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March 23, 2020 - The Matt Walsh Show
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Ep. 450 - When The Cure Is Worse Than The Disease

As the economy teeters on the brink of collapse, and many Americans are already finding themselves having to choose between paying their mortgage or feeding their kids, some government officials are hinting that the shut downs might last many more weeks. President Trump, on the other hand, is suggesting that we should get the economy going again soon. I think Trump is on the right path here. And I'd like to talk about what opening up the economy again could look like, and what steps we might take in order to protect the vulnerable as we get back to our lives. Also, Five Headlines, including Madonna’s insightful video, shot from her bathtub. And in our Daily Cancellation, I cancel yet another media outlet for maybe the most egregious fear mongering headline we’ve yet seen. Check out The Cold War: What We Saw, a new podcast written and presented by Bill Whittle at https://www.dailywire.com/coldwar. In Part 1 we peel back the layers of mystery cloaking the Terror state run by the Kremlin, and watch as America takes its first small steps onto the stage of world leadership. If you like The Matt Walsh Show, become a member TODAY with promo code: WALSH and enjoy the exclusive benefits for 10% off at https://www.dailywire.com/Walsh Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Today on the Matt Wall Show, as the economy teeters on the brink of collapse, and many Americans are already finding that they have to choose between paying their mortgage this month and feeding their kids, some government officials are hinting that the shutdowns could go on for weeks or months longer.
Others, like President Trump, are suggesting that we should get the economy going again soon.
I think Trump is on the right path here, and I'd like to talk about What opening up the economy again could look like, and what steps we might take in order to protect the vulnerable as we get back to our lives, which we need to start doing and soon.
Also, five headlines, including Madonna's very insightful video that she shot from her bathtub.
A lot of people are making fun of it, but I thought it was quite poetic and she offered some great insights into the coronavirus.
We turn to people like Madonna In times like this, and that's why I'm so happy that all these famous people are making all these videos, because I wouldn't know what to think or what to do without the famous people telling me.
And in our daily cancellation, I cancel yet another media outlet for maybe the most egregious, fear-mongering headline we have yet seen throughout this entire ordeal.
All of that on the way.
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By the way, before we get going into the topic at hand here, I have a question for any parents out there.
Tell me if you're experiencing this.
Maybe I just want to make myself feel better.
But maybe we're just extra lazy, my wife and I. But we have basically given up on making sure that our kids get dressed into normal clothes throughout this quarantine.
They haven't left our house.
Except to walk around outside for a week now or more.
So my daughter at this point has worn nothing but pajamas since last Wednesday.
And both of my sons look like they got drunk and raided a party city.
So here's what my younger son was dressed in yesterday.
Let me just show you this.
We've got the T-Rex rain boots, superhero pajama pants, leather jacket.
And like a Native American buckskin shirt and a plastic spoon that he says is his lightsaber.
Actually, his lightsaber.
It is Dark Vader's lightsaber, according to my son.
He can't be convinced otherwise, by the way.
That's how it's pronounced.
That's all it is.
I think he pulls it off, though.
And this is why I get jealous of young kids, that they can wear stuff like that.
I wish I could dress like that.
If I could dress like that and get away with it, and my wife would allow it, I would dress like that every day.
But he pulls it off.
Now I did, just so you know, of course I did tell him that wearing that shirt is cultural appropriation.
And I said cultural appropriation is violence.
To which he responded, oh, okay, and then ran away, humming the Darth Vader theme to himself.
So this is a kid who just is not, frankly, is not very woke.
Anyway, President Donald Trump is now signaling that he wants to end these lockdowns.
And at the conclusion of our 15-day quarantine period, which is up on Friday, I believe, We still don't know exactly what his plan would be, or if he'll still feel this way on Friday, so we don't know exactly.
It's still somewhat vague.
But last night he tweeted, Okay.
The problem, of course, is that Trump doesn't have the power to tell individual governors in other states to end their lockdowns.
we will make a decision as to which way we want to go.
Okay.
Problem, of course, is that Trump doesn't have the power to tell individual governors in other states to end their
lockdowns.
So he could be headed to one hell of a showdown between Trump and state authorities
across the country.
Who knows how that's going to shake out.
Meanwhile, as expected, this tweet from Trump has provoked lots of panicky, overblown responses, as literally every single tweet of his does.
This especially, though.
And people are talking about how Trump is going to kill your grandparents and so on and so forth.
The governor of New York, on the other hand, has implied that his state may remain locked down for months.
He hasn't said that exactly.
No official has said that exactly.
But as this has gone on, you have more and more of them, with the exception of Trump, who seem to be indicating that, yeah, 15 days, probably not that, could be 3 weeks, 4 weeks, 4 months, who knows.
They at least are indicating that the potential of a months-long lockdown of millions of people is a possibility that they're weighing.
It's an option that they're considering.
Now, Cuomo, the governor of New York, also justified over the weekend these draconian measures by saying, even if it saves one life, it will be worth it.
This is reminiscent of what the mayor of Los Angeles said last week, and we talked about, where he was asked directly, what about the economic impact?
What about all the people who are going to be out of a job?
Isn't this too much?
Isn't it not worth the cost?
He said, every life is precious.
That's all I could say.
Every life is precious.
And we'll get back to that in just a second, those responses.
On the economic side, as Yahoo Finance reports, real estate billionaire Tom Barrack said the U.S.
commercial mortgage market is on the brink of collapse and predicted a domino effect of catastrophic economic consequences.
And the Federal Reserve Bank of St.
Louis President James Bullard predicted this weekend that very soon the unemployment rate could hit 30%.
30%.
So, put that in context.
The worst unemployment rate in American history, as far as I'm aware,
was 25%, and that was during the Great Depression.
25%.
25%.
That's the worst ever.
He's talking about worse than the worst ever unemployment rate.
The worst unemployment rate in my lifetime, and probably in your lifetime too, depending on how old you are, was about 10%.
Now, the unemployment rate rarely hits double figures, double digits.
And when it does, already people are starting to freak out.
This would be three times worse than the worst we've ever seen.
And that's where we stand right now.
We've got some government officials hinting that these shutdowns could go on for a long time.
We've got others, well mainly just Trump, indicating that they're coming to an end.
And we've got the economy on the brink of collapse.
Of catastrophe.
Collapse.
Whatever words you want to use.
And that's not being dramatic or panicked.
The collapse of the commercial mortgage market is a catastrophe.
30% unemployment is a catastrophe.
And those two indicators are just the beginning.
They barely scratched the surface.
Think about this.
The state of New York, the city of New York, I should say, is the economic hub, or one of the major, at least, economic hubs of the United States.
If just New York were to shut down on its own, if it were just New York shutting down for weeks at a time, that would send shockwaves.
That alone could be catastrophic.
The restaurant industry employs about 13 million Americans.
If just the restaurant industry were to shut down, the domino effect of that could be catastrophic for the whole economy.
You think about companies like, think about professional sports.
All of the money that they pump into the economy, if just they were to shut down, Again, you would have potentially catastrophic domino effects.
Well, all of this is happening at the same time.
That and much more.
Now, I've said that I'm on board with Trump's 15 days to slow the spread.
That's what we originally told.
I think we can survive 15 days.
I'm not sure what exactly it will prove to have accomplished with respect to the virus.
And that's where I've been saying all along, I have no choice but to leave that to the scientists.
I don't know.
With 15 days of lockdown, what is that really going to do?
Hopefully it'll do something.
Maybe, if I had to guess, maybe it gives our hospitals and medical community and scientists a chance to catch up, basically.
Scientists who are working on treatments and working on a vaccine gives them a little bit of time to catch up.
Maybe that's what this is doing.
And maybe that's a significant thing, worth the cost.
But when I say worth the cost, it's important to note that the cost has already been substantial for a lot of people.
Over the weekend, I asked people to send me their stories.
I solicited this on Twitter.
Asking people who've lost a job or lost income over the last week or two because of these shutdowns to either write a comment or send me a message telling me their situation, what their story is.
And I got hundreds of messages.
I read many of them.
They're pretty harrowing.
And keep in mind, it's been only a week for most people.
Now, I originally planned to share some of these stories on the show, but so many of them include so many personal details about people's situation, their financial situation.
Not that they're giving me their bank account information or something, I just mean, you know, their personal details about their jobs and everything that part of the story.
So, I don't feel comfortable sharing that even if they gave me permission, so I'm not going to do that.
Suffice it to say, from what I'm reading, lots of people are already nearly in a financially dire state.
Small business owners especially can't just drop to zero revenue, even for a week, without there being significant consequences.
Potentially fatal consequences to their business.
We can't, that's not how business works, that's not how the economy works.
You can't put it on pause, cryogenically freeze it, or maybe stuff it in your freezer like a pack of ground beef, and then thaw it again and return to normal like nothing happened.
The economy doesn't work that way, business doesn't work that way.
And many working families are paycheck to paycheck.
If someone's working paycheck to paycheck, living paycheck to paycheck, and you take one paycheck away, It's gonna have a cascading effect in their lives that could be nearly ruinous.
So it seems like if this is over after one week, after one more week, most people, many people, will narrowly avoid the financial brink.
Narrowly.
And not everybody.
I got one message from a woman, just one example, woman, single mother, left an abusive relationship recently, got a job recently, was starting to, you know, She's starting to get into the swing of things at her job, loses her job because it's in the restaurant industry when that shuts down.
Now she's at a shelter with no income, her three kids, and no job.
Lots of stories like that.
That's after one week.
So, what does it look like if things continue for a month?
Two months?
Well, it looks like a disaster.
I mean, it looks like thousands of businesses going under, millions of people out of a job, unable to pay their rent or their mortgage, unable to feed their kids, destitution, desperation on a massive scale.
This, again, is not some sort of dramatic doomsday prophecy.
How do you avoid that?
If the government prevents people from working for weeks and weeks at a time, What's going to happen?
People need money to live.
Now, we'll have more to say about this in just a moment.
And I want to get into the justifications that were being given by government officials, which to me have been very disturbing, especially in the last few days.
The things that are being said have been disturbing to me.
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Governor Cuomo says all of this is worth it if it saves one life.
That's obviously insane.
That logic is insane.
It's the logic of a madman.
If he really believes it, he's a madman.
I don't think he really does.
In fact, given that the abortion clinics are still open, because apparently they are essential, being able to kill your baby during this time is essential, That makes me even more sure that Governor Cuomo doesn't mean it.
If you want to save just one life, shut down the abortion clinics and nothing else, and you've saved millions of lives, not just one.
But, as I said, it disturbs me greatly that the people making these calls are saying things like this.
They aren't giving us science and data and numbers.
They aren't showing us that they've weighed the consequences of economic collapse against the consequences of an uncontrolled outbreak.
They aren't showing that.
If they've done it, they aren't telling us.
If they've run these calculations and taken seriously the effects of an economic collapse, we're getting very little indication of that from the people in power.
Especially from these governors who are shutting everything down.
Instead, they're giving us platitudes, ambiguities.
That's not good enough.
You can't plunge our country into a Great Depression and ruin the lives of millions of people with this as your stated reason.
If it saves one life, it'll be worth it.
Now, as I said last week, I'm not sure exactly what the balance is.
At what point does the potential number of lives saved actually justify a potential Great Depression and millions of destitute people?
I don't know.
I damn sure know, though, it isn't one.
One person isn't going to do it.
And because I don't know where that line is exactly, or when exactly it is crossed, I have to think of it this way.
Let's weigh the worst case scenarios.
The absolute worst case scenarios on both sides.
Because we're hearing a lot of the worst case scenario on the health side, on the disease side of it.
We're getting a lot of that.
We all know what the worst case scenario is because we've been told millions of times now.
Worst case scenario there is, we get the economy going, people get back to their lives, the disease picks up with a vengeance, millions of mostly elderly and sick people die, hospitals are overwhelmed, and many more die because of that.
On the other side though, and this is the part that many of these government officials aren't talking about, On the other side, we shut everything down for many weeks.
Tens of millions of people lose their jobs.
Wide swaths of the population plunged into destitution.
Parents unable to feed their children.
Many die from lack of shelter, lack of food.
Many more die from suicide as they watch their lives unravel before them.
And American society as we know it is finished.
Worst case.
I'm not saying either of those worst cases will happen, but they are the worst cases.
And anybody who advocates for one solution over the other and has not grappled with the worst case outcome of their solution should be ignored.
In my opinion.
Now, it's been troubling that so many people advocating for indefinite lockdowns are not even acknowledging the possibility of a Great Depression, potentially worse than the first Great Depression, and are therefore not grappling with what such a thing would mean and what the human cost would be.
Much of what we get from folks on that side, if you start talking about this, they'll say really stupid things like, all you care about is your 401k and your paycheck.
And your portfolio, I've gotten this a lot, all you care about is your portfolio.
You think working families that are living paycheck to paycheck trying to figure out how to feed their kids, you think they're worried about their portfolio?
You think they have a portfolio?
No.
They need to feed their kids, they need money to do it.
it. A real simple equation here.
So, on my end, as I've thought about this, The conclusion I've come to that I think it's better to risk the former worst case than the latter.
Better to risk the disease killing lots of people, which is a horrible thing.
Again, we're dealing with worst cases here.
But better to risk that than to intentionally destroy our economy and the lives of millions of people in order to maybe prevent the disease from doing that.
I'm not aware of any country ever intentionally plunging itself into a depression in order to avoid a virus or to avoid anything.
As far as I'm aware, no country has ever tried that method before to solve any problem.
I think probably we shouldn't be the first.
Now, you've probably heard this by now, but when weighing these matters, I keep thinking about a lot of people thought about this quote because I've seen it all over the place and I think it's worth if you haven't heard it I think it's worth reading a C.S.
Lewis quote from an essay about living in the atomic age as he did.
So this isn't obviously about a viral pandemic and it's not exactly analogous but there is some comparisons here that can be made.
So here's what he in one of his essays here's what he says.
He says, in one way we think a great deal too much of the atomic bomb.
How are we to live in an atomic age?
I am tempted to reply, why, as you would have lived in the 16th century when the plague visited London almost every year, and as you would have lived in a Viking age when raiders from Scandinavia might land and cut your throat any night, or indeed as you are already living in an age of cancer, an age of syphilis, an age of paralysis, an age of air raids, an age of railway accidents, an age of motor accidents, In other words, do not let us begin by exaggerating the novelty of our situation.
Believe me, dear sir or madam, you and all whom you love were already sentenced to death before the atomic bomb was invented, and quite a high percentage of us were going to die in unpleasant ways.
We had, indeed, one very great advantage over our ancestors—anesthetics.
But we have that still.
It is perfectly ridiculous to go about whimpering and drawing long faces because the scientists have added one more chance of painful and premature death to a world which already bristled with such chances, and in which death itself was not a chance at all, but a certainty.
This is the first point to be made, and the first action to be taken is to pull ourselves together.
If we are all going to be destroyed by an atomic bomb, let that bomb, when it comes, find us doing sensible and human things.
Praying, working, teaching, reading, listening to music, bathing the children, playing tennis, chatting to our friends over a pint and a game of darts.
Not huddled together like frightened sheep and thinking about bombs.
They may break our bodies.
A microbe can do that.
But they need not dominate our minds.
Now, that doesn't mean that I think we should fling open the doors and charge back into our normal daily lives while ignoring the coronavirus and just accepting that people are going to die.
Obviously, that's not what we should do.
Obviously, no matter what you do, you have to try to avoid the worst outcome.
Right now, the government is trying to avoid economic ruin by keeping things locked down and sending us checks.
Well, they haven't sent any checks yet.
They're still debating it.
I think they should send the checks.
But I don't think that plan is sustainable.
So rather than keeping everything locked down indefinitely while taking specific steps to hopefully avoid economic ruination, why not open things up again and take specific steps to hopefully avoid mass casualties from an outbreak?
Why not take it from that direction?
I have an idea of what that might look like and we'll talk about that in just a second.
But first, if you haven't had a chance to see some of our new content called All Access
Live, you should head over to dailywire.com, check it out.
Jeremy Boring and Ben Shapiro kicked it off last week.
Then we all did live streams each day over at dailywire.com.
And we'll continue all of this week as well at 8 p.m.
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All Access Live is a lot more relaxed than our normal programming.
It isn't really a show.
It's less focused on bringing you news and information.
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I'll be doing one, I believe, on Wednesday again, so I'll talk to you then on Wednesday.
Now, how about this for now?
Rather than keeping everything locked down indefinitely, While taking specific steps to hopefully avoid economic ruination.
Why not, again, open things up.
We take specific steps, though, while we're doing that to avoid mass casualties from an outbreak.
Just a brainstorm here.
Tell me what the problem would be with something like this.
A potential plan we could think about.
Number one, open the economy up.
Let young and healthy people work, feed themselves and their families.
2.
Quarantine the nursing homes.
Keep them quarantined.
3.
Tell other, especially at-risk people to remain home for now.
4.
Test aggressively, and if somebody has the virus, quarantine them.
Aggressively.
Now, it seems to me that this plan has a better chance of avoiding devastation from the disease than a shutdown with stimulus checks has of avoiding a depression.
And maybe that's the way we should be thinking about this right now.
There are no perfect answers.
There may not even be any good answers.
But there are answers that can better account for the potential worst-case scenario on the other side.
And here's the good thing.
If we do this, and we get people back to work, then we don't need to keep sending people checks.
I think that people should get at least the one stimulus check to compensate them for what they've lost in the last week or two.
But we don't need to keep doing it.
And if everyone's back at work, then we could be more targeted and we could start thinking about the at-risk.
Let's say there's someone who's even younger and has severe asthma and says, I can't risk it.
I can't go out right now.
Has to stay home.
OK, well, or you might have an older person, an elderly person even.
Who doesn't have a retirement savings, can't live off of Social Security alone, and so depends on their job at Kroger.
They can't go back to work either.
There's going to be lots of people in that boat.
A lot fewer, though, than there are right now, where everybody's at home.
So, in this scenario, we could be more targeted and focus on supporting those people, finding relief for them specifically.
It'd be a lot easier to do, a lot cheaper to do.
And we could be a lot more specific with it.
I certainly don't think that we should go back to work and tell people who can't work still to stay home and say, well, you're on your own, figure it out.
No, no.
We should take care of them.
It'd be a lot easier to do, though, if we're not plunging everybody else into destitution as well.
I have heard one other quick thing, the objection I've heard from people of, well, what about those who have elderly people in the home?
Let's say you're living with an elderly parent.
You go off to work, you come home, you pass it off to them.
What about that?
Well listen, maybe an analogy here.
As I mentioned on the show, probably frequently as I was whining about it, I had the flu a few months ago.
It was the flu, it wasn't the coronavirus.
Tested positive for the flu, pretty severe case of it.
And now, the flu, yes, is not the same as the coronavirus, but the flu is more deadly.
As a fact, much, as far as we know, is much deadlier to kids, especially babies, than is the coronavirus.
And so, you know, when I had the flu, we have a newborn at home.
It's a big problem.
I've got a severe case of the flu.
I've got a newborn, plus three other young kids.
If they get it, especially if the baby gets it, that could be potentially fatal.
And so what did I do?
I quarantined myself up here in this room.
It's like the upper area of our house.
I quarantined myself and I didn't come out for days.
And it was tough.
It was especially tough on my wife, but it was what we had to do.
So, my point is, if parents are already doing that, with respect to the flu, when it comes to their babies and their young kids, considering the flu is, again, deadlier to children than the coronavirus is, parents are already doing that, have been doing that for years.
These are the kind of measures you have to take to make sure babies and your kids don't get the flu.
Well, then why can't a similar thing be done with elderly people and the coronavirus?
Just, you know, already parents, even if they don't have the flu, most parents, if they're responsible, exercise great caution during flu season, especially with their kids when it comes to germs and everything else.
And it's a lot harder to do with kids because you can't convince them to wash, you can't convince a two-year-old to wash his hands or to keep his hands out of his mouth.
You just can't do it.
With older people, you can tell them, wash your hands, don't put your hands in your mouth.
Pretty easy to at least avoid doing that.
So why couldn't we take a step like that?
If you have an elderly person in the home, why can't you do something similar as to what I did to protect my baby when I had the flu?
I mean, you know, I know it's not easy.
There aren't any easy answers here, but there are potentially answers that don't involve destroying the entire economy and plunging millions of people into poverty.
Now, let's move on to headlines.
Five headlines.
Number one, CNN headline says, California's beaches, hiking trails, and parks were packed with people over the weekend despite a state order to shelter in place and avoid close contact with others.
Now this kind of thing, people still going to beaches and parks, has provoked, in keeping with the theme, lots of anger and panicky responses from people saying that these folks on the beach are going to get all of our grandparents killed, etc.
And I'll probably get myself into trouble here with this, but I have to say, and I have to just be honest, I really don't see the problem with going to a beach.
I haven't this whole time.
I don't really understand why people are freaking out about folks going to the beach or going to a park.
I'm not saying to go run out to the beach on my word.
Don't listen to me.
I've already told you that.
But I'm just telling you what my feelings are.
I don't see the issue.
I mean, look at this photo that CNN has provided with their article.
You look at this.
I don't know.
I assume this is a photo from what the beach looked like this weekend.
It's their photo.
Okay, well, it's hard to tell in the background, but at least in the foreground, you see there are little clumps of people, presumably families, and they're pretty nicely spaced.
There appears to be several feet in between all of them.
So let me ask you, what are the chances that somebody contracts the virus on the beach, in the heat, in the sun, when they're sitting on the sand 10 feet or 20 feet away from the nearest other person?
Even if that other person has the virus, and even if they cough, and even if they direct their cough right in your direction, and these are all big ifs, what are the chances even then that you would contract it, 10 feet away, outside, on the beach, in the sun?
I'm not saying it's non-existent.
I'm not saying it's impossible.
I just, what are the chances?
Is it nearly large enough, statistically, to justify even mild concern?
And if you aren't going to get the virus from somebody coughing several feet away outside, then where will you get it?
On the sand?
In the seawater?
Again, I'm not saying it's impossible.
I'm just saying it's... Here's another way of thinking about it.
If I were to call the health department and say that I was on the beach and somebody with the virus coughed five yards away, would they give me a test?
Would they?
Or would they be more likely to laugh me off the phone?
Um So, I don't know I
I mean, I've taken my kids to the park.
Several times.
I admit.
I confess.
I've taken my kids to the park.
We've been outside, walking.
There's not anybody within several feet of us.
I really don't see the issue.
I just don't.
Number two, multiple reports last night say that Harvey Weinstein has tested positive for the coronavirus in prison, which means in the span of about a week, Harvey Weinstein got sentenced to 23 years in prison.
I believe it was 23.
And also then contracted coronavirus.
Not a great week, I have to say.
Of all the weeks a person can have, that's probably not going to be in the top 10 in terms of favorability ratings.
But I've seen people online claiming that this is karma for Harvey Weinstein.
All I have to say is, it's a karma.
Listen, if you orchestrated a whole pandemic just to get Weinstein, then might I suggest, next time, consider being a little bit more surgical in your approach to these matters.
Just a suggestion, far be it from me.
Number three, during the lockdowns, a group of leftist anti-Trump people have been pulling a Robin Hood act, or at least what they think is a Robin Hood act, by stealing from grocery stores and giving the stolen goods to the homeless.
They took a video of themselves doing this, so check this out.
Robin Hood and Little John walking through the forest, laughing back and forth at what the other has to say.
Reminiscing this and that and having such a good time, oodle lolly, oodle lolly, golly what a day.
Never ever thinking there was danger in the water they were drinking, they just guzzled it down.
Never dreaming that a scheming sheriff and his posse was watching them and gathering around.
This just shows how false and cheap the concern for the poor is among these people.
Did you see the floors and countertops in that house?
The house of the thief?
I mean, they look like faux wood and faux granite, but still, that's not a poor person's home.
That's an upper middle class home, the kind of home where you can afford to pay extra for floors and countertops that look more expensive than they are.
So I'm sure my point is that these people could go out and afford to buy some lunches and supplies for the homeless.
Instead, they steal it.
They steal it from a local grocery store where paying customers, working families will now be deprived of those supplies that they need and can't buy because they were stolen.
This is not charity.
This is not generous.
Anybody can do that.
Anyone can go steal.
It's also demeaning and dehumanizing to the homeless people.
You're enlisting unsuspecting homeless people as accomplices in your endeavors.
You're giving them stolen goods without telling them that's what it is.
Do you think the homeless man eating that food knew that it was just down the pants of a thief who stole it from the grocery store?
So throw these people in jail and throw away the key.
That's my feeling of that.
Number four, the New York Health Department has released a guide to having sex in the age of the coronavirus, because this is what we need the government for, of course, to dispense this kind of advice.
And I thought I would read some of this to you, but I really can't, actually, because it is so graphic in the sexual advice they're giving.
To summarize, what they're saying is, because of the coronavirus, you probably don't want to have sex with strangers, you probably want to have sex with, you know, people who are in a close circle to you, and you probably want to just exercise precaution.
So, it seems, what they're saying, is that having sex with random strangers actually isn't healthy or safe.
Turns out that you should, like, I don't know, Maybe even be devoted to, or committed to, maybe even love the person you have sex with.
You might even want to consider being... what's it called?
What's that thing?
Married!
Yeah, maybe that's it.
Then you really don't have to worry about it.
If you're married to your spouse and you're both quarantined, no concern.
Number five, Madonna made some waves, pun intended.
You'll get it when you see the video, and then you'll laugh hysterically at my pun.
Made some waves yesterday with a coronavirus-related video that she posted.
A lot of people are making fun of it.
I think it's insightful, poetic, philosophical, inspiring.
Check it out.
That's the thing about COVID-19.
It doesn't care about how rich you are, how famous you are, how funny you are.
How smart you are.
Where you live.
How old you are.
What amazing stories you can tell.
It's the Great Equalizer.
And what's terrible about it is what's great about it.
What's terrible about it is it's made us all equal in many ways.
And what's wonderful about it is that it's made us all equal in many ways.
Like I used to say at the end of Human Nature every night, we're all in the same boat.
And if the ship goes down, we're all going down together.
Yes, yes, Jarvis.
Please fetch a camera and a harpist.
I'm in the tub covered in rose petals and I have some insights I'd like to share with the common folk.
Yes, please.
Well, listen, I get why she's concerned.
First of all, the disease does especially affect the elderly, so it makes sense that she would be taking it personally.
But you see how desperate these celebrities are for attention.
They're stuck in their homes without paparazzi, without cameras in their face all the time, and it's driving them crazy.
And these are the same people who usually say they don't like all the attention, they don't like the paparazzi.
Well, you put them in a home for a week without it, and look what happens.
They're desperate.
Anything they can do.
So, this is maybe one of the best reasons for stopping the quarantine, because what are these people gonna be doing in a month?
A month from now, I swear, forget about a month, we are three days away from Miley Cyrus performing ritualistic cannibalism on Facebook Live, just for attention.
We are three days away from it, you heard it here first.
Now, we'll get to the daily cancellation before we wrap things up for the day.
Today we'll be canceling MSN for the following headline.
Take a look at this.
Drug touted by Trump to possibly treat virus can kill in just two grams.
Now some background on this, Trump has been talking about a drug called chloroquine,
I think it's how it's pronounced, which could maybe potentially treat the China virus.
And the media has been very angry at Trump for mentioning this positive news.
They don't like him mentioning positive news.
In fact, CNN, which could also be cancelled, but I guess there's always an opportunity to cancel them, so I'll let this one slide.
They accused Trump of, quote, peddling unsubstantiated hope, which really takes cynicism to a new level.
I'm a cynic, and even I've never used that phrase before.
Unsubstantiated hope.
That's not even cynical.
That's like something Spock would say or something that a barely sentient robot.
Your hope is unsubstantiated.
Your hope has a 3.2% probability rating.
Unsubstantiated hope.
We rate your hope unsubstantiated.
So MSN comes with this angle though.
They say two grams could kill you.
Two grams!
That sounds scary, doesn't it?
Sounds scary until you realize that literally any substance you put into your body could be broken down and then categorized as potentially deadly.
So, I'll give you some examples.
All of these headlines are technically true, but obviously misleading.
Tylenol, touted by many to treat headaches, can kill in just 0.3 ounces.
Caffeine, found in products sold by Starbucks and Coca-Cola, can kill in just 2 teaspoons.
Vitamin A found in popular vegetables like carrots can cause dizziness, nausea, and death if taken in the wrong dose.
Think drinking water is a good idea?
14 people have died from consuming too much of it.
And so on.
Now, I don't know anything about this drug that Trump is talking about, but I do know that any substance can kill you if taken in the wrong dosage.
And when it comes particularly to medicines, it doesn't take much of it.
Which is why there's a lot of chemistry involved in figuring out the correct dosage.
But if you don't understand the chemistry, then it's pretty easy to be terrified.
And I don't understand the chemistry, so it's easy to terrify me with this stuff.
So sometimes, I mean, even I'll fall for it when I hear these headlines of, or someone says, oh, did you know that so many different kinds of fruit have arsenic in them?
Arsenic?
Gasp!
Yes, well arsenic occurs naturally in soil and does end up in very small amounts in your apples and your oranges.
That only sounds scary because we don't know chemistry, and because we watch a lot of spy movies where arsenic is used as a poison to kill the bad guys.
Now it is that, it can be a poison, but it's also a chemical element found in lots of stuff.
And it takes lots of it to poison you.
Just like H2O can, well, in fact, water can easily kill you if even a little bit goes in your lungs.
Doesn't take much water in your lungs to kill you.
And even if it goes in the right place, even if it goes down the right tube, and you drink it, even then, if you drink too much, it could kill you.
Now, granted, you'd have to drink a whole hell of a lot of it to suffer water intoxication, but that is a real thing.
People have died from it.
And maybe one day, Maybe, if I'm in the mood, I'll tell you, if you want a good laugh, I'll tell you the story of the time that many years ago when I thought that I had water intoxication because I just read about it for the first time and realized that I've been doing a lot of running in the past week and had been drinking a lot of water and I convinced myself that I had water intoxication and I went to the doctor to ask about it and the doctor laughed in my face.
Literally laughed.
Have you ever been laughed in your face by a doctor?
Has that ever happened to you?
You want to talk about dehumanizing?
There are a few things more embarrassing than that.
To have your doctor laughing at you.
But, yes, he did laugh.
And explained to me that, no, you'd have to drink... I don't know what it is exactly, but you'd have to... It's happened to some people, but you'd have to drink a lot.
A lot, a lot.
Anyway, that's not the point today.
I'm not the cancelled one.
Alright?
MSN is.
For their absurd, fear-mongering headline.
And so that's the end of MSN.
I've just cancelled them.
Alright.
And I suppose we will leave it there.
And hope everyone is hanging in there through these shutdowns.
Hopefully there's some light at the end of the tunnel.
Be safe out there.
God bless and Godspeed.
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