The Matt Walsh Show - Ladies, Let Men Have Their Spaces
Aired: 2026-04-16
Duration: 17:43


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[00:00:56]  We recently did a show about how the feminization of society and everything in society is ruining the country, which is obviously a fact, and it has been a catastrophe.
[00:01:06]  Especially the loss of traditionally male spaces and institutions like the Boy Scouts, for example.
[00:01:12]  But as you might expect, not everybody agreed with our take.
[00:01:15]  So we're going to take some time and go through some comments on the subject, see what we come up with.
[00:01:20]  Jay Blum writes I have no problem with girls on my grandson's hockey or soccer team.
[00:01:25]  Just don't establish quotas.
[00:01:26]  If they're good enough to play, fine.
[00:01:28]  I would object if each team was required to have a certain number of girls on the team.
[00:01:32]  Yeah, I still disagree.
[00:01:33]  I mean, at the highest level, sure.
[00:01:35]  I mean, theoretically, Women can play in the NFL.
[00:01:38]  There's no law saying they can't play.
[00:01:40]  They're not banned.
[00:01:41]  They couldn't be.
[00:01:43]  And hey, yeah, if one of these days an actual Wonder Woman, an actual superhuman woman, comes along and has the ability through her own athletic merits to get a spot on an NFL roster, then so be it.
[00:01:58]  That's never going to happen, ever, but fine.
[00:02:03]  At the younger levels, though, I think you do need to maintain the gender segregation.
[00:02:08]  And, uh, yeah, I do.
[00:02:11]  It is also a problem at the youngest ages where all these sports leagues are, um, you know, girls and boys.
[00:02:19]  Because, sure, there are six year old girls who can play soccer about as well as any of the six year old boys can.
[00:02:26]  Because at that age, they're all terrible.
[00:02:28]  Okay.
[00:02:28]  And anyone who's seen six year olds play any sport knows they're all bad and no one knows what the rules are.
[00:02:34]  And it's total mayhem, absolute chaos.
[00:02:38]  No one's, no one's even keeping track of the score anymore in these leagues.
[00:02:42]  And, uh, And, you know, fine.
[00:02:44]  It's like, yeah, girls can do that just as well as boys can, you know, very often.
[00:02:51]  But I still think it's important for boys, even at a young age, perhaps especially at a young age, to have their own spaces, just like it's important for girls.
[00:03:01]  I mean, this idea that like girls and boys have to do everything together, they can't have their own spaces.
[00:03:05]  This is what we're talking about.
[00:03:06]  They can't have their own spaces.
[00:03:09]  There can't be anything that's just for boys.
[00:03:11]  If you, you know, you got a six, seven, eight year old, Boy, your son is that age.
[00:03:17]  What can he do?
[00:03:18]  Like, where can you take him that it's just for boys?
[00:03:21]  And the answer is nowhere.
[00:03:23]  Nothing like that exists anywhere anymore.
[00:03:26]  And is that, can anyone actually argue that's good?
[00:03:30]  Like, no one is saying that every single thing should be segregated by sex, but does that mean that nothing should be ever?
[00:03:38]  That there should not be anything where a boy can go and it's just boys and he has that kind of camaraderie just with boys?
[00:03:48]  Well, that's the situation now.
[00:03:50]  Night Cycle tweeted, says, And when are you going to hold women accountable for it instead of being a trad con simp blaming men?
[00:03:58]  Right wingers are no better than the left when it comes to holding women accountable for the crap going on in society.
[00:04:03]  Mothers and female teachers are the ones doing this.
[00:04:06]  Yeah, this is funny.
[00:04:07]  Of course, I have absolutely no problem blaming women when women deserve the blame.
[00:04:11]  In fact, in the very show this person's responding to, I did that.
[00:04:15]  I repeatedly lay the blame at the feet of feminists and women who can't mind their business and just won't allow men to have their own thing.
[00:04:22]  I do that in the very episode where he accuses me of not doing it.
[00:04:26]  I mean, this is the internet.
[00:04:27]  This is like 80% of my comments.
[00:04:29]  It's just, it's like, why didn't you do this thing that you just did?
[00:04:34]  Why didn't you say the thing that you said in the thing I'm responding to?
[00:04:39]  Now, I don't think that when it comes to the feminization of everything, the blame rests entirely with women.
[00:04:45]  Obviously, it doesn't.
[00:04:46]  It also rests with men who have allowed this to happen and have facilitated it and submitted to it.
[00:04:51]  So there's blame to go around.
[00:04:54]  So, the problem for someone like this guy is yeah, they're noting how men are blamed for things more often than women are, and that's true.
[00:05:08]  But often, for this guy, the solution is well, no, men shouldn't be blamed for anything ever.
[00:05:12]  Everything's about women.
[00:05:15]  And so now men are what?
[00:05:16]  Just helpless, weakling victims?
[00:05:18]  They have no agency whatsoever?
[00:05:23]  The total emasculation of men, you think that's the solution?
[00:05:28]  So, there's blame to go around.
[00:05:29]  I'm not going to hesitate to give women their share.
[00:05:31]  Why would I?
[00:05:32]  You think I'm worried about upsetting feminists?
[00:05:35]  You think I'm worried about that?
[00:05:38]  It's so funny when I hear this from these manosphere guys.
[00:05:41]  Hey, you just don't want to piss off the feminists.
[00:05:44]  Like, what?
[00:05:44]  Son, son, I've been pissing off feminists longer than you've been alive.
[00:05:48]  I don't know how old you are, but sit down, son.
[00:05:51]  Like, pipe down, okay?
[00:05:53]  You have no idea what you're talking about.
[00:05:55]  Oh, you know, Matt Walsh, he doesn't want to upset those feminists.
[00:06:02]  It's just a funny thing about the way things work these days where every group out there, every faction has its own weird narrative.
[00:06:11]  And when it comes to my interaction with them, they have their own weird narrative about me.
[00:06:14]  So I always hear this stuff.
[00:06:16]  Yeah, well, why don't you ever say, fill in the blank?
[00:06:21]  And then the blank is something that I actually say all the time.
[00:06:24]  Invariably, people have these narratives where I avoid subjects that not only do I not actually avoid, but I talk about so constantly that fans of the show are tired of hearing about it.
[00:06:37]  So anyway, thanks for the feedback, though, as stupid as it was.

=== Girl Scout Troop Narratives (11:01) ===

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[00:07:28]  Kismet tweets I'm involved in both Scouting America and Girl Scouts.
[00:07:33]  The Girl Scouts have drifted away from merit based ranks and minimum requirements.
[00:07:37]  Half the badges are training kids towards liberal activism.
[00:07:41]  My kid wants survival skills and camping, so she does a girl only Boy Scout troop.
[00:07:47]  Well, the solution there is to fix Girl Scouts.
[00:07:50]  Right?
[00:07:50]  I mean, you're pointing out a problem with Girl Scouts.
[00:07:52]  The solution is to fix Girl Scouts, not to destroy Boy Scouts.
[00:07:55]  And the fact that there is a girl only Boy Scout troop, I didn't, I didn't, this is how naive I am.
[00:08:00]  I didn't know it was that bad.
[00:08:02]  I didn't know that existed.
[00:08:03]  A girl only, a Boy Scout troop that's only girls?
[00:08:06]  Really?
[00:08:07]  I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
[00:08:10]  That's exactly the problem I'm talking about.
[00:08:14]  But why not form a girl only Girl Scout troop of girls who want to do the things you're talking about?
[00:08:22]  What about that?
[00:08:25]  And by the way, Boy Scouts don't really do much of that sort of thing either.
[00:08:32]  And this was a problem going back to when I was a kid.
[00:08:34]  I joined a Boy Scout troop when I was, I don't remember how old, and I was in it for about a year.
[00:08:40]  We spent nearly the entire year in a church basement doing arts and crafts at the direction of our scout leader, who was someone's grandmother.
[00:08:50]  I remember one of our big events was a cake baking contest.
[00:08:54]  I'm not making that up.
[00:08:57]  One of our big events, we had to bake a cake.
[00:09:00]  And I distinctly remember because all the other boys brought in, and it wasn't just boys, it was girls too, brought in cakes that clearly their parents made.
[00:09:10]  These cakes were way too good.
[00:09:12]  Like, there's no way you made that.
[00:09:14]  And I was the one kid who, like, actually, and this is how it was for me in school in general, where you get these projects, and then every other kid, they go home and their parents just do it for them.
[00:09:23]  And then they come back with the poster board.
[00:09:25]  It's just like beautiful.
[00:09:26]  It's the most beautiful display ever.
[00:09:28]  And I've got this rinky dink thing because I actually had to do it.
[00:09:36]  And anyway, but that's so it's kind of been that way with Boy Scouts for a while.
[00:09:41]  And I know as you get to the older ages, maybe it's a little bit different.
[00:09:44]  But so some of this kind of, some of this is the feminization of Girl Scouts, rather, of Boy Scouts.
[00:09:51]  It's been going on for a while.
[00:09:53]  And at this point, we, for my son, My son, I mentioned before, he loves outdoor wilderness survival, it's his obsession.
[00:10:03]  He's obsessed with it, which is great.
[00:10:07]  And you'd think he'd be a perfect candidate for Boy Scouts.
[00:10:10]  You'd think this is made for him.
[00:10:15]  But it's not because he actually doesn't want to do the thing.
[00:10:18]  He doesn't want to sit for hours in a church basement doing, we're going to do arts and crafts and we're going to play these fun activities, which is so much of what Boy Scouts actually is.
[00:10:27]  He doesn't want to do that.
[00:10:28]  He wants to be out in the woods.
[00:10:30]  That's all he wants to do.
[00:10:31]  And so, what we do is we do, we have him in wilderness.
[00:10:35]  We had to go and find like wilderness survival camps where he goes outside and he camps and he learns how to make fires and he learns how to field dress and he does all that.
[00:10:45]  And now he's way more advanced in those areas than your average Boy Scout his age is, certainly, because that's what he wants to learn.
[00:10:56]  Doesn't want to sit around in an auditorium or a church basement and do busy work.
[00:11:00]  Or make arts and crafts, wants to be in the woods.
[00:11:04]  And if that's all your kid wants, then Boy Scouts really isn't the way to go either because there's surprisingly little of it.
[00:11:12]  And even when they do have some of that stuff, it's still not really like wilderness survival.
[00:11:16]  It's a lot of everyone's sitting around a campfire.
[00:11:20]  It's like you're not actually learning how to survive in the woods.
[00:11:24]  And that's what I think a lot of boys want.
[00:11:26]  And then they're disillusioned by Boy Scouts because they get there and it's like, that's not this at all.
[00:11:32]  With my son, it's like, I want to learn how to go in the woods and survive there in real life.
[00:11:37]  That's what I want to know.
[00:11:40]  Boy Scouts is not going to teach you that.
[00:11:42]  At least not.
[00:11:43]  Maybe when you get up, you know, you get into Eagle Scouts or something, you do, but it takes a while.
[00:11:48]  Flame Column writes This, according to my son, is why ice fishing was invented.
[00:11:52]  Men were desperate to find any opportunity to get away from women and figured out that women don't want to sit in a tent on a frozen lake and stare for hours at a hole in the ice.
[00:12:01]  That's a good theory.
[00:12:03]  The problem is, I don't want to do that either, it turns out.
[00:12:06]  I tried ice fishing.
[00:12:10]  As you know, I love to fish.
[00:12:12]  So, the appeal of fishing in and of itself, I totally get.
[00:12:17]  But ice fishing is terrible.
[00:12:21]  I don't know what I expected, but I went out, I did it one time this past winter.
[00:12:28]  I did it one time, and I don't know what I expected.
[00:12:30]  But it turns out that, yeah, ice fishing is just sitting on the ice and it's really cold because there's ice and you're on a lake, so there's not much of a windbreak.
[00:12:40]  So the wind is gushing or not gushing, blowing.
[00:12:45]  Gusting is what the word I'm searching for.
[00:12:48]  You're just getting right in the face with like 40, you know, 40 mile per hour wind chill.
[00:12:56]  And you're sitting there over this hole in the ice.
[00:13:00]  That's what you do for hours, just sitting there, freezing cold, small hole in the ice, and you're just sitting there staring at it.
[00:13:09]  I don't know.
[00:13:09]  I couldn't get into it.
[00:13:12]  Bullishly Optimistic writes Girl Scout seems like child labor, approximately $800 million in cookie sales each year.
[00:13:19]  Is that real?
[00:13:20]  $800 million?
[00:13:21]  Is that actually true?
[00:13:23]  And maybe 90 cents per $6 box goes to the girls.
[00:13:28]  I don't think I'd let my daughter join.
[00:13:30]  I don't know if it's child labor, but I do know that Girl Scout cookies are massively overrated.
[00:13:35]  We should be honest about that too.
[00:13:37]  And besides, girls should be learning how to make cookies.
[00:13:41]  That's my thing.
[00:13:43]  If you're going to have Girl Scouts, they should learn how to make cookies, not sell them in a box.
[00:13:48]  My 12 year old daughter, Can make cookies that trounce Girl Scout cookies.
[00:13:53]  Okay.
[00:13:55]  It's actually a big problem.
[00:13:57]  It's a huge problem in my life that I have someone in the house who loves to bake desserts, chocolate cookies in particular, and will make them on command at any time.
[00:14:10]  She's so excited about it.
[00:14:11]  I could wake her up at 11 30 at night and say, Hey, you want to make some cookies?
[00:14:16]  And she would, she would bound out of bed to go make them.
[00:14:21]  And it's a problem because I can't control myself when it comes to baked goods.
[00:14:26]  If I'm honest about it, I like to think I have pretty good self control.
[00:14:30]  But when she makes a batch of chocolate chip cookies, I will eat them all if I'm not stopped.
[00:14:38]  It's a problem.
[00:14:39]  I tell my kids very seriously, very somberly, after she makes cookies, I tell them listen, go in that kitchen and each of you eat two.
[00:14:50]  And do it now.
[00:14:52]  You got about three minutes.
[00:14:54]  Because by the time I come in there, I will eat all of the rest of them.
[00:14:59]  It's going to be shameful.
[00:15:00]  It's going to be a shameful display.
[00:15:03]  I will scarf them all down.
[00:15:06]  And my son will say, Well, can't you leave some for us?
[00:15:10]  No, son.
[00:15:11]  I can't.
[00:15:11]  I'm sorry.
[00:15:14]  Go now.
[00:15:14]  Go while you can.
[00:15:16]  Go now.
[00:15:18]  Anyway, so you don't need Girl Scouts for that.
[00:15:20]  You really don't need Girl Scouts at all.
[00:15:24]  The whole concept of scout, that's part of the problem.
[00:15:26]  The whole, like scouting, the concept of it is that it's really a boy thing.
[00:15:32]  And girl scouts only exist just to make things equal and even.
[00:15:38]  That's the only reason it exists.
[00:15:41]  And this is the whole issue that we're discussing they had all these things that were specifically for boys because they appeal to boys, they appeal to the masculine nature of boys, and that's why the thing exists.
[00:15:54]  And then, you know, the feminists came along and said, well, we want the same thing.
[00:16:01]  And then we said, well, but you don't even want that.
[00:16:03]  Like, this is what Boy Scouts, you don't even want that.
[00:16:06]  And then when we look at what Girl Scouts has become, it's clear they don't actually want scouting.
[00:16:11]  They don't really do scouting.
[00:16:12]  And the Boy Scouts don't even do it anymore either because they're trying to appeal to girls, but they don't even do that.
[00:16:19]  And the feminists said, yeah, we don't want it, but we should have it anyway.
[00:16:22]  It's only fair.
[00:16:27]  And no one ever said to the feminists, you know what?
[00:16:29]  Life's not fair.
[00:16:32]  Okay, this is one of the most important messages you can give your kids.
[00:16:36]  So, what I tell my kids all the time it's a cliche.
[00:16:39]  Every parent has said it.
[00:16:40]  Apparently, their parents never did.
[00:16:42]  One of the most important lessons life's not fair.
[00:16:45]  That's why I don't do this with my kids.
[00:16:48]  Once you start playing this game with your kids, where everything has to be equal, oh, they got something, so I should have it too.
[00:16:55]  Oh, he got a piece of cake, and it's a little bit bigger than my piece of cake.
[00:17:00]  In my house, we don't play that game.
[00:17:05]  When one kid comes, oh, well, they got to do that and I didn't.
[00:17:08]  Okay.
[00:17:09]  Yeah.
[00:17:09]  Well, it's not fair.
[00:17:10]  Yeah, probably not.
[00:17:13]  Maybe next time you'll get to do something that they don't do or not.
[00:17:15]  You know, it's just the way it goes.
[00:17:19]  Can I get a little bit more of the cake?
[00:17:20]  No, you can't.
[00:17:20]  You just get a smaller piece of cake this time.
[00:17:22]  That's just the way it is.
[00:17:23]  That's just the way it's going to be.
[00:17:24]  That's the way life is.
[00:17:29]  That should be the lesson.
[00:17:30]  So, in conclusion, Let the boys have their thing.
[00:17:33]  Let men have their spaces, ladies.
[00:17:37]  Just shut up and go away.
[00:17:40]  Just kidding, but not really.
[00:17:43]  Okay, that's it.