's too bad.
	It was a piece from the debates.
	And so there's all the Democratic nominees on stage.
	And then the moderator, was it Sam Donaldson, I think, maybe?
	He said, who of you came here by private jet?
	And so everyone raises their hand except one guy who actually did take the train and then Obama who kind of like puts his hand up and then puts it down like a schoolboy who doesn't really want to, you know, say yes.
	And they said, well, not today, yesterday.
	He's so phony.
	I can't find it.
	I'll have to look for the...
	Oh yeah, here it is.
	This is funny.
	I got it.
	It'll be worth it.
	It's really short.
	What is it like?
	Let me just ask a question to everyone on this stage.
	And I know we said we wouldn't do a lot of show of hands.
	It's probably the only one we'll do tonight.
	How many people here took a private jet or a charter jet to get here tonight?
	Obama's hand goes up and down.
	And up and down.
	You're not sure?
	Yesterday.
	Yesterday.
	Okay.
	What a tool.
	What was that?
	I wasn't sure what the question was.
	A private jet today?
	No, I didn't take a private jet today.
	Well, yesterday I took a private jet.
	That's Obama.
	That's so funny.
	What was that again?
	What's his name?
	Anderson Cooper.
	Anderson Cooper, yeah.
	But when was that?
	This is the 23rd of July 2007, so it was a Democratic debate.
	Or something.
	It was the big televised Democratic debate.
	One of them.
	One of the big ones.
	Maybe it was the YouTubed one.
	A lot of them were YouTubed.
	Okay.
	One more.
	United Nations.
	Who, of course, are garnering some strength here and there.
	There's a treaty that has not been ratified in the United States, but it is kind of waiting to be ratified.
	And this is a treaty that could prohibit children from being spanked or homeschooled and essentially take all power away from parents.
	And, well, here it is.
	Parents would no longer be...
	Oh, that's a good one.
	Yeah, it's...
	The CRC is what it's called.
	Madeleine Albright signed it February 16, 1995, but the Senate did not ratify it, so there's rumblings that it's going to happen.
	So here's a couple of highlights.
	Parents would no longer be able to administer reasonable spankings.
	Children would have the ability to choose their own religion, while parents would only have the authority to give their children advice about religion.
	The best interest of the child principle would give the government the ability to override every decision made by every parent.
	If a government worker disagrees with the parent's decision, a child has a right to be heard.
	Allow him or her to seek governmental review of every parental decision with which the child disagrees.
	Can you imagine some of these kids who like to take advantage of their parents already?
	Oh, man.
	They're fantastic.
	I'm sorry, Mom, but I think that's up for arbitration.
	Let me call my lawyer.
	The UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, the CRC, is what it's called.
	It's interesting.
	There's a lot of UN stuff that is bubbling.
	Oh, and I can't even believe our favorite topic all over the news today...
	They're giving it one more go, because it's very important to you know, you have to understand that now the pace of climate change is exceeding all estimates!
	Brand new.
	It's all over the news.
	How does that work?
	Christopher Fields, founding director of the Carnegie Institution's Department of Global Ecology at Stanford University, says, we are basically looking now at a future climate that's beyond anything we've considered seriously in climate model simulations.
	Huh?
	Huh.
	Yeah, so it's another...
	Of course he's a member of the IPCC. Of course.
	Of course.
	Yeah, this is...
	The BBC was all over this, of course.
	So he probably has...
	Yeah, the BBC. So he probably has some vested interest of some sort.
	Well, yeah.
	IPCC is...
	It's United Nations again.
	It's all United Nations.
	Yeah, no, the IPCC is bad.
	Yeah.
	And there's thousands of scientists who are saying, hey, wait a minute.
	We don't agree.
	But they're just being ignored.
	It's a political thing.
	It's like, oh, no.
	And of course, if you disagree with climate change, you get hate mail.
	And probably worse.
	I think it's weird that you'd get hate mail for disagreeing with climate change.
	The man-made climate change is the issue.
	It's just not like, you know, it's almost as though it's like the Macintosh versus the PC. You know, you could criticize the Macintosh and you get hate.
	You criticize the PC, nobody cares.
	It's like there's something wrong with the brains of the people who are, that take this stuff so personally.
	Ah, well this brings us to the century of the self, which I think you recommended to me.
	Yes.
	You should look at that again, because that's exactly what's going on here.
	Well, somebody sent us an email discussing the brainwashing techniques of the hypnotist.
	Right.
	Did you get that?
	Yeah, and he's a hypnotic analyst or whatever, and he said...
	Well, he's actually a professional hypnotist, stage hypnotist.
	Oh, let's look at it.
	I'll find the email right now.
	But he said that the way...
	I love that email.
	Hold on.
	Hyp...
	Come on, Gmail, do it for me.
	I'm just going to Google hypnosis.
	Let's see if it works.
	Did he use that word in the email?
	Yes.
	Yeah, he did.
	God, I love it.
	Okay.
	I'm a trained practicing hypnotist.
	Your conscious mind is a sort of gatekeeper.
	I was already gone by the second paragraph.
	I'm like, yes, you have control of me.
	Okay, hypnosis can be...
	Hypnosis moves that conscious part or the gatekeeper out of the way...
	Stop rummaging with your papers, John.
	It's noisy.
	I'm sorry.
	Okay, so hypnosis moves that conscious part, the gatekeeper, out of the way so you can place suggestions into the unconscious mind.
	Hypnosis can be induced through boredom, confusion, and shock.
	Confusion seems to be a favorite for Obama.
	A simple example is the Office of the President-Elect signs that were placed on his podium.
	There's no such office, so when you see the sign, your conscious mind goes into overdrive trying to figure it out, first questioning the office and then reconciling the hubris.
	While your conscious mind is busy with all that, they are slipping one past the goalie, which I did last night to Patricia.
	She kind of liked it.
	So what I'm doing now is letting that confusion be an indicator for me.
	When I feel it, I interrupt that natural tendency.
	So then he goes on to say some more interesting things.
	He says, I never ever listen to the music they play prior to press conferences because it shows that your brain goes into a certain state and although it really wouldn't hypnotize you, it makes you ready to be hypnotized.
	But this is...
	This is, of course, this is the same thing Goebbels was on to, John.
	This is nothing new.
	So, yeah, it is the same thing.
	The Mac, Apple, fanboy, well, in that case, it's kind of protectionism, but it turns into almost hatred and cultism.
	I think it is the same thing.
	It's the same Obama phenomenon.
	Same thing.
	Yeah, the Bama thing, the man-made global warming, Macintosh.
	There's a bunch of these things.
	They're actually kind of frightening.
	So how do we take advantage of that, and how do we use that system?
	To get our $2 subscriptions at dvorak.org.
	Yeah, hell yeah!
	All right, yes.
	I would call that the moment to cue the tune.
	I don't know.
	There's got to be some way.
	We'll work on that in the weeks ahead.
	Yes, we will.
	That was from Eric Blazinski, by the way, our official hypnotist of No Agenda.
	Well, maybe he can help us.
	Maybe he can give us some pointers on how to do this.
	Yeah, we could use a cult.
	Wouldn't that be cool?
	If we were as beloved as the MacBook Pro?
	A girl can dream, can't she, John?
	Alright.
	So we're getting our storm coming back.
	So how long was that?
	134.
	Perfect.
	We never can just really shut up by...
	Like one hour, which I think we'd both like it to be one hour for consumption purposes, but it's impossible, so we just have to keep going.
	And we'll talk for another 45 minutes after we stop recording.
	Right?
	Yeah, we can make that a premium channel.
	On Sirius Satellite.
	Hey, they're saying Howard Stern's going to start podcasting.
	Yeah, right.
	Yeah, exactly.
	I mean, just he's not relevant anymore.
	Except if what I suggested is he should go all conspiracy all the time.
	Well, then he'd be taking us on.
	I don't want that.
	I think you have to have a certain mentality to go in the direction that you in particular are in.
	Oh, yeah.
	Oh, please, mister.
	That's the other Obama.
	Are you kidding me?
	I'm just saying there's something.
	I'm still suspicious about these things.
	I mean, I watch the movies.
	Okay, so here's what I'd like audience members to do.
	Thank you, by the way, for participating in the chat.
	Lots of helpful info coming through.
	Drop all relevant information at drop.io slash daily source code.
	I'm going to have to change that one pretty soon because we use it more for no agenda than anything.
	Drop.io slash daily source code.
	And so we're looking in particular into research surrounding Denver.
	What else did we have?
	What else did we want to look into?
	Hypnosis?
	Well, Denver hypnosis, the two Obamas.
	The two Obamas.
	It's like a sitcom.
	Brzezinski, I like this rights of children thing.
	You know, they're always trying to take, you know, like in Berkeley and in California in particular, it's illegal to homeschool.
	They make it very difficult.
	That's outrageous, isn't it?
	Well, they can't give the kids the propaganda that they need.
	And so we've actually homeschooled our daughter, but we did it through Washington State.
	Yeah.
	I pledge allegiance to Obama.
	And anyway, okay, I think we're done.
	All right.
	Anyway, so that was the plug.
	Oh, and yeah, go to dvorak.org slash na and give our form a try.
	Coming to you from Gitmo Nation, east and southwest London in the Curry Terrace, I'm Adam Curry.
	And I'm John C. Dvorak here in northern Silicon Valley, part of California.
	Gitmo Nation West in that regard, but the Gitmo Nation so far as the big picture is concerned.

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