Ep. 1716 - We Infiltrated Private Anti-ICE Groups. This Is What We Found
Today on the Matt Walsh Show, who are the left wing radicals showing up all over the country to obstruct, harass, and assault ICE? Where do they come from? How do they organize? Who is funding them? I sent my producers into their groups and their Signal chats to find out the answers. I’ll tell you what we discovered. Also, thanks to IVF a rapidly increasing number of single women are having children in their 40s. Is this a positive development for mankind? And a Chinese dissident says that the population of China might be half of what we’ve been told. In fact, as it turns out, we really don't know the real population of any country, including our own. What does that mean?
Ep. 1716
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Today, the Matt Walsh show, who are the left-wing radicals showing up all over the country to obstruct, harass, and assault ICE?
Where do they come from?
How do they organize?
Who's funding them?
I sent my producers into their groups and their signal chats to find out the answers.
I'll tell you what we discovered.
Also, thanks to IVF, a rapidly increasing number of single women are having children in their 40s.
Is this a positive development for mankind?
And a Chinese dissident says the population of China might be half of what we've been told.
In fact, as it turns out, we really don't know the population of any country, including our own.
What does that mean?
We'll talk about all that and more today on The Matt Walsh Show.
As we watch the rampant harassment and obstruction of ICE officers throughout the country, but particularly in Minnesota, it's become obvious that someone or some entity is organizing and funding many of these leftist agitators.
That's not to say that we should delude ourselves into thinking that there's no grassroots support whatsoever for these anti-ICE riots.
Clearly, millions of Americans unfortunately support the open borders agenda.
They've embraced every tenet of the anti-American ideology that's taught to children in many schools from kindergarten on up.
Can't deny that.
They're causing the chaos that we're seeing voluntarily of their own free will.
Now, at the same time, the scale of these campaigns to obstruct ICE and their effectiveness does not seem to be organic.
Every army needs a general, after all, and that's particularly true when the army mostly consists of overweight, dead-eyed women hooked on SSRIs, along with gay men and 68 IQ Somalis.
So who is the general of the anti-ICE movement exactly?
Now, it'd be cliche to say, well, it's George Soros.
But seriously, is it George Soros?
And whoever it is, what orders is the general giving?
What's the command structure here?
Now, to answer that question, some of my producers spent the last 48 hours joining so-called ICE resistance and ICE watch groups via Facebook, Signal, and other platforms.
Now, in Minnesota, the largest and most visible of these groups is called Defend the 612 or Defend 612, which is a reference, of course, to the area code of Minneapolis.
And a prominent threat on Reddit on anti-ICE activism, Defend the 612, is one of the top recommended groups that you're supposed to join if you want to assist in this criminal movement.
Elected Democrats in Minnesota have also encouraged their constituents to join this group, including the president of the Minneapolis City Council, Watch.
I'm Council President Deliette Payne, and I'm on Lowry in Central.
We just heard that two legal observers were arrested today.
We are seeing increased ICE activity in the neighborhood, and we're asking all of our community members to show up for each other in this moment.
State Senator Dora Clark here, proud to be at Central and Lowry.
We need to.
This is now what we do.
We stand up, we let our neighbors know that we are here.
We are saying no, and we need to be visible enough.
So, if you're wondering what to do, you know, go for walks, make sure you are wearing a whistle.
Elliot's got one.
I'm going to pick mine up now, too.
And we're going to do the work.
Go to defend612.com to find out how you can get involved and stay safe and stay vigilant.
Now, the top council members of Minneapolis are going to do the work, and they want you to do the work too by joining Defend the 612.
So, what is Defend the 612 exactly?
If you pull up a flyer for the group, you'll see that they're committed to interfering with law enforcement operations, which they call abductions.
To put another way, they're committed to committing federal crimes.
Now, we'll put one of these flyers up on the screen right now, which we pulled from Facebook.
Quote, every day, neighbors in Minneapolis are stopping and preventing abductions.
Join us as we protect each other on our blocks, on our streets, on patrol, at schools, and at local hotels that are housing kidnappers.
So, they're bragging about criminal obstruction over at Defend 612.
They're also openly talking about harassing ICE agents in their hotels when they're sleeping.
And on top of all that, it's not a very exclusive group.
Anyone can become a member, as those Minnesota politicians indicated.
And indeed, upon joining Defend 612, my producers were met with a network of signal groups and websites, including a patrol handbook that offers a series of highly detailed instructions.
And what's notable about the handbook is that at various points, it explicitly states that members shouldn't violate federal law.
But in other sections, the handbook clearly instructs members to indeed engage in criminal activity.
So, for example, there's this line from a section encouraging residents to enroll their friends in the resistance.
Quote, if each and every block had a regular schedule of monitors, the abductors would not be able to operate in our city.
Close quote.
Well, why might that be?
Why would a group of legal monitors prevent ICE from conducting operations exactly?
You don't really have to fill in the blanks on that one.
Here's some guidance from a document provided by the same group.
This is the paragraph in gray.
It says, quote, for ICE agents sitting in parked cars or driving around, lay on your horn and honk at them or gather as many people as possible to whistle and yell at them to chase them out.
You can do this and everyone is doing this.
Phillips and Powderhorn, which are neighborhoods in South Minneapolis, do not tolerate masked abductors taking our neighbors.
Form a crowd and be as loud as your commitment is to your people and get them out of here.
Well, then there's this section from the patrol manual, which offers advice for members on how to call 911 on ICE, effectively by lying to the operator so that they send officers and obstruct ICE.
Quote, many 911 operators have been trained not to dispatch police officers if the caller mentions that ICE is involved.
If you want a police response, it is straightforward to describe what is happening to 911 without saying the word ICE or immigration.
For example, there's two armed men in a vehicle.
They're getting ready to hurt or attack someone.
There's an abduction happening right now.
They're taking her and they have guns.
I'm surrounded by three cars.
They're waving guns at me and screaming.
So what this is, effectively, is swatting the ICE officers.
This manual is encouraging members to make up a fictional scenario because what they describe there does not, that does not actually describe any ICE operation ever that's ever been, that's ever been done.
So they're making up a scenario which isn't happening in order to prompt a law enforcement response with the obvious goal of obstructing ICE and potentially, very potentially, getting an ICE officer killed.
Again, all of this is very illegal.
You cannot do any of this.
Everyone involved in producing and disseminating this manual is involved in a criminal conspiracy to commit federal crimes.
And they're very well organized.
Take a look at this section of the handbook.
It reads, quote, ICE encounters.
What to do when you see these things?
Number one, request a plate check in the live call.
Dispatch or plate checker will confirm.
Now you hear that.
And you think dispatch?
What are you talking about?
Dispatch.
Well, yes, these hopeless dweebs have a dispatch system.
So they'll see a car that, in their opinion, might be ICE, and they'll call out the license plate number so that someone at home can compare that license plate to their list of suspected ICE vehicles.
And if it's a match, they'll flood the area and try to chase the car away.
Now, in just a few hours, my producer saw several license plates and car makes and models being listed in this chat along with their current locations, which obviously poses a safety risk to the general public as well as ICE.
We have unhinged leftist vigilantes using unverified Excel spreadsheets full of license plate numbers in order to hunt down and pursue and harass law enforcement.
They even do the same thing with the airplanes flying overhead.
There's a whole signal chat for flight tracking.
Now, to give you an idea of how it works and how insane this is, around midnight this morning, the following urgent message came into the Northeast-Southeast rapid response signal chat.
Quote, Earl Giles employees locked in, ICE agents in parking lot.
That's a reference to a restaurant and distillery in Minneapolis.
Another user responded, numbers description, please.
Then came the reply, all clear at Earl Giles, MPD following up on potential prior ICE activity.
So the employees barricaded themselves inside, thinking ICE was on the way.
That gets circulated around Signal Chat full of these LARPers and their dispatchers.
And then we learned that actually there's no ICE agents around.
The police were called because these freaks thought that there might be ICE agents, which of course, by the way, is not an issue if the restaurant doesn't employ any illegals.
And then a few hours later, another update came in.
The workers at Earl Giles wrote, quote, which of course, my pronunciation was absolutely impeccable.
And according to Google Translate, means that they're grateful that the community alerted them to the potential danger.
And according to common sense, it would imply that ICE needs to, you know, pay another visit to that restaurant, Pronto.
Then there was this remarkable exchange in one of the rapid response groups, quote, highly suspicious activity, very tinted windows, camped outside Porzana, went and parked around the block after idling for a few minutes.
Then somebody replies, I'm at Porzana right now.
And someone else chimes in, sending to Porzana staff now.
Porzana is a steakhouse in Minneapolis.
And apparently these losers called them last night because they saw a car with tinted windows that was just parked nearby.
That's it.
That's the threshold for highly suspicious activity for these lunatics.
They're barricading themselves inside restaurants and running across the city because they see a car with tinted windows idling for a few minutes.
It would be entertaining if these people weren't genuinely, obviously unhinged.
This is mass psychosis.
And again, it's well organized.
In addition to the dispatch system, the leftists are using a procedure called salute to standardize the way that they report ICE activity to the larger group.
As you can see here, a salute is an acronym.
They want their foot soldiers to report with the number of vehicle vehicles and agents, what the agents are doing, where they are, what they're wearing, what time they were seen, and what equipment they have.
And additionally, according to the salute system, anti-ICE foot soldiers are supposed to specify what they want their comrades to do.
Normally, they request mob action.
That's what my producer saw last night, for example.
Take a look at this screenshot.
So the address is provided, and somebody immediately responds, we're eight blocks away, heading there now.
And somebody states at the same time, I'm there, MPD, as someone pulled over.
After a brief bit of panic where they wonder if Minnesota police officers are cooperating with ICE, the communists realize that the situation has nothing to do with immigration enforcement and they disperse.
They go off into the night awaiting their next call, awaiting the bat signal so they can swoop in.
So you can probably tell at this point, this is a common theme.
They spend half their time accomplishing absolutely nothing.
Now, in the rare case where they arrive at a scene that actually involves ICE, these agitators are encouraged to use their whistles as communication devices.
And here's that portion of the manual which translates their whistle language.
So apparently, if they're blowing in short blasts, like pre, pre, pre, then they're saying ICE is nearby or lurking.
But if they're blowing continuously and the pres are longer, then ICE is currently abducting someone.
So as ciphers go, it's not exactly the Enigma machine, but it's pretty close.
By the way, you know you're dealing with criminal geniuses when they need to consult a manual titled, How Whistles Work.
Like, I would have thought that whistles are perhaps the most self-explanatory tool, explanatory tool to ever be invented.
But apparently these masterminds need a how-to manual complete with illustrations, how whistles work, and there's a picture of a whistle in case you don't know what a whistle looks like.
Now, the other thing my producers noticed, unsurprisingly, is that many of these people in these groups took pains to hide their identity.
They frequently changed their names in the signal group.
They warned about how ICE can supposedly hack Bluetooth and Signal and GPS and everything else.
There's a lot of paranoia and delusion in this movement, as well as a clear awareness that they're committing crimes.
And while many of these people are ultimately harmless losers, some of them aren't.
Some of them are nutjobs who actually want to start a much larger conflict.
And they have a chance of succeeding based on what we've seen over the past few days.
That's why it's very important to figure out who is behind this organization, Defend 612 or Defend the 612.
Well, a man living in Minnesota named Mitchell Williamson has done a lot of research on this question, which my producers have verified and which we will go through now.
Here's a top line summary.
So Defend the 612 is a tax-exempt nonprofit that in turn takes a lot of money from other shady nonprofits and even from American taxpayers.
So yes, you are funding the rioting and the obstruction that's going on right now.
And the federal government is allowing this nonprofit to operate without paying taxes, which it shouldn't be allowed to do.
I mean, it shouldn't be allowed to operate at all.
It should be shut down and everybody involved should be in prison.
But let's back up a second.
Till a few days ago, if you wanted to donate to Defend the 612, here's what you would see on their website.
If you look at the top, you'll see the words Cooperation Cannon River.
That's apparently the name of the real nonprofit that's behind Defend the 612.
In effect, based on this fundraising page, we can conclude that Cooperation Cannon River is doing business as Defend the 612.
Okay, so then what is Cooperation Cannon River?
Well, you get a sense that you're not supposed to look into that question because Defend the 612 recently took down their donation page on the website, including any reference to Cooperation Cannon River.
Williamson was the first one to point this out, and I verified it using the Internet Archive.
As recently as December of 2025, Defend the 612 stated on its website that it was the same thing as Cooperation Cannon River, and now they've taken down that webpage.
Now, looking at all this, you know, you start feeling like you're in a real life episode of the chair company, but it's all real.
There's a genuine conspiracy here, and the people behind it are trying to cover their tracks.
So let's take a look at the most recent IRS filing from Cooperation Cannon River, where they're required by law to explain themselves to some extent.
And here's their mission statement.
Quote, the primary mission of Cooperation Cannon Rivers, DBA Corporation Northfield is to create social and environmental justice through grassroots organizing and direct democracy in Minnesota.
We do this in three key ways.
Youth organizing through our program, Young People's Action Coalition, which supports high school and middle school student activists in southern Minnesota in making social change in their schools and communities, worker cooperative support through training and technical assistance for local green worker cooperatives, particularly in the growing sector of compost collection and compost processing, as well as free-range poultry production.
Climate justice organizing through engaging Minnesota climate activists in the movement for renewable energy and to stop the expansion of fossil fuel infrastructure.
We educate and organize communities in opposition to fossil fuel infrastructure expansion while promoting investment in renewable energy in Minnesota.
Okay, well, that's an inspiring mission statement.
It's also not remotely related to what they're currently doing, which is disseminating materials that encourage the residents of Minnesota to commit federal crimes and obstruct ICE agents.
They're not doing compost processing or educating anyone about fossil fuel infrastructure expansion or anything else.
Now, somehow they forgot to tell the IRS all about that.
You know, when they said direct democracy and environmental justice, they forgot to tell the IRS that what they really meant by that was harassing ICE agents and driving them away from crime scenes and swatting them and trying to get them killed.
But things get worse when you look at who exactly has been donating to this nonprofit.
Now, to be clear, we don't know the identities of the vast majority of the donors.
That's the benefit of being a 501c3 nonprofit.
They don't have to disclose exactly who is financing them.
However, if other tax-exempt nonprofits donate to Cooperation Cannon River, aka Defend the 612, then we can discover that information because those nonprofits are required to file a Form 990 where they tell the IRS about their donations.
And that's where it gets interesting because it turns out that in recent years, to give just two examples, Cooperation Cannon River has taken money from the Tides Foundation to the tune of $10,000 and a nonprofit called MN350 to the tune of more than $75,000.
Now, again, my producers pulled the Form 990s after they were flagged by Williamson.
And here's what they look like.
We'll put them up on the screen right now.
So this is the donation from the Tides Foundation to Cooperation Cannon River.
And then here's a donation from MN350 to Cooperation Cannon River.
And when you look at that, what does it tell us?
What does it matter that Defend the 612, one of the lead anti-ICE groups in Minnesota, has been taking money from the Tides Foundation and MN350, whatever that is.
Well, it turns out that the Tides Foundation takes a lot of money from groups like Open Society Foundations, the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, and the Ford Foundation.
And if those names sound familiar, it's because they're some of the biggest donors to left-wing causes in the world.
And Open Society Foundation is George Soros' outfit, which is almost too on the nose.
It's like a right-wing meme at this point to say that Soros is behind everything.
But indeed, as a factual matter, Soros' group funds the Tides Foundation, which funds Cooperation Cannon River, which is otherwise known as Defend the 612, which is currently organizing mass anti-ice activity in Minnesota.
So we say that George Soros is behind everything because when you dig to the bottom of it, you discover that, well, he is.
But that's not even the most extraordinary data point here.
The really amazing contribution to the Cooperation Cannon River group, the $75,000 one, came from MN350.
And no one has any idea what MN350 is, but as Williamson found, it's a nonprofit that takes a lot of money from the state of Minnesota.
In fact, they recently received $100,000 from the state government.
So you see where this is going.
This is how it works.
Taxpayers fund the government of Minnesota.
In turn, the government of Minnesota funds a nondescript, generic nonprofit called MN350, which promises to save the environment or whatever.
And then in turn, MN350 gives a large sum of money to another random nonprofit, which turns out to be a communist front group.
Now, keep in mind, there are probably many, many more donations like this that we don't know about and that we'll probably never know about.
And this is just one nonprofit.
Here's a Facebook post from another group active in Minneapolis at the moment.
It's called GR Rapid Response.
They say they've had more than 4,000 people participate in 81 rapid response groups, which have, quote, tailed and boxed in ICE vehicles.
So they are, again, boxing in an ICE vehicle is a serious crime.
They are openly admitting to committing crimes.
And there are real names attached to many of these posts.
In cases where they use aliases, it shouldn't be hard, in many cases, to get a subpoena.
So this is a national scandal.
It demands an immediate investigation by federal authorities.
Fake nonprofits need to be shut down.
Anyone disseminating pamphlets that encourage people to commit crimes, like the group ICE Watch, which Renee Goode was a member of, should be arrested.
So look at this for just one example.
It's just straight up telling people to pull and push officers away from criminals that they're trying to arrest.
These are the materials that are meant to persuade a low-level foot soldier, you know, the lonely lesbian on SSRIs, to impede or physically attack ICE officers.
And the materials are disseminated by bigger players, including nonprofits that are funded by taxpayers and powerful left-wing organizations.
And then if you zoom out even further, all of this criminal activity is enabled by leftist judges who do everything in their power to undermine the Trump administration.
So that is the very well-oiled machine that underlies Democrat activism.
There's a reason why so many of the judges who have ruled against the Trump administration have names like Maida and Frimpong and Chuckkin and Reyes.
Democrats have installed an army of foreigners to the bench and Democrats are counting on those foreigners to give their foot soldiers some much needed backup, which they are.
That's the only rational explanation for the lawsuit the state of Minnesota just filed against the federal government, essentially asking a court to block the executive branch from carrying out its constitutional responsibility, which is enforcing the law.
This isn't so much a lawsuit as a declaration of Minnesota's secession from the union.
Minnesota's government no longer believes it's governed by the U.S. Constitution or that the federal government has any authority within its borders.
Watch.
And we ask that the courts will end the surge of thousands of DHS agents into Minnesota.
We ask the courts to end the DHS unlawful behavior in our state.
The intimidation, the threats, the violence.
We ask the courts to end the tactics on our places of worship, our schools, our courts, our marketplaces, our hospitals, and even funeral homes.
The deployment of thousands of armed mass DHS agents to Minnesota has done our state serious harm.
This is, in essence, a federal invasion of the Twin Cities and Minnesota, and it must stop.
This is a lawsuit that under our federal system is an obvious farce.
The federal government has the absolute authority to enforce immigration law under Article 1 of the Constitution.
States cannot interfere with that power because of the supremacy clause of the Constitution.
This is not a close question.
It's also not a federal invasion.
It doesn't matter if the residents of Minnesota are offended by immigration law or if ICE gives them the ick.
It doesn't matter if the residents of Minnesota tell ICE that they don't want them there.
It's not their call.
Immigration enforcement is the domain of the federal government.
But there is one element of this lawsuit that I have to admit is extremely entertaining.
Let's put it up on the screen.
Quote, defendants, the federal government, have intentionally violated Minnesota's masking law, which prohibits anyone from concealing their identity by wearing masks in public places.
Wearing a mask in violation of Minnesota law is neither necessary nor proper.
Defendants' policy and practice of wearing masks so that their agents can conceal their identities is arbitrary, capricious, and an abuse of discretion.
Yes, Minnesota, a state where the National Guard under Tim Walz forced private citizens to wear masks during the COVID lockdowns, is now suing the federal government because ICE agents are wearing masks to protect themselves from leftist freaks.
We've come full circle.
And on top of that, in this lawsuit, Minnesota is accusing the federal government of acting in an arbitrary fashion.
Yes, the federal government is supposedly being arbitrary here, not the state of Minnesota.
So it's totally fine for them to require masks, then sue you for wearing a mask without ever changing the law.
That's not arbitrary at all.
I mean, if nothing else, you just have to admire the sheer gall and shamelessness on display here.
We can be fairly sure based on the current makeup of the Supreme Court that this lawsuit won't go anywhere.
But make no mistake about it.
This is why Democrats want to pack the Supreme Court.
They want judges to rubber stamp their efforts to dismantle the federal system that our founders created.
They want to destroy the constitutional order.
That's what these anti-ICE protests are really about.
Now, in Trump's first term, they pretended to care about kids in cages and child separation.
Now they don't even have a pretext.
They're just mad about the fact that laws are being enforced.
That's it.
This is not an anti-ICE movement, really.
It's an anti-American movement.
And it's very well organized and funded.
So what's needed now, which the administration seems to understand, is far more aggressive enforcement action.
Don't just double the number of ICE officers on the street.
Go after the organizers.
Go after anyone who's funding them.
After a certain point, once the checks dry up, the cars are impounded, the agitators are sent to prison, it will end.
Yes, they're well-funded.
They're highly committed to their cause, but they're also very careless.
They don't expect anyone to pursue them, which is why my producers were able to gain access to all of their groups.
It's time to use their narcissism and naivete against them and to begin the crackdown on left-wing terror cells that we've all been waiting for ever since September 10th.
Now let's get to our five headlines.
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Before I get into the other headlines, I should mention that if you hadn't heard already, the great Scott Adams died today.
He, of course, had been diagnosed with cancer a while ago.
He was very open about it in his final months.
And I didn't know Scott personally, so I'll let people who did know him, who were his friends, be the ones to offer the eulogy he deserves.
But I did know Scott's work, as many people did.
And based on that, I can say that he was one of the most insightful, unique, interesting, thoughtful thinkers in the country today.
He was his own man.
He was his own guy.
And especially in a world now of just constant, uninspired, low effort slop, Scott Adams was doing something actually useful and interesting and often quite fascinating.
And he deserves to be remembered for that.
And he will be.
It had impacted a lot of people's lives.
And I think it should also be said, it probably won't be said enough.
And probably that's fair because you want to focus on his life the way he lived, which we should.
But also, I think it should be said that Scott Adams died well.
He lived well and he died well.
Maybe that sounds strange to people these days when you say someone died well.
To our ancestors, that's the kind of thing that would not be strange to say.
But these days we don't think of things that way.
And also the truth is that most people don't die well.
I mean, that's the really dark truth is that most people die sort of begging and pleading and in a state of denial and self-pity or else drugged out of their minds and not knowing what's going on.
I don't judge anyone for that.
I mean, I might die that way too.
I hope not, but it's not the kind of thing that we want to assume.
Scott, though, died with clarity and courage, honesty.
He was not clinging on to some faint hope of recovery.
I mean, obviously he wanted to recover, but if you watched what he was saying publicly towards the end, he was very honest about it.
Like, I'm not going to get better.
This is happening.
I probably have days left to live.
He didn't speak in euphemisms about the situation.
He said flat out, you know, that he's dying.
And he faced it like a man.
And he spent his final days trying to impart his last bits of wisdom to the world.
And I think that was his final service to the world.
And, you know, perhaps certainly one of his most important services.
And I think it's worth pointing that out.
So rest in peace to Scott Adams.
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Well, start the headlines with this.
The post-millennial says a growing number of women in the United States are becoming single mothers by choice in their 40s.
A trend driven by the widespread use of in vitro fertilization, according to NPR, 44% of women in the U.S. today are single.
Many American women spend their 20s and 30s focused on education, their careers.
IVF has become more popular.
Government data show the number of unmarried women in their 40s giving birth has increased by 250% over the past 30 years.
That is actually shocking.
And while some of those women have spouses, many do not.
And then the report goes on, it's worth reading, but this is, you know, becoming a, this is a trend that is only increasing.
And it, you know, this is the kind of story that won't get as much attention as the more dramatic events happening in the world will get.
But this is seismic.
We are engineering.
We are bioengineering a population of old parents.
We're flipping the natural progression of adulthood on its head and creating this kind of top-heavy old population on purpose.
Because for all of human history, until just now, the process was basically the same.
Now, it may have looked a little different depending on the culture, but the process was fundamentally the same, right?
A child becomes an adult, gets married, leaves home.
And for most of human history, it wasn't like leave home and go 500 miles away, but just you might be on the same homestead.
You'll be in the same village, but go and establish yourself.
A young family establishes itself and they build a life together for themselves.
And that's the way it went.
And now we've turned that upside down and where the child becomes an adult, maybe at some point leaves home, focuses on career, focuses on self, focuses on, you know, taking nice vacations, focuses on whatever they want to do for the first like 20 years of adulthood.
And then right at the time when earlier generations were starting to have grandkids, they tried to have their first child.
This would not have even been possible for most of human history.
And now it is, thanks to the combination of birth control, number one, and IVF.
And this is not a better system, obviously.
Like it turns out that our biology, our nature, had it right the first time.
And it never ceases to amaze me that the people who go, and everybody does these days, people go on and on about, right, you want to be organic, you want natural, right?
We don't want chemicals.
We don't want any of these things.
And yet we don't apply that idea to the fundamental way that we organize our lives.
Because the organic and natural system is for people to have children as young adults, start families.
This was the system for thousands of years.
It makes sense.
Nature knows what it's doing, which is another way of saying that God knows what he's doing.
It's better to have children younger because you are younger and healthier and more energetic and more fit.
The younger you have kids, the more kids you can have.
And the longer you'll be around to help raise and guide the generations after your children.
So, you know, you have kids in your early 20s, then you'll have grandkids probably in your 40s, great-grandkids in your 60s and 70s.
You might be around for your great-great-grandkids.
And this is ideal, not just for like sentimental reasons.
The point is that in this system, which again is just the way it worked everywhere on the planet for thousands of years.
So this is why this kind of thing, like we, we're doing, we're making decisions as a society to do, to dramatically change, you know, the way that people live.
We're severing ourselves from these systems that have been set up over thousands of years.
We're coming along and saying, you know what, we're going to do it completely differently.
And there's almost no conversation about it.
There's almost no reflection.
And the point of this system, the way that it used to be, is that now kids are raised and guided by multiple generations.
That's how it's supposed to be.
Again, for most of human history, a child was born to parents who were young, and they were raised by those parents with the help of their parents' parents and the parents of their parents' parents.
They had their parents and then a team of wise elders who were also there, also present, also involved.
And this is clearly the better way.
Clearly, which is why it was the only way everywhere on earth for thousands of years.
So how is it now?
I mean, there's still some people that are operating that way, but as we move toward more in this direction, well, now you'll have kids who are born.
So think about this.
That's the way it was for almost everyone for almost always.
And let's think about this, you know, these women that get single women IVF in their 40s.
Well, now you have kids who are born to single mothers in their 40s through IVF.
So instead of the child having the support of a mom, a dad, uncles, aunts, siblings, grandparents, great-grandparents, and even great-great-grandparents, instead of all of that, now they have the mom who isn't even home because she's at the office, no dad, maybe, probably no siblings, probably not very many aunts and uncles, if any at all,
maybe a grandparent or two who will be very old and will be dead before the child graduates elementary school, probably.
And that's it.
So instead of this vast intergenerational support system, there's just the mom who cares more about her office job than taking care of her kid.
The mom who we're supposed to celebrate because she's a single mom by choice.
So it's really bad.
And it's also why IVF for single women should be banned.
Why do we even allow this?
We don't have to allow that.
Obviously, we should not allow that.
And you can't even do the whole, it's a life, this is my choice excuse because this is a choice that also has an impact on another person, which is the child.
So it shouldn't be allowed.
IVF for people in their 40s should be banned.
I mean, I don't support IVF at all.
I think that none of it should be happening.
But at a minimum, at the very least, it should not be allowed for unmarried women, obviously.
It's kind of a transition into this.
We're talking about, because of course, the other effect of doing things this way, the way that we do it now, is that populations decline, which is all part of the design.
So an interesting clip has gone viral.
It's actually from a podcast a few months ago, I think.
And in the clip, a Chinese dissident, this is the Danny Jones podcast, claims that the population of China is much smaller than the official estimates.
And I don't know, maybe, I guess few people noticed this when this podcast first happened, but now the clip is circulated.
People are talking about it.
Now, the CCP says that their population is about 1.4 billion.
And this woman believes that it's a fraction of that, probably.
Listen.
You are ready for the number?
Yes.
At one point, I projected under 400 million.
What?
500 million.
Under 500 million.
Under 500 million.
So you think that they have a very similar population to the United States and China?
Yes.
Wow.
There's 1 billion people missing.
And this goes back to what we were saying in the beginning or earlier in the podcast with all of the fake IDs and all of this stuff being.
I don't know.
Yeah, there's possibly 1 billion people missing.
It's not a demographic question, Danny.
It's a mathematical question.
Let me ask you.
It takes a couple to have two children to replace themselves, right?
Think about it.
Yes, yes.
If every couple produces two children.
The population distinct level.
Right.
So do you know how many children does every woman needs to have in her lifetime in order to triple its population in 50 years?
To triple its population in 50 years, you need to have what?
Let me guess.
I'm terrible at math.
I'll give you the answer because I ask AI.
It's a crazy mathematical.
If a country needs to triple or grow its population by two and a half times, let's just say two and a half times over a span of 50 years.
Five kids.
Each woman, you're right.
Each woman needs to give birth on average between four and a half to five and a half children.
Wow.
Okay.
Now, China grew its population officially from 1950.
That's when the CCP took over to control.
Okay.
China's population in 1950 was about 500 million.
In the year 2000, 50 years later, China's population was about 1.24, 1.27 billion.
Okay, so it grew two and a half times, right?
From 500 million to 1.27 billion.
That's two and a half times over 50 years.
Chinese women did not have, on average, have five children because of the one-child policy.
Yes.
Because of the great famine, because of the great famine, tens of million people died because of cultural revolution.
So China, you know, from one political movement in another, and then to almost four decades of single-child policy.
So she raises a good point.
How did the population nearly triple in 50 years when during that same time there was famine, not to mention a one-child policy?
It's possible, but what are the chances?
And why should we believe it?
And this is actually a fascinating question and one that we don't really think about or talk about.
We're told that the population of the earth is 8 billion people, right?
That's the number that we're given that everybody uses.
And we get to that figure thanks largely to the enormous populations of countries like China, India, which also supposedly has over a billion people.
But how do we know those numbers are accurate?
And why should we believe they're accurate?
And how could we confirm one way or another?
I think, I believe maybe we talked about this in the past year when it comes to India.
And again, India has supposedly has over a billion people.
How do we know that?
Well, that's what India tells us.
How do they know?
And why should we believe them?
Now, we do have a pretty good idea, as I saw someone point out on X. There's another kind of viral post and response to this.
Pointing out that India's largest cities have a combined population of like 300 million.
But then that means that we're supposed to believe that, you know, the Indian countryside and the Indian wilderness accounts for like 800 to 900 million more.
Seems implausible.
Is it true?
Well, we don't know.
I don't know.
Come to think of it, how do we know how many people are living in Africa?
No one is conducting a relatable, a reliable rather census of most regions of that continent.
Official numbers say that there's like 1.5 billion people in the continent of Africa.
Okay, maybe there is, but how do we know?
What if there were really 500 million?
Would we know?
Like, how would we know?
What if there were 4 billion?
I mean, how would we know?
It could be a third of that or triple.
And how would we know?
I don't think we really would.
And you only know how many people are in a place, obviously, if somebody counts them.
But if nobody is counting them or nobody reliable is counting them, how do we know?
We don't.
And come to think of it, we don't even know the raw population of our own country.
We don't know how many people are here.
Like, we can estimate, and we might be wrong by tens of millions.
Now, we have pretty good census data for the legal population, although even that is questionable for a number of reasons.
We really have no idea about the illegal population.
We don't know how many illegal aliens are here.
They've been telling us it's like 10 or 20 million for the past 30 years.
Obviously, it must have grown since then.
How much?
We don't know.
Are there 30 million illegal aliens here?
Are there 60 million?
Are there 100 million?
We really have no idea.
Think about that.
That's tens of millions of hypothetical additional people who could be here for all we know, or maybe not.
Now, the obvious question is, why would any country lie about their population?
Now, we can see that in a lot of countries, we can see how they just might not know.
Like, they don't have the infrastructure in place to come up with a reliable census.
You would think a country like China would and does, but why would they lie about it if they are?
Well, the answer is even more obvious than the question.
Larger populations are more impressive, more imposing, more intimidating.
You know, a country of one, like when you're a country of 330 million, as we are, give or take, give or take 100 million, the idea of going to war with a country of like 1.5 billion feels like suicide.
So it makes your country feel more powerful and imposing in that way.
Also, countries that receive foreign aid would seem to have an obvious financial incentive to inflate their numbers.
So there are many benefits of being perceived as having a larger population than you actually do.
And meanwhile, the globalists, the anti-human left-wing elitists, they have perhaps the most incentive of all because their narrative is that the world is overpopulated.
And so we have to give them more power, give up more of our humanity to solve the problem of overpopulation.
But what if global population growth is a lot more modest than what they're saying?
Well, that would be highly inconvenient for them.
So I don't know.
This is what we're left with.
The powers that be in these countries and on the global stage have many reasons and really every reason and every ability to lie about population sizes.
They can say basically anything they want, and we'll have no way of factjagging them.
Like China could say they have a population of 2 billion or 400 million.
And either way, as far as I'm concerned and you're concerned, like, okay, maybe no way of knowing.
No way of verifying that.
So does that mean that they're lying?
Not necessarily.
It does mean that they could be, and we should be skeptical of it.
In fact, as I was thinking about this, like, I'm embarrassed because I've been combating the overpopulation myth for a long time, talked about it many times.
And I've always made the argument that actually 8 billion people is not too many because this is what they say.
We have too many people on Earth, whatever that means.
Too many.
And my argument has always been, well, the population can easily sustain all of us.
It could sustain many more, in fact.
You know, there is hunger and starvation on the planet, but not because we're running out of room or running out of resources.
It's because many countries are not allocating or utilizing their resources because these are third world hellholes with no real infrastructure and no order and no governing authorities who are competent.
And that's been my argument.
And somehow it never even occurred to me that like, well, yeah, also maybe there aren't 8 billion.
How do we know that that's even true?
Maybe the real counter to the 8 billion is too many line is, well, we don't have 8 billion in the first place.
So I don't know.
You know, you just kind of take the official population numbers as a given, and maybe there's no reason to do that.
So that's interesting.
Let's see.
A few days ago, there was some controversy in the left-wing fever swamps of the internet when former SNL host Bowen Yang, who is, he's the gay Asian one, who I guess left the show, and he made very, very mildly critical comments about Jasmine Crockett on a podcast.
Very mild.
Basically nothing.
I think he said, along with his co-host or whoever's on the podcast with him, said that it would be a waste of money to donate to Jasmine Crockett's campaign.
That was it.
And there was backlash and they were called racist for the comment somehow.
And they both folded, obviously, like right away.
They just caved and apologized right away.
Within about 12 seconds, they collapsed on the floor begging for forgiveness.
But it's not enough because it never is, of course.
And now the race hustlers on TikTok are taking turns beating their new punching bags.
And I thought that this response was especially funny.
Watch this.
It's always a twink with a gaping rosebud in a microphone that has so much to say.
But since we are being funny, since the Boys Wood Podcast decided to turn a Black woman's Senate run into a punchline, let me return the favor because it's actually insane.
And I'm not talking about quirky insane, not internet cute insane, but structurally violent insane that Matt Rogers and Bo and Yang thought that it was appropriate to sit on a microphone and tell black people or people in general not to financially support a black woman who is running for office, not critique her platform, not challenge her record, not debate her policies, just don't give her money.
That's not comedy.
That's not analysis.
That is material attempting to start a black woman's campaign.
And then y'all wrap it up in this tired, cowardly ass phrase saying that she's too well defined.
Well, baby, she's not too well defined.
What she is, is too unignorable, too competent, and too black in public.
She's too woman while being ambitious, too clear about power and the clarity that scares people who benefit from living in a fog.
Because somehow defined only becomes a problem when the candidate is a black woman or a black person in general.
White men can be as defined as hell, angry, loud, corrupt, incoherent, indicted, and still get called serious contenders.
They can lose five elections and be called building a movement.
They can be mediocre forever and still get donors and headlines and grace.
But a black woman has to be flawless and frictionless and humble and exceptional and non-threatening and brilliant and warm and soft and strategic and silent.
And she's still not going to be viable.
Guess, how dare you?
How dare you say that about a black woman?
How dare you fail to fall down and worship at the feet of a black woman?
How dare you?
This is, we've talked about this before.
This is the great fable of the modern left.
I mean, they have a lot of fables.
It's all, it's all fables all the way down.
This is perhaps the greatest and the most deranged.
It's the fable we hear over and over and over again where black women are somehow criticized and scrutinized more than any other group.
They're held to this impossibly high standard and nothing they do is good enough, even though they're all so smart and beautiful and so wonderful in every imaginable way.
This is what we're told.
Black women are held to the highest standard and a standard which they consistently exceed.
They're held to this, you know, the limbo bar is hot.
Well, I guess in this case, lower, whatever.
Forget about limbo.
The bar is higher for them than it is for anyone else.
And they consistently get over the bar and it's not good enough.
This is what we hear.
This is the great left-wing fable.
And you hear that and it's like, what?
What?
What world are you living in?
What are you talking about?
This constant drumbeat of how black women are treated in society.
No one is criticized this way.
First of all, black women are never criticized.
Black women are basically never criticized.
So not only are they not criticized the most, they're not criticized at all, ever.
Doesn't mean that there aren't criticisms one could make.
It just means that they're never criticized.
Black women are basically never criticized as a group, right?
Like nobody ever singles out black women as a group and condemns or even just criticizes them.
And that's not white men are criticized, obviously, as a group all the time.
White women are criticized as a group.
Even black men are sometimes called out.
They're at least called out by black women sometimes for not being good allies or whatever the hell phrase they would use.
But black women are just never called out.
When have you ever heard that?
So for all these people say, oh, everyone treats black women, really?
Who?
Can you give me an example?
I never hear it.
And again, it's not like there's nothing to criticize here, okay?
It's not like you can't find fodder for criticism.
It's just that they never are.
And even individually, black women are basically the only group on the planet where you can't criticize any single one of them individually in any context for any reason without being called a bigot.
That doesn't apply to anyone else.
Now, sure, if you criticize a black man, depending on who you are, you might get called a racist.
That can happen.
But it's still possible to criticize a black man without being charged with racism theoretically.
But a black woman, I mean, this is what we've seen.
Like, there's so many examples of this.
So many examples of controversies because public figures criticized in very mild terms a woman who happened to be black.
And then they have to apologize for it.
Because any criticism of any black woman ever for any reason is racist and sexist.
Even coming from someone who's not white, doesn't matter.
So black women end up with this like halo around them that really no one else has.
I mean, we've talked about, now I'm starting to rethink.
I'm having a little bit of an existential crisis because I'm starting to rethink.
We've talked many times about the victim hierarchy.
And I've said that, and it changes.
I mean, it does change.
It's very dynamic.
So the victim hierarchy on the left changes.
And you can't expect that the victim hierarchy today will not be what it is 10 years from now.
It's not what it was 10 years ago.
But currently, when I've gone through this and I've given my victim hierarchy 101 lessons, and maybe we'll have to do another one, but I've said that it's like when you go through the rankings to get to the Uber victim who has the most status and is the most unimpeachable and cannot ever be criticized.
I've always thought it's like black women are almost at the top, but then above them is LGBT and then above them is trans.
Above all the other, above LGB is the T.
And that's the way that it's worked.
And I think that there's a reorganizing happening because I actually think that maybe it's black women who are at the very tippy top of the whole thing.
So, and you look at how like Beyonce is treated or Michelle Obama, celebrated as these utterly untouchable, perfect goddesses.
People talk about Michelle Obama, like if she ran for president, she would win.
Why?
What is impressive about her?
There's nothing impressive about this woman at all.
The way people have always talked about Beyonce, one of the great artists of all, oh my gosh, Beyonce.
Who has?
And you watch and you're like, yeah, she's dancing.
It's like, everyone does that.
They can pull up any random pop star and they can do everything this person does.
There's nothing impressive here at all, at all.
And we talked yesterday about Amanda Gorman, flat out embarrassingly bad poet.
Her poetry isn't good enough to win a middle school creative writing contest, and yet she is celebrated as the greatest poet of our time simply because she's a black woman.
No other reason.
That is the only reason.
And no one has it quite that good.
Where you could be so incredibly mediocre and yet be hailed as the greatest.
Whatever your pursuit is, you could be just not even me.
You could be below mediocre and yet be seen as one of the greatest ever to do that particular thing.
And that is a benefit, a privilege that is almost exclusive to black women.
We saw this again over the weekend.
A black actress won an award at the Golden Globes.
And I don't even know who this is.
Who is this?
Tyana or something?
She's definitely not the first black woman to win a Golden Globe at all, not even close.
But watch her acceptance speech.
Listen.
To my brown sisters and little brown girls watching tonight.
Our softness is not a liability.
Our depth is not, that is not too much.
Our light does not need permission to shine.
We belong in every room we walk into.
Our voices matter and our dreams deserve space.
Thank you so much, everybody.
Our softness.
Yeah, you heard that from the other clip, too.
And this is another thing that comes up a lot in the black woman fable is our softness.
We're so meek and mild.
And you hear that and you think, really?
That's not the first word that comes to mind.
Really?
You know, I mean, black women are renowned for being slow to give their opinions and situations.
And, you know, sure.
Okay.
So she's acting like she's the first black woman to ever win an award, treating this like some kind of glass ceiling shattering moment, because this is what happens anytime a black woman achieves anything.
It's treated like it's some kind of historic thing.
And this is a group, again, it's not entirely unique among other victim groups on the left.
There's a measure of this for every victim group, but I think it's the most with the black female victim group.
In particular, where pure unadulterated narcissism is applauded.
She actually says, we belong in every room we walk into.
What?
No, you don't.
There are definitely rooms where you might not belong.
Okay.
If you walk into my living room unannounced, you don't even knock on the door.
You just walk in.
You don't belong there.
Oh, is it because I'm a black woman?
No, it's because you don't live here.
I belong in any room I walk into.
Think about it.
Think about, just think about how I hate always doing the, if the situation is a reverse thing, but you can't help it.
Think about how this would sound if a white guy said this about white men.
Think about how it would sound if a white man got up there.
And it wouldn't be any more ridiculous.
Like if a white man got up there and treated it like a glass ceiling breaking moment.
Of course, that's absurd because like a lot of white men have won these awards, but a lot of black women have too.
So it's not any more ridiculous.
If Timothy Chalamay had won and got up there and said to my white brothers I just and he had a you know, he's like hands are shaking.
He has a he has a message to his to white people that he's written ahead of time and he's reading it to my white brothers to my white brothers out there just know we belong in every room we walk into
That would be seen as the most racist thing ever uttered in human history That would go down alongside like the the militaristic speeches given by Adolf Hitler.
They would put it in that category.
If a white man got up there and said, every white man belongs in every room he walks into.
That would be, they would stone him to death at the Golden Clubs.
They would descend upon him and rip Timothy, they would rip poor Timothy Chalamet literally to shreds.
Limb from limb.
His bloody dismembered corpse would be left on the stage and they would dance around it like wild Indians celebrating.
That's what would happen.
And yet a black woman gets up there and says that and everybody applauds.
Says the most insanely narcissistic nonsense you've ever heard in your life and everyone goes, wow.
Yeah.
A black woman get up there and say, we black women are the greatest people who've ever lived.
We are superior in every way to anyone who has ever lived.
We are better than every single one of you.
All of you should die and only we should be alive because our lives matter more than yours.
And everybody in the crowd, yes, amen.
All the white people in the crowd.
Absolutely.
We are nothing.
We're scum compared to you.
My goddess, my queen.
So anyway, it's a little bit of a little bit of a double standard.
That's all I'm trying to say.
That's all I'm trying to say.
And on that note, I think we'll wrap it up.
We've given Twitter enough to clip today, so we'll just wrap it up there and talk to you tomorrow.
Have a great day.
Godspeed.
What was it like, Merlin, to be alone with God?
Is that who you think I was alone with?
Maradin, I knew your father.
I am yet convinced that he was not of this world.
All men know of the great Taliesi.
You are my father.
The gods should war for my soul.
Princess Garris, savior of our people.
I know what the bull got offered you.
I was offered the same.
And there is a new pirate work in the world.
I've seen it.
A god who sacrifices what he loves for us.
We are each given only one life, singer.
No.
We're given another.
I learned of Yezu the Christ, and I have become his follower.
He's waiting on a murder, and I think you can give him one.
Trust in Yezu.
He is the only hope for men like us.
Fate of Britain never rests in the hands of the Great Light.
Great light.
Great darkness.
Such things mattered to me then.
What matters to you now, Mistress of Lies?
You, nephew.
The sword of a high king.
How many lives must be lost before you accept the power you were born to wield?
Still clinging to the promises of a god who has abandoned you.