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| All right, I've been going through a tough time at home. | |
| I had a difficult moment with my daughter last week. | |
| We were sitting down on the couch. | |
| It's kind of a parenting scare, I guess. | |
| We were sitting down on the couch and she turns me out of the blue and she tells me, my seven-year-old daughter, she tells me that she wants to be a vegetarian. | |
| And now, she didn't know the word, actually, at first. | |
| She said, Daddy, what's that when someone only eats vegetables? | |
| And I said, vegetarian? | |
| And she said, yeah, I'm that. | |
| That's what I want to be. | |
| Of course, I'm thinking to myself, no daughter of mine. | |
| No daughter of mine! | |
| is going to be a vegetarian. | |
| But I, you know, I realized that there were, there were signs leading up to this. | |
| Like, for example, uh, earlier last summer, we were out, I was out fishing with her and she caught like, it was like a bluegill or something. | |
| And, uh, she pulled the hook out and I guess cause some internal bleeding. | |
| It happens through the fish back in catch and release. | |
| And the fish Bob back up to the surface and was just laying there. | |
| Right. | |
| And then she pointed to the fish and said, daddy, why is the fish laying there? | |
| I said, Oh, he's probably, uh, probably sleeping, you know, took a lot out of them. | |
| When you caught him and then it started bleeding and she said, but what's the red, why is it bleeding? | |
| And then I had to admit, well, he's, yeah, you might've killed him. | |
| It's okay though, don't worry. | |
| And she was devastated by that, absolutely devastated. | |
| I think that was the beginning of her animal rights activism. | |
| But anyway, fast forward, she tells me she's a vegetarian and I'm pretty distraught over that because I can't imagine having a vegetarian in the house. | |
| But the next day I'm talking to her again and she tells me that she decided That she's a vegetarian, but she can still eat chicken nuggets. | |
| So she'll make an exception for that. | |
| And the day after that, she said that, well, I'm a vegetarian, but I can eat chicken nuggets, but also, of course, like sausage and bacon with breakfast, I can have that. | |
| And then each successive day, she started adding more meat products onto her vegetarian diet. | |
| Until now, she's just back. | |
| She's a vegetarian who also eats meat. | |
| Which is fine, which is perfectly valid. | |
| That is a self-identity that I can respect. | |
| And her trajectory of vegetarianism, I think, follows a similar trajectory of a lot of people who, you know, | |
| announce themselves to be vegetarian. | |
| You know, one of the small joys of parenthood is just seeing the kinds of names and labels that your kids come up | |
| with for things as they're sort of like making sense of the world. | |
| And that could always be a lot of fun. | |
| It can be fun, but it's also a little terrifying at times. | |
| I had this experience a couple of days ago. | |
| I was at home, we were in the living room at night, and my four-year-old Son, who, he's always got a ton of energy. | |
| He's like a rabid raccoon running around the house at all hours of the day. | |
| Just full of energy. | |
| But this was, it was getting late, it was like eight o'clock, and he had more energy than usual. | |
| And I was trying to figure out what was going on with him. | |
| And then he said to me, he said, hey daddy, guess what? | |
| And I said, what? | |
| They said, uh, I, I found some, I found some wild beans. | |
| I ate some wild beans and they've made me strong and crazy. | |
| That's what he said. | |
| And I thought for a minute, wild beans that you ate that have made you crazy. | |
| What the hell did this kid find and eat? | |
| And I'm racking my brain now, because I'm thinking, was he... Did he find... Did he eat, like, poisoned berries from outside? | |
| Did he... Was he in the medicine cabinet? | |
| This is a four-year-old. | |
| He ate something that he considers a wild bean. | |
| Did he find, like, a crack rock and eat it? | |
| I don't think so. | |
| I don't smoke a lot of crack at the house, so he shouldn't have been able to find that. | |
| But my wife quickly pieced it all together and realized that he had somehow invaded our pantry, and we had a whole bag, I guess, of chocolate-covered raisins, and he had ate the entire bag. | |
| I don't know how he got up there, where he found them. | |
| I didn't even know we had them. | |
| He ate the whole bag, and then he was on a sugar high. | |
| So that was the answer. | |
| It could be with a four-year-old, though. | |
| That could be anything. | |
| Wild beans. | |
| That's just a great... | |
| You know, it's just a great way of looking at chocolate-covered raisins, I suppose. | |
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| One of my favorite things about little kids is the way that they question things. | |
| Well, that could be my favorite thing and also my least favorite thing. | |
| It depends on the questions they're asking and how many times they ask the same question and the context and everything. | |
| The good thing with kids is their minds are always working and they're trying to figure stuff out and you never know what exactly is going on up there until they open their mouths, as my four-year-old did last night while he was sitting on the couch and he turned to me and he asked, pointing to his older brother, he said, Daddy, if me and Luke switched heads, what would happen? | |
| And I said, Well, I mean, you die first of all, so don't, that's the first thing. | |
| And you probably make a heck of a mess in the process. | |
| So, and he kind of goes silent and he thinks about it. | |
| And then I start thinking about it too. | |
| And now I'm, now I'm, now my wheels are turning. | |
| And then I, I asked him, I said, well, okay, what if you did switch heads with him? | |
| Would you now have Luke's body or Luke's head? | |
| Like, would, would, would giving your head to Luke mean that you go with your head? | |
| Or would it be more accurate to say that you remain with your body and now you just have Luke's head? | |
| You see what I'm saying? | |
| Very philosophical question and he processed it for a while and eventually we both agreed that he would probably travel with his head. | |
| But it's an interesting question. | |
| And then later on when I was putting him to bed, and we're still talking about this question of removing heads and everything, great thing to talk about at bedtime, and things are finally clicking, and he goes, wait a second, Daddy, so I'm in my head? | |
| I'm in my bones in my head? | |
| And he starts knocking on his head like he's knocking on the front door, trying to communicate with himself. | |
| And then we started talking about the mind-body problem and neurology and the soul, and it was all very metaphysical after a while. | |
| I say we were talking about that, but it was like I was talking and he was just sitting there not understanding anything I was saying. | |
| But I did make sure to emphasize, putting all that aside, don't actually try to do this. | |
| Please do not try to take your head off. | |
| That's all. | |
| That should be the main point here. | |
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| I was sitting down with my kids at dinner last night and I asked them, | |
| as I always ask them, what did you learn today in their homeschool classes? | |
| [BLANK_AUDIO] | |
| And in the past I've asked them, I would ask them a broader question like, what happened today? | |
| Or, you know, what did you do today? | |
| And I realize with kids, you gotta be more specific because if you ask a broad question, I would always ask, what happened today? | |
| And the answer would always be something like, well, we went outside and we saw something in the yard and we went up to it and it was a squirrel. | |
| He was dead. | |
| And he didn't have eyes. | |
| And I would say, wow, dead squirrel, huh? | |
| What else happened? | |
| Anything? | |
| No, that was it. | |
| Just a dead squirrel. | |
| What did you do with the dead squirrel? | |
| Oh, we played dodgeball with it. | |
| Oh dear God. | |
| Get away from you all, the black plague now. | |
| So I get more specific and now I ask, what did you learn today? | |
| And that can be a fruitful thing. | |
| So I asked that yesterday and my kids told me that they were learning about, one of the things they learned about was persuasion. | |
| And what is persuasion and how do you persuade people, you know, especially in the form of writing? | |
| And they were telling me about that and I said, well, that's great. | |
| So let's try this out. | |
| Can you persuade me of something? | |
| Just try to persuade me of something. | |
| And they couldn't figure out what they should persuade me of. | |
| And then, of course, my wife was there and she chimed in immediately and said, oh, kids, you should persuade daddy to get a dog because we're still doing the dog thing. | |
| And my daughter made an attempt. | |
| And her attempt at persuasion was this, Daddy, I am persuading you! | |
| You are being persuaded! | |
| Get a dog! | |
| Get a dog! | |
| You're persuaded! | |
| And I tried to explain to her, that's not persuasion. | |
| You can't just make your demand louder and louder. | |
| What you're doing here, this is like an exorcism. | |
| The power of Christ compels you. | |
| That's not persuasion. | |
| But then I also realized that That is basically how arguments go on Twitter. | |
| She's ready for her own Twitter account, I think, because that's the way persuasion works. |