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Nov. 24, 2007 - No Agenda
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Once again, it's time for the show that has no jingles, no commercials, no music, no talent, and most certainly no agenda.
Produced on a Skype-a-phonic transcontinental connection, it's the ultimate oral friends with benefits.
From the Manor, just south of London, I'm Adam Curry.
And I'm John C. Dvorak in Northern California.
Hey John, how you doing?
It's a Saturday evening for me, Saturday morning, afternoon for you?
Yeah, it's hitting around noon now.
Actually, it's noon.
But you notice our connection is a little weird.
I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the Thanksgiving.
Everybody took off this weekend.
You think the connection, at least in the U.S., would be a little better?
Well, I'm not sure.
You know, the connections over here in the U.K., we have such varying quality.
And really, it's a countrywide problem.
So I would say it's probably on my end, if anything.
And, of course, I've got two women in the house who love watching YouTube videos.
Well, that's not good.
No, it's not good.
Hey man, dominating the news here in the UK. Do you know what it is?
You know what?
Tell me.
It's the missing 25 million records on CD-ROMs.
Yeah, we actually blogged that thing on the Dvorak.org slash blog blog.
Yeah, I know.
Apparently what happened there...
I'll give you the story from what we've heard.
Even though it's hardly big news here, we just kind of...
If it's not about what's going on here, we don't care that much.
But it sounds as though somebody in the government sent two CD-ROMs in the mail.
I guess they just dropped them off into one of the boxes on the corner.
And they never got delivered.
There's no receipts or anything, so they don't know where they are, and they're worried sick.
Although the discs apparently were encrypted, I don't see what the fear is.
Well, there's a couple things going on with this.
First of all, there's been talk of a national identity card in the UK for quite a while now.
So this is more about...
What happens with your data?
What is the government doing with your data?
Is there any privacy?
Which, of course, is really interesting for a country that has, I don't know, 20,000, 30,000 cameras hanging everywhere.
You can't take a crap without a CCTV camera capturing it.
So, privacy concerns put aside.
This was part of a coming clean in Parliament on the side of the Labour Party.
Where, you know, there's been all kinds of little scandals that have taken place.
And I guess, you know, this disc, I don't think they actually put it in the mail.
It was supposed to be delivered by TNT, which is kind of the, you know, FedEx-type service in Europe.
The story I read was it was put in the mail.
Hmm.
I have a feeling that it just got lost inside some government mailroom and it didn't actually leave the building.
But even so, to think that this is the only disc that has ever been burned, that this came from the only person who has access to those records.
Not one single computer expert has been on TV or in a newspaper or anyone who actually knows how the government records are handled.
All it is is...
It's big jokes about the missing CDs.
Of course, everyone who has an opportunity to do a joke about it on television or in the newspaper is just continuously full.
But it has nothing to do with the actual data.
I think it has everything to do with the national ID card and the fact, and this of course is what's coming out now, all these reports, that identity fraud is a big deal and that it's very easy to steal someone's identity and go shopping on the internet.
So the concern is about they're going to have a national identity card and they're going to collect even more data, but they're so careless with this data that these people should be tarred and feathered.
Exactly.
So the bottom line is we can't trust the government with our data.
I think that's what's really going on here.
Everyone's talking about it.
That's front page along with, of course, Madeleine McCann.
That just doesn't stop.
The seven-year-old kid who was abducted in Portugal.
Yeah.
Or they think it was abducted.
It doesn't stop.
The story has been in front page for like six months already.
Well, we fought against that story by reintroducing our story about the girl who disappeared in Aruba.
Oh, you're right.
Holloway.
That's right.
The Dutch guy.
We're fighting that story with our own material.
We have a sexy chick who's lost.
Damn it.
It's better than your young child.
Exactly.
So, not to mention the fact that children are missing daily.
Yeah, and there's thousands and hundreds of thousands of children starving to death in Africa.
It's like, is this the only child that matters?
Yeah, well, I know it's a funny thing the way they do it.
I remember there was some, actually during this Aruba thing when it first began, there was, I remember some black woman coming, you know, a young mom who lost her girl and had been abducted by, and I think they knew who it was and all the rest of it, but nobody even cared to do the story.
You know, she was a poor woman in Tennessee or something like that, and it wasn't as interesting as some, you know, rich girl in Aruba.
I mean, but it didn't get covered at all.
And she said, you know, I got no attention.
You know, so it's weird the way that you just focus on a few things that get, you know, that get promoted.
It's almost like a PR agent is somewhere in the back room of the news organization.
You know, this is a much better story for, you know, this will get our circulation up.
Oh, that's exactly the way it's happening.
There's no doubt about it.
In fact, today there was a story that came out about the McCann's and there were several experts, of course, you know, new slant on the story saying probably because the McCann's had money and they, you know, a fund was started and people donated money and they got a lot of attention.
For that very reason, the child is probably dead because anyone who abducted the child would have just wanted to get rid of it and be done with the whole situation.
So that's the new slant on the story.
Ah, yeah.
Well, it's.
I mean, there's some logic to that, but I don't think it's necessary that people are going to go from being not murderers to being murderers just because of some news thing.
But I'm sure it gets everybody all enraged.
Yeah, it just enrages me.
I feel really bad for the family, and it really sucks.
But this cannot remain front-page news.
This is dumb.
Yeah, well, I mean, I don't know.
You know, this happened, I think, the real trend.
I'm reminded of the days when I was working for MSNBC on a show that they had established when Microsoft first bought the company.
Or, I mean, first formed the company with NBC. That's what MS stands for.
A lot of people have long since forgotten it means Microsoft.
No, I remember.
I was there.
And so they started this thing up, and then they wanted to do, because Microsoft was involved, they wanted to do some tech stuff.
So they did this show called The Sight.
And the site starred Soledad O'Brien, and she was on the fast track to become a NBC News anchor, and so they gave her this gig so she could, like, do a little practice.
Although eventually she got sidelined by some other ethnic-looking woman and ended up having, I think she went to CNN or something like that.
But Soledad was really one of the nicest people I've ever met.
Hopefully she'll get back on the fast track.
I don't know why they took her off of it, but it happens all the time.
Not to change the subject, but we have a woman here in KPIX who used to be network at CBS named Dana King.
And I saw her when she was doing some of her network stuff, and she had, like, big-time news personality written all over her.
She apparently did something amiss and then they signed her to the local owned and operated affiliate, the KPIX station, as a news anchor here.
It's kind of punishment and she's been stuck here ever since and I don't think she can ever break away.
But she was like, you know, this is, anyway, the show business thing is disconcerting.
But back to the MSNBC story.
So anyway, they had this show that they developed, because Microsoft's pushing them, called The Sight, and it had sold as the anchor.
And I did some work on there, and Leelaport had a segment, and we did some debates, and it's the same, you know, usual suspects.
You guys are such media whores.
You'll do anything.
Well, you know, they were paying us.
Oh, okay.
Unlike prostitutes, they were paying you.
Well, you made a good point.
Anyway, so, yeah, I know, it's like, what's the difference?
So anyway, Diana got killed, as you recall, Princess Diana, and they started covering it 24-7 with pretty meaningless coverage on MSNBC, and their ratings went through the roof.
Through the roof, sure, of course they did, yep.
And so they killed the site, and they killed every other thing that wasn't like celebrity, butt-kissing, whatever you want to call it, kind of programming.
And of course, the place has never recovered, because you can't keep covering Diana forever.
They tried, and they went right back into the dumper that it was in to begin with, and meanwhile they threw out any possible interesting properties that they had started.
Yeah.
Anyway, this kind of decision-making at this kind of level has always been disconcerting to me.
Have you ever read The Society of the Spectacle?
And by the way, just to do a punchline to that last story, we would have covered Diane if they'd let us.
Fuck yeah!
I don't have a ring shot.
Yeah, we would have gotten her ratings way up.
So, no, I didn't read that.
I do have this.
Oh, shit.
It's not working.
Here we go.
There you go.
That's great.
Good morning.
We got a phone call.
You want to hear some feedback?
Because I don't know who the people are this guy is talking about.
Want to listen?
Hello?
Yeah.
Yeah, here we go.
Adam, hey.
Moose in Orangeville, California here.
Just finished listening to No Agenda 4 and fired up TSC 690.
Um...
I want to tell you, man, you and John Dvorak hit it off so perfectly.
It's like you guys have been talking with each other for the last 20, 30 years as a talk radio team.
We have a local team like that that actually simulcasts in the Bay Area on a local radio station, and you guys hit it off Oh,
crap.
I'm sorry, John.
I thought he actually mentioned who he was talking about.
I have no idea.
Well, you know, there's a million teams that work from 6 to 10 a.m.
because, you know, someone's willing to stay awake.
Yeah.
We wouldn't do 6 to 10 a.m.
You know what makes us work together?
Timing.
Sorry.
Indeed.
I got the Nokia N810. Ah, you would.
Oh my goodness.
Disclaimer, by the way, I'm hoping to have Podshow be able to sell these at some beautiful discount, just like our GoDaddy stuff.
But I wouldn't sell it if I didn't really like it.
This thing is fucking amazing.
It's very close to what it has to be.
Why?
Well, I'll tell you why.
Because the web browser really does everything.
And when I mean everything, it's Gmail, including the shortcuts.
It's got a slide-out keyboard, so you can hit the J key.
I'm a big Gmail user.
And Docs works as well, perfectly.
It's fast.
It's hard to explain, but you know how Windows Mobile particularly just feels kind of like a loose bucket of nuts and bolts?
You know, the way the windows pop open and how buttons react and, you know, you just have that.
Yeah, like it was written in fourth.
Yeah, it's a bit like the difference between a Mac and Windows.
There is something in the way the user interface functions that just makes it feel better.
I can't quite explain what it is, but there's something there.
Yeah, well, I know with the Mac it always feels snappier.
Snappier, smoother, a little more sophisticated.
So I was a big user of the N800, and this 810 is literally that kind of difference.
And it also looks nice.
It has kind of an executive sheen to it now.
It's just amazing.
What do they sell for?
It's expensive.
I think it's like $450.
Not cheap at all.
I use burners.
There's Trek phones, Virgin Mobile, those kinds of things.
The things you can throw away.
The things you don't have to worry about losing.
If you leave it on the plane, who cares?
Well, by the way, this isn't a phone.
It's an internet tablet.
There's no phone built into it.
It's just Wi-Fi.
Oh, it's just a...
Yeah, there's no phone at all.
It's just a tablet.
Oh, right, okay.
I've seen pictures.
Right, I think we may have blogged this.
I saw pictures of this thing recently.
Right, right, right, right, right.
It's like a really small tablet.
Mm-hmm.
And it's built on Linux, so it's open source, and you can build whatever you want, and Python runs on it, so interesting people are creating interesting applications that are, of course, open source.
Yeah, it's going to go nowhere.
You get what you pay for.
Well, but they've done a lot, though.
They're seeding a lot of this application development, and the basics...
They'd expect, you know, it has Skype.
It has, as I said, it has the perfect Mozilla-compatible browser.
So, you know, Gmail Reader, another thing that I use a lot.
You can use the full-blown version.
That's pretty hot shit.
I mean, that's really all that I wanted is just to have a real web browser that I can really use anywhere, you know, just slip it in my pocket.
I'm amazed by this.
I'm going to have to get one.
Including Flash.
It does Flash.
So now when you pop open the podshow.com dashboard, the videos will play right in the browser, right on the screen.
So the iPhone doesn't even do that.
I'm going to have to get one.
Is the screen bigger than the iPhone screen?
Hold on.
I have both of them here.
Let me check.
Hold on one second.
Let me just move over to this mic.
Um...
I'm now overlaying one on top of the other.
Oh yeah.
Oh, the screen is probably an inch wider on the 810.
But the iPhone itself isn't that much smaller than the N810. I mean, it would fit right into it, basically.
But the screen real estate on the 810 is definitely bigger.
It's nice.
I'm really well impressed.
I'll have to get a hold of one.
You coming into town next week?
Yeah, actually I'm flying out tomorrow.
Bring the phone.
Of course I'm going to bring it.
It has GPS in it too, which is neat.
Yeah, that's where the black helicopters can track you.
Hey, what's up with the...
Yeah, right.
What's up with Pakistan?
What a mess that place is.
Is it really?
How come the U.S. isn't doing anything?
Is our administration basically keeping this guy in place and agreeing with everything because it's better to know the dictator than not know the dictator?
Well, you know, if you read enough of the documentation over the years of our relationship with Pakistan, we've always given them a lot more money when they had a dictator in than when they had someone elected.
Yeah.
And I don't think that we like the situation because it looks pretty, you know, it looks onerous, but...
I'm sure there's a lot of back-channel grousing going on, and they're trying to, you know, but Musharraf, it looks like he's going to do what he's going to do, and what choice do we have, you know, except Obama?
I mean, we're not going to do that.
No, but it feels like a setup where, you know, there's got to be all kinds of crap going on in Pakistan.
And then, of course, fingers are going to be pointed at Iran, because there'll be all kinds of people crossing in and out of the border, and there'll be all kinds of claims and all kinds of proof and testimony and satellite pictures you watch.
And then we're going to go and bomb Iran's nuclear facility.
Yeah, I know.
That seems to be in the cards.
It seems like the setup, man.
I don't know.
It seems clear to me.
It's so wrong.
It's so fucking wrong.
Well, usually if it's clear to you, Adam, it's not what it is.
The American subterfugions tend to trick you, me too, by the way, and everybody else into thinking one thing and then having something else happen.
Because it seems to me that if everybody can deconstruct it so easily, it's obviously not what's actually taking place.
Well, yes and no, because as a pilot, as an airman, the first thing you learn is...
Look for the big things on the map.
In early training for all people who want to learn how to fly, your instructor will put down a map and say, okay, we're going to go from this point to that point.
Tell me what obstructions are in our path.
Of course, what you do is you look at all the electricity masts and any radio towers and look at the height and see if you're going to be okay.
Invariably, the The instructor then says, well, how about this big fucking mountain you're about to fly right into?
You didn't see that?
And, of course, the most obvious things you don't always see.
So I'm kind of trained to look at big things, and I think that quite the opposite of what you're saying is that these guys and the administration become so bold, it's just easier to do it right out in the open and make up a different story and create a diversion for that.
That's good thinking.
It's possible.
I mean, I'm not saying that's impossible.
I'm just not seeing us bombing Iran, to be honest about it.
So it looks like it's in the cards, but that says to me it's not going to happen.
I don't think they're not doing the build-up the same way they did with these other things.
There's not enough phony baloney information coming out.
I know what you're saying is show some satellite data and all the rest of it, but I think the Iranians are aware of this kind of trickery, and I think they're going to do everything they can to keep getting bombed.
I don't think they particularly want to be bombed.
I mean, it seems to me.
You think?
Damn.
Everyone's really disappointed here in Britain, John, because we've been kicked out of the Euro 2008 football competition.
Why?
Well, because the team sucked.
Well, of course, the manager is why.
He got fired the day after.
But to not qualify and get kicked out this early, it's a real national tragedy.
Everyone's depressed about it.
With all those pro leagues and all those pro players you have in that country, you couldn't put a crummy team together that could just qualify?
Exactly.
And this, of course, is the debate.
It's like, what is Beckham worth?
He came back, he played, I think, second half, and that's exactly it.
It's like American basketball players not getting into the Olympics.
Yep, but they're way overpaid.
So, funny thing about the game...
Tony Henry is, I guess he's an opera singer, an English opera singer.
And he was tasked with singing the national anthems.
The game was here in, I think, Wembley.
And so he sang the Croatian...
Is it the Croatian or Croat?
Croatian?
Croatian anthem.
Croat.
Well, anyway.
No, it'd be the Croatian anthem, it would have to be.
So he made a mistake in the lyrics...
In front of 80,000 people.
So here it is from a BBC report.
He should have sung, Mila cura si planina, which roughly means, You know, my dear, how we love your mountains.
But instead he sang, Mila curi si planina, which can be interpreted as, My dear, my penis is a mountain.
Wow, that's great.
No wonder we lost.
Oh man, idiots.
I always get the feeling somebody's made a change.
I mean, it's almost like the guy, you know, there's always these stories.
In fact, I know it's doable.
People who get, in broadcasting, who get really reliant on the teleprompter.
Oh, yeah.
You can slip in some stuff in there, and they'll just read it, you know, because they're just so used to reading robot-like that they'll just read whatever it is.
And I am an idiot.
I'll be back as the idiot that I am and have, you know, whatever.
You know, I got really good at teleprompter in my MTV years.
I mean, you could literally be writing it by hand underneath.
Because the old teleprompters, they weren't computer screens.
There was a camera that was positioned right over a conveyor belt, and they'd have these scripts that were print out aligned specially for the shot.
And there was a guy.
He would literally turn this little controller and would control the speed of the motor.
So during live broadcast, you know, they would be writing shit in.
There was notes all over the place.
And, you know, whatever showed up, I could just interpret and I could just say it.
It is.
It's like a Vulcan mind trick almost.
yeah It's pretty funny, but the weird thing, I don't want to get into too much inside baseball here for people who don't ever do any of this kind of work, but the weird one is where you have the teleprompter rolling on the one hand, and then you have an IFB in your ear, which is that little squiggly thing you see, and they're yelling at you about some one other thing while you're trying to read, and you have to squeeze in other information.
It gets quite complicated, and you can see when people get flustered on television.
But my all-time favorite screw-up with this sort of situation was one time I was shooting at the Tech TV place.
I don't know why I've got some of these anecdotes today, but I'm on a Tech TV, and I'm doing this show, Silicon Spin, while Leo is doing a show in the other studio.
And we're at the exact same time moment, the same clock, so we're going to go to break at the same time and everything else.
So I start my show, and as soon as I start my show, I'm hearing his show in my ear.
Yeah.
They missed up the studios.
It's loud.
And so he's...
And I'm trying to...
And I'm getting a little...
You know, I'm having enough trouble reading the prompter with this noise in my ear.
And then I finally go to the break.
I said, this is screwed up.
I don't have the control room.
I've got Leo's show.
And they all listen.
There's nothing.
Because they're on the same commercial break we're on.
Right, right, right.
So now there's nothing.
There's no problem.
And so we go right back to the show.
And boom!
There comes Leo again, screaming in my ear.
Oh, yeah.
So...
Yeah, going back to the launch of MSNBC, I was actually there because Microsoft, this was just before they launched Comic Chat, and they couldn't quite get it working and it wouldn't scale, so they hired...
So they hired my company, it was still on-ramp then, to do a chat, and we basically set up a Linux-based command-line chat room with a little web GUI on top of it, so it was pretty robust.
But it was, who was it, who was interviewing Bill Clinton?
Tom, was it Tom Brokaw, I think?
No, that's not right.
Yeah, probably.
Maybe it was, yeah, Tom Brokaw.
And he was interviewing Clinton, and I was sitting in the control room, and I was just amazed at how he could be He was almost moving Clinton through his answer just with his body language because the producer was continuously saying, okay, now you've got to get him to wrap this up and we have one more question.
You have 28 seconds left until break.
And so while Brokaw is communicating through body language with Clinton, then he interjects with one final question with like 17 seconds to go.
And the producer's literally counting it down as he's doing his outro.
Into the break, it was the most astounding thing I've ever seen.
The man was just fucking genius.
That's why you got paid the big bucks.
Yeah, absolutely.
People who are on QVC do it as well.
You watch, because what they're doing there is they're continuously monitoring the sales numbers, and they'll see an item do really well, and then it'll be like, okay, we're going to stay on this, and talk more about the color.
They're continuously giving the host cues in their ear and their IFB, and it's really how they fine-tune their sales.
It's also an amazing process to watch.
Yeah, actually, I've always wanted to see that, but you can see them doing it.
What's amazing is those talking heads that are on those sales channels because they just blabber and blabber, and it's nonstop chat.
Yeah.
Yeah, and it's got a real interesting color because it's an unusual version of taupe, don't you think, Lois?
Yes, there hasn't been a color like that.
I think it reminds me of Fall Fashion 2005, don't you think?
Yeah, exactly.
That brings us back to our story from last week about Marie Osmond, where I wish I had a copy of the...
I don't have it handy.
Anyway, we're talking about...
You asked me if I thought it was possible Marie Osmond might have orchestrated this big blow-up on Larry King, and actually, before that, her fainting on Dancing with the Stars.
And I asked Patricia right after the show.
Wait, wait, wait.
More background here.
I said it was possible.
You said there was no way that that could ever be done.
There's not the way it works, is what you said.
Just to give people background.
Yeah, but then I remember specifically, John, you said, do you think she is capable?
And I paused and I said, I don't think so, but let me ask Patricia.
Right?
Yeah, I guess.
Okay, thank you.
Thank you.
She, without even hesitating for a second, said absolutely.
She is the most cunning woman in show business.
I saw her faint.
She was laying there so pretty.
That was not a normal person fainting.
She doesn't even buy that part.
Yeah, no, I thought the whole thing was a...
But, you know, she never...
I mean, let's face it, these two people both...
I mean, I met Donnie, too, and he's a really nice guy, and I guess she's probably a really nice person, too, but it doesn't mean that they're, you know, that they don't know that you have to be...
Yeah, it's a show business family.
They know all the tricks.
And, you know, they don't overdo it.
I mean, you haven't seen much since.
I mean, they had a little blast and got a few books sold and got her mention on her shopping channel.
And, you know, she's fine.
Yeah, she's good.
She's good.
We got about three, four minutes.
John, you got anything?
No, you know, in fact, I was looking at the blog to see if there's anything that came up in the recent stories that some guys are bringing down.
I did find it interesting.
There was a...
And people can check this out.
It was posted on the 24th, whenever you hear the show, 24th of November.
Let me just read about this.
There's a couple of American cosmologists, you know, guys who study this kind of deep physics, investigating the consequences of the cosmos of quantum theory, the most successful theory, blah, blah, blah.
And they said there's an odd feature...
Of the theory that philosophers and scientists still argue about.
And in a nutshell, the theory suggests that we change things simply by looking at them.
And theorists have puzzled over the implications of this.
So in other words, there's thinking, you know, you're looking at outer space and you're watching something blow up.
You're actually somehow, because of quantum theory, you're changing it somehow.
You're making it happen.
You're making it happen.
Which now makes sense when you go to Oakland and these big black guys you look at and say, what are you looking at?
Because they know that you're screwing with them.
Just by looking at them.
Okay, John.
That's my story.
You better be sticking to it.
We should have a what-are-you-looking-at website.
What are we going to do this week?
Wait, wait.
Let me give you one more story.
I've got to bring this up now that I think about it.
Okay.
Okay.
Now, you've got to go to John Walker's the guy who started AutoCAD, Autodesk, right?
Okay.
And he moved to Switzerland some years ago for whatever reason, and he gave up his American citizenship and he's Swiss.
Okay.
And he has a really weird website that you're going to have to do some research to find.
It's called FornyLab or something like that,.ch.
And there's a theory about some sort of reverse time kinesis, and he has a whole bunch of information about this, which says something.
And I don't know the exact name of the thing because I wasn't prepared, but it goes like this.
If I don't know the college score of a game that just ended, And I meditate long enough that it's a certain score, and then I finally go look up the score, it will be that score.
I will have changed the score in time, in the space-time continuum.
Ah, I'm all for that.
I got some meditating.
I'm looking at it right now.
It's forimilab.ch?
That's it.
But anyway, so I'm thinking when I read this thing about quantum theory and the fact that if you look at something, you change it, I'm thinking, hey, maybe it's possible.
We could do something with the University of California Bears perhaps, but unfortunately I already know the score, so it's too late.
Well, why don't we do something really big and have a mass meditation?
But we have to not know what happened in the first place and make it happen in some funny way.
Read the article that he has posted there on this crazy idea.
And I think it's crackpot, by the way.
For anyone who out there really wants to know how I feel, it's nuts.
But I think it's kind of fun nuts.
Wait a minute.
Where do I find this on this site?
Because I see...
This is his website?
Is that what this is?
Yeah, I think so.
Let's see.
What's it?
Forum Elab Foxtrot Oscar Uniform Romeo Mike India Lima Alpha Bravo Dot Charlie Hotel It's like one of those old school hardcore hacker Unix HTML 1.0 websites.
Yeah, no, this really kind of...
I know exactly what kind of guy this is when I see his site.
Yeah, it's kind of actually the thing itself is pathetic.
Let's see.
I think it would be under either consciousness...
On the left-hand side, he's got this little sidebar.
Yeah.
And it's either under consciousness studies or nanotechnology.
I think that's what it is.
Let me look there first.
Yeah, there it is.
Retro Psychokinesis Project.
We're at the top.
And I'll read this for people out there listening to the show.
Retro-psychokinesis is the claimed ability of certain subjects to alter random data generated but not examined prior to the time the data are presented to the subject.
Crazy, you say?
Well, there's certainly no mechanism in mainstream physics which would permit such an effect, although I think now that this quantum thing might...
Yet experiments conducted by a number of different researchers over the past 20 years suggest compellingly, according to some analysis, that the probability of the results obtained in such experiments, obviously Walker's not a writer, being purely the result of chance is sufficiently low that they would be considered evidence of causal mechanism in most scientific disciplines, blah, blah, blah.
So anyway.
What the hell does that mean, John?
It means that there may be something to it.
I see the probability pipe organ at the bottom of the page.
I'm so down.
I'm going to play the pipes, and we'll compare notes next week.
Well, maybe users out there can check this out and leave a message on your machine again, and we'll put them on the air.
Yeah, let me do the voicemail number.
This will be cool.
This will blow your eardrums out.
Yo, yo.
What the heck was that?
That was the voicemail jingle, dude.
God.
All right, man.
Been fun talking to you, John.
We'll do it again next week.
I'll be in San Francisco, and I think you'll be on the West Coast as well, I hope?
Yeah.
Okay.
From just south of London in the Curry Manor.
I'm Adam Curry.
And I'm John C. Dvorak in California.
All right.
We'll talk to you again next week.
Take care, John.
Bye.
The best and the brightest.
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